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On today's episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, I am joined by fertility expert, acupuncturist, and conscious work practitioner, Lorne Brown @lorne_brown_official. Originally a CPA, Lorne's personal health journey led him to discover the transformative power of Chinese medicine, ultimately changing his career path. Now, as a leader in integrative fertility care and the host of The Conscious Fertility Podcast, Lorne bridges the gap between science and spirituality to help individuals optimize their fertility and overall well-being. In this episode, Lorne shares how conscious work plays a powerful role in fertility, explaining how subconscious beliefs and emotional resistance can impact reproductive health. He discusses the mind-body connection, the importance of inner healing, and how shifting from stress to flow can create profound changes. Whether you're on a fertility journey or simply looking to align with your highest self, this conversation is packed with insights on conscious transformation, holistic healing, and the power of perception.   Key Takeaways: Lorne's personal journey from accountant to acupuncturist and fertility expert. How Chinese medicine and holistic healing transformed his health and career. The mind-body connection and how stress impacts fertility. How subconscious beliefs shape our reality and can either block or support conception. The power of inner work and emotional healing in reproductive health. How shifting from resistance to receptivity can improve fertility outcomes. The role of consciousness in creating meaningful change in health and life. Insights from The Conscious Fertility Podcast and how Lorne helps patients find balance through a holistic and energetic approach. Guest Bio: Dr. Lorne Brown @lorne_brown_official is a leader in integrative fertility care, blending Chinese medicine, mind-body healing, and cutting-edge therapies. A former Chartered Professional Accountant (CPA), his personal health journey led him to acupuncture, herbal medicine, and holistic fertility support. As the founder of Acubalance Wellness Centre, he introduced low-level laser therapy (LLLT) for fertility and pioneered IVF acupuncture in Vancouver. He also created Healthy Seminars, an online education platform, and hosts The Conscious Fertility Podcast, where he explores the intersection of science, consciousness, and reproductive health. Websites/Social Media Links: Learn more about Lorne Brown, visit his website hereFollow Lorne Brown on InstagramListen to Conscious Fertility Podcast For more information about Michelle, visit www.michelleoravitz.com To learn more about ancient wisdom and fertility, you can get Michelle's book at: https://www.michelleoravitz.com/thewayoffertility The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2149554308396504/ Instagram: @thewholesomelotusfertility   -------- Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care. ----- Transcript: [00:00:00]  Welcome to the Wholesome Fertility [00:01:00] Podcast. I'm Michelle, a fertility acupuncturist here to provide you with resources on how to create a wholesome approach to your fertility journey. **Michelle Oravitz:** Welcome to the podcast, Lauren. **Lorne Brown:** Hey, Michelle, glad to be together with you over whatever we call this technology. I think yours is the Riverside. Yeah, I had a good time interviewing you for my Conscious Fertility podcast, so I'm looking forward to having more conversations with you because that was a lot of fun for me. **Michelle Oravitz:** It was a lot of fun for me too. And I actually it was really, really nice. And to see that we have very similar views just on reality and health and fertility, **Lorne Brown:** Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** it was a lot of fun. And so last week actually for everybody's listening, that was the first time we actually officially met via zoom. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah. But we know each other. We're part of the, the ABORM, right? The Acupuncture TCM Reproductive Board of Medicine but yeah, [00:02:00] like the first time you and I had real conversation rather than chat conversation. **Michelle Oravitz:** Which is awesome. I **Lorne Brown:** Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** it. And I think that we're so aligned in so many ways. I think that we both love the whole bridging of science and spirituality. We're kind of nerds in that department. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** for people listening, I would love if you can introduce yourself. I know we also have, we started out with very different backgrounds. And went into acupuncture, you have like kind of a similar cause you started in accounting, right? **Lorne Brown:** Yeah, so, I am a CPA, so a Certified Professional Accountant back in the day they were called Chartered Accountants in Canada and because of health issues and having such a a response to Chinese medicine in particular eventually I, I was the, one of the controllers and tax guys at this time with ocean spray growers here in B. C. and I left that position so I could go back to school and study Chinese medicine as my second career. So that's kind of a little bit about my background. And then eventually **Michelle Oravitz:** [00:03:00] Like what made you think about doing Chinese medicine? **Lorne Brown:** I was ill. I had um, you know, back in the day, this is in the eighties and early nineties. So this Chinese medicine wasn't as available. This was before websites, right? Where you could really see what other people were doing and learning. And so I had severe gut issues, you know, diagnosis IBS, chronic fatigue, candida and you know, I got scoped through all each end and eventually and I tried different Western approaches and eventually it was the herb, Chinese herbal medicine actually that dramatically changed it so much. So, I mean, I have some memories. I did a bachelor of science first in math. That was my first thing. Then I went and did accounting in McGill. And and then I went and became a CPA, back then CA. They changed the letters for the designation. And I remember when I was at McGill I was already seeing alternative medicine doctors, in particular Chinese medicine. And I remember [00:04:00] s for the first time, how much clarity, because I had, I didn't realize how much brain fog I had. And so the clarity I had, I was in the classroom, I just realized how easy things were going in, and I was just remembering things, and I just felt like things were almost in slow motion in a good way, like a professional athlete when they can see the court. And physically, I just felt I had so much endurance, so much energy. I was just I felt great. And you know, when you've been feeling poorly for so long, That I thought that was normal. And then I got, you know, the illness was so bad while I was early days in my accounting studies at McGill. it interfered with my, my studies. It interfered my life. I almost couldn't get outta bed sometimes with the fatigue and the brain fog. And so I had an I had an aunt who was into this stuff. , I was, wasn't right. Remember, it came from Bachelor's Science Math in Duke County. I was, I think I was always open-minded. Look what I'm doing, but it wasn't kind of on my radar. And she's the one that suggested I see her Chinese herbalist. And you know, I was desperate. I was living in Montreal, Canada. She was living in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. So [00:05:00] I, I got on a plane and flew to see her person because I wouldn't know who to go see right back then. And you know, through dietary changes and herbal medicine. It, it transformed my life and funny story because, you know, I do acupuncture like you do. I always had a fear of needles, right? I never was a big fan of needles. So the first time I was getting acupuncture, the acupuncturist who treated me, I have everybody lying down, but he had me sitting up on the table. Right on the treatment table. I was sitting and he's putting these needles in me and he's like, are you okay? I guess he could see I was going a little green and I'm trying to be, you know, tough guy. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm fine. Next thing I know flop, I passed out on the table. **Michelle Oravitz:** do. **Lorne Brown:** So. Yeah. So now I receive it. I love it. Now I give it. But I did. It's a mind over matter, right? I did have that fear of needles, which is why I started with the herbal medicine. Most people like, Oh, I'll do acupuncture, but they maybe have an aversion to the herbs or the taste of the herbs. I was the other way [00:06:00] around. I got introduced to Chinese medicine through the herbal medicine. And then I was like, Oh, I'll try the acupuncture too. and, you know, I stuck with it, obviously. And, and eventually went back to school and now I can I receive it and I can give it and I have so much compassion for those who have a fear of needles, but usually if they come in and try it, they realize it doesn't feel like needles that you're getting. And now with technology, I have low level laser systems as well. So I can do laser acupuncture for those people that just cannot. Experience acupuncture because it's so stressful for them. **Michelle Oravitz:** Yeah, for sure. So that's that's one of the things or sometimes starting them out with baby needles because the baby needles are really, really, really super thin. You can barely feel it. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah, I mean, I, I mean, I just give them the acupuncture for the first time and, and they're nervous. But, you know, they let me put in one needle, then another, then a third. And that's all I'll do for the first visit for people who have a big phobia. But like you and I know, and those that have received it, it's not like getting a [00:07:00] needle at the doctor when you get a shot or blood drawn. And so you really, you know, once they're in, it takes like a minute to put them in. Then you go and tell a beautiful rest, la la land for 30 to 45 minutes on the table. So all worth it for most. **Michelle Oravitz:** totally worth it. For sure. So talk about why you got into fertility specifically. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah, and I'll keep it short, but it was, it was never my intention. My intention was to treat gut issues, digestive issues, because that's what brought me to the medicine. So I thought I'd be, and that's what I set out to do, IBS, irritable bowel syndrome, Crohn's, colitis, severe bloating, constipation, diarrhea, that kind of stuff is what I thought I would be seeing. and I did see a lot of that, and in our medicine, when we treat, we do a very Detailed history and we treat holistically so we can't just focus on the gut health just like for fertility We don't just focus on the women's ovaries, right? We focus holistically and so most people that come to health professionals back then And [00:08:00] I started in 2000 and now still are female And so I'd always do a menstrual history and the the menstrual history is such a great guide for health, right? We can get so much information. That's why I prefer treating women over men. I treat both women who are menstruating. Help me diagnose them from a Chinese medicine perspective because I get so much information from their cycle history. And so as I was treating their bloating in their IBS, or they're alternating between, you know, constipation and diarrhea, or even colitis and Crohn's symptoms. They noticed their PMS went away, they noticed their menstrual pain went away, their irregular bleeding, the spotting, all those things changed. So I became popular. with women's health in general. So I was just doing women's health. So I was seeing people with perimenopause and menopausal symptoms and with painful periods. That was what I was seeing. And back then, again, the web wasn't a popular thing. I was advertising a magazine with a focus in women's health. And this woman who found me was going through an IVF and she was [00:09:00] going to see one of our colleagues, Randine Lewis, in Houston. So I'm in Vancouver and she flew to Houston to see Randine because this was before Zoom. And she, Randine told her she needs regular acupuncture at least once a week so she's going to enter herbal medicine. So she has to find somebody local because it wasn't reasonable or cost effective for her to fly weekly to Houston from Vancouver, right? Nobody was focusing on fertility, but she found me women's health. So she came to my clinic and told me her story and asked if I'd be willing to follow Randine's acupuncture prescriptions and her herbal suggestions and do that for her in Vancouver. And I kind of said cheek cheekily, but in a funny way, in a cute way, as a non aggressive way. So basically you want me to be like a monkey. And put the points where Randine tells you, tells me, and prescribe the herbs where Randine how Randine tells me. She goes, yeah. And I'm like, I'm in. That sounds great. I get to learn from somebody. Because what our audience doesn't know, [00:10:00] Randine was already focusing with fertility. And she had already had this draft book, which came out shortly after, called The Infertility Cure. First of many of her books. So, I thought it was a great opportunity to be able to learn from somebody with more experience and, and not have responsibility to the outcome. And so, and then women who are going through IVF and struggling with fertility, they talk and By 2004, I only would take reproductive health issues. That was all I would take because I was too busy, and I started hiring associates and training them because I couldn't handle the load myself. Now, here we are recording this in 2025 I have multiple associates in our clinic. And that do focus on fertility and myself personally, I still see a lot of reproductive health. But I'm so into the conscious work now. Cause I have low level laser therapy that we use for fertility, but I use that for so many other things. Brain health pain, pain injury. And I do a lot with pure menopausal symptoms. So, I would say, and half my practice, when I look at my [00:11:00] schedule is conscious work. Right? Is that mind body work? Half my practice is that. They still get acupuncture and low level laser therapy as part of the treatment but they're coming in with, I'm wanting belief change work. and I do see a lot of reproductive health, but I see everything now. So it's, it's kind of gone full circle. Because of the conscious work, because conscious work is my passion. And so whoever comes in the door that's looking for change, they may want a relationship change or want a relationship, job changes, finances. They want a baby, they want a healing. Basically, they want to be happy and they realize they can't get it from the outside. So they're looking for help on the inside to have that transformation. And that's why we use it for fertility because it's such a powerful tool when you can heal the mind, the body follows really well. **Michelle Oravitz:** Yeah. No doubt. So talk about the conscious work, specifically. What does it entail? Mm-hmm **Lorne Brown:** Yeah, well, I'm trained also as a clinical hypnotherapist, and I've done a lot of what they call energy psychology modalities. So I'm trained in [00:12:00] Psyche, emotional freedom technique, Bankstein healing method, you know, energy type medicine. But from the clinical hypnotherapy perspective and what I would call conscious work, it's inner work. It's waking up to your true nature. It's waking up to what some people would call higher self, what they would call consciousness witness consciousness. You'd have to be open and appreciate that there's more to this world than meets the eyes. And so we have a Newtonian science world, what's considered a materialistic world, and those are things that we can kind of measure. And then there's the science, the new science called quantum physics. Which understands there's so much more to this reality than what we see and when you have these shifts inside it has your your perception to the world You see it differently and you can think of it as if you live in a building Let's say your your life is a building, you know On the first floor if that's where you live, you're going to have a certain perspective of what your neighborhood is And it's going to be very limited because you can only see from the first floor. And as you move up, if the 20 store [00:13:00] building, if you live above 10 and you start to live on the 15th floor, you have a different perspective of what is in your neighborhood than the person who lives on the first floor. And so conscious work is about kind of getting to a different perspective. I we know, you know, through so much more research now that we perceive the world. Through the lenses of our subconscious programming, you know, and so how we see the world is through the lens of our subconscious and that subconscious programming is is inherited and imprinted on us inherited like literally few generations before we know this through um, research on Holocaust survivors and their children and grandchildren. And we know this through the study, the cherry blossom study on mice were stressed and traumatized and it got passed down to their grand pups. I won't go into the study because it's **Michelle Oravitz:** and DNA. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah, it gets tagged. It's not a genetic mutation, it's a tag. So it can, one generation get tagged, and one generation you can heal it. So, you see the world through the lens of your subconscious, and that lens is based on your history. And [00:14:00] so, I heard a teacher of consciousness once say, Reality's white snow, let's pretend that. And then you have red glasses. I have orange glasses. Some of the listeners have blue, green, white, yellow. We're all seeing white snow, but we're all experiencing it, perceiving it differently because of our lens. And if we want to have a different experience to see that reality, we got to change our lens. **Michelle Oravitz:** Yes. **Lorne Brown:** You know, or we're both fans of Joe Dispenza, right? We both run retreats, and **Michelle Oravitz:** we're Joe Dispenza groupies. **Lorne Brown:** yeah, I like, I like his work. I like his retreats and his books. And in his book, Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself, I think it's where he said it. I've read all of his books and been to many retreats, but I really liked how he said your personal reality is based on your personality. And you can't have, how do you expect to have a different reality if you bring your current personality into your future? You're gonna get the same thing. Right. And so this is about having that shift because, you know, we're going kind of into a rabbit hole here, but if you're open for it, **Michelle Oravitz:** No, I'm totally open for it. And my, my listeners are used [00:15:00] to it, **Lorne Brown:** okay, you know, God, I see they're allowed to, or Gandhi, I've seen this quote attributed to both, but it kind of goes like your beliefs lead to your thoughts, which lead to your feelings, which lead to your actions and behaviors, which lead to your habits. which leads to your destiny. Basically they're saying is your behaviors are always congruent with your beliefs. And when they conflict the program, the belief is going to win. And if you do a behavior long enough, it becomes your habit. So it becomes a reality. So we often want to go and work on the outside world. We often want to go work on a behavior, but the behavior stems from a belief or a program often unconscious. And so we'll self sabotage ourselves, even though we really want to lose that weight. We go and we diet, we exercise, but that's a behavior. But if you have a program that, you know, I'm not beautiful, right, or I'm not thin enough, then the subconscious wants congruency, and it will find a way to sabotage that. [00:16:00] Consciously or unconsciously, it'll happen. And so rather than going to work on the behavior, we go to work on the program, and then it flows down, and the behavior changes naturally. **Michelle Oravitz:** It's so true. And it's almost that, you know, that saying whether you think whether you Think you can or can't  **Lorne Brown:** you're right. Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** it's just a matter of what we choose and I think the key with this is that people don't even realize It's almost like they're so asleep in the matrix **Lorne Brown:** Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** is such a great movie, by the way, because of that reason, it really shows us how, if we just knew that that was the case, **Lorne Brown:** Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** had those beliefs and it impacts our reality, then we would make a difference. But I think the problem is, is not even knowing that it's even there. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah. Well, of course, and I don't know if the age has changed, but it was my observation that around age 40, people start to realize that they need to do their inner work. the drug doesn't work anymore. The antidepressant isn't working, [00:17:00] or they're in a third relationship. It's not working. They change cities. Like it's not working. The changing the outside is only temporary. So somewhere around 40, maybe it's younger now cause things seem to be speeding up, but around age 40 people come in there and they don't know what they're looking for, but they know they're looking for it. And you and I have language for this, right? They're looking for inner work, conscious work, but they kind of know that I know by getting a new relationship, it's not going to help. I got it. Something's not right. about me. And I, you know, I'm going to give an example because the relationship one comes up a lot in my practice when people come and see me. and I share this as an example of self sabotaging programs and why I like the conscious work. And we can talk about how this plays with fertility as well and baby manifestation. This actually wasn't my patient, but it was somebody who shared it. And I loved this case so much because it, it really is a great explanation of of belief change. So She was around 45. She was a lawyer and she had become aware that she was somehow sabotaging relationships. No matter what [00:18:00] relationship she went in, like she would find some not such great guys in her opinion, but she actually realized she found some good guys too. But for some reason, even she knew there was a button and she, she knew she shouldn't push that button, but she would push the button even in her mind when she knew this isn't going to work out. And the, and the relationship would collapse. So at her clinical hypnotherapy session, She got regressed and in this regression, she's experiencing herself as a four year old and she's remembering her mom is making dinner for her and her older sister was around seven and she promises the girls that they get popsicles if they eat all their dinner. So her older sister. Eats her dinner fairly quickly and gets a popsicle. And she, she being for living in that theta brainwave living in the moment, it's not eating quickly. And all of a sudden she sees her sister with a popsicle and she goes, I want a popsicle and her mom's tired end of day. And she angrily says, no, you haven't eaten your dinner. You don't get your dinner to you. You don't get your popsicle till you finish your [00:19:00] dinner. And it probably wasn't said in a loving way. And this triggered the four year old. And like many four year olds, she got. You know, she had a little four year old temper tantrum, and that set off her mom, and then she got sent off. To her room without dinner and without popsicle. And in her story, she's thinking in her dialogue that mommy likes, mommy likes and loves my sister more than me. Mommy doesn't love me. I'm not lovable. And she has this aha moment when that program really started for her. I'm not lovable. Now, remember I said the subconscious and the conscious want congruency. The heart and mind want congruency. When it conflicts, the heart, the shen, the subconscious, wins. And so, she would have a relationship, and if this guy was doting and loving her, her subconscious goes, that's not who we are, we're unlovable. And she would Consciously or unconsciously sabotage the relationship. So in hypnotherapy work, we're able to bring her 45 year old self back and reparent doing her [00:20:00] child work and shift that. And I often say in my practice, I have a an approach. Notice, accept, choose again. Notice everything is neutral and we give it meaning. Neutral. She just did not get a popsicle. Neutral. The meaning she gave it was I'm not lovable, right? And children that are in theta, meaning they're in, they're sponges. They don't have that prefrontal development to discern things. They just take things in and we don't know why. But you know, if you're a product of divorce, which a lot of people are It's usually for the children. It does some form of scarring, subconscious scarring, right? Because the children feel like they're responsible. It's their fault. So guilt shows up or shame shows up. Not safe. So all these programs come up and when I distill them down, I see people that are worth hundreds of millions of dollars. I see people that can't afford my services, right? And based on what they get paid, right? And when you distill it down, the stories are, can be very different, but when you still it down, it's I'm not enough, right? I'm not lovable. [00:21:00] I'm not pretty enough. I'm not thin enough. I'm not smart enough. It's kind of, I'm not enough when you distill it down, whether you're worth a couple hundred million or whether you're scraping things together. So. Notice everything is neutral. We give it meaning. And when we believe in the story, we make it real. So this is not to believe in the story. And that's kind of that materialistic side, right? And we use these tools conscious work to go in and clean up the operating system. And here's an important point I want to share with our listeners is You know, you have this hardware, but the hardware functions depending on the software and I got multiple stories like this, but I'll give you a couple, you know, they have done research on those with multiple personality disorders and depending on the personality, right? One will need reading glasses. One will not. One's blood tests will be diabetic and the other one will not. Right? I mean.  **Michelle Oravitz:** to orange juice. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah, when we allergic not so same physical body. So from a journalistic point of view, this makes no sense, but from a quantum perspective, it does. Right. And and we've heard people [00:22:00] with near death experiences. I've, I've heard through a colleague of one before, and I just, I'd met one recently, actually, and she's written a book on it, Anita, where she, yeah, it's great, right? **Michelle Oravitz:** Yeah. Yeah. **Lorne Brown:** So, you know, her story is she. Developed cancer, funny thing, not so funny, but she always had a fear that she would die and get cancer. So, you know, you got to be careful where you're putting your focus, right? She did everything she could to not get cancer. She got cancer and she was ridden with tumors and she's in the hospital and her husband's by her side. And the story goes that she goes unconscious. So they tell her, say goodbye. She, this is it. She's, you know. She's going to die and she's got, they got on some medications too, I believe for pain relief. And I think it was a day or two later, she opens her eyes and she has an experience of a near death experience where we won't go into it today where she sees other. Family members are beings, but not the personalities like she just knew who they were, but she realizes she's coming back and she knew she was coming back [00:23:00] different. It wasn't like a full lobotomy, like 180 degree turn, but she had a personality change, right? And she knew her cancer is gone. And when she woke up, she tried to convince her husband her cancer was gone. And he's like, you know, no, you know, they got the doctors. She was able to re Share stories of conversations that they had outside when she was in the coma in another room. She forbade him. She could, you know, she knew what the doctor's shoes look like, right? Everything. So **Michelle Oravitz:** that's that bird's eye view. **Lorne Brown:** she was outside the body, but her cancer went away without any medication. After that, she woke up from a coma. And her cancer just resolved herself. So there's that personality. So her personality changed and her physical body changed, right? Because of this and going back to our friend Joe Dispenza, Dr. Joseph Dispenza and your listeners check out his book. They're supernatural the placebo and breaking the habit of being yourself. That's a really good one breaking the habit Right. It's a good one to start with. He talks about you can use matter to change matter, which can be slow. That's for our fertility patients taking supplements. [00:24:00] That's IVF, that's diet matter, change matter, or you can use energy to change matter, which can be spontaneous. Like what happened with Anita, which when her cancer went away, right? Is it went away pretty quickly, right? **Michelle Oravitz:** There's people with well, we see it all the time at Joe Dispenza's work stage four cancer. It just, it goes away. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah. So that's working with a different, dimension of yourself, right? If you want to speak. So the conscious work that I use is how to tap into that, how to tune into it. And it came from my experience, right? I, I've learned this and developed this from many people I've studied with. And I'm a kinesthetic learning. That's learner. That's why I've learned psych KFT, Marissa peers, rapid transformational therapy, Ericksonian The guy just. Love it, right? I think it started from insecurity. Not enough, not smart enough. So I kept on doing things which brought me my success outside, but inside it wasn't enough. So I kept on learning and learning and learning. And then eventually, you know, you're brought to your knees, which I was. debilitating anxiety. And I go in and do the [00:25:00] inner work and I have the transformation. And then I'm kind of at peace. Don't feel like I need to do too much. But now there's this new drive, this overflowing, wanted to share. It's a different feeling. It's comes from peace. It doesn't exhaust you. Right. And so I think on the outside, if I was looking at me, I looked. Similar as in go, go, go. Always learning, always doing right. But I was coming from fear and lack for many years, my doing and stuff. So my doing just got me more fear and lack because I could never feel that void. Now I'm going, going, going, but it's coming from feeling more whole and complete and I'm not attached whether I do it or not, right? I'm not attached to it so much. And but yet I'm still doing it. But now I feel Charged by it. **Michelle Oravitz:** That's so great. I mean, don't you see the yin and the yang too, in a lot of this **Lorne Brown:** Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** the harmony, the **Lorne Brown:** Yeah, and you got to keep going into the end So you then you have the young and it happens, right? So, you know, I go inside I become quiet and and then all of a sudden all this [00:26:00] activity and inspire thought comes through me And then I I want to go in and see if I can manifest it, right? **Michelle Oravitz:** Yeah. And everything kind of goes in pulses, you know, there's a, there's pulses, even with like experiences that we have in life, there's ebbs and flows. I think that we get impatient or we think that it's going to be forever, but nothing lasts forever. It's like the good news and the bad news, nothing lasts forever. **Lorne Brown:** Right? Yeah, it's the good news and the bad news. Yeah, in that sense, don't be attached. **Michelle Oravitz:** Yeah, true. **Lorne Brown:** Which is a practice. **Michelle Oravitz:** it is, and it's something that the ancients have been telling us this whole time. They've told us to go within, they've told us not to be too attached, to learn from nature, to learn from what's around us. to flow, flow with it. **Lorne Brown:** And a tip for our listeners, because again, I teach what I've experienced. Many people may be going, well, I've read these books and I know all this stuff and I haven't had a shift. I was that guy where I had read everything and took courses, but I didn't do the process work. I, I conceptually understood it. I could teach it. But I wasn't living it. And it wasn't until I actually did the process work that the [00:27:00] transformation started happening, the awakening started happening. And so that's kind of, you know, with my patients, when I work with them, they want to get in the head and understand, which I love. We got to understand when you understand the why behind it, they say that the how becomes easier. The why is, you know, how does it work? And then the how is, what are you going to do? But if it's just an intellectual discussion you'll have a mind shift. But you won't have a trait change. And what's the difference? A mind shift is that temporary, you feel excited, this makes sense. It feels excited, but it's a shift. It's like when you pull an elastic band apart, it's neuro elasticity, it stretches out, this feels good. But within an hour or two, or a day or two, it goes back to its normal shape. So you haven't made a neuroplastic change, you just made a mindset shift. And if you do that daily, multiple times, it eventually become neuroplastic. And what I mean neuroplastic is if you stretch out a piece of soft plastic and you let go, it stays stretched. So that's the trait change. So repetition or doing many things that create a mind shift regularly often will give you [00:28:00] neuroplasticity changes, right? That hold becomes a trait. That's that, you know, do certain actions over and over again. So that's one way. But then there's other. faster ways to do neuroplastic changes, which doesn't just require repetition. That is one of them, but there's other processes I use. Part of my hypnosis practices and other energy psychology tools is what they're often called now to help make that neuroplastic change, not just from repetition, but from doing these Process work and we call it process work because it's not it's not done. It's a it's a bottom up process versus a top down So i'm not a counselor a therapist. That would be somebody who's doing a top down Let's talk about this and there's some benefit to it. The clinical hypnotherapist perspective is a bottom up meaning Your tyra box said this once your issues are stuck in your tissues So when you have these emotions rarely does somebody say I feel it in my head It does happen once in a while. Most people feel it in their throat, in their chest, in their stomach. It's in your cells. And we got science to talk about [00:29:00] how the microbiome changes with stress and emotions. **Michelle Oravitz:** images of people, all people that were angry, all people that were sad. And they would notice that it would light up in certain spots consistently in the body, which is really fascinating. You can probably find it online. **Lorne Brown:** cool. Absolutely. And, you know, we know like we got serotonin receptors in the gut. Now the heart's being known as a, as a second brain may have more what the read off of it more than the brain and, and then dispensa and heart math talk about heart brain coherence. So we're. You know, I look at it this way is, you know, back in the day of Galileo and Newton, the days when we thought that the sun revolved around the earth and the earth was flat, it was hard for society to shift and science to shift, right? Cause everything we understood the way we could look, it was like, no, no, the world's flat. It look at it, you can tell, look, look outside, doesn't look round or look, look, you can tell that. the sun is going around the earth. Look in the sky. It's so obvious. And you [00:30:00] can't tell me the earth is spinning. We would feel it, right? And now today, most people realize that the earth is round, not flat. There are so few flatters out there. They realize the earth is spinning and that the earth goes around the sun. But there's your perception, you know, there's the first floor view. From my view, the sun is going around the earth. I see it rise and set, right? I can see it float around. I'm standing still. I'm pretty sure about it, but that's a illusion. It's not a complete correct perception on that first floor when you go to a higher floor. So in this case, when we go into space, We can see that it's actually the earth that goes around the sun and the earth is round. And then if we go to a higher floor, we're going to probably get a whole other understanding of what's going on in this human experience and purpose and what's your individual purpose. And people have spoken of it. I haven't tapped into that aspect. I've had those. Non medicated, so non psychedelic experiences where I've tapped into profound peace, where I've tapped into bliss.[00:31:00]  I've also, through psychedelics, I've only done it once, so I'll never do it again, where I tapped into my shadow, right? Accelerated my journey, but I wouldn't wish that upon anybody, going into my shadow work unprepared. **Michelle Oravitz:** 'cause if you, you have to be ready for it. That's **Lorne Brown:** I wasn't ready for it. I, I, I cheated. I cheated with psychedelics. And it put me into my shadow grateful now because and here's a litmus test for myself. So I share this with the listeners as well. If you. don't like your life now, then I'm pretty sure you're still living in kind of a victim mode. You don't like your past and you'll have all the evidence to say why you don't like it. And if you can love your past, no matter how bad it is, then I know you love your now. I know you love your life. Why? Because You realize that who you are today is based on everything that's happened to you and you and because you love where you are today, you would never want to change your past because you love your day. Doesn't mean you want to relive your past, but you're grateful for. You don't regret it because you love today. [00:32:00] But if you hate your past, then it's I'm pretty sure you really don't love it. your day. And there are some terrible things that have happened to people. And I've seen people who've had terrible acts done to them. They would never ask to go do it again, like, but they also say, I love my life now. And so I wouldn't change anything in my past. So that shows you that's healed, right? That vibration that's healed. And so, because there's only this moment. So I find conscious work powerful when you bring it to reproductive health. I want to quote our Randine Lewis friend who wrote the book, The Infertility Cure, many books, but I remember hearing her talk about when women get into a later stage of their reproductive years, especially into their forties she said, you know, at the beginning, you know, reproduction is, it's a, it's a youth game, Jing, we call it essence Jing, it's the physicality, right? You got to have good physicality and it, and that happens with the youth. We see it around us, right? Like, a 90 year old and a 20 year old, the same person or different [00:33:00] physically. But there's something about spiritual maturity and sometimes, and this is where it kind of ties into Dr. Jo Dispenza, matter change matter. So that's the physical, the Jing. And then there's energy that can change matter. And that's what we call the Shen, the spirit tapping into that consciousness. And she says, when you're younger, you can be spiritually mature because you have such good Jing, it overrides everything. And so you can be a drug addict. And you're 20s and getting pregnant all the time, right? Poorly eating, all that stuff. And then if you get into your 40s, the physicality you want, but it's not enough, you need to, as she said, have your shit together. So that's, I'm quoting her. And sometimes that's when we see what we call miracles. It overrides the physical. And you really need to do that spiritual, the spiritual maturity happens. And so, you know, have both. Add to that her excitement with donor egg back in the day when we were having this conversation was she couldn't wait to meet the Children that were born through donor egg cycles because she [00:34:00] says currently this was way back when in early 2000 people were born with either young mothers, so physically strong, spiritually immature. They're in their twenties, early thirties or they're born with women in the early forties. physically not as strong, but spiritually more mature. So they didn't have both. She goes, but with the donor egg cycle, they get the gene from the, the egg. So a physical, physically strong, younger woman, and they are gestated. And raised by spiritually mature women. It's going to be the first time where they get both strength from the physical and strength from the spiritual. So she was quite excited. It was a different perspective to look at the Dorae. She was like, I wonder what kind of children these are going to be, right? So,  **Michelle Oravitz:** amazing. And actually it's really interesting. I don't know if you've seen this yourself, but sometimes the donor egg and the child looks like the mother. **Lorne Brown:** yeah, well, not surprising. I, I, I can't quote you on this, but I remember that they've done this in animals where you put him in a different, like, I don't know, [00:35:00] a donkey into a horse or something like, and it comes out looking more like the the mother. Like the, the horse. So, because don't forget you start as, you know, You know, a bunch of cells, right, you know, when you go in and you're grown, so you are influenced because you're, you're taking in in Chinese medicine talks about this, the emotional well being of the mother during pregnancy will impact the nervous system and the emotional personality of that child. And so what you're eating and what you're doing is helping grow that child. So we have what we call prenatal Jing, you know, for our listeners. So you get that from the mother, the father, and then. throughout pregnancy. And then postnatal Jing is what you, what happens after you're born. So your diet lifestyle. And so everything is impacting you up until you're born. That's what we'd call your genes. And in Chinese medicine called pre pre pregenetic destination, right? Prenatal, prenatal essence. I don't know if I said, if I use the right word, prenatal essence or prenatal Jing is what happens. So, yeah, I love [00:36:00] that story that she looked a little bit like the mother, not surprising. **Michelle Oravitz:** Yeah. And I've actually seen it because I, one of them she's somebody that I'm friends with on Facebook and she's also been on the podcast, Nancy Weiss. She's a spirit baby medium, is a whole other **Lorne Brown:** Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** topic. Right. But she. donor embryos and one of her daughters, she put a side by side picture of herself when she was younger and the daughter, and it was crazy. How similar they looked and then I've heard another story of somebody with freckles that she's had freckles But the mother of the donor did not and her husband did not So she always wanted a child with freckles and sure enough one of them got freckles  **Lorne Brown:** Very cute. Yeah, And that, there's so much things we don't understand and the donor egg cycle, I don't know if you've seen this, but with my patients, they only have one regret and it's a great regret that I've always heard when I've heard any regrets, I don't hear it often, but I hear it [00:37:00] and they say that the only regret I have is that I didn't do this donor egg cycle sooner because I don't, I realized I could have been with this baby I, I waited, I, you know, cause they're doing other things and understand there's a process to come to this place where you're ready to do donor a. But that's a great regret. Meaning they love this baby like from day from day one implantation, right? They have this connection. They're their mother. And and. It's, it's, that's great news, right? Cause so many people understandably have to get their head around about not using their own genetic material, right? And when you get there, when you surrender, which is part of conscious work, right? And the resistance drops and you get into flow and receptivity, the experience can be beautiful. And then regardless, even if you don't, when that baby's born, you're like, what the heck? I've been waiting for this forever. **Michelle Oravitz:** Yes. And that's another thing. So looking at the same thing from different lenses and different perspectives, and then you can kind of think, [00:38:00] okay, I may have wanted it to go this way, but perhaps it can go another way. And I'll still get the end goal, which is really to become a mother. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah, that's the end goal. And that's what we want to focus on. And from the conscious work, you know, we, we hear so often in manifestation work and in teachers of consciousness, not to be attached to form an outcome. And I'm a practical guy. So the left brain, my math background, my accounting, I'm, what I would say my feet are on the ground and my header is in the clouds, not just, you know, some people either their head in their clouds. So some people in our industry just head in the clouds. So it's hard to bring it to this earth or my old profession as a accountant, the feet are on the ground, right? I feel like I'm, I'm doing both of that.  So. I want to share this because this worked for me. And again, I often share is, you know, it's easy to say don't attach to form an outcome. That's easy to say you're not the one that has, you want this form an outcome. So it's, you can't fool the universe. You can't pretend, right? Really pretend, but you can do [00:39:00] practices. And I have found this line and I didn't come up with this. I heard this from somebody else and I was like, brilliant. And it works for me and it's worked for hundreds of other people I've worked with this or something better. Yeah. I want this or something better that had such a different vibration to it because you didn't choose your desire So I will never say you can't have you can't want this You can't desire this because you didn't choose it. I I prefer chocolate ice cream over strawberry. I can't tell you why it's just it is I just like I want chocolate ice cream. I don't really want strawberry ice cream. It's just What is, and so, but when you have a desperate need for it, that if I can't have this, then you create resistance and that impacts the field and that cannot be healthy. But if you have a desire, you want it, but you also know you're going to be okay, whether you have it or not, that doesn't add resistance to the field. And so often we, cause if you get focused on has to be this way, then you're not leaving yourself open to other things that [00:40:00] can bring you that same experience. Right? Because what does the baby bring to you? Right? You know, why do you want the baby? What's it gonna bring? What's gonna be different? What are you gonna experience? You know this kind of work, right? Because then you could get little, I call them Drift logs or kisses on the cheek from the universe where you know what it feels like you're practicing what it feels like and it's This or this or something better and then all of a sudden it that same experience comes to you But it's a different manifestation physically. So you're like, oh You know getting that feeling and so you're you're starting to get it from other places as well You're experiencing it. And when I say get it from other places I want to use that loosely is you have learned to Elicit that experience inside of you and then you're starting to see it manifested on the outside so because you don't want to have to get it from the outside because again, then you're not whole and complete This whole work is about becoming whole and complete where it's cut. You are it's It's you're making it inside of it. You're tapped into a part of yourself higher than I guess the ego self to use that language. And then it becomes fun to [00:41:00] see if you can manifest it on the outside, but you're already experiencing the feeling. Hence it's easy not to be attached because you're already feeling the joy or the love or the nurturing of something else, right? And the being of service to something else, you're already bringing up that experience. So you don't need it on the outside, but then all of a sudden you see it on the outside and that just bumps it up a bit. It amplifies it. And so you get, but it's temporary, that amplification. And then when you come back to your set point, that set point is peace and joy anyhow. So you're good. **Michelle Oravitz:** So it's unconditional peace and joy. It doesn't have a condition on it. You choose to just have that. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** you can, and I think that that's the big thing is that people don't realize that they can actually do that. They could bring it up through just meditation and different practices that they can bring it up in themselves. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah. You tap into that. And I mean, I've, I've had that. I have glimpses. I have experiences of it. And for now the language is I'm, I'm tapping into my true nature and everybody has this true nature, your witness consciousness, your higher self, you want to give it a word. [00:42:00] And. I think we might have talked about this when I interviewed you on the Conscious Fertility podcast, but it's not all positive. It feels good. You still get uncomfortable feelings. You're just not at the full effect of them. So you experience the sadness. You can experience fear. You can experience guilt or hopelessness, but it moves through you like a song on a radio, 90 seconds, and it passes through you. And then you're back to that peace. And So if you're able to not get into the story and you can experience it, you still feel these uncomfortable feelings, but there's a, there's could be an underlying peace or even beauty behind some of those feelings. You're just not at the full effect of them and they just don't last for, for weeks. **Michelle Oravitz:** Yeah. Well, the untethered soul, I think that was like a big game changer for me, that book **Lorne Brown:** Michael Singer's book. Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** Singer, he's amazing. And I think that it really was about like allowing discomfort to happen without judgment, without that kind of good or bad, that neutrality, just kind of allowing it to happen. And I have an [00:43:00] example because I burned myself. I remember it was a Friday night and I was exhausted. I was so tired. I couldn't wait to sleep. And I burned my thumb. was like, man, and it was a stupid thing. Cause I was so tired and I touched something and I knew I shouldn't have done, it was just like, without thinking. And I was like, how am I going to sleep with this burning sensation? It was like the worst feeling ever. You know, it's like when you first burn yourself. And I remember thinking to myself, maybe it was like my higher guidance, something resist the burn. So I was like, okay, let me try this. literally felt, I closed my eyes and like, I imagined myself just kind of going through the fire with my hand and almost. Accepting it, inviting it, allowing it. And literally within five minutes, the burn went away. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah, and that's the quantum. That's energy changing matter and you use the awesome word resistance Right resistance is futile to quote the Borg from Star Trek Resistance is futile for those Trekkies out there When you add resistance basically you amplify the burn you amplify the [00:44:00] suffering or take from the Buddhist quote pain is inevitable the burn hurts Suffering is optional. That's where you amplify and when you can lean into it versus it's counterintuitive because we should run away from it. We think, right? And I had that similar experience in the nineties. I I had read, I read dr joe dispenses book, but I didn't understand it. I kind of read it, but Didn't catch very much of it the first read and one day when I was studying to write the exams to become a chartered accountant, a CPA I had sadness come over me real, and it was a new thing. I wasn't something I really experienced this kind of sadness that I could recall. And I don't know why I did this, but there's again, another part of you leading the way here. I decided to, in the middle of the day, I had shared accommodations. I was living with a female and she had Yanni and the Ghetto Blaster. Back in the day, it was Ghetto Blasters. with cassettes, maybe CDs. She had some incense burners. So I lit that and there was like lavender rose in it. And I went in the [00:45:00] bath and just decided to experience the sadness. So as I'm listening to the sad music, there's some incense and candle lit in the middle of the day in the bath, hot bath. I'm so going into the sadness. Tears are rolling down my eyes. And in a moment I'm in full bliss. Like I'm like bliss. Like. But I I don't do drugs, but what except for that psychedelic experience, what, what a good high would be like, it was like, and honestly, if that's what it feels like, I understand why people would do drugs. It was just bliss. And I'm like, you know, try to be sad. Because I was like, this feels great. Can I be sad? I couldn't be sad. And it was only later I had that experience first. And then I read dispenses book. Sorry, not just Ben's, Eckhart Tolle's book, Eckhart Tolle, The Power of Now is what I meant. And the line where he says, you, when you're present, you can't suffer, because when you're regretting the past or fear in the future, you're not in the present. But if you're in the present, he says, even sadness can be turned into bliss. And when I read that line in the book, [00:46:00] I had my aha moment because I had that experience. And now the process that I do in my conscious work is about lowering the resistance. Somebody says, what are you doing? You're tuning into your, your wist witness consciousness. You mentioned Michael Singer, the untethered soul. He often says he doesn't use tools or do tools, but he kind of does. And and I have a process that I believe brings down the resistance. My experience, people, I've worked with and then you have that flow and receptivity and sometimes I just have peace. Maybe it's at, you know, if my, if I'm frustrated or fear, it's a seven out of 10, it'll come down to say a two or one. So peace in an unhappy situation still, right? But peace. So the resistance is low. Yeah, **Michelle Oravitz:** flow in that moment. And it's interesting because I, my litmus test is, are you present? Really? That's the question. I, a lot of people that I work with is, are you present? Like, cause many times when they share things that are uncomfortable for them, they're not really in the present moment. They're either [00:47:00] expecting a future or thinking about a past or something that happens. So the present moment's always the antidote. To everything. If we **Lorne Brown:** present. And that's what the mind does. It's the nature of the mind. You can't get mad at the mind for thinking because that's its nature to be like getting upset with water for being wet, right? It's its nature. So you're fighting with reality. However, there's tools to help you get present and these uncomfortable feelings can become portals to presence. Right. And you're not wallowing them and, and embellishing them, you know, you're not inflating them. You're leaning into them and observing them. So I think what's happening, my experience, my understanding to this point is when we really get practice at noticing and observing them and accepting them, I think we're tuning, we go into present moment, but we do this by tuning into our witness consciousness because the mere fact of witnessing them, not, it shouldn't be this way. It's not fair, like getting into the head. But. **Michelle Oravitz:** neutral watcher. **Lorne Brown:** get into the watching, just getting practice at watching, then you [00:48:00] tune into your witness consciousness and that nature of you is peace and joy. So you tune into it. So wherever you put your energy is what's going to grow. So if you believe in the story and you're at the effect of the story, then you're You're unconscious and you're experiencing it. You're suffering right now. You've amplified the negative situation if you're able to observe it I'm not saying you'll like it. We're not doing a spiritual bypass here, but getting practice at observing at it I believe you tune into the witness consciousness and It's nature's peace and joy and the metaphor I use for this Michelle is when we so Tell me how this lands for you and I'm curious for your audience because this for me was my another aha moment just like what's going on here because I'm having these experiences and I want to have language to share with the people I work with. So if you buy an apple, you have to consciously you Michelle ego Michelle has to pick up the apple and chew it. But after that, Michelle, you're not going release salivary enzymes in your mouth. Like I got to do that. Nobody talked to me. Nobody talked to me. I'm getting acid into [00:49:00] my stomach now. Okay, I cannot. Walk up the stairs because my intestines are now absorbing the all these B vitamins or same thing when you sleep when you go to sleep You're unconscious. You're not breathing yourself. You're not pumping your blood Or pumping your heart circulating your blood your autonomic nervous system is doing this another part your subconscious program is doing this, right? The autonomic nervous system. Well same thing. I don't believe for me that I let go of these programs or emotions anymore. Not Lauren Brown ego. Just like I don't release the salivary enzyme. All I have, I believe it's my witness consciousness does this. It's what's metabolizing these uncomfortable feelings and old programs. And how do we do this? Well, first you have to make the unconscious conscious. So that's my notice step. Everything is neutral and then we give it meaning. Don't believe in the story. When you do, you make it real. So don't take it personally. Then I have multiple tools during the accepting part to surrender to what is, not fight it. Doesn't mean you're resigned to it. Doesn't mean you like it. We're just accepting that this is how I feel right now. And you [00:50:00] accept it and you start to observe it and get really, this is a skill. You get practice at observing it. And by that observing, you tune into the witness consciousness and it is what lets go the feelings. It's what metabolizes it. So, so. It's the intelligence. And so give it a conscious divine. I don't know if it's a part of me or part. I don't know. All I know is Lauren Brown is not doing it. Just like Lauren Brown gets to choose to bite the apple. Lauren Brown gets to choose to notice, not take it personally and observe it. That's all I do. The digestion of the apple is outside of my ego, my conscious mind, the digestion and the alchemy of these emotions where I was sad, went from sad to bliss. Right or go from fear to just feeling at peace. I'm not doing that I don't believe I let go of it and this ties into Michael Singers He says that these I don't know what he calls them Sankara's or something these these these energy blocks. They're [00:51:00] there So you're not experiencing your true nature You're all blocked up with these old programs and beliefs and feelings, but when they get released they move up and out You have this space now where you get to experience yourself. So that's how he describes it. Does, I mean, the, the metaphors and the concepts, yeah, the bottom line is you got to do the work you get. That's my point. It's nice to understand. A lot of us cannot confirm or prove anything, but when you have the experience, you don't care because the experience is peace and peace. It was nice. **Michelle Oravitz:** It is. **Lorne Brown:** I'm not at the, I'm not at the state, I'm not at the stage where I can equally treat fear and, and peace or fear and love together. Like some people say you get to a place where you don't, you don't judge either. You're, they're just vibrations. You're okay. I definitely prefer peace and joy and bliss over fear, shame, guilt, just so you know. Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** really our true default **Lorne Brown:** Yeah, **Michelle Oravitz:** is in that nature and that's the Buddha [00:52:00] nature. That's kind of like **Lorne Brown:** yeah, **Michelle Oravitz:** like form and we learn the other things. **Lorne Brown:** yeah, **Michelle Oravitz:** habituated through habits. So bringing this into fertility, which I think is actually very relevant, even though, you know, it's kind of like this big grand concept, it could totally apply to going through IVF, going through the resistance. And also in the IVF, you get so focused on the numbers and the analytical, where sometimes you need to kind of. move back and allow yourself the space and the, and to really take care of your wellbeing. And that's kind of like a, my big thing about that, which always tends to kind of fall in the back burner burner. **Lorne Brown:** yeah, yeah, you're going through the journey and anyhow, so that's all thing pain is Inevitable suffering is optional. I don't think anybody would want to go through an IVF However, if you're going through it, you could go kicking and screaming and suffer through it, or you can go through it and, and not amplify the difficulties of it. And that, again, is a skill set, because [00:53:00] IVF is not easy. As you know, the research shows it's like getting a cancer diagnosis or terminal diagnosis, infertility. So I want to clarify that we're not dismissing it. The conscious work is about being authentic. It's actually about feeling your feelings. However, with a different lens and developing a skill set, a process, so you can metabolize it, right? But yeah, if you're going to go on this journey, if you're in this journey, you didn't choose it, but you're in it. And so how do you use it as, as they say in the conscious teachings, how do you make it as, how is this happening for you versus to you? What does that mean? How do I get out of victim mode? Because it doesn't serve you to being accountable, responsible. What does that mean? Accountable responsible does not mean you blame yourself or you blame other accountable. Responsible means that if you're having the experience, then that's all you need to know that you're responsible for healing it because you're the one having the experience. If you if you it wasn't your responsibility, then you wouldn't be having that experience. And there's so many experiences [00:54:00] happening around the world at one time, and each individual is only aware of so many the ones that they're aware of that are triggering them that they're experiencing. That's, that's all you need to know that that means you're accountable, responsible for that. The stuff that's happening around the world that doesn't trigger you, it's not your responsibility to do the inner work around it. **Michelle Oravitz:** Yeah. Well, I mean, I can keep talking to you forever and of course we just talked about one subject, so perhaps I'll bring you back for other ones as well. But this is this is definitely the kind of thing that I'm very interested in and I nerd out on this all the time. It really is something I think about every single day. I think that it is when you really are bringing up your consciousness and becoming more aware in your life and. Really being the creator of your life or owning that you are a creator in your life I just think it brings another element of purpose and meaning everything. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah. We all want to be happy. And we think different things outside of us will make us happy. This work brings that kind of [00:55:00] happiness. And if, to kind of wrap this part up on consciousness from the materialistic and then the quantum perspective, you know, when we, when we're unconscious, or when we're in that state of fear, we don't feel safe, right? Then our body goes into survival mode, right? The fight or flight. And so, our resources are not available for healing. creativity and reproduction because they're in survival mode, you know, blood gets drained from the, the thinking brain goes, the blood gets drained from the digestion reproduction. And so, but when you feel safe, which is what conscious work is, so here's on the material level, you free up resources for healing, creativity, reproduction. And we know this, that the unsafe hormones of cortisol. and adrenaline and epinephrine, all those things affect inflammation, the body, the effect, your immune system, your hormonal system, your gut microbiome. And when you feel safe, you're releasing the

