Podcast appearances and mentions of Harold Baines

Bob & Tom discuss a variety of sports topics. They begin by celebrating the Philadelphia Eagles' Super Bowl win and analyze the team's recent draft picks and roster changes, including the notable trade of CJ Gardner-Johnson and the competition for backup quarterback spots. The conversation then shifts to the Eagles' recently released schedule, highlighting its difficulty with several early matchups against playoff teams and a challenging travel itinerary. Finally, Bob & Tom pivot to Major League Baseball's Hall of Fame, debating the merits of several players, particularly focusing on the Hall worthiness of figures like Harold Baines, Lou Whitaker, and the recently reinstated Shoeless Joe Jackson and Pete Rose, considering both their statistical performance and off-field conduct.#podcast #FlyEaglesFly #Phillies #HallofFame #SJAS

Chuck Garfien speaks with Hall of Famer Harold Baines about the biggest moments of his White Sox career, how he learned to be clutch, his thoughts on analytics and the way the game is played today, playing and coaching with Ozzie Guillen, receiving a heart transplant and kidney transplant on back to back days and his hopes of meeting the family that saved his life.  

To celebrate the 20th anniversary of the 2005 World Series, Chuck Garfien hosts a panel at SoxFest with Mark Buehrle, Freddy Garcia, Jose Contreras and Harold Baines. They talk about the four straight complete games in the World Series, how Garcia guaranteed they'd win it all after Game 2 of the World Series, Buehrle drinking beers before getting the save in Game 3, the announcement that the White Sox are making a Buehrle statue to be unveiled this summer and more!

The criteria and membership of a (entirely hypothetical) industrial hall of fame is the subject of this week's podcast. What sort of criteria would be used to evaluate a band's legacy? Who's a shoo-in? Which artists' candidacies might inspire screaming matches and bare-knuckle brawls? How might we ensure that the rivethead equivalent of Harold Baines would not end up enshrined within these (again, entirely hypothetical) hallowed halls? We're talking about all that plus the Sick New World cancellation.

The 2025 Hall of Fame ballot is out. How many votes will 2016 World Series MVP Ben Zobrist get? Can you make a case? Plus, who are you protecting from the Rule 5 Draft list tonight? Meanwhile, we're still digging into where the Chicago Cubs players rank at each position around MLB. Join Luke Stuckmeyer, Cody Delmendo and Ryan Herrera for the CHGO Cubs Podcast.

Ozzie Guillén spills his reaction to this week's White Sox houseclean and reveals his previous interviews with the club in recent years. Is he seriously considering throwing his name in the mix again?He also covers finishing 2nd to Bob Melvin in San Diego & why we'll never see him as a general manager.Ozzie shares with Scott and AJ what it's like to be an uncensored media personality with endless White Sox drama to cover this year. He breaks down how it all went wrong for this year's Sox and describes clubhouse apathy that seeped into the roster.The 3-time All-Star and World Series champion manager relives the epic Robin Ventura/Nolan Ryan clash & a classic Harold Baines story!Legends Territory Tik Tok does not miss--Shady Rays are giving out their best deal of the season. Go to shadyrays.com and use code FOUL for 50% off 2+ pairs of polarized sunglasses. Try for yourself the shades rated 5 stars by over 250,000 people.

Ozzie Guillén spills his reaction to this week's White Sox houseclean and reveals his previous interviews with the club in recent years. Is he seriously considering throwing his name in the mix again? He also covers finishing 2nd to Bob Melvin in San Diego & why we'll never see him as a general manager. Ozzie shares with Scott and AJ what it's like to be an uncensored media personality with endless White Sox drama to cover this year. He breaks down how it all went wrong for this year's Sox and describes clubhouse apathy that seeped into the roster. The 3-time All-Star and World Series champion manager relives the epic Robin Ventura/Nolan Ryan clash & a classic Harold Baines story! Legends Territory Tik Tok does not miss -- Shady Rays are giving out their best deal of the season. Go to shadyrays.com and use code FOUL for 50% off 2+ pairs of polarized sunglasses. Try for yourself the shades rated 5 stars by over 250,000 people. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ozzie Guillén spills his reaction to this week's White Sox houseclean and reveals his previous interviews with the club in recent years. Is he seriously considering throwing his name in the mix again? He also covers finishing 2nd to Bob Melvin in San Diego & why we'll never see him as a general manager. Ozzie shares with Scott and AJ what it's like to be an uncensored media personality with endless White Sox drama to cover this year. He breaks down how it all went wrong for this year's Sox and describes clubhouse apathy that seeped into the roster. The 3-time All-Star and World Series champion manager relives the epic Robin Ventura/Nolan Ryan clash & a classic Harold Baines story! Legends Territory Tik Tok does not miss -- Shady Rays are giving out their best deal of the season. Go to shadyrays.com and use code FOUL for 50% off 2+ pairs of polarized sunglasses. Try for yourself the shades rated 5 stars by over 250,000 people. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ozzie Guillén spills his reaction to this week's White Sox houseclean and reveals his previous interviews with the club in recent years. Is he seriously considering throwing his name in the mix again? He also covers finishing 2nd to Bob Melvin in San Diego & why we'll never see him as a general manager.Ozzie shares with Scott and AJ what it's like to be an uncensored media personality with endless White Sox drama to cover this year. He breaks down how it all went wrong for this year's Sox and describes clubhouse apathy that seeped into the roster.The 3-time All-Star and World Series champion manager relives the epic Robin Ventura/Nolan Ryan clash & a classic Harold Baines story!Legends Territory Tik Tok does not miss--Shady Rays are giving out their best deal of the season. Go to shadyrays.com and use code FOUL for 50% off 2+ pairs of polarized sunglasses. Try for yourself the shades rated 5 stars by over 250,000 people.

White Sox organist and legend Nancy Faust invited us into her home for a rare interview. Hear how she got started and how a Harry Caray suggestion helped to launch her into stardom amongst White Sox fans. Learn about the very large live animal she adopted from Bill Veeck and how praise from Harold Baines was unexpected.The innovator who changed the way fans interacted with their team at the ballpark also plays some classic tunes in "30 Minutes of Sox!"  Brought to you by Cork & Kerry At The Park! Listen. Subscribe. Share. Call 708-459-8406 and leave your comments and questions for the next episode! Chris Lanuti and his buddy Ed Siebert sit at his 9-foot homemade oak bar in a basement on the South Side of Chicago to discuss their favorite team - The Chicago White Sox in a podcast "For Fans, By Fans!" Subscribe now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, EVERYWHERE podcasts can be found and ALWAYS at SoxInTheBasement.com!

The other day, with Tommy Pham's home run chain, an interesting connection emerged. Parson Perryman, who gave up Elmer Smith's first home run in 1915, gave up only one other major league home run, to Jack Fournier, who is part of Francisco Lindor's home run chain, which we had not gotten to yet.Lindor hit his 18th home run of the season last night, and 202nd of his career, off Ryne Nelson, as part of the Mets' 9-0 victory in Phoenix, their fifth straight triumph.* Francisco Lindor hit his first home run off Buck Farmer, 6/24/15* Buck Farmer gave up his first home run to Travis Snider, 8/13/14* Travis Snider hit his first home run off Kevin Slowey, 9/4/08* Kevin Slowey gave up his first home run to Eric Chávez, 6/1/07* Eric Chávez hit his first home run off LaTroy Hawkins, 5/15/99* LaTroy Hawkins gave up his first home run to Harold Baines, 4/29/95* Harold Baines hit his first home run off Jim Palmer, 4/19/80* Jim Palmer gave up his first home run to Moose Skowron, 4/19/65* Moose Skowron hit his first home run off Alex Kellner, 4/15/54* Alex Kellner gave up his first home run to Yogi Berra, 4/26/49* Yogi Berra hit his first home run off Jesse Flores, 9/22/46* Jesse Flores gave up his first home run to Nanny Fernandez, 4/29/42* Nanny Fernandez hit his first home run off Hal Schumacher, 4/17/42* Hal Schumacher gave up his first home run to Don Hurst, 4/15/31* Don Hurst hit his first home run off Red Lucas, 5/15/28* Red Lucas gave up his first home run to Jack Fournier, 5/5/24* Jack Fournier hit his first home run off Joe Engel, 8/7/13* Joe Engel gave up his first home run to Donie Bush, 6/10/12* Donie Bush hit his first home run off Ray Collins, 5/17/10* Ray Collins gave up his first home run to Hobe Ferris, 7/30/09* Hobe Ferris hit his first home run off Bill Reidy, 6/11/01* Bill Reidy gave up his first home run to Mike Donlin, 5/25/01* Mike Donlin hit his first home run off Bill Bernhard, 8/26/99* Bill Bernhard gave up his first home run to Jimmy Williams, 7/24/99* Jimmy Williams hit his first home run off Jack Dunn, 6/29/99* Jack Dunn gave up his first home run to Cy Seymour, 5/6/97* Cy Seymour hit his first home run off Bill Hoffer, 4/30/97* Bill Hoffer gave up his first home run to Mike Griffin, 4/26/95* Mike Griffin hit his first home run off Ed Seward, 4/16/87As for last night, it was more than a Good Night for Lindor, it was a great one: 5-for-5 with a homer and two triples — the rare double shy of the cycle. The last time a Met was a double shy was last July 29, when Starling Marte had a single, triple, and homer in Miami. The only other time that a Met was a double shy of the cycle but had another, superior extra-base hit? Rico Brogna with two homers on May 11, 1996 against the Cubs. Shoutout to those who also, like Lindor, had two singles: Gary Carter (1985), Dave Magadan (1990), Damion Easley (2008), Travis d'Arnaud (2017), and Amed Rosario (2019).Lindor is the first Met to finish a double shy of the cycle and have a five-hit game. That's happened only three other times since Brett Gardner became the only player to do this against the Mets, in 2009: Eduardo Escobar (2014 Twins), Tucker Barnhart (2018 Reds), and David Peralta (2021 Diamondbacks). The Mets' record for triples in a game remains three, set by Doug Flynn in 1980. Lindor joins Joe Chrisotpher, back on August 18, 1964, in the Mets' two-triples-and-a-homer-in-the-same-game club. Those hits were important as Christopher hit exactly .300 for the season, joining Ron Hunt as the Mets' first pair of .300 hitters — Richie Ashburn set the early team record at .306 in 1962, and Hunt was the team's batting champ at .272 in the 111-loss second season. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit willetspen.substack.com/subscribe

