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In this takeover special folks from the Heritage Trust Network Youth Forum get real about being emerging and early career professionals in heritage: sharing thoughts on resilience, broad skill sets, and whether or not we're over the whole ‘digital' thing. Are we maybe done with instant gratification? Also tune in for a book review from Liz! 00:13 BevArt update! 01:45 Introducing our takeover crew 02:55 Meet Grace, Becca, Emily, and Kate 13:46 How do you get experience? 20:01 Discovering a hidden community 26:38 Let's talk digitisation in heritage 42:02 Our own collections 44:35 Review: Gesina ter Borch Show Notes: - BevArt: https://www.bev.art/ - Heritage Trust Network Youth Forum: https://heritagetrustnetwork.org.uk/heritage-trust-network-youth-forum/ - Gesina ter Borch by Adam Eaker: https://shop.getty.edu/products/gesina-ter-borch-978-1606069462 Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by the people at the Heritage Trust Network Youth Forum in collaboration with The C Word team. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2025.

Join us as we all share the love for the smaller museums out there by visiting somewhere local (to each of us) or ditty (if we were on holiday). Come along to five wonderful little museums! 01:03 Solange visits Derwent Pencil Museum 09:52 Phedra goes to the Museum of Greek Refugees 24:33 Liz visits the Our Lord in the Attic Museum 34:17 Kloe goes to Shibden Hall 44:00 Jenny visits the Dylan Thomas Boathouse Show Notes: - Derwent Pencil Museum: https://www.derwentart.com/en-gb/c/about/company/derwent-pencil-museum - The Museum of Greek Refugees: https://www.visitkavala.gr/en/sightseeing/museum-greek-refugees/ - Our Lord in the Attic Museum: https://opsolder.nl/en/museum-our-lord-in-the-attic/ - Shibden Hall: https://museums.calderdale.gov.uk/visit/shibden-hall - Dylan Thomas Boathouse: https://cofgar.wales/venues/dylan-thomas-boathouse/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2025.

Jenny, Liz and Solange tackle the age old question: how do you choose a conservation specialism? How did we find ours and what should you consider? Also tune in for a review of the new edition of ‘Culture is Bad for You' from Jenny! 00:31 Kloe and Phedra are on maternity leave 01:24 How Solange found books 05:57 Do we begin with the craft? 08:55 Solange accidentally introduces someone to conservation 13:09 Let's teach kids repair skills! 15:28 How Liz found paintings 19:25 Jenny's refusal to stick to any one thing 25:45 Don't be afraid to reach out! 27:49 Have any listeners switched specialisms? 33:04 But objects is a specialism! 34:40 How to narrow the possibilities 43:19 Skill shortages and ‘safe bets' 46:17 Review: Culture is Bad for You (new edition) Show Notes: - Culture is Bad for You – Inequality in the Cultural and Creative Industries: https://manchesteruniversitypress.co.uk/9781526177810/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Solange Masher, Liz Hébert, and Jenny Mathiasson. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2025.

Liz and Solange are joined by Mary Lewis, head of craft sustainability at Heritage Crafts. Where does conservation and craft overlap? Let's talk it out! Also tune in for a book review from Jenny. 00:24 Sponsorship news, hooray! 01:57 Meet Mary 05:53 Kindling crafts and their benefits 07:44 Intangible cultural heritage and the fetishisation of objects 11:45 Endangered crafts 17:19 Being human and using your hands 24:40 Overlap between making and repairing or maintaining 30:32 Woes of making a living 35:42 Shortages in conservation and crafts 42:58 What's the next big craft trend? 48:44 Review: Conservation of Plaster Casts Show Notes: - BevArt: https://www.bev.art/ - Heritage Crafts: https://www.heritagecrafts.org.uk/ - A little about Mary: https://www.heritagecrafts.org.uk/staff/mary-lewis/ - Ratification of the 2003 Convention for the Safeguarding of the Intangible Cultural Heritage: https://www.unesco.org/en/articles/united-kingdom-great-britain-and-northern-ireland-ratifies-2003-convention-safeguarding-intangible - The Red List of Endangered Crafts: https://www.heritagecrafts.org.uk/skills/redlist/ - List of Living National Treasures of Japan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Living_National_Treasures_of_Japan_(crafts) - Stone carving podcast mentioned by Solange: https://sites.libsyn.com/442152 - Conservation of Plaster Casts: https://archetype.co.uk/our-titles/conservation-of-plaster-casts/?id=436 Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Solange Masher, Liz Hébert, and Mary Lewis. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2025.

Ho ho ho! In this festive special the team assembles to play a game of ‘Would you rather?' and make some predictions for the year ahead – plus an exciting announcement from Phedra and Kloe! 00:05:13 A game of ‘Would you rather?' 00:31:07 Predictions for 2025 00:38:04 The announcement! 00:41:01 Songs on YouTube 00:41:34 Thank you, listeners! Show Notes: - S09E08 Dyes in Conservation: https://thecword.show/2021/06/30/s09e08-dyes-in-conservation/ - S06E03 The One with the Arduino: https://thecword.show/2019/10/16/s06e03-the-one-with-the-arduino/ - Xray My Advent (Mastodon advent calendar): https://glammr.us/tags/XrayMyAdvent - Christmas playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrpSmIb8Dh32tU-6vLnvhEGVwauPGC3Ug Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, Phedra Komodromou, Solange Masher, and Liz Hébert. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2024.

We consider a few different takes on apprenticeships: Liz has been an apprentice, Jenny has hosted one, and Kloe is keen. Kloe also talks to Jane Henderson about the potential pitfalls, and Solange interviews stone carvers Nina Bilbey and Charlotte Howarth about how apprenticeships work in their industry. Don't forget to tune in for a Dear Jane about choosing a specialism at the end! 00:02:11 Recent keynote on the topic 00:08:38 Liz' experience of apprenticeships 00:15:30 How do you get to host an apprentice? (Jenny gets this a little wrong) 00:20:28 Jenny's experience of hosting a Level 3 apprenticeship 00:34:05 Some alternative approaches 00:37:48 Will employers accept apprentices? 00:45:46 Passing on knowledge 00:47:20 Correction about length of Icon apprenticeships 00:48:25 Interview with Jane Henderson 01:07:24 Interview with Charlotte and Nina 01:20:06 Dear Jane Show Notes: - S15E01 Icon24 Special + Summer Updates: https://thecword.show/2024/09/18/s15e01-icon24-special-summer-updates/ - Diversity Discussion Panel Bonus Episode: https://thecword.show/2019/03/01/bonus-episode-diversity-discussion-panel/ - Marsh conservation award winners 2024: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource/marsh-conservation-awards-winners-announced-at-icon24.html - Art CPR: https://www.artcpr.com/ - National minimum wage (including apprentices): https://www.gov.uk/national-minimum-wage-rates - Apprenticeship levels in the UK explained: https://www.gov.uk/become-apprentice - Georgie Dennis Conservation: https://www.georgiedennisconservation.com/ - S15E05 Accreditation Part 2: https://thecword.show/2024/11/13/s15e05-accreditation-part-2-the-international-take/ - SRAL: https://sral.nl/en - Icon apprenticeships: https://www.icon.org.uk/careers/conservation-apprenticeships.html - Museums Association AMA: https://www.museumsassociation.org/careers/ama/ - Charlotte Howarth: https://www.making-marks.com/ - Nina Bilbey: https://ninabilbey.com/ - The Lettering Arts Trust: https://www.letteringartstrust.org.uk/ - Listen to Charlotte and Nina's podcast: https://sites.libsyn.com/442152 Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Liz Hébert. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2024.

In this takeover special the conservators at the National Trust take us behind the scenes: telling us their stories, sharing their hopes for the future, and smashing myths about NT properties! 00:00:12 Have you heard of BevArt? 00:02:12 Sarah and Siobhan introduce the National Trust 00:08:18 Urban gems 00:10:14 Managing collections in houses 00:17:04 Changing approaches to preservation 00:22:30 Anita and Rebecca go for a walk 00:27:34 Saying hello to Sarah and the book conservation volunteers 00:32:41 Clare and Claire in the textile studio 00:39:01 Internships and learning 00:43:54 Looking to the future of the studio 00:45:55 Sarah visits Emma at the Knole studio 00:52:37 Sharing the space 01:00:45 Sharing the knowledge 01:04:40 Routes into the profession 01:07:54 Going into the Royal Oak studio 01:11:15 Saying hi to Anna and the artworks 01:19:04 Bonus content: stags at sunset! Show Notes: - BevArt: https://www.bev.art/ - BevArt's buy-back scheme: https://www.bev.art/blog/bev-art-launches-sensor-buy-back-program - The National Trust: https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/ - Batemans: https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/visit/sussex/batemans - Hughenden Manor: https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/visit/oxfordshire-buckinghamshire-berkshire/hughenden - The Textile Conservation Studio: https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/visit/norfolk/the-textile-conservation-studio - The Royal Oak Foundation Conservation Studio: https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/visit/kent/the-royal-oak-foundation-conservation-studio Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by the conservators at the National Trust in collaboration with The C Word team. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2024.

Kloe and Solange give an update on their respective journeys while Liz and Phaedra talk to Bethany Jo Mikelait and Mariana Onofri about how the profession (and accreditation) works in Canada and Brazil. Also tune in for a Dear Jane about gently refusing to work on an object. 00:00:23 Solange and Kloe's updates 00:15:29 Who are our co-hosts? 00:16:32 How it works in Canada 00:31:28 How it works in Brazil 00:45:48 How can we be regulated BUT also inclusive? 01:01:51 Dear Jane Show Notes: - S13E02 Accreditation (Part 1): https://thecword.show/2023/04/05/s13e02-accreditation-part-1/ - Canadian Association of Professional Conservators: https://capc-acrp.ca/ - Bethany's practice: https://www.theartconservatory.ca/ - Follow Mariana on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marianaonofri.restauro/ - Canadian Conservation Institute: https://www.canada.ca/en/conservation-institute.html - Q&A with Indigenous lawmaker Célia Xakriabá: https://news.mongabay.com/2023/02/if-brazil-starts-with-us-why-did-we-arrive-last-qa-with-indigenous-lawmaker-celia-xakriaba/ - Regulamenta Ja's Instagram account: https://www.instagram.com/regulamentaja_cr/ - News in Conservation article by Sayang Rehan: https://www.iiconservation.org/publications/nic/news-conservation-issue-102-june-july-2024 - Museums Association Ethics Committee: https://www.museumsassociation.org/campaigns/ethics/committee/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Kloe Rumsey, Phedra Komodromou, Liz Hébert, Bethany Jo Mikelait, Mariana Onofri, and Solange Masher. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2024.

Echoes of the past, dead objects, and creepy stores – Solange, Kloe and Jenny have a lot on their minds in this year's spooky special! Jenny also visits a newly opened paranormal museum, Liz reviews an enchanting chapter from a sumptuous tome, and Jenny reads a book of ghost stories set in heritage locations. 00:34 Have you heard of BevArt? 04:59 What are ‘ghost signs' exactly? 16:17 Solange's haunted attic dwelling 21:19 We get philosophical about the lives of objects 27:52 Spooky stores 33:01 Jenny visits Rowtons' Museum of the Paranormal and Spirituality 39:59 Jenny reviews ‘Eight Ghosts' 43:00 Liz reviews ‘Art as a Spell' 47:01 Patreon teaser – Phedra's mystery Show Notes: - BevArt: https://www.bev.art/ - BevArt's buy-back scheme: https://www.bev.art/blog/bev-art-launches-sensor-buy-back-program - Ghost signs according to Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_sign - Historic England Ghost Sign project: https://historicengland.org.uk/whats-new/features/ghost-signs/ - Park Hill graffiti: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Love_You_Will_U_Marry_Me - S01E02 Human Remains: https://thecword.show/2017/03/15/s01e02-human-remains/ - The Unbinding: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27485427/ - Lyrics to Puff the Magic Dragon: https://genius.com/Peter-paul-and-mary-puff-the-magic-dragon-lyrics - Rowtons' Museum of the Paranormal and Spirituality: https://rowtonsmuseum.co.uk/ - Witchcraft – The Library of Esoterica: https://www.taschen.com/en/books/esoterica/08019/witchcraft-the-library-of-esoterica/ - Eight Ghosts book project via English Heritage: https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/halloween/eight-ghosts/ and https://www.english-heritageshop.org.uk/eight-ghosts-paperback - Buy the book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Eight-Ghosts-English-Heritage-Stories/dp/1910463736 Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Solange Masher. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2024.

