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The newest live-action show hits our screens and with it comes a new weekly show – welcome to episode 1 of the Ahsoka discussion shows! This week is the 2-episode premiere and joining your host Mike is the podfather of Comics In Motion; Dave Horrocks! Join our duo discussing how much the Ahsoka show links to Star Wars Rebels (& not so much Clone Wars at present) as well as the new characters, more of Ahsoka's on-screen portrayal by Rosario Dawson, the action scenes, the lore, the timeline and where they think the show is going! Watch the video version here: https://youtu.be/B_IlnJC3IqY In case you you haven't already, make sure you listen back to the five episodes of Rebels Reviewed, where Dave, Maff & Mike talk about each season of Star Wars Rebels as they prepared for Ahsoka! Subscribe to the podcast feed of Comics In Motion & youtube.com/GenuineChitChat! Mike & Dave spoke about the Tales Of The Jedi animated series, featuring more Ahsoka: ⁠⁠⁠https://pod.fo/e/152525⁠⁠⁠   For more Ahsoka-related content, check out; Mike speaking with Thomas Rochester of Reckless Rebellion to talk about the 3 Thrawn book trilogies: ⁠⁠https://pod.fo/e/1df29c⁠⁠ Mike also appeared on Star Wars Timeline to talk about Ahsoka: ⁠⁠https://youtu.be/-qo3tVHyC1U⁠⁠  You can find Dave on Twitter @SeattleDojos or listen to him guesting on various Comics In Motion shows, as well as on the VHS Strikes Back: ⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/vhsstrikesback⁠⁠⁠ and Chris & Dave's Reality TV Cast: ⁠⁠⁠https://anchor.fm/cdrealitycast⁠⁠⁠  Mike hosts Star Wars: Comics In Canon every week on Comics In Motion & YouTube and you can find all of Mike's podcast shows & social media details here: ⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/GenuineChitChat⁠⁠⁠   Make sure you rate/review and send Mike the screenshot, so he can send you some free bonus content of your choice (including reviews/overviews of the canon Thrawn novels) - send via social media or to GenuineChitChat@outlook.com! To support Mike, you can rate/review the show on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & other podcast apps, you can share the show or support financially. You can give a one-off payment/donation at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ko-fi.com/genuinechitchat⁠⁠⁠  or you can subscribe monthly at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://Patreon.com/GenuineChitChat⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - either option will give you access to the exclusive “Afterthoughts” episodes. Patreons get access to weekly episodes plus every past episode (even when paying £1 a month) while Ko-fi tippers will be able to choose some episodes, depending on how much they give - any and all support of this nature is hugely appreciated! Find us on social media at @ComicsInMotionP or email us at comicsinmotionpodcast@gmail.com! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/comics-in-motion-podcast/message

Grant reacts to the Brewers taking 2 of 3 from the Orioles and let's the Luis Urias discourse get out of hand. Dave questions Cone Roller's patriotism, and "Mike Clemens" joins the show to recap OTAs.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Our two month hiatus is finally over as we resume operations with episode 48 of the podcast. This one has a lot of catching up with both Mike and Dave:Mike covers a number of bills going through the House while Dave discusses his new business venture. Both chat about their trip down to Orlando for spring break.Thank you for your patience and for being dedicated listeners to our show! We have some exciting stuff planned for the coming weeks and months. Enjoy today's episode!

As 2023 brings a fresh new year of Star Wars content, a Padawan, a Jedi & a Master go into the archives to bring you their thoughts on the animated show Star Wars: Rebels (found on Disney+)!   This episode serves as an introduction to our hosts and the show; Maff, Dave & Mike talk about their first experiences with Rebels, how season 1 compares to other SW content, their first impressions, favourite characters, stand-out moments, familiar faces and so much more – this is the perfect show to watch after delving into the first season of Rebels as there are no spoilers for subsequent episodes!   You can listen to this on any podcast app, or watch the video version at https://youtube.com/genuinechitchat!   Maff is @MaffUK78 on Twitter and has appeared on the weekly discussion shows for Andor and The Last of Us, as well as on the Villains Super Draft: https://pod.fo/e/15d0b5 - A Dummies Guide To Geekdom, talking Dungeons & Dragons: https://pod.fo/e/1644e9 - and is on Spider-Dan's bear-filled Grizzly/Prophecy episode: https://pod.fo/e/16274d   You can find Dave on Twitter @SeattleDojos or listen to him guesting on various Comics In Motion shows, as well as on the VHS Strikes Back: https://linktr.ee/vhsstrikesback and Chris & Dave's Reality TV Cast: https://anchor.fm/cdrealitycast   Mike & Dave spoke about the Tales Of The Jedi animated series here: https://pod.fo/e/152525   Mike was on Stevie B's YouTube to talk Star Wars: https://youtu.be/McbWHBMZQxM   And Mike was on Ike's Flame podcast to talk about Phase 1 of The High Republic: https://pod.fo/e/143ce4   Mike hosts Star Wars: Comics In Canon every week on Comics In Motion & YouTube and you can find all of Mike's podcast shows & social media details here: https://linktr.ee/GenuineChitChat    If you want to hear more from Mike, consider going to http://patreon.com/genuinechitchat, where he has released several exclusive Star Wars Legends book reviews & overviews AND he releases at least 1 episode of “Afterthoughts” is released each week, with over 130 in the back-catalogue, the majority are Megan & Mike's reviews with some solo book reviews from Mike, plus there are unsplit full-length episodes of his Genuine Chit-Chat podcast and more!   To hear to a free Patreon episode, check out the first in Mike & Megan's Tom Hanks watch here: https://bit.ly/TomHanks1  Instagram – Twitter – Facebook – YouTube – Stitcher – Podbean – Spotify

This week we're exploring the fascinating and controversial topic of flat earth theory....again. This ancient belief, once relegated to the fringes of society, has seen a resurgence in recent years thanks to the power of the internet and social media. On this episode, we'll take a deep dive into the history of the flat earth movement and examine the arguments made by its supporters.  We'll explore the evidence (or lack thereof) supporting the idea that the earth is not a globe, but rather a flat, disc-shaped plane. Whether you're a believer or a skeptic, you won't want to miss this revisit. Join us as we challenge our assumptions about the world around us and explore the flat earth phenomenon. Did we change our minds? *Intro sound clip features comedian Dan Cummins If you have any questions or topics you'd like to see the society cover, please reach out at Contact@hushhushsociety.com   You can find all our audio, blogs and drop sweet ratings at www.hushhushsociety.com Find our Video Content on our Rokfin Leave us a review on Apple, our website, Podchaser or GoodPods You can grab Hush Hush merch and help support the show on Patreon Link up with the society on social media:   Facebook   Instagram   Twitter    Join our Discord and chat with us   TRANSCRIPT Flat Earth 2   [00:01:00]  Dave: Greetings, Hushlings. Welcome back to the Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour. Mike: Where we journey into the world of conspiratorial mysteries and dark truths Dave: I'm Declassified Dave Mike: and I'm Mystery Mike and as though is we're joined by our fellow globetard Slick Fronk Sanders. Fronk: The Earth is probably round how you doing? Dave: it's going. Are things going around today? Mike: Quick question flat Earthers. How do boomerangs work on your flat plane? Fronk: Boomerangs are flat.  Dave: that got him. If you didn't notice today, we returned to the great debate in this episode. Is the Earth round? Is the Earth flat? Fronk: Hushling's, uh, in case you weren't [00:02:00] aware, we visited this topic in season three and completely shat all over the flat plane and we believe we should revisit this mother of all modern conspiracies, seeing as though it's such a big part of conspiracy culture. Dave: it's getting even bigger, even though you guys probably most definitely are gonna take a second dumping in this one. Mike: not as bad as the first. Dave: Not  Fronk: Yeah. We'll see. We'll see. Mike: we've discussed how there are different phases to being a flat earther. I'm guess I'm still in stage zero and we were in stage one in May of 2021. let's go up around to stage two But before we search for the horizon and fall off the flat plane and search for God in the sky under the spotlight sun, you can always find us on our social medias, Facebook, [00:03:00] Instagram, and Twitter Dave: You can also find everything hush hush society on our website, www.hushhushsociety.com. From episodes to links to merchandise, and the ability to drop a review or leave us a voicemail. We hope we get some after this episode. Mike: Hmm. Please do. Dave: Yeah. Fronk: And we keep mentioning that we are now also a video podcast. You can not only. To us, but you can watch us, you can see our faces. You can get that expressional action that you might not get from just an audio recording. And to find those episodes, you just gotta go to Rock Fin. It's, it's very simple. Rock fin.com. There's even an app. And in the search bar you just put in Hush Hush Society. You'll find us nice and easy. And there you can find all of our videos. you hit the notification button. You get notifications when our videos come out. Check it out. Mike: And just one last thing before we move on to the flat plane, we just [00:04:00] want to give a quick shout out to our newest patron, Gabrielle May. Thank you so much. We appreciate you. Fronk: Just in case you're new to this, we're gonna do a quick little recap for you on what Flat Earth theory is, and essentially, in a nutshell, the earth is flat rather than round. Pretty self explanatory, although it's made its appearance throughout history. The theory gained popularity around 2009 and has continued to grow ever since. Dave: It is regarded as one of the most controversial conspiracy theories in existence. Why claim that our earth is flat and not a globe easy? That's because it looks flat and feels flat and is surrounded by 200 feet of ice blocking us from traversing across an infinite plane or falling off the edge. Sounds correct, right? Fronk: I mean, yeah, that's what I've been made to believe. That's that's what it seems like Mike: Yeah. Riding on the back of a turtle through the cosmos, but the cosmos [00:05:00] doesn't exist, so where's the turtle going? Anyways,  according to believers, NASA and the ruling elite protect the ice walls from people attempting to climb over and fall from the disc. Can't make it up. They also believe that earth's gravity is an illusion, and that objects are driven up by a mysterious force called dark energy, rather than spinning and being stuck to a surface, Fronk: But on the other hand, there are countless photographs, videos, and images from astronauts and the International Space Station that kind of seem like evidence to show that the Earth is round. But these are not considered real evidence and are allegedly faked by the government or the ruling elites Dave: Now before we move on, flat, earthers already pissed off at our description in the beginning, Fronk: probably. Dave: we wanted to pull you in, but we'll make it as [00:06:00] fair as possible with some of the talking points that we're going to go over.  Now, Hushlings, there is the flat Earth Society as well as thousands of others from around the globe in groups. In addition to independent researchers, even though there is evidence to contradict some of these arguments, they are dismissed as fabrications of around earth conspiracy, along with stars, planets, galaxies, space, and gravity, all being a part of the facade of where we live. Mike: That is my biggest thing when it comes down to a debate between a flat earth and someone who believes that we live on a globe, is that it always results. In a flat earth are saying, well, that's what you've been told. You've been lied to. You're believing a lie that's being told to you, which is the old faithful of all conspiracy theorists, is that you're being lied to. That's all well and good, but at what point do you turn around and say, the [00:07:00] science is being lied to you. Nasa, we know lies to us. We know they fabricate images. We know what they do. But again, that's more of an argument that NASA is filled with bunch of liars. But at what point do you look at it maybe there is evidence that it's a globe or maybe there is evidence that it's a flat plane. There has to be a certain cutoff point where you stop saying, well, you're being lied to. That's what they want you to believe. That's what they're fabricating the science. They're fabricating this. They're fabricating that. How, and this has always been my issue, how do you talk to a flat earth and say, what piece of evidence would it take for you to say that it's a globe Dave: Pictures. Mike: pictures? , but then you show them a picture of this is what our earth looks like. It's a globe. Or you show them video or you show them anything. Well, that's been fabricated. It's always like this deniability to go against what they believe in. Like you, you have to deny [00:08:00] it. You have to deny it because it shakes the entire foundation of what their belief system is, especially when it comes to a flat earth. But then they always revert back to, that's what the Bible says. That's what the Bible says. I'm sorry, we, we've been over the Bible many times. We all know that it's been changed a thousand times and it's a book.  Fronk: not only that, but that's what they're making the Bible say. That's what certain people are interpreting the bible to say, and you can make the Bible say a lot of different things depending on how you decide to interpret it as a person. And if you're interpreting it as, they're telling me about the flat earth and so be it, Dave: This episode is gonna focus a little bit more heavily on some of the things that Mike and Fronk just mentioned, talking about NASA and the why would they lie and why would they fake and indoctrinated us as kids to believe that it's a ball. , and these are major [00:09:00] talking points that I've learned over the last year and a half since we've done this, other than just the physical evidence. We have the physical evidence if you're going to go by the, mainstream. we'll go through a bunch of stuff. I think we'll talk about religion too. So Mike, save those nails, buddy. Mike: We'll look into some of what we just listed and more throughout this episode, and it strongly suggested you listen to our first crack at this crust to understand where some of the historical beliefs come from and a lot of other things about this theory, mainly the science. But let's give this another oscillation, shall we? We're gonna literally hit some of the proposed theories and then firmly spit some facts. be prepared to, uh, confirm or deny your belief. Fronk: Before we completely dive into the flat plane, we're gonna talk about the planet as we've been taught in a traditional sense. Our Native [00:10:00] Earth is a terrestrial rocky planet, correct? Yes or no? I mean, whether it's flat around truth,  It has a dynamic and active surface with mountains, valley, canyons, you name it. All the different geographical structures and a variety of other features. It has water covering 70% of its surface, as well as harboring thousands of life forms, and it has a unique orbiting satellite arm. Dave: it has a circumference. Remember this number Hushlings 24,901 miles. And it shares our solar system with eight, sorry, Pluto, eight other planets and is rotating at around thousand miles an hour while orbiting our home star. Now this is where flat Earthers start to deny our existence on a spinning ball. we're orbiting around our sun at 67,000 miles an hour, all while zipping around the center of the Milky Way, roughly at [00:11:00] around 490,000 miles an hour. And the biggest claim, you can't feel it.   Mike: Well, that's just what we're taught in school. Unfortunately, most of us didn't escape the clutches of the Rockefeller Education System. There's that name again. Yep. He created the General Education Board in 1902 at the cost of 129 million. It's a lot of money back in 1902. It's a lot of money today and provided major funding for schools across the nation and was very influential in shaping the school system. Also, he's quoted as saying, I don't want a nation of thinkers. I want a nation of workers. Sounds like my pause. Fronk: And that speaks some deep truth because school does indoctrinate the nation into the trap of society. Once you hit like 10th grade, you're already filling out college applications, colleges that you're gonna be in debt to for the rest of your life, that you're gonna have to work for the majority of [00:12:00] your life to pay off for that job that you'll be working for the rest of your life. And it's this endless cycle. So that's definitely perpetuated by some global elitist. I get that to an extent, maybe the indoctrination portion of it. Dave: Well, from the beginning. Which classroom have you ever been in that didn't have a globe?    Fronk: In 1928, John D Rockefeller Jr. Financed an expedition to the South Pole as a British secret service. Agent Rockefeller knew perfectly that no South Pole existed, but people were curious about the true shape of the world. From 1956 onward, Antarctica was completely controlled by the Pentagon. Hence the Antarctic Treaty. And anybody visiting this chunk of land without permission was shot on site. Admiral by who we've talked about extensively, died mysteriously in 1957 and perhaps had a timely demise before he could tell the truth about what the South Pole. Mike: When it comes to the[00:13:00] Antarctic treaty and being shot on sight, who is shooting these people on sight? Fronk: Snow snipers. Those drones from Star Wars that landed on Hoth Mike: , that's a lot of land to patrol in order to watch for people.  Dave: remember. Antarctica is 5.2 million square miles as well. Mike: That's what doesn't make sense to me. You're gonna be shot on sight and that's another part of the Antarctic treaty that I also don't understand. Who is physically stopping you from going there? The only thing that's physically stopping you from going to Antarctica is it costs a lot of money. To either charter a boat that would go there. most people don't go there. Most charter boats don't go there. You could do a flyover, but that's only partial. Who is physically stopping you besides your bank account? Dave: I did see a video recently of some guys on a boat that were stopped. I think they were stopped by the New Zealand Navy [00:14:00] or the Australian Navy, and they were turning him around and you can see like. Ice in the distance or something like that. And I don't know if there was just like an iceberg that was out there that they were near, but the allegations on TikTok was got turned around at the bottom of the world, cause I believe it's, there's some degree, and I'm gonna sound uneducated saying this, but I don't know the degree, I think, but there's some degree at the bottom of the world. That you can't go. But the Antarctic treaty, it contradicts itself because the Antarctic treaty was supposed to be a demilitarized zone. No military stuff. No commercial, nothing. It was supposed to be strictly for research. Fronk: So why is the Navy there? Of who? New Zealand? Dave: It was either New Zealand or Australia Fronk: So what is the New Zealand or Australian Navy doing there? Dave: Well, they're close to Antarctica Fronk: Yeah, but isn't a non-military zone. Dave: But there's only military scientists maybe not all military scientists. You got like, Noah [00:15:00] scientists and stuff, and I'm sure NASA is down there, the Nazis, they're all down there. You know, you  got everybody. Antarctica looks like a continent to me, and there's a lot of pictures of it. And are they fake? I am. I'm not on the plane, so I don't know. . Why would it matter and why would they lie? The largest argument of why these elites would lie to us is most likely there's more land, more resources, maybe even unlimited resource. And lands beyond the ice shelf or walls, as well as the suppression of how powerful of beings we are, which can kind of be a different argument that has nothing to do with flat earth as well. thoughts on that? Fronk: I could get behind both of those points to an extent in the shoes of a flat Earth, for example. Yes. If you told me that there was unlimited resources, we're talking oil, we're talking the purest water in the world. We're talking minerals that are used to power the world's [00:16:00] electronics, whatever, energy generating methods that we might have unlimited supply of that which would completely destroy not only the US dollar, but the world economy, which is what the alleged elites thrive off of. And if it's not money that they thrive off of it is leaching our fucking energy. And we've talked about that a lot. And if we were to unlock some sort of crazy. Secret about ourselves or humanity as a whole. That might be incredibly enlightening to a lot of people or disturbing. I could see it going either way, but if, if a bunch of people woke up and they were incredibly enlightened, that could be bad for the reptilian negative energy blood suckers. Dave: I don't think it would go well for anybody. I think we always do ask this question a lot when we talk about this as is, would it change our everyday lives? And we usually say no, but it would, because we [00:17:00] probably have a massive economic shutdown. religions would collapse. There'd probably be some type of total anarchy that would happen and then we'd have our own epiphanies of being like, not really upset that I was wrong, but shit I was lied to as well, part of the Doy group. And that would be a shitty day. would it end everything for me? No, it would change everything for sure. But I think the unlimited resources part, I could see somebody hiding that, , we did talk about Admiral Byrd and Admiral Byrd went through, supposedly into the hollow earth, could he have misinterpreted and gone through a crack and found more land. Who knows? In the writing The Iron Republic, written by EW Barrington and published also in 1902, another one of that year with the education system. It was published in Florida Magazine, and it said that an explorer went through a crack in the ice walls and found an advanced civilization after being lost for over a month at sea. So that [00:18:00] means he went through the ice walls and there was more ocean,  Mike: Have there ever been any, any pictures or video of the ice wall or beyond it? Fronk: Uh, people take pictures of. Ice shelves and try to say that they're the ice walls, but at the same time, those could very well just be ice shelves or very large icebergs Mike: Makes sense. Makes sense.  Dave: I wanna see a flight going around the whole whatever, 76,000 miles it's supposed to actually be. Just banking around the whole rim. But you can't go there because the military will shoot you down in a de militarized. Mike: I still think that there's plenty of ways to get there. And we talked, who do we talk with? That had went to Antarctica? Was it Mark Fronk: on a cruise with like their father. Yeah. Mark O'Connell. Yeah. Dave: Yep. Mike: O'Connell said that , he went to Antarctica with his family. Dave: San Diego Padre's pitcher's there right now.  Fronk: Yeah, but he, he also mentioned that it was like the only [00:19:00] part of Antarctica that they'll let a civilian on and it's like this tiny little peninsula and they've got the little, novelty pole.  Like you could go up and touch it and take a picture with it. Yeah. And they got little stuff, penguins and shit. Dave: could it just be a simple explanation why we don't bring people there? One, you'll die  Fronk: , yes, it's very extreme terrain, there's tons of extreme terrain that we're allowed to go to that you would probably die in if you weren't very well equipped. Mike: Yeah, it makes sense that the only reason that they would be stopping people from going there, besides the massive, endless amounts of resources that they're hoarding from us, would be that they just don't want people going out there and fucking dying.  This brings up another allegation that even the word extraterrestrial means extra terra or more land. Trying to hold some weight to the notion this has been taught to us. We see in the film The Next Level by David Weiss. [00:20:00] He meets with an older woman named Ruth. She's 102, God bless her, from Connecticut, who was in tears claiming that she was taught flat Earth in school, in Hamden, Connecticut, and now feels vindicated and better because of his truths. Dave: she was like, lost it. Mike: like real, real emotional about it. Dave: Yeah. Really emotional about it Mike: Okay. We just mentioned the Rockefeller education system and him saying that he doesn't want a nation of thinkers. He wants a nation of workers. , in the 1920s, if she was taught that the earth was flat, She would've been learning from that education system. Dave: True. Yeah, but I don't think that there's actually, I've looked and looked and looked and couldn't find any definitive evidence that was saying that they actually taught that in schools. Because even in 2022 curriculums across the country are not the same, even across the [00:21:00] same states, depending on the size of your state, they're not the same, especially when you get to advanced levels like college professors are teaching what they want within that curriculum, How in 1920 were they all taught the same thing when there was still tons and tons and tons, tons of schools. , that's the thing that gets me,  she's 102. Could she have just been like, yeah, I saw that once and she saw it on a cartoon in the seventies while she was in her sixties,  Fronk: nonetheless, I do find it difficult to wrap my head around because it was David Weiss who did that interview or whatever, and he brings up a lot of stuff about flat Earth. I listen to a bunch of his talks and shows that he went on to and whatnot, and he brings up all of these points and , he tells people to just, look into it. You gotta look into it yourself. You gotta do your research. , you go to do this research and obviously if you're looking into stuff like this, you're not going to [00:22:00] Google. You're not using Bing, like the go to search engine for anything that you can't find is duck, duck go. And he's been saying that Duck, duck go is starting to censor things of this nature. So, like Dave, I went looking for what the global education was like in the 1910s, the 1920s, and. Again, like you said, no definitive proof. Is it a censorship thing or is it the fact that it was just not taught as flat in the 1920s? Dave: There's also allegations that say that, it was the thirties and even in the sixties through certain education systems. , I almost bought David Weiss's app now. David had contacted us and let us know how he thought about us. I think in the next level, , it almost looks like somebody's trying to sell something and maybe this woman really did feel vindicated Ruth if she's still alive or not. but I don't know, check out the next level. It's an interesting take on flat earth and [00:23:00] there's a bunch of other proponents that I'd never even heard of that have some interesting talking points. Mike: my beef when it comes to David is he did reach out to us. He reached out to us a couple times, especially after our flat Earth episode. And essentially just berated us through email it's the usual argument that I, especially for some odd reason am on the receiving end of arguments with flat earthers is just yelling and anger and just being pissed off consistently. and he was not too happy, as Dave said with how we covered it in our talking points. He said, oh, it's the same talking points. Well, it's the same talking points with flat Earthers too. you talk about the Bible, you talk about nasa, you talk about, it's like, it's, it's the same talking points because we're talking about the same fucking topic.  Of course we're gonna have our sides to it and of, and flat earthers are gonna have their sides to it. It's just the way that it is. That's how you have constructive. [00:24:00] Conversations that go back and forth with conflicting beliefs. Dave: I feel like it's a lot of frustration that , you're just not getting it. Fronk: I feel like he rails Coke and like smashes Globes in his free time, like buys globes from Goodwill and just fucking destroys them in the parking lot and then drives home  Dave: beats them with Louisville slugs. Just smack. Smack.  Mike: I can't wait for our next email correspondence after this one. Fronk: dude. It's not gonna be an email. It's gonna be a voice message and he is gonna be all fucking jacked up out of his mind.    Dave: Before we move on to like the major talking points we gotta talk about what Mike mentioned earlier where a lot of the stuff that is talked about goes back to biblical cosmology and creationism.  Mike: Yeah. And that's always been my biggest talking point with discussions with flat Earthers is explain it to me I will give you my counterpoints and you'll give me your points and we can go [00:25:00] back and forth, but complete your, persuasion of trying to make me see that it's a flat plane. Complete your argument without using the Bible. Every single fucking time. Every single time it ends in, well, it says this in the Bible and it says this, it always ends up being that let's put it this way. I've never met a flat earth that wasn't also at the same time a Bible thumper. Dave: I've met two types. I feel like there are conflicting points to, flat earthers even they step on each other's toes a little bit. They might not, not get along, but I think there are some folks that definitely don't believe in the biblical cosmology and it's just a physical thing. But every time you go back to, if it's a physical thing, that's a structure that's not a planet. It brings me to the question, even a non-religious person. It brings me to the question, well then we're talking about who created it, [00:26:00] not just the science of planets and, gas and particles coming together for, from a accretion. We're talking a whole different thing. Now. We're talking about, well, if it's a structure , and this is not what we think it is and this is not what I think it is, then it had to have been manufactured structure. We build structures. using that type of verbiage, brings even me to being like, , now we're in the religious realm or the faith realm. Fronk: You want me to blow your mind right now? you know what's easier than creating a whole universe writing fucking lines of code. Bam, bam.  Mike: Yeah, there it is. There it is. We should just bring all arguments of flat earth back to simulation theory. Fronk: That's where I, that, yeah. Prove to me that it's even physical and then maybe I'll consider whether, the shape is round or flat. Dave: Let's talk about curves. Fronk: Right. All right. Let's talk about the voluminous crevices and curves that our mother Earth provides. Right. The idea of a flat [00:27:00] earth stems from a number of viewpoints, and the most fundamental is to rely on one's own sense, to determine the true nature of one's surroundings. The world appears flat. Clouds, bottoms look like they're flat. Water looks like it's flat, and the sun moves. The stars are always the same positioned exactly how they always were, and all of these sensory cues indicate that we do, in fact, live on a flat. Dave: I'm not an astrophysicist and I'm not a  Fronk: Are you  sure?  Dave: Maybe, maybe, maybe in my other existence, the 500 of 'em. I'm a failed astrophysicist, but I do have a telescope and I've had it for quite some time and I'm pretty good with it. And it's Fronk: the fuck? Dave: eh, the stars not moving. I know that there's a difference between absolute, uh, motion. A difference between [00:28:00] relative motion, and I'm pretty sure that the way that the stars move, but their whole argument is, is that since everything's spinning at astronomical speeds every night, we would see different stars because we're just whipping around and seeing different things. So why are the stars the same? And it does get you thinking, well, why are the stars the same? Well, I'm not a professional astronomer, so I can't really explain that. But I would say it has something to do with relative motion where everything's moving in conjunction instead of just this vortex of insane speeds..  Fronk: In my peanut globetard brain, I'm more so thinking the speed of light and how long it actually takes for the light from the stars that we're seeing to travel here. I mean, yeah, we've been seeing the same stars for thousands and thousands and thousands of years, but at what point were those stars emitting that light? How long have those stars been dead for, and how long is it gonna take for us to see new stars again? [00:29:00] I can't answer any of those questions for you, but I'm pretty sure that's. Dave: Valid point. Mike: Also in the grand scheme of time, humanity has been around a fucking blink in universal time. again to Fronk's point here, we're seeing the same stars because we're living 80 years and that's it. As opposed to the billions and billions and billions of years that the universe has existed and that that light has traveled and those stars have either been born, exploded, died, and disappeared. , we're seeing nothing, nothing. Dave: Well, that goes back to you being an insignificant being and that being suppressed. There's that argument. We'll have that later. We'll fight about it. Mike: there, there won't be an argument. We are insignificant beings.  Even if you took it back to a creationist argument, we are fucking insignificant. We are insignificant, we're [00:30:00] nothing. If we were something we would still commune with Gods, we would still commune with universal spirits. We would be. Something more than fucking meat sacks traveling through the world going, oh, I wonder what job I'm gonna have next, that I'm gonna work fucking 40 hours a week at and pull in a menial salary and take care of my 5.2 fucking kids, and then eventually retire at the ripe old age of 70 years old. And that's my life. How special am I Dave: Well, that's the system that you're locked in. Mike: system or not? Even if I had no job, even if I was just wandering, enjoying my life, going to these wonderful, exotic places, just doing everything that I wanted to do. At the end of it all 70 to 80 years, that's what I get. That's fucking it. in those 70 to 80 years, when am I seeing God? When am I [00:31:00] seeing a hint of any extraterrestrial, any, any extra dimensional, any religious, fucking spiritual guide? Anything. Anything.  when I'm not, fucked up on drugs, Dave: psychedelics. Fronk: God tier moment. Mike goes, have you ever given an ant food? Throw that bitch in there.  Dave: A lot of people see that as negative, and I don't really see it as negative that we're that insignificant. It's kind of the same argument that I make about the flight paths, which we'll quickly touch on is, well, the, the plane has to keep dipping down to keep going. Have you seen how small a plane is to how big the earth is? Mike: That's one thing that they don't understand is fucking perspective. You don't understand  perspective.  Dave: I'm glad you brought that up because what Frankie said a couple minutes ago about viewpoints perspective, seeing, if the clouds appear flat, water is flat, that's called using an empirical approach or an approach that relies on information [00:32:00] on your senses.  What's your feeble little human garbage eyes can see? And if you can't see the curve, then it doesn't exist. They use mathematics. I am. Stupid with math. The math is if the earth is round, there should be a degree of curvature, eight inches per mile squared. one mile would be eight inches, two miles, 32 inches, three miles, 72 inches, four miles, 128, and so on.  128 inches is about 10 feet of curvature. So that would be, four miles away now? 10 feet. A considerable amount when you're looking at a boat on. Water the water line to the top, say, let's say an aircraft carrier is probably 60 to 90 feet. You'd have to be at least around 20 miles to not just see the flight deck of that ship going over the horizon.  Then you got the whole, you got the bridge, you got everything else. You got all the radar you're probably looking at 120 feet at least to the top of, all of the structures on that ship. How many miles is that? . That's the thing. Another thing with the insignificance is [00:33:00] that we're tiny as fuck. Like how can we see anything? If you're five foot 10 and you're looking at something how far are you actually gonna see Mike: but what about the Zoom, Dave? What about the Zoom? Some of those cameras, they can zoom way, way, way, way in. They take those cameras and they zoom, zoom, zoom, and they go, well, that city is 150 miles away. There's no way that I should see it because of this curvature. And this camera is picking it up perfectly. So how do they work? Dave: I think they use the Chicago skyline for example. And I didn't do the experiment and look on Google Maps , and see the different distances, but you gotta remember the Sears Tower, whatever the fuck it's called now, it's like well over a thousand feet tall. and they're like, well, you can see the whole thing you. In those pictures that are shown as examples, you cannot see the entire Sears Tower. There is hundreds of feet of displacement in Chicago. Like New York has a [00:34:00] very tall fucking skyline. But you could still see those buildings and they're there, and on top of it, you're getting atmospheric disturbance. You're getting a layer of almost a mirage layer.  Mike: Dave was just going over the math of the entire situation, it's 67 feet per 10 miles. Now, before we move on, we have to mention that there are ball earthers or globes or globe tards that do argue that this equation is misused by flat earthers. And is the equation of calculating a parabola, not a full sphere. Dave: The guy who said that this is Misused was something that was found on the Michael Stata podcast and apparently himself and another guy that were on there, one was like an F 18 pilot, and then he's got certain hundreds and hundreds amount of hours as being a pilot. he had mentioned that the equation was misused and used the parabola as an example, that you're talking [00:35:00] about something like this instead of something that's a full circle even if you're talking about it on the curve, , it's still a parabola, even on that surface. Even though the equations are right and the math is right to calculate the curvature of the earth with its circumference that's known.  Might not be accurate. And uh, who did that? Aristophenes did that. And I know Flat Earthers is gonna say that guy didn't even fucking exist. which maybe he did, maybe he didn't. That was 2000 years ago. Who knows? Fronk: just to be fair to the flat earthers, right? We can't nitpick what false history we believe and don't, we do tend to say that history could have been falsified many times. If history has been erased at any point in time there is the possibility that this dude was made. Mike: using this model, a person standing on a spherical surface with eyes five feet, 11 inches above the ground, can [00:36:00] hypothetically see the ground up to about three miles away, but a person at the top of the Eiffel Tower at 896 feet can see the ground up to 36.6 miles away. Dave: Well, they're higher in altitude, Mike: Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm.  Dave: but the argument is that you can't see using the calculation, you wouldn't be able to see because it's dipping. I think the argument is wrong, and I'm not a mathematician and I'm not good at math, but from what my I see is that almost like some of these people are seeing it smaller than what it is. I don't think they're really getting how big this thing is and how small we are. So even at a 900 feet, Yes, you can see almost 10 times as much in distance, but you're also almost a thousand feet in the air,  Mike: Again,  perspective.   Fronk: If the degree of the [00:37:00] curvature is found to be the same everywhere on earth's surface, and the surface is in fact large enough, the constant curvature demonstrates that the earth is a. Now what about water? James Underdown, executive Director for the Center for Inquiry, Los Angeles worked with the Independent Investigations Group, a nonprofit dedicated to investigating exceptional claims using scientific methods. A boat based target with horizontal stripes was used in one of these tests. Dave: He's quoted as saying we sent a boat out on the water, and the farther it goes, the more the stripes disappear. That was supposed to demonstrate the curvature of the planet, but most flat earthers disagreed generating considerable debate. The biggest reason for these arguments with flat earth, obviously it comes from flat Earth, Dave(David Weiss), and it's all about perspective, as we said. The ground would never obscure distant objects on a flat earth. It should be possible to see all the way to the edge of the [00:38:00] world, right? That is the question that we would be asking. The answer we get is the atmosphere is opaque. Now, using the vernacular atmosphere is almost a conundrum in itself, and you ask, well, why did you use that? Well, we don't have another word for it.  Mike: Why not just make up a word like you fucking make up your own beliefs?  Just fucking do it. Just do it. . Make up a new word. It's very easy. It's done every day.   [00:39:00] Ad break [00:40:00]    Mike: Let's move on to another major fight in this, the position of the sun, sunrise and sunset. In case you were wondering, the sun is always above the Earth's surface in both models, Yet in the flat model, it travels in circles around the Earth's north pole, which is also, its. The seasons are caused by the expansion [00:41:00] and contraction of these circles. What about latitude?  Dave: What about latitude? I mean,  that would  Mike: about latitude  Dave: right? Mike: Hmm. Dave: The largest circumference of latitude on this planet would be the equator. Correct?  Mike: Yep. Dave: And then you have the tropic cancer and the tropic of Capricorn. The midpoints. I don't know that seems pretty, easy to explain. Maybe I'm just stupid. Could  be,  Mike: Globetard Dave: yeah. Fronk: Fucking idiot. Do some research Mike: Look into it. Fronk: where, show me where, show me where I could read about this that isn't on the app.  Mike: In the Bible, Fronk: Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. All right. Here we go with the fucking Bible again. Mike: and books from the  17 hundreds  Fronk: They considered the sun to be much closer than 93 million miles and possibly even as far as 3000 miles or as close as 300 miles and moves in a circle or a helix pattern because the earth is supposedly accelerating upward, obviously toward the sun [00:42:00] at 9.8 meters per second because they don't believe in gravity, and that explains gravity away. with that being said, the sun must also be accelerating in the same direction as this hypothetical earth vortex. Make sense? You guys got that? Dave: instead of us spinning with things spinning around us and us spinning around something else and then that spinning around something else, which is relative there's a really big graphic that's always shown on every documentary, every video, and it's like the sun being shot out of a. With everything else just like around it, it looks like a DNA strand, most globe tards, know that that's not how motion works with celestial bodies. that one got me and always gets me, is every time that's shown. I'm like, oh God.  Fronk: other astronomical bodies moving in such a pattern? We have like really high powered telescopes Mike: Because space is not real.  Fronk: [00:43:00] Oh, shit. I forgot. I'm, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You got me.  Okay. All right. All right. Right. All right. Dave: no space. No space. We have to remember that throughout this whole episode, there's no space. Fronk: Yes. Yes. Mike: if you take space out of the equation, introduce God in the Bible, and just ignore all known fucking science for the past like 300 years, you can be a flat earther. Fronk: wait is it no space or it's just the sun and the moon and the earth, or , is it None of that and it's just plain earth with our spinning moon, sun clock sort of thing happening, Which one is it? Do flat earthers believe either the barrel bore theory or the plate theory? Dave: Everything's contained in a system. Fronk: It's one in the same Dave: and everything above us is, I guess, the abyss, because there's a lot of arguments that, like with this Artemis program, whether it's fake or not, we'll talk about NASA in a little bit, but whether it's fake or not, Rockets [00:44:00] don't work in a vacuum apparently. but they're actually using, their own inertia to move in a vacuum. But I guess things don't work that way according to some. That brings us to sunrise and sunset. I don't want to get too far into this cuz this can take hours and hours and hours to argue about, let's talk about sunrise and sunset real quick.  Fronk: Unlike a bunch of these other points, the day and night cycles are actually kind of easily explained on a flat plane. The sun theoretically would move in circles above the North Pole. Or around the North Pole, and when it's over your head, it's day, and when it's not, it's nighttime. The light of the sun is then confined to a limited area on the earth, right? Because it's right above you. This claim never held any weight for me in particular because it can be debunked with science.  On top of this, all of the planets and stars aren't actually what they appear to be like [00:45:00] big rock balls in space or giant balls of gas, but they're actually luminaries. Yet. We also hear a lot of people say, well, we don't know what they. Dave: Stars and planets are one of the biggest things that cannot be explained yet. We can explain them with telescopes. We've been talking a lot about movement. We have to talk about heliocentric model, which is the one that we supposedly live in and not the geocentric model, which is the one that flat earthers live in. When we are confronted with the question of how the earth is able to orbit the sun, and it's not a sphere it's pretty simple. The earth actually doesn't orbit the sun, as we've been saying. This is so, because instead of the sun being the center of our solar system, our planet is actually the center of our solar system or controlled environment. Mike: In reality, we have Helio Centrism, also known as the Heliocentric Model. It's the astronomical model in which the earth and planets revolve around the sun at the center historically, [00:46:00] Helio Centrism was opposed to geo centrism, which placed the earth at the center. now we've hit the firmament. Fronk: In the cosmology of the flat earth. The disc shaped planet is covered by a dome whose edges stopped just beyond the roughly 145 foot high ice wall of Antarctica. And these stars are fixed on this dome while the sun and moon, which are only about 31 miles in diameter, revolve about a 3,100 miles above the earth. Dave: Now, as we said before in biblical cosmology, the firmament is a vast, solid dome or semi solid dome created by God during his creation in the first six days To divide the primal sea into upper and lower portions so that the dry land could appear, which surrounds the earth or frozen water, I've heard this a lot with the biblical cosmology stuff, is that it's explained during day one, day two, day three, and they even say in the Bible, God created the firmament. I [00:47:00] believe it's on ver bran's headstone, as we've mentioned previously. I think it's a lot of wordplay and interpretation,  Mike: We also mentioned back in Hollow Moon, if you've listened to that episode about the Zulu tribe, where the firmament or atmosphere rained down to earth.  Our flat earthers saying that the sky is liquid possibly. Clearly, we know that the Earth's atmosphere is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 0.9% argon and 0.1% of other gases. Dave: Now, quickly, recently, I've heard a lot of arguments in quite a few different shows and videos not just one proponent, but multiple proponents on this theory. And a lot of 'em will say, well, the atmosphere itself is just a different version of water as it is up in space, a whole different version of water. Because they use the example of if you go to the deep oceans or certain lakes, there's different [00:48:00] salinities of water. You'll have heavier water on the bottom, different pockets of water. the atmosphere works the same way and they say, because it has the same elements in it. Now, if our atmosphere is made up of 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, yes, there's hydrogen in that, because if we need water, we need H two O, which does happen in the atmosphere, Fronk: shit. That's why they sent U-boats to space it's water. Dave: oh. Fronk: Oh, Dave: That's it.  You got me.  Mike: done. We're done.    Final thoughts, boys? Fronk: Thank you Hushlings. Dave: Yeah, that's it. Mike: Okay, so we're talking about the firmament currently. Now I just want everyone to know the actual definition of a firmament. So the firmament is the vault or arch of the sky. The firmament isn't necessarily something that is physical. It is something that is viewed. the [00:49:00] arch from one horizon to the other is the sky. That is the firmament. So when everybody's saying, oh, firmament, they're talking about the firmament, they're talking about something that's physically there. No, that's a viewpoint. The firmament refers to horizon. To horizon. The arch of the sky as you see it from one end of your viewpoint to the other Dave: Makes sense. There's a lot of that too, where it said that you're, uh, you have a personal viewing bubble and I think that's misinterpreted as what you're actually, what you can see you go up a 1500 foot mountain, you look around, you can see 360 degrees.  Mike: that's your firmament. Dave: that's your firmament. Fronk: One bar from Suicide Boy's last album. One of them goes Dome. So good. I think she think the earth is flat mouth like the fucking firmament. She got my eyes rolling back. There you go.  Mike: it says it all. Fronk: [00:50:00] It says it all, it says it all your, your mouth has a firmament. Mike: Show me what that firmament do. Fronk: land ho. We have hit the ice walls and the absence of the poles along the edge of our local area exists a massive 150 foot ice wall. This ice wall is on the coast of Antarctica, and The wall is absolutely gargantuan, made up of solid water, ice that surrounds our world and holds our world's oceans in.   And the South Pole does not exist, whereas the North Pole is just a giant mountain called a hyperly that you can't visit. Dave: The ice walls were discovered by Sir James Clark, who was a British naval officer and polar explorer who was amongst the first adventure to Antarctica in an attempt to determine the position of the south magnetic pole between 1768 and 1779. [00:51:00] Upon confronting the massive vertical front of ice heat famously remarked. Mike: "It was an obstruction of such character as to leave no doubt in my mind as to our future proceedings for we might as well sail through the Cliffs of Dover as to penetrate such a mass. That's what she said. It would be impossible to conceive a more solid looking mass of ice. Not the smallest appearance of any rent or fisher. Could we discover throughout the whole of its extent and the intensely bright sky beyond it, but too plainly indicated. The great distance to which it wreaths, southward " Dave: apparently it took him three years or so to do one of the journeys and he circumnavigated the globe at 77,000 miles. what if he did it three times and did [00:52:00] 77,000 miles? That's the one thing that I've always thought is that, was it one trip  Fronk: And he just didn't know Mike: But again, in the 18 hundreds, let's say that this guy goes and he encounters an ice shelf, would he not think that was an ice wall? Dave: yeah, Fronk: like, oh shit. Well this is the edge of the world I suppose. Mike: there's no going past this. My ship can't go through that. Dave: I mean, yeah, that would be logical. Mike: I think this is what we said in the first one, a lot of these arguments for a flat earth revert back to like this 18 hundreds knowledge. Let's look at this book from the 18 hundreds. Look, they mentioned the firmament. Let's look at this. they talk about ice stones and blah, blah, blah. Fronk: The future is a lie. . The truth lies in the 18 hundreds. Reject modernity, Now all of this would of course, imply that Antarctica isn't at all what they say. And we've [00:53:00] mentioned this quite a bit about the Antarctic treaty already and the Antarctic bases and all of the secrets that they hide and you can't go there. You're not allowed There. Only scientists. Yeah. That's where they're hiding the edge of the.  Dave: Let's board a plane real quick and try to go to Antarctica. I know we say we can get there by ship, but two major arguments about airplanes with the flat earth theory is one, there's no round trip flights to Antarctica. And I think we covered this briefly in our first one where we had said, Antarctica fucking sucks. And that's probably why there's no round trip flights and how a lot of the Southern Hemisphere flights cannot be explained. And I believe we went over that a lot in our first episode. And I still stick by all of what I thought about that. Now, the other question that comes up with this theory  one, can you see curve in a commercial aircraft? And two, the aircraft always has to be pitching nose down after a [00:54:00] certain amount of time. Those two arguments come up major in this theory. So I wanna get your thoughts on do planes always have to tip downward as you're flying? Cuz you've all been on flights before, Fronk: No, the plane isn't nose diving or it doesn't feel like it anyway. It doesn't seem like it's nose diving by any means. Dave: but you would feel it. You can feel drop in altitude when you're starting to descend and you feel that, whew, almost that weird weightlessness when they drop a couple hundred feet or a thousand feet pretty quickly. You can feel turbulence, obviously. , I don't think that it necessarily pitches downward after a certain distance because I think, like I said earlier, planes are tiny and the earth is huge. So I don't think there's that much effect of a plane having to move when it's floating on top of a surface of air. Fronk: If a plane pitched downwards while at like max [00:55:00] altitude, wouldn't it just start losing altitude? Wouldn't you just be going towards the ground or am I being peanut brained? Dave: If planes were going in the straight path following the Earth's curve, then they would fly off into space. That's what they say. And I think it's simpler than that. Planes fly in a certain area from 35,000 to 50,000 feet, especially commercial aircraft in a certain layer of air that's thinnest. Which is why they can move as fast as they can, but I don't believe that they're pitching because they're so tiny that everything is going to appear flat at 35,000 feet cuz the earth is so big. Mike: , they're maintaining a certain altitude from the ground, so they're not pitching anything. They're just going with the natural atmosphere of the earth. Dave: Gravity.  Mike: Yeah.    Dave: The plane thing never, never made too much sense to me, especially with the flying off into space. If you didn't compensate for curvature, it's because the Plains Center [00:56:00] mass is always perpendicular with the ground and the plane is so insignificantly small. That you will not notice those changes. You notice left and right banks on planes, , you take a direction moving towards another city, you see it, you feel the whole plane go and you're looking towards the ground. If you're ascending, you feel that inertia you're getting pulled up into the air, especially on takeoffs. Or if you're descending, you feel that, oh, the pilot goes, we're gonna be descending in a couple minutes, and all of a sudden you feel that that drop, you feel that motion left, right, and vertical but you don't feel those nudges that they say that they're doing. So I don't think that that happens. I just think the center mass of that plane is fighting against gravity to keep it up. It's a boat in the sky. Mike: even if they did, that's a continuous compensation. So it's not like they're flying a certain distance and then going, oh, well I'm eight inches above where I was before. I need to adjust. Even if that was the truth, they would just make manual [00:57:00] adjustments as they went. So over that period of time, a half inch, a quarter inch, whatever you wouldn't even be able to tell in the first place if that was the case. Fronk: And that would only be if you were flying like across the world. I'm sure it's even less so if you're flying from somewhere on the east coast down to like Minnesota or something, it's gonna be even less noticeable if you're traveling somewhere that local. Dave: You're only traveling a couple hundred miles. Fronk: Yeah, exactly. Mike: I'm sure the figures are out there, but how many flat earthers are from America versus from the rest of the world? Dave: Good question. Mike: just wondering. Dave: I don't know the answer to that. I would say there's a lot in America. America is a very conspiracy driven country at the moment, and flat earth boils down to every other conspiracy. If you believe wholeheartedly in this, you believe everything else, the lies, everything is fake. Your entire [00:58:00] existence is fake. that's from what I get Fronk: That sucks. And then, and then from that point where do they go with that? They yell at other people about it or We're gonna briefly go over the eclipse aspect of flat earth theory. Now, we all obviously know what eclipses are. That's when the moon aligns with the sun and the earth and blocks out the sun. You know the deal. and remember that the moon is 400 times smaller than the sun. It's also about 400 times closer to the earth than the sun is. Is that coincidence that this astronomical phenomenon happens? Uh, Dave: Well, I can tell you from the flat earth side that that is almost impossible.  Mike: It's pretty impossible either way. Like it's pretty coincidental. I will give it to them that when you're talking about the sun and the moon being these like perfect distances and these perfect sizes and these per that's intriguing to say the least. I will give them. Dave: Which we did go over[00:59:00] Hollow moon theory if the moon was placed here, it was placed here on purpose, but then that would give weight to some type of, maybe not creationism, but some type of external control or external observation, which I think all of us are on the fence with that.  That could be, it could not be, Mike: Again, prove to me that any of this is real Dave: So there's two types of eclipses. There's solar and lunar eclipses. Now, the way solar eclipses work is that the moon orbits in between the sun and the earth. And when that occurs, obviously the moon blocks out the sunlight. You see the corona bought a bing. You have a solar eclipse, and the moon also casts a shadow on the earth. Now, a lot of the times it's told that the moon can't cast this little tiny pin prick shadow that goes across the earth. But if the moon is relatively 200,000 miles away, why couldn't it?  Mike: According to flat Earth theorists, this astronomical phenomenon is [01:00:00] actually a glimpse of a mysterious shadow object that orbits the sun and occasionally passes in front of the moon. From our point of view, could it be planet X Nibiru? No. This object is known as the anti moon. That's new Dave: another random object in our solar system. We could go on and on about eclipses, but we have to talk about one of the biggest fallacies of our education system. Gravity, Mike: not real. Dave: not real. Now, one of the most well agreed upon theories is general relativity. And it is the theory of gravitation developed by our boy Albert Einstein, who was apparently a conman according to flat earthers. And between 1907 and 1915, he figured all this out. The theory of general relativity says that an observe gravitational effect between masses results from their warping of space time. Gravity is still just a theory to us. I guess we can all be on the fence [01:01:00] on it cause we really don't get it. And I think scientists have , admitted that they don't get it,  Mike: Well, didn't recently they say that they had to like rework that entire thought process for some discovery that they had found that the theory of relativity had to be, had to be rethought or it was not necessarily wrong entirely, but partially, I guess., it had to do with the way that a black hole was working, where for the first time they saw a star coming out of a black hole. Fronk: Yeah, I saw that it was being regurgitated. They saw light coming out of a black hole. That's right. Mike: Things are happening, man. Whether you believe in space or not, it's. Pretty wild. Fronk: Newton's love gravitation states every point Mass attracts every single other point mass by a force acting along the line intersecting both points. I don't know what that means. The force is proportional to the product of the two [01:02:00] masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them. Exactly. That's what I've been saying this whole Mike: Sounds about right. Thanks boys. Well, what is gravity? According to this theory, it's stated that the earth isn't pulled into a sphere because the force known as gravity exists in a greatly diminished form compared to what is commonly taught, which is that we're being pulled down to the center of the earth while. The flat Earth is constantly accelerating up at a rate of 32 feet per second squared or 9.8 meters per second squared. As we had previously mentioned, this constant acceleration causes what you think of as gravity, but it's actually caused by a universal accelerator known as dark energy or Etheric wind. Never heard of Etheric wind. That's interesting, Fronk: time's that post Taco Bell shit's my etheric wind. Dave: [01:03:00] Furthermore with this we hear words like density and buoyancy a lot in these theories arguments, which is why things fall to the ground that are heavier and explains rockets, which are thought to actually be filled with helium and have a pyrotechnic show. that proves that all things fall at 9.8 meters squared.   Dave: All right boys, we're getting towards the end of our flat earth expedition here. But we have to go back in the sky. That brings us to rockets and satellites. As we just mentioned. Proponents of flat earth theory believe that satellites totally exist, but cannot be seen from the ground and are actually held in the atmosphere by helium balloons. Hence why NASA is the largest consumer of helium and they sometimes crash into the planet, which we call them weather balloons. And I guess that would explain the weather balloon phenomenon.  Fronk: Satellites in low earth orbit are constantly fighting gravity. According to science, some are geographically fixed and keep their [01:04:00] orbit by balancing two factors, their velocity, which is the speed required to travel in a straight line and their gravitational pull to the earth. To resist the stronger gravitational pole, a satellite orbiting closer to the earth requires more velocity. And of course, we're not going to get out of this debriefing without a little bit of NASA sprinkled in that bitch. Mike: Yes, good old nasa, our friends over there, professional cgi. It's widely assumed that humans have never left the Earth's atmosphere. In fact, we've never left earth and entered space because we lack the ability to do so in the first place unless you're a Nazi and a U-boat. Most of what society has been taught about space is completely made up or greatly exaggerated. By the government and or the elites. There's also the claim that humans have never landed on the moon. I'm with that, and that the infamous moon landings witnessed by the entire world in [01:05:00] 1969 were a sham. Fronk: Okay. I'll give them that. A major claim is that any pictures from the Apollo 11 mission that show that our planet as a sphere in the distance were fabricated by the government and nasa and NASA's mission is not to hide the shape of the earth or trick people into thinking it's round or anything else of the sort. Dave: Well, that's what NASA says, right?  We obviously know that there's some type of space travel conspiracy, whether it's more advanced or it doesn't exist. Possibly Nasa's mission is to create the illusion of space travel in order to, cover for the military, and their dominance in space. One thing we forgot to mention that I thought of real quick when you guys were talking is the quick notion on gravity. There's a lot of flat earthers that will say, well, can you jump, when you jump off the earth, you a hundred, 200 pound person jumping off the earth. Do you come back [01:06:00] down? And was it easy to jump? Then why is gravity so strong? Fronk: that's the whole argument of like, why does Gravity hold our planet's, oceans On  Dave: Yeah. Yeah. If it can  hold all this water and all this mass,  why can you jump off your roof and hit the ground? Mike: Because there is a different pull depending on the mass of the object.  Dave: Mike wins a gold star Fronk: gold sticker for you. Mike: boys, let's get into our final thoughts. Everything that was on Reddit, we've been through, we've done this whole thing. I wanna know the final thoughts as we get into stage two of becoming a flat earth. are we now believing that gravity is not real? The sun is a, lamp and uh, and we live on a flat plain, surrounded by an ice wall. Dave, are you a flat earther? Dave: No. sadly, I am not a flat earther. I think it's an [01:07:00] interesting theory that opens up a lot of more conspiracies and there are some valid questions, but I think a lot of it has to do with our lack of actually being able to see things because we are restricted beings. Uh, the one thing about flat earth theory that I find really fascinating is the suppression of information, the hidden things. And I think that's the conspiratorial part that really pulls me, believing that it is a different shape or an infinite plane or a snow globe, or, flatterers is gonna get so mad at me for saying that because we don't believe it's a snow globe. It doesn't look like a pancake. They all have different theories and a lot of it goes back to religion. A lot of it goes to creationism. A lot of it goes back to every other conspiracy you've ever heard of. So for me, still, I still think we live on a planet. the definition of planet is what we live on. Is it a perfect sphere? I think that's proven that it's not a perfect sphere.[01:08:00] I'm not a scientist, but I've done research and research and research and supposedly it takes up to two weeks or so to become a flat earth. I've been doing this research since like the end of July, and I'm still not convinced. wanted to give it a fair shake. Didn't wanna be a douche bag. Would invite any flat earth to come on and talk to us. We'd love to have you on, but You didn't get me yet. Mike: I will take my final thoughts, a complete left turn here. I don't care. I don't care whether it's a giant paella pan or if we live on a dodge ball. I, I don't care. I don't care. Maybe it's the blue pilled part of my brain that still exists. I don't give a shit. It doesn't change anything. I'm still gonna wake up in the morning and have to go to work, have to pay my taxes, and eventually I'm gonna fucking die. That's just the way that it is. I don't care if we live on a flat plane, I don't care if we live on a globe. It's just the way that [01:09:00] it is. but I don't think that we live on a fly plane. I'm just gonna say that I don't think that I, I do think that there is a lot of cover up of our former history. That much I believe is true. I do believe that NASA is filled with a bunch of liars and they do fabricate things including, setting up these videos where they're watching astronauts float around, but the water stays in a cup. That's an interesting one. , I do think that they do composite images together and they are a bunch of liars that I completely agree with. . I love you whether you're a flat earth or not, but no, it's a no for me. Fran, give us your final thoughts. Did you become a flat earther in this episode?   Fronk: No, I didn't. , I'm not gonna go off on a limb and say that I tried to give flat earth theory, the benefit of [01:10:00] the doubt, but I tried to stay open-ended, especially towards like the beginning of the episode. I was just trying to like see it from both sides and I still do to an extent. And you're right in saying that their best argument is the space shit and nasa, but, that can't be all you're going off of here, because that, lends to so much other shit besides just the shape of the planet.  And not only that, if you're like sold on the shape of the planet, then you've been deceived. You know what, I'm gonna pull a flirter and tell you what you've been taught on. The internet is wrong, and it's all code. You've been tricked into thinking that what we live on is physical and that it has shape. There is no shape. I've never even been out of the country. You can't even convince me that Australia's real, let alone the, the, the fucking shape of the  Mike: you're partial flat earther because they don't believe that Australia is real either. Fronk: [01:11:00] Oh, no. Australia's not real Mike: listen, if you're in Australia and you, uh, you live there full time, reach out to us. Send us an email. Even better a voicemail, because I just want to hear the accent. Send us a voicemail and say, Hey, yeah, I exist. I'm here. This is a real place. Dave: Clearly they exist. They're number three on our Spotify Mike: That's right. Thanks Australia. Fronk: No, I, I never tried to doubt Australia. It was a metaphor, but Dave: Our Hustralians down under, Mike: That's hilarious. Dave: , if we offended you we're sorry. Well, I partially am. Mike: I, I, listen, I tried this episode. I think that I was better than the first episode. I didn't sit there and say anybody was an idiot or any of that stuff. like I said, you believe what you wanna believe, but on, at the end of the day, I don't think that it really matters. Fronk: And if it makes you feel [01:12:00] special, by all means,

WITH ONLY ONE EPISODE TO GO, WHAT DO WE THINK OF KENOBI & THE STAR WARS TV SHOWS? Mike and members of the extended Comics In Motion family are bringing you 5 discussion episodes on the Obi-Wan Kenobi series and for the fourth instalment, we have Ben of Star Wars Timeline, Dave Horrocks & Mike discussing the fifth & penultimate episode of the series, which leads onto tangents about the wider Star Wars TV series era we are in and how it compares to the movies! You can find Ben's YouTube here: https://youtube.com/starwarstimeline- Twitter: @SWT_Channel (https://twitter.com/SWT_Channel) - SWT's Facebook Group: https://facebook.com/groups/starwarstimeline You can find Dave on Twitter @SeattleDojos or listen to him on Comics In Motion's TV & Movies show as well as on the VHS Strikes Back: https://linktr.ee/vhsstrikesbackand Chris & Dave's Reality TV Cast: https://anchor.fm/cdrealitycast And you can find all of Mike's podcast shows & his social media details here: https://linktr.ee/GenuineChitChat Mike has appeared on Star Wars Timeline numerous times; recently to talk about Villains in each of the SW trilogies here: https://youtu.be/V7382WWkSP0- they also discuss accents in the Star Wars universe; the original trilogy here: https://youtu.be/1X0PyXkQZGg& the prequel trilogy here: https://youtu.be/3L4qWeYOzhw Mike appeared on Indie Comics Spotlight, discussing Cavan Scott's Shadow Service with Tony, listen on this feed; of Comics In Motion! https://pod.fo/e/1259e4 To listen to one of Mike's Patreon episodes for free, check out the first in Mike & Megan's Tom Hanks rewatch here: https://bit.ly/TomHanks1 To hear Mike's exclusive canon book reviews on Last Shot, Dark Disciple & A New Dawn, plus the Legends books Shatterpoint, Darth Bane & Darth Plagueis as well as the movie & TV “Afterthoughts” episodes, support the show at http://patreon.com/genuinechitchat Please subscribe to Mike's YouTube channel to see video versions of his conversations, playlists filled with episode of GCC & SWCIC and more: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClQvgois9knDkFvjqcpoQtw Email us at comicsinmotionpodcast@gmail.com or follow us on social media @comicsinmotionp For more Star Wars content, check out Mike's show Star Wars: Comics In Canon every Saturday on the feed of Comics In Motion or on his YouTube channel, plus check out his conversations on Genuine Chit-Chat with Star-Wars-related individuals including Cavan Scott, Claudia Gray, Paolo Villanelli, Dominic Pace and other non-Star-Wars guests! Last week, Mike's episode 98 of Star Wars: Comics In Canon was the first canon Star Wars manga; The Edge Of Balance; set in the High Republic volume 1 introduces us to Jedi Knight Lily Tora-Asi, her old Wookiee master; Arkoff, two excitable younglings and Lily's padawan Keerin! These jedi must face adapting to settling on a new world, but a mysterious force is causing disruption on Banchii – find out about this and much more! Mike, Megan, Ria & JAC discussed all 9 episodes of Star Wars Visions: https://pod.fo/e/f9b4b --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/comics-in-motion-podcast/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/comics-in-motion-podcast/support

Get out your yellow ties. The boys are back to talk transfers. In this week's episode: - Arsenal's lack of numbers - Spurs Italian job - The new look Everton - How did Newcastle get on in the window? - Fake news from Dave - Mike responds to UTD topping the fan engagement table.

For the next seven weeks, members of the extended Comics In Motion family will be bringing you weekly discussions on The Book of Boba Fett and for Chapter 1: Stranger In A Strange Land, we have Angry Andy, Dave Horrocks, Mike Burton & Spider-Dan to take us through their thoughts on the episode and what they want for the rest of the series! You can find Angry Andy's YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/user/Knowlsy1878- Twitter: @Andy_Review (https://twitter.com/Andy_Review) You can find Dave Horrocks on VHS Strikes Back: https://linktr.ee/vhsstrikesback - Back To The Office: https://anchor.fm/backtotheoffice- Twitter: @SeattleDojos (https://twitter.com/seattledojos) You can find Spider-Dan at https://spiderdanandthesecretbores.com/- Twitter: @Dan_Bores (https://twitter.com/dan_bores) - @Spiderdansecretbores (https://instagram.com/spiderdansecretbores/) And you can find Mike Burton's podcast & social media details here: https://linktr.ee/GenuineChitChat Email us at comicsinmotionpodcast@gmail.com or follow us on social media @comicsinmotionp You can watch the video version on Mike's YouTube channel, please check it out and subscribe as once he gets 100 subscribers, he can change the YouTube channel link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClQvgois9knDkFvjqcpoQtw For more Star Wars content, check out Mike's show Star Wars: Comics In Canon every Saturday on the feed of Comics In Motion or on his YouTube channel, plus check out the below links. Mike, Megan, Ria & JAC discussed all 9 episodes of Star Wars Visions: https://spoti.fi/3nGbE5o Mike spoke with Star Wars comic artist Paolo Villanelli here: https://spoti.fi/309L77s If you want to hear the CiM rundown on season 2 of the Mandalorian, check episode 1 here: https://spoti.fi/3mIwaRG Mike returned to Star Wars Timeline to talk about The Force Awakens here: https://youtu.be/c4VMXeBU3W4 The Last Jedi here: https://youtu.be/7dGEsdfSMkY and The Rise of Skywalker here: https://youtu.be/9fZWXji7_Jo Mike & Megan spoke with Alex & Mollie of Star Wars Explained, you can listen on this very feed or check out the video version on YouTube here: https://youtu.be/R2fr4-TdbQA Comics in Motion is proud to partner with Lenovations Press! Check out their high quality independent comics here: http://bit.ly/Lenovations Get some great deals at Humble Bundle and support Comics In Motion: https://www.humblebundle.com/?partner=comicsinmotion --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/comics-in-motion-podcast/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/comics-in-motion-podcast/support

A comedy podcast where a married couple reads amateur erotica and tries not to die laughing. Episode 20 2 Sexy? Stories. Links to Necronomipod. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/necronomipod/id1448261954 https://www.instagram.com/necronomipod https://l.instagram.com/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FClothing-Shoes-Jewelry-Necronomipod%2Fs%3Frh%3Dn%253A7141123011%252Cp_4%253ANecronomipod&e=ATPoJByxVCdmPZC58pcYfPV_x1aB0jEZhJoTc5kVpDJns8t2-nj-V9pRBGWr4r46miU-unddxmHuHnU0-M_bh5o7av-CUNFE&s=1 ` You can also watch this episode on Youtube https://youtu.be/2VCjXb68l5Q If you enjoy the podcast be sure to subscribe and follow us on social media. Twitter @ThatsSexycast Instagram @ThatsSexyPodcast Tiktok @ThatsSexyPodcast Disclaimer: This podcast contains sexually explicit content. Listener, discretion is advised, Basically, NO ONE under 18 should be listening to this.

The Office Season 1 Episode 6- Hot Girl- Hello Everyone, we are pleased to share with you another episode of Shootin' the Breeze with Dave & Mike. We sat down and talked about what we enjoyed the episode. It was so fun to talk with him and just talk how we all kind of talk all over the place. We hope you enjoy the episode. We had a lot of fun making it. Thank you all so much. Please Subscribe, Rate and leave a Comment.   

They don't come more iconic than Spielberg and Jim Carrey..This will be hard to vote on but that is exactly what Dave Mike and Bob will have to do, which will you choose?JURASSIC PARK Vs DUMB AND DUMBERThis episode also features the track BREAK AWAY by JIMENA ARROYOhttps://open.spotify.com/track/0NfxCjeRrTFSud0gxcHURp?si=f46c88c236044cecThanks for listeningSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/eliminationpodcast?fan_landing=true)

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We are back yet again as we join our three preceptors at Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963! We explore and question all the 'magic' angles of the death of John F. Kennedy. America's 35th President in broad daylight during a presidential motorcade through the streets of Dallas Texas. There are claims that the CIA were not only involved but carried out this assassination and that the alleged shooter, Lee Harvey Oswald was merely a pawn in a much larger plan! What happened during the course of that November day? What led up to this? Who were the parties involved? We look through all the open and closed windows. No blade of grass left untouched. (1:41) Fronk introduces John F. Kennedy. (2:48) We explore JFK's early life and military career (4:00) JFK is inaugurated as the 35th President of the United States, as the trio elaborate some of the things that went on in his presidency. (5:53) Fronk goes into the Bay of Pigs. (6:50) Dave & Mike delve into the space race with JFK and the Soviet Union as well as the building of the Berlin wall. (8:49) The Cuban Missile Crisis is introduced. (11:25) Mikes jumps into the John F. Kennedy signs the Nuclear Test Ban with the Soviet Union and his connections with Khrushchev. (14:50) Mike cruises into the fateful day of the assassination, November 22 1963. Fronk elaborates the events. (16:06) Lee Harvey Oswald's arrest and murder is explained. (17:18) Dave goes into some of Lee Harvey Oswald's life before the assassination. (18:38) Mike introduces the conspiracies that followed. (20:40) Jackie O in the Zapruder film, and Agent Roy Kellerman, Special Agent Clint Hill's testimony. (23:42) Mike looks into the shots fired, location, angles and the weapon used. (26:14) Fronk touches on the Warren Commission (more on this in Part II) (27:01) The Grassy Knoll in Dealey Plaza and the Zapruder film are looked into deeper. (33:01) Mike talks about the witness accounts of the Texas Paper Depository building and the windows, people seen. (35:59) The transportation of the President and autopsies performed in Dallas as well as Bethesda is touched on by your preceptors. (40:00) Mike examines some of the wounds that accord. (43:33) Mike wraps up part one and fills the Hushlings in on part two, streaming August 31, 2020 If you have any questions or comments about the show please contact us at: HushHushSociety@planetmail.com or via Twitter, Facebook & Instagram. ***Don't forget to submit questions and topics for our live show November 9 2020*** For all listening platforms go to: http://linktr.ee/hushhushsociety

Our three preceptors venture on their premiere episode of The Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour delve deep into the strange and ominous reaches of The Montauk Project and The Philadelphia Experiment. We go back in time to the 1940s and seek answers into the secrets the United States government and its military were hiding at Montauk Point in Long Island, NY. With such accounts of teleportation, mind control, contact with extraterrestrials, faking the moon landings as well as the ever more strange tale of the USS Eldridge using teleportation from Philadelphia to New York then Virginia! (2:34) The Philadelphia Experiment introduction, October 28 1943 aboard the USS Eldridge. (4:52) Mike explains the degaussing story of said Navy ships. (5:49) Morris K Jessup was an author, ufologist, astronomer - "The Case for the UFO" (6:22) Carl M. Allen aka "Carlos Miguel Allende" sends Morris K. Jessup claims of experiences of the Philadelphia Experiment. Claims of aliens, interdimensional travel, etc. (8:36) Dave examines the degaussing definition from Wikipedia excerpt. (9:13) Mike talks about unified field theory, and Carlos Allendes claim that Albert Einstein aboard the USS Eldridge as well as thousands of men, are supposed to have seen the disappearance. (13:11) Carlos Allende claims that Charles Proteus Steinmetz was aboard the ship who died almost 20 years before the alleged incident on October 26, 1923. He also states that Nikola Tesla was on board who also had passed away before the experiment earlier that year. (18:01) Mike talks the USS Eldridge is transferred to Greece January 15, 1951 under the Mutual Defense Assistance Act (19:18) Dave introduces the Montauk Project on Montauk Point in Long Island, NY at Camp Hero. (20:28) Fronk talks about 'The Montauk Chair' subjects with strong psychic abilities (22:18) Mike explains the Bulgarian Experiment with Professor Marina Boyadjievas experiments with LSD from 1962-1968. (23:58) Dave & Mike talk about Preston Nichols's claims about being abducted and put through experiments. (25:03) Al Bielek and Duncan Cameron claim they jumped off the deck of the USS Eldridge (27:01) Fronk and Dave touch on Preston Nichols claims and the SAGE satellites (29:31) Mike touches on kidnappings known as, 'The Montauk Boys' and Preston Nichols claims to be one of these boys. His account talks about a monster that destroys a base. He also touches on the parallels with the Netflix show, Stranger Things. (33:48) Mike fills us in on what happened to Camp Hero If you have any questions or comments about the show please contact us at: HushHushSociety@planetmail.com or via Twitter, Facebook & Instagram. For all listening platforms go to: http://linktr.ee/hushhushsociety

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For episode 91, Mike is again joined by Chris Phelps & Dave Horrocks of Comics In Motion, VHS Strikes Back and Chris & Dave’s Reality Cast to talk about their many podcasts and their new roster of podcasts on the feed of Comics In Motion! This week brings part 2 of their chat and in it, Chris, Dave & Mike talk about podcast production & editing (including Mike’s major mess-up from a few months ago), reality TV and Chris & Dave’s Reality Cast, podcast audiences & listeners, uploading podcasts to YouTube and more! In case you missed part 1 of their chat, the trio discussed how Mike met Chris & Dave, why Comics In Motion now has 4 near-weekly shows, how Chris & Dave met Tony Farina (of Indie Comics Spotlight) & Max Byrne (of Mandatory Marvel & DC), followed by a discussion on Comic Con and nerd/geek culture, Chris talks about his love of video games and the community that goes with it, Star Wars is briefly discussed, as are many other topics! Chris & Dave hosts several podcasts including; Comics In Motion - VHS Strikes Back  - Chris & Dave’s Reality Cast - Chris also his own podcast Wrestling Gold discussed in episode 89 of GCC Indie Comics Spotlight, Mandatory Marvel & DC and Star Wars: Comics In Canon can all be found on Comics In Motion’s feed! Promo by Number One Rerun In case you missed episode 90, Mike spoke with Dave (of Comics In Motion) & Max (of Mandatory Marvel & DC) about the Snyder Cut of Justice League, the DCEU movies, Batman V Superman, The Batfleck, upcoming DC releases and more! Mike appeared on Tony Farina’s Indie Comics Spotlight to talk about the comic series Second Coming (Episode 13) Check out the podcast ROOM where Mike is in episode 1 of season 2 called “All Roads Lead To Room” as well as the episode "Jen And The Blob"! Recently Mike has appeared on the Ask Win PodcastHe has also appeared on the Friends In Your Ears podcast Mike has another show, called Star Wars: Comics In Canon – all episodes can be found on Comics In Motion’s podcast feed and episodes will be out every Saturday; episodes 0-13 are now out, speaking the Fallen Order prequel comic, how Obi-Wan & Anakin almost left the Jedi order, Cassian met K-2SO, Beckett before Solo, The Rise Of Kylo Ren, Darth Maul beyond The Phantom Menace, how C-3PO got his red arm, Operation: Cinder, Captain Phasma, The Last Jedi comics, Mon Cala & more - https://apple.co/39mut2Y Genuine Chit-Chat is a part of the Brit Pod Scene, so be sure to check out the other members of the family as well as the BPS podcast – www.britpodscene.com Instagram – Twitter – Facebook – YouTube – Stitcher - Podbean - Spotify You can also email us at GenuineChitChat@outlook.com with any reviews, comments or suggestions.

This week, Mike is joined by Chris Phelps & Dave Horrocks of Comics In Motion, VHS Strikes Back and Chris & Dave’s Reality Cast to talk about their many podcasts and their new roster of podcasts on the feed of Comics In Motion! In part 1 of their chat, the trio discuss how Mike met Chris & Dave, why Comics In Motion now has 4 near-weekly shows (including Mike’s show Star Wars: Comics In Canon), how Chris & Dave met Tony Farina (of Indie Comics Spotlight) & Max Byrne (of Mandatory Marvel & DC), followed by a discussion on Comic Con and nerd/geek culture, Chris talks about his love of video games and the community that goes with it, Star Wars is briefly discussed, as are many other topics! In part 2 Chris, Dave & Mike talk about podcast production & editing (including Mike’s major mess-up from a few months ago), reality TV and Chris & Dave’s Reality Cast, podcast audiences & listeners, uploading podcasts to YouTube and more! Chris & Dave hosts several podcasts including; Comics In Motion - VHS Strikes Back  - Chris & Dave’s Reality Cast - Chris also his own podcast Wrestling Gold discussed in episode 89 of GCC Indie Comics Spotlight, Mandatory Marvel & DC and Star Wars: Comics In Canon can all be found on Comics In Motion’s feed! Promo by In The Black Podcast (who appeared on episode 83 of GCC) In case you missed episode 90, Mike spoke with Dave (of Comics In Motion) & Max (of Mandatory Marvel & DC) about the Snyder Cut of Justice League, the DCEU movies, Batman V Superman, The Batfleck, upcoming DC releases and more! Mike appeared on Tony Farina’s Indie Comics Spotlight to talk about the comic series Second Coming (Episode 13) Promo for the podcast ROOM where episode 1 of season 2 shows Mike’s voice-acting debut on the episode called “All Roads Lead To Room” Recently Mike has appeared on the Ask Win PodcastHe has also appeared on the Friends In Your Ears podcast Mike has another show, called Star Wars: Comics In Canon – all episodes can be found on Comics In Motion’s podcast feed and episodes will be out every Saturday; episodes 0-12 are now out, speaking the Fallen Order prequel comic, how Obi-Wan & Anakin almost left the Jedi order, Cassian met K-2SO, Beckett before Solo, The Rise Of Kylo Ren, Darth Maul beyond The Phantom Menace, how C-3PO got his red arm, Operation: Cinder, Captain Phasma, The Last Jedi comics, Mon Cala & more - https://apple.co/39mut2Y Genuine Chit-Chat is a part of the Brit Pod Scene, so be sure to check out the other members of the family as well as the BPS podcast – www.britpodscene.com Instagram – Twitter – Facebook – YouTube – Stitcher - Podbean - Spotify You can also email us at GenuineChitChat@outlook.com with any reviews, comments or suggestions.

Fat Mike and Joey 2 Scoops welcome CBS Sports Senior Writer and fantasy football wizard Dave Richard to the show to talk NFL Draft, Chicago and fantasy football. Then David Schuster joins the guys for his weekly recap of "The Last Dance". Dave & Mike dig deep into the phenomenon of Michael Jordan. Then Mike goes 3 rounds with himself in Sports TKO, take a trip back in time with Sports History and closes things out with a local band, this time it's The Flat Rats and their song "Pin and Needles". Tune in for double the Dave's and double the fun! Lead Producer: Joe Mandel Producer: Mike Murawski

After watching friends succumb to poor health and cut down in the prime of their life. Dave Skattum knew he had to make some major changes in his life to see his dreams come true. After 10 years of grueling work, not only did he make some miraculous transformations, he also found his passion in life; To Help Men Take Steps Towards Good Health.This show promises to be a place that will encourage you to take steps towards good health. We do three things; 1. Provide cutting edge teaching on men’s health topics, 2. Interviews with men who have done it and 3. Interviews with major influencers and pros in the men’s health arena. All focused around helping men move closer to good health.In today’s podcast Dave & Mike talk about - The impact of affirmations and the power of words in Mikes life- How to make our words work for us not against us - Finding our vision - Building excitement - Capturing our words and reframing them- PMA means more than Positive Mental Attitude - Prayer - Meditation - Action Mike Green is a realtor from Northern Idaho, where he lives with his wife and kids. He loves to get out and do anything with his family. Mike was a Bodybuilder and continues his quest for a perfect mind and body. He has worked in the movie industry with celebrities like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Steven Spielberg. He is a life coach, an instructor at the Napoleon Hill Foundation, and a supportive father and husband.His life experiences have taught him the importance of a Positive Mental Attitude. His life motto is “PMA All the Way”. To maintain a Positive Mental Attitude, he relies on another PMA that is; Prayer, Meditation & Action. Contact Mike through his website http://www.CDAMike.comGet involved in the men’s health revolution, subscribe and support the podcast. Share your story or your expertise regarding men’s health, email Dave @ the4pillarsofmenshealth@gmail.com. For a deeper dive or to order his book visit the4pillarsofmenshealth.comThe 4 Pillars of Men’s Healthhttps://businessinnovatorsradio.com/the-4-pillars-of-mens-health/

After watching friends succumb to poor health and cut down in the prime of their life. Dave Skattum knew he had to make some major changes in his life to see his dreams come true. After 10 years of grueling work, not only did he make some miraculous transformations, he also found his passion in life; To Help Men Take Steps Towards Good Health.This show promises to be a place that will encourage you to take steps towards good health. We do three things; 1. Provide cutting edge teaching on men’s health topics, 2. Interviews with men who have done it and 3. Interviews with major influencers and pros in the men’s health arena. All focused around helping men move closer to good health.In today’s podcast Dave & Mike talk about - The impact of affirmations and the power of words in Mikes life- How to make our words work for us not against us - Finding our vision - Building excitement - Capturing our words and reframing them- PMA means more than Positive Mental Attitude - Prayer - Meditation - Action Mike Green is a realtor from Northern Idaho, where he lives with his wife and kids. He loves to get out and do anything with his family. Mike was a Bodybuilder and continues his quest for a perfect mind and body. He has worked in the movie industry with celebrities like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Steven Spielberg. He is a life coach, an instructor at the Napoleon Hill Foundation, and a supportive father and husband.His life experiences have taught him the importance of a Positive Mental Attitude. His life motto is “PMA All the Way”. To maintain a Positive Mental Attitude, he relies on another PMA that is; Prayer, Meditation & Action. Contact Mike through his website http://www.CDAMike.comGet involved in the men’s health revolution, subscribe and support the podcast. Share your story or your expertise regarding men’s health, email Dave @ the4pillarsofmenshealth@gmail.com. For a deeper dive or to order his book visit the4pillarsofmenshealth.comThe 4 Pillars of Men’s Healthhttps://businessinnovatorsradio.com/the-4-pillars-of-mens-health/

A discussion and analysis of last week's games, prognostication on the best plays for Week 7, and some lively chatter about news blurbs and trends to watch and/or act on. That is what's in store for this week's Fantasy Finish Line podcast with your hosts Jason & Dave Mike.

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Dave & Mike evaluate some curious comments on the reinstatement of Josh Gordon, and interview the inimitable William Bendetson of BestPatsCoverage concerning his world-famous voice and the status of his Patriots press credential.

The one where... the guys take a look at what's to come in 2019, all before they take a trip back! Dave & Mike talk John Hughes, Mario Party, Super Mario Brothers 3, Wayne's World, and more! Follow us!  @DayBackIn --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/BackInMyDay/message

Dave & Mike are joined by the hostile guest Leah Dobbs to talk about our soggy loss in Ohio, the win in New England and the tough loss to FC Dallas at the Benz. We discuss each player and grade them so far, but have some hope no that chances are being created. Atlanta United has 28 games left, how can we turn this around?

We had an eventful night due to David relieving his boules in his pants. Enjoy.

Golf Talk Radio with Mike & Billy 06.09.18 - Clubbing with Dave!  Mike, Billy, Dave and Nicki's 2018 US Open Picks.  Part 4 Golf Talk Radio with Mike & Billy is brought to you by Best Hole-In-One, Nicki Anderson, Realtor, Hawaii Condo, The Patrons Caddy,  Slickstix.com, McGaughey Health Group,  Taylor Made Golf, Sundale Country Club , McPhees Grill, Orange Whip Golf, Paso Robles Golf Club , and The Paso Robles Inn- use code GOLF TALK. Visit Golftalkradio.com for the latest show information, contests, videos, iPhone and Android Apps and more! If you are interested in advertising with Golf Talk Radio with Mike & Billy email us at info@golftalkradio.com

WGN's Scott King joins the guys to discuss a recent article he wrote for Chicago Magazine on White Sox DH Matt Davidson. Hear if Scott thinks Davidson with survive the rebuild, and learn Matt Davidson's true passion. King also reveals some insight into White Sox broadcaster Jason Benetti and his sense of humor, and explains what his first interaction with White Sox legend Paul Konerko was like. Recorded in The Broadcast Basement, host Chris Lanuti brings in some of his friends, Dave & Mike, to his 9-foot homemade oak bar in his basement on the South Side of Chicago to discuss his favorite team - The Chicago White Sox. Every episode is "30 Minutes Of Good" on the White Sox. This was the second of two experimental shows that originally aired on The Broadcast Basement Podcast Feed. New shows to come very soon. Subscribe now!

Dave interviews Mike Maddock, who is a serial entrepreneur, an author and a gifted speaker whose purpose is to inspire and empower curiosity. Mike loves to solve problems with disruptive ideas. This passion for problem solving led him to establish Maddock Douglas, Inc. in 1991. Maddock Douglas has become an internationally recognized innovation consulting firm. Since establishing MD, Mike has been the founding partner in four other firms including Ringleader Ventures, a company that invests in early stage startups that have solved the challenges of large enterprises in the insurance and healthcare industries. Mike is a featured columnist for Forbes, a contributor to Bloomberg BusinessWeek and the author of three books about innovation - Free the Idea Monkey, Brand New: Solving the Innovation Paradox, and Flirting With the Uninterested—Innovating in a “Sold, Not Bought” Category. He is also a past Chapter president of both the Entrepreneurs Organization and Young Presidents Organization. Last year, Mike has opened for President Bush (43), President Clinton and the five of the Sharks from TV’s Shark Tank ––so he believes in bipartisan innovation.

The only thing you have to do to get it is ask the people you're already selling. Sounds a little too good to be true, right? Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. If you're knocking down 10-15 personal home and auto policies every week, you just need to close one final expense policy to do it. Now, if you're one of those P&C guys that swore off life insurance years ago, this sale should get you back at the table. That's what I wanted to talk to my new friends Mike Quaranta and Dave Nyborg at Oxford Life to find out just how easy it might be. Connect with Mike and Dave Mike on LinkedIn Dave on LinkedIn P.S. Elevate 18 is getting closer everyday, if you don't have a ticket, the regret might be too much to live with.

The only thing you have to do to get it is ask the people you're already selling. Sounds a little too good to be true, right? Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. If you're knocking down 10-15 personal home and auto policies every week, you just need to close one final expense policy to do it. Now, if you're one of those P&C guys that swore off life insurance years ago, this sale should get you back at the table. That's what I wanted to talk to my new friends Mike Quaranta and Dave Nyborg at Oxford Life to find out just how easy it might be. Connect with Mike and Dave Mike on LinkedIn Dave on LinkedIn P.S. Elevate 18 is getting closer everyday, if you don't have a ticket, the regret might be too much to live with.

Golf Talk Radio with Mike & Billy 03.17.18 - Clubbing with Dave! Mike, Billy, Dave Schimandle and Jim Delaby, PGA discuss their favorite teaching aids.  Part 4 Golf Talk Radio with Mike & Billy is brought to you by the Nicki Anderson, Realtor, Mighty Green Organic Carpet Cleaners, The Patrons Caddy,  Slickstix.com, McGaughey Health Group,  Taylor Made Golf, Sundale Country Club , McPhees Grill, Orange Whip Golf, Paso Robles Golf Club , Las Vegas Golf, The Game and Health IQ - use code GOLF TALK. Visit Golftalkradio.com for the latest show information, contests, videos, iPhone and Android Apps and more! If you are interested in advertising with Golf Talk Radio with Mike & Billy email us at info@golftalkradio.com

Golf Talk Radio with Mike & Billy 01.06.18 - The Delabratory, Jim Delaby, PGA Professional on Goals & Resolutions.  All 2018 Major Picks by Jim, Dave & Mike.  Part 5 Golf Talk Radio with Mike & Billy is brought to you by the The Patrons Caddy,  Slickstix.com, McGaughey Health Group,  Taylor Made Golf, Sundale Country Club , McPhees Grill, Hanger Golf Training Aid , Paso Robles Golf Club and Health IQ - use code GOLF TALK. Visit Golftalkradio.com for the latest show information, contests, videos, iPhone and Android Apps and more! If you are interested in advertising with Golf Talk Radio with Mike & Billy email us at info@golftalkradio.com

The Buffalo Bills have an opportunity to knock the New Orleans Saints off of a six game win streak at New Era Field. Will the Bills offense come to life against a hot Saints defense? Madden Draft league is fun especially in franschise mode with friends, Dave Mike and Kevin rail on their loves for Madden along with flaws and horrible losses. Dave talks about bartering house work for Mikes Madden School.  NumbBillsFan.com GrandStandSportsNetwork.com PunchDrunkSports.com

Golf Talk Radio with Mike & Billy 7.01.17 - Clubbing with Dave!  Mike, Billy, Nicki and Dave make their 2017 Open picks!  Part 4 Golf Talk Radio with Mike & Billy is brought to you by the USGA, The Patrons Caddy,  Slickstix.com, Premier Irish Golf Tours, Taylor Made Golf, Sundale Country Club , McPhees Grill, RiverLakes Golf Club   Hanger Golf Training Aid , Orange Whip Wedge and Paso Robles Golf Club. Visit Golftalkradio.com for the latest show information, contests, videos, iPhone and Android Apps and more! If you are interested in advertising with Golf Talk Radio with Mike & Billy email us at info@golftalkradio.com

Dave & Mike take on the conflation of intelligence and character and they further plumb the depths of "We Didn't Start the Fire."

Dave & Mike take a question from someone whose sibling is open to faith but thinks that because they're into science they can't believe. They also take on "Bread-Crumbing" and they Hansel & Gretel their spouses.

Dave & Mike take on the controversial cultural phenomena known as ghosting & the guys make fun of the dumb tweets of one of America's leading public intellectuals.

Big Changes are coming to Rural Development October 1st 2016. Mike Archer and I get together to talk about them in this interview. Dave: I wanted to talk about the changes coming up next week with the Rural Development loans, can you tell us a little bit about RT loans? Mike: Absolutely! A Rural Development loan is one of our favorite products here in Jackson. We are rural community and RD is designed for people purchasing homes this type of community. It is a fantastic product. It's a 0% down; interest rates are fantastic. They do charge funding fees which were going to talk about in a minute. They do not have Private Mortgage Insurance but they do have a monthly guarantee fee, but no PMI. Dave: So zero down? Mike: Zero down. Dave: A lot of people think that it has to do with farms. Mike: Actually we cannot do farms on this product. With RD loans anything income producing does not qualify. It's designed for people purchasing a home, a single-family residence within a rural area. Dave: It's really based on where the home falls on the map that USDA designates? Mike: Exactly there's a map, that will be linked below, so just plug in your property address and it tells you if you're eligible, it very simple. Dave: Mortgage 1 is one of the largest providers of that type of loan in Michigan? Mike: We are a market leader in the RT lending which were all very proud of. Dave: Mike could you talk a little bit about the changes that are coming up for October. Mike: October first we have huge changes in the RD funding fee. Rural Development charges an upfront funding fee very similar to a VA loan for people that know what a VA loan is like. RD charges a funding fee of 2.75 percent which is financed into the loan. That fee is dropping from 2.75 to one percent. Dave: That's a huge savings. Mike: On $150,000 loan that's a savings of about $2,600 dollars. Dave: That's a lot of money! Mike: Also, the monthly guarantee fee is dropping from .50 Percent to .35 which is a savings of about ninety dollars a month. Dave: On that hundred fifty thousand loan? Mike: Right Dave: That's not a lot, but it's something and Mortgage Rates are so low right now. Mike: Rates are fantastic right now, again near historic lows, and who know where rates are going. It's a tremendous time to take advantage of this product especially. Dave: We have branches all over Michigan but if they want to reach you directly here in Jackson, how would they go about doing that? Mike: In Jackson we have an awesome website its www.mortgage1jackson.com or our phone number here 517-315-4626. http://eligibility.sc.egov.usda.gov/eligibility/welcomeAction.do?pageAction=sfp

In which Dave & Mike argue that the philosophical naturalism behind many "scientifically" minded skeptics of religion is actually anti-scientific at its core. They also welcome their first dead guest and engage in a disastrous lightning round of movie trivia.

Golf Talk Radio with Mike & Billy 1.2.16 Clubbing with Dave, Mike & Billy's 2016 PGA Tour resolutions - Part 4 Golf Talk Radio with Mike & Billy is brought to you by ForeThePatrons.NET, Vegas Golf, The Game, Slickstix.com, Premier Irish Golf Tours, Adams Golf, Sundale Country Club , McPhees Grill, and Paso Robles Golf Club. Visit Golftalkradio.com for the latest show information, contests, videos, iPhone and Android Apps and more! If you are interested in advertising with Golf Talk Radio with Mike & Billy email us at info@golftalkradio.com.

Dave Schimandle joins Mike & Billy in studio to discuss the 2015 US Open.  Special offer: visit www.ineedtheball.com and type in "Golf Talk" when making a purchase to receive FREE SHIPPING & 10% off your purchase!  Golf Talk Radio with Mike & Billy is brought to you by Ineedtheball, Slickstix.com, Premier Irish Golf Tours, Adams Golf, Sundale Country Club , McPhees Grill, and Paso Robles Golf Club. VisitGolftalkradio.com for the latest show information, contests, videos, iPhone and Android Apps and more! If you are interested in advertising with Golf Talk Radio with Mike & Billy email us at info@golftalkradio.com.

Jim Delaby, PGA Professional Co-hosts with Mike Brabenec.  It's the Short Game Show!  Pitching tips,  with Dave Schimandle, Special offer: visit www.ineedtheball.com and type in "Golf Talk" when making a purchase to receive FREE SHIPPING & 10% off your purchase!  Golf Talk Radio with Mike & Billy is brought to you by Ineedtheball, Slickstix.com, Premier Irish Golf Tours, Adams Golf, Sundale Country Club , McPhees Grill, and Paso Robles Golf Club. VisitGolftalkradio.com for the latest show information, contests, videos, iPhone and Android Apps and more! If you are interested in advertising with Golf Talk Radio with Mike & Billy email us at info@golftalkradio.com.

Core Love was injured in a car crash as a child. He lost all of his memory. This led him on a rebuild process which allowed his to spend years in altered states talking to beings form other dimensions, downloading sacred geometry that he has now produced and sold over 1 million copies of worldwide and has allowed him to live the most extraordinary life. Core is a unique being and in this episode Dave & Mike interview Core on: His past and how he recieved his giftHow he uses sacred geometry whilst sleeping to access higher statesHis view on quantum phyics and the metaphysicalHis ability to gain healing physically and spiritually from what he teachesHis global community of souls in higher states This is a very cool episode: Visit Core at www.corelove.net

The 2nd hour of the 12.14.13 program begins with Clubbing with Dave from www.slickstix.com.  Mike Mixson from the viral YouTube.com video Mike's Golf Shop - WE SELL GOLF calls into the show!  Mike & Billy continue with their favorite Xmas gifts and play some golf trivia.  Golf Talk Radio with Mike & Billy is brought to you by Slickstix.com, Lateral Line Putter, Adams Golf, The Links at RiverLakes Ranch Golf Course , Microfiber Greens Towel, McPhees Grill, Golf Tournament In A Box, and Paso Robles Golf Club. Visit Golftalkradio.com for the latest show information, contests, videos, iPhone and Android Apps and more! If you are interested in advertising with Golf Talk Radio with Mike & Billy email us at info@golftalkradio.com.

After 10 weeks of travelling the world from Perth in Australia to Prague in the Czech Republic, Mike Handcock and Dave Rogers ran events in numerous cities trying to discover what created the 'X' Factor in Entreprenuership. On this show we feature the 14 finalists from the various cities and listen to Dave & Mike as they uncover the secrets of creating entrepreneur 'X' factor as they found them during the tour. This tour had over 25 special guests from Billionaires to Rock Concert Promoters to spiritual teachers who had stepped away from the corporate world. All the learnings come together in a fascinating final show where YOU can VOTE for the ultimate X factor winner.  To VOTE go to: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/DVTD3ZP or visit the website www.entrepreneurxfactor.com

What attitude is required to win something like a World Cup? As teams strive for the World Cup Rugby prize at the moment we talk to Dr Tom Mulholland about what is required to perform at a world class level in anything you do. Dr Tom has been affiliated with the FIJI and Taranaki Rugby teams. He is well known for his whole concept around healthy thinking, healthy life and there is no doubt this best selling author, TV star and medical professional will deliver a world class interview with hosts Dave & Mike. You will learn: Why you can be hungry to be negative insead of positive How to minimise stress and anxiety when it counts Hi to identify unhealthy emotions How to manage internal conflict A sought after trainer and speaker Dr Tom is fitting in this interview between his stints on the stage and at A&R at Auckland Hospital where he sees the result of 'getting itb wong' daily.

Why are sacred sites sacred? Who built them and why? What purpose did they have? What is in common with them? What are Ley Lines and how do they work? What is 2012 and the Mayan calender about? Join Dave Rogers and Mike Handcock (who have trekked and learnt, written and talked about sacred sites together for the past 6 years) for a very special webinar. Dave & Mike will cover the above questions as well as give insights and distinctions into: - Sacred Geometry - The disturbances to our planet of recent times - The great cycle and the Mayan calender - The link between sites in Sumeria, Egypt, Peru, Mexico, China and elsewhere. The correlation of these sites and the energy grid that effects us all. A wonderful hour of distinction, questions answered, spiritual information and nourishment for the soul. If you ever wondered why you were born when you were then this may be the place to find out.