In what was most likely the best game of the year (and maybe series of the year), the Reds came out on top beating the Braves 11-10 behind an Elly De La Cruz cycle and TWO clutch homers by Joey Votto. The Reds were edged out by the Braves in two 1-run games following Friday night's matchup, but the series between the two hottest teams in the NL did not disappoint. We also congratulate Fransisco Lindor for passing Harold Baines' career WAR in the newest installment of the Baines Meter! Other topics include the Angels 25-1 rout of the Rockies, the BID parlay, Freddie Freeman's 3000th hit, the possibility of active pitchers reaching 300 career wins, and more! Thanks for listening and we'll see you on Wednesday! DIRECTV Disclaimer: Regional Sports Networks required and additional fee applies. CHOICE Package or higher. Blackout restrictions apply. Available of RSNs varies by zip code and package. If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-777 7/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA). 21+ (18+ NH/WY).  Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NH/NJ/NY/OR/ PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. Min. $5 deposit required. Eligibility restrictions apply. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Get ready to dive headfirst into a heated debate about the nominees for the SNL Hall of Fame! Join jD and his esteemed panel - Jon Schneider, Andy Hoglund, and Andrew Clark - as we dissect the 15 new nominees and discuss who should make the cut. With a stacked lineup of talent to choose from, this episode is guaranteed to be a rollercoaster ride of opinions and insights.We kick things off by discussing the legendary John Belushi and Bill Murray, delving into their legacies and why they should undoubtedly be inducted into the Hall of Fame. We also tackle the question of whether the Lonely Island crew deserves a spot on the ballot, and explore the impact of other SNL greats like Buck Henry, Dana Carvey, and Christopher Walken. Strap in for a whirlwind of passionate opinions and spirited debates about the show's most iconic contributors.As we wrap up our discussion, we shift the focus to other nominees like Dana Carvey, Rosie Schuster, Jeff Richards, and Don Pardo, debating their merits and contributions to the show. We even consider the role of music in SNL's identity and touch on the possibility of an annual honorary award. Don't miss this exciting episode as we weigh in on who should be immortalized in the SNL Hall of Fame!Transcript0:00:08 - Speaker 1It's the SNL Hall of Fame podcast with your host, jamie Dube, chief librarian Thomas Senna, and featuring Matt Bardille And now curator of the hall, jamie Dube. 0:00:42 - Speaker 2Hey and welcome to the SNL Hall of Fame round table. It's JD here and I'm glad to be joining you once again on the SNL Hall of Fame, a podcast which is a weekly affair. Each episode, we take a deep dive into the career of a former cast member, host, musical guest or writer and add them to the ballot for your consideration. Once the nominees have been announced, we turn to you, the listener, to vote for the most deserving and help determine who will be enshrined for perpetuity in the hall. Well, this isn't a normal episode. This is a very special episode. We have put all the nominations up, There have been 15 new nominees added to the remaining ballot And today we're going to invite some people to share their ballots and go from there. So why don't we introduce who we've got to? my immediate right is John Schneider. How are you doing, John? 0:01:37 - Speaker 3I'm doing great, Jamie. Always great to be here. Feet are wiped and ready to go. 0:01:42 - Speaker 2Excellent, oh, i didn't say it The one time I don't say it. 0:01:46 - Speaker 3We don't just say you know like it's not like a foot fetish thing. Jamie always introduces and tells people to wipe their feet. So it's not John being, you know, having a fit thing. 0:01:56 - Speaker 4I think John just kind of a little revealing about himself. actually, That's my takeaway. 0:02:00 - Speaker 3I mean, they do call this the SNL Hall of Feet. Right, That's where we are. 0:02:04 - Speaker 4Yes, of course John's not on his show, so he's getting a little racy. 0:02:08 - Speaker 2We don't got the teens listening in. He's got the host belt off. 0:02:14 - Speaker 3Let's go. 0:02:16 - Speaker 2All right, Andrew. Hey, how's it going I? 0:02:19 - Speaker 5am super duper, feeling great. It's very sunny here in Toronto. 0:02:23 - Speaker 2Excellent. And Andy Hogland, how are you doing? 0:02:27 - Speaker 4Hey, I'm going. Good man, It's Hogland. Though I'm just going to be straight, It's pronounced Hogland. 0:02:31 - Speaker 2Did I just do it. I just asked you and then I did it. 0:02:34 - Speaker 4You just asked me, so that's why I'm calling it out. 0:02:35 - Speaker 2Oh that's great. No, you can totally do that, because No, I'm feeling good, man. 0:02:39 - Speaker 4I'm surrounded by a couple of Canadians, which is cool. I've never had that before. It's like having an orgy with Justin Trudeau. Let's do this. I'm just keeping it racy. John set the tone. 0:02:52 - Speaker 3Yeah, I thought we were just doing foot stuff. Andy, You took it to a whole other level. 0:02:57 - Speaker 2All right, let's dive into our program today. The first thing I want to do is to remind everybody who is currently in the SNL Hall of Fame We've had two wonderful seasons and we've inducted three separate classes. The inaugural class was, of course, lauren Michaels. In this class of season one, we inducted Dan Ackroyd, chris Farley, tina Fey as a writer, phil Hartman, steve Martin as a host, eddie Murphy and Gilda Radner All, if they weren't noted, were cast members. Then the class of season two we had Alec Baldwin as a host, will Ferrell as a cast member, bill Hader as a cast member, tom Hanks as a host, norm MacDonald as a cast member, seth Meyers as a writer, mike Meyers as a cast member and Kristen Wiig as a cast member. So pretty highfalutin company to be rubbing elbows with. But we've got a really excellent list of nominees and I just want to go through them for you before we kick off the show, because this is a stellar list right here. Amy Poehler, beyonce, Bill Murray, bach, henry, candice Bergen, christopher Walken, conan O'Brien, dana Carvey, dave Grohl, dick Ebersol, drew Barrymore, elliott Gould, elvis Costello, emma Stone, frank and Davis, herb Sargent, jack Handy, james Downey, jan Hooks, jane Curtin, john Belushi, john Goodman, john Malaney, justin Timberlake, lily Tomlin, maya Rudolph, melissa McCarthy, michael O'Donohue, miley Cyrus, molly Shannon, paul McCartney, paul Rudd, paul Simon, paul LaPell, prince, rihanna, robert Smigel, scarlett Johansson, the Lonely Island and Tom Pretty and the Heartbreakers Guys, this would be a great if this was the lineup for the 50th anniversary show. you would be like that's a pretty freaking good lineup. 0:05:06 - Speaker 4And how did John Belushi get out of his get out of hell? 0:05:11 - Speaker 2Oh boy, oh boy, it's on already. Well, no comment, let's jump right into it. Then We'll start to my right with John, and the way we'll do this is John will announce one of his nominees. I will tabulate it here. I've got a little sheet that I'm keeping keeping score with to make sure that everybody stays in their allotment of 15 votes up to 15 votes and to make sure that everybody elects at least one of each of the four main categories. There's been a lot of questions with Dick Abrasall being nominated and he does not fall into any of the four categories. Currently He is a producer and that's where he'll stay. So John is going to name his first ballereteer and then I'll go to Andy and Andrew to ask if they have them on their ballot and we'll go from there. That's how this show is going to work. Let's do it, john, with your first pick. Who have you got? All right, you're on the clock. 0:06:10 - Speaker 3This is a stacked lineup of people to choose from, but looking through there is one person that I looked at this list and said there is no question whatsoever that they should not be on everyone's ballot. This person has to get into the SNL Hall of Fame and it might be a little bit of a hot take, an unconventional pick, but it's Amy Poehler. And the reason why it's Amy Poehler is because she has the highest sketch per episode average among women in the history of the show. If you take out Charlie Rocket, she's actually top four among everybody in the history of the show. Before she was on the show, the show was on for 28 years or 27 seasons. There had never been a woman who led a season in sketch appearances until Amy Poehler did that. To me she is fantastic. Did weekend update, had amazing characters, impressions, blended a couple of eras. To me she is a surefire Hall of Famer. Slam Dunk. 0:07:10 - Speaker 2Wow, you heard it here first. Folks Slam Dunk, Andy, what do you think? 0:07:16 - Speaker 4Respectfully, amy is not on my ballot. Actually I totally understand John's rationale. I will say just as a bit of context you know, when Ryan Tibbs, when he circulates all the Hall of Fame ballots for baseball every year, i'm always fascinated by the rationale that individual voters give or don't give. I just think it's really fascinating color. So just for the listeners to adjust their radio dials to my frequency a little bit. I followed two rules when I came up with my ballot. The first is Justice Potter Stewart's famous phrase where he described his threshold for obscenity in his 1964 landmark Supreme Court decision, jacob vs Ohio, and I know it when I see it, which is to mean I instinctively have a very pure bar for who belongs or does not belong in the Hall of Fame, like Ted Knight and Caddyshack. But the second is also like baseball sportswriters, i'm leaning a little bit towards the historic picks, you know, and I'm a little disinclined to give it to some of the newer cast members. So Amy unfortunately sort of fell into that category a little bit where I just my mind went to more towards people in the 70s or 80s And Amy I kind of associate with some of the newer eras, even though it has been 20 years So she's not on my ballot And honestly she kind of mugs it a little bit for me So I don't like the mugging and I was just disinclined with everyone else who was available. 0:08:51 - Speaker 2Wow, shots fired. Yeah, Andrew, Mr Clark, I can do that too. 0:08:58 - Speaker 5Yes, i did have Amy on my ballot because I think that she was important for the show, for the success of that show and making it sort of, you know, rejuvenate itself when it did. And also I kind of see Amy Poehler and Tina Fey as being very important as influences in comedians who are now in their early 20s, who are inspired by those two. So I kind of number one her contributions, the characters that she brought, the writing that she brought, all of those strengths And then also, i think, her importance almost as something that people aspire to become. So now we have all these wonderful young comedians, female and female identifying comedians, who are doing a lot of work. So I kind of give her her props. But I could see and I agree 100% with Andy that you know we're going to get as we go down the list. There are some people who are very, very significant in the history of the show In the 70s. It may be people who just started watching in the last five to 10 years who recognized who. We're going to disappoint each other today, i guess, is what I'm trying to say, but I got to tell you I think Amy belongs in the whole thing. 0:10:11 - Speaker 4Can I challenge John on air right now? You can do whatever you want. John, if I'm not mistaken, I believe you and I are aligned that several of Amy's years are among the shows worse, is that not accurate? 0:10:28 - Speaker 3Yes, there are a couple in there that are rough. 0:10:33 - Speaker 4So, john, i just want to throw that out, not to call out, but being the best of the worst, that is a crazy argument, stop this. 0:10:42 - Speaker 3I'm sorry this is a crazy argument, because if you're going to say that, then we're saying anyone who participated in those two years. The fact is that Amy Poehler was not a cast member for those two years. She was a cast member for much longer, like I said, for six years in a row, from 2002 to 2008,. every single season she led the cast in sketch appearances. To me, she dominated those years on the show which, by the way, weren't just those two bad years. they led into a golden era of the show, probably for the first time in a generation. So I respect and I will have people on my ballot who were on the show in the 70s and the 80s, but we're not doing the Hall of Fame of the 70s, we're doing the Hall of Fame of Saturday Night Live and, let's be real, amy Poehler has been a major part of the second half of the existence of the show. 0:11:27 - Speaker 4Yeah, no argument, just wanted to get that on the record briefly, just for full context, that John does think Amy's era is among the worst. 0:11:37 - Speaker 3I did not know. That is not what I think, but I'll fight you on that another time. 0:11:44 - Speaker 2Yeah, let's move forward here and, Andrew, we're going to continue with you. 0:11:48 - Speaker 5Okay, well, my pick is somebody who, without whom I don't think there would be have been any history of Saturday Night Live. It's someone who, when he sadly passed away, my friends and I held a toga party for which I was roundly punished by my parents. We were at the ripe old age of 16. I'm talking about John Belushi. So I believe that John Belushi absolutely has to be in the Hall of Fame because he and that cast, and him and Dan Acroy particularly, were really what made the whole thing explode. Chevy Chase was a huge part of it, but I think they were the engine that really ran the show And he was the first true, true breakout star. He had a much brighter trajectory, if you ask me, than Chevy Chase. I'm going to. I got to say John Belushi's hands down, in my opinion, has to be in. 0:12:39 - Speaker 2Great pick. 0:12:40 - Speaker 4Thank you, andy, totally agree, yeah, i mean. any words to use to describe John Belushi's legacy on SNL or in comedy have already been uttered before, so I don't have too much to contribute beyond that. continental divide is an underrated romantic comedy. 0:13:00 - Speaker 2All right, mr Schneider, he is definitely on the list. 0:13:04 - Speaker 3I'm of the belief that every original cast member should be in the Hall of Fame just by default for what it's worth. But you know there would be. You know Saturday Live was was good and Chevy obviously brought a lot, but there was nothing like the energy that John Belushi brought to the show, like he made it a, like he made it must watch television because he never knew what he was going to do on a given night, starting all the way from the beginning with the Joe Cocker stuff, moving to the Blues Brothers stuff, like everything. He was a force. So you know, like Andy said, there's been so much written about him. If you know SNL, you know John Belushi, even if he's been gone for so many years, and that's a testament to the legacy of him. So I think it's a no brainer to put him in. 0:13:40 - Speaker 2Yeah, so that's our first, our first, well, in honor of the new Zelda game, our first try for us. So, andy, who have you got up? 0:13:51 - Speaker 4I have Bill Murray, who is arguably the the most accomplished and talented cast member to come out of the show. You know, i think you know. All all things being equal, he does have a bit of asterisk on on his legacy, courtesy of Kiki Palmer, but nevertheless his accomplishments since living leaving 8h are Unrivaled. Give or take a ghostbuster, you know, oscar nomination or Wes Anderson collaboration. But look like, even those merits aside, you know Murray is a pivotal figure in the show's history, the first replacement cast member. There's been what like a hundred and seventy cast members in the show's history. Eight or nine, like John just mentioned, are that original 1975, you know, upstart, not ready for prime-time players. You know Murray sets the mold for joining a cast in midstream, which is a path that almost everyone else in the show's history has has had to emulate in one way or another. And Look, i'll be honest, i'm not in high school anymore. The, that combination of smarm and self-aware irony that made him a legend to Letterman fans and and the geeks and freaks and geeks. It doesn't quite do it for me as it as it once did, but still honker, the nerds, nick, the lounge slinger, his, his awards commentary on update. These are essential early SNL characters. The show simply post-chevy, doesn't exist without them. So that's my argument and stick into it. 0:15:17 - Speaker 2John, how do you feel about Bill Murray? 0:15:19 - Speaker 3Yeah, i totally agree. He's definitely a shoe in for me for the Hall of Fame. His analytics are off the charts. He's also a top five sketchbook episode. Um, get her in the in the history of the show. Just, he was producing every single night once he finally found his groove, i guess towards the end of season two, and he, you know, you don't think of him as when you look back at season three, four, five, lot of people don't think of him as the star. But he really really was. He was so good and did so much. And I Totally agree with Andy. I think that the show is in a dark, dark place if he doesn't jump onto it when he did so. For me I mean, think about that, right, we talk. You know, we may end up talking about Jim Downey at some point tonight. I mean the fact that that Bill Murray and Jim Downey joined the show to add some life into it. When the show is losing Chevy, i mean it just incredible stuff. So for me Can't, can't have a Hall of Fame without Bill Murray. 0:16:08 - Speaker 5Well, we're breaking all the rules of podcasting and radio by agreeing with one another. But yeah, i Bill Murray absolutely. Some people get changed by being on Saturday Night Live. Bill Murray changed Saturday Night Live. He didn't alter himself. I don't believe at all. When he went on that show He had deep us. You know second city chops. The reports about him when he was in Toronto are legendary How he would deal with hecklers, we'll just leave it at that. He didn't take crap from anybody and he's had an absolutely stunning career, dramatically and comedically right. And I work with Robin Duke, who's just retired at Humber, and you know some of the stories she talked about. Bill Murray sort of Helping her when she was on Groundhog Day and Explaining how the cameras worked and how you had to sort of act in order so the editing could happen Shows you that it's not only kind of a creative genius, it's a real technical skill and an understanding of how movies and stuff work. So I think that all goes together for Bill Murray. I agree He's absolutely should be in there. Great. 0:17:15 - Speaker 2Wow, another try, force, boom. Where are we at then? We're back to John, right, yeah? Okay, john, create some controversy. I. 0:17:25 - Speaker 3Mean, i think, controversy was already created, when I suppose so yeah, well, even even going into last season, when the biggest travesty to be left out of getting into the hall of fame to me was Jan Hooks because that was that was insane to me. I mean you're talking about you know, andy was talking about what he sees when he looks for in a cast member. The eye test is definitely there when I was going away. Yeah, i mean this is, this is insanity. I mean she comes in season 12, just is Incredible, like, just can do everything that you possibly would have wanted on the show, and Just the heart and soul of that second generation, the second golden era of the show, and obviously we lost her and 2014 and it was just, you know, her, you know thinking about the stuff She produced with Phil Hartman, and stuff is so heartwarming, so many great sketches, so many amazing impressions to me, you know, i always, you know, hear from people who were Just obsessed with Jan hooks, absolutely fell in love with her on the show, and it wasn't even just that. She was, you know, so beautiful in the way that she performed. She was just so naturally talented and gifted to be on the show and it was so important For the generation that was to come. You hear Tina Fey and Amy Poehler and my riddle talk about how Jan hooks was so important. Tina Fey put Jan hooks on 30 Rock at some point. You know, like that's the type of thing that you know, she. She left a legacy behind and to me she needs to be in all of him. 0:18:48 - Speaker 2Yeah, i agree. She finished last last vote with like what 40%, 39.8%. She's got a long hill ahead. I'm afraid it's not gonna happen in this bet. She's round for her either. But but I agree with you, it's shameful. She's she's an all-timer. She's an all-timer, you know She's in. She's in the female rush more right or the yeah, the female SNL cast rush more. 0:19:10 - Speaker 4Everything that John said about Amy Poehler is true about Jan hooks. I'm gonna do a hot take that minus the analytics. 0:19:18 - Speaker 2Well that's. 0:19:18 - Speaker 4That's Mike Murray. 0:19:22 - Speaker 2So you have, you have her, is it safe to say, then, in your Hall of Fame, andy. 0:19:27 - Speaker 4Absolutely, and it doesn't. I don't even know why, why we should justify it. It's just, it's so clear to me that she belongs there. Why? why even let's have like like 30 seconds of dead space and then just move on. 0:19:42 - Speaker 5Yeah, i mean, i think part of what Jan hook and people in that cast suffer from a little bit is that that skip between Internet and not internet. So a lot of the stuff comes later. And so the other cast members, the later cast members, their stuff is available online a lot more easily than Jan hook stuff Because when it's getting filmed it's not been signed off copyright for Dispersal on the web and everything, so it's you have to work harder to get some of it. So I think actually there's just people who haven't seen what she did with Phil Hartman as much. You kind of have to be a bit more of a of an aficionado. But yeah, there's absolutely no question that the stuff she did with just with Phil Hartman alone is so iconic for that show. I mean, it's hard to imagine her without and the range of characters and also doing a kind of She kind of epitomized, the kind of like I don't know how to put it not po, yeah, post feminist Anxed, being run through Reaganomics and then through the Clint near and everything that kind of. You know, there was always a real edge to her material, even if she was doing like a sweet domestic character. 0:20:48 - Speaker 2Oh, she was great. She was just great. I just recently watched the diner, the Alec Baldwin diner sketch, and just So, so funny. You know, she's just natural gosh. Okay, so far we've had hooks on all three ballots. Another try force That one actually makes a triangle in my little, in my little spreadsheet that I made. Wow, that's funny. So we're gonna come back to Andrew Clark and I'm gonna challenge you to do something other than a cast member. 0:21:19 - Speaker 5Okay, well for me then I would go with Christopher Walken as host. Great, even though I spoke about Elliot Gould as host this season. I and who and I would make an argument for him too. But it's hard to make the argument over Christopher Walken because of his relationship with the show. You can almost give it to him just for cowbell, because it's become. You know that when your sketch has its own range of t-shirts Not just a t-shirt but range you know you've entered the vernacular. I think Christopher Walken Was a sort of must-watch host. People will always be attentive. He again didn't let the show really change what he did. He sort of brought what he did into the show. The fact that he has so many iconic Recur like characters as a as a host, i think is a good argument for Christopher Walken to be, you know, in the Hall of Fame as a host. 0:22:11 - Speaker 2Great John or Andy to either of you have mr Walken in the Hall of Fame on your balance, Oh right. 0:22:18 - Speaker 4Yeah, i mean, look, he has his own best of right, he has recurring characters. I mean, you know I don't remember offhand Deferred a John on the number of times that he's literally hosted, but you know, it almost gets to the point where when you have that, that body of work, you know You're, you're not, you're not a cast member, but there's just so much there that your, your, you know your tombstone deserves a reference to. You know You're time with the show. So shout out to the, the continental. And yeah, i totally agree. 0:22:49 - Speaker 3Yeah, same here He was. I'll say he was a little bit more borderline for me. Nothing against Walken, he didn't make my ballot, but he was. He was close being cut because there's a lot of really good options this time, including among those. I don't think he I wouldn't put him in the upper pantheon of greatest hosts in the history of the show. I think he's probably I mean, unless you're gonna put all the five timers there But I think he's that like next grouping and he's probably near the top of that. So for me there was a few of those on the list and he just made it. 0:23:20 - Speaker 2Oh, wow, okay, you guys have agreed a lot, so we'll go to Andy and, andy, i'll challenge you to do the same thing, something that isn't in the cast member category. 0:23:31 - Speaker 4Yeah, yeah, no, not a challenge at all. It's the, the next name on my list. Matter of fact, it's, it's buck Henry. Bring him on as a host. You know, one of the, the early, important hosts who kind of validates the show right Cuz, because buck Henry belongs in a Different comedic generation. You know, get smart and all that you know. But he's he's, he's a steady presence during those, those for five years, lending, lending a lot of credibility. And then, if I recall correctly, is the host of the, the final show of that era To. You know, and and John mentioned Jan hooks on 30 Rock. I mean, as as as Jane Krasinski's mom, buck Henry, as as Liz lemons dad was, was always so funny to me. But I think his, his tenure on on SNL throughout those first five years Definitely warrants his inclusion onto the hall and and has one of the the darkest sketches in the, the show's history. And I love when, when the show kind of makes, makes a bold play like that and it makes Child molesting part of the fun. You know, cuz you don't see that enough People are so uptight when you agree, John. 0:24:42 - Speaker 3I mean can't, can't, not watch Uncle Roy. Yeah, i mean, i got to talk. I was blessed to get to talk about Buck Henry on one of the episodes of the SNL Hall thing, so I've made my case for him. I am as big of a fan as Buck Henry, as you know. Anyone could possibly be. I think he, like, is so good He people say Steve Martin could have been a cast member. Well, i think Buck Henry could have been a cast member. He fit in so seamlessly. We talked a lot about Buck being the one who would take the sketches that no one else wanted to take. That is such an important Rule as a host and I do believe for decades. When they, you know, bring on hosts, they use Buck Henry as a template for what they look for if a host will return or not. They judge them on the Buck Henry category, like did you do the buck stuff? and I think that he is just to me. We talked I mentioned, you know, the upper pantheon of hosts. I think he's in that, that top room of greatest hosts in the history of the show. 0:25:39 - Speaker 5Andrew, yeah, you're probably gonna regret me on the show because I'm just gonna keep going. Oh yeah, that guy was great. But with Buck Henry I think the other thing that he did for the show was he lent a certain gravitas to the show because you remember, he's someone who Work, you know, adapted cash 22, he did the owl in the pussycat, he worked as a co-writer on the graduate, so he's kind of like Hollywood Hip and so being on Saturday Night Live really I think gave that element to to the show and, of course, to him as well. And then he did. He did so fantastically and he's always so game. So I agree with John's point. Like, if you know, when you talk, when you hear people interviewed who was a great host, they always seem to say cast members It doesn't matter what cast say that the host was game, they were willing to try, they're willing to do something. And you got that in spades with Buck Henry. He was obviously happy to be there and, yeah, some seminal characters and and a lot of his work later. I still love his work in the player you know it's the graduate, but with the stroke I mean he had those improvisational chops that he brought to the show or heaven can wait. 0:26:45 - Speaker 4He's great in that. 0:26:46 - Speaker 2There you go another try for Stryforce. Holy John, will you throw a Curveball here and strike us out? I'm gonna challenge you again to Pick from another category. 0:27:00 - Speaker 3Sure, I would love to other than cast members. I mean I'm gonna try and do something that I've been trying to do since this podcast started, which is get the lonely island Into the Hall of Fame. I mean, what, what is going on with people? I mean, do they not realize that they changed Saturday Night Live for the better? like, the show you're watching now is Influenced by the Lonely Island more than most of the names on this list. Like, let's just be real. So You know, and and outside of SNL was often, you know, influenced by the Lonely Island, including a lot of things you see on social media now. So, but you know, for just talking about what happened on the show, i mean, these guys came in, they wrote Brilliant pre-tape sketches. They went viral. People who were not watching Saturday Night Live came back to the show because of the things that the Lonely Island was producing. They were largely responsible for creating cast members becoming huge stars And as hosts as well. I mean they would bring in, you know, hosts into these Music videos or sketches that they were doing and then people would learn and get to know these hosts and they would become bigger Stars outside of the show. And then, you know, every now and then, they throw in this random Music video with an artist that would just come in. It's like, oh my god, t-pain this year now, like just the craziness that they would get into. I mean, for there's a lot of hyperbole when it comes to the Lonely Island, but I think it's well deserved, because they are some of the greatest writers in the history of the show. 0:28:19 - Speaker 2Absolutely 100%. The most baffling thing so far that has occurred in in the Hall of Fame is the voting for the Lonely Island 52% to start and last year went up to 62.6%, just a smidge under the requisite 66.6, but I just can't figure it out. The. I've made a correction on the ballot this year and I've included any of the group for David Frank and the Davis, for example. I have a parenthetical Al Franken, tom Davis, i have for Lonely Island. I haven't broken down by their members too, so people can see maybe Andy Sandberg and Have a better understanding. We'll see, we'll see. Does anybody else have the Lonely Island on their ballot? 0:29:07 - Speaker 5I didn't, and I think that says more about me than it does. The Lonely Island, to be quite honest, because I think John made a very strong case and I think they're heard a little bit by being a group to be honest, and not just a person. And then when I think about McGroober, which is my favorite film of all time, and that it comes out of the Lonely Island with Jorma Directing it, that I'm almost to just make the Lonely Island put them back onto my ballot just based on that, that McGroober comes out of it, yeah, i would just say they weren't on mine. I think that has more to say about me than it does to say about the Lonely Island, quite honestly, because I Don't think at the time when I was watching it that I understood how important those videos were for bringing new viewers to the show via Online, not through traditional broadcast. And then, of course, later on, i don't want to go on and on, but, like you know, never stop, never stop, stopping. It comes out of it. Yeah, what was like one of my daughter had like on a loop. So I again I think I'm gonna plead the old man card slightly here and so I will yield, if need be to put them on. I'm gonna push over, i'm afraid, but but they weren't on, but that doesn't mean they don't deserve to be. Do you have to be far too agreeable? I'm sorry, i apologize. 0:30:21 - Speaker 2I will start to be mean. Do you have space on your ballot? Did you use all 15 votes? I'd have to get rid of somebody. 0:30:30 - Speaker 5Let's see, it would have to be. It would have to be a writer, wouldn't it? Well see, i have Jackhand. Well, i shouldn't give it away, so I would have to give away somebody. Can I wait and see? 0:30:42 - Speaker 3Yes, We're gonna convince you Yeah. 0:30:44 - Speaker 5Yes, i'll put them on ice for Andy. 0:30:47 - Speaker 2Where are you at? Do you have a lonely island on yours? 0:30:49 - Speaker 4I'm embarrassed to say that they're not on mine. I I totally, totally agree with everything that John said. You know, we were definitely still in the shadow of the Lonely Island. You know, 15 years later. You know, please don't destroy P Davidson and Chris Redd, like these guys are making just really pale imitations of what Lonely Island did. And you can't write the the history of YouTube without Lonely Island, right? like you really can't. I'm embarrassed, but my philosophy going into this was it's they'll have time to to make it into the Hall of Fame. You know Buck Henry won't. You know Buck Henry's dead. He's not coming back. 0:31:27 - Speaker 3The list is not on the show anymore, andy. I just want you to know that they're not producing new content. They're both Buck Henry and the Lonely Islands. Their careers at SNL are done. Come back and host like there's, but this is not an. Andy Samberg hosting thing. This is the Lonely Island writers on the show as writers on the show See okay, Well, all right. 0:31:46 - Speaker 2Well, let's get cute about this, You know okay so you're gonna be nominated at some point, i'm sure. 0:31:51 - Speaker 4Hold on, let's, let's, let's just double check for a second. So it says Lonely Island as a writer. So that means it's not really the videos, right, it's about they wrote all the videos? Well, yes, but when you watch those videos you're like the writing is really what makes it here. You know, or is it Andy Samberg's performance, or is it T-Pain singing? So if we want to get cute for a second, maybe it's not that at all. 0:32:16 - Speaker 3It's. It's the writing. What this is insane. 0:32:18 - Speaker 2This is what you're. If you're a sketch troupe, you you know you're you're likely going to be Attributed writer status to everything you do, whether it's you know Performance or or not you know. 0:32:34 - Speaker 4I guess my point is maybe Right. It would be a Hall of Famer as a cast member. Maybe Lonely Island, maybe it's not their time yet, i don't know. There's there's a lot of, there's a lot of competitive people here and You know, if I want to justify myself Which I do, it's it's maybe the categories not right. Maybe they shouldn't be here as a writer right now. 0:32:56 - Speaker 2Interesting. 0:32:57 - Speaker 3Well, this is the most insane thing I've ever heard. I love Andy, i this is insane. Okay, nobody is walking around being like oh yeah, i love it. When Rihanna was like that, like oh yeah, that was that, you know. Like it was the Lonely Island It wasn't the people appearing in the sketches with them Like that was great, that was a cherry on top, but this is an insane take. Well, i'm not sure what that meant, but, okay, sorry you, you drove me nuts, that's what. I don't know who Rihanna is. First of all, sorry, canadians. 0:33:31 - Speaker 4Look, look, i mean, this is an important argument to have. I just wonder. I mean the McGroober thing that almost if you guys want to call me out on my BS here, you should say they wrote McGroober, they should be in, you know they wrote McGroober They should be in. 0:33:49 - Speaker 3There you go. 0:33:51 - Speaker 5I'm easily pushed around. I just want to establish that. I hope I've established that for anybody watching, listening at the moment. Yeah, i'm gonna come up tough soon, believe me. 0:34:00 - Speaker 4It was Samberg as a cast member, i'd be like, hmm, but I don't know. Does the whole group deserve to be in? yes, maybe maybe not a couple of cobley Maybe, so I think so. 0:34:11 - Speaker 3Sorry, jamie, i know, i know we don't like to do 20 minutes on the Lone Island, but I just have to ask just one more question. Yeah, just just just as sink Lee explained to me your thesis statement for why the Lonely Island should not be in the Hall of Fame right now. 0:34:24 - Speaker 4Absolutely So. As I said at the start of this podcast you know, if, john, you want to rewind a couple minutes I said that my approach is similar to the sports writers who, philosophically, have blinders on and say I'm not, not anyone from the stair from the steroids era. You know, there's sports writers who say Clemens bonds, they just don't deserve to be in. Or they say, oh well, maybe this person will get in on a later ballot, but right now, historically, i want to get Michael O'Donoghue in, or I want to get Harold Baines in, or whatever you know. So it's just that my argument is more philosophic than it is a Representation of their legacy on the show, because what you said actually was very eloquent and well put. But this is a competitive Conversation and there's a lot of other people who I think aren't in the Hall of Fame yet, you know, including Bill Murray, including, you know, for God's sakes, dana Carvey. They pick up the slots. The slots get eaten up, i'm sorry, by people who've been waiting for years, john, years. 0:35:29 - Speaker 2They've got the call now, though. 0:35:31 - Speaker 4Exactly. Think of Dana Carvey at home right now. You know with his sons What, how he's gonna feel when Jamie calls him and let him know. Do you want to deny? 0:35:39 - Speaker 2him that, no that he can win one of these. 0:35:42 - Speaker 3Oh wow. Let me just say to all the listeners as we wrap up this conversation Andy Hogan is unequivocally wrong about this. Please think about the history of the show and how influential these guys are. 0:35:55 - Speaker 4Think about how Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds aren't in the baseball Hall of Fame. That's where I'm coming from. 0:36:01 - Speaker 2Listen, they potentially cheated. They did cheat, but who? 0:36:07 - Speaker 4cares. So did Willie may. Willie mays cheated who cares? 0:36:10 - Speaker 2Yeah, I remember all right, all right. 0:36:12 - Speaker 3We were covering the show and then we found out that Yorma was doing steroids. Like how crazy was that. 0:36:16 - Speaker 2That's right. That's right. 0:36:18 - Speaker 4I'm sure they were cocaine is the steroids of Studio 8. age Balushi out Yeah right, all right, andrew. 0:36:26 - Speaker 2Who have you got next? 0:36:28 - Speaker 5I'm gonna make things a little controversial and I'm gonna pick Prince as the musical guest. Oh okay, i believe he was on four times. Every time is a home run. It's Prince, he's the greatest, like he should just get in on virtue of having been Prince. I'm a little bit of a fan, but I also think that Prince always brought a little bit of a sense of humor about himself, even when he was being the most Prince like, so to speak. And I also speak as someone who saw Prince live and He wasn't an absolutely Unquestionably probably one of the greatest performers I've ever seen. So I'm gonna say Prince as As musical guests. I want to put it out there Everybody, vote for Prince. 0:37:17 - Speaker 2Does anybody else have Prince on their ballot? 0:37:20 - Speaker 3I don't, i mean I love Prince, prince, i would die for you, but I just. But, yeah, i mean the musical guest category for me is as limited as possibly be because there are so many Like stacked people in the other categories. Yeah, so for me I had to pick one, maybe two, one that I think is at the top of that list, and fortunately there are other people that did have more influence on SNL than Prince did. 0:37:46 - Speaker 2I should think Prince has a career that the trajectory is similar to SNL. It's a few years off. But that first performance in 79 I think it is is like really, really good and He's sort of unknown. You know he's just this, you know Performer, one of those cool ones that you get to see on SNL and turns out they turn into you know A really big deal. And then the right parenthetical on the on the end of his career is just the legend of him playing the. It was the 40th right. 0:38:20 - Speaker 5That's right. 0:38:21 - Speaker 2The after party you know, so really interesting. Cool, andy, who have you got up next? 0:38:27 - Speaker 4My next person is Actually we talked about this briefly Dana Carvey. How is Dana Carvey not in this hall of fame yet? Is this really his first ballot? 0:38:36 - Speaker 2This is his first ballot. Yeah Well, because we produced the show where we You know having a lot of him every year. Right, it's staggered. It's just staggered across the board because I Didn't do, i didn't think of this idea in 1980. If I did, you know that would have been well, that's not here, nor that I mean to me. 0:38:54 - Speaker 4Dana Carvey, you could argue, is the best pure cast member in the show's history. So the fact that he's just now on the first ballot and isn't yet in the Hall of Fame, it raises a lot of Troubling questions. 0:39:08 - Speaker 2Do you think he will get a higher voting percentage Than the current holder, which is Will Ferrell? 0:39:17 - Speaker 4Probably not just because Will Ferrell came of age as a cast member with, with people who you know, maybe Participating this a little bit more. I mean, that's the only argument that I could really understand is that Carvey's, you know, made his debut 37 years ago, you know. so maybe people don't quite appreciate, but when I started watching SNL in the 90s I mean Garth Hansen, franz, Oh my god, absolutely, that's. 0:39:42 - Speaker 2That's why I started watching in 86. It's 91.8% is what will Ferrell got last year. 0:39:48 - Speaker 3Here's. The major difference, though, is that will Ferrell dominated his era, whereas Dana Carvey didn't. He's definitely on my ballot and I agree with the notion that he's one of the best Cast members of all time, but he is among a group of elite cast members, including Phil and Jen, and he slides into that generational group really well. But, yeah, the reason that I loved how Andy said best is because best is typically defined as having like the skill set to succeed on the show. Right, it's like are you a naturally born sketch performer that it was just built in a lab to do Saturday night live? Yeah, and a Carvey is that. 0:40:23 - Speaker 4So there's impressions. Yeah, i mean to John's point and this kind of goes back to our initial Conversation about Amy Poehler. You know, will Ferrell is on at a time that I wouldn't consider a golden age, you know. So he dominated. Yeah, dana Carvey is probably the best, or among the best, cast members of, obviously, a golden age, a second golden age Like murderers row, though it's like. 0:40:52 - Speaker 2You know how do you pick between Gary and and babe, right, you know what I mean. 0:40:56 - Speaker 4Yeah, i mean, they're both first balladers. 