Podcasts about PMF

Brian Balfour, Founder & CEO of Reforge and former VP of Growth at HubSpot, joins Mostly Growth to explore why product-market fit is a moving target. He introduces the concept of the Product-Market Fit Treadmill, a state where rising customer expectations and competitive pressure make it harder than ever to stay ahead. Brian breaks down how AI has accelerated PMF collapse, explains the hidden costs of product adoption, and shares how Reforge shipped five AI-native products with a team of just 20 people. Packed with frameworks, strategic insight, and startup realism, this episode is essential listening for product leaders, operators, and founders navigating the next wave of GTM.—SPONSORS:Pulley is the cap table management platform built for CFOs and finance leaders who need reliable, audit-ready data and intuitive workflows, without the hidden fees or unreliable support. Switch in as little as 5 days and get 25% off your first year: https://pulley.com/mostlymetricsMetronome is real-time billing built for modern software companies. Metronome turns raw usage events into accurate invoices, gives customers bills they actually understand, and keeps finance, product, and engineering perfectly in sync. That's why category-defining companies like OpenAI and Anthropic trust Metronome to power usage-based pricing and enterprise contracts at scale. Focus on your product — not your billing. Learn more and get started at https://www.metronome.com—LINKS:Mostly Metrics: https://www.mostlymetrics.comCJ on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cj-gustafson-13140948/Growth Unhinged: https://www.growthunhinged.com/Kyle on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-poyar/Brian Balfour: brianbalfour.comBrian on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bbalfour/Slacker Stuff: https://www.slackerstuff.com/Ben on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/slackerstuff/https://brianbalfour.com/four-fits-growth-frameworkhttps://x.com/amasad/status/1981201454032703662?s=46https://getlatka.com/companies/firefliesaihttps://x.com/rowancheung/status/1988218743952916537?https://gamma.app/insights/how-we-built-a-usd100m-business-differently—RELATED EPISODES:When the marketing math doesn't math | with Emily Kramerhttps://youtu.be/sSuoV_YSrlwWhy Founders Are Posting Sad Dinnershttps://youtu.be/Zl6NSIHF2Gk—TIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Preview and Intro00:01:51 Sponsors – Pulley, Metronome00:04:11 Introducing Brian Balfour & Reforge background00:07:22 Evergreen frameworks & Four Fits resurgence00:11:01 PMF treadmill and rising expectations00:14:26 AI shocks and PMF collapse (Chegg)00:16:43 CRM expectations & AI-native workflows00:20:44 R&D as ongoing cost to serve00:22:26 Customers buying based on future product velocity00:24:32 Communicating rapid releases & driving adoption00:25:17 Reforge's expanding AI product suite00:27:52 Product delivery vs. product adoption bottlenecks00:29:32 Platform distribution shifts introduction00:30:51 Evaluating emerging platforms00:32:04 The open → close platform cycle00:33:31 Moats, escape velocity & platform dominance00:36:32 Choosing major vs. emerging platforms00:40:22 ChatGPT dominance in AI discovery00:42:16 Hiring, resumes & filtering AI-generated applications00:43:30 AI note-taking market & “Flintstoning”00:47:03 Trying Gamma & AI-generated presentation tools00:50:08 AI onboarding innovations (WhatsApp agent)#MostlyGrowthPodcast #ProductMarketFit #BrianBalfour #StartupStrategy #Reforge This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit cjgustafson.substack.com

Rahul Vohra is the Founder and CEO of Superhuman Mail.Rahul sold his company to Grammarly in July of 2025, which had just acquired Coda in 2024. Following the acquisitions, the combined companies rebranded to Superhuman in October of 2025.And it's quietly one of the most underrated businesses that no one is talking about, with over $700 million ARR and 40 million Daily Active Users. Grammarly spent 15+ years building integrations with over a million other products, that they're now layering more AI products on top of.We talk about Rahul's journey building Superhuman, go inside the acquisition, all the lessons he's learned from selling two companies, why you should design your product like a video game, and we also re-visit his famous quantitative guide to finding PMF.Thanks to Todd Goldberg, Ed Sim, Shomik Ghosh, Ryan Hoover, and Rahul's brother Gaurav Vohra for helping brainstorm topics for this conversation.Thank you to Hanover Park for supporting this episode! Upgrade your fund admin to the 21st century https://www.hanoverpark.com/TurnerTimestamps:(2:42) Inside the Superhuman acquisition(11:09) Grammarly: $700M ARR, 40M DAUs(18:53) How to sequence your product roadmap(24:43) Vision for the new Superhuman(32:43) Build your product like a video game(38:24) Designing Karamja island in Runescape(41:10) Build products like toys and games(44:53) Starting a Machine Learning PhD in 2006(48:49) Dropping out to start his first company(50:47) Rapportive's crazy accidental launch(57:56) Meeting Superhuman co-founders(1:02:17) Being 1 of 20 to access LinkedIn's API(1:06:38) Almost getting acquired by LinkedIn(1:10:32) Nearly dieing, getting acquired with 2 weeks of runway(1:20:08) Diligence from VCs vs Acquirers(1:26:37) Rahul's quantitative framework for PMF(1:30:45) How to build an enduring brand(1:31:51) Rahul's AI-powered productivity stack(1:35:01) Todd and Rahul's angel fund(1:36:45) We need more solo foundersReferencedSuperhuman: https://www.superhuman.comGrammarly: https://www.grammarly.comHigh Resolution Fundraising: https://paulgraham.com/hiresfund.htmlHigh Resolution Fundraising: https://paulgraham.com/hiresfund.htmlSuperhuman Quantitative Framework for Finding PMF: https://review.firstround.com/how-superhuman-built-an-engine-to-find-product-market-fit/Whisper Flow: https://wisprflow.aiFollow RahulTwitter: https://x.com/rahulvohraLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rahulvohra/Follow TurnerTwitter: https://twitter.com/TurnerNovakLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/turnernovakSubscribe to my newsletter to get every episode + the transcript in your inbox every week: https://www.thespl.it/

How to Find Product-Market Fit (Without Fooling Yourself) Founders love to sprint. Markets prefer you walk, listen, and maybe ask a few humans what they actually want. In this episode, product leader and startup advisor Shweta Agrawal joins Rina to break down why so many early-stage teams skip the fundamentals  (customer discovery, focus, ICP clarity) and pay the price later. From health-tech to ed-tech to “AI for everyone” tools, Shweta shares raw stories, red flags, and the simple practices that separate wishful thinking from real traction. Key Topics Discussed in This Episode Why Founders Keep Skipping Customer Discovery Shweta explains why “I know the market because I am the market” is the fastest path to building something no one pays for — and how to break that pattern early. Product-Market Fit Signals That Actually Matter Renewals, retention, usage depth, early-adopter behavior — and why the infamous “40% Would Be Very Disappointed” test still slaps in 2025. When (and Whether) You're Ready for Go-to-Market The building blocks founders overlook: ICP focus, positioning by region, partners who actually have reach, and the risks of going global before you even have 20 happy users.  Why Listen to This Episode? In this thought-provoking episode, you'll gain: A reality check on the biggest founder blind spots (and how to avoid them). A practical walkthrough of PMF signals that aren't vanity metrics. A step-by-step look at launching intentionally — not reactively. Lessons on adapting your product for different regions, cultures, and buying habits. Whether you're a PM or a founder, this episode will recalibrate your instincts and help you build with confidence, not guesswork.  Related Resources Check out these additional tools and resources to add to your PM belt: Productside Resource Library More Productside Stories Podcast Episodes Explore Productside Courses 

Early-stage founders often claim they've reached product market fit, but when you look closer, it's usually built on vibes, not data. In this episode of In Demand, Asia and Kim unpack what real product market fit looks like, how to measure it quantitatively, and why most early-stage SaaS companies are too quick to assume they've found it.  If you've ever wondered how to know when you've actually hit product market fit, or if you might be fooling yourself, this episode gives you the frameworks and numbers to tell the difference. Got a question you'd like Asia to unpack on the podcast? Record a voicemail here. Links:  DemandMaven Previous In Demand Episodes that discuss NRR: episode 46 and episode 37 Superhuman Product Market Fit Survey ProfitWell Chart Mogul Chapters (00:02:20) - What is product market fit, and how was it historically measured?(00:07:00) - The product market fit survey and its limitations.(00:11:30) - Gross customer retention (GCR) as an underrated metric for measuring product market fit.(00:16:00) - Net Revenue Retention (NRR) as a deeper sign of product-market alignment.(00:20:10) - How GCR and NRR tell different parts of the story.(00:26:05) - Secondary indicators: churn rate, close rate, and trial-to-paid conversions.(00:28:05) - Why cohorting/segmenting reveals where PMF actually exists.(00:34:50) - You might have PMF for one segment but not another.(00:36:45) - The cautionary tale of assuming PMF too soon and how DemandMaven sets expectations with new clients.(00:44:30) - The reality check: if you've never charged customers, you don't have PMF.

It's Etiquette Finishing School Day at Slow Ventures, Sam dials in from the Four Seasons in a Brioni suit to recap Slow's first-ever Etiquette School—covering caviar bumps, sommelier tips, and the “low heart rate” approach to leadership. The crew argue that etiquette now matters in tech because trust is scarce and “PMF-only” is an outdated YC-era story. Jess also unpacks details from Apple's Gemini deal, Sequoia's leadership shuffle, Anthropic's latest numbers, and crypto's meme-driven chaos. Watch till the end for free No Kings and Queens of Corbet protest tees from Sam.Chapters:02:33 Etiquette Day at Slow — Sam's recap from the Four Seasons07:00 Why etiquette matters for founders in 202513:20 Apple x Google: Gemini to power Siri17:24 Apple's AI strategy: Restricting Spend on AI20:04 LLMs vs search the new user behavior shift27:40 Sequoia's leadership handoff36:44 Meme coin corner Jelly's 400M rise and community-led products47:55 Waymo swarms El Camino AI meets the real world50:30 Sam's "No Kings and Queens" merchWe're also on ↓X: https://twitter.com/moreorlesspodInstagram: https://instagram.com/moreorlessYouTube: https://youtu.be/zv4VdtKpQQkConnect with us here:1) Sam Lessin: https://x.com/lessin2) Dave Morin: https://x.com/davemorin3) Jessica Lessin: https://x.com/Jessicalessin4) Brit Morin: https://x.com/brit

