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In this episode, host Corey Nathan shares a candid reflection about a recent encounter where he was right on the facts and the law—but completely wrong in how he presented them. Yet if we're honest with ourselves about when we make mistakes, it's a good opportunity to learn, reminding us that how we communicate is just as important as what we communicate. What You'll Learn: Why being right on the law isn't enough in a conversation How righteous anger can derail productive dialogue Why due process matters for everyone—especially those who aren't guilty of crimes Tools for engaging in hard conversations with empathy and curiosity How the Constitution and Judeo-Christian values intersect in public discourse Episode Highlights: [00:02:00] Corey introduces the story and the key lesson he learned [00:05:00] Breakdown of the Alien Enemies Act and a real legal case [00:06:45] A stranger challenges Corey at a restaurant [00:07:30] Corey "goes Jersey" and loses his cool [00:13:00] What due process really protects and why it matters [00:16:00] How Isaac Saul, David Brooks, and Mónica Guzmán inspired a better way to respond [00:18:00] Reading the First and Fifth Amendments to ground the conversation Featured Quotes: "I was completely right on the facts, but I was completely wrong on the delivery." — Corey Nathan "Due process is there for the innocent just as much as the guilty—even more so for the innocent." — Corey Nathan "Ask at least three questions before making your point." — inspired by Isaac Saul

In this deeply moving episode, Corey Nathan welcomes Rabbi Sharon Brous, the senior and founding rabbi of IKAR, a groundbreaking Jewish community based in Los Angeles. Rabbi Brous is also the author of The Amen Effect: Ancient Wisdom to Heal Our Hearts and Mend Our Broken World. Together, they explore ancient traditions, mental health, spiritual leadership, and how to foster deeper, more compassionate human connections even across profound divides. What We Discuss: The ancient ritual of turning toward the brokenhearted and its modern relevance. The profound impact of being seen and embraced in moments of vulnerability. How leaders carry and process communal pain—and why that matters. Practical wisdom on staying curious and compassionate across ideological divides. The role of community design in spiritual experiences. Episode Highlights: [00:01:00] Rabbi Brous explains the Mishnah Middot and the ritual of turning toward the brokenhearted. [00:08:00] Corey and Rabbi Brous discuss the concept of sin as a burden like mental illness. [00:15:00] The transformative power of being truly seen and how crying makes space for new realities. [00:20:00] Rabbi Brous reflects on the toll leadership can take and how caregivers must process pain. [00:24:00] The design of IKAR's prayer space and how it fosters visibility and community. [00:34:00] Navigating discomfort with changes in religious leadership and traditions. [00:42:00] How to stay at the table with those who hurt or anger us—and why it's critical. [00:53:00] A powerful story about transformation through simple presence and blessing. Featured Quotes: "Sometimes you don't even want to get out of bed. Yet, sacred tradition compels us to show our brokenness—and trust that we will be held with love." — Rabbi Sharon Brous "If you don't metabolize pain, it will metastasize inside of you." — Rabbi Sharon Brous "We can create new neural and spiritual pathways—by allowing ourselves to be seen and to receive love." — Rabbi Sharon Brous "It takes courage to be curious about someone who hurt you, but that's the only way to heal." — Rabbi Sharon Brous Resources Mentioned: The Amen Effect by Rabbi Sharon Brous: https://ikar.org/the-amen-effect/the-big-idea/ IKAR Jewish Community: https://www.ikar.org/ How to Know a Person by David Brooks: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/652822/how-to-know-a-person-by-david-brooks/ Fierce Love by Rev. Dr. Jacqui Lewis: https://jacquijlewis.com/fierce-love/ I Never Thought of It That Way by Mónica Guzmán: https://www.moniguzman.com/book

In this heartfelt and wide-ranging episode, host Corey Nathan sits down with a very special guest — his own son, Emerson Riley Nathan. Together, they dive into Gen Z's unique perspective on faith, politics, and culture. As a young adult navigating the complexities of belief, identity, and creativity, Emerson offers refreshing candor about his spiritual journey, social views, and passion for music. This conversation is an inspiring look at how different generations can engage in meaningful, respectful dialogue. What You Will Learn: Insights into Gen Z's evolving relationship with faith and spirituality How Emerson balances skepticism and open-mindedness about religion The impact of politics and social media on young people's worldview How music and community-building are vital for mental health and connection The dynamic of a father and son having open, vulnerable discussions about big life questions Episode Highlights: [00:01:00] – Emerson's "graveyard shift" lifestyle and its impact on his creativity [00:03:00] – Emerson shares his journey growing up between Christianity and Judaism [00:07:00] – How the 2012 election and political polarization shaped Emerson's views [00:11:00] – Moving away from organized religion and questioning traditional beliefs [00:20:00] – Emerson's current agnostic beliefs and embracing uncertainty about the afterlife [00:27:00] – The healing power of kindness and defining what it means to be good [00:32:00] – Emerson's passion for dubstep, rave culture, and community through music [00:45:00] – Corey and Emerson discuss responsible adulthood, fatherhood, and finding purpose [00:59:00] – How politics today have created both division and a sense of helplessness Resources Mentioned: Sugar Magnacious on Instagram Debased Sound on Instagram

In this episode of Trailer Geeks and Teaser Gods, host Corey Nathan welcomes Yuhei Ogawa, an accomplished editor, creative director, and host of the new podcast Creative. Kind. Yuhei shares his creative journey, reflecting on his career in film marketing, the inspiration behind his podcast, and the importance of kindness and emotional reflection in the creative industry. Together, Corey and Yuhei dive into the nuances of maintaining mental health, building community, and sustaining creativity in an ever-evolving and demanding entertainment landscape. What You Will Learn: How Yuhei Ogawa transitioned from hip-hop dancing and unscripted TV editing into creative advertising. The personal and emotional inspiration behind the Creative. Kind. podcast. The challenges and importance of sustaining creative endeavors over time. The role of kindness and vulnerability in the creative industries. How Yuhei's experiences during the pandemic reshaped his outlook on community and mental health. Insights into Yuhei's creative process and reflections on the future of the industry, including AI's role. Episode Highlights: [00:01:00] Corey introduces Yuhei and dives straight into discussing Creative. Kind. and Yuhei's creative motivations. [00:04:00] Corey and Yuhei reflect on the struggles of sustaining creative work and staying patient with oneself. [00:09:00] Yuhei shares how the pandemic spurred him to reassess his career and the importance of in-person connections. [00:14:00] Yuhei discusses discovering his daughter's emotional world through family therapy and how it changed his understanding of empathy. [00:27:00] Corey shares his journey with meditation and mental health, emphasizing the life-changing power of mindfulness. [00:35:00] Yuhei recounts his path from hip-hop dancer to becoming a respected trailer editor. [00:49:00] Working with international talent on Tokyo Vice and how creative collaboration across borders enriched his work. [01:01:00] Yuhei reflects on the impact of AI on the creative industry and philosophical questions about the nature of art. Featured Quotes: “The important thing is to just do it for yourself and keep pushing, no matter how little by little.” – Yuhei Ogawa “Kindness is a practice about thinking about other people and how that permeates what we do day in and day out.” – Yuhei Ogawa “It's okay that this is happening. Just be present with it.” – Yuhei Ogawa (on the power of meditation and noting emotions) “If there's no process, no human interaction, no struggle—then I don't think it's art.” – Yuhei Ogawa Resources Mentioned: Creative. Kind. Podcast - instagram.com/creativekindpod Headspace Meditation App Yuhei's Website Greg Harrison's Substack on AI Our Sponsors:   The Golden Trailer Awards: goldentrailer.com/   Brent Allen Hagel: www.brentallenhagel.com Soundstripe: app.soundstripe.com Make It Universal and Rotten Tomatoes presents SEEN on the SCREEN: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuq_rgCzEP_Ne0W0nk6R66sYFGr1Jrzqe Call to Action: Please leave us a rating and review:  https://apple.co/3QYy80e You can find Corey on all the socials @coreysnathan such as www.linkedin.com/in/coreysnathan. Want to hear how the best in the business craft the world's most exciting movie trailers? Tune in every week to Trailer Geeks and Teaser Gods!