0:40:58 - Speaker 5Yeah, Yeah and he also. He's also working with Mike Myers, that's right. This is who's also and he's sort of garth to Mike. I mean that I would agree that he's definitely should be in, because if you try to order an SNL cast member over the phone and Then Amazon shipped it to your house, it would be Dana Carvey, right, right. He literally epitomizes all of the things that you would want and you know, i think he's, he's for me, he's, he's unquestionable. 0:41:26 - Speaker 2Cool, back to John. 0:41:28 - Speaker 3Yeah, so I'm gonna round out my cast category, if that's okay with you, jamie, with someone who I think was so important in the history of the show and that's Jane Curtin. She comes in to host weekend updates right after Chevy Chase and Jess absolutely crushes it, see. You know, shows everybody why. You know She was meant to do that job and it was. You know it was a man's world. Unfortunately, at the time a lot of people felt like it and like for her to break through that mold was so great. I mean, let alone not not not only the stuff on weekend update, but the fact that she would anchor sketches the way that she did and have like play that straight woman role so well, where she would be like you know, think about, like looks at books and sketches like that, where she would be side-by-side with Gilda Radner And Gilda would be doing a crazy character. Or her interactions with Emily Latella or Rosanna, rosanna Dana. She was like to me, the host of the 70s among the cast and She is one of my favorite cast members of all time, if I'm being completely honest. Just her ability to just show like the strength and poise that she did on that show when all this craziness was happening around her, so for me a she went as well great, nicely put Andrew. 0:42:38 - Speaker 5I got. You make some great points And I didn't have her. And again, it's no knock on her, but she wasn't there only because, although I think she was an integral part of that cast, if I had, if there was one person that maybe it's a terrible thing to say, honestly, it sounds like such an awful thing to say, but if she had not, if she, if she wasn't there, would it? would things be that much different? I don't know necessarily that they would, but you know, again, she's incredibly talented. Nobody we're discussing here is bad, let's put it that way. So if they're not getting it, it's not for any deficit on their part, and I think you're making some great points about her And I've heard those arguments made like, hey, jane Curtin was great. She's not getting her props by other people as well. So I don't think you're in a minority, john. So you know you make a good case, but she wasn't on mine. 0:43:33 - Speaker 3Can I? can I push back Andrew for a second? Because please? yeah, you discussed the like your argument is based in value, right? If you were to take Jane Curtin out, how does that change the 70s? So if you were to remove her from the cast? and then everything happens as is, so Chevy Chase leaves the show, who, to you, then replaces Chevy on update? and would that be better? Because I can't envision a scenario where that happens. 0:43:55 - Speaker 5Neither can I. I don't know how to answer that question. I think you make a good point. I guess it's more on the lines of I'm looking at my list and thinking who might? who would I bump for Jane Curtin? If it happens, i'd be happy. You know what I mean. If she gets in, i'll be super happy because I think she's absolutely brilliant. I guess you use the word host in a way. I think maybe she hasn't getting, hadn't got some of her credit because she was an anchor and maybe that's literally and figuratively, in an improv sense. She was an anchor at a lot of those scenes and the anchor doesn't always get all of the attention. You know, she's a little bit I hate to put like football analogy like the offensive lineman. They only get noticed if they make a mistake, if they do their job really well. It doesn't always get seen And I feel like in her cast maybe Jane Curtin was a little bit like that. There were other people getting all the press and she wasn't getting in the press for bad reasons, like bad behavior and those sorts of things. But I can't answer your question. I don't know who I would put in. 0:44:52 - Speaker 3I'm at somewhere right now. Jane Curtin is flashing her bra at the screen just hearing about getting some attention. 0:44:59 - Speaker 5Well, perhaps I hope so, John. she has Jane, I agree. I'm just getting dirty. 0:45:10 - Speaker 2All right, Andy, where are you with Jane Curtin? 0:45:13 - Speaker 4Well. So John detected I flinched a little bit when he brought her up and it's because, to be candid, about 10 minutes ago I realized, with the quirks of us picking one from each category, like Noah's Ark, i'd inadvertently left off a musical guest. So as we were talking, i had to remove Jane Curtin from my ballot. She was on there and I needed to add a musical guest. So, elvis Costello, today's your lucky day, but Jane Curtin unfortunately gets the stick, not the carrot. 0:45:46 - Speaker 2Wow, i'm pretty stunned. This is going to be an interesting vote this year. if you three are representative of the majority, i love to keep her on. 0:45:58 - Speaker 4But it's just the way this is set up. We have to include a musical guest Because, like I said, philosophically a part of me is like if Eminem's not on, i don't know if anyone deserves to be on. 0:46:10 - Speaker 2All right, andrew, your next pick. 0:46:13 - Speaker 5So then, I will be picking from the writer category because I picked a host, i picked a performer and I picked a musical guest, correct, right? And this is going to be very, very difficult for me because I spoke, i was happy enough to speak, about someone who I don't think I'm going to nominate Because does that make any sense? 0:46:33 - Speaker 2I mean, I think what you, the way it's put is, there's what? 45 nominees? 0:46:39 - Speaker 5Yeah, yeah. 0:46:40 - Speaker 2Something like that There's a lot of really talented people and you got to nominate one, but it doesn't mean that when you nominated them, maybe you were influenced by a couple of the other episodes. 0:46:49 - Speaker 5Well, no, i've got to. I got to go with James Downey as a first pilot. 0:46:54 - Speaker 2Yeah, I think so. 0:46:55 - Speaker 5I don't think there's. There's no show without him. He was the guy who also brought a certain impartiality to it And by that he always pushed back, whether it was left or right of center politically. He came to Humber and did a workshop for us and it was great to hear him talk about the work. And one thing I remember him saying was was student asked him about Norm MacDonald and the OJ Simpson jokes And why did they keep going? And I think he compared it almost to Thelma and Louise, like driving off the cliff, like they just couldn't stop. They didn't even dislike OJ or Embersol or any of those things, they just had to keep going. When you look at his influence, particularly on American elections, just some of his, yeah. So to me it's, it's Jim Downey for sure for the writer category, even though I would love to mention Jack Handy, who I'm a huge fan of. But I'm going to go James Downey for my pick today. 0:47:48 - Speaker 2Okay, well, you can have more than one writer. You can, you know you can do whatever you wish, but but I will say James Downey. I'm really interested to hear what Andy and John have to say to. Either of you have James Downey on your ballot, absolutely. You both do So, andy, tell us, tell us why he's on your ballot. 0:48:06 - Speaker 4Yeah, i mean, andrew, hit the nail on the head. You know Jim Downey was on the show. For what? Over 30 years. You know he's he's one of the most important writers in the show's history. He's one of the most important, you know, political, satirical minds or whatever However you want to put it. I love that. He's, even technically a former cast member. You know he just checks so many of the boxes and probably behind the scenes contributed to so many of the cast members that we love too, like he's talked about. You know his, his role helping Chris Farley with, with some of his characters and moments on the show, and not for nothing. Also want to shout out his, his role in there will be blood. Love his little part as Al Rose as well too. So I'm a huge Downey fan and he 100% gets my endorsement. 0:49:00 - Speaker 3John greatest writer in the history of the show No doubt gets in. 0:49:04 - Speaker 5Great, okay. Do you think that there will be blood appearance? was it was influenced by his appearance in? was it Tommy boy? 0:49:12 - Speaker 4or Billy Madison, billy Madison. 0:49:15 - Speaker 5That wonderful speech you know, I wonder. 0:49:18 - Speaker 4PT Anderson is a huge SNL fan, right Like he was there in those early 2000 days when he was courting Maya Rudolph. So yeah, probably I mean he's cast his smigol too in a in a punch drunk love. 0:49:30 - Speaker 2So oh wow, I didn't realize that was smigol Andy. Who have you got next on your ballot? 0:49:38 - Speaker 4The next person on my ballot and I apologize, i'm going alphabetical is Dick Ebersol, actually, who I don't know if that's going to be contentious or not, but you know, a part of me is like you can't write the history of the show without you. literally, he helps create the show in 70 and then he, you know, is such an important, you know voice behind the scenes that that allowed the show to exist until you know, norman Michaels came, came out of his hibernation, you know so there's no Eddie Murphy without you know, dick Ebersol, and just an important person in the history of American broadcasting. 0:50:17 - Speaker 3So why is there no Eddie Murphy without Dick Ebersol? 0:50:21 - Speaker 4Because while Eddie is under Gene Dominion's tenure, technically you know, ebersol is the one that doesn't fire Eddie and then allows Eddie to become as big as he does during his time of the show. But I appreciate the the pushback there. 0:50:41 - Speaker 3I was just gonna say like if you got delivered like a really good steak and it's like sitting on your desk like you're not going to eat it, Right, right, But he doesn't he doesn't, can Eddie either. 0:50:49 - Speaker 4You know, And I just I don't know. I think that it's still, you know, nevertheless it still exists, But I kind of think of it. As you know, the Hall of the Baseball Hall of Fame you got to, you got to have some executives in there too, you know. Or Melvin Miller should be in the Baseball Hall of Fame as well, Absolutely, And Ebersol, I think, is that kind of figure. 0:51:13 - Speaker 2So, yeah, that's my take An architect. 0:51:15 - Speaker 4Yes. 0:51:16 - Speaker 2Yes, john or Andrew is Ebersol on either of your ballots. 0:51:22 - Speaker 3He's not on my ballot for what it's worth. I do think he should be in the Hall of Fame and I think he should get the Lorne Michaels Honorary Award that you gave to Lorne to put in there, because I think he's of the category of his own. But I didn't put him in because, as he is known as his first name, he's kind of a dick, so I sort of left him off. 0:51:42 - Speaker 4Oh, that's the bar. 0:51:43 - Speaker 3Yeah, that's the bar. 0:51:45 - Speaker 4Isn't John Belushi on your list? 0:51:47 - Speaker 3Yeah, look, it's really hard to Oh Murray. No, the real reason, to be honest, is just, I'm looking through this and he makes no sense to put him in any category with any of these other people. So for me it's like his contributions are so different than everybody else here. It's like comparing apples and oranges to me, So I couldn't put him on my list, but I also know he needs to be in there. 0:52:09 - Speaker 5All right, okay, yeah, i didn't have him. I didn't have him, and you know there's some good points, but I don't know. I'd almost say, well then, maybe Rosie Schuster, only because she played an important part of those first few seasons. 0:52:24 - Speaker 4When did she run SNL? 0:52:26 - Speaker 5She never ran it but she certainly played a huge role creatively. I know It was Mary Delorn And this very funny wrote for Larry Sandershow, but I would demure, but I do think he should be in, so I just don't know where you put him. So I think an honorary exec category, maybe we should start. 0:52:44 - Speaker 2The Miller category. That's a great idea. All right, there's a lot of behind the scenes. 0:52:48 - Speaker 5People are for sure. 0:52:50 - Speaker 2Yeah, well, i even think the announcer. I can't think of his name right now off the top of my head. Don Pardo, don Pardo. 0:52:57 - Speaker 4Jesus. 0:52:58 - Speaker 3Louise, right, like Don Pardo, should be in for sure I would recommend to the committee at the SNL Hall of Fame to consider a once a year award to just give someone an auto pass in. 0:53:09 - Speaker 4Yeah, dick Ubersol, don Pardo, jeff Richards, patrick Weathers, eminem, eminem. 0:53:14 - Speaker 5Yeah, james Spoons, but I mean Andy's making a good point, because it was Dick Ubersol, along with Barry Dillard and a few others, who approached Lord Michael's a bit. So he's sort of like is the opening of the door, so to speak. Yeah, i don't know how influential he was in giving Lord Michael's a long run. I think it was 17 episodes or something that they guaranteed. But yeah, it's hard to imagine. but I guess it's spoiled for choice a little bit here. 0:53:40 - Speaker 2John, who have you got next? 0:53:43 - Speaker 3So I'll put somebody in from the musical guest category who, to me, is going in just for being for really fitting into all categories, and that would be Paul Simon. He is not in the Five Timers Club, but he is an amazing host and musical guest in the history of the show, also very influential and, a lot of you know, creative, i'm sure, but he's becoming very good friends with Lord Michael's. But yeah, i mean, paul Simon hosts the most unique episode in the history of Saturday Night Live. The second episode of the show has some really, really great appearances. You basically retire. 0:54:18 - Speaker 2Paul Simon variety show. you mean Yeah, yeah, basically exactly. 0:54:23 - Speaker 3Basically retires on the show, most recently when Seth Meyers hosted the show. He pretty much retired from music after that. But you can see his entire career throughout the history of the show And you know I wouldn't necessarily if someone says, hey, like John, who's the greatest musical guest in the history of the show, paul Simon wouldn't be top of mind. But because Paul Simon is in the musical guest category and he also has those hosting appearances and additional cameo appearances, for me just his contribution to the history of the show would lead him to be my number one musical guest choice. 0:54:51 - Speaker 2Does he appear on any other ballots? 0:54:53 - Speaker 5No, not mine, Just Prince. 0:54:57 - Speaker 2Because he's Prince. You already know. 0:54:59 - Speaker 3No, no no, Why not Paul Simon? Like? what's the reason for not putting Paul Simon on the ballot? 0:55:05 - Speaker 5I guess I just like Prince better, but I can't make any rational argument against Paul Simon, so I'll just plead the. Instead of pleading the fifth, i'll plead the Prince, but I think that next to Paul McCartney, maybe Lord Michaels has a thing for Paul's, but I think as a musical influence. And I think when and I don't want to speak for obviously I'm not speaking for Lord Michaels, but when you I think he always saw the show as part of that whole experience for that generation which was so music being so important. Paul McCartney and Paul Simon, the two Pauls, are the sort of musical anchors of that show, so to speak, and of course, sir, i think, part of his identity as a baby boomer and a member of that waves. 0:55:51 - Speaker 2How about you, Andy. 0:55:53 - Speaker 4I did not have him on my ballot, as mentioned. I'm just sort of disinclined to have musical guests on here. It's just not where I went. The one that I have is Elvis Costello, like I mentioned, but John makes a excellent historic argument in favor of Mr Simon. 0:56:11 - Speaker 2Okay, Let's move forward, then, with Andrew's next pick. 0:56:16 - Speaker 5I've got somewhat of a I think we'll be controversial pick, which is Maya Rudolph. 0:56:23 - Speaker 2Oh okay, Why do you think it's controversial? 0:56:26 - Speaker 5Well, i guess when we start looking at everybody, i mean everybody's so impressive. So maybe I'm just getting starstruck. But for my money Maya Rudolph should be in the Hall of Fame because of her unbelievable character work and her range. Especially the musically Bronx beat was always one of my favorite Sketches that she did with Amy Poehler. So I see her as someone who belongs in the Hall of Fame. But I think if you're looking, you know, and I'll leave it to Andy and John but historically I think you can argue for other people. Like you know, john could say how can you have Maya Rudolph in if you're not going to have Jen? or like how does that make any sense whatsoever? So I'm going partly on my own instinct and intuition, which is not always rational, but I'm going to say Maya Rudolph, i have that I, and she was pretty quick for me to pick her, so I'm going to go for Maya Rudolph. 0:57:21 - Speaker 2How about you, gentlemen, is Maya Rudolph on either of your ballots? No, and is there any remorse here There? 0:57:29 - Speaker 3is I mean like some what? you've heard or Yeah, i mean, look, personal taste, she's definitely on my ballot. I love her on the show. She was, you know, the you know actually watching it growing up. Her leaving the show was one of the most impactful losses I felt while watching the show because I think that she's so important and such a great cast member. But just in terms of where we are at right now in the SNL Hall of Fame voting, there are a lot of cast members I would put above her And even in her own era I don't think she was ever the number one cast member And right now I'm voting in people who are really like dominated the field. 0:58:05 - Speaker 2Yeah, And I mean you've only got what? four votes left as well At this point. You know it becomes, they become more valuable, sort of right. Right, All right, Andy. 0:58:15 - Speaker 4Yeah, i mean, look, i like my Rudolph Again. I'm just a little disinclined to have someone who you know is part of this millennium. That's just again how I went about it. I'm a little bit more slanted to people from the 70s, 80s, 90s. Actually I have a lot of writers on my ballot, to be honest. But that said, one other historic host that did make it that we've talked about briefly is Elliot Gould, again kind of similar to Buck Henry, just someone who you know gets the show early on, kind of brings some cashier when the show needs it, helps, makes it hip, and I think generally people just forget about what a big star Elliot Gould was in the 70s. Long goodbye and whatnot You know. So he's next up. You know, i'm not sure if my comrades are with me on this one, but I think you think about the Mount Rushmore of guests outside, steve Martin and Buck Henry in the 70s. You got to go with Elliot. 0:59:19 - Speaker 3Gould, i think in the 70s, is what is key here. That's why I don't have him on my list right now. I do think he is definitely a Hall of Amor, but I just think that there's hosts that are above him, that transcended multiple eras, that I think are more impactful. 0:59:34 - Speaker 4I would say Well, let's not forget about his season six stint where he's in bed with Denny Dillon and Gail Matthias and whatnot. 0:59:42 - Speaker 3I'm not forgetting about that, but I think like you know him hosting. Thank you, my best. I didn't. I just think in a span of you know those, i guess like five years in one episode. It's still like all in the same generation for the most part. So for me it was a debate for me between Christopher Walken and Elliot Gould, who would take that last spot on my ballot, and I'm pretty sure that Elliot Gould would make my next year's ballot. But I have other hosts that I think are more important or personally ones that I think are more impactful. 1:00:11 - Speaker 5Yeah, i mean, i was between Christopher Walken and Elliot Gould for me and I actually was able to talk about Elliot Gould on the show And I think you know your points are great. The other thing, of course, was you saw his musical chops. Like he had a musical theater background. I think every one of his opening model was as a musical number And he was the first one where the female cast members pretended to have a crush on him. He was the one who came on the show and canceled Star Trek. So he's a lot of really great stuff. And I

