Podcast appearances and mentions of Dawn Foster

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast- Episode 107 In this episode of CHAOSScast, we have a special crossover episode with Sustain, hosted Richard Littauer. Richard chats with CHAOSS contributor Sean Goggins, a tenured full Professor of Computer Science at the University of Missouri. Sean discusses his extensive involvement in the open source community, particularly through his work with the CHAOSS Project, a Linux Foundation initiative focused on understanding and improving open-source project sustainability. Their conversation covers Sean's academic background, his role in CHAOSS, the importance of distributed leadership, and how metrics can impact the sustainability of open source projects. Sean also shares insights into his teaching methods, the challenges of maintaining open source software, and the future direction of his work on CHAOSS and Augur. Hit the download button now! [00:02:32] Sean shares that he's a professor specializing in software engineering, algorithms, data science, and visualization, and he discusses his tenure status and passion for research and open source work. [00:03:48] Sean explains how open source leadership is distributed rather than centralized. [00:05:52] We hear how the CHAOSS Project emerged from studying open source governance and leadership. Sean and Matt Germonprez started working on open source collaboration data and a metrics-focused discussion at a Linux Foundation Summit that led to the founding of the CHAOSS Project in 2017. [00:09:30] Richard asks Sean how he balances research, teaching, and open source. Sean discusses how he splits time between research (40%), teaching (40%), and service (20%), with CHAOSS being a major part of his research efforts. [00:14:34] Sean explains that the Augur Project was born out of a need for structured open source data tracking. [00:16:25] Richard asks Sean if he teaches his students about open source, and he explains that he uses CHAOSS and Auger to teach students about GitHub collaboration, pull requests, and open source workflows. [00:20:32] Sean shares his insights on research and open source. He emphasizes his involvement in maintaining software and aiding organizations in making sense of CHAOSS metrics through Augur, which has given him a deep understanding of open source development. [00:21:51] Sean explains why he thinks metrics help make projects more sustainable and how the CHAOSS community has benefitted from fostering a welcoming environment for both technical and non-technical contributors. [00:26:30] We hear some challenges within CHAOSS where it's been difficult to build a strong developer community around CHAOSS software tools and maintaining open source software requires significant effort. [00:29:18] He goes further to explain how to be a better project and that there's potential for improving project sustainability through structured mentoring and governance. [00:36:14] Sean shares CHAOSS Project's future and research goals. Panelist: Richard Littauer of Sustain Guest: Sean Goggins of CHAOSS Value Adds (Picks)/Spotlight: [00:38:32] Richard's spotlight is BibtexParser. [00:39:28] Sean's spotlight is Stuart Geiger. Links: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) richard@sustainoss.org (mailto:richard@sustainoss.org) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Open Collective-SustainOSS (Contribute) (https://opencollective.com/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Socials (https://www.burntfen.com/2023-05-30/socials) Sean Goggins Website (https://www.seangoggins.net/) Sean Goggins X (https://x.com/sociallycompute) Nora McDonald Website (https://www.noramcdonald.net/) Nora McDonald-Commonwealth Cyber Initiative (https://cyberinitiative.org/research/researcher-directory/mcdonald-nora.html) Sustain Podcast- 3 episodes featuring guest Georg Link (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/guests/georg-link) Sustain Podcast- 2 episodes featuring guest Dawn Foster (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/guests/foster) Matt Germonprez-Univ. of Nebraska Omaha (https://www.unomaha.edu/college-of-information-science-and-technology/about/faculty-staff/matt-germonprez.php) The Linux Kernel Maintainer Summit-Tokyo, Japan 2025 (https://events.linuxfoundation.org/linux-kernel-maintainer-summit/) Alfred P. Sloan Foundation (https://sloan.org/) CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS-GrimoireLab (https://chaoss.github.io/grimoirelab/) CHAOSS-Augur (https://github.com/chaoss/augur) Kelly Blincoe-University of Auckland (https://profiles.auckland.ac.nz/k-blincoe) James Howison (https://james.howison.name/) Sustain Podcast- episode 218 featuring guest James Howison (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/guests/james-howison) Sustain Podcast-episode 243 featuring guest Elizabeth Barron (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/guests/elizabeth-barron) Sustain Podcast-episode 65 featuring guest Brian Proffitt (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/guests/briant-proffitt) Sustain Podcast-2 episodes featuring guest Duane O'Brien (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/guests/duane-obrien) Sustain Podcast-episode 200 featuring guest Stuart Geiger (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/guests/geiger) Digital Infrastructure Podcast- 2 episodes featuring guest Rayya El Zein (https://dif.fireside.fm/guests/rayya-el-zein) BibtexParser (https://bibtexparser.readthedocs.io/en/main/) Stuart Geiger (https://css.ucsd.edu/people/profiles/sgeiger.html) Special Guest: Richard Littauer.

Guest Sean Goggins Panelist Richard Littauer Show Notes In this episode of Sustain, host Richard Littauer chats with guest Sean Goggins, a tenured full Professor of Computer Science at the University of Missouri. Sean discusses his extensive involvement in the open source community, particularly through his work with the CHAOSS Project, a Linux Foundation initiative focused on understanding and improving open-source project sustainability. Their conversation covers Sean's academic background, his role in CHAOSS, the importance of distributed leadership, and how metrics can impact the sustainability of open source projects. Sean also shares insights into his teaching methods, the challenges of maintaining open source software, and the future direction of his work on CHAOSS and Augur. Hit the download button now! [00:01:25] Sean shares that he's a professor specializing in software engineering, algorithms, data science, and visualization, and he discusses his tenure status and passion for research and open source work. [00:02:41] Sean explains how open source leadership is distributed rather than centralized. [00:04:45] We hear how the CHAOSS Project emerged from studying open source governance and leadership. Sean and Matt Germonprez started working on open source collaboration data and a metrics-focused discussion at a Linux Foundation Summit that led to the founding of the CHAOSS Project in 2017. [00:08:23] Richard asks Sean how he balances research, teaching, and open source. Sean discusses how he splits time between research (40%), teaching (40%), and service (20%), with CHAOSS being a major part of his research efforts. [00:13:27] Sean explains that the Augur Project was born out of a need for structured open source data tracking. [00:15:18] Richard asks Sean if he teaches his students about open source, and he explains that he uses CHAOSS and Auger to teach students about GitHub collaboration, pull requests, and open source workflows. [00:19:25] Sean shares his insights on research and open source. He emphasizes his involvement in maintaining software and aiding organizations in making sense of CHAOSS metrics through Augur, which has given him a deep understanding of open source development. [00:20:44] Sean explains why he thinks metrics help make projects more sustainable and how the CHAOSS community has benefitted from fostering a welcoming environment for both technical and non-technical contributors. [00:25:23] We hear some challenges within CHAOSS where it's been difficult to build a strong developer community around CHAOSS software tools and maintaining open source software requires significant effort. [00:28:11] He goes further to explain how to be a better project and that there's potential for improving project sustainability through structured mentoring and governance. [00:35:07] Sean shares CHAOSS Project's future and research goals. Quotes [00:03:46] “Distributed leadership: this exists in most of open source. There's not often a single individual who drives an entire project.” [00:09:18] “You have 40% of your time for teaching, 40% of your time for research, and 20% of your time for service.” [00:12:15] “There's a challenge of being a university professor. The advantage is you can do what you want, the challenge is that you have to set your own boundaries.” [00:23:12] “A leading indicator for community health is how many newcomers you have coming in over time.” [00:28:14] “How can I have a better project? It's the same as going to a family reunion and saying, ‘How can we be a better family'?” Spotlight [00:37:25] Richard's spotlight is BibtexParser. [00:38:21] Sean's spotlight is Stuart Geiger. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) richard@sustainoss.org (mailto:richard@sustainoss.org) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Open Collective-SustainOSS (Contribute) (https://opencollective.com/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Socials (https://www.burntfen.com/2023-05-30/socials) Sean Goggins Website (https://www.seangoggins.net/) Sean Goggins X (https://x.com/sociallycompute) Nora McDonald Website (https://www.noramcdonald.net/) Nora McDonald-Commonwealth Cyber Initiative (https://cyberinitiative.org/research/researcher-directory/mcdonald-nora.html) Sustain Podcast- 3 episodes featuring guest Georg Link (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/guests/georg-link) Sustain Podcast- 2 episodes featuring guest Dawn Foster (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/guests/foster) Matt Germonprez-Univ. of Nebraska Omaha (https://www.unomaha.edu/college-of-information-science-and-technology/about/faculty-staff/matt-germonprez.php) The Linux Kernel Maintainer Summit-Tokyo, Japan 2025 (https://events.linuxfoundation.org/linux-kernel-maintainer-summit/) Alfred P. Sloan Foundation (https://sloan.org/) CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS-GrimoireLab (https://chaoss.github.io/grimoirelab/) CHAOSS-Augur (https://github.com/chaoss/augur) Kelly Blincoe-University of Auckland (https://profiles.auckland.ac.nz/k-blincoe) James Howison (https://james.howison.name/) Sustain Podcast- episode 218 featuring guest James Howison (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/guests/james-howison) Sustain Podcast-episode 243 featuring guest Elizabeth Barron (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/guests/elizabeth-barron) Sustain Podcast-episode 65 featuring guest Brian Proffitt (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/guests/briant-proffitt) Sustain Podcast-2 episodes featuring guest Duane O'Brien (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/guests/duane-obrien) Sustain Podcast-episode 200 featuring guest Stuart Geiger (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/guests/geiger) Digital Infrastructure Podcast- 2 episodes featuring guest Rayya El Zein (https://dif.fireside.fm/guests/rayya-el-zein) BibtexParser (https://bibtexparser.readthedocs.io/en/main/) Stuart Geiger (https://css.ucsd.edu/people/profiles/sgeiger.html) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guest: Sean Goggins.

Welcome back to The Go To Food Podcast! Today, we're joined by the country's most famous food critic and journalist, and perhaps once the angriest man in Britain, Giles Coren. Giles has been the restaurant critic for The Times since 2002, following stints as a critic for Tatler and The Independent on Sunday. He's also hosted over 30 TV shows in both the UK and US, landing his big break in 2005 with Gordon Ramsay's F-Word.Known for never shying away from controversy, Giles has found himself at the center of numerous scandals over the years—many of which, as he reveals, have led to pay raises instead of sackings. A brilliant writer and orator, he's also made a few enemies with his notorious Twitter rants and his sensitivity to public opinion. In today's episode, for the first time ever, Giles opens up about his most memorable controversies, shares his regrets (including his greatest regret over his comments about Dawn Foster after her passing), and explains why he thinks Jonathan Nunn is the biggest "C***" in the world—though it may not be as harsh as it sounds.We also dive into his professional journey to the top of the journalism world, explore why he believes the role of food critic is nearly extinct, uncover why he had a complicated relationship with AA Gill, and hear about the most disgusting food he's ever eaten. Plus, find out how he got a famous restaurant chain shut down, his thoughts on the Notting Hill dining scene, how he discovered he had cancer, and much more.This is definitely one of our most entertaining—and possibly controversial—interviews yet. So sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride!--------Please leave us a great rating and a comment and share it with your friends - it really helps us grow as a show.If you're in the industry and are looking for the greatest POS system in the world than look no further as Blinq are tearing up the rulebook—no long-term contracts, no hidden fees, and no per-device charges. Just £49 a month for unlimited devices and 24/7 UK-based support that's always there, in person when you need it.Built for hospitality, by hospitality, blinq is the fastest, easiest POS system on the market—so intuitive, anyone can use it. And while others take weeks to get you up and running, with blinq, you're live in just 2 hours.Join the hospitality revolution today & use the code GOTOBLINQ to get your first month free - https://blinqme.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 106 In this episode of the CHAOSScast, host Alice Sowerby introduces guests Dawn Foster, Cailean Osborne, and Paul Sharratt to discuss the newly formed 'Funding Impact Measurement Working Group' within the CHAOSS community. The panel explores the group's origins, goals, and objectives, emphasizing the importance of mixed method approaches to assess the impact of funding on open source projects. They highlight the significance of both quantitative and qualitative methods to understand the effects of funding better and share insights on creating standardized frameworks for impact assessment. The discussion also touches on the challenges of public versus private funding, the nuances of financial support in open source projects, and the potential benefits of having a collaborative, open forum for related discussions. Hit download now to hear more! [00:02:55] Dawn explains the newly established ‘Funding Impact Measurement Working Group' within the CHAOSS Project including its goals and how often they meet. [00:04:26] Paul describes how the working group was founded after a research paper was written on measuring the impact of public funding on open source and how they presented at Open Forum Academy at Harvard Business School. [00:07:20] Dawn highlights open source funding comes from different sources and more about Microsoft's FOSS Fund and measuring the impact of corporate sponsorship. [00:10:25] Cailean outlines all the core objectives of the working group. [00:13:17] We hear about the working group's first meeting, including members from Digital Infrastructure Insights Fund, and the plan to build a repository of funding models, their effectiveness, and key case studies. [00:15:34] There's a discussion on the challenges in measuring funding impact, which Dawn explains cases where funding has led to community conflicts (some contributors get paid while others remain unpaid). [00:19:45] Cailean talks about the long-term vision for the group which is expanding participation across different funding sources and building open source tools (e.g., Python scripts, Jupyter Notebooks) to support funding impact assessments. [00:21:26] Dawn encourages participation in a working group by contributing in various ways, whether through technical resources, providing insights and experiences related to funding impacts, or simply learning and engaging in discussions. [00:23:42] Paul and Cailean emphasize the need for qualitative research alongside quantitative metrics. Policymakers often seek “hard numbers,” but contextual insights from interviews and case studies are crucial. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:29:12] Cailean's pick is Audrey Tang at RightsCon on her dual meaning of digital in Chinese. [00:30:34] Dawn's pick is Blender for designing 3D models she can print. [00:32:35] Paul's pick is ERROR bug bounty program. [00:33:46] Alice's pick is scrolling for things on eBay like fun sweaters. Panelist: Alice Sowerby Guests: Dawn Foster Cailean Osborne Paul Sharratt Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Slack (https://chaoss-workspace.slack.com/join/shared_invite/zt-r65szij9-QajX59hkZUct82b0uACA6g#/shared-invite/email) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) CHAOSS Calendar (https://chaoss.community/chaoss-calendar/) Alice Sowerby LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/alice-sowerby-ba692a13/?originalSubdomain=uk) Dawn Foster Bluesky (https://bsky.app/profile/geekygirldawn.bsky.social) Cailean Osborne, PhD LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/caileanosborne/) Paul Sharratt LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-sharratt-887621b3/) Paul Sharratt Bluesky (https://bsky.app/profile/psharratt.bsky.social) Sovereign Tech Agency (https://www.sovereign.tech/) The Linux Foundation Europe (https://linuxfoundation.eu/) Funding Impact Measurement Working Group (https://github.com/chaoss/wg-funding-impact) A Toolkit for Measuring the Impacts of Public Funding on Open Source Software Development (Paper) (https://arxiv.org/abs/2411.06027) “Measuring the impact of our investments: introducing a co-authored paper,” by Paul Sharratt (https://www.sovereign.tech/news/measuring-the-impact-of-our-funding) [Audrey Tang](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audrey_Tang#:~:text=Audrey%20Tang%20(Chinese%3A%20%E5%94%90%E9%B3%B3,ten%20greatest%20Taiwanese%20computing%20personalities%22.) ERROR (https://error.reviews/) Blender (https://www.blender.org/) #1-Dawn designed and printed on Blender (https://bsky.app/profile/geekygirldawn.bsky.social/post/3lika3wlrfk2s) #2-Dawn designed and printed on Blender (https://bsky.app/profile/geekygirldawn.bsky.social/post/3liaa232yws2w) Special Guests: Cailean Osborne and Paul Sharratt.

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 101 In this episode of CHAOSScast, hosts Alice Sowerby, Harmony Elendu, and Dawn Foster provide an in-depth look at how the CHAOSScast podcast is produced. They share their backgrounds, discuss the importance of community participation, and elaborate on their process for selecting topics and guests. They also discuss the logistics and creative process behind producing the podcast, and the challenges of scheduling recordings and coordinating with guests from different time zones. The episode concludes with a call for community feedback and suggestions to improve the podcast. Press download now to hear more! [00:02:59] There's a discussion on the history of CHAOSScast, with Dawn explaining how she revived the podcast after a period of inactivity. [00:03:55] Alice reflects on her invitation to join the podcast, her approach to managing her RSI, and her adaption to podcasting. [00:04:44] Harmony shares how he became involved with CHAOSScast, his initial experiences, and the development of the “20 Minutes of CHAOSS Africa” segment. [00:07:02] The hosts discuss the logistics and creative process behind producing the podcast, including selecting topics, and engaging with the community. Technical aspects of the podcast production are explained, such as recording, editing, and hosting tools and services used. [00:11:11] Dawn emphasizes the community-focused nature of their editing process, ensuring all participants are comfortable with the final product. [00:12:25] Alice, Dawn, and Harmony discuss cross-posting episodes from other podcasts and the criteria for selecting topics and guests. [00:16:42] They discuss challenges of maintaining a diverse and interesting guest list, and the importance of involving new voices in the podcast. Also, the logistical challenges of aligning guest schedules, especially considering different time zones and professional commitments. [00:20:06] The hosts encourage the community to suggest topics and promote the podcast to enhance reach and engagement. Ideas for improving accessibility to podcast content, such as curating themed collections of past episodes. [00:24:03] There's suggestions for integrating episodes into other resources like guides and presentations to further enrich the community's resources. [00:24:42] The episode wraps up with a call for feedback from listeners to continuously improve the podcast. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: * [00:25:14] Dawn's pick is wandering around Christmas markets in Munich eating roasted chestnuts and drinking glühwein. * [00:26:10] Harmony's pick is attending cultural activities of different cultures. * [00:27:06] Alice's pick is sending photos of her vegetable box to the company that she orders from. Panelists: Alice Sowerby Harmony Elendu Dawn Foster Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Sustain Podcast (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/) Alice Sowerby Website (https://www.rosmarin.co.uk/) Harmony Elendu X (https://x.com/ogaharmony) Dawn Foster BlueSky (https://bsky.app/profile/geekygirldawn.bsky.social) Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Glühwein (mulled wine) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulled_wine) OddBox vegetables (https://www.oddbox.co.uk/)

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 100 In this special 100th episode of CHAOSScast, co-hosts Alice Sowerby and Harmony Elendu, along with a panel of eight past and current contributors, reflect on four and a half years of exploring open source community health. They discuss the evolution of CHAOSS, its impact on open-source sustainability, and the critical role it plays in the software supply chain security. The conversation also covers the challenges and future prospects of open source, emphasizing community collaboration, governance, and inclusivity. The episode concludes with each person sharing a single word that encapsulate the spirit of CHAOSS community. Press download to hear more! [00:01:02] Introduction of our eight guests. [00:03:05] Georg Link shares how the podcast began as a platform to amplify stories about open source community health. [00:07:57] Brian Proffitt reflects on how CHAOSS has evolved to address broader topics like sustainability and security within open source. [00:11:12] Divya Mohan discusses the growth and challenges of the CHAOSS Asian Chapter, including efforts to expand inclusivity across Asia. [00:14:14] Elizabeth Barron highlights emerging leaders and new initiatives line using UNSDG working group and Hacktoberfest projects. [00:16:58] Remy DeCausemaker emphasizes the importance of CHAOSS metrics in supporting open source governance and sustainability in the public sector. [00:19:15] Yehui Wang talks about his favorite metrics models. [00:20:51] Ruth Ikegah shares her journey in open source and the role CHAOSS Africa plays in fostering inclusivity and onboarding contributors. [00:25:43] Georg discusses the growing importance of community health in light of regulatory changes and security concerns. [00:31:07] Brian explains the governance structure and the role of the CHAOSS Board in supporting working groups. [00:33:52] The guests reflect on the inclusive and supportive culture of the CHAOSS Project. [00:44:33] Yehui and Sean highlight the accessible resources and welcoming environment for new contributors. [00:47:35] Everyone shares their hopes for the future, including tackling security challenges, fostering global chapters, and expanding impact. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:57:00] Alice's word is nurturing. [00:57:01] Brian's word is knowledge. [00:57:06] Elizabeth's word is love. [00:57:09] Divya's word is collaboration. [00:57:13] Georg's word is metrics. [00:57:18] Harmony's word is perfect place. [00:57:26] Remy's word is continuity. [00:57:29] Ruth's word is value. [00:57:35] Yehui's word is warm. [00:57:39] Sean's word is karma. Panelists: Alice Sowerby Harmony Elendu Guests: Elizabeth Barron Remy DeCausemaker Sean Goggins Ruth Ikegah Georg Link Divya Mohan Brian Proffitt Yehui Wang Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) Alfred P. Sloan Foundation (https://sloan.org/) Linode (https://www.linode.com/) University of Missouri (https://missouri.edu/) University of Nebraska Omaha (https://www.unomaha.edu/) Alice Sowerby LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/alice-sowerby-ba692a13/?originalSubdomain=uk) Harmony Elendu LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/harmonyelendu/?originalSubdomain=ng) Elizabeth Barron LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethn/) Remy DeCausemaker LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/decause/) Sean Goggins LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/seangoggins/) Ruth Ikegah LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruth-ikegah/?originalSubdomain=ng) Georg Link LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/georglink/) Divya Mohan LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/divya-mohan0209/) Brian Proffitt LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianproffitt/) Yehui Wang LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/yehuiwang/) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 24: Starting a Metrics Company with Luis Cañas-Díaz (https://podcast.chaoss.community/24) Open Source Program Office at CMS (CMS.gov) (https://www.cms.gov/digital-service/open-source-program-office) Project Aspen (https://github.com/oss-aspen) Bitergia Blog (https://blog.bitergia.com/tag/chaoss/) CHAOSS metrix 8KNOT (https://metrix.chaoss.io/) CHAOSS-GitHub (https://github.com/chaoss) CHAOSS DEI Badging Initiative (https://badging.chaoss.community/) Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guests: Remy DeCausemaker and Yehui Wang.

