Dr. Ted DeJong (UC Davis Plant Sciences and UC ANR Cooperative Extension emeritus) discusses the physiology of dwarfing rootstocks and their influence on orchard management. DeJong provides some key considerations for growers when selecting a rootstock for their next orchard.Thank you to the Almond, Pistachio, Prune, and Walnut Boards of California for their kind donations. Thank you to Muriel Gordon for the music.The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker's own and do not represent the views, thoughts, and opinions of the University of California. The material and information presented here is for general information purposes only. The "University of California" name and all forms and abbreviations are the property of its owner and its use does not imply endorsement of or opposition to any specific organization, product, or service.
Welcome to Season 2 of the All Over Cricket Podcast Jay Dansinghani and Freelance writer Bertus de Jong, who writes about associate cricket for Cricbuzz, joins us to preview Group A of the upcoming Men's #T20WorldCup. Group A has been branded the "Group of Death" and features Ireland, the Netherlands, Namibia, and Sri Lanka. If you liked this podcast, you should check out our website https://www.allovercric.com You can follow us on Twitter and Facebook: https://twitter.com/AllOverCric https://www.facebook.com/AllOverCric
“Singapore may look small, and geographically speaking it is, but this tiny island city-state is jam packed with a myriad of things to do, see, buy and devour. The sleek and efficient public transport system makes zipping around a breeze, allowing you more time to dip your toes into this melting pot of cultures, religions, food and architecture.” That's an excerpt from an article by today's guest, Ria de Jong, about the Lion City, otherwise known as Singapore, the smallest and southernmost country on mainland Asia, which we'll talk about on this episode of Talk Travel Asia.
In this episode, we are joined by Tania de Jong, acclaimed soprano singer, keynote speaker, businesswoman and founder of multiple charities including Mind Medicine Australia. Tania speaks about the power of singing in mental health and its effect on the brain. She also speaks about her work as part of Mind Medicine Australia establishing safe and effective psychedelic-assisted treatments to treat a range of mental illnesses. If you are interested in learning more about the research ongoing in this field, this episode is for you! Follow @TaniaDeJongAM and her website www.taniadejong.com If you'd like to support Mind Medicine Australia, check out www.mindmedicineaustralia.org and watch this video on psychedelic-assisted therapy. The song played at the end of the episode is Angel Song from her album Heaven on Earth. Listen to Tania's music here: https://www.taniadejong.com/buy-music/ To find out more about Reset Your Anxious Mind In 90 Days, check out: https://bit.ly/36x9BHk To apply to work 1:1 with Georgie in her Balance program, check out: https://georgiecollinson.com/balance/ Disclaimer: This is not an inducement to use psychedelics. The information provided is for educational and informational purposes only.
In de dagelijkse podcast van FC Afkicken bespreken Neal, Bruce en Wouter op dinsdag 21 september onder meer de onzekere situatie van Ronald Koeman in Barcelona, de terugkeer van Eljero Elia in Den Haag, een bijzondere dag voor Ajax én de ontmoeting tussen RKC Waalwijk en Willem II komt ter sprake.(1:04) De druk op Ronald Koeman, Spanje-correspondent Edwin Winkels belt in(16:11) Eljero Elia keert terug in Den Haag(21:51) Fortuna Sittard – Ajax(29:49) RKC Waalwijk – Willem II(34:20) De Eredivisie-speelronde en FFF-ManagerBekijk ook:Het artikel van Edwin Winkels over Barcelona in het ADZie het privacybeleid op https://art19.com/privacy en de privacyverklaring van Californië op https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Sparks fly on the latest pod as Sam, Rik and Toni get stuck into Barcelona's 1-1 draw with Granada on Monday night. Listen up, because Barça are in action again on Thursday night against Cadiz and we will pod again for our Patreon subscribers.Topics: --Atmosphere at Camp Nou--Is Koeman right?--Awesome Araujo--Rik's ratings--Andrea Pirlo--Will Ronald last the week?For more pods and the chance to win an Ansu Fati No 10 shirt, sign up at: https://www.patreon.com/siemprepod
Grab a bowl because the boys have a big ole pot of analysis for ya after Real Madrid win a fantastic back and forth game at the death in Milan against the Italian champions (40:01), and Payton tries to take some silver lining from his teams' capitulation in the Nou Camp to the unstoppable Bavarians (5:13). Also, Mark gives his predictions for Real Madrid's match this Sunday against Valencia in the infamous Mestalla (1:07:26), and Payton has revenge on the mind as Barcelona face Granada, the side who knocked them out of title contention in La Liga last year (1:11:53).
Theatermaker, meesterinterviewer, schrijver, columnist, jazz-kenner, programmamaker... Wilfried de Jong is het allemaal en ook nog eens op topniveau. Een carrière waar Ernst-Jan jaloers op is en dus probeert hij te achterhalen hoe Wilfried het allemaal flikt. In de kleedkamer van Het Nieuwe Luxor theater in Rotterdam ontrafelt Ernst-Jan de formule De Jong terwijl de alleskunner vertelt over zijn twijfelachtige twintiger jaren, stoppen op het goede moment en een waanzinnig verhaal over hoe hij het leger ontsnapte.
Jay Jr. in studio, Hrabe on the Comrex, we can't be stopped. Pick 6 controversy. Prod Joe claims that Iggy's teasers are invalid. Iggy retaliates. Confusion on Iggy's part. Joe not pleased. Cardinals with a big victory over the Mets last night. Cards with a game and a half lead for the 2nd wildcard. Sosa and DeJong.
