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Happy Thanksgiving you turkeys! Enjoy an interview with the gin-u-wine heirs to the Blackball Ferry legacy, brought to you by Friends Of The Boaty Show. Skip to that at around 26:00, or dig in for your dose of BS silly with an epic Old Boat Ad and Steph's stories from the largest outdoor hot tub park in North America... Spa Nordique! Boaty Show hats are now available at www.theboatyshow.com/merch. We love you and are thankful for you, thanks for listening! Jeff: Hi. If you enjoy the Boaty Show, you may enjoy my new audiobook. It's about AI and how we can live with it. You Teach The Machines: AI on Your Terms. Out wherever you get your audiobooks. By me, Jeff Pennington. [Music] Jeff: Welcome back listeners. I'm Jeff Pennington. I'm joined by my co-host... Steph: Stephanie Weiss. Jeff: Sipping on her coffee. It is Sunday, still morning. We, uh, we both have fires going. Mine's downstairs, Steph's is right in front of her in her living room. We're remote, and it's been a minute. We're not gonna talk about that. We're just gonna jump right back in. Right? Steph: Yeah, let's jump right in. Jeff: Jump right in. Like it's summer and we're going swimming again. Steph: Exactly. Exactly. Jeff: We have, uh, we have a show today. We're gonna do a segment on the Puget Sound ferry system—the history of. And we're gonna do, uh... what do we got? We got a "Old Boat Ad" from Jay. He was touring down in, uh, Whatchamacallit, Florida? Sarasota. He sent a picture of an alligator, which I will contend is Boaty. Steph: You want my opinion on that? Jeff: I want your opinion on that. Steph: I mean, it does... it does get from one place to the other. I don't know if they do that without getting wet, but yeah. I admit, boat adjacent. If you've seen an alligator, you wish you were in a boat. I mean, I can think of many ways that alligator is Boaty. Yes. Jeff: That was... that was excellent commentary. Thank you very much. Steph: You're welcome. Jeff: Wait, when you were down there last winter for the fundraising visit and you found that waterfront, that waterfront bar that served like drinks in buckets or something? Were there any alligators around then? Steph: Yeah. Well, yes. We were told there were alligators around, but I didn't see an alligator. But I did see lots and lots of signs about the alligators. Remember the signs? Jeff: In particular that it was alligator mating season. Steph: That's what it was! Yes. "Do not approach the mating alligator" or something super weird like that. Like... yes. That's right. Jeff: And then we did a whole... we did a whole, I mean we might have had a series of bits on alligator mating. And why you weren't supposed to go in the water when they were mating? Was it because it was gross? Because it's like, you know, it's the water that they're mating in and what's all that about? Or because you don't want like the throes of alligator mating ecstasy to like, end up with you getting like, you know, I don't know. Maybe they like bite each other in the midst of all that and you don't want to get confused... like get a body part confused. Steph: Right. Is there more traditional aggression? Right. Are they more aggressive when they're mating? These are questions. And then we had—I think we ended up really wondering whether that was a deep water thing or just a shoreline thing. Like if you're out in the middle, do you have to worry about that? Remember? We had this... this was a whole conversation. Jeff: I think... but I do think that it's ridiculous because... because like, if you see alligators whether they're mating or not, could we all just assume you don't go in the water? I just seems unnecessary, but... Jeff: And we'll count that as the only answer worth taking away because I only recall the questions we had at the time. Uh, and I don't recall any resolution of any of this. So, um, interesting though that Jay... winter-ish, maybe mating season or not. It looked like the picture was a solo... solo alligator. It was just, just an alligator. Unless maybe it was an alligator couple and you couldn't see the other alligator because that alligator was underwater? Steph: Like... that just occurred to me when you said... great minds think alike. Jeff: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Steph: We should ask Jay. Jeff: We should ask Jay what was going on. Steph: Or not so great minds think alike. Jeff: All right. All right. So I think we should lead off with, uh, since we're talking about Jay and his trip through Florida—he played at least one show down there, I saw a picture of a backyard concert, looked lovely. Or an outdoor concert I shouldn't say, I don't know if it was backyard or not, looked lovely. And, uh, he sent a boat ad. And since this is his favorite segment, we're gonna do it. Steph: Mmm. Do it. [Music: Old Boat Ad Jingle] Jeff: It's... I can't... It's been so long that we've done this that when we were in the middle of doing it all the time, it seemed completely normal. And now when we're like... we're like four months away from doing it regularly or whatever, and it's like holy [bleep]. What the hell is this? That was a song about old boat ad copy from Jay and that was like... like, you know, I don't know, six months ago I was like, "Well yeah, of course Jay's gonna make a song saying 'Come on Jeff read those vintage boaty advertisements, give us some of them old boat ads.'" And that was like in the midst of it, it was like "Yeah fine." And now it's like, what the [bleep] is this? Oh my god! Steph: And people want... people are like, "Hey man when are you gonna start making that show again?" 'Cause they want this nonsense! Jeff: Oh god. That makes me so happy. It's good to be weird. Steph: It's good to be weird. Jeff: Okay. All that aside, notwithstanding. Let's do it. Okay. Jay found this ad in the wild. I don't know where it was. Um, I'm looking at the picture. It looks like it's in a frame. Maybe it was in like... I'm gonna say it was in a bathroom at a bar that he was at, or a restaurant perhaps, and it was above the urinal and he saw this. It was right in front of his face. "You can't blame a guy for boasting about his new Mercury. Not only pride of possession, but downright satisfaction comes with the ownership of a new Mercury Outboard Motor. When you put a Mercury on a boat, you are completely confident of quick, easy starting and effortless 'hold the course' steering. You know that there will be instant response to every touch of the throttle. Whether you want a burst of flashing speed or just a ripple of hushed power for the slowest possible trolling. The new Mercury with 'Full Jeweled Powerhead'—bears repeating—Full Jeweled, yes like bling bling jewels, Full Jeweled Powerhead gives you greater all-around mechanical efficiency and endurance never before known in an outboard motor. Yes, with your Mercury, you'll experience that pride of possession realized only by those who own the finest." Scrolling down through the ad... that was the main copy presented next to uh, a lovely couple in a, looks like a Penn Yan outboard skiff uh, with an outboard obviously on the back. Um, she of course is reclining. He of course is driving. Um, and he's holding his hand out like, "Ah! Oh my god this is great!" Like out to the side like, "Can you believe it?" "Of course, of course this is great." Um, he doesn't look so polished, he's kind of look got... he's got some bedhead and a t-shirt on. She looks put together. Um, so he must have a great personality. Steph: [Laughs] Jeff: So scrolling down there's like more details. Um, mostly for him because there's like cutaway diagrams and whatnot. So: "The Rocket. A six horsepower precision-built alternate firing twin with sparkling power that will plane a boat beautifully. Yet throttle down for... oh, yet throttle down to a hush for continuous trolling. Another exclusive Mercury first." This is more on the Full Jeweled Powerhead. "Mercury's Full Jeweled Powerhead. Mercury engineers have developed a method of using roller bearings on wrist pins, crank pins, and crank shaft. It results in reduction of mechanical friction, new power and smoothness, readier response to the throttle, many more months of service-free operation than any outboard with conventional plain bearings." "The Comet. A smooth running 3.2 horsepower single. The ideal family outboard. Just right for your car-top boat or the average rental boat. Mercury. Own a Mercury. Matchless and outboard excellence. Kiekhaefer Corporation, Cedarburg, Wisconsin. Outboard Motors. Portable Industrial Engines." There you go. Old Boat Ad. Steph: I have a lot of questions. And an observation. Jeff: Go. Steph: I love how the masthead of this ad if you will—I don't know if that's the right word for it—but it's a... it's a bubble, it's a like a word bubble coming from the guy in the boat, right? "You can't blame a guy for boasting about his new Mercury." I love like the... I love all of the like the um... how proud you should be. Like there's a lot of like, you know, you just... you're just going to boast and it's going to be like everyone's going to be impressed with you. There's going to be "Pride of Possession." Which I think is very interesting. And then what is going on with the jewels? I don't understand the jewels and why are we talking about jewels? There's no jewels in this. Jeff: There's roller bearings. Steph: What is that? And how is it like a jewel? Is it a ruby? Jeff: Well, my guess is given that this is setting the guy up to boast, if it was made out of ruby it would have said that, right? But I can say... Steph: I agree. Jeff: I can say that I don't know whether it's jeweled or made out of a jewel or not. But uh, different... there's different kinds of bearings. I know a little bit about bearings. Not a lot. Steph: Didn't we talk about bearings once before? Jeff: I'm sure we did. I'm sure we did. Steph: I like this sentence... I like this sentence a lot. "The Mercury engineers have developed a method of using roller bearings on wrist pins, crank pins, and crank shaft." What? Jeff: Uh, I don't know what a wrist pin is. I don't know what a crank... was it a wrist pin and a crank pin? Steph: Wrist pins and crank pins. Yeah. Things I didn't know about. But I love... I also love that they're getting into this level of detail right in the ad. This is the good old days. You know what I mean? Like this is... this is the least reductive ad I've ever seen. They're really... they're just... they hit you a little bit with the ego in the top and then they get right into the deep, deep details. I think this is lovely. It was... it was lovely to listen to. Jeff: So you got... I don't know what those pins are. The crank... I don't know. Let's not talk about why you've got bearings or what they're on, but ball bearings are balls. And... Steph: [Laughs silently] Jeff: ...you're laughing silently with our... Steph: Wrist bearings are wrists? Crank pins are cranks? I don't know. Jeff: No. We're not gonna talk about that stuff. We're just gonna talk about the bearings. So you got ball bearings which are spherical, okay? And then you've got roller bearings which are like a... in my mind it's a bearing that's made of a... it looks like a rolling pin, okay? And a ball bearing can... can bear weight while moving in all directions because it's a sphere. Steph: 360. Jeff: Yup. 360 times 360, right? In any direction. And then a roller bearing can bear... bear weight while moving just in like one direction back and forth. One plane I guess. And uh, I know roller bearings because there are conical roller bearings on boat trailers in the hubs of the boat trailer. Um, because the... and they're almost like a rolling pin shape except they're flared a little bit at, you know, toward one end so it's like a slight cone shape. And that's because the axle on your boat trailer has a slight taper to it. And so the wheel spinning on those bearings on that slightly tapered axle shaft has to be slightly... has to match that taper as it spins around and around and around. Um, now, that being said, going from, you know, roller bearings to "jeweled"? That's... that's what I'm talking about right there. Yup. Steph: Full Jeweled. Yeah. I mean I don't know. I guess... you know how I feel about this stuff. I kind of love things that I don't understand and there's a lot here I don't understand. And I think this is a lovely... so we've got two en... Is the Rocket one and the Comet is the other? They have space names. Amazing. Jeff: Yeah. And this was before... this might have been early space era. Yeah. Steph: Yeah. Early space race. Jeff: It look... I like that it's like, it's just a little boat. Nothing fancy. It's just a little tin can. Steph: Yeah. Rockin' out. Or having a great time. They're all proud... proud of themselves. Jeff: They mentioned "Car Top Boats" which was a... that was a big deal in the expansion of boating into the middle class. And... yeah. So Penn Yan, the boat manufacturer, my understanding is they hit it big for the first time with car-top boats. So Penn Yan Car Toppers, you'll still see those around sometimes. And that was like what pontoon boats and jet skis are doing... they did for boating then what pontoon boats and jet skis are doing now. Which is just making it way more accessible. Steph: I hear you. Jeff: Yeah. Steph: I hear you. "There it is. Just right for your car-top boat or the average rental boat." Got it. Yeah. Jeff: Yeah. Give me... give me more opportunity to get in the water without having to be a rich guy with my own dock or a yacht or anything like that. Steph: Mm-hm. Equal opportunity boating. Jeff: E... E... E-O-B. E-O-B-B. Equal Opportunity Boating Board. Okay. Enough of that. Steph: Yes. That's a... that's a worthy goal. Jeff: All right. We're gonna move on to our... our next topic. Which, you know what? Let's... let's step back. What have you been doing lately? Steph: Mmm. That's a great question. Um... Jeff: Have you gone anywhere? Have you gone anywhere fun? Steph: I did. I went to the... I went to the Spa Nordique in... in Chelsea, Quebec. Yes. I did do that. I was... show before the show we were chatting about this. Yes. I did go there with my friend Julie, my personal historian. And we had a wonderful time. Jeff: What is the Spa Nordique? Tell us... You walk up to the Spa Nordique. What's the experience? Steph: Okay. So real... so real quick. It's like... it's not like a spa like people usually think of a spa. It's a "thermal experience." It's got this whole Nordic vibe to it. Everything's made of wood. And it's a very large... it's many acres. And it has tons of different ways to get warm and cold in water. And also not in water. So, for example, there's like ten different outdoor hot tubs scattered all over the place. And there's like fifteen different kinds of saunas. There's like a earth sauna and a barrel sauna and a Russian sauna and a whatever. There's like... And then there's um, also like steam rooms. And there's cold plunges, which is not for me, but for other people. And there's places to eat and drink. And that's it. And you put on a robe, you leave your phone and all your [bleep] behind and you just wander around in this environment for the day. It's very affordable. Like sixty bucks for the whole day, like US. And it is very beautiful and it's very calming. And very relaxing. And it's delightful. And I would recommend it to everybody. So I've been there probably four or five times. And um, it's close, you know it's like two hours away from here. It's not far. And I think it's the largest spa in North America. But it's not like busy feeling. It's very calming and relaxing. Jeff: We're gonna... we're gonna back up to the very... one of the first two... two of the first words you said which was "thermal experience." Steph: Yeah. That's what they call it. Um... yeah, I don't know. I guess you're just getting in warm water. And then you're supposed to get in cold water cause it's good for you, but like I said, that's just not for me. But um... but you know like, it's like good for you. I don't know. You're supposed to like steam yourself and then get... We were... it was like snowing when we were there. There was actually a hail storm that happened. Like a full-on hail storm um, when we were sitting in one of the hot... my favorite hot tub which is like a hot spring kind of a thing. It's up at the top. And um, they totally just started hailing. And it looks like... like accumulating in our hair. It was very exciting. Jeff: Thankfully... thankfully accumulating in your hair and not like... they were baseball sized and like braining you and knocking you out. Steph: Right. No, they were not baseball sized. Which is good news. They were small and they were accumulating and it was very snow monkey. The whole experience is like just being a snow monkey for the day. That's it. That's how... Jeff: Can you make this up? Thermal experience. Be a snow mon... have a... have a thermal expe... we're gonna have to write an ad for this. Have a thermal experience as a... be a snow monkey for the day. Steph: I don't know why that's not their tagline. For... I don't know why not. It makes no sense. Jeff: So the other thing that grabbed me about... about this is you said you leave your phone behind. Which I think is probably healthy because that means that um, people aren't like nervous about somebody taking a picture of them when they, you know, take their robe off and get in the... in the tub or whatever. But also, dude, anything that people do where they leave their phones behind... those are becoming more and more valuable experiences as people just come to the conclusion that their phone makes them sick. And I had this experience recently... did... did an um... one of my book events at uh, the Poor Sethi headquarters in Brooklyn. In Gowanus. Uh, the Gowanus neighborhood of Brooklyn. And afterward, my... my daughter Mary Jane was there uh, and it was the first time she'd come to see one of these... these talks. The book talks. And uh, she brought a few of her friends who had moved to New York after graduating... they all graduated last spring. And they were so psyched. They're like, "Oh my god. Why does it feel so... so like novel to get together in person in a room and talk about something and talk to... with each other?" Because it was a... it ended up being a really interactive session. People were going back and forth to each other. And I started to fade a bit into the background which is what I go for with these... these events. They're kind of like group therapy community workshops about, you know, AI in your life. Not so much what AI is, but like how AI merges into your life. Anyway, at Spa Nordique, it's a thermal experience minus your phone. And you're there for the day or most of the day because you want to get... you want to get as much thermal experience as you can for your sixty dollars. So that's a day without your phone. That's freaking awesome. Steph: Yeah. And when I fir... when we first started going a few years ago, it was pretty much like "Don't bring your phone in here." Like it was like a kind of a rule. Now it's like um, you're allowed to bring your phone, but most people don't. So every now and then there'll be somebody with a phone. But the other funny thing is that... that you know, it's an adjustment going... like you said, you go for the whole day because it's... it's big, there's you know places to stop in and have a bite to eat or get a beverage or whatever. So you really do stay there for a while and you do really disengage from the sense of time. And it's funny how many times you're like, you know, think of things that normally you'd be looking up to your phone but you just don't do it cause you can't. But my... but one funny... one funny thing that happened when we got there was... um... when you first walk in on the left there's this very cool like... like experience. Like it's like a... like they do a Boreal Forest experience and they like um, they like wave branches around and like whatever. So that happens at certain times. So do we really want to do it? Because afterwards you were like rub salts all over your body and then there's like a flash dance bucket that you dump on yourself... you really... you have to be... obviously you need to get involved in something like that. So we were looking at the times. And then we were like... and like Julie and I together are like we're always like a little on the spazzy side anyway. Like it's always... things are always just awkward and weird and great. And like... so we were like, "Okay. So we can come back at one at eleven? Or maybe..." And then it's in like... it's like Canadian time so it's like 1300 and 1500 and we don't know what that means. It's complicated. So it's just... it was so hard. We were like talking about it and... and then this... and we were like, "How are we gonna come back? How are we gonna know when to come back because we don't have phones?" And then um, so then a nice young man who worked at the spa went by and we asked him... The other thing is just constant like language situation going on about wheth... you know we don't speak French. Everybody else does. So you know... and they're very sweet about it. But you know you always have to navigate the fact that you're speaking English. And so we in English ask this nice young man what time it is. And he paused. And I thought maybe it was just because he had to switch into English in his brain. I don't know why. But and he looked at us. And he was like, "Well, right now it's blah blah blah o'clock," and he like explained what time it was and um, the fact that it would be this time in an hour and a half we could come back and the thing would do it again. And then he kind of like looked at us and we were like, "Okay great thank you." And we left. But then later when we came back to actually do the experience, I... we were sitting in the sauna and I looked out and there is a clock so big. Like so big. It's hu... it's huge. It's like... it's like seven feet across. And it was right behind... right behind us when we had asked the guy what time it was! And we realized that like the long pause was like, "Should I just tell them that there's a clock right there? Or should I just be really nice about this and just answer the question and not point out the clock?" Like for sure he was like... are these people being... is this wrong? Are these people... Jeff: Are they... are they messing with me? Steph: ...messing with me? And and he's... he's Canadian but he's also French Canadian so like he he also like... because if you're not French Canadian and you're Canadian the stereotype is like you're just super nice and you're just gonna be super nice and... "Oh of course I'll just tell you what time it is." If you're French Canadian you might be like, "You freaking idiot. Like... I'm glad that you're up here... I'm glad that you're up here you know spending your money even though we can't freaking stand you because you're from America, but..." Steph: It was a lot... there were a lot... yes, there were a lot of components. I love the fact that I think a little bit he was just like, it seemed like if he was like, "Dude, literally a clock right there," then it just would have felt a little less polite. So he didn't say that. And then we had to discover the clock on our own. And um, it was amazing and hilarious. So that was, again back to the time thing. Jeff: I have more soapbox about about that. Um, I'll... I'll do it... I'll do it briefly and try not to go on um, and make it annoying. But uh, when you... you treat your watch as your... as your timepiece... I'm sorry. When you treat your phone as your timepiece, and then you don't have your phone, you end up lost. And you can't conceive that there might be a giant clock on the wall. Although maybe you can conceive of it and you just because you're having a nice day with some beverages and with Julie you don't con... conceive of it. But anyway, this is why I'm always on Instagram, I'm always posting uh, these Sheffield watches. Because if you put on a watch that's just a watch on your wrist and it's not an Apple Watch like all of a sudden you've got the ability to tell time without necessarily getting hit by a bunch of distractions which an Apple Watch is gonna do to you, which pulling... pulling out your phone is gonna do to you. And I'm... I'm huge on this for my kids. I'm like, "Hey like... if you're looking at your phone to tell the time you're like, I don't know, half the time you get pulled in because you see a notification. And now you're looking at your phone more. And now you're more te..." Oh wait, I said I wasn't gonna keep going on and get on my soapbox but... Steph: No, but I hear what you're saying. And at first I was kind of like... you know, I have a thing about Apple Watches because they were like they're meant to be like they don't want to make you... to help people avoid pulling out their phone all the time. But they actually just make people look super rude because you look like you're literally just like, "Um, I don't have ti... like every single time something goes off you're like, 'Uh, is this over? Is it time...?'" You know what I mean? So um, but I hadn't thought about that cause you're right. Whenever you look at your phone, of course there's gonna be notifications and all that's gonna pull you in. And that's... it's a very good point. So yes to watches. Agreed. Jeff: Yep. And I'm gonna I'm gonna bring this all home and make it all Boaty. Ready? All right. Spa Nordique is... Spa Nordique is Boaty because in Iceland outdoor hot spring fed pools and indoor became about because the rate of death by drowning amongst Icelandic fishermen was so high because it's the freaking North Sea. And the last thing you want to do there and there aren't any lakes, right? But the last thing you want to do there is learn how to swim in the ocean. But so that meant the entire population of Iceland whose entire existence was supported by fishing... nobody knew how to swim! And it became a... a public safety, public health, community health like anti-drowning initiative to start... to create public outdoor hot springs... public outdoor hot tubs so that people could learn to swim. Uh, and they sprang up all around the country and it became like part of the culture that you go there to learn to swim but then you also go there to hang out with each other. And um, that's all so that people in Iceland can go fishing, if they go in the drink uh, survive... have a great chance of survival. Boaty. Right? Um, also the... the watch thing. If you have to pull your phone out to tell what time it is while you're out in a boat, you might drop your phone on the deck. You might drop your phone in the drink or off the dock. You also might get distracted by your phone and you're... when you're driving a boat or you're out there in a boat, you probably shouldn't be distracted because A, that means it's taking away from the enjoyment and B, because you might run into something. So... Boaty. Boom. Done. Okay. Steph: So... so learn to swim in a hot spring and buy a watch. Boom. Jeff: And have thermal experiences. Steph: Oh. Jeff: Um... Missy just texted me and called. Um... they just got hit from behind on 