Podcasts about Roguelike

Featuring: Michael “Boston” Hannon and Paul “Moonpir” Smith Running Time: 13:00 Music by MusiM: Homepage | Bandcamp Livestream Archive: YouTube This week on TVGP's We Roguelike It we finish up our coverage of Into the Restless Ruins! Join us as we chat about a row of armories, a hot new seal play, new characters (?), new weapons (and one we keep missing), achievement agony, and much more! Our next game is Wildfrost! Become a patron of TVGP for just a few dollars a month at E1M1's Patreon Page! Get *two weeks* early access to this show (among other shows), show notes, uncensored outtakes, and more for just $5/month!

Side Quests is back and this episode's host is actor, comedian, musician and recruiter of adventurers, R. Alex Murray! The game he is talking about today is Darkest Dungeon by Red Hook Studios. You can also find his work here! We have a Patreon! Gain access to episode shout outs, bonus podcasts, reviews, early downloads of regular episodes, an exclusive rss feed and more! Click here! You can find the show on Bluesky, Instagram and YouTube! Please rate and review us on Apple Podcasts! Rate us on Spotify! Wanna join the Certain POV Discord? Click here!

Featuring: Michael “Boston” Hannon and Paul “Moonpir” Smith Running Time: 10:41 Music by MusiM: Homepage | Bandcamp Livestream Archive: YouTube This week on TVGP's We Roguelike It we're diving back Into the Restless Ruins! Join us as we chat about beating another stage, unlocking new cards, a hot tip that changes the game, even more cantrips, a ring of mushrooms, and much more! Become a patron of TVGP for just a few dollars a month at E1M1's Patreon Page! Get *two weeks* early access to this show (among other shows), show notes, uncensored outtakes, and more for just $5/month!

The pen is mightier than the sword! This week we crack open that new book smell with a first edition copy of Vellum: the third-person literary hack-and-slash game. We navigate the maze-like stacks, pet some colorful wolf friends, and talk about how many puns is TOO many for understanding a game properly. Don't be quick to judge a book by it's steam store page! There's plenty of spells and quills and swords, but remember: A game a lone a last a loved a long the- Custom RSS Apple Podcasts Spotify YouTube Music Transcript 1:22 - game stats 2:50 - one sentence description 6:47 - Hub world complexity and literary theming commitment 12:37 - Overly complex terminology and ability descriptions 19:04 - Enemy design and literary theme implementation 25:33 - “One more run” phenomenon and replay motivation 29:17 - Positive aspects including UI and visual effects 33:00 - Inscription system and meta progression mechanics 38:26 - Vignette encounters and their effectiveness debate 42:54 - Tome selection system and special level rules 48:07 - Progression gating and attunement level complaints 55:39 - End game content and endless mode discussion 1:01:29 - Boss strategy discovery and magical lamp exploit 1:14:13 - rankings and final thoughts 1:22:08 - similar games 1:24:50 - listener correspondence: does the GROGPOD need a public discord channel? Next episode: 2025 Summer Music Fest Contact us at grogpodzone@gmail.com! https://grogpod.zone Intro music: My Little Brown Book - Duke Ellington, John Coltrane Outro music: Vellum OST - Boss Battle

In dieser Folge sprechen Christina und Florian über Pereelous, ENA: Dream BBQ und Cyber Knights: Flashpoint.

We have a returning guest on the podcast! Welcome back Joe Lambert from the Nerd Sloth Creative. He's here to talk about all the games we've been playing. Make sure and check out his podcast Indie Game Arcade, releasing weekly! We have an incredibly focused podcast today featuring 4 games. We start with Elden Ring Nightreign, the side project from From Software that takes us into a co-op experience in the Elden Ring universe fighting incredibly hard bosses in a battle royale style experience. Avoid the blue flames and fight to the center to face the boss and survive the day!We also review Monster Train 2. This is the sequel to the 2020 roguelike deckbuilder. It's better in every way with brand new cards, new mechanics and enhanced visuals. It's a blast to play with tons of replayability.Peak is a new game that is a collab between the team behind Another Crab's Treasure and Content Warning. It takes you and 3 other players to a mountain where you have to climb to a series of peaks, helping each other up and surviving the weather to reach the top and escape in a helicopter. It's so much fun and super cheap at launch!Lastly, Austin revisits Warhammer 40k Darktide. There is a new, paid DLC that brings a new class and several updates that came for free to all players. Is the game worth diving back into 2025? Show Notes:1:19 - Housekeeping2:12 - Elden Ring Nightreign Review25:56 - Monster Train 2 Review50:15 - Peak Review1:08:58 - Warhammer 40k Darktide Arbites Class Update1:28:51 - Upcoming Video Game Releases Become a part of the conversation! If you donate $1 or more on Patreon you can get exclusive access to the Patreon-only chat and channels on the server. Visit our website to find our social channels, check past podcasts and donate to the show.Subscribe to our YouTube channel to see all of our latest videos as they drop. Credits:"Blue Groove Deluxe" by BlueFoxMusic on audiojungle.netWoman Announcer - Ariana Guerra; Actress"Wisdom" by Super Nostalgia 64

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Featuring: Michael “Boston” Hannon and Paul “Moonpir” Smith Running Time: 11:15 Music by MusiM: Homepage | Bandcamp Livestream Archive: YouTube We're back with TVGP's We Roguelike It and continuing to build overly complicated dungeons in Into the Restless Ruins! Join us as we chat about upgrading cards, going left to right then left again, cantrips, difficulty curves, meta progression, and, of course, The Snake Way. Become a patron of TVGP for just a few dollars a month at E1M1's Patreon Page! Get *two weeks* early access to this show (among other shows), show notes, uncensored outtakes, and more for just $5/month!

