Podcast appearances and mentions of Bessie Coleman

From tuxedos in Harlem nightclubs to tailored suits behind BBC microphones, this episode unpacks the radical legacy of women who wore menswear and made history doing it. From Marlene Dietrich's Hollywood tux to Gladys Bentley's jazz swagger, from aviators like Amelia Earhart and Bessie Coleman to Indian royals like Maharani Gayatri Devi and Princess Indira Devi these women didn't just break the rules, they rewrote them. Join me as we explore how women across time, race, and culture used fashion not as costume but as a powerful language of rebellion, identity, and freedom.

Bessie Coleman fait partie des personnalités qui ont marqué l'histoire de l'aviation aux Etats-Unis. Première femme afro-américaine autorisée à piloter un avion, elle a dû survoler de nombreux obstacles pour réaliser son rêve. Mention légales : Vos données de connexion, dont votre adresse IP, sont traités par Radio Classique, responsable de traitement, sur la base de son intérêt légitime, par l'intermédiaire de son sous-traitant Ausha, à des fins de réalisation de statistiques agréées et de lutte contre la fraude. Ces données sont supprimées en temps réel pour la finalité statistique et sous cinq mois à compter de la collecte à des fins de lutte contre la fraude. Pour plus d'informations sur les traitements réalisés par Radio Classique et exercer vos droits, consultez notre Politique de confidentialité.Hébergé par Ausha. Visitez ausha.co/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.

Carole Hopson is a Boeing 737 captain for United Airlines and the author of ‘A Pair of Wings,' a historical fiction novel about Bessie Coleman, the first Black woman to get her pilot license. After a successful twenty-year career working for iconic brands like the National Football League, Foot Locker and L'Oréal, Carole quit her job to pursue her lifelong dream of flying planes.  On today's episode, Carole tells the story of how she turned her childhood dream into a second-act career. She outlines the five-step plan she created for making a major career pivot, and shares tips on how to balance work with family responsibilities. She also discusses her next big dream – to send 100 Black women to flight school by 2035 – and how she's going to make it happen. Follow Carole Hopson on LinkedIn and follow Leah Smart on LinkedIn. If you liked this episode, your next listen should be this one: Redefine Your Relationship to Work with Writer Jennifer Romolini

Soar through history with Gigi Coleman as she unveils the extraordinary legacy of her great-aunt, Bessie Coleman – the first Black and Native American woman to earn a pilot's license. This captivating episode takes you on a thrilling journey from the skies of the 1920s to today's runways, where Bessie's pioneering spirit continues to inspire a new generation of aviators.Discover how a sharecropper's daughter became an international aviation icon, and how her great-niece is now breaking barriers in the cockpit and the classroom. You'll hear about: The Bessie Coleman Aviation All-Stars program, launching careers and dreams Exclusive partnerships with major airlines transforming the industry Innovative educational initiatives, from flight sims to drone certifications The $10 million B. Coleman Aviation hangar – a testament to Bessie's enduring impactWhether you're an aviation enthusiast, a history buff, or someone reaching for the stars, this episode will leave you inspired and ready to spread your wings. Join us for an uplifting celebration of Black excellence that proves the sky is not the limit – it's just the beginning.Tune in now and let Bessie Coleman's remarkable story elevate your spirit and ignite your passion for achievement!#blackhistorymonth

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Most Americans are well acquainted with the story of Amelia Earhart, but few have heard the name Bessie Coleman. This fearless legend earned her pilot's license two years before Earhart became certified. This week, as we celebrate Black History Month, we cover the story of Coleman and the countless barriers she faced as an African American woman in the early 1900's set on making a name for herself as a pilot. Learn More: https://viewpointsradio.org/bessie-coleman-the-stunt-pilot-sensation-of-the-early-1900s Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Latreece Taylor is a Human Resources Practioner, Wife, and Mother. On this #BlackHistoryMonth podcast, we discuss the life of Elizabeth "Bessie" Coleman. She was the first African-American woman and first Native American to hold a pilot license, and is the earliest known Black person to earn an international pilot's license. Enjoy!#BaxtersBuzz Angelic 8s: A Letter To Zara" and is available. ⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/37BIX44

In celebration of November being National Aviation History Month, this is Part One of Two Episodes focusing on the history of flight, from America to England, and across to Europe. Hear about famous pilots, the creation of gliders and airplanes, and about aviation related museums and destinations you can visit. FEATURED GUESTS: - DEBBIE STONE, travel writer, talks about her visit to the Wright Brothers National Memorial in Kill Devil Hills, North Carolina. Read her story: https://nationalparktraveling.com/listing/lots-to-love-about-the-outer-banks/ - GLYNN BURROWS is a historian and owner of Norfolk Tours in England. Read his article about US WWII Airfields in the UK:  https://blendradioandtv.com/listing/norfolks-us-airfields-during-wwii/  - ARYN YOUNGLESS, a writer and genealogist, talks about the life and career of pilot Bessie Coleman. Read her article about this aviation pioneer: https://genealogybyaryn.substack.com/p/the-life-of-bessie-coleman   - JO CLARK, travel writer, talks about Harris Hill, the glider-soaring capital of America that's located near Elmira, in Big Flats, New York. Check out her story about the history and visitor experience: https://recipestravelculture.com/amazing-glider-soaring-over-finger-lakes/  - MIKE DOWD is an aviation history buff, as well as a pilot, engineer, and mechanic. Hear about his flight history and noteworthy pilots he met along his journey.  LISTEN TO PART TWO of this AVIATION HISTORY SHOW SERIES ON BIG BLEND RADIO HERE: https://youtu.be/J1dUp1WgES8 CHECK OUT OUR BIG BLEND AVIATION HISTORY GUIDE featuring podcasts, interviews, articles, books, and documentary films, here: https://blendradioandtv.com/listing/aviation-history-guide/ 

Dans « Les aventurières du ciel », Katell Faria raconte le parcours héroïque de quelques aviatrices qui ont marqué les débuts de la conquête de l'air, et notamment celui de l'Américaine Bessie Coleman. Celle-ci, avant d'être, aux États-Unis, la vedette de nombreux spectacles aériens, vint apprendre à piloter en France à l'École Caudron et devint officiellement, en 1921, la première aviatrice noire de l'histoire, détentrice d'un brevet de pilote de la Fédération Aéronautique Internationale.Gérard Maoui lit un extrait du récit de sa vie.Commander en ligne : Les Aventurières du cielHébergé par Ausha. Visitez ausha.co/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.

Carole Hopson is a Boeing 737 captain for United Airlines and the author of ‘A Pair of Wings,' a historical fiction novel about Bessie Coleman, the first Black woman to get her pilot license. After a successful twenty-year career working for iconic brands like the National Football League, Foot Locker and L'Oréal, Carole quit her job to pursue her lifelong dream of flying planes.  On this week's episode of Everyday Better, Carole tells the story of how she turned that childhood dream into a second-act career. She shares wisdom on balancing your career alongside the responsibilities of being a parent, demonstrating why moms make for some of the best employees. She also discusses her novel and her next big dream: sending 100 Black women to flight school by 2035.  Follow Carole Hopson on LinkedIn.  Follow Leah Smart on LinkedIn. To learn more about the life of Bessie Coleman, check out Carole's novel A Pair of Wings.

Send us a textIn this Aviatrix Classics conversation with Guest Hosts Dr. Jacque Boyd and Captain Jenny Beatty, we welcome guest Carole Hopson, author of A Pair of Wings, to discuss the remarkable accomplishments of pioneering aviatrix Bessie Coleman. Despite all of the odds against her, Bessie learned to fly and earned her license in France in 1921, then returned to Europe to learn aerobatics before drawing mixed-race audiences to watch her perform in the U.S. Carole learned about Bessie Coleman from Jenny at a Women in Aviation International conference. In this conversation, she and Jenny share that exchange and talk about the impact it had on Carole's pursuit of her own dream to fly, and on her inspiration to write this book. We also talk about how Carole took her book from self-published in 2021 to traditionally published by Holt in 2024. Buy the book: https://literaryaviatrix.com/book/a-pair-of-wings-a-novel/Did you know you can support your local independent bookshop and me by shopping through my Bookshop.org affiliate links on my website? If a book is available on Bookshop.org, you'll find a link to it on the book page. By shopping through the Literary Aviatrix website a small portion of the sale goes to support the content you love, at no additional cost to you. https://literaryaviatrix.com/shop-all-books/Thanks so much for listening! Stay up to date on book releases, author events, and Aviatrix Book Club discussion dates with the Literary Aviatrix Newsletter. Visit the Literary Aviatrix website to find over 600 books featuring women in aviation in all genres for all ages. Become a Literary Aviatrix Patron and help amplify the voices of women in aviation. Follow me on social media, join the book club, and find all of the things on the Literary Aviatrix linkt.ree. Blue skies, happy reading, and happy listening!-Liz Booker

Captain Carole Hopson, a Boeing 737 Captain for United Airlines, stops by "The Goodness Factor" podcast to discuss her book, A Pair of Wings, which was inspired by trailblazing female pilot Bessie Coleman. She also discusses her Jet Black Foundation, dedicated to sending 100 Black women to flight school by the year 2035.

Journalist, airline pilot, former NFL executive and author, Carole Hopson, joins the podcast to talk about her novel, A Pair of Wings. Bill, Jamal and Carole discuss the book and its subject, Bessie Coleman, the first Black woman to learn to fly at the dawn of aviation (two years ahead of Amelia Earhart). Jamal also updates his Black QB rankings.