76. They're all okay. The cops are there now. Uh oh. Steph: Whoa. Jeff: Hold on a sec. Let me... let me communicate. Steph: Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Jeff: Everybody's okay. They don't need me to call or come pick them up. All right. Good. Well how about that? Steph: Do we have to move on? Jeff: Yeah. Yeah. Steph: I have... I have a th... I have a... one of my... I'll just tell you and you can always like edit this out later if it's boring. But one of the things that's funny about it is when you're at the spa you can tell which are the hot pools and which are the cold pools because there's nobody in the cold ones, right? Um, but there was this one that Julie and I found and they had... they tell you like the temperatures and um, it was empty and we were walking around and it is... I think they said it was like 69 degrees or something like that? But there's nobody in it and it feels cold but then we realized, wait, that's like the river temperature. That's like the temperature of the river, right? In the summer. And then we got in this cold-ish thing and then it was... and that but we got used to it really quickly and it was really delightful and lovely. So we think of it as like that's like the river temperature pool and we... that's the only cold-ish pool that I get in. But it's very nice. Jeff: That... that's awesome because if the river temperature hits 69 degrees we're probably bitching about it cause it's too warm. Steph: Exactly. Exactly right. Jeff: That's awesome. All right. All right we're gonna move on. Uh, next segment. Um, we're gonna play an interview which was uh, listener submitted. So Rob uh, shared this. Some friends of his recorded an interview with the heirs, the descendants of the founder of the Black Ball Ferry Fleet in Puget Sound, Seattle. So we're gonna play that and then uh, I did a bunch of research on all this that we'll talk about after the interview. So here it is. [Interview Segment] I am standing here with the heirs of the Black Ball Line. Yeah. A couple of them. Was that heir or errors? Errors. Probably errors. Doug and Chris McMahon are standing here with you. Doug and Chris McMahon. And our great grandfather was Charles Peabody who came out west in 1885 and started the Alaska Steamship Company and then the Puget Sound Navigation. They were flying the Black Ball flag, which his family owned on the East Coast from 1803 forward. The Black Ball flag's been flying... Nice. ...and uh, his son... I have one on my travel trailer and every time I go camping we post our big full-size flag. Just... it still flies around the region. Yes. She's... she's still flying. And flies in Portland too. So... So and then the state bought it... the ferries in the 50s. And turns out they stopped making money. Started running in the red. Yeah. So. Yeah. So can you give me a brief history of why it's a Black Ball and with a white circle and red in the middle? Well so that's from the Coho. Right. And so the Coho was the last Black Ball ship that's flying. And so they licensed the flag but they added the white circle. And why did they choose that? Well because it was part of the whole ferry system. Okay. And when the Coho started, the Coho started right after... But the original Black Ball flag, which was a red flag with a black ball only, no white circle, was also researched as um, like some kind of a maritime victory award for ships. You know when they when they won a battle or did something good like cannon-neering or something, you know grenade throwing, they would be awarded the flags and they would fly the flag. So it's one of them. I don't recall exactly which one. And the original Black Ball ships that sailed from Brooklyn to uh, England and mainland Europe and back, um, had a Black Ball flag that was a swallowtail flag. So it wasn't a rectangle, it was swallowtail and a giant black ball on the main sail. And they were the first company... Rad. Like pirates. It does look like the hurricane warning flags too. People often catch us about that which is typically a square black in the center of the red. But in some regions it's a round circle just like Puget Sound Navigation's Black Ball flag. Just a couple specific places. They were the first shipping company to leave on a scheduled date. So they were... in the mid 1800s a ship would leave when it was full. Ass in seat. We're leaving at this time. That's right. And the Black Ball said "We're leaving on this date, empty or full." So they changed the industry then. Yeah. So when we were kids we used to get to ride in the wheelhouse every once in a while. Oh yeah. Or if we were with our Grandpa downtown and you'd see all these, you know, basically old men at the time in the 60s, right? On the... on the waterfront. He'd walk up to half of them because they all knew who each were. You know, they worked in shipping or the shipyards together. Yeah. Did he know Iver Haglund? Yes. They lived near one another up in West... up in West Seattle at Alki. Yeah so he absolutely knew Iver Haglund. We also have a relative who was a bank robber. So you know, they... they ran... Keep clam. Keep clam. One of his brothers... One of his brothers was a bank robber. Spent his lifetime in prison. Was on Alcatraz. That's awesome. Twice. So you know... Captains of Industry and... not. Yeah. Pioneers. Pioneers. Please introduce yourself again. My name's Doug McMahon. I'm from Portland, Oregon. And I'm Chris McMahon, Doug's brother. And where do you live? Uh, Des Moines, Washington. Right up here just across the way. Originally from Portland though. We're both from Portland. So nice to meet you. Thank you so much. [End of Interview Segment] Steph: Yeah. But that is... that is... that is very cool. And I think like the... the boat itself is really cool too, right? I remember we talked about the boat once a while ago. Jeff: Yeah. Well there's the... there's the Kalakala and then there's the Coho. The Kalakala is like this really wild uh, streamlined early streamlining Art Deco looking um... I don't know why I say Art Deco I don't really know what that means. Uh, ferry. And then um, and that's that thing's like I think it's just sitting there... maybe it already got broken up. Uh, but it was derelict for a long time. And then the Coho is still operating, which we'll get to. I'm gonna talk this through in a little bit. All right so. Steph: Okay. Jeff: Puget Sound Ferries. So Puget Sound is surrounds Seattle. It's like between Seattle and Victoria British Columbia and there's island after island after island. It's probably my second favorite watery place that I've been to um, after the St. Lawrence River because there's just so much going on. Um, I like islands and inlets and... Steph: It is beautiful. Jeff: Yep. So uh, this presented a big challenge for getting around back in the day. Uh, because if you wanted to get out to one of these islands cause there's timber out there or other resources or because you wanted to live out there, um, yeah you had to take a boat. And the shortest distance between two points on land on the quote mainland was sometimes a boat, not or by water, not necessarily over land. So uh, there were ferries that that got established. And the... there's like three big eras of ferries um, in in the Puget Sound. The first is the "Mosquito Fleet" era which was like 1850s to the 1920s. And it's when people really nailed down and commercialized the... the ferry as transportation infrastructure and the waterways are now how people get around, right? Um, and it helped develop the region. So um, like before the 1880s or so uh, it was all about steamboats. And the... the first steamships that got there cause you had to go basically either come from Asia or go around uh, the tip of South America back in the day before the Panama Canal to get to this place. So the Hudson Bay Company sent the SS Beaver in the 1830s which showed how uh, steam power... Steph: Beaver... Jeff: Yeah yeah... Steph: [Laughs] Thank god for the Canadians. All right. Jeff: The Hudson's Bay Company sent the SS Beaver like around the horn uh, even better... Steph: [Laughs] Jeff: In the 1830s. So uh, all of a sudden like you've got a steamboat that's like cruising around Puget Sound and it works out. Um, and the... the Americans, I think the Canadian... I don't know a lot about the Canadian history of the West Coast but the American history of the West Coast uh, was like, you know okay... 1849, 49ers... uh, the West like opened up in a... the West Coast opened up in a big way because of the Gold Rush. Um, but then timber became a huge deal. Probably more money made in timber than in uh, gold at that point. But the first American steamboat was the SS Fairy. Okay? Begins scheduled service in the 1850s and it linked uh, Olympia and Seattle. And roads were hammered. It was just mud, you know, nothing was paved. Uh, you definitely wanted to be on a... on a steamer. Maybe a sidewheeler like, you know, old-timey sidewheelers on the... on the Mississippi. Um, but it was really the only way that mail and your goods and s... goods and people got from town to town on the Puget Sound. So that was like early steamboats pre-1880s. And then in the 1880s uh, it really started to take off. So as the area developed, the... the something happened called the Mos... the Swarm, right? So the swarm of the Mosquito Fleet. Hundreds of small um, independent privately owned steamships pl... basically started creating a dense network and they were all competing with each other. Cause like all you needed was a boat with a steam engine and you could get going. Um, and there were some some famous boats during this time. Fleet... Mosquito Fleet boats. And this was not like, you know, so-and-so owned the Mosquito Fleet, it was just like "Hey there's a swarm of boats out there we're gonna call them and they're all small so we're gonna call them the Mosquito Fleet." Uh, and this is where the names get names get more lame. The SS Flyer, the SS Bailey Gatzert. Steph: Okay. I like SS Fairy. Direct. Jeff: Yeah. Yeah. Uh, and and then there's this huge opportunity and this dude named Charles Peabody who we heard about. We heard from his descendants uh, and we heard about the Black Ball uh, right? From his descendants just a minute ago. Charles Peabody. He shows up with this... this family history of the uh, Transatlantic Fleet where they innovated and um... this is something you're pretty psyched about which is like "Oh okay we're gonna have scheduled service instead of just waiting until we've got a full load and then we'll go. We're gonna leave at noon." Steph: Mm-hm. Yeah. Well I just think it's interesting like I... I remember we talked about this pr... I guess you said maybe with Rob a while ago. I find it fascinating the idea that you would get on a boat and then just wait for enough people to get on the boat to have to leave. That's... I could see how that would be disruptive to your day. Jeff: Yeah. Steph: Maybe hopefully those peop... they didn't have watches. But um, but they uh... but then yeah I guess I would appreciate the fact that you had some general idea of when it might leave. But I can see how the risk would be uh, you had to travel empty some so maybe you just had to... more reliable. It was a leap of faith, right? They were like, "If we make it more reliable then people will use it more." Right? Jeff: Yeah. And scheduled service for trains was probably a thing but, you know, when you've got this big boat you definitely don't want to... you don't want to go empty. And so I can see the commercial interest in like a full boat being there but also like then you're leaving out a lot of people who were like "I don't want to sit around and wait for this." Um, anyway. I don't know. Charles Peabody. Uh, so he... he's a descendant of the people that started the Black Ball Fleet way back in the early early 1800s. He shows up out there and starts buying up the swarm. Um, he creates the Puget Sound Navigation Company, PSNC, in 1898. And then just starts buying up competing Mosquito Fleet companies. Like he bought up the White Collar Line. Steph: Mmm. Jeff: Don't know why it's called White Collar Line. Um, going to guess it was fancy. Uh, and eventually becomes the... the biggest operator. Steph: You said fancy? Jeff: Fancy. Steph: Okay. Jeff: And then what Peabody did, based... based on this research is he figured out that the automobile was gonna be a threat, okay? To... to the ferry fleet because now you've got cars. People buy cars, they want the roads to get better so that they can drive their cars. The roads do get better so more people get cars to drive on those roads. So then he figures out that this is a threat and starts converting his ferries to carry cars. And the rest of the Mosquito Fleet, many of whom he'd bought up in the first place, but the rest of the Mosquito Fleet that hadn't been acquired by the Puget Sound Navigation Company... they're not... they're not as like strategic as he is. They don't start converting their boats to carry cars... he does. So they die off. No more. Right? So now he's got a monopoly. And uh, he officially at... at this point adopts the Black Ball Line as its name. Um, and the flag that we heard about, the red and black ball uh, flag in the in the late 20s. Um, coincidentally also around the time of Prohibition and tons and tons of smuggling of da booze from Canada into the US. I am not... I'm not accusing the Black Ball Line of being involved in smuggling um, but it was going on. And uh, there was succession also in the family. Alexander takes over um, from his dad uh, and uh, they really nail down... And then ah this is where... so