Today we're giving a huge congratulations to Aaron Judge who rushed back from injury to pass Harold Baines in WAR. Jared has an update on the Twitter drama that ensued after Kaleb Ort blocked him. Nathan Eovaldi is pitching out of his mind for the Rangers and we're taking a closer look at the stats. Joey's new segment “On Pace” debuts today and someone needs to make him a jingle. Other topics include Christopher Morel's hot streak, the worst starts through 50 games in MLB history, Trea Turner having a slow start to the year, and more! Enjoy and we'll see you tomorrow! If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA). 21+ (18+ NH/WY).  Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NH/NJ/NY/OR/ PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. Min. $5 deposit required. Eligibility restrictions apply. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The White Sox got steamrolled in the home opener...was Michael Kopech tipping his pitches? The guys break down Pedro Grifol's early bullpen management and Brian Knights joins the show to say that the "Andrew Vaughn Rakes Club" is in full display. Plus. a look ahead to the second start of the season for Dylan Cease.3:21 - Michael Kopech's rough season debut10:45 - Early impressions of Pedro Grifol and his bullpen management21:59 - Dylan Cease's incredible Opening Day start44:32 - Former 108 Tourney winner Brian Knights joins the show52:30 - A story about Harold Baines meeting Andrew Vaughn for the first time1:08:25 - Sox struggles with runners in scoring position1:21:38 - Previewing the upcoming schedule and Cease's next start1:36:46 - Picks 2 Click