Carole Hopson wanted to be a pilot since childhood, but it wasn't until her mid-30s that she learned about Bessie Coleman, the first Black woman to earn her pilot's license in 1921. Coleman's story not only encouraged Hopson to pursue her own career as a commercial pilot, but it also inspired A Pair of Wings, Hopson's first novel. In today's episode, Hopson speaks with NPR's Michel Martin about Coleman's groundbreaking path and about Hopson's own experience as one of few women of color working as a pilot for a major airline. To listen to Book of the Day sponsor-free and support NPR's book coverage, sign up for Book of the Day+ at plus.npr.org/bookofthedayLearn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Host Diana Korte speaks with United Airlines pilot and author, Carole Hopson, who has crafted a riveting, adventure-filled historical novel, A PAIR OF WINGS. It's based on the remarkable true story of pioneer aviatrix Bessie Coleman, a Black woman who received her pilot's license almost two years before Amelia Earhart, and found freedom in the air. Hopson was so inspired by Bessie's story, she became a pilot herself at the age of 54.   A few years after the Wright brothers' first flight in 1903, Bessie—the daughter of a woman born into slavery—was working the Texas cotton fields with her family when an airplane flew over their heads. It buzzed so low she thought she could catch it in her hands. Flying became her dream.  

Hi – Sidney here. You may not recognize the name Bessie Coleman, so you may be wondering whether or not to tune into this episode. But, I highly encourage you to give it a listen. It's a story our team – from our director Callie to our engineer Geoff – all declared one of their favourites of the entire series. Because it's a story about the ripple effects of bravery. Coleman battled racism, sexism, poverty and rejection to – just 20 years after the Wright Brothers successfully flew the first controlled airplane – become the first Black woman pilot. What Coleman didn't know, was that her resilience would inspire another incredible woman – whose story we've already told on this show. Turns out, the sky is not the limit. Hope you'll join us. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Bessie Coleman was America's first black and Native American woman to gain a pilots license and was known as 'Queen Bess' by her fans. From fearsome stunts, to paving the way for black women after her, Bessie lived quite the life of adventure. Join Jorja and Mollie as they tell her story.  

In this episode, we learn about the women who are the monarchs/pioneers on Rock & Roll! We start with Bessie Coleman and Memphis Minnie who were born in the late 1800s, and then Sister Rosetta Tharpe. Tharpe is known as the "Godmother of Rock and Roll."

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As Women's History Month comes to a close, we dive into the stories of two pioneering pilots: Amelia Earhart and Bessie Coleman. Yet while the legend of Earhart's aviation feats and mysterious disappearance has long gripped the public imagination, Coleman's equally impressive career as the first African-American woman to hold a pilot license is a story that still largely goes untold. Lale chats with Dorothy Cochrane, a curator at the National Air and Space Museum in Washington, to find out more about both pilots record-breaking flights, the risks they took, the individual challenges they faced, and the ingenious ways they advocated for themselves.

Bessie Coleman was the first woman to get her International Pilots License. She was also the first African American woman to become a stunt pilot and perform around the country. When her rising stardom and unyielding attitude towards racism and segregation leads to her questionable death, outrage sparks around the country. We love our National Parks and we know you do too but when you're out there, remember to enjoy the view but watch your back. Please take a moment to rate and subscribe from wherever you're listening to NPAD! Become part of our Outsider family on Patreon  or Apple Subscriptions to gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and more. Follow our socials Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. To share a Trail Tale, suggest a story, access merch, and browse our book recommendations - head over to our website. Thank you so much to our partners, check them out! Factor: Use our link and code npad50 to get 50% off Taylor Farm Hemp Co: Use code NPAD for 15% off your first order plus free shipping. Resources: Documentary: The Legend: The Bessie Coleman Story. https://www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/bessie-coleman https://www.newspapers.com/article/california-eagle-bessie-coleman-memorial/117107183/ https://blog.museumofflight.org/bessie-coleman-daredevil-pioneer-advocate https://home.nps.gov/tuai/index.htm https://www.tuskegee.edu/support-tu/tuskegee-airmen