then they launch the Kalakala. K-A-L-A-K-A-L-A. Kalakala in 1935. This is the streamlined Art Deco ferry that uh, that we we talked about last time and our friends Rob and Jen and Byron uh, actually went out and checked out um, while it was still floating. And it's just like really cool. Looks like um, you know uh, like early streamlined locomotives and trains. That kind of thing with like really neat windows and and that sort of thing. Um, but that becomes the international symbol of the fleet. Everybody's super psyched about it. Um, so that was like 20s, 30s. And then World War II hits. And um, labor organizing really took off around World War II. Uh, and the ferry workers started unionizing and uh, probably pushing back on on pay and working conditions and hours and stuff. And this monopoly uh, had, you know... being a monopoly is great unless there's a strike. And then your... you know your workers strike and your boats aren't running and people are like "Well [bleep], I gotta get around." So now maybe they figure out that they don't have to take the ferry. Take their car on the ferry, take their truck on the ferry and they um... they go elsewhere and that starts to... to put pressure on the ferry. But also like if you've got to raise wages, um, now your... your margins are lower. Blah blah blah. So um, ultimately uh, the... you know the... there was a... a wartime um, freeze in wages and operations but the... the unions um, really pushed for better wages which put a bunch of strain on the... on the company. And the... the only way that... that the Peabodys could make this all work was uh, with a big fare increase. So they um... pushed for a 30% fare increase to cover their costs. Um, and the... they had... it had gotten to the point where they were being regulated at this point because it was, you know, privately operated transportation infrastructure that everybody relied on. Um, so they were regulated and the state said "Nope." So like, you know, a public utility commission has to negotiate rate increases with their state regulator. So same thing happened here. Um, and Peabody says "Give us 30% more." State says "Nope." And Peabody says "All right, F you." They shut it all down. They shut it all down. And that stranded uh, like all the commuters. And people were super pissed at them for shutting it down. Um, which then turned it into a political moment. And uh, the... you know people, businesses said "Take over this... this as an essential utility." And that's when uh, Washington State purchased all this stuff from... all the ferries and the whole system from the uh, the Peabodys. From the Black Ball Line. And that created the Washington State Ferry System. And as you heard in the... in the um, interview, uh, was running... ended up running at a loss. I don't know if it still does, it may as... as a lot of public transit infrastructure does. Um, but the state bought out the Black Ball Line in... in 51. And um, they bought it out for 4.9 million dollars which in like "today dollars" is still not even that much I don't think for, you know, 16 ships, 20 terminals uh, which is what it was at the time. Um, but anyway they buy it out and start operating on... in June of 51. And uh, the state said "Hey we're just gonna do this until we build all the bridges everywhere." Uh, which didn't really happen. Um, and the Washington State Ferry uh, system just change... they basically uh, did away with the Black Ball livery. Which is like the Boaty way of saying how you paint [bleep]. Um, what colors. Um, so they went from orange to green. Uh, but the... the company, Captain Peabody, Alexander, um, and his family retained the route... the international route between... between Seattle and Victoria. And that is the MV Coho which still runs uh, and it's still the Black Ball Ferry Line. And it um... basically gives you a through line from like the original Transatlantic Fleet that did scheduled service for the first time ever um, and, you know... you're on board or not we're leaving at noon. Through line from like the early early 1800s all the way through to today. The Black Ball line has been continuously running or the Black Ball uh... the... Black Ball family or I'm sorry the Black Ball line has been continuously running cause the Coho is still going. Was launched in 59 but it uh... it's still the um... it's still a major private auto ferry line in the region. And international. So goes back and forth to Canada. Which is what you did when you went to the Hot Springs as well. Steph: Um, yeah. I love that. I love that it's still running. I didn't realize that. Jeff: Yeah. The Coho. I... I was out there for work years ago and I thought about taking um, taking the ferry up to Victoria. There's a high speed... and I don't think it's the Coho. There's a high speed ferry that runs also. Um, it may even go further than Victoria but uh, cause I was like "Oh man it'd be pretty cool to do a day trip to just like take the ferry from Seattle up through the Sound to, you know, wherever. Like get off get a... get some poutine and then come back." Although it's the West Coast I don't know if poutine... I don't know if poutine made it out there or maybe they call it something else. I love ferries. Steph: I do too. And I... I've actually been to that part of the world only one time, but I was... I went to a wedding on Vashon Island. And then um, so yeah I was to... completely taken with how watery and boaty it was and we totally took a ferry there and it was amazing and I loved it. And yes, I agree. Ferries are fun and um, that's some... that's some very cool history. I like it. Jeff: Yeah. Well we're gonna... we're gonna wrap up now. Um, because uh... I just got a call and a text from my wife and she... Steph: Yeah. Jeff: She and Mary Jane... so Missy and Mary Jane got rear-ended. I think Toby too. Got rear-ended on the highway. And uh, they don't need a ride but just in case they do I want to wrap it up. Everybody's okay. Nobody got hurt. Steph: Yeah. Sounds good. Good. Good. Jeff: Yeah. Um, but couple things. One, I am currently wearing a Boaty Show hat. And uh, the hot admin, the lovely Melissa, set up a freaking e-commerce website so that you listeners if you would like can buy a Boaty Show hat and we will ship it to you. We don't really make any money on this. It's... it's all uh, basically break-even. Um, but that can be found at thebodyshow.com/merch. M-E-R-C-H. Merch. Thebodyshow.com/merch. They're... I'm very excited because I've got a big head and we have an extra large hat. Which means that if you usually put like the... the little snappy back thing on like the last two nubbins, the snap back on the last two nubbins... on the XL Boaty Show hat you get... you get to at least on my head you get five nubbins. You can snap five hat nubbins. And it... and it doesn't look like you're cramming a tiny hat on top of your big head. So that's exciting. Uh, there's... there's Heather Grey, Dark Grey, and Navy Blue. And uh, would love it if you guys ordered some um, because uh... it's... it's a cool hat. It's got the boat tractor on it. Steph: Mm-hm. It's the holiday season. Time to go buy some merch for your friends and families. Everybody needs a Boaty Show hat. Jeff: Yeah. Also these were made by Bolt Printing who who we talked uh, about on the show once upon a time. Uh, they're really cool people and... Steph: You love them. Jeff: I do. I do. And they made a video of the hats getting made that I'll I'll try and repost. Um, and the other thing is that my book is out. So is the audiobook. So You Teach The Machines: AI on Your Terms is available on everywhere you get your audiobooks. Uh, Audible, Amazon, Apple, and then like 35 others. So if you don't mind listening to my voice, uh, I read the book and people are finding it really helpful. And uh, you can support the show and us doing this silly stuff by buying hats and checking out the book. We are gonna wrap it up. Steph: And next time we get to do Photo of the Week. Jeff: Oh yes! Yes. We're bringing back Photo of the Week next time. Um, there have been a bunch of submissions while we've been on our hiatus and uh, we can't wait. So like next week will probably mostly be Photo of the Week discussions. Jeff & Steph: [Singing together] Yo ho ho, that's it for the Boaty Show. Pack the cooler, grab the lines, let's go go go. Yo ho ho... Jeff: That's it for the Boaty Show. Boom we are out. Say bye-bye Stephanie. Steph: Bye-bye Stephanie.
Runnin’ down the show: Joey in Montucky Anthony Marrese and Bob Buchannan in the house! // Regional Roundup: Winter Crab by Beau-Mac, Coho, chum & Squid ducks and geese! Douglas Rod update and Rivers Inlet videos! // Rick Greybill of Hooked on toys Wenatchee: Chelan Kokanee, Rufus rainbow & Icicle coho // Picks of the Week!
Runnin’ down the show: Mid-November weather mischief…. // Winter Crab, Coho, chum & An early walk for a late buck and a talk with the Commission // The BeauMac TECH Line: Josh Shalan of luredawaygs.com Columbia sturgeon and closer to home! // Picks of the week: Hills, mountains, marsh and huntin’ season! Puppies
Runnin’ down the show: Back from notching a Montana tag to leaves on the ground and rivers in the trees! // Regional Roundup: Winter crab, Coho and chum update, standing water in fields and late buck hunt this week! // The BeauMac TECH Line: Jason Tonelli of vancouversalmonfishing.ca Canadian winter chinook…NOW! Eh?? // Picks of the Week!
Show Notes:https://wetflyswing.com/830 Presented By: Mountain Waters Resort Sponsors:https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Few fishing experiences compare to the thrill of pursuing Atlantic salmon on a fly rod. In this episode, Calvin Tull shares his passion for Atlantic salmon fly fishing and the art of Spey casting, offering a glimpse into the patience, precision, and technique that define this timeless pursuit. From scenic rivers to unforgettable encounters on the water, Calvin reflects on the lessons learned through years of fishing adventures and the subtle details that turn a good cast into a great one. Whether you're an experienced angler or just beginning your fly fishing journey, you'll find inspiration and practical insights in this conversation. 02:47 – He talks about how he transitioned from conventional gear to using fly rods and why that change completely reshaped his fishing journey. 05:28 – He recalls the moment he realized the power of the swing while learning to chase shad, describing how it sparked his obsession with fly fishing. Fly fishing Photo Provided by - Calvin Tull 07:54 – He shares memories of his early mentors and how their patience and instruction helped him refine his casting and reading-the-water skills. Watch How to Read The Water here. 10:36 – He discusses the excitement of planning his first major salmon trip and the nerves that came with trying something entirely new. 13:12 – He explains how preparation—fly selection, line setup, and practice—can make or break a trip before you ever step into the river. Rifle Hitch Atlantic Salmon Tubes Photo Provided by Calvin Tull 15:47 – He tells a story about catching his first Atlantic salmon and the pure adrenaline that came with landing that unforgettable fish. Atlantic Salmon photo Provided by Calvin Tull 18:34 – He laughs about the challenges of learning Spey casting and how it took dozens of tangled lines before things finally started to click. Watch a 7-minute Spey Fishing Lesson for you! Click it here 21:05 – He opens up about the mistakes most new anglers make and how trial and error taught him lessons no book could ever explain. 24:02 – He shares his favorite types of flies, explaining why he prefers simple, durable patterns that hold up against powerful fish. An assortment of expertly tied streamer flies, perfect for targeting Atlantic salmon in fly fishing 26:48 – He reflects on fishing local Pennsylvania waters, explaining how each season brings new species and fresh challenges to chase. 29:37 – He talks about how patience and rhythm matter more than technique when you're learning to feel the water's flow. 32:10 – He recalls one of his toughest fishing days when nothing went right—and how those experiences often teach more than perfect ones. Fly fishing in a pristine river surrounded by scenic wilderness — an unforgettable outdoor experience. 38:09 – He opens up about the community aspect of fishing and the importance of sharing stories, tips, and time on the water with others. 41:03 – He explains the subtle connection between casting and mindfulness, saying both require focus, timing, and presence. Tips on How to Focus and See More Fish - Click here! 43:57 – He shares his love for exploring new rivers and the excitement of not knowing what each cast might bring. 46:44 – He gives practical advice to beginners—keep your gear simple, watch the water, and don't rush the process. 49:22 – He tells a story about mentoring a young angler and how seeing others grow reignited his own passion for teaching. 52:15 – He reflects on how fishing has evolved for him—from catching fish to appreciating the journey, nature, and the friendships built along the way. stunning Coho salmon freshly landed during a fly fishing adventure 52:15 – He reflects on how fishing has evolved for him—from catching fish to appreciating the journey, nature, and the friendships built along the way. 55:03 – He wraps up by sharing what keeps him returning to the water year after year: the peace, the challenge, and the endless lessons the river offers. 57:36 – He ends on an inspiring note, encouraging listeners to find their own rhythm, stay curious, and never stop learning from the water.