KMOX Golf expert Dan Reardon joins the show talking about the Ascension Charity Classic. Cardinals President of Baseball Operations John Mozeliak provides updates on Flaherty and Hudson plus importance of DeJong to swing a good bat. Finally, NFL picks with Lauren Lovett. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Listen to a hope-filled message from Ps Paul de Jong and guests, as we explore our true identity and how we can overcome insecurity daily. _ To find out more about LIFENZ, visit us at lifenz.org
It's international break, but Siempre Pod isn't stopping. In fact, we're growing. Our Patreon has launched and you can get a lot of extra content there, as well as this free weekly pod. https://www.patreon.com/siemprepodThis week Sam, Rik and Toni discuss the various news stories in the Barçaverse. From Pjanic's departure to Emerson's issue with Laporta, Kun Aguero speaking to Ibai Lanos and Pique going surfing in Cantabria, there's always stuff to talk about, even when there's no football on.Rik also speaks to Dutch football expert James Rowe about Luuk de Jong's arrival. (See Patreon for the full interview on Koeman, Memphis, Frenkie, Dest and more).James's work can be found at The Secret Footballer, here: https://www.secretfootballer.com/archive?utm_source=menu-dropdown
Listen to a hope-filled message from Ps Paul de Jong and guests, as we explore our true identity and what we can do to isolate insecurity. _ To find out more about LIFENZ, visit us at lifenz.org
On episode 284, Dan and Levon discuss the successes and failures of the transfer window. They talk Luuk de Jong, the sacrifice of losing Messi and Griezmann, Ansu Fati getting the 10 shirt, and much more! Running Order: Is the 10 too much pressure for Ansu Fati? Will Luuk de Jong fit at Barcelona? Will this be the worst transfer window ever for the club? Is Koeman still the right man for this job? Listen on Apple Podcasts iOS App, Spotify and, if you want to support the show, head over to Patreon for more content! Become a Patreon to support the show and check out our Quick Take Match Reviews – Thank you! Access our exclusive, listeners-only Facebook Group here. Follow us on Instagram! Find us and watch exclusive content on YouTube! Click here to subscribe via Apple Podcasts Click here to subscribe via Spotify We are excited to partner with Fanatiz! Use this link to sign up: https://bit.ly/2YAHuDd Submit your Blue Wire Hustle application here: http://bwhustle.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Der Deadline-Day brachte noch einige brisante Erkenntisse ans Licht, z.B. über die aktuelle Situation des FC Barcelona. Hertha BSC blamiert sich derweil, was Yannik und Matze bereits gestern ahnten und Hansi Flicks Debut steht genauso an wie der zweite Spieltach der Frauen Bundesliga! Reingegrätscht, das News-Update des SPIELTACH, serviert euch jeden Mittwoch die frischesten Fußballnachrichten der Woche, leicht verdaulich für die Ohren. Shownotes: https://linktr.ee/spieltach
In de dagelijkse podcast van FC Afkicken bespreken Neal en Bruce op woensdag 1 september onder meer de nasleep van Transfer Deadline Day, de eerste interland in het tijdperk Van Gaal III en het emotionele verhaal van Ridgeciano Haps.0:00 Intro en recap Transfer Deadline Day15:05 Emotioneel verhaal en transfer Haps17:44 Winnaar/verliezer Transfermarkt18:40 Tijdperk Louis van Gaal III van startZie het privacybeleid op https://art19.com/privacy en de privacyverklaring van Californië op https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
The BarcaBreakdown discuss, in a turn of events, after two years at FC Barcelona, Antoine Greizmann returned to Atletico Madrid. This comes at the final window of the transfer window on 31 Aug 2021. Barca agreed to release Greizmann on loan for $10 Million and an obligation to buy for $40 Million. We discuss what this means for the team and our initial reactions to this news. Ultimately, Barcelona's financial troubles and disastrous leadership of Bartomeu have plagued the team resulting in some very surprising news. At the end of the day, Laporta has been losing our trust as we question his election promises and where we are today. Greizmann will join the 2019-2020 La Liga Champions with Luis Suarez in an attempt to take the title 2 years in a row. Another Dutchman arrives at FC Barcelona from Sevilla, Luuk De Jong. Barca will cover his wages with an option to buy. This comes when we lose Greizmann and still have a roster of attackers on injury including Augero, Dembele, and not yet to return to live play, Fati. Lastly, we had Ilaix Moriba and Emerson depart and signed to RB Leipzig and Tottenham Hotspurs, respectively. Ilaix has been on his way out and will be leaving for $15 Million. Emerson only being at the club for 2 months comes at a surprise as Laporta had stated “Emerson will stay for many years”. The summer transfer window has come to an end, again leaving Barca and the fans wondering, what will happen next? Please like, comment and subscribe to our channel! Twitter: https://twitter.com/BarcaBreakdown Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/barcabreakdown Listen to our podcast on Spotify or Apple/Itunes Podcast. Please support the Barca Breakdown and subscribe to our channel and like our videos. Please let us know in the comments what type of content you want to see more of!
The transfer window is closed! Sam, Rik and Toni analyse Barcelona's final day in the market as Antoine Griezmann returns to Atletico Madrid and Luuk de Jong joins from Sevilla. Others to leave Camp Nou on a busy day were Emerson, Ilaix Moriba and Rey Manaj. Running order:--Goodbye Antoine Griezmann --What does Luuk de Jong bring? --Emerson, Ilaix & Manaj out --Assessing Deadline Day--Barça transfer window rated --How did Laporta do? --Ansu Fati handed the No.10 --Evaluating Barça's chances in 21-22
I discuss all of the day's biggest deals including Anguissa to Napoli, Lookman to Leicester, Tomiyasu to Arsenal, Griezmann to Barcelona, Zaccagni to Lazio, de Jong to Barcelona, Saul to Atletico Madrid, Emerson to Spurs, Camavinga to Real Madrid, Nuno Mendes to PSG and many others. Timestamps 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:05 Anguissa to Napoli 00:06:37 Lyon Miss Azmoun, Sign Boateng 00:13:40 Lookman to Leciester 00:18:54 Nuno Mendes to PSG 00:27:18 Tomiyasu to Arsenal 00:31:21 Saul to Chelsea 00:37:14 Marmoush + Faghir to Stuttgart 00:43:35 De Jong to Barca + Griezmann to Atleti (Part 1) 00:52:34 Adli to Milan 00:53:42 Zaccagni to Lazio 00:56:45 Vinicius to PSV 00:58:20 Camavinga to Real 01:03:56 Kalimuendo to Lens 01:05:39 Griezmann to Atleti (Part 2) 01:14:16 Edouard to Palace 01:20:26 Bellerin to Real Betis 01:21:30 Maitland-Niles Stays + Arteta Relationship 01:24:48 Emerson In, Aurier Out, No Striker for Spurs 01:28:49 Teams Who Won the Summer To receive access to bonus episodes & support the show, visit: patreon.com/statesideabroad Check us out on YouTube for video podcasts, clips & other videos: youtube.com/c/statesideabroadpodcast & youtube.com/c/SAWorldFootball & youtube.com/c/statesideabroadclips --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/statesideabroad/support
Estrenamos formato con esta edición más corta de paquetes en la que queremos centrarnos en la actualidad futbolera. En este caso en el cierre del mercado de fichajes y en las operaciones que se han hecho a última hora. Especialmente ese traspaso a tres bandas con cesiones incluidas de Saúl, Griezmann y De Jong. Pero lo que más queremos saber es cómo está Iñaki que ha pasado de la MSN a la MLB, Memphis, Luuk De Jong y Braithwaite.
2:00 - The toxic relationship that keeps pulling you back in 2:15 - Can Jon Lester still be a big-time pitcher? 2:30 - Vladi alert! 2:45 - What's Trending? 3:00 - Would you be leery of trading DeJong because of others' success? 3:15 - The Jeff Albert blame game. Is it fair? 3:30 - What the hell is happening with Bishop Sycamore? 3:45 - Starting pitching is the key to success for the Cardinals bullpen 4:00 - The Gauntlet 4:15 - Sept. 1 call-ups. How will the Cardinals approach it? 4:30 - Cam is out. Are the Patriots a real contender now? 4:45 - What areas HAVE to change for the Blues? 5:00 - Top 5 at 5 5:15 - The Cardinals and Jamie are having an up-and-down relationship 5:30 - Sports Six Pack 5:45 - Bet the Board
On episode 283, Dan and Emile discuss a busy, rumor-filled deadline day amidst tons of breaking news. Things could be different by the time you hear this, but they talk Griezmann to Atleti, Luuk de Jong, Ilaix Moriba, Emerson, Barça B's transfer policy, Riqui Puig, and much more! Running Order: Who won the Ilaix Moriba saga? Why is Griezmann being linked to (or going to Atleti)? Should Puig have gone out on loan? Is Koeman now out of his depth with his squad? Listen on Apple Podcasts iOS App, Spotify and, if you want to support the show, head over to Patreon for more content! Become a Patreon to support the show and check out our Quick Take Match Reviews – Thank you! Access our exclusive, listeners-only Facebook Group here. Follow us on Instagram! Find us and watch exclusive content on YouTube! Click here to subscribe via Apple Podcasts Click here to subscribe via Spotify We are excited to partner with Fanatiz! Use this link to sign up: https://bit.ly/2YAHuDd Submit your Blue Wire Hustle application here: http://bwhustle.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
O El Rondo #57 chega com a reta final da janela de transferências em LaLiga. A começar por Edouard Camavinga no Real Madrid por 30 milhões de euros. No Barcelona, a saída de Emerson, Frenkie De Jong assumindo o protagonismo da equipe e Griezmann sem desculpas pelo mal momento. Além disso, o episódio fala sobre o momento de Carlos Soler no Valencia e a recuperação de Gonçalo Guedes; a junção dos dois maiores talentos asiáticos no Mallorca com Kubo e Kang-In Lee; Por fim, a importância dos extremos do Osasuna. Artes: Filipe Borin Edição: Bruno Abichéquer Assine o Footure Club e tenha descontos em nossa loja e cursos: https://club.footure.com.br/ #PenseOJogo
33:41 clean full Hillsong Church South AfricaHillsong Church South AfricaThank you for joining us for another great podcast today! Here you'll find many encouraging and challenging messages to help you build a life of significance! Keep coming back to listen to all the latest messages from Hillsong Church South Africa. We would love for you to rate our podcast, subscribe, perhaps write a review and share the channel with all your friends to help us build a Church that Builds a nation.https://hillsongs
Deze aflevering had evenzo kunnen heten:1: De Derde Wet van De Jong - ik wil best overal heen zolang er maar goede koffie is2: Meer dan je wilt weten over Zoutkamp3: Gratis advies voor Hannekes boek4: Irene Moors en het raadsel van het Gelderse kasteel waar Alex de naam niet meer precies van weet )te lang eigenlijk voor dew titel)5: Hanneke en de mysterieuze ontmoeting in de binnenspeeltuin6: Alma ontmoet schommel7: Waarom Nynke woest is op Astrid Joosten8: Scheve pony's in de Duitse disco.9: Bouwen Bouwuh BouuuuuwwwwuuuhhhhhWat is je favoriete titel? Vertel het op onze Vriend van de Show!Dank aan Auto.nl voor de Gezinswagen van de Show. En veel dank aan al onze Vrienden van de Show! Zie www.vriendvandeshow.nl/ikkeniemanddie. Volgende week zijn we er weer!Post? Stuur het naar firstname.lastname@example.org!Groet!Zie het privacybeleid op https://art19.com/privacy en de privacyverklaring van Californië op https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
De Skiete Willy Podcast is dé podcast over PSV! Björn van der Doelen (De Parel) is nog altijd op vakantie, dus mag clubwatcher Marco Timmer deze week op bezoek bij Arnold Bruggink in Enschede. Met hem gaat het o.a. over de uitschakeling in de Champions League, het bijtekenen van Madueke en welke spelers PSV nog moet halen. Marco droomt hardop: 'Arias, Kampl en Luuk de Jong!' See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In this episode I speak to Martin de Jong of the Netherlands, also known as the klewang fencer. We talk about the history of the weapon and its use in the former Dutch colonies, and about his upcoming book. The episodes recorded 25 August 2021
Wat niet te doen met krentenbaard? Alex wist het, Anne nog niet. Wat een ellende is dat zeg. Verder laat deze aflevering het best opsommen als: van Puddy tot Sartre, van Huisgenoot Jos tot Scheurbuik Max, van WimLex tot Henry Schut. En alles over onze spin-off: Ik Ken Iemand Dieet! (en waarom Hanneke klaarkwam van een tosti).Dank aan Auto.nl voor de Gezinswagen van de Show. En veel dank aan al onze Vrienden van de Show! Zie www.vriendvandeshow.nl/ikkeniemanddie. Volgende week zijn we er weer!Post? Stuur het naar email@example.com!Groet! Zie het privacybeleid op https://art19.com/privacy en de privacyverklaring van Californië op https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Cardinals Manager Mike Shildt joins Tom Ackerman going through the five game winning streak. Updates on DeJong and Mikolas and a memorable play of the week. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Brenden Schaeffer breaks down JA Happ's solid outing as he earns his first Cardinals win. Edman and DeJong go deep to show a little more of what the team would like to see from its two middle infield regulars down the stretch--plate production. Could a little run be in the cards for STL as the August schedule continues to shine favorably upon the team? --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/bschaeffer12/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/bschaeffer12/support
Retired Super Model turned Author, Coach, and Podcast host, Jill de Jong, joins us from Maui to share her journey of going from a life of glitz and glam, to a life of awakening people to their soul's purpose. Today Jill helps people physically and emotionally heal through several different modalities that encompasses the mind, body, and soul. Jill is one of the most down to earth people I've ever had the pleasure of interviewing; her confidence in herself is contagious. She is Author of the popular book 'Models do Eat' where she, along with other models, share their key to remaining grounded and holistically healthy while working in the industry. Join us for an enlightening conversation from an area of life you wouldn't usually associate with Spirituality! Jill de Jong was born in Holland and pursued a successful modeling career in the States. After making the career shift from full-time modeling to health coach, personal trainer and author, she's never looked back. She currently lives and works from her home in Maui with her husband. When Jill isn't working you can find her in the ocean, doing water sports and loves going on adventures with her badass friends. Meaningful conversations and delicious food make her heart sing. www.jilldejong.com Instagram: @_modelsdoeat ***Interested in the IIN program? Visit www.lightworkers-lounge.com or click here. Remember to mention Lightworkers Lounge or Stephanie Powers to receive a deep discount off the price of tuition! Intro song: The Light - Sol Rising. Feels - Kiiara *Check him out on Instagram, @solrising Outro song: The Light - Sol Rising *All Songs Featured in Lightworkers Lounge can be found on our Spotify Playlist!
Join us for a hope-filled message from Ps Maree de Jong, as we continue our Assembly Required series and explore how we can build strong, healthy relationships. To find out more about LIFE, visit lifenz.org
Bernadette discusses renovation style with Deborah de Jong, a powerhouse with an incredible story, who started to be engaged in different talks and presentations, like Interior Design, How to Design On a Budget, How to Decorate on a Great Budget and How to Do Things Effectively and many more. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: [01:41] Get To Know More About The Incredible Deborah [5:50] Deborah On Choosing Her Interior Path [7:42] Why People Do Well In Life [9:20] DNA Behaviour Process [12:00] DNA Style As The Design Identity [14:04] Partnership with a Social Enterprise [19:19] The powerful impact of colour, texture and general interiors on renovation style [23:27] Importance Of Your Unique Renovation Style [27:18] Biophilia: What should renovators know? [30:37] Women in Renovation Expo Coming up [36:00] Ask Bernadette
Join us for a hope-filled message from Ps Paul de Jong, as we countine our Assmebly Required series and explore how we can build strong, healthy relationships. To find out more about LIFE, visit lifenz.org
Join us for another hope-filled message from Ps Luke de Jong, as we continue our Assembly Required series and explore how we can build strong, healthy relationships. To find out more about LIFE, visit lifenz.org
In this episode, Perrin will discuss the UNC coal plant and why we should be more alarmed about the lack of action being taken to remove it or at least reduce the emissions. Coal plants are not just an issue contributing to the climate crisis but also to public health and endangered species. And Perrin works as an attorney on these matters in North Carolina. Coal contains trace amounts of naturally occurring radioactive elements. This means some coal plants emit more radiation than a nuclear power plant and can cause acid rain, affecting our plants and wildlife. Perrin also goes into depth about the personal health complications he had from growing up near a coal power plant. With its abundance and inexpensive tendencies, coal has been one of the United States' leading energy resources. However, the air pollution and water pollution alone have counteracted these benefits, not to mention the inhabitants, waste, mining destruction, and significant contribution to greenhouse gases in our atmosphere. It's up to us to put pressure on these coal plants, legislators, and energy companies to put a stop to coal power. Contact and connect with Perrin: PdeJong@biologicaldiversity.org Center for Biological Diversity: https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/about/staff/ Follow BREDL's Instagram: BREDL_HQ
Join us for another hope-filled message from Ps Paul de Jong, as we kick off our new series, Assembly Required, and explore how we can build strong, healthy relationships. To find out more about LIFE, visit lifenz.org
This week on Meeting Minds we chat with the Vice President of Integrated Marketing Communications at E.L.F. BEAUTY, Patrick O'Keefe and CEO of LDJ Production, Laurie Dejong! We talk about brand storytelling, ways to wow your attendees, and how to make your company's 'boring' meetings shine. Listen now to learn all about it!
Did you know that stress, ego, and fear play a part in the energy boost of your early morning coffee? Surely, an entrepreneur has developed another way to naturally boost energy? Of course, they have.Natasha de Jong joins Niko on this week's podcast. Natasha is an entrepreneur who founded multiple companies, both with the outlook to change stress, addiction and create positive mental health.Predator Endurance is the company providing the healthiest performance drink in the world (use instead of your flat white), and Earth Resonance is the micro-dosing company that facilitates you changing your patterns as well as enhancing your creativity.Listen to the podcast for how Natasha came to found the companies, and balance healthy meditation, and why we should use our wallets as a vote to support healthy and change-making products.Looking to level up or enter a new field? Join TOA Klub for cohort-based learning. Four Klubs to chose from, each including Masterclasses, AMA's, and peer-to-peer learning. Apply now: go.toaklub.com/285313Subscribe to our NL (https://bit.ly/3xpBX2s), follow us on Instagram (@toaberlin), Twitter (@toaberlin), Linkedin (toa-berlin) and Facebook (TechOpenAir).Support the show (https://paypal.me/TechOpenGmbH?locale.x=en_US)
Tania de Jong is an inspiring woman on the path of helping others to heal. Leaving a trail of positive change and innovation wherever she sets her philanthropic vision, her most recent contribution; Alleviating the mental health crisis in Australia and eventually worldwide, is a breath of hope and fresh air. Two years ago, Tania and her husband founded the organisation Mind Medicine Australia; A charity focused on reducing the ongoing suffering caused by mental illness through effective psychedelic-assisted treatments such as medicinal psilocybin within safe clinical environments. The long-term goal: Making Psychedelic Assisted Therapies an intrinsic part of Australia's Mental Health System, significant improvement in mental health statistics, and accessibility for everyone. With the mounting pressures of life compounded by global lockdowns and their ripple effects, the current mental health crisis continues to grow, with treatments (predominantly pharmaceutical) nowhere near as effective as they could be. Before entering into a sound understanding of this topic, it's essential to know that the history of research and clinical trials for psychedelic medicines is shrouded in propaganda, censorship, and half-truths. Fueled by Nixon's War On Drugs campaign in the '50s and '60s, clinical trials and the progression in this area of medical science were brought to an abrupt halt, but as the nature of truth goes, it finds a way, somehow. Enter Mind Medicine Australia; A charity organisation that funds clinical psychedelic research conducted by independent associations and affiliates, set to change the face of Mental Illness. Tune in for this epic conversation as Mase and Tania discuss the future of healing and Psychedelic Assisted Therapies. "Current existing treatments aren't working for the majority of patients, and they're not working for doctors either because doctors are not getting their patients well, which in turn affects everyone. It affects people's families, workplaces, the community, and it really becomes a problem where lots of people aren't functioning at their optimal potential". -Tania de Jong Mase and Tania discuss: Holotropic Breathwork. The mental illness pandemic. Psychedelic Assisted Therapies. The screening process of patients. Decentralised use of psychedelics. Nixon's War On Drugs and propaganda. Federal/State legislation and accessibility. TGA-Special Access schemes and pathways. Qualifications needed to become a trained therapist. Making Psychedelic Assisted Therapies accessible to all Australians. Who is Tania De Jong? Tania de Jong AM is one of Australia's most successful female entrepreneurs, performers, and innovators, having developed 6 businesses and 3 charities over 3 decades. Tania works across the public, private, creative, and social sectors. She founded Creativity Australia, Creative Universe, MTA Entertainment & Events, The Song Room, and works with disadvantaged communities nationally through Creativity Australia's ‘With One Voice' choir social inclusion programs. She has recently co-founded Mind Medicine Australia with her husband Peter Hunt AM. Mind Medicine Australia exists to help alleviate the suffering caused by mental illness in Australia through expanding the treatment options available to medical practitioners and their patients. MMA is establishing safe and effective psychedelic-assisted treatments to treat a range of mental illnesses. Tania presents keynote speeches and leadership programs and performs internationally as a soloist and with her group Pot-Pourri. She has released twelve albums, including new solo releases The Breezes at Dawn Have Secrets to Tell and Solitary Harmony. Tania's TED Talk How Singing Together Changes The Brain has been viewed over 110,000 times and sparked international interest. She is the Founder and Executive Producer of Creative Innovation Global, winning national and international awards. Creative Universe and Creative Innovation Global were ranked among the top 20 event organizers and agencies globally as part of the newly released Eventex All-Stars Index. Tania has founded a co-working space called Dimension5 in Melbourne to drive social innovation and collaboration. Tania's awards include Ernst and Young Australian Social Entrepreneur of the Year. She was inducted into the AGSE Entrepreneurs Hall of Fame at Swinburne University and named Brainlink Woman of Achievement. Tania was recently named in the 100 Women of Influence, and the 100 Australian Most Influential Entrepreneurs in Australia and recently was honoured with the Award for Meritorious Service to the Community in the Victorian Multicultural Awards for Excellence. She was appointed a Member of the Order of Australia in June 2008 for service to the Arts as a performer and entrepreneur, and for the establishment and development of music and arts enrichment programmes for schools and communities. Tania has a Bachelor of Law (Honours) from the University of Melbourne and is a graduate of Victorian College Of The Arts, in opera, music theatre, and voice. Tania's grandmother invented the foldable umbrella in Vienna in 1929, so it's not surprising innovation is in her blood. Her mission is to change the world, one voice at a time! CLICK HERE TO LISTEN ON APPLE PODCAST Resources: Mind Medicine Australia Tania de Jong's website Tania de Jong Facebook Creative Universe website Creativity Australia website Tania de Jong TED Talk-How Singing Together Changes The Brain Q: How Can I Support The SuperFeast Podcast? A: Tell all your friends and family and share online! We'd also love it if you could subscribe and review this podcast on iTunes. Or check us out on Stitcher :)! Plus we're on Spotify! Check Out The Transcript Here: Mason: (00:00) TanIa, thanks so much for coming on with me. Tania de Jong: (00:06) It's a pleasure, Mason. Mason: (00:08) Absolutely love your work. Have been hearing about Mine Medicine Australia for a long time and then all of a sudden, my friend around here who's a doctor is going down and doing your practitioner courses to learn more about offering... Well at the moment, I'd like to learn about your offerings because psychedelics are in this weird, gooey time where they're really been accepted and they're still not allowed to be used in therapy yet but you guys are training people up and I believe using some holotropic breathwork in some workshops. My therapist actually just got back from two weeks of doing training with you guys. Tania de Jong: (00:46) Oh, who was that? Mason: (00:46) Patrick. Tania de Jong: (00:47) Patrick Benett. Mason: (00:50) Patrick Bennett, yeah that's it. Tania de Jong: (00:51) Did he enjoy it? Mason: (00:52) Absolutely loved it. Tania de Jong: (00:54) That's good. Mason: (00:55) But that was a funny one, I was like, he's benching and I'm like, "Oh, with Tania? And he's like, "Yeah, Tania. How do you know?" I was like, "Well, our lines are coming together right now." So it's really, the synchronicities that are coming about, the synapsis are happening. It's all coming to fruition at a time when the mental health crisis has just been screaming everyone in the face all over the world with all the lockdowns and everything. Tania de Jong: (01:24) Definitely. Mason: (01:25) So how are you guys feeling at the moment? Are you just like, you've been doing it for so long, but do you feel that pickup of energy around this style of therapy and medicine? Tania de Jong: (01:37) There's just so much interest in the space and it's almost like when we started the charity just over two years ago there was... There's never been an enormous amount of pushback, I've got to say. I think that people recognise that the mental health crisis that we're having and it's getting worse is something that we've not found a solution for yet. And that the current existing treatments are not working for the majority of patients and therefore they're not working for doctors either because doctors are not getting their patients well and then that affects everyone. That affects people's families, their workplaces, the community and it really becomes a problem that a lot of people are not functioning at their optimal potential. Tania de Jong: (02:31) So I think that what we're seeing is the fact that this is personal for everyone. So whether you're a politician, you're a psychiatrist, a business leader, a mom or dad, whoever you are, you're going to know people. If it's not you, then it's going to be someone close to you who's suffering with a mental illness. So now when we speak about these medicines, there's been so much positive and supportive media about them now for at least a couple of years in Australia, certainly and it's getting more so. And we're starting to see quite a lot of conservative programmes and media really providing support for opinion pieces, for articles and these treatments are becoming much more part of a mainstream conversation than they were before. It's no longer on the fringe. It's not just some experimental hippies up in Byron Bay who are doing these medicines. This is about everyone and this is about giving everyone a chance to lead a meaningful, fulfilling and happy life. Tania de Jong: (03:49) And if we want that for our children and our moms and our dads and for everyone in our communities and workplaces, then we need to accept that the current treatments don't work for the majority and that there are actually treatments, these psychedelic assisted therapies, that actually do heal an enormous amount of people. And if you look at that statistically, what you're seeing is a maximum of 30 to 35% of patients getting well through current existing treatments for depression and about 5% for PTSD. So it's incredible when you think of how many people are not getting well, who are either the staying stuck in the system, taking daily medications that have multiple side effects that often just numb them out and never get to the root cause of their distress or they drop out of the system altogether and take their chances and for many people that can be a slippery slope and can lead to suicide and other issues as well. Tania de Jong: (04:57) So as Ramdas said, "We're all walking each other home." I love that phrase. We all need to reach out ahead and we need to help educate the community about these medicines so that we focus on the science and data and not the prejudice and stigma that has been attached to them for 50 years and far too long. It's a lost 50 years where we've seen this major increase in loneliness, social isolation, disconnection, depression and other mental illnesses. Tania de Jong: (05:32) Many of which would have been avoidable if these medicines had continued to be used in clinical environments, which they were being used for over 50000 patients in the '50s and '60s and if the research had continued. So when Nixon had his war on drugs in 1970, effectively did stop all research for a long time, for a good 30, 35 years really. And as David Nubb says, Professor David Nubb who's the head of Neuropsychopharmacology at Imperial College, he says that's worst example of censorship of medicine and science in the history of humanity. And it really is a crime against humanity to not enable people who are suffering dreadfully to have access to treatments that could help them to get better. Mason: (06:24) And as you said, Nixon came along, we had the propaganda model helping to create a beautiful stigma around something that's very effective. You can't stop something that's going to work, especially when you've got the hive mind or getting suffering so much from depression, from PTSD and it's just day-to-day sadness, as you were saying, not getting that effectiveness from pharmaceuticals. And you guys are coming forward now with such legitimacy. It's an interesting one around something where you're talking about MDMA or psilocybin or mushrooms and to see, as you said, to see people in these big organisations not even blink at the usage of MDMA in therapy is huge. You must be really proud to see that shift happening. Tania de Jong: (07:18) It is wonderful. I remember when we first started presenting, we present a lot of webinars and events to educate and build awareness in a lot of different communities ranging from psychiatric hospitals for 90 psychiatrists through to hundreds of GPs at GP events through to a range of clinics and political parties and businesses and stuff like that. And I remember the first webinar that we did at one of the clinics actually and it wasn't a psychiatric clinic, but there was some psychiatrists there and I remember that the Chief Psychiatrist of that particular clinic came up to us and he said, "Oh, you got to be joking. You're not seriously talking about healing people from depression with magic mushrooms are you? What a joke, ha ha ha," and 20 minutes later after the presentation or 30 minutes within a very short time. Tania de Jong: (08:13) It was really remarkable because he came up to us and he said, "Wow, that was extraordinary. I now understand so much more about the science and data. When could I have access to these treatments for my patients." And that's invariably what happens. We'll often walk in with a member of Parliament, state or federal, and they're generally not sceptical, actually they're quite open-minded, but it's really interesting when you start actually having MPs texting you saying, "I need to help my constituents. How can we make sure that they get access to these medicines?" And this is why we've done a lot of work with the TGA in terms of the special access scheme pathways because that is one way that doctors and psychiatrists can get approvals to treat patients with PTSD or depression, PTSD with MTMA or depression with psilocybin assisted therapy. Mason: (09:12) Have you found much more willingness with the TGA? And then in general, I don't know where you're at with being able to talk about this, but in general entering into that place where you start being on par with pharmaceutical companies and start entering into that arena, have you found that, has that process been interesting or what's going on there? Tania de Jong: (09:31) It's very interesting. It has been interesting, particularly when... We are not a pharmaceutical company. Obviously we're a charity, but it's funny how some people try and put us into the box of a pharmaceutical company because we've put in rescheduling applications, but just because we've put in rescheduling applications doesn't make us a pharmaceutical company. And our conversations with the TGA in relation to... So that there's a few conversations with the TGA. One of them is we've obviously got the rescheduling applications in. The interim submissions were negative, but then we challenged every one of the TGA's points in our opposing submissions. And now the TGA have announced an independent review, which is taking place and starting to take place over these next couple of months and that's a good sign because it shows that they want to know more. Tania de Jong: (10:30) They've asked to meet with some of the international experts, which is also really important because we've been trying to encourage them to do that for a while. But in addition to that process, the TGA has been granting special access scheme B approvals for doctors and psychiatrists and their patients who are treatment resistant. So more than 35 doctors with seriously ill patients have been granted approvals within 24 to 48 hours. Mason: (10:58) Wow. Tania de Jong: (10:59) ... to treat most patients, and that's great news from a federal level, but because we are an [inaudible 00:11:04] in Australia, unfortunately most states of Australia there are recreational use laws that prevent the medicines from being brought into the states to treat those patients who are seriously ill, except in Victoria which has a permit system, which we're currently testing at the moment. So what that effectively means is that there is no actual medical exemption in place to enable, like say if you were seriously ill and you were in New South Wales and your doctor got you an approval, he or she couldn't treat you because of these recreational use laws and there's no permit or medical exemption in place. Tania de Jong: (11:45) So what actually needs to occur is that Australia needs to have a national standardisation occur so that if TGA grants it federal approval and then that is also legitimate, three state laws and state and federal laws need to be integrated and more aligned to one another. It's a crazy situation when every different state of Australia has different laws. It's the same with euthanasia or there's any number of things that we can talk about that have different laws attached to them depending on which state you're in, but the fact of it is for all state governments out there, there's a lot of really sick people who need these treatments and it's actually unethical to withhold these treatments from people who are suffering and it's also contrary to human rights treaties and other treaties. Tania de Jong: (12:37) So I really encourage everyone who's going to watch this podcast to talk to their state members of Parliament and their federal members as well and make sure that they really help to get politicians up the curve as we do it. We do all the time and we speak to lots of politicians all the time. I always say the only way that we can really make these movements really achieve our mission of making these medicines accessible and available to all who need them regardless of financial circumstances or geography is to talk to doctor by doctor, politician by politician, member of the public by member, it's just a process of gradually educating more and more people so that psychedelics become something or psychedelic medicine and psychedelic assisted therapies are not associated with counter-culture, hippie movements and stuff like that. That they're not associated with people going crazy because that's as far from the truth as one could imagine. And they're associated with healing and wellness and they're associated with transformation in our consciousness and they're associated with a healthier planet and a healthier humanity. Mason: (14:07) It's always interesting, it starts with the counterculture and then everyone on the fringes, the early adopters and of course that's been going on for so long. Interestingly the masses weren't able to pick up as it gets to the point where what's been done in order to make it accessible to the masses, the research being put on hold because there's a war on drugs that pause happening. And now, because I'm more, I have been in that community that is more the hippie running around Byron and not very decentralised usage of psychedelics. And even with the type of herbs we do, it's a Daoist tradition that's decentralised. Mason: (14:45) Then working tightly with those that are within a structured therapeutic arena where something gets beyond someone, you can't overcome certain bouts of depression and just go beyond you doing exercise and eating right and having a good chat with a mate. It can get to the point it needs to be clinical and it's really great just to just to see that now in the psychedelic arena. Of course that's needed, of course we need the whole of society under this. Tania de Jong: (15:19) We do. And that's why Pedro and I are working so hard to develop the clinical protocols so that certain settings can be really appropriate in clinical settings. So it can still be a friendly and safe and warm room without feeling too clinical like hostile environments. So that in terms of set so that the therapists through us, certificates in psychedelic assisted therapies are really beautifully trained by some of the leading teachers in the world. And we do have some of the leading teachers in the world on the faculty for the certificate. Mason: (15:54) That's great. Tania de Jong: (15:54) As you would have seen we've got David Nann and we've got [Guble Matee 00:15:56], so many incredible, Ben [Cesse 00:16:02]. We have really all the ladies in the field, Bill Richards and all of those people who are teaching the C-PAP students as well as the wonderful people in Australia who are leading the course. Tania de Jong: (16:12) And so what that means is that by us building a pipeline of trained therapists in Australia, including rural and regional practitioners, well that will mean that gradually as more and more of these therapists get trained and the clinical protocols are set up, that more and more people will be able to actually undertake these treatments closer to home so that they don't have to travel as far, so that becomes more accessible. And we just set up an ecosystem for Australia so that anyone who needs these medicines can access them. Now obviously, these things will take time and you just have to do things one step at a time, but in two years we're pretty proud of what we've achieved. It's been hard. I would say we've pretty much worked nearly 24/7 all the time. Not just Pedro and I, but we have a team and our Board and we have our amazing advisory panel and ambassadors and then we have all of our volunteers in our chapters. Tania de Jong: (17:24) We have nearly, we have about 30 chapters, about 27 or so in Australia and about four in New Zealand and the chapters are really great. Like the one you and Byron called The Rivers. They're great because they help to educate and build awareness in local communities run events, help raise funds and that's one of the really critical things too, is the raising of funds because whilst we're philanthropists and we have some other philanthropists as well who are supporting this, all of us can contribute to this. You don't have to give a lot of money to be a philanthropist. You could donate $10 a week and two coffees and you'll be helping make sure that psychedelic medicines become available to all those who need them quicker. So we can all contribute to this mission. Mason: (18:14) Absolutely, absolutely. Seen it. Two questions, what's the qualification process like to come and become certified? Tania de Jong: (18:25) So in terms of the qualifications, that's all on our C-PAP website, but essentially people need to have a bachelor's qualification in a mental health related area and then they have to have some kind of therapeutic experience. It could be counselling, it could be GPs that are just sitting with their patients on a daily basis. And as you probably know now, the majority of GPs work is actually dealing with mental illness. But of course, the course itself teaches a lot of therapeutic skills. The course currently uses holotropic breathwork to help the students to understand what non-ordinary states feel like because not everyone on the courses use the medicine. Some have, some haven't. So they actually do get to experience non-ordinary states and a big part of the courses, helping the students, that is the medical practitioners and allied health professionals, understand how to work with patients in normal ordinary space state. Sorry, and to hold a space for them in a safe way to hold that container of space. Tania de Jong: (19:38) And then there's also obviously the screening. So how do you screen patients to make sure they're suitable? The medicinal sessions and then of course the integration is a huge part of it as well. And then of course in the course they're taught all about the molecular structures of the medicines, a lot about the history, a number of ethical issues as well, the legal frameworks and so on. So now that this first cohort has just graduated now, 46 doctors, psychiatrists, psychologists like a therapist, social workers, occupational therapists, nurses and so on. And the next intake starting in late June and it's nearly full. So we're seeing an enormous demand for this training because a lot of doctors and psychiatrists and other allied health professionals are like, "This is the future." This is the future and we're not getting our patients well. Tania de Jong: (20:37) We want to get our patients well because most people who are in the caring profession, they want to get their patients well. So we're getting an enormous amount of positivity from the students in the course who just, and the feedback from the first intake has been incredible. So many people describe the course as life-changing. For many it is a rite of passage in its own way because it's the practitioners are moving from one form of practise to being able to do other forms of practise. And they may have many, many tools in their toolbox already, but this is a pretty exciting tool to have in your toolbox. Mason: (21:28) There's a different sense when you come to this work that at this point, they'd all have the inkling of just how transformational it's going to be. Tania de Jong: (21:35) Absolutely. Mason: (21:37) And one of those things, as you said, as a clinician to know that you want to do the best for the person sitting in front of you and to watch them suffering and to know that you're in this very thin bandwidth of what you can offer them and to then that feeling? I always talk about this feeling. It's like when Harry Potter found out he was a wizard. You're like, "This can't all be it. Is this it? This is so crap and grey and boring," and then it's like, "No, actually you're a wizard and you're going to live in a castle," and you're like, "Oh my gosh, look at this other world there is. This is incredible." Tania de Jong: (22:11) That's a wonderful way of putting it. It was like peeling the onion just to keep finding more and more nuance and depth, I suppose. The multi-verse that we actually live in that many of us don't see. And one of the other really important things about the therapist's training apart from the calibre of the faculty and the teachers and the actual curriculum itself is the fact that pretty much universally everyone in this course have just got on so well and it's such a revelation for them to be working in multidisciplinary teams together. Tania de Jong: (22:50) So normally speaking, all of these professions are very siloed. Psychologists never talk to the psychiatrists, and so they're all quite separate. But to be actually in a course together and also knowing that the way that they're going to treat the patients is going to be with multidisciplinary teams. So though the doctor psychiatrist might do the initial prescribing, it might be the psychologist or the social worker for example, who sits with the patient. And so there's ways of bringing together practitioners where the patient is truly at the centre of a really caring cohort of medical professionals and health related professionals who are like, "What's the best way to look after these patients so they get the best outcome?" Mason: (23:39) [inaudible 00:23:39], "As above, so below." With the neural connections being made, the mushrooms bringing it all together. And so is an integrated system of healing, which is, it's so blatantly obvious that those silos are going to... And of course what's going to get lost? The invisible, the mental health, just like, "Oh yeah, there's nothing we can do about that." This is bringing those, filling those spaces. Before we run, I'm curious as to what's set up for the production of mushrooms? I'm assuming there's going to be, that's going to be quite you're either going to understand what dose is going to be in a capful, however it goes. Tania de Jong: (24:21) Look I suppose, what I might mention is just the four pillars of our strategy because that covers that. So we have four key strategies to build the ecosystem for Australia and the Asia Pacific. The first of them is education and awareness and we do that through screenings, events, information and education sessions for a range of different sectors. We do it through a global summit, which is taking place in November 17th to 20th in Melbourne with some of the leading researchers and doctors and scientists in the world. We do it through our chapters. So please join a chapter or start a chapter. We do it in- Mason: (25:02) How do we find our chapters? I know you've set me up, but. Tania de Jong: (25:06) So we have a wonderful website, mindmedicineaustralia.org, and there's a chapter to have on there. So it shows how to join a chapter and where you can just write to the admin hello box and we'll reply and connect you up and join the dog, so to speak. And we also do find novel research from time to time as well. And then the second pillar of our strategy is the certificate in psychedelic assisted therapy. So we've talked a lot about that and that's really creating that training, that educating, that pipeline of practitioners around Australia to make sure that as these medicines become more and more available and accessible, there's plenty of people who can work with the patients. The third strategy is our Asia Pacific centre of excellence in emerging mental health therapies. So that's really looking at applied research and development in partnership with some universities. Tania de Jong: (26:00) So looking at some of the novel areas that Australia could actually lead in and do some research in, whether it's dementia or stroke or veterans mental health or whatever it happens to be and then also looking at the manufacturing and growth of medicines, not just mushrooms, but MDMA and others. So making sure that we can create local supply sources of GMP grade medicine. Mason: (26:25) Great. Tania de Jong: (26:26) Economic modelling, so actually really mapping out what some of the cost savings could be through making these treatments available worth versus for many patients, what is a lifetime of not only taking certain medications, but also psychotherapy. So doing some cost comparisons and there has been a little bit of work like that done in the US and it was quoted recently that, I think Scientific American is quoting a study where they found that cost-savings for patients with PTSD would be in excess of a 100000 US dollars per patient, which is really significant. Tania de Jong: (27:07) So though there's an initial upfront investment because of the time and therapists involved for the therapist to sit with a patient for that length of time, for a session of, it might be between five and eight hours. Because of the amount of remission that occurs through these treatments, you're getting 60 to 80% remission rates across 160 current and recent trials. So what that means is a lot of those patients are not going to go back hopefully onto medications or need ongoing psychotherapy all the time and they're going to be able to lead meaningful lives as well. So they're going to be able to contribute back to society and the economy and so on. So yeah, so economic modelling is another thing that we're looking at doing and then of course, rolling out clinics around Australia and of course we're focused on the legal and ethical frameworks. Tania de Jong: (28:01) Hence why the TGA, the SASB pathways and we also have a psychological support service that provides support to people who are using the medicines and need some integration support for example or are thinking of using the medicines. And it's not illegal for us to have that. The bizarre thing is it's illegal to go and pick them a psilocybin mushroom, even though you can pick a poisonous one and die. So it's illegal to actually use the medicines, but if you're planning to where you have, then you can actually have, you can see a psychotherapist and we have a whole national group of psychotherapists and psychologists who support people who want some therapeutic support. We also have peer supervision groups and a whole lot of other training that helps get practitioners and also others get up the curve in understanding the medicines more. Mason: (28:57) That's huge. Your website is amazing and definitely everyone jumped on their mindmedicineaustralia.org, especially if you are in that position and it's you need some support and you've run off from on your own and gone too far down the mushroom rabbit hole. You've got some resources there, which is amazing. The summit looks incredible, we are looking forward to being there. Tania de Jong: (29:23) Looking forward to having you there, Mason. Mason: (29:23) Absolutely can't wait. Love your work and hopefully I'll see you at the end of June for those film screenings. For more details go to: https://www.superfeast.com.au/blogs/superblog/tania-de-jong-podcast
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