We're one step closer to baseball season! Nate has discovered one team that Vegas is significantly underrating. Nate and Cole have complete opposite opinions about whether or not the Cubs were easy to rally around in the mid 2010s. Nate was put in a tough spot when Mad Dog Russo and Tony La Russa went toe to toe over whether or not Harold Baines and Lee Smith were deserving of spots in Cooperstown.

2-18-2023 Passed Ball Show. John opens up this program by explaining, in detail, why the Baseball Hall of Fame has failed both the players it has held out and the players that are being selected to enter. John claims that the essential ignorance of an entire generation of top baseball players has caused a ripple effect of campaigns for very good players to get in due to a resurgence of popularity. John also mentions the fact that the Baseball Hall of Fame can never be looked at as the place for the "elite of the elite" for two reasons: 1. being that all time greats like Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Joe Jackson, Pete Rose, and Rafael Palmeiro are NOT in. and 2. being the fact that good players that needed strong contingents (either through the inside of MLB or through online campaigns) like Scott Rolen, Harold Baines, Tony Oliva are now in. He also points out that baseball thinks racism belongs in its Hall of Fame over steroids, which put that way, is a shitty stance to take. John mourns the passing of long time MLB catcher and even longer time broadcaster Tim McCarver, whom he considers a mentor. John describes what he learned from McCarver that has become part of him. Former MLB pitcher Brian BuBois, another former PBS guest, passed away this week as well. In this day's "Saving Sports History," John talks about the before mentioned racist MLB Commissioner Kenesaw Mountain Landis and the day he resigned as a US Judge, a 33 year old just minted MLB Baseball Owner, a 15 year old baseball pitcher, seven (7) Daytona 500's, including the one responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt, George Gipp, Enzo Ferrari, Joe Gordon, Manny Mota, Pat Bowlen, Andy Moog, Gary Reasons (PBS guest), Alexander Mogiliny, James J Corbett, Harry Caray, and Eddie Mathews.

In this episode of Sports the NEMO Way we bring the DH to the table for discussion.

J.P. Hoornstra compares this winter to the winter of 2014-15 (2:24), and the deluge of prospects that followed then and are coming now (3:25). After a quick recap of the Dodgers' Top 30 prospects of 2020 (7:54), J.P. brings on Shawn Green (10:02) to discuss Scott Rolen (12:04) clearing the Hall of Fame bar by 11 votes. Which player on the ballot would Shawn induct before Rolen and Harold Baines (15:51), and what was he like as a rookie teammate? (16:40) JP and Shawn hype the WBC (18:00) before Shawn breaks up Team USA (23:38). Lastly, Shawn recalls getting heckled by a high school student during the Dodgers' off-season community caravan tour (27:38). Links: Dodgers' top 30 prospects of 2020 2015 Dodgers vs. 2014 DodgersHall of Fame voting results (sorry, Andre Ethier) 2023 WBC schedule J.P.'s stories on OCRegister.com

Joe Posnanski - Baseball Hall of Fame – Celebrated sportswriter Joe Posnanski has been named Sportswriter of the year by 5 different organizations. He's widely recognized as the best sportswriter of his generation. Joe returns to the Break It Down Show to discuss the Baseball Hall of Fame, the 2022 class inductees and BBWAA ballot. Joe's Substack is the best source for his thoughts on the hall of fame. We're sure Pete will find new caverns in the incredible mind of Joe. One of the things we learned in our episode featuring Rob Neyer and Dan McLaughlin was that there's some uncertainty on who might be a hall of famer now that Harold Baines is inducted. Pete A Turner is a huge fan of Harold...but we all agree the line is different following his induction. Please support the Break It Down Show by doing a monthly subscription to the show  All of the money you invest goes directly to supporting the show!   For the  of this episode head to  Haiku Our Joe Posnanski We love digging through his mind Hall of Fame expert ​Similar episodes:  -   -   -  Join us in supporting Save the Brave as we battle PTSD.  Executive Producer/Host: Pete A Turner  Producer: Damjan Gjorgjiev  Writer: Dragan Petrovski  The Break It Down Show is your favorite best, new podcast, featuring 5 episodes a week with great interviews highlighting world-class guests from a wide array of shows.

PASSED BALL SHOW #71 3/14/2013 Part 1 WITH RANDY MARSHALL AND CALVIN PICKERING; I open up by suggesting the Mets get OF Brennan Boesch, who has since signed with the Yankees. Former Mets, Tigers and Rockies minor league LHP Randy Marshall calls in to talk about his issues breaking into the big leagues and why he left the game so soon. Former Orioles, Reds, Red Sox and Royals 1B Calvin Pickering joins the program to talk about being blocked from the Orioles 1B/ DH spot by Will Clark, Rafael Palmeiro and Harold Baines and being the 3rd player from the Island of St Thomas to play in the majors

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Bernie visits with Fangraphs senior writer Jay Jaffe. Jay talks about how the Cards' signing of Willson Contreras was a great move that has been overshadowed by a lot of the big money mega deals. Jay also points out that luck typically plays a role in veterans' committee selections to the Hall of Fame as Harold Baines was aided with a large White Sox presence and even 2023 electee Fred McGriff was able to benefit from having Greg Maddux and others he had connections to on the committee.

The start of the season has us feeling like the White Sox have baseball's most-feared lineup. George Ofman draws upon a long history of covering Tony La Russa as we chat about how the White Sox manager will attack other teams in 2022. We're also talking about Harold Baines getting a new heart and kidney, as one of our hosts can relate. Find out why he says Baines stayed true to form throughout the process. Brought to you by Family Waterproofing Solutions! Listen. Subscribe. Share. Call 708-459-8406 and leave your comments and questions for the next episode! Chris Lanuti and his buddy Ed Siebert sit at his 9-foot homemade oak bar in a basement on the South Side of Chicago to discuss their favorite team - The Chicago White Sox. Subscribe now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, EVERYWHERE podcasts can be found and ALWAYS at SoxInTheBasement.com!

On Episode 171 of Above Replacement Radio, Chris & Daniel were joined by former ESPN & Sports Illustrated baseball writer and current professor of Communications/Sports Journalism at Springfield College, Aimee Crawford. They talked about Aimee's reaction to Harold Baines being traded 33 years ago, her experience watching the 2005 White Sox, her sitting in on an interview with Tony Gwynn and Stan Musial, more Stan Musial stories, and the state of the current White Sox.

The White Sox lost another key member of their 1983 team with the passing of second baseman Julio Cruz, the catalyst for the Winning Ugly White Sox. Chuck Garfien remembers and celebrates Cruz with 1983 Rookie of the Year Ron Kittle who shares stories about their times together as White Sox teammates. You'll also hear memories from Harold Baines, Ozzie Guillen, Tony La Russa, and Jerry Reinsdorf.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Chuck visits with Nancy Faust to talk about her 41-year career as White Sox organist. Sitting at her home organ, she plays some of her most popular songs, telling behind-the-scenes stories about how they came to life. Among the topics: how she invented the walkup song and turned “Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Them Goodbye” into a global sports anthem, Harold Baines honoring her in his Hall of Fame speech, her deep connection with White Sox fans, songs to end the lockout and more.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Few players were traded as often, especially at the trade deadline as newly minted Hall of Famer Harold Baines, who was sent from the White Sox to the Rangers for Sammy Sosa and others 23 years ago this week in what future President George W Bush called the biggest mistake of his life. That's a lot to lay on a guy who was pretty dang good for a really long time, Mike and Bill discovered, as they looked back at his illustrious career.

Mark Hilinski discusses the life & legacy of his son Tyler, a former Washington St. QB who died by suicide in 2018 and the work of the Hilinski's Hope Foundation. Plus, Screen Stars, Heat Check and the Hall of Fame is not to be missed.Our GuestMark and Kym Hilinski have three sons, their middle-child's name was Tyler. He wore #3 as a  starter at Washington State where he engineered one of the greatest comebacks in the history in program history against Boise State in 2017. Just 4 months after that memorable win, Tyler took his own life  - though he never showed signs of depression or struggle. That same year Mark & Kym founded The Hilinski's Hope Foundation, a non-profit organization formed to promote mental health awareness and education for student-athletes. Last week, was Hilinski's Hope's inaugural College Football Mental Health Week, which culminated in the first 3DAY, where players raised three fingers in the third quarter in tribute to Tyler and to bring awareness to The Foundation's mission to educate, advocate, and eliminate the stigma associated with mental illness. 4:05 – “Thanks for having me, you guys.”Mark Hilinski shares his thoughts on the life and legacy of his son Tyler, the work of the Hilinski's Hope Foundation and what more can be done to eliminate the stigma surrounding mental health. 14:39 – “Rudy, we've got a packed number 3 show.”Football Honorable Mentions go to Joe Montana, Carson Palmer and Daryle Lamonica. The Contenders are Jan Stenerud, Bronko Nagurski, Mark Moseley and Tony Canadeo.20:10 – “Basketball's loaded with really, really good #3's.”Basketball Sentimental Favorites include John Starks, Damon Stoudamire, Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf, Steve Francis and Tracy McGrady. Honorable Mentions are Ben Wallace, Stephon Marbury, Shareef Abdur-Rahim and Rex Chapman and Contenders are Dennis Johnson, Dwyane Wade and Allen Iverson.28:16 – “It is a Who's Who.”Baseball jumps next with Sentimental Favorite Ken Griffey, Jr. Honorable Mentions go to Dale Murphy, Alan Trammell, Harold Baines, Bill Terry, Earl Averill and Alex Rodriguez. Contenders are Harmon Killebrew, Jimmie Foxx and Babe Ruth.36:43 – “Let's dive into hockey just real quick .”Hockey players of note are Pierre Pilote, Butch Bouchard, Marcel Pronovost & Harry Howell. Also, a NASCAR shout out to Dale Earnhardt “All I wanna do is race, Daddy.”38:27 – “We got 15 dudes . . .”Screen Stars wearing #3 on the silver screen:Jackie Earle Haley as Kelly Leak in Bad News Bears (1976)Michael Caine as Capt. John Colby in Victory (1981)Stan Shaw as Esquire Joe Callaway in Bingo Long (1976) Jimmy Stewart as George Bailey in It's A Wonderful Life (1946)Mike Vitar as Benny “The Jet” Rodriguez in The Sandlot (1993)Rhys Ifans as Nigel Gruff in The Replacements (2000)John Goodman as Babe Ruth in The Babe (1992)Liev Schreiber as Ross Rhea in Goon (2011)Paul Newman (car) as Frank Capua in Winning (1969)Barry Pepper (car) as Dale Earnhardt in 3 (2004) John Candy as Spike Nolan in Brewster's Millions (1985)Joe Massingill as Bo Gentry in Trouble with the Curve (2012) – Scott Baio as Buff Saunders in The Boy Who Drank Too Much (1980)Shad Moss as Calvin Cambridge in Like Mike (2002)Robert Downey, Jr as Leo Wiggins in Johnny Be Good (1988)44:48 – “From the sublime to the ridiculous.”Derrick Rose AwardDale EarnhardtDrazen PetrovicBob GassoffHall of ShameSebastian Telfair35:33 – “Number ten is home cookin'.”Awesome Heat Check list for #3:Russell WilsonChris PaulBryce HarperAnthony DavisStephen Gostows

In 1982 the Chicago White Sox finished in third place of the American League Western division six games behind the California Angels. What followed the next season was somewhere between complete shock and utter fantasy as the team from the south side of Chicago blew everybody else out of the water by going 99-63, to take the division by an almost unheard of 20 games. The Pale Hose as they are referred to by their most ardent fans featured both Cy Young award winner Lamar Hoyt, who won two dozen games during that campaign and rookie of the year and local boy made great Ron Kittle. Kitty belted 35 dingers including two on the roof at old Comiskey as well as registering 100 RBI which seemed like a nice round number at the time. Only four and a half seasons into his first job as big league manager a career that would eventually see him enshrined in Cooperstown, Hall of Famer Tony LaRussa forged a club so fine that the experts thought they would tatter the American League East Champion Baltimore Orioles and after that tear down the Phillies in the World Series. Fellow Hall of Famer‘s Carlton Fisk and Harold Baines lead the way for that club drenched in talent that featured hitters like Tom Paciorek, and The Bull Greg Luzinski, heros to the largest Polish community in America in the greatest sports city in the world. It was very easy to cheer for the Law brothers Rudy and Vance, no relation. Richard Dotson went 22-7 that season to give the White Sox the top two finishers in the race for the Cy Young. Dot, Hoyt, and Floyd Banister spent that special season taking turns getting wins and we're almost untouchable. My favorite player of the team Brett Burns and Jerry Koosman filled out the most impressive five man rotation in baseball. Disappointingly their bats fell silent starting with game two of the ALCS, and a base running gaffe in the 7th inning of game four sealed their ominous fate. Still 37 years later that team who's play by play man might've had the wildest personality of anybody in that clubhouse deserved their own special show in a season that over 2 million fans watched live. Spend the next 90 minutes with the brand spanking new Games People Play Media Network and long-term Chicago sports radio fixture Harry Teinowitz as he welcomes that announcer Hawk Harrelson, the A.L. Rookie of the Year Ron Kittle, and the affable happy hitting 1st baseman, Tom Paciorek. Hopefully the 2020 version of the White Sox will give fans some thing to celebrate for decades to come . In the meantime as Hawk would say, “Sit back and strap it on!” This is, “Still Ugly After All These Years!”

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In the latest episode we cover everything from the XFL to MLB's latest cheating scandal to Pat's love for Harold Baines. Then we break down our winners and losers for the mlb offseason, talk about the most overrated players in each sport, and fight hard to stay awake while Pat analyzes his 50 favorite prospects.

On the Sox on the Beach trip with Apple Vacations, Hall of Famer Harold Baines and Ozzie Guillen sit down with WGN’s Kevin Powell and Lauren Lapka poolside at Iberostar Selection Cancun in Cancun, Mexico. Harold and Ozzie talk about the excitement building around the 2020 White Sox season, spending time with fans and MLB […]

11-21-2019 Passed Ball Show. John opens up the program by talking about the workout held November 16th by Colin Kaepernick for NFL teams. Kaepernick deserves the right to work, the right to seek employment, and in no way deserves to be blackballed from the National Football League. However, the decisions made to change the destination of the workout add murky details to an already confusion set of events. Does Colin Kaepernick want to play in the NFL again? Did he hold the workout more for his post-workout speech? Does he want to be a quarterback in the NFL or does he prefer to be a Martyr? There is a reason to be concerned over Kaepernick's interest at this point. Has he come to grips with his football career being over at this point? The other aspect is the obvious need for good quarterbacks in the NFL and the fact that Kaepernick is clearly as good as some that are in the league and making starts. Names like TJ Yates, Tom Savage, Chase Daniel, Luke Falk, and others have started games in the NFL over the past couple of seasons. Colin can clearly perform at the levels of the above named, even being three years removed from playing in the NFL. John then talks about the Baseball Hall of Fame and comparisons people like to do when it comes to cases being made for those not in. It is weak to make a case that a non- Hall of Famer is more worthy than Harold Baines, but it is worse when some are trying to discredit the credentials of Tony Gwynn. Gwynn will never be known as a power hitter and because of that, numbers like OPS+, WRC, and similar stats inflated by power numbers make him look less of the player he was. Gwynn was a throwback player- would have stood out even in the deadball era and hit for a higher career batting average than anybody since Ted Williams. Those comparisons are looking kind of lazy. Finally, there is no reason to make a case for another Hall of Fame baseball player until Barry Bonds is inducted. Bonds belongs in based off the merits of his accomplishments. He is the only player in baseball history with over 600 doubles and 700 home runs. Bonds is one of four players with a career on base percentage of over .440 and a career slugging percentage of over .600. The other names are Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, and Ted Williams. No other player in baseball has over 500 home runs and over 500 stolen bases. How about the fact that he was one of three players with over 1000 more walks than strikeouts? The other players are Williams and Eddie Collins. In the history of a sport that has its share of cheats, some of whom are in the Hall of Fame, why discredit a player who did more in their career than anybody else in this lifetime?

The 1990's was the end of the Cleveland Municipal Stadium era and the beginning of the time at Jacob's Field. The Tribe won American League titles in 1995 and 1997 and played in the World Series those two years. In 1996, 1998 and 1999 the team made the playoffs as well. It was a glorious time for Tribe fans. Exciting players from the 1990's include: Rod Nichols, Charles Nagy, Al Nipper, Alex Cole, Keith Hernandez, Chris James, Dion James, Candy Maldonado, Mitch Webster, Beau Allred, Carlos Baerga, Sandy Alomar, Jr., Glenallen Hill, Wayne Kirby, Jim Thome, Mark Whiten, Jose Mesa, Eric Plunk, Mark Lewis, Paul Sorrento, Mark Clark, Alvaro Espinoza, Sam Horn, Lance Parrish, Manny Ramirez, Jeff Treadway, Dennis Martinez, Jack Morris, Eddie Murray, Omar Vizquel, Herbert Perry, Paul Assenmacher, Orel Hershiser, Chad Ogea, Eric Plunk, Brian Giles, Tony Pena, Billy Ripken, Dave Winfield, Julian Tavarez, Einar Diaz, Jeff Kent, Kevin Seitzer, Bartolo Colon, Mike Jackson, Jaret Wright, Tony Fernandez, David Justice, Bip Roberts, Matt Williams, Dave Burba, Dwight Gooden, Russell Branyan, Jolbert Cabrera, Cecil Fielder, Travis Fryman, Richie Sexson, Ricardo Rincon, Roberto Alomar, Harold Baines, Dave Roberts, Wil Cordero and many more!

The 2020 Baseball Hall of Fame election is upon us.  The ballot was officially released this week to voting members of the Baseball Writers Association of America. Results will be announced in January, but the arguments have just begun. Can anyone justify not making Derek Jeter unanimous? Is it time to stop penalizing Larry Walker for playing in Colorado?  Can we appreciated a career like Alfonso Soriano's without electing him to the Hall? And what does last year’s election of Harold Baines mean moving forward? All of these questions and more are answered on the latest episode of the “30 With Murti” podcast featuring guest Tyler Kepner, The New York Times baseball columnist and best-selling author of the book “K: A History of Baseball in Ten Pitches.”

With possible White Sox Target JD Martinez staying in Boston host Herb Lawrence offers alternatives to fill the designated hitter position. Also, exciting news about the direction of the podcast and realistic White Sox acquisitions for this off-season. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

With possible White Sox Target JD Martinez staying in Boston host Herb Lawrence offers alternatives to fill the designated hitter position. Also, exciting news about the direction of the podcast and realistic White Sox acquisitions for this off-season. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After we get through some audio funkiness, we sit down with one of our TriviaCon ProAm "pros," Jeremy Cahnmann. We chat with Jeremy and quiz him on baseball, Poison and Sandra Bullock.

On Sunday August 11th, the Chicago White Sox honored newly inducted Hall Of Famer Harold Baines. The ceremony took place prior to the game between the White Sox and Oakland Athletics. Below is Harold’s speech to which he gave to the fans who were in attendance.

On Harold Baines Day at the ballpark, Chuck Garfien speaks with Ozzie Guillen, Tony La Russa and Greg Walker about the newly inducted Hall of Famer. Guillen talks about what made Baines such a special player and person (6:00) and why he cried when he went to Cooperstown for Baines (9:10), La Russa explains why Baines was a Hall of Fame player (12:50) Walker talks about Harold's consistency, his Hall of Fame credentials and what made him a great DH (15:00).

"Tiers are Here!": Jonathan plays and discusses Harold Baines and Lee Smith's HOF speeches. Then he's joined by Jesse Rogers from San Francisco.

The Orioles' crafty lefty Jonathan Means interrupts the Sox' momentum with a 3-hitter. Josh fills you in on a blah ballgame, on the David Price injury, on Alex Cora's White House comments, and stumps for Dwight Evans at the expense of Harold Baines.

Its a Hall of Fame-worthy edition of the podcast! ...OK, at least as worthy Harold Baines!Host Ryan Andrews discusses the results of the 2019 Hall of Fame vote, and in particular, what it means that Roy Halladay was elected in his first year on the ballot. Andrews touches on what the late great Blue Jays pitcher meant to the organization and to baseball, and what his inclusion means for other players. Mariano Rivera, Edgar Martinez and Mike Mussina also were voted in, and get some time as well.The second segment sees Andrews touch on players with Blue Jays links or Canadian content. The cases for Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Larry Walker, Omar Vizquel, Scott Rolen, Jeff Kent, and Todd Helton are mentioned, while Michael Young bids farewell to the ballot.The final segment features interviews from Blue Jays Winter Fest in Halifax as Ryan Borucki and Danny Jansen give a few minutes of their time to the East Coast.Follow the podcast on Twitter @LockedOnJays and follow the host @NeoAC18!Subscribe on Google Play and iTunes!This episode is sponsored by Locked on NBA and the Locked On Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sean and Ryan try and find the silver-lining on the Cubs walking away from the Winter Meetings without any major signings and look at some of the other names we like besides Bryce Harper. Later, we discuss the idea of Manny Ramirez as the Cubs new bench coach and also narrow down the teams we think should or are still in on Bryce Harper. And finally, we take a look at the newest Baseball Hall of Fame elects in Lee Smith and Harold Baines.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

-Kenon Carter from Bless You Boys.com & Tigers Minor League Tracker joins the show.-Chris recaps his encounter with future Tigers. -Tigers recent signings-Tony La Russa's defense of Harold Baines getting into the Hall of Fame and we are not sure why he

Jonah Keri searches for a bigger boat with Fangraphs writer Jay Jaffe on his Hall of Fame evaluation system JAWS; the curious case of Harold Baines's Hall of Fame election; why Larry Walker absodamnlutely deserves his own Hall of Fame plaque; what to make of George Steinbrenner's legacy in baseball; Hot Stove news out of L.A. and Philadelphia, and much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On today's show: 10 Things from the Weekend! 1. Grizz 1-1 Weekend (13:00) 2. Tigers beat UAB, get Vols this weekend (30:33) 3. Dallas Cowboys (42:45) 4. NFL Playoff Picture (1:00:08) 5. Kenny Dillingham to Auburn (1:04:58) 6. Harold Baines (1:13:20) 7. Trevor Ariza to the Lakers (1:18:02) 8. Josh Johnson (1:19:45) 9. Darrell Henderson 1st Team All-American (1:23:45) 10. Vikings vs Seahawks & Grizz vs Nuggets (1:27:05) Miss the Livestream? Watch today's full show at: https://youtu.be/FMvFkXjzm2U

Matthew Coller joins the show to start the hour, talking more on the Vikings and Seahawks. Mackey then poses the question; Are there any regrets on the Vikings signing Kirk Cousins? Later, the guys Wrap with Reusse, and Patrick is fired up over Harold Baines going into the Baseball Hall of Fame.

This week Alex & Keev decided to rank the names of every team in the NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL for no particular reason. Later Alex cries about Harold Baines making the baseball Hall of Fame and warns Keev of the danger of relying on a Vikings kicker. At the end of the episode Keev tries […] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices