Curious to Serious

In this episode, I talk with Gina Gratza, who specializes in psychedelic-assisted facilitation.In our conversation, Gina tells us about the many different organizations she is involved in and the work she does with them, including psychedelic integration and coaching, being an Oregon Psilocybin Facilitator, working with the Social Neuroscience and Psychotherapy Lab, and serving as Program Coordinator and Lead Educator at InnerTrek.Gina also highlights many of the influential experiences and trainings that inform the work she does from an internship at a treatment center for eating disorders to trainings in eye movement desensitization and reprocessing (EMDR), Internal Family Systems (IFS),  sensory psychotherapy, and Marriage and Family Therapy (MFT).Gina also shares how she came to psychedelics after attending Burning Man and having an enlightening experience. This leads our conversation to recognize the infinite paths one can take to finding their place in the psychedelic field as well as exploring consciousness. We also touch on the importance of recognizing our shadow selves and the shadow side of psychedelics.Finally, Gina reflects on the future of psychedelics and her hope for the Oregon Psilocybin Facilitation program to inform future programs in other states and the vision for psychedelics to promote deeper community healing.Time Stamps:(4:21) Gina's involvement in various organizations within the psychedelic field(7:51) The importance of working with women and creating community spaces for identity expression in psychedelic integration and support(25:14) How psychedelics play a role in Gina's work: doing your own work with psychedelics and consciousness and logistics of having two businesses while being a licensed therapist(46:27) Internships and trainings that influence Gina's work(57:27) Advice on how to find trainings and grow your skillset(1:08:40) How Gina became curious about psychedelics: Burning Man, integrating into the underground nightlife  in Los Angeles, and recognizing the different ways to engage in plan medicines and psychedelics(1:19:04) The shadow side of psychedelics: navigating psychedelic hype, managing expectations, the variety of modalities for healing trauma and exploring consciousness(1:41:12) Future of the psychedelic field and Gina's work(1:49:47) Gina's last piece of advice: remember to playLinks:Social Neuroscience and Psychotherapy LabCora CenterChariotInnerTrekOregon's Legal Psilocybin Website: Trainings:EMDRSensory psychotherapySomatic experiencingIFSGrief workConnect with Gina:Website: www.ginagratza.comLinkedInInstagram: @gina.gratzaTo learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/To donate and support Psychedelic Grad: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/psygradMusic by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/Presented by Psychedelic Grad.

In this episode, I talk with Jonathan Robinson, the author of 14 books and a marriage and family therapist located in California.In our conversation, Jonathan tells us about his work in bringing together MDMA experiences and therapy. He discusses how his protocol is unique to other work being done with psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy by emphasizing therapeutic modalities.We also talk about Jonathan's online course on MDMA facilitation and how he created it for anyone passionate about helping others heal. Additionally, we talk about Jonathan's newest book,  Ecstasy as Medicine, a valuable resource filled with 40 years of knowledge and experience to aid others in healing and self-discovery.We cover Jonathan's journey to finding meditation and psychedelics in pursuit of healing his trauma from growing up in a dysfunctional family and his masters thesis research on MDMA therapy in the 1980s.Throughout our conversation, we highlight valuable advice from Jonathan, like 5 second methods for gratitude and happiness and finding supportive communities to help ourselves strengthen our weaknesses.Finally, Jonathan reflects on the future of psychedelics and how he plans to continue to provide accessible knowledge and education to those interested in helping others.Time Stamps:(4:44) Jonathan's work as a marriage and family therapist and how he integrates MDMA into his practice and how he keeps his work legal(8:46) The value of doing MDMA therapy over zoom and how to manage safety and challenging experiences in a virtual therapy session(17:51) What makes Jonathan's protocol of MDMA therapy different from the MAPS protocol(24:04) Jonathan's online MDMA facilitation course - what is it and who is it for?(32:21) Perspectives on therapists and sitters having experience with psychedelics when working with patients or clients(34:58) Jonathan's newest book - Ecstasy as Medicine(44:10) The beauty of Jonathan's parents trying MDMA(47:04) How Jonathan found psychedelics - healing trauma from a dysfunctional family to studying psychology at the University of California Santa Barbara(51:23) A 5 second method  for gratitude(59:02) Jonathan's master's thesis on MDMA therapy (1:00:18) Additional education and the value of experiential learning - undergraduate degree in Psychology and a non-accredited PhD in recreational pharmacology(1:03:30) Advice on finding a balance between experiential knowledge and formal education - finding supportive communities to strengthen your weaknesses(1:09:05) The future of psychedelics and Jonathan's desire to continue educating others(1:16:55) Jonathan's last advice - keep exploringLinks:Healing with MDMA Course: https://dandelion.events/e/mdmacourseBook Ecstasy as Medicine: https://ecstasyasmedicine.com/Website: XTCasmedicine.comPodcast - Awareness Explorers: https://www.awarenessexplorers.com/Website: https://findinghappiness.com/To learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/To donate and support Psychedelic Grad: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/psygradMusic by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/Presented by Psychedelic Grad.

In this episode, I talk with Christi Meyers, the Founder and CEO of Flow Integrative, a ketamine infusion clinic in San Diego, California.In our conversation, Christi tells us about Flow Integrative as a form of practicing medicine that provides ketamine infusion therapy, as well as Flow Institute as an educational platform. She discusses the characteristics that make Flow Integrative unique, including its holistic wellness model in bringing together the mind, body, and spirit.We also talk about how Christi's diverse background in fire jumping, emergency medicine, and teaching led her down a path to learning about ketamine as a tool to “help the help,” which birthed the idea of Flow Integrative.Throughout our conversation, we highlight valuable advice from Christi, like the importance of sitting with ketamine for those interested in providing it to patients. Finally, Christi reflects on the future of psychedelics and her hope for the continued evolution of ourselves so we can better serve the greater good of humanity.Time Stamps:(5:45) What is Flow Integrative and how it is shifting the practice of healthcare by connection the mind, body and spirit with oneness(9:13) The importance of IV ketamine infusions as a modality of administration(14:06) What is it like to be a patient of Flow Integrative? - meeting patients where they are at so they can heal themselves(22:25) Ketamine regulation and insurance in California and employee-driven benefits through Dr. Bronners(30:46) The set and setting of ketamine therapy at Flow Integrative(34:56) Christi's journey in fire jumping, emergency medicine, and teaching that led her to ketamine as therapy(50:20) Working with other plant medicines in therapy and the ability for them to deprogram and evolve human consciousness(59:05) Tapping into yourself to find your path and purpose through medication, fasting, and sitting with the medicine(1:5:07) The future of the psychedelic field - continuously evolve, find your tribe, and “If it doesn't resonate with you, you don't have to stay there to find your people" (1:28:53) Additional insights for listeners - Flow Integrative is working on opportunities for volunteering and internships for those interested in working with the medicine(1:31:22) Contact informationLinks:Flow Integrative: https://flowintegrativeketamine.com/Flow Integrative for Physicians: https://flowintegrative.org/our-teamDirect Line to Flow Integrative: 909-735-FLOW (3569)Forces of Habit: https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674010031To learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/To donate and support Psychedelic Grad: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/psygradMusic by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/Presented by Psychedelic Grad.

In this episode, I talk with Dr. Howard Lipp and Ena Vie.Dr. Howard Lipp and Ena Vie have been working as underground facilitators of plant medicine for several years. In our conversation, they speak about how they were called to plant medicine and found each other through music.We also talk about opening up about facilitating plant medicine ceremonies and the challenge and importance of it.Ena shares her experiences from studying Indigenous Science at Naropa University and how walking the Red Road shapes her plant medicine work now. Dr. Howard Lipp discusses the value of exploring his experiences in facilitation during his PhD program in Metaphysical Humanistic Science.We also cover topics of integration, community, and the sentient role of plants. Finally, Howard and Ena reflect on their future in the psychedelic field as continuing to provide integrative support for others.Time Stamps:(04:11) How Howard was called to plant medicine, found his way to Ena through music, and introduced Ena to plant medicine(06:18) How Ena's experience with walking the Red Road and plant medicine provided her an opportunity for rebirth and a sense of peace after leaving the structured framework of religion(20:01) The essential role of integration in bringing the Devine moments of psychedelic experiences into everyday life(35:21) Coming out about underground ceremonial facilitation - why now and why is it important to Howard and Ena(46:06) Howard and Ena's website, book, and podcast(49:55) Community and the need for connection as a basis for integration(01:02:03) The sentient nature of plants to teach us(01:16:15) Ena's education at Naropa University, earning a Master's Degree in Indigenous Science, and learning from indigenous elders in France while walking the Red Road(01:21:03) Howard's PhD in Metaphysical Humanistic Science - how this unique program allowed him to integrate his experiences with plant medicine facilitation with academic inquiry(01:28:57) Howard and Ena's future in continuing ongoing integrative support for other facilitators and participants in the psychedelic field(01:35:39) Where to find Howard and Ena's music(01:37:18) Last piece of advice - breath through the experience and recognize how each experience is a square of a mosaic that informs every other experience Links:Website: https://enaandhoward.com/Contact Form: https://enaandhoward.com/contact/Music links: https://enaandhoward.com/music/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@EnaVieandHowardLippFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/enaviehowardlippInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/enaviehowardlipp/To learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/To donate and support Psychedelic Grad: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/psygradMusic by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/Presented by Psychedelic Grad.

In this episode, I talk with Mariya Punay.Mariya is working towards becoming a licensed psychotherapist in California. In our conversation, Mariya speaks to the meticulous process of working on becoming licensed by the Board of Behavioral Sciences (BBS) and the many challenges she's faced throughout the process.She also speaks to the essential need for BIPOC representation in mainstream therapy and mental health treatment to create more accessible treatments for everyone.Mariya shares how psychedelics found her and guided her to do therapeutic work. We talk about what transpersonal psychology is, how she landed at Sofia University studying for her PhD and how she brings together the mind, body, and spirit in her practice of Associative Marriage and Family Therapy (AMFT).Finally, Mariya reflects on what her future of practicing Transpersonal therapy looks while serving her community and provides some much-needed advice on loving ourselves and others and reconnecting with nature.Time Stamps:(05:31) Valuable organizations to Mariya's experience - Process Therapy Institute, her company One Brilliance(07:44) An overview of becoming licensed through the Board of Behavioral Sciences (BBS) to practice psychotherapy legally in California (25:10) The essential need for BIPOC representation in the therapy community and how her identity coming from a military family and animistic cultural background influences her therapeutic practices(46:58) How psychedelics found Mariya and guided her from studying geography to psychotherapy and pursuing a Master's degree in Counseling Psychology (concentration in AMFT) and then a Ph.D. in Transpersonal Psychology at Sofia University(1:07:08) What is Transpersonal Psychology and how Mariya sees it coming together with counseling and therapy(1:24:57) Mariya's future in psychedelic therapy - serving her God children and her community(1:31:43) Mariya's final advice - “you have to keep it going, keep it flowing”Links:Crown and Chakra Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/613FdzlTX7ytd8Rl4M2mSO?si=3f8f8b2bee674ed0Sofia University MA Transpersonal Psychology: https://www.sofia.edu/courses/ma-in-transpersonal-psychology/Website and Socials: https://linktr.ee/themariyakatrinabeingInsight Timer: https://insighttimer.com/mariyakatrinaEmail: MariyaKatrinaPunay@gmail.comTo learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/To donate and support Psychedelic Grad: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/psygradMusic by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/Presented by Psychedelic Grad.

In this episode, I talk with Gina Giorgio.Gina wears many hats within the psychedelic space as founder of the North Carolina Psychedelic Policy Coalition, the Director of the Students for Sensible Drug Policy (SSDP) Mentorship Pipeline, a Communications and Policy Specialist for NisonCo, a contributing writer for Psychedelic Spotlight, and the Founder and CEO of the Mushroom Lifestyle brand Smush.Our conversation covers topics like finding the balance between working in the psychedelic space and graduate school and how Gina started her own company by tapping into academic networks and resources.Gina also shares her journey from studying Psychology at High Point University to diving into her psychedelic interests with Hamilton's Pharmacopeia.We also discuss the ins and outs of policy related to psychedelics and cannabis, looking at what makes them similar yet unique.Throughout our conversation, Gina offers gems of advice for anyone interested in policy or communications work in the field.Finally, Gina reflects on her role in the psychedelic field and her interests in public education, policy development, and building her company, Smush.Time Stamps:(05:10) An overview of each of the companies Gina is involved with and her role at each of them (Students for Sensible Drug Policy, NisonCo, Psychedelic Spotlight, the North Carolina Psychedelic Policy Coalition)(10:52) How being a part of each organization has helped her reach her goal of working in the psychedelic field(16:05) Finding balance working in the psychedelic field and being a graduate student(21:10) The adventure of starting her own company, Smush and tapping into university resources(32:07) SSDP's Psychedelic Mentorship Pipeline(38:32) Fostering Gina's psychedelic interests from Hamilton's Pharmacopeia and the intricacies of psychedelic interests while in college(54:15) Cannabis work with NisonCo and similarities and differences with psychedelic policy development(1:07:58) Contemplating Gina's future academic routes and the value and challenges of getting a PhD(1:16:59) Final advice - mentorship(1:20:34) Gina's hopes for the future in public education and communication and building SmushLinks:SSDP Mentorship Pipeline: https://ssdp.org/our-work/psychedelic-pipeline/Curious to Serious with Vilmarie Fraguada Narloch: Spotify, Apple, GoogleNorth Carolina Psychedelic Policy Coalition: https://healingpolicy.org/Gina's Work at Psychedelic Spotlight:Rest and Restore: A Journey Into the Legal Entheogenic Ceremony Space in the U.S.: https://psychedelicspotlight.com/rest-and-restore-a-journey-into-the-legal-entheogenic-ceremony-space-in-the-u-s/5 Psychedelia Books Our Staff Loves: https://psychedelicspotlight.com/best-psychedelic-books-our-staff-loves/Smush: https://www.sm

In this episode, I talk with Sapha.He is a practicing Cuarandero and a Recovery Consultant at Sacred Rebels Recovery, a peer-led addiction recovery program for men housed at the Nihue Rao Spiritual Center in the Peruvian Amazon.In our conversation, Sapha highlights the uniqueness of Sacred Rebels in providing alternative recovery options for people who feel unsupported by standard recovery programs.We also discuss the importance of learning about plant medicine practices from indigenous practitioners and addiction recovery from those who experience it.Sapha takes us on a journey, telling us how he went from working in Canada's oil and gas industry and living with addiction to how an LSD experience drastically changed his life perspective, influencing him to seek treatment and eventually find his way to psychedelics. He also spent two years studying Social Work at Vancouver Island University while organizing harm reduction efforts before moving to the Amazon to train as a traditional curandero in the Shipibo tradition under his teacher Maestro Ricardo Amaringo. Sapha highlights the value of formal university education and lived experience with addiction, recovery, and traditional training in his work.Finally, we finish our discussion with a look data Sapha's concerns and vision for the future of the psychedelic field, including making psychedelic treatment ethical, affordable, and accessible.Time Stamps:(5:06) Sacred Rebels - a peer-led addiction recovery program for men in the Amazon teaching about ayahuasca in the Shipibo tradition(12:51) Sacred Rebels success rate so far(25:11) Where does the Sacred Rebels name come from and the importance of paying respect to indigenous cultures and practices in plant medicine and psychedelics(35:37) How Sacred Rebels is working to make the recovery program accessible to people who might not otherwise have access to it(40:07) The partnership between Sacred Rebels and Nihue Rao - a community-based relationship of reciprocity(49:54) How others can become involved in Sacred Rebels, people in recovery, or other indigenous healing and practices(58:09) Sapha's journey from addiction to recovery and the value of obtaining knowledge through lived experience(1:26:00) Studying Social Work at Vancouver Island University - going back to school, exploring psychedelic topics in the classroom, and supportive mentors(1:37:41) The future of the psychedelic field and psychedelic addiction treatment - striving for ethics, affordability, and accessibility(1:44:06) Final advice - seek community and mentorship in the space you want to work in(1:48:07) Contact informationLinks:Sacred Rebels: https://sacredrebelsrecovery.com/Nihue Rao: https://nihuerao.com/Email: hello@sacredrebelsrecovery.comEmail: sapha@sacredrebelsrecovery.comInstagram: @sacredrebelsrecoveryThird Wave Psychedelic Retreats Directory: https://thethirdwave.co/directory/Sacred Rebels, Iquitos, Peru, opens doors to men in recovery: https://www.growopportunity.ca/sacred-rebels-iquitos-peru-opens-doors-to-men-in-recovery/Why Connecting to the Earth May Be a Vital Part of Psychedelic Healing: 

This episode is the second in our occasional “About Us” series, where we feature members of the Psychedelic Grad team. In this episode, Gabby sits down with Andrew Mcmillian, the Community Meetings Organizer at Psychedelic Grad. We talk about Andrew's experiences in research labs at the University of South Florida (USF) while earning his Bachelor's Degree in Psychology.   We reflect on some lessons he learned from transcribing interviews and handing out flyers for Gabby's (Psychedelic Grad co-founder and Curious to Serious co-host) dissertation research. Finally, we discuss Andrew's future in psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy and his interest in working with indigenous populations in Alaska. Time Stamps: (2:40) Andrew's role at the Community Meetings Organizer at Psychedelic Grad (3:35) Research experiences at USF  (9:55) Working towards a career in psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy (16:14) Additional training as an EMT to bridge the time between his undergraduate degree and graduate degrees (21:24) Last thoughts for listeners: Look into studying psychedelics in Alaska with Andrew (22:08) Contact information Links: Crisis Center of Tampa Bay EMT Apprenticeship Program: https://www.crisiscenter.com/transcare-uma/ Insta: mac_millan Email: amcmillan789@gmail.com To learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/ To donate and support Psychedelic Grad: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/psygrad Music by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/ Presented by Psychedelic Grad.

In this episode, I talk with Hadas Alterman. She is the Director of Government Affairs at the American Psychedelic Practitioners Association (APPA), which is working to build accessibility in clinical psychedelic therapy by establishing standards for training therapists to do this work. In our conversations, we talk about Hadas' work with the Psychedelic Bar Association, which links communities with stakeholders like lawyers and policymakers related to psychedelics, and her role in co-founding the Plant Medicine Law Group. We discuss Hadas' academic and educational journey from the University of California Los Angeles (UCLA) to the University of California Santa Cruz and how her life experiences, including being arrested during a protest, influenced her to study law. Hadas demonstrates the value of formal education along with life experience in gaining skills and knowledge. She also offers exceptional advice throughout our conversation on the value of a solid and supportive community and being your true authentic self. Finally, Hadas reflects on the future of the psychedelic field and her desire to serve others and hopes for advancing psychedelic therapies while reducing their criminality. Time Stamps: (3:05) What is the American Psychedelic Practitioners Association (APPA)? (15:13) What students would benefit from joining APPA, and what are the benefits of joining? (21:08) Psychedelic Bar Association (45:27) The Plan Medicine Law Group (1:00:10) Advice: finding balance in life (1:07:17) Advice: be your true authentic self (1:14:12) Hadas' educational journey started at UCLA and then she moved to UC Santa Cruz. At one point she gets arrested during a protest which influenced her to go to law school. This highlights the value of formal education and life experience (1:35:52) Advice – the value of a support system in growth and development (1:42:34) Advice – finding alignment between the body, mind, and spirit (1:44:59) The future of psychedelics and Hadas' role in it (1:51: 44) Last piece of advice – find a supportive friend group (1:54:24) Contact information  Links: American Psychedelic Practitioners Association: https://www.thepsychedelicassociation.org Psychedelic Bar Association: https://thepsychedelicbar.org The Plant Medicine Law Group: https://www.plantmedicinelaw.com Email: hadas@thepsychedelicassociation.org To learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/ To donate and support Psychedelic Grad: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/psygrad Music by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/ Presented by Psychedelic Grad.

This episode is the first in our occasional “About Us” series, where we feature members of the Psychedelic Grad team. In this episode, Emma talks with me, Gabby Lehigh, Psychedelic Grad Co-founder and Curious to Serious co-host. We talk about my recent achievement of successfully defending my doctoral dissertation and getting my Ph.D. in Anthropology. We explore how I came to study psychedelics for my dissertation research and why I chose transformative psychedelic experiences at music events.  We discuss how my positionality played a role in my data collection and analysis and some of the challenges in doing social science research at music festivals. I also present a timeline of what the research process looked like for me and how I prepared for my defense.  Finally, I briefly cover two of the most exciting research findings. Time Stamps: (4:18) How Gabby come to study transformative psychedelic experiences at music events for her dissertation research (12:22) The challenges of interviewing participants at music festivals (18:00) The most challenging part of data collection (19:48) How positionality impacted the data and analysis (24:04) How were the defense questions from the committee informed or not informed by psychedelic experiences (28:24) Ph.D. timeline (31:02) Preparing for the defense (37:18) Summary of two of the main research findings  Links: Email: gabby@psychedelicgrad.com Psychedelics Today's Vital Course: https://www.psychedeliceducationcenter.com/a/aff_9p71gl26/external?affcode=80460_0s5vb-xp To learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/ To donate and support Psychedelic Grad: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/psygrad Music by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/ Presented by Psychedelic Grad.

In this episode, I talk with Sam Banister. He is the co-founder and Chief Scientific Officer at Psylo, a biotech company in Australia that develops different classes of pharmaceutical psychedelics to help treat patients with serious mental health disorders. In our conversation, we talk about Sam's journey into psychedelics by learning about Albert Hoffman and Timothy Leary in his teenage years. We discuss Sam's academic journey from an undergraduate degree in chemistry and pharmacology to a Ph.D. in medicinal chemistry to a postdoc at Stanford. Sam offers valuable insight into the many roles of mentors and the value of building personal and professional networks. He also speaks about how he transitioned from academia to the private sector by starting Psylo with Josh Ismin. Finally, Sam reflects on Psylo's future in the psychedelic world and the importance of the for-profit and non-profit sectors in future developments. Time Stamps: (4:35) What is Psylo? (4:57) What is a biotech company? What does Psylo do in the biotech industry? (6:26) How Psylo is unique from other biotech companies by focusing on the deregulation of the serotonin signaling systems in the body and developing three distinctive classes of drugs for mental health treatment (16:18) Sam's role at Psylo and what he does there (20:53) How Sam became interested in drug development and psychedelics at a young age (26:31) Sam's college career of studying chemistry and pharmacology in his undergraduate, medicinal chemistry in his Ph.D., and landing a postdoc at Stanford (32:05) How the higher education system works in Australia (40:21) Important advice, lessons, and challenges related to mentors (57:48) How Sam was recruited back to Australia to run an academic lab and then decided to move to the private sector and co-found Psylo (1:02:41) Sam's role in starting Psylo and adjustments he had to make to fit his new position (1:12:00) The future of the psychedelic space - Psylo's role in it, the cost of drug development, the role of for-profit and non-profits in the space, creating equitability through biotech companies (1:24:32) Last piece of advice: “Find something you're passionate about.” (1:26:25) Contact information Links: Psylo website: https://psylo.bio Psylo Merch: https://psylo.dasautomat.com Psylo Twitter: https://twitter.com/psylo_bio Psylo LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/psylo/ Email: sam@psylo.bio Sam's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sambanister/ Psychedelics Today's Vital Course: https://www.psychedeliceducationcenter.com/a/aff_9p71gl26/external?affcode=80460_0s5vb-xp To learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/ To donate and support Psychedelic Grad: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/psygrad Music by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/ Presented by Psychedelic Grad.

In this episode, we talk with Kaitlin Robertson.She is the CEO of Cacti Therapeutics, a biotech company developing FDA-approved psychedelic therapies for chronic pain and sexual dysfunction. Kaitlin received her Master's degree in Human Development and Psychology from Harvard University and has professional experience in trauma care and business finance. We discuss Kaitlin's passion for helping people experience growth and transformation through the adversity of spiritual, sexual, or attachment traumas.Time Stamps:(2:10) What is Cacti Therapeutics (drug discovery, treating pain, Blackbox, the traditional preclinical drug candidate process, and *fundraising*)(19:00) Kaitlin Seamore Roberson and her network (how she met her co-founders at Harvard, the intellectual capital of your community, and what her current CEO position at Cacti entails)(29:00) Being a woman in a position of power within the biotech community and how her networking and communication skills have prepared her for this role. Kaitlin's advice: take the leap, apply for the job, volunteer at the lab, raise your hand at the conference, and always self-advocate.(32:00) (brief technical difficulty) finishing 27:00 timestamp topic and moving onto innovation. How do drug discovery biotechs like Cacti influence the broader psychedelic/biotech space? Can taking 2nd and 3rd generation psychedelic compounds to clinical trials and medicalization destigmatize the landscape for plant-based or 1st generation psychedelics? What possible impacts on equity, accessibility, and education do novel compounds have on the fundamental use and medical value of psychedelic medicine in western medical systems?(43:00) What limiting factors or obstacles are not addressed by introducing novel compounds into the psychedelic network? We discuss 1) the time needed for western indoctrination of psychedelic medicine, 2) the shortage of policy and providers for patient care, and 3) support systems for physiological and psychological manifestations of psychiatric ailment.(51:00) Kaitlin advises those entering the psychedelic space or any new field: set goals and shoot for the moon. We also discuss her learning experience with podcasts, conversations, and courses (like Psychedelic Today's VITAL program)(53:00) Contact information and closing messagesLinks:Cacti's website: cactitherapeudics.com**For access to Cacti's executive summary, please email Emma at emma@psychedelicgrad.com **Kaitlin's email: Kait@cactitx.comKaitlin's Instagram: @KaitlinRobersonKaitlin's LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kaitlinroberson/To learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/To donate and support Psychedelic Grad: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/psygradMusic by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/Presented by Psychedelic Grad.

In this episode, I talk with Sa'ed Al-Olimat.He is the founder of PsiloHealth, co-founder and Board Director of the Psychedelic Pharmacists Association, and a community pharmacy manager at CVS. In our conversation, we talk about Sa'ed's many roles in the psychedelic space, including founding Psilohealth, an organization dedicated to education, legislation, and integration of psilocybin-supported care and his role in the Psychedelic Pharmacists Association (PPA), while also being a community pharmacy manager.We discuss how Sa'ed's success in the field blossoms from past psychedelic experiences and the challenges to integrating them, and how it influenced his curiosity in psychedelics and led him to create and join many psychedelic organizations.Sa'ed gives us insight into his educational background in pharmacy at Duquesne University.Finally, Sa'ed reflects on the future role of specialty pharmacies in psychedelic care and the need for community systems of care.  Time Stamps:(3:35) PsiloHealth - an organization dedicated to education, legislation, and integration of psilocybin-supported care(5:04) What makes PsiloHealth unique from other organizations(6:08) PsiloHealth's Psilocybin Peer Supporter Certificate Program(17:56) The Psychedelic Pharmacists Association (PPA) – Sa'ed's role in creating it and a discussion on the role of pharmacists in psychedelic care(29:24) Sa'ed's everyday Clark Kent job – a pharmacy manager(35:51) Sa'ed's origin story – how he became interested in psychedelics through personal experience(55:15) Studying pharmacy at Duquesne University and teaching his family about psychedelics using religious and cultural frameworks(1:06:55) The role of specialty pharmacies in the future of care and the importance of community care systems(1:17:37) Contact information(1:18:23) Last piece of advice: “Let's do this together”Links:PsiloHealth website: https://www.psilohealth.coPsilocybin Peer Supporter Certificate Program: https://www.psilohealth.co/ppsDiscount code: psychedelicgradPsychedelic Pharmacists Association: https://psychedelicpharmacist.orgLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alolimat/To learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/To donate and support Psychedelic Grad: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/psygradMusic by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/Presented by Psychedelic Grad.

In this episode, I talk with Heather Wickman.She is the co-founder of Untethered with her husband, Colby. They offer unique integration services with horses and partner with organizations worldwide to offer plant medicine experiences for individual growth initiatives.In our conversation, we talk about Heather's work in the corporate world as an executive coach who works with CEOs and corporate executives to help them reach their full potential as leaders.We discuss how Heather left the corporate world and experienced ayahuasca which reconnected her to her passion for horses and drove her to create Untethered.Heather offers unique life lessons and experiences on education and entrepreneurship and also speaks to what it is like working with her husband in the psychedelic space.Finally, Heather reflects on the future of expanded integration services for those seeking plant medicine experiences while offering the advice to follow our hearts along our own path. Time Stamps:(3:11) What is Untethered?(4:53) How horses are an integral part of the integration process(9:46) How Untethered works with plant medicine(11:42) What a full retreat looks like working with plant medicine and integration(14:17) The pre-peak stage(16:04) The plant medicine retreats(19:35) The integration process – Immunity to Change(27:09) Investment for participating in the Untethered program(30:03) Breaking out of identity belief systems – Heather's story from the “corporate climb” to redesigning a life she wanted to live(37:07) Heather's education (44:05) Additional education and Earth School(47:34) Advice on education for others(53:09) Helpful resources from Heather's journey to Untethered(1:00:32) Working with her husband, Colby(1:06:09) The future of the psychedelic space(1:10:43) Last piece of advice – “Follow your heart”Links:Untethered Website: https://beuntethered.coInstagram: heatherwickmanphdFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/heatherwickmanphdTo learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/To donate and support Psychedelic Grad: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/psygradMusic by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/Presented by Psychedelic Grad.

In this episode, we talk with Steven Millar. He is a recent master's graduate from Glasgow University and an aspiring psychedelic-assisted therapist. In our conversation, we talk about Steven's academic experiences at Glasgow University, studying Philosophy and Spanish during his undergraduate and Psychology for his master's degree. We also discuss Steven's qualitative research on integration related to psychedelic experiences and the challenges he faced in his project. Since graduating, Steven talks about finding a job as a psychosocial therapy support worker for the National Health Service in the UK.  Finally, Steven offers valuable advice to our listeners interested in getting started in the psychedelic world and reflects on his hope for the future of psychedelics.  Time Stamps: (2:43) How Steven's interest in consciousness led him to study philosophy (5:00) How philosophy connects to psychedelics (13:08) Studying Psychology at Glasgow University (16:02) Steven's qualitative research at Glasgow University on psychedelic integration while partnering with the Psychedelic Health Professionals Network (24:48) The value of qualitative research (33:06) Challenges of the master's program and doing research (38:17) What's next: working as a psychosocial therapy support worker with the National Health Service in the UK (43:27) The importance of networking and the Psychedelic Health Professionals Network in Scotland (46:17) The process of finding a job after graduation (49:29) Steven's ultimate goal in the psychedelic field (51:03) Advice for others (56:01) Steven's hopes for the future of the psychedelic field (1:02:41) How to contact Steven Links: Psychedelic Health Professionals Network: https://psychedelicnetwork.org.uk You can connect with Steven through email at stevenjbmillar@icloud.com To learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/ To donate and support Psychedelic Grad: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/psygrad Music by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/ Presented by Psychedelic Grad.

In this episode, we talk with Daniel Tarockoff. He is a partner at Vine Ventures; an early-stage venture fund focused on psychedelics.  In our conversation, we examine Daniel's work at Vine Ventures. We also talk about venture capital funds, Vine Ventures' reciprocity pledge, and their fundraising efforts for MAPS. We also cover Daniel's journey from the Berkeley School of Business, his internship, and his eventual full-time position at Vine Ventures. Daniel offers lots of advice for networking, persistence, and finding your direction in the psychedelic space. Finally, we end the conversation with a discussion on the future of the psychedelic field and Daniel's perspective on improved mental health treatment using a diversity of psychedelic and non-psychedelic modalities. Time Stamps: (3:06) Daniel's role at Vine Ventures (4:31) What makes Vine Ventures different from other venture funds? (8:51) General overview of venture capital (11:12) Details on Vine Ventures' reciprocity pledge (13:20) Fundraising for MAPS (23:45) Daniel's journey to Vine Ventures (29:40) Advice: finding what drives you and networking (36:06) Persistence as a skill (39:42) Resources for staying updated on psychedelic-related information and businesses (42:34) The challenges and importance of finding the right working environment (49:15) The future of the psychedelic field: improving medicines and treatment protocols, accessibility, developing psychedelic and non-psychedelic related treatments (1:09:05) How to connect with Daniel Links:Vine Ventures Website: https://vine.vc You can connect with Daniel through email at dt@vine.vc To learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/ To donate and support Psychedelic Grad: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/psygrad Music by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/ Presented by Psychedelic Grad.

In this episode, we talk with Ryan “Ghenigho” Rich. He is the Founder and Ceremony and Detox Lead at Root Healing Iboga Retreats and Detox.In our conversation, we explore Ryan's work at Root Healing. We talk about how Root Healing is unique by centering their Iboga retreats in Bwiti tradition while also exploring the scientific efficacy of Iboga.We also discuss how Ryan's life experiences motivated him to start Root Healing and how his background in business gave him the skills to get things started. Additionally, Ryan offers assistance and advice in finding connections within the plant medicine community.Finally, we end the conversation with a discussion on the future of the psychedelic field and Ryan's reflection on allowing traditional groups to control the procurement of sacred plant medicines.Time Stamps:3:02 What is Root Healing?3:35 What is Iboga?8:22 Differences between psychospiritual and detox retreats13:34 How Bwiti tradition, reciprocity, and equitable access make Root Healing unique22:04 Key research on Iboga and its alkaloids in addiction treatment30:34 Treating intergenerational trauma with Iboga36:12 Bridging Western science and traditional science37:26 The legality of Iboga retreats41:19 A timeline of Root Healing retreats54:33 Ryan's motivation and journey for starting Root Healing1:07:38 Ryan's formal education in business and training in Bwiti tradition1:10:13 Finding traditional knowledge1:18:42 Overcoming challenges1:21:25 Ryan's advice: Trust yourself1:23:24 The future of psychedelicsLinks:Root Healing WebsiteEffects of Iboga AlkaloidsIboga vs. IbogaineIboga Science ResourcesYou can connect with Ryan through email at ghenigho@roothealing.com.To learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/To donate and support Psychedelic Grad: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/psygradMusic by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/Presented by Psychedelic Grad.

In this episode, we talk to Christine Ziemer. Dr. Christine Ziemer is a professor of psychology at Missouri Western State University, faculty advisor of the SSDP Chapter, and excellent harm reductionist. Christine became interested in psychedelics and MAPS during her time in graduate school while working for her Ph.D. in psychology. Since then it has been an interest of hers, and over time she grew braver and more confident in her serious dedication to the field of psychedelics and transpersonal psychology. The mainstream growth of psychedelics catapulted her interest and led her to propose new courses to cover the optics of Transpersonal Psych and Psychedelics. These are now regularly offered psychedelic elective courses, and they have compounded interest over the years by the students at Missouri Western! Christine is a healer, educator, and mindfulness leader. She is incredible, and I am so lucky to have had the chance to speak with her today. Christine is actively seeking community in the psychedelic field. She wants to connect with and help other educators become harm reductionists in their respective high schools, college, or community center. That being said, she wants to connect with them through this podcast–– if that educator is you or someone you know…. Please reach out to her directly! Her email is cziemer@missouriwestern.edu Hope you enjoy it! - Emma Time Description: 4:53 Christine's Introduction + her academic background 15:18 Taking student interest and building the curriculum around it. How Christine academically aligns course topics and assignments to harm reduction skill-building18:50 Identifying & overcoming stigma. Meeting students where they are at: creating the inclusive and exhaustive ‘psychedelic' syllabus 28:13 Christine calls them “The Systems of Miseducation''–– how to overcome the obstacles like drug-abstinence models and shaming people who use drugs in order to undo the harms of The War on Drugs. 30:27 How can all of this information (current and historic indigenous psychedelic use, The War on Drugs, neurobiology, chemistry, modern drug policy and related discrimination, medicalization, legalization, psychotherapy…etc) be fit into one, 15-week semester?39:10  Making the academic composition of Harm Reduction filled with fun, collaborative, inclusive, skill-building opportunities.  47:45 Introduction to Christine's transpersonal psychology course and the biopsychosocial-spiritual model and non-psychedelic means of arrival like lucid dreaming, meditation, ecstatic dance, birth, and death. 51:30 Why are psychedelics in the spotlight of scientific interest?  Discussing the benefits of controlling variables like dose that are unmeasurable within other transpersonal experiences.53:58 Next Steps = Spreading HR within and outside the conventional college education systems. Brainstorming how to overcome barriers to entry. 1:01:10 Closing and ContactResources: Contact Christine:  cziemer@missouriwestern.edu To learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join the newsletter, go to (https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/)Music by Alex Hahn (https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/)

In this episode, we talk to Max C Wood. Max is a graduate student studying developmental neuroscience and psychopathology. Max spent last year studying at the Anna Freud Center in London, and is now currently at Yale - researching into the impact attachment styles have on a psychedelic treatment design.Broadly speaking, his passions lie in the integration of experiential and reductionist approaches - to help alleviate human suffering. He aspires to be a psychotherapist, and set up a holistic healing centre, drawing from multiple perspectives to personalize treatment - with a particular focus on psychedelic healing.This podcast interview focuses on pharmaceutical studies (including psychedelics) and highlights interpersonal factors within clinical trial design, from the perspective of a clinical researcher. Max's fluency in this topic is evident, and he strongly encourages listeners to reach out to him directly.  (Contact: Max.c.woody@gmail.com)! Time Description:0:00 History of Anna Freud Research Center, From children's orphanage to University Central London Center5:26 Developmental Neuroscience and Psychopathology Program andthe history of Psychopathology and Psychoanalysis10:46 1 year at UCL in academia and 1 year at Yale doing research. How UCL pairs students with mentor in a field of common interest. How Max found himself at Yale doing Ketamine research on patients suffering from Borderline Personality Disorder.12:47 His responsibilities as a masters student on a double blind clinical trial with psychedelics, an active placebo, and psychotherapy.16:19 Max describes what elements of his current clinical research has inspired his potential thesis that focuses on the symptom-relief in the placebo group. (Bonus: A great conversation with a placebo group participant).29:48 Why did Max choose the Developmental Neuroscience and Psychopathology at UCL Masters of Research Program? Why understanding develop is foundational to understanding psychedelics and crucial to properly help treat adults.37:38 How has the Masters of Research program so far informed Max's outlook on the future of the psychedelic field, and how neuroscience or psychodynamics may play key roles. How healing goes beyond the patient and to the systems that they operate within, understanding the healing potential of systemic therapy.54:49 What's next for Max's clinical psychedelic research future? 57:42 Advice to the Audience!Resources:Developmental Neuroscience and Psychopathology Masters of Research Program at University of Central London (https://www.ucl.ac.uk/prospective-students/graduate/taught-degrees/developmental-neuroscience-and-psychopathology-mres)Anna Freud Biography & Center (https://psychoanalysis.org.uk/our-authors-and-theorists/anna-freud)(https://www.annafreud.org/ucl-postgraduate-study/ucl-postgraduate-programmes/)Internal Family Systems Institute (https://ifs-institute.com/)Peter Fonagy Biography (https://www.ucl.ac.uk/psychoanalysis/people/peter-fonagy)To learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/Music by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/Presented by Psychedelic Grad.

In this episode, we talk with David Drapkin.He is the Director of Operations and Strategic Growth at Psychedelics Today.In our conversation, we explore David's work at Psychedelics Today, including his role in creating Psychedelic Today's newest course, Vital.We discuss David's history in economics and how a near-death experience changed his path to psychotherapy and social work. Additionally, we talk about bridging the personal sphere with the professional sphere and what that can look like in practice. Further, we discuss how psychedelics influence our religious paths and what that means for our professional careers.David provides advice on skill-building, networking, and job hunting throughout our conversation.Finally, we end our conversation with a reflection on the future of the psychedelic field and David's desire to change the narrative around the War on Drugs.Time Stamps:3:09 David's role at Psychedelics Today5:23 Psychedelics Today's new program, Vial19:08 Additional resources offered by Psychedelics Today20:43 The journey from economics to social work31:23 Merging the personal and professional sphere with psychedelics by doing our shadow work43:19 Finding a job at Psychedelics Today and the role of networking52:59 How working on our individual shadows allows us to address socially collective shadows1:00:27 The role of music and the senses in the psychedelic experience1:02:38 Psychedelics influence on spirituality1:06:49 Changing the narrative on the War on Drugs1:17:53 Advice on building skills1:26:02 Future development of the psychedelic field1:33:42 How to connect with DavidLinks:Vital Psychedelic Training -https://www.psychedeliceducationcenter.com/a/aff_9p71gl26/external?affcode=80460_0s5vb-xpPsychedelics Today Website -https://psychedelicstoday.com/You can connect with David through LinkedIn or email at info@psychedelicstoday.comTo learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/Music by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/Presented by Psychedelic Grad.

In this episode, we talk with Sasha Cuff.He is a Somatic Relational Practitioner with Nectara.For the past 25 years, he has been sitting therapeutically with people with all types of trauma, tirelessly seeking to understand the roots of suffering and disease. He observed that while some people got better, many of them were not improving at all. This led him on a path to explore and study a multitude of healing modalities.In our conversation, we explore Sasha's work including coaching and therapy, facilitating retreats, and running his own practice. We also discuss the Masterclass Sasha created for Nectara on the Physiology of Trauma.We talk about Sasha's journey of leaving academia to pursue alternative modes of therapy and healing in Traditional Chinese Medicine, Ayurveda, energy healing, muscle testing, talk therapy, vibrational medicine, channeling, martial arts, shamanism, and psychedelic therapy. Additionally, Sasha explains how his role of being a loving father of 3 boys taught him more about therapy than any psychology class.Sasha also offers advice for those interested in following a similar career path including exploring different modes of healing and finding “what lights you up.”Finally, we end our conversation with a reflection on the future of the psychedelic field and Sasha's interest in the creation of psychedelic centers to support people through all phases of the psychedelic journey.Timestamps:2:36 What is Nectara?4:02 Sasha's role as a guide5:57 Sasha's Masterclass: The Physiology of Trauma24:38 Navigating somatic touch in therapeutic work36:17 Leaving academia to pursue alternative modes of therapy and healing47:27 Networking and apprenticeships: learning alternative modes of therapy and healing and finding “what lights you up”1:01:16 Integrating psychedelics into alternative therapies1:08:18 Advice for others interested in a similar career path1:12:59 Psychedelic centers as the future of psychedelics1:20:33 How to connect with Sasha1:22:04 Final thoughtsLinks:Nectara Masterclass - https://www.nectara.co/masterclasses/physiology-of-trauma?via=mitchellNectara Website – https://www.nectara.coYou can connect with Sasha through email at sasha@sashacuff.comTo learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/Music by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/Presented by Psychedelic Grad.

In this episode, we talk with Jon Dean.He is a Postdoctoral Fellow in the Brain Mechanisms of Pain & Health Laboratory at the University of California, San Diego. Jon obtained his Bachelor's in Chemistry at Youngstown State University, and his Master's and Ph.D. in Molecular & Integrative Physiology from the University of Michigan, where he studied the role of the prefrontal cortex in anesthesia and biosynthesis and secretion of endogenous N,N,-dimethyltryptamine in rodent models. To translate his basic science skillset to human and clinical populations, Jon is now conducting neural imaging studies on the neuropsychological effects of meditation, cannabis, and psilocybin on acute and chronic pain and stress as well as for the promotion of empathy and compassion. Time Stamps:1:54 Welcome Jon Dean! An overview of his past and current research 5:47 Co-founding the Psychedelic Neuroscience and Therapy Group at University of Michigan 9:10 From musician to neuroscience researcher 11:30 Embodying Curious to Serious, the curiosity of neurochemistry and neuropsychology. “Brain as a receptor and receiver for chemicals and altering consciousness.”15:46 Meat and Potatoes: How did Jon get here (and was getting a master's and Ph.D. worth it)?  26:50 Slight digression about Wim Hoff. And self-identifying bias as a mindfulness or meditation researcher. Advice on limiting bias in research from Jon's PI, “let's find out the truth, if we find out it's not true, great, we did our job.”  30:00 Getting along with the person you work with, philosophical alignment with your advisor, and finding “your fit.”34:46 DMT clinical research for the future. Translating Jon's prior rodent research to investigate clinical and therapeutic outcomes related to DMT and the human brain. 39:45 Rodent research, the invasive and ethical conservation of all life. 42:32 You don't need to reinvent the wheel. Slightly altering existing techniques (like fMRI) to answer new research questions. And Jon's long term goals as a clinical neuroscientist  47:10 Reaching out to people whose work you are interested in, clinical neuroscientists [generally] are interested in helping new researchers navigate the field. 49:00 [Brief Redbull tangent] and summarizing how we can stay ethical in research with humans and all life forms53:37 Closing thoughts, and some info about Jon's new hobby: surfing. “Take care of yourself and each other.” Contact information Jon Dean:  j1dean@health.ucsd.eduTo learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/Music by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/Presented by Psychedelic Grad.

In this episode, we talk with Brian Pilecki.He is a psychologist and researcher at Portland Psychotherapy Clinic, Research, and Training Center.Brian provides integration and harm reduction therapy for clients currently using psychedelics on their own. He is also involved in a clinical trial of MDMA-assisted psychotherapy for the treatment of social anxiety disorder.In our conversation, we cover Brian's work as a psychiatrist and discuss his passion for reducing the stigma of psychedelic use by clients within his field.We also discuss how Brian developed an interest in psychedelics and his educational journey from the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS) to Fordham University and a post-doc at Brown University. Additionally, Brian provides critical advice for managing graduate school and transitioning into a career.Then, we take some time to talk about the organizations' Brian is involved in, including the Portland Psychedelic Society and the Association for Contextual and Behavioral Science.Finally, we end our conversation with a reflection on the future of the psychedelic field and Brian's hopes for expanded accessibility of psychedelic psychotherapy to all communities, especially those who historically don't have access to traditional mental health care.Timestamps:2:22 What is a clinical psychologist?4:11 What is a Psy D?5: 44 How Brian integrates psychedelics into clinical psychology9:27 Clinical trials on MDMA-assisted psychotherapy for treating social anxiety disorders16:58 Brian's studies on reducing stigma among psychiatrists22:37 Brian's first experience with psychedelics and his undergraduate experience26:50 Brian's studies at the California Institute of Integral Studies30:38 PhD studies at Fordham University39:41 Building skillsets through clinical experience42:40 Post docs45:50 Resources and advice from Brian's academic journey53:06 Portland Psychedelic Society56:41 Special Interest Group in Psychedelics within the Association for Contextual and Behavioral Science59:55 Hopes for the future of the psychedelic field1:02:56 Bonus question: should mental health professionals have experience with psychedelics or altered states of consciousness to work with clients and psychedelics?1:08:20 Brian's podcast: Altered States of Context1:09:27 How to connect with BrianLinks:Portland Psychedelic SocietyAssociation for Contextual Behavioral Science (ACBS)Psychedelic and Non-Ordinary States of Consciousness Special Interest Group of ACBSAltered States of Context PodcastYou can connect with Brian through email at pilecki@gmail.comTo learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/Music by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/Presented by Psychedelic Grad.

In this episode, we talk with Alex Kahn.He recently received his MA in Music Therapy and Counseling from Drexel University.Alex is an advocate for integrating music therapy into psychedelic therapy. In our conversation, we cover how Alex's experiences in playing music in mommy and me classes lead him to pursue a degree in music therapy.We also discuss valuable advice for surviving graduate school and his process of finding a job post-graduation.Finally, we round out the episode with a reflection on the future of the psychedelic field and how he sees himself playing a musical role in the advancement of psychedelic therapy.Timestamps:1:54 What is an MA in Music Therapy and Counseling?6:13 Alex's research on integrating music into psychedelic therapy25:14 Finding music and psychedelics and how they are connected32:24 Navigating from writing music for commercials, TV, and film to mommy and me classes to an MA program in Music Therapy and Counseling41:48 Finding a music therapy program51:59 Challenges and survival tips for graduate school1:03:21 Finding a job after graduation1:16:20 Where does he see himself fitting into the future of the psychedelic field?1:24:14 Bonus question – What is the story behind the creation of Psychedelic Grad's Curious to Serious intro and outro music?1:26:59 Contact informationLinks:Alex Kahn MusicAlex Kahn SpotifyYou can connect with Alex through email: Al@alexkahnmusic.comTo learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/Music by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/Presented by Psychedelic Grad.

In this episode, we talk with Ben Hearn.Ben is a doctoral candidate in Counselor Education & Supervision at the University of Cincinnati and a student at the Center for Psychedelic Therapy and Research. His work focuses on providing advocacy and education within the counseling profession regarding psychedelics and their potential use in therapy as well as specializing in work with the LGBTQ+ population and those who have experienced trauma. He is currently developing a ketamine-assisted psychotherapy clinic and intends to complete his dissertation on the topic of psychedelic integration among queer-identified folx.Time Stamps:1:58 Ben's Introduction2:47 Navigating through the intersections of queerness, religion, spirituality, and science. Ben's possible dissertation5:40 Academia and psychedelics pre- Psychedelic Renaissance, identifying obstacles, stigma, and creative outlets8:35 Introduction to Ben's current work as a psychotherapist at a once- ketamine infusion center turned psychotherapy clinic12:41 What it means to be a facilitator in a psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy program. How mindfulness practices can help facilitators stay grounded. 16:00 What academic tools and theories have helped Ben become a mindful preparation, facilitator, and integration specialist: spotlighting Internal Family Systems (IFS), Acceptance Commitment Therapy (ACT), Humanistic principles, etc. 21:00 Preparation goes beyond the clinic30:30 Where does preparation end and integration begin? Looking at support through the psychedelic healing journey as a continual process. 33:21 Co-creating healing spaces that center patient wellness and individual preferences. How the start-up mindset of Ben's team embodies a growth-centric and patient-forward clinic36:07 Barriers to treatment. Addressing major barriers of psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy like time spent in session. 38:23 How the facilitator role can change the price of KAP44:00 Patient advocacy-- are they consenting to not having psychotherapy? Clinics or Infusion centers48:38 Closing questions: “Where do you see the field in 5 years, how do you plan on contributing to that vision today?”52:31 Closing questions: “What is your advice for aspiring KAP psychotherapists? How could they approach the first contact email?”55:00 Closing questions: “What would 2021 Ben say to 2012 Ben?” 56:38 Ben Hearn's contact info and counselor interest group information--To learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/Music by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/

In this episode, we talk with Jessica Cadoch.She is the Research and Operations Manager at Maya Public-benefit Corporation. Jessica is a liaison working to bridge the for-profit world with not-for-profit organizations while advocating for increased accessibility and knowledge on psychedelics for the general public. In our conversation, we cover how Jessica's personal experiences got her interested in psychedelics and lead her to earn a Master's degree in Medical Anthropology.We also discuss the volunteer positions she's worked in, including MAPS and the Montreal Psychedelic Society, which helped her build an essential professional network and valuable career skills.Finally, we conclude the episode with recommendations on how to get involved in not-for-profit organizations and a discussion on Jessica's hopes for the future of the psychedelic field.Timestamps:1:37 How Jessica became involved in psychedelics and the psychedelic field11:42 What is psychedelic exceptionalism?18:19 What are rites of passage and how do they fit into Jessica's undergraduate research studying psytrance festivals25:37 Life events as psychedelic experiences29:31 Master's research: what happens to people in 12-step recovery who want to start using psychedelics41:06 What is traditional anthropological fieldwork?48:33 Integrating social science into the psychedelic renaissance54:06 Working her way into the psychedelic field through volunteering1:05:19 Non-profit organizations in Denver1:09:37 Hopes for the future of the psychedelic field1:13:13 How to contact JessicaLinks:SSDP Psychedelic PipelinePsychedelic Club of DenverThe Nowak SocietySPORETransformative Psychedelic Experiences at Music Events: Using Subjective Experience to Explore Chemosocial Assemblages of Culture (Participate in Gabby's Study!)You can connect with Jessica through email: jessica@mayahealth.comTo learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/Music by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/

In this episode, we talk with Oskar Bull-Hansen. He is a practicing above-ground underground psychedelic guide in Norway. Oskar provides preparation, psychedelic sessions, and integration services for clients using MDMA and psilocybin. In our conversation, we cover what Oskar's practice looks like including the process of choosing a substance and dose for each patient and how to practice harm reduction. We also discuss how Oskar's personal experiences with psychedelics influenced his transition from a career in information technology and human resources to becoming a full-time guide, as well as the many resources he used to develop his practice. Finally, we wrap up the episode with advice for anyone interested in aboveground underground psychedelic work and a discussion on the future of the psychedelic field.Time Stamps:1:34 What is an above-ground underground guide?5:10 Why practice with psilocybin and MDMA?6:10 How Oskar's work contributes to harm reduction10:06 Determining which substance and dose to work with for each client14:15 How to help patients manage relationships with therapists who are resistant to psychedelic experiences17:12 Oskar's personal experiences with psychedelics that led him to his work as a guide23:49 Resources that were helpful to building Oskar's knowledgebase and practice27:00 Challenges Oskar faced and the role of a strong support system31:57 How Oskar started his practice and developed it into a full-time job34:00 Advice for others wanting to follow a similar path35:41 Answering the question of guides being in altered states during sessions with clients38:21 The future of the psychedelic field and Oskar's place within it44:57 Additional advice for listeners46:36 Contact information47:19 Bonus question: how has COVID impacted Oskar's practiceLinks:Psychedelics Today for Clinicians and Therapists: https://www.psychedeliceducationcenter.com/p/navigating-psychedelics-for-clinicians-and-therapistsSecret Chief Revealed Conversations with Leo Zeff by Myron J. Stolaroff, M.S.Psychedelic Psychotherapy by R. ColemanTrust, Surrender, Receive: How MDMA Can Release Us From Trauma and PTSD by Anne OtherLSD Psychotherapy by Stan Grof, M.D.You can connect with Oskar through email: oskar@psyn.noOr his website: English Norwegian SwedishFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/obullhansenTo learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/Music by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/Presented by Psychedelic Grad.

In this episode, we talk with Vilmarie Narloch, Psy.D as she shares how her journey through addiction research, humanistic healing, policy reform, and academia intersect at her place in the psychedelic field. Vilmarie wears many hats but is best known for her work at Students for Sensible Drug Policy (SSDP) as Director of Education. She received her M.A. in Counseling and Psychological Services at St. Mary's University of Minnesota and went on to pursue a doctorate of psychology in clinical psychology at Roosevelt University (where she also became a member of SSDP). Focused on patient-first clinical work and expanding access to harm reduction services, Vilmarie focused her research on substance use disorder and destigmatizing drug use. With her dissertation, she revealed that students were seeking unbiased, evidence-based information about drugs, and she later delivered by establishing SSDP's national Just Say Know peer drug education program. Vilmarie also launched SSDP's Psychedelic Pipeline, a project that bridges student mentees entering the psychedelic space to mentors who currently investigate psychedelic medicine. When Vilmarie is not ending the war on drugs, she is also co-creating Sana Healing Collective,  a safe haven and patient-forward ketamine assisted psychotherapy clinic. Look out for the next Psychedelic Pipeline cohort, accessible to SSDP members! Contact: Vilmarie@SSDP.COMSSDP Chapters Near you: https://ssdp.org/chapters/Sana Healing Collective: https://sanahealingcollective.org/SSDP Psychedelic Pipeline: https://ssdp.org/psychedelic-pipeline/ Time Stamps:2:19 Vilmarie's academic and research journey in clinical psychology, addiction, and harm reduction, leading to her first year as a member of SSDP as a graduate student at Roosevelt University5:43 Her CIIS experience in 2018 6:12 What is harm reduction? 7:15 Exposure as a student to client-focused practices set a high precedent for harm reduction 8:44 How her desperation to treat a patient-led to one very influential google search 10:32 from SSDP member to Director 14:07 Dissertation turned career, on the creation of an honest drug education program--Just Say Know22:55 Newest SSDP Project, the psychedelic pipeline 24:48 Addressing barriers to mentorship and guidance in academia and research for BIPOC. How SSDP is filling those gaps in the Psychedelic Field. 27:34 Her mindfulness-based practices (her secrets to doing so much and staying healthy)30:45 Being Latina in research and in the psychedelic field. How has identity impacted Vilmarie's vision for the future33:01 On the creation and mission behind Sana Healing Collective, how to make healing collective in today's medical framework 35:33 Addressing modern barriers to care with group-identity integration, community-centered healing, and more assessable treatment options at Sana Healing Collective. 37:54 Mentors and support systems, what they do and where to find yours (for the listeners). How support from her community helped Vilmarie achieve her greatest personal goals in the space40:21 Can SSDP be the support system and community for you43:42 Advice for the listeners and aspiring harm reductionists 44:24 Secret to the community is unlearning competitively amounts peers (competitively =/= connectivity ) To learn more about Psychedelic Grad, go tohttps://www.psychedelicgrad.com/Music by: https://www.alexka

In this episode, we talk with Cody Wenthur. Cody is an Assistant Professor of Pharmacy and Director of the first-of-its-kind Psychoactive Pharmaceutical Investigation Masters of Science Program at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. Cody is also a member of the Psychedelic Pharmacists Association. Cody's lab researches how small-scale molecule drugs affect long-term behavioral changes. In our conversation, we cover the many projects Cody's lab is working on and discuss the details of the new Psychoactive Pharmaceutical Investigation MS Program. We also discuss how Cody's interest in drug development started in high school and the route he took to become an assistant professor getting both a PharmD and Ph.D. followed by a fellowship at the Scripps Research Institute in the Department of Chemistry. We round out the conversation with Cody by providing some advice, a discussion of the Psychedelic Pharmacists Association, and a reflection on the future of the psychedelic field.Time Stamps:1:57 Cody's research on how small scale molecule drugs affect long-term behavioral change5:56 Implications and goals of Cody's research10:42 Masters of Science in Psychoactive Pharmaceutical Investigation at University of Wisconsin-Madison23:44 How Cody became involved in psychedelic research33:11 PharmD versus PhD36:36 Cody's fellowship at the Scripps Research Institute and fellowship advice42:27 Challenges Cody faced in his academic journey45:35 Resources that were most helpful during Cody's academic journey49:37 Psychedelic Pharmacists Association55:12 Reflections on the future of the psychedelic field1:00:54 Additional details on the MS program1:01:44 Contact informationLinks:University of Wisconsin-Madison Professional Degrees & Certificates: https://pdc.wisc.eduUniversity of Wisconsin-Madison School of Pharmacy: https://pharmacy.wisc.eduPsychedelic Pharmacist Association LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/psychedelic-pharmacists-association/You can connect with Cody Wenthur through email:wenthur@wisc.eduOr with his lab through social media: https://twitter.com/wenthurlab?lang=enTo learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/Music by: https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/Presented by Psychedelic Grad.

In this episode, we talk with Mati Castro. She is a neuroscience graduate student at Johns Hopkins University. She works in the basic science field to understand how psychedelics affect brain circuits, specifically the amygdala during rewarded operant behaviors. In our conversation, we cover her academic career of earning Bachelor's degrees in biochemistry and psychology from the University of Texas at Austin and how that experience helped prepare her for her neuroscience research at Johns Hopkins. We also talk about how her grandfather was one of her greatest mentors and the array of professors who supported her in her process of getting into graduate school and her current research. We wrap up the conversation with Mati providing advice to those interested in pursuing neuroscience degrees and a look at the future of psychedelic neuroscience.1:41 Research at John Hopkins studying associative learning in rats8:34 Introducing psychedelics in associative learning studies using DOI16:08 Neurobiological view of addiction: how studying natural rewards fits into understanding addiction in humans25:05 Interest in neuroscience stems from DARE program experiences and Mati's grandfathers' career as an organic chemist29:35 Undergraduate career studying biochemistry and psychology and how it helps Mati as a neuroscience graduate student32:25 The importance of being open and honest about psychedelic interests when applying and interviewing for graduate programs38:00 Mentors that supported Mati throughout her academic career42:20 Advice for individuals interested in studying psychedelic neuroscience45:20 Hopes for the future of psychedelic neuroscience47:44 Last remarks – keep reading the literature49:00 How to contact and connect with MatiYou can connect with Mati Castro on social media:@yerba_matiOr through email: mati.castro.06@gmail.com To learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter go to psychedelicgrad.comMusic by: alexkahnmusic.comPresented by Psychedelic Grad.

Presented by Psychedelic Grad.This episode is with Dr. Rick Barnett. He's a clinical, mental/behavioral health and addiction specialist and founder of the addiction rehabilitation facility, Carter Inc., in Vermont. In this episode, we cover his path from patient to practitioner, the meanings of addiction, the 12 step program, the opioid epidemic, and the role psychedelics play in the healthcare field.More about Dr. Rick Barnett:Dr. Rick Barnett, Psy.D., LADC, founded the non-profit organization CARTER, Inc. in 2015 to expand addiction-related resources in Vermont and beyond. Dr. Barnett is Legislative Chair and Past-President of the Vermont Psychological Association and is a clinical psychologist and addiction specialist in private practice in Stowe, VT. Dr. Barnett has worked as a Clinical Psychologist in nursing homes, hospitals, and outpatient programs and has trained hundreds of health professionals through workshops on addiction and mental health issues over the past 20 years. He is in the long-term recovery of alcohol and substance abuse and is an active advocate for addiction treatment and recovery resources.Dr. Barnett holds a Bachelor's degree in psychology from Columbia University, a Doctorate and Master's Degree in Clinical Psychology, and a Master's Degree in Clinical Psychopharmacology. He is a Licensed Alcohol and Drug Counselor and holds a certificate in Problematic Sexual Behavior (PSB-S) and Gambling Disorder. Dr. Barnett's service goes beyond the clinical world into his community and public policy as he has served on and continues to serve on many communities and government boards and committees.You can learn more about Dr. Barnett on social media:twitter.com/drrickbarnettlinkedin.com/in/dr-rick-barnett/Or on his website: cartervermont.orgTo learn more about Psychedelic Grad, go to psychedelicgrad.com. Music by: alexkahnmusic.com

Presented by Psychedelic Grad.In this episode of Curious to Serious, we interview Carli Domenico, a PhD candidate at Baylor College of Medicine (Houston).She's involved with the Research and Development Spore at the Intercollegiate Psychedelic Society and also works with Tabula Rasa Ventures.Carli is a doctoral student with a background in neuroscience and philosophy. Her research investigates the effects of LSD on memory and visual areas using direct, in vivo electrophysiology recordings in rats. These methods allow insights into the way neural representations of the world become altered and also how these brain regions may interact differently when a hallucinogen is present and also in combination with a 5ht2a receptor antagonist, which is a receptor that modulates the experience of hallucinations. Carli is fascinated by the parallels and divergence between sleep and psychedelic states, and she enjoys musing on the resulting implications for conscious perception. She believes deeply in the healing power of mindfulness meditation and psychedelic therapies, aiming to be an ambassador of accessible information to bridge scientific dialogue and the public in the pursuit of a more peaceful, present civilization.To learn more about Carli, check out https://www.carlifrequency.com/To learn more about Psychedelic Grad, go to psychedelicgrad.com.

Presented by Psychedelic Grad.In our very first episode of Curious to Serious, we interview Joshua White of the Fireside Project, a psychedelic peer support hotline.Fireside Project just officially launched as of April 2021!To learn more about the project, check out FiresideProject.orgTo learn more about Psychedelic Grad, go to psychedelicgrad.com.