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast- Episode 99 Hosts: Ray Paik Daniël van Eeden Guests: Dawn Foster We're taking a break this week so we're very pleased to share instead an episode from our friends over at Data in the Hallway, hosted by Ray Paik and co-hosted by Daniël van Eeden. Their podcast dives deep into the fascinating world of database technology, open source innovation, and the incredible stories shaping global tech communities. In this episode, Ray and Daniël sit down with Dawn Foster, Director of Data Science at the CHAOSS Project, to explore the re-licensing of major open source projects—a significant trend over the past decade. Together, they unpack the ripple effects this has on community health, share advice for developers navigating Contributor License Agreements, and examine the financial and business implications of re-licensing. They also reflect on whether this trend is likely to continue in the years ahead. Throughout the episode, they reference some excellent resources, including case-study data from CHAOSS, guides on open source organizational dynamics, and financial analyses that add depth to the discussion. Links to these resources are in the show notes if you want to explore further. The case-study data: https://github.com/chaoss/wg-data-science/tree/main/dataset/license-changes/fork-case-study More details about the organizational dynamics in OSS: https://chaoss.community/practitioner-guide-organizational-participation/ Discussion on the topic by James Governor, Amanda Brock, and Dawn Foster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wliDVF3FpI0 Business implications/financial analysis: https://redmonk.com/rstephens/2024/08/26/software-licensing-changes-and-their-impact-on-financial-outcomes/ Magic Roundabout: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MagicRoundabout(Hemel_Hempstead) If you have any feedback or suggestions for episodes, you can email us at podcast@pingcap.com. ————————— About PingCAP and TiDB ————————— PingCAP is the creator of #TiDB, an advanced, #OpenSource, #DistributedSQL database with #MySQL compatibility. TiDB powers modern applications with a streamlined tech stack, elastic scaling, real-time analytics, and continuous access to data—all in a single database. ————————— Developer resources —————————

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 97 In this episode of CHAOSScast, Harmony Elendu hosts a discussion with Emily Fox from Red Hat and Dawn Foster, the Director of Data Science at CHAOSS. Today, they explore the new Security Practitioner Guide created to help maintainers, who may lack deep security backgrounds, get started with essential security practices. Emily and Dawn highlight actionable steps, key trends, and simplifications to adopt in maintaining a secure project. They also touch on challenges like vulnerability reporting and the importance of consistent monitoring and updating. Additionally, the guide's flexibility, allowing customization and improvement over time, and the significance of community support are emphasized. Press download now to hear more! [00:02:02] Dawn starts out with providing an overview of CHAOSS Project's Practitioner Guides, which helps newcomers to open source understand key metrics and mentions the current focus on the Security Guide. [00:03:24] Dawn gives us an overview of the Security Practitioner Guide as she describes it as a starting point for maintainers, particularly those without a security background. [00:04:10] Emily emphasizes that many maintainers struggle with starting security practices and shares the two primary security focuses on open source: project security design and repository security. [00:05:38] Harmony notes the importance of project design and patterns, asking about security trends and considerations in open source projects. Dawn mentions the Libyears (dependency freshness) and Release Frequency as key security metrics, and Emily adds that OpenSSF best practices contribute to project quality and maturity. [00:08:32] Harmony asks for insights on how contributors can interpret these metrics. Emily suggests various resources and communities, such as CNCF's tag-security, for maintainers looking to improve security. [00:11:39] Emily discusses common issues with vulnerability reporting and the importance of having a process in place, with community resources available for support. Dawn emphasizes the importance of having basic security policies in place early on in a project and suggests starting out with a simple security.md file to outline how to handle vulnerability reports. [00:15:47] Dawn suggests consulting the Practitioners Guide's “Make Improvements” section, which included adding a security.md file and implementing automation to track outdated dependencies and Emily cautions that metrics are only as effective as their relevance, recommending incremental steps for improvement. [00:18:53] Dawn highlights the importance of the OpenSSF scorecard, which helps both maintainers and OSPOs assess project security. [00:20:29] Emily and Dawn simplify the Practitioner Guides into basic steps and Emily reiterates that projects should define their own security goals and commit to them for consistent improvements. [00:23:56] Harmony emphasizes the importance of documentation for continuity in project security and Dawn reminds us that the Practitioner Guides are MIT-licensed and customizable for different projects. [00:25:11] Dawn and Emily explain where you can ask questions or how to implement things in your project using the Practitioner's Guide. Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:26:55] Dawn's pick is 3D printing and learning how to design new things. [00:28:02] Emily's pick is taking a break from the internet and doing something outside. [00:28:45] Harmony's pick is creating personalized templates to help with document preparation and tasks. Panelists: Harmony Elendu Dawn Foster Guest: Emily Fox Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Harmony Elendu X (https://x.com/ogaharmony) Dawn Foster X (https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn?lang=en) Emily Fox LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/themoxiefox/) CHAOSS Practitioner Guides (https://chaoss.community/about-chaoss-practitioner-guides/) CHAOSS Practitioner Guide: Security (https://chaoss.community/practitioner-guide-security/) Libyears (https://chaoss.community/kb/metric-libyears/#:~:text=Libyears%20measure%20the%20cumulative%20age,pre%2Drelease%20or%20draft%20versions.) Release Frequency (https://chaoss.community/kb/metric-release-frequency/#:~:text=A%20higher%20frequency%20of%20releases,release%20frequency%20is%20highly%20variable.) Cloud Native Contributors Security Guidelines for New Projects (https://contribute.cncf.io/maintainers/security/security-guidelines/?__hstc=14121576.4fb61b7546863875121fa3925ca0436f.1730700856190.1730700856190.1730744858650.2&__hssc=14121576.1.1730744858650&__hsfp=3331628428) GitHub Docs-Adding a security policy to your repository (https://contribute.cncf.io/maintainers/security/security-guidelines/?__hstc=14121576.4fb61b7546863875121fa3925ca0436f.1730700856190.1730700856190.1730744858650.2&__hssc=14121576.1.1730744858650&__hsfp=3331628428) OpenSSF Scorecard (https://scorecard.dev/) OpenSSF-Source Code Management Platform Configuration Best Practices (https://best.openssf.org/SCM-BestPractices/?__hstc=14121576.4fb61b7546863875121fa3925ca0436f.1730700856190.1730700856190.1730744858650.2&__hssc=14121576.1.1730744858650&__hsfp=3331628428) CNCF tag-security: Self-assessment (https://github.com/cncf/tag-security/blob/main/community/assessments/guide/self-assessment.md) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 85: Introducing CHAOSS Practitioner Guides: #1 Responsiveness (https://podcast.chaoss.community/85) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 88: Practitioner Guides: #2 Contributor Sustainability (https://podcast.chaoss.community/88) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 89: Practitioner Guides: #3 Organizational Participation (https://podcast.chaoss.community/89) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 93: Guest Episode-Sustain meets CHAOSScast to talk about Practitioner Guides (https://podcast.chaoss.community/93) Dawn Foster- Maker World (https://makerworld.com/en/@user_3491927221) Special Guest: Emily Fox.

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast- Episode 93 Guests: Elizabeth Barron Luis Cañas-Diaz Dawn Foster Panelists: Alice Sowerby Richard Littauer In this episode of CHAOSScast, it's a crossover with Sustain, host Richard Littauer is joined by three guests, Dawn Foster, Elizabeth Barron, and Luis Cañas Diaz, to discuss the CHAOSS Project's recent development of Practitioner Guides. The show delves into the purpose of these guides, which are designed to help open source projects interpret and utilize metrics to improve community health and sustainability. The guests explain the significance of metrics in open source projects, the challenges of defining and making them accessible, and how the guides can benefit different types of projects, from large corporations to individual developers. Topics covered include the background and format of the guides, specifics on the metrics discussed, and the practical applications and improvements these guides aim to facilitate. Go ahead and download this episode now! [00:03:03] Dawn fills us in on the connections between the guests and their collective work on the CHAOSS Practitioner Guides. [00:03:43] The conversation shifts to the specifics of the CHAOSS Project, highlighting the international community involvement and various working groups focusing on different aspects of open source projects like corporate OSPOs, university OSPOs, and diversity and equity initiatives. [00:05:31] Luis describes the origin and work of Bitergia and its collaboration with CHAOSS Project, particularly in developing tools like Grimoire Lab. [00:07:17] Richard turns the discussion to the CHAOSS Project's Practitioner Guides, where Dawn discusses the purpose of the introduction guide in the series, designed to help users understand and apply metrics effectively across various open source contexts. [00:10:58] There's a discussion on the format of the guides, emphasizing their accessibility, ethical considerations in data handling, and how they're designed to be adaptable to different needs. Luis highlights the need for CHAOSS and Bitergia projects to provide actionable insights rather than just more metrics. [00:13:28] Elizabeth and Dawn explain the broader goal of the guides to not only provide metrics but also helps users interpret and apply these to drive tangible improvements in open source projects. [00:14:54] We learn about the target audience for the guides and how they cater to both large organizational structures (OSPOs) and individual project maintainers. [00:16:15] Dawn explains what the Contributor Sustainability Guide focuses on, emphasizing strategies for sustainable contribution and community involvement in open source projects. [00:17:53] The discussion centers on renaming the “bus factor” metric to “contributor absence factor” to avoid the negative connotations of the original term, Luis emphasizes the relevance of metrics, particularly in small projects, and Dawn explains that the guides focus on a few key metrics per guide, chosen for their ease of understanding and minimal requirement for data collection. [00:21:58] Richard inquires about the effectiveness of metrics in identifying if a project is on the wrong path, prompting a discussion on the goals of a project and how metrics align with those metrics. Elizabeth and Dawn stress the importance of aligning metrics with project goals and involving project contributors in discussions about what metrics are most relevant. [00:24:35] The discussion continues with considerations on how metrics should supplement, not replace, expert judgement and involvement in project management. Elizabeth and Richard discuss the potential for projects to start with community growth in mind and the challenges in measuring and guiding such growth. [00:28:18] The conversation switches to the remaining guides not yet covered, with Richard asking about the guides on Responsiveness and Organizational Participation. Dawn explains the Responsiveness guide, with its focus on key metrics like time to first response, time to close, and change request closure ratio. Elizabeth and Luis share why this is one of their favorite guides. [00:33:23] We hear about the broader applicability of the guides. Richard questions if the guides are only for corporate-driven projects or if they can serve more relaxed open source environments. Dawn and Luis emphasize that the guides are valuable for a variety of stakeholders, including foundations and volunteers. [00:35:00] Find out where you can look at the Practitioner Guides online. Quotes: [00:07:44] “At the CHAOSS Project we have a whole bunch of metrics, and we have tools or software that help you gather those metrics.” [00:08:06] “There is no one-size-fits-all approach to interpreting metrics.” [00:15:10] “A lot of these guides were designed with OSPOs in mind. They're all useful to anyone who's managing a project.” [00:19:55] “For metrics, the bigger the project, the more useful they are.” Spotlight: [00:35:54] Richard's spotlight is Johnny Wilson, an eBird reviewer. [00:36:34]** Elizabeth's **spotlight is a project called Clocker. [00:37:30] Dawn's spotlight is Nadia Eghbal's book, _Working in Public: The Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software, _and her paper, “Roads and Bridges: The Unseen Labor Behind Our Digital Infrastructure.” [00:38:29] Luis's spotlight is Moodle, the OSS learning platform. Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS slack (https://chaoss-workspace.slack.com/join/shared_invite/zt-28p56bayt-67TRjdA4yJWQmUd4hCzULg#/shared-invite/email) CHAOSS Practitioner Guides (https://chaoss.community/about-chaoss-practitioner-guides/) SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) SustainOSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Open Collective-SustainOSS (Contribute) (https://opencollective.com/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Socials (https://www.burntfen.com/2023-05-30/socials) Alice Sowerby Website (https://www.rosmarin.co.uk/) Elizabeth Barron Website (https://www.elizabeth-barron.com/) Elizabeth Barron LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethn/) Luis Cañas-Diaz Website (https://sanacl.wordpress.com/) Luis Cañas-Diaz LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/canasdiaz/) Dawn Foster Website (https://fastwonderblog.com/) Dawn Foster LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dawnfoster/) Johnny Wilson-Ventures Birding Tours (https://www.birdventures.com/Johnny-Wilson.html) Clocker (https://abhishekbanthia.com/clocker/) Working in Public: The Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software by Nadia Eghbal (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578675862/) “Roads and Bridges: The Unseen Labor Behind Our Digital Infrastructure” by Nadia Eghbal (https://www.fordfoundation.org/work/learning/research-reports/roads-and-bridges-the-unseen-labor-behind-our-digital-infrastructure/) Nadia Asparouhova (Eghbal) Website (https://nadia.xyz/oss/) Moodle (https://moodle.org/) Sustain Podcast featuring Nadia Eghbal (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/guests/nadia) Credits: Produced by [Richard Littauer] (https://www.burntfen.com/) (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at [Peachtree Sound] (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr [Peachtree Sound] (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guests: Luis Cañas-Díaz and Richard Littauer.

Laura Bates threads the needle in her undercover investigation into incel culture, misogyny and the manosphere. Unfiltered and rough on the eyes, Bates is brave enough to tackle a thorny issue head-on and come out still standing, her strong arguments standing up across 300 pages. Weaving together online and RW examples, we're privy to forums, threads, vlogs, interviews, protests and in-person meet-ups as Bates walks the beat of investigative journalist/activist. Is male-on-female violence a form of terrorism? You'll have to read it to find out. Keep one eye out for Bates' adept use a whole bag of persuasive techniques, from stats and figures to anecdotes and eyewitness accounts. Especially powerful are her metaphors - watch out for the Guinea worm burrowing into your leg! Other reading: - Going Mainstream by Julia Ebner - 12 Rules for Life by Jordan Peterson - Lean Out by Dawn Foster

Guest Brian Douglas Panelist Richard Littauer Show Notes In this episode of Sustain, host Richard Littauer talks with Brian “bdougie” Douglas, founder and CEO of Open Sauced. They discuss the multifaceted aspects of sustaining open source projects, Brian's journey in developer advocacy, and the unique goals of Open Sauced. Brian shares insights from his experiences at GitHub and Netlify, elaborates on concepts like lottery factor and the significance of unique issue authors, and tackles the challenges of maintaining open source sustainability. He also explores the balance of addressing enterprise needs while supporting smaller, less visible projects and emphasizes the importance of education and community engagement in open source. Press download now! [00:01:54] Brian discusses his background at GitHub and Netlify, his role in promoting GraphQL, GitHub Actions, Codespaces, and the inception of Open Sauced. [00:03:08] We hear about the features of Open Sauced's dashboard which enhances GitHub insights, OSSF scorecards, and workspace customizations for managing multiple projects. [00:04:31] Open Sauced's business model is currently founded by VC money and aims to serve large organizations with significant open source dependencies, and Brian talks about the team size and funding history. [00:06:08] Brian elaborates on Open Sauced's long-term sustainability plan, focusing on enterprise-level solutions for open source project observability and contributions. [00:09:31] There's a discussion on how Open Sauced interacts with open source communities and the importance of real-world testing and contributions to open source projects. [00:11:06] Richard highlights the FOSS Funders initiative, encouraging companies to support open source projects financially and through active participation. [00:12:44] Brian shares insights on effective metrics for evaluating open source projects, emphasizing the importance of engaging with unique issue authors rather than focusing solely on superficial metrics like pull requests, and discusses his approach to starting meaningful conversations in the open source community. [00:16:08] Brian explains why he renamed “Lottery Factor” to “Contributor Absence Factor,” and discusses the Pgvector project to illustrate the importance of understanding the “Contributor Absence Factor” and the sustainability concerns when a project relies heavily on a few contributors. [00:18:20] We learn more about how Open Sauced sources its data, including their use of GitHub's events feed and their development of the “Pizza Oven” tool to generate insights from Git repositories. [00:20:21] Richard and Brian discuss the challenges of maintaining an open source ethos when dealing with large companies' internal projects, avoiding becoming merely service providers for large corporate entities. [00:24:14] Brian discusses the long-term implications of open source projects that receive substantial funding or become integrated into larger corporate frameworks. [00:27:27] Richard brings up the difficulty many open source projects face in accessing significant funding and Brian shares his vision for supporting less prominent open source projects drawing analogies from his personal experiences. [00:32:42] Richard questions the “up the chain” analogy, comparing it to a pyramid scheme or academia's tenure track. Brian acknowledges the need to support contributors at all levels, not just those at the top, and he introduces the concept of a S Bomb to provide transparency about project dependencies. [00:39:36] Find out where you can follow Brian on the web. Spotlight [00:40:17] Richard's spotlight is Mr. Carreras, an awesome music teacher. [00:40:59] Brian's spotlight is Dawn Foster at the CHAOSS Project and the CHAOSS Practitioner Guides. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (email) (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) richard@theuserismymom.com (email) (mailto:richard@theuserismymom.com) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Open Collective-SustainOSS (Contribute) (https://opencollective.com/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Socials (https://www.burntfen.com/2023-05-30/socials) Brian Douglas- Open Sauced (https://app.opensauced.pizza/u/bdougie) Brian Douglas Website (https://b.dougie.dev/) Brian Douglas GitHub (https://github.com/bdougie) Brian Douglas X/Twitter (https://github.com/bdougie) The Secret Sauce Open Sauced Podcast (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-secret-sauce/id1644263270) The Secret Sauce Podcast: ‘The Future of Cloud Native and AI with Brendan Burns' (https://podcasts.apple.com/fr/podcast/the-future-of-cloud-native-and-ai-with-brendan-burns/id1644263270?i=1000658092259) Open Sauced (https://opensauced.pizza/) Renaming Bus Factor #632 (CHAOSS community) (https://github.com/chaoss/community/issues/632#issuecomment-2152929617) FOSS Funders (https://fossfunders.com/) Andrew Kane GitHub (https://github.com/ankane) Chad Whitacre Website (https://chadwhitacre.com/) Fair Source (https://fair.io/) CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) Your Copilot for Git History (Open Sauced) (https://opensauced.pizza/docs/features/star-search/) Open Sauced GitHub (https://github.com/open-sauced/pizza) InnerSource Commons (https://innersourcecommons.org/) Sustain Podcast-Episode 148: Ali Nehzat of thanks.dev and OSS Funding (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/148) Learning in Public with Kelsey Hightower (Curiefense) (https://www.curiefense.io/blog/learning-in-public-with-kelsey-hightower/) Welcome to Wrexham (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_to_Wrexham) Sustain Podcast-Episode 159: Dawn Foster & Andrew Nesbitt at State of Open Con 2023 (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/guests/foster) Dr. Dawn Foster Mastodon (https://hachyderm.io/@geekygirldawn) About the CHAOSS Practitioner Guides (https://chaoss.community/about-chaoss-practitioner-guides/) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guest: Brian Douglas.