BlueRock is building an agentic security fabric to protect organizations deploying AI agents and MCP workflows. With a $25 Million Series A, founder Bob Tinker is tackling what he sees as a 10x larger opportunity than mobile's enterprise disruption. Bob previously scaled MobileIron from zero to $150 million in five years and took it public in 2014. In this episode of Category Visionaries, Bob shares the strategic mistakes that cost MobileIron its category positioning, why go-to-market fit is the missing framework between PMF and scale, and how B2B marketing has fundamentally transformed in just 18 months. Topics Discussed: Taking a company public: the killer marketing event versus the unexpected team psychology challenges of daily stock volatility Why agentic AI workflows create unprecedented security challenges at the action and data layer, not just prompts The strategic timing of category definition: MobileIron's cautionary tale of letting Gartner define you as "MDM" when customers bought for security Where enterprise buyers actually get advice now that Gartner's influence has diminished AEO (Answer Engine Optimization) replacing SEO as the primary discovery mechanism for B2B solutions Why 1.0 categories have fundamentally unclear ICPs versus 2.0/3.0 products with crisp buyer personas The "high urgency, low friction" framework for prioritizing what to build in nascent markets Go-to-market fit: the repeatable growth recipe that unlocks scaling post-PMF Unlearning as competitive advantage for second-time founders GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Time your category noun definition strategically: MobileIron focused exclusively on solving the problem (the verb) but waited too long to influence category nomenclature. Gartner labeled it "Mobile Device Management" when customer purchase drivers were security-focused, not management. This misalignment constrained positioning for years with no way to correct it. The framework: lead with verb, but proactively shape the noun before external analysts do it for you. Bob's doing this differently at BlueRock by distinguishing "agentic action security" from "prompt security" early, even while the broader market sorts out AI security taxonomy. Use customer language as category discovery, not invention: Bob's breakthrough on BlueRock positioning came from asking prospects: "How would you describe what we do to your peers?" One prospect distinguished their focus on "the action side - taking AI and taking action on data and tools" versus prompt inspection and AI firewalls. This customer-generated framing revealed the natural fault lines in how practitioners think about the problem space. The tactical application: run this exact question with your first 10-15 qualified prospects and pattern-match their language, rather than workshopping category names internally. Engineer for the "high urgency, low friction" intersection: Bob's filtering criteria for BlueRock's roadmap requires both dimensions simultaneously. When a prospect revealed they were building their own MCP security tools - a signal of acute, unmet pain - they also asked BlueRock to add prompt security features. Bob's framework forced a "no" despite clear demand because it would violate low friction. The discipline: if a feature request fails either test (not urgent enough OR too much friction), it doesn't make the cut, even when prospects explicitly ask for it. Accept ICP ambiguity as a feature, not bug, of 1.0 markets: In 2.0/3.0 categories, you can target "VP of Detection & Response" with precision. In 1.0 markets like agentic security, Bob finds buyers across three distinct orgs: agentic development teams building secure-by-default systems, product security teams inside engineering (not under the CISO), and traditional security organizations. His thesis: this lack of crisp ICP definition is actually a reliable signal you're in a genuinely new market. The response: invest in community engagement across all three buyer types rather than forcing premature segmentation. Shift content strategy from SEO to AEO immediately: Bob identifies the clock speed of marketing change as "breathtaking" - what worked 18 months ago is obsolete. The specific shift: ranking above the fold in Google search is now irrelevant. What matters is appearing in the answer box that ChatGPT or Google Gemini surfaces above traditional results. This isn't incremental SEO optimization - it requires fundamentally restructuring content to feed LLM context windows and answer engines rather than keyword-optimizing for traditional search crawlers. Treat go-to-market fit as a distinct inflection point: Bob observed a consistent pattern across MobileIron, Box (Aaron Levie), Citrix (Mark Templeton), Palo Alto Networks (Mark McLaughlin), and SendGrid (Sameer Dholakia) - all hit PMF, hired salespeople aggressively, burned cash, and stalled growth while boards grew frustrated. The missing concept: PMF proves you can create value; GTM fit proves you can capture it repeatedly. It's the "repeatable growth recipe to find and win customers over and over again." The tactical implication: after PMF, resist pressure to scale headcount and instead obsess over making your first 3-5 sales cycles systematically repeatable before hiring your second AE. Build community as primary discovery in fragmented buyer markets: Bob's most different GTM motion versus five years ago: "We're just out talking to prospects and customers - individual reach outs, hitting people up on LinkedIn, posting in discussion boards, engaging with the community." This isn't supplemental to demand gen; it's replaced traditional top-of-funnel. When prospects exist across multiple personas without clear titles, community presence in Reddit, Stack Overflow, and LinkedIn becomes the only scalable discovery mechanism. The benchmark: successful new tech companies have built communities of early users before they've built repeatable sales motions. Practice systematic unlearning as second-time founder discipline: Bob's most personal insight: "What really got in my way wasn't what I needed to learn. It was what I needed to unlearn." The specific application: he's questioning his entire MobileIron marketing playbook because "blindly applying that eight-year-old playbook to marketing or sales will end in tears." His framework: periodic gut checks asking "What assumptions am I making? How should I think about this differently?" rather than letting inertia drive execution. The meta-lesson: success creates muscle memory that becomes liability without deliberate examination. Second-time founders should actively audit which reflexes to preserve versus discard. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role.  Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM

Harish spent 9 months building Deliver and could barely get 10 customers. The product worked. Merchants liked the fast delivery promise. But nobody was signing up.Then he made two changes—and scaled to $100M in revenue in 2 years. Shopify acquired them for over $2B.Harish says it wasn't about finding product-market fit. It was about finding product-PRICE-market fit. The product was fine. The pricing model was killing them. This episode breaks down why pricing often isn't just a business decision—it's part of your product, how to build self-serve systems that scale to thousands of customers without talking to anyone, and why you must obsess about end users AND economic buyers if you actually want adoption.Harish is now building Augment, an AI company for logistics that just raised an $85M Series A. He shares what he learned shadow-sitting operators for 60 days and why demos mean nothing in the AI era.Why You Should Listen:Why PMF is often not enough—you need  product-price-market fitWhy subtle changes can have huge resultsWhy you need both users AND buyers to love your productHow to master self-serve Keywords:startup podcast, startup podcast for founders, product market fit, pricing strategy, $2B exit, Shopify acquisition, product-price fit, logistics startup, self-serve systems, Amazon fulfillment00:00:00 Intro00:07:06 Starting Deliver in 201700:14:24 Struggling with only 10 customers after 9 months00:19:53 The two changes that changed everything00:23:43 Zero to $100M in 2 years and product-price-market fit00:29:32 How the $2B+ Shopify acquisition happened00:32:07 Starting Augment AI for logistics00:47:35 PMF moments and top advice Send me a message to let me know what you think!

Dheeraj built Nutanix into a $20B public company—then walked away to start DevRev. He just raised a $100M Series A.This episode breaks down why most founders "sell and run" (chase new logos instead of delivering value), why that strategy fails, and how Dheeraj thinks about building platforms with use cases instead of just features. He explains why the biggest opportunities come from bundling and why you need to hit 130%+ NRR to scale in B2B.Dheeraj also shares the two near-death experiences at Nutanix in the first 5 years, how they survived, and what he's building differently at DevRev in the AI-native world.If you're wondering whether you have real PMF, how to think about platforms vs features, or why your existing customers matter more than new ones—this is mandatory listening from someone who's done it twice at massive scale.Why You Should Listen:Learn why PMF at $1M doesn't mean PMF at $10M—and why you have to find it again at every milestoneWhy "sell and run" kills startups—the real work starts after you close the dealSee how platform thinking (not feature thinking) took Nutanix to $1B ARRUnderstand why 30-40% of revenue from existing customers is real PMF Keywords:startup podcast, startup podcast for founders, product market fit, platform thinking, Nutanix founder, enterprise SaaS, net dollar retention, PMF milestones, fastest to $1B, second-time founder00:00:00 Intro00:01:58 Starting Nutanix00:14:24 Why he left a $20B company00:18:53 The DevRev thesis00:27:39 Pre-AI vs post-AI product strategy and the agent shift00:40:57 Platform vs features00:46:25 PMF is not a destination00:48:10 #1 AdviceSend me a message to let me know what you think!

Ben Alarie spent 8 years building Blue J with "partial product market fit"—real customers, real revenue, but no real market pull. Then he made a bet that would either kill the company or 10x it: he put the existing product in maintenance mode and gave his team 6 months to rebuild everything from scratch using a technology that barely worked.Two years later, Blue J went from $2M to $25M in ARR. They're adding 10 new customers every single day. NPS went from 20 to 84.This isn't a story about getting lucky. It's about a founder who knew—with absolute conviction—that the market would eventually arrive, and made sure he was ready when it did. But it's also about the danger of fooling yourself into thinking you have PMF when you only "kind of have PMF."Why You Should Listen:Learn the brutal difference between fake and real PMFDiscover when to abandon millions in existing ARR to go all-in on something elseWhy "time to value" might be the single most important metric for word-of-mouth.See what it takes to survive until the market is ready.Keywords:startup podcast, startup podcast for founders, product market fit, founder journey, early stage startup, startup pivot, AI startup, SaaS growth, founder advice, hypergrowth startupChapters:(00:02:00) Starting BlueJ(00:9:26) Introducing AI to Tax Research(00:12:44) Starting to Build(00:17:03) Not Having True PMF(00:19:44) Believing in Retrieval Augmented Generation(00:25:34) Updating to V2 of BlueJ(00:30:58) The Necessity of Time to Value(00:33:47) When You Knew You Have PMF(00:38:19) One Piece of AdviceSend me a message to let me know what you think!

How did Apurv Agrawal transform SquadStack from a data collection startup into India's leading AI-powered BPO generating ₹200+ crore ARR? This episode reveals the 10-year journey to finding true product-market fit and disrupting India's massive outsourcing industry. Apurv Agrawal, Co-Founder and CEO of SquadStack, shares the remarkable evolution from Squadrun's gig economy roots to becoming India's most advanced AI-native contact center platform. Starting as a horizontal marketplace for data collection tasks, SquadStack pivoted multiple times before discovering their breakthrough in distributed calling services during COVID-19. What began as weekend experiments became enterprise solutions for major brands like Kotak, Axis Bank, and Bajaj. Apurv reveals how they built a billion-interaction dataset, achieved 95% AI implementation success rates while competitors fail, and created a unique hybrid workforce combining stay-at-home professionals with local agencies across tier-2 and tier-3 cities. He candidly discusses the emotional definition of PMF, why founders can't fight market forces, and his contrarian leadership philosophy of "leading with love" that attracted 19% ex-founders to his team. With voice cloning technology and hyper-personalized customer journeys, SquadStack is reshaping how enterprises handle sales, support, and collections through AI-human collaboration. He shared this transformative journey in this insightful conversation with host Akshay Datt, offering invaluable lessons on market timing, vertical focus, and building sustainable competitive moats in the AI era. Key insights you'll discover:

It's Philly Music Fest, and we wanted to highlight one more artist playing the fest this year. KulfiGirls are Abi, Joan, Adesole, and Stephanie, and they are all on the show. Nate Runkel of Yo That's My Jawn is sitting in the host chair this week, and he talks with KulfiGirls about it all: how they met, how they formed up as a band, all the work that went into their LP 'Divinity', the pain of mixing your own record (props to Joan on that one), and how they're constantly floored when people come up to tthe band and tell them how much their music means to them. It's a rare feat to get all members of a band on one conversation, and to have it flow so seamlessly. You'll have a love not only for their music, but for how they work together as a group.  KulfiGirls are playing Philly Music Fest on October 18th at Underground Arts with The Wonder Years and Caracara (who were guests way back on #230). Go to the PMF site for more info on that show and all the other shows this week at venues around Philadelphia. KulfiGirls will also be at Milkboy on November 19th, and in Brooklyn at The Meadows on December 13th. The album 'Divinity' is available now wherever you get your digital music. In honor of Philly Music Fest, all sales of our compilation, 'Want To Play A Song?: Live On 25 O'Clock Vol.1', go to strengthen the charitable giving of the festival. If you can't make it to a show and still want to support the work of PMF and their contributions to the music charities of Philadlephia, you can buy a digital copy of the compilation at our Bandcamp.