Find me and the show on social media @DrWilmerLeon on X (Twitter), Instagram, and YouTube Facebook page is www.facebook.com/Drwilmerleonctd   TRANSCRIPT: Announcer (00:06): Connecting the dots with Dr. Wilmer Leon, where the analysis of politics, culture, and history converge. Wilmer Leon (00:14): Welcome to the Connecting the Dots podcast with Dr. Wilmer Leon. I'm Wilmer Leon. Here's the point. We have a tendency to view current events as though they happen in a vacuum, failing to understand the broader historical context in which most events take place. During each episode, my guests and I have probing, provocative, and in-depth discussions that connect the dots between current events and the broader historic context in which these events take place. This enables you to better understand and analyze the events that are impacting the global village in which we live on today's episode. The issue before is what are the problems facing African-American aviators and other aviators of color in the commercial aviation space? To assist me with this discussion, let's turn to my guest. He's a man with well over 12,000 hours in the cockpit. In the commercial cockpit. He is Captain Clovis Jones, retired. Captain Jones, welcome to the show. Capt Clovis Jones (01:23): Thank you so much for having me. Wilmer Leon (01:25): If you would please introduce yourself. You have such a broad, such a vast resume. I don't want to give short shrift to any of your accomplishments, so please take a moment and introduce yourself, sir. Capt Clovis Jones (01:39): Okay. Clovis Jones Jr. Born in Dawson, Georgia. I wanted to be a pilot since I was four years old. I actually turned down a scholarship to Morehouse College in premed to go to the Army High School to Flight School program. However, my recruiter put something different on my contract. One reason is that he didn't get credit for recruiting officers and secondly, and that part of the world as a black person, that was not something that people who looked like him wanted people like me who looked like me to do so. I wound up in the infantry for three years, got out and asked for my scholarship back and went to Morehouse for a semester and was called by the Army's Aviation Department to see if I was still interested in flight school and I said yes. So I reenlisted into the army and did go to flight school, completing flight school. (02:35) I was a turnaround flight instructor for both the Huey Helicopter and for the Huey Gunships. Deployed to Vietnam as an instructor pilot, the safety officer and assistant officer officer. My second two in Vietnam. 10 days prior to that end, I was commissioned in the Army Field Artillery branch as a second Lieutenant Aviator returning to the states, I went to the basic course field artillery, then to the Army Aviations school at Fort Rucker, Alabama and became an academic instructor leaving the army. After about 10 years of active duty, I got my first line job with Hugs helicopters when they were working on the Army's new attack helicopter, the Apache and I was there from its flight test department, the Hughes helicopters from the building of the helicopter to its initial test flight through its delivered to the Army. Then my second flying job was with Xerox Flying Executives, third flying job with the Western Airlines, which is now part of Delta Airlines. Then to California, which is now part of American, and I found a home at FedEx and retired from FedEx as an MD 11 captain. I have been involved in flight organizations, both black and white and current president of the United States Army Black Aviation Association, and former president of the Organization of Black Airline Pilots, which is now the organization of black aerospace professionals. And my most recent flying job was with as a captain with JSX, a regional airline. Wilmer Leon (04:16): You are rated to fly both, as you just mentioned, helicopters and fixed wing aircraft. How unique is that for an aviator, particularly an African-American aviator? Capt Clovis Jones (04:30): Well, I don't know how unique it is, but there are a few of us who are dual rated and even fewer who were black. During Vietnam era, there were only about 600 black army aviators. So there's a book 600 more or less. And so to be dual rated, that's rare Wilmer Leon (04:54): To be dual rated. That is rare. Before we go any further, I'd be remiss if I did not mention the passing of Captain David E. Harris, the first African-American pilot for a major US passenger carrier. He died March 8th at the age of 89, and he once said, there's no way I should be the first. It should have happened long before 1964. I know you were friends with Captain Harris. If you could speak about him and his accomplishments. Capt Clovis Jones (05:37): Well, Dave Harris, just a principal gentleman, he was just outstanding and always he was a mentor, he was a good friend based on his experiences, he basically told us what to look out for and that was a time where the airlines use sickle cell trait testing to keep us from being hired. Yes, either you have sickle cell and one blood test says it all, but they would continue to test you to see if you had the trait. And that was one way that they would not bring us on board. Another was testing, so Dave Harris with American Airlines, he challenged that. So with the psychological testing, which had no barrier on you becoming a pilot. So he challenged that as well as the repeated blood testing to see if somehow if we didn't have the sickle cell trait with the first blood test, they would keep testing you hoping that you would show the trait and they could deny you hiring. So that was one of the milestones, and he was one of the presidents of the organization of black airline pilots. But just a principal gentleman Wilmer Leon (07:00): Mentioning the psychological testing, one would think someone with your background, Vietnam aviator, that all of the trials and tribulations that you went through overseas that the fact that you survived, that should be enough psychological testing to warrant you to be a commercial. I mean, if you can fly there, you can probably deal with passengers going between Dallas and wherever it is you're going to go. But that sounds as though that was another exclusionary process, not an inclusionary process. Capt Clovis Jones (07:40): Yeah, that's correct. That is correct. And when Marlon Green won his Supreme Court decision, Supreme that broke the barriers of us being kept out of the industry. He was hired but not trained, so he didn't get a chance to fly. So it was a delay even in that process. So there are a lot of delaying tactics that were used and there are those that are still out there. Wilmer Leon (08:07): Talk a little bit about Marlon Green. He was an Air Force aviator hired by Continental in I think 1957, but they rescinded his offer and then it took about six years for it to go through the Supreme Court, and the ruling was in his favor and sent a very wide message to the US airline industry about hiring. And I think he started flying for Continental in 65. Is that right? Capt Clovis Jones (08:39): Roughly around that time. I'm not sure exactly on the exact year or date, but you look at his background, he was well qualified to be hired, but then when they found out he was black, they rescinded it. So that's when he engaged in the lawsuit that wound up making his way to the Supreme Court. But this industry was supposed to be all white. Curtis Collins, a congressman from Illinois. She knew some of us filed it, and we talked about the challenges, trials and tribulations. So a congressional study was initiated and the University of Pittsburgh did that study, and it showed that the airline commercial airline industry wants to be all white, not a janitor, not a baggage handler or anything. Wilmer Leon (09:33): Even down to that level, Capt Clovis Jones (09:35): Down to that level. The other piece is that the Airline Policy Association Alpha had a clause in its bylaws that if you were black, you could not be a member. So even if an airline did hire you, you were not allowed on the property. So it was no point in them hiring you. Wilmer Leon (09:54): That sounds like the American Bar Association sounds like the American Dental Association. There were so many professional organizations. I know for example, my grandfather was a dentist. He graduated from Howard in 1911 and was the first African-American licensed dentist in New Orleans, but he could not join the American Dental Association, so he had to go to their conventions and wait tables so that he could be in the room while the latest advances in dentistry were being discussed. So it sounds like the airline industry was right along the same lines as so many of the other professional organizations in this country in terms of their restrictive, restrictive covenants and whatnot. Capt Clovis Jones (10:48): Well, that was just a reflection of America, what it was all about. We were to serve others and we were not to advance and we would to have restrictions on what we could do, what professions to go into. Nevertheless, with that in place, there was no profession that we were not proficient in. And as a point of history from Pineville, Louisiana, there was a gentleman by the name of Charles Frederick Page who had a flying machine. It was a lighter than air, kind of like a balloon, but it had directional control as well as a propeller, so it could move and change directions rather than just go up like a hot air balloon and let the wind take it where it would. 1903, you had a patent. The patent was finally granted in 1906. Well, here was a black man who was born during enslavement, taught himself how to read and write, invented this flying machine, filed for a patent and eventually was granted a patent. So we've been in and around the industry for a long, long time. Wilmer Leon (12:03): Over the past three years or so, we've been hearing a lot about DEI, diversity, equity, and inclusion, and according to McKinsey and Company in the workplace, these are three closely linked values held by many organizations that are working to be supportive of different groups of individuals, including race, which is an artificial construct, but they list it, so I'll say it, ethnicities, religions, abilities, genders, and whatnot. With that being said, according to NBC, news Tech, billionaire and Tesla, CEO and SpaceX, founder Elon Musk has drawn a lot of recent criticism After he criticized efforts by United Airlines and Boeing to hire non-white pilots and factory workers, he claimed in a series of posts on X, that efforts to diversify workforces at these companies have made air travel less safe. Of course, he offered no evidence to support that claim because there is no evidence to support it, and he winds up getting into this exchange with people talking about it'll take an airplane crashing and killing hundreds of people for them to change this crazy policy. Do you want to fly in an airplane where they prioritize DEI hiring over your safety? And he then went on to say, this is actually happening. That post got 14 million views with just a few hours. I know you've got some ideas on the issue of DEI as well as some of Elon Musk's comments, and of course, we all know Elon Musk being a South African. He was obviously well-trained and well-versed. But your thoughts Capt Clovis Jones (14:08): Well, on the subject of DEI or as Elon Musk assembles, those D-I-E-V-I-E want to doc, first of all, when I hear the word diversity, basically it's a non-starter, and I don't like the term when it applies to black people, because black people have been in every industry. We have been from the White House to the outhouse, build a White House, build a capital, had engineers doing the building of the White House who were black, even though enslavement was the status of black folk in the country for the most part. Wilmer Leon (14:58): And to that point, design the city of Washington DC That's Capt Clovis Jones (15:01): Right, that's right. Wilmer Leon (15:02): Since you mentioned the capital in the White House design, the city of Washington DC after having designed the city of Paris. Capt Clovis Jones (15:08): Yes. Well, here you have us serving from the highest levels down to the lowest level and excelling. By the way, the first book on hospitality was written by a black man, and it is in the archives of the University of Massachusetts. Here's a successful man who basically set the standards for how you serve people in terms of accommodations as well as restaurant service. So we've been at the top of the games in every industry. We wouldn't have the space program that we have. We wouldn't have the internet that we have today. We wouldn't have self lubricating engines if it wasn't for black people wouldn't have turbocharges if it wasn't for black people. (15:54) So when I'm hearing this diversity piece, to me that's just the way the headcount, because now we can say we are diverse. We want to include everybody, and yes, they are, including everybody, because between all different groups and categories that HR departments have now, they can reach out and say, we have the most diverse work group because we have Pacific Islanders, we have Latinos, we have Africans, we have whatever other category you want to name. But then when it comes to the crux of fairness of black folks, there's an exclusion because you can hire all these others and fulfill your diversity claim, yet avoid hiring black people. So that's one of the reasons to me, if you are fair in your hiring and you have the standards set and you know what it is that you want, you're going to have a range of people from all colors, all genders if it's fair. So if it's not fair, then you have these made up constructs to basically for exclusion purposes. Now, that's my personal view. Wilmer Leon (17:07): Well, and to that point also, when you start looking at the categories and the qualifications or the demarcations within the categories, you start drilling down into, okay, you have 15 African-Americans. What positions do they hold? Is your CEO African-American is your CFO, African-American is your COO, African-American within your management structure and management chain within your elite classification of managers? Then all of a sudden we start to fight a different day. Capt Clovis Jones (17:44): Yes. One of the young fathers that I knew, he was asking me, I was flying for this company, he says, Clovis, why don't I have you as the chief pilot? I said, Hey, I don't have the complexion for the connection. So that ends that. Wilmer Leon (18:02): Did you fly President Mandela? Capt Clovis Jones (18:05): No, that was Captain Ray Doha. Wilmer Leon (18:08): Ray do. Oh, okay. Ray did that. Okay. Okay. Okay. (18:13) So give us a little bit about your background getting into the industry and overcoming the barriers that you had to overcome and how prevalent are those problems today? Because when I look at the data today, 90% of the pilots are still white male, 3.4% are African-American, 2.2% are Asian, and half of a percent are Hispanic or Latino. So those numbers tell me that we're still having a problem. In fact, I got a little bit ahead of myself because the question I was going to ask you to get into this conversation is we've spent a lot of time in the fifties and since the fifties singing we shall overcome. We can now board a plane and see African-American captains and first officers. Have we overcome? Capt Clovis Jones (19:21): By no means things have changed. There are things that are different. There are some things that are better, but the underlying system has just changed. So we still have this system where the overarching piece is that we're encapsulated to only hold certain positions, and that of course depends upon the company and the culture of the company, but we don't have, for example, desegregation. You had that and then you have the opening of opportunities for the airline at for minorities and women were considered a minority. So there were more white women, higher than black pilots, and that's still the case today. (20:05) So overcoming obstacles, my first day on the flight line to be trained as an army aviator, I had an instructor from the Northeast from either Vermont or New Hampshire, I don't recall exactly which. But en route to the helicopter for our first flight, he said to me, you look like a pretty good athlete. Do you know who Jackie Robinson is? I said, yes. Jackie's cousin lives down the street from me, says, well, I think you should get out of the army and go play baseball because black people don't make good pilots. And here's a person who is telling me that I shouldn't be a pilot and he's going to train me, but blacks don't make good pilots, so I should leave the program. So I knew what was in front of me. So I went to the flight commander and asked for a change of instructors, and the upshot of that conversation was, well, both of you are new. (21:03) He's a new instructor. You are his first student. You are a new warrant officer candidate, and this is your first flight, so it's going to look bad for both of you. And he wanted to know why. And I explained to him without saying, the guy's a racist. And he says he mulled over it for a second or two and says, this is what I'll do. I'll ensure that you have every opportunity that any of the other one officer candidates have in this program. And I said, okay, that's good. However, when I come back and ask for a change of instructors, I want a change of instructors, no questions asked. And that is what happened. This gentleman was, you can read the syllabus, you can understand what is to be done and you can mimic it, but there are certain standards or there are certain ways that the army wants you to fly. (21:59) And if you aren't trained to do that during your check rides, you get downgraded. He was teaching me wrong. So I had a progress ride. A young instructor who was about the same age as I was, was about 21 years old, and he'd been flying. He had his license when he was 16 to 17 years old. His came from a wealthy family and his family got him trained in the helicopter instructor and all that. He asked me to do a taxi, oh, this is not how we do it, asked me to do a takeoff. Oh, I got the aircraft. This is not how we do it. So he demonstrated every maneuver that he asked me to do because I was doing it as I had been trained to do it. When he showed me the way that I needed to do it in order to meet the standards that were expected of me, I did them as he demonstrated. (22:50) And at the end of the flight he says, I've got to talk to the flight commander. That's something not right here. You started this flight off unsatisfactory now, but you end it. You're above average. But I can't give you an above average because where you started, I just got to talk to the flight commander, and I just smiled. And so I said to myself, I already have. So my next day of flying, the Deputy flight Commander, Dick Strauss, need to give him props. And also the flight commander, Sam Countryman, Dick Strauss, we got into the helicopter, flew out to the stage field, we landed. He says, take it around the past three times and park it on a certain spot. And that's what I did. I soloed that day with this gentleman just flying with me from the main hella Ford at Fort Walters, Texas out to the stage field that we were operating from that day. (23:42) And at the end of my primary flight training, Dick Strauss showed me some things that you could do with a helicopter that were not in the syllabus. He said, it may come in handy one day, and it did for me because in a COBRA helicopter, which is know is heavy, I was an instructor giving an in-country orientation to a new pilot. And on very short final, we lost our 90 degree gearbox and tail rotor. And without a tail rotor, you do not have directional control in the helicopter. So we went from a nose up attitude to a nose down attitude spinning right, and it wanted to roll inverted left. And all of that last day of flying that Dick Straus showed me what the helicopter could do. Instinctively I did it. I stopped the turn by closing the throttle right rear cyclic to level the aircraft, pull the collective up, and we spawned about 1800 degrees like in about two seconds. But I was able to land the helicopter with just minimal damage. And I was told that's the first time that you'd had such a catastrophic failure that either the helicopter was not destroyed or the palace would not either killed or injured. (24:51) So everybody encounter is not against you, but you do have the remnants of the shadows of the echoes of you still have the echoes of slavery. You still have the echoes of containment of us being in certain categories, and there are people who really want to keep us there and some people who want to put us back there. So that is prevalent in our industry as well. Wilmer Leon (25:17): You're 21 years old, you're in the service, which is a hierarchical organization, and your instructor tells you that you need to leave the service and go play baseball. Capt Clovis Jones (25:30): Yes. Wilmer Leon (25:31): Where did you find the intestinal fortitude to manage that circumstance? By A, not punching him in the face, B, not saying anything derogatory to him and then punching him in the face. You see, I got to think about punching people in the favor, but no. So where did you get that ability to manage that circumstance to your favor, not your detriment? Capt Clovis Jones (26:09): Well, I learned firsthand about white racism and at four years old, and we had black insurance agents and white insurance agents come to the house to collect whenever that cycle was. And this one agent, he had a white car. My father had a black car, and so it happens that my father's car was parked in front of the house that day. He pulls up and he calls me over, and I was hesitant about going, but then I did go. He says, come over. I'm not going to hurt you. I'm not going to do anything to you. He says, put your hand on my car. And I hesitantly raised my hand. So he put my hand on his car. He said, how does that feel? I said, it feels okay. He said, now, go touch your father's car. So I put my hand on my father's car, and because it was about 11 o'clock in the day, sunshiny day in the summer, it was hot. (27:02) I jerked my hand off the car. He said, that's what I wanted to show you. White is better than black. And from that point on, I didn't like that gentleman anymore. So I realized there are people who will be encouraging to you and people who will try to convince you that you should take some lesser position or that you are inferior to them. So with that background, it's like then I knew about the Tuskegee Avenue at that point. Plus one of my mentors, Carl Bohannan, who was the first black presidential pilot when I was in an infantryman, he was flying the flying cranes in Vietnam in the first cab division. So I had examples of excellent black aviators that I knew about. So with that, I'm thinking, this guy's totally out of his head, and I know he's not going to train me properly. And so that's why I went to the flight commander and asked for a change of instructors, and it worked out in the end, but I had to put up with this nonsense and even accused me of leaving, of causing a circumstance where the engine could fail because he said, I didn't put the Carter pin back in the oil cap, and the vibrations could have caused the cap to unscrew, and because we of flying, the wind would pull the oil out of the reservoir hints causing the engine to seize, and we would have to do a forced landing. (28:34) I know that I didn't do that, and that was the day that I asked for change of instructors Wilmer Leon (28:39): Because Capt Clovis Jones (28:39): This guy, if he's going to lie and say that I did something that I know I didn't do because I was meticulous about everything, but you just have to understand who you're dealing with. Wilmer Leon (28:50): That was my second question on this issue, which was the subjective nature of your instructor's evaluations. So knowing that in circumstances like you're articulating, there's the checklist that he would go through, but then there were also the subjective factors that would enable him to fail you if he so chose to because he didn't like the fact that you tied your shoes because you're right-handed versus tying your shoes because you're left-handed or whatever it might be. Speak to that, please. Capt Clovis Jones (29:32): Well, that was the case. In fact, one of my dearest friends who's now made transition, Robert B. Clark Jr. He and I started in the same class. We didn't graduate in the same class because Bob was terminated from flight training because his instructor said that he could not fly. However, Bob knew how to fly helicopters before he came to flight school. He had the syllabus, he knew everything, and he appealed it all the way to the Department of Army. And the base commander was asked to get involved. So he asked Bob, can you fly this helicopter? He says, yes. Well, let's go out to the airfield and let's go fly to the stage field to where your flight group is flying. He did. I mean, he was off for three months, got in the helicopter, flew out there, landed, and they went and talked to the flight commander. And also that instructor, that instructor was fired on the spot. Of course, the flight commander was trying to protect him because it was civilian pilots training us, and they were with Southern Airways based out of Birmingham, Alabama. So again, that cultural piece, Wilmer Leon (30:40): Was that Birmingham or Bombingham? Well, both. What year are we talking about? Capt Clovis Jones (30:47): We're talking about 1967. Wilmer Leon (30:49): Okay, we're talking Bombingham. Yes. Capt Clovis Jones (30:52): Yes. 1967. Wilmer Leon (30:54): Okay. Capt Clovis Jones (30:54): So you have people who don't want to see you there in the first place. And there was this rule, there's only going to be one black graduate per class, just one. I don't care how many start, there's only going to be one. But after complaints by Bob, by me and others