Podcasts about shipibo

In this episode of Psychedelics Today, Joe Moore speaks with Dr. Simon Ruffell, a London-based psychiatrist, researcher, and curandero-in-training in the López Mahua lineage of the Shipibo tradition. Dr. Ruffell shares how his early fascination with psychiatry eventually led to a deep disillusionment with the limitations of conventional treatments—and a surprising pivot toward the Amazon. Now working at the intersection of Indigenous healing and clinical research, Ruffell describes his journey from medical school to shamanic apprenticeship. He offers insight into the Shipibo understanding of illness across three planes—spiritual, psychological, and physical—and how these ideas challenge Western frameworks. The conversation explores critical questions about the psychedelic renaissance: Are current clinical models missing the energetic and spiritual dimensions of healing? What are the risks of poorly held psychedelic sessions, and how can Indigenous knowledge guide safer practices? Dr. Ruffell advocates for deep training, cross-cultural respect, and collaborative models—such as pairing Indigenous healers with psychiatrists in clinical settings. He also discusses his work with Onaya Science and Onaya.io, organizations that partner with Indigenous communities to study the effects of ayahuasca, particularly in treating PTSD among military veterans. Early findings from their five-year study show that 84% of participants no longer meet PTSD criteria six months after retreat—a promising signal for integrative approaches. This episode offers a rare look at how science and spirituality can coexist. Whether you're a clinician, researcher, or someone seeking deeper healing, Dr. Ruffell's story invites us to question our assumptions and expand our understanding of what true medicine can be.

