Podcast appearances and mentions of Mark Jones

Mark Jones is joined in the studio by Ian Doyle and Paul Gorst for the latest episode of the Blood Red Podcast as they discuss the closing days of Liverpool's transfer window, potential incoming targets, Champions League draw and the general mood around the squad. On Today's Show: Transfer Window Deadline Looming: Mark Jones, Ian Doyle and Paul Gorst dive into Liverpool's transfer strategy as the transfer deadline approaches. The panel discusses current negotiations, potential additions to strengthen key positions like the forward line, and whether the club can finalise deals before the window closes. Squad Evolution & Transition: The team analyses Liverpool's broader squad reshaping, examining how new additions fit into the system alongside established core players, and discussing the high expectations for the season ahead. The Champions League Draw: Liverpool's Champions League fixtures were recently released with a few tasty ties and big away days on the horizon.

This week, Stone county native, Ozark original and our very own traditional folk music legend Pam Setser, recorded live at the Ozark Folk Center State Park. Also, interviews with this Ozark icon. Pam Setser is an award winning multi-instrumentalist extraordinaire. It's not just her musical talent that will catch your heart but her angelic voice as well. Setser has played at many venues including Louisiana Hayride, Hee Haw, The Ralph Emery Show, Jay Leno, and You Can Be A Star. Not to mention playing in Washington D.C. for President Clinton, and winning third place in the National Wrangler Country Showdown at the Grand Old Opry in Nashville, Tennessee. From the first time you hear Pam Setser perform, you will want to hear her again and again. http://pamsetser.com In this week's “From the Vault” segment, musician, educator and country music legacy Mark Jones offers a 1979 archival recording of Ozark folk icon Almeda Riddle, performing the traditional tune “Pretty Peggy-O,” from the Ozark Folk Center State Park archives. In this week's guest host segment, renowned traditional folk musician, writer and step dancer Aubrey Atwater waxes poetic in her discussion about songs of undying love. The segment features the most beautiful of all love songs ever conceived, “The Blackest Crow.”

Join Richard Garnett and Mark Jones on the Blood Red Podcast as they dissect Andoni Iraola's first official Premier League pre-match press conference as Liverpool head coach ahead of the Reds' season opener against Newcastle United at St James' Park. The panel breaks down the new manager's key talking points, detailing squad fitness updates, tactical changes under the new regime, and where things stand with late summer transfer business heading into matchday one. EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/bloodred Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee. Have Your Say, Reds! What was your biggest takeaway from Iraola's press conference? How should Liverpool line up against Newcastle? Drop your thoughts and score predictions in the comments below!

In the final hour of the show Dave talks with Kings TV play by play man Mark Jones about Russell Westbrook and the Kings, tells you What's On Deck, and ends with Celebrity Birthdays with Matt George and Kayla Anderson.

Send us Fan MailWhat separates a licensed real estate agent from a real producer?In Real Estate AF Episode 163, Mark Jones sits down with Jason Smith of San Antonio Real Producers and Miguel Herrera of The Agency San Antonio to move past the complaints and talk solutions: how agents turn pressure into production and panic into a real pivot.This conversation covers:• Why 2020–2022 created “order takers” who never had to build the fundamentals• Why a difficult market can still create opportunity• Why luxury is driven by relationships, trust, brand and experience—not simply lead generation• How Miguel built a career by finding a niche and going where the buyers were• Why top agents tell clients what they need to hear, not what they want to hear• How coaching, work ethic, pricing discipline and long-term relationships separate producers from pretenders• A rapid-fire “Producer or Pretender?” segment• A direct closing challenge: Somebody will win in this market—why not you?GUESTSJason Smith — Publisher, San Antonio Real Producers; small-business coach and consultanthttps://www.realproducersmag.com/locations/san-antonio-real-producers-89cc/Miguel Herrera — Luxury real estate producer and brokerage leader, The Agency San Antoniohttps://miguelherrera.theagencyresa.com/HOSTMark Jones | NMLS #513437Branch Manager | Sr. Mortgage Lender(210)683-1481https://mortgagetalkwithmark.com/Powered by LoanBot — smarter mortgage matching.QUESTION FOR YOU- Are you producing, pivoting or pretending right now?- Leave one action you are taking in the next 24 hours in the comments.Subscribe, share this episode with an agent who needs to hear it and turn on notifications for more unfiltered real estate and mortgage conversations.This program is for education and entertainment only. Guest statements and opinions are their own.#RealEstateAF #RealEstatePodcast #TopProducerCHANNEL & MORTGAGE DISCLOSUREMark Jones | Sr. Mortgage Loan Officer | Branch ManagerNMLS #513437iThink Mortgage powered by Premier Mortgage ResourcesPremier Mortgage Resources, LLC | Company NMLS #1169Equal Housing OpportunityAll content is provided for educational and informational purposes only and is not financial, legal or tax advice. Nothing presented constitutes a commitment to lend, guarantee of approval, rate quote, offer to extend credit or representation that any particular loan program is available or appropriate for every borrower.All loans are subject to borrower qualification, credit approval, income and asset verification, underwriting requirements, acceptable property conditions, program eligibility and applicable federal and state regulations. Interest rates, loan programs, guidelines, costs, terms and availability are subject to change without notice and may vary based on borrower qualifications, property type, loan amount and market conditions.Opinions expressed by Mark Jones are his own and may not represent the views of Premier Mortgage Resources, LLC. Guest opinions and statements belong solely to the individual guests. Guest participation does not constitute an endorsement, referral arrangement or guarantee of any service.No compensation is paid or received for the referral of settlement-service business in violation of the Real Estate Settlement Procedures Act. Any businesses, professionals or services discussed are mentioned for educational or editorial purposes unless expressly disclosed otherwise.Mortgage scenarios, payment examples and financial illustrations discussed may be hypothetical and should not be interpreted as a personalized loan estimate, rate quote or determination of borrower eligibility.LoanBot and any AI-powered tools referenced are educational and informational resources only. They do not approve loans, make underwriting decisions or replace consultation with a licensed mortgage professional.MortgageTalkWithMark.comCHAPTERS00:00 Opening: From Pressure to Production01:12 Meet Jason Smith and Miguel Herrera04:56 Luxury Is a Mindset10:07 Bad Market or Opportunity?20:46 The Agent Production Gap22:54 COVID-Era “Order Takers”28:07 Solutions: Work, Training and Collaboration38:15 This Isn't 2008—Find Your Niche50:46 Luxury Clients, Pricing and Authority58:53 What Top Producers Do Differently1:07:58 Producer or Pretender? Rapid Fire1:15:07 Final Motivation: Why Not You?Support the showRealEstateAF is Powered by LoanBot.com Host: Mark Jones | Sr. Loan Officer | NMLS# 513437 If you would like to work with Mark on your next home purchase or as a partner visit iThink Mortgage.

Mark Jones is joined in the studio by Ian Doyle for the latest episode of the Blood Red Podcast as they discuss the lull in Liverpool's transfer window, Mo Salah's surprise move to Trabzonspor and Liverpool's clash with Monaco this coming weekend at Anfield. On Today's Show: Transfer Frustration: With two weeks until the Premier League season kicks off, Liverpool fans are growing increasingly anxious over the lack of incoming transfers. Despite spending heavy funds in recent windows, persistent defensive injuries and key positional gaps leave the squad looking dangerously thin heading into the opening fixtures. Salah's Shock Move to Turkey: End of an era at Anfield as Mohamed Salah officially seals a surprising move to Turkish side Trabzonspor. The boys reflects on Salah's legendary Liverpool career, why major European heavyweights missed out, and whether moving on was ultimately the right move for both player and club. Liverpool vs. Monaco Preview: The Reds prepare for their pre-season friendly at home against AS Monaco. With international stars like Alisson, Virgil van Dijk, and Cody Gakpo returning to full training alongside new signing Victor Muñoz, Mark Jones and Ian Doyle predict who gets minutes and how the team is shaping up ahead of the new campaign.

Send us Fan MailMortgage companies are recruiting Realtors to obtain MLO licenses and earn mortgage-side compensation. Is this smart vertical integration—or could it create a RESPA problem?In this episode of RealEstateAF, Mark Jones sits down with San Antonio independent mortgage broker John Hudson, who brings nearly 29 years of mortgage experience, to examine the growing Realtor-to-MLO trend.We are not arguing that Realtors should never become loan officers. Texas permits someone to serve in both roles under certain conditions. The real question is what the person is being paid to do.Is the Realtor performing real, necessary and documented mortgage-origination services—or is an MLO license being used as a wrapper around a paid referral?THE CENTRAL TAKEAWAY:A license may authorize someone to perform mortgage work. It does not automatically make a referral compensable. The actual mortgage work matters.IN THIS EPISODE:• Why Realtors and mortgage companies are exploring new revenue streams• How a tougher housing market helped create this trend• The difference between a referral and legitimate origination work• Why “limited extra effort” is a major warning sign• RESPA Section 8 and unearned-fee concerns• Consumer steering, divided loyalty and lender choice• Whether the borrower is actually receiving better pricing• Builder incentives and the payment-first sales strategy• Gen Z buyers and down-payment-assistance opportunities• Why fundamentals may generate more income than dual licensing• Questions every Realtor should ask before joining one of these programsQUESTIONS REALTORS SHOULD ASK:• What exact mortgage responsibilities will I perform?• Who will supervise and train me?• Who is responsible for compliance?• Who will actually structure and complete the loan?• What happens when a loan is transferred to another originator?• Can my client freely select another lender?• Will I be expected to recommend this company to every client?• Has my real estate broker approved the arrangement?• Does the lender or investor permit the dual role?• Is my compensation different on down-payment-assistance loans?• Would this arrangement still make sense without my personal leads?Mark's position:“I'm not against Realtors becoming serious mortgage professionals. I'm against Realtors obtaining an MLO license for the sole purpose of receiving compensation for handing the transaction to someone else.”ABOUT THE GUEST:John HudsonIndependent Mortgage Broker | San Antonio, Texashttps://hmmtg.com/john-hudson/POWERED BY:LoanBot — Smarter Mortgage MatchingLoanbot.comCONNECT WITH MARK:https://mortgagetalkwithmark.comPRIMARY RESOURCES:CFPB — RESPA Section 8 FAQs:https://www.consumerfinance.gov/compliance/compliance-resources/mortgage-resources/real-estate-settlement-procedures-act/real-estate-settlement-procedures-act-faqs/CFPB — Regulation X §1024.14:https://www.consumerfinance.gov/rules-policy/regulations/1024/14/Texas Department of Savings and Mortgage Lending:https://www.sml.texas.gov/mortgage-origination/faqs/Texas Real Estate Commission Rules:https://www.trec.texas.gov/agency-information/rules-and-laws/trec-rulesData, rates, programs and market conditions discussed were current as of the recording date and may have changed.DISCLAIMER:This program is provided for education and entertainment only. It is not legal, compliance, tax, financial, real estate or individualized mortgage advice. The opinions expressed by the host and guest are their own. Discussion of marketing materials or business models should not be interpreted as an allegation that any particular company or individual violated the law. Mortgage programs, rates, terms and eligibility requirements are subject to change and underwriting approval.Mark Jones | NMLS #513437iThink Mortgage powered by Premier Mortgage Resources LLC | NMLS #1169Equal Housing Lender#RealEstateAF #RESPA #MortgageIndustry00:00 The Realtor-to-MLO controversy04:55 The RESPA line: referral vs. real mortgage work09:40 Why this trend is growing now20:15 Mortgage rates and the housing lock-in effect28:10 The “limited extra effort” recruiting pitch35:10 Does the consumer actually get a better deal?37:35 How builders are winning payment-sensitive buyers45:55 Gen Z, FHA and down-payment assistance53:30 Shortcuts have ceilings—fundamentals don't57:30 Questions Realtors must ask and our final verdictSupport the showRealEstateAF is Powered by LoanBot.com Host: Mark Jones | Sr. Loan Officer | NMLS# 513437 If you would like to work with Mark on your next home purchase or as a partner visit iThink Mortgage.