about what the situation was, in fact, that was a program. You had these data sheets that you would answer your questions on when the final exam for any of the courses we were taking, and they could program things based on the way we were using social security numbers. Then even if we knew that we scored a hundred based on going down after the test was over and looking at what you had marked versus what the answers were, black pilots could only get in the eighties if you got everything right, you were in the low to mid eighties, you never got higher than 86 on any exam because if you were just average going through your flight training and you were excellent with your academics, you could wind up being in the running for honor graduate for that particular class. (32:10) So they program that the black pilots could not score 100 on all of the written exams. So that was another trick, and it was proven that that was the case. So there are all kinds of obstacles out there, but you just have to be well versed enough to understand and identify and just not take things. I saw during the civil rights era of where corporations would come and they'd say to people who had, do you have a college? Oh, you're different. They try to tell 'em, oh, you're a different kind of black person, and they give them jobs. So jobs that black people never had an opportunity to have, make the kind of money. And then you have some of these people who got that because people were demonstrating an industries and some people got killed. They said, well, I have to pick my fight. Well, no, the fight picked you now. Do you have the fortitude to stand up and fight the fight, or are you just going to IQS and say nothing and go along with maltreatment? Wilmer Leon (33:10): What you just discussed in terms of taking the exams and the particular scoring parameters that were set. One of the things that both of my parents would say to me repeatedly, but my mother was incredibly emphatic, you have to be three times as good, four times as smart, and worked seven times as hard because you're black in America. And with that, you'll only get half as far. Because when it came to education and grades, my folks didn't play, and that was their thing. You have no idea how hard you are going to have to work to be successful because you are black in America. And what you just articulated is the living example. And the other thing, when I went to law school, what I found out my first year was if I was in a class, actually it was my second year, I was in a contract negotiating class and kicked everybody's butt in the negotiating rounds that we would go through, only got a B. And what I found out was the a's were reserved for the third year, students who needed that A, there were only going to be a certain number of a's awarded, and they were reserved for the third year students who needed that grade to increase their GPA. Capt Clovis Jones (34:48): Yeah. The thing is, this system was not designed by us. It's not a fair system, but we have to learn how to navigate it. And unfortunately, some of what I call the under 40 crowd, young people who are 40 and under, maybe I could increase the year by another five years or so, they came up thinking that things are fair, and it's all about your qualifications and your abilities, but there is a whole nother system that governs whether you get an opportunity, whether you succeed or whether you fail. The thing is you need to be aware enough to navigate those challenges. And some of my young people, Wilmer Leon (35:30): Well, you just said, be aware enough. And what I have found is a number of my contemporaries, they don't want to have these discussions with their kids. They don't want to. When I taught at Howard, I would say to my students, you got to be three times as smart and workforce. Many of them, they never heard that before. Dr. Leon, what are you talking about? Well, that's life in America. Oh, no, no, no, not anymore. Oh, Dr. Leon, you don't understand. Capt Clovis Jones (36:07): Well, that's the brainwashing. That's the brainwashing that's taking place. Yeah, it's example. I used to wear a P 51 pen and I'd paint the cockpit black, and that was several of those black pilots who did that, and that was just honoring the Tuskegee ever because they were the first to people in mass to show that we could do this. But you had pioneers like Eugene, Jacque Bullock, who was a World War I fighter pilot, had to go to Germany, not Germany, to France, France, France. But he caught a ride to France on a German boat, learned to speak German in route, and he wound up during World War II of being in the French Underground because he had a nightclub in Paris. And the German officers wanted to come and enjoy the entertainment and the music and the atmosphere. So he got a lot of intelligence that he passed on to the French Underground, and he and Charles de Gall were good friends, and he was given Wilmer Leon (37:12): Awards, the Legion of Merit. Capt Clovis Jones (37:14): Say again, Wilmer Leon (37:15): The French Legion of Merit. Capt Clovis Jones (37:22): Well, I'd have to do the research, but Charles Gall came to the US and he wound up coming back to us, and he was an elevator man for the NBC where the NBC studios were in New York, and he was interviewed, but his background is phenomenal, and I happen to know his grandson and other members of his family, a cousin, (37:49) But he couldn't fly in America. But in France he did Bessie Coleman. And you have Chief Anderson, who was the civilian chief pilot for the Tuskegee Airman, who by the way, trained Captain Dhar. He taught himself how to fly. He wanted to fly. His father borrowed money from the white person that he worked for, bought a plane for his son. No one would teach chief how to fly, but he'd go to the airport every day and he'd listen to the white policies. They came back and talk about what they did was successful and the stupid stuff they did. And Chief would get it in his airplane every day, crank it up and taxi. And one day he taxied it fast enough that he lifted it off the ground. He said, now I got to figure how to land this thing. Eventually he did get some instruction from the Wright brothers, and I've had the opportunity to fly one flight with Chief. So I guess I'm one degree or two degrees away from the Wright brothers and my flight journey. But you have all those obstacles in a way. (38:57) You have other pioneers, Janet Bragg, Cornelius Coffee, you have Willow Brown, and there are any number of others that have pioneered the way for us. Chauncey Spencer, Edwin Wright, Dwight, the sculptor. He was chosen to be the first black astronaut, but again, he was a pilot, but then that didn't the astronaut program because they didn't want any blacks in the program. And he had difficulties there. But he wound up being followed his passion in business and with art, and he is one of the most prolific sculptors in the country and doing art eye kind of art for us to recognize our heroes and sheroes. Wilmer Leon (40:01): You had as a Morehouse man, you had a relationship with Dr. King. Capt Clovis Jones (40:08): Yes, yes, I did. Wilmer Leon (40:09): If you could elaborate on that a little bit, please. Capt Clovis Jones (40:12): Yes. During the Albany movement, I would go down and listen to Dr. King's speech almost every night that I could. So I would catch a ride with teachers who lived in Albany, but worked in Dawson, walked to the church, and because we were young, they would put us young people right on the front row below the pulpit. And my minister of my church and Dr. King were Morehouse classmates. They graduated at the same time. So he said, well, when you see Martin again, you tell him I said, hello. I did. So that started a relationship with Dr. King and I, and after my tour in Vietnam, my foxo buddy invited me to Chicago to work on a political campaign, which I did, and that was this organization called the New Breed Committee. And they had a bunch of black organizations that were meeting with Dr. King on this one particular night when they were planning to march through downtown Chicago. (41:17) So I go to Hyde Park, and who do I sit next to? Dr. King. So we reignited our friendship, and he was saying during the meeting, we need some young people to lead our march through downtown Chicago. And I said, well, hey, I'll do it. And some of my Vietnam buddies, and we led that march through downtown Chicago. And then when I did leave Chicago and went to Morehouse for the second time, he would come, well, for the first time actually, because that was 1966, he says he would come to the college, Hey, come by the office and talk to me. And I just thought he was being nice. And that's one regret that I have that I did not take him up on just going to his church office and sitting down and having a conversation with him. But I did become good friends with his press secretary, junior Griffith. So he and I would have wonderful conversations, but I'd see Dr. King often come into Morehouse and every time come by the office and talk to me, come by the office and talk to me. And that's something that I didn't do because it's like he's just being nice. But now I wished I had Wilmer Leon (42:29): You do your tour in Vietnam, you go to Chicago, Dr. King asks you to lead a protest in Chicago. How did you reconcile what you fought for in Vietnam versus what you were subjected to when you got back home? Capt Clovis Jones (42:56): Well, during those days, it was tough with Vietnam veterans coming back didn't call us baby killers and spat on us. It was no reconciliation. Thing is is that Vietnam was dangerous. Being black in America was dangerous. So it was no different than walking through downtown Chicago for a purpose for black people in America than going to Vietnam, supposedly fighting for democracy when all they wanted to do was have their own independence. Because Ho Chi Minh came to America and he was trying to speak to the President of the United States, and that never did happen for whatever the reasons are. I mean, there are a number of stories as to why it never happened. And Ho Chi Minh lived in Harlem. He worked in a restaurant, but he lived in Harlem, so he understood the plight to black people in the country. That was one patrol we on. You have North Vietnamese out in the middle of nowhere, and they see that the unit is mostly black, wave at each other and keep going. Why are we going to fight each other out here? For what? So it was dangerous. It was dangerous in Vietnam. It was dangerous here in America because then as well as now you get in the wrong situation, in the wrong part of town, you can wind up dead. Wilmer Leon (44:21): You can wind up dead in the right part of town. Capt Clovis Jones (44:23): Well, look, you can wind up dead in your own house with no consequences. Nobody held accountable, nobody indicted. And Dr. King's last book, where Did We Go From Here, Wilmer Leon (44:38): Chaos or Community? Capt Clovis Jones (44:40): He said that shooting was the new lynching, and that is what we're living through right now. Wilmer Leon (44:49): I asked you that Vietnam question because I had an uncle, senior Master Sergeant George W. Porter, who was a Tuskegee Airman, an original and flew World War II and Vietnam, and I'm originally from Sacramento, California, and Uncle George lived around the corner. And so the Sacramento Kings honored him at a basketball game, and he could barely walk. By this time, he was about 89, maybe 90, he could barely walk. But when they played the national anthem, he stood up so fast and so erect. And so when it was all over, I said, oh, help me understand something. He said, what's that son? I said, how is it that with all that you went through? And he used to tell me all these stories about all the stuff that he was subjected to. I said, how is it after all that you went through, you still have the reverence that you have for this flag? And he looked at me like I had three heads, and he said, boy, that's my flag. I fought for that flag. I risked my life for that flag just because they want to claim it doesn't make it theirs. Do you understand me? Yeah, unc, I got it. And so that's why I asked you that question. Capt Clovis Jones (46:30): Well, just on the question of flags, black people live under a lot of different flags, but almost anywhere you go in the world, we're treat it the same. So just to me, a flag is just a marker. It is not something to be reverenced. Yeah. America treated me poorly in some instances, but America gave me opportunities as well. So just need to understand. This is where, to me, the principle that's going to liberate us all is where is the fairness? Where's the fairness in this whole process? Because you have communities that have been deliberately destroyed by local, federal, and state governments because black people were successful. Jacksonville, Florida, for an example, highway five, right through the black community, destroyed it. Other places, Wilmer Leon (47:28): Oakland, Detroit, Cleveland, urban Renewal, and the interstate highway system has decimated African-American communities. Capt Clovis Jones (47:41): Yes. And you have off ramps to get into the community, but you don't have on-ramps for people to leave the community to get back on the freeways. Wilmer Leon (47:52): The freeway in New Orleans that goes past, I don't remember the name of it, but it goes past the Superdome. Yeah. That's another example of how that has decimated the communities. Capt Clovis Jones (48:07): Yes, yes. And that's by design. And people talk about the government. Well, the thing is the government, you have to demand treatment from government, from anyone who have laws. And of course, you have to understand laws are things that are written on paper, but the real law is whatever that judge says, and you can appeal it if you want to, but you might fight for who knows how long and how many different appeals to different courts. But the laws, whatever that judge says, look at Plessy versus Ferguson. Separate, but equal is the law of the land. Then you have the 54 Brown versus Board of Education, no, separate. It is not equal. Okay. Same document, different judges. So when that happened, in my mind it's like, wait a minute. That's something not right about this whole picture because why you have the same document. Where is the fairness in all of that? What is really right? And now you have school desegregation, but you have most of the teachers a female, and they are not black. And you have this whole school system of charter schools being created by white women who didn't want their children to go to school with black children. So you still have people say, oh, we have overcome. Oh, it is better now. Yes, it's different, but in a lot of ways it's the same. Wilmer Leon (49:40): So what do you see as being the, if we look at the, again, I gave the data a little earlier, about 3% of commercial pilots are African-American. The system that they're flying under down does not seem to be that much different from the system that you flew under when you were in the commercial space. Capt Clovis Jones (50:10): Well, that's true. You have airlines having their own programs, which we tried to get them to do decades ago. They didn't do it until they have the critical pilot shortage. But it was oap that had the first US based flight training program from no Time to getting you into the commercial space. That was a venture between oap, the organization of Black Airline Palestine and Western University. With the support of Kellogg and the transportation department. You had foreign pilots being trained from no time to becoming first officers for British Airways, Emirates and United Arab Emirates, and Air Lingus and Ireland. I'm saying, well, wait a minute. Why don't we create a program where black people who want to become pilots, who have degrees go through the interview process, go through the testing process, and if they qualify and this meets the criteria for what the airlines want, then let's train them and let's move them into commercial airline space. Well, that program lasted until money was diverted from training black pilots to buying airplanes. And now the airlines are replicating what was done by BAP and University Western Michigan University. Wilmer Leon (51:46): Is there a sense of comradery today amongst black pilots that there was when you were coming through the system, or do many of them feel a sense of accomplishment and a sense of success and participation in the system to where that sense of comradery isn't deemed necessary? Hopefully that made sense. Capt Clovis Jones (52:16): Well, kind of both are true at the same time. Two opposites can be true at the same time. The younger group, if they kind of know each other, then there's that comradery, Hey, we're going to support each other. We're going to party together. Hey, we're going to have each other's backs when during the ups and the downs and all of that. But among those of us who came along early, we would talk about whoever was being put upon by the system or by that airline or by something we knew about it, and we would support, because if something was happening at one airline to a black pilot, we look for it to happen at our airlines. So how did we outmaneuver that? How did we navigate those systems? How did we learn from those challenges so that we wouldn't even be confronted with those issues? (53:12) But now, the young people who know each other, they tend to have that camaraderie. But with us, Hey, if you were a brother, and when sisters black women became pilots, we embraced and supported them because we knew how tough it was going to be for all of us young people. They think, oh, well, hey, it is fair. And the story I wanted to tell about the pen I used to wear with the P 51 and with the cockpit painted black. Oh, there was a white pilot and a black pilot, and they were both academy graduates, air Force Academy graduates. And the white pilot said, oh, Tuskegee Airmen. I said, oh, yeah, yeah. I said, they're some of my heroes. And the black pilot says, what? (54:05) And then the white pilot told him, oh, the Tuskegee Airmen did this, this, this, and this. He said, oh, well, I guess I need to brush up on my history. I said, yes, you do. I mean, you a Force Academy grad, and you don't know who the Tuskegee airmen are. That gives you some idea of the deficit in our history that is not being taught among our own people. And some people think that because they have a job and some money in the bank or millions in the bank, that they are immune. None of us are immune from how this system operates when it operates against us. And we need to own our own. We need to train our own. We're at a point now where there's no way that we should be dependent on somebody else to teach or train our own. Because as I experienced doing with my first stint with my first flight instructor, you can be taught wrong. (55:09) The subject can be covered with the items that need to be covered, but you can be taught wrong. And sometimes, for example, just one degree off on a heading for 60 miles, you are one mile off course. So small deviations can cause you to be way off course if you continue on that path. So we really need to know our own history. We need the truth to be taught so that our young people understand, number one, who they are to this social system that we live under and who we are to each other, that we'd better have each other's back and hold each other accountable. Right is right and wrong is wrong. Just because you're black, you don't get a chance. And all this I don't snitch. Well, the thing is, is that what you need to do is hold somebody accountable for bad behavior and destructive behavior in our own community. And we need to understand that our communities are precious and that we need to maintain the land that we have, the homes that we have in our communities, because others will come in and you won't recognize it five, 10 years from now. Wilmer Leon (56:22): I'm chuckling, I'm debating. I'm going to go ahead and bring this up. Just to your point. When the Willis situation developed in Atlanta, I did a show criticizing her for the horrific mistake that she made resulting in the process that she had to go through, and the weapon I took mostly from black women because all I was saying was that behavior is indefensible, especially at that level. She's playing at the level of the game where she's going after the former face of the empire. Capt Clovis Jones (57:13): Yes. Wilmer Leon (57:17): And I made the comment, you have now brought this on yourself. You couldn't keep your panties on, and homeboy can't keep his fly up, man, they came at me, but I hate black women. I have a colonized mind. Oh, who am I to? Oh, because one of the points I made was the community should not be tolerating this type of behavior. We don't want to go and tell our daughters or go and tell our sons that they're supposed to engage like this in the workplace. Oh, man. It was brutal. It was Capt Clovis Jones (57:55): Brutal. And you can attest to this. There's a course that you have in ethics in law school. So hey, where's that? I like the philosophy of Maynard Jackson, first black man of Atlanta. He says, his philosophy was if you are close enough to see the line that you're not supposed to cross, you're too close. And young people need to understand that, hey, you can take risks, but don't take risks on things that are going to come back and hurt you. We used to be told there's always somebody watching you and they were talking about God, the creators. There's always somebody watching you. Well, now there's always somebody watching you because you have these devices that your cameras can be turned on, microphones turned on track wherever you are. Wilmer Leon (58:53): And what was one of the things that they got her on? Cell phone records? Capt Clovis Jones (58:57): Yes. Wilmer Leon (58:58): Yes. Cell phone records. Yes. Well, you said that you only visited him so many. Oh, but his phone seemed to wind up in your driveway 55 times. Now, when I worked in corporate America, at one point, I taught sales ethics to the sales team, and my line to them was the appearance of impropriety in many instances could be worse than the impropriety itself. So just ask yourself, how does it look? And if it looks bad, it's going to be bad. Capt Clovis Jones (59:45): Simple enough. Wilmer Leon (59:46): Hey, simple enough. You and I did a show last week, and as a result of that show, you got a phone call from a young man who was very, very encouraged by what you had to say, a lot of which we have covered in this conversation. And he said to you that you, through your story, let him know he had a lot of work to do in his community. Could you elaborate on that, please? Capt Clovis Jones (01:00:20): Yes. Well, it's a group of us who are in narrative and learning about our history, understanding the principles, Africana studies that no matter where in the world you are, you're an African and your black person, and there's a whole system that's designed not to have you rise above a certain level. How do we recapture? When do we start our history? We started in 1619. We've cut ourselves out of millennia of culture, religion, spirituality, science, inscribed on the pyramid walls. Our people have depicted surgical instruments that are used to this day. So the Greeks did not invent medicine. Hippocratic was not the one who basically founded medicine, not the father of medicine. It was African folk folks that look like you and I. So with that, where's our mindset and what are we waiting on? So it encouraged him to do the work in the community. (01:01:35) So one of the things that I've learned through the years is that for a group of people to make progress or to make any change, good or bad, you have the square root of that number of people say 300,000. Well, you need 600 people, like-minded folks moving in the same direction, maybe not always agreeing, but you're like-minded in making things better, and you're doing the work on the ground to make it happen with whatever your talents are. That shifts the entire population. And so he talked about, Hey, we need to find a way to make this happen so that we can do our work on our own, teach our children. And he's on the ground doing just that. So he said, Hey, I figured it out. I know what we need to do. This is what we need, and these parts of town, now we have the template. Now we got to do the work to make it happen. (01:02:38) And one of the elders said, Hey, we already have the teams in place. It's just a matter of educating the teams to get them to think outside of the borders that they live in and expand their minds and understand that, hey, we were educating folks long before we came to America. We had culture. We had all kinds of things. Now, again, I have to say that everything about Africa is not glor flyable, but there are some things that are so you pick the best because when you do your best, you're going to get better and you're going to advance things rather than destroy things. Wilmer Leon (01:03:22): Captain Clovis Jones, Jr. Thank you so much, sir. Thank you for your service. Thank you for your commitment. Thank you for your work. Thank you for joining me today. Capt Clovis Jones (01:03:33): You're more than welcome. It is my pleasure. And thank you for having me. Wilmer Leon (01:03:37): Well, I'm going to have you back, folks. Thank you so much for listening to the Connecting the Dots podcast with me, Dr. Wier Leon. Stay tuned for new episodes every week. Also, please follow and subscribe. Leave a review, share the show, follow us on social media. You can find all the links below in the show description. And remember, this is where the analysis of politics, culture, and history converge talk without analysis is just chatter, and we don't chatter on connecting the dots. See you again next time. Until then, I'm Dr. Wilmer Leon. Have a good one. Peace. Some lessons. I'm out Announcer (01:04:26): Connecting the dots with Dr. Wilmer Leon, where the analysis of politics, culture, and history converge.