Mi huesped en este episodio es Claude Guislain, un antropólogo peruano que pasa la mayor parte de su tiempo con pueblos indígenas en Perú, Colombia y Brasil. Con su primera investigación sobre el uso de la ayahuasca y el chamanismo por parte de los occidentales en Iquitos (2005-2007), inició el viaje que lo llevó a dedicar su vida a tender un puente entre la sabiduría indígena y el mundo moderno. A lo largo de más de quince años dedicados casi exclusivamente a apoyar tanto a curanderos indígenas como a pacientes y exploradores occidentales, ha estado al servicio de los procesos de curación de cientos de personas. Ha estado trabajando y formándose con los Shipibo desde 2013, ayudando a la familia López a construir su propio centro. Fue facilitador y asesor en relaciones indígenas en el Templo del Camino de la Luz (2015-2023). Trabaja y aprende con un mamo Arhuaco desde 2012, con un Jaguar del yurupari del Tubú desde 2016 y con el pueblo Yawanawa de Brasil desde 2018.Hoy es asesor y miembro del Comité Técnico del Fondo de Conservación de Medicinas Indígenas y colabora también con ICEERS, y otras organizaciones, inspirándolas y ayudándolas a tejer sus esfuerzos y dones con los procesos indígenas de base.Notas del Episodio* La historia y esperanza de Claude* La idealizacion de los pueblos indigenas* El renacimiento psicodelico* Curacion y cantos* Contradicciones en el turismo psicodelico* La deforestacion, la demanda y la continuidad del conocimiento* Conservacion biocultural* ICEERS & MSCTareaClaude Guislain - Facebook - InstagramIndigenous Medicine Conservation FundInternational Center for Ethnobotanical Education, Research and ServiceTranscripcion en Espanol (English Below)Chris: Bienvenido Claude, al podcast El Fin del Turismo.Claude: Chris. Muchas gracias.Chris: Me gustaría saber si podrías explicar un poco de dónde te encuentras hoy y cómo el mundo aparece para ti?Claude: Buena pregunta. Estoy, ahora mismo estoy en Rio de Janeiro, donde vivo. Soy peruano y también estudié antropología y dedico mucho mi tiempo a los pueblos indígenas, sobre todo en Brasil, en Colombia y en Perú y he estado trabajando en las Amazonas durante muchos años. Y como veo el mundo hoy, desde aquí, pues con mucha preocupación, evidentemente, pero también por lo que hago con alguna esperanza, Chris: Yeah y pues en esa cuestión de lo que haces y de lo que hemos hablado antes, parece que es un gran camino, un camino de ya [00:01:00] décadas y décadas. Y me gustaría, si podemos viendo un un poco más de ese camino. Podrías comentar un poco de cómo llegaste en este gran momento sea por tus viajes, a otros países, a otros mundos, a otros maestros y maestras. Claude: Sí, claro, a ver cómo te explico. Llevo unos 20 años trabajando con lo indigena en general, pero sobre todo con el tema de espiritualidad, plantas maestras como la ayahuasca y esas cosas, y llegue ahí como, creo que, como la mayoría de personas que hoy en día llegan ahí a la selva, o a buscar estas medicinas como se les llaman, que es una, una cierta o una profunda insatisfacción por nuestra propia cultura, por la respuesta que nuestra propia sociedad [00:02:00] nos puede dar existenciales, diría yo. Es como siempre hay una pregunta que uno se dice, "No tiene que haber algo más. No puede ser eso solamente." Esa propuesta, digamos de occidente, no puede ser solamente eso, debe haber algo más, verdad? Entonces eso me embarcó a mí en una búsqueda desde, no sé cuando tenía por ahí unos veinti, veinti y pocos años.Que me llevó a experimentar estas medicinas como la ayahuasca, el San Pedro, los hongos, no por una cosa lúdica, ni ni evasiva, sino por el contrario, con una curiosidad por otras formas de saber y conocer, . Entonces yo me acerqué a estas medicinas, con curiosidad de entender cómo los pueblos indígenas saben lo que saben. Cuál es el origen de su [00:03:00] conocimimomento verdad?Entonces, estudié antropología. Me alejé de la academia rápidamente porque, me pareció mucho más interesante lo que me enseñaban los abuelos que para la antropología eran mis informantes, verdad? Era como, tenía que a mi informante tal, el informante tal. Y me di cuenta que no, que no eran mis informantes, sino que eran maestros y aprendía mucho más con ellos que lo que me enseñaba los libros, o las clases, o los seminarios, verdad?Entonces decidí mas dedicarme a seguirlos a ellos y a seguir aprendiendo con ellos, y ver de qué manera los podía ayudar a ellos. Estos abuelos, estos sabios indígenas. Y eso me llevó a un camino maravilloso de que hoy en día le llamo "la gente puente," no? O sea, gente que estamos en ese lugar de interface, entre el conocimimomento, la sabiduría que nos queda de los pueblos [00:04:00] indígenas y el mundo occidental, el mundo moderno. Y en ese nuevo tipo de encuentro que está surgiendo hace una década o tal vez dos décadas. Es este nuevo tipo de encuentro de nuestros mundos, verdad? Que hasta hoy era, siempre había sido extremadamente problemático, sino asesino, verdad? La manera con nuestro mundo occidental se encontraba con los mundos indígenas era pues y destructor. Hoy en día nos encontramos en una manera diferente, en el que muchos jóvenes y adultos y gente del norte global llegan en busca de conocimiento, de sabiduría, de cura, de sanación, de alternativas, buscando respuestas que nuestra propia civilización no nos puede dar. Habiendo un hambre, una sed de sentido por algo mayor, pues mucha gente empieza a ir allá con otros ojos, con un [00:05:00] respeto que no creo que había existido antes. Y eso trae cosas positivas y cosas negativas, evidentemente.Parece ser que estamos mal. Hay una gran maldición, que, como todo lo que toca, occidente eventualmente se vuelve en un gran desastre. parece como un súper bonito, súper maravilloso, ilusorio, nos enamora, nos seduce, pero después al poco tiempo nos vamos dando cuenta de las de las terribles consecuencias que traemos, verdad?Pero algo, no sé, algo también está cambiando, algo está mudando. Hay como una cierta madurez de ambos lados, tanto de los del lado indígena como del lado no indígena para encontrarnos desde un lugar en donde podemos celebrar nuestras diferencias y entender que esas diferencias son material para la construcción de un tiempo nuevo, verdad?Entonces esa es la parte que traigo un poco de esperanza. Chris: Ya, qué bonito. Gracias, Claude . o sea, yo siento [00:06:00] mucho de la esperanza, pero también de la desesperación por alguien que ha visitado a varios pueblos indígenas en las Amazonas hace como 15 años de más ya, en ese tiempo esas medicinas fueron llegando poco a poco a la mentalidad colectiva del occidente. Y pues me ha ayudado un montón, no solo por cuestiones espirituales, pero también por reparar el daño que hice a mi cuerpo, por ejemplo, pero también metiendome en esos círculos, en las Amazonas, por ejemplo, pero también mi tierra nativa Toronto, Canadá y otras partes Oaxaca, México. hemos visto poco a poco la descuidado de la sabiduría indígena, las culturas indígenas, las medicinas, y más que nada, las contradicciones que [00:07:00] aparece dentro de el renacimiento" psicodélico. Entonces, ya tienes mucho tiempo en esos no solo respecto a la medicina, pero también en las culturas indígenas en las Amazonas. Me gustaría preguntarte que has visto allá en el sentido de contradicciones, sobre el turismo sobre la medicina, puede ser el lado del extranjero viniendo para sanarse, o igual los locales o indígenas aprovechando al momento.Claude: Contradicciones tienen todas las culturas, tienen contradicciones. Y la contradicción principal es entre lo que se dice, no? Lo que se profesa y lo que uno ve en la práctica no? Es como si tú vas a la iglesia y escuchas al pastor hablando de cómo debe ser un buen cristiano.Y después te paseas por yo que sé por Chicago o por ciudad de México, y ves lo que [00:08:00] son los cristianos y dices wow hay una enorme contradicción, verdad? Es terrible la contradicción Cuando hablamos de los pueblos indígenas y de los conocimientos, de los pueblos indígenas, la sabiduría indígena, parece ser que hablamos desde un lugar de idealización no?Y a mí no me gustaría, caer en eso de idealizar sino tratar de ser muy concreto. Una cosa es la realidad, que es realmente terrible. Vivimos en un momento que es la cúspide, es la continuación de un proceso de colonialismo, de exterminación que no fue algo que sucedió con la llegada de los españoles, y los portugueses y el tiempo de la conquista. Y no fue algo que pasó.Es algo que sigue pasando,. Es algo que [00:09:00] sigue pasando. Como decía el gran Aílton Krenak, un gran líder indígena de aquí de Brasil, y un intelectual, miembro de la academia brasilera de las letras, recientemente. Decía lo que ustedes no entienden es que su mundo sigue en guerra con nuestro mundo. El decía eso. Él lo dice, o sea, ustedes no entienden que el mundo occidental, el mundo moderno continúa en guerra y de, y haciendo todos los esfuerzos para que las culturas indígenas desaparezcan.O sea, en la práctica, eso es lo que estamos haciendo. Entonces, cuando yo hablo de esperanza, hablo porque hay algo que está surgiendo, que es nuevo, pero realmente es muy pequeño. Y como dices tú, cuando, o sea, la expansión de la ayahuasca, del San Pedro, de lo del peyote y de una cierto [00:10:00] respeto y un cierto entendimiento sobre la importancia de los conocimientos indígenas, todavia realmente e no entendemos eso, no entendemos. Y cuando hablamos desde el norte global, y lo que se llama esta el renacimiento psicodélico, cuando hablan de los pueblos indígenas, hay una idealización, sobre todo, es solamente parte de un discurso que es un poco "woke." Es un poco para hacer bonito tu discurso, pero en la práctica no se ve, no, no, no ocupa un lugar importante. Ya está diseñado el camino por donde va esta revolución psicodélica, es extraer los principios activos de las plantas, hacer medicamentos, de hacer una pastilla que va a ayudar a la gente a mantenerse en mejor forma dentro de la locura que propone occidente.Cómo le damos a la gente [00:11:00] herramientas para que se adapten y para que resistan, es el absurdo al que los estamos sometiendo, eso es realmente. O sea necesitamos ya drogas como "Brave New World", no como "soma". Te sientes deprimido? Tómate tus pastillas. Estás cuestionando mucho las cosas, tomate esto para que puedas seguir funcionando y operando y produciendo, verdad?Pero hay una cosa muy, muy clara para mí, es que aún no hemos logrado entender la magnitud de los conocimientos indígenas. Y digo conocimientos, y no creencias porque en general, cuando hablamos de los pueblos indígenas, lo que sabe un chamán, como le dicen, un curandero, o lo que hablan ellos alrededor de su espiritualidad, la gente piensa, "ah, son sus creencias." Y en el mejor de los casos, dice "ay qué bonito, hay [00:12:00] que respetarlo, hay que cuidar sus derechos, y tienen derechos culturales y tienen todo el derecho a creer en lo que creen." Pero cuando decimos creencias, también es una incomprensión porque de creencia tiene muy poco en realidad.Cuando uno estudia más, y cuando uno profundiza sobre lo que sabe hacer un curandero, un ayahuasquero, Shipibo, Ashaninka, Huni Kuin, Karipuna, Noke Koi Kofan, lo que ellos saben, no tiene nada que ver con las creencias. No tiene nada que ver con la adoración religiosa de ciertas deidades. Nada que ver. Estamos hablando de conocimiento profundamente práctico, verdad?Es una acumulación de conocimientos durante generaciones y generaciones por estudiosos de la selva, que se organiza este [00:13:00] conocimiento. Socialmente y además que se transmite con un método. Hay un método muy estricto, muy específico de transmisión de estos conocimientos y de estas maneras de conocer, entonces te acabo de dar una definición no de una religión. Te acabo de dar una definición de ciencia.Entonces, lo que no hemos llegado a entender hasta ahora es que lo poquito que ha sobrevivido hasta hoy de esos conocimientos se asemeja mucho más a una ciencia que a una religión. Es mucho más un conocimiento práctico que una creencia religiosa, verdad? Y en ese sentido, es de suma importancia. Y entonces, cuando tenemos más y más personas tienen esta experiencia, qué es lo que pasa?Mucha gente viene a la selva en Iquitos, he trabajado muchos años, durante años he sido como el centro principal donde he recibido mucha gente para [00:14:00] tomar ayahuasca y esas cosas, y viene gente a sanarse de cosas que en sus países, pues no, nadie los puede sanar de depresiones, de traumas, cosas físicas también, pero sobre todo cosas psicológicas, verdad? Y después vuelven y dice "oh, yo tomé ayahuasca y me curé." "Cómo te curaste?" "Ah, fui, tomé ayahuasca," pero nadie dice estuve tomando con un viejo que todas las noches me cantaba durante media hora. Y después venía en la mañana y me preguntaba cómo era mis sueños. Y después venía con otros remedios y me daba y me hacía unos baños. Y cuando me hacía esos baños me cantaba de nuevo. Y después me daba esto, y me daba esta medicina y me cantaba, y cuando él me cantaba, me hacía ver este tipo de... Nadie habla de eso. La gente dice "yo tomé ayahuasca y el ayahuasca me curó", pero el viejito que estaba cantando solamente parece un accesorio de un viejito cantando.Pero no es así.La mayoría de la gente dice, "Wow, cómo te curaste de eso? Qué pasó? Qué hiciste?"Ah ya tomé ayahuasca. El ayahuasca me curó." Verdad? Realmente yo he escuchado muy poca gente decir "el abuelito, la abuelita, me dio ayahuasca, pero me cantó durante horas, me dio baños, me preguntó mis sueños, adaptó todas las plantas y el tratamiento que iba haciendo según mis sueños, según lo que iba viendo. Cuando me cantaba, me guiaba para ver cosas, o no ver cosas." Parece ser que el abuelito que cantaba fuese un accesorio, decoración. Y no realmente, no le damos crédito al trabajo profundo que ellos hacen, y el conocimiento que ponen en practica. Y no es extraño porque es muy difícil de entender, cómo una persona cantando, me va, me va a curar con un canto, verdad? No, como para nosotros, es muy difícil, no tiene sentido. [00:01:00] Tiene que ser la substancia que tomaste y que se metió en tu cerebro y hizo alguna cosas de conexiones neurológicas. Yo que sé. No puede ser esa cosa, porque para nosotros, ya sería el pensamiento mágico, verdad?Pero como te digo, eso que nosotros llamamos pensamiento mágico para ellos no es un pensamiento mágico. Es un conocimiento muy concreto que se aprende que tiene métodos de aprendizaje. Son conocimientos y habilidades, y capacidades que se adquieren con métodos de transmisión, verdad? Y hasta ahora no hemos logrado darle realmente el lugar que le corresponde a eso.Por el contrario, estamos impactando en eso de maneras muy profundas, y hay una contradicción fundamental que yo veo en lo, en para volver un poco a la pregunta que me haces. En todo este turismo que ha llegado, y [00:02:00] esta fascinación, este interés. Cuáles son los impactos que esto ha tenido en las comunidades indígenas en el mundo indígena, verdad?Entonces yo creo que hay dos cosas que parecen ser un poco contradictorias. Por un lado, hay una gran bendición. Hace 20 años, tú no veías gente de nuestra edad, jóvenes interesados en sentarse con los abuelos y aprender realmente, y ser continuadores de esas tradiciones y cultivadores de ese tipo de conocimientos.La mayoría de gente de nuestra edad, un poco más viejos, hasta la edad de nuestro, gente que tiene hoy día 50, 55 años, 60 años, no querían hacer, no. Querían ser profesores interculturales bilingües, querían ser [00:03:00] profesionales, pertenecer al mundo de los blancos, verdad? Entonces, los viejos, eran de un tiempo pasado que estaba destinado a extinguirse.Entonces, con la llegada de los occidentales y con este interés por esas cosas, ha habido cierto renacimiento y sobre todo, un verdadero interés de la juventud por aprender estas cosas como una alternativa profesional, digamos. Digamos, oye, para qué voy a ser abogado? Si yo, si mira todos los gringos que están viniendo, yo puedo ser esto y me va a ir mejor, verdad?Entonces, por un lado, hay esa parte que, hoy en día vemos, por ejemplo, en los Shipibo, muchísima gente que está aprendiendo, verdad? Muchos jóvenes están interesados, no solamente en los Shipibo, pero sino, pero en muchos lugares en Brasil, en Colombia, en Ecuador, yo veo, veo eso, una juventud que está poco a poco interesándose más y [00:04:00] volviendo a sus propias raíces.Es como, como decir, todo desde que eres niño, siempre te dicen, "los antiguos ser una porquería ya ese mundo acabó, lo único que cuenta es la modernidad y integrarse a la vida urbana, a la vida oficial de esta civilización, ir a la iglesia, tener una carrera, y ser alguien en la vida," verdad?Y entonces era como, y los estados con políticas de esa naturaleza, los gobiernos, los estados de nuestros países, era, pues la cuestión indígena era cómo civilizamos a los indios. Civilizar al indio no es otra cosa que hacerlo olvidar de sus sistemas, de sus culturas, pero como una parte así de como digo, "woke," no como, "ay, que lindo los indios que mantengan sus danzas, que mantengan su folclore, que mantengan [00:05:00] sus ropitas y que mantengan su ciertas cosas que es como bonito, que ellos mantengan como algo pintoresco y algo folclórico," pero sin entender realmente la profundidad. Pero hoy en día, yo creo que en gran medida, gracias a esto, no solamente, es una cosa más compleja evidentemente, pero, la juventud, viendo que hay esta llegada de blancos, de extranjeros, de gringos, no? Interesadisimos por los conocimientos de los abuelos, por la medicina. Y que van y están ahí, dicen "uy acá tiene que haber algo interesante, yo también quiero aprender." Si a los gringos les gusta esto, es porque algo bueno debe haber entiendes? Llegamos a ese punto en que estaba destinado a desaparecer, pero de una a otra manera, hay un renacimiento, verdad? Al mismo tiempo, [00:06:00] en la transmisión de estos conocimientos, como te decía sumamente complejos, sumamente estricta, estrictos métodos de transmisión, pues se ha tenido que simplificar porque los jóvenes no están aptos ya, habiendo ido a la escuela, teniendo un pie en la ciudad. No, no es tan aptos ni tienen el interés, ni las condiciones, ni las aptitudes para realmente entrar en esos procesos como lo podían haber hecho los abuelos, que hoy en día tienen 70, 80 años, verdad, que fueron realmente los últimos. A menos que uno se vaya muy lejos en la selva donde lugares que no tienen mucho contacto, que ellos todavía deben de mantener algunas cosas, pero ellos están alejados también de estos circuitos, Pero entonces, sí, hay una gran simplificación de estos sistemas. Entonces se pierden muchas cosas. Para bien o para mal, no? Mucha gente dice, bueno, por lo menos se está perdiendo toda esta parte de la brujería y [00:07:00] los ataques chamánicos y toda esa cosa, pero a lo cual se le da mucha, mucha importancia que tampoco logramos entender, porque nosotros lo vemos con esa visión judeo cristiana, esa distinción maniquea del bien y del mal, que en los mundos indígenas no es que no exista, sino que es totalmente diferente, no?. Y eso forma parte de esas diferencias que son importantes de entender y de respetar, verdad? Entonces, toda esta parte que nosotros vemos como brujería, como diabólico y tal, tienen su función dentro de un sistema, y que no, tratar de hacerlo desaparecer es hacer desaparecer el sistema mismo, verdad?Porque no lo entendemos. Es lo mismo que pasa, es lo que ha pasado siempre, algo que nos escandaliza, entonces lo queremos cambiar, pero nos escandaliza desde nuestra propia visión del mundo y no estamos entendiéndolo desde la visión de [00:08:00] ellos. No quiere decir que todo se puede relativizar, verdad? Hay cosas que son, pues muy difíciles, no, y muy delicadas, pero en en reglas general, cuando hay algo que nos escandaliza, lo queremos cambiar, sin realmente profundizar en un entendimiento de la función de esas cosas, pues estamos siguiendo los mismos patrones que los curas que llegaban hace 400 años, 500 años. Que decían ah, esto es diabólico. Tenemos que extirpar estas cosas, no? Entonces seguimos haciendo eso. Entonces, por un lado, vemos que hay un renacimiento del interés de la juventud y una reconexión con su propia identidad al mismo tiempo que hay una simplificación algo peligrosa de estos sistemas, quiere decir que los jóvenes que de aquí a poco van a ser los abuelos no saben la [00:09:00] mitad de lo que sabían sus abuelos. Saben lo mínimo indispensable que sirve para darle al gringo lo que requiere, lo que necesita, lo que está buscando, lo suficiente para hacer negocio en realidad y eso no es para culparlos a ellos, sino que es parte del sistema en el que estamos navegando, porque todo funciona así. Para qué te vas a profundizar tanto si con este mínimo ya te alcanza? Sobre todo cuando vemos que muchos gringos, muchos extranjeros van toman ayahuasca unas cuantas veces o hacen alguna dieta, y después se llevan ayahuasca a sus países, se ponen las plumas, agarran su guitarrita, y empiezan a cantar estas cosas como decoración alrededor de esta experiencia y hacen mucho dinero. Y así se ha ido expandiendo la ayahuasca por el mundo, verdad? Y eso cumple su función también. No es para juzgarlo, pero [00:10:00] también hay, es de una superficialidad, muchas veces, hiriente, cuando tú ves lo que sabe un abuelo y lo que ha tenido que pasar las dificultades, las pruebas y las responsabilidades que tiene un curandero amazónico para su comunidad, y los sistemas de rendición de cuentas que son los que más o menos lo mantienen a raya, que uno no puede hacer lo que le da la gana con ese poder, sino que hay un sistema de control, cuando esto sale y se va afuera en estos círculos, medios new age, medios hippie, medio neochamánico, pues toda esa cuestión se pierde y se empiezan a inventar un montón de cosas, y sobre todo, un discurso que es bastante problemático. Entonces surge esta idea que la ayahuasca es la panacea universal, y "la madrecita ayahuasca" me [00:11:00] dijo, y, "esto es lo que va a salvar el mundo." Entonces más personas tenemos que buscar la forma que más y más personas tengan esta experiencia para salvar el mundo verdad? Y la verdad que yo creo que eso no es así. Si fuera así, si fuera por la cantidad de ayahuasca que se toma en el mundo, pues el mundo ya habría cambiado, porque realmente se toma mucha ayahuasca. Cuando yo, el principio de los años 2000 en Europa, era muy raro escuchar de eso no? Hoy en día, en cualquier país europeo, todos los fines de semana tú puedes encontrar una ceremonia de ayahuasca, en todas partes. Eso se ha expandido. Se ha normalizado. Ya es mainstream, ya se volvió mainstream. Pero qué se ha vuelto mainstream? Nuestra propia interpretación, que es bastante problemática sobre esto y no se le ha dado el lugar que le [00:12:00] corresponde a los guardianes de esos conocimientos. Entonces eso es lo que yo tengo para criticar en todo este tema de la revolución psicodélica, que hablamos de psicodélico psicodélico, psicodélico, como la panacea, lo que puede salvar el mundo, pero cuánta experiencia tiene nuestra sociedad con los psicodélicos?Dos generaciones? Máximo? Desde Hoffman, y esa, ya de la generación Beat, de los 50. Vale?, un poco eso. Y entonces, hoy día, tú tienes psychodelic studies en las universidades y formación de terapias con psicodélicos que los enseñan en institutos, de estudios bastante importantes. Y uno se pregunta, pero qué estudia?Qué les enseñan? Qué podemos haber acumulado como conocimiento en esas dos generaciones, siendo que durante más o menos 40 años, esto ha sido o 50 o 60 años. Esto ha sido prohibido. Era [00:13:00] ilegal. Hoy en día se está más o menos legalizando, entonces se puede estudiar más abiertamente, se puede investigar, se puede aprender, se puede experimentar mucho más, pero durante muchos años, era ilegal, era underground, subterráneo, verdad? Entonces, qué es lo que hemos podido acumular como el conocimiento? Es mínimo, es muy superficial, sobre todo si lo comparas con lo que saben allá en la selva, los indígenas en México, los Wixarika allá donde, por donde tu estás, los mazatecos y toda esa gente que tiene conocimiento de los hongos.Eso es una acumulación, de conocimiento extraordinaria. Lo que pasa es que, como son indios, no les damos el lugar. Qué me va, si tú tienes un doctorado en cualquier universidad del mundo y te sienta junto con indios, adentro de uno tiene esa terrible arrogancia que tenemos [00:14:00] los occidentales de decir, si yo soy un doctor, qué me va a enseñar un indio?Entiendes? Y eso, eso demuestra que aún por más que tratamos de idealizar y por más que hay un gran respeto, y algo que esté cambiando, todavía seguimos regidos por un profundo racismo. Un profundo complejo de superioridad, que creo yo, que está la base de los grandes problemas que tenemos hoy en día como humanidad es realmente la arrogancia y el complejo de superioridad que tenemos como miembros de esta civilización, que es extraordinaria, pero también es la que nos está llevando el hecatombe verdad? Es la que está destruyendo el mundo.Entonces, hay verdades muy incómodas que no queremos ver pero es la verdad, a pesar de toda la grandeza que hemos logrado con este, con los conocimientos de nuestra ciencia, es también nuestra misma ciencia la que está destruyendo [00:15:00] el mundo, nuestra manera de entender y de conocer el mundo. Entonces ahora, poco a poco, nos estamos dando cuenta que necesitamos de la participación de estos otros pueblos que tienen otras maneras de ver, de entender, de estar en el mundo, y de conocer, de aprender otras maneras, no? Entonces sucede una cosa muy bonita y extraordinaria cuando juntamos personas que piensan diferente y realmente ya no es una discusión sobre cuál es mejor, cuál sistema es mejor, si mi ciencia o tu ciencia o no, sino que es como complementamos nuestros tipos de conocimiento, verdad? Lo que decíamos también, o sea, a partir de nuestras diferencias, con nuestras diferencias como material, que es lo que podemos tejer juntos, que no se ha hecho nunca, verdad? Entonces, eso es lo que está surgiendo también, pero en un contexto muy [00:16:00] problemático en lo que surgen los intereses económicos, financieros, grandes farmacéutica, grandes capitales que quieren invertir en estas cosas y no se les da el lugar a los grandes detentores de estos conocimientos. Y sobretodo no se les da lugar en el diálogo, ni en la creación de acuerdos, sino que no se le da una participación financiera de lo que se puede recaudar como beneficios a partir de sus conocimientos, verdad? Entonces seguimos reproduciendo ese sistema colonial, ese sistema de explotación del otro y de la tierra, de la naturaleza en beneficio del capital, en beneficio para generar, ingresos económicos, no? Entonces estamos en eso es, es altamente complejo. [00:17:00] Hay cosas buenas y hay cosas negativas. Hay un impacto muy grande también en la Amazonía con toda la llegada de toda esta gente, pero impactos positivos. Yo, yo he encontrado muchos líderes, en Amazonía que me dicen "gracias a ustedes que vienen acá. Nosotros estamos volviendo a nuestras raíces", "Si no fuera por ustedes, ya estaríamos perdidos." Entonces hay algo que está sucediendo, que es algo muy positivo, pero también, como venimos con esos programas, no logramos darle la profundidad que podríamos estar alcanzando. Y que nuevamente, creo yo, que lo que está la base es nuestro terrible complejo de superioridad, que creemos que todos lo sabemos y que, pues somos mejores y que, qué nos va a enseñar, me entiendes? Aunque algo esté cambiando, aunque haya un poco de esperanza, todavía hay mucho camino por delante, [00:18:00] no?Chris: Mm. gracias Claude poder sacar algunos de esos hilos del nudo enorme en que vivimos. Pues sí, yo siento que, una de las cosas menos escuchados en nuestros tiempos de gente que tiene comentarios, opiniones, lo que sea, es, pues "no sé la verdad, no sé" . O sea, hay una una falta enorme de humildad.Creo que de la gente que critica la revolución o renacimiento psicodélico, o la gente que celebra no? O sea, hay una gran falta de humildad igual de tiempo profundo o de conocimiento histórico podemos decir, y como mencionaste, la cuestión de los abuelos y las relaciones que la gente tiene, o sea, las Amazonas y los pueblos indígenas ya por miles y miles de [00:19:00] años con sus lugares.Y como poco a poco se profundizaron su propio lugar dentro de los otros seres en su ecología, en su ecosistema, sus ecosistemas, y que, ese idea de que alguien puede irse a un lugar así. tomar la medicina como es una pastilla nada más volverse o simplemente quedarse y decir que "ah me curó" o algo Pues eso, eso me suena como bastante fascinante, no? Y porque, para mí al final también tiene que ver con la relacion con los ancianos o sabios de un lugar o sea, el maestro mío me dijo una vez que son los jóvenes que hacen ancianos, que hacen sabios que hacen como elders no? No son los viejos.O sea, los viejos son el vehículo para la función de esa sabiduría. Pero son los jóvenes que tienen que preguntar y [00:20:00] eso. Parece que está muy, muy perdido en el mundo occidental. O sea más bien la gente urbana, la gente del norte, la gran mayoría son migrantes o familias de inmigrantes.Entonces, yo siento que la relación que tenemos con la medicina, que es solo medicina, es una pastilla o aunque sí, es un ser que no, como dijiste, como no tenemos a veces la capacidad de entender, el lugar del abuelo, abuela humana en esa relación, pues hay muchas, muchas direcciones que podemos ir en ese sentido, pero también lo que he visto, lo que he escuchado, he leído un poco es sobre la deforestación de las medicinas, las plantas sagradas, y que la gente va [00:21:00] domesticando poco a poco las plantas y que las plantas domesticadas no tienen la misma fuerza, en parte porque están cosechadas o cosechados más y más joven, más y más antes de su maduración, y que eso también quizás tiene algo que ver con nuestra contexto del occidente como la necesidad o rapidez o velocidad en que necesitamos conseguir y consumir la medicina y ser curado, etcétera. Entonces entiendo que también has estado trabajando por algunas organizaciones que trabajan específicamente en la conservación de las medicinas, y también, otras que trabajan en la educación e investigaciones sobre lo etnobotánico. Entonces, me gustaría preguntarte sobre y ICEERS y MSCF tiene [00:22:00] un, una perspectiva fija o quizás como desde tu perspectiva, cómo vamos en ese camino?Claude: Mira, esa es una problemática, que corresponde a ese mismo sistema, no? O sea, en otras palabras, por ejemplo, cuando surgió este fondo, esta fundación, que es el fondo para la conservación de las medicinas indígenas o INC por sus en inglés. La primera inquietud que surgió, o sea el primer impulso y el primer, el primer capital semilla para para lanzar esto era exactamente esa idea no? Estas medicinas se están expandiendo, más y más personas lo van a necesitar, lo van a usar. Entonces va a haber un impacto en la sostenibilidad de estas plantas.Se va a poner en riesgo su continuidad, verdad? Cuando a mí me propusieron a [00:23:00] trabajar en esto y ayudar a la creación de este fondo, y me lo pusieron en esos términos, mi respuesta fue negativa. Yo dije no tengo el menor interés en trabajar en eso. Porque, o sea, en otras palabras, es ¿Cómo hacemos para garantizar la demanda?Cómo hacemos para para que tengamos suficiente, vamos a hacer plantaciones de peyote y plantaciones de ayahuasca para que no se acabe, para que alcance para todas las personas en el mundo que lo van a necesitar. Y yo dije no tengo el menor interés en hacer eso. Además, no creo que ese sea el real problema.Dije ahora si se tratase de la conservación de los conocimientos, estamos hablando de otra cosa. Eso es lo realmente precioso que debemos poner todo nuestros esfuerzos [00:24:00] para que exista una continuidad, para que no desaparezca como está desapareciendo, desaparece. Cada vez que se muere un abuelo y se han muerto muchos últimamente, sobre todo con el COVID, se han muerto muchos abuelos, pues se pierde, se pierde, o sea, es una tragedia para la humanidad entera, que se muera un abuelo que no tuvo la posibilidad de transmitirle a uno, a dos, a tres de sus hijos, a sus nietos, ese conocimiento, que no haya nadie que vaya a saber lo que sabe él, pues es una tragedia para todos nosotros.Entonces, cuando estamos pensando en cómo vamos a hacer? Se va a acabar la ayahuasca, o hay plantaciones, si no es lo mismo, es una inquietud válida, evidentemente, dentro nuestra lógica. Pero olvidamos que lo principal es la conservación de estos conocimientos. Entonces, tanto [00:25:00] MSC como ICEERS se está enfocando cada vez más en un trabajo profundo de desarrollar relaciones, cultivar relaciones con estos abuelos detentores de conocimientos, con estas comunidades que aún practican, mantiene sus sistemas, verdad? Y trabajando con ellos, digamos para ellos, para con programas, y con proyectos, y procesos que son diseñados por ellos, guiados por ellos, y nosotros solamente nos dedicamos a dar, un apoyo técnico y financiero, no? Para garantizar esto, entonces, al hacer esto, al dedicarlos más a la conservación de estos conocimientos, nos damos cuenta que la cultura no puede sobrevivir sin el [00:26:00] territorio.El conocimiento de los abuelos no tiene sentido sin un territorio, verdad? Y cuando hablamos de la conservación de la Amazonía, tampoco podemos entender la conservación de los ecosistemas sin la conservación de las culturas que han vivido ahí durante miles de años. O sea, todo va de la par, todo va de la mano, no?Entonces con una visión mucho más holistica, digamos más amplia. Pues entendemos eso, que cuidando de la cultura y poniendo todos los esfuerzos necesarios para la continuidad de esas culturas también estamos cuidando a la Amazonía, cuidando la biodiversidad, cuidando el agua, cuidando las medicinas, cuidando todo.Entiendes? Ya existen en Brasil enormes plantaciones de ayahuasca, de chacruna. Encuentras plantaciones en diferentes partes del mundo, [00:27:00] en Hawaii, y en Costa Rica, y en diferentes lugares. Ya la gente ha ido a sembrar hace años. Entonces, hay, no, eso no va a faltar. Lo que sí no vanos faltar, nos estamos quedando huérfanos de esos conocimientos.Y eso sí que es una gran pérdida porque yo tengo la certeza, la convicción que en esos, en esos conocimientos están las llaves, las respuestas que nos pueden ayudar a resolver los grandes desafíos que tiene la humanidad hoy en día. Desde nuestra ciencia no vamos a resolver, estamos, estamos en una crisis civilizatoria, estamos en una crisis global, y lo único que nos dicen los científicos es que tenemos que reducir las emisiones de gases de efecto invernadero.Y ahí van 20 años o más tratando de hacer eso, y no lo consiguen. No [00:28:00] solamente es insuficiente pensarlo de esa manera tan reduccionista, sino que, igualmente están acatandose a una sola cosa y no lo consiguen, no hemos logrado nada, no? Lo que realmente necesitamos es un cambio de sentido, un cambio entender una profundidad mucho mayor de cuál es nuestra relación como especie con este planeta.Y para eso necesitamos los entendimientos de lo más extraordinario que ha guardado la humanidad hasta hoy, no solamente de la civilización occidental, sino de todos, no? Entonces, cada vez que se pierde una lengua, cada vez que se muere un abuelo sabedor es una tragedia para toda la humanidad.Entonces, está muy bien que utilicemos estas medicinas, está muy bien que se esté expandiendo estas prácticas, pero esto sirve, [00:29:00] como un proceso inicial, como abrir una ventana hacia un mundo de posibilidades. Entonces, a mí me gusta que haya gente dando ayahuasca en Estados Unidos, en Europa.Me gusta porque mucha gente tiene la experiencia y dice "wow, en verdad si hay algo más. En verdad, aquí hay todo un mundo que yo no tenía idea que existía y que podría leer millones de cosas, y puedo creer o no creer, pero teniendo la experiencia, ya no necesito creer. Yo sé que hay algo. Sé que la naturaleza está viva. Sé que la naturaleza habla, sé que hay manera de comunicarse con la sutileza del funcionamiento de este planeta, de las aguas, de los ríos, de los vientos de las montañas. Todo es un sistema que está vivo, y hay manera de comunicarse con eso y mantenerse en una profunda relación, simbiótica, de profundo respeto y de amor con todo esto no? Entonces, es [00:30:00] importante que muchas personas tengan ese tipo de experiencia, pero después qué? Después de esa experiencia qué? Volvemos a nuestra vida normal, a nuestro trabajo de siempre, a la dificultad de nuestras relaciones cotidianas y el drama de la imposibilidad de mantener una conexión profunda con el tejido de la vida.Todo de nuestra civilización está hecho para mantenernos desconectados de la vida, del funcionamiento de la vida en este planeta, verdad? Entonces, hacia eso es lo que tenemos que apuntar, porque el problema no son las emisiones de gases de efecto invernadero, el problema es nuestra relación con el mundo.No es las historias que nos hacen creer que el mundo es una fuente de recursos para extraer, transformar y generar riqueza. Esa historia es profundamente [00:31:00] problemática. Y cuando conversamos con los sabios, con los abuelos, con los indígenas, escuchamos esas historias. Nos damos cuenta. Wow. Estas historias necesitan ser escuchadas.Estas historias necesitan, necesitan ser contadas en diferentes espacios. Y estos abuelos, estos sabios necesitan ocupar el lugar que les corresponde en la mesa de negociaciones de la humanidad. No se trata de conservar esto como algo folclórico, como un derecho de estos pobrecitos pueblos que tienen el derecho de vivir, como siempre vivieron, como quieran vivir. No, se trata de nuestra sobrevivencia.Entonces, hacia eso, creo yo, que debemos estar apuntando y sobre todo el tema de la revolución del renacimiento psicodélico yo creo que es una punta de lanza. Es una primera entrada en el que vamos poco a poco, demostrando que no se trata [00:32:00] solamente de convencer así retóricamente, sino que hay que demostrar, con hechos, la pertinencia, la utilidad de estos conocimientos para hoy para el mundo de hoy, verdad?Entonces, el tema de la salud y el tema de la salud mental es como es una problemática gigantesca, no? Enorme, hiper compleja. Es la primera cosa que, más y más científicos y gente que decide se está dando cuenta. "Uy, aquí esta gente sabe algo que nosotros no sabemos y tiene una manera de saber y entender el funcionamiento de la mente y el espíritu humano que nosotros no tenemos idea y que realmente funciona."Entonces eso es como una primera parte, como una punta de lanza. Estamos entrando en un lugar para poder demostrar al mundo. "Oye, lo que saben estos [00:33:00] pueblos es importante no solamente para ellos, no solamente para la continuidad de sus culturas, de sus tradiciones, no solamente para la salvaguarda de la selva Amazónica sino para toda la humanidad." Verdad? Y es muy triste ver en nuestros países, en Colombia. Bueno, Colombia hay otro nivel de entendimiento mucho más maduro, sobre lo indígena. Creo que están mucho más avanzados en ese sentido, pero en Brasil, en Perú, en Ecuador, en México, no le estamos dando la importancia que merece a esta problemática, o sea al rescate de lo poco que ha sobrevivido esos conocimientos extraordinarios que se mantienen en las selvas, en los desiertos, en las montañas, que se han ido guardando en secreto hasta hoy, o sea es heroico que haya [00:34:00] sobrevivido hasta hoy. Y hoy en día nos estamos dando cuenta de la pertinencia y la importancia de todo eso.Entonces, cuando hablamos de conservación, estamos hablando de conservación biocultural. Entender que no se puede preservar una cultura sin preservar la totalidad de su territorio, sin derechos de esos pueblos sobre sus territorios, y no se puede preservar los ecosistemas y los derechos si no se hace todos los esfuerzos para preservar esas culturas que han vivido en profundo respeto, en simbiosis con esos ecosistemas.Y tenemos muchísimo que aprender. Todo este tema de la cooperación internacional, de las ayudas de las ONGs, de los proyectos de los pueblos indígenas es de un paternalismo triste y absurdo que en el fondo dice "ay pobrecitos los indios vamos a ayudarlos", vamos a ayudarlos a qué? Vamos a ayudarlos a que sean más como nosotros.Eso es lo que estamos haciendo, creyendo que [00:35:00] somos lo mejor. Pero entonces más y más estamos entendiendo que es es mucho más lo que nosotros podemos aprender de ellos, que ellos transformarse en nosotros. Tenemos que re indigenizarnos, sabes?. Tenemos que volver a ciertas raíces que nos permitan una profunda conexión con la vida, con la naturaleza, con todos los seres que viven en nuestro territorio.Y eso es lo que en la misma naturaleza, la misma tierra nos está indicando, nos está llamando. O sea, si siguen así de desconectados, los vamos a exterminar. Tienen que re conectarse con eso, entonces ahí yo creo que hay una, algo nuevo que está surgiendo, que es maravilloso, verdad? Y espero yo que eso llegue a más y más personas.Estamos trabajando duro para eso la [00:36:00] verdad. Chris: Mm, pues muchísimas gracias por esos trabajos Claude. Y por tener la capacidad de afilar el cuchillo, en estos tiempos y en nuestra conversación, para sacar la grasa, digamos, como digamos. Yo siento que es, es un trabajo muy fuerte, no? O sea, para mí, eso es el fin de turismo, la capacidad de parar, de ver al mundo como algo que existe sólo por tus gustos. Algo que existe en un sentido temporal, es decir desechable. Pero eso va a durar como un montón de trabajo en el sentido de recordar, de recordar que en algún momento sus antepasados, los urbanos, los del norte, etcétera, fueron indígenas. Pero qué pasó? Qué ha pasado? Qué rompió [00:37:00] esa relación con la tierra? Y eso, eso es un trabajo muy, muy fuerte y obviamente generacional y intergeneracional, entonces. Pues hay mucho más que podemos hablar y ojalá que tenemos la oportunidad en algún momento, pero quería agradecerte por la parte de mí, por la parte del podcast y los escuchantes. Y al final quería preguntarte, y para nuestros oyentes, si hay una manera de seguir a tu trabajo o contactarte, si estás dispuesto a eso, cómo se pueden conocer lo de ICEERS y MSC? Claude: Bueno, tienes, el trabajo de MSC es muy importante. Y pues, si necesitamos a más gente que se sume, que done. Necesitamos canalizar muchos [00:38:00] recursos para poder hacer estas cosas bien, verdad? Con pocos recursos estamos haciendo cosas increíbles, pero ya estamos viendo que, ya llegamos a niveles en los que podemos administrar mucho mayores recursos. Entonces, si la gente se siente inspirada y pueden entrar a la página web de MSC o ICEERS, y MSC fund FND, ver lo que estamos haciendo, los diferentes proyectos que tenemos ahí y se sientan inspirados para donar o conseguir recursos, pues, genial. ICEERS también hace un trabajo extraordinario en la creación de conocimientos, artículos científicos y defensa legal también de estos detentores, de estas medicinas. Trabajo con incidencia política con gente que decide en el mundo. [00:39:00] Entonces estamos luchando ahí por los derechos de los pueblos indígenas, por el derecho del uso de estas medicinas que en muchos lugares son ilegales, y también sobre todo, decir a la gente que más que ir a la selva, o tomar ayahuasca cerca de sus lugares, muchas veces ahí cerca también tienen una reserva, algunos abuelos, pueblos indígenas que están cerca de ustedes, no? En sus países, cerca de sus ciudades. Y pues es tiempo de reconectar, y es muy difícil, pero la verdad que vale la pena, ir, ver lo que necesitan, cómo podemos ayudar, cómo podemos colaborar, simplemente con esa presencia, con otro tipo de encuentro, y cultivar esas relaciones de amistad, es algo, es algo muy importante que podemos hacer hoy en día, y que, [00:40:00] pues la tierra nos está pidiendo a gritos que nos re conectemos. Y ahí están los abuelos, todavía hay abuelos que, como dices tú, solamente esperan que vengan los jóvenes a preguntar no? Y muchas veces cuando no son los propios jóvenes de sus comunidades, pues están muy felices cuando viene gente de afuera de otros lugares, con esas preguntas, porque los ayaban a practicar, los ayudan a compartir, pero también inspiran a los jóvenes de su comunidad a sentarse con los abuelos.Creo que es un tiempo en el que es muy importante volver a sentarse con los abuelos, y los abuelos están ahí y están necesitando mucho de nosotros. Entonces, hagámoslo.Chris: Oye, gracias, hermano. Voy a asegurar que esos enlaces están en la página de El Fin del Turismo cuando lance el episodio. Y [00:41:00] pues, desde el norte hacia el sur te mando un gran abrazo. Y gracias por tu tiempo hoy, por tu trabajo y por tus compromisos Claude. Claude: Un placer, Chris, gracias a ti. Gracias por lo que estás haciendo. Saludos.English TranscriptionChris: [00:00:00] Welcome Claude, to the podcast The End of Tourism.Claude: Chris. Thank you very much.Chris: I was wondering if you could explain a little bit about where you are today and how the world appears to you?Claude: Good question. I am, right now I am in Rio de Janeiro, where I live. I am Peruvian and I also studied anthropology and I dedicate a lot of my time to indigenous peoples, especially in Brazil, Colombia and Peru and I have been working in the Amazon for many years. And as I see the world today, from here, well, with a lot of concern, obviously, but also because of what I do with some hope,Chris: Yeah, and in that matter of what you do and what we talked about before, it seems like it's a great path, a path of [00:01:00] decades and decades. And I would like, if we could see a little more of that path. Could you comment a little on how you got to this great moment, be it through your travels, to other countries, to other worlds, to other teachers.Claude: Yes, of course, let me explain. I've been working with indigenous people in general for about 20 years, but especially with the topic of spirituality, master plants like ayahuasca and those things, and I got there like, I think, like most people who go to the jungle today, or to look for these medicines, as they are called, which is a certain or deep dissatisfaction with our own culture, with the existential response that our own society [00:02:00] can give us, I would say.It's like there's always a question that one asks oneself, "Doesn't there have to be something more? It can't just be that." That proposal, let's say from the West, can't just be that, there has to be something more, right? So that led me on a search since, I don't know when I was around twenty, twenty-something years old.What led me to experiment with these medicines like ayahuasca, San Pedro, mushrooms, not for a playful or evasive reason, but on the contrary, with a curiosity for other ways of knowing and understanding. So I approached these medicines, with curiosity to understand how indigenous peoples know what they know. What is the origin of their [00:03:00] knowledge at the moment, right?So, I studied anthropology. I quickly moved away from academia because I found it much more interesting what my grandparents taught me, who for anthropology were my informants, right? It was like, I had to have my informant, this informant. And I realized that no, they were not my informants, but they were teachers and I learned much more from them than what I was taught in books, or in classes, or in seminars, right?So I decided to dedicate myself more to following them and to continue learning with them, and to see how I could help them. These grandparents, these wise indigenous people. And that led me to a wonderful path that today I call "the bridge people," right? In other words, people who are in that place of interface, between the knowledge, the wisdom that remains to us from the indigenous peoples [00:04:00] and the Western world, the modern world.And in this new type of encounter that has been emerging for a decade or maybe two decades. It is this new type of encounter of our worlds, right? That until today was, had always been extremely problematic, if not murderous, right? The way our Western world met the indigenous worlds was destructive. Today we find ourselves in a different way, in which many young people and adults and people from the global north come in search of knowledge, wisdom, cure, healing, alternatives, looking for answers that our own civilization cannot give us. There is a hunger, a thirst for meaning for something greater, so many people begin to go there with different eyes, with a [00:05:00] respect that I don't think had existed before. And that brings positive things and negative things, obviously.It seems that we are wrong. There is a great curse, that, like everything that the West touches, it eventually turns into a great disaster. It seems like something super nice, super wonderful, illusory, it makes us fall in love, it seduces us, but after a short time we begin to realize the terrible consequences that we bring, right?But something, I don't know, something is also changing, something is shifting. There is a certain maturity on both sides, both on the indigenous side and on the non-indigenous side, to meet from a place where we can celebrate our differences and understand that those differences are material for the construction of a new time , right?So that's the part that brings me a little bit of hope.Chris: Yeah, that's nice. Thank you, Claude. I mean, I feel [00:06:00] a lot of hope, but also despair for someone who has visited several indigenous peoples in the Amazon for about 15 years now, during which time these medicines were gradually reaching the collective mentality of the West.And it has helped me a lot, not only for spiritual reasons, but also for repairing the damage I did to my body, for example, but also getting into those circles, in the Amazon, for example, but also my native land Toronto, Canada and other parts Oaxaca, Mexico. We have seen little by little the neglect of indigenous wisdom, indigenous cultures, medicines, and more than anything, the contradictions that [00:07:00] appear within the "psychedelic renaissance." So, you have been in those for a long time, not only regarding medicine, but also in indigenous cultures in the Amazon. I would like to ask you what you have seen there in the sense of contradictions, about tourism regarding medicine, it can be the side of foreigners coming to heal themselves, or maybe the locals or indigenous people taking advantage of the moment.Claude: All cultures have contradictions. And the main contradiction is between what is said, right? What is professed and what one sees in practice, right? It's like going to church and listening to the pastor talking about what a good Christian should be like.And then you walk around, I don't know, Chicago or Mexico City, and you see what [00:08:00] Christians are like and you say, wow, there's a huge contradiction, right? The contradiction is terrible. When we talk about indigenous peoples and knowledge, indigenous peoples, indigenous wisdom, it seems like we're speaking from a place of idealization, right?And I would not like to fall into that idealization but rather try to be very concrete. One thing is reality, which is truly terrible. We live in a time that is the peak, it is the continuation of a process of colonialism, of extermination that was not something that happened with the arrival of the Spanish, and the Portuguese and the time of the conquest. And it was not something that happened.It's something that keeps happening, . It's something that [00:09:00] It keeps happening. As the great Aílton Krenak, a great indigenous leader from here in Brazil, and an intellectual , member of the Brazilian Academy of Letters, recently said, what you don't understand is that your world is still at war with our world.He said that . He says that, in other words, you don't understand that the Western world, the modern world, continues at war and making every effort to make indigenous cultures disappear.I mean, in practice, that's what we're doing. So, when I talk about hope, I'm talking about it because there's something that's emerging, that's new, but it's really very small. And as you say, when, I mean, the expansion of ayahuasca, of San Pedro, of peyote and of a certain [00:10:00] Respect and a certain understanding of the importance of indigenous knowledge , we still don't really understand that, we don't understand. And when we talk from the global north, and what is called the psychedelic renaissance, when they talk about indigenous peoples, there is an idealization, above all, it is only part of a discourse that is a bit " woke. "It's a bit of a way of making your speech pretty, but in practice it's not visible, no, no, it doesn't occupy an important place. The path that this psychedelic revolution is going to follow is already designed, it is to extract the active principles from plants, to make medicines, to make a pill that will help people stay in better shape within the madness that the West proposes.How we give to people [00:11:00] tools to adapt and to resist , that's the absurdity we're subjecting them to , that 's really it. I mean, we need drugs like Brave New World now , not Soma. Are you feeling depressed? Take your pills . You're questioning things too much , take this so you can keep functioning and operating and producing, right?But one thing is very, very clear to me, and that is that we have not yet managed to understand the magnitude of indigenous knowledge. And I say knowledge, not beliefs, because in general, when we talk about indigenous peoples, what a shaman, as they call him, a healer, knows, or what they talk about regarding their spirituality, people think, "ah, those are their beliefs." And in the best of cases, they say, "oh, how nice, we have to respect it, we have to take care of their rights, and they have cultural rights and they have every right to believe in what they believe." But when we say beliefs, it is also a misunderstanding because it has very little of belief in reality.When one studies more, and when one goes deeper into what a healer, an ayahuasca, Shipibo, Ashaninka, Huni Kuin, Karipuna, Noke Koi Kofan, knows how to do, what they know, it has nothing to do with beliefs. It has nothing to do with the religious worship of certain deities. Nothing to do with it. We are talking about deeply practical knowledge, right?It is an accumulation of knowledge over generations and generations by scholars of the jungle, who organize this [00:13:00] knowledge. Socially and also transmitted with a method. There is a very strict, very specific method of transmitting this knowledge and these ways of knowing, so I just gave you a definition not of a religion. I just gave you a definition of science.So what we haven't really understood until now is that the little bit of that knowledge that has survived to this day is much more like a science than a religion. It's much more practical knowledge than a religious belief, right? And in that sense, it's of the utmost importance. And so, when we have more and more people having this experience, what happens?Many people come to the jungle in Iquitos, I have worked for many years, for years I have been like the main center where I have received many people to [00:14:00] take ayahuasca and those things, and people come to heal themselves of things that in their countries, well, no, no one can heal them of depression, trauma, physical things too, but above all psychological things, right?And then they come back and say, "Oh, I took ayahuasca and I was cured." "How did you get cured?" "Oh, I went, I took ayahuasca," but nobody says, "I was drinking with an old man who sang to me every night for half an hour. And then he would come in the morning and ask me what my dreams were like. And then he would come with other medicines and he would give me baths. And when he would give me baths, he would sing to me again. And then he would give me this, and he would give me this medicine and sing to me, and when he would sing to me, he would make me see this kind of... Nobody talks about it. People say, "I took ayahuasca and the ayahuasca cured me," but the old man who was singing just seems like an accessory to an old man singing.But that is not the case.Claude: [00:00:00] Most people say, "Wow, how did you heal from that? What happened? What did you do?"Ah, I already took ayahuasca. Ayahuasca cured me."True? I've actually heard very few people say, "Grandpa, Grandma gave me ayahuasca, but he sang to me for hours, gave me baths, asked me about my dreams, adapted all the plants and the treatment he was doing to my dreams, to what he was seeing. When he sang to me, he guided me to see things, or not see things."It seems as if the old man who sang was an accessory, a decoration. And no, really, we don't give credit to the deep work they do, and the knowledge they put into practice. And it's not strange because it's very difficult to understand how a person singing is going to heal me with a song, right?No, for us, it's very difficult, it doesn't make sense. [00:01:00] It has to be the substance that you took that got into your brain and made some neurological connections. I don't know. It can't be that thing, because for us, it would be magical thinking, right?But as I say, what we call magical thinking is not magical thinking for them. It is a very concrete knowledge that is learned and has learning methods. It is knowledge and skills and abilities that are acquired through transmission methods, right? And up to now we have not really managed to give it the place it deserves.On the contrary, we are impacting this in very profound ways, and there is a fundamental contradiction that I see in this, in going back to the question you asked me. In all this tourism that has arrived, and [00:02:00] this fascination, this interest. What are the impacts that this has had on indigenous communities in the indigenous world, right?So I think there are two things that seem to be a bit contradictory. On the one hand, there is a great blessing. Twenty years ago, you didn't see people our age, young people interested in sitting with their grandparents and really learning, and continuing those traditions and cultivating that kind of knowledge.Most people our age, a little older, up to our age, people who are 50, 55, 60 years old today, didn't want to do anything, no. They wanted to be bilingual intercultural teachers, they wanted to be [00:03:00] professionals, to belong to the white world, right? So, the old people were from a bygone era that was destined to become extinct.So, with the arrival of the Westerners and with this interest in these things, there has been a certain renaissance and above all, a real interest among the youth to learn these things as a professional alternative, let's say. Let's say, hey, why should I be a lawyer? If I, if you look at all the gringos that are coming, I can be this and I'll do better, right?So, on the one hand, there is this part that, today we see, for example, in the Shipibo, a lot of people who are learning, right? Many young people are interested, not only in the Shipibo, but in many places in Brazil, in Colombia, in Ecuador, I see, I see that, a youth that is little by little becoming more interested and [00:04:00] returning to their own roots.It's like, how to say, since you're a kid, they always tell you, "The ancients were crap, that world is over, the only thing that matters is modernity and integrating into urban life, into the official life of this civilization, going to church, having a career, and being someone in life," right?And then it was like, and the states with policies of that nature, the governments, the states of our countries, it was, well, the indigenous question was how do we civilize the Indians. Civilizing the Indian is nothing other than making them forget their systems, their cultures, but as a part of how I say, " woke, " not like," Oh, how nice the Indians are that they keep their dances, that they keep their folklore, that they keep [00:05:00] their clothes and that they keep certain things that are kind of nice, that they keep as something picturesque and somewhat folkloric, " but without really understanding the depth.But today, I think that to a large extent, thanks to this, not only is it a more complex thing, obviously, but, the youth, seeing that there is this arrival of whites , of foreigners, of gringos, right? Very interested in the knowledge of their grandparents, in medicine. And they go and are there, they say " oh, there must be something interesting here, I also want to learn. " If gringos like this, it's because there must be something good, you know? We got to that point where it was meant to disappear, but one way or another, there's a rebirth, right? At the same time, [00:06:00] In the transmission of this knowledge, as I was saying, it is extremely complex, extremely strict, strict methods of transmission, so it has had to be simplified because young people are no longer capable, having gone to school, having one foot in the city. No, they are not as capable, nor do they have the interest, nor the conditions, nor the aptitudes to really enter into these processes as the grandparents could have done, who today are 70, 80 years old, right , who were really the last . Unless you go very far into the jungle where there are places where there is not much contact, they still have to maintain some things, but they are also far from these circuits,But then, yes, there is a great simplification of these systems. So many things are lost. For better or worse, right? Many people say, well, at least this whole part of witchcraft and [00:07:00] shamanic attacks and all that stuff is being lost, but to which a lot, a lot of importance is given that we also fail to understand, because we see it with that Judeo-Christian vision, that Manichean distinction of good and evil, which in the indigenous worlds does not just not exist, but is totally different, right? And that is part of those differences that are important to understand and respect, right? So, all this part that we see as witchcraft, as diabolical and such, has its function within a system, and that no, trying to make it disappear is to make the system itself disappear, right?Because we don't understand it. It's the same thing that happens, it's what has always happened, something that scandalizes us, so we want to change it, but it scandalizes us from our own worldview and we are not understanding it from the vision of [00:08:00] They do not. It does not mean that everything can be put into perspective, right? There are things that are very difficult, no, and very delicate, but in general, when there is something that scandalizes us, we want to change it, without really going into an understanding of the function of those things, because we are following the same patterns as the priests who arrived 400, 500 years ago. They said, "Oh, this is diabolical. We have to eradicate these things, right?" So we continue doing that. So, on the one hand, we see that there is a rebirth of interest among the youth and a reconnection with their own identity, while at the same time there is a somewhat dangerous simplification of these systems, meaning that the young people who will soon be grandparents do not know half of what their grandparents knew. They know the bare minimum that is needed to give the gringo what he requires, what he needs, what he is looking for, enough to actually do business, and that is not to blame them, but it is part of the system in which we are navigating, because everything works like that.Why are you going to go so deep if this minimum is enough? Especially when we see that many gringos, many foreigners, take ayahuasca a few times or go on a diet, and then they take ayahuasca back to their countries, put on the feathers, grab their little guitar, and start singing these things as decoration around this experience and make a lot of money.And so ayahuasca has been expanding throughout the world, right? And that serves its purpose too. Not to judge, but [00:10:00] there is also, it is a superficiality, many times, hurtful, when you see what a grandfather knows and what he has had to go through, the difficulties, the tests and the responsibilities that an