In this insightful episode, Dr. Laura Erlich, an integrative health expert specializing in fertility and women's health, joins the conversation to explore the profound connections between stress, the nervous system, and reproductive health. Drawing on her expertise in Traditional Chinese Medicine and her extensive clinical experience, Laura shares how managing stress and regulating the nervous system can transform the fertility journey into an opportunity for healing and growth.Discover actionable strategies and holistic tools for balancing the mind, body, and spirit while navigating the uncertainties of fertility challenges. Whether through acupuncture, herbal medicine, or conscious living practices, Laura provides a roadmap to cultivate resilience, improve reproductive health, and foster conscious parenting.Key takeaways:Chronic stress affects the nervous system, hormonal balance, and fertility outcomes.Techniques like meditation, mindfulness, and acupuncture can regulate stress responses.Nutrition and lifestyle adjustments are foundational for hormonal and emotional health.Chinese medicine offers tools to align the nervous system and enhance reproductive health.Reframing stress as an opportunity for growth can empower the fertility journey.Dr. Laura Erlich Bio: Dr. Laura is a holistic wellness expert with 25 years of experience specializing in fertility, pregnancy, and postpartum care. A summa cum laude graduate of Emperor's College and a fellow of ABORM, she founded Mother Nurture Wellness in Los Angeles, helping thousands of families grow through personalized approaches combining nutrition, acupuncture, herbal medicine, and more. Co-author of Feed Your Fertility, she also teaches in the Yosan University doctoral program for women's health and provides continuing education for acupuncturists and public coaching through Healthy Seminars.Where To Find Dr. Laura Erlich: Website: https://www.mothernurturela.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mothernurturewellness/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MotherNurtureWellness/Healthy Seminars CoursesOn Demand Courses by Laura Erlich - https://healthyseminars.com/bio/laura-erlichCommunity Library Lectures by Laura Erlich - https://communitylibrary.healthyseminars.com/members/laura-erlich/How to connect to Lorne Brown online and in person (Vancouver, BC)Acubalance.ca book virtual or in person conscious work sessions with Dr. Lorne Brown Lornebrown.comConscious hacks and tools to optimize your fertility by Dr. Lorne Brown:https://acubalance.ca/conscious-work/Download a free copy of the...