Neste episódio do Canary Cast, Marcos Toledo, cofundador e General Partner do Canary, conversa com Allan Paladino, cofundador e CEO da Lastro, empresa fundada em 2021 que está reinventando as transações imobiliárias no Brasil com a Laís — sua “primeira funcionária digital” construída sobre o WhatsApp. A Laís já atende mais de 1.000 imobiliárias, engajando clientes 24/7, qualificando leads, marcando visitas, gerando conexões e respondendo dúvidas em tempo real. O resultado é um aumento de até 60% na conversão de leads em visitas, redução do tempo médio de resposta de 6 horas para 15 segundos e uma nova forma de corretores trabalharem com mais eficiência. No episódio, Allan compartilha sua trajetória do mercado financeiro ao empreendedorismo, o pivot estratégico que levou à criação da Laís e como a Lastro está transformando um dos setores mais fragmentados do país em um ecossistema mais inteligente, eficiente e humano.Convidado: Allan PaladinoAllan Paladino é cofundador e CEO da Lastro. Economista formado pela USP, iniciou sua carreira no Credit Suisse, foi CFO e sócio de uma operação de coworking e, em 2021, fundou a Lastro ao lado de José Thomaz. Hoje lidera a expansão da Laís, agente de AI que já conversa com centenas de milhares de brasileiros todos os meses.Host: Marcos ToledoMarcos Toledo é cofundador e General Partner do Canary, um dos principais fundos de venture capital no Brasil. Antes do Canary, Marcos construiu uma sólida carreira no mercado financeiro, iniciando no JP Morgan e depois cofundando a M Square Investimentos, gestora de ativos líder no país.Highlights do episódio:00:00 – 03:00 Boas-vindas e apresentação 03:01 – 08:30 Início da trajetória profissional do Allan08:31 – 13:50 Primeira experiência empreendedora e entrada no mercado imobiliário13:51 – 18:30 Formação da Lastro: encontro com o co-founder, José Thomaz e a tese inicial18:31 – 23:00 Primeiros sinais de PMF, desafios para atingir escala e decisão de pivot23:01 – 28:20 O impacto da chegada da AI generativa e a virada estratégica para criar a Laís28:21 – 33:00 A Laís como “primeira funcionária digital” das imobiliárias: proposta de valor e casos de uso33:01 – 37:00 O impacto da Laís em números 37:01 – 41:00 A diferença entre vender software e “sell work”: a Laís como funcionária que executa tarefas41:01 – 44:30 Implementação e confiança: como convencer imobiliárias a adotarem AI em suas operações44:31 – 48:00 Roadmap de futuro48:01 – 50:30 Aprendizados: erros, acertos e conselhos para empreendedores em busca de product-market fit50:31 – 52:00 Casos curiosos com a LaísGlossário de termos mencionados ao longo do episódio: Pivot — Mudança estratégica relevante no produto/modelo de negócioAI (Artificial Intelligence) — Inteligência artificial; aqui, tecnologia utilizada para automatizar conversas, tarefas e decisões.Generative AI — IA generativa; modelos que produzem texto/áudio/imagem, usados para dialogar e responder clientes.LLM (Large Language Model) — é um tipo de inteligência artificial (IA) projetado para compreender, gerar e interagir com a linguagem humana. Esses modelos são treinados com um volume massivo de textos e dados da internet, o que lhes permite aprender padrões, relações e contextos para executar diversas tarefas linguísticas.Agentic AI — Abordagem em que “agentes” de IA executam tarefas de ponta a ponta (ex.: qualificar lead, agendar visita).ChatGPT — Aplicativo popular baseado em LLM, citado como marco de adoção em massa de IA.OpenAI — Organização por trás de modelos como GPT; o “Playground” foi citado como ambiente de testes.Playground — Interface web que permite a desenvolvedores e usuários testar, experimentar e interagir diretamente com os modelos de linguagem da OpenAI, como o GPT, sem a necessidade de escrever código. Ele funciona como um "laboratório" onde é possível explorar as capacidades e os limites dos modelos, ajustando parâmetros e visualizando os resultados em tempo real.WhatsApp — Canal principal de comunicação/atendimento no Brasil; a Laís opera nele 24/7.Lead — Potencial cliente que demonstra interesse (ex.: pergunta por um imóvel).Lead Qualification — Qualificação do lead; filtrar/priorizar conforme intenção e perfil.Conversion Rate — Taxa de conversão (ex.: de lead para visita ao imóvel).Cold Lead — Lead “frio”, com baixa intenção ou pouca resposta; a IA ajuda a filtrar/evitar gasto de tempo.B2B (Business-to-Business) — Vendas entre empresas; no caso, Lastro → imobiliárias.Onboarding — Processo de implementação/integração inicial da solução no cliente.CRM (Customer Relationship Management) — Sistema de gestão do relacionamento com clientes; integrações recebem resumos das conversas da Laís.API (Application Programming Interface) — Interface para integrações entre sistemas (site, CRM, portais).Product–Market Fit (PMF) — Ajuste produto–mercado; momento em que o produto resolve uma dor crítica e “vende sozinho”.Founder–Market Fit — Aderência entre a experiência/interesse do fundador e o mercado/problema atacado.Selling Work — Em vez de “vender software”, vender a execução de trabalho (a Laís atua como “funcionária digital”).Vertical / Horizontal — Estratégias de foco. Vertical: resolver profundamente um setor (imobiliário). Horizontal: atender vários setores com a mesma solução.Dashboard — Painel com métricas/insights (ex.: bairros mais demandados, canais com melhor retorno).Roadmap — Cronograma de evolução do produtoScale / Scaling — Escalar; crescer com eficiência Pre-IPO / IPO — Financiamento pré-IPO e oferta pública inicial; citados no histórico do convidado.Slack — Ferramenta de comunicação interna; usada para alertas sobre conversas marcantes da Laís.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What drives real product growth—launching new features, or helping existing ones land? In this episode of The Effortless Podcast, Dheeraj Pandey and Amit Prakash sit down with Ken Rudin, former Head of Growth at Google, Facebook, Zynga, and ThoughtSpot, to unpack 15 years of lessons at the intersection of analytics and product.Ken shares the story of how a simple nudge doubled Google Search engagement, why retention curves are the truest measure of product–market fit, and how startups should think about growth before and after finding PMF. Along the way, he introduces frameworks like ARIA (Analyze, Reduce, Introduce, Assist) and MUD (Meaningful, Unique, Defensible) to help founders systematize growth instead of chasing hacks.From cross-selling in corner-store SaaS to the surprising power of changing a Google Ads hyphen into a vertical bar, this conversation shows why growth is less about tricks and more about rigorous, creative experimentation.Key Topics & Timestamps00:00 – Introduction: Ken's career journey across Zynga, Facebook, Google, and ThoughtSpot02:00 – The Google “Sports Scores” story: Nudges that doubled engagement08:00 – Launches vs. Landings: Why most features stall without growth focus15:00 – When to invest in growth: Signals post-PMF and small-team leverage22:00 – Corner-store SaaS case study: Cross-sell, pricing insights, and awareness gaps27:00 – Counterintuitive nudges: Google Ads and the “– vs. |” experiment32:00 – Growth as a scientific process: Hypotheses, experiments, and iteration35:00 – Retention curves as PMF: Engagement as the strongest proxy43:00 – Common traps: Acquisition obsession and vanity metrics55:00 – Differentiation with MUD: Meaningful, Unique, Defensible advantages01:03:00 – The ARIA framework: Analyze, Reduce, Introduce, Assist01:10:00 – Fun Q&A: TED Talks, awkwardness, posture, and Peter GabrielGuest:Ken Rudin – Growth and analytics leader with senior roles at Google, Facebook, Zynga, and ThoughtSpot. Advisor to startups on scaling growth and building data-driven teams.Hosts:Amit Prakash – Co-founder and CTO at ThoughtSpot, former engineer at Google AdSense and Microsoft Bing.Follow the Host and Guest:Amit PrakashLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/amit-prakash-50719a2/Twitter/X – https://x.com/amitp42Ken RudinLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/kenrudin/Share Your ThoughtsHave questions, comments, or ideas for future episodes? Email us at EffortlessPodcastHQ@gmail.comDon't forget to Like, Comment, and Subscribe for more conversations at the intersection of growth, analytics, and innovation.

In this episode we talk about team structures. As soon as you have employees, you need to decide how to organize them. What are the best organization structures? What are the trade offs? We are here to help! In this episode we answer questions including:How many people should you have reporting to you?When should you hire leaders like a VP of Sales?Do you need product managers?All of these questions were submitted by listeners just like you. You can submit questions for us to answer on our website TheStartupHelpdesk.com or on X/Twitter @thestartuphd - we'd love to hear from you!Your hosts:Sean Byrnes: General Partner, Near Horizon www.nearhorizon.vcAsh Rust: Managing Partner, Sterling Road www.sterlingroad.comNic Meliones: CEO, Navi www.heynavi.comReminder: this is not legal advice or investment advice.Q1: How many people should you have reporting to you?As a startup CEO, you have to delegate management to avoid becoming a bottleneck. The absolute maximum number of people that should report to you at the early stage is 10. A good rule of thumb is to consider how many one-on-one meetings you can realistically handle every two weeks.Your first hires should be leaders who can build and own major functions of the company, such as product, engineering, or sales/marketing. These leaders provide leverage, freeing you up to focus on other critical areas of the business. Managing too many people or managing people who are not leaders of their own functions can prevent you from executing on your core responsibilities. Remember, you want to hire exceptional people to do important work in areas you can't or don't want to do alone.Q2: When should you hire leaders like a VP of Sales?Hire a leader before your time becomes a bottleneck, but be careful to hire the right person at the right time. A "VP of Sales" is typically a scaler, not a builder. They will likely burn out or fail if your company's sales playbook isn't already baked.Founders should own the sales process until it's proven and repeatable. Bring in a VP of Sales when you have a clear Ideal Customer Profile (ICP), have closed multiple deals beyond the initial founder hustle, and can hand them a clear playbook instead of a puzzle to solve.For a sales team of 5-10 people, a Director of Sales with 3+ years of experience is often sufficient. For a team of 10+, you'll likely want a VP with 5+ years of experience. Find someone who can run the sales team better than you can, allowing you to focus on other aspects of the business.Q3: Do you need product managers?There is a lot of debate on this! Don't hire a product manager too early. The CEO is the de facto Product Manager (PM) until you achieve product-market fit (PMF). The learning loop is too critical to delegate at this stage.You know it's time to hire a PM when:Customers love your product and keep using it.You're seeing organic growth or referrals.Engineers are spending too much time in product discussions instead of building.A PM's role is to be the voice of the customer and ensure engineering time is used effectively. The need for an early PM can also depend on your product. For example, a consumer product may need a PM earlier than a developer-focused tool.

In a high-energy session that sparked nods across the room, Lucille and Marc tackled the shifting paradigms in the SaaS market—and made a compelling case for why vertical SaaS is quickly outpacing horizontal models.Marc opened with a candid assessment of the current SaaS landscape. “What's the flaw in the current market?” he asked. In his view, horizontal SaaS faces serious headwinds:AI is leveling the playing field: Tools like AI-assisted coding have lowered the barrier to entry. Startups can now build and scale to $10–20M in revenue without a CTO, making it easier than ever to launch—but harder to stand out.Enterprise sales are brutal: Horizontal SaaS faces challenges in defining clear ICPs (Ideal Customer Profiles), making it harder to gain traction quickly. This often results in sluggish proof points and delayed product-market fit.Vertical SaaS—companies that serve a single, well-defined industry—has several structural advantages that Lucille and Marc believe make it the smarter play:Clear Go-To-Market MotionWith deep domain knowledge, vertical SaaS teams know exactly how to sell and to whom. Their understanding of customer pain points gives them a clear runway for product adoption.Economic Moats from the StartBy solving a niche problem deeply (rather than broadly), vertical SaaS players build sticky products with defensible positioning. This leads to easier upselling and faster PMF (product-market fit).Composable GrowthOnce established in one vertical, these companies can expand into adjacent markets or layers—embedding financial products like payments, insurance, or lending. That transforms them into mini-operating systems for their customers.AI as an Embedded EdgeAI isn't just a buzzword here—it's embedded into the business model. These companies use AI to build smarter workflows, increase automation, and create differentiated products right out of the gate.M&A and Platform PotentialVertical SaaS allows for cleaner M&A and roll-up strategies, given the homogeneity of the user base. This is significantly harder with broad horizontal plays. Layering in APIs and platforms makes them extensible and scalable.Lucille emphasized that success in vertical SaaS hinges on one key ingredient: deep workflow integration. These companies become indispensable to their customers, reducing churn and increasing lifetime value. It's not about shallow features—it's about becoming mission-critical.“The future is not just SaaS—it's vertical SaaS,” Marc concluded. “That's how you build enduring, category-defining software companies.”

Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, we're joined by Gordon Liao, Chief Economist at Circle, to dissect the Stablecoin Wars. From Circle's Arc and Stripe + Paradigm's Tempo, to Solana's native stablecoin push and Hyperliquid's deal, we unpack why everyone suddenly wants their own chain or branded stablecoin. Is this the future of crypto's monetary layer — or just a fragmentation nightmare? We dig into FX use cases, PMF for stablecoins, collective bargaining power of ecosystems, and whether “stablecoin-as-a-service” is the next killer primitive or a liquidity trap. Show highlights

Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, we're joined by Gordon Liao, Chief Economist at Circle, to dissect the Stablecoin Wars. From Circle's Arc and Stripe + Paradigm's Tempo, to Solana's native stablecoin push and Hyperliquid's deal, we unpack why everyone suddenly wants their own chain or branded stablecoin. Is this the future of crypto's monetary layer — or just a fragmentation nightmare? We dig into FX use cases, PMF for stablecoins, collective bargaining power of ecosystems, and whether “stablecoin-as-a-service” is the next killer primitive or a liquidity trap. Show highlights

Billy, founder of Intuition Systems (ex–VC/early crypto), digs into the biggest risk in AI: models trained on garbage, regurgitated data and algorithm-shaped behavior. We unpack how attestations, signed data, and web-of-trust reputation can give both humans and AI better intuition at decision time — from picking a chair to routing agentic AI across platforms.Timestamps[00:00] We're being shaped by algorithms; slop-in → slop-out AI [00:02] Billy's path: distributed systems, fintech, game bots, early Bitcoin [00:05] The problem: fragmented info (web + people's heads) & costly context-switching [00:06] What Intuition is: structured expression + rediscovery + rewards [00:08] Attestations & incentives (economic + reputational) without spam [00:12] Can bots game it? Bonding curves, loss for bad signal, web-of-trust filters [00:18] Best content should win: TikTok-style merit + trust primitives [00:19] Use case #1: AI agents—personalization, agent reputation, platform reputation [00:22] Why these reputations must be decentralized (avoid platform capture) [00:23] GTM: unopinionated dev platform + opinionated apps to show PMF [00:24] Biggest challenges: focus, hitting PMF, AI acceleration outpacing products [00:27] Mission: give AI “intuition” via signed, attributed, reputational data [00:28] Reducing AI's recursive slop problem; verifiable attribution with keys [00:30] Humans act differently per platform; algorithms distort expression [00:33] Call to action: build at the AI × Web3 trust layer; join the community [00:35] Layer Zero Ventures origins (people = Layer 0); why Intuition exists [00:37] Events: Korea Blockchain Week & Token 2049; Intuition side eventsConnecthttps://www.intuition.systems/https://www.linkedin.com/company/0xintuition/https://x.com/0xintuitionhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/william-luedtke-b0a3bb5a/https://x.com/0xbillyDisclaimerNothing mentioned in this podcast is investment advice and please do your own research. Finally, it would mean a lot if you can leave a review of this podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and share this podcast with a friend.Be a guest on the podcast or contact us - https://www.web3pod.xyz/

Poppi is a fashion brand that happens to be soda. Stephen Ellsworth, Co-founder of Poppi, joins us to walk through the operating choices behind turning a vinegar problem into a modern soda badge. It's how you build, scale, and exit a consumer brand. It's another signal that Austin's flywheel is real and accelerating.  Highlights01:48 Dark days, PMF before funding08:05 Farmers market to Whole Foods14:50 Rebrand beat Shark Tank awareness24:58 Poppi as Fashion33:46 Make healthy default via taste38:54 AI palate mapping46:48 Austin needs cross-sector collisions51:40 What's Next Austin?Guest LinksStephen Ellsworth: Instagram, LinkedInPoppi: Website, X, Instagram  -------------------Austin Next Links: Website, X/Twitter, YouTube, LinkedInEcosystem Metacognition Substack

Will, Founder of Phonely, shares his raw journey into Y Combinator—including sleeping in his car before a 3AM interview. He reveals how founders should interpret investor rejections, the real path to product-market fit, and top lessons a long the way. A must-listen for anyone navigating the early-stage PMF journey or getting funded! Will Bodewes https://www.linkedin.com/in/william-bodewes/

Soham co-founded Rubrik by taking what he learned from building Google's data center tech to enterprises desperate for cloud migration. Two quarters later, he hit $1M ARR. And a few years later, a $16B IPO. Soham breaks down why paid pilots beat free trials, how to sell enterprise hardware before it works, and why early customers become your biggest champions when you solve real pain. Now building WisdomAI after watching the ChatGPT moment unfold, he shares what's different about competing in AI's gold rush versus owning an ignored category.Why You Should Listen:Why early customers  endure broken productsHow he hit $1M ARR in 2 quarters selling enterprise hardwareWhy you should always charge for pilotsCustomer feedback is the only PMF signal that mattersKeywords:Rubrik, Soham Mazumdar, enterprise sales, data backup, IPO, product market fit, B2B SaaS, cloud migration, WisdomAI, data centers00:00:00 Intro00:04:26 Leaving Google to start a company00:11:00 Building the founding team00:14:27 Landing the first customer in Australia00:22:30 Hitting $1M ARR in two quarters00:25:42 Go-to-market strategy and the DeLorean stunt00:30:30 When Arvind left to start Glean00:34:10 Starting WisdomAI after the ChatGPT moment00:51:22 Advice for early stage foundersRetryClaude can make mistakes. Please double-check responses.Send me a message to let me know what you think!

Transforming breakthrough research into a sustainable company is never simple — especially in hard tech. In this episode recorded in December 2024, Zero Emission Industries CEO/founder Dr. Joseph Pratt and Chief Strategy Officer John Motlow share what it takes to move hydrogen power systems from the lab to the marketplace. We talk about raising money in tough conditions, why government grants can be both a blessing and a constraint, and how to build teams that thrive under pressure. Along the way, they offer candid lessons on funding, hiring, and navigating timelines that rarely go as planned. RUNTIME 51:52   EPISODE BREAKDOWN (2:11) “ I knew the path on how to solve it and knew that there was demand for it, and took the jump out of the national lab to start the company.” (6:36) “ I didn't jump into this with a big network of investors.” (8:57) How ZEI produced the world's first commercial fuel cell ferry. (10:56) Why the company's first hire was a Chief Strategy Officer. (12:53) John Motlow says he wanted to join ZEI “because it was incredibly risky.” (17:06) Crafting ZEI's GTM strategy for the FCV Vanguard, a hydrogen-powered, high-performance speedboat. (21:55) Is ZEI a transportation company, or a clean tech startup? (24:20) When it comes to deep tech, customer requirements are wayfinders for PMF. (29:47) “Government funding and their insights is sort of half the picture.” (35:30) “ To be clear, we talked to a lot of investors who did not agree with our TAM.” (39:09) Why they overindexed on hiring employees who have a background in motorsports. (42:19) Joe's advice for building specialized teams in a competitive market. (47:38) “ Don't slot someone in there and then forget about it: Where are their strengths?” (49:27) What's next for ZEI? LINKS Zero Emission Industries Dr. Joseph Pratt John Moslow FCV Vanguard — Live Demo (YouTube) ZEI Raises $8.75 Million in Series A Funding SUBSCRIBE

with @AriannaSimpson @jacqmelinekCrypto is known for its high and low market cycles: What must founders know — and what can they do — to survive the swings?In this episode, we unpack the lessons of past crypto cycles and how they shape the current wave of building — from stablecoins to AI x crypto. We also dive into the founder journey: from raising money and staying committed in 2025, to handling copycat competitors, cofounder disputes, growing too fast (or slowly), and more.You'll hear from a16z crypto General Partner Arianna Simpson, who has spent over a decade investing in crypto. She joins Jacquelyn Melinek, cofounder & CEO of Token Relations and host of the Talking Tokens podcast, where this conversation first aired, and which we're excited to share with you here. Timestamps0:00 Introduction1:19 Arianna Simpson's Crypto Origin Story3:23 Market Cycles & Investing Priorities5:52 Interrogating the Stablecoin Trend13:25 Intersection of AI x Crypto17:49 The Role of Blockchains for Authenticity and Verification23:07 Future of AI Agents and Monetization Models27:23 Traits of Successful Crypto Founders30:05 Challenges and Changes in Fundraising33:57 Current State of the Market37:33 Advice for Founders:  • Pivoting when PMF is missing  • Raising capital after bootstrapping  • Competing with copycats  • Cofounder disputes and breakups  • Growing too fast & scaling pains47:52 Conclusion***

In AI, building great technology isn't enough. You can solve a real problem and still struggle to gain adoption. Why? Because Product-Market Fit in AI isn't just about function. It's about trust. That was the central theme in a recent conversation with Gemma Galdon-Clavell, founder of Eticas AI, and Collin Stewart. Their insights highlight why founders can't rely on old playbooks: Strong tech without trust still faces market reluctance. Compliance doesn't equal safety. Guardrails must be built in early. In immature markets, founder-led trust-building comes before scale. Referrals, not polite praise, are the real signal of PMF. Even good VC advice can kill you if it's mistimed. The message is simple: in AI, true PMF is fit plus trust. Highlights include: Adapting to Client Needs in AI Solutions (04:57), Guiding Clients Through Uncertainty (07:06), Evolving Customer Acquisition Strategies (08:02), The Importance of a Strong Management Team (10:21), Navigating VC Relationships (12:25), Marketing and Visibility Challenges (16:22), And more... Stay updated with our podcast and the latest insights in Outbound Sales and Go-to-Market Strategies!

How do you pivot from an early idea that didn't work ➝ to building a global SaaS leader trusted by 700+ enterprises?In this full episode of the Prime Podcast, Khadim Batti (Co-founder & CEO, Whatfix) reveals the raw founder journey:The pivot moment that sparked WhatfixHustling with 500 cold emails to close first customersLanding a Fortune 10 client at $25/month (and why logos matter more than price)Why product-market fit keeps evolvingScaling SaaS from India ➝ US with 85+ Fortune 500 clientsRaising $270M and turning investors into growth partnersHow AI is shaping the future of digital adoption

Ross went from lawyer to self-taught engineer to CTO at a 1,600-person unicorn—then quit to build Wordsmith AI. In 18 months, he's raised $30M and grown to mid-single-digit millions in ARR by doing everything differently. He tested co-founders by starting fights. Built in Slack for 10 months before adding a web interface. Kept his team at 8 people while competitors hired dozens. This episode breaks down his exact playbook: how to test co-founders before committing, why attacking someone's core job kills your sales cycle, and how he accidentally created the hottest seed round by ghosting every VC. Plus the reality of building a rocket ship with a newborn at home.Why You Should Listen:Why starting fights with co-founders can be a great way to test conflict.Why keeping your team at 8 people until PMF lets you move fasterThe accidental fundraising playbook that made VCs go crazyHow having a baby forces you to be 10x more productive as a founderKeywords:Wordsmith AI, Ross McNairn, AI legal tech, product market fit, co-founder selection, Series A, Index Ventures, Slack integration, startup pivots, legal AI00:00:00 - Intro00:01:31 - From Lawyer to CTO00:03:45 - Starting Wordsmith AI00:06:41 - Testing Co-Founder Relationships00:14:42 - Building the MVP00:20:44 - First Product Iterations00:26:39 - Finding Product Market Fit Through Slack00:37:42 - Go-to-Market Using Webinars and Influencers00:47:00 - Balancing Startup Life with a 10-Month-Old BabySend me a message to let me know what you think!