What happens when a tourism brand stops apologising for its perceived weaknesses and turns them into its greatest strength?  In this episode of The CMO Show, host Mark Jones sits down with Lindene Cleary, Chief Marketing Officer at Tourism Tasmania, to unpack the strategy behind one of Australia's most distinctive and effective destination marketing platforms: Come down for Air and its Autumn/Winter extension, The Off Season.  Now in its sixth year, the The Off Season campaign has helped transform winter from a traditional tourism challenge into a compelling reason to visit Tasmania. Lindene shares how the team identified a long-term structural problem facing the state's tourism industry, why discounting wasn't the answer, and how they built a brand platform that encouraged visitors to embrace, rather than avoid, the cold.  The conversation explores the evolution of the campaign's now-iconic black-and-white creative aesthetic, the strategic decision to lean into Tasmania's raw winter identity, and the importance of staying true to the realities of the destination. Lindene also discusses the role of long-term brand building, stakeholder alignment, and why smaller brands with limited budgets often can't afford to play it safe.   Along the way, she reveals how bold earned-media activations such as Odd Jobs for the Off Season generated global attention, how marketers can distinguish between a strategy that's failing and an execution that's tiring, and how Tourism Tasmania balances long-term brand salience with the pressure to deliver measurable tourism outcomes.  This episode is packed with practical lessons on brand courage, stakeholder management, creative effectiveness, and the power of consistent long-term thinking for marketers in any category.    This episode is brought to you by impact advisory, communications and events agency, ImpactInstitute in partnership with Adobe.  www.impactinstitute.com.au | https://business.adobe.com/au

