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Daniel 6- & Psalm 46:1 *Deep Dive on Daniel: For those interested in exploring Daniel's story further, refer to our 6-part series, episodes #237-244. In today's episode we discuss: Understanding Worry: We differentiate worry from fear and explore how it affects us at different stages of our lives. Daniel's Story: A focus on Daniel 6, where Daniel's faith is put to the test, and he faces the lions' den with unwavering trust in God. The Power of Prayer: How Daniel's example of prayer offers us a way to navigate our own worries and find peace. Emotions in Check: We discuss the importance of keeping our worries in perspective, learning to place trusting God  as our guide rather than letting worry lead the way. To enjoy the library of bonus content (coloring pages, sheets, memory verse, etc) for the episodes go here and click bonus content. By enjoying them, you also help support this podcast so THANK YOU! To connect with us, go here. For our free Read-A-Loud pdf book go here.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Introduction * Daniel is a new type of prophet in a new type of situation. We can learn a great deal about God doing 'new things' from him and his companions. * Before watching this class you might like to view a summary of the book here: https://bibleproject.com/guides/book-of-daniel/

 Chapter 1 * Youth no barrier: “young men without physical defect and handsome,” (Daniel 1:4 NRSV) * Pick your battles: “But Daniel resolved that he would not defile himself with the royal rations of food and wine; so he asked the palace master to allow him not to defile himself.” (Daniel 1:8 NRSV) * Recognition of God: “To these four young men God gave knowledge and skill in every aspect of literature and wisdom;” (Daniel 1:17 NRSV) Chapter 2 * God's wisdom superior:     * “The thing that the king is asking is too difficult, and no one can reveal it to the king except the gods, whose dwelling is not with mortals.”” (Daniel 2:11 NRSV)     * ““No wise men, enchanters, magicians, or diviners can show to the king the mystery that the king is asking, but there is a God in heaven who reveals mysteries” (Daniel 2:27-28 NRSV) * Recognition of God     * “The king said to Daniel, “Truly, your God is God of gods and Lord of kings and a revealer of mysteries, for you have been able to reveal this mystery!”” (Daniel 2:47 NRSV) Chapter 3 * Never Compromise:  (Daniel 3:17-18 NRSV)     * Faith-inspired resistance is the victory, not a specific outcome * Recognition of God:  (Daniel 3:29 NRSV) Chapter 4 * God is Sovereign:  (Daniel 4:25 NRSV)     *  (Daniel 4:27 NRSV)     *  (Daniel 4:33 NRSV) * Pride can be Redeemed:     * “When that period was over, I, Nebuchadnezzar, lifted my eyes to heaven, and my reason returned to me.” (Daniel 4:34 NRSV) * Recognition of God:  (Daniel 4:34 NRSV) Chapter 5 * Convictions in Old Age: “There is a man in your kingdom who is endowed with a spirit of the holy gods. In the days of your father he was found to have enlightenment, understanding, and wisdom like the wisdom of the gods.” (Daniel 5:11 NRSV) * Be a prophet:     *  (Daniel 5:22-23 NRSV)     * (Daniel 5:26-28 NRSV) * Unwilling recognition of God:  (Daniel 5:30-31 NRSV) Chapter 6 * Who is really trapped? (Daniel 6:13-15 NRSV) * Integrity & Trust in God: (Daniel 6:22 NRSV) * Recognition of God: “I make a decree, that in all my royal dominion people should tremble and fear before the God of Daniel: For he is the living God, enduring forever. His kingdom shall never be destroyed, and his dominion has no end. He delivers and rescues, he works signs and wonders in heaven and on earth; for he has saved Daniel from the power of the lions.”” (Daniel 6:26-27 NRSV) Summary What do we learn about God? God: to His Servants * Inspires Daniel to test regime (Ch 1) * Gives Daniel wisdom (Ch 1, 4 & 5) * Gives Daniel boldness (Ch 4, 5 & 6)  * Strengthens Shadrach, Meshach & Abednego (Ch 3) God: for His Servants * Improved appearance (Ch 1) * Promotion (Ch 2, 3, 5, 6) * Rescue (Ch 2, 3, 6) God: to His Opponents * Stuns with his Power (Ch 3, 5, 6) * Humbles them (Ch 1, 3, 4, 5, 6) God: for Himself * Causes Gentiles to honour His chosen people (Ch 1, 2, 3, 5, 6) * Causes Gentiles to worship Him (Ch 2, 3, 4, 6) What do we learn for ourselves? 1. New things are often fear-inducing and uncomfortable -- even dangerous or risky 2. New things put us in a place where we experience the power of God in new and more profound ways 3. New things give us the opportunity to grow in our relationship with God 4. New things reveal new gifts in us and our community Conclusion * God doing new things in his people almost always results in those people experiencing fear. * when his people deliberately choose faith in the midst of fear they experience God at work. * When God is at work in these people experiencing a new thing he becomes visible to the world and receives glory. * When God has an impact on this world and gets the glory he deserves, the memory of such events passes down from one generation to another. Questions to stimulate discussion * Who do you relate to most and why? Daniel, Shadrach, Misheck, Abednego, Nebuchadnezzar, Belshazzar, Darius? * What do you think the main lesson is that God wants you to take from Daniel chapters 1 to 6? * How do the experiences of these chapters relate to any new thing in your life? * Similarly, how do the experiences of these chapters relate to anything new in your faith community? Please add your comments on this week's topic. We learn best when we learn in community. Do you have a question about teaching the Bible? Is it theological, technical, practical? Send me your questions or suggestions. Here's the email: malcolm@malcolmcox.org. If you'd like a copy of my free eBook on spiritual disciplines, “How God grows His people”, sign up at my website: http://www.malcolmcox.org. Please pass the link on, subscribe, leave a review. God bless, Malcolm

Introduction * Daniel is a new type of prophet in a new type of situation. We can learn a great deal about God doing 'new things' from him and his companions. * Before watching this class you might like to view a summary of the book here: https://bibleproject.com/guides/book-of-daniel/

 Chapter 1 * Youth no barrier: “young men without physical defect and handsome,” (Daniel 1:4 NRSV) * Pick your battles: “But Daniel resolved that he would not defile himself with the royal rations of food and wine; so he asked the palace master to allow him not to defile himself.” (Daniel 1:8 NRSV) * Recognition of God: “To these four young men God gave knowledge and skill in every aspect of literature and wisdom;” (Daniel 1:17 NRSV) Chapter 2 * God's wisdom superior:     * “The thing that the king is asking is too difficult, and no one can reveal it to the king except the gods, whose dwelling is not with mortals.”” (Daniel 2:11 NRSV)     * ““No wise men, enchanters, magicians, or diviners can show to the king the mystery that the king is asking, but there is a God in heaven who reveals mysteries” (Daniel 2:27-28 NRSV) * Recognition of God     * “The king said to Daniel, “Truly, your God is God of gods and Lord of kings and a revealer of mysteries, for you have been able to reveal this mystery!”” (Daniel 2:47 NRSV) Chapter 3 * Never Compromise:  (Daniel 3:17-18 NRSV)     * Faith-inspired resistance is the victory, not a specific outcome * Recognition of God:  (Daniel 3:29 NRSV) Chapter 4 * God is Sovereign:  (Daniel 4:25 NRSV)     *  (Daniel 4:27 NRSV)     *  (Daniel 4:33 NRSV) * Pride can be Redeemed:     * “When that period was over, I, Nebuchadnezzar, lifted my eyes to heaven, and my reason returned to me.” (Daniel 4:34 NRSV) * Recognition of God:  (Daniel 4:34 NRSV) Chapter 5 * Convictions in Old Age: “There is a man in your kingdom who is endowed with a spirit of the holy gods. In the days of your father he was found to have enlightenment, understanding, and wisdom like the wisdom of the gods.” (Daniel 5:11 NRSV) * Be a prophet:     *  (Daniel 5:22-23 NRSV)     * (Daniel 5:26-28 NRSV) * Unwilling recognition of God:  (Daniel 5:30-31 NRSV) Chapter 6 * Who is really trapped? (Daniel 6:13-15 NRSV) * Integrity & Trust in God: (Daniel 6:22 NRSV) * Recognition of God: “I make a decree, that in all my royal dominion people should tremble and fear before the God of Daniel: For he is the living God, enduring forever. His kingdom shall never be destroyed, and his dominion has no end. He delivers and rescues, he works signs and wonders in heaven and on earth; for he has saved Daniel from the power of the lions.”” (Daniel 6:26-27 NRSV) Summary What do we learn about God? God: to His Servants * Inspires Daniel to test regime (Ch 1) * Gives Daniel wisdom (Ch 1, 4 & 5) * Gives Daniel boldness (Ch 4, 5 & 6)  * Strengthens Shadrach, Meshach & Abednego (Ch 3) God: for His Servants * Improved appearance (Ch 1) * Promotion (Ch 2, 3, 5, 6) * Rescue (Ch 2, 3, 6) God: to His Opponents * Stuns with his Power (Ch 3, 5, 6) * Humbles them (Ch 1, 3, 4, 5, 6) God: for Himself * Causes Gentiles to honour His chosen people (Ch 1, 2, 3, 5, 6) * Causes Gentiles to worship Him (Ch 2, 3, 4, 6) What do we learn for ourselves? 1. New things are often fear-inducing and uncomfortable -- even dangerous or risky 2. New things put us in a place where we experience the power of God in new and more profound ways 3. New things give us the opportunity to grow in our relationship with God 4. New things reveal new gifts in us and our community Conclusion * God doing new things in his people almost always results in those people experiencing fear. * when his people deliberately choose faith in the midst of fear they experience God at work. * When God is at work in these people experiencing a new thing he becomes visible to the world and receives glory. * When God has an impact on this world and gets the glory he deserves, the memory of such events passes down from one generation to another. Questions to stimulate discussion * Who do you relate to most and why? Daniel, Shadrach, Misheck, Abednego, Nebuchadnezzar, Belshazzar, Darius? * What do you think the main lesson is that God wants you to take from Daniel chapters 1 to 6? * How do the experiences of these chapters relate to any new thing in your life? * Similarly, how do the experiences of these chapters relate to anything new in your faith community? Please add your comments on this week's topic. We learn best when we learn in community. Do you have a question about teaching the Bible? Is it theological, technical, practical? Send me your questions or suggestions. Here's the email: malcolm@malcolmcox.org. If you'd like a copy of my free eBook on spiritual disciplines, “How God grows His people”, sign up at my website: http://www.malcolmcox.org. Please pass the link on, subscribe, leave a review. God bless, Malcolm

'A New Thing' Lessons from chapters 1-6 Introduction * Daniel is a new type of prophet in a new type of situation. We can learn a great deal about God doing 'new things' from him and his companions. * Before watching this class you might like to view a summary of the book here: https://bibleproject.com/guides/book-of-daniel/

 * In this class we will look at the first 6 chapters of the book * Normally I would not cover so much material in one class, but we are doing this because in this way we will see themes emerge. * When it comes to discussing the points afterwards you may wish to focus on one or two of the points rather than everything Chapter 1 * Youth no barrier: “young men without physical defect and handsome,” (Daniel 1:4 NRSV) * Pick your battles: “But Daniel resolved that he would not defile himself with the royal rations of food and wine; so he asked the palace master to allow him not to defile himself.” (Daniel 1:8 NRSV) * Recognition of God: “To these four young men God gave knowledge and skill in every aspect of literature and wisdom;” (Daniel 1:17 NRSV) Chapter 2 * God's wisdom superior:     * “The thing that the king is asking is too difficult, and no one can reveal it to the king except the gods, whose dwelling is not with mortals.”” (Daniel 2:11 NRSV)     * ““No wise men, enchanters, magicians, or diviners can show to the king the mystery that the king is asking, but there is a God in heaven who reveals mysteries” (Daniel 2:27-28 NRSV) * Recognition of God     * “The king said to Daniel, “Truly, your God is God of gods and Lord of kings and a revealer of mysteries, for you have been able to reveal this mystery!”” (Daniel 2:47 NRSV) Chapter 3 * Never Compromise: “If our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the furnace of blazing fire and out of your hand, O king, let him deliver us. But if not, be it known to you, O king, that we will not serve your gods and we will not worship the golden statue that you have set up.”” (Daniel 3:17-18 NRSV)     * Faith-inspired resistance is the victory, not a specific outcome * Recognition of God: “I make a decree: Any people, nation, or language that utters blasphemy against the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego shall be torn limb from limb, and their houses laid in ruins; for there is no other god who is able to deliver in this way.”” (Daniel 3:29 NRSV) Chapter 4 * God is Sovereign: “You shall be driven away from human society, and your dwelling shall be with the wild animals. You shall be made to eat grass like oxen, you shall be bathed with the dew of heaven, and seven times shall pass over you, until you have learned that the Most High has sovereignty over the kingdom of mortals, and gives it to whom he will.” (Daniel 4:25 NRSV)     * “O king, may my counsel be acceptable to you: atone for your sins with righteousness, and your iniquities with mercy to the oppressed, so that your prosperity may be prolonged.”” (Daniel 4:27 NRSV)     * “He was driven away from human society, ate grass like oxen, and his body was bathed with the dew of heaven, until his hair grew as long as eagles' feathers and his nails became like birds' claws.” (Daniel 4:33 NRSV) * Pride can be Redeemed:     * “When that period was over, I, Nebuchadnezzar, lifted my eyes to heaven, and my reason returned to me.” (Daniel 4:34 NRSV) * Recognition of God: “I blessed the Most High, and praised and honoured the one who lives forever. For his sovereignty is an everlasting sovereignty, and his kingdom endures from generation to generation.” (Daniel 4:34 NRSV) Chapter 5 * Convictions in Old Age: “There is a man in your kingdom who is endowed with a spirit of the holy gods. In the days of your father he was found to have enlightenment, understanding, and wisdom like the wisdom of the gods.” (Daniel 5:11 NRSV) * Be a prophet:     * “you, Belshazzar his son, have not humbled your heart, even though you knew all this! You have exalted yourself against the Lord of heaven!” (Daniel 5:22-23 NRSV)     * “MENE, God has numbered the days of your kingdom and brought it to an end; TEKEL, you have been weighed on the scales and found wanting; PERES, your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians.”” (Daniel 5:26-28 NRSV) * Unwilling recognition of God: “That very night Belshazzar, the Chaldean king, was killed. And Darius the Mede received the kingdom, being about sixty-two years old.” (Daniel 5:30-31 NRSV) Chapter 6 * Who is really trapped? ““Daniel, one of the exiles from Judah, pays no attention to you, O king, or to the interdict you have signed, but he is saying his prayers three times a day. When the king heard the charge, he was very much distressed. He was determined to save Daniel, and until the sun went down he made every effort to rescue him. Then the conspirators came to the king and said to him, “Know, O king, that it is a law of the Medes and Persians that no interdict or ordinance that the king establishes can be changed.”” (Daniel 6:13-15 NRSV) * Integrity & Trust in God: “My God sent his angel and shut the lions' mouths so that they would not hurt me, because I was found blameless before him; and also before you, O king, I have done no wrong.”” (Daniel 6:22 NRSV) * Recognition of God: “I make a decree, that in all my royal dominion people should tremble and fear before the God of Daniel: For he is the living God, enduring forever. His kingdom shall never be destroyed, and his dominion has no end. He delivers and rescues, he works signs and wonders in heaven and on earth; for he has saved Daniel from the power of the lions.”” (Daniel 6:26-27 NRSV) Chapter 6 Chiasm Daniel emerges as best satrap
His enemies plot
King makes a fatal decree
Daniel arrested & sentenced to death
DANIEL DELIVERED-GOD WINS!
Daniel released to a “new” life
King makes a saving decree
The enemies are destroyed
Daniel confirmed as best satrap Summary What do we learn about God? God: to His Servants * Inspires Daniel to test regime (Ch 1) * Gives Daniel wisdom (Ch 1, 4 & 5) * Gives Daniel boldness (Ch 4, 5 & 6)  * Strengthens Shadrach, Meshach & Abednego (Ch 3) God: for His Servants * Improved appearance (Ch 1) * Promotion (Ch 2, 3, 5, 6) * Rescue (Ch 2, 3, 6) God: to His Opponents * Stuns with his Power (Ch 3, 5, 6) * Humbles them (Ch 1, 3, 4, 5, 6) God: for Himself * Causes Gentiles to honour His chosen people (Ch 1, 2, 3, 5, 6) * Causes Gentiles to worship Him (Ch 2, 3, 4, 6) What do we learn for ourselves? 1. New things are often fear-inducing and uncomfortable -- even dangerous or risky 2. New things put us in a place where we experience the power of God in new and more profound ways 3. New things give us the opportunity to grow in our relationship with God 4. New things reveal new gifts in us and our community Conclusion * God doing new things in his people almost always results in those people experiencing fear. * when his people deliberately choose faith in the midst of fear they experience God at work. * When God is at work in these people experiencing a new thing he becomes visible to the world and receives glory. * When God has an impact on this world and gets the glory he deserves, the memory of such events passes down from one generation to another. Questions to stimulate discussion * Who do you relate to most and why? Daniel, Shadrach, Misheck, Abednego, Nebuchadnezzar, Belshazzar, Darius? * What do you think the main lesson is that God wants you to take from Daniel chapters 1 to 6? * How do the experiences of these chapters relate to any new thing in your life? * Similarly, how do the experiences of these chapters relate to anything new in your faith community? Please add your comments on this week's topic. We learn best when we learn in community. Do you have a question about teaching the Bible? Is it theological, technical, practical? Send me your questions or suggestions. Here's the email: malcolm@malcolmcox.org. If you'd like a copy of my free eBook on spiritual disciplines, “How God grows His people”, sign up at my website: http://www.malcolmcox.org. Please pass the link on, subscribe, leave a review. “Worship the LORD with gladness; come before him with joyful songs.” (Psalms 100:2 NIV11) God bless, Malcolm

