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Safire is pioneering advanced electrification solutions for defense applications, transforming how military operations are powered in austere environments. With $11 Million in funding and over $7 million in government contracts secured just this year, Safire is developing revolutionary technology to make batteries safer and more efficient for defense applications. In this episode of Category Visionaries, I spoke with John Lee, CEO and Founder of Safire, to learn about the company's journey from a core nanoparticle technology to a full suite of defense electrification products that are changing how soldiers operate in the field. Topics Discussed: Safire's revolutionary silicon nanoparticle technology that transforms lithium-ion batteries into "non-Newtonian fluids" that solidify upon impact The company's evolution from core R&D to developing multiple defense products, including tactical electric dirt bikes, battery-infused body armor, and deployable microgrids The process of securing government contracts and navigating defense appropriations The importance of building relationships with end users in the military and understanding their needs John's background as a Navy contracting officer and former head of government contracts at Palantir Safire's approach to brand development as part of their path to becoming a unicorn   GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Put mission first to attract talent and customers: John's commitment to protecting lives became his driving force after his experience procuring counter-IED jammers that saved soldiers' lives. He explains, "I couldn't really do anything besides, whatever I do, I want to help protect and save lives." This clear mission has helped him attract talent, customers, and investors who share this vision, demonstrating how a compelling purpose can accelerate GTM efforts. Listen to customer needs before defining your product roadmap: Rather than forcing a single-product strategy, Safire let customer requirements guide their development. As John noted, "We really focused on customer first. And if the customer said, I want you to be just one product company... that may have been okay. But that's not what the customer was asking for." By building solutions to address real military needs, Safire has secured multiple contracts across different applications. Use government R&D contracts as a runway to production: Safire strategically leveraged Small Business Innovation Research (SBIR) contracts to fund their early development while creating a path to larger production contracts. John advises, "It's really important to understand... all the effort it takes to go from the R&D contract into production into program of record and [to] prepare for it." He warns against the "if I build it they'll come" mentality that leads many startups to fail. Invest in lobbying early for long-term ROI: The company prioritized hiring lobbyists immediately after raising their seed round. John revealed, "The $4.5 million contract that we just got awarded last month came from our lobbying efforts... from two and a half years ago. And that was the very first third-party payment I was making as soon as we raised our seed round." This demonstrates how early investment in government relations can deliver substantial returns for defense tech companies. Brand sophistication matters in defense tech: Breaking with industry norms, Safire invested significantly in professional branding before their Series A. John explains this decision: "Every unicorn status company had a great brand before they became a unicorn status company... When we're walking through four-star generals and three-star generals into our offices, into our skiffs... we want to be trusted and we also want to be seen as a sophisticated, responsible contractor." This approach has helped them stand out in an industry where branding is often neglected.   //   Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe.  www.GlobalTalent.co

Hey Wildlings! Do you believe in rooting for the underdog? What about the under-eagle? 45 years ago the US Olympic hockey team didn't have a snowball's chance in heck of beating the stronger, faster Russian team — but somehow they did! Evan takes us back to the “Miracle On Ice” and reports in person from where the magic happened in Lake Placid, NY. Think you're sharp? See if you can hold your own in Concentration 64 as Evan and Nichole face off in this hand-clapping, rhythmic battle of wits. Nichole talks to educator and parenting expert Jayme Yannuzzi of Teach Talk Inspire about what it's like to be a momfluencer, and learns how easy it is to make the icky, gooey non-Newtonian liquid known as Oobleck. We learn about the Russian Revolution through Nichole's experience in the musical “Anastasia,” and in Cryptid Corner Evan finally features a creature that might actually exist, but also might be a Russian spy. Our newest segment “Animal Calls” features a particularly prickly little guy, and we serve up all your favorite recurring segments like jokes, Favorite Sound, Grandparent Story, and an ice-cold riddle that's sure to freeze you in your tracks. Let's get wild!Timestamps for this episode are available below. Parents: visit our website to help your kids contribute jokes or favorite sounds, or to send us a message:  www.wildinterest.com/submissions00:00 - Episode 12 Intro02:07 - Evan's Miracle on Ice07:00 - Riddle Clue07:18 - Anastasia13:07 - Animal Call Clue13:38 - Favorite Sound15:07 - Concentration 6419:13 - Animal Call Reprise19:34 - Cryptid Corner: Mermaid, Whale, or Spy?22:40 - Joke Time23:39 - Call for Submissions24:06 - Grandparent Stories: Vincas30:10 - Animal Call Reveal31:46 - Jayme Yanuzzi of Teach Talk Inspire41:11 - Riddle Answer41:32 - Preview of Episode 1341:43 - Call for Reviews + Word of Mouth42:00 - Credits42:22 - Blooperswildinterest.com

Patrick explores the promise and challenges of artificial intelligence, sharing how advances in technology are transforming healthcare, raising new moral questions, and quickly changing how society works. He highlights the importance of approaching these changes thoughtfully and through the lens of faith, encouraging listeners to stay informed and wise as technology continues to advance at a rapid pace. Patrick continues his conversation with Charles from the last hour talking about AI singularity and its possible connection Revelations and to the number of the beast (00:32) Andy - I don't understand the confusion about AI. It’s clearly not human. It’s a machine and always will be and it only exists in manmade environments. (16:11) Alice - I baptized all of my grandkids what do you think? (19:46) Tom – I’m a pioneering AI developer and physicist. We are still beholden to Newtonian physics. (28:21) Elsa - Why didn’t they use a funeral palm for Pope Francis's funeral mass? (38:18) Jose - How do I evangelize to a Muslim? (44:59)

In this reality-rattling episode, Steve Falconer of Spacebusters joins InnerVerse to challenge the official story of Antarctica — and with it, the entire cosmological structure we've been taught to trust.We break down:❄️ The “Final Experiment” video and its deception

On today's episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, I am joined by fertility expert, acupuncturist, and conscious work practitioner, Lorne Brown @lorne_brown_official. Originally a CPA, Lorne's personal health journey led him to discover the transformative power of Chinese medicine, ultimately changing his career path. Now, as a leader in integrative fertility care and the host of The Conscious Fertility Podcast, Lorne bridges the gap between science and spirituality to help individuals optimize their fertility and overall well-being. In this episode, Lorne shares how conscious work plays a powerful role in fertility, explaining how subconscious beliefs and emotional resistance can impact reproductive health. He discusses the mind-body connection, the importance of inner healing, and how shifting from stress to flow can create profound changes. Whether you're on a fertility journey or simply looking to align with your highest self, this conversation is packed with insights on conscious transformation, holistic healing, and the power of perception.   Key Takeaways: Lorne's personal journey from accountant to acupuncturist and fertility expert. How Chinese medicine and holistic healing transformed his health and career. The mind-body connection and how stress impacts fertility. How subconscious beliefs shape our reality and can either block or support conception. The power of inner work and emotional healing in reproductive health. How shifting from resistance to receptivity can improve fertility outcomes. The role of consciousness in creating meaningful change in health and life. Insights from The Conscious Fertility Podcast and how Lorne helps patients find balance through a holistic and energetic approach. Guest Bio: Dr. Lorne Brown @lorne_brown_official is a leader in integrative fertility care, blending Chinese medicine, mind-body healing, and cutting-edge therapies. A former Chartered Professional Accountant (CPA), his personal health journey led him to acupuncture, herbal medicine, and holistic fertility support. As the founder of Acubalance Wellness Centre, he introduced low-level laser therapy (LLLT) for fertility and pioneered IVF acupuncture in Vancouver. He also created Healthy Seminars, an online education platform, and hosts The Conscious Fertility Podcast, where he explores the intersection of science, consciousness, and reproductive health. Websites/Social Media Links: Learn more about Lorne Brown, visit his website hereFollow Lorne Brown on InstagramListen to Conscious Fertility Podcast For more information about Michelle, visit www.michelleoravitz.com To learn more about ancient wisdom and fertility, you can get Michelle's book at: https://www.michelleoravitz.com/thewayoffertility The Wholesome Fertility facebook group is where you can find free resources and support: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2149554308396504/ Instagram: @thewholesomelotusfertility   -------- Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care. ----- Transcript: [00:00:00]  Welcome to the Wholesome Fertility [00:01:00] Podcast. I'm Michelle, a fertility acupuncturist here to provide you with resources on how to create a wholesome approach to your fertility journey. **Michelle Oravitz:** Welcome to the podcast, Lauren. **Lorne Brown:** Hey, Michelle, glad to be together with you over whatever we call this technology. I think yours is the Riverside. Yeah, I had a good time interviewing you for my Conscious Fertility podcast, so I'm looking forward to having more conversations with you because that was a lot of fun for me. **Michelle Oravitz:** It was a lot of fun for me too. And I actually it was really, really nice. And to see that we have very similar views just on reality and health and fertility, **Lorne Brown:** Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** it was a lot of fun. And so last week actually for everybody's listening, that was the first time we actually officially met via zoom. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah. But we know each other. We're part of the, the ABORM, right? The Acupuncture TCM Reproductive Board of Medicine but yeah, [00:02:00] like the first time you and I had real conversation rather than chat conversation. **Michelle Oravitz:** Which is awesome. I **Lorne Brown:** Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** it. And I think that we're so aligned in so many ways. I think that we both love the whole bridging of science and spirituality. We're kind of nerds in that department. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** for people listening, I would love if you can introduce yourself. I know we also have, we started out with very different backgrounds. And went into acupuncture, you have like kind of a similar cause you started in accounting, right? **Lorne Brown:** Yeah, so, I am a CPA, so a Certified Professional Accountant back in the day they were called Chartered Accountants in Canada and because of health issues and having such a a response to Chinese medicine in particular eventually I, I was the, one of the controllers and tax guys at this time with ocean spray growers here in B. C. and I left that position so I could go back to school and study Chinese medicine as my second career. So that's kind of a little bit about my background. And then eventually **Michelle Oravitz:** [00:03:00] Like what made you think about doing Chinese medicine? **Lorne Brown:** I was ill. I had um, you know, back in the day, this is in the eighties and early nineties. So this Chinese medicine wasn't as available. This was before websites, right? Where you could really see what other people were doing and learning. And so I had severe gut issues, you know, diagnosis IBS, chronic fatigue, candida and you know, I got scoped through all each end and eventually and I tried different Western approaches and eventually it was the herb, Chinese herbal medicine actually that dramatically changed it so much. So, I mean, I have some memories. I did a bachelor of science first in math. That was my first thing. Then I went and did accounting in McGill. And and then I went and became a CPA, back then CA. They changed the letters for the designation. And I remember when I was at McGill I was already seeing alternative medicine doctors, in particular Chinese medicine. And I remember [00:04:00] s for the first time, how much clarity, because I had, I didn't realize how much brain fog I had. And so the clarity I had, I was in the classroom, I just realized how easy things were going in, and I was just remembering things, and I just felt like things were almost in slow motion in a good way, like a professional athlete when they can see the court. And physically, I just felt I had so much endurance, so much energy. I was just I felt great. And you know, when you've been feeling poorly for so long, That I thought that was normal. And then I got, you know, the illness was so bad while I was early days in my accounting studies at McGill. it interfered with my, my studies. It interfered my life. I almost couldn't get outta bed sometimes with the fatigue and the brain fog. And so I had an I had an aunt who was into this stuff. , I was, wasn't right. Remember, it came from Bachelor's Science Math in Duke County. I was, I think I was always open-minded. Look what I'm doing, but it wasn't kind of on my radar. And she's the one that suggested I see her Chinese herbalist. And you know, I was desperate. I was living in Montreal, Canada. She was living in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. So [00:05:00] I, I got on a plane and flew to see her person because I wouldn't know who to go see right back then. And you know, through dietary changes and herbal medicine. It, it transformed my life and funny story because, you know, I do acupuncture like you do. I always had a fear of needles, right? I never was a big fan of needles. So the first time I was getting acupuncture, the acupuncturist who treated me, I have everybody lying down, but he had me sitting up on the table. Right on the treatment table. I was sitting and he's putting these needles in me and he's like, are you okay? I guess he could see I was going a little green and I'm trying to be, you know, tough guy. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm fine. Next thing I know flop, I passed out on the table. **Michelle Oravitz:** do. **Lorne Brown:** So. Yeah. So now I receive it. I love it. Now I give it. But I did. It's a mind over matter, right? I did have that fear of needles, which is why I started with the herbal medicine. Most people like, Oh, I'll do acupuncture, but they maybe have an aversion to the herbs or the taste of the herbs. I was the other way [00:06:00] around. I got introduced to Chinese medicine through the herbal medicine. And then I was like, Oh, I'll try the acupuncture too. and, you know, I stuck with it, obviously. And, and eventually went back to school and now I can I receive it and I can give it and I have so much compassion for those who have a fear of needles, but usually if they come in and try it, they realize it doesn't feel like needles that you're getting. And now with technology, I have low level laser systems as well. So I can do laser acupuncture for those people that just cannot. Experience acupuncture because it's so stressful for them. **Michelle Oravitz:** Yeah, for sure. So that's that's one of the things or sometimes starting them out with baby needles because the baby needles are really, really, really super thin. You can barely feel it. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah, I mean, I, I mean, I just give them the acupuncture for the first time and, and they're nervous. But, you know, they let me put in one needle, then another, then a third. And that's all I'll do for the first visit for people who have a big phobia. But like you and I know, and those that have received it, it's not like getting a [00:07:00] needle at the doctor when you get a shot or blood drawn. And so you really, you know, once they're in, it takes like a minute to put them in. Then you go and tell a beautiful rest, la la land for 30 to 45 minutes on the table. So all worth it for most. **Michelle Oravitz:** totally worth it. For sure. So talk about why you got into fertility specifically. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah, and I'll keep it short, but it was, it was never my intention. My intention was to treat gut issues, digestive issues, because that's what brought me to the medicine. So I thought I'd be, and that's what I set out to do, IBS, irritable bowel syndrome, Crohn's, colitis, severe bloating, constipation, diarrhea, that kind of stuff is what I thought I would be seeing. and I did see a lot of that, and in our medicine, when we treat, we do a very Detailed history and we treat holistically so we can't just focus on the gut health just like for fertility We don't just focus on the women's ovaries, right? We focus holistically and so most people that come to health professionals back then And [00:08:00] I started in 2000 and now still are female And so I'd always do a menstrual history and the the menstrual history is such a great guide for health, right? We can get so much information. That's why I prefer treating women over men. I treat both women who are menstruating. Help me diagnose them from a Chinese medicine perspective because I get so much information from their cycle history. And so as I was treating their bloating in their IBS, or they're alternating between, you know, constipation and diarrhea, or even colitis and Crohn's symptoms. They noticed their PMS went away, they noticed their menstrual pain went away, their irregular bleeding, the spotting, all those things changed. So I became popular. with women's health in general. So I was just doing women's health. So I was seeing people with perimenopause and menopausal symptoms and with painful periods. That was what I was seeing. And back then, again, the web wasn't a popular thing. I was advertising a magazine with a focus in women's health. And this woman who found me was going through an IVF and she was [00:09:00] going to see one of our colleagues, Randine Lewis, in Houston. So I'm in Vancouver and she flew to Houston to see Randine because this was before Zoom. And she, Randine told her she needs regular acupuncture at least once a week so she's going to enter herbal medicine. So she has to find somebody local because it wasn't reasonable or cost effective for her to fly weekly to Houston from Vancouver, right? Nobody was focusing on fertility, but she found me women's health. So she came to my clinic and told me her story and asked if I'd be willing to follow Randine's acupuncture prescriptions and her herbal suggestions and do that for her in Vancouver. And I kind of said cheek cheekily, but in a funny way, in a cute way, as a non aggressive way. So basically you want me to be like a monkey. And put the points where Randine tells you, tells me, and prescribe the herbs where Randine how Randine tells me. She goes, yeah. And I'm like, I'm in. That sounds great. I get to learn from somebody. Because what our audience doesn't know, [00:10:00] Randine was already focusing with fertility. And she had already had this draft book, which came out shortly after, called The Infertility Cure. First of many of her books. So, I thought it was a great opportunity to be able to learn from somebody with more experience and, and not have responsibility to the outcome. And so, and then women who are going through IVF and struggling with fertility, they talk and By 2004, I only would take reproductive health issues. That was all I would take because I was too busy, and I started hiring associates and training them because I couldn't handle the load myself. Now, here we are recording this in 2025 I have multiple associates in our clinic. And that do focus on fertility and myself personally, I still see a lot of reproductive health. But I'm so into the conscious work now. Cause I have low level laser therapy that we use for fertility, but I use that for so many other things. Brain health pain, pain injury. And I do a lot with pure menopausal symptoms. So, I would say, and half my practice, when I look at my [00:11:00] schedule is conscious work. Right? Is that mind body work? Half my practice is that. They still get acupuncture and low level laser therapy as part of the treatment but they're coming in with, I'm wanting belief change work. and I do see a lot of reproductive health, but I see everything now. So it's, it's kind of gone full circle. Because of the conscious work, because conscious work is my passion. And so whoever comes in the door that's looking for change, they may want a relationship change or want a relationship, job changes, finances. They want a baby, they want a healing. Basically, they want to be happy and they realize they can't get it from the outside. So they're looking for help on the inside to have that transformation. And that's why we use it for fertility because it's such a powerful tool when you can heal the mind, the body follows really well. **Michelle Oravitz:** Yeah. No doubt. So talk about the conscious work, specifically. What does it entail? Mm-hmm **Lorne Brown:** Yeah, well, I'm trained also as a clinical hypnotherapist, and I've done a lot of what they call energy psychology modalities. So I'm trained in [00:12:00] Psyche, emotional freedom technique, Bankstein healing method, you know, energy type medicine. But from the clinical hypnotherapy perspective and what I would call conscious work, it's inner work. It's waking up to your true nature. It's waking up to what some people would call higher self, what they would call consciousness witness consciousness. You'd have to be open and appreciate that there's more to this world than meets the eyes. And so we have a Newtonian science world, what's considered a materialistic world, and those are things that we can kind of measure. And then there's the science, the new science called quantum physics. Which understands there's so much more to this reality than what we see and when you have these shifts inside it has your your perception to the world You see it differently and you can think of it as if you live in a building Let's say your your life is a building, you know On the first floor if that's where you live, you're going to have a certain perspective of what your neighborhood is And it's going to be very limited because you can only see from the first floor. And as you move up, if the 20 store [00:13:00] building, if you live above 10 and you start to live on the 15th floor, you have a different perspective of what is in your neighborhood than the person who lives on the first floor. And so conscious work is about kind of getting to a different perspective. I we know, you know, through so much more research now that we perceive the world. Through the lenses of our subconscious programming, you know, and so how we see the world is through the lens of our subconscious and that subconscious programming is is inherited and imprinted on us inherited like literally few generations before we know this through um, research on Holocaust survivors and their children and grandchildren. And we know this through the study, the cherry blossom study on mice were stressed and traumatized and it got passed down to their grand pups. I won't go into the study because it's **Michelle Oravitz:** and DNA. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah, it gets tagged. It's not a genetic mutation, it's a tag. So it can, one generation get tagged, and one generation you can heal it. So, you see the world through the lens of your subconscious, and that lens is based on your history. And [00:14:00] so, I heard a teacher of consciousness once say, Reality's white snow, let's pretend that. And then you have red glasses. I have orange glasses. Some of the listeners have blue, green, white, yellow. We're all seeing white snow, but we're all experiencing it, perceiving it differently because of our lens. And if we want to have a different experience to see that reality, we got to change our lens. **Michelle Oravitz:** Yes. **Lorne Brown:** You know, or we're both fans of Joe Dispenza, right? We both run retreats, and **Michelle Oravitz:** we're Joe Dispenza groupies. **Lorne Brown:** yeah, I like, I like his work. I like his retreats and his books. And in his book, Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself, I think it's where he said it. I've read all of his books and been to many retreats, but I really liked how he said your personal reality is based on your personality. And you can't have, how do you expect to have a different reality if you bring your current personality into your future? You're gonna get the same thing. Right. And so this is about having that shift because, you know, we're going kind of into a rabbit hole here, but if you're open for it, **Michelle Oravitz:** No, I'm totally open for it. And my, my listeners are used [00:15:00] to it, **Lorne Brown:** okay, you know, God, I see they're allowed to, or Gandhi, I've seen this quote attributed to both, but it kind of goes like your beliefs lead to your thoughts, which lead to your feelings, which lead to your actions and behaviors, which lead to your habits. which leads to your destiny. Basically they're saying is your behaviors are always congruent with your beliefs. And when they conflict the program, the belief is going to win. And if you do a behavior long enough, it becomes your habit. So it becomes a reality. So we often want to go and work on the outside world. We often want to go work on a behavior, but the behavior stems from a belief or a program often unconscious. And so we'll self sabotage ourselves, even though we really want to lose that weight. We go and we diet, we exercise, but that's a behavior. But if you have a program that, you know, I'm not beautiful, right, or I'm not thin enough, then the subconscious wants congruency, and it will find a way to sabotage that. [00:16:00] Consciously or unconsciously, it'll happen. And so rather than going to work on the behavior, we go to work on the program, and then it flows down, and the behavior changes naturally. **Michelle Oravitz:** It's so true. And it's almost that, you know, that saying whether you think whether you Think you can or can't  **Lorne Brown:** you're right. Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** it's just a matter of what we choose and I think the key with this is that people don't even realize It's almost like they're so asleep in the matrix **Lorne Brown:** Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** is such a great movie, by the way, because of that reason, it really shows us how, if we just knew that that was the case, **Lorne Brown:** Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** had those beliefs and it impacts our reality, then we would make a difference. But I think the problem is, is not even knowing that it's even there. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah. Well, of course, and I don't know if the age has changed, but it was my observation that around age 40, people start to realize that they need to do their inner work. the drug doesn't work anymore. The antidepressant isn't working, [00:17:00] or they're in a third relationship. It's not working. They change cities. Like it's not working. The changing the outside is only temporary. So somewhere around 40, maybe it's younger now cause things seem to be speeding up, but around age 40 people come in there and they don't know what they're looking for, but they know they're looking for it. And you and I have language for this, right? They're looking for inner work, conscious work, but they kind of know that I know by getting a new relationship, it's not going to help. I got it. Something's not right. about me. And I, you know, I'm going to give an example because the relationship one comes up a lot in my practice when people come and see me. and I share this as an example of self sabotaging programs and why I like the conscious work. And we can talk about how this plays with fertility as well and baby manifestation. This actually wasn't my patient, but it was somebody who shared it. And I loved this case so much because it, it really is a great explanation of of belief change. So She was around 45. She was a lawyer and she had become aware that she was somehow sabotaging relationships. No matter what [00:18:00] relationship she went in, like she would find some not such great guys in her opinion, but she actually realized she found some good guys too. But for some reason, even she knew there was a button and she, she knew she shouldn't push that button, but she would push the button even in her mind when she knew this isn't going to work out. And the, and the relationship would collapse. So at her clinical hypnotherapy session, She got regressed and in this regression, she's experiencing herself as a four year old and she's remembering her mom is making dinner for her and her older sister was around seven and she promises the girls that they get popsicles if they eat all their dinner. So her older sister. Eats her dinner fairly quickly and gets a popsicle. And she, she being for living in that theta brainwave living in the moment, it's not eating quickly. And all of a sudden she sees her sister with a popsicle and she goes, I want a popsicle and her mom's tired end of day. And she angrily says, no, you haven't eaten your dinner. You don't get your dinner to you. You don't get your popsicle till you finish your [00:19:00] dinner. And it probably wasn't said in a loving way. And this triggered the four year old. And like many four year olds, she got. You know, she had a little four year old temper tantrum, and that set off her mom, and then she got sent off. To her room without dinner and without popsicle. And in her story, she's thinking in her dialogue that mommy likes, mommy likes and loves my sister more than me. Mommy doesn't love me. I'm not lovable. And she has this aha moment when that program really started for her. I'm not lovable. Now, remember I said the subconscious and the conscious want congruency. The heart and mind want congruency. When it conflicts, the heart, the shen, the subconscious, wins. And so, she would have a relationship, and if this guy was doting and loving her, her subconscious goes, that's not who we are, we're unlovable. And she would Consciously or unconsciously sabotage the relationship. So in hypnotherapy work, we're able to bring her 45 year old self back and reparent doing her [00:20:00] child work and shift that. And I often say in my practice, I have a an approach. Notice, accept, choose again. Notice everything is neutral and we give it meaning. Neutral. She just did not get a popsicle. Neutral. The meaning she gave it was I'm not lovable, right? And children that are in theta, meaning they're in, they're sponges. They don't have that prefrontal development to discern things. They just take things in and we don't know why. But you know, if you're a product of divorce, which a lot of people are It's usually for the children. It does some form of scarring, subconscious scarring, right? Because the children feel like they're responsible. It's their fault. So guilt shows up or shame shows up. Not safe. So all these programs come up and when I distill them down, I see people that are worth hundreds of millions of dollars. I see people that can't afford my services, right? And based on what they get paid, right? And when you distill it down, the stories are, can be very different, but when you still it down, it's I'm not enough, right? I'm not lovable. [00:21:00] I'm not pretty enough. I'm not thin enough. I'm not smart enough. It's kind of, I'm not enough when you distill it down, whether you're worth a couple hundred million or whether you're scraping things together. So. Notice everything is neutral. We give it meaning. And when we believe in the story, we make it real. So this is not to believe in the story. And that's kind of that materialistic side, right? And we use these tools conscious work to go in and clean up the operating system. And here's an important point I want to share with our listeners is You know, you have this hardware, but the hardware functions depending on the software and I got multiple stories like this, but I'll give you a couple, you know, they have done research on those with multiple personality disorders and depending on the personality, right? One will need reading glasses. One will not. One's blood tests will be diabetic and the other one will not. Right? I mean.  **Michelle Oravitz:** to orange juice. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah, when we allergic not so same physical body. So from a journalistic point of view, this makes no sense, but from a quantum perspective, it does. Right. And and we've heard people [00:22:00] with near death experiences. I've, I've heard through a colleague of one before, and I just, I'd met one recently, actually, and she's written a book on it, Anita, where she, yeah, it's great, right? **Michelle Oravitz:** Yeah. Yeah. **Lorne Brown:** So, you know, her story is she. Developed cancer, funny thing, not so funny, but she always had a fear that she would die and get cancer. So, you know, you got to be careful where you're putting your focus, right? She did everything she could to not get cancer. She got cancer and she was ridden with tumors and she's in the hospital and her husband's by her side. And the story goes that she goes unconscious. So they tell her, say goodbye. She, this is it. She's, you know. She's going to die and she's got, they got on some medications too, I believe for pain relief. And I think it was a day or two later, she opens her eyes and she has an experience of a near death experience where we won't go into it today where she sees other. Family members are beings, but not the personalities like she just knew who they were, but she realizes she's coming back and she knew she was coming back [00:23:00] different. It wasn't like a full lobotomy, like 180 degree turn, but she had a personality change, right? And she knew her cancer is gone. And when she woke up, she tried to convince her husband her cancer was gone. And he's like, you know, no, you know, they got the doctors. She was able to re Share stories of conversations that they had outside when she was in the coma in another room. She forbade him. She could, you know, she knew what the doctor's shoes look like, right? Everything. So **Michelle Oravitz:** that's that bird's eye view. **Lorne Brown:** she was outside the body, but her cancer went away without any medication. After that, she woke up from a coma. And her cancer just resolved herself. So there's that personality. So her personality changed and her physical body changed, right? Because of this and going back to our friend Joe Dispenza, Dr. Joseph Dispenza and your listeners check out his book. They're supernatural the placebo and breaking the habit of being yourself. That's a really good one breaking the habit Right. It's a good one to start with. He talks about you can use matter to change matter, which can be slow. That's for our fertility patients taking supplements. [00:24:00] That's IVF, that's diet matter, change matter, or you can use energy to change matter, which can be spontaneous. Like what happened with Anita, which when her cancer went away, right? Is it went away pretty quickly, right? **Michelle Oravitz:** There's people with well, we see it all the time at Joe Dispenza's work stage four cancer. It just, it goes away. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah. So that's working with a different, dimension of yourself, right? If you want to speak. So the conscious work that I use is how to tap into that, how to tune into it. And it came from my experience, right? I, I've learned this and developed this from many people I've studied with. And I'm a kinesthetic learning. That's learner. That's why I've learned psych KFT, Marissa peers, rapid transformational therapy, Ericksonian The guy just. Love it, right? I think it started from insecurity. Not enough, not smart enough. So I kept on doing things which brought me my success outside, but inside it wasn't enough. So I kept on learning and learning and learning. And then eventually, you know, you're brought to your knees, which I was. debilitating anxiety. And I go in and do the [00:25:00] inner work and I have the transformation. And then I'm kind of at peace. Don't feel like I need to do too much. But now there's this new drive, this overflowing, wanted to share. It's a different feeling. It's comes from peace. It doesn't exhaust you. Right. And so I think on the outside, if I was looking at me, I looked. Similar as in go, go, go. Always learning, always doing right. But I was coming from fear and lack for many years, my doing and stuff. So my doing just got me more fear and lack because I could never feel that void. Now I'm going, going, going, but it's coming from feeling more whole and complete and I'm not attached whether I do it or not, right? I'm not attached to it so much. And but yet I'm still doing it. But now I feel Charged by it. **Michelle Oravitz:** That's so great. I mean, don't you see the yin and the yang too, in a lot of this **Lorne Brown:** Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** the harmony, the **Lorne Brown:** Yeah, and you got to keep going into the end So you then you have the young and it happens, right? So, you know, I go inside I become quiet and and then all of a sudden all this [00:26:00] activity and inspire thought comes through me And then I I want to go in and see if I can manifest it, right? **Michelle Oravitz:** Yeah. And everything kind of goes in pulses, you know, there's a, there's pulses, even with like experiences that we have in life, there's ebbs and flows. I think that we get impatient or we think that it's going to be forever, but nothing lasts forever. It's like the good news and the bad news, nothing lasts forever. **Lorne Brown:** Right? Yeah, it's the good news and the bad news. Yeah, in that sense, don't be attached. **Michelle Oravitz:** Yeah, true. **Lorne Brown:** Which is a practice. **Michelle Oravitz:** it is, and it's something that the ancients have been telling us this whole time. They've told us to go within, they've told us not to be too attached, to learn from nature, to learn from what's around us. to flow, flow with it. **Lorne Brown:** And a tip for our listeners, because again, I teach what I've experienced. Many people may be going, well, I've read these books and I know all this stuff and I haven't had a shift. I was that guy where I had read everything and took courses, but I didn't do the process work. I, I conceptually understood it. I could teach it. But I wasn't living it. And it wasn't until I actually did the process work that the [00:27:00] transformation started happening, the awakening started happening. And so that's kind of, you know, with my patients, when I work with them, they want to get in the head and understand, which I love. We got to understand when you understand the why behind it, they say that the how becomes easier. The why is, you know, how does it work? And then the how is, what are you going to do? But if it's just an intellectual discussion you'll have a mind shift. But you won't have a trait change. And what's the difference? A mind shift is that temporary, you feel excited, this makes sense. It feels excited, but it's a shift. It's like when you pull an elastic band apart, it's neuro elasticity, it stretches out, this feels good. But within an hour or two, or a day or two, it goes back to its normal shape. So you haven't made a neuroplastic change, you just made a mindset shift. And if you do that daily, multiple times, it eventually become neuroplastic. And what I mean neuroplastic is if you stretch out a piece of soft plastic and you let go, it stays stretched. So that's the trait change. So repetition or doing many things that create a mind shift regularly often will give you [00:28:00] neuroplasticity changes, right? That hold becomes a trait. That's that, you know, do certain actions over and over again. So that's one way. But then there's other. faster ways to do neuroplastic changes, which doesn't just require repetition. That is one of them, but there's other processes I use. Part of my hypnosis practices and other energy psychology tools is what they're often called now to help make that neuroplastic change, not just from repetition, but from doing these Process work and we call it process work because it's not it's not done. It's a it's a bottom up process versus a top down So i'm not a counselor a therapist. That would be somebody who's doing a top down Let's talk about this and there's some benefit to it. The clinical hypnotherapist perspective is a bottom up meaning Your tyra box said this once your issues are stuck in your tissues So when you have these emotions rarely does somebody say I feel it in my head It does happen once in a while. Most people feel it in their throat, in their chest, in their stomach. It's in your cells. And we got science to talk about [00:29:00] how the microbiome changes with stress and emotions. **Michelle Oravitz:** images of people, all people that were angry, all people that were sad. And they would notice that it would light up in certain spots consistently in the body, which is really fascinating. You can probably find it online. **Lorne Brown:** cool. Absolutely. And, you know, we know like we got serotonin receptors in the gut. Now the heart's being known as a, as a second brain may have more what the read off of it more than the brain and, and then dispensa and heart math talk about heart brain coherence. So we're. You know, I look at it this way is, you know, back in the day of Galileo and Newton, the days when we thought that the sun revolved around the earth and the earth was flat, it was hard for society to shift and science to shift, right? Cause everything we understood the way we could look, it was like, no, no, the world's flat. It look at it, you can tell, look, look outside, doesn't look round or look, look, you can tell that. the sun is going around the earth. Look in the sky. It's so obvious. And you [00:30:00] can't tell me the earth is spinning. We would feel it, right? And now today, most people realize that the earth is round, not flat. There are so few flatters out there. They realize the earth is spinning and that the earth goes around the sun. But there's your perception, you know, there's the first floor view. From my view, the sun is going around the earth. I see it rise and set, right? I can see it float around. I'm standing still. I'm pretty sure about it, but that's a illusion. It's not a complete correct perception on that first floor when you go to a higher floor. So in this case, when we go into space, We can see that it's actually the earth that goes around the sun and the earth is round. And then if we go to a higher floor, we're going to probably get a whole other understanding of what's going on in this human experience and purpose and what's your individual purpose. And people have spoken of it. I haven't tapped into that aspect. I've had those. Non medicated, so non psychedelic experiences where I've tapped into profound peace, where I've tapped into bliss.[00:31:00]  I've also, through psychedelics, I've only done it once, so I'll never do it again, where I tapped into my shadow, right? Accelerated my journey, but I wouldn't wish that upon anybody, going into my shadow work unprepared. **Michelle Oravitz:** 'cause if you, you have to be ready for it. That's **Lorne Brown:** I wasn't ready for it. I, I, I cheated. I cheated with psychedelics. And it put me into my shadow grateful now because and here's a litmus test for myself. So I share this with the listeners as well. If you. don't like your life now, then I'm pretty sure you're still living in kind of a victim mode. You don't like your past and you'll have all the evidence to say why you don't like it. And if you can love your past, no matter how bad it is, then I know you love your now. I know you love your life. Why? Because You realize that who you are today is based on everything that's happened to you and you and because you love where you are today, you would never want to change your past because you love your day. Doesn't mean you want to relive your past, but you're grateful for. You don't regret it because you love today. [00:32:00] But if you hate your past, then it's I'm pretty sure you really don't love it. your day. And there are some terrible things that have happened to people. And I've seen people who've had terrible acts done to them. They would never ask to go do it again, like, but they also say, I love my life now. And so I wouldn't change anything in my past. So that shows you that's healed, right? That vibration that's healed. And so, because there's only this moment. So I find conscious work powerful when you bring it to reproductive health. I want to quote our Randine Lewis friend who wrote the book, The Infertility Cure, many books, but I remember hearing her talk about when women get into a later stage of their reproductive years, especially into their forties she said, you know, at the beginning, you know, reproduction is, it's a, it's a youth game, Jing, we call it essence Jing, it's the physicality, right? You got to have good physicality and it, and that happens with the youth. We see it around us, right? Like, a 90 year old and a 20 year old, the same person or different [00:33:00] physically. But there's something about spiritual maturity and sometimes, and this is where it kind of ties into Dr. Jo Dispenza, matter change matter. So that's the physical, the Jing. And then there's energy that can change matter. And that's what we call the Shen, the spirit tapping into that consciousness. And she says, when you're younger, you can be spiritually mature because you have such good Jing, it overrides everything. And so you can be a drug addict. And you're 20s and getting pregnant all the time, right? Poorly eating, all that stuff. And then if you get into your 40s, the physicality you want, but it's not enough, you need to, as she said, have your shit together. So that's, I'm quoting her. And sometimes that's when we see what we call miracles. It overrides the physical. And you really need to do that spiritual, the spiritual maturity happens. And so, you know, have both. Add to that her excitement with donor egg back in the day when we were having this conversation was she couldn't wait to meet the Children that were born through donor egg cycles because she [00:34:00] says currently this was way back when in early 2000 people were born with either young mothers, so physically strong, spiritually immature. They're in their twenties, early thirties or they're born with women in the early forties. physically not as strong, but spiritually more mature. So they didn't have both. She goes, but with the donor egg cycle, they get the gene from the, the egg. So a physical, physically strong, younger woman, and they are gestated. And raised by spiritually mature women. It's going to be the first time where they get both strength from the physical and strength from the spiritual. So she was quite excited. It was a different perspective to look at the Dorae. She was like, I wonder what kind of children these are going to be, right? So,  **Michelle Oravitz:** amazing. And actually it's really interesting. I don't know if you've seen this yourself, but sometimes the donor egg and the child looks like the mother. **Lorne Brown:** yeah, well, not surprising. I, I, I can't quote you on this, but I remember that they've done this in animals where you put him in a different, like, I don't know, [00:35:00] a donkey into a horse or something like, and it comes out looking more like the the mother. Like the, the horse. So, because don't forget you start as, you know, You know, a bunch of cells, right, you know, when you go in and you're grown, so you are influenced because you're, you're taking in in Chinese medicine talks about this, the emotional well being of the mother during pregnancy will impact the nervous system and the emotional personality of that child. And so what you're eating and what you're doing is helping grow that child. So we have what we call prenatal Jing, you know, for our listeners. So you get that from the mother, the father, and then. throughout pregnancy. And then postnatal Jing is what you, what happens after you're born. So your diet lifestyle. And so everything is impacting you up until you're born. That's what we'd call your genes. And in Chinese medicine called pre pre pregenetic destination, right? Prenatal, prenatal essence. I don't know if I said, if I use the right word, prenatal essence or prenatal Jing is what happens. So, yeah, I love [00:36:00] that story that she looked a little bit like the mother, not surprising. **Michelle Oravitz:** Yeah. And I've actually seen it because I, one of them she's somebody that I'm friends with on Facebook and she's also been on the podcast, Nancy Weiss. She's a spirit baby medium, is a whole other **Lorne Brown:** Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** topic. Right. But she. donor embryos and one of her daughters, she put a side by side picture of herself when she was younger and the daughter, and it was crazy. How similar they looked and then I've heard another story of somebody with freckles that she's had freckles But the mother of the donor did not and her husband did not So she always wanted a child with freckles and sure enough one of them got freckles  **Lorne Brown:** Very cute. Yeah, And that, there's so much things we don't understand and the donor egg cycle, I don't know if you've seen this, but with my patients, they only have one regret and it's a great regret that I've always heard when I've heard any regrets, I don't hear it often, but I hear it [00:37:00] and they say that the only regret I have is that I didn't do this donor egg cycle sooner because I don't, I realized I could have been with this baby I, I waited, I, you know, cause they're doing other things and understand there's a process to come to this place where you're ready to do donor a. But that's a great regret. Meaning they love this baby like from day from day one implantation, right? They have this connection. They're their mother. And and. It's, it's, that's great news, right? Cause so many people understandably have to get their head around about not using their own genetic material, right? And when you get there, when you surrender, which is part of conscious work, right? And the resistance drops and you get into flow and receptivity, the experience can be beautiful. And then regardless, even if you don't, when that baby's born, you're like, what the heck? I've been waiting for this forever. **Michelle Oravitz:** Yes. And that's another thing. So looking at the same thing from different lenses and different perspectives, and then you can kind of think, [00:38:00] okay, I may have wanted it to go this way, but perhaps it can go another way. And I'll still get the end goal, which is really to become a mother. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah, that's the end goal. And that's what we want to focus on. And from the conscious work, you know, we, we hear so often in manifestation work and in teachers of consciousness, not to be attached to form an outcome. And I'm a practical guy. So the left brain, my math background, my accounting, I'm, what I would say my feet are on the ground and my header is in the clouds, not just, you know, some people either their head in their clouds. So some people in our industry just head in the clouds. So it's hard to bring it to this earth or my old profession as a accountant, the feet are on the ground, right? I feel like I'm, I'm doing both of that.  So. I want to share this because this worked for me. And again, I often share is, you know, it's easy to say don't attach to form an outcome. That's easy to say you're not the one that has, you want this form an outcome. So it's, you can't fool the universe. You can't pretend, right? Really pretend, but you can do [00:39:00] practices. And I have found this line and I didn't come up with this. I heard this from somebody else and I was like, brilliant. And it works for me and it's worked for hundreds of other people I've worked with this or something better. Yeah. I want this or something better that had such a different vibration to it because you didn't choose your desire So I will never say you can't have you can't want this You can't desire this because you didn't choose it. I I prefer chocolate ice cream over strawberry. I can't tell you why it's just it is I just like I want chocolate ice cream. I don't really want strawberry ice cream. It's just What is, and so, but when you have a desperate need for it, that if I can't have this, then you create resistance and that impacts the field and that cannot be healthy. But if you have a desire, you want it, but you also know you're going to be okay, whether you have it or not, that doesn't add resistance to the field. And so often we, cause if you get focused on has to be this way, then you're not leaving yourself open to other things that [00:40:00] can bring you that same experience. Right? Because what does the baby bring to you? Right? You know, why do you want the baby? What's it gonna bring? What's gonna be different? What are you gonna experience? You know this kind of work, right? Because then you could get little, I call them Drift logs or kisses on the cheek from the universe where you know what it feels like you're practicing what it feels like and it's This or this or something better and then all of a sudden it that same experience comes to you But it's a different manifestation physically. So you're like, oh You know getting that feeling and so you're you're starting to get it from other places as well You're experiencing it. And when I say get it from other places I want to use that loosely is you have learned to Elicit that experience inside of you and then you're starting to see it manifested on the outside so because you don't want to have to get it from the outside because again, then you're not whole and complete This whole work is about becoming whole and complete where it's cut. You are it's It's you're making it inside of it. You're tapped into a part of yourself higher than I guess the ego self to use that language. And then it becomes fun to [00:41:00] see if you can manifest it on the outside, but you're already experiencing the feeling. Hence it's easy not to be attached because you're already feeling the joy or the love or the nurturing of something else, right? And the being of service to something else, you're already bringing up that experience. So you don't need it on the outside, but then all of a sudden you see it on the outside and that just bumps it up a bit. It amplifies it. And so you get, but it's temporary, that amplification. And then when you come back to your set point, that set point is peace and joy anyhow. So you're good. **Michelle Oravitz:** So it's unconditional peace and joy. It doesn't have a condition on it. You choose to just have that. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** you can, and I think that that's the big thing is that people don't realize that they can actually do that. They could bring it up through just meditation and different practices that they can bring it up in themselves. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah. You tap into that. And I mean, I've, I've had that. I have glimpses. I have experiences of it. And for now the language is I'm, I'm tapping into my true nature and everybody has this true nature, your witness consciousness, your higher self, you want to give it a word. [00:42:00] And. I think we might have talked about this when I interviewed you on the Conscious Fertility podcast, but it's not all positive. It feels good. You still get uncomfortable feelings. You're just not at the full effect of them. So you experience the sadness. You can experience fear. You can experience guilt or hopelessness, but it moves through you like a song on a radio, 90 seconds, and it passes through you. And then you're back to that peace. And So if you're able to not get into the story and you can experience it, you still feel these uncomfortable feelings, but there's a, there's could be an underlying peace or even beauty behind some of those feelings. You're just not at the full effect of them and they just don't last for, for weeks. **Michelle Oravitz:** Yeah. Well, the untethered soul, I think that was like a big game changer for me, that book **Lorne Brown:** Michael Singer's book. Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** Singer, he's amazing. And I think that it really was about like allowing discomfort to happen without judgment, without that kind of good or bad, that neutrality, just kind of allowing it to happen. And I have an [00:43:00] example because I burned myself. I remember it was a Friday night and I was exhausted. I was so tired. I couldn't wait to sleep. And I burned my thumb. was like, man, and it was a stupid thing. Cause I was so tired and I touched something and I knew I shouldn't have done, it was just like, without thinking. And I was like, how am I going to sleep with this burning sensation? It was like the worst feeling ever. You know, it's like when you first burn yourself. And I remember thinking to myself, maybe it was like my higher guidance, something resist the burn. So I was like, okay, let me try this. literally felt, I closed my eyes and like, I imagined myself just kind of going through the fire with my hand and almost. Accepting it, inviting it, allowing it. And literally within five minutes, the burn went away. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah, and that's the quantum. That's energy changing matter and you use the awesome word resistance Right resistance is futile to quote the Borg from Star Trek Resistance is futile for those Trekkies out there When you add resistance basically you amplify the burn you amplify the [00:44:00] suffering or take from the Buddhist quote pain is inevitable the burn hurts Suffering is optional. That's where you amplify and when you can lean into it versus it's counterintuitive because we should run away from it. We think, right? And I had that similar experience in the nineties. I I had read, I read dr joe dispenses book, but I didn't understand it. I kind of read it, but Didn't catch very much of it the first read and one day when I was studying to write the exams to become a chartered accountant, a CPA I had sadness come over me real, and it was a new thing. I wasn't something I really experienced this kind of sadness that I could recall. And I don't know why I did this, but there's again, another part of you leading the way here. I decided to, in the middle of the day, I had shared accommodations. I was living with a female and she had Yanni and the Ghetto Blaster. Back in the day, it was Ghetto Blasters. with cassettes, maybe CDs. She had some incense burners. So I lit that and there was like lavender rose in it. And I went in the [00:45:00] bath and just decided to experience the sadness. So as I'm listening to the sad music, there's some incense and candle lit in the middle of the day in the bath, hot bath. I'm so going into the sadness. Tears are rolling down my eyes. And in a moment I'm in full bliss. Like I'm like bliss. Like. But I I don't do drugs, but what except for that psychedelic experience, what, what a good high would be like, it was like, and honestly, if that's what it feels like, I understand why people would do drugs. It was just bliss. And I'm like, you know, try to be sad. Because I was like, this feels great. Can I be sad? I couldn't be sad. And it was only later I had that experience first. And then I read dispenses book. Sorry, not just Ben's, Eckhart Tolle's book, Eckhart Tolle, The Power of Now is what I meant. And the line where he says, you, when you're present, you can't suffer, because when you're regretting the past or fear in the future, you're not in the present. But if you're in the present, he says, even sadness can be turned into bliss. And when I read that line in the book, [00:46:00] I had my aha moment because I had that experience. And now the process that I do in my conscious work is about lowering the resistance. Somebody says, what are you doing? You're tuning into your, your wist witness consciousness. You mentioned Michael Singer, the untethered soul. He often says he doesn't use tools or do tools, but he kind of does. And and I have a process that I believe brings down the resistance. My experience, people, I've worked with and then you have that flow and receptivity and sometimes I just have peace. Maybe it's at, you know, if my, if I'm frustrated or fear, it's a seven out of 10, it'll come down to say a two or one. So peace in an unhappy situation still, right? But peace. So the resistance is low. Yeah, **Michelle Oravitz:** flow in that moment. And it's interesting because I, my litmus test is, are you present? Really? That's the question. I, a lot of people that I work with is, are you present? Like, cause many times when they share things that are uncomfortable for them, they're not really in the present moment. They're either [00:47:00] expecting a future or thinking about a past or something that happens. So the present moment's always the antidote. To everything. If we **Lorne Brown:** present. And that's what the mind does. It's the nature of the mind. You can't get mad at the mind for thinking because that's its nature to be like getting upset with water for being wet, right? It's its nature. So you're fighting with reality. However, there's tools to help you get present and these uncomfortable feelings can become portals to presence. Right. And you're not wallowing them and, and embellishing them, you know, you're not inflating them. You're leaning into them and observing them. So I think what's happening, my experience, my understanding to this point is when we really get practice at noticing and observing them and accepting them, I think we're tuning, we go into present moment, but we do this by tuning into our witness consciousness because the mere fact of witnessing them, not, it shouldn't be this way. It's not fair, like getting into the head. But. **Michelle Oravitz:** neutral watcher. **Lorne Brown:** get into the watching, just getting practice at watching, then you [00:48:00] tune into your witness consciousness and that nature of you is peace and joy. So you tune into it. So wherever you put your energy is what's going to grow. So if you believe in the story and you're at the effect of the story, then you're You're unconscious and you're experiencing it. You're suffering right now. You've amplified the negative situation if you're able to observe it I'm not saying you'll like it. We're not doing a spiritual bypass here, but getting practice at observing at it I believe you tune into the witness consciousness and It's nature's peace and joy and the metaphor I use for this Michelle is when we so Tell me how this lands for you and I'm curious for your audience because this for me was my another aha moment just like what's going on here because I'm having these experiences and I want to have language to share with the people I work with. So if you buy an apple, you have to consciously you Michelle ego Michelle has to pick up the apple and chew it. But after that, Michelle, you're not going release salivary enzymes in your mouth. Like I got to do that. Nobody talked to me. Nobody talked to me. I'm getting acid into [00:49:00] my stomach now. Okay, I cannot. Walk up the stairs because my intestines are now absorbing the all these B vitamins or same thing when you sleep when you go to sleep You're unconscious. You're not breathing yourself. You're not pumping your blood Or pumping your heart circulating your blood your autonomic nervous system is doing this another part your subconscious program is doing this, right? The autonomic nervous system. Well same thing. I don't believe for me that I let go of these programs or emotions anymore. Not Lauren Brown ego. Just like I don't release the salivary enzyme. All I have, I believe it's my witness consciousness does this. It's what's metabolizing these uncomfortable feelings and old programs. And how do we do this? Well, first you have to make the unconscious conscious. So that's my notice step. Everything is neutral and then we give it meaning. Don't believe in the story. When you do, you make it real. So don't take it personally. Then I have multiple tools during the accepting part to surrender to what is, not fight it. Doesn't mean you're resigned to it. Doesn't mean you like it. We're just accepting that this is how I feel right now. And you [00:50:00] accept it and you start to observe it and get really, this is a skill. You get practice at observing it. And by that observing, you tune into the witness consciousness and it is what lets go the feelings. It's what metabolizes it. So, so. It's the intelligence. And so give it a conscious divine. I don't know if it's a part of me or part. I don't know. All I know is Lauren Brown is not doing it. Just like Lauren Brown gets to choose to bite the apple. Lauren Brown gets to choose to notice, not take it personally and observe it. That's all I do. The digestion of the apple is outside of my ego, my conscious mind, the digestion and the alchemy of these emotions where I was sad, went from sad to bliss. Right or go from fear to just feeling at peace. I'm not doing that I don't believe I let go of it and this ties into Michael Singers He says that these I don't know what he calls them Sankara's or something these these these energy blocks. They're [00:51:00] there So you're not experiencing your true nature You're all blocked up with these old programs and beliefs and feelings, but when they get released they move up and out You have this space now where you get to experience yourself. So that's how he describes it. Does, I mean, the, the metaphors and the concepts, yeah, the bottom line is you got to do the work you get. That's my point. It's nice to understand. A lot of us cannot confirm or prove anything, but when you have the experience, you don't care because the experience is peace and peace. It was nice. **Michelle Oravitz:** It is. **Lorne Brown:** I'm not at the, I'm not at the state, I'm not at the stage where I can equally treat fear and, and peace or fear and love together. Like some people say you get to a place where you don't, you don't judge either. You're, they're just vibrations. You're okay. I definitely prefer peace and joy and bliss over fear, shame, guilt, just so you know. Yeah. **Michelle Oravitz:** really our true default **Lorne Brown:** Yeah, **Michelle Oravitz:** is in that nature and that's the Buddha [00:52:00] nature. That's kind of like **Lorne Brown:** yeah, **Michelle Oravitz:** like form and we learn the other things. **Lorne Brown:** yeah, **Michelle Oravitz:** habituated through habits. So bringing this into fertility, which I think is actually very relevant, even though, you know, it's kind of like this big grand concept, it could totally apply to going through IVF, going through the resistance. And also in the IVF, you get so focused on the numbers and the analytical, where sometimes you need to kind of. move back and allow yourself the space and the, and to really take care of your wellbeing. And that's kind of like a, my big thing about that, which always tends to kind of fall in the back burner burner. **Lorne Brown:** yeah, yeah, you're going through the journey and anyhow, so that's all thing pain is Inevitable suffering is optional. I don't think anybody would want to go through an IVF However, if you're going through it, you could go kicking and screaming and suffer through it, or you can go through it and, and not amplify the difficulties of it. And that, again, is a skill set, because [00:53:00] IVF is not easy. As you know, the research shows it's like getting a cancer diagnosis or terminal diagnosis, infertility. So I want to clarify that we're not dismissing it. The conscious work is about being authentic. It's actually about feeling your feelings. However, with a different lens and developing a skill set, a process, so you can metabolize it, right? But yeah, if you're going to go on this journey, if you're in this journey, you didn't choose it, but you're in it. And so how do you use it as, as they say in the conscious teachings, how do you make it as, how is this happening for you versus to you? What does that mean? How do I get out of victim mode? Because it doesn't serve you to being accountable, responsible. What does that mean? Accountable responsible does not mean you blame yourself or you blame other accountable. Responsible means that if you're having the experience, then that's all you need to know that you're responsible for healing it because you're the one having the experience. If you if you it wasn't your responsibility, then you wouldn't be having that experience. And there's so many experiences [00:54:00] happening around the world at one time, and each individual is only aware of so many the ones that they're aware of that are triggering them that they're experiencing. That's, that's all you need to know that that means you're accountable, responsible for that. The stuff that's happening around the world that doesn't trigger you, it's not your responsibility to do the inner work around it. **Michelle Oravitz:** Yeah. Well, I mean, I can keep talking to you forever and of course we just talked about one subject, so perhaps I'll bring you back for other ones as well. But this is this is definitely the kind of thing that I'm very interested in and I nerd out on this all the time. It really is something I think about every single day. I think that it is when you really are bringing up your consciousness and becoming more aware in your life and. Really being the creator of your life or owning that you are a creator in your life I just think it brings another element of purpose and meaning everything. **Lorne Brown:** Yeah. We all want to be happy. And we think different things outside of us will make us happy. This work brings that kind of [00:55:00] happiness. And if, to kind of wrap this part up on consciousness from the materialistic and then the quantum perspective, you know, when we, when we're unconscious, or when we're in that state of fear, we don't feel safe, right? Then our body goes into survival mode, right? The fight or flight. And so, our resources are not available for healing. creativity and reproduction because they're in survival mode, you know, blood gets drained from the, the thinking brain goes, the blood gets drained from the digestion reproduction. And so, but when you feel safe, which is what conscious work is, so here's on the material level, you free up resources for healing, creativity, reproduction. And we know this, that the unsafe hormones of cortisol. and adrenaline and epinephrine, all those things affect inflammation, the body, the effect, your immune system, your hormonal system, your gut microbiome. And when you feel safe, you're releasing the