Guests Elizabeth Barron | Luis Cañas-Diaz | Dawn Foster Panelist Richard Littauer Show Notes In this episode of Sustain, host Richard Littauer is joined by three guests, Dawn Foster, Elizabeth Barron, and Luis Cañas Diaz, to discuss the CHAOSS Project's recent development of Practitioner Guides. The show delves into the purpose of these guides, which are designed to help open source projects interpret and utilize metrics to improve community health and sustainability. The guests explain the significance of metrics in open source projects, the challenges of defining and making them accessible, and how the guides can benefit different types of projects, from large corporations to individual developers. Topics covered include the background and format of the guides, specifics on the metrics discussed, and the practical applications and improvements these guides aim to facilitate. Go ahead and download this episode now! [00:01:53] Dawn fills us in on the connections between the guests and their collective work on the CHAOSS Practitioner Guides. [00:02:33] The conversation shifts to the specifics of the CHAOSS Project, highlighting the international community involvement and various working groups focusing on different aspects of open source projects like corporate OSPOs, university OSPOs, and diversity and equity initiatives. [00:04:21] Luis describes the origin and work of Bitergia and its collaboration with CHAOSS Project, particularly in developing tools like Grimoire Lab. [00:06:07] Richard turns the discussion to the CHAOSS Project's Practitioner Guides, where Dawn discusses the purpose of the introduction guide in the series, designed to help users understand and apply metrics effectively across various open source contexts. [00:09:48] There's a discussion on the format of the guides, emphasizing their accessibility, ethical considerations in data handling, and how they're designed to be adaptable to different needs. Luis highlights the need for CHAOSS and Bitergia projects to provide actionable insights rather than just more metrics. [00:12:18] Elizabeth and Dawn explain the broader goal of the guides to not only provide metrics but also helps users interpret and apply these to drive tangible improvements in open source projects. [00:13:44] We learn about the target audience for the guides and how they cater to both large organizational structures (OSPOs) and individual project maintainers. [00:15:04] Dawn explains what the Contributor Sustainability Guide focuses on, emphasizing strategies for sustainable contribution and community involvement in open source projects. [00:16:42] The discussion centers on renaming the “bus factor” metric to “contributor absence factor” to avoid the negative connotations of the original term, Luis emphasizes the relevance of metrics, particularly in small projects, and Dawn explains that the guides focus on a few key metrics per guide, chosen for their ease of understanding and minimal requirement for data collection. [00:20:47] Richard inquires about the effectiveness of metrics in identifying if a project is on the wrong path, prompting a discussion on the goals of a project and how metrics align with those metrics. Elizabeth and Dawn stress the importance of aligning metrics with project goals and involving project contributors in discussions about what metrics are most relevant. [00:23:26] The discussion continues with considerations on how metrics should supplement, not replace, expert judgement and involvement in project management. Elizabeth and Richard discuss the potential for projects to start with community growth in mind and the challenges in measuring and guiding such growth. [00:27:07] The conversation switches to the remaining guides not yet covered, with Richard asking about the guides on Responsiveness and Organizational Participation. Dawn explains the Responsiveness guide, with its focus on key metrics like time to first response, time to close, and change request closure ratio. Elizabeth and Luis share why this is one of their favorite guides. [00:32:12] We hear about the broader applicability of the guides. Richard questions if the guides are only for corporate-driven projects or if they can serve more relaxed open source environments. Dawn and Luis emphasize that the guides are valuable for a variety of stakeholders, including foundations and volunteers. [00:33:49] Find out where you can look at the Practitioner Guides online. Quotes [00:06:34] “At the CHAOSS Project we have a whole bunch of metrics, and we have tools or software that help you gather those metrics.” [00:06:56] “There is no one-size-fits-all approach to interpreting metrics.” [00:14:00] “A lot of these guides were designed with OSPOs in mind. They're all useful to anyone who's managing a project.” [00:18:45] “For metrics, the bigger the project, the more useful they are.” Spotlight [00:34:43] Richard's spotlight is Johnny Wilson, an eBird reviewer. [00:35:23] Elizabeth's spotlight is a project called Clocker. [00:36:19] Dawn's spotlight is Nadia Eghbal's book, _Working in Public: The Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software, _and her paper, “Roads and Bridges: The Unseen Labor Behind Our Digital Infrastructure.” [00:37:18] Luis's spotlight is Moodle, the OSS learning platform. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) SustainOSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Open Collective-SustainOSS (Contribute) (https://opencollective.com/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Socials (https://www.burntfen.com/2023-05-30/socials) Elizabeth Barron Website (https://www.elizabeth-barron.com/) Elizabeth Barron LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethn/) Luis Cañas-Diaz Website (https://sanacl.wordpress.com/) Luis Cañas-Diaz LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/canasdiaz/) Dawn Foster Website (https://fastwonderblog.com/) Dawn Foster LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dawnfoster/) CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS slack (https://chaoss-workspace.slack.com/join/shared_invite/zt-28p56bayt-67TRjdA4yJWQmUd4hCzULg#/shared-invite/email) CHAOSS Practitioner Guides (https://chaoss.community/about-chaoss-practitioner-guides/) Johnny Wilson-Ventures Birding Tours (https://www.birdventures.com/Johnny-Wilson.html) Clocker (https://abhishekbanthia.com/clocker/) Working in Public: The Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software by Nadia Eghbal (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578675862/) “Roads and Bridges: The Unseen Labor Behind Our Digital Infrastructure” by Nadia Eghbal (https://www.fordfoundation.org/work/learning/research-reports/roads-and-bridges-the-unseen-labor-behind-our-digital-infrastructure/) Nadia Asparouhova (Eghbal) Website (https://nadia.xyz/oss/) Moodle (https://moodle.org/) Sustain Podcast featuring Nadia Eghbal (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/guests/nadia) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guests: Dawn Foster, Elizabeth Barron, and Luis Cañas Diaz.

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 89 In this episode of CHAOSSCast, host Alice Sowerby is joined by panelists Dawn Foster, Elizabeth Barron, and Harmony Elendu, to discuss the importance and complexities of organizational participation in open source projects. They delve into how the CHAOSS Practitioner Guides help users make sense of CHAOSS metrics and provide insights on improving open source project health. The conversation covers the significance of diverse organizational participation, the role of community managers, and the challenges of accurately measuring organizational contributions. Additionally, they highlight tools like Augur and Grimoire Lab that aid in data collection and analysis as well as offer practical advice for both individuals and companies to foster healthier, more inclusive open source communities. Press download now to hear more! [00:01:50] Dawn gives an overview of the Practitioner Guides that aim to help users navigate the extensive metrics from the CHAOSS Project. They focus on single topics to improve open source project health by making data more accessible. [00:03:19] Why is the Practitioner Guide so important? Dawn explains that organizational participation impacts open source projects' evolution and Elizabeth makes a point that measuring organizational influence is complex and often not straightforward. [00:05:40] There's a discussion on the key factors in organizational participation. Dawn talks about ideal projects having diverse contributors from various organizations, and Elizabeth talks about leadership roles within the project, such as technical steering committee positions that are crucial. [00:09:49] We learn about the problems that people discover and the solutions to resolve the problems as Dawn explains how they've broken down the make improvements section into two different categories. Elizabeth explains how leadership roles within the project, such as technical steering committee positions, are crucial. [00:12:37] Alice mentions if a project is not crucial for an organization's control, donating to a foundation, like CNCF, can be beneficial for wider adoption and support. Dawn adds that donating a project to a foundation can help if the goal is community growth and projects should not be donated merely for marketing purposes. [00:14:24] There's a conversation on how community managers can help facilitate transparency and encourage open contributions rather that keeping discussions and decisions private within the dominant organization, and they can ensure that onboarding experiences, documentation, and community building are prioritized. [00:17:24] Harmony talks about the impact of organizational dominance when one organization dominates a project, it can reduce the project's openness and health and increasing opportunities for external contributions can enhance diversity and inclusion. [00:19:20] The conversation shifts to challenges in measuring metrics and Elizabeth explains cleaning and maintaining accurate data on contributors is challenging due to issues with email addresses and personal vs. organizational contributions. Dawn tells us about the CNCF using YAML or JSON files to track organizational affiliations and update contributor data, but it requires manual effort to keep this information accurate. [00:23:57 ] Alice brings up limitations of metrics since metrics alone don't provide a complete picture, and Elizabeth shares how metrics should be used alongside insights from practitioners and combining metrics with intuition and observing the project directly provides a better overview. [00:25:22] Dawn mentions to accurately assess project leadership and contributions, it's important to talk to people involved since not all leadership roles and contributions are reflected in metrics or governance documents. [00:26:29] Elizabeth inquires if any projects require contributors to fill out profiles indicating if they are contributing personally or on behalf of their company. Dawn explains that she hasn't seen projects require contribution profiles as a prerequisite, and tools like Augur and Grimoire Lab, with its Sorting Hat feature, help manage and clean organizational data. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:29:13] Dawn's pick is going on vacation to visit her family. [00:29:38] Elizabeth's pick is making mead with her grown son. [00:30:27] Harmony's pick is reaching out to old friends to make you smile. [00:31:22] Alice's pick is Dot, an AI companion app. Panelists: Alice Sowerby Dawn Foster Elizabeth Barron Harmony Elendu Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Alice Sowerby Website (https://www.rosmarin.co.uk/) Dawn Foster X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn?lang=en) Elizabeth Barron X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/elizabethn) Harmony Elendu X/Twitter (https://x.com/ogaharmony) Harmony Elendu Substack (https://substack.com/@harmonyelendu) Harmony Elendu LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/harmonyelendu/) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 85- Introducing CHAOSS Practitioner Guides: #1 Responsiveness (https://podcast.chaoss.community/85) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 88-Practitioner Guides: #2 Contributor Sustainability (https://podcast.chaoss.community/88) CHAOSS- Practitioner Guide: Organizational Participation (https://chaoss.community/practitioner-guide-organizational-participation/) Augur (https://github.com/chaoss/augur) Grimoire Lab: Sorting Hat (https://github.com/chaoss/grimoirelab-sortinghat) The Elder Scrolls: The Official Cookbook by Chelsea Monroe-Cassel (https://www.amazon.com/dp/1683833988) Dot (https://new.computer/)

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 88 In this episode of CHAOSSScast, host Alice Sowerby, along with Dawn Foster and Elizabeth Barron, discuss measuring and improving open source community health through contributor sustainability. The conversation highlights the importance of documentation, the balance of contributor roles, and proactive community building. They share insights and examples on how projects can avoid single points of failure, the significance of onboarding processes, and the impact of asking for help. The discussion also underscores the human aspects of open source contributions and provides practical strategies for long-term project viability. Press download now to hear more! [00:02:11] Dawn explains that practitioner guides are designed for non-experts to help interpret data on open source projects, highlighting the overwhelming amount of data involved. [00:03:24] Dawn mentions the first four practitioner guides, including an introductory guide, and specific guides on contributor sustainability, responsiveness, and organizational participation. [00:04:14] Alice asks why contributor sustainability is so important, to which Dawn responds that it significantly impacts overall project sustainability. She references the xkcd dependency comic to illustrate the vulnerability of projects reliant on few contributors. [00:05:41] Elizabeth notes the increasing awareness of proactive approach towards ensuring contributor sustainability in open source. [00:06:33] Dawn discusses specific metrics like the contributor absence factor, emphasizing the importance of a balanced contributor base. She shares a story about a Java project stalling due to the sole maintainer's incarceration. [00:08:50] There's a discussion about the importance of recognizing diverse contributions beyond code, such as community management and documentation. Dawn highlights the efficiency that professional roles can bring to these areas. [00:11:39] Elizabeth shares concerns about a specific open source project with a large user base but limited active contributors, highlighting the risks involved. Dawn briefly mentions the structure of the practitioner guides, particularly focusing on the steps for making improvements in project sustainability. [00:15:57] Elizabeth emphasizes the importance of making documentation not only informative but also welcoming, and Dawn suggests ways to make contributions easier. [00:18:43] Elizabeth highlights the value of recognition in open source communities, Dawn discusses the idea of expanding roles within projects beyond the binary of contributors and maintainers, and there's a discussion on the importance of distributing work among several people to avoid over-reliance on a single contributor. [00:21:55] Dawn shares that improving contributor sustainability is a long-term effort and suggests staring with areas that can make the biggest impact. Elizabeth reflects on the psychological aspect of maintainers having to share control of projects, which can be challenging but is necessary for project growth and sustainability. [00:27:39] Elizabeth expresses a desire to see more open source projects include community building or growth as a deliberate part of their roadmaps, and Dawn encourages feedback on the practitioner guides to improve them, highlighting the importance of community input in enhancing these resources. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:29:52] Alice's pick is a paper she recently read on “Dark matter could be primordial black holes,” and a discovery by the Francis Crick Institute in London of a biological pathway that's a major driver of IBD. [00:31:21] Dawn's pick is re-watching “Friends” TV show. [00:31:52] Elizabeth's pick is watching “Lord of the Rings Trilogy” at the movie theatre. Panelists: Alice Sowerby Dawn Foster Elizabeth Barron Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community-email (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community-email) Dawn Foster X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn?lang=en) Alice Sowerby Website (https://www.rosmarin.co.uk/) Elizabeth Barron X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/elizabethn) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 85: Introducing CHAOSS Practitioner Guides: #1 Responsiveness (https://podcast.chaoss.community/85) Practitioner Guide: Contributor Sustainability-CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/practitioner-guide-contributor-sustainability/) xkcd-Dependency (https://xkcd.com/2347/) Colorful Primordial Black Holes (https://physics.aps.org/articles/v17/s69) IBD Breakthrough (https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jun/05/bowel-disease-hope-researchers-find-biological-pathway)

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 86 In this episode of CHAOSScast, co-hosts Alice Sowerby and Dawn Foster welcome guests Aida Mehonic, Malvika Sharan, and Kirstie Whittaker from The Alan Turing Institute. The discussion begins with delving into the Institute's strategic vision, focused on using data science and AI to address global challenges in environment, health, and security. They examine the role of open source contributions in enhancing the ethical, accessible, and impactful uses of AI. The episode highlights various projects, such as The Turing Way, and the importance of community building, inclusive research practices, and the ethical considerations of AI. They also discuss the integration of CHAOSS metrics in their work and explore future projects and initiatives at The Alan Turing Institute. Press download now to hear more! [00:02:58] Kirstie gives an overview of The Turing Institute's strategic vision and explains the three missions. [00:06:22] Aida talks about the importance of communicating with organizations to align on a shared mission and the impact and value of money of publicly funded projects. [00:08:38] Malvika brings in the stakeholders ensuring that users, communities, and patients have a say in AI development and empowering educators to incorporate AI, also she talks about working across different projects like Data Science Without Borders and BridgeAI, to accelerate AI's impact on health and SME's. [00:11:02] The conversation switches to embracing ethical AI usage and encouraging others to do the same. Kirstie details the ethical components of AI using the SAFE-D approach: Safety and sustainability, Accountability, Fairness and non-discrimination, Explainability and transparency, and Data quality, integrity, protection, and privacy. [00:17:17] Malvika talks about the importance of considering the societal impact of research at The Turing Institute, she highlights the differences between the EU AI Act and the open source community approach and emphasizes that users should know their rights regarding data collection and sharing. [00:19:49] Aida tells us about a case study on A/B street, an open source street planning tool. They partnered up with Bristol City Council and used this tool to facilitate community involvement in urban planning decisions. [00:23:52] Aida mentions having conversation she's been in has focused on at Turing on democratizing technology to reach a broader set of end users. [00:24:14] Dawn loves Turing's collaborative approach and acknowledges the challenges in making AI and data science intuitive for everyone. [00:24:54] Kirstie discusses the difficulty of meaningful stakeholder engagement. She talks about the importance of being willing to pivot project goals based on community feedback. [00:26:51] Alice brings up CHAOSS metrics and inquires how they fit into The Turing Institute's work. Malvika explains that CHAOSS metrics is one of the only metrics that help them for understanding equity, diversity, and inclusion (EDI) in community health. [00:31:00] Dawn highlights the need to combine quantitative metrics with qualitative research. Kirstie shares that data scientists often don't see their work as part of open source or community led projects. Aida comments on using CHAOSS metrics to justify the impact of open source research funded by taxpayer money. [00:36:05] Dawn asks about the future focus areas for The Turing Institute. Kirstie mentions the BridgeAI Initiative to support SMEs in the UK in leveraging data and the expansion of The Turing Way Practitioner Hub to support experts in organizations and foster global knowledge exchange. [00:38:28] Aida shares her excitement about a potential incubator at Turing focused on pathways to impact for research. Malvika shares her excitement for professionalization and recognition of various data science roles. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:40:54] Dawn's pick is GitHub's GraphQL API. [00:41:21] Malvika's pick is celebrating 5 years of The Turing Way. [00:41:53] Aida's pick is the incubator she talked about earlier. [00:42:26] Kirstie's pick is the Organizational Mycology team: Dan Sholler, Beth Duckles, and Jonah Duckles. [00:43:30] Alice's pick is listening to some podcasts about nuclear semiotics. Panelists: Alice Sowerby Dawn Foster Guests: Aida Mehonic Malvika Sharan Kirstie Whitaker Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Georg Link Website (https://georg.link/) Dawn Foster X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn?lang=en) Alice Sowerby Website (https://www.rosmarin.co.uk/) Aida Mehonic LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/aida-mehonic-5264613/?originalSubdomain=uk) Dr. Aida Mehonic-The Alan Turing Institute (https://www.turing.ac.uk/people/business-team/aida-mehonic) Malvika Sharan LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/malvikasharan/?originalSubdomain=uk) Dr. Malvika Sharan-The Alan Turing Institute (https://www.turing.ac.uk/people/researchers/malvika-sharan) Kirstie Whitaker LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirstiewhitaker/?originalSubdomain=uk) Dr. Kirstie Whitaker-The Alan Turing Institute (https://www.turing.ac.uk/people/researchers/kirstie-whitaker) The Alan Turing Institute (https://www.turing.ac.uk/) The Turing Way (https://www.turing.ac.uk/research/research-projects/turing-way) Launch of the Data Science Without Borders Project (https://codata.org/launch-of-the-data-science-without-borders-project/) BridgeAI (https://iuk.ktn-uk.org/programme/bridge) ‘Using AI in the public sector: New comprehensive guidance'-The Alan Turing Institute (https://www.turing.ac.uk/news/using-ai-public-sector-new-comprehensive-guidance) AI Ethics and Governance in Practice-The Alan Turing Institute (https://www.turing.ac.uk/research/research-projects/ai-ethics-and-governance-practice) Operationalising the SAFE-D principles for Open Source AI-Open Source Initiative (https://opensource.org/deepdive/webinars/operationalising-the-safe-d-principles-for-open-source-ai/) A/B Street (https://a-b-street.github.io/docs/) ‘Street smart: putting neighbourhood design in the hands of Bristol residents'-The Alan Turing Institute (https://www.turing.ac.uk/blog/street-smart-putting-neighbourhood-design-hands-bristol-residents) The Turing Way Practitioners Hub (https://www.turing.ac.uk/turing-way-practitioners-hub) GraphQL API-GitHub (https://docs.github.com/en/graphql) Organizational Mycology (https://orgmycology.com/about/) American Hysteria Podcast-Talking to the Future: Nuclear Semiotics (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-to-the-future-nuclear-semiotics/id1441348407?i=1000655384185) 99% Invisible Podcast: Ten Thousand Years Episode 114 (https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/ten-thousand-years/) Special Guests: Aida Mehonic, Kirstie Whitaker, and Malvika Sharan.