South Africa and New Zealand - the Springboks and the All Blacks - the Greatest Rivalry. Plenty is spoken of their rugby tactics, their strengths and Weakness on the pitch, but what about behind closed doors? What are South Africans and New Zealanders really like as cultures really like, both in training and away from the rugby's pitch? This week I was joined by rugby coach Ben Pegna who has lived and worked in both of these iconic countries. He lifts the lid on what the rugby cultures are really like in New Zealand and South Africa, drawing heavily on his experience coaching at the Bulls in Pretoria. We then finish the podcast with a debate: is the World Cup really worth sacrificing other games for? Ben Pegna's CV:Coached at London Scottish for a few years with the academy and seniors. Wasps for three seasons across the academy and on the pathway to seniors.England 7s - performance analyst with Ben Ryan and Russell Earnshaw (also did 1 to 1 skills and some S and C etc)Consulted to Argentina coaches, consulted to Melbourne Rebels - coaches and players with Dave Wessels as head coach. Consulted twice at Bulls across seniors and juniors. Consulted as technical advisor to RGC on behalf of WRU and supported Mark Jones, current Ospreys head coach.Numerous schools and unis across different countries. #rugby #southafrica #newzealand #springboks #allblacks #coaching #podcast #interview #worldcup Follow Ben on instagram: https://www.instagram.com/benpegna/?hl=en Follow me on twitter: https://x.com/HuwGriffinRugby Follow me on instagram: https://www.instagram.com/huw.griffin/ Follow me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61580910041103 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Send us Fan Mail⚠️ Viewer discretion advised: This episode contains strong language and candid adult conversation.According to the 2026 agent-production chart referenced during this episode, approximately 84% of NAR-registered agents had closed zero transactions between January 1 and July 6, 2026, while approximately 97% had closed four transactions or fewer.So what is actually happening inside the real estate industry?In this unfiltered episode of RealEstateAF, Mark Jones sits down with three experienced San Antonio real estate brokers: Jeff Garza, Robert Saenz and Cesar Amezcua.The panel breaks down why so many agents are struggling, whether real estate has been incorrectly marketed as a side hustle and why simply changing brokerages rarely fixes the real problem.They also get brutally honest about:• Whether real estate licensing standards adequately protect consumers• Why experience and fiduciary responsibility still matter• Massive builder commissions and new-construction incentives• Finding the actual cash value of a new home• Why so many real estate contracts are falling apart• Performative social-media success and “I just capped” posts• The temporary excitement of changing brokerages• What real rainmaker activity actually looks like• Whether struggling agents are surrounded by the wrong people• When becoming a dual-licensed Realtor and loan officer makes sense• Better ways agents can create additional sources of income• Social-media boundaries, lead verification and agent safetyThis is not an attack on struggling agents. It is an honest conversation about the difference between holding a real estate license and building a sustainable professional real estate business.Statistics discussed in this episode are based on a chart displayed and referenced by the panel. RealEstateAF has not independently audited the underlying dataset.━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━TODAY'S GUESTSJeff GarzaCEO and Broker, Redbird Realtyhttps://redbird-realty.com/Robert SaenzBroker, Xsellence Realtyhttps://www.xsellencerealtysa.com/Cesar AmezcuaOwner and Sponsoring Broker, CA & Company, REALTORS®https://cacompanyrealtors.com/━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━CHAPTERS00:00 – Cold Open: Get Better Every Day00:32 – Introducing Jeff Garza, Robert Saenz and Cesar Amezcua02:46 – The 2026 Agent Chart: 84% Closed Zero Transactions08:00 – Real Estate Licensing Standards and Consumer Protection12:25 – Builder Incentives, New Construction and Fiduciary Duty24:37 – Failed Contracts and Performative Social-Media Success31:00 – Brokerage Hopping and the 60-Day Honeymoon50:26 – What Real Rainmakers Actually Do1:00:26 – The 84%, Top Producers and Dual Licensing1:16:45 – Agent Safety, Social-Media Boundaries and Final Takeaways━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━POWERED BY LOANBOTRealEstateAF is powered by LoanBot — Smarter Mortgage Matching.Search LoanBot in the Apple App Store or Google Play.Affiliation disclosure: RealEstateAF host Mark Jones is a co-founder of and holds an ownership interest in LoanBot.LoanBot is an educational mortgage-matching and technology platform. It does not issue loan approvals, make underwriting decisions or provide a commitment to lend.━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━CONNECT WITH MARKConsidering buying, refinancing or developing a mortgage strategy?Visit:https://MortgageTalkWithMark.comMark JonesBranch Manager and Senior Loan OfficerNMLS #513437iTHINK Mortgage powered by Premier Mortgage Resources, LLCNMLS #116924123 Boerne Stage Road, Suite 103San Antonio, Texas 78255Equal Housing Opportunity━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━CHANNEL AND PODCAST DISCLOSUREThe information presented in this podcast is provided for general educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not legal, tax, financial, investment, real estate, accounting or individualized mortgage advice.Guests appear for informational and discussion purposes and speak on their own behalf. Their statements, opinions and experiences do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Mark Jones, RealEstateAF, iTHINK Mortgage, Premier Mortgage Resources, LLC, LoanBot or any affiliated organization.No compensation is paid or received in exchange for referrals, endorsements or podcast appearances. Nothing discussed during this episode should be interpreted as an agreement to refer settlement-service business or as a requirement to use any particular real estate broker, lender, title company, insurance company or other service provider.Mark Jones is a licensed mortgage loan originator. This content does not constitute an offer to extend credit or a commitment to lend. All loan programs, interest rates, terms, qualifying requirements and product availability are subject to change without notice. All financing is subject to application, credit review, property approval, underwriting approval and applicable investor or agency guidelines. 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In this episode of the Life Matters Podcast, host Bill Bell, Vice President of Advanced Sales at Penn Mutual, welcomes John “Hutch” Hutchinson, Founder of BankingTruths.com, and Mark Jones, Director of Multilife Sales at Penn Mutual, for a conversation on multilife opportunities and how financial professionals can approach these cases with greater confidence. Multilife cases can be complex, particularly when covering larger groups, but the right technology and support can make the process significantly more manageable for financial professionals. Hutch and Mark share insights from a real client case, exploring why a multilife solution made sense, how the case came together, and how Penn Mutual's Accelerated MultiLife Platform (AMP) helped streamline the experience. You'll hear insights on: • How financial professionals can identify potential multilife and Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP) opportunities • The differences between simplified issue and guaranteed issue underwriting • How AMP helps create a more efficient digital experience • Lessons learned from a real multilife client case • The value of leveraging support and expertise throughout the process This episode is designed for financial professionals looking to better understand multilife planning opportunities and discover how the right resources and approach can help simplify the experience for both their firms and their clients.   Have a question or comment for Bill? Drop him an email at: LifeMatters@PennMutual.com   Follow Us Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PennMutual/    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/PennMutual/   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/penn-mutual/    Penn Mutual's Financial Professional Resource Site: https://gateway.pennmutual.com/   This podcast is for informational purposes. Guests' views, comments, and opinions on products, services, or strategies do not necessarily represent the views of or imply endorsement by The Penn Mutual Life Insurance Company or its affiliates. Product availability, benefits and provisions vary by state.  Accumulation Whole Life (Policy form number ICC18-TL) is a whole life insurance policy offered by The Penn Mutual Life Insurance Company. Policy form number may vary by state. Product and features may not be available in all states. This product is not offered in New York. Accumulation IUL (Policy form ICC22-PI-IFL) is an indexed universal life policy issued by The Penn Insurance and Annuity Company, a wholly owned subsidiary of The Penn Mutual Life Insurance Company. Policy form numbers may vary by state. Products and features may not be available in all states. This product is not offered in New York. Accumulation Variable Universal Life (ICC23-PI-VFL) is a flexible premium, adjustable variable universal life insurance policy offered by the Penn Insurance and Annuity Company, a wholly-owned subsidiary of The Penn Mutual Life Insurance Company. Policy form numbers vary by state. Product availability and features may vary by state. This product is not offered in New York. 9031033NS_JUL28  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In Episode 499 of the Reformed Brotherhood, Tony Arsenal and Jesse Schwamb conclude their extended study of Matthew 25 with a close examination of the Sheep and Goats passage (vv. 31–46). The conversation tackles one of the most frequently misread sections in the Gospels — a text often weaponized for works-righteousness or social-justice reductionism — and recovers its deeply Reformed, gospel-saturated meaning. The hosts argue that the works displayed at the final judgment are not meritorious currency but the spontaneous, unselfconscious fruit of transformed hearts. They explore the significance of the sheep's surprise, the inheritance language of the kingdom, unconditional election, and the precise meaning of "the least of these." The result is a theologically rich, pastorally grounding episode that offers genuine assurance to believers while calling the church to practical, ordinary mercy toward its own members. Key Takeaways Works at the final judgment reveal identity, not merit. The sheep are on the right because they are sheep — not because their accumulated deeds earned them a place. Their works flow from a renewed nature, not toward a threshold they must clear. The righteous are surprised — and that surprise is theologically decisive. If the sheep were consciously stacking up merit for judgment, they would have kept careful ledgers. Their inability to recall their own works demolishes any works-righteousness reading of the passage. Inheritance is not wages. Jesus' use of the word "inherit" signals that the kingdom is received by virtue of relationship, not performance — a point reinforced by Paul in Romans 8 and Galatians 4. Election precedes and grounds the works. The kingdom was prepared "before the foundation of the world," meaning the deepest cause of the sheep's blessedness long predates any of their deeds. Works are downstream of grace, never upstream. "The least of these" refers primarily to fellow believers, not to the poor in general. The phrase "my brothers" in verse 40 narrows the referent to members of Christ's body — those who belong to him by adoption, faith, and union with Christ. There is no two-stage justification. The final judgment is not a second review of whether one has done enough. It is a reassertion of the righteousness of Christ already imputed to believers — a public vindication, not a fresh assessment. Practical, ordinary mercy toward the church is the mark of kingdom membership. The six works listed — feeding, giving drink, hospitality, clothing, visiting the sick, visiting the imprisoned — are not heroic or extraordinary. They are the unglamorous, costly, consistent kindness that flows naturally from those who have been made new. Key Concepts The Surprise of the Righteous: A Devastation of Works-Righteousness One of the most theologically loaded moments in Matthew 25:31–46 is the reaction of the righteous at the judgment: "Lord, when did we see you?" They are not feigning humility. They genuinely do not remember. As Jesse Schwamb notes in this episode, this surprise is "devastating to a works-righteousness reading of the passage" — because anyone consciously building a merit ledger would have kept meticulous records. The sheep kept none. Their works flowed so naturally and unselfconsciously from hearts already made new by the Spirit that those works barely registered as remarkable. This is precisely what the Reformed doctrine of sanctification predicts: truly gracious affections issue in Christian practice as the spontaneous fruit of a transformed nature — as natural as a good tree producing good fruit. The works are real, the works matter, but they are not calculated. They are evidence, not currency. Inheritance, Election, and the Order of Grace Jesus does not tell the sheep they earned the kingdom. He tells them to inherit it — and he specifies that it was prepared for them "from the foundation of the world." These two details together form a nearly complete statement of Reformed soteriology embedded in the judgment scene itself. Inheritance, as both Paul and Jesus make clear, is received through relationship and not through performance. An heir does not negotiate terms; an heir receives by virtue of who they are in relation to the testator. Layered on top of this is the language of eternal, unconditional election: the kingdom's preparation predates all human works, good or bad. There is no "looking down the corridor of foreseen merit" here. The sheep's blessedness has its deepest root in the sovereign grace of God exercised in eternity past — which means their works, however real and meaningful, can never be the ground of their standing before the King. "The Least of These": The Church as the Primary Referent A significant and often overlooked interpretive question in Matthew 25 is the identity of "the least of these my brothers" (v. 40). The episode argues, in line with the dominant Reformed and historical reading, that this phrase refers primarily to fellow believers — members of Christ's body who are suffering, vulnerable, or marginalized within the community of faith. The word "brothers" is not incidental. It places the referent in a specific covenantal and familial relationship with Christ. This does not exclude broader applications of mercy — the hosts acknowledge that the principle may extend centrifugally outward — but the center of the text is the church's care for its own. This reading is consistent with Galatians 6:10 ("do good to all people, especially the household of faith"), with Acts 9 (where persecuting the church is persecuting Christ), and with the overall logic of the passage, in which belonging to the King is the decisive category. Memorable Quotes Their works flowed so naturally and unselfconsciously from a renewed heart that they scarcely remembered them, let alone regarded them as currency for salvation. — Jesse Schwamb Sheep are put on the right side because they are sheep, and goats are put on the left side because they are goats — not because they act like sheep or because they act like goats. Those characteristics flow from what they are. They don't make them what they are. — Tony Arsenal God provides grace. Now do all that you can do. That's the Christian way to look at things. He has prepared good works in advance for us to walk in. This is not some sort of measurement of whether or not you're in the kingdom. It's a description of what those who are in the kingdom look like and how they behave. — Tony Arsenal Full Transcript [00:00:08] Jesse Schwamb: Welcome to episode 499 of the Reformed Brotherhood. I'm Jesse.  [00:01:13] Tony Arsenal: And I'm Tony, and this is the podcast with ears to hear. Hey, brother.  [00:01:18] Jesse Schwamb: Hey, brother. Well, we're back. We're back in Matthew 25, and if you haven't been tracking with us for a little while, we've, we've talked about all the parables hanging out in Matthew 25. But what we've been talking about recently is this kind of surprise pop quiz, that's redundant, that Jesus kind of gives at the final judgment, and he talks about separating these groups into sheep, into goats, and the sheep aren't shocked that they get into heaven. They're shocked that their quiet, kind of unglamorous kindness apparently got tallied at all. And because all of these good works apparently are done from a heart already made new, have a way of sneaking past even their own doers' notice. But then there's this other group, the goats, and they learn the hard way that they never really did anything for anybody. And it's not a great look when your deeds are just faith's paper trail. And so Jesus has a lot to say to us in this, what we're calling, like, parable adjacent kind of message that he gives. Summarizing these three- Yeah ... great teachings, here comes all of this really direct and explicit instruction about, uh, the final judgment, which by the way is impossible for me now to hear or say without thinking of the final countdown. [00:02:30] Tony Arsenal: The final judgment.  [00:02:32] Jesse Schwamb: I was hope- I was hoping you would sing us into that, and it was beautiful. Yeah. It was fantastic.  I  [00:02:36] Tony Arsenal: try. I  try.  [00:02:37] Jesse Schwamb: So I think on this episode we got a lot to say in our ongoing conversation about this judgment, about these deeds, these works. What are they? What is their purpose, especially for these different groups of sheeps and goats? What's the deal?  [00:02:52] Affirm Deny Segment [00:02:52] Jesse Schwamb: So we'll get to all of that in just a second, but first, it's that blessed and glorious time in every Reformed Brotherhood conversation where we either affirm with something that is something that we really like, think is understated, that's really is not getting the attention, people are sleeping on, or conversely, we deny against something that just isn't that cool, just is not that great. So Tony, are you affirming with something or are you gonna deny against something today?  [00:03:17] Tony Arsenal: I'm affirming with something. I'm not sure how long this has been a thing. I stumbled upon it, uh, a little while ago, and it's been in my affirmations list for a couple weeks. Um, and I'm also not 100% sure that this is available to every Logos Bible user. So those are the caveats.  [00:03:33] Logos Minutes Reading Plans [00:03:33] Tony Arsenal: Um, what I stumbled upon is if you create a reading plan now, instead of saying, "I wanna finish this book by this date or in this number of sessions," uh, you can say, "I wanna finish this book by reading X minutes a day," which is great. Um, it's a, it's a feature that I've, I thought, like, why didn't they have this a long time ago? Because a lot of times you want to sort of set aside a certain amount of time a day. Maybe it's 15, 20 minutes of Bible reading. Maybe it's five minutes of Bible reading. Maybe it's 30 minutes of- Bavinck or Calvin or whatever you're reading. So what you can do now is you tell it the page range or you tell it, "I wanna read the whole book." Uh, you could do, you know, passages or verse ranges or sections of the Bible. And then where you normally in the next screen where it would ask you, uh, how many days you wanna read, how many sessions, or whether you wanna read until a certain date, there's a new option. And so it just divides that up based on the amount of time. What's really slick is it will actually break pages in half. Nice. So, like, if you have a short, um, either a short amount of pages that you wanna read, and it's kinda like I wanna read for two or three minutes a day, and two minutes is not a whole page. I run into this when I'm reading Matthew Henry when I'm preparing for sermons, because for whatever reason, uh, maybe it's just the Logos page pagination, but the pages are really long. Like, a one page of Matthew Henry's commentary will sometimes take, like, 10 or 15 minutes to read, which is obnoxious. Um, I think it's just that the pages are just, like... I don't know, I think it's just long pages. Um, but if you say I wanna read this one page and I wanna read for five minutes a day, it'll actually split the page up, um, into chunks based on the word count and whatnot. And obviously, that five minutes is, it's not calculating how quickly you read, like, uh, Kindle does sometimes when you're doing that.  [00:05:25] Jesse Schwamb: Right.  [00:05:25] Tony Arsenal: Um, so it's basing that on an average reading speed. So if you're a little faster, uh, of a reader, then it'll be, you know, you'll get done a little quicker, and it might take you a little longer if you're slower. But it's a really slick feature, and I think it's, like I said, I think most of us If we wanna be diligent to read whatever it is we're reading, whether it's the Bible or other theological works, um, we want to set aside time, and we wanna sorta time block. We've talked a lot about productivity, um, in this podcast. We wanna, like, time block our time so it's protected and it's, it's set aside for that task or for that purpose, and this is a great way to do it. So you just put it on your calendar. You say, "I've got 15 minutes that's set aside to read the Bible in the morning, and I know that it's gonna be a digestible chunk." And then it's a, you know, it's no longer a, a date-bound reading plan, so there's no falling behind. If you miss a day, it just means you pick up the next day. Right. So it's a great way to do it. Again, not that there's anything wrong with time-bound reading plans or deadlines, but it's a little bit of a different way to make sure that you're getting into the Word or whatever book you're reading, uh, consistently. [00:06:30] Jesse Schwamb: That's definitely a feature that I think people are sleeping on in Logos. I have that too, so I don't know if, like you said, it is d- coupled with some kind of particular package or dependent on that.  [00:06:40] Stress Free Reading Habits [00:06:40] Jesse Schwamb: But generally, I think maybe we haven't spoken enough about, like, just making what- whatever it looks like, stress-free reading plans, because I was also reading some stuff by Ryan Holiday recently, and just the reminder of how there really is a fair amount of time to read, to actually consume, like- Yeah good written material. And really, it's maybe a little bit more about how, like, we understand walking and the benefits of walking now. You don't need to, like, set aside 20 or 30 minutes to go for a walk. Even going for, like, a quick burst of three to five minutes is so happy and healthful for you. And so I think- Yeah that in the same way, we actually do have more time to read than we think, and if you wanna, like, consume material and learn more things or just become more meditative in your thoughts spiritually, I think if you create the plan, that's just another thing to, like, help you on the way. But it's gotta be one that's, like, stress-free, like you're saying, and that's what I like about the Logos. You just set it up, and every time you go back into it, it's kinda asynchronous, and so, like, it just starts you off with wherever you're at. It's never gonna, like, pop up and be like, "You missed a day, and now you owe me 60 pages." Yeah. "Get on the ground and give it to me." Like, it's, it's not gonna be like that. So I love the joy of having the plan before you, and then that means that when the time comes, you're like, "Oh, I got a couple minutes," you can just go there. It can guide you into that reading, like, easily, succinctly, with low barriers, and make you feel happy and feel, like, that joy of reading again.  [00:08:04] Tony Arsenal: Yeah. Yeah, I, I think it's great. And, you know, I think sometimes we fall into this trap, and you kind of alluded to it. Like, you fall into this trap that if you don't, uh, if you don't have, like, 20, 30 minutes to sit and read, that it's not worth it. Right. Right. And I know I used to fall into that trap, where I felt like if I didn't sit down and read an entire chapter, that I somehow was not actually, like, getting the material. But I think most of us have some sort of regular, uh, like, waste time. Uh, and what I mean is, like, for me, I ride the bus home every, like, every day. Most days I ride the bus home, and I know that's about a 25, 30-minute period of time that, um, I can choose to, like, scroll Twitter, and that's fine. Like, it's fine to do that. I can listen to podcasts. Um, I can do all sorts of stuff. I play video games on my tablet. Um, or I could set aside 15 of those minutes and have a p- sort of a preset reading. And you will be surprised, or maybe you won't. Maybe I'm the only one who's been surprised at this, but I think you'll be surprised uh, to find how quickly you actually move through material, even at- Right something like five minutes a day. So just for example, Joel Beeke's, uh, Systematic Theology Volume 1 is about 28 hours worth of reading, at least according to Logos. If you set aside 15 minutes per day, you will finish that reading in approximately 114 sessions. So that's not that long. That's not bad. That's like a third of a year. That's not bad, yeah. So you could, you could read through all of Joel Beeke, which is thousands of pages. I mean, we're talking, we're talking four, four different five or 600 page volumes. Um, and this, this actually is counting, like, the table of contents and the index, so, like, not all of it is what you're gonna read. You could read through that whole thing in under a year and a half if you just set aside 10 or 15 minutes. Um, and obviously if you have more time, maybe you have a 45 minute, um, bus ride home or, you know, you, you regularly have doctor's appointments and you know you're gonna be in the waiting room two days a week every week or something like that, this is a great way to just make sure you've got something set aside. Like your dad always says, you always say, like, "Bring a book." Well- That's right ... this is not only bring a book, but it's bring a book with like a s- like a set chunk of that book set aside for that time period. So maybe it's your lunch break, maybe it's the walk in from the bus stop, whatever it is. Um, I think it's, it's pretty straightforward. And all the old features, like all the old ways of setting up reading plans are still there. They're not eliminating those. Um, and this is just a great way, I think, to get, kind of get your reps in. Like, sometimes you just have to do the work and- Right ... get your reps in.  [00:10:45] Jesse Schwamb: Get it.  [00:10:45] Tony Arsenal: And this is a low pressure, this is a low pressure way to do it. It's not, um, it's not setting aside specific amounts of, uh, dates or anything like that. So yeah, check it out. It's, it's super easy to access, it's the same way you would always make a reading, um, like a reading goal. Um, and you actually can still set a regular reading schedule even with this feature. You could still say, "I wanna read Monday, Wednesday, Friday." You could say, "I don't wanna have a schedule at all," which means you just, when you click on it, it just brings you to the next section, but there's never any reminders. So they actually really are, like, expanding the way that, uh, you're able to generate these reading plans. The one thing I wish they had that I'm not sure why they don't, I wish they had a dynamic catch-up feature where, like, if you were... You know, let's say I wanted to finish this book and I wanted to finish it by, I don't know, the end of the year, and I missed a couple days or I missed a week, I wish there was a way to push a button and have it just redistribute the remaining readings out across- Right ... what's left of the reading plan. That's not there. That's a... If you're listening, Logos, or someone who works at Logos, that's what we need. I've told you that before. Why haven't you listened to me? But, um, uh, yeah, we need that. But th- this is a good start too, because again, it's, it's not, um- It's not making you do a deadline. Right. So it's much more relaxed paced. [00:11:59] Jesse Schwamb: Exactly. Exactly. That's one of the things I love about it.  [00:12:03] Burst Reading Benefits [00:12:03] Jesse Schwamb: Uh, let me make, like, one more plea if you're, like, like you're listening and you're unconvinced about this burst style reading, and that is I've been so convinced that that kind of consumption can be really helpful to processing reading. Because especially if it's like, say you're reading something of the Puritans or something relatively deep, there is something to be said of course for, like, being able to sit down if you have all this time and just kind of read to get the flow. But what I think even there I struggle with is some things are worth stopping and thinking about, and this forces- Yeah ... some kind of meditation that happens in the background anyway, and I've found that to be so helpful. Like, it kind of just creates a little bit of attentional space by way of making you walk away from the thing that you just read. And also, if you know that you've only got this short little time span available, I think I'm prone to read kind of in a different way with a little bit more focus.  [00:12:52] Tony Arsenal: Yeah.  [00:12:53] Jesse Schwamb: And then I find myself really thinking about some of those things. And some of the things that you and I talk about, the things that we love to read, are worth stopping and considering. And so it's too easy to be like, "Well, I just, I need to hit the page number. I gotta get the count in. I wanna get this volume finished." Yeah. And that's great, but at the same time, like presumably, like we read to comprehend, we read to put into practice, we read to, like, help us build wisdom and to process the world and to understand things in a more robust and profound way, and that can really only happen with that kind of spacing. So this builds in some spacing, so embrace that as I think a feature and not a bug maybe of some good reading.  [00:13:29] Tony Arsenal: Yeah. Yeah, it's funny you, you mentioned Ryan Holiday earlier. One of the things I appreciate about his, um, at least most of his books, I've only read the sort of the Stoic Wisdom series, but, um, he keeps his chapters super short. [00:13:40] Jesse Schwamb: Yeah.  [00:13:40] Tony Arsenal: So, like, part of that is sort of the self-help grocery store format that he's, he's going for. Um, not that it's... It's not empty calories, that's not what I'm saying. I think sometimes that is implied there. But he keeps his chapters short, so it's very easy, like, to just pick up. I'm working through Discipline Is Destiny right now. It's the one I'm reading now. It's very easy to just pick it up and be like, "I'm gonna read one chapter," and it's, like, five, 10 minutes long. Um, and the chapters are... They're not identical, but they repeat enough themes that, like, y- you don't need to really, like, sit down and really, like, cram through it to get the concept. Right. But you'll read through and you'll get the concept over and over again. And I actually think the Puritans can... Some of the Puritans can be that same way, where they say the same thing- Right ... slightly differently over and over again. Um, another book that reminds me of that is, um, Knowing Christ by Mark Jones, which we talked, but that's a, it's weird that that's actually kind of an old book now. Um- Right ... I think it's coming up on close to a decade now since it came out. Um, but those chapters are super short, 10, 15 minutes. So this kind of at a burst reading, session reading, rap reading, whatever you wanna call it, it's actually super productive and it's, it is, you're right, it's very good for meditation because you are taking time to do it. You're doing it consistently, so it's kind of, it's kind of like hammering itself into your head. Um, but it's not, it's not so much time that it, you get, like, reading fatigue.  [00:15:01] Jesse Schwamb: Right. Right. Exactly. That's a beautiful thing.  [00:15:04] Tony Arsenal: Yeah.  [00:15:05] Jesse Schwamb: I, I agree. Like, it's reading all kinds of ways, but one of the things that Ryan Holiday was recently convicted me of is, like, he talks about how many things he's able to consume. People are always like, "How are you able to read all those books with all the traveling, all the different things, engagements that you have?" And he's like, "Because I just read all the time. I read when I'm-" Right ... waiting at the post office. I read when I have, like, literally three minutes between doing something or picking up a kid, that, that I read." And I don't know, I kinda like that idea. I, I... he's not ashamed to be like, "If that's... If I have 30 seconds, I probably just pull up a book," because I think that that's even- Yeah ... valuable space in which to consume good writing. So, and when I r- I, I, like, subscribe to all, maybe like you, like all these different feeds, all these lists. There are just- Yeah ... so many things I wanna read. My to-read list is so stacked, pun intended, and it's like books of- I know ... all kinds. And then I'm in this space now where I find that as I'm getting older, again, one, like suddenly birds continue to be interesting to me in new ways that I never anticipated, and the second thing is, like, suddenly I wanna read all this history. And so, like, now there's like this whole, where it never really appealed to me before, now there's like this, all this new, like, vistas opened up, and I'm like, "Who has time for this?" So- Yeah ... maybe the idea is to just, again, consume it in bites. And I'm beginning to really appreciate that as an effective strategy for not, like, re- necessarily reading more, but learning more, and learning it better. [00:16:26] Tony Arsenal: Yeah. Yeah. And I actually think it is probably an effective strategy for reading more for most people. I know it has been for me- True ... to just sit down and do, do a few minutes at a time. Um- Just get it ... I've got kids, there's work to do. Like, it's, y- you're not gonna be able to... Most, I think most of our listeners are probably not in a- stage of life anymore where you can really devote hours to study like you maybe you could when you were in your 20s, where you just- Right you had a job and you didn't have much else responsibility. You, you just, you know, you just had things to do. Uh, it's not like that for most of us anymore. So being able to take five, 10 minutes and, and read a book is probably a luxury, but it's probably a luxury that we could, we could probably structure our lives and make that more of a reality. Right. And this feature in Logos will help you do that with really any theological book you can practically think you wanna get your hands on that's available on Logos. So Jesse- Right ... we could talk about reading all night every night, and we- ... love to read, but that's not what this podcast is about today. So why don't you tell us what you're affirming or denying?  [00:17:27] Jesse Schwamb: Yeah.  [00:17:27] Jesse Book Pick Perkins [00:17:27] Jesse Schwamb: Well, now, now I'm gonna switch it up because I had a book, and so, like, it just seems like people are gonna be like, "Oh, of course," and you just rolled right into that. So the quick affirmation is more Puritan stuff, A Perfect Redeemer by William Perkins. That's this week's book, so you should do that. I don't know if it's available on Logos. I presume that it is, and you can set up your own reading plan, and it's beautiful and amazing, and Perkins makes a case that true satisfaction isn't found in things, but in Christ. He tears down all these illusions of self-sufficiency and points us to rest fully in God's grace. It's beautiful. It's glorious. It's practical. It's like 27, to your point, Tony, 27, I think, like, really brief chapters. Perfect for the bus. Like, it's prime bus reading.  [00:18:05] Tony Arsenal: Yeah.  [00:18:06] Jesse Schwamb: So yeah, that's affirmation. Okay.  [00:18:07] Denial Dying Guitar Batteries [00:18:07] Jesse Schwamb: Here's a denial, 'cause I've rarely do denials, but as you were speaking I was reminded of one that came up this morning that maybe is only going to really resonate with a small group, but I think if you know, you know. I was actually, this denial was constructed out of a conversation I had with a dear brother this morning, who I think was sharing the denial with me, uh, but might have been suspicious entirely of what I was going after. But it's this. A lot of, I'm trying to think how to set this up properly so it's, like, explained to a wider audience. So a lot of guitar instruments, that's a weird way to say this, but, like, I'm talking about guitars that have to be plugged in, have some kind of, like, onboard electronics. But principally, like, electric instruments. I'm talking about, like, electric bass, electric guitar. They usually have what's called, like, a preamp in them, which means that the signal is essentially being set up before it goes to the board, and that process requires some power. And so generally those instruments have, like, a little, you know, battery that goes in them, uh, uh, different kinds. Here's my denial. I don't know why so many of these instruments, including the- most of the ones that I own, have no nothing, no indicator to tell you how close that battery is to dying. And so what happens is- Yeah you, I think every musician, everybody who plays an instrument of, of this nature has had this happen to them, where they need to play it in a critical environment, and then the battery dies. And why I'm denying this is because this came up for me yesterday, where I was, had the benefit of playing at a church event, but it was with my acoustic electric guitar. It, it's a Martin D-16. It's a beautiful guitar. But even the Martin, it doesn't have an indicator on it. And so, like, I always swap out the battery, which I think is probably pretty wasteful, because I knew I had to leave this guitar plugged in on stage for, like, almost two and a half hours before it was gonna be used, and whenever it's plugged in, it's drawing the power. And so, so many times you get halfway through, you're playing, you're in a worship set or you're making music with people, and it just goes out on you, and when it goes out, there's no way to get the sound back except for, at least in my instrument, you have to unplug it, you have to pop out the battery, you have to put it back in. There's no, nothing discreet about this. There's nothing convenient about this. And there's certainly nothing- ... like, noiseless about that, especially if the person running sound is not being- Doesn't know ... very, like, adept with how they're handling the instrument so that you don't, like, blow people's ears out as you try to replace the battery. So I'm just wondering about this. Like, come on, instrument manufacturers. I know it's probably not pretty to put this somewhere, but you could put it somewhere discreet. Here's what I just wanna say, though, finally. Um, please don't at me. I know that there are some, especially like acoustic electric guitars, Fender's a good example, like onboard Fishman pickups that have, like, the EQ box. Some of them do have this indicator, but not enough. And if it's, like, an electric guitar- Yeah ... I rarely see this on a pure electric guitar. So please, for the love, just put, like, a little light. Maybe, maybe it turns orange or yellow or red when, like, the battery's about to go. I just, I need to know, because it's, it's so nerve-wracking when you're playing and you're like, "Oh, no. When did I last change this battery? How much longer is this thing going to last?"  [00:21:28] Tony Arsenal: Yeah. You know, I'm, I'm wondering, um, maybe I don't know enough about electrical engineering, but I actually feel like being able to determine when a random battery is starting to lose charge is probably a fairly intricate process, so that might be why, like, there's not as many. It's funny, my Ibanez guitar, which I haven't, I haven't even taken out of its case in years, I just don't, don't have a, a, a real occasion for it anymore, um, it has an indicator on it. So it's funny that you say that 'cause, like-  [00:21:59] Jesse Schwamb: Some do  [00:22:00] Tony Arsenal: Not a cheap guitar, but it's, um- Right ... it's not, yeah, it's not like a super expensive guitar. Uh, and it does have a little indicator. It's just like a little blinking light when the battery- Yes ... starts to go, it just blinks. Um, but yeah, even then, it still... It's funny, I, um, when I was in like high school and, and first couple years of college, I helped out with youth ministry at my church quite a bit, and I would often be on the team that would go, like, down to the camp the day before to set up all the equipment and to, like, get everything ready. And I remember I was always, I was always being told like, "Make sure you change the batteries. Make sure you change the batteries." Right. And like- Right ... it was always my job first thing in the morning to go around to all the microphones and all the guitars and, like, change out all the batteries. And I remember thinking, "This is so wasteful." Right. But then I remember, like, the one time we didn't do it, and it, like, crashed in the middle of, like, the big... And again, like, I don't even know if I would support this model of camp ministry anymore, but it crashed in the middle of, like, the big worship set on, like, the, like, the emotional decision- Yeah for Jesus night. Your altar call- It crashed in the middle of it ... totally blown  [00:23:01] Jesse Schwamb: up.  [00:23:01] Tony Arsenal: Yeah, and it, it, and it did. Like, it affected everything. We had to, like, stop and... So yeah, always, always change your batteries. Um, you know, like, I, you, I, when I was doing musical worship on a regular basis, I just had a couple, like, inexpensive rechargeable batteries that I would swap out at the beginning of each session. I would put the battery that was in my guitar into the charger and the battery that was in the charger into my guitar. Um, and those, those wear out over time too, so that- Right ... you know, that, that's not a healthy charging habit for those batteries, and you go through them faster. But it's better than throwing away a nine-volt battery every couple of, you know, couple of days, so. [00:23:37] Jesse Schwamb: Yeah.  [00:23:37] Tony Arsenal: Yeah. That's annoying. It's, it's obnoxious when that happens. Um,  [00:23:40] Jesse Schwamb: that's, that's why I'm just straight denying against it. I suspect that this is a matter of aesthetics, and that many of these manufacturers don't wanna put something as ugly as a light somewhere on this beautiful instrument, even if it's in, like, a discreet place. That's my guess. Yeah,  [00:23:53] Tony Arsenal: maybe.  [00:23:54] Jesse Schwamb: I also theorize, like, why can't there be an intermediary pedal that would help us with this? So, like, many people, including myself, have a tuning pedal which you can essentially bypass, and you, you engage it when you wanna tune. Why can't that draw... I, I think it should be relatively straightforward, but who knows? But either way, all I need is just a heads-up. I don't need like a, "You have, you know, 16% left," or, "You have 2.67 hours left." I just need to know that it's not gonna fail me at this most critical time. Like, just tell me to swap it. That's all, that's all, that's all you have to say. Yeah. Just tell me to swap it. So I'm sure it's more complicated than this, but I think it might be a matter of, of beauty over function and purpose- Maybe ... because-  [00:24:33] Tony Arsenal: Yeah.  [00:24:34] Jesse Schwamb: Yeah, that's probably- Many, many are particular about that kind of thing Yeah. So anyway- Yeah ... yeah, I, that's maybe... I like what you said, Tony. It's maybe a good PSA. Like, change your batteries often and frequently. Don't be like me. Don't be in that position where all of a sudden, I remember I was leading some very acoustic worship on an evening service. It was a very full congregation, probably, like, 200 people. And, uh, we finished up, and somebody had to yell out, uh, "We can't hear your guitar at all." And I'm just up there playing. [00:25:01] Tony Arsenal: Ugh.  [00:25:01] Jesse Schwamb: And yeah. You know, it's distracting. It's one of those things. But-  [00:25:04] Tony Arsenal: Yeah ...  [00:25:05] Jesse Schwamb: um, in the end... Uh, ironically, some people at the end of that were like, "Well, that was really great. It was much better than usual. We heard a lot less guitar." And I was like- ... "Okay."  [00:25:14] Tony Arsenal: My, um, my Ibanez, I never used it, but my Ibanez has an XLR cable in addition to the quarter-inch- Oh and the XLR provides power to the preamp. So that's- See, there you go ... the real solution is just to have a direct XLR, uh, XLR mic cable that goes in, uh, and then you bypass the direct box. Although then you can't, then you can't go into a tuner or pedal. Yes. So-  [00:25:33] Jesse Schwamb: Exactly ...  [00:25:34] Tony Arsenal: pros and cons. Yeah. But-  [00:25:35] Jesse Schwamb: Yeah. It go- it, it, it's all over the place. But let, let's talk about- Yes ... judgment, shall we? Like, what, what-  [00:25:41] Tony Arsenal: Welcome, welcome to the Reformed Guitar Cast for the  [00:25:43] Jesse Schwamb: night. Yes. E- exactly. We could talk all day about books, reading, reading plans, study plans, productivity, and guitars. These are all beautiful things. And  [00:25:51] Tony Arsenal: batteries and  [00:25:52] Jesse Schwamb: electrics. And batteries. Of which, uh, allegedly you can ha- never have enough of any of those things in that group.  [00:25:57] Tony Arsenal: It's true.  [00:25:58] Back To Matthew 25 Reading [00:25:58] Jesse Schwamb: But let's talk about, uh, judgment. And I suppose we should go back to Matthew 25, which we've been hanging out in quite a bit. And someday we'll move out of this passage. Pro- probably not today, but someday- we will actually get beyond it. And I, I know, I know we're 25 minutes in, but I am gonna read again for all of us because Tony and I, you have been resolute in saying that the best parts of our conversations really are the scripture, hearing them and going through them with great depth and a deliberate kind of measured slowness, which we're unapologetic for. And so let's just go to Matthew 25. I'm gonna read verses 31 through 46 with a f- a fair amount of speed, but enough to get us to the place where again, I just want this to be familiar as we speak about it. "But when the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. And all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate them one from another as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. And he will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom which has been prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry, and you gave me something to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me something to drink. I was a stranger, and you invited me in, naked, and you clothed me. I was sick, and you visited me. I was in prison, and you came to me.' Then the righteous will answer him saying, "Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? And when did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or naked and clothe you? And when did we see you sick or in prison and come to you?" And the King will answer and say to them, "Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brethren of mine, even the least of them, you did it to me." Then he will also say to those on his left, "Depart from me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat. I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink. I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me." Then they themselves also will answer saying, "Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison and did not take care of you?" Then he will answer them saying, "Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these, least of these, you did not do it to me." And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous unto eternal life  [00:28:27] Tony Arsenal: Yeah.  [00:28:29] Heavy Passage Rightly Used [00:28:29] Tony Arsenal: Like we said last week, this is a really kinda heavy passage. Um, and it can be, uh... Let me put it this way. It can be used to make, uh, believers fearful in the wrong way. I, I do think the, the passage is to instill fear of God and is inst- to drive us to good works. But it can be used in a way to sort of, as I mentioned last week, it can be used in a way to sort of say, "If you don't do all these good things and you don't measure up, then Jesus never knew you." Um, and, and it implies, or sometimes even fully says that, uh, Jesus comes to know us because of the good works that we do. Right. Right? And that's just not, um, that's just not Christian theology. That's not Reformed theology certainly. Um, it's, it's not Protestant theology, and it's not even really Roman Catholic theology down. Um, but this passage really is more about understanding what marks the life of a person who has already come to faith in Christ. That's right.  [00:29:30] Justification Not Two Stage [00:29:37] Tony Arsenal: What marks the life of someone who has been changed and transformed, uh, to be like their master, like their king. Um, so, so this passage doesn't try to teach us what we have to do to merit eternal life. Um, this isn't... A- and maybe we'll get into some of this, I don't know if we will or not, but this isn't sort of John Piper future justification, um, you know, on the basis of works, or future sa- salvation on the basis of works. Um, there's no two stages to justification, right? If we're justified, it's because Christ has imputed his righteousness to us. That's right. And what happens in the, in the final judgment, there's a real thing that happens, but it's not an assessment of whether or not we have done enough or been enough. It's the reassertion of the righteousness of Christ over us. So we'll, we'll get into that, we'll talk about it, but I wanted to make sure we set the frame for that, um, before we get into it. 'Cause sometimes when you talk about these passages, it's hard to talk about future judgment according to works, which is a genuine Christian reality, right? There's a future judgment according to works. But it's hard to talk about that without starting to sound a little bit like we're, we're earning our salvation or, like, our, our justification's in, like, sort of a second stage of review or something like that. So we'll, we'll get into that, but this is not, this is not works righteousness, this is not future justification, this is two stages of justification. [00:30:52] Jesse Schwamb: And that seems, like, very clear from the way that Jesus sets this whole up. The language is so beautifully gospelly centered and oriented.  [00:31:00] Inheritance Not Wages [00:31:00] Jesse Schwamb: Even behind the judgment, like, this curtain of judgment, when you, when you open it up, is the gospel in all of its fullness, and that begins with th- this idea of inheriting the kingdom. And inheritance, of course, is not wages. In fact, like, Paul makes this kind of, like, identical move in Romans 8 and in Galatians 4 where he basically emphasizes what Jesus is talking about here. That is, sons and daughters inherit, inherit. They don't earn a paycheck. An heir receives by virtue of relationship and not performance. And that single word is, I think in the judgment of, like, most of the Reformed understanding here, decisive for, like, reading this whole passage correctly. That whatever role these works mention in verses 35 and 36 play, they cannot be meritorious works. It's not the ground of the inheritance, because inheritances by definition are not earned. Yeah.  [00:31:51] Election Before Works [00:31:51] Jesse Schwamb: And then, like, right into the same kind of train of thought, the same line of reasoning, is this idea that, well, not only are you inheriting the kingdom, but all this was prepared for you before the foundation of the world. And here again is, like, the beautiful gospel in the form of this un- you know, eternal, like, unconditional election stated, like, very plainly. Now the kingdom isn't pr- w- was not prepared in response to, like, some kind of foreseen works. I think we talked about that last week, right? Did we talk about the cor- looking down the corridor, all that kind of weird stuff? Yeah.  [00:32:22] Tony Arsenal: Yep.  [00:32:23] Jesse Schwamb: It was prepared in eternity past before any works, like good or bad, had been performed by anyone. And so that's, like, the true answer, in my opinion, to, like, any Pelagian or semi-Pelagian reading of this passage. The deepest cause of the sheep's blessedness long predates their deeds of mercy, and so their works are downstream of election and grace, not upstream of it. That's really good news. Like, that again is the Gospel, that all things are entrusted to, belong to God. God does all the verbs. However you want to say it, what we have here is true grace, and that their works are flowing out of that grace. And so because of that, there's no... It's, like, it would be insanity to boast in them, because that boasting would mean absolutely nothing. And so Jesus sidesteps that altogether by talking about inheriting the kingdom and having this all prepared for us before the foundation of the world. [00:33:15] Tony Arsenal: Yeah.  [00:33:15] Kingdom Language Clues [00:33:15] Tony Arsenal: Yeah, and there's some interesting, um, I think some interesting text feature that I just noticed here that, um, I don't wanna read too much into it, but one of the things that's striking about this is the, the language around the sheep or around those on the, um, on the right of the king here. Um, there's much more of a communal, um, kingdom-type language, right? Uh, in the first section where it's talking about those on the right, uh, the word king is used repeatedly.  [00:33:45] Jesse Schwamb: Right.  [00:33:45] Tony Arsenal: Right? And then when you get to the second section on those on the left, the ones that the, the, the righteous son of man does not know, um, it doesn't use the word king. And that's not, of course, not to say that he's not the king of those who are, you know, condemned. He's the king of all. But there is this, this, uh, obviously intentional, uh, choice to use the word king, and what, what is a king if not someone who has a kingdom and a people? Exactly. So there, there even baked into that simple linguistic feature is already this idea that the people he's speaking to are his people. And so, like I said, we've talked about parables and parable-adjacent teaching as kind of being sort of systematic language in story form, systematic theology in story form. Even here, we're seeing election, we're seeing definite atonement, right? The people are his people because he prepared this kingdom for them before the foundation of the world. [00:34:42] Jesse Schwamb: Right.  [00:34:42] Tony Arsenal: Um, and then the, the people who aren't his, they don't even get to be associated with him as king. They don't even beg- get to, get to be associated with his kingdom. They're so far outside of the kingdom of heaven, outside of this kingdom, that even to say that the king is speaking to them is almost like, uh, it's almost like a contradiction, right? So, um- In sort of like common parlance, we might refer to another nation's king as King Charles or, you know, K- King whatever, um, or President so-and-so. But that person is not my king. Right. And so although, like, maybe there's some decorum just in general, and, like, politically it's wise, I'd have no obligation to call King Charles King Charles. Like, I can ... I ... He's not my king. I don't owe any obligation of, of fidelity to him or to his title or to his crown. Another funny example, um, recently, um, you know, I work, uh, at a hospital. We have a spiritual health or chaplaincy department, and there's some Catholic priests who are on staff there. And, um, the, the spiritual health department is part of the care experience group, which is the same group that my patient relations team is part of. And some- someone noticed that at, like, broader team group meetings, I don't refer to them as Father. I'm one of the only people in the room who just says Joakim or, you know, or Sam. Like, I don't ... And they don't mind. It doesn't bother them at all.  [00:36:03] Jesse Schwamb: Right.  [00:36:04] Tony Arsenal: Um, and it's funny because someone asked me that, and I'm like, "Well, they're not my priest, and I, like, I don't acknowledge- Right their status as the Father. Like, there's actually some biblical reasons why I wouldn't do that." I think this is kind of sort of almost like, in a third person perspective, kind of the same thing. Like, the k- king, i- the, the Gospel writer here, Matt, is refusing to use the word king in relation to this Son of Man in relation to these people to say something about them, to say something about those people- Yes who are outside of the kingdom  [00:36:34] Jesse Schwamb: Yes, that's right on. It's a bit like, I suppose, in a, a lesser way, like there was a time... So you're married to my sister. There was a time where you weren't, we weren't Yeah ... uh, and during that time, like I, I was not in your family, nor were you in mine.  [00:36:48] Tony Arsenal: Right.  [00:36:48] Jesse Schwamb: And then at, when you married her, I am part of your family. Like you can't kick me out. As long as you're married to Ashley, I will be part of your family and you part of mine. Right. That's how it works. And so that identity proceeds, like it c- this is like confusion between identity sometimes and I think like harmony, and so many people wanna read this as like some kind of like harmonic reflection of the state of obedience of these persons, and therefore, if they had harmony, then they were in the kingdom, and that's getting it backwards. That they were part of God's kingdom by his family by definition of identity.  [00:37:20] Surprised Righteous Hearts [00:37:20] Jesse Schwamb: So that by the time like we get to verse 37 when Jesus is saying the, the righteous are gonna answer him and they're gonna say, "Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink?" I think that's one of the most like theologically important verses in this passage, which proves the point you just made. And I think it's often under-read because the righteous, they don't remember doing any of these things for Christ. They are surprised. They have like no self-conscious ledger of merit that they can point to, and that surprise I think is devastating to works righteousness reading of the passage because- Yes if these people were consciously stacking up merit to present at the judgment, then they would've kept a very careful account. But instead, their works flowed so naturally and unselfconsciously from a renewed heart that they scarcely remembered them, let alone like regarded them as currency for salvation. And so I think, I know there's been a lot written, you and I have talked about a lot about how people wanna parse this idea of works, understanding that it has some place, but what is that proper place? This I think does lead us into like the right focus in that kind of discussion because it's precisely what like the Reformed doctrine of sanctification would predict, and that is, you know, truly gracious affections I think issue in Christian practice as a reliable sign, hear me out here, but crucially that practice is not calculated or like self-res- referential. It's like the spontaneous fruit of transformed nature, as natural it is for a good tree to bring forth good fruit. And so the righteous in this passage, they're not the legalists that some would, I think, portray them to be or get worried that they are. They're not tallying good deeds. They're simply people who, having been made new, and who makes them new? God in Christ, right, through the power of the Holy Spirit. Because they've been made new, they just could not help but love their neighbor.  [00:39:13] Tony Arsenal: Yeah.  [00:39:13] Sheep And Goats Identity [00:39:13] Tony Arsenal: Yeah, and, and you know, I think it's sometimes hard... We, we made the point last week that, um, the, the language in verse 32 where it says, uh, "He," He being the Son of Man, "He will separate one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats," that, that comparative as is the same language that introduces other parables. Right. And so the, the parable, parabolic element of this is a comparison to a shepherd separating two different kinds of animals in his, his bigger flock. Mm-hmm. I made the point that like we should be careful to overread sort of like what sheep are like into the behavior of those who are righteous on the right of Christ here. Um, because sheep are dumb, sheep do stupid things, sheep are disobedient. There, there's no use for like sheep to do good things and goats are not. And productive goats are also productive. Um, so what we should see though is that sheep are put on the right side because they are sheep, and goats are put on the, the left side because they are goats. Um, not because they act like sheep or because they act like goats, right? And so I think, yes, goats and sheep may have thinked behavioral, recognizable behavioral characteristics, but those characteristics flow from what they are. They don't make them what they are.  [00:40:35] Jesse Schwamb: That's right.  [00:40:35] Tony Arsenal: And so I think that's kind of what we see here in the parable, is the people on the, the right, the righteous on the right hand of the, the Son here, of the King as He sits on His glorious throne, the righteous simply do what righteous people do, right? They, they don't ... So much so, and again I think the shock of this is, is sort of the, the path of the teaching. The shock of this, the surprise of this on the part of the righteous are, uh, like it's palpable. And I think that when you actually talk to someone who is ... Think of the most sanctified, holy, righteous Christian you know, right? And I'm not gonna try to tell you who that is, but think of that person and think of a time that you have paid them a compliment or thanked them for doing the right thing.  [00:41:24] Jesse Schwamb: Right.  [00:41:24] Tony Arsenal: They're like, "Oh, I didn't even think about that." Like, it's just not even on, not even on their radar. How many times have you, um, have you done a kind thing for someone at work and they like make a big deal out of it and you're like, "Oh, this is just I thought this is just what we do to each other. I thought we were just kind to each other." Um, and, and f- the flip side of this too is the, uh, the righteous in this parable or in this teaching, they're actually sort of like questioning the Lord's judgment in that they're saying like, "Wait a second, like w- why am I on the right here?" And He's like, "Well, uh, you were h- I was hungry and you fed me, and I, you know, I was thirsty and you gave me drink." And they're like, "When did we do that?" The flip side- Right ... of that is that those on the left, they're trying to justify themselves, right? They're trying to justify themselves, 'cause He's like, "Well, you didn't do these things. You're not my people." And they're like, "Well, when did we see you? When did we see you, when did you have these things happen and we didn't take care of it?" So the, the righteous are like surprised that this happened, and are almost questioning the fact that it's true, and the unrighteous are trying to justify themselves, basically blaming God. Bad judgment. It's not altogether, um... I forget which pro- I wanna say Micah or Malachi, one of those two, um, um, where the, the, um, God basically says, like, "Y- you, you're sinful people." And they're like, "When? When were we sinful people? Like, you tell me." Yeah. And then of course he does, 'cause it's the prophets. Right. But it's the same kind of thing. He comes to the, to the unrighteous in judgment. He says, "Depart from me, y- you cursed people." And then he says, "These are the, these are the things that have marked your life." And then they're like, "Where, when did that mark my life? Like, what are you talking about?" And he, he, the funny part is he doesn't give them an answer. He doesn't explain to them really. Right. He, he just like, "No, you can go, you can go away from me 'cause you." He does say like, "Well, you never, you did not do this to the least of these," and we, we need to unpack that phrase a little bit. But he doesn't give a long explanation to them justifying his judgment. He just makes the statement, basically makes the statement again, "You just didn't do it, so that's the consequence of eternal punishment." Um, again, not in like, "You didn't feed the poor, therefore you're going to hell" kind of a statement. It's more like, "You are not the kind of person that is a, a part of my kingdom." [00:43:48] Jesse Schwamb: Right.  [00:43:49] Tony Arsenal: Without necessarily a firm statement about w- how that came to be, just a statement, "You are not the kind of person that is part of my kingdom." That's  [00:43:56] Jesse Schwamb: right. That's right. I think that's actually very evident in these, like, six concrete works of mercy which are listed, feeding, giving drink, hospitality to strangers, clothing, visiting the sick, uh, visiting the imprisoned. And as we've said before, those are not extraordinary feats. I mean, there's no mention- Right ... of miracles or doctrinal precision or heroic martyrdom. Yeah. It's just these ordinary, super unglamorous ministry of practical love, and I think that is significant, like you're saying, because it is a mark of true faith, this idea that it's found frequently not in spectacular religious performance, which is what some of the audience is probably after, honestly, but in this quiet but costly unnoticed compassion. And I think that is critical to understanding that those who have been identified and marked by Christ undertake these things with a seriousness, under being willing to bear the c- the cross and the curses and the cost of all those things, uh, because it is born out of a transformed life, one that has been re-identified almost as it were a new creation. And so that- Yeah ... created man does these things without putting the notches on the belts, so to speak, to tally them up because I think to that person that would be insane. What is the purpose of doing that? If I can't earn my salvation, I'm doing these things anyway. It, it wouldn't even matter. It's like trying to pay a bill that you have no money for anyway. Why would you then try to count the dollars that you have in your pocket to see if for some reason you could cover the cost? It's impossible. Yeah. And so everything changes to such a degree that I know we keep saying, like, surprised, and that is what is kind of manifested in the passage. But it's, it's not kind of like the shock of like, "I don't know what you're talking about." It's more, it's more this idea of, again, I think those being brought forward at the final judgment, and it's almost as if Jesus is saying, "You are coming into this kingdom- Because, or you are being, uh, allowed, so to speak, to come into my presence in the fullness because you did all those things. And their surprise is almost as to say, "Well, why would those things bring me into the fullness if I've, in fact, have inherited it because you've called me your own?" Does that make sense? Like, I think it's- Yeah ... there's a little bit gone there- Yeah ... that's not just they're kind of like, "Oh, this slipped my mind," or, uh, "It came so easy to me that I didn't even know I was doing it." I think it was more about the g- we should just get to the least of these then, right? Like, what does it mean- Yeah that they did these to the least of these, and how does that surprise fit into that?  [00:46:19] Tony Arsenal: Yeah.  [00:46:20] Least Of These Explained [00:46:20] Tony Arsenal: The other element of this that I think is super important for us to cover in the 10 minutes or so we have left. Um, this phrase, "the least of these," right? Yes. And, and this, this can really cause this passage to be misunderstood  Um, I wanna s- loud and clear, uh, taking care of the poor in our society, you know, mercy ministries outside of the church, those things are all good, and I think scripture makes an argument that we should be engaged in those, both individually and also that the church has an obligation to, um, to meet some practical needs of those who are destitute around it. Um, but that's not what this passage is saying, right? Right. So when we look at the phrase "the least" first, first thing that, that comes off here, right, in verse 40 where this phrase first appears, "Truly I say to you, as you did it to the least of these, my brothers, you did it to me." Right? This is not a general statement. The least of these are not, like, the lowest and meekest and poorest of the world. The least of these my brothers referring to those who belong to Christ. Right. Those who are related to me. And, and I actually think that that, that is probably, like, the hallmark of passage. Beyond, um, what we've talked about already of just sort of like not being about works righteousness, this is really about being a part of the church, right? They're marked by the fact that they have inherited this kingdom which was prepared for them before the foundation of the world. They're marked by the fact that, uh, they are the people of this king, so much so that the other people aren't e- the word king can't even appear in association with these other people. And this last part, they're marked by the way they have treated those in whom they are with c- in, in community with, right? They're marked by the way they have treated those who are related to the king by blood, who are adopted, who are married to the king, who are in, in the family of the king, his brothers. [00:48:17] Jesse Schwamb: Yeah. Okay.  [00:48:18] Tony Arsenal: So this is painting a picture of kind of what we see, right? W- we see in, uh, Galatians, right? Um, "Do, do good to all people, especially the household of faith." Mm-hmm. Right? Uh, our own tagline, "Honor everyone. Love the brotherhood," right? That's, that's a statement of like, yes, you're supposed to be kind to all people, but you're especially supposed to be kind and be committed to and taking care of those who are in the household of faith, who are in the church. That is what this passage is about. That is what marks those people who belong to the king. The sheep are part of the sh- part of the sheep because they're in that same flock, because they- Right ... are ontologically, they've been made new and they've been renewed into this new creation as sheep. Um, that's what this passage is getting at. And then the people who, uh, who are not a part of that, they, they have not done anything with the church. They're not associated with the church. They didn't take care of the church. They didn't, they didn't feed the church. They didn't do anything with that. And this, this again, like, think about, like, Acts chapter, you know, when, when, um, when Paul is, when Saul is called by Christ, right? "When did I persecute you?" "Well, you, why are you persecuting me, Saul? Well, you persecuted my people." So this, this passage ties a lot of those same s- same threads together- Yeah ... in a way that I think presents this really cohesive picture of what it is that's going on. This is not works righteousness. Right. [00:49:37] Serving Christ In Church [00:49:37] Tony Arsenal: This is an assessment of the fact that you are, in fact, a m- a member of the people of God, that you have been engrafted into Christ and have become a part of his body. And just as he is our head, we are his body. The people who are cast out, the reason he never knew them is 'cause they've never been engrafted into him. [00:49:55] Jesse Schwamb: Right. Sometimes this does, I think, get read and defined as, like, the all the poor and suffering writ large, which is helpful, but I don't think, like, the dominant view here, at least in my perspective. And you, and you tell me otherwise. Yeah. Because, uh, on this view, of course, like, Christ does identify with all who suffer, and that maybe mercy to any sufferer is mercy to him. I think that could be partly correct, part reflection and application here. However, the stronger view, I think, e- like, even historically, is that- Really we're talking about, especially when we get to, like, visiting those in prison, the, the persecuted or itinerant Christian missionary. When we're talking about the imprisonment and persecution language is, that especially suits believers suffering for the gospel's sake, not merely the poor in general. Now, is, are there ways for us as Christians to embody the gospel and to be a witness for Christ by going out and performing acts of social justice? I would say yes, if you connect those items explicitly to the gospel. That is, that you make it clear your emphasis, genesis, your volition comes through this message of who Christ is. Otherwise, there's plenty of institutions doing very good things, and I don't necessarily, what's in view here i