In this episode of the Conscious Fertility Podcast, Lorne Brown talks with Lindsay Goodwin, a fertility support expert who integrates spiritual and energy healing techniques with traditional scientific approaches. Lindsay shares her unique experience as a spiritual fertility medium and intuitive life coach, discussing how she combines NLP, hypnotherapy, acupuncture, and energy work to help individuals overcome fertility challenges. Lindsay opens up about her near-death experience in 2017, which significantly shifted her practice and connection to spirit babies, guiding her to a holistic approach in supporting fertility and emotional well-being.Key Takeaways:Lindsay combines spiritual and scientific methods for holistic fertility support.Her near-death experience led to connections with spirit babies and in utero guidance.Shifting mindset and energy plays a key role in overcoming fertility challenges.Lindsay empowers clients to tap into their inner power and transform their fertility journey.High vibrations of joy and peace create positive changes in fertility outcomes.Where To Find Lindsay Goodwin:Website: https://garnetmoonlove.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/garnetmoonloveInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/garnetmoon_love/Fertile Frequencies Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/7usDvORdMFGzO2EILBsBju?si=kmw5An9eSh6yItwCbthl5gYoutube: https://www.youtube.com/@IntuitiveMindLabLindsay Goodwin's Bio:Lindsay Goodwin is a fertility support and reproductive medicine expert who blends spiritual energy healing with scientific methods for a comprehensive approach to health and personal growth. As a certified master life coach, NLP therapist, hypnotherapist, licensed acupuncturist, and board-certified herbalist, she empowers clients to overcome emotional and fertility challenges using both evidence-based practices and energy tools. A certified fellow in reproductive medicine with ABORM, Lindsay also serves as a spiritual fertility medium, helping individuals navigate stress, past traumas, and mindset obstacles. Her profound personal transformation, triggered by a near-death experience, led to her integrating science, consciousness, and unseen energies to foster healing and abundance. Through her work, she helps clients reclaim their lives, achieve growth, and find renewed joy and fulfillment.How to connect to Lorne Brown online and in person (Vancouver, BC)Acubalance.ca book virtual or in person conscious work sessions with Dr. Lorne Brown Lornebrown.comConscious hacks and tools to optimize your fertility by Dr. Lorne Brown:https://acubalance.ca/conscious-work/Download a free copy of the Acubalance Fertility Diet & Recipes and a copy of the ebook 5 Ways to Maximize Your Chances of...

