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Megalo Man: Scottie has some insight on the Corey Feldman / Michael Jackson 9/11 beef that resulted in Megalo Man.Pat Patterson: Scottie gets called out on his friendship with noted predator Pat Patterson. Also showing ScoCorey's Hog: Scottie gives us confirmation on Corey having a hanger. Also Corey's Twitter addressing the haters.THE BEAR!, FUCK YOU WATCH THIS!, WHO'S ON THE LINE!?, CHET MARTIN!, JACKIE GLEASON!, MICHAEL JACKSON!, TRANFORMING!, WACKJOB!, COSPLAY!, JUGGALO!, SHMUCKALOVETZ!, DICK DONNER!, MAGNIFICENT!, MAJESTIC!, RUNAWAY!, ILLEGITIMATE CHILD!, JOE JACKSON!, SAHARA CHARLESTON!, LAS VEGAS!, MEGALO MAN!, 9-11!, WORLD TRADE CENTER!, NEW YORK!, LEGEND!, PRICELESS!, CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP!, WWF!, WRESTLING!, WRESTLEMANIA!, RODDY PIPER!, PAT PATERSON!, PREDATOR!, SEXUAL!, THEY LIVE!, PERSONAL EXPERIENCE!, APOLOGY!, DR DREW!, HOLLYWOOD DEMONS!, BEEF!, EDITING!, TRAUMATIZING!, STATUTORY RAPE!, 1984!, SEXT TO THIS DAY!, HIGH SCHOOL SWEETHEART!, MUSTACHE!, COMMERCIAL!, YOGI BERRA!, BRAD PITT!, LEO DICAPRIO!, BRAD PITT!, HANGER!, HAMMER!, 10 INCH!, PACKING!, BALLS THAT CLANK!, THE GOY!, COUSIN PAULIE!, COREY'S TWITTER!, HATERS!You can find the videos from this episode at our Discord RIGHT HERE!
Damon gets to talk to Doug about his family, musical adventures, Joe Jackson, Peter Erskine, and so much more. There's also segments like gig alerts, music news, and others.
The couple's view of life is full of life and flush with fun topics from tennis to Tony's, travel to reunions, fashion to film, and much more. in the spotlight Spielberg, Joe Jackson, Newton KS., Folly Theater, "Airport", Alexander Zverev, Steve Carell, Steve Coogan, and others. Join the fun with us!
MUSICAL PERFORMANCES HAD US DANCING, SINGING, & CRYING! Michael Full Movie Reaction Watch Along: / thereelrejects Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at www.SHOPIFY.com/rejects Michael Movie 2026 Reaction & Review! Tara and Jackie sit down for the Michael Jackson biopic reaction and share their first impressions on Jaafar Jackson as Michael Jackson, the King of Pop biopic, and whether this Michael movie captures the music, heartbreak, legacy, and magic of one of the most iconic entertainers of all time. This Michael Jackson Movie reaction includes some of the biggest Michael Jackson and Jackson 5 moments, including “Billie Jean,” “Thriller,” “Bad,” “I Want You Back,” “Human Nature,” “Wanna Be Startin' Somethin',” “Blame It on the Boogie,” “I'll Be There,” “Working Day and Night,” “Singin' in the Rain,” and “Gary, Indiana.” From the Jackson 5 beginnings to the Motown 25 moonwalk, the Thriller music video recreation, the Bad era, and the massive live concert sequences, Tara and Jackie react to the best scenes in the Michael Jackson 2026 film. In this Michael 2026 movie review, we talk about Jaafar Jackson's singing voice in the Michael biopic, Juliano Valdi as young Michael Jackson, Colman Domingo as Joe Jackson, Nia Long as Katherine Jackson, Miles Teller as John Branca, and Antoine Fuqua's direction of the Michael Jackson film. We also discuss how accurate the Michael Jackson movie feels, the emotional family drama, Michael's childhood, the Jackson 5 rise, the pressure of fame, the heartbreak behind the music, and the Michael Jackson movie ending and legacy breakdown. Jaafar Jackson absolutely blew us away, and by the end, we were dancing, crying, getting chills, and wanting more. Comment below with your favorite Michael Jackson song, your thoughts on the Michael movie, and whether you think Jaafar Jackson captured the King of Pop! Follow Tara Erickson: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@TaraErickson Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/taraerickson/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/thetaraerickson Follow Jackie Bonsignore: https://www.instagram.com/jackiebonsignore/ Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad: Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM: FB: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Scary Movie is back with a sixth instalment! But with so many divisive reviews and negative reception from critics and fans, what did the latest entry get right and oh so wrong? Find out in our group review.Follow the Complete Guide to Horror Movies podcast on our social channels below.↪ TikTok↪ Twitter↪ Facebook↪ Instagram↪ Subscribe to our YouTube channel↪ Shop our Store!↪ Tip us $5↪ Linktree↪ LetterboxdScary Movie (colloquially known as Scary Movie 6) is a 2026 American parody film directed by Michael Tiddes and written by Marlon Wayans, Shawn Wayans, Keenen Ivory Wayans, Craig Wayans, and Rick Alvarez.It is the sixth installment in the Scary Movie film series, following Scary Movie 5 (2013), and has been referred to as the spiritual sequel to the first two films.It stars Marlon, Shawn, Anna Faris, and Regina Hall. The plot follows Cindy Campbell and her friends Ray Wilkins and siblings Shorty and Brenda Meeks reunited when the same masked killer from the first film resurfaces.A sixth Scary Movie film was announced in 2024 and later that same year, it was revealed to have the involvement of the Wayans family for the first time since 2001.Scary Movie was released in the United States by Paramount Pictures on June 5, 2026. It received negative reviews from critics.Cast- Marlon Wayans as Shorty Meeks- Wayans also portrays Joe Jackson in an in-film trailer, Tiffany Wilson from White Chicks (2004), and Count Brolock in a parody of Nosferatu (2024)- Shawn Wayans as Ray Wilkins- Anna Faris as Cindy Campbell- Regina Hall as Brenda Meeks- Olivia Rose Keegan as Sara Campbell, Cindy's older daughter- Cameron Scott Roberts as Jack, Sara's boyfriend- Savannah Lee Nassif as Tuesday Campbell, Cindy's younger daughter- Dave Sheridan as Doofy Gilmore / Ghostface (voice)- Cheri Oteri as Gail Hailstorm- Gregg Wayans as Brad Meeks, Brenda's son- Ruby Snowber as Elle, Brad's girlfriend- Sydney Park as Dei Meeks, Brenda's nonbinary child- Lochlyn Munro as Greg Phillippe- Benny Zielke as Jess, Greg's transgender son- Kim Wayans as Nurse Ratchett- Chris Elliott as Shorthand- Jon Abrahams as Bobby Prinze- Kenan Thompson as "Jermaine"- Carmen Electra as a bartenderAdditionally, Anthony Anderson, Kai Cenat, Teyana Taylor, and Shaquille - O'Neal cameo as themselves.Chapters00:00:00 Introduction & Movie Setup00:02:04 First Reactions to Scary Movie 600:05:00 Nostalgia Overload Criticism00:08:14 Marketing and Offensive Humor00:10:26 Shorty, Ray, and Character Focus00:12:34 Best Jokes and Opening Scene00:15:56 Favorite Laugh-Out-Loud Moments00:18:46 More Highlights and Cameos00:22:46 Political Humor Discussion00:27:38 Cindy and Brenda Underused00:30:48 Deleted Scenes and Trailers00:34:52 Character Writing Problems00:36:36 New Cast and Streaming Parodies00:39:30 Ghostface, Scream, and References00:43:45 Franchise Ranking Debate00:47:20 Comparing to Earlier Scary Movies00:51:05 Slapstick Comedy and Acting Issues00:55:10 Horror Parodies That Worked00:59:20 What Should Have Been Cut01:03:15 Strengths of the New Sequel01:07:10 Final Scores and Rankings01:12:45 Would We Watch It Again?01:17:20 Final Verdicts and Closing Thoughts01:21:08 Outro and Sign-Off
Is Michael a great biopic, or does it work because Michael Jackson's music is simply impossible to resist?We review the new Michael Jackson biopic, discussing Jaafar Jackson's performance, the film's massive audience response, Michael's legacy, the controversy around his life, and the major moments the movie glosses over.Plus, we end with a Michael Jackson song battle — from Thriller and Billie Jean to Beat It, Smooth Criminal, They Don't Care About Us and more.Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/V0bjX1WgtxU⏱️ TIMESTAMPS0:34 Welcome to Cognitive Recalibration0:48 Introducing Michael and why this episode needed a discussion1:11 Box-office success and the scale of Michael Jackson fandom2:34 Music biopics, Bohemian Rhapsody, and billion-dollar potential3:35 Audience demographics and Gen Z discovering Michael Jackson5:57 Critics vs audiences: why the scores are so different7:00 Family involvement, controversy, and what the movie avoids8:36 Release delays, sequel plans, and the film's long box-office legs10:05 Michael Jackson trivia, the moonwalk, and cultural mythology10:29 Initial thoughts: enjoyable experience, flawed movie12:37 Emotional connection to Michael's music and why it still resonates13:49 The ending problem and why the movie feels like Part One14:45 Word of mouth, social media reactions, and renewed popularity16:47 Box-office competition and why Michael has longer legs17:11 Jaafar Jackson, the child actor, and Colman Domingo's performances18:56 Spoiler discussion begins: Joe Jackson and Michael's insecurities20:50 The media, Michael's changing appearance, and vitiligo22:49 The movie's biggest flaw: not enough focus on musical genius23:38 Missing the evolution of Michael's voice, style, and creative identity24:43 Quincy Jones, Off the Wall, Thriller, Bad, and missed opportunities27:08 Thriller, Bad, music videos, and Michael as a short-film pioneer28:46 Why the movie still works as an experience despite its flaws30:00 Michael as an underdog and Joe Jackson's intimidating presence31:51 Childhood trauma, loneliness, Bubbles, and the toy store scene32:28 The Pepsi commercial, pain medication, and the start of his decline33:39 Why the second movie will be harder to make34:21 Michael's estate, masters, streaming money, and artist ownership36:55 Relationships, children, siblings, and the drama the film skips38:48 Michael's legacy living through the music39:10 Why the sequel should explore albums, tours, and fame more deeply40:27 Was Michael Jackson more famous than Taylor Swift?41:34 Final thoughts on performances and the film overall42:03 Michael Jackson song battle begins: Thriller vs everything43:20 Billie Jean takes the crown44:49 Human Nature, Stranger in Moscow, and underrated favourites46:12 Dirty Diana, PYT, Black or White, and Michael's deep discography47:02 Favourite Michael Jackson songs and streaming numbers48:30 Michael's voice, vocal style, and why his songs are hard to sing49:42 Paul McCartney, Beatles rights, and Michael's music portfolio51:22 Neverland and the stories still left for the sequel52:15 Closing thoughts on Michael and who should watch it53:39 Podcast movie draft talk: Michael, Moana, Minions, and Dune54:53 Quick thoughts on Mandalorian & Grogu and upcoming episodes55:27 Final sign-offIf you want to support this podcast so we can keep producing our content for free consider the following options:Buy us a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/CRecalibrationIf you wish to contact us to ask a question or give us some feedback, please do so via the channels below:Facebook Page: Cognitive RecalibrationInstagram: cognitiverecalibrationTwitter: @CRecalibrationTikTok: @cogrecal#MichaelMovie #MichaelJackson #MichaelJacksonBiopic #MichaelReview #KingOfPop #JaafarJacksonSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/cognitiverecalibration. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Damon welcomes back Felipe to talk about Trio Libre, Supermambo, touring with Joe Jackson, and so much more! There's also segments like gig alerts, music news, and others.