What's it like to work on glass? Jenny and Phedra are joined by emerging conservator Terri Costello as they explore this fragile but ancient material. Also tune in for Solange's interview with artist Freya Laughton about preserving memories in glass. 01:40 Phedra's adventures with Roman glass 04:30 All the exciting places we find it in collections 11:36 Trying out glassblowing and involving expert makers 19:03 Chemistry, imperfections and tools 34:00 Colourful chemistry and stresses in glass 41:56 Getting started in glass 43:31 Interview with Freya Laughton 54:44 Patreon shout-out Show Notes: - Costello Conservation: https://costelloconservation.com/ - Go follow Terri on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/t.costello.conservation/ - Glass and ceramics programme at University of Amsterdam: https://www.uva.nl/shared-content/programmas/en/masters/conservation-and-restoration-of-cultural-heritage/study-programme/glass-and-ceramics/glass-and-ceramics.html - Egyptian faïence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_faience - Glasriket: https://glasriket.se/en/ - Blown Away on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/80215147 - Allard Pierson Museum: https://allardpierson.nl/en/ - Corning Museum of Glass: https://home.cmog.org/ - The Glass Heart exhibition: https://twotempleplace.org/exhibitions/the-glass-heart/ - A beautiful infographic about coloured glass: https://www.compoundchem.com/2015/03/03/coloured-glass/ - Fractography: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractography - The Techniques of Roman-Period Glassblowing: https://romanglassblowing.cmog.org/ - Seafire Design: https://www.seafiredesign.co.uk/ - Follow Freya on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seafire_design Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Phedra Komodromou, and Terri Costello. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2024.

Fess up: when did you last lose something? Liz, Phedra, Kloe and Jenny explore what ‘loss' can mean in collections, in heritage generally, and in conservation. 00:01:10 What do we mean by lost? 00:02:13 Misplaced, disassociated, data loss 00:05:59 Kloe is a fan of the hard copy 00:11:53 Theft in museums 00:15:37 Does loss enhance the value of art? 00:17:56 The motivation behind a theft matters 00:21:30 Freeports and their implications 00:29:09 ‘Redistributed' or looted heritage 00:34:09 Climate change brings loss 00:36:44 Custodial neglect in our personal lives 00:50:14 Have you lost something during treatment? 01:04:07 Support us on Patreon Show Notes: - Dissociation as an agent of deterioration: https://www.digitwithraven.com/single-post/agents-of-deterioration-dissociation - ‘Thief at the British Museum' podcast: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001zlz0/episodes/player - The theft of the Mona Lisa in 1911: https://www.historytoday.com/archive/months-past/mona-lisa-stolen-louvre - Cyprus receives artefacts back: https://cyprus-mail.com/2024/07/22/returned-items-reflect-struggle-to-recover-cultural-heritage/ - Geneva Free Port article: https://www.thecollector.com/geneva-free-port-the-worlds-most-secretive-art-warehouse/ - Acceptance In Lieu: https://www.artscouncil.org.uk/supporting-arts-museums-and-libraries/supporting-collections-and-cultural-property/acceptance-lieu - Art UK database: https://artuk.org/ - Hillwood Estate, Museum & Gardens: https://hillwoodmuseum.org - S11E01 Conservation and Conflict: https://thecword.show/2022/03/23/s11e01-conservation-and-conflict/ - Pontic Greeks on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontic_Greeks - Saving Ukrainian Cultural Heritage Online: https://www.sucho.org/ - Kloe's event on costume care: https://dancejoy.co.uk/ - S04E07 Tools Galore: https://thecword.show/2018/12/12/s04e07-tools-galore/ - S14E06 Musical Instruments: https://thecword.show/2024/05/30/s14e06-musical-instruments/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Phedra Komodromou, Liz Hébert, and Kloe Rumsey. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2024.

We recap our experiences at Icon24: Conservation for Change as we reflect on the conference and our first nearly-full-team meet-up! Phedra also interviews Patrick Whife from Icon about organising the event. Finally we all share our various summer adventures and plans for the autumn! 00:02:07 We went to a conference (you might've guessed) 00:08:11 Audio adventures from Icon24 00:42:41 Phedra has a great idea (please steal it) 00:44:13 Creating a better experience online 00:50:32 We'd have Icon Loughborough or Icon Doncaster 00:53:06 Interview with Patrick Whife 01:13:16 What have Jenny, Phedra and Kloe been doing this summer? 01:19:22 Solange's summer update 01:21:45 And a summer update from Liz 01:23:55 Support us on Patreon Show Notes: - Icon24 details: https://www.icon.org.uk/events/icon-2024-conference-conservation-for-change.html - Assassins Creed Odyssey: https://www.ubisoft.com/en-gb/game/assassins-creed/odyssey - Book a tour with Liz: https://www.thoseamsterdames.com/ - Buy something from our shop: https://thecword.show/shop/ - Send us a donation: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/thecwordpodcast Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Phedra Komodromou, and Kloe Rumsey. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2024.

In this year's travel special we go on FOUR individual journeys: a sort of deconstructed road trip. Kloe goes to sunny Spain, Liz takes her bike to the Rijks Museum, Jenny darts between museums in Sweden, and finally Phedra goes on a watery adventure in Cyprus. Don't miss the return of Cass Fino-Radin at the end of the episode, when they interview emerging conservation professionals at the recent AIC conference in Salt Lake City. Sit back and enjoy the journey! 00:00:36 What's a deconstructed road trip exactly? 00:04:06 Kloe excitedly explores Spain 00:21:44 Liz visits the Rijks Museum 00:34:40 Jenny wanders around Sweden 00:53:01 Phedra goes underwater in Cyprus 01:10:45 Cass interviews ECPs at AIC Show Notes: - S11E08 Manx Road Trip Special: https://thecword.show/2022/06/29/s11e08-manx-road-trip-special/ - Museo Arqueológico Nacional: https://www.esmadrid.com/en/tourist-information/museo-arqueologico-nacional - Fancy restaurant alert (Corral de la Morería Gastronómico): https://guide.michelin.com/gb/en/comunidad-de-madrid/madrid/restaurant/corral-de-la-moreria-gastronomico - Alcalá de Henares, Spain: https://artsandculture.google.com/story/agXhkBx8wyUD-w?hl=en - Rijks Museum: https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en - Van Gogh Museum: https://www.vangoghmuseum.nl/en - Stedelijk Museum: https://www.stedelijk.nl/en - Operation Night Watch: https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/stories/operation-night-watch - Those Amsterdames tours: https://www.thoseamsterdames.com/ - Carl Larsson-gården, Sundborn: https://www.carllarsson.se/en/ - Dalarna in Sweden: https://www.visitdalarna.se/en - Falu Gruvmuseum: https://www.falugruva.se/en/ - Mining world heritage site of Falun: https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1027/ - Christopher Polhem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Polhem - Polhem B&B: https://polhembedandbreakfast.se/en/ - VRAK Museum of Wrecks: https://www.vrak.se/en/ - Paphos, Cyprus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paphos - Tomb of the Kings: https://www.visitcyprus.com/index.php/en/discovercyprus/culture/sites-monuments/253-tombs-of-the-kings - MUSAN Museum of Underwater Sculpture Ayia Napa: https://musan.com.cy/ - Jason deCaires Taylor: https://underwatersculpture.com/ - Phedra's diving instructor: https://www.instagram.com/marishaa_cy - S13E07 Time-Based Media Conservation: https://thecword.show/2023/06/15/s13e07-time-based-media-conservation/ - Art and Obsolescence podcast: https://www.artandobsolescence.com/ - AIC 52nd Annual Meeting (Salt Lake City 2024): https://www.culturalheritage.org/events/annual-meeting/past-meetings/52nd-annual-meeting-in-salt-lake-city-(2024) Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson and Kloe Rumsey. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2024.

Kloe and Phedra are joined by Jill Carruthers in an episode all about newer, fresh-faced museums. What's it like opening a brand NEW museum? Phedra talks to Matt Turtle from the Museum of Homelessness AND Eleni Loizides from the Cyprus Archaeological Museum, while Solange sits down to chat with James Hogg from the Yorkshire Natural History Museum. Also tune in for a review of ‘Conservation Skills for the 21st Century' from Jenny! 00:01:20 What's a new museum? 00:12:34 How Showtown came to be 00:31:56 Making a museum yours 00:37:24 Redefining museums 00:42:05 Is less more? 00:49:54 Reminder! 00:51:19 Interview with Matt Turtle 01:04:09 Interview with James Hogg 01:17:10 Interview with Eleni Loizides 01:26:11 Review of ‘Conservation Skills for the 21st Century' Show Notes: - Showtown: https://www.showtownblackpool.co.uk/ - Grand Egyptian Museum influencer video Phedra mentioned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nwZkVldpvI - Quiz mentioned by Jill: https://www.mhminsight.com/culture-segments/survey/ - Join us on Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/thecword - Get your tickets for Icon24: https://www.icon.org.uk/events/icon-2024-conference-conservation-for-change.html - Museum of Homelessness: https://museumofhomelessness.org/ - Neo Jurassica: https://neojurassica.org/ - Yorkshire Natural History Museum: https://ynhm.org/ - Cyprus Archaeological Museum teaser videos made by the architect: https://youtu.be/iJrI4tOUDmQ and https://youtu.be/Vc8HjbVdmsI - Conservation Skills for the 21st Century: https://www.routledge.com/Conservation-Skills-for-the-21st-Century-Judgement-Method-and-Decision-Making/Caple-Williams/p/book/9780367443320 Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Kloe Rumsey, Phedra Komodromou and Jill Carruthers. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2024.

Liz and Phedra are joined by Jonathan Santa Maria Bouquet as they talk about the conservation of musical instruments: from tuning and treatment considerations to ethics and philosophy. Also tune in (pun somewhat intended) for an interview from Solange with Emma Hardy, violin maker and repairer. There's even some lovely music at the end! 00:22 More announcements! 02:26 Origin story 07:01 The perils and pleasures of working in a fishbowl 09:38 Tuning and a crash course in ‘temperament' 17:10 Working with musicians 19:29 To play or not to play? 23:04 Seeing the history of an instrument 27:55 Treatment considerations and the need for balance 31:07 A place for copies and reconstructions 37:17 Patreon appeal 00:37:42 Interview with Emma Hardy Show Notes: - Nominate someone for the Marsh Conservation Awards 2024: https://www.icon.org.uk/impact/the-marsh-conservation-awards.html - Join us at Icon24 in July: https://www.icon.org.uk/events/icon-2024-conference-conservation-for-change.html - Get in touch with Jonathan: https://www.ed.ac.uk/profile/jonathan-smb - St Cecilia's Hall Concert Room and Music Museum: https://www.stcecilias.ed.ac.uk/ - More about the St Cecilia collection: https://collections.ed.ac.uk/mimed/ - ICOM International Committee of Museums and Collections of Instruments and Music (CIMCIM): https://cimcim.mini.icom.museum/ - St Cecilia's Hall sound library: https://digital.eca.ed.ac.uk/soundlibraries/ - Hardy Violins in Sheffield: https://hardyviolins.co.uk/ More resources: - To play or not to play: http://www.vam.ac.uk/content/journals/conservation-journal/issue-15/to-play-or-not-to-play-the-ethics-of-musical-instrument-conservation/ - Focus on historic musical instruments: https://www.akbild.ac.at/en/institutes/conservation-restoration/study-focus/objects-focus-on-wood-historic-musical-instruments - Italian degree in musical instrument conservation: https://restauro.cdl.unipv.it/it - On the conservation of musical instruments (CIMCIM): https://cimcim.mini.icom.museum/conservation-of-musical-instruments/ - Preservation Perspectives blog: https://libraryblogs.is.ed.ac.uk/conservation/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Liz Hébert, Phedra Komodromou and Jonathan Santa Maria Bouquet. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2024.

Jenny, Solange and Phedra are joined by Luisa Casella as we talk about AI: how can conservators use these tools and what are their pros and cons? Luisa tells us about CRAIG, a large language model for conservators, while Jenny frets about the climate impact. Also tune in for a review of a recent lecture on AI usage from Solange and Phedra! 01:35 What do we mean by AI? 04:11 Building a LLM for conservators 13:33 Climate impact and ethical concerns 20:28 Sophisticated users needed 24:13 Future impact on conservation 35:25 Best AI uses we've seen 37:46 How is CRAIG different from ChatGPT? 39:42 Teaser: Interview with Robert Erdmann 40:18 Review of Dr Nicholas Eastaugh's recent AI lecture 47:34 Patreon appeal Show Notes: - S01E09 Museum Pi: https://thecword.show/2017/06/21/s01e09-museum-pi/ - S06E03 The One with the Arduino: https://thecword.show/2019/10/16/s06e03-the-one-with-the-arduino/ - Follow Luisa and her conservation tips here: https://linktr.ee/conservation_tips - CRAIG: https://chatgpt.com/g/g-P8SfTCDEO-craig-conservation-restoration-ai-generative-tool - ChatGPT by OpenAI: https://chatgpt.com/ - BBC article on Sarah Silverman that Jenny mentioned: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-66164228 - AIC conservation wiki: https://www.conservation-wiki.com/wiki/Main_Page - AI and the Climate Crisis (lecture recording): https://goldsmiths.cloud.panopto.eu/Panopto/Pages/Viewer.aspx?id=609824f6-5e69-4241-9bd4-b13a00d3d05b - AI's Growing Carbon Footprint: https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2023/06/09/ais-growing-carbon-footprint/ - More on energy usage of AI: https://www.washington.edu/news/2023/07/27/how-much-energy-does-chatgpt-use/ - BBC article on AI reading ancient burnt scrolls: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-68221243 - Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwHBfYsHR0UBAiA_VhMeOIw - Paintings Group lecture mentioned: https://www.icon.org.uk/events/paintings-group-art-authorship-and-ai-for-good-or-ill.html Other AI resources: - Luisa's Substack article on AI: https://conservationtips.substack.com/p/ai-in-art-conservation - Heritage Fund briefing on AI: https://www.heritagefund.org.uk/about/insight/research/artificial-intelligence-digital-heritage-leadership-briefing - Museums Association on AI: https://www.museumsassociation.org/category/ai/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Solange Masher, Jenny Mathiasson, Phedra Komodromou and Luisa Casella. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2024.