Host Zach Urness breaks down how the government shutdown is impacting Oregon's public lands and three other news stories focusing on wildfires, salmon and Douglas fir trees. Urness talks about the status of national parks and monuments such as Crater Lake and the Painted Hills during the closure, before talking about how bad the 2025 wildfire season was compared to recent years. Finally, he talks about the rebound of coho salmon on the Oregon Coast and the historic "dieback" of Oregon's Douglas fir trees in southwest Oregon and in the Willamette Valley.
It's officially Fall and rivers and tributaries are open for business. Bobber & Egg fishing for Chinook & Coho is really good in a number of area's. Guest Nick Petosa, owner of Petosa Guide Service is here to discuss the Skagit River and the excellent Coho opportunity. Also, Jerrod Gibbons, owner at Okanogan Valley Guide Service is here to talk Eastside hunts, muzzleloader and rifle. Also, the new State wide No Baiting Rule and how it may or may not affect November archery hunts. Plus, fall river fishing for Chinook and Coho- Are You Ready... Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Runnin’ down the show!! Pyburn back from Montana with an archery elk and finishing the salmon season strong! // Regional Roundup: Everett Coho Derby in the books, Duckworth Atlas on the trailer…rain in the forecast: Transitioning coho into the cricks! // Cary Hoffman of cnhguideservice.com on late season strategies for success on Marine Area 10 coho // Picks of the week
We're talking about a new technique sweeping the fishing world this time on the Angler Quest Podcast with "Mr. Angler Quest", Brad Dupuie. Brad talks about the use of "Forward Facing Sonar", also called "Live Scope". He describes how he's used that unit for different species of fish and why it can be a game changer for anglers. He also talks about the new Angler Quest Fish n Cruise FS, designed specifically for Live Scoping. The boat designer and hard core angler then has details on the new Leisure Quest line of boats and why his company continues to evolve and improve.
In this episode of Fishing for a Reason, Jamie and Scott take you along for a September day on the water between Salmon Bank and Eagle Point in Marine Area 7. Fresh off the Salmon for Soldiers event in Everett, they share stories of fishing with veterans, tips for targeting coho in September, and tactical advice for managing crowded waters. From choosing the right gear and lures to handling unexpected whale encounters, this episode is packed with knowledge, community spirit, and plenty of coho action.What You'll LearnThe mission and impact of Salmon for Soldiers and how you can get involved.September coho fishing strategies in Everett, San Juan Islands, and beyond.Gear tips: hoochies, spoons, and leader lengths that consistently produced fish.Boat ramp hacks and crowd navigation during busy fishing weekends.Whale safety rules every angler needs to know when orcas and transients appear.Pro tips: why checking your gear often makes or breaks a good day.Resources MentionedSalmon for Soldiers organization → https://salmonforsoldiers.org Harbor Marine, Everett, WA (event host site) → https://www.harbormarine.net Join the Anglers Unlimited Circle Community→ email support@anglersunlimited.co with the subject line “Catch More Fish” for more information.
Runnin’ down the show!! Live in Studio with Bob “Bubba” Buchannan! JOEY AWOL in Montucky! S4S postgame // Regional Roundup:: Everett Coho Derby Day, Snohomish River closure… for chinook impacts? Winter Crabbing scenarios? // Kevin John of HolidaySportsBurlington.com Skagit coho, youth hunts and early big game archery & muzzleloader seasons // Picks of the Week!
Rich Olson of nwfishingcharters.com Post-season Downrigger care because… damn… // Don't miss Three Rivers Marine's Northwest Outdoor Report! // Duckworth Wheelhouse: David Dietrich adventure-angling.com TOO MANY COHO in the South Sound! // Poulsbo RV's Really? Where? Hit your neighborhood RV store in Mt Vernon, Everett, Sumner or Kent and Get Rollin' into SUMMER!
I started my run at the weir on Robinwood Drive and followed the Irvine trail up toward the summit. The morning was cool and damp after a night of rain, and I stopped briefly to admire the nasturtiums blooming in bright orange before the climb began. As I pushed into Zone 3, I felt steady, letting the rhythm of the trail and my thoughts about mindset and community carry me upward. Reaching the summit, the wind hit hard, but the wide view of the Coho ferry and ships in the distance reminded me why I love these climbs. The descent down Glendenning was steep and rocky, and I took it carefully, grateful for the workout, the scenery, and the sense of moving into a new season on the trails.
Runnin’ down the show!! Back from the Fraser and wow… September silvers and the first full month of hunts! // Regional Roundup: Hooknose coho just in time for Derby Season! Tuna pushing in closer and closing the coastal salmon window // Dave Miller: Chairman of the EverettcohoDerby.Com Who's fishin’ the Edmonds derby today! // Picks of the week!
Duane Inglin, joined by Bill Herzog In-Studio- The boys are just back from a week or so at Buoy 10. A recap plus a detailed explanation of gear that was very productive. Plus, Matt Messing- Messin' Around Fishing Charters, Puget Sound area 10 Pinks and Coho. What's happening now and what to expect in September...
Send us a textIn this episode of Fishing for a Reason, Jamie takes a deep dive into the art and science of smoking salmon
Duane Inglin is joined In-Studio by Bill Herzog, The fella's discuss the amazing Pink and Coho opportunity right now in Puget Sound. Also, Summer Run Steelhead in local rivers after this recent rain. Plus- a recap of the FHN's Crew recent trip to Alaska King Salmon Adventures camp. A tutorial step-by-step on egg curing getting ready for fall salmon fishing. Also- Guest: Todd Adkins, Senior Vice President with Sportsmen's Alliance. There is a ton that has happened in the past couple weeks with the WA St. Fish & Wildlife Commission. Not to mention an Anti-Hunting group insisting that WDFW Director Kelly Susewind be removed. How to make sense of it all.... Todd is here to answer questions!
Send us a textIn this episode of Fishing for a Reason, Scott and Jamie dive into the excitement of the late summer Coho (Silver Salmon) season. With an extended fishing window from August 1st to September 30th, they break down everything you need to know about targeting Coho and Pink Salmon in the San Juan Islands and Puget Sound. From gear tips and prime locations to fish behavior, species identification, and a hands-on rigging tutorial, this episode is packed with actionable insights for both beginner and seasoned anglers.What Listeners Will Learn:How to identify Coho (Silvers) and distinguish them from other salmon species.Seasonal movements and peak times for Coho fishing in the San Juan Islands.Techniques and gear setups for targeting Coho and Pink Salmon.Rigging tutorial for tying a two-hook hoochie rig with Mylar inserts.Understanding current fish return forecasts for Puget Sound and Hood Canal.Shore fishing strategiesFishing hotspots like Deception Pass.How to interpret sonar and target different depths effectively.Best practices for landing acrobatic Coho and gear adjustments to increase landing success.Updates on the Resurrection Derby and how to get involved.Resources & Links Referenced:- SalmonScape Interactive Map- Washington Department of Fish & Wildlife Salmon ID Guide- Resurrection Derby Tickets- DeepZoom Marine Charts- Anglers Unlimited Inner Circle Community: Email support@anglersunlimited.co with subject line “CATCH MORE FISH”
Send us a textIn this deep-dive solo episode of Fishing for a Reason, Jamie explores the age-old angler question: "Why do salmon bite?" Drawing from both scientific research and firsthand experience, she breaks down five major factors that influence Chinook and Coho feeding behavior in the ocean — including tides, barometric pressure, moon phases, scent, and lure presentation. If you're ready to make smarter, more strategic decisions on the water, this episode is your new must-listen.What You'll LearnThe science behind salmon feeding behavior in saltwaterHow tides and current influence baitfish — and salmonWhether moon phases really affect the salmon biteWhat barometric pressure changes do to salmon activityHow scent (good or bad) impacts salmon decision-makingTips to improve your lure or bait presentation to trigger more bitesHow to track fishing data to make better decisions over timeWhether you're new to salmon fishing or a seasoned vet, you'll walk away with practical tools and insight to fish smarter.Tools Mentioned: - Navionics Boating App- Lemon Joy Soap (gear cleaning tip)
On this Episode, Duane & Tommy welcome guest: Morgan Stinson, CFO at WDFW. The guys discuss with Morgan the impacts of the WA St. Legislators refusing to properly fund the State agency so that DFW can maintain status-quo in operations. Instead, WDFW is looking at personnel layoffs and cutting programs. Morgan has the details. The guys also discuss, Puget Sound Resident Coho, frustrations and success. Also- The Tuna Are Here!! and the fella's have the update
Keith Parry founded and ran the legendary record store and label, Scratch Records, which opened in 1987. He played in bands including Superconductor, Octatrackter, Twerdocleb, Kicking it with Coho, The Gay, Pink Mountaintops, and Neko Case. Keith lives on Vancouver Island and we walked and talked on April 25th 2025, when he came to Vancouver to see some music shows. This conversation will extend across two episodes and this is part two. Scratch Records started in 1987 at 317A Cambie St. It moved to 109 West Cordova St, 726 Richards St, and finally, the Interurban Gallery at 1 East Hastings (2010-2104). The Cruel Elephant opened at 117 Granville St in August 1990 and lastest for a couple of years before moving to two other locations. Other venues visited: the Marine Club, the Arts Club Lounge, Richards on Richards. Other venues discussed: Comox Valley Curling Club, The Railway Club, the Town Pump. Bands discussed: Yob, The Flaming Lips, Texas Instruments, Green Day, The Smugglers, Jesus Lizard, Thinking Fellows union, Surgery, Pavement, Snuff, Nomeansno, Destroyer, Devours, Drama Queen, Isocracy. This episode features the following music: Superconductor: Thorsen's Eleven on Hit Songs For Girls (Boner Records 1993). Windwalker: Burning Inside on The Mint Is A Terrible Thing To Taste (Mint Records 1991) The Smugglers: Vancouver, B.C. on The Smugglers At Marineland (Nardwuar Records 1991)
Send us a textIn this episode of Fishing for a Reason, Jamie and Scott share their exciting visit to the Bonneville Fish Hatchery and Dam along the Columbia River in Oregon. This spontaneous road trip detour turned into a full-day educational experience, featuring massive sturgeon, powerful hydroelectric turbines, and insights into fish conservation and hatchery operations. If you've ever wondered what goes on behind the scenes at a hatchery — from spawning techniques to how millions of salmon and steelhead are raised — this episode is a must-listen.