On today's episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, Michelle and Lindsay Goodwin @fertilefrequencies explore the intersection of spirituality and fertility, discussing Lindsay's journey as an intuitive medium and healer. They delve into the concept of spirit babies, the emotional and subconscious factors affecting fertility, and the importance of surrendering to the process. The discussion emphasizes the integration of mind-body techniques and the role of emotions in manifesting desires, particularly in the context of fertility. Lindsay shares insights from her new podcast,'Fertile Frequencies,' aimed at providing support and guidance for those on their fertility journey.       Guest Bio:   Lindsay Goodwin is a fertility support and reproductive medicine pioneer who uniquely blends spiritual and energy healing techniques with scientific approaches for a truly holistic experience. With credentials as a certified master life coach for self-mastery, a certified NLP therapist, a hypnotherapist, a licensed acupuncturist, and a board-certified herbalist, Lindsay brings a unique comprehensive approach to health, personal growth, and awakening the power within.   As a certified fellow on ABORM and a spiritual fertility medium, Lindsay uniquely empowers clients to overcome health, emotional, and mindset challenges. She achieves this through a blend of evidence-based practices and energy tools, helping individuals overwhelmed by stress, life demands, and fertility obstacles to conquer anxieties, setbacks, and past traumas. Her work fosters new patterns that usher in joy, fulfillment, freedom, and the renewed energy to hope.   Lindsay's profound personal transformation further enriches her expertise. A near-death experience prompted her awakening to the divine power within us all, leading her to integrate science, consciousness, and the unseen energies for healing and abundance. Her leadership in higher consciousness, mindset, and physical health has guided countless individuals to reclaim their lives and achieve a state of harmony, growth, and fulfillment, and to know that they are so much more than just their physical bodies!   IG: @fertilefrequencies  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@FertileFrequencies Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/7usDvORdMFGzO2EILBsBju Website: https://garnetmoonlove.com/the-empowered-fertile-code-program/ Free Gift - Fertile Affirmations & Spirit Baby Connection: https://lindsay-goodwin-garnet-moon.mykajabi.com/fertile-affirmations-audio     For more information about Michelle, visit: www.michelleoravitz.com   Check out Michelle's Latest Book: The Way of Fertility! https://www.michelleoravitz.com/thewayoffertility   The Wholesome FertilityFacebook group is where you can find free resources and support: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2149554308396504/   Instagram: @thewholesomelotusfertility   Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewholesomelotus/     Transcript:    Michelle (00:00) Welcome back to the podcast Lindsay.   Lindsay Goodwin (00:03) Thank you so much. I'm so glad to be here, Michelle.   Michelle (00:06) Well, I love having you. We just had a whole long pre-talk. We just always connected. I always connected with you like from day one. So, and I love just seeing how you're progressing as a practitioner. And also as I was reading her bio, I mean, I really feel very aligned with how you see your healing, how you approach things, how you are staying in your truth with the   connection that you feel to spirit and also acknowledging how important that is in the healing process. And I think that, and we talked about this, there's this whole science versus this, it could be both. And I think that now we are moving into a place where we're actually bridging a lot of what has been shown that is sort of, it's being revealed almost like all the things that the ancients have been talking about for thousands of years.   is now starting to become revealed through science. And it's kind of interesting how that is happening right now in this time that we're living. We're starting to see a lot of things, even that the heart houses the mind through heart math, those kinds of things about coherence and how our heart is the the creative center and all of these different things, which I'm sure you're also very into. So I would love for you to just a quick   I mean, you've been on here before, but just a quick like background on you and how you got into this work and how you also in your own spirit, your own journey, connected with spirit and realized the importance of that when it comes to healing.   Lindsay Goodwin (01:51) Yeah, well, Michelle, thank you so much. And absolutely, I couldn't agree with you more. We are definitely so aligned and I absolutely love the work that you're doing as well. And it's absolutely wonderful to meet other practitioners, healers, providers that are on the same path and are here to really help so many people that need it. So thank you so much. So really about how I got started. Well, I'm actually born intuitive medium. So as a child, I...   was very in tune almost as if I could hear people's thoughts. I just knew things that were much greater than what a three year old child because I remember about back when I was about three should know at that age and I also would see energy orbs. I just would know things about people know a lot about their emotions just was very intuitive. And so then as a child I grew up I run the age of seven is generally when we start to be conditioned and that's really when   The subconscious mind really starts to form is around the age of seven So that's when I kind of lost it and I started to try to fit into society like most of us And then when I was going through a divorce in my late 30s, I had a spiritual awakening I was actually robbed at gunpoint and during that experience I had an out-of-body experience   and I met what I refer to as God or universal energy, source energy, whatever you prefer to call it. And I was wrapped in gold light. It was almost like time had stopped. And the energy that was in the room, I do remember that it was radiating from behind the gunman that had the gun to my back. So the universe was also protecting them. So it was not only protecting me, but everyone because we are all connected. We're not separate. And so   It was really interesting to me. And there's also that saying, know, the universe. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty crazy. The universe always has your back. So, you know, I see things very I see things symbolically, but also that was very literal, like that saying the universe always has your back. I had a gun in my back, but there was this energy that was protecting me and the gunman. So during that time, I was not thinking about what you normally would think you would think about when you're going to lose your life.   Michelle (03:45) That's interesting.   Lindsay Goodwin (04:10) I wasn't thinking about my family. I wasn't thinking about my dog that I had at the time. I was only thinking about what I was seeing and I was seeing angels as well as this energy that I am speaking of this gold light. And I saw one of my spirit guides, his name is Bill. He was there and he had just transitioned out of his body back into spirit about six weeks before this had happened. And I saw my grandparents. And so I was told at this time,   that you need to wake up, you need to do what you're supposed to be doing, and you're gonna go back and you're gonna do this work. And so I remembered that, wow, I remember all these things, what I would experience as a child. It was like this beautiful kind of bittersweet sort of experience that happened because it woke me up. So after that, I really just all the intuitive stuff started coming in. I started taking a really strong interest in numerology.   consciousness and it just has opened up. And then I started getting a lot of messages from the babies. So I was a acupuncturist at the time. was and I still am an acupuncturist. And I was getting a lot of messages from babies and whether they would be in the aura of the person that I was treating, or they would actually be in the womb space and I would get messages from them.   I have regular dreams from what I call spirit baby guides that will come and share information with me about how to help people as well as people that I am working with. And so it's been very apparent and made very apparent to me what my job is. And I do not only treat fertility, I work with people on a just a very   helping people across the board with helping them really understand themselves. But fertility is a big part of my job. probably about 50%.   Michelle (06:08) Amazing. so spirit babies have always really intrigued me. And what is it that you feel orbs or what exactly do you feel when you see those spirit babies attached to your patients?   Lindsay Goodwin (06:25) Yeah, absolutely. So they can be sparkles. I see a lot of sparkles. The orbs of colors that I generally see will be blue, white, gold, sometimes purple, sometimes I will see pink. There have been times I have seen green. But the colors are specific. I haven't quite figured out why I only see certain colors.   Michelle (06:47) Mm-hmm.   Lindsay Goodwin (06:48) but they're very beautiful. They're like, if someone is sitting in my office or if I'm doing a virtual session because I work with people globally, that I can actually see these sparkles that will actually start to just come off of them or around them. And that could be a spirit baby. It could also be a passed on loved one that is guiding that particular person on their journey.   Michelle (07:03) Mm.   Lindsay Goodwin (07:11) But we're talking about spirit babies today. So definitely just the spirit in general could have that sort of sparkly sort of energy that I'll see in the person's energy field, which could also be known as biofield, which would be more of a scientific term if we're talking about auras. And then I just, see a lot in my third eye. So your third eye is right between your eyebrows. If people know about chakras, I know that you do, Michelle.   And so I get these thought forms. Sometimes they'll actually be words that will come across. Other times they'll be visuals like I will see the baby. I actually will see what they look like as well as their gender. They will show me different artifacts or objects that relate to the person that I'm reading so that that person will know that I'm actually telling them something that they can link up to and I'm not just making it up.   So that's one thing I've realized over the years with the spirit babies and just the spirit world in general is that things will come through that will resonate with you to confirm with you that you're not alone.   Michelle (08:18) Right. That's amazing. And what do you find or what are the messages that you get for people who are struggling to conceive yet they have a spirit baby around them? Like what is the holdup for the spirit baby coming through?   Lindsay Goodwin (08:33) Well, that's a very common question and there could be a bazillion different things, but I'll tell you some common areas that I see. There could be, you know, it could be that maybe subconsciously, this is where the subconscious mind comes in, which is really powerful. You're into that as well as also a certified hypnotherapist that our subconscious mind will create energy blocks and will make it so that we're thinking things under the radar.   Michelle (09:02) Mm-hmm.   Lindsay Goodwin (09:02) that could   be patterns about, maybe I won't be a good mom, maybe I won't be a good dad, maybe I won't be a good parent. And it could relate to some sort of traumatic event that happened. Maybe you had a mother that was emotionally unavailable. You couldn't speak your truth. You know, not necessarily saying that your parents were bad. It could be that maybe they just were dealing with their own things that were going on. And so you could be carrying around that trauma and not even realize that you're carrying it around. So...   Michelle (09:08) Mm-hmm.   Lindsay Goodwin (09:32) People often ask me, why is it so easy for some people to get pregnant, but it's difficult for me? Why have I had so much loss? Or maybe I have never even had a pregnancy or maybe I have secondary infertility. And the answer that I often get is that I remind people and letting them know that everybody's journey is different. And when we sign up to have these human experiences, we're coming in and we're creating different experiences.   Michelle (09:51) Mm-hmm.   Lindsay Goodwin (09:58) based on what our soul wants to learn in this physical 3D reality. And so if we're comparing our lives to other people and that, well, this person over here got pregnant really easily. Why is this person getting pregnant that doesn't even want the baby? Is this because everyone's journey is different as well as your spirit baby's journey is different. And so it could be a good example would be is that maybe you're someone that wanted to have a   lot more wisdom before you became a parent. Maybe you're someone that didn't want to be like your mother with your child. Maybe there was a lot of healing that needed to happen before your child actually would show up physically because you wanted to be in the best version of yourself to be able to give this child the life that maybe you didn't have.   Michelle (10:30) Mm-hmm.   Yeah. I mean, there's the thing that I find is that, and I've gotten these ideas and downloads through meditation, through even going to Joe Dispenza events, because you're so immersed that you get these downloads, is that we are just simply not aware of the big picture. And we try to make conclusions based on parts and those parts of our life. so it's very hard to make a very   big picture conclusion when we don't have the big picture in front of us. And so part of that is really trusting that there's something else that does see the big picture that we're connected to and being able to surrender that. And that's another thing too that I've noticed is the surrender part. I think we're so conditioned to go after it that sometimes I like to kind of like think about, you know, the Chinese,   Lindsay Goodwin (11:26) Yeah.   Yeah.   Michelle (11:49) handcuffs or the finger cuffs or whatever. The faster you pull, the more you pull tightly and forcefully, the more you get stuck. Creating that kind of flow in your life will allow you to get the lesson faster, I feel like, and then you move faster. That's what I've noticed. Have you picked up on that?   Lindsay Goodwin (12:14) yeah, absolutely. I mean, I have a client that I've been seeing since August and we've got some really good news yesterday. Her AMH went from a 0.44 or something like that to over 1.1 something. Yeah. And it's amazing. I just, it's yes, yes, absolutely. And she's in her forties. And I just, told her, what I tell my clients is you did that.   Michelle (12:31) Wow, that's amazing. That's great to hear for people to hear.   Lindsay Goodwin (12:44) You did that. mean, of course, supplements help acupuncture, but you did that because you have learned to let go of things that are no longer serving you. You're starting to really trust yourself. Your body is saying, yes, yes, yes, because your mind is saying, hey, I know my worthiness. I know that I deserve to be a mom because if I didn't deserve to be a mom, I wouldn't desire it.   Michelle (12:45) Yes. Right.   Lindsay Goodwin (13:10) Okay, and so she is really now believing that this is truly happening for her. It's a knowing now rather than it just, I'm looking for hope, I'm looking for encouragement, will this happen? She's actually knowing that it's happening and her body is responding to it because of her mind power. So I, you know, to get back to what you were talking about, you know, with surrendering, I often tell people with manifesting, whether it's a baby, because babies are manifestations.   Michelle (13:10) Mm-hmm, right.   Mm-hmm.   Yeah.   Lindsay Goodwin (13:40) It's a partner, it's a business, it's a new house, whatever it is, it's better health. What we do, and this is challenging because we're not taught this, but as little kids, we know this. We put out into the universe that, okay, I'm gonna manifest this. You have to almost take it and put it up on the shelf and leave it there. You have to be unattached. Yes, exactly, you have to be unattached.   Michelle (13:40) Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah.   Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You almost have to forget about it.   Yeah.   Lindsay Goodwin (14:10) to the how, the when, what it's gonna look like. And you're living your life and you're enjoying your magic and your light and your family and all the things that make you happy. I mean, when our perspective shifts, our whole world shifts. You can look at something one way or you can look at it another way. If you're looking at things and that things are abundant or you're looking at things of what I don't have,   Michelle (14:13) Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.   True.   Lindsay Goodwin (14:38) That's a very different feeling. And we know that the universe is responding to how we feel.   Michelle (14:44) yes. Yeah. It's the feelings. Yeah. The feelings really make a huge difference. And that's what they found actually in the research that Joe Dispenza does is because the researchers come up and talk and they say the two things that they saw, you know, the combination is thought emotions and emotional state. So that's one of the reasons why he focuses a lot on the heart and also this joy and the love.   Because when you feel those emotions, you can feel those emotions in very challenging times, yet you still can be very elevated. And I can tell you this, I I went through the loss of my father and it was a very challenging time to see him go through the transition. I knew he was gonna transition. I knew that I was witnessing to that. At the same time, I was able to get into a state of such love.   Lindsay Goodwin (15:38) Yeah.   Michelle (15:39) that   I felt more alive than like ever before. It felt like such a pivotal and sacred time, even though it could be judged as like this bad, dark time. And yes, it had very difficult, painful aspects to it, but the way I'm describing it now is it's a more neutral way. So you could look at something and acknowledge the pain in a more neutral perspective.   rather than looking at it and saying, this is good, this is bad. Because ultimately by doing that, or saying something's bad, you're limiting yourself. We were talking about that before. You're limiting yourself to that aspect of it. And that will impact your energy and how you're able to really show up in your life. And the energy impact can for sure impact the AMH. So all of these things that suck our energy throughout our life,   and mentally in the background are going to definitely impact the energy that can go into procreation. So it's this whole big picture.   Lindsay Goodwin (16:46) It really is. And you know, I love what you're saying. It's about giving meaning to things. know, once we give meaning to things, then it takes on its own energy. neutral is a very powerful way of explaining it. And I know that that can be challenging as a human being because we're encoded with emotions. It's part of the experience. But when you can learn, like the Buddha says, and I'm not Buddhist, but just, know, I love   Michelle (17:07) Mm-hmm.   Lindsay Goodwin (17:16) history and there's a lot of philosophies that are great, is that when you can live in that middle place, you know, rather than being too up here or too down here, you're just neutral. That's really when the manifestation happens. That's really when the happiness, that's where the joy is, because you're not attached to anything.   Michelle (17:23) Mm-hmm.   Yep. Yeah.   Yep.   Yes, it is. It's that golden path. know, Eckhart Tolle refers to that as the present moment. And Chinese medicine can refer to that or Taoism as flow. You know, that is that golden path that is, it's neither one extreme or the other. It's here in the center. It's that neutrality.   And many different ancient cultures have been pointing to that. And many different spiritual teachers refer to that because that is the portal. And Eckhart Tolle says that that present moment is the portal really to the endlessness. So it's, it's when we're able to really let go and, know, also not the, not get hung up on the past and hold on to all of that and not get too identified with the future.   just really being in that center moment. If you think about that, if you truly, truly get into that state, you're very free. You're free. And when you're free, energetically, you're able to really connect to a wealth of power and energy to create whatever you need to create.   Lindsay Goodwin (18:47) Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I have to add to that, you know, I don't know if you ask yourself this, but I find it quite interesting if we're just talking about Chinese medicine. How is it that ancient philosophers of Chinese medicine came up with everything that they knew about the internal parts of the body and the spiritual energy with no diagnostics, no MRI machine, no ultrasound, no ability to look at the blood. They were channeling.   They were channeling energy.   Michelle (19:19) 100%. 100%. They were connected to that wealth of intelligence that we all have. We all are connected to. And I love that you mentioned that because you and I are both interested kind of like in the scientific research of the spirituality and like really understanding that because it's a great tool and it could be used as a great tool. However, they didn't have that back then.   Lindsay Goodwin (19:21) Thank   Absolutely.   Michelle (19:45) And so that just shows, and it's actually being proven just by itself, that just shows that there is an intelligence that we are connected to, that we can connect to without necessarily having to dissect it.   Lindsay Goodwin (20:02) Yep, absolutely. And I say this often too, if science was a silver bullet for everything, are people not able to get pregnant with IVF?   Michelle (20:12) Right. my God, such a good point.   Lindsay Goodwin (20:16) I mean, it works for a lot of people. I'm not anti Western medicine or modern medicine at all. I think it's great. I believe in integrative medicine. Yeah, absolutely. And that's, think what makes what we do so powerful too. We can see both sides of the coin and really help people to understand their bodies, but also understand that, wow, we've got this energy part that can't always be proven. Right. And so   Michelle (20:19) Mm-hmm. Yeah.   Me too, yeah.   Yes, 100%.   Yeah.   Lindsay Goodwin (20:44) you know, it's just that's, that's what people want. That is where we are going as an energy collective as integrative. It's not, you know, one side, one sided, you know, this is an integrative process that's happening because science is great. mean, there's so many wonderful, just advantages to live in this time where we have science, because for example, if someone has   Michelle (20:52) Mm-hmm.   Yes, yeah, it's whole.   Lindsay Goodwin (21:13) Say they have a partner that has some sort of DNA issue with their sperm and if they get pregnant naturally, they've had several miscarriages and that's painful to go through. IVF would be a great option because then we can create an embryo that is healthy and then we have a healthy baby. They're not going through that emotional roller coaster. It's not just that. I'm just giving one example.   Michelle (21:20) Mm-hmm.   Correct.   Lindsay Goodwin (21:43) Okay, but when we're just saying that it's just one way or the other, it's making it very limited for people. And I don't think that that's fair. This is my opinion and I know that you're on the same page too. But like, this is what we are going to see further that we go into just where we're headed as just humans. People want more of the energy.   Michelle (21:43) Mm-hmm.   Mm-hmm.   Lindsay Goodwin (22:11) options in health in general. You're moving away from being, I'm going to take this pill and that pill and I'm going to, you know, people don't want that anymore. I don't want that. I mean, you and I haven't been wanting that for years because we wouldn't be where we are if we did. And again, I'm not, I'm not knocking. I'm not talking bad about science. I think that, like I said, it's, it's wonderful. It does wonderful things.   Michelle (22:13) Mm-hmm. Yeah.   Yeah.   Yeah.   Lindsay Goodwin (22:38) but we have to open our mind a little bit more to things.   Michelle (22:41) For sure. There's definitely a place   for everything. And I think that as you're talking about that, I'm thinking about the neutrality aspect of it, looking at it objectively and saying, Hey, you know, this is one tool and then this is another tool. And sometimes this tool is a tool that can be very beneficial, but it shouldn't be the only tool because there are other tools like energetic that we don't necessarily see that can be very beneficial. And in fact, sometimes can enhance the, maybe the medical tools.   Lindsay Goodwin (22:49) the   Yeah, absolutely. Well, they have found studies, know, Harvard Medical School for, it was not contemporary medicine, but it's the alternative side of the medical school. They did a study where they found that they had two different groups. And the one group that followed a mind body, which what was included with that was meditations, mindfulness, as well as visualizations.   Michelle (23:38) Yeah.   Lindsay Goodwin (23:38) Hypnotherapy,   medical intuition, mean, all these energy modalities, they had a 55 % success rate of healthy babies, where the other group that didn't follow that particular program chose not to do it or just didn't do it the way that it was designed for them had about a 20 % success rate. So we really are seeing that when we are integrating, like you just stated, these mind-body techniques that   Michelle (24:07) Mm-hmm.   Lindsay Goodwin (24:07) they can   really enhance these medical therapies that people are using with Western medicine like IVF.   Michelle (24:15) yeah, it is so powerful and I'm glad that finally there's attention put on it because I think that because it's so abstract, a lot of these visualizations or visualizations being different than what you just said, like which is more mindfulness, but in general, like getting into the state of our being that is more abstract. It's not something that we can easily dissect or it's not as tangible as others.   And I think for that reason specifically, it can be very easily ignored. So I love the fact that there is data showing the evidence of that working because it's powerful and I think it'll get more people on board to do that. And not only will it help their fertility, but it's also going to help their life.   Lindsay Goodwin (25:04) Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, because you know, it's I have a lot of vivid dreams, one that I had earlier this year. And I'm not religious in any way. But I get messages in there what they are. And the message was is the kingdom is within you. And we all know that if people read the Bible, or they've seen that. And again, I'm not necessarily a pusher of the Bible by any means, I'm a spiritual person. So I don't push any sort of religion. So very open.   Michelle (25:22) Mm-hmm.   Lindsay Goodwin (25:34) But, you know, it's interesting to me because when I was having this dream, it was a presence, it was a consciousness. And again, I think that this was source energy God, which is all of us anyway. It's we're not separate from that, like you stated. And so there was these all these lapis lazuli stones that were coming out of what I know to be my body.   Michelle (25:48) Mm-hmm.   Mm-hmm. Yeah.   Lindsay Goodwin (26:04) And I did not know, but in the Bible it states that Lapis Lazuli was made, that was what the throne of what God, I guess in the Bible, was actually made from. So it was very powerful and that shook me up. If the robbery and the out of body experience didn't, that one did, that we're all so powerful.   Michelle (26:04) Mm-hmm.   wow.   Mm-hmm.   Lindsay Goodwin (26:33) And you   don't necessarily have to be having dreams like I do. I'm here to share these dreams. I'm here to share this information, just like you, to help people to realize that you have the power to create and be anything that you want. You have the power to heal yourself. And by no means disclaimer, am I recommending that people stop taking their medications or stop their treatment? But you do. You have the power, but it's   Michelle (26:55) Yes. Yeah.   Lindsay Goodwin (27:02) really starting to believe that and that can take some healing work, know, working with someone that can help you with that. But I always tell people when they work with me, we're not meant to work together forever. We're meant to get the work done that we're meant to do together and then you're going to be better and you're going to find your own magic. And then you're going to be able to help other people by you just being you. Yeah.   Michelle (27:04) Mm-hmm.   Yeah.   Mm-hmm.   Yes, it does happen often.   And then what are some things, because we talk about the mind body and obviously there are certain techniques, like we talked about mindfulness. What are some techniques that people can look into that can help them utilize this incredible force of their mind?   Lindsay Goodwin (27:47) Yeah, absolutely. So techniques that I use would be hypnotherapy, which I know you use as well, Michelle, and neuro linguistic programming, which is NLP, which is being able to tap into the subconscious mind. It also is the study of body language. So it's the study like the FBI uses it to be able to solve cases and be able to tell if people are telling the truth or not.   Michelle (28:07) Mm-hmm.   Lindsay Goodwin (28:11) Now that's a really powerful way to be able to work with somebody too, because sometimes you could even be lying to yourself, not even realize that you're doing it. So I'm able to see really, and it does not, we can be virtual, does not necessarily have to be in person. Energy has no barriers with us being across the world or across the country like you and I are. And so we can use these tools to be able to tell what's going on in somebody's subconscious mind.   Michelle (28:17) Mm-hmm.   Mm-hmm.   Lindsay Goodwin (28:39) probably are not consciously aware of. So then what we do is I use different tools to be able to help them to learn how to reprogram those behaviors because the subconscious mind doesn't know the difference between real and fake. So if you're constantly unconsciously telling yourself, like I was stating before, that I don't know if I'm going to be a good parent. I don't know if this is going to work out for me. What if I've had clients, for example, that have had maybe their   Michelle (28:41) Mm-hmm.   Mm-hmm.   Lindsay Goodwin (29:09) their mom had secondary infertility and they heard about that. I have one actually that's happened to and she did not even realize this. And then when she started working with me, we identified that her mom had secondary infertility when she was trying to have her. So she'd been constantly telling herself since she was about 12 years old that she was gonna have infertility, infertility, infertility. I have another client I worked with years ago that did IVF.   Michelle (29:23) Mm-hmm.   Mm-hmm.   Lindsay Goodwin (29:36) And she had some of the lowest AMH that I've ever seen on somebody that was young. I mean, she was under 30. And she we identified and figured out that her aunt had infertility. And she had been telling herself over and over again, she was a little girl that she was going to have infertility. Well, she did one baby with IVF, all the other ones like three more three or four more came naturally. So once she got over that   that subconscious belief that she was going to have trouble with having a baby, then she just had babies naturally. So was something that she needed to get over in her journey. So NLP, Neuro Linguistic Program is really powerful. Visualizations are really powerful, mindfulness, meditation. I do a lot of visualization with my clients as well as helping them with their chakras, which are the energy centers located in the spine.   to really identify also my medical intuitive so really identify where there's imbalancing happening and then figuring out what emotions are attached to that what sort of traumas are attached to that for example a lot of women have a blocked throat chakra which when we have a blocked throat chakra yeah it is yeah yeah exactly that will block up the womb space   Michelle (30:47) Mm-hmm.   Yeah, and lapis lazuli is good for that.   And it's interesting how the thyroid impacts reproductive, organs and health.   Lindsay Goodwin (31:08) Yep. It's the biggest one. It's the biggest gland in that endocrine system. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, we could go into endocrinology and the spiritual. That's always fun. Yeah.   Michelle (31:19) Yeah, but also expression, know, so that expression   opening up the heart, heart opening up the uterus. I mean, there's so many aspects and that's the thing too with chakras is that yes, they each have their own indication and behaviors and patterns, but they also have an interlinking workings with each other.   Lindsay Goodwin (31:42) Yep. It's all connected just like the Chinese philosophers of Eastern medicine.   Michelle (31:48) Yeah. Amazing. This is so interesting. mean, I can talk to you for hours. I can keep talking about like everything, but I wanted to ask if people are interested. I know you have a new podcast, which is awesome. And so talk about your new podcast and also talk about how people can reach out to you if they want to work with you.   Lindsay Goodwin (31:53) same.   Yes.   Yeah, absolutely. So new podcast is fertile frequencies. I created that. Thank you. I created that because I really wanted to bring more of an integration of the unseen energies of the energies of spirit babies, energetic, spiritual fertility, which by the way, is not religious, it is spiritual, it's energy. Often that's a question that people will ask me about. That's kind of why I call it more energetic spiritual fertility. So people kind of understand this from an energy standpoint.   Michelle (32:13) I love that.   Mm-hmm.   Lindsay Goodwin (32:40) And so really talking with people, giving you the encouragement on your fertility journey, knowing that this is manifesting for you, understanding more about your physical body, but knowing that your fertility is way more than just your physical body. So we do get into some of the dynamics of things like egg quality, as well as IVF, talking about nutrition, different supplements.   I do talk about that, but I'm more about the energy. I feel like there's a lot of information out there about the physical side of fertility. So a lot of great content creators, like people, and of course you have a great podcast as well, that are already doing that. So there's not enough of the energy. So yeah, so that is a lot if you're into that, which if you listen to Michelle's podcast, I'm sure that you are into the energy side of fertility.   Michelle (33:07) Mm-hmm.   Yep.   I agree.   Mm-hmm.   Lindsay Goodwin (33:31) And so just started that, I'm gonna have some really great experts on there. I'd love to have you on there as well. That's coming up. So it's definitely getting bigger than I think I was expecting it to. I think it's just time. It's time for this message to be out. Yeah, it's aligned, exactly. I do have a fertility program coming out as well. Of course, it's coming out in this month.   Michelle (33:46) It's time. It's aligned. time.   Lindsay Goodwin (33:56) And then I do have a VIP fertility program where you can work one-on-one with me and I do design a unique fertility program for you that has the physical aspects in it, but I do walk you through, help you with changing some of those subconscious patterns, helping you to really manifest the healthy pregnancy that you're looking for. And if you're interested in that, I do offer a 45 minute call where we can go through the program and I can meet you and we can answer any questions. I can answer any questions that you have.   and see how I can help. I'm only going to work with people that I know I can help. So I'm very honest about that as well. I think integrity is a huge part of this. So first step is seeing if we're a good fit. And then I also have some free resources as well. If you'd like to, I have an ebook on fertility, some seven essential steps to download, an ebook download to help you with some of those essential steps getting started on your fertility journey, or if you're someone that   Michelle (34:30) Mm-hmm.   Yeah, for sure.   Lindsay Goodwin (34:55) has been trying for a while. That would be helpful as well. And I do have a fertility affirmations and meditation available that you can download that is a free download as well. definitely I'm now on Insight timer. So you can download it on there. Yeah. So yeah.   Michelle (35:09) Mm-hmm. awesome. Cool.   That's great. And all of Lindsay's information will be in the episode notes in case anybody wants to find it. Lindsay, I absolutely love talking to you. I feel so aligned with your way and method of teaching and also your perspective on fertility and health.   So it's always a pleasure talking to you. Happy new year. Well, right now it's, by the time this airs, it's going to be way past new year, but it is January 1st today. So thank you so much for coming on.   Lindsay Goodwin (35:34) you   Yeah.   Thank you so much, Michelle, and thank you to all of your listeners and so much love and encouragement. And just know that it's all happening for you.

Takeaways from this episode: Acupuncture, TTC and Infertility Over 40 Acupuncture, Herbs and Moxibustion to Remove Obstructions and Balance the Body's Energy. Male Factor and Emotional Considerations While Making Lifestyle Modifications “Hustle Cultures” Impact on Fertility of 40 Dr. Lj Johnson, is a beacon of hope in the landscape of women's health. Not just an expert in hormonal balance and gut health, but a warrior who has prevailed in the face of her own chronic illness battles. Her 16-year arduous journey to an endometriosis diagnosis has sculpted her into the dedicated, wholistic functional medicine practitioner she is today. Dr. Johnson's mission is to empower, motivate, and educate women in advocating for their health, ensuring no one experiences the delays and dismissals she endured. Dr. Lj's experience teaches more than survival—it inspires a revolution in healthcare, prioritizing understanding, comprehensive care, and a life unfettered by the chains of chronic illness. If you're seeking a partnership on your hormonal health journey that's built on empathy, expertise, and empowerment, look no further. Embark on a transformational path towards wellness and reclaim the quality of life you deserve. https://wholistichormoneexpert.com/home Dr. Beck Hoehn, a Los Angeles-based fertility acupuncturist and herbalist, specializes in women's wellness, treating pain, stress, digestive disorders, and hormonal imbalances. She creates personalized wellness plans with achievable weekly goals. With advanced degrees and certifications, Dr. Hoehn teaches at a local acupuncture university and is an ABORM fellow. She also serves on the Oova medical board, offering expert, patient-centered care in fertility and overall health. https://www.drbeckhoehn.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/wholisticendoexpert/support

Explore this deep conversation with Dr. Beck Hoehn as she details conventional fertility treatment to help womxn conceive quickly, safely, and naturally. Learn about this tried-and-true Eastern practice to feel empowered in starting your pregnancy journey today! Key takeaways to listen forHow acupuncture helps increase womxn's fertilityEnvironmental factors that influence fertility Expert tips for people trying to get pregnant Advantages of consulting an acupuncturist with herbal therapy trainingReasons why you should try eastern acupuncturePowerful benefits of supporting womxn's healthcare Resources mentioned in this episodeGet Pregnant Guide American Board of Oriental Reproductive MedicineThe Positive Pregnancy Project About Dr. Beck Hoehn Dr. Beck is a Los Angeles-based board-certified acupuncturist who treats pain, digestive disorders, stress, and hormonal imbalances and specializes in supporting women's wellness and fertility.She is committed to helping patients lead a better life and collaborates with them on personalized wellness plans. Dr. Beck believes in small, achievable weekly goals that comprise a larger victory on the road to better health. Dr. Beck received a master's degree with honors from Emperor's College of Oriental Medicine and her doctorate in fertility acupuncture from the Pacific College of Health Sciences. She is board-certified both nationally and in the state of California. In addition, Dr. Beck is also an active member of the American Board of Oriental Reproductive Medicine (ABORM).  Through ABORM, she pursued additional specialized training in reproductive health and fertility acupuncture and held the distinction of being an ABORM fellow.Connect with Dr. BeckWebsite:  Dr. Beck Hoehn | Mighty River Wellness ClinicSupport the show!Want to learn more about us? Visit our website at www.periodtopause.com or send an email to amanda@periodtopause.comFollow us on Instagram: @periodtopauseFollow our Facebook Page: Period to Pause

On today's episode, I interview an amazing acupuncturist and graduate of my online fertility coaching program Lindsay Goodwin!   Lindsay Goodwin has over a decade of fertility and women's health expertise. She is a licensed and board-certified acupuncturist, Chinese Medicine herbalist, and certified fellow on ABORM: The Acupuncture & TCM Board for Reproductive Medicine. In addition, Lindsay is a certified soul-mastery coach, hypnotherapist, EFT practitioner, meditation instructor, intuitive medium, and spirit baby channel. Lindsay's approach combines scientific knowledge with spiritual energy healing, allowing her to provide highly effective treatments. She has successfully assisted numerous women with their fertility and hormonal issues, and many clients have credited her programs and healing style for completely transforming their lives.   Lindsay's mission is to integrate science and energy to support women and couples struggling with infertility, offering them the best possible results. She was inspired to pursue this integration after realizing that some of her patients on a fertility journey needed more support they were not receiving. By providing spiritual support alongside traditional evidence-based treatment methods, Lindsay witnessed quicker and more profound manifestations of miracles in her patients' lives.   One of Lindsay's most significant accomplishments is her ability to help even the most challenging cases, often leading to healthy pregnancies. In addition to supporting women on their fertility journey, Lindsay offers programs focused on intuitive development, gaining clarity from universal wisdom, and healing from past traumas using neuroscience and mindset techniques. Currently, Lindsay is working on two books: one about the energy of fertility manifesting and another about healing from past traumas and overcoming self-limiting beliefs.   Lindsay resides in Denver, Colorado, where she runs a local women's health natural medicine and acupuncture clinic. She also has a product line, Garnet Moon, which features organic skin and beauty care, all-natural healing products, and crystal healing stones.   Website & Social media links (Facebook, instagram, twitter) https://garnetmoonlove.com/ IG: @garnetmoon_love FB: garnetmoonlove   Online fertility coaching program: https://www.michelleoravitz.com/thewholesomefertilitymethodcertification For more information about Michelle, visit www.michelleoravitz.com The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2149554308396504/ Instagram: @thewholesomelotusfertility Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewholesomelotus/

In this episode Dr. Olivia Pojer, an expert in male fertility, returns for her second episode to shed light on the role of male fertility contributing to unexplained infertility and miscarriages. Dr. Pojer, both a medical doctor and acupuncturist and Chinese Herbal Medicine practitioner, discusses the alarming decline in sperm quality and count worldwide, emphasizing the need for greater awareness of this issue. She highlights the importance of semen analysis as an indicator of overall health and delves into the significance of DNA fragmentation testing. Dr. Pojer also shares valuable insights on addressing common factors affecting male fertility, such as varicoceles, infections, lifestyle choices, and even the impact of COVID-19. She recommends potential solutions, including acupuncture, herbal medicine, supplements and lifestyle modifications to optimize sperm health. If you're trying to conceive and want to involve your male partner in the journey, this episode is a must-listen. Join us to gain a deeper understanding of male fertility and how his role can  contribute to successful pregnancies.   Key Topics: ●      The Decline in Sperm Quality ●      DNA Fragmentation Testing ●      Varicoceles and Sperm Quality ●      Impact of COVID-19 on Male Fertility ●      Lifestyle Factors and Male Fertility     Olivia Pojer's Bio: Dr. Olivia Pojer MD, studied medicine at the University of Graz, Austria and graduated to Dr. med.univ. in 2004, general practitioner since 2009. In 2010, she established a medical practice for Chinese medicine in Gleisdorf, Austria. Dr. Pojer is a lecturer and course instructor of the OGKA (Austrian Society for Controlled Acupuncture and TCM), teaches and lectures in Austria and worldwide. She is a Fellow of the ABORM and holds an Acupuncture Diploma and a Diploma for Chinese Herbal Medicine from the Austrian Medical Association, diploma for further training in “Master-Tung acupuncture” by Henry McCann (USA), diploma for “Integrative medicine in assisted reproduction (ART)” by the German association for reproductive medicine, diploma for advanced training in TCM from the Universities of Nanjing and Wuhan (China). Since June 2019, Dr Pojer is the President of the OGKA and the author of the book "Secrets from the chamber of Jade-Treatment of erectile dysfunction and lack of libido with Chinese Medicine", published by Müller & Steinicke in May 2017.     Where To Find Dr. Olivia Pojer:   -       Instagram: @oliviapojer -       Book: The Integrative Treatment of Male Infertility With Chinese Medicine -       Online Course on Healthy Seminars by Dr Olivia Pojer  https://healthyseminars.com/bio/olivia-pojer       Listen to Olivia's past episode on The Conscious Fertility Podcast: Episode 19 - Spermageddon: The Decline in Male Fertility   How to connect to Lorne Brown online and in person (Vancouver, BC)   Acubalance.ca book virtual or in person conscious work sessions with Dr. Lorne Brown Lornebrown.com   Conscious hacks and tools to optimize your fertility by Dr. Lorne Brown: https://acubalance.ca/conscious-work/     Download a free copy of the Acubalance Fertility Diet & Recipes and a copy of the ebook 5 Ways to Maximize Your Chances of Getting Pregnant from Acubalance.ca     Connect with Lorne and the podcast on Instagram:   @acubalancewellnesscentre @conscious_fertility_podcast @lorne_brown_official DISCLAIMER: By listening to this podcast, you agree not to use it as medical advice to treat any medical condition in either yourself or others. This podcast offers information to help the listener cooperate with physicians, mental health professionals or other healthcare providers in a mutual quest for optimal well-being. We advise listeners to carefully review and understand the ideas presented, and to consult your own physician for any medical issues that you may be having. Under no circumstances shall Acubalance, any guests or contributors to the Conscious Fertility podcast, or any employees, associates, or affiliates of Acubalance be responsible for damages arising from the use of the podcast.  