PBD's crew breaks down the smash‑hit Michael Jackson biopic, from nephew Jaafar Jackson's casting and Joe Jackson's brutal role to MJ's eerie “they're going to kill me” warnings and why fans still see him as a one‑of‑one global phenomenon.
Ever wondered why we obsess over the lives of iconic stars like Michael Jackson? Let's dive deep into the mystery.
Santi Campos vuelve a escena con un disco muy personal, íntimo más que intimista, con el sentimiento de la pérdida de su padre, como una oda de agradecimiento y de reflexión sobre la razón de la existencia. Atrás quedan los Amigos Imaginarios, el modelo de The Band y otras preferencias. ¿Por qué se llama “Áprie” su nuevo disco? DISCO 1 PABLO MORENO Gravedad (LA JAULA 2026) SALUDO A SANTI CAMPOS DISCO 2 JOE JACKSON Fabulous People (HOPE & FURY 2026) DISCO 3 ALBERTO BALLESTEROS Si veo que me animo’ (2026) DISCO 4 SARIFE La ultimate vez (2026) DISCO 5 SANTERO Y LOS MUCHACHOS Nada (TODAS LAS LUCES 2026) DISCO 6 SANTI CAMPOS Àprie (ÀPRIE 2026) DISCO 7 SANTI CAMPOS Actores Secundarios (ÀPRIE 2026) DISCO 8 SANTI CAMPOS Gigantes Melancólicos (ÀPRIE 2026) DISCO 9 THE NEW PORNOGRAPHERS Calligraphy (THE FORMER SITE OF - 2026)Escuchar audio
**Micheal Vs Joe 2 (Who's Bad)** — The debate continues. On this episode of the Ern and Iso Podcast, the dynamic duo revisit one of the biggest conversations surrounding the Jackson family legacy: was Joe Jackson the villain history painted him to be… or was Michael Jackson's rise to superstardom built on sacrifices that affected everyone around him?Ern and Iso break down the complicated relationship between father and son, the pressure of greatness, family responsibility, fame, discipline, and what happens when talent outgrows the machine that created it. The conversation dives into the latest discussions around the Michael Jackson biopic, fan reactions, generational parenting, celebrity trauma, and whether success changes the way we judge people's actions.Was Joe creating monsters or preparing legends?Did Michael deserve freedom from the family business?And when history tells the story… who really ends up being “bad”?All this and more on another deep-dive episode from the world's best podcast.If you're new here, we ask you to like, rate, review, share, subscribe, and comment — because we do comment back. Small things to show you appreciate the big things we do.Available on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Pandora & everywhere podcasts are streamed.#MichaelJackson #JoeJackson #Jackson5 #Podcast #ErnAndIso #HipHopCulture #MusicDebate #MJBiopic #EntertainmentNews #fyp #ernandiso4president
She said no. You got down on one knee, opened the box, asked the question, and she said no. Not "I need time." Not "maybe later." She said no. So now what? In Episode 542, the crew tackles one of the most vulnerable questions a man can face: what do you do when your feelings are telling you one thing, but the data is telling you something completely different? A brother writes in after proposing to his girlfriend of several years, only to hear her say she's not ready. He's confused, hurt, and stuck between staying or walking away. ET, Karl, CJ, and Jemal break down why feelings will lie to you every single time, and why the data never does. ET gets raw about the moment Dede told him she didn't feel safe, not physically, but emotionally and mentally. How his ego wanted to defend what he'd built, but the data told him something else entirely. He shares how he got off the road for four months, gave her predictability, and watched their marriage transform because he stopped going with his feelings and started going with the facts. Karl brings the "what by when" accountability framework that keeps you honest. Jemal drops the vision about getting in front of your future, how he started his daughters' 529 plans when they were toddlers, and why Yani just graduated from Michigan State debt free. CJ tells the Slim Thug story, the moment he reached out to a Houston legend to help an artist he was mentoring, got ghosted, and realized the most important lesson of his career: stop asking people to do for you what you need to learn how to do yourself. They also break down why Joe Jackson energy isn't just for parenting, it's for every area of life where you're trying to build something real. From book covers to corporate stages to marriage, this episode will challenge you to stop letting your feelings run your life and start letting the data lead. If you've ever been rejected, corrected, or redirected and didn't know what to do next, this conversation is for you. Because your feelings will tell you to quit. The data will tell you to adjust. And the difference between the two is the difference between staying stuck and leveling up. Timestamps:
www.patreon.com/theconspiracypodcastBefore the moonwalk. Before the glove. Before Neverland, before the tabloids, before the world decided it knew exactly who Michael Jackson was — there was a kid in Gary, Indiana who wasn't allowed to touch his father's guitar.Most people know the legend. Few know the price.Michael Jackson didn't have a childhood. He had rehearsals. He had a belt across the chair and a father who saw dollar signs where other dads saw sons. By the time he was eight years old he was performing in nightclubs, watching the adult world at its worst, and being told that was normal. It wasn't normal. None of it was.And yet — out of all of that — came Thriller. The moonwalk. Four consecutive number one singles before he was twelve. A catalog worth billions. A chimp in a matching outfit eating dinner at the table.But also Neverland. Also the allegations. Also a death that still doesn't sit right.This week we start at the beginning — Gary, Indiana, Joe Jackson, the Apollo Theater, Motown, Quincy Jones, and the private world Michael built when he finally had enough money to build whatever he wanted. We get into the stuff most people don't know, the stuff that actually explains everything, and we set the table for what's coming in Part 2.And trust us — Part 2 gets dark.Timestamps:00:00 — Intro, Patreon shoutouts & gas prices somehow leading to Michael Jackson04:00 — Why we're covering MJ now & our bias going in (we love him, sue us)07:00 — Gary, Indiana: the two-bedroom house, 11 people, and Joe Jackson11:00 — Joe discovers the boys' talent & the rehearsals begin — belt on the chair13:00 — Michael describes the abuse & why the sight of his father made him physically ill15:00 — "Big Nose" — the nickname that quietly explains everything about his face16:00 — The Jackson 5 is born & Michael joins at six years old18:00 — Winning the Apollo, Gladys Knight, Berry Gordy & the Motown signing19:00 — Diana Ross "presents" them — the marketing ploy that worked perfectly20:00 — Four consecutive number ones straight out the gate, Jacksonmania hits22:00 — Growing up backstage in nightclubs — what Michael saw at age 7 and 823:00 — His Grammy speech: "My childhood was taken away from me"25:00 — Was it worth it? The guys debate childhood sacrifice vs. greatness32:00 — Michael meets Diana Ross at nine years old — "my mother, sister, and lover"34:00 — Leaving Motown, The Wiz disaster, and meeting Quincy Jones35:00 — Off the Wall, one Grammy, and a quiet promise to himself36:00 — Thriller drops — and why nobody actually knows how many copies it sold39:00 — The Motown 25 moonwalk: 47 million viewers and a call from Fred Astaire41:00 — Bad, five consecutive number ones, and the Beatles catalog for $47 million43:00 — Neverland Ranch: the train, the zoo, the carousel, and why he built it48:00 — Bubbles the chimp, matching outfits, and the loneliness hiding behind it all54:00 — The Godiva candy story & why he never stopped giving it away56:00 — Vitiligo confirmed: what the autopsy actually showed58:00 — The nose, the face, and erasing the thing his father ridiculed59:00 — What's coming in Part 2: the lawsuits, the acquittal, the death, and the dark stuff
If you weren't alive to know, or old enough to comprehend, how massively popular Michael Jackson was in the 80s, just picture the biggest music star today and times it by five, at least. This week's movie, “Michael”, tries to give you an idea about how big he was, but you really had to be there to know. This movie shines a bright light on the turbulent childhood the Jackson boys, particularly Michael, went through at the hands of their self-absorbed, tyrannical father, Joe Jackson. Joe created the Jackson 5, with Michael as the lead singer, and got them into the sights of Motown. That primarily got Michael made as the next megastar by Berry Gordy at Motown and Quincy Jones. Still in the background was Michael's familial struggle with his father trying to rule his life with an iron fist and knowing his grip is slipping. Michael fights to be his own man and achieve his own dreams all while being the biggest music star of all time. Is it worth going to see this biopic at the theater? Check out Movies Merica to find out! “Michael” stars Jaafar Jackson, Colman Domingo, Nia Long, Miles Teller, Juliano Valdi, Liv Symone, Laura Harrier, Larenz Tate, John Rabe, KeiLyn Durrel Jones, Kendrick Sampson, Michael Andrew Baker and Zach Kenney. Support the showFeel free to reach out to me via:@MoviesMerica on Twitter @moviesmerica on InstagramMovies Merica on Facebook
This week on The Metro, Rev. Jeff Ivins brings you the following artists for your time warp back to the 1980s: A Flock Of Seagulls, Social Distortion, Rave-Ups, Paul Hardcastle, Donna Summer, Lena Lovich, Joe Jackson, Klark Kent, Baltimora, Frankie Goes To Hollywood, Real Life, Bananarama, Yazoo, then finishes off with Adam & The Ants.