Al and Kevin talk about Tiny Garden Timings 00:00:00: Theme Tune 00:00:30: Intro 00:01:25: Anti Relationship Drama Rant 00:05:34: Actual Intro 00:06:56: What Has Kevin Been Up To 00:16:46: Anti Capitalist Rant 00:30:31: What Has Al Been Up To 00:42:44: Game News 01:03:41: Tiny Garden 01:18:27: Outro Links Len’s Island 1.0 Update Sun Haven 2.5 Update Moonstone Island “Evolutions” Update Disney Dreamlight Valley “Mysteries of Skull Rock” Update Snacko 1.0.1 Update Fantasy Life i: The Girl Who Steals Time “Roguelike” Update Harvest Moon: Home Sweet Home coming to Steam/Consoles Contact Al on Mastodon: https://mastodon.scot/@TheScotBot Email Us: https://harvestseason.club/contact/ Transcript (0:00:30) Al: Hello, farmers, and welcome to another episode of the harvest season. (0:00:34) Al: My name is Al. (0:00:35) Kev: My name is Kevin last I’ve been told (0:00:37) Al: And we’re here, and we’re here today to talk about Cottagecore Games. (0:00:42) Kev: Cottage core games whoo (0:00:45) Al: Oh, (0:00:48) Al: oh, we are here. (0:00:51) Al: We’re going to talk about when we are here, I’m alive. (0:00:54) Kev: No (0:00:54) Al: So if I sound tired, this episode is because I’ve had a very busy Saturday. (0:00:58) Al: We were meant to record on Sunday, (0:01:00) Al: to schedule a meeting with me on a Sunday instead. (0:01:04) Al: So I’m doing that. It’s not a work thing. (0:01:06) Al: Don’t worry, I’m not doing work at the weekend. (0:01:08) Al: But it wasn’t really a meeting I could get out of. (0:01:11) Al: So we rescheduled to Saturday, the day that I have all of the family stuff. (0:01:15) Al: So much stuff, way too much stuff. (0:01:15) Kev: Mm-hmm (0:01:17) Al: So I am here and I’m alive. (0:01:18) Kev: Now he’s getting his performance review from his family tomorrow, that’s the me (0:01:26) Al: I saw I saw a TikTok of a couple who do like weekly. (0:01:30) Al: Weekly Relationship Review and people like people got so annoyed about it and I’m like, I don’t understand why you’re annoyed about this. (0:01:38) Al: It’s not they’re not like judging each other and giving each other a right, a raise. (0:01:44) Al: They’re they’re discussing the things that they’re they’ve done and they’re discussing what they’ve got coming up this week and they’re seeing if there’s anything they need to plan and talk about. (0:01:44) Kev: - Yeah. (0:01:52) Al: This is a very good thing to do. (0:01:54) Al: And I think a lot I think the world will be a lot a better place if a lot more people who were in relationships did. (0:02:00) Al: This but I know most people who are in relationships don’t even want to be in those relationships. (0:02:02) Kev: - Yeah. (0:02:05) Al: Miserable people, measurable people who just want to mock somebody and I think the world would be a better place without those relationships. (0:02:15) Al: So but but hey, I actually love my wife. (0:02:16) Kev: Ohhh, goodness. (0:02:18) Al: So sue me. (0:02:22) Kev: I’ll come out guns blazing this episode, um… (0:02:25) Al: I just I get so annoyed with the boomer joke of like all my ball and chain. (0:02:30) Al: My wife is like, OK, like leave them then. (0:02:32) Kev: Yeah, it (0:02:37) Kev: Yeah, yeah (0:02:37) Al: I just I show and why are you staying there? (0:02:40) Al: I mean, this is why your kids are terrible people, because you they don’t know what a family looks like, because you’re just going to hate your your partner and resent them for it and then take it out on your children. (0:02:53) Kev: Yeah, it’s it’s fascinating. Well, I mean obviously one the you know that attitude mentality has somewhat shifted to a degree (0:03:04) Kev: but it’s fascinating just (0:03:06) Kev: To you know, there’s been studies done and whatever I’ve read some stuff like because you know back in the day (0:03:12) Kev: You your dating pool was limited to pretty much whoever was in the neighborhood, right? (0:03:14) Al: Hmm. Yeah, yeah. Least objection will prepare us on my street. (0:03:19) Kev: Right (0:03:21) Kev: Yep, right, so you know (0:03:23) Kev: That kind of environment leads to the ball and chain mentality, right? (0:03:29) Kev: But you know current day and age with the online and the you know, generally easier ish travel (0:03:39) Kev: Obviously that’s no longer the case (0:03:42) Al: Also, you can be single, right? Like, I’m not saying it’s easy, right? Like, as someone who has (0:03:45) Kev: You can’t sure (0:03:48) Kev: Yeah (0:03:49) Al: basically never been single, right? Like, I got married when I was 22, like, I, you know, (0:03:51) Kev: Uh-huh (0:03:56) Al: been with, well, first got together with my wife when I was 16, right? So, like, I am not a single (0:04:02) Al: person. I have very rarely been a single person, but you can do that. That’s the thing you can do. (0:04:08) Kev: You, you can. Yeah. (0:04:09) Al: Like, if you hate someone, you don’t have to- (0:04:11) Kev: You can. (0:04:12) Al: you don’t have to spend your time with them! You can just not, and you can have friends instead. (0:04:14) Kev: Yeah. Yeah. (0:04:16) Al: And I suspect, if there were more people who didn’t stay in loveless marriages, (0:04:21) Al: then maybe being single would be less terrible as well, because there would be more single people. (0:04:24) Kev: Yeah, yeah, well again, you know the culture back then very different right like marriage was (0:04:25) Al: Crazy idea. (0:04:32) Al: Yeah, but it’s not a solved problem. There are still a lot of miserable people, (0:04:35) Kev: It is not you’re right you’re (0:04:36) Al: and there’s a lot of people who think that marriage is just one of the things you have to do. (0:04:40) Kev: Yeah, you know you’re right that pressure is absolutely still there um yeah (0:04:46) Al: Quite often external to the person who’s being pressured into it, I suspect. (0:04:49) Kev: Absolutely absolutely (0:04:55) Al: Friendships are important, and we need to have friendships and not assume that the only (0:04:59) Al: relationship that matters is a romantic one. There we go, I’m done. (0:05:02) Al: One name. (0:05:02) Kev: Okay, well, you know, yes, these are true. You’re saying things that are true and not particularly objectionable, but you know, you’re, you’re arguing against the hundreds of years of weird cultural nonsense so yeah, yeah, so. (0:05:17) Al: Well, there is that. (0:05:20) Al: Listeners, listeners object to it. (0:05:22) Al: I want to see your arguments for why everyone should get married. (0:05:26) Al: I will vehemently disagree with them because they’re stupid, (0:05:27) Al: and you probably don’t believe them. (0:05:29) Al: But give me them anyway. (0:05:30) Al: It’ll be fun to have an argument. (0:05:32) Kev: That’s what we do on this show. We argue against. (0:05:35) Al: We’re going to talk about Tiny Garden this episode. (0:05:37) Al: So this is the… (0:05:37) Kev: I thought we were here to delve into culturally in a relationship mechanics. (0:05:43) Al: It’s a relationship episode. (0:05:45) Al: Kevin, tell me about like. (0:05:47) Al: Tell me about your relationships, and no don’t I don’t I don’t think I don’t think the pod needs to hear them (0:05:49) Kev: Oh, yeah, I mean, that’s it. Well, romantic ones, that’s easy. They don’t exist. Otherwise, well, that’s, that’s, yeah, okay. (0:06:03) Kev: Okay, moving on, um. (0:06:04) Al: I don’t think I don’t think the podcast needs to hear your therapy. (0:06:08) Kev: Yeah, no, that that is little of my therapist is for him. Okay, I love my family but good heavens I can’t live with them can’t live without them sort of deal. (0:06:19) Kev: Yeah. (0:06:19) Al: Can’t live with them, have to live with them. (0:06:21) Kev: Yeah. (0:06:22) Al: We are going to talk about Tiny Garden. (0:06:24) Al: It is the Polly Pocket farming game. (0:06:26) Kev: Yep. (0:06:28) Al: Kevin has not played it, he thought about playing it and never did. (0:06:31) Al: I have played it a little bit. (0:06:34) Al: And so it’s going to be a reasonably… (0:06:36) Al: Kevin watched some videos. (0:06:37) Al: You watched some videos, right? (0:06:38) Kev: Yeah, yeah, I mean it’s not like it’s a particularly in-depth game, right like yeah, so even (0:06:43) Al: No, no, let’s start. (0:06:44) Al: Well, let’s save that. (0:06:45) Al: Save that for the, save that for the, save it for the pod. (0:06:46) Kev: Okay. All right. Well, okay (0:06:48) Al: We’re already in the pod. (0:06:49) Al: Save it for the appropriate section, Kevin. (0:06:52) Al: Before that, we have a bunch of news. (0:06:54) Al: This has been a reasonably busy Newsweek. (0:06:56) Al: But first of all, Kevin, what have you been up to? (0:06:59) Kev: Okay, not a lot of work as I tend to do because I’m I don’t know work (0:07:07) Kev: but (0:07:08) Kev: aside from that, let’s see here um okay you know i’m gonna take a brief second to (0:07:14) Kev: talk about zone the zone zero my segment for nobody but me um so the 2.0 update came out (0:07:16) Al: Go for it. (0:07:20) Kev: I didn’t have internet when it did but I have internet again i’ve caught up i’ve done the 2.0 (0:07:25) Kev: stuff and you know it’s added a lot of stuff that anyone who plays the game might be interested but (0:07:31) Kev: for people who don’t it did i’d be talking nonsense the the big thing I think is interesting (0:07:36) Kev: is kind of the tonal shift. (0:07:38) Kev: So Zenless Zone Zero, the 1.0, the chapter 1, whatever, the first year of the game, (0:07:46) Kev: it was the aesthetic, the tone of it was very, it’s going to sound very like 2000, like (0:07:55) Kev: OTS, you know, that decade specifically. (0:07:59) Kev: People have flip phones and they’re still like CRTs and stuff like that. (0:08:04) Kev: And it’s very sci-fi heavy. (0:08:08) Kev: The main characters are hackers. (0:08:11) Kev: And there’s these like monsters that spawn out of fake matter called the ether or whatever. (0:08:19) Kev: Anyways, the point is it’s very sci-fi heavy. (0:08:21) Kev: That’s the tone and not like super futurama or Jetsons futuristic sci-fi, just like current, (0:08:30) Kev: you know, more current day looking tech. (0:08:34) Kev: But that’s the tone. (0:08:35) Kev: I’m just comparing it to like Genshin is much more fantasy based. (0:08:38) Kev: I’m just painting the picture because they shifted the tone in 2.0, the protagonists join a temple of monks like you know like, sort of a, gosh I wish I had the proper names, (0:09:05) Kev: But you know the stereotypical like (0:09:08) Kev: Temple out in the mountains where monks are trading wonder martial arts and mysticism and that sort of thing (0:09:15) Kev: And so that’s that’s kind of the direction they’re going with (0:09:20) Kev: There’s a new like city area that you’re spending your time in. It’s very much based off (0:09:26) Kev: that kind of (0:09:28) Kev: Not so rural Japan China, but like out in the mountains sort of area (0:09:34) Kev: So it’s a very different feeling from the (0:09:38) Kev: Bay City, which is very like (0:09:42) Kev: Metropolitan lots of big buildings and skyscrapers and whatever that that one feels more like I don’t know Beijing (0:09:49) Kev: I guess you know very modern type China and this one is a more this new area. This new tone is much more traditional (0:09:57) Kev: Chinese (0:09:59) Kev: And you know, it’s it’s it’s fun. I’ll nothing’s nearly wrong (0:10:03) Kev: It’s just I don’t feel so different because the whole first year of the game (0:10:07) Kev: your your tacker person. (0:10:08) Kev: and you you you do hacker things and now you’re training to be a mystic very very odd to me at least but but but anyways regardless the game is still fun I’m still playing it yada yada so that’s that let’s see what else Pokemon unite all Kremie came out all Kremie is great it’s a supporter it does all the things you’d want it to do it it decorates and heals your team it’s unite it creates (0:10:28) Al: - Ah, nice. (0:10:30) Al: - Ow, creamy. (0:10:38) Kev: it’s a giant cake and stands on top of it and it just spreads globs of healing whipped cream to all your teammates I like all Kremie it’s very fun I mean I like all Kremie the Pokemon period and it’s great and unite so yay all Kremie um let’s see other than that uh oh you know I’m gonna take a second here to talk about card games okay so (0:11:08) Kev: you probably don’t keep up with magic the gathering years have you heard anything about magic the gathering recently mm-hmm okay okay okay yeah yeah yeah (0:11:12) Al: I used to play a lot of magic when I worked in an office because there was a magic (0:11:19) Al: league there, but I’ve not kept up basically since 2019. I’m aware that there’s been a lot of (0:11:28) Al: crossover sets recently. There was a Doctor Who one, I believe, A Lord of the Rings one, (0:11:32) Al: a Final Fantasy one, so I’m aware that they’re doing a lot of crossovers just now and there are (0:11:38) Al: many opinions about that shall we see. (0:11:38) Kev: y’all (0:11:40) Kev: there are many opinions. So the Final Fantasy one came out a week ago, I think, the Final (0:11:42) Al: Right, yeah. (0:11:46) Kev: Fantasy crossover set. And this one is a particularly contentious set for two reasons. One, it is (0:11:55) Kev: what they call a standard set, meaning that it is in the card pool. In previous crossovers (0:12:03) Kev: sets, they would kind of, you know, they wouldn’t be standard legal or tournament legal or whatever, (0:12:08) Kev: You know, they’d be kind of more for funs easy. (0:12:08) Al: Oh, interesting. Okay. (0:12:10) Kev: Or, you know, just for between friends or whatever, right? (0:12:12) Kev: This one is in, in your face, like in the card pool. (0:12:17) Kev: And a lot of people aren’t happy about it because there’s the (0:12:19) Kev: crossovers have been so prevalent lately. (0:12:22) Kev: Um, but you know, that that’s, that’s one discussion. (0:12:26) Kev: The other issue that isn’t less of opinions and more just like out cry (0:12:32) Kev: outrage, um, is the insane pricing. (0:12:37) Kev: uh… because magic the gathering has gone through the roof (0:12:40) Kev: in terms of cost (0:12:41) Kev: uh… (0:12:43) Kev: so okay you know here out for comparison (0:12:46) Kev: uh… any other game pokemon yugioh (0:12:49) Kev: work on a whatever (0:12:51) Kev: a pre-constructed deck they go out to the store and buy off the shelf (0:12:55) Kev: can be let’s say fifteen dollars on average us_d (0:12:57) Al: Mm-hmm, yep, yep. (0:12:58) Kev: okay (0:12:59) Kev: uh… it is what it is just maybe (0:13:00) Al: Science, science fair, science fair. (0:13:02) Kev: yeah right it’s it’s it’s fine (0:13:04) Kev: you know dig to get you started to a product that you can actually start (0:13:08) Kev: start playing the game, right? (0:13:10) Kev: In Magic the Gathering, so they come out with commander decks, you know, there’s different formats and command is the popular one (0:13:18) Kev: That’s that’s their primary like pre-constructed deck thing that comes out (0:13:25) Kev: Right now they came out or it was just last year they had updated the MSRP to be about you believe (0:13:32) Kev: $45 (0:13:34) Al: Oh, for a… because a commander’s 40 cards, is that right? Oh, a hundred, right? Okay, sorry. (0:13:35) Kev: USD (0:13:40) Kev: To be fair it is it is a bigger deck right, but it’s in my opinions (0:13:42) Al: My bad. A hundred cards for for $45, that’s wild. (0:13:46) Kev: You know (0:13:47) Kev: It’s pricey. It’s it’s very pricey, right? (0:13:51) Kev: I’m just you know, I think that illustrates the scale of like how much magic costs now, right? Okay (0:13:57) Kev: Final fantasy set because they know final fantasy is popular people (0:14:02) Kev: They know a Hasbro Hasbro is the the current owner of the magic franchise and makes these pricing decisions (0:14:10) Kev: They know people are gonna be excited. They marked up the MSRP for the Final Fantasy set (0:14:19) Kev: The a (0:14:21) Kev: Commander pre-con for Final Fantasy is I believe 70 USD MSRP (0:14:28) Kev: I’d say that because a lot of (0:14:30) Kev: You know, it’s a lot of local card games and shops that will run carry these products (0:14:36) Kev: they will mark up their products anyways even if there is an MSR (0:14:40) Kev: so you know these things are going through the roof like over $100 and (0:14:45) Kev: whatnot and so it’s insanity and that’s not even the premium they came out with (0:14:51) Kev: these premium versions of these decks where like the everything’s foil or (0:14:54) Kev: whatever those are 125 MSRP I think something ridiculous so so obviously you (0:15:04) Al: Hmm. Yeah. (0:15:08) Kev: You know, they are just… (0:15:10) Kev: They are just robbing the customers blind, and obviously people aren’t happy, but they are still selling like hotcakes because I don’t know, that’s the magic of players I guess. (0:15:20) Kev: As I’ve been on record, I have dabbled in magic, but I’m not very keen on those prices, so I don’t pick up a lot. (0:15:28) Kev: But, I do like Final Fantasy, and here’s the kicker, right, if the cards suck, that’d be easier just to not play, but a lot of the cards are good looking, or they look fun to play or whatever. (0:15:40) Kev: So, the temptation is there. (0:15:42) Kev: So, what I did is instead of buying any Final Fantasy stuff for magic, I went back to the actual Final Fantasy trading card game, which I need to remind people actually exists. (0:15:54) Kev: It’s still going, it’s still coming out with stuff. (0:15:56) Kev: So yeah, I did a game night with some friends, and we played out of not wanting to spend money, we dusted off some Final Fantasy decks, and that’s it. (0:16:10) Kev: That was fun. And man, the Final Fantasy TCG, it’s pretty good. (0:16:14) Kev: I like the rhythm of the game, it’s not insane or busted right now. (0:16:18) Kev: And the cards, it’s a very weird thing, but the card stock, they’re very thick and durable, it’s not a flimsy paper cardboard thing. (0:16:26) Kev: It’s very nice, it feels almost plastic-y. (0:16:30) Kev: But anyways, yeah, I picked up and played some Final Fantasy TCG, that’s fun stuff, just because magic’s insane. (0:16:40) Kev: I’m not gonna do that again right now. (0:16:42) Kev: But that that’s that’s all I’ve been going on not not too terribly much. What about you l what you’ve been up to? (0:16:46) Al: Well I want to go on an anti-capitalist rant first. So your comments about them, you know, (0:16:49) Kev: I mean as we do (0:16:56) Al: marking up the stuff, it reminds me of a thing I’ve been annoyed about recently, where people (0:17:04) Al: will go “oh everything’s expensive” and then other people go “oh that’s just supply and demand” (0:17:09) Al: as if supply and demand is like some inherent law of physics that means that (0:17:16) Al: the price is out of our hands. The demand is high therefore the price must be high. (0:17:23) Al: Yeah that’s not how that works. It’s not like the price is determined by, you know, (0:17:29) Al: what a seller wants to sell for it and what a buyer wants to buy for it and meeting somewhere (0:17:32) Kev: Mm-hmm. (0:17:34) Kev: Right. (0:17:36) Al: where, you know, if they try and put it too high then people won’t buy it blah blah blah etc etc. (0:17:40) Kev: Mm-hmm. (0:17:41) Al: And supply and demand just says that as demand, as supply increases… (0:17:47) Al: and demand decreases, no, is that what I said? There’s a point in the middle where they meet (0:17:53) Al: and you’ve got like a ideal price, if you will, based on the amount of supply and the amount of (0:17:53) Kev: Yes (0:17:57) Kev: Mm-hmm (0:17:59) Al: demand. And all really supply and demand means is that if there’s a high demand and a low supply, (0:18:05) Al: they can charge basically whatever they want, right? Like that is how it’s not like the price (0:18:12) Al: has to be sold for a certain point, right? Like they just go, we know people are (0:18:16) Al: going to buy it, therefore supply and demand says we can charge more, and we’ll get more money. (0:18:22) Kev: Mm-hmm (0:18:23) Al: Right? Like that is just how it works. And I just, it gets really frustrating when people are like, (0:18:27) Al: “Oh, it’s just supply and demand.” As if, “Oh, don’t look at me. I’m not the one deciding the (0:18:32) Al: price. Supply and demand is deciding the price.” What are you talking about? That’s not how this (0:18:38) Al: works, right? Like we decide prices, and if people think it’s too high, and they don’t buy it like (0:18:45) Al: you have done. (0:18:46) Al: enough people did what you were doing, they would have to decrease the price to sell (0:18:48) Kev: Yeah. Well. (0:18:50) Al: it. (0:18:51) Al: But of course, we are willing to spend the money. (0:18:54) Al: Enough people are willing to spend the money that they can just sell it for whatever they (0:18:58) Al: want and people will keep going up. (0:19:01) Al: You know, it’s like how, it’s the reason the Mario Kart world is $80. (0:19:07) Al: It’s because they know people will buy it and supply and demand for the record makes (0:19:11) Al: no sense in our digital economy, right? (0:19:15) Al: like there is no there is no (0:19:15) Kev: Yeah, and it is. (0:19:16) Al: it’s infinite supply so theoretically supply and demand should say that if (0:19:21) Al: there’s infinite supply there should be a very very low price it just like that (0:19:26) Kev: Yeah well, well, yeah (0:19:28) Al: is but no that’s not how it actually works because that’s the price is based (0:19:33) Al: on what people are actually willing to pay but that’s if you if you took purely (0:19:35) Kev: Yes, yeah (0:19:38) Al: supply and demand and nothing else and said this is what this means digital (0:19:42) Al: games should be free. (0:19:43) Kev: Well, that’s it. Well, here’s the thing, right? Okay, as I’m sure you can, I’ve only took like two economics class. I do a little economics though, but here’s the thing, right? Supply into it. That is, what is supply? You want to dive into that? That’s what determines supply. Now we’re getting into something, right? (0:19:58) Al: All right, yeah, okay, fair enough. Fair enough. I guess like the supply for a digital game (0:20:06) Al: is the number of consoles that are, right? Like you’re not going to… (0:20:08) Kev: Yeah, or, or, right, it’s, yeah, and, and in terms of the price. (0:20:13) Kev: Right, like the, you know, that, what did you see in economics? (0:20:16) Kev: You see the, you see like a graph, right? (0:20:19) Kev: Which is like, I guess number of units and number of, uh, and the price or whatever. (0:20:23) Kev: And so you’re right. (0:20:24) Kev: Um, it, uh, it gets weird digitally, but what determines that graph? (0:20:30) Al: That’s my point. That’s my point is there’s so, there’s so many things that break down. (0:20:31) Kev: Where does, yeah. (0:20:33) Al: It’s not in an, in a, in a, I love the, have you ever had the physics joke, um, which is, uh, Oh, two seconds. (0:20:43) Al: Let me double check so I don’t end up saying it. (0:20:46) Kev: Is it, I mean, I know a couple physics joke as an engineer, nerd, major, degree holder. (0:20:53) Al: So, there was the physics joke, right, where there’s a farmer whose chicken wouldn’t lay (0:20:59) Kev: Uh-huh, yep. (0:20:59) Al: any eggs. And to solve the problem, he hires a physicist. And the physicist says, “Oh, (0:21:06) Al: I’ve come up with a solution, but my solution requires a spherical chicken in a vacuum.” (0:21:08) Kev: Uh-huh. (0:21:12) Al: And the point of that joke is that so many things in physics are theoretical and only (0:21:17) Kev: Yeah, yeah. (0:21:19) Al: work in a very specific set of scenarios. (0:21:23) Al: And you can’t then necessarily say, “This happens here, therefore that happens in (0:21:28) Al: the real world as well.” (0:21:29) Al: And I feel like a lot of economics of that is that as well. (0:21:32) Al: It’s like in this perfect ideal economic world where these 10 things all exist, then this (0:21:36) Kev: Yeah (0:21:39) Kev: No (0:21:39) Al: will happen. (0:21:40) Al: And it’s like, but that’s not how the world works. (0:21:42) Al: And digital games is a perfect example of how that just completely falls on us. (0:21:46) Al: It falls over, right? (0:21:47) Al: Like, because it just, it doesn’t make any sense. (0:21:49) Al: What is supply when you’re talking about a digital thing? (0:21:52) Al: It’s not a thing. (0:21:53) Al: Right? (0:21:54) Al: It doesn’t make any sense. (0:21:54) Kev: Yeah, and and I’m really we yeah, you know we can get down to it really if (0:22:02) Kev: This would be a more interesting conversation if you know, we were looking at just supply factors like okay (0:22:09) Kev: How do you distribute, you know, what are the competition yada yada, whatever, right? (0:22:13) Kev: But we all know the truth in the current day and age late-stage capitalism, whatever you want to call it (0:22:19) Kev: there is a significant portion of that price being determined by (0:22:24) Kev: The shareholders the see the executives. They just want a whole lot of money (0:22:30) Kev: the day (0:22:32) Kev: That’s that’s what it all boils down to oh (0:22:34) Al: Yeah, yeah. (0:22:36) Kev: Man, man. Okay, you know, all right since we’re on this (0:22:40) Kev: The absurdity of economics and and prices I’ll go back. I’ll go right back to magic (0:22:46) Kev: Are you familiar with magic 30? (0:22:48) Al: I am not. Is it a version of Magic where you have 30 cards? (0:22:52) Kev: No (0:22:52) Al: Ah, good guess though, right? (0:22:55) Kev: Yeah, oh that mmm, you know, I actually I think standards 40 so you’re not far off that that would be fun, but um, okay (0:23:05) Kev: Okay, here it is so this was a couple years ago (0:23:11) Kev: Magic the Gathering (0:23:14) Kev: Whatever Hasbro was to the coast whatever they released a project called magic 30 or it’s the med the 30th anniversary edition set (0:23:23) Al: - Ah, okay, yep. (0:23:25) Kev: Okay, this was this was a 2022 that the year was okay (0:23:30) Kev: and so (0:23:32) Kev: it’s it’s probably the most absurd like magic product ever released because (0:23:40) Kev: each box (0:23:41) Kev: This product contained 15 booster packs and these booster packs the cards inside them were like, oh, you know (0:23:48) Kev: Very classic original magic cards or whatever with original art (0:23:53) Kev: So much so that (0:23:55) Kev: It was so faithful to the original stuff that because magic rotates and has you know form different formats (0:24:01) Kev: They actually said okay. None of these cards are actually going to be playable (0:24:06) Kev: They’re just not gonna be legal in anything. It is basically just fake real fake cards that we’re printing. We’re collecting I guess (0:24:16) Kev: Okay (0:24:18) Kev: How how much would you pay for a box of (0:24:23) Kev: 15 packs of fake cards. (0:24:24) Kev: Real fake cards, Al. (0:24:26) Al: I mean it depends what it is, right? Like, so let’s create a scenario where this is Pokémon, (0:24:32) Al: right? It’s essentially just like a collector’s deck that you can never use in tournaments. (0:24:36) Al: I’m not going to use it in tournaments, it doesn’t really affect how much I would pay for it, right? (0:24:40) Al: Like I’m a sucker who will pay stupid amounts of money for collector’s things, (0:24:45) Al: so probably way too much money. I think if we’re… So if we’re just talking a deck, (0:24:48) Kev: Okay, give me (0:24:51) Al: so we’re talking… How many… Was that a 40 pack, a standard set? (0:24:52) Kev: Yeah (0:24:54) Kev: It was 15 packs is what it was here. Yep. No, no (0:24:57) Al: Oh, 15 packs. Oh, it’s not even a deck, right? OK. So let’s go with… (0:25:06) Al: I feel like in the world where this is Pokémon, maybe I’m paying like £5 a pack, (0:25:08) Kev: You know what hope (0:25:14) Al: because that’s more… I think it’s like £3 a pack just now in the UK, (0:25:18) Al: so we’re maybe talking like £75. And that would feel like… That would maybe feel like a lot, (0:25:22) Kev: Okay. (0:25:24) Al: and I’d be like oh I don’t know how (0:25:27) Kev: Okay. (0:25:28) Kev: So let’s see, five pounds, I’ll just forget. (0:25:30) Kev: Okay, that’s about six, seven USD. (0:25:32) Kev: Okay, sure. (0:25:34) Kev: So times 15, that’s, what is that? (0:25:36) Kev: 50 plus 25, that’s 75. (0:25:38) Kev: Okay, so that’s 75 pounds, (0:25:40) Kev: which yeah, about 100 USD maybe. (0:25:42) Kev: Okay, okay, I see what you’re saying, right? (0:25:45) Al: But like, that’s not “I’m definitely going to buy that.” (0:25:47) Al: That’s “Ooh, that feels like a lot. (0:25:50) Kev: Yeah, sure, sure, sure. (0:25:50) Al: Maybe I would buy it if it was something I really wanted.” (0:25:52) Kev: Right. (0:25:53) Kev: Yeah, okay, that’s the crazy price. (0:25:55) Kev: And then that’s good, okay. (0:25:57) Kev: Yeah, okay, I understand. (0:25:58) Kev: You know what, I can see that. (0:26:01) Kev: Yeah, you know what? (0:26:02) Kev: I could agree with that price, right? (0:26:04) Kev: For the hardcore collector who really wants the thing. (0:26:07) Kev: Yeah, you know what, I could say that. (0:26:09) Kev: All right, now, what if I told you the price (0:26:12) Kev: of this magic product was 10 times what you just told me? (0:26:16) Al: What? Ten times. So what? A thousand? A thousand dollars. That is… (0:26:20) Kev: 10 times. (0:26:22) Kev: USD. Yup, 999 technically. laughs (0:26:28) Al: I mean, OK, right. So we laugh at that, but Pokemon basically did that, right? With their… (0:26:33) Al: They had a collector’s box, limited edition, and it was several hundred dollars. I can’t even remember (0:26:40) Kev: - Sure, wasn’t four digits. (0:26:41) Al: it was. But like, I mean, that was more than that was, I wasn’t four digits, it was. (0:26:46) Al: Three digits, but I feel like it was not far off it, and it did include, it did include, (0:26:50) Al: like, you know, very nice dice and card sleeves and stuff like that. I can’t remember how (0:26:54) Kev: oh yes you know if you get a nice uh is it like the charizard premium collection is that the one (0:26:55) Al: much it was. Do you know the box I’m talking about? No, no, no, I’m talking about there (0:27:00) Kev: you’re talking or is it a different one oh oh the the one yes the really nice one that they (0:27:02) Al: was like an. Yes, the like all black one, I can’t remember what it was called. (0:27:06) Kev: did in a direct yes yes I remember that yes yeah yeah to be fair like didn’t that have like a full (0:27:13) Kev: set of cards or whatever like it wasn’t just packs even right like it was like designed as a game (0:27:19) Kev: almost right that you could play with someone um oh gosh the (0:27:21) Al: Yes. Yes. Oh, there we go. It’s the class. I think it’s the classic box set. Yes, it (0:27:25) Kev: classic yeah black something like that I can’t remember um (0:27:30) Al: was a full set. You could play a full game and it looks like it’s brand new here. It’s (0:27:32) Kev: yeah yeah yeah pokum (0:27:35) Al: £400. So quite a lot. So that’s maybe what? $500. And we’re talking and presumably the (0:27:37) Kev: yep yeah yeah yeah okay (0:27:45) Al: packs were just the packs. There wasn’t anything else with them. (0:27:50) Kev: Yeah, okay. I’m looking on Pokemon Center. It says 400 USD, I think (0:27:52) Al: Yeah. Okay. And it was like recreations of the original cards and it was like full on (0:27:55) Kev: But regardless at least it was a full dang set. They could play with you know people, right? (0:28:02) Kev: Yeah, yeah (0:28:03) Al: nostalgia, but it was a full set. You could sit down with just this box and play an entire (0:28:09) Kev: Yeah, you could play different games and stuff right at least it’s that right this was literally (0:28:15) Kev: MT the MTG 3 was literally 15 packs. That’s all it was (0:28:19) Al: That’s wild, so we’re talking more than twice the price of this, (0:28:24) Al: and it doesn’t include any of the extra stuff. It’s just 50. (0:28:24) Kev: Yep (0:28:26) Kev: Nope not even I mean, I mean maybe you could make a deck it wouldn’t work probably but you know like (0:28:33) Kev: You can’t you can’t play you can’t open this and play again with friends. I don’t think unless you’re just making up (0:28:34) Al: And this box is insanely expensive, this Pokémon one. (0:28:41) Kev: Yeah, yeah it is (0:28:42) Al: You know, for what it is, of course it’s sold out, because everything Pokémon sells out. (0:28:46) Al: But yeah, wow, that’s mad. (0:28:48) Kev: Yeah, I know yeah, that’s yep, that’s wild um oh wow actually I’m looking online you can buy (0:28:56) Kev: There’s one here on TZG player for like 250 is that right huh anyways, but still yeah (0:29:02) Al: Still, still too much money. (0:29:04) Kev: Yeah, no, that’s a lot. Don’t get me wrong, but I just (0:29:07) Al: And that’s a quarter of the price of 15 packs of this magic one. Mad. That’s, that is wild. (0:29:09) Kev: Yeah (0:29:12) Kev: Magic 30th (0:29:14) Kev: Good times (0:29:15) Al: All right. Are we done with the anti-capitalist rants? Capitalism is bad. We hate it. (0:29:16) Kev: so yeah (0:29:17) Kev: So (0:29:20) Kev: We’re done (0:29:22) Al: Don’t, don’t abuse supplying to man to rip people off just because you can. (0:29:24) Kev: Hasbro is bad (0:29:28) Kev: I will say this (0:29:30) Kev: So about Magic 30th (0:29:34) Kev: They were going to have a limited run or whatever (0:29:38) Kev: Oh, there’s going to be X number of boxes produced or whatever (0:29:42) Kev: And so, you know, it was a big deal (0:29:44) Kev: Okay, we’re launching the sale on this time on the website, yada yada (0:29:48) Kev: We got down the sale, I think, after like an hour (0:29:52) Kev: There was no explicit reason given (0:29:54) Kev: But most people assume they didn’t sell a thing (0:29:58) Kev: That’s what I’m thinking (0:30:00) Kev: Or what most people think (0:30:02) Al: That’s crazy. (0:30:02) Kev: Anyways, there you go (0:30:03) Al: It’s a thousand it’s a thousand pounds as well. (0:30:04) Kev: Your fun anecdote in Magic history (0:30:06) Al: I’m looking at it on on the UK site, it’s a thousand pounds. (0:30:06) Kev: Yup, yup (0:30:10) Kev: Oh, goodness (0:30:11) Al: Each display worthy box includes 15 card for 15 card booster packs. (0:30:16) Al: Oh, wait, it’s not 15 packs, it’s four packs. (0:30:18) Kev: Oh, I misread that, it’s four p- (0:30:22) Kev: Oh, yeah (0:30:23) Al: It’s 60, it’s 60 cards. (0:30:24) Kev: 60 cards, oh my gosh (0:30:26) Kev: Oh, that’s incredible (0:30:29) Al: That is so stupid. (0:30:30) Kev: Tell me about your week out (0:30:32) Al: Uh, but I’ve been playing Mario Kart, that’s that’s all I’ve been playing. (0:30:38) Kev: Man (0:30:40) Kev: So you talked about it, I talked about it (0:30:44) Kev: I don’t know if we stressed how good Knockout Tour is (0:30:46) Kev: That’s a good mode. (0:30:47) Al: Yeah, so I’ve been, when we last talked about it, I had not played the knockout tour by that point. (0:30:54) Al: I was going through the Grumprees, three-starring them. I finished the Grumprees, they’re all (0:30:59) Al: three-starred, and I am halfway through the knockout tours, three-starring them. Yeah, (0:31:04) Al: I really like them. I will say, it is a bit frustrating when you go through, because it’s (0:31:10) Al: eight gates, you have to go through with the last one being, that’s your final position unless you (0:31:15) Al: you get an octave before. (0:31:17) Al: And so to get three star in a knockout tour, you have to come first in every single gate, (0:31:24) Al: which is a lot of work. (0:31:27) Al: And I’ve been a couple of times where I’ve gone, yeah, there’s a couple of times where (0:31:31) Al: I have gone, like, it takes a while to get through the first gate, but after you got (0:31:35) Al: the first gate, you can quite often get a lot of gates, right? (0:31:38) Kev: Yeah (0:31:38) Al: There’s one knockout tour that I’m struggling on just now where I sometimes get knocked (0:31:42) Al: out of the third gate, which is very frustrating, but most of them, it’s like, if you get past (0:31:47) Al: that first gate, unless you mock up, you probably can do it reasonably easy, but getting past (0:31:52) Al: that first gate can be difficult. (0:31:55) Al: There’s been multiple times where I’ve gotten first on the first seven gates, and then coming (0:32:00) Al: forth. (0:32:01) Al: And it is so frustrating because like in a grand prix, if you could, I know, but in like (0:32:02) Kev: I mean that’s Mario Kart. Winning is losing. (0:32:06) Al: a grand prix, if you come, if you come first, first, first, fourth, you would get one star, (0:32:12) Al: go you’d win and get a one star. (0:32:14) Al: is if you come first, first, first, first, first, first, (0:32:17) Al: you come fourth. So it’s like, like, I understand that. That’s the point of the race. It just (0:32:24) Kev: - Yep. (0:32:24) Al: makes it really, and it like, it doesn’t really matter because I’m going to play it until I get (0:32:27) Al: three stars, right? But it’s just a little bit frustrating to be like, I was first every time (0:32:32) Al: and then I got knocked. I got hit by just too many shells and now I’m done. What I do really like is, (0:32:38) Kev: Yep (0:32:39) Al: I don’t know if there’s no rubber banding, but there definitely seems to be less rubber banding (0:32:43) Kev: Well that I mean, I think that’s kind of the (0:32:43) Al: in the knockout tour. (0:32:48) Kev: Why it works so well because you’re gonna have less people that you can’t rubber band if there’s only you know (0:32:53) Kev: Now half the contestants or whatever. All right, like instead of rubber band (0:32:55) Al: Well, it’s not, it’s not, yeah, I mean, right from the start though, like if you get out (0:32:59) Al: ahead of the pack really early, you can make a really big lead, which is important to be (0:33:06) Al: able to actually, you know, because you’re going to get hit, right? You can’t keep getting (0:33:09) Kev: Mm hmm. We’re right, right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. (0:33:10) Al: in horns to not get hit by blue, blue shells, and you can’t get enough stuff. As soon as (0:33:16) Al: someone has like three red shells, you’re dead, right? You can’t protect from that unless (0:33:21) Al: you like get hit by the second one just before you go through another. (0:33:25) Al: So you’re going to get hit, and so you need that good distance to make sure that you (0:33:29) Kev: Yep. Yep. (0:33:35) Kev: Yeah. Mm hmm. (0:33:36) Al: have enough time. But on the other hand, it means that if someone gets ahead quickly, (0:33:40) Kev: Yep. (0:33:41) Al: it’s really hard to catch up with them. (0:33:43) Kev: It is. Um. (0:33:45) Al: Whereas in our Grand Prix, you can like hang back for like two laps and then just smoke everyone. (0:33:50) Kev: I think Bullet Bill or Golden Shroom. (0:33:51) Al: You can’t do that. You cannot do that in a knockout tour. (0:33:54) Kev: Yeah. Yep. Absolutely. (0:33:56) Al: But it’s fun. I’m enjoying it. I’m definitely enjoying it. (0:33:58) Kev: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. (0:34:00) Al: It definitely feels like what they wanted to do with the Grand Prix, but they didn’t. (0:34:03) Kev: Mm hmm. Yeah. (0:34:03) Al: And so I’m more frustrated now that the Grand Prix have these weird in-between bits. (0:34:09) Kev: That’s the thing. They’re not even in between bits. They’re just part of the race. (0:34:13) Al: Yeah. Yeah. (0:34:13) Kev: Like, that’s the weird part, right? Like, they told us they’re in between, but it’s not. (0:34:17) Kev: Um, that’s the weird part. (0:34:18) Al: It just means that the first lap on your next one is on the previous course. (0:34:25) Al: And then the second lap is like half the previous course and half the new course. (0:34:29) Al: And then you get one lap on the course. It’s just such a weird setup. (0:34:32) Kev: Yeah, and it’s it’s not there’s nothing inherently wrong with it especially since they designed this whole island it makes sense right but it’s still boggles my mind that they didn’t include the classic grand prive you know three laps around a track. (0:34:46) Al: Yeah, that’s the thing. That’s the thing. Anyway, but whatever. I’m still really loving the game. (0:34:48) Kev: Um, yeah. (0:34:50) Kev: Yeah. (0:34:53) Al: It is good fun. I like a lot of the changes they made. It feels, well, that’s the thing. (0:34:54) Kev: Yeah, it’s good it’s it’s Mario Kart shocker. (0:34:58) Al: It feels good because I don’t, there’s not a huge number of kart racers that feel good to race for (0:35:02) Al: me. And that’s a really important thing about Mario Kart. And they’ve, they’ve, they’ve, they (0:35:03) Kev: Mm-hmm (0:35:06) Kev: Yep, that is true (0:35:09) Al: hit it out of the park with that. Like all the changes they made make it feel smoother and feel (0:35:14) Al: nicer, like, you know, what I was talking to you about, like, when (0:35:16) Kev: Yeah (0:35:16) Al: you get hit by cars and stuff like that, it just all feels more fun. (0:35:18) Kev: Yeah (0:35:19) Kev: You’re right (0:35:21) Kev: You’re right. Yeah, I agree. It is it like just (0:35:25) Kev: Mechanically does feel more fluid because you’re right like in the old days when you got hit that was just like a hard stop (0:35:30) Al: Yeah, spin around three times and come to a halt. (0:35:31) Kev: Here you kind of tumble forward a little (0:35:34) Kev: Yeah (0:35:36) Kev: Yeah, I agree. Um, I mean, yeah overall like I agree. It’s it’s it’s good (0:35:42) Kev: I wish we I think it just needs more (0:35:46) Kev: We don’t actually it has a battle mime in try that but we need the three lap (0:35:52) Kev: Classy Grand Prix and we need more to actually do with free range. The free range is kind of nothing right now (0:36:00) Al: Yeah, it’ll be interesting to see if they add more in the future. (0:36:00) Kev: Like you (0:36:02) Kev: Yeah (0:36:03) Al: I don’t know. (0:36:04) Al: We’ll see. (0:36:04) Al: I’m not, I’m not, I’m not like, Oh, they must do it. (0:36:05) Kev: And I (0:36:07) Al: Or it would be a bad game. (0:36:08) Al: Like if it never changes again, I don’t think it’s not worth the money, (0:36:09) Kev: Yeah, oh yeah for sure oh (0:36:12) Al: but I would also like more please. (0:36:13) Kev: Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it’s (0:36:16) Kev: not a bad game. I need to stress that just, there’s, there’s just potential, you can feel it, (0:36:21) Kev: but you can feel what you can do, right? Like, can you imagine a, you know, I feel like there should (0:36:27) Kev: be modes that use the free range, like, sort of like tag, basically, right? Or, or, you know, (0:36:32) Al: Mmm, yeah, yeah, yeah. (0:36:34) Kev: something like that, something to chase, chase a rabbit or whatever, stuff like that, to give you (0:36:39) Kev: an excuse to run around the island, not just on the tracks. And, you know, that’s kind of what they (0:36:42) Al: Do you know what I hope they do? I really hope that they charged as much as they charged for (0:36:43) Kev: want. You tell. (0:36:48) Al: this game because they intend on not doing paid DLC but what they would do in paid DLC they’re (0:36:56) Al: adding industry updates. That would be really nice and it’s like yeah because then they get (0:36:59) Kev: that would be nice (0:37:01) Kev: I can see it going either way (0:37:03) Al: more money overall if they do that than if they charge less money and then charge the DLC because (0:37:07) Al: not everyone’s going to buy the DLC. But it (0:37:12) Al: would I think it would lead a lot of people to be less frustrated because I think if they add (0:37:17) Al: if they do a DLC and they charge for it people are gonna be like even more money you want even (0:37:18) Kev: Mm-hmm. (0:37:21) Kev: Yeah. (0:37:22) Al: more of my money and I think that would be not great and if they added more as free updates I (0:37:27) Kev: Yeah. (0:37:28) Al: think people would go oh okay uh there’ll be people who like this should have been in the beginning (0:37:30) Kev: What? (0:37:33) Al: but I think those people are stupid and that’s not how games work anymore deal with it it’s like (0:37:35) Kev: Yeah. (0:37:38) Kev: Yeah! (0:37:39) Al: it’s like the people who, it’s like the people who talk about (0:37:42) Al: er, so it’s one thing talking about Pokemon Scarlet and Violet and saying this is how the (0:37:46) Kev: Yeah, the game should have worked (0:37:46) Al: games always should have been, right? Like I’m putting that to the side. I’m not, I’m not talking (0:37:50) Al: about those, but I’ve seen people, I have heard people say this is what Breath of the Wild should (0:37:55) Al: have been with the Switch 2 update. And I’m like, no, it’s not. That is, that is an eight year old (0:37:58) Kev: what those people aren’t saying (0:38:02) Al: game. You cannot possibly believe that you think this game should have looked like this eight years (0:38:08) Al: ago. When this game came out, people adored how it (0:38:12) Al: looked amazing. The Switch, it still does. Even if you don’t have the update, it still (0:38:14) Kev: It still does shock her. (0:38:18) Al: looks amazing. It just looks even better if you have the update. It’s absolutely bizarre (0:38:22) Kev: Yeah, eggs (0:38:24) Al: that people are like, “This sort of shows.” But shut up. That is not how this works. That (0:38:28) Kev: Sheets oh (0:38:30) Al: is not how this works. (0:38:30) Kev: That’s insanity (0:38:33) Kev: Well, you know, okay on the topic on the topic of the DLC is it’s interesting because I think if they and I do think they’re (0:38:42) Kev: Gonna support the game because as you said, that’s just how (0:38:45) Kev: Games are now. Um, I think there there has to be free (0:38:52) Kev: because you know (0:38:53) Kev: He they’ve they’ve kind of put them corner themselves because in previous Mario Kart’s DLC is very or you know (0:39:00) Kev: It’s obvious what you do. You add more tricks, right? Here’s your next cup. Here’s you know, daddy out of here’s (0:39:05) Kev: Four cups buy them for ten bucks or whatever here. You can’t do that at least not had a (0:39:10) Kev: that easily right because you (0:39:13) Kev: They’re not gonna jam a new section of the island and gate it off with the DLC (0:39:14) Al: Oh, yeah, good point. (0:39:17) Al: That’s a good point. (0:39:19) Al: We’re going to need another island or the island get expanded or something like that. (0:39:19) Kev: right, so (0:39:22) Kev: Yeah, so (0:39:25) Kev: There’s I think there’s a couple I think there’s a couple things one (0:39:25) Al: Hmm. (0:39:28) Kev: I think we’re gonna see free modes like we’re talking about right like I don’t know what but they’re gonna I think they’re (0:39:31) Al: Yeah. (0:39:32) Kev: Gonna use more of the island because they have the island that would that’s obvious use more use it more, right? (0:39:37) Kev: There might be you know, maybe they will introduce three lap mode and then they can sell DLC tracks (0:39:43) Kev: Just you know your classic. Okay, here’s four tracks (0:39:44) Al: Yeah, so you know what, you’ve made me come to the conclusion. (0:39:49) Al: I think what’s going to happen is there will be those feature updates will be free (0:39:52) Kev: You (0:39:55) Al: and then new tracks will probably be paid. (0:39:55) Kev: Yeah (0:39:58) Al: I suspect that’s what’s going to happen. (0:39:58) Kev: That’s that is what I also suspect I do think yeah, yep, that’s (0:40:01) Al: That is a good point. (0:40:03) Al: Because then they can charge for like a whole other island, right? (0:40:07) Kev: Yep or just tracks if they want to do you know if they go back to three laps, but yeah or just another island yeah (0:40:09) Al: I can’t see. I can’t. I can’t see. (0:40:14) Al: I’m doing that going like the whole point is this America world also here are some (0:40:18) Al: tracks you can only do in if you if you choose them in the menu. (0:40:20) Kev: Yeah, that’s a good point. I guess (0:40:23) Al: Like that feels weird and you go into free room in free room free room and you (0:40:27) Al: choose which island you want to free room on or there’s a bridge between the two (0:40:29) Kev: Yeah (0:40:31) Al: islands or something like that. (0:40:33) Kev: Okay, the bridge might work yeah, but you raise a good point it could be a whole new island I I can see that (0:40:38) Kev: But but overall like yeah, I think we’re in agreement. There’s gonna be some sort of features modes (0:40:43) Kev: Whatever they’re gonna end those are gonna be free. Absolutely (0:40:46) Al: Also, let us free Rome on Rainbow Road, please, and thank you. (0:40:49) Kev: That it (0:40:51) Kev: I (0:40:52) Al: Maybe Rainbow Road is the bridge. (0:40:55) Kev: Hear people talk about that because of course, but there’s a part where you’re literally crashing there (0:40:58) Al: Yeah, I know. (0:41:03) Kev: How you gonna free-rope that (0:41:05) Al: But, I mean, if you fall off, you go back. (0:41:09) Kev: You just okay, all right (0:41:09) Al: You have to go back to the start of it. (0:41:10) Al: There you go. (0:41:12) Al: I can see why it would be annoying, and I know why they haven’t done it, but that doesn’t (0:41:15) Kev: Yeah, okay (0:41:15) Al: mean I don’t want to do it. (0:41:18) Kev: You know (0:41:20) Kev: On the rainbow road like on this in this one (0:41:23) Kev: I there’s points where I think it’s the absolute best rainbow road they’ve ever done and there’s points where it’s the worst one (0:41:32) Kev: Like I think the lot of it is great. It’s fantastic. It’s it’s a it’s a real spectacle this one (0:41:38) Kev: But then there’s points where you’re not actually on the rainbow road. There’s bits where you dip on water and other weird stuff (0:41:45) Kev: I don’t like that, but but that just me (0:41:48) Al: I haven’t done it enough to have a full opinion because I actually got (0:41:53) Al: that Grand Prix I got in on my second try. I got three stars. So I was like, “Oh, oh well.” (0:41:58) Kev: No dang, look at you hotshot. (0:42:01) Al: So it’s the only one. Other ones took me many, many, many more tries. But yeah, (0:42:05) Al: that one I was like, “Oh my word, I just got it in the second try. That’s wild.” (0:42:09) Kev: Nice. (0:42:10) Al: Because I actually, the first time I did it, I got 1-1-4-1. And so I was like, “Oh no, (0:42:15) Kev: Oh, dang. (0:42:17) Al: If I get– I think I can– (0:42:18) Al: do this, and then I managed to get it the second time. (0:42:20) Al: It was very satisfying, but– (0:42:21) Al: So I need to go back and do it some more. (0:42:23) Al: I don’t think I’ll be getting a second time in the– (0:42:26) Al: is there a knockout tour with Rainbow Road? (0:42:28) Kev: I don’t remember off the I don’t think there is now I’m guessing there isn’t (0:42:32) Al: Yeah, OK. (0:42:34) Al: So I’ll need to go back and try it, just– (0:42:37) Al: either with the Grand Prix or just on its own. (0:42:38) Kev: Yeah, I guess nothing else from your week you want to talk about (0:42:39) Al: All right, should we talk about some “Cottagecore” games? (0:42:43) Al: 40 minutes in. (0:42:45) Al: We’ve got some news. (0:42:47) Al: So first of all, Lens Island. (0:42:48) Al: 1.0 is now out, I believe, I think you talked about it with Cody in the last episode, so we (0:42:52) Kev: We did (0:42:53) Al: don’t need to go over much, but it’s now out! Huzzah! They also di

Bonjour à toutes et tous ! Voici l'épisode #474 de Geekorama. Cette semaine, Ikson nous parle de sa découverte et du plaisir qu'il a pris en jouant à un Rogue Like de haute voltige. De la qualité, du contenu, des mécaniques intéréssantes, un Banger ! Octokom s'étant planté et ayant joué à un jeu déjà fait par Ikson, cette semaine il revient sur ses aventures Retro Gaming. Addycyclette nous offre un point culture sur le MSX, une aventure informatique fabuleuse, méconnue de l'occident. Une bonne écoute.

Monster Train 2 ist es gelungen, die guten Seiten des ersten Teils beizubehalten und mit neuen Inhalten zu füttern. Diesmal fahren wir nicht durch die Hölle und bekämpfen Engel, sondern wir haben uns mit den Engeln verbündet, um Titanen abzuwehren, welche den Himmel übernommen haben. Das Spielsystem ist gleich geblieben, wir fahren über verschiedene Wege über die Karte und müssen zwischendurch kämpfen. Dabei ist unser Areal in drei Stockwerke aufgeteilt, welche wir einzeln verteidigen müssen mit Karten. Diese Karten enthalten Einheiten, Zauber oder auch neu Ausrüstungs- oder Raumverstärkungskarten.Im unteren Stockwerk spawnen dann Gegner und kämpfen sich nach oben zu unserem Feuer, wenn dieses zerstört ist, so endet unsere Fahrt und der Durchlauf und wir müssen von vorne starten. Das besondere Roguelike-Deckbuilding-Spielsystem, welches bereits in Teil 1 bahnbrechend war, bleibt hier erhalten. Weiter neu sind die unterschiedlichen Feuer, welche wir zu Beginn wählen können und die Ausrüstungskarten. Ich bin sehr zufrieden, denn Teil 1 war bereits unfassbar toll.

Dat ain't Falco! This week we wavedash into Spiritfall: the platformer beat-em-up with strong influence from the Super Smash Brothers series as well as Hades. The Blight has taken over the lands and your mysterious animal gods have tasked you, the Omenforged, to beat them back. With an array of weapons ranging from an axe-hammer to a scythe that transforms into a baseball bat, join us as we down-smash, L-cancel, and neutral-air our way across deserts, jungles, frozen wastelands, and all the way up to the source of the Blight itself! No Johns in this episode, we promise. Custom RSS Apple Podcasts Spotify YouTube Music Transcript 2:04 - game stats 3:16 - one sentence description 5:57 Story Overview 8:58 Controls & Tutorial Complexity 12:46 Smash Bros Experience & Wave Dashing 18:10 Combat Mechanics & Arena Types 25:44 Generic Terminology & Art Style 32:38 Comparison to Dead Cells & Boss Fights 39:31 Map Navigation & Decision Making 50:39 Story Completion & Meta Progression 57:28 Hypothetical Smash Bros Crossover 1:22:39 - rankings and final thoughts 1:34:52 - similar games Next episode: Vellum (for real this time) Contact us at grogpodzone@gmail.com! https://grogpod.zone Intro music: Charles Mingus - Mood Indigo Outro music: Spiritfall OST - The Frigid Veil

Featuring: Michael “Boston” Hannon and Paul “Moonpir” Smith Running Time: 13:05 Music by MusiM: Homepage | Bandcamp Livestream Archive: YouTube On TVGP's We Roguelike It, we start a brand new game with Into the Restless Ruins! Join us as we break down all the genres of the game, struggle with some card problems, figure out our memory issues, upgrade our cards, pick up some secondary weapons, and much more! Become a patron of TVGP for just a few dollars a month at E1M1's Patreon Page! Get *two weeks* early access to this show (among other shows), show notes, uncensored outtakes, and more for just $5/month!

Aaron + Gerry + Guest + Brazilian steakhouse = a very fantastic episode of SuperPod Saga. The boiz are joined by Steve, who also goes by Blink or Blinkoom, to discuss the wildest video game genre fusions! We'll be doing the Dragon Ball Z fusion dance to combine anything with everything to make some sweet, terrifying hybrids. 

Featuring: Michael “Boston” Hannon and Paul “Moonpir” Smith Running Time: 23:24 Music by MusiM: Homepage | Bandcamp Livestream Archive: YouTube The scientists are back on TVGP's We Roguelike It for more ranking! We discuss our final thoughts on Shogun Showdown, we ask our monthly question, and we rank our latest game! Our next game is Into the Restless Ruins! Become a patron of TVGP for just a few dollars a month at E1M1's Patreon Page! Get *two weeks* early access to this show (among other shows), show notes, uncensored outtakes, and more for just $5/month!

Featuring: Michael “Boston” Hannon and Paul “Moonpir” Smith Running Time: 10:45 Music by MusiM: Homepage | Bandcamp Livestream Archive: YouTube In this week's episode of TVGP's We Roguelike It we finish our coverage of Shogun Showdown! Join us as we chat about new characters, overpowered weapons, additional mean days, and much more! Our next game is Into the Restless Ruins! Become a patron of TVGP for just a few dollars a month at E1M1's Patreon Page! Get *two weeks* early access to this show (among other shows), show notes, uncensored outtakes, and more for just $5/month!

This week on NintenDomain, we have less than a week left before the release of the Switch 2 so we are talking about our most anticipated games, Top 10 best roguelikes, how Onimusha 2 plays on Switch 1, and what that cancelled EA Black Panther game was about. Support the show and get bonus content at: www.patreon.com/nintendomainpodcast Music: Intro: Onimusha 2: Gold Mine I Break 1: Street Fighter 6: Taking Aim - Luke's Theme Break 2: Balatro: Main Theme Outro: Street Fighter 6: Spirit of the Flame - Ken's Theme Topic Times: 00:03:00 Got Item: Capcom Fighting Collection 2 Project Justice Power Stone 00:15:08 Onimusha 2  00:25:26 Most Anticipated Switch 2 games 00:53:50 Jereme's Top 10 Roguelikes for Nintendo Switch 1 01:27:22 Weekly Nintendo News 01:36:23 EA Cancelled Black Panther Game Focus Group  

We're hanging out in our cool new mansion this month, as we discuss Blue Prince! A puzzle-roguelike about a weird house and not at all about radical politics. Also, come chill with us at our discord: bit.ly/hoppedupdiscord Hosts: Chris Norris, Mike Parker, Steph Fan, Matt Emery Music by David Beebe

Featuring: Michael “Boston” Hannon and Paul “Moonpir” Smith Running Time: 10:20 Music by MusiM: Homepage | Bandcamp Livestream Archive: YouTube This week on TVGP's We Roguelike It we talk about our third week with Shogun Showdown where we chat about a brand new day, cursed knowledge, so many unlocks, overall difficulty, and so much more! Become a patron of TVGP for just a few dollars a month at E1M1's Patreon Page! Get *two weeks* early access to this show (among other shows), show notes, uncensored outtakes, and more for just $5/month!

Featuring: Michael “Boston” Hannon and Paul “Moonpir” Smith Running Time: 9:37 Music by MusiM: Homepage | Bandcamp Livestream Archive: YouTube In this brand new episode of TVGP's We Roguelike It we chat about pushing not swapping, a statue, dashing backwards, focusing on the basics, and much more! Become a patron of TVGP for just a few dollars a month at E1M1's Patreon Page! Get *two weeks* early access to this show (among other shows), show notes, uncensored outtakes, and more for just $5/month!

Featuring: Michael “Boston” Hannon and Paul “Moonpir” Smith Running Time: 10:53 Music by MusiM: Homepage | Bandcamp Livestream Archive: YouTube This week on TVGP's We Roguelike It we start a brand new game: Shogun Showdown! As we get started on this game we describe the game, talk about Into the Breach, learn some hot strats, and much more! Become a patron of TVGP for just a few dollars a month at E1M1's Patreon Page! Get *two weeks* early access to this show (among other shows), show notes, uncensored outtakes, and more for just $5/month!

Featuring: Michael “Boston” Hannon and Paul “Moonpir” Smith Running Time: 24:12 Music by MusiM: Homepage | Bandcamp Livestream Archive: YouTube We've done the research and we're here to pass judgment in TVGP's We Roguelike It! We figure out our final thoughts on Luck Be a Landlord, figure out if we're going to keep playing it, and put it in our giant list of The Best Roguelikes Of All Time! Our next game is Shogun Showdown! Become a patron of TVGP for just a few dollars a month at E1M1's Patreon Page! Get *two weeks* early access to this show (among other shows), show notes, uncensored outtakes, and more for just $5/month!

Featuring: Michael “Boston” Hannon and Paul “Moonpir” Smith Running Time: 22:15 Music by MusiM: Homepage | Bandcamp Livestream Archive: YouTube This week on TVGP's We Roguelike It we finish our coverage of Luck Be a Landlord by chatting about essences, dopamine, changing game speed, letting go, and much more! Our next game is Shogun Showdown! Become a patron of TVGP for just a few dollars a month at E1M1's Patreon Page! Get *two weeks* early access to this show (among other shows), show notes, uncensored outtakes, and more for just $5/month!

Featuring: Michael “Boston” Hannon and Paul “Moonpir” Smith Running Time: 11:46 Music by MusiM: Homepage | Bandcamp Livestream Archive: YouTube This week on TVGP's We Roguelike It we unlock True Endless mode, chat about new strategies, disabling items, fighting the landlord, old reliable, and much more! Become a patron of TVGP for just a few dollars a month at E1M1's Patreon Page! Get *two weeks* early access to this show (among other shows), show notes, uncensored outtakes, and more for just $5/month!