Hey everybody! Episode 157 of the show is out. In this episode, I spoke with my friends Todd and Lacey. Todd and Lacey and I go quite far back where we met working together at the ayahuasca center the Temple of the Way of Light. They have started their own ayahuasca retreat called Intertwining Medicines where they work within the Shipibo lineage. It was a pleasure to sit down and catch up with them both. They have been involved in this medicine path for a long time and both hold a lot of wisdom and teachings. We spoke about their background, facilitation, healing, black magic and brujeria, and the evolution of this work. I have a lot of respect for both of them and think they have a lot to share. As always, to support this podcast, check out my Patreon page below. Enjoy!To learn more about or contact Todd & Lacey, visit their website at: https://www.intertwiningmedicines.comThis episode is sponsored by Real Mushrooms. As listeners, visit their website to enjoy a discount of 25% off your first order: https://www.realmushrooms.com/universeTo learn more about our work, visit our website:https://NicotianaRustica.orgTo view the recent documentary, Sacred Tobacco, about my work, visit: https://youtu.be/KB0JEQALI_wIf you enjoy the show, it would be a big help if you could share it with your own audiences via social media or word of mouth. And please Subscribe or Follow and if you can go on Apple Podcasts and leave a starred-rating and a short review. That would be super helpful with the algorithms and getting this show out to more people. Thank you in advance!I will be guiding our next plant medicine dietas with my colleague Merav Artzi (who I interviewed in episode 28) in April/May in Porto Covo, Portugal, and July in Westport, Ireland. If you would like more information about joining us and the work I do, visit my site at: https://NicotianaRustica.orgIntegration/Consultation call: https://jasongrechanik.setmore.comPatreon: https://patreon.com/UniverseWithinYouTube join & perks: https://bit.ly/YTPerksPayPal, donate: https://paypal.me/jasongrechanikWebsite: https://UniverseWithinPodcast.comInstagram: https://instagram.com/UniverseWithinPodcastFacebook: https://facebook.com/UniverseWithinPodcastMusic: Nuno Moreno: https://m.soundcloud.com/groove_a_zen_sound & https://nahira-ziwa.bandcamp.com & Stefan Kasapovski's Santero Project: https://spoti.fi/3y5Rd4H

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Dr. Simon Ruffell, a psychiatrist, ayahuasca researcher, and student of curanderismo. Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-300/?ref=278 Simon shares his transformative journey from being a skeptical Western psychiatrist to embracing the spiritual dimensions of plant medicine after experiencing what he describes as an "ontological shock" during an ayahuasca ceremony. He discusses his ongoing apprenticeship with Shipibo curanderos in the Amazon, his research into ayahuasca's effects on mental health and epigenetics, and his work bridging indigenous wisdom with Western scientific understanding. Dr. Ruffell explores the differences between Western medical approaches and traditional healing practices, highlighting how the Shipibo focus on harmony and balance rather than fixing specific problems. Through his organization Onaya, he conducts reciprocal research with indigenous communities, studying how ayahuasca affects veterans with PTSD and examining the epigenetic changes that may explain its profound healing effects. Dr. Simon Ruffell is trained across three modalities: Western medicine (as a medical doctor specializing in psychiatry), research psychology (with a PhD in Amazonian ayahuasca and mental health), and traditional plant medicine (as a student of curanderismo). He is the Chief Medical Officer of MINDS, a nonprofit research organization exploring the potential of psychedelics and consciousness practices to address humanity's greatest challenges. Since 2015, his work has focused primarily on exploring ayahuasca while collaborating with indigenous communities in the Amazon basin. He is the CEO of Onaya and founded the nonprofit Onaya Science, which researches the effects of ayahuasca in naturalistic Amazonian settings. Dr. Ruffell's work seeks to understand plant medicines from both Indigenous and Western perspectives, and he is currently training in Shipibo Shamanism under Don Rono Lopez. Highlights: A spiritual attack during ceremony that shifted his perspective on reality Bridging indigenous wisdom with Western scientific research The difference between psychedelic guides and trained shamans Ayahuasca and epigenetics: clearing ancestral trauma How traditional medicine evolves and adapts over time Remarkable PTSD treatment outcomes with veterans Approaching healing as returning to harmony EEG research during ceremonial Icaros singing Shamans as navigational experts of the psychedelic realm When to choose Western medicine vs. traditional approaches Episode Links: Dr. Simon Ruffell's Website Onaya Onaya Science Episode Sponsor Psychedelic Coacing Isntitute's Intensive for Psychedelic Professionals in Costa Rica - a transformative retreat for personal and professional growth.

► JETZT SPENDEN für die Flutschäden der Shipibo-Gemeinschaft am Ucayali-Fluss: https://www.goodcrowd.org/shipibo-help-with-love ► Hier findest du Interview Part 1: https://go.veitlindau.com/Shipibo-Interview-Part-1 ► Hier findest du Interview Part 2: https://go.veitlindau.com/Shipibo-Interview-Part-2 ► Willkommen zu einer besonders heiligen und tief berührenden Folge des HUMAN FUTURE MOVEMENT Podcasts. In dieser Episode nehme ich dich mit auf eine Reise – hinein in den Dschungel von Costa Rica und zugleich tief in die Mysterien unserer menschlichen Existenz. Es geht um eine der ältesten Heiltraditionen unseres Planeten: die Arbeit mit der Lehrerpflanze Ayahuasca und die heilige Kultur der Shipibo. ► Seit Jahren begleiten mich die Erkenntnisse und Erfahrungen dieser Pflanzenmedizin. Doch erst jetzt – nach tiefer Reifung und intensiver Reflexion – fühle ich mich bereit, offen mit dir darüber zu sprechen. Diese Episode ist ein Erfahrungsbericht, ein Plädoyer für Achtsamkeit und ein Weckruf für echte spirituelle Tiefe. ► Ich teile mit dir: - Warum psychedelische Pflanzen nicht einfach "Drogen", sondern kraftvolle Lehrer sein können - Was Ayahuasca wirklich ist – und was sie nicht ist - Die heilsame Kraft der Shipibo-Tradition, insbesondere der Icaros – heilende Lieder, empfangen direkt aus dem Geist der Pflanzen - Warum Respekt, Vorbereitung und das richtige Setting essenziell sind - Und warum nicht jeder diesen Weg gehen sollte – aber jede*r etwas über die Weisheit dieser Kulturen lernen kann ► Diese Episode ist auch eine Hommage an zwei außergewöhnliche Menschen: Maestra Silvia und Maestro Nui – Heiler:innen der Shipibo-Tradition, mit denen wir vor Ort arbeiten durften. Ihre Interviews findest du ergänzend zu dieser Folge. Ihre Weisheit ist ein Geschenk an die Welt.

Pour ce 856eme épisode nous accueillons trois invités autour d'un projet à la croisée de l'art numérique, de l'anthropologie et de l'impact social. Grégoire de Laage, fondateur de la plateforme Supergood, l'artiste d'art génératif Beervangeer et l'anthropologue Jérémy Narby, spécialiste des peuples indigènes d'Amazonie.1. Contexte du projet : Art & impact socialSupergood, fondé par Grégoire de Laage, est une plateforme Web3 à but non lucratif qui soutient des projets humanitaires via la vente d'œuvres numériques.Pour son premier projet, Supergood s'associe à l'ONG Nouvelle Planète pour soutenir des jardins de plantes médicinales portés par des femmes Shipibo au Pérou. 2. L'artiste : Beervangeer et le projet "Maze Flipper"Beervangeer, artiste génératif actif sur Art Blocks, a conçu une œuvre inspirée des motifs "Kene" traditionnels Shipibo.La collection s'intitule "Maze Flipper", et évoque les chemins de la vie, de la conscience, et les structures invisibles qui relient le vivant.Il s'agit de 96 œuvres NFT qui seront disponibles à 0,03 ETH sur Artblocks.io 3. L'anthropologue : Jeremy Narby et la transmission des savoirs ShipiboJeremy Narby travaille avec les peuples indigènes de l'Amazonie depuis plus de 30 ans.Il accompagne des projets de protection des savoirs, de santé communautaire, et de revalorisation culturelle.Il explique l'importance des Kene comme système de communication visuelle et vibratoire, au cœur de la culture Shipibo.4. NFT physiques : quand la broderie dialogue avec le codeChaque œuvre digitale peut être reproduite en broderie par les femmes Shipibo.6 œuvres sont proposées directement sous forme d'art textile au prix de 1800 dollars, avec plusieurs semaines de travail par pièce.Une partie des revenus servira à soutenir la mise en place de jardins médicinaux dans les villages Shipibo.5. Une collaboration interculturelle profondeLe projet dépasse l'initiative artistique : il crée un échange égalitaire où chacun (artiste, artisan, ONG) apporte sa voix et sa vision.C'est aussi une démarche de reconnaissance pour une culture trop longtemps ignorée ou exotisée.Une démarche humble, mais ambitieuse, qui pourrait inspirer d'autres collaborations de ce type.Liens utiles pour les auditeurs:*

Join us for an inspiring conversation with Henna Maria, a medicine woman, activist, speaker, poet, and teacher of Natural Law. Henna has dedicated her life to bridging spirituality and activism, working to create parallel societies rooted in self-sovereignty, human rights, and natural living. Initiated into the art of healing song by indigenous Shipibo masters, Henna specializes in the ceremonial practice of Ayahuasca and, alongside her husband Richard, runs Wistin Origins, a healing sanctuary in the Peruvian Amazon. In 2019, she founded Dawn of Peace, a creative community and peace organization advocating for medical freedom, human and animal rights, and self-governance. She has also co-founded major initiatives, including: Police for Freedom (2021) – Rehumanizing society and fostering collaboration between activists and law enforcement. Save Our Food (2022) – Addressing food scarcity, environmental crises, and agricultural collapse. Kotiinpaluu (2023) – Reviving and protecting indigenous Finnish culture while laying the foundation for a parallel, natural society. We'll explore Henna's journey, the power of spiritual activism, and the practical steps for building parallel societies.  

Why war-prone Western leaders need Ayahuasca, how Aya PTSD treatment enables Western soldiers to make healthier life choices and much more... We travel from sanitised Yale to jungle purges with Max C Wood (IG) today, who's working on psychological and biological markers for the therapeutic potential of Ayahuasca in traditional (Shipibo) settings with research organisation, Onaya. Based in the heart of the Allpahuayo-Mishana National Reserve near Iquitos in Peru, the Ayahuasca Foundation's Riosbo Research Center is Onaya Science's main research hub. The team works alongside the Indigenous healers to design and conduct studies into ceremonial ayahuasca, involving them at every stage of the research. Check out the valuable work Onaya are doing here at their website and follow them on Instagram Onaya (IG) You can connect with Max on LinkedIn here.Connect with Thor on LinkedIn here and check out his 5 star coaching client feedback on TrustPilot here

Hi from the Amazon jungle. Honestly, if I'd known that AI would do such a good job of describing this podcast, I would have left it in charge and stayed longer. Although I will say, I asked it to write it in the style of the speaker, and it made me sound way more polite than I usually am to you scrubs. Enjoy! (PS - you will find the same show in your podcatcher, as normal.) In the heart of the Amazon, under a tin roof pummeled by tropical rain, I offer you a cosmic upgrade to Nietzsche's Amor Fati. While the German philosopher tells us to love our fate unconditionally, I'm proposing something more alchemical: co-creation with disappointment. It's not about passively accepting what happens, nor gaslighting yourself into loving the unlovable. Rather, it's asking "what choices do I have in the direction of beauty given the limitations before me in this moment?" Drawing from my own messy Paraguayan adventures during a Mars direct station in Cancer (sit down Scorpio risings, this one was truly mine to bear), I explore how this principle transforms practical enchantment beyond simple success/fail metrics into continuous creation. Whether you're dealing with planetary transits or broken water towers in indigenous villages, this approach connects the Dine concept of the Beauty Way with our magical capacity to participate in the unfolding of reality. Roll your suitcase through cosmic mud with me on this one. 00:02 - Introduction and recording conditions in the Amazon 00:48 - Explaining the concept of "Amor Fati" and Nietzsche's philosophy 02:23 - Comparing Nietzsche's idea with Stoicism's similar concept 04:37 - Why Gordon believes he's "more right" than both Nietzsche and the Stoics 06:49 - Co-creation with disappointment as an upgrade to "love your fate" 09:14 - Mars direct station and Cass Tyndall's insight on struggle 11:40 - How metaphysical laws relate to physical and psychological laws 14:06 - The moment-by-moment decision of co-creation and manifestation 16:05 - Lessons from Shipibo culture and challenging gaslight responses 18:21 - Finding beauty within disappointment and discomfort 20:47 - Moving beyond success/fail metrics in practical enchantment 21:58 - Continuous co-creation as a definition of magic

The new series of Dior Talks – hosted by Paris-based journalist Katya Foreman – is dedicated to the eagerly anticipated ninth edition of Dior Lady Art. Eleven global artists have been invited to transform the iconic Lady Dior handbag into a unique piece of art.In the latest episode, Peruvian artist Sara Flores approaches the Lady Dior as a global canvas to promote Kené, the ancient visual language of the Shipibo-Conibo people, indigenous to the Ucayali River in the Peruvian Amazon. Traditionally applied as body painting and on ceramic and textiles intended for clothing, using local plant-based pigments such as turmeric and annatto, the painstaking artistic practice of Kené is passed down by mothers to daughters. Flores' intricate geometric paintings of labyrinths, images that come to her in visions triggered by psychoactive plants grown in the jungle, reflect the complex interconnected web of life found within the Amazonian rainforest. For Dior Lady Art, Flores celebrates the traditions of her people with two unique handbags directly inspired by her Kené designs, crafted from vegan pineapple leather and tocuyo cotton hand-painted with vegetal dyes. The first, a medium-sized model, features a handle adorned with a cosmic serpent, its surface sparkling with a constellation of black beads, while the second, a mini bag, is embellished with a maze of shimmering silver gems. Also embroidered with a serpentine motif, the bags convey the concept of spiritual healing through the intentional paths traced by the strokes. These remarkable pieces do more than just captivate the eye, they engage the senses, shedding light on the enduring legacy of ancient cultural traditions as they carry a message of respect for the natural world.  Download the episode to learn more about Sara Flores' universe and the Dior Lady Art experience.Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Our kinship with the natural world can offer a balm for the troubled modern soul, and counsellor, somatic therapist and folk herbalist Rachel Weitz works directly with strengthening this sense of relationships with plants, earth and spirit. After quite an amazing journey of apprenticeships and study that span a counselling degree, a 4-year stint in the Peruvian amazon with the Shipibo peoples, and a 6-year apprenticeship with shamanic healer and herbalist Ann Drucker she has created a healing modality she calls “animistic healing arts” that weaves all these threads together. She works with her clients and to restore the lost sense of kinship with the greater intelligence that is within and round us - the plants, the ancestors, nature herself and guides. Her aim is the support folks in facilitating their own direct healing process in connection with these guides and more-than-human relationships.  In this episode, Stephanie and Rachel explore how plants can be powerful allies in our healing journeys beyond the physical, the spirit properties of hawthorn for opening us to grief, what an old world apprenticeship really looks like, and the wonder of being in the circle of care of the plant world.  SHOW NOTES https://www.instagram.com/rachelweitzhealingarts/ contactrachelweitz@gmail.com https://www.rachelweitz.com/ *BUY ME A CUPPA* If you liked the episode and want more, a cuppa fuels my work and time, which is given for free. Leave a comment and a few bucks here: ⁠buymeacoffee.com/theeldertree⁠ To find out more about The Elder Tree visit the website at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.theeldertree.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or follow is on socials here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  The intro and outro song is "⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sing for the Earth⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠" and was kindly donated by Chad Wilkins.  You can find Chad's music ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Bjorn's journey began in the fast-paced world of high-performing sales, where outward success masked a profound sense of unfulfillment. Battling chronic prehypertension, arthritis, and lingering pain from a past injury, he felt increasingly disconnected from his true self. This internal struggle ignited a quest for authenticity and healing. A pivotal moment came in 2010 when Bjorn explored the teachings of Bob Proctor, leading to an emotional release that marked the beginning of his awakening. This experience inspired him to seek deeper fulfillment and genuine expression. His journey took a significant turn in 2021 during the Light Portal in Tulum, where he began a series of encounters ancient wisdom and discovered the power of sound through transformative experiences with plant medicine and biofield tuning. Through his explorations, including work with shamans from the Huni Kuin, Yawanawa, and Shipibo tribes, Bjorn deepened his understanding of healing and authenticity. These encounters highlighted the importance of connection in the healing process, ultimately guiding him to create Blue Dragon Healing. His flagship program, Primal PATH, offers individuals a structured journey through Pain, Awakening, Transformation, and Heritage. By sharing his personal story and the insights gained from his experiences, Bjorn provides audiences with practical tools for emotional and spiritual growth. He emphasizes that true transformation comes from embracing one's authentic self and connecting with others.  https://www.bluedragonhealing.net Get 45% off the Magic Mind bundle with my link: https://www.magicmind.com/thevoicewithinJAN #magicmind #mentalwealth #mentalperformance

Hey everybody! Episode 148 of the show is out. In this episode, I spoke with Remi & Ashley of Kumankaya Healing Center. I had heard about Remi a number of years ago as I am friends with and have interviewed two of his friends and colleagues, Joe Tafur (ep15) and Martina Drassl (ep42). They spoke very highly of Remi and his dedication and skill to the plant medicine path. He was a Christian monk for a number of years before apprenticing with a renowned Shipibo Onaya (ayahuasquero) Ricardo Amaringo, at the healing center Nihue Rao. That is where he met Ashley, his wife, who has had an interesting journey herself coming to plants and also apprenticed there. It was a pleasure to sit down with both of them and learn about their background, speak about plants, ayahuasca, the Shipibo lineage, dietas, master plants, cosmovisions, and what they have learned on their path. Their depth of knowledge, training, and wisdom in this field is very apparent and I trust you all will gain much from their extensive knowledge. As always, to support this podcast, get early access to shows, bonus material, and Q&As, check out my Patreon page below. Enjoy!This episode is sponsored by Real Mushrooms. As listeners, visit their website to enjoy a discount of 25% off your first order: https://www.realmushrooms.com/universe“Remi Delaune and Ashley are co-founders of the alternative healing center Kumankaya in Mexico. Remi is a Western healer who spent over 20 years in an Greek Orthodox monastery before becoming a sacred medicine practitioner. Like Remi, Ashley acquired her plant medicine training in the jungles of Peru undergoing years of severe aestheticism to learn how to help people with the knowledge of master plant diets and Ayahuasca. Together, Remi and Ashley have over 20 years of experience and more than 10 years of master plant diets.”To learn more about or contact Remi & Ashley, visit their website at: https://www.kumankaya.comTo view the recent documentary, Sacred Tobacco, about my work, visit: https://youtu.be/KB0JEQALI_wIf you enjoy the show, it's a big help if you can share it via social media or word of mouth. And please Subscribe or Follow and if you can go on Apple Podcasts and leave a starred-rating and a short review. This is super helpful with the algorithms and getting this show out to more people. Thank you in advance!For more information about me and my upcoming plant medicine retreats with my colleague Merav Artzi, visit my site at: https://NicotianaRustica.orgIntegration/Consultation call: https://jasongrechanik.setmore.comPatreon: https://patreon.com/UniverseWithinYouTube join & perks: https://bit.ly/YTPerksPayPal, donate: https://paypal.me/jasongrechanikWebsite: https://UniverseWithinPodcast.comInstagram: https://instagram.com/UniverseWithinPodcastFacebook: https://facebook.com/UniverseWithinPodcastMusic: Nuno Moreno: https://m.soundcloud.com/groove_a_zen_sound & https://nahira-ziwa.bandcamp.com & Stefan Kasapovski's Santero Project: https://spoti.fi/3y5Rd4H

**Note: this interview is in Shipibo and Spanish. For a version with English subtitles, please view the versions on YouTube (hit 'CC' button), Spotify video, or Rumble****Para ver las notas del programa en español, visita: UniverseWithinPodcast.com/podcast/pervis-urquia**In episode 147 of the show, I spoke with Pervis Urquia. Pervis was recommended to me by my good friend Claire Bouleau who has been working with him for the last years. It was a pleasure to sit down with Pervis and his translator, Linberg, to speak about his life, his work, ayahuasca, dietas, prayers, God, and Shipibo culture. Pervis has a really beautiful and strong presence and I trust you will gain much from this interview. Thank you Beth Adele for the subtitles. As always, to support this podcast, get early access to shows, bonus material, and Q&As, check out my Patreon page below. Enjoy!“Pervis Urquia is the seventh child of a large family from the Shipibo community of El Porvenir. His Shipibo name is Niwe, which means Pure Wind. From an early age, he witnessed the healing skills of his uncle Esteban, who used medicinal plants and chanted healing icaros to heal illnesses. In 1990, Pervis was confronted with an unknown disease, and despite seeking a cure in the city with pharmaceutical drugs, he found no improvement. But his luck changed when he met his uncle Cecilio Flores, who provided treatment using traditional medicine and the power of plants, with strict diets after eating plant leaves. He regained his energy and received praise from his uncle, who encouraged him to continue developing his potential and wisdom in the use of plants to cure diseases. His faith was strong practicing the power of prayers. He continues his mission of receiving patients and offering his valuable treatments based on ancestral knowledge of medicinal plants and their connection to the supernatural.”To learn more about or contact Pervis, visit his website at: https://www.mokaparinete.orgTo view the recent documentary, Sacred Tobacco, about my work, visit: https://youtu.be/KB0JEQALI_wIf you enjoy the show, it's a big help if you can share it via social media or word of mouth. And please Subscribe or Follow and if you can go on Apple Podcasts and leave a starred-rating and a short review. This is super helpful with the algorithms and getting this show out to more people. Thank you in advance!For more information about me and my upcoming plant medicine retreats with my colleague Merav Artzi, visit my site at: https://NicotianaRustica.orgIntegration/Consultation call: https://jasongrechanik.setmore.comPatreon: https://patreon.com/UniverseWithinYouTube join & perks: https://bit.ly/YTPerksPayPal, donate: https://paypal.me/jasongrechanikWebsite: https://UniverseWithinPodcast.comInstagram: https://instagram.com/UniverseWithinPodcastFacebook: https://facebook.com/UniverseWithinPodcastMusic: Nuno Moreno: https://m.soundcloud.com/groove_a_zen_sound & https://nahira-ziwa.bandcamp.com & Stefan Kasapovski's Santero Project: https://spoti.fi/3y5Rd4H

Welcome to the Deeper you go the Weirder it gets. I am your host Garett Renon. This episode is funny because I set out to talk about aliens, which I did, but as I started to get into it I quickly realized that I first needed to go down a rabbit hole about the reality of space. Because the truth is, if aliens exist, what they are, where they are from, and how they got here largely depend on what type of universe we actually live in. For example, is the universe infinite or finite? And what role does Earth play? Is it an important part of some large cosmological cycle? Is it a realm? Or is it just a random rock, floating in space that just so happens to be the perfect size and in the perfect location to harbor intelligent life? Also why is our modern view of space so different from that of our ancestors? If you enjoy the show you can buy me a cup of coffee (send a tip): VenmoField Guide 9 - WebsiteGet Pine Pollen and a NEW HAT - Online StoreSignup for newsletter: Send email to: ayahumero@proton.me with subject line "I Want In"Podcast gear available at: https://deeper-you-go-the-weirder-it.myspreadshop.com/Feel free to reach out with questions: ayahumero@proton.meDeeper you go Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deeper_weirder/Book: The Self-Sabotage Guide: 9 Behaviors Preventing You from Becoming Stronger, Faster, And SexierThank you all for supporting the show!

With a master in depth psychology, Simon Yugler is an internationally experienced psychedelic therapist, educator, and the author of the book, Psychedelics & the Soul: A Mythic Guide to Psychedelic Healing, Depth Psychology, and Cultural Repair. He has taught for five psychedelic facilitator training programs including Naropa University and Inner Trek. Simon draws on his diverse experience learning from Indigenous cultures, including the Shipibo ayahuasca tradition and the Native American Church. For a year-and-a-half, he routinely served as a retreat leader with MycoMeditations, a leading psilocybin therapy retreat center in Jamaica. Prior to becoming a therapist, he served as an experiential educator and guide, leading immersive study-abroad journeys for young adults across 10 countries. Based on the land now called Portland, Oregon, Simon is passionate about helping his clients navigate the liminal wilds of the soul.Episode Highlights▶ The “psychedelic residency” Simon experienced in Jamaica and how he made psychedelics his career▶ What differentiates depth psychology from other fields of psychology and how it makes room for psychedelics ▶ Simon's book and how it can be used by people who are on a healing journey or looking to explore the human consciousness ▶ The concept of cultural repair and how psychedelics are uniquely poised to address these issues▶ The role of psychedelics in our society now and where they are headed in the future ▶ A dive into what is true and what isn't while experiencing plant medicine and how to truly understand what is unfolding▶ How Simon helps people learn from psychedelic medicine through retreats ▶ The deep work and experience it takes to become a psychedelic therapist or facilitator and the danger of people trying to do it too soon ▶ What to do if you want to get involved in the psychedelic industry but don't have a lot of experience with it▶ The archetype of the trickster and how psychedelics are most closely aligned with itSimon Yuglers Links & Resources▶ Website: https://simonyugler.com/▶ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/depth_medicine/▶ Substack: https://simonyugler.substack.com/ Download Beth's free trainings here: Clarity to Clients: Start & Grow a Transformational Coaching, Healing, Spiritual, or Psychedelic Business: https://bethaweinstein.com/grow-your-spiritual-businessIntegrating Psychedelics & Sacred Medicines Into a Transformational Business: https://bethaweinstein.com/psychedelics-in-business▶ The True Path Entrepreneur Group Business Mastermind Program: https://bethaweinstein.com/mastermind▶ Beth's Other Programs & Courses: https://bethaweinstein.com/services▶ Beth Weinstein's Instagram: http://instagram.com/bethaweinstein▶ Beth on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bethw.nychttps://www.facebook.com/BethWeinsteinbiz▶ Join Beth's FREE Psychedelics & Purpose Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/PsychedelicsandSacredMedicines

As the psychedelic renaissance continues to spread throughout the West, we learn more about these substances and experiences every day. But are we losing the important ancestral teachings and Indigenous knowledge that got us here? In this episode, Kyle interviews Alonso Del Río: author, musician, filmmaker, founder of the Center for Healing and Consciousness Studies (Ayahuasca Ayllu), and facilitator with 45 years of experience largely under the framework of the Shipibo tradition. Together with translator, Francisco Rivarola, they have developed a course called “Ancestral Teachings for the Psychedelic Renaissance,” which aims to be both an honoring of knowledge that has safeguarded these traditions, and a bridge between that wisdom and our Western frameworks, teaching ancestral traditions (largely Shipibo and Incan-Peruvian), the roles and function of dietas, the less talked-about dangers of brujeria (witchcraft), holistic frameworks for dealing with mystical experiences, and the connection between spirituality and responsibility towards nature. The course features 20 hours of Del Río's teachings (with subtitles) and is the first time they've been made available to the general public. He talks about: The importance of following guidelines when working with ayahuasca, and how Westerners often don't respect the rigor required to do it right The different types of healers in the Shipibo tradition, from good and bad to the “Ascended Master,” who transcends physical limits and is incapable of causing harm The potential for ayahuasca to be weaponized, how often this happens, and the risks for Westerners who aren't aware How the consciousness level of a person can be related to the emotions that that person allows themselves to have How the expansion of consciousness is healing in itself and more! Ancestral Teachings for the Psychedelic Renaissance is a self-paced course that can be taken at any time, so if you're interested, take advantage of early bird pricing and check it out in the Psychedelic Education Center now! For links, head to the show notes page.

Melissa Stangl holds a Master's Degree in Biomedical Engineering from the University of Pennsylvania, USA. After several years conducting brain and lung cancer research and gaining managerial experience across a wide range of businesses, her interests turned toward the healing power and responsible use of plant medicines and psychedelics, and working with the wisdom traditions and cultures that steward them. In 2015, she consciously chose to leave Corporate America and moved to live and work in the Amazon jungle. Melissa has since used her background in engineering, science, and management to help advance the plant medicine and psychedelic movements – first by managing a top-rated ayahuasca center in Peru, and now as Founding Partner and COO for Soltara Healing Center, an ayahuasca center working with Shipibo healers in Costa Rica and Peru, with a focus on integration. She is also Co-founder of the Soltara Community Platform, a conscious community platform centered around holistic healing and plant medicine preparation & integration.Melissa serves on the Advisory Board of the Elected Leaders Collective and collaborates with multiple organizations in the field through her work at Soltara, including the Chacruna Institute, Amazon Watch, the Indigenous Reciprocity Initiative, Imperial College, Johns Hopkins, New York State Psychiatric Institute, Amazon Rainforest Conservancy, Heroic Hearts Projects, VETS Inc., and more recently, has been working with other centers in Costa Rica to form a national alliance of ayahuasca centers to support the implementation of frameworks for ethical standards, approaches, education, and political advocacy.She is passionate about using her technical, managerial, and problem-solving skills to help bridge the gap between the Western world and the incredible healing potential of plant medicines, their traditions, and a holistic approach to health.Episode Highlights▶ How Melissa went from the corporate world doing cancer research to finding her passion for ayahuasca ▶ The power of integration after using plant medicine▶ The work Melissa does at Soltara and the focus on integration▶ The importance of psychedelic-informed bodyworkers, holistic practitioners, or somatic therapists.▶ The challenges and realities of running a retreat center▶ Cultural sensitivity in psychedelic practices▶ Healers' perspectives on sharing medicine globally▶ The role of ayahuasca in global healing▶ The work Melissa does in her retreat center and what she has planned for the futureMelissa Stangl's Links & ResourcesWebsite: https://soltara.coInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/soltarahealingcenter/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/soltarahealingcenter/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@soltaraTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@soltarahealingcenterSoltara Plant Medicine + Holistic Healing Toolkit-Support your healing journey with frameworks, practical tools, plant medicine resources, and holistic practices you can incorporate into your everyday life:https://soltara-healing-center.ck.page/0ac9267848 Download Beth's free business trainings here: Integrating Psychedelics & Sacred Medicines Into a Transformational Business:https://bethaweinstein.com/psychedelics-in-businessClarity to Clients: Start & Grow a Transformational Coaching, Healing, Spiritual, or Psychedelic Business https://bethaweinstein.com/grow-your-spiritual-business ▶ Beth's Programs & Courses: https://bethaweinstein.com/services▶ Beth on Instagram: http://instagram.com/bethaweinstein▶ Beth Weinstein on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bethw.nychttps://www.facebook.com/BethWeinsteinbiz▶ Join the free Psychedelics & Purpose Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/PsychedelicsandSacredMedicines

Episode 136 of the show is out. In this episode, I spoke with Max Monge Quineche. I met Max a couple of years ago in a shared temazcal in the Sacred Valley of Peru. I was impressed by his presence in the space and out and got to know him a bit and learn of his work with ayahuasca and the Shipibo. So it was a pleasure to finally sit down and speak with him on the podcast after a few years time. We spoke about his background and coming to plant medicines at an early age, his challenges, the plant dieta, knowledge and wisdom, Western and indigenous cosmovisions, family constellation, and much more. I was really impressed by his wisdom and I think his work with plants really shows in how and what he expresses. For those interested in ayahuasca and plant medicine work, I think this is one of the more informative talks you'll find. As always, to support this podcast, get early access to shows, bonus material, and Q&As, check out my Patreon page below. Enjoy!This episode is sponsored by Real Mushrooms. As listeners, visit their website to enjoy a discount of 25% off your first order: https://www.realmushrooms.com/universe“Psicólogo. Logoterapeuta y Analista existencial. Psicoterapeuta Zen. Constelador Familiar. Psicoterapeuta Iniciático. Practicante del Chamanismo Shipibo, con más de 15 años de experiencia en el camino de las Plantas Maestras. Director de Casa Doctor Centro de Sanación Integral.”To learn more about or contact Max, visit his Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/casa_doctor/To view the recent documentary about us, Sacred Tobacco, visit: https://youtu.be/KB0JEQALI_wIf you enjoy the show, it's a big help if you can share it via social media or word of mouth. And please Subscribe or Follow and if you can go on Apple Podcasts and leave a starred-rating and a short review. This is super helpful with the algorithms and getting this show out to more people. Thank you in advance!For more information about me and my upcoming plant medicine retreats with my colleague Merav Artzi, visit my site at: https://www.NicotianaRustica.orgTo book an integration call with me, visit: https://jasongrechanik.setmore.comSupport this podcast on Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/UniverseWithinDonate directly with PayPal:https://www.paypal.me/jasongrechanikMusic courtesy of: Nuno Moreno (end song). Visit: https://m.soundcloud.com/groove_a_zen_sound and https://nahira-ziwa.bandcamp.com/ And Stefan Kasapovski's Santero Project (intro song). Visit: https://spoti.fi/3y5Rd4Hhttps://www.facebook.com/UniverseWithinPodcasthttps://www.instagram.com/UniverseWithinPodcast

Welcome to the Deeper you go the Weirder it gets. I am your host Garett Renon. This episode is a continuation of the last episode. In this episode I talk about Egypt, intelligence in nature and Artificial intelligence. I also talk about how our current understanding about the natural world and even our history is based not on facts but theories. Which is absolutely mind blowing when you think about it.Show your support. Please like, share and comment!Get Pine Pollen and a NEW HAT - Online StoreSignup for newsletter: Send email to: ayahumero@proton.me with subject line "I Want In"Podcast gear available at: https://deeper-you-go-the-weirder-it.myspreadshop.com/Feel free to reach out with questions: ayahumero@proton.meDeeper you go Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deeper_weirder/Book: The Self-Sabotage Guide: 9 Behaviors Preventing You from Becoming Stronger, Faster, And SexierThank you all for supporting the show!

Welcome to the Deeper you go the Weirder it gets. I am your host Garett Renon. This episode is about the emergence of AI and how it relates to a vision I had back in 2020. This episode is also an update about my situation. It's been 2-months since my last episode and I explain what I have been up to.Show your support. Please like, share and comment!Get Pine Pollen and a NEW HAT - Online StoreSignup for newsletter: Send email to: ayahumero@proton.me with subject line "I Want In"Podcast gear available at: https://deeper-you-go-the-weirder-it.myspreadshop.com/Feel free to reach out with questions: ayahumero@proton.meDeeper you go Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deeper_weirder/Book: The Self-Sabotage Guide: 9 Behaviors Preventing You from Becoming Stronger, Faster, And SexierThank you all for supporting the show!

Mee Ok Icaro (pronounced “Mee Oak Ee-car-oh”), is a unique and powerful voice in the world of visionary medicine and personal growth. As a Writer, Book Doula, Sacred Medicine Advisor and Integration Specialist, Life Purpose Coach and Guide, Mee Ok is dedicated to helping individuals heal and find their path in life. Skilled in Gabor Maté's Compassionate Inquiry approach, a method she has personally integrated for over a decade to transform her own life, she integrates many teachings from a variety of traditions, from ancient to modern.With a passion for writing and a talent for prose, Mee Ok is an award-winning stylist and poet. Her work has appeared in notable publications like the LA Times, Boston Globe Magazine, and Michael Pollan's Trips Worth Telling anthology. She was even featured in Gabor Maté's New York Times bestseller The Myth of Normal and the Netflix docuseries [Un]Well. With over a decade of experience working with ayahuasca and dieting seven master plants, Mee Ok is curing a near-fatal autoimmune disease, scleroderma, and is dedicated to helping others heal and recover their birthright of authenticity and truth.Mee Ok holds a BA in Philosophy from Boston University and an MFA in Creative Nonfiction, and has studied the history of sexuality and medicine at Harvard. She is currently in the process of being initiated in her own indigenous tradition of Korean shamanism (mudang) and as an ayahuasquera in the Shipibo lineage. With a diverse set of passions, including racial and disability equity, adoptee advocacy, social justice, film, literature, doggies, and drag, Mee Ok is a curious soul with a wealth of knowledge and experience she loves to share. To learn more about her writing and work, visit Mee-ok.comWebsite: https://holdingcompassionate.space/Music by Corey Quinn

After an inspiring Awakin Call with Madhu Anziani last month, Reinaldo, Madhu and a few more heartful artists are coming back for a unique experiment -- A musical immersion into the three worlds of shamanic journey, through singing, chanting and drumming.  About Three Worlds: As per Inca mythology, we inhabit three worlds simultaneously, and many other spiritual practices discuss the “middle path” in a similar way.  These worlds are said to exist within us and all around us: Ukhupacha: the “lower world,” that of our unconscious and house of psychological wounds, ancestral baggage, past life influences, and as-yet-realized potential (snake energy) Kaypacha: the “middle world,” which might define the tapestry for our everyday experiences; the primal energy of this world is survival, but when balanced and secure, we can focus on mindfulness and present-moment awareness (puma power). Hanaqpacha:  the “upper world,” also known as the world of our becoming, future potential, and possibilities; this may also be a link to where our destiny or purpose feels in alignment with our actions, as if we are “divinely inspired” (condor symbolism). Our hope is co-create a vibrational field for a deeper integration of the three worlds, within and without and we welcome you to join the experiment. Please note that this will be a 75-minute call, including some space for open-mic chants.    About Reinaldo: Reinaldo Pamponet is a Brazilian social entrepreneur and an Ashoka fellow. After working with Microsoft for seven years in Sao Paulo, at the age of thirty, he founded “Eletrocooperativa” in 2004 in Salvador, an impoverished northeastern region of Brazil, to offer an innovative learning atmosphere to youth that better prepares them to be active members of society. After educating on themes related to sustainable development, they were challenged to engage their dormant creativity (like singing!) to produce digital multimedia content to drive social awareness, while also promoting their cultural arts and generating income. The project went viral and was later adopted by the government of Brazil. Building on that, he founded ItsNoon in 2009, a social network to connect people at opposite ends of the economic pyramid, helping those at the bottom earn income using digital technology. He’s recently moved to the United States with his wife and two children. Music has always been a integral part of Reinaldo’s life – spiritually, professionally and in community. He calls himself  “a terrible musician, a good singer” and one who can play almost any instrument, with his favourite being Afro drums. About Madhu: Madhu is a gifted musician, composer, and sound healer. At the age of 23, a few months short of graduating with a degree in jazz and world music from San Francisco State University, a serious accident left him paralyzed from the neck down, incontinent, and unable to breathe on his own. From his hospital bed, he began to apply sound and energy healing practices, together with his family, discovering the true power of vibration to restore health. A few months later, he walked out of the hospital on his own two legs, an extraordinary healing journey featured in a book on energy medicine. Since his recovery, Madhu has been bringing harmony, vibration, and healing to the world as a vocal looping artist, hypnotherapist, sound healer, and ceremonialist. He is certified in sound, voice, and music from the California Institute of Integral Studies. He has also studied with elders and masters in multiple traditions, including the Pachakuti Mesa tradition of Ancestral Peruvian Healing Arts and Wisdom Healing Qigong. The many ancient languages in which he chants include Sanskrit, Tibetan, Shipibo, Quechua, and Hebrew. For his full bio and recent Awakin Call conversation/toning workshop, please click here.   To join, simply RSVP below. You'll be able to see the Zoom link on screen, and it will also be emailed to you. In service, Awakin Call Volunteers   P.S. Meanwhile, you can soak in a couple of recent clips from our guests - here and here. 

In Today's episode, we are thrilled to welcome Shannon and Travis Morehead…   Shannon and Travis Morehead are the founders and Lead facilitators of Great Spirit Farm, a healing and retreat center founded in 2016 in Brooksville, Florida. They mentor in the Shipibo and União do Vegetal (UDV) traditions of ayahuasca, including understanding the plant […]

Hey loves, this is a BONUS EPISODE for you so the wait between Season One and Season Two of VICTORIOUS YOU is not too long for you!I am thrilled to present you the incredible Anna Lesun-Meregalli! This conversation touched me so deeply as the honesty of Anna really got under my skin! Her way to share the most touching and vulnerable parts of her story will be so healing for so many of you who will listen to this Bonus Episode! And her love-story with her now-husband is so unique too

**Please note this call is on Friday, rather than our usual Saturdays. "Losing all of the basic functions of being a human being was the greatest teacher," says musician and composer Madhu Anziani. "It was an opportunity to go fully into the teachings I had received around energy, sound, and vibration." In a baseball cap, hoodie, and jeans, Madhu stands behind a table, singing, swaying, and commanding a loop station, easy and natural as can be. There are no visible signs of his serious accident at the age of 23, during which a broken neck and spinal cord injury left him paralyzed from the neck down, incontinent, and unable to breathe on his own. Left only with his mind and its despairing thoughts, amid a flurry of emotions and poor prognoses, Madhu was forced to discover the gaps between his thoughts. And to realize the immense healing potential of his voice. At the time, Madhu was just about to graduate from San Francisco State University with a degree in jazz and world music performance. He had also just attended his first reiki workshop, a Japanese form of energy healing. Supported by his parents and community, Madhu began to apply sound practices. From his hospital bed, he practiced or listened to them day and night. Two and a half months later, upon his discharge, he walked out of the hospital on his own two legs, an extraordinary healing that was featured in the book, Energy Medicine, by Jill Blakeway. With humility and grace, he distills the process to this: "The primary purpose of a voice is to create vibration. We have this beautiful gift, and we can either create harmony or disharmony." Since his recovery, Madhu has been bringing harmony in a myriad of ways to all dimensions of himself, his ancestors, and the community at large. Madhu was born and raised in a Jewish-Puerto Rican family in the Bay Area, California. When he was in high school, he learned how to meditate from his grandmother. She also taught him how to do toning, an ancient sound healing practice in which vowels are elongated. "The vibrations can heal on the physical level, and can transform the mental, emotional, and spiritual levels, too." There is the sound, he explains, and then the silence between the sounds. The silence allows for the transformation of the sound to integrate more deeply into cellular memory. Toning, he continues, is a way to create space, and this allows us to live our lives with more spaciousness and flow. Madhu is perhaps best known as a vocal looping artist, musician, and composer. He studied jazz and world music at San Francisco State University, and is a regular lecturer there. He chants in numerous ancient languages, including Sanskrit, Tibetan, Shipibo, Quechua, and Hebrew. His music can be found on Spotify and other platforms, as well as under the name The Sami Brothers. Madhu is also a healer and ceremonialist, befitting of his name, which means "sweet nectar of the elders." He offers sessions in clinical hypnotherapy, vocal lessons, sound healing, and ancestral divination. Respectively, he is certified in sound, voice, and music healing from the California Institute of Integral Studies. Sanctioned as a teacher in the Pachakuti Mesa tradition of Ancestral Peruvian Healing Arts, which offers apprenticeship in earth honoring rituals and living in sacred reciprocity with spirits of nature. Blessed by Master Mingtong Gu to teach 5-Organ Sound Healing for emotional purification in the lineage of Wisdom Healing Qigong, Madhu has also been initiated as a stick diviner in the West African Dagara tradition, and serves as a medium between this world, the ancestral world, and the spirits of nature. "The whole universe is vibration. So when we make vibrations, we are communicating with the whole universe. We are vibrational beings in a vibrational experience." Please join us with this creative maker of harmony and healing in a call that will be part-conversation, part-workshop, with an invitation to explore sound, vibration, and the essence of being.

On this week's episode I am joined by IssaMary Blanco. A forgiveness coach and shamanic healer who dropped all kinds of golden nuggets around self-forgivenes, healing after trauma, and learning to be in your heart space instead of living so much in your headspace. Be sure to listen to the end for when she gives you realistic tools that you can start using today to truly get into your heart space. IssaMary is on the Shamanic path with over 10 years of plant medicine experience, trained under the Shipibo and Q'ero Shamanic Lineages and apprenticed under Maestro Shamans and the spirits of master plants directly. Additionally, also trained and initiated by a Hawaiian Kahuna, ‘Ha'ealaulani, as a Ho'oponopono Forgiveness Practitioner. As an Energy Healer, qualified as a Usui Reiki Master, Lightarian Reiki Master and Quantum Healing Master. All of the above, together with her expertise as a counselling therapist allows to safely guide you on your journey of self-love, compassion and connection, creating a safe space for you to let go of anything holding you back and break free from the patterns and limitations that keep your from unlocking your full potential and your endless possibilities. Connect with IssaMary: Website Facebook Instagram Be sure to subscribe to the podcast to get all the latest episodes! Head over to my website here for all the ways you can connect with me!