You don't need another sermon. You don't need another scripture. You don't need another devotional. You already know enough truth to be in heaven right now. The problem isn't knowledge. It's that you're not doing what you already know. And that's why you're stuck. In this message, Pastor Eric Thomas delivers one of the most direct, most convicting words of the year: a message about the real reason your life hasn't changed. It's not more information. It's accountability. And until you stop looking for more truth and start living the truth you already have, nothing will shift. Using the story of Nathan and David, the analogy of the 8-foot rim, and raw testimony about tithing on his business, Pastor ET breaks down the three levels of accountability that will take your life to the next level: Self. Home. Community. In that order. Most people skip self and go straight to trying to fix everyone else. That's why it never works. You can't save a drowning person when you're drowning too. You can't hold someone accountable when you haven't dealt with the plank in your own eye. In this message you'll discover: → Why your next level isn't coming from more truth — it's coming from accountability → The three levels of accountability: Self, Home, Community (and why order matters) → Why most Christians know the Word but aren't doing the Word → How to be your own Joe Jackson and Joe Clark so no one else has to → The difference between butter knife relationships and iron sharpening iron → Why you can't dunk on an 8-foot rim and expect 10-foot results → What it really means to examine yourself and test yourself (2 Corinthians 13:5) → The hospital analogy: why the church isn't full of just sick people → Why God had to tell Pastor ET to tithe on his business, not just his personal income
The Rickey Smiley Morning Show kicks off with a packed dose of entertainment and news, led by Drake shaking up the music world with a surprise triple album release—“Iceman,” “Habibti,” and“Maid of Honour”—a rare move that instantly dominated social media and marked his first major drop following his high-profile rap feud with Kendrick Lamar. Meanwhile, a resurfaced controversy is stirring conversation as a woman claiming to be tied to Joe Jackson opens up about their alleged past relationship, even suggesting his wife knew about it, reigniting debate around the Jackson family legacy. Actress Nia Long is also trending after revealing she’s open to “sneaky links” and casual dating while prioritizing her peace and independence following a long-term relationship, reflecting a broader shift in modern dating norms. On the sports side, the NFL has officially unveiled its 2026 season schedule, highlighted by a highly anticipated Super Bowl rematch between the Seattle Seahawks and New England Patriots to open the season—a rare and headline-grabbing kickoff that sets the tone for an exciting year. Website: https://www.urban1podcasts.com/rickey-smiley-morning-show See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
A resurfaced controversy is stirring conversation as a woman claiming to be tied to Joe Jackson opens up about their alleged past relationship, even suggesting his wife knew about it, reigniting debate around the Jackson family legacy. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Most people say they want the truth, but the moment it shows up, they call the messenger a villain. This episode picks up where the Joe Jackson conversation left off and turns the mirror around. The real question isn't whether Joe was too hard on Michael. It's why we keep demonizing every coach, mentor, and visionary with the gift to push us toward what we say we want. DISCLAIMER: Our focus in this episode is not the Jackson family, and we are not endorsing or excusing abuse of any kind. Our focus is what happens when people push us because they see we are capable of more, and get demonized for it. The Jackson story is a starting point, not the subject.The guys dig into why visionaries always get villainized, why our relationship with trauma is broken, and the difference between feedback and validation. Karl shares the "Carlos" moment that changed how he receives criticism. ET tells the Mr. Gene swim instructor story that put this entire philosophy to the test with his own son. If you've ever fired the person trying to save you, this one is for you. In this episode: Why every visionary, from Moses to Joe Jackson, gets demonized during the process Why you can't receive help unless it comes wrapped exactly the way you want it The difference between looking for feedback and looking for validation How ET almost fired the swim instructor who taught his entire family to swim How to narrate your own story without playing the victim CHAPTERS: Chapters 00:00:00 Opening: Karl OS - The New Operating System 00:01:39 Welcome and Team Introductions: The Michael Jackson Movie Discussion 00:03:24 Did Michael Jackson Play the Victim His Whole Life? 00:04:15 Joe Jackson: Visionary or Villain? 00:23:06 The Gary, Indiana Reality Check 00:25:01 Feelings vs. Goals: Why Most People Stay Stuck 00:28:35 The Mr. Jean Swimming Lesson Story 00:37:12 Stop Looking for Validation, Start Looking for Feedback 00:44:20 Karl's Transformation: From Soft to Strategic 00:43:17 Next Level Speakers Conference Announcement 01:01:02 Kalm Down with Karl: Stop Living Your Life Like a Question 01:01:50 Mal's Millionaire Moment: Your Pension is Dead 01:04:02 The Secret Project Reveal: What Karl and Mal Are Building KALM DOWN WITH KARL: Stop living your life like a question and live like the answer that you are. God saw a problem on the planet and created you as the solution. Stop walking around uncertain. You are the answer. MAL'S MILLIONAIRE MOMENT: One pension is too close to no pension. Jemal breaks down how the average career span matches the average mortgage span, meaning you can have a property fully paid off by the time you retire from your day job. That's your second pension. He also shares how he turned his daughter's graduation gift into a down payment on her first property at 22. RATE AND REVIEW: If this episode hit you, take 30 seconds to rate and review on Apple Podcasts. It's the biggest way you help us reach the next person who needs to hear this. JOIN THE S2S PATREON: Early access, live recordings, behind-the-scenes content, Q&A, and ET speech streams. https://www.patreon.com/c/S2SPodcast120 PRE-ORDER "WE IS GREATER THAN ME" by Eric Thomas and CJ Quinney: https://www.amazon.com/We-Greater-Than-Me-Highest-ebook/dp/B0GPGXXD5D NEXT LEVEL SPEAKERS CONFERENCE: June 5-7, 2026 in Atlanta, GA. Featuring ET, CJ, Jemal, Karl, Inky Johnson, Jeremy Anderson, and Marco Kino. Early bird tickets active now. www.nextlevelspeakersconference.com APOC VIRTUAL CHURCH: Saturdays 11am EST on YouTube. www.apocministry.org WATCH THE VIDEO VERSION: https://www.youtube.com/@S2SPodcastChannel?sub_confirmation=1 CONNECT WITH S2S: Instagram: @s2spodcast ABOUT THE PODCAST: The Secret to Success Podcast is hosted by Eric Thomas, CJ Quinney, Jemal King, and Karl "The Bajan Sensation" Phillips. The mission: show the authentic side of four men building businesses, marriages, wealth, and legacies in real time. No hype, no filters, just real conversations to help you believe in your own potential.
Hello friends! Artists and founders of non-alcohol tequila Society Del Sol, Gary and Kaysie Dorsey are my guests for episode 1567! As visual artists they have built up a resume that includes the Waterloo Sparkling Water and Deep Eddy Vodka branding, album covers for Joe Jackson, Christopher Cross, Suzanna Choffel and many more. See their past artwork HERE. After getting sober, they decided to start their own non-alcoholic spirit company Society Del Sol which becomes available to the public this summer. Go to societydelsol.com for more info. We have a great conversation about their journeys and accomplishments as artists, coming with the idea of Society Del Sol, getting sober, their faith, raising children, losing friends over politics, A.I. and the future of art, enjoying life, and much more. I had a great time getting to know Gary and Kaysie. I'm sure you will too. Let's get down! Find Society Del Sol on Instagram and Facebook Find Gary's artwork at houseofdorsey.com Follow us on Instagram, TikTok, X, Facebook, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you pod. Go to johnny-goudie.com for all things Johnny. If you feel so inclined. Venmo: venmo.com/John-Goudie-1 Paypal: paypal.me/johnnygoudie
This week's Mixtape Rewind takes us back to season 2 when Matt and Sam put together a mix centered around songs that ask questions. We kick off with The Who asking the most direct opener imaginable, then slide into Third Eye Blind heartbreak, Snoop Dogg identity, and a newer Snoop cut that feels like confidence distilled. Along the way we hit War's endlessly singable “Why Can't We Be Friends,” A Tribe Called Quest proving some songs never age, and Joe Jackson's sharp little spiral of “Is She Really Going Out With Him.” The questions get bigger and weirder from there, with Pixies capturing that drifting, upside-down feeling that somehow still fits modern life.The back half turns reflective without losing the fun. We talk about how arrangement can change meaning in “What's So Funny 'Bout Peace, Love, And Understanding,” why “What's My Age Again” lands harder the older you get, and how the Bee Gees remind everyone they're more than disco. We close with Michael Jackson's “Will You Be There,” plus a heavy dose of 90s soundtrack nostalgia and the memories that come packaged with the music. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5oIgRs82dIJ9EURkgtkweB?si=e0e1135f2a224bf0Who Are You? by The WhoHow's It Going To Be? by Third Eye BlindWho Am I? by Snoop DoggWhat U Talkin' Bout? by Snoop DoggWhy Can't We Be Friends? by WarCan I Kick It? by A Tribe Called QuestIs She Really Going Out With Him? by Joe JacksonWhere Is My Mind? by Pixies(What's So Funny ‘Bout) Peace Love and Understanding? by Elvis Costello & The AttractionsWhat's My Age Again? by blink-182How Deep Is Your Love? by Bee GeesWill You Be There? by Michael JacksonGo to My.SuperAwesomeMix.com and start using our new app on any device - mobile or laptop. Copy and paste a link to your playlist then turn it into an old school mixtape in minutes! Support the showVisit us at https://www.superawesomemix.com to learn more about our app, our merchandise, our cards, and more!
Jackie is fresh off celebrating herself for Mother's Day and rips overly sentimental holiday social media posts, continues her delayed review of Summer House, and discovers the traits she shares with Joe Jackson.Thanks for supporting my sponsors:Brodo: Get 20% off your first subscription order and use code BITCHBIBLE for an additional $10 off at www.Brodo.com/BITCHBIBLEKindred Bravely: Get 20% off your first order at www.KindredBravely.com/JACKIELittle Spoon: Use code BIBLE to get 30% off your first online order at www.LittleSpoon.com/BIBLE Quince: Get free shipping and 365-day returns at www.Quince.com/BITCHBIBLENutrafol: For a limited time, use code BIBLE to get $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping at www.Nutrafol.comPique: Unlock 10% off for life at www.Piquelife.com/bibleSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
On this edition of Time Machine Tuesday, Bomani Jones is joined by DJ Wally Sparks to break down the Michael Jackson movie and why it doesn't fully capture how massive Mike really was. They get into why Michael Jackson resonated with young audiences better than almost any superstar ever, how his fame translated across the world, and what made the Off the Wall, Thriller, and Bad era so hard to put on screen. They also talk about Joe Jackson, the movie's framing of Mike as too passive, and why the ending should've hit harder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Wallstreet Trapper and Jose go ALL IN on the new Michael movie during Trappin Tuesday. From Michael Jackson's rise to fame, Joe Jackson's role, the missing character development, Prince comparisons, and the emotional impact of Mike's legacy… this conversation gets REAL fast.
MICHEAL VS JOE JACKSON | Was Michael the Selfish One?For years the world painted Joe Jackson as the villain and Michael Jackson as the victim… but what if the story isn't that simple?In this episode of the Ern & Iso Podcast, the duo flips the narrative and asks the uncomfortable question nobody wants to ask:Was Michael Jackson the bad guy for wanting to leave the family behind?While Michael's talent clearly separated him from the rest, Joe Jackson focused on building something bigger than one person — a family legacy. Ern & Iso break down whether Joe's strict mentality came from greed… or survival. Was he protecting the family by keeping the Jackson machine together while Michael wanted freedom and individuality?The conversation dives deep into:* Did Joe Jackson create greatness or trauma?* Was Michael wrong for wanting to go solo?* Did the rest of the Jackson family depend on Michael too much?* Is selfishness necessary for greatness?* Did Michael owe his family loyalty because they built the dream together?* Was Joe thinking about the FAMILY while Michael focused on HIMSELF?* Can you blame Joe for pushing Michael when the results changed music forever?The duo also speaks on the pressure of being “the chosen one” in a family, the emotional cost of greatness, and whether history unfairly turned Joe Jackson into a monster while ignoring the sacrifices he made to pull his family out of poverty.This isn't a hate piece on Michael Jackson — it's a real conversation about family, pressure, talent, sacrifice, and what happens when one person becomes bigger than everybody else around them.
There's been a lot of renewed conversation about the Jackson family—especially around Joe Jackson as a father.But in this episode of The Secret Formula of Femininity, Dr. Nicole Monteiro explores a different perspective:Katherine Jackson as a mother—and what we may be missing in how we understand women like her.This is not a conversation about blame or judgment.It's a deeper look at femininity, survival, and emotional strength within complex family dynamics.In this episode, we explore:• Why softness is often misunderstood as weakness• How femininity can exist within pressure, constraint, and limited options• The difference between emotional safety and physical provision in families• How survival environments shape parenting styles• Why it's important to understand context without excusing harm• The hidden emotional labor many women carry in families• What we can learn about strength, identity, and femininity from this conversationThis episode invites a more nuanced understanding of motherhood, strength, and the many ways women hold families together—often in ways that aren't immediately visible.Because sometimes…softness is not the absence of strength—it's the form strength takes under pressure.
Send us Fan MailCan a father be harsh and still produce disciplined children?In this episode, Sauce Mackenzie dives into the controversial conversation around Joe Jackson, strict parenting, Black fatherhood, discipline, accountability, and whether older generations had stronger structure and respect.Topics include:• strict parenting vs abuse• respect in Black communities• fatherhood and protection• discipline in schools and homes• masculinity and responsibility• modern youth culture• generational parenting differencesPLUS:
A few weeks ago, Captain Content threw down a challenge to find great new music, and Kevin didn't just step up—he delivered in spades. Typically, we recognize all of the amazing recorded output of the current year at the end of the year; however, there are just too many great releases this year to wait until December. We're not even halfway through the year yet, and we already have all of these great tunes! Who was that said rock n' roll was dead??? What is it we do here at InObscuria? Every show, Kevin opens the crypt to exhume and dissect from his personal collection: an artist, album, or grouping of tunes from the broad spectrum of rock, punk, and metal. This week, we look at an amazing year of releases for the world of rock n' punk n' metal. We hope we turn you onto something new! Songs this week include: Starcrazy - “Prove Myself” from Prove Myself - Single (2026) The Gems - “Stars” from Year Of The Snake (2026) Bakko - “Do It For Me” from Another Sign Of The Decline (2026) Sugar - “Long Live Love” from Long Live Love - Single (2026) Tigercub - “Fall In Fall Out” from Nets To Catch The Wind (2026) Jane And The Killer Queens - “Dumb Blonde” from Dumb Blonde - Single (2026) Metal Church- “Deep Cover Shakedown” from Dead To Rights (2026) Elder - “Through Zero” from Through Zero (2026) Please subscribe everywhere that you listen to podcasts! Visit us: https://inobscuria.com/ https://www.facebook.com/InObscuria https://x.com/inobscuria https://www.instagram.com/inobscuria/ Buy cool stuff with our logo on it: InObscuria Store If you'd like to check out Kevin's band THE SWEAR, take a listen on all streaming services or pick up a digital copy of their latest release here: https://theswear.bandcamp.com/ If you want to hear Robert and Kevin's band from the late 90s – early 00s BIG JACK PNEUMATIC, check it out here: https://bigjackpnuematic.bandcamp.com/ Check out Robert's amazing fire sculptures and metal workings here: http://flamewerx.com/
Your soft coaching is killing their future. And you think you're being kind. In Episode 540, ET, CJ, Karl, and Jemal pull up to the table after watching the Michael Jackson movie and what follows is one of the most honest, uncomfortable, and necessary conversations this crew has ever had. About Joe Jackson. About tough love. About why we've been Catherine-ing people when we should have been Joe Jackson-ing them. And why the people closest to greatness are usually the ones being held back by feelings, comfort, and lies we call love. CJ gets cavity searched while ET watches in the distance… Then the crew dives into the Michael Jackson movie and what most people missed. Joe Jackson got them out of Gary, Indiana. From the steel mill to the charts. Six kids. Multiple number ones. And we've been dogging him out for decades without asking the hard question: would there even be a Michael Jackson without Joe Jackson? ET breaks down why he's been doing it wrong as a leader. Why caring about people's feelings has actually been holding them back. Why his mom kicked him out at 16 and it was the greatest gift she ever gave him. This episode will make you rethink every soft conversation you've had. Every time you coddled someone instead of challenging them. Every time you let someone stay comfortable when you knew they were capable of more. Because real love isn't making people feel good. Real love is helping them become who God called them to be. Timestamps: Chapters 00:00:00 Opening: The Airport Security Story - When ET Left CJ Behind 00:01:25 Welcome and Team Introductions: The Pastor's License 00:02:25 Fair or Foul: ET Goes Through Security While CJ Gets Searched 00:10:58 The Michael Jackson Movie: We Owe Joe Jackson an Apology 00:12:28 From Gary Indiana to Greatness: Joe Jackson's Vision 00:18:00 The Catherine vs Joe Jackson Debate: Love or Lies? 00:21:34 Stop Catherine-ing People: Why Feelings Are Holding You Back 00:19:37 The Candy Seller Revelation: When Compassion Becomes a Lie 00:25:25 Real Leadership Requires Losing People: The Mom Story 00:34:00 Joe Jackson Them: Holding People Accountable to Their Genius 00:40:12 The Real Estate Lesson: When Mom Made ET Buy the Right House 00:29:16 The Jalen and Jada Story: Taking Ownership of Your Part 00:37:45 I Don't Have Any More Care Left: The Superpower of Not Caring 00:28:30 The Trauma of Being Broke vs The Trauma of Success 00:44:52 Next Level Speakers Conference Announcement: June 5-7 Atlanta 00:45:58 Why AI Can't Replace Joe Jackson: You Still Need Humans 00:46:50 Closing: Patreon Meetup and Final Thoughts on Tough Love
We are back with Episode 212 of We're All Set Podcast and it is all over the map in the best way possible
This week's topics: • James Brown Son-In-Law death • Hulk Hogan's money bring in • School of Hard Knocks interview skills • Millionaire mindset • What men think of • How the difference in games have changed men's minds • Making money streaming • Did Boxing make KSI & Logan Paul blow up or the other way round • McDonalds and Michael Jackson are inevitable • 'Michael' movie review • The merits of Joe Jackson's methods • Michael Jackson's influence on business as well as music • Golders Green 'antisemitic terrorism' Stabbing • Iran proxy war • Has mental health instability increased over the years • Voting over not voting • The King's speech during American state visit • #StavrosSays : School of Hard Knocks [https://www.youtube.com/@theschoolofhardknocks] Connect with us at & send your questions & comments to: #ESNpod so we can find your comments www.esnpodcast.com www.facebook.com/ESNpodcasts www.twitter.com/ESNpodcast www.instagram.com/ESNpodcast @esnpodcast on all other social media esnpodcast@gmail.com It's important to subscribe, rate and review us on your apple products. You can do that here... www.bit.ly/esnitunes
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We'd love to hear from you! Click here to send us a text. On this episode of The New Wave Music Podcast, Steve and Don dive deep into two major new releases, going track by track through Hope and Fury from Joe Jackson and the long-awaited Trixies from Squeeze, an album over 50 years in the making. From sharp songwriting to the signature sounds that defined a generation, they take a closer look at these albums, highlighting the standout moments and how they fit into each artist's legacy. In music news, there's a wave of fresh releases and exciting returns, including new music from Haircut 100, Soft Cell, Duran Duran, The Alarm, and Kon Kan, along with Doublespeak, a brand-new collaboration between Vince Clarke and Neil Arthur that brings a fresh synth-driven twist to classic tracks. Joe Jackson: http://joejackson.com/Squeeze: https://www.squeezeofficial.com/Support the show
Episode 77 we touch on The Greatness of Michael & Joe Jackson and The Antione Fuqua directed Box Office Smash "Michael", we also go in-depth in regards to the coversation about what The West Coast and Compton California Contributed to Hip-Hop Music
“Michael,” the new Michael Jackson biopic, knows what it's doing. That's clear from the opening shot: high-water pants and white socks pushed down to a pair of black penny loafers. It's appealing to a very specific version of our memories of Michael Jackson. The version some of us prefer to hold onto. But in doing so, it avoids the truth. Our qualms with the King of Pop? Forget about that. Be horrified by Joe Jackson's abusive parenting. Where's Janet Jackson and Diana Ross? Nevermind them. Look, it's Bubbles the chimp! The child molestation allegations? Eh, let's just play another No. 1 hit instead! Besides, moviegoers are not complaining. “Michael” crushed box office records. With the best opening weekend for a biopic ever, it's a hit. None of this comes as a shock to Wesley Morris, but he's left with some complicated feelings. His pal, the film curator Eric Hynes, shares these feelings, too. Together, they review the movie and wrestle with the Michael Jackson biopic that could have been. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
In this summer episode of Brett's Mancave, I celebrate my daughter turning 4 years old and take a moment to reflect on what being a father really means to me. I give her the love and praise she deserves while also getting into a deeper conversation inspired by the new Michael movie (spoiler alert included). I break down the difference between dads who aren't there at all and fathers like Joe Jackson—who were present but abusive, pushing their kids to succeed at the cost of their well-being. This episode is me being real about the kind of father I choose to be: present, supportive, and someone who builds up instead of breaking down. It's about learning from both sides and making sure I raise my daughter with love, not fear.
First up, what if a movie about a serial killer was actually a meet-cute? A new trailer has dropped for a movie with a premise so unhinged we had to stop scrolling, imagine a beloved horror franchise reimagined as a high-stakes New York rom-com starring an iconic leading lady. Laura has all the details and we are obsessed.Plus, one of the most anticipated biopics in history has finally hit the box office, but the reaction has been anything but unified. We unpack why the critics and fans are at war and discuss the difficult reality of separating the art from the artist.And finally, in an extensive new interview, Taylor Swift is officially squashing those rumours of a high-profile industry feud and she has a message for the ‘detectives’ in her fandom. From secret watermarks to her songwriting secrets, we’re looking into the steel boundary she’s just drawn around her personal life.Watch Taylor Swift's full New York Times interview here. 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Send us a voice message or email us at thespill@mamamia.com.au and we’ll get back to you ASAP! Executive Producer: Monisha Iswaran Audio & Video Producer: Michael Kean Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast. From Mama Mia. Welcome to the Spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brednick and I'm nam And on the show today. The new Michael Jackson movie has been dominating the box office, but reviews are very split between critics and fans, and you and I have some very strong thoughts out this that we're going to bring to the podcast, so strap in for that. Plus, Taylor sit has given a very lengthy interview to The New York Times, which is always interesting because one that girl does not need to do interviews. She's doing the most right now she always So we're going to go through the biggest reveals from the interview and what the headlines are saying, because there's lots to unpacked there. But first, I want to tell you about a new movie trailer that came out just late last night. I do believe when I was scrolling in bed ooh yeah. 00:49Speaker 2 Sexy, Like is it like a movie you think I'd enjoy? 00:52Speaker 1 I think you and I will be front and center at the cinema when this comes out, because we love a rom com. This is a new rom com and it's what I've been asking for. It's rom com with like super talented Academy Award winning leads in the movie. Wow, but there's I just want to just the premise kind of made me stop for a second because I hadn't heard about this movie until I saw the trailer, and then I thought, hmm, so the premise is, and tell me if you're into this, the premise is, what if the movie The Purge was a rom com? Do you know what the Purge is? Have you seen The Purge and all the Purge sequels? 01:29Speaker 2 Not the sequels? 01:30Speaker 1 Yeah, stopped one. You're like, I've purged enough? Yeah, that's enough Purge. I try to see all the Purge, like the first Purge, how the Purge started, Let's purchase some more. Those aren't the official titles, but get Purge, Get Purged, Purge and get out of here all the sequels. So if anyone who hasn't seen The Purge, I think I know. Actually what trailer you're talking about? Yeah, I think I saw it. Yeah, it's been bopping around. So can I say the movie isn't officially associated with the Purge? I just made that connection when I saw it. I know what I mean. This is a rom com Urge. It's purgees I'm not against, but I'm I so want to know if someone sat down to watch The Purge and was like, what if this was a meet cute? Which, again, if anyone hasn't seen The Purge, the premise of the film is that in order to stop crime, there's one night of the year in America where the film is set, where all crime is legal for a certain period of time, So no. 02:22Speaker 3 Crime is legal and any other day of the year except for this one night, and it's all crime. So it's a lot of murder, yeah, a lot of breaking and entry, yeah, exactly, very scary exactly. 02:32Speaker 1 So it's like, you want to kill your neighbor, there's a night to do that. You want to stab a X or your current partner, there's a night to do that. You want to launder money, that's fine, and so that's and like it's like, so you either go out and you try and be part of the Purge and like kill people and commit crime, or you stay at home. This new movie One Night Only takes that premise and says, what if there was only one night? It's at New York City because that's where all good rom comms take place. What if there was only one night of the year that pre marital sex was legal for single people. 03:04Speaker 2 By the Catholic Church. 