Guests Eva Maxfield Brown | Boris Veytsman Panelist Richard Littauer Show Notes In this episode of Sustain, host Richard Littauer engages with guests Eva Maxfield Brown and Boris Veytsman to explore their co-authored paper, "Biomedical Open Source Software: Crucial Packages and Hidden Heroes." The paper focuses on identifying crucial but often overlooked software dependencies in biomedical research. The discussions delve into how the study used data from two million papers to map these dependencies, revealing both well-supported and undermaintained software components vital to scientific research. There's a conversation on the methodological challenges and the concept of "Nebraska packages," which are essential yet potentially undermaintained elements crucial to the software stack used in both industry and science. The conversation also covers broader implications for software sustainability, security, and future research directions, including improving how software contributions are tracked and recognized within scientific careers. Press download now to hear more! [00:01:47] Richard dives into the paper co-authored by Eva and Boris. Boris explains the origins of the paper, starting from a workshop at CZI aimed at accelerating science through sustainable software, leading to the analysis of software used in biomedical research. He highlights the focus on identifying crucial yet often unmentioned software dependencies in research software, which he labels as “unsung heroes.” [00:05:22] Boris provides findings from their study, noting that while many foundational packages were cited, there are significant packages that, despite their critical role, remain uncited. [00:06:43] Eva discusses the concept of “Nebraska packages,” which are essential yet potentially undermaintained components that are crucial to the software stack used in both industry and science. Also, she elaborates on the methodological challenges of determining which packages to include in their analysis, particularly in terms of dependencies that vary between different users and contexts. [00:09:42] Richard reflects on the broader implications of their discussion for the open source community, particularly in terms of software sustainability and security. Eva emphasizes the importance of security across all fields and discusses the potential impact of software bugs on scientific research and the need for robust software infrastructure. [00:12:04] Boris comments on the necessity of well-tested tools in the scientific community, given that many scientists may lack a strong background in software development and training. [00:13:47] Richard quotes from the paper discussing the absence of cycles in the network of software packages used in science, indicating a more robust design compared to general software. He questions this in light of earlier comments about scientists not being great at coding. [00:14:08] Eva explains that the paper's findings about acyclic dependencies (DAGs) might seem surprising given the common perception that scientific software is poorly developed. She notes that while scientists may not be trained in proper software packaging, the Python environment helps prevent cyclic dependencies. [00:17:31] Richard brings up “Katz centrality” which is discussed in the paper, and Boris clarifies that “Katz centrality” refers to a concept by Leo Katz on network centrality, explaining how it helps determine the importance of nodes within a network. [00:20:13] Richard questions the practical applications of the research findings, probing for advice on supporting crucial but underrecognized dependencies within software ecosystems. Eva addresses future research directions, including improving ecosystem matching algorithms for better accuracy in linking software mentions to the correct ecosystems. [00:22:50] Eva suggests expanding the research to cover more domains beyond biomedicine, considering different software needs across various scientific disciplines. Boris discusses the potential for targeted interventions to support underrecognized contributors in the scientific software community aiming to enhance their prestige. [00:27:22] Richard asks how the research team plans to map dependencies to individual contributors and track their motivations. Boris responds that while they have gathered substantial data from sources like GitHub logs, publishing this information poses ethical challenges due to privacy concerns. [00:28:45] Eva discusses her work on linking GitHub profiles to academic authors using ORCID identifiers to better track contributions to scientific software. [00:31:42] Richard brings up the broader impacts of their research, questioning whether their study on software packages centrality within the scientific community is unique or if there are similar studies at this scale. Eva acknowledges the need for more comprehensive studies and cites a previous study from 2015 that analyzed developer networks on GitHub. Boris adds that while there is extensive literature on scientific citation networks, the study of dependencies is less explored. [00:34:38] Find out where you can follow Boris and Eva's work and social medias online. Spotlight [00:37:06] Richard's spotlight is Deirdre Madeleine Smith. [00:37:29] Eva's spotlight is Talley Lambert. [00:38:02] Boris's spotlight is the CZI Collaborators. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter (https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) SustainOSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Open Collective-SustainOSS (Contribute) (https://opencollective.com/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Socials (https://www.burntfen.com/2023-05-30/socials) Eva Maxfield Brown X/Twitter (https://x.com/evamaxfieldb) Eva Maxfield Brown Website (https://evamaxfield.github.io/) Eva Maxfield Brown GitHub (https://github.com/evamaxfield) Boris Veytsman X/Twitter (https://x.com/BorisVeytsman?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Boris Veytsman Mastodon (https://sfba.social/@borisveytsman) Boris Veytsman LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/boris-veytsman-50a1162/) Chan Zuckerberg Initiative (CTI) (https://chanzuckerberg.com/) “Biomedical Open Source Software : Crucial Packages and Hidden Heroes” (arXiv) (https://arxiv.org/pdf/2404.06672) “A large dataset of software mentions in the biomedical literature” (arXiv) (https://arxiv.org/abs/2209.00693) xkcd Dependency comic 2347 (https://xkcd.com/2347/) Dataset Artefacts are the Hidden Drivers of the Declining Disruptiveness in Science (arXiv) (https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.14583) Directed acyclic graph (DAG) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed_acyclic_graph) Katz centrality (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katz_centrality) Sustain Podcast-Episode 136: Daniel S. 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Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 85 In this episode of CHAOSScast, host Alice Sowerby is joined with Dawn Foster and special guest, Luis Cañas-Díaz from Bitergia. Today, they delve into the Practitioner Guide series created by CHAOSS, particularly focusing on the Responsiveness Guide authored by Dawn. The conversation highlights the challenges people face in interpreting data and metrics within their projects and how the guides aim to provide actionable insights for improvement. Additionally, they touch on the potential risks of misinterpreting metrics and stress the importance of context and direct involvement from project teams to effectively address responsiveness issues. The episode also covers future directions for the guide series and ways the community can contribute and provide feedback. Press download to hear more! [00:02:08] Alice asks Dawn to explain the newly launched Practitioner Guide series by CHAOSS. Dawn elaborates on the Practitioner Guides, addressing the community's struggle with data interpretation and the initiative to provide guidance on metric usage for project improvements. [00:05:02] Luis comments on the utility of the Practitioner Guides, emphasizing the need to focus on goals over metrics to avoid data overload. [00:05:54] Dawn mentions the feedback received on the guides, particularly from Luis and others in various OSPO working groups. [00:07:11] The discussion shifts to the Guide on Responsiveness, with Dawn identifying key metrics like time to first response, time to close, and change request closure ratio. [00:08:37] Luis shares the significance of responsiveness metrics in community growth and ensuring fair treatment across organizational contributors. [00:09:54] Dawn details how the guides suggest making improvements, noting the importance of understanding context, such as seasonal variations or event-related disruptions, in evaluating responsiveness. [00:11:01] We hear some practical tips from Dawn on improving responsiveness, like using templates for contributions to reduce maintainers' review times and discussing time allocation with maintainers to offload non-critical tasks. [00:13:47] Luis emphasizes that metrics highlight things that are happening but require deeper investigation to understand the underlying issues. [00:15:05] Dawn discusses strategies to improve project responsiveness, such as recruiting more maintainers and contributors. She warns against simply pressuring existing maintainers to increase responsiveness, which can lead to burnout and does not address the root cause of delays. [00:17:33] Luis shares experiences from conversations with managers about the pressures of responding to community needs. He warns against using metrics to measure productivity, as it can lead people to manipulate their behavior to look good on metrics rather than genuinely improving their work. Also, he tells us about a book he read that he liked called, “The Tyranny of Metrics.” [00:19:42] Luis explains the critical role of responsiveness on onboarding and retaining new community members, emphasizing the importance of prompt feedback to make newcomers feel valued. [00:20:26] Dawn stresses the impact of responsiveness on new contributors, noting that delays or lack of feedback can permanently discourage them from participating in the project. [00:21:38] Dawn advises patience and persistence in improving responsiveness, emphasizing that it is a long-term effort. [00:22:50] Alice inquires about the future directions for the Practitioner Guides series, and Dawn reveals plans for additional guides on topics like software development practices and community activity and encourages community involvement in creating new guidelines. She discusses possibilities for customizing guides for specific organizational needs, such as what Comcast has done. [00:26:32] Luis suggests exploring educational courses or short video series to help newcomers understand and use metrics effectively in open source projects, emphasizing the long-term value of documentation in retaining knowledge. [00:27:38] Dawn details ways listeners can engage with the CHAOSS community. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: * [00:29:06] Luis's pick is having the opportunity to collaborate with the Mozilla Foundation again since they were involved in the creation of the “Mozilla and the Rebel Alliance” report years ago. * [00:29:54] Dawn's pick is The Practitioner Guides. * [00:31:06] Alice's pick is coffee ice cream. Panelists: Alice Sowerby Dawn Foster Guest: Luis Cañas-Díaz Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Georg Link Website (https://georg.link/) Dawn Foster X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn?lang=en) Alice Sowerby Website (https://www.rosmarin.co.uk/) Luis Cañas-Díaz Website (https://sanacl.wordpress.com/) Luis Cañas-Díaz LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/canasdiaz/) About the CHAOSS Practitioner Guides (https://chaoss.community/about-chaoss-practitioner-guides/) Unlocking Insights: Practitioner Guides for Interpreting Open Source Metrics (https://chaoss.community/unlocking-insights-practitioner-guides-for-interpreting-open-source-metrics/) Practitioner Guide: Responsiveness (https://chaoss.community/practitioner-guide-responsiveness/) The Tyranny of Metrics by Jerry Z. Muller (https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691174952/the-tyranny-of-metrics) CHAOSS Data Science Working Group-GitHub (https://github.com/chaoss/wg-data-science) Mozilla & the Rebel Alliance (https://report.mozilla.community/) Mozilla (https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/) Special Guest: Luis Cañas-Díaz.

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 84 In this episode of CHAOSScast, Dawn Foster, Matt Germonprez, Alice Sowerby, and guest Gary White, Principal Engineer at Verizon's OSPO office, delve into the world of viability metrics models developed for assessing the risks associated with using open source software components. Gary explains the creation process of these models, their application within Verizon for software evaluation, and the significance of engaging with the open source community to enhance project viability. The conversations also explore the challenges and considerations in deploying these metrics within organizations, emphasizing the blend of policy enforcement and cultural influence to manage open source software dependencies effectively. Press download now to hear more! [00:02:30] Dawn asks Gary to elaborate on the choice of Verizon for the viability metrics models. He explains the creation of the first four metrics models for assessing risks in open source software components, and the development of a fifth model to simplify the original four. Also, he explains the importance of being quantitative about software library choices, influenced by a research paper from Carnegie Mellon and existing CHAOSS metrics. [00:05:16] Gary mentions using Augur for metrics collection at Verizon and the benefits of tracking with CHAOSS tools. [00:06:27] Matt asks Gary to provide an example of a metric used in the governance model, and he talks about the Libyears metric, which helps understand the total years behind all dependencies of a component, reflecting the risk associated with aging dependencies. [00:07:50] Alice wonders about the “happy region” for the Libyears metric and its implications on risk assessment. [00:09:25] Dawn asks Gary to discuss how these metrics are utilized at Verizon. He describes using these metrics to evaluate the viability of software at Verizon, including different use cases and dependency risks. [00:11:39] Alice explores how Gary considers the context in which components are used when calculating risk. [00:13:24] Matt asks about the process of engaging with the metrics models within the organization. Gary explains that the approach depends on several factors such as severity of finding, buy-in from the organization, and the organizational structure of the OSPO, and details the use of specific resources like the “endoflife.date.” [00:18:07] Gary outlines how Verizon integrates risk management frameworks with organizational tools like dashboards to disseminate collected data and foster buy-in for automated systems. [00:21:16] Alice asks Gary for advice on engaging with open source communities when viability metrics indicate potential issues. Gary highlights the importance of community and governance metrics in driving organizational support for critical open source projects. [00:22:43] Gary shares his experience in the CHAOSS group, emphasizing the value of diverse opinions in developing and validating viability metrics models. [00:24:33] Dawn highlights the significance of the discussions on viability and risk in the OSPO working group, emphasizing how these are critical concerns for OSPO leaders. [00:25:24] Dawn inquires about how Verizon uses CHAOSS metrics beyond viability assessment, particularly in open source management. Gary discusses leveraging CHAOSS metrics across various teams to judge component use and risk profiles and explains Verizon's approach to using metrics involving both an educational component and a policy component. [00:27:33] Gary talks about focusing on the ongoing efforts to integrate and optimize the Augur system at Verizon, acknowledging Sean Goggins for his assistance, and expresses a desire to contribute back to the community, and exploring new metrics to trace and predict significant events in the open source ecosystem. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:30:29] Dawn's pick is going on an Afternoon Tea London Sightseeing Bus Tour with friends. [00:31:07] Matt's pick is reflecting on the value of attending conferences and meeting people. [00:32:10] Gary's pick is the support from the Augur team, attending conferences, and meeting people. [00:32:51] Alice's pick is attending OSSNA in Seattle. Panelists: Dawn Foster Matt Germonprez Alice Sowerby Guest: Gary White Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Dawn Foster X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn?lang=en) Matt Germonprez X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/germ) Alice Sowerby LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/alice-sowerby-ba692a13/?originalSubdomain=uk) Gary White LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/garywhitejr/) “We Feel Like We're Winging It”: A Study on Navigating Open Source Dependency Abandonment (ACM Digital Library) (https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3611643.3616293) Libyears (https://chaoss.community/kb/metric-libyears/) endoflife.date (https://endoflife.date/) CHAOSS-Topics: All Metrics Models (https://chaoss.community/kbtopic/all-metrics-models/) CHAOSS-OSS Project Viability Starter (https://chaoss.community/kb/metrics-model-project-viability-starter/) CHAOSS-Augur NEW Release v0.63.3 (https://github.com/chaoss/augur) Classic Afternoon Tea London Sightseeing Bus Tour (https://b-bakery.com/london/bus-tours/afternoon-tea- bus-london) Open Source Summit North America 2024 Seattle (https://events.linuxfoundation.org/open-source-summit-north-america/) Special Guest: Gary White.

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 83 In this episode of CHAOSScast, Georg and Dawn chat with guest Edward Vielmetti, Developer Partner Manager at Equinix, where he oversees the Open Source Partner Program. Today, they delve into the significance of measuring open source community health using CHAOSS metrics. Edward discusses the importance of providing infrastructure support to open source projects and how Equinix uses CHAOSS metrics to evaluate project health and manage resources efficiently. The discussion also covers the challenges of maintaining open source project health, including governance, code quality, and resources, with insights into predictive metrics and the impact of corporate involvement in open source communities. Press download now to hear more! [00:01:36] Edward introduces himself, tells us what he does, provides a background on Equinix, and talks about their dedicated cloud offering and support for open source projects. He discusses the absence of formal CHAOSS metrics at Equinix but mentions they compare them with internal considerations to ensure project health. [00:06:24] Edward talks about external factors like internal conflicts or external shocks to the system and the importance of being a stabilizing force. [00:9:59] Georg outlines three categories of project health: community activity, code quality, and resources. [00:10:58] Edward talks about using spend as a top-line metric for resource adequacy and the importance of rapid build and test cycles for software projects. [00:15:33] Georg acknowledges Edward's comprehensive view, noting the need for specialized infrastructure beyond what hosting platforms like GitHub and GitLab offer. Edward emphasizes that developing certain kinds of software requires direct access to hardware rather than virtualized environments. [00:19:06] Dawn brings the conversation back to CHAOSS, mentioning context working groups and Edward's active participation in the corporate OSPO working group. Edward talks about the challenges at Equinix in forming a formal OSPO and the value of sharing and learning from peers through CHAOSS. [00:22:33] Dawn appreciated the diversity of companies in the CHAOSS OSPO working group and the broad exchange of ideas. Edward reflects on his long history with open source, noting the evolution and professionalization of the industry. [00:25:32] Georg asks about the future of open source and CHAOSS's potential role, and Edward mentions the trend of open source projects changing control for financial gain and discusses how CHAOSS could help predict or quickly identify such changes. He proposes the collection of certain metrics, such as the number of legal notices a project receives, as indicators of the project's environment. [00:29:44] Edward shares a story, without taking sides, about Terraform relicensing by HashiCorp and the subsequent forks of Terraform, focusing on the OpenTofu fork and the licensing issues around patching from differently licensed software. [00:34:05] Georg discusses observing early risk indicators in projects, such as when a single company's influence increases, potentially raising the risk of unilateral changes, and he expresses a desire for a predictive model for open source project trajectories. [00:35:44] Dawn calls such predictive modeling difficult due to the rarity of events and stresses the importance of community participation for early detection of issues. [00:37:53] Georg brings up the Linkerd project's approach to engaging with the vendor ecosystem and the changes in their release strategy to encourage commercial support, and Edward compares this with CentOS's transition to CentOS Stream. [00:41:48] Georg reiterates the value of participation in open source to be aware of and potentially influence project developments. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:42:29] Georg's pick is finding people that have something you need, and he found someone who was giving away dirt for free that he needed for his garden. [00:43:29] Dawn's pick is Barefoot Day - A family holiday every April 9. [00:44:34] Edward's pick is participating in Ann Arbor's “Visit Every Park” challenge and keeping a log of all his visits. Panelists: Georg Link Dawn Foster Guest: Edward Vielmetti Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Georg Link Website (https://georg.link/) Dawn Foster X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn?lang=en) Edward Vielmetti Blog (https://vielmetti.typepad.com/w8emv/) Edward Vielmetti Mastodon (https://hachyderm.io/@w8emv) Edward Vielmetti LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/edwardvielmetti/) Equinix (https://www.equinix.com/) OpenTofu Project X/Twitter re: OpenTofu's legal notice from HashiCorp (https://twitter.com/OpenTofuOrg/status/1776398008558493991) xkcd-Compiling (https://xkcd.com/303/) XZ Utils backdoor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XZ_Utils_backdoor) UNIX System Laboratories, Inc v. Berkeley Software Design, Inc. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XZ_Utils_backdoor) “Betrayal is the Internet's business model”-Michael Lucas Website (https://mwl.io/archives/23490) Special Guest: Ed Vielmetti.