In this captivating episode, we sit down with Issa Mary Blanco, a light in the world, via shamanic healing and forgiveness therapy.  As the visionary Founder, Director, and CEO of IssaMary Blanco Shamanic Healing & Forgiveness Therapy, Issa Mary is dedicated to the profound mission of "Bridging MIND and HEART," a testament to her holistic approach to healing. With a rich tapestry of experiences spanning decades, Issa Mary brings the wisdom of ancient shamanic lineages to the forefront of modern healing practices.  Her journey is deeply rooted in the traditions of the Shipibo, Inca Q'ero, and Sangoma Shamanic Lineages, where she was trained and nurtured under the guidance of Maestro Shamans and the enlightening spirits of master plants.  Her path also led her to the sacred teachings of Hawaiian Kahuna, ‘Ha'ealaulani, where she was initiated as a Ho'oponopono Forgiveness Practitioner, embracing the power of forgiveness as a cornerstone of healing. In this episode, Issa Mary shares her unique insights into the world of plant medicine, the transformative power of forgiveness, and the intricate dance of self-love and compassion.  She invites listeners into her sanctuary of healing, where she creates safe spaces for individuals to release their burdens, break free from limiting patterns, and unlock the endless possibilities that lie within. Join us as we explore Issa Mary's journey, her profound connection with the shamanic and therapeutic realms, and her unwavering commitment to guiding others toward a harmonious union of mind, heart, and spirit.  This episode invites all to seek a deeper understanding of themselves and the world, offering a glimpse into the transformative potential of embracing our inner light and the healing power of forgiveness. ****If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show, share it with a friend and leave a review below or on the Spotify app  ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4JfM1ZitoXTP6DXXfUbqRm?si=9f68c2de30a5446f⁠  **** Connect with Issa Mary https://issamaryblanco.com/  https://www.instagram.com/issamaryblanco/  Connect with Jp ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/NextStepsAcademy   Are you ready to Unleash your Inner Warrior at the Warrior Women Within Summit on Saturday, April 13th? Register Here-- https://sutra.co/space/q0nfk0  

“Myth as Medicine: Why Ancient Stories Matter in the Modern World.” Dive into a conversation with Simon Yugler, a masterful guide at the intersection of myth, psyche, and transformation, as we navigate the ancient pathways that myths layout in our modern era. In this episode, we explore the enduring power of mythology, its connection to the earth, and its relevance in contemporary healing practices, including the burgeoning field of psychedelic therapy.   In this episode, we delve into: The Relevance of Mythology: Unpacking the significance of ancient stories in our present-day reality. Why turn to myths in an age dominated by technology and empirical science? Mythology and Shamanism: Exploring the deep lessons mythology offers about shamanic practices and altered states of consciousness. How do these ancient narratives inform and embody shamanic journeys? Mythology in Modern Healing: The use of mythology to deepen the impact of psychedelic and shamanic healing practices. Discover the transformative power of myths in therapeutic contexts. Reconnecting with the Earth: How myths serve as a vital link to the land, fostering a sense of belonging and stewardship for our planet. Understanding Mythopoetics: An introduction to mythopoetics and its crucial role in enriching our lives and cultures. Why does crafting meaning out of story matter? Characters and Archetypes: Simon shares his affinity for certain mythological figures and archetypes, shedding light on their significance and what they reveal about human nature. The Stories We Need to Hear: Discussion on the essential myths and narratives that hold powerful lessons and insights for today's world.   About Simon Yugler: Simon brings a wealth of knowledge and experience as an internationally recognized psychedelic therapist, educator, and author. With a Masters in Depth Counseling Psychology from Pacifica Graduate Institute, his book, "Psychedelics & the Soul: A Mythic Guide to Psychedelic Healing, Depth Psychology, and Cultural Repair," has touched many. Simon's approach draws from his extensive travel and learning from Indigenous cultures, including his involvement with the Shipibo ayahuasca tradition and the Native American Church. His background as an experiential educator and retreat leader, alongside his deep understanding of the soul's terrain, positions Simon as a unique voice in the realms of mythology, therapy, and cultural healing. Based in Portland, Oregon, Simon is devoted to guiding individuals through the wilds of the soul with compassion, wisdom, and a deep respect for the ancient stories that connect us all. Join host Angel Deer and Simon Yugler for this transformative journey through myth, memory, and the meaningful connections that tie us to our world, both seen and unseen. Tune in to “Myth as Medicine: Why Ancient Stories Matter in the Modern World,” and rediscover the power of mythology to heal, inspire, and awaken.

Host Jon Reiss opens up about his first ayahuasca experience with the ceremonialist who started him on his journey. In this episode of Plantscendence, we sit down with Sitaramaya Sita, the spiritual herbalist, pusangera, and plant wisdom practitioner who guided Jon's very first entheogenic experience four years ago. Together they recount that initial ceremony, detailing both its ecstatic and challenging moments, and touching upon plant medicine's role in fostering neuroplasticity and the creation of neural pathways. Sita tells the story of her chance first-encounter with plant medicine on Maui in 1997, and the two and a half decade journey that followed, including Sita's extensive training with the indigenous Shipibo people of the Peruvian Amazon. The episode also addresses the escalating threats posed by deforestation, clear-cutting, and modern development, emphasizing the urgent need to protect the Amazon rainforest and preserve indigenous knowledge.Plantscendence.com

What if a sacred elixir exists that could help you make sense of your life and the world around you? Are you looking to grow spiritually and need support on your healing journey?In this easy to read, simple and honest book, the author, who is a Shaman, offers keen insights and valuable knowledge from his personal experience of sitting in hundreds of Ayahuasca ceremonies and gives you access to gain the most from them.Through engaging client stories and deceptively simple exercises, readers can develop self-awareness, gain mastery over their emotions, and access the power to heal themselves with or without drinking Ayahuasca.Join author Alan Waugh on his remarkable journey out of depression that will inspire you to pursue your own journey of self-discovery, live an extraordinary life and unlock the sweet spot of healing!When should you read this book:Before you drink Ayahuasca to discover if you are ready to drinkAfter you drink Ayahuasca to integrate what you experiencedTo learn how you can heal from past traumas without drinking AyahuascaTo discover how the author demystifies AyahuascaTo gain a roadmap to the Sweet Spot, and much more!Alchemical Ayahuasca is an inspiring memoir by an internationally recognized Healer and Ayahuasca Ceremony Leader. If you like relatable true stories, simple teachings, and unpretentious expert advice about plant medicine, then you'll love Alan Francis Waugh's remarkable wisdom; he demystifies Ayahuasca and his book is medicine for your soul.Alan Waugh trained as a plant Shaman in the Shipibo tradition of Peru. He is an internationally recognized Healer, Ayahuasca Ceremony Leader, Reiki Master, Hypnotherapist and Freedom Breathworker. He began following a spiritual path from his mid 20's in the midst of a decade long period of severe depression. Through developing the understanding that actions have consequences, Alan took dramatic steps to change his actions to allow for a change in outcome, part of which involved leaving his birthplace of the UK and spending several years traveling the world to places of spiritual power such as India, Tibet, Nepal, Africa and locations in South America. Through contemplative practices and immersing himself in ancient wisdom traditions, Alan gained a clear understanding of mind/body connections and skills to release negative states of mind. Alan has not experienced depression for 30 years. He now dedicates his time in service to helping create a better world by helping others achieve a life of happiness and fulfillment. With over 20 years of working as a hospice volunteer, he assisted hundreds of dying people through the final stages of life."My passion is to assist as many clients as I can to attain optimum health, happiness and personal success, through developing healthy relationships, a fulfilling career, a spiritual practice and learning how to live more fully in the world. My mission is to make available to you the experience and knowledge I have developed through many years of training, exploration, and wisdom gained through years of trial and error. This combined with gentle loving support, will help you successfully move in the direction of your personal healing goals."Alan has successfully guided over a thousand clients in safe medicine ceremonies in the US and South America. He founded the Sacred Valley Spiritual Retreat Center in Mount Shasta, California and now lives in Vilcabamba, Ecuador with his Beloved Dianna, where they offer healing work, trainings and plant ceremonies at their retreat center Sacred Valley Retreats- in Vilcabamba, Ecuador.https://www.alchemicalayahuasca.com/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/earth-ancients--2790919/support.

In this week's solo episode, I'm going to pull back the curtain on Ayahuasca – I'm going to talk about what it actually is, why I felt called to do it, why it's not for everyone (I want to say that right up front), at least perhaps not right now in your life, and I'm going to share intimate details about my experience traveling to the rainforest of Costa Rica for an ayahuasca plant medicine retreat, consisting of 3 ayahuasca ceremonies.  And I'll tell you right now, it was one of the most incredible experiences of my life. To stay connected with Better Place Project and for updates and behind the scenes info, please follow us on social media:Website:https://www.betterplaceproject.org/ Instagram: @BetterPlaceProj To follow Steve on Instagram@SteveNorrisOfficialFacebook: Facebook.com/BetterPlaceProjectPodcastTwitter: @BetterPlaceProjEmail: BetterPlaceProjectPodcast@gmail.com

Join the H-Hour community today on Discord: https://discord.gg/ncFRpvTkjX ***** Dr Simon Ruffell is a Psychiatrist & Senior Research Fellow and co-founder of Onaya Science. Dr WaiFung Tsang is a Clinical Psychologist and co-founder of Onaya Science. This conversation explores the research and therapeutic potential of ayahuasca, a psychedelic brew used in indigenous communities in South America. The discussion covers topics such as epigenetic changes, the long-term effects of ayahuasca, the gut-brain connection, and the involvement of indigenous communities in research. The conversation also touches on the challenges of conducting research in a shamanic and ritualistic context and the perception of ayahuasca research in the scientific community. This conversation explores various aspects of ayahuasca and its impact on spiritual practices, the benefits of plant medicine and Chinese medicine, the availability and variations of ayahuasca, research on ayahuasca-like compounds, the selection of the Shipibo community for retreats, the journey of research and learning in ayahuasca, the Amazon as an unknown cradle of civilization, future research and expansion of studies, exploring ayahuasca and traumatic brain injury, the changing perception of psychedelics in society, Onaya's website and training programs, and funding and support for Onaya's research.

In this episode, I dive into my first experience with Ayahuasca (in the Shipibo tradition). It has taken me a half a year just to put words to this week-long retreat that you, dear listener, might understand. This experience has been decades in the making, and I want to try to give you the most honest and authentic recap of my entire experience.  Also, we're breaking this convo into two parts so it doesn't run three hours long because I'm not Joe Rogan, obviously! In part one, I take you through: -my fear-filled journey leading up to Ayahuasca -the intense preparation -getting to Costa Rica -an overview of a 7-day retreat -a peek inside my first ceremony (and I'll tell you where I went) Like my Ketamine sessions, this experience has been difficult to describe with words, but I'm here to give it my best shot. I hope you'll bring your curiosity and listen with an open mind. ----more---- LINKS: Lindsay's Instagram Ayahuasca Highlight on IG  Soltara Healing Center Get Your Copy of Wake Up! Wake Up by Lindsay Teague Moreno ----more---- Lindsay Teague Moreno author + speaker + podcaster WEBSITE: www.lindsaytm.com INSTAGRAM: @lindsayteague FACEBOOK: @ltmauthor PODCAST: www.wakeupthepodcast.com PINTEREST: @lindsayteague

The Frequency of Celestial Harmony with Flicka Rahn Flicka Rahn is an internationally known vocal performer, author, teacher and published composer. She served on the music faculty at Texas A&M University Corpus Christi for 22 years in addition to Brandeis University in Boston, and the Boston Conservatory of Music. As a professional soprano she has appeared with the Boston Lyric Opera, Boston Philharmonic, New York Wagner Society, Minnesota Grand Opera, San Antonio Opera and the Sinfonia de Queretaro, Mexico. She has traveled throughout Mexico with notable Mexican artists presenting Uniting Nations through Music. Since 2015, Ms. Rahn has been practicing sound therapy at the Integrative Healing Institute in San Antonio. She is a co-founder of the Transcendence Project, co-creator of the Innergy Tuner app and co-author with Tammy McCrary and The Transformational Power of Sound and Music book. In 2012, as a Fulbright Scholar, she traveled to the Universidad Autonoma de Queretaro in Queretaro, Mexico, and taught courses on American art songs and American musical theater. She returned to Queretaro in 2015 to produce and direct musical presentations at the Proarte Escuela de Danza and the Centro Estudios de Musicales. In 2016, she continued her work in Mexico appearing with the Queretaro Symphony in their annual Opera Gala, performing solos and ensembles with Mexican vocal artists. She continues to have a large studio of classical vocal students in Queretaro, Mexico. In 2017, she and Mexican tenor, Andres Pichardo (add Andres' link) presented concerts in four cities throughout Mexico. In 2018, she returned to sing two concerts, “Amigos Para Siempre,” in Mexico City and Queretaro with tenors, Alberto Angel and Andres Pichardo.” As a composer, Ms Rahn's sacred and secular pieces for vocal soloists, choirs, and opera companies have been performed at universities, educational institutions, churches, museums, and temples. Her art songs are published in the series Art Songs by American Women Composers. In 2017, she and fellow musician, Daniel Wyman, recorded and released an album of meditation and healing music under the name The Icaros, and released their debut album Chakra Soundscapes, in 2018. This beautiful musical interpretation was inspired by her experiences of the improvised healing songs of the Shipibo shamans from the Amazon jungle in Peru. The Icaros followed up with the elegantly produced Hymns to Gaia: Honoring the Elements in 2019 and Ascension in August of 2021. The Icaros continues to perform at festivals and events in the US, Mexico and the UK. LINK: 

Greetings from back home. That's right, I am back from the jungle. I have been back for about a month. I will say that the transition from diet life/jungle life to regular life has been tough which is why I have been late on putting this episode out. With that being said I am finally getting settled back in and  I am excited about the future and starting this next chapter. This episode is about the final days of my year long sama. I talk about the closing process, connecting with ayahuma, singing in the maloka and what the path of the ayahumero looks like moving forward..Show your support. Please like, share and comment!Get Pine Pollen - Shopify Store  Podcast gear available at: https://deeper-you-go-the-weirder-it.myspreadshop.com/Feel free to reach out with questions: garett.renon@gmail.comDeeper you go Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deeper_weirder/Book: The Self-Sabotage Guide: 9 Behaviors Preventing You from Becoming Stronger, Faster, And SexierThank you all for supporting the show!

Psychedelic and plant medicine mentor Skye Weaver beams in to talk about cannabis therapy, spiritual integration, and embracing indigenous, communal, sacred self-care practices on episode 142 of the Far Out with Faust podcast. Skye Weaver is a medicine mentor, psychedelic self-care specialist, and earth medicine mentor supporting the international medicine community through mentorship, education, and ceremony. Skye hosts community psychedelic integration circles through InnerSpace Integration and the Aware Project to support the community in the spaces between Ceremonies. Skye also founded NOT a Shaman School, an in-depth, experiential training for new and seasoned journeyers who feel called to practice integral medicine work and learn guardianship and facilitation skills. She hosts CannAbyss, a legal, above-ground cannabis practice for people interested in exploring non-ordinary states of consciousness in a safe, legal and navigable way. Skye trained at the Hakomi Institute of California (Mindful Somatic Psychotherapy) and with Medicinal Mindfulness (PSS1-3, Psychedelic First Aid/CPR and DMTx) where she is now on the leadership team and helps co-facilitate trainings and retreats. Skye is also a certified yoga teacher, Reiki Master in the Usui & Karuna lineages, trained bodyworker in Thai Yoga Massage and stretch therapy, and has her MFA in acting from Harvard.In this episode, Faust and Skye explore the mind-extending world of psychedelics and plant medicine. Topics include:-The difference between Big Pharma and psychedelics/plant medicines-How psychedelics work to facilitate personal healing and enlightenment-The importance of integrating lessons learned from plant medicine -How plant medicine and other psychedelics impact the brain and consciousness-The difference between using plant medicine in isolation and in community-The healing power of community-Comparing and contrasting various indigenous tribal plant medicine practices-The therapeutic benefits of cannabis-Cannabis as a Somatic Psychedelic-Cannabis as a Mother Medicine vs. other types of plant medicine-The decriminalization of psychedelics-The future potential of psychedelic healing and therapeutic modalitiesConnect with Skye WeaverInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theskyeweaver/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheSkyeWeaver/InnerSpace Integration: https://innerspaceintegration.com/Aware Project: https://awareproject.org/0:00 - Skye Weaver Podcast1:37 - Introducing Skye Weaver4:47 - Skye's background and how her personal journey led her to the spiritual work with plant medicine9:36 - Balance between psychedelics/plant medicine and pharmaceuticals … the right time, place and function for appropriate support. Also diving into the importance of INTEGRATION - “the work between the work”20:25 - Diving into the positive effects of psychedelics on the brain, creating more interconnectivity, breaking unhealthy pattern and healing trauma43:10 - Importance and benefits of healing and integrating with COMMUNITY … throughout history to present day.50:13 - The sacred arts and healing technology of Shipibo lineage and diets with master plants 55:58 - Skye's therapeutic work with cannabis, looking beyond its recreation and examining the profound spiritual and somatic healing benefits#Podcast #PlantMedicine #Psychedelic