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Gaurav Mishra, Founder of Proshort, shares how a single conversation led to his first big customer win and set the foundation for a multi-million-dollar raise. In this candid conversation, he breaks down the biggest growth unlocks, the vision that inspired investors, and the hype cycle pitfalls that every founder faces. If you're on the journey to PMF, this is the episode for you.

Iraq has dismissed two senior commanders of the paramilitary Popular Mobilisation Forces over a deadly attack on a government building last month. The National has boarded a Jordanian aid flight to Gaza. Hundreds were arrested in London for marching in support of the banned Palestine Action group. On this morning's episode of Trending Middle East: Iraq dismisses two senior PMF commanders over attack on government building Hundreds arrested in London for supporting Palestine Action This episode features Khaled Yacoub Oweis, Jordan correspondent. Editor's note: We want to hear from you! Help us improve our podcasts by taking our 2-minute listener survey. Click here.

Tera AI is pioneering a software-centric approach to robotics, moving away from traditional hardware-dominated solutions toward a unified operating system for robotic platforms. After raising $8 million and transitioning from insurance applications to robotics, the company is building what founder Tony Zhang envisions as "a general purpose operating system for robot platforms" powered by spatial foundation models. In this episode of Category Visionaries, Tony shares his journey from Google X to founding Tera AI, including hard-won lessons about market validation, customer discovery, and the critical importance of understanding buyer priorities. Topics Discussed: Tera AI's evolution from geospatial foundation models in insurance to robotics applications The challenges of customer discovery in regulated industries like insurance Tony's experience at Google X and the ChatGPT moment that sparked entrepreneurial action First Round's Product Market Fit program and structured customer discovery methodology The transition from hardware-centric to software-centric robotics architecture Fundraising strategies and developing instincts for investor feedback Building a team of top-tier AI researchers in a competitive talent market GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Lead with priority validation, not pain discovery: Tony learned the hard way that not every pain point can be solved on a VC timeline. His breakthrough insight was asking upfront: "Tell me if this is one of your top three priorities. If not, tell me what are those three priorities." He discovered that many insurance prospects liked their solution but had more pressing infrastructure problems unrelated to AI. B2B founders should qualify buyer priorities before presenting solutions to avoid getting trapped in lengthy sales cycles for non-critical problems. Understand regulatory constraints early in enterprise markets: Tera AI spent nearly a year in insurance before realizing that regulatory barriers made technology adoption extremely difficult, regardless of product-market fit. Tony explains: "Because of the regulations in America, it is incredibly difficult for an insurer or carrier to adopt new technology, especially technology that was as new as the stuff that we were building." Founders entering regulated industries should map compliance requirements and adoption timelines before committing significant resources. Structure customer discovery to eliminate waste: Through First Round's PMF program, Tony discovered they were doing discovery calls inefficiently, often requiring multiple meetings with the same prospects. The key insight was asking the right qualifying questions upfront rather than leading with solutions. This approach eliminated unnecessary follow-up meetings and accelerated their discovery process by 5x. Founders should develop structured discovery frameworks with clear qualifying criteria before scaling outreach efforts. Market timing requires both technology readiness and buyer urgency: Tony's "ChatGPT moment" wasn't just about technological possibility—it was about recognizing the convergence of technical capability and market readiness. He emphasizes: "It wasn't too early, it wasn't too late." The key was understanding that spatial AI could finally deliver value that buyers were ready to adopt. Founders should evaluate both technical feasibility and market timing when deciding on startup opportunities. Attract talent with novel technical challenges, not just compensation: Despite intense competition for AI talent in Silicon Valley, Tera AI successfully recruits top researchers by offering genuinely innovative work. Tony explains: "We genuinely try to innovate across the entire stack. We build our own models, we build our own datasets, we can write papers on the things we're doing." They target researchers who are "bored to death by the LLM world" and want to work on groundbreaking spatial AI problems. B2B founders should differentiate their companies through technical novelty and research opportunities, not just competitive salaries.     //   Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe.  www.GlobalTalent.co   //   Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM 

Do you have a method to reach Product Market Fit (PMF) with your product?In this episode, we're joined by Giacomo Poggiali, a Sparring Partner for bold partners at Sparring Startups, to learn about his  “Product Engine” framework for reaching PMF. Giacomo is a product coach and repeat founding product leader who has helped over 150 startups navigate the challenging path to product-market fit (PMF). Giacomo shares how his journey began with the lean startup methodology as his thesis, and how he's since applied those principles across design, product, and marketing in early-stage companies. After experiencing the transformation that comes with reaching PMF firsthand, Giacomo became passionate about helping other teams replicate that journey—again and again.We dive into Giacomo's perspective on what PMF really means, moving beyond textbook definitions to describe how it actually feels for a team: the shift from pushing a boulder uphill to racing after it as momentum takes hold. Drawing from years of hands-on experience, Giacomo introduces his “Product Engine” framework—a practical playbook for identifying your most valuable users, uncovering what truly drives value, and systematically removing blockers to adoption.Join Matt and Moshe as they explored with Giacomo:The difference between pre- and post-PMF challenges for product teamsWhat the Product Engine is, and how it helps startups identify their lighthouse users and core valueHow to use behavioral data and qualitative insights to uncover value blockersThe 80/20 approach: why doubling down on core value matters more than fixing every blockerWhen and how to off-board users who aren't a good fitReal-world examples of the Product Engine in action, including pivots and surprising discoveriesApplying the Product Engine to B2B, B2C, and API productsPractical steps for product managers to start implementing the frameworkWhere AI can support the process of finding PMFAdvice for teams and PMs on building something truly valuable—and knowing when you've reached PMFAnd much more!You can connect with Giacomo at:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/giacomopoggiali/ Sparing Startups: https://www.sparringstartups.com/ You can find the podcast's page, and connect with Matt and Moshe on Linkedin:     -  Product for Product Podcast - linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcastMatt Green - linkedin.com/in/mattgreenproduct/Moshe Mikanovsky - linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky/Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests,  and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

This is a must-listen episode for any founders, especially those using “AI Agentic Coding” or “Vibe Coding” to quickly build concepts and now need to think about finding product-market fit. Even if you're an experienced PM, you're bound to expand your aperture and understanding of the “path to PMF” with this episode.In this episode, we sit down with Rob Snyder, a two-time founder and current fellow at Harvard Innovation Lab, to discuss his unique approach to finding product-market fit. Rob shares his journey from McKinsey and Harvard Business School to the realities of startup life, emphasizing the challenges and lessons learned in the 'pain cave.' We delve into the importance of understanding true customer demand, avoiding common discovery pitfalls, and the real meaning of pivoting. Rob also offers insights into his bootcamp and one-on-one coaching for early-stage founders, illustrating how to extract actionable insights from sales calls and get on the same side of the table with potential customers. This conversation is a must-watch for product managers and founders navigating the complexities of the zero-to-one phase of product development. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome02:39 Rob Snyder's Background and Journey04:54 The Importance of Product Market Fit08:42 Understanding Customer Demand14:55 Discovery and Validation in Startups19:48 Navigating Pivots and Iterations23:32 Introduction to Founder Sales25:02 Challenges Founders Face with Sales26:45 Effective Sales Strategies28:31 Bootcamp for Founders31:38 Coaching and Real-World Examples35:48 The Role of AI in Sales Discovery38:00 Finding Product-Market Fit44:27 Working with Rob and Final Thoughts

Chanakya Yerneni didn't want another promotion. He wanted freedom—and the chance to build something of his own.After a decade in enterprise SaaS, he quit corporate, browsed Acquire.com, and bought a small AI grading tool for teachers. It had $5K MRR, no SEO, and no real growth engine.Twelve months later, that product—EssayGrader—is on track to hit $1M ARR.In this episode, Chanakya shares how he evaluated listings, rebuilt the product from scratch, and scaled an EdTech SaaS with product-led growth and word of mouth.You'll learn:How he picked the right SaaS to acquireWhy talking to 400+ customers changed everythingWhat made the product go viral in schoolsHow to approach SEO from zero and winWhy founder fit matters more than perfect metrics3 lessons from Chanakya's exit journey:Start with PMF, not just profitBuild for a customer you deeply understandA clean, focused process beats complexity every timeWhether you're buying your first startup or scaling your next, this episode is a playbook in clarity, conviction, and customer-first growth.Follow Chanakya's journey on LinkedIn.

Out of all the reductions happening across government, one of the lesser-known changes has been the elimination of the Presidential Management Fellows Program. President Trump ended the PMF program back in February in what he called an effort to reduce federal bureaucracy. Now, hundreds of PMF alumni are urging Congress to take action to restore it. Here with more is Federal News Network's Drew Friedman. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