In this solo episode, host Corey Nathan takes a deep dive into one of the foundational guidelines we've used in curating conversations both in person and online: handling misinformation. Corey reflects on his experiences moderating political and religious discussions, the evolution of social media moderation, and the fine balance between protecting free speech and maintaining civil discourse. We invite listeners into an honest exploration of free expression, civic engagement, and fostering better conversations, even with those we deeply disagree with. What We Discuss: Why it could be worth rethinking the rule to report and remove proven falsehoods from these forums. The importance of understanding the First Amendment and time, place, and manner restrictions on free speech. How maintaining civil discourse matters more than ever, even with the spread of misinformation. Reflections on the lessons learned from controversial public conversations, like Gavin Newsom's podcast guests and protests on college campuses. How personal experiences during the pandemic and political unrest shaped Corey's approach to moderating tough conversations. Episode Highlights: [00:03:00] Corey's initial set of rules for moderating conversations on social media. [00:08:00] Why platforms like Meta and Twitter are no longer actively flagging misinformation. [00:10:00] Revisiting the meaning of the First Amendment and its application to private forums. [00:18:00] Discussing time, place, and manner restrictions in the context of campus protests and public demonstrations. [00:23:00] Reflecting on the events of January 6th and the perpetuation of election fraud narratives. [00:36:00] Learning from Gavin Newsom's engagement with controversial figures like Steve Bannon and Charlie Kirk. [00:43:00] Why civil engagement—even with those we strongly disagree with—might be more powerful than silencing falsehoods. [00:52:00] Corey's updated stance: allowing proven falsehoods to remain visible for educational and relational purposes. Featured Quotes: "Congress shall make no law... but that doesn't mean I, a private individual, can't curate conversations in my own forums." "When we disagree is when it's most important to protect free speech."  "Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Let the worst ideas stand up to scrutiny."  "Staying in relationship with those we disagree with gives us a better chance to understand and grow."  Resources Mentioned: The Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE) Gavin Newsom's Podcast

In this solo episode, host Corey Nathan takes a deep dive into one of the foundational guidelines we've used in curating conversations both in person and online: handling misinformation. Corey reflects on his experiences moderating political and religious discussions, the evolution of social media moderation, and the fine balance between protecting free speech and maintaining civil discourse. We invite listeners into an honest exploration of free expression, civic engagement, and fostering better conversations, even with those we deeply disagree with. What We Discuss: Why it could be worth rethinking the rule to report and remove proven falsehoods from these forums. The importance of understanding the First Amendment and time, place, and manner restrictions on free speech. How maintaining civil discourse matters more than ever, even with the spread of misinformation. Reflections on the lessons learned from controversial public conversations, like Gavin Newsom's podcast guests and protests on college campuses. How personal experiences during the pandemic and political unrest shaped Corey's approach to moderating tough conversations. Episode Highlights: [00:03:00] Corey's initial set of rules for moderating conversations on social media. [00:08:00] Why platforms like Meta and Twitter are no longer actively flagging misinformation. [00:10:00] Revisiting the meaning of the First Amendment and its application to private forums. [00:18:00] Discussing time, place, and manner restrictions in the context of campus protests and public demonstrations. [00:23:00] Reflecting on the events of January 6th and the perpetuation of election fraud narratives. [00:36:00] Learning from Gavin Newsom's engagement with controversial figures like Steve Bannon and Charlie Kirk. [00:43:00] Why civil engagement—even with those we strongly disagree with—might be more powerful than silencing falsehoods. [00:52:00] Corey's updated stance: allowing proven falsehoods to remain visible for educational and relational purposes. Featured Quotes: "Congress shall make no law... but that doesn't mean I, a private individual, can't curate conversations in my own forums." "When we disagree is when it's most important to protect free speech."  "Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Let the worst ideas stand up to scrutiny."  "Staying in relationship with those we disagree with gives us a better chance to understand and grow."  Resources Mentioned: The Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE) Gavin Newsom's Podcast

In this episode, host Corey Nathan welcomes back Monica Guzmán, Senior Fellow for Public Practice at Braver Angels, host of A Braver Way podcast, CEO of Reclaim Curiosity, and author of I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times. Monica's mission is to help bridge America's political divides through fearless curiosity. With deep reflections on the 2024 election, evolving friendships across ideological lines, and her renewed commitment to bridge building, Monica shares how we can stay grounded and connected—especially when it feels impossible. What We Discuss: How Moni processes political polarization and stays grounded—even when the world feels divided Practical strategies for engaging with people across ideological lines without compromising your values Why shared outrage across political lines can be a gateway to unity The role of empathy, humility, and curiosity in depolarizing conversations How journalists and moderators can better navigate falsehoods without censoring legitimate concerns Episode Highlights: [00:03:00] – Mónica explains how her emotional radar helps her know when to seek out conversations with people who see politics differently. [00:08:00] – Unexpected agreement: conservatives and liberals are both frustrated with Congressional dysfunction and executive overreach. [00:14:00] – Moni shares how talking with people who had different experiences during COVID reshaped her understanding and empathy. [00:21:00] – Corey and Mónica discuss boundaries in bridge building—when is it time to walk away from a relationship? [00:29:00] – Moderating contentious conversations: “police the structure, not the content.” [00:36:00] – The relationship between activism and dialogue—and why one without the other can be reckless or ineffective. [00:46:00] – Tips for recognizing quality journalism and avoiding emotionally manipulative content. [00:56:00] – Mónica's closing advice: engagement is not endorsement. Curiosity and conversation don't mean you're compromising your values. Featured Quotes: “I've been persuaded over and over again that positions against mine are not ludicrous.” – Mónica Guzmán “Engagement is not endorsement. Having a conversation doesn't mean you're capitulating.” – Mónica Guzmán “Find your edge—and push it. That's all you need to do to build a bridge.” – Mónica Guzmán “I don't want a decision or a position to get in the way of our relationship. I want to understand it better.” – Corey Nathan Resources Mentioned: I Never Thought of It That Way by Monica Guzmán - moniguzman.com/book Braver Angels - braverangels.org

In this episode, host Corey Nathan welcomes back Monica Guzmán, Senior Fellow for Public Practice at Braver Angels, host of A Braver Way podcast, CEO of Reclaim Curiosity, and author of I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times. Monica's mission is to help bridge America's political divides through fearless curiosity. With deep reflections on the 2024 election, evolving friendships across ideological lines, and her renewed commitment to bridge building, Monica shares how we can stay grounded and connected—especially when it feels impossible. What We Discuss: How Moni processes political polarization and stays grounded—even when the world feels divided Practical strategies for engaging with people across ideological lines without compromising your values Why shared outrage across political lines can be a gateway to unity The role of empathy, humility, and curiosity in depolarizing conversations How journalists and moderators can better navigate falsehoods without censoring legitimate concerns Episode Highlights: [00:03:00] – Mónica explains how her emotional radar helps her know when to seek out conversations with people who see politics differently. [00:08:00] – Unexpected agreement: conservatives and liberals are both frustrated with Congressional dysfunction and executive overreach. [00:14:00] – Moni shares how talking with people who had different experiences during COVID reshaped her understanding and empathy. [00:21:00] – Corey and Mónica discuss boundaries in bridge building—when is it time to walk away from a relationship? [00:29:00] – Moderating contentious conversations: “police the structure, not the content.” [00:36:00] – The relationship between activism and dialogue—and why one without the other can be reckless or ineffective. [00:46:00] – Tips for recognizing quality journalism and avoiding emotionally manipulative content. [00:56:00] – Mónica's closing advice: engagement is not endorsement. Curiosity and conversation don't mean you're compromising your values. Featured Quotes: “I've been persuaded over and over again that positions against mine are not ludicrous.” – Mónica Guzmán “Engagement is not endorsement. Having a conversation doesn't mean you're capitulating.” – Mónica Guzmán “Find your edge—and push it. That's all you need to do to build a bridge.” – Mónica Guzmán “I don't want a decision or a position to get in the way of our relationship. I want to understand it better.” – Corey Nathan Resources Mentioned: I Never Thought of It That Way by Monica Guzmán - moniguzman.com/book Braver Angels - braverangels.org

In this episode, host Corey Nathan reconnects with his longtime friend Gary Keifer, an expat currently living in Peru. Gary brings a refreshingly honest and “untethered” perspective to U.S. politics, unfiltered by party loyalty or institutional affiliation. With a background in comedy, improv, and theater, Gary offers thoughtful insights rooted in personal experience and global observations. The conversation spans topics from immigration and working-class politics to why Gary abstained from discussing American politics for years—until now. Together, Corey and Gary exemplify what it means to engage in civil discourse across ideological lines. What We Discuss: Why Gary calls himself an "untethered expat" and what that means for his political views. How the Clinton-era Democratic strategy toward the working class contributed to the rise of Trump. Why immigration is the central issue Gary believes needs urgent resolution—and how both parties have failed on it. The limitations of elite political commentary and the value of everyday perspectives. Why Trump's populism appeals to working-class voters despite his billionaire status. The potential dangers of overreaching political mandates and ignoring opposing voices. Episode Highlights: [00:02:00] – Corey introduces Gary, a longtime friend with a unique expat perspective on U.S. politics. [00:04:30] – Gary explains his belief in choosing “common people” over public figures for meaningful conversations. [00:08:00] – Why Gary broke his two-year vow of not discussing U.S. politics. [00:10:30] – How Bill Clinton's shift away from labor shaped modern political realignment. [00:16:00] – A comedic (and thought-provoking) take on Trump's origin story and Steve Bannon's influence. [00:30:00] – Gary criticizes both parties for exploiting immigration and creating a caste system. [00:34:00] – Corey and Gary analyze Biden's early decisions and whether reversing Trump-era immigration policies was a political mistake. [00:45:00] – The bipartisan immigration deal Trump blocked—and what it reveals about political strategy. [01:00:00] – Gary pleads: “Just give Trump the win on immigration so we can move on.” Featured Quotes: “Fascism doesn't just appear out of nowhere. It fills a void left by something else.” – Gary Keifer “You can't skip Chapter One of fascism—how we got here matters.” – Gary Keifer “Compromise is the substrate of democracy.” – Corey Nathan “At the end of the day, we're just regular guys trying to have conversations most people are avoiding.” – Corey Nathan