Keith Parry founded and ran the legendary record store and label, Scratch Records, which opened in 1987. He played in bands including Superconductor, Octatrackter, Twerdocleb, Kicking it with Coho, The Gay, Pink Mountaintops, and Neko Case. Keith lives on Vancouver Island and we walked and talked on April 25th 2025, when he came to Vancouver to see some music shows. This conversation will extend across two episodes. The Savoy at 6 Powell St, was run by Janet Forsyth and showcased local and touring bands from the early 1980s until it closed in April 1988. Scratch Records started in 1987 at 317a Cambie St. It moved to 109 West Cordova St, 726 Richards St, and finally, Interurban Gallery at 1 East Hastings (2010-2104). Other venues visited and discussed: The Marine Club, The Railway Club, UBC Sub Ballroom, the Town Pump, Richards on Richards. Bands discussed: Simple Minds, The Cult, Go for Three, The Residents, Nomeansno, Flaming Lips, Soul Asylum, Spirit of the West, Grooveaholics, Art Bergman, Bob's Your Uncle, The Scramblers, the Nerve Tubes, Animal Slaves, Poisoned, Brilliant Orange, White Lung, Ancients, Tobeatic, Black Wizard, Three Wolf Moon, Mecca Normal, Pedestrian Sacrifice, Duotron, Couch, To Live and Shave in LA. This episode features the following music: Superconductor: Bushpilot from Heavy with Puppy (Boner Record Company, produced by "special" arrangement with Scratch Records, 1992) Oktatrackter : Kiddie Fist from Kiddie Fist 7” (Kil-Tel Records 1991)
Duane is joined In-Studio by Bill Herzog once again, The guys welcome guest Conner Martinis, owner of John's Sporting Goods in Everette. Topics discussed, Puget Sound Area 10 Resident Coho. Also the coming summer Chinook opportunity, Coho & Pink Salmon. Also- Duane takes a walk through of the McKay Crab & Shrimp Gear business and discusses the build and quality of the McKay Shrimp and Crab Gear with owner Keith Beck and all they have to offer.
Light penetration and color selection for lures is discussed in this article by Capt. Mike Schoonveld. Host Lucas Holmgren reads this Great Lakes Angler article - pertinent to Chinook, Coho, Brown Trout, Steelhead and many more species.
This week, Elise chats with Cheryl Masterson, a Wisconsin DNR team supervisor and long time Lake Michigan fisheries manager. They chat about Cheryl's 28-year career in fisheries which spans species like Coho salmon, yellow perch, and (Elise's favorite fish) lake sturgeon, and her love for the Great Lakes. Listen in to hear Cheryl and Elise realize mid-episode that the world is actually incredibly small! Main point: Learn how to market your skills! Get in touch with us! The Fisheries Podcast is on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram: @FisheriesPod Become a Patron of the show: https://www.patreon.com/FisheriesPodcast Buy podcast shirts, hoodies, stickers, and more: https://teespring.com/stores/the-fisheries- podcast-fan-shop Thanks as always to Andrew Gialanella for the fantastic intro/outro music. The Fisheries Podcast is a completely independent podcast, not affiliated with a larger organization or entity. Reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by the podcast. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by the hosts are those of that individual and do not necessarily reflect the view of any entity that those individuals are affiliated in other capacities (such as employers).
In this edition of West Virginia Outdoors, Chris Lawrence chats with listener Calvin Grimm and Captain Adam DeLand about an unforgettable fishing trip on Lake Ontario, reeling in Browns, Coho, and Lake Trout. Hear how spring conditions create the perfect storm for success and learn about conservation efforts for Atlantic salmon. Later, Brad Reed, Executive Director of the West Virginia State Parks Foundation, joins Chris to discuss the foundation's mission, recent improvements, and the future of West Virginia's top-tier state park system. Plus, a preview of the upcoming West Virginia Trout Festival!
Send us a textIf you've ever dreamt of catching Coho salmon using a fly rod, this episode is for you! We're joined by Flo Benson, an expert fly fishing guide from Tofino, who shares his wealth of knowledge gained from years of experience guiding fishers along the breathtaking coasts of Vancouver Island. Flo dives into the essentials of saltwater fly fishing, discussing the best gear to use, from rod selection to the importance of using the proper fly patterns.Throughout the episode, we explore the dynamics of Coho salmon, including their behaviour during different times of the year and the tactical approach needed for successful fishing. Flo elaborates on the importance of varying your retrieve speed and the science behind why specific colours like pink and chartreuse work wonders in attracting these aggressive fish. Beyond gear and technique, we also touch on how environmental factors can influence your successful catch ratio, particularly during changing atmospheric conditions.Aspiring and seasoned anglers alike will gain a treasure trove of information on casting techniques, the necessary adjustments when targeting Coho, and the exciting reality of the battle once a big fish is on the line. Flo emphasizes sustainable fishing practices, reminding us that as stewards of our natural resources, it is crucial to respect and preserve our oceans and rivers.Join us for a lively discussion filled with expert insights and passionate storytelling, perfect for anyone looking to up their fishing game. Don't forget to subscribe, share, or leave a review to help spread the love for fishing!
#716 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/716 Presented by: FishHound Expeditions In this episode, we're joined by Tim Bristol, the Executive Director of SalmonState, to discuss the urgent challenges and exciting successes in protecting Alaska's iconic salmon populations. With nearly three decades of experience in conservation, Tim offers valuable insights into the complexities of salmon recovery, from commercial fisheries to the influence of Indigenous communities. We dive into the surprising story behind Alaska's sockeye returns, the role of climate change, and how local efforts are making a difference. If you're passionate about salmon and sustainable conservation, this episode is for you! Tune in to learn what you can do to help ensure a future for these incredible fish. Episode Chapters with Tim Bristol on SalmonState 3:49 - Tim, who has been involved in conservation for 30 years, shares his journey into working with SalmonState, an organization dedicated to preserving Alaska's status as "the salmon state." 6:11 - We discuss the significance of salmon in Alaska as an indicator of ecosystem health. Tim highlights the vastness of the region, spanning from Ketchikan to the North Slope, and the importance of the Tongass National Forest, the largest national forest in the U.S., as a key salmon habitat. 12:37 - Tim discusses the current state of Chinook salmon in Alaska. He contrasts their decline with the resurgence of sockeye salmon, noting that while sockeye populations have flourished, Chinook salmon are facing severe challenges. These include restrictions on fishing in areas like the Kenai River and the Yukon River, where harvests have been completely banned for years. Factors contributing to this decline include food scarcity due to shifting ocean conditions and predation by marine mammals, such as killer whales, which are consuming millions of Chinooks annually. 21:55 - Tim outlines several key projects and initiatives his team is focusing on for the upcoming year. These include engaging with the Trump administration to push Canada to address issues around transboundary rivers, advocating for responsible forest management that prioritizes salmon, and pushing for legislative protections to preserve water quality and safeguard salmon habitats. Additionally, reducing bycatch from industrial trawlers remains a major priority. 27:38 - Tim one emerging issue which is hatchery fish production, with concerns that hatchery fish may compete with wild salmon for resources, particularly food. There's also the question of where these hatchery fish go after being released, as some may stray into wild systems, potentially disrupting those ecosystems. 29:25 - He highlights various ways listeners can get involved, such as following their organization's updates on social media and signing up for the weekly news roundup. Tim emphasizes the importance of supporting sustainable fishing by purchasing wild Alaska sockeye salmon. He also encourages visiting Alaska to support local economies and to be mindful of where to spend money. 31:57 - Tim discusses several ongoing issues related to salmon conservation. One key topic is the West Susitna River, the fourth largest salmon producer in Alaska, which is threatened by a proposed industrial access road. This road would be used to access a gold mine, with public funds supporting the project. The region is known for its massive smelt (hooligan) run, which is important to the local ecosystem. The road construction has sparked controversy, with concerns from sport fishing guides, local residents, and conservation groups like the Wild Salmon Center, who worry about the impact on the area's pristine fishing environment. Tim also explains the role of the Alaska Industrial Development and Export Authority (AIDEA), a state agency that funds large projects, which is involved in financing this road. 36:17 - I mention Tim's work on their website, an article entitled "My Turn". This piece was written in reaction to accusations that their organization is comprised of outsiders aiming to disrupt Alaska's development. Tim explains that half of their 13-member team, including himself, have deep roots in Alaska, with some being Alaska Native. They have backgrounds in commercial and sport fishing, illustrating their connection to the state. 37:22 - Tim mentions that their organization hosts weekly updates and a series called "Salmon Stories," profiling individuals with strong ties to salmon. These profiles include sport fishing guides, commercial fishermen, and Alaska Native elders. Although they've considered starting a podcast, they currently focus on video interviews and transcriptions shared through their "Salmon Stories." 39:59 - Tim highlights the robust conservation community in Alaska, particularly focusing on groups involved with salmon conservation and the intersection with fishing. Key organizations mentioned include the Susitna River Coalition and the Wild Salmon Center, which has a strong presence in Alaska under the leadership of Emily Anderson. 41:07 - Despite concerns about fish populations, Tim believes that wild-caught sockeye and coho are good choices for consumers, though he advises vigilance in ensuring that fish is responsibly sourced. 47:01 - Tim highlights how Alaska Native communities have long, uninterrupted histories in the region and emphasizes the importance of working with them. Over the past few decades, Tim notes, tribal governments have reemerged as key players in conservation, especially in protecting and restoring salmon habitats. They are now at the center of conservation discussions, and Tim believes that their involvement has significantly improved conservation efforts. Indigenous communities also offer a different perspective on timeframes, focusing on long-term sustainability, which is crucial for successful conservation. 52:43 - We talk about the unique aspects of Juneau, Alaska. Tim describes it as a self-contained town with a population of 30,000, accessible only by plane or ferry. Despite its size, it has various amenities, including a hospital, symphony, ice rink, and ski area. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/716
For the last few weeks steelhead trout, coho and chinook salmon have been making their historic trek from the ocean to their spawning grounds. As the fish swim upstream, they are being closely watched. Coho, steelhead and chinook are endangered and threatened species. And new state and federal water rules, announced just before Christmas could make things even worse for salmon in the Bay Delta. We speak with Alaistar Bland from CalMatters.
Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/689 Presented by: On DeMark Lodge, TroutRoutes, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Togiak River Lodge Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors In this episode, we journey to fly fishing southwest Washington with expert guide Jackson Golik. Known for its impressive steelhead and salmon populations, this region offers anglers a unique experience that rivals the more renowned rivers along the West Coast. Jackson takes us on an exploration of the famous steelhead rivers such as the Kalama, Cowlitz, and Lewis. Discover the charm of these waters and learn how to optimize your fishing trips by timing them precisely and avoiding the bustling crowds. Jackson also shares his insider tips for surface and subsurface steelhead techniques, alongside strategies for hooking coho salmon—often thought of as exclusive to Alaska. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of the southwest Washington fly fishing scene and get ready to plan your next adventure in this often-overlooked fishing paradise. Episode Chapters with Jackson Golik on Fly Fishing Southwest Washington 4:46 - Jackson shares how he got into fly fishing. He was born into the fly fishing world, as his father guided on the Bow River in Calgary. He became familiar with the industry early on and worked as a shop assistant at the Greased Line, a renowned fly shop in Vancouver, Washington. The Greased Line, which operated for about 42 years, is noted as one of the oldest fly shops in the Pacific Northwest, having started in the late 1970s. 7:01 - He tells about that time when he was introduced to Simon Gawesworth, a significant figure in the fly fishing world. This connection led to an opportunity for Jackson to work as Simon's assistant for about six months at RIO, where he handled fly line box modifications and managed their social media. 12:10 - We discuss fishing in Southwest Washington, focusing on popular rivers like the Cowlitz, Lewis, and Kalama. Jackson highlights the prolific hatchery fishery in the Kalama, but notes that rivers with more wild genetics offer opportunities for larger fish. We also touch on salmon fishing, particularly for silvers, coho, and spring chinook. 15:25 - Jackson describes coho fishing as similar to bass fishing, using heavy sink tips and flies, with the fishing done from a boat near structures like wood. The season for coho starts in early September and typically lasts through October into early November, although it's dependent on rainfall. For chinook, the peak season is around Labor Day weekend, with the best fish being bright and high-quality. Jackson notes some rivers have late runs of Chinook, like the Lewis and Sandy rivers, which receive a small run of bright fish around late November to early December. 21:16 - We explore the state of steelhead fishing in Southwest Washington compared to the Olympic Peninsula. Jackson notes that while the OP rivers have experienced closures, the Southwest Washington rivers have remained consistently open, though they receive less publicity. 26:40 - We ask him about winter steelhead fishing in November and December. Jackson recommends focusing on rivers with consistent hatchery plants for better chances, specifically mentioning the Washougal River, known for its strong Skamania stock fish and challenging whitewater conditions. 30:11 - In fishing the Washougal River during winter, Jackson mentions using heavy sink tips and typical winter flies such as leeches, with T-14 being a common choice for getting closer to the fish. Jackson notes that while the Washougal River also has good runs of summer fish, the approach varies, with summer steelhead sometimes eating dry flies. 31:50 - We briefly talk about the impact of the 1980 Mount St. Helens eruption on the Toutle River system. Jackson shares that he wrote a paper in college about the logging that happens in the Toutle system, highlighting the management strategy of continually raising the dam to contain sediment. 34:08 - We talk about the Cowlitz River, known for its heavy planting of hatchery steelhead, which makes it a prime location for fishing, especially if you're looking to take home fish to eat. 36:23 - Jackson owns a 1979 fiberglass Avro boat and a smaller Aire puma boat, which is about 11.5 feet long. He appreciates the fiberglass boat for its quietness and durability, noting that it can be easily repaired and modified with fiberglass and epoxy. 38:21 - We dig into steelhead fishing on the Kalama River during peak season, from mid-February to late April. He shares strategies for dealing with crowded conditions, such as knowing familiar faces and sections of the river preferred by frequent fishermen. Timing is crucial; sometimes it's better to fish later in the day when conditions improve. 43:30 - Jackson mentions that the Kalama, Cowlitz, and Lewis rivers are accessible, with numerous put-ins and take-outs available, making them great fisheries. He highlights the Kalama River, which stretches about 60 to 70 miles and originates from an aquifer, offering a long drainage. 45:19 - We discuss steelhead fishing in the region around Battle Ground, which is near the East Fork of the Lewis River, known for its historical record of large fish, specifically a 38-pound steelhead caught in the 1980s. Although the gene pool for such large fish has diminished, there are still opportunities to catch steelhead in the 20-pound range. 47:40 - Jackson highlights the Cowlitz as the best for swinging flies due to its consistent fish population, akin to salmon fishing, where fish arrive reliably mid-February each year. However, it faces heavy fishing pressure, both from conventional and fly fishers, with a significant number of boats and guides present, given the river's substantial hatchery support. 49:09 - Jackson mentions that the Lewis River has a program that supports natural spawning of wild steelhead, which has improved the run size over the past decade, attracting more anglers. Despite the predominance of wild fish, the presence of a few brood stock fish allows for some to be kept. The river is becoming busier with more anglers due to these improvements. The Kalama River, on the other hand, is known for drift boat and raft fishing, making it more competitive due to its smaller size. Anglers there often have to strategically time their fishing to avoid overcrowding and maximize their chances of catching fish. Jackson notes that the fishing dynamics in Southwest Washington are varied, with different runs and genetic variations of fish occurring throughout the year. 51:17 - Jackson recommends several local clubs and shops as valuable sources of information. He mentions the Salmon Creek Fly Fishers and the Clark Skamania clubs, highlighting their extensive knowledge due to longstanding members. Additionally, he suggests the Portland Fly Shop as a prime resource, noting that most staff have guided in the area and have considerable expertise. 52:38 - He shares his recent fishing experience on the Kanektok River, describing it as epic for Chinook fishing. We also talk about other notable locations for Chinook runs in Alaska, emphasizing the thrill of swinging flies for kings. 55:54 - Jackson expresses interest in a trip to Sudan for fishing Giant Trevally and Triggerfish, although plans changed due to the war, opting instead for an opportunity in Alaska. 58:24 - We ask Jackson for tips for a successful steelhead fishing. He emphasizes the importance of consistency in casting, advising beginners to focus on achieving a consistent casting distance and angle to increase their chances of success. He suggests that 40 feet of running line is typically sufficient. Consistency in fishing technique, rather than the number of fish caught, determines a good fishing day. He also recommends using longer leaders and heavier flies to ensure the fly sinks quickly. 1:05:14 - We quickly ask about his music preference. Jackson uses Spotify to listen to indie rock, describing it as having a synth tone and a slower tempo. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/689
In this episode, host Zach Urness talks about a collection of stories including the start of winter recreation season, the controversial drawdowns at Green Peter Reservoir and some fun winter adventures including skiing, hiking at Silver Falls and celebrating "yurtmas" by touring Christmas lights at the Coast. The podcast features interviews from KLCC in Eugene and considers why a plan to save endangered salmon has become so controversial, while other topics include new waterfall hiking loops at Silver Falls State Park, record setting coho salmon runs and one of the state's most epic Christmas lights displays.
Active NorCal's Zach O'Brien and Brien O'Brien (BOB) break down the massive storms that slammed Northern California recently, including the early opening of ski resorts and significant rise of lakes. They also discuss the announcement of new wolf packs in NorCal, including the wolves found in Lassen Volcanic National Park, before debating the alien testimony in Congress and how it changes our outlook on Lemurians.Then, they discuss the NorCal Notes of the week, including the vote on Palisades Tahoe expansion, Coho salmon returning to the Upper Klamath Basin, the controversial hunt of barred owls, and the successful removal of AT&T's cables out of Lake Tahoe.Finally, they end the podcast by discussing fun things they did in Sacramento last week, before debating which movie filmed in NorCal they should review next.
For decades, Coho salmon were turning up dead in urban streams the Pacific Northwest. The salmon would stop swimming straight, and then die before they had a chance to spawn. Researchers worried that unless they figured out the cause, the species would eventually go extinct. Enter a formidable crew of biologists, modelers, community scientists, environmental chemists. After eventually ruling out the obvious suspects — things like temperature, oxygen levels and known toxins — researchers eventually zeroed in on a prime suspect: chemicals in tires. But the question remained: Which one? If you liked this episode, check out our other episodes on satellites monitoring emissions and how air pollution could create superbugs.Want to hear more environmental stories or science mysteries? Tell us by emailing shortwave@npr.org!Listen to every episode of Short Wave sponsor-free and support our work at NPR by signing up for Short Wave+ at plus.npr.org/shortwave.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
Rick Graybill of Wenatchee’s Hooked on Toys joins Joey & Nelly to talk about Steelheads and coho in the upper Columbia. Northwest Outdoor Report brought to you by Les Schwab Tires. Weldcraft Wheelhouse: Scott Haugen of ScottHaugen.com joins the guys to talk about some late fall blacktail hunting! Three River Marine Really? Where? We are talking about Ducks, Bucks, Bulls & Coho!