Dr Irene chats to Daniel Wilding, founder, owner and Chief Enabling Officer (CEO) of Daniel Wilding Community Interest Company (CIC), a social enterprise that helps people recovering from Severe and Enduring  Mental Illness (SEMI), co-producing and co-creating useful information products and services. As a finalist in the Mental Health Social Worker of the Year category at the Social Work Awards 2021, an associate producer on the award-winning sci-fi web series, ‘Horizon' (2015-2017), writer/director of Cannes Short Film Corner 2010 selected short film ‘16', co-executive producer/writer of the short film ‘Plymouth Souls' (2023) being pitched to Netflix and Paramount Pictures, and co-author of the book ‘Practice placements in social work: Innovative approaches to teaching and learning', Daniel has an enormous plethora of experience and knowledge to discuss with Dr Irene. Dr Irene and Daniel talk about his and his organisation's mission, Social Entrepreneurship, charity and his motivations, filmmaking, NHS work, and his definition of success. KEY TAKEAWAYS Daniel's ethos is ‘work, rest and social change.' With lived mental health experience, Daniel is perfectly placed to work in his chosen field. Daniel Wilding CIC gives all its surplus profit to Tommy's and Mind Daniels' film ‘16' explores how abuse and unpremeditated violence occurs. It can be difficult knowing where to focus efforts in social work. With as many forms of media over as many platforms as possible you can reach many people with your message. The process of self care is essential in the caring professions. BEST MOMENTS ‘I chose this mission because I'm in this quite privileged place where I'm a mental health social worker by profession and I'm also a person with lived experience of my own difficulties.'-Daniel ‘For me the definition of ‘Social Entrepreneurship' is a particular form of entrepreneurship that seeks to solve social problems with innovative solutions.'-Daniel ‘I would encourage people to reach out to those charities or to anyone who is willing to listen.'-Daniel ‘I've seen your movie and kudos that was a very, very good movie!'-Dr Irene ‘I measure (success) through the number of people that I work with. I'm working with a caseload of 12 people in my day job working within the NHS in secondary mental health services in a rehabilitation and recovery ward and across a community rehabilitation service.'-Daniel ‘I fundamentally believe that everyone regardless of their job that they do in the NHS deserve to be paid more.'-Daniel ‘Why do you think you were born to fit in, when you were actually born to stand out?'-Daniel GUEST RESOURCES YouTube https://youtu.be/mVEmJAbPisAhttps://youtu.be/1CvE16_5_zsInstagram Twitter LinkedIn VALUABLE RESOURCES Join Patreon : http://www.patreon.com/drireneching Instagram: irene.ching.777 Tiktok: @ireneching777 Youtube channel: Dr Irene Ching Twitter: @ireneching7777 Clubhouse: @ireneching1 https://www.facebook.com/irene.ching.735 LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/in/irene-ching-742623219 ABOUT THE HOST Dr Irene Ching is a medical practitioner who specialises in Family Medicine, Wealth and Life Coach, Property/ Business Investor, Speaker, and Podcaster. She has her own coaching programme on money mindset - Quantum Wealth Creation Accelerator (online course with weekly coaching). She approaches health and well-being in a holistic way and encourages people to look at all the areas of their lives. Her motto: Reset Your Mind, Reset Your life. The podcast Be Happy Healthy and Wealthy is aimed at people who wants to be high achievers who perform at their peak performance in all aspects of life. She has been interviewing successful entrepreneurs, keynote speakers, influencers and millionaires on this important subject. So stay tuned to get the deep dive on how to be happy, healthy and wealthy- the million dollar questions!          

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If we told you there's a business helping you turn other peoples dirty laundry into revenue, would you believe us ? Well there's no need to ponder, because the answer's in this episode. On today's upload, G' sits with friend of the Pod, Daniel Ellis, CEO & OWNER of Aloha Laundry Life to deliver a bonus episode we'd like to call the “Jerk Tank.” A spin on one of his favorite shows, “Shark Tank.” Inviting entrepreneurs to share the nitty gritty of their businesses and industry. Aloha is one of the latest players in today's “Gig-Economy” aiming to be “Uber of Laundry.” Owner, Daniel, provides a run through on what it takes to start a “Gig Biz,” In's and outs of “Buying a Business” and what he feels is the overall impact of the Gig Industry. Lastly, G' and Daniel run a few rounds of  “Will it Gig?” where G' pushes some of his own Gig concepts to Daniel FOR proof of viability! Gets a little wild trust. To learn more about Aloha Laundry Life check out the details below. Guest: Daniel Ellis Title: CEO/Owner  Business: Aloha Laundry Life  https://alohalaundrylife.com/ IG: @ALOHALAUNDRYAPP Follow us@ JerkJollofCollardPod on Instagram for more podcast related content, such as our post podcast discussion questions, RepYour business shouts, or to send us your questions, thoughts or express interest in joining one of our discussions  via  DM or Email: JJCPOD@GMAIL.COM. We'd greatly appreciate it if you left us a review on your preferred streaming platform of choice. Feel free to like or share our content with your family and friends! Stay Blessed!

-"God saw that it was good." (Genesis 1:10) -John Paul II talks about, in the Created Order, there were four good relationships: us with God; us with creation; us with other human beings; us with ourself. Before the Fall, these were perfect, and all of these led to a deeper intimacy with God. -Fr. Daniel -When they looked within, when they looked in the eyes of their beloved, and when they looked at creation around all them, all they could do was praise, glorify, and love their Creator. Now if that doesn't stir your hearts, I don't know what does.... That was how it was meant to be. That was how God created it for us. -Fr. Daniel -(Wisdom 2:23-24) -Jesus is King of the Universe, but in many ways, Satan is still king of this world. And we long for and wait for the final coming of our king. This is one of the aspects that we celebrate in Advent. -Fr. Daniel -For us to understand truly the gift that God has given us in His Son—what it means to be rescued—you can't understand our redemption and being rescued unless you understand what we're being rescued from. -Fr. Daniel -"Without Jesus Christ, we wound, we kill, and we go down to hell." (paraphrasing St. Ignatius of Loyola) -The reality is, to understand the gift of redemption, we must understand our fall. -Fr. Daniel -In our brokenness, we see what is good, and in fear, and in selfishness, and in a lack of trust in the goodness of God, we reach out and grasp, so that we might have control. So that we might take it to ourselves without needing to be dependent upon our Creator. And Satan does this so easily. All he needs to do is enter into a little area where truth resides, and twist it. -Fr. Daniel -Notice the conversation between the serpent, Satan, and Eve: Did God really say that? He sows a seed of doubt: Surely you will not die. Which in a way is true, but it's also not true. They won't physically die when they take of the fruit, but their relationship with God is divided. And from that severing, that division between them and God, all of the other dominoes fall down in an horrendous way. Their relationship with creation: broken. Their relationship between themselves: broken. Their relationship within their very own identity: broken. -Fr. Daniel ​-After the Fall, we turn within, we look within, and before Jesus Christ, what do you find? Emptiness. Absence. The image of God is ruptured, as a statue would be cast upon the ground. When we look at each other, we no longer see the glory of God in fulfillment, but we see an enemy, someone who can hurt me. When we look within ourselves, we see weakness, sinfulness, darkness, again and again and again. This should spurn in us, then, the longing for the return to the garden. The longing for the harmony and the peace that can be found there and only there, where we dwell with God and walk with Him side by side. And ultimately, it can only come in Jesus Christ. -Fr. Daniel​​​ -(Genesis 3:23-24) - (Baruch 5:6-7) -"John went throughout the whole region of the Jordan, proclaiming a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins, as it is written in the book of the words of the prophet Isaiah: A voice of one crying out in the desert: 'Prepare the way of the Lord, make straight his paths. Every valley shall be filled and every mountain and hill shall be made low. The winding roads shall be made straight, and the rough ways made smooth, and all flesh shall see the salvation of God.'" (Luke 3:3-6) -If we have one prayer, if we have one desire today, it's "My God, I am in need of a Savior, because I want to go back to the Garden. I want to go to the place where creation is fulfilled. Where my words flow from my heart in trust. And where, when I look within myself, I see wholeness, beauty, goodness, that I desire to share." -Fr. Daniel

From convincing an owner to sell to completely refitting an existing laundromat, listen as Dave "The Laundromat Millionaire" Menz and his wife, Carla, interview Daniel Sofranko, owner of Perfect Wash Express Laundry Center in Huntington Beach, California, made his laundromat vision a reality! Link to get Atmosphere TV: https://atmosphere.tv/partner/dave-menz and use code “MILLIONAIRE” Contact Mike directly: Mike.Kelly@Atmosphere.tv Referenced Links: Our guest's website: www.perfectwashhb.com Our guest's email: info@perfectwashhb.com Links to Daniel's articles in Planet Laundry: https://planetlaundry.com/author/Daniel/ For consulting services: www.laundromatmillionaire.com Our Youtube channel: https://youtube.com/c/LaundromatMillionaire Our Podcast: https://laundromatmillionaire.com/podcast/ Our Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/laundromatmillionaire/ Our LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-laundromat-millionaire-menz/ Our Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laundromatmillionaire/ Our laundromats: www.queencitylaundry.com Our pick-up and delivery laundry services: www.happynest.com/locations/ohio/cincinnati Coin Laundry Association: www.coinlaundry.org Continental Girbau West distributor: https://cg-west.com/ Planet Laundry magazine: https://planetlaundry.com/ Seinfeld “No Soup For You”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryNxl-lpOME Timestamps: 00:00 Intro Laundromat Millionaire Show - Guest Quotes 01:58 Daniel's Backstory - Generations of Entrepreneurs 06:01 The Jobs That Prepared Him for Laundromats 08:00 The Most Motivating Word is "NO" 10:35 Finding a Job During the Great Recession 12:20 Real Estate, Laundromats, or Squirrels?? 13:28 Researching the Laundromat Industry 17:20 Why is the Laundromat Industry So Great? 18:24 Importance of a Great Distributor 22:43 Buying His 1st Laundromat 26:09 Convincing an Owner to Sell - The Business Plan 28:45 Creating Relationship Capital 30:59 Converting a Dump into a Palace 33:26 Optimizing a Small Space 36:56 Daniel's Business Model 37:56 What to Focus on in Your Laundromat 39:34 Growing & Getting Profitable 42:31 Launching Drop Off and Pick Up & Delivery Services 44:22 How to Find Commercial Customers 45:16 Finding Your Niche 45:41 Developing a Team 47:27 How to Attract Great Clientele 50:15 A Passive Business?? 52:15 Contacting Daniel Sofranko Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Big things are happening in the world of WireGuard, Jim Salter joins to catch us up. Plus we chat with Daniel Foré and Cassidy James Blaede about the just released elementary OS 6. Special Guests: Brent Gervais, Cassidy James Blaede, Daniel Fore, and Jim Salter.