Jenny and Liz talk to Dr Marysia Tarnowska about their journey into heritage science from a background in chemistry: from molecular bonds to leather deterioration! Jenny also talks to Dr Josep Grau-Bove from the Icon Heritage Science Group about how we can communicate better as both conservators and scientists. Finally, tune in for a review of ‘Soft Paint and the Care of Paintings' from Liz! 00:01:10 From chemistry to museum adventures 00:07:35 A project is born 00:14:53 Scientific papers are an endurance sport 00:17:23 Ways into heritage science 00:19:08 Communicating with conservators 00:24:02 Reaching scientists early on 00:34:28 Museums doing research 00:40:53 Getting involved with scientists 00:43:42 University is where it's at 00:47:13 Don't forget about the Marsh Awards 00:48:00 Patreon shout-out 00:48:37 Interview with Dr Josep Grau-Bove 01:03:11 Review: Soft Paint and the Care of Paintings Show Notes: - Find Marysia on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marysia-tarnowska/ - Follow Marysia on Twitter: https://twitter.com/supra_marysia - Blog entry by Lucia Burgio at the V&A: https://www.vam.ac.uk/blog/caring-for-our-collections/a-week-in-the-life-of-a-va-heritage-scientist-intro - Red rot (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_rot - Museum of Leathercraft: https://museumofleathercraft.org/ - Leather Conservation Centre: https://leatherconservation.org/ - Institute for Creative Leather Technologies: https://www.northampton.ac.uk/research/research-institutes-and-centres/institute-for-creative-leather-technologies/ - S09E06 Leather: https://thecword.show/2021/06/02/s09e06-leather/ - ICPMS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductively_coupled_plasma_mass_spectrometry - /r/ArtConservation: https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtConservation/ - Icon Heritage Science Group: https://www.icon.org.uk/groups-and-networks/heritage-science.html - European Research Infrastructure for Heritage Science (E-RIHS): https://www.e-rihs.eu/ - MoLab: https://www.iperionhs.eu/molab/ - AHRC (Arts and Humanities Research Council): https://www.ukri.org/councils/ahrc/ - Research at Amgueddfa Cymru: https://museum.wales/research/ - Cultural Heritage Agency of the Netherlands: https://english.cultureelerfgoed.nl/ - Marsh Conservation Awards 2024: https://www.icon.org.uk/impact/the-marsh-conservation-awards.html - Dr Josep Grau-Bove at UCL: https://profiles.ucl.ac.uk/33855-josep-graubove - UCL Institute for Sustainable Heritage: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/bartlett/heritage/ucl-institute-sustainable-heritage - Dr Katherine Curran at UCL: https://profiles.ucl.ac.uk/34356-katherine-curran/ - Soft Paint and the Care of Paintings book: https://archetype.co.uk/our-titles/soft-paint-and-the-care-of-paintings/?id=450 Previous ‘Working With' episodes: - S07E04 Working With Techs: https://thecword.show/2020/05/27/s07e04-working-with-techs/ - S09E01 Working With Front of House: https://thecword.show/2021/03/24/s09e01-working-with-front-of-house/ - S10E02 Working With Curators: https://thecword.show/2021/09/29/s10e02-working-with-curators/ - S11E03 Working With Learning: https://thecword.show/2022/04/20/s11e03-working-with-learning/ - S13E04 Working With Adult Learning: https://thecword.show/2023/05/03/s13e04-working-with-adult-learning/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Liz Hébert, Jenny Mathiasson, and Dr Marysia Tarnowska. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2024.

Join Jenny, Kloe and Liz as they explore historic houses across the world, their unique charms, and quirky challenges. Phedra whisks us away to a sun-soaked historic house museum in Cyprus, while Liz delves into the meticulous conservation efforts at Sir John Soane's Museum with Jane Wilkinson. Finally, Kloe has a chat with Helen Antrobus about what it's like working in the National Trust. 00:00:28 What's a historic house? 00:03:18 Are all of them posh? 00:07:03 Nature and heritage in harmony 00:09:30 Our favourites 00:16:30 Jenny feels like an alien 00:23:14 Mitigating damage 00:24:56 Houses still in use 00:31:12 Challenges and temptations 00:37:21 What era are we interpreting or preserving? 00:40:57 Pests and damp patches 00:44:28 Patreon shout out 00:45:00 Interview with Jane Wilkinson 00:56:00 Phedra's visit to Lefkara 01:07:17 Interview with Helen Antrobus Show Notes: - National Trust: https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/ - NT annual report Jenny quoted: https://documents.nationaltrust.org.uk/story/annual-report-2023/page/1 - Historic Houses (UK): https://www.historichouses.org/ - Rembrandt House, Amsterdam: https://www.rembrandthuis.nl/en/ - Kettles Yard, Cambridge: https://www.kettlesyard.cam.ac.uk/history-of-kettles-yard/ - Pollok House, Glasgow: https://www.nts.org.uk/stories/pollok-house-major-refurbishment - FAI or the National Trust for Italy: https://fai-international.org/ - Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum: https://www.gardnermuseum.org/ - Gawthorpe Hall, Ightenhill: https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/visit/liverpool-lancashire/gawthorpe-hall - Chatsworth, Bakewell: https://www.chatsworth.org/ - Yin Yu Tang at Peabody Essex Museum: https://www.pem.org/yin-yu-tang-a-chinese-home - St Fagans National Museum of History in Wales: https://museum.wales/stfagans/ - Beamish, the Living Museum of the North, in England: https://www.beamish.org.uk/ - Museo Horne: https://www.museohorne.it/en/ - Holker Hall in Cumbria: https://www.holker.co.uk/ - West Dean College: https://www.westdean.ac.uk/ - Barnes foundation move in Philadelphia: https://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/14/arts/design/judge-rules-the-barnes-can-move-to-philadelphia.html - S10E04 Halloween special with haunted properties: https://thecword.show/2021/10/28/s10e04-halloween-special/ - Old World Wisconsin: https://oldworldwisconsin.wisconsinhistory.org/ - Sir John Soane's Museum: https://www.soane.org/ - The book mentioned by Liz: https://shop.soane.org/collections/books-and-maps/products/a-complete-description-of-sir-john-soanes-museum-24 - The Local Museum of Traditional Embroidery and Silversmith-work, Lefkara (for the virtual tour!): https://larnakaregion.com/directory/product/local-museum-traditional-embroidery-and-silversmith-work-lefkara - S10E02 Working with Curators: https://thecword.show/2021/09/29/s10e02-working-with-curators/ - Visiting the National Trust conservation studios: https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/search?type=place&query=conservation - Hidden Treasures of the National Trust on the BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001lttx Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Liz Hébert, Kloe Rumsey, and Jenny Mathiasson. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2024.

Liz and Phedra join forces with freelance paintings conservator Alexis Drapanas as they tackle an ECP special! Phedra also interviews conservator Kerith Koss Schrager and intern Adrienne Gendron about health and safety for emerging professionals. And don't forget to tune in for a Dear Jane about getting into some more unusual specialisms! 00:00:45 Introducing our ECP hosts 00:08:02 Straight from university to private practice 00:09:15 What does ‘emerging' mean to you? 00:16:01 Let's talk money! 00:24:37 Paperwork in real life 00:29:22 Job searching across Europe 00:37:44 How to break down the door 00:45:45 Patreon teaser 00:46:00 Interview with Kerith Koss Schrager and Adrienne Gendron 01:00:57 Phedra's recommended listening 01:03:19 Dear Jane Show Notes: - Alexis' website: https://www.drapanas.com/ - Follow Phedra on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/phedrakom/ - Cardiff University: https://www.cardiff.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/courses/course/conservation-of-objects-in-museums-and-archaeology-bsc - Lorenzo de Medici Institute: https://ldminstitute.com/department/restoration/ - Follow Liz on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lizhebertxcvi - Follow Liz on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lizhebertxcvi/ - Conversation Conservation on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/conversationconservation/ - AIC Health and Safety Wiki: https://www.conservation-wiki.com/wiki/Category:Health_%26_Safety - Health and safety beginner's guide: https://www.conservation-wiki.com/w/images/1/1d/H%26S_BeginnerGuide.pdf - Hazards in collections eTool: https://hazardsincollections.org.uk/ - 6 session C2C Course - Health and Safety in Collections Care: https://learning.culturalheritage.org/products/c2c-care-course-health-and-safety-in-collections-care Phedra's recommended listening: - S01E05 Emerging Professionals: https://thecword.show/2017/04/26/s01e05-emerging-professionals/ - S02E04 Emerging Professionals 2: https://thecword.show/2017/10/04/s02e04-emerging-professionals-2/ - S13E02 Accreditation Part 1: https://thecword.show/2023/04/05/s13e02-accreditation-part-1/ - S12E06 Time Management: https://thecword.show/2022/11/23/s12e06-time-management/ - S12E01 Job Interviews: https://thecword.show/2022/09/14/s12e01-job-interviews/ - S11E04 Building a Business: https://thecword.show/2022/05/04/s11e04-building-a-business/ - S10E05 Aches and Pains: https://thecword.show/2021/11/10/s10e05-aches-and-pains/ - S05E05 Portfolio Extravaganza: https://thecword.show/2019/05/15/s05e05-portfolio-extravaganza/ - S04E02 Parenthood: https://thecword.show/2018/10/03/s04e02-parenthood/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Liz Hébert, Phedra Komodromou, and Alexis Drapanas. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2024.

Meet the dream team! It's a crowded recording session today: Jenny and Kloe ask their new colleagues Liz, Phedra, and Solange about their new roles and their favourite objects, tools, and adhesives. What ARE a few of our favourite things? Also tune in for a review of ‘Conservation of Books' from Solange! 00:02:16 Who's Liz? 00:04:22 And who's Phedra? 00:07:00 Aaand who's Solange? 00:09:38 Experimentation ahead 00:14:10 Favourite Instagram accounts 00:17:08 Favourite objects 00:25:31 Least favourite objects! 00:34:02 Can you have a favourite pest…? 00:37:33 Favourite adhesive 00:53:38 Favourite tools 01:04:17 Review: Conservation of Books Show Notes: - Follow Liz on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lizhebertxcvi - Follow Liz on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lizhebertxcvi/ - Liz's website: https://readymag.website/u1771381592/4680039/ - The EC Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/35cVChweygfrY8A7o4LLiw or https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ecpodcast/id1507272772 - Future Conservator Podcast: https://soundcloud.com/user-979095571 - Follow Phedra on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/phedrakom/ - Follow Solange on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/liber.conservation - Solange's business: https://liberconservation.co.uk/ - You should definitely support us on Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/thecword - Squeaky Conservator on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@squeakyconserves - Our new Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_c_word_podcast - International Mount Makers Forum: https://www.instagram.com/internationalmountmakersforum/ - Classical Studies Memes for Hellenistic Teens: https://www.instagram.com/csmfht/ - Fun Conservators: https://www.instagram.com/fun_conservators/ - Reversible Zine: https://www.instagram.com/reversiblezine/ - The Lady Art Handler: https://www.instagram.com/theladyarthandler/ - Conservation in Focus: https://www.instagram.com/conservationinfocus/ - Bridget Mitchell: https://www.instagram.com/bridget.mitchell_/ - Ki Culture: https://www.kiculture.org/ - S10E05 Aches and Pains: https://thecword.show/2021/11/10/s10e05-aches-and-pains/ - CAC-ACCR Conference (Keeping it Real: Conservation in Practice): https://www.cac-accr.ca/our-conferences/ - Conservation of Books (edited by Abigail Bainbridge): https://www.routledge.com/Conservation-of-Books/Bainbridge/p/book/9780367754907 Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, Solange Masher, Liz Hébert, and Phedra Komodromou. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2024.

In this special bonus episode we make a couple of overdue announcements, take you with us to an award ceremony in Cardiff, and profess our undying love for our listeners. Would you like to join us on The C Word team? Get in touch! 00:57 We're having a break - and we're recruiting! 07:31 We've got an award 09:21 Recording from The 30(ish) Awards 17:50 Dear Jane teaser 18:51 Patreon shout out Show Notes: - Recruitment page: https://thecword.show/recruitment/ - The 30(ish) Awards winners: https://www.cardiff.ac.uk/alumni/features/30ish-awards-2023 - Dear Jane cotton bud video: https://youtu.be/lZg8hNajdQg Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson and Kloe Rumsey. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2023.

In this one we talk to Professor Aviva Burnstock about what paintings can be and we chat with Polly Saltmarsh about communicating conservation and the joys of sticky toffee pudding sauce. Also tune in for a review of ‘On Canvas: Preserving the Structure of Paintings' by Stephen Hackney from Kloe. 03:48 When is a painting a painting? 10:05 On the nature of painted surfaces 13:13 How students might approach a painting 16:20 A chat about varnish 27:39 The joy of microscopy 28:39 Gut feelings and forgeries 34:06 Interview with Polly Saltmarsh 48:03 Review: On Canvas 52:28 Patreon appeal Show Notes: - The Courtauld Institute of Art: https://courtauld.ac.uk/ - Art and Artifice fakes exhibition: https://courtauld.ac.uk/whats-on/art-and-artifice-fakes-from-the-collection/ - Fake or Fortune: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01mxxz6 - Polly's website: https://www.paintingsconservation.co.uk/ - Reopening the National Portrait Gallery: https://www.npg.org.uk/blog/road-to-reopening - On Canvas: https://shop.getty.edu/products/on-canvas-preserving-the-structure-of-paintings-978-1606066263?variant=29175364157517 Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Aviva Burnstock. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2023.

We're joined by special guest host Cass Fino-Radin as we talk about time-based media: what it can be, what the challenges are, and what we can do to preserve it. From mechanical components to maintaining software, we geek out about everything that's wonderful about this type of conservation. Also tune in for a review of poetry pamphlet ‘Accessioning' by Charlotte Wetton. 00:21 A long-time spreadsheet idea 02:44 A potted history of time-based media (maybe) 05:41 Conservation of performance art 10:26 The wildest thing about time-based media 12:40 Cass' origin story 22:36 Blurry objects and things going off 27:54 More suggestions for what time-based media is 30:55 Old vs new technology 36:56 What makes a good time-based media conservator? 40:03 Review: Accessioning 44:54 Patreon appeal Show Notes: - Art and Obsolescence podcast: https://www.artandobsolescence.com/ - Cass' website: https://finoradin.info/ - Pip Laurenson: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/art-history/people/academic-staff/professor-pip-laurenson - Episode with Glenn Wharton: https://www.artandobsolescence.com/episodes/005-glenn-wharton - MoMA Media and Performance department: https://www.moma.org/about/curatorial-departments/media-performance - S05E03 Contemporary Art: https://thecword.show/2019/04/17/s05e03-contemporary-art/ - Episode with Annet Dekker: https://www.artandobsolescence.com/episodes/043-annet-dekker - Rhizome: https://rhizome.org/ - AIC 40th annual meeting in Albuquerque (2012): https://www.culturalheritage.org/docs/default-source/publications/periodicals/annual-meeting/2012-annual-meeting-abstracts.pdf?sfvrsn=1dbb1699_8 - Cass' company Small Data Industries: https://smalldata.industries/ - Cooper Hewitt: https://www.cooperhewitt.org/ - S09E05 Dynamic Objects: https://thecword.show/2021/05/19/s09e05-dynamic-objects/ - S06E03 The One with the Arduino: https://thecword.show/2019/10/16/s06e03-the-one-with-the-arduino/ - S01E09 Museum Pi: https://thecword.show/2017/06/21/s01e09-museum-pi/ - Time-based media according to Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_and_restoration_of_time-based_media_art - Planetary app case study: https://www.cooperhewitt.org/2019/05/16/planetary-cooper-hewitts-first-ios-app/ - Accessioning poetry pamphlet: https://theemmapress.com/shop/poetry/pamphlets/accessioning/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Cass Fino-Radin. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2023.

In this episode Jenny and Kloe address a correction before launching into a takeover special: join Kloe, Nerys Rudder and Jane Henderson as they go to the ‘Changing the World: Approach, Strategy and the Future of University Museums' UMG conference and run around the newly refurbished Manchester Museum. 03:55 A correction from Jane 07:13 Other comments from listeners 12:19 Three conservators go to a conference 55:28 Patreon appeal Show Notes: - Manchester Museum: https://www.museum.manchester.ac.uk/ - UMG Spring Conference 2023: http://universitymuseumsgroup.org/events/save-the-date-manchester-2023/ - S13E02 Accreditation Part 1: https://thecword.show/2023/04/05/s13e02-accreditation-part-1/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, Jane Henderson and Nerys Rudder. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2023.

Together with special co-host Alison Lister we explore the private sector: from our workspaces to how we learn on the job. Join us for a catch-up on Jenny's adventures in business, along with Kloe's commercial experience and Alison's passionate call for us all to share more. Bridget Mitchell tells us about finding joy in your business and the power of positive thinking. Also tune in for an audio tour of Jenny's workspace and a round-up of the Museums + Heritage Show in London. 00:00:42 Wait, are we talking business again? 00:05:16 The old museum vs business conundrum 00:09:27 The importance of Time 00:15:48 What does a conservation space look like? 00:18:42 Why we need to make a fuss 00:27:55 Private practice is people work 00:33:13 How could we be supported to share more? 00:35:18 Training and professional development 00:46:26 The future of private practice 00:49:49 Jenny's round-up of the Museums + Heritage Show and Icon meet-up 00:55:18 Interview with Bridget Mitchell 01:04:43 Tour of Jenny's workspace 01:12:07 Patreon appeal Show Notes: - S11E04 Building a Business: https://thecword.show/2022/05/04/s11e04-building-a-business/ - S02E03 Freelancing: https://thecword.show/2017/09/22/s02e03-freelancing/ - Alison's company: https://textileconservation.co.uk/ - S09E08 Dyes in Conservation: https://thecword.show/2021/06/30/s09e08-dyes-in-conservation/ - Secrets of the National Trust: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secrets_of_the_National_Trust - Hidden Treasures of the National Trust (the one Jenny actually meant): https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/discover/film-tv/hidden-treasures-of-the-national-trust - Secrets of the Museum: https://www.vam.ac.uk/info/secrets-of-the-museum - The Repair Shop: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08l581p - Kickstart Scheme: https://www.kickstart-uk.com/ - S01E01 Demographics: https://thecword.show/2017/02/15/demographics/ - Museums + Heritage Show: https://show.museumsandheritage.com/ - Plowden winner Julie Dawson: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource/icon-emeritus-member-julie-dawson-wins-prestigious-plowden-medal-for-conservation.html - Marsh Charitable Trust awards: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource/winners-marsh-awards-for-conservation-2023.html - Follow Bridget on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arcapreservation/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Alison Lister. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2023.

We're joined by special guest host Stella Toonen as we explore a topic with many synonyms: public programming, outreach, adult learning, and so many more! We get enthused about ideas for events that conservation can get in on, and talk about the many pitfalls – and benefits – of co-creation in museums. 01:06 What's this episode about? 03:52 Stella's outreach journey 05:50 Kloe's experiences facilitating events 09:39 Jenny's experiences working with the public 13:27 Growing audiences and different offers 19:40 Examples of events for grown-ups 25:44 Saddling an artist with the work of museums 28:53 Stella's research around co-creation 35:09 Involve conservators early! 38:02 Inspo for learning events 46:03 Comments, questions, and corrections 53:49 Patreon appeal and shout out Show Notes: - Follow Stella here: https://twitter.com/StellaToonen - Stella's website: https://stellatoonencom.wordpress.com/ - S11E03 Working with Learning: https://thecword.show/2022/04/20/s11e03-working-with-learning/ - Heritage Open Days: https://www.heritageopendays.org.uk/ - S05E06 Touchy Feely: https://thecword.show/2019/05/29/s05e06-touchy-feely/ - Ladder of Participation explained: https://organizingengagement.org/models/ladder-of-citizen-participation/ - Tania Bruguera at the Tate: https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artists/tania-bruguera-11982 - Tate: https://www.tate.org.uk/ - The Whitworth: https://www.whitworth.manchester.ac.uk/ - Queens Museum: https://queensmuseum.org/ - Awards, grants and scholarships mentioned for students: https://www.artsscholars.org/awards-grants-scholarships Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Stella Toonen. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2023.

We're joined by curator Karen Logan as we talk about working with collections that stir up emotions and recent memories: from The Troubles in Northern Ireland to Brexit and activism. Also tune in for Kloe's thoughts and feelings on human remains and other displays as she visited Egypt in February. 04:00 How did this episode come about? 08:26 What are The Troubles? 15:40 What to include 18:10 Contemporary collecting 23:40 Including people is powerful 26:11 Audience differences 27:50 Collecting Brexit 32:24 Responding to challenges 39:49 Kloe's visit to NMEC 47:20 Patreon appeal and shout out Show Notes: - National Museums NI: https://www.nationalmuseumsni.org/ - The Troubles according to Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles - Collecting The Troubles and Beyond: https://www.nationalmuseumsni.org/resources/collecting-troubles-and-beyond - Collecting Cultures by NHLF: https://www.heritagefund.org.uk/about/insight/evaluation/collecting-cultures-evaluation - PHM collecting: https://phm.org.uk/collections/ - James Ellis (actor): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Ellis_(actor) - Nothing About Us Without Us exhibition: https://phm.org.uk/exhibitions/nothing-about-us-without-us/ - National Museum of Egyptian Civilization: https://nmec.gov.eg/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Karen Logan. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2023.

We have a chat amongst ourselves about the process of becoming an accredited conservator, as seen by two mid-career people staring at the application form in fear and distress. This episode contains snippets of both Jenny's and Kloe's thoughts on the very early stages of getting ready to even apply, being on the Pathway (PACR), and some of the notable barriers. Kloe also interviews Heather Doyle about how accreditation works and how it will be changing, and Dear Jane handles a question about how to pitch for more hours of work. 00:00:33 Jenny's long road on the Pathway 00:05:38 Kloe's speed-run 00:11:26 The murky history of accreditation 00:16:01 Evidence is everything 00:21:27 Reasons to go for it 00:23:41 Specialisms are made up 00:29:50 Jenny frets about things after a workshop 00:32:36 Kloe's commitment 00:37:17 Kloe's anxiety about specialisms and forms 00:40:49 Kloe's confused about mentors 00:42:08 Kloe discovers the Pathway 00:43:35 Kloe's funding issues 00:45:20 Interview with Heather Doyle 01:12:56 Postscript (sort of) 01:16:18 Dear Jane 01:23:59 Patreon shout out and appeal Show Notes: - All about Icon accreditation: https://www.icon.org.uk/accreditation.html - The Conservation Register: https://www.conservationregister.com/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson and Kloe Rumsey. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2023.

We talk to community-building conservator Melissa King about nurturing communication between collections care professionals and the growing preservation community at Conserv. Jenny also talks to heritage consultant Sarah Marsom about being a moderator online, and to chief exec Sara Crofts about Icon's use of Discord and Basecamp. Don't forget to tune in for a Dear Jane about getting some conservation experience in South Africa! 00:02:15 Web based communities and conservation 00:04:27 Whatever happened to forums? 00:09:44 Different ways and levels of engaging 00:10:50 Kloe feels clueless (but isn't really) 00:16:39 Developing communities for different audiences 00:20:05 Platform options out there 00:25:09 Being too afraid to post 00:31:11 Kloe joins the Conserv community 00:37:26 Jenny wants a Mastodon instance for conservators 00:40:17 Interview with Sarah Marsom 00:53:40 Interview with Sara Crofts 01:04:50 Dear Jane 01:12:24 Patreon shout out and funding plea Show Notes: - Join the Conserv Community here: https://community.conserv.io/join?invitation_token=18de977edaf111954e06b897a6ab0356181e1c1a-97dcab76-66ae-4e51-8831-e2d9f5d886f4 - Conserv: https://bit.ly/3TvkFfB - S09E04 Environmental Monitoring: https://thecword.show/2021/05/05/s09e04-environmental-monitoring/ - Conserv's upcoming conference: https://conserv.io/preservation-matters-2023/ - Conservation DistList archives: https://cool.culturalheritage.org/byform/mailing-lists/cdl/ - Global Conservation Forum: https://community.culturalheritage.org/communities/community-home?CommunityKey=ea3d002c-9fc3-4446-b7d2-c308f5faed13 - Online communities as defined by Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_community - Connecting to Collections Care community: https://connectingtocollections.org/ - ConCode: https://www.concode.info/ - A quick guide to Facebook Groups: https://www.lifewire.com/facebook-groups-4103720 - Discord: https://discord.com/ - Slack: https://slack.com/ - Circle: https://circle.so/ - Cardiff Conservation Graduates FB group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/132162183909/ - FREELANCE Conservators in Private Practice FB group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1679578638848189/ - Art Conservation Advocates FB group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/artconservationadvocates/ - Reddit's /r/MuseumPros: https://www.reddit.com/r/MuseumPros/ - Reddit's /r/ArtConservation: https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtConservation/ - A succinct explanation to the Fediverse: https://gist.github.com/joepie91/f924e846c24ec7ed82d6d554a7e7c9a8 - The GLAM server on Mastodon: https://glammr.us/ - Sarah Marsom: https://www.sarahmarsom.com/ - Historic Preservation Professionals FB group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/PreservationProfessionals - National Council of Public History on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/publichistorians - Basecamp: https://basecamp.com/ - Example of Cex Drop-In Session via Icon: https://www.icon.org.uk/events/cex-drop-in-session-april-2023-2.html - ICOM-CC open access papers treasure trove: https://www.icom-cc-publications-online.org/ - Studies in Conservation: https://www.iiconservation.org/publications/sic - JAIC: https://www.culturalheritage.org/publications/journal-(jaic) - JIC: https://www.icon.org.uk/resources/journal-of-the-institute-of-conservation.html - AICCM Bulletin: https://aiccm.org.au/publications/aiccm-bulletin/ - Thoughts on commercial taxidermy skills: https://blogs.cardiff.ac.uk/conservation/2310-2/ - Connect with Monique Vajifdar on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/monique-vajifdar-470025211/ - South African Museums Association: https://samuseums.co.za/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Melissa King. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2023.