03:06Speaker 1 Oh yeah, the popes are producer. He got together with the Perch team and they're like, let's crack out something beautiful. Let's do a collab. A colass that's so dark. So the premise is that, yeah, you know what, unless you're married, you can't hook up with anyone, no sex of any any kind, except for one day. What would you do? Became a free time. They're gonna have Oh my god, so many hot you take up crocheting and watercolor. Yes, I love that. I'm gonna say every in the background of this movie, you did look super like put together and well rested. I'm like, that's because the nights are free. So the idea is like one night of the year you can go out and hook up with whoever you want. And a lot of people use that in the movie is like their night. Some people just use it as a night for wild sex, which fair enough, and the rest some other people use as a night to like find their soulate because I want to hook up. Well, they get married, so that's the thing. So starring in this movie is Monica Barbara. Do you know who that is? I know who she is. Yeah, she was in that movie. We loved that Timothy Shalla main movie. No, that's me. 04:11Speaker 3 No, but I know her from what was that TV show that I recommended for a week in watch that? 04:17Speaker 1 I don't know, let's start Arnold schwartz Nager. That's a you recommendation and like it was just all action flubah. I can't help you out there, Fuba, I think of Fuber. Yeah, she'snt that. I can't remembe all the incredible work this woman has done. That's what you picked out. 04:32Speaker 2 Yeah, and that's the best thing she's been in. 04:34Speaker 1 Because she was also on top gun Maverick she yees who the girl, the one girl, the one girl. 04:40Speaker 3 Oh and she was like the one who like the only one who made like who had a problem with her playing? 04:44Speaker 1 Yeah, because Tom Cruise is like it has to be the girl. Oh my god, I had not put that together to bear the girl who goes down? Yeah, exactly because I can't play Wow, Tom cruiseher hook up with the Purge producers. 04:55Speaker 2 He'd love this. 04:57Speaker 1 And also a young man by the name of cal who American accent in this. Yes, he does so who some people call mister Juwa Liipa because they're getting married. But also he was in Eternity, which was my favorite movie of last year. 05:11Speaker 3 Which was also an interesting rom com with like a twist and the big take. 05:15Speaker 1 I love that Callum Turner, who everyone's like, no, no, he's a serious British actor. He's now like, you know what I'm gonna do is lead rom coms? 05:22Speaker 3 Yes, and Dully has to do that before he becomes the next Bond for like ten years. 05:27Speaker 1 Yeah, and then he can't do anything else. Also, the cast this movie is so interesting, so my Hawk and Julia Fox is in it and z Way by the way, which is so. But also Molly Ringwold, Oh do you know who that is? Did we talk about her? 05:39Speaker 2 No, I'm thinking of someone else. 05:40Speaker 1 No. Molly Ringwold in the I Believe the eighties was like the rom com like Pretty in Pink, all those kind of rom coms. She was like the leading lady. I'm trying to put it so she's like, no, no, if you saw her red hair, you would know her. She was in every iconic sixteen candles Pretty in Pink. 06:00Speaker 2 Oh yeah, oh my god. 06:03Speaker 1 But she's in this, Yeah, because it's important if you're bringing wrong cooms back that the original rom com girl is in there. Oh my god, she's so she was in the Breakfast Club. Yes, and the Breakfast Club like I name all her iconic a. So basically it's Callum Turner and Monica Babaro and they are bout two singles out on this one nine and they meet, but then a series events prevents them as the movie goes on, from hooking up and having sex. But yeah, yeah, I mean if I had a dollar. But also it's like the clock is ticking. So I was watching this trail like Giving Cinderella. I was watching this trail like a thriller. I was like, what's gonna happen next that's gonna prevent them from and when do they start dying? Yeah? Yeah, exactly. How funny for the end like Seaway comes in or someone Molly Ringworld comes in like an at it's actually in the Purge universe. It's like an easter eg Purge movie where you didn't realize it was part of it. It just gotta be thinking though, like what other horror movies do we need to be wrong comms? Like does someone reimagine? Does someone reimagine? Halloween? Is like, he was just a girl who murdered his sister. She was a babysitter. Oh my god, Halloween night. They come together and the mask comes off. A love story Halloween is there something like or scream. It's like he's calling on the phone, but he's actually calling to tell you he likes you, and that's why he has to disguise his voice. Oh my god. It's like there's all these horror movies like, oh. 07:23Speaker 3 Like The Grudge, but it's actually like a merge of like under the Tuscan Sun. She goes to Japan to find this life and build this new house. 07:34Speaker 1 That's just like a little boy living she has to look after. Sorry, what do I want to watch that movie? Should we write movies? I think we should write movies. She's going past the Grudge House and it's so dark and terrified. She's like, just like I need to rebuild this and then she falls in love with. 07:53Speaker 3 Trying to get rid of it, like everyone keeps dying, and she's like, I need to rebuild this house. 07:57Speaker 1 And it's just a montage of her redoing the house, and then she falls in love with the Grudge Ghost, what's beautiful? I like this well, I love this new thing. We keep saying rom coms need to come back. That's so true, and I think this is how we bring them back. We merged them with horror movies. Let's start a fan fiction. But like for rom com slash horror. Absolutely so one night only. I'm excited. 08:18Speaker 2 It's going to be so good. 08:21Speaker 3 So there is a film that's currently in cinemas right now and we have been seeing a lot of mixed reviews on It's called Michael. I mean, if you listen to the intro, you know what movie I. 08:33Speaker 1 Did give that away. 08:33Speaker 3 It's called Michael, and it's a biography on the life of Michael Jackson. So it covers his rise to fame as being the biggest pop star in history. The film covers his career from the nineteen sixties, starting off with the Jackson five to the late nineteen eighties where he ends on his bad tour like album bad. It wasn't a bad tour. It was a pretty good tour from what I've heard it. 08:57Speaker 1 How do you keepel like clarifying, Yeah, a bad tour and like bad bad. 09:03Speaker 3 Oh man, they're the song The song bad. It has a huge cast. So Michael is played by Jaffa Jackson, who was also Michael's nephew. His dad, Joe Jackson is played by colemen Domingo, Mike mis isn't it, Miles Teller, isn't it? It's a massive, massive cast. We personally haven't seen the film. From what I've heard by people who went to the screening, a lot of people loved this film. 09:27Speaker 1 Yeah, I've been seeing like so many people come to me and tell me about movies they've seen which I love. And so many people have said to me that they loved this movie that they were like, like, you know, crying, they were overcome with emotion. I've seen people posting that they're going to go see it again two times, three times to experience in the cinema. And that's also what the box office is telling us, like it's gone crazy well at the box office. It's become like the highest grossing musical bio pick of all time. Even when the trailer came out over a year ago. It's shattered records for a musical biopic trailer and became one of the most watched trailers in Studio's history. For Lionsgate, which is huge because they've released so many blockbusters. Like the fans are telling us that they're obsessed and like they're willing to pay for three movie tickets, which is crazy at a time when like it's hard to get people into a cinema. Yeah. 10:13Speaker 3 One, and from what I've heard what the actual film is about. It's labeled as a biography, but it is a very fun film. Like I heard, the music is amazing, like Jaffar's portrayal of Michael Jackson is amazing. The hard parts I'm assuming that people are crying at is it does depict the emotional and physical abuse he went as a child by his father that was played by but. 10:38Speaker 1 I think crying from like happiness is what I've seen the music because they love the music and seeing us. 10:44Speaker 3 Yeah, it was also sanctioned by the Michael Jackson estate. 10:49Speaker 1 So the Michael Jackson estate paid for a lot of it, right, well, they paid for the reshoots that had to happen. And then obviously his family is super involved, not just his nephew being in the starring role, but his Michael Jackson son Prince, his executive producer, along with all his brothers. It's only really Paris Jackson, his daughter right that has spoken out against it. 11:08Speaker 3 He has spoken out against it. And also his sister Janet Jackson didn't give the rights to her likeliness in the film either, so her car like there's no Janet Jackson in the film or portrayal of Janet Jackson in the film. 11:20Speaker 1 But what you mentioned. 11:21Speaker 3 Before with the reshoot, so the original script started to be looked through around twenty twenty three, with the film being greenlet in twenty twenty five. Like coming to our screens, it was meant to come to our screens last year, and it's been reported that the original script included a storyline that actually happened in nineteen ninety three. So now this movie finishes in nineteen ninety eight, which is when the tour happened. 11:44Speaker 2 It was actually meant to. 11:45Speaker 3 Continue because included the first child abuse allegations towards Michael Jackson by Jordan Chandler. However, with the settlement that happened in real life, Jackson's estate promised to chan the family that they would not be dramatized them in the events around the allegation. However, the estate didn't tell that to the original filmmakers, So that's why the movie had to be pushed and they had to do all these reshoots that was reported cost around fifty million USD. Yeah, I can imagine, So it was massive, massive, And I think that's also comes with the mixed reviews. So a lot of film and TV critics without including all of the allegations towards Michael Jackson that has happened over years with boys who are now men, the film they're saying is just actually really bad, Like it is a bad portrayal of Michael Jackson, and it just skirts over incidents in his childhood and in his life, and it doesn't go into the nuances that a biography should. 12:43Speaker 1 Yeah, and that's kind of what Paris Jackson was saying in her comments about it, which I thought was so interesting. So the reason that she put up a bunch of statements on her Instagram account is that Coleman Domingo, who's in the film, had given an interview to People magazine and he was saying that Paris had been very supportive and was very warm and was like that she was really on board with the film. And then Paris went on her instrum accounts pretty much as soon as that interview went live, and she said, don't be telling people I was helpful instead of a movie I have zero involvement in, because that is so weird. And then she went on to say that she actually read the first drafts of the script and gave notes about everything, and she says there was so much that was dishonest, didn't sit right, didn't address it. And then she said none of her notes were taken on board, so she moved on with her life. But then she said, it's basically that the film really panders to a very specific section of my dad's fandom. This is what she said that still lives in the fantasy and so they're going to be happy with it. And then she went on to say that these Hollywood buyer picks can be very sugarcoated, and she said the narrative is being controlled, and there's a lot of inaccuracy, and there's a lot of full blow and lies. At the end of the day, doesn't really fly with me. Go enjoy it, do whatever, just leave me out of it. Which out of all the family statements, I was like the fact that his daughter is saying there is full blow and lies in this and it's sugar coated and basically leave me out of it. I tried to stop you. But on the other hand, like Prince, her brother is an executive producer, and also Blanket, Michael Jackson's younger son, who I think goes by b G now, So they were both at the premiere with the wider Jackson family, and I think it was only Janet and Paris who weren't there. So it feels like there's quite a big divide behind the scenes. 14:21Speaker 3 Yeah, And it's like a divide that we've known for years, Like we've known that Janet Jackson in particular has had issue with the Michael Jackson estate and there's always been conflict there. But what was really interesting is that the whole film in itself, when I was reading a lot of the reviews and the critics, it's that it feels like exactly what Paris said in her statement, like it does pander to that particular type of Michael Jackson fan who has just like always been obsessed with him as an artist, with his music, with his documentaries that were about him, and it like reinforced and like the film kind of tells those fans that you're allowed to still love that man, and you shouldn't feel bad for loving him. 15:07Speaker 1 And I also think that's why a lot of people have loved this. It's like they've wanted to gather together in cinemas, in spaces like this where they can stand up together. People have been like dressing like him or dressing in merch they have and going to those like shared spaces to celebrate this music that they love. So I think that that's kind of been a catalyst for people buying multiple tickets. But yeah, it is interesting because with all of the allegations against Michael Jackson, and obviously there's a lot of different layers there because you know, he wasn't found guilty of the allegations, but there were settlements that were made, like as a result of that, there were so many different allegations and it was like there's no way to kind of move around the fact that for a huge chunk of his life and career, that was the dominant story about him. And there's a lot of people who were either the accusers or the accusers families that have really been staunchly kind of speaking about that, and that's kind of like a hard thing to reconcile, going and tort to a movie about someone's life and just cutting off and being like and that's it, and they're just like Michael's. 16:08Speaker 3 Like literally just before the first allegation takes place in nineteen ninety three, the movie just cuts at like nineteen ninety eight, So you're only really living in that initial world. And I think the way they're portraying Michael Jackson is like that's the part of his life. For I guess it's more quote unquote modern fans, Like I would count myself as like a modern fan of his music, Like I only found his music through my parents, so I never really saw that beginning stage of his life with like Jackson five and everything and Thriller. It was more like later in life where I like rediscovered his music. And I think that's like the fan base that they really. 