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The Founders Sandbox
Season 4, #3 - Growth Gears for Scaling

The Founders Sandbox

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 23, 2025 31:15 Transcription Available


On this episode of The Founder's Sandbox, Brenda McCabe sits down with Jen Apy, Area Managing Partner and Chief Marketing Officer at Chief Outsiders, to explore how scaling companies can unlock growth through fractional marketing leadership. Jen shares insights from her 30+ years of marketing experience—spanning Mattel, Adobe, Intuit, and now Chief Outsiders—and introduces listeners to the Growth Gears framework: a strategic methodology designed to help small and mid-sized companies grow efficiently and sustainably. Jen and Brenda also dive into key trends such as the rise of “flash teams,” how AI is transforming the marketing playbook, and the importance of being a learning organization in a fast-moving world. You can find out more at https://www.chiefoutsiders.com        transcript:  00:04 So  welcome back to the Founder's Sandbox. I am Brenda McCabe, the host of this monthly podcast where I am joined by business owners, founders, and professional service providers that are scaling businesses. 00:34 with great corporate governance. This podcast is now in its fourth season and very excited to have Jen Apy as my guest today. For those that are subscribed to the Founder Sandbox, you always know that we have a story that's going to be told about the origins of the company and the founder  and the professional's experience as the introduction here. And we will always come back to the... 01:02 the sandbox where we're talking about resilience, purpose-driven and scalable growth. And when Jen, who I've known now for several years, we work in the same ecosystem, spoke to me about the growth gears, that is kind of the overarching framework  of chief outsiders. I was fascinated and wanted to offer the platform of the podcast to get the message out to  business owners that are 01:30 scaling and have not yet thought about using fractional marketing services. So welcome, Jen, to this fourth season. um Absolutely delighted to have you here. Oh, I'm delighted to be here. Excellent.  So we did choose a title. We're gonna you're gonna hear the word growth gears throughout this podcast. So the title for the podcast today is growth gears for scaling. And 01:56 Jen and I kind of share a similar background in the sense that we've been out there over three decades.  I um had my own consulting business. I worked in the McKinsey & Company and reinvented myself uh around really bringing the expertise that I had at multinationals into the ecosystem  of growth stage companies. Jen, tell me you are multifaceted marketing professional over three decades. 02:26 of experience contributing to marketing excellence. Tell us a bit about your origin and your currently, I think since five years ago, the area managing partner and chief marketing officer of Chief Outsiders. So share a bit how your role has evolved and what's it like to be with this company that was once a startup itself. Well, thank you so much for having me, Brenda. It's been a wild ride. 02:56 I feel like I was so lucky  early in my career to work with fabulous marketers at Mattel and Intuit and Adobe.  And now to have  the opportunity to apply those skills to help small to mid-sized companies grow. It's really been a fantastic experience. I feel like this is my purpose. Oh, beautiful. To share these enterprise little marketing skills with smaller companies that 03:25 are hungry for growth.  you when I, when I meet founders or I meet CEOs, I'm always really curious about, know, what's working, what's not working. You know, how do we create this flywheel that can help them grow in scale? It really is, is something I enjoy. You know, you found your purpose and then  I guess your purpose found you  working with chief outsiders because you were also a solopreneur  for years. What would be your 03:54 tagline if if anybody were to just listen to five minutes of the founder sandbox, what would be. Jen appease tagline such a good question. I think it would be be something like committed to growth. I feel like that is my purpose. That's what I enjoy. And you know now it's part of outsiders. I I now have 125 colleagues who feel the same way. They've all been fortune 1000. 04:23 and larger company marketers from a variety of different industries. think collectively we've probably covered over 80 industries, over 5,000 engagements. I mean, it's just incredible that the people at Cheap Outsiders that I get to work with every day. And I do feel like commitment to growth is almost a shared purpose for all of us. That's why we're here, because we love to make an impact, to see that impact on smaller companies and  be a part. 04:52 of their leadership team. We say that we're outsiders, but we're really embedded as insiders and therefore we can have that impact on  companies and watch them grow in scale. It's very gratifying as a marketer. m I  also work in the small and medium sized enterprise area.  And last month I actually wrote a blog on enterprise,  forms of enterprise and the like. 05:18 Did some research  on actually SMEs.  How many  SMEs in your estimation actually  reach  or go beyond $10 million in revenues? SMEs are 47%, I believe, for the number of enterprises in the United States. But how many actually scale beyond the $10 million revenue? You know, it's a surprisingly small number,  like maybe less than 1%. But you know, that's why we're here. 05:47 We want to increase the chances that those companies can scale, you know, 10 million, 50 million, 100 million. We believe that by really applying the market insights, customer insights, competitive insights into, you know, the strategies around positioning and offers and target marketing will lead to the cost of 06:14 efficient and cost effective strategies and execution that will help companies scale. that really is the heart of the growth gears methodology and approach. Well, that's  a great segue. You and I met at the recurring revenue conference, I guess, in the seventh year. And as you walk me through  the growth gears,  you also have an assessment tool. Would you like to  share? 06:42 overarching what is what are the gears, the growth gears, what are the key aspects that  one can be surveyed about and then and how to engage with  the chief outsiders, because I found it fascinating.  And I actually used it with one or two of my clients to kind of get the wheels, no pun intended, right to  to start moving, right? 07:12 Yes, so the assessment that we use asks companies and leaders questions about the business, about how much do they know about their customers, their competitors,  the company, they looked at market trends? And then starts to ask about, do they know where their revenue  comes from, where their growth is gonna come from? they  understand what channels are most efficient and are they measuring uh the effectiveness  of the marketing? 07:41 programs that they have in motion. And it's not every single question that we could ask, but just enough to get them thinking about where growth is gonna come from. And so we use this assessment, usually around this time actually, we're getting close to Q4. And we use it about this time in order to help them think ahead in terms of what are the priorities that are needed for the following year in order to stimulate. 08:08 enable or actualize growth. So if anyone's interested in doing this assessment with me, it's free. Just, you know, reach out to me on LinkedIn, happy to provide you with the link and then have a conversation about what the answers mean. Absolutely. Jen, we'll put those, the survey or the assessment, pardon me, in the show notes. All right. Great. In addition to other areas. So talk to me a little bit about Chief Outsiders. You did say it was a startup at one time. 08:37 How long has it been around? What's the organization look like? And what are the challenges that you particularly are dealing with with the advent of AI? That's a very little question.  That's a great question,  though. But  Chief Outsiders has been around for over 10 years. I think we've been around before the term fractional  executive or fractional marketer was even a term. think 09:01 Maybe early on we might've been discussed as strategic business consultants, right? Because we're helping companies grow in scale. But we've been around for over 10 years. We've been on the Fortune 5000 for quite a few years. I think definitely 10 or more. the way that we've grown is by really focusing on what marketing leadership needs to do. 09:30 for companies, which at the end of the day, it's about  knowing who your customers are, where to find them,  and  then how to grow the company  based on  that focus on finding and retaining customers, whether it's increasing market penetration within a certain target segment or  finding new markets or launching new products,  whatever that growth strategy is, how to harness that  and  help 10:00 a company,  um, scale over time  and marketing has changed so much. I know over the years, mean, I've seen that with your companies is  overwhelming. I pardon. I will get back to the question, but I, many, many years ago, McKinsey, was a marketing expert research. We didn't have all these amazing tools we have today to conjoin analysis, you know, with your Excel sheets, right. And focus groups. 10:29 Right. So the sophistication, channel, you know, growth explosion is, you know, I threw my talent a long time ago. Well, you know, it used to be, you know, direct mail and then websites, right. And then e-commerce and, and then it was about social media and content marketing and then SEO. I mean, it's just daunting. And now we have to be thinking about AI in all facets of the 10:59 the marketing toolkit, right? It's  impacting every aspect of what we do as marketers.  And we have to be thinking about AEO, like answer engine optimization in addition to SEO. So it really is rather overwhelming. So I think that over the years, Chief Outsiders has recognized that the marketing tactics and strategies are going to change and we need to change with it. But that the focus on 11:27 growth is going to come from really the growth gears, right? The approach to understanding the market, understanding how to go to market,  understanding how to  execute cost effectively. So recently in the advent of AI, knowing that it was going to impact so much of the marketing mix, we actually started to develop an AI platform for us to use. Yes, for us to use internally. What it does is confidentially, 11:57 takes all of the insights for all of the engagements that we've done with companies so that when we are working with clients, we can benefit from that collective knowledge and be able to deliver  better, deeper, faster insights from day one for our clients. So deeper insights, proven strategies, best practice execution. There isn't a workstream for marketing sales that isn't going to be impacted by AI. 12:25 So we've definitely thought about that and made sure that we can  leverage all this knowledge in order to help us be better marketers for our clients. That's  fascinating. It's kind of scary, right? So you've basically like in the healthcare industry, you've anonymized, right?  The plethora of data, right?  Within the  walls  of 12:54 chief outsiders of the 10 years of experience and I don't know how many clients, right? To then really document and have your own, for lack of another word, I guess, is it? The knowledge base. The knowledge base, but it's kind of an ocean, right? Data ocean. Yeah. And, you know, and this is how the AI tools work. 13:19 We figured we might as well have something that we can use on a proprietary basis and that can help us not only create our deliverables and have better deliverables, but also to help us manage processes.  Because as we talked about with marketing, there's just so much going on, so much to consider, so much to do. This AI platform also helps us to manage those processes.  And one of the things we haven't talked about yet is fractional resources. 13:47 I believe really are the future of work. And that's one of the reasons why I'm so excited to be a part of Chief Outsiders because we believe that as well. And that's also part of the reason why we built this platform.  Right. So one thing that I want to  highlight just from the last discussion here is 14:08 AEO rather than SEO or in addition to SEO that I mean, heard it here on the founder sandbox. Not only do we have to be looking to have our SEO optimization, it's AEO optimization. Yes. So answer engine optimization. And that's coming of course, from the AI tools. You know, I think the stat is something like 70, 71 % of searchers, anyone searching. 14:37 They're now using the AI engines instead of, or sometimes in addition to regular search. But it's the reason why Google is losing traffic share, right? Because people are going to these AI engines sometimes exclusively for certain things. And so this has had an impact on marketing in a couple of ways. One is we need to now optimize our content for answer engines, which it's not that much different from SEO. We still have to adopt the same good. 15:06 SEO practices, you keywords, relevance, backlinks, things like that. But now we call it LL  or large language model optimization in 2025. uh In order to be able to rank in those answer engines, we need to also consider  brand strength and authority, oh citations, quality of content, sentiment.  You know, we really 15:35 PR  from  authoritative sources is really going to become  more important. And so we do a lot of testing ourselves  in terms of how Chief Outsiders ranks in these engines. I was going to ask you, have you done that?  Yes. And that's how we know that it's not just the SEO good practices that's helping to rank in answer engines. um 16:02 It's also these other things, brand strength and authority. The content needs to answer questions. these engines are understanding when content is authoritatively answering a question. And there's so many factors involved in figuring that out. There are a number of tools we use to see how we're ranking. There are a number of tools we use to figure out how we're 16:33 uh how we're able to, uh I guess, for lack of better words, out the competition, right? And score, right? In our content. And we use this knowledge of how it's working for us  to help our clients as well. And we've been doing this from the beginning because we were very aware of all the changes. um So you have your own growth gears operating system. 17:00 It's a remote working AI enabled platform, right? That also enables remote and hybrid teams  that come together.  Speak to me a little bit about that. GrowthGear's operating system is effectively your LM?  Yeah, that's the, well, that's the AI platform that we developed is called the GrowthGear's operating system. And so not only does it leverage  the best content, the best tools, but because of the way that we're designing it and it's really to support us, right? And how we work. 17:29 we are really enabling fractional resources  and remote and hybrid teams to work together effectively on  the projects,  the marketing, the growth plans that companies need to scale.  this is kind of the way, I mean, if we believe that fractional resources are  of economic benefit to both companies because they don't have to hire 17:56 A lot, you know, heavy talent, right for long term. They can hire just what they need when they need it.  