A quick look at Fedora Silverblue, your feedback including scanning and iOS vs Android, and FOSS devs actually making mony with guest Daniel Foré.   First Impressions We had a look at Fedora Silverblue, an immutable version of Fedora Workstation.     Feedback VueScan Scanner Software Swisscows   Software subscriptions and FOSS We are joined... Read More

A quick look at Fedora Silverblue, your feedback including scanning and iOS vs Android, and FOSS devs actually making money with guest Daniel Foré.   First Impressions We had a look at Fedora Silverblue, an immutable version of Fedora Workstation.     Feedback VueScan Scanner Software Swisscows   Software subscriptions and FOSS We are joined... Read More

Readings for Saturday, April 24, 2021 “Beloved, do not imitate what is evil but imitate what is good. Whoever does good is from God; whoever does evil has not seen God.” -- 3 John 11 Morning Psalm 92 1 It is good to give thanks to the Lord, to sing praises to your name, O Most High; 2 to declare your steadfast love in the morning, and your faithfulness by night, 3 to the music of the lute and the harp, to the melody of the lyre. 4 For you, O Lord, have made me glad by your work; at the works of your hands I sing for joy. 5 How great are your works, O Lord ! Your thoughts are very deep! 6 The dullard cannot know, the stupid cannot understand this: 7 though the wicked sprout like grass and all evildoers flourish, they are doomed to destruction forever, 8 but you, O Lord, are on high forever. 9 For your enemies, O Lord, for your enemies shall perish; all evildoers shall be scattered. 10 But you have exalted my horn like that of the wild ox; you have poured over me fresh oil. 11 My eyes have seen the downfall of my enemies; my ears have heard the doom of my evil assailants. 12 The righteous flourish like the palm tree, and grow like a cedar in Lebanon. 13 They are planted in the house of the Lord ; they flourish in the courts of our God. 14 In old age they still produce fruit; they are always green and full of sap, 15 showing that the Lord is upright; he is my rock, and there is no unrighteousness in him. Psalm 149 1 Praise the Lord ! Sing to the Lord a new song, his praise in the assembly of the faithful. 2 Let Israel be glad in its Maker; let the children of Zion rejoice in their King. 3 Let them praise his name with dancing, making melody to him with tambourine and lyre. 4 For the Lord takes pleasure in his people; he adorns the humble with victory. 5 Let the faithful exult in glory; let them sing for joy on their couches. 6 Let the high praises of God be in their throats and two-edged swords in their hands, 7 to execute vengeance on the nations and punishment on the peoples, 8 to bind their kings with fetters and their nobles with chains of iron, 9 to execute on them the judgment decreed. This is glory for all his faithful ones. Praise the Lord ! Midday Daniel 6:16-28 16 Then the king gave the command, and Daniel was brought and thrown into the den of lions. The king said to Daniel, “May your God, whom you faithfully serve, deliver you!” 17 A stone was brought and laid on the mouth of the den, and the king sealed it with his own signet and with the signet of his lords, so that nothing might be changed concerning Daniel. 18 Then the king went to his palace and spent the night fasting; no food was brought to him, and sleep fled from him. 19 Then, at break of day, the king got up and hurried to the den of lions. 20 When he came near the den where Daniel was, he cried out anxiously to Daniel, “O Daniel, servant of the living God, has your God whom you faithfully serve been able to deliver you from the lions?” 21 Daniel then said to the king, “O king, live forever! 22 My God sent his angel and shut the lions' mouths so that they would not hurt me, because I was found blameless before him; and also before you, O king, I have done no wrong.” 23 Then the king was exceedingly glad and commanded that Daniel be taken up out of the den. So Daniel was taken up out of the den, and no kind of harm was found on him, because he had trusted in his God. 24 The king gave a command, and those who had accused Daniel were brought and thrown into the den of lions—they, their children, and their wives. Before they reached the bottom of the den the lions overpowered them and broke all their bones in pieces. 25 Then King Darius wrote to all peoples and nations of every language throughout the whole world: “May you have abundant prosperity! 26 I make a decree, that in all my royal dominion people should tremble and fear before the God of Daniel: For he is the living God, enduring forever. His kingdom shall never be destroyed, and his dominion has no end. 27 He delivers and rescues, he works signs and wonders in heaven and on earth; for he has saved Daniel from the power of the lions.” 28 So this Daniel prospered during the reign of Darius and the reign of Cyrus the Persian. 3 John 1-15 1 The elder to the beloved Gaius, whom I love in truth. 2 Beloved, I pray that all may go well with you and that you may be in good health, just as it is well with your soul. 3 I was overjoyed when some of the friends arrived and testified to your faithfulness to the truth, namely how you walk in the truth. 4 I have no greater joy than this, to hear that my children are walking in the truth. 5 Beloved, you do faithfully whatever you do for the friends, even though they are strangers to you; 6 they have testified to your love before the church. You will do well to send them on in a manner worthy of God; 7 for they began their journey for the sake of Christ, accepting no support from non-believers. 8 Therefore we ought to support such people, so that we may become co-workers with the truth. 9 I have written something to the church; but Diotrephes, who likes to put himself first, does not acknowledge our authority. 10 So if I come, I will call attention to what he is doing in spreading false charges against us. And not content with those charges, he refuses to welcome the friends, and even prevents those who want to do so and expels them from the church. 11 Beloved, do not imitate what is evil but imitate what is good. Whoever does good is from God; whoever does evil has not seen God. 12 Everyone has testified favorably about Demetrius, and so has the truth itself. We also testify for him, and you know that our testimony is true. 13 I have much to write to you, but I would rather not write with pen and ink; 14 instead I hope to see you soon, and we will talk together face to face. 15 Peace to you. The friends send you their greetings. Greet the friends there, each by name. Luke 5:27-39 27 After this he went out and saw a tax collector named Levi, sitting at the tax booth; and he said to him, “Follow me.” 28 And he got up, left everything, and followed him. 29 Then Levi gave a great banquet for him in his house; and there was a large crowd of tax collectors and others sitting at the table with them. 30 The Pharisees and their scribes were complaining to his disciples, saying, “Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and sinners?” 31 Jesus answered, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick; 32 I have come to call not the righteous but sinners to repentance.” 33 Then they said to him, “John's disciples, like the disciples of the Pharisees, frequently fast and pray, but your disciples eat and drink.” 34 Jesus said to them, “You cannot make wedding guests fast while the bridegroom is with them, can you? 35 The days will come when the bridegroom will be taken away from them, and then they will fast in those days.” 36 He also told them a parable: “No one tears a piece from a new garment and sews it on an old garment; otherwise the new will be torn, and the piece from the new will not match the old. 37 And no one puts new wine into old wineskins; otherwise the new wine will burst the skins and will be spilled, and the skins will be destroyed. 38 But new wine must be put into fresh wineskins. 39 And no one after drinking old wine desires new wine, but says, ‘The old is good.'” Evening Psalm 23 1 The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want. 2 He makes me lie down in green pastures; he leads me beside still waters; 3 he restores my soul. He leads me in right paths for his name's sake. 4 Even though I walk through the darkest valley, I fear no evil; for you are with me; your rod and your staff— they comfort me. 5 You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies; you anoint my head with oil; my cup overflows. 6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life, and I shall dwell in the house of the Lord my whole life long. Psalm 114 1 When Israel went out from Egypt, the house of Jacob from a people of strange language, 2 Judah became God's sanctuary, Israel his dominion. 3 The sea looked and fled; Jordan turned back. 4 The mountains skipped like rams, the hills like lambs. 5 Why is it, O sea, that you flee? O Jordan, that you turn back? 6 O mountains, that you skip like rams? O hills, like lambs? 7 Tremble, O earth, at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the God of Jacob, 8 who turns the rock into a pool of water, the flint into a spring of water. You can also find all of today's readings at PCUSA.org. The Daily Lectionary podcast is a ministry of First Presbyterian Church of Plattsburgh, NY, read by Pastor Timothy J. Luoma.

Good news for Linux phones and Raspberry Pi users, an embarrassing security incident, Keybase bought by Zoom, KDE Korner, some feedback, and more.   Plugs Check out Joe’s other podcasts The New Show with Daniel Foré and Alan Pope, and 2.5 Admins with Jim Salter and Allan Jude.   News /e/ Partners With Fairphone postmarketOS... Read More

Good news for Linux phones and Raspberry Pi users, an embarrassing security incident, Keybase bought by Zoom, KDE Korner, some feedback, and more.   Plugs Check out Joe’s other podcasts The New Show with Daniel Foré and Alan Pope, and 2.5 Admins with Jim Salter and Allan Jude.   News /e/ Partners With Fairphone postmarketOS... Read More

Brent sits down with Daniel Foré, founder of elementary OS and co-host of User Error. We explore his early years in design and software, formative aspects of Ubuntu and Gentoo, the philosophies and history of elementary OS, and more. Special Guest: Daniel Fore.

Brent sits down with Daniel Foré, founder of elementary OS and co-host of User Error. We explore his early years in design and software, formative aspects of Ubuntu and Gentoo, the philosophies and history of elementary OS, and more. Special Guest: Daniel Fore.

Access to the Internet can be spotty in Northern Canada. But heavy industry happens up there all the same, and Bit Space Development's Daniel Blair wants to bring those workers the same access to XR-driven training and remote expert assistance as anywhere else enjoys. He chats with Alan about how he hopes to bring that about, in the first XR for Business of 2020. Alan: Hey, everyone, it’s Alan Smithson here with the XR for Business Podcast. Today, we’re speaking with Daniel Blair, founder and CEO of a Canadian VR company called Bit Space Development. We’ll be discussing how virtual reality is revolutionizing industrial training and why it’s vitally important to define your key performance indicators to release you and your customers from the Pilot POC Purgatory. All that and more on the XR for Business Podcast. With that, I want to welcome my good friend Dan to the show. Welcome to the show, Dan. Daniel: Hey, thanks for having me. Alan: It’s my absolute pleasure. Let’s get into what you guys are doin; making serious purposes with VR and AR. What does that mean? Daniel: Basically, what that means is we utilize immersive technologies to create games. But those games are used for training, education, and really serious purposes. We aren’t generally building applications that are going to be sold on Steam or sold on the Oculus store. But what we’re building are tools that integrate with clients infrastructure to help augment their workflow or create a safer workplace. Alan: I know you guys have done a ton of things. One of them was a hand tool training simulator. Maybe walk us through what are these things, and how are people using them? Daniel: For sure. Some of our most recent deployments include exactly what you’re talking about, the power tools simulator, which we created with a provincial organization here. That tool utilizes the room-scale six degrees of freedom tracking of any of the open VR-capable headsets, to put new entrants and kids on job sites and teach them about safe operation of power tools. And that can range from anything from a drill or a hammer drill or a circular saw. But we put some really interesting tools in there, like concrete saws — which would be extremely dangerous for a new entrant to use in real life. Alan: I actually know all about that, cement saws. When I was a kid, my dad was grinding some bricks with a grinding wheel and the wheel shattered and cut both his legs wide open. And I remember as a kid, taking him to the hospital and them having to sew up right down to the bone. I mean, this was a real problem. I know this firsthand. This is a very, very unsafe tool if used incorrectly. Daniel: Yeah. And the worst part of building these applications are the shock value photos that my clients will send me. I’ll wake up in the morning and they’ll say, “hey, this is a good example of why to learn about the safe operation of these tools.” And they’ll send me a photo of something similar to what happened to your dad, which is super unfortunate. And additionally to that, we’ve done a lot of work in the welding space, and on the more promotional side, our most recent deployment is called Level Up VR, which we developed with the USAF Workers of Tomorrow, an organization that promotes safe work sites and safe work practices for both employers and employees for youth. And that tool actually won an Impact Marketing Award for the use of the virtual reality tool in the campaign that was created to raise awareness. So we see both the marketing side and the education side. Alan: That’s amazing. Safe working is something that we need to market to. Tr

Access to the Internet can be spotty in Northern Canada. But heavy industry happens up there all the same, and Bit Space Development’s Daniel Blair wants to bring those workers the same access to XR-driven training and remote expert assistance as anywhere else enjoys. He chats with Alan about how he hopes to bring that about, in the first XR for Business of 2020. Alan: Hey, everyone, it’s Alan Smithson here with the XR for Business Podcast. Today, we’re speaking with Daniel Blair, founder and CEO of a Canadian VR company called Bit Space Development. We’ll be discussing how virtual reality is revolutionizing industrial training and why it’s vitally important to define your key performance indicators to release you and your customers from the Pilot POC Purgatory. All that and more on the XR for Business Podcast. With that, I want to welcome my good friend Dan to the show. Welcome to the show, Dan. Daniel: Hey, thanks for having me. Alan: It’s my absolute pleasure. Let’s get into what you guys are doin; making serious purposes with VR and AR. What does that mean? Daniel: Basically, what that means is we utilize immersive technologies to create games. But those games are used for training, education, and really serious purposes. We aren’t generally building applications that are going to be sold on Steam or sold on the Oculus store. But what we’re building are tools that integrate with clients infrastructure to help augment their workflow or create a safer workplace. Alan: I know you guys have done a ton of things. One of them was a hand tool training simulator. Maybe walk us through what are these things, and how are people using them? Daniel: For sure. Some of our most recent deployments include exactly what you’re talking about, the power tools simulator, which we created with a provincial organization here. That tool utilizes the room-scale six degrees of freedom tracking of any of the open VR-capable headsets, to put new entrants and kids on job sites and teach them about safe operation of power tools. And that can range from anything from a drill or a hammer drill or a circular saw. But we put some really interesting tools in there, like concrete saws — which would be extremely dangerous for a new entrant to use in real life. Alan: I actually know all about that, cement saws. When I was a kid, my dad was grinding some bricks with a grinding wheel and the wheel shattered and cut both his legs wide open. And I remember as a kid, taking him to the hospital and them having to sew up right down to the bone. I mean, this was a real problem. I know this firsthand. This is a very, very unsafe tool if used incorrectly. Daniel: Yeah. And the worst part of building these applications are the shock value photos that my clients will send me. I’ll wake up in the morning and they’ll say, “hey, this is a good example of why to learn about the safe operation of these tools.” And they’ll send me a photo of something similar to what happened to your dad, which is super unfortunate. And additionally to that, we’ve done a lot of work in the welding space, and on the more promotional side, our most recent deployment is called Level Up VR, which we developed with the USAF Workers of Tomorrow, an organization that promotes safe work sites and safe work practices for both employers and employees for youth. And that tool actually won an Impact Marketing Award for the use of the virtual reality tool in the campaign that was created to raise awareness. So we see both the marketing side and the education side. Alan: That’s amazing. Safe working is something that we need to market to. Tr

Thriving In Babylon is a sermon based on the book of Daniel For more podcasts, videos, and articles, visit: www.christianityculture.com

I'm joined by Daniel Foré for a revealing conversation about the philosophies, challenges and decisions involved in creating and managing a distribution like elementary OS. Plus, a Discovery of the Week your eyeballs will appreciate! Then, say hello to our first L4E Distro Challenge: MX Linux 19 Beta! To close out the episode, let's wind things down with some beautiful, melodic music from CLIFFVRD. Special Guest: Daniel Foré.