In this episode of CHAOSScast, host Dawn Foster brings together Matt Germonprez, Brian Proffitt, and Ashley Wolf to discuss the implications of Artificial Intelligence (AI) on Open Source Program Offices (OSPOs), including policy considerations, the potential for AI-driven contributions to create workload for maintainers, and the quality of contributions. They also touch on the use of AI internally within companies versus contributing back to the open source community, the importance of distinguishing between human and AI contributions, and the potential benefits and challenges AI introduces to open source project health and community metrics. The conversation strikes a balance between optimism for AI's benefits and caution for its governance, leaving us to ponder the future of open source in an AI-integrated world. Press download to hear more! [00:03:20] The discussion begins on the role of OSPOs in AI policy making, and Ashley emphasizes the importance of OSPOs in providing guidance on generative AI tools usage and contributions within their organizations. [00:05:17] Brian observes a conservative reflex towards AI in OSPOs, noting issues around copyright, trust, and the status of AI as not truly open source. [00:07:10] Matt inquires about aligning different policies from various organizations, like GitHub and Red Hat, with those from the Linux Foundation and Apache Software Foundation regarding generative AI. Brian speaks about Red Hat's approach to first figure out their policies before seeking alignment with others. [00:06:45] Ashley appreciates the publicly available AI policies from the Apache and Linux Foundations, noting that GitHub's policies have been informed by long-term thinking and community feedback. [00:10:34] Dawn asks about potential internal conflict for GitHub employees given different AI policies at GitHub and other organizations like CNCF and Apache. [00:12:32] Ashley and Brian talk about what they see as the benefits of AI for OSPOs, and how AI can help scale OSPO support and act as a sounding board for new ideas. [00:15:32] Matt proposes a scenario where generative AI might increase individual contributions to high-profile projects like Kubernetes for personal gain, potentially burdening maintainers. [00:18:45] Dawn mentions Daniel Stenberg of cURL who has seen an influx of low-quality issues from AI models, Ashley points out the problem of “drive-by-contributions” and spam, particularly during events like Hacktoberfest, and emphasizes the role of OSPOs in education about responsible contributions, and Brian discusses potential issues with AI contributions leading to homogenization and the increased risk of widespread security vulnerabilities. [00:22:33] Matt raises another scenario questioning if companies might use generative AI internally as an alternative to open source for smaller issues without contributing back to the community. Ashley states 92% of developers are using AI code generation tools and cautions against creating code in a vacuum, and Brian talks about Red Hat's approach. [00:27:18] Dawn discusses the impact of generative AI on companies that are primarily consumers of open source, rarely contributing back, questioning if they might start using AI to make changes instead of contributing. Brian suggests there might be a mixed impact and Ashley optimistically hopes the time saved using AI tools will be redirected to contribute back to open source. [00:29:49] Brian discusses the state of open source AI, highlighting the lack of a formal definition and ongoing efforts by the OSI and other groups to establish one, and recommends a fascinating article he read from Knowing Machines. Ashley emphasizes the importance of not misusing the term open source for AI until a formal definition is established. [00:32:42] Matt inquires how metrics can aid in adapting to AI trends in open source, like detecting AI-generated contributions. Brian talks about using signals like time zones to differentiate between corporate contributors and hobbyists, and the potential for tagging contributions from AI for clarity. [00:35:13] Ashley considers the human aspect of maintainers dealing with an influx of AI-generated contributions and what metrics could indicate a need for additional support, and she mentions the concept of the “Nebraska effect.” Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:36:59] Dawn's pick is seeing friends over the 4 day UK Easter holiday, playing board games, eating, and hanging out. [00:37:21] Brian's pick is traveling back home to Indiana to see his first ever total solar eclipse and bringing his NC friends along. [00:38:03] Matt's pick is reconnecting with colleagues this semester and doing talks at GSU and Syracuse. [00:38:40] Ashley's pick is going to the local nursery and acquiring some blueberry plants. Panelists: Dawn Foster Matt Germonprez Brian Proffitt Ashley Wolf Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Georg Link Website (https://georg.link/) Dawn Foster X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn?lang=en) Matt Germonprez X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/germ) Brian Proffitt X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/TheTechScribe) Ashley Wolf X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/Meta_Ashley) Ashley Wolf LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleywolf/) AI-generated bug reports are becoming a big waste of time for developers (Techspot) (https://www.techspot.com/news/101440-ai-generated-bug-reports-waste-time-developers.html) Models All The Way Down- A Knowing Machines Project (https://knowingmachines.org/models-all-the-way) xkcd-Dependency (https://xkcd.com/2347/) Special Guest: Ashley Wolf.

Dawn Foster, Director of Data Science for the CHAOSS Project, joins us to discuss the pressing issue of open source project health and sustainability.  Dawn offers a look into the CHAOSS Project, aimed at improving open source project health through analytics and metrics. She emphasizes the importance of community participation, the challenges of maintaining project health, especially in the face of single organization dominance, and the issue of contributor sustainability. Dawn also touches on her academic research on the Linux kernel, exploring communication and collaboration within the project. The conversation underlines the significance of strategic contributor engagement from businesses to ensure the longevity and success of open source projects that are vital to their operations. 00:00 Introduction 00:17 Open Source and Data Science 02:25 the CHAOSS Project 03:22 Identifying and Addressing Project Health Red Flags 05:33 The Elephant Problem: Navigating Single Organization Dominance 09:32 CHAOSS Project Tools: Augur and GrimoireLab 12:56 The Importance of Data and Privacy in Open Source Communities 13:55 Insights from Research on the Linux Kernel Collaboration 21:24 The Future of Open Source: Sustainability and Viability 27:47 Closing Thoughts on Contributor Sustainability Resources: Home - CHAOSS Guest: Dr. Dawn Foster works as the Director of Data Science for CHAOSS where she is also a board member / maintainer. She is co-chair of CNCF TAG Contributor Strategy and an OpenUK board member. She has 20+ years of experience at companies like VMware and Intel with expertise in community, strategy, governance, metrics, and more. She has spoken at over 100 industry events and has a BS in computer science, an MBA, and a PhD. In her spare time she enjoys reading science fiction, running, and traveling.

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 80 On today's episode of CHAOSScast, we focus on the experiences and initiatives of the Open Source Program Office at the U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS). Host Dawn Foster is joined by Sean Goggins along with guests, Remy DeCausemaker, Natalia Luzuriaga, Isaac Milarsky, and Aayat Ali, all from various backgrounds within the CMS, who share insights into their efforts in maintaining and promoting an open source culture within federal services. Key discussion points include the launch of the CMS's first open source program office, the development of a maturity model framework to evaluate open source projects, the creation of tools such as Repo Scaffolder and Duplifier to support open source practices, and efforts towards open source software security. This episode emphasizes the distinct aspects of opens source work in government settings compared to the private sector and highlights upcoming presentations at conferences. Download this episode now to hear more! [00:02:21] Dawn asks about the team's work at the U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. We start with Remy, who explains the launch of the first open source program office at a federal agency in the U.S. and details CMS's mission to improve healthcare experience for over 150 million people and the role of the digital service within CMS. [00:05:36] Natalia discusses the maturity model framework developed to assess the open source maturity level of projects. She describes a “Repo Scaffolder” tool created in collaboration with the U.S. digital response to help projects align with the majority model, and she speaks about additional features for public repositories to aid in development. [00:10:51] Isaac takes over, explaining how they use Auger metrics and “Nadia labeling” to categorize projects and encourage the adoption of their maturity model. He details a metrics website that provides visual representations of project health and activity and introduces “Duplifier,” a deduplication tool for healthcare data, which uses an open source library called Splink. [00:15:14] Sean inquires how they actualize their user needs in metrics visualization and about the process that informs the creation of these visual metrics. Isaac addresses front-end design aspects of metric visualization and the importance of making the metrics understandable at a glance. Natalia emphasizing designing for both technical and non-technical stakeholders, ensuring metrics are clear and understandable. [00:17:44] Aayat discusses her role in strategy development and the creation of a CMS OSPO guide. She emphasizes advocacy withing CMS for open source and plans to conduct workshops and usability testing to determine which metrics are most valuable to stakeholders. [00:19:23] Remy talks about consulting with the chief information security officer and the chief information officer for internal metric priorities and engaging with an external OSPO metrics working group convened by CHAOSS for broader insights. [00:20:47] Dawn asks Remy for more details on the differences with government engagement in open source to the corporate environments. Remy describes the early journey of OSPOs at the federal level and contrasts it with his private sector experience. [00:25:18] Sean asks about what success would look like a year from now for the OSPO group's work. Remy acknowledges the limited four-year term for digital service members, emphasizing the urgency to execute and make an impact within the next year. He highlights the transformative impact of Isaac and Natalia's entrance into the program and the successful shipping of the metrics website, a deduplication tool, and other repositories. [00:27:50] Isaac envisions success as propagating maturity models and open source standards throughout the government, demonstrating value to stakeholders, and growing the OSPO. Natalia is excited to share their foundational OSPO work and contribute to open data initiatives and mentions speaking this year at the Linux Foundation Open Source Summit and PyCon about their work. Aayat defines success as achieving goals in source code stewardship, understanding the maturity and content of repositories, and supporting the team in communicating the value of open source. [00:29:53] Remy brings up Nadia Eghbal giving her credit for influential work and mentioning a team book club inspired by her writings. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:32:39] Dawn's pick is Beat Saber for indoor workouts. [00:33:05] Sean's pick is the HBO max show, True Detective, Season 4. [00:33:22] Remy's pick is the BRAVO Hackathon Series he recently attended. [00:38:14] Natalia's pick is visiting her local library and getting a library card. [00:38:39] Aayat's pick is a good book she read called, “Demon Copperhead.” [00:39:36] Isaac's pick is enjoying the nice weather and getting outside. **Panelists: Dawn Foster Sean Goggins Guests: Remy DeCausemaker Natalia Luzuriaga Isaac Milarsky Aayat Ali Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Georg Link Website (https://georg.link/) Dawn Foster X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn?lang=en) Sean Goggins X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/sociallycompute) Remy DeCausemaker X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/Remy_D) Remy DeCausemaker LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/decause/) Natalia Luzuriaga LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalialuzuriaga/) Isaac Milarsky LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/isaac-milarsky-24471b1b6) Aayat Ali LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/aayat-ali-a5850134/) Aayat Ali Website (https://aayatali.com/) CMS.gov (https://moj-analytical-services.github.io/splink/index.html) Digital Service at CMS (DSACMS)-GitHub (https://github.com/dsacms) Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services-GitHub (https://github.com/CMSgov) United States Digital Corps (https://digitalcorps.gsa.gov/) Splink (https://moj-analytical-services.github.io/splink/index.html) Repo Scaffolder-GitHub (https://moj-analytical-services.github.io/splink/index.html) Metrics Dashboard for CMS Open Source Projects (https://github.com/dsacms/metrics) Repo Metrics Website (https://dsacms.github.io/metrics/) github-ospo (https://github.com/github/github-ospo) The Linux Foundation Open Source Summit-April 16-18, 2024, Seattle, WA (https://events.linuxfoundation.org/open-source-summit-north-america/) PyCon US-May 15-23, 2024-Pittsburgh, PA (https://us.pycon.org/2024/) Nadia Asparouhova (aka Nadia Eghbal) Website (https://nadia.xyz/) Working in Public: The Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software by Nadia Eghbal (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578675862/) Roads and Bridges: The Unseen Labor Behind Our Digital Infrastructure by Nadia Eghbal (https://www.fordfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/roads-and-bridges-the-unseen-labor-behind-our-digital-infrastructure.pdf) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 77: Open Source Metrics at Microsoft (https://podcast.chaoss.community/77) Beat Saber (https://beatsaber.com/) True Detective-Season 4 (HBO max) (https://www.hbo.com/true-detective/season-4) BRAVO Hackathon Series (https://bravo.il2.afwerx.dso.mil/about) Demon Copperhead by Barbara Kingsolver (https://www.amazon.com/Demon-Copperhead-Novel-Barbara-Kingsolver/dp/0063251922) Special Guests: Aayat Ali, Isaac Milarsky, Natalia Luzuriaga, and Remy DeCausemaker.

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! In this collaboration between the CHAOSS Cast and Mechanical Ink podcasts, hosts Dawn Foster and Schalk Neethling are joined by guests Daniel Izquierdo and Sean Goggins to discuss open source community health metrics. The focus is on providing an overview of two projects under the CHAOSS (Community Health Analytics for Open Source Software) umbrella - GrimoireLab and Augur. These open source tools gather data from diverse sources and analyze it to provide insights into open-source community health. The episode brings together two fascinating open source projects - GrimoireLab and Augur - that aim to provide insights into the health of open-source software communities. By gathering data from various platforms and channels, and analyzing contributor activity, issues, pull requests, and conversations, these projects shine a light on the inner workings of open-source projects. You have Sean Goggins, a university researcher who co-created Augur to dissect community interactions at scale. Then you have Daniel Izquierdo whose startup Bitergia built GrimoireLab to offer open source analytics as a service. Both share insightful stories on the evolving landscape of inner source and metrics-driven community management. It's a great listen for anyone involved in running open-source projects or communities. Beyond project leads, the conversation also touches on why understanding community health is vital today for enterprise adopters to track their dependencies and influence. And as Dawn Foster from CHAOSS chips in, you get an important reminder to not get carried away chasing tools without clarity on what specific questions you want answered from the underlying data. Overall, a stimulating mix of history and future direction on using metrics to guide open-source communities toward greater sustainability. Guests - Daniel Izquierdo: Co-founder and CEO of Bitergia, co-founder of CHAOSS, President of InnerSource Commons - Sean Goggins: Professor of Computer Science at the University of Missouri, maintainer of Augur software package in CHAOSS Key Topics Discussed - Origins and goals of the CHAOSS project - Overview of GrimoireLab - Overview of Augur - Supporting analysis across diverse data sources - Focus areas and roadmaps - Getting involved in the projects Links Mentioned - CHAOSS (chaoss.community) - GrimoireLab (grimoirelab.github.io) - Augur (augurlabs.io) - Cauldron instance (cauldron.io) - Public Augur instance (metrics.chaoss.io) - OSS Compass (oss.compass.community) Special Guest: Schalk Neethling.

I recently had the pleasure of chatting with Dawn Foster, owner of D Foster Marketing Consulting, on my podcast Hourly to Exit.

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 77 In this episode of CHAOSScast, host Dawn Foster has a compelling discussion with three guests from Microsoft's Open Source Programs Office: Emma Irwin, James Siri, and Justin Gosses. The conversation includes how Microsoft measures the health of open source communities, their experiences with the CHAOSS Community, and the critical role of open source within the organization. Topics such as use of metrics, tackling security issues within scaling, and the future of metrics within the company were discussed. Also, they talk about the value of open source contributions within the business, the role of internal communities, and how they track and improve processes at Microsoft, emphasizing the importance of open source impact both externally and internally. Download this episode now to hear more! [00:00:24] Emma, James, and Justin share their backgrounds with us. [00:01:53] Emma discusses Microsoft's multi-tier approach to metrics, focusing on maintainers' value to products and communities, component intelligence, and engineering standards on GitHub. [00:04:06] James elaborates on his focus on GitHub metrics, the development of policy and tooling for security, and simplifying developers' workflow. [00:04:51] Justin categorizes metrics into those for maintainers, for management, and for developers making decisions on dependencies. He talks about challenges in managing the scale of data from 13,000 repositories and the importance of security metrics. [00:05:37] Emma discusses an experiment with the OpenSSF scorecard for repository security and the effort to motivate improvements in this area. She highlights the challenges of instilling these practices as part of the culture. [00:07:30] Justin sees opportunities to combine CHAOSS metrics with secure supply chain efforts, aiming to aid developers in making informed decisions about dependencies and warning them of potential risks. [00:09:11] Dawn asks about the challenges of scaling metrics and managing the vast number of dependencies. Justin responds by describing an experience focused on aiding developers at the start of a project, helping them make data-informed choices about a few key dependencies. [00:12:51] Emma adds that from the Open Source Programs Office (OSPO) perspective, having a dashboard to direct inquiries is very helpful. James mentions that the dashboard also provides an easy way to surface security guidance. [00:13:27] The conversation shifts to Dawn asking about the business aspect of open source within Microsoft and how they measure this impact. James responds that open source is integral to Microsoft's software development approach, aiming to build an internal community and avoid duplicating solutions. He also discusses the importance of Software Bill of Materials (SBOMs) for security and supply chain transparency. [00:16:00] Emma elaborates on the internal value of external open source contributions, sharing how they help maintainers demonstrate the business impact during reviews. [00:17:14] Dawn inquiries about the future direction for Microsoft regarding metrics and measurement. Justin touches on exploring the area of funding, aiming to improve conversations about financial contributions to open source projects and achieving better return on investment. [00:19:10] James mentions that their package selection work for developers has been inspired by CHAOSS metrics, suggesting that these insights be shared in OSPO working group meetings. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:19:34] Dawn's pick is getting her permanent residency approval allowing her to live in the UK without any restrictions. [00:19:59] Emma's pick is taking a break over the holidays and being outside as much as possible. [00:20:33] Justin's pick is a book he enjoyed reading called, Elinor Ostrom: An Intellectual Biography. [00:21:19] James's pick is reconnecting with art and music as an avenue for self-expression. *Panelist: * Dawn Foster Guests: Emma Irwin Justin Gosses James Siri Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Georg Link Website (https://georg.link/) Dawn Foster X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn?lang=en) Emma Irwin LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/emmamirwin/) James Siri LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-siri/) James Gosses LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/justingosses/) Justin Gosses Website (https://justingosses.com/) OSS Project Viability: Compliance + Security (https://chaoss.community/kb/metrics-model-oss-project-viability-compliance-security/) Elinor Ostrom: An Intellectual Biography by Vlad Tarko (https://books.google.com/books/about/Elinor_Ostrom.html?id=01TysgEACAAJ) Special Guests: Emma Irwin, James Siri, and Justin Gosses.

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 75 In this episode, host Georg is joined by CHAOSS members, Sean, Nicole, Matt, Elizabeth, and Dawn. Today, they delve into the CHAOSS Project's goals for 2024 and beyond, highlighting efforts to establish CHAOSS metrics and models as formal international standards. The conversation covers their potential ISO standardization, strategies to grow the user community, the importance of increasing collaboration within the CHAOSS contributor community, and enhancing software contributions, acknowledging the need to value non-code contributions. They also touch on the importance of community engagement and the utility of hosted software solutions to make CHAOSS tools more accessible. We are all excited to see where this new journey takes us, and we would love for you to be a part of this journey. Hit download now to hear more! [00:02:57] The first goal discussed is to establish CHAOSS metrics and metrics models as formal international standards. Matt explains the intention to turn CHAOSS metrics into ISO standards and the early stages of this process with the Joint Development Foundation. [00:04:37] Dawn adds that having ISO standards will lend more legitimacy and visibility to their metrics. Georg differentiates between de facto standards and the goal of achieving de jure international standards. [00:06:42] The second goal is creating outreach processes and plans to promote CHAOSS and grow the user community. Nicole talks about increasing awareness and visibility of the CHAOSS Project, developing key messages, a marketing plan, and a roadmap for engagement. [00:10:20] Sean emphasizes the importance of deliberate and consistent communication. Elizabeth looks forward to sharing their outreach strategies with other open source communities. Dawn discusses focusing on user communities to distinguish them from contributors and to support user growth. [00:12:42] The third goal is to increase collaboration within the CHAOSS contributor community, with Elizabeth noting the importance of focusing on both user and contributor communities. She discusses different ways to enhance software contributions within CHAOSS and highlights the challenge of recognizing and appreciating non-code contributions, which will be a focus area for improvement. [00:14:37] Elizabeth talks about strengthening visibility and explicit partnerships with other communities and organizations, attending more events to evangelize CHAOSS and attract new community members, encouraging blogging among community members to support outreach and contribution growth, with a shoutout to Gary White's work at Verizon, and mentorship programs within CHAOSS. [00:16:41] Sean agrees on the interconnected nature of efforts to foster community engagement. Elizabeth notes that non-code contributors like project managers and community managers bring valuable skills to the community, Nicole echoes the importance of non-code contributions, Matt reflects on the complexity of community engagement. [00:20:00] Georg appreciates the ‘Chaotic of the Week' feature for its community-building benefits. He then brings up the topic of the fourth goal which is to provide hosted software as a service for consuming CHAOSS metrics, and Sean discusses the goal of providing hosted solutions to facilitate access to CHAOSS software and metrics, mentioning a survey that highlighted installation difficulties, and highlights the OSS Compass Project. [00:23:50] Dawn supports the idea of SaaS solutions for the CHAOSS software to allow less technical users to trial and decide on the best fit for their needs, Matt highlights the benefit of SaaS solutions in reducing resource constraints for different types of organizations engaging with CHAOSS metrics and models, and Georg discusses the synergy between providing hosted SaaS offerings and creating outreach processes to grow the CHAOSS user community. [00:25:15] Georg brings up the fifth goal and that is how do we provide guidance to use it and the goal is to use driven data insights to provide recommendations that help people generate new insights for their communities. Dawn shares her thoughts and mentions collaborating with various context working groups to understand their unique needs and to help interpret metric accordingly, and the creation of ‘insight guides.' [00:32:38] Dawn mentions the formation of a new data science working group with plans to involve the community in writing insight guides. Georg shares insights from a study on project health metrics and their correlation with usage data. [00:34:42] The sixth goal is discussed to evolve data policies to accommodate emerging technologies like artificial intelligence, recognizing that this an area not yet fully addressed, but is important for the future. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:37:10] Georg's pick is a research project he did with Sophia Vargas on metrics. [00:37:42] Dawn's pick is an article published in ACM, called “Beyond the Repository.” [00:38:28] Nicole's pick is the book, Shoe Dog by Phil Knight. [00:39:29] Sean's pick is the book, Becoming Human: A Theory of Ontogeny by Michael Tomasello. [00:40:15] Matt's pick is his family coming home for the holidays. [00:40:41] Elizabeth's pick is reading about this fascinating expedition into the Cyclops Mountains. Panelists: Georg Link Dawn Foster Matt Germonprez Sean Goggins Nicole Huesman Elizabeth Barron Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Georg Link Website (https://georg.link/) Dawn Foster X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn) Matt Germonprez (https://www.unomaha.edu/college-of-information-science-and-technology/about/faculty-staff/matt-germonprez.php) Sean Goggins (https://www.seangoggins.net/) Nicole Huesman X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/uoduckswtd) Elizabeth Barron X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/elizabethn) Joint Development Foundation (https://jointdevelopment.org/) Metrics for OSS Viability by Gary White-CHAOSS Blog (https://chaoss.community/author/garywhite/) CHAOSSweekly (https://chaoss.community/chaossweekly-dec-04-08-2023/) Augur NEW Release v0.60.2 (https://github.com/chaoss/augur) Augur Documentation (https://oss-augur.readthedocs.io/en/main/) OSS Compass Project Information-GitHub (https://github.com/oss-compass/compass-projects-information) “Beyond the Repository” written by Amanda Casari, Julia Ferraioli, and Juniper Lovato (https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3595879) Shoe Dog by Phil Night (https://www.amazon.com/Shoe-Dog-Memoir-Creator-Nike-ebook/dp/B0176M1A44) [Becoming Human: A Theory of Ontogeny by Michael Tomasello](https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Human-Ontogeny-Michael-Tomasello/dp/0674248287/ref=ascdf0674248287/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=560440526833&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7443607677783591544&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9010778&hvtargid=pla-917360857147&psc=1&mcid=467c9a8960753e1993ff8ab6ba397646&gclid=Cj0KCQiA4NWrBhD-ARIsAFCKwWvOoZUOZjxfkIWB-bYvoppVmHMZFXFSvh-PSKvYKp2RjwXE4hQN60waArfvEALwwcB)_ Expedition Cyclops (https://www.expeditioncyclops.org/)

CHAOSScast – Episode 76 In this episode of CHAOSScast, Georg and Dawn have a conversation with guest, Anita Ihuman, about the vital subject of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) metrics within open source communities. Anita, who's a developer advocate and technical writer, shares her research about how DEI metrics are used and their effectiveness. They discuss the importance of documenting DEI efforts, reflect on the challenges faced by communities in improving inclusivity, and share success stories of events that have leveraged CHAOSS DEI badges to enhance participant experiences. Also, Anita encourages everyone to explore the comprehensive research findings for further insights. Download this episode now to hear more! [00:02:38] Anita explains her background and interest in the research, and her curiosity about the usage and effectiveness of DEI metrics, especially for underrepresented groups. [00:04:36] Georg asks about Anita's aspirations for academic publication, and she shares surprising findings from her research, including lack of codes of conduct in many open source communities and the perception of DEI as a myth in some legacy projects. [00:09:23] Anita provides examples of projects using DEI metrics, like Apache Traffic Control and the Apache Diversity and Inclusion project. [00:12:24] Dawn asks which DEI metrics should be prioritized by communities looking to improve. Anita suggests focusing on leadership and governance as starting points for improving diversity and inclusivity, along with mentorship and sponsorship opportunities. [00:14:52] Georg asks about the use of DIMD files (“ALL in project”) and Anita tells us she didn't encounter using it since it was introduced after her interviews were completed. However, one participant mentioned it could aid in championing DEI efforts. [00:15:58] Anita touches upon an article, “An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation,” about challenges in funding applications and considers how CHAOSS metrics could help in such situations, particularly with sponsorship. [00:17:17] Dawn brings up concerns about using DEI metrics, and Anita discusses the potential flaws in DEI metrics, noting how differences in culture and background could affect the perception of norms and inclusivity, and stresses the importance of considering global perspectives in DEI metrics. [00:20:02] The discussion shifts to the discussion to DEI metrics for events and Georg notes the increasing adoption of these metrics by event organizers. Anita says the event badges program is popular and shares positive feedback on its impact on participation and overall event experience. [00:24:20] Anita shares an example of the Open Source Community Africa event's improved experience after adopting the DEI badge, emphasizing its positive feedback. [00:25:04] Georg and Anita discuss how the CHAOSS DEI badging helps event organizers implement DEI metrics, acting as a mirror to reflect on inclusivity and diversity. [00:28:09] Anita shares that she sees the research as enlightening, offering various perspectives on the potential of DEI metrics in the open source community. She encourages everyone to read the article for further insights. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:29:43] Georg's pick is doing the German tradition of Advent calendars. [00:31:14] Dawn's pick is getting a carbon dioxide monitor for her office to encourage her to open her window for a few minutes to get some fresh air. [00:31:57] Anita's pick is seeing this research come to an end and the possibility of taking these findings further. Panelists: Georg Link Dawn Foster Guest: Anita Ihuman Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Georg Link Website (https://georg.link/) Dawn Foster X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Anita Ihuman GitHub (https://github.com/Anita-ihuman) Anita Ihuman X/Twitter (https://twitter.com/anita_ihuman) Unveiling the Impact: DEI Metrics Overcoming Social Barriers in Open Source-Blog Post by Anita Ihuman (https://chaoss.community/unveiling-the-impact-dei-metrics-overcoming-social-barriers-in-open-source/) An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation (https://pythonafrica.blogspot.com/2023/12/an-open-letter-to-python-software_5.html) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 36:CHAOSS DEI Badging Initiative with Rachel Braun and Celia Stamps (https://podcast.chaoss.community/36) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 54:CHAOSS DEI Reflection Project (https://podcast.chaoss.community/54) CHAOSScon Europe 2024 (https://chaoss.community/chaosscon-2024-eu/) Apache Traffic Control (https://trafficcontrol.apache.org/) Apache Diversity and Inclusion (https://diversity.apache.org/) Special Guest: Anita ihuman.

CHAOSScast – Episode 73 In today's episode, the conversation dives deep into the Linux Foundation Research Open Source Maintainers Report. Georg, Alyssa, Dawn, Sophia, and Anita engage in a thoughtful discussion about the report's methodology, findings, and implications for open source projects. They explore topics such as the challenges of obtaining a representative sample in open source research, the bias toward technical contributors, and the importance of considering the long-term engagement lifecycle of contributors. Additionally, they touch upon the report's best practices, including documentation and diversity, and how these practices can be connected across different categories. Download this episode now to learn more! [00:2:50] Georg discusses the two main sections of the report: demographics of maintainers and contributors and maintainer best practices. He asks for thoughts and questions about the report. [00:03:13] Alyssa expresses curiosity about the methodology, the number of interviews (32), and the diversity of projects covered in the research. Dawn shares her perspective on the number of interviews, stating that in-depth qualitative interviews can lead to convergence on key topics. [00:05:32] Sophia discusses the challenges of obtaining a representative sample in open source research and mentions the effort to increase diversity in project types. She highlights the discussion of findings in percentages and expresses that it may be more quantitative than typical interview-based research. [00:07:54] Dawn agrees with Sophia's points and mentions her skepticism about percentages based on a small sample size. Georg mentions concerns about small sample sizes affecting the ability to make claims, especially with regards to best practices. [00:09:49] Alyssa expresses that some sections of the report resonated with her, while others, like the funding and satisfaction sections, did not. She questions the methodology and the types of questions asked. Sophia responds, mentioning the challenges of sampling in open source research and how the findings resonated with her to some extent. She highlights the issue of funding and its potential impact on open source community culture. [00:13:24] Georg asks if the findings and best practices aligned with their understanding the methodology helped in interpreting the findings. Anita adds her perspective, mentioning that the research highlights the transition from contributors to maintainers but raises questions about the representation of non-technical contributors. [00:14:45] Alyssa notes the term “super coders” used in the report and how it implies a technical background for maintainers. Dawn and Anita express concerns about bias towards technical contributors and the exclusion of non-technical contributors in the research. Sophia acknowledges the bias in open source data and the need for more inclusive understanding of contributors. [00:17:19] Georg raises the intriguing issue of maintainers being paid but feeling unsupported by their organizations. Dawn shares her experience of challenges in justifying promotions for open source developers within companies, and the visibility issue of open source work within organizations. [00:19:33] Alyssa highlights the tension between company priorities and open source community priorities, and the balancing act that open source developers have to manage while wearing multiple hats, and Sophia shares her thoughts on this. [00:21:53] Georg transitions the discussion to the best practices section of the report, and Anita shares that she finds the documentation, especially when engineers are tasked with writing it. She discusses issues related to technical jargon and the usability of documentation. [00:24:00] Georg acknowledges the recuring challenge of documentation in open source projects and mentions the importance of considering different learning styles when creating documentation. Alyssa suggests that there could be opportunities to connect best practices across different categories. [00:26:27] Now the conversation shifts towards the diversity section of the report, where Georg discusses the lack of well-structured diversity efforts in many open source projects. [00:28:09] Sophia comments about the identifiable interviews in the research, noting that having named participants may have limited the depth of the diversity discussion due to privacy concerns. Alyssa comments on the decision to have identifiable interviews and highlights that it influenced the way the research results were presented, including the discussion on diversity. [00:30:41] Georg brings up the connection between the discussion in the report and the work being done in the CHAOSS Project. Dawn emphasizes the importance of thinking about metrics and how they can be applied in open source projects, and she provides examples of how metrics can be used to measure specific aspects of project health. [00:32:43] Alyssa expresses curiosity about what others think of the report's conclusion and the attributes table, which suggests a strategy for project health assessment and improvement. [00:33:30] Georg shares his perspective on the conclusion and mentions that the strategy for improving project health based on complexity and lifecycle stages seems self-evident. Sophia mentions that it doesn't fully address the lifecycle of contributors beyond the onboarding phase and points out there is a lack of discussion about when contributors may want to step away from a project and the issue of aging out of longstanding projects. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:36:44] Georg's pick is visits from families. [00:37:08] Anita's pick is recently getting her Bachelor of Science in Microbiology and wondering what her next steps are. [00:37:39] Dawn's pick is walks around the Old Town section of her neighborhood seeing really old buildings. [00:38:18] Alyssa's pick is the sun and seeing a Yayoi Kusama art show. [00:39:14] Sophia's pick is making a lot of homemade herbal tea. Panelists: Georg Link Dawn Foster Sophia Vargas Alyssa Wright Anita ihuman Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Ford Foundation (https://www.fordfoundation.org/) Georg Link LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/georglink/) Dawn Foster Twitter (https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Sophia Vargas Twitter (https://twitter.com/Sophia_IV) Alyssa Wright LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/alyssapwright/) Anita ihuman Twitter (https://twitter.com/Anita_ihuman) Linux Foundation Research Open Source Maintainers July 2023 Report (https://project.linuxfoundation.org/hubfs/LF%20Research/Open%20Source%20Maintainers%202023%20-%20Report.pdf?hsLang=en) Mozilla-Open Source Archetypes: A Framework For Purposeful Open Source (https://blog.mozilla.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/MZOTS_OS_Archetypes_report_ext_scr.pdf) Yayoi Kusama (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yayoi_Kusama) Special Guests: Alyssa Wright and Anita ihuman.

This episode is another round of interviews from OSS Summit in Bilbao and features interviews with Gab Columbro, the general manager of LF Europe and Dawn Foster of the CHAOSS project. We talk about open source strategy and challenges in Europe and measuring the health of large and small open source projects.It also features more announcements from Canonical, a round-up of less well-known audio editors, and getting ready for Halloween… Mystical texts.Full notes: https://chinchillasqueaks.substack.com/p/dbd7ab4f-f083-470f-a28c-d1c9ee399988

CHAOSScast – Episode 72 In this episode, our host, Matt Germonprez, is joined by Dawn Foster from the CHAOSS Community, Sophia Vargas from Google, and Gary White from Verizon. Today, they dive into the crucial topic of assessing the viability of open source projects for adoption within organizations. The discussion covers the intricacies of evaluating project viability, the challenges of project failure, and the necessity of continuous assessments. The panelists provide valuable insights on mitigating risks, leveraging metrics, and the importance of active engagement within open source communities. This episode offers a wealth of knowledge and practical advice for navigating the world of open source software. Download this episode now to hear more! [00:02:13] The discussion begins on the importance of assessing the viability of open source projects for adoption within organizations. Gary emphasizes the need to formalize the assessment of open source project viability beyond just technical metrics, Sophia stresses the importance of rigor in evaluating open source tools due to the lower barrier to adoption, and Dawn points out the importance of context, where the viability assessment depends on how the project is used within the organization. [00:06:32] The conversation shifts to when an open source project fails or changes significantly within an organization. Dawn discusses the challenges and uncertainty companies face when an open source project becomes unusable due to license changes or discontinuation, Sophia highlights the complexities and burdens of change management when a project fails, and Gary mentions the negative impact on morale and the time-consuming nature of dealing with project failures. [00:10:55] Sophia discusses the challenges in communication between project leaders and end users, particularly when projects are consumed through third-party package managers. Gary highlights the challenge of getting project leaders and developers motivated to assess project viability and the need for data-driven metrics to facilitate communication between leadership and implementation teams. [00:13:09] Dawn stresses the importance of continuous assessments of open source project viability rather than treating it as a one-time task. [00:14:06] How do we assess if a project is good? Dawn discusses her historical approach to assessing open source projects, which included manual assessments. [00:16:31] Gary emphasizes the common practice of engineers making quick project choices without thorough assessments due to the ease of finding solutions online. [00:19:41] Sophia highlights the importance of considering how a project is used within the organization and the strategic implications of choosing open source projects, especially in large organizations. [00:21:50] Matt asks about monitoring and mitigating risks when using open source projects that may not be ideal from a viability perspective but are popular. Dawn acknowledges that project viability is not binary and can vary in terms of risk, suggesting that contributing to open source projects can mitigate risks. [00:22:56] Gary emphasizes the importance of becoming engaged and active members of open source communities to gain insight into project changes and mitigate potential risks. [00 24:15] Sophia highlights the role of metrics and monitoring in risk mitigation, mentioning that tracking certain information may not be easy but it is crucial. Dawn notes the lack of ongoing viability monitoring and suggests the need for more sophisticated approaches. [00:26:37] Gary agrees that monitoring is essential and mentions a metric called “lib year” to track the age of dependencies as an example of monitoring for open source projects, and he discusses the importance of automated recommendations within software scanning tools to help users make informed decisions about dependencies. [00:28:27] Sophia addresses the challenge of scale when dealing with many open source projects, emphasizing the need to adapt monitoring and risk mitigation approaches based on the organization's portfolio size. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:30:15] Matt's pick is running in the dark on cool mornings. [00:30:33] Dawn's pick is hanging out with people when she was at the Open Source Summit in Bilbao, Spain. [00:31:03] Sophia's pick is joining an orchestra a few months ago. [00:31:41] Gary's pick is having pumpkin spice back in his life. *Panelists: * Matt Germonprez Dawn Foster Sophia Vargas Gary White Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Ford Foundation (https://www.fordfoundation.org/) Georg Link Twitter (https://twitter.com/georglink) Matt Germonprez Twitter (https://twitter.com/germ) Dawn Foster Twitter (https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Sophia Vargas Twitter (https://twitter.com/Sophia_IV) Gary White LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/garywhitejr/?challengeId=AQEv--5HftMoBgAAAYsXL2iHfaGnQ2ZuiHoIWXTS2djLR7Egg5bea7ssesyMpR4iE0_FlSm1xuIdrRJtT9Ud3Zz2BA5RPxnaBw&submissionId=9ed5100e-879a-8c17-6615-47f9a29dcf7e&challengeSource=AgHoxRBJLKZQOgAAAYsXL6FZfLKYtxYqjuxY6Vbrgh72b_WOMwkPWsgzm3nPpY4&challegeType=AgHJBLfWjTFXCwAAAYsXL6FcCbRSfBcK6kmhaXgmTaeZZBINfv1FiwQ&memberId=AgE94SgXMMqCywAAAYsXL6FgFfWaBdkGJu0tvP9y7Vb0B8c&recognizeDevice=AgFqtB9A-OoPbAAAAYsXL6FjqkzACctkmLucd27uj2tOYXe6XdFl) libyear (https://libyear.com/#:~:text=A%20simple%20measure%20of%20software,to%2Ddate%20your%20dependencies%20are.) OSS Project Viability Metrics Models: OSS Project Viability: Community (https://chaoss.community/?p=5403) OSS Project Viability: Compliance + Security (https://chaoss.community/?p=5407) OSS Project Viability: Governance (https://chaoss.community/?p=5411) OSS Project Viability: Strategy (https://chaoss.community/?p=5416) Special Guest: Gary White.

CHAOSScast – Episode 71 In this episode, the CHAOSScast team is back! Georg Link, Dawn Foster, Sean Goggins, Matt Germonprez, and Elizabeth Barron discuss the relaunch of the podcast after taking a short break. They delve into the fascinating world of open source community health, focusing on metrics, metric models, and the CHAOSS Project's role in measuring the health of open source communities. They share insights on how they're working to make metrics more accessible and how they interpret these metrics within the context of specific projects. Additionally, they highlight the Data Science Initiative, the growth of CHAOSS community chapters worldwide, and their initiative to improve newcomer experience and promote diversity and inclusion in open source. Download this episode now to find out much more! [00:02:48] We hear more about where CHAOSS is with developing metrics and metric models and the Context Groups they've developed to bring together individuals interested in the health of specific projects or communities. [00:06:06] The Metric Development Process is brought up, which is the process of defining and releasing metrics has evolved. While some working groups still develop metrics, there's an effort to consolidate and organize metrics to make them more accessible to users, including categorizing and tagging them. [00:08:11] Dawn brings up Metrics Models which are collections of metrics that provide insights into specific aspects of open source community health. These models help users understand various phenomena in open source software health and use metrics effectively. [00:12:14] Georg brings up something new called the Data Science Initiative within CHAOSS, and Dawn talks about her role as Director of Data Science. The initiative aims to provide guidance to users of CHAOSS metrics and tools for interpreting data effectively and she tells us all the key areas that it's focused on. [00:16:14] Matt asks Dawn about the balance between maintain an agnostic stance on metrics and providing more guidance to users in interpreting metrics. Dawn discusses the importance of helping users interpret metrics in the context of their specific projects. [00:17:55] Georg and Dawn talk about using metrics as pointers to prompt users to investigate specific aspects of their communities and projects. [00:18:53] Elizabeth asks if CHAOSS should play a role in advising users on how to make changes in their communities based on metric insights without adversely affecting other metrics. Dawn shares her thoughts and Sean mentions the experience of CHAOSS members in evaluating different communities and interpreting metrics. [00:20:34] Georg expresses excitement about the future of CHAOSS and its journey. [00:21:54] Sean provides an overview of Augur and its evolution over time, including its ability to capture large volumes of data and the development of an API. [00:24:19] Georg discusses recent developments in Grimoire Lab, including multi tenancy support, scalability improvements, and optimization of data enrichment processes. He also talks about the migration of Grimoire Lab from Elasticsearch to OpenSearch for data storage and visualization, and Sorting Hat, a module within Grimoire Lab for managing identities. [00:27:40] Dawn asks about the future use of Kibiter, the Kibana fork used in Grimoire Lab, and Georg confirms a full migration to OpenSearch and Open Search Dashboards, indicating that Kibiter may be phased out. [00:28:52] Matt asks about recent challenges and achievements related to data management and data cleaning in Augur and Grimoire Lab. Sean mentions the importance of data in operationalizing metrics and making them tangible. Georg emphasizes two critical aspects of data quality. [00:33:32] Elizabeth shares insight into the growth of the CHAOSS community. She discusses the challenges of managing the growing community, and a group CHAOSS is partnering with called “All in” to develop badging for open source projects, addressing scalability challenges. [00:41:53] Elizabeth talks about the DEI Reflection Project which was crucial in identifying blind spots and improving the CHAOSS community. It led to valuable recommendations, including enhancing the newcomer experience and promoting diversity and inclusion. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:44:30] Georg's pick is living in his new house that he loves. [00:45:11] Matt's pick is his cool morning bike rides to his office. [00:45:44] Dawn's pick is a warm, sunny vacation she took in Malta. [00:46:15] Elizabeth's pick is seeing her granddaughter getting excited to see flowers, birds, mushrooms, and be out in nature. [00:46:48] Sean's pick is his daughter, an English PHD student, who published her first academic paper, and has another up for a revise and resubmit. *Panelists: * Georg Link Dawn Foster Matt Germonprez Sean Goggins Elizabeth Barron Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Mastodon (https://fosstodon.org/@chaoss) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Ford Foundation (https://www.fordfoundation.org/) Georg Link Website (https://georg.link/) Dawn Foster Twitter (https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn) Matt Germonprez Twitter (https://twitter.com/germ) Sean Goggins Twitter (https://twitter.com/sociallycompute) Elizabeth Barron Twitter (https://twitter.com/elizabethn) CHAOSS Data Science Working Group (https://github.com/chaoss/wg-data-science) Data Science Initiative-Raw data from the Understanding Challenges survey (https://github.com/chaoss/wg-data-science/commit/d86a02841f221308b913d08bc9ae644adced69fc) Augur repositories (https://ai.chaoss.io/) Project Aspen (https://github.com/oss-aspen#8knot-explorer) 8Knot-Metrix CHAOSS (https://metrix.chaoss.io/) Bitergia Analytics- GrimoireLab (https://chaoss.biterg.io) OpenSearch (https://opensearch.org/) Sorting Hat (https://github.com/chaoss/grimoirelab-sortinghat) Kibiter (https://github.com/chaoss/grimoirelab-kibiter) OpenSearch Dashboards (https://opensearch.org/docs/latest/dashboards/index/) All In (https://allinopensource.org/) GitHub All in (https://github.com/AllInOpenSource/All-In) CHAOSS Software (https://chaoss.community/software/) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 54: CHAOSS DEI Reflection Project (https://podcast.chaoss.community/54)

Dawn Foster, Director of Open Source Community Strategy at VMware, is a champion of community strategy and development. A doctor of Philosophy, Foster is well-versed in the understanding of collaboration and leverages her mountain of knowledge to fight for the health of maintainers in open-source projects.In this episode of The Business of Open Source, Dawn Foster joins me from the Open Source Summit North America to tackle community strategy and contribution growth methods. Foster also touches on the differences between open contributions and what project leads should do to help grow their maintainers.Highlights: Why is it essential to have a contributor growth strategy? (1:46) Loss of control (3:10) How to be proactive for project growth (4:24) Proactive communication to foster a relationship (7:15) Non-code contributions are just as crucial as maintainers (9:47) Is it a mistake to have no contributor growth strategy (12:20) One tactic when being a single maintainer (13:33) Replacing your maintainers (16:02) Don't get arrested (18:10) Improving your skills in maintaining  (19:17) Navigating contributions to a project (21:29) Increasing the number of contributions per person (24:13) Example of a good growth strategy (27:07) Links:Dawn  LinkedIn Twitter VMware

It's more important to know what you don't know than to know what you do. Once you recognize you don't have the answer you are looking for, you can choose between doing things harder for you or finding a professional to help, coach, or educate you on how to find that answer. Today, I'm joined by Dawn Foster, CEO and Founder of D. Foster Marketing. She is an unapologetic marketing and branding nerd passionate about data, analytics, and creativity. After over 15 years of experience leading marketing teams for big and small companies, Dawn made the leap of faith and started her own branding and marketing consultancy company, where she helps small businesses and solopreneurs design, craft, and implement marketing strategies to produce winning results and scale their businesses. We had a fantastic conversation about Dawn's journey, her unique left-and-right side-of-the-brain marketing approach, combining creativity and data analytics, and her biggest lessons as an entrepreneur. We also explore her personal brand, analyze her archetype: the sage, and talk about her mentors and how they helped her cement her path as a brand and marketing strategist. Tune in to episode 54 of The Brand Therapist to hear more about Dawn's unique branding and marketing strategy approach.In This Episode, You Will Learn:What's D. Foster Marketing about (2:18)About Dawn's unique approach to marketing and branding (3:03)All about the sage, Dawn's archetype (5:41)A fame story from Dawn (8:16)How it was for Dawn to come out of her comfort zone (12:11)Dawn shares three lessons entrepreneurship taught her (15:14)Connect with Dawn:WebsiteLinkedInInstagramFacebookJoin The Foundation Series programLet's Connect!WebsiteLinkedIn Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, we have the pleasure of sitting down with Dawn Foster, an expert in branding and marketing. Throughout our candid chat, we delve into the complex world of branding and marketing, exploring the nuances and differences between the two concepts. As she explains, a brand is not just a logo or a catchy slogan. It is a reflection of a company's values, personality, and reputation. A brand encompasses everything that a company represents, from its visual identity to its customer experience. In other words, a brand is the perception that customers have of a company. On the other hand, marketing is the tactical execution of a brand strategy. It involves developing a plan to communicate a company's brand message to its target audience through various channels, such as advertising, social media, and public relations. Marketing tactics are designed to generate interest, build awareness, and ultimately drive sales. Throughout our conversation, Dawn emphasizes the importance of understanding the difference between brand and marketing in order to develop an effective brand strategy. By building a strong brand foundation, companies can create a lasting connection with their customers and differentiate themselves from their competitors. And by executing a well-planned marketing strategy, they can effectively communicate their brand message and drive business growth. Connect with Dawn and her team: https://thefoundationseries.dfostermarketing.com/ Check out The Foundation Series, which will help you build your brand as a new entrepreneur. It is a one-stop shop for everything you need to know to get your brand off the ground, into the digital space, and how to go about marketing it. About the Host Suzy Wraines: Download Starting a Business Simplified Guide Facebook Group: Women Medical Professionals Starting an Online Business https://suzywraines.com/page/medical-fb-group Instagram: @startingabusinesssimplified https://www.instagram.com/startingabusinesssimplified/ LinkedIn: Suzy Wraines https://www.linkedin.com/in/suzywraines/

Did you know that branding and marketing are two separate things completely and should be treated with care in your business?In this week's episode, we chat with Dawn Foster of D. Foster Marketing. She share with us a bit about herself, and then we dig into the following:The difference between marketing and branding and what exactly a marketing strategy is.A few things small businesses and solopreneurs should consider the following when brandingHow do put together their brand on a budgetWhat marketing tactics are and how they fit properly into your businessTips for considering your time and resources when using marketing tacticsThe reason consistency is king in businessTo find out more about this week's guest, view the full show notes at: https://herbusinesselevated.com/marketing-and-branding/Do these tips help you? I sure hope so!☕Support this podcast with a one-time coffee or a monthly membership here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/demetriazinga

Guest Dawn Foster | Andrew Nesbitt Panelist Richard Littauer Show Notes Hello and welcome to Sustain! The podcast where we talk about sustaining open source for the long haul. Richard is at the State of Open Con 2023 UK in London, which is a conference dedicated towards open source. Today, he has two guests joining him in-person and his first guest is Dawn Foster, who's Director of Open Source Community Strategy in VMware's OSPO. We'll hear about Dawn's responsibilities at VMWare, some highlights on what she talks about at her talk, some great tools she uses, and the importance of mentoring to grow the next wave of maintainers. Richard's next guest is Andrew Nesbitt, who's a Software Engineer, Founder of Libraries.io, and a new project he's working on with Ben Nickolls called, Ecosyste.ms. We'll learn more about a project he did a while ago called, 24 Pull Requests, and the newest project, Ecosyste.ms, and how it's different from Libraries.io. Download this episode now to hear much more! [00:00:48] We hear about Dawn's talk on leading in open source and taking a strategic approach and she shares some bullet points from it. [00:03:33] Is there a way to win an ROI argument with an argumentative manager and how can you win those conversations? Dawn explains ways to justify it. [00:06:54] Richard brings up how he thinks about open source as two different buckets, one as developers, and the other as enterprise corporate models, and wonders if they're the same type of community, and Dawn explains how they blend together. [00:08:13] Dawn details her job and responsibilities at VMware. [00:10:15] We heard Dawn mention she uses CHAOSS tools, but are there others she uses to make it easier for her as a community strategy? She tells us about a metrics model for the CHAOSS Project called, Starter Project Health Metrics Model. [00:12:19] At VMware, their business units operate independently, and Dawn tells us how they act in more of a mentor capacity for the groups. [00:13:38] Dawn shares her thoughts on how engineers are going to move forward in their career from the project to have the skills necessary to do the same thing at a new project. She tells about a talk she did geared towards maintainers. [00:16:57] How does Dawn operationalize the off giving of trust for maintainers? [00:18:42] Dawn shares how she's looking forward to a future with looking at things from a data based approach, and where you can follow her on the internet. [00:20:17] Andrew gives us the history of how he met Ben Nickolls, a project he started a while ago called, 24 Pull Requests, and how libraries.io started. [00:28:05] Has Andrew ever looked at projects that are popular or that are infrastructure level which may be used in closed source, but have licenses that discriminate against closed source usage? [00:28:43] Andrew and Ben are working on a new project called Ecosyste.ms. What's the difference between that and libraires.io? [00:33:50] If you're looking to improve or understand the stack of your dependencies, Andrew tells us what the most interesting use case of Ecosyste.ms is for a maintainer or community manager. [00:37:32] Find out where you can follow Andrew on the web. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter (https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) Richard Littauer Twitter (https://twitter.com/richlitt?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Dawn Foster Twitter (https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn?lang=en) Dawn Foster GitHub (https://github.com/geekygirldawn) Dawn Foster Mastodon (https://hachyderm.io/@geekygirldawn) Dawn Foster Blog (https://fastwonderblog.com/) CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) Andrew Nesbitt Twitter (https://twitter.com/teabass) Andrew Nesbitt Website (https://nesbitt.io/) Andrew Nesbitt GitHub (https://github.com/andrew) Ben Nickolls Twitter (https://twitter.com/BenJam) Libraries.io (https://libraries.io/) 24 Pull Requests-GitHub (https://github.com/24pullrequests/24pullrequests) Ecosyste.ms-GitHub (https://github.com/ecosyste-ms) Sustain Podcast-Episode 70: Avi Press and Scarf (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/guests/avi-press) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guests: Andrew Nesbitt and Dawn Foster.

Welcome to Episode 493 of the Yeukai Business Show. In this episode, Dawn Foster, a branding and marketing expert, provides a step-by-step roadmap and recommendations on how to produce winning results as a business owner. So, if you want to know more about how to produce winning results, tune in now! In this episode, you'll discover: The piece of the puzzle that business owners miss which leads to failureWhy process, procedure, and future planning are crucial for moving forwardWhat to use as your north star to propel forward About Dawn Foster Dawn Foster is a marketing strategist, brand guru, and owner of D. Foster Marketing, a consulting firm that also functions as a full-service agency for solopreneurs, and small business owners. Dawn has worked with budgets that range from non-existent to multi-million dollars and everywhere in between. Her experience, creativity, and analytical skills are helping solopreneurs, C-Suite operations, e-commerce and online retailers create original branding and marketing strategies that are exceeding revenue goals and standing out from their competitors. More Information Learn more about Branding and Marketing at https://www.dfostermarketing.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dawnpfoster/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dfostermarketing/ Thanks for Tuning In! Thanks so much for being with us this week. Have some feedback you'd like to share? Please leave a note in the comments section below! If you enjoyed this episode on How to Expand your Business, please share it with your friends by using the social media buttons you see at the bottom of the post. Don't forget to subscribe to the show on iTunes to get automatic episode updates for our "Yeukai Business Show !" And, finally, please take a minute to leave us an honest review and rating on iTunes. They really help us out when it comes to the ranking of the show and I make it a point to read every single one of the reviews we get. Please leave a review right now Thanks for listening!

https://linktr.ee/doweknowthem In today's episode, we dive into the tiktok picklemeeverything disaster, Brittany Dawn's Drama & Andrew Tate being arrested and taking the fattest L in history We hope you enjoyed this episode! Please let us know on Twitter or Instagram if you have any topic suggestions for next Sunday! (@lily_marston & @jessismiles__) 0:00 Intro 4:21 Pickle Tiktok Drama 29:15 Brittany Dawn Foster Drama 1:04:56 Andrew Tate Arrested Business Inquiries: doweknowthempodcast@gmail.com Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Dawn Foster, chronicler of austerity Britain and leading voice from the housing crisis, passed away last year aged 34. Foster, author of Lean Out (Repeater, 2016) and LRB contributor, was a working class feminist who rose to prominence as a newspaper columnist and broadcast commentator; she was a fearless champion for those at the sharp end. In the week of the Queen's funeral, friends and colleagues discussed her life and legacy: K Biswas, critic and director of Resonance FM and On Road Media; James Butler, LRB contributing editor and co-founder of Novara Media; Lynsey Hanley, broadcaster and author; and Gary Younge, author and sociology professor at the University of Manchester.Read Dawn Foster's work in the LRB: lrb.me/dawnfosterFind more Bookshop events via the website: lrb.me/eventspod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The whole world uses open source, but as we've learned from the Log4j debacle, “free” software isn't really free. Organizations and their customers pay for it when projects aren't frequently updated and maintained. How can we support open source project maintainers — and how can we decide which projects are worth the time and effort to maintain? “A lot of people pick up open source projects, and use them in their products and in their companies without really thinking about whether or not that project is likely to be successful over the long term,” Dawn Foster, director of open source community strategy at VMware's open source program office (OSPO), told The New Stack's audience during this On the Road edition of The New Stack's Makers podcast. In this conversation recorded at Open Source Summit Europe in Dublin, Ireland, Foster elaborated on the human cost of keeping open source software maintained, improved and secure —  and how such projects can be sustained over the long term. The conversation, sponsored by Amazon Web Services, was hosted by Heather Joslyn, features editor at The New Stack. Assessing Project Health: the ‘Lottery Factor' One of the first ways to evaluate the health of an open source project, Foster said, is the “lottery factor”: “It's basically if one of your key maintainers for a project won the lottery, retired on a beach tomorrow, could the project continue to be successful?” “And if you have enough maintainers and you have the work spread out over enough people, then yes. But if you're a single maintainer project and that maintainer retires, there might not be anybody left to pick it up.” Foster is on the governing board for an project called Community Health Analytics Open Source Software — CHAOSS, to its friends — that aims to provide some reliable metrics to judge the health of an open source initiative. The metrics CHAOSS is developing, she said, “help you understand where your project is healthy and where it isn't, so that you can decide what changes you need to make within your project to make it better.” CHAOSS uses tooling like Augur and GrimoireLab to help get notifications and analytics on project health. And it's friendly to newcomers, Foster said. “We spend...a lot of time just defining metrics, which means working in a Google Doc and thinking about all of the different ways you might possibly measure something — something like, are you getting a diverse set of contributors into your project from different organizations, for example.” Paying Maintainers, Onboarding Newbies It's important to pay open source maintainers in order to help sustain projects, she said. “The people that are being paid to do it are going to have a lot more time to devote to these open source projects. So they're going to tend to be a little bit more reliable just because they're they're going to have a certain amount of time that's devoted to contributing to these projects.” Not only does paying people help keep vital projects going, but it also helps increase the diversity of contributors, “because you by paying people salaries to do this work in open source, you get people who wouldn't naturally have time to do that. “So in a lot of cases, this is women who have extra childcare responsibilities. This is people from underrepresented backgrounds who have other commitments outside of work,” Foster said. “But by allowing them to do that within their work time, you not only get healthier, longer sustaining open source projects, you get more diverse contributions.” The community can also help bring in new contributors by providing solid documentation and easy onboarding for newcomers, she said. “If people don't know how to build your software, or how to get a development environment up and running, they're not going to be able to contribute to the project.” And showing people how to contribute properly can help alleviate the issue of burnout for project maintainers, Foster said:  “Any random person can file issues and bug maintainers all day, in ways that are not productive. And, you know, we end up with maintainer burnout...because we just don't have enough maintainers," said Foster. “Getting new people into these projects and participating in ways that are eventually reducing the load on these horribly overworked maintainers is a good thing.” Listen or watch this episode to learn more about maintaining open source sustainability.