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Send us Fan MailIf you've ever crawled a deal to the finish line and wondered why it feels so much harder than it should, you'll feel seen here. Mark Jones sits down with returning guest Matt Reyna after a last-minute schedule change, and the conversation turns into a raw, useful look at the mindset behind surviving real estate's peaks and valleys.We start with the simplest performance tool that actually works: small daily improvement. From there, we get specific about what breaks transactions today, especially in new construction. We talk builder lenders, poor communication, and the ripple effect that hits buyers, realtors, and loan officers when expectations aren't set upfront. Mark lays out why honest lending conversations beat “rainbows and unicorns,” and how transparency keeps clients from panicking when the file gets messy.Then we zoom out into podcasting and personal brand building. Matt shares why he talked about launching a show for years, what finally got him to start, and why consistency matters more than perfect cameras. We also touch the third rail topics that show up everywhere now: political polarization, virtue-signaling marketing, media bias, and why long-form dialogue is disappearing. The thread stays the same: ask better questions, do your own research, and keep getting better.If you got value from this, subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a review so more people can find Real Estate AF.Support the showKey Factors Podcast is Powered by LoanBot.com Host: Mark Jones | Sr. Loan Officer | NMLS# 513437 If you would like to work with Mark on your next home purchase or as a partner visit iThink Mortgage.

