Podcasts about secular work

In this episode, Mike Linch discusses the insights from his conversation with Jordan Rayner, focusing on the intersection of faith and work. They explore the concept of 'The Sacredness of Secular Work,' the challenges of feeling inadequate in one's faith, and the importance of finding purpose in one's job beyond just career success. The conversation emphasizes the need for leaders to recognize their role in ministry, regardless of their professional title, and encourages listeners to embrace their unique callings.

For this episode, we have one of our favorite guests: Jordan Raynor.On a previous episode, we had a blast talking with him about his last bestselling book, Redeeming Your Time. Be sure to go back and listen to that episode. What was impressive about that book was how, even though very practical, it was so clearly written on a strong biblical foundation.His latest book is The Sacredness of Secular Work: 4 Ways Your Job Matters for Eternity (Even When You're Not Sharing the Gospel) (Waterbrook Press, 2024)Here at Reintegrate, I often discuss overcoming the false dualism between the sacred and the secular. I love how Jordan Raynor plays with those words in the title. We might want to call it “secular work,” but God calls the work of normal everyday workers, not just overseas missionaries or pastors, sacred work.Scroll down to learn more about Jordan Raynor.Subscribe to the podcast on your favorite app:Thanks for listening!Please share this podcast with your friends. Your hosts are Dr. Bob Robinson and David Loughney. For further resources on reintegrating all of life with God's mission, go to re-integrate.org.Jordan RaynorJordan Raynor's other books that help us reintegrate faith and work include Redeeming Your Time: 7 Biblical Principles for Being Purposeful, Present, and Wildly Productive, Master of One: Find and Focus on the Work You Were Created to Do and Called to Create: A Biblical Invitation to Create, Innovate, and Risk.He has also written two children's books (The Royal You, and The Creator in You) and a weekday devotional (The Word Before Work).Jordan's books can be purchased from independent booksellers Byron and Beth Borger at Hearts & Minds Bookstore. Go to their secure order form, mention you heard about Sarah's books on the Reintegrate Podcast, and receive 20% off your order! If you have questions or need more information, contact Byron here. Or call Beth and Byron at 717-246-3333.Be sure to check out Jordan's fascinating podcast, Mere Christians, where he interviews people from a wide variety of vocations about how they reintegrate faith and work.Jordan lives in Tampa, Florida, with his wife and their three young daughters. Get full access to Bob Robinson's Substack at bobrobinsonre.substack.com/subscribe

For this episode, we have one of our favorite guests: Jordan Raynor. On a previous episode, we had a blast talking with him about his last bestselling book, Redeeming Your Time. Be sure to go back and listen to that episode. What was impressive about that book was how, even though very practical, it was so clearly written on a strong biblical foundation.His latest book is The Sacredness of Secular Work: 4 Ways Your Job Matters for Eternity (Even When You're Not Sharing the Gospel) (Waterbrook Press, 2024)Here at Reintegrate, I often discuss overcoming the false dualism between the sacred and the secular. I love how Jordan Raynor plays with those words in the title. We might want to call it “secular work,” but God calls the work of normal everyday workers, not just overseas missionaries or pastors, sacred work. Scroll down to learn more about Jordan Raynor.Subscribe to the podcast on your favorite app:Thanks for listening!Please share this podcast with your friends. Your hosts are Dr. Bob Robinson and David Loughney. For further resources on reintegrating all of life with God's mission, go to re-integrate.org.Jordan RaynorJordan Raynor's other books that help us reintegrate faith and work include Redeeming Your Time: 7 Biblical Principles for Being Purposeful, Present, and Wildly Productive, Master of One: Find and Focus on the Work You Were Created to Do and Called to Create: A Biblical Invitation to Create, Innovate, and Risk.He has also written two children's books (The Royal You, and The Creator in You) and a weekday devotional (The Word Before Work).Jordan's books can be purchased from independent booksellers Byron and Beth Borger at Hearts & Minds Bookstore. Go to their secure order form, mention you heard about Sarah's books on the Reintegrate Podcast, and receive 20% off your order! If you have questions or need more information, contact Byron here. Or call Beth and Byron at 717-246-3333.Be sure to check out Jordan's fascinating podcast, Mere Christians, where he interviews people from a wide variety of vocations about how they reintegrate faith and work.Jordan lives in Tampa, Florida, with his wife and their three young daughters. Get full access to Bob Robinson's Substack at bobrobinsonre.substack.com/subscribe

In this episode, the More Than Roommates team tackles the tension between work and marriage, offering practical and biblical wisdom on balancing career, family, and faith. They unpack how motives, identity, communication, and expectations shape how couples navigate work's impact on their marriage and family.Scriptures:Gen 2:7-9Eph 2:10Col 3:231 Cor 10:311 Peter 3:7 Resources:Podcast - More Than Roommates, Episode 82 - How Does Work Affect Your Marriage? (feat. Jordan Raynor)Book – When Work and Family Collide, by Andy StanleyBook - The Sacredness of Secular Work: 4 Ways Your Job Matters for Eternity (Even When You're Not Sharing the Gospel), by Jordan Raynor Questions to Discuss:1. What was your first job growing up and as an adult?2. What's your motive in how hard or how much you work?3. How would you describe your attitude toward work right now—grateful, resentful, anxious, driven?4. Do you view each other's work—whether inside or outside the home—as equally valuable? How can you better honor one another's contributions?

255. Redeeming Our Time with Jordan Raynor   “But as for you, be strong and do not lose courage, for there is reward for your work.” 2 Chronicles 15:7 AMP   **Transcription Below**   Jordan Raynor is a leading voice of the faith and work movement. Through his bestselling books (The Sacredness of Secular Work, Redeeming Your Time, The Creator in You, and The Royal in You.), keynote speeches, podcasts, and devotionals, Jordan has helped millions of Christians in every country on earth connect the gospel to their work.    In addition to his writing and speaking, Jordan serves as the Executive Chairman of Threshold 360, a venture-backed tech startup which Jordan previously ran as CEO following a string of successful ventures of his own.    Questions and Topics We Cover: 1. What does it look like, practically, to live on earth as it is in Heaven? 2. From your time studying of the Bible, do you find a difference in how our call to work applies to both men and women?  3. What are some ways we can pass along this wisdom to our children?   Other Episode Mentioned from The Savvy Sauce: Stewarding Technology for More Intentional Relationships  with Joey Odom Related Episodes on The Savvy Sauce: Being Intentional with Marriage, Parenting, Rest, Personal development, and Leadership with Pastor, Podcaster, and Author, Jeff Henderson Practical Life Tips with Blogger, Rach Kincaid Implementing Bite-Size Habits That Will Change Your Life with Author, Blogger, Podcaster, and Speaker, Kat Lee Fruitful with Laura Dugger Ordering Your Priorities with Kat Lee Living Intentionally with Shunta Grant Cultivate What Matters in 2021 with Emily Thomas Rhythms of Renewal with Gabe and Rebekah Lyons Divine Productivity with Matt Perman Why Limits Are Good For Us with Kelly Kapic   Thank You to Our Sponsor:  Sam Leman Eureka   Connect with The Savvy Sauce Our Website, Instagram or Facebook    Please help us out by sharing this episode with a friend, leaving a 5-star rating and review, and subscribing to this podcast!   Gospel Scripture: (all NIV)   Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,”   Romans 3:24 “and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.”   Romans 3:25 (a) “God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood.”    Hebrews 9:22 (b) “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.”    Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”    Romans 5:11 “Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.”    John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”   Romans 10:9 “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.”    Luke 15:10 says “In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”   Romans 8:1 “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus”   Ephesians 1:13–14 “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession- to the praise of his glory.”   Ephesians 1:15–23 “For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.”   Ephesians 2:8–10 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God‘s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. Ephesians 2:13 “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.“   Philippians 1:6 “being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.”   **Transcription**   [00:00:00]   Laura Dugger: Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, where we have practical chats for intentional living. I'm your host Laura Dugger, and I'm so glad you're here.    [00:00:18]   Laura Dugger: The principles of honesty and integrity that Sam Leman founded his business on continue today over 55 years later at Sam Leman Chevrolet Eureka. Owned and operated by the Bertschi family, Sam Leman in Eureka appreciates the support they've received from their customers all over central Illinois and beyond. Visit them today at Lemangm.com.    I am pleased to get to introduce you to my guest, author, speaker, entrepreneur, Jesus lover, and family man, Jordan Raynor. We're going to discuss what God's word has to say about topics such as the afterlife and then what that means now for how we spend our time and what work we get to do both as men and women.   Jordan is a content producer and much of our conversation today is a follow-up to one of his books entitled, Redeeming Your Time: 7 Biblical Principles for Being Purposeful, Present, and Wildly Productive. [00:01:31]    Here's our chat.    Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, Jordan.   Jordan Raynor: Laura, it's great to be here. Thanks for having me.   Laura Dugger: Well, it is truly my pleasure. I'd love just to begin here. How did you find your way into the work that you get to do today?   Jordan Raynor: I spent the majority of my career as a tech entrepreneur. I still have a foot in that world as executive chairman of the last company that I ran, but I spent 10 years full-time as a tech startup CEO.    I was in the process of exiting my second company when this kind of all started for me. So, you know, when you sell two companies, the natural thing to do is go start a third. So that was kind of the plan.    But for a hot minute there, my wife and I were really seriously thinking about planting a church. Why? Because I went to church often feeling this guilt that I think a lot of believers have felt of, Man, how dare I want to go to work and build a business tomorrow when there's a need for people to serve as pastors and move to mud huts 5,000 miles away from home to make disciples. [00:02:39]    So we're praying about these two paths: start another business, plan a church. One week after church, this mentor of mine pulled me aside. He's like, "Hey, I heard you're thinking about planting a church."    And I'm thinking this guy's going to pat me on the back, maybe write me my first check. He just looks me dead in the eyes, is like, "Yeah, I got to be honest, it sounds really dumb for you." Like, personally, I was like, "Oh, okay. Tell me more." He's like, "Listen, Jordan, you're a talented entrepreneur. You've served your customers and your team members and your investors with excellence. Why do you think you have to plant a church to do ministry? Don't you get that your work as an entrepreneur is ministry?"   I was like, "Yeah, no, I get it. I build these companies so I can write big checks to the missionaries, picture on my refrigerator, or share the gospel with my team members." He's like, "Yeah, but like so much more than that." I was like, "I have no idea what you're talking about."    So he's like, "Here's what I want you to do with this conversation, the background of your mind, I want you to read Genesis one and two." [00:03:39] And I'm thinking, "I've read Genesis one, two, five hundred times. What am I going to say? It's new."   But Laura, what I saw changed my life forever. I saw that before God tells us that He is loving or holy or omnipotent, He tells us that He is a God who works and creates. It's literally the first verb in the Bible. It's the only thing we know about God's character until Genesis 1:26, well, God says, let us make humankind in our image. Why? So that they may rule and work like God did long before the great commission to make disciples.    In Genesis 1, we see this first commission that God never once retracts for you and I to make culture. And that just stopped me dead in my tracks. So long story short, I did not go plant a church. I went and ran somebody else's company. But it set me on this search to really understand how the church's theology of work has gotten so, so lost. [00:04:38]    And it's led to the work I do today, which is creating a whole lot of content through books and podcasts and whatever, helping Christians understand the biblical story of work and God's plan for work from Genesis 1 all the way to Revelation 22 and respond to that truth in practical ways in how they do their work outside and inside of the home today.   Laura Dugger: Wow. Okay. So definitely want to talk about work, but then even zooming out bigger picture of our time, that some of the content that you've written about, and I'm specifically thinking about redeeming your time. So what would you say, Jordan, is one of your biggest cautions for us to consider, especially as it relates to ways that are culturally acceptable to spend our time, but they're not eternally wise ways to spend our time?   Jordan Raynor: Yeah, it's a really good question. [00:05:36] I think maybe the most significant one though is not where we spend it but how we spend it. I think culture outside of the church largely views time as a means of glorifying self, of pleasing self, of accumulating experiences and leisure.   It's the whole bucket list mentality, right? The purpose of your time now is to do it all because this is your only chance to do everything you want to do. And that's a deeply unbiblical lie that I think is one of Satan's favorites to peddle to believers and non-believers alike.   And so I think as believers, the gospel ought to compel us to not just manage our time for profit and for pleasure, but to redeem the time, as Paul says in Ephesians 5:15-16, to eternal ends, to things that are eternal.    And yes, that means souls, but it means way more than souls. I think a lot of times when we think about eternal uses of our time, we think exclusively in that bucket of evangelism. And Jesus didn't. [00:06:36] In fact, He spent 80% of His adult life swinging a hammer and making excellent tables and chairs. He spent time turning water into good wine and pursuing justice in the world and beauty in the world.    And I think all of that matters to God. I think all of that can be an eternally significant use of our time if, if, and this is the big IF, we're doing all those things with Christ-like love and compassion and excellence and in accordance with God's good and perfect word.   Laura Dugger: I guess you're starting to answer this, but I'm thinking then of the flip side of that question. What would you say are ways that God's will can be done on earth as it is in heaven?   Jordan Raynor: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think that we could spend hours and hours and hours answering that question. I think we got to be clear though on what we mean by that term "heaven". [00:07:35] Because for the first time in church history, for the last 200 or 300 years or so, Christians, when they hear that word heaven, think almost exclusively about the present heaven, this amorphous, disembodied souls floating on clouds, which was not the hope of Jesus, it was not the ultimate hope of the writers of the New Testament.    God did not promise to fit us for heaven to dwell with Him there, as we sing every Christmas. He promised heaven on earth and to dwell with us here. See Revelation 21 and 22. And that's the "on earth" part.   So when we expand our thinking beyond heaven is only this place that disembodied souls go to in the future and we understand heaven as a state of affairs that is breaking into the present — Jesus said the kingdom of heaven is at hand — I think it greatly expands our vision of what it means to work in ways and manage our time in ways where God's will can be done on earth as it is in heaven. [00:08:32]    Yes, that means making disciples as we go about the work that God has given us to do. Yes, it means discipling our kids within our homes. But it also means cultivating beauty in the world. Because Revelation 21 says that when we do, we are scratching off a glimpse of the day when beauty will reign supreme over the face of the earth.   It means doing work with excellence, because Isaiah 60 tells us there are works of cultural excellence present on the new earth, which boggles the minds of many people, right?    So I think the definition is really, really broad of what that means to do our work on earth as it is in heaven. But the key is love. The key is, out of looking at the cross and understanding the love that God has shown us in Christ, letting that love overflow out of our hearts and spill into everything we do, whether we eat or drink or whatever it is that we spend our time doing, to riff off of Paul in 1 Corinthians 10. "Do it all for the glory of God."  [00:09:36]    What's his glory? The perfect love of His Son. When we're modeling that, that's what I think it means to bring heaven to earth, as Jesus calls us to do.   Laura Dugger: Okay, so expand our understanding, though, because I know you've been on a journey learning about heaven here on earth. What are some findings and realizations that you've made as you've studied scripture?   Jordan Raynor: Number one, nobody, including Jesus Christ, is going to spend eternity in heaven. If what we mean by heaven is the present heaven, where, God forbid, if I die in the plane that I'm about to go on tonight, I will be with Jesus in the present heaven. Nobody's going to spend eternity in that heaven. Read Revelation 21, read Isaiah 60 through 65, it makes that abundantly clear.    Number two, contrary to our American caricature of heaven as a glorified retirement home, Isaiah 65 says, starting in verse 17, God says, "See, I'll create new heavens and a new earth. My chosen people will build houses and dwell in them, and they will long enjoy the work of their hands." [00:10:39]    So, number one, nobody's going to spend eternity in heaven. Number two, on the new earth, we will worship by singing yes, but also by working with our hands alongside the risen Christ. And then I would say, you know, number three, I think what I'm learning more and more is we tend to think of heaven exclusively as a place that we go to in the future. And that is true in a sense, right?    But it's also, as I said before, this state of affairs that's relevant and breaking into the present, breaking into our homes, breaking into our communities. The good news of the gospel is not that I sit around and wait to go to heaven when I die. The good news of the gospel is that I get to partner with Jesus in cultivating heaven on earth until I die, and He returns with heaven in hand to finish the work, right? [00:11:36]    So I think as we expand our vision beyond these half-truths about heaven that secular and, frankly, church culture have been peddling for years, with the whole truths that we see in Scripture, it vastly expands our purpose in the present as we seek to redeem our time. And I also think it expands our hope for the future, because a future with Christ where He has truly made all things new and I get to long enjoy the work of my hands with Him is way more exciting to me, and way more importantly, way more biblical than endless harps and hammocks in the clouds. Way more exciting.   Laura Dugger: Absolutely. And then if you'd have to say what that means for us now, like on a regular Thursday afternoon, can you make it really practical?    Jordan Raynor: Yeah. I think it means, number one, you can have a whole lot more purpose in your work and feel much more alive doing the work, whether that's changing diapers or making widgets on your computer. [00:12:37] Because, listen, if earth is our temporary home, as Carrie Underwood likes to say — I love you, Carrie Underwood. I do — then matter doesn't matter, right? Like matter doesn't matter. And my work with matter doesn't matter.   And if that's true, less than 1% of my time matters for eternity. Because I'm willing to bet that our listeners spend less than 1% of their time on spiritual work like evangelism and prayer. But if earth will one day be our perfect and permanent home, then matter has to matter greatly to God. And my spiritual and super material and earthly work has to matter. And if that's true, then 100% of my time matters for eternity. And so what's the response?   I love that you brought up redeeming your time. Redeeming your time is the response. If 100% of my time matters for eternity, I have greater hope for the future, I have greater purpose in the present, and I'm much more motivated to redeem all of my time, to look at every single one of my minutes that I have living in this age as opportunities to glorify God and make things matter in the grand scheme of eternity because I understand that it does matter, and it's not all going to burn up in the end. [00:13:46]    So that's one of the practical responses. We can get uber, uber practical, talking about redeeming your time and how exactly to do that. But at a theological level, if you hold to this idea that earth is our temporary home, you're really saying that 99.9% of your time doesn't matter in the grand scheme of eternity. That's deeply depressing. And praise God, it's also deeply unbiblical.   Laura Dugger: Okay. So a few follow-up questions with that then as well. So all of this matters and is eternally valuable and valuable in this moment. What about our choices then where you could be numbing out on Netflix all night or Instagram or whatever social media, or pouring excellence into the work that you're doing or your family or something more significant. What's the difference between those two options if everything matters?   Jordan Raynor: Everything has the opportunity to matter. Everything matters in the sense that God's going to judge every minute that we spend. [00:14:48] But listen, you could have two people with the exact same job, exact same stage of life, and one of them is wasting it in the grand scheme of eternity.   It matters in the sense that God's going to count it. But we can certainly make our lives matter more for eternity based on how we steward those minutes. Christians have lost this doctrine that Paul makes very clear that every single minute we spend in this life will be judged. Our soul will not be judged. Our soul has been judged (past tense) based on what Christ did on the cross. Praise God, there's no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.   But every believer will stand before the beam of seed of judgment to give an account for how we live this life. And those of us who wasted this life binging Netflix infinitely, you're still going to enter the kingdom of heaven if you were trusting in Christ alone for the forgiveness of your sins. But don't expect a whole lot of rewards when you show up there, right?   The ones who are going to be awarded with treasures in heaven that Jesus talked about, with crowns, with increased job responsibilities on the new earth, see the parable of the minas, are those of us who, like Paul, expended ourselves, spent with all the energy we have to make Christ known in what we make and how we do it and how we live our lives and how we do our work. [00:16:01] That's a response, is to get off of the couch and to get in the game of scratching off glimpses of heaven on earth in the present.   Laura Dugger: I love that. Yes and amen. Somebody previously on The Savvy Sauce called me spicy for asking questions like this. I don't intend it in a controversial way.   Jordan Raynor: Listen, if we're not going to talk about these things, why talk about anything at all? I love spicy questions. Come on.   Laura Dugger: Okay. So I would just love to hear your perspective, Jordan, especially because you have immersed yourself in the word of God and obviously you have the Spirit of God living inside you as well. So when you've wrestled with these ideas, do you find a difference in how this applies to men and women? And I'm specifically thinking about Genesis and work. And I can ask some more follow-up questions, but what would you say to that?   Jordan Raynor: Oh man, I love this question. [00:17:00] I don't get asked this question very much. Listen, is there a distinction? Sure. But not much of one. Adam and Eve were both called to work the garden and to take care of it as partners together in Genesis 1 and 2.    There are tons of women throughout scripture who are celebrated for their engagement in the first commission to fill the earth, so do it and rule. I think maybe the most poignant of them is Luke chapter 8. Luke chapter 8 says, name specific women who were, quote, "helping to support them —it's referring to Jesus and His disciples — out of their own means," end quote.    And based on what we know about Mary Magdalene and some of these other characters. I don't think they had means before they followed Jesus. So the implication is these women went to work, creating value in the marketplace to support Jesus and His followers. [00:18:00]    So all throughout scripture... I'll give you one more. Gosh. You want a case study that celebrates working women? Just go read the book of Exodus, right? Exodus 1 starts with Pharaoh who's looking around and fearful of these Hebrew boys. Why? Because he wasn't afraid of Hebrew girls because they represented no threat to him, right? He's like, Ah, no, it's the boys who are going to rise up and fight against me.    But who does Yahweh use to thwart Pharaoh's plans? Two midwives, working professionals, and a whole bunch of other women all throughout the book of Exodus. If you can't tell, I'm a raging Jesus feminist with three daughters under my roof right now. And so I love that you asked this question.   There are certainly distinctions. And listen, we got to be careful here. There are differences in genders. God-appointed gender. God appointed differences in leadership within the home and within the church, right, which is not popular outside of the church. [00:19:01] But I can't get around God's word here. But both men and women are called all throughout scripture to roll up them sleeves and work hard at the work of the Lord of cultivating creation for His glory and the good of others.   Laura Dugger: And now a brief message from our sponsor.    [00:19:21]   Sponsor: Sam Leman Chevrolet in Eureka has been owned and operated by the Bertschi family for over 25 years. 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So come see for yourself at Sam Leman in Chevrolet in Eureka. Sam and Stephen would love to see you, and they appreciate your business.    Learn more at their website, LemanEureka.com, or visit them on Facebook by searching for Sam Leman Eureka. You can also call them at (309) 467-2351. Thanks for your sponsorship.    [00:20:42]   Laura Dugger: I think something I've been wrestling with lately is I wonder what lies Satan is whispering that we're not even aware of. And I think one piece is that it's sinful or unbiblical for women to work, especially to work outside the home. And I know God has a different call on everyone's life. But yeah, could you speak to that? We have four daughters. You have three daughters. This is-   Jordan Raynor: Oh my gosh, if I'm Satan, if I'm Satan, I would love nothing more than to convince 50% of the image of God not to bear God's image outside of the four walls of my home. That sounds like a pretty good strategy. That sounds like a killer strategy, right?   And listen, don't take my opinion for it. Don't take Laura's opinion for it. Go read the Word. I think when you open up God's Word, you're going to see that a lot of these... it's going to expose the lies. [00:21:43] By the way, Satan doesn't just peddle lies through nonbelievers. Just as frequently, I think we could say, Satan is peddling lies through well-intentioned believers. Lies about heaven and the new earth that we just talked about. Lies about work that I grew up believing as we talked about in the beginning of this. And I think lies about the role that women can joyfully and enthusiastically play working inside and outside the home for God's glory and the good of others.   Laura Dugger: So well said. I just completely agree that it's a both-and. They think some people are called inside the home and that is a worthy work, and some are not.   Jordan Raynor: 100%. By the way, my wife works full-time in the home. That is a noble calling that she's chosen for this season. And I'm so appreciative of that. But there have been other seasons where she hasn't chosen that. Blessed be the name of the Lord.   We're so obsessed with black... we're all Pharisees. [00:22:45] We love adding extra regulations and rules on top of God's Word, this extra-biblical junk to make ourselves feel superior to one another. And I think when we get back to the Word, we find a lot more freedom than we find in our churches and our pharisaical structures.   Laura Dugger: Okay, so then you and your wife, I'd love to hear the ages of your daughters and how you two are engaging with them and teaching or discipling them on topics like this.   Jordan Raynor: I've been married to Kara for 15 years now. She's the love of my life. I love her dearly. And we got three little girls. So Ellison is 10, Kate is 8, and Emery, we adopted at birth almost five years ago. It'll be five years, one month from today.   And yeah, discipling them is a challenge and a joy. I think the hardest part is just redeeming the time and making space for intentional time with them. [00:23:50] And we can talk about how we do that if you're interested.   But, you know, practically what discipleship looks like in our home is every morning around the breakfast table, I'm there with the girls memorizing God's word. And not just memorize it, but really talking about it. So take it a week, right? It's like, okay, we love because He first loved us. Who's He? What does that mean? How did Christ show that love to us? And what does it look like practically for us to show that love to others?   So scripture memorization and discussion of the scriptures is a big part of it. Don't hear me saying we do family devotionals. We don't. We're not that put together. We're not that formal. It's really just taking a passage of scripture and hiding it in their hearts and trying to make it as practical and actionable for the day as possible.   Then, two, we talk with our kids a lot. As much as we can, we are pointing them to God and His goodness in regular conversations. It may be specific studies. I'm writing books for kids. So I wrote a book called The Creator in You about the call to create that we see in Genesis 1. [00:24:51] I'm about to publish a second one called The Royal in You about ruling and working with Jesus on the new earth. So we're constantly talking about those themes.    And then also looking for really tactical physical things within the house to point them to Jesus. I'll give one example, then I'll shut up, and or you can follow up on anything you want. I was really convicted by a friend and again, this is at the risk of sounding pharisaical. I'm not saying this is a rule you got to do. This is just working for my family.   I said the word "awesome" like three times in a conversation. He's like, "Hey, only God is awesome." It really stopped me and maybe take stock of my words. I'm like, "Man, there should be a word awesome, amazing, whatever you want, right, whatever works for you works, but there should be a word that we reserve for God alone, right? Even holy. We talk about us being holy as God is holy, right?    And so we just decided we're going to reserve "awesome" for God. [00:25:50] And we put a jar, kind of like a swear jar in people's houses. We put a “not awesome” jar in the middle of our living room. And every time somebody says something's awesome, other than God, we have to put a buck in it. And then we donate that money to an orphanage that we love supporting.   But Laura, that sounds silly and really trivial, but guess what? In the last week, it's given me, I don't know, 15 opportunities to talk about how Jesus is better than any creative thing. Man, I'll do that all day long. I'm constantly looking for little things like that to latch on to, to talk about God's goodness, to talk about His awesomeness, and talk about the role that He's called us to play in bringing heaven to earth.   Laura Dugger: Wow. No, that doesn't sound silly at all. Actually, it just is in line with these themes, intentional in our work, intentional in our time, intentional in our words, and that matters.   Jordan Raynor: I love John Tyson and his book, The Intentional Father. [00:26:54] I'm the overly intentional father. I am too intentional. And that will show up in this conversation, I promise.   Laura Dugger: No, we celebrate that around here for sure. That was kind of my follow-up question you just alluded to, being intentional. Was it with getting time with your daughters? Do you and Kara have a system for that?   Jordan Raynor: Yeah. Yeah, we do. Listen, this isn't going to come as a surprise to anybody listening. Our phones are enemy number one in our fight for deep work that we do in front of the laptop, but also the deep work of discipleship with our kids. And maybe the biggest game changer of my life and discipling my kids is that my kids never, almost never see me on my phone inside of my house. Outside my house for direction, sure.    I track this. I log every day that they see me. The last 90 days, my kids have seen me on my phone one time, inside of my house. [00:27:52] You better believe they know that dad loves them, but more importantly, it gives me more intentional space to be with them without being distracted.    And I know that sounds impossible to listeners. So let me give you five steps for cultivating this. If you want to do this, you're like, man, yeah, I would love to put my phone down for an hour and not think about it. Five steps. It's really simple to do, but it's going to take a lot of courage.    Number one, choose ahead of time when you want to check your texts and emails and asynchronous messages, right? It could be every hour. It could be on a, maybe say it's 10 a.m., 12 p.m., 2 p.m., 4 p.m., 6 p.m. That's it. Whatever.    Step two, build a list of VIPs who will have access to it all times and not just those predetermined times. So my VIPs are my wife, my kids' school, my assistant. It's pretty much it. Step three, pull out your phone and add all of your VIPs to your Favorites list if you're an iOS user or "Your people" list, if you're an Android user, that way, when you use just the basic out-of-the-box, do not disturb settings on your phone, only calls from those people come through. [00:28:57] Not their texts, not their emails, not every Instagram notification of people liking yet another picture of your dog, just phone calls from your VIPs.   Step four, you got to set clear expectations with your VIPs about your new response time. You send them a very simple message like this. I actually give you the template in the Redeeming Your Time book, but this is the gist. "Hey, I'm trying to be more focused with my kids at home." I know by the way, also at work, especially if you're sending this to your boss. "Here's how you can help me from now on. I'm only checking emails, texts, etc., at X, Y, and Z times. However, you're a VIP in my life. And so if you need me more urgently than that, do not text me, I won't see it. Don't email me. I won't see it. But if you call me on my cell, I'll answer every single time that I can."   Last step, step five, put your phone away for an hour and a half at a time. When you're with your kids, keep your phone out of sight, out of mind. For mine, I keep it in my master bathroom. It's on "do not disturb". I turn the ringer on. [00:29:58]    And here's what happens. I actually spent two and a half hours apart from my phone at nighttime from 5 to seven 30 p.m. every single night. And functionally what I've done is I've turned my cell phone into a landline, right? If the phone rings, I can go in there and see what VIP is calling and decide whether or not I want to answer it. But in all that other time, I am fully focused on my kids and the conversations I'm having with them about their day.    Laura, it's been a total, total game changer for me and for thousands and thousands of readers of Redeeming Your Time. This is one of 32 practices in the book, and I'm willing to bet it's probably in the top five of reader favorites.   Laura Dugger: Well, and I can see why that's incredible. And I'm curious, Jordan, do you know Joey Odom with Aro?   Jordan Raynor: I know Joey. I talked to Joey yesterday. I love Joey Odom.   Laura Dugger: Okay. He's wonderful. So we will link to an episode that he did on The Savvy Sauce. [00:31:00] If you're looking for more practical ways as well, like you said, putting your phone away, he just can contribute. I think that partners nicely.   Jordan Raynor: Yeah. And if you don't know Aro, go check out the episode. But basically it's an app on your phone. It's also a physical box that you can put the phone in. And it basically gamifies what I just explained.    So instead of me being accountable to care of my kids, I could theoretically share with my friends, "Hey, I spent two and a half hours today apart from my phone. Here's a screenshot of the evidence. I love what Joey and their team are doing. It's incredible.   Laura Dugger: And like you said, this is just one of the helpful suggestions in Redeeming Your Time. My husband and I have both benefited so much from that book.   Jordan Raynor: I love it. Thank you.   Laura Dugger: Well, yes. And thank you. But I'd love for you to walk us through the topics and the questions that we ask ourselves as we metaphorically go floor by floor through the building of intentional living.   Jordan Raynor: Yeah. Yeah. It's a great question. [00:32:00] You're asking about chapter four of the book, where I'm talking about prioritizing our yeses. And we hear about all these different terms when it comes to setting priorities. We talk about mission statements and callings and long-term goal, whatever. I just found it necessary for myself to bake the cake and put it all together. Be like, okay, give me one simple framework for thinking about all these things and how they connect to each other.    And so the metaphor I use in the book is this five-story building where on the fifth floor, the very top of this hotel, whatever you envision this building being is your mission in life that is over everything else. Listen, there are people selling books left and right, helping you discern the mission for your life. I'll let you off the hook for having to buy those. Listen, you didn't make yourself and so you don't get to choose the mission of your life. God does. Here's the mission of your life: to glorify God, period, full stop, right?   Now God in this goodness has given us a lot of freedom to choose the callings on the fourth floor of how we will live out that mission. But that's your mission, right? [00:33:05] So mission, fifth floor; fourth floor, next level down is callings. So I am called right now to be a husband, to be a father, and to be the CEO of Jordan Raynor company and create this content. That's it. I've chosen three callings, right?    The next level down are long-term goals. This is level three of the building, okay? Long-term goals. I am the biggest believer in the world in setting the biggest possible long-term goals, because in my experience, that's what helps me say no. If I have really small goals, I am getting sucked into the thick of thin things every single time.    So I would argue Christ's power should be setting the biggest long-term goals on the planet. By long-term, I'm talking at least a year, more likely three to five years, setting those long-term goals for each of your callings.    Then the next level down are short-term goals, which whatever works for you works. Maybe you want to set goals on a weekly basis, monthly basis. I love the quarterly cadence. [00:34:05] Every three months, looking at my long-term goals and setting quarterly goals that are attached to that.    And then the bottom floor, the first floor of this metaphorical building are what I call projects and actions. This is the tactical stuff. This is your to-do list born out of mission calling, long-term goals, short-term goals.    Okay. What are the specific projects and actions that I need to execute against over the next seven days, over the next quarter to make progress towards those goals? And then, as you know, Laura, there's a secret sixth floor to this building, which it doesn't deserve to be called a floor. It's the basement.    And this is what I call posteriorities. And this might be the most important. This is everything else that falls outside of what's already on my plate professionally and what falls under those short-term goals. Everything else goes into the basement of my mind in this metaphorical building. [00:35:05]    And so in my to-do list app, what I call my commitment tracking system, all of those projects and actions literally go in a separate folder called "Someday" that I only look at every 90 days. Once every 90 days, I look at that, decide if there's anything I want to pull out and work on over the next 90 days. But for the other, what is that, 89 days and a quarter, all of those things are out of sight, out of mind, so that I can fully focus on the work that I believe that God has called me to execute against over the next three months.   Laura Dugger: So good. Again, and these 90 days, let's zoom in on that. We also share a passion for the quarterly time, even the brain science behind it, that your brain can only be reminded and to hang on to a goal for 90 days. What does yours actually look like in these 90 days? Can you give us some examples in your own life of a goal for your calling and then ground floor what that looks like? [00:36:08]    Jordan Raynor: Yeah, I would be happy to. I'll show you some quarterly goals for the family. I got personal and professional short-term goals, quarterly goals. Here's a personal one. I really love the OKR framework, which if you're not familiar with it, Google made this famous, stands for objectives and key results.   So objectives are aspirational. They're the what you want to accomplish. And the key results are measurable and they tell you whether or not you reached the what. So, for example, this quarter, personally, objective. Strengthen my point of view on youth sports and whether or not it is in line with our family's goal to love like Jesus.    This one's going to hit for our audience. I have a feeling. Key result number one: read three credible articles from youth sports advocates and three articles from Detractors. [00:37:10]    Key result number two, post questions on this topic to at least two godly friends who have had their kids in serious youth sports and two who have intentionally chosen not to.    And then key result number three, draft a summary of my point of view on this topic and deliver it to Kara by December 31st.   All right. Let me give you a professional example. In this quarter, yeah, I'll share this, whatever. This is a little inside baseball, but it's fun. I can't say the name of it, but the objective is to sell my first TV show to Netflix or Amazon.    We're currently shopping a project right now. I actually only have one key result for this and it's to get one yes or three nos from A-list actors to agree to play the starring role in this show. So that's how I'll know. That's the progress I'm going to make towards that goal.    So that's just a couple of examples from my life. I obsess over this quote from Bill Gates though. I think this would be helpful for our listeners. [00:38:10] Gates once said that we human beings have the tendency to vastly overestimate what we can accomplish in a short period of time, i.e. a quarter, and vastly underestimate what we can do in a decade with what Eugene Peterson called long obedience in the same direction, right?   So if you take one thing from this conversation on goals, take that from Bill Gates. What you can get done in three months is virtually nothing, right? So set your goals accordingly. But what you can get done in a decade with long obedience in the same direction, you're not doing it, God's doing it through you is incredible.   Laura Dugger: I just wanted to let you know, there are now multiple ways to give when you visit TheSavvySauce.com. We now have a donation button on our website and you can find it under the donate page, which is under the tab entitled Support. Our mailing address is also provided if you would prefer to save us the processing fee and send a check that is tax deductible. [00:39:14]    Either way, you'll be supporting the work of Savvy Sauce charities and helping us continue to reach the nations with the good news of Jesus Christ. Make sure you visit TheSavvySauce.com today. Thanks for your support.   These examples are so helpful. I love practical examples because it helps me envision how to begin applying what I want to put into practice after a conversation like this one. My husband, Mark, and I will oftentimes reflect and look back on times that have been transformational in our lives. Typically, it's from practical application, you have to apply it, that leads to transformation. So, Jordan, will you give us maybe three to five habits or time savers or general best ways to steward our time?   Jordan Raynor: Oh, man, I'd love to. Honestly, the biggest one for me I've already shared, which is just taking control of when you check your messages. I cannot stress that enough. [00:40:19]    Let me give you a couple others. One, you want to do your most exceptional work, you've got to be getting a seven to eight-hour nightly sleep opportunity. The easiest way to practically do it is to just set a consistent bedtime. Most people have a fixed time at which they wake up, so it's simple math, right? Subtract from that, go back eight hours, that's your bedtime.   Gosh, you might not like the science. Trust me, I don't like the science, but the science is settled on this one. Most, 99% of human beings need seven to eight hours of sleep at night. That's a game-changer for me.    Honestly, weekly Sabbath has been a game-changing habit for me and my family that I think has made us much more productive in our goals.    I'll give you another one. Do one new thing at a time. In your work, in your life, you probably have a lot of recurring responsibilities based on work that you've created over the years. [00:41:19] With whatever time you have left over, the worst mistake, in my experience, that you can make is to try to do five new initiatives at once. You do one new thing at a time until it's done, and then when it's done, you move on to the next thing.    I'm trying to think of some other ones from the book. Yeah, I'll say this one. This is one of my favorite practices. It takes two seconds to start, but again, it takes a lot of courage. Quit the news cold turkey and let your friends curate the news for you. Why? How is this connected to time management, people ask me?    It could not be more relevant because all of this external noise is creating a lot of internal noise that blocks your ability to be loving, to think, to be creative, and listen to the voice of God. I know because I was the ultimate news junkie until eight years ago when I quit cold turkey. You know what happened when I quit cold turkey? Nothing. Nothing negative happened. [00:42:21]    What did happen is my friends started telling me about everything that I cared about, voluntarily. They have no idea they're doing this, but they're bringing me this. I spot-check from time to time. I'll go to CNN.com and say, did I really miss anything? Nope. 99% of the news is still totally irrelevant to my life and work. Great. Man, that's been a game-changer for me, Laura.   Laura Dugger: I did love that one about let your friends curate the news for you. Just one other follow-up. I want to circle back to the quarterly. Just as we're talking about practical application, how can someone start doing, if that's their first goal is to maybe plan something quarterly? How do you have a system in place to revisit these things every 90 days and what does that look like?   Jordan Raynor: That's a great question. I take a quarterly retreat. Ideally, this is for at least one night. Sometimes when things are really crazy, I just have to take a day to go do it. In that quarterly retreat, I'm doing a few things. [00:43:20]    First, I am just journaling the game that God has already produced in my work, the good things He's already done over the last three months.   Two, I'm just taking time to worship Him and praise Him for that. Remember that not only did I not deserve anything for the last three months, I certainly don't deserve anything over the next three months. It's putting me in this humble position of recognizing that the only thing I deserve is death due my sin. God has given me Christ and way more, and that puts me in a much healthier heart position to dream about what's next.    Then third step, I just journal off the top of my head without looking at any prompts what I think is most important over the next three months. I don't look at my to-do list because what's most important should be readily apparent to me. I shouldn't have to look at anything, right?    Number four, I review journal entries from the last 90 days as well as my to-do list to refine that journal entry about what I thought was most important. Maybe I forgot, oh yeah, Jordan, you're releasing a book in the next quarter. [00:44:25] We got to get ready for that or six months from now, whatever it is.    Then five, I am taking a first stab at drafting those objectives and key results. My rule is no more than five objectives in a given quarter and no more than five key results for each objective, which could mean 25 key results.    Most of the time for me, I wind up at one to three objectives total and one to, oh man, like 10 max key results in a quarter. Most recently, I've had between one and three key results, that's it, that I'm focused on the next 90 days.   Oh, by the way, I've been crushing it. The fewer key results that I'm setting, the quicker I'm getting my goals done. The last two quarters, I've hit my goals early for the quarter and I've had to go into that someday folder and pull new things out because I've gotten everything done. That feels great. [00:45:28]    Laura Dugger: That's incredible. That does feel great to get to check that off and go to the next thing. I want to see how people can apply this, but first also, maybe Sabbath is more so something that grabbed them. So can you share just a little glimpse of what that looks like? Because you said that's one of your most impactful habits.   Jordan Raynor: Oh yeah, absolutely. Sabbath starts with work, right? You got to work hard and work well if you want to be able to rest well. Maybe helpful to think about this, I'm doing all the work for two days in one. So we have chosen to enjoy the gift of Sabbath. Notice I didn't say observe Sabbath because that connotes life-sucking legalism.    We enjoy the gift of Sabbath from Saturday dinner time until Sunday dinner time. So Saturday afternoon, we are going through our Sabbath prep checklist. That includes cleaning up the house, picking everything up so we're not distracted, packing bags and waters for church the next day, making a plan for Sabbath. [00:46:33] So who do we want to hang out with? Texting and coordinating those plans ahead of time so we're not attached to our phones on Sabbath itself, doing laundry, running the dishwasher.   And then when we get to the end, I'm sending my phone on a 24-hour vacation. So I mentioned spending two and a half hours apart from my phone each night. On Sabbath, it is on airplane mode for 24 hours.   Then we kick off Sabbath by just feasting. So Sabbath to us is... I love how Kevin DeYoung put it. It's an island of get-to and a sea of have-to. We try to do nothing on that I have to-do list and only things on that get to-do list.   So that starts a feasting on some of our favorite foods. We get takeout. So cleanup's really easy. So we're Chewy's Mexican or good Chinese food, whatever. We light a candle to kick off Sabbath so that it always smells like Sabbath in my house, which is usually pumpkin pecan waffles, even when it's like July in Florida, which makes no sense. [00:47:33]    Then Saturday night's pretty chill, watching a little bit of TV with the kids, whatever. They're going to bed. On Sunday, this is my one day a week where I sleep in. My wife sleeps in the other six days of the week. I sleep in, Kara gets up with the kids. It's the one day a week of the week where they get to watch a full-length movie, which they're super pumped about, and don't judge me, drink coffee. So they get to drink coffee on Sabbath.    My kids wake up super early, so they can finish the movie before church. On the way to church is one of my favorite traditions where we stop and get donuts on the way and the whole drive we're talking about what we're thankful for from the past week. So just looking back, what are we grateful for? And then what do we want to adore God for about His character based on what He's done and what we've seen Him do and what we're thankful for the past week?   We then go feast on the word with our church family and then come back, have lunch at the house. We don't do the lunch after church thing to us. That's a little exhausting. [00:48:31] So we come home, have lunch here.    And then Sunday afternoons are pretty chill. A lot of times we're just playing games or swimming in the pool. This past Sunday, we went for a walk and let the kids climb some trees. But just a day to slow down and catch up to our souls and just be and remind ourselves that we are loved and valued, even when we're not being productive, that our heavenly Father does not need us. He wants us to quote my friend, [Scott Jotani? 00:49:05] And man, it's been a total game-changer.    I'll end with this. I saw a mentor who I hadn't seen in years. I think this was last summer. And we were on vacation in Rhode Island. I talked to my mentor for about an hour and he texted me after I left his house and he's like, "Hey, you seem way more rested than I saw you the last five years ago." And it's not vacation rest. He called that out. He's like, "This is not vacation rest. What is this?" I was like, "It's Sabbath." He's like, "That's what I thought. That's what I thought."   People can feel it. People know when they're in the presence of somebody who is living and working out of a Sabbath rest. So I would encourage you to try it. Treat it as an experiment. Don't say, "We're going to do this for the rest of our lives. Try it for four weeks. Try it for six weeks. Give it a shot. And I think you'll be blown away at how healthy it is, both for your soul and for the goals that you're chasing after the rest of the week. [00:50:10]    Laura Dugger: Okay. Challenge accepted. So great. So then bringing this home for someone, if they need to get quiet, get with the Lord, and just see what's bubbling up for them, do you have any other recommended Scripture, places to start, or questions for reflection or anything just to point us in the right direction?   Jordan Raynor: Yeah. I would just point you to the Gospels and the way of Jesus. We read Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John almost exclusively for their theology and the ethic of Jesus and they certainly have a lot to say about that. But as my friend John Mark Comer has pointed out, the Gospels are also biographies of Jesus' life. And I don't know about you, but I want to redeem my time in the model of my Redeemer. He is the key to the whole thing.    By the way, even non-Christians can get on board with this. I'll tell non-Christians all the time, like, hey, Christian or not... pretty hard to dispute that Jesus was the most productive person to ever walk the earth. [00:51:09] And we know how He managed His time. And no, the Gospels don't show Him with a to-do list or a smartphone, but they show Him dealing with distractions at work. One time a guy literally dropped through the roof over Jesus' head while He was working and preaching. Unless that's happening to you, you're not more distracted than Jesus was, right?    They show Him seeking to be busy without being hurried. They show Him having to dissent from the kingdom of noise to think. And so, man, you want to redeem your time toward eternal ends? Look to the author of time, Jesus of Nazareth in the Gospel biographies.    Laura Dugger: This has been incredible to lay the foundation for our own lives, which is great to put into practice first. But as we're tying it all up to, how can we pass along this wisdom to our children?   Jordan Raynor: Yeah. Number one, just talk about the biblical narrative of work and productivity that your kids are probably not hearing in Sunday school. [00:52:11] I know because I see the Sunday school curriculum. I'm an elder in our church. They're not seeing it.    Point them to Genesis 1 and 2. Point them to the fact that we worship a God who works and created us to work and be productive and redeem our time in His image. And you can do that through Genesis 1 and 2. You can fast forward to Revelation 21 and 22 and Isaiah 65 that talks about work and productivity for eternity on the new earth.   Then I do have a couple of picture books that I wrote for kids as a tool, as a resource for you to communicate the why of redeeming your time, the why of work to your kids. They're called The Creator in You, which is this artistic interpretation of Genesis 1 and 2, and The Royal in You, which is the opposite book into scripture in Revelation 21 and 22.    And my prayer for this book is that it will... your kids may not admit this to you, but if they're anything like I was as a kid, if they're anything like my kids used to be, your kids view heaven with confusion, boredom, and maybe even fear. [00:53:18] And that's tragic because God's word replaces all of that with biblical clarity, excitement, and hope.    And that's my prayer for this book, that based on God's word, it would expand the vision of kids and, frankly, grownups to view heaven in the new earth with that clarity, excitement, and hope, all to God's greater glory and our greater joy.   Laura Dugger: A worthy vision indeed. We will certainly link to those resources in the show notes. Jordan, this time has been so enjoyable, but I still have one question for you because we are called The Savvy Sauce because "savvy" is synonymous with practical knowledge or discernment. And so as my final question for you today, what is your Savvy Sauce?   Jordan Raynor: Yeah, honestly, I've shared a lot of the practical answers to that. We started the conversation theological, went practical, let's end theological. My savvy sauce lately is that I spend a lot of time thinking about where I see myself professionally in five million years, not five years like you were asked in a job interview. [00:54:30]   Because again, God's word promises that we will work free from the curse of sin. And here's why, and here's how this connects to redeeming the time. The more that I've meditated on that promise of long enjoying the work of my hands, I am far less hurried in the present.   Because I spent years, Laura, worrying about finishing my life's work, of getting it all done. I got to get past this business because I still want to do X, Y, and Z in my life, right? But knowing that I'm going to have eternity to work for God's glory, I am free from all of those burdens and just so much less hurried because here's what's going to happen.   When I die with unfinished symphonies, and all of us will die with unfinished symphonies and to-do lists, either God is number one, going to tap somebody else on the shoulder and have them pick up that work and finish it, praise God. [00:55:29] Number two, He's going to finish that work by himself with no human involvement, praise God. Or number three, when I arise from the nap that is death, God in his goodness and generosity will put that unfinished symphony back in my hands and give me the joy of finishing it free from the curse of sin, praise God.   Either way, I don't lose. If the things on my to-do list are on God's to-do list, He will finish them. And as I've thought about that and work on the new earth, it has just been radical in slowing me down and recognizing that eternity is now in session and I don't have to finish it all before I die. It's been a tremendous gift that the Lord has given me. So I would encourage our listeners to do the same.   Laura Dugger: Yes. Well, Jordan, clearly God has gifted you with being a vision caster, a visionary, a leader, and I just appreciate this conversation is oozed with your love of Kara and your daughters and our Lord and has been, like you said, theological and practical. [00:56:41] I just have learned so much. So thank you for being intentional about redeeming your time. It really is a way that you are loving others and loving God well, and I just appreciate you. So thank you for being my guest.   Jordan Raynor: Thank you, Laura.   Laura Dugger: One more thing before you go. Have you heard the term "gospel" before? It simply means good news. And I want to share the best news with you. But it starts with the bad news. Every single one of us were born sinners, but Christ desires to rescue us from our sin, which is something we cannot do for ourselves.   This means there is absolutely no chance we can make it to heaven on our own. So, for you and for me, it means we deserve death and we can never pay back the sacrifice we owe to be saved. We need a Savior.   But God loved us so much, He made a way for His only Son to willingly die in our place as the perfect substitute. [00:57:43] This gives us hope of life forever in right relationship with Him. That is good news.   Jesus lived the perfect life we could never live and died in our place for our sin. This was God's plan to make a way to reconcile with us so that God can look at us and see Jesus. We can be covered and justified through the work Jesus finished if we choose to receive what He has done for us.   Romans 10:9 says that if you confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.    So would you pray with me now? Heavenly Father, thank You for sending Jesus to take our place. I pray someone today right now is touched and chooses to turn their life over to You. Will You clearly guide them and help them take their next step in faith to declare You as Lord of their life? We trust You to work and change lives now for eternity. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen.    If you prayed that prayer, you are declaring Him for me, so me for Him. You get the opportunity to live your life for Him. And at this podcast, we're called The Savvy Sauce for a reason. We want to give you practical tools to implement the knowledge you have learned. So you ready to get started?    First, tell someone. Say it out loud. Get a Bible. The first day I made this decision, my parents took me to Barnes & Noble and let me choose my own Bible. I selected the Quest NIV Bible, and I love it. You can start by reading the Book of John.    Also, get connected locally, which just means tell someone who's a part of a church in your community that you made a decision to follow Christ. I'm assuming they will be thrilled to talk with you about further steps, such as going to church and getting connected to other believers to encourage you.    We want to celebrate with you too, so feel free to leave a comment for us here if you did make a decision to follow Christ. We also have show notes included where you can read Scripture that describes this process.    Finally, be encouraged. Luke 15:10 says, "In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents." The heavens are praising with you for your decision today.    If you've already received this good news, I pray that you have someone else to share it with today. You are loved and I look forward to meeting you here next time.

Two years of podcasting - holy cow! In some ways, it feels like I just started, and in others, it feels like it's been forever. This podcast has been one of the few constants through a whole lot of life changes, and in this episode, I'm reflecting on that—what I've loved about podcasting, what's been challenging, and some of the biggest lessons I've learned along the way.I'm also sharing a look ahead and some of the shifts coming — think more guest interviews, deeper conversations on faith, motherhood, and business, and a focus on making this podcast even more life-giving for you! Whether you've been here since day one or just recently found the show, I'm so grateful for you. Thank you for listening, for sending messages, for sharing the episodes — it truly means the world to me. Let's celebrate two years together and talk about where we're headed next!Resources & links mentioned:Episode 26: A Life Update and Living Open-Handed with GodEpisode 47: How to Make Money Online as a Stay-At-Home Mom (without DMing your friends on Facebook)Episode 65: Sabbath and Summer Plans Episode 69: Kairos Moments, Prayer Journaling, and Building an E-Commerce Brand with Daily Kairos Founder Peter Jones Episode 48: 3 Steps to Building a Business You Love and That Doesn't Take Over Your Life Episode 30: Simplifying Your Schedule to Prioritize What Matters Most Episode 55: The Sacredness of Secular Work with Jordan RaynorEpisode 62: Episode 62: The Dangers of Manifestation and How to Trust God as a Christian Entrepreneur with Tess Vecellio Episode 79: Growing a Successful Online Business in the Margins of Motherhood with Amber Bush-Joseph Called to Create by Jordan RaynorConnect with Jordan: Instagram YouTube Website Affiliate Disclaimer: Some of the links mentioned in our podcast may be affiliate links. This means that if you make a purchase from our link, we may receive a small commission at no extra cost to you. This is a small way of supporting our work here on the podcast, so we thank you for considering purchasing with our affiliate links!

How Mark's 3 appearances on American Ninja Warrior sharpened his skills as a doctor, how the gospel compels him to think differently about “The Checklist Manifesto,” and why he felt he could die happy during a near-death experience.Links Mentioned:Dr. Mark ShrimeDr. Mark Shrime on XDr. Mark Shrime on InstagramDr. Mark Shrime TEDxMercy ShipsAmerican Ninja WarriorSolving for Why: A Surgeon's Journey to Discover the Transformative Power of PurposeEpisode Scott Harrison (Founder of charity: water)When Breath Becomes AirThe Sacredness of Secular Work: 4 Ways Your Job Matters for Eternity (Even When You're Not Sharing the Gospel)Complications: A Surgeon's Notes on an Imperfect ScienceBeing Mortal: Medicine and What Matters in the EndThe Checklist Manifesto: How to Get Things RightAtul GawandeMr. RogersC. S. LewisTransitions (40th Anniversary Edition): Making Sense of Life's Changes The Culture Code: The Secrets of Highly Successful GroupsJordan Raynor

Adam Griffin is joined by Jordan Raynor to have a conversation about the joy of work and the promises of eternity.Questions Covered in This Episode:Can you tell us some about your work and your family? What kicked off all your thinking and writing about how Christians consider their work?How did Genesis 1-2 change the way you thought about being a father?What advice would you give to parents who struggle to see the significance of their daily tasks at home in God's larger plan? What encouragement would you offer to parents who feel overwhelmed or undervalued in their role at home?How do you cast a vision for your family to view everything they do as unto the Lord?Why are so many people afraid or disinterested in heaven?What did you write the “The Royal in You”?What are the promises in scripture about eternity?How do parents answer the questions; are pets and animals in heaven, will mom and dad be in heaven, will I know them?Guest Bio:Jordan Raynor is a leading voice of the faith and work movement. Through his bestselling books (The Sacredness of Secular Work, Redeeming Your Time, The Creator in You, etc.), keynote speeches, podcasts, and devotionals, Jordan has helped millions of Christians in every country on earth connect the gospel to their work. In addition to his writing and speaking, Jordan serves as the Executive Chairman of Threshold 360, a venture-backed tech startup which Jordan previously ran as CEO following a string of successful ventures of his own. Jordan has twice been selected as a Google Fellow and served in The White House under President George W. Bush. A sixth-generation Floridian, Jordan lives in Tampa with his wife and their three young daughters. The Raynors are proud members of The Church at Odessa.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:Genesis 1-2, 1 Corinthians 15, Isaiah 65, Ephesians 2, Colossians 3, Revelation 21-22, Isaiah 11, Isaiah 25, Isaiah 60“The Royal in You” by Jordan Raynor Sponsors:To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website.Follow Us:Instagram | Facebook | TwitterOur Sister Shows:Knowing Faith | Tiny TheologiansThe Family Discipleship Podcast is a podcast of Training the Church. For ad-free episodes and more content check out our Patreon. Editing and support by The Good Podcast Co.

Feeling stuck in your career and unsure how to find your true calling? Join Jordan as she interviews Christian Career Coach, Kelsey Kemp, all about how to discern your calling with practical, faith-based strategiesIn this episode, Kelsey shares her journey from a tech consultant to a passionate career coach and how she overcame fears and analysis paralysis by aligning her career with biblical principles. Listen in for actionable steps on discovering your talents, conducting market research, and making faith-filled career decisions.Links & resources mentioned:Just Do Something by Kevin DeYoungKelsey's Interview on Jordan Raynor's Mere Christians PodcastThe Sacredness of Secular Work by Jordan RaynorConnect with Kelsey:The Called CareerJob DictionaryAnswer the Call Podcast

How Forte is providing “soul care as a service” for some of the world's largest companies, how to practically stop working for love and start working from love, and why we should praise God for giving us more than we can handle.Links Mentioned:Vineet Rajan on LinkedInVineet Rajan on XThe Marine Monk NewsletterForteForte for Faith OrganizationsThe Intellectual Life: Its Spirit, Conditions, MethodsCrime and PunishmentWaldenThe Sacredness of Secular Work: 4 Ways Your Job Matters for Eternity (Even When You're Not Sharing the Gospel) Jonathan Reckford on LinkedInJordan Raynor

How to cultivate humility and a Jesus-like others-obsession, why multiple pastors have quit ministry to work at Southeast, and the spiritual benefits of sticking with a job for many years.Links Mentioned:Jeremy Swafford on LinkedInSoutheast RestorationLighthouse MinistriesEpisode: Audiobook excerpt of The Sacredness of Secular WorkEpisode: Tim Keller (Author of Forgive)Episode: N.T. Wright (Theologian)Episode: Skye Jethani (Co-host of the Holy Post Podcast)Episode: Josh Thompson (Janitor)Episode: Gary Chapman (Author of The 5 Love Languages)Episode: Bobo Beck (Realtor + Author of Wisdom Calling)Episode: Michael Hyatt (Founder and Chairman of Full Focus)Episode: David Platt (Founder of Radical)Episode: Stephen Mansfield (Author of The Search for God and Guinness)Episode: Andy Crouch (Author of Culture Making)Episode: Carey Nieuwhof (Founder of Connexus Church)Episode: John Mark Comer (Author of Live No Lies)Episode: Kevin Finch (Executive Director of Big Table)Mansfield's Book of Manly Men: An Utterly Invigorating Guide to Being Your Most Masculine SelfThe Sacredness of Secular Work: 4 Ways Your Job Matters for Eternity (Even When You're Not Sharing the Gospel)A Long Obedience in the Same Direction: Discipleship in an Instant SocietyMaster of One: Find and Focus on the Work You Were Created to DoRedeeming Your Time: 7 Biblical Principles for Being Purposeful, Present, and Wildly ProductiveLearning to Lead Like Jesus: 11 Principles to Help You Serve, Inspire, and Equip OthersBoyd Bailey on LinkedInTom ZiglarRedeeming Your Time RetreatJordan Raynor

In this episode, Pastor Zac interviews Will Edison regarding an article he wrote, entitled, Christian Faithfulness In Secular Work: Clarification and Caution. 

In today's episode, Jordan and I are going to talk about the how to get big name guests on your podcast, the connection between podcasting and being an author and speaker, and his time management method for producing a weekly podcast.Listen to Mere ChristiansLinks mentioned in this episode:Jordan Raynor's websiteCalled to Create by Jordan RaynorMaster of One by Jordan RaynorRedeeming Your Time by Jordan RaynorThe Sacredness of Secular Work by Jordan RaynorPicture books by Jordan RaynorJordan's conversation with Chandler BoltSuperfans by Pat FlynnThe Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee Book by Jerry SeinfeldThe Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastThe Holy PostSocial Media:YouTubeInstagramLinkedInFacebookMentioned in this episode:Learn more about podcast editing with sonimorphicPodcast EditingThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy

LIVE EVENT: What does it mean to be an Evangelical voter in 2024? The Christian Post presents Politics In The Pews, a call for Christians from across all denominations and political affiliations to come together on key issues facing the Church ahead of what many believe will be the most significant election of our lifetimes. For more information, visit politicsinthepews.comTop headlines for Friday, August 9, 2024In today's episode, we delve into a grassroots movement as hundreds of Christian investors urge major U.S. retailers to stop selling the abortion pill. We also cover the shocking plot involving a Pakistani national with ties to Iran aiming to assassinate U.S. officials, including former President Trump. Additionally, we discuss a study revealing most Protestant clergy's limited non-ministry work experience, and GOP VP nominee Sen. J.D. Vance's bold confrontation with Vice President Kamala Harris.Subscribe to this PodcastApple PodcastsSpotifyGoogle PodcastsOvercast⠀Follow Us on Social Media@ChristianPost on TwitterChristian Post on Facebook@ChristianPostIntl on InstagramSubscribe on YouTube⠀Get the Edifi AppDownload for iPhoneDownload for Android⠀Subscribe to Our NewsletterSubscribe to the Freedom Post, delivered every Monday and ThursdayClick here to get the top headlines delivered to your inbox every morning!⠀Links to the NewsChristian investors ask major retailors not to sell abortion pill | PoliticsMuslim mob tries to kill Christian mother in Pakistan | WorldPro Football Hall of Famer shares Gospel during induction speech | SportsTexas pays over $358K to end lawsuit with atheist group | U.S.Pakistani man arrested over assassination plot to kill Trump | U.S.Most pastors lack extensive secular work experience: survey | Church & MinistriesJD Vance crosses paths with Kamala Harris in Wisconsin | Politics

Do modern writers have to be marketers? In a word, yes.    This catches many authors by surprise. Isn't it the publisher's job to promote a book? Yes, but in today's publishing climate, marketing is a joint effort一a partnership between author and publisher. In the age of social media, writers are expected to leverage their audience to boost sales.   However, this is daunting for most writers. Where should you start? What platform should you use? What type of content should you post? How often? Today's guest is a firehose of helpful tips, and a breath of fresh air for anyone who feels intimidated by the task of promotion and marketing. Jordan Raynor is a leading voice in the faith and work movement, and the author of several best-selling books, including Called To Create and Redeeming Your Time. As a lifetime entrepreneur, who feels called by God to start businesses, he shares his best marketing practices with senior editor Will Parker Anderson. His insights include:  The 8 things to look for when choosing a book idea How to beta test every idea with your audience before you start writing  His formula for clarifying your book idea in a single sentence Why one platform is all you need to grow your audience  Don't fear the marketing monster. With Jordan's strategies in hand, you can tame it. Jordan's approach will help you promote your work, while also making you a better writer in the process一one who knows the market and resonates with readers.        EPISODE LINKS   Subscribe to Will's weekly newsletter: willparker.me Please rate this podcast: Apple | Spotify Will's Instagram: @willparkeranderson Will's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/willparkeranderson/ Jordan's books: Called to Create, Redeeming Your Time, The Sacredness of Secular Work 

In this episode, Derek and Scott interview speaker and author, Jordan Raynor. Jordan is a leading voice of the faith and work movement, and in this episode we get very practical as we discuss the connection, challenges, and opportunities of work and marriage.Questions for Discussion:1. Spend some time thinking about Jordan's statement – who do you do your work with?2. How can you not let your work/jobs negatively affect your marriage and family?3. How can you be fully present both at home AND at work?Resources:Books by Jordan Raynor – Redeeming Your Time, The Sacredness of Secular Work, The Word Before WorkWebsite – Jordanraynor.comJordan's Podcast – Mere ChristiansBook – Every Good Endeavor, by Tim KellerScripture:Genesis 1:26-28Revelation 21Isaiah 65:17-23

Do you feel like you have a lot of work goals but can't seem to accomplish anything in the allotted time your day actually gives you? Do you feel frenetic because you're trying to do a good job at work but then your family life, not to mention your marriage or life with God, is majorly lacking? There are so many shifts we can make as humans, and each of us will have to move a bit differently to accomplish the goal of margin and redeeming our time so we can each make every day count. Yet there are throughlines for all of us to learn for efficiency and for the most inspired life and today Christa is joined by multiple best-selling author Jordan Raynor to walk you through them, as he shares the deeply hopeful and healthy plans for a productive + relational life in Christ. Through his bestselling books (The Sacredness of Secular Work, Redeeming Your Time, The Creator in You, etc.), keynote speeches, podcasts, and devotionals, Jordan has helped millions of Christians in every country on earth connect the gospel to their work.  In addition to his writing and speaking, Jordan serves as the Executive Chairman of Threshold 360, a venture-backed tech startup that Jordan previously ran as CEO following a string of successful ventures of his own.  SHOW NOTES: Find Jordan's website here! https://www.jordanraynor.com/ Find Jordan's books here! https://www.amazon.com/stores/Jordan-Raynor/author/B00KU24B80?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true Find Jordan's Bible App Plan "Redeeming Your Time" https://www.bible.com/reading-plans/27704-redeeming-your-time Find Jordan on Instagram right here! https://www.instagram.com/jordanraynor/?hl=en Dive deeper into your pairing and Enneagram & Marriage love!

What bearing does our work have in light of eternity? How does our theology of heaven shape the way we show up to the needs of the world in the here and now? Tune in to hear an honest and eye opening conversation with Jordan Raynor, author, speaker, and Executive Chairman of Threshold 360. In this conversation we discuss 'The Great Commission', Heaven, and Jordan's most recent book The Sacredness of Secular Work: 4 Ways Your Work Matters for Eternity (Even When You're Not Sharing The Gospel).   Resources: Continue your learning, check out "The Gospel for Our Work" by Ryan Tafilowski. Episode Note: Jordan Raynor referred to the "Romans Road" throughout this episode, which may not be familiar to all listeners. It is an evangelism method developed in 1970 by Dr. Jack Hyles that uses verses from the book of Romans to walk a person through the process of salvation. Learn more about the Romans Road today.

Today's episode is a bit of a HOT TAKE: Jordan is joined by Tess Vecellio, and they talk all about why manifestation is so dangerous (and unbiblical) - and how Christians should instead approach goal setting and achievements in a more God-centered way.

In this episode, Quinn McArthur shares his inspiring story of transitioning from military service to real estate entrepreneurship. As the founder of Apex Capital and co-founder of Legacy Land Fund.Quinn combines his background as a West Point graduate and former Green Beret with his passion for real estate investing. Through his ventures, Quinn aims to integrate faith and business, striving to advance the kingdom of God while generating passive income.Show Highlights:✅02:05 – Who is Quinn?✅09:31 – Real estate income stream✅18:45 – Underwriting collateral✅28:50 – All leverage flexibility✅37:19 – The 4 toppings✅43:26 – Final thoughts

Sign-up for my free 20-day devotional, The Word Before Work Foundations, at http://TWBWFoundations.com--Series: Wisdom for Work from DavidDevotional: 4 of 7You [Lord] reward everyone according to what they have done. (Psalm 62:12)I don't believe Bucket Lists are evil. But I do believe that Christians of all people should spend less time thinking about Bucket Lists—lists of things you want to do before you die and “kick the bucket”—and a lot more time thinking about Anti-Bucket Lists—catalogs of things you will strive not to do on this side of eternity.Why? Three reasons.#1: This life is not our only chance to enjoy the best this world has to offer. As Dr. Randy Alcorn has said, “the ‘bucket list' mentality…is profoundly unbiblical,” because Scripture makes clear that we will have all eternity to enjoy the earth's greatest destinations (see Revelation 21:10-21), food (see Isaiah 25:6–8), culture (see Isaiah 60:1-11), jobs (see Isaiah 65:17-23), etc.#2: God will reward believers differently based on how we steward this life. This is what David alluded to in today's passage and what the Son of David, Jesus Christ, promised more than 20 times. In Matthew 16:27, for example, Jesus echoed David by saying that “the Son of Man…will reward each person according to what they have done.”#3: Eternal rewards are almost always tied to sacrifices we make in the present. For example, in Luke 6:22-23, Jesus said that if you sacrifice your reputation at work “because of the Son of Man…great is your reward in heaven.” In Luke 12:33-34 he promised that if you sacrifice “your possessions and give to the poor” you will be rewarded with “treasure in heaven that will never fail.”For these three reasons, I have spent a lot of time drafting my Anti-Bucket List—things I am intentionally sacrificing in this life so that I can accumulate as many eternal rewards as possible per Jesus's command.Let me give you one example from my list to illustrate.As much as I love my hometown of Tampa, FL, no city fuels my soul more than Washington, D.C. (I know—I'm a crazy person).So why don't my wife and I move our family to DC? There are many reasons, but one is that our aging parents and grandparents are within a ten-minute drive of our current home and we feel called to help care for them as they get older. That's a sacrifice for me personally (less so for my far less selfish wife). But knowing that I will have all of eternity to explore the greatest city of all time, I am happy to put this dream on my Anti-Bucket List, because I trust in God's promise that he will reward me “for whatever good [I] do” in this life (Ephesians 6:8). You too can take David's words to the bank: The Lord will “reward everyone according to what they have done.” Plan accordingly.JordanP.S. If you want to go deeper on why the concept of rewards makes believers uncomfortable, what rewards Scripture promises, how you can earn them, and what else is on my Anti-Bucket List, check out Chapter 4 of my book, The Sacredness of Secular Work!

Fun Books and Serious Books: Episode 847 Reading both fun and thought-provoking books, plus Jordan Raynor answers career questions, and should you fall into a relationship or pursue one?     Featured musical artist: Jonathan Cain  Roundtable: Reading to Think — Or for Fun? What's on your reading list? What genres do you gravitate toward? Whether fiction or nonfiction, most books tend to either make us think and learn, or they allow us to relax and escape. It's good to have a balance of both types, so our guests share their preferences, how they stretch their reading horizons, and what books they recommend you add to your reading lineup.            Leave Us a Voicemail Culture: The Sacredness of Secular Work (Part 2)  It's easy to think your job matters to God only if you're a pastor, missionary, or ministry worker. But what does God think of “secular” jobs? What if our jobs are just “average”? What if we're not even sure what we want to do for a career? Jordan Raynor is an expert at helping people get connected to their calling, and this week he answers listener questions about navigating your workplace and career options.         The Sacredness of Secular Work: 4 Ways Your Job Matters for Eternity (Even When You're Not Sharing the Gospel)  Inbox: Can a Relationship “Just Happen”?  When it comes to romantic journeys, some people seem to unexpectedly meet someone, while other relationships are the result of intentional pursuit. Is one way better? What's the balance between providence and effort? Counselor Glenn Lutjens weighs in.        Link to Counseling Services  Find us on YouTube 

Your willingness to change, plus Jordan Raynor on why your job's important, and when a ministry leader is dating a non-Christian.     Featured musical artist: Love and the Outcome  Roundtable: What Do You Need to Change? One of the most difficult yet rewarding things about adulthood is being honest with yourself when change needs to happen. Whether it's making better choices, breaking bad habits, spending time with God, or improving your relationships, it's healthy to own your stuff and start making adjustments. Our guests admit some of the struggles they've had to overcome, how they became aware of them, and what motivated them to push forward toward change and growth.           Boundless Article: I Want Honest Feedback - But Not Really Boundless Article: God's Sovereignty Doesn't Excuse My Lazy Boundless Article: God's Promptness is Worth Practicing Leave Us a Voicemail Culture: The Sacredness of Secular Work (Part 1)  It's easy to think your job matters to God only if you're a pastor, missionary, or ministry worker. But what does God think of “secular” jobs? What if our jobs are just “average”? What if we're not even sure what we want to do for a career? Jordan Raynor is an expert at helping people get connected to their calling, and this week he joins us to explain why your job has eternal value, even if it seems insignificant.         The Sacredness of Secular Work: 4 Ways Your Job Matters for Eternity (Even When You're Not Sharing the Gospel)  Inbox: When a Ministry Leader Is Dating a Non-Christian She recently found out one of her friends, who happens to be a church ministry leader, is now dating a non-believer. Is it time for a hard conversation? Our counselor friend Kari weighs in.       Link to Counseling Services  Boundless Article: Why I'm Attracted to Guys Who Aren't Good for Me

Hey Friend! "If the only way that your work matters for eternity is because you can use your job to 'share the gospel,' then frankly, you're wasting the vast majority of your time." You may need to read that again! In fact, you may want to listen to this episode twice because my good friend Jordan Raynor is back with some explosive truths that will leave you feeling liberated to do your work, all of your work, in a way that brings meaning and value in a whole new way. In this special guest episode, we are talking about the sacredness of secular work and how every moment of your life matters for eternity. We are diving deep into what Jesus and the Bible actually say about The Great Commission as well as the truth around some deep-rooted beliefs that may not be founded in the Word of God. I am such a fan of Jordan's and own almost every one of his books. I believe he stands at this crossroads of theology and relatability and am so excited for you to be encouraged to see how God cares about a hundred percent of your time at work and how you can reframe some of these faulty belief systems to be truly aligned with God's will. I pray this blesses you! Xo, Stef   Next Steps: Watch the Free Podcast Workshop: http://podcastforgrowth.com Watch the Free Clarity Workshop: http://freeclarityworkshop.com Join the Stefanie Gass School: https://stefaniegass.com/school Grab Your Freebies: https://stefaniegass.com/ Join the FB Community: http://stefgasscommunity.com   Get your application in NOW for Podcast to Profit: A 6-Month Group Coaching Program for Christian Podcasters! Learn how to grow your show, increase your visibility, create an offer that sells, and so much more! http://podcasttoprofitmastermind.com 

Jordan Raynor is a leading voice of the faith and work movement. Through his bestselling books (The Sacredness of Secular Work, Redeeming Your Time, The Creator in You, etc.), keynote speeches, podcasts, and devotionals, Jordan has helped millions of Christians in every country on earth connect the gospel to their work.  In addition to his writing and speaking, Jordan serves as the Executive Chairman of Threshold 360, a venture-backed tech startup which Jordan previously ran as CEO following a string of successful ventures of his own.  Jordan has twice been selected as a Google Fellow and served in The White House under President George W. Bush. A sixth-generation Floridian, Jordan lives in Tampa with his wife and their three young daughters. The Raynors are proud members of The Church at Odessa. Find more about Jordan here, and get his newest book here!

“I've never been excited about heaven.” This conversation was FULL of ‘aha' moments. If you follow me, you undoubtedly have heard of today's guest Jordan Raynor. He has been on the podcast before, but not like this. Today's episode, we have an amazing conversation about the new earth, heaven, eternity, and so much more. Grab a notepad, and get ready for some great pieces of wisdom.   In this episode, you'll discover…  Diving into the Great Commission. (2:24) The truth behind Matthew 28:19. (8:37) 4 steps to taking control of the ‘Mailman'. (13:19) 4 reasons our work matters for eternity. (23:44)   Jordan's Bio:  Jordan Raynor is a leading voice of the faith and work movement. Through his bestselling books (The Sacredness of Secular Work, Redeeming Your Time, The Creator in You, etc.), keynote speeches, podcasts, and devotionals, Jordan has helped millions of Christians in every country on earth connect the gospel to their work.  In addition to his writing and speaking, Jordan serves as the Executive Chairman of Threshold 360, a venture-backed tech startup which Jordan previously ran as CEO following a string of successful ventures of his own.  Jordan has twice been selected as a Google Fellow and served in The White House under President George W. Bush. A sixth-generation Floridian, Jordan lives in Tampa with his wife and their three young daughters. The Raynors are proud members of The Church at Odessa. Learn more at www.jordanraynor.com/   What's Next?  Are you struggling to win at both home and work? Maybe you're crushing it at work, but home life is tough. Or maybe home life is great, but work is challenging.  I want to give you 10 tips that I share with clients. Go to my website at www.corymcarlson.com/subscribe and download your free copy of “10 Ways To Win At Home and at Work.” Have you read ‘Rise and Go'? All leaders get knocked down from time to time, so this is a resource to help you get back up quicker.  Check it out on Amazon. Also, if you have not checked out my first book, please do! It is called Win At Home First and you can purchase it on Amazon Here. Forbes Magazine rated it one of 7 books everyone on your team should read.

How to get unstuck professionally by mining the depths of Scripture, why comparison is a thief of joy AND a helpful teacher, and how to replace the world's call to “confidence” with the biblical call to “courage.”--Pre-order The Sacredness of Secular Work today and you could win an epic trip for two to celebrate the sacredness of your “secular” work in a castle, vineyard, cathedral, and more! Entering to win is simple: Step 1: Pre-order the book on Amazon or one of these other retailersStep 2: Fill out this formNO PURCHASE NECESSARY. US Residents, 18+. Visit jordanraynor.com for full rules, entry steps (incl alternate entry), prize details, odds & other info. Void where prohibited.--Links Mentioned:Jennifer AllwoodJennifer Allwood on XJennifer Allwood on InstagramJennifer Allwood on FacebookThe Jennifer Allwood ShowReframed Life Coaching with Jennifer AllwoodGet Unstuck and Stay Unstuck: Because Fear Is Not the Boss of YouFear Is Not the Boss of You: How to Get Out of Your Head and Live the Life You Were Made ForThe Will of God as a Way of LifeThe Word Before Work PodcastCrash the Chatterbox: Hearing God's Voice Above All OthersEd MylettJordan Raynor

Does your work matter for eternity?Many people don't believe so, or they think that the only time their work has eternal significance is when they are actively evangelizing.But that's not what the Bible says.While sharing the Gospel is an essential part of being a Christian, the Great Commission and call to evangelize is not the only commission in the Bible.And when we study the First Commission in the Bible, we begin to see just how valuable every part of our work is, whether it's changing diapers as a stay-at-home mom, roasting coffee as a barista, or making financial decisions as an entrepreneur.In this episode, Jordan talks with the author of “The Sacredness of Secular Work”, Jordan Raynor. Together they explore how our daily jobs have intrinsic and eternal value.In this episode, you'll learn:The difference between the instrumental and intrinsic value of our workThe problems that arise when the Church makes the Great Commission the only commissionWhat other commission(s) the Bible givesWhat the unabridged Gospel teaches us about the purpose we have in our workWhy you don't have to work in ministry or a "Christian business" to have purposeThe problem with the half-truth that “Earth is our temporary home” and how this affects how we view our workWant to dig deeper into this topic? Check out these resources mentioned in the episode:Jordan Raynor's websiteJordan Raynor's book: The Sacredness of Secular WorkJordan Raynor on Instagram: @jordanraynorUse THIS LINK for $10 off your first Crunchi order.

What the nail scars in Jesus's hands mean for the work of your hands, why the eternal value of your “secular” work depends upon the value of creation, how we got to the place of overemphasizing heaven v. the “renewed earth.”--Pre-order The Sacredness of Secular Work today and you could win an epic trip for two to celebrate the sacredness of your “secular” work in a castle, vineyard, cathedral, and more! Entering to win is simple: Step 1: Pre-order the book on Amazon or one of these other retailersStep 2: Fill out this formNO PURCHASE NECESSARY. US Residents, 18+. Visit jordanraynor.com for full rules, entry steps (incl alternate entry), prize details, odds & other info. Void where prohibited.--Links Mentioned:Dr. Darrell Cosden on LinkedInThe Heavenly Good of Earthly WorkThe Sacredness of Secular WorkMiroslav Volf on XDr. Randy Alcorn on XWork and Worship: Reconnecting Our Labor and LiturgyEvery Good Endeavor: Connecting Your Work to God's WorkAl Erisman on LinkedInJordan Raynor

CLICK HERE TO PREORDER MY NEW BOOK, WHY CAN'T I GET IT TOGETHERYou wake up everyday, feed the kids, change diapers, go to work, come home, fix dinner, go to bed, and wake up the next morning just to do it all over again. Have you ever asked yourself what all of this is about? Does any of the work you put your hands to matter to God or for eternal purposes? Today on the show we have Jordan Raynor to answer that very question!Jordan Raynor is a leading voice of the faith and work movement. Through his bestselling books, podcast, and devotionals, Jordan has helped millions of Christians in every country on earth connect the gospel to their work. In addition to his writing, Jordan serves as the Executive Chairman of Threshold 360, a venture-backed tech startup which Jordan previously ran as CEO following a string of successful ventures of his own. He lives in beautiful Tampa, Florida where his family has been for 7 generations.Jordan and I have a conversation around his newest book, The Sacredness of Secular Work. Jordan defines these terms and gives us warnings of traps we can tend to fall into when we're thinking our work doesn't matter. Jordan gives us a resounding yes, that what we're doing today does matter for eternity, even if it feels mundane.Thanks for listening and sharing this episode with a friend! SHOW LINKS:Redeeming Your Time The Sacredness of Secular Work The Mere Christian Podcast Come see me on my book tour!Join the Launch Team Alicia Britt Chole www.TravelTexas.com/getyourownPandora lab grown diamondsKing CONNECT WITH JAMIE

How good jobs are saving the lives of 20-somethings at his company, why our definition of “kingdom work” needs to expand beyond saving souls, and how to plant a desire for goodness and truth that ultimately leads to Christ.--Pre-order The Sacredness of Secular Work today and you could win an epic trip for two to celebrate the sacredness of your “secular” work in a castle, vineyard, cathedral, and more! Entering to win is simple: Step 1: Pre-order the book on Amazon or one of these other retailersStep 2: Fill out this formNO PURCHASE NECESSARY. US Residents, 18+. Visit jordanraynor.com for full rules, entry steps (incl alternate entry), prize details, odds & other info. Void where prohibited.--Links Mentioned:PhantastesA God Named Josh: Uncovering the Human Life of Jesus Christ (A Documentarian's Historical & Illuminating Biography― Get to Know the Human Side of Our Lord & Glimpse the Miracle of the Incarnation)Jesus, the Master Psychologist: Listen to HimCork O'Connor Mystery SeriesThis Tender LandCharles Martin BooksOliver AnthonyJohn Cain on LinkedInThe Sacredness of Secular Work: 4 Ways Your Job Matters for Eternity (Even When You're Not Sharing the Gospel)Jordan Raynor

Jordan Raynor guides parents in demonstrating the sacredness of every aspect of life and work, encouraging a purposeful approach connected to God for their children. Show Notes and Resources Connect with Jordan Raynor and catch more of their thoughts at jordanraynor.com or to his podcasts Mere Christianand the Word Before Work . And grab Jordan Raynor's book, The Sacredness of Secular Work: 4 Ways Your Job Matters for Eternity (Even When You're Not Sharing the Gospel) in our shop! Intrigued by today's episode? Think deeper about Faith in the Workplace in our FamilyLife Today episode, Faith in the workplace? Want to hear more episodes by Jordan Raynor, listen here! Donate to FamilyLife Today! Find resources from this podcast at shop.familylife.com. See resources from our past podcasts. Find more content and resources on the FamilyLife's app! Help others find FamilyLife. Leave a review on Apple Podcast or Spotify. Check out all the FamilyLife's podcasts on the FamilyLife Podcast Network

Can your regular job impact eternity? If you're uncertain about whether your job aligns with your spiritual values and God's plan for your life, Jordan Raynor shares ways to make your work meaningful in everyday tasks and explores if God truly cares about what you do from an eternal perspective. Show Notes and Resources Connect with Jordan Raynor and catch more of their thoughts at jordanraynor.com or to his podcasts Mere Christianand the Word Before Work . And grab Jordan Raynor's book, The Sacredness of Secular Work: 4 Ways Your Job Matters for Eternity (Even When You're Not Sharing the Gospel) in our shop! Intrigued by today's episode? Think deeper about Faith in the Workplace in our FamilyLife Today episode, Faith in the workplace? Want to hear more episodes by Jordan Raynor, listen here! Donate to FamilyLife Today! Find resources from this podcast at shop.familylife.com. See resources from our past podcasts. Find more content and resources on the FamilyLife's app! Help others find FamilyLife. Leave a review on Apple Podcast or Spotify. Check out all the FamilyLife's podcasts on the FamilyLife Podcast Network

Imagine finding the sacred in the routine, the holy in the hustle of daily tasks. That's the transformation Jordan Raynor, a compelling author, and dedicated father shares with us as we examine the deep connection between faith and work. His latest book, The Sacredness of Secular Work, championed by influential voices like the late Tim Keller, urges us to see our everyday labors through a divine lens, affirming their significance in the Christian narrative. Weave through Jordan's personal anecdotes of balancing the demands of fatherhood with the quest for spiritual harmony, and find yourself inspired to view your own work as an integral part of God's grand design.Have you ever caught yourself questioning the eternal value of your secular job? We lay that doubt to rest by dismantling the misconception that the Great Commission is the only mission for believers. Jordan illuminates how every endeavor, when performed in pursuit of God's kingdom, becomes an act of sacred service. It's a refreshing perspective that elevates our understanding of vocation, celebrating the role that every job, from the boardroom to the stockroom, plays in shaping our eternal story.Tune in as Jordan and I converse about the importance of our secular work. This episode isn't just a discussion—it's an invitation to redefine your work as a worshipful response to God's call. Grab your copy of Jordan's book today!Book: The Sacredness of Secular WorkAlabaster Beautiful individual Books of the Bible Support the showCheck out our website for more ways to fully connect to God's Word. There you'll find: Coffee and Bible Time Prayer Journals Coffee and Bible Time Courses Coffee and Bible Time Membership (weekly devotionals sent right to your inbox!) Find more great content on our YouTube channel: Coffee and Bible Time Our most popular video is “How I Study My Bible + In-Depth Bible Study!” with over 2M views! Follow us on InstagramVisit our Amazon ShopLearn more about the host Mentor MamaEmail us at podcast@coffeeandbibletime.comThanks for listening to Coffee and Bible Time, where our goal is to help people delight in God's Word and thrive in Christian living!

My job is boring... Does this work have any real point? Instead of aimlessly searching LinkedIn, Jordan Raynor offers an alternative solution on how to work with purpose! Could God value your work if it's not "in ministry"? Show Notes and Resources Connect with Jordan Raynor and catch more of their thoughts at jordanraynor.com or to his podcasts Mere Christianand the Word Before Work . And grab Jordan Raynor's book, The Sacredness of Secular Work: 4 Ways Your Job Matters for Eternity (Even When You're Not Sharing the Gospel) in our shop! Intrigued by today's episode? Think deeper about Faith in the Workplace in our FamilyLife Today episode, Faith in the workplace? Want to hear more episodes by Jordan Raynor, listen here! Donate to FamilyLife Today! Find resources from this podcast at shop.familylife.com. See resources from our past podcasts. Find more content and resources on the FamilyLife's app! Help others find FamilyLife. Leave a review on Apple Podcast or Spotify. Check out all the FamilyLife's podcasts on the FamilyLife Podcast Network

The 7 stages everyone goes through when creating with God, why failure may be a sign of God's favor, and how to journal well in just 11 minutes.--Pre-order The Sacredness of Secular Work today and you could win an epic trip for two to celebrate the sacredness of your “secular” work in a castle, vineyard, cathedral, and more! Entering to win is simple: Step 1: Pre-order the book on Amazon or one of these other retailersStep 2: Fill out this formNO PURCHASE NECESSARY. US Residents, 18+. Visit jordanraynor.com for full rules, entry steps (incl alternate entry), prize details, odds & other info. Void where prohibited.--Links Mentioned:Luke LeFevre on LinkedInLuke LeFevre on InstagramLuke LeFevre on XHoly WorkCreative Leader Coaching‘Episode 23: Luke LeFevre (Chief Creative Officer at Ramsey Solutions)'Ramsey SolutionsJennifer (Hess) Sievertsen on LinkedInExodus 31Genesis 1Genesis 2Genesis 22The Seven DecisionsDisappointment with GodThe War of ArtThe Voice of the HeartChris Pratt on InstagramSurrender: 40 Songs, One StoryThe Sacredness of Secular WorkJordan RaynorContact Jordan

Does your work matter for eternity? Sadly, most believers don’t think so. Sure, the 1 percent of the time they spend sharing the gospel with their co-workers matters. But most Christians view the other 99 percent of their time as meaning very little in the grand scheme of things. But that’s not how God sees it. Our guest will reveal unexpected ways our work matters, not just for the moment but for eternity.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In life, sometimes, the path that follows the spirit of God may not always seem clear or make immediate sense. It's like walking in the dark with a small lantern, where we can only see a few steps ahead. However, caring and following the spirit of God, even when it doesn't make sense, is a journey of faith and trust. It means believing that God's plans are greater than our understanding and that His love and guidance will lead us to a purposeful and fulfilling life. In this episode of The His and Her Money Show, we are joined by Jordan Raynor, a podcaster, influencer, preacher, and the author of the book The Sacredness of Secular Work, to talk about seeing our work through the lens of eternity. Jordan talks about how all good work matters to God, not just explicit spiritual work. He discusses debunking the myth that only church work is sacred and explains the First Commission versus the Great Commission when it comes to our work. Jordan also shares how understanding the sacredness of our work can transform our perspective, infuse our jobs with meaning and purpose, help us find freedom and joy in our work, and open up more opportunities to make disciples. What You Will Learn: How all our work matters to God, not just the spiritual aspects Every moment of our lives can matter for eternity Debunking the myth that only church work is sacred God's First Commission to create culture versus the Great Commission How to cultivate gratitude and purpose in jobs you may not enjoy Gaining freedom to enjoy work, knowing it has eternal significance Practices for making your work matter more The opportunity to make more disciples by embracing this mindset Resources Mentioned: Jordan's book: The Sacredness of Secular Work Connect with Jordan Raynor: Website: https://www.jordanraynor.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/JordanRaynor Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jordanraynor/

Does your work matter for eternity? Sadly, most believers don't think so. Jordan Raynor shares from his book "The Sacredness of Secular Work: 4 Ways Your Job Matters for Eternity (Even When You're Not Sharing the Gospel)." Faith Radio podcasts are made possible by your support. Give now: click here

If you think your work doesn't matter to the kingdom, you need to press play on this episode! Jordan Raynor is here to break down the confusion and myth around work and why God cares passionately about ALL of our work—from leading fitness classes to serving as CEOs to planting gardens—it all matters to God. This conversation with Jordan and Alisa will shift how you see your work this year. You'll hear how what we do, even when we're not sharing the Gospel, is of eternal value. This may just be the episode you need to spark more joy in what you do each and every day! Jordan's new book, The Sacredness of Secular Work, is available for pre-order now, and be sure to listen all the way to the end because he's sharing a pre-order bonus like no other! Go to episode #867 to learn more about Jordan. Our new platoon of Revelation Wellness Instructors, including our new program, LiveWell, is forming now! Let us train and equip you to lead others to health and wholeness through one of our faith-based training programs for everyBODY!  Download a packet today! As you also heard in this episode, you can learn more about the Love-Paced Race here! Become a Revelation Wellness Donor today! Click here or text RWDONATE to 801801. Your generosity helps make podcasts like these possible! We love our Rev community and think you will, too! Be sure to get connected with us at: The Official Revelation Wellness Facebook / Instagram / RevWell TV / Youtube   Your reviews matter to us and help spread the good news, so please leave us one where you listen to your podcast! If we read your review on our show, we'll send you a gift from the Revelation Wellness Store!   We'd also love to hear from you! So please leave us a VOICE MESSAGE here!  Tell us what you thought about this episode!

How Linda was freed from analysis paralysis about discerning “God's will” for her work, the biblical evidence that God cares about your work and not just what your work does “for the kingdom,” and how a proper theology of the New Earth has made Linda feel more alive and much more likely to share her faith--Pre-order The Sacredness of Secular Work today and you could win an epic trip for two to celebrate the sacredness of your “secular” work in a castle, vineyard, cathedral, and more! Entering to win is simple: Step 1: Pre-order the book on Amazon or one of these other retailersStep 2: Fill out this formNO PURCHASE NECESSARY. US Residents, 18+. Visit jordanraynor.com for full rules, entry steps (incl alternate entry), prize details, odds & other info. Void where prohibited.--Links Mentioned:Linda BraddyDr. Linda Braddy on LinkedInDr. Linda Braddy on XThe Will of God as a Way of Life: How to Make Every Decision with Peace and ConfidenceThe Sacredness of Secular WorkDr. Amy Sherman (Author of Kingdom Calling)Redeeming Your Time: 7 Biblical Principles for Being Purposeful, Present, and Wildly ProductiveThe Word Before Work: A Monday-Through-Friday Devotional to Help You Find Eternal Purpose in Your Daily WorkThe Creator in YouMade to Flourish: Cultivating an Abundant LifeChange Your Questions, Change Your Life: 10 Powerful Tools for Life and WorkPatrick LencioniCynt Marshal, CEO of the Dallas MavericksChip Gains on InstagramJoanna Gains on InstagramRobert Griffin III on XJordan Raynor

Do you ever wonder, "Is my job really that important?” In Christian circles, it can be easy to see value in full-time vocational ministry, but what about in “secular” jobs? Lisa welcomes Jordan Raynor, podcast host and author of The Sacredness of Secular Work, to discuss these questions and much more. Listen in to this fast-paced and energetic conversation as Jordan shares four reasons why your work matters (regardless of your vocation choice!), and how you can approach your job with fresh purpose, knowing each day brings an opportunity to make a difference for eternity.   Links Preorder I Want God Leave a Review for the JOE Show   Connect with Lisa Website Lisa Whittle - Instagram Lisa Whittle - Facebook Jesus Over Everything - Instagram   Connect with Jordan Jordan Raynor - Website Jordan Raynor - Instagram Jordan Raynor - Facebook The Sacredness of Secular Work The Word Before Work

While almost everybody is working for the weekend, Jordan Raynor has a different perspective. He believes your 9-5 has eternal significance, even if (or especially if) you labor in a “secular” job. His new book, “The Sacredness of Secular Work,” emphasizes the importance of work ethic, understanding the holistic story of scripture, and redeeming the idea of heaven. A leading voice in the faith at work movement, Jordan is a refreshing and brilliant guest who will change the way you think about work from here on out. 

Today, my friend Jordan Raynor and I are talking about the sacredness of our secular work. Join us as we dive into what we think about work in light of eternity.  Jordan Raynor is an author, podcast host, and executive chairman of Threshold 360.  Through his bestselling books, the Mere Christians podcast, and his weekly devotionals, Jordan has helped millions of Christians in every country on earth connect the gospel to their work.  In this episode, Jordan shares insights from his new book, The Sacredness of Secular Work, and reminds us that our daily jobs have significance for eternity even when we are not explicitly sharing the gospel.  Join Jordan and I as we talk about: Value of our daily secular work (05:59) Rehearsing for eternity (12:15) Half-truths for heaven (10:16) Most surprising discoveries from Jordan's research (21:37) The anti-bucket list (23:00) Tips for how to make disciples (27:12) Using conversation launchers to have more intentional conversations (27:54) Favorite quotes:  05:59 - “The value of secular work depends upon the value of creation and the value of creation depends on what God's going to do with this creation in the end.” 10:16  - “The half-truths of heaven rob our joy and purpose in the present and hope for the future.”  12:15  - “The very same thing I am doing today is simply rehearsing something that is eternal and one day will be perfectly consummated with Christ on the new Earth.” 20:21 - “We mere Christians working as entrepreneurs and baristas in the pews inevitably feel guilty about working in the very places most likely to make disciples of Jesus Christ.” 27:27 - “When you understand that 100% of your time at work matters for eternity and not just the 1% of the time you spend walking somebody through the Romans Road, you are fully alive and fully alive people attract the lost like honey attracts bees.” Coaching this week: 42:12 We are wrapping up our Clarity Questions for 2023.  These questions are a bit more fun, but just as important as the last two weeks have been.  Pause and journal your answers to get the most out of this time. 1)  What are three words to describe the past year and why? 2)  What did I learn about myself this year? 3)  Were there any risks I avoided out of fear? 4)  If you could travel back to the beginning of the year, what advice or encouragement would you tell yourself? 5)  What would your 90-year-old self advise you to pursue right now? Recommendation 46:48 A skincare tip involving Aquaphor  Exclusive Bonus Content 49:15 YouTube viewers get exclusive bonus content, including this week's movie review of Wonka and a bonus review of Paddington 2. Links to great things we discussed:   Jordan Raynor Website Jordan Raynor Instagram The Sacredness of Secular Work: 4 Ways Your Job Matters for Eternity Redeeming Your Time: 7 Biblical Principles for Being Purposeful, Present, and Wildly Productive Mere Christians Podcast Cruel Summer - Taylor Swift Evernote The Crown The West Wing King: A Life The Intentional Father Alli on YouTube The Coach School 3 Secrets to Become a Successful Coach and How to Get Clients Fast Aquaphor Wonka  Paddington 2  Order your copy of Remaining You While Raising Them here. Hope you loved this episode! Be sure to subscribe in iTunes and slap some stars on a review! :) xo, Alli

Get the full audiobook here: https://amzn.to/4aY34Fv--Order The Sacredness of Secular Work before February 3 and you could win an epic trip for two to celebrate the sacredness of your “secular” work in a castle, vineyard, cathedral, and more! Entering to win is simple: Step 1: Pre-order the book on Audible,  Amazon or one of these other retailersStep 2: Fill out this formNO PURCHASE NECESSARY. US Residents, 18+. Visit jordanraynor.com for full rules, entry steps (incl alternate entry), prize details, odds & other info. Void where prohibited.

This episode has so much purpose, content, and hope for families. It could even serve as a homeschooling study for your kids. Jordan Raynor says, “Most Christians spend more time thinking about a one-week vacation than they do thinking about eternity…but it inevitably will lead us to settle for these wishy-washy half-truths about heaven.” Raynor goes on to explain, “Here's why it matters we as adults and parents get this (truths about heaven) right. If we get this right, our kids' hope for the future will be so much more real and so much more concrete, and their purpose in the present will become so much richer.”If you want a theological education for your kids as it relates to finding their purpose, this episode is absolute gold.If you're struggling with whether your work has eternal impact, this episode is for you.If you're looking for a biblical framework for how to set a family vision for building for the Kingdom of God, Raynor provides the path forward.In Jordan's new book, The Sacredness of Secular Work: 4 Ways Your Job Matters (Even When You're Not Sharing the Gospel), Raynor defines the terms sacred and secular and why it matters for us, and our children, to understand them. In our conversation, he addresses parents and kids through this lens and cites Charles Spurgeon, who once said, “For the Christian, nothing is secular, and everything is sacred.” Raynor encourages us: “Imagine the freedom if every child understood that when the Holy Spirit is in them, everywhere they go is sacred.”Here are some hot topics we discuss:Your life and work are a vehicle for bringing God eternal pleasureYour life and work matter for eternity because it's how we earn rewards and eternal treasuresYour life and work matter because through them you scratch off the thin veil between heaven and earthHow you can leverage your life and work to the instrumental end of making disciplesShow Notes: Order a copy of The Sacredness of Secular Work by Jordan Raynor: https://amzn.to/3SngaorGentlemen, apply now for The Leader's Heart Men's Cohort, Feb. 26-29, 2023:https://www.famousathome.com/theleadersheartThe MyKidsEQ Coaching Cohort launches March 4! Get first 8 weeks of KidsEQAcademy curriculum. Sign up here:https://www.famousathome.com/offers/7izP4Puk/checkoutLadies, sign up for Tender & Fierce Group Coaching Cohort with Christi! Begins April 1, 2024:https://www.famousathome.com/tenderandfierceOrder a copy of Famous at Home by Dr. Josh and Christi:https://amzn.to/3y1jJFzWatch this episode on Youtube: https://youtu.be/luYGDw6oExM

5 easy ways for your pastor to encourage Mere Christians in their work this Sunday, how to better understand your biblical call to be a “priest” at work, and 5 circles of influence to pray through in your job.--Pre-order The Sacredness of Secular Work today and you could win an epic trip for two to celebrate the sacredness of your “secular” work in a castle, vineyard, cathedral, and more! Entering to win is simple: Step 1: Pre-order the book on Amazon or one of these other retailersStep 2: Fill out this formNO PURCHASE NECESSARY. US Residents, 18+. Visit jordanraynor.com for full rules, entry steps (incl alternate entry), prize details, odds & other info. Void where prohibited.--Links Mentioned:Matt Rusten on LinkedInMatt Rusten on XMade to FlourishCommon Good MagazineMade to Flourish Skill Mapping Survey and AssessmentWork MattersTom NelsonYou Lost MeThe Divine Conspiracy‘The Relationship between Workplace Status and Workplace Religious Expression'Hugh WhelchelSkye Jethani   Fuller Youth InstituteThe Sacredness of Secular WorkGenesis 1Matthew 25Luke 3Isaiah 65Work and WorshipEventideRobin JohnFinny KuruvillaJason MyhreContact JordanJordan Raynor

How to stop viewing your co-workers as “salvation projects,” the #1 thing pastors can do to free the mere Christians in their pews from feeling like “JV Christians,” and how the gospel compels us to market in ways that serve always—even while selling.--Pre-order The Sacredness of Secular Work today and you could win an epic trip for two to celebrate the sacredness of your “secular” work in a castle, vineyard, cathedral, and more! Entering to win is simple: Step 1: Pre-order the book on Amazon or one of these other retailersStep 2: Fill out this formNO PURCHASE NECESSARY. US Residents, 18+. Visit jordanraynor.com for full rules, entry steps (incl alternate entry), prize details, odds & other info. Void where prohibited.--Links Mentioned:Kaleigh Cox on LinkedInDxTELKisses from KatieWorld RaceJill BriscoeIF:GatheringHarperFiber HomesFiber Gaming NetworkGenesis 1Ephesians 2Isaiah 65Dr. Kennon VaughanRedeeming Your Time RetreatBuilding a StoryBrandCreate AnywayKevin TreuBeth MooreRedeeming Your TimeThe Sacredness of Secular WorkJordan Raynor

Why heaven being on earth matters so much to your work, how to not sacrifice the way of Jesus for the mission of Jesus, and where Skye sees himself professionally in five million years.--Pre-order The Sacredness of Secular Work today and you could win an epic trip for two to celebrate the sacredness of your “secular” work in a castle, vineyard, cathedral, and more! Entering to win is simple: Step 1: Pre-order the book on Amazon or one of these other retailers Step 2: Fill out this formNO PURCHASE NECESSARY. US Residents, 18+. Visit jordanraynor.com for full rules, entry steps (incl alternate entry), prize details, odds & other info. Void where prohibited.--Links Mentioned:Skye JethaniSkye Jethani on LinkedInSkye Jethani on XSkye Jethani on InstagramSkye Jethani on YouTubeHoly Post MediaFuturevilleWhat If Jesus Was Serious About Heaven?Episode 166: Skye Jethani (Co-host of the Holy Post Podcast)The Sacredness of Secular WorkWheaton CollegeGenesis 1Revelation 222 Peter 3Genesis 3Scot McKnight on XWayne GrudemMatthew 7Trinity Evangelical Divinity SchoolPhantastesJohn WaltonIsaiah 65Isaiah 60How Far to the Promised LandBen Sasse on InstagramContact JordanJordan Raynor

In this episode, my guest Jordan Raynor introduces his new book, The Sacredness of Secular Work: 4 Ways Your Job Matters for Eternity (Even When You're Not Sharing the Gospel). He discusses that while our jobs and businesses can be our mission fields, there are other important ways that our work matters for eternity. Important Links: Learn more about Jordan's book The Sacredness of Work - https://www.jordanraynor.com/ Listen to Jordan's Podcast, The Mere Christians - https://podcast.jordanraynor.com/