And also as they evolve and grow, they might need different resources, right? So they can they can cycle through  the skill sets they need, but but also because there's economic value because workers, if they want to be more flexible, if they want to leverage a specific skill set and not necessarily be tied to one company gives them  the freedom and flexibility to. So I think for for both reasons, there's there's a lot of. uh 18:26 momentum toward this style of working. the platform that we have, you know,  it  can enable these operational fractional resources, not only marketing, but any part of the organization in the future.  Let's go. Let's take that idea or what you're observing in the market and actual client work a little bit further. So how would a potential client 18:54 engage with chief outsiders. They're at, you know, 3 million AR, they have not yet hired a marketing full time, right? How, what would would walk us through a typical, for lack of another word, engagement, or how do they engage with chief outsiders? And particularly, the second part of that is, if you're talking about 19:21 Flash teams, I think is the term that you and I discussed, right? Yeah, it's actually the title of a book being launched by a professor from Stanford,  Melissa Valentine. She's coined this phrase flash teams, which essentially  is what cheap outsiders does, right? We  pull together the resources that a company needs at that moment in time in order to solve their growth problems.  we're essentially a flash team enabled by 19:51 the growth gears operating system. Cool. So I'm not I'm the CEO. I've got to hit some revenue milestones. I've interviewed some candidates. I'm not yet sold for you know, bringing in full time, full time chief marketing officer. Jen gives me a call. How do I how do you how do I engage with you? Yeah, well, the first thing I want to understand is, is what what keeps you up at night? 20:21 Right? What, what are some of your growth challenges that, you're struggling with? Because the first thing I want to do is really understand, you know, what resources do you need at this moment in time in order to get you from A to B?  so oftentimes  we'll look at this and say, is this, is this going to be solved by a marketing led team or sales led team? Sometimes that's the first  thing that we're thinking about. And then how much do we know already about the situation in terms of. 20:49 customers, competitors, market insights, customer buying journey, channels that are working and not working. We're wanna know all of that so that we can figure out the most efficient way to approach solving those growth challenges and what work streams are needed. So we'll bring in a fractional executive that's a good fit for that company and then orchestrate the resources that are required to get to the next step. And then when that engagement  is through, 21:18 we'll figure out what the next level is. Maybe the next level is bringing in full-time permanent resources to help execute and to help scale where we paid ourselves out of the picture. Or maybe it's just dialing back to more of an advisory role and then bringing in fractional resources from different places in order to be able to test and scale and see what's going to work, what's going to land  before we orchestrate on a more. 21:48 So we're very flexible with what a company needs at any point in time. And no two companies are alike. You when you're a $3 million company, you might have talent and skills and gaps that are different from the last client that we had. And we know that. We can recognize those situations just because we've had so much experience working with so many different companies. We can very quickly figure out what's needed for the next step and just give a company exactly what it needs. 22:16 to it. You do tap into your, your network of your 125  professionals with them, know, goodness,  the years of experience that you all have obtained while at fortune 1000 companies. Amazing. Oftentimes, I've seen you  with as keynote speaker, you do give conference speak and you speak at conferences. What one of the most recent 22:42 conferences.  I'm not uncertain where it was, but you the topic you spoke to, Jen, was winning website traffic in the age of AI, what CEOs need to know? Can you without sending us to  you know, that I don't know whether it's on online, we can put that in the show notes. But what's the top, you know, line messages from that conference where you spoke about winning website traffic? Yeah. 23:10 Well, I did it with a couple of my colleagues who are very experienced in digital transformation and now how to win traffic with the answer engines. And  so we talked about some of the uh tactics that we're finding work nowadays and how that's going to change how companies need to think about orchestrating their marketing mix. So Mike. 23:36 Colin Angela gave an example of a very specific example of an article that had been written for SEO that now needs to be written for AEO just so that people  could see the difference. But I think the main message that we were trying to send uh to companies is uh marketing is not static. Just because you've figured out your marketing mix doesn't mean it's going to work two years down the line. It's constantly evolving. And so you need leadership. 24:04 who can be thinking about how are customer behaviors changing? How do I reach them differently?  And the fact that  71 % of searchers are going to answer engines, that's a huge shift and marketers need to be ready to  address that. So  if you're a smaller company and you just don't have the resources to keep retraining your staff. 24:29 every year or so  and you need that expertise in the know how do I compete now today? How do I set myself up for success? That's where we as Fractional Resources can come in and help you be that learning organization, that resilient organization that's going to survive through the next sea of change. 24:51 That is  fascinating. Yeah, it's it's a living beast, right? marketing and it's moving so rapidly, it would be hard. I'm to actually have the inside resources, the talent inside unless they're constantly being retooled. So it is  an opportunity to use fractional resources, depth of expertise that you have.  Yeah.  And that's one thing that I value about the chief outsiders culture is the fact that I think what's made us 25:21 so resilient is the fact that we're really a learning and sharing organization. We've recognized that change happens rapidly. To be resilient, we need to change and constantly be learning and retooling ourselves. And that is something  we highly value.  But to be able to do that quickly,  no one person can do all this on their own. It's nearly impossible and very overwhelming. You can't do it in a silo. So we have a culture of sharing where 25:50 If we learn something new, um we'll share with the rest of the organization. So that, that, uh, that webinar that we did was just as much for us and our executives as it was for the clients that we, that we serve in this culture of sharing really creates resiliency in the sense that  if, a company brings in one of our fractional executives and let's say they encounter a market challenge or a sales challenge that that particular 26:19 executive hasn't seen before, they can turn to the other 125 marketers and say, hey, let's get together. Let's put our best brains on this business and determine what things we might be able to try or what things we should put in place in order to benefit this organization. And I think there's no individual fractional out there that has access to that much talent and expertise. 26:49 on a moment's notice as we do. And that's part of what's going to create the resiliency that we need as an organization  to survive in the next decade, because everything is just going to start to move faster and companies are going to just need that much more speed. So, but we also believe that's a value that we can bring in addition to being interim  and not being full-time and bringing in the expertise they need to write at that moment.  We can also draw on the collective expertise of the tribe. So the brain trust. 27:19 Well, that's a good term. love that. Right. Brain trust. I love that brain trust. One  technical question of the 125  professionals within chief outsiders and interim roles. Is it solely in the marketing area or do you also offer maybe in the sales?  there other interim roles?  That's a really good question. So we do focus on marketing and sales primarily, but sometimes we're actually brought in as fractional COOs. 27:49 as well or division heads. And it's because of our broad leadership expertise. And some of our executives have been  CEOs  of their own companies. They founded companies, they've sold companies. So they do have that broader business perspective, but primarily it's marketing and sales. Excellent. We're going to switch gears, to  the standby. No pun intended. 28:17 That's right. That's  here in the founder sandbox. I'm passionate about building resilience, scalable and purpose-driven companies. And I like to ask my guests briefly, what is the meaning of resilience? What does that mean to you? Or does he chief outsiders? It's a fascinating part of the podcast for me become that you have very different definitions. And that's the beauty of asking this. Yeah.  Well, I think that resilience, at least for for me, for us, a chief outsiders means 28:46 being able to survive and move forward and grow in the face of massive change.  Right. It's not, it's not bending to the will of the market. It's,  it's, it's basically saying, you know what? We know how we can add value at this moment in time. And we have the tools to address this change and add value. that, you know, it is one of the reasons why we constantly are thinking about 29:15 how do we bring more  to the table for our clients? So in addition to the growth years operating system that we created, we also have an ecosystem called team outsiders of fractional marketing execution resources that we can draw on at any point in time and create our own flash teams for our clients. So let's say we've gone through the strategy and we've determined that we really need an e-commerce expert 29:45 that can optimize Amazon or we really need somebody who can take charge of developing the content that's going to  address not only SEO and or but also AEO and we'll draw from our pool of team outsiders resources and we'll put together that fractional team for the client at a moment's notice. So we believe that that is going to make us a lot more agile. 30:13 for our clients because sometimes they just need to get started,  but they don't have time to go higher or they don't have time to go evaluate a new agency. We can bring somebody in. We can, we can set the stage. We can get things going and then let them have the time to decide really who they want on a longer term basis. So, you know, agile teams, flash teams, it comes from our ability to be able to,  draw on this network  of. 30:42 team outsiders and to be resilient.  How about purpose? What's purpose mean to you?  Purpose. You know, I think that when I look back on my career and also what I'm doing here at Chief Outsiders, I get the most satisfaction from seeing smaller companies grow from helping founders make their dreams come true. You know, there are so many great companies out there. 31:12 that just need a shot at the big time, right? And we can do that because we've seen it. We know how to get a company from one to a hundred. We've seen it. We know what a company at one or a company at zero, what they're faced with from the standpoint of  challenges, time, resources, focus, right? And so we can adjust what we do in order to adapt to that environment. But we know what an organization is going to need 31:41 to be competitive and to need to grow at 30, 50, 100. And we can keep our sights on what that needs to be and advise the companies we're working with on how they're gonna get there. So yes, we're implementing this today, but it's gonna look like this tomorrow, but we're not ready for that yet. We're just gonna do this here today because you don't have the time or the bandwidth or the money to do that many things. But this is, we've done the analysis, we've done the research, we've done the testing. 32:11 This is what you need to scale for right now. So, you know, being able to do that and then see  these companies grow from 10 to 30 to 50 million, it's a thrill. it  is very, very rewarding. So I think that, you know, I found my purpose and this is the, in speaking with my colleagues, they're all, we're all here for the same reason. So we really do have that shared. 32:39 purpose and we really enjoy what we do. Fantastic last one and then we'll move to how to contact you scalable growth. I'm certain you're going to talk about those the growth gears, but what's scalable right? What's that mean to you?  Scalable growth to me means we figured out what works and we can replicate it cost efficiently and cost effectively. So that is 33:07 our focus when we're working within the growth gears methodology, we're looking for the way to scale most cost-efficiently effectively. I know that one of the things that you are really big on with your  companies, the companies you invest in is governance. Yes. You're really big on governance.  And when I think about governance, I think about responsibility and accountability. And what that means to me as a marketer, 33:35 And  as a revenue leader is making sure that the spend that we commit to in marketing and sales is going to drive revenue and growth cost effectively.  so by making sure that we've done the analysis, that we figured out what's going to work, that we've tested before we scale is that responsible governance approach, right? To marketing and so 34:05 You know, I think that there are some companies that are in situations where they have to scale no matter what. They just throw money at it, you know, scale no matter what. And there are situations where that needs to happen. But we find with the companies that we work with that the more responsible, prudent, accountable, you know, organic growth is what the founders are looking for. And we know how to do that. 34:35 Replicable, right? Replicable, yes.  Amazing.  So Jen, um last question before  we listen to how to contact you. you have fun today in the Founder's Sandbox? Oh, it's always a pleasure to talk with you, Brenda. I really enjoy our conversations. We're of like minds. That's true. That's true. Avid readers and bringing the best to our clients. So thank you. How can my listeners 35:04 find you  and best reach chief outsiders. Yes. So they can find me on Jenna,  but they can also find me on the chief outsiders website on the leadership tab. And from the chief outsiders website, you can also learn about all of the things that we do. can meet all of the 125 executives that we have. You can learn more about growth gears, OS and team outsiders. Excellent.  And 35:32 In the show notes, will provide the assessment so that you listeners that are actually considering, you know, what do I need to do at this last quarter of the year, right? To plan my marketing resources, just download the assessment. It's a very interesting tool. So thank you. Well, to my listeners, if you enjoyed this episode with Jen Appie of 35:56 chief outsiders. I'd encourage you to subscribe to this monthly podcast where we have founders, business owners, corporate board directors and professional service providers that are really building scalable, purpose driven and resilient companies with great corporate governance. Signing off for this month. Thank you for joining us here on the Founder's Sandbox.  

B2B Marketing: Tomorrow's Best Practices... Today
Marketing's New Era: AI, Data & The Skill Gap

B2B Marketing: Tomorrow's Best Practices... Today

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 24, 2025 35:35


In this episode of Tomorrow's Best Practices, host Clark Newby sits down with Doug Bell, Partner and CMO at Chief Outsiders and co-host of Cannonball GTM. Doug, a seasoned CMO with extensive experience in SaaS go-to-market strategies, shares his insights on navigating the current landscape of marketing. Discover how macroeconomic shifts, the rise of AI tools, and a focus on "existential data points" are reshaping outbound and inbound marketing motions. Doug reveals how to leverage publicly available data, AI, and "vibe coding" to create highly targeted, permissionless value propositions that cut through the noise. Learn why traditional ABM is evolving, how SEO is transitioning to Geo (Generative Engine Optimization), and the critical role social media now plays in capturing buyer attention. -----CONNECT with us at:Website: https://leadtail.com/Leadtail TV: https://www.leadtailtv.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/lead...Twitter: https://twitter.com/leadtailFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/Leadtail/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leadtail/----0:00 Introduction: Doug Bell, CMO at Chief Outsiders1:24 Current Market Focus: AI, Tariffs & SaaS Marketing3:33 The Existential Data Point: Driving Business Growth4:37 Vibe Coding & Permissionless Value Propositions7:26 Beyond Traditional Marketing Messages9:31 The Marketing Skill Gap & Data Manipulation14:48 Inbound Evolution: From SEO to Geo19:36 The Rise of Generative Engine Optimization (GEO)23:56 The Accelerating Shift to AI for Business Research27:49 Career Advice for Marketers: Curiosity, Data & Playbook Shaking#b2bmarketing #b2b

Pathmonk Presents Podcast
Scaling Growth for Mid-Sized Companies | Angela Hill from Chief Outsiders

Pathmonk Presents Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2024 17:08


In this episode of Pathmonk Presents, we're joined by Angela Hill, CMO at Chief Outsiders. Angela shares insights on how fractional CMOs and CSOs help growing companies scale effectively.  She discusses Chief Outsiders' approach to solving key challenges in marketing and sales, including plateauing effectiveness, rapid scaling, brand transformation, and M&A preparation. Angela also offers valuable tips on website lead generation, emphasizing the importance of understanding customer archetypes and competition.  She shares her personal strategies for staying updated with marketing trends and her innovative use of AI tools for website analysis.  

Trade Show University
256 - Should you BUY or RENT your Trade Show Exhibit? With Chris Dunn

Trade Show University

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 14, 2024 31:13


Should you buy or rent the exhibit for your next Trade Show, Conference or Event? What's the ROI? This is a top question for big and Small Business across the US and Europe.** Want More LEADS, More SALES and More PROFITS at your next Trade Show? Book a free 15-minute strategy call here: https://tradeshowu.biz/servicesWe're going to break it down with great tips and advice from Chris Dunn, VP of Sales & Business Development with BlueHive Exhibits who has been in the industry for 30 years.We discuss:-- When does it make sense to buy compared to rent? -- When is the breakeven ROI for buying versus renting? -- What type of Exhibit program is a good candidate for renting?-- Case Studies and more!Chris's Top Tips:-- When selecting an exhibit partner, like an exhibit house or an agency, make sure that you choose someone that you trust not only for where you're at currently but also where you want to go and how you want to grow-- Be open to exploring options on both the purchase and rental side to get the best combination that works for your Exhibit program-- Create and understand a complete exhibit calendar that includes both sizes, show dates, locations and goals. Work with your partner to handle overlapping situations or an outlier space as a for instance.Special Offer from Chris and BlueHive:BlueHive is happy to offer a 30 minute no charge tradeshow program auditContact Chris Dunn:-- Email: Cdunn@bluehive.com-- Website: www.bluehive.com-- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisjdunn1/Weekly Tips, Training and More! Register for our Newsletter at www.tradeshowu.bizMentioned in this episode:Subscribe to the new Trade Show University YouTube channel!Check out the new Trade Show University YouTube channel where we feature a growing number of training videos to help businesses get More Leads, More Sales and More Profits through the power of Trade Shows! Many videos are exclusive to YouTube and not found on the podcast. Visit, Subscribe and Binge! https://www.youtube.com/@tradeshowuniversityCreate Amazing Memorable Events with Michael Green Food & Wine Experiences! MICHAEL GREEN CREATES AND HOSTS WINE AND FOOD EXPERIENCES THAT BUILD RELATIONSHIPS AND DRIVE SALES. FROM CONFERENCES TO OFFISTES, MICHAEL'S HIGH ENERGY PRESENTATIONS ARE INFORMATIVE, HIGHLY ENTERTAINING AND RESONATE FOR YEARS TO COME. Find out why CMO firm Chief Outsiders said… Michael does much more than develop events – he creates memorable experiences for his clients and their guests. His expertise spanned all elements from planning to execution. What made the events truly special and memorable were Michael's knowledge, experience, contacts, and flair. He not only made us look good, he ensured we remained relevant in the eyes of our guests throughout the evening. LOOKING FOR A WAY TO STAND OUT AT YOUR NEXT CONFERENCE OR INCREASE YOUR CONFERENCE ROI? GO TO WWW.MICHAELGREEN.COM TO LEARN MORE. Mention you heard this ad on the Trade Show University podcast!

The Revenue Marketing Report
Your CRM is Sabotaging B2B Marketing Efforts

The Revenue Marketing Report

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 13, 2024 26:40


Camela Thompson, Go-To-Market Thought Leader and B2B Insights Expert, is interviewed by Doug Bell, Fractional CMO & Partner at Chief Outsiders, in this episode of the Revenue Marketing Report. Camela shares why so many marketers struggle with reporting and it has everything to do with their CRM. For the complete guide to Campaign Setup for SFDC Admins, visit: https://calibermind.com/playbooks/a-salesforce-administrators-guide-to-campaign-setup/ Connect with Camela on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/camela-thompson/ For more great content like this, visit https://calibermind.com/thought-leadership/podcasts/

Human-centric investing Podcast
How to Leverage Client Relationships to Define Your Brand and Value

Human-centric investing Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 7, 2024 44:17 Transcription Available


When it comes to marketing, advisors seem to only know what they can't do. There are so many missed opportunities and it's time to debunk the myths and inspire FAs on what they can do. Michael Morrison, Partner and CMO at Chief Outsiders, shares easy to implement tips to building an authentic brand.

RevOps Champions
37 | The Art & Science of Marketing | Aurora Toth

RevOps Champions

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 10, 2024 54:54


Today's guest Aurora Toth, Partner & CMO at Chief Outsiders, advises marketers to align their strategy and tactics with broader business goals to drive revenue growth. Scaling quickly also requires cross-functional onboarding and training.She describes marketing as both an art and a science, with the data and measurement aspects becoming increasingly important. While many marketers find it challenging to track sales from traditional marketing efforts, they should still attempt to quantify these activities, because failing to do so could result in budget cuts. Find more at revopschampions.com

The Revenue Marketing Report
What Exactly Is Account-Based Marketing?

The Revenue Marketing Report

Play Episode Listen Later May 10, 2024 20:27


Jeff Loeb, Fractional CMO at Chief Outsiders, joins our host, Camela Thompson, in this episode of the Revenue Marketing Report. Jeff shares his definition of ABM, the variations of ABM, and why cross-functional alignment is a non-negotiable with this strategy. Jeff Loeb is a B2B SaaS and technology CMO with a strong track record helping companies become category leaders and grow internationally from startups to billion-dollar businesses.  Jeff works closely with sales, product, and customer success teams to develop and execute winning go-to-marketing strategies.   Jeff orchestrates tailored strategies ranging from highly targeted ABX programs to high-velocity “land and expand” programs that accelerate new customer acquisition, drive customer growth, and decrease customer acquisition costs (CAC).   Jeff Loeb's LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffloeb/    Jeff Loeb's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@jeffreyloeb    Chief Outsiders: https://www.chiefoutsiders.com/profile/jeff-loeb   

The Revenue Marketing Report
Who Is ABM For and What is the Right Strategy?

The Revenue Marketing Report

Play Episode Listen Later May 10, 2024 21:34


Jeff Loeb, Partner & CMO at Chief Outsiders, joins our host, Camela Thompson, in this episode of the Revenue Marketing Report. Jeff shares when an ABM strategy makes sense, when it doesn't, and how to build a winning strategy around the high-value offer.   Jeff Loeb is a B2B SaaS and technology CMO with a strong track record helping companies become category leaders and grow internationally from startups to billion-dollar businesses.  Jeff works closely with sales, product, and customer success teams to develop and execute winning go-to-marketing strategies.     Jeff orchestrates tailored strategies ranging from highly targeted ABX programs to high-velocity “land and expand” programs that accelerate new customer acquisition, drive customer growth, and decrease customer acquisition costs (CAC).   Jeff Loeb's LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffloeb/    Jeff Loeb's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@jeffreyloeb    Chief Outsiders: https://www.chiefoutsiders.com/profile/jeff-loeb    For more great content like this, visit https://calibermind.com/thought-leadership/podcasts/ 

The Revenue Marketing Report
The Data Problem(s) in B2B Marketing

The Revenue Marketing Report

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 26, 2024 15:56


Doug Bell, Fractional CMO at Chief Outsiders, joins our host, Camela Thompson, in this episode of the Revenue Marketing Report. Doug shares why marketers must pay attention to the market and why this is a watershed moment.   Doug Bell's LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dougbell1/    For more great content like this, visit https://calibermind.com/thought-leadership/podcasts/ 

The Revenue Marketing Report
The Holy Grail of B2B Marketing: ROI

The Revenue Marketing Report

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2024 12:23


Doug Bell, Fractional CMO at Chief Outsiders, joins our host, Camela Thompson, in this episode of the Revenue Marketing Report. Doug shares what every marketer must do to remain a marketer in the next decade and why attribution still matters.   Doug Bell's LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dougbell1/    For more great content like this, visit https://calibermind.com/thought-leadership/podcasts/ 

The Revenue Marketing Report
Why Your CFO Thinks of Marketing as a Cost Center

The Revenue Marketing Report

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 23, 2024 12:43


Doug Bell, Fractional CMO at Chief Outsiders, joins our host, Camela Thompson, in this episode of the Revenue Marketing Report. Doug shares why he thinks B2B marketers struggle to move away from the reputation of a cost center and how to fix it.

Counsel Cast
Key Strategies for Positioning Your Law Firm for Growth with Doug Reifschneider

Counsel Cast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 12, 2024 37:26


In this episode, I'm joined by Doug Reifschneider, a Fractional Chief Marketing Officer at Chief Outsiders, to discuss the benefits and strategies of employing fractional CMO services for law firms. Doug Reifschneider is a marketing veteran from the restaurant industry. During his four-year tenure with Chief Outsiders as a fractional Chief Marketing Officer (CMO), Doug has worked with home services, funeral services, franchised security services, B2B, and restaurants to prove that marketing skills are transferrable. Chief Outsiders is the largest Fractional CMO firm in the USA.Chief Outsiders stands as the largest fractional CMO firm in the U.S., offering over 110 CMOs and chief sales officers. Doug shares insights into the growing trend of fractional services across industries, including law firms, and emphasizes the importance of understanding customer needs, competition, and unique value propositions for effective marketing strategies.We get into 'The Growth Gears' methodology as a simplified approach to marketing strategy, focusing on insights, strategy, and execution phases to fuel business growth. Doug also highlights common marketing mistakes businesses make, such as lack of coherent strategy or 'random acts of marketing,' and suggests solutions like customer nurturing and leveraging operational systems for automated post-purchase engagement to keep law firms on the path to growth.Doug gives listeners actionable tips on: 0:00 Intro 2:18 How he starts a big marketing strategy for a client 4:59 Using your people as a point of differentiation 8:31 How to move your clients through "I need marketing" to spending time going through a strategy for growth 10:34 How to explain the mistakes your clients are making when they come to you 12:54 What kind of suggestions do you offer at the bottom part of the funnel 16:56 How do you avoid random acts of marketing and stay focused 18:16 Do you have metrics and reporting to assure people it's working 20:32 What's the typical timeframe you recommend for them to see results 23:25 Looking at clients as customers and why language matters 26:31 Book Review 31:50 One big takeaway Resources mentioned in this episode:The Growth Gears by Art SaxbyConnect with Doug here: https://twitter.com/Reiflman https://www.linkedin.com/in/doug-reifschneider/ https://www.facebook.com/Reiflman/ https://www.chiefoutsiders.com/profile/doug-reifschneider Connect with me Instagram Pinterest Facebook Twitter Karin on Twitter Karin on LinkedIn Conroy Creative Counsel on Facebook https://conroycreativecounsel.com 

Counsel Cast
Key Strategies for Positioning Your Law Firm for Growth with Doug Reifschneider

Counsel Cast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 12, 2024 39:30


In this episode, I'm joined by Doug Reifschneider, a Fractional Chief Marketing Officer at Chief Outsiders, to discuss the benefits and strategies of employing fractional CMO services for law firms.  Doug Reifschneider is a marketing veteran from the restaurant industry. During his four-year tenure with Chief Outsiders as a fractional Chief Marketing Officer (CMO), Doug has worked with home services, funeral services, franchised security services, B2B, and restaurants to prove that marketing skills are transferrable. Chief Outsiders is the largest Fractional CMO firm in the USA. Chief Outsiders stands as the largest fractional CMO firm in the U.S., offering over 110 CMOs and chief sales officers. Doug shares insights into the growing trend of fractional services across industries, including law firms, and emphasizes the importance of understanding customer needs, competition, and unique value propositions for effective marketing strategies. We get into 'The Growth Gears' methodology as a simplified approach to marketing strategy, focusing on insights, strategy, and execution phases to fuel business growth. Doug also highlights common marketing mistakes businesses make, such as lack of coherent strategy or 'random acts of marketing,' and suggests solutions like customer nurturing and leveraging operational systems for automated post-purchase engagement to keep law firms on the path to growth. Doug gives listeners actionable tips on: 0:00 Intro 2:18 How he starts a big marketing strategy for a client 4:59 Using your people as a point of differentiation 8:31 How to move your clients through "I need marketing" to spending time going through a strategy for growth 10:34 How to explain the mistakes your clients are making when they come to you 12:54 What kind of suggestions do you offer at the bottom part of the funnel 16:56 How do you avoid random acts of marketing and stay focused 18:16 Do you have metrics and reporting to assure people it's working 20:32 What's the typical timeframe you recommend for them to see results 23:25 Looking at clients as customers and why language matters 26:31 Book Review 31:50 One big takeaway Resources mentioned in this episode: The Growth Gears by Art Saxby Connect with Doug here: https://twitter.com/Reiflman https://www.linkedin.com/in/doug-reifschneider/ https://www.facebook.com/Reiflman/ https://www.chiefoutsiders.com/profile/doug-reifschneider Connect with me Instagram Pinterest Facebook Twitter Karin on Twitter Karin on LinkedIn Conroy Creative Counsel on Facebook https://conroycreativecounsel.com 

Legal Talk Network - Law News and Legal Topics
Key Strategies for Positioning Your Law Firm for Growth with Doug Reifschneider

Legal Talk Network - Law News and Legal Topics

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 12, 2024 39:30


In this episode, I'm joined by Doug Reifschneider, a Fractional Chief Marketing Officer at Chief Outsiders, to discuss the benefits and strategies of employing fractional CMO services for law firms.  Doug Reifschneider is a marketing veteran from the restaurant industry. During his four-year tenure with Chief Outsiders as a fractional Chief Marketing Officer (CMO), Doug has worked with home services, funeral services, franchised security services, B2B, and restaurants to prove that marketing skills are transferrable. Chief Outsiders is the largest Fractional CMO firm in the USA. Chief Outsiders stands as the largest fractional CMO firm in the U.S., offering over 110 CMOs and chief sales officers. Doug shares insights into the growing trend of fractional services across industries, including law firms, and emphasizes the importance of understanding customer needs, competition, and unique value propositions for effective marketing strategies. We get into 'The Growth Gears' methodology as a simplified approach to marketing strategy, focusing on insights, strategy, and execution phases to fuel business growth. Doug also highlights common marketing mistakes businesses make, such as lack of coherent strategy or 'random acts of marketing,' and suggests solutions like customer nurturing and leveraging operational systems for automated post-purchase engagement to keep law firms on the path to growth. Doug gives listeners actionable tips on: 0:00 Intro 2:18 How he starts a big marketing strategy for a client 4:59 Using your people as a point of differentiation 8:31 How to move your clients through "I need marketing" to spending time going through a strategy for growth 10:34 How to explain the mistakes your clients are making when they come to you 12:54 What kind of suggestions do you offer at the bottom part of the funnel 16:56 How do you avoid random acts of marketing and stay focused 18:16 Do you have metrics and reporting to assure people it's working 20:32 What's the typical timeframe you recommend for them to see results 23:25 Looking at clients as customers and why language matters 26:31 Book Review 31:50 One big takeaway Resources mentioned in this episode: The Growth Gears by Art Saxby Connect with Doug here: https://twitter.com/Reiflman https://www.linkedin.com/in/doug-reifschneider/ https://www.facebook.com/Reiflman/ https://www.chiefoutsiders.com/profile/doug-reifschneider Connect with me Instagram Pinterest Facebook Twitter Karin on Twitter Karin on LinkedIn Conroy Creative Counsel on Facebook https://conroycreativecounsel.com 

Adpodcast
Jason Dyer - Chief Marketing Officer - Chief Outsiders

Adpodcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2024 40:33


Jason is a seasoned marketing leader with over 25 years of experience in driving growth for B2B and B2C companies across various industries and markets. He has a proven track record of aligning sales, marketing, and product roadmaps using traditional and advanced digital marketing techniques. As a Chief Marketing Officer at Chief Outsiders, He helps small and mid-sized businesses overcome their growth roadblocks by providing them with the expertise of a top CMO without the long-term commitment. He works with existing marketing teams to identify and solve their strategic, skillset, or execution challenges and deliver measurable results. He specializes in marketing insights, strategy, and execution, as well as business development, e-commerce, SaaS, mobile app marketing, and demand generation. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dylanconroy/support

TrendsTalk
Overcoming Economic Challenges With Modern Marketing Strategies – With Chief Outsiders

TrendsTalk

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 12, 2024 18:09


Chief Outsiders Principal Pete Hayes joins us this week on TrendsTalk to discuss how accurate data can help your business overcome the economic challenges in 2024 and how implementing AI and automation can benefit your marketing strategy.

Critical Mass Radio Show
Critical Mass Business Talk Show: Ric Franzi Interviews Adriana Lynch, Area Managing Partner at Chief Outsiders (Episode 1476)

Critical Mass Radio Show

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 6, 2024 23:33


Adriana Lynch has over 25 years of experience in Strategy and Brand Management. Her global experience has demonstrated significant success in the creation and execution of award-winning strategies and plans to improve product positioning, brand recognition and revenue. In the last 10 years, Adriana has worked both on Direct-to-Consumer and Business-to-Business either solely through Digital Channels or through a Multi-Channel approach. A wiz at brand and business strategy, Adriana has held management positions with The Walt Disney Co., Häagen-Dazs, Pillsbury International, Procter & Gamble (P&G), and St. Joseph Health System. After being classically trained in Brand Management at P&G Brazil - where she managed Pampers and Always - Adriana came to the USA and got her MBA from Harvard, graduating in 1996 with Second Year Honors. Since 2020, Adriana has been the Chief Marketing Officer (CMO) for FuelRod, responsible for leading and executing the company's marketing and branding initiatives and growing the e-commerce business. Adri works with cross-functional teams and leads outsourced agencies, to drive the development and execution of marketing strategies and plans that enhance the company's market position and drive revenue growth profitably. -- Critical Mass Business Talk Show is Orange County, CA's longest-running business talk show, focused on offering value and insight to middle-market business leaders in the OC and beyond. Hosted by Ric Franzi, business partner at Renaissance Executive Forums Orange County. Learn more about Ric at www.ricfranzi.com. Catch up on past Critical Mass Business Talk Show interviews... YouTube: https://lnkd.in/gHKT2gmF LinkedIn: https://lnkd.in/g2PzRhjQ Podbean: https://lnkd.in/eWpNVRi Apple Podcasts: https://lnkd.in/gRd_863w Spotify: https://lnkd.in/gruexU6m #orangecountyca #mastermind #ceopeergroups #peergroups #peerlearning

Financial Freedom for Physicians with Dr. Christopher H. Loo, MD-PhD
#655 - Mastering Marketing Strategies with Doug Reifschneider: Unveiling the Growth Gears (Chief Outsiders)

Financial Freedom for Physicians with Dr. Christopher H. Loo, MD-PhD

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 7, 2024 18:56


Join us in this enlightening episode where we dive deep into the world of marketing with Doug Reifschneider, a seasoned marketing expert and Partner at Chief Outsiders, the largest fractional CMO firm in the USA. With over 30 years of experience, Doug brings a wealth of knowledge and insights into the evolving landscape of marketing. In our conversation, Doug demystifies the often-confusing world of marketing, breaking it down into layman's terms. He draws from his extensive background working with big franchised businesses, where he honed his skills in both "little m" and "Big M" marketing. Doug explains the critical differences between these two approaches - from the execution of local advertising and promotional tactics to the development of overarching brand strategies and propositions. This episode is crucial for anyone looking to understand why strategy is key in avoiding what Chief Outsiders terms as 'random acts of marketing'. Doug elaborates on this concept and introduces us to the Growth Gears, a framework designed to help businesses steer clear of random marketing practices and build a robust growth engine. Whether you're a budding entrepreneur, a business owner, or simply intrigued by the art and science of marketing, this podcast offers valuable lessons and actionable strategies. Doug's expertise as a fractional CMO provides a unique perspective on how to leverage marketing for business growth and sustainability. Discover more about Doug's journey and insights by visiting his profile on the Chief Outsiders website, and connect with him on LinkedIn for a deeper dive into the world of strategic marketing. Episode Focuses: "The Growth Gears": Understanding the Mechanics of Business Growth "Fractional CMOs": The Game Changers in Today's Marketing Landscape "Stop Random Acts of Marketing": Crafting a Strategy-Driven Approach To connect with Doug, visit his website: https://www.chiefoutsiders.com/ Disclaimer: Not advice. Educational purposes only. Not an endorsement for or against. Results not vetted. Views of the guests do not represent those of the host or show. Do your due diligence. Click here to join PodMatch (the "AirBNB" of Podcasting): https://www.joinpodmatch.com/drchrisloomdphd We couldn't do it without the support of our listeners. To help support the show: CashApp- https://cash.app/$drchrisloomdphd Venmo- https://account.venmo.com/u/Chris-Loo-4 Buy Me a Coffee- https://www.buymeacoffee.com/chrisJx Thank you to our sponsor, CityVest: https://bit.ly/37AOgkp Click here to schedule a 1-on-1 private coaching call: https://www.drchrisloomdphd.com/book-online Click here to purchase my books on Amazon: https://amzn.to/2PaQn4p Follow our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/chL1357 Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/drchrisloomdphd Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thereal_drchrisloo Follow us on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@thereal_drchrisloo Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@drchrisloomddphd Follow the podcast on Spotify: ⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/christopher-loo⁠ Subscribe to our Substack newsletter: https://substack.com/@drchrisloomdphd1 Subscribe to our Medium newsletter: https://medium.com/@drchrisloomdphd Subscribe to our email newsletter: ⁠https://financial-freedom-for-physicians.ck.page/b4622e816d⁠ Subscribe to our LinkedIn newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=6992935013231071233 Join our Patreon Community: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=87512799 Join our Spotify Community: ⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/christopher-loo/subscribe⁠ Thank you to our advertisers on Spotify. Financial Freedom for Physicians, Copyright 2024

The Shrimp Tank Podcast - The Best Entrepreneur Podcast In The Country
Paul Sparrow: The Chief Outsiders Approach to Marketing Leadership

The Shrimp Tank Podcast - The Best Entrepreneur Podcast In The Country

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 3, 2024 62:02


Paul Sparrow is a Managing Partner at Chief Outsiders. A former small business owner-operator and Chief Marketing Officer, he has run marketing and sales organizations at Johnson & Johnson, WebMD Transaction Services (today, Change Healthcare), and Benefitfocus.For more info, visit shrimptankpodcast.com/charleston/Check us out on Facebook: www.facebook.com/theshrimptankFollow us on Twitter: twitter.com/theshrimptank?lang=enCheck out Charleston on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/showcase/shrimp-…es---charleston/

KAJ Studio Podcast
How To Build A Consistent Marketing Strategy with Doug Reifschneider

KAJ Studio Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 29, 2023 31:13


In this episode of KAJ Masterclass LIVE, join host Khudania Ajay as he delves into the realm of building a consistent marketing strategy with guest expert Doug Reifschneider, a fractional Chief Marketing Officer from Chief Outsiders, the USA's largest fractional CMO firm. Discover the ins and outs of the evolving C-suite dynamics and why companies are increasingly opting for fractional expertise. Uncover the pitfalls of random acts of marketing and the strategic shift needed to resonate with customers.

The Revenue Marketing Report
Are B2B Marketers Bad at Data? | Revenue Marketing Report

The Revenue Marketing Report

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 29, 2023 12:20


Doug Bell, Fractional CMO at Chief Outsiders, joins our host, Camela Thompson, Go-To-Market Thought Leader, and B2B Insights Expert, in this Revenue Marketing Report podcast episode. Camela and Doug have a friendly running debate: Are marketers bad at data? Spoiler: They usually disagree but always have a thoughtful dialog. Tune in for more.   Connect with Doug on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dougbell1/   For more great content like this, visit https://calibermind.com/thought-leadership/podcasts/  

The Revenue Marketing Report
What's Next for B2B Marketers in 2024? | Revenue Marketing Report

The Revenue Marketing Report

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 29, 2023 14:06


Doug Bell, Fractional CMO at Chief Outsiders, joins our host, Camela Thompson, Go-To-Market Thought Leader, and B2B Insights Expert, in this episode of the Revenue Marketing Report podcast. Some have called 2023 a SaaSacre and others a diSaaSter. So what can marketers learn from 2023 and apply to 2024? Doug Bell shares his thoughts.   Connect with Doug on LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/in/dougbell1/   For more great content like this, visit https://calibermind.com/thought-leadership/podcasts/  

The Revenue Marketing Report
The Skills Every B2B Marketer Needs in 2024 | Revenue Marketing Report

The Revenue Marketing Report

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 29, 2023 10:49


Doug Bell, Fractional CMO at Chief Outsiders, joins our host, Camela Thompson, Go-To-Market Thought Leader, and B2B Insights Expert, in this Revenue Marketing Report podcast episode. Any new year should require some reflection, but 2023 was a real doozy in the land of SaaS, and we'd be remiss if we didn't point out that new skills are key in adapting to the new landscape. Doug Bell brought a list of skills he is focusing on for 2024, and Camela threw in a few more for good measure.   Connect with Doug on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dougbell1/   For more great content like this, visit https://calibermind.com/thought-leadership/podcasts/  

Second in Command: The Chief Behind the Chief
Ep. 340 – COO, Chief Outsiders, Clay Spitz

Second in Command: The Chief Behind the Chief

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 19, 2023


In today's episode of the Second in Command podcast, Cameron Herold is joined by Clay Spitz, COO Alliance member and Chief Operating Officer of Chief Outsiders, a company offering fractional Chief Marketing Officer services. Clay and Cameron discuss the unique... The post Ep. 340 – COO, Chief Outsiders, Clay Spitz appeared first on COO Alliance.

Second in Command: The Chief Behind the Chief
Ep. 340 - COO, Chief Outsiders, Clay Spitz

Second in Command: The Chief Behind the Chief

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 19, 2023 44:26


In today's episode of the Second in Command podcast, Cameron Herold is joined by Clay Spitz, COO Alliance member and Chief Operating Officer of Chief Outsiders, a company offering fractional Chief Marketing Officer services. Clay and Cameron discuss the unique value of understanding the lifetime value of a customer and aligning marketing strategies accordingly. They look at the importance of customizing marketing approaches for different customer segments and avoiding "random acts of marketing." Chief Outsiders, with its team of over 100 seasoned CMOs, specializes in propelling growth for mid-sized companies by providing experienced leadership in marketing and sales.They also touch on the cultural aspects of Chief Outsiders and how they attract top marketing and sales executives. Clay highlights the importance of building a company culture that facilitates learning and collaboration, fostering an environment where executives can do the best work of their careers. He shares insights into managing creative talent effectively, stressing the need for aligning creative ideas with the company's strategic goals. Clay and Cameron explore the intricacies of managing offshore talent and ensuring cultural alignment for successful outcomes.They also discuss evolving roles in the corporate world, including the emergence of Chief Revenue Officers, and the importance of understanding customer needs and market dynamics, especially post-COVID. Clay reflects on his career journey, advising young professionals to be open to opportunities and listen to mentors. He stresses that understanding one's strengths and being adaptable are key to a successful career.Enjoy!In This Episode You'll Learn:How to calculate the lifetime value of a customer and align your marketing strategies to maximize profitability.How fractional Chief Marketing Officers (CMOs) and Chief Sales Officers (CSOs) from Chief Outsiders can drive growth in mid-sized companies.The unique culture at Chief Outsiders that fosters learning, collaboration, and enables executives to deliver their best work.The challenges and strategies for managing offshore talent, ensuring cultural and strategic alignment for successful outcomes.Clay's personal journey and learn why being open to opportunities and adaptable is crucial for career success.How to determine the right amount to invest in marketing based on the desired growth rate and customer acquisition costs.And much more...Resources:Connect with Clay: Website | LinkedInConnect with Cameron: Website | LinkedInGet Cameron's latest book “Meetings Suck: Turning One of The Most Loathed Elements of Business into One of the Most Valuable”Get Cameron's online course – Invest In Your Leaders

Adpodcast
⁠Doug Reifschneider⁠ - Fractional Chief Marketing Officer - ⁠Chief Outsiders⁠

Adpodcast

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 13, 2023 57:27


Doug Reifschneider - Fractional Chief Marketing Officer - Chief Outsiders Reifschneider grew up in the foodservice industry. He is a marketing veteran with 25+ years of progressive field, agency, and corporate marketing experience. Doug started in the restaurant business in the field by teaching franchisees and company operators how to conduct local restaurant marketing (LRM). He also formed advertising co-ops. Doug mastered the use of traditional media such as TV, radio, print, and Out of Home (OOH). In later years, Reifschneider focused on digital advertising options. As noted earlier, he combined traditional and digital advertising to grow sales. Doug progressed into leadership roles at Hardees and Fazoli's. He learned how to grow sales in a competitive marketplace while mentoring his team. As a result, he learned how to combine media spend and LRM. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dylanconroy/support

10 Lessons Learned
Per Ohstrom - What makes us different makes us better

10 Lessons Learned

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 12, 2023 45:21 Transcription Available


                                                                    Join us as we delve into an enriching conversation hosted by Siebe Van Der Zee with global marketing expert Per Ohstrom, as he shares his top 10 life lessons. Per shares his '10 lessons in life and career' which include philosophical insights, experience in management, the importance of diversity, the value of using technology smartly, importance of occasional silence, the benefits of taking up responsibility in public roles, and more. Listen to gain remarkable insight into the invaluable lessons learned by this successful Fractional Chief Marketing Officer. About Per Ohstrom Per Ohstrom is a Marketing and Strategy Consultant with Chief Outsiders, working with small and mid-market private companies. After undergrad studies in Sweden and a career in the Army reserve, he came to the US for MBA studies. Per is an experienced marketing leader and corporate executive working with private and Private Equity-owned industrial and B2B service companies. As a fractional CMO he builds and executes strategies for profitable growth. Get his free eBook "Selecting a Strategy for Market Leadership" here: https://tinyurl.com/2knbbs6m Per has 30 years of international commercial marketing and P&L leadership in $1-2 bn blue-chip and private industrial companies. He supports CEOs making their companies more market-focused and builds cross-functional teams that consistently perform. With a track record in manufacturing, construction equipment, equipment rental, MRO distribution, supply chain, specialty chemicals and other industries, he brings advanced marketing experience. Per is a creative problem solver and respectful collaborator. He likes to tackle complex business issues and drives for practical results -he learned this as Commanding Officer of an Arctic infantry unit. Episode Notes Lesson 1: “Cast down your bucket where you are. Take what you have and do the best with it.” 05:14 Lesson 2: Manage by objectives, delegate, and decentralize. 08:24 Lesson 3: Officers eat last -turn the org chart upside down and be a servant leader. 11:12 Lesson 4: Shut up and listen, really listen. 13:39 Lesson 5: Be positive, deal swiftly with issues. 16:03 Lesson 6: What makes us different makes us better. 20:15 Lesson 7: Work smart, use technology. 24:36 Lesson 8: Get elected to something. 28:20 Lesson 9: Into the woods -the power of peace, quiet and man's best friend. 33:23 Lesson 10: “If you're going through hell, keep going”. 37:35

Performance Delivered
Jeff Loeb | Using ABM as a Growth Strategy

Performance Delivered

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 8, 2023 36:47


These days, it's hard to cut through the content marketing noise…That's where ABM comes in.But what's the best way for brands to get started using ABM?In this episode, Jeff Loeb, partner and CMO at Chief Outsiders, is here to share his expertise on ABM.He'll cover: Why companies should use ABM as part of their growth strategy The components required for an ABM initiative Finding alignment between sales and marketing The best way to scope an ABM pilot And more

Staffing & Recruiter Training Podcast
TRP 172: Sales Readiness with Aaron Gutowski

Staffing & Recruiter Training Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 2, 2023 25:07


Aaron Gutowski is the Chief Sales Officer for Chief Outsiders, a consulting company that offers fractional part time chief sales officers and chief marketing officers. A senior technology, market research, and SaaS sales management leader, Aaron brings vertical market expertise in consumer, energy, financial, legal, medical devices, pharma, and technology. A senior executive with expertise in direct sales, marketing, and operations, he recruits and retains top sales professionals, changes sales culture, and achieves operational excellence via process-driven approaches. Focused on training top-performing teams, Aaron employs activity-based measurement to boost pipeline productivity. A strategic planning veteran, he also excels at account management, campaign management, and marketing strategy. ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ Links: Here is the link to the Sales Readiness Assessment. https://surveys.chiefoutsiders.com/executive-sales-assessment?tm_campaign=Sales%20Assessment%20Campaign&utm_content=Sales%20Assessment&utm_medium=email&utm_source=email&utm_term=%7B%7B%20contact.hubspot_owner_id.email%20%7D%7D Connect with Aaron on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aarongutowski/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jagged with Jasravee : Cutting-Edge Marketing Conversations with Thought Leaders
Ep 111 : Atul Minocha on Is Your Marketing Real or Fake? Sorting Fact from Fiction for Growth

Jagged with Jasravee : Cutting-Edge Marketing Conversations with Thought Leaders

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 29, 2023 55:35


How have your engineering skills helped you in marketing? How is marketing like a bridge? What is the difference between marketing and sales? Can you explain the distinction using the headlight analogy? What is the difference between "Big M" and "Small m" marketing? How can the obsession with measurable ROI limit marketing potential? Why is pricing so important in marketing? What measures can business schools take to address this? What are "random acts of marketing"? And what key principles can marketers immediately apply to make them more effective? Atul answers the above questions and many more, as he seperate facts from fiction and talks about Marketing 101. Atul Minocha is a Partner and CMO at Chief Outsiders, author, investor, and speaker. He is the author of 'Lies, Damned Lies, and Marketing: Separate Fact from Fiction and Drive Growth'. Atul has a degree in mechanical engineering from the Indian Institute of Technology Delhi and an MBA from Yale University. Connect on Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/atulminocha/ Visit his Company Page https://www.chiefoutsiders.com/profile/atul-minocha His Book on Amazon https://www.amazon.in/Lies-Damned-Marketing-Separate-Fiction-ebook/dp/B097NRJ4HP Jagged with Jasravee is facilitated by Jasravee Kaur Chandra. She is Senior Vice President of Strategic Planning at Havas Creative. Jasravee has over 20 years experience as a Strategic Brand Builder, Communications Leader and Entrepreneur. Please visit Jasravee at https://jasravee.com/ Connect with Jasravee on Linkedin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasravee/ Email Jasravee at jasravee@gmail.com Index 00:00 Preview & Introduction to Atul 03:30 Journey from Engineer to Marketeer 09:30 Solving Problems, Not Just Selling Products 11:30 Marketing is Like a Bridge 15:01 Customer Beliefs - Toyota Example -The Seatbelt as a Death Trap 18:21 Headlight Analogy: Difference Between Sales and Marketing 22:25 Big M vs. Small m Marketing: What's the Difference? 26:25 The Misuse of ROI: How Apple iPhone Shows Us What Not to Do 36:36 Pricing, One of the 4 Ps for Marketers 40:36 Random Acts of Marketing 44:17 How to Avoid Random Acts of Marketing 47:31 Rapid Fire - Personally Speaking with Atul Minocha 51:40 Connecting with Atul Minocha Follow Jagged with Jasravee on Social Media Campsite One Link : https://campsite.bio/jaggedwithjasravee Facebook Page : https://www.facebook.com/jaggedwithjasravee Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/jagggedwith Podcast Page : https://anchor.fm/jagged-with-jasravee Youtube Page : https://www.youtube.com/c/jaggedwithjasravee Website : https://jasravee.com/

DigiMarCon Podcast
Overcoming Strategic Challenges in Content Marketing - Jennifer Apy, Chief Outsiders

DigiMarCon Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 26, 2023 34:38


 | How do you develop a content marketing strategy when you have seemingly insurmountable challenges to overcome? Attend this session to learn how to develop a cost-effective integrated content marketing plan that scales. Get the framework you need with “scrappy” strategies to reap rewards from the toughest challenges like low volume keyword, narrow target audience, and limited budget. And learn to pinpoint high intention moments in the customer journey to improve conversion rates and capture competitors' market share, so you can get the return you demand from content marketing investment.   Takeaways:  Attend this session to learn how to…-- Analyze core content marketing strategy needs-- Develop a template to articulate content marketing objectives and goals-- Build a KPI Dashboard to measure results and drive optimization goals Target Audience: Growth marketers, Brand Managers, Marketing Directors, Storytelling-driven Content Marketers who hate SEO.

Mitchell Levy Presents AHA Moments
Neil Anderson, Belinda Ellsworth & Susan Trivers on Thought Leader Life Credibility Specials (MLP 207)

Mitchell Levy Presents AHA Moments

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 21, 2023 20:15


Get to know these successful thought leaders and find out how they present themselves and their crafts as experts in their fields. Neil Anderson is a partner and CMO of Chief Outsiders, and Fractional Chief Marketing Officer for Accelerating Growth. He has a twenty-five-year track record of general business management and marketing success. He has angel-funded early-stage startups to mid-sized privately held companies to large publicly traded corporations. Neil is recognized for building and leading teams that consistently deliver remarkable and measurable business success. If you're a CEO and you've got dreams for growth and have not been able to hit those dreams yet, reach out to Neil by going to https://www.linkedin.com/in/neilandersonlinkedin/ or https://www.chiefoutsiders.com/.  Belinda Ellsworth is a speaker, trainer, best-selling author, and podcast host. Known as the “Left-Brain Entrepreneur”, she has been dubbed as a “trailblazer in the industry of coaching and speaking.” She hosts the “Work from Your Happy Place” podcast where she features entrepreneurs who are living their best life. She's also a number one best-selling author. She wrote and published the book “Direct Selling for Dummies.” If you've got flatline sales, Belinda Ellsworth can help resuscitate your business. Connect with her via her site, https://www.stepintosuccess.com/, or through her LinkedIn account at https://www.linkedin.com/in/belindaellsworth/. Susan Trivers is a pricing consultant and is the president of Trivers Consulting Group, which she founded in 1999. She is driven by her mission to work with clients to increase company profits and their wealth. If your pain point is hourly billing, it is best to reach out to Susan Trivers by logging on to https://susantrivers.com/ or by visiting her LinkedIn profile at https://www.linkedin.com/in/susantrivers/.  Global Credibility Expert, Mitchell Levy is a TEDx speaker and international bestselling author of over 60 books. As The AHA Guy at AHAthat (https://ahathat.com), he helps to extract the genius from your head in a two-three hour interview so that his team can ghostwrite your book, publish it, distribute it, and make you an Amazon bestselling author in four months or less. He is an accomplished Entrepreneur who has created twenty businesses in Silicon Valley including four publishing companies that have published over 800 books. He's provided strategic consulting to over one hundred companies and has been chairman of the board of a NASDAQ-listed company. Mitchell has been happily married for thirty years and regularly spends four weeks in Europe with family and friends. Visit https://mitchelllevy.com/mitchelllevypresents/ for an archive of all the podcast episodes. Connect to Mitchell Levy on: Credibility Nation YouTube Channel: https://bit.ly/3kGA1LI Credibility Nation LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/credibilitynation/ Mitchell Levy Present AHA Moments: https://mitchelllevy.com/mitchelllevypresents/ Thought Leader Life: https://thoughtleaderlife.com Twitter: @Credtabulous Instagram: @credibilitynation Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mitchell Levy Presents AHA Moments
Stephen Denny, Karen Hayward & Dan Riley on Thought Leader Life Credibility Specials (MLP 202)

Mitchell Levy Presents AHA Moments

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 7, 2023 21:47


Get to know these successful thought leaders and find out how they present themselves and their crafts as experts in their fields. Stephen Denny is the managing director of Denny Leinberger Strategy, keynote speaker, and competitive strategy and marketing consultant. He holds multiple patents, authored Killing Giants: 10 Strategies to Topple the Goliath in Your Industry, as well as co-authored Unfiltered Marketing: 5 Rules to Win Back Trust, Credibility, and Customers in a Digitally Distracted World. He helps emerging brands define their competitive positioning, communication strategies, and implementation plans in the market. Prior to consulting, he was a 20+ year senior marketing executive having managed the people, strategy, and budgets at brand name technology companies like Sony, Onstar (for General Motors), Iomega, and Plantronics. If your brand is not number one, consider reaching out to Stephen Denny by visiting his websites https://www.stephendenny.com/ and https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephendenny/. Karen Hayward is an author, international speaker, and managing partner and CMO with Chief Outsiders. She matches mid-market CEOs and Private Equity Portfolio managers with the best-fit Chief Marketing Officers to help accelerate top-line growth. She is responsible for building and supporting a team of world-class marketers. She works with SaaS companies and technology innovators to accelerate growth and deliver breakthrough revenue demonstrating her passion for helping CEOs take their game to the next level. If you're a CEO practicing random acts of marketing, consider reaching out to Karen Hayward by visiting her websites https://chiefoutsiders.com/ and https://www.linkedin.com/in/karenhaywardcmo/. Dan Riley is a Principal Partner at Riley Design Associates, LLC. He has created brand identities and campaigns for many national and international companies. If in a Fortune 500 company and have marketing design challenges, you're going to want to reach out to Dan Riley at https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-riley-a08a76/ or https://www.rileydesign.com/.  Global Credibility Expert, Mitchell Levy is a TEDx speaker and international bestselling author of over 60 books. As The AHA Guy at AHAthat (https://ahathat.com), he helps to extract the genius from your head in a two-three hour interview so that his team can ghostwrite your book, publish it, distribute it, and make you an Amazon bestselling author in four months or less. He is an accomplished Entrepreneur who has created twenty businesses in Silicon Valley including four publishing companies that have published over 800 books. He's provided strategic consulting to over one hundred companies and has been chairman of the board of a NASDAQ-listed company. Mitchell has been happily married for thirty years and regularly spends four weeks in Europe with family and friends. Visit https://mitchelllevy.com/mitchelllevypresents/ for an archive of all the podcast episodes. Connect to Mitchell Levy on: Credibility Nation YouTube Channel: https://bit.ly/3kGA1LI Credibility Nation LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/credibilitynation/ Mitchell Levy Present AHA Moments: https://mitchelllevy.com/mitchelllevypresents/ Thought Leader Life: https://thoughtleaderlife.com Twitter: @Credtabulous Instagram: @credibilitynation Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Modern Day Marketer
How the CMO Thinks About the ROI of Your Content Program with Doug Bell at Chief Outsiders

Modern Day Marketer

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 3, 2023 31:19


Doug Bell is the CMO at Chief Outsiders and the host of the Revenue Generator Podcast. He shares his CMO perspective on the ROI of content programs. Doug insists that everything needs to tie back to the buyer journey and warns leaders again chasing the bottom of the funnel. They also discuss using AI as a tool to increase productivity, while keeping authenticity in mind.1:20 Conversation with Doug3:35 Buyer journey6:50 Value of content9:00 2 audiences13:00 AI vs authenticity17:00 Measuring success23:52 Who will succeed26:15 Sales/marketing org28:51 Advice to young marketers30:44 Outro Register for How to Answer, "What's the ROI of Our Content Marketing Program?" (Digital Event)Sign up for Modern Day Marketer (the newsletter)Follow Doug:| LinkedIn | Chief Outsiders Follow The Juice:| Website | Blog | Twitter | LinkedInFollow Brett:| Twitter | LinkedIn 

Trade Show University
194 - Demand Gen vs. Lead Gen - with Vanessa Zangardi

Trade Show University

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 9, 2023 30:48


What is the difference between Demand Generation (regarding generating leads using marketing) and Lead Generation? Why does it matter and what should you focus on?Helping us answer these questions is Vanessa Zangardi of Zangardi Studio! Vanessa is a business owner, a mom, a wife, and relentless in her pursuit of teaching and helping people understand marketing isn't scary - and that you can do it, no matter how big or small your business is.We discuss:What is Demand Gen and what is Lead Gen?Demand gen as it relates to current marketing trendsWhy is everyone talking about Content? What content should people be focusing on?How do we make creating content easier?Content as it relates to demand gen and current marketing talkEasy steps you can do to work on demand gen while creating impactful contentVanessa's Top Tips:Creating valuable content needs to be your focus. You can do this a few ways - video, blog, social media, in-person trade shows, or during your own hosted events. The easiest way to figure out what that valuable content is to talk to your customers and talk to your sales staff. After that, find an easy cadence of creation on the best platforms and STICK TO IT!Vanessa's Top Takeaways:Marketing isn't scary - but you do need to take risks. You can find creative ways to create impactful marketing campaigns and content, no matter your budget.Get in Touch with Vanessa Zangardi:Website - zangardi.comLinkedIn - Vanessa ZangardiGet the Trade Show University email newsletter for weekly tips, tools and expert advice to maximize the ROI for your next trade show or event - all for FREE!Visit tradeshowu.biz and drop your email on the home page!Subscribe at Apple Google SpotifyMentioned in this episode:Create Amazing Memorable Events with Michael Green Food & Wine Experiences! MICHAEL GREEN CREATES AND HOSTS WINE AND FOOD EXPERIENCES THAT BUILD RELATIONSHIPS AND DRIVE SALES. FROM CONFERENCES TO OFFISTES, MICHAEL'S HIGH ENERGY PRESENTATIONS ARE INFORMATIVE, HIGHLY ENTERTAINING AND RESONATE FOR YEARS TO COME. Find out why CMO firm Chief Outsiders said… Michael does much more than develop events – he creates memorable experiences for his clients and their guests. His expertise spanned all elements from planning to execution. What made the events truly special and memorable were Michael's knowledge, experience, contacts, and flair. He not only made us look good, he ensured we remained relevant in the eyes of our guests throughout the evening. LOOKING FOR A WAY TO STAND OUT AT YOUR NEXT CONFERENCE OR INCREASE YOUR CONFERENCE ROI? GO TO WWW.MICHAELGREEN.COM TO LEARN MORE. Mention you heard this ad on the Trade Show University podcast!

Healthy Brands with Howie Chan
EP. 11 Unleashing the Power of Consumer Marketing & Branding in Health Care with Carrie Lewis

Healthy Brands with Howie Chan

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 18, 2022 67:28


Carrie Lewis is a lifelong marketer in the consumer space, leading marketing for global brands like Sherwin Williams and Stanley Black and Decker. Most recently she pivoted and became a CMO at Metro Health System in Cleveland. Today, she works as a fractional CMO as part of Chief Outsiders. In our conversation a few weeks ago, we get real about what it was like to take her marketing chops into health care and her counter intuitive strategies she uses to turn around and generate $2 Bn in revenue for a struggling community hospital system.Learn more about Carrie:-        LinkedIn-        Chief OutsidersTop 3 Lessons:1.     Embed marketing and branding into the entire organization, bringing together the great divide2.     Personal stories are incredibly powerful, they bring hope to patients and can rally an organization3.     Gain trust from the executive team and get more budget for marketing by showing, not tellingGet more from Healthy Brands: Subscribe to Healthy Brand Mondays: 1 branding lesson every Monday in your inbox Download messaging toolkit and other free brand strategy guides Work with me Connect with Howie: LinkedIn Twitter Instagram TikTok YouTube

Let's Talk Sales
Marketing & Sales Partnership with Carol Eversen

Let's Talk Sales

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 14, 2022


Welcome back to Let's Talk Sales! This week's guest is Carol Eversen! Carol is a Partner and CMO at Chief Outsiders, providing experienced project-based and fractional CMOs to growing companies.   Her specialty is as a business strategist focusing on growth and productivity in B2B Saas, technology, and service providers.  She built her career in […] The post Marketing & Sales Partnership with Carol Eversen appeared first on Criteria For Success.

Trade Show University
190 - How to Secure Sponsors Successfully - with Roberta Vigilance

Trade Show University

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 12, 2022 27:41


Roberta Vigilance teaches event planners how to secure sponsors for events, and is the author of How To Secure Sponsors Successfully. Roberta needed money to hold an event, taught herself how to secure sponsors and since then has launched an event planning business teaching others how to secured local to corporate sponsors. We Discuss:Understanding event sponsorshipDifferent expectations of sponsorsEvaluating sponsorshipsMeasuring sponsorship outcomeRoberta's Top Takeaways:Understand event sponsorship so that they will be a meeting of the minds to speed up success.Write clear concise sponsorship proposal that lets sponsors quickly spot the value.Connect with Roberta Vigilance:www.eventsandsponsors.comwww.robertavigilance.com https://facebook.com/securesponsorshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/securesponsors/Mentioned in this episode:Create Amazing Memorable Events with Michael Green Food & Wine Experiences! MICHAEL GREEN CREATES AND HOSTS WINE AND FOOD EXPERIENCES THAT BUILD RELATIONSHIPS AND DRIVE SALES. FROM CONFERENCES TO OFFISTES, MICHAEL'S HIGH ENERGY PRESENTATIONS ARE INFORMATIVE, HIGHLY ENTERTAINING AND RESONATE FOR YEARS TO COME. Find out why CMO firm Chief Outsiders said… Michael does much more than develop events – he creates memorable experiences for his clients and their guests. His expertise spanned all elements from planning to execution. What made the events truly special and memorable were Michael's knowledge, experience, contacts, and flair. He not only made us look good, he ensured we remained relevant in the eyes of our guests throughout the evening. LOOKING FOR A WAY TO STAND OUT AT YOUR NEXT CONFERENCE OR INCREASE YOUR CONFERENCE ROI? GO TO WWW.MICHAELGREEN.COM TO LEARN MORE. Mention you heard this ad on the Trade Show University podcast!

Day in a Canoe Podcast
018 Karen Hayward: Leadership with Empathy

Day in a Canoe Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 30, 2022 18:50


In this episode, Nathan and Karen discuss: How the marketing landscape has become complex Why empathy is critical as a leader Finding a mentor and looking for personal growth opportunities The importance of dreaming big Key Takeaways: Marketing has evolved and companies have complex problems that need specialized solutions. Find an expert that can help you solve your specific marketing problem and take action.  Lead by example. Don't ask anyone to do anything you wouldn't do. Lean on your empathic ability. Make an effort to really understand the other person and walk in their shoes.  As a leader, you must find the balance between driving performance and displaying empathy in your team. Be consistent and communicate consequences, both negative and positive.  Find a mentor and look for opportunities to advance your career and mission.    "Dream big - and then when you thought you've dreamed as big as possible, dream bigger." —  Karen Hayward   About Karen Hayward: Karen Hayward is an author, international speaker, and a Managing Partner and CMO with Chief Outsiders, where she is responsible for building and supporting a team of world-class marketers. Located in the San Francisco Bay Area, Karen matches mid-market CEOs and Private Equity Portfolio managers with the best-fit Chief Marketing Officers to help accelerate top line growth.  Her book “Stop Random Acts of Marketing” takes the learnings from her previous experience as a VP in both Sales and Marketing and shows mid-market CEOs how to build a strategic growth plan in the digital age to deliver compelling ROI.   Check out Karen's Book: https://www.amazon.com/Stop-Random-Acts-Marketing-Deliberate/dp/1544502532    Connect with Karen Hayward:  Twitter: https://twitter.com/HaywardKG  Website: https://www.chiefoutsiders.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karenhaywardcmo/    Connect with Nathan Mersereau:  Phone: 248-645-1520 Website: www.dayinacanoe.com Email: nathan.mersereau@planningalt.com Twitter: @NathanMersereau LinkedIn: Nathan Mersereau Address: 255 S Old Woodward Avenue, Suite 310 Birmingham, MI 48009       Show notes by Podcastologist: Justine Talla   Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.    

B2B Content Show
Developing strong customer personas w/ Per Ohstrom

B2B Content Show

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 22, 2022 16:11


Per Ohstrom, Partner and fractional CMO at Chief Outsiders, talks with Jeremy about developing customer personas.Highlights:Why customer personas are importantStrategies for developing accurate customer personasAssembling a team to develop customer personasLearn more about Chief OutsidersConnect with Per on LinkedInMemorable Quotes:"I think marketing segmentation is a hugely important activity for companies to do. They can't be everything to everyone.""The persona is really good and really helpful for preparing for the call. But when you do the actual call, you know, presentation or phone call with the client, you have to leave everything behind and really listen to what they're saying.""It is possible to go too much down a rabbit hole if you make a persona too detailed."The B2B Content Show is produced by Connversa, a podcast production agency helping B2B brands connecting with prospects, generates TONS of content, and grow revenue. Learn more at connversa.com

Revenue Rehab
Considering Being a Fractional CMO? Tips to Get You Started

Revenue Rehab

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 7, 2022 31:56


In this episode of Revenue Rehab, Brandi Starr is joined by Angus Robertson. Angus is a fractional  CMO  with  Chief Outsiders and co-chair  of  the  Comp  TIA  business applications and advisory council. Chief Outsiders consists of more than 100 fractional CMOs, who help companies grow through best-in class marketing strategy and execution. Previously, Angus was CRO at a business continuity firm Axcient where he managed sales, marketing and partner success.  Angus was also EVP  of  Marketing  at  Conversant  acquired  by OneTrust, CMO at insightsoftware and VP of Product Marketing at public telecoms company Spirent. On the couch, Angus and Brandi will discuss the pros and cons of the Fractional CMO role, as well as delving into some deciding factors when making the move. Links: Get in touch with Angus Robertson on LinkedIn Learn more about Chief Outsiders Subscribe, listen, and rate/review Revenue Rehab Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts , Amazon Music, or iHeart Radio and find more episodes on our website RevenueRehab.live

Trade Show University
168 - Power of Community & Human Connection - with Josh Hotsenpiller

Trade Show University

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 29, 2022 20:42


If the last couple of years has told us anything, it's that we need Human Connection. We crave being around other people in community. So how do we effectively do that without going back to our old ways of doing things? To shed light and bring value to this discussion is Josh Hotsenpiller, the CEO of JUNO, an all-in-one digital events and engagement platform. As a successful entrepreneur with a decade of experience in building community software platforms, he has worked with a variety of organizations that help digital and live events to reach a new level of connection. We Discuss: Why we need to build Community throughout our events - before and after Why is human connection important? Can it be done online/virtually? If so, how? How and why to scale? And so much more! Josh's Top Tips: Invest in your soft/human skills. They are needed now more than ever! Be intentional with yourself and others Connect with Josh & Learn More about Juno: Web - https://junolive.com/ (https://junolive.com/) Josh's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshhotsenpiller/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshhotsenpiller/) Juno's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/junolive (https://www.linkedin.com/company/junolive) Mentioned in this episode: Create Amazing Memorable Events with Michael Green Food & Wine Experiences! MICHAEL GREEN CREATES AND HOSTS WINE AND FOOD EXPERIENCES THAT BUILD RELATIONSHIPS AND DRIVE SALES. FROM CONFERENCES TO OFFISTES, MICHAEL'S HIGH ENERGY PRESENTATIONS ARE INFORMATIVE, HIGHLY ENTERTAINING AND RESONATE FOR YEARS TO COME. Find out why CMO firm Chief Outsiders said… Michael does much more than develop events – he creates memorable experiences for his clients and their guests. His expertise spanned all elements from planning to execution. What made the events truly special and memorable were Michael's knowledge, experience, contacts, and flair. He not only made us look good, he ensured we remained relevant in the eyes of our guests throughout the evening. LOOKING FOR A WAY TO STAND OUT AT YOUR NEXT CONFERENCE OR INCREASE YOUR CONFERENCE ROI? GO TO WWW.MICHAELGREEN.COM TO LEARN MORE. Mention you heard this ad on the Trade Show University podcast!

Specified: Building Materials Innovation Podcast
S2. Ep. 27: Developing A Marketing Strategy (With Bob Olsen)

Specified: Building Materials Innovation Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 15, 2022 22:30


Bob Olsen is the Chief Marketing Officer at Chief Outsiders. In this episode of Specified Growth Podcast, Bob talks about his early interest in science and innovation and how he got into marketing. He also discusses why it's important for every marketer to start in sales, integrating digital with traditional marketing in the B2B space, having a marketing strategy in your company, and more. Don't miss this episode of Specified Growth Podcast! Please reach out if you have any feedback or questions. Enjoy!    Twitter: @TatsuyaNakagawa Instagram: @tats_talks LinkedIn: Tatsuya Nakagawa  YouTube: Tats Talks www.tatstalk.com www.castagra.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Test. Learn. Grow.
Why to Consider a Fractional CMO

Test. Learn. Grow.

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 8, 2022 43:35


Fractional CMOs can provide focused support on major priorities in your business. Pairing a resource like this with an effective marketing partner like Level Agency can lead to significant success. Listen is as Slade Kobran from Chief Outsiders and Patrick Patterson, President of Level Agency, discuss this topic and more.For more information on this podcast, visit us online. Have feedback on the show? We'd love to hear from you! Email us at podcast@level.agency.

Club Capital Leadership Podcast
Episode 106: Lies, Damned Lies, and Marketing with Atul Minocha

Club Capital Leadership Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 2, 2022 49:38


In this episode, Bradley interviews Atul Minocha. He is a partner at Chief Outsiders, a national marketing consulting firm that helps CEOs accelerate growth. His recent book, Lies, Damned Lies, and Marketing was named Forbes' #1 book to read for entrepreneurial success and is an Amazon best-seller. He's sharing his top advice for CEOs and owners! With experience in startups and Fortune 500 companies like Honeywell, Kodak, and Toyota, Atul works in a wide range of industries, from automotive and healthcare to industrial goods, technology and SaaS.  Atul loves to work on business growth problems that have been stewing for some time.

B2B Growth
Strong Brand Drives Demand with Lori Cohen

B2B Growth

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 26, 2022 26:21 Transcription Available


In this episode, Benji talks to Lori Cohen, Fractional CMO with Chief Outsiders.  If you run marketing at a B2B company and you prioritize demand generation over building a brand, Lori says - "you'll eventually hit a wall". Today we discuss how a strong brand drives demand.

Humanly Possible
It's All Life with Stuart Foster @hstuartfoster

Humanly Possible

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 26, 2022 32:03


An innovative leader with world-class digital and experiential capabilities, Stuart Foster transforms global brands and businesses to achieve revenue, profit, and market share growth. Impacted by an early networking lesson from his father and the examples set by good bosses, Stuart has taken his leadership roles very seriously over the years and learned to appreciate the little differences between locales and cultures.In This Episode:A modest gift from his grandmother that sparked a new interestThe story behind how Stuart got into the wine businessHow a networking lesson from his father helped Stuart land his first job as a college seniorWorking his way up through the marketing ranks with brands like L'Oreal and HennessyThe impact of having good leaders and bosses as role modelsA pivotal moment that shifted Stuart's mindset on how he thinks about leadershipAppreciating the little differences between locales and culturesThe marketing/branding business project Stuart is most proud ofThe next phase: working with Chief Outsiders as a Fractional CMO

Trade Show University
Ep 146 - Planning & Maxing Out Your Event ROI with Coaching - with Rob Wentz

Trade Show University

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 25, 2022 20:46


Why is planning so important to the success of our businesses, trade shows and events? And can a Coach be the secret weapon to helping Max out your ROI? To help bring clarity to these important questions is Rob Wentz - a Small Business Strategist & Certified Business Coach who offers professional coaching and mentoring services to business owners and executives inside small-to-medium- sized, privately-held companies with his company 1Direction Strategy. We Discuss: Why is it so important to have a written plan, isn't it ok if we have it in our head? What benefits are there of working with a coach? Creating Goals and Metrics Decision Making based on Data Rob's Top takeaways: By having a written plan you are more likely to achieve success. Running a successful business can be very tough, but it doesn't have to be. We make it harder on ourselves because we aren't following a formal plan. Rob's Offer for Trade Show University listeners: Free 30 minute Discovery Call to discuss business Vision, Goals & Issues Get in touch with Rob Wentz of 1Direction Strategy: Website: www.1dstrategy.com Email: rob@1dstrategy.com Phone: 855-262-2413 ext.2 1Direction Strategy - Team Wentz on Facebook, Instagram and LinkedIn BINGE ON MORE EPISODES of TRADE SHOW U! Easy to find the Topic you need! Every Episode sorted by Category Visit tradeshowu.biz/episodes Mentioned in this episode: Create Amazing Memorable Events with Michael Green Food & Wine Experiences! MICHAEL GREEN CREATES AND HOSTS WINE AND FOOD EXPERIENCES THAT BUILD RELATIONSHIPS AND DRIVE SALES. FROM CONFERENCES TO OFFISTES, MICHAEL'S HIGH ENERGY PRESENTATIONS ARE INFORMATIVE, HIGHLY ENTERTAINING AND RESONATE FOR YEARS TO COME. Find out why CMO firm Chief Outsiders said… Michael does much more than develop events – he creates memorable experiences for his clients and their guests. His expertise spanned all elements from planning to execution. What made the events truly special and memorable were Michael's knowledge, experience, contacts, and flair. He not only made us look good, he ensured we remained relevant in the eyes of our guests throughout the evening. LOOKING FOR A WAY TO STAND OUT AT YOUR NEXT CONFERENCE OR INCREASE YOUR CONFERENCE ROI? GO TO WWW.MICHAELGREEN.COM TO LEARN MORE. Mention you heard this ad on the Trade Show University podcast!

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How JG Wentworth Got Us Singing "Call 877 Cash Now" In The Shower With Ken Murray

Win-grin Podcast: Support The Community. Grow Your Brand

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 25, 2022 33:11


Remember the catchy J.G. Wentworth jingle that got everyone singing in the shower? Well, today's guest is Ken Murray, the hands-on marketing and digital leader responsible for creating several ground-breaking and award-winning TV and digital spots when he was the CMO at J.G. Wentworth, including "Call 877 Cash Now". Now, Ken works as CMO at Chief Outsiders. In this episode, he joins Evan Brandoff to discuss the story of creating the catchy jingle and the strategy behind it. He emphasizes the importance of aligning values to create outcomes that serve your purpose. Tune in to learn more about the viral ad and the secret sauce to great marketing.Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review & share! https://leagueside.com/podcast