In this episode, host Corey Nathan reconnects with his longtime friend Gary Keifer, an expat currently living in Peru. Gary brings a refreshingly honest and “untethered” perspective to U.S. politics, unfiltered by party loyalty or institutional affiliation. With a background in comedy, improv, and theater, Gary offers thoughtful insights rooted in personal experience and global observations. The conversation spans topics from immigration and working-class politics to why Gary abstained from discussing American politics for years—until now. Together, Corey and Gary exemplify what it means to engage in civil discourse across ideological lines. What We Discuss: Why Gary calls himself an "untethered expat" and what that means for his political views. How the Clinton-era Democratic strategy toward the working class contributed to the rise of Trump. Why immigration is the central issue Gary believes needs urgent resolution—and how both parties have failed on it. The limitations of elite political commentary and the value of everyday perspectives. Why Trump's populism appeals to working-class voters despite his billionaire status. The potential dangers of overreaching political mandates and ignoring opposing voices. Episode Highlights: [00:02:00] – Corey introduces Gary, a longtime friend with a unique expat perspective on U.S. politics. [00:04:30] – Gary explains his belief in choosing “common people” over public figures for meaningful conversations. [00:08:00] – Why Gary broke his two-year vow of not discussing U.S. politics. [00:10:30] – How Bill Clinton's shift away from labor shaped modern political realignment. [00:16:00] – A comedic (and thought-provoking) take on Trump's origin story and Steve Bannon's influence. [00:30:00] – Gary criticizes both parties for exploiting immigration and creating a caste system. [00:34:00] – Corey and Gary analyze Biden's early decisions and whether reversing Trump-era immigration policies was a political mistake. [00:45:00] – The bipartisan immigration deal Trump blocked—and what it reveals about political strategy. [01:00:00] – Gary pleads: “Just give Trump the win on immigration so we can move on.” Featured Quotes: “Fascism doesn't just appear out of nowhere. It fills a void left by something else.” – Gary Keifer “You can't skip Chapter One of fascism—how we got here matters.” – Gary Keifer “Compromise is the substrate of democracy.” – Corey Nathan “At the end of the day, we're just regular guys trying to have conversations most people are avoiding.” – Corey Nathan

In this episode of Trailer Geeks and Teaser Gods, host Corey Nathan welcomes two industry powerhouses: Brett Winn, owner and CEO of RAVE Collective, and partner, Ben Andron, Head of Creative Advertising. Brett returns to the show, while Ben is taking his maiden voyage on the TG&TG cruise ship. From humble beginnings to big screen brilliance, this episode traces their unique career paths, shared philosophies, and the launch of their exciting new venture. What We Discuss: The unexpected origin stories of two trailer industry leaders How early career decisions shape creative leadership The importance of culture and kindness in a creative agency Why now was the right time to launch RAVE The role of humility, mentorship, and tenacity in business growth Episode Highlights: [00:02:00] Brett recalls the early days of starting Refinery AV and feeling unsure about the leap [00:05:00] Ben shares his unconventional journey from Florida to LA, and how a teaching connection got him his first gig [00:08:00] Serendipitous paths: Ben and Brett worked at the same place (Trailer Park) without knowing it [00:11:00] Ben's evolution from copywriting to producing, and eventually, writing a successful Off-Broadway play [00:21:00] Brett's leap into trailer editing and reflections on early leadership roles at Trailer Park [00:33:00] The pivotal moment of recognizing that leadership is about cultivating culture [00:40:00] The inside story of how Brett and Ben decided to partner [00:45:00] How their aligned values made the transition smooth and created a new, exciting chapter for their team Featured Quotes: “I remember we had margaritas every Friday… because I was like, we made it another week.” – Brett Winn “Having other creative outlets—writing, running, martial arts—makes me better at my job.” – Ben Andron “What are people going to say to my kids about me? That's always been my moral compass.” – Brett Winn “Happy people are creative people. You can't do this job if you're not having fun.” – Ben Andron Our Sponsors:  Make It Universal and Rotten Tomatoes presents SEEN on the SCREEN: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuq_rgCzEP_Ne0W0nk6R66sYFGr1Jrzqe  The Golden Trailer Awards: goldentrailer.com/   Brent Allen Hagel: www.brentallenhagel.com Soundstripe: app.soundstripe.com   Call to Action: Check out RAVE Collective: www.ravecollective.com Please leave us a rating and review:  https://apple.co/3QYy80e You can find Corey on all the socials @coreysnathan such as www.linkedin.com/in/coreysnathan. Want to hear how the best in the business craft the world's most exciting movie trailers? Tune in every week to Trailer Geeks and Teaser Gods!

In this conversation, host Corey Nathan welcomes back Peter Wehner, contributing writer at The Atlantic and The New York Times, senior fellow at the Trinity Forum, and author of multiple books including The Death of Politics and City of Man. A former speechwriter for President George W. Bush, Pete brings a unique perspective shaped by his deep political experience, Christian faith, and unwavering moral compass. Together, Corey and Pete engage in a wide-ranging conversation on the 2024 election, the moral health of our nation, the role of the church, and the constitutional implications of a second Trump presidency. What We Discuss: How Pete Wehner processed the pivotal moments of the 2024 election, including Biden's withdrawal and Kamala Harris's campaign Why Donald Trump's reelection reveals unsettling truths about American society and the church How constitutional crises might unfold under Trump's second term Why thinkers like Vaclav Havel, Solzhenitsyn, and Tocqueville are essential guides in this political moment How to have more effective and empathetic conversations across political and religious divides Episode Highlights: [00:01:00] – Introduction to Pete Wehner's background and career [00:02:00] – Pete reflects on Biden's debate performance and why he felt Biden should have withdrawn sooner [00:05:00] – Analysis of Kamala Harris's campaign, debate performance, and what ultimately cost her the election [00:09:00] – The moral reckoning: what Trump's reelection says about American voters and the church [00:14:00] – Pete dissects why evangelicals have remained loyal to Trump and how rationalizations took hold [00:27:00] – A 30-page email exchange: Pete's attempt to reason with a high-profile Trump supporter and what it revealed [00:34:00] – Trump's “appetite for revenge”: Pete outlines troubling actions already taken in just 60 days of Trump's second term [00:41:00] – Defining a constitutional crisis and what happens when a president defies court rulings [00:46:00] – Finding hope and moral clarity through leaders like Havel, Solzhenitsyn, and Tocqueville [00:50:00] – The TP&R question: Pete's insights on how to build better conversations across our differences Featured Quotes: “Donald Trump is president because of the white evangelical vote. He touched something deep in the hearts of many Christians—and that should trouble us.” – Peter Wehner “Hope is not the conviction that something will turn out well; it's the certainty that something makes sense, regardless of how it turns out.” – Vaclav Havel (quoted by Pete) “We're moving toward a constitutional crisis... If Trump defies a court order, we may find out how many divisions Chief Justice John Roberts really has.” – Peter Wehner “We have to prioritize human relationships. The ripple effects for the country can be healthy.” – Peter Wehner Resources Mentioned: Peter Wehner's articles in The Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/author/peter-wehner/ Peter Wehner's columns in The New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/column/peter-wehner “The Power of the Powerless” by Vaclav Havel: https://www.nonviolent-conflict.org/resource/the-power-of-the-powerless/ The Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn: https://www.amazon.com/Gulag-Archipelago-1918-1956-Experiment-Investigation/dp/0061253804 Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/815/815-h/815-h.htm

In this conversation, host Corey Nathan welcomes back Peter Wehner, contributing writer at The Atlantic and The New York Times, senior fellow at the Trinity Forum, and author of multiple books including The Death of Politics and City of Man. A former speechwriter for President George W. Bush, Pete brings a unique perspective shaped by his deep political experience, Christian faith, and unwavering moral compass. Together, Corey and Pete engage in a wide-ranging conversation on the 2024 election, the moral health of our nation, the role of the church, and the constitutional implications of a second Trump presidency. What We Discuss: How Pete Wehner processed the pivotal moments of the 2024 election, including Biden's withdrawal and Kamala Harris's campaign Why Donald Trump's reelection reveals unsettling truths about American society and the church How constitutional crises might unfold under Trump's second term Why thinkers like Vaclav Havel, Solzhenitsyn, and Tocqueville are essential guides in this political moment How to have more effective and empathetic conversations across political and religious divides Episode Highlights: [00:01:00] – Introduction to Pete Wehner's background and career [00:02:00] – Pete reflects on Biden's debate performance and why he felt Biden should have withdrawn sooner [00:05:00] – Analysis of Kamala Harris's campaign, debate performance, and what ultimately cost her the election [00:09:00] – The moral reckoning: what Trump's reelection says about American voters and the church [00:14:00] – Pete dissects why evangelicals have remained loyal to Trump and how rationalizations took hold [00:27:00] – A 30-page email exchange: Pete's attempt to reason with a high-profile Trump supporter and what it revealed [00:34:00] – Trump's “appetite for revenge”: Pete outlines troubling actions already taken in just 60 days of Trump's second term [00:41:00] – Defining a constitutional crisis and what happens when a president defies court rulings [00:46:00] – Finding hope and moral clarity through leaders like Havel, Solzhenitsyn, and Tocqueville [00:50:00] – The TP&R question: Pete's insights on how to build better conversations across our differences Featured Quotes: “Donald Trump is president because of the white evangelical vote. He touched something deep in the hearts of many Christians—and that should trouble us.” – Peter Wehner “Hope is not the conviction that something will turn out well; it's the certainty that something makes sense, regardless of how it turns out.” – Vaclav Havel (quoted by Pete) “We're moving toward a constitutional crisis... If Trump defies a court order, we may find out how many divisions Chief Justice John Roberts really has.” – Peter Wehner “We have to prioritize human relationships. The ripple effects for the country can be healthy.” – Peter Wehner Resources Mentioned: Peter Wehner's articles in The Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/author/peter-wehner/ Peter Wehner's columns in The New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/column/peter-wehner “The Power of the Powerless” by Vaclav Havel: https://www.nonviolent-conflict.org/resource/the-power-of-the-powerless/ The Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn: https://www.amazon.com/Gulag-Archipelago-1918-1956-Experiment-Investigation/dp/0061253804 Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/815/815-h/815-h.htm

In this episode, host Corey Nathan sits down with Charlie Sykes, a prominent conservative commentator, former talk radio host, and founder of The Bulwark, who's currently writing and podcast on his excellent Substack To the Contrary. Known for his sharp political insights and willingness to challenge the current trajectory of the Republican Party, Charlie discusses the erosion of democratic norms, the transformation of conservatism, and what the future holds for both parties.