Episode 90. Heather Gray FDN-P welcomes Pat Miller, a shaman and massage therapist. Pat shares her inspiring journey to becoming a guide for others, emphasizing the importance of inner work and deep healing. They go into the world of plant medicines like ayahuasca and psychedelics, discussing their potential for personal growth and tackling challenges like trauma and addiction. In this podcast, you will discover  0:10 - Psychedelics and healing with a shaman 1:47 - Pat shares her story of becoming a shaman through apprenticeship and trips to Peru (working with ayahuasca). 3:32 - Peaceful and gentle first ayahuasca journey, comparing it to a cat's purr. 5:32 - Explanation of a shaman's role. Pat highlights them as guides who hold space for others' inner work. 8:15 - A powerful story about confronting a core wound from her childhood, and finding forgiveness and gratitude for her mother's struggles. 11:24 - Plant medicine and personal growth. 11:34 - Plant medicines like ayahuasca and psilocybin, describing them as sentient beings and work with them as a conversation. 12:32 - People who can benefit from psychedelics, including those dealing with trauma, addiction, and mental illness. 16:00 - Ayahuasca experience, highlighting the emotional release and healing it brought. 21:25 - Pat sings a traditional Shipibo medicine song invoking the cleansing light of this sacred tree. 25:35 - Healing arts, sound healings, and cacao ceremonies.  Get Pluck: https://eatpluck.com/?ref=e32vz28k use TheLymeBoss for 10% off  Find Pat:  www.Facebook.com/apukunahealingarts Reach Heather Gray FDN-P here: heather@thelymeboss.com Get healthier food into your diet with these easy, yummy, fast meals today!  Download your free video series Real Cooking For Real Life here. https://thelymeboss.com/ #Thelymebosspodcast #Lymepostcast #Healinglymepodcast #healingjourney #innerwork #personalgrowth #selfdiscovery #wellbeing #mentalhealth #emotionalhealth #spirituality #mindbodyspirit #alternativehealing #plantmedicine #ayahuasca #psychedelics #shaman #sacredplants #healingplants  --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lymebossheathergray/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lymebossheathergray/support

Neils' spiritual practice is primarily informed by the decade he spent living in Peru. During this time, he worked extensively with indigenous shamanic traditions of the Shipibo, Mestizo, and Quechua cultures. He has created, directed, and facilitated many Ayahuasca retreats throughout Latin America and guided thousands of clients through their personal plant medicine journeys. Episode Overview:In this insightful conversation, Neils shares his unique experiences from a decade in Peru, working closely with the Shipibo, Mestizo, and Quechua cultures. He reveals the profound impact of Amazonian plant medicine and indigenous healing practices on personal growth and healing mental illnesses. Listen as Neils discusses the intricate relationship between spirituality, plant medicine, and embracing adversity for a more authentic life. We also tackle the crucial topics of plant medicine safety, authenticity, and the potential healing power of Ayahuasca on trauma and the mind.
Time Stamps:- (00:01:00) – Introduction- (00:05:51) – Amazonian Plant Medicine and Its Cultural Significance.- (00:11:58) – Amazonian Healing Practices and Plant Medicine- (00:17:58) – Indigenous Healing Practices and Plant Medicine- (00:27:10) – Spirituality, Plant Medicine, and Personal Growth - (00:33:48) – Plant Medicine Safety and Authenticity- (00:40:35) – Ayahuasca Safety and Potential for Healing Mental Illnesses- (00:46:16) – Ayahuasca and Its Effects on Trauma and the Mind- (00:53:59) – Plant Medicine Ceremonies and Personal Growth- (01:01:05) – Embracing Adversity for Personal Growth- (01:05:51) – Embracing Adversity and Living a More Authentic Life- (01:11:28) – Plant Medicine and Healing Retreats in Peru and Costa Rica- (01:16:57) – End of EpisodeTodays Sponsor-

This week has two legendary guests - Steve DeAngelo and Firstman. This episode  explores cannabis, not just as a plant, but as a pivotal element in the tapestry of wellness, sustainability, and conscious living. We're peeling back layers of systemic racism tied to cannabis prohibition, and with the help of the Last Prisoner Project, we're illuminating the dark corners of cannabis-related incarceration injustices.Have you ever considered the spiritual kinship between humans and plants? Join us as we link arms with esteemed guests to navigate the spiritual significance of cannabis within Rastafari and indigenous Shipibo traditions. We're scrutinizing the cultural symbols of cannabis and psychedelics, questioning the corporatization of an industry that could take a leaf out of the book of communal healing and empowerment offered at retreats like the Rastafari Indigenous Village. The episode wraps up with a thoughtful critique of the cannabis industry's trajectory while highlighting the potential of psychedelic retreats to foster social justice and enable empowering change. Tune in for an episode that's more than just a conversation—it's a rallying cry for unity, understanding, and a reconnection to the wisdom of plant teachers.Guest bios: Firstman: Firstman is a longtime advocate for the sustainable development of the cultural industry through the preservation, protection and promotion of cultural events; community development projects; traditional knowledge, and indigenous expression. He is one of the original founders of Rastafari Indigenous Village (RIV); a father, drummer, chanter, singer, songwriter, and orator. Firstman is a founding member of Life Is A Ceremony retreat. https://rastavillage.comSteve DeAngelo:  Steve is a globally recognized cannabis leader who was dubbed “the father of the legal industry” by former Speaker of the California Assembly Willie Brown. A lifelong cannabis activist, author, educator, and entrepreneur, Steve has spent almost a half-century on the front lines of the cannabis liberation movement. Steve believes that cannabis and the other visionary plants offer humanity a wisdom that is necessary to preserve the planet and all her creatures. He will continue his work until these medicines and the people who revere them have a safe and honored place in all human societies.Support the showThanks for listening to another episode. Follow, review, and share to help Consciously Clueless grow! Shop my fav conscious brands. Click here for information on how to work with me.Join the conscious community on Patreon. Instagram | Facebook | LinkedIn | Youtube | Tiktok Music by Matthew Baxley

Welcome to the Deeper you go the Weirder it gets. I am your host Garett Renon. Greetings from the jungle! I am on my final week of being in the jungle and this episode is about my first ceremony of my closing process. In order to close a year long diet with ayahuma 4 ceremonies are required. This episode is about night 1. Show your support. Please like, share and comment!Podcast gear available at: https://deeper-you-go-the-weirder-it.myspreadshop.com/Pine pollen and Fermented Herbal Tonics available: Email for detailsFeel free to reach out with questions: garett.renon@gmail.comDeeper you go Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deeper_weirder/Book: The Self-Sabotage Guide: 9 Behaviors Preventing You from Becoming Stronger, Faster, And SexierThank you all for supporting the show!

Welcome back to The Trip Report Podcast, a production of Beckley Waves, a Psychedelic Venture Studio.Today, we're speaking with John MacLean, AKA The Juan MacLean, an electronic music artist, DJ, and co-founder and co-owner of Cardea—a psychedelic medicine space that facilitates experiences in New York City and Jamaica.I wanted to speak with John because he has a unique lens into the emerging psychedelic world given his role as a DJ and psychedelic facilitator in a wide variety of settings. He has also had one of the most fascinating careers of anyone I have ever met.What started as a fascination with music and psychedelic states as a teenager has led to a career combining the two for more than three decades.As a Brooklyn-based DJ and producer, John has been a mainstay in the NYC music scene for decades while also touring at legendary international venues across Europe, Asia, and North America. Since the release of his first records on his DFA record label in 2002, he has built a reputation for eclectic, genre-bending sets that have earned him residencies at iconic clubs around the world.He has been a practitioner of Ashtanga Yoga and Zen and trained as an Ayahuasquero in the Shipibo tradition. He credits the 12-step program with saving his life and ayahuasca with renewing it.In this wide-ranging conversation, we discuss:* How the changing cultural landscape allows John to feel comfortable talking publicly about the psychedelic side of his work;* A period of his life in which he experienced intense depression and occasionally contemplated suicide;* His hope that his first ayahuasca experience would relieve his symptoms, only to be hurled onto a spiritual path, having had his worldview and belief structure completely recast;* His training in the Shipibo tradition;* The authenticity, legitimacy, and originality of traditional lineage-based knowledge in a rapidly changing world; * And much, much more.And now I bring you my conversation with John Maclean.Listen to the episode on Substack, Spotify, Google or Apple.Credits:* Hosted by Zach Haigney * Produced by Zach Haigney, Erin Greenhouse, and Katelin Jabbari* Find us at thetripreport.com* Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn and YouTube* Theme music by MANCHO Sounds, Mixed and Mastered by Rollin Weary This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.thetripreport.com

Welcome to the Deeper you go the Weirder it gets. I am your host Garett Renon. Greetings from the jungle right now I just wrapped up week 4. As of now I have 5 more weeks to go until I am finished with this chapter. I am so close but yet it still feels so far away. But we are out here grinding just taking it day-by-day, one step at a time. This episode is about paranoia, my bomba experience and el chapo, not the Mexican drug lord but the drink. Show your support. Please like, share and comment!  Podcast gear available at: https://deeper-you-go-the-weirder-it.myspreadshop.com/Pine pollen and Fermented Herbal Tonics available: Email for detailsFeel free to reach out with questions: garett.renon@gmail.comDr. Joe Tafur Book: Fellowship of the RiverInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/deeper_weirder/Book: The Self-Sabotage Guide: 9 Behaviors Preventing You from Becoming Stronger, Faster, And SexierThank you all for supporting the show!

Greetings from the jungle. I am now 2.5 weeks into my two month stay at Nihue Rao. The purpose of this trip is to close out my year long sama with ayahuma. This episode is an update on how things have been going so far. This episode was recored on November 29th, 2023Show your support. Please like, share and comment!  Podcast gear available at: https://deeper-you-go-the-weirder-it.myspreadshop.com/Pine pollen and Fermented Herbal Tonics available: Email for detailsFeel free to reach out with questions: garett.renon@gmail.comDr. Joe Tafur Book: Fellowship of the RiverInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/deeper_weirder/Book: The Self-Sabotage Guide: 9 Behaviors Preventing You from Becoming Stronger, Faster, And Sexier Thank you all for supporting the show!

On this episode Matt sits down with Timofey “Tima” Trofimenkov. Tima is an entrepreneur, an artist and an apprentice of Shipibo medicine path. Native to a small arctic village in northern Kamchatka peninsula, Russia. Growing up, Tima lived mostly off the resources of the land, fostering a profound bond with nature. In his formative years, nature not only supplied food and medicine but also became an integral part of his being, inspiration and source of wonder and freedom.       In subsequent years, after an extended period as a student, Tima experienced urban life in New York City before eventually relocating to San Antonio, TX. Over the past decade spent in San Antonio, he has not only established several companies but has also resided and conducted his creative endeavors at Studio 111, his art gallery and multimedia art space. While active within the flourishing art community of San Antonio, Tima applied his knowledge in herbal medicine to launch Element Kombucha, a pioneering beverage company in the region.       Concurrently with his work in Texas, 11 years ago he embarked on the journey with sacred Ayahuasca medicine in the jungles of Peru. Frequently visiting Peruvian jungles over the years he developed a profound appreciation for Shipibo healing traditions. Over the years through sacred plant dieting and myriads of ceremonies he grew his relationships with his teachers, Shipibo maestros of medicine, subsequently becoming apprentice to their medicine. He is a part of the community at Caya Shobo Healing Center in Iquitos, Peru where you can find him frequently helping with group facilitations while maintaining a parallel focus on ongoing learning, plant dieting and cultivation of his medicine.       During the conversation Tima shares the story of founding Element Kombucha, and how his passion for the herbal tea began. The two then dive into his initial experiences with Ayahuasca that lead him to take on the medicine path and begin dieting plants regularly, also called 'dieta'. Matt asks several questions to clarify what dieta consists of, and how it is performed. They also touch on the light and dark sides of cannabis, tobacco and shamanism generally. This episode was recorded in-person so it has an intimate and unique vibe. Please enjoy!         Find Tima: https://www.instagram.com/studio111_sa/       Find Matt: https://www.instagram.com/xianarchive/   https://www.youtube.com/@XianArchive       Sponsored by Element Kombucha: https://elementkombucha.com/   Use code 'Xian11' at checkout to save 11%   --- Sponsored by SHEATH: https://sheathunderwear.com   Use code 'TIMEWHEEL' at checkout to save 20%

After 30+ ayahuasca journeys, I finally got to experience the Shipibo medicine with a direct lineage. It was a beautiful experience and a lot has changed for me since then. Overall, I feel ligher, brighter, and more comfortable in my skin. In this episode, I am giving you an integration update: what exactly has changed for me, what steps have I taken to integrate the insights, and what's different about me as a person?I hope this episode inspire you to continue to learn and grow with plant medicines. I started sitting with ayahuasca years ago when I was totally broken, and even though I am not in that place anymore, the plants continue to teach and guide me. No matter where we are in our journey, the plants have so much to teach us.If you haven't listened to the journey reports, check out episode 60 & 64 (linked in the show notes). Thank you to Reunion and their team for facilitating a transformative and important experience in my life. To learn more about Reunion, a not for profit medicine center, listen to episode 69 and check out their website (linked in show notes).Topics covered:Recapping the key insights and takeaways from the ceremoniesMy gut healing journey with a holistic nutritionistGoing through an elimination diet and learning to listen to my digestionIntegrating a new layer of femininity and being a woman in the worldHaving fun with fashion and increasing my confidenceSharpened boundaries around how I want to be treated as a womanOpening up to dating and a relationshipLeaning into darkness fearlesslyPrioritizing fun in life and contributing to communityContributing to a culture of love within my local communityShow Links:Kanna Extract Co - LANA to save 10%Reunion Experience Book a discovery callUse MODERNREUNION when bookingMy Full Review of ReunionEpisode 60 (Ayahuasca journey  pt 1)  (Apple | Spotify)Episode 64 (Ayahuasca journey  pt 2) (Apple | Spotify)Episode  69 with Karina and Julian from Reunion (Apple | Spotify)Krista, my holistic nutritionistmention Modern Psychedelics for 15% off any program!Community Feedback Form — I want to hear from you!This episode was filmed &  produced in collaboration with FWI Media. Check out their beautiful work!If this episode sparked something within, please let me know and leave a review! 1:1 Coaching with LanaInstagram | Facebook  | WebsiteModern Psychedelics Integration JournalDISCLAIMER: Modern Psychedelics does not endorse or support the illegal consumption of any substances. This show is meant for entertainment purposes only. The thoughts, views and opinions on this show should not be taken as life advice, medicinal advice, or therapeutic guidance.  This episode was produced in collaboration with FWI Media. Check out their beautiful work! If this episode sparked something within, please let me know and leave a review! FREEBIES to support your journey 1:1 Coaching with LanaInstagram | YouTube | Web | Facebook DISCLAIMER: Modern Psychedelics does not endorse or support the illegal consumption of any substances. This show is meant for entertainment purposes only. The thoughts, views and opinions on this show should not be taken as life advice, medicinal advice, or therapeutic guidance.

Greetings from the jungle. As of November 11, 2023 I am in the jungle for the last two months of my year long sama. It feels good to be back. And I am excited to see how these final two months unfold.. I have a feeling that it will be a lot of insights and a whole lot of growth…This episode is about my return to the jungle. It's also about the myth of and possibly even the return of the Ayahumero.Show your support. Please like, share and comment!  Podcast gear available at: https://deeper-you-go-the-weirder-it.myspreadshop.com/Pine pollen and Fermented Herbal Tonics available: Email for detailsFeel free to reach out with questions: garett.renon@gmail.comDr. Joe Tafur Book: Fellowship of the RiverInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/deeper_weirder/Book: The Self-Sabotage Guide: 9 Behaviors Preventing You from Becoming Stronger, Faster, And Sexier  Thank you all for supporting the show!

The Arctic and the Amazon may be far apart geographically, but art connects them intimately. As part of a public art project bringing Indigenous artists from both regions together, Inuk artist Niap and the Shipibo artist Olinda Silvano worked on a mural that now graces the campus of Toronto Metropolitan University. They share their inspirations and their collaboration.

Have you thought about what power lies within nature and how we can learn from nature's wisdom? Welcome to an exciting episode, where we peel back the layers of convention to reveal the extraordinary story of Garett Renon. Garett, a former gym owner and personal trainer, steps off the beaten path to explore uncharted territories of personal growth and understanding.

Stuart Adam's career in the arts took a turn when he first experienced ceremonial plant medicine ==================== Please consider donating so I may continue to create free content https://www.podpage.com/speaking-podcast/support/ Speaking Podcast Social Media / Coaching My Other Podcasts https://bio.link/podcaster ==================== Bio of Stuart Adam: As a native New Yorker, Stuart's career in the arts took a turn when he first experienced ceremonial plant medicine. Exploring the esoteric arts, he spent the past 15 years traveling the world, working with different plant medicine lineages – time on the Red Road (Native American Tradition), in Peru with the Shipibo, studying sacred plants in Hawaii and with the Columbian Tiatas. He served plant medicine for years helping people heal. Now he is sharing his lifelong wisdom with students and clients – working with plant spirits, teaching the Alchemy of Prayer and offering spiritual, shamanic and integration guidance in New York and around the world. Through his chosen path of spiritual sovereignty, he continues to study and deepen his wisdom through devotional practice with elements, alchemy, plants and the cosmos. ==================== Please consider donating so I may continue to create free content https://www.podpage.com/speaking-podcast/support/ Speaking Podcast Social Media / Coaching My Other Podcasts https://bio.link/podcaster ==================== What we Discussed: - His Creative Art projects (3mins) - Why he got into drugs (4mins) - How he got into Ayahuasca (7mins) - What is Ayahuasca (10mins) - Purging and how to prepare for your Ayahuasca cermony (12mins) - The healing is when the Dark stuff comes up (16mins) - The Safety with the Community (18mins) - The sharing after the cermony (20mins) - Is it safe to do Ayahuasca a lot of times (22mins) - Listening to the message (25mins) - Do children do Ayahuasca (26mins) - Giving our Power Away (27mins) - The Alchemy of Prayer (28mins) - His Meditation Process (34mins) - Breathwork (37mins) - Teaching how to get your creative process (41mins) - How his Art changed (45mins) - Having an Alter (49mins) and more How to Contact Stuart Adam: https://thealchemyofprayer.com/ https://www.instagram.com/stuart_alchemyof/ =============== Donations  ⁠https://www.podpage.com/speaking-podcast/support/⁠ Speaking Podcast Social Media / Coaching My Other Podcasts + Donations https://bio.link/podcaster