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Follow Proof of Coverage Media: https://x.com/Proof_CoverageConnor speaks with Anirudh Pai, partner at Dragonfly Capital, about what it takes to build a successful crypto project and attract top investors. Anirudh highlights the importance of long-term demand strategies, demonstrating real customer engagement, and standing out in a competitive market. They explore the evolution of decentralized technologies, particularly in the energy sector, and the concept of commodity currencies like electrodollars, emphasizing the role of clean energy in technological progress. Anirudh also shares his insights on balancing learning, founder meetings, and supporting portfolio companies, along with his involvement in the Praxis project, which focuses on creating innovative living environments rooted in community and shared values. This conversation offers a wealth of insights into the crypto space, decentralized technologies, and the future of innovation.Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction01:09 - Getting on the Radar of Investors02:59 - Preferred Communication Channels for Founders04:08 - Balancing Workload and Learning06:21 - Embracing Serendipity in Investing08:13 - Avoiding Pattern Matching in Investment Decisions09:34 - The Evolution of DePIN15:13 - Commodity Currencies and Their Future18:09 - The Role of Energy in Economic Growth19:53 - Challenges in Decentralized Energy Markets22:33 - Roadblocks to DePIN Advancement26:04 - Innovations in the Medallion System27:05 - The Future of Energy and Wireless DePIN's29:44 - Updates on Praxis and Community Living32:37 - Closing ThoughtsDisclaimer: The hosts and the firms they represent may hold stakes in the companies mentioned in this podcast. None of this is financial advice.

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This week we are connecting with the one and only Anirudh Pisharody, an Indian American actor from Fox's 911 and Never Have I Ever. We chat all about craft, acting, being role models, taking risks, and being our biggest obstacles! It's a beautiful episode. Enjoy!

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Why do some countries have a seemingly endless supply of talent in certain fields? From Jamaica's sprinters to South Korea's golfers, public policy professor Anirudh Krishna explains why "talent ladders" — structured pathways to identify and nurture people's potential — are the best way to make sure everyone has the opportunity to thrive. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today's episode is with Paul Klein, founder of Browserbase. We talked about building browser infrastructure for AI agents, the future of agent authentication, and their open source framework Stagehand.* [00:00:00] Introductions* [00:04:46] AI-specific challenges in browser infrastructure* [00:07:05] Multimodality in AI-Powered Browsing* [00:12:26] Running headless browsers at scale* [00:18:46] Geolocation when proxying* [00:21:25] CAPTCHAs and Agent Auth* [00:28:21] Building “User take over” functionality* [00:33:43] Stagehand: AI web browsing framework* [00:38:58] OpenAI's Operator and computer use agents* [00:44:44] Surprising use cases of Browserbase* [00:47:18] Future of browser automation and market competition* [00:53:11] Being a solo founderTranscriptAlessio [00:00:04]: Hey everyone, welcome to the Latent Space podcast. This is Alessio, partner and CTO at Decibel Partners, and I'm joined by my co-host Swyx, founder of Smol.ai.swyx [00:00:12]: Hey, and today we are very blessed to have our friends, Paul Klein, for the fourth, the fourth, CEO of Browserbase. Welcome.Paul [00:00:21]: Thanks guys. Yeah, I'm happy to be here. I've been lucky to know both of you for like a couple of years now, I think. So it's just like we're hanging out, you know, with three ginormous microphones in front of our face. It's totally normal hangout.swyx [00:00:34]: Yeah. We've actually mentioned you on the podcast, I think, more often than any other Solaris tenant. Just because like you're one of the, you know, best performing, I think, LLM tool companies that have started up in the last couple of years.Paul [00:00:50]: Yeah, I mean, it's been a whirlwind of a year, like Browserbase is actually pretty close to our first birthday. So we are one years old. And going from, you know, starting a company as a solo founder to... To, you know, having a team of 20 people, you know, a series A, but also being able to support hundreds of AI companies that are building AI applications that go out and automate the web. It's just been like, really cool. It's been happening a little too fast. I think like collectively as an AI industry, let's just take a week off together. I took my first vacation actually two weeks ago, and Operator came out on the first day, and then a week later, DeepSeat came out. And I'm like on vacation trying to chill. I'm like, we got to build with this stuff, right? So it's been a breakneck year. But I'm super happy to be here and like talk more about all the stuff we're seeing. And I'd love to hear kind of what you guys are excited about too, and share with it, you know?swyx [00:01:39]: Where to start? So people, you've done a bunch of podcasts. I think I strongly recommend Jack Bridger's Scaling DevTools, as well as Turner Novak's The Peel. And, you know, I'm sure there's others. So you covered your Twilio story in the past, talked about StreamClub, you got acquired to Mux, and then you left to start Browserbase. So maybe we just start with what is Browserbase? Yeah.Paul [00:02:02]: Browserbase is the web browser for your AI. We're building headless browser infrastructure, which are browsers that run in a server environment that's accessible to developers via APIs and SDKs. It's really hard to run a web browser in the cloud. You guys are probably running Chrome on your computers, and that's using a lot of resources, right? So if you want to run a web browser or thousands of web browsers, you can't just spin up a bunch of lambdas. You actually need to use a secure containerized environment. You have to scale it up and down. It's a stateful system. And that infrastructure is, like, super painful. And I know that firsthand, because at my last company, StreamClub, I was CTO, and I was building our own internal headless browser infrastructure. That's actually why we sold the company, is because Mux really wanted to buy our headless browser infrastructure that we'd built. And it's just a super hard problem. And I actually told my co-founders, I would never start another company unless it was a browser infrastructure company. And it turns out that's really necessary in the age of AI, when AI can actually go out and interact with websites, click on buttons, fill in forms. You need AI to do all of that work in an actual browser running somewhere on a server. And BrowserBase powers that.swyx [00:03:08]: While you're talking about it, it occurred to me, not that you're going to be acquired or anything, but it occurred to me that it would be really funny if you became the Nikita Beer of headless browser companies. You just have one trick, and you make browser companies that get acquired.Paul [00:03:23]: I truly do only have one trick. I'm screwed if it's not for headless browsers. I'm not a Go programmer. You know, I'm in AI grant. You know, browsers is an AI grant. But we were the only company in that AI grant batch that used zero dollars on AI spend. You know, we're purely an infrastructure company. So as much as people want to ask me about reinforcement learning, I might not be the best guy to talk about that. But if you want to ask about headless browser infrastructure at scale, I can talk your ear off. So that's really my area of expertise. And it's a pretty niche thing. Like, nobody has done what we're doing at scale before. So we're happy to be the experts.swyx [00:03:59]: You do have an AI thing, stagehand. We can talk about the sort of core of browser-based first, and then maybe stagehand. Yeah, stagehand is kind of the web browsing framework. Yeah.What is Browserbase? Headless Browser Infrastructure ExplainedAlessio [00:04:10]: Yeah. Yeah. And maybe how you got to browser-based and what problems you saw. So one of the first things I worked on as a software engineer was integration testing. Sauce Labs was kind of like the main thing at the time. And then we had Selenium, we had Playbrite, we had all these different browser things. But it's always been super hard to do. So obviously you've worked on this before. When you started browser-based, what were the challenges? What were the AI-specific challenges that you saw versus, there's kind of like all the usual running browser at scale in the cloud, which has been a problem for years. What are like the AI unique things that you saw that like traditional purchase just didn't cover? Yeah.AI-specific challenges in browser infrastructurePaul [00:04:46]: First and foremost, I think back to like the first thing I did as a developer, like as a kid when I was writing code, I wanted to write code that did stuff for me. You know, I wanted to write code to automate my life. And I do that probably by using curl or beautiful soup to fetch data from a web browser. And I think I still do that now that I'm in the cloud. And the other thing that I think is a huge challenge for me is that you can't just create a web site and parse that data. And we all know that now like, you know, taking HTML and plugging that into an LLM, you can extract insights, you can summarize. So it was very clear that now like dynamic web scraping became very possible with the rise of large language models or a lot easier. And that was like a clear reason why there's been more usage of headless browsers, which are necessary because a lot of modern websites don't expose all of their page content via a simple HTTP request. You know, they actually do require you to run this type of code for a specific time. JavaScript on the page to hydrate this. Airbnb is a great example. You go to airbnb.com. A lot of that content on the page isn't there until after they run the initial hydration. So you can't just scrape it with a curl. You need to have some JavaScript run. And a browser is that JavaScript engine that's going to actually run all those requests on the page. So web data retrieval was definitely one driver of starting BrowserBase and the rise of being able to summarize that within LLM. Also, I was familiar with if I wanted to automate a website, I could write one script and that would work for one website. It was very static and deterministic. But the web is non-deterministic. The web is always changing. And until we had LLMs, there was no way to write scripts that you could write once that would run on any website. That would change with the structure of the website. Click the login button. It could mean something different on many different websites. And LLMs allow us to generate code on the fly to actually control that. So I think that rise of writing the generic automation scripts that can work on many different websites, to me, made it clear that browsers are going to be a lot more useful because now you can automate a lot more things without writing. If you wanted to write a script to book a demo call on 100 websites, previously, you had to write 100 scripts. Now you write one script that uses LLMs to generate that script. That's why we built our web browsing framework, StageHand, which does a lot of that work for you. But those two things, web data collection and then enhanced automation of many different websites, it just felt like big drivers for more browser infrastructure that would be required to power these kinds of features.Alessio [00:07:05]: And was multimodality also a big thing?Paul [00:07:08]: Now you can use the LLMs to look, even though the text in the dome might not be as friendly. Maybe my hot take is I was always kind of like, I didn't think vision would be as big of a driver. For UI automation, I felt like, you know, HTML is structured text and large language models are good with structured text. But it's clear that these computer use models are often vision driven, and they've been really pushing things forward. So definitely being multimodal, like rendering the page is required to take a screenshot to give that to a computer use model to take actions on a website. And it's just another win for browser. But I'll be honest, that wasn't what I was thinking early on. I didn't even think that we'd get here so fast with multimodality. I think we're going to have to get back to multimodal and vision models.swyx [00:07:50]: This is one of those things where I forgot to mention in my intro that I'm an investor in Browserbase. And I remember that when you pitched to me, like a lot of the stuff that we have today, we like wasn't on the original conversation. But I did have my original thesis was something that we've talked about on the podcast before, which is take the GPT store, the custom GPT store, all the every single checkbox and plugin is effectively a startup. And this was the browser one. I think the main hesitation, I think I actually took a while to get back to you. The main hesitation was that there were others. Like you're not the first hit list browser startup. It's not even your first hit list browser startup. There's always a question of like, will you be the category winner in a place where there's a bunch of incumbents, to be honest, that are bigger than you? They're just not targeted at the AI space. They don't have the backing of Nat Friedman. And there's a bunch of like, you're here in Silicon Valley. They're not. I don't know.Paul [00:08:47]: I don't know if that's, that was it, but like, there was a, yeah, I mean, like, I think I tried all the other ones and I was like, really disappointed. Like my background is from working at great developer tools, companies, and nothing had like the Vercel like experience. Um, like our biggest competitor actually is partly owned by private equity and they just jacked up their prices quite a bit. And the dashboard hasn't changed in five years. And I actually used them at my last company and tried them and I was like, oh man, like there really just needs to be something that's like the experience of these great infrastructure companies, like Stripe, like clerk, like Vercel that I use in love, but oriented towards this kind of like more specific category, which is browser infrastructure, which is really technically complex. Like a lot of stuff can go wrong on the internet when you're running a browser. The internet is very vast. There's a lot of different configurations. Like there's still websites that only work with internet explorer out there. How do you handle that when you're running your own browser infrastructure? These are the problems that we have to think about and solve at BrowserBase. And it's, it's certainly a labor of love, but I built this for me, first and foremost, I know it's super cheesy and everyone says that for like their startups, but it really, truly was for me. If you look at like the talks I've done even before BrowserBase, and I'm just like really excited to try and build a category defining infrastructure company. And it's, it's rare to have a new category of infrastructure exists. We're here in the Chroma offices and like, you know, vector databases is a new category of infrastructure. Is it, is it, I mean, we can, we're in their office, so, you know, we can, we can debate that one later. That is one.Multimodality in AI-Powered Browsingswyx [00:10:16]: That's one of the industry debates.Paul [00:10:17]: I guess we go back to the LLMOS talk that Karpathy gave way long ago. And like the browser box was very clearly there and it seemed like the people who were building in this space also agreed that browsers are a core primitive of infrastructure for the LLMOS that's going to exist in the future. And nobody was building something there that I wanted to use. So I had to go build it myself.swyx [00:10:38]: Yeah. I mean, exactly that talk that, that honestly, that diagram, every box is a startup and there's the code box and then there's the. The browser box. I think at some point they will start clashing there. There's always the question of the, are you a point solution or are you the sort of all in one? And I think the point solutions tend to win quickly, but then the only ones have a very tight cohesive experience. Yeah. Let's talk about just the hard problems of browser base you have on your website, which is beautiful. Thank you. Was there an agency that you used for that? Yeah. Herb.paris.Paul [00:11:11]: They're amazing. Herb.paris. Yeah. It's H-E-R-V-E. I highly recommend for developers. Developer tools, founders to work with consumer agencies because they end up building beautiful things and the Parisians know how to build beautiful interfaces. So I got to give prep.swyx [00:11:24]: And chat apps, apparently are, they are very fast. Oh yeah. The Mistral chat. Yeah. Mistral. Yeah.Paul [00:11:31]: Late chat.swyx [00:11:31]: Late chat. And then your videos as well, it was professionally shot, right? The series A video. Yeah.Alessio [00:11:36]: Nico did the videos. He's amazing. Not the initial video that you shot at the new one. First one was Austin.Paul [00:11:41]: Another, another video pretty surprised. But yeah, I mean, like, I think when you think about how you talk about your company. You have to think about the way you present yourself. It's, you know, as a developer, you think you evaluate a company based on like the API reliability and the P 95, but a lot of developers say, is the website good? Is the message clear? Do I like trust this founder? I'm building my whole feature on. So I've tried to nail that as well as like the reliability of the infrastructure. You're right. It's very hard. And there's a lot of kind of foot guns that you run into when running headless browsers at scale. Right.Competing with Existing Headless Browser Solutionsswyx [00:12:10]: So let's pick one. You have eight features here. Seamless integration. Scalability. Fast or speed. Secure. Observable. Stealth. That's interesting. Extensible and developer first. What comes to your mind as like the top two, three hardest ones? Yeah.Running headless browsers at scalePaul [00:12:26]: I think just running headless browsers at scale is like the hardest one. And maybe can I nerd out for a second? Is that okay? I heard this is a technical audience, so I'll talk to the other nerds. Whoa. They were listening. Yeah. They're upset. They're ready. The AGI is angry. Okay. So. So how do you run a browser in the cloud? Let's start with that, right? So let's say you're using a popular browser automation framework like Puppeteer, Playwright, and Selenium. Maybe you've written a code, some code locally on your computer that opens up Google. It finds the search bar and then types in, you know, search for Latent Space and hits the search button. That script works great locally. You can see the little browser open up. You want to take that to production. You want to run the script in a cloud environment. So when your laptop is closed, your browser is doing something. The browser is doing something. Well, I, we use Amazon. You can see the little browser open up. You know, the first thing I'd reach for is probably like some sort of serverless infrastructure. I would probably try and deploy on a Lambda. But Chrome itself is too big to run on a Lambda. It's over 250 megabytes. So you can't easily start it on a Lambda. So you maybe have to use something like Lambda layers to squeeze it in there. Maybe use a different Chromium build that's lighter. And you get it on the Lambda. Great. It works. But it runs super slowly. It's because Lambdas are very like resource limited. They only run like with one vCPU. You can run one process at a time. Remember, Chromium is super beefy. It's barely running on my MacBook Air. I'm still downloading it from a pre-run. Yeah, from the test earlier, right? I'm joking. But it's big, you know? So like Lambda, it just won't work really well. Maybe it'll work, but you need something faster. Your users want something faster. Okay. Well, let's put it on a beefier instance. Let's get an EC2 server running. Let's throw Chromium on there. Great. Okay. I can, that works well with one user. But what if I want to run like 10 Chromium instances, one for each of my users? Okay. Well, I might need two EC2 instances. Maybe 10. All of a sudden, you have multiple EC2 instances. This sounds like a problem for Kubernetes and Docker, right? Now, all of a sudden, you're using ECS or EKS, the Kubernetes or container solutions by Amazon. You're spending up and down containers, and you're spending a whole engineer's time on kind of maintaining this stateful distributed system. Those are some of the worst systems to run because when it's a stateful distributed system, it means that you are bound by the connections to that thing. You have to keep the browser open while someone is working with it, right? That's just a painful architecture to run. And there's all this other little gotchas with Chromium, like Chromium, which is the open source version of Chrome, by the way. You have to install all these fonts. You want emojis working in your browsers because your vision model is looking for the emoji. You need to make sure you have the emoji fonts. You need to make sure you have all the right extensions configured, like, oh, do you want ad blocking? How do you configure that? How do you actually record all these browser sessions? Like it's a headless browser. You can't look at it. So you need to have some sort of observability. Maybe you're recording videos and storing those somewhere. It all kind of adds up to be this just giant monster piece of your project when all you wanted to do was run a lot of browsers in production for this little script to go to google.com and search. And when I see a complex distributed system, I see an opportunity to build a great infrastructure company. And we really abstract that away with Browserbase where our customers can use these existing frameworks, Playwright, Publisher, Selenium, or our own stagehand and connect to our browsers in a serverless-like way. And control them, and then just disconnect when they're done. And they don't have to think about the complex distributed system behind all of that. They just get a browser running anywhere, anytime. Really easy to connect to.swyx [00:15:55]: I'm sure you have questions. My standard question with anything, so essentially you're a serverless browser company, and there's been other serverless things that I'm familiar with in the past, serverless GPUs, serverless website hosting. That's where I come from with Netlify. One question is just like, you promised to spin up thousands of servers. You promised to spin up thousands of browsers in milliseconds. I feel like there's no real solution that does that yet. And I'm just kind of curious how. The only solution I know, which is to kind of keep a kind of warm pool of servers around, which is expensive, but maybe not so expensive because it's just CPUs. So I'm just like, you know. Yeah.Browsers as a Core Primitive in AI InfrastructurePaul [00:16:36]: You nailed it, right? I mean, how do you offer a serverless-like experience with something that is clearly not serverless, right? And the answer is, you need to be able to run... We run many browsers on single nodes. We use Kubernetes at browser base. So we have many pods that are being scheduled. We have to predictably schedule them up or down. Yes, thousands of browsers in milliseconds is the best case scenario. If you hit us with 10,000 requests, you may hit a slower cold start, right? So we've done a lot of work on predictive scaling and being able to kind of route stuff to different regions where we have multiple regions of browser base where we have different pools available. You can also pick the region you want to go to based on like lower latency, round trip, time latency. It's very important with these types of things. There's a lot of requests going over the wire. So for us, like having a VM like Firecracker powering everything under the hood allows us to be super nimble and spin things up or down really quickly with strong multi-tenancy. But in the end, this is like the complex infrastructural challenges that we have to kind of deal with at browser base. And we have a lot more stuff on our roadmap to allow customers to have more levers to pull to exchange, do you want really fast browser startup times or do you want really low costs? And if you're willing to be more flexible on that, we may be able to kind of like work better for your use cases.swyx [00:17:44]: Since you used Firecracker, shouldn't Fargate do that for you or did you have to go lower level than that? We had to go lower level than that.Paul [00:17:51]: I find this a lot with Fargate customers, which is alarming for Fargate. We used to be a giant Fargate customer. Actually, the first version of browser base was ECS and Fargate. And unfortunately, it's a great product. I think we were actually the largest Fargate customer in our region for a little while. No, what? Yeah, seriously. And unfortunately, it's a great product, but I think if you're an infrastructure company, you actually have to have a deeper level of control over these primitives. I think it's the same thing is true with databases. We've used other database providers and I think-swyx [00:18:21]: Yeah, serverless Postgres.Paul [00:18:23]: Shocker. When you're an infrastructure company, you're on the hook if any provider has an outage. And I can't tell my customers like, hey, we went down because so-and-so went down. That's not acceptable. So for us, we've really moved to bringing things internally. It's kind of opposite of what we preach. We tell our customers, don't build this in-house, but then we're like, we build a lot of stuff in-house. But I think it just really depends on what is in the critical path. We try and have deep ownership of that.Alessio [00:18:46]: On the distributed location side, how does that work for the web where you might get sort of different content in different locations, but the customer is expecting, you know, if you're in the US, I'm expecting the US version. But if you're spinning up my browser in France, I might get the French version. Yeah.Paul [00:19:02]: Yeah. That's a good question. Well, generally, like on the localization, there is a thing called locale in the browser. You can set like what your locale is. If you're like in the ENUS browser or not, but some things do IP, IP based routing. And in that case, you may want to have a proxy. Like let's say you're running something in the, in Europe, but you want to make sure you're showing up from the US. You may want to use one of our proxy features so you can turn on proxies to say like, make sure these connections always come from the United States, which is necessary too, because when you're browsing the web, you're coming from like a, you know, data center IP, and that can make things a lot harder to browse web. So we do have kind of like this proxy super network. Yeah. We have a proxy for you based on where you're going, so you can reliably automate the web. But if you get scheduled in Europe, that doesn't happen as much. We try and schedule you as close to, you know, your origin that you're trying to go to. But generally you have control over the regions you can put your browsers in. So you can specify West one or East one or Europe. We only have one region of Europe right now, actually. Yeah.Alessio [00:19:55]: What's harder, the browser or the proxy? I feel like to me, it feels like actually proxying reliably at scale. It's much harder than spending up browsers at scale. I'm curious. It's all hard.Paul [00:20:06]: It's layers of hard, right? Yeah. I think it's different levels of hard. I think the thing with the proxy infrastructure is that we work with many different web proxy providers and some are better than others. Some have good days, some have bad days. And our customers who've built browser infrastructure on their own, they have to go and deal with sketchy actors. Like first they figure out their own browser infrastructure and then they got to go buy a proxy. And it's like you can pay in Bitcoin and it just kind of feels a little sus, right? It's like you're buying drugs when you're trying to get a proxy online. We have like deep relationships with these counterparties. We're able to audit them and say, is this proxy being sourced ethically? Like it's not running on someone's TV somewhere. Is it free range? Yeah. Free range organic proxies, right? Right. We do a level of diligence. We're SOC 2. So we have to understand what is going on here. But then we're able to make sure that like we route around proxy providers not working. There's proxy providers who will just, the proxy will stop working all of a sudden. And then if you don't have redundant proxying on your own browsers, that's hard down for you or you may get some serious impacts there. With us, like we intelligently know, hey, this proxy is not working. Let's go to this one. And you can kind of build a network of multiple providers to really guarantee the best uptime for our customers. Yeah. So you don't own any proxies? We don't own any proxies. You're right. The team has been saying who wants to like take home a little proxy server, but not yet. We're not there yet. You know?swyx [00:21:25]: It's a very mature market. I don't think you should build that yourself. Like you should just be a super customer of them. Yeah. Scraping, I think, is the main use case for that. I guess. Well, that leads us into CAPTCHAs and also off, but let's talk about CAPTCHAs. You had a little spiel that you wanted to talk about CAPTCHA stuff.Challenges of Scaling Browser InfrastructurePaul [00:21:43]: Oh, yeah. I was just, I think a lot of people ask, if you're thinking about proxies, you're thinking about CAPTCHAs too. I think it's the same thing. You can go buy CAPTCHA solvers online, but it's the same buying experience. It's some sketchy website, you have to integrate it. It's not fun to buy these things and you can't really trust that the docs are bad. What Browserbase does is we integrate a bunch of different CAPTCHAs. We do some stuff in-house, but generally we just integrate with a bunch of known vendors and continually monitor and maintain these things and say, is this working or not? Can we route around it or not? These are CAPTCHA solvers. CAPTCHA solvers, yeah. Not CAPTCHA providers, CAPTCHA solvers. Yeah, sorry. CAPTCHA solvers. We really try and make sure all of that works for you. I think as a dev, if I'm buying infrastructure, I want it all to work all the time and it's important for us to provide that experience by making sure everything does work and monitoring it on our own. Yeah. Right now, the world of CAPTCHAs is tricky. I think AI agents in particular are very much ahead of the internet infrastructure. CAPTCHAs are designed to block all types of bots, but there are now good bots and bad bots. I think in the future, CAPTCHAs will be able to identify who a good bot is, hopefully via some sort of KYC. For us, we've been very lucky. We have very little to no known abuse of Browserbase because we really look into who we work with. And for certain types of CAPTCHA solving, we only allow them on certain types of plans because we want to make sure that we can know what people are doing, what their use cases are. And that's really allowed us to try and be an arbiter of good bots, which is our long term goal. I want to build great relationships with people like Cloudflare so we can agree, hey, here are these acceptable bots. We'll identify them for you and make sure we flag when they come to your website. This is a good bot, you know?Alessio [00:23:23]: I see. And Cloudflare said they want to do more of this. So they're going to set by default, if they think you're an AI bot, they're going to reject. I'm curious if you think this is something that is going to be at the browser level or I mean, the DNS level with Cloudflare seems more where it should belong. But I'm curious how you think about it.Paul [00:23:40]: I think the web's going to change. You know, I think that the Internet as we have it right now is going to change. And we all need to just accept that the cat is out of the bag. And instead of kind of like wishing the Internet was like it was in the 2000s, we can have free content line that wouldn't be scraped. It's just it's not going to happen. And instead, we should think about like, one, how can we change? How can we change the models of, you know, information being published online so people can adequately commercialize it? But two, how do we rebuild applications that expect that AI agents are going to log in on their behalf? Those are the things that are going to allow us to kind of like identify good and bad bots. And I think the team at Clerk has been doing a really good job with this on the authentication side. I actually think that auth is the biggest thing that will prevent agents from accessing stuff, not captchas. And I think there will be agent auth in the future. I don't know if it's going to happen from an individual company, but actually authentication providers that have a, you know, hidden login as agent feature, which will then you put in your email, you'll get a push notification, say like, hey, your browser-based agent wants to log into your Airbnb. You can approve that and then the agent can proceed. That really circumvents the need for captchas or logging in as you and sharing your password. I think agent auth is going to be one way we identify good bots going forward. And I think a lot of this captcha solving stuff is really short-term problems as the internet kind of reorients itself around how it's going to work with agents browsing the web, just like people do. Yeah.Managing Distributed Browser Locations and Proxiesswyx [00:24:59]: Stitch recently was on Hacker News for talking about agent experience, AX, which is a thing that Netlify is also trying to clone and coin and talk about. And we've talked about this on our previous episodes before in a sense that I actually think that's like maybe the only part of the tech stack that needs to be kind of reinvented for agents. Everything else can stay the same, CLIs, APIs, whatever. But auth, yeah, we need agent auth. And it's mostly like short-lived, like it should not, it should be a distinct, identity from the human, but paired. I almost think like in the same way that every social network should have your main profile and then your alt accounts or your Finsta, it's almost like, you know, every, every human token should be paired with the agent token and the agent token can go and do stuff on behalf of the human token, but not be presumed to be the human. Yeah.Paul [00:25:48]: It's like, it's, it's actually very similar to OAuth is what I'm thinking. And, you know, Thread from Stitch is an investor, Colin from Clerk, Octaventures, all investors in browser-based because like, I hope they solve this because they'll make browser-based submission more possible. So we don't have to overcome all these hurdles, but I think it will be an OAuth-like flow where an agent will ask to log in as you, you'll approve the scopes. Like it can book an apartment on Airbnb, but it can't like message anybody. And then, you know, the agent will have some sort of like role-based access control within an application. Yeah. I'm excited for that.swyx [00:26:16]: The tricky part is just, there's one, one layer of delegation here, which is like, you're authoring my user's user or something like that. I don't know if that's tricky or not. Does that make sense? Yeah.Paul [00:26:25]: You know, actually at Twilio, I worked on the login identity and access. Management teams, right? So like I built Twilio's login page.swyx [00:26:31]: You were an intern on that team and then you became the lead in two years? Yeah.Paul [00:26:34]: Yeah. I started as an intern in 2016 and then I was the tech lead of that team. How? That's not normal. I didn't have a life. He's not normal. Look at this guy. I didn't have a girlfriend. I just loved my job. I don't know. I applied to 500 internships for my first job and I got rejected from every single one of them except for Twilio and then eventually Amazon. And they took a shot on me and like, I was getting paid money to write code, which was my dream. Yeah. Yeah. I'm very lucky that like this coding thing worked out because I was going to be doing it regardless. And yeah, I was able to kind of spend a lot of time on a team that was growing at a company that was growing. So it informed a lot of this stuff here. I think these are problems that have been solved with like the SAML protocol with SSO. I think it's a really interesting stuff with like WebAuthn, like these different types of authentication, like schemes that you can use to authenticate people. The tooling is all there. It just needs to be tweaked a little bit to work for agents. And I think the fact that there are companies that are already. Providing authentication as a service really sets it up. Well, the thing that's hard is like reinventing the internet for agents. We don't want to rebuild the internet. That's an impossible task. And I think people often say like, well, we'll have this second layer of APIs built for agents. I'm like, we will for the top use cases, but instead of we can just tweak the internet as is, which is on the authentication side, I think we're going to be the dumb ones going forward. Unfortunately, I think AI is going to be able to do a lot of the tasks that we do online, which means that it will be able to go to websites, click buttons on our behalf and log in on our behalf too. So with this kind of like web agent future happening, I think with some small structural changes, like you said, it feels like it could all slot in really nicely with the existing internet.Handling CAPTCHAs and Agent Authenticationswyx [00:28:08]: There's one more thing, which is the, your live view iframe, which lets you take, take control. Yeah. Obviously very key for operator now, but like, was, is there anything interesting technically there or that the people like, well, people always want this.Paul [00:28:21]: It was really hard to build, you know, like, so, okay. Headless browsers, you don't see them, right. They're running. They're running in a cloud somewhere. You can't like look at them. And I just want to really make, it's a weird name. I wish we came up with a better name for this thing, but you can't see them. Right. But customers don't trust AI agents, right. At least the first pass. So what we do with our live view is that, you know, when you use browser base, you can actually embed a live view of the browser running in the cloud for your customer to see it working. And that's what the first reason is the build trust, like, okay, so I have this script. That's going to go automate a website. I can embed it into my web application via an iframe and my customer can watch. I think. And then we added two way communication. So now not only can you watch the browser kind of being operated by AI, if you want to pause and actually click around type within this iframe that's controlling a browser, that's also possible. And this is all thanks to some of the lower level protocol, which is called the Chrome DevTools protocol. It has a API called start screencast, and you can also send mouse clicks and button clicks to a remote browser. And this is all embeddable within iframes. You have a browser within a browser, yo. And then you simulate the screen, the click on the other side. Exactly. And this is really nice often for, like, let's say, a capture that can't be solved. You saw this with Operator, you know, Operator actually uses a different approach. They use VNC. So, you know, you're able to see, like, you're seeing the whole window here. What we're doing is something a little lower level with the Chrome DevTools protocol. It's just PNGs being streamed over the wire. But the same thing is true, right? Like, hey, I'm running a window. Pause. Can you do something in this window? Human. Okay, great. Resume. Like sometimes 2FA tokens. Like if you get that text message, you might need a person to type that in. Web agents need human-in-the-loop type workflows still. You still need a person to interact with the browser. And building a UI to proxy that is kind of hard. You may as well just show them the whole browser and say, hey, can you finish this up for me? And then let the AI proceed on afterwards. Is there a future where I stream my current desktop to browser base? I don't think so. I think we're very much cloud infrastructure. Yeah. You know, but I think a lot of the stuff we're doing, we do want to, like, build tools. Like, you know, we'll talk about the stage and, you know, web agent framework in a second. But, like, there's a case where a lot of people are going desktop first for, you know, consumer use. And I think cloud is doing a lot of this, where I expect to see, you know, MCPs really oriented around the cloud desktop app for a reason, right? Like, I think a lot of these tools are going to run on your computer because it makes... I think it's breaking out. People are putting it on a server. Oh, really? Okay. Well, sweet. We'll see. We'll see that. I was surprised, though, wasn't I? I think that the browser company, too, with Dia Browser, it runs on your machine. You know, it's going to be...swyx [00:30:50]: What is it?Paul [00:30:51]: So, Dia Browser, as far as I understand... I used to use Arc. Yeah. I haven't used Arc. But I'm a big fan of the browser company. I think they're doing a lot of cool stuff in consumer. As far as I understand, it's a browser where you have a sidebar where you can, like, chat with it and it can control the local browser on your machine. So, if you imagine, like, what a consumer web agent is, which it lives alongside your browser, I think Google Chrome has Project Marina, I think. I almost call it Project Marinara for some reason. I don't know why. It's...swyx [00:31:17]: No, I think it's someone really likes the Waterworld. Oh, I see. The classic Kevin Costner. Yeah.Paul [00:31:22]: Okay. Project Marinara is a similar thing to the Dia Browser, in my mind, as far as I understand it. You have a browser that has an AI interface that will take over your mouse and keyboard and control the browser for you. Great for consumer use cases. But if you're building applications that rely on a browser and it's more part of a greater, like, AI app experience, you probably need something that's more like infrastructure, not a consumer app.swyx [00:31:44]: Just because I have explored a little bit in this area, do people want branching? So, I have the state. Of whatever my browser's in. And then I want, like, 100 clones of this state. Do people do that? Or...Paul [00:31:56]: People don't do it currently. Yeah. But it's definitely something we're thinking about. I think the idea of forking a browser is really cool. Technically, kind of hard. We're starting to see this in code execution, where people are, like, forking some, like, code execution, like, processes or forking some tool calls or branching tool calls. Haven't seen it at the browser level yet. But it makes sense. Like, if an AI agent is, like, using a website and it's not sure what path it wants to take to crawl this website. To find the information it's looking for. It would make sense for it to explore both paths in parallel. And that'd be a very, like... A road not taken. Yeah. And hopefully find the right answer. And then say, okay, this was actually the right one. And memorize that. And go there in the future. On the roadmap. For sure. Don't make my roadmap, please. You know?Alessio [00:32:37]: How do you actually do that? Yeah. How do you fork? I feel like the browser is so stateful for so many things.swyx [00:32:42]: Serialize the state. Restore the state. I don't know.Paul [00:32:44]: So, it's one of the reasons why we haven't done it yet. It's hard. You know? Like, to truly fork, it's actually quite difficult. The naive way is to open the same page in a new tab and then, like, hope that it's at the same thing. But if you have a form halfway filled, you may have to, like, take the whole, you know, container. Pause it. All the memory. Duplicate it. Restart it from there. It could be very slow. So, we haven't found a thing. Like, the easy thing to fork is just, like, copy the page object. You know? But I think there needs to be something a little bit more robust there. Yeah.swyx [00:33:12]: So, MorphLabs has this infinite branch thing. Like, wrote a custom fork of Linux or something that let them save the system state and clone it. MorphLabs, hit me up. I'll be a customer. Yeah. That's the only. I think that's the only way to do it. Yeah. Like, unless Chrome has some special API for you. Yeah.Paul [00:33:29]: There's probably something we'll reverse engineer one day. I don't know. Yeah.Alessio [00:33:32]: Let's talk about StageHand, the AI web browsing framework. You have three core components, Observe, Extract, and Act. Pretty clean landing page. What was the idea behind making a framework? Yeah.Stagehand: AI web browsing frameworkPaul [00:33:43]: So, there's three frameworks that are very popular or already exist, right? Puppeteer, Playwright, Selenium. Those are for building hard-coded scripts to control websites. And as soon as I started to play with LLMs plus browsing, I caught myself, you know, code-genning Playwright code to control a website. I would, like, take the DOM. I'd pass it to an LLM. I'd say, can you generate the Playwright code to click the appropriate button here? And it would do that. And I was like, this really should be part of the frameworks themselves. And I became really obsessed with SDKs that take natural language as part of, like, the API input. And that's what StageHand is. StageHand exposes three APIs, and it's a super set of Playwright. So, if you go to a page, you may want to take an action, click on the button, fill in the form, etc. That's what the act command is for. You may want to extract some data. This one takes a natural language, like, extract the winner of the Super Bowl from this page. You can give it a Zod schema, so it returns a structured output. And then maybe you're building an API. You can do an agent loop, and you want to kind of see what actions are possible on this page before taking one. You can do observe. So, you can observe the actions on the page, and it will generate a list of actions. You can guide it, like, give me actions on this page related to buying an item. And you can, like, buy it now, add to cart, view shipping options, and pass that to an LLM, an agent loop, to say, what's the appropriate action given this high-level goal? So, StageHand isn't a web agent. It's a framework for building web agents. And we think that agent loops are actually pretty close to the application layer because every application probably has different goals or different ways it wants to take steps. I don't think I've seen a generic. Maybe you guys are the experts here. I haven't seen, like, a really good AI agent framework here. Everyone kind of has their own special sauce, right? I see a lot of developers building their own agent loops, and they're using tools. And I view StageHand as the browser tool. So, we expose act, extract, observe. Your agent can call these tools. And from that, you don't have to worry about it. You don't have to worry about generating playwright code performantly. You don't have to worry about running it. You can kind of just integrate these three tool calls into your agent loop and reliably automate the web.swyx [00:35:48]: A special shout-out to Anirudh, who I met at your dinner, who I think listens to the pod. Yeah. Hey, Anirudh.Paul [00:35:54]: Anirudh's a man. He's a StageHand guy.swyx [00:35:56]: I mean, the interesting thing about each of these APIs is they're kind of each startup. Like, specifically extract, you know, Firecrawler is extract. There's, like, Expand AI. There's a whole bunch of, like, extract companies. They just focus on extract. I'm curious. Like, I feel like you guys are going to collide at some point. Like, right now, it's friendly. Everyone's in a blue ocean. At some point, it's going to be valuable enough that there's some turf battle here. I don't think you have a dog in a fight. I think you can mock extract to use an external service if they're better at it than you. But it's just an observation that, like, in the same way that I see each option, each checkbox in the side of custom GBTs becoming a startup or each box in the Karpathy chart being a startup. Like, this is also becoming a thing. Yeah.Paul [00:36:41]: I mean, like, so the way StageHand works is that it's MIT-licensed, completely open source. You bring your own API key to your LLM of choice. You could choose your LLM. We don't make any money off of the extract or really. We only really make money if you choose to run it with our browser. You don't have to. You can actually use your own browser, a local browser. You know, StageHand is completely open source for that reason. And, yeah, like, I think if you're building really complex web scraping workflows, I don't know if StageHand is the tool for you. I think it's really more if you're building an AI agent that needs a few general tools or if it's doing a lot of, like, web automation-intensive work. But if you're building a scraping company, StageHand is not your thing. You probably want something that's going to, like, get HTML content, you know, convert that to Markdown, query it. That's not what StageHand does. StageHand is more about reliability. I think we focus a lot on reliability and less so on cost optimization and speed at this point.swyx [00:37:33]: I actually feel like StageHand, so the way that StageHand works, it's like, you know, page.act, click on the quick start. Yeah. It's kind of the integration test for the code that you would have to write anyway, like the Puppeteer code that you have to write anyway. And when the page structure changes, because it always does, then this is still the test. This is still the test that I would have to write. Yeah. So it's kind of like a testing framework that doesn't need implementation detail.Paul [00:37:56]: Well, yeah. I mean, Puppeteer, Playwright, and Slenderman were all designed as testing frameworks, right? Yeah. And now people are, like, hacking them together to automate the web. I would say, and, like, maybe this is, like, me being too specific. But, like, when I write tests, if the page structure changes. Without me knowing, I want that test to fail. So I don't know if, like, AI, like, regenerating that. Like, people are using StageHand for testing. But it's more for, like, usability testing, not, like, testing of, like, does the front end, like, has it changed or not. Okay. But generally where we've seen people, like, really, like, take off is, like, if they're using, you know, something. If they want to build a feature in their application that's kind of like Operator or Deep Research, they're using StageHand to kind of power that tool calling in their own agent loop. Okay. Cool.swyx [00:38:37]: So let's go into Operator, the first big agent launch of the year from OpenAI. Seems like they have a whole bunch scheduled. You were on break and your phone blew up. What's your just general view of computer use agents is what they're calling it. The overall category before we go into Open Operator, just the overall promise of Operator. I will observe that I tried it once. It was okay. And I never tried it again.OpenAI's Operator and computer use agentsPaul [00:38:58]: That tracks with my experience, too. Like, I'm a huge fan of the OpenAI team. Like, I think that I do not view Operator as the company. I'm not a company killer for browser base at all. I think it actually shows people what's possible. I think, like, computer use models make a lot of sense. And I'm actually most excited about computer use models is, like, their ability to, like, really take screenshots and reasoning and output steps. I think that using mouse click or mouse coordinates, I've seen that proved to be less reliable than I would like. And I just wonder if that's the right form factor. What we've done with our framework is anchor it to the DOM itself, anchor it to the actual item. So, like, if it's clicking on something, it's clicking on that thing, you know? Like, it's more accurate. No matter where it is. Yeah, exactly. Because it really ties in nicely. And it can handle, like, the whole viewport in one go, whereas, like, Operator can only handle what it sees. Can you hover? Is hovering a thing that you can do? I don't know if we expose it as a tool directly, but I'm sure there's, like, an API for hovering. Like, move mouse to this position. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think you can trigger hover, like, via, like, the JavaScript on the DOM itself. But, no, I think, like, when we saw computer use, everyone's eyes lit up because they realized, like, wow, like, AI is going to actually automate work for people. And I think seeing that kind of happen from both of the labs, and I'm sure we're going to see more labs launch computer use models, I'm excited to see all the stuff that people build with it. I think that I'd love to see computer use power, like, controlling a browser on browser base. And I think, like, Open Operator, which was, like, our open source version of OpenAI's Operator, was our first take on, like, how can we integrate these models into browser base? And we handle the infrastructure and let the labs do the models. I don't have a sense that Operator will be released as an API. I don't know. Maybe it will. I'm curious to see how well that works because I think it's going to be really hard for a company like OpenAI to do things like support CAPTCHA solving or, like, have proxies. Like, I think it's hard for them structurally. Imagine this New York Times headline, OpenAI CAPTCHA solving. Like, that would be a pretty bad headline, this New York Times headline. Browser base solves CAPTCHAs. No one cares. No one cares. And, like, our investors are bored. Like, we're all okay with this, you know? We're building this company knowing that the CAPTCHA solving is short-lived until we figure out how to authenticate good bots. I think it's really hard for a company like OpenAI, who has this brand that's so, so good, to balance with, like, the icky parts of web automation, which it can be kind of complex to solve. I'm sure OpenAI knows who to call whenever they need you. Yeah, right. I'm sure they'll have a great partnership.Alessio [00:41:23]: And is Open Operator just, like, a marketing thing for you? Like, how do you think about resource allocation? So, you can spin this up very quickly. And now there's all this, like, open deep research, just open all these things that people are building. We started it, you know. You're the original Open. We're the original Open operator, you know? Is it just, hey, look, this is a demo, but, like, we'll help you build out an actual product for yourself? Like, are you interested in going more of a product route? That's kind of the OpenAI way, right? They started as a model provider and then…Paul [00:41:53]: Yeah, we're not interested in going the product route yet. I view Open Operator as a model provider. It's a reference project, you know? Let's show people how to build these things using the infrastructure and models that are out there. And that's what it is. It's, like, Open Operator is very simple. It's an agent loop. It says, like, take a high-level goal, break it down into steps, use tool calling to accomplish those steps. It takes screenshots and feeds those screenshots into an LLM with the step to generate the right action. It uses stagehand under the hood to actually execute this action. It doesn't use a computer use model. And it, like, has a nice interface using the live view that we talked about, the iframe, to embed that into an application. So I felt like people on launch day wanted to figure out how to build their own version of this. And we turned that around really quickly to show them. And I hope we do that with other things like deep research. We don't have a deep research launch yet. I think David from AOMNI actually has an amazing open deep research that he launched. It has, like, 10K GitHub stars now. So he's crushing that. But I think if people want to build these features natively into their application, they need good reference projects. And I think Open Operator is a good example of that.swyx [00:42:52]: I don't know. Actually, I'm actually pretty bullish on API-driven operator. Because that's the only way that you can sort of, like, once it's reliable enough, obviously. And now we're nowhere near. But, like, give it five years. It'll happen, you know. And then you can sort of spin this up and browsers are working in the background and you don't necessarily have to know. And it just is booking restaurants for you, whatever. I can definitely see that future happening. I had this on the landing page here. This might be a slightly out of order. But, you know, you have, like, sort of three use cases for browser base. Open Operator. Or this is the operator sort of use case. It's kind of like the workflow automation use case. And it completes with UiPath in the sort of RPA category. Would you agree with that? Yeah, I would agree with that. And then there's Agents we talked about already. And web scraping, which I imagine would be the bulk of your workload right now, right?Paul [00:43:40]: No, not at all. I'd say actually, like, the majority is browser automation. We're kind of expensive for web scraping. Like, I think that if you're building a web scraping product, if you need to do occasional web scraping or you have to do web scraping that works every single time, you want to use browser automation. Yeah. You want to use browser-based. But if you're building web scraping workflows, what you should do is have a waterfall. You should have the first request is a curl to the website. See if you can get it without even using a browser. And then the second request may be, like, a scraping-specific API. There's, like, a thousand scraping APIs out there that you can use to try and get data. Scraping B. Scraping B is a great example, right? Yeah. And then, like, if those two don't work, bring out the heavy hitter. Like, browser-based will 100% work, right? It will load the page in a real browser, hydrate it. I see.swyx [00:44:21]: Because a lot of people don't render to JS.swyx [00:44:25]: Yeah, exactly.Paul [00:44:26]: So, I mean, the three big use cases, right? Like, you know, automation, web data collection, and then, you know, if you're building anything agentic that needs, like, a browser tool, you want to use browser-based.Alessio [00:44:35]: Is there any use case that, like, you were super surprised by that people might not even think about? Oh, yeah. Or is it, yeah, anything that you can share? The long tail is crazy. Yeah.Surprising use cases of BrowserbasePaul [00:44:44]: One of the case studies on our website that I think is the most interesting is this company called Benny. So, the way that it works is if you're on food stamps in the United States, you can actually get rebates if you buy certain things. Yeah. You buy some vegetables. You submit your receipt to the government. They'll give you a little rebate back. Say, hey, thanks for buying vegetables. It's good for you. That process of submitting that receipt is very painful. And the way Benny works is you use their app to take a photo of your receipt, and then Benny will go submit that receipt for you and then deposit the money into your account. That's actually using no AI at all. It's all, like, hard-coded scripts. They maintain the scripts. They've been doing a great job. And they build this amazing consumer app. But it's an example of, like, all these, like, tedious workflows that people have to do to kind of go about their business. And they're doing it for the sake of their day-to-day lives. And I had never known about, like, food stamp rebates or the complex forms you have to do to fill them. But the world is powered by millions and millions of tedious forms, visas. You know, Emirate Lighthouse is a customer, right? You know, they do the O1 visa. Millions and millions of forms are taking away humans' time. And I hope that Browserbase can help power software that automates away the web forms that we don't need anymore. Yeah.swyx [00:45:49]: I mean, I'm very supportive of that. I mean, forms. I do think, like, government itself is a big part of it. I think the government itself should embrace AI more to do more sort of human-friendly form filling. Mm-hmm. But I'm not optimistic. I'm not holding my breath. Yeah. We'll see. Okay. I think I'm about to zoom out. I have a little brief thing on computer use, and then we can talk about founder stuff, which is, I tend to think of developer tooling markets in impossible triangles, where everyone starts in a niche, and then they start to branch out. So I already hinted at a little bit of this, right? We mentioned more. We mentioned E2B. We mentioned Firecrawl. And then there's Browserbase. So there's, like, all this stuff of, like, have serverless virtual computer that you give to an agent and let them do stuff with it. And there's various ways of connecting it to the internet. You can just connect to a search API, like SERP API, whatever other, like, EXA is another one. That's what you're searching. You can also have a JSON markdown extractor, which is Firecrawl. Or you can have a virtual browser like Browserbase, or you can have a virtual machine like Morph. And then there's also maybe, like, a virtual sort of code environment, like Code Interpreter. So, like, there's just, like, a bunch of different ways to tackle the problem of give a computer to an agent. And I'm just kind of wondering if you see, like, everyone's just, like, happily coexisting in their respective niches. And as a developer, I just go and pick, like, a shopping basket of one of each. Or do you think that you eventually, people will collide?Future of browser automation and market competitionPaul [00:47:18]: I think that currently it's not a zero-sum market. Like, I think we're talking about... I think we're talking about all of knowledge work that people do that can be automated online. All of these, like, trillions of hours that happen online where people are working. And I think that there's so much software to be built that, like, I tend not to think about how these companies will collide. I just try to solve the problem as best as I can and make this specific piece of infrastructure, which I think is an important primitive, the best I possibly can. And yeah. I think there's players that are actually going to like it. I think there's players that are going to launch, like, over-the-top, you know, platforms, like agent platforms that have all these tools built in, right? Like, who's building the rippling for agent tools that has the search tool, the browser tool, the operating system tool, right? There are some. There are some. There are some, right? And I think in the end, what I have seen as my time as a developer, and I look at all the favorite tools that I have, is that, like, for tools and primitives with sufficient levels of complexity, you need to have a solution that's really bespoke to that primitive, you know? And I am sufficiently convinced that the browser is complex enough to deserve a primitive. Obviously, I have to. I'm the founder of BrowserBase, right? I'm talking my book. But, like, I think maybe I can give you one spicy take against, like, maybe just whole OS running. I think that when I look at computer use when it first came out, I saw that the majority of use cases for computer use were controlling a browser. And do we really need to run an entire operating system just to control a browser? I don't think so. I don't think that's necessary. You know, BrowserBase can run browsers for way cheaper than you can if you're running a full-fledged OS with a GUI, you know, operating system. And I think that's just an advantage of the browser. It is, like, browsers are little OSs, and you can run them very efficiently if you orchestrate it well. And I think that allows us to offer 90% of the, you know, functionality in the platform needed at 10% of the cost of running a full OS. Yeah.Open Operator: Browserbase's Open-Source Alternativeswyx [00:49:16]: I definitely see the logic in that. There's a Mark Andreessen quote. I don't know if you know this one. Where he basically observed that the browser is turning the operating system into a poorly debugged set of device drivers, because most of the apps are moved from the OS to the browser. So you can just run browsers.Paul [00:49:31]: There's a place for OSs, too. Like, I think that there are some applications that only run on Windows operating systems. And Eric from pig.dev in this upcoming YC batch, or last YC batch, like, he's building all run tons of Windows operating systems for you to control with your agent. And like, there's some legacy EHR systems that only run on Internet-controlled systems. Yeah.Paul [00:49:54]: I think that's it. I think, like, there are use cases for specific operating systems for specific legacy software. And like, I'm excited to see what he does with that. I just wanted to give a shout out to the pig.dev website.swyx [00:50:06]: The pigs jump when you click on them. Yeah. That's great.Paul [00:50:08]: Eric, he's the former co-founder of banana.dev, too.swyx [00:50:11]: Oh, that Eric. Yeah. That Eric. Okay. Well, he abandoned bananas for pigs. I hope he doesn't start going around with pigs now.Alessio [00:50:18]: Like he was going around with bananas. A little toy pig. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. What else are we missing? I think we covered a lot of, like, the browser-based product history, but. What do you wish people asked you? Yeah.Paul [00:50:29]: I wish people asked me more about, like, what will the future of software look like? Because I think that's really where I've spent a lot of time about why do browser-based. Like, for me, starting a company is like a means of last resort. Like, you shouldn't start a company unless you absolutely have to. And I remain convinced that the future of software is software that you're going to click a button and it's going to do stuff on your behalf. Right now, software. You click a button and it maybe, like, calls it back an API and, like, computes some numbers. It, like, modifies some text, whatever. But the future of software is software using software. So, I may log into my accounting website for my business, click a button, and it's going to go load up my Gmail, search my emails, find the thing, upload the receipt, and then comment it for me. Right? And it may use it using APIs, maybe a browser. I don't know. I think it's a little bit of both. But that's completely different from how we've built software so far. And that's. I think that future of software has different infrastructure requirements. It's going to require different UIs. It's going to require different pieces of infrastructure. I think the browser infrastructure is one piece that fits into that, along with all the other categories you mentioned. So, I think that it's going to require developers to think differently about how they've built software for, you know

Why do some countries have a seemingly endless supply of talent in certain fields? From Jamaica's sprinters to South Korea's golfers, public policy professor Anirudh Krishna explains why "talent ladders" — structured pathways to identify and nurture people's potential — are the best way to make sure everyone has the opportunity to thrive.

Why do some countries have a seemingly endless supply of talent in certain fields? From Jamaica's sprinters to South Korea's golfers, public policy professor Anirudh Krishna explains why "talent ladders" — structured pathways to identify and nurture people's potential — are the best way to make sure everyone has the opportunity to thrive.

Guest: Dr. Anirudh Prabhu Artificial intelligence is rapidly becoming a part of every aspect of our lives—and science is no exception. Data scientist Dr. Anirudh Prabhu returns to the show to discuss the 2024 Nobel Prizes involving AI. Then, Anirudh and Mike use the Lower Decks episode "The Stars at Night" as a launchpad to talk about how they're using AI to help search for signs of life in the universe. Anirudh & Mike's paper "A robust, agnostic molecular biosignature based on machine learning": https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2307149120 Mike & Anirudh's paper "Toward Network-Based Planetary Biosignatures": https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2022JE007658 Follow us on Bluesky! Mike: https://bsky.app/profile/miquai.bsky.social Anirudh: https://bsky.app/profile/anirudhprabhu.bsky.social

Welcome to ELI - the place where you get your daily dose of entrepreneurial inspiration. In this episode, we chat with Anirudh V., the founder of Trailytics, an AI-powered data aggregation and analytics platform. Anirudh shares his journey from engineering to entrepreneurship, the challenges in the analytics domain, and how Trailytics is revolutionizing data insights across industries.

In this episode of the Label Machine Series, the hosts delve into how artists and record labels are navigating music monetization, joined by Michael "MJ" Jacob, co-founder and CEO of Lemonade.ai, and Ani Mani, the company's Chief Science Officer and also a co-founder. Lemonade.ai aims to revolutionize the music industry with ethical AI tools that support creators' rights. MJ, with a background as a musician, is focused on using AI to empower artists and help them maintain control over their work in a rapidly evolving tech landscape. Ani, with a strong foundation in both artificial intelligence and music technology, leads Lemonade.ai's development of innovative AI-driven tools. His work centers around enhancing musical creativity through technology, ensuring that AI is used to support rather than replace artists. Together, MJ and Ani share a vision for transforming how AI intersects with the music industry, advocating for tools that benefit musicians and prioritize ethical practices. The episode begins with a discussion of MJ and Ani's roles and contributions to Lemonade.ai. They highlight the importance of accurate titles in the context of professional impact, reinforcing how roles like theirs shape Lemonade's vision. MJ and Ani's approach emphasizes ethical technology use, addressing common industry concerns about AI, such as the risk of automation replacing creative jobs. Instead, they advocate for AI as a supportive resource, enhancing what artists can do rather than diminishing their role. Throughout the conversation, MJ and Ani emphasize their dedication to the artist's perspective, especially around issues of rights and compensation. By using AI tools thoughtfully, they aim to create solutions that allow artists to leverage technology without sacrificing their creative autonomy or ownership. This focus on the musician's interests and rights has driven Lemonade's growth as a pioneering AI company in the music industry. The duo discusses various tools Lemonade is working on, designed to streamline creative processes, boost productivity, and open new possibilities for artists to explore their art in unique ways. In summary, this episode sheds light on Lemonade.ai's mission to reshape music through ethical AI, underscoring MJ and Ani's commitment to empowering artists and preserving their creative integrity in a tech-centered future.

In this episode of the Label Machine Series, the hosts delve into how artists and record labels are navigating music monetization, joined by Michael "MJ" Jacob, co-founder and CEO of Lemonade.ai, and Ani Mani, the company's Chief Science Officer and also a co-founder. Lemonade.ai aims to revolutionize the music industry with ethical AI tools that support creators' rights. MJ, with a background as a musician, is focused on using AI to empower artists and help them maintain control over their work in a rapidly evolving tech landscape. Ani, with a strong foundation in both artificial intelligence and music technology, leads Lemonade.ai's development of innovative AI-driven tools. His work centers around enhancing musical creativity through technology, ensuring that AI is used to support rather than replace artists. Together, MJ and Ani share a vision for transforming how AI intersects with the music industry, advocating for tools that benefit musicians and prioritize ethical practices. The episode begins with a discussion of MJ and Ani's roles and contributions to Lemonade.ai. They highlight the importance of accurate titles in the context of professional impact, reinforcing how roles like theirs shape Lemonade's vision. MJ and Ani's approach emphasizes ethical technology use, addressing common industry concerns about AI, such as the risk of automation replacing creative jobs. Instead, they advocate for AI as a supportive resource, enhancing what artists can do rather than diminishing their role. Throughout the conversation, MJ and Ani emphasize their dedication to the artist's perspective, especially around issues of rights and compensation. By using AI tools thoughtfully, they aim to create solutions that allow artists to leverage technology without sacrificing their creative autonomy or ownership. This focus on the musician's interests and rights has driven Lemonade's growth as a pioneering AI company in the music industry. The duo discusses various tools Lemonade is working on, designed to streamline creative processes, boost productivity, and open new possibilities for artists to explore their art in unique ways. In summary, this episode sheds light on Lemonade.ai's mission to reshape music through ethical AI, underscoring MJ and Ani's commitment to empowering artists and preserving their creative integrity in a tech-centered future.

Here is the my Review on the movie Devara the movie 1 st half is so good jr NTR did his job as usual superb I felt Jahnavi Kapoor was wasted she have very little scenes and a single song and villain role could be more better than this 2 nd half was not that good the climax was predictable coming to direction koratala siva did he is job well coming to visuals of this movie is eye feast coming to music and bgm bow to Anirudh. apart from movie I spoke few random things in this podcast thanks for listening and supporting signing off this is sathvik from Tea Time Stories https://www.instagram.com/the__reddy__/?locale=zh-hans

Welcome to Top of the Morning by Mint, your weekday newscast that brings you five major stories from the world of business. It's Friday, September 20, 2024. My name is Nelson John. Let's get started. On Thursday, Indian equity markets hit another record high following the US Federal Reserve's decision to cut interest rates by 50 basis points—double the expected 25-point reduction. Harsha Jethmalani notes that Indian markets are anticipating further rate cuts ahead. While the European Central Bank has already reduced rates, Harsha points out that the RBI may refrain from doing the same due to persistent inflationary pressures.This week, dozens were injured and some killed across Lebanon and Syria after pagers exploded. Hezbollah had been using these low-tech devices to communicate, fearing smartphones could be tracked. These pagers, which only receive messages via radio frequencies and aren't connected to any network, offer a lower-tech alternative. Leslie D'Monte reports that despite their perceived redundancy, pagers and walkie-talkies are still widely sold. He also notes that cellphones and smartphones, equipped with GPS tracking, are even more vulnerable to such attacks.The Adani Group is on a shopping spree. The budget? Around 7 billion dollars. Anirudh Laskar reports that this amount would be spread across cement, airports, defence, ports, and FMCG. The deals are supposed to be concluded in the current financial year. While the conglomerate has completed over 60 acquisitions in recent years, activity paused following the Hindenburg Research report in early 2023. Anirudh notes that in its three-decade history, the company has never embarked on such an aggressive expansion plan.In the pre-pandemic era, Indian startups and their investors were fixated on one key metric: Gross Merchandise Value (GMV), which measures total sales without accounting for discounts or operational costs. This focus drove rapid growth, backed by abundant investment. However, the pandemic shifted attention towards unit economics, pushing investors to scrutinize profitability per rupee spent as startup losses mounted. This transition marked a shift from celebrating growth at any cost to prioritizing financial sustainability. Priyamvada C reports that many Indian startups are now adopting this more sustainable approach, with a renewed focus on improving their unit economics.Goa's picturesque beaches and vibrant nightlife have long been a magnet for tourists, but in recent years, the region has also emerged as a hotbed for real estate development. Spurred by the pandemic, demand for 'second homes' in Goa has surged, with luxury homes and premium plots reaching record prices. Property portals like 99acres.com and Housing.com now list residential plots in Goa for up to ₹5 crore, highlighting the intense interest in the market. However, this boom is not without challenges, writes Madhurima Nandy. The rapid transformation has raised local concerns about the sustainability of such growth and the preservation of Goa's cultural and environmental heritage. Markets want Fed to go fast and furious on rate cutsPager bombs: Are low-tech devices sitting ducks?Adani's resurgence: A $5-7 bn war chest for cement, ports, defence acquisitionsFrom growth at all costs to sustainable growth: the maturing of Indian startupsLiving in paradise: The great Goa realty rush

- Download Hitwicket FREE for iOS/Android and build your dream team! - https://app.adjust.com/1d5n4oe9- Nord VPN Link: https://nordvpn.com/kimber This episode of Red Inker is about how good Marcus Stoinis is at T20 World Cups. For that we got the man who has crunched the numbers, Anirudh Suresh. We talk about batting positional all rounders, his dot balls, hitting sixes, ODI struggles, and how - thankfully - he doesn't even have to bowl anymore.-To support the podcast please go to our Patreon page. https://www.patreon.com/user?u=32090121. Jarrod also now has a Buy Me A Coffee link, for those who would prefer to support the shows there: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/jarrodkimber.Each week, Jarrod Kimber hosts a live talk show on a Youtube live stream, where you can pop in and ask Jarrod a question live on air. Find Jarrod on Youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/c/JarrodKimberYT.To check out my video podcasts on Youtube : https://youtube.com/@JarrodKimberPodcasts-This podcast is edited and mixed by Ishit Kuberkar, he's at https://instagram.com/soundpotionstudio & https://twitter.com/ishitkMukunda Bandreddi is in charge of our video side.

- Download Hitwicket FREE for iOS/Android and build your dream team! - https://app.adjust.com/1d5n4oe9- Nord VPN Link: https://nordvpn.com/kimber This episode of Red Inker is about one of the weirdest games of cricket never played. To tell this story we got on the person who has written the most about it, Anirudh Suresh. We talk about Shakib al Hasan, what a super over is, the Bangla Tigers, social media black outs, how much covers cost, and how this all makes me want to hit my head against a wall.-To support the podcast please go to our Patreon page. https://www.patreon.com/user?u=32090121. Jarrod also now has a Buy Me A Coffee link, for those who would prefer to support the shows there: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/jarrodkimber.Each week, Jarrod Kimber hosts a live talk show on a Youtube live stream, where you can pop in and ask Jarrod a question live on air. Find Jarrod on Youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/c/JarrodKimberYT.To check out my video podcasts on Youtube : https://youtube.com/@JarrodKimberPodcasts-This podcast is edited and mixed by Ishit Kuberkar, he's at https://instagram.com/soundpotionstudio & https://twitter.com/ishitkMukunda Bandreddi is in charge of our video side.

Today my guest is Anirudh Burman. He is an associate research director and fellow at Carnegie Endowment India, and prior to that, he worked at the National Institute of Public Finance and Policy and the Centre for Policy Research, both in New Delhi. He has his master's in law from Harvard Law School. We spoke about the dysfunctional land markets and the kinds of reforms required in land use policy, land sale and land transfers. We also talked about the various experiments with land pooling and leasing in India, how to think about eminent domain law, land titling, land title insurance and much more.  Recorded July 15th, 2024. Read a full transcript enhanced with helpful links. Connect with Ideas of India Follow us on X Follow Shruti on X Follow Anirudh on X Click here for the latest Ideas of India episodes sent straight to your inbox. Timestamps (00:00:00) - Intro (00:02:46) - How does India's Land Market work? (00:15:23) - Why do we have such bad regulation? (00:23:519) - Land Transfer and Consolidation (00:40:35) - Transitioning to an efficient land regulation system (00:45:25) - Eminent Domain (01:05:35) - Land Leasing (01:11:01) - Land Pooling (01:28:37) - Outro

On May 28, 2024, Semiotic Labs, a core developer team working on The Graph, released an exciting new white paper titled "The Graph as AI Infrastructure." This paper details the upcoming launch of two new AI services to be built on The Graph: the Inference Service and the Agent Service. The paper also explores what makes The Graph the best place to service the convergence of web3, blockchain data, and AI. In addition to all this, Semiotic Labs also announced a two-week public demo of their ChatGPT-like AI product called Agentc, which was built using The Graph.To help us better understand the details of the white paper, understand these new AI services, and comprehend the implications for the future of The Graph, I've invited Anirudh Patel, or Ani, back onto the podcast. Ani's been on the podcast several times now, but he's back for this special release and will answer these questions and more!Don't forget to check out the show notes for links to all the resources Ani and I discuss, as well as transcripts of our conversation!Show Notes and TranscriptsThe GRTiQ Podcast takes listeners inside web3 and The Graph (GRT) by interviewing members of the ecosystem.  Please help support this project and build the community by subscribing and leaving a review.Twitter: GRT_iQwww.GRTiQ.com 

COOLIE - #Thalaivar171 Title Teaser Reaction!  | Superstar Rajinikanth | Lokesh Kanagaraj | Anirudh! Kathy and Amit @D54pod react to the epic COOLIE - #Thalaivar171 Title Teaser, an upcoming Tamil film starring the Superstar Rajinkanth! #coolie #thalaivar #rajinikanth #lokeshkanagaraj #anirudh #thalaivar171 #coolietitleteaserGet early access to these reviews by joining Patreon or our YouTube channel! YouTube Membershiphttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvt8UhKoTahIIRGIwxzUVVA/joinPatreonhttps://www.patreon.com/CinemondoPodcastJoin this channel to get access to fun perks like exclusive content and private Discord channel!:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvt8UhKoTahIIRGIwxzUVVA/joinOfficial Swag https://shop.spreadshirt.com/cinemondoNew videos daily!!Subscribe for the latest movie reviewshttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvt8UhKoTahIIRGIwxzUVVA?sub_confirmation=1

Anirudh sits down with Ben and Maddison and teaches us all about Hinduism and India and the connections to Pokemon. We'll look at the Galar connection, some of our favorite mons, and talk about just how diverse one of the world's largest religions truly is. Come join us on discord: https://discord.gg/7AJKk7G4q9 This podcast is not licensed or endorsed by Nintendo, Pokémon, Creatures Inc., or GAME FREAK

Discover the charming journey of Kavya and Anirudh in 'Do Aur Do Pyaar,' as they reignite their love after 12 years of marriage. This Hindi adaptation of 'The Lovers' explores the dynamics of relationships with humor and warmth. Vidya Balan and Pratik Gandhi shine in this relatable tale of rediscovery, where love, friendship, and intimacy take center stage. Does the film come together and prove be as fresh as the on-screen pairings, or does this become another slumber rom-com? Follow Us Onhttp://instagram.com/filmcompanionhttps://www.twitter.com/filmcompanion⁠ ⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/filmcompanion⁠Find us on YouTube:⁠https://www.youtube.com/@FilmCompanion⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@FilmCompanionSouth⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@FilmCompanionLocal⁠https://www.youtube.com/@ReviewsandMore.⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@FilmCompanionShorts⁠

We all know Carl loves cats. But did you know that Carl is actually a super-rich millionaire who loves cats so much that when he dies, he wants his vast fortune to be spent on trying to teach cats to read? Which might actually be impossible! Should people get to decide what happens with their money after they are gone? Even if what they want is ridiculous?Brains Trust – Westmead Public School, Sydney: Swetha, Reyansh, Anirudh, Reya, Kushagra, Ashvita

There's a small village of elves who have a magical gemstone that brings them great prosperity. But one day a group of fairies turn up claiming the stone originally belonged to them. Hundreds of years ago, the elves' ancestors stole it from them, and now they want it back. So what's the right thing to do? Who should get to keep the gem?Brains Trust – Westmead Public School, Sydney: Swetha, Reyansh, Anirudh, Reya, Kushagra, Ashvita

Molly is a superfan of the singer Jackfruit Jones (don't try Googling him, we made him up). But she's in for a shock when Carl tells her what Jackfruit is like in real life. Jackfruit Jones has done some bad stuff! So should she keep listening to his music? And can you dislike the artist and still love the art?Brains Trust – Westmead Public School, Sydney: Swetha, Reyansh, Anirudh, Reya, Kushagra, Ashvita

Anirudh Ravichander dissects his musical journey with Anupama Chopra, with a tour of his incredible garage studio. From his debut sensation "Why This Kolaveri Di", to orchestrating scores for blockbuster films like Jawan, Jailer, Vikram & Leo - the composer takes us through his collaborations with eminent directors like Atlee, Lokesh Kanagaraj, Nelson. He also tells us about the process of creating for superstars like Rajinikanth, Kamal Haasan and Shah Rukh Khan. Follow Us Onhttp://instagram.com/filmcompanionhttps://www.twitter.com/filmcompanion⁠ ⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/filmcompanion⁠Find us on YouTube:⁠https://www.youtube.com/@FilmCompanion⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@FilmCompanionSouth⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@FilmCompanionLocal⁠https://www.youtube.com/@ReviewsandMore.⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@FilmCompanionShorts⁠ (

Join us for a captivating conversation with Anirudh, founder of Hashfame, as we explore 'The Rise of Creator Culture.' Gain valuable insights into the shifting dynamics of content creation, the role of influencers as innovators, and strategic approaches for brands to engage and succeed in this evolving landscape. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jillian, Ben, Anirudh, and Maddison sit down and answer your submitted questions on this special Pokemon Day celebration. Come join us on discord: https://discord.gg/7AJKk7G4q9 This podcast is not licensed or endorsed by Nintendo, Pokémon, Creatures Inc., or GAME FREAK

Season 2 of Who's That Podcast Host is here with the rest of the cast. First up, it's Anirudh. Maddison sits down with Anirudh to shine light into what makes our favorite economist tick.

Jillian, Ben, Anirudh, and Maddison sit down and answer your submitted questions on this special Pokemon Day celebration. Come join us on discord: https://discord.gg/7AJKk7G4q9 This podcast is not licensed or endorsed by Nintendo, Pokémon, Creatures Inc., or GAME FREAK

Ben, Maddison, and Anirudh are live at Ohayocon. They are taking a look at some familiar monsters from the podcast, as well as some new monsters. They'll talk about using them as a DM, some plot hooks, and of course the lore and inspirations behind your favorite tabletop RPG. Special Event Schedule: February 15th- Pictionary Night in our Discord February 18th- Through the Ultra Wormhole Live (on Youtube) February 23rd- Lyla's Lessons Live (on Youtube) February 27th- PokeScience Live Q&A (on Youtube) [send in questions] Send in your questions here: https://forms.gle/ywiMbpta1M1EbPMw8 Our February Podcast Release Schedule: February 5th- PokeScience Live February 12th- PokEnomics Live February 19th- BenRichten's Guide to Monsters and Lore Live February 26th- Through the Ultra Wormhole Live February 28th- Lyla's Lessons Live February 29th- PokeScience Q&A Live Come join us on discord: https://discord.gg/7AJKk7G4q9

Anirudh, Maddison, and Ben team up to tackle the basics of economics. Anirudh leads the team through a crash course on supply and demand, automation, UBI, taxation, monopolies, markets, and opportunity cost. Then the team takes a look at what the economics of being a Pokemon Trainer. Special Event Schedule: February 15th- Pictionary Night in our Discord February 18th- Through the Ultra Wormhole Live (on Youtube) February 23rd- Lyla's Lessons Live (on Youtube) February 27th- PokeScience Live Q&A (on Youtube) [send in questions] Send in your questions here: https://forms.gle/ywiMbpta1M1EbPMw8 Our February Podcast Release Schedule: February 5th- PokeScience Live February 12th- PokEnomics Live February 19th- BenRichten's Guide to Monsters and Lore Live February 26th- Through the Ultra Wormhole Live February 28th- Lyla's Lessons Live February 29th- PokeScience Q&A Live Come join us on discord: https://discord.gg/7AJKk7G4q9 This podcast is not licensed or endorsed by Nintendo, Pokémon, Creatures Inc., or GAME FREAK

We have New Delhi-bred, Singapore-based artist Anirudh Singh Chohan in the studio this week, as he chats with Mae about how his Dad introduced him to music from Mozart to ghazals to Simon & Garfunkel, starting an Instagram Live show during the pandemic, and about his extensive guitar collection. He also tells more about his debut EP Unequal Music, from which he plays us two songs and another unreleased track specially for Maed in India   —   Song List: ‎Nickel & Steel (01:02 - 04:17) High Hopes (15:06 - 18:27) A Loving Hand (24:53 - 28:18)   —   Follow Anirudh: Instagram: @anirudhchohan Twitter: @anirudh_chohan   Come be our friend: Facebook @maedinindia Instagram @maedinindia Twitter @maedinindia   CREDITS: Host: Mae Twitter: @maebemaebe Instagram: @maemariyam Sound Editing & Additional engineering by: Lakshman Parsuram Episode Mixed & Mastered by: Kartik Kulkarni Producer: Shaun Fanthome and Husein Haveliwala Music Mixed by: Ashyar Balsara Recorded at Island City Studios

Today I am speaking with Aniurdh “Ani” Patel, Senior Research Scientist at Semiotic Labs. Long-time listeners might recognize Ani from a previous appearance on our podcast, Ep. 106, where he, alongside his colleagues Sam and Tomasz, explored into the intriguing crossroads of AI, web3, and The GraphI am delighted to welcome Ani back for a comprehensive interview, where we explore his professional and educational journey, including learning about Ani's passion for travel. We then talk about web3 and crypto, tracing the path that led Ani to Semiotic Labs - as you'll hear, Ani's entry into The Graph ecosystem shares a familiar thread, as he, like some other guests, made his introduction through Sandia Labs. Our conversation also weaves through many great insights into artificial intelligence and machine learning. Towards the interview's conclusion, Ani unveils an exciting development: Semiotic Labs is launching an innovative LLM product called AgentC.Show Notes and TranscriptsThe GRTiQ Podcast takes listeners inside web3 and The Graph (GRT) by interviewing members of the ecosystem.  Please help support this project and build the community by subscribing and leaving a review.Twitter: GRT_iQwww.GRTiQ.com

Anirudh Suri is a venture capitalist, technology entrepreneur and policy advisor. He is the managing partner of India Internet Fund, a US and India-based technology venture capital fund, and author of The Great Tech Game: Shaping Geopolitics and the Destinies of Nations (HarperCollins, 2022). Previously, he worked with the Government of India in Delhi, McKinsey and Co. in New York, the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington DC, and Goldman Sachs in London. ​Anirudh completed his MBA from the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania and his MPA from the Harvard Kennedy School. He studied Economics and International Relations at the London School of Economics and Haverford College. He has served on the global board of the Harvard Alumni Association and was the president of the Harvard Club of India from 2017–19.

Do you wonder why companies continue to invest in products despite them being clearly not worth it? Or why do you stay in the theatre despite the movie clearly not being any good? Why do I continue to throw my Pokeballs in Pokemon Go, despite the Pokemon clearly not wanting to join my team? All of this falls under the facinating topic of the "sunk cost fallacy", and Anirudh of PokeNomics will break it down here! An interesting article: https://www.invenglobal.com/articles/10/how-behavioral-economics-works-in-pokemon-go Come join us on discord: https://discord.gg/7AJKk7G4q9 This podcast is not licensed or endorsed by Nintendo, Pokémon, Creatures Inc., or GAME FREAK

LEO Film Review! SPOILERS | Tamil | Thalapathy Vijay | Lokesh Kanagaraj | Anirudh Ravichander! Kathy and Melanie @PardesiReviews go for a deep dive review of the latest film taking the box office by storm,  LEO, a 2023 Indian Tamil action thriller directed by Lokesh Kanagaraj as part of his Lokesh Cinematic Universe.LEO stars Vijay in the titular role, alongside Sanjay Dutt, Arjun, Trisha, Madonna Sebastian, Gautham Vasudev Menon, Mysskin, Mansoor Ali Khan, George Maryan, Priya Anand and Mathew Thomas. It is inspired by David Cronenberg's A History of Violence (2005), which was an adaptation of the graphic novel of the same name.#leo #thalapathyvijay #sanjaydutt #lokeshkanagaraj Get early access to these reviews by joining Patreon or our YouTube channel! YouTube Membershiphttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvt8UhKoTahIIRGIwxzUVVA/joinPatreonhttps://www.patreon.com/CinemondoPodcastJoin this channel to get access to fun perks like exclusive content and private Discord channel!:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvt8UhKoTahIIRGIwxzUVVA/joinOfficial Swag https://shop.spreadshirt.com/cinemondoNew videos daily!!Subscribe for the latest movie reviewshttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvt8UhKoTahIIRGIwxzUVVA?sub_confirmation=1

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Anirudh is back with another episode of PokEnomics. This time he's going to teach us all about Game Theory, no not Video Game Theory. What is this economic and psychological concept? How does it work? How does it play on our actions? How does it impact competitive Pokemon?

Anirudh is back and ready to explain to us what is absolute and comparative advantage. We also get to understand the cost of opportunity, the opportunity cost. Come join us on discord: https://discord.gg/7AJKk7G4q9 This podcast is not licensed or endorsed by Nintendo, Pokémon, Creatures Inc., or GAME FREAK

Jawan Prevue Reaction! Shah Rukh Khan | Atlee |Nayanthara |Vijay Sethupathi | Anirudh! Kathy and Burk react to the insane new trailer for Jawan, starring SRK! #jawan #srk #shahrukh #vijaysethupathi #anirudh Just imagine, what happens when Shah Rukh Khan, an all-star cast, intense action sequences, and a soundtrack by Anirudh Ravichander collide in one epic movie trailer? That's exactly what we're exploring in our latest podcast episode. Join us as we react to SRK's latest movie trailer, a spectacle that amps up the excitement with badass female assassins, a mysterious Phantom of the Opera mask, and slow-motion flying stunts. Believe us when we say the 90's vibe is real, thanks to an unexpected rap number, and we're more than thrilled to speculate on SRK's dual role and the hinted dance scene with Deepika Kone.Now, who's the hero and who's the villain? This question, along with our theories on the dual roles of the main character, takes center stage in our discussion of the movie's complex plot. We're also evaluating the impact of music in setting the scene and mood of the movie, and if the chosen soundtrack aligns with the overall theme. The excitement, speculation and first impressions are all here. So, hit play and join us on a cinematic journey, sharing your thoughts and theories as we dissect this trailer like Sherlock Holmes, but with a lot more laughter.Get early access to these reviews by joining Patreon or our YouTube channel! YouTube Membershiphttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvt8UhKoTahIIRGIwxzUVVA/joinPatreonhttps://www.patreon.com/CinemondoPodcastJoin this channel to get access to fun perks like exclusive content and private Discord channel!:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvt8UhKoTahIIRGIwxzUVVA/joinOfficial Swag https://shop.spreadshirt.com/cinemondoNew videos daily!!Subscribe for the latest movie reviewshttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvt8UhKoTahIIRGIwxzUVVA?sub_confirmation=1

On this episode Anirudh, Jared, and Maddison sit down with the famous Rock Man Ethan. We talk all about landforms, how they change, a whole rundown of geomorphology. How accurate are the Pokemon games at representing landforms? Well listen to find out. You can find Ethan: https://linktr.ee/rockmanethan Come join us on discord: https://discord.gg/7AJKk7G4q9 This podcast is not licensed or endorsed by Nintendo, Pokémon, Creatures Inc., or GAME FREAK

A perfect place to continue your Not A Scratch journey, this is the summary episode for Arc 4! Anirudh goes over the major plot points and world building of the arc. If you are a new listener trying to catch up quickly, or an old listener remembering the past, this is the PERFECT episode for you!  Links Transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zwh2ZVgcy7sRnL5iV7T8x4pgV-46-lln/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=107728641315531501364&rtpof=true&sd=true DM: Anirudh  Ralph: Mansour  Kyle: Muhammad  The map: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠SPOILER_map.PNG (1604×809) (discordapp.com)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/notascratch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website: www.notascratchcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠AhdurinRegion Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/theahdurinregion⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Podcast Twitter Link: https://twitter.com/NotAScratchCast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠DM's Twitter Link: https://twitter.com/AhdurinRegion⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Discord link: https://discord.gg/kfhBdkTDnX⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠AhdurinRegion YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClRPG86yjATufmxvrgcfAVA⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muhammad/LumiShen YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4QJYoKfnhEIr61eYflfkWg⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Other Show: Ahdurin Region Sports: https://anchor.fm/ahdurin-region-sports⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Other Show: Ahdurin Talks Sports: https://anchor.fm/anirudh45⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The AhdurinCast Feed - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://theahdurincast.podbean.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Music by GlitchxCity: https://www.youtube.com/user/GlitchxCity/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Music by TableTop Audio: https://tabletopaudio.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Music by Bit by Bit Sound: https://bit-by-bit-sound.itch.io/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Promo in episode: N/A. Make sure to follow, subscribe, and do all those important things that you should do when supporting a podcast!

This time on "PokEnomics" Anirudh looks at the Pokédollar or as he lovingly dubs it, the Poké. We look at, why does every game use the same currency, why are items always priced so similarly, and how does that work? We've always said that Pokédollars are Yen, but maybe it's time we see them as the Euro instead. Come join us on discord: https://discord.gg/7AJKk7G4q9 This podcast is not licensed or endorsed by Nintendo, Pokémon, Creatures Inc., or GAME FREAK

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The Chola dynasty of centuries-old saw the rise of popular and determined kings that consolidated lands in southern and eastern India, the Indian Ocean, and even as far as south-east Asia. Their influence was unparalleled at the time, with King Rajaraja Chola I setting up a political, social, cultural, and economic landscape that took the empire through almost a dozen centuries.  But before Rajaraja Chola, there was an internal war for power and control -- and two of its central characters may have been -- Nandini, a mysterious woman that made it to the top of the Chola food chain, and Kundavai, who was the sister of Rajaraja Chola. History, legend, myth, and fiction make the stories around Nandini and Kundavai a bit blurry -- who were they and how did they rise to power? Did they even hold real power, during a time when being born male was paramount to all else? And more importantly… did they even exist?  We bring on board guest Anirudh Kanisetti to help us navigate through the murky waters of Chola history. Anirudh is an Indian historian, author of 'Lords of the Deccan: Southern India from the Chalukyas to the Cholas', and host of 'Echoes of India: A History Podcast', right here on IVM Podcasts network.  About Anirudh: Anirudh Kanisetti is the award-winning author of Lords of the Deccan, a new history of medieval South India. He received the Tata Literature Live! Best Nonfiction Book of the Year award in 2022, and was featured in THE WEEK's 40 Under 40 list for India's most promising creatives, as well as Open The Magazine's Open Minds 2022 Soft Power list. His research has received grants from the Princeton Center for Digital Humanities and the India Foundation for the Arts. His writings and work have been featured in The Hindu, The New Indian Express, and LiveMint, among others. He writes the weekly Thinking Medieval column for ThePrint. He hosts three popular and critically acclaimed podcasts – Echoes of India, Yuddha, and The Altar of Time. Important Links: Anirudh's Column: https://theprint.in/author/anirudh-kanisetti/ Lords Of The Deccan:Southern  India From Chalukyas To Cholas: https://www.amazon.in/LORDS-DECCAN-Southern-Chalukyas-Cholas/dp/9391165052/ Echoes of India: A History Podcast: https://bit.ly/3N0FM85 Meme emperor at Chola Bhatura Empire: https://www.instagram.com/cholabhaturaempire/?hl=en  Find out more at -https://episodes.ivmpodcasts.com/miss-conduct-blog  You can follow our hosts on Instagram: Miss Conduct: https://instagram.com/missconductpod Ragavi: https://www.instagram.com/ragi.dosai/ Nisha: https://www.instagram.com/just.nishful.thinking/ Do follow IVM Podcasts on social media: We are @IVMPodcasts on Facebook, Twitter, & Instagram. Follow the show across platforms: Spotify, Apple Podcasts, JioSaavan, Gaana, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music Disclaimer: The views, opinions, and statements expressed in the episodes of the shows hosted on the IVM Podcasts network are solely those of the individual participants, hosts, and guests, and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of IVM Podcasts or its management. IVM Podcasts does not endorse or assume responsibility for any content, claims, or representations made by the participants during the shows. This includes, but is not limited to, the accuracy, completeness, or reliability of any information provided. Any reliance you place on such information is strictly at your own risk. IVM Podcasts is not liable for any direct, indirect, consequential, or incidental damages arising out of or in connection with the use or dissemination of the content featured in the shows. Listener discretion is advised.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome to the first episode of PokEnomics an entire miniseries on economics and the Pokemon world. Join PokEnomics host Anirudh as he helps us look at various economic issues in our world with through the Pokemon World. This time we are looking at Stadiums. Who pays for them in our world? How do they work in the Pokemon world? How are they funded in the Pokemon world?

Guest: Dr. Anirudh Prabhu What's the history of artificial intelligence, and where is A.I. headed next? Most importantly, how close are we to creating Data? In the second half of Mike's conversation with data scientist Dr. Anirudh Prabhu, we explore all of these questions—and more! Anirudh's website: https://www.anirudhprabhu.com/ Follow us on Twitter! Strange New Worlds: twitter.com/scienceoftrek Mike: twitter.com/miquai Anirudh: twitter.com/Anirudh_14

Crypto has been always been likened to an echo chamber, where crypto-natives reinforce their beliefs over and over again with others on Twitter   Contrarian and long-term thinkers are rare, and today on Blockcrunch we have just the guest to talk about investing in frontiers that most crypto-natives have yet to pick up   Anirudh Pai, Partner at Dragonfly, shares with us: What it means to invest at the frontier Building an actual city with Praxis 2 overlooked verticals that are likely to take off in the future   Host: Jason Choi @mrjasonchoi . Not financial advice.   Timestamps: (00:00:00) – Introduction to Ani (00:05:28) – Investing happens at the frontier (00:10:28) – Decentralized Science (00:19:29) – Ani's thesis on metaverses (00:25:26) – Building a physical crypto city with Praxis (00:40:17) – The next big crypto verticals (00:44:47) – Successful founders are polymaths Sponsor message: Filecoin is enabling open services for data, built on top of IPFS.   Today, Filecoin focuses primarily on storage as an open service, but looks to build the infrastructure to store, distribute and transform data.   Join the Space Warp program (Live until March 2023) to be among the first to build on the Filecoin Virtual Machine (FVM) https://spacewarp.fvm.dev/   More Resources: Guest Anirudh Pai's Twitter: https://twitter.com/ani_pai     Blockcrunch Blockcrunch VIP: https://blockcrunch.substack.com/ Blockcrunch Twitter: https://twitter.com/theBlockcrunch Jason Choi's Twitter: https://twitter.com/mrjasonchoi     Disclaimer: The Blockcrunch Podcast (“Blockcrunch”) is an educational resource intended for informational purposes only. Blockcrunch produces a weekly podcast and newsletter that routinely covers projects in Web 3 and may discuss assets that the host or its guests have financial exposure to. Views held by Blockcrunch's guests are their own. None of Blockcrunch, its registered entity or any of its affiliated personnel are licensed to provide any type of financial advice, and nothing on Blockcrunch's podcast, newsletter, website and social media should be construed as financial advice. Blockcrunch also receives compensation from its sponsor; sponsorship messages do not constitute financial advice or endorsement.   Full disclaimer: https://blockcrunch.substack.com/about  

Anirudh, Chelsea, and Brittany take a look at your Reptile and Anole questions in this episode. his podcast is not licensed or endorsed by Nintendo, Pokémon, Creatures Inc., or GAME FREAK

Maddison, Jared, and Anirudh sit down and answer your plant questions!