Next week marks the 15th anniversary of the European Coffee Symposium (ECS), set in the effortlessly cool city of Berlin, Germany. Alongside ECS, we're thrilled to be launching the Coffee & Hospitality Expo – two landmark events coming together in one of Europe's most dynamic coffee capitals.This gathering is an opportunity to dive into the latest market insights, create new business connections, and celebrate the exceptional people shaping the European coffee scene.And, to get us excited for our trip to Berlin, today we're exploring the city's thriving specialty coffee scene and how it has evolved over the past decade. We'll hear from some of Berlin's standout specialty operators – Ralf Rueller, Founder, The Barn, Sophie Hardy, Co-founder, Annelies and Distrikt Coffee and Kresten Thøgersen, Founder, Father Carpenter.Check out our guide to the city's best coffee hotspots on the COHO website.Credits music: "30 and Alone" by Lexie in association with The Coffee Music Project and SEB CollectiveTune into the 5THWAVE Playlist on Spotify for more music from the showSign up for our newsletter to receive the latest coffee news at worldcoffeeportal.comSubscribe to 5THWAVE on Instagram @5thWaveCoffee and tell us what topics you'd like to hear
Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/674 Presented By: Togiak River Lodge Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/togiak George Krumm, editor of Fish Alaska Magazine and all-around fishy dude, is going to share his experience on Alaska grand slam catching all five salmon species in the same day on a recent trip to the Togiak River. You're going to find out which technique he used to make it happen; where some of the other great trips are around Alaska and things you should be thinking about; and what he thinks is the best thing to help turn around the Chinook decline for the Pacific rim. Plus you're gonna found out how you can plan your Alaska trip easily with a resource at Fish Alaska Magazine. Episode Chapters with George Krumm on Alaska Grand Slam 3:06 - George began his journey into fly fishing when he was about seven years old. His dad gave him a small vice and showed him how to tie flies. The very first fly he tied was a gray hackle peacock. George became truly passionate about fly fishing when he started catching fish with the flies he had tied himself. 5:08 - He shares a bit about how he began his career at Fish Alaska. Melissa Norris and his brother, Marcus, founded both Fish Alaska and Hunt Alaska magazines. For Fish Alaska, George primarily writes about fly fishing. Additionally, they have a "Fly of the Month" column, which is sponsored by Mossy's Fly Shop. 8:12 - George first connected with the Larsen brothers, who own the Togiak River Lodge, during his visit in 2022. His goal was to explore Chinook fishing and write a story about it. Unfortunately, the trip wasn't very successful due to poor water and weather conditions. Despite this, George believes that the Togiak River is a standout location for Chinook fly fishing, as it still boasts strong runs of fish in various sizes. 11:48 - George visited the lodge in mid-August this year, aiming to catch coho salmon on a fly. He successfully caught all five species of Pacific salmon—Chinook, coho, sockeye, chum, and pink salmon—in a single day on a fly rod. His cousin Tom achieved this feat twice in one week. 13:39 - He describes their success, noting that on an average day, he and Tom caught over 75 salmon of various species. Although their main goal was silvers, they caught multiple types of salmon, with the King salmon being the most challenging to catch at that time of year. Interestingly, they managed to achieve a "grand slam" of catching various salmon species by accident. 15:40 - We discuss sockeye salmon, which are less talked about in freshwater fishing. George mentions significant runs in areas like Naknek and Kenai. Sockeye are valued for their red meat and while they usually feed on plankton in the ocean, they can become territorial and bite more when in large groups. For Chum salmon George mentions that they are strong fighters, often leading to broken rods, though they might not look impressive. Pink salmon are smaller and change color quickly, causing them to be underrated, but fresh pinks are tasty, similar to trout. 20:31 - George enjoys the methodical aspect of spey casting, especially for winter steelhead, where catching even one fish is rewarding. He contrasts this with the excitement of fishing in the Togiak River, where large fish are caught more frequently. 26:47 - George highlights the Togiak River Lodge's multiple packages for anglers. He also notes an important change in their policy: during the first few weeks of the fishing season, the lodge will limit the number of anglers from 24 to 14. This adjustment is aimed at providing a better experience for those specifically interested in fishing for King salmon. 27:34 - We dig into the evolving perspectives on fishing practices in Alaska, emphasizing a shift away from the traditional "whack them and stack them" mentality towards more sustainable approaches. George highlights the importance of targeting abundant fish species such as sockeye, pink, and coho salmon, while questioning the necessity of taking large quantities of fish home. Our conversation highlights the need for anglers to adapt to changing times and prioritize sustainable practices. While Alaska has been perceived as having unlimited fish supplies, current trends suggest a need for caution and conservation. 33:36 -We discuss the current state of fly fishing and the associated challenges in different regions, including Alaska and the Skeena system. Fishing restrictions, such as closures on Chinook fishing, are not only happening in Alaska but in other areas as well. 38:50 - George recounts spending extensive time fishing on the Kenai River and now frequently visits the Naknek River for its excellent rainbow trout fishing opportunities. He also highlights the overlooked potential of stillwater fishing around Anchorage and the Kenai Peninsula. He notes that many lakes in Alaska are stocked with fish and, unlike in the lower 48 states, they are not heavily fished. This means that these lakes often contain multiple age classes of fish, some reaching up to 30 inches long. 43:53 - The Fish Alaska website provides a free trip planning service. This service allows users to input information, after which they receive details and recommendations about where to go. George explains that the service typically recommends lodges or outfitters in the area of the user's intended destination. Additionally, when users submit their information, it is shared with these recommended operations, who may also contact the users to offer further assistance. 44:40 - George addresses the challenges facing the Chinook salmon fishery, particularly the commercial troll fishery in Southeast Alaska. A significant issue is that the fish caught are often not native to Alaska, and the average size of Chinook salmon along the west coast is decreasing. This size reduction is attributed to the fish being more vulnerable to overfishing in the ocean before they can return to spawn. He suggests that Chinook salmon management should be coordinated along the entire west coast, acknowledging their migratory and feeding patterns rather than being limited by political boundaries. 49:08 - George also expresses concern about the potential decline of Coho salmon in South Central Alaska, noting low returns in areas like Anchorage and Homer. He speculates that if Coho face decline, it might not be due to trawl fisheries but rather the impact of pink salmon hatchery operations. 53:43 - George clarifies the difference between trawl and troll fishing, emphasizing the impact of the former on marine environments and fish populations. 56:44 - He describes the experience of visiting the Togiak River Lodge, detailing the journey and accommodations. He also highlights the excellent food they have in the lodge. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/674
Coho salmon in urban areas were dying from stormwater runoff, but scientists didn't know why until a few years ago.A team of researchers from Washington State University and University of Washington identified a chemical found in tires as the culprit. Tires contain 6PPD, which keeps the rubber from cracking after exposure to ozone in the atmosphere. But 6PPD also reacts with ozone, forming the organic chemical 6PPD-quinone. During rainstorms, tire dust washes into rivers and streams, where 6PPD-quinone is lethal to juvenile and adult coho in small doses. It's a complex issue—with no easy fix.Caitlin Lawrence and Nathan Ivy are master's students studying aquatic toxicology at WSU's School of the Environment. Washington State Magazine science writer Becky Kramer talked with them about their separate research projects related to coho and 6PPD-quinone.Links and resources mentioned in this episodePuget Sound Starts HereWashington Stormwater CenterThe podcast music is by WSU emeritus professor of music and composer Greg Yasinitsky.Support the show______________________________________________________________________________Want more great WSU stories? Follow Washington State Magazine: LinkedIn @Washington-State-Magazine X/Twitter @wsmagazine Facebook @WashingtonStateMagazine Instagram @WashingtonStateMagazine YouTube @WashingtonStateMagazine Email newsletter How do you like the magazine podcast? What WSU stories do you want to hear? Let us know. Give to the magazine
If you've seen Coho Connie's videos, you'll remember them. Between her great goaltending, she keeps things interesting with a one-of-a-kind running commentary that really has to be seen to be believed. (To say nothing of the crow she sometimes wears on her head.)You can follow Connie on Instagram where she is @CohoConnie. And if you check out our YouTube page, we have a bonus video where Connie shows off her brand new helmet.
Tom, Joey and special guest Rob Endsley are live in studio and are joined by Josh Shalan of LuredawayGS.com to talk about Skagit coho and the sturgeon double dip, they give you this week’s Northwest Outdoor Report, in the Weldcraft Wheelhouse they talk about the reasons why they hunt and what hunting means to each of them, then they end the show with Three River Marine Really? Where?
Christine Riccio & Natasha Polis talk all things nerdy in the book, tv, movie, pop culture, fandoms, and how they integrate into their adult lives. Today they're digging into their astrological birth charts. We have special guest astrology queen Christy to help them understand all the astrological things they know nothing about. Plus they chat Midnight Sun the cartoon, the People We Meet on Vacation adaptation, the adaptation of Coho's Regretting You, and more! Main discussion starts at 39:00 Today in Fangirl Tea Time: Join Christine and Natasha for more stories about their recent life escapades. (Tea Time Starts at) Support the pod by joining the Forking Fangirls Patreon community: http://patreon.com/thoseforkingfangirls Follow the visual show on our Youtube: http://youtube.com/@thoseforkingfangirls Register to vote! https://vote.gov/ Get Christine's new novel Attached at the Hip: https://a.co/d/grmPeVy Add Attached at the Hip on Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/195790639-attached-at-the-hip Check out the Selkie Collection and get 10% off your order with code TASHAPOLIS https://selkiecollection.com/collections/all Website: https://thoseforkingfangirls.com/ Email us feedback: thoseforkingfangirls@gmail.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoseforkingfangirls/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/forkfangirlspod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thoseforkingfangirls
In this episode, I sit down with Kristin Hardwick, the Founder and CEO of CoHo, a thriving coworking space in Milford, New Hampshire. Kristin shares her journey from corporate life to photography, and eventually, the creation of CoHo—a coworking space that prioritizes community, connection, and the needs of small business owners and remote workers. Tune in as Kristin breaks down her philosophy on creating a welcoming environment and the unique challenges of opening a coworking space right before the pandemic. We talked about: How Kristin's experience in photography and corporate life influenced her approach to building CoHo. The unexpected benefits of launching a coworking space in a smaller town. The importance of building personal connections with members to foster a thriving coworking community. How Kristin has adapted her space and operations to meet the post-pandemic demand for private offices. Marketing strategies that have worked for CoHo. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Kristin's LinkedIn profile The Coworking House website Everything Coworking Featured Resources: Masterclass: 3 Behind-the-Scenes Secrets to Opening a Coworking Space Coworking Startup School Community Manager University Follow Us on YouTube
Tom and Joey are live in studio and are joined by Everett Coho Derby Chairman Dave Miller to remember ECD founder Mark Spada, they give you this week’s edition of the Northwest Outdoor Report, they are joined by Ryan lampers of Stealthyhunter.com in the Weldcraft Wheelhouse to talk about his 20-day moose hunt in Alaska, then they end the show with Three River Marine Really? Where?
Tom, Joey, and Deniese Adams are live from Harbor Marine in Everett for Salmon for Soldiers and are joined by Cary Hoffman of CNHguideservice.com to talk about Coho concepts for mid-September success, they give you this week’s edition of the Northwest Outdoor report, then they are joined by rock and roll legend Ted Nugent to talk about his support for veterans, law enforcement, and first and second amendment rights.
Thank you so much for tuning in for another episode of the Wet Net Outdoors Podcast. Please be sure to share us out there with your friends, Hit that thumbs up button, and subscribe! We can be found on Youtube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere else you get your podcast. On this weeks episode, we finally got together with Keith Archer for a part 2 episode. For those of you who don't know, Keith is a wealth of knowledge, with over 40 years of Salmon and Steelhead fishing in the Pacific Northwest. We dive in depth into some egg curing tactics including some basics and some advanced level additives to have more success targeting Chinook, Coho and Steelhead. We also dive in depth on some coon shrimp curing processes to help achieve a firmer coon shrimp, or trolling behind 360 flashers. Huge shoutout to our awesome sponsors Fishsos, Anglers Unlimited, Northwild Outdoors, Coldwater Strong, & now Talon Rods! Have a great week! #fishing #addictedfishing #columbiariver #columbiariverbar #salmon #steelhead #pnw #washington #oregon #sockeye #chinook #pacificocean #salmoneggs #bobberdown #coonshrimp
In case you haven't heard, there is a movie adaptation of the Colleen Hoover book, It Ends with Us. You probably have heard about all the drama going on between the cast though. Despite nothing being confirmed, people are talking about Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni and what maybe went down between them while filming this movie. The movie in general is also getting some hate for making people think they are going to a fun romcom only for them to be shocked when they see a bunch of intimate partner violence. Serious trigger warning for anyone who wants to see this movie, like that needs to be said.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/book-cult--5718878/support.
Tom, Joey, and Mark Boardman of Vortex Optics are joined by former Seahawks linebacker Dave Wyman of Wyman and Bob to talk about his coho experience on the Tree House donation trip and talk about the upcoming Seahawks season, they give you this week’s Northwest Outdoor Report, then they are joined by the Chairman of Salomforsoliders.org Samuel Church in the Weldcraft Wheelhouse to preview the Salmon for Soldiers tournament, then they end the show with Three River Marine Really? Where?
Where are the Coho? The boys discuss this and more in this episode. ▶ Follow Us On Instagram: http://bit.ly/addictedfishingIG ▶ Help Us GROW!