As we huddle up in a pew with Dr Sarah Turner we talk about Christmas in cathedrals, play a parlour game of Five Things, and make some predictions for the year ahead. Kloe talks to Beth Gillions about her time as a caretaker at Westminster Chapel in winter, and Todd Wright sings our rendition of ‘Silent Night' for some extra feels. Also tune in for a review of ‘National Treasures: Saving the Nation's Art in World War II' from Jenny and a Dear Jane about pre-programme experience in the US. Happy holidays! 02:02 Uses of church spaces and collections around Christmas 08:59 Five Things parlour game 19:00 Annual predictions 24:19 Interview with Beth Gillions 32:27 Install Night (Christmas song) 34:22 Review: National Treasures 37:30 Dear Jane Show Notes: - Canterbury Cathedral: https://www.canterbury-cathedral.org/ - Lambeth conference: https://www.lambethconference.org/ - Vestments: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestment - Liturgical colours: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liturgical_colours - Jenny's favourite Disney film: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunchback_of_Notre_Dame_(1996_film) - Westminster Chapel: https://westminsterchapel.org.uk/ - More music by Todd Wright (our singer this year): https://open.spotify.com/artist/4774AfmqyBy6472bdgGD5F - National Treasures by Caroline Shenton: https://www.carolineshenton.co.uk/book/national-treasures-saving-the-nations-art-in-world-war-ii/ - Example of online volunteering (in the UK): https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/about/get-involved/volunteering/volunteering-opportunities/remote-opportunities/ - Repair cafe movement: https://www.repaircafe.org/en/ - State of NC Internship Program: https://ncadmin.nc.gov/public/internship-program-2023 *** Install Night (vocals by Todd Wright, lyrics by Kloe Rumsey, Beth Gillions, and Morgan Fox) Install night, loans done right Objects in crates, snug and tight, Weatherproof, padded with Plastazote foam, Labelled sections in temporary homes Acclimate them for install Acclimate them for install Install night, gloves in sight Forms laid out on which couriers will write, No change occurred on the journey here Loan reports for take-down next year Per diem and a budget meal Per diem and a budget meal *** Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Dr Sarah Turner. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2022.

Together with special co-host Sean Kelly we talk about all things redevelopment: from the strange sensation of taking things off display, to the joy of opening the doors, and why museum work never stops. Also tune in for interviews with Georgina Young from Manchester Museum, Alex Cropper from Manchester Jewish Museum, and Chris Weeks from Manx National Heritage. 00:00:51 What's happening in Paisley? 00:05:24 Putting collections in new places 00:07:44 The odd melancholy of a decant 00:13:47 Building design and collections care 00:19:21 How long does a big funding bid take? 00:23:04 Why do we redevelop and who decides? 00:29:06 The things people get upset about 00:39:51 How often do you redevelop? 00:45:27 Interview with Georgina Young 00:57:20 Interview with Alex Cropper 01:06:07 Interview with Chris Weeks Show Notes: - Paisley Museum and Art Galleries: https://paisley.is/paisley-museum-and-art-galleries/ - City of Culture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_City_of_Culture - Carmarthenshire Museums and an old Debenhams: https://newsroom.carmarthenshire.gov.wales/2022/08/former-debenhams-building-to-be-used-to-bring-together-key-public-services-all-under-one-roof/#.Y494XOzP2A4 - ALA projects: https://www.ala.uk.com/selected-projects/ - The Wellcome thread everyone got oddly upset about: https://twitter.com/ExploreWellcome/status/1596091202381975552 - Wellcome gallery closure statement: https://wellcomecollection.org/pages/Y4TdMBAAACMApB14 - Ipswich Museum redevelopment: https://ipswich.cimuseums.org.uk/ipswichmuseumredevelopment/ - People being angry at Ipswich redevelopment plans: https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/local-council/20706027.ipswich-museum-addresses-petition-reassures-history-will-preserved/ - Article Kloe was quoting: https://www.victoriansociety.org.uk/news/ipswich-museum-under-threat-from-historically-insensitive-redevelopment - What's happening to the old Museum of London site: https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2022/nov/27/museum-of-london-plans-to-demlish-site-bastion-house-sheppard-robson-diller-scofidio-renfro-centre-for-music - Manchester Museum's Hello Future redevelopment: https://www.museum.manchester.ac.uk/about/hellofuture/ - Manchester Jewish Museum: https://www.manchesterjewishmuseum.com/ - Manx National Heritage: https://manxnationalheritage.im/ - Isle of Man TT Gallery project: https://manxnationalheritage.im/about-us/isle-of-man-tt-gallery/ - Zenzie Tinker Conservation: https://www.zenzietinker.co.uk/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Sean Kelly. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2022.

Join us for another tranquil boat episode with conservator Pierrette Squires as we talk about time management. How do you estimate how long a treatment will take? How do you handle project slip, unexpected overtime, and an overflowing inbox? How do you structure the day when you're self-employed? Also tune in for a Dear Jane about stakeholders and furry friends. 00:02:51 Kloe's experience and approach 00:08:42 Building the skill of estimates 00:11:46 Jenny's struggles 00:16:21 The Out of Office message and emails 00:24:52 Pierrette's approach as a manager 00:30:36 Lists and calendars 00:44:35 Working with others (slight interference here) 00:47:50 Exceptional circumstances 00:53:11 Suddenly priority 00:59:04 Advice for beginners 01:00:45 Dear Jane 01:03:49 Comments, questions, and corrections Show Notes: - S12E05 Disability in Conservation: https://thecword.show/2022/11/09/s12e05-disability-in-conservation/ - Toggl: https://toggl.com/ - Adam Savage on check boxes and lists: https://www.wired.com/story/adam-savage-lists-more-lists-power-checkboxes/ - Example of a circular wall planner: https://www.theroundmethod.com/products/circular-calendar-digital-download-pdf - Visit our shop: https://www.thecword.show/shop Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Pierrette Squires. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2022.

Join us on a tranquil houseboat as we talk about being conservators with disabilities with special guest host Pierrette Squires. We share our various experiences and set the world to rights (with ducks in the background). Also tune in for a Dear Jane about accreditation, a tour of the new ‘Nothing About Us Without Us' exhibition with Kloe, and a review of ‘The Routledge Companion to Art and Disability' from Jenny. 00:01:35 Jenny's experiences 00:03:53 Pierrette's hearing loss 00:07:09 Kloe's struggles 00:12:46 Relating to others and appreciating yourself 00:17:55 Shout out to placement students with disabilities 00:19:17 Are there more disabled conservators now? 00:21:01 Recruitment and the fear of discrimination 00:25:37 How to be a more supportive workplace 00:33:33 How flexible working has transformed our health 00:36:40 Training ahead of an exhibition 00:42:21 How society (and conservation) disables us 00:44:00 Reactions to disability and access issues 00:52:29 Disability represented in museum collections 00:58:18 Access for visitors: lights, touch, and adjustments 01:07:00 CPD issues 01:11:34 Discussion of the AIC report 01:20:37 Dear Jane 01:26:20 Review: The Routledge Companion to Art and Disability 01:32:29 Kloe takes us behind the scenes Show Notes: - Equality Act 2010: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/equality-act-2010-guidance - Definition of disability under the Equality Act 2010: https://www.gov.uk/definition-of-disability-under-equality-act-2010 - Menieres disease: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/menieres-disease/ - S01E01 Demographics: https://thecword.show/2017/02/15/demographics/ - Adult ADHD screening test: https://adhduk.co.uk/adult-adhd-screening-survey/ - Work of the Icon Diversity & Inclusion Task & Finish Group: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource-report/diversity-and-inclusion-task-and-finish-group-report.html - Exhibition about disabled people's activism: https://phm.org.uk/exhibitions/nothing-about-us-without-us-3/ - Social vs medical model of disability: https://www.ombudsman.org.uk/sites/default/files/FDN-218144_Introduction_to_the_Social_and_Medical_Models_of_Disability.pdf - Greater Manchester Coalition of Disabled People: https://gmcdp.com/ - Spoon theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoon_theory - S05E06 Touchy Feely: https://thecword.show/2019/05/29/s05e06-touchy-feely/ - Accessibility in Conservation Survey report from AIC: https://www.culturalheritage.org/docs/default-source/publications/reports/survey-reports/accessibility-in-conservation-report.pdf - The Routledge Companion to Art and Disability: https://www.routledge.com/The-Routledge-Companion-to-Art-and-Disability/Watson-Hiles/p/book/9780367444785 Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Pierrette Squires. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2022.

Jenny and Kloe share some conservation horror stories, including mysterious tales of possessed equipment and phantasmal fans. Break it down to our Halloween song ‘The Monstrous Crash' and then wind down with a review of ‘Ghost Stories of the British Museum Audio Guide' by Noah Angell. Finally Jenny shares some pumpkin preservation tips for everyone's Halloween needs! 02:59 Can anyone offer us a haunted place to visit? 04:23 Jenny's possessed air quality monitor 06:40 Kloe's mysterious fan incident 15:26 What's the spookiest museum object you've ever come across? 19:16 What's the scariest thing you've found in the store? 27:50 The scariest job offers 29:50 Kloe's addendum on The Fan Incident 31:40 The Monstrous Crash 35:27 Review: Ghost Stories of the British Museum Audio Guide 38:02 Comments, questions, corrections 38:33 Pumpkin preservation Show Notes: - European Day of Conservation-Restoration: https://www.ecco-eu.org/european-day-of-conservation-restoration/ - S09E06 Leather: https://thecword.show/2021/06/02/s09e06-leather/ - S01E02 Human Remains: https://thecword.show/2017/03/15/s01e02-human-remains/ - S07E02 Frightful Beasts and Where to Find Them: https://thecword.show/2020/04/29/s07e02-frightful-beasts-and-where-to-find-them/ - Spitting Image (TV series): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spitting_Image - S02E05 Modern Materials: https://thecword.show/2017/10/18/s02e05-modern-materials/ - Meaco environmental monitoring (to verify hauntings): https://meaco.co.uk/ - Ghost Stories of the British Museum Audio Guide: https://music.apple.com/gb/album/ghost-stories-of-the-british-museum-audio-guide/1529228148 - S12E03 Gemstones and Minerals: https://thecword.show/2022/10/12/s12e03-gemstones-and-minerals/ - Making your jack-o-lantern last longer: https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/guides/how-to-make-your-pumpkins-last-longer/ *** The Monstrous Crash (vocals by Steve Waddington and the Case Kickers) I was working in the lab late one night, When an eerie noise gave me a fright I heard new voices I did not recognise, And suddenly to my surprise, There was a monstrous crash! Something reduced to trash I set off at a dash!
 What a monstrous crash! With gloves in hand I dashed down the hall
 No answers from paintings, hung upon the walls No response from the medieval gallery where An armoured suit gave me a steely glare... There was a monstrous crash! Something reduced to trash I set off at a dash!
 What a monstrous crash! This report will not be fun, telling bosses what's been done
 The mess might be abhorrent - my work may be undone! And I rounded the corner, in quite a fright,
 But just got stony looks from all the ammonites, Then the burial goods it was time to brave, Where votive figures are all silent as the grave There was a monstrous crash! Something reduced to trash I set off at a dash! What a monstrous crash! And at last at the gift shop I found the noise, Where the night guard who our museum employs, Had tripped over the soft toys' rack, but then, Said “Why are you here? It's 2am!” There was a monstrous crash! Something reduced to trash I set off at a dash! What a monstrous crash! So back to my office it was time to creep,
 The legionary in his coffin went back to sleep, But then I heard a distant, case-rattling roar... Probably the mould beast on the basement floor There was a monstrous crash! Something reduced to trash I set off at a dash! What a monstrous crash! Wah-ooh, argh, monstrous crash, no good, wah-ooh 
At least it's not as scary as china repairs done with sellotape… Wah-ooh, argh, monstrous crash, no good, wah-ooh Oops… My bad! *** Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson and Kloe Rumsey. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2022.