0:00:05 Daniel: Welcome to Improving Intimacy, a podcast to help single and married Latter Day Saints strengthen their family connections and marriages. Daniel A. Burgess, is the host of Improving Intimacy. Daniel's a marriage and family therapist, father, husband and author. Here's Daniel on this episode of Improving Intimacy.0:00:29 Daniel: Welcome to another episode of Improving Intimacy. Today we have on the line, Anarie. And she will be sharing with us, her personal experiences around porn addiction in her relationship, and her experiences with addiction recovery treatment. Welcome to the show, Anarie.0:00:49 Anarie: Thanks Daniel.0:00:51 Daniel: Tell us a little bit about yourself. Give us some details, who are you, and tell us a little bit about your experience?0:01:00 Anarie: Hey. I am in my early 30s. I'm an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I have two kids, ages eight and five. I was married for 11 years. We were married in a temple. And we had our divorce finalized about four months ago, and separated about a year ago. So, that's kinda where I'm at.0:01:24 Daniel: This is pretty recent and fresh. And I appreciate you, even with that, coming on and sharing your experiences here. Give us a little background on the... You shared with me that, was it your husband or you, who is experiencing the issues around pornography? Let's start there.0:01:47 Anarie: It was my husband.0:01:48 Daniel: Your husband. And how long into the marriage or before the marriage did you know that there was a problem?0:01:55 Anarie: So, we dated for about nine months before we got married. A pretty short time. Looking back at the time, it seemed like a long time. But about two months into our dating, kind of the time when we went fairly exclusive, he told me that he had had struggles with pornography before his mission. He was a return missionary at the time we were dating. He told me he'd had some trouble with it before his mission, that he'd resolved it with his Bishop, at that time.0:02:25 Anarie: And that since then, that it had been no issue at all, that he had no struggle with it during his mission. And but since meeting me, felt extra strong and resisting but he wanted me to know that that had been a part of his past. So I took his word for it, that it was in the past and that it was several years since he'd had a struggle with it. At that time, we didn't really talk about it very much other than I basically said, "Hey I don't expect you to be perfect, I'm proud of you for resolving it." And it sort of went to rest at that time.0:03:11 Anarie: Then about nine months after we were married, is when I found out that he was still actively using pornography and masturbating without my knowledge. And I found that out, there were some things off in our marriage, in our sexual relationship right from the beginning. And sort of when I was pressing into some of that, that he admitted that he had viewed some. At that time he told me it was just recent and that he'd never do it again. He felt it wasn't something that he needed to talk to the Bishop about, and I was okay with that. I do feel like I had a trauma response, and I was very anxious to believe that it really was just once or twice and kinda put it away at that time.0:04:11 Daniel: What happened before? So you were at about two months into the relationship, you guys became serious. And from what I'm hearing, it's impressive. Some individuals don't even, if they feel like their porn use or whatever sin it may be, is in the past, sometimes they don't even mention it. But he was mentioning it to you at about two months in. To, I don't know, clear the air, or just keep you informed. Which seemed like a good thing. What was your experience at the time?0:04:45 Daniel: I really value what you said, you said, "You know it's in the past." But emotionally, what were you experiencing? Were you thinking, "Oh boy, this is gonna be a potential issue in the future."? Or did you feel like, "Oh, it's taken care of, this shouldn't be a problem, going forward."? What were you experiencing?0:05:03 Anarie: That's a great question. I was nervous about it. It was a little bit of a concern. And actually, about a month before we got married, my older sister said to me, "Make sure you've talked to him about pornography. Make sure you've asked him about pornography use." And I said. "Oh... "0:05:22 Daniel: She did that just randomly, or did she already know?0:05:25 Anarie: Yes.0:05:25 Daniel: Okay.0:05:26 Anarie: No, she didn't know. And I didn't tell her. I told her, "Yes, we've had the conversation." And she seemed to imply that if there was pornography use that I shouldn't be marrying him. I very much wanted to marry him, so I chose not to tell her that that was something that had been a problem in the past. So I was a little bit nervous about it.0:05:49 Daniel: Did that scare you?0:05:50 Anarie: I knew it could potentially be a problem in the future. Yeah.0:05:53 Daniel: When she said, "If there's any pornography, don't pursue the marriage." I think it sounds pretty clear why you didn't share more, is because he had issues...0:06:05 Anarie: And I think rather than not pursuing the marriage, he was encouraging to take it seriously.0:06:10 Daniel: Oh absolutely, right.0:06:12 Anarie: And to not just dismiss it. Which I probably dismissed it more than I should have.0:06:21 Daniel: You said, before we went back to the dating phase, you were starting to talk about how you're seeing some signs after he'd mentioned he had ongoing issues. Did I hear you correctly?0:06:33 Anarie: Yes, yeah.0:06:34 Daniel: What were those indicators, those red flags, so to speak?0:06:38 Anarie: We did not have a good sexual relationship right from the beginning of our marriage. We didn't have sex very often. There were just a lot of things that were really weird, that seemed like they weren't typical at all for what I'd heard initial marriage was supposed to be like. And...0:07:04 Daniel: For the sake of the listeners and their, for a variety of experiences, are you comfortable with maybe giving some of those specifics? What did you see as...0:07:14 Anarie: Oh, what I was expecting?0:07:15 Daniel: Yeah. What you were expecting, or what seemed off?0:07:18 Anarie: I think I was expecting honeymoon phase, where we have sex multiple times a week, multiple times a day. I felt, before we were married, there was lots of sexual tension and lots of sexual interest, and so in my mind, I thought that once we got married, we were gonna have sex a whole bunch, and it was gonna be really fantastic, and we were gonna want each other whole bunch. And that's not what happened, when we got married there actually was a significant decrease in any sort of sexual tension or sexual interest.0:07:56 Daniel: Even though it sounds like you were wanting more frequent sex at that time, and were you communicating that, or did it just dry up real quick?0:08:08 Anarie: Yes, I was communicating it. Through our whole marriage, we had what would be termed as a sexless marriage, sex fewer than 12 times a year. And I was the one who consistently was saying, "Hey, I want more. This isn't right. What's wrong?" Reading lots of books. I took on a lot of the blame for that, and I think because by taking on the blame myself, it was something that I could fix.0:08:42 Anarie: So I read lots of things about Good Girl Syndrome, about maybe why... 'Cause he would sort of say that I wasn't responding the way that I should, and so he didn't want to, or usually when I tried to talk to him about it, it just sort of... It was almost like we couldn't talk about it, it never went much of anywhere. I expressed a lot of like my things, but then there was never much response from him.0:09:11 Daniel: Traditionally, we think of the husband as the higher sex desire partner. Was that confusing to you to see he had a lower desire than you, and that the sex was infrequent? Was that part of the reason why you're taking on the blame?0:09:27 Anarie: It was very confusing to me, especially because prior to our marriage, I was the boundary keeper, he was always pushing the boundaries sexually, and I was the boundary keeper. So then it was really confusing when we got married, and suddenly it was different. I wasn't feeling that desire from him any more.0:09:51 Daniel: And what was he saying, what was the feedback? And I wanna respect the fact that he's not here, and the listeners are taking this at the value... From your perspective. With that being said, what information was he giving to you? Was he saying that he wasn't attracted to you, or what was the reasoning he was giving?0:10:15 Anarie: Not really any reason at all. After a while, as I read more books and stuff, we did have the high desire-low desire. And so he would say, "I guess I'm just a lower-desire person," or... But no, there was never much explanation. I would say things like, I did believe that he wanted me before marriage and after marriage, he didn't, so that must mean that I was a disappointment, so I was the problem, I think that was part of it too. And so a lot of that, I was the one saying, and he didn't really counter it. I mean, he would say, "No, that's not the case," but then he'd never tell me why or do anything to make me believe anything different, in terms of attractiveness and interest, if that makes sense?0:11:11 Daniel: So the absence of information left you with very little to go off of, and it was like you didn't feel that attraction towards you, and he wasn't refuting it, so what else were you left to believe? Interesting.0:11:24 Anarie: Yeah. And so I filled a lot of that void with my own ideas and my own beliefs, and read books to try to figure it out.0:11:34 Daniel: So from there, that was about, you said, nine months into the marriage. Then when did... You're doing all this research, when did it finally become clear that this was actually being as a result of his porn use or masturbation? How far into that discovery was it?0:11:54 Anarie: Okay, so I'm actually kind of embarrassed that it was so long, but it was years before I really got clear that it was pornography, that it was still an active issue. We went to a couple of therapists, we went to one at LDS Family Services, and this was probably four years into our marriage. And so that was fairly traumatic for me, 'cause it ended up feeling very much like... The therapist that we went to... We only went to one session, so... And it was my first therapy experience, but I felt very much like the male therapist and my male husband were looking at me, confirming that I was the problem and waiting for me to get on board or figure something out. I don't remember any discussion of pornography in that session.0:12:57 Daniel: What were they then saying, or what... How do I ask this? You felt it like you were the problem. What were they identifying as the problem, specifically?0:13:11 Anarie: My lack of trust in him. So that actually... And that's something that my husband would say to me a lot. I would ask him about porn, so during this time, I would ask him about it, and he would tell me, "No, I'm not using it. I haven't for years." And he would say, "You need to trust me." So even though he knew that he was not trustworthy, but that was what he was using. It's something that needed to be resolved, is I needed to forgive and I needed to move on and I needed to trust.0:13:47 Daniel: It was manipulative. He knew he wasn't being trustworthy, yet asking for your trust.0:13:53 Anarie: Right. Yeah, yeah. And I was overriding a lot of my gut instinct. I can see now, looking back, that I didn't feel safe with him, and I didn't trust him, and I wasn't able to connect with him because he wasn't being truthful and he wasn't being safe. But I was so unwilling at that time to look at that reality, to believe that he could be lying to my face, that I was taking it all on myself and trying to fix it that way.0:14:23 Daniel: Unfortunately. An unfortunate event, not only the betrayal from your husband, but coming across the therapist who, is what we call triangulating, siding essentially with one person in the experience. But it sound like you got rid of that person pretty quickly, you only had one session.0:14:44 Anarie: Part of it was because he was male and I specifically wanted a female therapist. I felt like it would, I would feel safer. So the second therapist we went to was female, and we went to her for several months. And that was interesting. The only conversation about pornography that we had there was, I remember she asked him directly once if he had current use of pornography. He said, "No."0:15:10 Anarie: So then, all of the conversations about how I couldn't get over his past pornography use and how that was interfering and during that time, we were assigned to have sex a certain number of times a week or a month and report back. And when it was an assignment, it happened, so he was willing to engage with me when it was an assignment, when we were reporting back to the therapist. And I think I felt hopeful, so maybe we just needed to get jump started. So that when we were no longer going to that therapist, it again, that essentially disappeared.0:15:48 Daniel: Again, I wanna respect the fact that he's not here, but that sounds a little... For the sake of the listener, he wasn't, am I following you right, he wasn't willing to have more sex with you when you were asking for it but when it was an assignment from the therapist, he would meet that assignment? Is that what you're saying?0:16:07 Anarie: Yes, yes, yeah.0:16:08 Daniel: What do you think was the difference? Do you think he was wanting to meet a commitment with the therapist, or impress the therapist, or why the difference there? Why was he willing to comply as an assignment?0:16:22 Anarie: I think it may have been partly that; I also think there's a rejection factor, that because it was assigned by the therapist, it was clearly mutually greed, that he was on board and I was on board, so there was no risk of him initiating something sexually and having me feel unsafe or not want it, or be hesitant. Does that makes sense?0:16:44 Daniel: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And it seems to make sense, especially in the context of what we're talking about here. And what about your hurt; what about your trauma in this experience? Was the therapist mindful of your experiences?0:17:00 Anarie: No, I don't think she had much knowledge of betrayal trauma at all and I didn't have much vocabulary for that either. I don't know that I even knew what betrayal trauma was as a category or how it might be impacting me. Once I learned about betrayal trauma, then my response to everything made so much sense, my response over the years.0:17:24 Daniel: And you said how long were you seeing this particular therapist?0:17:29 Anarie: I think it was about four months. And it was right after the birth of... I think it was when my oldest was about a year old, so four years after our marriage, and we had a one-year-old baby at home.0:17:42 Daniel: And this, I think you're saying seemed to provide some sort of hope, because you're having more frequent sex, things seemed to be improving, but emotionally they weren't.0:17:54 Anarie: Yes. And I would often say to my husband; I felt like I was begging, "Please give me another chance. Can we try again? Can we do this more often?" And he would say, "Yes."0:18:07 Daniel: Wait, wait, begging for what? Sex, or just stay married?0:18:10 Anarie: For us to have sex, for us to have sex more often.0:18:13 Daniel: Oh, okay.0:18:15 Anarie: I talked to... One other thing that was going on here is I did talk to my OB-GYN about vaginismus, and got some information about a program for that.0:18:27 Daniel: So you were, you're experiencing painful sex also?0:18:29 Anarie: Yes. And I think largely due to no foreplay and no arousal. So I don't know that... The vaginismus program wasn't super helpful for me, because I think...0:18:47 Daniel: The foreplay was absent.0:18:49 Anarie: Yeah, there was no arousal happening at all, so of course it was painful and not awesome for me.0:18:57 Daniel: But even with the painful sex, you were still craving... Maybe craving isn't the right word, desiring more frequent sex from him.0:19:06 Anarie: Yes. I think a lot because I had been taught to believe that it was my responsibility as a wife to meet my husband's sexual needs and to fulfill my husband sexually. And I had been, I'd heard from parents and from church leaders that men who are happy with their wives don't look at porn. Which is a incredibly harmful message, that I had internalized and was accepting as part of truth. So I think part of it too was I knew that pornography had been an issue for him, and so one of my ways of helping him with that was gonna be to have sex with him, and then it wasn't working.0:19:49 Daniel: That's powerful.0:19:50 Anarie: I don't know if that makes sense, but that's...0:19:52 Daniel: It actually... You read... Yeah, well, I was about to ask that question, about how much of this was a preventative measure? You felt it was your responsibility as the wife in this eternal marriage to protect and provide a source for his outlet, to prevent him from pornography?0:20:12 Anarie: Yes.0:20:13 Daniel: You're desiring more sex, but there was also a strong element there of, "Okay, if I'm desirable enough to him he won't venture into this icky place," right?0:20:24 Anarie: Yeah, I felt like it was part of my responsibility as a good wife to have a good sexual relationship. I also think, my parents had also told me that sex is a beautiful thing. And once you're married, it's a beautiful part of life. So I do feel like I had a lot of positive affirmation for sex as well.0:20:42 Daniel: But you're like, "Where's the beauty?" [chuckle]0:20:45 Anarie: Yes, yeah. But I felt like I wanted that. And I wanted to make it happen, and I wasn't just gonna settle for like, "Oh, I guess sex is stupid and painful, and so good riddance." I wasn't content to just write it off as, "Okay, well, I guess we won't do this."0:21:03 Daniel: There are quite a few spouses out there that are in similar positions as you and, I don't have any statistics at all, but at least with my anecdotal experience and things that I've read, it seems like a lot of wives will go to a place of... They will actually stop having sex. But you were trying to make this beautiful. You were trying to achieve this thing that your parents were saying is good.0:21:34 Anarie: Yes.0:21:34 Daniel: And so that was amazing. That's, you weren't giving up on this hope that it could be something wonderful. So when did things, so to speak, hit the fan? When did you... Did he finally come out and say, "You know what, it's not you, it's been the pornography." What happened there, how did that occur?0:21:55 Anarie: Okay, so it was when my... Let's see, my five-year-old was a year old. Yeah, so our second child was a year old, and by that point, I felt like I had read all the books and talked to my doctor. Essentially, I felt like I had done everything to fix myself and to educate myself. I kinda felt like I'd hit a limit on what I could do on my end. And so I...0:22:32 Daniel: This was what, about five, six years in your marriage?0:22:35 Anarie: So this was about four years ago. So yeah, so it's seven years...0:22:40 Daniel: Seven years into the marriage.0:22:41 Anarie: Seven years into our marriage.0:22:42 Daniel: Wow, so this is...0:22:42 Anarie: So, yeah...0:22:43 Daniel: Wow, okay, good.0:22:46 Anarie: So I got to the point where I basically told him, "I am done with our marriage. I'm not willing to live in a marriage like this. It's not okay with me." By then, also, I had seen a lot more, I'd gotten a lot smarter about pornography usage. So I think a lot of my denial, believing that he was not actually engaging, had been broken down, because I actually started believing a lot of the studies, a lot of the information that was saying that pornography is an ongoing problem, that you don't just turn it off, like he was claiming he'd done. So basically I said, "I've done everything I can. Either you start talking and you start doing something, or I'm out of this marriage. I'm done."0:23:42 Anarie: And I really was to the point where I was willing to get divorced over this. That I didn't want to live in a emotionally disconnected sexless marriage. We were great. We've always been great business partners, good at coordinating logistical things. So the other aspects of what I believe should be part of marriage were completely non-existent. So I believe it was at that point when he realized that I was dead serious that... So by continuing to lie and hide his addiction, he was going to lose the marriage that he decided to start disclosing.0:24:18 Daniel: And can I ask you a personal question here? Is...0:24:22 Anarie: Yeah.0:24:23 Daniel: Were you at any time in that seven years trying to find clues, or go through his internet history or browser, and see if... Were you checking it?0:24:37 Anarie: No.0:24:37 Daniel: Wow, I'm impressed.0:24:39 Anarie: No, I didn't, I didn't play detective like that.0:24:42 Daniel: No, and forgive me, I'm not suggesting you should have, or anybody else should have. I'm just curious to what extent you were... You had a gut feeling, things weren't adding up, and you wanted to believe him, but there was something just off and...0:24:58 Anarie: Well, I am sort of amazed that I... Looking back, there was evidence. I did actually see some things that I should have realized were linked to current pornography usage. But I didn't. One other thing here that I wanna mention is that, about when we were going to that female therapist, you know, a few years into