In this episode, host Corey Nathan sits down with Charlie Sykes, a prominent conservative commentator, former talk radio host, and founder of The Bulwark, who's currently writing and podcasting on his excellent Substack To the Contrary. Known for his sharp political insights and willingness to challenge the current trajectory of the Republican Party, Charlie discusses the erosion of democratic norms, the transformation of conservatism, and what the future holds for both parties.

In this episode, host Corey Nathan shares his candid thoughts on hope, concerns about the state of democracy, and the importance of engaging in meaningful conversations. Inspired by recent discussions with David French and Charlie Sykes, Corey explores whether he remains hopeful about the future—both at the national level and in his local community. What You Will Learn The state of American democracy and the balance of power How the First Amendment is being threatened Why the judicial branch has been a critical check on executive overreach The role of civil discourse in bridging ideological divides How personal relationships offer reasons for hope Episode Highlights [00:00:00] – Introduction: Exploring the question of hope in today's political climate [00:01:30] – Why Corey is concerned about the balance of power in government [00:05:00] – The judicial branch as a key safeguard against executive overreach [00:07:30] – Threats to First Amendment rights, including freedom of speech and the press [00:12:00] – The rise of online hostility and how it impacts public discourse [00:18:00] – Finding hope through local engagement and personal relationships [00:22:00] – The power of human connection in bridging political divides Featured Quotes "I have concerns about the balance of power and our First Amendment rights—but that doesn't mean I'm without hope."  "When we engage with each other at the local level, it becomes about relationships instead of transactions."  "If we really want to change things, we have to start by recognizing each other's humanity." 

In this episode, host Corey Nathan shares his candid thoughts on hope, concerns about the state of democracy, and the importance of engaging in meaningful conversations. Inspired by recent discussions with David French and Charlie Sykes, Corey explores whether he remains hopeful about the future—both at the national level and in his local community. What You Will Learn The state of American democracy and the balance of power How the First Amendment is being threatened Why the judicial branch has been a critical check on executive overreach The role of civil discourse in bridging ideological divides How personal relationships offer reasons for hope Episode Highlights [00:00:00] – Introduction: Exploring the question of hope in today's political climate [00:01:30] – Why Corey is concerned about the balance of power in government [00:05:00] – The judicial branch as a key safeguard against executive overreach [00:07:30] – Threats to First Amendment rights, including freedom of speech and the press [00:12:00] – The rise of online hostility and how it impacts public discourse [00:18:00] – Finding hope through local engagement and personal relationships [00:22:00] – The power of human connection in bridging political divides Featured Quotes "I have concerns about the balance of power and our First Amendment rights—but that doesn't mean I'm without hope."  "When we engage with each other at the local level, it becomes about relationships instead of transactions."  "If we really want to change things, we have to start by recognizing each other's humanity." 

Can we bridge the partisan divide and have constructive dialogue about politics and religion with "them" - people who have different beliefs about democracy, politics and religion? Are we able to simply have civil, civic conversations?  (We're grateful to have a number of new listeners. So we thought it'd be good to revisit this episode that was first aired just after the inauguration.) In this edition, host Corey Nathan explores how we can have meaningful, respectful, and productive conversations with those who think differently from us—politically, religiously, and ideologically. After four years of hosting the show and speaking with a wide array of guests, Corey shares his own insights, offering seven practical tools (plus a bonus tip) for engaging with “one of them” in a way that fosters connection rather than division. What Is Discussed How to give yourself and others grace in difficult conversations The importance of setting proper expectations when discussing sensitive topics Why asking the right questions is more powerful than having the perfect comeback How storytelling can humanize those with whom we disagree The value of being open to the phrase "I never thought of it that way" How to recognize when it's time to step away from a conversation or to love someone "from a safe distance" Resources and organizations that can help you navigate difficult discussions Episode Highlights ⏳ [00:02:00] – Reviews from listeners: the good, the bad, and the constructive ⏳ [00:05:00] – The purpose of this episode: sharing tools for engaging with "one of them" ⏳ [00:06:00] – Tool #1: Grace – Accepting that we will all make mistakes in these conversations ⏳ [00:09:00] – Tool #2: Proper Expectations – Why we shouldn't expect to change someone's mind 180 degrees ⏳ [00:12:00] – Tool #3: Asking Questions – Learning from Jesus' approach of responding with questions ⏳ [00:20:00] – Tool #4: Storytelling – The power of narrative in understanding each other as human beings ⏳ [00:25:00] – Tool #5: Being Open to "I Never Thought of It That Way" Moments ⏳ [00:32:00] – Tool #6: Recognizing Your Line – Knowing when to step away from an unhealthy dynamic ⏳ [00:35:00] – Tool #7: Equipping Yourself – Books, organizations, and resources for learning how to engage better ⏳ [00:38:00] – Bonus Tip: Taking Care of Yourself – Mental, emotional, and physical well-being in this work Featured Quotes

Can we bridge the partisan divide and have constructive dialogue about politics and religion with "them" - people who have different beliefs about democracy, politics and religion? Are we able to simply have civil, civic conversations?  (We're grateful to have a number of new listeners. So we thought it'd be good to revisit this episode that was first aired just after the inauguration.) In this edition, host Corey Nathan explores how we can have meaningful, respectful, and productive conversations with those who think differently from us—politically, religiously, and ideologically. After four years of hosting the show and speaking with a wide array of guests, Corey shares his own insights, offering seven practical tools (plus a bonus tip) for engaging with “one of them” in a way that fosters connection rather than division. What Is Discussed How to give yourself and others grace in difficult conversations The importance of setting proper expectations when discussing sensitive topics Why asking the right questions is more powerful than having the perfect comeback How storytelling can humanize those with whom we disagree The value of being open to the phrase "I never thought of it that way" How to recognize when it's time to step away from a conversation or to love someone "from a safe distance" Resources and organizations that can help you navigate difficult discussions Episode Highlights ⏳ [00:02:00] – Reviews from listeners: the good, the bad, and the constructive ⏳ [00:05:00] – The purpose of this episode: sharing tools for engaging with "one of them" ⏳ [00:06:00] – Tool #1: Grace – Accepting that we will all make mistakes in these conversations ⏳ [00:09:00] – Tool #2: Proper Expectations – Why we shouldn't expect to change someone's mind 180 degrees ⏳ [00:12:00] – Tool #3: Asking Questions – Learning from Jesus' approach of responding with questions ⏳ [00:20:00] – Tool #4: Storytelling – The power of narrative in understanding each other as human beings ⏳ [00:25:00] – Tool #5: Being Open to "I Never Thought of It That Way" Moments ⏳ [00:32:00] – Tool #6: Recognizing Your Line – Knowing when to step away from an unhealthy dynamic ⏳ [00:35:00] – Tool #7: Equipping Yourself – Books, organizations, and resources for learning how to engage better ⏳ [00:38:00] – Bonus Tip: Taking Care of Yourself – Mental, emotional, and physical well-being in this work Featured Quotes