16:45Speaker 1 Want to hone down into. Yeah, that's so as a fan of his music, did you give your tickets away to the premiere because you just felt uncomfortable going knowing that that portion of his life and the accusations and the court cases and everything were left out of it. Yeah. 17:00Speaker 3 I think because we are so lucky to like have this job. I knew a lot about the intricacies of the allegations, and we both do because we reported on it for so many like years. Yeah, and I also knew about like all the nuances within the family as well. And I remember reading about Jenna Jackson and like her issues with the estate as well as Paris Jackson, and like the conflict between her and her brothers as well. And I think all of that just compiled into I don't want to watch something that just celebrates his life because I feel icky about that. 17:36Speaker 1 Yeah, that's interesting. That's why I didn't go as well. And also the twos that's why I didn't see the Michael Jackson musical when it came to Australia. And I was really surprised when I went on clicked on pictures of the opening night and like literally every single person I know was there, Yeah, which is fine, Like I think that was weird, but I was just a bit like, oh, I thought there was a big conversation happening and then everyone was like, no, we just want to go see this by all accounts incredible musical, which is also fine. And the same thing with the movie, Like everyone who's told me that they've gone, I haven't said, like anything along the lines of, oh my gosh, why are you going to that? Like I have I know people have gone to see it twice, and I have no judgment against it. I just felt personally that I felt, Yeah, I also felt a little uncomfortable, and I also knew like it wasn't the kind of movie that we would be doing an in depth review on. Yeah, and that's the case, Like you want to you want to go and watch it. You can't review or speak on something that you haven't seen. So like our conversation here isn't about the quality of the movie, although a lot of like that's the interesting thing is like so many critics are like this is a terrible movie, and fans like this is the greatest movie I've ever seen, and it's like got huge, Like the score on like all the different fan accounts, Rotten Tomatoes and stuff is like it's one of the highest reviewed Bier picks from fans of all time. So no judgment around that. I just I'm just interested of how that part of the conversation just got so completely blocked out. Yeah, because I feel like people who went and saw it and loved it don't want to engage. 18:55Speaker 2 They don't want to. 18:56Speaker 1 Look at it. 18:57Speaker 3 They don't want to acknowledge that it exists, but it very much does exists. Like those five men who brought the allegations against Michael Jackson that happened to them when they were young boys between the ages of seven and twelve are still very much here and yeah, and they're like, I think there's one thing of like not acknowledging an alleged perpetrator and alleged an alleged abuser, but it's so different to overtly celebrate them as well. 19:23Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I find really uncomfortable. And I've got to say, like, I come from a slightly easier place with this because I'm not a like I like a lot of Michael Jackson music. Like there's a lot of like Billy Jean, that's a bop. The way you make me feel as someone who was raised on center stage, that's a great smoth criminal. But yeah, exactly, Yeah, I mean, you know, I think, listening all the Michael Jackson songs and also like you watch videos of him performing in things, you're like, yeah, he is. He was one of the greatest performers of all time. I don't think anyone is disputing that. Yeah, but also it's not my personal like ride or Die music, like what will, So I'm not grappling with it in the same way it was pretty easy for me to say, like, oh, I might just sit out the musical, I might just sit out the movie. I don't really listen to his music unless it's in a movie or something I love and it comes up, and then I'll listen to it. Like, so I kind of recognize that there's it's a lot harder for people who are like, oh, but I'm a die hard fan, but I also know all these terrible accusations and what do I do with that? Because we all have a version of that, whether it's a movie you loved or like I have TV shows that I loved growing up and it came out that terrible accusations against the people who had made them, like Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Yeah, And so you then have to like, that's my version of the Michael Jackson movie where I have to grapple like do I still watch this, do I still talk positively about it? Do I watch other things that have come out? Because there's all these the same thing, unproven accusations, but very strong accusations. Nonetheless. Yeah, And it's that whole thing of how you grapple with what happens when people who are either terrible because it's proven or there's so many allegations it's hard to ignore. What do you do when then they make the art that you love? 20:59Speaker 3 Yeah, one hundred, But I think it's like right to grapple. What I would say is that if you're just completely ignoring it and then just wanting to see the movie, then I think that's wrong. I think it is important to understand like all the parts of a biography that isn't shown, and there's a lot in even Paris. Jackson says that there's a lot that isn't shown, and the fact that there's also like complete lies in it, that's what she alleges. Then you're not actually watching a biography, you're just watching like kind of like I don't know, well, how would you even describe it, Like it's like something that just celebrates someone as. 21:35Speaker 1 Like a fantasy or like a fantasy of the people who but also it's the people from the Michael Jackson state who were like, you know, signing off on the movie controlling it. From my understanding from articles that were in the Hollywood Reporter of funding the reshoots. But also then money comes back into the estate from that, so like when there's a lot of money changing hands and people are profiting off it, like that's when you always have to ask questions because then it's even though I know his family, but it's a business. The Jackson family is a business at the end of the day, more than a family. I think even they would admit to that. And Yeah, the thing that gave me the biggest pause was Paris Jackson's comments, because I was like, if anyone would really know a lot of the ins and outs of this, it's one of his children, his daughter, who was basically saying that she saw the first script, she gave all this feedback. It was ignored. There's people in the movie out there saying that she endorses it. She doesn't. But also then she says, like, if you want to go see it, go see it. Yeah, just leave me out of it. 22:32Speaker 3 But that's so true, Like see it, but see it as a movie, like a film that you just watch at the movies. Don't see it as a biography, because. 22:39Speaker 1 It's almost like it shouldn't have even been a Bypick or anything like that. It's almost like if people wanted to gather together and celebrate the music, which I understand because music is a lot of the time bigger than an artist, especially in this kind of case, like it becomes bigger than them. That it should have just been like a like a concert film. Yeah, like bring all the footage of him performing on these hits together and run it in a cinema so that people can just go in and watch these moments that they love and sing along and where the Michael Jackson themed outfits and do that. But it's almost like they wanted to really control the narrative, but then they ran to the issue whre they're like, oh, we can't actually tell his stories. We've just cut cut. 23:15Speaker 3 And there is an end credit scene that does come up on screen after the movie that says his story continues, So there could be. 23:22Speaker 1 A part two. Well apparently they are exploring a sequel, but I don't know if they can really touch anything because of the legal cases. But there it is Michael's and cinemas now, so I guess people. Yeah, people are really still seeing it. The box office is crazy and no judgment if you did go and see it. Like, I honestly do believe I heard the music's really good, really lot tis the Michael Jackson movie has good music. Good music. Yeah, so no judgment if you didn't see it. But I just think it's interesting to have this conversation and look at both sides of it. So Taylor Swift has given a long video interview to The New York Times, which has been really interesting because she's been slightly out of the limelight recently. She's taken to ground after the release of Life of a show Girl. And well, I mean a lot of that. I guess she's wedding planning, right, Oh yeah, I forgot about that. You're the person in the world sorry said that. Well, apparently the invitations have gone out and I hear get one. Yeah, I think you'll be waiting a while, damn it. But also apparently she's done that trick where, you know, help we get screeners and stuff. It has our name in the background, so if we share it, it's easily traceable back to us. She's done that, apparently the invitations. I don't know if this is true, but it's very clever and it's potentially necessary. So smile. 24:35Speaker 2 I should have done that for my thirtieth birthday. 24:37Speaker 1 You put people's in so she's put people's name in the background. It's too like jetey, like a watermark, but yeah, watermark, so if anyone shares the invitation is easily traceable. But I don't know, because that woman keeps her circle tight, like there's a lot of I believe her when she says, a lot of rumors have never come out, and those stories have never come out because her circle keeps her tight. But also how tired is Travis. He's inviting all his like the whole of the NFL, and they're all bringing like a partner, a plus one or something like that. And she was like, I cannot keep this under out. Maybe only some people got the watermarked invitations and some people to have as aside or gold water. The New York Times asking this exactly what has happened to modern journalism? So you know why they didn't ask it because this was a music interview, and that's why she a music interview. 25:22Speaker 3 They're doing like a series on like thirty of the best music writers in history. 25:26Speaker 1 So it's the thirty greatest living American songwriters. And my title was better snapping Your title was like a watercolor of what the actual title was, and obviously that's why she did it. Because that's the interesting thing about Taylor Swift whenever she does press is that she absolutely does not need to. Like a lot of celebrities, especially now like Doo need That's why these press tours have taken off for movies and albums and TV shows And they're doing stunts and they're eating hot chicken, and they're like getting blindfolded on stage and they're wearing crazy outfits. Is that like there's so much everyone's screaming, even like big movie stuff are screaming for attention for their movies. But taylor'sif is one of the rare celebrities where she doesn't need to do any promo. She did a lot of promo for Life of a Showgirl, but it was more to sort of engage with the audience in a way that she was comfortable with, Like she wanted to sort of share some stories and she was happy. She was chat about engagement. 26:18Speaker 2 And she's like friends with all of the late night hosts. 26:20Speaker 1 Yeah, and she was making bread for people and that was just a fun time. But the thing is she could have just dropped Life of a show Girl and it would have it would have done as well exactly. So that's why when she does an interview, was like, hmm, So this one was centered on songwriting and her career, and I think she thought it was a way too which again very interesting to kind of really talk about about her favorite thing, yeah, which is her process of writing songs. 26:41Speaker 2 This is probably my favorite interview she's done. 26:44Speaker 1 Oh. 26:45Speaker 3 I loved it as well, I think because artists talking about their work is just amazing. 26:49Speaker 1 I would listen to that woman just talk about her songwriting and her process and the way her mind works for hours. It's so interesting to sort of hear how she puts a lyric together, what lyrics from other songwriters she like, kind of admires and files away in her head, how she sort of sees herself, how she looks back on her songs, all those things. So there were a lot of interesting tibits in there. And obviously people have kind of raped through the interview, and all the headlines are the ones that are like anything that might be slightly scandalous or slightly like ooh, who is she talking about? Is what the headlines have come out about. And it's funny because one of the biggest headlines is about her fan habits. I know what you thought about this, but she was talking about, like, you know, her fans loving Easter eggs and hidden moments and things, and she went on to say that she sometimes finds it a little bit weird, and there are corners of her fan base that are going to take things to a really extreme place. And she went on to say there's people out there who are going to do detective work and figure out details and say who is this about? What is this about? And then she said where it gets a little weird for me is that people act like it's a sort of paternity test. They say this song's about this person, and I'm like, that dude didn't write the song. I did. I got. 28:00Speaker 3 I kind of agree with her on that. What I don't agree with her on is when she talks about how her fan base takes things to extreme places, and then she can't control that when they do do that, because I do think you can control that. 28:15Speaker 1 I do, Oh do you think she can she can control it? 28:17Speaker 3 I think she has never told her fans to like back off or to like let go of certain things. I feel like her fans are so intense about her and like the Swifties, I was like, have been so amazing for her career, and it's vice versa, Like I think it is a symbiotic relationship, like even growing. Like my first concert was a Tailor Swift concert. 