our marriage.0:25:21 Daniel: Right.0:25:23 Anarie: One of the things that came up was that he had never gone and talked to the Bishop after that initial disclosure nine months into our marriage. So I expressed that maybe if he went and talked to the Bishop to resolve that old issue with pornography nine months into our marriage, then I would be able to relax about it and trust him. So he went to our Bishop. And, I was not there so I don't know exactly what was said, but basically he disclosed that he'd viewed pornography within the first year of our marriage, and that it had been really devastating to me. So he told the Bishop some story, and about three weeks later, he was called as elders quorum president in our ward. Which I took to be a sign from God that he was clear.0:26:15 Daniel: Oh.0:26:16 Anarie: That the pornography issue was resolved. So I think that that was also part of why I refused to acknowledge that it was still actively happening all the time.0:26:28 Daniel: So you gave him this... Gosh, it almost sounds like an ultimatum. You were saying, "I'm done here. You gotta bring it forward," seven years into the marriage, what was his response?0:26:42 Anarie: He started disclosing some things. It was a staggering disclosure. He started admitting that he had... At first he just said that he had masturbated. So he'd been actively masturbating. And, which was upsetting to me but also relieving, "Oh, so that's where your sexual... You are a sexual person. That's where your sexual energy is going." And he said it at first that it was like old... He was using old mental images from his prior pornography use and stuff. So over the course of two or three weeks, he started disclosing more that, "Okay, there had been pornography use, but not in the last year."0:27:29 Anarie: Now that I know more about addiction or sexual addiction and how these disclosures generally happen, it really did fit the framework a lot, that he would disclose a little bit and see how I reacted, and then disclose a little bit more, or based on how I responded or what his shame was. And it was about three weeks after he initially started disclosing that he went to our current bishop. It was his initiation. He went to our current bishop and talked to his parents. And then, I talked to my parents and got in touch with a Lifestar therapist. And we were able to pretty quickly get into a sexual addiction recovery program.0:28:13 Daniel: So, now that you hear what's going on, you're able to get the right resources in there, at least different resources. So what was your experience? Was that... I asked these questions... I know you mentioned at the beginning you're divorced now, what was that experience like for you? Was it helpful?0:28:30 Anarie: It was very helpful, yes. I think we both felt a lot of relief that we had a problem that was identified, and that we could seek treatment for. So, there was a clear path for us to get on now. Whereas before it was like, "Something's wrong in our marriage, what's wrong? What's wrong? How do we fix this?" At least what was going on on my end. And with the pornography sexual addiction model, that gave, "Oh, there's a clear problem, there's a name for it, there's a name for what I'm experiencing, there's a treatment plan, there are other people that are experiencing this." So I feel like it immediately brought a sense of release and hope and safety that we would be able to figure this out.0:29:23 Daniel: For those who aren't familiar with Lifestar out in Utah, I think they're actually in a couple of different other states now but, for those who aren't familiar with addiction treatment, behavior treatment, what was that like? So you're saying now they're actually focusing on the pornography, and they're providing a treatment plan. Help the audience understand what does that mean? What does that look like?0:29:49 Anarie: Okay. So, the first part of Lifestar is called, Phase One, and it's a six-week education phase that couples attend together. If they want to. Sometimes individuals come 'cause their spouse won't come. But generally it's attended by couples, it's six weeks and basically it's kind of... I said educational 'cause the therapist presents information, and we had workbooks to do learning about addiction, learning about shame, some basic family of origin things. A little bit about drama triangle, attachment principles, and, during those we would sometimes break into smaller groups and share some answers from our workbooks. But for the most part, it was not a group therapy kind of experience.0:30:41 Anarie: Then after that six week, Phase One, then Phase Two starts, and that's when each person goes to their group therapy. So it's divided based on gender. So I had my group, and he had his group, and that was a group therapy, a weekly group therapy session. And we had additional workbooks and assignments that we would each work through in our individual groups; and their groups were led by a therapist. The Lifestar program is administered by different therapists, so it's like a franchise type of thing. And, the program that we did it in, the therapist really believes in not setting strict time parameters.0:31:29 Anarie: So, we were actually... Compared to some others where it's like phase two is six months and then you moved to the next phase. It was much more based on readiness and reaching a certain emotional place. So, compared to some other Lifestar group, I was in Lifestar for a total of three years before I completed it.0:31:50 Daniel: Is that...0:31:51 Anarie: And a lot of people do the Lifestar program in 18 months.0:31:54 Daniel: Yeah, you answered my question.0:31:54 Anarie: So I just wanna throw that out there, that's my experience, it's a little different from other Lifestar experiences. After about a year of... Or maybe 10 months of Phase Two, I graduated to Phase Three. And the reason for the different phases is just because it keeps people in the group that are in a similar stage of recovery, 'cause early recovery and fresh raw trauma looks and feels and sounds different than a little further down the recovery road. So, moving from Phase Two to Phase Three, it was more about...0:32:34 Anarie: There was a little change in focus, much less like raw trauma. And so, that's why there it was divided by phase. And in Phase Three, there were different assignments. One significant thing that's done... And they've changed it a little bit now, but there's a formal disclosure that happens during Phase Two, if both parties are willing, and it's a therapeutic disclosure. So the couple meet with the therapist, and it's a organized disclosure where the addict discloses to their spouse all of their behavior, behaviors in the addiction, and the spouse prepares questions in advance to ask.0:33:20 Anarie: So it's a chance to clear the air, start fresh, to ask questions in a safe environment, with a therapist you can hopefully watch for signs of lying or... And for me it was kind of healing because there had been a lot of unhealthy disclosure, it was helpful to have that formal disclosure where I had support, I knew it was coming, I had a therapist, I had friends. So in a way, that was able to heal some of the more traumatic earlier disclosures. So anyway, that was also...[overlapping conversation]0:33:52 Daniel: What a wonderful resource. So during that three years, you're taking it your own pace, working through your own trauma. So this is wonderful, you finally it sounds like now that you have your own cohort, so to speak, or a group of people that you can trust. You're able to now work through your trauma, your hurt, while he's dealing with his struggles. Did you see during that three-year period the relationship improve, or what was the result of attending these different phases?0:34:29 Anarie: Okay, so I do wanna throw in real quick that we also did individual therapy, we each had individual therapy sessions in the same group.0:34:35 Daniel: There at Lifestar, or somewhere separate?0:34:38 Anarie: We did it with the same therapist. So the therapist that led our lifestyle group was also the therapist we went to for our individual sessions, through most of it.0:34:49 Daniel: Excellent. So they understood what you were doing. And that's great. The reason why I point that out is, I think that's actually wonderful. In fact, studies show that if you only do group treatment, you don't have as high success rate. If you combine individual and group treatment, the success rate goes up. And the fact that your therapist was familiar with the program allowed that, I guess synergy, or you don't have to re-explain everything why you're doing what you're doing, or anything like that.0:35:22 Anarie: It integrated really well in taking place.0:35:24 Daniel: Exactly.0:35:25 Anarie: It was really helpful. We did have some couple sessions often on during that time mostly after disclosure and we did the couple sessions as well with the same therapist. When I was in phase three so in the third year of recovery I did go to an outside therapist for a period of time and that was really, really helpful for me. And looking back, I would say that I wish that we would have done some couples therapy with another therapist as well. I think because all of our treatment was coming from the same therapist there was some more... There were just some issues that came up with that but I think there might have been more safety if we had had some other therapist as well.0:36:08 Daniel: Would you point that out if you feel comfortable in doing that. I think that's actually a really important fact that people don't realize. There's a couple of elements here, and I'll share with you my thoughts, and then tell me what it was for you. I personally I'm very comfortable in doing individual and couples with the same people, there are limitations and there are exceptions there and that's usually discovered in the intake processes, is what we call it, and if I feel like it will be a benefit to both the individual and as a couple.0:36:43 Daniel: But there are cases where it's even if I'm comfortable with it, it's not a wise move or it's not a good way to support the couple because of the dynamics or whatever it is there and so a lot of clients will sometimes seek that from a therapist and there comes the other issues if a therapist is confident to navigate and to be able to separate the individual versus the couple experience there and sometimes bringing them together and so the individual seeking that kind of treatment both the individual and couples therapy, need to be aware of that in the risks and the benefits from that. What was your personal experience with that?0:37:27 Anarie: So, I feel that there were some very real benefit, because that therapist was aware, very aware of where each of us was individually. I think that that aided him in a lot of our sessions to... I don't know, I think he was aware of things that we didn't have to talk about 'cause he already knew but I think the biggest reason that I would say I wish we would have gone to someone else with kind of a safety thing.0:38:00 Anarie: So there were times that I felt like our therapist was on my husband's side, and there were times when my husband felt like the therapist was on my side. Whether or not that was accurate, I do think that... And maybe that would have happened with any therapist, but that came up. My perspective from me right now, and my therapist has acknowledged this, is that there was some manipulation, my husband manipulated the therapist. And that was part of why, when I went to an outside therapist, that was really helpful and empowering for me, because that other therapist had not been manipulated by my husband. So, I don't know.0:38:51 Daniel: That's... Yeah.0:38:54 Anarie: Because the therapists that we shared was so in it for multiple years and so he started giving blind spots and there are some things that he didn't see at the time that happens with any therapist.0:39:09 Daniel: Yeah, I think this is a very valid point, one that's kinda hard to communicate in a brief interview like this. And there's a lot of caveats here, I understand very well what you're talking about. I've even had to be very careful with working with couples that I'd known for a long time, or have been... Or I'm following up with, and knowing when and how to ask the right questions. It's very difficult when you have built that relationship, and you're not necessarily looking for all the signs of manipulation. And I'm gonna be cautious here. I'm tempted to say a good therapist can see those signs, but that means we would have to be perfect too.0:39:51 Anarie: Right. Yeah.0:39:52 Daniel: It's a very difficult experience.0:39:54 Anarie: Yeah. Well, and I think my main message to any of the listeners would be, I know it's really scary to get in with an initial therapist. At least it was for me. For me it was really scary to get into therapy, to build a relationship with a therapist, to be vulnerable about these things. So it was really scary to go find another therapist, another person, especially because I'd had some bad experiences...0:40:18 Daniel: Exactly.0:40:18 Anarie: With therapists before. I had some therapist trauma. But if you're feeling like you want another therapist, you want another perspective, a good therapist is not gonna be threatened by you wanting to go talk to somebody else for a period of time.0:40:31 Daniel: Thank you for saying that. Absolutely.0:40:34 Anarie: And you can get the support that you need to go talk to another therapist, or to go as a couple and try talking to another therapist.0:40:43 Daniel: I think you've brought up...0:40:44 Anarie: That you don't have to be still fiercely loyal to one therapist.0:40:50 Daniel: Absolutely, and I think that's a good way to approach it. First of all, trust your gut. You've had, whether there was actual manipulation going on or not, whether the therapist was siding with you or not, your experience is real and valid in that moment. There's a lot going on there's trauma, there's hurt, there's confusion. Trust your gut. First of all, trust your gut. And it is scary trying to get, especially if you've had bad experiences like you did with therapists, pose that question, "Do you mind if I look for another therapist for this?"0:41:25 Daniel: And their response I think will be a great indicator of maybe their motivation, or whether or not you should go get another therapist. If they get kind of awkward or embarrassed, or question, "Why would you do that?" Or if they even kind of stonewall in a way, "Well, we have all this history. How are you gonna communicate that history, and how will they follow our treatment plan?" That's a good indicator that you probably should go look a good therapist, like you said, will be totally supportive. Absolutely, go for it. This is your experience, do what you feel is important.0:42:07 Anarie: And I think sometimes, going to another therapist, I know this is sort of a tangent, but it could be motivated by wanting to run away from your current therapist. Maybe they're wanting you to look at some things you don't want to. So that could also be a factor but.0:42:22 Daniel: That is true. That's why it's hard. I think it's important to, kind of a tangent, but kind of not. This is all part of that experience in realizing what's happening here, especially when you have a partner who's manipulating you. Especially if there's been manipulation in the relationship, that therapist should be joining with you and building that trust, right?0:42:43 Anarie: Yeah. Yeah.0:42:46 Daniel: Yes there is a potential that you're running away, but you know what, you get to. You're having this experience and you need to have somebody who can trust you in this experience. And I've had people come back and say, "You know what? I was running away, and I realized that." And I'm putting it into my own words, but eventually he came out and says, "Thank you for letting me do that. I wouldn't have learned this if you prevented me or discouraged me from doing that."0:43:19 Anarie: Yeah.0:43:19 Daniel: And so, you're absolutely right. People are gonna run away when they don't like hearing what they're hearing but part of the experience is supporting that person in that experience, 'cause that's really what you're asking your husband to do, is, "This is scary. You should have been upfront with me from the beginning, regardless of my response. It's scary, I get it, this is scary for me, too. I need you to be open with me just like I should be open with you." And so, great, great. I think that was an important tangent. If we wanna call it a tangent. So...0:43:51 Anarie: One other thing I wanna...0:43:52 Daniel: Go for it.0:43:52 Anarie: Real quick, another part of my recovery over the last four years has been a 12 step program. The one that I have found most supportive was at a Lifeline group. So I did go to some of the LDS church's ARP program, and did not find them to be as supportive as I did the 12 step groups that are done through S.A Lifeline. [0:44:23] ____.0:44:24 Daniel: Oh, no, I think that's important. And if you could boil it down to one or two things. Why was it not as supportive...0:44:32 Anarie: Okay, so I wanna say at first ARP was wonderful, right at first, I'm super grateful that there was a place to go immediately, and that there was a place within a gospel context and within a gospel framework. So I did attend ARP continuously for about six months, and I was grateful for it. It met a need at the time. The biggest thing that I felt was not supportive about ARP, was actually the way that it was structured, that it was, it is missionaries that lead the ARP group, and a lot of them are not sufficiently educated on the topic on what they're dealing with.0:45:10 Daniel: Yeah.0:45:10 Anarie: And a lot of them spent a lot of time sharing. The missionaries would spend time sharing and teaching and lecturing things that were not actually helpful, were inadvertently shaming, and created a lack of safety. Another thing that I saw happen in the ARP group, in recovery there's a real need to give permission for emotion, and for letting your experience be what it is, and for having that experience be validated. And within the context of ARP, often it felt like there were certain emotions that were okay to have, and there certain emotions that were not okay.0:45:53 Anarie: Or that... And boundaries are important in any group, but I felt like there was not adequate space in ARP for anger. I felt like there was a real jump to forgiveness and share positive things and share faith things, faith-promoting things. And there's a place for that, but when you're down on the ground in, especially the immediate aftermath of trauma, there's so much anger and there's so much hurt. And there's, it rocks you spiritually.0:46:25 Anarie: I've gone through times where I don't even believe in God. I feel like, I know my betrayal that I experienced, it ran deep, a lot of it impacted my relationship with God. So there were times when I felt like I couldn't believe in God the way that that group was wanting me to believe in God. So for me it kind of increased the shame.0:46:47 Daniel: That is so...0:46:48 Anarie: Some of my shame experience there. Compared to the S.A Lifeline, where it's more general language, you talk about a higher power. And there I felt so much permission in that group to be wherever I was at, without feeling like I needed to show only the nicer part, or to be immediately jumping to the right way of saying things. If that makes sense?0:47:10 Daniel: I really appreciate you sharing that, about ARP. I think it's a great resource that is offered. I also agree that it's not for everyone, and I will say it's not for most people. I'm gonna say that very carefully for the very reason you've just mentioned. Untrained volunteers who are doing their best but not aware of how a lack of safety is created by reverting to forgiveness versus allowing that anger to be present and understanding how that can be healing in a group of people with a common experience.0:47:55 Anarie: Yeah.0:47:56 Daniel: Thank you so much. I don't wanna come across as criticizing ARP, I think it's a resource, but I think it's just that, a resource.0:48:06 Anarie: Yes, and I was incredibly grateful that it was there for me at the time, and by going there and talking to some of the people in the group, that's how I learned about some of these other resources as well. And I think that the experience in an ARP group it can be heavily dependent on who the missionaries are, and who else is there in the group.0:48:27 Daniel: Absolutely. So let's come... Thank you, I think that was very important. Let's come back around to... You have so much good information, I love it, I absolutely love it, but I'm trying to remember if we actually answered the question. In that three years of going to Lifestar, and these other various treatments, did we see progress in the relationship? What was a result of that?0:48:51 Anarie: Okay, so in terms of our relationship, we did not really, we were not very successful at connecting emotionally, through the three years. At different times we did. And I'm not entirely sure why. I felt like I made lots of individual progress, lots of individual healing and growth. And relationships with family, I saw relationships with my family members and with my friends, radically transforming and changing.0:49:38 Anarie: Within my marriage though, and my relationship with my husband, I was not seeing and experiencing much fundamental change. We were not connecting sexually, we were not connecting emotionally, really, through that process. We were supportive of each other in our individual journeys, but sort