Podcast appearances and mentions of carol carol

Our month-long tribute to actor Jimmy Stewart on radio features a funny 1948 episode of Philco Radio Time, hosted by Bing Crosby. The Bing Crosby Show was primarily focused on popular songs sung by Crosby in the first half, and depending on Bing's guest, the second half generally was devoted to comedy (written by Carol Carol). Stewart appeared many times on this program, and even hosted the show in the absence of Bing in an episode. We featured three of Stewart's appearances two years ago, after Jimmy was married. Today we're going back to Jimmy's first appearance on the program during his bachelor days, with lots of jokes here on Stewart's popular bashful persona. Visit our website: https://goodolddaysofradio.com/ Subscribe to our Facebook Group for news, discussions, and the latest podcast: https://www.facebook.com/groups/881779245938297 Our theme music is "Why Am I So Romantic?" from Animal Crackers: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KHJKAKS/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_MK8MVCY4DVBAM8ZK39WD

【 布姐給你問】企劃： 表單這裡填：https://forms.gle/bAsUKbejmnbduF3Q7 本集重點： 當初為何選擇經營 podcast，並且是如何開始的？ 在邀約嘉賓上遇到哪些挑戰？是如何克服的？ 在 podcast 經營過程中，有哪些挫折與學習？ 如何看待自己 podcast 節目中對流量的期望與壓力？ 在經營節目後，對未來的計畫和個人成長的期待是什麼？ 中年轉型與自我探索：Carol 分享了她在中年面臨失業後，決定探索自身興趣與熱情，最終發現自己熱愛分享與啟發他人，並開始經營 podcast，這成為她尋找自我的新旅程。 不斷嘗試與試錯：Carol 在找到 podcast 前，曾嘗試過電商和部落格寫作，雖然這些嘗試讓她發現不適合自己，但也一步步引導她走向適合的方向。 挑戰與克服困難：Carol 分享了她在邀請嘉賓時遇到的挫折，包括面對知名嘉賓拒絕邀約的情況，以及她如何調整自己的邀約策略，並最終成功邀請心儀的嘉賓上節目。 流量與初衷的掙扎：在經營 podcast 的過程中，Carol 一度因流量問題感到壓力，甚至懷疑是否能持續經營，但她透過調整心態，重新找回對內容的熱情與節目的初衷。 未來規劃與自我成長：Carol 計劃結合《萬繆卡》來賦能他人，並打算在 podcast 中加入新的元素，持續探索和成長。 來賓 Carol Chen 思考人生找自己Podcast 主理人

Baburu バブル 25 : 40 ans de TM NETWORK 08 : CAROL ~A DAY IN A GIRL'S LIFE 1991~ "CAROL ~A DAY IN A GIRL'S LIFE 1991~" est le sixième album de TM NetworkSorti chez Epic Sony le 9 décembre 1988Il a été enregistré de Juin 1988 à octobre 1988 Au Air Recording Studios et au Comforts Place de LondresProduit par Komuro Tetsuya, il atteint la 1ère place à l'Oricon et sera Double disque de Platine au Japon Carol à été vendu à plus d un million d exemplaires à ce jour, pour une durée totale de 62 minutes 01 Dans cet episode nous avons eu la chance d'interviewer Pernilla Dahlstrand @PDahlstrand qui a incarné Carol sur scène lors de la tournée entre 1988 et 1989.Nous la remercions grandement ainsi que son manager Shigeru Shiozawa @panichan qui a rendu cela possible. 00:50 A day in the girl's life (Live) 23:28 Carol Theme 2 version T-Mue-Needs 46:10「A Day In The Girl's Life (永遠の一瞬)」 50:24「Carol (Carol's Theme I)」 53:12「Chase In Labyrinth (闇のラビリンス)」 58:00「Gia Corm Fillippo Dia (Devil's Carnival)」 63:15「In The Forest (君の声が聞こえる)」 66:19「Carol (Carol's Theme II)」 70:20「Just One Victory (たったひとつの勝利)」 75:55「You're The Best」 78:20「Come On Everybody」 82:40「Winter Comes Around (冬の一日)」 85:45「Seven Days War (Four Pieces Band Mix)」 89:18「Beyond The Time (Expanded Version)」 94:40「Still Love Her (失われた風景)」 104:00 Interview Pernilla Dahlstrand 145:50 Pernilla Dahlstrand - Me and Carol 154:55 Come on Everybody 88 Final Megamix 165:55 Carol Theme 2 Live 183:17 TK-Trap - extraits Carol Suite 200:50 Just one victory Live Vous pouvez retrouver Baburu バブル sur le flux Constellation de Galaxie PopSur Xhttps://x.com/ChrisYukigami?t=snz8pVfX0H6VjRw1wcqa_g&s=09Sur BlueSkyhttps://bsky.app/profile/chrisyukigami.bsky.socialSur Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61554980745999Sur Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/chris.baburu?igsh=MTBscXp4dXAyd2plNA==sur TikTokhttps://www.tiktok.com/@baburu74?_t=8oIDBusTbWK&_r=1Et le vendredi soir à 21h sur @AnimixFranceanimag.net #TMNETWORK #FANKS #TM40th #Yonmaru #TMネットワーク #小室哲哉 #木根尚登 #宇都宮隆 #外海FANKS

Jesties welcome fellow Jestie, Carol - who joins the four goofballs for friendly banter and improvised sketch comedy - on the fly without a net, spiked with supportive and enhancing soundscapes.Where is Chris?  (Don't believe the rumor)Carol prefers the moniker, "Little C, " for the pod. She also likes Medium-D, regionally measured.Improv and discussion: Games at the County FairLet's get to know Carol - Carol has some interesting hobbies. Improv and discussion: Chickens , Doves and Pigeons. Improv and discussion: Bees go to the Bee StylistChris finally shows up - after finding his way to the correct recording location.Improv and discussion: T-Dog proclaims to be the funniest person on the planet.Improv and discussion: Eavesdropping on Cleveland and Carlie at Alex's house.Alex learns the word, "Untoward."What is Carol's other hobby? Improv and discussion: Cheesey friendsImprov and discussion: Carol's grandbaby is teethingChris tells us where he went, when he went out of town.Carol likes stars...and sh!tTron busts on pod.Secret Promo Word/Phrase - Say it to the Concession person and get a free snack or drink for our show!  Thank you for listening. LIke what you hear? Want to hear something more? Drop us a comment at team@jestimprov.com Let us know if you want us to mention you in our episode, we'll do our best to give you a shout-out.Visit us anytime at https://www.jestimprov.com to find out more about us in Ventura, CA - including when to drop-in for classes and shows!

In this compelling episode of Agents of Nonprofit, we dive into the intricacies of conflict management within nonprofit organizations with expert mediator Carol Bowser. Drawing from her rich background in mediation and conflict resolution, Carol shares insightful strategies and real-world experiences, emphasizing the unique challenges faced by mission-driven organizations. This episode offers nonprofit leaders invaluable guidance on addressing and preventing workplace conflicts, fostering a more cohesive and productive environment.Topics We Cover:How Carol Bowser's early involvement with a local nonprofit during law school sparked her passion for conflict resolutionThe different ways conflicts can surface across various nonprofit sectors, from healthcare to educationSymbolic significance of core values like trust and communication in managing conflictsRecognizing the signs of inefficiency and frustration caused by unresolved conflicts, and their impact on organizational performanceManaging Power DynamicsChallenges of transitioning from a startup mindset to a structured environment as nonprofits growThe potential and limitations of using AI to aid in conflict resolution, enhancing professional communication while maintaining the human touchTo Learn More and Connect with Carol:Carol on LinkedInConflict Management Strategies on LinkedInConflict Management Strategies WebsiteSupport the Show.

Carol Cooke was once told by a doctor that she would no longe live her life as she knew it after being diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis. Her condition, though, did not stop her from doing what she wanted to do, finding herself rowing then cycling in competitions.rThe results of her hard work and perseverance are impressive and inspirational for Boomers: 3x gold-medallist in the Paralympics and 9x world champion in cycling. Join me in this episode and learn why Carol is a Kickass Boomer!  [00:01 - 07:03] Opening Segment I introduce and welcome Carol Cooke The journey to becoming a world-class athlete  [07:04 - 17:40] Handling Multiple Sclerosis Here's why you should visit Melbourne, Australia  How Carol handled this condition that felt like “being hit by a bus” Carol talks about  this life-changing 5.8 seconds in a sport [17:41 - 27:55] From Rowing to Cycling  Carol talks about the time she almost gave up rowing When someone told her she's not a rower But another type of athlete Competing against men Carol shares her experience  [27:56 - 40:10] Boomers Can Play Sports  Carol talks about her experience in the 2016 Paralympics Age is just a number! Can Boomers be sporty? Listen to Carol Carol shares her experience in writing a book for the first time [40:11 - 50:40] A Boomer's Passion  Publishing is harder than writing Carol tells us why Why she wouldn't change her past if she has the chance  Finding your passion in your Boomer years  [50:41 - 59:05] Closing Segment  Carol talks about having the right mindset not just in sports How can the Boomer Nation connect with you?  Links below Final words   Tweetable Quotes: “Just try something new and it doesn't have to be sport-related.” - Carol Cooke “No matter what age we are, we can always push ourselves and we can always set new goals.” - Carol Cooke   Resources mentioned: Carol's book: Finding Your Inner Gold Andrew Jobling   Check out Carol's website to learn more about her work and schedule a meeting with her. Follow her on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and LinkedIn.  WATCH OUT for Carol's new book: The Force Within - from Police Officer to Paralympian   ----- BEE BOLD, NOT OLD.  LEAVE A REVIEW and join me on my journey to become and stay a Kickass Boomer! Visit http://kickassboomers.com/ to listen to the previous episodes. Also check us out on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and LinkedIn.   Email terry@kickassboomers.com and connect with me online and on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and LinkedIn.

Carol Cooke was once told by a doctor that she would no longe live her life as she knew it after being diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis. Her condition, though, did not stop her from doing what she wanted to do, finding herself rowing then cycling in competitions.rThe results of her hard work and perseverance are impressive and inspirational for Boomers: 3x gold-medallist in the Paralympics and 9x world champion in cycling. Join me in this episode and learn why Carol is a Kickass Boomer!  [00:01 - 07:03] Opening Segment I introduce and welcome Carol Cooke The journey to becoming a world-class athlete  [07:04 - 17:40] Handling Multiple Sclerosis Here's why you should visit Melbourne, Australia  How Carol handled this condition that felt like “being hit by a bus” Carol talks about  this life-changing 5.8 seconds in a sport [17:41 - 27:55] From Rowing to Cycling  Carol talks about the time she almost gave up rowing When someone told her she's not a rower But another type of athlete Competing against men Carol shares her experience  [27:56 - 40:10] Boomers Can Play Sports  Carol talks about her experience in the 2016 Paralympics Age is just a number! Can Boomers be sporty? Listen to Carol Carol shares her experience in writing a book for the first time [40:11 - 50:40] A Boomer's Passion  Publishing is harder than writing Carol tells us why Why she wouldn't change her past if she has the chance  Finding your passion in your Boomer years  [50:41 - 59:05] Closing Segment  Carol talks about having the right mindset not just in sports How can the Boomer Nation connect with you?  Links below Final words   Tweetable Quotes: “Just try something new and it doesn't have to be sport-related.” - Carol Cooke “No matter what age we are, we can always push ourselves and we can always set new goals.” - Carol Cooke   Resources mentioned: Carol's book: Finding Your Inner Gold Andrew Jobling   Check out Carol's website to learn more about her work and schedule a meeting with her. Follow her on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and LinkedIn.  WATCH OUT for Carol's new book: The Force Within - from Police Officer to Paralympian   ----- BEE BOLD, NOT OLD.  LEAVE A REVIEW and join me on my journey to become and stay a Kickass Boomer! Visit http://kickassboomers.com/ to listen to the previous episodes. Also check us out on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and LinkedIn.   Email terry@kickassboomers.com and connect with me online and on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and LinkedIn.

How do you approach teaching the topics of race and racism with your elementary students, especially if you are not a person of color? If you need additional support with this, this episode is for you!In this podcast episode, I interview Kristen Moffett, a 20 + year school counselor at the Walker School in Georgia. Kristen shares her experiences and insights on addressing race and racism with elementary students. Kristen collaborated with parents, administration, and colleagues to develop a curriculum focused on diversity, equity, inclusion, race, and racism. She discusses the significance of educators taking responsibility for learning and educating themselves about race and racism, rather than solely relying on individuals from diverse backgrounds to teach these topics.Kristen is also going to be one of our presenters at the 2023 Summer Counselor Conference. Be sure to grab your ticket here today!Topics Covered:Educators, regardless of their racial background, must educate themselves about race and racism and take responsibility for teaching these topics to students.The curriculum developed by Kristen and her team, consisting of five lessons on diversity, equity, inclusion, race, and racism.Using age-appropriate definitions and language when teaching about race and racismSimplifying complex concepts to ensure students comprehend and engage in meaningful discussions.The importance of collaborating with parents, administrators, and colleagues in addressing race-related topics effectively.Resources Mentioned:More Than Peach BookMore Than Peach ProjectSummer Counselor ConferenceFollow Kristen Moffett on TwitterConnect with Carol:Carol's websiteTPT storeLeave a review on Apple PodcastsMentioned in this episode:Perks Membership Join The Perks School Counseling Membership for K-8 Counselors and get your first month free: https://carol-miller-counseling-essentials.mykajabi.com/offers/6Nbbsohn/checkout?coupon_code=PODCAST Perks Membership

Carol Covino is the CEO of Covino Fitness and creator of Fit and Fierce, a program for women over 40 who want to gain lean muscle and balance their hormones naturally through nutrition and exercise. In our conversation, Carol explains why strength training is so crucial for longevity and shares her tips for creating an exercise routine at any age and fitness level. Carol originally started exploring weightlifting as a way to transform her body, but after being diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis in her early 50s, her perspective on exercise radically shifted. Instead of focusing on looking fit, Carol turned to strength training as a way to improve her quality of life as she ages. Carol describes how her intention and sense of presence impacted her approach to strength training. She highlights ways to achieve a balance of speed, power, residence, and endurance without spending hours in the gym. Carol also maps out exactly how to get started or advance your current strength training circuit. Listen in to learn more about the importance of strength training as we age. If you are enjoying these conversations, please subscribe and spread the love by leaving a review and sharing it with your friends.Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, TuneIn, or on your favorite podcast platform. Topics Covered: The root causes of Carol's autoimmune disease Challenges that Carol sees her clients in perimenopause and menopause facingWhy muscle is considered the ‘organ of longevity' What fast-twitch muscle fibers are and examples of how to train them Why Carol suggests beginners start out using weight machines at the gymCarol's recommendations for progressing your current weightlifting routine Resources Mentioned:My episode on the Forever Fit Podcast: How to Feel More Vitally You with Dana Frost Carol's Hormone Healthy Recipe guideDr Andy Galpin on Youtube Episode 66. Healthy Female Hormones with Janel AndersonConnect with Carol: Carol's WebsiteCarol's InstagramGet in Touch: My WebsiteInstagramSpecial offers: Download the Daily Vitality eBook at danafrost.com/daily-vitality/Credit:Podcast Production by the team at The Wave PodcastingMusic by Phoebe GreenlandPhotography by Amy Boyle PhotographyPodcast art by SimplyBe. Agency

Neste episódio fizemos uma confraternização com alguns apoiadores. Estiveram presentes: Flávia (@flaviabusnardo), Rodrigo (@tandaya72), Kiara (@_kiaramesquita), Carol (@Carol.running), Ana (@aqueiroz74), Juliana (@jucouzzi), Larissa (@lalalucenav), Josinira (@josinira) e Marina (@mamalachias). Neste bate-papo conhecemos um pouco de cada um, o início na corrida e como foi o ano 2022. Também falamos sobre expectativas para 2023 e como o podcast Ironias da Corrida se faz presente em suas rotinas de treino e/ou de vida. Muita coisa boa surgiu deste encontro! E que tal também ser nosso apoiador? Confere no apoia.se/ironiasdacorrida! Nos sigam no insta @ironiasdacorrida e compartilhem este episódio com seus amigos e grupos de corrida. Cupom Dobro (@soudobro): IRONIAS

Carol Montag brings “A Carol Christmas” to CSPS Hall, Dec. 15 at 7:00pm. Joining her for an evening of traditional and fresh Christmas arrangements, as well as some new compositions from the award-winning singer-songwriter. Joining Carol are musicians Cameron Sullenberger, Matt Butler, Greg Kanz, plus a surprise guest! Tickets at www.cspshall.org/a-carol-christmas. Subscribe to The Culture … Continue reading The post Culture Crawl 779 “Not Christmas Carol, Carol Christmas” appeared first on Jazz 88.3 KCCK.

If you're a trades pro in the Ohio area, you've likely worked with licensure legend Carol Ross and the top-notch organization she leads – the Ohio Construction Industry Licensing Board (OCILB). However, if you're not familiar with Carol, we guarantee you can learn a little something from her during this episode. She's a seasoned and passionate leader who continues to serve as strong voice in the trades community, continuously advocating for superior safety, regulation and education among commercial contractors. Carol is known for her dedication to helping others and setting them up for success in the trade they love. In this episode, she provides an insightful outlook on the commercial contracting industry, the value of obtaining a license (and exactly how to do it!) Connect with Carol: Carol.Ross@com.state.oh.us Related Resources: https://com.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/com/divisions-and-programs/industrial-compliance/boards/ohio-construction-industry-licensing-board (Ohio Construction Industry Licensing Board Website)  Questions or Feedback:  thefix@oatey.com

su·per·ca·li·fra·gil·is·tic·ex·pi·a·li·do·cious - Backwards!!!! Maybe the best part of Carol Stein? Every set is different! After many years performing as the resident musician for the incredibly talented improv troupe at The Comedy Warehouse on Pleasure Island at Walt Disney World in Florida; Carol Stein presently entertains at the United Kingdom Pavilion in EPCOT at Walt Disney World in Orlando, Florida This performance was captured during the 2022 Epcot International Festival of the arts. https://youtu.be/RuAtSbXRP0U  

After many years performing as the resident musician for the incredibly talented improv troupe at The Comedy Warehouse on Pleasure Island at Walt Disney World in Florida; Carol Stein presently entertains at the United Kingdom Pavilion in EPCOT at Walt Disney World in Orlando, Florida This performance was captured during the 2022 Epcot International Festival of the arts. https://youtu.be/j_lGXhsO4S4

We're watching 25 of the best Christmas movies that we haven't seen, according to the internet and this time it's the Cate Blanchett, Rooney Mara 2015 drama CAROL _________________ CAROL (2015) synopsis from Rotten Tomatoes: Therese Belivet (Rooney Mara) spots the beautiful, elegant Carol (Cate Blanchett) perusing the doll displays in a 1950s Manhattan department store. The two women develop a fast bond that becomes a love with complicated consequences. _________________ The movies we're going to watch, probably (in no particular order) (and one of them won't make the cut because we added 8=Bit Christmas) MIRACLE ON 34TH STREET (1947) THE PREACHER'S WIFE (1996) BEST MAN HOLIDAY (2013) JOYEUX NOËL ("Merry Christmas") (2005) CHRISTMAS IN CONNECTICUT (1945) WHITE REINDEER (2013) A CHRISTMAS TALE (2008) COMFORT AND JOY (1984) LITTLE WOMEN (2019) MARCH OF THE WOODEN SOLDIERS (1934) TANGERINE (2015) Movies watched so far (in a particular order) WHILE YOU WERE SLEEPING (1995) DR. SEUSS' THE GRINCH (2018) HOLIDAY INN (1942) LET IT SNOW (2019) BAD SANTA (2003) LITTLE WOMEN (1994) THE SHOP AROUND THE CORNER (1940) MICKEY'S CHRISTMAS CAROL (1983) THE BISHOP'S WIFE (1947) SCROOGED (1988) 8-BIT CHRISTMAS (2021) WHITE CHRISTMAS (1954) ANNA AND THE APOCALYPSE (2017) CAROL (2015)

Intro: buzzsaws and clean slates, rage, Where the Wild Things AreLet Me Run This By You: MoneyInterview: We talk to Carole Schweid about Juilliard, Phoebe Brand, John Lehne, Michael Brand, Midnight Cowboy, musical comedy performance, open dance calls, starring in the original cast of A Chorus Line, Bob Fosse, Pat Birch, Martha Graham, Minnie's Boys, Mervyn Nelson, playing Fastrada in the first national tour of Pippin, being a lone wolf in theatre, Lewis J. Stadlen, doing West Side Story at Bucks County Playhouse, Shelly Winters, Mary Hinkson, Nellie Forbush in South Pacific, playing Tzeitel in Fiddler on the Roof, Peppermint Lounge, Nick Dante, Michael Bennett, Marvin Hamlisch, Public Theater, Gerry Schoenfeld, The Shubert, the wish for a job vs. the real experience of working, Theda Bara & The Frontier Rabbi, Agnes de Mille, Play With Your Food, Staged Reading Magic, Albert Hague.FULL TRANSCRIPT (unedited):2 (10s):And I'm Gina Pulice.1 (11s):We went to theater school together. We survived it, but we didn't quite understand it. 20 years later,2 (16s):We're digging deep talking to our guests about their experiences and trying to make sense1 (20s):If at all we survived theater school and you will too. Are we famous yet? As more space is actually a huge thing.2 (36s):Yeah. I have to apologize for the sound of buzz saws. What is going to be going the whole time I'm talking, doing well, you1 (50s):Took some trees down, right.2 (53s):You know, that's how it started. Yeah. It started with actually, you know, it all was a surprise to me, basically one we've been talking about taking down all the trees in the front of our house. And one day Aaron said, they're coming tomorrow to take down the trees. And I'm like, how much did that cost? Because you know, taking down trees is usually really expensive. And so he says, well, he's going to do everything in the front for whatever. It was $5,000.1 (1m 22s):Yeah. She was pretty good for more than one tree. Cause one tree we had removed was $5,000 at my mom's.2 (1m 28s):Well, and it's not like they have to extract the whole tree. It's just, you know, just chopping it down. Like it's not, I don't know if it's different when they have to take out the, yeah,1 (1m 38s):I think it is when they have to take the stump out the roots and all that.2 (1m 43s):So that was fine. Although I did think to myself, Hmm. We have $5,000 to spend and this is what we're spending it on.1 (1m 54s):I've been there. Oh, I've been there2 (1m 56s):So the morning, but I'm letting it go. And so the morning comes and he tells me to go outside so we can talk about the trees and, and, and I, anyway, we, we designate some trees and they're all in the lower part of the front of our house.1 (2m 10s):Yes. You, and by the way, for people that don't know, like you have a lot of land for, for, for, for not being in the super super country, you have a lot of courage. I mean, you got a lot of trees.2 (2m 21s):Well, yeah, we have an acre and it's a lot of trees and it's a lot of junk trees. What they call junk trees. Because the idea here is once upon a time, when everybody got their heat from wood, you had to have fast growing trees. So it's these skinny trees. Yeah. Anyway, so I thought we were sort of on the same page about what we were going down. This is where I'm getting with this. And I had a couple of meetings yesterday and I was hearing the sound pretty close, but it wasn't until I looked outside that I saw, they took everything out.2 (3m 1s):The, every living thing out in the, in the front, in front of our house, including the only tree I was really attached to was I have a beautiful lilac tree.1 (3m 14s):Okay. Oh shit. And everything out.2 (3m 21s):What's that? Why they1 (3m 22s):Take everything out? Is that the plant? I think,2 (3m 25s):I think what happened was for the first couple of days, the boss was here. And then I think yesterday, the boss was like, you guys just go and finish up. And I don't know that anyway, you know what, I'm just choosing it to be, I'm choosing to look at it like, okay, well we're getting to start over and it can be exactly how we want it to be. So yeah,1 (3m 45s):That is a great attitude because there's nothing you can do you really do about it? Absolutely. Zero. You can do about threes coming out.2 (3m 53s):The only bummer is that it sounds like buzz saws all day at my house and at my neighbor's house, I'm sure they're annoyed with us too. Well,1 (4m 2s):What are you going to put? It is. Okay. So, so, okay. The good, that's the sort of wonky news, but what the good news is, what are you going to put in? Like, is there going to be a whole new,2 (4m 12s):I think it's just going to GRA, I mean, I think it's just going to be grass, which is fine. I mean, my thing was actually, it does a little bit of a metaphor because when we first moved here, we loved how quiet and private and everything is. And part of why everything feels very private at our house is there's trees and bushes blocking our view of anything. I mean, all we can see is trees and bushes when we're laying on the front, which for a while seemed cozy. And then it started to seem like annoying that we could never see. And actually there's kind of a really beautiful view of the mountains behind us. So our mountains Hills.1 (4m 51s):Yeah. But I mean, small mountains, like small2 (4m 53s):Mountains. Yeah. So I realized that it does coincide with our psychological spelunking and trying to just be like more open about everything. Like totally. You know what I mean? Like this is just be open to people seeing our house. This is open to seeing out and let's have, and actually my kids were kind of like, oh, but it's just also open and we don't have any privacy. And I'm like, yeah, well you have your room and bathroom. I mean, there's, there's places to go if you don't want people to, to see you, but let's just be open.1 (5m 31s):There's like a whole, yeah. It's a great metaphor for being visible. Like I am all about lately. I have found a lot of comfort and refuge in the truth of the matter, even if it's not pretty, even if I don't actually like it. So like getting the facts of the matter and also sharing the, of the matter without a judgment. So I appreciate this, like wanting to be seen and then letting go of what people make of that, whether your house is this way or that way, or the neighbors think this or that, I'm also the, I I'm all about it.1 (6m 15s):I'm like, you know, this is, there's something about transparency. That's very comforting for me. It's also scary because people don't like it when they can see, or they can say whatever they want, but the hiding, I think I'm pretty convinced hiding from myself and from others leads to trouble.2 (6m 37s):It leads to trouble. And any time you're having to kind of keep track of what you're, you know, being open about and what you're not, and what you've said, you know, it just it's like it's T it's listen. If I only have a certain amount of real estate in my mind, I really don't want to allocate any of it too. Right. Hiding something and trying to remember. Right.1 (7m 1s):And it's interesting, the more that we do this podcast, the more I see that, like, you know what I thought gene, I thought when we're dead, this podcast is going to remain. And then our children's children's children. I mean, I don't have kids, but my nieces and nephew and your children's children's children will have a record of this. And, and I'd rather it be a record of the truth, the truth and transparency, then some show about pretending. So I think it's going to be good for them to be able to look back and be like, for me, it's like the, my crazy aunt, like, what was she doing? And what did she think? And, and, oh my God, it's a record of the times too.1 (7m 43s):Yeah.2 (7m 43s):I think about that kind of a lot. And I think about, of course I say all this and my kids are probably like going to be, have no interests unless the, until they get to a certain age, I mean, I'll put it to you this way. If I could listen to a podcast of my mother in her, you know, in the time that I don't really the time of life, certainly before I was born, but in my life where I still didn't see her as a person until, you know, I'd love to just things like what her voice sounded like then, and that kind of thing. I mean, it's interesting.1 (8m 16s):I have nothing of my mom, like we have a very few, it was interesting because we didn't, you know, we, there was not a lot of video of my mother and today's actually the 10th anniversary of her passing.2 (8m 28s):Oh, wow. Wow. That's hard.1 (8m 31s):It is hard. You know, it is hard. And I'm working through, I started therapy with a new therapist, like a regular LCSW lady. Who's not because my last guy was an Orthodox Jewish man who wanted me to have children. Like it was a whole new, I just got involved in all the Shannon Diego's of like weirdness. I attracted that weirdest and whatever. So this lady is like a legit, you know, therapist. And they only bummer is, and I totally understand she's on zoom, but like, I I'm so sick of like, I would love to be in a room with a therapist, but I get it. She's in, she's an older lady, which is also great. I was so sick of having like 28 year old therapists.1 (9m 13s):Yeah,2 (9m 13s):Yeah, yeah. For sure.1 (9m 16s):I don't even seem right. Unless clients are like, you know, fit seven to 17. So anyway, so, but all this to say about my mom, I was thinking about it and I think what's harder than right. My mom's death right now is that there's I just, you know, and this is something I wanted to bring up with you is just like, I have a lot of rage that's coming up lately about my childhood and we weren't allowed to feel rage. And my mom was the only one allowed to feel rage. And so this rage mixed with perimenopause slash menopause. I mean, like I still get a period, but like, it's, it's a matter of time before that's over.1 (9m 58s):So, but the rage, so I guess, right. I get, you know, people like to talk about rage as some or anger as something we need to process and we need to do this and that, but the truth of the matter is since we're being transparent, like rage can be really scary. Like sometimes the rage, I feel, it's not like I'm going to do anything. Why wonky? I hope, but it's more like a, I don't know what to do with it. That is my, and I was talking in therapy about that. Like, I'm not actually sure. Practically when the feelings come up, what to do with rage. And I feel like it speaks to in our culture of like, we're all about now, this sort of like, we talk about this fake positivity and shit like that.1 (10m 41s):And also like embracing all your feelings, but there's not really practical things that we learn what to do when you feel like you're going to take your laptop and literally take it and throw it across the room and then go to jail. Like you, you. So I have to like look up things on the internet with literally like what to do with my rage.2 (11m 1s):I think that's why that's part of my attraction to reality. Television shows is a, is a performance of rage. That's that I wouldn't do just because I don't think I could tolerate the consequences. I mean, an upwards interpretation is, oh, it's not my value, but it's really just like, I don't think I can manage the content of the consequences. I'm totally at having all these blown up1 (11m 30s):And people mad at me and legal consequences. I can't,2 (11m 35s):It's something very gratifying about watching people just give in to all of their rage impulses and it's yeah. I, it it's, it may be particularly true for women, but I think it's really just true for everybody that there's very few rage outlets, although I guess actually maybe sports. Well, when it turns, when it turns sideways, then that's also not acceptable.1 (12m 3s):Yeah. I mean, and maybe that's why I love all this true crime is like, these people act out their rage, but like lately to be honest, the true crime hasn't been doing it for me. It's interesting. That is interesting. Yeah. It's sort of like, well, I've watched so much of it that like now I'm watching stuff in different languages, true crime. And I'll start again. No, no, just stories. I haven't all been the only stories that I haven't heard really, really are the ones from other countries now. So I'm watching like, like true crime in new, in Delhi.2 (12m 42s):Do you need your fix? I actually was listening to some podcasts that I listened to. There's always an ad and it's exactly about this. It's like, we love true crime, but we've heard every story we know about every grisly murder, you know, detail. And it was touting itself as a podcast of, for next time I listened to it. I'll note the name of it so I can share it with you. You know, about this crimes. You haven't heard about1 (13m 9s):T the thing is a lot of them now, because I'm becoming more of a kind of sewer. Like a lot of it is just shittily made. So like the, the they're subtitled and dubbed in India, like India. So you've got like the, the they're speaking another language and then they're and if they don't match, so then I'm like, well, who's right. Like, is it the dubbing that's right. Or the subtitles that are right. And, and actually the words matter because I'm a writer. So it was like one anyway, it's poorly done is what I'm saying in my mind. And so it sort of scraped scraping the bottom of the barrel. It's like deli 9 1 1. I swear to God. That's what it, and, and it's, and also it's, it's horrifying because the, you know, the legal systems everywhere fucked, but India has quite a system.2 (13m 57s):I think that to the rage, like, tell me more about what comes up for you with rage and where you,1 (14m 6s):Yeah. Okay. So some of it is physiological, like where I feel literally like, and I think this is what my doctor's talking about. The menopause symptoms. I literally feel like a gnashing, my teeth. Like, I feel a tenseness in my jaw. Like, that's literally that. And she's like, that could also be your heart medication. So talk to your heart doctor. I mean, we're checking out all the things, but like, but it's tension. That's what it really feels like in my body is like tight tension where I feel earth like that. If I had to put a sound effect to it, it's like, ah, so I, I feel that is the first symptom of my rage. And then I feel like, and, and I say out loud, sometimes I hate my life.1 (14m 54s):That's what I say. And that is something I have never allowed myself to say before. Like I, I think unconsciously, I always told myself, like, you just, you have to be grateful and you know, those are the messages we receive, but sometimes life just fucking sucks. And sometimes my life, I just, I just can't stand. And, and in moments, you know, I never loved myself. So it's mostly a physical symptom followed by this is intolerable, what someone is doing. Sometimes my dog or my husband, but even, even if the coworking space, you know, like the lady was talking too loud and I was like, oh my God, this is intolerable.1 (15m 34s):She has to shut up. So agitation, that's what it is. And, and then it passes when I, if I, if I can say, oh my gosh, I am so fricking in Rouge right now. Then it passes.2 (15m 52s):Yeah. Well, it, it kind of sounds like from, from you and probably for most people, the only real option is to turn it in on yourself, you know, like you're not going to put it elsewhere. So you've, you know, you have, which is, so I guess maybe it's okay if you turn it on yourself, if you're doing, if you're working, if you're doing it with acceptance, which is the thing I'm gathering from you, as opposed to stewing and festering. And1 (16m 21s):I mean, it becomes, it's interesting. Yes, it is. So it's like, so red, hot, and so sudden, almost that the only thing I can do is say, okay, this is actually happening. Like, I can't pretend this isn't happening. I, it I'm like physically clenching my fists. And then I, yeah, there is a level of acceptance. I don't get panicked anymore. Now that I, that something is wrong. I just say, oh, this is rage. I name it. I'm like, I feel enraged and white, hot rage, and then it, and then it, and then I say, that's what this is.1 (17m 3s):I don't know why. I don't know where it's coming from. Right. In this moment. It's not proportionate to the lady, like literally talking on the phone at my coworking space that she's not shouting. So it's not that. And I don't want to miss that. I'm not like I can't fool myself to think that it's really, that lady's problem. That I feel like throwing my laptop at her head. And then, and then it passes. But, but, but it is, it is more and more. And, and I think a lot of it, not a lot of it, but you know, my doctor really does think that it's, it's hormonal. A lot of it just doesn't help the matter. I mean, it's not like, oh, great. It's hormonal. Everything's fine. But it, it does help to make me feel a little less bonkers.2 (17m 45s):Maybe you should have like a, a whole rage. Like what, like a rate. Well, first I was thinking you should have a range outfit. Like, oh, for me, if I, I noticed I pee in the winter anyway, I pick like my meanest boots and my leather jacket. When I'm feeling, you know, maybe say maybe kind of a rage outfit, when did Pierce?1 (18m 9s):No, I, I scratched myself in my sleep. Oh no, it's okay. It happens all the time. I do it in my sleep. It's a thing that it's like a little skin tag that I need to get removed. It's2 (18m 23s):So you could have a rage outfit and then you could have a rage playlist, And then you might even have like rage props. I'm just trying to think about a way that your ma you, you could write because if, if how you process something is artistically creatively, then maybe you needed a creative outlet that's specifically for, for race.1 (18m 48s):Yeah. And you know, the, I, I love that. And now I'm thinking about like, as a kid, we, because we, anger was so off limits to us. I used to violently chew gum. Like I would chew on the gum. That was a way, and my mom did the same thing, even though she also got her rage out, but it was like, you know, when people violently chew on their gum, like that was a way I could get my aggression out. That's so sad that that's like the only way.2 (19m 16s):Well, I mean, you find it wherever you can find me. It's like water looking for whatever that expression is, right? Yeah. Huh. Well, I have to get more in touch with my rage because I I'm told that I seem angry a lot.1 (19m 33s):You do.2 (19m 35s):I, I do get told that, but, but that sucks for me because I feel like I'm not expressing my anger and I'm, but I'm not. So I'm not, and I'm being seen as angry at certain times. So that means I didn't even get the benefit of like letting out the anger that somebody is.1 (19m 56s):Right. You didn't even get to act out the anger. It's like, yeah. So for me, miles tells me that all the time, like, he's like, you seem really in couples therapy. Also, I have to admit yesterday was a big day. We had couples therapy on zoom. Then I had individual therapy. And in between I had all kinds of like, just stuff happening. So, but yeah, I'm told I a miles is like, you seem so angry and he's not wrong. And, and we take it out on the people that we live in a two by four apartment with. So I also feel like this office space is helping with that, but yeah, I dunno, I'm going to have to keep exploring my, my rage and that's what it is.1 (20m 37s):And also it is like, I am the character in where the wild things are that kid, that is what I feel like. And it feels it's like the perfect cause he wants to gnash his teeth and, and he does, and a thrash, thrash, thrashing mash, or the words 2 (21m 6s):Let me run this by you that I wanted to do when we're going to talk to Molly that we didn't get to do. And it was based on made, you know, and just about money and, and wondering like what your relationship is right now with money. And also, but when were you at your lowest with money? What do you remember as being your lowest moment? Sure, sure. With money with money.1 (21m 40s):Okay. I have moments of what first comes to mind was when right. I was at DePaul. So it's an apropos in college and there was obviously a sense. I had a sense of lack, always, even though based on whatever, but it was phone. Somehow my accounts were always negative, right? Like, and I would call the number, the banking number, incessantly to check, and it would always be negative. So I have this panic thoughts about that. Like being a time of like, and that's not the only time that happened like that.1 (22m 23s):Where, what is the feeling? The feeling was that, and this was in college where it started to happen, where I felt like there's never enough. No, one's going to help me. I'm irresponsible with money. Was the message I told myself and I probably was, I was in college, but I can't handle money. And literally that, that panic was also, I mean, it was true. I had no money, but my parents would have backed me, probably helped me out, but I was too scared to ask for help. So that's like, that's when, when you asked that question, that's where I go.1 (23m 4s):But, but that's also a college kind of me. So like in terms of an adult, me, that's a really great, great question. My lowest, I don't know. What about you?2 (23m 22s):Well, I've got a lot of Loma Loehmann's moments with money when I was in high school. The thing was, I lost my wallet all the time.1 (23m 35s):Oh, I remember this. I remember you talking about,2 (23m 38s):Yeah, that'd be still lose stuff all the time. That actually started at a young age with, you know, my mom would, she, my mom was really into jewelry and she would buy me destroyed. And there's nothing wrong with the fact that she brought me jewelry, but I lost it. You know, she buy me nice gold jewelry1 (23m 59s):Because she likes nice things. That's right. Yeah.2 (24m 4s):In college it was pretty bad. And the first time it was pretty bad. I had to move back in with my mom because I couldn't afford rent. And then the second time I just, I re I really, if I had more bravery, I probably would have signed up to be one of those girls in the back of the Chicago reader. Like, I, I, I just figured what ha how literally, how else? Because I had a job, but I only worked however much I could work given the fact that we were in rehearsals and like busy all day, so I never could make enough money. And then I just, I think I always have had a dysfunctional relationship with money.1 (24m 51s):Wait a minute, but I have to interrupt. Why, why didn't our parents fucking help us? Okay. Look, I know I sound like a spoiled asshole brat, but like, when I think of the anxiety that we were going through and I know your mom did, so I'm not going to talk shit about your mom or anything, but I'm just saying like, why did we feel so alone in this when we were so young, this is not right.2 (25m 11s):Yeah. Well, my mom did help me out as much as she possibly could, but I think part of it too, my dad certainly didn't think it was that. I mean, when my mom was 18 and my dad was 19, they bought a house and had a baby. So I think part of it is, has been like, what's the matter with you? Cause I didn't go to college, you know, that's the other thing. So, so then when I, then I had a period for like 10 years where I always had three jobs, me two, what1 (25m 46s):Did you have enough then? I mean like, could you make rapid enough?2 (25m 49s):I had enough then yeah, I had enough then. But then when Aaron decided he wants to go to medical school, it was really on me to, to bring in the income. I mean, his parents always gave him money. They helped, it was a lot more. I mean, and actually it's why he became a therapist because I thought, well, we're going to be living with no income because he's going to be a student. Right. So I better giddy up and get a job. So the whole time I was in social work school, I was bartending. I remember that. And then I went quickly into private practice so that I could make money.2 (26m 29s):And it turned out to be, it turned out to backfire on me. Tell1 (26m 35s):Me, tell me, tell me more.2 (26m 37s):It backfired in two ways. Number one, I was, I shouldn't have been operating a private practice without my LCSW. I had my MSW and I was working at the time in a psych hospital. And all of the psychiatrist said, you should start your private practice. You should start your private practice. And I remember saying at the beginning, I don't know if I'm allowed to oh yes, yes. You definitely can. I know tons of MSWs into plenty of people and it's true. I don't know if it's still true now in New York, but at that time you could walk around and see plenty of nameplates for offices where somebody in private practice and that just have an MSW.2 (27m 18s):They just had to have a supervisor1 (27m 19s):Or something.2 (27m 22s):I don't know. Okay. I dunno. Right. So that ended up coming to haunt me when a disgruntled patient. And they're all disgruntled in some way, a family who actually had been swindled by a con artist, like they, they were a blue blood, rich ass family and they got swindled by a con artist. And so they were talking about rage. They had a lot of rage about that. When this guy who was paying for his daughter's treatment, didn't think it was going where, you know, he wanted it to right.2 (28m 4s):He started pushing back about the fee and then he was submitting to his insurance company and they were not reimbursing because I didn't have the LCSW. So then he reported me to the New York state office of professional discipline or1 (28m 21s):Whatever yeah.2 (28m 21s):Regulation or whatever. Yeah. And I ha I had to go through a whole thing. I had to have a lawyer and I had to go, yeah, yeah. It was a nightmare. It was a complete and total nightmare. And I, and I said nothing, but like, yeah, I did that. I did do that. And I did it because I needed to make the money. I mean, in some ways I don't regret it because I did it worked for the time that it worked. And then by the time it stopped working, I was ready to leave private practice anyway. Oh my God. Yeah. But then it also backfired because we were taking in this money, which we desperately needed living in New York city with two kids.2 (29m 3s):And, and we were, we were spending it all and not hold withholding any for taxes. So then that started, that started, that started almost 10 year saga of just, I mean, I, it's embarrassing to even say how much money we've paid in just in fees, compounded fees. Nope. I'm sure. In the last 10 years we've given the government a million dollars.1 (29m 29s):That sounds, that sounds about right. And you know, I think the thing with money too, is the amount of forgiveness I've need to muster up for the financial decisions that I have made. So one of them that I'm super embarrassed about is that, and I, and I hear you when it's like, yeah, I, it, it's embarrassing. I, I, when I did my solo show, I inherited the year that my mom died. My great aunt also died, who I very barely knew. And I inherited like, like a lot of money. Well, to me, a lot, like 50 grand from her, and I spent 15,000 on a publicist for my solo show that did nothing.1 (30m 14s):So I was swindled. Oh,2 (30m 17s):I'm so sorry to hear that. That really did nothing.1 (30m 22s):I could have done it all on my own. I could have done it all on my own, on drugs, in a coma. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, like, come on. So I have done made some questionable decisions. I did the best we did the best we could with, with the information that we all had at the time. I would never make that decision. I wouldn't, I will never make that mistake again. So yeah. Money is very, very, obviously this is so like kind of obvious to say, but it is, it is. So it is a way in which we really, really use it to either prize or shame ourselves. Right. And, and, and w I do it either way, like I do it.1 (31m 2s):Oh, I'm so fancy. I inherited this dough. And then I also do it. It's that thing that they talk about in program, which is like, you're the worm, but you're the best worm for the festival, special worms. And like, you're not a worker among workers. I'm just like the best idiot out there. It's like,2 (31m 18s):Dude. Yeah. And you're making me realize that money might be the only very quantifiable way of understanding your psychology list. The money is like, understanding your psychology through math. It's going okay. If you're a person like me who gets offered a credit card at age 20 totally signs up and, and immediately maxes it out at whatever, to get 27% interest rate. So whatever little thousand dollars of clothes I got, I probably paid $10 for it. And for the longest time. So, so that's me being afraid of the truth of my financial situation, being unwilling to sacrifice, having, you know, whatever, cute clothes being about the immediate gratification of it all and not thinking longterm.2 (32m 15s):Yeah.1 (32m 16s):Okay. Well, not asking for help either. Like, like, I don't know who I'd asked, but someone had to know more than me. I didn't ask my parents. They didn't really know what was happening at, or that just was their generation of like, not teaching us about money. It was sort of like, good luck. Get it together. We got it together. You get it together. Okay. Fine. But like unwillingness and fear to ask, to be taught something about money. Like, I didn't know, Jack shit about credit or interest Jack shit.2 (32m 46s):Yeah. And I recently realized that I'm basically redoing that with my kids, because we supposedly have this allowance. Only one of my kids ever remembers to ask for it because you know, only one of my kids is very, you know, very interested in money, but like, in a way I can understand why the others don't because it's like, well, anytime they want something, I pay for it. I never say sometimes I'll say recently, I've gotten better about saying, if we're going to go back to school shopping I'll especially if the oldest one, I'll say, this is your budget. If you, if you spend it all on one pair of sneakers, then I hope you're okay with your sweat pants that don't fit and wear them everyday for the rest of the school year.2 (33m 31s):Right. But it's, we've, we've just been extremely inconsistent in tying, like, for example, chores to your allowance,1 (33m 42s):It's fucking miserable and hard. And I have trouble doing that for myself. I wouldn't be able to do that for my children. If I had children, I can't not give the dog people food. What are you talking about? How am I going to bring it? Doesn't shock me. We didn't learn the skills and I'm not blaming. I mean, I'm blaming, of course my parents, but I'm also just saying, it's just the facts. If we're going to be that in the truth, like, I didn't learn, I didn't educate myself and nobody educated me. So I'm really learning through trial and error. Mostly error, how to be okay with money. And it is you're right. Like finances, romance, and finance teach us the most about our psychology.2 (34m 24s):Yeah. Yeah. Romance finance. I love that. 1 (34m 28s):I think that my boss at Lutheran social services to say all the time, finance and romance, romance, and finance, that's what all these addictions are about is that's how you see them. I'm like, she's right. I mean, she was, I liked her. She was bonkers, but I liked her. She said some good. She, she also is famous for saying, and she didn't say it, but she would always quote, the, no one gets out of here alive. You know, none of us getting out of here life, we might as well start2 (34m 54s):. Well, today on the podcast, we were talking to Carol Schweid and original cast member of the original production of a chorus line on Broadway. She's got great stories to tell she's a fascinating person. And I think you're going to really enjoy this conversation with Carol Schweid. Exactly. Carol shrine. Congratulations. You survived theater school. I did. You did.2 (35m 34s):And where did you go to theater school. Okay. First of all,3 (35m 38s):Let me just take my coffee, my extra coffee off of the stove and put it on my table. Cause it's gonna burn because we don't want that.4 (35m 51s):Okay. You're I am looking for a cop. If you have one, you know, this is ridiculous.3 (36m 2s):Hi there. Hi. This is a riot that you talk about surviving theater school. I think it's great. Okay. So this is working, right? You can hear me. Yeah, no, totally. A hundred percent. So this is my, I started college at Boston university. I was an acting major, which I loved. I really did, but I, what I loved more than anything was I loved the history of the theater. We had a great professor who told the tales of the gladiators and the, you know, the gladiators on the island and the fighting, and then the island, the survivors, and then the island would slowly sink into the water.3 (36m 45s):What is this? What did I miss? It was the early history of the theater. It was starting on the church steps. It was, you know, the second, whatever all of that history was, I found it really interesting. I also loved the station shop crew stuff. I liked learning about lighting. I was terrible at it. I, you know, I would fall off ladder, but I, I, I enjoyed the backstage stuff as much as I enjoy. I just, I liked it. I, we did the rose tattoo and my, and my first job was to take care of the goat. I was on the prop crew.3 (37m 28s):I took care of the goat. Was it a stuffed goat? No, it was a real goat. Wow. What can I tell you? The rose tattoo. There's a goat in the play. I didn't realize you could have livestock and colleges, college, whatever it was. I look like I have jaundice with is that something's wrong with the light jump I sent you stop your, where is the microphone part of your, do you want me to hold it up better? Because when you move, it hits your shirt and it makes like a scratching, right? That's right. I'll do it this way. I won't move around. When you look tan, you look, you don't like jaundice at all. Okay. Well then that's all right. Good. Thanks. Were the goat handlers.3 (38m 8s):Good to talk to you. I mean, that was, and I didn't mind, I didn't mind being an usher. All of those things, you know, I remember somebody sitting us down and saying, you're you are the first person. The audience we'll meet tonight as an usher. I took all of the stuff I did, but the acting business was very confusing to me. I didn't quite know. I had done a lot of theater and dancing and been in the shows and stuff, but I really, I was a little more of a dancer than an actor. I'd taken class in the city. I'd followed some cute guy from summer camp to his acting class. But half the time, I honestly didn't understand a word.3 (38m 48s):Anybody said, I just, nobody does. I really didn't get it so much at the time I loved it, but I didn't always get it. And for some reason, and I have no idea where this, why this happened. I had a boyfriend in summer stock whose mother worked at Barnard and her best friend was a woman named Martha Hill. Martha Hill ran the dance department at a school called Julliard. Nope. I had no idea. Cool. Just a little, nothing school. This is back in the day. It's a long time ago. It was just a plain old school. It wasn't like a school, you know, where you bow down. And I really was a very good dancer and always loved dancing.3 (39m 33s):You know, I've been dancing since I'm like a kid, a little five or six or whatever. So I was a little disenchanted with my successes at Boston U even though I had friends, I was having a great time. I mean, Boston in the late sixties was amazingly fun, but I felt like I wasn't getting it. I mean, it wasn't a school that was cutting people. Thank God, because that would have been torture. I don't know how anybody survives that, but I audition for this dance department in this school called Juilliard and got in and then told my parents that I was going to change colleges. I remember making up a dance in the basement of my dorm in Boston.3 (40m 17s):Cause you had a sort of take class and then you had to show something that you should have made up. And somebody else from college was leaving school to come to New York to be a singer. So we decided we were going to be roommates. And then we had a summer stock. Somebody at BU started some summer theaters. So I had a job or two, I think I had some friends from there. So I ended up moving, changing colleges and going to Juilliard. And I spent three years there. I was a modern dancer major. So we had the Limone company, including Jose Lamone wow teachers and the Graham company.3 (40m 59s):I mean, Martha, Martha Graham did not teach, but her company did as a winter and Helen, I was Helen McGee. One of the, they were maniacs. I mean, they're, they're like gods and goddesses and their whole life is about dance. And I was one of those demonstrators for her eight o'clock beginning class, my third year of school. I mean, I, it was all about technique. We had amazing ballet teachers. We had Fiorella Keane who, I mean, Anthony tutor taught class there and he was Anthony. I mean, so I got a out of being at that school that I have never lost. I mean, I can, I'm making up the answers for high school kids now really.3 (41m 42s):I'm just finishing up a production of grease, which is really kind of boring, but whatever I liked Greece, tell me more. Yeah. It's okay. If you hear it enough, you really get sick of it. Well, that's true. Yeah. I mean high school kids doing high school kids is like, Jesus, God, you just want to slit your throat. The moodiness when it comes to the girls. I mean, I love them. I really love them. I love the guys because puppies, they fall all over each other and they're fabulous, but that's a lie anyway. So I did something that I don't know why I did it and how it worked out. That way I left. I had a very best friend in college that was, you know, and I came to New York and made, made and shared an apartment with this slightly crazy woman.3 (42m 32s):And a year later I got myself a studio apartment on west end avenue and 71st street. And my mom co-signed the lease. And I spent three years dancing, honestly dancing almost every day. I wanted to take sights singing, but they wouldn't let me because I was in the dance department. And I didn't know, you could advocate for that. Sure. I didn't know. You could take classes at Columbia. I mean, who had time anyway, but was it a three-year program? It was a four year program, but I had taken a music class at BU that was like music appreciation one. Yeah. And for whatever reason, they gave me credit for that.3 (43m 14s):So I had a full year credit. Yep. Three years of Juilliard where I really worked my tail off. What's weird about it is that I am, you know, just a plain old Jewish girl from New Jersey, you know, a middle-class Jewish girlfriend. And to, to think that I could have a profession where people don't talk and don't eat, which is what the answers do is a riot to me. Yeah. Yeah. It's an absolute riot because you know, I mean, that should be basically the manual for dancers. Don't talk, don't eat, but I always knew that I was heading to Broadway. I really have always wanted to do that.3 (43m 55s):And I, and, and w was not really ever in question that I would, I somehow assumed if I worked hard and figured it out enough, I would find my way to working on Broadway. And I, and I made the right choice in the sense of switching colleges. Because in the seventies, if you look at your list of Broadway shows, all the directors were choreographers. They were all dancers, all of them Fauci, Michael Bennett champion, all of them. So I started working when I got out of school, you know, it was, and I had already done a couple of summers of summer stock and I did a summer Bushkill pencil, you know, these ridiculous, stupid theaters all over, but it was a blast.3 (44m 36s):It was fun. Where, what was your first job out of school? I was still, I was in school and it was the Mount Suttington Playhouse, which was like a tin shell in Connecticut. And I think it was still in college. Cause two guys from school had opened this theater at the skiing place, but it wasn't skiing. Then it was a sh it was like a tin shell. So couldn't really do a show when it was raining very well. And I believe it was stopped the world. I want to get off and I can still remember the Alto harmony to some of the songs. So you okay. Wait, so you don't consider, you didn't consider yourself a, an actor or did you?3 (45m 20s):Well, I did, but I think what happened was I had to audition for something. It'd be you like, they had grad programs and it wasn't that I was unsuccessful there, but somebody came and I didn't get cast. I didn't get hired. And I didn't understand, you know, like they give you all these acting exercises. We do sense memory. Well, I didn't know they were exercises. I didn't, they were they're like plea aids. Right. They're like learning things. I took this all very seriously. I would stand in a room and try to feel it was like that song from chorus line, you know, try to feel the emotion, feel the, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.3 (46m 5s):I did all of that. I didn't really understand the simple, what am I want here? And what's in my way of trying to get it. Yeah. It took me so long to find teachers that I really could understand and make me a better actor. So when did you find them? When did you start to find them? Oh, that's interesting. Well, I found a couple of good teachers in New York. I mean, honestly there was a woman named Mary Tarsa who had been in the group theater and an older lady. I mean, it's a long time ago anyway, you know, but I remember sitting in her class and she would talk about using imagery and th and I started to sort of understand a little bit, which is amazing to me because after I moved to Westport and I met, do you know the name Phoebe brand?3 (46m 58s):Yeah. Phoebe brand was in our theater workshop. Oh, taught a class. She was already up in her eighties and she taught a class, a Shakespeare class on Sunday mornings. And all of a sudden these things that I didn't understand from decades before. Hmm. It sort of pulled it all together. But for me, I went, I was in California after I got married and moved to LA for a couple of years, found a teacher named John LAN and Lee H N E and two years in his class. I started to really understand how to do it. And then when I came back to New York, he sent me to Michael Howard and Michael Howard, Michael Howard was a great teacher for me.3 (47m 44s):He's still a great, I don't know if he's still around if he's teaching or not, but he was a wonderful teacher. And I started to understand how to do it. Was Len the, did he teach the method or what was yes, he was, he was an actor studio teacher. And I started to understand about being present on the stage and being able to deal with people. All of it, it just changed dramatically. I mean, I started to understand what this was about and seeing other good actors and chipping away at it and finding people to rehearse with. And1 (48m 22s):You, you, from what I know, and what I'm gathering is that once you graduated Juilliard, you were cast in New York.3 (48m 30s):Well, you know, I did get my very, my V I I've. I mean, I, I remember going to see midnight cowboy, which was about the same time as I got out of college. And I remember going into a terrible panic of, oh my God. I mean, really scared about all of it. And I, I went, I joined a class that a friend of mine, somebody told me about this class, you know, I always follow somebody to a class. I'm always, I have good friends. And I, somebody says, oh, I love this guy come to class and I'd show up.3 (49m 12s):And this was a musical comedy singing class, kind of where there were writers in the class and actors in the class. And the writers in the class would work on a musical that they didn't have permission for. It wasn't like they were, we were doing this for money or for, for future. So my friend who I became friends with wrote her musical version of barefoot in the park and which has never been done, but I remember I was in it and this guy was in it. And we, it was the kind of a class where it was a very warm, funny group, funny group of wacko theater people. And I would go to open calls and I'd usually go to open dance calls because that was a door for me.3 (49m 59s):And also I used to have to sneak out of Jew, not sneak necessarily, but essentially sneak out to take my singing lessons. And I took singing lessons every, you know, every week for years, for three years, I would, you know, and I, and I was not really, I don't think a very good singer, but I became a good singer. I would sneak out of school and go to an acting class. I don't even know when I started that, but I know that I would find the time to do it and then talk about acting and find a teacher so that when I would audition for a musical and I would get through the dancing. Usually if I got through the first cut, I would make it to the end. I wouldn't always get the job, but if I made it through that first horrible, random cut, you know, where there's 200 people in your dancing across the stage and it's yes, no, yes, no.3 (50m 47s):Is it really?1 (50m 48s):Because I'm not a dancer. So I never had this. I, when my agents are like, oh, there's an open dance call. I'm like, ah, that's you sent the wrong person, the email. So it's really like that, like in, in chorus line where they say, you know,3 (51m 1s):Oh yeah. It's like all that jazz. It's really like that.2 (51m 6s):Wait, I have a question. I want to hear the re the rest of that. But I, I just, I've never asked anybody. What's the biggest difference between the people who got cut immediately. I mean, was it training or were there people that, in other words, were there people who were just walking in off the street with no training trying to audition? Yeah,1 (51m 29s):No, truly an open call.3 (51m 31s):No. And sometimes these were equity calls. Cause I, I, I did get my equity card on a summer. That one summer I worked for a non-union, you know, we were in either Bushkill Pennsylvania or Southern Eaton Connecticut, or I did a couple of those summers. And then the next summer, the choreographer from that show had an equity job. And he hired like three of us from our non-unions summer stock, because we were good enough. And1 (52m 4s):So when you went to these open calls, everyone, there was a bad-ass dancer. No one, there was like,3 (52m 10s):That's not true. That's not true. There were all different levels of dancers, but it was also a look await, you know, it was always, I was always like seven pounds overweight. It was like, the torture is thing of weight does enough to put anybody over the edge1 (52m 26s):That they literally3 (52m 27s):Weigh you, Carol. Oh God. No. Oh, but it's so look, and I will tell you there's one. There was one time when I remember auditioning for above Fossey show and there were a lot of people on the stage and we were whatever we were doing. And then at 1.3 Fossey dancers, it was their turn. And these three gals, okay. Their hair was perfect. Their makeup was fabulous. They had a little necklace, they had a black leotards, you know, cut up high, but not out of control. Good tights, no, no runs, nice shoes, nails done.3 (53m 7s):And they were fantastic. They were clean. They were technically, and we all sort of went, oh fuck.1 (53m 16s):Right.3 (53m 18s):Right. And I have friends who became Fossey dancers. I mean, I worked for Bob, but I have friends who did a lot of shows him. And they had that same experience where they saw other people, the way it should be. And then they would go back a month later and get the job because they knew what it took. It was all about knowing what it takes. But the thing about having studied acting and having slowly studied singing is that in the world of musical theater, I was ahead of the game because there's not that much time. So you have to be willing to spend all of your time.3 (54m 0s):Right.1 (54m 1s):There are some people I'm assuming Carol, that could dance wonderfully, but couldn't do the singing and the acting part. And that's where you were like, that's the triple threat newness of it all is like, you could do3 (54m 12s):Well, I could do them better than a lot of people. And I certainly could sing well, and I had, I could sing a short song and I knew that you sing a short song. I knew that you'd probably do an uptempo, you know? And also I tend to be a little angry when I go into an audition. It's like, why do I fuck? Do I have to audition? I better, duh. So I needed to find things that allowed me to be a little angry so I could be myself. And I could also be a little funny if I could figure out how to do that. So all of these things worked in my favor. And then of course, like everybody else in her, a lot of people, pat Birch, who was a choreographer, she had like a gazillion shows running, including Greece on Broadway. And now over here, I don't know if she did grease, but she did over here.3 (54m 55s):She did. She was very prolific choreographer. She had been a Martha Graham dancer and she had taught a couple of classes at Julliard. And when it came to my auditioning for her, she needed girls who could dance like boys. She didn't need tall leggy, chorus girls. We were doing the show she was working on, was a show called Minnie's boys. And it was a show about the Marx brothers and the last number of the show. We were all the whole chorus was dressed up like different Marx brothers. And she needed girls who could be low to the ground, who can, you could turn who and I was the right person.3 (55m 36s):And I remember being in that class, that wonderful musical theater class with a teacher named Mervin Nelson, who was just a great older guy who kind of worked in the business. I remember I had to go to my callback. I went to my class and the callback was at night. And I remember him walking me to the door, putting his arm around me and saying, go get the job. And if you don't get this one, we'll get you. The next one1 (56m 4s):That makes me want to3 (56m 4s):Cry. Well, it made me feel like part of the family, cause we all want to be part of that theater family. And so I tend to do that when I'm with an actor, who's going to go get a job or go get, you know, you want to feel like it's possible. Yeah. You feel like you can, you deserve it.1 (56m 29s):You said, you mentioned briefly that you worked for Bob3 (56m 32s):Fossey. I did.1 (56m 35s):Oh my gosh. Did you turn into one of those ladies that looked like a bossy dancer too? Like, did you then show up to those auditions? Like, oh3 (56m 43s):No, I don't think I, I couldn't, I didn't, I could not get into a chorus of Bob Fossey, but I did get to play for strata in Pippin in the, in the, in the first national tour. And he, Bob was the, he was the director and I, I knew I was the right person for that job. It was also a funny, kind of lovely circumstances that I was in some off-Broadway an off-Broadway show that had started as an awful off, off of a, that, that Bubba, that moved to an off-Broadway theater. I got some excellent reviews. And I think the day the review came out was the day I had my audition for Bob Fossey.3 (57m 24s):So I, and I played it. I had talked to people who knew him. I talked to, you know, I, I knew that I, I don't know, I just, I, I had done some work and I just, I don't know the right person at the right time, somebody, he needed it. That part required a good dancer. Who could, I don't know how I got the part. I just,1 (57m 57s):I'm kind of getting the impression that we're talking about being a strong dancer.3 (58m 0s):Well, let's strong dancer. And also being able to, being able to talk and sing was really the key. I'm not sure that I certainly, as a young person, I, I didn't do nearly as much comedy as I did when I got a little older, but, and also there were a lot of divisions. You sort of either did musicals or you did straight plays and it was hard to get into an audition even for a straight play. And the truth is I think that a lot of us who thought we were better than we were as you get better, you see when you really, wasn't a very strong actor.1 (58m 43s):Right. But there's something about that. What I'm noticing and what you're talking about is like, there's something about the confidence that you had by maybe thinking that you might've been a little better than you were that actually behooves young actors and performers that, you know, cause when Gina and I talked to these people were like, oh my God, they have a healthy ego, which actually helps them to not give up as where I was like, I'm terrible. I'm giving up at the first hour.3 (59m 9s):Exactly. Right. Right. And, and it, and it goes back and forth. It's like a CSO one day, you feel like, oh yeah, I'm good at this. I can walk it. I get, I'm like, I'm okay with this. And the next day you just to hide under the bed, I think that's sort of the way it goes. I didn't know that people who worked on Broadway even then all had coaches and teachers and support systems and you know, being kind of a little more of a lone Wolf, which I was, and still fight against in a way I come against that a lot, for whatever reasons, you know, whatever it doesn't work, what to be a lone Wolf.3 (59m 54s):Yeah. Yeah. You can't do this alone. You can't do it without a support system. It's just too hard because when I actually had the best opportunity I had, which was being part of a chorus line, it was harder than I thought to just be normal, come up with a good performance every night, you know, it was up and down and loaded and that you lost your voice and had nobody to talk to because you couldn't talk anyway. And we didn't have the internet yet. You know, there was so many, it was so much pressure and so much, and I hadn't really figured out how to create that support system up for myself.3 (1h 0m 42s):And it was harder, harder than it needed to be. Did you ultimately find it with the cast? No. Oh, not really where they mean, oh, none of the cast was fine. It wasn't that anybody was mean it's that I didn't take care of myself and I didn't know how I was supposed to take care of my shirt. How old were you when you were cast in a chorus line? 27? Maybe I was, I was young and, but I wasn't that young. I just, but it wasn't that C w it was a strange situation to, I was, I had already had one Broadway show, so I had done, and then I had gone out of town to bucks county Playhouse.3 (1h 1m 25s):And did west side story Romeo was your first Broadway show. I'm sorry. It was called Minnie's boys. Oh, that was it. That was my, I did. And it was a show about the Marx brothers. Right. And I don't know if you know who Louis. We would probably do Louis Stadol and Louis J Staglin who works with, he works with Nathan Lane a lot. Oh yeah. Yeah. He's like second bun and he's incredibly talented. He played Groucho. Okay. We were all 25 years old. We were kids. We were right out of college. And the weirdest part of all was that the mother was played by Shelley winters. And this was a musical. What a weird you've really. Okay. So then you went onto chorus line.3 (1h 2m 6s):Well then, well then in between that, this is like, you know, then, then I went out of town to bucks county. I love being in bucks county for a year. We did west side story. We did Romeo and Juliet during the week. We do them together, one in the morning, one in the afternoon for high school kids. And then on the weekends, we do one of the, and I was the only person in the cast who liked dancing at 10 o'clock in the morning. You know, I didn't mind doing west side at 10 in the morning. I'd been up at eight, being a demonstrator for Mary Hinkson, teaching people how to do a contraction. So I didn't care. I love working in the daytime. That's what I play with your food is such a nice success. My lunchtime theaters here, I get tired at night.3 (1h 2m 47s):I don't know.2 (1h 2m 49s):Most people do wait. So was the, was the audition process for chorus line?3 (1h 2m 56s):I have a great story. I can tell you what my story is. Okay. So I, I was in, I don't know what I was doing. I had done a lot of off-Broadway work. I had been doing, I had been working a lot. And then of course there were the year where I didn't work. And then I went off to south North Carolina and played Nellie Forbush in south Pacific, in the dinner theater for three months. And I loved that. Actually, I think it was one of those times I had a job and a boyfriend and it was like a relief. It was wonderful to have like a life and then do the show at night. You know, I, I enjoyed that a lot and I didn't, you know, it was a big part and I didn't panic about seeing it.3 (1h 3m 37s):And it was just, I learned a lot from doing a part like that. I was doing Fiddler on the roof at a dinner theater in New Jersey, down the street from where my folks lived. And occasionally my mom would stop by her rehearsal and watch the wedding scene. Honest to God. I'm not kidding. She's like, Carol, you ever gonna get married? Are you ever gonna? Okay. So I'm doing Fiddler on the roof, in New Jersey. And there's a guy in the cast, one of the bottle dancers who were dropping off at night on 55th street, because he's working on this little musical about dancers and he would bring in monologues and he'd asked me to read them at rehearsal because he wanted to hear them out loud.3 (1h 4m 25s):And there was some stuff about this place to ever hear the peppermint lounge back in the studio. Right. It was a disco thing, but it was also a place where there was something. I remember one the couch girls, girls who would just lie on the couches and the guys, I mean really crazy stuff that did not make it into the show, but some interesting stuff. And I was playing the eldest daughter sidle, and it's a terrific part for me. So I was good. Yeah. And Nick knew I was a dancer. Anyway, this little show called the chorus line was in its workshop. Second workshop. They had already done the I, cause I was not a Michael Bennett dancer. I didn't, you know, I, I, I had auditioned for my goal once for the tour of two for the Seesaw.3 (1h 5m 10s):And it was the leading part and I didn't get it. I auditioned, I sang and I read and I read and I sang and I didn't get the part. And I came home and I was like in hysterics for like five days. I just, you know, I, I didn't get the part year and a half later, I'm doing Fiddler on the roof with Nick, Dante in New Jersey. And somebody leaves the second workshop and Nick brings up my name because there's a job all of a sudden to cover, to be in the opening and to cover a couple of parts next, bring up my name. And Michael Bennett says, wait a minute. I know her. I know she's an actress and she's a singer. Can she dance?3 (1h 5m 52s):So I showed up the next morning and I danced for 10 minutes and I got the job. I mean, I think, wow. Yeah. That's a great story.2 (1h 6m 1s):No. So that means you didn't have to participate in3 (1h 6m 4s):Callbacks or nothing. Oh, I started that day. I mean, honestly, it was Fiddler on the roof, you know what, I don't remember whether, how it went. Cause we were already in performance tour or something, you know, I, I it's a long time ago, so I don't really remember, but I know that this particular story is the absolute truth. That's fantastic. That2 (1h 6m 27s):Was it a hit right away3 (1h 6m 29s):Chorus line. Well, it wasn't, we were in previews. I'm no, we weren't even previous the second workshop, which means it was still being figured out. And when I came to the first rehearsal and sat and watched what was going on, I could not believe what I was seeing because the truth of what was happening on stage and the way it was being built was astounding. It was absolutely astounding because something about it was so bizarre. Oh. And also, also Marvin Hamlisch was the rehearsal pianist on Minnie's boys.3 (1h 7m 10s):Wow. So I knew him a little bit, not well, you know, but he was the rehearsal pianist that nobody would listen to a show about the Marx brothers, Marvin would say, wait, this is the Marx brothers. You got to have a naked girl running out of the orchestra pit. You gotta, you gotta, and of course, nobody would listen to him. Wait a minute, just turn this off, stop, stop, turn off. Sorry. So I couldn't get over what I was seeing. And I, I knew from the beginning, of course, I think most of us did that. Something very, very unique was going on and it was always changing. Like Donna McKechnie came in late at the audition, all dressed up in like a fur thing.3 (1h 7m 56s):And it was like, I'm sorry, I'm late. I'm sorry. I'm late. And then Zach says, would you put on dance clothes? And she said, no, no, wait a minute. Anyway, you couldn't help. But know sort of, you just kind of put,2 (1h 8m 8s):I mean, I remember seeing it when I was a kid and not, not being able to relate as an actor, but now that I think back, it just must've felt so gratifying to be seen for all of the, you know, because like we w the Joe Montana episode, we3 (1h 8m 28s):Haven't listened to yet, but I'm looking forward to2 (1h 8m 30s):It here today. But he was saying, I love3 (1h 8m 33s):Him2 (1h 8m 34s):For you. You were saying that when he won the Tony and everybody would say, well, it's like to win the Tony, what's it? Like he said, it's like, you won the lottery, but you been buying tickets for 15 years. You know, that's the part of acting that people now, I think it's a pretty common knowledge that it's really difficult to be an actor, but I don't know how Hmm, how known that was then. And it just, must've been so gratifying for all of those people. I mean, who are living in their real life? The story of that musical. Yeah.3 (1h 9m 9s):I think that that's true. And also, I mean, it really did come out of people's experiences. Those stories are so, so to be part of something like that, and down at the public theater, which of course it was a vol place to be, you know, you, you knew that Meryl Streep was walking down the hallway and you knew that. I mean, talk about confidence. I mean, I don't know if you've read her new book, no book about her. No, it's worth the time I listened to it. Actually, I didn't read it. I listened to, it's quite wonderful because you see a very confident person who's working on creating who she is.1 (1h 9m 47s):Do you feel, I feel like you have a really strong sense of confidence about yourself too. Where did that come from? Would you agree? First of all, that you have, it sounds like you had some comps, some real chutzpah as a youngster and maybe now as well. Where'd that come from3 (1h 10m 5s):Beats me. I have it now because I, I, I, I've had a lot of, a lot of experience. And I, I think that, that, I, I think I know a lot about this, but I don't know that I had it. The trick was to have this kind of confidence when it really matters. Yes. And I think I had it, like if I was in an off-Broadway show, I could say, I don't think that's good enough. Could you restage this blah, blah, blah. Or if I'm in North Carolina, I'm not, I think we need to dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. But when it comes down to the real nitty gritty of standing up for yourself, when it really, really matters, boy, that's harder than it looks.3 (1h 10m 51s):You know, even things like, I mean, my character, when I eventually took over the role of Miralis, which I under, you know, I was we've covered all these parts. There were nine of us. We sang in the little booth in the wings. We had microphones and little headsets. And the coolest part of all was Jerry Schoenfeld, who was the chairman of the Schubert organization would bring any visiting dignitary who was visiting the city that he was showing around his theaters. He would bring them into our little booth. And then we would watch the show from stage left in our little booth while we're singing, give me the ball, give him the ball. Cause half the dancers on the stage, cause stop singing because they had a solo coming up.3 (1h 11m 31s):So, you know, singing in a musical is not easy. You know, there's a lot of pressure and you got to hit high notes and you, you know, you just wake up in the middle of the night going torture, torture, and you have to work through that and finally go, fuck it. You know, fuck it. I don't care what I weigh. Fuck it. I don't care if I, if I can't hit the high note, but it, it takes a long time to get there. You know, I see people who do this all the time. I don't know how they live. I don't know how they sleep at night. There's no wonder people like to hire singers who have graduated from programs where they really understand their voice, know how to protect that, which you don't, you know, you have to learn, you have to learn how to really take.3 (1h 12m 24s):That's why, you know, it's wondering about ballet companies now have misuses and we didn't have any of that. You were hanging out there alone. I felt maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I felt. And if I was vulnerable or if I didn't feel well, and I was like, oh, what am I going to do? I can't tell anybo

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Carol Cooke was once told by a doctor that she would no longer live her life as she knew it after being diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis. Her condition, though, did not stop her from doing what she wanted to do, finding herself rowing then cycling in competitions.The results of her hard work and perseverance are impressive and inspirational for Boomers: 3x gold-medallist in the Paralympics and 9x world champion in cycling. Join me in this episode and learn why Carol is a Kickass Boomer!  [00:01 - 07:03] Opening Segment I introduce and welcome Carol Cooke The journey to becoming a world-class athlete  [07:04 - 17:40] Handling Multiple Sclerosis Here’s why you should visit Melbourne, Australia  How Carol handled this condition that felt like “being hit by a bus” Carol talks about  this life-changing 5.8 seconds in a sport [17:41 - 27:55] From Rowing to Cycling  Carol talks about the time she almost gave up rowing When someone told her she’s not a rower But another type of athlete Competing against men Carol shares her experience  [27:56 - 40:10] Boomers Can Play Sports  Carol talks about her experience in the 2016 Paralympics Age is just a number! Can Boomers be sporty? Listen to Carol Carol shares her experience in writing a book for the first time [40:11 - 50:40] A Boomer’s Passion  Publishing is harder than writing Carol tells us why Why she wouldn’t change her past if she has the chance  Finding your passion in your Boomer years  [50:41 - 59:05] Closing Segment  Carol talks about having the right mindset not just in sports How can the Boomer Nation connect with you?  Links below Final words   Tweetable Quotes: “Just try something new and it doesn’t have to be sport-related.” - Carol Cooke “No matter what age we are, we can always push ourselves and we can always set new goals.” - Carol Cooke   Resources mentioned: Carol’s book: Finding Your Inner Gold Andrew Jobling   Check out Carol’s website to learn more about her work and schedule a meeting with her. Follow her on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and LinkedIn.  WATCH OUT for Carol’s new book: The Force Within - from Police Officer to Paralympian   ----- BEE BOLD, NOT OLD.  LEAVE A REVIEW and join me on my journey to become and stay a Kickass Boomer! Visit http://kickassboomers.com/ to listen to the previous episodes. Also check us out on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and LinkedIn.   Email terry@kickassboomers.com and connect with me online and on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and LinkedIn.

Hola, soy Lissette Santana, Cristiana, Mentora de Liderazgo y Reinvención Profesional, Autora del Libro Best Seller “Lidera el Proceso”, y este es el Episodio No. 22 de tú Podcast “Tomando Acción”, donde te acompaño por unos minutos con una dosis de Liderazgo para reinventarte. El tema de hoy es “Es hora de reinventar tu camino, es hora de volver a empezar-. En este episodio te cuento una historia que escribí para que juntas reflexionemos y saquemos una enseñanza a través de la frase del día, especialmente para ti y para mí. A continuación, te comparto parte del dialogo de la historia entre María y Carol: Carol le dijo: -Realmente no quería enfrentar la realidad, anticiparme a esto, evitar estas emociones, siempre estuvo como prioridad, pero me dejé llevar de lo que ya era una costumbre, de lo que hacía cada día, de lo bien que lo hacía y de la ilusa idea de que tanta entrega de mi parte y reconocimiento verbal de la empresa, harían de mi servicio la opción perfecta para escalar a esa posición abierta-. María finalmente confiesa y le aconseja: -Aunque no te lo había dicho antes, tanto mi jefe como los demás consideran que eres una de las mejores gerentes de este lugar. Por eso, y basado en lo que yo también pienso, te digo: tienes toda la capacidad, el talento y la experiencia para volver a empezar, no te limites, seca tus lagrimas con orgullo y levanta tu cabeza, abre la puerta, y definitivamente sal de este baño sin llorar, ya tendrás otro lugar especial donde esparcir tu grandeza, es hora de reinventar tu camino, es hora de volver a empezar-. La Frase para Tomar Acción del episodio hoy es: “No sigas buscando fuera lo que está dentro de ti, tienes la capacidad, el talento y una experiencia acumulada, que son tu base para volver empezar, mientras haya vida, podemos empezar de nuevo, así que ya cierra el duelo, y encuentra o crea ese lugar desde donde compartirás tu grandeza, es hora de reinventar tu camino” TWEET THIS Hasta aquí lo que quise compartir contigo en este episodio. Espero que te inspire a tomar acción para reinventarte profesionalmente. ***MENCIONES DE ESTE EPISODIO*** -Instagram Lissette ***RECURSOS RECOMENDADOS*** -Ebook Gratis – Página Lissette Santana -Libro Lidera el Proceso, una Historia de Reinvención Gracias por acompañarnos. Si te ha gustado episodio de hoy, déjanos tú comentario y compártelo con alguien que también quiere reinventarse. Síguenos en instagram @lissettesantanaf.

Kommentoi | Twitter | Instagram–––- Missing Link: Rakkaudesta tarinoihin ja viihteellisyyteen- HS: Irlantilainen viihdekirjailija on noussut suomalaisten suursuosikiksi etenkin äänikirjoissa – ”Sarja tarjoaa matkan pois tästä todellisuudesta”08:06 – Tomo-chan is a Girl!: Esittely- Tomo-chan is a Girl!- Satoko and Nada, josta puhuimme jaksossa 1010:26 – Tomo-chan is a Girl!: Tematiikka- Petterin kirjoitus sarjasta Anime-lehdessä 8/2016 (pdf)- Monthly Girls’ Nozaki-kun14:44 – Tomo-chan is a Girl!: Tomo- Äänijälki – Jakso 14: Kuinka draamalaama kesytetään (Keisarin uudet kuviot)- Liikunnallisuus hallitsee Tomon ajatusmaailmaa (kuva)- …Mutta Tomo on silti tyttömäinen ja viaton (kuva)- Tomo käyttää minä-pronominiä “atashi“20:13 – Tomo-chan is a Girl!: Jun- Jun tajusi vasta yläasteella että Tomo on tyttö (kuva)- Jun on kyllä tietoinen Tomon sukupuolesta, mutta yrittää aggressiivisesti jättää sen huomiotta (kuva)- Myöhään valvominen (kuva)27:38 – Tomo-chan is a Girl!: Misuzu- Misuzu on vähän kuin Fruits Basketin Hanajima (kuva)- Jun ja Misuzu eivät ole koskaan oikein tulleet toimeen (kuva)- “Aikooko hän lopultakin tappaa minut?“ (kuva)- Misuzun konflikti Tomon auttamisen suhteen (kuva)32:02 – Tomo-chan is a Girl!: Carol- Carol on immuuni Misuzulle (kuva)36:32 – Tomo-chan is a Girl!: Muut hahmot- Tomon vanhemmat (kuva)- As Miss Beelzebub Likes38:54 – Tomo-chan is a Girl!: Huumori, kerronta ja strippiformaatti- Rip Kirby- Muumipeikko-sarjakuva- Stripin punchline voi olla myös dramaattinen, ei humoristinen (kuva)- Leveän strippiformaatin takia kaavaa voi myös venyttää vähän (kuva)- Twi-4-brändin muita sarjoja- Seven Seas lisensoi hiljattain myös Creepy Catin ja Happy Kanako’s Killer Lifen47:40 – Tomo-chan is a Girl!: Julkaisu ja käännös- Stripin otsikko on joskus osa vitsiä (kuva)- Ensimmäisten pokkarien kansikuvat ovat ikävän huonolaatuiset (kuva)53:00 – Tomo-chan is a Girl!: Spoileriosio (pokkarista 6)- Status quon ylläpitäminen vaatii Juniltakin vaivannäköä (kuva)- Aina ei tarvitse valita jompaakumpaa (kuva)- Misuzukin oppii arvostamaan Carolin ystävyyttä omalla tavallaan (kuva)- Junin ja Misuzun hetkellinen yläasteseurustelu oli sarjan alussa lähinnä huumoria, mutta sen draamapuolta avataan myöhemmin (kuva) - Jakso 34, jossa puhuimme Silver Spoonista01:04:13 – Tomo-chan is a Girl!: Yhteenveto- Yllättävän paljon draamaa huumorisarjaksi (kuva)01:06:37 – Seven Seas ja Mushoku tensei -ranoben käännöksen siistiminen- ANN: Seven Seas Addresses Mushoku Tensei, Classroom of the Elite Light Novel Localization Changes- Mushoku Tensei: Jobless Reincarnation- Classroom of the Elite- Sarjojen käännösten vertailua Redditissä- Poistettuja mainintoja seksuaalisesta pakottamisesta (kuva)- Mushoku Tensein kääntäjän twiitti- Justin Sevakisin twiitti Seven Seasistä- Kodomo no jikan- Seven Seas perui Kodomo no jikanin julkaisemisen vuonna 2007- Jakso 31 ja jakso 32, joissa keskustelemme Amazonin myynnistä poistamista ranobeista01:20:25 – My Hero Academian fanit kiusasivat sarjan kääntäjän pois Twitteristä- Caleb Cook- My Hero Academia- Endeavor- Cook laittoi Endeavorin sanomaan “dammit“ kun hän hakkasi vaimoaan ja lastaan (kuva)- Fanit syyttivät Cookia copypaste-virheestä pokkarijulkaisussa - Cook oli ärtynyt sarjaa ennen julkaisupäivää vuotavaa tyyppiä kohtaan (kuva)01:33:22 – Konishi-palkinto parhaalle mangan ranskankieliselle käännökselle - Manga-News: Titres nommés à la quatrième édition du Prix Konishi pour la traduction de manga- Lista ehdokkaista kommentteineen- Vuoden 2021 voittaja: Tokyo Tarareba Girls, josta puhuimme jaksossa 38Muut ehdokkaat:- Shadows House- Spy x Family- Moi aussi- Girls’ Last Tour- Dr. Stone- Bakemonogatari- La Jeunesse de Yoshio- L’appel de Cthulhu- Aria the Masterpiece01:43:10 – Kuulijakommentteja- Genshiken01:47:52 – Lukujonossa: Riki- Riki Tokio.fissä- Riki Gingapediassa- Yoshihiro Takahashi- Dramaattinen kertojanääni (kuva)- Manga Goraku -seinenlehti, jossa Takahashin sarjat nykyään ilmestyvät02:01:54 – Lopetus

Tomo-chan is a Girl! on Fumita Yanagidan neliruutukomedia, jossa karatea harjoittava poikatyttö Tomo tahtoisi herättää lapsuudenystävänsä romanttisen kiinnostuksen. Ajankohtaisina aiheina puhumme siitä miten Seven Seas oli poistanut Mushoku tensei -ranobesarjasta raiskausviitteitä, siitä miten My Hero Academia -fanit ahdistelivat sarjan kääntäjän lopettamaan Twitterin käytön sekä parhaalle mangan ranskankieliselle käännökselle jaettavasta Konishi-palkinnosta. Lukujonossa on Yoshihiro Takahashin yksipokkarinen Riki, joka kertoo Hopeanuolen isän nuoruudesta. ––– Kommentoi | Twitter | Instagram ––– - Missing Link: Rakkaudesta tarinoihin ja viihteellisyyteen - HS: Irlantilainen viihdekirjailija on noussut suomalaisten suursuosikiksi etenkin äänikirjoissa – ”Sarja tarjoaa matkan pois tästä todellisuudesta” 08:06 – TOMO-CHAN IS A GIRL!: ESITTELY - Tomo-chan is a Girl! - Satoko and Nada, josta puhuimme jaksossa 10 10:26 – TOMO-CHAN IS A GIRL!: TEMATIIKKA - Petterin kirjoitus sarjasta Anime-lehdessä 8/2016 (pdf) - Monthly Girls' Nozaki-kun 14:44 – TOMO-CHAN IS A GIRL!: TOMO - Äänijälki – Jakso 14: Kuinka draamalaama kesytetään (Keisarin uudet kuviot) - Liikunnallisuus hallitsee Tomon ajatusmaailmaa (kuva) - …Mutta Tomo on silti tyttömäinen ja viaton (kuva) - Tomo käyttää minä-pronominiä “atashi“ 20:13 – TOMO-CHAN IS A GIRL!: JUN - Jun tajusi vasta yläasteella että Tomo on tyttö (kuva) - Jun on kyllä tietoinen Tomon sukupuolesta, mutta yrittää aggressiivisesti jättää sen huomiotta (kuva) - Myöhään valvominen (kuva) 27:38 – TOMO-CHAN IS A GIRL!: MISUZU - Misuzu on vähän kuin Fruits Basketin Hanajima (kuva) - Jun ja Misuzu eivät ole koskaan oikein tulleet toimeen (kuva) - “Aikooko hän lopultakin tappaa minut?“ (kuva) - Misuzun konflikti Tomon auttamisen suhteen (kuva) 32:02 – TOMO-CHAN IS A GIRL!: CAROL - Carol on immuuni Misuzulle (kuva) 36:32 – TOMO-CHAN IS A GIRL!: MUUT HAHMOT - Tomon vanhemmat (kuva) - As Miss Beelzebub Likes 38:54 – TOMO-CHAN IS A GIRL!: HUUMORI, KERRONTA JA STRIPPIFORMAATTI - Rip Kirby - Muumipeikko-sarjakuva - Stripin punchline voi olla myös dramaattinen, ei humoristinen (kuva) - Leveän strippiformaatin takia kaavaa voi myös venyttää vähän (kuva) - Twi-4-brändin muita sarjoja - Seven Seas lisensoi hiljattain myös Creepy Catin ja Happy Kanako's Killer Lifen 47:40 – TOMO-CHAN IS A GIRL!: JULKAISU JA KÄÄNNÖS - Stripin otsikko on joskus osa vitsiä (kuva) - Ensimmäisten pokkarien kansikuvat ovat ikävän huonolaatuiset (kuva) 53:00 – TOMO-CHAN IS A GIRL!: SPOILERIOSIO (POKKARISTA 6) - Status quon ylläpitäminen vaatii Juniltakin vaivannäköä (kuva) - Aina ei tarvitse valita jompaakumpaa (kuva) - Misuzukin oppii arvostamaan Carolin ystävyyttä omalla tavallaan (kuva) - Junin ja Misuzun hetkellinen yläasteseurustelu oli sarjan alussa lähinnä huumoria, mutta sen draamapuolta avataan myöhemmin (kuva) - Jakso 34, jossa puhuimme Silver Spoonista 01:04:13 – TOMO-CHAN IS A GIRL!: YHTEENVETO - Yllättävän paljon draamaa huumorisarjaksi (kuva) 01:06:37 – SEVEN SEAS JA MUSHOKU TENSEI -RANOBEN KÄÄNNÖKSEN SIISTIMINEN - ANN: Seven Seas Addresses Mushoku Tensei, Classroom of the Elite Light Novel Localization Changes - Mushoku Tensei: Jobless Reincarnation - Classroom of the Elite - Sarjojen käännösten vertailua Redditissä - Poistettuja mainintoja seksuaalisesta pakottamisesta (kuva) - Mushoku Tensein kääntäjän twiitti - Justin Sevakisin twiitti Seven Seasistä - Kodomo no jikan - Seven Seas perui Kodomo no jikanin julkaisemisen vuonna 2007 - Jakso 31 ja jakso 32, joissa keskustelemme Amazonin myynnistä poistamista ranobeista 01:20:25 – MY HERO ACADEMIAN FANIT KIUSASIVAT SARJAN KÄÄNTÄJÄN POIS TWITTERISTÄ - Caleb Cook - My Hero Academia - Endeavor - Cook laittoi Endeavorin sanomaan “dammit“ kun hän hakkasi vaimoaan ja lastaan (kuva) - Fanit syyttivät Cookia copypaste-virheestä pokkarijulkaisussa - Cook oli ärtynyt sarjaa ennen julkaisupäivää vuotavaa tyyppiä kohtaan (kuva) 01:33:22 – KONISHI-PALKINTO PARHAALLE MANGAN RANSKANKIELISELLE KÄÄNNÖKSELLE - Manga-News: Titres nommés à la quatrième édition du Prix Konishi pour la traduction de manga - Lista ehdokkaista kommentteineen - Vuoden 2021 voittaja: Tokyo Tarareba Girls, josta puhuimme jaksossa 38 Muut ehdokkaat: - Shadows House - Spy x Family - Moi aussi - Girls' Last Tour - Dr. Stone - Bakemonogatari - La Jeunesse de Yoshio - L'appel de Cthulhu - Aria the Masterpiece 01:43:10 – KUULIJAKOMMENTTEJA - Genshiken 01:47:52 – LUKUJONOSSA: RIKI - Riki Tokio.fissä - Riki Gingapediassa - Yoshihiro Takahashi - Dramaattinen kertojanääni (kuva) - Manga Goraku -seinenlehti, jossa Takahashin sarjat nykyään ilmestyvät 02:01:54 – LOPETUS

If you went to public school or played sports growing up in the U.S., you remember fundraisers – the wrapping paper, popcorn, catalogues, etc. We all have these memories. Fundraisers are important to help organizations raise money, but what if we changed the way that we fundraise? What if we made an impact not only for the organizations that we’re raising money for but also the people making the things we are selling? My guest today is Carol Fassino who created Fair Trade Caravans, which provides transparent information about products’ origins, stories behind the artisans and farmers and how the products are priced. 3:14 – Meet Carol Fassino Carol came from a structured world, including public schools and working in the electronics industry. She worked in the corporate world until a few years ago. She never wanted to climb the corporate ladder and had a lucky opportunity to reevaluate what she wanted to do with the second half of her career. She wanted to make a difference. She decided fair trade fundraising was the way to go. 11:15 – How Carol started her company She explored how to start the company online instead of visiting schools one by one. “It is so hard to get past the initial 10 people that love your idea, that are related to you, that are friends with you. You go out there, and you think everyone is going to embrace that idea, and they don’t,” said Carol. 16:14 – Response and feedback The feedback and response to Carol’s business have been great, and her business has grown. 23:25 – A lasting impact It starts with us as adults to teach children how products are made and teach them about fair trade. “We’re trying to make fair trade a global mission through empowering a caring community of doers,” said Carol. 25:17 – How do the fundraisers work? People can set up their fundraiser online with all the products they want, including their logo and how much they want to raise. Carol sends the school a check for 25% of the product sale. The challenge we’ve had is getting the word out and promoting the fundraisers. 27:55 – A diverse product line Carol has a diverse product line, including home decor, jewelry, coffee, tea, etc. Carol sells products between $15 and $40. 31:37 – Get to know Carol Carol is a big reader and reads the newspaper every morning. She also likes lighter fiction and historical fiction. Her favorite song – Total Eclipse of the Heart Her favorite meal – something with a lot of flavor FEATURED QUOTES “It is so hard to get past the initial 10 people that love your idea, that are related to you, that are friends with you. You go out there, and you think everyone is going to embrace that idea, and they don’t.” – Carol “We’re trying to make fair trade a global mission through empowering a caring community of doers.” – Carol https://www.fairtradecaravans.com/

On today's episode, Hayley interviews Carol Hampshire on how to create a soul-aligned brand. Carol is a designer that helps entrepreneurs create a soul-aligned brand.  Carol shares so many valuable tips for building your brand and business in this episode. Join us for a fun conversation about building your brand, entrepreneurship, and creating a magnetic experience.  "I will go out on a in a limb and say it's absolutely guaranteed that if you put your heart and soul into a business, It will be magnetic." -Carol Hampshire P.S. If you enjoyed this episode of the podcast, take a screenshot, head over to Instagram and share it to your IG stories and tag me, @thehayleydavid @empoweredentrepreneurofficial Connect with Carol Carol's Website Carol's Instagram

Caspian and I are joined by our favorite reoccurring guest on the show, Caroline Mills!Eat it up!

When you get down to the nitty gritty your product and your brand - what is your message? Are you "speaking your brand" when you show up in people’s Instagram feeds or email inbox? How does your product speak to them? In this episode, we are joined with Carol Cox of Speaking Your Brand. She is amazing at breaking down how to construct a brand message and making it connect (and memorable) for your customers, as well as investors and wholesale buyers. Connect with Carol: Carol's Podcast "Speaking Your Brand" Speaking Your Brand Website Carol Cox Instagram Carol Cox Twitter Carol's free download with this episode: https://www.speakingyourbrand.com/productboss -- Links mentioned: MilkBliss Support MilkBliss on Kickstarter Dorai Home Skylar Yoo Tropical Shores Popcorn Co. Books: Traction and Get a Grip -- Connect with us on Instagram: @theproductboss  -- Spend the day with us Planning Like a Product Boss. It's a virtual day where Jacqueline and Minna coach you to a Big 30-Day Goal, alongside fellow product business owners. Walk away with a 30-Day Action Plan. Sign up today at: www.theproductboss.com/planning. -- Minna's company Lil' Labels Jacqueline's company Designer Consulting Co-Op  

Carol Perehudoff, also known as Wandering Carol, is a luxury travel blogger. With slightly over 15 years of experience as a travel writer, Carol has had her fair share of fascinating stories and adventures. Through hard work and sticking with it, she has made a career out of her two favorite things — traveling and writing! On today’s show, Carol discusses how she became a travel writer and also offers advice how you can start building a career for yourself… today!   Key Takeaways: *How did Carol get her start traveling? *Are you scared to travel? Take baby steps. It’s a muscle that gets stronger every time you exercise it. *Carol once had to say to her husband, “You know I am a travel writer, did it not once occur to you that I will travel?” His reply was, “No!” *Carol and her husband have been together for over 9 years, so he is more than used to having Carol jet set off alone to exotic locations by this point. *Keep in mind, when Carol’s husband stays home, he isn’t losing out or missing out. In fact, he’s gaining. Everyone needs their alone time. *Where has Carol traveled to that has really made a big impact on her? *Where was Carol in her life when she decided to travel solo? *How did Carol make her career as a solo traveler and also get speaking gigs from it? *Carol is amazed by how technology advances so quickly. When she started, she had to get her worked passed by editors. Now, anyone can start a blog and start writing and traveling, on their own terms. *Why does Carol love the South of France so darn much? *Carol shares her story about meeting this shady/creepy guy in a foreign country and why you need to be alert as a solo woman. Trust your gut instincts! *Despite getting one or two bad vibes from people, Carol has met so many amazing and wonderful people throughout her travels that the bad apples definitely do not ruin the bunch. *When you’re traveling solo, you are dependant on the kindness of strangers. *What’s next for Carol? *Carol is the spa expert. Where in the world should you go to for the ultimate spa experience?   Mentioned in This Episode: Transformviatravel.com Transform via Travel on Facebook @GoSoloLive on Twitter Email: Jennifer@TransformviaTravel.com Patreon.com/gosololive   Connect with Carol: Website Facebook Twitter Instagram   Leave a Review: Did you like this episode? Please leave an honest review on iTunes with your feedback! Also, please subscribe to the Go Solo Live podcast on iTunes, to get notified when a new episode gets released. I appreciate your listening to this week’s show. And tune in next week for another great guest.

Do you follow your "Yes?"Following your "Yes" is about you taking a step forward in your partnerships by taking action and applying at least one thing you heard from our guests during their interviews this week. On today’s episode, all of this week’s guests have generously provided BONUS MATERIAL, not included in the interviews you listened to earlier this week. Each one has provided incredible examples of the power of following your “Yes”.  Enjoy! Carol AllenNot Following - Years ago, Carol was really motivated to find her romantic partner and she would often fall for the “he’s so cute” partners. Like many people, she would go on a date and know in the first 30 minutes if there was anything there, but the “he’s so cute” voice spoke up and that voice would win out. One guy in particular was soooo cute and even though Carol could tell he drank too much, she ended up dating a drunk guy who hated his mother and ultimately hated women. Following - When Carol bumped into her first mentor online he was a total stranger to her and she instantly knew he was who she needed to work with. She had a lot of near misses over the years, but since they never felt so right they never got off the ground. They were missing the certainty and clarity and the power that was required. Listen to Carol's full interview here (https://speakingofpartnership.com/118-carol-allen/) Connect with Carol - Carol's website (http://www.soulmatestars.com) Carol’s Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/Love-Is-In-The-Stars-194561130578829/) FREE E-Book (http://www.rightmanreport.com) Larry MichelNot Following - This story has both emotional and physical ramifications. Larry was in a relationship that was not going well and he was holding it all inside. And on a very cold night he went out and sat at the water’s edge to think. His body was telling him not to do it but he was emotionally so out of it that he did not listen. He ended up getting walking pneumonia and ending up in the hospital. In hindsight Larry realized he was not listening to his body or his emotions even though there were constant signs that he needed to take care of himself physically and emotionally.  The result was it impacted his business and almost killed him because he wasn’t listening to his “Yes.” Following - Anytime Larry has gotten a clear “Yes” and he has followed it, he is always surprised by how far beyond his expectations or his imagination he gets taken. When he allows himself to go in the direction that his body and his emotions and especially his heart is taking him he is always blown away by what comes to be. This can be little things as well as big ones. Listen to Larry's full interview here (https://speakingofpartnership.com/119-larry-michel/) Connect with Larry - Larry's website (http://thefouranswers.com/) The Personal Energetic Profile - FREE Report (http://services.thefouranswers.com/view/personalenergeticprofile/index.php) Larry’s Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/Shinetop) (https://speakingofpartnership.com/120-follow-yes-friday-35/)

Welcome to the Women of Golf Show! Cindy & I speak with LPGA Professional & Legend - Carol Mann. Here's a little about Carol: Carol started playing at the age of 9....Credits her father, Jim Scott & Manuel de la Torre as the individuals who most influenced her careers. Served as President of the LPGA from 74-75; was a member of the Executive Board and Board of Directors; was a key figure in the formation of the modern day LPGA. Join Cindy & I Tuesday morning at 9:00 AM Eeastern atwww.blogtalkradio.com/womenofgolf

Audio File:  Download MP3Transcript: Terry Morreale:  Hi, this is Terry Morreale from the National Centre for Women in Information Technology, or NCWIT. This is part of a series of interviews with fabulous entrepreneurs, with women who have started IT companies in a variety of sectors. All of whom have incredible stories to tell us about being entrepreneurs. With me is Larry Nelson from w3w3.com. Hello Larry, how are you? Larry Nelson:  I'm magnificent and I'm so happy to be here today. At w3w3.com we record all business people from all over the place. We really like to focus in on entrepreneurs. You can listen to this interview and others on w3w3.com. Terry:  Great, thank you. Today we are interviewing an entrepreneur with more than 35 years experience in the startup community. Carol Clark is the co‑founder of "Mind Leaders Inc" and served as the CEO and chair of the board of the company from its formation in 1981, until "Mind Leaders" was acquired in 2007. "Mind Leaders Inc." integrates talent management and e‑learning resources to deliver development solutions from a single platform. Carol currently serves on the board of directors at "Ed Map Inc," "Sia Linden Associates Corp," and "Ecolibrium Solar Inc," on the investment committee for the "Patient Capital Collaborative 13" fund, and on the executive committee of the "Ohio TechAngels Fund." Before we start Carol, tell us a little bit more about your current endeavors. Carol Clark:  What I'm doing now, is I'm an active "Angel" investor. That means that we invest in young companies. I am on the patient collaborative investment committee. That's part of investors circle. We focus on impact investing. The "Ohio TechAngels" group in Ohio, naturally, we focus on medical devices, technology, Ohio company. I'm also a member of Golden Seeds, which is an "Angel" group in New York City. They have chapters on the west coast and in Texas. Two years ago I founded "X Squared Angels" which is a group here in Columbus, very much after "Golden Seeds." We focus on women led companies. Women companies can be anywhere in the country, actually anywhere in the world, because you apply to us from Canada, and it can be in any market. We're just trying to invest in companies that have women in management teams. Being an active angel investor is a lot of work [laughs] . But it's also a lot of fun. You get to meet the investors, you hear all kinds of interesting ideas for companies, and you meet lots and lots of interesting people. That's what I'm doing now. Terry:  Sounds fun. Larry:  Wow, I love it. Terry:  [laughs] Tell us how you first got into technology, Carol? Carol:  I was a math major in college. Way back in the dark ages. When I graduated from college, the large companies would go around and interview at the liberal arts schools. "IBM" was one of the companies that came to interview at Gettysburg College where I graduated. I thought, "well, that sounds like fun, computers," and I wanted to go to New York City anyway. Back then they gave you a programmer's aptitude test. If you passed the test and some series of interviews, then they offered you a job. I started as what was called the system service representative, which ultimately became a systems engineer in one of the Manhattan offices in New York City. I got into computers in the early 60s, really when computers were just starting. Terry:  Wow. Carol:  It was just so much fun. Terry:  That's fantastic. What technologies do you think are cool today? Carol:  I never thought I would say this, but I think "Twitter" is. When "Twitter" first came out, I thought, "this is technology looking for some application. What is anybody going to do with it?" What I think has happened is that "Twitter" is really our news of the world today. Nothing really can happen in the world without somebody knowing it, and somebody sending it through their cell phone over "Twitter". I think "Twitter" is really cool. That would be one thing. The viruses that are popping up all the time are really cool. You write a program and I look at the program, and I say "well, I can get around your program" until I do, and then you look at what I've done and you get around it. This particular thing is what's pushing the programming world today. It certainly doesn't have nice ramifications, but I think it's really cool technology. The third and final thing would be what they're doing with Quantum calculations. Encryption on the web, the World Wide Web, is done with RSA encryption. It basically is just multiplying random numbers together, prime numbers together, and then encrypting them through an algorithm. It's done once each time data is sent. Nobody can break it, because it takes too long to re‑engineer that calculation. What they're doing now is they're using quantum mechanics to calculate in a different way, and they're going to be able to encrypt everything a whole lot faster. I just saw a TV show on it about two weeks ago and I thought it was really cool. They're my three things. Larry:  Wow. We'll have to look that up for sure. Just to switch gears, Carol, a little bit, why are you an entrepreneur? What about entrepreneurship that makes you tick? Carol:  I think people become entrepreneurs because they want to control their own time, control what they do. What you quickly find out is, many people say, "I'd like to become an entrepreneur because I'm my own boss." You're never your own boss. When you're an entrepreneur, your customers are your own boss. I really liked having the customer as my boss because there were very few politics involved in it [laughs] . They either like what you're doing and they pay you money for it, or they don't. It's a very simple, nice relationship. I thought I would be an entrepreneur because you can control your own time, you can create what you want and make it as good as you want it, but what I really found that I liked was the fact that you're working for your customers. They're leading the way. I liked that a lot. Larry:  With that kind of comment about the time, that you mentioned, you ought to teach a class on time management. [laughter] Carol:  I would probably make people crazy. I already make my husband crazy with my time management. [laughter] Terry:  Carol, tell us who influenced or supported you to take this career path? Role models, mentors, people like that? Carol:  I gave this one a little bit of thought. I would put my parents first. They really provide the unconditional love, self confidence, and they say you can do whatever you want. My mother did that. My father also did that. My father would say, "I don't have a clue what you're doing with these computers, I don't understand it. I don't know what it is, but I'm all for it" [laughs] . He built ships, so he had physical things that he created, and for me to go into software was really hard for him to understand. Nevertheless, he supported it and was the cheering section all along the way. Then I would have to say that my husband was there the whole time and said, "just go do it. If you think it's the right thing to do, go do it." Terry:  That's great. Larry:  Wow. With all the different things you've been through, you've got such a fabulous background. Along the way you've had a lot of interesting things happen. What are the toughest things that you've had to do in your career? Carol:  One of the toughest things you have to learn, maybe two things. One is, don't take yourself seriously. Really, nobody's watching. If you fall on your face, nobody's paying any attention. You might feel silly, but I think the first thing is you can't take yourself too seriously. It takes a while to learn that. That would be number one. The second thing is, if you're going to lead, and if you're an entrepreneur you are going to lead, the first thing you have to remember about leadership is you have to make sure people are following [laughs] . You could have the best idea in the world, but if nobody agrees with you or nobody will come with you, you're not going to get very far. You have to keep looking over your shoulder to make sure that those people that are every bit as important, maybe more important than you are to the success of the company, are right there with you. Those are the two toughest things to learn. Larry:  Yes. Terry:  Indeed, in life and in entrepreneurship [laughs] . Carol:  Right [laughs] . Terry:  If you were sitting here with a young person today and giving them advice about entrepreneurship, what advice would you give them? Carol:  I actually do a fair amount of counseling with people of all ages, but many young people. The first thing I say is, "Is there a market for this product? Is there a large market for it? 500 million or larger?" Because when you start out with this product, you're only going to get a little teeny tiny piece of the market. The market has to be big enough for you to make money doing this. Number one is the market. Number two is the product. You might think you have the coolest technology in the world, but if nobody's going to pay you for it, you don't have a business. Talk to those potential customers and find out whether they're interested in buying what it is you want to sell. That would be number two. The third one is, you absolutely need to understand the financial statements. You can't go anywhere without understanding the financial statements. If I say to you as a potential entrepreneur, "OK, give me three years of projections month by month, and make a list of the assumptions that you're making about this business," and you can't do that or you don't want to do that, you're going to really have a difficult time. You have to understand the numbers. You never should run out of cash. The final thing is you need to understand your own limitations. You need to know what you don't know and go hire it, or find someone who will do those things for you. Those would be the four things. Make you've got a big, big market for this. Make somebody will pay money for this product, understand the numbers, find out what your limitations are, and get a team around you that can make up for your limitations. Terry:  That is wonderful advice. Thank you, Carol. Larry:  Excellent. Maybe I shouldn't even ask this question. It just seems natural with everything you've said so far. What personal characteristics do you think you have, that have given you the advantage as an entrepreneur? Carol:  The first one if a sense of humor. [laughter] Carol:  I really do. You're going to do things wrong, you're going to do stupid things. You're going to say stupid things. You just have to laugh about it. It's not the end of the world, you're still you. You pick yourself up and you go forward. That is probably the first one. The next is hiring good people. Those are the only two things. You need to be able to hire people that complement who you are and what you want to do. You're going to make mistakes there too. I guess the rule is hire slowly and fire quickly. I think that's true. Terry:  Carol, what do you do to bring balance into your personal and professional lives? Carol:  I think it's a gift, but I really can turn off the professional piece. I do have four children. They're all grown, of course. Certainly, you have to be able to turn off your professional life when you're raising a family. My husband and I love to travel, so we travel. I love to ride my bike. I go out on the roads or the trails. I'm not fast. I just mosey along, stop and talk to people or stop and look at flowers or insects or trees, or whatever happens to interest me. That just as peaceful. It is pure joy. You need to have interests other than professional or you make yourself crazy, and you need to be able to turn them off. Larry:  Absolutely. Carol, you've already achieved a great deal. We'll make sure that we have all those links and ideas and stuff up on the home pages and so on. What's next for you? Carol:  I think I'm going to remain an active "Angel" investor. I really do enjoy that. I love, as I said, meeting entrepreneurs, hearing the new ideas, staying current with the technology. I think that's going to be what I do for the next little while. After that, I don't know [laughs] . We'll see what presents itself. Larry:  We'll follow you, so we'll know. Terry:  Absolutely [laughs] . Carol:  Just so you don't stalk me, that's all right. Terry:  We'll follow you on twitter, how about that? Carol:  [laughs] There's a thought. Terry:  Carol, this has been an absolute pleasure, getting a chance to chat with you, getting a chance to know you a little bit better and learn from you. You gave some fantastic tips for our listeners. We look forward to sharing them with our entire NCWIT community, and with the w3w3.com community as well. Larry:  Over the years, my wife and I, we've started 12 different companies, I wish we had know you back then. Carol, thanks. Your advice was absolutely super. Thank you. Carol:  Thank you, my pleasure. Terry:  Have a great afternoon. Carol:  OK. Bye bye. Series: Entrepreneurial HeroesInterviewee: Carol ClarkInterview Summary: Carol Clark, co-founder of MindLeaders Inc., www.mindleaders.com, served as CEO/Chair of the Board of the company from its formation in 1981 until MindLeaders was acquired in 2007. Carol has more than 35 years of management experience as well as an extensive background in computer programming, software development and education. Carol currently serves on the Board of Directors of EdMap Inc., Sealund and Associates Corp. and Ecolibrium Solar Inc.; on the Investment Committee for the Patient Capital Collaborative ’13 Fund; and on the Executive Committee of the Ohio TechAngels Funds. "When you're an entrepreneur, your customers are your own boss. I really liked having the customer as my boss because there were very few politics involved in it." said Carol about what it means to be an entrepreneur. "They either like what you're doing and they pay you money for it, or they don't. It's a very simple, nice relationship."  Release Date: November 19, 2014Interviewer(s): Terry Morreale and Larry NelsonDuration: 15:10