In this timely edition of Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other, host Corey Nathan welcomes Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde, the Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington, D.C., and the Washington National Cathedral. Bishop Budde is a well-respected spiritual leader who has appeared on PBS NewsHour, Meet the Press, Good Morning America, and The Today Show. The conversation dives into Bishop Budde's faith journey, her reflections on political and social issues, and her approach to leading with grace and courage in divisive times. The discussion also touches on the controversy surrounding her sermon and how she directly addressed Donald Trump at the National Cathedral following the 2025 presidential inauguration. What We Discuss Bishop Budde's personal faith journey, from her early religious experiences to her leadership in the Episcopal Church. The challenges of navigating faith, politics, and national unity in today's polarized climate. How to extend grace and practice mercy even in the face of criticism. The role of the church in advocating for social justice, particularly regarding immigration and LGBTQ+ rights. Strategies for engaging in difficult conversations while maintaining mutual respect. Episode Highlights [00:00:00] – Introduction to the episode and guest, Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde. [00:02:00] – Bishop Budde shares her faith journey and the struggles she faced reconciling different religious influences. [00:10:00] – The tension between faith and exclusivity: why some versions of Christianity felt limiting to her. [00:15:00] – The discipline of grace: choosing to respond with compassion rather than anger, even when faced with opposition. [00:26:00] – Bishop Budde's response to the 2025 presidential inauguration sermon controversy and the importance of speaking truth with love. [00:38:00] – Handling criticism and maintaining a sense of personal and spiritual balance. [00:52:00] – Finding hope in uncertain times: How we can cultivate a spirit of resilience and faith amid societal challenges. [00:55:00] – The importance of dialogue: How to foster better conversations across political and religious differences. [01:03:00] – Final thoughts and how to follow Bishop Budde's work. Featured Quotes "If it's not about love, it's not about God." – Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde "The discipline of grace is a practice, not a gift. It's about choosing to respond with love even when it's difficult." – Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde "To be raised from the dead—whatever that means in our own lives—requires our consent to live again, to have our hearts broken again, and to take on all of life again." – Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde "We need to ask ourselves: When was the last time I changed my mind? True dialogue requires being open to seeing the world differently." – Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde Resources Mentioned Bishop Budde's Book: How We Learn to Be Brave Episcopal Diocese of Washington – www.edow.org

In this timely edition of Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other, host Corey Nathan welcomes Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde, the Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington, D.C., and the Washington National Cathedral. Bishop Budde is a well-respected spiritual leader who has appeared on PBS NewsHour, Meet the Press, Good Morning America, and The Today Show. The conversation dives into Bishop Budde's faith journey, her reflections on political and social issues, and her approach to leading with grace and courage in divisive times. The discussion also touches on the controversy surrounding her sermon and how she directly addressed Donald Trump at the National Cathedral following the 2025 presidential inauguration. What We Discuss Bishop Budde's personal faith journey, from her early religious experiences to her leadership in the Episcopal Church. The challenges of navigating faith, politics, and national unity in today's polarized climate. How to extend grace and practice mercy even in the face of criticism. The role of the church in advocating for social justice, particularly regarding immigration and LGBTQ+ rights. Strategies for engaging in difficult conversations while maintaining mutual respect. Episode Highlights [00:00:00] – Introduction to the episode and guest, Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde. [00:02:00] – Bishop Budde shares her faith journey and the struggles she faced reconciling different religious influences. [00:10:00] – The tension between faith and exclusivity: why some versions of Christianity felt limiting to her. [00:15:00] – The discipline of grace: choosing to respond with compassion rather than anger, even when faced with opposition. [00:26:00] – Bishop Budde's response to the 2025 presidential inauguration sermon controversy and the importance of speaking truth with love. [00:38:00] – Handling criticism and maintaining a sense of personal and spiritual balance. [00:52:00] – Finding hope in uncertain times: How we can cultivate a spirit of resilience and faith amid societal challenges. [00:55:00] – The importance of dialogue: How to foster better conversations across political and religious differences. [01:03:00] – Final thoughts and how to follow Bishop Budde's work. Featured Quotes "If it's not about love, it's not about God." – Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde "The discipline of grace is a practice, not a gift. It's about choosing to respond with love even when it's difficult." – Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde "To be raised from the dead—whatever that means in our own lives—requires our consent to live again, to have our hearts broken again, and to take on all of life again." – Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde "We need to ask ourselves: When was the last time I changed my mind? True dialogue requires being open to seeing the world differently." – Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde Resources Mentioned Bishop Budde's Book: How We Learn to Be Brave Episcopal Diocese of Washington – www.edow.org

In this episode, host Corey Nathan takes on one of the biggest challenges in today's society: toxic partisanship. He explores how political and social divisions have deepened, fueled by media, social networks, and entrenched ideological battles. But rather than just diagnosing the problem, Corey offers a powerful antidote—getting local and engaging in real-life, face-to-face conversations. He draws inspiration from scholars like Jonathan Haidt, Katherine Stewart and Robert Putnam, as well as his personal experiences, to make a compelling case for community-based solutions to polarization. What We Discuss ✅ The real extent of political division in America—and why it's not as bad as it seems ✅ How social media and national narratives exaggerate our differences ✅ The philosophy of Carl Schmitt and its impact on modern political discourse ✅ Why local engagement—like city council meetings, PTAs, and even bar conversations—is the key to bridging divides ✅ Practical steps to foster meaningful discussions and rebuild relationships Episode Highlights ⏳ [00:02:00] – The growing problem of toxic partisanship and how social media makes it worse ⏳ [00:05:00] – A study from More in Common shows Americans want unity, but doubt the other side does ⏳ [00:09:00] – Corey shares personal examples of online political attacks and how they reflect broader polarization ⏳ [00:14:00] – A key solution: Local engagement and organizations like Village Square ⏳ [00:17:00] – How shared community goals, like better roads and schools, help bridge ideological divides ⏳ [00:20:00] – The inspiring story of Joe Walsh and Fred Guttenberg: Two ideological opposites who became close friends ⏳ [00:23:00] – The challenge of engaging with people who seem beyond reach—and knowing when to step away ⏳ [00:26:00] – A call to action: Take the first step, invite someone for coffee, and start humanizing one another Featured Quotes

In this episode, host Corey Nathan takes on one of the biggest challenges in today's society: toxic partisanship. He explores how political and social divisions have deepened, fueled by media, social networks, and entrenched ideological battles. But rather than just diagnosing the problem, Corey offers a powerful antidote—getting local and engaging in real-life, face-to-face conversations. He draws inspiration from scholars like Jonathan Haidt, Katherine Stewart and Robert Putnam, as well as his personal experiences, to make a compelling case for community-based solutions to polarization. What We Discuss ✅ The real extent of political division in America—and why it's not as bad as it seems ✅ How social media and national narratives exaggerate our differences ✅ The philosophy of Carl Schmitt and its impact on modern political discourse ✅ Why local engagement—like city council meetings, PTAs, and even bar conversations—is the key to bridging divides ✅ Practical steps to foster meaningful discussions and rebuild relationships Episode Highlights ⏳ [00:02:00] – The growing problem of toxic partisanship and how social media makes it worse ⏳ [00:05:00] – A study from More in Common shows Americans want unity, but doubt the other side does ⏳ [00:09:00] – Corey shares personal examples of online political attacks and how they reflect broader polarization ⏳ [00:14:00] – A key solution: Local engagement and organizations like Village Square ⏳ [00:17:00] – How shared community goals, like better roads and schools, help bridge ideological divides ⏳ [00:20:00] – The inspiring story of Joe Walsh and Fred Guttenberg: Two ideological opposites who became close friends ⏳ [00:23:00] – The challenge of engaging with people who seem beyond reach—and knowing when to step away ⏳ [00:26:00] – A call to action: Take the first step, invite someone for coffee, and start humanizing one another Featured Quotes

In this episode, host Corey Nathan welcomes investigative journalist and author Katherine Stewart back to the show. Katherine has spent over 15 years researching and reporting on religious nationalism and its impact on American democracy. Her new book, Money, Lies, and God: Inside the Movement to Destroy American Democracy, exposes the deep financial and ideological networks fueling Christian nationalism and the broader anti-democratic movement. This conversation explores how extreme wealth, disinformation, and religious nationalism are being weaponized against democracy—and what we can do about it.

In this episode, host Corey Nathan welcomes investigative journalist and author Katherine Stewart back to the show. Katherine has spent over 15 years researching and reporting on religious nationalism and its impact on American democracy. Her new book, Money, Lies, and God: Inside the Movement to Destroy American Democracy, exposes the deep financial and ideological networks fueling Christian nationalism and the broader anti-democratic movement. This conversation explores how extreme wealth, disinformation, and religious nationalism are being weaponized against democracy—and what we can do about it.

In this edition, Corey Nathan challenges listeners—especially his fellow Christians—to consider whether they have forgotten the first commandment: "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me." He explores how idolatry has evolved beyond worshiping wooden idols and now manifests in politics, ideology, and the way Christians engage with their faith in a modern democracy. This is meant to be an open conversation for people of all beliefs. Corey discusses the intersection of faith and civic engagement, posing challenging questions about whether political preferences are shaping morality rather than the other way around.

In this edition, Corey Nathan challenges listeners—especially his fellow Christians—to consider whether they have forgotten the first commandment: "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me." He explores how idolatry has evolved beyond worshiping wooden idols and now manifests in politics, ideology, and the way Christians engage with their faith in a modern democracy. This is meant to be an open conversation for people of all beliefs. Corey discusses the intersection of faith and civic engagement, posing challenging questions about whether political preferences are shaping morality rather than the other way around.

In this episode, host Corey Nathan sits down with Brent Allen Hagel, a professional voiceover artist known for his work in movie trailers, network promos, and commercials. Brent shares his journey into the competitive world of voiceover, the evolution of trailer narration, and the craft behind delivering compelling voiceovers that captivate audiences. What We Discuss: How Brent transitioned from working in kitchens to becoming a full-time voiceover artist. The importance of training, mentorship, and workshops in voice acting. The history and evolution of trailer narration in Hollywood. How voiceover plays a role in storytelling and marketing. Insights into the business side of trailer voiceover work. Episode Highlights: ⏳ [00:01:00] – Brent shares his early love for voiceover, inspired by radio programs and old-time announcers.