Dr. Lee Hullender Rubin wants you to understand acupuncture and how it can aid all kinds of issues, including infertility.  The founder of Rosefinch Health, Dr. Lee is an award-winning doctor of acupuncture and a leader in the field of integrative reproductive medicine. She blends compassionate care with over two decades of clinical experience specializing in fertility, IVF support, pelvic and vulvovaginal pain, and cancer-related support. She is also a teacher and researcher in acupuncture and integrative East Asian medicine and founded Rosefinch Academy to help other providers learn more.  But about that “being poked with needles” thing: In unskilled hands… well, just don't be in unskilled hands. Acupuncture can seem random to the unfamiliar, but it's a highly specific process developed, literally, over thousands of years.  If you've avoided acupuncture because you're needle-phobic, here's a big tip: acupuncture, in the right hands, doesn't and shouldn't hurt. In skilled hands, you won't feel the needle going in, only the results.  So, here are a couple of tips for assessing an acupuncture provider: Ask to see their license for your state or look them up on your state's medical board.  Your specialist will perform an assessment of you involving lots of questions. You should do the same. Ask about their training and experience until you're confident about their professionalism. Your acupuncturist is part of your care team. Make sure this provider is complementary to and cooperative with the rest of your care.  Your acupuncturist should understand your goals and have experience dealing with fertility issues, so ask about their work in fertility in particular. Check with aborm.org (aborm.org) but realize not everyone who is qualified has taken this optional test. Ask: if this isn't the cycle for me, how will you support me? What can acupuncture do for you? At the very minimum, acupuncture can help you feel more relaxed and have better energy. And that can be super-helpful at a difficult time. Acupuncture may increase your chances of a clinical pregnancy or live birth. Acupuncture can relieve stress and help you sleep better. Acupuncture may help your body ovulate more consistently.  Acupuncture may help control blood sugar levels. This is just the tip of the iceberg of this conversation among Ruby, Anne, and Dr. Lee, so be sure to listen to hear all the science behind acupuncture. This ancient treatment method has so much to offer us here in the present! Learn more about Dr. Lee and schedule an appointment at Rosefinch Health at rosefinchhealth.com And as always, learn more and hear more from The Whole Pineapple at thewholepineapple.com.   The Acupuncture and TCM Board of Reproductive Medicine (ABORM): aborm.org

Dr. Hoehn is a Los Angeles-based board-certified acupuncturist and herbalist who specializes in supporting women's wellness and fertility, digestive disorders, stress, and hormonal imbalances. She is committed to helping patients lead a better life and collaborates with them on personalized wellness plans. Dr. Hoehn believes in small achievable weekly goals that comprise a larger victory on the road to better health. Dr. Hoehn received a master's degree with honors from Emperor's College of Oriental Medicine and her doctorate in fertility acupuncture from the Pacific College of Health Sciences. She is board-certified both nationally and in the state of California. In addition, Dr. Hoehn is also an active member of the American Board of Oriental Reproductive Medicine (ABORM). Through ABORM, she pursued additional specialized training in reproductive health and fertility acupuncture and holds the distinction of being an ABORM fellow. Get the ebook: The Get Pregnant Guide: https://www.drbeckhoehn.com/get-pregnant-guide. The VIP early interest sign up is here: https://mightyriver.kartra.com/page/af-thankyou. instagram accounts are Mighty River Wellness as well as Achieve Fertility Courses. https://thegetpregnantguide.com/

Dr. Hoehn is a Los Angeles-based board-certified acupuncturist and herbalist who specializes in supporting women's wellness and fertility, digestive disorders, stress, and hormonal imbalances. She is committed to helping patients lead a better life and collaborates with them on personalized wellness plans. Dr. Hoehn believes in small achievable weekly goals that comprise a larger victory on the road to better health. Dr. Hoehn received a master's degree with honors from Emperor's College of Oriental Medicine and her doctorate in fertility acupuncture from the Pacific College of Health Sciences. She is board-certified both nationally and in the state of California. In addition, Dr. Hoehn is also an active member of the American Board of Oriental Reproductive Medicine (ABORM). Through ABORM, she pursued additional specialized training in reproductive health and fertility acupuncture and holds the distinction of being an ABORM fellow. Get the ebook: The Get Pregnant Guide: https://www.drbeckhoehn.com/get-pregnant-guide. The VIP early interest sign up is here: https://mightyriver.kartra.com/page/af-thankyou. instagram accounts are Mighty River Wellness as well as Achieve Fertility Courses. https://thegetpregnantguide.com/

In this episode of Oh My Heath ... There's HOPE! Jana talks with Dr. Beck Hoehn.   Dr. Hoehn is a Los Angeles-based board-certified acupuncturist and herbalist who specializes in supporting women's wellness and fertility, digestive disorders, stress, and hormonal imbalances.   She is committed to helping patients lead a better life and collaborates with them on personalized wellness plans. Dr. Hoehn believes in small achievable weekly goals that comprise a larger victory on the road to better health.   Dr. Hoehn received a master's degree with honors from Emperor's College of Oriental Medicine and her doctorate in fertility acupuncture from the Pacific College of Health Sciences. She is board-certified both nationally and in the state of California. In addition, Dr. Hoehn is also an active member of the American Board of Oriental Reproductive Medicine (ABORM). Through ABORM, she pursued additional specialized training in reproductive health and fertility acupuncture and holds the distinction of being an ABORM fellow.   “Every woman who wants to be a mom deserves that chance.”   This 30-minute episode is on: Finding healing through holistic pathways Getting pregnant & staying pregnant What has changed culturally when it comes to conceiving Be aware of what you are putting in your home Learning about the endocrine system and a healthy lifestyle Hear about the Positive Pregnancy Project   Get in touch with Dr. Hoehn: https://www.mightyriverwellness.com/ https://www.instagram.com/achievefertilitycourses/ https://www.facebook.com/beck.hoehn/   Free Offer: Get Pregnant: https://www.drbeckhoehn.com/get-pregnant-guide Receive access to Dr. Hoehn's early interest list for my fertility program, The Positive Pregnancy Project. https://mightyriver.kartra.com/page/af-thankyou   Get in touch with Jana and listen to more Podcasts: https://www.janashort.com/   Show Music ‘Hold On' by Amy Gerhartz https://www.amygerhartz.com/music.   Get Your Free Copy of Best Holistic Life Magazine! One of the fastest-growing independent magazines centered around holistic living. https://www.bestholisticlife.com/ Grab your gift today: https://www.janashort.com/becoming-the-next-influencers-download-offer/ Connect with Jana Short: https://www.janashort.com/contact/

In this episode, Holly interviews Dr. Beck Hoehn of Mighty River Wellness. Dr. Hoehn is a Los Angeles-based board-certified acupuncturist who treats pain, digestive disorders, stress, and hormonal imbalances, and specializes in supporting women's wellness and fertility. She is committed to helping patients lead a better life and collaborates with them on personalized wellness plans. Dr. Hoehn believes in small achievable weekly goals that comprise a larger victory on the road to better health. Dr. Hoehn received a master's degree with honors from Emperor's College of Oriental Medicine and her doctorate in fertility acupuncture from Pacific College of Health Sciences. She is board-certified both nationally and in the state of California. In addition, Dr. Hoehn is also an active member of the American Board of Oriental Reproductive Medicine (ABORM). Through ABORM, she pursued additional specialized training in reproductive health and fertility acupuncture and holds the distinction of being an ABORM fellow. Find Beck: Website - https://www.mightyriverwellness.com/ IG - https://www.instagram.com/achievefertilitycourses/ The Positive Pregnancy Project - https://mightyriver.kartra.com/page/af-interested Find Holly: Community – https://www.facebook.com/groups/241111264443799 Website - https://rosebudwellness.com/ IG - https://www.instagram.com/rosebud_wellness/ Shop - http://rosebudwellness.com/shop/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/wombwisdom/message

Zita West is a leading fertility and pregnancy expert.  She is a practicing midwife, acupuncturist, nutritional advisor and author of ten fertility and pregnancy books. She is acknowledged as one of Europe's leading experts on how we can improve our prospects at each key stage of the reproductive process through natural means or, if necessary, through medical intervention. Zita has been involved in fertility now for over 30 years and over that time thousands of couples have come to her for advice on how to get into optimum shape – physiologically, nutritionally and emotionally – for all the vital stages of childbirth from pre-conception to conception, pregnancy and the months immediately after birth.   https://zita-west.myshopify.com/ https://www.instagram.com/zita.west/ https://www.facebook.com/zitawestfertility https://www.linkedin.com/feed/   For more information about Michelle, visit www.michelleoravitz.com The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2149554308396504/ Instagram: @thewholesomelotusfertility Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewholesomelotus/

Today we talk about how the philosophy and practice of Traditional Chinese Medicine may impact your fertility. I have Dr. Mimi Le, DACM of Better Balance Acupuncture shares with us her knowledge of how acupuncture can impact your fertility journey. During this episode we talk about some of the basics and philosophy behind Chinese Medicine and the recommendations for timing during your fertility cycles. Take a listen to see if this may be helpful for you. Research mentioned by Dr. Mimi (I have not read any of these studies; however, they were mentioned by Dr Mimi and she provided links): Journal of alternative and complementary medicine . https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6421999/ Fertility and Sterility: https://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(01)03273-3/pdf Reproductive Biomedicine: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4458185/pdf/nihms667103.pdf Additional Research Resources: http://www.thefertilesoulcefp.org/ Mentioned in this episode: The Infertility Cure by Randine Lewis, PhD - https://amzn.to/3Dw8mb6 Dr. Aimee Egg Whisperer: https://www.instagram.com/eggwhisperer/ Dr. Zaher Merhi: https://www.instagram.com/dr_merhi/ Dr. Allison Rodgers: https://www.instagram.com/dr.allison.rodgers/ Alease the Embryologist: https://www.instagram.com/alease_the_embryologist/ Lucky Baby Lam: https://www.instagram.com/luckybabylam/ Cute4Fertility: https://www.instagram.com/cute4fertility/ Infertility Man: https://www.instagram.com/infertilityman/ Awakening Worth: https://www.instagram.com/awakening.worth/ Find an acupuncturist who specializes in fertility here: www.ABORM.org --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/40andinfertile/support

On today's episode, I share how a woman's menstrual cycle can reflect the nature of yin and yang.  This is a fascinating topic that I was amazed to learn when I began specializing in fertility health.   Being able to observe these types of patterns in your cycle can help tremendously when trying to conceive as it can alert you to subtle imbalances and when to reach out to a doctor.    Note: always speak to a qualified acupuncturist about herbs and moxa.  A great way to find a local acupuncturist who specializes in fertility is searching for an ABORM certified practitioner which can be found here: https://aborm.org   For more information about Michelle, visit www.michelleoravitz.com The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2149554308396504/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thewholesomelotusfertility/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewholesomelotus/

Before I really get into the bulk of the episode, I want to talk about the recent controversy around Omega-3 and debunk the fears that it can cause atrial fibrillation, or A Fib.  In this day and age, it's so easy for the media to summarise scientific findings into clickbaiting titles-- usually foregoing the accuracy of the headline. In this episode, I'll go into detail about the truth behind this headline, and why Omega-3 should not be avoided when trying to conceive. Also in this episode, I really wanted to take the time and talk about the benefits of acupuncture in helping you get pregnant and increase your chances of a successful pregnancy. As someone who has dedicated over 13 years of her life to the art with a matching degree, I can say with confidence that it's definitely worth a try for anyone. Be sure to listen in as I go over everything you need to know about using acupuncture to help your fertility! In this episode, we talked about: The problem of the Omega-3 Controversy and why you shouldn't avoid it What is acupuncture and how it fits in to the Chinese medical system How acupuncture can help with fertility The differences between accredited acupuncturists, fertility acupuncturist and Fellows of ABORM.   To learn more about Two elephants products, please visit www.2elefants.com How to connect with me: www.adriennewei.com www.2elefants.com TikTok @Theadriennewei Instagram @adrienne.wei Facebook Group - Fertile Me

Today, in this solo episode, we are going to dive into a topic that comes up a lot in the fertility world. Stress. There is a lot to unpack with this topic. Far more than I could possibly hope to cover in one episode. But I want to try to at least touch briefly on a few aspects that might be interesting for you to consider today, while you are going through your current stage of your family building. In this episode, we discuss: The definition of stress and what it means The physiological impact of stress The parasympathetic vs sympathetic nervous system (and which state you want to be in for making babies) Perspectives on thought work and how we can impact our physiology with our thoughts and feelings Some good hacks to help support your nervous system Important Links: Episode 7 - Sleep and Fertility Find an ABORM certified Acupuncturist Work with Michelle - fill out the contact form Michelle's website Fertility Academy on Instagram

Dr. Magarelli is a nationally noted Board-Certified Reproductive Endocrinology & Infertility (REI) specialist at CNY Fertility’s Colorado Springs location. He has been practicing in Colorado since 1998 and is well-known for serving the fertility needs of couples in the region, including a large number of military families.  He was previously the founder and Medical Director of Magarelli Fertility Centers, LLC. Before that, he ran High Quality Affordable Fertility Centers, LLC, and Reproductive Medicine and Fertility Centers, LLC.  Dr. Magarelli has presented and published groundbreaking research in integrating Eastern (Acupuncture) and Western medical treatments for infertility. Today, he continues to investigate the role of Traditional Chinese Medicine in treating IVF patients, forging the way for future treatment breakthroughs. Among his many accomplishments, Dr. Magarelli was honored as the recipient of the Reproductive Scientist Award by the American Society for Reproductive Medicine, the Practicing Physicians Award by the Pacific Coast Reproductive Society (PCRS), and recipient of the Pioneers in Integrated Reproductive Medicine Award. Dr. Magarelli is also a Medical Advisor to the ABORM and Reproductive Industry Partners, a past faculty member at Yo San University and the University of New Mexico, founder of the Institute for Sustained Health, founder of US Military Family Fertility Services 501 c3, and Past President of the PCRS.     He is a graduate of Duke University Health Sciences Residency and UCLA RE&I Fellowship program. He earned his Ph.D. in Nutritional Biochemistry and Physiology at the University of Arizona and is a frequent presenter on topics such as infertility, PCOS, Menopause, Andropause, and the treatment of Insulin Resistance.    https://www.cnyfertility.com/our-team-members/paul-magarelli/ For more information about Michelle, visit www.michelleoravitz.com The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2149554308396504/ Instagram: @thewholesomelotusfertility Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewholesomelotus/

Today, I'm talking with Tanya Smith, a fellow TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) practitioner and ABORM fellow. I invited her on the podcast, because she is someone who I've really looked up to over the years. I met her when I did a summer student internship at her clinic, over 10 years ago and she has been a mentor, colleague, and friend ever since. I've even seen her for treatments over the years. Today, we talk a lot about fertility, grief, and movement through the process. We discuss expectations and body image. TCM vs conventional medical ways of looking at the body and the type of clinical experience you might have in either of these models. We talk about her own fertility journey as part of a same sex couple and the ebbs and flows of that experience. And she shares a WHOLE lot of wisdom and advice. Links: Tanya Smith Michelle Kapler Fertility Academy Facebook Community

Dr. Magarelli is a nationally noted Board-Certified Reproductive Endocrinology & Infertility (REI) specialist at CNY Fertility’s Colorado Springs location. He has been practicing in Colorado since 1998 and is well-known for serving the fertility needs of couples in the region, including a large number of military families.  He was previously the founder and Medical Director of Magarelli Fertility Centers, LLC. Before that, he ran High Quality Affordable Fertility Centers, LLC, and Reproductive Medicine and Fertility Centers, LLC.  Dr. Magarelli has presented and published groundbreaking research in integrating Eastern (Acupuncture) and Western medical treatments for infertility. Today, he continues to investigate the role of Traditional Chinese Medicine in treating IVF patients, forging the way for future treatment breakthroughs. Among his many accomplishments, Dr. Magarelli was honored as the recipient of the Reproductive Scientist Award by the American Society for Reproductive Medicine, the Practicing Physicians Award by the Pacific Coast Reproductive Society (PCRS), and recipient of the Pioneers in Integrated Reproductive Medicine Award. Dr. Magarelli is also a Medical Advisor to the ABORM and Reproductive Industry Partners, a past faculty member at Yo San University and the University of New Mexico, founder of the Institute for Sustained Health, founder of US Military Family Fertility Services 501 c3, and Past President of the PCRS.     He is a graduate of Duke University Health Sciences Residency and UCLA RE&I Fellowship program. He earned his Ph.D. in Nutritional Biochemistry and Physiology at the University of Arizona and is a frequent presenter on topics such as infertility, PCOS, Menopause, Andropause, and the treatment of Insulin Resistance.    https://www.cnyfertility.com/our-team-members/paul-magarelli/ For more information about Michelle, visit www.michelleoravitz.com The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2149554308396504/ Instagram: @thewholesomelotusfertility Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewholesomelotus/

For more than 18 years, Dr. Marc Sklar (aka The Fertility Expert)  has been helping couples struggling to conceive empower their fertility naturally with his online fertility programs and virtual consultations.    He’s the creator of FertilityTV, a youtube channel dedicated to natural fertility with over 100,000 subscribers, the founder of the Reproductive Wellness Clinic in San Diego California and the clinical director of MarcSklar.com helping couples via online programs and virtual coaching.   He has extensive experience and expertise in treating and resolving the causes of infertility and recurrent pregnancy loss with classical Acupuncture and Chinese Medicines. A Doctor of Acupuncture and Chinese Medicine, Board Certified Herbalist and Oriental Medicine Practitioner, and President of the American Board of Oriental Reproductive Medicine (ABORM), Sklar approaches his patients with an open mind, compassion and a medically integrative perspective.   Since completing his master’s degree, Marc has studied with many prominent figures in the field of Oriental Medicine, as well as the Western medical world at large. Working closely with his mentor, local fertility specialist Donna Keefe, Marc has been trained and certified in the treatment of infertility and women’s health.    Marc has also trained at the Harvard Medical School, Mind/Body Medical Institute under Dr. Herbert Benson, M.D. and Peg Baim, M.S., N.P., where he became certified in Mind/Body Medicine.   www.marcsklar.com https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCckJrww4bImdjwPFvr631zA   For more information about Michelle, visit www.thewholesomelotus.com For information on the Wholesome Fertility Method online program visit www.thewholesomefertilitymethod.com The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2149554308396504/ Instagram: @thewholesomelotusfertility Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewholesomelotus/

Katherine Alexander Anderson is a Doctor of Acupuncture and Chinese Medicine, international speaker, published author, researcher and Executive Director of the American Board of Oriental Reproductive Medicine (ABORM).  Katherine takes an integrative, evidence-based approach to medicine and enjoys educating both her peers and patients alike.   She has over 25 years experience in healthcare and has dedicated her practice to reproductive issues and women’s health.  She works with patients in her private clinics in Maine and New Hampshire as well as online through her virtual sessions and online programs.   As the Executive Director and immediate past president of ABORM, she has been on the forefront of ensuring that Chinese medical practitioners across the globe specializing in infertility receive the highest level of training.   In addition to running her busy clinics and lecturing on infertility, Katherine is getting ready to defend her PhD thesis on the impact of Chinese medicine on menstrual cycle regulation and time to conception.   For more information about Katherine, visit  www.rhythmsforwomen.com For more information about Michelle, visit www.thewholesomelotus.com For information on the Wholesome Fertility Method online program visit www.thewholesomefertilitymethod.com The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2149554308396504/ Instagram: @thewholesomelotusfertility Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewholesomelotus/

On this episode of The Wealthy Wellthy Podcast, I interview Denise Wiesner. Denise is certified by ABORM, the American Board of Oriental Reproductive Medicine, she is the founder of Natural Healing & Acupuncture in West Los Angeles, California, a certified sex coach, Licensed Acupuncturist, and herbalist. Denise has been in practice since 1994 with an emphasis on women’s issues and pain control. She treats women’s conditions in various stages of life – from menstrual disorders, infertility, pregnancy to menopause. She is also the author of Conceiving With Love: A whole body approach to creating intimacy, reigniting passion, and increasing fertility    In this conversation, Denise and I explore topics ranging from sex and intimacy to the chemistry and physiology of arousal. We talk about communication and the role it plays in achieving a more pleasurable sex life, interestingly Denise shares that shame or fear is the most common reason people avoid speaking with their partner about sex. Despite this age of sexual liberation Denise regularly has clients who suffer from shame after comparing themselves to porn or media. Denise expresses how important passion is and sometimes it's just the little things we forget to do, kissing your partner or forgetting to have long embraces. Something as simple as looking at them and making eye contact can aid in bringing down the barrier in communication and intimacy. We talk about women struggling with conception and the many factors that contribute to the issue including stress, diet, and environment. In our “busy lives” we sometimes forget to just slow down, Denise tells me that taking some time to meditate or just “be” can really help lower stress, improve vital energy and help create a better environment for conception. For women approaching menopause, Denise has a list of items that when introduced into a diet can help negate some of the effects menopause has on sex. We even talk about some secrets behind the big O. If you want to get more intimate and connected with your partner be sure to listen to this episode.   For show notes and more info visit: http://wealthywellthy.life/157 

Has TTC made your mojo go MIA? There's a book to help you find it! This conversation with Denise Wiesner, a fellow ABORM certified acupuncturist, is packed with tips from the taoist traditions of chinese Medicine to help you forget about conceiving and get back to loving, literally.  Download the first chapter of her book here https://www.denisewiesner.com/book

Interview with Katherine Alexander Anderson Katherine (MBA, DACM, LAc, FABORM) entered into the study and practice of TCM for infertility through her own personal experience with reproductive challenges. She has an extensive background in the medical field and has operated reproductive health clinics in both New Hampshire and Maine for the last decade. In this interview she highlights her clinical knowledge of treating couples with unexplained infertility with 'Whole Systems Traditional Chinese Medicine'. As the president of the American Board of Oriental Reproductive Medicine (ABORM) she is a strong advocate for patients utilizing properly certified TCM reproductive health specialists when choosing this avenue of care.   ~ Spence Email katherine@rhythmsforwomen.com Websites http://www.rhythmsforwomen.com http://www.thefertiletruth.com Professional Profile Bachelor of Science, Health Management & Policy, University of New Hampshire Master of Business Administration, University of New Hampshire Masters of Acupuncture & Oriental Medicine, New England School of Acupuncture Doctorate of Acupuncture & Chinese Medicine, Pacific College of Oriental Medicine PhD Candidate, Nanjing University of Chinese Medicine Licensed to practice Chinese medicine in Maine and New Hampshire Professional Achievements Founded almost 10 years ago, and still operating today, a very busy fertility and women's health TCM clinic. I founded this at a time when many said you couldn't just specialize in fertility and women's health and you had to treat everything to survive. I said "if you don't specialize, you won't specialize:". If I you want to know a lot about something then you have to put your heart and soul into learning everything you can. So I did.  Taking over ABORM after the death of the founder was a huge challenge. I was honored that Ray knew I could do it based on my business degree/experience and success running my own clinic, but to do and do it well during a time of grieving by a membership that respected him was uniquely challenging . There were a lot of sleepless nights and stressful days feeling the pressure to ensure the organization survived. My leadership skills just instinctively took over and I developed a foundational structure for the organization that hadn't existed before so that it could withstand the current team and time.  I am honored that at this point in my career I have been asked to share some of my knowledge and wisdom with others. I have been asked to speak again at TCM Kongress for the 3rd time next year, recently spoke at the Evidence Based Acupuncture Symposium to help spread awareness of the research surrounding our profession and just completed writing an article in the Journal of Chinese Medicine on Unexplained Infertility that was a rewarding experience. I am passionate about our medicine and its ability to help fertility patients and love being a conduit, spreading the word in any way possible whether speaking to groups of patients or practitioners. Professional Experience Former VP of Operations for long term care organization Former director of patient service centers for national diagnostic laboratory organization Founder/Clinical Director/TCM doc - Rhythms Center of Women's Health

Trauma and Abuse impact our nervous system, cardiovascular system, our biochemistry, as well as our muscles. We become vulnerable to health concerns including fibromyalgia, cancer, infections, and Chronic Fatigue. As we heal our lives, emotions, and personality, we also need to help our body's recovery.  Dr. Van Der Kolk, world-renowned trauma specialist explains that the body's health tracks the trauma, remembering each event physiologically.  So, we need to help our body's heal. We will discuss various perspectives and healing modalities from both western and eastern medical perspectives with expert Dr. Lori Deutsch, D.A.O.M., L.Ac., Dipl. O.M. (FABORM).  Dr. Deutsch is a Doctor of Acupuncture and Chinese Medicine and a California licensed acupuncturist. She is nationally board certified in Oriental medicine, acupuncture, Chinese herbs, and biomedicine, and a Fellow of the American Board of Oriental and Reproductive Medicine (ABORM). She has a strong practice in functional medicine and nutrition and is certified in functional medicine by The Kalish Institute. She also has completed coursework with the Institute of Functional Medicine (IFM)."  She can be contacted at 310-922-8293, lori@lorideutsch.com and her website is lorideutsch.com.  Dr. Carol Francis, Clinical Psychologist,  author of Paths To Recovery After Abuse and Trauma has been working for 40 years helping men and women recover. DrCarolFrancis.com 310-543-1824.  This interview is part of the courses available through Paths To Recovery After Abuse and Trauma.  

World-renowned reproductive urologist Dr. Turek joins us today. He has been at the forefront of IVF and ICSI since the early 90’s. He shares the latest happenings in both his research and his clinics in San Francisco and Beverly Hills, along with the ways Eastern Medicine compliments Western treatment, his thoughts on prenatals, single gene vs. chromosomal gene mutations, the sobering reality of advanced paternal age and some groundbreaking discoveries that are both provocative and backed by science. He is a soulful and lighthearted clinician and is committed to making things as easy and relatable as possible for his clients.   To share your own fertility story, please email me at hillary@ladypotions.com. I look forward to connecting with you, as you are what this podcast is all about.   Takeaway: [:01] Dr. Turerk advises the ABORM board that I am a fellow of, and is a graduate of both Yale and Stanford University. He teaches at Yo San University and has countless studies he has both authored and advised. The first time I heard him speak at the International Infertility Symposium in Vancouver in 2015, I was blown away. He was so intelligent and generous with his ideas and research and really was the first person that made male fertility issues relatable to me. [3:01] Dr. Turek explains his comparison of a semen analysis to a game of cards. When the motility is not normal, that is an indicator to him that something isn’t right. [9:18] The whole story is not all about the semen analysis, but it’s a good way to begin the conversation of man’s habits when it comes to diet, recreational drug use, lifestyle, weight, etc. Dr. Turek is captivated by the thought of going into a deeper dive of the cause behind the semen’s quality and performance. [11:17] As a TCM practitioner, I feel like I was taught about epigenetics with different languaging, referring to our Jing or essence being affected by our lifestyle dictating what we will pass down. Dr. Turek confirms that science has proven it correct in epigenetic studies that lifestyle really does matter. [14:02] Dr. Turek explains what epigenetics is, and how he helped to develop Episona, a test for epigenetics and sperm quality through sperm analysis. [17:15] We discuss how epigenetics may be related to oxidative stress. Oxidative stress is about 30-80% of the cause of male infertility. [18:05] The data for men taking a prenatal is very strong, and is something Dr. Turek recommends and actually developed a supplement for men. The data is still getting more compiled on this, and the research in the field is still new and emerging. Men are not the easiest subjects to keep engaged in study, however, and he is committed to making it easy and sensible for them to share information and data in his studies. [25:34] The richest man in America lives 5-7 years less than the poorest women. Dr. Turker has an attitude of wanting to engage men and building their trust so they are part of the solution in making their own health better. One of his main goals out of his career is to have men live longer. [27:25] Dr. Turek shares the current state of advanced paternal age. Himself and co-author Alex Yatsenko published a review entitled, “Reproductive Genetics in the Aging Male” This is a recent problem, as we haven’t lived this long, people are waiting longer to reproduce and we are exposed to more toxicity than ever, affected our epigenetic expression. [32:56] Dr. Turek talks about the chromosomal issues that occur in women, vs. the single gene mutations in men. He also addresses birth defect rates differing in other countries, and if low sperm counts are being passed on through generations. [43:33] Dr. Turek has created what I think to be the first Darwinian Obstacle Course. [54:14] A lot of unexplained infertility can be cleared with a simple visit to a trusted source. Dr. Turek makes it as easy as possible and does virtual consultations. He likes to first see if it’s a good fit, and speak with both partners at the start to select the appropriate care for their situation. [56:57] Work with what you have. [60:40] Clinic by the Bay, Dr. Turek’s free clinic, just had a big fundraiser to help people from all walks of life receive medical care.   References: Fertile Minds on LibSyn Fertile Minds on iTunes American Board of Oriental Reproductive Medicine Reproductive genetics and the aging male Turek on Men’s Health Blog Turek Clinic Episona Clinic By the Bay Yo San University   Continue Your Journey: Link to sign up for free 29-day meditation challenge @ladypotions4u on Twitter @ladypotions4u on Instagram My Website: Ladypotions.com Special Thanks to Christopher Lloyd Clarke for music   Disclaimer * You must not rely on the information in this podcast as an alternative to medical advice from your doctor or another professional healthcare provider. If you have any specific questions about any medical matter you should consult your doctor or another professional healthcare provider. If you think you may be suffering from any medical condition you should seek immediate medical attention. You should never delay seeking medical advice, disregard medical advice, or discontinue medical treatment because of information on this website or in this podcast.

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