This week on Arcade, Uno and Chugs talk about Blue Prince, the environmental indie Spilled, and Promise Mascot Agency from the makers of Paradise Killer. Plus, they dig into their time with Dark Souls 2: Crown of the Ivory King, Silent Hill 3, and Ender Magnolia: Bloom in the Mist. Later on, the boys break down the latest gaming news, including all the new features from the Mario Kart World Direct, Bloober Team's next psychological horror Cronos: The New Dawn, Respawn's new tactics-based Star Wars game, the leaked Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion remake, and why Bethesda is selling off 2,000 physical pieces of its Elder Scrolls Online servers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Wishlist Now! Empyreal Steam Page - https://nwzo.io/click/dzexr/ Empyreal PlayStation Store page - https://store.playstation.com/en-gb/concept/10012299 Empyreal Xbox Store Page - https://www.xbox.com/en-GB/games/store/empyreal/9nv4j14zzqqn Go to http://shadyrays.com and use code FUNNY to get 35% off polarized sunglasses. Go to http://factormeals.com/kindafunny50off and use code kindafunny50off to get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box. It's the penultimate episode of the season and Rogue Robbin' is back as a fully fledged new game! Season 3, Episode 11. Enjoy this ad-free version! Thank you for the support! Run of Show - - Start - First Question & Housekeeping - Rogue Robbin' - Power-Up - More Rogue Robbin' - Challenge Room - More Rogue Robbin' - Mini-Boss - Ads - Power-Up - More Rogue Robbin' - Challenge Room - Rogue Robbin' - Final Boss Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Wishlist Now! Empyreal Steam Page - https://nwzo.io/click/dzexr/ Empyreal PlayStation Store page - https://store.playstation.com/en-gb/concept/10012299 Empyreal Xbox Store Page - https://www.xbox.com/en-GB/games/store/empyreal/9nv4j14zzqqn Go to http://shadyrays.com and use code FUNNY to get 35% off polarized sunglasses. Go to http://factormeals.com/kindafunny50off and use code kindafunny50off to get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box. It's the penultimate episode of the season and Rogue Robbin' is back as a fully fledged new game! Season 3, Episode 11. Enjoy this ad-free version! Thank you for the support! Run of Show - - Start - First Question & Housekeeping - Rogue Robbin' - Power-Up - More Rogue Robbin' - Challenge Room - More Rogue Robbin' - Mini-Boss - Ads - Power-Up - More Rogue Robbin' - Challenge Room - Rogue Robbin' - Final Boss Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Wishlist Now! Empyreal Steam Page - https://nwzo.io/click/dzexr/ Empyreal PlayStation Store page - https://store.playstation.com/en-gb/concept/10012299 Empyreal Xbox Store Page - https://www.xbox.com/en-GB/games/store/empyreal/9nv4j14zzqqn Go to http://shadyrays.com and use code FUNNY to get 35% off polarized sunglasses. Go to http://factormeals.com/kindafunny50off and use code kindafunny50off to get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box. It's the penultimate episode of the season and Rogue Robbin' is back as a fully fledged new game! Season 3, Episode 11. Enjoy this ad-free version! Thank you for the support! Run of Show - - Start - First Question & Housekeeping - Rogue Robbin' - Power-Up - More Rogue Robbin' - Challenge Room - More Rogue Robbin' - Mini-Boss - Ads - Power-Up - More Rogue Robbin' - Challenge Room - Rogue Robbin' - Final Boss Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Featuring: Michael “Boston” Hannon and Paul “Moonpir” Smith Running Time: 16:10 Music by MusiM: Homepage | Bandcamp Livestream Archive: YouTube We're back and hitting the slots with TVGP's We Roguelike It! Join us for week two of Luck Be a Landlord, as we chat about new synergies, unlocking new items, an absurd amount of achievements, what synergies we're trying to aim for, and much more! Become a patron of TVGP for just a few dollars a month at E1M1's Patreon Page! Get *two weeks* early access to this show (among other shows), show notes, uncensored outtakes, and more for just $5/month!

Alex and Luke Talk BalatroIn this episode, Alex and Luke go all-in on Balatro, the breakout roguelike deck-builder that's equal parts poker, chaos, and obsession. Developed by LocalThunk and released in early 2024, Balatro blends classic card game mechanics with deck-breaking combos, jokers with wild effects, and a vibe that's one part casino fever dream, one part endless strategy loop.At the time of this recording, Balatro holds a Metacritic score of 90, and according to HowLongToBeat, you can complete the game in 7 hours—but good luck stopping. This game sinks its teeth in fast and doesn't let go.Both Alex and Luke played on their Steam Decks, chasing multipliers, unlocking jokers, and debating the most degenerate combos they could get away with. Join them as they unpack what makes Balatro feel so addicting, how it slots into the growing roguelike canon, and why it's been living rent-free in their brains.This episode is unofficially brought to you in part by Slides.Send us a Text Message! We'll respond on our next episode!Support the show​​Visit us at LowFiveGaming.com.Join the Low Five Discord!Email us at hello@lowfivegaming.com.Theme music is by AJ Norman. Design assets were created by Studio Day Job.Low Five Gaming is a Studio Low Five Production.

Featuring: Michael “Boston” Hannon and Paul “Moonpir” Smith Running Time: 23:41 Music by MusiM: Homepage | Bandcamp Livestream Archive: YouTube It's time to start a brand new game for TVGP's We Roguelike It: Luck Be a Landlord! Join us as we chat about wild synergies, cats and milk, eating the rich (literally?), making rent, and maybe (just maybe) we figure out how to play deckbuilders. Become a patron of TVGP for just a few dollars a month at E1M1's Patreon Page! Get *two weeks* early access to this show (among other shows), show notes, uncensored outtakes, and more for just $5/month!

"It's the kind of thing that makes you glad you stopped and smelled the pine trees along the way, you know?"Rick is joined by Josh (Still Loading Podcast) once again to reach the end of 2019's Outer Wilds. The profundity offered by this game really snuck up on us, and the ending offers a feast of ideas and discussion points with which beautiful conversation can be had. Needless to say, we both love this game. Thank you for sticking around for the full series - please enjoy!Noclip Documentary on The Making of Outer WildsInterview with composer Andrew PrahlowClick on the following to find PPR on the web!PatreonJoin our DiscordBlueskyInstagram TikTokThank you for listening! Want to reach out to PPR? Send your questions, comments, and recommendations to pixelprojectradio@gmail.com! And as ever, any ratings and/or reviews left on your platform of choice are greatly appreciated!

Featuring: Michael “Boston” Hannon and Paul “Moonpir” Smith Running Time: 14:42 Music by MusiM: Homepage | Bandcamp Livestream Archive: YouTube The We Roguelike It scientists are back for more ranking! This time we're talking about Peglin; join us as we share our final thoughts on the game, talk about if we're going to keep playing it, and, most importantly, add it to the infallible list of The Best Roguelikes Of All Time! Our next game is Luck Be a Landlord! Become a patron of TVGP for just a few dollars a month at E1M1's Patreon Page! Get *two weeks* early access to this show (among other shows), show notes, uncensored outtakes, and more for just $5/month!

"The pain of your absence is sharp and haunting, and I would give anything not to know it; anything but never knowing you at all (which would be worse)."The critical analysis of Outer Wilds continues this week as Rick and Josh (Still Loading Podcast) continue through the solar system! In this episode, Giant's Deep, Ember Twin, Brittle Hollow, and the Interloper are explored at length, and insight is gained into the Nomai - how they lived, what they valued, and their untimely fate. This ended up being a terrific discussion that spans not only the game, but how we can extract the lessons into our own lives. Please enjoy!Noclip Documentary on The Making of Outer WildsInterview with composer Andrew PrahlowClick on the following to find PPR on the web!PatreonJoin our DiscordBlueskyInstagram TikTokThank you for listening! Want to reach out to PPR? Send your questions, comments, and recommendations to pixelprojectradio@gmail.com! And as ever, any ratings and/or reviews left on your platform of choice are greatly appreciated!

Featuring: Michael “Boston” Hannon and Paul “Moonpir” Smith Running Time: 1:11 Music by MusiM: Homepage | Bandcamp We're sick this week, so we're taking some extra time to rest up and get ready for some science! We'll see you next week! Become a patron of TVGP for just a few dollars a month at E1M1's Patreon Page! Get *two weeks* early access to this show (among other shows), show notes, uncensored outtakes, and more for just $5/month!

"Seems like only yesterday you joined the space program, and suddenly here you are, leaving on your first solo voyage."This week, Rick is joined by Josh (Still Loading Podcast) to begin a three-part analysis on Outer Wilds, a 2019 adventure game that captivated audiences (and me) with creativity and heart. Taking the role of The Hatchling, players explore a vast - and occasionally hostile - galaxy to gather data on the Nomai, an ancient race that disappeared under unclear circumstances. Mysteries abound, and with themes encompassing existentialism, religion, science, and community, Outer Wilds goes places players may not expect. We're both thrilled to be talking about this game. Please enjoy!Noclip Documentary on The Making of Outer WildsInterview with composer Andrew PrahlowClick on the following to find PPR on the web!PatreonJoin our DiscordBlueskyInstagram TikTokThank you for listening! Want to reach out to PPR? Send your questions, comments, and recommendations to pixelprojectradio@gmail.com! And as ever, any ratings and/or reviews left on your platform of choice are greatly appreciated!

Featuring: Michael “Boston” Hannon and Paul “Moonpir” Smith Running Time: 6:49 Music by MusiM: Homepage | Bandcamp Livestream Archive: YouTube This week on TVGP's We Roguelike It we wrap up our coverage of Peglin by chatting about terrible luck, when Rogulikes get you down, bad bounces, and much more! Become a patron of TVGP for just a few dollars a month at E1M1's Patreon Page! Get *two weeks* early access to this show (among other shows), show notes, uncensored outtakes, and more for just $5/month!

Al and Kelly talk about Grimoire Groves Disclosure: We received a free review code for Grimoire Groves. #gifted Timings 00:00:00: Theme Tune 00:00:30: Intro 00:02:23: What Have We Been Up To 00:12:16: Game News 00:36:28: New Games 00:39:42: Grimoire Groves 01:12:37: Outro Links Harvest Moon Pre-Orders Bugaboo Pocket Release Date Fields of Mistria 2nd Update Go-go Town “Spring Cleaning” Update Sun Haven “Festivals” 2.0 Update Autonomica (Farm Folks) Name Change Coral Island 2025 Roadmap Everdream Village Contact Al on Mastodon: https://mastodon.scot/@TheScotBot Email Us: https://harvestseason.club/contact/ Transcript (0:00:30) Al: Hello, farmers, and welcome to another episode of the Harvest Season. (0:00:34) Al: My name is Al, and we are here today to talk about cottagecore games. (0:00:36) Kelly: And my name is Kelly. (0:00:40) Kelly: Yay. (0:00:41) Al: Welcome back, Kelly. How are you doing? (0:00:44) Kelly: Good. (0:00:44) Kelly: It’s always nice to be back. (0:00:46) Kelly: It’s so funny, because all of my voice recordings are just– (0:00:46) Al: Always nice to have you. (0:00:52) Kelly: oh, it’s like memory lane looking at all the past podcasts. (0:00:56) Al: You were last on talking about fields of mystery, which we might have stuff to talk about with (0:01:00) Kelly: Yes, yes. (0:01:04) Kelly: Yeah, I saw there was a note, but I (0:01:06) Kelly: I haven’t checked it out since we last spoke. (0:01:10) Kelly: Yeah, how have you been? (0:01:10) Al: But yeah, your first one of the year you did three last year. (0:01:12) Kelly: Oh, yeah, 2025. (0:01:14) Al: Let’s see if we can get you above three this year. (0:01:19) Al: Cool. Well, I have Kelly on this episode because we are going to (0:01:23) Al: talk about grimoire groves, grimoire groves. (0:01:28) Kelly: Yes, it’s like a little tongue twister. (0:01:31) Al: Yes, grimoire groves. (0:01:34) Al: Got to say up front, obviously, we received a free review code (0:01:38) Al: for the game, which actually can. (0:01:40) Al: I don’t know. No, that was a joke. That was a joke. That was a joke. (0:02:00) Kelly: No, no, no, no, I would absolutely pay money for this game. (0:02:11) Al: Spoiler alert. Yeah, so we’re going to talk about that game later in the episode. Before (0:02:15) Kelly: And thank you, Al, for that. (0:02:22) Al: that, we’ve obviously got a bunch of news, but first of all, Kelly, what have you been (0:02:26) Kelly: I have been up to taking care of a stray cat and then just trying to start (0:02:33) Kelly: planning out stuff for the spring for the yard. (0:02:36) Al: Oh, yes. Is it garden talking time? What’s your plans for this year? (0:02:39) Kelly: Yeah, but also we’re trying to… I don’t know yet. I’m still waiting but I have to (0:02:47) Kelly: clean up the yard because I prioritized weeding other areas of the house last (0:02:51) Kelly: fall instead of the garden, so it’s still kind of overgrown. (0:02:56) Kelly: I’m trying to get dirt so I can level out the borders of the (0:02:59) Kelly: yard and then tarp them. So exciting. And besides that, I’ve (0:03:08) Kelly: been playing Infinity Nikki for three solid months. This broke (0:03:11) Kelly: my streak, actually. I still play the game every day, so it (0:03:12) Al: No, I haven’t played it (0:03:17) Kelly: didn’t actually break my streak. I just was the only game I was (0:03:19) Kelly: playing for three months. (0:03:22) Al: Fair enough. I haven’t played Infinity Nakey. I’m pretty sure that Dalin plays it as well. (0:03:29) Al: I think we’ve talked about it before, but if you’ve been playing it for three months (0:03:34) Al: straight, I guess you’ve been enjoying it then. (0:03:36) Kelly: - Yes, yes, I think there were definitely moments, (0:03:39) Al: This is the dress-up game, right? Yeah. (0:03:41) Kelly: yes, there were definitely moments where I was playing it (0:03:43) Kelly: ‘cause I just was like, I don’t really have anything else (0:03:45) Kelly: I’m trying to play at the moment, (0:03:48) Kelly: but there is a lot of content and it looks really nice (0:03:51) Kelly: and it’s just like fun to run around the open world (0:03:53) Kelly: and like collect your stuff. (0:03:55) Kelly: It’s just a collecting game. (0:03:56) Al: Yeah. Look, you’re talking to a Pokemon player, right? Like, I know what collecting is like, (0:04:01) Kelly: Mm-hmm. (0:04:03) Al: I know the feeling. I think it’s a unique part of it, is the fact that it’s a gacha (0:04:10) Al: collecting game, but with outfits, I think is fun. (0:04:12) Kelly: Mm-hmm. (0:04:14) Kelly: Yes. (0:04:15) Kelly: And unfortunately, there are some things (0:04:19) Kelly: that you cannot beat with essentially not doing the gotcha, (0:04:22) Kelly: but you don’t have to do everything. (0:04:24) Kelly: It’s not going to stop your story progression. (0:04:27) Kelly: You’re just not going to get bonuses. (0:04:30) Al: Right. They’ve got to have a reason for you to pay money, right? (0:04:30) Kelly: You’re just not going to get the coolest outfit. (0:04:33) Kelly: Did I– absolutely. (0:04:36) Kelly: And did I spend some money to get a frog outfit? (0:04:40) Kelly: Yes, but it was a surprise. (0:04:42) Kelly: There was a dog outfit and I needed it. (0:04:44) Kelly: But also like the game is free also, so. (0:04:47) Al: Yes. And, well, yes, exactly. Tell me that three years ago. The thing about these three games is, (0:04:48) Kelly: You just have to you have to restrain yourself. (0:04:57) Al: yeah, you’ve got to make sure that you’re not going over the top, but you’ve also got to think (0:05:00) Al: about how much time and fun you’ve gotten out of games. Like, you know, if I think about Pokemon Go, (0:05:04) Kelly: Mm-hmm. (0:05:07) Al: I have obviously, I’ve definitely put too much money into that. But also when I think about the (0:05:07) Kelly: Ah, yes. (0:05:11) Al: amount of time that I spend in that game. Like, I spend hours every single day. (0:05:16) Kelly: Oh, I was Pokemon go is probably my highest. Yeah (0:05:17) Al: For eight, for nine years now. (0:05:22) Kelly: Like I don’t and I I I go back and forth on playing it but that game has (0:05:27) Kelly: That’s my most played game because of that (0:05:28) Al: Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, ever. Yeah, that don’t think is… (0:05:31) Kelly: Like it beat my Sims like legacy of like, you know playing that from like 10 years old or whatever (0:05:38) Al: I think the thing is that because it’s so accessible, but also because you’re playing (0:05:41) Kelly: It’s so accessible it’s in your hand (0:05:45) Al: it for so many years, even if you only played half an hour every day after 10 years, which (0:05:47) Kelly: Mm-hmm. Yes, exactly (0:05:54) Al: in a year and a bit, it’ll be 10 years since the game came out, if you’ve only played half (0:05:58) Kelly: That’s disgusting, don’t say that. (0:06:05) Al: an error, but you do it every single day for the for the for. (0:06:08) Al: 10 years, that is nearly 2000 hours. That’s the thing, the (0:06:12) Kelly: that’s insane but yeah no it’s it’s true yeah exactly but yeah it’s so it’s like (0:06:15) Al: numbers just add up so fast. And let me tell you, it’s way more (0:06:20) Al: than half an hour I’ve played every single day. (0:06:20) Kelly: okay yeah yeah and it’s like okay so like if I put some money in it every (0:06:26) Kelly: year like I’m getting so much out of it you know and I played love Nikki which (0:06:31) Kelly: is what is the phone game before like there’s been other phone games before (0:06:36) Kelly: this too but that was the one I got really into which is different like (0:06:40) Kelly: setup wise, but essentially it’s just an outfit game again. (0:06:42) Kelly: Gotcha outfit game and again, it’s like okay. I played that game for like four years. I put some money into it (0:06:49) Kelly: But I played it a lot like I spent so much time playing that game (0:06:52) Al: Yeah, as long as you can afford what you’re doing, that’s the important thing. (0:06:56) Kelly: Exactly, but yeah, what have you been up to? (0:07:00) Al: I have been procrastinating playing Grimoire Crows. (0:07:06) Al: Every so often, I end up in this situation where I’m like, this is a game that I need to play, (0:07:11) Al: and then I end up not playing it very much. And instead of procrastinating by playing other games, (0:07:17) Al: I procrastinate by doing other things instead. So I’ve not really done much this week at all. (0:07:20) Kelly: Yep. (0:07:23) Al: I have started a shiny hunt for Regigigas in Pokémon Sword. I’m at the point where I need to (0:07:38) Al: actually get through the rest of the legendaries. I don’t have a shiny if I want to finish my (0:07:43) Al: living decks, because I’m 110 left. And so I’m going to run out of non-legendaries very soon. (0:07:48) Kelly: Oh, my god. (0:07:52) Al: And so I thought, let’s start this one, because I can’t just… Yeah, exactly. (0:07:55) Kelly: Start breaking it up. (0:07:58) Kelly: Yeah, no, I understand that. (0:08:00) Kelly: I used to do that with Angry Birds. (0:08:04) Al: You’re going to have to explain that. (0:08:10) Kelly: Since Angry Birds came out, any phone that I get, (0:08:13) Kelly: I download Angry Birds and beat the whole game again. (0:08:15) Al: You replay it all again, oh my word! (0:08:16) Kelly: 3 stars? (0:08:18) Kelly: I’m less about it now, I just kinda go back to it when I’m bored. So like, you know, I have my phone for a while, eventually I get all the stars. But there’s certain levels that even after all these years of replaying it, they’re just difficult. And they piss me off. So I’ll break it down. (0:08:25) Al: look it’s fun it’s a fun game but I can’t say i’ve played it in the last 15 years (0:08:48) Kelly: I always break those up when I go back to get the 3 stars for them. So it’s the same thing where it’s like, I don’t want to do the really tough thing repeatedly and then just get frustrated at the game. Like it’s boring, you know? It gets boring. (0:08:56) Al: Fair enough. My 15 years might have been a bit of an exaggeration, however it is only (0:09:04) Al: 15 years since it’s 15 years since the first game came out. I can’t believe it’s been 15 years, (0:09:06) Kelly: Yes, yes, because I played it on the first iPhone I had, or an only iPhone. (0:09:09) Al: that’s wild. It was it was definitely it was one of the it was one of the early games that made you (0:09:20) Al: go ’this is why I want a touchscreen’ and it was that and (0:09:22) Kelly: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. (0:09:26) Al: Fruit Ninja and Digital Jump. Those were like the three that made me realize I get it, (0:09:27) Kelly: Yes, I never got into Fruit Ninja. (0:09:36) Al: I would like a touchscreen please. (0:09:38) Kelly: Yep. Well, that was the thrill of like, you know, with the iPhone too. It was like, oh, this is so sick. I can, I can play these fun games. I can do this for a peggle. (0:09:48) Kelly: I played peggle so much on that phone. It’s pinball. (0:09:52) Al: Okay, no, I didn’t. I didn’t play that one. I don’t think I need more games. (0:09:54) Kelly: Oh, you should look it up. I think you like peggle. (0:10:03) Al: Yeah, fun. All right. I think that’s all. Is that all I’ve got to talk about? I’m shiny (0:10:09) Al: hunting. I think so. I played… You were the one that you were you were spying me on steam. (0:10:16) Al: Was it like half an hour I played of Grimoire Groves or something? (0:10:16) Kelly: Oh, yeah, I was watching you all week because every time I’d sign on to the Steam, it’s (0:10:22) Kelly: like you’re the only person I know that has the game also. (0:10:22) Al: Oh, I’ve got an hour and 20 minutes apparently on steam there. Okay. That was yesterday. (0:10:26) Kelly: So for like the whole week, it was like 12 minutes playing. (0:10:30) Kelly: Yes, now, I see it now, but I was like watching it. (0:10:37) Kelly: I know because like two days ago, I was like, he’s still, he is cutting it close. (0:10:43) Al: Look, well, the problem was you messaged me and you said, “I’m loving this game. I’m (0:10:48) Al: played it so much.” And I’m like, “Okay, cool. I don’t need to then.” (0:10:52) Al: Yeah. No, I legitimately think that’s all I’ve (0:10:53) Kelly: Also, I’m the problem. (0:11:02) Al: done this week is like shiny hunting and Pokémon Go. (0:11:05) Kelly: sometimes it’s like you just get that mental block where you just can’t (0:11:08) Al: Yeah. Oh, I did do… I know. I did do the the Scarlet and Violet Quack Quack Quack Quaville (0:11:09) Kelly: even you’re just like oh I gotta I gotta do this but I can’t (0:11:20) Al: raids. I don’t think I’ve ever figured out how to say the name of that. (0:11:21) Kelly: What? What is that? I actually did not play Scarlet and Violet. (0:11:22) Al: Pokémon. Did you not? Um, it’s the, uh, it’s based on like carnival dancers. Uh, let me send you. (0:11:36) Kelly: Okay (0:11:38) Kelly: But like what is it you do the dancing like you (0:11:40) Al: It’s a Pokémon. Oh, no, no, just like a raid, like a normal Pokémon raid. (0:11:45) Kelly: Oh, but it’s like dressed up like a carnival dancer (0:11:49) Al: No, no, clearly you completely misunderstood this. This is just a Pokémon. (0:11:51) Kelly: Okay (0:11:52) Al: A Pokémon that is based on a carnival dancer. That’s the Pokémon, (0:11:57) Kelly: Oh, but that’s what you’re waiting for (0:11:57) Al: but they’ve done, there’s a raid to defeat it and capture it, yes. (0:12:01) Kelly: Okay, okay, I’m sorry. I thought this was like a costume Pokemon. You know what I mean? (0:12:05) Al: Oh, no, it’s not. They’ve not done that in the main games yet. Um, yeah, that’s it. (0:12:06) Kelly: Okay (0:12:12) Al: That’s the entirety of that. It was a raid. I did it. There we go. Done. Uh, (0:12:17) Al: should we talk about some news? Because the section is being a little bit of a disaster. (0:12:21) Al: Um… (0:12:23) Al: So, first up, the moment you’ve all been waiting for, we have some news on Harvest Moon, (0:12:30) Al: The Lost Valley, and Skytree Village, the ports or remasters, however they want to call them, (0:12:38) Al: for Switch, which for some reason they’ve decided to do, is up for pre-order now. (0:12:44) Al: It is $40 for the two of them, which still feels like too much, but (0:12:51) Al: I feel like it says a lot. (0:12:52) Al: When they’re selling two full games that they originally sold individually on separate consoles, (0:12:59) Al: and they’ve ported them both to the Switch, and they’re selling them both together for $40. (0:13:03) Al: That shows you how much people definitely want to buy these games. (0:13:07) Kelly: Yeah, cuz a lot of these remakes are like still a full 60 dollars alone. Yeah (0:13:11) Al: Exactly. The good ones are. (0:13:15) Al: So it’s coming out in June. Previously, we just knew it was coming out in the summer. (0:13:19) Al: We don’t have an exact date as far as I can see, just says June. (0:13:23) Al: And if you pre-order it now, you get a free acrylic standee (0:13:27) Al: with some of the worst art I’ve seen for a Harvestmen game ever. (0:13:31) Kelly: I can tell you really like this one. (0:13:33) Al: I haven’t even played these games, but I know for a fact they’re bad (0:13:36) Al: because I talked to Rachelle about them and they did not like them and yeah. (0:13:39) Kelly: I can never remember which ones are bad but the art for this one does not look good. (0:13:47) Al: These were I think the first two they did after the split between Harvestmen and (0:13:53) Al: so these were the first ones that weren’t by the original team. (0:13:56) Al: They were by Natsume and let’s just say they hadn’t made any games before and you can tell. (0:14:08) Al: I do, I will, I’m so strongly of the opinion that I think that people sometimes are judging (0:14:17) Al: Harvestmen too harshly purely because they’re angry that they kept the name and didn’t give (0:14:23) Al: back but that’s how these things work and I’m sorry you dislike that but I think if you actually (0:14:29) Al: played some of the newer games they’re not as bad as you think but these ones I’m pretty sure are. (0:14:37) Kelly: - Fair enough, I think that’s a fair point. (0:14:40) Al: The way I described it in the last episode I did with Micah is (0:14:43) Al: they are so close to having a good game. (0:14:47) Kelly: Oh, with the new ones. (0:14:48) Al: Yeah, they’re so close. So close. (0:14:51) Kelly: Maybe next– maybe next game, they’ll hit it. (0:14:52) Al: what we said for three games now. Each game they do is better than the last. Yes, but (0:15:00) Kelly: OK, so they’re growing slowly. (0:15:02) Al: they do still make some bizarre decisions in those games. They’ve also released a whole (0:15:07) Al: bunch of screenshots. And yeah, I mean, they basically look like the original games did, (0:15:13) Al: but with, I guess, more pixels, but not more pixels on the actual models, just more pixels. (0:15:20) Al: So it’s like– (0:15:20) Kelly: No, they look like knees, but like with a little bit better quality. (0:15:22) Al: Yeah, yeah, that’s exact. It looks better quality, but not in a good way. (0:15:30) Kelly: No. (0:15:31) Al: It looks like HD kind of, but it’s like you’ve got HD upscaled basically, right? (0:15:39) Al: Like you were recording on a really old camera and you’ve upscaled it to HD, (0:15:43) Al: so it’s like everything is shiny and lots of pixels, but it still doesn’t look good. (0:15:52) Kelly: - Yeah, no, it’s not right. (0:15:53) Al: These were a DS and a 3DS game, I think, originally, so they have had to merge the two screens. (0:16:02) Al: However, I think the bottom screen was mostly just like for the map, (0:16:06) Al: and so they now have a mini map on the screen, so… (0:16:09) Kelly: Okay, I feel like a lot of games like this have like the map or like controls or something at the bottom (0:16:14) Al: Yeah, yeah, so I guess we’ll see. (0:16:19) Al: I don’t, I’m gonna buy this. (0:16:22) Kelly: I like, did you notice that it’s so you said it’s releasing in June, but then at the top (0:16:23) Al: I’m gonna do my duty for the podcast, you’re welcome. (0:16:33) Kelly: it says ships in April to June. (0:16:36) Al: Yeah, if you scroll down to the product description, it says release date June 2025. (0:16:41) Kelly: interesting so this game is worth that $25 basically (0:16:43) Al: Apparently, the acrylic standee is worth $13. (0:16:48) Al: So yeah, well, I don’t know what to say. You probably shouldn’t buy this. (0:17:02) Al: But I will. Next, we have Bugaboo Pocket. (0:17:07) Al: Have announced that the release date is on the 2nd of April. I don’t know if you’ve (0:17:11) Al: seen this game, Kelly. It’s a bug game. It’s like a bug Pokémon, but like on… (0:17:12) Kelly: I have not. What is this? (0:17:20) Al: How do I describe this? It’s like virtual pets. So like Tamagotchis. (0:17:24) Kelly: Oh, okay, I see it now. Now I got the screen page, but it’s got like way more details. (0:17:30) Al: Yes, yeah, it’s very much like modernized in terms of how you would interact. (0:17:37) Al: Quality of graphics and is much more intense from that sort of aspect of things. (0:17:43) Al: But I think you also can, for lack of a better phrase, because I’m very tired. (0:17:51) Al: It’s the end of the weekend. Do science on them. I don’t know how to describe it. (0:17:57) Kelly: Like, experiments? (0:17:58) Al: No experiment. No, that would be immoral. No, inspect them and look at them. (0:18:06) Kelly: Oh, OK. (0:18:07) Al: There is like if you have… (0:18:09) Kelly: Oh, and pin them. (0:18:10) Kelly: It looks like you can pin them. (0:18:11) Al: Yeah, but those are dead. Like you’re not pinning a live one, right? (0:18:13) Kelly: Yeah, that would be immoral also. (0:18:18) Kelly: I hope so. (0:18:19) Kelly: I’m just looking at pictures. (0:18:22) Al: So yeah, it’s much more involved than a Tamagotchi. (0:18:28) Kelly: The graphics look really cool. (0:18:30) Al: Yeah, Cody is excited to play this. (0:18:33) Kelly: I’m sure that makes sense. (0:18:36) Kelly: This looks really cool, honestly. (0:18:37) Al: Anyway, coming on the 2nd of April. Next, we have the Fields of Mistria 2nd update. (0:18:45) Al: It’s out now, Kelly. Have you played it yet? (0:18:48) Kelly: Not since, uh, November, end of November, since we talked. (0:18:54) Al: Yeah, that was just the first update that was then, so. (0:18:56) Kelly: Yeah, ‘cause I had finished everything that you could possibly do at that point, (0:19:00) Kelly: and I was like, “Okay, I gotta, I don’t wanna kill the game for myself.” (0:19:00) Al: Yep. (0:19:04) Al: We were on the same page at that point, right? Basically, I think we’d both done everything you could do in the game and didn’t want to destroy our enthusiasm for the game. But does that mean you’re definitely not going to get jump into the game with this new update? (0:19:13) Kelly: Mm-hmm. (0:19:20) Kelly: I’m probably going to wait. (0:19:23) Kelly: I mean, I started breeding for different color animals (0:19:27) Kelly: and stuff, like the tears. (0:19:28) Kelly: So I had been failing my time with that, (0:19:30) Kelly: but mostly because I didn’t have a new game. (0:19:34) Kelly: But yeah, I’m going to wait and see. (0:19:35) Kelly: I got games coming out soon. (0:19:37) Kelly: We got “Rethopia.” (0:19:38) Al: Yes, oh, yes, that’s that (0:19:41) Kelly: I got a solid amount of games currently. (0:19:43) Kelly: So I gotta actually, like, focus on them. (0:19:46) Al: That’s fair. We’ve already covered what’s out in this update, so let’s not spend too long on it. (0:19:50) Kelly: Mm-hmm, okay. (0:19:50) Al: Next we have Gogotown. Their next update Spring Cleaning is out now. I presume you haven’t played (0:19:59) Al: this game. It is fun. It definitely feels very polished for the way that I talked about it in (0:20:07) Al: the episode I did on it. It’s very polished what is there, but it feels like it’s a long way to go (0:20:13) Al: to feel complete. (0:20:15) Kelly: Okay, that’s fair. I mean it seems very ambitious looking so hopefully they just get there (0:20:16) Al: Yeah, a number of things in this update, you can now store a tool and a vehicle on (0:20:29) Al: yourself, it says in a patented Townco dimensional pocket. Basically, you had vehicles, but you (0:20:36) Al: had to like park them somewhere. So now you can keep one of them on yourself. So you have (0:20:40) Al: to keep running back to the parking spaces, which is a nice update. There’s also (0:20:46) Al: a Town info app that gives you a bunch of information on the Town. 360 degree camera (0:20:52) Al: rotation, which is good. I like this. Oh yes, what was that? You’ve asked for it. We’ve (0:20:56) Kelly: I like their note on this. (0:21:00) Al: put in an experimental setting for you to rotate the camera 360 degrees. Fair enough. (0:21:05) Kelly: The screenshot is definitely making me dizzy though, looking at it too long. (0:21:07) Al: Yes, you can definitely tell us experimental. There’s some things that move out of view when (0:21:13) Al: when they shouldn’t do and stuff like that. (0:21:17) Al: A work in progress. (0:21:17) Kelly: But I mean like they they they put it out there that it’s experimental so. (0:21:20) Al: Yep, yep, and they’ve also added (0:21:23) Al: infinite seeds for your farming, which I am intrigued by because I thought (0:21:28) Al: when you planted a seed, the plant never never seemed to die. (0:21:33) Al: It just seemed to always grow new stuff. (0:21:35) Al: So you essentially had infinite stuff, right? (0:21:38) Al: Because as soon as you had a seed, you just (0:21:39) Al: planted it and you had that plant forever. (0:21:40) Kelly: Mm-hmm. (0:21:41) Al: But maybe I’m misremembering. (0:21:44) Kelly: Maybe they changed it. (0:21:46) Al: updates as well. But yeah, those are the main ones that I noticed. (0:21:49) Al: Next, we have Sunhaven have released their 2.0 update. (0:21:53) Al: And you’re like, oh, 2.0, that sounds like it might be a big update. (0:21:57) Al: It’s festivals. (0:22:00) Al: It doesn’t particularly feel huge. (0:22:02) Al: I’m intrigued as to why they decided to go for 2.0 at this point. (0:22:06) Al: OK. (0:22:10) Al: It adds a furniture festival, a garden (0:22:12) Al: festival, a pet festival, a mushroom festival, a snow festival. (0:22:16) Al: And a bunch of other (0:22:19) Al: furniture and stuff like that related to that. (0:22:22) Kelly: Okay, interesting how much of the game is actually out? (0:22:26) Al: Well, it’s no longer in early access. (0:22:28) Al: So I feel like I think they might have I feel like they’ve done everything that (0:22:32) Al: they said in the Kickstarter, like it’s the story is done and stuff like that. (0:22:38) Al: When I see people talking in the comments, they’re no longer complaining about things (0:22:43) Al: they’re talking about translations being bad. (0:22:49) Kelly: Yeah, this one’s been on my wish list, (0:22:50) Kelly: so I’ve been just waiting to see. (0:22:54) Al: I think I own it, yes, I do. (0:22:56) Al: I kick-started this one, I just haven’t played it yet. (0:22:59) Al: So this came out initially in 2023. (0:23:03) Al: Or was that, no, that was the 1.0, I think. (0:23:06) Al: Yeah, 2021 is when it first came out. (0:23:08) Al: And this was when I was still well and truly (0:23:11) Al: primarily Switch, but it wasn’t on Switch yet. (0:23:15) Al: And then I got a Steam Deck, (0:23:16) Al: and then suddenly I was very much on the Steam Deck, (0:23:18) Al: except for games that weren’t on the Steam Deck. (0:23:21) Al: but I had kind of really moved the path. (0:23:24) Al: I’m just thinking about this game, because it was, you know, it had been like two years or something since it started. (0:23:32) Al: Sometimes I do think that there is like a time period where if you’re not going to play a game (0:23:36) Al: within that time period, you’re probably never going to get to it. (0:23:38) Kelly: Yeah, no, definitely it definitely gets harder and harder to go back to it (0:23:44) Al: So maybe I’ll get to it one day, who knows, there’s so many games. (0:23:48) Al: Next we have farm folks or, as it is now called, (0:23:54) Al: Autonomica? Good job, going from a game name that was just slightly awkward to say to one that I don’t know how to pronounce. (0:24:02) Al: Autonomica? Auto… Autonomica. (0:24:04) Kelly: Oh, Tom, oh, oh, Tom, I don’t know, I don’t know. (0:24:08) Al: Autonomica. That’s what you were trying to say, wasn’t it? Autonomica. (0:24:13) Kelly: Yeah, yeah, something like that. (0:24:14) Al: No, I don’t think it’s Autonomica. (0:24:18) Kelly: I don’t think it is either, (0:24:19) Kelly: but I was just trying to see if I could say it. (0:24:20) Kelly: And apparently I can’t. (0:24:24) Al: For those who don’t know the story behind this game, it was started as farm folks, and then the company that was making it went bust. (0:24:32) Al: And then another company basically, I don’t know whether they bought the company that went bust or whether they bought the rights to the game and the code and stuff, (0:24:40) Al: but they continued development. So the company that’s making this is not the company that did the Kickstarter for this game. (0:24:46) Al: Although I’m pretty sure I saw somewhere that they are going to honor the Kickstarter, which is always good. (0:24:52) Al: Um, don’t take– (0:24:52) Kelly: nice isn’t there another game with like a similar ish name to this new name but (0:24:54) Al: I’d need to confirm that, but I feel like I saw that somewhere. (0:25:05) Kelly: also like how do you go from farm folks which is like the most generic farm game (0:25:08) Al: Yeah. (0:25:10) Kelly: name I’ve ever heard now which is not saying a lot because a lot of these farm (0:25:14) Kelly: games have a lot of similar names it is but how do you go from that to what do (0:25:16) Al: Naming is hard, all right. (0:25:20) Kelly: What are you calling it? Autonomica? (0:25:22) Kelly: Autonomica. Oh, it’s a musical artist. Yes, I knew I’d seen this name somewhere before. (0:25:24) Al: Autonomica. Autonomica? (0:25:30) Al: Oh. (0:25:36) Al: So they’ve made they have went the new (0:25:38) Al: company that took over the game have basically been moving it in a different direction. (0:25:43) Al: So it’s it is still farming. (0:25:46) Kelly: It looks like Fortnite with Farfian. (0:25:46) Al: It’s not. (0:25:49) Al: Yeah, they’ve never really explained their reasoning, but they’re like, it’s not just farming. (0:25:53) Al: It’s so much more than that. (0:25:55) Al: So therefore we think farm folks is a misleading name and I’m like, OK, but I don’t. (0:25:58) Kelly: Okay. That makes more sense. But I don’t get anything about farming from this name. (0:26:04) Al: No, but you do get the automation part of it, which I think they’re really big enough. (0:26:09) Al: The college so that their new blurb on steam is Autonomica is an open world life simulator (0:26:16) Al: game that seamlessly. Oh, my word, I hate this so much seamlessly merges resource (0:26:22) Al: management and automation with farm building, extensive customization, (0:26:26) Al: PvP slash PvE battles and elusive phantoms. What is this jumble of words? (0:26:34) Al: Play solo or with friends to build your mega farm factory with almost no limits. (0:26:38) Al: It is a farming game. It’s just like a industrial scale farming game. (0:26:44) Al: Right. And I get why they wanted to change. (0:26:48) Al: Why they wanted it to be clear that this was not the same game that they took over. (0:26:52) Al: But also it is farming game. (0:26:57) Al: Like you can’t say it’s not a farming game. It is a farming game. (0:27:01) Al: Build your mega farm factory, they say in the new blurb. (0:27:04) Al: Like I don’t understand the issue with it. (0:27:06) Kelly: All of these screenshots, too, are just like, what is that game? (0:27:09) Al: Yes, Factorio. Yeah. (0:27:11) Kelly: Factorio? (0:27:14) Kelly: It’s like that, but with farming more. (0:27:16) Al: Open world 3D Factorio. (0:27:20) Al: Which I honestly am excited by. I think this game could be really good. (0:27:25) Al: I just don’t understand why they really didn’t like the name and they decided to change. (0:27:29) Al: But I don’t think this is a better name. (0:27:32) Al: That’s all I’m going to say. I get why they didn’t like the old game. (0:27:35) Al: Old name. I’m not sure this is better. (0:27:37) Kelly: Honestly, they can take this if they want to, but I think it should have been (0:27:44) Kelly: auto-pharmica, if anything. (0:27:46) Al: I would, yeah, I would certainly be more better. Yeah, I don’t disagree with you. (0:27:49) Kelly: It would be better than this. (0:27:54) Kelly: I would assume that this is some sort of space or underwater survival game (0:28:02) Al: Oh, interesting. Yeah. Anyway, they changed the name. RIP farm folks. Long live farm folks. (0:28:03) Kelly: just going off the name alone. (0:28:08) Kelly: It’s so weird too, because I don’t even like farm books. (0:28:14) Al: Yeah, yeah. (0:28:18) Kelly: I digress. (0:28:19) Al: Coral Island have announced their 2025 roadmap. They have 1.2 planned to come out in the first (0:28:27) Al: half of the year, bringing multiplayer and revamped romance. (0:28:32) Al: Which I was looking at what they say about the romance. So let’s talk about the multiplayer (0:28:37) Al: first. There’s probably not a huge amount to say. Basically, it looks like it’s stardew (0:28:41) Al: style multiplayer. You’re all multiple people on the farm. Great, fine. I’m sure it will be (0:28:46) Al: great for people who love. I am not particularly interested just because I don’t want to actually (0:28:51) Al: play my games with other people. I like these games because I’m playing them on my own. (0:28:52) Kelly: I have no desire, I have no desire to play these. These types of games are for me to play by myself, so I can be a maniac, like, let me be a psychopath by my- (0:28:59) Al: Exactly. Exactly. (0:29:03) Al: I have tried so many times to play multiplayer Stardew, and I just can’t because I have to be (0:29:08) Kelly: Oh, no. No, no, no. (0:29:10) Al: the one who has this. The problem is, right? You have to organize to play at the same time, (0:29:16) Al: and that is just not fun. Organizing times for these. (0:29:16) Kelly: No, because either you’re micromanaging all of it, too. (0:29:25) Kelly: It’s like, how do you organize the time to play together and also organize how you’re (0:29:30) Kelly: playing together? (0:29:32) Al: Yeah, the best way to do that is just be like, right, you do the farming you do the mine, there you go, go, go do your jobs. (0:29:32) Kelly: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. (0:29:38) Al: And yeah, I don’t, I don’t particularly find it fun, I get why people might. And so if you are excited about Coral Island multiplayer. (0:29:46) Al: There you go, it’s coming. I hope you enjoy it. I’m not going to do this. (0:29:48) Kelly: I think the only multiplayer game I like is Monster Hunter, to be quite honest. (0:29:58) Al: So I was also looking at the romance revamp that they’ve got. (0:30:02) Al: And I think the only difference is, so there’s a bunch of heart events that existed already. (0:30:10) Al: And it looks like you have to see the previous heart events to unlock certain, to unlock (0:30:17) Al: more hearts. (0:30:18) Al: So once you get to five hearts, you have to watch the heart events for them before you (0:30:24) Al: can do heart six to eight. (0:30:26) Al: And then you have to watch another heart event and give a locket. (0:30:32) Al: Before you can start dating and do the next two hearts, which then you have to watch the (0:30:37) Al: other events and propose before you can get married and do the other five. (0:30:43) Al: I do think this is better because what I found when I was doing this, because I got married (0:30:49) Al: in Coral Island, is I had no clue that there were heart events still to do, which is probably (0:30:55) Al: still going to be a problem here, but let’s put that aside for a minute. (0:30:59) Kelly: There’s no like there’s no like heart marker next in like the (0:31:02) Al: So there are hearts, but it’s not like, it’s just like how many hearts you have. (0:31:09) Al: Like there was no like indication that there’s an event you should be doing. (0:31:12) Al: So like I got to 10 hearts and then I went and tried to propose and they were like, oh, (0:31:17) Al: I’m not ready yet. (0:31:18) Al: And I’m like, but this is the point where I meant to be able to propose. (0:31:20) Al: Why can’t I do it? (0:31:22) Al: And I googled and it was like, oh, because you’re missing heart events. (0:31:24) Al: And I hadn’t done any of the heart events. (0:31:27) Al: And I don’t know how it happens in Carta Island, but in Stardew, (0:31:29) Kelly: How– so I was going to say, it’s similarly set up, (0:31:32) Al: I was always finding the heart events. (0:31:37) Kelly: like you just trigger the event when you encounter them (0:31:40) Al: Yes, and there are a few heart events in Stardew that were very niche and you (0:31:41) Kelly: in a certain location. (0:31:46) Al: wouldn’t immediately find, but like by that point, you’re like, oh, (0:31:51) Al: I know that these things are coming, so I should be expecting them. (0:31:53) Al: I hadn’t done a single one in Carta Island. (0:31:56) Al: How had I not triggered any of the heart events? (0:31:59) Kelly: Yeah, that’s crazy. That doesn’t seem like a good sub. (0:32:00) Al: It was very confusing. (0:32:02) Al: And also, I don’t think the heart events are required in Stardew for marriage. (0:32:10) Kelly: I don’t think they are either. I think they’re just, like, for you. (0:32:12) Al: Yes, and you can get extra points by doing them. (0:32:16) Al: And they’re nice, and you want to know about the story because all the characters are good characters. (0:32:16) Kelly: Mm-hmm. (0:32:22) Al: I was going to say great, but no, not all the characters are great. (0:32:22) Kelly: Mm-hmm. (0:32:24) Al: All of them are good characters. (0:32:28) Al: Um, but yeah, I just, it was really, so if they have a. (0:32:32) Al: Way to make it clear. (0:32:34) Al: That you’re now expecting to see events, then that would be good. (0:32:38) Al: Um, I don’t know. (0:32:40) Al: Um, we’ll see, I guess they don’t talk about that. (0:32:44) Al: I don’t think, but it’s interesting restricting it that much. (0:32:48) Al: So you, you have to see the events before you can continue your heart progress. (0:32:53) Al: Uh, I don’t know how I feel about that. (0:32:55) Kelly: Yeah, that seems kind of iffy the way you just described your past experience, so I guess we’ll see. (0:33:00) Al: Aha, the revamped romance system unlocks at heart level two and you’ll see a prompt (0:33:05) Al: in the relationship UI whenever a hangout event is available. (0:33:10) Al: That is good. (0:33:11) Al: It’s now making it clear when you can do something and when there’s something to do. (0:33:15) Al: That is good. (0:33:16) Al: And if you click on them inside the menu and it shows like all the stuff that you’ve done (0:33:22) Al: with them, you know, the stuff you’ve learned that they love and stuff like that, and like (0:33:25) Al: there, the birthday and stuff, it says unlock requirement, see hangout event. (0:33:30) Al: I don’t know what happened to three but anyway, whatever. (0:33:37) Al: I think that means for heart two and for heart four. (0:33:41) Al: That’s what I think it’s talking about. (0:33:43) Al: So they are definitely making it much more visible, that aspect of things. (0:33:47) Al: So that is good. (0:33:48) Al: They’re also adding more heart events for after marriage, which is also good because (0:33:52) Al: one of the things I’ve really complained about Carl Island is that your spouse ends up turning (0:33:55) Al: into a hollow husk after you get married. (0:33:58) Kelly: That’s pretty sad. (0:34:01) Al: - It was so sad. (0:34:02) Al: The minute you got married, (0:34:05) Al: they just stand in your house all day doing nothing. (0:34:07) Kelly: Oh no. (0:34:09) Al: It was the worst. (0:34:09) Al: I’ve taken your life (0:34:11) Al: and you are now just an ornament in my house. (0:34:15) Al: It was so sad. (0:34:16) Al: So hopefully that’s improved a lot with this. (0:34:20) Al: And then the 1.3 update will include your kids growing up. (0:34:27) Kelly: that’s cool that’s what I literally just started like wondering if it’s like generational like do (0:34:27) Al: And it is, I wonder how far it will go. (0:34:30) Al: I don’t know. (0:34:36) Al: I would expect not. (0:34:38) Al: I expect it would just be, oh, they grow up to be a teenager and then they stop sort of thing. (0:34:42) Al: That is my expectation. (0:34:44) Kelly: that makes sense because that’s a big that’s that’s a lot doing (0:34:44) Al: I don’t think they’ll go full hog. (0:34:49) Al: Especially as they could actually make it like real-time in-game, right? (0:34:52) Al: For every year, they are a year older. (0:34:54) Al: And so you would actually have to do 18 in-game years. (0:35:00) Al: Before your child is an adult. (0:35:04) Kelly: - Hmm. (0:35:05) Al: So they could just go, I’m sorry, if you’ve played 18 years in this game, you’ve played too much. (0:35:12) Al: But I mean, I don’t know, maybe it will work. (0:35:14) Al: I mean, I do know that some games where you have kids that grow up, (0:35:18) Al: you then die and you become your kid. (0:35:20) Al: They could do something like that. (0:35:22) Kelly: That’s true, that would be cool. (0:35:23) Al: And then you inherit the farm and, you know, 20% of it is taken in tax. (0:35:31) Al: Yeah, so they’ve not got a huge amount of information in the 1.3. (0:35:35) Al: They also said there’s going to be a Merfolk festival. (0:35:39) Al: But they’ve not got any details on how the kids grow up. (0:35:42) Al: But that is coming in the second half of this year. (0:35:44) Al: Have you played, you’ve not played Coral Island? (0:35:46) Kelly: No. I really try to avoid early access. (0:35:47) Al: No. (0:35:50) Al: Well, it’s not early access anymore. (0:35:51) Kelly: Uh, oh, it’s out, out? (0:35:53) Al: Yeah. (0:35:54) Al: The 1.0 came out just over a year ago. (0:35:58) Kelly: Okay, I must have missed that. (0:35:58) Al: and then they go and they go on. (0:36:00) Kelly: I thought it was still in early access, still. Okay. (0:36:00) Al: 1.1 sometime last year? No. The 1.0 was technically not early access, but realistically (0:36:06) Al: was early access. The 1.1 feels like what the 1.0 should have been, but the multiplayer (0:36:12) Al: was always coming after early access. So I don’t feel like you would be missing out if (0:36:17) Al: you played now compared to if you played two years ago, you definitely were missing out (0:36:22) Al: in a lot. (0:36:22) Kelly: Okay, okay, maybe one day (0:36:24) Al: All right. And we also, we all maybe, maybe, probably not. We also have (0:36:30) Al: a new game by the developers of EverDream Valley. In fact, this is a sequel to EverDream (0:36:36) Al: Valley called EverDream Village. I get what they’re doing with that name, but also I am (0:36:42) Al: going to constantly mess up. Which one is which? They also feel the wrong way around, (0:36:47) Kelly: The valley and village is like too close to each other. (0:36:53) Al: you start in a village and then you go out to a valley. (0:36:53) Kelly: Yes, it should have been, this should be a prequel. (0:36:57) Kelly: Yeah, this is the prequel in my, (0:36:59) Kelly: I literally thought like this should be the prequel (0:37:00) Al: Set 10 years after the events of EverDream Valley, EverDream Village brings a whole (0:37:07) Al: new chapter with living, breathing village and a world beyond your farm. Now you’re built, (0:37:13) Al: this is the thing. It’s like the problem was EverDream Valley wasn’t really a valley. It (0:37:17) Al: was EverDream Farm. Right. And if it was that way, it was EverDream Farm and then EverDream (0:37:21) Al: Village. That makes more logical sense to be our expansion on that. Right. You’ll build (0:37:22) Kelly: Mm-hmm. (0:37:28) Al: relationships explore mysterious islands. (0:37:30) Al: The Valley may have been home but it’s time to explore a world full of new adventures, (0:37:44) Kelly: - Yeah, it doesn’t seem right, there’s something off. (0:37:57) Al: NPCs and endless possibilities. I don’t really get whirled and (0:38:00) Al: abilities from village. I know what they mean. I know what they (0:38:02) Kelly: - No, but I think they just mean the world of Everdream. (0:38:08) Al: mean. I know what they mean. Build your ideal cozy farm in a (0:38:12) Al: living village. Form bonds with fellow villagers to lend a hand (0:38:16) Al: as you grow crops, care for animals and craft a corner of (0:38:18) Al: paradise. Sail across enchanted islands to discover new resources (0:38:22) Al: and adventures along the way. Maybe it’s definitely not a (0:38:25) Kelly: Maybe there is a world. (0:38:28) Al: village. (0:38:31) Al: Anyway, I mean, you can ride a pig in Evergreen Valley, so they hopefully have something like that in this game. (0:38:36) Kelly: I’m looking at that right now. (0:38:38) Kelly: That actually looks really cute. (0:38:39) Kelly: That’s a good feature. (0:38:40) Al: I haven’t played this game. It’s been on my list for forever. (0:38:44) Kelly: The first one. (0:38:45) Al: Yes, well, the second one is now yet, so of course I’ve not played that. (0:38:48) Kelly: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. (0:38:50) Al: It’s just coming soon. They’ve not said when, it’s coming just soon. (0:38:54) Kelly: One day. (0:38:54) Al: One day. All right. (0:38:56) Kelly: Do you see this tag at the bottom on their news updates? (0:39:00) Al: The second one is that in the Evergreen Valley page? (0:39:04) Kelly: On the Steam page, yeah. (0:39:07) Al: Where am I looking? Where am I looking? (0:39:07) Kelly: I guess this is who they base the pig off of. (0:39:11) Kelly: Let me send it to you. (0:39:12) Kelly: I’ll just send it to you. (0:39:12) Al: There’s too many pages here. That’s the problem. (0:39:13) Kelly: I would do that. (0:39:15) Kelly: It really is. (0:39:15) Al: On their news. Oh, happy birthday, Peter Curleytail. (0:39:18) Kelly: Recent events, yes. (0:39:20) Al: I don’t know what to say. That is quite a pig. (0:39:24) Kelly: He’s a little frightening, but kind of cute. (0:39:26) Al: Yes, that is quite the pig. (0:39:29) Kelly: But I like the interpretation of him. (0:39:31) Al: Yeah, I like the name Peter Curleytail. (0:39:35) Kelly: Yeah, I. (0:39:36) Kelly: I’ve never seen a pig like that before, so it’s a little haunting. (0:39:42) Al: All right, that’s us done with the news. (0:39:44) Al: We are now going to talk about grimoire, grimoire. Is it grimoire? (0:39:51) Al: Grimoire. Grimoire grows. And grimoire is something that’s a witch term, isn’t it? (0:39:59) Al: like what it what I keep hearing great (0:40:00) Kelly: Yeah it’s always like I feel like it’s like swamps and grimoires and uh no it’s um what (0:40:00) Al: memoirs and lots of these witchy games. (0:40:08) Al: That explains that because, right, okay. (0:40:10) Kelly: is it a grimoire is a the book it’s the book it’s like your book of spells that’s what it is. (0:40:17) Al: And the grove is the land that you’re doing (0:40:22) Al: because a grove is like a kind of forest type thing. (0:40:26) Kelly: Yeah, yeah. But no, it’s a little book that you… (0:40:28) Al: Okay, makes sense. (0:40:30) Kelly: have all your information in. (0:40:33) Al: So, a quick introduction to this game. (0:40:38) Al: It is described on Steam as join the witches in their quest to restore the grimoire groves, (0:40:45) Al: master magic, grow cute plant creatures, and discover the mystery of the rainbow socks (0:40:52) Al: in this cozy roguelite dungeon crawler. (0:40:55) Al: The way I would describe this in my whole one hour and 20 minutes playing it (0:40:59) Al: is it is kind of cult of the lamb, but without actual, without. (0:41:09) Al: Combat the way you interact in your runs is different. (0:41:13) Al: It’s not combat so much. (0:41:16) Al: And it’s less about building a village and more about restoring nature. (0:41:24) Al: Would that be a fair way of putting it? (0:41:26) Kelly: Yeah, I think so. It’s, it’s, it’s… (0:41:29) Kelly: But you still, I feel like I’m fighting. (0:41:31) Kelly: Maybe I feel less like I’m fighting and I’m more surviving. (0:41:31) Al: Yes, okay, so I mean, okay, you could make an argument that it is basically just fighting, (0:41:39) Al: but it’s it feels so you’re feeding the plants instead of fighting them, I think is how they (0:41:44) Kelly: Yeah, yeah, but no, I’m just I’m just being a jerk. I think it’s I think that’s a good. (0:41:44) Al: describe it. So that’s why I’ve been like is not. No, no, it’s, it’s, it’s fair in terms (0:41:50) Al: of game play is very similar to most other Roguelike action games. (0:41:51) Kelly: Yes, I also think it it has that. Yeah, yeah, it has that cuteness that I think (0:41:59) Kelly: cultural land kind of has, which is why I think like they remind me like like you said like it (0:42:04) Kelly: makes you think of them. You have the juxtaposition. Yeah, yeah. (0:42:06) Al: I think the cuteness works much better in Cult of the Lam (0:42:09) Al: because it’s… exactly, exactly. (0:42:12) Al: Whereas here, the whole world is cute. (0:42:14) Kelly: But I love the saturation in this game. So like that for me is like, and I loved Call to the Land. (0:42:21) Al: Okay, I will say the game looks lovely. (0:42:24) Al: It looks really nice. (0:42:25) Al: I do love how the game actually looks. (0:42:28) Al: The graphics, the design of the characters, (0:42:36) Al: and character, but also the plants and everything. (0:42:38) Al: I do like all of that. (0:42:39) Al: That is all nice. (0:42:41) Al: I will absolutely agree with that. (0:42:44) Al: Yes. (0:42:46) Kelly: I just think it’s like you don’t always, you don’t really get a lot of games that are like, (0:42:52) Kelly: it’s like saturated, but it’s also pastel, like there’s two different kind of colored (0:42:56) Kelly: tones going on in the game, which I think is interesting. (0:43:00) Kelly: Like the backgrounds are more saturated, but the creatures, the plants are a little more (0:43:04) Kelly: pastel leaning, but it’s so vibrant. (0:43:07) Kelly: Like a lot of games, they’re so dark a lot of the time or like aiming to be more realistic (0:43:11) Al: - Yeah. (0:43:13) Kelly: in their tones, I guess. (0:43:15) Al: Yeah, yeah, yeah. (0:43:16) Kelly: Yes, but yeah, no, I love all of the designs. (0:43:17) Al: No, you’re definitely right about that. (0:43:20) Al: You wouldn’t look at this and think it was something else. (0:43:20) Kelly: I love all the little plants. (0:43:23) Al: That’s very true. (0:43:23) Kelly: No, exactly. (0:43:26) Al: So I guess there’s two main parts to this game, (0:43:29) Al: and there’s obviously a lot of other things, (0:43:31) Al: lot of things that I won’t have done in the main area. (0:43:33) Al: But like most of these roguelites, (0:43:37) Al: you have your hub, (0:43:38) Al: which is an area that is run– (0:43:41) Al: was previously run by some other witch– (0:43:44) Al: I can’t remember her name, maybe– (0:43:45) Kelly: Is it lavender? (0:43:47) Kelly: I think so. (0:43:49) Al: and it’s been taken over by thorns, (0:43:53) Al: and it’s all dreary, and you are to restore it. (0:43:57) Al: That’s the main idea. (0:43:58) Kelly: You’re the young spry witch coming in to fix it. (0:43:59) Al: And you do that by classic cliche, (0:44:05) Al: but it’s there for a reason. (0:44:08) Al: and your runs that you do. (0:44:11) Al: I think of roguelites specifically talking about roguelites not roguelikes (0:44:22) Al: well let’s not have that debate again. I find there are two types there are ones where (0:44:31) Al: your hub the point of the hub is to improve your powers skills etc to then do the runs and the (0:44:38) Kelly: Mm-hmm. Yes, I was going to say, very– (0:44:41) Al: runs is the purpose of the game and that would be your like Hades stuff like that. (0:44:49) Al: And then there’s this type of thing this and Cult of the Lamb where your hub is the point of (0:44:55) Al: the game and the runs are to gather resources for doing things in your hub. (0:45:00) Kelly: I would say it’s kind of like a mix, I think, between Cult of the Lamb and Hades in that aspect. (0:45:07) Kelly: Because I do think Cult of the Lamb, there’s so much that you do in your hub area. (0:45:12) Kelly: And I don’t think this quite has near that amount of stuff. (0:45:16) Kelly: Like, you have a lot of updates and things you can interact with. (0:45:20) Kelly: I don’t want to spoil anything. (0:45:22) Kelly: But Cult of the Lamb, you could like run the village until you ran out of resources. (0:45:28) Al: I guess my point is like you’re not the run isn’t the like with Hades you are escaping hell (0:45:28) Kelly: like I spent like five minutes like you know up (0:45:31) Kelly: and then I got another run (0:45:37) Kelly: the sole purpose yes (0:45:40) Al: and your run is escaping hell and if you fail you go back to the hub world and you try again. (0:45:45) Al: Whereas in this and with Cult of the Lamb the point is the runs you’re doing to do (0:45:50) Al: things to bring back you’re never like disappearing and I think that’s that is very much (0:45:53) Kelly: No, that’s a fair point, yeah. (0:45:58) Al: why I liked Cult of the Lamb because I was building up this thing and I really hate the (0:46:05) Al: overall feeling of Hades where if you fail you fail and you’re back to the start and you have (0:46:09) Al: to start again and so I was really excited for this because I was like oh maybe this will be (0:46:15) Al: another one that I like because it’s that sort of style but I mean I guess I need to say at some (0:46:21) Al: point I didn’t like the combat in this game. I didn’t but I feel like (0:46:24) Kelly: Did you try it on easy mode? (0:46:27) Kelly: I d

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Al and Kev talk about Hello Kitty Island Adventure Timings 00:00:00: Theme Tune 00:00:30: Intro 00:01:30: What Have We Been Up To 00:22:51: Game News 00:36:43: Hello Kitty Island Adventure 01:16:05: Outro Links Ratopia 1.0 Grimoire Groves Release Sugardew Island Release The Ranchers Police District My Time at Sandrock Chibi Figurines Contact Al on Mastodon: https://mastodon.scot/@TheScotBot Email Us: https://harvestseason.club/contact/ Transcript (0:00:30) Al: Hello, farmers, and welcome to another episode of the harvest season. (0:00:35) Al: My name is Al. (0:00:37) Kev: My name is Kevin, here with the vengeance. (0:00:40) Al: You sounded a little bit unsure about your name there. (0:00:42) Al: And we’re here today to talk about Cosco Games. (0:00:46) Kev: Woo! (0:00:48) Kev: I can’t get the wolf pack thing out of my head now. (0:00:51) Kev: They’re listening to last two weeks. (0:00:56) Al: This episode, we are going to talk about Hello Kitty Island. (0:01:00) Al: Adventure. Oh, but you’ve already talked about that. I hear you say, “Well, (0:01:05) Al: we’re going for the second harvest of it, because it has finally come out on Steam and Switch.” (0:01:08) Kev: Second Harvest. (0:01:14) Kev: Switch and other things, yes. (0:01:17) Al: You can tell what Kevin cares about. So, we’re going to talk about that. (0:01:19) Kev: Yeah, haha, yeah. (0:01:24) Kev: I don’t have a Steam Deck, so, well. (0:01:26) Al: Fair. Before that, we have some news. (0:01:31) Al: But first of all, Kevin, what have you been up to? (0:01:33) Kev: Oh, hello everyone. I have been up to work. I barely have, it’s been a lot done working. (0:01:42) Kev: I’m in one of those periods where I’m doing a lot of daily sort of stuff, comfort games. (0:01:51) Kev: And then the Zone Zero continues to be good. Marvel Snap, I’m playing Marvel Snap right now. (0:01:56) Kev: I know you’re not, I like to follow the channel, I know you’re not. That’s fine. (0:01:58) Al: I am not. No, no. I took a break from it because it was basically consuming me. (0:02:03) Kev: It’s consumed me. But I think it’s in a decent place, so I’m okay being consumed by Marvel Snap. (0:02:12) Kev: We got the new season based stuff, the Brave New World, the Red Hulk, and the new Captain America, all that good stuff. (0:02:21) Kev: Um… I… (0:02:22) Al: I have been occasionally looking at the, um, the new cards and stuff like that, but I haven’t (0:02:30) Al: looked at the new, the new season stuff. Is there anything that excites you? (0:02:34) Kev: Yeah, they’re interesting. Funnily enough, the one that excites me most is not related to the (0:02:44) Kev: movie. It’s a character called Diamondback. Diamondback is a type of rattlesnake, if you’re (0:02:50) Kev: not familiar. She’s part of a group called the Serpent Society. I can’t remember exactly what, (0:02:56) Kev: but she’s got one of those effects that lowers everyone else’s power on your head. (0:03:04) Kev: I think it doubles the amount lowered or something like that, so I’m excited by that. (0:03:10) Kev: Otherwise, the other stuff’s fine. None of it’s crazy game breaking. I’m more excited by (0:03:15) Al: Oh, is next month is it Daredevil stuff? No. Okay. (0:03:16) Kev: some stuff in the data points for next month, but yeah, the season’s okay. Next month is going to (0:03:24) Kev: be, oh, that’d be a good one, but no. They’re going to get the name of it. Basically, like ancient (0:03:34) Kev: like BC or whatever, Avengers BC, something like that. I don’t remember. Yeah, they have (0:03:40) Kev: some interesting effects. Otherwise, Marvel Snap is good. I can see my visual customizations and (0:03:53) Kev: stuff all during the whole match, not at just the beginning. (0:03:53) Al: All right, all right, all right, calm down, calm down. You just want to mock the Pokemon (0:04:04) Kev: That’s it. (0:04:04) Al: fans again. (0:04:06) Kev: Look, I had no problem with Pocket. (0:04:09) Kev: They’re the ones who are kind of shooting themselves (0:04:13) Kev: in the foot here. (0:04:14) Al: Oh, yeah, we don’t need to we talked about that so many times. I don’t think we need to talk about it again. (0:04:20) Kev: Yeah, I know. (0:04:21) Kev: I just– I feel bad for you guys, honestly. (0:04:25) Kev: But yeah, Marvel snaps. (0:04:26) Al: I mean, I don’t feel bad for me. I don’t particularly care because I’m just collecting, right? Yeah, I do some battles, but my main point is collecting, and that is what I’m doing, whereas with Marvel Snap, it’s much more a battle-focused game because there are fewer cards. (0:04:27) Kev: Good stuff. (0:04:40) Kev: Yeah, yeah, you know what, you’re right. If you’re just collecting pocket is still probably all right. Well, I’d say that but the trading I guess is cool as collecting related so (0:04:46) Al: It’s great. (0:04:52) Al: Look, it’s less bad than it was, but it’s still bad. (0:04:59) Kev: Oh, I get you I (0:05:02) Al: I like I will say I like how it’s actually implemented. (0:05:05) Al: The currencies are stupid. (0:05:06) Al: The restrictions are stupid, but I like the feature. (0:05:08) Kev: Yeah (0:05:08) Al: How is actually implemented? (0:05:10) Kev: Okay, well, there you go. I’m trying to clear that bar (0:05:17) Kev: But yeah, let’s see other than that (0:05:20) Kev: obviously (0:05:21) Kev: Super Mario Odyssey we were playing over that at triple-r. So I’ve been playing some of that too. That’s good stuff (0:05:29) Kev: What do I have to say? It’s super hard to see it’s a good game (0:05:34) Kev: And (0:05:35) Kev: Honestly this week it’s it’s largely been Hello Kitty because I’ve been trying to climb that in cuz (0:05:41) Kev: We did not have a lot of time (0:05:42) Kev: It was like what a week before recording roughly a little more than a week when it came out (0:05:46) Kev: So I got it and I’m rushing to get it to get through it (0:05:52) Kev: But yeah, and so you’ll hear my thoughts later. What about you? Well, what’s going on over there? (0:05:57) Al: I have, I mean, I wasn’t planning on talking about it, but yeah, I’ve been playing pocket (0:06:02) Al: as usual, got the new set, got most of the new set. So I’m continuing for another few (0:06:07) Al: weeks of getting no cards most days. (0:06:10) Kev: I will say I will say the Cynthia accessories packs that came out were (0:06:17) Kev: pretty good that was good stuff in fact it’s why don’t they make that real like (0:06:18) Al: - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. (0:06:25) Al: I will only buy the stuff that is bundled with gold. (0:06:30) Al: I’m not gonna spend gold on those things (0:06:32) Al: because the problem there is like, (0:06:34) Al: I could use those gold cards (0:06:36) Al: rather than the accessories, right? (0:06:38) Kev: Mmm, that’s an excellent. (0:06:38) Al: That’s the problem. (0:06:39) Al: Whereas I bought both of the ones, (0:06:41) Al: so there was one with the first set (0:06:44) Al: and there’s one with the second set, (0:06:45) Al: which is like you buy it, and you get gold and cosmes. (0:06:49) Al: It’s like I will do that, because then I’m getting the gold as well. (0:06:52) Al: But yeah, I am definitely my fault (0:06:57) Al: and my problem that I’m getting the set so quickly, (0:07:02) Al: because what I’m doing, obviously, is I’m saving up my glasses (0:07:06) Al: and I’m spending some gold and I’m opening like 50 packs in the first couple of days. (0:07:11) Al: So obviously, I’m going to get most of the set when I do that. (0:07:14) Al: But it makes for a fun couple of days, at least. (0:07:19) Al: What else am I doing? (0:07:20) Al: I am continuing to play Harvest Moon Home, Sweet Home. (0:07:23) Al: So that is a thing that I’m still continuing. (0:07:26) Kev: Okay, okay. (0:07:28) Al: I might have more to say about that in a future episode, we’ll see. (0:07:32) Kev: I’m so, you know, I’m impressed you’re still playing I will say that that alone is a testament to the quality of the game (0:07:40) Kev: well relative to other (0:07:42) Kev: Natsume titles. (0:07:42) Al: Yeah, yeah. It’s yeah, okay, I’m not gonna say anything about it just now, but yeah, I’m I feel like I’m at I am actively enjoying myself. I think that’s as far as I’ll go at this point. I don’t think so. I think it’s just that the game gets better as you play it more, right? Because you unlock better tools and stuff and that makes some of the annoyances become less annoying, you know. (0:07:55) Kev: Is it Stockholm Syndrome? (0:08:10) Kev: Okay, that’s that is interesting (0:08:13) Al: » The other thing I’m playing just now is Sugardew Island because we’ll talk about that in the news. (0:08:18) Kev: Ah (0:08:19) Kev: You’re going for it. Oh, you need to what you need to get re-legend on there go for the hat trick (0:08:24) Al: But let’s talk about that in the news, but yeah, that is another thing I’ve been playing (0:08:28) Al: this week. (0:08:30) Al: And not a game, but Kevin, I have watched The Gifted. (0:08:34) Al: Have you ever seen The Gifted? (0:08:35) Kev: they gifted on no what is (0:08:37) Al: So this was one of the like 2017, 2018, 2019 X-Men series. (0:08:46) Kev: oh man oh this is one of those weird ones that okay does it do they even oh it has an x over the (0:08:54) Kev: I okay so they are using the x but oh this isn’t the new mutants this is okay okay (0:08:59) Al: No, no, no. So they had Legion and they had the Gifted. They were both around the same (0:09:06) Al: sort of time and Legion was obviously about Legion. And so that was very weird because, (0:09:12) Al: well, his powers are weird and his not powers are also weird. So that was definitely a weird (0:09:20) Al: show to watch, but I really liked that. The Gifted is much more kind of standard, I guess. (0:09:30) Al: The Arrowverse sort of stuff, but obviously Marvel, X-Men. And it’s much more like a group (0:09:33) Kev: Okay, ah, okay (0:09:38) Al: of mutants. It’s a group of mutants fighting against humans who are trying to kill them (0:09:45) Al: and the government is trying to kill them and blah, blah, blah, blah. And the funny (0:09:52) Al: thing about it is, it is probably the thing I’ve seen that has the most references to (0:09:57) Al: the X-Men without having a single X-Men. (0:09:59) Al: It feels like every episode they mention the X-Men. (0:10:05) Al: The starting point behind the series is the X-Men disappeared a few years ago. (0:10:11) Al: And then there was a horrible disaster in DC, (0:10:16) Al: where some unidentified mutant has some unidentified accident (0:10:22) Al: that means there’s basically a massive explosion and it kills a bunch of people. (0:10:26) Al: and so since then they set up this new (0:10:29) Al: government task force called Sentinel Services, of course, they have to use the name Sentinel. (0:10:34) Kev: Of course (0:10:36) Al: And Trask is mentioned, you know, the usual blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. (0:10:37) Kev: Do you get it do you get it out? (0:10:43) Al: And they’re set up to like, they start off by being like, oh, we are containing criminal (0:10:51) Al: mutants. But of course, it never stops at that, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know (0:10:52) Kev: uh-huh (0:10:55) Kev: what (0:10:57) Al: exactly where that loops, right? (0:10:59) Al: So which by the by the way, it feels very painful watching this in 2025, just going (0:10:59) Kev: what (0:11:00) Kev: oh boy do I I (0:11:03) Kev: I see that (0:11:04) Kev: for IRL (0:11:10) Al: to just going to put that out there, you know, with the talk of like, you know, camps to (0:11:11) Kev: Ugh. (0:11:13) Kev: Ugh. (0:11:15) Kev: Ugh. (0:11:17) Kev: Ugh. (0:11:18) Al: put them in and, you know, let’s say, I kind of wish I’d watched it last year rather than (0:11:19) Kev: Aww, sick. (0:11:24) Al: this year, but… (0:11:25) Kev: This sounds like a fun segment. (0:11:28) Kev: I will describe the thing. (0:11:29) Al: So, the kind of main characters are, I don’t know if you’ve, oh, who are they called? (0:11:30) Kev: Is this a scene from “The Gifted”? (0:11:32) Kev: Or Trump’s first two weeks in office? (0:11:35) Kev: It would be both! (0:11:48) Al: Because I had not heard of them before, the Strucker Twins, that’s what it is. Do you know (0:11:53) Al: the Strucker Twins? (0:11:54) Kev: Okay, so I pulled up the wiki cuz I’m curious (0:11:57) Kev: This no, and I’m curious because is that any relation to Baron Von Strucker from Hydra? (0:11:59) Al: So, yes, kind of. So, what I’ll say is, in the comics, yes, but in the show, not really. (0:12:12) Kev: Okay, sure, okay (0:12:14) Al: So as far as I can see, in the comics, there are the Strucker Twins who are children of (0:12:24) Kev: - Yeah, I know the stroke of trains, twins. (0:12:24) Al: - Baron struck her. (0:12:25) Kev: I love Wanda and Pietro. (0:12:29) Al: - Yeah, well, yeah, there is a lot of similarities (0:12:32) Al: between these things. (0:12:33) Al: They are never mentioned, (0:12:36) Al: like Baron struck her is never mentioned in the series. (0:12:41) Al: So they could still be, (0:12:42) Kev: That’s good stuff (0:12:42) Al: so it’s not focusing on the two twins (0:12:46) Al: that are in the comics. (0:12:47) Al: It’s like they are great grandchildren (0:12:48) Kev: Yeah (0:12:52) Al: who are not twins either. (0:12:54) Al: They’re just brother and sister a few years apart, (0:12:56) Al: but they have the same powers (0:12:58) Al: as. (0:13:00) Al: The struggle twins did and there’s a whole thing around like their father was working for Sentinel Services and (0:13:10) Al: but it turns out he was actually secretly a mutant. He just didn’t know it because his father had cured the X gene in him blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, like lots of complicated things around that. (0:13:23) Al: It was fine. I enjoyed it. It wasn’t bad by any stretch of the imagination. (0:13:29) Al: But it wasn’t like I think Legion was a very good show and this was a fine show. It was fine. I enjoyed it. I’m glad I watched it. I’m a little bit annoyed because they cancelled it after season two but season two ended on a cliffhanger. (0:13:34) Kev: Okay, ah. (0:13:43) Kev: Oh, sick! That’s the best! (0:13:46) Al: And they did have a lot of different mutants with a lot of different powers, some of which you would recognize like they had Polaris who’s probably like the I guess the most well known one they had in the series. (0:13:56) Al: and they never mention my… (0:13:56) Kev: how crazy (0:13:59) Al: But. So they it’s very clear that they’re talking about him, but they never use his name, right? (0:14:00) Kev: I was about to say how crazy I imagine they didn’t and how crazy it is that we (0:14:04) Kev: got polaris but not (0:14:12) Al: So she constantly talks about her birth father and they talk about how, oh, she is the like, you know, (0:14:13) Kev: Right, right? (0:14:18) Al: she’s mutant royalty and all these things. (0:14:21) Al: Like, it’s so clear. (0:14:22) Al: It’s just like, did you not have the rights to the name? (0:14:26) Al: Like, that’s basically what it feels like, right? (0:14:27) Kev: Ohh, that’s great! I love that. (0:14:29) Al: Just say the name. Oh, my word. (0:14:31) Al: Everybody knows who you’re talking about. (0:14:36) Kev: Ohh, that’s so good. (0:14:39) Al: So, yeah, it’s I enjoyed it. (0:14:41) Al: It was fun. (0:14:43) Al: Yeah, I’ve kind of now I’ve not gone back to like the kind of like 90s and previous Marvel live action shows, but like everything post millennium. (0:14:56) Al: I’ve I’ve now watched all of them. (0:14:56) Kev: why not oh oh oh I thought you’re your 10 on it oh sure (0:14:59) Al: I’ve just not got there yet. (0:15:00) Al: Like, I’m obviously going to watch, you know, I’m obviously going. (0:15:04) Al: No, I just like you can’t watch everything all at the same time, right? (0:15:07) Al: You just have to get things slowly. (0:15:09) Al: So, like, obviously, I’m going to watch, you know, the Incredible Hulk. (0:15:12) Al: Lou Ferrigno’s Incredible Hulk. (0:15:14) Al: And I’ll see what I’ll think if there’s any others I want to watch. (0:15:17) Al: But like I’ve watched all the big live action Marvel ones, except for that Hulk show, I think. (0:15:26) Kev: Did you watch all of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.? (0:15:30) Al: Who knows if I’ll end up watching the like was it the 90s? (0:15:33) Al: There was a 90s Captain America, I think, and stuff like that. (0:15:36) Al: Who knows if I’ll get to watch them or not. (0:15:37) Kev: - Yeah. (0:15:39) Al: But yeah, that’s fun. (0:15:41) Al: I might go. (0:15:42) Al: I’ll probably watch a bunch of animated stuff first. (0:15:48) Kev: Yeah, you’re probably better off and watch that Iron Man with the mullet (0:15:48) Al: But I think I might go into. (0:15:53) Al: Well, I probably will end up going with some DC stuff first, right? (0:15:59) Al: 90s animated Batman and stuff like that. (0:16:02) Kev: wait have you never seen or wow yeah yeah of course right like i (0:16:03) Al: I haven’t. (0:16:05) Al: I mean, I’ve seen clips here and there, but I’ve not seen full episodes. (0:16:09) Al: Yeah. (0:16:09) Kev: assume you’ve seen but wow oh man you’re in a tree forget all (0:16:14) Kev: everything else like you’ve ever listed wow (0:16:16) Al: So I’ve got that to watch. (0:16:17) Kev: batman (0:16:18) Al: And I think there’s one really good Justice League one, (0:16:21) Al: I think, isn’t there, that people always talk about. (0:16:23) Kev: yes so yeah so that’s the dcau the dc animated universe that started off with (0:16:26) Al: Yeah. (0:16:28) Kev: the 90s batman and they just kind of went off there (0:16:30) Al: Yeah. (0:16:32) Kev: because it’s all in the same cannon (0:16:32) Al: Yeah, I’ve got a list from our mutual friend, Alex. (0:16:38) Al: He sent me a spreadsheet with basically all of the stuff (0:16:42) Al: that he cares about, and like a column that says, (0:16:45) Al: whether this is a must watch. (0:16:47) Al: Should watch or you can skip it sort of thing. (0:16:50) Al: So I will probably start watching those. (0:16:53) Kev: Oh, man, I’m excited for you. I can’t wait to hear your thoughts. (0:16:56) Al: Well, I was surprised with how few episodes there are (0:17:00) Al: in the original Batman, the animated series from the 90s. (0:17:03) Al: Like there aren’t actually that many. (0:17:03) Kev: Yeah, it’s well, are you counting? (0:17:05) Al: 85 episodes. (0:17:06) Al: It’s four seasons. (0:17:09) Al: Well, okay. (0:17:10) Al: Oh, yes, I remember this one. (0:17:11) Al: This was weird because it’s like listed in my app, my TV tracking app. (0:17:15) Al: season one has six (0:17:16) Al: like 60 episodes. Two and three have 10 each and then four has five. So it looks (0:17:22) Al: like they got really confused as to what seasons were. (0:17:26) Kev: That’s, that is very odd. (0:17:29) Al: It’s one of those ones that’s going to be super fun to try and watch everything because (0:17:33) Al: they’re in weird orders and they can’t decide what like there’ll be three specific episodes (0:17:39) Al: that are only on one random service. It’s like I’ve been trying to watch for a couple (0:17:44) Al: For years now, I’ve been trying to finish watching. (0:17:46) Al: So I’ve done all of seasons one to five, except three specific episodes from season (0:17:48) Kev: Ha ha ha, good luck with that! (0:17:57) Al: five. No, they’re not the last three episodes. They’re episodes 51 and 52 of 54. And I’ve (0:18:06) Al: also watched episode 14 of season six. Why? Who knows? (0:18:14) Al: So Netflix had seasoned. (0:18:16) Al: It’s like there are some episodes of each of those seasons on some services but like (0:18:30) Kev: Uh, probably I don’t know that thing’s eternal. It is wild to think. (0:18:40) Al: five episodes of season six or on one random service and then there’s like two episodes (0:18:45) Al: of Season 8, and then (0:18:47) Al: like 20 episodes of Season 7, and I know it doesn’t matter, I don’t need to watch this show in order, because this is the least, the show where like continuity matters the least, right? Because everything, it’s like the Simpsons, right? There’s very few things that actually change, right? So it doesn’t matter. But some small things matter, right? Like there was an arc of like five episodes where they had a new character. And if you randomly watched the third episode of that, you’d be like, who is this? (0:18:58) Kev: Oh, yeah. (0:19:16) Al: Random character, why are they here? But it doesn’t happen very often. And so it’s hard to predict. That’s the problem. (0:19:18) Kev: that is true (0:19:20) Kev: yeah (0:19:22) Kev: yeah you’re right (0:19:24) Kev: oh that’s, that’s incredible (0:19:24) Al: I’m (0:19:26) Kev: good times, good times (0:19:28) Kev: um (0:19:30) Kev: oh man, I’m, I’m (0:19:32) Kev: like, I think I’m honestly way (0:19:34) Kev: more excited for uh (0:19:36) Kev: uh you to go through the DC stuff (0:19:38) Kev: stuff cause the plot is so (0:19:40) Kev: higher in general, um on the small (0:19:40) Al: Yeah, I think I’ve watched all of the actually good Marvel animated stuff. (0:19:42) Kev: screen (0:19:46) Kev: Wait, did you watch our spider? (0:19:46) Al: I’ve watched… I have not, no. Is that one I need to watch? (0:19:48) Kev: Do you watch these terrors? (0:19:52) Kev: You didn’t watch? Oh my goodness! (0:19:54) Kev: Yes! (0:19:54) Al: Calm down. It’s so easy not to watch things. So which was this one? (0:19:58) Al: So Earth’s Mightiest Heroes, you say it’s called. Is that all it’s called? (0:20:00) Kev: this was yeah yeah avengers or smite’s heroes yes it was a um yes um it’s late (0:20:04) Al: Oh, it’s got Avengers in the name, right? Okay. (0:20:08) Al: the avenger’s earth’s mightiest heroes this is from (0:20:10) Al: 2010 yeah two seasons 26 episodes each 2010 to 2012 (0:20:12) Kev: yeah let’s say late 22,000 early 2010s yeah um that okay so that is probably the best (0:20:22) Kev: animated marvel project no that well okay no hold on let me uh (0:20:25) Al: oh really better than X-Men and Spider-man (0:20:29) Kev: Better than– you know what? (0:20:31) Kev: I’ll say– that might be– that’s tough to say. (0:20:35) Al: I’m going to need to post in Slack, haven’t I, and say, what are the must-watch Marvel (0:20:41) Al: animated ones, and make sure that I’ve watched all of them. (0:20:41) Kev: OK, well, I will say Earth’s Mightiest Heroes (0:20:46) Kev: is a must-watch. (0:20:48) Kev: At the very least, it is probably (0:20:50) Kev: one of the definitive pieces of Avengers– (0:20:53) Kev: no, not the– it is the definitive piece (0:20:55) Kev: of Avengers media, because it came out (0:20:56) Al: Okay, fair enough. (0:21:01) Kev: to the MCU film Avengers. (0:21:04) Al: Yeah, just in the run-up to it basically. (0:21:05) Kev: So it– yes. (0:21:09) Kev: And so it got to cover everything before, (0:21:13) Kev: like all the classic Avengers stories, (0:21:15) Kev: more or less, and the characterizations. (0:21:16) Al: It’s not it’s not in the same continuity, right? It’s not. (0:21:19) Kev: It is not, no. (0:21:21) Kev: So it is excellent, excellent, excellent. (0:21:24) Kev: And sadly, the MCU actually killed it. (0:21:27) Kev: First off, they delayed the second season by a year or two. (0:21:30) Kev: It would coincide with the release of the MCU Avengers film, more or less, and then after that, they cancelled the series to start a new series that was more MCU related or closer to that. (0:21:46) Kev: And it’s trying to shame. (0:21:48) Al: These things are so much easier to keep track of than to catch up on, right? (0:21:55) Al: People always talk, oh, there’s so much Marvel stuff now. (0:21:58) Al: But I feel like you just weren’t paying attention if you didn’t think there was (0:22:02) Al: a lot of Marvel stuff before, right? Like, there’s so many things. (0:22:03) Kev: Oh yeah, no, there’s always there’s so much Marvel stuff (0:22:08) Kev: much spectacular spider-man (0:22:10) Al: I know, but it’s on my list. (0:22:12) Kev: Okay, good cuz yeah, okay like I’d put Avengers like right up there a spectacular aired around the same time, too (0:22:21) Kev: like they’re just the definitive things for their respective series more or less like as much as I love 90s spider-man cuz it’s so (0:22:28) Kev: campy and ridiculous and ingrained into my (0:22:31) Kev: » The Spectacular Spider-Man. (0:22:33) Kev: Is the actual one you should watch because that’s the good one and actually does everything correctly. (0:22:38) Al: Okay, fair enough. (0:22:38) Kev: Yeah, but yeah, I can’t. Oh, man, you still got a lot of good stuff ahead. I’m very excited for you. (0:22:46) Al: There’s always more stuff to watch. (0:22:47) Kev: All right. (0:22:48) Al: I think that’s me. (0:22:51) Al: All right, let’s talk about some news. (0:22:53) Al: First up, we have RATOPIA, which is like a town builder. (0:23:01) Al: Farming survival game, however you want to describe it. (0:23:02) Kev: the rat topia builder, the rat village builder. (0:23:07) Al: It is going to hit 1.0 on the first of May. (0:23:11) Al: A-woo! (0:23:12) Kev: I’d I’m real for that. I’m gonna play that because I like 1.0s and this is a cool (0:23:18) Kev: I’ve always thought this is a cool one cuz it’s I mean one it’s it’s kind of that (0:23:23) Kev: side 2d (0:23:25) Kev: araria-esque (0:23:27) Kev: Gameplay, but it’s rats. So that’s that’s way more fun (0:23:30) Al: It is rats, you’re correct. Yeah, I have a feeling I’m going to play this one, but I (0:23:40) Al: don’t know how I’m going to feel about it, but I’m intrigued by it. Because you’re playing (0:23:45) Al: a specific character in this one, aren’t you? It’s not management style, which is what I (0:23:48) Kev: You it looks like it you’re playing (0:23:52) Kev: Yeah (0:23:52) Al: I really don’t like about time builders. So we’ll see. (0:23:54) Kev: Yeah (0:23:57) Kev: Yeah, yeah we will see I’m excited (0:24:01) Kev: Yeah, I like I like rodents and rodent (0:24:06) Al: Next we have Grimoire Groves, they’ve announced that they’re releasing on the 4th of March. (0:24:11) Al: I think they had a new trailer as well. (0:24:12) Kev: okay now hold on my same I’m ready to open I have to double-check I have a lot (0:24:18) Kev: of links open I forget which ones it’s (0:24:20) Al: This is a witch-based one, you know, it’s a roguelike dungeon crawler. (0:24:25) Kev: all networks you got us (0:24:29) Al: Sorry, cozy roguelike dungeon crawler with witches. (0:24:32) Kev: there we go that’s what we need (0:24:34) Al: Join the… (0:24:36) Al: I’ve been watching this one for ages. I don’t think I realized it was Roguelike. (0:24:40) Kev: I didn’t either, um, it’s, it’s, okay, look, I’m looking, are we rewatching the trailer? (0:24:49) Kev: This, yeah, okay, yeah, this is, this is a very much more cozy, pretty, cold blue lamb. (0:24:56) Kev: That’s what it really looks like. (0:24:58) Kev: Um, yeah, yeah, the art style is very fun. (0:24:58) Al: I like how the game looks, like graphics-wise, really nice. (0:25:03) Kev: It’s very colorful, psychedelic, look like it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s out there. (0:25:11) Kev: Um, I, some of the gameplay stuff looks interesting. (0:25:16) Kev: You’re casting a lot of, it’s not like, uh, of the lamb was, you know, sword, weapon, (0:25:21) Kev: game play or whatever, you’re casting a lot of stuff here. (0:25:24) Kev: Um, wow. (0:25:25) Kev: Even some of those icons for speaking, um, I’m, I’m, my interest has been piqued. (0:25:32) Al: Well that’s a good point. Is it, is it, is it roguelite like Cult of the Lamb is roguelite, (0:25:37) Al: where you have your like area that you build up and you go out on runs to get stuff? That’s (0:25:41) Kev: It sure looks like it because the farming you’re growing plants that’s advertised clearly in the trailer (0:25:43) Al: a good point. Yeah. Oh no. Is this actually going to be the second roguelite I actually like? (0:25:53) Al: Because it does the thing that I like. (0:25:54) Kev: Maybe it looks like it has a lot going for it. I’ll say that (0:25:58) Al: It doesn’t make it clear in the description exactly what the rules are. (0:26:02) Al: I’m going to have to buy this game now I’m an eye. Boo! (0:26:04) Kev: yeah (0:26:06) Kev: um (0:26:07) Kev: but hey (0:26:12) Kev: all gosh yes (0:26:14) Al: And then people can mock me for buying another rogue light. (0:26:16) Kev: there will be a demo updated demo on february seventeenth (0:26:20) Kev: if you want to try it out before you buy (0:26:22) Al: Maybe, maybe. That is what I probably should do. That is not what I tend to do. (0:26:28) Kev: It’s a good idea. (0:26:29) Kev: I’m not gonna do it. (0:26:32) Al: Uh speaking of games that I buy for some reason uh Sugajou Island have announced that they’re (0:26:40) Al: releasing on the 7th of March uh but the game is out now already for Kickstarter backers so if you (0:26:46) Al: backed it like me uh you have you should have your key by now um also the physical version is coming (0:26:54) Kev: I’ve got to say, I am impressed that a game has made it this far just by flying too close to the sun and coughing Stardew with changing the name up a little. (0:27:02) Al: I just, I hate myself every time I see the name. (0:27:07) Kev: Like, I’ll be like, I’m not even going to judge the gameplay because I’m not even, I haven’t looked at it closely enough, but this thing is going by its name alone like 90%. Let’s, let’s be quite honest. (0:27:21) Kev: Um… (0:27:22) Al: Yeah, I’m obviously going to talk about the game more in the future, not in this episode. (0:27:29) Al: It’s not top tier farming game, let’s put it that way. (0:27:32) Kev: I mean, it’s sure sure (0:27:35) Al: It’s not the absolute worst farming game I’ve played, though. (0:27:39) Kev: Sure, you know what you’re right the bar is high or very low depending on the direction (0:27:41) Al: Yeah, it has gone straight through the middle of that as meh. (0:27:50) Kev: Okay, you know is is that better or worse for it, I don’t know but (0:27:56) Al: Yeah, I’m gonna have a lot to say in the next episode probably (0:28:03) Al: But yeah, that’s that’s my initial thought is it is okay (0:28:10) Kev: there you go put that on the box (0:28:13) Al: They have already to be fair to them they have already fixed multiple thing multiple issues I had with the game (0:28:20) Al: So that is something (0:28:22) Kev: all right well you know that is uh that is like good just across the board when a developer (0:28:29) Kev: cares about uh their you know supporting and whatnot so I will say that good on them for that bit (0:28:38) Al: OK, so next we have this is interesting. (0:28:42) Al: Did you look at these links before the podcast? (0:28:44) Al: Just before we talk about this? (0:28:46) Al: OK, so just for the listeners, I’m going to try and explain what we’re looking at (0:28:51) Al: here. This is so that the game is the ranchers. (0:28:56) Al: We’ve talked about it before. (0:28:57) Al: It’s a farming game. (0:28:59) Al: It’s an open world farming game. (0:29:02) Al: What’s interesting is they’ve introduced police. (0:29:08) Al: And. (0:29:09) Kev: Aww, sick. (0:29:11) Al: I think I can describe this as they’re it basically seems like they’re turning (0:29:16) Al: this game into grand theft farm. (0:29:19) Kev: Yep, I was about to say, like, the game is called The Ranchers, but nothing on the Steam page is a ranch. (0:29:27) Al: There’s cows. What are you talking about? (0:29:34) Kev: Wait did I miss them? Oh, yeah on the cover. I see you’re right. There’s the image (0:29:34) Al: So, this is, yeah. So, they’re calling this the Ranchers Police District Update. Now don’t (0:29:45) Al: be confused. This is not like a game update. This is just like an information update. They’re (0:29:51) Al: describing this feature that’s going to be in the game, because this game isn’t out yet. (0:29:55) Al: not in Ali access. And I. (0:29:57) Al: They say I’m excited to introduce our newest feature, (0:30:01) Al: the ranchers police district, which by the way, just as a, (0:30:04) Al: just as a startup, this is what we all want is more police. (0:30:10) Al: Secondly, they say from the start, (0:30:13) Al: the ranchers has given you tons of freedom to play the game your way. (0:30:16) Al: You can stick to the rules and enjoy a calm, relaxed experience, (0:30:18) Al: or you can mix things up, maybe even try something a little daring, (0:30:22) Al: like swiping NPCs, crops, cars, cows, or chickens, (0:30:26) Al: vandalizing public. (0:30:27) Al: property or even shaking up national security for a little bit of mischief. Ultimately, (0:30:32) Al: it’s your call and you probably have your own reasons for how you play. Before, if you (0:30:37) Al: got caught, the game would hit you with a fine to teach you a lesson. Harsh and not (0:30:40) Al: very fun, especially in open world farming sim where freedom is key. Now, things feel (0:30:45) Al: a bit more like real life. Your actions have consequences. Each misdeed you commit will (0:30:50) Al: trigger a reaction from the rancher’s beliefs, giving you the freedom to deal with it your (0:30:55) Al: You can pay up, surrender, or even poo- (0:30:57) Al: things further at your own risk and potential reward. (0:31:02) Kev: Aww. (0:31:03) Al: So you can get arrested in this game, basically. (0:31:06) Kev: Yeah. (0:31:08) Kev: Yeah. (0:31:11) Al: Part of me is like, I hate it. (0:31:14) Kev: Yeah. (0:31:16) Al: And part of me is like, I actually kind of like it, (0:31:19) Al: because this is trying to do something different with farming games, (0:31:22) Al: which is such a rare thing nowadays, right? (0:31:24) Al: - Okay. (0:31:24) Kev: If that is true (0:31:25) Al: Thank you. (0:31:28) Al: What I also find really interesting is the comments on the Kickstarter. (0:31:32) Al: Can you see the Kickstarter? (0:31:33) Al: I don’t know if that’s backers only. (0:31:35) Al: Oh no, I’m not a backer. (0:31:36) Kev: let’s see here (0:31:36) Al: I’m not a backer, am I? (0:31:38) Al: Oh no, I did back it. (0:31:40) Kev: you back this all sick (0:31:42) Al: I don’t even remember backing this game. (0:31:46) Al: Oh man, I am not to be trusted with Kickstarter. (0:31:51) Al: I don’t think this is a backers only update. (0:31:54) Al: But anyway, the comments are… (0:31:57) Al: really not positive from this. One is like, “Are you sure you aren’t just trolling everyone (0:32:04) Al: with this? April 1st is quite some time away. I definitely did not want GTA.” (0:32:07) Kev: Aww yeah! (0:32:11) Al: “I was all for this game until this update. If I wanted police in the game I’m playing, (0:32:14) Al: I wouldn’t play a cosy farming sim.” Yeah, I agree, but also I don’t agree. I’m not (0:32:23) Al: Really sure. On Steam, there are 26 comments, but there’s a hundred. (0:32:27) Al: And 26 thumbs up. So I don’t think it’s clear cut. (0:32:34) Al: People hate this. I think it’s like there’s a lot of thoughts on this. (0:32:40) Kev: Yeah, yeah, I’m sure, I’m sure. (0:32:43) Al: You’re sure what? (0:32:44) Kev: Yeah, I’m sure there’s a lot of comments. (0:32:46) Kev: Like, it’s so crazy. (0:32:48) Kev: Like, something we didn’t even mention (0:32:52) Kev: is like, on the Steam page, the image next to the title. (0:32:56) Kev: Like, it’s, suppose we’re talking cozy or whatever, (0:32:59) Kev: but like, that looks like an 80s action here, (0:33:01) Kev: a movie poster guy. (0:33:02) Al: Yeah, it really does. (0:33:07) Kev: It’s wild. (0:33:08) Al: It doesn’t look like, it definitely doesn’t look like a rancher, that’s for sure. (0:33:10) Kev: Yeah, yeah, man, this is incredible, because like you said, (0:33:17) Kev: it’s grand theft farming, it really looks like that. (0:33:23) Kev: Cuz it’s nothing here looks like your typical cozy stuff. (0:33:31) Kev: And it’s new ideas, stuff that we don’t see normally and so on and so forth or (0:33:37) Kev: whatever, but it’s it’s just (0:33:40) Kev: I guess it’s just the context like this isn’t what you’d expect. (0:33:44) Kev: Um… (0:33:46) Al: This is the thing, it’s a balance, right? (0:33:47) Al: You will either love this because it’s doing something different or you’ll (0:33:51) Al: hate it because it’s not a cosy feature. (0:33:56) Al: But I kind of love that you can like just steal crops from the other townspeople. (0:34:02) Al: Like that, I kind of like that. (0:34:04) Al: Like I wouldn’t want, I don’t think I’d want that in Stardew. (0:34:06) Al: But like, how many times have you gone, you’d seen someone with crops outside (0:34:11) Al: their house and gone, “Oh, I wish I could just get them.” (0:34:14) Kev: Yeah, that is kind of fun. You’re right. You’re right. I like this concept, too (0:34:19) Al: I don’t know whether this will make it a fun game or not, but I am all in on seeing. (0:34:21) Kev: Um (0:34:23) Kev: I don’t either (0:34:27) Al: Let’s see, why not? (0:34:28) Kev: They’ve they’ve caught our attention they’ve caught our attention i’ll see i’ll say that. Um (0:34:29) Al: What’s the worst that happens? (0:34:31) Al: Yeah, for sure. (0:34:37) Kev: it’s it’s (0:34:39) Kev: Uh, yeah, um, I don’t know i’m excited to see more of this (0:34:41) Al: we will keep an eye on it and uh oh I mean I feel like i’ll definitely (0:34:50) Kev: Oh, oh, I’m I (0:34:55) Al: All right, and our final piece of news, our final piece of news is, my time at Sandrock (0:34:56) Kev: Feel like we have hops and robs (0:35:04) Al: have released a set of chibi figurines. (0:35:10) Kev: Yeah, they’re fine. (0:35:12) Kev: The figures are cute. (0:35:13) Kev: I’ll say that. (0:35:14) Kev: I’ll give them that. (0:35:14) Al: I don’t care about the characters, so it’s not like I’m going to buy them, but yeah. (0:35:18) Kev: Oh yeah, I don’t either. (0:35:20) Kev: Just say they’re cute quality. (0:35:21) Al: Yeah. (0:35:21) Kev: I don’t know what these people are or anything. (0:35:24) Al: Yeah, I would buy these if these were stardew characters. (0:35:24) Kev: I have no investment. (0:35:28) Kev: Oh, you know, I’m shocked that (0:35:31) Kev: Concerned Dave has never done that. (0:35:32) Kev: Like I feel there’s a gold mine to be made. (0:35:35) Al: like it’s a lot of effort to put into these things right and he made enough money with the game that (0:35:42) Kev: Yeah, yeah, I guess I guess that’s it. I guess that’s it, but you know (0:35:42) Al: he doesn’t need to whereas with like the the concert I feel like is something that he really (0:35:52) Al: wanted to do he made a joke in (0:35:53) Kev: Oh, yeah, clearly yeah, that is one thing concerned a but everything he does he does it cuz he cares (0:36:00) Al: in the the pamphlet for I can’t remember what it’s called like the leaflet thing that you get at (0:36:05) Al: the concert it says um the program yeah he made a joke in it that he used to be uh I can’t remember (0:36:14) Al: the exact wording but basically he used to be a musician that was his thing um but he couldn’t (0:36:19) Al: get anyone to buy his music and all he needed to do was make a very successful game for people to (0:36:23) Al: like his music that was it (0:36:25) Kev: That’s what it was all about, that was the long con, I love that, what a giga-chat move. (0:36:31) Kev: I’m going to make a successful video game, like genre-defining game, just so people can (0:36:35) Al: there you go all right that’s the news we are now gonna go into our second harvest of (0:36:39) Kev: buy my music. (0:36:47) Al: helikity island adventure so just for context I played this for a couple weeks when it first (0:36:54) Al: came out on ios and ipad os apple arcade that’s where it was it came out in apple arcade um (0:37:02) Al: play that on my iPad because I don’t have an iPhone. (0:37:06) Al: And I thought it was a really fun game, but I really hated using the touchscreen controls for it. (0:37:13) Al: So I was really excited to play it, not on a touchscreen. You obviously did not play it (0:37:19) Al: when it came out in Apple Arcade, but you were excited to play it. (0:37:22) Kev: I’ve never owned an Apple device in my life. (0:37:25) Kev: Very much so, because it looks wild, and guess what it is wild? (0:37:30) Al: I bought it on Steam, been playing on my Steam Deck, you bought it on Switch, (0:37:34) Al: and you’ve been playing on your switch. (0:37:35) Al: I guess, do we even need to do a quick intro to this game? (0:37:36) Kev: Yep, that’s correct. (0:37:40) Al: I feel like we don’t, because I feel like people know what this game is, (0:37:43) Al: because it’s been so in the news everywhere, right? (0:37:44) Kev: well you’re right it’s okay so well first of all it’s been a minute since (0:37:49) Al: How would you describe it then after having played it a little? (0:37:52) Kev: yeah I i will because I think it has been in the news but it’s also been a (0:37:55) Kev: minute since you know uh the the original episode of (0:37:59) Kev: maddie um so i’ll i’ll look (0:38:00) Al: you know the number of people that i’ve seen who make it who clearly don’t know that this was (0:38:04) Al: released before they’re like oh there’s a new game and it’s like well it’s just right go for (0:38:06) Kev: yeah yeah how about that yeah (0:38:11) Al: it then describe describe it because obviously I was on the previous episode you were not uh so tell (0:38:15) Kev: right (0:38:16) Al: me how you would describe this game having now played it for a bit (0:38:19) Kev: okay so like I think the biggest or easiest comparison point is animal (0:38:26) Kev: crossing new horizons because joker shocker I know (0:38:27) Al: - What? (laughs) (0:38:33) Kev: guess what you’ve got crafting you’ve got a house with furniture you’ve got (0:38:36) Kev: clothing you’ve got friend and neighbors and (0:38:39) Kev: villagers that you can gift things to shockers (0:38:42) Kev: But, it’s all San Río. (0:38:44) Kev: So, you got Hello Kitty and all the characters and whatnot, right? (0:38:49) Kev: Now, with that said, it is a bit more dynamic than Animal Crossing because you are climbing mountains, you’re diving into the ocean, (0:39:01) Kev: you’re, uh, there’s little mini-games and ruins to explore. (0:39:08) Kev: So, you’ve got this open-world island to explore while collecting stuff and– (0:39:14) Kev: catching critters and all this stuff. (0:39:16) Kev: Um, so yeah, so take one part Animal Crossing, one part San Río, and one part, maybe Breath of the Wild ‘cause they understand when we all start. (0:39:25) Al: So this is the thing, I jokingly said Breath of the Wild to people on Slack, but the more (0:39:31) Al: I think about it, the more I actually don’t think that’s a joke. It’s obviously not as (0:39:37) Al: big and as expansive and whatever, but the exploring feels so good. And let me tell you, (0:39:39) Kev: right (0:39:41) Kev: There’s no combat (0:39:48) Al: it feels so much better being able to play with a controller than using the touchscreen, (0:39:52) Al: But, like, that has not changed. (0:39:55) Al: It’s not changed since the first time I’ve done it, just the idea of being able to go like, “Oh, there’s a hill, there’s a volcano there, let me climb that volcano,” and you can just figure out how to do it, even though you know you’re not really meant to be going there yet, right? (0:40:09) Kev: Yeah (0:40:09) Al: Like, you’ve not progressed the story to that point, but you can just make it work. (0:40:11) Kev: What I wanted to Ritsuko was up there, I really wanted to clivet volcano (0:40:17) Al: And you can, and this is the thing, it’s designed in such a way that, like, you have a stamina bar, and, like, you can’t just climb straight up forever. (0:40:25) Al: There’s little ledges, and there’s, like, other things you can climb up on, and you can rest, and you can get anywhere you want to if you really want to. (0:40:26) Kev: Yeah, but if you look yep (0:40:33) Kev: Yup pretty much right like sometimes it’s real hard like sometimes it’s challenging (0:40:39) Kev: But if you try you get you really scrape and look for you can find a way (0:40:46) Al: You know the meme, this is why I don’t do X anymore, there’s too many sweats. (0:40:46) Kev: Yeah (0:40:50) Al: I feel like that, but with this, right? (0:40:50) Kev: Yeah (0:40:52) Al: This is why I don’t play Hello Kitty anymore, there are too many sweats. (0:40:59) Kev: Okay, so um and okay, and so of course the game like it begins with as (0:41:06) Kev: So you’ve lauded so many times Alan rightfully, so it begins with jumping out of a plane (0:41:13) Al: And a snake, a snake’s on a plane reference. (0:41:15) Kev: Everyone’s a (0:41:17) Kev: Snakes on a plane reference (0:41:20) Kev: there (0:41:21) Kev: Okay, so we you know remember you describing that you’ve told me that before and (0:41:26) Kev: You know I thought that was wild but then I when I played it the the crazy part to me is there was no (0:41:32) Kev: actual reason to jump from (0:41:35) Kev: there was I’ve been shooting out a lot of cake and I (0:41:40) Kev: Don’t know well inconvenient. I don’t think (0:41:40) Al: just gets fed up and says ‘I’m fed up of these cakes on this plane’ and then just jumps out the plane. (0:41:46) Kev: And everyone’s like all right, we’re going let’s do it. We’re falling (0:41:48) Al: Yeah, yeah. That’s the weirdest bit. Is it like, ‘Okay, fine. I bet. Let’s do this.’ (0:41:55) Kev: uh oh my gosh oh so yeah that that’s our premise um I i like that little intro (0:42:02) Al: I just thought you go up, you go up to, you go up to Hello Kitty and she’s like, “Oh, (0:42:08) Al: here are some balloons. (0:42:09) Al: Trust me.” (0:42:10) Al: And you’re like, “Do I, do I trust you with balloons?” (0:42:14) Al: Well, yeah, no. (0:42:16) Kev: well it worked also you get a diving like air skydiving minigame which go (0:42:22) Kev: through the rings I don’t even know if they get you anything but or if you ever (0:42:24) Al: I don’t know, I don’t think, I don’t know if you do ever do that again, obviously you (0:42:26) Kev: do that again (0:42:29) Al: use the balloons again, right, like you can jump off things and use the balloons, but (0:42:33) Al: I don’t think that minigame type thing is ever in the game again, I don’t know, I mean (0:42:39) Al: I’ve not finished it, so maybe there is a time, but yeah, it’s really weird. (0:42:44) Kev: And you go through rings, but I don’t remember getting anything for going through there (0:42:50) Al: to get satisfaction of having gone through the rings. (0:42:53) Kev: Yeah, yeah, that’s pretty much and then you know, that’s fine (0:42:57) Kev: Okay, so (0:43:00) Kev: First okay one of the actually before you jump off the plane you design your character (0:43:05) Kev: And I love the freedom in that because you can be because we’re talking Sanrio, right? (0:43:11) Kev: So we’ve got all the different critters and animals and you can (0:43:14) Kev: be pretty much anyone you want. I think the options for customizing is pretty fun. What (0:43:21) Kev: was your little avatar? A dog? Yeah. Styles, breeds or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, like you can (0:43:23) Al: Yeah I’m a dog but yeah I like it they’ve got like I think it’s like eight different animals and then within the animals they’ve got different face shapes and they’re like dramatically different styles of them and then yeah you can like change your bunch of other stuff. (0:43:42) Kev: be a bird, and in the birds, you can be a bird. (0:43:44) Kev: I’m a penguin, or like a falcon, or blue jay, or whatever. (0:43:47) Kev: Mine looks like a blue jay, basically. (0:43:49) Kev: I got a little pen that looks like a blue jay in the shape of that. (0:43:52) Al: I chose the fattest dog that existed in the list, I couldn’t really describe what type (0:43:59) Al: of dog it looked like, but yeah, it was just the chubbiest, comfiest looking dog. (0:44:02) Kev: Yeah, yeah, the wall like a brick house (0:44:08) Kev: Yeah, like that’s a good one (0:44:11) Kev: So, um, you know, I think I should (0:44:16) Kev: Before continuing I should declare I don’t know Sanrio very well to be quite Frank (0:44:21) Kev: I know Hello Kitty because one of the most iconic (0:44:22) Al: Me neither. (0:44:26) Kev: Characters ever created right dominates Japan (0:44:30) Kev: But I don’t know the (0:44:32) Kev: rest of the cast that well. So this is my first venture into the Senri universe. (0:44:36) Kev: I knew Agritsuko because her anime was pretty popular. I didn’t watch it, but I (0:44:41) Kev: knew the character. And I love how she’s treated as the the kind of the outsider. (0:44:48) Kev: Everyone else is friends, but she doesn’t know anyone. That was kind of cute. But (0:44:53) Kev: yeah, it’s been fun to meet all these characters. Bompurin is the best. I’m a (0:45:02) Kev: Bompurin. Yeah, the carapace is pretty cute. He’s pretty fun. (0:45:07) Kev: But it’s Meru. He’s the one who was tired of the cakes and jumped off the (0:45:12) Kev: plane. So you know, there you go. I think that sums him. Oh yeah, yeah, he’s a big (0:45:12) Al: Yeah. And a big comic guy. A big comic guy as well. (0:45:21) Kev: comic guy. Both like he likes jokes and the actual comics. So yeah, so he got all (0:45:29) Kev: that, um, so I played (0:45:32) Kev: the game for about a week, not even a full week. (0:45:34) Kev: I got it on Monday, I think it was, um, yeah. (0:45:38) Al: something like that. Yeah. Yeah. I think Monday, yeah. (0:45:40) Kev: Uh, so it, uh, like, I mean, I really enjoyed the game because, but also I feel (0:45:48) Kev: like there’s still so much for me to do, um, because the game is quest driven, right? (0:45:55) Kev: Like you’re, you’re, you’re going around your, you have to complete quests for (0:45:58) Kev: people, gathering things, crafting things, so on and so finding things. (0:46:02) Kev: Um, and that’s kind of what progresses. (0:46:05) Kev: Not just the quote unquote story, but all the features, right? (0:46:08) Kev: Like it’s not like animal crossing where you just wait for the shovel to show up (0:46:12) Kev: in Tom look store to buy it. (0:46:14) Kev: You have to complete a quest to unlock a fishing rod, the net, whatever. (0:46:18) Al: Oh, and quests is the game, like this, if you don’t like quests, if you don’t like (0:46:19) Kev: » Yeah. (0:46:23) Al: fetch quests, this is not the game for you, like everything is a quest. (0:46:26) Kev: - Yeah, yup. (0:46:27) Kev: Yup. (0:46:27) Al: But that means that I remember, I’m sure I talked about this last time, but I need to (0:46:31) Al: bring it up again. (0:46:32) Al: The quest system in this is so good. (0:46:35) Al: Like as someone who loves quests and loves lists of quests, it’s absolutely good. (0:46:40) Al: Not only does it show you every quest that you’ve ever done, and every quest that you (0:46:44) Al: currently have that you can do. (0:46:46) Al: It also shows you future quests and what you need (0:46:48) Al: to do to get them. It’s great, because everything is based on friendship levels and gifting (0:46:50) Kev: Yep, that is pretty solid. (0:46:55) Al: things to the other villagers, blah, blah, blah. And so it’s like, oh, to get this quest, (0:47:00) Al: you need to talk to this person, or you need to get this person to friendship level four. (0:47:05) Al: And it’s just like, it’s so good. And it can be a little bit overwhelming, especially at (0:47:08) Al: the beginning, when you go from one or two things to do, to suddenly you have a list (0:47:12) Al: of 10 things, but you can pick and choose and you don’t need to go quickly. (0:47:14) Kev: Y

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