In the final hour of the show Jason is joined by Kings TV play by play man Mark Jones, tells you What's On Deck, and ends with Celebrity Birthdays with Matt George and Kayla Anderson.

Trust is rising in Australia according to this year's Trust Barometer, but so is anxiety, division and scepticism. In this episode of The CMO Show, Mark Jones is joined by Jo Osorio, Chief of Staff & Interim CEO of Edelman Australia, and Paula Cowan, Managing Director of ImpactInstitute, to unpack this year's findings and explore what they mean for marketers, communicators and business leaders.  The conversation examines a growing paradox. While trust in government and media continues to decline, employers and businesses continue to be seen as the most reliable institutions in people's lives. Against a backdrop of rising anxiety, economic uncertainty and increasing social division, organisations are being asked to do more than communicate effectively. They are being challenged to demonstrate competence, integrity, purpose and care.  Jo and Paula discuss the intersection of trust and social impact, in tackling what the Trust Barometer outlines as an increasingly insular mindset. They explore the importance of reputation built on social good as a brand lever.    For marketers, the implications are significant. The discussion explores how organisations can communicate sustainability and impact with credibility, activate trusted voices, and build stronger relationships with stakeholders through listening, transparency and genuine engagement.  The episode also examines the role of trust during periods of transformation, from AI and workforce change to evolving expectations around diversity, inclusion and social impact. Jo and Paula share practical insights into measuring impact, fostering collaboration across differing viewpoints and creating the conditions for long-term trust inside and outside organisations.  Ultimately, this conversation challenges leaders to rethink trust not as a reputation metric, but as the foundation for meaningful relationships, organisational resilience and sustainable growth in an increasingly divided world.    This episode is brought to you by impact advisory, communications and events agency, ImpactInstitute in partnership with Adobe.  www.impactinstitute.com.au | https://business.adobe.com/au

Welcome back to the Blood Red YouTube channel!  EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/bloodred Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee. Download SAILY in your app store or click the link in the podcast episode description box and use our code bloodred at checkout to get an exclusive 15% off your first purchase! For further details go to https://saily.com/bloodred.  Mark Jones and Paul Gorst bring you your ultimate fix of all things Liverpool FC as a brand-new era kicks off at Anfield. On today's agenda, the lads dive deep into what Andoni Iraola's very first day of pre-season training is going to look like. With the new boss set to meet his squad on July 13, Paul breaks down who will actually be reporting for duty at the AXA Training Centre.  It's a bittersweet start for the Spaniard, as a host of key stars—including Virgil van Dijk, Cody Gakpo, Ryan Gravenberch, Florian Wirtz, and Alexander Isak—are granted extra time off following their World Cup exploits. Plus, we look at the fresh faces ready to make an immediate impression, including £60m summer signing Jeremy Jacquet, alongside the return of long-term injury absentees Conor Bradley, Hugo Ekitike, and Viteslav Jaros. How will Iraola handle a heavily depleted, youth-infused squad for the opening week before heading out to the United States? And that's not all! The lads take a look at the ongoing World Cup action, reacting to England's thrilling 3-2 victory over Mexico to book their place in the quarter-finals. Join the conversation in the live chat or comments section below! What are your expectations for Iraola's first season in charge? #LFC #LiverpoolFC #AndoniIraola #PreSeason #BloodRed #WorldCup #PaulGorst #MarkJones #TransferNews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome back to the Blood Red Podcast! EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/bloodred Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee Download SAILY in your app store or click the link in the podcast episode description box and use our code bloodred at checkout to get an exclusive 15% off your first purchase! For further details go to https://saily.com/bloodred  On today's episode, host Richard Garnett is joined by Mark Jones and Liverpool FC correspondent Paul Gorst to reflect on a deeply emotional and significant week for the Reds. Exactly one year on from the tragic passing of our No.20 Diogo Jota and his brother Andre, the lads take time to look back on what Liverpool FC has described as an "immeasurable loss and incalculable pain."  The panel shares their thoughts, fondest memories, and personal tales of the Portuguese forward. They also discuss the deeply moving tributes that have taken place, including the newly unveiled "Forever 20" memorial statue outside Anfield on 97 Avenue. In addition, the team looks at the poignant tribute paid at the World Cup, where Jota's picture was displayed across the big screen ahead of Portugal's emotional 2-1 victory over Croatia. In transfer news, the panel reacts to Liverpool officially completing the £60million signing of French centre-back Jeremy Jacquet from Rennes. The talented 20-year-old lifts the lid on his recovery from a shoulder injury, his massive ambitions under Andoni Iraola, and how he plans to absorb everything he can from learning alongside club captain Virgil van Dijk.

This episode continues sharing recordings from the main sessions during the first ever LC Equip Conference hosted and led by Living Church in April 2025. The theme of the conference was around Four Practices of Discipleship: Sharing Scripture, Sharing Life, Sharing Mission, & Sending. In this episode, we're sharing a full recording from the main session focused on the discipleship practice Sharing Mission. This session was taught Mark Jones, Lead Pastor with Living Church. Whether you're a pastor, ministry leader, or follower of Jesus seeking to make disciples and grow as a disciple, this session will encourage you to consider how and why Sharing Life is foundational to being a disciple of Jesus.

Welcome back to the Blood Red YouTube channel with Richard Garnett, Mark Jones, and Paul Gorst as they dive deep into all things Liverpool Football Club! EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/bloodred Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee.  On today's agenda, the guys tackle the major transfer news surrounding RB Leipzig's wonderkid winger, Yan Diomande. Despite Liverpool's extensive work behind the scenes and willingness to submit a massive financial package to bring the 19-year-old Ivorian sensation to Anfield, reports indicate that Paris Saint-Germain have formally opened talks and emerged as the player's preferred destination. Rich, Mark, and Paul discuss what this significant transfer blow means for Andoni Iraola's summer rebuild. Is the chase fully over, or can the Reds pull off a late hijack? Plus, with Diomande potentially heading to Paris, the panel looks at the structural fallout—including rumors linking PSG's Bradley Barcola as a potential alternative for Liverpool. Don't miss the team's expert insight, debate, and looking ahead to the rest of the summer window. Like, subscribe, and leave your thoughts in the comments below! For more on the developing story, read the latest details on the Liverpool Echo:  https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/yan-diomande-transfer-liverpool-psg-34201874 #LFC #Liverpool #TransferNews #YanDiomande #PSG #BloodRed #Anfield #Iraola Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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How do you evolve a 100-year-old trade brand into a modern, design-led retail powerhouse? In this episode of The CMO Show, host Mark Jones sits down with Jessica Park, CMO of Reece Group, to explore the art of balancing legacy with bold transformation.  Reece has long been synonymous with Australia's plumbing and trade sector, built on trust, quality, and deep relationships with tradies. But the brand is expanding beyond its B2B heritage, embracing a B2C and B2B2C future driven by design, innovation, and seamless omnichannel experiences.   At the centre of this evolution is a reimagining of retail. Jessica takes listeners inside Reece's newest flagship Rosebery showroom, where physical and digital experiences converge to simplify complex customer decisions. From interactive tools and mood boards to over 200,000 product variations, the space is designed to help customers confidently "mix and match" and move from inspiration to execution.   Drawing on her agency background, Park shares how skills like building high-performing teams, rapid problem-solving, and creative strategy translate powerfully into in-house marketing.   The conversation digs into the realities of modern marketing: customers who start their journey online, arrive in-store armed with research, and expect a seamless, personalised experience across every touchpoint. For Reece, success lies in "stitching" those channels together, blending human expertise with digital capability to remove friction and elevate the brand experience.   Ultimately, this episode is a lesson in brand evolution, showing how respect for heritage, combined with a relentless focus on customer experience, creativity, and commercial impact, can unlock new growth.    This episode is brought to you by impact advisory, communications and events agency, ImpactInstitute in partnership with Adobe.  www.impactinstitute.com.au | https://business.adobe.com/au

Join Richard Garnett, Mark Jones, and Paul Gorst on the latest episode of the Blood Red podcast, right here on the Blood Red Liverpool FC YouTube channel! EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/bloodred Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee  In today's show, the panel dives into the latest LFC transfer news, starting with the breaking update that Liverpool have rejected a second offer from Inter Milan for midfielder Curtis Jones. With a huge gap becoming apparent between the two clubs' valuations, the lads discuss what the future holds for the Academy graduate at Anfield. The agenda also covers the latest developments in Liverpool's ongoing pursuit of highly-rated midfielder Yan Diomande as the summer transfer window heats up. Plus, attention turns to the international stage and the 2026 World Cup! The panel breaks down Cody Gakpo's impressive performance and the massive impact he made for the Netherlands during their match against Sweden. Make sure to like the video, share your thoughts in the comments, and subscribe to the Blood Red Liverpool FC YouTube channel for all your daily LFC news, transfer rumours, and expert analysis.

Welcome back to Blood Red! On today's episode, Paul Gorst and Mark Jones sit down to react to a massive double-header of Liverpool FC news breaking today. EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/bloodred Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee  First up, the 2026/27 Premier League fixtures have officially been released! The boys break down the Reds' entire league schedule, analyzing the tricky opening month, the grueling festive period, and the make-or-break run-in. When are the massive clashes against Manchester City, Manchester United, and the Merseyside derbies? We dissect how the calendar shapes up for the club's silverware ambitions. Next, the transfer window is absolutely exploding. Reports have escalated that Liverpool have stepped up talks and are ready to table a massive €100m (£86m) package for RB Leipzig's teenage sensation, Yan Diomande. Fresh off his dazzling World Cup displays for the Ivory Coast, the 19-year-old winger has become the Reds' priority target. Paul and Mark discuss whether Diomande is the definitive heir to Mohamed Salah, Leipzig's firm stance in negotiations, and if European rivals like PSG could complicate the deal. #LFC #LiverpoolFC #FACup #ArneSlot #Anfield #BloodRed Don't forget to like, subscribe, and hit the bell icon to never miss an episode of the Blood Red podcast. Get exclusive Liverpool FC podcasts and video content everyday right here.  Subscribe to the Blood Red Liverpool FC YouTube Channel and watch daily live shows HERE: https://bit.ly/3OkL9iT Listen and subscribe to the Blood Red Podcast for all your latest Liverpool FC content via Apple and Spotify: APPLE: https://bit.ly/3HfBvKq SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/3SdsjeH Join our Blood Red podcast group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1656599847979758/ Visit the Liverpool ECHO website: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/all-about/liverpool-fc Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LivEchoLFC Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LiverpoolEchoLFC Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bloodred_lfc Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@bloodred_lfc Subscribe to us on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/bloodredliverpoolfc Download our Liverpool FC app for free: Apple - https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/lfc-echo/id1255495425 Android - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mirror.liverpoolfc Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Blood Red Liverpool FC YouTube channel! EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/bloodred Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee The summer transfer window is officially OPEN, and the rumours are already hitting overdrive. Join Richard Garnet, Mark Jones, and Morgan King as they sit down to discuss the latest Liverpool FC transfer news and World Cup action. With the market open for business today, the lads dive straight into the reports surrounding RB Leipzig's Ivorian sensation, Yan Diomande. As the Reds push hard to secure a long-term successor on the flank, the Ivory Coast manager has already dropped a massive hint regarding a move to Anfield. Are Liverpool ready to break the bank for the €100m+ rated winger? Over at the World Cup, Liverpool striker Alexander Isak answered his critics in style. Leading the line for Sweden against Tunisia, Isak put in a world-class performance—netting a crucial goal to snap his recent drought and bagging two assists in a ruthless 5-1 victory. The panel discusses what this major confidence boost means for his upcoming season under Andoni Iraola. The boys also look back at how Liverpool's other big names fared on the world stage over the weekend: Virgil van Dijk: The skipper found the back of the net with a towering header for the Netherlands, though the Dutch were ultimately frustrated in a dramatic 2-2 draw with Japan. Florian Wirtz: Liverpool's No. 7 put on a creative masterclass, pulling the strings and providing a beautiful assist in Germany's staggering 7-1 demolition of Curaçao. #LFC #LiverpoolFC #FACup #ArneSlot #Anfield #BloodRed Don't forget to like, subscribe, and hit the bell icon to never miss an episode of the Blood Red podcast. Get exclusive Liverpool FC podcasts and video content everyday right here.  Subscribe to the Blood Red Liverpool FC YouTube Channel and watch daily live shows HERE: https://bit.ly/3OkL9iT Listen and subscribe to the Blood Red Podcast for all your latest Liverpool FC content via Apple and Spotify: APPLE: https://bit.ly/3HfBvKq SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/3SdsjeH Join our Blood Red podcast group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1656599847979758/ Visit the Liverpool ECHO website: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/all-about/liverpool-fc Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LivEchoLFC Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LiverpoolEchoLFC Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bloodred_lfc Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@bloodred_lfc Subscribe to us on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/bloodredliverpoolfc Download our Liverpool FC app for free: Apple - https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/lfc-echo/id1255495425 Android - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mirror.liverpoolfc Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Join us Mark Jones brings the Good News of the Gospel to the forefront, and challenges us to obey the Great Commission. We are called to be disciples of Jesus who are actively making disciples. Christ came into the world to make a way for us to be reconciled with God, to bridge the gap between us caused by our sin. The Kingdom of Heaven grows through multiplication discipleship, let's be challenged by his message!

Chelsea and James are joined by We Hate Movies to discuss Rumpelstiltskin, from Leprechaun director Mark Jones. This episode is sponsored by Brooklyn Bedding! Go to https://www.brooklynbedding.com and use our promo code DEADMEAT at checkout to get 30% off sitewide. This episode is also sponsored by Liquid I.V.! Go to https://liquidiv.com and get 20% off your first purchase with code DEADMEAT at checkout This episode is also sponsored by Remi! Go to shopremi.com/DEADMEAT and use code DEADMEAT at checkout for 50% off with Remi Club Subscribe & Save Order the Dead Meat 2026 desk calendar here! https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Golden-Chainsaws-and-Dull-Machetes-2026-Calendar/Dead-Meat-Productions-Inc/9781524892418 MERCH! https://deadmeatstore.com Website: https://deadmeat.rip WATCH OUR PROOF OF CONCEPT FOR OUR MOVIE, “Pre-Game”: https://youtu.be/o__XhcFS5Nc Get the Full Podcast RSS Feed! ► https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/deadmeat Dead Meat on Social Media: Twitter ► https://twitter.com/deadmeatjames Instagram ► http://instagram.com/deadmeatjames Tiktok ► https://www.tiktok.com/@deadmeatjames Reddit ► https://www.reddit.com/r/deadmeatjames/ Chelsea Rebecca on Social Media: Twitter ► https://twitter.com/carebecc Instagram ► http://instagram.com/carebecc James A. Janisse on Social Media: Twitter ► https://twitter.com/jamesajanisse Instagram ► http://instagram.com/jamesajanisse Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Send us Fan MailIf you feel like you are doing solid work but nobody knows it, the problem is not your hustle, it is your visibility and your credibility. Mark Jones sits down with Jason Smith, publisher of San Antonio Real Producers, to talk about what actually moves the needle in real estate and small business growth when social media gets loud and trust gets scarce.We get into why print marketing is still effective when it is niche, community-driven, and tied to a real person's reputation. Jason shares lessons from building a neighborhood publication in The Dominion, where purchasing decisions are intentional and relationships matter. Then we zoom out to the San Antonio real estate market and why the pandemic created a surprising gap: top agents stayed productive while professional camaraderie and vendor access fell apart.Jason explains how Real Producers helps solve that gap by spotlighting top-producing agents, telling real stories, and hosting private events that put the right people in the same room. We also go deeper into the personal side: coaching, closing loops, rebuilding after setbacks, and a four-part framework for growth built on character, clarity, courage, and competence. You will leave with practical ideas for earning referrals, communicating value, and building a business that aligns with the life you actually want.Subscribe for more conversations like this, share the episode with someone building in real estate, and leave a review with your biggest takeaway.Support the showKey Factors Podcast is Powered by LoanBot.com Host: Mark Jones | Sr. Loan Officer | NMLS# 513437 If you would like to work with Mark on your next home purchase or as a partner visit iThink Mortgage.

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Bombshell news from Anfield over the weekend!  EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/bloodred Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee Download SAILY in your app store and use our code promoFPW6ysSu14mN2m4iYbJE at checkout to get an exclusive 15% off your first purchase! For further details go to https://saily.com/bloodred Welcome back to the Blood Red Podcast, where Ian Doyle and Mark Jones react to the shocking announcement that Arne Slot has been sacked as Liverpool Head Coach. In this episode, Ian and Mark break down the major talking points behind FSG's ruthless decision to part ways with the Dutchman and what went wrong behind the scenes. The attention now swiftly turns to who will succeed Slot in the Anfield dugout. Former Bournemouth boss Andoni Iraola has instantly emerged as the frontrunner for the job after his departure from the South Coast.  Is the Spaniard the right man to take Liverpool forward, or should the Reds be looking elsewhere?  The guys debate Iraola's tactics, his suitability for the squad, and who else could be in the running for one of the biggest jobs in world football. What do you think, Reds? Was it the right time to sack Arne Slot? Would Andoni Iraola be a good appointment, or is there someone else you want to see take over? Let us know your thoughts in the comments below!