We're joined by the brilliant jewellery conservator Bill Hawkes for a dazzling episode about the history of gems, the usefulness of pretty stones, and the intriguing secrets of the jewellery industry. Also tune in for an interview with geological conservator Kate Andrew about the hidden dangers of rock samples and why you should never bin an old label! 01:43 What are minerals? 03:00 Uses of gemstones – light, fading, and lasers! 06:14 Famous diamonds and their history 10:38 Cutting gemstones now and in the past 14:09 More gemstone chemistry 26:27 Hardness vs toughness 33:05 How do you identify gemstones? 41:41 How mucky jewellery gets and cleaning strategies 46:59 What to do if you don't know what you've got 48:43 Pigments and other uses of minerals 52:22 Organic gemstones 56:35 Interview with Kate Andrew Show Notes: - S11E02 Metals (Part 2): https://thecword.show/2022/05/18/s11e05-metals-part-2/ - Bill's website: https://www.williamhawkes.co.uk/ - Lasers and gemstones: https://www.illinoisscience.org/2019/01/surprising-uses-gemstones-ruby-laser/ - Koh-i-Noor diamond: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koh-i-Noor - Cullinan diamond: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cullinan_Diamond - Black Prince's Ruby: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Prince%27s_Ruby - Mohs scale of hardness: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohs_scale_of_mineral_hardness - Gemstone colour chemistry: https://www.compoundchem.com/2014/06/29/what-causes-the-colour-of-gemstones/ - Gemmological Association of Great Britain: https://gem-a.com/ - National Association of Jewellers: https://www.naj.co.uk/ - Gemological Institute of America: https://www.gia.edu/ - Icon's guidance on geological specimens: http://natsca.org/sites/default/files/publications-full/care-and-conservation-of-geological-specimens.pdf Reading recommendations from Bill and Kate: - Gemstones by Cally Hall: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gemstones-Cally-Hall/dp/0241436184/ - The Retail Jeweller's Guide by Kenneth Blakemore: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Retail-Jewellers-Guide-Kenneth-Blakemore/dp/0719800331 - Care and Conservation of Geological Materials by Frank Howie: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Care-Conservation-Geological-Material-Meteorites/dp/0750603712/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and William Hawkes. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2022.

We have a gentle (but also angry) chat about the cost of living crisis, the impact on society, and how it affects us as conservators: both as self-employed people and as museum workers. Jenny also talks to Sharon Heal from the Museums Association, and Kloe reviews ‘Low Cost/No Cost Tips for Sustainability in Cultural Heritage' by Lorraine Finch. 01:57 Why are we NOT talking about this? 04:11 Jenny's lived experience of poverty 08:09 Why this is happening 11:01 Energy usage and greener thinking 13:10 Relief schemes, price caps and the impact on us 18:50 Interview with Sharon Heal 33:32 Some useful resources 43:59 Review: Low Cost/No Cost Tips for Sustainability in Cultural Heritage Show Notes: - AIM Cost of Living Survey: https://aim-museums.co.uk/aim-cost-living-survey/ - Museums and libraries to set up as warm banks: https://metro.co.uk/2022/08/22/libraries-and-museums-form-warm-refuges-amid-energy-crisis-17225833/ - Energy crisis may hamper museum plans of being ‘warm banks' this winter: https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2022/aug/31/uk-museums-rising-energy-costs-could-hamper-warm-banks-plan - Citizen Advice Bureau: https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/debt-and-money/get-help-with-the-cost-of-living/ - Business energy costs to be cut: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62969427 - Museums Journal piece on energy relief scheme: https://www.museumsassociation.org/museums-journal/news/2022/09/sector-welcomes-energy-relief-but-calls-for-ongoing-investment/ - Museums Association statement on cost of living crisis: https://www.museumsassociation.org/campaigns/advocacy/our-statement-on-the-cost-of-living-crisis/ - Managing the cost of living crisis (via MA Well-Being Hub): https://www.museumsassociation.org/careers/wellbeing-hub/managing-the-cost-of-living-crisis/ - Energy Bill Relief Scheme: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/energy-bill-relief-scheme-help-for-businesses-and-other-non-domestic-customers - Warm banks to get money from Welsh government: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-62968256 - Thread with ideas in collaboration with the Job Centre: https://twitter.com/eleanor_root/status/1564522591003578369 - Direct link to Google document with crowdsourced ideas: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PCdd3cPjgxH-Wd85TEXZBfqw2-ay7VjokTi1ekwHSMo/edit - S09E04 Environmental Monitoring: https://thecword.show/2021/05/05/s09e04-environmental-monitoring/ - S04E01 Going Green: https://thecword.show/2018/09/19/s04e01-going-green/ - S06E01 Conservation on a Budget: https://thecword.show/2019/09/18/s06e01-conservation-on-a-budget/ - Mayor asks museums to close two days per week: https://news.artnet.com/art-world/energy-crisis-european-museums-2170843 - Low Cost/No Cost Tips for Sustainability in Cultural Heritage: https://lfcp.co.uk/publications/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson and Kloe Rumsey. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2022.

Together with Beth Gillions we put on our best confidence clothes and talk about job interviews: what it's like asking the questions, what do you do when you forget everything about yourself, and what are the practical assessments like for job seeking conservators? We share our top tips and some great advice from our followers on Twitter too! 00:02:10 Kloe and Jenny's experiences of being on interview panels 00:05:37 “Is there anything you'd like to ask us?” 00:08:34 Everything we hate about interviews 00:10:47 How do you deal with nerves beforehand? 00:20:16 Being on the other side of the table 00:23:26 Typical questions you might come across 00:28:21 Getting the questions in advance 00:34:03 What do you do when your mind goes blank? 00:37:24 Different types of interviews 00:54:27 What to do after the interview 00:58:06 Asking for feedback 01:00:33 Our final top tips 01:02:34 Comments, questions and corrections 01:06:39 Patreon shout out Show Notes: - Follow Beth on Twitter: https://twitter.com/bethgillions - S05E05 Portfolio Extravaganza: https://thecword.show/2019/05/15/s05e05-portfolio-extravaganza/ - Twitter thread about dealing with nerves: https://twitter.com/thecwordpodcast/status/1518225244598816768 - Check out Icon News for ‘Moving On Up' career advice sections: https://www.icon.org.uk/resources/icon-news.html - Twitter thread about mind going blank: https://twitter.com/thecwordpodcast/status/1518907490125197312 - Twitter thread about follow-up and aftercare: https://twitter.com/thecwordpodcast/status/1522172504390832128 Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Beth Gillions. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2022.

Come along on a roadtrip to the Isle of Man with Jenny and Kloe! We take the ferry across the water, stay in an eco-friendly yurt village, and tour the island's heritage sites: we go behind the scenes with the Manx National Heritage conservators and enjoy the local sites. Special thanks to Chris Weeks and Emma Le Cornu for inviting us over! (Varied audio quality ahead, folks.) 00:00:55 Exploring the ferry and eating waffles on deck 00:02:13 Arriving in the eco village 00:04:50 Breakfast time! 00:05:31 Manx Museum 00:14:52 They found us! 00:23:30 Climate change 00:24:57 Sites to see on the island 00:29:24 Back in the conservation studio 00:48:26 Meeting Peggy 01:00:15 Snooping around the museum store 01:05:35 Exploring the archival side 01:14:00 Jenny spots a mysterious box 01:17:25 Peeking in the textiles store 01:18:57 Castletown in the rain 01:21:15 Cregneash village 01:25:00 Day out in Peel with Emma 01:29:27 Summing up our Saturday by the fire 01:30:35 Checking out 01:32:13 Laxey, big wheels and going under ground 01:39:47 Grove Museum of Victorian Life 01:50:38 Afternoon tea in Bride and a failed beach visit 01:53:39 Milntown Estate and Gardens 02:02:13 Back to the ferry Show Notes: - The ferry: https://www.steam-packet.com/ourvessels/ben-my-chree - Where Jenny and Kloe stayed: https://www.sabasglenyurt.com/ - Manx Museum: https://manxnationalheritage.im/our-sites/manx-museum/ - Conservation of the giant deer skeleton: https://manxnationalheritage.im/collections/conservation/conservation-of-the-giant-deer-skeleton/ - Illiam Dhone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illiam_Dhone - Manx cat breed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manx_cat - Manx National Heritage: https://manxnationalheritage.im/ - Culture Vannin: https://culturevannin.im/ - Learn Manx Gaelic: https://www.learnmanx.com/ - Isle of Man TT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Man_TT - Conservation of the Laxey Wheel: https://manxnationalheritage.im/news-2-2 - Wild wallabies: https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2021-10-13/the-mystery-of-the-wild-wallabies-living-on-the-isle-of-man - IMuseum: https://www.imuseum.im/ - Vida La Fierce: https://bearworldmag.com/anthony-meets-miss-vida-la-fierce/ - Zenzie Tinker Conservation: https://www.zenzietinker.co.uk/ - Archibald Knox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archibald_Knox_(designer) - Peggy on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peggy_of_Castletown - Peggy on Manx Heritage: https://manxnationalheritage.im/collections/conservation/news-2/ - Peggy's paint analysis: https://www.lincolnconservation.co.uk/projects/the-18th-century-sailing-yacht-peggy/ - Inergen fire suppression system: https://www.firesuppression.co.uk/inergen.aspx - Thermoskyships: https://www.airshipsonline.com/sheds/Jurby.htm - Cregneash: https://manxnationalheritage.im/our-sites/cregneash/ - Peel castle: https://manxnationalheritage.im/our-sites/peel-castle/ - Viking longboat races: https://www.visitiom.co.uk/events/world-championships/world-championship-viking-longboat-races/ - House of Manannan: https://manxnationalheritage.im/our-sites/house-of-manannan/ - Davison's ice cream: https://davisons.co.im/ - Trams: https://manxelectricrailway.co.uk/current-timetable/ - Laxey Wheel: https://manxnationalheritage.im/our-sites/laxey-wheel/ - Grove Museum of Victorian Life: https://manxnationalheritage.im/our-sites/grove-museum-of-victorian-life/ - Bride Tea Rooms and Bistro: https://bridetearooms.weebly.com/ - Point of Are: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_of_Ayre - Milntown: https://www.milntown.org/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson and Kloe Rumsey. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2022.

We're joined by Tom Hopkins and Louise McAward-White from Fair Museum Jobs as we grab the imaginary tin opener and get into one of our favourite cans of worms: zero hour contracts! We unpick what they are, how they're used in the heritage sector, why they're problematic, and how we can do better. 00:01:33 What is exactly is a zero hours contract? 00:11:00 Examples of when they're used 00:16:27 Which precarity is easier to manage? 00:18:48 The toll of constant job hopping on people 00:26:11 Conservation examples of ‘casual' contracts 00:37:31 The advert that sparked this whole episode 00:50:25 Join your union! 00:55:47 How we can influence things for the better 00:57:21 Feedback from Icon and what professional bodies can do 01:06:03 Kloe's fury 00:00:00 Patreon shout-out Show Notes: - Fair Museum Jobs: https://fairmuseumjobs.org/ - Go follow Fair Museum Jobs on Twitter: https://twitter.com/fair_jobs - UK government guidance on zero hours contracts: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/zero-hours-contracts-guidance-for-employers/zero-hours-contracts-guidance-for-employers and https://www.gov.uk/contract-types-and-employer-responsibilities/zero-hour-contracts - Real Living Wage: https://www.livingwage.org.uk/what-real-living-wage - Original V&A advert: https://app.vacancy-filler.co.uk/salescrm/Careers/CareersPage.aspx?e=LMo8nnTwYNYfjktgP-fk0v6HGHzjT7BnKoEpbcWUTJ9HNxQKjRUu0bwwoQNJy93jy5HLY4Ds_WQ&iframe=false&HideCareersLink=true - PDF copy of V&A advert: https://thecword.show/podcast/ConservationZeroHourWorkerPoolAdvert.pdf - Museum Freelance report: https://fairmuseumjobs.org/resources/ - Icon strategy: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource/icon-strategy.html - Icon Salaries Survey 2022: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource/conservation-salaries-survey-2022.html Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, Tom Hopkins and Louise McAward-White. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2022.

Join us for our triennial Icon conference special: an all online experience this time! Jenny tries to get into the spirit with croissants and rubbish coffee while Kloe is enjoying being able to multitask and dyeing fabrics while listening in. Also tune in for some impressions from the recent AIC conference. 04:32 Reaching out for recognition as a theme 08:50 Conference prices in the sector 10:17 Kloe is confused by tech 12:46 Catching up at the end of day one 17:12 Gearing up for day two 21:54 The unexpected blessing of being alone 22:31 Barely having time to eat lunch – a conference classic! 24:21 Round-up at end of day two 29:57 Feedback systems and our niggles 36:18 AIC conference interviews 45:56 Patreon shout out Show Notes: - Icon triennial conference programme 2022: https://www.icon.org.uk/about-us/our-work/icon-conferences/icon-conference-2022-reaching-out-for-recognition.html - S05E08 #Icon19 Conference Special: https://thecword.show/2019/06/26/s05e08-icon19-conference-special/ - Example of people who caption events: https://www.stagetext.org/ - APOYOnline network: https://apoyonline.org/en_US/ - Twitter conference hashtag search: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23IconReachOut22&src=typed_query - AIC at 50 conference: https://www.culturalheritage.org/events/annual-meeting/current-meeting Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson and Kloe Rumsey. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2022.