Panelists Georg Link | Richard Littauer | Dawn Foster | Willem Jiang | Amanda Casari | Ben Nickolls Show Notes Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today's episode is a shared podcast between Sustain and CHAOSS. We have six panelists to talk about maintaining open source and we'll also do a quick update from a previous episode and talk about what has changed and what maintaining open source looks like today. The panelists we have are Georg Link, Richard Littauer, Dawn Foster, Willem Jiang, Amanda Casari, and Ben Nickolls. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don't forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:00:38] The six panelists introduce themselves. [00:04:04] Richard details more about what Sustain is, Georg and Dawn explain CHAOSS and what's going on there, and Amanda shares what she likes about CHAOSS. [00:13:15] Dawn talks about the kind of community members CHAOSS has, Willem tells us about the Asia community, and Ben shares his views on the Sustain community. [00:19:22] Georg asks if there's been any updates on the funding situation in open source and if anything has changed there and Ben updates us. [00:22:34] When thinking about resources, who gets paid, how money flows, and how we identify when help is needed, Amanda wonders how that's changed in the last few years in the CHAOSS community. [00:25:09] Richard shares from his angle what he's seen about what has changed in the past two years in open source. [00:27:09] Ben shares his views on the supply chain conversation about who is making money in open source. [00:29:06] Since security is such a hot topic, Georg asks if we're prepared in all the open source projects to really focus on this topic or if we have to upskill everyone, and we hear Ben's thoughts on this. [00:31:02] Richard explains how you can get involved in Sustain happenings that are going on, and Georg and Dawn inform us about some projects, working groups, and other things going on with CHAOSS. [00:39:17] Find out where you can get involved with Sustain and CHAOSS. Spotlight [00:34:21] Georg's pick is meeting with an online local group and doing cool things together. [00:35:06] Richard's pick is going on a super long hike and buying a hydration pack (CamelBak Pouch). [00:35:56] Dawn's spotlight is GraphiQL. [00:36:34] Ben's spotlights are taking care of Swifts on his roof, and the book, Swifts and Us: The Life of the Bird that Sleeps in the Sky. [00:36:55] Amanda's pick is the book, Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle. [00:38:03] Willem's pick is ApacheCon Asia 2022. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter (https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) Sustain Podcast (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Community Participate (https://chaoss.community/participate/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Ford Foundation (https://www.fordfoundation.org/) Georg Link Twitter (https://twitter.com/georglink) Richard Littauer Twitter (https://twitter.com/richlitt?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Dawn Foster Twitter (https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn) Willem Jiang Twitter (https://twitter.com/willemjiang) Amanda Casari Twitter (https://twitter.com/amcasari/) Ben Nickolls Twitter (https://twitter.com/BenJam?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Sustain Podcast-Episode 65: CHAOSS and Sustain: A Joint Podcast (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/65) Ecosyste.ms (https://ecosyste.ms/) xkcd (https://xkcd.com/2347/) Executive Order on Improving the Nation's Cybersecurity (The White House) (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/05/12/executive-order-on-improving-the-nations-cybersecurity/) Sustain 2021 Event Report (https://sustainoss.org/assets/pdf/Sustain-In-2021-Event-Report.pdf) Mozilla-Open Source Archetypes: A Framework For Purposeful Open Source May 2018 (https://blog.mozilla.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/MZOTS_OS_Archetypes_report_ext_scr.pdf) SonarQube (https://www.sonarqube.org/) CamelBak Crux 3-Liter Water Reservoir (https://www.amazon.com/CamelBak-Crux-Reservoir-Set-Blue/dp/B01LA5FCJ2/ref=sr_1_2?gclid=Cj0KCQjw_7KXBhCoARIsAPdPTfjbp84atlITCdNAL5gP7kt8BFwPzg9TcouW3yKU019aOaPtTeB5wmkaAmvTEALw_wcB&hvadid=410016279262&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9010767&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=9439371394441572640&hvtargid=kwd-324558368114&hydadcr=9380_11541651&keywords=camelbak+pouches&qid=1659732626&sr=8-2) GraphiQL (https://www.gatsbyjs.com/docs/how-to/querying-data/running-queries-with-graphiql/) [Swifts and Us: The Life of the Bird that Sleeps in the Sky by Sarah Gibson](https://www.amazon.com/Swifts-Us-Life-Bird-Sleeps/dp/0008350663/ref=tmmpapswatch0?encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=) Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle by Emily Nagoski, PhD and Amelia Nagoski, DMA (https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/592377/burnout-by-emily-nagoski-phd-and-amelia-nagoski-dma/) ApacheCon Asia 2022 (https://www.apachecon.com/acasia2022/) [Working in Public: The Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software by Nadia Eghbal](https://www.amazon.com/Working-Public-Making-Maintenance-Software/dp/0578675862/ref=sr11?crid=XK0VVY8QW60A&keywords=nadia+eghbal&qid=1659813710&sprefix=%2Caps%2C307&sr=8-1)

Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today's episode is a shared podcast between Sustain and CHAOSS. We have six panelists to talk about maintaining open source and we'll also do a quick update from a previous episode and talk about what has changed and what maintaining open source looks like today. The panelists we have are Georg Link, Richard Littauer, Dawn Foster, Willem Jiang, Amanda Casari, and Ben Nickolls. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don't forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:01:19] The six panelists introduce themselves. [00:04:45] Richard details more about what Sustain is, Georg and Dawn explain CHAOSS and what's going on there, and Amanda shares what she likes about CHAOSS. [00:13:56] Dawn talks about the kind of community members CHAOSS has, Willem tells us about the Asia community, and Ben shares his views on the Sustain community. [00:20:04] Georg asks if there's been any updates on the funding situation in open source and if anything has changed there and Ben updates us. [00:24:14] When thinking about resources, who gets paid, how money flows, and how we identify when help is needed, Amanda wonders how that's changed in the last few years in the CHAOSS community. [00:26:34] Richard shares from his angle what he's seen about what has changed in the past two years in open source. [00:28:33] Ben shares his views on the supply chain conversation about who is making money in open source. [00:30:36] Since security is such a hot topic, Georg asks if we're prepared in all the open source projects to really focus on this topic or if we have to upskill everyone, and we hear Ben's thoughts on this. [00:32:27] Richard explains how you can get involved in Sustain happenings that are going on, and Georg and Dawn inform us about some projects, working groups, and other things going on with CHAOSS. [00:40:42] Find out where you can get involved with Sustain and CHAOSS. Spotlights/Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:35:46] Georg's pick is meeting with an online local group and doing cool things together. [00:36:31] Richard's pick is going on a super long hike and buying a hydration pack (CamelBak Pouch). [00:37:21] Dawn's spotlight is GraphiQL. [00:37:59] Ben's spotlights are taking care of Swifts on his roof, and the book, Swifts and Us: The Life of the Bird that Sleeps in the Sky. [00:38:21] Amanda's pick is the book, Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle. [00:39:29] Willem's pick is ApacheCon Asia 2022. Panelists: Georg Link Richard Littauer Dawn Foster Willem Jiang Amanda Casari Ben Nickolls Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Community Participate (https://chaoss.community/participate/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter (https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) Sustain Podcast (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) Ford Foundation (https://www.fordfoundation.org/) Georg Link Twitter (https://twitter.com/georglink) Richard Littauer Twitter (https://twitter.com/richlitt?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Dawn Foster Twitter (https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn) Willem Jiang Twitter (https://twitter.com/willemjiang) Amanda Casari Twitter (https://twitter.com/amcasari/) Ben Nickolls Twitter (https://twitter.com/BenJam?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Sustain Podcast-Episode 65: CHAOSS and Sustain: A Joint Podcast (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/65) Ecosyste.ms (https://ecosyste.ms/) xkcd (https://xkcd.com/2347/) Executive Order on Improving the Nation's Cybersecurity (The White House) (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/05/12/executive-order-on-improving-the-nations-cybersecurity/) Sustain 2021 Event Report (https://sustainoss.org/assets/pdf/Sustain-In-2021-Event-Report.pdf) Mozilla-Open Source Archetypes: A Framework For Purposeful Open Source May 2018 (https://blog.mozilla.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/MZOTS_OS_Archetypes_report_ext_scr.pdf) SonarQube (https://www.sonarqube.org/) CamelBak Crux 3-Liter Water Reservoir (https://www.amazon.com/CamelBak-Crux-Reservoir-Set-Blue/dp/B01LA5FCJ2/ref=sr_1_2?gclid=Cj0KCQjw_7KXBhCoARIsAPdPTfjbp84atlITCdNAL5gP7kt8BFwPzg9TcouW3yKU019aOaPtTeB5wmkaAmvTEALw_wcB&hvadid=410016279262&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9010767&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=9439371394441572640&hvtargid=kwd-324558368114&hydadcr=9380_11541651&keywords=camelbak+pouches&qid=1659732626&sr=8-2) GraphiQL (https://www.gatsbyjs.com/docs/how-to/querying-data/running-queries-with-graphiql/) [Swifts and Us: The Life of the Bird that Sleeps in the Sky by Sarah Gibson](https://www.amazon.com/Swifts-Us-Life-Bird-Sleeps/dp/0008350663/ref=tmmpapswatch0?encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=) Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle by Emily Nagoski, PhD and Amelia Nagoski, DMA (https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/592377/burnout-by-emily-nagoski-phd-and-amelia-nagoski-dma/) ApacheCon Asia 2022 (https://www.apachecon.com/acasia2022/) [Working in Public: The Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software by Nadia Eghbal](https://www.amazon.com/Working-Public-Making-Maintenance-Software/dp/0578675862/ref=sr11?crid=XK0VVY8QW60A&keywords=nadia+eghbal&qid=1659813710&sprefix=%2Caps%2C307&sr=8-1) Special Guests: Amanda Casari, Benjamin Nickolls, Richard Littauer, and Willem Jiang.

In this episode of the podcast, Grizz interviews Dawn Foster, Director Open Source Community Strategy at VMware. This is the beginning of our series on the bedrock benefits of open source. Dawn and Grizz talk about how collaboration breeds creativity, how to be a good corporate citizen in open source, and also about Dawn's path, and how she's been able to turn her fascination in open source communities into a career. Dawn's Info | https://www.linkedin.com/in/dawnfoster/ Dawn's OSFF London Talk | https://resources.finos.org/znglist/osff-london-2022-video-recordings/?c=cG9zdDoxNzE5 Dawn is Director of Open Source Community Strategy within VMware's OSPO. She is a Governing Board member / maintainer for CHAOSS, Steering Committee member for the TODO Group, co-chair of the CNCF Contributor Strategy TAG, and OpenUK board member. She has 20+ years of experience at companies like Intel and Puppet with expertise in community building, strategy, open source software, governance, metrics, and more. Dawn holds a PhD from the University of Greenwich along with an MBA and a BS in Computer Science. She has spoken at over 100 industry events, including many Linux Foundation events, KubeCon, OSCON, SXSW, FOSDEM and more. In her spare time she enjoys reading science fiction, running, and traveling. CFP - submit your talks for OSFF NYC by September 12: https://events.linuxfoundation.org/open-source-finance-forum-new-york/program/cfp/ Register - Early bird ends September 14 (Members attend for free, but register early to be entered to win FINOS swag): https://events.linuxfoundation.org/open-source-finance-forum-new-york/register/ OSFF London Videos & Pics: https://resources.finos.org/znglist/osff-london-2022-video-recordings/?c=cG9zdDo5OTA2MjA= Grizz's Info | https://www.linkedin.com/in/aarongriswold/ | grizz@finos.org ►► Visit FINOS www.finos.org ►► Get In Touch: info@finos.org

VALENCIA – Open source code is part of at least 70% of enterprise stacks. Yet, a lot of open source contributors are still unpaid volunteers. Even more than tech as a whole, the future of open source relies on the community. Unless you're among the top tier funded open source projects, your sustainability replies on building a community – whether you want to or not – and cultivating project leadership to help recruit new maintainers – whether you want to hand over the reins or not. That's where the Tech Advisory Group or TAG on Contributor Strategy comes in, acting as maintainer relations for the Cloud Native Computing Foundation. In this episode of The New Stack Makers podcast, recorded on the floor of KubeCon + CloudNativeCon Europe 2022, we talk to Dawn Foster, VMware's director of open source community strategy; Josh Berkus, Red Hat's Kubernetes community manager; Catherine Paganini, Bouyant's head of marketing and community; and Deepthi Sigireddi, a software engineer at PlanetScale. Foster and Berkus are the co-chairs of the Contributor Strategy TAG, while Paganini is the creator of Linkerd and Sigireddi is a maintainer of Vitess, both CNCF graduated projects. Each brought their unique experience in both open source contribution and leadership to talk about the open source contributor experience, sustainability, governance, and guidance.     With 65% of KubeConEU attendees at a CNCF event for the first time, albeit still during a pandemic, it makes for an uncertain signal for the future of open source. It either shows that there's a burst of interest for newcomers or that there's a dwindling interest in long-term contributions. The executive director of CNCF Priyanka Sharma even noted in her keynote that contributions for the foundation's biggest project Kubernetes have grown stagnant. "I see it as a positive thing. I think it's always good to get some new blood into the community. And I think you know, the projects are working to do whatever they can to get new contributors," Foster said. [sponsor_note slug="kubecon-cloudnativecon" ][/sponsor_note] But it's not just about how many contributors but who. One thing that was glaringly apparent at the event was the lack of diversity, with the vast majority of the 7,000 KubeConEU participants being young, white men. This isn't surprising at all, as open source is still based on a lot of voluntary work which naturally excludes those most marginalized within the tech industry and society, which is why, according to GitHub's State of the Octoverse, it sees only about 4% women and nonbinary contributors, and only about 2% from the African continent.  If open source is such an integral part of tech's future, that future is built with more inequity than ever before. "The barrier to entry to open source right now is having free time. And to do free work? Yes, and let's face it, women still do a lot of childcare, a lot of housework, much more than men do, and they have less free time." Sigireddi continued that there are other factors which discourage those widely underrepresented in tech from participating, including "not having role models, not seeing people who look like you, the communities tend to have in-jokes [and other] things that are cultural, which minorities may not be able to relate to." Most open source code, while usually forked globally, exists in English only. One message throughout KubeConEU was, if a company relies on an open source project, it should pay some of its staff to contribute to and support that project because business may depend on it. This will in turn help bring OSS up a bit closer to the standard of the still abysmal tech industry statistics. "I think from an ecosystem perspective, I think that companies paying people to do the work on open source makes a big difference," Foster said. "At VMware, we pay lots of people who work primarily on upstream open source projects. And I think that does help us get more diversity into the community, because then people can do it as part of their regular day jobs." Encouraging those contributors that are underrepresented in OSS to speak up and be more representative of projects is another way to attract more diverse contributors. Berkus said the Contributors Strategy TAG had a meeting at KubeConEU with a group of primarily Italian women who have started in inclusiveness effort, starting with some things like speaker coaching and placement. "It turns out that a lot of things that you need to do to have more diverse contributors are things you actually needed to do anyway, just to make things better for all new contributors," Berkus explained. Indeed, welcoming new open source contributors – at all levels and in both technical and non-technical roles – is an important focus of the TAG. Paganini, along with colleague Jason Morgan, is co-author of the CNCF Landscape Guide, which acts as a welcome to the massive, overwhelming cloud native landscape. What she has found is that people will use the open source technology, but they will contribute to it because of the community. "We see a lot of projects really focusing on code and docs, which of course is the basics, but people don't come for the technology per se. You can have the best technology, it's amazing, and people are super excited, but if the community isn't there, if they don't feel welcome," they won't stick around, Paganini said. "People want to be part of a tribe, right?" Then, once you've successfully recruited and onboarded your community, you've got to work to not only retain but promote from within. All this and more is jam-packed into this lively discussion that cannot be missed! More on open source diversity and inclusion efforts: Beat Affinity Bias with Open Source Diversity and Inclusion Open Source Communities Need More Safe Spaces and Codes of Conducts. Now. WTF is Wrong with Open Source Communities Look Past the Bros, and Concerns About Open Source Inclusion Remain How to Give and Receive Technical Help in Open Source Communities Navigating the Messy World of Open Source Contributor Data How to Find a Mentor and Get Started in Open Source

Dawn Foster, Director of Open Source Community Strategy at VMware, joins me to chat about open sourcing and the potential risks to consider. With 20+ years of experience in business technology, Dawn lends great insight not only as a leader in the realm of open source, but as a champion for measuring project health.In this episode, Dawn discusses key risks to consider when open sourcing a project and what startups and small companies should think about as they embrace open source technologies. We also explore trust as a currency of open source, donating to neutral foundations, the CNCF Project Health Measurement Guide, and more.Highlights: What companies should consider when open sourcing a project. (00:24) Risks associated with open sourcing and the advantage of contributing projects to foundations. (03:59) Dawn explores the interrelation between using and contributing to an open source project. (07:26)   A discussion about evaluating and prioritizing a large number of projects - and why smaller companies should be deliberate about the open source technologies they embrace. (11:49)   A look at contributor risk with examples of how the risks can vary depending on the project. (17:09)   The value of trust in the open source - and Kim's final thoughts on measuring project health. (22:35)   Links:Connect with Dawn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dawnfoster/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn Fast Wonder Blog: https://fastwonderblog.com/ VMware: https://www.vmware.com/

“I always explain branding as the personality of your business.” - Dawn Foster Welcome to the Marketing To Millions Podcast, I'm your host, Liz Boer! In this episode, I welcome Dawn Foster to teach us how to set our brands up for success as Solopreneurs. We get practical and precise with metrics and tools.  Dawn Foster is a marketing strategist and brand guru who sees shapes and colors before words. She's led small and large marketing teams for over a decade and now works with solopreneurs and small business owners to take their marketing to the next level. Dawn is an analytical person who specializes in not only creating a branding foundation but in using numbers and data to amplify marketing strategies. She's worked with Golfsmith (now Dick's Sporting Goods), Renewal by Anderson, QuantumDigital, and more and shares what she's learned along the way with her clients.[00:01 - 08:28] Getting to Know Dawn[08:27 - 18:27] The First Steps of Online Marketing [18:28 - 28:47] What Happens After the Foundation is Set?[28:48 - 39:30] What Metrics Should Solopreneurs Focus on? [39:31 - 47:11] Favorite Branding, Media, and Metric Tools[47:12 - 49:54] Wrapping Up! Key Quotes“Branding now is more important than ever. People really want to connect with the business that they are deciding to put their resources into and invest in.” - Dawn Foster“Branding is something that does not stop, just because you're starting a business and working on branding. You'll continue to work on that same branding, and it will continue to evolve as long as your business is in existence.” - Dawn Foster“A little spend consistently has a bigger impact than a larger spend here or there.” - Dawn FosterResources Mentioned: HotJarGoogle AnalyticsHootsuiteBluehostWordPressMailchimp Connect with DawnWebsite: www.dfostermarketing.comLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/dawnpfoster Instagram: www.instagram.com/dfostermarketing Facebook: www.facebook.com/dfostermarketing  Let's get connected!  You can find me on Instagram and Facebook. Visit my website https://lizboer.com  Join the Marketing to Millions FB Group  LEAVE A REVIEW + and SHARE this episode with someone you know who wants to build their online business, influence, and brand. You can listen to Marketing to Millions on Spotify, Stitcher, or iTunes.

This week Vicky, Martin and Tony were joined by Head of Religions, Senior Lecturer in UCC, Amanullah De Sondy, Fianna Fáil Lord Mayor of Longford, Uruemu Adejinmi, Mr irishelectionprojections.com, Harry McEvansoneya and Senior Pharmacist (Cancer Services) au UHW, DJ Walsh, for what was a brilliant conversation. We discussed the polls, how Slaintecare is being sidelined and the predominantly white voices being aired in what is a multi cultural health care service. We also discussed the gulf in sentences between domestic violence and other areas, the legacy of 9/11, the week in politics and lots more. I also pay a little tribute to our friend, Dawn Foster, on what would've been her birthday. #DawnFosterForever A brilliant listen. For the full episode and to get access to these regular live podcasts please join us at patreon.com/tortoiseshack

Fraud and negligent misrepresentation are becoming increasingly common in many industries.Why is it a thing? Your host, Kristen Jones, and a returned guest to the podcast, Dawn Foster of D Foster Marketing are getting down to the nitty gritty of the matter.Are we Insta buddies? Find Us @thecalabashgroup and @thecreativemindproject242

Branding is important because not only is it what makes a memorable impression on consumers but it allows your customers and clients to know what to expect from your company. In this episode, your host, Kristen Jones, chats with Dawn Foster of D. Foster Marketing about EVERYTHING BRANDING, and what you need to do to set yourself apart from the competition and what sparks a connection with your audience.Are we Insta buddies? Find Us @thecalabashgroup and @thecreativemindproject242

This week we are joined by a very special guest, author and journalist Dawn Foster, to discuss the gatekeepers of British liberalism, The Guardian newspaper. We delve into the mythology of The Guardian, from its origins with the Peterloo Massacre to CP Scott's 'A Hundred Years' essay, its rise to global prominence in the digital age, and the various ways it shat the bed during the Corbyn years, including Dawn's dismissal after writing that Tom Watson article. All the while taking a detour through the Guardian's short-lived Shoreditch coffee shop. #GuardianCoffee. An enormous thanks to Dawn particularly for making sure this episode could still go ahead despite the very serious issues during recording. /// SHOW NOTES /// /// CREDITS /// Hosts: Aarjan /// Nikita Guest: Dawn Foster Production: Sarah Sahim Music: Cardio /// mattlikestapes - nicely /// mattlikestapes - collapsed garlic star