28:40Speaker 1 I was like twelve when I went. 28:41Speaker 3 To Fairly Yeah, and I love Fearless so much, and like so many of the songs where she wrote when she was like twelve, thirteen, forteen, fifteen, I was like, these are songs, Like she looked in my diary and wrote these songs. 28:56Speaker 1 It's so funny. When she was talking about writing love Story and her parents wouldn't let her go on and date. She was saying this into you and she's like, but he was much older than me, so that's also fair enough. That's just good parenting. And she went in her room and wrote love Story, and I'm like, and I was like, when I went in my room to shut my door, I just cry. Yeah. I was just watching so well around YouTube, just watch a Buffy DVD. I was like, we obviously weren't being productive, No, we were just like feing years. 29:19Speaker 3 But those songs like really had an impact on me. And I can see from that age. If she were to mention or like to allude to who those songs were about before the internet even happened, where we actually had to do detective work. I can imagine me like literally having like a Tumblr page like dedicated to like supporting her and like dissing that man. 29:41Speaker 1 God, you should just do that now and like don't let your age stop. 29:43Speaker 3 Honestly I should, because like that's like it was my whole world, Like that's all I was like thinking about, and that's all I cared about. So I do see like how some fans can do that, like get into a hole and constantly like harp on about like all of these men that they think that she's writing about, And it does get to a point where I do feel sorry for some. 30:03Speaker 1 Of the guys. 30:04Speaker 3 But like she's never ever come out and said, like some other artists do, like stop harassing these people or stop thinking about that. Yeah, so I think when she says she can't control that from happening, I do think she can. 30:15Speaker 1 Yeah, potentially if she, because we've seen her kind of almost do it slightly, Like remember on the Errors tour where she said and it was like she was talking to a bunch of school kids, like you can go outside for lunch if you put your hats on. She was like, I'm gonna play Dear John, Now, don't be I'm paraphrazy. She was like, don't be weird, don't don't go. And she did say like, don't go attacking people. Don't go like try and track people down. Go, don't go saying bad things about people. She's like, this, everything's fine, We're all good. I wrote, I wrote this song. I'm proud of it, so I'm gonna play it, but please everyone be chill was the vibe because what she didn't want was this surge of online attacks with everyone like attacking John Mayer in real time after that had kind of settled down because she played that song. 30:55Speaker 3 Yeah, And it was also like when she played that song, it was like much after she wrote and put that song out. But like, obviously she is like a young woman and that she's been writing songs since she was like twelve years old, so I can imagine like writing a song, hating that man, putting it out, then getting everyone else to hate them to and how good that would feel. 31:14Speaker 1 Yeah, And there's all those soundbites of her when she you know, would do interviews, and they'd say, like, what do you think about men who like don't want to date you because you write bad things about them? And she was like, well, I just think that if men don't want me to write bad songs about them, then they shouldn't do bad things. Yeah, which is so true and also so true and so fair it is. I always think it's interesting for an artist who has built so much of her career around easter eggs, hidden messages, signs, and who actively cashes in on that to such an extent. I do think it's interesting to then be like, oh, but now it's getting a bit weird. It's like lighting a fire and being like, oh, that house burned down, but it's something to do with me. Yeah, And it's like, I know, you lit like a campfire over here, and you didn't mean for the house across the street to burn down, but it did burn down. It's still your fault. It's still your fault. 32:00Speaker 3 What I liked about that interview, though, which I think works really well for her in her career, is when she says that if something slifts, like someone upset to you or like you're going through a really hard time, make art out of it. Don't do an Instagram live. 32:14Speaker 1 Yes, which again is so true because you know what, that's what she does. She puts her money where her mouth is, Like she doesn't go on and like publicly trash people or anything like that. 32:22Speaker 3 And she could yeah, because when you do that, you're also giving away like something that you could have done instead. 32:26Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. And she was kind of like the art will always be the better option, like creating art is always the better thing. And that's so much of what she does. It's so interesting. 32:34Speaker 2 I wonder what conversation she'd have with Lena Dunham. 32:37Speaker 1 Oh, I wanted to say about so well they do. And you know what's interesting is like in Lena Dunham's new book, Famesick in the acknowledgments, like Taylor sits and then they're really close, but there's no like big stories or like anything in there about Taylor Swift, which a lot of people have pointed out is very interesting because Lena Dunham really bears her soul about her, but other people in her life that she's worked with, that she's friends with in a really in her family in a really extreme way, and then she doesn't write about Taylor Swift. 33:07Speaker 2 Yeah, do you think, And that's an agreement they have between. 33:10Speaker 1 The yeah, I do, I do. I think it is. And everyone's kind of like, oh, so you cannot write about someone who's a huge influence in your life if they're famous enough to be like, you can't do that. I'm not say that in a negative way about either of those women, but it just goes to show that, like, there's so many layers of being friends with someone who's as powerful as Taylor Swift, and that's an interesting dynamic that you have one of the most powerful talked about women in the world who everyone we just want every detail about Taylor Swift, and one of her very close friends is a writer and a creator who is known for bearing her life story and the stories of people around her, and that there's a definitive line for them that potentially she doesn't have with other people. But also she hasn't worked on a TV show with Taylor Swift. Is the other thing when people are like, oh, she just won't talk about Taylor Swift because she's sucking up to her, And I was like, I don think that's true. I think she had to write about like Adam Driver and stuff like that because she was on a TV show with them for many, many, many years, she hasn't done anything public facing like that with Taylor Swift. 34:05Speaker 3 Yeah, and also like if she did write about Taylor Swift, that'll be the one thing that everyone runs with exactly. 34:10Speaker 1 Yeah, but also that that doesn't stop her from writing other things. Yeah. The interesting thing, it's more so that there's like you just when Taylor's sis, you're afraid you just have to walk a more strict line. 34:20Speaker 2 Yeah. 34:21Speaker 1 I think because every single thing that she says or doesn't say is under a microscope, which. 34:25Speaker 3 Would have been in the like friendship agreement fine print before you become friends with her, exactly. 34:30Speaker 1 There's definitely and I mean I don't know if there's a written fine for an agreement, but potentially fast I make one. Yeah, but I think there is something that and that's what kind of seen with the whole Lively situation is that everyone's just like, well, she's broken the agreement of what they had of like not pulling each other into their public stories. And this is the thing is like one little thing of Taylor Swift just ignites this massive conversation. I also thought on the interview that was interesting was when she mentions Jack Antonoff, which there's a lot of headlines around that that Taylor Swift squashes Jack Antonoff feud, which she didn't do. She just mentioned him as a really close friend and collaborator. 35:04Speaker 2 Yeah. 35:04Speaker 1 But why it was interesting is that rumors of a few have been bubbling away because he wasn't involved in the Life of a show Girl. Oh yeah, that's right, I forgot about it. I remember that was a huge thing. Everyone's like they've fallen out. She doesn't want to work with him anymore. And then there was a whole thing where Jack Antonov's white Margaret Qualley was doing movie promo and at the end of the interview on like a live TV show, she was asked about Taylor Swift's music and like she's like, oh, new album's coming out tomorrow, Like what do you think can you tell a tvings She's like, I think everyone's excited to see it. She's like, I don't know. But also like then people like, see, there's definitely. 35:37Speaker 2 A few, but like she hates her. 35:38Speaker 1 Yeah, so it was like she's definitely a few. That's why she panicked. And I was like, I just think that she panicked because she was doing an interview at her movie and all of a sudden she was asked to like disclose information about a Taylor Swifts album, which she rightfully hadn't heard. But she didn't. 35:50Speaker 2 Squash the rumors in this interview though. 35:52Speaker 1 She just basically just spoke truth and just said that he is a longtime friend of collaborator. Well, he squashed the rumors the other day himself, because did did they go out to dinner together? No? I allow that would have been chic. No, she was out to dinner with her dad and a bunch of her friends. But I didn't see Jack and the pat pics you're looking at her da, I think he doesn't. Yeah, I thought was his name Scott Swift, Scott Swift wearing I don't think Jack Anhov leaves his home. No, No, Jack Antonov went on, I think it was Howard Stern and Howard Stone. Howard Sterne's like the one interview and that can just ask any celeb or anything and everyone's like, yeah, let me tell you about that. Yeah, he asked him, Like he's like, Oh, you've got to feel pretty bad being left off the album, and you know, being like, oh, you're just on included in this and Jack is like, no, Taylor and I really good friends, were good collaborators. He's like, you can't collaborate with the same people over and over again. He's like, I would never do that. 36:41Speaker 3 And she's also kind of said that in the interview, and she said that she loves having co writers and collaborators, but she also doesn't need them. 36:48Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly exactly, but it's just it's so interesting, and this interview is thirty minutes of this woman speaking and talking about things that she hasn't touched on as much before and like the things everyone has like really launched onto. Is like she think her fans are weird and she's not fighting with Jack cantonof with a lot of stuff in there, like I thought her even just talking about the All two World ten minute version and how the original was lost and she had to recreate it, or even talking about how like reputation is. 37:14Speaker 3 Yeah, like it became such a big album like years after Yeah, I just put out there and like all the songs that she was saying that people like slept on ready for it. 37:23Speaker 1 Yeah, I was like, oh my god, that was my favorite song on the album. Okay, I felt I always few was a bit stupid in these situations because she was like, yeah, people didn't like reputation and it kind of grew on them, but it hasn't grown as much like there's songs with people. She's basically been like, I know, you guys hate a reputation, but I love it. And I'm always on the back foot of stuff like this because I loved Reputation and it was my favorite album too, me too, And I didn't realize it was like, you know, not a thing with Swifties until the era's to a start and you know, everyone be like did you get tickets? What era are you? And I was like, oh, I guess reputation is my era because I'm like, I'm definitely gonna wear black and a red lip because's what I wear. And people are like, oh, reputation and I was like, oh, I didn't realize that was a thing. It's the same thing when everyone's like, oh, it's like how tailor swift dresses really badly and that's a known fact. And I thought she dresses badly. I thought she looks great. Oh she did for a bit, but now she looks great. Now I think she dresses badly. No, on purpose. I think she dresses badly to make herself relatable. And all the fashion girls are like, yeah's because she just dresses so badly and so on fashionably, And I'm like, from me over here, thinking she looks gress. I don't know about fashion. So we'll link the full interview in our show notes because there's a lot of interesting stuff in there. It's such a good interview. It's so wors a time. 38:29Speaker 3 She's really opinionated in this interview, which I love, Like she doesn't skirt around any answers or anything like that, Like she is really like she comes across very strongness. Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. If you love this episode, the best way you can support us is by giving us a five star rating and review wherever you're listening or watching us on whatever podcast app you're using, and don't forget we have your weekend viewing Sordid with our weekend Watch episode dropping tomorrow at six am. The Spill is produced by Manitius Warrn't Video production by Michael Keine. 39:01Speaker 1 We will see you tomorrow. Bye bye.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The crew provide a deep-dive review of the highly anticipated Michael Jackson biopic, Michael. The team explores whether this big-budget production successfully captures the King of Pop's legacy or if it remains in the shadow of the 1992 miniseries The Jacksons: An American Dream. The discussion covers everything from Jafar Jackson's uncanny performance to the casting choices for Joe Jackson, including a candid critique of the film's prosthetic work. Beyond the technicalities of the film, they analyze the historical accuracies of the timeline, the notable absence of siblings like Janet and Randy, and the missed opportunities to showcase the creative genius behind Off the Wall and Thriller. The conversation also touches on music history milestones, such as the true story of the first Black artist on MTV and the impact of the Pepsi commercial era. Finally, the episode addresses the heated debate surrounding the 90s R&B bracket as the hosts respond to listener voicemails questioning if New Edition really deserved to win over heavyweights like Jodeci and Boyz II Men. 0:00 – Weathering the Storm: A St. Louis Welcome 1:20 – Michael vs. The American Dream: Why the "Bible" Still Wins 4:01 – Missed Opportunities: The Making of Thriller and Off the Wall 7:28 – Casting Critique: Jafar Jackson vs. Colman Domingo's Nose 9:50 – Family Politics: The Missing Jacksons and Jermaine's Influence 15:25 – Motown Truths: Gladys Knight vs. Diana Ross 20:55 – MTV History: The First Black Artist Reveal 23:02 – The Pepsi Commercial and CGI Bubbles 32:16 – "Scraping the Bone": Have We Learned Everything About MJ? 49:09 – The Transformation: From Thriller to Bad 1:04:55 – Final Ratings: Was It Just a Love Letter for the 2000s Kids? 1:12:57 – Listener Voicemail: The Great 90s R&B Group Bracket Debate BRAND New Voicemail 314-649-3113 Join the I Only Listen to 90s Music Facebook Group http://bit.ly/3k0UEDe Follow I Only Listen to 90s Music on IG https://bit.ly/3sbCphv Follow SOLC Network online Instagram: https://bit.ly/39VL542 Twitter: https://bit.ly/39aL395 Facebook: https://bit.ly/3sQn7je To Listen to the podcast Podbean https://bit.ly/3t7SDJH YouTube http://bit.ly/3ouZqJU Spotify http://spoti.fi/3pwZZnJ Apple http://apple.co/39rwjD1 IHeartRadio http://ihr.fm/2L0A2y
The entire crew saw Michael and we definitely are high on nostalgia. From kid MJ to MJ breaking away from his family, Michael is a music heavy biopic that tries to humanize the once larger than life entertainer. Jaafar Jackson channels Michael and gives an amazing performance of older Mike in his first acting role ever. Colman Domingo plays a menacing Joe Jackson and Nia Long as the comforting Catherine, the movie shows MJ wanting to be creatively free and cinematically does so. Please! Subscribe where we are, especially here on YouTube
The crew is back for episode 390-something, and the conversations are heavier than ever! We kick things off with some lighthearted banter about the upcoming Michael Jackson biopic, giving massive props to Colman Domingo's portrayal of Joe Jackson, and debate which legendary musicians deserve the next big movie treatment (shoutout to Prince and Marvin Gaye). Things heat up when we dive into the rumor mill: Was the relationship between Megan Thee Stallion and Klay Thompson real, or was it a perfectly timed PR stunt designed to shift the public narrative away from the Tory Lanez trial? We break down how industry contracts work and why public breakups are always messy. We also tackle a massive elephant in the room. The crew debates the intense backlash surrounding a recent sit-down interview with an alleged domestic abuser. It sparks a deeply serious and passionate conversation about media responsibility, the realities of domestic violence, cancel culture, and whether society should ever offer a platform for rehabilitation and redemption. Plus, we wrap up with some sports talk, celebrating LeBron and Bronny James sharing the NBA floor, while questioning Kevin Durant's ability to lead a franchise. Follow the crew: @ThePourHorsemen @ShyThugg | @HardbodyKiotti | @Phi1TheDon | @LebronaldPalmer I @yo.dj.silk I @armourie.official Production Crew @TheJohnSims | @1Kharyy Shot at @TheHiveHouston Hurt At Work? Contact our partners at https://crockett.law for all of your legal needs. @bankonbriantx is ready to help. Join our Patreon for more exclusive content: https://www.patreon.com/thepourhorsemen By supporting us, you're not just a listener but a valued part of our community. Use our Code POUR at Bluechew.com for your discount. Follow The Pour Horsemen on Instagram @thepourhorsemen and email at thepourhorsemen@gmail.com. .#ThePourHorsemen #Podcast #MeganTheeStallion #KlayThompson #LeBronJames #MichaelJackson #PopCulture #CancelCulture
Greg Kane is one half of iconic outfit Hue And Cry, which has been producing music for well over 40 years. We chat with Greg on that amazing history, his approach to production and playing, and lots more. To listen / watch: Audio-only: click on the play button in the audio player above, or: Video: watch the embedded video below or check it and previous episodes out on our YouTube Channel Discussion topics covered during the show (links will open in new tab): Hue And Cry’s latest album, Everybody Working with the brilliant Yoad Nevo Thoughts on Behringer and the Deepmind 12 Hue And Cry – Stronger Greg’s love for the ASM Hydrasynth and the Moog DFAM Sam Battle’s museum: This Museum Is (Not) Obsolete When you connect 27 synths with MIDI clock The formation of Hue And Cry Hue And Cry in action live in 2025 Hue And Cry – Here Comes Everybody Hue And Cry – I Refuse Hue And Cry’s iconic song Labour of Love Hue And Cry appear on Top of the Pops Dealing with a hit and travelling to New York for recording When you’re in the vicinity of Sam Fox and David Byrne Breakfast with Petrocelli The Possible Twenty bar in New York The joy of custom DX7 and D-50 cartridges from Manny’s Music A chat on instrumentation and Hue And Cry’s 1995 album ‘Piano & Voice‘ Hue And Cry – Looking for Linda When Michael Brecker asks you to play in front of McCoy Tyner Arranging brass/horns and working with Harold Wheeler and Lenny Pickett Hue And Cry’s Jazz Not Jazz Greg’s current keyboard rig with Hue And Cry – 100% live, no backing tracks Desert Island Discs: Do It Yourself – Ian Dury & the Blockheads, Look Sharp! – Joe Jackson, Self-titled – The Specials, Kind of Blue – Miles Davis, I Heard That Noise – quickly, quickly. Key links: Become a member of our YouTube channel and receive extra content Buy some keyboard related merchandise Drop us a line via the website, Facebook, Instagram, Reddit, Threads, BlueSky, TikTok or LinkedIn Complete our audience survey to help us improve! Check out our podcast guest playlist on Spotify to get a taste of each guest’s creations.The post Greg Kane, Hue And Cry appeared first on The Keyboard Chronicles.
Went into Michael thinking it would play it safe—and yeah… it kinda does. This isn't a deep, hard-hitting biopic. It's more of a celebration of Michael Jackson's rise, his music, and those iconic moments we all know. Jafar Jackson absolutely delivers—vocals, movement, presence—it feels authentic. Colman Domingo as Joe Jackson? Intense. You feel that pressure and fear the whole time. The biggest issue? It stays surface-level. It touches on interesting parts of Michael's life but never really digs in. Critics are killing it for that—but honestly, I get what the movie was going for. At the end of the day, it's about the music, the nostalgia, and that feeling MJ gave us. And yeah… it works. Not perfect, but fans will enjoy it. #MichaelJackson #MichaelMovie #MovieReview #Biopic #KingOfPop #FilmReview #MovieTalk #Entertainment #Jackson5 #Thriller #Cinema
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Michael Jackson became the King of Pop before he was ever allowed to be ordinary. This episode traces his rise from the Jackson 5 and Motown to Off the Wall, Thriller, the moonwalk and Neverland, exploring the family pressure, talent, fame and isolation that shaped one of music's most remarkable lives. Topics Include Joe Jackson, childhood pressure, and the Jackson family home The Jackson 5, Motown, and Michael's breakout voice Off the Wall, Thriller, MTV, and the moonwalk The Pepsi burn, image changes, and Neverland Jordan Chandler and the moment everything turns Resources and Further Reading Michael Jackson - Encyclopaedia Britannica The Jackson 5 - Motown Museum Michael Jackson - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Pepsi fire left Michael Jackson in pain - Los Angeles Times Host & Show Info Hosts: Kyle Risi & Adam Cox Intro Music: Alice in dark Wonderland Community & Calls to Action Review & follow on: Spotify & Apple Podcasts Instagram: @theCompendiumPodcast Website: TheCompendiumPodcast.com Support us: Sign up to Patreon We're Hiring: Find the perfect job at the circus Share this episode with a friend! If you enjoyed it, tag us on social media and let us know your favourite takeaway. Host & Show InfoHosts: Kyle Risi & Adam CoxIntro Music: Alice in dark WonderlandCommunity & Calls to ActionReview & follow on: Spotify & Apple PodcastsInstagram: @theCompendiumPodcastWebsite: thecompendiumpodcast.comSupport us: Sign up to PatreonCircus Job Board: Apply to join the CircusShare this episode with a friend! If you enjoyed it, tag us on social media and let us know your favourite takeaway. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Hey friend — we jump into the new Michael Jackson biopic, why the family-backed take has me curious, and why the story about Joe Jackson still gets people fired up. I'm excited for the music and the nostalgia, and yeah, I might even head to the theater for this one. Then we run through the summer slate — Mando, Nolan's Odyssey, Supergirl, Spider-Man — and chat about whether great movies can still bring folks back to theaters. Popcorn ready?
Linktree: https://linktr.ee/AnalyticJoin The Normandy For Ad-Free NME, Additional Bonus Audio And Visual Content For All Things Nme+! Join Here: https://ow.ly/msoH50WCu0KIn this segment of Notorious Mass Effect, Analytic Dreamz reacts to the final trailer for Michael (2026), the highly anticipated Michael Jackson biopic starring Jaafar Jackson as the King of Pop. Released on April 8, 2026, the trailer showcases Jaafar Jackson performing iconic hits including “Thriller,” “Billie Jean,” “Beat It,” and “Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough,” while tracing Michael's journey from his early days with the Jackson 5 to global superstardom.Directed by Antoine Fuqua, the film also stars Colman Domingo as Joe Jackson, Nia Long, Miles Teller, Laura Harrier, and others. With a theatrical and IMAX release set for April 24, 2026, the final trailer builds massive excitement ahead of the movie's debut.Analytic Dreamz delivers a detailed breakdown of the trailer's visuals, musical moments, performances, and what it reveals about this cinematic portrayal of one of music's most influential artists.Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
10:26 - Why don't you call God Yahua? / 18:18 - Did Jesus go to hell when He died? / 25:00 - Was Jesus crucified on a Thursday instead of Friday? / 41:40 - Followup to Jesus going to hell, do we know what side of Hades He went to? / 46:41 - Thanks to Joe Jackson for his testimony.
Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily. I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur. Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Joxavier Jackson. A financial advisor with over 15 years of experience across major institutions such as Wells Fargo, Chase, and Bank of America. She discusses her evolution from a teenage bank teller to an independent financial planner at The Piedmont Group in Atlanta, where she provides holistic, comprehensive wealth management—especially for clients who traditionally lack access to financial literacy. Joe shares her personal journey, the gaps she observed in financial education—especially in working‑class families and communities of color—and why she aims to provide accessible, relationship‑based financial planning. She breaks down the fundamentals of long‑term wealth: insurance, asset allocation, retirement accounts, tax strategies, fraud prevention, and planning for individuals and business owners. The discussion highlights the importance of financial confidence, the significance of meeting people where they are, and the need to increase participation of Black and Brown individuals in wealth‑building spaces.
Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily. I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur. Keep winning! Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Joxavier Jackson. A financial advisor with over 15 years of experience across major institutions such as Wells Fargo, Chase, and Bank of America. She discusses her evolution from a teenage bank teller to an independent financial planner at The Piedmont Group in Atlanta, where she provides holistic, comprehensive wealth management—especially for clients who traditionally lack access to financial literacy. Joe shares her personal journey, the gaps she observed in financial education—especially in working‑class families and communities of color—and why she aims to provide accessible, relationship‑based financial planning. She breaks down the fundamentals of long‑term wealth: insurance, asset allocation, retirement accounts, tax strategies, fraud prevention, and planning for individuals and business owners. The discussion highlights the importance of financial confidence, the significance of meeting people where they are, and the need to increase participation of Black and Brown individuals in wealth‑building spaces.