Together with special guest host Bill Hawkes we continue the topic of shiny things: metals! This time dealing with small objects and shiny trinkets. Kloe talks to Dr Eric Nordgren about archaeological metals, and Jenny reviews ‘Histories of Conservation and Art History in Modern Europe' as well. 00:01:27 From jewellery shops to the conservation workbench 00:05:20 Towards a sustainable alternative to silver dips 00:10:08 Values around tarnished surfaces 00:17:59 Advancements in modern metallurgy 00:22:03 The tricky nature of surfaces 00:27:08 The beauty of corrosion 00:30:11 From boring to fascinating to dangerous metals 00:36:28 Gemstones galore 00:40:22 Repair methods 00:44:55 Quills, thorns, feathers, and the common cocktail stick! 00:47:05 Interview with Dr Eric Nordgren 01:02:17 Review: Histories of Conservation and Art History in Modern Europe Show Notes: - S10E06 Metals (Part 1): https://thecword.show/2021/11/24/s10e06-metals-part-1/ - Bill's website: https://www.williamhawkes.co.uk/ - West Dean College's metalwork conservation specialism: https://www.westdean.org.uk/study/specialisms/metalwork - S10E03 Career Changes: https://thecword.show/2021/10/13/s10e03-career-changes/ - How silver dips work: https://www.canada.ca/en/conservation-institute/services/conservation-preservation-publications/canadian-conservation-institute-notes/care-silver.html - Argentium silver: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentium_sterling_silver - Rhodium plating: https://www.jewelryshoppingguide.com/everything-about-rhodium-plating/ - An example of the kind of toy restoration videos Jenny watches (warning, this is OTT!): https://www.youtube.com/c/baremetalHW/videos or https://www.youtube.com/c/RescueRestore - The Twitter thread mentioned: https://twitter.com/amaliasl/status/1523420586495516673 - Gemstone chemistry: https://www.compoundchem.com/2014/06/29/what-causes-the-colour-of-gemstones/ - Thorn usage in conservation: http://www.staffordshirehoard.org.uk/conservation-journal/using-thorns-to-conserve-the-hoard.html - Eric Nordgren: https://www.cardiff.ac.uk/people/view/2599291-nordgren-eric - Histories of Conservation and Art History in Modern Europe: https://www.routledge.com/Histories-of-Conservation-and-Art-History-in-Modern-Europe/Dupre-Boulboulle/p/book/9780367650070 Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and William Hawkes. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2022.

Together with special guest hosts Claire Fry and Lorraine Finch we take a walk on the private practice side of conservation: what's it like starting and running a business? Kloe has a zillion questions as Jenny airs her insecurities as a new business owner, while Claire and Lorraine share their entrepreneurial insights with us all. From networking to number crunching, we cover a lot of ground in this one! 00:01:50 How many conservators are self-employed? 00:07:04 The value of business support 00:14:24 Support structures: financial and emotional 00:18:36 You make the rules – and ALL the decisions 00:22:02 Insurance, cash flow, and pensions 00:28:12 Taxes and the joys of accountancy 00:32:48 Getting your name out there 00:40:05 Estimates don't last forever 00:42:33 Value your work, expertise, and time 00:47:22 Working with others 00:54:31 What's the best thing about running a business? 00:55:17 Quick addendum Show Notes: - Find Claire on LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/clairefry1 - Spencer and Fry: https://www.spencerandfry.co.uk/ - Lorraine Finch: https://lfcp.co.uk/ and https://uk.linkedin.com/in/lorraine-finch-8ba97540 - Jenny's business: https://kuriosa.co.uk/ - Find support in your local area: https://www.gov.uk/business-support-helpline - Business & IP Centre: https://www.bl.uk/business-and-ip-centre - Natwest Women in Business Support: https://www.natwest.com/business/business-services/women-in-business.html - S02E03 Freelancing: https://thecword.show/2017/09/22/s02e03-freelancing/ - Jenny's insurance broker: https://www.artinsurance.co.uk/ - Nest pensions: https://www.nestpensions.org.uk/ - Aviva pension for the self-employed: https://www.aviva.co.uk/retirement/retirement-planning/self-employed-pension/ - Xero accounting software: https://www.xero.com/uk/ - The Conservation Register: https://www.conservationregister.com/ - Museum Freelance report: https://fairmuseumjobs.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/36a00-museumfreelancesurveyfindingsandinsight2020.pdf - Running a community interest company in conservation: https://natsca.blog/2021/12/16/starting-a-social-business-connect-conserve-cyswllt-cadwraeth-cymru/ - Lorraine's book: https://lfcp.co.uk/publications/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, Lorraine Finch, and Claire Fry. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2022.

We're joined by special guest host and public engagement champion Clare Lawlor as we talk about learning in museums and at heritage sites. How do we talk to kids about difficult topics? What kind of learning spaces do we have access to? And what kind of magic happens when conservators and learning colleagues work together? Also tune in for a review of ‘The Conservation of Medieval Polychrome Wood Sculpture' and an interview with Jessica England from GEM. 02:10 Definitions and the importance of young visitors 09:13 Jenny's little museum shop anecdote 11:46 Making learning visible 13:51 Talking to kids about heavy topics 20:22 Working with conservation on new galleries 28:51 Learning spaces 40:22 Kloe and Jenny's experiences of working with learning teams 47:47 Interview with Jessica England 51:29 Review: The Conservation of Medieval Polychrome Wood Sculpture Show Notes: - Follow Clare on Twitter: https://twitter.com/_Clare_Lawlor - Imperial War Museums: https://www.iwm.org.uk/ - Learning with IWM: https://www.iwm.org.uk/learning - S07E04 Working with Techs: https://thecword.show/2020/05/27/s07e04-working-with-techs/ - S09E01 Working with Front of House: https://thecword.show/2021/03/24/s09e01-working-with-front-of-house/ - S10E02 Working with Curators: https://thecword.show/2021/09/29/s10e02-working-with-curators/ - The new Holocaust galleries mentioned: https://www.iwm.org.uk/events/the-holocaust-galleries - S02E08 Food: https://thecword.show/2017/11/29/s02e08-food/ - GEM: https://gem.org.uk/ - The Conservation of Medieval Polychrome Wood Sculpture – History, Theory, Practice: https://shop.getty.edu/products/the-conservation-of-medieval-polychrome-wood-sculpture-history-theory-practice-978-1606066553 Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Clare Lawlor. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2022.

Together with special guest hosts Dr David Leigh and Isobel Griffin we delve into the world of conservation standards: what are they, how do they come into being, and how are we using them? Kloe also talks to Jane Henderson about the importance of having many voices in the room and when people might start waving pitchforks around, and Jenny reviews ‘Greener Solvents in Conservation.' 00:03:01 Standards in day-to-day life as well as conservation 00:07:47 The birth of a standard 00:15:04 Reviews and the implications 00:17:53 Standards in the pipeline 00:23:03 Diversity in decision making 00:29:18 How to access standards for FREE 00:33:59 Professional standards or codes of practice vs established standards 00:36:29 The bewildering array of information in the world 00:42:45 Come contribute! 00:43:02 Interview with Jane Henderson 00:58:45 Review: Greener Solvents in Conservation – An Introductory Guide 01:03:58 Patreon shout-out Show Notes: - B/560 Conservation of Tangible Cultural Heritage committee: https://standardsdevelopment.bsigroup.com/committees/50001857 - British Standards Institute: https://www.bsigroup.com/en-GB/ - European Standards: https://www.en-standard.eu/ - Swedish Institute for Standards: https://www.sis.se/en/ - Standards bodies definition and list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standards_organization - Helen Hughes on working on standards: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource/helen-hughes-acr-working-on-site-during-coronavirus.html - Icon Documentation Network: https://www.icon.org.uk/groups-and-networks/documentation-network.html - Greatest hits book: https://www.beuth.de/en/publication/din-handbook-410/308401223 - Icon professional standards: https://www.icon.org.uk/resources/resources-for-conservation-professionals/standards-and-ethics/icon-professional-standards.html - What conservation standards are: https://www.icon.org.uk/resources/resources-for-conservation-professionals/standards-and-ethics/conservation-standards.html - ISO Standards: https://www.iso.org/standards.html - Spectrum collections management standard: https://collectionstrust.org.uk/spectrum/ - GIS standards: https://www.gistandards.eu/gis-standards/ - Royal Society of Chemistry Analytical Methods Committee: https://www.rsc.org/membership-and-community/connect-with-others/through-interests/divisions/analytical/amc/ - ASHRAE handbook for engineers: https://www.ashrae.org/technical-resources/ashrae-handbook - AIC Wiki: https://www.conservation-wiki.com/wiki/Main_Page - CCI Notes: https://www.canada.ca/en/conservation-institute/services/conservation-preservation-publications/canadian-conservation-institute-notes.html - More on standards regarding built heritage: https://www.buildingconservation.com/articles/standards/standards.htm - The Pitfalls and Possibilities of Standardisation (talk by Jane Henderson): https://markk-hamburg.de/from-conservation-to-conversation/workshop-contributions/ - James Acaster on the absurdity of the British Empire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x73PkUvArJY - S08E03 Returning Cultural Objects: https://thecword.show/2020/10/14/s08e03-returning-cultural-objects/ - Buy ‘Greener Solvents in Conservation' from the publisher: https://archetype.co.uk/our-titles/greener-solvents-in-conservation/?id=380 - Download ‘Greener Solvents in Conservation' for FREE: https://www.siconserve.org/greener-solvents/greener-solvents-hand-book/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, David Leigh, and Isobel Griffin. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2022.

With the help of special guest host Lisa Mol we talk about the impact of war and conflict on heritage: from stone research and training initiatives and all the way to saving Ukrainian digital heritage en-masse. We're also joined by Emma Cunliffe from Blue Shield, Sarah Stannage from IIC, and Richard Mulholland from Northumbria University as we discuss what's being done already and try to figure out how we can all help. 00:01:31 Explosives meet geology 00:05:50 Training over intervention 00:10:58 Priorities in war and its aftermath 00:16:13 Interview with Emma Cunliffe at Blue Shield 00:27:13 When is damage itself heritage? 00:32:08 Saving Ukraine's digital heritage 00:37:58 Looting 00:43:44 Interview with Sarah Stannage from IIC 00:50:13 Other funding, support and resources re: Ukraine 00:51:21 Addendum time! 00:53:05 Comfort-a-Conservator 00:55:59 Interview with Richard Mulholland 01:07:45 Go forth and do good Show Notes: - Heritage in the Crossfire: https://www.heritageinthecrossfire.com/ - Get in touch with Dr Lisa Mol: https://people.uwe.ac.uk/Person/LisaMol - S01E10 Salvage: https://thecword.show/2017/07/05/s01e10-salvage/ - Blue Shield International: https://theblueshield.org/ - Blue Shield UK: http://ukblueshield.org.uk/ - Emma's blog entry about her new book: https://boydellandbrewer.com/blog/heraldry-and-genealogy/safeguarding-cultural-property-in-the-1954-hague-convention-all-possible-steps/ - ‘Safeguarding Cultural Property and the 1954 Hague Convention' by Emma Cunliffe and Paul Fox: https://boydellandbrewer.com/9781783276660/safeguarding-cultural-property-and-the-1954-hague-convention/ - Examples of churches in Europe left in ruin after WW2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Ruins_of_churches_destroyed_during_World_War_II - Frederik Rosén's publication list (as mentioned by Lisa): https://www.heritageconflict.org/frederik - Saving Ukrainian Cultural Heritage Online (SUCHO): https://www.sucho.org/ - Iraq Museum Looting 15 Years On: https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2018/04/10/iraq-museum-looting--15-years-on.html - IIC Opportunities Fund: https://www.iiconservation.org/about/awards/opportunities - IIC official Ukraine update page: https://www.iiconservation.org/content/how-ukraine-moving-protect-its-cultural-heritage-updated-22-march-2022 - Nordiska Museet fund for Ukrainian museums: https://www.nordiskamuseet.se/artiklar/ekonomisk-insamling-att-radda-ukrainas-kulturarv - Call for supplies for Ukrainian heritage protection: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource/supplies-needed-to-protect-ukraine-s-cultural-heritage.html - Icon's Support for Ukraine page: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource/support-for-ukraine-conserving-cultural-heritage.html - Icon's Ukraine event on March 24th 2022: https://www.icon.org.uk/events/ukraine-supporting-cultural-heritage-and-conservation-colleagues.html - About Richard's work: https://research.northumbria.ac.uk/VisualMaterialCultures/?page_id=534 - Richard's paper in Studies in Conservation: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/epub/10.1080/00393630.2022.2025706?needAccess=true Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Lisa Mol. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2022.

Let's get into the festive spirit with our special co-host Anna Ploszajski as we explore festive facts, Christmas chemistry, and merry materials! We make some predictions for the year ahead, and of course there's a collections themed holiday song to bob along to. Happy holidays! 00:02:43 Hideous treasures all around us 00:11:13 Christmas tree decorations – old and new! 00:22:31 Tinsel themed nightmares 00:26:42 Lights, candles, and twinkly stuff 00:34:25 Tableware for days 00:40:21 Cakes and puddings 00:42:34 Christmas crackers 00:49:10 Fake snow and leaky snowglobes 00:53:23 Last year's predictions and ones for 2022 01:01:11 Rocking Around the Christmas Tree (Museum Version) Show Notes: - Find out more about Anna's work: https://www.annaploszajski.com/ - The aroma of Christmas trees: https://www.compoundchem.com/2014/12/19/christmastrees/ - Mr Bean vs the ornaments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W91IK06uv5E - The evolution of tinsel: http://www.compoundchem.com/2017advent/2017advent24/ - How silvering is achieved: https://www.compoundchem.com/2017/09/06/silver-mirror/ - S09E05 Dynamic Objects: https://thecword.show/2021/05/19/s09e05-dynamic-objects/ - S02E08 Food: https://thecword.show/2017/11/29/s02e08-food/ - V&A blog about the history of crackers: https://www.vam.ac.uk/articles/the-christmas-cracker - Christmas cracker chemistry: https://www.compoundchem.com/2013/12/24/christmas-cracker-chemistry/ - How wrapping paper is made: http://www.madehow.com/Volume-6/Wrapping-Paper.html - Fake snow chemistry: https://www.compoundchem.com/2017advent/2017advent7/ - Museum Freelance network closes: https://www.museumsassociation.org/museums-journal/news/2021/11/museum-freelance-network-to-close/ - Go buy Anna's book: https://www.annaploszajski.com/book - Jenny reviewing Anna's book in a previous episode: https://thecword.show/2021/05/19/s09e05-dynamic-objects/ *** Rocking Around the Christmas Tree: the Museum Version (lyrics by Jenny Mathiasson and Morgan Fox; vocals by Skye) Skulkin' around the gallery At the Christmas working do Watching for spills that you can see Or objects gone askew Walkin' around the Christmas tree Let pheromone pest traps swing Later we'll sneak some extra tea And we'll do some tidying You will get a sentimental feeling when you hear Voices going, where's that dolly? Pop that object on this trolley Wrappin' things up in acid free For a popular display Everyone chattin' happily Raiding gift shop and cafe You will get a sentimental feeling when you hear Voices going, where's that dolly? Pop that object on this trolley Walkin' around our objects store Seein' a thing not put away Finally hoovering the floor Roll on the holiday! *** Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Anna Ploszajski. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2021.

C is for: Can We Get Rid…? Sometimes museums just can't keep everything – so what happens then? Together with guest host Emma Duggan we explore both the practicalities and our feelings around objects leaving collections. Also tune in for an interview with Ian Channell and Abigail Johnson from Epping Forest District Museum about their museum's rationalisation journey. 00:01:58 Our experiences with rationalisation of collections 00:07:17 Why might something leave a collection? 00:10:48 Taking in objects with limited life spans 00:15:17 Knowing what you've got 00:23:07 Resources and guidance 00:25:56 Where does conservation fit into this? 00:29:45 Scrutiny of the public and people's opinions 00:34:38 Interview: Ian Channell and Abigail Johnson 01:01:00 Bite-sized is fine 01:06:28 The issue of institutional memory 01:09:30 We can't collect like we used to 01:18:49 Language matters – what do we call this process? 01:20:35 Finding new homes for objects Show Notes: - S09E02 Extreme Storage: https://thecword.show/2021/04/07/s09e02-extreme-storage/ - An example of why selling your collection is a bad idea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northampton_Sekhemka_statue - Museums Association Disposal Tool Kit: https://www.museumsassociation.org/campaigns/collections/disposal-toolkit/ - Collections Trust resource page on deaccessioning and disposal: https://collectionstrust.org.uk/spectrum-resources/deaccession-and-disposal/ - The sculpture Emma mentioned: https://wellcomecollection.wordpress.com/2014/02/26/perspectives-i-cant-help-the-way-i-feel/ - S08E03 Returning Cultural Objects: https://thecword.show/2020/10/14/s08e03-returning-cultural-objects/ - Epping Forest District Museum: https://www.eppingforestdc.gov.uk/museum/ - Press release for Rationalisation Project: https://www.eppingforestdc.gov.uk/museum/exciting-new-project-for-museums-collection/ - Article from Museums Essex about the project: https://museums-essex.org/2021/06/16/relevance-rationalise-and-recycle-epping-forest-district-museum-project/ - S02E01 Danger, Danger: https://thecword.show/2017/08/23/s02e01-danger-danger/ - Find-an-Object: https://www.museumsassociation.org/find-an-object/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Emma Duggan. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2021.

Together with conservator Lucy Branch we iron out some of the issues around big chunks of metal: from bronze trying to injure people to the trouble with coatings! Also tune in for a Dear Jane about being your authentic self, and a review of ‘Modern Metals in Cultural Heritage' from Jenny. 01:38 Wait, is bronze a possessed metal? 05:53 Health and safety – lead and iron 11:51 Dealing with outdoor objects 18:54 Let's talk coatings and longevity! 23:44 Corrosion indoors 26:25 ‘Cleaning' metals and authenticity 32:58 Corrosion in intriguing places 38:24 Getting metal back into shape 48:24 Dear Jane 54:21 Review: Modern Metals in Cultural Heritage – Understanding and Characterization Show Notes: - Check out Lucy's work: https://antiquebronze.co.uk/ - Man With Arms Open: https://canarywharf.com/artwork/giles-penny-man-with-arms-open/ - Modern Metals in Cultural Heritage – Understanding and Characterization: https://shop.getty.edu/products/modern-metals-in-cultural-heritage-br-understanding-and-characterization-978-1606066058 and https://www.amazon.co.uk/Modern-Metals-Cultural-Heritage-Characterization/dp/1606066056 Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Lucy Branch. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2021.

We talk about our creaking joints and aching muscles with special guest host Emma Le Cornu, who is both a conservator and a yoga instructor. Kloe talks about carpal tunnel woes, Jenny shares her pain management journey, and Emma gives us all some exercises to try out at work. Also tune in for a Dear Jane about careers derailed by the pandemic. Look after yourselves, folks! 01:38 In which ways are we broken? 12:59 Conservation as a physical job 16:27 The importance of movement 19:09 Colleagues' reactions 21:16 Emma's yoga journey 26:24 Managing and looking after others 33:45 Answers from Twitter 40:52 Some exercises to try out 55:51 Dear Jane Show Notes: - Follow Emma on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emmallecornu/ - Yoga with Adriene: https://www.youtube.com/user/yogawithadriene - Carpal tunnel syndrome: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/carpal-tunnel-syndrome/ - Repetitive strain injury: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/repetitive-strain-injury-rsi/ - Sarah and Emma's Twitter paper Get Up to Get Down from #IconTC in 2019: https://twitter.com/elecornu/status/1202203422407241728 - Just One Thing with Michael Mosley – Exercise Less, More Often: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000zljp - Example of workstation assessment commonly found in workplaces: https://www.hse.gov.uk/msd/dse/assessment.htm - Jenny's rocking kneeling chair (approximately): https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ergonomic-Kneeling-Wooden-Kneeler-Adjustable/dp/B08R6WWGKL/ - Twitter polls mentioned: https://twitter.com/thecwordpodcast/status/1455152475674234889 + https://twitter.com/thecwordpodcast/status/1455476445841592322 + https://twitter.com/thecwordpodcast/status/1455902290376806407 - S03E04 Looking After Your Conservator: https://thecword.show/2018/05/02/s03e04-looking-after-your-conservator/ Emma's top stretches to do at work 1. Wrists – praying stretch, self-massage – squeeze the toothpaste tube https://www.healthline.com/health/chronic-pain/wrist-and-hand-stretches 2. Neck – look up, down, side to side, ear to shoulder with opposite arm extended out to side3. Upper back – twist from waist hold onto back of your chair 4. Feet – roll out on tennis ball or broom handle, sitting, or standing for more pressure 5. Balance – stand on one leg, try it with your eyes closed 6. Body scan – notice what feels good as well as not so good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNfv4UDBk6w 7. Squats (start with sitting down on a chair then getting back up without using your hands for help) go for 10 reps – leg muscle strengthener, core strengthener – protects joints, knees, increases ankle mobility, leg muscles are key to good mobility and everyday movements, also helps to maintain good posture 8. Legs up the wall – takes pressure off feet and veins in legs, drains fluids, also acts as a leg stretch Other advice from Emma: - Carrying something heavy in each hand around the house/studio, called a farmers carry – good for grip strength and overall strength! - For those who enjoy running, joining a Parkrun - gamifies exercise, get milestone t-shirts, be part of a community, volunteering opportunities: https://www.parkrun.com/ - Hand eye body – coordination exercises: https://www.handeyebody.com/ - Walking barefoot, standing barefoot outside - Change up your routine – the brain likes novelty! - Breathing out slowly – calms the nervous system Emma recommends following: - Jenni Rawlings: https://www.instagram.com/jenni_rawlings/ - Lara Heiman LYT Yoga: https://www.instagram.com/lara.heimann/ - Hand Eye Body: https://www.instagram.com/handeyebody/ - FinolaPhysio: https://www.instagram.com/finolaphysio/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Emma Le Cornu. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2021.

Join us as we take a seat by an imaginary fireplace in a creepy old house and trade stories of hauntings, hazards, and house ghosts with special guest Aly Singh. We get interrupted by trick-or-treaters and feel unsettled by sudden changes in RH! Jenny also talks to historian Sheldon K. Goodman about Cemetery Club and to conservator Kathrine Graf about gravestones and churchyards. Also tune in for a creepy cocktail at the Benchwork Bar! 00:02:55 Jenny loves bats 00:04:16 Poetry intermission and touring ghosts 00:10:42 Getting to know your ghosts - and paranormal pets! 00:14:23 More ghost sightings at museums and historic properties 00:34:51 Things that genuinely scare conservators 00:38:16 Aly shares some spooky tour stories 00:42:58 Cemeteries and their charms 00:52:38 Interview with Sheldon K. Goodman 01:05:33 Interview with Kathrine Graf 01:16:55 Benchwork Bar: The Spider Bite 01:20:22 Patreon shout out Show Notes: - S08E04 Halloween special: https://thecword.show/2020/10/28/s08e04-halloween-special/ - Ingenium: https://ingeniumcanada.org/ - Haunted Walk of Ottawa: https://hauntedwalk.com/ottawa-tours/ - Aly Singh: https://www.alysingh.com/ - Historic England guidance on bats in buildings: https://historicengland.org.uk/advice/technical-advice/buildings/building-works-and-bats/ - S03E04 Churches: https://thecword.show/2018/04/18/s03e03-churches/ - Poem by True's Yard Museum: https://twitter.com/Truesyardmuseum/status/1445721982784491520 - ABK does Every Haunted House Movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIwDqRXec4s - A list of haunted museums (mostly in America): https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/70356/10-supposedly-haunted-museums - Another list of haunted museums and historic houses (this time in the UK): https://www.artfund.org/whats-on/more-to-see-and-do/listicles/halloween-haunted-museums-houses - Ghost in the window at Hampton Court Palace: https://www.hrp.org.uk/hampton-court-palace/history-and-stories/historic-hauntings-at-hampton-court-palace/ - Top 10 Haunted Objects in Museums: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5pwS-E5rv4 - Great Bed of Ware: https://www.vam.ac.uk/articles/great-bed-of-ware - 10 Things That Terrify Archivists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2S2J5kIb-M - Ghosts – Spooky Stories and Eerie Encounters from the National Trust: https://www.abebooks.co.uk/9781905400379/Ghosts-Spooky-Stories-Eerie-Encounters-1905400373/plp - ‘Life After Death' article from the Museums Journal (paywall): https://www.museumsassociation.org/museums-journal/features/2021/07/life-after-death/ - Paris catacombs: https://www.catacombes.paris.fr/en - St. Agatha's Catacombs in Malta: https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attraction_Review-g190326-d313276-Reviews-St_Agatha_s_Crypt_Catacombs_Museum-Rabat_Island_of_Malta.html - Sheldon K. Goodman: https://www.sheldonkgoodman.com/ - Cemetery Club: https://cemeteryclub.wordpress.com/ - Go follow Sheldon on Twitter: https://twitter.com/sheldonkgoodman - Harold Mytum's blog: https://hmytum.wordpress.com/historical-mortuary-archaeology/ - Discovering England's Burial Spaces: http://www.debs.ac.uk/ - Connect with Kathrine: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathrine-graf-4b310aa6/ - Go follow Amanda on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ConserveItAll Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Aly Singh. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2021.

Together with special guest host Erin Foster we discuss the careers people have had before finding conservation, why they might have switched, and why so many of us find out about conservation a little later in life. Also tune in for an apprenticeship update from Icon and a review of ‘Managing Change in Museums and Galleries' from Jenny. 01:16 Why do people come to conservation later in life? 05:06 What did WE do (or intend to do) in a previous life 10:18 Stories from listeners 20:59 Career aptitude tests and advice at the right age 33:23 An update on apprenticeships 36:09 Sharing and demystifying 38:46 More listener stories 42:40 Review: Managing Change in Museums and Galleries Show Notes: - Follow Erin on Twitter: https://twitter.com/travelconserve - Ötzi the iceman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96tzi - Jonathan Ashley-Smith's interview about craft skills: https://thecword.show/2017/04/26/s01e05-emerging-professionals/ - More about conservation apprenticeships: https://www.icon.org.uk/training/conservation-apprenticeships.html - Operation Night Watch: https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/whats-on/exhibitions/operation-night-watch - Managing Change in Museums and Galleries – A Practical Guide: https://www.routledge.com/Managing-Change-in-Museums-and-Galleries-A-Practical-Guide/Bienkowski-McGowan/p/book/9780367858506 Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Erin Foster. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2021.