In this episode, host Corey Nathan engages in a timely and candid discussion with Marcus Ruiz Evans, the leader of the CalExit movement. Marc has been spearheading efforts to make California an independent nation for over a decade, publishing California's Next Century 2.0 in 2012. With the California Secretary of State recently approving a petition to start collecting signatures for an independence initiative, this conversation is more relevant than ever. Marc provides historical context, legal perspectives, and the strategic steps required to potentially break away from the United States.

In this episode, host Corey Nathan engages in a timely and candid discussion with Marcus Ruiz Evans, the leader of the CalExit movement. Marc has been spearheading efforts to make California an independent nation for over a decade, publishing California's Next Century 2.0 in 2012. With the California Secretary of State recently approving a petition to start collecting signatures for an independence initiative, this conversation is more relevant than ever. Marc provides historical context, legal perspectives, and the strategic steps required to potentially break away from the United States.

In this episode, host Corey Nathan sits down with Blake Fischer, the creator and host of The Homeless Conservative podcast. Blake describes himself as a constitutional conservative who feels politically "homeless" in today's climate. They dive deep into politics, faith, and media, all while challenging ideological silos in an engaging and candid conversation. Blake shares his unique political journey, from growing up in Oklahoma and getting involved in politics at an early age to becoming a musician touring the country in a punk-rock band. His experiences shape his political perspective, emphasizing constitutional principles, independent thinking, and holding both sides accountable.

In this episode, host Corey Nathan sits down with Blake Fischer, the creator and host of The Homeless Conservative podcast. Blake describes himself as a constitutional conservative who feels politically "homeless" in today's climate. They dive deep into politics, faith, and media, all while challenging ideological silos in an engaging and candid conversation. Blake shares his unique political journey, from growing up in Oklahoma and getting involved in politics at an early age to becoming a musician touring the country in a punk-rock band. His experiences shape his political perspective, emphasizing constitutional principles, independent thinking, and holding both sides accountable.

In this episode, host Corey Nathan addresses the pressing issue of how pro-democracy patriots - the large coalition of folks who believe in this American experiment - can endure during times when anti-democratic tendencies are metastasizing. Drawing from personal experiences, philosophical insights, and cultural reflections, we explore ways of maintaining hope, practicing discernment, and fostering meaningful connections amid political division.What We Discuss:Strategies for practicing discernment in consuming media and news.The importance of mindfulness and staying present in times of uncertainty.How local and state-level civic participation can make a meaningful impact.Insights into nurturing relationships with those holding differing political views.The role of beauty, truth, and community in sustaining democratic ideals.Episode Highlights:Introduction: Corey shares updates on a recent wildfire evacuation and gratitude for firefighters' efforts.Pro-Democracy Patriots: Corey explores how individuals committed to democracy can stay engaged and positive during anti-democratic times.Reflecting on MLK Day: The significance of Martin Luther King Jr.'s legacy and the moral universe's arc bending toward justice.Media Discernment: Corey discusses how he filters through news and commentary to focus on credible journalism and meaningful content.Practicing Mindfulness: The importance of staying present in the moment to avoid spiraling into anxiety.Truth and Beauty: A reflection on Kristen du Mez's advice to seek out beauty and truth for strength and grounding.Navigating Relationships: Balancing relationships with those holding differing political views while maintaining personal boundaries.Local Civic Engagement: Why local and state politics deserve more attention and how they affect daily life more significantly than federal issues.Featured Quotes:“The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.” – Reflecting on MLK Jr.'s wisdom.“Practicing discernment means filtering out the junk from the substance and focusing on credible voices.” – Corey Nathan.“You can still love people who disagree with you—sometimes from a safe distance.” – Corey Nathan.“Truth is about staying generous in a world that baits you into resentment.” – Kristen Du Mez.Additional InformationTalkin‘ Politics & Religion Without Killin‘ Each Other PodcastMore shows from The Democracy Group

Is it possible to have decent conversations across political differences. Short answer: Yeah! In this episode, host Corey Nathan explores how we can have meaningful, respectful, and productive conversations with those who think differently from us—politically, religiously, and ideologically. After four years of hosting the show and speaking with a wide array of guests, Corey shares his own insights, offering seven practical tools (plus a bonus tip) for engaging with “one of them” in a way that fosters connection rather than division. What Is Discussed How to give yourself and others grace in difficult conversations The importance of setting proper expectations when discussing sensitive topics Why asking the right questions is more powerful than having the perfect comeback How storytelling can humanize those with whom we disagree The value of being open to the phrase "I never thought of it that way" How to recognize when it's time to step away from a conversation or to love someone "from a safe distance" Resources and organizations that can help you navigate difficult discussions Episode Highlights ⏳ [00:02:00] – Reviews from listeners: the good, the bad, and the constructive ⏳ [00:05:00] – The purpose of this episode: sharing tools for engaging with "one of them" ⏳ [00:06:00] – Tool #1: Grace – Accepting that we will all make mistakes in these conversations ⏳ [00:09:00] – Tool #2: Proper Expectations – Why we shouldn't expect to change someone's mind 180 degrees ⏳ [00:12:00] – Tool #3: Asking Questions – Learning from Jesus' approach of responding with questions ⏳ [00:20:00] – Tool #4: Storytelling – The power of narrative in understanding each other as human beings ⏳ [00:25:00] – Tool #5: Being Open to "I Never Thought of It That Way" Moments ⏳ [00:32:00] – Tool #6: Recognizing Your Line – Knowing when to step away from an unhealthy dynamic ⏳ [00:35:00] – Tool #7: Equipping Yourself – Books, organizations, and resources for learning how to engage better ⏳ [00:38:00] – Bonus Tip: Taking Care of Yourself – Mental, emotional, and physical well-being in this work Featured Quotes

Is it possible to have decent conversations across political differences. Short answer: Yeah! In this episode, host Corey Nathan explores how we can have meaningful, respectful, and productive conversations with those who think differently from us—politically, religiously, and ideologically. After four years of hosting the show and speaking with a wide array of guests, Corey shares his own insights, offering seven practical tools (plus a bonus tip) for engaging with “one of them” in a way that fosters connection rather than division. What Is Discussed How to give yourself and others grace in difficult conversations The importance of setting proper expectations when discussing sensitive topics Why asking the right questions is more powerful than having the perfect comeback How storytelling can humanize those with whom we disagree The value of being open to the phrase "I never thought of it that way" How to recognize when it's time to step away from a conversation or to love someone "from a safe distance" Resources and organizations that can help you navigate difficult discussions Episode Highlights ⏳ [00:02:00] – Reviews from listeners: the good, the bad, and the constructive ⏳ [00:05:00] – The purpose of this episode: sharing tools for engaging with "one of them" ⏳ [00:06:00] – Tool #1: Grace – Accepting that we will all make mistakes in these conversations ⏳ [00:09:00] – Tool #2: Proper Expectations – Why we shouldn't expect to change someone's mind 180 degrees ⏳ [00:12:00] – Tool #3: Asking Questions – Learning from Jesus' approach of responding with questions ⏳ [00:20:00] – Tool #4: Storytelling – The power of narrative in understanding each other as human beings ⏳ [00:25:00] – Tool #5: Being Open to "I Never Thought of It That Way" Moments ⏳ [00:32:00] – Tool #6: Recognizing Your Line – Knowing when to step away from an unhealthy dynamic ⏳ [00:35:00] – Tool #7: Equipping Yourself – Books, organizations, and resources for learning how to engage better ⏳ [00:38:00] – Bonus Tip: Taking Care of Yourself – Mental, emotional, and physical well-being in this work Featured Quotes

In this episode, host Corey Nathan reconnects with Julie Mason, renowned journalist and host of The Julie Mason Show on SiriusXM's POTUS channel. Julie brings decades of experience in journalism, spanning local, state, and national politics, and shares her sharp insights on the evolving media landscape, political discourse, and the state of journalism today. What We Discuss: The evolving role of journalists in a polarized media environment. How to navigate news consumption and discern credible sources. Insights into the challenges of covering politicians and divisive topics. The growing intersection between social media platforms and journalism. Why re-engaging with quality news content is critical to democracy. Mike Pence: The King of Hilarity... Wait. WHAT?!?! No, really Episode Highlights: [00:00:00] – Corey welcomes Julie back to the podcast after four years and reflects on her journey in journalism, from print reporting to hosting her SiriusXM show. [00:09:00] – Julie explains how she transitioned from print to radio and why she took the leap into the unfamiliar world of broadcasting. [00:20:00] – The challenges of modern journalism: Julie addresses disinformation, lies in politics, and why reporters must focus on stories that truly impact people's lives. [00:27:00] – A discussion on how journalism is evolving to meet the needs of a fatigued audience, from long-form storytelling to true crime podcasts. [00:40:00] – Julie emphasizes the importance of journalists remaining stoic and professional, especially during major historical events like January 6th. [00:47:00] – Corey and Julie explore ways to have constructive conversations with people across ideological divides, drawing inspiration from bipartisan efforts in Congress. [00:55:00] – Julie's call to action: Why supporting quality journalism through subscriptions and active engagement matters more than ever. Featured Quotes: “You've got to be willing to kick your sources right in the balls if necessary, even if they're your friends.” “Politician lied is not really the story—focus on what impacts people's lives.” “To have meaningful conversations, you have to put down your weapons and see the humanity in the other person.” Resources Mentioned: The Julie Mason Show on SiriusXM's POTUS Channel – www.siriusxm.com/channels/potus-politics  Substack Recommendations: The Great Transformation with Mike Madrid Tom LoBianco's 24Sight Oliver Darcy's Substack The Contrarian by Jennifer Rubin and Laurence Tribe Dirty John Podcast – Listen Here Call to Action Support on Patreon - www.patreon.com/politicsandreligion  Watch on YouTube - www.youtube.com/@politicsandreligion  Leave a Review for TP&R - ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics  Proud to be part of The Democracy Group - www.democracygroup.org/shows/talkin-politics-religion  Social Media Links @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook @julesdc Facebook Our Sponsor Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com