durée : 00:50:41 - Autant en emporte l'Histoire - par : Stéphanie Duncan, Frederic MARTIN - En novembre 1920, Bessie Coleman voit s'éloigner New York du pont d'un paquebot. Cette Afro-américaine intrépide de 23 ans a décidé de tenter sa chance en France, seul pays où elle pourra réaliser son rêve, devenir aviatrice. L'année suivante elle deviendra la première aviatrice noire de l'histoire. - réalisé par : Anne WEINFELD, David Leprince

In this special Black History Month episode, we're diving into a collection of our social media reads and other content that highlights the achievements, contributions, and stories of remarkable individuals throughout history.Black History Spotlights and Impactful People in Black History. Some of the topics, people, and ideas covered in this episode: George Washington Carver revolutionized agriculture with his research on crop rotation and innovative uses for peanuts, soybeans, and sweet potatoes.Mamie Clark, a pioneering psychologist, conducted the groundbreaking "doll tests" that exposed the harmful effects of segregation on Black children's self-esteem and identity. The National Negro League was a professional baseball league formed in 1920, providing opportunities for Black players barred from Major League Baseball due to segregation.During Black History Month, support and contribute by amplifying Black voices, educating yourself and others on Black history and systemic racism, patronizing Black-owned businesses, and actively advocating for social justice.10 lesser-know facts about Martin Luther King Jr. Bessie Coleman, the first African American woman to earn a pilot's license, defied racial and gender barriers to become a celebrated aviator and inspire future generations of Black pilots.James Baldwin, an influential writer and social critic, fearlessly addressed issues of race, sexuality, and identity in his works, challenging societal norms and advocating for civil rights.Join us on this journey as we celebrate authenticity, resilience, and the enduring spirit of Black excellence. Tune in to "Authentically Black" and let's honor the past, embrace the present, and inspire the future.

Sherri L. Smith, author of the critically acclaimed story Flygirl, and Elizabeth Wein, author of the award-winning book Code Name Verity, join forces in AMERICAN WINGS (G.P. Putnam's Sons) to shed light on an important and lesser-known chapter in Black aviation history and Black contributions to aviation during the Golden Age of Flight.   In the years between World War I and World War II, aviation fever was everywhere, including among Black Americans. But what hope did a Black person have of learning to fly in a country constricted by prejudice and Jim Crow laws, where some previous Black aviators like Bessie Coleman had to move to France to earn their wings?   AMERICAN WINGS follows a group of determined Black Americans:  Cornelius Coffey and Johnny Robinson, skilled auto mechanics; Janet Harmon Bragg, a nurse; and Willa Brown, a teacher and social worker. Together, they created a flying club and built their own airfield on Chicago's South Side. As the U.S. hurtled toward World War II, they established a school to train new pilots, teaching both Black and white students together and proving, in a time when the U.S. military was still segregated, that successful integration was possible.   Complete with black-and-white photographs throughout, AMERICAN WINGS brings to light a hidden history of pioneering Black men and women who, with grit and resilience, battled powerful odds for an equal share of the sky. ABOUT THE ELIZABETH WEIN: Elizabeth Wein (LEFT) is a recreational pilot and the owner of about a thousand maps. She is the author of the #1 New York Times bestseller Code Name Verity, as well as the novels Rose Under Fire; Black Dove, White Raven; The Pearl Thief; and The Enigma Game; as well as the nonfiction book A Thousand Sisters: The Heroic Airwomen of the Soviet Union in World War II. Visit her online at elizabethwein.com.   ABOUT THE SHERRI L SMITH: Sherri L. Smith (RIGHT) is the author of several novels for young adults, including the critically acclaimed The Blossom and the Firefly, Flygirl, Orleans, and Pasadena, as well as the middle-grade novel The Toymaker's Apprentice. Visit her online at sherrilsmith.com For more info on the book click HERE --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/steve-richards/support

Exclusive interview with Gigi Coleman, the great niece of first African American female pilot, Bessie Coleman on her great aunt's accomplishment and daring aerial feats and discussion on the case of Texas student Darryl George, who was suspended after refusing to cut his locks, despite the Crown Act which was intended to protect natural styles. 

Season 7: Episode 53 Bessie Coleman was an early American civil aviator. She was the first African-American woman and Native American to hold a pilot license. and is the earliest known Black person to earn an international pilot's license. She earned her license from the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale on June 15, 1921 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- LaKisha LaTaye Davis is a certified life coach, author, event and podcast host, as well as speaker. She is the author of "The Power of Words: Affirmations to Promote You in Life and Business" as well as "The Seven Sins of Social Media: Change Your Approach to Increase Engagement". As a military veteran she has served at the White House Medical Unit, the Pentagon and Walter Reed Army Medical Center. LaTaye is a seasoned leader within the federal and state government as well as big box retail companies. Her professional and personal experiences coupled with her out of the box approach allows her to be able to work with women and men from various demographics and cultures. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/globalgirlspodcast/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/globalgirlspodcast/support

Thom Francis welcomes Erren Geraud Kelly to the stage for a reading at The Linda, WAMC's Performing Arts Studio, presented by the Hudson Valley Writers Guild and literary journals Hobo Camp Review and Trailer Park Quarterly. That night in August 2023, Kelly read a series of memoir poems grouped under the title “8-Track Tape Reminders” along with poems about Tyre Nichols, Bessie Coleman, and women who have caught his eye - a patrol officer in a homeless shelter and a woman in a Starbucks.

Most Americans are well acquainted with the story of Amelia Earhart, but few have heard the name, Bessie Coleman. This fearless legend earned her pilot's license two years before Earhart became certified. This week, as we commemorate Black History Month, we cover the story of Coleman and the countless barriers she faced as an African American woman in the early 1900's set on making a name for herself in performance stunt flying. Learn More: https://viewpointsradio.org/celebrating-black-history-month-the-daredevil-stunt-pilot-youve-never-heard-of Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Amanda begins with a heartwarming story of Black joy, featuring 11-year-old NFL reporter Jeremiah Fennell, whose Super Bowl 58 coverage went viral. An Atlanta hairstylist's transformation of Madam C.J. Walker's historic beauty shop into a museum is highlighted, celebrating the legacy of America's first self-made female millionaire. A Pennsylvania teacher brings Black history to life with historical costumes, making the subject engaging for her students. Tehran, the headliner of the week, joins for "For the Record." The show continues with more Black joy, this time featuring a teacher in Pennsylvania who creatively teaches Black history through costumes. In "For the Record Part 2," comedian Tehran shares more insights. The episode concludes with voicemail checks. The final segment features the Blackspin, discussing the anatomy of a love song, and wraps up with Amanda expressing gratitude for the listeners and previewing the upcoming President's Day long weekend. Listen, Laugh, and Learn on The Amanda Seales Show! If You Have A Comment Leave Amanda A Message At 1 855-Amanda-8 That's 1-855-262-6328 FOLLOW ALONG AS WE COVER:   (1:39) – A Story of Black Joy!    Shout out to Jeremiah Fennell the 11-Year-Old NFL Reporter Who Won Vegas and The World Over with His Super Bowl 58 Coverage.    Jeremiah Fennell is being called “the Best in the Game” after his sports interview with NFL players at the Super Bowl went viral.    He scored one-on-one time with Kansas City Chiefs stars Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce and head coach Andy Reid for the NFL Network on media day ahead of the big game.   (4:00) - The Word Game   (11:15) – We'll go to the phonelines.   (13:24) - IT'S THE AMANDA SEALES SHOW… I'M AMANDA SEALES…    HAPPY BIRTHDAY:       THE WEEKEND       ICE T.    COMING UP:       WE'RE SPREADING MORE BLACK JOY.       OUR RESIDENT MOVIE CRITIC DESMOND THORNE WILL JOIN US FOR WATCH DON'T WATCH.       AND WE'LL CHECK THE VOICEMAIL.   (15:20) - A Story of Black Joy    AN ATLANTA HAIRSTYLIST HAS TRANSFORMED MADAM C.J. WALKER'S HISTORIC BEAUTY SHOP INTO MUSEUM.    The new museum pays homage to America's first self-made female millionaire.    Ricci De Forest, a hairstylist in Atlanta, has transformed a long-standing beauty shop once owned by Madam C.J. Walker into a Black history museum.    It is located in the same neighborhood as Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s childhood home.    Ricci found this historical gem 30 years ago and was able to buy out the space in the hopes of keeping its legacy intact.    She also gained the hair tools that made Madame CJ Walker a household name.    Madame CJ Walker is a known figure in Black history for not only revolutionizing hair care for Black women but developing a line of beauty products that made her America's first self-made female millionaire.    The Madame C.J. Walker Museum is open now for visitors.   (17:37) – Watch Don't Watch with Desmond Thorne!   (23:00) - Things I Learned This Week.   (24:43) – We'll Check the Voicemail.   (28:27) IT'S THE AMANDA SEALES SHOW… I'M AMANDA SEALES.    TODAY IS FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 16, 2026    IT'S NATIONAL CAREGIVERS' DAY!    COMING UP THIS:       WE'RE SPREADING MORE BLACK JOY.       OUR HEADLINER OF THE WEEK - TEHRAN WILL JOIN US FOR, FOR THE RECORD.       AND WE'LL CHECK THE VOICEMAIL.   (29:43) – A Story of Black Joy    A PENNSYLVANIA TEACHER IS BRINGING BLACK HISTORY TO LIFE AT HER SCHOOL WITH HISTORICAL COSTUMES.    Ms. Burton is a Spanish teacher at Collegium Charter School in Exton, Pennsylvania.    She goes above and beyond to honor African American trailblazers by dressing in elaborate costumes, portraying pioneering women and men, to inspire her students.    She then quizzes them on the identity of each, making history come alive in her classroom in the process.    Ms. Tamika Burton has dressed up as Tina Turner, Ella Fitzgerald, Bessie Coleman, and Joe Louis, among other African American trailblazers.    And she has turned Black History Month into a school-wide event. She even hands out treats to students and staff who guess the historical figures correctly.   (31:19) – For the Record with Comedian Tehran   (36:35) – For the Record Part 2   (40:41) – We'll Check the Voicemail.   (44:05) - ARE YOU READY FOR THE WEEKEND?    IT'S A LONG WEEKEND FOR SOME… MONDAY IS A HOLIDAY. IT'S PRESIDENT'S DAY.    COMING UP THIS HOUR:       SHARING MORE BLACK JOY!       THE BLACKSPIN       THINGS I LEARNED THIS WEEK   (45:36) – The Blackspin – The Anatomy of a Love Song.   (49:49) – Thank you for listening!   FOLLOW THE SHOW ON ALL SOCIALS: @Sealessaidit @Amandaseales If You Have A Comment Leave Amanda A Message At 1 855-Amanda-8 That's 1-855-262-6328  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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On Today's episode fo the State of Innovation Podcast, we talk to Chicago Urban Historian Shermann Dilla Thomas on what it means to be an innovator from the city.    Our discussion weaved together the rich history of Chicago with Dilla's insights on the multitude of pathways the city can follow to rekindle its innovative spirit. We discussed historical achievements be Chicago leaders; Bessie Coleman, George Ferris, and many others. We discussed the important history of Chicago's South and West side neighborhoods. Dilla's perspective comes from being a son of Chicago and we want you to join us to learn about why 'Everything Dope About STEM, Comes from Chicago.' Tune in!

Once upon a time, there was a girl who could fly a plane upside down, sideways, and in loop-de-loops. Her name was Bessie Coleman, and she was the very first Black female pilot. She figured out how to make old, rickety planes do amazing things. Bessie pushed the limits of the sky and inspired aviators for years to come. This podcast is a production of Rebel Girls and is based on the book series Good Night Stories for Rebel Girls. This story was produced by Camille Stennis. Sound design and mixing by Mumble Media. This story was written by Jestine Ware and narrated by Doreen Oliver. Haley Dapkus was our Associate Producer. Our Executive Producer was Katie Sprenger. Original theme music was composed and performed by Elettra Bargiacchi. A big thanks to the whole Rebel Girls team who makes this show possible! For more, visit rebelgirls.com. Until next time, stay REBEL!

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On this day in 1892, pioneering aviator Elizabeth “Bessie” Coleman was born in Atlanta, Texas.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Bessie Coleman was born on January 26, 1892. She achieved historic milestones as the first African-American woman to obtain both a pilot's license and an international aviation license. At the age of 18, Coleman utilized her savings to attend the Oklahoma Colored Agricultural and Normal University, completing one term before financial constraints forced her to return home. In 1915, she relocated to Chicago, working as a manicurist and absorbing tales from World War I pilots. Driven by a determination to fly, she journeyed to Paris, where she earned the distinction of being the first African-American woman with an international aviation license and the world's inaugural female aviation pilot. Known for her daring feats, Coleman tragically perished in 1926 at the age of 34 when a plane malfunction led to a fatal crash. Check out the AURN original podcast, INVISIBLE EAGLES: Bessie Coleman Presented By AARP, for more info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Bessie Coleman, a trailblazing aviator who defied racial and gender barriers to become the first African American woman to hold a pilot's license. Join us as we explore Bessie's humble beginnings in Texas, her determination to overcome obstacles, and her relentless pursuit of a dream that would change aviation history. From working as a manicurist to save money for flying lessons to traveling to France to earn her pilot's license when no American flight school would admit her, Bessie's story is one of resilience and perseverance. We delve into the challenges she faced in a segregated and male-dominated industry, and how she used her platform to advocate for equality and inspire future generations.   Get your Homance apparel: nicolebonneville.etsy.com Follow us on IG: @homance_chronicles Connect with us: linktr.ee/homance Send us a Hoe of History request: homancepodcast@gmail.com

Most Americans are well acquainted with the story of Amelia Earhart, but few have heard the story of Bessie Coleman - a courageous African American female pilot - who received her pilot's license two years before Earhart took to the skies. We cover the story of Coleman and the many barriers she faced as an African American woman in the early 1900's determined to make a name for herself as a pioneer in performance stunt flying. Learn More: https://viewpointsradio.org/forget-amelia-earhart-the-story-of-the-first-african-american-female-pilot-who-succeeded-against-all-odds Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

4:09:10 – Frank in New Jersey, plus the Other Side. Topics include: Lock ‘N’ Chase, Super Pocket, Magical Drop VI, Anbernic RG35XX Handheld Game Console, The Exit Ramp #50 – Potato Encounters, THE AMAZING DIGITAL CIRCUS: PILOT, weird synchronicities, Phrivl: Lowercase Gods, Bessie Coleman quarter, weird dreams, Aerosmith, The Brady Kids, plaything the original arcade Lock ‘N’ […]

  4:09:10 – Frank in New Jersey, plus the Other Side. Topics include: Lock ‘N’ Chase, Super Pocket, Magical Drop VI, Anbernic RG35XX Handheld Game Console, The Exit Ramp #50 – Potato Encounters, THE AMAZING DIGITAL CIRCUS: PILOT, weird synchronicities, Phrivl: Lowercase Gods, Bessie Coleman quarter, weird dreams, Aerosmith, The Brady Kids, plaything the original arcade Lock […]

Hello and welcome back to Breakfast with Mom.Today we talk about Bessie Coleman.  Bessie Coleman was a pioneering African American aviator. She was born on January 26, 1892, in Texas.  Bessie Coleman faced racial and gender discrimination but was determined to become a pilot. She moved to France to pursue her dream since flight schools in the United States wouldn't admit her due to her race and gender.  Her legacy continues as an inspiration to aspiring aviators and as a symbol of breaking barriers in aviation history. Please remember to leave us a rating and review and to drop us a message on any of our socials letting us know who you are and where you listen so we can give you a shout out in a future episode.  Today I want to shout out to TJ, he is listening from Texas.  TJ, thank you for listening. I hope you enjoyed this episode!Resources:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wckEiKzCBqchttps://kids.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/bessie-colemanhttps://www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/bessie-colemanhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bessie_Colemanhttps://www.findagrave.com/memorial/19750/bessie-colemanAll the things: Music: "A Sip of Coffee to Relieve Stress" by Katzen TupasLogo Artwork: Strawbeary Studios https://www.youtube.com/@StrawbearyStudios/featuredEpisode was researched, written and edited by ShanoaSocial Media:  https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100090200010112X (formerly Twitter): @breakfastmompodEmail: breakfastwithmompodcast@gmail.comWebsite: https://breakfastwithmompodcast.com/

Patricia Raybon was a journalist and journalism educator for most of her adult life. Now she writes historical mysteries! Her novel All That Is Secret won the Christy Award for Best First Novel in 2022. Patricia and I talked about the second in her mystery series, Double the Lies. We also discussed what it was like for her growing up under Jim Crow, the role the Black church played in her life, the prominence of the Ku Klux Klan in Colorado, and her call to write at the intersection of faith and race. Here is the description of Double the Lies: On a cold spring night in 1924, Annalee Spain offers her new fancy lace handkerchief—a gift from her pastor boyfriend Jack Blake—to a young woman crying in a Denver public library. But later that night, when police find the handkerchief next to the body of the young woman's murdered husband, Annalee becomes the number one suspect, and her panic doubles when she learns that Jack has gone missing. With just days to solve the murder before the city's Klan-run police frame her for the crime, Annalee finds herself hunting for clues in the snowy Colorado mountain town of Estes Park. She questions the victim's wife and her uncle, a wealthy Denver banker—at their mountain lodge—desperate for leads. Instead, she finds a household full of suspects and even more burning questions. Who keeps threatening her, why can't she find Jack, and will a dangerous flirtation be her undoing? Her answers and prayers plumb the depths of the human heart, including her own, exploring long-buried secrets, family lies, and the nature of deceit—all of which could cost the young detective her fledgling love . . . and perhaps even her life. Purchase Double the Lies on Amazon (affiliate). Check out Patricia's website and follow her on Facebook, Instagram, and X. Join Patricia's Reader's Circle here. Also mentioned: Purchase the Father Brown Mysteries on Amazon (books) or purchase the television series (affiliate). Find the Bessie Coleman doll on Amazon (affiliate). The devotional Patricia mentioned: Our Daily Bread. Subscribe to my mailing list to receive free book recommendations and samples of my writing! Join my community and help support the show on Patreon! Join the Historical Fiction: Unpacked Podcast Group on Facebook! Be sure to visit my Instagram, Facebook, and website. Follow the show on Instagram! Purchase Alison's historical novel, One Traveler (affiliate). Disclosure: This post contains affiliate links. If you click them and make a purchase, you help support my work without paying any more for the product. Thank you for your support!

Join 8-year-old Tonya Infinity and her 186-year-old Galapagos tortoise, Gertie, as they hop on a magical time-traveling shell to meet the incredible Bessie Coleman, the first Black woman and Native American to earn an international aviation license!

In this episode, we discuss Bessie Coleman who was the first Black woman pilot, and Kalpana Chowla who was an incredible astronaut. Tragically, both women died doing what they loved. Lastly, we learn about Sir Palmer OBE who overcame injustice and became Scotland's first Black professor.

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Bessie Coleman (1892-1926) was the first African American woman and first Native American to hold a pilot's license. She crossed an ocean to get that license, delighted audiences with high-flying feats, and fought for the right to take flight. This month, we're talking about adventurers – women who refused to be confined. They pushed the boundaries of where a woman could go, and how she could get there. History classes can get a bad rap, and sometimes for good reason. When we were students, we couldn't help wondering... where were all the ladies at? Why were so many incredible stories missing from the typical curriculum? Enter, Womanica. On this Wonder Media Network podcast we explore the lives of inspiring women in history you may not know about, but definitely should. Every weekday, listeners explore the trials, tragedies, and triumphs of groundbreaking women throughout history who have dramatically shaped the world around us. In each 5 minute episode, we'll dive into the story behind one woman listeners may or may not know–but definitely should. These diverse women from across space and time are grouped into easily accessible and engaging monthly themes like Educators, Villains, Indigenous Storytellers, Activists, and many more.  Womanica is hosted by WMN co-founder and award-winning journalist Jenny Kaplan. The bite-sized episodes pack painstakingly researched content into fun, entertaining, and addictive daily adventures.  Womanica was created by Liz Kaplan and Jenny Kaplan, executive produced by Jenny Kaplan, and produced by Grace Lynch, Maddy Foley, Brittany Martinez, Edie Allard, Lindsey Kratochwill, Adesuwa Agbonile, Carmen Borca-Carrillo, Taylor Williamson, Ale Tejeda, Sara Schleede, and Abbey Delk. Special thanks to Shira Atkins. Original theme music composed by Miles Moran. Follow Wonder Media Network: Website Instagram Twitter See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Day 13 “We are each other's harvest; we are each other's business; we are each other's magnitude and bond.” - Gwendolyn Brooks The Address: Rosenwald Apartments, 4648 S Michigan Ave, Chicago, IL, Bronzeville The Story: They came fleeing the terrors of Jim Crow. They came in search of freedom. Still tethered to their southern roots and values, they brought an electrifying energy that would give rise to Black Arts movements, create gospel, and establish a Black mecca known as Bronzeville, the only neighborhood in the country that could rival Harlem as the cultural center of African America. Home to the greats - Gwendolyn Brooks, Richard Wright, Louis Armstrong, Bessie Coleman, Ida B. Wells, and many more. We will start today's exploration of Bronzeville on S. Michigan Ave at the storied Rosenwald Apartments, once managed by Quincy Jones' mother. From here, we will take a stroll down “The Stroll”, a section of State Street that was the place to see and be seen, and the heartbeat of Black Chicago. Along the way we will talk about how the people in this community influenced and changed the world, from politics to social activism.

Plus, listener Nick–a white gentleman–writes in with a question about an alternative way to phrase the description: “Hotep nonsense conspiracy thinking”. Tre'vell and jarrett had differing views on Nick's email so they grappled with the complexity of how to answer him in A Tough Question.DIS/Honorable Mentions jarrettHM: The GwuarhlsRyan MitchellMychael ChinnArchie Jay:hm: Esther Perel's Mating in Captivityhm: Arjun Moorthy, The Factual purchaseTre'vellHM: A League of Their Own on Amazon PrimeHM: Sonic's iceHM: Black History Is Happening EverydayBessie Coleman, the first Black woman and first Native American to hold a pilot license in the world in 1921. Born in 1892 in Atlanta, Texas, the tenth of thirteen children. Recently, an all-Black female flight crew made history in her honor. On Aug. 8, an American Airlines flight from Dallas-Fort Worth — near where Coleman grew up — to Phoenix was operated by the airline's first-ever all-Black female crew.Our Sponsors This WeekBetter HelpIt can be tough to train your brain to stay in “problem-solving mode” when faced with a challenge in life. A therapist can help you become a better problem solver, making it easier to accomplish your goals—no matter how big or small.For 10% off your first month, visit Better Help.com/FANTI.Microdose.comOur show today is sponsored by Microdose Gummies. Microdose Gummies deliver perfect, entry-level doses of THC that help you feel just the right amount of good. To get free shipping & 30% off your first order go to Microdose.com and use code: FANTIGo ahead and @ usEmail: FANTI@maximumfun.orgIG@FANTIpodcast@Jarrett Hill@rayzon (Tre'vell)Twitter@FANTIpodcast@TreVellAnderson@JarrettHill@Swish (Senior Producer Laura Swisher)FANTI is produced and distributed by MaximumFun.orgLaura Swisher is senior producer Music: Cor.eceGraphics: Ashley Nguyen