of in the same old like logistical business partner-y kind of way that it had been before.0:50:15 Daniel: So you don't want... You don't want a eternal business relationship, you want an eternal marriage.0:50:22 Anarie: Right.0:50:22 Daniel: So...0:50:23 Anarie: And I was... He might say The reason we didn't have a sexual relationship was because of my boundaries, and I would say, "Well my boundaries were where they were because there was still no emotional safety." I wasn't feeling... I didn't have trust restored, in like, I believe his disclosure was honest. I think I do.0:50:54 Daniel: You mean the disclosure in Phase One, or Phase Two?0:50:57 Anarie: The formal disclosure.0:51:00 Daniel: Okay.0:51:00 Anarie: Yeah, and I appreciated him sharing that. And immediately after there was some connection. He supposedly was able to achieve sobriety really early in the program. So a lot of times during the process of Lifestar, there's opportunity to work on conversation about experiences of pornography and slips, and disclosing that and working through that. And because he was so immediately sober, we didn't have much of that. So, I don't know.0:51:34 Daniel: So Tell me a little bit more about that. I think that's important for the audience to hear, now quite a few episodes are available with my podcast. What is sobriety when we talk about sobriety? And it may sound like a stupid question, and you may be familiar with the way I've tried to define it, and explain what is pornography. So how did they measure that for the sake of the listener Sometimes the definition around pornography could be anything that could potentially lead to something more severe, for example, maybe looking at in a lingerie or Instagram or something like that. So how was... Did Lifestar create some sort of definition, or was this an agreed-upon sobriety? How did that get decided and navigated?0:52:25 Anarie: So, for us in Lifestar there, I think there was a certain expectation in the group of what sobriety is, which is not actively seeking out pornographic images or sexual stimulation, things that with... Because with the addiction model the addicts are turning to that as a way to medicate their feelings, and so it was a... They weren't sober if they actively went after something that would give them their sexual hits. So if they were searching for pornographic images, or...0:53:07 Daniel: Of any kind?0:53:08 Anarie: Of any kind. Or... I believe a lot of people in my husband's group, and I think in 12 steps as well, sort of had a 10-second fantasy rule, that if they engaged in fantasy for more than 10 seconds then that was considered a slip.0:53:31 Daniel: Okay.0:53:33 Anarie: Or they needed to share that with their stuff.0:53:36 Daniel: That's a pretty short, short window in reality.0:53:40 Anarie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.0:53:40 Daniel: But I actually like that concept because it's actually encouraging self-awareness. You're not penalized or you're not viewed, whether by your group yourself or whomever, as back to zero again because, oh, my goodness, my mind went into an automatic thought process, and now I have to... It seems impossible, but that self-awareness or that time allows you to become more, "Oh, my goodness, that's what's happening. Okay, I still have time to recover." And not have to count that as, "Oh, excellent, great." So he was basing sobriety, supposedly off of that.0:54:22 Anarie: Masturbation as well. No masturbation, no self-stimulation.0:54:26 Daniel: Got it.0:54:28 Anarie: But really, so much of it was about the lying. So no... And with my experience with my friends on the betrayal side of it, so much of it was about the lying and the hiding. So yes, it would hurt if there was a slip, but it in a way, it was almost healing to have those slips shared, 'cause then we were being let into that world, and we were a part of it.0:54:58 Daniel: So this is what's... What's really interesting to me, and not a criticism, 'cause I... Well, at least I like to think I understand the human behavior side of it, but now you've gotten at least, you're past phase one, into phase two, the disclosure has been made, you've had a ton of psychoeducation about what these patterns are like, and now creating this environment of trust where he can disclose to you. And you're actually finding healing from it. It feels, "Oh my goodness. You're open with me." Why would he hold that back? If you've made this success... Again, I know I'm asking you to kinda interpret from his experience.0:55:39 Anarie: Yeah, I'm not sure.0:55:41 Daniel: Okay.0:55:41 Anarie: I have wondered if shame... Just using the sexual addiction model, as like these behaviors are bad, coming from that background of these are bad and shameful, by disclosing, it's, I'm showing you again that I'm shameful.0:56:03 Daniel: For those who keep hearing the phrase, "sex addiction model", just to provide a little bit more clarity here, there are different theoretical approaches to treating sexual behavior. And one of them is what is being referred to here as this sex addiction model, which is places like Lifestar and other organizations, believe in treating this behavior. And you're bringing up an interesting point here, is even though the sex addiction model was very enlightening to you, it helped you as an individual. You made a comment about how it might have been reinforcing the shame. Is that what I heard?0:56:44 Anarie: Yeah. Yeah, I'm not sure if it was ideal scenario for him.0:56:51 Daniel: Can you say more about that?0:56:55 Anarie: Just because I feel like all through the recovery there was too much fear around it. Even if it was trying to be normalized, and other people struggle with this, I still feel like there was not an acknowledgement of how normal pornography use is. And I feel like there was still a lot of fear around it, and a lot of labeling of it as being bad and wrong, and...0:57:37 Daniel: So it...0:57:37 Anarie: It itself was still demonized a lot. Even if there was work done to navigate shame, like education about what role it's serving, and choosing more appropriate ways to meet some of those needs, it was still coming from this premise of, the pornography and the masturbation in and of itself is bad and wrong and... Yeah.0:58:11 Daniel: Yeah, well that makes sense. So, what I think I'm hearing here is, even though you've had this psycho-education, you're having this great support network, you're getting the resources you need for both of you and your relationship, there's a possibility that same treatment method was also reinforcing more fear. And so, even though he knew he could reveal to you, and that could be an opportunity for success and recovery, acknowledging that you slipped up again, you are now taking on all these...0:58:46 Anarie: Yeah, it still made him look like the bad guy.0:58:48 Daniel: Very much so. Again, not minimizing the seriousness of it, or giving him an excuse here, but the reality is, is when we demonize the use we then become and identify with that demon, so to speak. Right?0:59:05 Anarie: Yeah.0:59:05 Daniel: And so being able to acknowledge that even though you know you've done it, wow, that could really feed into, not only his fear, but your fear. What does it mean? You did this again. Who are you? Is that what I'm hearing?0:59:18 Anarie: Yeah, yeah. There in... I quite often heard it like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. There's the addict self and the true self. And I think there's some truth to that, and I also think it's problematic and was harmful, for both of us, to turn it into a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde type of scenario. Because I believe it's more integrated.0:59:45 Daniel: This is an experience that I hear so many have, where they finally get the... I thought it was beautiful the way you described it, is they provided resources and information that resonated with you perfectly, things made sense. And your personal journey, you felt like you were getting the right support, the right help, he was being held responsible in the right way to divulge his information and his struggles. While you have this great resource, you're also seeing how it was problematic. What is...1:00:22 Anarie: Yeah, look... Oh sorry, go ahead.1:00:24 Daniel: No, absolutely, go ahead.1:00:26 Anarie: I was just gonna say, looking back there, we're dealing with a sexual issue, pornography, his masturbation, sexual addiction, but there was not much information given in our program about healthy sexuality...1:00:42 Daniel: Bingo.1:00:42 Anarie: About normal sexual development. And I know normal's a relative term, but human sexual development, there was not much information about that. Even with disclosure, hearing about a lot of the forms of acting out that he used, I still, during my time in recovery, there was so much fear that there was never really any normalization of some of those kinds of behaviors. So I would hear that he'd done this type of pornography that, to me, was extra scary and extra bad. And there was never any space to put that in a less terrifying way.1:01:30 Daniel: I think that's huge, and I think that's a thing that's missed in all treatment. Well, not all treatment, but a majority of treatment. Even in those clinics that are, like Lifestar, who are phenomenal at what they do, we focus on what not to do, right? But we don't actually explore and understand from a expert point of view, of what healthy sexual behavior looks like. We have these assumptions, but those assumptions aren't necessarily true, or need further expanding on.1:02:06 Daniel: But I also, what you said there was, the type of pornography, and there's huge misunderstandings around this. Pop-psychology, a lot of the predominant resources out there teach this idea that it's escalative behavior, and that is... There's very, very little support for that, in that somebody who's looking up maybe bondage type of pornography, or something very serious, or is perceived as something more serious than another, then that creates this whole new treatment model or severity around the person. Or there's something more sickening about the person, which is, again, problematic and not supported in treatment or in science. But you started to notice that.1:02:54 Anarie: Yeah. I feel like I needed to have my experience validated, so I was coming at it from a place of a lot of fear.1:03:03 Daniel: Of course.1:03:03 Anarie: In fact, it was really scary for me to listen to his disclosure. I had never watched a rated R movie myself at that time, and so to learn about these sexual behaviors and these kinds of pornography, that was a really scary thing for me, to have to learn about those things. And it was helpful for me to have others validate how scary and how much fear there was in that. At the same time, I feel like there could have been... I could have been validated in my fearful approach to it, and a more balanced view could have also been presented a little bit sooner, so my narrative could have been validated and some reframes could have been offered more.1:03:51 Daniel: So what would you recommend to somebody who's in your position, situation rather, and they're struggling with a similar behavior, their spouse is hiding, and you're seeking treatment? How would you... I guess what I'm asking is, What would you do different?1:04:11 Anarie: Or what would I do the same? What would I...1:04:13 Daniel: Oh yeah, fair, fair.1:04:14 Anarie: Recommend for someone in that place?1:04:16 Daniel: Yes.1:04:17 Anarie: For me, getting support from others and moving out of isolation, is so so scary. So wherever you can start to get that support from. For me, looking back, I have felt some like, "Oh, maybe we should have gone to a different program. Maybe if we would have found a better therapist." Or, "I should have not gone to ARP first, I should have... " It's really easy to get into some of that. But any support, any... Reach out to the people around you, look for the best resources that applaud any steps out of isolation, any effort to express your experience and get support. And permission to experience what you're experiencing, to feel what you're feeling.1:05:09 Anarie: However you're coming at it from, whatever you feel about it, those things are valid, and there's a place for it, and you don't need to feel ashamed for the way that you're experiencing it. So you... I heard a lot of messages about how betrayed spouses need to respond right to disclosure. So, if you freak out, they're not gonna share with you in the future. But... And there's truth to that. At the same time, when you're in fresh trauma it makes sense that you freak out and that you can't hold space for yourself the way that you might be able to further down the road. So, I guess just permission to be where you're at when you're there.1:05:57 Daniel: I really appreciate that insight right there. I will often... If we discover that disclosure has to be made, I can't tell you how valuable it is to, depending on which partner it is, in this case let's say the husband, pulling them aside, meeting with them individually and coaching them through this. "Look, it's gonna be rough. You don't try to manage your wife's feelings and emotions at all. Let her experience it. This is about revealing, building trust, and she gets to have her emotions just like you do. In this experience, allow her to be. In fact, encourage it." But that's, I think... Oh, that's a big one. Thank you for bringing that up.1:06:47 Anarie: And that is something I felt Lifestar did a really good job, of giving space for the betrayed partner to have their experience, for their trauma to be validated. And to expect that the addicted spouse needed to find support elsewhere, and that the betrayed person can't... You want to come together as a couple to address the issue together, but for a time maybe you can't do that. You need outside support, outside people. So...1:07:23 Daniel: Absolutely, so you now are divorced. It's been how long since the separation?1:07:27 Anarie: Four months since it was finalized, a year since we separated.1:07:29 Daniel: Four months. Alright. And do you feel like you're in a better place now?1:07:34 Anarie: I do, yeah.1:07:37 Daniel: Well, Anarie...1:07:39 Anarie: And I'm hopeful that he is as well, and that he will be.1:07:46 Daniel: Well, it sounds like you're making some important decisions to move forward, and that healing is occurring. And I can't tell you how much I personally appreciate you coming on here and sharing your information with everyone else. I can't tell you...1:08:00 Anarie: Well, I hope that it can be helpful. There was so much... Shame thrives in believing that you're the only one. And for so long I believed that I was the only one, or one of only a few. And particularly the sexless nature of my marriage didn't match a lot of what I heard about other...1:08:21 Daniel: No.1:08:22 Anarie: Addicted people. And I think that was part of what was so distressing too, it seemed to not fit. And since recovery I've found, no there are others who are experiencing this dynamic of being married to someone who's acting out sexually while having a sexless marriage and sexless relationship. And so, for a long time I was even nervous to tell other people in my recovery circle about what kind of sexless marriage I'd had because often I was in a minority. So, for that reason I wanna share my story because I know now that I'm not the only person experiencing that kind of dynamic.1:09:03 Daniel: It's so much more common then people realize.1:09:04 Anarie: And when you... When you feel like it's just you, when you feel shame for your shameful experience, it's just so much more painful. So I know now that I'm not the only one experiencing that, so I wanna share that so that others can know as well, that this is part of the experience too.1:09:24 Daniel: I could assure you, the people listening right now are comforted by that comment. You did mention one other thing, before we go. I can't remember if we were personally talking about it offline or if it was at the beginning. You said one of the concerns, or... And maybe you have addressed it in a round about way. But one of the concerns you had about this treatment process, just the whole process I guess, was, yes, you got solutions, you got treatment plans for the porn and sexual behaviors, but some of the underlining issues weren't addressed.1:10:02 Anarie: Yes.1:10:02 Daniel: Do you mind talking about that for a second?1:10:04 Anarie: Yeah. So, in terms of our relationship and what was actually going on in our relationship, I feel like the pornography was a symptom of other things that were going on. So in spending a couple of years honing in specifically on pornography, and the pornography use, and regulating and learning about that, it took a couple of years before we started actually looking at more of our relationship dynamics, that were actually more of our problem. And it's linked, so it's not like... Okay.1:10:50 Anarie: But in a way I feel like the focus on the pornography use was able to feed... We almost... It started to become a part of some of our underlying issues. We almost used it in old unhealthy ways. So, in terms of what the underlying issue was, there was some control and power manipulation, lying, unhealthy shame management, enmeshment, differentiation issues, sexual shame, repressed sexuality. Some of those things... We spent so much time on the regulating sobriety and porn behaviors that by the time we started actually getting to the real meat of stuff, it took a couple of years.1:11:48 Daniel: Which is absolutely a case I see quite frequently here. We may resolve the pornography, the addictive behaviors, but when that's gone what happens is exactly what you described. You're going to this, you're healing, but where's the connection? The absence of porn and undesired sexual behaviors does not create connection.1:12:16 Anarie: Yes, yes, yes. [chuckle]1:12:18 Daniel: Right?1:12:19 Anarie: Yeah. Yep.1:12:19 Daniel: And so, this is an element that is always... Again, I'm using always. Not always the case. Is too often overlooked, because we do, we make the symptom, which is the pornography, the problem. And we think if we get rid of the problem, which is actually just the symptom... There's clearly something else going on here with the constant manipulation. And unfortunately, the way... The addiction model, or pop psychology, whatever we wanna refer to it or blame it on, tells us that manipulation is a result from the escalating behavior. Well, we're finding that it's actually an underlying issue that's unresolved and not treated. And then the pornography, in a sense, becomes yet another form of manipulation to cover that real problem. It's this benign tumor that just is hidden somewhere we can't find it. Right?1:13:17 Anarie: Yes. And pornography addiction recovery can, in a sense, end up being used as a tool of manipulation.1:13:25 Daniel: Yes.1:13:25 Anarie: And, there was something I was gonna say. I can't remember.1:13:33 Daniel: Now, if it comes back to you feel free to jump in.1:13:36 Anarie: Sorry. [chuckle]1:13:36 Daniel: But I think that you hit... I think one of the biggest takeaways from this is not to neglect the... We focus too often on getting rid of something. I phrase it... You went to treatment at the beginning, no one talked about pornography, and then you went to Lifestar where pornography was finally talked about, but yet connection wasn't addressed. If there was some way that we can address both the undesired behavior and the desired behavior... And in my practice, I always say, "Let's focus on the desired outcome. What is the desired outcome? Okay, you're using pornography right now, the desired outcome isn't just to stop that.1:14:20 Daniel: The desired outcome is, "I wanna feel closer to you, I wanna feel connection. Okay, even if you saw some pornography today, I still wanna come home and have a meaningful discussion with you, I wanna have meaningful sex, I wanna feel close to you. If that means getting rid of the pornography, great. If it means we need to understand how to communicate better, let's do that too." And it sounds like that was an element that was missed, at least in your experience.1:14:52 Anarie: Yeah, and it was talked about, and I... Connection, the opposite of addiction is not sobriety, it's connection. That's a phrase that I heard a lot in recovery. So there was a lot of talk about connection.1:15:06 Daniel: Yeah, but we're discovering, it sounds like you did too... And forgive me, I'm not trying to put words in your mouth at all. Is the absence of the addiction doesn't re-result in connection.1:15:18 Anarie: Yes, yeah, yeah.1:15:19 Daniel: So we talk about it a lot, but we don't actually, I think, create a treatment plan around that and try to improve it.1:15:27 Anarie: Yeah. And I do wanna say that I am grateful that pornography... Because pornography was labelled as an issue, as a problematic thing, it gave a doorway into some therapy and some information that was incredibly helpful. So I am grateful that there was this issue and there are these programs that help, that were able to catch me and help me get directed into some real therapeutic help.1:16:00 Daniel: Absolutely. Well, you've given us so, so much to think about here. And I know it may sound redundant, but I'm gonna ask again, any final thoughts or things you wanna leave us with?1:16:13 Anarie: I do wanna share just some of the things beyond betrayal trauma that I needed to learn, and that were an important part of my recovery, and my process of learning how to be a healthy individual in a healthier relationship. Because there were definitely