When Jess Gilmartin talks, I listen. If you've been in Silicon Valley long enough, you might have heard of Jess. She's been a full-time CMO, a founder, a startup whisperer, and most recently, one of the sharpest advisors to CEOs I know when it comes to hiring marketing leadership that actually works.In our recent Fireside PM conversation, we went deep on the do's and don'ts of hiring a CMO. While many of my listeners and readers are early- to mid-career product managers, this interview is packed with insight relevant not just to founders and CEOs but to any PM who will eventually be part of a hiring panel, collaborating with marketing peers, or considering their own path to executive leadership.Why Your Company Even Needs a CMOLet's start with first principles. As Jess puts it:“The CMO is the steward of the brand. And brand isn't just your website or ads—it's every interaction a customer has with your company. That includes your support team, your social media presence, your onboarding experience, and yes, your product.”The reason this matters for PMs is simple: we often underestimate the scope and gravity of the brand experience. We build features. We define roadmaps. But we rarely think of the emotional resonance of what we're building.“Part of the job is ensuring consistency and excellence across all these touchpoints,” Jess said. "That also means having the spine to flag when something the product team is doing will degrade that experience."Translation? If you think marketing's job is to "wrap" your product after the work is done, you're missing the point.What Great CMOs Actually Do (Hint: It's Not Just Marketing)One of the biggest wake-up calls for me was hearing Jess talk about the real job of a modern CMO:“When I was a CMO, I had senior leaders under me running product marketing, growth, and comms. I spent most of my time on executive alignment, crisis communications, and internal messaging. I was rarely in the weeds.”That division of labor is a signal. The difference between a head of marketing and a CMO isn't just title inflation—it's scope. A CMO thinks in systems. They think in multi-stakeholder alignment. And above all, they should be one of the CEO's most strategic advisors.Jess broke it down this way:“The biggest mistake founders make is hiring too senior or too junior a marketer for where they are. If you're still pre-product-market-fit, don't hire a head of marketing. You need to be doing that work yourself.”As someone who has worked with a lot of pre-PMF startups, I couldn't agree more. And yet, time and time again, I see companies try to paper over early churn or stagnant growth with splashy campaigns and SEO spend.It doesn't work.Product Managers: Here's What You Keep Getting WrongThere was one part of our conversation where my PM blood pressure rose just a bit. I asked Jess what she does when she's in a cross-functional meeting and the product team is proudly showcasing something... that isn't actually great for the user experience.She smiled:“I try not to have strong opinions on product. That's not my job. But I deeply understand the customer experience. And when I see something that isn't going to land, I raise a fuss. Not all the time—you have to pick your battles—but marketing sees across silos. We're often the ones that spot inconsistencies in the end-to-end experience.”PMs, listen carefully to that last part.We often live in silos—focused on our vertical, our feature, our sprint velocity. Meanwhile, marketing is scanning horizontally, sensing what happens when someone tries to connect the dots. That perspective is invaluable. And if you're lucky enough to work with a CMO or a senior PMM who raises their hand about UX inconsistencies or cross-functional misalignments, treat that as signal, not noise.The Dirty Truth About CMO TenureReady for the most sobering stat of the interview?“Most CMOs last two years,” Jess said flatly.Why? Expectations are sky-high. CEOs want the creativity of Nike, the analytics of Facebook, the virality of TikTok, and the demand gen of HubSpot—all in one human. Oh, and don't forget crisis PR, event strategy, and internal morale-boosting Slack posts.That level of sprawl is untenable.“Marketing is the only function where we expect a single person to be excellent at creative, numbers, product thinking, storytelling, operations, hiring, and analytics,” she said. “It's unrealistic.”So what happens? You hire a CMO for one phase, they nail it, and then two years later the business needs something else. That's not a failure. That's reality.Founders and PM leaders should take note: you're not hiring a CMO to last forever. You're hiring them to solve today's problem exceptionally well.Demand Gen vs. Messaging vs. PMM: Pick Your PoisonThis next insight is gold for any hiring manager:“When hiring a marketing leader, figure out what your biggest problem is. Is it lack of pipeline, weak differentiation, or lack of strategic product alignment? You won't find someone world-class at all three.”Jess described three typical archetypes:* Demand Gen-focused leaders – Performance-oriented, data-driven, often strong in growth loops and paid acquisition but weaker on storytelling or product narrative.* Brand and Messaging experts – They come up through storytelling, design, and content. These are the campaign artists and identity shapers.* PMM-style CMOs – Strong in positioning, go-to-market, launch orchestration, and cross-functional strategy. They see the product and customer journey clearly but may lack deep growth or brand skills.That might be the most important hiring advice in this entire conversation. Every CMO candidate comes from somewhere. What they did before will influence what they do next. The key is aligning that background with your immediate business challenge.If you already have a rockstar PMM but no repeatable pipeline, hire a demand gen-oriented CMO. If you've got leads but they don't convert or your brand is invisible, find a storytelling operator.And if you're a PM moving up the ranks? This is how you should evaluate your marketing counterparts. Don't just ask "are they good?" Ask: are they good at the thing we need most right now?Hiring CMOs: Skip the Case Study, Do the PlanWhen Jess advises founders on hiring a CMO, she doesn't run them through generic behavioral interviews or vague culture fit chats. She makes them present a real plan.“I give them a budget. I give them our current strategy. I ask: 'Show me how you'd spend it and what your plan would be to hit our goals.'”The best candidates, she said, are:* Articulate – They speak clearly, persuasively, and inspire confidence.* Specific – They don't just say "we'll run paid ads" or "we'll increase brand awareness." They tell you how, why, and in what sequence.* Bold – They bring creative energy. One candidate impressed Jess with cheeky, bold challenger messaging that she herself wouldn't have dreamed up.That kind of spark matters. Especially for a role that's supposed to shape how the world feels about your company.Founders: Don't Get Dazzled by LogosPerhaps the spiciest take in the conversation came when I asked Jess about resume signals:“Do not get dazzled by former companies. That senior PMM from Salesforce may not have ever hired a team, built a pipeline, or touched brand messaging.”This hit close to home. As a former Google exec, I know all too well how much people over-index on logos. Jess prefers candidates who have been in the trenches—startup veterans, operators who've hired across functions, people with range.The ultimate test? Jess asks: Did they just run the playbook, or do they know how to build one?Actionable Advice for PMsSo, what should early- and mid-career product managers take from this?* Learn to speak marketing. Understand the difference between PMM, brand, growth, and demand gen. This makes you a better cross-functional partner.* Invite your PMM early. Don't treat them as a launch afterthought. Bring them into ideation, prioritization, and roadmap planning.* Observe how marketing fights. Good CMOs don't just object; they escalate. They build coalitions. Watch how they influence.* Test CMO fit with real-world scenarios. Ask candidates to brainstorm a real strategic decision or messaging conflict. See how they think.* Beware the shiny logo. Ask CMO candidates what they personally owned, who they hired, and what they changed. If you hear too much passive voice, dig deeper.A Final WordIf you're a founder or exec looking to hire your first CMO, I strongly suggest you watch the full interview. And if you're a PM, use this as a lens to reflect on your own career. How well do you understand your marketing counterparts? How would you describe your company's brand? Learn more about Jess here.If you'd like help with your own product leadership journey, I offer 1:1 coaching at tomleungcoaching.com. OK. Enough pontificating. Let's get back to work. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit firesidepm.substack.com

Gm! This is a live episode recorded at Permissionless 2025 with Tzvi (Baxus), Luca (Pudgy Penguins), Armani (Backpack) & Santi (Inversion). We deep dive into how to acquire users in crypto, finding PMF, why it's time to build great apps & more. Enjoy! -- Follow Tzvi: https://x.com/web4O Follow Luca: https://x.com/LucaNetz Follow Armani: https://x.com/armaniferrante Follow Santi: https://x.com/santiagoroel Follow Jack: https://x.com/whosknave Follow Lightspeed: https://twitter.com/Lightspeedpodhq Subscribe to the Lightspeed Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/lightspeed Join the Lightspeed Telegram: https://t.me/+QUl_ZOj2nMJlZTEx -- Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Katana is a DeFi-first chain built for deep liquidity and high yield. No empty emissions, just real yield and sequencer fees routed back to DeFi users. Pre-deposit now: Earn high APRs with Turtle Club [https://app.turtle.club/campaigns/katana] or spin the wheel with Katana Krates [https://app.katana.network/krates] -- Ledger, the global leader in digital asset security, proudly sponsors the Lightspeed podcast. As Ledger celebrates 10 years of securing 20% of global crypto, it remains the top choice for securing your Solana assets. Buy a LEDGER™ device now and build confidently, knowing your SOL are safe. SOL lovers, grab your Ledger Flex Solana Edition now at: https://ecommerce-shop-frontend.stg.ldg-tech.com/products/ledger-flex-solana-edition-sol-eligibility -- (00:00) Introduction (01:26) Acquiring Users In Crypto (06:46) Crypto's Path Forward In The Next 10 Years (13:52) Katana Ad (14:45) Ledger Ad (15:15) Finding PMF In Crypto (20:05) The Next Evolution Of Crypto Exchanges (29:13) Katana Ad (30:05) Ledger Ad (30:35) Why Build Consumer Apps? -- Disclaimers: Lightspeed was kickstarted by a grant from the Solana Foundation. Nothing said on Lightspeed is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mert, Jack, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

David Cramer is the co-founder of Sentry, the leading open-source error monitoring tool used by over 90,000 companies. A self-taught engineer, he went from 9th grade high school dropout and Burger King manager to building one of the most widely adopted developer tools in the world — by working hard and rejecting conventional wisdom. As of 2022, Sentry is valued at over $3 billion. David now serves as Chief Product Officer, after previously holding roles as CEO and CTO. In this episode, we discuss: How David went from managing a Burger King to landing his first job as a software engineer How an code snippet grew into a ubiquitous monitoring platform Why open source is an underrated distribution hack How a ruthless competitive streak and obsession with excellence fueled Sentry's rise And so much more… Referenced: Aaron Levie Beats by Dre Cursor Dan Levine Datadog Disqus Dropbox Heroku Max Levchin Okta Omar Johnson Oracle Sentry Satya Nadella Stripe Uber VS Code WindSurf Y Combinator Yandex Where to find David: LinkedIn Twitter/X Where to find Brett: LinkedIn Twitter/X Where to find First Round Capital: Website First Round Review Twitter/X YouTube Timestamps: (4:01) Learning to code through gaming (6:31) Dropping out of high school (9:47) Building infrastructure at Disqus (10:20) “Software is not that hard” (12:45) Early interest in open source (15:45) The birth of Sentry (23:37) Two common founder mistakes (27:13) David's unwavering focus (28:17) Sentry's journey to venture backing (36:43) Finding conviction in decisions (41:11) How Sentry found PMF (46:34) More confidence, less ego (48:08) Is sales valuable? (51:31) David's personal philosophy (1:01:17) Money is not the hardest problem (1:06:27) Marketing won't fix a bad product (1:10:34) What makes Sentry's market unique (1:16:24) “You're gonna mess up” (1:22:08) Why brand will always matter (1:30:51) Eliminating all competition

In this episode, Mike Zayonc, co-founder at Kodif, shares what finding real traction actually looks like: testing fast, selling early, and staying close to the problem. If you're still guessing at PMF, this conversation will help you stop guessing and start proving. Highlights include: Taking a Leap of Faith (01:00), Validating Your Next Role (03:32), AI Agents for Customer Service (06:43), The Best Ways to Find Good Customers (13:05), and more… Stay updated with our podcast and the latest insights in Outbound Sales and Go-to-Market Strategies!

Follow Proof of Coverage Media: https://x.com/Proof_CoverageConnor, Mahesh, Santi, and Jason are joined by Amir Haleem of Helium to explore the evolving landscape of decentralized networks. They dive into Helium's impressive revenue growth - from $400K to $2.7M per month - driven by its mobile subscriber base, and discuss the complexities of blending off-chain and on-chain revenue. The conversation covers tokenized equity, sustainable business models beyond token sales, and the convergence of crypto with traditional finance. Amir shares how Helium has shifted from a crypto-first approach to prioritizing service delivery and user satisfaction, offering key lessons in product distribution, user retention, and innovative tokenomics.Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction02:25 - Microstrategy and Digital Asset Accumulation  03:42 - Market Trends: Crypto and Wall Street  05:03 - Santi's Perspective on Market Efficiency  06:19 - DePIN Projects and Public Market Strategies  06:41 - Helium's Potential for Going Public  08:50 - Cash Flow and Tokenomics in DePIN12:07 - Helium's Recent Revenue Growth 12:55 - PMF for DePIN Networks  18:03 - User Engagement and Helium's Growth  19:05 - Helium's Revenue Sources Explained  21:06 - Convergence of Off-Chain and On-Chain Revenue  24:12 - Learning from Helium's Evolution  25:03 - Focus on Distribution Over Product  27:27 - Daily Active Users and Their Interaction  31:26 - Valuable Users and Helium's Ecosystem  33:45 - Cloud Points and User Experience  36:44 - Retention Curves: Crypto vs. Traditional Users  39:59 - Aligning Token and Equity Interests  Disclaimer: The hosts and the firms they represent may hold stakes in the companies mentioned in this podcast. None of this is financial advice.

Today, we're talking with Mahesh Guruswamy, CPTO at Kickstarter. In this episode, we discuss: How daily reflection on hard moments helped him grow as a leader—and led to his widely praised book How to Deliver Bad News and Get Away with It. How Kickstarter went from “printing money” and experiencing “insane” PMF to plateauing - and how they created urgency and competition to quickly turn it around The actual process Kickstarter used to activate its creator and backer communities to shape a better UX, build real loyalty, and re-ignite growth Links LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maheshguruswamy/ Website: https://www.maheshguruswamy.com/ Substack: https://maheshguruswamy.substack.com/ Resources How to Deliver Bad News and Get Away with It: A Manager's Guide, By Mahesh Guruswamy: https://www.amazon.com/How-Deliver-Bad-News-Away/dp/B0D7FHTTNN Tell Your CEO They're Wrong (And KEEP Your Career) | Steve Nash, Dir. Product (GumGum): https://youtu.be/oeEBy8mJfB0 Chapters 00:00 Intro 01:09 Mahesh's Background and Kickstarter Connection 02:08 The Power of Writing and Self-Reflection 04:28 Publishing a Book: How to Deliver Bad News 05:53 Effective Communication and Feedback 06:46 Navigating Tough Conversations 11:03 Kickstarter's Evolution and Challenges 14:16 Listening to Customers and Adapting 19:36 Navigating Market Shifts and Growth 20:34 Prioritizing Customer Feedback 25:59 Building and Engaging the Community 29:54 Competitive Strategies and Organizational Culture 34:05 Leadership and Legacy 37:03 Conclusion and Future Prospects Follow LaunchPod on YouTube We have a new YouTube page (https://www.youtube.com/@LaunchPod.byLogRocket)! Watch full episodes of our interviews with PM leaders and subscribe! What does LogRocket do? LogRocket's Galileo AI watches user sessions for you and surfaces the technical and usability issues holding back your web and mobile apps. Understand where your users are struggling by trying it for free at LogRocket.com (https://logrocket.com/signup/?pdr). Special Guest: Mahesh Guruswamy.

