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The JSA are DEAD!?!?! Can the JLA foil Cary Bates and the Injustice Society's evil plans or will they be defeated as well? Will Elliot S! Maggin save his friend and get them both back to Earth-Prime? Which JSAer makes a dramatic return? Who has a surprise cameo appearance? All these questions and more will be answered this episode as David, Peter and a returning group of guest voices cover the conclusion of this thrilling two-part adventure. A big thank you to everyone who helped us out. You can find our guest podcasters with the following links - Chuck is at https://savagechuck.podbean.com/ Kelly at https://taplink.cc/presqueparisiennespodcast Kenny at https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/doctor-who---pieces-of-eighth/ and https://soundcloud.com/powerof3pod and Kirby makes regular appearances on https://stopletsteamup.libsyn.com/ You can check out Jim Beard's excellent publications on Comic Book History at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CY8Y56Z3 The official Elliot S! Maggin website is at https://elliot.maggin.com/ and you can find Elliot's latest book, LEXCORP, here http://bit.ly/3DfVL02 Email us at theearth2podcast@gmail.com Facebook www.facebook.com/theearth2podcast Instagram www.instagram.com/theearth2podcast Twitter www.twitter.com/podcast_earth2 Leave us a Voicemail at www.speakpipe.com/theearth2podcast #DCCOMICS #DCMULTIVERSE #JLA #JSA #EARTH2 #ELLIOTMAGGIN #CARYBATES
When writer Cary Bates is accidentally transported from Earth-Prime to Earth-2, only one man can rescue him.... writer Elliot S! Maggin!?!?! Join David, Peter and a returning group of guest voices as well as first time contributors Kirby Evans and JSA Jim Beard, as they cover part one of this thrilling two-part adventure. A big thank you to everyone who helped us out. You can find our guest podcasters with the following links - You can find Chuck at https://savagechuck.podbean.com/ Kelly at https://taplink.cc/presqueparisiennespodcast Kenny at https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/doctor-who---pieces-of-eighth/ and https://soundcloud.com/powerof3pod and Kirby makes regular appearances on https://stopletsteamup.libsyn.com/ You can check out Jim Beard's excellent publications on Comic Book History at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CY8Y56Z3 Email us at theearth2podcast@gmail.com Facebook www.facebook.com/theearth2podcast Instagram www.instagram.com/theearth2podcast Twitter www.twitter.com/podcast_earth2 Leave us a Voicemail at www.speakpipe.com/theearth2podcast #DCCOMICS #DCMULTIVERSE #JLA #JSA #EARTH2 #ELLIOTMAGGIN #CARYBATES
This is it! The exciting conclusion! The finale of the live script reading of the never-seen first draft of the unmade 5th Christopher Reeve Superman movie that was performed in Los Angeles on November 12th, 2024. The stage reading of the script was made with actors. The audio is presented here like an old-fashioned radio play. It stars Ray Carsillo as The Narrator, Jonathan Cahill as Clark Kent / Superman, Kenna Roubicek as Lois Lane, Jamal Henderson as Brainiac, David Pinion as Kosmo David Kocher as Jimmy Olsen / Ensemble Barry Papick as Perry White / Ensemble Veronica Warner as Lyla / Ensemble Bill Kates as Max - Dur / Ensemble and Caitlin Morris as Martha Kent / Ensemble. It was directed by Ray Carsillo and produced by Ilya Salkind, David Kocher, and Ray Carsillo.—story by Ilya Salkind, Mark Jones, and Cary Bates Screenplay by Mark Jones and Cary Bates. The story so far: Superman was “killed” in Part 1 (Episode 413) and was transported to the Bottle City of Kandor. Lois Lane, desperate to find out what happened to Superman, gets transported to the bottled city as well. Superman V was in the script stage that was drafted when Alexander and Ilya Salkind reacquired the rights to Superman. They attempted to restore the franchise to greatness by making Superman V. Salkind met with Christopher Reeve and Margot Kidder to discuss a plan to make the 5th movie, but ultimately, it was never made. Superman is created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster. Based on characters from DC. This Presentation was funded by the Kaplan-Loring Foundation. For more information on the project and history of Superman Reborn, please visit our official IMDb page at the link below. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt34615846... Please donate to the Christopher and Dana Reeve Foundation for spinal cord injury research at the link below. https://www.christopherreeve.org/.
This episode is a continuation of a live script reading performance of the never-seen first draft of the unmade 5th Christopher Reeve Superman movie that took place on November 12th, 2024. The stage reading of the script was made with actors. The audio is presented here like an old-fashioned radio play. The presentation stars Ray Carsillo as The Narrator Jonathan Cahill as Clark Kent / Superman Kenna Roubicek as Lois Lane Jamal Henderson as Brainiac David Pinion as Kosmo David Kocher as Jimmy Olsen / Ensemble Barry Papick as Perry White / Ensemble Veronica Warner as Lyla / Ensemble Bill Kates as Max - Dur / Ensemble and Caitlin Morris as Martha Kent / Ensemble. It was directed by Ray Carsillo, and produced by Ilya Salkind, David Kocher, and Ray Carsillo. Story by Ilya Salkind, Mark Jones, and Cary Bates Screenplay by Mark Jones and Cary Bates. The story so far: After Superman IV bombed, Alexander and Ilya Salkind reacquired the rights to Superman. They attempted to restore the franchise to greatness by making Superman V. Salkind met with Christopher Reeve and Margot Kidder to discuss a plan to make the 5th movie but ultimately, it was never made. After the events of Part 1, the story continues in this episode. Notably, the original script was written BEFORE the famous “Death of Superman” comic book was released in 1992. Superman is created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster. Based on characters from DC. This Presentation was funded by the Kaplan-Loring Foundation. For more information on the project and history of Superman Reborn, please visit our official IMDb page at the link below. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt34615846... Please donate to the Christopher and Dana Reeve Foundation for spinal cord injury research at the link below. https://www.christopherreeve.org/.
For the first time ever, a live script reading performance of the never-seen first draft of the unmade 5th Christopher Reeve Superman movie took place in late 2024. After Superman IV bombed, Alexander and Ilya Salkind reacquired the rights to Superman. They attempted to restore the franchise to greatness by making Superman V. Salkind met with Christopher Reeve and Margot Kidder to discuss a plan to make the 5th movie but ultimately, it was never made. Now, a staged reading of the script was made with actors. The audio is presented here like an old-fashioned radio play. The presentation stars Ray Carsillo as The Narrator Jonathan Cahill as Clark Kent / Superman Kenna Roubicek as Lois Lane Jamal Henderson as Brainiac David Pinion as Kosmo David Kocher as Jimmy Olsen / Ensemble Barry Papick as Perry White / Ensemble Veronica Warner as Lyla / Ensemble Bill Kates as Max - Dur / Ensemble and Caitlin Morris as Martha Kent / Ensemble. It was directed by Ray Carsillo, and produced by Ilya Salkind, David Kocher, and Ray Carsillo. Story by Ilya Salkind, Mark Jones, and Cary Bates Screenplay by Mark Jones and Cary Bates. Superman was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster Based on characters from DC. This Presentation was funded by the Kaplan-Loring Foundation. For more information on the project and history of Superman Reborn, please visit our official IMDb page at the link below. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt34615846... Please donate to the Christopher and Dana Reeve Foundation for spinal cord injury research at the link below. https://www.christopherreeve.org/.
Host Anthony Desiato and Superman historian Ed Gross dig into SUPERMAN REBORN, the unmade fifth Christopher Reeve film written by Cary Bates and Mark Jones (based on a story by Bates, Jones, and producer Ilya Salkind).This episode covers the long-unseen FIRST draft of the screenplay, which was performed live at The Broadwater Theater in Los Angeles on November 12, 2024, and is now available to view in its entirety HERE. It's the ultimate epilogue to the podcast's recent coverage of the Reeve film series!PLUS: Anthony speaks with the man behind the script reading, David Kocher, all about how the production came to be! David's editor: Jacob Harlow (TVandFilmPost@gmail.com).Please donate to the Christopher and Dana Reeve Foundation HERE.Ed's books: Superman: The Definitive History, Voices from Krypton, Fleischer and the Wonderful World of Oz. Visit Ed's website for more!Support the show and receive exclusive podcast content at Patreon.com/AnthonyDesiato, including the spinoff podcasts BEYOND METROPOLIS and DIGGING FOR JUSTICE!Visit BCW Supplies and use promo code FSP to save 10% on your next order of comics supplies. FACEBOOK GROUP: Digging for Kryptonite: A Superman Fan GroupFACEBOOK PAGE: @diggingforkryptonitepodINSTAGRAM: @diggingforkryptonitepodTWITTER: @diggingforkrpodEMAIL: flatsquirrelproductions@gmail.comWEBSITE: FlatSquirrelProductions.com Digging for Kryptonite is a Flat Squirrel Production. Key art by Isaiah Simmons (2020-2024 version by Gregg Schigiel). Theme music by Basic Printer.Mentioned in this episode:Hang On To Your Shorts Film FestivalFat Moose ComicsAlways Hold On To SmallvilleAw Yeah Comics
The One where Cary Bates is in the Flash comic! And Merry Xmas! Please support the show on Patreon! Every dollar helps the show! https://www.patreon.com/SignalofDoom Follow us on Twitter: @signalofdoom Dredd or Dead: @OrDredd Legion Outpost: @legionoutpost Follow Dave on Twitter: @redlantern2051
Say “I do” to this episode at The House of Franklin-Stein covering Tim Burton's modern stop-motion classic Corpse Bride! On the eve of his wedding, a doomed groom says his vows to an undead bride waiting for true love! With the voices of Johnny Depp, Helena Bonham Carter, Albert Finney, Michael Gough and Christopher Lee! From out of the comic crypt comes Superman's Girlfriend Lois Lane #108 by Cary Bates, Werner Roth and Vince Colletta! Lois is stalked by a “Spectre Suitor” who wants to be with her for all eternity…even if that means killing her! But just who is this phantom stalker? And why is Superman so grossly out of character? Subscribe via iTunes. Or Spotify.. This podcast is a proud member of the FIRE AND WATER PODCAST NETWORK Visit our WEBSITE: http://fireandwaterpodcast.com/ Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/fwpodcasts Remains of the Day by Broken Peach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjiXrpB7D-k • Like our FACEBOOK page - https://www.facebook.com/FWPodcastNetwork Like our FACEBOOK page - https://www.facebook.com/supermatespodcast Use our HASHTAG online: #FWPodcasts Email us at supermatespodcast@gmail.com Clip credits: Corpse Bride (2005) directed by Tim Burton and Mike Johnson Music by Danny Elfman Theme from Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman by Jay Gruska “The House of Franklinstein” by Terry O'Malley, of Stop Calling Me Frank https://www.facebook.com/rockSCMF
The One where Dave says Gauntlet IS his brain. Please support Signal of Doom & Legion Outpost on Patreon! Every single dollar helps the show! https://www.patreon.com/SignalofDoom Follow us on Instagram! Please like the Facebook Page! Follow us on X: @signalofdoom Dredd or Dead: @OrDredd Legion Outpost: @legionoutpost
Greg Weisman joins us to discuss romance in the City of Lights as Demona seduces Macbeth while hooking up with Goliath's clone. We talk about the return of Thailog. Elisa's heroism while Goliath fails at being any kind of parent to both Angela and Thailog. We also discuss one of the series' most infamous animation errors as we discuss Cary Bates' brilliant script. Greg Weisman also shares a tidbit about a visit from the Feature Film Division when the series was still in production. This is a good one! And we continue our march towards the 30th Anniversary Gargoyles event... Continue reading
Host Anthony Desiato digs into the Bronze Age comic book series THE NEW ADVENTURES OF SUPERBOY, which ran for 54 issues from 1980-1984, in an epic 2-part discussion! First, Anthony welcomes Jon Wilson (JON READS COMICS) to compare notes on the run by writer Cary Bates and artist Kurt Schaffenberger, which gave the Kents a far larger, more active role in their son's training and highlighted the future Superman's growing pains in a new way. Then, Rob O'Connor (ALL STAR SUPERFAN PODCAST) tags in to tackle writer Paul Kupperberg's run with Schaffenberger, which developed Superboy's supporting cast, gave Clark Kent a girlfriend, and saw Jonathan Kent in a bid for city council. They also discuss what Kupperberg had planned for the written, but unpublished, issue #55."A Superboy Fan Journey" Chapter V. Next week: SUPERMAN: THE SECRET YEARS and the final days of Pre-Crisis Superboy! Support the show and receive exclusive podcast content at Patreon.com/AnthonyDesiato, including the spinoff podcasts BEYOND METROPOLIS and DIGGING FOR JUSTICE!Visit BCW Supplies and use promo code FSP to save 10% on your next order of comics supplies. FACEBOOK GROUP: Digging for Kryptonite: A Superman Fan GroupFACEBOOK PAGE: @diggingforkryptonitepodINSTAGRAM: @diggingforkryptonitepodTWITTER: @diggingforkrpodEMAIL: flatsquirrelproductions@gmail.comWEBSITE: FlatSquirrelProductions.com Digging for Kryptonite is a Flat Squirrel Production. Key art Isaiah Simmons (2020-2024 version by Gregg Schigiel). Theme music by Basic Printer.Mentioned in this episode:Sam LimAlways Hold On To SmallvilleHang On To Your Shorts Film FestivalFat Moose ComicsAw Yeah ComicsAcme Comics
Superboy is now Superboy and the Legion of Superheroes, at least on covers. Issues 197 and 198 are the first two issues where the lead feature is our beloved Legion. They contain two amazing tales by Cary Bates and Dave Cockrum! 197 is also the first issue of Legion I remeber reading, so it is so special to me just for that. LLL #LOSH #Superboy #TimberWolf #Smallville #LanaLang #CaryBates #DaveCockrum
Ross gives you his thoughts on Superboy Volume 1 Issues 191, 193, and 195. The last three back up stories before the Legion becomes the headliner in this book. Cary Bates and Dave Cockrum's 3 stories are Legion classics #LOSH #LegionofSuperHeroes #Superboy #BrainiacFive #KarateKid #MatterEaterLad #ShrinkingViolet #DaveCockrum #ChameleonBoy #DuoDamsel #MonEl #Wildfire #ChemicalKing #PhantomGirl #ColossalBoy #ShadowLass #LightningLad
The Flash literally meets his maker this episode when writer Cary Bates finds himself on Earth-1's Central City! Join David and Peter as they cover this very Meta story from Flash 228. Don't miss it! Email us at theearth2podcast@gmail.com Facebook www.facebook.com/theearth2podcast Instagram www.instagram.com/theearth2podcast Twitter www.twitter.com/podcast_earth2 Leave us a Voicemail at www.speakpipe.com/theearth2podcast #DCComics #comics #Flash #TheFlash #Trickster #CaryBates #IrvNovick #MetaComics #GrantMorrison #EarthPrime
Crónicas Superheroicas #2.2: CARY BATES & ELLIOT S! MAGGIN: SUPERESCRITORES DE LA BRONZE AGE con Patricio López Tobares La trayectoria de Cary Bates y Elliot S! Maggin es fabulosa y su legado fundamental. Dos escritores que hicieron historia y dejaron huella. Vamos a repasar sus vidas y detenernos especialmente en su trabajo para Superman que sentó bases que llegaron hasta el día de hoy. Una apasionante y entretenido recorrido por el trabajo de dos "superescritores", ¡y a puro funk de los 70s! Pueden leer todas las Crónicas Superheroicas en Instagram o Facebook.
COMICS ROT YOUR BRAIN! is a deep dive into ‘80s comics (plus a few noteworthy exceptions).In this weekly podcast, screenwriters Chris Derrick (STAR TREK: PICARD) and Steven Bagatourian (AMERICAN GUN) discuss their favorite books, runs, and creators from the Bronze Age.In this very special ZERO EPISODE, Steven and Chris sit down and gab about the genesis of this podcast: how the team was formed and our mission!SHOW NOTES:1:05 - Why we're doing this show5:02 - Experimentation in mainstream comics in the ‘80s, specifically Jenette Kahn's extraordinary, game-changing reign as Publisher of DC Comics.6:44 - Why the ‘80s were such a halcyon period to read American comics and the importance of examining the more obscure titles from that era.9:10 - DC's much lamented horror anthology, WASTELAND, and other comics that leave a lasting mark on their audiences, regardless of commercial success.10:56 - Paul Chadwick's CONCRETE from Dark Horse Comics and other once-acclaimed works that slip between the cracks of our collective memory.12:05 - Marvel, Ron Perelman, HEROES REBORN, and the birth of the modern comics mainstream as IP farm, first and foremost.13:37 - Epic Comics, EPIC ILLUSTRATED, DREADSTAR, ALIEN LEGION, GROO THE WANDERER, AKIRA.16:00 - SKREEMER, VIGILANTE, GRENDEL, and our raison d'être. Also: Chris' love of big French words and the types of comics that inspired us.17:59 - MR. MONSTER and revisiting the indie comics of our youth to see how well they hold up (spoiler: still dope).19:43 - The list of comic books we want to cover: SCOUT, HAWKWORLD, AZTEC ACE, BROUGHT TO LIGHT, COYOTE, BWS' STORYTELLER, WISE SON: THE WHITE WOLF, THE LIGHT & DARKNESS WAR, MARS, AMERICAN FLAGG, THE SHADOW (Mike Kaluta, Howard Chaykin, Andy Helfer, Bill Sienkiewicz, Marshall Rogers, Baker).23:10 - The pre-Vertigo era, Vertigo, AMERICAN CENTURY by Chaykin, Tischman, and Laming; BLACK KISS and the transgressive works of Howard Chaykin.28:00 - Tim Vigil and David Quinn's FAUST: “If you're not offending somebody with your work, you're not doing it right.”29:52 - The difference between mainstream comics then and now — the devolution of American genre comics. IP management versus creative stewardship — the work of Steve Englehart, Cary Bates and Carmine Infantino's insane TRIAL OF THE FLASH, Ann Nocenti, JRJR, and Al Williamson's DAREDEVIL. Today, Marvel and DC Comics feel like product; back then, at their best, they were zany expression+ Visit ComicsRotYourBrain.com to get a look at some of the fantastic art discussed in our episodes!+ We appreciate your support of the show via Patreon: ComicsRotYourBrain+ Join us! Sign up for our newsletter, Letter Column, at CRYB! Check out our YouTube channel. You can also find us wherever you stream your favorite podcasts.+ Read, Subscribe to, and Support Chris's Substack - THIN ICE©2024 Comics Rot Your Brain!#comics #comic #comicbooks #comicbook #comicbookfan #comicbookfans #comicpodcast #comicspodcast #comicbookpodcast #comiccollecting #comicscollecting #comiccollector #comicscollector #comiccollection #comix #80s #bronzeagecomics #bronzeage #thebronzeage #1980s #dc #dccomics #dccomic #dcuniverse #marvel #manga #marvelcomic #marvelcomics #comiccon #indiecomics #darkhorsecomics #imagecomics #vertigocomics #eighties #comicsrotyourbrain #cryb #graphicnovel #graphicnovels #sf #scifi #sciencefiction #spaceopera #80scomics #80scomic #1980scomic #1980scomics #eightiescomics
A look back at a 2013 episode where Darren, Scott and Paul look at Superboy 201, where Wildfire joins the Legion! Cary Bates, Dave Cockrum, and Porcupine Pete! This one’s got it all!
Crónicas Superheroicas #10: Wonder Woman, las doce pruebas de la JLA. por Patricio López Tobares En 1974, llegaron grandes cambios a Wonder Woman, liderados por Julius Schwartz junto a Len Wein, Elliott S! Maggin, Cary Bates y un gran equipo. La nueva era comenzaba con una saga en la cuál Wonder Woman era monitoreada por todos los integrantes de la Justice League of America. En este episodio transitaremos los mejores momentos de esta épica historia. Pueden leer todas las Crónicas Superheroicas en Instagram o Facebook. Siempre con el aguante comiquero de Meridiana Comics. Seguinos en Instagram en @labatea_podcast, y si sos fan del programa pedinos ingreso a Discord.