The season has officially come to a close. In this episode of the Blood Red Podcast from the Liverpool Echo, Mark Jones hosts as the panel reacts to Liverpool's final day 1-1 draw against Brentford. With Champions League qualification officially secured via a fifth-place finish , the lads break down what went right, what went wrong, and what the future holds under head coach Arne Slot. We also dive deep into the emotional Anfield send-offs for icons Mo Salah and Andy Robertson, as well as a long-awaited moment of closure for former captain Jordan Henderson. Plus, we discuss the impending transfer window—addressing the massive challenge of replacing Mo Salah, dealing with Alexander Isak's injury status, and the cloud hanging over the sporting director position with Richard Hughes. Is the fan base unified behind Slot for next season, or are expectations due for a major reality check? Get exclusive Liverpool FC podcasts and video content everyday right here. Subscribe to the Blood Red Liverpool FC YouTube Channel and watch daily live shows HERE: https://bit.ly/3OkL9iT Listen and subscribe to the Blood Red Podcast for all your latest Liverpool FC content via Apple and Spotify: APPLE: https://bit.ly/3HfBvKq SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/3SdsjeH Join our Blood Red podcast group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1656599847979758/ Visit the Liverpool ECHO website: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/all-about/liverpool-fc Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LivEchoLFC Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LiverpoolEchoLFC Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bloodred_lfc Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@bloodred_lfc Subscribe to us on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/bloodredliverpoolfc Download our Liverpool FC app for free: Apple - https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/lfc-echo/id1255495425 Android - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mirror.liverpoolfc Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Anfield braces itself for an emotionally charged final day of the Premier League season with Mohamed Salah's and Andy Robertson's final game for Liverpool —but all eyes are completely detached from the tactical setup and firmly fixed on the team sheet. EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/bloodred Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee Download SAILY in your app store and use our code promoFPW6ysSu14mN2m4iYbJE at checkout to get an exclusive 15% off your first purchase! For further details go to https://saily.com/bloodred Join the Liverpool ECHO's Ian Doyle and Mark Jones as they dissect a week of absolute turmoil on Merseyside and preview Liverpool's final match of the campaign at home to Brentford. On This Episode...The Salah Bombshell:  The guys dive deep into Mohamed Salah's stunning social media post following the embarrassing 4-2 defeat at Aston Villa. With the Egyptian King  leaving at the end of the season, did his public swipe at the club's direction and Arne Slot burn his final bridge?  The Manager's Dilemma: Arne Slot is facing intense scrutiny after a brutal run of form. Will the head coach stand his ground and bench the departing superstar, or will he give in to the Anfield crowd's demands for one last look at a modern-day legend? Anfield's Atmosphere: How will the fans react to a team in transitional chaos? Can the Reds put the off-field politics aside to end a difficult campaign on a high against a tricky Brentford side? The Summer Clearance: With Carragher slamming "Salah FC" and rumors swirling about senior players backing the forward's outburst, Ian and Mark debate just how big of a rebuild FSG face in the coming months. #LFC #LiverpoolFC #FACup #ArneSlot #Anfield #BloodRed Don't forget to like, subscribe, and hit the bell icon to never miss an episode of the Blood Red podcast. Get exclusive Liverpool FC podcasts and video content everyday right here.  Subscribe to the Blood Red Liverpool FC YouTube Channel and watch daily live shows HERE: https://bit.ly/3OkL9iT Listen and subscribe to the Blood Red Podcast for all your latest Liverpool FC content via Apple and Spotify: APPLE: https://bit.ly/3HfBvKq SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/3SdsjeH Join our Blood Red podcast group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1656599847979758/ Visit the Liverpool ECHO website: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/all-about/liverpool-fc Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LivEchoLFC Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LiverpoolEchoLFC Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bloodred_lfc Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@bloodred_lfc Subscribe to us on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/bloodredliverpoolfc Download our Liverpool FC app for free: Apple - https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/lfc-echo/id1255495425 Android - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mirror.liverpoolfc Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Salah's Bombshell Statement & The Top-Five Fight | Blood Red Podcast EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/bloodred Try it risk-free now with a 30-day m oney-back guarantee Download SAILY in your app store and use our code promoFPW6ysSu14mN2m4iYbJE at checkout to get an exclusive 15% off your first purchase! For further details go to https://saily.com/bloodred Join Richard Garnett, Mark Jones, and Paul Gorst on the Blood Red Liverpool FC YouTube channel as they react to a dramatic weekend on and off the pitch. In this episode, the lads dive straight into Mohamed Salah's explosive social media statement following the Reds' chaotic 4-2 defeat to Aston Villa on Friday night. With Salah openly demanding a return to the "heavy metal attacking football" that opponents fear, has the Egyptian King just taken a direct swipe at Arne Slot's tactical setup on his way out the door? Plus, we dissect a miserable night at Villa Park that leaves Liverpool facing a tense final-day showdown against Brentford just to lock down Champions League football for next season. Is the identity lost, or can Slot steady the ship? Watch, listen, and drop your thoughts in the comments below!

On Monday's show: Early voting begins today and runs through May 22 in the runoffs for the Texas primary races. We discuss that and Joe Panzarella's victory in a special election runoff to fill the District C position on the Houston City Council with Mark Jones, political science fellow at Rice University's Baker Institute for Public Policy.Also this hour: Sidewalks are a part of public infrastructure that could easily be overlooked. But, according to a new book, sidewalks are at the core of numerous major debates. Michael Pollack discusses his book, Sidewalk Nation, which features a chapter about Houston.Then, veterinarian Dr. Lori Teller answers listener questions about their pets.And we discuss Jose Altuve's injury and the Astros' weekend series win over the Texas Rangers with Jeff Balke of the Bleav in Astros podcast, then discuss the Texans' 2026 schedule with Houston Chronicle NFL and Texans reporter Jonathan Alexander.Watch

Chelsea Preview & The Post-Salah Era EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/bloodred Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee. Download SAILY in your app store and use our code promoFPW6ysSu14mN2m4iYbJE at checkout to get an exclusive 15% off your first purchase! For further details go to https://saily.com/bloodred. Join Ian Doyle and Mark Jones for the latest episode of the Blood Red podcast as we dive into a pivotal week for Arne Slot's Liverpool. With the Reds looking to cement their place in the top four, the lads look ahead to Saturday's high-stakes match against turmoil club Chelsea. Can Liverpool exploit the chaos, or will the London side prove to be a "banana skin" in the final stretch of the season? #LFC #LiverpoolFC #FACup #ArneSlot #Anfield #BloodRed Don't forget to like, subscribe, and hit the bell icon to never miss an episode of the Blood Red podcast. Get exclusive Liverpool FC podcasts and video content everyday right here.  Subscribe to the Blood Red Liverpool FC YouTube Channel and watch daily live shows HERE: https://bit.ly/3OkL9iT Listen and subscribe to the Blood Red Podcast for all your latest Liverpool FC content via Apple and Spotify: APPLE: https://bit.ly/3HfBvKq SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/3SdsjeH Join our Blood Red podcast group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1656599847979758/ Visit the Liverpool ECHO website: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/all-about/liverpool-fc Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LivEchoLFC Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LiverpoolEchoLFC Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bloodred_lfc Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@bloodred_lfc Subscribe to us on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/bloodredliverpoolfc Download our Liverpool FC app for free: Apple - https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/lfc-echo/id1255495425 Android - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mirror.liverpoolfc Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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In this episode of The Cosmic Matrix Podcast, we welcome back astrologer, teacher, and author Mark Jones for a deep exploration of the major outer planet shifts shaping our time.

We talk to Lee Mark Jones - Singer Songwriter, Actor and Frontman for The Gyspy Pistoleros. A true lifer in the rock and roll world, Lee has seen his career and dedication to music take him all over the world since playing in bands since being a teenager. A true survivor of the highs and lows the industry constantly throws at you which has seen him rub shoulders and share stories with icons such as Lemmy and Axl Rose. He has even took his own one man rock storyteller show to the Edinburgh fringe before returning to the rock circuit a much wiser and sober performer but as larger than life as ever. Special thanks to Affinity Photo - The hottest photo editing software on iPad, Mac & PChttps://affinity.serif.com/photoIntro Music by Johnny Monacohttps://www.johnnymonaco.com Incidental Music by Night Fires Please visit The 80s Video Shop Patreon Page to find out how you can help grow our very own 80s Video Shop. https://www.patreon.com/80sVideoShop 

On Wednesday's show: We discuss the latest developments in politics in our weekly roundup.Also this hour: As the University of Houston prepares to host the first Conference on College Athlete Mental Health this week, we discuss what needs to be done to ensure players are healthy on and off the field.And we meet the folks behind Ice House Radio, an online radio station streaming from Houston dedicated to the music of southern culture -- past and present.Watch

Host Richard Garnett is joined by Paul Gorst and Mark Jones to react to a massive afternoon at Anfield as Liverpool secured a 3-1 victory over Crystal Palace. EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/efc Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee  With Aston Villa dropping points at Fulham, Arne Slot's side has moved into fourth place, putting them in the driver's seat for Champions League qualification. We break down the goals from Alexander Isak, Andy Robertson, and Florian Wirtz that have put the Reds in a commanding position with just weeks left in the season. However, the win was overshadowed by a worrying injury to Mohamed Salah. The Egyptian king was forced off with a suspected hamstring tear, and with reports suggesting he could face four weeks on the sidelines, we discuss whether we have seen the last of Salah in a Liverpool shirt before his summer departure. Also on the agenda: How Liverpool capitalized on Villa's slip-up to take control of their European destiny. Analyzing the impact of Mo's injury and how Slot navigates the final games without his talisman. We look back at the bizarre Crystal Palace goal from Daniel Muñoz, scored while goalkeeper Freddie Woodman lay injured. Isak's Impact and how the striker continues his fine form as he helps spearhead the late-season surge. #EFC #EvertonFC #DavidMoyes #EvertonStadium #HillDickinson #RoyalBlue Chris Beesley's Book: Spirit of the Blues: https://tinyurl.com/35yrkvdb *Emotional farewell to Goodison Park | 16-page Everton souvenir picture special:*  https://shop.regionalnewspapers.co.uk/liverpool-echo-monday-19th-may-2025-4583-p.asp *Goodbye to Goodison special souvenir edition:*  https://tinyurl.com/GoodbyeGoodisonSouvenir *Gavin Buckland's Book 'The End' | Order your copy here:* https://tinyurl.com/GavinBucklandTheEnd Everton FC podcasts from the Liverpool ECHO's Royal Blue YouTube channel. Get exclusive Everton FC content - including podcasts, live shows and videos - everyday.  Subscribe to the Royal Blue Everton FC YouTube Channel and watch daily live shows HERE: https://bit.ly/3aNfYav Listen and subscribe to the Royal Blue Podcast for all your latest Everton FC content via Apple and Spotify: APPLE: https://bit.ly/3HbiY1E SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/47xwdnY Visit the Liverpool ECHO website: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/all-about/everton-fc Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LivEchoEFC Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@royal.blue.evertoFollow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LiverpoolEchoEFC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Join Richard Garnett, Mark Jones and Ian Doyle on the latest episode of the Blood Red podcast as they gear up for Liverpool's Premier League clash with Crystal Palace at Anfield. EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/efc Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee  With the Reds looking to solidify their grip on the top five, the panel dives into Arne Slot's pre-match press conference and the major talking point of the week: Alisson Becker. Following reports linking the Brazilian shot-stopper with a potential summer move to Juventus, the boss has provided a fresh update on Alisson's recovery from injury and whether he features in the plans for the weekend. Can Liverpool avoid another slip-up against an Eagles side that has proven to be a thorn in their side this season? With Giorgi Mamardashvili sidelined, we discuss the likelihood of Freddie Woodman stepping up. There are also predicted XIs and score predictions ahead of Saturday's 3pm kick-off. #EFC #EvertonFC #DavidMoyes #EvertonStadium #HillDickinson #RoyalBlue Chris Beesley's Book: Spirit of the Blues: https://tinyurl.com/35yrkvdb *Emotional farewell to Goodison Park | 16-page Everton souvenir picture special:*  https://shop.regionalnewspapers.co.uk/liverpool-echo-monday-19th-may-2025-4583-p.asp *Goodbye to Goodison special souvenir edition:*  https://tinyurl.com/GoodbyeGoodisonSouvenir *Gavin Buckland's Book 'The End' | Order your copy here:* https://tinyurl.com/GavinBucklandTheEnd Everton FC podcasts from the Liverpool ECHO's Royal Blue YouTube channel. Get exclusive Everton FC content - including podcasts, live shows and videos - everyday.  Subscribe to the Royal Blue Everton FC YouTube Channel and watch daily live shows HERE: https://bit.ly/3aNfYav Listen and subscribe to the Royal Blue Podcast for all your latest Everton FC content via Apple and Spotify: APPLE: https://bit.ly/3HbiY1E SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/47xwdnY Visit the Liverpool ECHO website: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/all-about/everton-fc Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LivEchoEFC Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@royal.blue.everto Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LiverpoolEchoEFC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jason delivers an epitaph for the BLM movement that infiltrated sports earlier this decade. Mark Jones is the latest ESPN departure from the woke group that the network gathered. Furthermore, Jason notes that religious conviction is permeating the sports world, with Scottie Scheffler being the latest example this weekend at the Masters. Also, Jason was anointed the most hated podcaster in sports media. Steve Kim, Dre Baldwin, and Jay Skapinac join the show to discuss Jason being #1, Dianna Russini remaining under the media microscope, and Doc Rivers again being fired, this time by the Milwaukee Bucks. ​​Today's Sponsors: Patriot Mobile Patriot Mobile isn't just a wireless provider. Switching is easier than ever—activate in minutes. Keep your number, keep your phone, or upgrade. Take a stand today. Go to https://PatriotMobile.com/FEARLESS or call 972-PATRIOT and use promo code FEARLESS for a FREE MONTH of service! Animal Farm Animal Farm is a bold animated adaptation of George Orwell's classic tale. See Animal Farm in theaters May 1st. Tickets are available now at https://angel.com/animalfarm. Recommended for ages 11 and up. ➢ Subscribe to Jason's other channel https://www.youtube.com/@JasonWhitlockHarmony  https://www.youtube.com/@JasonWhitlockBYOG  ➢ Connect with Jason on Social Media:  https://x.com/JasonWhitlock  https://www.instagram.com/realjasonwhitlock/ https://www.facebook.com/jasonwhitlock ➢ Send Jason an Email FearlessBlazeShow@gmail.com ➢ Support The Blaze Visit https://TheBlaze.com. Explore the all-new ad-free experience and see for yourself how we're standing up against suppression and prioritizing independent journalism. Support Conservative Voices! Subscribe to BlazeTV at https://www.fearlessmission.com and get $20 off your yearly subscription. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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With Mo Salah's announcement that he's leaving at the end of the season, we answer the question of where he ranks amongst Liverpool greats. We'll also be discussing potential replacements and how Arne Slot and Liverpool can't let this announcement derail their season.EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/bloodred Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee Download SAILY in your app store and use our code promoFPW6ysSu14mN2m4iYbJE at checkout to get an exclusive 15% off your first purchase! For further details go to https://saily.com/bloodredWhat next for Liverpool in the wake of Mo Salah's announcement? Mark Jones and Paul Gorst assess what's next for Liverpool after Mo Salah leaves. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices