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Morbid
Episode Revisit- Jack the Ripper (Parts 1-5)

Morbid

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 10, 2026 484:12


Weirdos! We're revisiting Whitechapel in this MASSIVE episode which includes all 5 episodes of Alaina's Roman Empire, Jack the Ripper! Alaina takes us to the streets of Whitechapel for part one of Jack The Ripper, and boy is it a stark picture she's painting us. Whitechapel was dark, damp, dirty and downright desolate at the time Jack The Ripper was roaming the streets. People were living in all kinds of horrible conditions, butchers and slaughterhouse workers were walking around covered in blood and because things were like this, it made the perfect stomping ground for a vicious murderer. Mary Ann "Polly" Nichols was the Ripper's first victim and the main person that we'll go over in part one while Alaina also gives us a background on a couple of other potential early victims. Stay tuned for (we're thinkin') three more! Jack the Ripper part two brings us the absolutely horrifying murder of Annie Chapman. Annie's story, much like the rest of the women who were killed, is incredibly devastating. She was struggling with sobriety when she landed on the shady streets in Spitalfields in the East end and was having a terrible time trying to find work to just get by. Robert Anderson, the head of the criminal investigations department was still on vacation, Sir Charles Warren's ego stepped on the scene and they were not even one step closer to uncovering the culprits identity. Jack the Ripper Part three will cover what is known as, “the double event.” Both Elizabeth Stride and Catherine Eddowes were found killed on this September night. Both women shared a lot in common with the previous two victims. They'd struggled through pretty much their entire lives just to make ends meet and then were met with this as their end. In this part we'll start to entertain the theory that Jack perhaps had some kind of medical background and you'll see just why one might think so once you dive into the episode! Hold onto your butts! Jack the Ripper part 4 is here weirdos! This installment will cover the horrific, and most brutal murder yet: the murder of Mary Jane Kelly. Mary Jane was the youngest victim at just twenty five years old and the only victim that was killed in her own room. When the police arrived on scene they were shocked, but still not any closer to uncovering the identity of the ripper. OH and also, Alaina has some HOT TAKES on the letters we went over in part 3. YOU HAVE REACHED THE CONCLUSION!!!! Alaina's final part of Jack the Ripper is here and we are talking all things suspects, confirmation bias, science, mitochondrial DNA and Patricia Cornwell. Do we know who Jack the Ripper is by now? No. Do we know who he isn't? Sorta. Stay tuned for years to come because Alaina claims one day she will have our answers!!! "SOMEDAY I WILL"- Alaina   Check out these great books on the case: Jack the Ripper and The Case For Scotland Yard's Prime Suspect by Robert House The Complete Jack the Ripper by Donald Rumbelow The Five: The Untold Lives of the Women Killed by Jack the Ripper by Hallie Rubenhold The Hidden Lives of Jack the Ripper's Victims by Robert Hume The Ripper Code by Thomas Toughill Jack the Ripper: Scotland Yard Investigates by Stewart Evans & Donald Rumbelow Jack the Ripper: The definitive Casebook by Richard Whittington-Eagan Portrait of a Killer: Jack the Ripper by Patricia Cornwell   Also check out these sites on the case: JackTheRipper.org Casebook: Jack The Ripper Jack the Ripper Tour   History blog mentioned in the episode: The History Girls   An even DEEPER dive into this case: Season 3 of Unobscured with Aaron Mahnke Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Savvy Sauce
Long-Game Parenting with Elizabeth Pehrson (Episode 295)

The Savvy Sauce

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 10, 2026 54:38


Long-Game Parenting with Elizabeth Pehrson (Episode 295)   Exodus 23:20 NLT “See, I am sending an angel before you to protect you on your journey and lead you safely to the place I have prepared for you.”   *Transcription Below*   Elizabeth Pehrson is a speaker, podcaster and founder of The Exchange. She's a yellow sanguine, who is full of energy and lives life wide-open! She loves Jesus and meaningful connections. Elizabeth is married to David and mother of EIGHT children, who range from high school to graduated from college.   Follow her online:  Instagram: @long_game_parenting or @octomama or @theexchangeus Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.m.pehrson   Thank you to our sponsor: Sam Leman Eureka   Questions and Topics We Cover: What is our role, as parents, in making an effort to help our children have a positive relationship with their siblings? What are ways we can positively shape our children to have strong and healthy relationships with friends?  How can we help our children uncover, articulate, and pursue their purpose in life?    Other Savvy Sauce Episodes Mentioned: 74 Effective Parenting for Toddlers Through College with Wife, Mother to 8, and The Exchange Founder, Elizabeth Pehrson Part 1  75 Responding to God's Stirring with Elizabeth Pehrson, Founder of The Exchange, Part Two God-honoring Relationship Between a Mother-in-Law and Daughter-in-Law with Author of The Mother-in-Law Dance, Annie Chapman   Connect with The Savvy Sauce on Facebook or Instagram or Our Website   Gospel Scripture: (all NIV) Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,”   Romans 3:24 “and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.”   Romans 3:25 (a) “God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood.”    Hebrews 9:22 (b) “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.”    Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”    Romans 5:11 “Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.”    John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”   Romans 10:9 “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.”    Luke 15:10 says “In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”   Romans 8:1 “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus”   Ephesians 1:13–14 “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession- to the praise of his glory.”   Ephesians 1:15–23 “For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.”   Ephesians 2:8–10 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God‘s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.“   Ephesians 2:13 “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.“   Philippians 1:6 “being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.”   *Transcription*   Music: (0:00 – 0:10)   Laura Dugger: (0:11 - 1:54) Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, where we have practical chats for intentional living. I'm your host, Laura Dugger, and I'm so glad you're here. The principles of honesty and integrity that Sam Leman founded his business on continue today, over 55 years later, at Sam Leman Chevrolet Eureka.   Owned and operated by the Bertschi family, Sam Leman and Eureka appreciates the support they've received from their customers all over central Illinois and beyond. Visit them today at lemangm.com. My returning guest for today is the very energetic, married mother of eight, and founder of The Exchange, Elizabeth Pearson.   I highly recommend that, first of all, you find the link in the show notes to start with our first two episodes together that we did a while back. They focus primarily on raising younger children, but today we're going to focus on parenting teens and beyond in hopes of launching faithful and healthy adults someday. So, with that goal in mind, we're going to begin by discussing relationship-building strategies to foster a life of rightly ordered affections, where we're all loving God and loving others as ourselves.   Then we're going to move into some more actionable ways to ensure our family delights in the abundant life in Christ. Here's our chat.   Welcome back to The Savvy Sauce, Elizabeth.   Elizabeth Pehrson: (1:55 - 1:57) Well, thank you so much for having me. What a joy.   Laura Dugger: (1:58 - 2:23) Well, I'm just going to start with something that's a little tricky because we obviously cannot control the outcome, but we can be faithful to our calling as parents. So, Elizabeth, do you have any practical tips for helping our children rightly order their affections so that they'll hopefully grow up to love God?   Elizabeth Pehrson: (2:23 - 4:52) Yes. I appreciate you asking with the disclaimers because I do think that that's an important thing because, first of all, I just want to say that I hope that every single woman listening can understand, believe, and trust that God loves our children way more than we do. And as much as we want to control the outcome or guarantee the outcome with our children, we can't.   All we can do is just be faithful to the children that God's entrusted to us. And when it comes to ordering our children's affections, I would basically just say it can't be forced. It can't be image-driven.   And I say that because, unfortunately, I see that a lot in Christian homes today, a lot. And I think one of the most helpful shifts for me in realizing that I cannot control anything when it comes to my children is that I can shape the environment where their loves are formed. That's one thing that is in my control.   That is something that I can do. And a few practical ways that you can do this, and first I'm going to say this a lot, the most important things that we can offer our children are caught, they're not taught. And we have to model it more than we preach it because our children are incredible observers.   And they notice what we prioritize. They notice what interrupts us. They notice what doesn't interrupt us.   And if God's something we only talk about on Sundays, then they feel that. But if they see us turning to Him when we're anxious, when we're grateful, when we're confused, they start to associate God with real life, not just rules. And second, I would just say, I think it's super important to help our kids understand what's worthy of love, right?   I mean, I think we should talk openly with our kids about sports, friends, achievements, you know, how those can be gifts, but they are terrible gods. And also, that they're very, very, very short-sighted. It's not typically, I would say, not typically the so-called bad things that are stealing our affections.   It's usually the good things that are just not often the best things. And so that I would say, like when I watch my children, oftentimes it would be them loving a good thing too much, you know. Most importantly, I would just say that if our kids or your kids or the listeners' kids grow up knowing the heart of God rather than the rules of God, I think their affections will know where to turn.   Laura Dugger: (4:53 - 5:04) Oh, that's so well said. And do you have any ideas for characteristics that will help foster a healthy parent-child relationship?   Elizabeth Pehrson: (5:05 - 8:07) Oh, goodness. I would say, you know, so many things. I think children thrive when they feel safe, when the home feels predictable, when it feels secure, and especially when we listen more than we lecture.   You know, when we can do that, they will feel understood and they won't feel constantly corrected. You know, I grew up in a home that I'm very grateful for, but in my home, love often felt transactional. If I did this, then that.   But, you know, we all know that love isn't something that is earned. You know, it's freely given. And so, our love and affection should never be tied to performance or behavior.   But again, unfortunately, what I see on a regular daily basis is that moms are more codependent on their children than ever before. And because of that, they see their children's behavior as a reflection of themselves. And so that love can become a little bit transactional.   But I would say, practically speaking, I think there's lots of things that encourage a healthy parent-child relationship. And, you know, we could go through a whole list of these things. But the first thing I would say is not being their friend yet.   Down the road, but not yet. You know, we'll have time for that later. But if we treat them as peers right now while they're in the home, authority isn't a value at all that is taught to be respected.   It isn't. And, you know, another thing would be just basic consistent boundaries because structure is actually what creates freedom, right? Open communication, you know, where hard conversations can be had.   And I'm going to tell you, this is something that we were not the best at, but we found ourselves consistently apologizing for, you know, avoiding that hard conversation and then having come back to it. That was a big one. You know, repair after conflict.   That's huge because it is so important for our kids to see us model, you know, owning our mistakes, apologizing for it, you know, when we mess up because that teaches the kids that our relationships can bend without breaking. And the last thing I thought of when I thought about this question was respect for autonomy. And I say that because healthy relationships are ones where we allow our kids to grow and evolve.   But a lot of times we want to keep them stuck in whatever that age, whatever that stage is. And children need to be allowed age-appropriate independence. They need to be allowed age-appropriate freedom, you know, constantly just letting that rope out little by little by little and, you know, knowing that parents eventually will just get to the place where they can guide mentor without instructing, you know, our, our goal for them is their own autonomy and their own independence.   Laura Dugger: (8:09 - 8:28) That's so good. It makes me even think recently I was reading something about leave and cleave and leaving is breaking all dependencies. And I thought that's kind of the kindness of the Lord that we do that a little by little.   Every year, probably of parenting.   Elizabeth Pehrson: (8:29 - 9:51) Oh, it's, it's the truth. And it's interesting that you say that because one, we have an 18-year-old boy that's graduating. And my husband and I were just talking, we think it's the goodness of the Lord because what we've noticed, not disrespect, but just this pulling away as he's, you know, nearing graduation, really wanting more independence, not necessarily telling us where he's going to be just, you know, he's not going to be able to go to college.   And then we're like, “Oh, I went to so-and-so's house.” And after the fact, and in, in a way when our first son started doing that, I was like, “You know what? He's not, he still lives in this, you know, in this home under this roof.”   But it's like my husband said, “You know, it's almost like God's goodness that allows him to pull away a little bit, a little bit, a little bit. So that when he does leave in August, end of July, It makes it a little bit easier. You know?”   And then that leave and cleave thing, you said, “I have a son that lives in Houston and he's the lead part just fine, independent, separate, but now he's cleaving to someone else as he's met a girl and that part has been hard for me.” It's like, whoa, like that's a whole, that's like next level, you know, where they no longer, you're no longer the one they call for advice. You're no longer the woman in their life, so to speak.   And so, it's been a lot of growing pains, but it's all, again, it's exactly what God designed when we raise our kids.   Laura Dugger:: (9:51 - 10:28) But you're right, it's both and it's beautiful, but it's hard and very difficult to go through. It makes me think one of my top 10 of all-time favorite episodes was with Annie Chapman and she wrote the mother-in-law dance. And so, I'll link to that episode as well in the show notes, but I think it was very helpful for even preparing now what that's going to look like someday.   Yep. But as we come back to focusing on today, Elizabeth, what is our role as parents in making an effort to help our children have a positive relationship with their siblings?   Elizabeth Pehrson: (10:29 - 14:01) Oh, goodness. Having eight children, you know, they have a lot of siblings and ever since our kids were little, David and I just have prayed over and over and over again, one, that they would know, love, and serve God, two, that they would stay close to each other, and then three, that they would seek joy in everything they do. And so, because one of our prayers is that they would stay close to each other, we did everything we could to shape environments that fostered connection with their siblings, with each other.   And that could look like we moved their rooms a lot of times, like who they shared with at different seasons of their life. We mixed them up with different brothers or different sisters, outings or trips where we would take just a couple of them, not all of them, but we mixed that up. You know, we never, ever, ever put up with disrespect or mistreatment of each other.   That one is a huge one, or their belongings for that matter. But that's so important not to allow your children to offer disrespect or display disrespect to their siblings. A lot of people think, oh, it's just their kid, you know, their siblings, they feel most comfortable with him.   That's totally normal, but it really does start at home. Another thing I think of is that we talked as a whole, our family as a team, as a unit. You know, we were a family unit.   It's not like one pitted against the other. We were on the same team. And although if my children were here, I am certain that one or more of them would say that they felt compared to at times, but we really did our best not to compare our children because comparison breeds rivalry faster than anything.   It really, really does. And we also tried to think about each individual child, you know, like, hey, this is your unique gift. This is your strength.   This is an asset, you know, an asset to the team, not just to you individually, but as a family as a whole. And the last thing I would say is everyone laughs because we had family A and then we had family B. And that's the first four kids and the second four kids.   And we taught them to serve each other. You know, the older kids were paired with the younger child, a younger sibling, and they had to help them. Sometimes it wasn't even help serving them, but it was doing a chore together.   We'll get to this later, I think. But chores are huge in our home. And when they turn nine, they have to mow the yard.   And we had we lived on three and a half acres. And so, we had a riding lawnmower. And when my nine-year-old son, my third son turned nine, he wasn't quite heavy enough to keep the mower going, you know, because you have to be heavy enough.   Otherwise, it shuts it off. And when he would lean to put his foot on the gas, it would shut it off. So, my three-year-old boy, his chore was to sit behind him and just hold on, you know, for the hour and a half it took him to mow the yard.   And, you know, we paired them together a lot. But at the end of the day, we can require respect, but we just can't force friendship. I have two daughters that are only 15 months apart.   When they were little, they were attached at the hip. I mean, where one went, the other one went. But now that they're older and they're both in college at the same college, their personalities are very different.   Their interests are very different. And they aren't as close as they once were, but they love each other. They respect each other.   And, you know, we just have to be OK with that, you know.   Laura Dugger: (14:02 - 14:40) That makes sense because there's different seasons to everything. I think you can see that with siblings who pair up with each other. And I'm sure that changes throughout their whole life.   Yeah, I want to go back. There's a few things that I want to follow up on. One of them was codependency with mothers and their children.   And the other one is already escaping me now. So, I'll try and recall that one. But can you share a little bit more of either why you think it is that way more today or what that might look like if we're codependent with our children and maybe unaware of that?   Elizabeth Pehrson: (14:41 - 16:35) All I can say is that I meet with women on a regular basis and 9.9 times out of ten there, they see their children as a reflection of themselves. So, when they make wise choices, they tend to tend to get puffed up. When they don't, they kind of bow back in shame or regret.   Or I can't believe this. But the truth of the matter is they are independent, you know, separate from you. And most moms don't know where they end and where the child begins.   We're entering graduation season. And I cannot tell you the number of moms that are like, “Oh, oh, this is so hard, this graduation thing.” And I'm like, but you're not graduating.   Like, you know, the kids have the responsibility of all the different things they have to do. But you don't. They've already you know, you've already graduated.   Let them enjoy this separate from you. But they can't do it. They're a part of every single aspect of their daughter or their son's life.   And when that happens, you know, every home run is so important. Every grade they make is so important. And I am all about long, long term, you know, long term parenting.   And it is not that it has nothing to do with a long-term person of character that they will become. So, if moms can see where they are separate, it is so beneficial for the child as well as the mom. You know, I met with a mom the other day and she's like, well, I'm not codependent, but my daughter is.   And I said, “Well, tell me more about this.” And she said, “Well, she calls me. She's in college and she calls me 10 times a day.”   And I said, “OK, well, let me ask you, how many times do you answer?” And she's kind of looked at me and she goes, “Well, she might need something.” And I said, “She can call back.”   She can text 911. But when you're so readily available to your child, it just fosters that dependency, you know, of your child on you. And it's so unhealthy.   Laura Dugger: (16:36 - 16:51) And I did hear a mom tell me one time when we, I think, had very little children. She said, “You want to ultimately work that dependency off of you and onto the Lord where they are first going to him, which is a lifelong job.”   Elizabeth Pehrson: (16:51 - 18:23) It is a lifelong job. There's a funeral service. It's going to sound morbid, but I watched it because it was so impactful to me.   I didn't even know this lady, but I watched it four times, this service that was online out of Florida. And the daughters were speaking and they said, “The best thing that they did, the very best thing that she did for them was to teach them their complete dependence on the Lord.” And she said, “She had cancer and she knew she was passing away.”   And she said, “Girls, don't be sad for me. I am going to be with my heavenly father rejoicing, singing his praises.” And she said, “If I have taught you to rely solely on me, then I've done a really bad job.”   I want your sole dependence to be on your heavenly father. But unfortunately, what I see again is just meeting with these women. We teach them that our presence is what keeps them safe or are, you know, being close proximity, especially with the cell phone.   You know, there's a lot of researchers that call it the longest umbilical cord because it keeps us in contact with him 24 seven. It's so sad. I mean, I interviewed some teachers at a middle school because they don't no longer allow cell phones.   You have to put it in the basket. Now there are some schools that are making you just not even bring it in. But I'm not even exaggerating when I tell you.   They would tell me that the children have two cell phones. The parents would give them two; one so they could put it in the basket and two so that the parents could be able to reach them at a moment's notice. Wow.   It's a real thing. I'm not making this up.   Laura Dugger: (18:24 - 18:26) That is crazy.   Elizabeth Pehrson: (18:26 - 18:59) Just to think in not that many years, how different that is from, you know, I ask moms all the time, would you have loved it if your mom had a low jack on you, like tracking your every move? I mean, because what happens is when you do that in middle school, high school, then they go off to college. I meet with moms every single day.   They're like, oh, my goodness, I'm so tired. I didn't go to bed till three o'clock last night. And I'm like, why?   Well, because I have like 360 on my child in college and she didn't get home till three, so I couldn't go to sleep. That's a normal everyday thing.   Laura Dugger: (19:01 - 19:38) Wow. And OK, for those situations, what would you recommend instead of that? And I guess if I could throw this in, I just was at a reunion with some graduate school friends, and we are all therapists or that's what we studied.   And we were just sharing how truly we've seen this play out. What we learned back in grad school was that if there's anxiety about something, avoidance never works. You have to even if it's micro dosing, you have to go through it rather than around it or avoid it.   Elizabeth Pehrson: (19:38 - 20:32) Oh, yes. And I mean, I'm sure you've read the book, The Most Anxious Generation of All Time. I mean, that's where we are.   And it stems, in my opinion, my humble opinion from the parents who are so anxious because they are codependent, because they are over involved in their children's life. And, you know, quite honestly, it's like the moms are so involved in their children's lives that when the last child leaves, you see the highest divorce rate is after the last emancipation of the last child. Once that child leaves, it's like, I have no life.   I have no identity. I have no purpose. And I certainly don't have relationship with my husband because my focus has been with my children.   And so, the moms that are anxious, the moms that are just so overbearing, over controlling are the ones that, in my opinion, are fostering those types of relationships with their children, the anxious ones. They can't do anything without their parents.   Laura Dugger: (20:33 - 22:06) And now a brief message from our sponsor, Sam Leman Chevrolet Eureka has been owned and operated by the Bertschi family for over 25 years. A lot has changed in the car business since Sam and Stephen's grandfather, Sam Leman, opened his first Chevrolet dealership over 55 years ago. If you visit their dealership today, though, you'll find that not everything has changed.   They still operate their dealership like their grandfather did with honesty and integrity. Sam and Stephen understand that you have many different choices in where you buy or service your vehicle. This is why they do everything they can to make the car buying process as easy and hassle free as possible.   They are thankful for the many lasting friendships that began with a simple Welcome to Sam Leman's. Their customers keep coming back because they experience something different. I've known Sam and Stephen and their wives my entire life, and I can vouch for their character and integrity, which makes it easy to highly recommend you check them out today.   Your car buying process doesn't have to be something you dread. So come see for yourself at Sam Leman Chevrolet in Eureka. Sam and Stephen would love to see you, and they appreciate your business.   Learn more at their website, LemanEureka.com, or visit them on Facebook by searching for Sam Leman Eureka. You can also call them at 309-467-2351. Thanks for your sponsorship.   And so, do you have any tips if they're recognizing that in themselves today? What's just one turning point that could happen?   Elizabeth Pehrson: (22:07 - 23:29) Well, I would say and I hope that they're willing to take it. Most women that I meet with will recognize that they are. And then they're like, but you don't understand.   Or but I just can't go to sleep or there's a, but you know why I can't. But I would say whatever that is, that has a hold on you, that you're still holding on to your 18, 19, 20, 21, 26-year-old child, whatever it is, they're adults. I mean, legally, they are adults at 18.   But yet whatever that is, that's holding you, keeping you attached to them, whether it's causing you to lose sleep, whether it's causing anxiety. You absolutely have to make that separation in that area. And so, you know, for the one that's got the Life360, 24 seven. Hey, give it to your husband.   You take it off your phone and they will be able to know how to figure out where your child is, should there be a need, you know, but you're hyper fixating on it, take that away. If it is a cell phone and you're calling your child every single day about everything, all that's doing is teaching your child that they can't do it on their own without you. And they have Google, you know, they have the Internet.   I didn't have that when I went away and I didn't have a cell phone, but I figured it out. So, it's like whatever it is that has a hold on you. I would encourage the mom just to make that separation in that one area and then start there.   Laura Dugger: (23:30 - 23:34) Love it. And I did think of the other thing that I wanted to circle back with.   Elizabeth Pehrson: (23:35 - 23:35) What is this?   Laura Dugger: (23:35 - 23:49) So, you had mentioned, yes, you taught your children respect one another in the home, but also respecting their belongings or property. Can you just share a little bit more of how you did that in your philosophy of why that was important?   Elizabeth Pehrson: (23:50 - 25:40) Oh, absolutely. I would tell you that David, my husband, and I firmly believe that respect for siblings, for coaches, for teachers, for peers, for their parents is hands down the foundation of every other principle that you can instill in your children, because if you respect them, you know, I mean, there are certain cultures and generations that respect their elderly. We're not a culture that does that.   And it's like if you respect them, you hold the door for them. You'll get up and give them your seat. You would never, you know, misuse their things, their belongings.   So, with the second that we saw any amount of disrespect, whether it was to us, like, say, if one of my children said something to me that was disrespectful, whether it was a tone, it might not have been the words. It could be a tone. It could be the volume of his voice, whatever it might be.   My husband would step in and say, “Hey, son. That's my wife. I don't allow anyone to speak like that to her.”   And then therefore, there would be like a consequence for it. And so, I mean, it might be that or at the risk of being too TMI or too vulgar. I had one son that had the urge to go to the bathroom, pee wherever he wanted to.   And one time he peed on his sister's blanket, her blankie, because he was mad at her. Let me tell you something. He will never forget it.   I don't remember what the punishment was at the time, but he got one. He never went to the bathroom anywhere again other than the toilet. You know, it's like, no, no, no, you cannot do that.   I mean, it's the foundation of the golden rule. You know, do unto others as you would have them do unto you. But children think they can get away with it.   And then parents justify it by saying, “Oh, but they're only three. Oh, but they're only six. Oh, they didn't really mean it.”   Well, you know what? That's where you've set the foundation right there. Three, five, six, whatever the age, so that when they grow up, they will respect their coaches, their employers, their teachers.   Laura Dugger: (25:40 - 25:55) You know, so good. OK, so another relational question, then what are ways that we can help or support positively shaping our children to have strong and healthy relationships with their friends?   Elizabeth Pehrson: (25:56 - 29:02) Yeah, I think that is such an important question. It was the very first verse we had our children memorize when they were itty bitty, you know, he who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm because research shows that we are the sum of the five people that we hang out with the most. So, who those five are in their circle, it is so important.   You know, it in our opinion, it is essential to model for our children what healthy friendships look like, because, again, they learn that by watching us. It goes back to what's caught, you know, not the top principle. And I think it's essential to have them around other children their own age as often as possible, because I think we can use friendship with their peers, not their parents, not their grandparents, but with peers.   Then we can use those examples and those situations to teach them to include others, to take turns, to read body language, to notice when something's wrong with one of your friends, right? To apologize. Ask for forgiveness too, hey, this one's doing something completely different than I would do, but let's celebrate that.   And a big one is navigating disappointment and hurt. You know, I mean, that's going to inevitably happen with our children and their friendships. So those roles are so important because we can use those experiences to help train and equip them.   You know, for us, our goal was never, ever, ever about popularity. Matter of fact, I don't even like the word. I don't like the you know what it stands for.   But for us, it was really just to focus on their character and the heart issues. So, because of that, we would ask them, you know, not who are you friends with and who do you know, but things like who did you include at lunch today? Did you notice anyone sitting alone?   Did you say anything to them? What kind friend or what kind of thing did you do for a friend today? And, you know, as far as like how we model that for our children and try to encourage that with them, it's going to cause a sacrifice on our end, right?   I mean, when we're allowing and I mean, we might have to take time driving them to, you know, a good friend's house that lives far away or it might be hosting events. It might be goodness. I mean, every mom knows that we've had to wait on our children and wait and wait and wait and whatever that looks like.   But, you know, just modeling that for our children and setting that environment and that groundwork so that they can have these friendships. It's going to be a sacrifice for every single mom. We can and we'll have to sacrifice our comfort.   We'll have to sacrifice our convenience. Right. A louder house, extra groceries, wet towels, muddy shoes like the list could go on and on and on.   But, you know, I know that there have been times when I would hope I would host things in my home, but I would rather be resting, you know, but I can't because I have a house full of 30 kids or staying home because there needs to be a parent there when I'd rather be out on a date with my husband. You know, there's lots of sacrifices that we're going to have to make. But I just think it's super, super important. That we do.   Laura Dugger: (29:03 - 29:25) Well, and I love hearing that side of it. I'm assuming you're such a both and person, too. What did you make sure that you didn't sacrifice?   Because I never hear you saying I only sacrificed for my kids so it could be better for them. But you were healthy all throughout raising them. So, does that make sense?   How did you balance your own?   Elizabeth Pehrson: (29:25 - 30:36) No, and I appreciate you saying that, but I'm certain that there were times when I was tired, when I was selfish and that I didn't do the wise thing. But I will say that that it is so important not to sacrifice yourself because, you know, you can hear it in the analogies of, you know, you can't you can't give what you don't have. You got to fill yourself up first.   And it's all true. You know, the oxygen mask on the airplane before you give it to your children, it's so important. But I equally think it's important for your children to see.   I'm not going to be at home at dinner tonight because you know what? I'm with my besties. I'm with my girlfriends tonight.   That is important to me. Loving one another and being with one another is spoken of more in scripture than parenting, more than marriage. I mean, it is spoken of over and over and over again.   So, I want them to see that, “Hey, tonight I'm going to sacrifice time at home and I'm going to go out, be with my girlfriends”. So, there's definitely some things you have to sacrifice. But I don't want a woman to be so depleted because she's constantly giving, giving, giving, giving, giving that again, when she when their children graduate and leave home, they don't even know who they are.   They've lost sight of who God created them to be.   Laura Dugger: (30:36 - 30:39) I appreciate your balance in that.   Elizabeth Pehrson: (30:39 - 30:41) It's always and in both.   Laura Dugger: (30:41 - 30:43) Yes, it really is.   Elizabeth Pehrson: (30:43 - 30:43) It is.   Laura Dugger: (30:44 - 30:53) How do you think we can help our kids uncover and articulate and pursue their purpose in life?   Elizabeth Pehrson: (30:54 - 32:55) Purpose is huge for me. I'm sure you know that. It's the name of my podcast.   It's why I started the exchange. But I have to tell you, I meet with women every single day, grown women, 40s, 50s, 60s, even 70s that still do not know their purpose. They don't know who they are.   So realistically, for our children, I don't want to have anyone, you know, mom beat themselves up because it does take time to help them understand, you know, who they are, why God put them here, what their purpose is. And I will say some of my kids will grasp it before others. You know, I have a son that just graduated UGA, and he still is contemplating, you know, what does God have for my life?   But as far as purpose goes, whether it's your young children, whether it's your high school children trying to figure out, do I go to college? Do I not go to college? You know, what do I major in?   All of those things. But for anyone, I want to say that it's important that they know their purpose is not what they do. But the why behind what they do.   And if someone is unsure of what that is or, you know, why they do something, I would encourage them to ask questions. That's my biggest thing. When I meet with women, when I talk with them, just ask questions, ask questions.   I mean, we don't have the answers, but to ask questions. And so, I'll ask my children, you know, when they're contemplating some of these things, “Hey, what makes you come alive? What lights you up?”   You know, who do you love to serve? What could you do for hours, hours, and hours and lose track of time? For an older woman, I would say, what did you love to do as a child?   You know, maybe what do other people say to you? Man, you make that look effortless. You are so good at fill in the blank.   What keeps you up at night? What breaks your heart? I think the answer to all of those questions lead us ultimately to what God uniquely put in our hearts to do and how he created us.   You know, when he created each one of us, he gave us something that he wants us to offer to the world. And whatever that is, I would say will lead you to your purpose.   Laura Dugger: (32:56 - 33:00) And do you have yours articulated that you want to share with us?   Elizabeth Pehrson: (33:00 - 34:41) Oh, it took me a long time to go, God, who did you create me to be? And asking some of those questions, it's so interesting. So, you know, I speak, I speak, you know, at the exchange and in the last 10 years, I've started speaking more at churches and other places, and it's my absolute favorite thing to do.   It lights me up. I find great joy in it. It comes natural to me.   And one day when I was asking this woman, I'm like, let me ask you, what did you love to do as a child? Like, what could you just do for hours and hours? And she's like, well, I don't know.   Can you give me some examples? And she said, what did you love to do? And it was like this light bulb went off.   And my mom was very, very, very girly. And I had three older brothers. I was not.   And my mom wanted me to be very girly. So, she would give me for every birthday, Christmas, Easter, Flag Day. It didn't matter what the holiday.   I got a Madame Alexander doll. It's this doll that has it's like on a stand and it just sits there like you don't play with it. You don't you just look at it.   I don't know the purpose of these dolls. I don't know why anyone would want one. But when I tell you I had 100 of them, I literally had 100 of them.   And so, when I was thinking back to what did I love to do as a child instinctively, no one told me to do it. I would get home after school, and I would pull out all of these dolls and I would put them on my bed and I would line them up and I would talk to them. I would tell them all about my day, what I learned, what someone taught me, the injustices of being the only girl in the family, what I'm going to do when I'm older.   And I literally that's what I did for hours. And it was like this light bulb went off. It's like God put that in me.   I was encouraging my dolls. I was talking to them. I was, you know, hopefully motivating them, inspiring them.   Obviously, they couldn't move. But that's what I do now. And encouraging women is my purpose.   Laura Dugger: (34:42 - 35:27) I love that story so much. That's amazing. Do you love The Savvy Sauce?   Do you gain anything when you listen? Did you know that the two ways we earn money to keep this podcast live is through generous contributions from listeners and from our paying sponsors? That means we can promote your business and you're still supporting The Savvy Sauce.   It's a win-win. Please email us today at info@theSavvySauce.com to inquire about pricing for sponsoring each episode. Thank you for your consideration.   Elizabeth, do you have any tips for how we can influence our children to become lifelong learners?   Elizabeth Pehrson: (35:28 - 39:29) Yes, I think it's super important to encourage that in your children. But I also don't think there's a formula for it because some children are naturally more curious. Some are naturally more inquisitive.   I do think it's super important to recognize that, you know, what it is that they want to learn. They want to study because it's going to be different for your children. So, you might not think that they're a learner or someone that's curious, but they're just not curious about what you're curious about.   Right. My oldest son reads a biography of presidents and historical figures all the time. He tries to get through one a week.   I couldn't think of more boring reading, but he loves, loves it. He just takes it all in. He knows all the facts and stats on presidents.   But what's funny is when he was two years old, he could name all of the presidents in order at two years old. I couldn't even do it. I had to hold up the placemat to make sure, you know, that he was right.   I have another son that studies history, loves it, just absolutely loves it. And I have a daughter who probably the one that's most like me. But I will tell you that she will be a lifelong learner of people the rest of her life.   That is her passion. She's curious. She's inquisitive.   She's always asking questions of people. And as long as we know that ultimately, it's just going to be up to them. Some are going to be great learners.   Naturally, others won't be. But I would say if you wanted me to point to something again, it just comes back to modeling it, you know, for our children, because children copy what we love, not what we lecture. They copy what we love, not what we lecture every single time.   And I remember when one time when my kids were little, they wanted me to plant a garden. And I don't know what the opposite of a green thumb is, but that's what I have. I'm like the opposite of that.   And I had no idea. Like, you dig up the grass, you till the soil. Like, when do you plant?   How do you even grow a vegetable? I had no idea. But I said, “You know what? I don't know how to do this, but let's figure it out together.”   We'll figure it out together. And, you know, I suggest that moms would say things to their kids like, I just listened to this podcast, and it really challenged my thinking.   I had never thought of it this way before. Or I don't know anything about that topic you want to talk about, but let's find out, let's dive in and look, go to the library or, you know, whatever it might be. And lastly, I would just say that it really comes down to praising effort, not performance, because if you're saying you're so smart, you know so much about that or you're so wise in that area.   It really is. It doesn't do them anything other than teach them a performance based. Right.   So, it's like I want to say the things the things to them. Like, I am so proud of you when you didn't know what you were doing. You stuck with it.   You figured it out because I think that is a growth mindset instead of like instead of driving in performance anxiety. Like, I don't know how to do this. I didn't figure it out.   I can't. You know, we really want them like, hey, I don't know what it is, but I'll figure it out. You know, and I just think when learning really becomes about grades, achievement, success, whatever it is, curiosity dies, does.   So, it's like at the dinner table. I remember David and I would ask questions of the kids, and we would ask them things like, what did you fail at today? Like, what did you mess up today?   Like, what surprised you today that you didn't know yesterday? And then David and I would share as well. Like, let me tell you what I learned.   Let me tell you where I messed up at work. And it's just important to normalize not having all the answers. You know, one of our big parenting mantras is don't bail, let them fail.   And I think it is so important because we don't want to rescue our children. You know, we want them to not know how to do something so that they can figure it out and then just learn as they go. You know, because that's really where confidence grows.   It grows through problem solving and learning things the hard way.   Laura Dugger: (39:30 - 40:01) Wow, there's so much there. I love I'll kind of summarize a few things. So being curious ourselves, modeling it, having our own interests and sharing those ideas, but I hear this theme of questions, asking our kids questions.   I think that develops critical thinking. But then you helped identify with them what their interests were. And I think that will naturally lead to being a lifelong learner if we find what we're interested in.   You said all of your kids might be different once they found that. They'll probably be lifelong learners in those areas.   Elizabeth Pehrson: (40:01 - 40:32) For sure. And I guess what I meant by some or more so than others like my first born, he is a five on the Enneagram. And so, his he wants to know how everything works and studies it and researches it for hours before he makes a decision where I have some other children that are like, you know, instead of ready, set, go, it's more like go, set, ready, you know, and I'll figure it out later.   I don't care. But he's just naturally more inquisitive to want to know how things work. What makes things tick?   Why does the world work the way it works? You know, that kind of thing.   Laura Dugger: (40:33 - 40:44) Well, I don't know if this goes together or if you would share something different. But do you think there are any ways that we can help our children recognize and utilize their spiritual gifts?   Elizabeth Pehrson: (40:46 - 44:02) Yeah, when I think about spiritual gifts, I kind of think it goes back to the purpose question that we talked about earlier. You know, again, I know a lot of adults that don't know their spiritual gifts yet. They're still questioning.   They're still I'm not really sure is it this or this or I don't know where to lean in. And it's hard for parents to help their children find their spiritual gifts when they don't know theirs, you know, or they don't know how God wired them or what he placed deep inside of them. But one thing that I would offer when you're trying to help your children with that is just as parents just notice things about your children, but notice them out loud.   What God's already doing in your children, notice them out loud, speak them out loud, like pay attention. Which child comforts the crying sibling who organizes the game so that everybody feels included? Who asks deep questions about faith or which child senses when someone, you know, is left out?   You know, those are all clues as to how God wired them and what's deep inside of them. And, you know, you can say things as simple as you know, you know, I noticed you have a gift for encouragement. You really are so good at that.   Or, hey, you know what? You notice what other people miss. That's amazing.   How do you do that? God is always giving you courage. You know, I have a son named Josh, and he's got this big Joshua one nine frame in his, you know, Bible verse in his room.   It's like God has given you a spirit of fear and but of courage and of sound mind, you know, and it's like we try to speak that courage into him or, you know, I have one son that always keeps us organized and on track. And we used to call him the traffic cop because he was always like this. But then I was like, no, that doesn't really speak life into him.   It's more of a judge. So, we were like, you know what? You are so organized.   You keep us on track. And I think when kids hear out loud like their strengths name, they begin to see them as gifts rather than just like, oh, that's just how I am. That's a person that, you know, personality court.   And as you're trying to speak those things out loud and let them see and notice things about themselves that maybe they didn't see. You can also give them opportunities to practice things like, hey, at the dinner table, you're going to pray out loud tonight for the family, for our meal, or, hey, I'd like you to help lead with our family dinner devotions or hey, you know what? I'm going to go serve this weekend at this project.   And I really want you to come alongside me and go with me. Maybe, hey, you know what? I noticed this younger sibling really needs encouragement today.   Could you just go and speak some encouragement to her? You know, handwritten notes. That's a big one in our family.   You know, literally handwritten notes, not just by a card and signing it. Love, Josh, you know, but to write out. And I think that's something that we can instill in our kids because that's a lost art.   But, you know, most importantly, more than any of that, I would say to remind your kids this gift, this spiritual gift that God has given you isn't for you. It's for someone else. Right.   A person of purpose, a hero, whatever you want to call it, is a person who takes who they are with what they have for the benefit of someone else. That's it. It's just like who they are with what they have for the benefit of someone else.   And when you do that, there's always a gift that you can offer somebody else.   Laura Dugger: (44:04 - 44:15) Well, in another biblical topic, we know that it's a biblical command to be hospitable. So, were there any specific ways that you trained your children in hospitality?   Elizabeth Pehrson: (44:16 - 46:33) Yeah. Hospitality was my mom's ultimate gift. It was probably the thing that she modeled the best for my brothers and for me.   We hosted foreign exchange students for months at a time. Every single Sunday. People don't believe me when I tell them this, but it's true.   Every single Sunday, we would invite a family home from church to have lunch with us that we did not know. It was never somebody that we knew. And so, on Saturday, we would prepare the house.   We would prepare the yard. We would cook the food as a family. Everybody had a role in it.   And then my dad would literally find a family that we did not know. And he would invite them home. And my parents always had their home open for Bible studies, for parties, for small groups, whatever, and whomever needed a space.   They made our home available. And I've just tried to do that for my children in my own ways because it looks very differently than, you know, the way my mom did it. But I basically think hospitality is simply just making room.   That's it. It's just making room, whether it's making room at your table, whether it's making room in your home. You know, a lot of moms are perfectionists, and they associate perfection with it.   My home's not clean enough. My home's not pretty enough. It's not perfect enough.   And so, then they don't want to do it. But I can just tell you honestly, with eight children, perfect wasn't an option, you know, anyway, but we did. We had an open-door policy for dinner.   We even had a sign on our garage door. It said dinner's at 6:30. All are welcome.   And so, anybody could come and show up to dinner any night of the week at 6:30. And all of our children, when we invited people over, everybody had to participate, not just those that were excited about it, but like the whole family, you know, whether it was setting the table, greeting the guests at the door, making eye contact and then asking them questions, clearing plates. I mean, just whatever it is.   We wanted every single person to be a part of it. And really, we just tried to say, hey, you know, this is going to cost you something, because sometimes generosity does. You might have to squeeze in at the dinner table and sit like this because we're all squeezed in and that's OK.   Or you might have three air mattresses on your floor tonight and you have to share your room. And I know you don't want to, but that's OK. I mean, it's like generosity is going to cost you something.   And we wanted our kids to know that.   Laura Dugger: (46:34 - 46:47) Oh, such great examples. And do you have any other additional tips for ways that all of our family can actually delight in the abundant life that Christ has, that he's offered each one of us?   Elizabeth Pehrson: (46:49 - 48:59) Yeah, I mean, again, I certainly do not have all the answers, and we could have made service projects and serving others more of a priority in our home, for sure. But I just I think that the abundant life in Jesus it is about serving others. It is about offering others what he's given you.   And, you know, we don't serve to earn love like we serve because we're already loved. I mean, that's really the bottom line. And that changes everything.   And so, I would just encourage families to start serving together, not as a punishment, you know, not as a obligation, but just as a way of life. It's what we do. It's who we are.   And so, because of that, the abundant life for us offering it to others looked like making meals, making cupcakes, making a cake and delivering it to people. We had elderly neighbors all in our street and we mowed their yards. We picked up pinecones.   We went to the grocery store and picked up their medicine for them. You know, we made, again, handwritten notes and cards, just very small, easy, tangible, ordinary things that we could do to love on others. And I would say, let them see your joy in what you're doing, because they children do not like drudgery.   They're just going to resist it. Right. It's like but if they see you delighting and feeling full, full after serving and then giving, they appreciate you know, they appreciate that they see the joy.   And so, it's just it's important. I just think all the way around just there's Andy Stanley always says, you know, following God's principles will make your life better and it will make your life make you better at life. And so, when we follow these principles, when we serve, when we celebrate the kids serving other people with a joyful heart, you know, we celebrate their impact, not their performance, not how grand it was, not how big it was.   But hey, you made someone feel loved today. That's a really big deal. That's a really big thing.   You're eight years old. Not everybody can do that. And I am so grateful that you love Jesus so much that you would be willing to do that.   So, I just think the abundant life comes from following God's principles. You know, it's not having more. It's just loving more.   Laura Dugger: (49:00 - 49:14) Oh, love it. You have so much wisdom to share. So, before we press pause on this conversation, because we get to continue again next week, will you just let us know where we can go in the meantime to learn more from you?   Elizabeth Pehrson: (49:15 - 49:38) Oh, sure. If someone would like to follow me, it's on Instagram. I have my own personal one.   It's called @octomama. My kids made that long time ago. I also have the @theexchangeus.   That is that's my Instagram handle there. And then a long game parenting, writing a parenting book. And so, I do have a handle for that where I post things.   But it's called @long_game_parenting. So, yeah, wonderful.   Laura Dugger: (49:38 - 49:56) We'll link to all of that in the show notes for today's episode. And Elizabeth, this is your third time on The Savvy Sauce. So, you already know we're called The Savvy Sauce because savvy is synonymous with practical knowledge.   And so is my final question for you today. What is your Savvy Sauce?   Elizabeth Pehrson: (49:56 - 50:36) I would say in light of our conversation today and in light of what I talked about and shared, it's so simple. It's just 12 words. I say it all the time.   Think what you want your kids to be and then be it. Think what you want your kids to be and then be it. And I don't mean this in terms of your career or your profession, you know, but I mean in terms of modeling for our children what we want to impress upon their heart, things of character, because the truth is, it goes back to that.   We can only take our children as far as we've gone ourselves, or we can only help our children as far as we've done the work ourselves emotionally, mentally, spiritually and physically. So, think what you want your kids to be and then be it.   Laura Dugger: (50:37 - 50:46) What a beautiful way to close out our time together today. As always, Elizabeth, you are just effervescent and time flies by when we're having conversations together.   Elizabeth Pehrson: (50:47 - 50:49) I talk fast, so thanks for saying that.   Laura Dugger: (50:50 - 50:52) Well, thank you for being my guest.   Elizabeth Pehrson: (50:52 - 50:55) Absolutely. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks, Laura.   Laura Dugger: (50:56 - 54:10) One more thing before you go.   Have you heard the term gospel before? It simply means good news. And I want to share the best news with you.   But it starts with the bad news. Every single one of us were born sinners, but Christ desires to rescue us from our sin, which is something we cannot do for ourselves. This means there's absolutely no chance we can make it to heaven on our own.   So, for you and for me, it means we deserve death and we can never pay back the sacrifice we owe to be saved. We need a savior. But God loved us so much.   He made a way for his only son to willingly die in our place as the perfect substitute. This gives us hope of life forever in right relationship with him. That is good news.   Jesus lived the perfect life we could never live and died in our place for our sin. This was God's plan to make a way to reconcile with us so that God can look at us and see Jesus. We can be covered and justified through the work Jesus finished if we choose to receive what he has done for us.   Romans 10:9 says, that if you confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. So, would you pray with me now? Heavenly Father, thank you for sending Jesus to take our place.   I pray someone today right now is touched and chooses to turn their life over to you. Will you clearly guide them and help them take their next step in faith to declare you as Lord of their life? We trust you to work and change lives now for eternity.   In Jesus name we pray. Amen. If you prayed that prayer, you are declaring him for me, so me for him.   You get the opportunity to live your life for him. And at this podcast, we're called The Savvy Sauce for a reason. We want to give you practical tools to implement the knowledge you have learned.   So, you ready to get started? First, tell someone. Say it out loud.   Get a Bible. The first day I made this decision, my parents took me to Barnes & Noble and let me choose my own Bible. I selected the Quest NIV Bible and I love it.   You can start by reading the book of John. Also, get connected locally, which just means tell someone who's a part of a church in your community that you made a decision to follow Christ. I'm assuming they will be thrilled to talk with you about further steps such as going to church and getting connected to other believers to encourage you.   We want to celebrate with you too, so feel free to leave a comment for us here if you did make a decision to follow Christ. We also have show notes included where you can read scripture that describes this process. And finally, be encouraged.   Luke 15:10 says, in the same way I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents. The heavens are praising with you for your decision today. And if you've already received this good news, I pray you have someone to share it with.   You are loved and I look forward to meeting you here next time.

History Rage
265. We Need to Get Over Jack the Ripper with Hallie Rubenhold

History Rage

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 12, 2026 46:45


Why the Jack the Ripper legend is completely useless.Get ready to hear the truth behind the headlines with social historian Hallie Rubenhold. Her groundbreaking book, The Five, challenges everything you thought you knew about the case by focusing on the victims, not the killer.Hallie explains why the endless speculation about Jack the Ripper's identity is "useless" and built on "pure mythology". As a trained museum curator, she argues that applying modern DNA testing is impossible due to tainted evidence and a lack of provenance for objects. The real "restorative justice," she argues, comes from understanding the lives of the women themselves.Discover the shocking reality of the five women's lives, which were far more complex than the common "prostitute" label suggests. Hallie reveals that only two of the women, Elizabeth Stride and Mary Jane Kelly, were known to engage in sex work. You'll learn:Polly Nichols was the daughter of a blacksmith who left her husband and children after they secured a home in one of London's first social housing buildings.Annie Chapman came from a surprisingly middle-class background, with a father who served in the Queen's lifeguard. Her life was tragically impacted by her struggle with alcoholism.Elizabeth Stride was born in Sweden and was known to be a "con artist".Catherine Eddowes came from a large family and had a difficult, nomadic existence, traveling the country selling ballads with her partner.Mary Jane Kelly, the youngest victim, may have had a different name and was said to be a skilled artist—an accomplishment reserved for the middle class at the time.Hallie argues that the Victorian press and police unfairly labelled these women based on moral judgment, and that this same bias influenced investigations much like it did with the Yorkshire Ripper case decades later. The true value of history, she says, is not to romanticize the past but to "shock" us with the "ugly shit" of truth.Join us and rage against the myths that have long obscured the truth. Guest InformationLearn more about Hallie's work and get your copy of The Five here: https://uk.bookshop.org/a/10120/9781784162344Follow Hallie Rubenhold on social media: @hallierubenhold.Support History Rage on PatreonIf you're enjoying this episode, please consider supporting the show. Your support helps us to continue to produce well-researched episodes and bring you unique and compelling conversations with experts who are as passionate and angry about history as we are!As a thank you, you'll receive access to a range of exclusive benefits, including:Exclusive Content: Access to bonus episodes and behind-the-scenes content.Early Access: Be the first to listen to new episodes before anyone else.The Iconic History Rage Mug: Show your support with some exclusive merchandise.Join the History Rage community here: patreon.com/historyrage.Stay connected with History RageTwitter: @HistoryRageFacebook: History RageInstagram: @historyrageFrom all of us at History Rage, stay curious, stay passionate, and above all—stay angry! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Psycho Killer: Shocking True Crime Stories
A-Z Of Psychopaths: Jack The Ripper – The Phantom Of Whitechapel

Psycho Killer: Shocking True Crime Stories

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 24, 2025 4:55 Transcription Available


Unmasking the psychology behind London's most infamous phantom.In this 5-minute deep dive into criminal history, journalist and true crime storyteller Simon Ford revisits the most famous unsolved murder spree of all time.Jack the Ripper murdered at least five women—Mary Ann Nichols, Annie Chapman, Elizabeth Stride, Catherine Eddowes, and Mary Jane Kelly—in a frenzy of theatrical brutality that shocked Victorian London. But beyond the myth, the fog, and the fear… who was he? This episode explores:The killings and their escalating violenceWhy the identity of Jack the Ripper remains fiercely debatedOur long-form investigation into prime suspect Robert D'Onston StephensonThe behavioural traits that strongly suggest psychopathy.For the full investigation, listen to:Jack the Ripper: Psycho or Satanist? Next in the series: K is for Kuklinski — The Iceman.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/psycho-killer-shocking-true-crime-stories--5005712/support.

Bookclub
Hallie Rubenhold

Bookclub

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 2, 2025 27:45


Presented by James Naughtie, the writer and historian Hallie Rubenhold takes questions from a Bookclub audience on her prize-winning book The Five: The Untold Lives Of The Women Killed by Jack The Ripper. The book shines a light on Polly Nichols, Annie Chapman, Elizabeth Stride, Kate Eddowes and Mary Jane Kelly who were all murdered in Whitechapel, London, in 1888. The Five won the Ballie-Gifford Prize for non-fiction in 2019.This episode was recorded at The Queen's Reading Room Festival at Chatsworth House in Derbyshire. Producer: Dominic Howell Editor: Gillian WheelanThis was a BBC Audio Scotland production.

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The Savvy Sauce
271_Ways to Engage with Youth Teens and Gen Z in Church and at Home with Dr. Kara Powell

The Savvy Sauce

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2025 52:46


271. Ways to Engage with Youth, Teens, and Gen Z in Church and at Home with Dr. Kara Powell   *Transcription Below*   1 Thessalonians 2:8 NIV "so we cared for you. Because we loved you so much, we were delighted to share with you not only the gospel of God but our lives as well."   Kara Powell, PhD, is the chief of leadership formation at Fuller Theological Seminary, the executive director of the Fuller Youth Institute, and the founder of the TENx10 Collaboration. Named by Christianity Today as one of "50 Women to Watch," Kara serves as a youth and family strategist for Orange, and she also speaks regularly at national parenting and leadership conferences. Kara has authored or coauthored numerous books, including Faith Beyond Youth Group, 3 Big Questions That Shape Your Future, 3 Big Questions That Change Every Teenager, Growing With, Growing Young, The Sticky Faith Guide for Your Family, and the entire Sticky Faith series.   Kara and her husband, Dave, are regularly inspired by the learning and laughter that come from their three young adult children.   Questions and Topics We Cover: What insights do you have to share on Gen-Z? When it comes to navigating intergenerational tensions, how can we practically turn our differences into superpowers and unite together? In your most recent book, entitled, Future-Focused Church, you begin with writing that the brightest days of the church are still ahead. What led you to that realization?   Thank You to Our Sponsor: WinShape Marriage   Other Episodes Mentioned from The Savvy Sauce: 127 Generational Differences with Hayden Shaw 2 God-Honoring Relationship Between a Mother-in-Law and Daughter-in-Law with Author of The Mother-in-Law Dance, Annie Chapman   Stories Sampler from The Savvy Sauce Stories Series: 233 Stories Series: Surprises from God with Tiffany Noel 235 Stories Series: Ever-Present Help in Trouble with Kent Heimer 242 Stories Series: He Gives and Takes Away with Joyce Hodel 245 Stories Series: Miracles Big and Small with Dr. Rob Rienow 246 Stories Series: Experiencing God's Tangible Love with Jen Moore   Gospel Scripture: (all NIV) Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,”   Romans 3:24 “and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.”   Romans 3:25 (a) “God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood.”    Hebrews 9:22 (b) “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.”    Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”    Romans 5:11 “Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.”    John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”   Romans 10:9 “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.”    Luke 15:10 says “In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”   Romans 8:1 “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus”   Ephesians 1:13–14 “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession- to the praise of his glory.”   Ephesians 1:15–23 “For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.”   Ephesians 2:8–10 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God‘s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.“   Ephesians 2:13 “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.“   Philippians 1:6 “being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.”   *Transcription*   Music: (0:00 – 0:11)   Laura Dugger: (0:12 - 2:13) Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, where we have practical chats for intentional living. I'm your host, Laura Dugger, and I'm so glad you're here.    I'm thrilled to introduce you to our sponsor, Winshape Marriage. Their weekend marriage retreats will strengthen your marriage while you enjoy the gorgeous setting, delicious food, and quality time with your spouse. To find out more, visit them online at winshapemarriage.org.    I am so honored to introduce my guest for today, Dr. Kara Powell. She is the Chief of Leadership Formation at Fuller Theological Seminary and the Executive Director of the Fuller Youth Institute. She's also founder of the 10x10 Collaboration and named by today as one of 50 women to watch. She is also extremely humble and insightful as she's going to discuss how we can leverage the power of stories and questions in our relationships at church and in our family and in beyond, and this is to model the life of Jesus. Make sure you also stay tuned in through the end because she's going to share a plethora of conversations and questions specifically to ask when we're engaging in conversation with young people, whether that's our own children and teens or our grandchildren or people in the community or our churches. It's some questions that you don't want to miss. Here's our chat.   Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, Kara.   Dr. Kara Powell: (2:07 - 2:09) Oh, it's so good to be with you and your audience, Laura.   Laura Dugger: (2:09 - 2:13) Well, I'd love for you just to first give us a snapshot of your current life and share what's led you to the work that you get to do today.   Dr. Kara Powell: (2:14 - 4:06) Yeah, absolutely. So, let's see. I'll start with family. Dave and I have been married for I think 27-ish years, and we have three kids who are 24, 22, and 19.   Our youngest is a college freshman, and so we're technically empty nesters, but I actually like the term open nesters better because our kids come back, which we love. They come back in the summers and sometimes after college. And we actually, since I live in Pasadena, California, which had the fires in January, we actually have another 22-year-old young woman living with us, which we love.   So, we love having my husband, Dave, and I love having young people around, whether it's our own three kids or the young woman who's living with us. And I'm also a faculty member at Fuller Seminary, and while I certainly teach periodically, my main roles at Fuller actually have to do with leadership beyond Fuller. I'm the chief of leadership formation at Fuller, so I oversee all of Fuller's non-degree offerings, and then I'm the executive director of the Fuller Youth Institute, which is a research center that studies the faith of adolescents.   And I love that question, what got me to the work that I do today? Well, God would be the answer to that, but I was a long-term youth pastor here in Southern California at two different churches, loved teenagers, and Fuller was getting ready to start a new research center that was going to listen to the needs of parents and leaders, and then do research to answer those needs. And that really intrigued me, because I love young people, and I love research, and I love real-life ministry and family.   And so, I thought, well, I would love to hear more about that center, and I've been at Fuller now for over 20 years.   Laura Dugger: (4:07 - 4:17) Wow, that's incredible. And quick side note, I'm just so sorry for everything that you all endured in January with all the fires.   Dr. Kara Powell: (4:17 - 4:39) Yeah, it's heartbreaking, and in some ways, in many ways, devastating. And I'm grateful for how God is working through churches and working through God's people. So, there's all sorts of bright spots in the midst of the pain.   But yes, please pray that churches and God's people would be salt and light, because it's going to be a few years of rebuilding.   Laura Dugger: (440 - 4:43) Yes, Lord Jesus, may that be true. Amen.   Dr. Kara Powell: (4:43 - 4:44) Yeah, thank you.   Laura Dugger: (4:45 - 5:17) And I know with your background, you've studied practical theology, and you also have this broad knowledge of psychology. But some churches haven't studied psychology as much, and so I think that typically leads to less of an appreciation for it. But my fear is that they may miss out if they completely ignore it.   So, will you share some of the benefits that you've seen that come from applying God's truth from any of theologies?   Dr. Kara Powell: (5:17 - 8:14) Yeah, yeah. Well, at Fuller Seminary, we have two schools. One is our School of Mission and Theology, which I'm an alum of and a faculty member in.   And the other is our School of Psychology. And so, Laura, you asked a question that's right at the heart of what we love about training leaders and therapists. And in fact, my favorite statue at Fuller, the title of it is Planting the Cross in the Heart of Psychology.   And that's exactly what we believe. So, you know, God's made us as holistic people. And I love thinking both about how is our theology driving us as well as our psychology.   And you know, one way to think about our psychology, a colleague of mine at Fuller talks about people's losses and longings. And that phrase has been so helpful for me. Like, what are people's losses and longings?   And how is that connected with how they're responding? So, so much of our work at the Fuller Youth Institute relates to young people. And I remember coaching a senior pastor who was experiencing a lot of resistance to prioritizing young people from senior adults.   And what the senior pastor realized is, of course, I shouldn't say of course, but in this particular church, when he was saying we need to prioritize young people, those over 60 felt like, wait, that means I'm not going to be a priority. People who are older often already feel that here in US culture. And so, no wonder that was intimidating, that was threatening, that felt like a loss to those senior adults.   And so, I love what the senior pastor ended up doing is he implemented one of our principles of change that we recommend, which is people support what they create. And so, if you want to build ownership, then how can you involve as many people as possible in creating whatever you're trying to develop? And so, the senior pastor went to the senior adults and apologized for sending a message that, you know, made them feel like they were not going to be priority.   And instead, he said, how can we make this church a church that your grandkids would love to be part of? And that connected with those, you know, post 60, most of whom were grandparents, whether their grandkids live locally, or, you know, globally, they wanted their church to be a place where their grandkids and other young people would connect. And so, you know, he turned senior adults feeling like they were peripheral, to really feeling like they were partners in what God was doing in the church.   And so, yes, I would invite us all to think about what are people's losses and longings? And how is that contributing to how they're responding to whatever we're all experiencing?   Laura Dugger: (8:15 - 10:20) Let's take a quick break to hear a message from our sponsor. Friends, I'm excited to share with you today's sponsor, Winshape Marriage. Do you feel like you need a weekend away with your spouse and a chance to grow in your relationship together at the same time?   Winshape Marriage is a fantastic ministry that provides weekend marriage retreats to help couples grow closer together in every season and stage of life. From premarital to parenting to the empty nest phase, there is an opportunity for you. Winshape Marriage is grounded on the belief that the strongest marriages are the ones that are nurtured, even when it seems things are going smoothly, so that they're stronger if they do hit a bump along their marital journey.   These weekend retreats are hosted within the beautiful refuge of Winshape Retreat, perched in the mountains of Rome, Georgia, which is a short drive from Atlanta, Birmingham and Chattanooga. While you're there, you will be well fed, well nurtured and well cared for. During your time away in this beautiful place, you and your spouse will learn from expert speakers and explore topics related to intimacy, overcoming challenges, improving communication and more.   I've stayed on Winshape before and I can attest to their generosity, food and content. You will be so grateful you went. To find an experience that's right for you and your spouse, head to their website, windshapemarriage.org/savvy. That's W-I-N-S-H-A-P-E marriage.org/S-A-V-V-Y. Thanks for your sponsorship.   Well, Kara, you've also done so much research on young people and just in general, I'd love to hear what insights do you have on Gen Z?   Dr. Kara Powell: (10:20 - 14:16) Yeah, yeah. Well, we at the Fuller Youth Institute, we have spent a lot of time studying and doing research on Gen Z, which tends to be those who are 14, 15 and up. Our very youngest teenagers are all actually now Gen Alpha, but we'll talk about Gen Z.   And as we've looked at the research, we've landed on three words which we think well describe Gen Z. First, they are anxious. And if we look at young people today, they do have unprecedented levels of mental health challenges, anxiety, depression, stress, even suicidal thoughts.   And so, we do a lot of training to help parents and leaders understand mental health and how they can be a safe space and get young people the help they need. So, this is an anxious generation. This is an adaptive generation.   This generation is so creative and entrepreneurial and visionary. You know, while there's a lot of downsides to technology, technology also helps young people know more about what's wrong in the world and sometimes take steps to make what is wrong right and restore God's justice to our world. And so, this is an adaptive and creative generation.   And then in addition to being anxious and adaptive, this is a diverse generation. Here in the U.S., we crossed a line in 2020. In the midst of everything else that happened in 2020, we crossed a line where now 50% of those under 18 are young people of color.   So, for your audience to just keep that in mind that 50% of those under 18 are white and 50% are young people of color and that percentage of young people of color is likely going to continue to grow. So, I would say those are three key attributes to this generation. And then, you know, when it comes to what this generation is experiencing spiritually, I really appreciate what my friend and fellow podcaster Carey Nieuwhof has described with young people that they are both in revival and retreat.   And, you know, we see data for both. There's so much that's encouraging about how young people are responding to Jesus. They're open to Jesus.   We're seeing this especially on college campuses. They're responding in mass on college campuses in some really beautiful ways. Both InterVarsity and Crew are seeing that.   But then this generation is also in some ways distancing themselves from the institutional church. Springtide Research Institute did some study of 13- to 25-year-olds and found that 13- to 25-year-olds in the U.S. are almost three times as likely to say they've been hurt by organized religion as trust organized religion. So, our 13- to 25-year-olds are distrustful, a little cynical about institutional religion.   And so, we have our work cut out for us to build trust back. And let me just say, sadly, we have earned young people's lack of trust by the way that by our moral failures, by the way that we have not been as loving as Jesus wants us to be and as young people want us to be. And so, the good news is the way that we re-earn trust with young people is by little acts of kindness and consistency.   So, anybody listening can rebuild trust with a young person. The research on trust shows it's not about heroic acts. It's about sending a text and saying, hey, I'm praying for you.   It's about remembering a young person's name at church. It's about showing up at a young person's soccer game. So, in the midst of this generation and being both revival and retreat, there are practical steps that any adult can take.   Laura Dugger: (14:17 - 14:36) Wow, that's so good. You've got ideas now coming to me for how to pour into even the youth group. This is probably a very random idea, but how great would it be to have a Google calendar of all of their events and then whoever in the church is available to go support? That would just be a practical way.   Dr. Kara Powell: (14:36 - 15:45) Okay, so, Laura, you have just named actually one of my favorite ideas that a church that is here in Los Angeles is doing. They created a Google calendar and volunteers as well as parents can add information. But then what this church did, they started with a Google calendar and then it's a church of about 300 people.   And so, they have now started every Sunday morning. They have a slide with what's happening in young people's lives for the next week. So-and-so is in a play.   So-and-so has a basketball game. So-and-so has a Boy Scout activity. And so, adults in the church, often senior adults who have some extra time, are showing up at kids' events.   Plus, every week they're prioritizing young people. So, when you're a young person in that church and every week there's a slide about you and your friends and what's happening, that says something to the young people sitting there. So, yeah, you're-I actually love that idea.   And especially for smaller churches, I think that's one of the big advantages of smaller churches is we can be more intimate and caring. So, yes, let's please do that.   Laura Dugger: (15:46 - 16:00) Oh, that's so good. I love hearing how that played out. And now I'm also curious because you mentioned it's Gen Alpha behind.   Do you have any insight onto them as well?   Dr. Kara Powell: (16:00 - 16:27) Well, you're going to have to have me back because we are just-we received a grant from the Lilly Endowment, who's funded much of our research to study Gen Alpha. And they're just getting old enough that we really can, quite honestly. And so, like literally this week we are working on survey questions for Gen Alpha.   And we'll have more in the next year about what's similar between Gen Z and Gen Alpha, as well as what's different. So, I'd rather wait and save that for later.   Laura Dugger: (16:28 - 16:34) That sounds great. I'm especially interested in that generation. That is all four of our daughters would fall within that. So, I can't wait to hear your findings.   Dr. Kara Powell: (16:34 - 16:36) Yeah.   Laura Dugger: (16:38 - 17:15) And I think it's also bringing up, I'm going to link to a previous episode, Generational Differences with Hayden Shaw, because I don't know if you feel this same way. I think millennials especially got pegged as the generational bias put on them was actually confused with their life stage. And Hayden's the one who wrote about that and drew that to our attention.   So, that's helpful to sift out as we're thinking of young people too, because sometimes older generations can look down on younger generations and see some of the shortcomings. Do you see that as well?   Dr. Kara Powell: (17:16 - 18:55) Oh, for sure. For sure. I think we compare young people to who we are now instead of remembering our 13 and 19 and 25 year old self.   And so, I mean, that's one of our biggest pieces of advice when it comes to young people is instead of judging them, how do we journey with them? How do we really empathize with what they're experiencing? And when we are tempted to judge young people, let's just start at, well, let's just stop and ask ourselves, would we want to be a young person today?   It's so very challenging to be a young person today. I mean, mental health alone, like if I think about my tendency to, as a teenager myself, to compare myself with others, to be worried that I was left out. I mean, if there was a cell phone that showed me everything my friends were doing without me, and I'm stuck at home, like no wonder that young people feel more anxious.   I think I would really be struggling with anxiety if I was a teenager now. I mean, honestly, even at my age, I don't check social media on Friday night or Saturday night, because I might be, Dave and I might be having leftovers and either working or watching a movie on Netflix. And I go on social media and my friends are out with their husbands and having this phenomenal time.   And at my age, that makes me feel insecure, let alone imagine being a 13 or 18- or 22-year-old and navigating that. So, so yes, I think how can we empathize instead of finger point?   Laura Dugger: (18:56 - 19:12) Oh, and you write about how to navigate intergenerational tensions. How can we practically turn our differences into superpowers and unite together? And I guess, especially in the church?   Dr. Kara Powell: (19:12 - 22:39) Yeah, yeah, great question. So, one of our books is called Three Big Questions That Change Every Teenager. And we studied young people to try to understand the deep questions driving them.   And we landed on three. Identity, who am I? Belonging, where do I fit? And purpose, what difference can I make?   Identity, belonging and purpose. And those are that's such a helpful framework to understand young people and to empathize with them.   First off, I would say all of us are wrestling with identity, belonging and purpose. And when I feel emotional heat about an issue, if I feel insecure about something, it's usually because it's pricking at my identity, belonging or purpose. And so, that helps us realize that we navigate those questions, too.   But then also for the we who are parents, stepparents, grandparents, mentors of young people, you know, if a young person we care about is doing something that feels a little odd, a little askew, a little bit, that's not like them. If we can take a step back and ask, OK, what are they wrestling with? Is it identity?   Is it belonging? Is it purpose? That helps us empathize and know how to either ask a better question or, you know, give a little bit of hope rooted in whether that's rooted in scripture or in our own experience.   And so, yes, with our with our three kids, when I take a step back and ask, OK, they're saying something that feels odd or unlike them or I'm surprised this is provoking this response in them. Is it is it their identity, belonging or purpose that's at play here? It's like the penny drops and I come to understand.   So, I would say, you know, if we can wear those identity, belonging and purpose lenses, that really helps us understand young people. The other thing and, you know, I'm a professor, so I would give myself about a C plus in what I'm going to share next. OK, so if this is something I'm working on, it's this it's never make a statement if you can ask a question instead, never make a statement if you can ask a question instead.   And so, the more that we can ask questions about what young people are experiencing, like why, why, you know, in a very nonjudgmental way, like I'm just curious. And I start a lot of my questions with that. I'm curious.   I'm curious, like what does tick tock mean to you? Then, you know, that that can open up a real conversation instead of them feeling like we're somehow judging them for their technological use. I was proud of myself yesterday.   Like I said, I give myself about a C plus on this. But yesterday I was talking to my daughter about something. And I asked her, like, well, because she had stepped up to lead something.   And so instead of offering my advice, I said to her, well, you know, what do you think you did well as you were leading? And is there anything that you would want to do differently? And we were in the line of a fast-food place.   And I thought, yes, way to go. I ask questions instead of making statements, instead of offering my opinion. So, and sometimes we have to offer our opinion, for sure.   But just as a general rule, we can ask questions, especially the older our kids get. They respond to that better than us always sharing what we think.   Laura Dugger: (22:39 - 22:47) Well, and I also think you're even modeling this in the way you share stories is humility. So, when you partner that together, that seems very powerful.   Dr. Kara Powell: (22:48 - 23:53) Yeah, yeah, absolutely. My one of my kids said something so interesting. At Mother's Day, my husband asked each of them to share something that they appreciated about me and which was wonderful to receive that affirmation.   And one of them and I I'm not going to reveal the gender here because I haven't asked this child permission to share this. But what my child said was that I was asking them for advice in a way that made it feel more like we were becoming friends. And I had asked this child for advice in the last couple of months about a couple situations.   And so, again, my kids are 19, 22 and 24. So, you know, it's different with younger kids. But for those of us with older kids, it was significant to this child of mine that I was asking them for advice.   And so, I want to keep doing that. I want to keep doing that. So, because I truly do want their perspective.   Yeah, I truly do want their perspective. And it means something to them when I do.   Laura Dugger: (23:54 - 25:28) Yes, absolutely. And I'm thinking back, this may have been like episode three back in 2018. But I talk with Annie Chapman.   She had written the book, The Mother-in-Law Dance. And what you're saying, she pointed out that what makes us a great parent and especially a great mother, the first half of our children's life or the first portion of our children's life at home, it's the opposite of the latter years. And so, you're right.   You're not probably going to ask your five-year-old for advice. But at your kids' phases, that is significant. Did you know you could receive a free email with monthly encouragement, practical tips and plenty of questions to ask to take your conversation a level deeper, whether that's in parenting or on date nights?   Make sure you access all of this at TheSavvySauce.com by clicking the button that says Join Our Email List so that you can follow the prompts and begin receiving these emails at the beginning of each month. Enjoy.    This discussion with young people is also tied into your recent and optimistic book.   So, I'll hold it up here. It's in and you did co-author this with Jake Mulder and Raymond Chang. So, it's entitled Future-Focused Church, and you begin with writing that the brightest days of the church are still ahead.   So, what led you to this optimistic realization?   Dr. Kara Powell: (25:28 - 26:23) Yeah. Yeah. Well, first, God, you know, this is where being a practical theologian comes into play.   Like I'm always trying to understand what is God up to in this situation and just the way that God is constantly working, redeeming, recreating. So, you know, that's the heart of my optimism and Jake and Ray's optimism as fellow co-authors. And then also Future-Focused Church is based on research we did with over a thousand churches where we journeyed with them in the change process and just the way that they were able to make changes that made them more loving, made them more hospitable to young people.   So, it's, you know, it's people like your listeners and churches like those that your audience is part of. That's what made us optimistic is to see how God is working through actual churches.   Laura Dugger: (26:25 - 26:40) I love that. And even near the beginning, it was on page 26, you succinctly gave a definition of a future-focused church. So, will you share that definition and also elaborate on each one of the facets?   Dr. Kara Powell: (26:40 - 29:17) Yeah, yeah. So, it starts with a group of Jesus followers. And, you know, if you look at the original Greek for church, ekklesia, it's not a building.   We use that phrase incorrectly when we say, you know, I'll meet you at church and we mean a building. It's actually those who are called out or from. So, it's always people in the New Testament.   And so, we believe a church is a group of Jesus followers who seek God's direction together. And that's really important to us is this isn't about what Kara, Jake and Ray think you should do or what the church down the street is doing or even what your denomination is doing. It's you seeking God's direction together.   So, and we could have stopped there, honestly, a group of Jesus followers who seek God's direction together. But then because of the time we've spent with over a thousand churches, because of our commitment to young people, because of what we see happening these days, we added three what we call checkpoints, three things that we think should be priorities for churches these days. One is relationally discipling young people.   And, you know, we were intentionally using the words relationally discipling. It's not just entertaining. It's not just standing near young people at worship service.   But how are we actually investing in young people? And then secondly, modeling kingdom diversity. Again, if you look at our country ethnically and racially, we are a diverse country.   And so, how can we model that? How can our churches reflect what our neighborhoods are? And then thirdly, tangibly loving our neighbors.   Jesus said that, you know, they will know that we are Christians by our love for another, for each other, as well as our love for neighbors. And so, how can we make sure that we are really a place that is salt and light? As I mentioned, you know, we are trying to be in Pasadena as churches these days as we're recovering from the fires.   So, we encourage churches to look at those three checkpoints in particular. But then again, we want churches to figure out what God is inviting them towards. So, maybe that's more prayer.   Maybe that's being more involved globally in evangelism, you know, whatever it might be. Seek that direction together. But then what we try to do is give a map to get there, because a lot of churches know what they want to change, but don't know how to bring about change.   And so, that's actually what the bulk of our book is about, is helping leaders know how to move their church from here to God's direction for them.   Laura Dugger: (29:18 - 30:27) And that's incredible that you walked with so many churches through that process. But I was especially encouraged by you being partial to sharing stories. And so, we recently did an entire stories series on The Savvy Sauce, and it was so compelling and faith building.   I can link to a sample of those in the show notes. But you write about stories shaping culture. And I just I want to share your quote and then ask you how we can actually implement this.   So, your quote is from page 57, where you write, “Organizational culture is best communicated and illustrated by stories. As well modeled by Jesus, one of the best ways to shift the culture of a church is through the disciplined and consistent telling of clear and compelling stories that invite a different culture and way of being.” So, Kara, how have you seen this done well?   Dr. Kara Powell: (30:27 - 33:10) Yeah, yeah. Well, I think about whatever system we're in, whether it's our families or whether it's our churches or whatever organization we're in. Yeah, our stories become really the key messages of what our culture is.   And so, I want to go back to that church that we were talking about that had a Google calendar and now does a Sunday announcement every week of kids' events. Well, that church is also capturing stories of the 81-year-old who showed up at the 16-year-old soccer game, who didn't even know her all that well, but just had a free Thursday afternoon and knew that she was playing. And the pastor who was also on the sidelines at that soccer game, who ended up talking to both the parents of the 16-year-old and the 81-year-old.   And so, that became a story for that church of how different generations are supporting young people. And so, that pastor has told that story multiple, multiple times. You know, I just think about in our family, our kids love hearing our stories.   And that's part of how they I mean, it's a big, a big theme and how they come to know what it means to be a Powell. So, you know, earlier I said, you know, I said, never make a statement if you can ask a question instead. I think the exception to that, Laura, is if we're going to tell a story because stories communicate so much.   One of our one of our children is struggling with being anxious about something. And I was anxious last night. I never lose sleep.   I so rarely lose sleep. But I did last night. I was up for about an hour and a half in the middle of the night, finally ended up having a prayer time.   And that helped me go back to sleep. But I'm looking forward to telling my child, who's also struggling with anxiety, that story of me experiencing some, you know, 3:00 a.m. anxiety and what eventually helped me is kind of reflecting on a mantra I feel like God's given me. And I want to share that with my child, not to nag them, but just to let them know that, you know, in our family, this is how we want to try to respond to anxiety.   And maybe my story can be helpful for you the next time that you're struggling with it, which might be today. So, so, yes, the more that we can share our present and our past experiences, whether it's as individuals, families, organizations, the more that we communicate the cultural values that we want.   Laura Dugger: (33:11 - 33:45) That's so good. And I love how you're relating that to parents as well, because from the very youngest ages, tell me a story. And if it's like if we remember a story of them when they're a child, they just grasp onto that.   And we when we're tired at the end of the night, if we run out of our stories, we love even just reading aloud true stories of other people, too. OK, and I'm partnering then thinking of stories and one of your facets about I love how you said it. I'd love for you to repeat. Is it strategically discipling, relationally discipling?   Dr. Kara Powell: (33:45 - 33:46) Yeah.   Laura Dugger: (33:46 - 35:03) OK, so my brother and sister's church, I'm just going to highlight theirs because I love something that both of them are doing with our nieces and nephews. They just have them, the youth, write down three names of somebody in a different generation above theirs that they would enjoy getting to know, spending time with. And then they get matched with one of those people and they enter a yearlong mentorship relationship.   And I'm just thinking, one, their mentors all happen to be open nesters. And the male and female who have mentored our nieces and nephews, the female took our nieces, would send them a copy of a recipe, say, get these groceries this week. I'm coming to your house on Tuesday and we're going to cook all of this together and have it ready for your family dinner.   Just so practical and that they just build a love for each other. And then a similar thing with our nephews, where whatever that mentor's skill was, he was great at even making, I think, wood fired pizzas and just showing them practical skills, but relationally investing. And you see the youth's growth and maturity from that discipleship.   Dr. Kara Powell: (35:03 - 36:17) So, yeah, that's awesome. And not only the young people, but the adults, too. Like what's been so great, Laura, is, you know, while much of our research has looked at how adults change young people and how churches change young people, every time we study that, we see how young people change adults and churches, too.   So, you know, for that male and female who are mentoring your nieces and nephews, how they come to understand more about themselves, God, life, scripture, as they're spending time with young people, that's just really, really powerful. So, I also want to highlight, I love how your example, how it starts by asking young people, like who are some adults that you would like to spend more time with that you look up to? And, you know, we would do that with our kids when we needed babysitters.   Like who are some adults that you would like to get to know and how wonderful then that we could ask those adults, especially if they were of babysitting age, to come and be with our kids. And that way we were getting the babysitting we needed and our kids were getting the mentoring that they needed. So, so, yes, I think, you know, giving a young person some agency and who they spend time with, that's really beautiful in that example.   Laura Dugger: (36:18 - 36:21) Oh, that's and that's genius for a family life.   Dr. Kara Powell: (36:21 - 36:22) Yeah, exactly, exactly.   Laura Dugger: (36:23 - 36:39) Well, you also share some other helpful tips for churches, such as considering questions like, would anyone miss our church if it closed down? So, do you have any other practical tips that you want to make sure we don't miss?   Dr. Kara Powell: (36:39 - 40:19) Yeah, yeah. I think, yeah, I'll offer a few questions that we have found really helpful. And I'll start with questions when your kids are in elementary and then I'll give a couple of questions when your kids are older.   So, so one of the questions that we love asking at dinner when our kids were in elementary was, how did you see God at work today? And I will say that when I first raised that question, one of my daughters said, “Well, mommy, I can't answer that question. And I said, why not?”   She said, “Well, I don't have a job. How did you see God at work today? So, then we had to say, well, how did you see God working today?”   And I, you know, and equally important as our kids asking that question is that we were, excuse me, as our kids answering that question is that we were answering that question. And so, so, you know, any way that you can involve meaningful sharing, whether it's a dinner, whether it's a bedtime and that you are sharing, too. So, so that that's been a great one for our family.   And then when your kids get older, a couple come to mind. One is two pairs of questions actually come to mind. One is, you know, the phrase never make a statement.   Maybe you can ask the question said sometimes we do need to offer our advice as parents, our perspective. And I have found when I do that with my kids is now that they're late young adults, if I ask them first, well, what do you disagree with and what I said and give them an opportunity to critique what I said, then and then I ask a second question. OK, well, what might you agree with and what I said?   They're far more open to sharing what they agree with if they first have had a chance to critique me. So, I offer that as in those moments when you do need to offer your opinion or perspective, how can we still make it a dialogue? One way is to invite your kid to critique you.   And they'll probably point out things that you do need to reconsider, or at least it's good to hear those from your young person. Another pair of questions that that I have found so helpful with our kids is as they get older and really come to own their own faith. I love asking our kids, what do you now believe that you think I don't believe?   And what do you no longer believe that you think I still believe? So, what do you now believe that you think I don't believe? And what do you no longer believe that you think I still believe?   What I love about that is that it's making overt that our faith is going to continue to change and grow. And that's true for all of us. And it also makes differences discussable, because I'd far rather know how my kids' faith is changing and how it's different or similar than mine than not know.   And, you know, as we've asked our kids those questions over the years, sometimes their answer is like, not much has changed. Like, you know, but other times they do have different opinions that they want to share with me. And then I try to have that non-defensive, oh, OK, well, I'm curious.   Then again, starting phrase with I'm curious and then asking a question has given us some of the best conversations. So, you can get really tangible. How did you see God at work today?   But then as your kids get older, ask questions that that are more open-ended and can help you really understand where your kids are at.   Laura Dugger: (40:20 - 41:15) I love that.    And I'm just thinking if people are listening like I listen to podcasts, it's when I'm on the go, when I'm doing a walk in the morning or if I'm cleaning around the house. And if you don't get a chance to take notes, we do have transcripts available now for all these episodes, but I would think so many people have written in about dialogue and questions for teenagers and how to handle.   And I love the way you responded to all of that. So, even grab the transcript and write down those questions and try them at dinner or bedtime tonight. But then even thinking of churches for practical tips, what do you have as far as hospitality and the impact that it could make if we're building relationships through hospitality?   But you also call out three ways to build relationships through sharing meals, sharing stories and sharing experiences.   Dr. Kara Powell: (41:15 - 43:08) Yeah, absolutely. You know, I think you've named it, Laura. How do we have a hospitable, open heart and open churches?   And I just want to go back to this question. Like, is our church a place that our kids and our grandkids would want to be part of? And if we keep asking that question, I think it helps us prioritize the next generation and make space for them at our meals, within our stories and within our experiences.   Now, I will say this, you know, I talk so much about intergenerational relationships and bringing the generations together. Like, I do think there's a time and a place for 16-year-olds to be on their own and 46-year-olds to be on their own and 76-year-olds to be on their own. It's just finding that balance of when do we bring all the generations together?   And then when do we want to have those special life development, life stage development conversations ourselves? And most churches are swinging far more toward we keep generations separate and need to swing the pendulum back to how can we have shared meals together? How can we serve together in ways that are shared?   And, you know, I'll just say this last thought when it comes to sharing experiences, especially those that are service. You know, a lot of churches have young people who are serving. They're in children's ministry, they're in sound, they're in tech, etc.   And that's awesome. And I think the question becomes, like, how can that young person be more than just a warm body who passes out graham crackers? And how can I think, OK, I'm teaching third graders and I'm also trying to mentor this 15-year-old who's working with me with the third graders and same with sound.   So, you know, anytime you're interacting with young people, it's an opportunity to influence, especially as you're sharing more about yourself.   Laura Dugger: (43:10 - 43:15) Love that. And you seem like an idea person as well. So, I'm going to bounce another idea.   Dr. Kara Powell: (43:16 - 43:16) Yeah.   Laura Dugger: (43:16 - 43:45) What I'm gathering is obviously we're keeping Jesus at the center and you're not downplaying the need for scripture or Bible study. And those kind of things but also adding there is value in I'm thinking shared experience. Specifically, I'm thinking of pickleball.   It's something that appeals to a wide age range. What if your church had invested in a pickleball sport to do something that could bring people together? So, what are your thoughts on that?     Dr. Kara Powell: (43:45 - 45:22) Yeah. Yeah. Pickleball, you know, senior adults who need tech help from teenagers.   That's another great way to connect people. I mean, any kind of shared interest 1 Thessalonians 2:8 is such an important scripture passage for me when it comes to discipleship. And Paul writes that we were delighted to share with you not just the gospel, but our very lives.   And so, how can we share life, whether it's pickleball, whether it's pizza? I'm running out of alliteration here. I was trying to do something else that started with P.   And for leaders who are listening, how can you take what you're already doing and make it more intergenerational? So, that's the other thing we like to tell churches is whether it's pickleball or whether it's well, we're already serving at the local homeless center to help people who are unhoused. Well, instead of that only being a youth event, maybe make that an all church event and see if adults come who can be mentoring young people.   So, you know, I love what one church did. Many churches have done this, actually, when they're looking for small group for homes where small groups can be for young people instead of going to like the parents of the teenagers. What if we go to our senior adults or our open or slash empty nesters and see if they'll open their homes?   Because then it's bringing more adults into contact with young people. And those adults who open their homes can also open their lives. So, yeah, just continuing to ask, how can we make this more of a connection across generations?   Goodness.   Laura Dugger: (45:22 - 45:39) And you have so many ideas and some of these are mentioned in this book, but you've also written many more helpful resources. So, will you give us an overview of the other books that you've authored and share a bit of what we might find if we read? Dr. Kara Powell: (45:39 - 46:42) Yeah. So, our most recent book, as you've mentioned, is Future Focus Church, and that's especially geared to help leaders know how to move a ministry from where they are now to where God wants it to be. It's been so great to journey with leaders through that.   Probably our best book that offers a ton of questions you can ask young people is Three Big Questions That Change Every Teenager, where we get into identity, belonging and purpose, which I mentioned. And we have over 300 questions that an adult, whether it's a family member or a mentor or a neighbor or congregant can use with young people. And then the last one I'll offer is The Sticky Faith Guide for Your Family comes out of our previous Sticky Faith research.   How do you help young people have faith that lasts? We have a special chapter in that book for grandparents. So, for any grandparents who are listening, that whole book and that chapter is a great resource.   But also we have had a lot of parents, stepparents say that The Sticky Faith Guide for Your Family has been one of their favorite books.   Laura Dugger: (46:43 - 47:02) That's incredible. I'll have to link to those in the show notes for today's episode. But I'm sure you're aware we are called The Savvy Sauce because Savvy is anonymous with practical knowledge.   And so, as my final question for you today, what is your Savvy Sauce?   Dr. Kara Powell: (47:03 - 48:16) That's a really good question, Laura. OK, I'll say I'll share the first thing that came to mind when you asked it. Gosh, probably 10 or 12 years ago, I read a book and from the book I adapted a phrase for my work life and my personal life, which is if it's not a definite yes, it's a no.   As a busy mom, as a busy employee, as a busy leader, I see potential in so many things. And so, I want to say yes to so many things. And then I end up tired.   I end up empty. I end up not being able to say yes to something maybe better that comes a month later because I've already committed to, you know, plan my seventh graders camping trip or give a talk or, you know, whatever it might be. And so, that phrase, we made it a six-month experiment in the Foley Youth Institute as well as in our family.   Like it's not a definite yes, it's a no. And it really helped us say no to things, trim and I think find a much more manageable pace. So, as we pray, as we pray, it's not a definite yes, it's a no.   That's been game changing for me.   Laura Dugger: (48:17 - 48:57) Well, I love how much you've modeled applying these things at your work or in our church, but also in our family life. It's all transferable. And Kara, this has just been a super special conversation because you've been on my list to have a conversation with for over a decade, probably since I got my hands on Sticky Faith.   And I just appreciate we've been talking as we were praying before we were recording. You desire so much, not only for young people, but for all people to experience this abundant life in Christ. And I'm so grateful for you and just want to say thank you for being my guest.   Dr. Kara Powell: (48:57 - 49:03) Oh, my pleasure, Laura. And thanks to you and how you serve your audience as well as our world. It's been an honor.   Laura Dugger: (49:04 - 52:19) One more thing before you go, have you heard the term gospel before? It simply means good news. And I want to share the best news with you, but it starts with the bad news.    Every single one of us were born sinners, but Christ desires to rescue us from our sin, which is something we cannot do for ourselves. This means there's absolutely no chance we can make it to heaven on our own. So, for you and for me, it means we deserve death and we can never pay back the sacrifice we owe to be saved.    We need a savior, but God loved us so much. He made a way for his only son to willingly die in our place as the perfect substitute. This gives us hope of life forever in right relationship with him.    That is good news. Jesus lived the perfect life. We could never live and died in our place for our sin.    This was God's plan to make a way to reconcile with us so that God can look at us and see Jesus. We can be covered and justified through the work Jesus finished. If we choose to receive what he has done for us, Romans 10:9 says, “that if you confess with your mouth, Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.”    So, you pray with me now. Heavenly father, thank you for sending Jesus to take our place. I pray someone today right now is touched and chooses to turn their life over to you.    Will you clearly guide them and help them take their next step in faith to declare you as Lord of their life? We trust you to work and change lives now for eternity. In Jesus name we pray.   Amen. If you prayed that prayer, you are declaring him for me. So, me for him, you get the opportunity to live your life for him.    And at this podcast, we're called The Savvy Sauce for a reason. We want to give you practical tools to implement the knowledge you have learned. So, you're ready to get started.    First, tell someone, say it out loud, get a Bible. The first day I made this decision, my parents took me to Barnes and Noble and let me choose my own Bible. I selected the Quest NIV Bible and I love it.    You can start by reading the book of John. Also get connected locally, which just means tell someone who's a part of a church in your community that you made a decision to follow Christ. I'm assuming they will be thrilled to talk with you about further steps such as going to church and getting connected to other believers to encourage you.    We want to celebrate with you too. So, feel free to leave a comment for us here. If you did make a decision to follow Christ, we also have show notes included where you can read scripture that describes this process.    And finally, be encouraged. Luke 15:10 says, “in the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.” The heavens are praising with you for your decision today.    And if you've already received this good news, I pray you have someone to share it with. You are loved and I look forward to meeting you here next time.

Moord Podcast
True Crime Feitje van de dag: Annie Chapman, tweede slachtoffer van Jack the Ripper

Moord Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 8, 2025 2:01


Op 8 september 1888 wordt rond een uur of 6 in de ochtend het ontzielde lichaam van Annie Chapman gevonden en zij zal de geschiedenis ingaan als het tweede slachtoffer van Jack the Ripper. Annie kwam oorspronkelijk uit een nette familie maar ze hield nogal van een borrel en was door de jaren heen afgegleden naar een onzeker bestaan. Ze verkocht zelfgehaakte bloemen en schnabbelde af en toe wat bij als sekswerker. In de vroege ochtend van 8 september blijtk dat ze niet genoeg geld heeft om die nacvht voor haar bed te betalen en daarom gaat ze de straat op: zeg tegen de huisbaas dat hij mijn bed vrijhoudt, ik ben zo terug, roept ze nog als ze vertrekt. Rond 5.30 's ochtends wordt ze nog gezien en een half uur later wordt ze dood gevonden. Ze is verschrikkelijk toegetakeld, de tweede vrouw in korte tijd die op deze manier is vermoord  en heel Londen is hierna in blinde paniek: een seriemoordenaar die het voorzien heeft op vrouwen.  . Jack the Ripper is nooit gepakt, maar er is een hele rij aan verdachten waaronder een Poolse kapper en een Britse prins. Mijn persoonlijke favoriet voor Jack the Ripper is... Vincent van Gogh! Daar is echt helemaal geen bewijs voor, maar de theorie is hlarisch.  Ik maakte over een podcast over de dood, en mogelijke moord, op Vincent van Gogh, luister die vooral! Meer waargebeurde, historische misdaadfeitjes? Luister naar Moord Podcast! #truecrime #geschiedenis #jacktheripper #lizluyben

Camp Gagnon
Jack the Ripper: The Most Gruesome Serial Killer In History

Camp Gagnon

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 14, 2025 48:53


Who was Jack the Ripper, and was he the first serial killer? Today, we take a closer look at the dark killings of one of England's most infamous killers. We'll talk about the death of Annie Chapman, Elizabeth Stride, Catherine Eddowes and Mary Jane Kelly, the letters of Jack the Ripper, the investigation to find Jack, prime suspects of the murders, and other interesting topics...WELCOME TO CAMP!

Murder Shelf Book Club
Ep 123: ‘Never just a Prostitute” on The Five: The Untold Lives of the Women Killed By Jack the Ripper by Hallie Rubenhold

Murder Shelf Book Club

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 11, 2025 77:05


Part I: Step into Victorian London, 1888. In the wake of Queen Victoria's Golden Jubilee, a shadow looms over Whitechapel as a series of gruesome murders unfolds. Jack the Ripper, a figure of unimaginable horror, terrifies the East End with his shocking brutality, leaving a trail of mutilated bodies that haunt us still! But who were the five tragic victims: Mary Ann "Polly" Nichols, Annie Chapman, Elizabeth Stride, Catherine Eddowes, and Mary Jane Kelly? Hailing from diverse backgrounds, their lives and stories have been largely forgotten—until now. Join Jill as she delves into the chilling murders, the ensuing terror, and the compelling narratives of the women whom history has unjustly neglected. Meet Mary Ann "Polly" Nichols and Annie Chapman in this incredible first part of the series.   ANNOUNCEMENT!   JILL WILL BE ON CREATORS ROW AT CRIMECON DENVER 2025, SEPT 5-7, 2025!  NEED TO BUY A BADGE?  USE JILL'S CODE  murdershelf  AND GET 10% OFF!  https://www.crimecon.com/CC25  SEE YOU IN DENVER MURDER BOOKIES!      BUY- THE FIVE BY HALLIE RUBENHOLD ON AMAZON!   BUY- NAMING JACK THE RIPPER BY RUSSELL EDWARDS ON AMAZON   BUY- JACK THE RIPPER AND THE CASE FOR SCOTLAND YARD'S PRIME SUSPECT BY ROBERT HOUSE Sources, photographs, recipes and drink information can be found on Jill's blog at www.murdershelfbookclub.com –June 2025. Contact:  jill@murdershelfbookclub.com, or X,  Facebook,  Instagram or YouTube.  Join Jill on PATREON for $4 and help pick our next book! Get your Murder Shelf Book Club merch!  

Weird Darkness: Stories of the Paranormal, Supernatural, Legends, Lore, Mysterious, Macabre, Unsolved
THE HAT MAN AND SHADOW PEOPLE: The Dark Difference Between These Terrifying Entities

Weird Darkness: Stories of the Paranormal, Supernatural, Legends, Lore, Mysterious, Macabre, Unsolved

Play Episode Listen Later May 4, 2025 89:08


He appears in the dark — a shadowy figure with a wide-brimmed hat — and countless people across the world share the same chilling encounter: the Hat Man is watching. Why is he so much more terrifying than other shadow people?Download The FREE PDF For This Episode's WORD SEARCH Puzzle:https://weirddarkness.com/HatManAndShadowPeopleGet the Darkness Syndicate version of #WeirdDarkness: https://weirddarkness.com/syndicateDISCLAIMER: Ads heard during the podcast that are not in my voice are placed by third party agencies outside of my control and should not imply an endorsement by Weird Darkness or myself. *** Stories and content in Weird Darkness can be disturbing for some listeners and intended for mature audiences only. Parental discretion is strongly advised.IN THIS EPISODE: Is there really such a thing as coincidence? One girl used to think so – but a strange paranormal experience has her now thinking there's no such thing as happenstance. (More Than a Coincidence) *** Is it possible that the real reason for the USA-Iraq war had nothing to do with weapons of mass destruction, and everything to do with the appropriation of other-worldly alien technology? (Saddam Hussein's Stargate) *** Weirdo family member Heather Circle brings us a terrifying story that starts, innocently enough, with her child's missing plastic drinking cup. (A Little Pink Sippy Cup) *** Rebecca Schaeffer was destined to be a star. But before she had the chance to make it in Hollywood, she was murdered by an obsessed fan. (Hollywood's Sweetheart Killed By a Stalker) *** With the internet's recent obsession with Black Eyed Kids encounters and “Shadow People” visitations, you might not notice another phenomena that's quickly becoming part of the paranormal pop-culture consciousness: The Hat Man. Reports of the strange “Hat Man”, a mysterious entity dressed in a long-brimmed hat, continue to pour in from all over the world. Who is the Hat Man? What does he want? Why have so many people around the world been visited by this strange entity? (The Hat Man And Shadow People) *** If you've ever seen the film “The Wicker Man”, you are familiar with the ending of the burning giant made of wood and the human sacrifice therein. But is it possible that this terrifying idea was not an invention of novelists and screenwriters – but was a very real practice at one time? Or even today? (The History Behind The Wicker Man) *** The life that serial killer Dennis Rader lived on the outside, hid his dark secret inside, which he was so desperate to reveal that he began dropping breadcrumbs to the media. (The Paper Trail of BTK) *** A graveyard is typically a quiet place, but Graceland Cemetery in Chicago seems to be a bit too quiet – which might have something to do with its resident ghosts. (The Deathly Silence of Graceland Cemetery) *** In 1888, London was terror-struck by the grotesque murders of Jack the Ripper, who was shortly about to claim his next-victim: 47-year-old prostitute Annie Chapman. Her dissection at the hands of the madman was nothing short of gruesome. (The Dissection of Annie Chapman) *** Annie Chapman likely got a good look at her killer. At the time, scientists thought they could user her corpse's eyeballs to identify the attacker. Is something like that possible? Could the last visual image of someone's life remain burned into the eye even after death? (The Last Thing a Corpse Sees)CHAPTERS & TIME STAMPS (All Times Approximate and Only Accurate For the Commercial Version)…00:00:00.000 = Lead In00:00:48.416 = Show Open00:04:18.611 = Hat Man And Shadow People00:16:57.721 = More Than a Coincidence00:21:37.346 = A Little Pink Sippy Cup00:25:34.161 = Saddam Hussein's Stargate00:33:00.675 = Hollywood's Sweetheart Killed by a Stalker00:47:28.250 = Dissection of Annie Chapman00:58:31.078 = The Last Thing a Corpse Sees01:04:39.727 = History Behind the Wicker Man01:09:28.044 = The Paper Trail of BTK01:15:55.830 = Deathly Silence of Graceland Cemetery01:26:35.520 = Show CloseSOURCES AND RESOURCES FROM THE EPISODE…“The Hat Man And Shadow People” by Greg Newkirk (http://bit.ly/36DLMwg) and Dana Matthews (http://bit.ly/33oEfiJ) for Week In Weird.“More Than a Coincidence” is by Cherubim and was posted at YourGhostStories: http://bit.ly/2JXuCQC“Saddam Hussein's Stargate” by Michael Moran for The Daily Star: http://bit.ly/2pNfVst“A Little Pink Sippy Cup” by Weirdo family member Heather Circle“Hollywood's Sweetheart Killed By a Stalker” by Natalie DeGroot from All That's Interesting: http://bit.ly/2NoBbh9“Dark Annie” from Awesome Stories: http://bit.ly/33H5hlC“The Dissection of Annie Chapman” by Hannah McKennet for All That's Interesting: http://bit.ly/2p98hZb“The Last Thing a Corpse Sees” by Marissa Fessenden for the Smithsonian: (link no longer available)“The History Behind The Wicker Man” from Ancient Origins: http://bit.ly/2Kr38TR“The Paper Trail of BTK” by Rachel Chang for Biography: http://bit.ly/32zqpZL“The Deathly Silence of Graceland Cemetery” by Ursula Bielski for Chicago Hauntings: (link no longer available)=====(Over time links seen above may become invalid, disappear, or have different content. I always make sure to give authors credit for the material I use whenever possible. If I somehow overlooked doing so for a story, or if a credit is incorrect, please let me know and I will rectify it in these show notes immediately. Some links included above may benefit me financially through qualifying purchases.)= = = = ="I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness." — John 12:46= = = = =WeirdDarkness® is a registered trademark. Copyright ©2025, Weird Darkness.=====Originally aired: August 2019EPISODE PAGE at WeirdDarkness.com (includes list of sources):https://weirddarkness.com/HatManAndShadowPeople

La ContraHistoria
El misterio de Jack el destripador

La ContraHistoria

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 10, 2025 77:27


En el otoño de 1888, el distrito de Whitechapel en el este Londres se convirtió en el escenario de uno de los grandes misterios de la historia del crimen: los asesinatos atribuidos a Jack el Destripador. Este asesino en serie, cuya identidad nunca llegó a confirmarse, trajo de cabeza durante meses a la policía londinense y su enigmática estampa se apoderó de la prensa y la cultura popular. La serie de crímenes comenzó en agosto de 1888 con el asesinato de Mary Ann Nichols. El cadáver de Nichols fue encontrado en la madrugada del 31 de agosto con un profundo corte en la garganta y múltiples heridas en el abdomen. Sólo una semana después, el 8 de septiembre, apareció el cuerpo de Annie Chapman en un patio de Hanbury Street con heridas similares. La brutalidad de estos dos crímenes y el hecho de que estuviesen separados por sólo unos días desataron el pánico en toda la ciudad. Pero no había acabado ahí. El 30 de septiembre, en lo que se conoce como el "doble evento", fueron asesinadas Elizabeth Stride y Catherine Eddowes. Stride fue encontrada en Berner Street, y Eddowes en Mitre Square, en el centro de la City de Londres. La primera sufrió sólo un corte en la garganta, mientras que la segunda fue parcialmente descuartizada. La policía sospechó que alguien apareció en la escena del crimen en Berner Street, lo que obligó al asesino a salir huyendo y buscar una nueva víctima cambiando de vecindario para que no siguiesen sus pasos. La precisión de los cortes hizo barajar a los inspectores que se trataba de alguien con conocimientos anatómicos, quizá un cirujano o un carnicero. Pero aún faltaba un crimen, acaso el peor de todos. El 9 de noviembre los restos de Mary Jane Kelly fueron encontrados en una pensión de Spitalfields. A diferencia de los anteriores, el asesinato se produjo en una estancia cerrada. Eso dio al asesino mucho más tiempo para emplearse con su víctima. Tendido sobre un camastro, el cuerpo de Kelly estaba completamente mutilado y su rostro era completamente irreconocible. Pero lo que hizo de este criminal algo realmente especial no sólo fue la brutalidad de los crímenes tras los que no se escondían los móviles habituales como el robo o la violación, sino que presuntamente dio la cara a través de una serie de cartas dirigidas a los periódicos y la policía. Fue él quien se bautizo a sí mismo como Jack el Destripador en la más célebre de estas cartas. Se la conoce por su encabezado “querido jefe” y fue recibida por la Agencia Central de Noticias el 27 de septiembre. La siguiente sería aún más macabra ya que decía estar escrita desde el mismísimo infierno. No se sabe a ciencia cierta si estas cartas eran auténticas, pero contribuyeron a la leyenda del asesino. La policía intentó sin éxito atrapar al responsable de estos crímenes durante meses, pero no lo consiguió. Se propusieron varias teorías sobre su identidad. Se habló de médicos y hasta de miembros de la realeza, pero ninguna ha sido probada de forma concluyente. El caso, por lo tanto, sigue abierto. Los crímenes de Whitechapel tuvieron un gran impacto en la sociedad victoriana. Destaparon las condiciones de pobreza y privación que se vivían en los barrios bajos de Londres. Eso trajo en los años siguientes reformas sociales y urbanísticas. Su influencia en la prensa y la literatura fue aún mayor. Con Jack el Destripador nació un género periodístico e inspiró a novelistas como Arthur Conan Doyle, que alumbró a Sherlock Holmes en la misma época en la que se produjeron estos crímenes. En El ContraSello: 0:00 Introducción 3:48 El misterio de Jack el destripador 1:09:59 Catolicismo, protestantismo y prosperidad 1:15:00 La basílica del Pilar Bibliografía: - "Jack el Destripador" de Rex Buckley - https://amzn.to/42950sJ - "A la caza de Jack el Destripador" de Kerri Maniscalco - https://amzn.to/4h8uuL9 - "From Hell" de Alan Moore - https://amzn.to/4hcddkt - "El lado oscuro de la cultura victoriana" de Antonio Ballesteros - https://amzn.to/4fXv5OF · Canal de Telegram: https://t.me/lacontracronica · “Contra la Revolución Francesa”… https://amzn.to/4aF0LpZ · “Hispanos. Breve historia de los pueblos de habla hispana”… https://amzn.to/428js1G · “La ContraHistoria de España. Auge, caída y vuelta a empezar de un país en 28 episodios”… https://amzn.to/3kXcZ6i · “Lutero, Calvino y Trento, la Reforma que no fue”… https://amzn.to/3shKOlK · “La ContraHistoria del comunismo”… https://amzn.to/39QP2KE Apoya La Contra en: · Patreon... https://www.patreon.com/diazvillanueva · iVoox... https://www.ivoox.com/podcast-contracronica_sq_f1267769_1.html · Paypal... https://www.paypal.me/diazvillanueva Sígueme en: · Web... https://diazvillanueva.com · Twitter... https://twitter.com/diazvillanueva · Facebook... https://www.facebook.com/fernandodiazvillanueva1/ · Instagram... https://www.instagram.com/diazvillanueva · Linkedin… https://www.linkedin.com/in/fernando-d%C3%ADaz-villanueva-7303865/ · Flickr... https://www.flickr.com/photos/147276463@N05/?/ · Pinterest... https://www.pinterest.com/fernandodiazvillanueva Encuentra mis libros en: · Amazon... https://www.amazon.es/Fernando-Diaz-Villanueva/e/B00J2ASBXM #FernandoDiazVillanueva #jacktheripper Escucha el episodio completo en la app de iVoox, o descubre todo el catálogo de iVoox Originals

The Conspiracy Podcast
Jack the Ripper Part One - EP 91

The Conspiracy Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 12, 2024 58:17


The haunting tale of Jack the Ripper, join the boys as they take you back to the dark, mist-shrouded streets of Whitechapel, England, in the late 1800s. In this first installment, they set the stage for one of the most chilling and enduring mysteries in history, exploring the harsh realities of life in East London, where poverty, crime, and desperation ruled the streets. Amid the flickering glow of gas lamps and the ever-present fog, Whitechapel was a place where people struggled to survive, living in overcrowded slums and doss-houses, with danger lurking around every corner. The story unfolds against this bleak backdrop, where the Ripper's reign of terror began. The boys delve deep into the details of the five confirmed murders that sent shockwaves through the community: Mary Ann Nichols, Annie Chapman, Elizabeth Stride, Catherine Eddowes, and Mary Jane Kelly. Each woman's life and brutal death are recounted with vivid detail, highlighting the terror that gripped the streets of Whitechapel. The victims, all vulnerable women, faced unimaginable horror as the Ripper struck in the dead of night, vanishing into the shadows without leaving a trace. As the gruesome murders unfolded, fear spread like wildfire, and the press sensationalized the killings, giving rise to the infamous name that would haunt history. The boys paint a vivid picture of the investigations that ensued, as well as the rising hysteria among Whitechapel's residents. Policemen patrolled the cobblestone streets, vigilantes took up arms, and citizens whispered about the monster that seemed to be watching them from the dark. Through historical records, they bring to life the gripping sense of dread and the public's desperate need for answers. The mystery of the Ripper's identity became an obsession, with countless theories swirling about who this sadistic killer could be. In this first part, you'll explore how Jack the Ripper's legacy of fear and intrigue became etched into history. The boys' storytelling invites you into a world of unsolved crime, where the figure of the Ripper still looms large over London's past, a ghostly reminder of the brutality and horror that once held Whitechapel in a deathly grip. Patreon -- https://www.patreon.com/theconspiracypodcast Our Website - www.theconspiracypodcast.com Our Email - info@theconspiracypodcast.com

The Three Ravens Podcast
Something Wicked 12: Jack The Ripper

The Three Ravens Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 31, 2024 120:37


For the Three Ravens 2024 Halloween Special we've pulled out all the stops and are talking about the most infamous serial killer in history, Jack The Ripper!Part of the "Something Wicked" series about true crimes with folkloric twists, we start by chatting through what London was like in 1888, including the boom in crime fiction that had culminated in the creation of Sherlock Holmes, the city's 58 daily newspapers, and the horrendous wealth divide between the Victorian rich and poor.Then it's onto the Whitechapel Murders themselves, including some extremely distressing details and fringe cases, such as the grisly deaths of Martha Tabram and Emma Smith which predated the so-called 'Canonical Five' Ripper victims.We also detail the lives of the women who were slain, as well as the awful ways in which they died, discussing what Mary Ann Nichols, Annie Chapman, Elizabeth Stride, Catherine Eddowes and Mary Jane Kelly had in common, the escalating nature of their killer's crimes, and how exactly the police responded to the challenges the case presented.From the 'Dear Boss' and 'From Hell' letters to the methods Scotland Yard and the Metropolitan Police used to try and catch the killer, the case's links to antisemitism and the Freemasons, to details of the lead suspects and subsequent theories of the crimes which have developed across the 20th and 21st centuries, it's a wild and horrifying ride.At almost exactly two hours long, we've done our best in this episode to do the topic justice, and no doubt it is a dark and deeply disturbing journey. But, as Haunting Season 2024 winds to a close, it's hard to imagine a much murkier true crime to chronicle as we head into the dark of winter...The Three Ravens is an English Myth and Folklore podcast hosted by award-winning writers Martin Vaux and Eleanor Conlon.Released on Mondays, each weekly episode focuses on one of England's 39 historic counties, exploring the history, folklore and traditions of the area, from ghosts and mermaids to mythical monsters, half-forgotten heroes, bloody legends, and much, much more. Then, and most importantly, the pair take turns to tell a new version of an ancient story from that county - all before discussing what that tale might mean, where it might have come from, and the truths it reveals about England's hidden past...Bonus Episodes are released on Thursdays (Magic and Medicines about folk remedies and arcane spells, Three Ravens Bestiary about cryptids and mythical creatures, Dying Arts about endangered heritage crafts, and Something Wicked about folkloric true crime from across history) plus Local Legends episodes on Saturdays - interviews with acclaimed authors, folklorists, podcasters and historians with unique perspectives on that week's county.With a range of exclusive content on Patreon, too, including audio ghost tours, the Three Ravens Newsletter, and monthly Three Ravens Film Club episodes about folk horror films from across the decades, why not join us around the campfire and listen in?Learn more at www.threeravenspodcast.com, join our Patreon at www.patreon.com/threeravenspodcast, and find links to our social media channels here: https://linktr.ee/threeravenspodcast Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Conner & Smith Show
Annie Chapman

The Conner & Smith Show

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 8, 2024 25:16


Join Matt and myself for a new series of episodes called “Tales of Mystery”, where we will be exploring all sorts of mysteries throughout history. Today's episode concerns Annie Chapman, who on this date of September 8th in 1888, became the second victim of Jack the Ripper in Whitechapel. This podcast series is in support of Stillpointe Theatre and their World Premiere of our show, “Whitechapel”, running at The Club Car from January 9th through February 1st. For more information, please visit www.stillpointetheatre.com 
Our musical, “Monsters of the Villa Diodati” as produced and performed by Emergent Theatre NYC is available to download for a small fee until September 15th! For more information, please visit: https://www.emergenttheatrenyc.org/ 
Support The Conner & Smith Show on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/ConnerandSmith

Legacy Grandparenting
We Are Family: A Conversation with Steve and Annie Chapman

Legacy Grandparenting

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 13, 2024 58:53


In this episode of Legacy Grandparenting, John Coulombe interviews his good friends Steve and Annie Chapman who have for some 50 years been performing and recording together, conducting parenting seminars and developing other resources focused on faith and family issues. You'll learn how they got started with their ministry, what they have learned along the way, and what they are doing now to encourage their children and grandchildren to follow Christ faithfully. You will also hear some of their music as they tell the stories behind the songs. For more information about Steve and Annie Chapman, visit steveandanniechapman.com.Songs included in this episode:"Finish Well" words and music by Steve Chapman/Times & Seasons Music/BMI 2008"Love Was Spoken" words and music by Steve Chapman/Times & Seasons Music/BMI 1998"We Are Family" words and music by Steve Chapman/Times & Seasons Music/BMI 2018

Zbrodnie Zapomniane
WHITECHAPEL - PRZEMILCZANA HISTORIA. CZĘŚĆ DRUGA: ANNIE CHAPMAN

Zbrodnie Zapomniane

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 23, 2024 91:27


MIEJSCE AKCJI - LONDYN, ANGLIA Materiał posiada charakter dokumentalno-historyczny. Wzbogacony o wątki sfabularyzowane, ma na celu przybliżyć obyczaje oraz prawo panujące w XIX wiecznej Anglii. Postaw mi kawę: https://buycoffee.to/zbrodniezapomniane Wspieranie kanału: https://patronite.pl/ZbrodnieZapomniane https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZsXqcUbVi03jDKVS-a2Dlg/join Źródła: https://www.jack-the-ripper.org/ https://www.geni.com/people/Annie-Chapman/6000000020342737018 https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/22110/annie_eliza_chapman https://www.jack-the-ripper-tour.com/locations/hanbury-street/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Chapman "Pięć. Nieopowiedziane historie kobiet zamordowanych przez Kubę Rozpruwacza", Hallie Rubenhold The Western Times, 10.09.1888 The Western Times, 11.09.1888 The Western Times, 14.09.1888 The Western Times, 15.09.1888 The Western Times, 17.09.1888 Wykorzystany utwór pochodzi z darmowej bazy utworów muzycznych pixabay.com i został udostępniony do darmowego wykorzystania w ramach licencji Pixabay (https://pixabay.com/pl/music/otoczenia-lost-soul-30sec-177569/) Społeczność: Grupa na fb: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1120954551591543 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zbrodniezapomniane/ kontakt: ✉️ e-mail: zbrodniezapomniane@gmail.com

Family Talk on Oneplace.com
The Delicate Mother-In-Law Relationship - II

Family Talk on Oneplace.com

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 21, 2024 25:55


Married or not, we have all heard horror stories from the perspective of a mother or daughter-in-law. On today's classic edition of Family Talk, Dr. James Dobson concludes his critical discussion with author Annie Chapman about her book, The Mother-In-Law Dance. Annie shares that there is nothing quite so unattractive as a jealous mother or an insecure wife. To help guard against these emotions, Colossians 3:12-13 says, Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you. Don't miss this crucial episode about the healthy boundaries that are necessary between a mother and her son's wife. To support this ministry financially, visit: https://www.oneplace.com/donate/707/29

Family Talk on Oneplace.com
The Delicate Mother-In-Law Relationship - I

Family Talk on Oneplace.com

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 20, 2024 25:55


Perhaps one of the more difficult relationships to manage in life is between a mother-in-law and her daughter-in-law. On today's classic edition of Family Talk, Dr. James Dobson takes on this delicate subject with musician and author, Annie Chapman, as they discuss her book entitled, The Mother-In-Law Dance: Can Two Women Love the Same Man and Still Get Along? Matthew 11:29-30 says, Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light. Annie's invaluable advice models this character of Jesus. Being gentle and humble in spirit may be the best way for mothers and their daughters-in-law to maintain a healthy family dynamic. To support this ministry financially, visit: https://www.oneplace.com/donate/707/29

Weird Darkness: Stories of the Paranormal, Supernatural, Legends, Lore, Mysterious, Macabre, Unsolved
“THE HAT MAN AND SHADOW PEOPLE” and More Strange But True Stories! #WeirdDarkness #Darkives

Weird Darkness: Stories of the Paranormal, Supernatural, Legends, Lore, Mysterious, Macabre, Unsolved

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 17, 2024 89:57


IN THIS EPISODE: Is there really such a thing as coincidence? One girl used to think so – but a strange paranormal experience has her now thinking there's no such thing as happenstance. (More Than a Coincidence) *** Is it possible that the real reason for the USA-Iraq war had nothing to do with weapons of mass destruction, and everything to do with the appropriation of other-worldly alien technology? (Saddam Hussein's Stargate) *** Weirdo family member Heather Circle brings us a terrifying story that starts, innocently enough, with her child's missing plastic drinking cup. (A Little Pink Sippy Cup) *** Rebecca Schaeffer was destined to be a star. But before she had the chance to make it in Hollywood, she was murdered by an obsessed fan. (Hollywood's Sweetheart Killed By a Stalker) *** With the internet's recent obsession with Black Eyed Kids encounters and “Shadow People” visitations, you might not notice another phenomena that's quickly becoming part of the paranormal pop-culture consciousness: The Hat Man. Reports of the strange “Hat Man”, a mysterious entity dressed in a long-brimmed hat, continue to pour in from all over the world. Who is the Hat Man? What does he want? Why have so many people around the world been visited by this strange entity? (The Hat Man And Shadow People) *** If you've ever seen the film “The Wicker Man”, you are familiar with the ending of the burning giant made of wood and the human sacrifice therein. But is it possible that this terrifying idea was not an invention of novelists and screenwriters – but was a very real practice at one time? Or even today? (The History Behind The Wicker Man) *** The life that serial killer Dennis Rader lived on the outside, hid his dark secret inside, which he was so desperate to reveal that he began dropping breadcrumbs to the media. (The Paper Trail of BTK) *** A graveyard is typically a quiet place, but Graceland Cemetery in Chicago seems to be a bit too quiet – which might have something to do with its resident ghosts. (The Deathly Silence of Graceland Cemetery) *** In 1888, London was terror-struck by the grotesque murders of Jack the Ripper, who was shortly about to claim his next-victim: 47-year-old prostitute Annie Chapman. Her dissection at the hands of the madman was nothing short of gruesome. (The Dissection of Annie Chapman) *** Annie Chapman likely got a good look at her killer. At the time, scientists thought they could user her corpse's eyeballs to identify the attacker. Is something like that possible? Could the last visual image of someone's life remain burned into the eye even after death? (The Last Thing a Corpse Sees)SOURCES AND REFERENCES FROM THE EPISODE…“The Hat Man And Shadow People” by Greg Newkirk (http://bit.ly/36DLMwg) and Dana Matthews (http://bit.ly/33oEfiJ) for Week In Weird.“More Than a Coincidence” is by Cherubim and was posted at YourGhostStories: http://bit.ly/2JXuCQC“Saddam Hussein's Stargate” by Michael Moran for The Daily Star: http://bit.ly/2pNfVst“A Little Pink Sippy Cup” by Weirdo family member Heather Circle“Hollywood's Sweetheart Killed By a Stalker” by Natalie DeGroot from All That's Interesting: http://bit.ly/2NoBbh9“Dark Annie” from Awesome Stories: http://bit.ly/33H5hlC“The Dissection of Annie Chapman” by Hannah McKennet for All That's Interesting: http://bit.ly/2p98hZb“The Last Thing a Corpse Sees” by Marissa Fessenden for the Smithsonian: (link no longer available)“The History Behind The Wicker Man” from Ancient Origins: http://bit.ly/2Kr38TR“The Paper Trail of BTK” by Rachel Chang for Biography: http://bit.ly/32zqpZL“The Deathly Silence of Graceland Cemetery” by Ursula Bielski for Chicago Hauntings: http://bit.ly/33G3CgqWeird Darkness theme by Alibi Music Library. = = = = =(Over time links seen above may become invalid, disappear, or have different content. I always make sure to give authors credit for the material I use whenever possible. If I somehow overlooked doing so for a story, or if a credit is incorrect, please let me know and I will rectify it in these show notes immediately. Some links included above may benefit me financially through qualifying purchases.)= = = = ="I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness." — John 12:46= = = = =WeirdDarkness® is a registered trademark. Copyright ©2024, Weird Darkness.= = = = =Originally aired: August, 2019CUSTOM LANDING PAGE: https://weirddarkness.com/hat-man-and-shadow-people

Murder Sheet
Jack the Ripper with Jim McKenna: A Suspect

Murder Sheet

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 29, 2023 45:36


The Jack the Ripper case has puzzled police and Ripperologists across the centuries. No one has ever been prosecuted for killing Mary Ann Nichols, Annie Chapman, Elizabeth Stride, Catherine Eddowes, and Mary Jane Kelly. But many Ripperologists conjure their own suspects.In this episode of The Murder Sheet, we will conclude our interview with Ripperologist Jim McKenna. He'll reveal his main suspect for the brutal serial homicides.The Murder Sheet participates in the Amazon Associate program and earns money from qualifying purchases.Purchase JimMcKenna's book Penny Black here: https://www.amazon.com/Penny-Black-Jim-McKenna/dp/B0C6P2S7SW/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1ZQV63NUE1PYH&keywords=penny+black+jim+mckenna&qid=1701109819&sprefix=penny+black+jim%252Caps%252C128&sr=8-1&_encoding=UTF8&tag=murdersheet-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=aa1274a8908fb343100677c3b4609216&camp=1789&creative=9325Purchase The Complete Jack the Ripper by Donald Rumbelow here: https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Jack-Ripper-Donald-Rumbelow/dp/0753541505?&_encoding=UTF8&tag=murdersheet-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=427a76dfff92c58789e24b5c897701c1&camp=1789&creative=9325Purchase People of the Abyss by Jack London here: https://www.amazon.com/People-Abyss-original-illustrations/dp/B08TRLB6HV/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1DUNJWPCH42IN&keywords=Jack+london+--+people+of+the+abyss&qid=1701106050&s=books&sprefix=jack+london+--+people+of+the+abyss%252Cstripbooks%252C94&sr=1-1&_encoding=UTF8&tag=murdersheet-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=e9dcb24c9182f8141f10c19c0dbf60f9&camp=1789&creative=9325Here's a link to Ripperologist magazine: http://www.ripperologist.co.uk/Purchase The Cases That Haunt Us by John Douglas here: https://www.amazon.com/Cases-That-Haunt-Us/dp/0671017063/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1GM8CSR07TKI6&keywords=john+douglas+--+cases+that+haunted&qid=1701106217&sprefix=john+douglas+--+cases+that+haunted%252Caps%252C93&sr=8-1&_encoding=UTF8&tag=murdersheet-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=62888367a265fda95336e4470e021278&camp=1789&creative=9325Purchase The Five: The Untold Lives of the Women Killed by Jack the Ripper by Hallie Rubenhold here: https://www.amazon.com/Five-Untold-Lives-Killed-Ripper/dp/1328663817?&_encoding=UTF8&tag=murdersheet-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=9f88591cd1e9dda022d391b302307890&camp=1789&creative=9325Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC .See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Murder Sheet
Jack the Ripper with Jim McKenna: The Canonical Murders

Murder Sheet

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 28, 2023 50:21


Jack the Ripper is a notorious historical serial killer. But he's also a figure surrounded by myth. In this episode of The Murder Sheet, we will interview Ripperologist Jim McKenna. He'll get into the social and historical context of the killings, the canonical murders, and the very identities of the so-called "Canonical Five": Mary Ann Nichols, Annie Chapman, Elizabeth Stride, Catherine Eddowes, and Mary Jane Kelly.The Murder Sheet participates in the Amazon Associate program and earns money from qualifying purchases.Purchase JimMcKenna's book Penny Black here: https://www.amazon.com/Penny-Black-Jim-McKenna/dp/B0C6P2S7SW/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1ZQV63NUE1PYH&keywords=penny+black+jim+mckenna&qid=1701109819&sprefix=penny+black+jim%252Caps%252C128&sr=8-1&_encoding=UTF8&tag=murdersheet-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=aa1274a8908fb343100677c3b4609216&camp=1789&creative=9325Purchase The Complete Jack the Ripper by Donald Rumbelow here: https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Jack-Ripper-Donald-Rumbelow/dp/0753541505?&_encoding=UTF8&tag=murdersheet-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=427a76dfff92c58789e24b5c897701c1&camp=1789&creative=9325Purchase People of the Abyss by Jack London here: https://www.amazon.com/People-Abyss-original-illustrations/dp/B08TRLB6HV/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1DUNJWPCH42IN&keywords=Jack+london+--+people+of+the+abyss&qid=1701106050&s=books&sprefix=jack+london+--+people+of+the+abyss%252Cstripbooks%252C94&sr=1-1&_encoding=UTF8&tag=murdersheet-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=e9dcb24c9182f8141f10c19c0dbf60f9&camp=1789&creative=9325Here's a link to Ripperologist magazine: http://www.ripperologist.co.uk/Purchase The Cases That Haunt Us by John Douglas here: https://www.amazon.com/Cases-That-Haunt-Us/dp/0671017063/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1GM8CSR07TKI6&keywords=john+douglas+--+cases+that+haunted&qid=1701106217&sprefix=john+douglas+--+cases+that+haunted%252Caps%252C93&sr=8-1&_encoding=UTF8&tag=murdersheet-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=62888367a265fda95336e4470e021278&camp=1789&creative=9325Purchase The Five: The Untold Lives of the Women Killed by Jack the Ripper by Hallie Rubenhold here: https://www.amazon.com/Five-Untold-Lives-Killed-Ripper/dp/1328663817?&_encoding=UTF8&tag=murdersheet-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=9f88591cd1e9dda022d391b302307890&camp=1789&creative=9325Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC .See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

How Haunted? Podcast | Horrible Histories, Real Life Ghost Stories, and Paranormal Investigations from Some of the Most Haunt

The scariest time of the year is here, when darkness reigns and the veil between worlds is at its thinnest. Tonight, as the moon casts an eerie glow on the world below, and the wind whispers ancient secrets, we venture into a realm where the extraordinary becomes ordinary, and the mundane fades away. But beware, dear listener, as the subject of this year's Halloween special is most definitely not the faint of heart. For tonight we embark on a spine-chilling journey through the haunting streets of Whitechapel, as we unravel the mysteries surrounding one of the most notorious figures in history: Jack the Ripper. In our quest for truth and understanding, we will walk in the footsteps of Jack the Ripper himself, peering into the shadowy corners where his victims met their untimely demise. And we'll get to know Mary Ann Nichols, Annie Chapman, Elizabeth Stride, Catherine Eddowes, and Mary Jane Kelly—the five canonical victims of Jack the Ripper, each murdered in the most horrific manner imaginable. And we'll seek out the ghosts of Whitechapel. Reports of ghostly apparitions, eerie footsteps, and mysterious sounds have plagued this area of England's capital for the last 135 years. Are these spectral echoes the tormented souls of those who met their end at the hands of the Ripper? Tonight, on the scariest night of the year turn the lights down low, and join me as I guide you through the East End of London as we ask just how haunted is Jack the Ripper's Whitechapel? Support How Haunted? by subscribing and leaving a review. You can become a Patreon for as little as £1 a month. You can choose from three tiers and get yourself early access to episodes, and exclusive monthly episodes where Rob will conduct ghost hunts and you'll hear the audio from the night. You can even get yourself some exclusive How Haunted? merch, and join me on a paranormal investigation via livestream. To sign up, and take advantage of a FREE seven day trial, visit https://patreon.com/HowHauntedPod Perhaps you'd rather buy me a coffee to make a one off donation to support the pod, you can do that at https://www.buymeacoffee.com/HowHauntedPod Find out more about the pod at https://www.how-haunted.com and you can email Rob at Rob@how-haunted.com   Music in this episode includes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziC1woHrZDE Rest for the Wicked - DARK AMBIENT MUSIC _ Whitechapel - Jack the Ripper's infamous Hunting Ground   Midnight Masquerade by Jonathan Segev Youtube - https://youtu.be/hia0J2BTn2w   " HORROR PIANO MUSIC " composed and produced by "Vivek Abhishek"   Music link :https://youtu.be/xbjuAGgk5lU || SUBSCRIBE us on YOUTUBE: https://youtu.be/DQQmmCl8crQ || Follow on Facebook: https://bit.ly/33RWRtP || Follow on Instagram: https://bit.ly/2ImU2JV  

TALK MURDER TO ME
Let Er' Rip - Tearing Open The Annie Chapman Murder (Jack The Slipper?)

TALK MURDER TO ME

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 28, 2023 55:21


Delve deep into the chilling tale of annie chapman's tragic end, as we unravel the mysteries and controversies surrounding her infamous murderer, jack the ripper. Journey through fog-laden streets, witness the horror, and explore the theories that have captivated the world for over a century. Subscribe on your favorite podcasting apps: https://talkmurder.com/subscribeSupport us on patreon: https://patreon.com/talkmurderSee our technology: https://talkmurder.com/gearContent warning: the true crime stories discussed on this podcast can involve graphic and disturbing subject matter. Listener discretion is strongly advised.Fair use disclaimer: some materials used in this work are included under the fair use doctrine for educational purposes. Any copyrighted materials are owned by their respective copyright holders. Questions regarding use of copyrighted materials may be directed to legal [@] Talkocast.com

Weird Darkness: Stories of the Paranormal, Supernatural, Legends, Lore, Mysterious, Macabre, Unsolved
“THE HAT MAN AND SHADOW PEOPLE” and More Strange and Terrifying True Stories! #WeirdDarkness

Weird Darkness: Stories of the Paranormal, Supernatural, Legends, Lore, Mysterious, Macabre, Unsolved

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 5, 2023 90:49


Check out the other podcasts I host at https://weirddarkness.com/links. PLEASE SHARE THIS EPISODE in your social media so others who loves strange and macabre stories can listen too!IN THIS EPISODE: Is there really such a thing as coincidence? One girl used to think so – but a strange paranormal experience has her now thinking there's no such thing as happenstance. (More Than a Coincidence) *** Is it possible that the real reason for the USA-Iraq war had nothing to do with weapons of mass destruction, and everything to do with the appropriation of other-worldly alien technology? (Saddam Hussein's Stargate) *** Weirdo family member Heather Circle brings us a terrifying story that starts, innocently enough, with her child's missing plastic drinking cup. (A Little Pink Sippy Cup) *** Rebecca Schaeffer was destined to be a star. But before she had the chance to make it in Hollywood, she was murdered by an obsessed fan. (Hollywood's Sweetheart Killed By a Stalker) *** With the internet's recent obsession with Black Eyed Kids encounters and “Shadow People” visitations, you might not notice another phenomena that's quickly becoming part of the paranormal pop-culture consciousness: The Hat Man. Reports of the strange “Hat Man”, a mysterious entity dressed in a long-brimmed hat, continue to pour in from all over the world. Who is the Hat Man? What does he want? Why have so many people around the world been visited by this strange entity? (The Hat Man And Shadow People) *** If you've ever seen the film “The Wicker Man”, you are familiar with the ending of the burning giant made of wood and the human sacrifice therein. But is it possible that this terrifying idea was not an invention of novelists and screenwriters – but was a very real practice at one time? Or even today? (The History Behind The Wicker Man) *** The life that serial killer Dennis Rader lived on the outside, hid his dark secret inside, which he was so desperate to reveal that he began dropping breadcrumbs to the media. (The Paper Trail of BTK) *** A graveyard is typically a quiet place, but Graceland Cemetery in Chicago seems to be a bit too quiet – which might have something to do with its resident ghosts. (The Deathly Silence of Graceland Cemetery) *** In 1888, London was terror-struck by the grotesque murders of Jack the Ripper, who was shortly about to claim his next-victim: 47-year-old prostitute Annie Chapman. Her dissection at the hands of the madman was nothing short of gruesome. (The Dissection of Annie Chapman) *** Annie Chapman likely got a good look at her killer. At the time, scientists thought they could user her corpse's eyeballs to identify the attacker. Is something like that possible? Could the last visual image of someone's life remain burned into the eye even after death? (The Last Thing a Corpse Sees)SOURCES AND REFERENCES FROM THE EPISODE…“The Hat Man And Shadow People” by Greg Newkirk (http://bit.ly/36DLMwg) and Dana Matthews (http://bit.ly/33oEfiJ) for Week In Weird.“More Than a Coincidence” is by Cherubim and was posted at YourGhostStories: http://bit.ly/2JXuCQC “Saddam Hussein's Stargate” by Michael Moran for The Daily Star: http://bit.ly/2pNfVst “A Little Pink Sippy Cup” by Weirdo family member Heather Circle“Hollywood's Sweetheart Killed By a Stalker” by Natalie DeGroot from All That's Interesting: http://bit.ly/2NoBbh9 “Dark Annie” from Awesome Stories: http://bit.ly/33H5hlC “The Dissection of Annie Chapman” by Hannah McKennet for All That's Interesting: http://bit.ly/2p98hZb “The Last Thing a Corpse Sees” by Marissa Fessenden for the Smithsonian: (link no longer available) “The History Behind The Wicker Man” from Ancient Origins: http://bit.ly/2Kr38TR “The Paper Trail of BTK” by Rachel Chang for Biography: http://bit.ly/32zqpZL “The Deathly Silence of Graceland Cemetery” by Ursula Bielski for Chicago Hauntings: http://bit.ly/33G3Cgq Visit our Sponsors & Friends: https://weirddarkness.com/sponsors Join the Weird Darkness Syndicate: https://weirddarkness.com//syndicate Advertise in the Weird Darkness podcast or syndicated radio show: https://weirddarkness.com/advertise= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =Weird Darkness theme by Alibi Music Library. Background music provided by Alibi Music Library, EpidemicSound and/or StoryBlocks with paid license. Music from Shadows Symphony (https://tinyurl.com/yyrv987t), Midnight Syndicate (http://amzn.to/2BYCoXZ) Kevin MacLeod (https://tinyurl.com/y2v7fgbu), Tony Longworth (https://tinyurl.com/y2nhnbt7), and Nicolas Gasparini (https://tinyurl.com/lnqpfs8) is used with permission of the artists.= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =OTHER PODCASTS I HOST…Paranormality Magazine: (COMING SOON!) https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/paranormalitymagMicro Terrors: Scary Stories for Kids: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/microterrorsRetro Radio – Old Time Radio In The Dark: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/retroradioChurch of the Undead: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/churchoftheundead= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =(Over time links seen above may become invalid, disappear, or have different content. 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Dying to be Found
Jack the Ripper

Dying to be Found

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 13, 2023 33:10


Between August and November in 1888, an ominous figure swept the streets of East London, preying upon women who were down on their luck. It was during this time that an unidentified man - or woman - stalked the streets in the early morning hours, looking for their next unsuspecting victim. Mary Nichols, Annie Chapman, Elizabeth Stride, Catherine Eddies, and Mary Kelly were all positively identified as the five victims of Jack the Ripper, but some say there were more. As quickly as they occurred, the murders ended abruptly, but not before Jack left a bloody trail of carnage in his path. Through DNA technology, investigators now believe they know the identity of Jack the Ripper, but simply cannot say for sure. Unless there are more viable clues, it is likely this case will never be solved.Dying to be Found and Dying to be Found: The DASH are now part of Sound Slice Podcast Productions. If you are interested in becoming part of this network, email soundslicepod@gmail.com or check out their website at soundslicepod.com.Listen to new episodes every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts! Find us on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and Pinterest @dying2bfound or visit our website at www.dyingtobefound.com. Find us all in one spot at https://linktr.ee/dying2bfound.If you like what you hear, please share and give a 5-star review! Consider supporting us by buying us a coffee at https://www.buymeacoffee.com/dyingtobefound.Intro & Extro Music: Undersea World by DragonovTeachable Moments Music: Untold Story by Ballian De MoulleREFERENCESDoes a new genetic analysis finally reveal the identity of Jack the Ripper?Jack the RipperJack the Ripper: English MurdererJack the Ripper History

Rock N Roll Bedtime Stories
Episode 147 – Taylor Swift and Bobbie Gentry vs fame

Rock N Roll Bedtime Stories

Play Episode Listen Later May 24, 2023 47:42


The boys dig into the backstory of an old Taylor Swift song and uncover the histories of some major women in music who thought about leaving it all behind - and one who actually did.  This episode brought to you in part by Louder Than Life Music Festival. Louder Than Life America's Biggest Rock Festival Louisville, KY September 21-24, 2023 Highland Festival Grounds At Kentucky Exposition Center Foo Fighters, Green Day, Tool, Avenged Sevenfold, Godsmack, Pantera, Queens Of The Stone Age, Weezer, Limp Bizkit, Megadeth, Rancid, Turnstile & More General Admission And VIP Passes On Sale Now Starting At $10 Down Win Louder Than Life tickets by entering HERE!   Support the show on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/rocknrollbedtimestories SHOW NOTES: Songs used in this episode: “Circle of Two” by Steve and Annie Chapman; “The Lucky One” by Taylor Swift; “Sweet Sucker Dance” by Joni Mitchell; “Four Letter Word” by Kim Wilde; “Ode to Billy Joe,” “He Made a Woman Out of Me” and “My Dog Sargent”  by Bobbie Gentry; “Fancy” by He Is Legend Swiftie Dad article: https://www.mtv.com/news/wtuea9/1989-tour-taylor-swift-dads-quiz-louisville https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_(Taylor_Swift_album) https://taylorswift.fandom.com/wiki/The_Lucky_One https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/oct/17/bobbie-gentry-trailblazing-queen-of-country https://www.distractify.com/p/who-is-the-lucky-one-by-taylor-swift-about https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/oct/17/bobbie-gentry-trailblazing-queen-of-country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joni_Mitchell https://www.nylon.com/entertainment/taylor-swift-britney-spears-lucky-one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Wilde https://www.greatbritishlife.co.uk/people/celebrity-interviews/20684250.kim-wilde-i-couldnt-choose-gardening-singing-/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/all-southerners-come-home--as-has-long-disappeared-music-legend-bobbie-gentry/2016/06/02/3988aba2-28df-11e6-a3c4-0724e8e24f3f_story.html Bobbie Gentry on Ed Sullivan (1970): https://youtu.be/qg6IjF4Tsa8 Bobbie playing the first song she ever wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhiWVcVjF6A

In His Grip
The Mother-In-Law Dance a Conversation with Annie Chapman

In His Grip

Play Episode Listen Later May 3, 2023


Google mother-in-law jokes and you can take your pick of numerous sites that offer laughter at the expense of the mother-in-law. Becoming a mother-in-law after pouring your life into your son might be one of the most difficult challenges some women face. Perhaps family conflict is one of the hardest places to experience help and hope. This conversation between Annie Chapman and Sharon Betters will help guide daughters-in-law and mothers-in-law through the sometimes difficult maze of “sharing” a man. Annie Chapman is the author of The Mother-In-Law Dance and knows from experience how challenging it can be to get along with your mother-in-law. She also has married sons so she brings great wisdom on family relationships that might be just what you need to find a bridge into your “in-law's” heart or build an even stronger relationship. Can two women love the same man and still get along? Annie says yes! And she offers sound advice for those times when only one party wants to have that friendship.

Who Did What Now
64. Annie Chapman - The Ripper's Second Kill

Who Did What Now

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 25, 2023 51:28


Annie Chapman, also known as "Dark Annie" had everything going for her, she had a husband with a good job, a family and she was in a social sense, upwardly mobile. Everything that a Victorian lady desired... So what happened to Annie that led her to the impoverished streets of Whitechapel and into the view of Jack the Ripper? Hosted by Katie Charlwood  Part of the Airwave Media Network - www.airwavemedia.com Listener Survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/airwave Wishlist Wishlist Donate at:  Patreon  Tip Jar Follow me on… Twitter Instagram TikTok Facebook Business Enquiries: katie@whodidwhatnowpod.com Looking to Advertise, Contact: advertising@airwavemedia.com Fan Mail: Who Did What Now Podcast Willow Tree Farm Donegal Ireland F94KX64 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

London Walks
Jack the Ripper Dossier, Part XII – Richard cross-examines the witnesses

London Walks

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 6, 2022 13:29


"eyewitness evidence is unreliable...such devastating mistakes by eyewitnesses are not rare"

London Walks
Jack the Ripper Dossier, Part XI – Annie Chapman, the crime scene

London Walks

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 28, 2022 8:15


London Walks
Jack the Ripper Dossier, Part X – Annie Chapman’s last days

London Walks

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 21, 2022 7:18


"that alone marked her as a fallen woman"

London Walks
Jack the Ripper, Part VIII – “lace boots, all old and dirty”

London Walks

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 7, 2022 6:33


The Art of Crime
The Whitechapel Murders (Artists Accused of Being Jack the Ripper)

The Art of Crime

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 16, 2022 37:56


In 1888, the malefactor known as Jack the Ripper killed at least five women—Polly Nichols, Annie Chapman, Elisabeth Stride, Catherine Eddowes, and Mary Jane Kelly—in the poverty-stricken district of Whitechapel, East London. In the first episode of this season, we discuss the victims' lives and times as well as their deaths. Show notes and full transcripts available at www.artofcrimepodcast.com.   If you'd like to support the show, please consider becoming a patron at www.patreon.com/artofcrimepodcast.   The Art of Crime is part of the Airwave Media network. To learn more about Airwave, visit www.airwavemedia.com. If you'd like to advertise on The Art of Crime, please email advertising@airwavemedia.com.

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Morbid
Episode 344: Jack the Ripper Part 2

Morbid

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 27, 2022 91:22


Jack the Ripper part two brings us the absolutely horrifying murder of Annie Chapman. Annie's story, much like the rest of the women who were killed, is incredibly devastating. She was struggling with sobriety when she landed on the shady streets in Spitalfields in the East end and was having a terrible time trying to find work to just get by. Robert Anderson, the head of the criminal investigations department was still on vacation, Sir Charles Warren's ego stepped on the scene and they were not even one step closer to uncovering the culprits identity.Check out these great books on the case:Jack the Ripper and The Case For Scotland Yard's Prime Suspect by Robert HouseThe Complete Jack the Ripper by Donald RumbelowThe Five: The Untold Lives of the Women Killed by Jack the Ripper by Hallie RubenholdThe Hidden Lives of Jack the Ripper's Victims by Robert HumeThe Ripper Code by Thomas ToughillAlso check out these sites on the case:JackTheRipper.orgCasebook: Jack The RipperSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Bizarre podcast
Jack The Ripper , The Canonical Five

Bizarre podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 16, 2022 104:26


The canonical five Ripper victims are Mary Ann Nichols, Annie Chapman, Elizabeth Stride, Catherine Eddowes, and Mary Jane Kelly and on todays episode i will be telling you how they lived and how they dies once jack the ripper met them this episode is a compiled version of all previous jack the ripper episodes.Bizarre Tales now has its very own you tube channel called Bizarre tales,please head over there and check it out , like , subscribe .....here is the linkhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXQNvacVKqwcxOgKMhLMOBAjoin us on Instagram , come and join inhttps://www.instagram.com/bizarrepodcast/or on Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/1045277836269589/?ref=shareCompetitionsFunChatPlease help me by subscribing and leaving me a nice review , if you want :)Thank youvisit www.bizarrepodcast.com to listen to the show or view the merch shop , key rings , T shirtshere is a link to the beautifully sang violet from mothers grave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yyBA...

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Homicide Worldwide Podcast
Jack the Ripper "The Whitechapel Murders" Ep 072

Homicide Worldwide Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 12, 2022 90:48


Jack the Ripper was an unidentified serial killer active in the impoverished districts in and around Whitechapel in the East End of London in 1888. In both criminal case files and the contemporary journalistic accounts, the killer was called the Whitechapel Murderer and Leather Apron.Attacks ascribed to Jack the Ripper typically involved female prostitutes who lived and worked in the slums of the East End of London. Their throats were cut prior to abdominal mutilations. The removal of internal organs from at least three of the victims led to proposals that their killer had some anatomical or surgical knowledge. Rumours that the murders were connected intensified in September and October 1888, and numerous letters were received by media outlets and Scotland Yard from individuals purporting to be the murderer. The name "Jack the Ripper" originated in a letter written by an individual claiming to be the murderer that was disseminated in the media. The letter is widely believed to have been a hoax and may have been written by journalists in an attempt to heighten interest in the story and increase their newspapers' circulation. The "From Hell" letter received by George Lusk of the Whitechapel Vigilance Committee came with half of a preserved human kidney, purportedly taken from one of the victims. The public came increasingly to believe in a single serial killer known as "Jack the Ripper", mainly because of both the extraordinarily brutal nature of the murders and media coverage of the crimes.Extensive newspaper coverage bestowed widespread and enduring international notoriety on the Ripper, and the legend solidified. A police investigation into a series of eleven brutal murders committed in Whitechapel and Spitalfields between 1888 and 1891 was unable to connect all the killings conclusively to the murders of 1888. Five victims—Mary Ann Nichols, Annie Chapman, Elizabeth Stride, Catherine Eddowes, and Mary Jane Kelly—are known as the "canonical five" and their murders between 31 August and 9 November 1888 are often considered the most likely to be linked. The murders were never solved, and the legends surrounding these crimes became a combination of historical research, folklore, and pseudohistory, capturing public imagination to the present day.Here's how and where you can find Homicide Worldwide Podcast.To help support the show, find us on Patreon: patreon.com HWW is now on Discord: https://discord.gg/F9cMyf7JFJTo our amazing listeners. If you are listening to us on apple podcasts? (and even if your'e not) Please! take few minutes and leave a 5 ⭐️ review. It'll really help out the show. If you have a show suggestion? please email us at: homicideworldwidepodcast@gmail.comAnd you can always find us on twitter: https://twitter.com/HWWP10Thank you for your continued support of Homicide Worldwide PodcastSupport the show

Midnight Train Podcast
Jack the Ripper Part 2. Like Seriously. Who Was This guy?

Midnight Train Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 12, 2022 104:30


Ep.151 Pt.2 Ripper suspects   This week in part 2…. Suspects in the jack the ripper case… there's a ton…like pretty much everyone alive at the time of the murders…and maybe some that weren't…who knows. So here we frigging go!    Montague John Druitt:   Although there may not be any concrete, scientific evidence against him, the Jack, The Ripper murders in London's East End ended after Druitt's suicide convinced one London detective (Melville Leslie Macnaghten) that Druitt was, in fact, Jack The Ripper himself.    Montague John Druitt, son of prominent local surgeon William Druitt, was a Dorset-born barrister. He also worked as an assistant schoolmaster in Blackheath, London, to supplement his income. Outside of work, his primary interest was cricket.   He played alongside the likes of Francis Lacey, the first man knighted for services to cricket. His numerous accolades in the game include dismissing John Shuter for a duck. The England batsman was playing for Bexley Cricket Club at the time.   On the recommendation of Charles Seymour and noted fielder Vernon Royle, Druitt was elected to the Marylebone Cricket Club (MCC) on May 26th, 1884. One of the minor matches for MCC was with England bowler William Attewell against Harrow School on June 10th, 1886. The MCC won by 57 runs.   Montague John Druitt's decomposed body was found floating in the Thames near Chiswick on December 31st, 1888. He had a return train ticket to Hammersmith dated December 1st, a silver watch, a cheque for £50 and £16 in gold (equivalent to £5,600 and £1,800 today).   He is believed to have committed suicide, a line of thought substantiated by the fact there were stones in his pockets. Possibly to keep his body submerged in the river.   The cause of his suicide is said to be his dismissal from his post at the Blackheath boys' school. The reason for his release is unclear. However, one newspaper, quoting his brother William's inquest testimony, reported being dismissed because he "had got into serious trouble." Although, it did not specify any further.   Several authors have suggested that Druitt may have been dismissed because he was a homosexual or a pederast. Another speculation is that the money found on his body would be used for payment to a blackmailer, or it could have simply been a final payment from the school.   Another possibility involving his dismissal and eventual death is an underlying hereditary psychiatric illness. His mother had already attempted suicide once by taking an overdose of laudanum. She died in an asylum in Chiswick in 1890. In addition, both his Grandmother and eldest sister committed suicide, while his aunt also attempted suicide.   A note written by Druitt and addressed to his brother William was found in Druitt's room in Blackheath. It read,                "Since Friday I felt that I was going to be like mother, and the best thing for me was to die."   The last of the canonical five murders had taken place shortly before Druitt's suicide. Following his death, there were no more ripper murders.   In 1891, a member of parliament from West Dorchester, England, began saying that the Ripper was "the son of a surgeon" who had committed suicide on the night of the last murder.   Assistant Chief Constable Sir Melville Macnaghten named Druitt as a suspect in the case.   He did so in a private hand-written memorandum on February 23rd, 1894. Macnaghten highlighted the coincidence between Druitt's disappearance and death shortly after the last of the five murders.   He also claimed to have unspecified "private information." One that left "little doubt" that Druitt's own family believed him to have been the murderer.   The memorandum read:    "I have always held strong opinions regarding him, and the more I think the matter over, the stronger do these opinions become. The truth, however, will never be known, and did indeed, at one time lie at the bottom of the Thames, if my conjections be correct!"   Macnaghten was convinced that Montague John Druitt was the serial killer they had long been looking for. However, he incorrectly described the 31-year old barrister as a 41-year-old doctor and cited allegations that he "was sexually insane" without specifying the source or details of the allegations.   Macnaghten did not join the force until 1889, after the murder of Kelly and the death of Druitt. He was also not involved in the investigation directly and is likely to have been misinformed.   There is also the case of Druitt playing Cricket games far away from London during many of the murders.   On September 1st, the day after the murder of Nichols, Druitt was in Dorset playing cricket. On the day of Chapman's murder, he played cricket in Blackheath. The day after the murders of Stride and Eddowes, he was in the West Country defending a client in a court case.   Some writers such as Andrew Spallek and Tom Cullen have argued that Druitt had the time and opportunity to travel by train between London and his cricket and legal engagements. He could have even used his city chambers as a base from which to commit the murders. However, several others have dismissed the claim as "improbable."   For instance, Druitt took 3 wickets in the match against the Christopherson brothers at Blackheath on September 8th, the day of the Chapman murder. He was on the field at 11.30 AM for the game and performed out of his skin. An event unlikely if he were walking the streets of London committing a murder at 5:30 AM.   Most experts now believe that the killer was local to Whitechapel. On the other hand, Druitt lived miles away on the other side of the Thames in Kent. Even Inspector Frederick Abberline appeared to dismiss Druitt as a serious suspect because the only evidence against him was the coincidental timing of his suicide shortly after the last canonical murder. Aaron Kosminski:   Aaron Kosminski was not a stable man. In 1891, he was sent to Colney Hatch Asylum. Psychiatric reports made during Kosminski's time there state that Kosminski heard auditory hallucinations that directed him to do things. Although some claim that Kosminski wasn't violent, there is a record of him threatening his own sister with a knife.    The "canonical five" murders which wrapped up the sum of the Ripper's official kills, stopped soon after Kosminski was put into an asylum. Present-day doctors think Kosminski might have been a paranoid schizophrenic, but it sure is suspicious that his institutionalization fits the timeline of Jack the Ripper.    Kosminski threatened his sister with a knife. Jack the Ripper is infamous for the violent way he murdered his female victims. This serial killer did things like slashing throats, removing organs, and severely disfiguring faces. The crimes he committed were grisly and suggested a severe hatred of women.    Kosminski definitely fits the description of hating women. He was terrible at socializing with women, and according to Chief Constable Melville Macnaghten, he was known for his profound resentment of women.    Macnaghten wrote, "This man became insane due to indulgence in solitary vices for many years. He had a great hatred of women, especially of the prostitute class, & had strong homicidal tendencies."    Hating prostitutes and suspected as being capable of murder? Kosminski is looking better and better as the chief Jack the Ripper suspect.    On the night of one of the murders, a woman named Elizabeth Long said she heard the man's voice who led Jack the Ripper victim, Annie Chapman, to her death. Long said she listened to the man ask Annie, "Will you?" as they were discussing their sex work arrangement. Long described the man's voice as having an accent.    Kosminski, as a Polish Jew, had an accent. A clue left on a Goulston Street wall in London suggested that Jack the Ripper had a native language other than English as well. The person who wrote the message spelled the word "Juwes" instead of "Jews." The entire statement read, "The Juwes are the men that will not be blamed for nothing." It was never understood what was actually meant by it.    What's more, Macnaghten wrote this about a suspect spotted fleeing on the night of Catherine Eddowes' murder: "This man in appearance strongly resembled the individual seen by the City P.C. near Mitre Square."    Care to guess who "the individual seen by the City P.C." Macnaughten referred to was? That's right. He was talking about Aaron Kosminski! Although reports of Jack the Ripper's appearance, in general, were inconsistent, Kosminski fit the appearance of someone spotted at one of the crime scenes. Macnaghten's report has been discredited, though, so take this information as you will.    In 2007, a man named Russel Edwards wanted to confirm the identity of Jack the Ripper so severely that he acquired the shawl of Jack the Ripper victim Catherine Eddowes. He had the shawl's DNA tested and confirmed that the genetic material on the shawl traced back to one of Kosminski's living relatives.    Edwards had written a book entitled, Naming Jack the Ripper, thus having something to gain, so people didn't believe this analysis. That is until the DNA was studied by an unrelated peer-reviewed science journal. In 2019, The Journal of Forensic Sciences confirmed that the DNA did indeed match Aaron Kosminski. The results were apparently sketchy and not tested again until 2019 by Liverpool John Moores University and the University of Leeds. The DNA presented matched the descendants of Kosminski and Eddowes. Although, the shawl was never documented in police custody.   Francis Craig:    Born in 1837 in Acton, west London, Francis Spurzheim Craig was the son of a well-known Victorian social reformer.   His father, ET Craig, was a writer and advocate of phrenology – interpreting personality types by feeling the shape of the head – a so-called "science" that was already falling out of fashion by the Ripper murders.   However, the family moved into influential west London circles, counting William Morris, the socialist and founder of the Arts and Crafts movement, among their friends.   Craig, like his father, was a journalist but not a successful one. Friends described him as sensitive yet stubborn.   After a period in the United States from 1864 to 1866, Craig spent time in local newspapers but in the 1871 Census listed himself as a person of "No occupation."   By 1875 he had been appointed editor of the Bucks Advertiser and Aylesbury News.   Here, Craig's journalism career suffered an almost terminal blow when he was caught cribbing reports from The Daily Telegraph and was brutally exposed as a plagiarist by a rival publication.   It is not known how he met Elizabeth Weston Davies – it may have been at William Morris' social gatherings – but they married on Christmas Eve 1884 in Hammersmith.   Just a few months later – on May 19th, 1885 – she was seen entering a private hotel near their marital home in Argyll Square, King's Cross, with a "young man … at 10 o'clock at night".   The book says it was a crushing blow for Craig, who had been unaware of his wife's involvement in prostitution.   She left and went into hiding in the East End under the pseudonym Mary Jane Kelly.   In The Real Mary Kelly, author Wynne Weston-Davies suggests Craig suffered from a mental illness, namely schizo-typal personality disorder.   Craig followed her to Whitechapel, taking lodgings at 306 Mile End Road.   He tried to locate the only woman he had ever loved, and as time passed, his love for her turned to hatred.   Then, he plotted to murder her, disguising his involvement by killing a series of prostitutes beforehand, the book suggests.   A few months after the murder of Elizabeth/Mary Jane, Craig left the East End and returned to west London as editor of the Indicator and West London News, a job he held until 1896.   In 1903, while living in lodgings at Carthew Road, Hammersmith, Craig cut his throat with a razor, leaving his landlady a note which read: "I have suffered a deal of pain and agony."   He did not die until four days later, Sunday, March 8th, 1903, and in an inquest, the coroner recorded a verdict of "Suicide whilst of unsound mind and when irresponsible for his actions."   Dr. Weston-Davies plans to exhume Elizabeth/Mary Jane's body to carry out DNA analysis, which he believes will show the true identity of the Ripper's final victim and, therefore, prove Craig's motive for the murders.   Carl Feigenbaum:   Carl Feigenbaum was most certainly a convicted murderer.   Indeed, he was convicted of and executed for the murder of Mrs. Juliana Hoffman, a 56-year-old widow who lived in two rooms above a shop at 544 East Sixth Street, New York, with her 16-year-old son, Michael.   Feigenbaum told the Hoffman's that he had lost his job as a gardener and therefore had no money. However, he assured them that he had been promised a job as a florist and that, once he was paid, on Saturday, September 1st, 1894, he would be able to pay them the rent that he owed. The Hoffmans took him at his word, a trust that would prove fatal for Mrs. Hoffman.   As a consequence of their having a lodger, who was given the rear of the two rooms, mother and son shared the front room, Juliana sleeping in the bed, and Michael occupying a couch at the foot of her bed.   Shortly after midnight, in the early hours of September 1st, 1894, Michael was woken by a scream, and, looking across to his mother's bed, he saw their lodger leaning over her, brandishing a knife. Michael lunged at Feigenbaum, who turned around and came at him with the knife.   Realizing he would be no match against an armed man, Michael escaped out of a window and began screaming for help.   Looking through the window, Michael watched in horror as Feigenbaum stabbed his mother in the neck and then cut her throat, severing the jugular. Juliana made one final attempt to defend herself and advanced toward her attacker, but she collapsed and fell to the floor.   Feigenbaum then returned to his room. H escaped out of the window, climbed down into the yard, and washed his hands at the pump. He then made his way out into an alleyway that led to the street.   So, how did his name become linked to the Whitechapel murders of 1888?   In a nutshell, he reputedly confessed to having been Jack the Ripper shortly before his execution.   It is noticeable that the British press didn't pay much attention to the trial of Carl Feigenbaum - until, following his execution, one of his lawyers made an eleventh-hour confession public.   Suddenly, articles about his confession began appearing in British newspapers, one of which was the following report, which appeared in Reynolds's Newspaper on Sunday, 3rd, May 1896:-                "An impression, based on an eleventh-hour confession and other evidence, prevails that Carl Feigenbaum, who was executed at Sing Sing on Monday, the real murderer of the New York outcast, nick-named Shakespeare, is possibly Jack the Ripper, of Whitechapel notoriety.   The proofs, however, are far from positive."   A week later, on Sunday, May 10th, 1896, Lloyd's Weekly Newspaper published a more detailed account of the confession, which had been made to his lawyer, William Stamford Lawton:-   "THE AMERICAN JACK THE RIPPER Carl Feigenbaum, who was executed in the electric chair at Sing Sing last week, is reported to have left a remarkable confession with his lawyer.   The account of the lawyer reads:-   "I have a statement to make, which may throw some light on the murder for which the man I represented was executed. Now that Feigenbaum is dead and nothing more can be done for him in this world, I want to say as his counsel that I am absolutely sure of his guilt in this case, and I feel morally certain that he is the man who committed many, if not all, of the Whitechapel murders.   Here are my reasons, and on this statement, I pledge my honour.   When Feigenbaum was in the Tombs awaiting trial, I saw him several times.   The evidence in his case seemed so clear that I cast about for a theory of insanity. Certain actions denoted a decided mental weakness somewhere.   When I asked him point blank, "Did you kill Mrs. Hoffman?", he made this reply:- "I have for years suffered from a singular-disease, which induces an all absorbing passion; this passion manifests itself in a desire to kill and mutilate the woman who falls in my way.   At such times I am unable to control myself."   On my next visit to the Tombs I asked him whether he had not been in London at various times during the whole period covered by the Whitechapel murders?   "Yes, I was," he answered.   I asked him whether he could not explain some of these cases: on the theory which he had suggested to me, and he simply looked at me in reply."   The statement, which is a long one, proves conclusively that Feigenbaum was more or less insane, but the evidence of his identity with the notorious Whitechapel criminal is not satisfactory."   Hmmm... Of course, many disagree with this and do not believe the confession.   In truth, there is no compelling evidence to suggest that Lawton may have been lying about what his client had told him, and it might just have been that Feigenbaum may have thought that, in confessing to the Whitechapel murders, he would buy him a little extra time.   Walter Sickert: The English Painter   The name of Walter Sickert has been linked to the Jack the Ripper murders by several authors. However, his role in the killings has been said to have varied enormously over the years.   According to some authors, he was an accomplice in the Whitechapel Murders, while others depicted him as knowing who was responsible for the crimes and duly informing them.   But, according to the crime novelist Patricia Cornwell in her 2002 book "Portrait of a Killer - Jack the Ripper Case Closed," Sickert was, in fact, the man who carried out the crimes that became known as the Jack the Ripper Murders.   According to Cornwell's theory, Walter Sickert had been made impotent by a series of painful childhood operations for a fistula of the penis.   This impotence had scarred him emotionally and had left him with a pathological hatred of women, which, in time, led him to carry out the series of murders in the East End of London.   Doubts were raised about her theory when it was pointed out that St Mark's Hospital, where the operations on the young Sickert were supposedly performed, specialized in rectal and not genital fistulas.   Butts, not nuts.   So what evidence is there to suggest that Sickert possessed a pathological hatred of women?   Again, not shit, really. In "Portrait of a killer," Cornwell cites a series of Sickert's paintings inspired by the murder in 1908 of a Camden Town prostitute by Emily Dimmock. According to Patricia Cornwall's hypothesis, this series of pictures bears a striking resemblance to the post-mortem photographs of the victims of Jack the Ripper.   Now there is little doubt that Sickert was fascinated by murder and finding different ways to depict the menace of the crime and the criminal.   But, to cite this as evidence that he was actually a murderer - and, specifically, the murderer who carried out the Jack the Ripper killings - is hardly definitive proof.   As you passengers more than likely know, when looking at a particular Jack the Ripper suspect or any murder suspect, you need to be able to link your suspect with the crime.   You need to, for example, be able to place them at the scene of the crime, duh.   Here again, the case against Sickert unravels slightly since evidence suggests that he may not even have been in England when the murders were committed.   Many letters from several family members refer to him vacationing in France for a period corresponding to most of the Ripper murders.   Although it's been suggested that he might have traveled to London to commit the murders and then returned to France, no evidence has been produced to indicate that he did so.   Cornwall also contends that Sickert was responsible for writing most of the Jack the Ripper correspondence and frequently uses statements made in those letters to strengthen her case against him.   Authorities on the case and the police at the time, nearly all, share the opinion that none of the letters - not even the Dear Boss missive that gave him his name - was the work of the killer.   In addition, there is the problem that the style of the letters varies so significantly in grammatical structure, spelling, and hand-writing that it is almost impossible for a single author to have created all of them.   In her quest to prove Sickert's guilt, Cornwall also funded DNA tests on numerous stamps and envelopes, which she believed that Sickert had licked and compared the DNA to that found on the Ripper letters. Interestingly, a possible match was found with the stamp on the Dr. Openshaw letter.   Critics, however, have pointed out that the DNA comparisons focused on mitochondrial DNA, which could be shared by anything from between 1% and 10% of the population, so it was hardly unique to Sickert.   The last characters are generally considered the top suspects in the car; however that hasn't stopped many others from being implicated. Including known serial killers and even royalty.   H.H. Holmes:   He is known as "America's First Serial Killer," but some believe America was not his only hunting ground.    Jeff Mudgett, a lawyer and former Commander in the U.S. Naval Reserve, claims that his great-great-grandfather, H.H. Holmes, was DUN DUN, Jack the Ripper. Mudgett bases his assertions on the writings in two diaries he inherited from Holmes, which detail Holmes's participation in the murder and mutilation of numerous prostitutes in London. Mudgett also claims that the man who died in the public hanging on May 7th, 1896, was not Holmes, but rather a man that Holmes tricked into going to the gallows in his place.   Travel documentation and witness accounts also lend themselves to the theory that Jack the Ripper and Holmes are the same. The biggest issue with Holmes and the Ripper being the same psychopathic man is that one was in Chicago and the other in London when international travel was not as easy as it is now. Back then, traveling between the U.K. and the U.S. was by boat, which could take about a month. However, with the Ripper killings ending in early 1889 and the first Holmes killing at the end of 1889, the timeline is entirely possible.   It is recorded that a passenger by the name of H. Holmes traveled from the U.K. to the U.S. at that time. Holmes is a pretty popular last name, and H.H. Holmes' legal name was actually Herman Webster Mudgett, but it is possible.   In addition, based on accounts and descriptions of Jack the Ripper, multiple sketch artists were able to come up with a drawing of Jack the Ripper, which looked eerily similar to H.H. Holmes. However, another account describes Jack the Ripper as having "brown eyes and brown hair," which could really be anyone.   Experts deny that H.H. Holmes and Jack the Ripper are the same person because they had different motives. While Jack the Ripper typically went after poor women who were sex workers, H.H. Holmes was naturally after money. He was adept at moving accounts and signing life insurance over to his many aliases. In addition, he'd try to find people disconnected from family or else murder entire families and siblings to take inheritances.   Of the deniers to the theory, Jeff Mudgett had this to say:   "There are too many coincidences for this to be another bogus theory,"     "I know that the evidence is out there to prove my theory and I'm not going to give up until I find it."   Except for those diaries he claims to have. He refuses to show anyone, even going as far as to not print pictures of them in his book. His excuse for this is that it's "technically evidence" and could be confiscated by law enforcement because there is no statute of limitations on murder.   Prince Albert Victor: The guy with the dick jewelry name.   Everyone loves a conspiracy theory, and there have been few better than the theory of Prince Albert Victor impregnating a "shop girl" named Annie Crook. Obviously, the royal family had Queen Victoria's physician Dr. Gull brutalize her at a mental institution until she forgot everything. She then left the illegitimate child with prostitute Mary Kelly, who blabbed about the relationship to her friends (also prostitutes). With this scandalous knowledge, they were quickly and quietly disposed of – in a series of killings so grisly and high profile that we're still talking about them over a century later. There is also talk of him contracting syphilis from his many days of frolicking in East End brothels, causing him to become "insane" and, naturally, a serial killer. Unfortunately, the story is spoiled by his being out of London during the murders. Oh, and the total lack of evidence for any of this.   Lewis Carroll: Ya know, the Alice in Wonderland author.   Even though more than 500 people have been accused as Ripper suspects at one time or another, the most outlandish must be Richard Wallace's theory in his 1996 book, "Jack the Ripper, Light-Hearted Friend." Wallace took passages from Carroll's children's books and derived garbage anagrams from them, changing and leaving out letters as they suited his bizarre purposes. Watch the documentary "Sons of Sam for more idiocy like this." People always seem to find a way to contort information to fit their agendas. But I digress. From The Nursery Alice, he took "So she wandered away, through the wood, carrying the ugly little thing with her. And a great job it was to keep hold of it, it wriggled about so. But at last she found out that the proper way was to keep tight hold of its left foot and its right ear" and turned it into "She wriggled about so! But at last Dodgson and Bayne found a way to keep hold of the fat little whore. I got a tight hold of her and slit her throat, left ear to right. It was tough, wet, disgusting, too. So weary of it, they threw up – Jack the Ripper".    If that's proof, I don't know what isn't.   Dr. Thomas Neill Cream:   This doctor was hanged for an unrelated murder at Newgate Prison. His executioner, James Billington, swears Cream's last words were "I am Jack the …," Which is weird if your name is Thomas. It was taken by many as a confession to being Jack the Ripper, of course, but being cut off by his execution meant no one managed to quiz him on it. He was in prison at the time of the murders, and the notion that he was out killing prostitutes while a "lookalike" served his prison sentence for him is, to say the least, unlikely.   Mary' Jill the Ripper' Pearcey:   The only female suspect at the time, Mary Pearcey, was convicted of murdering her lover's wife, and some suspect her of being behind the Whitechapel killings as well – though the evidence is pretty much nonexistent. Sherlock creator Sir Arthur Conan Doyle speculated that a woman could have carried around blood-stained clothing without suspicion if she had pretended to be a midwife. DNA results found by an Australian scientist in 2006 suggested the Ripper "may have been a woman" – but only because they were inconclusive.   Michael Ostrog:   Much of Michael Ostrog's life is wreathed in shadow; clearly, this was a man who liked to keep his secrets close to his chest.   Ostrog was born in Russia in approximately 1833. However, we know little of his life until he arrived in the U.K. in 1863. Unfortunately, it seems as though Michael Ostrog had already committed to a life of scams, robbery, and petty theft.   In 1863, he was arrested and jailed for 10 months for trying to rob the University of Oxford. He was also using the alias of 'Max Grief,' a trend that would continue later on in his life.   Michael Ostrog was not considered a Jack the Ripper suspect until his name was mentioned alongside several other notable Ripper suspects in a memorandum in 1894. Sir Melville Macnaghten was the Assistant Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police in London between 1903 and 1913, yet he also played a role in the Whitechapel Murders case. In this memorandum, he proposed Michael Ostrog as one of the most likely Jack the Ripper suspects (in his opinion) alongside Montague John Druitt and Aaron Kosminski.   However, despite Macnaghten's belief in his guilt, it was never proven that Michael Ostrog committed any murders. Thefts, robberies, scams, and fraud – yes, but murders? The evidence remains inconclusive.   Francis Tumblety:   Born in 1833, Francis Tumblety's humble start in life is a mystery. Some sources say that he was born in Ireland, while others suggest he was born in Canada. Regardless, we know that he moved to Rochester, New York, with his family within his life's first decade or so.   Tumblety moved around a lot during the 1850s and 1860s, staying in various places across the U.S. and Canada but never truly settling or finding a permanent home for himself. He posed as a doctor on his travels, claiming to have secret knowledge of mystical cures and medicines from India, but, likely, this was simply fabricated to drum up more business and interest in his services.   He was arrested in Canada twice – once for performing illegal abortions, then again for a patient's sudden, suspicious death. In 1865, Tumblety lived in Missouri under the fake name of 'Dr Blackburn.' However, this backfired spectacularly when he was mistakenly taken for the real Dr. Blackburn, who was actually wanted by police in connection with the murder of Abraham Lincoln! As a result, Francis Tumblety was arrested once again. Dumbass.   Sometime in the intervening years, Tumblety moved across the pond - possibly to escape further arrests - and was known to be living in London by the summer of 1888. He again posed as a doctor and peddled his fabricated trade to unsuspecting Londoners.   The police began to investigate Tumblety in August of that year, possibly because he was a Jack the Ripper suspect and due to the nature of his business. Sadly, the files and notes from the Victorian investigation have been lost over the years. However, many Ripperologists have since weighed in to give their opinions.   Interestingly, at the time, there had been rumors that an American doctor had approached the London Pathology Museum, reportedly in an attempt to purchase the uteruses of deceased women. Could this have been Francis Tumblety, or was it just a strange coincidence? An unusual request, for sure. However, a line of inquiry like this would have been taken extremely seriously by detectives at the height of Jack the Ripper's reign of terror.   Eventually, Tumblety's luck ran out, and on November 7th, 1888, he was arrested in London. Although the arrest specifics are not known today, we see that he was arrested for "unnatural offences," which could have meant several different things. This could also have referred to homosexual relations or rape, as homosexuality was still illegal.   He was released on bail, which crucially means that he was accessible and potentially able to have committed the horrific murder of Mary Jane Kelly on November 9th, 1888. The timeframe fits, and evidently, the police came to this conclusion, too, as Tumblety was subsequently rearrested on November 12th and held on suspicion of murdering Mary Jane Kelly.   Released on bail once again on November 16th, Francis Tumblety took the opportunity to flee London. Instead, he headed to France before returning to the U.S.  Tumblety then did a vanishing act and seemingly disappeared into the ether.   The next few years were a mystery, and Tumblety did not surface again until 1893, five years later. He lived out the remainder of his life in his childhood home in Rochester, New York, where he died in 1903 as a wealthy man.   The evidence certainly seems to point towards Tumblety's guilt, and indeed, the fact that he was arrested multiple times in connection with the Ripper murders suggests that he was undoubtedly one of the police's top Jack the Ripper suspects.   Today, many of the details have been lost over the years. The original Scotland Yard files are missing, meaning that we don't know why Tumblety was charged – or what he was charged with in connection to the Whitechapel Murders. However, we can learn from the arrests that the evidence brought against Tumblety could not have been watertight. Otherwise, he would never have been released on bail. It seems there was still an element of doubt in the minds of the detectives.   David Cohen:   The theory put together, pinning the chilling Whitechapel murders on one David Cohen, claims that this name was actually the 'John Doe' identity given to him at the time. He was taken in when found stumbling through the streets of East End London in December of 1888, a few short months after the autumn of terror. However, it is claimed that Cohen's real name was Nathan Kaminsky, a Polish Jew that matched the description of the wanted man known as 'Leather Apron,' who would later form the pseudonym of Jack the Ripper.   Cohen, born in 1865, was not actually named as a potential suspect in the Jack the Ripper case until Martin Fido's book 'The Crimes, Detection and Death of Jack the Ripper was published in 1987 – almost 100 years later. The book detailed Cohen's alleged erratic and violent behavior, making him a good fit for the killers' profile. As per an 1895 article by Sir Robert Anderson, who was the Assistant Commissioner CID at Scotland Yard at the time of the murders, it becomes apparent that the killer was identified by a witness. The witness, however, refused to come forward in an official capacity, leading Anderson to write, "the only person who had ever had a good view of the murderer unhesitatingly identified the suspect the instant he was confronted with him; but he refused to give evidence against him."   Later, in his 1910 book 'The Lighter Side of My Official Life,' Anderson published a memoir hand-written by ex-Superintendent Donald S. Swanson, in which he named Aaron Kosminski as the suspect who matched the description of a Polish Jew. The passage reads: "The suspect had, at the Seaside Home where he had been sent by us with difficulty in order to subject him to identification, and he knew he was identified."   "On suspect's return to his brother's house in Whitechapel he was watched by the police (City CID) by day & night. In time, the suspect with his hands tied behind his back, he was sent to Stephney Workhouse and then to Colney Hatch and died shortly afterwards - Kosminski was the suspect – DSS."   Last one.   Lastly, on our list is one I didn't know anything about. As I was going through the research Moody so eloquently and diligently accrued, I stumbled up one more suspect.    There is little information about the suspect, but apparently, he was a traveling charioteer with accessibility to and from the White Chapel district during the murders. Unfortunately, his birthdate is unknown, making his age impossible to gauge. The only thing Scotland Yard has on file is a single word found near 2 of the victims and a noise heard by a handful of citizens who were close to the scene of the crimes.   That word was "Candy," and that horrible, unsettling sound was that of a rattling wallet chain...    Honestly, we could go on all day, but everything from here gets pretty convoluted. But, honestly, there's always a link if you stretch it far enough.   https://www.jack-the-ripper.org/films.htm

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Midnight Train Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 5, 2022 110:54


ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FRIGGIN' EPISODES! Thank you all so much!! Consider becoming a Patreon POOPR! www.themidnighttrainpodcast.com  London in 1888:   Victorian London was not a happy place to be, and the facts speak for themselves. Prostitution was rife, poverty and crime were prevalent, and 19th-century housing was barely habitable. Finding work in 1888 was extremely difficult for the residents of Whitechapel, feeding into the cycle of poverty and depravity.   Soot and smoke generally filled the air, and there were still grazing sheep in Regent's Park in the mid-Victorian period — it was said that you could tell how long the sheep had been in the capital by how dirty their coats were. They went increasingly from white to black over days.   The nights were riddled with gas lamp-lit streets and dark, foggy alleyways.   The city was steeped in poverty and all manner of crime and disease.   Many children were seen as a strain on their parents' resources, and it is believed that two in every ten died before reaching five years old.   breeding ground for crime and poor behavioral habits, including murder, prostitution, and violence – and vicious circles like these were rarely broken in such poor districts   Streets were dirty, and fresh food was scarce. Pollution and sewage smells filled the air.   Urine soaked the streets. There was an experiment in Piccadilly with wood paving in the midcentury. It was abandoned after a few weeks because the sheer smell of ammonia coming from the pavement was horrible. Also, the shopkeepers nearby said that this ammonia was discoloring their shop fronts.   London in the 19th century was basically filled with cesspools.   There'd be brick chambers, maybe 6 feet deep, about 4 feet wide, and every house would have them.   It was more common to have a cesspool in the basement in central London and in more crowded areas.   Above the cesspool would be where your household privy, or toilet, would be.   These made the general smell in crowded London pretty awful.   There would have been horses everywhere. By the 1890s, there were approximately 300,000 horses and 1,000 tons of horse droppings a day in London. The Victorians employed boys ages 12 to 14 to dodge between the traffic and try to scoop up the excrement as soon as it hit the streets.   Shit everywhere.   The streets were lined with "mud,"... except it wasn't mud.    Life was much harder for women than men generally.   The lack of proper work and money led many women and girls into prostitution, a high-demand service by those wishing to escape their grim realities.   These women were commonly known as "unfortunates,"   They owned only what they wore and carried in their pockets - their dirty deeds would pay for their bed for the night.   There was an extraordinary lack of contraception for women.   Doctors performed unorthodox abortions in dirty facilities, including the back streets.   Many women would die of infection from these ill-performed surgeries or ingesting chemicals or poison.   The insides of the houses throughout the borough were no less uninviting and more reminiscent of slums.   Many of these dilapidated homes were makeshift brothels.   Prostitution was a dangerous trade, as diseases were passed from person to person very quickly, and doctors did not come cheap.   Most work came through casual or 'sweated' labor, like tailoring, boot making, and making matchboxes.   There was very little job security, and the work premises would more than likely be small, cramped, dusty rooms with little to no natural light.   Workhouses were another alternative, set up to offer food and shelter to the poorest of the community in return for hard, grueling labor in even worse conditions.   large portions of the population turned to drinking or drugs to cope with everyday life   Pubs and music halls were abundant in the East End, and booze was cheap, too, making it a viable means of escapism for many.   Crime rates spiraled and were unmanageable by London's police force in 1888. Petty crime like street theft was normality.   High levels of alcohol-related violence, gang crime, and even protection rackets were everywhere.   The high level of prostitution meant that vulnerable women were often forced to earn a living on the streets, leaving them easy targets for assault, rape, and even murder.   Police stations and the detectives at the helm lacked structure and organization, with many crimes being mislabelled, evidence going missing, or being tampered with was common.    The maze of dingy alleyways and dark courtyards, each with multiple entrances and exit points, made the district even more difficult to police. There were even some parts of Whitechapel that police officers were afraid to enter, making them crime hotspots.   With that brief look into what it was like in Whitechapel, it is no wonder that Jack the Ripper could get away with his crimes. That being said, let's look at the crimes and victims.   Mary Ann Nichols:   Mary Ann Nichols led a brief life marked with hardships. Born to a London locksmith in 1845, she married Edward in 1864 and gave birth to five children before the marriage dissolved in 1880.   In explaining the roots of the separation, Nichols' father accused Edward of having an affair with the nurse who attended one of their children's births. For his part, Edward claimed that Nichols' drinking problem drove them to part ways.   After separating, the court required Edward to give his estranged wife five shillings per month, over 600 pounds today— a requirement he successfully challenged when he found out she was working as a prostitute.   Nichols then lived in and out of workhouses until her death. She tried living with her father, but they did not get along, so she continued to work as a prostitute to support herself. Though she once worked as a servant in a well-off family home, she quit because her employers did not drink.   On the night of her death, Nichols found herself surrounded by the same problems she'd had for most of her life: lack of money and a propensity to drink. On 31st August 1888, she left the pub where she was drinking and walked back to the boarding house where she planned to sleep for the night.   Nichols lacked the funds to pay for the entrance fee, so she went back out to earn it. But, according to her roommate, who saw her the night before someone killed her, she spent whatever money she did earn on alcohol.   That night Mary was wearing a bonnet that none of the other residents of the lodging house had seen her with before. Since she intended to resort to prostitution to raise the money for her bed, she felt this would be an irresistible draw to potential clients. So, she was escorted from the premises by the deputy lodging housekeeper. She laughed to him, "I'll soon get my doss money, see what a jolly bonnet I have now."   At 2.30 on the morning of 31st August, she met a friend named Emily Holland by the shop at the junction of Osborn Street and Whitechapel Road.   Mary was very drunk, and she boasted to Emily that she had made her lodging money three times over but had spent it.   Concerned at Mary's drunken state, Emily tried to persuade her to come back to Wilmott's with her. Mary refused, and, telling Emily that she must get her lodging money somehow, she stumbled off along Whitechapel Road.   That was the last time that Mary Nichols was seen alive.   At 3.45 a.m., a woman's body was found with her skirt pulled up to her waist, lying next to a gateway in Buck's Row, Just off Whitechapel Road. This location was around a ten-minute walk from the corner where Mary met Emily Holland.   According to some newspaper reports, the woman's throat had been cut back to the spine, the wound being so savagely inflicted that it had almost severed her head from her body.   Within 45 minutes, she had been placed on a police ambulance, which was nothing more than a wooden hand cart. She had been taken to the mortuary of the nearby Whitechapel Workhouse Infirmary.   Here, Inspector Spratling of the Metropolitan Police's J Division arrived to take down a description of the, at the time, unknown victim, and he made the horrific discovery that, in addition to the dreadful wound to the throat, a deep gash ran along the woman's abdomen - The killer had disemboweled her.   The funeral of Mary Ann Nichols took place amidst great secrecy to deter morbid sightseers on Thursday, 6th September 1888.   Strangely, the ruse used to get Mary Nichols's body to the undertaker's could be said to have included an element of foreshadowing.   Mary Nichols's body was brought out of the mortuary's back gate in Chapman's Court, from where it was taken to the undertaker's premises on Hanbury Street.   Two days later, the murderer struck again and murdered Annie Chapman in Hanbury Street.   Annie Chapman:   Annie Chapman didn't always lead a hard life. She lived for some time with her husband, John, a coachman, in West London.   However, after the couple had children, her life began to unravel: Her son, John, was born disabled, and her youngest daughter, Emily, died of meningitis. She and her husband both began to drink heavily and eventually separated in 1884.   After the separation, Chapman moved to Whitechapel to live with another man. While she still received ten shillings per week from her husband, she sometimes worked as a prostitute to supplement her income.   When her husband died from alcohol abuse, that money stopped. According to her friends, Chapman "seemed to have given away all together." Then, a week before she died, Chapman got into a fistfight with another woman over an unreturned bar of soap.   At 5 p.m. on Friday, 7th September, Annie met her friend, Amelia Palmer, in Dorset Street. Annie looked extremely unwell and complained of feeling "too ill to do anything."   Amelia met her again, ten minutes later, still standing in the same place, although Annie was trying desperately to rally her spirits. "It's no use giving way, I must pull myself together and get some money or I shall have no lodgings," were the last words Amelia Palmer heard Annie Chapman speak.   At 11.30 p.m. that night, Annie turned up at Crossingham's lodging house and asked Timothy Donovan if she could sit in the kitchen.   Since he hadn't seen her for a few days, Donovan asked her where she had been? "In the infirmary," she replied weakly. He allowed her to go to the kitchen, where she remained until Saturday morning, 8th September 1888.   At 1.45 a.m., Donovan sent John Evans, the lodging house's night watchman, to collect the fourpence for her bed from her. He found her a little drunk and eating potatoes in the kitchen. When he asked her for the money, she replied wearily, "I haven't got it. I am weak and ill and have been in the infirmary."   Annie then went to Donovan's office and implored him to allow her to stay a little longer. But instead, he told her that if she couldn't pay, she couldn't stay.   Annie turned to leave, but then, turning back, she told him to save the bed for her, adding, "I shall not be long before I am in. I shall soon be back, don't let the bed."   John Evans then escorted her from the premises and watched her head off along Dorset Street, observing later that she appeared to be slightly tipsy instead of drunk.   At 5.30 that morning, Elizabeth Long saw her talking with a man outside number 29 on Hanbury Street. Since there was nothing suspicious about the couple, she continued on her way, hardly taking any actual notice.   Thirty minutes later, at 6 a.m., John Davis, an elderly resident of number 29, found her horrifically mutilated body lying between the steps and the fence in the house's backyard.   Annie had been murdered, and her body mutilated. She had a cut across her neck from left to right and a gash in her abdomen made by the same blade.   Her intestines had been pulled out and draped over her shoulders, and her uterus had been removed. The doctor conducting the post-mortem was so appalled by the damage done to her corpse that he refused to use explicit detail during the inquest. Police determined that she died of asphyxiation and that the killer mutilated her after she died.    She was later identified by her younger brother, Fountain Smith.   The severing of the throat and the mutilation of the corpse were similar to that of the injuries sustained by Mary Ann Nichols a week previously, leading investigators to believe the same assailant had murdered them.   At this point, the killings were known as 'The Whitechapel Murders."   Elizabeth Stride:   The Swedish-born domestic servant arrived in England in 1866, at which point she had already given birth to a stillborn baby and been treated for venereal diseases.   Stride married in 1869, but they soon split, and he ultimately died of tuberculosis in 1884. Stride would instead tell people that her husband and children (which they never actually had) were killed in an infamous 1878 Thames River steamship accident. She allegedly sustained an injury during that ordeal that explained her stutter.   With her husband gone and lacking a steady source of income, like so many of Jack the Ripper's victims, Stride split the remainder of her life living between work and lodging houses.    On Saturday, 29th September 1888, she had spent the afternoon cleaning two rooms at the lodging house, for which the deputy keeper paid her sixpence, and, by 6.30 p.m., she was enjoying a drink in the Queen's Head pub at the junction of Fashion Street and Commercial Street.   Returning to the lodging house, she dressed, ready for a night out, and, at 7.30 p.m., she left the lodging house.   There were several sightings of her over the next five hours, and, by midnight, she had found her way to Berner Street, off Commercial Road.   At 12.45 a.m., on 30th September, Israel Schwartz saw her being attacked by a man in a gateway off Berner Street known as Dutfield's Yard. Schwarz, however, assumed he was witnessing a domestic argument, and he crossed over the road to avoid getting dragged into the quarrel.   Schwartz likely saw the early stages of her murder.   At 1 a.m. Louis Diemschutz, the Steward of a club that sided onto Dutfield's Yard, came down Berner Street with his pony and costermongers barrow and turned into the open gates of Dutfield's Yard. Immediately as he did so, the pony shied and pulled left. Diemschutz looked into the darkness and saw a dark form on the ground. He tried to lift it with his whip but couldn't. So, he jumped down and struck a match. It was wet and windy, and the match flickered for just a few seconds, but it was sufficient time for Diemschutz to see a woman lying on the ground.   He thought that the woman might be his wife and that she was drunk, so he went into the club to get some help in lifting her.   However, he found his wife in the kitchen, and so, taking a candle, he and several other members went out into the yard, and, by the candle's light, they could see a pool of blood gathering beneath the woman.   The crowd sent for the police, and a doctor was summoned, pronouncing the woman dead. It was noted that, as in the cases of the previous victims, the killer had cut the woman's throat. However, the rest of the body had not been mutilated. This led the police to deduce that Diemschutz had interrupted the killer when he turned into Dutfield's Yard.   The body was removed to the nearest mortuary - which still stands, albeit as a ruin, in the nearby churchyard of St George-in-the-East, and there she was identified as Elizabeth Stride.   On the night of her burial, a lady went to a police station in Cardiff, and made the bizarre claim that she had spoken with the spirit of Elizabeth Stride. In the course of a séance, the victim had identified her murderer.   Nothing ever came of this…obviously.   CATHERINE EDDOWES:   Unlike the other Jack the Ripper victims, Catherine Eddowes never married and spent her short life with multiple men.   At age 21, the daughter of a tin plate worker met Thomas Conway in her hometown of Wolverhampton. The couple lived together for 20 years and had three children together. But, according to her daughter, Annie, the pair split "entirely on account of her drinking habits."   Eddowes met John Kelly soon after. She then became known as Kate Kelly and stayed with John until her death.   According to her friends and family, while Catherine was not a prostitute, she was an alcoholic. The night of her murder — the same night Elizabeth Stride was killed — a policeman found Catherine lying drunk and passed out on Aldgate Street.   She was taken to Bishopsgate Police Station, locked in a cell to sober up. But instead, she promptly fell fast asleep.   By midnight, she was awake and was deemed sober enough for release by the City jailer PC George Hutt. Before leaving, she told him that her name was Mary Ann Kelly and gave her address as 6 Fashion Street.   Hutt escorted her to the door of the police station, and he told her to close it on her way out. "Alright. Goodnight old cock" was her reply as she headed out into the early morning.   At 1.35 a.m., three men - Joseph Lawende, Joseph Hyam Levy, and Harry Harris saw her talking with a man at the Church Passage entrance into Mitre Square, located on the eastern fringe of the City of London.   Ten minutes later, at 1.45 a.m. Police Constable Alfred Watkins walked his beat into Mitre Square and discovered her horrifically mutilated body lying in the darkness of the Square's South West corner. The killer had disemboweled her. But, in addition, the killer had targeted her face, carving deep "V"s into her cheeks and eyelids. He had also removed and gone off with her uterus and left kidney. Finally, he had cut open her intestines to release fecal matter.   Dr. Frederick Brown, who performed the post-mortem examination of Eddowes' body, concluded that the killer must have some knowledge of anatomy if he could remove her organs in the dark. Mary Jane Kelly:   She is the victim about whom we know the least.   We know virtually nothing about her life before she arrives in the East End of London. What we do know is based on what she chose to reveal about her past to those she knew, and the integrity of what she did tell is challenging to ascertain. Indeed, we don't even know that her name was Mary Kelly.   According to her boyfriend, Joseph Barnett, with whom she lived until shortly before her death, she had told him that she was born in Limerick, in Ireland, that her father's name was John Kelly, and that she had six or seven brothers and one sister.   The family moved to Wales when she was a child, and when she was sixteen, she met and married a collier named Davis or Davies. Unfortunately, her husband was killed in a mine explosion three years later, and Mary moved to Cardiff to live with a female cousin who introduced her to prostitution.   Mary moved to London around 1884, where she met a French woman who ran a high-class brothel in Knightsbridge, in which establishment Mary began working. She told Barnett that, during this period in her life, she had dressed well, had been driven about in a carriage, and, for a time, had led a lady's life.   She had, she said, made several visits to France at this time, and had accompanied a gentleman to Paris, but, not liking it there, she had returned to London after just two weeks.   She began using the continental version of her name and often referred to herself as Marie Jeannette Kelly.   After that, her life suffered a downward spiral, which saw her move to the East End of London, where she lodged with a Mrs. Buki in a side thoroughfare off Ratcliff Highway. Soon after her arrival, she enlisted her landlady's assistance in returning to the West End to retrieve a box that contained dresses of a costly description from the French lady.   Mary had now started drinking heavily, which led to conflict between her and Mrs. Buki. Relations between them became so strained that Mary moved out and went to lodge at the home of Mrs. Mary McCarthy at 1 Breezer's Hill Pennington Street, St. George-in-the-East.   By 1886 she had moved into Cooley's typical lodging house in Thrawl Street, and it was while living here that, on Good Friday, 6th April 1887, she met Joseph Barnett, who worked as a porter at Billingsgate Fish Market.   The two were soon living together, and, by 1888, they were renting a tiny room at 13 Miller's Court from John McCarthy, who owned a chandler's shop just outside Miller's Court on Dorset Street.   She and Barnett appear to have lived happily together until, in mid-1888, he lost his market job, and she returned to prostitution, which caused arguments between them. During one heated exchange, a pane in the window by the door of their room had been broken.   The precariousness of their finances had resulted in Mary falling behind with her rent, and by early November, she owed her landlord twenty-nine shillings in rent arrears.   On 30th October 1888, Joseph Barnett moved out, although he and Mary remained on friendly terms, and he would drop by to see her, the last time being at around 7.30 on the evening of Thursday 8th November, albeit he didn't stay long.   Several people claimed to have seen her during the next fourteen hours.   One of them was George Hutchinson, an unemployed laborer, who met her on Commercial Street at 2 a.m. on 9th November. She asked him if he would lend her sixpence, to which he replied that he couldn't as he'd spent all his money.   Replying that she must go and find some money, she continued along Commercial Street, where a man coming from the opposite direction tapped her on the shoulder and said something to her, at which point they both started laughing.   The man put his arm around Mary, and they started walking back along Commercial Street, passing Hutchinson, who was standing under the lamp by the Queen's Head pub at the junction of Fashion Street and Commercial Street.   Although the man had his head down with his hat over his eyes, Hutchinson stooped down and looked him in the face, at which point the man gave him what Hutchinson would later describe as a stern look.   Hutchinson followed them as they crossed into Dorset Street, and he watched them turn into Miller's Court. He waited outside the court for 45 minutes, by which time they hadn't reemerged, so he left the scene.   At around 4 a.m., two of Mary's neighbors heard a faint cry of "Murder," but because such cries were frequent in the area - often the result of a drunken brawl - they both ignored it.   At 10. Forty-five on the morning of the 9th November, her landlord, John McCarthy, sent his assistant, Thomas Bowyer, round to Mary's room, telling him to try and get some rent from her.   Bowyer marched into Miller's Court and banged on her door. There was no reply. He tried to open it but found it locked. He, therefore, went round to the broken window pane, reached in, pushed aside the shabby muslin curtain that covered it, and looked into the gloomy room.   Moments later, an ashen-faced Bowyer burst into McCarthy's shop on Dorset Street. "Guvnor," he stammered, "I knocked at the door and could not make anyone answer. I looked through the window and saw a lot of blood."   "Good God, you don't mean that," was McCarthy's reply, and the two men raced into Miller's Court, where McCarthy stooped down and looked through the broken pane of glass.   McCarthy would later recall the horror of the scene that greeted him. "The sight we saw I cannot drive away from my mind. It looked more the work of a devil than of a man. I had heard a great deal about the Whitechapel murders, but I declare to God I had never expected to see such a sight as this. The whole scene is more than I can describe. I hope I may never see such a sight as this again."   Someone immediately sent for the police, and one of the first officers at the scene was Walter Dew, who, many years later, would recall the horror of what he saw through that window:- "On the bed was all that remained of the young woman. There was little left of her, not much more than a skeleton. Her face was terribly scarred and mutilated. All this was horrifying enough, but the mental picture of that sight which remains most vividly with me is the poor woman's eyes. They were wide open, and seemed to be staring straight at me with a look of terror."   Possible victims:   Martha Tabram   On Tuesday 7th August, following a Monday bank holiday, prostitute Martha Tabram was murdered at about 2:30 a.m. Her body was found at George Yard Buildings, George Yard, Whitechapel, shortly before 5:00 a.m. She had been stabbed 39 times about her neck, torso, and genitals with a short blade. With one possible exception, a right-handed individual had inflicted all her wounds.   Based on statements from a fellow prostitute and PC Thomas Barrett, who was patrolling nearby, Inspector Reid put soldiers at the Tower of London and Wellington Barracks on an identification parade, but without positive results. Police did not connect Tabram's murder with the earlier murder of Emma Smith, but they did connect her death with later murders.   Most experts do not connect Tabram's murder with the others attributed to the Ripper because she had been repeatedly stabbed, whereas later victims typically suffered slash wounds and abdominal mutilations. However, investigators cannot rule out a connection.   Rose Mylett   On Thursday 20th December 1888, a patrolling constable found the strangled body of 26-year-old prostitute Rose Mylett in Clarke's Yard, off Poplar High Street. Mylett (born Catherine Millett and known as Drunken Lizzie Davis and Fair Alice Downey) had lodged at 18 George Street, as had Emma Smith.   Four doctors who examined Mylett's body thought she had been murdered, but Robert Anderson thought she had accidentally hanged herself on the collar of her dress while in a drunken stupor. At Anderson's request, Dr. Bond examined Mylett's body, agreeing with Anderson. Commissioner Monro also suspected it was a suicide or natural death as there were no signs of a struggle. The coroner, Wynne Baxter, told the inquest jury that "there is no evidence to show that death was the result of violence." Nevertheless, the jury returned a verdict of "wilful murder against some person or persons unknown," and the case was added to the Whitechapel file.   Alice McKenzie:   Alice McKenzie was possibly a prostitute and was murdered at about 12:40 a.m. on Wednesday 17th July 1889 in Castle Alley, Whitechapel. Like most of the previous murders, her left carotid artery was severed from left to right, and there were wounds on her abdomen. However, her injuries were not as deep as in previous murders, and the killer used a shorter blade. Commissioner Monro and one of the pathologists examining the body, Bond, believed this to be a Ripper murder. However, another of the pathologists, Phillips, and Robert Anderson, disagreed, as did Inspector Abberline. Later writers are also divided and either suggest that McKenzie was a Ripper victim or that the unknown murderer tried to make it look like a Ripper killing to deflect suspicion from himself. At the inquest, Coroner Baxter acknowledged both possibilities and concluded: "There is great similarity between this and the other class of cases, which have happened in this neighbourhood, and if the same person has not committed this crime, it is clearly an imitation of the other cases."   Pinchin Street torso:   A woman's torso was found at 5:15 a.m. on Tuesday 10th September 1889 under a railway arch in Pinchin Street, Whitechapel. Extensive bruising about the victim's back, hip, and arm indicated that the killer had severely beaten her shortly before her death, which occurred approximately one day before discovering her torso. The victim's abdomen was also extensively mutilated in a manner reminiscent of the Ripper, although her genitals had not been wounded. The dismembered sections of the body are believed to have been transported to the railway arch, hidden under an old chemise. The age of the victim was estimated at 30–40 years. Despite a search of the area, no other sections of her body were ever found, and neither the victim nor the culprit were ever identified.   Chief Inspector Swanson and Commissioner Monro noted that blood within the torso indicated that death was not from hemorrhage or cutting of the throat. The pathologists, however, pointed out that the general bloodlessness of the tissues and vessels told that bleeding was the cause of death. Newspaper speculation that the body belonged to Lydia Hart, who had disappeared, was refuted after she was found recovering in hospital after "a bit of a spree." Another claim that the victim was a missing girl called Emily Barker was also refuted, as the torso was from an older and taller woman.   Swanson did not consider this a Ripper case and instead suggested a link to the Thames Torso Murders in Rainham and Chelsea and the "Whitehall Mystery". Monro agreed with Swanson's assessment. These three murders and the Pinchin Street case are suggested to be the work of a serial killer, nicknamed the "Torso killer," who could either be the same person as "Jack the Ripper" or a separate killer of uncertain connection. Links between these and three further murders—the "Battersea Mystery" of 1873 and 1874, two women were found dismembered, and the 1884 "Tottenham Court Road Mystery"—have also been postulated. Experts on the murders—colloquially known as "Ripperologists"—such as Stewart Evans, Keith Skinner, Martin Fido, and Donald Rumbelow, discount any connection between the torso and Ripper killings based on their different modi operandi.   Monro was replaced as Commissioner by Sir Edward Bradford on 21st June 1890, after a disagreement with Home Secretary Henry Matthews over police pensions.   Frances Coles:   The last murders in the Whitechapel file were committed on Friday 13th February 1891, when prostitute Frances Coles was murdered under a railway arch in Swallow Gardens, Whitechapel. Her body was found only moments after the attack at 2:15 a.m. by PC Ernest Thompson, who later stated he heard retreating footsteps in the distance. As contemporary police practices dictated, Thompson remained at the scene.   Coles was lying beneath a passageway under a railway arch between Chamber Street and Royal Mint Street. She was still alive but died before medical help could arrive. Minor wounds on the back of her head suggest that she was thrown violently to the ground before her throat was cut at least twice, from left to right and then back again. Otherwise, there were no mutilations to the body, leading some to believe Thompson had disturbed her assailant. Superintendent Arnold and Inspector Reid arrived soon afterward from the nearby Leman Street police station, and Chief Inspectors Donald Swanson and Henry Moore, who had been involved in the previous murder investigations, arrived by 5 a.m.   A man named James Sadler, who had earlier been seen with Coles, was arrested by the police and charged with her murder. A high-profile investigation by Swanson and Moore into Sadler's history and his whereabouts at the previous Whitechapel murders indicates that the police may have suspected him of being the Ripper. However, Sadler was released on 3rd March for lack of evidence.   https://www.imdb.com/list/ls079111466/?sort=user_rating,desc&st_dt=&mode=detail&page=1&title_type=movie&ref_=ttls_ref_typ

Misterios
Informe Enigma T7x20: Jack el Destripador: El Mito Equivocado

Misterios

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 21, 2022 109:42


Sumario Informe Enigma Part.1 Dirige y Presenta: Jorge Ríos Escúchanos cada viernes de 23:00h a 01:00h en directo en Radio Platja d'Aro. Síguenos a través de nuestras redes sociales o contacta con nosotros en el siguiente correo electrónico: enigma-rpa@hotmail.com Contacto Yolanda Martínez: 647552954 Contacto StillNoufred Palamós: 629535811 Contacto Verde Limón Palamós: 609532867 Contacto Divina Luz: 639003704 1/ Los asesinatos perpetuados por Jack El Destripador en el East End de Londres (también conocidos como los asesinatos de Whitechapel) han permanecido como un enigma desde la época victoriana. Los misterios que rodean la identidad del infame asesino en serie de Londres se han vuelto tan complejos como los propios asesinatos, y tanto la policía de Londres, como personas de todo el mundo que se ha interesado en el caso siguen especulando sobre la verdadera identidad de este cruel homicida. Se cree que Jack El Destripador, estaba detrás de los asesinatos de Mary Ann Nichols, Annie Chapman, Elizabeth Stride, Catherine Eddowes y Mary Jane Kelly. Incluso, hay quienes creen que Jack el Destripador fue responsable de alrededor de once asesinatos diferentes ocurridos en la ciudad de Londres entre 1888 y 1891. Luego de entrevistar a alrededor de 2000 personas, investigar a 300, y detener a 80, la Policía de Londres nunca aclaró completamente sus dudas con respecto a la identidad real de el o los culpables detrás de estos siniestros asesinatos. A continuación, junto a Juan Carlos Boíza, autor de JACK EL DESTRIPADOR EL MITO EQUIVOCADO de Ediciones OBERON, descubriremos nuevas informaciones que nos harán darnos cuenta de la toda la información equivocada que hemos absorbido a lo largo de más de medio siglo.

Radio Platja d'aro, Informe Enigma
T7 x 20 Part.1 *Jack el Destripador: El Mito Equivocado*

Radio Platja d'aro, Informe Enigma

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 19, 2022 51:31


Sumario Informe Enigma Part.1 Dirige y Presenta: Jorge Ríos Escúchanos cada viernes de 23:00h a 01:00h en directo en Radio Platja d'Aro. Síguenos a través de nuestras redes sociales o contacta con nosotros en el siguiente correo electrónico: enigma-rpa@hotmail.com Contacto Yolanda Martínez: 647552954 Contacto StillNoufred Palamós: 629535811 Contacto Verde Limón Palamós: 609532867 Contacto Divina Luz: 639003704 1/ Los asesinatos perpetuados por Jack El Destripador en el East End de Londres (también conocidos como los asesinatos de Whitechapel) han permanecido como un enigma desde la época victoriana. Los misterios que rodean la identidad del infame asesino en serie de Londres se han vuelto tan complejos como los propios asesinatos, y tanto la policía de Londres, como personas de todo el mundo que se ha interesado en el caso siguen especulando sobre la verdadera identidad de este cruel homicida. Se cree que Jack El Destripador, estaba detrás de los asesinatos de Mary Ann Nichols, Annie Chapman, Elizabeth Stride, Catherine Eddowes y Mary Jane Kelly. Incluso, hay quienes creen que Jack el Destripador fue responsable de alrededor de once asesinatos diferentes ocurridos en la ciudad de Londres entre 1888 y 1891. Luego de entrevistar a alrededor de 2000 personas, investigar a 300, y detener a 80, la Policía de Londres nunca aclaró completamente sus dudas con respecto a la identidad real de el o los culpables detrás de estos siniestros asesinatos. A continuación, junto a Juan Carlos Boíza, autor de JACK EL DESTRIPADOR EL MITO EQUIVOCADO de Ediciones OBERON, descubriremos nuevas informaciones que nos harán darnos cuenta de la toda la información equivocada que hemos absorbido a lo largo de más de medio siglo.

Bizarre podcast
Jack The Ripper Part 2 , Leather Apron And Annie Chapman

Bizarre podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 18, 2022 18:11


Jack The Ripper Part 2 , Leather Apron And Annie Chapmanon todays episode I delve back our jack the ripper case , covering the murder of Annie Chapman the rippers 2nd victim and the suspect john pizer AKA Leather Apron and the racism towards the Jewish community in white chapel during jacks murder spree

Weird Darkness: Stories of the Paranormal, Supernatural, Legends, Lore, Mysterious, Macabre, Unsolved
“THE HAT MAN AND SHADOW PEOPLE” and More Strange and Terrifying True Stories! #WeirdDarkness

Weird Darkness: Stories of the Paranormal, Supernatural, Legends, Lore, Mysterious, Macabre, Unsolved

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 8, 2022 91:00


“THE HAT MAN AND SHADOW PEOPLE” and More Strange and Terrifying True Stories! #WeirdDarknessIN THIS EPISODE: (Dark Archives episode, originally posted June 20, 2017) Is there really such a thing as coincidence? One girl used to think so – but a strange paranormal experience has her now thinking there's no such thing as happenstance. (More Than a Coincidence) *** Is it possible that the real reason for the USA-Iraq war had nothing to do with weapons of mass destruction, and everything to do with the appropriation of other-worldly alien technology? (Saddam Hussein's Stargate) *** Weirdo family member Heather Circle brings us a terrifying story that starts, innocently enough, with her child's missing plastic drinking cup. (A Little Pink Sippy Cup) *** Rebecca Schaeffer was destined to be a star. But before she had the chance to make it in Hollywood, she was murdered by an obsessed fan. (Hollywood's Sweetheart Killed By a Stalker) *** With the internet's recent obsession with Black Eyed Kids encounters and “Shadow People” visitations, you might not notice another phenomena that's quickly becoming part of the paranormal pop-culture consciousness: The Hat Man. Reports of the strange “Hat Man”, a mysterious entity dressed in a long-brimmed hat, continue to pour in from all over the world. Who is the Hat Man? What does he want? Why have so many people around the world been visited by this strange entity? (The Hat Man And Shadow People) *** If you've ever seen the film “The Wicker Man”, you are familiar with the ending of the burning giant made of wood and the human sacrifice therein. But is it possible that this terrifying idea was not an invention of novelists and screenwriters – but was a very real practice at one time? Or even today? (The History Behind The Wicker Man) *** The life that serial killer Dennis Rader lived on the outside, hid his dark secret inside, which he was so desperate to reveal that he began dropping breadcrumbs to the media. (The Paper Trail of BTK) *** A graveyard is typically a quiet place, but Graceland Cemetery in Chicago seems to be a bit too quiet – which might have something to do with its resident ghosts. (The Deathly Silence of Graceland Cemetery) *** In 1888, London was terror-struck by the grotesque murders of Jack the Ripper, who was shortly about to claim his next-victim: 47-year-old prostitute Annie Chapman. Her dissection at the hands of the madman was nothing short of gruesome. (The Dissection of Annie Chapman) *** Annie Chapman likely got a good look at her killer. At the time, scientists thought they could user her corpse's eyeballs to identify the attacker. Is something like that possible? Could the last visual image of someone's life remain burned into the eye even after death? (The Last Thing a Corpse Sees)SOURCES AND ESSENTIAL WEB LINKS…“The Hat Man And Shadow People” by Greg Newkirk (http://bit.ly/36DLMwg) and Dana Matthews (http://bit.ly/33oEfiJ) for Week In Weird.“More Than a Coincidence” is by Cherubim and was posted at YourGhostStories: http://bit.ly/2JXuCQC “Saddam Hussein's Stargate” by Michael Moran for The Daily Star: http://bit.ly/2pNfVst “A Little Pink Sippy Cup” by Weirdo family member Heather Circle“Hollywood's Sweetheart Killed By a Stalker” by Natalie DeGroot from All That's Interesting: http://bit.ly/2NoBbh9 “Dark Annie” from Awesome Stories: http://bit.ly/33H5hlC “The Dissection of Annie Chapman” by Hannah McKennet for All That's Interesting: http://bit.ly/2p98hZb “The Last Thing a Corpse Sees” by Marissa Fessenden for the Smithsonian: (link no longer available) “The History Behind The Wicker Man” from Ancient Origins: http://bit.ly/2Kr38TR “The Paper Trail of BTK” by Rachel Chang for Biography: http://bit.ly/32zqpZL “The Deathly Silence of Graceland Cemetery” by Ursula Bielski for Chicago Hauntings: http://bit.ly/33G3Cgq Subscribe to the podcast by searching for Weird Darkness wherever you listen to podcasts – or use this RSS feed link: https://www.spreaker.com/show/3655291/episodes/feed.Weird Darkness theme by Alibi Music Library. Background music provided by Alibi Music, EpidemicSound and/or AudioBlocks with paid license. Music from Shadows Symphony (https://tinyurl.com/yyrv987t), Midnight Syndicate (http://amzn.to/2BYCoXZ), Kevin MacLeod (https://tinyurl.com/y2v7fgbu), Tony Longworth (https://tinyurl.com/y2nhnbt7), and/or Nicolas Gasparini/Myuu (https://tinyurl.com/lnqpfs8) is used with permission. 

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Outline of A Murder
Historic Cases: Jack the Ripper 2

Outline of A Murder

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 4, 2022 44:55


Everyone has heard of Jack the Ripper, one of the oldest unsolved cases in history. There are even Ripperologists that spend all of their spare time studying the case of the murders of disenfranchised women trying to secure a bit of food, a cot to sleep on, and feed their addiction to alcohol through sex work. But the case can't be reduced to what we think we know about the victims. Many of them were occasional sex workers. Others came from good families and even married well and had kids. None of them deserved what happened to them. Throats slit, disemboweled, and faces ruined. Polly Nichols. Annie Chapman. Elizabeth Stride. Catherine Eddowes. Mary Kelly who was so destroyed by the Ripper's work that her remains didn't seem human. And then as suddenly as the killings started, they stopped. Was the murders the work of a devoted and sophisticated killer or a crazed mental patient?

Outline of A Murder
Historic Cases: Jack the Ripper 1

Outline of A Murder

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 4, 2022 62:49


Everyone has heard of Jack the Ripper, one of the oldest unsolved cases in history. There are even Ripperologists that spend all of their spare time studying the case of the murders of disenfranchised women trying to secure a bit of food, a cot to sleep on, and feed their addiction to alcohol through sex work. But the case can't be reduced to what we think we know about the victims. Many of them were occasional sex workers. Others came from good families and even married well and had kids. None of them deserved what happened to them. Throats slit, disemboweled, and faces ruined. Polly Nichols. Annie Chapman. Elizabeth Stride. Catherine Eddowes. Mary Kelly who was so destroyed by the Ripper's work that her remains didn't seem human. And then as suddenly as the killings started, they stopped. Was the murders the work of a devoted and sophisticated killer or a crazed mental patient?

Outline of a murder podcast
Historic Cases: Jack the Ripper 1

Outline of a murder podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 4, 2022


Everyone has heard of Jack the Ripper, one of the oldest unsolved cases in history. There are even Ripperologists that spend all of their spare time studying the case of the murders of disenfranchised women trying to secure a bit of food, a cot to sleep on, and feed their addiction to alcohol through sex work. But the case can't be reduced to what we think we know about the victims. Many of them were occasional sex workers. Others came from good families and even married well and had kids. None of them deserved what happened to them. Throats slit, disemboweled, and faces ruined. Polly Nichols. Annie Chapman. Elizabeth Stride. Catherine Eddowes. Mary Kelly who was so destroyed by the Ripper's work that her remains didn't seem human. And then as suddenly as the killings started, they stopped. Was the murders the work of a devoted and sophisticated killer or a crazed mental patient? https://www.jack-the-ripper.orgDrink FundOutline of a Murder Website

Hightailing Through History
The Lives of the Five Women Killed by Jack the Ripper

Hightailing Through History

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 30, 2021 186:19


Welcome to Episode 15! We are rounding out our spooky month with the other side of the tale that many know so well about Jack the Ripper. While most people will be recounting the details and mystery of Jack the Ripper and his heinous crimes during this time of year, we are going to turn the spotlight on the women whose lives were taken. We are here to perpetuate the narrative that historian and author Hallie Rubenhold brings to light in her 2020 book The Five: The Untold Lives of the Women Killed by Jack the Ripper as well as her brand new podcast Bad Women: The Ripper Retold from Pushkin Industries. Polly Nichols, Annie Chapman, Elisabeth Stride, Catherine Eddowes and Mary Jane Kelly are considered the 5 canonical (generally accepted) victims of the Victorian England serial killer dubbed "Jack the Ripper." While the mystery of the case is very interesting, to many at least, the women at the center of the mystery were human beings first and foremost. They were wives, mothers, daughters, sisters, friends. We hope you enjoy this (extra long!) special episode to finish out spooky month! **We are in no way affiliated with Ms. Rubenhold, her publisher or Pushkin Industries. We just love the work she is doing and wanted to help tell the stories of these women** *~*~*~*~*~*~ At the top of tonight's episode, we included a content and trigger warning as running themes through each of these stories include domestic abuse, sexual assault, suicide and predominately, alcohol abuse. Listener discretion is advised. Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA)'s National Helpline is a free, confidential, 24/7, 365-day-a-year treatment referral and information service (in English and Spanish) for individuals and families facing mental and/or substance use disorders. 1-800-662-HELP (4357) or TTY 1-800-487-4889 The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline is a national network of local crisis centers that provides free and confidential emotional support to people in suicidal crisis or emotional distress 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. If you or someone you know is in crisis, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-TALK (8255), or text the Crisis Text Line (text HELLO to 741741). Both services are free. *~*~*~*~*~*~ The Socials! Email -- hightailinghistorypod@gmail.com Instagram -- @hightailinghistory Facebook -- Hightailing Through History or with user name @hightailinghistory *~*~*~*~*~*~ Source Materials: English-hertiage.org editors. “An Introduction to Victorian England.” English Heritage, https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/learn/story-of-england/victorian/. Geraghty, Liam. “The Vagrancy Act: Everything You Need To Know.” The Big Issue, 20 Oct. 2021, https://www.bigissue.com/news/housing/what-is-the-vagrancy-act/. “Jack the Ripper - Victims.” Edited by Stephen P Ryder, Casebook, 1996, https://www.casebook.org/victims/. Rubenhold, Hallie, host and creator. “Bad Women: The Ripper Retold.” Season 1, Episodes 1-6 from Pushkin Industries. https://www.pushkin.fm/show/bad-women/ Rubenhold, Hallie. The Five: The Untold Lives of the Women Killed by Jack the Ripper. Black Swan, 2020. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/laurel-rockall/message

Hightailing Through History
The Lives of the Five Women Killed by Jack the Ripper

Hightailing Through History

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 30, 2021 186:19


Welcome to Episode 15! We are rounding out our spooky month with the other side of the tale that many know so well about Jack the Ripper. While most people will be recounting the details and mystery of Jack the Ripper and his heinous crimes during this time of year, we are going to turn the spotlight on the women whose lives were taken. We are here to perpetuate the narrative that historian and author Hallie Rubenhold brings to light in her 2020 book The Five: The Untold Lives of the Women Killed by Jack the Ripper as well as her brand new podcast Bad Women: The Ripper Retold from Pushkin Industries. Polly Nichols, Annie Chapman, Elisabeth Stride, Catherine Eddowes and Mary Jane Kelly are considered the 5 canonical (generally accepted) victims of the Victorian England serial killer dubbed "Jack the Ripper." While the mystery of the case is very interesting, to many at least, the women at the center of the mystery were human beings first and foremost. They were wives, mothers, daughters, sisters, friends. We hope you enjoy this (extra long!) special episode to finish out spooky month! **We are in no way affiliated with Ms. Rubenhold, her publisher or Pushkin Industries. We just love the work she is doing and wanted to help tell the stories of these women** *~*~*~*~*~*~ At the top of tonight's episode, we included a content and trigger warning as running themes through each of these stories include domestic abuse, sexual assault, suicide and predominately, alcohol abuse. Listener discretion is advised. Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA)'s National Helpline is a free, confidential, 24/7, 365-day-a-year treatment referral and information service (in English and Spanish) for individuals and families facing mental and/or substance use disorders. 1-800-662-HELP (4357) or TTY 1-800-487-4889 The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline is a national network of local crisis centers that provides free and confidential emotional support to people in suicidal crisis or emotional distress 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. If you or someone you know is in crisis, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-TALK (8255), or text the Crisis Text Line (text HELLO to 741741). Both services are free. *~*~*~*~*~*~ The Socials! Email -- hightailinghistorypod@gmail.com Instagram -- @hightailinghistory Facebook -- Hightailing Through History or with user name @hightailinghistory *~*~*~*~*~*~ Source Materials: English-hertiage.org editors. “An Introduction to Victorian England.” English Heritage, https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/learn/story-of-england/victorian/. Geraghty, Liam. “The Vagrancy Act: Everything You Need To Know.” The Big Issue, 20 Oct. 2021, https://www.bigissue.com/news/housing/what-is-the-vagrancy-act/. “Jack the Ripper - Victims.” Edited by Stephen P Ryder, Casebook, 1996, https://www.casebook.org/victims/. Rubenhold, Hallie, host and creator. “Bad Women: The Ripper Retold.” Season 1, Episodes 1-6 from Pushkin Industries. https://www.pushkin.fm/show/bad-women/ Rubenhold, Hallie. The Five: The Untold Lives of the Women Killed by Jack the Ripper. Black Swan, 2020. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/laurel-rockall/message

Canónicas
Capítulo 2: Dark Annie

Canónicas

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 19, 2021 29:59


Carruajes, palacetes y hasta Buckingham Palace. En ambientes como aquellos se crió Annie Chapman, cuyo descenso a los infiernos fue lento y doloroso. Con ella recorremos el Londres más lujoso, conocemos a la clase media y entendemos uno de los grandes males de la sociedad victoriana: el alcoholismo.

We Would Be Dead
Left To Right (Jack The Ripper, Part 1)

We Would Be Dead

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 24, 2021 88:24


In 1888, in the Whitechapel district of London, a strange and awful thing began to happen. Women began turning up dead and graphically mutilated right out in the open air. It wasn't long before these horrific murders were all linked to the same unknown man, a man in dark coat and a hat, a man who targeted female sex workers who were down on their luck, a man who would come to be known as, Jack The Ripper. This is it fiends, the granddaddy of all true crime cases and we are diving deep, but not just into "Jack", into the women who's lives he tragically cut short. This week, in our first installment, we'll talk about what it was like to live in Whitechapel in 1888, how the killings began and the lives and terrible deaths of Emma Elizabeth Smith, Martha Tabram, Mary Ann Nichols and Annie Chapman. Next week we'll cover the remaining victims, evidence and the investigations, and in week three we have a special guest to break down suspects and theories. A real live forensic scientist will be joining us to help sort through which theories have weight and which we can discount, and give us his expert opinion on who exactly "Jack the Ripper" was. Link to an Instagram account at which he is active contributor, "The Corpse Review" below!   https://www.instagram.com/thecorpsereview/   Click to Learn More     WWBD Merch Buy your WWBD swag here!  Join the Conversation       

Woman's Hour
Child marriage, Jack the Ripper's victims

Woman's Hour

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 26, 2019 49:24


According to the children's charity World Vision, nine percent of girls in Afghanistan are married before the age of 15. Jane speaks to Helen Clark, former Prime Minister of New Zealand who's been working with this charity to tackle this issue. She recently came back from Afghanistan where she spent time with the families affected by this. She also shares her views on the recent mosque attacks.Hallie Rubenhold's new book focuses on the lives of Mary Jane Kelly, Polly Nichols, Annie Chapman, Elizabeth Stride and Catherine Eddowes. ‘The Five' is about the women who were murdered by Jack the Ripper, and not about him.Also on the programme, Jane speaks to Judy Kuhn,the voice of Disney's 1995 classic Pocahontas. She's also a four time Tony Award nominated Broadway star who is currently performing on the West End stage playing the part of Golde in latest revival of Fiddler on the Roof at the Playhouse Theatre. Jane finds out how the much loved musical mimics Judy's own family history.Producer: Sej Asar