Cary Bates returns to discuss “Revelations”! A film noir-ish story featuring Elisa Maza's partner, Matt Bluestone, front and center as he finally tracks down the infamous gangster, Mace Malone and, through him… the Illuminati! A variety of topics are covered, such as the show's use of the Illuminati versus modern... Continue reading
*Theme Music: Richter FM – Hibiscus* Bandcamp: https://tinyurl.com/55sw82j8 Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/mr2pmykv Apple Music: https://tinyurl.com/y7kwm3nu Soundcloud: https://tinyurl.com/2p8wyh6h YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/yh6puhwn Back in 2020, when we were all on lockdown, there was a little break where people could meet outdoors but at a distance. We took this time to have a little comic swap/mart in the driveway of That Comic Smell's home. It was one of the few times we had seen each other in person. Mike had been gifted various longboxes with A LOT of comics. They were predominantly DC titles and after we had met, had a good laugh and picked our way through them all, we went back home, read a bunch of them and discussed it over Skype. This is a little blast from the past and some things that are discussed may be long past now but it just gives us a little glimpse into a time where we were still trying our hardest to stay connected with friends and loved ones. It's also where we got free comics and showed them off! This and all the usual comics chat on… That Comic Smell! To find out where to find, listen, contact us and buy our comics then please visit thatcomicsmell.com Don't forget to Like, Share, Subscribe, Rate & Review. Most importantly… Read/Make More Comics! Thanks again for listening and supporting the podcast El Zorro (Alex Toth) The Eternals (Jack Kirby) Love and Rockets (Jaimie Hernandez) Knockout and Tigerstyle (Adam Falp, Fraser Campbell) Holly (Steven Ingram) Penned Guin: Coincidence (Alan Henderson) Machine Man (Steve Ditko) 2001 A Space Odyssey (Jack Kirby) DC Action (Various DC) Mad Magazine The Flash (William Messner Loeb, Greg LaRocque, Mark Waid) Batman #66 (Tom King, Jorge Fornes, Dave Stewart) L.E.G.I.O.N (Alan Grant, Barry Kitson) Tales of the Legion of superheroes (Paul Levitz, Steve Lightle) Atlantis Chronicles (Peter David, Esteban Maroto) Action Comics (John Byrne) Justice League #1 Silver Age Classics (Gardner Fox, Mike Sekowsky, Joe Giella, Murphy Anderson, Bernard Sachs) Superman Special (Walter Simonson) Secret Origins: Shazam (Jerry Bingham, Roy Thomas) Captain Atom (Greg Weisman, Cary Bates, Will Conrad) Elongated Man: Europe 92 (Mike Parobeck) Marvel Zombies #1 (Robert Kirkman, Sean Phillips) Team Titans (Adam Hughes) Legionnaires (Chris Sprouse) Secret Origins Annual: Teen Titans (Various Heavy hitters) Superman #487: Christmas in Suicide Slumberland (Jerry Ordway, Tom Grummett) Hawk and Dove: A babe in Toyland (Kevin McGuire) Eclipso #1 (Keith giffen, Robert Loren Fleming, Bart Sears) Eclipso: Batman (Alan Grant, John Wagner) Lobo's Christmas Special (Alan Grant, Keith Giffen) X-Men Superman: The Wedding Annual (Dan Jurgens, Karl Kesel, David Michelinie, Louise Simonson, Roger Stern) Guy Gardner Hawk World Martian Manhunter (J.M. Dematteis, Mark Badger, Bob Lappan) War of the Gods #1 (George Perez, Cynthia Martin) Wonder Woman (George Perez, Colleen Doran) Aquaman (Keith Giffen, Robert Loren Fleming, Curt Swan, Al Vey) Superman: Returns to Action Comics (George Perez, Brett Breeding) Justice League Europe (Keith Giffen, Marshall Rodgers)
This episode is a real treat for Signal listeners! We talk IN DEPTH with legendary Bronze Age Superman writer Elliot S Maggin! Dave and Rich take it back to the 70s with Elliot, we go in THE ROOM with him and Julie, we talk his Joker run, co-writing with Cary Bates, Curt Swan memories, and also Elliot's wonderful Batman in the Civil War story! Thus was an absolute pleasure to have Elliot on the show, and we hope you enjoy it! Please support the show on Patreon! Every dollar helps the show! https://www.patreon.com/SignalofDoom Follow us on Twitter: @signalofdoom Dredd or Dead: @OrDredd Legion Outpost: @legionoutpost Follow Dave on Twitter: @redlantern2051
Legendary comic book writer, Cary Bates, joins us to discuss working with Greg Weisman at DC Comics, moving over to writing television and both guests talk about crafting this Broadway solo film noir mystery story. And while discussing this Organized Crime story, both Gregs talk about their respective grandfathers' connections to the fine world of waste management. This is a fun one, folks! Available on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Amazon Audible, Spotify, and your podcatcher... Continue reading
We also pay tribute to the late Nichelle Nichols, voice of Diane Maza. Please note that this tribute was recorded at a later date than the rest of the podcast and as such we are joined by Cary Bates who you will hear more from on our upcoming discussion for “The Silver Falcon”. Available on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Amazon Audible, Spotify, and your podcatcher of choice! Follow us on Twitter at: @FromEyrieVisit Jennifer L. Anderson's... Continue reading
The lead story of 1982's Superman #372 might look a little old-fashioned next to the cutting-edge superhero storytelling of Claremont's Uncanny X-Men, Miller's Daredevil, or the Wolfman-Perez New Teen Titans, but readers raved about the brain-bending plot twist in Cary Bates and Curt Swan's "Superman's History-Changing Mission!" What did comics fans see in this seemingly illogical Superman adventure? We're going back in time 40 years (and the Man of Steel is going back a bit further still) to investigate the curious charms of the Bronze Age Pre-Crisis Superman and the writer they called "Mr. Surprise"! Also covered in this episode: The perfect drink to compliment global blackmail, more uses for super-ventrioloquism, Superman's CIA contact, and humble advice to the head honchos at NASA. PLUS: Following up from the previous episode on LJN's Uncanny X-Men video game for the NES, Justin learns that the Sega Genesis had its own X-Men adventure with a counterintuitive secret to getting to the final level.
You am not listen to this episode! Bizarro thank you! "Tuffy" joins Mike-EL & Mike-DELL for the big 150th episode! Superman must help Bizarro defeat an alien menace, in this glorious comic by Cary Bates, Curt Swan, and Dave Hunt. www.ComicBookSyndicate.com
JOIN Dave and Adam as we take a trip in the TIME MACHINE! We go back to Dave's favorite era, THE BRONZE AGE, and cover The Death of Iris West, by Cary Bates, Alex Saviuk and others! It's a good long chat as we discuss this book in DETAIL! Next episode we are doing the Grant Morrison/Mark Millar run on The Flash - but enjoy this FLASHBACK to the late 70's! Please support the show on Patreon! Every dollar helps the show! https://www.patreon.com/SignalofDoom Follow us on Twitter: @signalofdoom Dredd or Dead: @OrDredd Legion Outpost: @legionoutpost Follow Dave on Twitter: @redlantern2051
SUPERMAN III MOVIE MINUTE #26 - Superman III Movie Special Fire and Water Network All-Stars Chris Franklin and Rob Kelly are back with SUPERMAN III MOVIE MINUTE, where they analyze, scrutinize, and you'll-believe-a-man-can-fly-ize the Man of Steel's third big screen adventure starring Christopher Reeve, Richard Pryor, Annette O'Toole, and Robert Vaughn, five minutes at a time! In this special post-movie episode, Rob and Chris discuss DC Comics' SUPERMAN III MOVIE SPECIAL by Cary Bates, Curt Swan, and Sal Amenola! Check out images from this comic here! Join the conversation and find more great content: MOVIES BY MINUTES – http://moviesbyminutes.com E-MAIL: firewaterpodcast@comcast.net You can find SUPERMAN MOVIE MINUTE on these platforms: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/superman-movie-minute/id1234199776 Amazon Music Spotify Stitcher Opening theme and closing theme by John Williams. This podcast is a proud member of the FIRE AND WATER PODCAST NETWORK: Visit the Fire & Water WEBSITE: http://fireandwaterpodcast.com Follow Fire & Water on TWITTER: https://twitter.com/FWPodcasts Like our Fire & Water FACEBOOK page: https://www.facebook.com/FWPodcastNetwork Support The Fire & Water Podcast Network on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/fwpodcasts Use our HASHTAG online: #FWPodcasts Thanks for listening!
We all know that the Flash is just a character in a comic... or is he? Legendary Flash writer Cary Bates has other ideas in his first ever Flash story! Join David and Peter as they dive into Flash 179 with their usual dramatic reading, analysis and examination of reader reaction from the time. It's an absolute treat! #dccomics #flash #theflash #dcu #earthprime #carybates #julieschwartz dcmultiverse #comics #comicpodcast
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What happens when you combine two of the biggest brands of the early 1980s? You get RadioShack's TRS-80 Whiz Kids comics, with special guest stars from the DC Universe. Marvel at snarky teens sassing the Man of Steel, then laugh at how he makes them perform complex math with mediocre computers! ----more---- Episode 16 Transcript Mike: [00:00:00] I used to go into an office, and when I did that, I had a dog that everybody loved and I baked cookies every day. Hello, hello, hello, welcome to Ten Cent Takes, the podcast where we sell out as superheroes, one issue at a time. My name is Mike Thompson and I am joined by my co-host, the talk show host of terror, Jessika Frazer. Jessika: Bwahahaha! I like when you give me nicknames that are a little mischievous and/or villainous, by the way. Mike: I mean, villains are always the most fun. Jessika: They really are. They get to do all the cool shit. Mike: Yeah. You need a strong villain in order to have a good story. Jessika: Absolutely. Mike: The purpose of this podcast is to look at notable moments in comic book history. [00:01:00] They can be big or they can be small, but we always hope that they're interesting, and we like to talk about them in ways that are both fun and informative. Today, we are going to be going back back back to the eighties and talking about the time that Superman sold computers for Radio Shack. Jessika: Fucking sellout. Mike: Man, I don't. Can you blame him though? I mean, he was a reporter, like he needed the extra cash. Jessika: That's true. That does not pay all that much, from my understanding Mike: Uh, speaking as someone who worked as a journalist for a decade, I can tell you it does not. Jessika: Confirmed, everyone. Mike: Confirmed. Before you freak out and think that you've missed an episode or that things are airing out of order, we are actually still doing the Sandman book club series, but we have decided to break it up, so it's not just one giant slog for people who aren't interested in Sandman. So that way there's a little something for [00:02:00] everybody, even as we're doing that prolonged experience. So every other episode will be the Sandman book club. Before we get to that though. What is one cool thing that you have read or watched recently? Jessika: Just last night, I watched the first episode of the Amazon Prime, let me just say it's 18+, animated series, Invincible. Mike: Hmm. Jessika: Have you seen that yet? Mike: I haven't, I read the comic for a while and I really liked it, but then it just kind of felt very repetitive. And also, I didn't like how the comic got very women in refrigerator-y. Jessika: Oh, okay, fair enough. Mike: Like yeah. Um, I hear it's great. I just, it's kind of, it's kind of like The Boys where like, I read the comic and, and then when they announced they were making a TV [00:03:00] show, I went, eh don't know. I like, I'm not sure. I really want to see that translated to the screen and then it was great. And so I'm sure that Invisible will be great. Jessika: I will be talking about The Boys later, in fact. Mike: Oh okay. Well, then. Jessika: But for now, yeah, I know, spoilers. So for those of you who hadn't seen it yet, it's about a teenage boy whose father is a famous superhero and the kid himself has also potentially expected to get powers, which he, not spoiling anything, he does, and very early on in this episode. And when this happens, his father starts teaching them how to use them properly, even though he seems a little disappointed, even, that his really did have powers, which was kind of strange, but we'll see where that goes. But what I really liked about this series, is that they make fun of our well-known superheroes with a character like Batman and one that's very much like Wonder Woman, et cetera. And again, I don't want to give too much away, but the ending is [00:04:00] super intense, and I'll definitely be watching more of it tonight after we've finished recording this. Mike: Yeah. And I will say that the comic itself has moments that are shockingly intense too. And it's really interesting because there are these moments that feel very wholesome and playful, and then there are other scenes that are complete 180 and it's really, it's kind of whiplash. Jessika: That was how it felt in the show as well. So I mean, that translated definitely. Mike: Yeah, it's one thing that's actually really neat is that it's the guy who wrote the comic, Robert Kirkman, is also the guy who created the walking dead. Jessika: Hm. Mike: So, you know, dude knows how to write a hit. Jessika: Yeah.I guess so, huh. Mike: Yeah. Jessika: Well, what about you? What have you been reading or watching? Mike: You mentioned a couple of weeks ago that you had read the first issue of a series called Die, by Kieron Gillen. Jessika: Yeah. Mike: I'd heard about it. I thought it looked [00:05:00] interesting. And then you mentioning that, threw it back on my radar, and so I found the first three volumes on Hoopla and I wound up bingeing through all of them in a couple of hours. And it's really good. I really like how it matches up a bunch of D & D tropes along with other things. And I just, I really, really enjoyed it. And so I want to say thank you for putting that on my radar. Jessika: Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, absolutely. You're welcome. And I'll have to go on Hoopla and check out more myself because I'd been wanting to, I just haven't gotten around to it yet. Mike: No, shall we, uh, shall we mosey along? Jessika: Mosey let's do it. Mike: What do you remember about Radio Shack when you were growing up? Jessika: Good old Radio Shack. Radio Shack was huge, when I was growing up. It was [00:06:00] definitely a household name and it had a reputation that it carried most electronics related items that you may want or need to purchase. So just on my memory block here in particular, they used to carry a radio that was pretty easy to alter, to be a scanning radio, to use for ghost hunting. And for a while, it was a great cheap alternative to buying something made for that purpose. And it was priced really low and like affordable versus like buying something that was made for that purpose. Mike: Mm. Jessika: And I've trying to find one of those radios for years now, but honestly, it's probably a dead end at this point, and I should just pony up the money to buy actual ghost hunting equipment. I mean, honestly, I should probably, if I want it, like I'm a full ass adult, I can afford the expensive things, maybe. Mike: We have credit cards now, Jessika. Jessika: Just charge it.I say I can afford the expensive things, like I really can, which isn't actually true. Mike: All right.[00:07:00] Jessika: I can afford the mid-level things. Mike: Yeah. I dunno. We used to have money and then we got air conditioning, and we're poor now. Jessika: I'm safe. I'm squirreling it away, man. Trying to buy a house, it's expensive. Mike: Yeah. Especially where we live. Jessika: I don't recommend it. Folks. Mike: Yeah, no, just. Jessika: Just stay away. Mike: Yeah. Welcome to the Bay Area. The dystopian capitalist apocalypse. Jessika: Everything is overpriced, and on fire. Mike: We're not making this up. Everything is literally on fire these days. And, and over priced, but that's just California in general. Yeah. Well, I mean, I had a similar experience to you, in different ways, but like, you know, it was the same brand awareness of Radio Shack. I didn't realize until I was doing the research for this episode, that Radio Shack is actually a hundred years old [00:08:00] as of this year. Jessika: What? How? Mike: Yeah. It was founded in 1921 by these two brothers, Theodore and Milton Deutchman. They set up a mail order business and a single retail location that was focused on providing parts for ham radio, which was a field that was still pretty new back then. And they wound up doing pretty well for a while, but they basically were bankrupt by the early 1960s. But you know, like 40 years is not a bad run. Jessika: Yeah. Mike: And then they got acquired by the Tandy corporation in 1960 for $300,000. Up until this point, Tandy had been this leather goods company and they were looking to basically get into the business of appealing to hobbyists, which they felt Radio Shack would be able to do. So, in order to do this, Tandy basically performed a complete overhaul of the unprofitable company it had just acquired, and the Wikipedia page has a really solid [00:09:00] summary of what happened. Jessika: Tandy closed Radio Shack's unprofitable mail order business, ended credit purchases, and eliminated many top management positions eating the salespeople, merchandisers and advertisers. The number of items carried was cut from 40,000 to 2,500, as Tandy sought to identify the 20% that represents the 80% of sales and replaced Radio Shacks handful of large stores with many little holes in the wall, large numbers of rented locations, which were easier to close and reopen elsewhere if one location didn't work out. Mike: Yeah. So basically they were just going for a strategy that made Radio Shack into a much leaner, more nimble operation, which that's like the goal these days, those are kind of the golden buzzwords, but they were actually trying to do that. Charles D. Tandy, who was the guy who actually ran Tandy corporation back then, said that they were [00:10:00] basically not looking for the guy anymore, who wanted to spend his entire paycheck on the sound system, and instead they were looking for customers who wanted to save money by buying cheaper goods and then like improving them through modifications and accessories. So now they were really appealing towards nerds, and aiming at kids who are going to like work on stuff for the science fairs. And honestly it, it worked. I mean, when I was growing up Radio Shack was that store you went to, when you needed some small part a replacement, there was always one nearby. And even if they didn't have a name brand part, they usually had an off-brand version of whatever you needed. And, I never went there thinking that it was going to break the bank. It was always a fairly affordable thing. Jessika: Yeah. Agreed. I can think of like four different locations where they had a Radio Shack, just like in our area here. Mike: Yeah. And I mean, like, I grew up in San Francisco in the eighties, and they were all over the place.[00:11:00] So now, what's interesting is that the whole rise of personal computers happened to coincide with this period of success for Radio Shack. The late seventies was when personal computers with microprocessors started to actually be a thing on the consumer market, but typically if you wanted one, you had to build them from a kit. Like you, you physically had to, like, buy the kit and then assemble it, following the instructions, which, I mean, I'm not going to lie. That is terrifying to me. Jessika: That is terrifying. And it's total nerd shit too. They were right. Mike: Right. Fucking nerds. Jessika: Nerd bait. Mike: Radio Shack actually wound up introducing the TRS 80 in 1977. And it was a game changer for the company because it was one of the first pre-built computers. And it was simultaneously backed by a national retail chain. It was this super basic computer that sold for $600, which adjusting for inflation is like $2,700 nowadays. [00:12:00] Jessika: Holy shit. There's no way. There's no way the average family is like, let's get one of those right away. Mike: No, it was, I mean, you know, this was for people who were super enthusiast, or had a lot of disposable income, which the middle-class used to have back then. Jessika: Different times. Mike: The salad days. But yeah, so the TRS 80, even though it had a fairly high price point sold like hotcakes, like gangbusters. I found this book and it's called, Priming the Pump: How the TRS 80 Enthusiast Helped Spark the PC Revolution, by Teresa Welsh and David Welsh. It has this really interesting history about that point in time, which, I mean, I'm not going to lie, I was waiting for her to be really dry, but it's full of a lot of really personal stories and anecdotes and it's cool, I really dug it. Basically, when they started manufacturing this computer, they were only expecting to sell 50,000 units. There's this great quote, talking about how [00:13:00] much of a surprise the first TRS computer sales were. Jessika: Both Charles Tandy and John Roach may have been skeptical about such a large. But it turned out to be an underestimation. When the first anniversary of the products came, the company found the, had sold many more than the prediction and taken a whopping 250,000 orders for TRS eighties. Most of them still undelivered. Actually we've seen various numbers in different sources, so we can't verify this number, but they certainly sold considerably more than 50,000. Don French said they received a number of threatening phone calls from people who demanded delivery of their TRS 80 right away. Ooh! Mike: Yeah, so after this huge success, they then ended up following the TRS 80 with the TRS 80 Color in 1980. And basically the first TRS computer was kind of like a full, complete unit with a built-in monitor and everything. [00:14:00] The TRS 80 Color, in turn, was just the computer itself, and then you would plug in a color TV instead of using this built-in monitor. The TRS computers wound up selling well enough that Radio Shack really leaned hard into the computer business, and they even started offering computer camps for pre-teens in the early eighties, which was kind of an extension of that mission that they wanted to appeal to kids who wanted to excel at science fairs, because I mean, you know, those were the new nerds. So if you want to learn more about the TRS computers, by the way, there's this really great site called MatthewReadsTRS80.org. That helped me kind of learn about a lot of this stuff. I'll put it in the show notes, but it's really kind of an interesting walk-through, this particular venue of history. Anyway, this was the high point for Radio Shack, to be perfectly honest. By September of 1982, the company had more than 4,300 stores just in America and [00:15:00] more than 2,000 independent franchises and towns that were not large enough to have a company owned store. So, for comparison, there are fewer GameStops worldwide today than there were Radio Shacks in the early eighties. Jessika: Wow. Mike: Like, I realized that GameStop has been having a rough go of it lately, but there's still a lot of them around. Jessika: Yeah. Huh. Mike: And during this period of unmitigated success, that's when the Whizkid's started to show up in comic books. The early eighties were right around the time when computers were starting to get a lot of prominent, you know, quote unquote roles in media. If you're listening to this and you want to learn more, there is a site dedicated to media prominently featuring computers and storylines, and it's called Starring the Computer, that tracks stuff like this all the way back to the fifties. It's an incomplete list, but it's really interesting, and they have a whole section devoted to Tandy computers.[00:16:00] Like, I remember there was an episode of Murder, She Wrote very early on where she moves to New York and there's this whole plot about how she's gotten a computer to write her novels on. And then evidence is falsified with a modem. It's really interesting. And you know, the computer was this suddenly viable object that could play a part in people's everyday lives and could serve as a driving narrative device. But as far as I can tell the first time anyone made comics specifically focusing on educating people about personal computers was when Radio Shack started to do these comic books. And I think that's just because it was such a new thing, especially on the personal consumer market, because, you know, up until recently computers had been these huge things that took up buildings on their own. Jessika: Yeah. And they had to be, like cooled, professionally, and I mean, it was just this whole thing. Mike: Yeah. I mean, there [00:17:00] is a movie right now on Disney plus called The Computer That Wore Tennis Shoes. Jessika: Oh, yeah! Mike: A very early Kurt Russell, and it's one of those things where the whole he's in college and he winds up getting shocked, I think, and there's this whole thing, this computer gets basically downloaded into him. So he has the processing power and knowledge of this computer, but they show you the computer and it like, it is a giant monstrosity of a thing that takes up, I think, an entire lab. Jessika: It does. I remember that movie. Mike: And I mean, our phones, these days are more powerful than those. So RadioShack started making comics in 1971. They were putting out a series of educational comics called the science fair story of electronics via the Radio Shack education comic book program. But, then in 1980, they pivoted and they started giving away these new comics in stores. You could also, [00:18:00] if you were a teacher, you could send in a request to Radio Shack on school letterhead and get a free pack of 50. Jessika: Oh, wow. Mike: And yeah, like, you know, they were really pushing that hard because these comics were educational, but they were also advertisements. Jessika: Very much so. Oh, that was something I messaged you earlier, was like, wow. I was reading just an ad there, wasn't I? Mike: But, I mean, I will say they were, they were educational. Jessika: Yeah, absolutely. Mike: Yeah, so the Superman Radio Shack giveaway comics starred the aforementioned Whiz Kids, Alec and Shanna, along with their teacher Mrs. Wilson, but for the first three issues, which were published in 1980, 81 and 82, they also starred Superman and other characters from the DC Universe. Jessika: I need to correct you for a second, because you said Mrs. Wilson, and it definitely was Ms. Wilson. Mike: Oh, I'm sorry. That's right. Jessika: It was Ms. Wilson, and I think that will come into play [00:19:00] later. Mike: That is true. She did not have a ring on her finger. Jessika: She did not. She looked a little close to all the superheroes that waltzed right up in there, half naked into her classroom. Mike: I mean, can ya blame her? Jessika: No, she was hot too. Mike: Right? We're going to talk about each of these specific issues, but first up is the Computer That Saved Metropolis, which was published in July of 1980. So, even though this was a promotional giveaway, DC committed some pretty serious talent to the book. The first two issues were written by Cary Bates, who was this long-term writer for DC. He wrote a ton of action comics, Superman, and the New Adventures of Superboy, as well as being the head script writer for the live action Superboy series in the 1980s that we discussed a couple episodes back. Jessika: Totally. Mike: He also worked as a script writer for various cartoons, including Gem and Gargoyles. Jessika: Oh, hell yeah. Mike: Right. [00:20:00] But then also his name might sound familiar to some people listening to the show because we mentioned him on the New Guardians episode where, it turns out he wrote issues two through 12 of the New Guardians. The art for this issue, meanwhile, was handled by Jim Starlin and Dick Giordano. Both of them are pretty big deals too. Starlin became a big name in comics during the seventies. He garnered a lot of acclaim for his cosmic space opera stories. He co-created characters like Shang-Chi and Thanos. Giordano in turn was an artist who had recently come back to DC comics and was serving as the Batman editor at the time. He actually got promoted shortly after this to be the company's managing editor in 1981. And then he was promoted again to executive editor in 83, and then he stayed with the company until the mid nineties when he retired, after his wife died. And then, aside from being a giveaway issue, this comic actually ran as a backup story in the July, 1980 ssues for Action [00:21:00] Comics, Legion of Superheroes, House of Mystery and Superboy. So Superman schilling Radio Shack computers, and forcing children to perform complex math for him, and definitely, probably schtupping Ms. Wilson, like, I think we need to agree that, that those two totally smashed. Jessika: Oh, absolutely. And I have my theories about her and Supergirl as well. Mike: Yeah. Yeah. Jessika: They had a moment. Mike: Right? Jessika: We both took the same picture of that same shot and I sent it to you and you were like, no way. Mike: I thought that was so funny. Jessika: Don't worry, we'll post that one. Mike: I, oh God. Like, I just, that was great. It was like great minds think alike. But yeah, all of this is officially a canon part of DC comics lore, which is wild. Like [00:22:00] Jessika: It's bat shit bananas. Mike: Yeah. Now weirdly it looks like this is the only issue that actually made it into other DC comics. So, you know, the other two or their own standalone things. And aren't officially cannon, I guess. All right. How would you describe the 1980 issue? The Computers That Saved Metropolis? Jessika: Well, these were like both very advertisey and complex at the same time in their narrative, which was interesting. So, this first one, I'm going to give you a little bit of backstory about these bitches. I say these bitches, because I'm going to be talking about a whole classroom full of children. So I obviously really like children. I have a bachelor's in French and everyone's like, you should teach. And I'm like, no, I shouldn't. Mike: Oh, oh no. Let's talk about that for a sec. I majored in history my first time through college, and everyone also said I should teach. And I was like, I fucking hate [00:23:00] children. I worked at Disneyland it poisoned me again. And don't get me wrong. I have, I have two stepchildren now. I love them. I would die for them. They're great. But kids in general, not a fan. They're sociopathic little monsters. Jessika: Mm hmm. So the comic starts off with Superman doing patrols around Metropolis, and apparently he just does that. And he just jets off to a sixth grade classroom at the whim of Ms. Wilson. Mike: I have my own theory about this. Jessika: Oh my goodness. He's supposed to be a guest teacher about computers, apparently. Like, First of all, for some reason, along with his super abilities, he's also a super computer genius. And is he accredited? Like is he allowed to be teaching students? Mike: No. Okay. There, there are two things to discuss here. So you have [00:24:00] to remember that Superman from the Golden Age through the modern age was largely a weird sci-fi series where the main character was this alien who had all these powers that constantly changed. There wasn't really any editorial control until they streamlined it with Crisis on Infinite Earths. But on top of that, he was generally shown to be an amazing genius, like just whenever they needed it. But ,he built the Superman robots. He. I can't remember if he made the Phantom Zone Projector or if the Phantom Zone Projector was on artifact from Krypton, he was constantly trying to restore the city of Kandor, which was basically shrunk down to the size of a bottle, and it was a Kryptonian city, to restore it to its full size. Like in that issue of Super Boy, we read, he like put all those chemicals together and created the pools that granted the dogs, various powers. Jessika: Yeah, no, I guess you're, I guess he's always been [00:25:00] smart. Mike: Yeah. But then the other thing is that Superman is a little bit too earnest in this issue. Like, he shows up exactly on time. And then he is clearly trying to impress these kids to make a good impression with Ms. Wilson. And everything about this reeks of a dude who had a one night stand and is now desperate to hook up again. So what he's doing is he's trying to prove that A) he is reliable and B) he is good with kids. Jessika: Yep. No, that's totally how it felt. Mike: I'm not speaking from experience. Jessika: Oh, so anyway, Superman creepily knows all the students' names, I guess, because he used his x-ray vision to look at the teacher's seating chart, even though that's not how x-rays work. That's always bothered me. I'm sorry, we don't have time for this. Mike: [00:26:00] Thomas Edison would like a word. Jessika: Seriously. Also, I have to mention that the whole class was bored as fuck even after Sups flew in. And I don't know about you, but every kid I knew, wanted to know about computers and have a turn on the computer when we got them in the library at school or when someone got one at home. Mike: Oh, yeah. Jessika: So the idea that one of the kids in his class is being dismissive of the whole idea of not doing normal schoolwork and just doing computer class instead with fucking Superman of all people. It's just ridiculous. Mike: Oh yeah. And that kid actively shit talked Superman repeatedly. Jessika: Oh, he's a shit heal. Oh. And he still gets to be the fucking like, protagonist. Fuck. Mike: Oh, it was so funny. I like, my favorite was when he beats Superman at a math problem later on and like the shit talking starts immediately, and I'm like, my dude, this is possibly not a good move to irritate a guy who could literally vaporize you with a [00:27:00] glare. Jessika: That's just it. That is just it. Yeah. No. Why would you try to piss this guy off? And then Shanna's like, Ooh, Superman. You better tell him. I was like, dude, Shanna, you, you need to shut the fuck up immediately and not goad this situation. Mike: You know, that was probably the most realistic part of this entire comic, because speaking as someone that lives with an 11 year old, they are shit stirrers. Jessika: Oh my gosh. So, Supes takes the kids up to the roof because of course he does, and he proceeds to give the class some very long-winded exposition about the history of computers and their size and what they do and how they've evolved from the first computers, and moving into how they're used in society today from space travel to transistor radios, which what a time capsule of a callout. Mike: [00:28:00] Yeah. Jessika: This whole thing was a whole time capsule. Mike: Yeah. Very much is. Jessika: Of course, there was also some lovely product placement throughout and some not-so-subtle comments on affordability versus common household items. Tangent that always cracked me up to say, this computer is less expensive than a TV. Well, okay, but maybe I need a TV and I don't need a computer. They do vastly different things, or they did at that point. Mike: Yeah. Jessika: It kind of reminds me of saying like this China set costs less than a month of gross. Okay, well, I need to eat and I don't necessarily need a China set, so. Mike: Yeah, I mean, he was hard selling those kids. Jessika: Oh yeah. He was like, you should ask your parents to go out and buy you one. Mike: Yup. Jessika: So, of course, Supes hears with his super hearing a tornado and he like jets the fuck out of there. And, he defeats it by [00:29:00] blowing the wind or something like that. And then he feels all sick and shit, and comes across a villain named Major Disaster who, you know, just as his name implies, causes quote unquote natural disasters like there's floods and shit. It was a little ridiculous. Mike: Yeah, he was always kind of like a C- to D-list villain who would use weapons and equipment to make natural disasters. My knowledge of this character is hazy at best, but I think eventually he gained the ability to manipulate probability. He didn't appear a lot and he's been dead for a while, I think. Cause I remember him showing up as a zombie in Blackest Night. Jessika: Oh. Mike: But, I mean, I remember reading this stuff and I was like, this is kind of a cool, like off-the-wall villain. I dig him. You know, I certainly liked them a lot better than other villains that I've seen in Superman books where it's like, you know, generic alien warlord number five. Jessika: Seriously. Well, and when I read the name, Major Disaster, I was like, [00:30:00] same, girl. So, of course Superman needs the help of these children that he like, makes them perform these, like, high-stress situational calculations on the computer for him. Instead of like asking the adult he's banging in the room. Mike: I mean. Jessika: Honestly, come on, like, get the adults involved, like, Alec and Shanna don't need to save the day. They're supposed to be in sixth grade, even though they look way older than that. Mike: Like, yeah, they looked like kind of like eighth or ninth graders. Like they were a little bit older, it seemed. Jessika: The second one, they looked older than that, they looked like they were teenagers in the second one, for some reason, I was like, what's that? And then the third one, they got young again. And I was like, I don't know what's happening with you guys, but. Mike: Yeah. I mean, I will say that I was willing to believe that Alec was in sixth grade just because he had that awful fucking bowl haircut that like. Jessika: My brother had that. Mike: Right. Yeah. But [00:31:00] when did he stop having it? Jessika: No, no, you're right. Probably after he was like in, probably after middle school. Mike: Yeah. It's, you know, it's that thing where suddenly you realize, oh, I can go to a barber instead of having my parents cut my hair. Jessika: Oh. So the kids basically do a bunch of calculations, and they double check each other's work by doing the same calculation on two separate computers that Supes and flown in prior and just left there. Apparently. Mike: Yeah. And there's a whole thing about how Major Disaster had knocked out all the other computers in town, but he didn't know about these two personal computers because personal computers were a new thing. And that's the other reason that they're the ones who were performing the calculations and then they're on radio headsets with Superman providing this information. Jessika: I still say you're in a school that has way more adults than just the one standing in that room, and even that one's not involved. So. Mike: I mean, well, and the other thing is that the math equations that he's throwing at them are like this jet is falling out of the sky at this speed. [00:32:00] The wind is this fast. They're going at this angle. How fast do I need to go to catch them without doing damage to the plane or the people inside. And it's like, first of all, of course, yes, as you said, it's high stress, but second, like I still don't know how to do that math equation. I don't know how these sixth graders did because they looked like they were in a pretty shitty school that Superman made worse at one point when he liked tunneled up through the floor and just left a giant hole. Jessika: He was like, I'll fix that later. Mike: Sure you will, sure you will, Clark. Jessika: It's awful. Uh. So he finally of course finds the villain, defeats him, whatever. Then the kids are hailed as heroes and as a reward, I guess they get to be at a Radio Shack commercial about the computers they used. I mean, cool. I guess. Mike: Yeah. It was kind of a, a, meh ending, but, but yeah. Like, I dunno. Did you [00:33:00] like the issue overall? I'm curious. Jessika: It got really in the weeds playing up the computer aspects, which okay. I get it. You know, again, I get it. This is an advertisement, but dude, snooze fest, I put it down a few times and had to pick it back up, during those computer exposition parts. And you know, I'm slightly bothered by a vague plot line, but all in all, like it was, it was fine. Mike: Yeah. Jessika: To use your line. Mike: Yeah. I mean, reading through it, some of the computer history stuff I thought was actually pretty interesting Jessika: Yeah. Yeah. Mike: Like, when they went up on the roof and he was saying, you know, so the space that we're sending in actually is the size of what computers used to fill. And yeah, it does get a little too in the weeds because they're trying to get a little too much exposition in there at the same time. I felt like overall it walked a relatively fine line of providing action that was kind of [00:34:00] interesting. And, and the plot line of, oh, well, yeah, his powers were on the fritz because there was microscopic kryptonite particles in the tornado and he inhaled them when he was getting ready to blow it out. Like, I thought that actually was surprisingly well thought out for basically a licensed advertisement. You know, this was, this was effectively a full length version of one of those like hostess, Twinkies ads that they used to do. Jessika: Right? Mike: Yeah. But like, I didn't hate it. I found it charming. Jessika: It had its moments. Mike: Yeah. I'm not going to lie, I found the undeniable sexual attention between Superman and the kid's teacher really entertaining. Jessika: Yeah, definitely it was palpable. I thought it was even funnier too, that the kids were even, like Ms. Wilson, how do you know Superman? Mike: And she doesn't answer! Jessika: And she was like, She like side eyes.[00:35:00] How do I know Superman?…Biblically. Mike: Well, and that was the funny thing was when we were talking about this ahead of the episode, I was like, so yeah, they, they totally smashed, right? Like, like that's not up for debate. Jessika: No, it's really not. It happened. Mike: All right. let's move on to the next issue. So. Clearly, this was a successful marketing tool because in 1981, DC and Radio Shack released a brand new book that was called Victory By Computer. So this time the main story was illustrated by a couple of legendary artists. There was Curt Swan and Vince Colletta. Coletta started as an artist and anchor from the Silver Age of comics. He frequently collaborated with Jack Kirby who is known as, you know, the king of comic books, and a lot of folks considered their run on Thor to be the definitive take on the character. Kurt Swan's involvement, on the other hand, is especially noteworthy. [00:36:00] He is considered by many comic book artists to be the Superman artist. He started penciling Superman and Superboy comics in the late forties. And he didn't stop until DC put them out to pasture in the mid eighties because they were rebooting Superman via Crisis on Infinite Earths. Arlen Schumer, who's this major comic book historian, says Swan penciled over 19,000 covers and pages of interior art for Superman comics. Jessika: Whoa! Mike: Yeah. Like again, they were putting some serious talent behind these books. Jessika: They were pumping out a lot of content, to be fair. Mike: Yeah. How would you summarize Victory By Computer? Jessika: We find ourselves, yet again at the elementary school, I put in heavy quotations of kids that look like they're about 17 years old, this issue. So Shanna and smartass Alec are back at it. This time, Supergirl joins the class to [00:37:00] teach them about the pocket computer. What a fucking throwback. Mike: Like, that's something that we need to explain. Like the pocket computer was, basically kind of like a smart calculator that could perform basic functions and had a little keyboard in there. And I don't know how much they sold for, but they couldn't have been cheap. Jessika: I can't imagine so, yeah. Well, and by the way, at this point in the scene where Supergirl pulls out, her pocket computer, she pulls out of a pocket on her cape. So canonically, there are pockets in the capes. Mike: Yeah. They can't get them on the rest of their costume, but they can get them in their capes. Jessika: Which means that there's just stuff like weighing down the cape, so it shouldn't even be moving like it does. Mike: I remember in an early issue of Superman, the eighties series that John Byrne was doing, there is a bit where he stops by a balloon vendor because he's got a drone pursuing him and he winds up like [00:38:00] thinking, oh, it's lucky that I always carry a few spare dollars in like my belt buckle because he had that yellow belt back then, which side note I miss the yellow belt. I don't know if it's back, cause I haven't read any Superman comics for a while, but they got rid of it for quite some time. Like, I mean, you know, it's the Henry Cavill look now or it's the full blue suit. I miss the red trunks in the yellow belt. Jessika: Yeah. the good old days. Mike: Yeah. Jessika: So Supergirl decides to use her super powers to show the class they are able to find information on the TRS 80's as fast as she was able to find it, like physically with her super powers looking for it. And it was like, okay, sure. Mike: Yeah. Jessika: When an odd comparison, but fine. Mike: Yeah, it was really weird, there was a bit where they, like, it almost felt like they were hacking into the newsfeed of, I think the Daily Planet to get headlines, even though I'm sorry, but like, come on really, you think that a [00:39:00] print journalistic outlet is going to have top of the line technology back then come on. Jessika: No they're not putting any of that into a computer. They're still handwriting everything. Mike: Yes. I think back then they were still using, the electric typewriter that had like the built-in, it was quote unquote memory, but it was, you know, not really. Jessika: Not as we know it now, at least. And there was some definite sexual tension with Ms. Wilson at Supergirl as well. We will post the picture. Um. Mike: Right. It's this whole bit where Supergirl is like, oh, don't worry. I'm a school teacher in my secret identity. And I'm like, I don't know. Like, Are you just trying to impress her with this? What's the end goal of revealing this crucial information about your secret identity, Supergirl? Jessika: I know, right. She's just trying to connect with another human. She's like I'm also a school teacher. We should talk about it over dinner sometime. Mike: And then maybe move in together after three weeks of dating, and adopt three cats. Jessika: Oh, my gosh. So, Super girl basically [00:40:00] teaches the class and then she I'll bet she just left those fucking pocket computers too, because you know, just like Superman just left the computers there. He was like, have fun kids. Mike: Okay. Yeah, but here's the thing, like, you really think that some middle school kids or elementary school kids, however old they fucking are. You really think that they're going to sit there and try to steal the computers that the literal alien gods from other planets dropped off and taught them about? Jessika: Oh, I'm not, I'm not worried. Oh, that's funny. Yeah, no, I'm not worried about them stealing it. I'm just like Superman just apparently has like the extra spending cash that he can just like drop off two computers to a school and just like fuck off. Like really? Mike: No, I mean, I, I viewed it the other way of just like, they're like, they're not worried about it. They're like, yeah. We'll, we'll get those back. Don't worry. Jessika: Oh, so Supergirl apparently gets asked to go on [00:41:00] patrol by Superman and she spots something fishy. And so she goes to check it out, but it was a trap, of course. Mike: Yeah, but I mean, it wasn't even a very good trap. Jessika: Is a stupid trap. It was like, if you're a superhero and you happen to get curious, because you happen to be going near this location, maybe. And she like fell right into maybe a four foot by four foot hole in the ground. So I'm not really sure how that worked either. They just were like, nah, she's going to fall right here. Mike: Yeah. Like she fell through the skylight after getting hit with like a blast of red sun radiation, or whatever it is. Jessika: You know what it was, they used their TRS 80 to calculate where she was going to fall. So she gets stuck in what's basically like, it's like a lounge. It's like somebody's living room, and they have a computer there with a phone. So it's like, they weren't even trying that hard to keep her [00:42:00] there. Mike: No, it was, it was absolutely the, like what a seventies swinger house looks like in all the movies that we see now where you're just like, oh, oh, okay. Jessika: It basically had a conversation pit. Mike: Yeah. Jessika: Yeah. So of course, she remembers the phone number from Ms. Wilson's classroom. Mike: Yeah, because the rotary phone had the phone number printed on the front of it, because that was a thing that used to happen. Jessika: I feel like that's a little more explaining than she needed to give. I think she is making up for the fact that she just knows that number by heart. Mike: I was going to say, I think she really wanted to get Mrs. Wilson's phone number, and then it just happened to actually be helpful in a way other than getting her a date. Jessika: Gosh, Ms. Wilson, man. And canonically bisexual? Question mark? Mike: I don't see why not. I think we can, I think we can [00:43:00] officially declare it. Jessika: Someone's going to @ us, I hope they do. So at any rate, she gets in touch with the class. She makes them do all these weird wacky calculations, has some get in touch with Superman. And by the time Superman gets there, like she's gotten out of it because she also used the computer to find out that there were like underground tunnels. And so she's like, I'll just walk out of these tunnels. Mike: Yeah, basically it turns out it was like an old mob hide out and the students were able to look up some articles, which again, like, I don't know, because I was born in 81 and I don't have a good idea of what computer and internet adjacent technology was like back then. But they apparently look up articles about this hideout that got busted and they learned from the articles that there were underground tunnels that. Whatever, it was dumb, they don't even show her getting out. It was dumb. Jessika: No, she's just like walking out afterwards and Superman's, like, [00:44:00] oh, I was here to save you. And she's like, I just took the tunnels dude. And then like the bad guys are just, they just happened to be driving by. So they were like, well, let's just go get the bad guys. What do you think? It looks like, oh those are Lex Luther's dudes. Let's just go get the bad guys. Mike: Yeah. And there's a whole thing where like, Lex Luther has announced from jail that like Superman is going to break him out and it's a much looser plot than the first issue was. Like the first issue, there was like, I felt like a much tighter story, you know, in between the educational bits, this one, it felt like they were kind of stretching to figure out a way to connect all this stuff. Jessika: For sure. Yes. Mike: Yeah. Yeah. So I think we can safely say that this was not our favorite of three books. Jessika: No, this one was so ridiculous. I mean, I loved the heavy, heavy [00:45:00] gay overtones. Mike: I mean, when do we not love the heavy gay overtones? Come on. Jessika: It's the agenda after all: brunch for everyone. Mike: Yeah. So like, do you have any final thoughts on this, or should we move on to the last of the three books? Jessika: Ugh. That's just once mosey. Mike: Okay. All right. So 83 was when we got the final book, which is the Computer Masters of Metropolis. So, this time Paul Kupperberg wrote the script for the comic. Kupperberg, he's not exactly a household name in terms of comic books, but he is actually pretty prolific. He's written over a thousand comics during his time as a writer, including the first appearance of He-Man and then he wrote the subsequent Masters at the Universities for DC. Yeah, like, you know, so I've read some of his stuff and I didn't even realize it. Also like, this is actually my favorite factoid about him. He served as the senior editor of the Weekly World News shortly [00:46:00] before it got shut down in 2007. Jessika: What? Mike: Yeah. And like that automatically makes me like the dude, because the Weekly World News was one of my favorite things when I was in college, and because I was so good at Photoshop in high school and college, and I was interested in journalism, but I also love the weird stuff, I actually wanted to apply to the weekly world news for a job just for like a little while. And be like, yeah, like I Photoshop pictures of bat boy. Like, I really was hoping that that would be a thing, and then they shut down right after I graduated college and broke my cold black heart. Jessika: It's a damn shame. Mike: But yeah. So, meanwhile, the art was handled again by Curt Swan and then he was also assisted by Frank Chiaramonte. Chiaramonte was Swan's regular anchor on the main Superman book from 1978 to 82. And then this is one of his last books that he worked on because he died really young in January of [00:47:00] 83. He was only 40 years old. Like. Jessika: Oh. Mike: Yeah, it's really weird too. I was trying to figure out what happened and all I could find was that just, he died young. But, he was regarded pretty well and he worked on a lot of stuff. So I think if he hadn't died, he probably would've, you know, gone on to great things. But the Computer Masters of Metropolis doesn't have a publish date other than 1982, which means it came out less than a year before his death, because he died in January of 83. Jessika: Oh, dang. Mike: Yeah. All right. So what happened in the Computer Masters of Metropolis? Jessika: So, those are some lucky kids studying at whatever outskirts elementary school this is. Cause it's not in Metropolis proper, it's like in the suburbs of Metropolis somewhere. Mike: Yeah. You know, it's superhero-adjacent to the city. Jessika: Yeah. Yeah. Right. And again, not sure why Ms. Wilson seems to be on really, really [00:48:00] friendly terms with all the superheroes in the area, but Wonder Woman shows up to take them to the World's Fair, which of course is being held in Metropolis. Mike: Yeah. Which I mean, okay. Why, why not? Jessika: Exactly. Meanwhile, Lex Luther was salty about being denied entry for an exhibit for the World's Fair because the organizers didn't want to encourage his villainy. Mike: It's so good. It's so good. Jessika: And so Luther decides to try to blackmail a way in, but that didn't work. So, of course he decides the thing to do is to threaten, to like completely destroy the fair, and ultimately creates another red solar radiation trap. This time, luring Superman into a room, rigged with explosives and bathed in red solar radiation, dun, dun, dun. So once again, there are computers in the room, I think, so. So he reaches out to [00:49:00] Alec and Shanna who are told that Wonder Woman should also be at the fair and to page page her. And she's basically like, okay, why are children paging me right now? But finds out that Superman is being held at the plantarium. She lassos the whole damn building and whips it around and it somehow deactivates the red solar radiation beam? Question mark? Mike: I don't know, man, I was pretty checked out when I was reading this. Like. They reused a lot of the same stuff, too. Like the same art where they were showing the computer chip, getting threaded through the needle, the bit where the kids are all walking on the giant demo version of the TRS, Jessika: Oh, and those kids were being very nice because they acted surprised and very impressed to see that same damn exhibit for a second time. Mike: Yeah. Which previously had showed up in the last issue. And I mean, like, it was a lot more exposition this time around too. Jessika: It was. Mike: [00:50:00] Anyway, sorry. Jessika: No, not at all. So Superman escapes and they catch Luther and the day is saved. And the end scenes were particularly silly. The mayor I'm assuming goes to thank Wonder Woman for saving the day. And she's like, but also these children, who just happened to be standing on the stage, like right behind her anyway, like the mayor, just, wasn't going to say anything about those kids on the stage, too, apparently. And they had a computer on stage with them? They were like, and this is the computer, let it hold the key too. And you got to know that like both Wonder Woman and Superman have to have entire rooms dedicated to the key to Metropolis that they get every time they save some damn building or something, they're all like, chuck another one in there. No, no, no. You kids keep that one. Mike: It's fine. I've got 12 at home that are much nicer. Jessika: They're hanging on a wall around in a study. Mike: They just use them as like coat racks. Jessika: [00:51:00] So Alec and Shanna, once again, saved the day, I guess. Mike: Yeah, I mean, this was actually my least favorite of the three comics, because again, it was recycling art or, or using very similar art. It was making a lot of the same points, but it felt a lot more telling, not showing. And while I was really happy to see Lex Luther being next level petty, which, these days, you know, Lex Luther is a billionaire CEO, scientist who also has like armies of underlings performing super science for him that he's able to utilize. He's basically he is a more- Jessika: Jeff Bezos. Mike: Yeah, He is He is a, I was going to say, he's just, he's a more nakedly transparent, Jeff Bezos. Jessika: Oh, you actually were going to say that. I'm sorry. I stole that right from out from under you. Mike: [00:52:00] No. I mean like it's, I'm sorry, like Jeff Bezos exploits his workers and use the money that he got from that to take a rocket ship and play astronaut, which side note, one of my favorite things about that entire story is that NASA at the last minute redefined, I think it was NASA, redefined what constitutes the definition of an astronaut, so he couldn't get an astronaut patch or pin. An astronaut pin, I think. Jessika: Which, again, the level of petty, but this is what I need. This is what I need to see, because it can't always be fucking Lex Luther winning. Mike: Yeah. But anyway, like I really appreciated that we got to see Lex Luther being a super villain goon, like very flamboyant, flying around with his own little personal jet pack or jet boots, whatever they were like, they were like, it was like little rockets that he had attached to like his. I'm I'm struggling to remember if it was on his boots or on his waist. It was one or the other, right? Jessika: Yeah, I think it was [00:53:00] on his, I think you're right about the boots. And then he also had those fancy power gauntlets. Mike: Yeah. And I mean, the other thing is back in this era, Lex Luther actually had a couple of different costumes that he wore that were very colorful and over-the-top, and it was like green and purple. So it kind of was that, that Joker color motif again, you know, it was really striking. And so he had that outfit of kind of the purple and green spandex that we saw in this issue. But then he also had this really baller set of green power armor that he used to really make Superman's life miserable for awhile. Like I said, after 1983, Radio Shack stopped with the Superman comics, but they didn't actually stop making comics. They kept on doing these comics with the Whiz Kids, but they instead moved over to Archie comic publications. I haven't been able to find out why the partnership's stopped. There's very little actual [00:54:00] documentation about these comics outside of a bunch of articles saying, oh yeah, they happened. Like they were a thing. They were dumb. And then pretty much all I've been able to find otherwise is people selling them. Cause there's still a lot of them around. And if you're looking for a fun piece of comic book history, these aren't very expensive, even in mint condition. That said the Tandy brand was starting to fall out of popularity by 83. For some perspective, it's estimated that Tandy controlled up to 60% of the personal computer market in the late seventies, which is like an astronomical market share. However, and this is from an article by a guy named Ron White, that he wrote for a magazine called 80 Micro in 1987, and you can now find it on a site called Vintage is the New Old, and we'll put this in the show notes again, Tandy's market share was down to 25% by 86. So it's a pretty fast fall from grace. Jessika: Yeah. Mike: And then, even though Archie was publishing the comics, [00:55:00] none of the Archie characters actually showed up in any of these books with the Whiz Kids, although Radio Shack did publish Archie in the History of Electronics separately. Jessika: Oh. Mike: Like, yeah. But based on that, my guess is that Radio Shack was looking to save some cash and Archie was probably a much better deal. I'm guessing it costs a lot more to license DC superheroes than it does to just make a comic without any big name characters. Jessika: Oh, I am sure. Mike: Yeah. And then shortly after Archie took over the publication duties, the TRS computer line got rebranded to the Tandy computer. So it makes sense that the comic was rebranded from the TRS Whiz Kid's to the Tandy computer Whiz Kids. And that's actually, when I first became aware of this whole venture, because Nostalgia Alley, which is the local retro game store up in Petaluma, has a copy of one of the Tandy Whiz Kids comics on the shelf behind the counter. And so I [00:56:00] spotted that one time and I was talking to Jason, the owner, and he let me check it out for a couple of minutes. And that's when I started looking into this whole thing, which, per usual, led us down a rabbit hole. Jessika: Love these rabbit holes of ours. Mike: Yeah, they're fun. Anyway, the Tandi Whiz Kid's comics kept on coming out until 1992. And based on what I understand, they featured the Whiz Kids solving crimes, using Tandy computers and other Radio Shack products. I haven't read them. I do really want to track down a copy of the Computer that Said No To Drugs though. Jessika: Who was offering computers drugs? They are expensive! Mike: I, I don't know. I'm really curious about everything about that. Jessika: Hey man, you want to hit this? It's just a fucking computer. And it's like, what are you talking about, dude? Mike: Oh, I'm having flashbacks now of that episode of, uh, Futurama where Bender gets hooked on electricity. Jessika: Oh, hahahaha. [00:57:00] Mike: They keep on referring to it as jacking on anyway. Yeah. But the early nineties were when things really started to go downhill for Radio Shack and they never really stopped, because stores like Best Buy and Walmart just started to really eat their lunch. And then, it got to the point where they've had to declare bankruptcy twice in the past five years or so. Like they also declared Nick Cannon as their chief creative officer around the time of the first bankruptcy. Yeah. And now they've been bought by some shady sounding company out of Florida. So the brand is still around, but it's not really the company that we grew up with. And I don't know, I'm honestly not sure what's worse, like partnering with Nick Cannon, or being this pale reflection of your former glory. They both sound pretty bad. Jessika: Yeah. Mike: But yeah, that's the story about Superman, and how he wound up acting as a computer salesman for [00:58:00] a couple of years. You got any final thoughts? Jessika: So I'm just shaking my head over here. Like my nostrils are flaring. Mike: How was that different from any other conversation I lead though? Jessika: I literally prepare myself for these, cause I'm like, all right, you can get angry, but don't get too angry. My secret is I'm always angry. Mike: Dun dun dun. Jessika: Hmm. So you know, it's really interesting to see how very far we've come since these issues came out in the early eighties. Like, we're sitting here on small laptops, I've got a phone and a tablet right here in front of me as well, and you and I are basically sitting across from each other, having a conversation, even though we're not even in the same physical location. Mike: Yeah. Jessika: It blows my mind how amazing things like high speed trains and basic information [00:59:00] searches seemed back then, when they're so commonplace now. Like, I seriously Google everything. I would be nowhere without Google. Mike: Yeah. My career is because of the internet. Jessika: Yeah. Yours, yours sure, is absolutely that's, yeah. That's a wild thing to think about too. And it's also wild to think about how much more advanced technology has become even in just, I had to do the calculations 40 years time, which I about had a panic attack when I mathed that out because. Ha ha ha. We're almost 40. Mike: Yep. Actually this episode is going to air right around the time that I'm going to be turning 40. Jessika: Yup. Happy birthday, to Mike. Mike: Thanks, I hate it. Jessika: No, Yeah. Right. At least you're not my mom giving my dad a [01:00:00] vulture piñata for his 40th birthday. Mike: No, Sarah has declared that she wants my 40th birthday to be a super soft birthday, which if you've ever watched Letterkenny. Jessika: Yes! I was hoping You were going to say that. There has to be a unicorn. Mike: I know, I think it's going to be put on hold until we're all vaccinated, but we might do a belated super soft birthday. Jessika: Yeah, okay. I figured you guys are going to have a family super soft birthday. But, if you want to have a super soft after birthday, when things clear up, I am, I am there and I will be eating some lovely pink frosted cupcakes with you. Mike: You're on, big shoots. So we are now at the point of the episode where we're going to wrap things up with our Brain Wrinkles, which is when we discussed the one thing that is comics or comics adjacent that we just can't get out of our head. So you want to start things off? Jessika: Oh sure. [01:01:00] As I promised, I just finished watching the latest season of The Boys, which is season two. Holy shit. Holy fucking shit. That show is bat shit wild. Mike: Yeah. Jessika: And what's been sticking in my head is the abuse dynamic between Homelander and mean, anybody he deals with, really? Mike: I was gonna say, everybody? Jessika: Yeah. And it's so interesting, cause as he was growing up, he was taught that not only is he more powerful than any person, he has been told that he is special and is entitled to do whatever pleases him. Which is really scary to see him manipulating others, using fear as a motivator to encourage them to comply. And honestly, the reason it scares me the most is just the powerlessness that these people, and most often women, are terrified into just following through with Homelander's whims. Mike: Yeah. yeah. There's a lot of really [01:02:00] uncomfortable moments in that show. But I like the show, which I didn't expect. Jessika: Well, I do like that it's putting a spotlight onto that dynamic, cause that's a dynamic that we show is very one-sided, usually a little victim blamey. Mike: Mmhmm. Jessika: You know, why didn't she just leave kind of a narrative, which we all know it's not that easy. Mike: Yeah. Jessika: And I think this is a really good example of why it's not that easy, in a very powerful way. And, it does remind me of people who are stuck in abusive households or relationships and are in different ways, powerless to leave their situations. So, hopefully it sparks some conversation. Mike: Yeah. Jessika: Well, but what about you? Mike: Mine is also TV related, but it's not quite as topical as your thoughts. So, I actually was trying to show my stepson[01:03:00] some X-Men cartoons the other day. And as we started to watch the first episode of Wolverine and the X-Men, he started to ask me all these questions about who the different characters were, because they basically start the show off assuming that the audience knows who all of the X-Men are, because at the time when it launched, the X-Men were a major brand, and then Disney acquired Marvel right before this. And then, they kind of made mutants personas, non grata, and, the mutants have not been featured in Disney programming up until the point where basically for the past 10 years, major media representation for kids of characters, like the X-Men, aren't all that common. And so it was just kind of a really thoughtful moment for me, where I realized I had to start them over from the beginning with an earlier X-Men cartoon, where he gets all these introductions. And I think there's going to be this generation that is going to grow up learning who the X-Men are a lot later than a lot of us [01:04:00] did. Like I knew all of the X-Men by the age of nine and I suspect. Jessika: Oh, yeah. Mike: Yeah. And so I think it's going to be really interesting to watch a generation of teenagers discover the X-Men really for the first time outside of, you know, Wolverine and Deadpool, because everybody knows who they are. Jessika: Yeah, of course. Hm. Mike: But yeah. Jessika: That's wild. Mike: Yeah. It's kind of one of those surreal moments of realization. Yeah. Jessika: Hmm. Mike: So, in two weeks we will be back with our next installment of the Sandman book club, which is going to be volumes three and four. And then until then we'll see you in the stacks. 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This week, we're taking a look at The New Guardians! DC's short-lived attempt at a topical superhero comic is... look. Just strap in. This is one of the wildest comic rides you'll ever go on. ----more---- Episode 14 Transcript Mike: [00:00:00] Y'all need Satan. Mike: Welcome to Ten Cent Takes, the podcast where we cringe at cursed comics, one issue at a time. My name is Mike Thompson, and I am joined by my cohost, the taskmaster of trivia herself, Jessika Frazer. Jessika: Ooh, it is I. Mike: How are you doing tonight? Jessika: Oh, pretty good. How are you? Mike: Uh, you know, I, I can't complain the week is coming to an end, so it's, something I'm looking forward to is this weekend and just chillin' out. Jessika: Thank goodness. Yes, my BFF is in town, so that's, I'm very excited. She lives in Maine, so it's like very, very exciting that she is here. She's from around here, but just like visiting right now. So yes, I'm excited. Mike: That's rad. If you're [00:01:00] new to the show, the purpose of this podcast is to study comic books in ways that are both fun and informative, hopefully. What we like to do is we like to look at some of the weirdest, strangest, silliest, or coolest moments in comic books, and then talk about how they are woven into the larger fabric of pop culture and history. Today, we are going to be looking at the New Guardians, one of DC's stranger and more interesting maxi series that they produced from the 1980s. All right. Jessika: I'm vigorously shaking my head, as you were saying. And I'm just like, here we go. Mike: That was not a face that said my body is ready. Jessika: No, it's, it's not ready. Like, I mean, there's no lie. Mike: I, I don't know. I, I don't know if anybody can truly be ready to talk about the New Guardians.[00:02:00] Jessika: Are we going to have to put some sort of a warning? We're absolutely gonna have to put a warning on this episode. Like if you have little ears, please, I don't care what other episode, like we throw the F bomb around if that's your thing. That's fine. Most episodes are probably okay for that. But this one, please put the little ears away. Because I'm not holding back. Mike: We're going to have to do an extra swearing warning is what you're saying. Jessika: Yeah. Like we'll have almost a content warning. I mean, we're getting into some, some heavy content this episode. Mike: All right. Before we do that, though, we should talk about one cool thing that we've read or watched recently. So why don't you take it? Jessika: So knowing full well that I'm very behind in my media consumption. I watched the first episode of Star Wars' the Bad Batch. Mike: Oh, nice. Yeah, that looks like a really cool show. Jessika: It's really good. Yes. I [00:03:00] really, really liked it. The first episode was legit, almost movie length. It's 70 minutes long. Mike: Wow. Jessika: And I wasn't really expecting that. So I was, as I was watching it I'm like how long if I've been watching this show? Like, I mean, it was really good. I was involved and everything, but at one point I was just like, how long has this been? And I did the little button and I was like, oh, that makes sense. So it just was kind of. Mike: Yeah. Jessika: I love how the show is recreating the bits that we don't get to see about the rise of the empire and what that looked like from the inside of like the empire itself, which is so fascinating. And the computer animation is really neat. The 3d appearance gives it like some realism and depth. Mike: Yeah. And from what I've seen is that animation style that they kind of started with 15 years ago with the clone wars series. That's kind of continued on, right? Yeah. I've only [00:04:00] watched a little of that, but that stuff has gotten so cool with all the different things that they've done with it. Jessika: It really has. So yeah, I'm excited. I'm gonna watch some more of that one. And what about you? What are you checking out? Mike: Well, Sarah and I watched the Suicide Squad last weekend and we really enjoyed it, but I want to talk about that later on. I started reading a new comic series that I picked up at Brian's Comics in Petaluma over the weekend, it's called Nocterra, and it's from Image comics. It's written by it's written by Scott Snyder and it's illustrated by Tony S Daniel. And it, it gives me similar vibes to Undiscovered Country, which is another series from Image and Snyder himself. I'm only one issue in, but the core concept is that it's this post-apocalyptic world a couple of decades after something called the big PM. Basically that is permanent night's settled over everything and all of these spooky monsters that they, they spiritually feel a little bit like the xenomorphs from Aliens, but they don't look like them.[00:05:00] They reside in the darkness and they can only be kept at bay with bright lights. The comic is following Val, who was a young girl when the big PM hit as she has since become a ferryman, which is, she's basically a big rig trucker, but she's transporting cargo and that can be people, or it can be other things between the different outposts of humanity. And the first issue sees her getting hired by this mysterious guy who is all of a sudden he shows her that he is sporting a fresh sunburn. And, and that's kind of where it's going from there. It's interesting. I'm really curious to see where it goes. So, yeah, I'm gonna head back up to the shop and pick up the other issues that they have. Jessika: Very fun. Mike: Yeah. Mike: All right. Are you ready to actually do this? Jessika: Uh, yeah. Mike: All right. Jessika: There was pain in my voice, but we're here. [00:06:00] You gave me an out earlier to be totally, to be totally fair. Mike: I did. Okay. So, this episode is happening because you were the one who sent me a TikTok from Nikhil Clayton, who, first of all, he is absolutely delightful and he has a series called What the Fuck Comics, and this particular video was focused on a character called Hemogoblin, who is literally a white supremacist AIDS vampire. And then if you want to do a. I feel like we need to play this so that our listeners can hear the delightful summary of how batshit this character was. Jessika: Oh my gosh. Yeah. Goodness gracious. Hello, and welcome back to What the Fuck Comics, the show where we discuss old plot lines and characters, and ask the ever important question. What the fuck? So good news, person, right now. This little monstrosity behind me is the Hemogoblin. He [00:07:00] was a doozy character from the 1980s, and if his name gives you a bad feeling about where we're going with this, you're probably right. He was the creation of a white supremacist group with the ultimate goal of getting rid of all non white people. How? The same way Reagan was going to do it, with the fucking thing AIDS epidemic. Yeah, this guy is an AIDS vampire. He's got all this classic vampire powers, but with the slight exception that when he bites you, you don't become a vampire, you just get AIDS. And I stress again, the he debuted in the 1980s. This was DC's attempt at being topical. Now, thankfully he was only in a handful of issues, so he didn't have a very big effect on anything, but wait, what's that? Sorry. Nevermind. He killed someone. Specifically this guy, Extrano. Extrano was a wizard superhero whose name may or may not have translated directly to strange. Who also just happened to be openly gay. And yes, after a fight with the Hemogoblin, he contracted AIDS and eventually died. And what happened to everyone's favorite personification of mocking tragedy? He also died. Of AIDS [00:08:00] Because what else was going to happen? DC, what the fuck? Yeah. Mike: Yeah. So, uh, you sent me that video, Jessika: Yeah, I did. Mike: What was your initial reaction to it when you first saw it?I'm curious. Jessika: At first I thought, okay, in no way, can this be real? But we all know how awful people are. I was mouth agape in shock, honestly, and I did, I did immediately think of you. I sent it to you within a minute of seeing it because I was like, fuck, do you know about this? Mike: This is, this is the, the pinnacle of our friendship is that, that you saw something that terrible and you send it to me. Jessika: Oh, [00:09:00] Mike: But yeah, because as soon as you sent this to me, I was like, fuck, do I know about this? I wrote about it! And I got really excited to tell you all about the New Guardians and Hemogoblin and everything else terrible about comics. Jessika: So yes, every one I did, I opened this can of worms. So either, I'm sorry, or you're welcome, however, you're taking this. Mike: It's a little bit of both. I mean, I'm not going to lie. I was so excited at the idea of talking about how completely bad shit this entire thing is. So. Jessika: Oh, well let's, let's plow on. This is something. Mike: Yeah. Hemoglobin appeared in a comic series from the late eighties called the New Guardians, but in order to talk about the New Guardians, we needed to actually take a step back and talk about Millennium, which was this giant DC crossover comic event that the team spun out of. So, Millennium took place [00:10:00] in early 1988, and it was the company's third crossover. Before that they had Crisis on Infinite Earths and Legends. And you, and I've talked about Crisis briefly in the past. We noted about how it was this giant crossover thing that streamlined DC's, rather convoluted comics time. And it created something coherent that wove together, not only classic comic characters, like the Justice Society and the Charleston comic characters that DC had recently acquired like Blue Beetle and the Question and Peacemaker, who is now in the DCEU as part of the Suicide Squad. But it also made, it made all those characters, a coherent part of the timeline with the modern DC characters, like the Justice League and Superman and Batman, et cetera, et cetera. Crisis is still this like widely acclaimed storyline, a lot of critics and readers still feel that it is [00:11:00] arguably the best crossover ever. I've read it. I like it a lot. I think it's groundbreaking for what it did, and as a result, I think it deserves a special place in comics history. Legends in term was Legends was fine. It's passable I've re-read it several times., and I always forget the main story except for a couple of random plot points, including that, that was what introduced us to the Suicide Squad. And then after that we got Millennium. Millennium was written by Steve Engelhart and he's this pretty prolific comics writer who has been in the industry for a while. I think he might be retired at this point, from the seventies through the nineties, he was pretty prolific. He bounced back and forth a lot between Marvel and DC during the seventies and eighties, but the seventies is arguably when he did his best work. He wrote a really well-known run on Dr.Strange for a couple of years from 74 to 76. And then he also co-created Shang-Chi with [00:12:00] Jim Starlin in 1973, which we're about to get a movie of. It also sounds like he did a lot of drugs during the same period. , and he's talked about it pretty openly. There's this collection of interviews and essays from across the industry called Comics Between the Panels, and he gave us this amazing quote. Jessika: Oh, goodness. We'd rampage around New York City. There was one night when a bunch of us, including Jim Starlin went out on the town. We partied all day, then did some more acid than roamed around town until dawn, and saw all sorts of amazing things, most of which ended up in Master of Kung Fu, which Jim and I were doing at the time. Mike: Yeah. And master of Kung Fu is what Shang-Chi's original series was called. Jessika: Got it. Oh, wow. Mike: This little quote has absolutely nothing to do with our overall discussion, but it's such a wonderful, weird little detail about the [00:13:00] guy that I felt we had to include it. Jessika: It gives me a really good idea of why this was as drug-addled as it was. Well, there were other reasons. Mike: I'm gonna show you the cover of Millennium's first issue. And I'd like for you to paint us a word picture. Jessika: All right. So in red with yellow behind it, it says Millennium week one, Millennium, DC. 75 cents. And then it has all of the DC superheroes, kind of like that portrait in the Shining, like they're all kind of stacked up, back there and they're looking at something, it's called The Arrival at the bottom. So my guess is they're looking at aliens, which is such a hot topic, every DC superhero that I can recall is in this picture. Mike: It is a veritable who's who? Of DC characters, Jessika: Yeah. Mike: But I mean, they all look [00:14:00] horrified. Jessika: They do, they look horrified. It's all in gray tone with a little bit of green splashed on it. Mike: Yeah. It promises something that it doesn't really deliver on. Millennium was, it was interesting because they basically were dropping every issue of the core series, I believe every week, so that's how you were getting week one, week, two, week three. Because the core series ran for two months. But it also features this really complicated plot. So, the arrival that is advertised on the cover basically occurs when a Guardian of the Universe, the guys who run the Green Lanterns named, and I'm not making this up, Herupa, Hando Hu, all H's, starting. And then the female equivalent of the Guardians, which I believe they are responsible for the Star Sapphires, which are the pink color, the pink equivalent, and they're all about love. Because the Green Lanterns, at this point they've established that [00:15:00] there are different rings for each color of the emotional spectrum. The Zamoran girlfriend is Nadia Safir. Herupa and Nadia are on this quest to unlock the super potential of 10 people on earth, who they deem the Chosen, they say that these people will become immortal and they're going to guide humanity into its next stage of evolution. But they're really vague about all of that. Essentially these people are destined to become the next group of the Guardians and kind of take over running the universe, since the Guardians and their girlfriends have decided to kind of peace out to another part of the universe and then enjoy some debatably well-earned retirement after a few billion years of running things. Jessika: This is your problem now. Mike: Yeah, exactly. Herupa and Nadia show up to all these superheroes and then announce their mission, and then they do it in a way that's not even remotely dramatic. Basically they show up, they tell the heroes what's going on, and then the heroes agreed to help find and protect the Chosen [00:16:00] and everyone starts making plans to do so. And then meanwhile, this plan is opposed by a group of robots that are known as the Man Hunters. The Man Hunters were the original version of the Green Lantern Corps. They were the beta test. They basically doled out justice for about half a billion years, and then they went insane. And then the Guardians replaced them with the Green Lantern Core. I think part of the established insanity honestly just involves nursing a grudge for 3 billion years, because that's how long they've been around. And they like to hang out and just basically sulk on their hidden planet, which is apparently undetectable, and then ruin the Guardian's plans whenever they can. Obviously they decide to wreck Herupa's plans because they're still pissed off and they have a bunch of double agents on earth who are androids, or mind-controlled people, or traitors, who help attack the heroes and basically try to kill the Chosen. Jessika: Wow. That's like a new level. Like, that's next [00:17:00] level petty. Mike: I mean, they're, they're an entire robot race of that shitty dude who can't get over the fact that his ex has moved on and is dating somebody else. Jessika: Oh no, we've all met that guy. Mike: Yeah. Jessika: Ugh. If you haven't met that guy, you are that guy. I hate to tell you. Mike: Yeah, right? So the Guardians shitty robot exes wind up being a little successful. There were originally going to be 10 Chosen, but by the end of the series, only six are actually still around to receive their powers because it takes a while before they're granted their specialness. One of them was senile when the series began. There's another guy named Janwilheim kroef. I think that's how you say his name, it's Afrikaans, so I'm sure I'm butchering it. He gets kicked out because he's such a racist asshole from Apartheid, South Africa that nobody wants anything to do with him. [00:18:00] And then I think two of them are murdered over the course of the story, but we don't see it in the core series. Cause there's like 30 tie-in issues and I haven't read them all because I have shit to do. But yeah, the final roster of the New Guardians includes Jet, who is a Jamaican woman who, when we meet her is living in fascist Britain, which I think is just Margaret Thatcher's England, I've never heard it referred to as fascist England, that was a new one. Also she has a written accent that I'm going to call comically offensive. Jessika: It is so, it is, I, yes, that is a great description of what that is. That's how I felt about it as well. Mike: We also get Ram, who is a Japanese businessman who then becomes a walking computer and can talk to electronics. Gloss is this woman from the People's Republic of China. Who can suddenly command dragon lines while showing this insane amount of cleavage. And she keeps on flirting with Ram too. It's really weird and creepy.[00:19:00] Betty Clawman. She was an Aborigine who eventually wound up living in the dream time. She's not really a presence in the New Guardians, but she's still officially a member. There's Extrano, who was noted in that TikTok video, who was a Peruvian gay man who develops magical abilities. Extrano's an interesting case, because at this point in time, the Comics Code Authority would not actually allow publishers to acknowledge his sexuality. But this dude is so flamboyant, he insists on being called auntie, and when the Guardian first shows up to announce that he is one of the chosen, he kind of flirts with him? Jessika: There's also that part where they're talking about sex and God, I don't know why they would be having such an overt conversation about sex, but Harbinger says something about, oh, would you want to go have sex? [00:20:00] He's like, not with you, honey, or something like that. Mike: Something to that effect. Yeah. Jessika: To that effect, yeah. And it was like, okay. Mike: Yeah. No, he's very flamboyant. Like there is, I mean, come on guys. You're not fooling anyone. Jessika: He like points his toe out in a lot of the comics, like in a, in a way that they only draw females doing like a lot of the way they have him standing is very feminine, which is interesting. Not always. Mike: His outfit originally, it's almost like a unisex series of magical robes, where you could see it on either a male or female character. And then his hair is very flamboyant too. He has in a lot of ways, very effeminate features, which then changes later on when they give him that costume change. And we'll talk about that later on but you know, he's this kind of nebbish little guy and he's very flamboyant, and, if you grew up in the Bay Area, you knew a lot of people like that. So, the final, one of the Chosen, [00:21:00] if I remember right, is Tom Kalmaku, he's one of Hal Jordan, the Green Lantern's friends, he's a mechanic for Ferris air. He's been around since the sixties. And eventually it's revealed that he has the power to “bring out the best in people”, but, it's really vaguely defined and we don't really know what it means. And then he winds up declining to go with the team, cause he doesn't want to put his family at risk, but he's still a part of the New Guardians storyline overall. And then after that, they were joined by a longtime villain called the Fluoronic Man, who he's got a bunch of powers over nature. And then Harbinger, who was one of the main characters during Crisis on Infinite Earths, and she's been kicking around the DC universe afterwards, but she wound up being another main character during the Millennium storyline. So that is the TLDR summary, which is already too long, but whatever, but now we can actually talk about the New Guardian series. Like how would you describe [00:22:00] this series? If you had to sell it to someone with an elevator pitch, like, what would you say. Jessika: Overall the New Guardians have been chosen to be Earth's protectors. They are from around the world with the obvious idea that there is a global participation and representation, their main arc is against a white supremacist who is causing all of the destruction, seen in the comics due to his desire to rid the world of all other races. They are basically world social justice warriors who take a very active role in change. Mike: First of all, that's a very succinct summary of that comic. The series was originally written by Englehart, he was continuing on, and it was drawn by veteran artists, Joe Staton. Cary Bates took over writing duties with issue two and pat Broderick, who is the guy who created Tim Drake, AK Robyn, number three, eventually finished out the series as its penciler. Here's the funny thing, the series isn't [00:23:00] really all that well known or remembered by the general public, but it's kind of notorious within the comics industry and among certain collectors because its villains were so fucking bonkers. Like in the first two issues, we get Hemogoblin who is a vampire that he's sort of a vampire. He looks like count Orloff from Nosferatu he's got the same face and everything, but he was created in a lab by Janwilheim Kroef's scientists like Janwilheim Kroef has apparently just, I don't know exactly how he has access to all the super doomsday science, but somehow he does. So the vampire winds up coming to the United States ends up attacking the group in a dance club. If I remember right or no, right outside a dance club, that's what happened. And then he bites Jet, who is, I have to state this one of the [00:24:00] first black, super heroines in DC comics history, and also attacks Extrano. And I don't think he bites him, but he scratches him, but he gives both of those characters HIV. Jessika: Mmhm. Mike: And then he winds up dying because this system burns itself out. Thanks to his accelerated form of aids that he has. And Harbinger it's weird. They don't quite explain how, but she's almost like cosmically sympathetic to Jet's being. And so she winds up developing the same wound as Jed and then also developing HIV. But that goes away. Jessika: Yeah, they had some symbiotic link. It was very strange. Mike: Yeah. Symbiotic. That's the word I was looking for. It's very weird. Um, and it's, it's not really explained for a comic, for a comic series with so much exposition, there's a lot that is not well explained or defined. Jessika: There's one point where they're obviously making [00:25:00] fun of their own exposition and they're like, hey, I know this is a lot to listen to. I appreciate you being. I was like, oh gosh. Yeah. Don't you know it. Mike: Yeah. Hemoglobin winds up dying from AIDS because of course he fucking does. And, and then the next issue, whisks is off to Columbia where we get to meet Snowflake, who I love Snowflake. How, how would you describe him? I'm curious. Jessika: Oh, man. Just your way. Cause I have so heavy. He's basically just a really coked up weightlifter. Mike: Fair. Jessika: Yeah. Apparently it has something to do with the power of cocaine, heavy quotes, coursing through him that gives him his powers question, mark. I have to read this description of himself because it is just something. And he says this at one [00:26:00] point during the comic. Mike: Yeah. And he is also a pyrokinetic, we should note, so this quote has like extra weight to it. Jessika: Exactly. Every cell of my being burns with the white hot ecstasy. Cocaine is my god, and I am the instrument of its will. And he has all these coked up people that are basically just zombies doing his way. But like nowhere, does it say why he's the instrument of drugs and not his fellows? Mike: Yeah. Jessika: Maybe he was the only one that could afford to buy a fancy spandex suit and spend all of his time getting yoked. Maybe that's it. They're like, oh yeah, this guy, this guy with privilege. Pick him. Mike: Well, and he, like, he like really beats the shit out of the New Guardians too. And then he gets randomly thrown into a shed with a bunch of chemicals and then it explodes and that's how you get them. It. Jessika: Yeah. He died in [00:27:00] what was basically a drug shed explosive. Mike: Yeah, I'm okay. I'm sorry. But if this was a horror movie and the monster died that way, it would just be like, okay. So we're obviously going to have the guy come back in the next movie and I was waiting for that, but we never get him back again. Jessika: I was waiting for that, also. I was waiting for that like Ninja Turtles, like here comes Shredder with his hand out of like the rubble. Mike: Nope. Jessika: Oh my gosh. So what did you think of that guy's like Fabio white hair. That was like a point of pride, but you know, it had to take some constant maintenance, so. Mike: Well, I mean, he had that much cocaine, what if he just sat there and used that as his like dry shampoo? Jessika: Oh, oh that's, that's awful because the, I, yeah, that's awful. That's awful. It's really funny too. Cause it's like they're mixing up their drugs, if they think that coke is going to cause super strengthened agility. [00:28:00] Like, what they should have had was a coked up guy that just talked really fast and wanted to party and have a bunch of sex. And like, that was his super power. Mike: Right. Jessika: Like that's, that's what I've always seen portrayed in the movies and shit. People don't get really strong. That's PCP, when somebody is really crazy on like PCP or something, that's always been what I've heard, but like, that's always in very rare instances when somebody goes off the handle or something and you hear about that, but it was so ridiculous. I mean, you could literally smell the war on drugs, undertones. They were palpable. Mike: Oh yeah. Jessika: I could taste them. Mike: Reagan? Papa Reagan, is that you? Jessika: Are you listening? I am. Oh, I mean, all it all, he was certainly memorable. I mean, maybe not for the right reasons. Mike: All right? [00:29:00] Well, I'm going to break this to you. Snowflame has actually like infamous in comic book history. Like I, I was looking up his first appearance today just to see what stores are selling that issue for. Jessika: I'm sorry is for you mean like in this issue, was he in more than just this? Mike: No, as far as I know, that's his only issue. Jessika: Oh God, you scared me. I was like. Mike: No. So, but yeah, like it's funny because people still talk about that one villain. They don't talk about the New Guardians, but they will talk about Snowflame because they, I think they find it charming, basically the, you know, just how ridiculous the villain is. But his first appearance, like is going for 50 to 75 bucks at a lot of stores these days. Jessika: Oh. Wow. Mike: Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think the fact that his powers are fueled by cocaine is just, it's kind of charming, honestly, like people just sit there and like, oh, that's cute. If only we knew then what we know now. Jessika: Right. [00:30:00] Mike: Like, I don't know if you got told this growing up, but, but I was part of that DARE generation. Jessika: Oh, Absolutely. Cops in the classroom and everything, which no, don't do that. Mike: Yeah. And I remember every time the cops came to DARE and they were telling us about all the drugs, they would tell us cocaine is the worst drug out there. Jessika: Which, lol. Mike: Yeah. Like I could not help, but think of that when I was reading this issue. And I mean, I guess it makes sense. Cocaine was pretty prevalent during the eighties and crack cocaine was really starting to become this huge epidemic in cities across the country by the end of the decade. But, you know, cocaine was the drug that white people knew better. So it got focused on a lot in media, like, you know, in TV shows and comics and movies, all that stuff. And then even though Snowflame died and never came back, apparently, the issue after also deals with [00:31:00] cocaine, because like the villains are, they're like a gang of child soldiers in LA and there. Jessika: I'm throwing my hands up because I don't even know. Mike: Yeah. Cause they're referred to as kids at one point, but like some of them have a lot of facial hair and it's very weird. And they stage, an attack on the New Guardians' bungalow hotel that they're staying at. Because I guess being the Chosen if humanity doesn't pay enough to afford an Avenger's tower, but this gang is also paid in cocaine by Snowflame's people. Jessika: It is implied that they're children, But it's like, come on. You're not going to be overtaken by like a gang of children, like this is, this is not the Newsies. Like, you're fine. Mike: No, but the other thing is like, you know, in the eighties, that was really, again, part of the whole gang panic was the eighties and nineties. Jessika: Yeah. Mike: Like, you know, that was a huge thing where, news [00:32:00] media at the time was just painting teenage gangs out to be the scourge of the country. Jessika: Yeah, well, and they've got both the gang aspect and the drug aspect that they're like, oh, watch out every one don't want your kids involved in this. Mike: Fuck, yeah, they were really beaten that horse well past the point of being dead. Jessika: God. It was. So it was so obvious. My cheeks hurt a little bit, cause it really smacked me. Mike: Yeah. Well, those first three issues are really kind of the most fun, I felt because after that, the series just kind of limps along. And Jet keeps getting weaker and weaker due to the virus, progressing from HIV to AIDS, because I don't know Hemogoblin had some accelerated form of it or something. And then she eventually dies when she sacrifices herself, helping fight off an alien invasion. She sacrifices herself because she ran out of energy because she had AIDS. Jessika: [00:33:00] Yeah. Yeah. And then it's not lost on me that they choose the one woman of color and the gay dude to both get AIDS out of everyone or HIV at the very least. Mike: Yeah, it is. We'll, we'll talk about that later on, but it's not great. After this point, Janwilheim Kroef becomes more and more of the central villain as the story progresses. Eventually he has his plan revealed and it's kind of weird, it's like to make white supremacy go global, which, I mean, first of all, it was already global, but he's basically trying to turn it up to 11. The comic is not at all subtle for drawing parallels between him and Nazis. And then, I mean, it's just, it's so over the top that you almost hit that point where you feel like you're disconnecting from it, because it's just beating you over the head with this message. For the last few issues he's running around and he's got a military uniform with a black arm band and he's [00:34:00] throwing up his hand while he's talking. And, you know, speaking about the inferior races and how he's going to unite the world under his banner of hatred. It's uh. Jessika: Oh, yeah. he does a whole, like, you know, leader, speech, propaganda situation. I mean, it's, it was really heavy handed. Mike: Yeah. And then he does the thing where he kidnaps Tom Kalmaku's girlfriend, and then she's pregnant. And he wants to surgically experiment on her unborn child. But it's very nonsense and nothing really comes from it other than eventually he gets a hold of Tom, and then thinks that he killed him by throwing him into a pit of minorities that he's surgically experimented on or something and turned them all into cannibal mutants. Jessika: Get a but like, can we talk about how fucking macabre that whole fucking situation was them? [00:35:00] The fucking, like they were talking about dissecting fetuses and stuff. It was fucking wild. I mean, they had a fetus that was hooked up to stuff, like in a thing when he was in like having a dream. And it was just like, it was insane. It was a lot. Mike: It was really a lot, but at the same time, it was kind of boring. Like it was really gruesome and horrifying in concept, but then when they put it on the page, it was, it was all delivered with so much exposition and it wasn't actually. Moving in any way, like I was just bored. Jessika: No, it wasn't, it wasn't, but I guess it was just, it was shocking to me that that was where they were going with it. You know what I mean? That, that, it just was a lot. And for me, I could kind of tell that it was written by men. Mike: Oh yeah. Totally. Jessika: It's just, that was just something that I wasn't really expecting, to be honest with you. Mike: Yeah. And I had forgotten about it up until the point where I was rereading these issues. I don't have the sales data on the series. [00:36:00] I get the impression that this was a series that was not doing well, sales wise, and the writers were just trying to do what they could to get people, to pay attention to it. And I don't know if that's the case. It's a feeling that I get in my gut, I could be way off. Jessika: The vibe, I hear. Mike: The other thing is like, aside from being really kind of gross and horrifying, this whole plot about Kroef and what he's trying to do, it just, it's kinda nonsense. It doesn't make sense. That's the only way I can describe it. Like, I dunno, he wanted to figure out how Tom got powers or something like that, and so he was going to experiment on the baby, but then the baby was totally normal. And so he just decided to blow up his mountain base and then throw Tom into a pit to get eaten by mutants. But then Tom developed his own super powers at the same time that Kroef was developing his and Kroef is all about. Jessika: Latent fucking super powers. Jesus. Mike: Oh it's dumb.Yeah. And [00:37:00] Kroef finds up developing the superpowers to basically bring out hatred and other people and also make them serve him while Tom becomes. Jessika: Which, also, unexplained? Mike: Yeah. And then Tom is basically Jesus and Buddha combined. He has that aforementioned like “bring out the best ability”, where he just kind of sits and meditates and then appears to people in visions and can literally hand wave away anything that he wants to it's. You know, viewing this through a modern lens. I'm like, oh, so he was that be best campaign by Melania Trump just made manifest. Jessika: Yes. Yes. Yes. Mike: It sounds simultaneously wholesome and absolutely incomprehensible. I don't know how else to describe it, but yeah. And basically Tom saves the day at the very end of the series. He rescues the New Guardians from Kroef who is like mind controlling them or something. And then halfway through, they also gave Extrano a much more masculine costume [00:38:00] and he was suddenly jacked and he ran around with a crystal skull, which he would use for magic again, not well explained, whatever. Jessika: Yep. I was what I, it felt like he got more jacked. And I was wondering about that. Mike: Oh no. He, 100% started to hit the gym and take his creatine. Jessika: I was like, did the skull contain protein powder? I. Mike: Right. Jessika: He was actually at a GNC this whole time. Mike: Well, you know, you had a side hustle. Cause superhero-ing doesn't pay the bills. Jessika: Oh, no. Has he gotten involved in a multi-level marketing scheme? Do we need to save him from that now? Mike: Yeah. Probably Beach Body. Jessika: It worked for me. Mike: Ugh. If you become my downline, I can get you shredded and castin' spells too. [00:39:00] Yeah. And you know, it's, it's funny because all of the New Guardian's powers are really vague and, you know. Jessika: Yeah. Mike: It's funny because, Extrano, when he was first announced, he's like, I'm a witch. Cause that's, that was his thing. And I'm like, okay, cool. So you're a magic user. His magic is really, it's not well explained what he can and can't do. It seems like half the time he's just casting illusions. And then, you know, suddenly he's able to generate a force field and levitate everybody around and whatever. Okay. Jessika: He's basically the plug for the leaks in the team. Mike: Yes. Yeah. Whatever they might be. Jessika: Filling that void. Yep. Mike: What was your overall impression of this series? Jessika: It went from goofy to intense to, it just was like, you know, we already talked about the fetus dissection conversations. Obviously I got stuck on that because holy shit, that was [00:40:00] extreme. Okay. So I did like that there were a balanced amount of women and that there was a global representation, which was definitely something I had been whining about in our last episode. So thank you. Mike: Yeah. Jessika: But the women just had absolutely nothing on, you know, Gloss' outfit literally cut down to her pelvic bone. I mean, there was literally like two, it was two inches from her couch. Mike: Do you remember that dress that J-Lo wore to the Oscars like 25 years ago? That was super scandalous at the time? Jessika: I know the one. Yes. Mike: Yeah. No. It's the superhero equivalent of that Oscar's dress. Jessika: It sure is. Yeah. Like how are you even supposed to fight when you think you're going to slip a nip or sneak a cheek, like really how? This is a prime example of those types of comics where they look like they were drawn by a 12 year old boy. Mike: Oh, yeah. A hundred percent. And it's funny [00:41:00] because, if I remember right, in Millennium, because she's part of the People's Republic, they're all wearing like the same kind of like very nondescript kind of burlap sack style clothing that, I mean also problematic in its own way, but it's just, it was really interesting to see her go from a very kind of almost asexual character to being this horned up Asian woman stereotype. Jessika: Yeah. It was really intense. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there were at the very beginning, a few times where I was like, oh, what's going to happen next issue, but it did like, it dwindled. You know, like you said, towards the end and it just got really manic and crazy and just like, felt like a drug-induced fever dream. Mike: Yeah. It, I found myself comparing it to US 1, the series that we did a couple of episodes ago. Jessika: Yeah. Mike: Where that was another batshit shit series, but it was fun, and [00:42:00] I never found myself really getting frustrated with it because it never felt boring. And this one, I got bored a lot. Jessika: It was a little bit of a slog. Mike: But I mean, especially when characters, either the villains or the heroes were sitting there and recapping their backstory for like the 10th time, you know, it, I just don't care. Like, come on guys. You've already got me. You really think that the person reading issue number nine is not going to know what's going on. Come on. Jessika: Yeah, exactly. Mike: Yeah. And I got to agree with you, you know, you have to give the series a little bit of credit because the New Guardians was a diverse team and they had some interesting abilities, but everything about it just felt really cringey, for lack of a better word. It's like somebody took a list of the current social issues at the time, and then just like focus grouped the hell out of them. And then they created a superhero comic around it. [00:43:00] And I don't know, you can tell it's hard as in the right place, but everything about the comic itself just gets more and more painful. It's kind of akin watching someone trying to be especially woke, but you're sitting there really hoping that they're going to reign in their efforts by about 50%, by the end of it. Like, I mean, even the villains are topical. Like, the three that we talked about, we've got Janwilheim Kroef, who was part of the Apartheid government in South Africa. And this was in 1988, which is right when the apartheid was really getting put under the international media's microscope. Basically, the series was running right before Nelson Mandela got released from jail. And then we already talked about Snowflame and how he was relevant to the time. And then Hemogoblin it was topical because the AIDS crisis was really starting to take off in America at this point in time as well.[00:44:00] But yeah, it's a. It's a cringey read. Jessika: Yeah. I've just been shaking my head this whole time. The listeners can't hear that, but just know it was happening. Mike: Yeah.Yeah. You know, and it's funny cause DC doesn't really talk about the New Guardians, or the crossover they originated from, that much. Like, they acknowledge Millennium happened. They actually collected it into a graphic novel a few years ago, but it's only those core eight issues, and it really doesn't make a lot of sense because in between each issue, there is all this very crucial stuff that happens. And so those core eight issues are almost like the recaps and the setup for what's going to happen next. So it's, you know, it's still technically canon in terms of DC lore, but it's not really discussed in polite company. And I mean, case in point, Tom Kalmaku is I think still around in the [00:45:00] DC universe, Jessika: Really. Mike: He's a long time cast member of the Green Lantern comics. I know, I read a couple of issues that had him show up in, I want to say 2010. It might've been a little bit earlier than that. But I know that his character was even in that Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern movie. Jessika: Oh, you know what? No, you're right. You are right. Mike: But his powers, as far as I know, are never mentioned again, like they just kind of were like, no, that didn't really happen. Or we don't, we don't talk about that. And then, you know, it's the same with the New Guardians. They occasionally pop up individually, but they never really get the band together. I think they were still a team in Green Lantern comics, but then there was a villain named Entropy who wound up attacking the headquarters that they were operating out of. Cause they were hanging out in the Green Lantern headquarters on earth. And then it was assumed that they all died. So that TikTok video was saying that, Extrano died from HIV. [00:46:00] He might have, but as far as I know, what happened was everybody assumes that he died during that attack, and he still had HIV. But I don't know at that point, I'm not as familiar with the Green Lantern and storylines from that era. Jet somehow reappeared as the leader of the Global Guardians, Extrano had a recent cameo in Midnighter, and he was a supporting character, and he actually was like much more normcore this time around. But he was actually openly gay this time around, which was kinda cool. Jessika: Oh, good. Mike: Yeah. And then other than that, like most of the New Guardians spend a lot of time dying. So, yeah, as I mentioned, the entire team was absorbed and presumably killed by the super villain Entropy before Flash point rebooted the DC Universe, gloss was hanging out with Jet for a short while, but then she got killed by the villain, Prometheus, like, she got to decapitated. There's like, yeah, it is not subtle. And then Ram [00:47:00] was, again, it was one of those cameo things, but he was shown in passing as a victim of this villains' superpower death matches where it was like a super power fight club kind of thing, and it was shown that he had died, I think. But yeah, so yeah, that is the New Guardians and their, their wild ride across the DC Universe. Jessika: Wow. I'm going to, I'm going to put on a face mask after this. I'm gonna soak my feet, gonna decompress. Mike: And as far as I know, there is no collected version of this maxi series, like, so, you know, basically you have to buy the individual issues, at least what I've seen, which I mean, somehow I own, I think I found the entire series as like a bundle. You know, at one of the local comic shops and they were just like, whatever, like 12 bucks get out.[00:48:00] Jessika: Please take these and leave. Mike: We will pay you to take it out. Jessika: Oh God. It's like when stores want you to take cursed items home, they're like, we just don't want this in our possession any longer. Mike: Yeah. But I mean, like that said, you can find some really fun stuff in those bundle boxes. Like that's how I actually came across the whole series of US 1was at Flying Colors Comics the last time I was there. I found the first issue of Brian's, but then they had the complete collection at Flying Colors. So that was exciting. Jessika: Nice. Mike: I recently found the, I think it was the complete series of Ren and Stimpy, you know, for 30 bucks, which was fun. Jessika: Nice. And in the bundle boxes, they do like a full series? So whatever you pull it's like the whole thing? Mike: Or, they'll, do a full run of like a certain like, you know, set of issues. Jessika: Nice. Oh, that's cool. Mike: That's why I always liked to collect for, as I like to collect for the things where it's like the fun stories or the weird moments in comic history, or just, kind of cool, interesting moments. [00:49:00] And so you can find that stuff. If you're looking for just fun stuff to read, look at the, they used to call them like the quarter bins. I think they're now like dollar bins where, you know, they're the issues themselves are kind of ratty or they're worthless, but you can find a lot of really fun stuff, no, it's a great way to just enjoy comics if you're not collecting them to basically appreciate like your stock portfolio. Jessika: Very cool. Mike: Yeah. Mike: All right. Well, I believe it is time or Brain Wrinkles, which is that one thing that has comics or comics adjacent that we just can't kick out of our noggin. What is stuck in your gray matter this week? Jessika: Well, we've got another addition to the letter mafia. Mike: Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. Jessika: Ooh. So per DC cannon Tim Drake, our current Robin has. A whole mission where he gets to go save a [00:50:00] longtime friend, Bernard from the villain du jour, and during which point, Bernard confesses his feelings for Drake, whom he does not know his Robin. So he's like confessing his love and hoping that he has a chance for love. And then it ends with them going on a date. Mike: Yeah. Jessika: I love it. Mike: Yeah. It's really interesting. Jessika: He's bisexual, canonically, everyone. Mike: Yup. I'm very curious to see how this is going to play out in the future. I know a lot of right-wing shit heal comic sites and prevalent voices across the web are mad about this. And so I'm automatically overjoyed just to hear that this ruined their day. Jessika: Yeah. Yeah. Mike: Overall, the sentiment seems pretty positive to it as well, which I think speaks volumes about where we are now compared to when I started reading comics. Jessika: Agreed. Mike: Yeah. I'm pretty jazzed about it. I'm curious to see where they go with it [00:51:00] and the one thing that's been really interesting is I saw the BBC was asking what this meant for movies, and I was kind of sitting there. It doesn't fucking matter. Like they're not going to put it in a movie. Because here's the thing that a lot of people don't quite get, is that inclusivity for the LGBTQ plus community and movies is very fleeting because major movie studios, these days have recognized the power of the international box office and they thus need to put in stuff that they can edit out for the Chinese and Russian, and a handful of other smaller markets. So it was a big deal that in the last Star Wars movie, we get to see two guys kissing, it's a second and, you know, whatever that's going to get edited out in certain regions because they want to be able to make their millions. Jessika: Yeah, arguably edited out in the places that matter [00:52:00] most. Mike: Yeah, exactly. But I am glad to see that we're getting more representation and especially bi people in particular are getting more representation in meaningful, thoughtful ways. Jessika: Yes, well, and bi men. There's always been that boring trope of like how amazing it is that women can be bisexual, but it's often looked upon with disgust or completely disregarded when it comes to men. And I, quite frankly, there's no difference people, like. Mike: Yup. Jessika: It's just, it's just people hating. And it's the toxic masculinity of, you know, if you're a man, you do certain things and it's just like, come on guys, you need to back the fuck off. This is why you're as, as harmed as you are in your lives, because you had all these stupid us standards you had to stick with, and couldn't fucking talk about your feelings. And now you're just a ragey asshole. So here we are. Here we are. How do you feel? Oh, you won't tell me. [00:53:00] You don't even know. Mike: Yeah. God. Jessika: Let's see how mucho of that I cut out. Mike: Yeah. Jessika: So what about you? Um, what's wrinklin' and around in there. Mike: Yeah. You know, I can't believe how much I enjoyed The Suicide Squad. I keep on thinking about it. And I mean, I knew I was going to like it because I have yet to see anything by James Gunn that I haven't liked. I've been a fan of his since he did the movie Slither back in 2005 ish, which also had Nathan Fillion and Michael Rooker in it. Jessika: Ooh. Mike: Yeah, you know, he makes entertaining movies and I was not prepared for some of the things that happen in The Suicide Squad. It is absolutely wild what a [00:54:00] course correction that movie is, especially when you compare it to the first one. It kind of reminded me of Shizam and Birds of Prey. It was just this absolutely delightful blast of chaos. And, you know, it was fun. It was refreshing. And if this is where we're going with the DCEU, as opposed to the fucking Snyder cut, then I'm fully on board with this, like, sign me up for 10 more movies. Jessika: Yeah. Mike: Just no more Jokers, please. Jessika: I'll actually watch this one with a gusto, you know. Mike: No. Jessika: Probably sooner rather than later. Mike: Sarah wants to watch it again. Jessika: Oh, okay. Now that's a shining review then. Yes. Mike: Yeah. I'm really excited to talk with you about how batshit it is, and like the stuff that they do with it, which is really in a lot of ways, it's really brave, like what they did. They also, they kill off a lot of characters. Jessika: Ooh. Mike: I was not prepared for how many characters they were going to kill off. I knew they were gonna kill off a couple, but like. Jessika: Yeah. Mike: It's, it is astounding. [00:55:00] The choices that they made. Jessika: Damn. Maybe, I don't know everyone. What's up, y'all, we might need to do an episode about this one. Mike: I think that that would actually be pretty cool. Jessika: Yeah. Mike: Especially we could talk about how they got started, how they appeared in comics and then also how this movie in certain ways reminded me of their DC animated universe appearance. Jessika: Yes. Okay. I, if, if it compares to that, which, you know, I love that. Mike: Yeah. There's a, there's an episode of Justice League Unlimited called Taskforce X, which is a really great Suicide Squad story. Like I, yeah, that'd be kind of fun. We should, we should talk about that. But next time, our next episode, we are going to be starting something new. We're going to do, well, I guess it's like a book club. Jessika: I would say it's a book club. Yeah. Mike: Yeah. So we're going to read through and talk about the Sandman series by Neil Gaiman, the core [00:56:00] Sandman series, ahead of the Netflix TV show, which is coming out supposedly sometime this year, but I'm really excited about it. And we may actually have a couple of guests as guest hosts or maybe just one who knows we'll find out. Jessika: To be decided. Mike: But yeah, we'll be back in two weeks and until then, we'll see you in the stacks. Jessika: Thanks for listening to Ten Cent Takes accessibility is important to us. So text transcriptions of each of our published episodes can be found on our website. Mike: This episode was hosted by Jessika Frazer and Mike Thompson written by Mike Thompson and edited by Jessika Frazer. Our intro theme was written and performed by Jared Emerson Johnson of Bay Area Sound. Our credits and transition music is Pursuit of Life by Evan MacDonald and was purchased with a standard license from Premium Beat. Our banner graphics were designed by Sarah Frank, who you can find on Instagram as @lookmomdraws. Jessika: If you'd like to get in touch with us, [00:57:00] ask us questions, or tell us about how we got something wrong, please head over to tencenttakes.com or shoot an email to tencenttakes@gmail.com. You can also find us on Twitter, the official podcast account is tencenttakes. Jessika is @jessikawitha, and Jessika is spelled with a K. And Mike is @vansau, V A N S A U. Mike: If you'd like to support us, be sure to download, rate and review wherever you listen. 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Quarter-Bin Podcast #112Originally released: January 15, 2018.DC Retroactive JLA the '70s, DC Comics, cover-dated September 2011."Justice League Prime," written by Cary Bates, with art by Gordon Purcell, Jose Marzan Jr. & Adam Smith.and"Where on Earth Am I?" written by Cary Bates & Elliot S! Maggin, with art by Dick Dillin & Frank McLaughlin.Right-click to download episode directlyNext Episode: Dakota North #1, Marvel Comics, cover-dated June 1986.Send e-mail feedback to relativelygeeky@gmail.com, no matter how long ago this episode originally posted.
WELCOME BACK to another CLASSIC episode of Legion Outpost, as Adam and Dave cover a sequence of classic Cary Bates and Jim Shooter issues, with great Mike Grell art, as we cover Superboy Starring the Legion of Superheroes #213-218, and can we just say how GOOD Mike Grell's disco inferno Legion is, as well as Adventure Comics #364, where naughty Comet the Superhorse clashes with an arrogant Brainy, and the Superpets Revolt! Plus, Dave wants alive Krypto versus Undead Krypto! There's a lot to dig into in this one folks. Enjoy Legionnaires! Follow us on Twitter: @signalofdoom Dredd or Dead: @OrDredd Legion Outpost: @legionoutpost Follow Dave on Twitter: @redlantern2051 Please support the show on Patreon! Every dollar helps the show!https://www.patreon.com/SignalofDoom
FKAjason is back with more classic Captain Atom! First he discusses “Bialya Bound” from Captain Atom Annual #2 by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Paris Cullins, Bob Smith, Carrie Spiegle, Shelley Eiber, Dan Rasplar, and Denny O'Neil. Captain Atom gets more than he bargained for on a trip to Bialya.After that we check in with Captain Atom's buddy Gunner Goslin and Peggy Eiling and discuss “Reckoning Day” from Captain Atom Annual #2 by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Pat Broderick, Michael Bair, Shelley Eiber, Carrie Spiegle, Dan Rasplar, and Denny O'Neil. What will Captain Atom do when he finds out his best friend has been sleeping with his daughter?
FKAjason is back with more classic Captain Atom! First he discusses “Bialya Bound” from Captain Atom Annual #2 by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Paris Cullins, Bob Smith, Carrie Spiegle, Shelley Eiber, Dan Rasplar, and Denny O'Neil. Captain Atom gets more than he bargained for on a trip to Bialya.After that we check in with Captain Atom's buddy Gunner Goslin and Peggy Eiling and discuss “Reckoning Day” from Captain Atom Annual #2 by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Pat Broderick, Michael Bair, Shelley Eiber, Carrie Spiegle, Dan Rasplar, and Denny O'Neil. What will Captain Atom do when he finds out his best friend has been sleeping with his daughter?
lash, Flash, Kid Flash & Johnny Quick are foiled by Gorilla Grodd! Cary Bates, Irv Novick, Joe Giella, José Luis García-López, Wally Wood, Kurt Schaffenberger, and Murphy Anderson present 80 pages of Flash fun in The Flash Spectacular, aka: DC Special Series #11. www.ComicBookSyndicate.com
Who the heck is Questar? We don't even answer that question as we try to figure out whether it is a multiverse or time travel. In the city of Metropolis, in the 30th Century, there exists one of the most amazing clubs of all time! Its members are teen-aged youths, each possessing on special super-powers! The club members have vowed to use their fantastic power to battle crime... This rocket-shaped building is the Legion Clubhouse! http://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/traffic.libsyn.com/majorspoilers/LegionClubhouse27.mp3 Show your thanks to Major Spoilers for this episode by becoming a Major Spoilers Patron. It will help ensure The Major Spoilers Podcast continues far into the future! Join our Discord server and chat with fellow Spoilerites! (https://discord.gg/jWF9BbF) SUPERBOY #222 "This Legionnaire Is Condemned" December 1976 w: Cary Bates a: Mike Grell Is Tyroc a traitor to the Legion?. "Death of a Legend" December 1976 w: Jim Shooter a: Michael Netzer A legendary hero has a legendary secret. SUPERBOY #223 "We Can't Escape The Trap In Time!" January 1977 w: Jim Shooter a: Mike Grell The Time Trapper returns… but a greater threat hides in the shadows.
There's something wrong with the Lord of Hollywood, the reclusive star of over 100 movies from the Golden Age of Hollywood. On this episode of FW Presents, Ryan Daly and Terry O'Malley review SILVERBLADE #1, the first part of a twelve-issue maxi series by Cary Bates and Gene Colan that has everything from swashbuckling action, horrifying monsters, giant mansions, haunted Maltese falcons, secret assassins, alien spacemen; and it's all on film! Throughout his life, Gene Colan brought his truly unique art style to the pages of Batman, The Tomb of Dracula, Iron Man, Wonder Woman, The Avengers, Howard the Duck, Doctor Strange, The Spectre, and so many others. What issues will Ryan chronicle on this podcast? You’ll have to tune in to find out! Let us know what you think! Leave a comment or send an email to: RDalyPodcast@gmail.com. This podcast is a proud member of the FIRE AND WATER PODCAST NETWORK. Visit our WEBSITE: http://fireandwaterpodcast.com/ Follow us on TWITTER – https://twitter.com/FWPodcasts Like our FACEBOOK page – https://www.facebook.com/FWPodcastNetwork Use our HASHTAG online: #FWPodcasts Subscribe to the FW PRESENTS: Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/fw-presents/id1207382042 Subscribe via other podcatchers: http://feeds.feedburner.com/fwpresents Also available on Stitcher, Spotify and Google Podcasts Support the FIRE AND WATER PODCAST NETWORK on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/fwpodcasts Intro: Gene Colan interview from “The Men Without Fear”; “The Vampire Hunters” by Wojciech Kilar. Additional music: “Main Themes (from Hook)" by John Williams; "Celluloid Heroes" by The Kinks. Thanks for listening!
FKAjason and Roy “Charlemagne” Cleary are back with more classic Booster Gold and Captain Atom! First they discuss “Tortured Options” from Booster Gold (vol 1) #22 by Dan Jurgens, Ty Templeton, Gene D'Angelo, Steve Haynie, and Barbara Randall. It's Booster and the Justice League versus a giant Silly Putty man.After that we check in with Red Tornado and discuss “The Big Blowout” from Captain Atom (vol 1) #16 by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Shelley Eiber, Duncan Andrews, and Dennis O'Neil. Captain Atom fights a hurricane.
FKAjason and Roy “Charlemagne” Cleary are back with more classic Booster Gold and Captain Atom! First they discuss “Tortured Options” from Booster Gold (vol 1) #22 by Dan Jurgens, Ty Templeton, Gene D’Angelo, Steve Haynie, and Barbara Randall. It’s Booster and the Justice League versus a giant Silly Putty man.After that we check in with Red Tornado and discuss “The Big Blowout” from Captain Atom (vol 1) #16 by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Shelley Eiber, Duncan Andrews, and Dennis O’Neil. Captain Atom fights a hurricane.
FKAjason and Roy “Charlemagne” Cleary are back with more classic Booster Gold and Captain Atom! First they discuss “Tortured Options” from Booster Gold (vol 1) #22 by Dan Jurgens, Ty Templeton, Gene D’Angelo, Steve Haynie, and Barbara Randall. It’s Booster and the Justice League versus a giant Silly Putty man.After that we check in with Red Tornado and discuss “The Big Blowout” from Captain Atom (vol 1) #16 by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Shelley Eiber, Duncan Andrews, and Dennis O’Neil. Captain Atom fights a hurricane.
"Holy 68-pages, Batman!" Our panel dives into ADVENTURE COMICS #462 (1979) with 5 features including the death of the Earth-Two Batman by Paul Levtiz and Joe Staton; the Flash by Cary Bates, Don Heck, and Joe Giella; Deadman by Len Wein and Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez; Wonder Woman by Jack C. Harris and Jack Abel; and Aquaman by Paul Kupperberg, Don Heck, and Robert Allen Smith.
Greeting, citizens of Central City! In this episode, comics enthusiasts Chris (@AceComics) and Reggie (@reggiereggie) look at the hobby of comics collecting--as depicted in a comic book, when we read The Flash #268 by Cary Bates and Irv Novick, published in 1978! After the usual biographical information, our plodding speedsters go through every page of the issue and try to figure out what makes The Flash vol. 1 #26 just so darned special! After a little break, our bin-divers discuss the Golden Age issue in question, and then look at a history of cosplay and costuming. You don't want to miss this one, don't let it teleport away! patreon.com/chrisandreggie weirdcomicshistory@gmail.com chrisandreggie.com @cosmictmill weirdsciencedccomics.com chrisisoninfiniteearths.com BREAK: "Comic Book Collecting and History," 1989 https://youtu.be/tqYZFFfF6VI
Greetings, Eternals! In this episode, Brutal Exterminators Chris (@AceComics) and Reggie (@reggiereggie) examine one of the weirdest characters in DC Comics' pantheon: it's Vartox Week! A discussion of every appearance of Vartox, with special concentration on Superman #281 by Cary Bates and Curt Swan, and Power Girl vol. 2 #7 by Jimmy Palmiotti, Justin Gray, and Amanda Conner! Without skimping on the requisite creator bios, our swoon-proof mortals detail every issue in which Vartox appears, even if only for a panel. Plus, they detail the mysterious film origins of this character–both the origins and the film being mysterious! This episode is so chock full, you'll need a Hyper-Ear to listen to it! Be sure to check out Chris' written posts for "Vartox Week," which started this whole mess: https://www.chrisisoninfiniteearths.com/p/vartox-week.html patreon.com/chrisandreggie weirdcomicshistory@gmail.com facebook.com/cosmictmillhistory @cosmictmill weirdcomicshistory.blogspot.com search "weirdcomicshistory" on YouTube BREAK: Trailer for Zardoz (1974) https://youtu.be/UrGOHzsttUo
In the 1970s, there was a version of Star Trek produced that did not feature the original actors. The audio adventures of Star Trek produced by Power Records did have a different cast and featured all-new stories of the crew of the Enterprise. They stand out as something unique in the 1970s. It is the first produced version of Star Trek that featured an entirely new cast. Unfortunately, we don’t know who they are. The voice actors were not listed on the albums and they don’t appear anywhere on the internet. So their identities have been lost through the years. There is more about these stories that we don't know, as well. For instance, these stories were sold with comic books. And the identities of the illustrators and writers for some of them are not listed. But we do know that there were a few big names connected with the stories. Several were written by some notable names like comic book writers Neal Adams, Dick Giordano, John Buscema and Cary Bates. Another writer of these stories was author Alan Dean Foster. He penned the Star Trek Log Books and would go on to create the story for Star Trek - The Motion Picture.
FKAjason and Roy “Charlemagne” Cleary are back again with more classic Booster Gold and Captain Atom! First they discuss “Invasion from Dimension X” from Booster Gold (vol 1) #21 by Dan Jurgens, Ty Templeton, Gene D’Angelo, Steve Haynie, and Barbara Randall. It’s Booster versus some green goons with their green goo. That sounds waaaaaaay dirtier than it is.After that we check in with Major Force and discuss “Slugfest” from Captain Atom (vol 1) #15 by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Nansi Hoolihan, Duncan Andrews, and Dennis O’Neil. Captain Atom crashes Major Force and Dr. Spectro's party and gets his ass handed to him.
FKAjason and Roy “Charlemagne” Cleary are back again with more classic Booster Gold and Captain Atom! First they discuss “Invasion from Dimension X” from Booster Gold (vol 1) #21 by Dan Jurgens, Ty Templeton, Gene D’Angelo, Steve Haynie, and Barbara Randall. It’s Booster versus some green goons with their green goo. That sounds waaaaaaay dirtier than it is.After that we check in with Major Force and discuss “Slugfest” from Captain Atom (vol 1) #15 by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Nansi Hoolihan, Duncan Andrews, and Dennis O’Neil. Captain Atom crashes Major Force and Dr. Spectro's party and gets his ass handed to him.
FKAjason and Roy "Charlemagne" Cleary are finally back with more classic Booster Gold and Captain Atom! First they discuss “The Colors of Justice” from Booster Gold (vol 1) #20 by Dan Jurgens, Arne Starr, Gene D’Angelo, Steve Haynie, and Barbara Randall. It’s Booster still versus the Rainbow Raider, but this time he's blind.After that we check in with Nightshade and discuss “Down Time” from Captain Atom (vol 1) #14 by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Nansi Hoolihan, Duncan Andrews, and Dennis O’Neil. Captain Atom goes job hunting and faces off with the Faceless One with Nightshade.
FKAjason and Roy "Charlemagne" Cleary are finally back with more classic Booster Gold and Captain Atom! First they discuss “The Colors of Justice” from Booster Gold (vol 1) #20 by Dan Jurgens, Arne Starr, Gene D’Angelo, Steve Haynie, and Barbara Randall. It’s Booster still versus the Rainbow Raider, but this time he's blind.After that we check in with Nightshade and discuss “Down Time” from Captain Atom (vol 1) #14 by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Nansi Hoolihan, Duncan Andrews, and Dennis O’Neil. Captain Atom goes job hunting and faces off with the Faceless One with Nightshade.
Action Comics 475 and 476 by Cary Bates and Kurt Schaffenburger
Quarter-Bin Podcast #112DC Retroactive JLA the '70s, DC Comics, cover-dated September 2011."Justice League Prime," written by Cary Bates, with art by Gordon Purcell, Jose Marzan Jr. & Adam Smith.and"Where on Earth Am I?" written by Cary Bates & Elliot S! Maggin, with art by Dick Dillin & Frank McLaughlin.What happens when comic book writers from our world visit worlds with superheroes? How does a 2011 version of a 1970s comic story relate to an actual comics form the 1970s? And what connection does Cary Bates have to Professor Alan?Listen to the episode and find out!Click on the player below to listen to the episode: Right-click to download episode directlyYou may also subscribe to the podcast through iTunes or the RSS Feed.Promo #1: I'm The GunPromo #2: Task Force X Next Episode: Dakota North #1, Marvel Comics, cover-dated June 1986.Send e-mail feedback to relativelygeeky@gmail.com "Like" us on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/relativelygeekyYou can follow the network on Twitter @Relatively_Geek and the host @ProfessorAlanSource: Unknown, signed by Mike W. Barr at Akron Comic Con, 2017.
More classic Booster Gold and Captain Atom! First FKAjason and Roy “Charlemagne” Cleary discuss “Revenge of the Rainbow Raider” from Booster Gold (vol 1) #19 by Dan Jurgens, Al Vey, Gene D’Angelo, Duncan Andrews, and Barbara Randall. It’s Booster versus the Rainbow Raider.After that we warm up some eggnog and discuss “We Three Kings” from Captain Atom (vol 1) #13 by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Nansi Hoolihan, Duncan Andrews, and Dennis O’Neil. Captain Atom spends a morose Christmas season in a bar with Nightshade.
More classic Booster Gold and Captain Atom! First FKAjason and Roy “Charlemagne” Cleary discuss “Revenge of the Rainbow Raider” from Booster Gold (vol 1) #19 by Dan Jurgens, Al Vey, Gene D’Angelo, Duncan Andrews, and Barbara Randall. It’s Booster versus the Rainbow Raider.After that we warm up some eggnog and discuss “We Three Kings” from Captain Atom (vol 1) #13 by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Nansi Hoolihan, Duncan Andrews, and Dennis O’Neil. Captain Atom spends a morose Christmas season in a bar with Nightshade.
We return to classic Booster Gold and Captain Atom! First FKAjason and Roy "Charlemagne" Cleary discuss "Showdown" from Booster Gold (vol 1) #18 by Dan Jurgens, Mike DeCarlo, Gene D'Angelo, John Costanza, Barbara Kesel, and Jerry Ordway. It's Booster versus Broderick, the cop from the future.After that we discuss "The Dark Side of the Force" from Captain Atom (vol 1) Annual #1 by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Carl Gafford, Duncan Andrews, and Dennis O'Neil. Captain Atom meets his match in the form of Major Force.
We return to classic Booster Gold and Captain Atom! First FKAjason and Roy "Charlemagne" Cleary discuss "Showdown" from Booster Gold (vol 1) #18 by Dan Jurgens, Mike DeCarlo, Gene D'Angelo, John Costanza, Barbara Kesel, and Jerry Ordway. It's Booster versus Broderick, the cop from the future.After that we discuss "The Dark Side of the Force" from Captain Atom (vol 1) Annual #1 by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Carl Gafford, Duncan Andrews, and Dennis O'Neil. Captain Atom meets his match in the form of Major Force.
FKAjason and Roy "Charlemagne" Cleary are back to discuss some of their favorite super heroes! First on deck is "Dream of Terror" from Booster Gold (vol 1) #17 by Dan Jurgens, Arne Starr, Gene D'Angelo, Bob Lappan. Barbara Randall, and Bruce D. Patterson. It's Booster, Hawk, and Cheshire having some good clean desert fun. Then the SNGPOD team switches to "Mission Creep" from The Fall and Rise of Captain Atom (vol 1) #6 by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Will Conrad, Ivan Nunes, Saida Temofonte, Kristy Quinn, Jim Chadwick, and Anna Dittman. It's Captain Atom, Ultramax, General Eiling, and Genji having some good clean desert fun.
FKAjason and Roy "Charlemagne" Cleary are back to discuss some of their favorite super heroes! First on deck is "Dream of Terror" from Booster Gold (vol 1) #17 by Dan Jurgens, Arne Starr, Gene D'Angelo, Bob Lappan. Barbara Randall, and Bruce D. Patterson. It's Booster, Hawk, and Cheshire having some good clean desert fun. Then the SNGPOD team switches to "Mission Creep" from The Fall and Rise of Captain Atom (vol 1) #6 by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Will Conrad, Ivan Nunes, Saida Temofonte, Kristy Quinn, Jim Chadwick, and Anna Dittman. It's Captain Atom, Ultramax, General Eiling, and Genji having some good clean desert fun.
It's the third episode of DIGESTCAST and Shag and Rob take a look at DC SPECIAL BLUE RIBBON DIGEST #13 -- Strange Sports Stories! (Sept. 1981) First it's superheroes vs. super-villains in "The Great Super Star Game" by Bob Rozakis, Dick Dillin, and Frank McLaughlin! That's followed by eight pulse-pounding "Strange Sports" stories, featuring work by Denny O'Neil, Cary Bates, Frank Robbins, Dick Giordano, Curt Swan, Irv Novick, and more! Finally, we wrap up with YOUR Listener Feedback! Batter up! Join the conversation and find more great content: Leave comments on our DIGESTCAST website: http://fireandwaterpodcast.com/podcast/digest03 Images from this episode: http://fireandwaterpodcast.com/podcast/digest03-gallery E-MAIL: firewaterpodcast@comcast.net Opening theme music by Luke Daab: http://daabcreative.com. Closing music by Sister Wynona Carr. Subscribe to the DIGESTCAST: Subscribe to DIGESTCAST on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/digestcast/id1193160057 Don’t use iTunes? Use this link for your podcast catcher: http://feeds.feedburner.com/digestcast This episode brought to you by InStockTrades. This week’s selections: 21: THE STORY OF ROBERTO CLEMENTE: http://www.instocktrades.com/TP/Fantagraphics/21-STORY-OF-ROBERTO-CLEMENTE-GN/JUN141217 MARVEL ADVENTURES SPIDER-MAN FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD DIGEST: http://www.instocktrades.com/TP/Marvel/MARVEL-ADV-SPIDER-MAN-TP-FRIENDLY-NEIGHBORHOOD-DIGEST/JUN110748 This podcast is a proud member of the FIRE AND WATER PODCAST NETWORK: Visit the Fire & Water WEBSITE: http://fireandwaterpodcast.com Follow Fire & Water on TWITTER: https://twitter.com/FWPodcasts Like our Fire & Water FACEBOOK page: https://www.facebook.com/FWPodcastNetwork Use our HASHTAG online: #FWPodcasts Thanks for listening! Remember, big things come in small packages!
It's back to classic Booster Gold with "Fresh Start" by Dan Jurgens, Bob Lewis, Albert DeGuzman, and Barbara Randall from Booster Gold (vol 1) #16. Booster moves into his new mansion/headquarters and ticks off no less than three people. Then we cover "Quantum Mechanic" by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Will Conrad, Ivan Nunes, Saida Temofonte, Kristy Quinn, Jim Chadwick, and Steve Rude from the penultimate issue of The Fall and Rise of Captain Atom. Nate finally meets his son, confronts Ultramax, and we learn a little more about the bastard that is General Eiling.
It's back to classic Booster Gold with "Fresh Start" by Dan Jurgens, Bob Lewis, Albert DeGuzman, and Barbara Randall from Booster Gold (vol 1) #16. Booster moves into his new mansion/headquarters and ticks off no less than three people. Then we cover "Quantum Mechanic" by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Will Conrad, Ivan Nunes, Saida Temofonte, Kristy Quinn, Jim Chadwick, and Steve Rude from the penultimate issue of The Fall and Rise of Captain Atom. Nate finally meets his son, confronts Ultramaxx, and we learn a little more about the bastard that is General Eiling.
Sorry for the delay, folks. Life gets in the way of podcasting sometimes. With that said, OMG April was a great month for both our heroes!First we had “Booster Trouble” by Mark Russell, Rick Leonardi, Scott Hanna, Steve Buccellato, Dave Sharpe, Marie Javins, Brittany Holzherr, Michael Allred, Laura Allred, Dan Jurgens, Norm Rapmund, and Hi-Fi Design from Booster Gold/The Flinstones Special #1. Yep, a new Booster Gold comic!Then there was “Shock and Awe” by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Will Conrad, Ivan Nunes, Saida Temofonte, Jim Chadwick, Kristy Quinn, Bobbie Chase, and Carlos D’Anda from The Fall and Rise of Captain Atom #4. Yep, a new Captain Atom comic!Our excitement will not be contained. Listen now!
Sorry for the delay, folks. Life gets in the way of podcasting sometimes. With that said, OMG April was a great month for both our heroes!First we had "Booster Trouble" by Mark Russell, Rick Leonardi, Scott Hanna, Steve Buccellato, Dave Sharpe, Marie Javins, Brittany Holzherr, Michael Allred, Laura Allred, Dan Jurgens, Norm Rapmund, and Hi-Fi Design from Booster Gold/The Flinstones Special #1. Yep, a new Booster Gold comic!Then there was "Shock and Awe" by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Will Conrad, Ivan Nunes, Saida Temofonte, Jim Chadwick, Kristy Quinn, Bobbie Chase, and Carlos D'Anda from The Fall and Rise of Captain Atom #4. Yep, a new Captain Atom comic!Our excitement will not be contained. Listen now!
One last "missing" episode from our archives that we are bringing back to you! Originally released on January 26th, 2015. The CBBears present to you the second of our special satellite episodes. This time around regular co-host Bill Zanowitz is joined by Michael Myers of the Valiant Podcast, DC Noise and Geek Brunch! Mike and Billy Z came to be comic fans at the same time and they will present their argument that 1973 was a GREAT year to enter the world of four color heroes! Through this episode you will hear them recount how they came to start reading and collecting, what it was like to experience the premiere episode of Super Friends, the magic that was the Mego World's Greatest Super-Heroes action figure line and what their early and long-time favorites were and are. Some of those favorites - 100 Page Super Spectaculars, The Defenders, Justice League of America, OMAC, The Flash, Spider-Man, Jack Kirby, Mike Grell, Cary Bates, Len Wein and much, much, much more! And, in keeping with the tradition of the their respective podcasts, Mike and Billy Z's involvement insures that there will be tangents galore!
Roy "Charlemagne" Cleary and FKAjason return to review "A Future Lost" from Booster Gold (vol 1) #14 by Dan Jurgens, Mike DeCarlo, John Costanza, Gene D'Angelo, and Barbara Randall. Booster's in the future and on the run from the cops.Then we review "Past Imperfect" from The Fall and Rise of Captain Atom (vol 1) #2 by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Will Conrad, Ivan Nunes, Saida Temofonte, Kristy Quinn, and Jim Chadwick. Lost in time, Captain Atom tries to make a new life for himself with disastrous results.
Roy "Charlemagne" Cleary and FKAjason return to review "A Future Lost" from Booster Gold (vol 1) #14 by Dan Jurgens, Mike DeCarlo, John Costanza, Gene D'Angelo, and Barbara Randall. Booster's in the future and on the run from the cops.Then we review "Past Imperfect" from The Fall and Rise of Captain Atom (vol 1) #2 by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Will Conrad, Ivan Nunes, Saida Temofonte, Kristy Quinn, and Jim Chadwick. Lost in time, Captain Atom tries to make a new life for himself with disastrous results.
Justice League of America: The Atom - Rebirth, Fall and Rise of Captain Atom 1, Unstoppable Wasp 1, Deadpool the Duck 1, USAvengers 1, Captain America, Secret Empire, Digital Codes, Over-shipping, Spider-Man, Scarlet Spider, Nick Fury by James Robinson and Aco, Geoff Johns, Watchmen, Alterna, Star Wars: Heroes for a New Hope (Princess Leia, Chewbacca, Lando, C3PO, Shattered Empire). Details: Justice League of America: The Atom - Rebirth by Steve Orlando, Andy MacDonald, John Rauch; Fall and Rise of Captain Atom 1 by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Will Conrad, Ivan Nunes; Unstoppable Wasp 1 by Jeremy Whitley, Elsa Charretier, Megan Wilson; Deadpool the Duck 1 by Stuart Moore, Jacopo Camagni, Israel Silva; USAvengers 1 by Al Ewing, Paco Medina, Juan Vlasco, Jesus Aburtov 04 Jan 2017 Comics Countdown: 10. Old Man Logan 16 by Jeff Lemire, Andrea Sorrentino, Marcelo Maiolo 9. Justice League 12 by Tim Seeley, Christian Duce Fernandez, Mat Lopes 8. Hawkeye 2 by Kelly Thompson, Leonardo Romero, Jordie Bellaire 7. Unworthy Thor 3 by Jason Aaron, Olivier Coipel, Kim Jacinto, Matt Wilson 6. Midnighter and Apollo 4 by Steve Orlando, Fernando Blanco, Romulo Fajardo Jr. 5. Nailbiter 28 by Joshua Williamson, Mike Henderson, Adam Guzowski 4. Batman 14 by Tom King, Mitch Gerads 3. Black Science 27 by Rick Remender, Matteo Scalera, Moreno Dinisio 2. Justice League of America: The Atom - Rebirth by Steve Orlando, Andy MacDonald, John Rauch 1. Moon Knight 10 by Jeff Lemire, Greg Smallwood, Jordie Bellaire
The wait is over. In this episode, Roy and Jay review "Blowback" from The Fall and Rise of Captain Atom (vol 1) #1 by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Will Conrad, Ivan Nunes, Saida Temofonte, Jason Badower, Kristy Quinn, Gabriel Hardman, Jordan Boyd, and Jim Chadwick. The New 52 Captain Atom can't live with guilt and does something drastic.We also review "The Tomorrow Run" from ?Booster Gold? (v0l 1) #13 by Dan Jurgens, Gary Martin, Gene D'Angelo, Bob Lappan, and Barbara Randall. Sick with a future bug, Booster enlists the help of Rip Hunter and Goldstar to travel back to the future for a cure.
The wait is over. In this episode, Roy and Jay review "Blowback" from The Fall and Rise of Captain Atom (vol 1) #1 by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Will Conrad, Ivan Nunes, Saida Temofonte, Jason Badower, Kristy Quinn, Gabriel Hardman, Jordan Boyd, and Jim Chadwick. The New 52 Captain Atom can't live with guilt and does something drastic.We also review "The Tomorrow Run" from ?Booster Gold? (v0l 1) #13 by Dan Jurgens, Gary Martin, Gene D'Angelo, Bob Lappan, and Barbara Randall. Sick with a future bug, Booster enlists the help of Rip Hunter and Goldstar to travel back to the future for a cure.
Captain Atom was seen in the New 52, but has not made an appearance in Rebirth. What's up with that? We try to figure it out in this week's Dueling Review of The Fall and Rise of Captain Atom #1. Show your thanks to Major Spoilers for this episode by becoming a Major Spoilers Patron at patreon.com/MajorSpoilers. It will help ensure Dueling Reviews continues far into the future! FALL AND RISE OF CAPTAIN ATOM #1 Written by: Cary Bates, Greg Weisman Art by: Will Conrad “Blowback” part one! Captain Atom hasn’t been seen or heard from in years—and even if you think you know what happened to him…you’re wrong! But you’re not alone. To this day, no one on Earth—not even the other superheroes—has an inkling of the missing Captain Atom’s true fate. At last, the truth is about to be revealed in a saga that transcends not only the meaning of life and death, but the limits of time and space.
Captain Atom was seen in the New 52, but has not made an appearance in Rebirth. What's up with that? We try to figure it out in this week's Dueling Review of The Fall and Rise of Captain Atom #1. Show your thanks to Major Spoilers for this episode by becoming a Major Spoilers Patron at patreon.com/MajorSpoilers. It will help ensure Dueling Reviews continues far into the future! FALL AND RISE OF CAPTAIN ATOM #1 Written by: Cary Bates, Greg Weisman Art by: Will Conrad “Blowback” part one! Captain Atom hasn’t been seen or heard from in years—and even if you think you know what happened to him…you’re wrong! But you’re not alone. To this day, no one on Earth—not even the other superheroes—has an inkling of the missing Captain Atom’s true fate. At last, the truth is about to be revealed in a saga that transcends not only the meaning of life and death, but the limits of time and space.
It's 10/10 so FKAjason and Roy “Charlemagne” Cleary are ready to talk about some old “number 10” comics! First we revisit Booster Gold (v0l 1) #9 with Herb Fung! Then join us for “Death Grip of the 1,000” by Dan Jurgens, Mike DeCarlo, Gene D’Angelo, Augustin Mas, Barbara Randall, and Alan Gold from Booster Gold (vol 1) #10. Hang around after that for “Wish You Were Here” by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Carl Gafford, Duncan Andrews, and Denny O’Neil from Captain Atom (DC, vol 1) #10.
It's 10/10 so FKAjason and Roy “Charlemagne” Cleary are ready to talk about some old “number 10” comics! First we revisit Booster Gold (v0l 1) #9 with Herb Fung! Then join us for “Death Grip of the 1,000” by Dan Jurgens, Mike DeCarlo, Gene D’Angelo, Augustin Mas, Barbara Randall, and Alan Gold from Booster Gold (vol 1) #10. Hang around after that for “Wish You Were Here” by Cary Bates, Greg Weisman, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Carl Gafford, Duncan Andrews, and Denny O’Neil from Captain Atom (DC, vol 1) #10.
The ninth day of the ninth month can only mean that FKAjason and Roy "Charlemagne" Cleary are ready to talk about some old "number 9" comic books! Join us for "Time Bridge Part II" by Dan Jurgens, Mike DeCarlo, Gene D'Angelo, John Costanza, and Alan Gold from Booster Gold (vol 1) #9. Then stick around as we pick at "Blood and Betrayal" by Cary Bates, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Carl Gafford, Duncan Andrews, and Denny O'Neil from Captain Atom (DC, vol 1) #9.Guest Stars: Brainiac 5, Chameleon Boy, Ultra Boy, Senator Ballard, Director of the 1000, Bolt, Chiller, and Ronald Reagan.Silver & Gold Watch: A quick reminder in the pages of Firestorm: The Nuclear Man (vol 1) #64 of how Captain Atom trounced the "nuclear man," and both Booster and Cap appear in the pages of Who's Who Update '87 #3.Remember to use the hashtag #SNGPOD when commenting on social media!Follow us on Twitter! (@SNGPOD4779)
The ninth day of the ninth month can only mean that FKAjason and Roy "Charlemagne" Cleary are ready to talk about some old "number 9" comic books! Join us for "Time Bridge Part II" by Dan Jurgens, Mike DeCarlo, Gene D'Angelo, John Costanza, and Alan Gold from Booster Gold (vol 1) #9. Then stick around as we pick at "Blood and Betrayal" by Cary Bates, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Carl Gafford, Duncan Andrews, and Denny O'Neil from Captain Atom (DC, vol 1) #9.Guest Stars: Brainiac 5, Chameleon Boy, Ultra Boy, Senator Ballard, Director of the 1000, Bolt, Chiller, and Ronald Reagan.Silver & Gold Watch: A quick reminder in the pages of Firestorm: The Nuclear Man (vol 1) #64 of how Captain Atom trounced the "nuclear man," and both Booster and Cap appear in the pages of Who's Who Update '87 #3.Remember to use the hashtag #SNGPOD when commenting on social media!Follow us on Twitter! (@SNGPOD4779)
Mario Muscar and Zack Kruse join us to discuss The Strain, Noah Van Sciver's Disquiet from Fantagraphics, Predator Vs. Judge Dredd Vs. Aliens by John Layman, Chris Mooneyham, Michael Atiyeh, and Glenn Fabry from IDW and Dark Horse, Big Kids by Michael Deforge from Drawn & Quarterly, Superman: Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? by Alan Moore and Curt Swan, Dave Gibbons, Rick Veitch, George Perez, Kurt Schaffenberger, Al Williamson, Gene D'Angelo, Tom Ziuko, and Tatjana Wood, Superman Vs. Spider-Man, Superman Family #181 by Cary Bates, Jose Delbo, and Vince Colletta, Dark Knight III: The Master Race #5 by FRANK MILLER, Brian Azzarello, Andy Kubert, and Klaus Janson, Blue Beetle: Reborn #1 by Keith Giffen, Scott Kolins, and Romulo Fajardo Jr., Generation Zero #1 by Fred Van Lente and Francis Portela from Valiant, Unflattening by Nick Sousanis from The Harvard University Press, Eric Powell's Hillbilly from Albatross, Frank Miller's Daredevil and the Ends of Heroism by Paul Young from Rutger's University Press, Cage by Brian Azzarello, Richard Corben, and Jose Villarubia, plus a whole mess more!
In this episode of SNGPOD, Roy and Jay review Time Bridge (Part I of II) from Booster Gold (vol 1) #8 by Dan Jurgens, Mike DeCarlo, Gene D'Angelo, Augustin Mas, and Alan Gold. We also review Live or Let Die? from Captain Atom (vol 1, DC) #8 by Cary Bates, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Carl Gafford, Duncan Andrews, and Dennis O'Neil.Guest Stars: Brainiac 5, Chameleon Boy, Ultra Boy, Senator Ballard, Director of the 1000, the Cambodian, Plastique, Chiller, and Ronald ReaganSilver Watch: Captain Atom vs Firestorm (again).Remember to use the hashtag #SNGPOD when commenting on social media!Follow us on Twitter! (@SNGPOD4779)
In this episode of SNGPOD, Roy and Jay review Time Bridge (Part I of II) from Booster Gold (vol 1) #8 by Dan Jurgens, Mike DeCarlo, Gene D'Angelo, Augustin Mas, and Alan Gold. We also review Live or Let Die?from Captain Atom (vol 1, DC) #8 by Cary Bates, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Carl Gafford, Duncan Andrews, and Dennis O'Neil.Guest Stars: Brainiac 5, Chameleon Boy, Ultra Boy, Senator Ballard, Director of the 1000, the Cambodian, Plastique, Chiller, and Ronald ReaganSilver Watch: Captain Atom vs Firestorm (again).Remember to use the hashtag #SNGPOD when commenting on social media!Follow us on Twitter! (@SNGPOD4779)
Superman teaches Booster Gold a harsh lesson with his fists in Booster Gold (vol 1) #7 by Dan Jurgens, Mike DeCarlo, Gene D'Angelo, Augustin Mas, and Alan Gold. Captain Atom gets sucker-stabbed by the Mongolian while he's chatting up Plastique in Captain Atom (DC, vol 1) #7 by Cary Bates, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Carl Gafford, Duncan Andrews, and Dennis O'Neil. And Roy and Jay are there to talk about it!
Superman teaches Booster Gold a harsh lesson with his fists in Booster Gold (vol 1) #7 by Dan Jurgens, Mike DeCarlo, Gene D'Angelo, Augustin Mas, and Alan Gold. Captain Atom gets sucker-stabbed by the Mongolian while he's chatting up Plastique in Captain Atom (DC, vol 1) #7 by Cary Bates, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Carl Gafford, Duncan Andrews, and Dennis O'Neil. And Roy and Jay are there to talk about it!
Like Julius Caesar in 49 BC, FKAjason and Roy "Charlemagne" Cleary cross the Rubicon with Booster Gold, Skeets, Superman, and their new pal Z. Finally, the origin of Booster Gold is revealed by Dan Jurgens, Mike DeCarlo, Nansi Hoolahan, Augustin Mas, and Alan Gold. We then turn our sights on the new Doctor Spectro trying to get a piece of Captain Atom's lie with Cary Bates, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Carl Gafford, Duncan Andrews, and Dennis O'Neil. All of this and more are found in today's reviews of Booster Gold (vol 1) #6, and Captain Atom (DC, vol 1) #6. Plus, your listener feedback!
Like Julius Caesar in 49 BC, FKAjason and Roy "Charlemagne" Cleary cross the Rubicon with Booster Gold, Skeets, Superman, and their new pal Z. Finally, the origin of Booster Gold is revealed by Dan Jurgens, Mike DeCarlo, Nansi Hoolahan, Augustin Mas, and Alan Gold. We then turn our sights on the new Doctor Spectro trying to get a piece of Captain Atom's lie with Cary Bates, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Carl Gafford, Duncan Andrews, and Dennis O'Neil. All of this and more are found in today's reviews of Booster Gold (vol 1) #6, and Captain Atom (DC, vol 1) #6. Plus, your listener feedback!
Captain Atom faces off with Firestorm, the Nuclear Man! Dr. Spectro faces off with a journalist! Booster Gold faces off with a killer zamboni and the Metropolis hockey team! So many face offs we had to call in the Irredeemable Shag to help us out. We review the Booster Gold (vol 1) #5 story "Face Off" (by the creative team of Dan Jurgens, Mike DeCarlo, Nansi Hoolahan, Augustin Mas, and Janice Race) and the Captain Atom (DC, vol 1) #5 story "The Return of Dr. Spectro" (by the creative team of Cary Bates, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Bob Le Rose, Augustin Mas, and Dennis O'Neill).
Captain Atom faces off with Firestorm, the Nuclear Man! Dr. Spectro faces off with a journalist! Booster Gold faces off with a killer zamboni and the Metropolis hockey team! So many face offs we had to call in the Irredeemable Shag to help us out. We review the Booster Gold (vol 1) #5 story "Face Off" (by the creative team of Dan Jurgens, Mike DeCarlo, Nansi Hoolahan, Augustin Mas, and Janice Race) and the Captain Atom (DC, vol 1) #5 story "The Return of Dr. Spectro" (by the creative team of Cary Bates, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Bob Le Rose, Augustin Mas, and Dennis O'Neill).
This time out, Jay and Roy review Booster Gold (vol 1) #4 by Dan Jurgens, Mike DeCarlo, Nansi Hoolahan, and Augustin Mas. Thorn, Booster, and Skeets battle Mindancer, Blackgaurd, and the 1,000. Then we review Captain Atom (DC, vol 1) #4 by Cary Bates, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Carl Gafford, and Augustin Mas. Nathaniel Adam is finally reunited with his daughter after his 18-year-absence. Plus, scads of your listener feedback!
This time out, Jay and Roy review Booster Gold (vol 1) #4 by Dan Jurgens, Mike DeCarlo, Nansi Hoolahan, and Augustin Mas. Thorn, Booster, and Skeets battle Mindancer, Blackgaurd, and the 1,000. Then we review Captain Atom (DC, vol 1) #4 by Cary Bates, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Carl Gafford, and Augustin Mas. Nathaniel Adam is finally reunited with his daughter after his 18-year-absence. Plus, scads of your listener feedback!
In episode 05 of the Silver & Gold Podcast, we discuss Booster Gold (Vol 1) #3, The Night Has Two-Thousand Eyes (by Dan Jurgens, Mike DeCarlo, Nansi Hoolahan, and Augustin Mas), and Captain Atom (DC Vol 1) #3, Blast from the Past (by Cary Bates, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Carl Gafford, and John Costanza). Also, FKAjason and Charlemagne's secret origins are revealed, that's what friends are for, Booster in peril, Thorn's fashion choices, The Love Boat, Booster Gold looks like an idiot, typical Eddie, a wall of balls, Mindancer's brain bolt, Firestorm as the star of the book, Captain Atom's creepy meeting with his daughter, and Nate going critical.
In episode 05 of the Silver & Gold Podcast, we discuss Booster Gold (Vol 1) #3, The Night Has Two-Thousand Eyes (by Dan Jurgens, Mike DeCarlo, Nansi Hoolahan, and Augustin Mas), and Captain Atom (DC Vol 1) #3, Blast from the Past (by Cary Bates, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Carl Gafford, and John Costanza). Also, FKAjason and Charlemagne's secret origins are revealed, that's what friends are for, Booster in peril, Thorn's fashion choices, The Love Boat, Booster Gold looks like an idiot, typical Eddie, a wall of balls, Mindancer's brain bolt, Firestorm as the star of the book, Captain Atom's creepy meeting with his daughter, and Nate going critical.
In this episode of Silver & Gold, we discuss what I like to call "Captain Atom versus the French Canadian Separatists." After a brief discussion about Captain Atom's junk, we review Captain Atom (vol 1, DC) #02 by Cary Bates, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Carl Gafford, and John Costanza.
In this episode of Silver & Gold, we discuss what I like to call "Captain Atom versus the French Canadian Separatists." After a brief discussion about Captain Atom's junk, we review Captain Atom (vol 1, DC) #02 by Cary Bates, Pat Broderick, Bob Smith, Carl Gafford, and John Costanza.
Joseph is off tending to Gini, so I again fly solo. And a day late. Whatchagunnado?Anyway, Phoenix ComiCon happened. Oh boy did it happen. We are still recovering from it. I give you bits of Con goodness, like my lovely lovely Spider-goyle, Kaiju gifts, nice ladies in full dresses with books, and a panel I may or may not talk about. And the short version of talking to Mike Grell and Michael Golden.And Andy Kubert and the Kubert School of Graphic Art. (I may have dropped an f-bomb or five during that part.)I try to save the rest for when Joseph can join me.I do have a couple rumors going around, one about Star Trek and the other about the DC Movie franchise. Also, if anyone is playing RPGs, hear my cry.I thank you all for hanging with me this week, and we look forward to catching you next time as well!This week's comic book storytime is 1977 5 Star Super-Hero Spectacular How To Prevent a Flash, by Cary Bates, Irv Novick and Frank McLaughlinMore Geek Than Gay on Twitter - twitter.com/MoreGeekThanGay on FaceBook - www.facebook.com/MoreGeekThanGayCompete Sports Magazine - competenetwork.com/magazineJoshua Tree Feeding Program - www.jtfp.orgThe Hero Initiative - www.heroinitiative.orgSkullastic - www.skullastic.comRed Nebula Studios - www.rednebulastudios.com
The Subs take a look at Action Comics, issues 387 and 389, as the Legion writing chores passed from E Nelson Bridwell to Cary Bates. The guys discuss Cary’s long writing career, and dig into a story that explains the limitations on the size of the Legion roster, and then find out which Legionnaire was […]
As the saying goes you don't know where you're going if you don't know where you've been. We explore the past and future changes at DC Comics. Pasko wrote the history for the 2007 DC Vault, and researched more material for last year's 75th anniversary Tashen book. You'll hear about Marty's 1970's DC retroactive Superman story, but also learn about deacdes of chnages and innovations to many of DC's top stars. From the stress filled stomach aches suffered by Wonder Woman editors when they got salacious stories from her creator William Moulton Martsers. Pasko and Cary Bates were given the task of coaching Mario Puzzo in Superman lore while Puzzo prepared to write the 1978 first screenplay draft for the Richard Donner film. You'll learn how editor Julie Schwartz revamped Batman in 1966, to catch the eye of television producer William Dozier and led to him craeting the ABC Batman TV show.Then Vaneta Rogers Of Newsarama is back to talk about the coming changes in the DCNU. Rogers has interviewed nearly all of the craetors involved in the relaunch,and between us we try to put the pieces together to figure out what may be in store for readers this September.
After a quick apology to Van Plexico for a good later in the episode Michael continues his delayed conversation with Keith Dallas. After a bit on the late seventies history of DC Comics Michael and Keith begin talking about various eras of the Flash including Cary Bates' run and the adventures of Wally West as written by Mike Baron, William Messner-Loebs and Mark Waid. Things wrap up with some talk of the 1990/91 live action FLASH television series. Remember that Keith is the editor and head writer of the FLASH COMPANION, which will hopefully come out in July from TwoMorrows Publishing.
After a quick apology to Van Plexico for a good later in the episode Michael continues his delayed conversation with Keith Dallas. After a bit on the late seventies history of DC Comics Michael and Keith begin talking about various eras of the Flash including Cary Bates' run and the adventures of Wally West as written by Mike Baron, William Messner-Loebs and Mark Waid. Things wrap up with some talk of the 1990/91 live action FLASH television series. Remember that Keith is the editor and head writer of the FLASH COMPANION, which will hopefully come out in July from TwoMorrows Publishing.
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