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Nita Gage, Hoffman teacher and Director of Faculty, worked closely with Dr. Lipsenthal, M.D., for several years before his death. He was an internationally recognized leader, teacher, and author in integrative medicine and physician wellness. And he loved the Hoffman Process. The vision, care, and understanding that Dr. Lipsenthal brought to the world of medicine and medical doctors has changed how doctors care for themselves. Through his own time in the medical profession, Dr. Lipsenthal observed that the health, morale, and work satisfaction of many physicians were often worse than that of their patients. He found a way to support physicians in improving these areas of their lives. Like both Dr. Lipsenthal and Nita, many physicians they worked with eventually came to do the Hoffman Process, which gave them additional tools to change their lives for the better. Listen in as Nita shares her experience of working with Lee, the physician, and Lee the man. We hope you enjoy this conversation with Nita and Drew. More about Lee Lipsenthal, M.D.: Lee Lipsenthal, MD Lee Lipsenthal, M.D., was an internationally recognized leader, teacher, and author in integrative medicine and physician wellness. He was the medical director with Dean Ornish of the Preventative Medicine Research Institute in Sausalito, California, for ten years, and has also served as president of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine and on the American Medical Association's Physician Wellness Committee. Through his years in the medical profession, Dr. Lipsenthal observed that the health, morale, and work satisfaction of many physicians were often worse than that of their patients. Inspired by his personal and professional experience, he developed the "Finding Balance in a Medical Life" program, which has been adapted by major medical groups and is being delivered at medical schools and residency programs nationwide. Lee was a 2006 graduate of the Hoffman Process. He died in September 2011. His wife, Kathy, also a physician, and his two children live in California. Lee Lipsenthal authored, Enjoy Every Sandwich: Living Each Day as If It Were Your Last. More about Nita Gage: From 1970 to 1980, Nita trained in psychoanalysis with R.D. Laing in London. Upon returning to the United States, she pursued graduate degrees in clinical psychology and a doctorate in shamanic psychology. Nita has been leading transformational healing retreats for over 25 years and the last 10 years recently with the Hoffman Institute. She is now the Director of Faculty for Hoffman Institute.  Before Hoffman, she founded the Healer Within Retreats, with Lee Lipsenthal, MD, offering physician wellness retreats.  She also served clinical and executive positions in hospitals and treatment centers over the 50 years of her career. Listen to Nita on The Hoffman Podcast - A Courageous Ripple   Nita has authored two books: Soul Whispering: The Art of Awakening Shamanic Consciousness and Women in Storage: How to Reimagine Your Life. As mentioned in this episode: Dean Ornish Ornish.com ACEs - Adverse Childhood Experiences Sausalito, CA Moloka'i, Hawaii •   Hui Ho'olana Retreat Center Buddhist Fundamental Teachings Co-Dependency Work addiction Chronic Illness/Disease IONS - Institute of Noetic Sciences, Established by Hoffman Graduate, Astronaut, Dr. Edgar Mitchell. "I realized that the story of ourselves as told by science—our cosmology, our religion—was incomplete and likely flawed. I recognized that the Newtonian idea of separate, independent, discrete things in the universe wasn't a fully accurate description. What was needed was a new story of who we are and what we are capable of becoming." Dr. Edgar Mitchell HeartMath Recycling - Hoffman tool Self-Compassion •   Kristen Neff and self-compassion on the Hoffman Podcast - Goodwill & Intention, the Magic Ingredients •   Chris Germer and self-compassion on the Hoffma...

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Season 2, Episode 17 is a bit of a different adventure for us. We have decided to break down the concepts presented in a Joe Rogan interview with Thomas Campbell, author of My Big TOE (Theory Of Everything). Campbell is a physicist who began experiencing the paranormal in college. Because of those experiences, he has gone on a life long quest to understand and explain them from a scientific perspective. Through that study and experimentation, he has created a very rich, flushed out theory of how all of life as we know it works. Further, he believes that his theory has sufficient results to answer many of the modern questions between Newtonian and Quantum Physics.We strongly suggest that you watch Joe Rogan's interview of Campbell prior to this episode, in order to get the full context. If not, we do give an overview at the beginning of the show. https://youtu.be/tQR6SFK7lFc?si=mtIRUB-hxrNLUtJMOur overall intent here is to map Campbell's framework and components to our understanding of God, all of Creation, and the many paranormal experiences and concepts we have discussed in the past.Along the way I relate a relevant Near Death Experience of a coworker, Vic rather dubiously declares himself the Best Wordle Player in the World, Father Mike embarks on the First Paranormal Rundown Wordle Intuition Psychic Blocking Experiment, and we discuss topics including Out of Body Experiences, Simulation Theory, Intuition vs Intellect, Creative Uses for Computer Punch Cards, Jesus Christ, The Holy Spirit, World of Warcraft, Leroy Jenkins, What is Hell, Various Paranormal Concepts, The Borg, and more. We really hope you enjoy this breakdown of Thomas Campbell's view of the universe, and our mapping of it to The Paranormal Rundown!Links for Thomas Campbell:https://www.my-big-toe.com/theory/overview-of-my-big-toe/ https://www.cusac.orgPlease contact us at feedback@paranormalrundown.com and let us know what you think of this episode. We really enjoyed this format, and are thinking about making it a regular feature. Also, we are always looking for guests for the show. All we request is a strong interest in paranormal topics, and a good sense of humor!The Paranormal Rundown is a partnership between the hosts David Griffith, JJ Johnson, Father Michael Birdsong, and Vic Hermanson.Check out our new X account at: https://x.com/ParanormalRundnLeave us a message!Be sure to check out our partner podcasts:You can find JJ at Southern Demonology, https://www.southerndemonology.comYou can find Vic at Trailer Trash Terrors, https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/vic-hermansonYou can find Father Birdsong at https://www.becomingahouseofprayer.com, as well as hear his new podcast Ending the Curse at:https://open.spotify.com/show/5yL7ZAN4wcRKnMPAlalVXW Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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As our guest, Abby Havermann will tell you, not only teachers, but all of us should be life-long learners. Abby grew up in Boston and then made an attempt to leave the cold for Southern California and USC. However, after a year she decided that the USC and LA lifestyle wasn't for her and she moved back to the Boston area. She graduated college with a degree in Social Psychology. She also holds a Master's degree which she will talk about with us. Abby held jobs in the therapy and social work arena. She was married along the way, but ended up getting a divorce. She later remarried and worked for 12 years with her husband in the financial world. In 2018 she decided that talking with people about money wasn't for her. She left Finance and began her own business and now she teaches business and other leaders how to “unlearn what no longer serves them”. My conversation with Abby discusses fear, self perception and how to develop the skills to overcome fear and our own inner lack of confidence. Abby uses a variety of techniques including some “ancient methods” to work with her clients. You will hear about Abby's Ted Talk entitled “Women's Liberation is an inside job”. I will leave it to Abby to explain. I very much believe you will find this episode enthralling and relevant to our lives today. About the Guest: On the outside, Abby Havermann was leading what could easily be described as an enviable life - a respected couples therapist, adjunct faculty at the graduate level, married with an adorable child, and a white picket fence to boot. But many of her life choices had unconsciously been made through the lens of unworthiness - choices that weren't aligned for her. The Universe often does for us what we're unable to do for ourselves, and Abby's wake-up call was mortifying. She spent a long, dark night of the soul in an overcrowded jail cell when her relapsing addiction counselor husband had her bogusly arrested for domestic violence the day before she was scheduled to move out. That's when Abby identified the myriad of ways she'd betrayed herself and shifted her focus from what she was doing in the world to who she was being. Through this process, she took back her power and, through the ensuing decades, has delved deeper into the human potential movement, trained with world-renowned thought leaders, and the rest is history. A lifelong learner, Abby's singularity resides in combining her psychology, neuroscience, spiritual, and coaching experience with her ability to transform difficult life experiences into a gratitude-worthy self-evolutionary tool — awareness done right can breed transformation. Now, she teaches mission-driven, insight-oriented people to unlearn what no longer serves them through 1:1 and group coaching, speaking, training, and a soon-to-be-launched online course. Abby's direct signature style challenges clients to up-level while witnessing and holding compassion for the complexity of their multifaceted inner and outer worlds. Ways to connect with Abby: Website: https://www.abbyhavermann.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/abby-havermann-93a915165 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/abby.havermann Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abbyisworthy About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog. Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards. https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/ accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/ Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! 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The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson ** 01:21 Well, hi everyone. I am your host, Mike Hingson, and welcome to another episode of unstoppable mindset. And today we get to talk with Abby Havermann. Abby is I find a very interesting person. She teaches mission driven, purpose oriented inside executives to unlearn, and we won't go into the unlearning, because Abby's going to talk to us about that. And so I don't want to give anything away. I've read her bio, so I know, but at the same time, what I want to do is to let her do that. So Abby, I want to welcome you to unstoppable mindset. We're really glad you're here.   Abby Havermann ** 02:01 Thanks so much. I love your podcast, so I'm happy to be here as well. Well,   Michael Hingson ** 02:05 we love it too, and we appreciate the fact that you do well, why don't we start, as I love to do, by you telling us maybe something about the early Abby, growing up and all that, and I know that we were comparing notes, and you grew up in Boston. Love to hear about that, and Steve's ice cream parlor and all the other wonderful things about Boston. But anyway, and, and I guess one of my favorite places in Boston, Durkin Park, closed during the pandemic.   Abby Havermann ** 02:29 Ah, yeah, I'm not even, I know it's terrible. I'm not familiar with Durkin park   Michael Hingson ** 02:33 because I was in Quincy Market. And   Abby Havermann ** 02:35 Quincy Market, okay, yeah, for sure, the chip yard in Quincy Market is my favorite. Oh, I didn't go   Michael Hingson ** 02:43 there, but I went to Durgan Park several times, and I heard that they they closed. But, oh, sad, sad. But, well, tell us about the early Abbey.   Abby Havermann ** 02:56 Yeah. So, I mean, I grew up in, like you said, outside of Boston, and and I think just from a young age, I kind of came out pretty scrappy, and I had a big personality. I I always seemed to have something to say, and it wasn't always in favor of what people wanted to hear. I felt like I I noticed things. I kind of always wanted to talk about the elephant in the room, and that didn't really go over that well, but I had, you know, a close, you know, extended family, and spent lots of times with my grandparents and my cousins and my parents and siblings. And, you know, I mean, I don't think it was that unusual of a childhood, so to speak, but Boston is bone chilling cold. If you've lived there, you know that. And so I wanted to get out as quickly as I could. And so after high school, I hightailed it out and moved, actually, across the country to spend a year at University of Southern California. Yeah, yeah. But that was such a culture shock, you know, being on the west coast from the East Coast, that I just went right back. I went back to the East Coast. Until later, I moved to Colorado, and yeah, that's where I spent about 30 years. Well, Colorado   Michael Hingson ** 04:19 has its share of cold, I would point out, not   Abby Havermann ** 04:23 bone chilling cold, not bone chilling cold, you're right with a dry air. It's a totally different cold.   Michael Hingson ** 04:30 But the culture shock of being at fight on USC was greater of an issue than the bone chilling cold of being on the East Coast, huh? It was.   Abby Havermann ** 04:39 I mean, I just, you know, on the east coast, people like they're harder to get to know, but they say it like it is. They're very direct, you know. And when I went to California, I felt like it was so hard to get to know people, you just couldn't get very deep, you know. Or at least that's how I felt. Plus, I had been, I didn't realize how sheltered I had been. Um. Um, and it was a very big school, and in the middle of watts, and it was, it was a culture shock for for sure. And I wasn't a PAC 10 athlete, and I wasn't, you know, in sororities, and all the things that you know are, you know, very popular in that particular area. So it just it. And I, I, I, I was so insecure at that time in my life that I think I I could not have broken into either of those, even if I had wanted to. I just in my own way constantly. So I pretty much just came running back and, you know, flew out a white flag of defeat in terms of individuating. And   Michael Hingson ** 05:42 did you go back to Boston? I   Abby Havermann ** 05:44 actually went to Wheaton College, up outside of Boston. All right. Now,   Michael Hingson ** 05:48 what did you major in at USC? And did you follow through on that when you went back to Wheaton?   Abby Havermann ** 05:54 Well, back to my confidence issue when I went to USC, I actually declared a drama major. That's what I really wanted to declare. And I never took a single drama class because I did not have the confidence. And so when I went to Wheaton, I majored in social psychology, which was something that just came very easily to me, and I enjoyed and that's what I did. Ah,   Michael Hingson ** 06:15 so social psychology and you got a bachelor's. Did you go beyond that?   Abby Havermann ** 06:21 Yeah, I ended up getting a master's in social work at Smith College school for social work. And that's when I after that, I worked in several hospitals as an inpatient psychiatric social worker in Denver, and then shortly after that, I opened my own private practice, and I had that for little over a decade, and that's then I closed my practice and ended up going into business with my second husband as a financial advisor, because he had a financial firm, and I worked in his office with him for 12 years. And that's when I realized I want to talk to people, but not about money. And I had to go back to my roots, and so not as a psychotherapist, but that's when I went back to as a teacher of unlearning and coaching and having learned some about, you know, neuroscience and ancient wisdom practices and things like that that greatly informed the psychology teaching.   Michael Hingson ** 07:15 Now, when you say ancient wisdom practices, tell me a little about that, if you would. Yeah.   Abby Havermann ** 07:21 I mean, you know, there's so much out there. And you know, whether it's, you know, the thema and the teachings of Buddha, or whether it's, I do a lot of work with a guerrilla teacher, he's a mystic from the early 1900s and it weaves together. You know, the more I learn about all these different things, the more everything is seems to be coming back to the same thing. And science now is sort of uncovering things that they've known for so long, for 1000s of years, whatever the practice is, yoga, science, Buddhas, Buddhism, all of those kinds of things everywhere I turn it's, it all comes back to this. I mean, it comes back to so much. But this, this innate power that's in us to change, you know, this innate wisdom that we have. And this, the more I you know, think about it and learn about it and study with people about it. It's we have gotten so smart over time, but we've really not gotten any wiser. Yeah, and that's why I like going back and looking at some of those practices.   Michael Hingson ** 08:33 I was watching a news broadcast this morning, and one of the things that they mentioned was that there has been a study that says that at least one in four people wake up every day and have a bad day, and they know they're going to have a bad day because they wake up with a headache or whatever, and they know they can't Change having a bad day, which is bizarre to me. Yeah, I reject that concept. I think, as you are pointing out, that we do have control over that, but we have so many people, as I would put it, that don't listen to their inner voice. And you can say, listen to God or or whatever. But the bottom line is, we don't listen. And, course, we have a bad day because we don't listen to the answers that are right there in front of us.   Abby Havermann ** 09:26 Yeah. And we've been taught not to, right. We've literally been conditioned, you know, from, you know, the industrial age, you know, and all the learnings that we had, you know, with Newtonian physics and all that stuff, to just never, to always look at our outside circumstances. And it's what you're saying is so true, like the innate wisdom is in us, and it's the last place that we ever look, yeah, and, and, and, to your point, it's, it's unbelievable. We we are taught to think it's like, oh. Something happens, we have an emotional reaction to it, and it's like, oh, now I'm just stuck with these emotions. Nothing I can do now. I'm just here with this. And that's the bit, right? Like, that's the dream that people like you and I have to, like, help people understand that. No, no, no, you you have the power to change your brain and body. You don't have to live by that.   Michael Hingson ** 10:18 How do we get people to understand that. I mean, obviously that's part of what you do. So how do you, how do you get people to unlearn that kind of, I won't even say it's a concept, because it's not, it's just a bad message. But how do people unlearn that?   Abby Havermann ** 10:37 Well, yeah, I mean, first we have to understand like that. We came upon it honestly, right, like that, that we're really in fight or flight so much of the time, that the way we've evolved was for survival. And if you're going to evolve for survival, you're going to be looking into your environment to find out, you know, what you need to do to keep yourself safe. So we're our brains are wired to look outside ourselves and say, Oh, this is the problem. I need to fix that. And if I fix that, I can be safe. And so we're very rarely looking inside ourselves. And in fact, when you're under stress, you physiologically can't look inside yourself, because you're in a state of where you're like, run by your hide. Where do I need to go? You know? How do I need to keep myself safe? You're not looking in yourself and be like, Oh, let me ponder. You know how to evolve myself today, right? So part of it is teaching people, literally, how to physiologically shift, to open up the centers of the brain that are more aligned with curiosity and community and and the empathy circuitry and all of the things where that wisdom we can really plug into the wisdom, the wisdom that's in your heart, right helping people understand that we store emotions in our bodies, and those thoughts and emotions that we're firing are creating our actions unconsciously. And it's not hard to get someone to understand it. As soon as you start talking to them, right, because you can give so many examples, they're like, oh, my god, yeah, you're right. When this happened, then I automatically and unconsciously, you know, had this thought and feeling, and then I acted this way, and before I knew it, you know, the whatever, there was an argument with my co worker, or the team meeting blew up, or, you know, whatever happened. And as soon, as soon as they begin to get curious about how their own behavior, their own thoughts and emotions, can impact the people around them, that's empowering, right? That's when you realize you really do have power. It's not I'm going to empower you to be able to have a voice. No, it's, it's being empowered inside of yourself to recognize the power that's already inherently there.   Michael Hingson ** 12:50 I love something you said, though, which is that this is what we're taught, and I think that that's exactly right. I don't think we're born that way, necessarily, but that is what we're taught. Yeah,   Abby Havermann ** 13:03 no, we are, and not only that, we're encouraged to, right? I mean, like, I read somewhere, I don't know if it was maybe in the book letting go. I can't remember, but how Freud's was really misunderstood when he talked about expression versus repression, that the idea was not, wasn't intended to be that if you just say your emotions out loud, you will release them. And this is what we've kind of been taught from ancient, you know, like back in the psychology, and even in psychology in school for you know, that degree, it's sort of like all we need to do is just express what's going on. So now we're complaining to each other where, you know, and everybody's going, Oh, you're right. You have a right to feel this way. Yes, this is terrible. This is terrible. And yes, we do have a right to feel this way. I mean, you know, right better than anybody. I have a one of the reasons I was so attracted to your podcast is that I have a child who has a disability. And, you know, there's lots and lots of reasons to feel bummed out or upset or limited, right? That's not the question. The question is, do you really want to   Michael Hingson ** 14:11 That's right? The reality is, you may have the right to do it, because you have the right to make choices, but on the other hand, is that really the best choice? And the answer is not really Yeah,   Abby Havermann ** 14:25 and not because you're a better person if you don't, not because you get kudos, you know, but because your life is better, because you determine how you know whether you're happy or sad or resentful, you know, or holding a grudge, you know?   Michael Hingson ** 14:41 Yeah, I agree. And I see it so often. I remember so many times I'm asked what you were in the World Trade Center and you escaped. Did you go through a lot of therapy? Because you seem like you're pretty normal now, whatever that means. And I point out, no. No, I didn't go through counseling directly, but what I did, and it was a little bit unconscious, at least, I didn't think about this as a reason for doing it, but my wife and I agreed that talking about the World Trade Center attacks and allowing people to hire me to come and do speeches and talk about the lessons we should learn, made me pretty visible, and a lot of reporters wanted to do interviews. And the reality is that my therapy ended up being the media coming into our home literally hundreds of interviews, asking every question from the most inane to the most insightful you can imagine, but that made me talk about it, and that's I think the biggest key is being able to talk about it, and recognizing, as you do that you're thinking about it, and that causes your brain to help you be able to put it all in perspective, whatever that may be and whatever it is,   Abby Havermann ** 16:07 yeah, and I think you know what you're talking about is so important, because I think we get mixed up so easily between what is the difference between acknowledging what happened to you and dwelling in what happened to you. And it is so important to be able to talk about it and acknowledge like the feelings that you have, and not deny those. If we just think, well, I should be, I should, in quotes, be able to, you know, be in a great, great mood, even though I feel like crap or whatever, and you just keep trying that it's not going to work you. You have to acknowledge what is. You have to be truthful about what is but understanding that you have the power to overcome and all of that resides inside of you, and it may take, depending on whatever happened, maybe you're over it in 30 seconds. 911 going to take a lot longer, right? Like you have the patience to to to walk through that with yourself, but understanding that it's not what happens to us in our lives that's important. It's it's how we react to it, right, what we think of it. And look at what you've made of that, right? Like, what a phenomenal story, what a horrific, you know, accident and not an accident, horrific event. And look at how many people you've touched as a result, and how many people you've taught and how many lives you've changed well.   Michael Hingson ** 17:26 And one of the things I realized at the beginning of the pandemic, and we've talked about it some here on the podcast, is that while I wasn't I won't say I wasn't afraid. On September 11, I had learned to control fear because I prepared for the eventuality that there could be an emergency. And there had been a bombing in the World Trade Center in 1993 in the parking lot. It didn't do a lot of damage, but nevertheless, it caused a lot of people who bought at the World Trade Center. So I came along at a time when I was hired to open an office, and in opening the office, we got a great rent, got a great price for it, and we moved in, and I immediately started spending a good amount of time learning all I could about the complex including what all the emergency and evacuation procedures were, emergency preparedness, what to do, Where the emergency exits were, and how to get anywhere, I needed to go, not just one way, but every possible way to get around. And that was something that, as I mentioned before, about physics and paying attention to details, that's the whole point of it. But what all that did was actually, although I never thought about it for many years afterward. But what that really did was created in me a mindset that you know what to do. Well, an emergency happened, and I was able to let that mindset take over, and as I describe it to people, allowed my fear to be a guide and a device that helped me stay motivated and focused, rather than the fear overwhelming, or, as I put it, blinding me to what was going on, so I couldn't make a decision. And I believe that we do have that capability. We don't need to allow fear to overwhelm us and to make life impossible on it. Yeah, I understand there's a natural reaction, and people have physical reactions when they're afraid and so on. But the reality is, from a mind standpoint, you do have the ability to control that, and so you do have the ability to take that fear and make it a positive thing and not a negative thing that overwhelms you, because you suddenly totally just feel helpless.   Abby Havermann ** 19:46 Yeah, I mean, there's so much to unpack in what you just said. I mean, you know, I guess one of, one of the things is that, you know, when I think about it's like, obviously, that's such a feel for situation. But I often think about the degree to which people are in. Fear just on a daily basis. You know, when you talk to business owners and you know the fear that realistic or not, you know that financial ruins going to happen, the fear of, you know, what am I going to look like when I get up on stage and give this presentation, the fear that you know you're not going to be able to, you know, make the quota, the fear that your boss is going to be upset. You know, all of these things are, you know, the fear of what's going to happen with your children. You know, all of this futuristic thinking, like, literally, if you think about it, I feel like we are in fear so much of the time, and it's just an unconscious process at this point. And to your point about it's not just your mind, right? Like, because the mind can't really get us out of fear. The mind just sort of chatters to itself, and the fear is stored in your body. And so really, having an understanding of how the mind and the body work together is so important to be able to overcome those emotions, because emotions are stored in your body. We can talk to I mean, how many times have you talked to people that are talking themselves, trying to talk themselves out of feeling a certain way? You cannot talk yourself out of feeling something? It won't work, and then you'll just end up feeling, you know, deflated because you couldn't do it. It's really a combination of understanding with your mind what you what needs to happen with your body as well. Well,   Michael Hingson ** 21:32 what you have to do is to learn how to step back and say, what is that is really a problem for me right now, what do I what am I really afraid of? And should I be afraid of it? One of the things that I have talked about a fair amount regarding September 11 is that I realized that there are a lot of things over which we don't have control, and if we, as we usually tend to do, what if the world to death and worry about everything in the world that goes on, rather than focusing on the things over which we really do have control, we're going to have more and more fear. We're going to just drive ourselves crazy, and we're going to continue to do what we've always done. But the reality is, and I think a lot does have to do with the mind, but it is also communicating with the body. It's a mind body process. But the ultimate issue is that we have to decide and learn how to take that control and focus just on the things that we really have influence over and not worry about the rest of it. So one of the things that I did when the pandemic started was to begin writing a book called, as it turns out, live like a guide dog, true stories from a blind man and his dogs about being brave, overcoming adversity and moving forward in faith. And the idea behind the book is to teach people how to control fear. And I use examples of lessons that I have learned from working with eight guide dogs and my wife service dog, the lessons that I learned from them that when we apply them, will help us really deal with fear in the right way. So it's all about learning to control that fear. And you know, as an example, what if, as I said, we What if everything to death, and most of the time we don't have any control over it, and it isn't going to happen anyway, but we spend so much time worrying about it that we don't focus on the what ifs or the the issues that are directly really relevant to us.   Abby Havermann ** 23:40 Yeah, yeah. And that that, what if question that analytic brain is really what separates us from from dogs and animals, right? We have the ability to get stuck in this analysis paralysis, and we've been sort of taught like hanging out in that left brain is really it's the more important place to be. And if we just keep going around and around and chewing on something, we'll get an answer to your point all the way back to the beginning of what you said without looking inside ourselves at all, which doesn't require really any thought. It's more sensory oriented. You know what needs to be done here? And it's really I find, you know what I've learned throughout the years, and what I teach is that, and practice is that it's when you settled your nervous system down, you know, when you stop, you know, feeding into a dysregulated nervous system that those options are available to you, and you're able to kind of stop the fear and just observe, rather than analyze, what's going on   Michael Hingson ** 24:46 well, and we really can do that. One of the things that I talk about live like a guide dog, which was published in August of 2024 is that if we would take time. Time at the end of every day to step back as we're falling asleep, even when it's quiet, and look at what happened today, what worked, what didn't work, and and I reject the the concept that anything is a failure. It's a learning experience. And good things that happen to us are learning experiences. How could I have done that better than I did. What else could I have done, but in the case of things that are a problem that we tend to dwell on, why is it a problem? What was I afraid of? How do I deal with that, and really taking the time to start to deal with answering those kinds of questions and doing it regularly, and practicing it is what is going to start to allow us to be able to use our minds to communicate with the rest of us and move forward a much more positive way, and maybe tomorrow, not wake up with a bad day,   Abby Havermann ** 25:54 right? And and, like you say, being able to do that from an objective standpoint, I so much of what I see is that people just beat the hell out of themselves. Yup, so that simple exercise of, you know, what do I love, about what, what I did and what, what would I do differently, becomes, you know, a session of self flagellation, of like, I'm so terrible and I did this and that that wrong, and blah, blah, blah, blah, or the opposite, where it's like, I didn't do anything wrong, and we completely, you know, dissociate from the parts of ourselves that are showing up that aren't useful in a situation. And when you can teach people to sort of have more of that objective focus, because they have, you know, they've built a part inside themselves that can be loving and empathic toward themselves and others that they can stop and say, All right, well, let's see what, what do I love about what I did, and what do I need to do differently next time to make it go differently, it's not, it's not a it's not about your horrible person or your great person. It's nothing to do with that right.   Michael Hingson ** 26:57 And the issue is, when you talk about, what did I do wrong? You didn't think it was wrong until it didn't go the way you wanted. And so it doesn't mean that that you intentionally made a mistake or anything like that. So you got to be able to step back and say, so what really happened here? What do I learn from it? I've learned that one of the most important things I can say is not that I'm my own worst critic, but rather I'm my own best teacher, which is much more positive anyway. But you know, the fact of the matter is that we worry about so many things so much, the Mark Twain and other people who have made comments about fear point out that most everything we're afraid of or fear will never come to pass, and we just spend way too much time worrying about it, and it drives us crazy. Well,   Abby Havermann ** 27:52 yeah, and you know what you were just saying? You know, I mean, one of the things that I bring to teams and organizations, one of the modalities that I use is Positive Intelligence, which was created by Sherzad, you know, he talks about the the sage perspective, which is, everything can be turned into a gift and opportunity, right? And when you're looking at it from that standpoint, if everything can be turned into a gift and opportunity, there is no failure. There is nothing to beat yourself up about. It's just a curiosity of like, okay, what's the gift here? And it's very hard, I think, when people are under intense stress in business and, you know, dysregulated and dealing with all kinds of things, to be able to stop and think there might be a gift in losing this client, or there might be a gift in having to do these layoffs, but there always is. There always is,   Michael Hingson ** 28:53 well, and the the other part about it is, when you talk about stress, how much of the stress, if you will, that we feel is induced by us, yeah, because we don't learn to step back and and look at it in a little bit more of an objective way.   Abby Havermann ** 29:12 Well, it's reinforced by us, right? Like we we are firing the same thoughts and we're firing the same emotions, and we're doing that over and over and over and over again, and we're dumping more and more cortisol in our bodies, right?   Michael Hingson ** 29:24 And we're not learning a thing, or we're not learning a thing, it's there to learn, but we're not learning it. Yeah,   Abby Havermann ** 29:32 exactly, yeah. And people are becoming more and more divided, you know? But the great news is that, you know, it doesn't have to be that way, right? It doesn't have to be that way. And that's, you know, why I think you know the message that that you put out there is, is so very, very important.   Michael Hingson ** 29:54 Well, I think it is, and I think that we can learn. And that we can progress in a in a much more positive way, and we may discover along the way that we end up doing some of the same things that we did, but for different reasons, and maybe they really weren't such bad things anyway.   Abby Havermann ** 30:18 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I have, you know, I have clients who have had to, you know, lay off people, you know, and when you're a business owner, you're leaning off people. It feels like the worst thing in the world. You feel like, I know I've done it, yeah, right. I mean, people go into they feel like they failed, they feel guilty, they feel worried about the rest of their employees. And when you start to really unpack it, you know the truth of the matter becomes something else. First of all, if you you know are having to go through a layoff or something, you're typically anything that you do, that you're doing right now, next year, you're going to be doing at a bigger you're going to be playing on a bigger stage. So if you're laying off in your businesses this size next year, you're going to avoid whatever the problem was that caused you to have to do that when you're playing with a bigger stage, when there's more money on the line, right? Yeah, you know that there's when you can approach the world and understanding that your failures are your lessons, and sometimes God does for us what we can't do for ourselves. You know, it makes life a lot easier to get through. You know, we don't end up holding on to the same things, and we learn, like you're saying, faster, instead of continuing to do the same thing over and over again and making the same mistakes over and over again,   Michael Hingson ** 31:39 life gives us the opportunity to really live an adventure and grow if we choose to do it. Unfortunately, all too often, people just won't do it.   Abby Havermann ** 31:51 Yeah, well, I mean, I always say, like not everybody, not every soul is here to evolve. Not every soul is here to do the same thing. And we need, we need everybody here, right? But there's a there's a collective conscious, right? And some people are here to evolve to a certain place. Some people are here to go beyond. Some people are here to just do it all over again,   Michael Hingson ** 32:15 well, but those people who do it all over again hopefully eventually get to the point where they can evolve. And that's part of the issue, of course, is, when are you going to decide to do that? Well,   Abby Havermann ** 32:26 it's never, it's never ending, right? It's like, there is no evolved. It's we're evolving, right? Like, I hope. I like to think that I'm overcoming things in this lifetime that I won't have to come back and do it another but I'm sure they're saying that I'm not, you know, like, so it's a, it's a never ending process, but I think we are. We're taught, you know, that we're not well. We're not taught that. We're not taught that, you know, life is a playground. You know,   Michael Hingson ** 32:56 no, we're not. We're constantly taught that life is hard and so many other things. Rather than Life is an adventure, we can have fun. We ought to have fun. And yeah, there are times to be serious, but still, you can do that in a positive way.   Abby Havermann ** 33:13 Yeah, exactly.   Michael Hingson ** 33:16 I don't know. Maybe Mark Twain was right. I wonder if God had read a man because he was disappointed in the monkeys, but we won't go there. Well,   Abby Havermann ** 33:22 I feel like that now, like, you know, somebody's looking down on us and going, Oh, you guys haven't learned anything yet. Let me throw, let me throw some more things for you to get really upset and divided about and see if you see if you can learn now, and keep kind of proving over and over again that we're not going to learn. We need to keep, we need to keep experiencing all of these things   Michael Hingson ** 33:44 well. But he's probably pleased when somebody does learn. And so that's good too, right? Right?   Abby Havermann ** 33:50 Because it's a collective right? So the more people that begin to start to look inward instead of outward, and begin to see that, you know, they have that power inside themselves. I always say, like, I always wonder, what would it be like, you know, if, if, instead of, you know, focusing on these external things, we were all always focused internally. So something upsets me, and instead of saying, You upset me, or this thing upset me, I immediately go inward and say, Isn't this curious that this, this upset me so much. I wonder what that's about. And if I'm taking care of all of that inside of me, and you're taking care of all of it that's going on inside of you, there's really nothing to argue about. Yeah, and you have more control over your life because you don't have control over what other people do. You can ask them to do things differently. You can say you're upset about it. You can try and manipulate your life so you don't have to deal with things. But at the end of the day, you ultimately don't have control over it. It might work 50% of the time, maybe, if you're lucky, the only thing you have complete control over is how you react to something, right? And   Michael Hingson ** 34:59 that's going to tell. Next steps, and that's what we need to learn to do, is to do a better job of truly reacting, whatever that may mean in any given situation, rather than doing knee jerk reactions to something, and not necessarily doing a very positive or helpful thing. But the reality is, we can learn to listen to that voice inside of us that is there to tell us how to react if we choose to use it and listen to it.   Abby Havermann ** 35:27 And I would say, not even react, but respond. Right? The word responsibility, it's the ability to respond. You know, reacting is what I'm doing when I'm my nervous system is already dysregulated. Right? Responding, you know, is something we can train ourselves to be able to do, to stop, and it doesn't, you know, it doesn't happen overnight. And there's different things that that happen that are going to trigger you more than other things,   Michael Hingson ** 35:55 right? So, when did you start teaching and doing what you're doing now.   Abby Havermann ** 36:03 Well, I after I left my the financial advising, and during that time, I begin to really learn a lot about neuroscience and study under some mentors. And that's when I really realized, like, Oh, this is, this was sort of the missing link for me as a psychotherapist, this is, like it reaffirmed some things that I kind of intuitively knew. And so I began to start doing it in one on one, coaching and teaching in that sense. And then eventually, you know, doing groups and working with teams and things like that since then, so and just kind of bringing all of the modalities that I use together to help people get unstuck, help teams get unstuck, so that, you know, it's possible to to work in ease and flow. And we've all had those times, I hope, where you have a day where you know, you're just running around with your hairs on fire, and you're going from one thing to the next, the next, versus also, you have a day where it's like, gosh, everything just went smoothly. And I didn't worry about time, and I got ended up getting more done than I ever thought I could. You know, like we have control over what kind of day we're going to have. And so it becomes so important, because when we can go into our work or office or our meetings with our clients, instead of being hijacked by all these thoughts of like, Oh, am I prepared? What are they going to think? Oh, my God, that all of these things, instead of going in from, you know, in a place where you're grounded, and what I call inside out instead of outside in, like, worrying about, what do they need? Instead of what am I here to be of service with? It makes everything flow. And I think we need more people in flow and less people in stress and anxiety. So that's kind of when I, when I really started, started to do it. Because I can tell you, in the financial services industry, there's a lot of people in stress   Michael Hingson ** 38:10 and anxiety. Yeah, well, having sold on Wall Street for for many years, and watching traders and, oh yeah, all the things that go on. Yeah, I hear exactly what you're saying. What did your husband think when you decided to leave the financial industry and go back into more of what you're doing now?   Abby Havermann ** 38:28 Well, I don't think he was thrilled, because it left him with, you know, a lot of extra work. But you know, we had actually transitioned at one point. I mean, we were, I was thinking, God, what do I need to do? Like, something's missing. I thought maybe I needed a hobby. So I started to, you know, I joined a choir, and I started writing, and I started doing all these things, and that's what I kind of realized. It's, it's not that I need a hobby, it's that I'm not doing what I'm supposed to be doing. And we had, even, you know, started working with women, and I had been running women's seminars, which were really fun, and he had sort of done more of, like, more of the back end stuff, and I was able to talk to women and all of those things. But even that wasn't enough. And so on the one hand, he wasn't thrilled, and on another, he totally understood that I'm here to do something different, you know, and I you, I really believe that you have to do what makes your heart sing in this in this lifetime, you know? So it was a transition. But he, he's my husband's a rock. I'm very lucky. He's, he's, he's always right there, backing me up. So I was lucky,   Michael Hingson ** 39:37 and he's coping with it well these days, I assume   Abby Havermann ** 39:40 he is, oh yeah, now, yeah. And what we built together, you know, he's able to have the business and the life that that he loves as well. I mean, he's, he was doing it long before me, and, you know, we'll do it long after. So how   Michael Hingson ** 39:56 long ago was it that you left the financial. Environment and started what you're doing   Abby Havermann ** 40:02 now, that was in 2018 Okay, so I started in psychotherapy in 97 and then I started in the financial industry in 2007 ish, and then left in 2018   Michael Hingson ** 40:17 well, but I bet, if you really think about it. And probably you have, you could point out things that you learned during your time in the financial world that that help you today.   Abby Havermann ** 40:27 Oh, of course. I mean, yeah, I mean, right, the whole there was no mistake, right? And I that was, there was lots of gifts that came out of that for me, right? Not, you know, not to mention that I really understand the pressures, the unique pressures of that industry and what people are dealing with, and that informs the work that I do now. But also, even just the self discovery of like, wow, you know it? I didn't need a hobby. I wasn't listening to myself. I was out of alignment? Yeah, no, and that's okay too, because you know what? Doing something for the family, doing something for the people that that I worked with, and being of service in that way was also a gift, you know? So, no regrets for sure,   Michael Hingson ** 41:18 no. And I think that's really the issue you're you're comfortable with what you're doing, and so you shouldn't have to have regrets. And again, you learned a lot, and you recognize that, and that's the most important thing.   Abby Havermann ** 41:33 Yeah, I think having a perspective in life, that everything is truly happening as it should is is important, and if nothing else, really helps you get through a lot easier, right? Because lots of people find themselves in situations, you know, whether it's a divorce, you know, which I had that too, or, you know, things happen that people will beat themselves up about and just feel terrible. How can I do that? And why did this happen? And all of these things, and it's it, it you don't have to have an answer to that. It just did happen. Yeah, right, so, and, and what, what is the opportunity for you in moving through that? Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 42:14 well, I've never experienced divorce directly. My brother went through one, and I'm not under the circumstances, we weren't too surprised. But, you know, he was where he was and all that. But my wife and I were married for 40 years, and as I mentioned, she passed away. And so now, as I tell people, I have to be a good kid, because I know that somewhere she's monitoring, and if I misbehave, I'm going to hear about it. It's as simple   Abby Havermann ** 42:42 as that. And do you? Do you? Do you hear from her? Um,   Michael Hingson ** 42:46 oh, I hear from her, but I haven't heard anything negative, so I guess I'm behaving.   42:51 Oh, that's good. That's good. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 42:54 yeah. I mean, she's she's here, she's monitoring, and, yeah, that's perfectly fine.   Abby Havermann ** 43:00 I always love to hear stories of that, you know, particularly for people who've been married a long time, like, what ways the their person shows up, you know, how you know they're here? Because so many people, you know, when I grew up, my grandmother used to say Dead is dead, and it was absolutely terrifying to believe like that was the end, you know. And so I love hearing people talk about, you know, where, where they, where they feel they, where they, where they feel their loved ones, you know, how they know that they're there? About   Michael Hingson ** 43:33 six months after she passed, I remember waking up in the middle of the night because someone or something had taken a hold of my hand as an example. And it wasn't the cat, and as soon as I woke up, then it was gone. But I know it was there, so, yeah, she's she's monitoring. It's okay. Yeah, I'm good with that. Now, along the way, you delivered a TED talk. How long ago was that?   Abby Havermann ** 43:58 Oh, that was in 2022,   Michael Hingson ** 44:01 okay, so, so the pandemic had started to lift and all that. What if you would tell me about the the TED talk, and what that was all about, and and so on.   Abby Havermann ** 44:10 Yeah, well, the TED talk really came about. It's something I think I've wanted to do for a long time, but it came about actually as a result of my divorce and what I went through during that time, and that was really when I had this kind of come to Jesus, that I realized that the things that had happened in my life that I was not in favor of were directly related to a self betrayal. In other words, it wasn't anyone else's fault that these things happened to me or that I went through them. It was that I consistently, as we said in the beginning, did not go inside, did not listen to my inner voice, betrayed myself in any number of ways by, you know, deferring to what other people thought or making. Decisions, because I didn't think I was worthy of something else, or whatever it was. And it was like, wow, it hit me in the face. It was sort of like there was nowhere else for me to go but jail. Like, literally, I was already in prison because I was not listening to myself at all. And so I had that experience, and then years later, I actually was at a an assembly for my son, who was like, 10 years later, was then in middle school, and they were doing an assembly on sexting for middle school kids, because there was this pandemic and epidemic of kids sexting. And at the time in Colorado, that was a class three felony, and there was really nothing they could do to get it off somebody's record. So they were doing an Internet safety and I was listening to the cop up there talking about what was happening, and he said something that, you know, just really shook me, which was that, you know the he would ask the boys, why do you why do you make them send Why do you pressure these girls into sending pictures? And the boys would say, well, because I wanted to see a picture of her naked. And then they would ask the girls, why? Why are you sending it? And the girls would always say, and I knew exactly what he was going to say. They they said, because I wanted him to love me. And it really brought me back to all the self betrayals I had had as a young a young woman. And, and I thought, my God, nothing has changed. I mean, that was in 2003 right? I was born in 1970 so I just thought, wow, we are still doing the same thing over and over again. And, and it really spurred me to want to tell that story and spread this word, that we have the ability to get out of our own ways, that we can. We don't need, we don't need new legislation, and not that, I'm not that it's not great, and not that we shouldn't have it, but we don't need other people to empower us. We need to empower ourselves. And so that was kind of what my what my TED talk was about.   Michael Hingson ** 47:09 Um, so the title of your talk was, women's liberation is an inside job. Interesting title,   Abby Havermann ** 47:14 yeah, well, and that's literally the truth, right? Like, let you know if you think of like, the biggest extremes of this, of course, are people like Viktor Frankl, you know, who you know talks about how he was in the concentration camps. And you know Man's Search for Meaning, you know how he was liberated, even in the most you know, horrific circumstances. And I really believe that liberation is an inside job for all of us. That is not just for women, but for everyone. It's to me doing a TED talk was great. It was a bucket list thing. I'm so happy I did it. But what makes me feel the most proud of myself is when I overcome some part of myself. That is what makes me feel liberated when something goes wrong in my inner in my external world and my inner world doesn't go crazy, I'm like, oh my god, that is freedom. When something happens in my external world and I lose it or I go into a funk, that's prison. To me. Liberation is being able to be in ease and flow, no matter what is happening in our outer world, and no matter who is irritating us, or what life circumstances plopped in my lap. Yeah, that's kind of how I mean that, yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 48:36 well, and I gather that the that the talk went well and was well received, I assume,   Abby Havermann ** 48:44 yeah, I mean, I think that it, they forced some edits on it, which I understand in hindsight. I wish I had known, but I would could have told the story differently. But no, it was. It was very well received. And I often hear from people who tell me that they that they shared it widely, and it was impactful. So, but you know, if you, if you unpack just one, one other person, you know, like, it's worth it. Yeah, worth it. So it didn't go viral. You know, it didn't, it wasn't as big as, you know, many TED talks are, but that's okay, you know, people came up to me after and said, You know, I'm the person you needed to talk to. And I was like, All right, now my job's done. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 49:27 you You did. You did well, or, as I like to say, you done good. And, yeah, and that's what's important. You talk about the dark night of the soul. What is that? Well, the   Abby Havermann ** 49:39 dark night of the soul is, you know, that come to Jesus moment. And I always say, you know, when I write in my newsletters, I often write about, you know, come to Jesus moments and dark nights of soul. And I always say, you know, if you haven't had one of these, and then you're probably not for me, because, you know, or I'm probably not for you. Is really how that is, because it's the dark night of the soul. Is. Is when you really come face to face with yourself, and you can no longer, you know, blame other people. You can no longer not change. You realize that something's happening and it's requiring you to be a different person, and you see something in yourself that maybe you don't like, you know, or you see something that you realize you can't have. It's not going to work. It's not going to be the way you keep trying to make it be. And you have to come up against yourself and make some really hard decisions and some hard choices and see things in yourself that maybe you don't want to see, you don't want to know about. You'd rather think about yourself in a different way. Yeah, the dark night. Have you had one? I'm   Michael Hingson ** 50:44 not thinking of one right off, but I am sure I have,   Abby Havermann ** 50:47 yeah, yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 50:51 I think that we all have, yeah. Actually, I can. Can think of some where I was behaving in particular ways. And sometimes it's I learn about it because somebody comes along and said, You're a dirt bag, or you misbehaved, or the way you're treating people, and I've had to think about that. But I think for me, although I didn't notice it until somebody mentioned it, when it occurs and somebody says something, my immediate reaction is to think about that and to internalize it, and to go back and look at, well, what, what is the issue? And sometimes I have realized that it wasn't me and somebody's being manipulative, but sometimes it is me, and it is important to be able to get introspective and think about what is occurring and and look at what's going on and what part of it is you, and what part of it is not you,   Abby Havermann ** 51:49 yeah. And I think it's, you know? I mean, it's so impossible to really, truly know ourselves and have a really accurate picture of ourselves. We all have a picture of ourselves, but it's, it's never really accurate, because of the way our brains are wired and so continuing to be open and curious like that, I think is is so important. And we, you know, you come to your own truth, right? But I think truth is so important to be truthful to yourself, whether it's whether you're throwing yourself under the bus that's not truthful. You know, whether you're saying, Oh, I suck at this, or whatever I made, you know what? That's not truthful, or whether you're tooting your own horn, and that's not entirely truthful. No, you know. It's a you know, to me, like self introspection, like that's that is where it's at. That, to me, is the most fascinating and the quickest road to success and growth you can possibly have. It's not, it's not what's happening externally. It's, it's, how are you actualizing yourself within? Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 52:58 and that's why it gets back to really learning how to step back and look at situations and looking at all aspects of it to make a final decision about, what do I need to do, if anything, to address the issue, whatever it may be,   Abby Havermann ** 53:15 yeah, and I think, you know, there's value in that. Of course there is, but a lot of times that's a that's an analysis, and a lot of times we need to step away from the analysis, and we need to just with it and observe it and just be curious about it. Oh, exactly, and be okay with what is. And that's sometimes when the biggest answers come to us. I think that's why, you know they say that the right brain processes 800 times faster than the left brain, because the left brain is worried. What do I need to do differently? How do I need to analysis, analysis, analysis. Whereas when you can settle your brain and body down, whether it's through a meditation or a heart math practice or a Positive Intelligence practice or what, whatever it is, sometimes the answer is right there it like drops in, you know, just the way you had, you felt your wife hold your hand, right, you know. And it just happened so much faster than all of the thinking and the planning and the spreadsheets and the that you that we put ourselves through trying to come up with the quote right answer,   Michael Hingson ** 54:21 yeah. And I don't want to make it really clear, I'm not necessarily advocating just analysis, and I'm not analysis, though, what I think analysis can do is lead to you opening up and dealing with the rest of the issues. So analysis may be a starting point, but it's not the end all solution,   Abby Havermann ** 54:43 yeah, and it, and we need to be careful about getting stuck in it, yeah? Oh, absolutely stuck in that place of over, you know, going over and over that,   Michael Hingson ** 54:53 because that takes us right back to where we were before. Well, right? Because   Abby Havermann ** 54:56 Einstein said, you know, you can't solve a problem from the same level. Level of mind that created it, right?   Michael Hingson ** 55:03 Yeah. And so you can go back and look at, well, what what happened? What is it the people are saying and all that, but you've got to go further than that. And so it, it is emotional as well as anything else, which is probably why we haven't met Vulcans like Mr. Spock yet.   Abby Havermann ** 55:23 Well, yeah, I mean, and that's the thing, right? It's like people are emotional beings, right? So we think that we need to work things out logically and everything, but emotions are not logical, and so much of life and business is about relationships, right?   Michael Hingson ** 55:38 But the but the one thing that we can do, though, is that it gets back to introspection in all forms. We do need to learn how to step back and allow ourselves to listen to that inner voice to come up with the best solution, because that's where the best solution will always be.   Abby Havermann ** 55:59 Yeah, yeah. So true. And so many people doubt it. So many people doubt that it's inside them. You know, they'll come and be like, What do you think? What do you think? And I always say it's, I could tell you what I think, but you'll end up working with me far longer than you need to, because it's not what you think. So let's, let's do some let's dive in and find out what your inner wisdom is telling you, because that's the only way you're going to rest, that's the only way you're going to know for certain, right, the right thing to do, because you feel it in your bones.   Michael Hingson ** 56:30 How do people who think less of themselves or don't have a lot of self worth? How can you help them move forward to becoming more confident, and I mean that in a positive way, as opposed to just developing an ego, and I'm great, and that's all there is to it. But how do you get people, or how do you help move people from a lack of self worth to self confidence? Yeah,   Abby Havermann ** 56:52 I mean, I think that self worth is, like one of the biggest, if not the biggest, problem that we have. And I do think there are a handful of people, I think you might be one of them that just has an inner constitution that, you know, is just a really lucky one. My son is one of them too. You know, he has this disability, and I swear to God, I've never seen a kid, you know, just kind of bounce back, you know, like he's here to be humbled. You know, it's not, it's not, you know, his constitution is just built that way. But I think for the vast majority of people, we're dealing with imposter syndrome. We're dealing with self worth issues. And oftentimes people say, Well, I don't have a worthiness issue because they're they have a great life, they have a great family, they have a great business. They and they can't they like themselves. They can't really relate to feeling a worthiness issue. But when you dial down and really talk to them about, you know, what are their fears, or what's getting in their way, or what's happening, it all comes back to this question of, you know, am I enough and trying to prove themselves and whatnot. And so one of my taglines is, I say, you know, stop, it's time to stop proving your worth and start owning your worth. Because your worth is there. It's always there. Your your validity is always there. The only thing that happened is you turned your gaze away from it. You started looking for it outside of yourself and instead of inside of yourself, and so it's, it's a harder question to answer, because it's, it's an evolution. It's not, you know, well, I just need to say, you know, 10 affirmations every day, and then I'm going to wake up more confident the next day, right? It has to do with acknowledging and being able to catch those if I was going to use Positive Intelligence language, those saboteurs that you know, for example, the hyper achiever Salvatore that wants to tell you that you're worth you're only as worthy as your last achievement. You know it's being able to catch that and being able to say, Wait a minute. Let me once again, sit you down and go back into who I am at the core of me, what is my essence and and aligning with the truth of who we are, which is we are not our body, we are not our mind, we we're much, much more than that. So there's a lot of different practices that we go, that I go through with people, but I do think that part of it is acknowledging that we're all somewhere along the same journey. And so much of the time it's just almost all the time, it's like one ego is talking to another ego. I'm I'm telling you, whatever I'm telling you. From my ego, you're telling me what you're telling me from your ego, very rarely are people actually, truly talking from their hearts. Part of developing confidence, I think, is an ability to align with your authentic self, where you're not putting yourself. Below anybody else. You're not putting yourself above anybody else. You're just aligning with what is real for you and putting yourself out there in that way and getting comfortable with that. And we can make decisions from that place. We feel more confident about our decisions. We never regret a decision that happened truly intuitively, right,   Michael Hingson ** 1:00:21 right? Well, you've, you've worked with a lot of clients, and I've had some successes. I'd love to hear maybe a success story where you really made a difference, or you helped someone make their own difference.   Abby Havermann ** 1:00:39 Yeah. I mean, I think that, let's see, you know, I mean, there's, there's a lot of different ways I could, I could go with that. You know, sometimes what happens when people can have a shift is everything changes. So I had a client who was going she almost didn't come to our call because she was just covered in shame about something that was happening in her business. And we were able to work on it, not only in that introductory call, but throughout the ensuing year where everything changed for her business. So when I used to ask her, you know, listen, what, what do you what do you want? What is it? Well, I want to be the best. Well, what does that mean? I want to be the best, right? I want to be the best. You know. Again, that goes back to this dysregulated nervous system, that's right, if I'm best, then I'll feel better. Then I'll feel better, right? And after a course of working together and working with her team and really getting her to get in touch with the incredible work that her company does from a real perspective, not where she's just telling herself it or patting herself on the back, but really beginning to see what they're doing, and a close attention to her, watching her inner world. She came up with the most beautiful business statement that I think I had ever heard, and couldn't even really remember the time, where she said, Yeah, I wanted to be the best. It wasn't about that, you know? It's about, I want to make a difference. This is what our team is doing. This is what I'm about in the world. This is what's important to me. And as a result, you know, made some incredible changes, money, you know, pouring in and working a lot on that automatic fear that you know financial ruin is on the other side of the wall, which is just a completely internal fear, and being able to release that so that you release the energetic field around you that's holding those circumstances in place, and having a

A quick update that early registration is now open for Thom's upcoming annual retreat in Sedona, Arizona, this Memorial Day weekend from May 22nd to 26.This is Thom's first retreat in the United States since the epic Maha Kumbha Mela held earlier this year in Prayagraj, India, so Thom has many fascinating new stories to share. The Sedona Rounding Retreat is also your opportunity to gift yourself profound rest and industrial-strength meditation through the daily rounding program. This is your chance to transcend uncertainty in the ever-changing world and celebrate spring surrounded by nature, supported by community, and immersed in wisdom with Thom.  Early registration discounts expire on March 17th, and you can find out more at thomknoles.com/sedona.Jai Guru Deva.Twentieth-century science made a groundbreaking discovery: the Unified Field. This concept revolutionized physics, prompting scientists to reconsider the completeness of the Newtonian understanding of the universe.However, the Unified Field wasn't a new concept. Vedic Rishis and scholars have understood its existence for thousands of years, referring to it as "the field of Being."In this episode, Thom explores the Vedic perspective on this Unified Field of Consciousness and how it applies to our daily lives.Episode Highlights[00:45] Sankhya - The Cosmic Story Line[04:21] Is-ness, Am-ness, I-ness, My-ness[06:45] The 25 Qualities of the Unified Field of Consciousness[08:54] Breaking of Symmetry[13:09] Sequential Elaboration[17:45] Dharma - What is the Most Relevant Thing for You to Be?[21:07] Refreshing Our Relevance Through Vedic Meditation[24:27] Removing Identities of the Past[27:03] Not Just Any MeditationUseful Linksinfo@thomknoles.com https://thomknoles.com/https://www.instagram.com/thethomknoleshttps://www.facebook.com/thethomknoleshttps://www.youtube.com/c/thomknoleshttps://thomknoles.com/ask-thom-anything/

Science tells us one thing. Spirituality tells us another. But what if they've been saying the same thing all along?We've been conditioned to think that healing is either clinical or mystical, either you follow the science, or you dive into ancient practices. But what if the missing piece in your healing journey isn't a better diet, a stricter routine, or even more discipline, but a whole new way of seeing yourself?In this episode, Dr. Theresa Bullard-White joins me to break down what quantum science, epigenetics, and ancient wisdom all point to: your body isn't just reacting to life, it's creating it. Together, we'll talk about why the way you think, feel, and exist in the world has a direct impact on your well-being, and when you learn to shift from linear, Newtonian thinking to a quantum, multidimensional perspective, everything changes.Dr. Theresa Bullard-White is a physicist, author, and world-renowned teacher. With a Ph.D. in physics and decades of experience studying consciousness. As the host of Mystery Teachings on Gaia TV and co-founder of the Quantum Learning Academy, she empowers people to move beyond linear thinking.We Also Discuss:(00:00) Rootedness in Conscious Living and Purpose(03:55) Journey to Integrating Science and Spirituality(14:31) The Shift to Quantum Healing(23:56) Quantum Coherence and Epigenetics(36:49) Exploring Quantum Mindset and Purpose(40:48) Awakening Frequency and Consciousness(50:27) Elevating Consciousness Through Alchemy(58:51) Unlocking Healing Potential Through Activation(01:10:44) Simplifying Health and Quantum Mindset(01:15:55) Blending Spirituality and Quantum HealingThank you to our sponsor:Fatty 15: Unlock healthier aging with Fatty15! Get 15% off your 90-day Starter Kit at fatty15.com/MONA with code MONA—because longevity starts at the cellular level.IM8: Optimize your health with IM8—the all-in-one daily drink backed by science. Get 10% off with code MONASHARMA10 atim8health.com!Learn more about Mona SharmaWebsite: www.monasharma.comInstagram: @monasharmaSHOP NOW: Cymbiotika.com/MonasharmaLearn More about Dr. Theresa Bullard-WhiteWebsite: https://www.gaia.com/portal/theresabullard Instagram: @dr.theresabullard

Immanuel Kant was popular at his death. The whole town emptied out to see him. His last words were "it is good". But was his philosophy any good? In order to find out, we dive into Chapter 7 of Conjectures and Refutations: Kant's Critique and Cosmology, where Popper rescues Kant's reputation from the clutches of the dastardly German Idealists. We discuss Deontology vs consquentialism vs virtue ethics Kant's Categorical Imperative Kant's contributions to cosmology and politics Kant as a defender of the enlightenment Romanticism vs (German) idealism vs critical rationalism Kant's cosmology and cosmogony Kant's antimony and his proofs that the universe is both finite and infinite in time Kant's Copernican revolution and transcendental idealism Kant's morality Why Popper admired Kant so much, and why he compares him to Socrates Quotes Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed immaturity. Immaturity is the inability to use one's understanding without guidance from another. This immaturity is self-imposed when its cause lies not in lack of understanding, but in lack of resolve and courage to use it without guidance from another. Sapere Aude! "Have courage to use your own understanding!" --that is the motto of enlightenment. - An Answer to the Question: What is Enlightenment? (Translated by Ted Humphrey, Hackett Publishing, 1992) (Alternate translation from Popper: Enlightenment is the emancipation of man from a state of self-imposed tutelage . . . of incapacity to use his own intelligence without external guidance. Such a state of tutelage I call ‘self-imposed' if it is due, not to lack of intelligence, but to lack of courage or determination to use one's own intelligence without the help of a leader. Sapere aude! Dare to use your own intelligence! This is the battle-cry of the Enlightenment.) - C&R, Chap 6 What lesson did Kant draw from these bewildering antinomies? He concluded that our ideas of space and time are inapplicable to the universe as a whole. We can, of course, apply the ideas of space and time to ordinary physical things and physical events. But space and time themselves are neither things nor events: they cannot even be observed: they are more elusive. They are a kind of framework for things and events: something like a system of pigeon-holes, or a filing system, for observations. Space and time are not part of the real empir- ical world of things and events, but rather part of our mental outfit, our apparatus for grasping this world. Their proper use is as instruments of observation: in observing any event we locate it, as a rule, immediately and intuitively in an order of space and time. Thus space and time may be described as a frame of reference which is not based upon experience but intuitively used in experience, and properly applicable to experience. This is why we get into trouble if we misapply the ideas of space and time by using them in a field which transcends all possible experience—as we did in our two proofs about the universe as a whole. ... To the view which I have just outlined Kant chose to give the ugly and doubly misleading name ‘Transcendental Idealism'. He soon regretted this choice, for it made people believe that he was an idealist in the sense of denying the reality of physical things: that he declared physical things to be mere ideas. Kant hastened to explain that he had only denied that space and time are empirical and real — empirical and real in the sense in which physical things and events are empirical and real. But in vain did he protest. His difficult style sealed his fate: he was to be revered as the father of German Idealism. I suggest that it is time to put this right. - C&R, Chap 6 Kant believed in the Enlightenment. He was its last great defender. I realize that this is not the usual view. While I see Kant as the defender of the Enlightenment, he is more often taken as the founder of the school which destroyed it—of the Romantic School of Fichte, Schelling, and Hegel. I contend that these two interpretations are incompatible. Fichte, and later Hegel, tried to appropriate Kant as the founder of their school. But Kant lived long enough to reject the persistent advances of Fichte, who proclaimed himself Kant's successor and heir. In A Public Declaration Concerning Fichte, which is too little known, Kant wrote: ‘May God protect us from our friends. . . . For there are fraudulent and perfidious so-called friends who are scheming for our ruin while speaking the language of good-will.' - C&R, Chap 6 As Kant puts it, Copernicus, finding that no progress was being made with the theory of the revolving heavens, broke the deadlock by turning the tables, as it were: he assumed that it is not the heavens which revolve while we the observers stand still, but that we the observers revolve while the heavens stand still. In a similar way, Kant says, the problem of scientific knowledge is to be solved — the problem how an exact science, such as Newtonian theory, is possible, and how it could ever have been found. We must give up the view that we are passive observers, waiting for nature to impress its regularity upon us. Instead we must adopt the view that in digesting our sense-data we actively impress the order and the laws of our intellect upon them. Our cosmos bears the imprint of our minds. - C&R, Chap 6 From Kant the cosmologist, the philosopher of knowledge and of science, I now turn to Kant the moralist. I do not know whether it has been noticed before that the fundamental idea of Kant's ethics amounts to another Copernican Revolution, analogous in every respect to the one I have described. For Kant makes man the lawgiver of morality just as he makes him the lawgiver of nature. And in doing so he gives back to man his central place both in his moral and in his physical universe. Kant humanized ethics, as he had humanized science. ... Kant's Copernican Revolution in the field of ethics is contained in his doctrine of autonomy—the doctrine that we cannot accept the command of an authority, however exalted, as the ultimate basis of ethics. For whenever we are faced with a command by an authority, it is our responsibility to judge whether this command is moral or immoral. The authority may have power to enforce its commands, and we may be powerless to resist. But unless we are physically prevented from choosing the responsibility remains ours. It is our decision whether to obey a command, whether to accept authority. - C&R, Chap 6 Stepping back further to get a still more distant view of Kant's historical role, we may compare him with Socrates. Both were accused of perverting the state religion, and of corrupting the minds of the young. Both denied the charge; and both stood up for freedom of thought. Freedom meant more to them than absence of constraint; it was for both a way of life. ... To this Socratic idea of self-sufficiency, which forms part of our western heritage, Kant has given a new meaning in the fields of both knowledge and morals. And he has added to it further the idea of a community of free men—of all men. For he has shown that every man is free; not because he is born free, but because he is born with the burden of responsibility for free decision. - C&R, Chap 6 Socials Follow us on Twitter at @IncrementsPod, @BennyChugg, @VadenMasrani Come join our discord server! DM us on twitter or send us an email to get a supersecret link Become a patreon subscriber here (https://www.patreon.com/Increments). Or give us one-time cash donations to help cover our lack of cash donations here (https://ko-fi.com/increments). Click dem like buttons on youtube (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4wZzQyoW4s4ZuE4FY9DQQ) Follow the Kantian Imperative: Stop masturbating and/or/while getting your hair cut, and start sending emails over to incrementspodcast@gmail.com.

Do you feel like you're constantly running out of time?This episode is all about changing your relationship with time so you can get more out of your day!Discover my six secret strategies to stretch your time, manage your energy, and even my fave hack to use to 'stop time' when running late.We dive in to:How I used these principles, and how they took me from 'running out of time' to having 'all the time in the world'Newtonian vs Einstein Time: Understand the different perspectives on time and how this impacts your experience.Reprogramming your beliefs about time: Shift from negative thoughts about time scarcity to beliefs that support you.Learn how slowing down can actually make you more productive.Time Blocking: Understand how giving your tasks a defined time slot helps you to get more done.Stop clock watching: How observing the clock increases the feeling of time pressure.And lastly, my #1 hack if you're running late: A simple but powerful technique to arrive on time, even when you feel you're running late.I can't wait to hear how these strategies work for you!Enjoy the episode,Love Shani xoxoLoved the show? I would LOVE for you to click 'follow' & keep up to date with all things BIZ SHIZ.Also while you're at it - if you feel like leaving a review it would mean the world to me and it helps this podcast get in more ears.Or over at @shani_timms for all things podcast, business & life.Want to start your brand for $99 - check out the BRAND:IT bundle HERE.OR Check out my FREE Business Blueprint Workshop + Worksheet HERE.

Vesela Mangeyna is a certified Business and Life Coach, Senior Trainer under Peter Sage, and founder of Voice of Mind Coaching Ltd. With 13 years of corporate finance experience, including 9 years at Ernst & Young in the USA and Bulgaria, Vesela has transformed her life from a low-confidence auditor into a passionate coach. Now an NLP Practitioner and NLP Master, Vesela is dedicated to helping others achieve personal and professional growth. Vesela's personal journey, from struggling with self-esteem to becoming confident and decisive, fuels her favorite podcast topic: Building Confidence. She explores actionable strategies for overcoming limiting beliefs, embracing authenticity, and stepping out of comfort zones. Another focus is Mastering Your Life, where she discusses how to shift from living by force to living by power, diving into the transition from Newtonian to quantum reality. You can connect with Vesela at https://elitementorshiptrainer.com/veselamangeyna/

Guest: Dr Leandro Herrero: Chief Organisational Architect / Founder of The Chalfont Project, Author and International Speaker Even today, the focus on the exclusive power of leadership at the high ranks of the organisation prevails in the minds of employees, managers and leaders. We have collectively outsourced to them not just the responsibilities for visions and strategies but also role modelling, influence, authority and all sorts of powers. Middle management is just the middle man. The role of employees is to be engaged and have a voice. As caricatured as it may sound, the collective assumptions about workplaces are, consciously or not, well routed in this. But this emperor has no clothes. Dr. Leandro Herrero is the CEO of The Chalfont Project, a pioneering international firm of Organisational Architects specialising in large-scale behavioural and cultural transformation. Dr. Herrero, a psychiatrist by training and profession, is the founder of the ground-breaking methodology of Viral Change™. He has authored several influential books on mobilising change, including Viral Change™, Homo Imitans, and The Flipping Point. He bridges behavioural science with hands-on strategies to create lasting, real-world impact, his work has consistently shaped the landscape of leadership and organizational dynamics across sectors. Join us as we discuss the key to employee engagement and culture change. Read Dr Herrero's latest blog on Engage for Success website here. Host: Jo Moffatt

Guest: Dr Leandro Herrero: Chief Organisational Architect / Founder of The Chalfont Project, Author and International Speaker Even today, the focus on the exclusive power of leadership at the high ranks of the organisation prevails in the minds of employees, managers and leaders. We have collectively outsourced to them not just the responsibilities for visions and strategies but also role modelling, influence, authority and all sorts of powers. Middle management is just the middle man. The role of employees is to be engaged and have a voice. As caricatured as it may sound, the collective assumptions about workplaces are, consciously or not, well routed in this. But this emperor has no clothes. Dr. Leandro Herrero is the CEO of The Chalfont Project, a pioneering international firm of Organisational Architects specialising in large-scale behavioural and cultural transformation. Dr. Herrero, a psychiatrist by training and profession, is the founder of the ground-breaking methodology of Viral Change™. He has authored several influential books on mobilising change, including Viral Change™, Homo Imitans, and The Flipping Point. He bridges behavioural science with hands-on strategies to create lasting, real-world impact, his work has consistently shaped the landscape of leadership and organizational dynamics across sectors. Join us as we discuss the key to employee engagement and culture change. Read Dr Herrero's latest blog on Engage for Success website here. Listen Live (Archive Available) Host: Jo Moffatt

Austin Abigt is a philosopher, writer, and one of the key members of the of the Renewal of Science movement, which seeks to chart a path for scientific rebirth. In this conversation, Abigt explains how modern science is the product of two distinct philosophical lineages - one founded by Newton and Descartes, the other by Goethe. The Newtonian paradigm, roughly summarized by "shut up and calculate" has been invaluable for the development of the modern world, but Abigt argues that its ability to keep moving us forward to a deeper and deeper understanding of nature is inherently limited. To be able to make progress, we have to turn to the alternative scientific thread, the Goethian one, that advocates for a more holistic approach to nature. Rather than demanding a single story, Abigt argues that it's time to embrace the inherent complexity of nature. PATREON: get episodes early + join our weekly Patron Chat https://bit.ly/3lcAasB MERCH: Rock some DemystifySci gear : https://demystifysci.myspreadshop.com/ AMAZON: Do your shopping through this link: https://amzn.to/3YyoT98 SUBSTACK: https://substack.com/@UCqV4_7i9h1_V7hY48eZZSLw@demystifysci References from Austin: Sheldon's Soul and Matter Essay: https://www.jstor.org/stable/2178912 (00:00) Go! (00:07:25) Alternative Scientific History (00:15:28) Evolution of Educational Traditions (00:27:03) Goethean Spectrum (00:39:20) Diverging Scientific Views (00:48:34) Mystical Elements in Science (00:58:07) Alternative Scientific Approaches (01:10:45) The Shift in Scientific Thinking (01:20:08) Social Engineering and Consciousness (01:27:50) Industrialization and Scientific Management (01:35:21) Anthroposophy and Cultural Integration (01:46:03) Idealism vs. Materialism (01:54:20) The Interplay of Perception, Reality, and Will (02:05:41) Morality of Science (02:16:12) Truth and Beauty is all there is? (02:25:28) Lunar Cycles and Plant Growth Studies (02:28:38) Bridging Spirituality and Science (02:37:02) Exploring Materialism and Mind (02:46:04) Unifying Science and Philosophy #PhilosophyOfScience, #Anthroposophy, #HistoryOfIdeas, #ScienceHistory, #ScientificInquiry, #AlternativeScience, #RenaissanceScience, #GoetheanScience, , #ScientificParadigms, #ScienceAndSpirituality, #ScientificRevolution, #HolisticScience, #MysticalScience, #ScienceEducation, #ScientificIntegration, , #PhilosophicalDebates, #CulturalEvolution, #ScienceAndArt, #SpiritualKnowledge, #ModernScienceCritique#sciencepodcast, #longformpodcast Check our short-films channel, @DemystifySci: https://www.youtube.com/c/DemystifyingScience AND our material science investigations of atomics, @MaterialAtomics https://www.youtube.com/@MaterialAtomics Join our mailing list https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S PODCAST INFO: Anastasia completed her PhD studying bioelectricity at Columbia University. When not talking to brilliant people or making movies, she spends her time painting, reading, and guiding backcountry excursions. Shilo also did his PhD at Columbia studying the elastic properties of molecular water. When he's not in the film studio, he's exploring sound in music. They are both freelance professors at various universities. - Blog: http://DemystifySci.com/blog - RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rss - Donate: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaD - Swag: https://bit.ly/2PXdC2y SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySci MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671

In this enlightening conversation, Kimberly and Philip Samor Von Holtzendorf delve into the realms of quantum energy, interconnectedness, and personal resilience. They explore the shift from Newtonian physics to a quantum understanding of the universe, emphasizing the importance of energy fields and heart coherence. Philip shares insights from his journey from a corporate executive to a pioneer in the quantum energy field, discussing the impact of electromagnetic frequencies (EMFs) on health and the significance of raising one's vibration. The conversation also highlights scientific research supporting the benefits of quantum technology in healing and personal well-being. In this conversation, They also the realms of shamanic healing, energy work, and the transformative power of quantum energy. Philipp shares his journey from corporate life to a heart-centered approach to wellness, driven by personal experiences with chronic illness. They discuss the development of innovative products designed to harness and concentrate quantum energy for healing purposes, emphasizing the importance of energy in our lives. The conversation also touches on the scientific validation of these practices and the community built around this healing technology.

In the new book, Inflamed: Theory, Kathryn Walker, an accomplished nurse anesthetist and psychiatric nurse practitioner, delves into the intricate relationship between mental health and the neurological and inflammatory processes within the brain. This insightful book challenges traditional mental health theories and introduces innovative approaches to understanding and treating mental health conditions. The book covers a wide range of topics, including: The disruptive force of psychedelics in mental health The Newtonian framework of mental health and understanding conflict The cognitive dynamics of ketamine therapy Advanced mental health interventions and their implications Inflamed: Theory serves as both a chronicle and a guide, offering readers a profound exploration of the evolving landscape of mental health care. Drawing from her extensive experience as a practitioner and subject matter expert, Kathryn provides a unique perspective on how cutting-edge therapies can revolutionize the field. Kathryn is the CEO of Revitalist Lifestyle and Wellness, which serves as a leading mental health and wellness company led by a comprehensive team of specialty providers. Kathryn worked at a Level 1 Trauma Center in Tennessee for nine years before attending anesthesia school at the University of North Carolina-Charlotte. She practiced anesthesia of all specialties for eight years before opening the first Revitalist location in Knoxville, TN in 2018. Today Kathryn operates as a leading advocate for psychedelic medicine as she continues to advance her comprehensive skill set recently graduating with her second Master's degree in Psychiatric Nursing as a Psychiatric Mental Health Nurse Practitioner. Recognizing the need for community access, Kathryn founded the national mental health 501c3 nonprofit, Community Change Foundation (CommunityChangeFoundation.org). This nonprofit foundation focuses on providing financial assistance to veterans, frontline workers, and the financially disadvantaged seeking help with psychedelic therapies. Kathryn incorporated the Community Change Foundation in 2019. Recognizing the need for education and training advancements, Kathryn founded the American Association of Psychedelics (AAPsychedelics.org). This education non-profit 501c3 aims to continually bring high quality education and training to all disciplines of providers. Kathryn incorporated the American Association of Psychedelics in 2021. Kathryn is the Academic Detailer for the MetroDrug Coalition, she sits on the board for American Association of Psychedelics, Mental Health Association of East Tennessee, Herzig University, and Women in Psychedelics. Learn more: https://kathrynawalker.com/ https://www.instagram.com/revitalist  https://www.instagram.com/katwalk1217/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathryn-walker-33a868115/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/revitalist/ Kathryn's book "Inflamed: Theory," is now available for presale through the weblink: https://www.revitalistclinic.com/inflamed  --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/maria-leonard-olsen/support

Hold up, wait a minute! Isn't there a Newtonian law or something that says quarterly revenue can only go higher with Celsius energy drinks? Celsius Holdings (NASDAQ: CELH) had quarterly revenue of $265.7 million, which was down 31% YoY. Believe it or not…the last time Celsius Holdings had negative YoY revenue growth was in the first quarter of 2016 when the energy drink brand was generating around $4 million of quarterly revenue. According to Circana last 13-week data, CELSIUS accounted for 16% of all energy drink category growth YoY in the third quarter of 2024. In addition, Celsius grew market share slightly to 11.8% and is now securely the third-largest energy drink brand in the category. And I don't want gloss over this accomplishment…because it's the first time in over a decade that an energy drink not named Red Bull or Monster Energy has had a 10% share in the U.S. market. Celsius energy drinks has seen massive growth in convenience stores, foodservice (e.g. fast food restaurants), mass retailers like Walmart, the club channel in retailers like Costco, and the Amazon marketplace. Additionally, the early international market development groundwork starting to formalize with CELSIUS extending its relationship with Suntory Beverage & Food and also the first major international market expansion under the PepsiCo umbrella (i.e. Canada). It's my opinion that international expansion presents significant opportunity for incremental growth over the next three to five years. With Celsius at basically full distribution now…the TDP growth will have to come from increased items carried per store. Going forward, Celsius will increase items per store through a combination of product strategies like flavor, format, pack size, and variant expansion. Additionally, CELISUS will continue scaling up the new Essentials lineup that has exceeded the company's expectations. Moreover, they will seek more store placements like leveraging cold display activity in Celsius-branded coolers. While the U.S. energy drinks market has never been bigger than right now, competition within the category has never been greater (with C4 Energy, GHOST, and Alani Nu continuing to push market leaders). Then, you have categorical growth rates slowing and macroeconomic factors pressuring same-store sales of the largest convenience store chains. Finally, I'll breakdown a collection of categorical acquisitions that directly (and indirectly) impacted Celsius Holdings...which includes the recent news that Celsius acquired Big Beverages Contract Manufacturing, Keurig Dr Pepper (KDP) acquiring GHOST, and Molson Coors acquiring ZOA Energy. FOLLOW ME ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LINKEDIN⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YOUTUBE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TWITTER⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠INSTAGRAM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FACEBOOK⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/joshua-schall/support