Pre-Black Hat crunch time hits Miscreants hard as brand audits pile up and Webflow goes down for half a day. Andrew's new MetaMonster grid shows AI's bipolar nature - brilliant one moment, baffling the next.

Peter shares how they confirmed PMF, got funded (after nearly shutting down) and eventually nailed their beachhead. (00:07:52) Decision to start (00:13:05) VC Rejection (00:16:50) Surviving Financial Struggles in Startup Journey (00:30:14) All in moment - focus shift (00:34:16) Break through (00:41:40) Resilience

Jeff Bussgang of Flybridge Capital joins Nick to discuss Calculating the Market Size for AI, Building an "Experimentation Machine," the Bull Case for Non-Technical Founders, and the Key to PMF in the AI Age. In this episode we cover: Exits and Liquidity in Venture Capital The Experimentation Machine and AI Opportunity Evaluating AI Businesses and Founders Challenges and Opportunities in AI Investing Entrepreneurship Education and Startup Ecosystems Product-Market Fit and Customer Discovery Future of AI and Venture Capital Guest Links: Jeff's LinkedIn Jeff's X Flybridge's LinkedIn Flybridge's Website The host of The Full Ratchet is Nick Moran of New Stack Ventures, a venture capital firm committed to investing in founders outside of the Bay Area. Want to keep up to date with The Full Ratchet? Follow us on social. You can learn more about New Stack Ventures by visiting our LinkedIn and Twitter.

Show Notes: Alex Lugosch and Ilya Druzhnikov, founders of True PMF, explain that True PMF is a rapid prototyping and discovery service for startups and established companies who are releasing a new product or testing a new market and don't have the tools or six to eight months to try new experiments for product market fit. The firm uses cold calling tools to test out different ideas and pitches to potential clients, focusing on understanding the reactions of potential buyers. Ilya explains how their tool saves time and money by improving the cold call process. First Steps in a Cold Call Strategy Alex and Ilya work with a founder to identify their target audience and use tools like ZoomInfo to gather a list of people that fit that profile. They then use cold calling tool to test out different ideas and iterate different pitches to potential clients. They also train the founder to do cold calls, helping them understand the process and find what resonates with potential buyers. The firm often stacks rank lists of 20 audiences to test in the next 20 days, with each experiment taking about two sessions of an hour each. At a certain point, they do turnover, where the founder takes over to learn how to do the process. They use several list building services, data validation services, and dialers to build tight lists, accessing many people at the C-suite that most founders can only dream of contacting. Within one or two calls, they find that those people are picking up on their pitches and talking to them, which is a significant improvement from the traditional six-month process of trying to determine if something is a product market fit. The Cold Call Conversation and Analysis Ilya explains the process, beginning from when they contact the founder, building the initial list, finding direct phone numbers for 80-100 people, and loading them into their enterprise-grade tech stack that few startups can afford.  He goes on to explain how they start the conversation.  They try to make the pitch relevant to the founder and explain that their solution could save time and money while having a positive impact on the bottom line. After the call, the transcript goes directly into the AI model, which produces an analysis of the conversation and offers recommendations on how to proceed. The next step is to determine the outcome of the call. In a typical calling session, there are sometimes upwards of 14 or 15 connects. As the conversation gets closer to the target, the conversations become more rich, with more follow-up emails, scheduled demos, and referrals. It's an iterative process until discovering the audience is interested in the topic and/or the call can be referred to the right person. Cold Calling Techniques The conversation turns to the importance of effective cold pitching techniques. They mention the importance of recognizing what's currently relevant to the client. They also discuss the concept of partnering one person to take a pitch and then alternate to the other person without giving feedback. The key to getting better at cold pitching is focusing on the elements that work in the previous pitch. This technique can be applied to other situations as well, such as listening to each other's tone of voice and understanding their preferences. Alex emphasizes that these techniques are not meant to scale sales but to provide relevant information about messaging and product features that can be used in outbound campaigns that are scalable, such as emails, LinkedIn messages, or conferences. Ilya and Alex give an impromptu example of an opening conversation with mid-market private equity owned portfolio companies. Ilya explains that their informs more effective marketing strategies. This approach helps clients narrow down their ideas about the persona, develop stronger content that connects with their target market(s),  and ensures that their marketing efforts are highly effective. Cost of SDRs Cold Calling The discussion revolves around the cost of cold calling sales development representatives (SDRs) and their effectiveness in B2B product spaces. Emphasis is placed on understanding the messaging and the potential for managing costs. They mention a company with 400 clients across Europe that raised over $50 million and had six SDRs, but none of them were effective. They also mention that a multinational tech startup with a large B2B sales team cannot afford six CROs to run their sales team. They advise against giving cold calls to unskilled SDRs, as they may not be adaptable enough to handle complex situations. However, cold calling is a good prototyping tool, as it allows companies to reach a wider audience, gain insights and understanding of their market, and potentially increase their revenue. Examples of How TruePMF Serves Clients Alex and Ilya initially focused on high-growth e-commerce brands, but later discovered that they needed to target established e-commerce brands looking for margin expansion. They created a new list of these brands and tested it with CTOs, which proved more relevant. Then, they called private equity partners, specifically tech stack operating partners, to expand their reach. This allowed them to sell their solution across multiple brands. Another example is a smaller company with 20 clients, all big enterprise clients, looking to sell to private equity firms. Ilya also discusses the process of selling a product before building it, and emphasizes the importance of honesty and transparency in the sales process.   About the Founders of TruePMF.com Alex Lugosch, a FinTech founder and executive at a wholesale, e-commerce company, and the B2B credit space, and Ilya Druzhnikov, a serial entrepreneur and angel investor, have both been working with founders and CEOs to help them understand Product Market Fit. They have worked in various industries, including B2B wholesale, e-commerce, and angel investing. The website, Pmf.com, is by referral only, and they have a bias for working with serious people who are serious about their business. They require founders to attend every call, including the CEO, Chief Revenue Officer, and Head of Sales. The company has sold their product to 400 companies across Europe and is coming to the United States. Timestamps: 00:02: Introduction to True PMF and Their Unique Approach 03:28: Explaining the True PMF Service  06:35: Detailed Walkthrough of the Process 10:47: Iterative Improvement and Audience Targeting  16:29: The Role of Cold Calling in Business Development  34:04: Client Examples and Success Stories  40:23: Background of Alex and Ilya  Links:  Website: https://truepmf.com/ Unleashed is produced by Umbrex, which has a mission of connecting independent management consultants with one another, creating opportunities for members to meet, build relationships, and share lessons learned. Learn more at www.umbrex.com.

PMF is MIA without JTBD. Make sense? :DThe "job to be done" sits at the core of my customer's use of my product. I need to understand it to understand them. To fathom their needs.This week, I'll share how I approach that — and why it's taken me years to get here.The blog post: https://thebootstrappedfounder.com/the-job-to-be-done-understanding-customer-value-communication/The podcast episode: https://tbf.fm/episodes/388-the-job-to-be-done-understanding-customer-value-communicationCheck out Podscan, the Podcast database that transcribes every podcast episode out there minutes after it gets released: https://podscan.fmSend me a voicemail on Podline: https://podline.fm/arvidYou'll find my weekly article on my blog: https://thebootstrappedfounder.comPodcast: https://thebootstrappedfounder.com/podcastNewsletter: https://thebootstrappedfounder.com/newsletterMy book Zero to Sold: https://zerotosold.com/My book The Embedded Entrepreneur: https://embeddedentrepreneur.com/My course Find Your Following: https://findyourfollowing.comHere are a few tools I use. Using my affiliate links will support my work at no additional cost to you.- Notion (which I use to organize, write, coordinate, and archive my podcast + newsletter): https://affiliate.notion.so/465mv1536drx- Riverside.fm (that's what I recorded this episode with): https://riverside.fm/?via=arvid- TweetHunter (for speedy scheduling and writing Tweets): http://tweethunter.io/?via=arvid- HypeFury (for massive Twitter analytics and scheduling): https://hypefury.com/?via=arvid60- AudioPen (for taking voice notes and getting amazing summaries): https://audiopen.ai/?aff=PXErZ- Descript (for word-based video editing, subtitles, and clips): https://www.descript.com/?lmref=3cf39Q- ConvertKit (for email lists, newsletters, even finding sponsors): https://convertkit.com?lmref=bN9CZw

Everyone loves talking about finding product-market fit. But what if the real challenge in 2025 is keeping it?In this solo episode, I riff on why PMF has become more fleeting than ever. I unpack what Harry Stebbings, Jason Lemkin and Rory O'Driscoll observed —companies that once had a five-year runway now fall out of PMF in five weeks. We explore AI-fueled growth curves, the myth of “escape velocity,” and why today's go-to-market edge can vanish overnight.I also shares a brutal hill from a recent road race (and the startup metaphor it unlocked), plus a text exchange with a growth investor on the hunt for vertical SaaS alpha.If you're an operator, investor, or CFO trying to understand the new physics of scaling, this one's for you.Run the Numbers is sponsored by Gelt. You already know tax season isn't just a deadline—it's a lever.At Gelt, they work with CFOs who aren't just looking to stay compliant—they're looking to unlock strategic value from their tax position. Think: optimized entity structures, real-time visibility across complex ownership, and proactive tax planning that actually moves the needle on cash flow.Gelt gives you quarterly strategy check-ins and proactive estimates, all designed to lower your effective tax rate, protect equity value, and drive long-term efficiency. You get direct access to your Gelt CPA and a clean, modern platform to track it all.Learn if you qualify at go.joingelt.com/mostlymetrics and schedule a call to learn more. Get full access to Mostly metrics at www.mostlymetrics.com/subscribe

Wellness + Wisdom | Episode 730 Could your DNA hold a hidden superpower that's just waiting to be activated by light? Brian Richards, Founder of SaunaSpace, joins Josh Trent on the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast, episode 730, to uncover how near-infrared saunas can help cleanse toxins, support brain function, and even raise your vibrational frequency, and why embracing your innate power to heal is the ultimate path to true freedom. "One of the effects of photobiomodulation is to correct gene transcription = how the DNA is read. The DNA and the epigenetics are being fixed in a much more powerful way with the near-infrared light than they're being damaged by the ultraviolet component of the sunlight. But indoors, we only use damaging light. There's none of the healing light anymore. So to bring ourselves back into balance, we need to get a lot more near-infrared light. And the incandescent bulb uniquely presents itself as a way to do that." - Brian Richards 10% Off SaunaSpace ThermaLight® technology combines the finest tungsten filaments, mouth-blown red-stained glass, and years of engineering to produce a full-spectrum infrared light that mimics the best of nature. Benefits: Compact and portable, hypoallergenic, tool-free assembly, wheelchair accessible, machine-washable cover, minimalist design, ZERO EMFs. All saunas have the same goal: to raise your core body temperature enough to jump-start its natural healing processes. Traditional saunas use steam, fire, or electric heaters to make the air in the sauna hot, which eventually heats up your body from the outside in. Infrared saunas tap into the science of light to help you sweat faster and more comfortably. Save 10% With code "JOSH10" In This Episode, Brian Richards Uncovers: [00:55] Your DNA Creates Light Brian Richards SaunaSpace - 10% off Sauna Space with code "JOSH10" 525 Red Light Therapy For Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) | Brian Richards How our DNA creates light. The difference between far-infrared and near-infrared light. How we need to have compassion for the people who are stuck in the Matrix. What makes us vibrate at a higher frequency. [04:05] Choose Compassion Over Judgment The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz Why there is no benefit to judgment. How compassion is a vehicle for new choices. Be Here Now by Ram Dass We're not truly healed until our family stops triggering us. [06:30] Redefining Biohacking Why we attach a negative meaning to the word "work." How Brian's work is an extension of him and his consciousness. Why SaunaSpace is about being, not about doing. How he's making biohacking and science more heart-focused. Why red light therapy heals us but also enhances the indoor environment. How red light therapy serves as a replacement for fire light. [14:15] The Benefits of Red Light Therapy How SaunaSpace helped Josh's daughter heal jaundice when she was born. Why technology prevents us from connecting with our families. How people gravitate toward the screen because they're constantly stressed out. Why subtle frequencies calm our nervous system, ease stress, and remind us to be ourselves. [18:00] Infrared Sauna VS Regular Sauna How SaunaSpace works holistically to support our well-being. The science of near-infrared light. How man-made EMFs are toxic to us. The difference between an infrared sauna and a regular sauna. Why 15 minutes inside the infrared sauna is enough to get all the benefits. How physical health is not the biggest benefit of the sauna. Why the infrared sauna provides us with more capacity to make lifestyle changes. [25:10] Can Light Change The DNA? How melatonin is produced in the body. Why taking vitamin D supplements is not as efficient as taking light in through the skin. How photobiomodulation corrects gene transcription. Why we only use damaging light indoors. [27:45] How to Get Energy from Light How we can satisfy 70% of our caloric needs through sunlight. Dr. Steven Young Samuel B. Lee The benefits of sun gazing. How we can produce our own energy when we live in alignment with who we truly are. Why we get the benefits of near-infrared light from the sun even on a cloudy day. [33:15] Light + Heat for Optimal Health + Recovery How photobiomodulation supports the healing of traumatic brain injuries. Why light therapy repairs cells and how cells work collectively. How red light therapy helps people heal from stroke. Why heat corrects protein folding. How frequent use of sauna reduces the risk of dementia. [38:10] How to Be Your Authentic Self Why attaching to our programming harms us. How light removes toxins and reactivates cellular rejuvenation. hat it takes to become our best selves. How spiritual and emotional work is an important component of healing. Why our being naturally wants to be authentic. How our guides only help us remember what we already know. Why doing what's aligned with our highest purpose gives us more purpose and happiness. [43:40] The Wounded Healer Why a wounded healer should also focus on their own healing. How the best healers continue to work on themselves. Why curiosity and new experiences reprogram our brain. [46:45] Are You Aware of Your Limitations? How ayahuasca showed Josh that he's not been his true self. Why Brian has been learning about himself through building his business. How experiencing polarity helps us level up in the game. Why we need to take care of the body in order to do the emotional and spiritual work. How physical movement helped Brian realize he was avoiding his emotions. Why taking care of the body has become more accessible to everyone. [54:20] Detoxify Your Body How modern stressors require us to take measures that our ancestors didn't need. Why sauna helps detoxify from toxic chemicals. How we are contaminated with genetically engineered e-coli. Maria Crisler How SaunaSpace and PMF help break up hydrogels in the body. Why the CV-19 vaccine acts like snake venom. Finding Joe (2011) How being true to himself is important for Brian's personal wellness. Why we always have a choice and we can find empowerment instead of victimhood. Leave Wellness + Wisdom a Review on Apple Podcasts Power Quotes From The Show Near-Infrared Light Can Heal Traumatic Brain Injuries "When you have a TBI, you have damage to your nerve cells and your nervous system. The near-infrared light goes into the mitochondria in the brain cells and it promotes regeneration, healing, inflammation reduction, and also anti aging. It corrects the function of the cell itself by helping to re-establish connections and repair the interworking of all the cells together collectively." - Brian Richards We Lack Sunlight "The average American gets five to seven minutes of sunlight a day, just going out to the car on the way to work. We're really deprived of the things that keep us resilient and also allow us to be high frequency and multi-dimensional." - Brian Richards Light Brings Your Back Into Yourself "Light opens us up and brings us back into ourselves. When you go into the SaunaSpace, your thoughts just kind of melts, and you you get grounded back into yourself. It becomes a very transcendental experience. It's not just about healing, it's very meditative." - Brian Richards Links From Today's Show  Brian Richards SaunaSpace - 10% off Sauna Space with code "JOSH10" 525 Red Light Therapy For Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) | Brian Richards The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz Be Here Now by Ram Dass Dr. Steven Young Samuel B. 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In 2013, he founded SaunaSpace®, a company that combines cutting-edge incandescent infrared technology with the age-old practice of sauna. In 2008, Brian faced an important health decision: start taking pharmaceuticals for insomnia, adrenal fatigue, and other health issues or try full-spectrum sauna therapy coupled with ancestral practices like a clean diet, proper sleep, and yoga. By opting for the natural approach, Brian rapidly transformed his health. This life-changing experience inspired him to create SaunaSpace®. In his journey to develop the perfect product, Brian has immersed himself in the science and research behind light, heat, electromagnetism, and the human body. 14 years later, he brings a refreshing approach to natural living, biohacking, and natural health transformation. Website Instagram Facebook YouTube X

While DeFi's ultimate goal is to provide an alternative for TradFi, blockchain gaming caters to retail masses, onboarding millions of users to crypto through incentives and fun gameplay. The greatest success story in Web3 gaming thus far has been, without a doubt, Axie Infinity. Apart from creating an engaged community whose early adopters also experienced rags-to-riches stories, it kickstarted an entire movement around play-to-earn gaming. Many have tried copying it, yet most of them failed. Axie Infinity managed to design a sustainable economy that combined NFTs and fungible tokens. The result was the first gamified crypto mining event, at scale. In order to accommodate such a massive demand, in a time when L2 rollups were still in R&D, Sky Mavis founded Ronin, a gaming-oriented Ethereum sidechain. The community that formed around Axie Infinity created a tremendous network effect, solidifying Ronin's PMF as a gaming powerhouse. Before long, many up-and-coming titles migrated to Ronin, and the growth effects in all their key metrics (i.e. DAUs, transactions, revenue, etc.) further fuelled the flywheel.Topics covered in this episode:Jeff's backgroundCryptokittiesJoining Axie Infinity and how it evolvedMonetizing Axie's economyThe recipe for successful blockchain gamesBuilding Ronin, the gaming L1On-chain vs. off-chain game elementsCommunity buildingRonin's economy & composabilityMost suitable gaming genre for Web3AI x gamingCrypto gaming investmentsRonin's current state and future roadmapAxie's upcoming MMOEpisode links:Jeff Zirlin on XAxie Infinity on XRonin on XSky Mavis on XSponsors:Gnosis: Gnosis builds decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem, since 2015. This year marks the launch of Gnosis Pay— the world's first Decentralized Payment Network. Get started today at - gnosis.ioChorus One: one of the largest node operators worldwide, trusted by 175,000+ accounts across more than 60 networks, Chorus One combines institutional-grade security with the highest yields at - chorus.oneThis episode is hosted by Brian Fabian Crain.

Guest: Zac Bookman, CEO and Co-Founder of OpenGovThirteen years after co-founding the government transparency startup OpenGov, Zac Bookman is still finding ways to surprise people. In 2023, Cox Enterprises bought the company for $1.8 billion — but as far as Zac is concerned, “we're just getting started.”“ I left the vast majority of my net worth in the company,” he says. “So I'm a believer. I'm all in.”The mission of powering “more effective and accountable government” has been stable since OpenGov's earliest days, and that mission has informed everything from hiring to M&A to the decision to sell. “These people buy and don't sell,” Zac said of Cox. “They're all in on the mission. And they're all in on taking care of employees. So I see a triple win: A win for employees, win for the investors, win for the customers, maybe a quadruple win for me and the management.”Chapters:(01:46) - OpenGov's mission (04:34) - Shrinking the product-market fit (07:34) - Super misson driven (08:59) - Why OpenGov almost shut down (13:08) - Zac's early career (16:16) - Picking (and losing) a CTO (22:50) - Growing upside-down (25:29) - The SPAC backstabber (31:26) - Why Zac didn't get fired (33:24) - Selling in 2024 (37:04) - Growth by acquisition (42:31) - John Chambers and PMF (49:32) - Zac's cross-country bike ride (56:25) - Expectations vs. reality (58:57) - The coup attempt (01:01:59) - Tiring work (01:05:47) - Going to the White House (01:09:40) - DOGE & disrespect (01:12:54) - “We're just getting started” (01:14:18) - Who OpenGov is hiring (and where) (01:15:13) - What “grit” means to Zac Mentioned in this episode: Joe Lonsdale, Cox Enterprises, OpenAI, the Department of Government Efficiency, Workday, H.R. McMaster, Stanford University, Formation 8, 8VC, the National Academy of Sciences, the Stanford Review, Kamala Harris, Marc Andreessen, Balaji Srinivasan, Coinbase, Earn, Ben Horowitz, Facebook, Steve Laughlin, Cisco, Laurene Powell Jobs, Glynn Capital, Acme, Allen & Company, Harry You, Joe Tucci, EMC, Bill Green, Accenture, Tyler Technologies, HP, Josh Kushner, GTY Technology Holdings, John Keker, Palantir, CKAN, Oracle, Kevin McCarthy, The American Technology Council Summit, Jeff Bezos, Tim Cook, Satya Nadella, Pat Gelsinger, Donald Trump, Jared Kushner, Elon Musk, Bill Clinton, and Al Gore.Links:Connect with ZacLinkedInConnect with JoubinTwitterLinkedInEmail: grit@kleinerperkins.com Learn more about Kleiner PerkinsThis episode was edited by Eric Johnson from LightningPod.fm

Solana needs no introduction. Ever since its inception, it pushed throughput scaling on a single chain, without the need of sharding or rollups. Despite its ups and downs that culminated at the bottom of the bear market after the FTX crash, it managed to not only survive, but build a vibrant community around crypto's (arguably) most prominent PMF (thus far).Join us for a fascinating discussion and learn about Anatoly's take on controversial topics such as MEV, concurrent block leaders (the equivalent of Ethereum's PBS proposal), L2 rollups, Solana economics, how to tackle potential exploits and more.Topics covered in this episode:How the original Solana vision turned outWhat makes blockchains valuableMEV & program writable accountsConcurrent block proposersCurrent bottlenecks for scaling SolanaMainnet vs. L2 rollupsFiredancer upgradeHalting the network vs. rollbacksSolana's scaling roadmapDoubleZeroWorst hacks on SolanaUI exploits, Bybit hack and smart contract securitySolana economics and the SIMD-0228 proposalFuture improvementsUse cases for blockchainsSolana mobileEpisode links:Anatoly Yakovenko on XSolana on XSolana Mobile on XSponsors:Gnosis: Gnosis builds decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem, since 2015. This year marks the launch of Gnosis Pay— the world's first Decentralized Payment Network. Get started today at - gnosis.ioChorus One: one of the largest node operators worldwide, trusted by 175,000+ accounts across more than 60 networks, Chorus One combines institutional-grade security with the highest yields at - chorus.oneThis episode is hosted by Brian Fabian Crain & Martin Köppelmann.