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Young professionals today are super brave. We move across cities, states, and even oceans - [Julia] This rural mission is brought to you by Michigan State University College of Human Medicine Leadership and Rural Medicine programs. The podcast is funded in part by a generous grant provided by the Herbert H. and Grace A. Dow Foundation. To learn more about the Leadership in Rural Medicine programs, please visit www.msururalhealth.chm.msu.edu. I'm your host, Julia Terhune, and stay tuned for more from this Rural Mission. (bluegrass music) -[Julia] Hello, and welcome back to another episode of this Rural Mission, brought to you by Michigan State University College of Human Medicine. Today we're going to take a little bit of a different route. Today we're going to talk about what it means to be brave. That might seem like a really different topic. Typically we talk about rural health disparities or we talk about social issues in rural America and now we're going to talk about bravery? Well, hear me out for a second We do a lot of brave things in our lives. Some of us move overseas, some of us go out of state to a brand new place to get an education or change jobs and all of those things, every single one of them is extremely brave and courageous, but there's something else that's just as brave and that's going back. Going back to that small town that you grew up in, going back to the place you said you would never return to. (electric guitar music) We're going to talk to a number of people today. Some of the people that we talk to are planning to return to their small town after they graduate. Some are already returning to their small town to get an education, and some swore they would never, ever return but have made a career out of their small town. I encourage you to stay tuned and hear more from this Rural Mission. We've got an interesting road ahead and I'm excited for you to see how brave you really have to be to go back. Daniel Drake, soon to be Dr. Daniel Drake, is a Rural Community Health Program student at the Midland Regional campus. - [Daniel] I mean, I grew up in Caro and Caro is a relatively small town. And so I went up to the UP and I was at Michigan Tech. No one in my family is a physician, no one had gone to a four-year university at all. So I was kind of figuring it all out on my own and when I was at Tech, I heard about an early assurance program that Michigan state did and you took your MCAT early and applied early and so I think I found out it was 2012 when I found out that I was going to go to Michigan State for my medical school. - [Paula] So I'm Paula Klose and I am a family physician, I'm a graduate of Michigan State College of Human Medicine and I trained in the Upper Peninsula campus for my clinical years. - [Daniel] I have always kind of known that I wanted to do rural health, that was always my big thing. Being from a small town, going to undergrad in a small town where I knew I wanted to practice rurally. - [Paula] I wanted to work in a rural community, I wanted to live in a log cabin that I built by hand (laughs). And so when I was applying to medical schools, I chose Michigan State College of Medicine because of the Upper Peninsula medical education program. - [Daniel] With R-CHP, the rural community health program, Midland has a site for that in Pigeon. - [Paula] For the past, let's see, six years, I have been involved with Michigan State again and was asked to be the community assistant dean for the Midland Regional campus. - [Daniel] In Pigeon, it is near the tip of the thumb and Huron County, not far from my hometown at all and it was a place that I was familiar with. I was like, it would be really exiting to go back and just be able to actually practice clinical medicine up there. - [Julia] You grew up here too, didn't you? - [Paula] Yes, yeah. I wasn't born here, but my dad worked for Dow Chemical and never thought I would end up back here again. Pictured myself living in the UP, practicing. And so I was going to use the Midland family medicine residency as a practice interview. So I came down, interviewed with the program, actually learned more about the program than I had known and loved it and so ended up ranking them first and matched (laughs). And so, the rest of the story. - [Daniel] For me, if you would have asked me three years ago or four years ago before I started, I would have told you I will never go back to the farm. I would have said I don't want to go back. - [Paula] So I was not going to live in Midland, Michigan. I was going to live in that little community (laughs), but loved my partners, and my practice, and my patients and it's really an excellent hospital system to work in, so I ended up staying here raising my kids. - [Daniel] As I've gone through this, the training, as I've had kids, it's really dawned on me the importance of community and family. But here in a city, there can still be some anonymity with how you're treating patients, right? Like, you blend into the crowd of a couple other. Couple other. A huge group of doctors. A rural area, if you go back, you might be the only doctor in that town. - [Paula] As I started residency and I had a panel of patients, all the sudden my panel was full of nurses I worked with, friends, friends' parents, colleagues of my father (laughs). So you get into this role that has all these multifaceted dimensions, right? I was also the first female primary care physician in Midland and I had overwhelming interest in being part of my practice. - [Daniel] so your reputation is really on the line and I think that to go into a situation like that, I think that takes bravery. - [Paula] As a woman in medicine in a smaller community, you're already a leader of sorts, so some of that came with the position and the same thing with my position as community assistant dean, you know, that's what I am and I represent the health system as well as the college, so that's challenges. I wouldn't say that it was bravery, but it was a challenge. - [Daniel] I honestly look forward to it though. I think that's also one of the strongest things about practicing rural medicine and one of the biggest benefits about it is the fact that you can really carry a community and help them out and I don't know, I just love that idea.   (acoustic guitar music) - [Julia] The voices that you're hearing in this segment are of Ali Hoppy, Elana Rosmussen, and Kala Yob. All three are premed undergraduate students from Michigan. All three of them have something else in common. They all participated in Michigan State University's Rural Premedical Internship Program in the summer of 2016. I'll be telling you more about the Rural Premedical Internship Program or the RPIP program I just a bit, but before I do, let's talk a little bit about what it means to be brave. Ali, Elana, and Kala talk a little bit about that. All three of them have spent time overseas. - [Ali] I went to Ghana the summer of 2015, so after my freshman year of college. - [Julia] So you were 19? - [Ali] Yes, 19. - [Elana] I went to Australia for six weeks. - [Kala] I studied abroad in Segovia, Spain. - [Julia] And how long were you there? - [Kala] For two months. (acoustic guitar music) - [Ali] Ghana more picked me. I grew up in a very small town in the thumb. Rural Michigan. My senior year in high school, unfortunately got a phone call one morning that my oldest brother Josh has been killed in a car accident. My brother, he was a high school teacher. He left a legacy through a lot of people in the way he lived his life. I heard of this trip to Ghana and I just wanted to go. I didn't have any real reason behind it. I just wanted to go and touch as many lives. I saw how short how lives can be but how much you can do in that short time. I just hopped on the plane and went to Ghana. - [Julia] Yet when I ask them what they would rather do, get on a plane and go back to those foreign lands or apply to medical school, I wasn't surprised with the answers that I received. When you think about hopping on a plane and going back to Spain or applying to medical school, which scares you more? - [Kala] Applying to medical school (laughs). - [Ali] Ghana, jumping on a plane, going to Ghana, was hands down less terrifying than filling out a medical school application.   - [Elana] I know that I can do it, but I have a hard time with that, getting from there to expressing that to somebody else, I have a hard time with. So I have a really big concern for that part as far as applying for medical school, but I know that once I get in, I'm really excited for that next step, but I'm excited to actually be there and be with the people that have that same feeling that I have a hard time explaining (laughs). - [Kala] I just noticed through this whole process how much of a well-rounded person you need to be and I guess in a small town it's like, that's not the focus. It's just kind of survive, get through, and do your best and then in a small town, it's easy to stand out (laughs) because there's less people and then once you get to the medical school process, you need to know how to stand out, you need to know how to be different. (acoustic guitar music) - [Julia] Dr. Mower is the assistant dean of admissions at Michigan State University College of Human Medicine. Michigan State University College of Human Medicine has had a significant devotion to underserved populations since its foundation in 1964. We were the very first community-based medical education program and we're pretty proud of that. Dr. Mower is responsible for making sure that we are not only admitting the best potential doctors, but that we are also admitting students who are diverse and have altruistic reasons for going into medicine. We want students to return to underserved communities, specifically rural communities, and Dr. Mower has some real concerns about how students get their medical education and where they go when they're done practicing because that's also very important. (piano music) - [Dr. Mower] I think we're a medical school that takes its mission seriously. I think we bring a lot of people in who have a lot of ideals and hopes, and ideas of how they want to serve in the medical field. And so, I mean, I just think that there has to be more, I mean if we're going to be serious about this, I think we have to figure out a way to capture these kids before they show up on our doorstep and we have to figure out a way to continue to monitor and mentor them once they walk away, particularly if it's a student who has identified him or herself as having a strong interest in serving an underserved area, whether that be rural, whether that be intercity, urban, whether that be migrant healthcare, LGBT health care, international developing country health care. I mean, we need to figure out a way to continue to follow and mentor these graduates, even though they are under the direct tutelage of perhaps somebody else right now. - [Julia] Dr. Mower's concern for having a place for rural students before medical school, during medical school, and after medical school is a significant concern and something that should be taken very seriously and we have. Dr. Andrea Wendling has been running the rural premedical Internship Program for several years now. It's a place, a place for rural students to learn more about getting into medical school and to help them feel more confident and prepared. And Dr. Wendling is reaching her goals for this program. Let's just return for one moment back to Elana, Ali, and Kala. Hear what they have to say about returning to their rural community, even though they have gone on to do amazing things both in the state of Michigan and abroad. - [Julia] Why, why rural? I know you said that there's a need, but I mean, you're living in East Lansing, you lived in all these big cities, I mean, why go back? - [Elana] It's the whole package that is really appealing to me. I like the idea of going home. I belong there, I don't belong here in East Lansing. It's just a feeling, I know it. - [Ali] I love my rural community, but for people that have grown up rural, you know when you're there that you're ready to go see something new because you don't know the uniqueness and the specialness of the place you live until you leave it. Going to Grand Valley was amazing for me because it really taught me how much I had back home and how unique and special those small communities are. - [Kala] So yeah, I'm really excited to come here and to practice one day and to be that extra resource for people. And not only to help them, but to have known where they come from. - [Ali] And I was so excited to learn that that's something that you can actually specifically pursue and there's people out there that can help you make that happen and know how to make that happen because when I came into this and I've known that I wanted to go to medical school for a long time, but when I came into it, I thought that I was going to have to establish myself in an urban area to gain the training and stuff. I didn't realize that there was an option to directly go to the rural setting and just learn there, start there, and continue on there. (piano music) - [Julia] I get it, we all want to make an impact, we all want to do really brave and courageous things that last a lifetime and even longer. That's the reason why we go to school, that's the reason why we move places, that's the reason why we work. We want to do great things in the time that we have and I'm not saying that going overseas and going to a new land, or starting over in a brand new place isn't brave or courageous or impactful. I think that there are lots of people that have done amazing things by stepping way out of their comfort zone. What I'm actually saying is that going back is just as courageous. Go back and work at your local hospital making sure that hiring processes are up to federal standards for diversity and inclusion. Go become a teacher back at your hometown, go serve the geriatric community as a doctor, a nurse, or a physical therapist. Go back, do great things with the time that you have in a community that you know and love. In my opinion, that's just as brave. Normally, I end with some music, but today I'm going to end with a poem. In Defense of Small Towns by Oliver De La Paz. When I look at it, it's simple, really. I hated life there.   September, once filled with animal deaths and toughened hay. And the smells of fall were boiled-down beets and potatoes or the farmhands' breeches smeared with oil and diesel as they rode into town, dusty and pissed. The radio station split time between metal and Tejano, and the only action happened on Friday nights where the high school football team gave everyone a chance at forgiveness. The town left no room for novelty or change. The sheriff knew everyone's son and despite that, we'd cruise up and down the avenues, switching between brake and gearshift. We'd fight and spit chew into Big Gulp cups and have our hearts broken nightly. In that town I learned to fire a shotgun at nine and wring a chicken's neck with one hand by twirling the bird and whipping it straight like a towel. But I loved the place once. Everything was blonde and cracked and the irrigation ditches stretched to the end of the earth. You could ride on a bicycle and see clearly the outline of every leaf or catch on the streets each word of a neighbor's argument. Nothing could happen there and if I willed it, the place would have me slipping over its rocks into the river with the sugar plant's steam or signing papers at a storefront army desk, buttoned up with medallions and a crew cut, eyeing the next recruits. If I've learned anything, it's that I could be anywhere, staring at a hunk of asphalt or listening to the clap of billiard balls against each other in a bar and hear my name. Indifference now? Some. I shook loose, but that isn't the whole story. The fact is I'm still in love. And when I wake up, I watch my son yawn, and my mind turns his upswept hair into cornstalks at the edge of a field. Stillness is an acre, and his body idles, deep like heavy machinery. I want to take him back there, to the small town of my youth and hold the book of wildflowers open for him, and look. I want him to know the colors of horses, to run with a cattail in his hand and watch as its seeds fly weightless as though nothing mattered, as though the little things we tell ourselves about our pasts stay there, rising slightly and just out of reach. Oliver De La Paz is an associate professor of English at College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, Massachusetts. I want to thank him sincerely for letting us read his poem on this Rural Mission. You can find more of his poems at www.oliverdelapaz.com. (acoustic guitar music) ♫ When I turn to little town Thank you again for listening to this Rural Mission. It's an honor and a privilege to get to produce this podcast. Each topic is more interesting and I get to interview some of the most intelligent and intriguing people. I want to thank some of those people. I want to thank Dr. Mower and Dr. Klose for taking time out of their schedules to speak with me. I also want to thank Dan Drake. Dan Drake is a fourth-year medical student and will be graduating in May. I'm really proud of the things that he's accomplished and he's been an outstanding student and a fantastic person to get to know. I want to thank three student-to-be doctors if everything. I want to thank the three R-PIPe students that I spoke to today, Ali Hoppy, Elana Rosmussen, and Kala Yob. It was great to get to work with them this summer and it was even more fun to get to know them a little bit more through this interview. As always, a sincere thanks to Dr. Andrea Wendling, the Director of Rural Community Health at Michigan State University College of Human Medicine. This podcast would not be possible without her and she is a physician who also moved away and went back. She didn't go back to her hometown, but she went back to her husband's hometown and has worked as a rural family medicine doctor for a number of years. Her contribution to rural medicine, again, is also clinical and academic, much like Dr. Klose's and she does fantastic things to make sure that rural medical students are represented in medical education, specifically at MSU. Thank you to everyone and I hope you join us again next time for more from this Rural Mission. ♫ Picking up the pieces ♫ Of where I should have been ♫ And if you see Michigan State University has been devoted to recruiting, training, and retaining doctors in rural communities for over 40 years. We started in 1974 with the Rural Physicians Program up in Marquette, Michigan and we've expanded with the Rural Community Health Program down into the Lower Peninsula through the Midland Regional Campus and the Traverse City Regional campus. For several years now, Dr. Andrea Wending has been running the Rural Premedical Internship Program or the RPIP program. This program works with undergraduate students who are interested in pursuing medicine as their career. The program preference is premed undergraduate students who are from a rural community or have a significant devotion to a rural community. We run the program every summer and students are accepted through an application process. If you are interested in the Rural Premedical Internship Program, please visit our website at www.msururalhealth.chm.msu.edu. There you can find out more about the program, its requirements, and even apply. ♫ When I close my eyes and pray ♫ The song's rapt hold and wouldn't let go ♫ Until we went our separate ways ♫ Oh little town oh town ♫ I'm on your streets again ♫ Picking up the pieces ♫ Of where I should have been ♫ And if you see the side of me ♫ That brings me to your door ♫ Then hold me little town ♫ And if you see the side of me ♫ That brings me to your door ♫ Then hold me little town Please visit our website at www.msururalhealth.chm.msu.edu. By joining our website, you could connect to us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. You can also find out more about our musician. Music today was provided by Horton Creek and Bryan Eggers, a local musician and Michigan native. We hope you tune in next time to hear more from this Rural Mission. to live up to our potential and make a positive impact on our world. Moving back to that small town that you swore you would never return to can also be a very brave thing to do. Think about it... Make a name for yourself in a completely new city? Or try to convince your high school English teacher that you are capable of managing their healthcare? For the students and doctors we are talking to on this episode, that is exactly what they've done! We also highlight a program that has been helping rural undergraduate premedical students matriculate into medical school and live out these brave, brave career choices.  

Interview with Daniel Forè, Creator of elementary OS

Part two of our special recording session with Daniel Foré, Cassidy James Blaede, and Blake Kostner. We sit down for a retrospective look at the Loki release, chat about our favorite features, and discuss some of the reviews. Join us for a final celebration of Loki!

On this episode we are joined by Daniel Foré, Cassidy James Blaede, and Blake Kostner as we learn the name of the next release of elementary OS! We also chat about what some of the potential plans are for the upcoming release and what the developers will be focusing on, discuss the new project-centric features at GitHub and whether the team might want to switch, and mull over a switch from Ubuntu to another base and whether or not it would ever make sense. All that, and much more, on this episode. See the full shownotes (including all the links) at simplyelementary.net.

On this episode we celebrate the recent Loki beta release by chatting with several key developers of elementary OS. Find out more about Houston, learn about the decision to switch to Epiphany, and hear the reasoning behind some of the more controversial changes in the release as the guests answers the questions that YOU submitted. Big thanks to Daniel Foré, Blake Kostner, Lewis Goddard, and Felipe Escoto for joining us for the show!

Daniel Foré and Cassidy James join us for a quick segment about their upcoming trip to SCALE. Listen to find out what the expo is all about and what the elementary team hopes to accomplish there. If you're near Pasadena this weekend, January 21-24, make sure to stop by the elementary booth, and use the code ELMNT for half off your entry into the expo!

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Daniel 6:19-27 19 Then, at break of day, the king got up and hurried to the den of lions.20When he came near the den where Daniel was, he cried out anxiously to Daniel, ‘O Daniel, servant of the living God, has your God whom you faithfully serve been able to deliver you from the lions?’21Daniel then said to the king, ‘O king, live for ever!22My God sent his angel and shut the lions’ mouths so that they would not hurt me, because I was found blameless before him; and also before you, O king, I have done no wrong.’23Then the king was exceedingly glad and commanded that Daniel be taken up out of the den. So Daniel was taken up out of the den, and no kind of harm was found on him, because he had trusted in his God.24The king gave a command, and those who had accused Daniel were brought and thrown into the den of lions—they, their children, and their wives. Before they reached the bottom of the den the lions overpowered them and broke all their bones in pieces. 25 Then King Darius wrote to all peoples and nations of every language throughout the whole world: ‘May you have abundant prosperity!26I make a decree, that in all my royal dominion people should tremble and fear before the God of Daniel: For he is the living God, enduring for ever. His kingdom shall never be destroyed, and his dominion has no end. 27 He delivers and rescues, he works signs and wonders in heaven and on earth; for he has saved Daniel from the power of the lions.’

Daniel 8:15-27  Even back in the Old Testament, Scripture talks about Antichrist: a powerful, persuasive individual that will rise up to deceive the human race and oppose the things of God. Here in Daniel 8, he seems to be the vicious Antiochus IV of the 2nd Century BC. But he's just a shadow of the real thing to come! Let's take a look... From the series by Pastor Rod Schorr: The Book of Daniel: For the Lions in Your Den

Daniel chapter 7 In his vision that night, Daniel saw a 'churning sea', and can you think of a better word to describe ourown generation today? Everywhere we look, things are 'churning' and so are we! But God gave this vision to Daniel to comfort him, not alarm him; and it will do the same for us. This is the full recording of Pastor Rod Schorr's message, from the series: The Book of Daniel: For the Lions In Your Den.

Daniel 6: 1-13 "As long as there is one upright man, the scene is never desolate."  But this morning things do look pretty bleak! All the rulers in the kingdom of Persia have turned against Daniel; he is utterly alone. But there's a lot to learn from a lonely righteous man. Let's take advantage of it today... Part 1 of Pastor Schorr's message from the series on the Book of Daniel: For the Lions In Your Den

Daniel 5: 17-31   There's an old anonymous adage that goes: "It is pride that takes a country down." How very true! Pride is the ultimate conqueror of lands and kingdoms! The signs of God's judgment against human pride are all over the place. And here in our text, I see four in particular... Part 1 of Pastor Rod Schorr's sermon from the series on the Book of Daniel: For the Lions in Your Den.

Daniel 5: 17-31   There's an old anonymous adage that goes: "It is pride that takes a country down." How very true! Pride is the ultimate conqueror of lands and kingdoms! The signs of God's judgment against human pride are all over the place. And here in our text, I see four in particular... Part 2 of Pastor Rod Schorr's sermon from the series on the Book of Daniel: For the Lions in Your Den.

Daniel 5: 1-17 "There is no more mistaken path to happiness than worldliness and revelry," writes Schopenhauer. Well, our Scriptures begin with great 'revelry' today, and the outcome will not be a happy one. And what a picture of our own generation we find on this page of our Bible this morning.  Part 2 of Pastor Rod Schorr's message from the Series: "The Book of Daniel: For the Lions In Your Den"

Daniel 5: 1-17 "There is no more mistaken path to happiness than worldliness and revelry," writes Schopenhauer. Well, our Scriptures begin with great 'revelry' today, and the outcome will not be a happy one. And what a picture of our own generation we find on this page of our Bible this morning.  Part 1 of Pastor Rod Schorr's message from the Series: "The Book of Daniel: For the Lions In Your Den"

Daniel 4:28-37 "Force without wisdom always falls of its own weight," someone once wisely observed. We've seen it time and again: the fall of Rome, the fall of great tyrants, the fall of the Soviet Union. This morning, we diagnose the downfall of King Nebuchadnezzar. Perhaps it will help us 'stand' in the end!'  Part 1 of Pastor Schorr's sermon from the series: The Book of Daniel: For the Lions in Your Den

Daniel 4:28-37 "Force without wisdom always falls of its own weight," someone once wisely observed. We've seen it time and again: the fall of Rome, the fall of great tyrants, the fall of the Soviet Union. This morning, we diagnose the downfall of King Nebuchadnezzar. Perhaps it will help us 'stand' in the end!'  Part 2 of Pastor Schorr's sermon from the series: The Book of Daniel: For the Lions in Your Den

Daniel 4: 1-27. Calamity rarely comes without a warning. God, in His gracious, infinite patience, warns us time and again! Warns us of things to come. The only question is: will we heed it? That was the question for Nebuchadnezzar in his day; and, if we are wise, we will learn from his mistake.  Part 2 of Pastor Rod Schorr's message from the series: The Book of Daniel: For the Lions In Your Den.

Daniel 4: 1-27. Calamity rarely comes without a warning. God, in His gracious, infinite patience, warns us time and again! Warns us of things to come. The only question is: will we heed it? That was the question for Nebuchadnezzar in his day; and, if we are wise, we will learn from his mistake.  Part 1 of Pastor Rod Schorr's message from the series: The Book of Daniel: For the Lions In Your Den.

Daniel 3: 19-30 Two great, precious truths from our Christian faith come to the surface of this story today. Do you know them, dear Christian? Do you treasure them too? I'm talking about: the security of the believer and the presence of Christ in the midst of affliction. And nothing is more important to us right now!  Part 2 of Pastor Schorr's sermon from the Series: The Book of Daniel: For the Lions in your Den.

Daniel 3: 19-30 Two great, precious truths from our Christian faith come to the surface of this story today. Do you know them, dear Christian? Do you treasure them too? I'm talking about: the security of the believer and the presence of Christ in the midst of affliction. And nothing is more important to us right now!  Part 1 of Pastor Schorr's sermon from the Series: The Book of Daniel: For the Lions in your Den.

Daniel 3: 1-18 Men, dads, when younger ones look up to you, what do they see? Oh, now there's a question with the destinies of nations in the balance! Like never before, in the history of our dear nation, do we need mentors and dads to be there and to be real men! This morning, we learn what that means... Part 2 of Pastor Rod Schorr's sermon from the series: The Book of Daniel: For the Lions in Your Den

Daniel 3: 1-18 Men, dads, when younger ones look up to you, what do they see? Oh, now there's a question with the destinies of nations in the balance! Like never before, in the history of our dear nation, do we need mentors and dads to be there and to be real men! This morning, we learn what that means... Part 1 of Pastor Rod Schorr's sermon from the series: The Book of Daniel: For the Lions in Your Den

Daniel 2: 36-49 That old hymn says it well: "In the cross of Christ I glory, tow'ring over the wrecks of time..." This world we live in now--so impressive and so intimidating!--is on its way out! The kingdoms of this world are soon to be supplanted by the Kingdom of our Lord. And the question is: are you ready for that?  Part 1 of Pastor Rod Schorr's sermon from the series: The Book of Daniel: For the Lions in Your Den

Daniel 2: 36-49 That old hymn says it well: "In the cross of Christ I glory, tow'ring over the wrecks of time..." This world we live innow--so impressive and so intimidating!--is on its way out! The kingdoms of this world are soon to be supplanted by the Kingdom of our Lord. And the question is: are you ready for that?  Part 2 of Pastor Rod Schorr's sermon from the series: The Book of Daniel: For the Lions in Your Den

Daniel 2: 13-24    When trials come, how do you respond? That is the ultimate test of the Christian! Some people grumble or start questioning God. But Daniel? What an example he sets for us today! Let’s take a look... Part 2 of Pastor Rod Schorr's sermon from the series: The Book of Daniel: For the Lions in Your Den.

Daniel 2: 13-24    When trials come, how do you respond? That is the ultimate test of the Christian! Some people grumble or start questioning God. But Daniel? What an example he sets for us today! Let’s take a look... Part 1 of Pastor Rod Schorr's sermon from the series: The Book of Daniel: For the Lions in Your Den.

Daniel 2: 1-13 "There are other spirits, standing apart, at the forefront of the age to come," wrote the Utopian dreamer Keats. Oh, yes! He was right about that! There are 'other spirits', and they are just waiting to be welcomed! Be careful dear ones! Not everything 'spiritual' is here for your well-being. Part 1 of Pastor Schorr's sermon from the series: The Book of Daniel: For the Lions in your Den.

Daniel 2: 1-13 "There are other spirits, standing apart, at the forefront of the age to come," wrote the Utopian dreamer Keats. Oh, yes! He was right about that! There are 'other spirits', and they are just waiting to be welcomed! Be careful dear ones! Not everything 'spiritual' is here for your well-being. Part 2 of Pastor Schorr's sermon from the series: The Book of Daniel: For the Lions in your Den.

Daniel 1: 8-21  We have just begun our study of Daniel and already we are confronted with one of the most powerful lessons we could ever learn: the importance of resisting temptation and keep our hearts pure! What an incredible example this teenager, Daniel, sets for us this morning!  Part 1 of Pastor Schorr's message from the Series on the Book of Daniel: For the Lions In Your Den

introduction to the Series on the book of Daniel: For the Lions In Your Den Dan 1: 1-7 The Word of God is an amazing thing! And if we had to rank all the books of the Bible for their mystery and majesty and grandeur, this Book of Daniel just might top the list! So incredibly accurate and precise are its prophecies that the skeptics and unbelievers just refuse to believe it was written in Daniel's day. But it was! And every word of it has come true so far, and there's plenty more to come!  Part 1 of Pastor Schorr's first sermon in the series: The Book of Daniel: For the Lions In Your Den.

introduction to the Series on the book of Daniel: For the Lions In Your Den Dan 1: 1-7 The Word of God is an amazing thing! And if we had to rank all the books of the Bible for their mystery and majesty and grandeur, this Book of Daniel just might top the list! So incredibly accurate and precise are its prophecies that the skeptics and unbelievers just refuse to believe it was written in Daniel's day. But it was! And every word of it has come true so far, and there's plenty more to come!  Part 2 of Pastor Schorr's first sermon in the series: The Book of Daniel: For the Lions In Your Den.