In this episode, host Corey Nathan reconnects with Julie Mason, renowned journalist and host of The Julie Mason Show on SiriusXM's POTUS channel. Julie brings decades of experience in journalism, spanning local, state, and national politics, and shares her sharp insights on the evolving media landscape, political discourse, and the state of journalism today. What We Discuss: The evolving role of journalists in a polarized media environment. How to navigate news consumption and discern credible sources. Insights into the challenges of covering politicians and divisive topics. The growing intersection between social media platforms and journalism. Why re-engaging with quality news content is critical to democracy. Mike Pence: The King of Hilarity... Wait. WHAT?!?! No, really Episode Highlights: [00:00:00] – Corey welcomes Julie back to the podcast after four years and reflects on her journey in journalism, from print reporting to hosting her SiriusXM show. [00:09:00] – Julie explains how she transitioned from print to radio and why she took the leap into the unfamiliar world of broadcasting. [00:20:00] – The challenges of modern journalism: Julie addresses disinformation, lies in politics, and why reporters must focus on stories that truly impact people's lives. [00:27:00] – A discussion on how journalism is evolving to meet the needs of a fatigued audience, from long-form storytelling to true crime podcasts. [00:40:00] – Julie emphasizes the importance of journalists remaining stoic and professional, especially during major historical events like January 6th. [00:47:00] – Corey and Julie explore ways to have constructive conversations with people across ideological divides, drawing inspiration from bipartisan efforts in Congress. [00:55:00] – Julie's call to action: Why supporting quality journalism through subscriptions and active engagement matters more than ever. Featured Quotes: “You've got to be willing to kick your sources right in the balls if necessary, even if they're your friends.” “Politician lied is not really the story—focus on what impacts people's lives.” “To have meaningful conversations, you have to put down your weapons and see the humanity in the other person.” Resources Mentioned: The Julie Mason Show on SiriusXM's POTUS Channel – www.siriusxm.com/channels/potus-politics  Substack Recommendations: The Great Transformation with Mike Madrid Tom LoBianco's 24Sight Oliver Darcy's Substack The Contrarian by Jennifer Rubin and Laurence Tribe Dirty John Podcast – Listen Here Call to Action Support on Patreon - www.patreon.com/politicsandreligion  Watch on YouTube - www.youtube.com/@politicsandreligion  Leave a Review for TP&R - ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics  Proud to be part of The Democracy Group - www.democracygroup.org/shows/talkin-politics-religion  Social Media Links @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook @julesdc Facebook Our Sponsor Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com

In this episode, host Corey Nathan addresses the pressing issue of how pro-democracy patriots - the large coalition of folks who believe in this American experiment - can endure during times when anti-democratic tendencies are metastasizing. Drawing from personal experiences, philosophical insights, and cultural reflections, we explore ways of maintaining hope, practicing discernment, and fostering meaningful connections amid political division. What We Discuss: Strategies for practicing discernment in consuming media and news. The importance of mindfulness and staying present in times of uncertainty. How local and state-level civic participation can make a meaningful impact. Insights into nurturing relationships with those holding differing political views. The role of beauty, truth, and community in sustaining democratic ideals. Episode Highlights: [00:00:00] Introduction: Corey shares updates on a recent wildfire evacuation and gratitude for firefighters' efforts. [00:03:00] Pro-Democracy Patriots: Corey explores how individuals committed to democracy can stay engaged and positive during anti-democratic times. [00:06:00] Reflecting on MLK Day: The significance of Martin Luther King Jr.'s legacy and the moral universe's arc bending toward justice. [00:10:00] Media Discernment: Corey discusses how he filters through news and commentary to focus on credible journalism and meaningful content. [00:19:00] Practicing Mindfulness: The importance of staying present in the moment to avoid spiraling into anxiety. [00:22:00] Truth and Beauty: A reflection on Kristen du Mez's advice to seek out beauty and truth for strength and grounding. [00:27:00] Navigating Relationships: Balancing relationships with those holding differing political views while maintaining personal boundaries. [00:28:00] Local Civic Engagement: Why local and state politics deserve more attention and how they affect daily life more significantly than federal issues. Featured Quotes: “The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.” – Reflecting on MLK Jr.'s wisdom. “Practicing discernment means filtering out the junk from the substance and focusing on credible voices.” – Corey Nathan. “You can still love people who disagree with you—sometimes from a safe distance.” – Corey Nathan. “Truth is about staying generous in a world that baits you into resentment.” – Kristen Du Mez. Call to Action Support on Patreon Watch on YouTube Leave a Review for TP&R Proud to be part of The Democracy Group Social Media Links @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Our Sponsor Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com

In this episode, host Corey Nathan addresses the pressing issue of how pro-democracy patriots - the large coalition of folks who believe in this American experiment - can endure during times when anti-democratic tendencies are metastasizing. Drawing from personal experiences, philosophical insights, and cultural reflections, we explore ways of maintaining hope, practicing discernment, and fostering meaningful connections amid political division. What We Discuss: Strategies for practicing discernment in consuming media and news. The importance of mindfulness and staying present in times of uncertainty. How local and state-level civic participation can make a meaningful impact. Insights into nurturing relationships with those holding differing political views. The role of beauty, truth, and community in sustaining democratic ideals. Episode Highlights: [00:00:00] Introduction: Corey shares updates on a recent wildfire evacuation and gratitude for firefighters' efforts. [00:03:00] Pro-Democracy Patriots: Corey explores how individuals committed to democracy can stay engaged and positive during anti-democratic times. [00:06:00] Reflecting on MLK Day: The significance of Martin Luther King Jr.'s legacy and the moral universe's arc bending toward justice. [00:10:00] Media Discernment: Corey discusses how he filters through news and commentary to focus on credible journalism and meaningful content. [00:19:00] Practicing Mindfulness: The importance of staying present in the moment to avoid spiraling into anxiety. [00:22:00] Truth and Beauty: A reflection on Kristen du Mez's advice to seek out beauty and truth for strength and grounding. [00:27:00] Navigating Relationships: Balancing relationships with those holding differing political views while maintaining personal boundaries. [00:28:00] Local Civic Engagement: Why local and state politics deserve more attention and how they affect daily life more significantly than federal issues. Featured Quotes: “The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.” – Reflecting on MLK Jr.'s wisdom. “Practicing discernment means filtering out the junk from the substance and focusing on credible voices.” – Corey Nathan. “You can still love people who disagree with you—sometimes from a safe distance.” – Corey Nathan. “Truth is about staying generous in a world that baits you into resentment.” – Kristen Du Mez. Call to Action Support on Patreon Watch on YouTube Leave a Review for TP&R Proud to be part of The Democracy Group Social Media Links @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Our Sponsor Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com

Co-Host Corey Nathan (https://mountaintoppodcast.com/nathan) I fully realize we're all dead sick of talking about politics. The '24 election cycle is over, DJT is taking office this coming Monday, and it's time to move on. But now what? How will it all affect how we relate to women? My returning guest Corey Nathan runs an entire podcast called Talkin' Politics And Religion Without Killing Each Other, so these sort of questions are what he lives and breathes. Right off the bat, Corey suggests we as men recover an insanely useful skill that few of us recognize as important. Next, what does being able to separate what's really important from what's merely urgent have to do with all of this? Are people 'politically fatigued' about now? Is the country ready to unite? If so, does that mean women will be easier to talk to? What happens when we let politics become our religion...whether we realize it or not? Have we become addicted to fearmongering, regardless of whether or not we actually like feeling afraid? (I know, weird...) Has what can best be described as 'the feminine opinion' caused a backlash among men in terms of how they vote, and indeed in how they relate to women? Has the narrative shifted to such a radical degree in this country (and perhaps the entire world) that people are ready to salvage their dignity as independent thinkers rather than simply following their party's directives? Why hasn't people's general rejection of politics as religion led to higher church attendance? And by the way, are politics and religion really all that matters when men and women are getting to know each other on dates? I mean, lately one could easily think so. Will that balance itself out in '25 and beyond? And then, how should we as men lead to make sure we Make Seduction Great Again? Join The Mountain Top Summit on Facebook and more when you visit https://mountaintoppodcast.com MESSAGE TO GREAT MEN EVERYWHERE === The content in this show is NEVER generated by AI. I discovered it can't handle a joke a long time ago. Meanwhile, I'll keep the practical, actionable ideas coming as well as the entertaining part...all for free. If you love what you hear, please rate the show on the service you subscribed to it on (takes one second) and leave a review. As we say here in Texas, I appreciate you!

In this episode we are joined by Corey Nathan, host of Talkin' Politics and Religion Without Killin' Each Other, producer of Freedom Road Podcast and the founder of SCAN Media. We invited Corey to join us on Freedom Road for a frank, raw conversation meant to help us process the results of election 2024 and their implications for years to come. We'd love to hear your thoughts. Thread or Insta Lisa @lisasharper or to Freedom Road @freedomroad.us. We're also on Substack! So be sure to subscribe to freedomroad.substack.com. And, keep sharing the podcast with your friends and networks and letting us know what you think! www.threads.net/@lisasharper www.threads.net/@freedomroad.us freedomroad.substack.com www.politicsandreligion.us

Send us a textIn this conversation, Will Wright and Corey Nathan discuss their impressions of the recent debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. They highlight key moments, such as Harris's strong handshake and her ability to set traps for Trump. They also discuss the moderators' performance and note that they were softer on Harris compared to Trump. Overall, they agree that Harris performed well and set herself up for success, while Trump appeared unhinged and struggled to recover. They also discuss the importance of reaching undecided voters and the impact of the debate on different constituencies. In this conversation, Corey Nathan and Will Wright discuss their analysis of the vice presidential debate between Kamala Harris and Mike Pence. They explore various topics, including the candidates' performance, missed opportunities, policy discussions, and the potential impact on the election. They also speculate on the future of the campaign and the importance of ground game and swing states. Corey predicts that Kamala Harris will win the election, while Will emphasizes the need to pay attention to state-level polls and voting blocks. "The Faith Roundtable" is a captivating spinoff from the Faithful Politics podcast, dedicated to exploring the crucial issues facing the church in America today. Hosted by Josh Burtram, this podcast brings together faith leaders, theologians, and scholars for deep, respectful discussions on topics at the heart of American Christianity. From the intersection of faith and public life to urgent matters such as social justice and community engagement, each episode offers insightful conversations Support the showTo learn more about the show, contact our hosts, or recommend future guests, click on the links below: Website: https://www.faithfulpoliticspodcast.com/ Faithful Host: Josh@faithfulpoliticspodcast.com Political Host: Will@faithfulpoliticspodcast.com Twitter: @FaithfulPolitik Instagram: faithful_politics Facebook: FaithfulPoliticsPodcast LinkedIn: faithfulpolitics Subscribe to our Substack: https://faithfulpolitics.substack.com/

Join Stuart for an engaging discussion with Corey Nathan, host of the podcast "Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other." Corey, a Jewish stockbroker turned Christian entrepreneur, believes that it's possible to have proactive and fun conversations about politics and religion without resorting to hatred. In this episode, Corey shares his experiences and the lessons he's learned from his conversations with world-renowned guests, emphasizing the importance of civility and understanding in today's polarized climate. Discover how we can bridge divides and foster healthy, respectful dialogue even on the most contentious issues.We'll talk about all that and plenty more snark and Christian Crazy. Links for More:More from Corey Nathan: https://www.politicsandreligion.us/Big thanks to these outlets that make the Christian Crazy possible:Right Wing WatchChristian NightmaresFriendly AtheistCome along for the ride as we skewer through life, culture, and spirituality in the face of a changing world.www.SnarkyFaith.comCheck out the other fantastic Quoircast partners: The Heretic Happy Hour Podcast, Apostates Anonymous, The Messy Spirituality Podcast, Ideas Digest, The New Evangelicals, This is Not Church, and Wild Olive.

This time, Corey was in the hot seat. He joins Michael Baranowski, Professor Emeritus of Political Science at Northern Kentucky University and Host of The Politics Guys Podcast, for a conversation on their terrific show. Here are the show notes from TPG:   "Mike talks with Corey Nathan, host of the most excellent podcast, Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other. Corey shares his unique perspective as a “born-again Christian with a thick Jewish accent” and how his background has influenced his approach to discussing sensitive topics like politics and religion.   "Topics Mike & Corey Discuss Include: – how and why Corey doesn't fit the ‘Evangelical Christian' stereotype – discussing politics with evangelical Christians – a Biblical approach to political issues like immigration and LGBTQ rights – searching for the truth, as opposed to trying to ‘win' every argument – the value of regularly engaging with people with whom we disagree   "Follow Corey on X The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Mike's other podcast is Sustainable Planet.   "Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo we're @PoliticsGuys.   "The Politics Guys is part of The Democracy Group, a network of podcasts that examines what's broken in our democracy and how we can work together to fix it."   It would mean so much if you could leave us a review: https://ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics    Very grateful for our sponsor Meza Wealth Management. Reach out to Jorge and his team: www.mezawealth.com   http://politicsguys.com/

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We have been told that the two topics we should never discuss are politics and religion. But is that true? Of course not! Despite the fact that the loudest voices in society tell us to keep our thoughts and opinions to ourselves, we need to learn how to have meaningful, important discussions without hating those with whom we disagree. Today and The March or Die Show I have the privilege of interviewing Corey Nathan who is the host of the "Talkin' Politics and Religion" podcast about the best way to have important conversations. This interview was both practical and helpful and one that you can put to use today. Don't be afraid to have the hard conversations-just have them in a way that allows everyone involved to benefit.  To learn more about Corey Nathan find him at https://www.politicsandreligion.us/ or on socials @coreysnathan  Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Justin Robert Young discusses Donald Trump's professional victimization and its potential impact on the upcoming election. He also interviews Corey Nathan about the intersection of politics and religion. The episode also touches on other political news, such as the FISA bill and controversies surrounding NPR's alleged liberal bias. Chapters00:00 Intro00:21 Donald Trump's Martyr Strategy08:34 Update on congress, NPR and Live Nation23:10 Interview with Corey Nathan58:28 Outro Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What do we say when others label us one way or another? Why do folks have a tendency to do that in the first place? Why is it important to engage when someone mischaracterizes our views? And, if we don't fall neatly into one category, what might be a more accurate way to describe how we do identify politically?    In this edition, host Corey Nathan goes through these questions including whether it's accurate to say he's part of THE LEFT and whether there would be anything wrong with such a political leaning. We go through recent right-wing podcasts and other media to better understand what many of our friends and neighbors are listening to and reading about THE LEFT including what Tucker Carlson's been up to and a couple of the recent episodes of Victor Davis Hanson's and Steven Crowder's shows. We look at defining principles of the MAGA movement and whether there are any principles so much as anti-partisanship. There's a response about those who've hijacked the ideas of conservatism as a philosophy and Christianity as an identity. We define what it means to be delusional and examine an illustration of it. And finally we look at what in the world a "French Davidian" is!   In all seriousness, we discuss writers, thinkers and leaders who see people with different positions not as enemies but as human beings that we can learn from and even befriend to arrive at a higher truth; people who can thrive in environments where their own views aren't the dominant ones; those who leave room for the possibility of changing - who know that evolving one's positions isn't a sign of weakness but of having the strength that comes with humility; and people who can hold space for the complexity of our world.   Let us know what you think. You can find Corey on all the socials @coreysnathan such as www.threads.net/@coreysnathan.   It would mean so much if you could leave us a review on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/TPandRPod   Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other is part of The Democracy Group, a network of podcasts that examines what's broken in our democracy and how we can work together to fix it.   Very grateful for our sponsor Meza Wealth Management. Reach out to Jorge and his team: www.mezawealth.com

Why is it that when there's a criticism of Donald Trump, that some folks who support him react as if it's an attack on them personally?    On this installment of our program, host Corey Nathan explores this phenomenon. There have been a number of times when Corey and/or the guests have examined the words, actions and character of Donald Trump - and let's face it, there's much to criticize. Like, every day. But it becomes problematic when a friend who happens to support Trump takes that critique as if it's an attack against them and their character. Corey shares several instances of when this has occurred in response to recent interviews and posts. He also scratches the surface of what's happening in right wing media as one possible explanation of where this is all coming from.    But by the end of this talk, we explore ways of how to engage with folks who do seem to take it personally when we openly critique something Trump says or does. Some of this includes setting clear understandings, finding ways to compliment the person, not tackling everything at once and, best of all, inviting them out for coffee or lunch!   Let us know what you think. You can find Corey on all the socials @coreysnathan such as www.threads.net/@coreysnathan.   It would mean so much if you could leave us a review on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/TPandRPod   Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other is part of The Democracy Group, a network of podcasts that examines what's broken in our democracy and how we can work together to fix it.   Please support our sponsor Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com

Special guest Corey Nathan joins us to talk about the art of navigating contentious political conversations with grace and understanding.Corey Nathan shares personal stories and insights, including his own experiences with public figures and the importance of relational interactions over transactional debates in persuasion. He also discusses the challenges of discussing the Israel-Palestine conflict and emphasizes the importance of acknowledging complexity and having empathetic conversations.Throughout the episode, the conversation centers on engaging in civil dialogue, understanding the urgency people feel about political matters, and disarming contentiousness during conversations. The episode also covers Corey Nathan's personal journey of growing up in a Jewish family, becoming a Christian, and starting a podcast about discussing politics and religion without hostility.Join us as we explore the wisdom and strategies for having respectful and empathetic conversations about politics and religion in this engaging and enlightening episode.Additional Resources:politicsandreligion.ushttps://www.linkedin.com/in/coreysnathan/https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talkin-politics-religion-without-killin-each-other/id1536169792 Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com