Tom Paladino, a scalar energy researcher who dedicated over 50 years to studying zero-point energy, shared insights on the healing potential of scalar light. He explained how this nonphysical energy can promote well-being, reduce disease signatures, and enhance health through unique methods such as using photographs for quantum healing. Tune in to learn more about how scalar energy can improve your health.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:What scalar energy is and how it differs from electromagnetic energy.How scalar energy can promote overall health and wellness.Tom's technique using photographs to transmit healing energy.How Tom stays motivated and confident in his unique approach.Tom's personal health routines that support his longevity and vitality.Episode References/Links:Scalar Light FacebookScalar LightDr. Mindy PelzGuest Bio:Tom Paladino was a dedicated researcher in the field of scalar energy for over 50 years. Inspired by Nikola Tesla and Dr. T. Galen Hieronymus, Paladino developed scalar light instruments aimed at promoting health and balancing energy fields by working with photographs. His work focused on utilizing scalar light to target pathogens, promote healing, and harmonize brain waves and chakras. Over the course of his career, Paladino's innovations helped thousands of people worldwide, and he remained passionate about improving human welfare through this emerging science. His legacy continues to influence the niche field of scalar energy research. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Tom Paladino 0:00  This is a new science, quantum science, in which we access a person's aura, their force field, through their photograph. It's a new way of wellness in which there's no physical downside, there's no chemical reaction.Lesley Logan 0:16  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 0:57  All right, Be It babe, I have something you've never heard of before. I'm pretty sure. And it was (inaudible) something I hadn't heard of before. And there were a couple of reasons why I wanted to have our guest today on the pod. One, I find unique things interesting. And who am I to maybe this is the thing that you've always been needing to help you be it till you see it. The other thing, the other reason why, is I find when people are doing something new and different and going out of the box, very fascinating, kind of interesting, I find it like, how are they doing that? Because we live in a world that's like, let's be a tulip. Don't get taller than all the other ones, and don't constantly in the coaching world that I've been in, it's like, you don't actually want to be doing something new. You want to be doing something that's already been done before, which I find is really dumb and annoying. So I really was intrigued when I met our guest, is Tom Paladino, and the work he is doing, and it's all about energy and some healing powers. And then we also got into how he's been able to maintain his stamina and passion around something that no one's really heard of. So I think you'll find it very fascinating. And if you do use his amazing work, please let us know. We'd love to know how it's going to go out for you. And also, if you're like, yeah, I don't know about this, I still think you're going to get something so well, actually, I know, I know you're getting something so good about this, because just being around people who are freaking passionate about what they do is actually like, I am on a high just having talked with him, not having used the service yet, just having just talked to him because most of us are just around people who don't believe in themselves. And so then you walk around with that energy around you. And so listen to this guy, just for the fact of the pure passion and enthusiasm that he has about what he does. And then, if you like what he's doing, take a look at it. Also, I liked his be it action items, they're in a way, simple and yet so difficult for us to do and so I can't wait to see how you use them in your life. Here is Tom Paladino. Lesley Logan 3:00  All right, Be It babe, I promise you, today's guest is the first you've ever heard of this, and I know it's the first I've ever heard of this. And I'm really excited to dive in deeper, because I find it fascinating, intriguing, interesting, wondering, curious. So Tom Paladino is our guest today. He's a researcher. He's amazing. He's figured out some amazing things he's been doing for a really long time. Tom tell everyone who you are and what you rock at. Tom Paladino 3:23  Thank you for the invite. First of all, listen, thank you. I'm a researcher. I'm a scalar light researcher, what some people might call zero point energy or Tesla energy. What distinguishes my work is I do not work with electricity. Most researchers today are working with electricity magnetism, electromagnetic energy. Well, there's two energies I'd rather work with, scalar energy. It's quite superior to that of electricity. So we're going to speak about scalar energy testing. Lesley Logan 3:50  Okay, so I know electromagnetic energy. That one I've got. Some of the other words you said. I don't know. So scalar is the type of energy you work with, but is there a way of explaining it to me?Tom Paladino 4:02  Let's define our terms. Scalar. Energy is nonphysical divine energy. I believe it's from God. It's not a movement of electrons. Electricity is some type of movement of electrons. So we're working with consciousness. We're working with what some people might call intuition or intention. We're working with nonphysical thought. So the instrument behind me is a scalar energy instrument that taps into that dimension of nonphysicality. It's indeed a different dimension. This is the dimension beyond the space time construct. This is the energy that some people might call the ohm, or Christ-consciousness or chi or prana. It's very real.Lesley Logan 4:46  Okay, yes, I love that you brought up intuition and intention. I feel like those are, you know, less woo. But I guess we need to go back and how did you even discover that this energy exists? And how did you figure it out? Because I feel like there's a good story there, and also maybe can help us understand just how real this is. You know?Tom Paladino 5:06  I studied Nikola Tesla as a youngster, and Tesla, later in his life, was working with this energy, what he called radiant energy. Tesla said frequently he wanted to harness the sun, not harness a motor, harness sun, and that's what I'm doing. These instruments harness the energy from the sun. So Tesla was my first teacher. Thereafter, I was very fortunate to meet an American inventor, Sarah Hieronymus, and I never met her late husband, Galen Hieronymus, but they were scalar energy inventors who had scalar energy instruments who could prove that they could control this energy of the sun. So that was my understudy, and if you will, this is not taught by academia. This is so groundbreaking, so cutting edge, you're not going to find a college textbook on this. So that was my, if you will, my backstory. That was my background. I have been pursuing this independent research my entire life. It's been well worth it, because the, if you will, the payback, the dividends are so incredible to be realized from this energy. We'll explore some of those benefits today. Lesley Logan 5:06  Yeah. Okay, so thank you for that. How long have you been doing this? Because you said that was your first teacher. So how many years has this been and then what are the benefits you saw in doing it?Tom Paladino 6:23  I've been at this for 50 years, my entire life. The benefits that I've derived is I have been (inaudible) exceptional health. I am 64 years of age, and I don't take any medicine. There is I don't take any pharmaceutical problem. I do not need any medical surgery. And part of that reason is because I'm working with myself every day with this energy. This energy is my healthcare regimen. We'll get into that. How have I benefited? This instrument, if you will, prevents many diseases. This instrument, I believe, has given me a great nutritional background, a great nutritional support by way of energy, I receive my vitamins from this instrument by way of energy. This instrument allows me to target the force field of microbes, germs, and eradicate those microbes, those germs. So those just are some of the benefits that can be derived from this, what I call quantum healing. It's not physical. We'll get into that. This is all informational. Remember, all of my work is nonphysical.Lesley Logan 7:31  Right. So some of this, like, I can totally grasp, because I was just listening to Mindy Pelz, who's a scientist on fasting, and she was talking about inflammation, and what are the top reasons we have inflammation. And one of the things that she said was negative people. She said negative people cause inflammation, chronic inflammation in your body. So I was like going with that thought, this makes sense. How you protect the energy around you can definitely protect you from illnesses, diseases, things like that, and also needing surgeries or needing nutrition, because if you can protect the negative energy, if you can put a force build-up, or if you can just keep yourself around, not so negative, draining people, like, that can be helpful. So you've been doing this for 50 years. You don't look 64 so if you're not watching on YouTube, guys, you could check that out. When did you start? I guess like you've been doing this for 50 years. I'm sure you've come across people who are total doubters, and I'm sure there are people who are intrigued and they're going to keep listening. But what about the people who are like, I don't know, guys. How do people who maybe are skeptical or doubtful, how can we make them understand what you're doing in a way that doesn't make them feel like it's a double woo?Tom Paladino 8:39  I work with scientific instruments. Those instruments follow the laws of science. There cannot be any complicity with the laws of science. The laws of science are immutable. This is a scalar light instrument behind me. To demonstrate, it's pulsing right now. This instrument gives off so much power, to demonstrate, I can illuminate a light bulb in my hand, the scaler (inaudible).Lesley Logan 9:05  Oh, wow. You guys, if you're, those who are listening, he just lit, like, the light bulb's not in he's just holding it.Tom Paladino 9:09  So, that's evidence that this instrument is broadcasting some type of energy. We're in a different energy spectrum, a scalar energy spectrum, that, if you will, proves that free energy can light up a light bulb. Now, if I can light up a light bulb, then I can light up a person's aura, their force field. And that's what I'm doing. I don't want to light up a person's light bulb. I want to light up a person's aura, their energy field. That's what this instrument can achieve. Again, it's not flesh and blood. We're not working with people. We're working with the aura or the energy field of a person. Lesley Logan 9:46  Yeah, I, okay. That makes a lot of sense to me. And also, in taking myself back to when I was a little girl on a school bus, you and your friends would have your palms up, and they'd have their palms over, and you could, like, kind of, do you know what I mean? You can, kind of, like, get your hands closed and you're like, oh, I feel your aura. Like.Tom Paladino 10:00  That's it. That's it.Lesley Logan 10:01  Okay, okay, perfect. So I felt that. I understand that. So you're doing research, you're in science, you're seeing the benefits in yourself. How did you start to even understand that you could help other people? Is it because of the apprentice scene? How did it come about?Tom Paladino 10:14  Yeah, very good. Well, my apprenticeship with the Hieronymus family was just incredible. They taught me scalar energy. Again, keep in mind there might be five scalar energy engineers in the world who've ever developed instruments like this that can produce human quantum improvement health benefits. Okay, so going back to 1993, I met this family, the Hieronymus family, and they brought me into their laboratory, and they showed me what they were doing. I was awestruck. It works. Well, my predecessor, Hieronymus, was so famous at one time he was working with NASA and the FDA and other government agencies because they saw the merit of his work. Why? He was a scientist and he follows the laws of science. So there's no woo-woo here, because the laws of science cannot be changed. You cannot in any way interrupt the laws of science. That's why we have scientific instruments. That's the key to our work. So we can duplicate our work. Lesley Logan 11:18  Do we, so in order for us to benefit from scalar light work, scalar energy work, do we have to have these tools, or do we have to work with someone who's trained? And there's like five of you.Tom Paladino 11:30  That's, that's the sad part about it and I don't know why there's only a few scalar light scientists with scalar light instruments like myself. I am trying to promulgate this science. I'm an open book. I don't want this to be arcane, but sadly, very few people have followed up, as I have. It takes a lot of work. I don't blame people. And there's no paycheck in the present moment. There's no remuneration. So to answer your question, yeah, there's about five of us on the planet right now that I know of that have scalar light instruments.Lesley Logan 12:02  Okay. And so I think where I'm now really intrigued is because this is Be It Till You See It. How have you been able to continue to show up every day with this belief of something where there's only five of you with instruments, you know, that's gotta feel like people listening, gotta be like this. Gotta be an uphill battle to show up every, you know what I mean? How have you been able to be it till you see it to show up with this? Because I think so many people would just almost give up. You know? It's hard.Tom Paladino 12:29  I'm not a quitter. I don't give up. I see the merit and the people who've been with me for years, and we have many followers, they understand and they feel better. That's the key. Now, to be very clear, this cannot be proven by present-day academia, by science. Nobody's duplicated my instrument. Nobody's duplicated my work. My instrument is unique. That's why I'm saying there's probably only five people like myself that have my type of instrument, and most of them have followed in the footsteps of my predecessor, Galen Hieronymus. So it's a very narrow field, I admit to that, but I have confidence that this will catch on someday. I have confidence that someday people will see the merit. I have confidence that this will gain a mass audience someday. That day is coming. Lesley Logan 13:17  Yes, so is there like pep talks that you give yourself? You know what I mean? Because here's the deal, I'm a Pilates instructor, which people know the word Pilates, and then also, in the world, there's a bunch of different variations. The way I teach, there's only so many of us who have actually been trained in the way that I teach, and it's by Joseph Pilates. So I totally follow the idea of understanding like, when you're with the source and you're the closest, and there's only a few of you, sometimes I can feel like, oh my gosh, everyone keeps saying, I do reformer Pilates. I'm like, there's no such thing, that's just Pilates on a reformer. I can find myself wanting to, like, hit my head against the wall. What do you tell yourself each day to keep going, to make this something that you're so passionate about, to continue the passion because the middle is so hard.Tom Paladino 13:56  You're right, and to put this into a common day experience, it's the reason why people get up and go to school and work a job and have a marriage or have kids or have goals, etc. You believe in yourself. I believe in myself. If this was not rendering great results, I'd say well, I made a mistake. I have to do something else. No, it's rendering wonderful results. I believe in myself. Our subscribers believe in us. But we haven't hit that point, that tipping point, where it's mainstream. When will it become mainstream? I don't know. Only God knows. That's a great point. You have to believe in yourself. And I'm sure your audience, they've come up, they've had this, if you will, this crossroads in their life, in which it depends, but what crossroad you want to take? I believe in myself. So I'm going to teach you to do this until the day I die.Lesley Logan 14:50  So then did your parents just phrase you to believe in yourself? Has it always been easy? What would you tell someone who doesn't? Like people who (inaudible) out so much that they can't believe that they were given a gift. You have this gift and you believe you have this gift. And I that's what I think is so cool about you. It's so rare that someone just like totally believes even when they're coming, they've seen the results, they have the research, they've done all this stuff, but it hasn't hit that tipping point yet, right? Like whatever Seth Godin says, I think it's called the tipping point. There are people who are listening where their self-doubt is so, is stronger than anything that they, because that's how they've always lived. And I guess I'm just curious how you believe in yourself so well. Tom Paladino 15:32  Believe in God, believe in yourself. Have goals, have objectives. I believe in God. I believe in myself. Don't listen to the negativity of the role. I've had some snide comments. I don't lose sleep over them. I don't listen to them. It's a waste of time, people. If you follow your purpose in life, that's it. Remove all of those extraneous noise. It doesn't matter.Lesley Logan 15:57  Yeah, yeah. I think that's the voices that you've made up in your head or the ones that are on repeat from a family member you don't even talk to, or it's being distracted by the other people who are trying to put their stuff on you. That's such a good thing. Okay, so let's get into more of this together. Like, how can people, how do people know they need it?Tom Paladino 16:16  Okay, everybody needs it, whether everybody realizes that or not. Why? It improves your force field regardless. Energy from the sun, this divine energy, will always enhance the human condition. Now I have no medical problems. I'm 64 years of age. I'm not on one pharmaceutical product. I still treat myself every day. What am I getting at? This is nonphysical. Hence it's nonchemical. Listen carefully to what I'm about to say. I don't work with people, which would be a physical treatment. I don't work with the biochemical person. I work with people through their photograph. This is my photograph. If somebody sends me a photograph, I simply print it out on the piece of paper and I placed the photograph inside the instrument. Now, what's the point? That photograph, my photograph now, is experiencing a scaler energy force field. I feel that. If I can light up a light bulb, then I can light up my chakras on that photograph. That's what's happening right now. I know I'm rather sensitive, and I could feel that, that energy now tingling in my brain, in my mind. I can feel that, if you will, as I'm treating myself through my photographic force field. This is a new science. Has nothing to do with Newtonian science. This is a new science, quantum science, in which we access a person's aura, their force field, through their photograph. It's a new way of wellness in which there's no physical downside, there's no chemical reaction. It's information and people do not come to my lab. They send their photographic double. That's right.Lesley Logan 18:00  That's kind of, I mean, that's kind of nice, right? Tom Paladino 18:02  Thank you. I can be in two places at once through a scanner and G-force field, in which I never work with people. The instruments are not designed to work with people. Their instruments are designed to work with a force field, which is their Bilocated version. Lesley Logan 18:16  Yeah. This is, okay, so of course, there's a part of me going, oh, my God, can someone do voodoo on my photo? I'm not you, but like.Tom Paladino 18:25  You know, that's a good point. Now, that gives credence to the point that some people in the occult claim that they could take a photograph put a hex on the photograph. Now, that's not my line, I think. But is there a connection to a photograph to a person's force field? Yes, that, my photograph carries my soul, mind and body. My blood type is on that photograph, my eye color is on that photograph, my background, my genetic background, is on that photograph, a photograph light energy carries our makeup, my makeup as a human being is on that photograph. Lesley Logan 19:02  Okay, as someone whose photograph is taken all the time, this is a very (inaudible) to me. Okay, so the, the next thing is, what's really nice about this is it's not another appointment I have to make, which is great. For the busy person listening, you can go be it till you see it without having to make an appointment. But I guess then, my next question is, like, do you need to know why I want the scalar light energy work? Or your don't even need to know what the things are. Do you have to know like, oh, I think I have the flu. Or is it just like, we put it in there and your machines do the work without needing to know what they're working on?Tom Paladino 19:34  On balance, the instrument does the work without any diagnosis. Now that's a good point. I do not diagnose. This is not a medical device. I don't want to claim that I'm diagnosing that's for the medical field, which is wonderful. Remember, I work with the aura, a force field. There's no hospital in the world that works with your scalar energy aura. So what's the point? You simply send me, email me your photograph. Here's a collage. Every day, I'll print out a collage, thousands of photographs, and I place them inside the instrument, and the instrument will ascertain what health challenges you have and start negating those health challenges. In other words, disease appears as a signature, as a some type of code, a scalar energy instrument, can find a disease signature and eliminate the code. Eliminate the signature. It's much like turning on a light bulb and having light and turning off a light bulb and you have no illumination. What's the point? If disease is some type of skin energy signature. I turn off the signature of scalarlight. I negate the scalar light signature of disease.Lesley Logan 20:48  How do you prioritize yourself in all of this? Because I can tell you care so much about what you do, and I have a lot of women who listen, who are so passionate about the things that they do that they actually don't take care of themselves anymore. You clearly do because you have no issues or diseases or lack of energy. We can tell that. So how are you prioritizing yourself in trying to make your goals happen?Tom Paladino 21:10  Every day, I start the day with prayer. I've got a great wife. She mandates that I have a super diet, that I have a logical diet. We don't overeat. I exercise frequently. I pray frequently. I am happy. I'd rather be gregarious than negative. So that is part of my lifestyle. The guy you see on this TV on the video screen is 64 years of age, without any complications, and I never has been on one medication ever in my life. Why? Well, it's because of my lifestyle. It's because of scaler.Lesley Logan 21:43  So if I were to send in my photo, would I know when you were working on it? Would I just feel different? How would I know that this works?Tom Paladino 21:51  That's a good point. People will send me their photograph, and they'll say, Tom, can you help? I have, I have Epstein–Barr. Now again, it's always by way of a photograph. So I'll take a person's photograph, and with this technique that I've developed, I'm able to take a magnified photograph of Epstein-Barr and have the two photographs communicate. I'm holding in my hand a photograph of Epstein–Barr. And what's the point? These two force fields communicate. And after they communicate, if I have in my aura, in my photographic force field, Epstein–Barr, the instrument will negate the force field of Epstein–Barr, will eradicate, remove, disassemble, Epstein-Barr. Now, after I do that, people tell me they no longer have symptoms of Epstein–Barr or some people will have a PCR test. Here's one test in particular. After I work with this person, their PCR test is not detected, no viral load, so I have to rely upon people. But our testimonies are stupendous. People from around the world tell me that they feel better. Now, I don't know anybody who who can show a track record, as I have, with thousands of people around the world, different lifestyles, different backgrounds, but essentially, all of them feel better, and I've never met them. How is that possible? It's not human ingenuity. There's no human diagnosis. It's simply the energy correcting the disease signature. You see the chemical level, the disease already manifests. Why not go to the signal, to the signature, before the disease manifests? It's so much easier at the level of cause than working at the level of effect. Which the biological level.Lesley Logan 23:38  Yeah, I understand that, because sometimes we take medications that help with just the symptom, but don't actually get to the root of the problem. You know, like yesterday, I was sneezing and I was on a call, and I was like, oh my god, I can't stop sneezing. So I took this allergy spray that I and I was like, okay, now I'm not sneezing, but it doesn't solve the problem of the sneeze in the first place. What is in my office that is causing me to sneeze. So if that, correct me, if I'm wrong, but that's what you're saying. What you're trying to do is like before you're trying to take care at the aura level, at the top level, versus all the way down, just like at the symptoms of the problem.Tom Paladino 24:14  Yes, thank you. The sneeze is the manifestation. The runny nose is the manifestation. What if we can tell this instrument to look for the energy field of a virus, the influenza virus, and negate it, remove it. That makes much more sense than worrying about the symptoms. I don't work at the symptom level of symptoms. I work at the causal level.Lesley Logan 24:36  Yeah. So, okay, so it's really cool. This is just, I'm just, observations. I think it's fascinating. A lot of times when I hear some unique ways of healing, they're kind of anti-science or anti-medical, but you are taking the medical diagnosis that someone gets from someone else, and you're using that on a different level. And I think that's really (inaudible) because, oviously, Western medicine has its perks. Sometimes, like something's wrong, you need the diagnosis. So this is really fascinating. What if I don't have a diagnosis yet? What if I just don't feel good and no ones's able to figure it out? Can the scalar light stuff help?Tom Paladino 25:16  Yes, it can. I'll give you a for instance, for the past five months, I've rolled out a new program I've worked with over 100 people who had cancer, 100 people, and most of those people after the past four or five months are in remission. Now I don't claim to be a cancer specialist. What I claim is that this instrument can pick out the force field of cancer in a tumor, and negate it, shut off the tumor, shut off the cancer, negate the signature cancer or tumor. That's my claim.Lesley Logan 25:49  Is it your hope that people would use this before they need it? Or is it, once they have the diagnosis, do they still go to the doctor while you're working with their aura? What's your favorite combination?Tom Paladino 26:01  Yeah, that's a proper term. I'm working with their aura, their force field, and it is preventative. Now, keep in mind, I get a yearly checkup. Doctor says you're fine. I have not one medical issue. Now, why? My wife has not one medical issue? What's the point here? We're not on any meds, because we take care of ourselves, but we're on scalar, which is preventative. I'll make this bold statement, as long as this instrument is working, functioning properly, I declare I'll never develop cancer in my life. That's my declaration, because I can identify a cancer signature and negate it. So it's in my case. I'll speak for my, it's my testimony. It's my body. It's preventative. I have 3000, 4000 testimonies on our website that speak of other people's testimony. To be clear, this cannot be reproduced. Nobody's ever reproduced by work. This instrument, my laboratory, is unique, and until somebody reproduces my work, then I I have to rely upon testimonies.Lesley Logan 27:04  Yeah. And also it's like, partly, if someone did, was able to reproduce it, then people would, I feel like it might be able to hit that tipping point, you know, sooner. But also, it's so hard if they haven't trained the way that you trained. What are you most excited about right now, and what are you hoping that people take away from this?Tom Paladino 27:23  I'm excited about life. I'm excited anytime we can improve our well-being, we do so. By the way, every day I have one or two goals, research goals, and I usually meet those. If I can do it, you can do it. If I have goals, you can do it. If I can introduce something that's new and different to mankind, everybody can do that, or at least everybody can participate. Why not improve our human condition? That's what I'm trying to do. In order to make an improvement, we have to change. If things aren't working out, we have to change. That's what I (inaudible). This is a change for the better.Lesley Logan 27:57  I really like your enthusiasm for life, and I think, also, everyone listening, those are some just really great ways to go about everything you're doing. Let's just be excited about it. This is fascinating. If you guys haven't been watching this on our YouTube channel, it's worth going back, because he has been showing different things, like not every YouTube interview is, got visuals. So this is one of those ones want to get back to. We're going to take a brief break and then find out how people can find you, follow you, work with you, and your Be It Action Items.Lesley Logan 28:23  All right, Tom, if somebody wants to have you work with them, where should they go? How can they follow you? How can they get more information if they're curious?Tom Paladino 28:32  I'm all about performance. So the first thing you're going to do, go to the website, scalarlight.com, S-C-A-L-E-R and you'll visit that website, and you're allowed to submit, email your photograph, we'll work with you and your family for free. We'll treat your photograph for 15 days. I do that because I want to prove to you that this works. I want to prove that you're going to feel better after 15 days of (inaudible). So the website, scalarlight.com. Now, moving forward, I'd like to prove this to the world. I'll treat the world for free. If I have 8 billion people can sign up for the free session. What's the point here? To improve the world condition. That's why I've done this. This is why for 50 years I've been out on this path of discovery. I'm a humanitarian. I want to improve your lifestyle, my lifestyle. So, participate. Help me with this.Lesley Logan 29:26  So, okay, hold on. I have one more question, can you work with a photograph that is not sent to you? Or do you, do you know what I mean? Could you, in theory, take photographs of people that are just like out of a yearbook or no?Tom Paladino 29:39   You can. You can. Any photograph is a source of light. My photograph is my fingerprint, so to speak, and my life is embedded upon that photograph. Yeah. So yes, you could walk into a football state. I mean, you could take photographs of 60, 70,000 people in a football stadium. Yes. Now, fast forward this, in my laboratory today, I've been working with half a million photographs. Over the years, people sent me their photographs. Today, I work with half a million photographs. Lesley Logan 30:08  Wow, wow. Okay, well, that's, I mean, how, so someone like you could send your friend's photograph in you're really worried about them.Tom Paladino 30:19  It's a permission. We ask people to (inaudible).Lesley Logan 30:22  Get permission. I appreciate that. Okay, so get their permission. Don't just send people's auras in. Okay, all right. This has been really fascinating. You've given us so much of like self-talk and also amazing information about what it is that you do. Before we let you go, bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it, what do you have for us?Tom Paladino 30:44  Just be happy in life. And if you want to change your life, then just make steps, gradual steps. Every day I have goals. Imagine if you had one goal a day and you're only working Monday through Friday. Well, that means, out of 220 days out of a year that you're working, you're going to make 220 improvements in your business, in your home life, family life, in your social life. What if you make just one improvement a day? You'd only do that Monday through Friday. That's 200-some improvements a year. Imagine what the world would be if everybody could have one improvement, one benefit per day. That's 8 billion people experiencing benefits every day. That's what the world is missing. We have to stop fighting. Improve the world condition. Be happy. Stop fighting. Let's make progress.Lesley Logan 31:38  Yes. Did you hear that? You guys? One goal a day, just one. I think the problem is some people have 17, and that is why we don't get to move forward. So I love this. Tom, you're doing really cool things, and they're really interesting and really fascinating, and I'm excited to see what you do. I do believe your passion is going to take you everywhere you want to go. And I also believe that when people are trying to do good things in this world, they can't, like, it has to work out. It has to be seen. So thank you for doing the efforts that you do, and for taking care of people and yourself, because that's how this planet becomes a more and more amazing place. Lesley Logan 32:12  You all, how are you going to use these tips in your life? Make sure you check out Tom. Tom, are you on the socials?Tom Paladino 32:18  Yes. On my homepage at the bottom, you'll see my social units. Lesley Logan 32:22  Okay, so you can tag him. We'll put it in the show notes. Tag the Be It Pod, share it, tell it. Let us know how you're gonna use these tips. And also, if you send your photo in, keep us posted on how it goes and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 32:36  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 33:19  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 33:24  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 33:28  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 33:35  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 33:39  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

3rd. Session - Friday Evening -  Movie Workshop - Barcelona Retreat with David HoffmeisterIn this movie workshop on forgiveness, Jesus aims to help us understand that time is a reflection of our consciousness, not a linear sequence. The linear perspective often used to perceive grievances spreads them out over time. These grievances represent the ego, and the sleeping mind is addicted to linear time. Newtonian physics, studied by Sir Isaac Newton through the scientific method, deals with linear time. However, quantum physicists like Einstein realized that time is not linear but relative.Jesus teaches that everything we perceive through our five senses is the past; all perceived experiences are part of a dream. The field of forgiveness, as described by quantum physicists, is a realm where everything exists simultaneously. Time is an illusion, breaking reality into parts like time and space. This egoic concept has turned this field into a line, making us believe it is real. Karma, the belief that past pain and suffering can be repeated, is another aspect of this illusion. However, quantum physics teaches us that time is simultaneous, and it should be as easy to return to the past as moving into the future. This concept is mind-blowing for the human being.If you want to know more about David Hoffmeister and the Living Miracles events, here is more information: https://www.the-christ.net/eventsRecorded, Evening November 1, Barcelona, Spain.

Join Nick Clason and special guest, Josh Boldman, "The Best Programming Specialist" in America, on the Hybrid Ministry Podcast as they dive into "The Student Ministry Debate: In-Person vs Digital." Explore fresh youth ministry ideas and strategies for balancing hybrid ministry to effectively engage students in both student ministry settings.

Send us a textFor the past few centuries, we have philosophically operated under Newtonian physics where questions of experience and of the soul were seen as subjective, with no connection to the numerical certainty of science. However, then came quantum physics.In his new book, Light of the Mind, Light of the World: Illuminating Science Through Faith, classicist Dr. Spencer Klavan retells the history of science and highlights the philosophical implications of each era. He argues that quantum mechanics, with its exploration of uncertainty and consciousness, has not only returned physics to the question of the soul. But, also, has provided an incredible argument for the Genesis account of creation.You may recognize Dr. Klavan from his appearance in episode 104 - Modern Problems, Ancient Solutions - Applying the Wisdom of the Classics to the Cultural Conflicts of TodayTopics:The purpose of this bookMusic of the Spheres & the Medieval View of the world - the World as Beauty + OrderPhilosophical implications of "ghost in the machine" philosophyAI and the mechanical view of the universeGenesis, Consciousness, and Quantum MechanicsWorldviews and ScienceA clash of cultures: Scientism and Skepticism in AmericaConfusing spiritual truths and scientific truths"What books have had an impact on you?""What advice do you have for teenagers?"Bio:Dr. Spencer Klavan is an associate editor at the Claremont Review of Books and a podcaster on the great works of the West. Dr. Klavan is a scholar, writer, and podcast host of Young Heretics, with a lifelong devotion to the great works and principles of the West. After studying Greek and Latin at Yale University as an undergrad, he spent five years at Oxford University completing his doctorate in ancient Greek literature. Check out his latest book, Light of the Mind, Light of the World: Illuminating Science Through Faith.Resources mentioned:Light of the Mind, Light of the World: Illuminating Science Through FaithBooks of impact:In high school: BibleDuring grad school: Owen Barfield's Poetic Diction and Saving AppearancesSince his last appearance: Thomas Traherne's Centuries of MeditationsSocials -Lessons from Interesting People substack: https://taylorbledsoe.substack.com/Website: https://www.aimingforthemoon.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aiming4moon/Twitter: https://twitter.com/Aiming4MoonFacebook:

Welcome to another episode of Category Visionaries — the show that explores GTM stories from tech's most innovative B2B founders. In today's episode, we're speaking with Matthew Kinsella, CEO of Infleqtion, a quantum technology company that's raised over $150 Million in funding. Here are the most interesting points from our conversation: Quantum technology's roots at CU Boulder: Infleqtion's journey started with foundational research from Nobel Prize-winning physicists at CU Boulder. They developed ways to control atoms using lasers, which unlocked the ability to isolate and exploit quantum properties for next-gen tech applications. The unexpected career shift: Matthew spent nearly two decades as an investor, never planning to run a company. His deep dive into quantum technology in 2017 led him to invest in Infleqtion, and ultimately to step in as CEO, driven by the technology's potential to be transformative for humanity and national security. Explaining quantum to grandma: When simplifying quantum technology, Matthew compares it to Newtonian physics but highlights that quantum operates with its own set of bizarre rules, where everything is governed by probabilities, and phenomena like superposition and entanglement defy everyday logic. Commercializing quantum tech: Infleqtion is already selling products like their quantum optical clock, which keeps time 1,000 times more accurately than anything currently available. This tech has wide-reaching implications, from improving GPS accuracy to enabling future quantum computers. The race to quantum supremacy: Quantum computing is still a few years away from reaching "quantum advantage," but Matthew believes that within five years, we'll see quantum computers outperform classical computers in specific tasks. Meanwhile, quantum sensors and clocks are already delivering commercial value today. Navigating government contracts: Matthew shares that breaking into government procurement is complex and involves building relationships through programs like SBIR grants. Success in this space can be transformative, with multi-year contracts that provide a consistent revenue stream.   //   Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe.  www.GlobalTalent.co    

Today is a short and sweet episode (like me!) on how to get into the flow of life and using the Newtonian law of motion to get things going and stay flowing with less effort and more things going; as well as how to get “unstuck” to be in touch with your innate connectedness with so much less resistance. Really not letting anything get you down, whether doubts, distractions, giving away your power, or chasing something that isn't a lifetime constant reality but meant to be a moment of divine ecstasy – living life as it comes and feeling yourself here in the flow of life it is something that will help you feel so much more expanded and less scattered than ever. Ready to learn more about your spirituality and deepen your intuition? Reach out by email and we can chat about a custom session for you: info@quantumhighways.com Reference Episode #68 Divine Oneness: https://spotifyanchor-web.app.link/e/qdYUv0HNlNb --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/kelly-ann-pierce/support

Interview begins: 5:03 In this episode of The Sacred Speaks, we explore the profound spiritual and social dimensions of gender with Rev. Cynthia Brix and Dr. Will Keepin, pioneers in the field of gender reconciliation and equity. Cynthia, an interfaith minister and wellness expert, and Will, a former quantum physicist turned healer and spiritual seeker, share their journeys and the transformative power of their work. Cynthia discusses her path from atheism to a dynamic spirituality grounded in activism and human relationships. She reflects on how her experiences and education led her to focus on bridging divides through dialogue and connection. Will, drawing from his background in quantum physics and mysticism, discusses the distinction between Newtonian and quantum physics, landing on what he refers to as an "epistemology of the heart," a way of knowing that transcends reason and embraces the interconnectedness of the universe. Will notes that his crisis of science was related to the conclusions of many radical scientists who determined that there is a deeper register to reality that is not subject to our scientific instruments, highlighting some of the limitations of our modern sciences. We discussed both of their understanding of spirituality, defining the concept and exploring how practice transforms our lived experience. Together, they explore duality and nonduality, the integration of spiritual wisdom with social engagement, emphasizing the healing potential of personal storytelling in their workshops. Cynthia and Will envision a future where a new civilization, built on reverence and understanding, can emerge through this powerful work. Bio: Dr. William Keepin and Rev. Cynthia Brix are co-founders of Gender Equity and Reconciliation International, an organization that has led 280 intensive trainings across twelve countries to foster healing and reconciliation among people of all genders. Cynthia, an ordained interfaith minister and Co-Director of the Satyana Institute, brings a diverse background in spiritual leadership and social justice. She holds an M.Div. from Iliff School of Theology and a double M.A. in wellness management and applied gerontology. Cynthia has led interfaith retreats and organized international conferences on spirituality and gender equity, including one that brought together women spiritual leaders from Buddhist, Christian, and Hindu traditions. Together, they have developed a transformative method for gender reconciliation, emphasizing compassion, deep listening, and mutual respect. Will, a former mathematical physicist with a PhD in applied mathematics, is also a scholar in sustainable energy, global warming, and the intersection of science and spirituality. He has testified before European and Australian parliaments and the U.S. House of Representatives and is a co-founder of the Satyana Institute. A seasoned spiritual practitioner, Will holds multiple degrees in East-West psychology and mathematical physics, and is the author of several books, including Divine Duality and Belonging to God. https://www.genderreconciliationinternational.org/ Link to Houston workshop: https://www.thecenterforhas.com/event/the-alchemy-of-reconciliation-a-workshop-for-women-men-healing-across-genders/ Website for The Sacred Speaks: http://www.thesacredspeaks.com WATCH: YouTube for The Sacred Speaks https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOAuksnpfht1udHWUVEO7Rg Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesacredspeaks/ @thesacredspeaks Twitter: https://twitter.com/thesacredspeaks Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thesacredspeaks/ Brought to you by: https://www.thecenterforhas.com Theme music provided by: http://www.modernnationsmusic.com

Welcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: Proveably Safe Self Driving Cars, published by Davidmanheim on September 15, 2024 on LessWrong. I've seen a fair amount of skepticism about the "Provably Safe AI" paradigm, but I think detractors give it too little credit. I suspect this is largely because of idea inoculation - people have heard an undeveloped or weak man version of the idea, for example, that we can use formal methods to state our goals and prove that an AI will do that, and have already dismissed it. (Not to pick on him at all, but see my question for Scott Aaronson here.) I will not argue that Guaranteed Safe AI solves AI safety generally, or that it could do so - I will leave that to others. Instead, I want to provide a concrete example of a near-term application, to respond to critics who say that proveability isn't useful because it can't be feasibly used in real world cases when it involves the physical world, and when it is embedded within messy human systems. I am making far narrower claims than the general ones which have been debated, but at the very least I think it is useful to establish whether this is actually a point of disagreement. And finally, I will admit that the problem I'm describing would be adding proveability to a largely solved problem, but it provides a concrete example for where the approach is viable. A path to provably safe autonomous vehicles To start, even critics agree that formal verification is possible, and is already used in practice in certain places. And given (formally specified) threat models in different narrow domains, there are ways to do threat and risk modeling and get different types of guarantees. For example, we already have proveably verifiable code for things like microkernels, and that means we can prove that buffer overflows, arithmetic exceptions, and deadlocks are impossible, and have hard guarantees for worst case execution time. This is a basis for further applications - we want to start at the bottom and build on provably secure systems, and get additional guarantees beyond that point. If we plan to make autonomous cars that are provably safe, we would build starting from that type of kernel, and then we "only" have all of the other safety issues to address. Secondly, everyone seems to agree that provable safety in physical systems requires a model of the world, and given the limits of physics, the limits of our models, and so on, any such approach can only provide approximate guarantees, and proofs would be conditional on those models. For example, we aren't going to formally verify that Newtonian physics is correct, we're instead formally verifying that if Newtonian physics is correct, the car will not crash in some situation. Proven Input Reliability Given that, can we guarantee that a car has some low probability of crashing? Again, we need to build from the bottom up. We can show that sensors have some specific failure rate, and use that to show a low probability of not identifying other cars, or humans - not in the direct formal verification sense, but instead with the types of guarantees typically used for hardware, with known failure rates, built in error detection, and redundancy. I'm not going to talk about how to do that class of risk analysis, but (modulus adversarial attacks, which I'll mention later,) estimating engineering reliability is a solved problem - if we don't have other problems to deal with. But we do, because cars are complex and interact with the wider world - so the trick will be integrating those risk analysis guarantees that we can prove into larger systems, and finding ways to build broader guarantees on top of them. But for the engineering reliability, we don't only have engineering proof. Work like DARPA's VerifAI is "applying formal methods to perception and ML components." Building guarantees about perceptio...

Award-winning film director and producer Caroline Cory  @OMniumUniverse beams in to talk about ESP, UFO phenomena, and making movies that capture unexplained alien activity and extraterrestrial portals on episode 168 of the Far Out with Faust podcast.Caroline Cory is an award-winning filmmaker, executive producer and founder of Omnium Media. As a child and throughout her life, Cory has had numerous E.S.P (extra-sensory) and pre-cognition experiences, which led her to become deeply connected to existential topics, the study of consciousness and the mechanics of the universe. In 2010, Cory founded Omnium Media, an entertainment and media platform, which tackles thought provoking topics on the human condition and the nature of reality. In addition to writing and producing, Cory continues to lecture and coach internationally on various mind over matter subjects and appears regularly as a guest expert on supernatural phenomena at major conferences and television shows such as A&E's popular series The UnXplained with William Shatner and History Channel's Ancient Aliens.In this episode, Cory shares her childhood experiences with supernatural phenomena and how it led her to pursue energy and consciousness studies. She discusses the importance of meditation and expanding our perception beyond the five senses. Cory also talks about the creation of Omnium Media, an entertainment media platform that explores thought-provoking topics on the human condition and the nature of reality. She highlights the incredible process of making her films, including 'Superhuman' and 'A Tear in the Sky,' which document the science behind abilities like ESP and UFO sightings. In this conversation, Faust and Caroline discuss topics including:•How childhood experiences with supernatural phenomena can lead to a deeper connection to spirituality and the study of consciousness•How meditation is a powerful tool for expanding perception and accessing information beyond the five senses•The numerous UFO sightings and strange objects that have been captured on film, including objects that appeared and disappeared in the sky and a portal-like phenomenon•The limitations of human knowledge, and how we need to be open to new possibilities and expand our understanding of the universe•How intention and focused attention have the power to affect DNA and physical objects•The need to move beyond the limitations of Newtonian and Einsteinian physics and explore new possibilities….and so much more!

Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell recap their favorite takeaways from the interview with renowned author, psychologist, and dream guest Gay Hendricks. Discover insights on self-sabotage, transforming your perception of time, and the power of wonder and creativity. Tune in to learn how to apply these transformative insights and start overcoming your limitations.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How previous guests' Be It Action Items changed Lesley and Brad's daily routines.Lesley's persistence to secure Gay Hendricks as guest for the podcast.Gay Hendricks' insights on identifying and overcoming self-sabotage.The concept of Newtonian vs. Einstein Time and how it affects your day.How to manipulate time perception to achieve better results.Key questions to ignite your wonder to unlock your genius zone.How to commit to daily creativity and help you manifest your true potential.Episode References/Links:OPC Summer ToureLevate Mentorship Program for 2025Cambodia February 2025 RetreatOPC $40 for 40 DaysStudio Growth Accelerator for Profitable PilatesHendricks InstituteThe Big Leap by Gay HendricksDr. Mindy Pelz FastingJohanna White Episode 171Dai Manuel's Episode 185Phil Barth Episode 187Nikole Mitchell Episode 319Kel Cal's Episode 382  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey Be a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  He just looks at life with just so much curiosity and joy and excitement. He clearly lives in such a present place. I don't think the man is stressed out. I want to move to Ojai and do his routine. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to talk about the dream convo I had with Gay Hendricks, oh my god, in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one, you are missing the fuck out. You are missing out. Brad Crowell 1:07  It's a great convo.Lesley Logan 1:09  Isn't that wonderful? Don't you just want to be friends with him? Brad Crowell 1:12  Okay, so if you don't know who Gay Hendricks is. He is a renowned author and psychotherapist. And he blew my mind when he said yeah, so I've written 51 books in the last 50 years. I was like what? That's insane. Fascinating, fascinating human. Sounds like the coolest guy. Lesley Logan 1:36  So cool. He loves his wife. Did you? You didn't watch it, did you? Brad Crowell 1:40  I did. Lesley Logan 1:41  You watched it? Did you see him tear up? He's like, she was gone for three days and just came back. I was like, my husband doesn't tear up when I return.Brad Crowell 1:50  What? What husband? Lesley Logan 1:51  Ah. Anyways, we're gonna get into that convo because I loved it so much. I am just, I can't even believe, I can't believe it happened. So today is August 1st 2024 and it's the beginning of National Wellness Month. About this month. In August, we celebrate National Wellness Month. Prioritizing your self-care managing stress and promoting healthy routines. Create wholesome habits in your lifestyle and focus on self-care to feel like your best self. We can often put our health and wellness on the backburner due to work deadlines, traffic, family obligations and other stressors. Research has shown self-care helps manage stress and promotes happiness. For a happy and healthy life, it's important to focus on wellness and self-care. National Wellness Month was born out of the idea that if we're going to do big things in the world—build our careers, raise a family further education, create new ideas and nurture our bodies—we must take care of ourselves. Brad Crowell 2:38  Got to do it. Lesley Logan 2:39  Hey, Brad, how do you take care of yourself?Brad Crowell 2:43  I eat well and I sleep occasionally. Lesley Logan 2:49  No, you sleep more than occasionally it's gotten a lot better. You used to like do a lot of all-nighters at least one a week and you don't do that anymore.Brad Crowell 2:55  Yeah, it's true. I don't do that anymore. Lesley Logan 2:57  Yet you also work out. Brad Crowell 2:59  Oh, yeah, I do that. I do workout actually more now than I have in, well, maybe there was one point when I was super diehard with my yoga practice where I was doing, like four or five times a week. But yeah, I mean, I'd say I'm pretty much moving every day intentionally, you know.Lesley Logan 3:19  You also cold plunge in the morning. Brad Crowell 3:21  Yeah, been cold plunging. I've been doing some sunlight in the AM.Lesley Logan 3:27  You do get your morning sunlight. You also do yoga almost once a week. Brad Crowell 3:31  Yeah. Also, you know, doing some vitamins through our supplements. AG1. You know, stuff like that. So it's been good. It's been actually more than I've ever done in my entire life. Lesley Logan 3:46  Yeah. And you didn't try to do all the things at the same time you like, added one in at a time.Brad Crowell 3:51  It's. That's exactly right. We all have heard you talk about your morning routine and self-care routine, but I must say the thing that I the most excited about is the cold plunging. And I'm sure you're excited about that, too. I know it's become a daily thing for you.Lesley Logan 4:07  I love the cold plunge. I never miss a day. I'm actually so bummed that I'm not going to have the cold plunge when I travel. Like that's the hardest thing is like, a cold shower is not the same. Brad Crowell 4:16  It's not. Lesley Logan 4:17  You can do it. But it's just it's a little torturous to be completely honest. Yeah. Yeah, I also love that I added my sauna blanket into my routine. It's more of a weekly thing, a couple times a week. And I made the mistake of going oh, I'm working out later this afternoon. So I'll sauna this morning. And I've been fasting like, Mindy Pelz fasting thing and nope, not a good idea to sauna blanket during the fasting window. I was like, oh my god, I'm famished. So, not great but, it was good intent. Good intentions. Well, you guys, we want to hear your self-care routine. So send them to us. We can share them with others because people need to know what are different ways of taking care of ourselves. Self-care is not a reward you do for being a good person in this world, it's part of your rights as being a human being who, just so you know, you're a much better person in this planet when you take care of yourself.Brad Crowell 5:11  It's true. That's why we encourage everyone to do Pilates. Lesley Logan 5:15  And speaking of Pilates, we're leaving in three days from today. So if you listen to us on a different day then, we might be already on the road for our summer tour, our sixth tour powered by Balanced Body. We are hitting 13 cities and so many are sold out. But there are some spots and some things we want to see you so go to opc.me/tour to snag your spot. Bring a friend who's probably curious, of course, come for the community, get the Pilates and win some prizes. It's a good time.Brad Crowell 5:43  Actually, a bunch of the classes are already sold out. But there's, there might still be some availability. So make sure you go check opc.me/tour 5000 miles over 16 days we're going to be ripping through and so come hang out. We actually love to meet all of our members in person, you know, or listeners in person, come hang out and come meet the pups. It's gonna be good time. Lesley Logan 6:07  Yeah. Also, my eLevate applications are open for 2025. It's my mentorship for teachers who've already been trained on the mat, reformer, tower and chair, then you can apply to be in my mentorship program. We really like dive in deep and nerd out and help you teach the body in front of you and like progress clients with confidence, but also, also get nerdy about your personal practice. It's a lot of fun. We've had so many grads and we have a ton of amazing people already signed up for 2025, space is super limited so if you're interested, you don't want to hesitate and wait to the last minute because I might not have any slots. And the next one won't be till 2026. So lesleylogan.co/elevate is where you can apply.Brad Crowell 6:51  Yeah. Okay, next up is one of my absolute favorite things to do. You've heard me talk about Cambodia before. We are going back in February, the end of February 2025. And we would love to have you join us it is an once in a lifetime opportunity. Seriously, the memories that you're gonna make from this experience you will tell everyone about it, you will brag about. It is a bucket list thing. We're gonna go to temples of Angkor, there are lots and lots of temples and we'll get to see a whole bunch of them, get to eat amazing food, meet some incredible people. You're gonna stay at our place, you know, in, you know, right in Siem Reap is the city that we're in. And then we get to do Pilates and all the things, so it is just amazing. Go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com if the end of February 2025 works for you. And if it doesn't just go there and you know, add yourself to the waitlist for future retreats. Lesley Logan 7:45  Yes. And then, if you haven't yet tried the OPC, we want you to. OPC is our Online Pilates Classes membership where you come and just nerd out about Pilates and you get accountability to show up for yourself. Our classes are 30 minutes. Every week in our monthly classes you have access to the full month or 50 minutes, but you can finish as many minutes as you want because I do believe finishing is optional. And we have amazing teachers besides myself. Also, we made a change. So now you get access to each weekly class for two weeks. So when you log in, you'll see this week's class, you'll see last week's class. And so when you try OPC for 40 days for $40, so it's $1 a day, you're going to have access to several different classes to really enjoy and nerd out about in your body and also access to our members link community where you can get feedback on your form, and so much support. So go to opc.me/40.Brad Crowell 8:39  Yeah, do it. Next up, we got something new, we're making a few changes to a webinar I've been working on for a really long time, the Studio Growth Accelerator for Profitable Pilates. So if you are a fitness business owner and you've got a small business or medium-sized business and you're looking to figure out your money, and how to get more of it, and what all that means, join me on this accelerator. It's a free webinar. Free. So go to prfit.biz/accelerator, prfit.biz/accelerator that is profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. And, you know, add yourself to to the list and then we'll let you know exactly when things are kicking off. And we'll be digging into money together. It's really exciting.Lesley Logan 9:33  Okay, before we get into, I can't wait to talk about Gay. I'm so excited. Before you do that we have an audience question. We have a listener question. So Brad, what is our question we're answering this?Brad Crowell 9:43  Okay, cool. Erin Donahue asked, 'Hey, what have you changed in your daily routine or way of thinking as a result of one of the guests' Be It Action Items?' By the way, I think it's perfectly timed with today being the beginning of National Wellness Month. Lesley Logan 9:58  Yeah, it's great timing.Brad Crowell 10:00  Yeah. What have changed in your daily routine or way of thinking as a result of one of your guests' Be It Action Items?Lesley Logan 10:06  There's a there have been some things that, I've done a lot and we've had so many, I mean, 400 episodes. So like, that's not all 200 interviews but like Brad Crowell 10:14  120 or 130. Lesley Logan 10:16  130 interviews. So it's 130 minimum. Brad Crowell 10:19  Probably 150 because we didn't start doing the third episode till partway through this. Lesley Logan 10:23  Yeah. And also, some people give us four Be It Action items, three. So there's been a lot that I'm like, oh, I love, I want to try that out. Or oh, I really love that one or oh, I don't need that one right now. But I know someone who does. I will say what changed my way of thinking is when Dai Manuel from episode 185 talked about 30 minutes is only 2% of your day. I had no idea that 30, how cool am I that I created OPC with 30 minutes, I'm only taking up two percent of your day. But it changed my way of thinking. And so now instead of like going (inaudible) time for that, I'm like, it's only 2% of my day, do I not have 2% of my day to dedicate to myself? You know what I mean? Like, it really changed my way of how I prioritize even just 30 minutes for myself, because my goodness, you got to have that in your day. It doesn't have to be all at once but that's really cool. I did do Kel Cal's, like, be it till you see it song several days in a row. And I have to say, because I would play it while I was cold plunging. And I think this is so fun. But I also kind of want like a different song all the time, which is making me research too much. And so obviously the overachiever in me is like, wearing its ugly head. So I got to tame that beast, but I really do. I really, I want to find a five-minute long song to be completely honest because then it's not ending while I'm in the cold plunge in it and like having to find a new song or repeat it. But that being said, that was a great one. I really liked that one. I think I changed my mindset around some mantras because of Nikole Mitchell. You know, like posts and things like that, like putting reminders up where I can see them because of her Be It Action Items. So which one? Can you think of any that you've added? Or changed your thinking?Brad Crowell 12:05  I mean, there's so many different things, but two that really jumped out for me over the years that have actually made an impact. One of them is Phil Barth actually saidLesley Logan 12:16  Oh my god, Phil Barth.Brad Crowell 12:18  Yeah. He said, (inaudible) he basically said, if you don't make room for your bucket list, you'll never do your bucket list. Okay? So I know, it's like one of those things we like, I'm gonna get to it someday, I'll eventually get to it. And I really loved where he's like, pushing you to put a date on that, a timeline on that. Because I thought, I still think that way. I'm like, someday I'll do that really cool thing. Like, I've always wanted to hike the Appalachian Trail. You know, that's a six-month thing. So I don't know how I'm going to just do that. But you know, when you, when you put that on your list, you got to figure out when am I going to do? How am I going to do it? Am I ever going to accomplish that? Otherwise, it'll just stay there. Another one that I really, I'm not very good at this. And this is something that is challenging for me. Joanne Johanna White said buy the shoes. Lesley Logan 13:14  You don't. You, I have to push you. I'm sitting over here almost buying a belt for a suitcase bag and you are like, I don't know, I've been in my car. Let me think about it. Three months later. I don't know. I'm like, those are never going on sale. They'll never do it. Just get the shoe.Brad Crowell 13:30  So yeah. You know, basically, whatever the thing is, that represents how you want to live your life and you know, that aspirational thing. It's time to put the money down and do it. You know, and I'm not very good at buying myself. Thanks. So, yeah, that's, I've just kind of always kept those things in the back of my mind. I mean, there's so many other amazing ones.Lesley Logan 13:53  I'm now wondering if we should do an episode of just like, Be It Action Items, like just take all all these Be It Action Items and just make episodes out of them because like, I feel like people need to re-hear them. Brad Crowell 14:05  Yeah, I mean, that'd be awesome. That's definitely something we should go back and and have a convo about. But, let's get to it. Let's talk about our guest, Mr. Gay Hendricks. So stick around. We'll be right back.Okay, now let's talk about Gay Hendricks. Gay Hendricks is a renowned author, psychologist and speaker known for his influential work in personal growth and relationships. He holds a PhD in counseling psychology and has authored over 50 books, including The Big Leap which explores overcoming personal limitations and achieving success. Also one of Lesley's favorite books. In his work, he emphasizes transforming one's perception of time, as discussed in his concept of Newtonian versus Einstein Time. Hendricks' teaching focuses on self-awareness, love and integration of body and mind therapies. He's also been married for 44 years, and he and his wife are both focused on similar things. And he was talking about how excited he was that he was able to work together. Lesley Logan 15:07  I know they are so precious, you guys have to follow them on Instagram. And they like do little lives together and like videos and she like, cook something and they're just so sweet and supportive. And they go, it's just wonderful. So they'll put a smile on your face always.Brad Crowell 15:22  Okay, first off, I just want to say, tell I ask, "When did you first find his book? And how many times have you listened to it now?" And tell us a story about bringing him on to the pod. Lesley Logan 15:34  I think I first heard about him in, I want to say it was in 2019, because I remember being driving the Tahoe on tour, listening to his book. Got it. So 2019 was when I was listening to the book the first time. I have listened to it seven times. It has been a book club book for Agency. We have, anytime someone's like, what's up? I'm like, that's the book.Brad Crowell 16:00  Yeah, I think we had, at one point we had a couple of copies of it here too. Lesley Logan 16:02  Yeah. They just keep getting given away. Which is fine. So it's the best and then how did I get him on the show? Okay. So I remember at the very beginning of this podcast, like I asked some big dream guests. I like I have like a lot of guts, I guess.Brad Crowell 16:18  Which we're talking more than 400 episodes ago. Lesley Logan 16:20  Yeah. Yeah. And he responded that nothing, no response. And I like DM-ed him and no response. And you know what's really funny? Here's the link, the podcast that I heard him on, I asked her, she didn't respond. A year later, I asked her she was like, I'm so in. And then for one year, her assistants dicked me around and canceled last minute, moved it around, and I, they're like, oh, we have to like reschedule again. I said, we're not rescheduling anymore. I'm withdrawing my invitation. And I was so disappointed because of just how she handled it just seemed like out of alignment with her values. But I was not done asking Gay I just needed like, I was likeBrad Crowell 16:59  So, with somebody else all together?Lesley Logan 17:01  Yes. Yeah. So Gay, it was like, I just I wasn't getting I wasn't going to the right avenue. I was like, maybe have to find his publisher, maybe I have to do this thing. So I just was really busy. And so occasionally, I would like tag his book and things and like, he wouldn't even respond to those. And that's not his fault. Like you guys. Like, that's not a slight against him. Most people don't respond when I tag them. So like, it's not a big deal. I don't respond when people tag me. So like, that wasn't a big deal. But Christmas of last year, I have been listening, you and I have been listening to like some sort of like self-help, like, thing with James Wedmore who's also a guest I will have on the show. And so I was listening to his like, seven days, or whatever it was. And I was like, I don't want to listen to any news. I want to stay in this positive mindset space. So I'm going to listen to Gay Hendricks' book again. And I was listening to it. And it was Christmas Day. And you were at your parents and I like was walking I like was being by myself in the hotel. And I got through like five chapters like in the morning. And so then I posted a selfie of myself saying I'm listening to this book, like the seventh time, if anyone knows how to get this man on the podcast, help a girl out. And he saw it. And he shared it. And he sent me the email of the person who gets on the pod. So timing is just everything guys, like, probably he was either busy writing a book or wasn't the one opening his DMs. I don't know, maybe he just never saw it because like, it's also the when the post that he made that day was the first one in months. So like it's just also possible and stories don't last more than 24 hours. So then like there's nothing to respond to. So at any rate, I think the timing was so perfect, because how cool he gets to be episode 400? Brad Crowell 18:38  Yeah, pretty, pretty rad. That is really amazing. Okay. Well, tell us about one thing he said that you loved.Lesley Logan 18:46  There was actually so many things. First, I didn't even know he wrote 51 books, you guys. I thought he had written the two that I love. So I'm like, wow, I should do some research. But he said most people don't know where their upper limit problems are located. They think it's problems are having externally rather than internally. But each of us has our own self-sabotage mechanism. And these start from childhood and they are the form of limiting beliefs.Brad Crowell 19:13  That was something very surprising to me. Like before you even realize that you're consciously compiling decision-making powers you're being imprinted by Lesley Logan 19:23  All the parents listening, you probably have, in all your best intentions, done some form of limiting Brad Crowell 19:29  You f* up your kids, god d* it. Lesley Logan 19:31  You f* them up. And you know, it's okay because your parents f* you up and you're all doing the best you can. And each generation you, hopefully f* them up a little bit less. But at any rate, like they're these limiting beliefs are things that we've, are ingrained. Like, you know, my mom was telling me some things that hurt like dad would say it and I'm like, oh my god, no wonder she doesn't think she can do X. He, like he, like the things he said were just who says it out loud?Brad Crowell 19:59  So I was listening, overheard that conversation.Lesley Logan 20:02  I mean, I'm just like, Oh my god. So. So I just think it's really, really I think what's cool about his book is it helps you understand your self-sabotage because you, you might not until you and he puts words to things that you're doing and actions you're taking. And you might not even be thinking that, like, I've told, I've told this story before, but my client who, whenever she would meet a guy she really, really liked to have an amazing date, she'd lose her voice for six months. You guys, this girl did not have a cold. Like, nothing happened to her. She just really liked this person. And then because she had, she would like self-sabotage by making herself lose her voice. So she couldn't possibly go on another date. And then she'd have to go through steroid treatments and all these things and like, vocal coaches, it was just crazy stuff. And I'm not saying like, you know, like, these are things we do. You know, we do this all the time when things go, well, we want vacation, we get sick. You know, so it's just very fascinating stuff. Um, that's just one of them. Self-reparations, another, there's a bunch. And I just thought they were so, so great. So his book really will help you understand all of them. He'll give you great examples. And I just, I'm fascinated. I'm fascinated by him. He also, you guys broke his femur. Brad Crowell 21:17  Oh, yeah, like recently. Lesley Logan 21:18  And he is doing just fine. Because he just looks at life with just so much curiosity and joy and excitement. He clearly lives in such a present place. I don't think the man is stressed out. I want to move to Ojai and do his routine.Brad Crowell 21:35  Well, I really was nerding out about this idea of Newton versus Einstein time. I know it's your favorite chapter in the book.Lesley Logan 21:42  But as I, you guys have to listen to the episode, because it wasn't always. Brad Crowell 21:47  It wasn't always but he, he also talked about it being one of his favorite chapters in the book. And he kind of explained a little bit about this. And I thought we should rehash this so we can kind of wrap our heads around it. Newton time, time is linear and mechanical. Lesley Logan 22:04  Or also known as Newtonian time. Brad Crowell 22:05  Newtonian time, it reflects a rigid, structured approach to time basically the way that we think of, I gotta be there, you know, I'm working from nine to five, okay, nine o'clock to five o'clock. So you're there, right? Period, that is Newtonian time. It is rigid, it has a structured approach. Whereas in Einstein, he said, time expands or contracts, depending on the quality of our experience. For example, what did you all just think when I said, nine to five? It's so long. But it's still just nine to five. It's the same nine to five. But our experience of having to be at the office from nine to five is like, ugh, right? So it feels like forever. I'm sure you've all had that experience, where you're like, whoa, what happened to today? It just went so fast. That is Einstein's approach to time, right? So he emphasized the importance of Lesley Logan 23:00  Well, Einstein's approach is that you could stretch, you can manipulate it. Like, it's not just that, like, the day goes so fast. It just is like, you can, in the book, he talks about how like, if you are constantly looking at your watch, I'm gonna be late, I'm gonna be late, I'm gonna be late, I'm, and you have no control over the train, and you have no control over these things. You are inevitably, what? Hitting every red light like Newtonian time, like when we stress out, like we hit all the red lights, and we're late, right? But when you just like sit back, relax, like James Wedmore talked about a story about how he was like doing a sales call. And it went long. And he looks at the clock, he's like, I'm never gonna make it to the airport. He was like, and he had to like return the rental car.Brad Crowell 23:38  I literally experienced that same story. Lesley Logan 23:40  And he was like, there's no other way but I'm gonna make this flight. And it's going to happen, and he just believed in it happening. And he eased in, he kept focusing on that. And he stretched time, you guys, he made it there it's not like the plane delayed, and that's why he made the flight. He just somehow made it there faster. Like everything opened up, all the doors opened up for it to be easier to get there. So that's Einstein time. Brad Crowell 24:04  I've had that same experience, like in the airport where we landed late, you know, from another flight. And then I had to go across the airport, which includes taking a tram. Right, and then I had to still go back through security. And yet somehow I made the flight. Lesley Logan 24:17  Yeah. Oh, I mean, I remember. Okay, so, Heathrow. I was on a plane and they were, the Heathrow Airport was making us circle the airport and the flight attendant came up, came up and she said, hey, they know you're here. You're checked in. But you're gonna need to run. And I was like, okay, no problem. You guys. I didn't just need to run, I had also take a bus and then run again. So the bus and I started doing little Newtonian time I started like checking the minutes. I just kept checking my watch because this bus was not coming like checking. I'm like, I'm not gonna make this fight. And then I was like, hold on. I have to make this fight. This flight is going to happen. And I was on the bus. And of course every plane is just wanting to drive in front of our bus and I see this girl and I, because everyone there is definitely going back to India and like, this is one blonde chick. And I was like, are you going to LA? And she said, yeah, I was like, (inaudible), like, we're gonna make this flight. We're making this flight. And we it's going to happen. And sure enough, you guys we ran, we had to go through security. But I was just like, we're making the flight, we're making this flight. And we, I don't know how we made that flight. But we made that flight. And they brought us wine and they gave us our own row. So it does work, you just have to believe in it.Brad Crowell 25:32  Well, so Einstein emphasized the importance of changing how we perceive time, encouraged noticing and altering complaints and limiting beliefs around time to start noticing when you're complaining about time, start noticing when you're complaining, or where you address other people about time. I guess when you were talking with Gay, one of the things he talked about was, "Oh, sorry. I don't have enough time for that conversation." Right? And that was the kind of approach that people are taking with Newtonian time as opposed to Einstein time. And he said, ultimately you own your time. And that's one of the things that Gay was talking about. You take responsibility for creating whatever way about time you want to create. But you have to do it in your own creative way. It's abstract. I'm not gonna lie. But, also, it's amazing that we've all probably inadvertently done this over the years.Lesley Logan 26:24  Oh, you guys, it feels like this random chapter should be its own book. And then it when you read the book again, and again, it makes more sense. When you listen to Gay and like why he put that in there, it will make more sense. So listen to the episode. And then also, like, just notice the intentionality of words. Like I don't have time for that meeting, as opposed to like, oh, I'm not able to commit to that right now. Do like one of those puts you in a more powerful place, and the other one puts you as a victim of your circumstances. Right? And so that can change how you perceive your abilities and your strengths. There's this one woman that I heard speak and she said, I never say, I can't afford that. Because that is telling the universe I don't have any money. That's telling me I don't have any money. She said, instead, I say, I'm not, I'm choosing not to spend money on that right now. And so it's just it's a different thing. And so, at the very least, just like, notice the power in your words, and your time, we've got control over it. It's kind of amazing. Brad Crowell 27:19  Well, speaking of time. Lesley Logan 27:21  We're taking too much. Brad Crowell 27:22  Stick around. We'll be right back. All right. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Gay Hendricks? He emphasized to get busy wondering about what your genius zone is. Now, I think the key is wondering, right, y'all to have this great conversation. Well, I wonder and you talked about your tattoo. But he said wondering is an underutilized human superpower. We, he said, we often we almost always go around looking for answers outside of ourselves, you know, very much like this podcast. But he said, what if you take a moment to look in internally, we're often asking gurus and teachers, but it's rare to actually just sit, set aside 10 seconds or 10 minutes, and then genuinely wonder about yourself, about it, the thing, whatever it is that you're working on, are focused on. And he said, here's a couple of key questions to ask, which I thought was really helpful. What do I most love to do? And what do I love to do that makes a contribution to other people? And I thought that was helpful because you know, what is wondering, right? What are we wondering about here? What are we actually trying to do? Lesley Logan 28:43  Yes. And in his book, his daily book, Your Big Leap Year, he has you do a lot of hmm.Brad Crowell 28:50  Oh, yeah?Lesley Logan 28:51  Yeah, humming, it actually does a thing in your brain that like opens up the wonder portals and then you say, hmm.Brad Crowell 29:01  Well, so remember, we're trying to find our zone of genius. So how do we get busy wondering about our zone of genius? So start by asking the questions what do I love? What do I most love to do? And then what do I most love to do that makes a contribution for other people and then give yourself time to actually wonder, be curious, think about it. Lesley Logan 29:22  And you could go hmm, what do I most love to do? What do I most love to do that makes a contribution other people?Brad Crowell 29:31  Hmm, what about you?Lesley Logan 29:32  Hmm, oh my gosh, okay, this was so great. This was just like I was eating this up. Our poor team, we didn't even stop for him to, we just went right into this. I was like, good luck guys getting those be it action items in there. Creativity is anything that has the capacity to surprise you. I'm like I just love it surprise you like we never get surprised anymore. No one wants to be surprised anymore. I don't.Brad Crowell 29:55  I do. Lesley Logan 29:55  Like you love it? Brad Crowell 29:56  Yeah, I like surprises. Lesley Logan 29:57  I get so nervous. So like I'm trying really hard. But he says make a commitment to getting more creative every day and opening up more of your genius, which starts with a commitment. So you have to start somewhere by making a stand and the more heartfelt you make your commitment, the faster it will manifest. So he advised you to get your head and your heart in alignment and working together because that gives you an unstoppable power to bring forth the things that are most important to you. Creativity is anything that has the capacity to surprise you. So a Be It Action Item is like, how could you be more creative in your day? What is something you could do? Could you, "Hmmmm, I wonder." Like going back to episode, how fun is this, episode one was all about going how does it get any better than this? Brad Crowell 30:43  How does it? Lesley Logan 30:44  Like that could be your ability to open. Brad Crowell 30:46  101, we're back to it. Lesley Logan 30:48  Yeah, the capacity to surprise you. So and I really liked this because you know, The Artist's Way is very big on like getting creative every day like journaling. So creativity can be just like Morning Pages, it can be taking a different route to work in the morning. And maybe you get creative with your outfits every day. Some of us like have a whole closet full of clothes, we don't wear like there's so many different ways you can get creative. Maybe you get creative with your lunches that you make for yourself, or the coffee that you, that you make, you know, maybe like, there's just so many different ways you can, you can be creative. So I love that. I love I just love this episode, and I'm just so happy. It's out into the world and it's in your ears. Please share it with as many people as possible. If you don't have to share this one you can share that interview one but like, please, please, please leave a review. And we're at episode 400. And you know, what I would love? It would mean the world to me, is by episode 500 that we will have you know, grown our audience like, times two. And that happens if every listener, if every single one of you shares with a friend who listens, boom, doubled. That's how it goes. It's that easy. You don't have to share with 10 people, one person. Brad Crowell 31:56  One person.Lesley Logan 31:57  So and you know what, you can get creative with it. And you can combine.Brad Crowell 32:01  You can wonder. Lesley Logan 32:02  You can wonder, hmm. Brad Crowell 32:03  How are we going to do this? Lesley Logan 32:04  I wonder who needs to hear this episode? Gay Hendricks if you're listening, holy moly. You changed my life. You have no idea. I'm so grateful for you. Everyone, how are you gonna use these tips in your life? Let us know. Make sure that you share your wins with us so we can (inaudible) them on our Fuck Yeah Friday episodes and until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 32:23  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 32:25  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 33:08  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 33:13  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 33:17  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 33:24  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 33:28  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time. Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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For years now, even as headlines about the development of AI have become more frequent and more dire, I really never worried about it much, because I couldn't think of anything in scripture that sounded a great deal like a superintelligent machine. I'd read the end of the book (Revelation), I knew how it ended, and it wasn't in a robot apocalypse... so all the fears surrounding that possibility must therefore be much ado about nothing. (I did write a fictional trilogy for young adults back in 2017 about how I imagined a near-miss robot apocalypse might look, though, because I found the topic fascinating enough to research at the time. It's called the "Uncanny Valley" trilogy, where the "uncanny valley" refers to the "creepy" factor, as a synthetic humanoid creature approaches human likeness.) When I finished the trilogy, I more or less forgot about advancing AI, until some of the later iterations of Chat GPT and similar Large Language Models (LLMs). Full disclosure: I've never used any LLMs myself, mostly because (last I checked) you had to create an account with your email address before you started asking it questions. (In the third book of my series, the superintelligent bot Jaguar kept track of everyone via facial recognition cameras, recording literally everything they did in enormous data processing centers across the globe that synced with one another many times per day. Though at that point I doubt it would make any difference, I'd rather not voluntarily give Jaguar's real-life analog any data on me if I can help it!) Particularly the recent release of Chat GPT Omni (which apparently stands for "omniscient" --!!) gave me pause, though, and I had to stop and ask myself why the idea that it could be approaching actual Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. I recently read a book called "Deep Medicine" by Eric Topol on the integration of AI into the medical field, which helped allay some potential concerns--that book contended that AGI would likely never be realized, largely because AGI inherently requires experience in the real world, and a robot can never have lived experiences in the way that humans can. It painted a mostly rosy picture of narrow (specialized) AI engaging in pattern recognition (reading radiology images or recognizing pathology samples or dermatological lesions, for instance), and thus vastly improving diagnostic capabilities of physicians. Other uses might include parsing a given individual's years of medical records and offering a synopsis and recommendations, or consolidating PubMed studies, and offering relevant suggestions. Topol did not seem to think that the AI would ever replace the doctor, though. Rather, the author contended, at the rate that data is currently exploding, doctors are drowning in the attempt to document and to keep up with it all, and empathic patient care suffers as a result. AI, he argues, will actually give the doctor time to spend with the patient again, to make judgment calls with a summary of all the data at his fingertips, and to put it together in an integrated whole with his uniquely human common sense. Synthetic Empathy and Emotions? But, "Deep Medicine" was written in 2019, which (in the world of AI) is already potentially obsolete. I'm told that Chat GPT Omni is better than most humans at anything involving either logic or creativity, and it does a terrific approximation of empathy, too. Even "Deep Medicine" cited statistics to suggest that most humans would prefer a machine for a therapist than a person (!!), largely due to the fear that the human might judge them for some of their most secret or shameful thoughts or feelings. And if the machine makes you feel like it understands you, does it really matter whether its empathy is "real" or not? What does "real" empathy mean, anyway? In "Uncanny Valley," my main character, as a teenager, inherited a "companion bot" who was programmed with mirror neurons (the seat of empathy in the human brain.) In the wake of her father's death, she came to regard her companion bot as her best friend. It was only as she got older that she started to ask questions like whether its 'love' for her was genuine, if it was programmed. This is essentially the theological argument for free will, too. Could God have made a world without sin? Sure, but in order to do it, we'd all have to be automatons--programmed to do His will, programmed to love Him and to love one another. Would there be any value in the love of a creature who could not do anything else? (The Calvinists might say that's the way the world actually is, for those who are predestined, but everyone else would vehemently disagree.) It certainly seems that God thought it was worth all the misery He endured since creation, for the chance that some of us might freely choose Him. I daresay that same logic is self-evident to all of us. Freedom is an inherent good--possibly the highest good. So, back to AI: real empathy requires not just real emotion, but memories of one's own real emotions, so that we can truly imagine that we are in another person's shoes. How can a robot, without its own lived memories, experience real empathy? Can it even experience real emotion? It might have goals or motives that can be programmed, but emotion at minimum requires biochemistry and a nervous system, at least in the way we understand it. We know from psychology research on brain lesions as well as from psychiatric and recreational medications and experiences with those suffering from neurodegenerative conditions that mood, affect, and personality can drastically change from physiologic tampering, as well. Does it follow that emotions are 'mere' biochemistry, though? This is at least part of the age-old question of materialism versus vitalism, or (to put it another way), reductionism versus holism. Modern medicine is inherently materialistic, believing that the entirety of a living entity can be explained by its physical makeup, and reductionistic, believing that one can reduce the 'whole' of the living system to a sum of its parts. Vitalism, on the other hand, argues that there is something else, something outside the physical body of the creature, that animates it and gives it life. At the moment just before death and just after, all the same biochemical machinery exists... but anyone who has seen the death of a loved one can attest that the body doesn't look the same. It becomes almost like clay. Some key essence is missing. I recently read "The Rainbow and the Worm" by Mae-Wan Ho, which described fascinating experiments on living worms viewed under electron microscopes. The structured water in the living tissue of the worm exhibited coherence, refracting visible light in a beautiful rainbow pattern. At the moment of death, though, the coherence vanished, and the rainbow was gone--even though all of the same physical components remained. The change is immaterial; the shift between death and life is inherently energetic. There was an animus, a vital force--qi, as Chinese Medicine would call it, or prana, as Ayurvedic medicine would describe it, or (as we're now discovering in alternative Western medicine), voltage carried through this structured water via our collagen. That hydrated collagen appears to function in our bodies very much like a semiconductor, animating our tissues with electrons, the literal energy of life. At the moment of death, it's there, and then it's not--like someone pulled the plug. What's left is only the shell of the machine, the hardware. But where is that plug, such that it can be connected and then, abruptly, not? The materialist, who believes that everything should be explainable on the physical level, can have no answer. The Bible tells us, though, that we are body, soul, and spirit (1 Thess 5:23)--which inherently makes a distinction between body and soul (implying that the soul is not a mere product of the chemistry of the body). The spirit is what was dead without Jesus, and what gets born again when we are saved, and it's perfect, identical with Jesus' spirit (2 Cor. 5:17, Eph 4:24). It's God's "seal" on us, vacuum-packed as it were, so that no sin can contaminate it. It's the down-payment, a promise that complete and total restoration is coming (Eph 1:13-14). But there's no physical outlet connecting the spirit and the body; the connection between them is the soul. With our souls, we can see what's ours in the Spirit through scripture, and scripture can train our souls to conform more and more to the spirit (Romans 12:2, Phil 2:12-13). No one would ever argue that a machine would have a spirit, obviously, but the materialists wouldn't believe there is such a thing, anyway. What about the soul, though? What is a soul, anyway? Can it be explained entirely through materialistic means?Before God made Adam, He explicitly stated that He intended to make man after His own image (Gen 1:26-27). God is spirit (John 4:24), though, so the resemblance can't be physical, per se, at least not exclusively or even primarily. After forming his body, God breathed into him the breath of life (Genesis 2:7)--the same thing Jesus did to the disciples after His resurrection when he said "Receive the Holy Spirit" (John 20:22). So it must therefore be in our spirits that we resemble God. Adam and Eve died spiritually when they sinned (Genesis 3:3), but something continued to animate their bodies for another 930 years. This is the non-corporeal part of us that gets "unplugged" at physical death. Since it can be neither body nor spirit, it must be the soul. Andrew Wommack defines the soul as the mind, will, and emotions. I can't think of a single scripture that defines the soul this way; I think it's just an extrapolation, based on what's otherwise unaccounted for. But in our mind, will, and emotions, even before redemption, mankind continued to reflect God's image, in that he continued to possess the ability to reason, to choose, to create, to love, and to discern right from wrong. The materialists would argue that emotion, like everything else, must have its root purely in the physical realm. Yet they do acknowledge that because there are so many possible emotional states, and relatively few physiologic expressions of them, many emotions necessarily share a physiologic expression. It's up to our minds to translate the meaning of a physiologic state, based on the context. In "How Emotions are Made," author Lisa Barrett gave a memorable example of this: once, a colleague to whom she didn't think she was particularly attracted asked her for a date. She went, felt various strange things in her gut that felt a little like “butterflies”, and assumed during the date that perhaps she was attracted to him after all… only to later learn that she was actually in the early stages of gastroenteritis! This example illustrates how the biochemistry and physiologic expressions of emotion are merely the blunt downstream instruments that translate an emotion from the non-corporeal soul into physical perception--and in some cases, as in that one, the emotional perception might originate from the body entirely. This also might be why some people (children especially) can mistake hunger or fatigue for irritability, or why erratic blood sugar in uncontrolled diabetics can manifest as rage, etc. In those cases, the emotional response really does correspond to the materialist's worldview, originating far downstream in the "circuit," as it were. But people who experience these things as adults will say things like, "That's not me." I think they're right--when we think of our true selves, none of us think of our bodies--those are just our "tents" (2 Cor 5:1), to be put off eventually when we die. When we refer to our true selves, we mean our souls: our mind, will, and emotions. It's certainly possible for many of us to feel "hijacked" by our emotions, as if they're in control and not "us," though (Romans 7:15-20). Most of us recognize a certain distinction there, too, between the real "us" and our emotions. The examples of physiologic states influencing emotions are what scripture would call "carnal" responses. If we're "carnal," ruled by our flesh, then physiologic states will have a great deal of influence over our emotions-- a kind of small scale anarchy. The "government" is supposed to be our born-again spirits, governing our souls, which in turn controls our bodies, rather than allowing our flesh to control our souls (Romans 8:1-17) - though this is of course possible if we don't enforce order. With respect to AI, my point is, where does "true" emotion originate? There is a version of it produced downstream, in our flesh, yes. It can either originate from the flesh itself, or it can originate upstream, from the non-corporeal soul, what we think of us "the real us." That's inherently a philosophical and not a scientific argument, though, as science by definition is "the observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena." Any question pertaining to something outside the physical world cannot fall under the purview of science. But even for those who do not accept scripture as authority, our own inner experience testifies to the truth of the argument. We all know that we have free will; we all know we can reason, and feel emotions. We can also tell the difference between an emotion that is "us" and an emotion that feels like it originates from outside of "our real selves". As C.S. Lewis said in "Mere Christianity," if there is a world outside of the one we can experimentally observe, the only place in which we could possibly expect to have any evidence of it is in our own internal experience. And there, we find it's true. Without a soul, then, a robot (such as an LLM) would of course exist entirely on the physical plane, unlike us. It therefore might have physical experiences that it might translate as emotion, the same way that we sometimes interpret physical experiences as emotion--but it cannot have true emotions. Empathy, therefore, can likewise be nothing more than programmed pattern recognition: this facial expression or these words or phrases tend to mean that the person is experiencing these feelings, and here is the appropriate way to respond. Many interactions with many different humans over a long period of time will refine the LLM's learning such that its pattern recognition and responses get closer and closer to the mark... but that's not empathy, not really. It's fake. Does that matter, though, if the person "feels" heard and understood? Well, does truth matter? If a man who is locked up in an insane asylum believes himself to be a great king, and believes that all the doctors and nurses around him are really his servants and subjects, would you trade places with him? I suspect that all of us would say no. With at least the protagonists in "The Matrix," we all agree that it's better to be awakened to a desperate truth than to be deceived by a happy lie. The Emotional Uncanny Valley Even aside from that issue, is it likely that mere pattern recognition could simulate empathy well enough to satisfy us--or is it likely that this, too, would fall into the "uncanny valley"? Most of us have had the experience of meeting a person who seems pleasant enough on the surface, and yet something about them just seemed ‘off'. (The Bible calls this discernment, 1 Corinthians 12:10.) When I was in a psychology course in college, the professor flashed images of several clean-cut, smiling men in the powerpoint, out of context, and asked us to raise our hands if we would trust each of them. I don't remember who most of them were - probably red herrings to disguise the point - but one of them was Ted Bundy, the serial killer of the 1970s. I didn't recognize him, but I did feel a prickling sense of unease as I gazed at his smiling face. Something just wasn't right. Granted, a violent psychopath is not quite the same, but isn't the idea of creating a robot possessed of emotional intelligence (in the sense that it can read others well) but without real empathy essentially like creating an artificial sociopath? Isn't the lack of true empathy the very definition? (Knowing this, would we really want jobs like social workers, nurses, or even elementary school teachers to be assumed by robots--no matter how good the empathic pattern recognition became?) An analogy of this is the 1958 Harlow experiment on infant monkeys (https://www.simplypsychology.org/harlow-monkey.html), in which the monkeys were given a choice between two simulated mothers: one made of wire, but that provided milk, and one made of cloth, but without milk. The study showed that the monkeys would only go to the wire mother when hungry; the rest of the day they would spend in the company of the cloth mother. My point is that emotional support matters to all living creatures, far more than objective physical needs (provided those needs are also met). If we just want a logical problem solved, we may well go to the robot. But most of our problems are not just questions of logic; they involve emotions, too. As Leonard Mlodinow, author of "Emotional" writes, emotions are not mere extraneous data that colors an experience, but can otherwise be ignored at will. In many cases, the emotions actually serve to motivate a course of action. Every major decision I've ever made in my life involved not just logic, but also emotion, or in some cases intuition (which I assume is a conscious prompting when the unconscious reasoning is present but unknown to me), or a else leading of the Holy Spirit (which "feels" like intuition, only without the presumed unconscious underpinning. He knows the reason, but I don't, even subconsciously.) Obviously, AI, with synthetic emotion or not, would have no way to advise us on matters of intuition, or especially promptings from the Holy Spirit. Those won't usually *seem* logical, based on the available information, but He has a perspective that we don't have. Neither will a machine, even if it could simultaneously process all known data available on earth. There was a time when Newtonian physicists believed that, with access to that level of data in the present, the entire future would become deterministic, making true omniscience in this world  theoretically possible. Then we discovered quantum physics, and all of that went out the window. Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle eliminates the possibility that any creature or machine, no matter how powerful, can in our own dimension ever truly achieve omniscience. In other words, even a perfectly logical machine with access to all available knowledge will fail to guide us into appropriate decisions much of the time -- precisely because they must lack true emotion, intuition, and especially the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Knowledge vs Wisdom None of us will be able to compete with the level of knowledge an AI can process in a split second. But does that mean the application of that knowledge will always be appropriate? I think there's several levels to this question. The first has to do with the data sets on which AI has been trained. It can only learn from the patterns it's seen, and it will (like a teenager who draws sweeping conclusions based on very limited life experience) assume that it has the whole picture. In this way, AI may be part of the great deception mentioned by both Jesus (Matt 24:24) and the Apostle Paul (2 Thess 2:11) in the last days. How many of us already abdicate our own reasoning to those in positions of authority, blindly following them because we assume they must know more than we do on their subject? How much more will many of us fail to question the edicts of a purportedly "omniscient" machine, which must know more than we do on every subject? That machine may have only superficial knowledge of a subject, based on the data set it's been given, and may thus draw an inappropriate conclusion. (Also, my understanding is that current LLMs continue learning only until they are released into the world; from that point, they can no longer learn anything new, because of the risk that in storing new information, they could accidentally overwrite an older memory.) A human may draw an inappropriate conclusion too, of course, and if that person has enough credentials behind his name, it may be just as deceptive to many. But at least one individual will not command such blind obedience on absolutely every subject. AGI might. So who controls the data from which that machine learns? That's a tremendous responsibility... and, potentially, a tremendous amount of power, to deceive, if possible, "even the elect." For the sake of argument, let's say that the AGI is exposed only to real and complete data, though--not cherry-picked, and not "misinformation." In this scenario, some believe that (if appropriate safeguards are in place, to keep the AGI from deciding to save the planet by killing all the humans, for example, akin to science fiction author Isaac Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics), utopia will result. The only way this is possible, though, is if not only does the machine learn on a full, accurate, and complete set of collective human knowledge, but it also has a depth of understanding of how to apply that knowledge, as well. This is the difference between knowledge and wisdom. The dictionary definition of wisdom is "the ability to discern or judge what is true, right, or lasting," versus knowledge, defined as "information gained through experience, reasoning, or acquaintance." Wisdom has to do with one's worldview, in other words, or the lens through which he sees and interprets a set of facts. It is inextricably tied to morality. (So, who is programming these LLMs again? Even without AI, since postmodernism and beyond, there's been a crisis among many intellectuals as to whether or not there's such a thing as "truth," even going so far as to question objective physical reality. That's certainly a major potential hazard right there.) Both words of wisdom and discernment are listed as explicit supernatural gifts of the Spirit (1 Cor 12:8, 10). God says that He is the source of wisdom, as well as of knowledge and understanding (Prov 2:6), and that if we lack wisdom, we should ask Him for it (James 1:5). Wisdom is personified in the book of Proverbs as a person, with God at creation (Prov 8:29-30)--which means, unless it's simply a poetic construct, that wisdom and the Holy Spirit must be synonymous (Gen 1:2). Jesus did say that it was the Holy Spirit who would guide us into all truth, as He is the Spirit of truth (John 16:13). The Apostle Paul contrasts the wisdom of this world as foolishness compared to the wisdom of God (1 Cor 1:18-30)--because if God is truth (John 14:6), then no one can get to true wisdom without Him. That's not to say that no human (or robot) can make a true statement without an understanding of God, of course--but when he does so, he's borrowing from a worldview  not his own. The statement may be true, but almost by accident--on some level, if you go down deep enough to bedrock beliefs, there is an inherent inconsistency between the statement of truth and the person's general worldview, if that worldview does not recognize a Creator. (Jason Lisle explains this well and in great detail in "The Ultimate Proof of Creation.") Can you see the danger of trusting a machine to discern what is right, then, simply because in terms of sheer facts and computing power, it's vastly "smarter" than we are? Anyone who does so is almost guaranteed to be deceived, unless he also filters the machine's response through his own discernment afterwards. (We should all be doing this with statements from any human authority on any subject, too, by the way. Never subjugate your own reasoning to anyone else's, even if they do know the Lord, but especially if they don't. You have the mind of Christ! 1 Cor 2:16).  Would Eliminating Emotion from the Workplace Actually Be a Good Thing? I can see how one might think that replacing a human being with a machine that optimizes logic, but strips away everything else might seem a good trade, on the surface. After all, we humans (especially these days) aren't very logical, on the whole. Our emotions and desires are usually corrupted by sin. We're motivated by selfishness, greed, pride, and petty jealousies, when we're not actively being renewed by the Holy Spirit (and most of us aren't; even most believers are more carnal than not, most of the time. I don't know if that's always been the case, but it seems to be now). We also are subject to the normal human frailties: we get sick, or tired, or cranky, or hungry, or overwhelmed. We need vacations. We might be distracted by our own problems, or apathetic about the task we've been paid to accomplish. Machines would have none of these drawbacks. But do we really understand the trade-off we're making? We humans have a tendency to take a sliver of information, assume it's the whole picture, and run with it--eliminating everything we think is extraneous, simply because we don't understand it. In our hubris, we don't stop to consider that all the elements we've discarded might actually be critical to function. This seems to me sort of like processed food. We've taken the real thing the way God made it, and tweaked it in a laboratory to make it sweeter, crunchier, more savory, and with better "mouth feel.” It's even still got the same number of macronutrients and calories that it had before. But we didn't understand not only how processing stripped away necessary micronutrients, but also added synthetic fats that contaminated our cell membranes, and chemicals that can overwhelm our livers, making us overweight and simultaneously nutrient depleted. We just didn't know what we didn't know. We've done the same thing with genetically engineered foods. God's instructions in scripture were to let the land lie fallow, and to rotate crops, because the soil itself is the source of micronutrition for the plant. If you plant the same crop in the same soil repeatedly and without a break, you will deplete the soil, and the plants will no longer be as nutritious, or as healthy... and an unhealthy plant is easy prey for pests. But the agriculture industry ignored this; it didn't seem efficient or profitable enough, presumably. Synthetic fertilizer is the equivalent of macronutrients only for plants, so they grow bigger than ever before (much like humans do if they subsist on nothing but fast food), but they're still nutrient depleted and unhealthy, and thus, easy prey for pests. So we added the gene to the plants to make them produce their own glyphosate, the active ingredient in RoundUp. Only glyphosate itself turns out to be incredibly toxic to humans, lo and behold... There are many, many more examples I can think of just in the realm of science, health, and nutrition, to say nothing of our approach to economics, or climate, or many other complex systems. We tend to isolate the “active ingredient,” and eliminate everything we consider to be extraneous… only to learn of the side effects decades later. So what will the consequences be to society if most workers in most professions eventually lack true emotion, empathy, wisdom, and intuition? Finding Purpose in Work There's also a growing concern that AI will take over nearly all jobs, putting almost everyone out of work. At this point, it seems that information-based positions are most at risk, and especially anything involving repetitive, computer-based tasks. I also understand that AI is better than most humans at writing essays, poetry, and producing art. Current robotics is far behind AI technology, though... Elon Musk has been promising self-driving cars in the eminent future for some time, yet they don't seem any closer to ubiquitous adoption now than they were five years ago. "A Brief History of Intelligence" by Max Bennett, published in fall 2023, said that as of the time of writing, robots can diagnose tumors from radiographic imaging better than most radiologists, yet they are still incapable of simple physical tasks such as loading a dishwasher without breaking things. (I suspect this is because the former involves intellectual pattern recognition, which seems to be their forte, while the latter involves movements that are subconscious for most of us, requiring integration of spatial recognition, balance, distal fine motor skills, etc. We're still a very long way from understanding the intricacies of the human brain... but then again, the pace at which knowledge is doubling is anywhere from every three to thirteen months, depending on the source. Either way, that's fast). On the assumption that we'll soon be able to automate nearly everything a human can do physically or intellectually, then, the world's elite have postulated a Universal Basic Income--essentially welfare for all, since we would in theory be incapable of supporting ourselves. Leaving aside the many catastrophically failed historical examples of socialism and communism, it's pretty clear that God made us for good work (Eph 2:10, 2 Cor 9:8), and He expects us to work (2 Thess 3:10). Idleness while machines run the world is certainly not a biblical solution. That said, technology in and of itself is morally neutral. It's a tool, like money, time, or influence, and can be used for good or for evil. Both the Industrial Revolution and in the Information Revolution led to plenty of unforeseen consequences and social upheaval. Many jobs became obsolete, while new jobs were created that had never existed before. Work creates wealth, and due to increased efficiency, the world as a whole became wealthier than ever before, particularly in nations where these revolutions took hold. In the US, after the Industrial Revolution, the previously stagnant average standard of living suddenly doubled every 36 years. At the same time, though, the vast majority of the wealth created was in the hands of the few owners of the technology, and there was a greater disparity between the rich and the poor than ever before. This disparity has only grown more pronounced since the Information Revolution--and we have a clue in Revelation 6:5-6 that in the end times, it will be worse than ever. Will another AI-driven economic revolution have anything to do with this? It's certainly possible.  Whether or not another economic revolution should happen has little bearing on whether or not it will, though. But one thing for those of us who follow the Lord to remember is that we don't have to participate in the world's economy, if we trust Him to meet our needs. He is able to make us abound for every good work (2 Cor 9:8)--which I believe means we will also have some form of work, no matter what is going on in the world around us. He will bless the work of our hands, whatever we find for them to do (Deut 12:7). He will give us the ability to produce wealth (Deut 8:18), even if it seems impossible. He will meet all our needs as we seek His kingdom first (Luke 12:31-32)-and one of our deepest needs is undoubtedly a sense of purpose (Phil 4:19).  We are designed to fulfill a purpose. What about the AI Apocalyptic Fears? The world's elite seem to fall into two camps on how an AI revolution might affect our world--those who think it will usher in utopia (Isaac Asimov's “The Last Question” essentially depicts this), and those who think AI will decide that humans are the problem, and destroy us all. I feel pretty confident the latter won't occur, at least not completely, since neither Revelation nor any of the rest of the prophetic books seem to imply domination of humanity by machine overlords. Most, if not all of the actors involved certainly appear to be human (and angelic, and demonic). That said, there are several biblical references that the end times will be "as in the days of Noah" (Matt 24:27, Luke 17:26). What could that mean? Genesis 6 states that the thoughts in the minds of men were only evil all the time, so it may simply mean that in the end times, mankind will have achieved the same level of corruption as in the antediluvian world. But that might not be all. In Gen 6:1-4, we're told that the "sons of God" came down to the "daughters of men," and had children by them--the Nephilim. This mingling of human and non-human corrupted the genetic line, compromising God's ability to bring the promised seed of Eve to redeem mankind. Daniel 2:43 also reads, "As you saw iron mixed with ceramic clay, they (in the end times) will mingle with the seed of men; but they will not adhere to one another, just as iron does not mix with clay." What is "they," if not the seed of men? It appears to be humanity, plus something else. Chuck Missler and many others have speculated that this could refer to transhumanism, the merging of human and machine. Revelation 13:14-15 is probably the most likely description I can think of in scripture of AI, describing the image of the beast that speaks, knows whether or not people worship the beast (AI facial recognition, possibly embedded into the "internet of things"?), and turns in anyone who refuses to do so. The mark of the beast sure sounds like a computer chip of some kind, with an internet connection (Bluetooth or something like it - Rev 13:17). Joel 2:4-9 describes evil beings "like mighty men" that can "climb upon a wall" and "when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded," and they "enter in at the windows like a thief." These could be demonic and thus extra-dimensional, but don't they also sound like “The Terminator,” if robotics ever manages to advance that far? Jeremiah 50:9 says, "their arrows shall be like those of an expert warrior; none shall return in vain." This sounds like it could be AI-guided missiles. But the main evil actors of Revelation--the antichrist, the false prophet, the kings of the east, etc, all certainly appear to refer to humans. And from the time that the "earth lease" to humanity is up (Revelation 11), God Himself is the One cleansing the earth of all evil influences. I doubt He uses AI to do it. So, depending upon where we are on the prophetic timeline, I can certainly imagine AI playing a role in how the events of Revelation unfold, but I can't see how they'll take center stage. For whatever reason, it doesn't look to me like they'll ever get that far. The Bottom Line We know that in the end times, deception will come. We don't know if AI will be a part of it, but it could be. It's important for us to know the truth, to meditate on the truth, to keep our eyes focused on the truth -- on things above, and not on things beneath (Col 3:2). Don't outsource your thinking to a machine; no matter how "smart" they become, they will never have true wisdom; they can't. That doesn't mean don't use them at all, but if you do, do so cautiously, check the information you receive, and listen to the Holy Spirit in the process, trusting Him to guide you into all truth (John 16:13). Regardless of how rapidly or dramatically the economic landscape and the world around us may change, God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and a sound mind (2 Tim 1:7). Perfect love casts out fear (1 John 4:18), and faith works through love (Gal 5:6). If we know how much God loves us, it becomes easy to not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present our requests to God... and then to fix our minds on whatever is true, noble, just, pure, lovely, of good report, praiseworthy, or virtuous (Phil 4:6-8). He knows the end from the beginning. He's not surprised, and He'll absolutely take care of you in every way, if you trust Him to do it (Matt 6:33-34). Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

As unpalatable as it may be to say out loud, global turmoil is pretty good for business. Shipping CEOs are as happy as shipping CEOs generally get to be.[Sidebar#LL1149672] They are after all a pretty philosophical bunch at heart and they understand that all this has been seen before and will be seen again. They know that unexpected good fortune tends to come with a flipside. What comes up must come down, and every action has an equal and opposite reaction — it's just a question of being able to calculate the Newtonian market forces to know when you are about to get clobbered. All of which is by way of context to the conversation at the heart of this week's edition of the podcast with Stena Bulk president and chief executive Erik Hånell. Hånell talks through his view about the immediate market prospects, but the conversation is about how to deal with uncertainty. As a business leader he needs to take strategic decisions now despite not knowing what lies ahead when it comes to fuels, technology or geopolitical risk. That presents a complex series of challenges.

Today I talked to Peter Hill about his new book Prophet of Reason: Science, Religion and the Origins of the Modern Middle East (Oneworld Academic, 2024). In 1813, high in the Lebanese mountains, a thirteen-year-old boy watches a solar eclipse. Will it foretell a war, a plague, the death of a prince? Mikha'il Mishaqa's lifelong search for truth starts here. Soon he's reading Newtonian science and the radical ideas of Voltaire and Volney: he loses his religion, turning away from the Catholic Church. Thirty years later, as civil war rages in Syria, he finds a new faith – Evangelical Protestantism. His obstinate polemics scandalise his community. Then, in 1860, Mishaqa barely escapes death in the most notorious event in Damascus: a massacre of several thousand Christians. We are presented with a paradox: rational secularism and violent religious sectarianism grew up together. By tracing Mishaqa's life through this tumultuous era, when empires jostled for control, Peter Hill answers the question: What did people in the Middle East actually believe? It's a world where one man could be a Jew, an Orthodox Christian and a Sunni Muslim in turn, and a German missionary might walk naked in the streets of Valletta. Peter Hill is a historian of the modern Middle East, specialising in the Arab world in the long nineteenth century. His research focusses on political thought and practice, the politics of religion, and translation and intercultural exchanges. He also has a strong interest in comparative and global history. Before joining Northumbria University in 2019, Peter was Junior Research Fellow at Christ Church, University of Oxford. He has taught and designed modules in the history of the Middle East and global history, and the history of capitalism. In 2023 he was the winner of a Philip Leverhulme Prize in History. Peter's first book, Utopia and Civilisation in the Arab Nahda, was published by Cambridge University Press in 2020. He has published several articles on translation, political thought and popular politics in the Middle East, in journals such as Past & Present, the Journal of Arabic Literature, and Journal of Global History. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network

Today I talked to Peter Hill about his new book Prophet of Reason: Science, Religion and the Origins of the Modern Middle East (Oneworld Academic, 2024). In 1813, high in the Lebanese mountains, a thirteen-year-old boy watches a solar eclipse. Will it foretell a war, a plague, the death of a prince? Mikha'il Mishaqa's lifelong search for truth starts here. Soon he's reading Newtonian science and the radical ideas of Voltaire and Volney: he loses his religion, turning away from the Catholic Church. Thirty years later, as civil war rages in Syria, he finds a new faith – Evangelical Protestantism. His obstinate polemics scandalise his community. Then, in 1860, Mishaqa barely escapes death in the most notorious event in Damascus: a massacre of several thousand Christians. We are presented with a paradox: rational secularism and violent religious sectarianism grew up together. By tracing Mishaqa's life through this tumultuous era, when empires jostled for control, Peter Hill answers the question: What did people in the Middle East actually believe? It's a world where one man could be a Jew, an Orthodox Christian and a Sunni Muslim in turn, and a German missionary might walk naked in the streets of Valletta. Peter Hill is a historian of the modern Middle East, specialising in the Arab world in the long nineteenth century. His research focusses on political thought and practice, the politics of religion, and translation and intercultural exchanges. He also has a strong interest in comparative and global history. Before joining Northumbria University in 2019, Peter was Junior Research Fellow at Christ Church, University of Oxford. He has taught and designed modules in the history of the Middle East and global history, and the history of capitalism. In 2023 he was the winner of a Philip Leverhulme Prize in History. Peter's first book, Utopia and Civilisation in the Arab Nahda, was published by Cambridge University Press in 2020. He has published several articles on translation, political thought and popular politics in the Middle East, in journals such as Past & Present, the Journal of Arabic Literature, and Journal of Global History. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/history

Bob Wright is an Illinois guy through and through. He grew up just outside of Chicago. Interestingly enough, he decided much of Psychology was balderdash until he spent time in France. He will tell you this fascinating story.   After returning to the states, he took up the subject for some of his Master's Degree work and then beyond. Although he didn't say it in so many words, once he began truly delving into Psychology, he was quite hooked and made aspects of it his career.   He has been coaching for more than 40 years. He also understands sales and led his first sales course in 1981 for a part of Prudential Insurance where he vastly improved the performance of the group.   Bob and I have quite the conversation as you will see. He even analyzes me a bit. We agreed that we will have a second episode later, but first, I will have the opportunity to talk with his wife, Judith, who is deeply involved with Bob's work at all levels. Stay tuned.   About the Guest:   Bob Wright is an internationally recognized speaker, author, and educator. He's a cutting-edge thinker, called upon by top leaders across the country. He coaches Fortune-level CEOS from coast to coast, as well as entrepreneurs. Part of what Bob loves is hitting every level, people that want to make a difference, people who are movers and shakers in the world, that's where his sweet spot is. In fact, he was called one of the top executive coaches by Crain's Chicago business. He led his first sales course in 1981 for Prudential Insurance, for a division of the organization that was ranked 200th out of 2000 nationally—within a month, they shot up to #16.   He is also a dynamic entrepreneur who has founded several successful businesses His first venture, Human Effectiveness, was ranked tops in the country by the Mercer, as well as Arthur Andersen. He sold that business in 1994 to focus on consciousness, maximizing human performance, and the fulfillment of human potential.   He has sold to Fortune level companies from coast to coast, has managed his own sales force, and was one of the first people in the country to develop a Neurolinguistic Programming Training for sales professionals. Likewise, he is the developer of The Wright Model of Human Growth and Development that we will work with this evening. This is a distinct opportunity to learn some concepts from a master who actually developed this and has helped numerous worked with it over time.   Highly respected by major business figures – he has coached and trained leaders who have risen to national prominence in the areas of finance, technology, retirement, economics, compensation, governance, and the list goes on and on. Bob has trained and supported hundreds of sale professionals to higher levels of performance and satisfaction.  It is common for people he supports to triple and even quintuple income while learning to have greater satisfaction and fulfillment in all areas of their lives. His cutting edge approach to selling is empowered by his revolutionary integrative model of human growth and development. Sales people he coaches find themselves enjoying life more, and succeed even in down markets. The people that he has coached and trained over these years are movers and shakers making a major difference in the world today.   Ways to connect with Bob: drbobwright@judithandbob.com https://drbobwright.com/   About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog.   Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards.   https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/   accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/   https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/       Thanks for listening!   Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! 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Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson ** 01:21 Well, hi, welcome once again to unstoppable mindset. We're glad you're here I am your host, Mike hingson. And today we get to talk with Dr. Bob Wright. Bob is by any standard and entrepreneur and I would say very much an unstoppable one. He has started and, and sold many businesses in his life. He actually conducted his first sales course with a division of Prudential insurance in 1981. Now we're starting to pin down his age. And he he made that division go and sales from number 200 In a few weeks to number 16. I liked that. Having been in sales, a lot of my adult life. He loves to coach CEOs and entrepreneurs. And we'll find out what else So Bob, welcome to unstoppable mindset. We're really glad you're here.   Dr. Bob Wright ** 02:13 Thank you so much, Michael, I'm looking forward to talking with you.   Michael Hingson ** 02:18 Well, I really appreciate you taking the time to do this. And as I said, we got to have fun doing it. So I think we'll we'll do that. Tell us a bit about tell us a little bit about the early Bob, you know, growing up and all that sort of stuff that sort of shaped where you went and where you have gone in life?   Dr. Bob Wright ** 02:37 Well, yeah, I was the almost the ultimate good boy. Everything My mom wanted me to be going through high school and then college begin throwing some monkey wrenches in the story. And it wasn't until my sophomore year of college when I went to Germany. And I discovered that the narrow world of wooddale, Illinois was far from all that was the world and that the values I learned there were the only values were not the only values in the world. And it was like this. Consciousness shock.   Michael Hingson ** 03:17 What a concept, right? Yeah.   Dr. Bob Wright ** 03:19 Now where's wooddale? West of O'Hare. Back in the days when Midway was the busiest airport in the world. Yeah, we're about 15 miles west of O'Hare.   Michael Hingson ** 03:30 I have relatives in Genoa and DeKalb. So, and I was born in Chicago, so I'm a little bit familiar with the area, but I don't think I've been to wooddale   Dr. Bob Wright ** 03:41 Oh, you've probably been through it if you know, Park Road. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 03:45 I might have very well been through it. Well, I live for my first five years on the south side of Chicago 5017 Union, and it's changed a lot since we moved in 1955. So that's okay, though. Things do need to change. It makes it makes for an interesting world otherwise, so where did you go to college?   Dr. Bob Wright ** 04:06 Oh, well, I started at Lawrence in Appleton, Wisconsin. Ah, I went to school in Germany. Left Lawrence came back to the quarter at the College of DuPage. west of Chicago, graduated with my bachelor's from the University of Illinois, Chicago in sociology, because that was the subject that gave me the most credits and everything else I had done in my life. And so then I went to school, in in, in France after that, and that blew my mind even further. I mean, just horrendously drew mind blew my mind even further. Because I was always looking for what I thought of as ultimate truth. And the French experience just was the mind blowing, launch in some ways of my, my my life   Michael Hingson ** 05:04 a lot different than even Germany, right? Well, it was different   Dr. Bob Wright ** 05:08 than Germany and I had a database. The irony is that I'm in something that people think of as psychology, positive psychology, performance psychology, I think of it as my research in my life work as optimizing adult development. And going into high school, there was this really, you know, good counselor, we thought that my friends went to see. And I was already kind of against counselors because the the social worker and the grade school my mom's friend, and she would be sitting in our kitchen crying in our coffee about boyfriends every Saturday morning. And so I was going already these people are pretty darn weird. But my friends start seeing this woman, and and she starts telling these best, brightest kids in high school that they're latent ly suicidal. And they go, Whoa, this is really sick. Oh, stuff. And so then I was rapidly against psychology. Now, the rest of that story that is public domain, is there a husband was this guidance counselor down the road, Irving Park Road, another 20 some odd miles at Lake Park High School, they were a murder suicide. He boy, so that's nailed down my assumption. This is all inland as sickos know, I'm in school in France, and I'm going to study phenomenology. But my in six months, my French wasn't good enough to understand philosophy classes. So I ended up taking psychology classes, I could understand them. They were an English, that got me into group dynamics, which led to the rest of the story that I have discovered, there are well Valid Elements of psychology. And it is really the people not the discipline. That was the problem back then. So   Michael Hingson ** 07:07 they weren't all just sickos after all? I   Dr. Bob Wright ** 07:11 don't think so. Either that or you joined the ranks? No, no, no, not at all. But the profession in search of validity for a long time, right, so profoundly insecure? Well, it's   Michael Hingson ** 07:23 a it's a tough subject, because a lot of it is is so I'm not quite sure how to describe it. It's so nebulous, it's so much that you can't really just pin it down and define it. You're dealing with emotions, you're dealing with people's attitudes, and so on. And that's really pretty nebulous, it's really kind of hard to just define it in so many words. Yeah,   Dr. Bob Wright ** 07:51 if we don't go to human experience, then we'd have nothing. But you've got to figure back in the 50s and 60s and 70s, the humanistic psychology movement was transforming businesses, or Life magazine had an issue that said, sooner or later, everybody's going to be an encounter group at their church or somewhere else. And so what what happened was, they still never tied that up to performance. And so you fast forward, and you get a guy named Goldman who bring in Oh, psychology, so wanted to be as science. And he starts out with positive psychology. He denies everything before, which is just absolutely not true. He and I are similar ages, and we grew up breathing those things. But positive psychology now has a deep research base that is becoming less and less nebulous, whether it's the emotional part with Frederick SENS Research, or his his part with other positive psychology research. So it's kind of cool, what's happening. And it just, unfortunately, doesn't include what happened before because it was so thoroughly attacked.   Michael Hingson ** 08:58 Well, and it's, it's an evolutionary process, right. Yeah, you got it. Yeah. Which is, which is exactly the issue. And that's, that's true of a lot of sciences. I mean, we can go back and look at physics and look at any any of the sciences and they've evolved over the years for a long time, classical mechanics, was it everything fit Newtonian law, but then we discovered that well, it's not quite that way, especially when you get closer to the speed of light. A lot of things change, but also, attitudes and philosophies of of sciences have have changed. So what you're saying certainly is no surprise, psychology as a science, social science or whatever, is still a pretty new science by comparison. So you're   Dr. Bob Wright ** 09:47 obviously a science guy more than I knew. And so, did you read Boones structures of Scientific Revolutions a long time ago. So that is where the term is. Trent was a sap perspective transformation, a new paradigm. That's yeah, he coined the term paradigm as we use it today. And he's in particular talking about the disconnect between Newtonian physics and einsteinium physics. And that gets us down to all the different paradigms, because a paradigm is a shift in knowledge. And the paradigm that psychology is wrestling with, is the shift from pathology and problems to potential and realizing making real our potential. Right.   Michael Hingson ** 10:35 And again, still, that is a harder thing to quantify them what you can do with a lot of physics, we also know that Einsteinian physics doesn't go far enough, but it's what we know, or what we have known. And again, we're evolving, but in the case of what you're talking about, it's a lot harder to pin down and put an exact number two, which is what also makes it a little bit more of a challenge. And we need to learn better how to define that, and communicate it as we move forward.   Dr. Bob Wright ** 11:03 Well, you know, that's the bind of pure research, but I've got a slightly different perspective on this. So what we measure our success against is the total quality of somebody's life, their relationships, their work, their personal concept, and their spiritual and their service to our world. And so in our work, now, our foundation is closing down in December, sadly, because we didn't survive COVID. But we had more than 90% of our students felt that they were living with a higher sense of purpose and spiritual integration. They tended to make more money by 30% or more in the first year of working with us. And and the divorce rate in our advanced couples was under 4%. And in the entire school, was under 9%. The last time we took a survey on that. So when if you've got the elements that typical markers of a quality of life, looking there, and they their self esteem was higher, people gave them comments that they looked better, and even commented to a lot of them that they look younger. So if you take those variables, we're now starting to find something for which everyone is reaching, whether it's better relationship, more money, more career fulfillment, or more contribution to the world, we help you be more you. And our core assumption is, then you will automatically grow in all those areas, the mistake so many disciplines make is they forget that the core element of that entire formula is the individual. And if we can help the individual optimize their self them themselves, then they are going to automatically begin shifting how they operate in those areas and get stronger and stronger in directions that are more satisfying, fulfilling, fulfilling and contributory to our world. By   Michael Hingson ** 12:52 definition. Yeah.   12:54 Isn't that cool?   Michael Hingson ** 12:55 Which makes a lot of sense. Well, some for you. You went on and got a doctorate and so on. But when you when you started coaching, I guess really the question is what got you into the whole environment of applied integrative psychology and coaching? What what really got you there? Okay,   Dr. Bob Wright ** 13:16 so, remember, we have a totally anti psychology, right? I have a taste of what we called existential psychology and group dynamics in France. So when I came back from France, I looked for the strongest program to get more training. And it was training in, in all the existential application of Gestalt transactional analysis. And the various body works and things of the time. And I studied those, I became a trainer in those. And it was wonderful to watch people learn and grow. But you still couldn't make a lot of money that way. So I went back to school and got an MSW and I, my goal was to be a therapist, therapist, and my partner Bob Kaufman was my supervisor and my MSW. And we built a business called human effectiveness. And by the mid 80s, we were doing 300 services a week, a third of whom were psychology types. And, and so that was my retirement goal. And in addition to that, we were leading in a lot of ways in what was called employee assistance and manage psychiatric care. And we were doing consulting and training, which is where you heard the story about Prudential. And so that was kind of the way to make money doing it and get licensed because I knew I was good at helping people and I just wanted the easiest and quickest license to get and that was an MSW   Michael Hingson ** 14:49 said then you got that and what did you do?   Dr. Bob Wright ** 14:51 So human effectiveness was our was our business from the 1979 To 1994.   Michael Hingson ** 15:02 And that was a business you started human effectiveness. Yeah. And   Dr. Bob Wright ** 15:05 so we had a very unique model of therapy using individual and group off of what Bob postle called contemporary Adlerian. Therapy. And we developed that more and more and more. And we started getting higher and higher functioning clients. And our clients were moving way beyond the therapy ideal. Their lives were taking off in all the areas we've discussed. And we started that we're doing well, in 82, we hired a PhD, you have to be dissertation approved, PhD from Yale, they had him start doing consumer research, found out that people loved what they were getting one time, near the mid 80s, I had a two year waiting list. And so when we asked our clients what was going on, and they said, We love it, but you're not telling us everything they wanted to know. And my first master's, which was in communications, was helping people in a psychiatric hospital, oriented to that psychiatric hospital. And so, what what, I've always been a consumer guy, and so we started putting together seminars to help our clients understand what was going on. So that changed our model, from individual group to seminars to training them, we did more and more research and they kept telling us more and more of what they wanted. So the model eventually, included Alfred Adler, existential developmental Albert Adler's areas of life, existential principles, and developmental levels, all in an axis of consciousness, helping people grow their consciousness, awareness and responsibility in life. And so those seminars were training people, many of whom could analyze their own life situation and strategize better than licensed psychologist. So we begin, we begin going, why why aren't people getting credit for this. So that's why we started graduate school on the road. And I left the therapy metaphor in 91. We started working towards developing our model in our seminars to be more and more effective with Judith in 9495, which led to the right foundation for the realization of human potential, and the right graduate university for the realization of human potential, offering master's and doctoral degrees in transformational leadership and coaching. We even got an MBA credited. Now that is, now that the foundation is closing down at Maharishi University in Iowa. So the program goes on. But the foundation is no longer running   Michael Hingson ** 17:40 it. And Judith is   Dr. Bob Wright ** 17:43 Judith and I are stepping into what we think is our ultimate mission is couples, couples, and helping people come become more conscious, responsible, satisfied in service filled couples. And so we're kicking that off in January.   Michael Hingson ** 17:58 And how long have you guys been together?   Dr. Bob Wright ** 18:02 We got married in 81. So it's 42 years or two years? Yeah. Wow.   Michael Hingson ** 18:08 Well, you have beat Karen and me by a year. But as I think I told you, she passed away last year. So we were married for two years and loved it and lots of memories. But I can appreciate the fact that you guys have made it work. And you've also worked together, which is as good as it gets. Yeah,   Dr. Bob Wright ** 18:28 so so the last two books we've written together, and to understand so the last book is called battling to Bliss. The couple's Guide to 15 Common fights, what they really mean how they can bring you closer. So our previous book called transformed. We had one paragraph as we were driving back from Texas to Illinois, that we fought over for probably an hour. And Judith has this wonderful mind. And I just, I'm the one that pushes things to get done. So I said that that sentence is good enough. She says, No, that sentence doesn't work with this. I'm going to come on down it. So she wins that sentence. And she wins. She ended up winning all four sentences. But I ended up winning and moving on. So movement is more my specialty and accuracy and depth is well we both do depth is Judith. So battling to Bliss is really about people people think fights are a problem. They don't understand fights are a symptom that you're dealing in, that you're working on becoming a better stronger couple together.   Michael Hingson ** 19:36 Yeah, and so there's nothing wrong with disagreeing as long as you eventually work together and recognize what you're doing and need to do. So. You're both one which is what it's really all about.   Dr. Bob Wright ** 19:50 Amen. You got it. So you develop   Michael Hingson ** 19:54 this thing you call the right model of human growth and development. And that's I guess what you're basically alluding to in the early 1990s? Well, I actually   Dr. Bob Wright ** 20:05 had Scott started with that research in 1982. And it developed. So the first thing we did was help people vision. Now, the work from Dr. Boyd says that Case Western is that vision is way more important than goals. So we'd have people write a vision in seven areas of life and measure their progress against that every four months. And they go, Wow, man, we're growing twice as fast. But you're still not telling us everything. We said? Well, the truth of the matter is, we think of you developmentally and we're seeking to help you develop in ways that you didn't get developed are all like plants that never got perfect nourishment. And we're helping you fill in those things. And so that led to a developmental axis of consciousness for them. And then we did another round of research. And they said, we're still not telling you said anything. We said, Well, the truth of the matter is, we're existentialists. And we, we just think if you're fully present in here, now you'll learn you'll grow, and you'll become the best you you can become. And so that brought in an existential aspect about the here and now, people engaging. And it's all driven by what we call the assignment way of living, which was started by Bob postal, who was part of the Alfred Adler Institute in Chicago back in the 1970s.   Michael Hingson ** 21:24 Okay, so but you developed it, and is that what you use in the the coaching that you did? And that you do?   Dr. Bob Wright ** 21:33 That? Absolutely. I'm working with. I'm working with an attorney who's shifting professions now, from law to coaching. And so what I do periodically is help her understand when she has a win. How did that win, take her on a step forward in her development, and then I help her understand how that win actually can be leveraged if she will have the discipline to keep doing it. Most. There's a thing called neuroplasticity. And most of the world is a little bit over in love with it. Because thinking oh, yeah, we can automatically change No, it takes 1000s of repetitions. So help her understand a vision of what it's going to mean to consistently redo that way of doing things. She challenges unconscious limiting beliefs, because our program was pretty much done by age seven, we are living out a self fulfilling prophecy off of our early programming. If we don't do things to transform, we can learn and grow. But transforming is the challenge.   Michael Hingson ** 22:39 Yeah, so what's the difference between growth and transforming?   Dr. Bob Wright ** 22:45 We're working on that for the founder of an incredible Japanese coaching group called coach a and his name is Ito son. And, and so learning is knowing something I didn't know before. Growing is doing something I've never done before. But in Judas research, the people who are in touch with their deeper yearning, engage more, and they learn more, it reveals to them regulating their limiting beliefs and their skill deficits. And it also causes them to share with other people that causes them to begin challenging their limiting beliefs. And so learning and growing can be yearning, it can be learned, knowing things and doing things who would have never done we call that liberating. When you're doing things you never would have done. Transforming requires that you pray that you that you strategically do new things in the direction that will consistently challenge some of your unconscious limiting patterns. If you think about what we have our neural pathways imagine we have a neural highway. And everything we do runs along that neural highway. But we want to cut a take a shorter road from Highway A to highway B. So we go into the jungle. Well, we get into the jungle halfway and we look back, we can't even see where we've gone. To get to highway B, we may get to highway B, but we will find out how to get back to Highway A. So we're still going to be doing the same thing. So we the first level of of as we think about it of transformation, neuro transformation is going back and forth along that path enough that we can see where we've been and we can repeat it. Then we have to widen that path. And we have to turn it into a well trodden path. And eventually if it becomes a superhighway, we have transformed and we are doing things that we never could have done before.   Michael Hingson ** 24:49 How do you get people to really overcome their limiting beliefs what what is it that you do as a coach that brings people maybe To that aha moment, and maybe it isn't quite so dramatic, maybe it isn't that at all, but it's more subtle, but how do you get people to the point where they recognize, oh, maybe it's not really quite what we thought, because not everybody's gonna go to France. Okay,   Dr. Bob Wright ** 25:16 so first of all, none of us has ever done. So I'm still dealing with my own limiting beliefs, and, and building new neural pathways the same way. But there's a way we start is what we call an Adlerian Lifestyle Analysis, Alfred Adler helped people understand there are perceptions, the unconscious beliefs that guide us, we have empowering our perceptions, limiting beliefs, empowering beliefs, that we we have limiting beliefs is our language for the limiting perceptions in Adlerian terms. And so when we understand that most of those were installed, by the time we were seven, we can do a lifetime and Adlerian lifestyle analysis that will help you understand your early programming in a way that can empower your growth the rest of your life or inform your growth the rest of your life and your learning and ultimate transformation.   Michael Hingson ** 26:15 Okay, and how do people perceive that?   Dr. Bob Wright ** 26:21 Well, the first time I experienced it was in front of a room of maybe 50 therapists. And it was a demonstration by Bob postal, the Adlerian, I mentioned. And I went up front. And in about 1510 minutes, I'm bawling my eyes out, as he's basically telling me my life story in ways that were profoundly true that I had never imagined. And most, most people except the most defensive, are blown away, that it can be that easily accessed.   Michael Hingson ** 26:54 So, alright, so he, he demonstrated that he knew you better than you thought he knew you and perhaps better than you knew yourself, then what?   Dr. Bob Wright ** 27:05 Well, first of all, he called it like mind reading. And it's what it feels like it feels like he's talking to somebody who's doing mind reading, and Bob postal it, boiled it down to like seven questions. Your birth order is super important in how you look for affection and affirmation in life. If you're the firstborn, did you win? Did you maintain what Adler called a position of primacy? Or were you overrun by a second, third or fourth born? In which case, that's a terrible blow to your self esteem? And so, how we negotiate birth order is probably the most important element of that. And then there are other elements, like who was mom's favorite? Who was dad's favorite? And we get everybody you know, most 90 90% of people say, Oh, no, my mom and dad, they were equal. That's absolute horse manure. And so what we get to that by is who is most like dad, who was most like, mom? And if you were in the zoo, walking and looking at things who would mom who would be holding Mom's hand and who would be holding Dad's hand? And then once we get to larger families, it gets even more complex?   Michael Hingson ** 28:15 How do you deal with that? And I asked that, knowing that in my family, of course, I was blind, I was the second child. And I think my brother always felt like he wasn't quite as well received, even though he was two years older. But in reality, when I look back on it, what my parents did was really worked, not to show favoritism, but they did have to do things differently with me than they did with him because he could see, and I didn't, but I think they really worked at it. But I think his perception always was that he wasn't the favorite, even though that I don't think that really was the case as I sit and analyze it even now.   Dr. Bob Wright ** 29:03 Well, you know, he may not have been wrong. He might not have been got more attention. So the primary indicator of a favorite is attention. It doesn't necessarily mean for what, because you get seen more, you get more interest more, you develop a sense that you matter. And he's developing a sense that he doesn't matter. So in Adlerian terms, you may have overrun him, and that was a terrible blow to his self esteem.   Michael Hingson ** 29:33 Yeah. Yeah. Even though this Oh, sure. If you want   Dr. Bob Wright ** 29:38 go ahead. So how's he doing today?   Michael Hingson ** 29:40 He passed away in 2015. So he died of of cancer.   Dr. Bob Wright ** 29:45 How did he do in life? Well,   Michael Hingson ** 29:47 fair question. He ended up working for the Customs Organization, the US customs in communications. He was married for, gosh, probably close to 40 years as well. I'm not sure that he was as happy as he would like, just in looking at it. He tended to want to be very controlling. And his wife didn't have a problem with that. But I think that I think there were some issues, but I think he did. Okay, but not great.   Dr. Bob Wright ** 30:28 So you've been happier in life than he has, even though you have a profound challenge. Well,   Michael Hingson ** 30:35 I think the challenge is more perceptual than in reality, but Yeah, probably. That's it.   Dr. Bob Wright ** 30:41 Thanks very much.   Michael Hingson ** 30:44 That's probably so.   Dr. Bob Wright ** 30:47 But I also so your dad overran him. Yeah, I   Michael Hingson ** 30:51 hear you. You did. Even though we even though later in life, he was in Florida, and I was in California, or in New Jersey. I think I appreciate what you're saying. Yeah.   Dr. Bob Wright ** 31:05 Yeah, it's it's hard for us to accept when we start looking at these unconscious elements of what's called the family system. And and the system is there's no blame. There's no blaming. Yeah. But But who is your mom's favorite?   Michael Hingson ** 31:21 Well, I'm sure that that there are those that would say it was me. I'm not, I'm not really so sure. Because the way my mom interacted with us, was was different with each of us. She had to help me learn braille again, when I was going from third to fourth grade. And she took the time to do that. But she also did take the time with my brother, but I'm sure that he would tell you that I was,   Dr. Bob Wright ** 31:48 well, what was your dad's favorite? Oh,   Michael Hingson ** 31:53 I'm sure that, that my dad and I spent more time together because I was interested in things that he was much more than my brother like electronics and science. So I'm sure I   Dr. Bob Wright ** 32:02 was, who was murdered?   Michael Hingson ** 32:06 Gee, that depends, I guess, on everything, but probably I was. Nobody ever wants to answer this, by the way, probably. But probably for a lot of reasons. I would say I was. Yeah,   Dr. Bob Wright ** 32:15 pretty obviously. So we don't know what his potential would have been. Right, who got developed? And so my guess is he was actually your mom's favorite. He might very well have been. But But I think it was your mom's favorite because your mom counted on him to keep things working in the family while he was hungry, but didn't didn't know how to do anything. But please her as she was ministering to you. And as your dad was enjoying playing with you? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure there's   Michael Hingson ** 32:50 a lot of there's a lot of truth to that.   Dr. Bob Wright ** 32:52 Yeah, I know. I just, it's so much fun to get out of this. Michael. Yeah. It   Michael Hingson ** 32:59 makes a lot of sense to, to really look at it in the in the way that you're doing. But I think there's there's another aspect of it, and it's part of human nature, that gets to be a challenge. Because he was probably a person who felt not as happy, not as loved and didn't know how to deal with that, and maybe address it in his own life. And I learned how to do some of that, and learn how to deal with a lot of the challenges that I faced socially, and, and economically. But I think that one of the things that he never did learn was how to go back and look at himself and look at his life and grow in the same way. Yeah,   Dr. Bob Wright ** 33:50 amen. Probably wasn't as inquisitive as you know,   Michael Hingson ** 33:54 I'm sure he was not. That I'm very sure of. And it's it is a it's an issue because one of the things that I maintain today is that all of us can do so much more to grow. If we would spend more time even just in the evening before we go to sleep, being introspective, looking at whatever happened on a given day. And why it happened the way it did, what could we improve? What went great, what could we even have done to make what went great greater? And I know that he didn't do a lot of that,   Dr. Bob Wright ** 34:28 you know, there's actually a spiritual discipline with the max handle Rosicrucians that, that goes into that. I'm not a follower of theirs, but this they call it a retro flexion or retrospect, I forget what they call it. Exactly. Because when I was in school in France, the game was the minute your head hit the pillow. You were to rewind your day in reverse to when you first woke up. Yeah, and it's incredibly challenging. It is our emotions get I get sparked off, we get to see where we had unfinished business during the day. And it took me all of pretty close to a year before I got back to a morning, and that was pretty diligence, did diligent application. And so I think you're absolutely right.   Michael Hingson ** 35:23 There's a lot of value in in doing it. Because no one can teach us anything people can give us information. But we have to teach ourselves. And I've learned, even just this year, I now hate calling myself my own worst critic. When I listen to speeches and other things I always have said, I'm my own worst critic, and when in reality is the case is I'm my own best teacher, because I'm the one that can teach me. And it's always good to take a much more positive approach. And recognizing that actually helps when I go back and analyze the day and analyze the things that have gone on. Because I look for the lessons. And the lessons aren't just in the things that went wrong or the difficult things. The lessons can come from anywhere, but we have to look for them.   Dr. Bob Wright ** 36:08 So you just defined the transformation of a perfectionist, perfectionist, criticized because it's the work outcome that matters. And people that are learning and growing and stepping beyond perfection. Look for the lessons. So you just described you growing, from avoiding mistakes, to feeling more and more success and satisfaction in learning and growing. Congratulations. Well, thank   Michael Hingson ** 36:37 you. And even the so called Mistakes You know, there aren't they're not a mistake until it ended up being one. And again, the lesson is, what do you learn and do about it? Yeah,   Dr. Bob Wright ** 36:46 but you're unusual, Michael, because you've actually taken a philosophy and applied it. A lot of people would say the same things you just said. But they don't practice it. I believe you practice it.   Michael Hingson ** 36:58 And you know what? It's fun.   Dr. Bob Wright ** 37:01 It says pretty clear. Yeah. You have fun way before now. Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 37:05 Well, I like to look for the for fun. Personally, I think life is an adventure. For years, I've called the Internet, a treasure trove an adventure. And yeah, there's a lot of stuff. And there's a dark side. And there are all sorts of different things that go on. But there's also so much information that's out there if we bought look for it and use it. Amen. So it really, it really helps a great deal. And you know, so it's, it's worth doing well, in your case. So, you you have been so what business do you own? Now? What What's your business called? Or do you have one right now? Well,   Dr. Bob Wright ** 37:47 we write business Inc has been our flowthrough business forever. But we are reemerging to the world as live right? Li ve WRI ght with Judith and Bob. That is our new go to market identity. Pool.   Michael Hingson ** 38:07 That's a great name. And certainly, from a marketing standpoint, one that somebody can remember.   Dr. Bob Wright ** 38:14 Well, right now we only exist online is D r B o b.com. And Dr. Judith, Bob Wright, dot com or Judith wright.com I think or at any rate, we don't have a joint website yet. We'll be launching that in December, God Willing and the creek don't rise   Michael Hingson ** 38:35 well and make it accessible. And if you want help with that, I can help   Dr. Bob Wright ** 38:41 you. So so cool. Cool. I'm gonna have to find out more about what you can do them. Because I really don't know,   Michael Hingson ** 38:48 we can talk about that. And we can talk about ways to do it. And it's and it's something that that you should do. Because the reality is what most people don't realize is that the cost of doing business should really make sure that inclusion is part of it. You know, I when looking for jobs and talking to many, I'll just use blind people as an example. We've had companies say but I can't buy a screen reader for you. That's not in our budget. Well, you know, sure it is you buy computer monitors for everyone. I don't need a monitor. But I do need a screen reader. Inclusion ought to be part of the cost of doing business.   Dr. Bob Wright ** 39:26 Well, which is why you're going to be our consultants. So we our desire is to have our work available in all languages. We're going to be putting out our couples book the heart of the fight in Spanish. The heart of the fight reached number one nonfiction best seller in China, Judas soft addictions solution is, as of our last knowledge, number 10 self help in China. And so the languages aren't just words and spoken are they but there's I mean, there's there's what do you call blind accessibility? Michael?   Michael Hingson ** 40:06 Well, there are a couple of ways to do something like that. A lot of it is just doing the right things on on your website, or when you produce a book, if you have graphs, they should and pictures, they should be defined. You can do an electronic version, you can do an audio version. And there are ways also to put the book in Braille. And again, we can we can certainly talk about that. Well,   Dr. Bob Wright ** 40:28 I'm zipping myself an email to circle back with you on that. So let's keep going with what you've got today.   Michael Hingson ** 40:36 Well, definitely one thing I need to say, because I was looking for when I was getting ready for now, is I would like to have pictures of your book covers that we can put in the cover notes so that people can go off and find them later.   Dr. Bob Wright ** 40:51 We'll get it. Perfect.   Michael Hingson ** 40:53 Well, tell me a little bit more about you and coaching. What ultimately do people get out of what you do? After a question,   Dr. Bob Wright ** 41:07 you know, I'm gonna go back a little further, we get everybody knows we get what we put into things. Yeah. And so to get   Michael Hingson ** 41:16 the most out of coke, good psychological answer, go ahead.   Dr. Bob Wright ** 41:19 Well, I'm actually going to answer it. I appreciate the work up to I'm gonna work up to it. So the investment is time, money and personal upset. The price most people are not willing to pay is the person will upset we have to do to stretch beyond our own serious limit deeper mental limitations. And when we do that, for me, I had a lot of limiting beliefs about money. I could give you stories, we talked about the mythology rules, myths and beliefs about money when I looked growing up, my dad's brothers, who had way more money than we had, didn't have a marriage as good as my dad's marriage. And one of my dad's brothers was a particular jerk. And he was the wealthiest of them. And so I draw this conclusion from early on in life, because we all grew up within miles of each other, or blocks, actually, that it's either money or relationship. So a limiting belief I've had to challenge forever, is money and relationship. And fortunately, I'm making some progress on that and intend to make even more before I'm done. Well,   Michael Hingson ** 42:37 it's interesting. People think that if they have a lot of money, they're successful, and they're happy. And what pops into my mind? And I'm not going to try to get political here. But what pops into my mind is Donald Trump, I wonder how happy he really is.   Dr. Bob Wright ** 42:54 You know, we can actually dive right into the happiness things. First of all, there's a lot of research on it that would show that he doesn't have the characteristics. But that's another story. But right, I hear you. But I think everybody has a formula for happiness, most of them are wrong. Yeah. And I think the good fortune in my relationship foundation is relationship. You know that happiness research says, the biggest variable is learning and growing. The happiest people are engaged in learning and growing. There, they have New Horizons coming up, that they can learn and grow together and a couple or whatever they're doing, but they learn and grow. That's happiest.   Michael Hingson ** 43:33 That's the most successful thing that one can do. And it is all about learning and growing, and wanting to learn and grow. And I think he pointed out very well, a lot of people will provide lip service to a lot of this. But the reality is, they're not really growing. It's just a lot of talk. Habits are hard to break it. I've heard all sorts of different numbers about how many times you need to do something to change a habit. But still, ultimately, it doesn't happen until you can, not only intellectually but emotionally recognize that the change needs to happen and then do it.   Dr. Bob Wright ** 44:15 So that's that's the end the cost. So Judas seminal work on soft addictions was looking at the cost that turned out causes a lot of people to take on the habits. However, a habit is a behavior to order to change the deeper level behind that habit. Because they have, it's always doing something for us in service of a limiting belief. And so a limiting habits because we remember two kinds of beliefs, two kinds of habits, empowering and disempowering. And so it's really important to understand, if I really want to learn and grow to the max, I have to go through the discomfort of not just changing the habit, but changing by myself my thoughts, feelings and actions at the foundational level   Michael Hingson ** 44:59 and that's The cost. Yes, sir. And it's it's not as expensive as one might think, if you really apply it and do it. But the problem is, so many of us don't want to do that, because we're just, I hate hearing while I'm, you know, people are in their comfort zone, they don't want to change. We talk about change all the time. But I think people don't want to change I think we we are brought up to just like our comfort zones and not wanting to change, we don't do what we talked about before retrospection or introspection, that's too much work. And so we we don't get taught by others nearly as much as we should. The real value of change, but change is all around us. And change is going to be everywhere. I after September 11, I kept hearing, we got to get back to normal, we got to get back to doing things the normal way. And I bristled at that. And it took me a little while to understand why I was so upset with it. But I finally realized, normal will never be the same. Again, we can't get back to normal because if we do, we're going to have the same thing. And we will have learned absolutely nothing. Even with a pandemic, I hear about getting back to normal, but normal will never be the same again, the   Dr. Bob Wright ** 46:17 problem that you're getting it from me that I think about with that usually is that normal is is average, and none of us really want to be average, we want to be better than normal. So why would we want to get back to normal when we still haven't hit our potential? Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 46:36 But we're not thinking about that. And we haven't learned to think in that way. Until we   Dr. Bob Wright ** 46:41 understand Judith research. So there's yearning, engaging, and regulating seeing where my limitations come in. Then liberating challenging those limitations. It's so challenging those limitations, and then re matrixing. And then I have to keep stretching myself towards the new, further goals. That forced me to look beyond my limiting beliefs, because they're always there. And they're always are rising beyond them.   Michael Hingson ** 47:07 How do we get people to be able to do that?   Dr. Bob Wright ** 47:10 I don't, we don't get people to do anything. It's all about investment. Will they pay the price? Spend the time reading the money, what they need to do? I was talking to a guy today who's ultra ultra wealthy, who started out with my former partner. And he would never have been able to pay my partner's rates today. And I said, You mean, you wouldn't have charged it on your credit card at least to find out? You know, what he could do for you? And so the people that I see that really want it, some people just charge it on the credit card, but they don't do it. Others? Do, they charge it on the credit card, and they've got that credit card paid off and are able to really fly with the overtime? Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 48:00 so and I was delivered and asking the question the way I did, but it isn't how do we get people to do things? What is it that will make people understand that they need to change? I mean, you've been coaching a long time. And I know there's not one key but what, what, more often than not is the trigger that make people go, Ah, I gotta really think more about this.   Dr. Bob Wright ** 48:27 You know, there are a lot of things in life traumas, car accidents, deaths, losses, that move people into that. There's a thing called a sociopath is sociopaths, not wanting to get divorced, will sometimes start looking at themselves for the first time. And so but but I think that, that Adlerian analysis, when people understand that there is an objective way to look at who they are today, it's your strengths and your weaknesses, as revealed by that lifestyle analysis we started playing with with you, then as you understand that there really is a way to do it, and it is systematic and reproducible, then the game starts really shifting, but most of the world doesn't believe it's possible because so many people are selling so much horse manure. Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 49:21 And we haven't learned to separate all the negative negativity in as you said, the horsemen or from from the positive stuff, we, we just haven't really learned how to do that and the people who have can really start to deal with it. One of the things that I have experienced over the past several years, especially with the pandemic is that for years I would travel and speak and tell people about my story and people said, well, you're blind. Of course you didn't know what happened. I point out well, the airplane had 18 floors above us on the other side of the building I got to tell you, nobody knew Superman and X ray vision are fictitious. Right? Well, but then the the other part about it is that what I realized over time was that the reason I wasn't afraid was that I prepared. I learned all about the World Trade Center, I learned what the emergency evacuation procedures were, I learned why they were as they were. And so when something actually happened, I was prepared for it. I didn't need to worry about reading signs. And if I had been in the building alone, I would have just been able to evacuate. But I wasn't alone. And we got some guests out. And then a colleague who was in from our corporate office, David Frank, and I went to the stairs, and we started down. But the reality is that what I learned was that for me, I, in fact, was not talking about why I wasn't afraid. And I didn't teach people how to learn to control here. So we're writing a book about that. And, and so I'm, I'm realizing that what I can help people do is recognize that you can learn to control fear, it's not that it's going to go away. And if you tell me, you're never afraid, I won't buy it. But you can learn to use fear in a powerful way, rather than letting it as I put it, blind you or overwhelm you,   Dr. Bob Wright ** 51:27 by preparing as you prepared the primary formula. First of all, we don't control it. But by preparing it doesn't grip us at the same level. We have pathways that we've already created. So you had created those pathways inside of yourself. And so sure you were afraid, but you had the fear motivating you along pathways for which you had prepared.   Michael Hingson ** 51:51 That's right. Help others. That's right. And we did and at one point going down the stairs, David panicked and said, Mike, we're going to die. We're not going to make it out of here and then and I just snapped at him. I'd love to joke about it and say, since I have a secondary teaching credential, I took that secret course voice 101 How to yell at students but you know, the the reality is that that what I did it I just snapped at David. I said, stop it, David, if Rosella and I can go down the stairs, so can you. And after that, he said, I'm going to I got to take my mind off of what's going on. And he walked the floor below me, went all the way down the stairs, he shouted up to me what he was seeing on the stairs. Now, did I need David to do that? No. But I knew that it would help David be more comfortable. But it had another effect, which again, was something that I figured out later. And that is that, as David was shouting up, hey, I'm at the 44th floor. This is where the Port Authority cafeteria is, we're not going to stop we're going on down. People above us. And below us. Many, many floors hurt him. And he gave them something to focus on. And I think that he did so much, not even thinking about it or realizing it to help people not panic as we went down the stairs, which was so cool. Oh, I   Dr. Bob Wright ** 53:07 just love it. So let's but let's go back. So, So fear is the primary the most basic emotion if you stay alive, sure. So you were afraid for him, not for you, but for him. And so you slapped him out of it. So you harvest your anger. So fear, fear, hurt, anger, sadness, and joy are the critical emotions that are fully foundational emotions. And so you have a relationship with your fear as few of us but in some ways, maybe. And you actually were able to harness anger as the crossover emotion between fear and joy. So you kept him alive, harnessing your anger to slap him out of it. And he became the leader he could become. Yeah. And needed.   Michael Hingson ** 53:56 Right. Well, and that's it's part of the story that that I think is he's such an unsung hero and what happened on September 11, because I know he had to keep so many people focused because they had someone to focus on. And someone who they could hear who was all right, no matter where they were on the stairs. Somebody else was okay, somewhere.   Dr. Bob Wright ** 54:21 So first of all, he was a leader right in relationship to you,   Michael Hingson ** 54:25 by definition. Well, in some ways, yeah.   Dr. Bob Wright ** 54:29 So you slapped him back into his leadership mode. And even though you didn't need it, he started leaving you in his own mind, but he was actually leaving everybody down those   Michael Hingson ** 54:40 steps. He was, you know, that was one of the things that he did his he was only in for the day from our corporate office. But but he but you know, the two of us, between us there were a lot of ways people also said to me later, we followed you down the stairs because we heard you praising your dog and We heard you staying calm. So we were calm. We followed you. Yeah. So we, in a in a very well, unpredictable isn't the right word but a very subtle way we the two of us really helped a lot of people. Oh   Dr. Bob Wright ** 55:15 my god, you guys formed the most amazing impromptu leadership team.   Michael Hingson ** 55:19 Right. Holy cow. I   Dr. Bob Wright ** 55:21 love it. Yeah. Well, isn't that cool? Oh, it's beyond cool. That is way beyond Cool.   Michael Hingson ** 55:27 Well, this has been fun. We need to do it again. And we need to get Judith involved. So we got to do   Dr. Bob Wright ** 55:33 another one of these. Absolutely looking forward to it. But   Michael Hingson ** 55:37 I really appreciate you being here. And I want to thank you and I want to thank you all for listening to us today. I hope that you enjoyed it. And and you heard Bob analyze me a little bit and it was a lot of fun and No, no problem at all. So we'll have to do more of it and and have another time together which I think would be fun. But I want to thank you for listening to us. Love to hear your comments. Please reach out. You can reach me Mike hingson at and my email address is Michael h i m i c h a e l h i at accessiBe A c c e s s i b e.com. Michael h i at accessibe.com Or go to our podcast page www dot Michael Hingson m i c h a e l h i n g s o n.com/podcast love to get your thoughts please give us a five star rating wherever you're listening to us. We value that and really appreciate all that you have to say. Bob if people want to reach out to you how do they do that?   Dr. Bob Wright ** 56:37 Well my website for now until we put them all together is Bob Wrightdot com or D r. B o b W r i  g h t dot com My email, which is easier right now we're in transition. The new company, as you heard will be live right with Judith and Bob. But right now D r. B, o b at Judith and bob.com D R B O B at J U D I T  A N D B .com. Cool.   Michael Hingson ** 57:04 Well, thanks again for doing this. It has been fun. And let us definitely set up another time and do another one of these.   Dr. Bob Wright ** 57:13 We've got more to talk about in so many ways, sooner than later while we're still putting together the web universe.   Michael Hingson ** 57:20 Perfect. Glad to do it. Well, thanks again for being here.   Dr. Bob Wright ** 57:23 Thank you so much.   **Michael Hingson ** 57:28 You have been listening to the Unstoppable Mindset podcast. Thanks for dropping by. I hope that you'll join us again next week, and in future weeks for upcoming episodes. To subscribe to our podcast and to learn about upcoming episodes, please visit www dot Michael hingson.com slash podcast. Michael Hingson is spelled m i c h a e l h i n g s o n. 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Welcome to a compelling episode of Safety FM with Jay Allen, featuring an exclusive interview with Sean Brady, recorded live at the Energy Safety Canada Conference 2024 in the Van Horne Ballroom. Following his powerful presentation on the Boeing 737 MAX 8 crashes, Sean sits down with Jay Allen to delve deeper into the critical lessons learned from these tragic events. Sean Brady, a renowned forensic engineer, is the Vice Chair of the Society of Construction Law in Australia and a member of the SIMC Panel of Experts in Singapore. He is a Chartered Professional Engineer and a Fellow of Engineers Australia. In 2020, Sean completed the Brady Review, which investigated the causes of fatalities in the Queensland mining industry. This pivotal review, tabled in parliament, offered 11 essential recommendations to improve safety in the mining sector. Currently, Sean is leading an investigation into a major power station incident in Australia. He is widely recognized for his expertise in analyzing the causes of technical and organizational failures. In his presentation, Sean introduced the concept of complex systems and examined how they work and fail. Using the Boeing 737 MAX 8 crashes, which resulted in the deaths of 346 people, as a case study, Sean explored the organizational causes behind these catastrophic events. He discussed the interplay of company structure, location, and the relationship between management and technical disciplines, illustrating how an imbalance between profitability and safety can lead to disaster. During the interview, Sean and Jay delve into how complex systems differ from traditional Newtonian views of cause and effect. Sean emphasizes that complex systems consist of numerous interacting components, leading to emergent behaviors that can be unexpected and difficult to predict. He highlights the importance of understanding these systemic interactions to prevent future failures. This episode challenges listeners to think beyond the surface of technical failures and consider the broader organizational and systemic factors at play. Sean Brady's insights are invaluable for anyone looking to understand the deeper causes of major failures in high-risk industries. Join us on Safety FM with Jay Allen for this insightful interview with Sean Brady, as they unpack the lessons from the Boeing 737 MAX 8 crashes and explore how to build more resilient and safer organizational systems. For more on Sean Brady's work, visit [www.bradyheywood.com.au](https://www.bradyheywood.com.au/).

Dr. David McMillan is a clinical psychologist and author who specializes in interpersonal dynamics in relationships and communities. In particular he focuses on the ways that people heal or harm their relationships by the way we open ourselves to our partners or neighbors. He describes how principles of Newtonian psychics & Einstein's theories about the natural world apply to relationships, and how we can use this awareness to create healing and happiness with those around us, especially our partners.  Remember to turn your attention to the YWCA of Nashville (headquartered three blocks from today's guest BTW) and their shelter and outreach programs for Domestic Violence intervention. Go to www.ywcanashville.com/donating to view their Amazon Wishlist and donate to their programs.

A Note from James:This may be the smartest guy in terms of raw intelligence that I've ever had on the podcast. Sean Carroll is a great physicist and a great writer of physics. He attempts to explain quantum mechanics and the difference between quantum mechanics and classical physics. I make some analogies about how this applies to my personal life and pitch an idea that I think could win the Nobel Prize. If you listen to this podcast, you will know more about quantum mechanics than before.Sean Carroll is a professor living in Maryland, and a superb physicist who has written many books. However, there's another Sean Carroll who also lives in Maryland and is very smart. While preparing for this podcast, I didn't know the difference between the two Sean Carrolls, so I read books by both. Today, we have Sean M. Carroll, but there's also Sean B. Carroll, who wrote "A Series of Fortunate Events," about the science behind the luck of human existence. It was as fascinating as Sean M. Carroll's work. I read both in preparation and only later realized they were different Sean Carrolls. We need to get the other Sean Carroll on the podcast as well.Episode Description:In this mind-expanding episode of The James Altucher Show, we dive into the complex world of physics with none other than Sean Carroll, a renowned theoretical physicist and one of the most thought-provoking scientists of our time. This isn't your standard physics discussion; it's an enlightening exploration of how the fundamental laws of the universe influence our everyday lives. From the nuances of quantum mechanics to the grandeur of cosmology, Sean breaks down the universe's biggest mysteries in a way that's not only accessible but deeply relevant to personal growth and understanding our place in the cosmos.Episode Summary:[00:01:30] - Introduction to Sean Carroll and his expertise in physics and writing.[00:03:17] - Discussion on Sean's books and their approach to explaining complex physics.[00:05:19] - Quantum mechanics vs. classical physics and their applications.[00:06:44] - The holistic view of the universe in quantum mechanics.[00:07:34] - The nuances of gravity and its evolution from Newton to Einstein.[00:12:35] - Electromagnetism and its difference from the Newtonian view.[00:14:25] - Exploring the unity of gravitational fields and magnetic fields.[00:16:05] - Einstein's perspective on gravity as a feature of space-time.[00:18:27] - The role of quantum mechanics in explaining the universe.[00:20:00] - Understanding the Big Bang and the cosmic microwave background radiation.[00:22:42] - Speculative theories about multiple Big Bangs and the creation of new universes.[00:23:15] - Quantum fluctuations and the possibility of new universes popping into existence.[00:27:02] - The famous question in quantum mechanics: Why does observing a particle change it?[00:29:35] - The theory of spooky entanglement and its implications.[00:31:39] - The holistic nature of quantum mechanics and the concept of entanglement.[00:37:00] - The information dimension and the complexity of space in quantum mechanics.[00:40:31] - Sean Carroll's journey into physics and his philosophical approach.[00:42:57] - The ongoing quest for understanding the smallest particles and fundamental forces.[00:45:51] - The challenges and politics of academia and scientific discovery.[00:48:52] - The practical applications of physics and the importance of documenting knowledge.[00:50:50] - The influence of capitalism and creativity in scientific fields.[00:54:55] - Injecting creativity into physics and balancing academic expectations.[00:57:43] - The exciting areas of complexity and emergence in modern physics.Additional Resources:Sean Carroll's Book: The Biggest Ideas in the Universe: Space, Time, and MotionSean Carroll's Book: The Biggest Ideas in the Universe: Quanta and FieldsTune in and expand your understanding of the universe with insights from Sean Carroll! ------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book, Skip the Line, is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltuchershow.com------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe to “The James Altucher Show” wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsiHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on social media:YouTubeTwitterFacebookLinkedIn

A Note from James:This may be the smartest guy in terms of raw intelligence that I've ever had on the podcast. Sean Carroll is a great physicist and a great writer of physics. He attempts to explain quantum mechanics and the difference between quantum mechanics and classical physics. I make some analogies about how this applies to my personal life and pitch an idea that I think could win the Nobel Prize. If you listen to this podcast, you will know more about quantum mechanics than before.Sean Carroll is a professor living in Maryland, and a superb physicist who has written many books. However, there's another Sean Carroll who also lives in Maryland and is very smart. While preparing for this podcast, I didn't know the difference between the two Sean Carrolls, so I read books by both. Today, we have Sean M. Carroll, but there's also Sean B. Carroll, who wrote "A Series of Fortunate Events," about the science behind the luck of human existence. It was as fascinating as Sean M. Carroll's work. I read both in preparation and only later realized they were different Sean Carrolls. We need to get the other Sean Carroll on the podcast as well.Episode Description:In this mind-expanding episode of The James Altucher Show, we dive into the complex world of physics with none other than Sean Carroll, a renowned theoretical physicist and one of the most thought-provoking scientists of our time. This isn't your standard physics discussion; it's an enlightening exploration of how the fundamental laws of the universe influence our everyday lives. From the nuances of quantum mechanics to the grandeur of cosmology, Sean breaks down the universe's biggest mysteries in a way that's not only accessible but deeply relevant to personal growth and understanding our place in the cosmos.Episode Summary:[00:01:30] - Introduction to Sean Carroll and his expertise in physics and writing.[00:03:17] - Discussion on Sean's books and their approach to explaining complex physics.[00:05:19] - Quantum mechanics vs. classical physics and their applications.[00:06:44] - The holistic view of the universe in quantum mechanics.[00:07:34] - The nuances of gravity and its evolution from Newton to Einstein.[00:12:35] - Electromagnetism and its difference from the Newtonian view.[00:14:25] - Exploring the unity of gravitational fields and magnetic fields.[00:16:05] - Einstein's perspective on gravity as a feature of space-time.[00:18:27] - The role of quantum mechanics in explaining the universe.[00:20:00] - Understanding the Big Bang and the cosmic microwave background radiation.[00:22:42] - Speculative theories about multiple Big Bangs and the creation of new universes.[00:23:15] - Quantum fluctuations and the possibility of new universes popping into existence.[00:27:02] - The famous question in quantum mechanics: Why does observing a particle change it?[00:29:35] - The theory of spooky entanglement and its implications.[00:31:39] - The holistic nature of quantum mechanics and the concept of entanglement.[00:37:00] - The information dimension and the complexity of space in quantum mechanics.[00:40:31] - Sean Carroll's journey into physics and his philosophical approach.[00:42:57] - The ongoing quest for understanding the smallest particles and fundamental forces.[00:45:51] - The challenges and politics of academia and scientific discovery.[00:48:52] - The practical applications of physics and the importance of documenting knowledge.[00:50:50] - The influence of capitalism and creativity in scientific fields.[00:54:55] - Injecting creativity into physics and balancing academic expectations.[00:57:43] - The exciting areas of complexity and emergence in modern physics.Additional Resources:Sean Carroll's Book: The Biggest Ideas in the Universe: Space, Time, and MotionSean Carroll's Book: The Biggest Ideas in the Universe: Quanta and FieldsTune in and expand your understanding...

What outside-the-box skills do you need to succeed as a professional coach/trainer?Paul explores what separates the good trainers/coaches from the great ones and the most important thing your clients need to learn from you with Jason Pickard in this abundance-filled Living 4D conversation. Learn more about Jason and his work on his website and on Instagram. Learn how to embrace overflowing abundance in every aspect of your life by downloading Jason's free 8 Keys to Greater Wealth and Well-Being program. For Living 4D listeners: Save $500 on his The Abundance Archetype course by mentioning that you heard Jason talking about it with Paul on Living 4D!Special offers from Living 4D guests are time-sensitive and at their discretion to redeem after 30 days. TimestampsLearning and teaching abundance. (5:34)Your primary identity. (18:19)Channeling the new myth of integration. (22:29)Second attention: What separates a great coach from a good one. (33:09)Your “why are you here?” personal life myth. (41:03)Is your life coach asking you lots of questions? (46:01)The Fibonacci sequence. (56:06)Do you live in an intelligent universe or a mechanical Newtonian world? (1:00:16)Be your own therapist. (1:11:06)One of the hardest lessons Jason needed to learn. (1:24:38)The third. (1:34:58)The most important thing a client needs to learn from an excellent trainer, according to Jason. (1:40:51)How do you know if a client is a good fit for you? (1:49:01)Are you helping your clients getting past the threshold of resistance or fear? (2:12:19)The Mystery School aspect of Jason's program. (2:25:47)ResourcesAcharyaThe work of William C.C. Chen,  Archimedes, Henry Corbin, Viktor Frankl and Mihaly CsikszentmilhalyiPaul's recent Living 4D conversation with Jason Pickard, Mimi Lindquist and Chase Ramey Find more resources for this episode on our website. Thanks to our awesome sponsors:PaleovalleyBiOptimizers US and BiOptimizers UK PAUL10Organifi CHEK20CHEK Academy Open HouseWild PasturesWe may earn commissions from qualifying purchases using affiliate links.

Flame Retardant Could Be Made From Discarded Cocoa HusksOn cocoa farms around the world, cocoa beans are pulled from their pods, and the hard husks are discarded, leaving 20 million tons of plant waste to biodegrade and potentially harm future crops. These husks are a source of lignin, a substance that gives plants their rigidity. It's extremely abundant—but often wasted.A new study published in the journal ACS Sustainable Chemistry and Engineering found that the lignin processed from leftover cocoa pod husks could have a new use as an ingredient in flame retardant.“Lignin is pretty special, as it is very soluble in organic solvents,” said study co-author Dr. Nicholas Westwood, a professor of chemistry and chemical biology at St. Andrews University in Scotland, in an email. This means lignin can be chemically manipulated to create a number of useful substances relatively easily.Because of lignin's malleability, Westwood and his coauthors were able to add a flame-retardant molecule to the processed substance, and found that the modification increased its already naturally high ability to smother flames.That's just one possible application. While lignin hasn't found widespread industrial use yet, scientists hold hope for it to become a greener alternative for fuel and a biodegradable plastic instead of just being leftovers. Processing biomass for food or fuel also produces a massive amount of lignin as a byproduct, which has been converted to materials like activated charcoal or carbon foam. “There are endless possibilities,” Westwood said.​​Joining Ira to talk about lignin and its potential uses is Dr. Rigoberto Advincula, a materials scientist with the Oak Ridge National Laboratory and the University of Tennessee in Knoxville.The Oozy Physics Of OobleckYou may be familiar with a common science demonstration done in classrooms: If you mix cornstarch and water together in the right proportions, you create a gooey material that seems to defy the rules of physics. It flows like a liquid, but when you try to handle it quickly, it stiffens up.This kind of material is called an oobleck, and it's a type of non-Newtonian fluid, meaning its viscosity changes under pressure or stress. Oobleck-like materials include human-made things like Silly Putty and paint, but are also found in nature; blood and quicksand are both non-Newtonian fluids.For a long time, it's been hard to prove exactly why these materials act the way they do. But recently, scientists developed a better understanding of the underlying physics. A new study conducted in collaboration between the James Franck Institute and Pritzker School of Molecular Engineering at the University of Chicago was able to demonstrate this mechanism.“The findings from this study are important because they provide direct experimental evidence for one of the mechanisms proposed for strong shear thickening,” says Dr. Heinrich Jaeger, professor of physics at the University of Chicago. “Namely, frictional interactions as the particles in the liquid are sheared into contact.” Jaeger is a co-author of the study, which was led by postdoctoral researcher Dr. Hojin Kim.Jaeger and Kim speculate that a better understanding of non-Newtonian fluids could help in the development of new, advanced materials. The potential ranges from flexible speed bumps to impact-resistant clothing. Jaeger joins Ira to talk about it.Transcripts for each segment will be available after the show airs on sciencefriday.com. To stay updated on all things science, sign up for Science Friday's newsletters.