Podcast appearances and mentions of jen fraboni

Lesley and Brad recap key insights from physical therapist Dr. Jen Fraboni (@docjenfit), co-host of The Optimal Body Podcast. Known for helping people move with less pain and more confidence, Dr. Jen redefines pain as an “alarm,” not a stop sign—your body's way of asking for better care and awareness. Lesley and Brad unpack her practical strategies for building stability before flexibility, tuning in before you train, and aging with strength and ease.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How Lesley's pain-as-alarm concept to daily self-check habits.Brad overcomes foot pain by staying active instead of stopping.How Lesley's yoga experience illustrated “stability before flexibility” The importance of reflection and consistency when pain shows up unexpectedly.How building strength supports graceful aging and confidence in movement.Episode References/Links:OPC Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tour0Pilates Journal Expo - https://xxll.co/pilatesjournalCambodia Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.com/waitlistAgency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniContrology Pilates Conference in Poland - https://xxll.co/polandContrology Pilates Conference in Brussels - https://xxll.co/brusselsSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsDr. Jen Fraboni's Website - https://jen.healthThe Optimal Body Podcast - https://www.docjenfit.com/podcastDr. Jen Fraboni's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/docjenfitEpisode 589: Brad Bizjack - https://beitpod.com/ep589 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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You know, just do some reflection. Lesley Logan 0:12  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:51  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the empowering convo I had with Jen Fraboni in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, you've missed out on an incredible interview with DocJenFit. That's her Instagram handle or her handle everywhere. So many of you love her, know her, and this was a really cool, I thought, very vulnerable convo as well. She shared a lot about going on her life, how she handles things. I love when people are like, just a human and so it's gonna be really good. So I can't wait to recap it, but before we do that, today is November 20th 2025, and we have two days to celebrate. And to be honest, there was like seven, so we could have chosen. There was a few that I was like, well, I don't use less, so we can't use use less day, because I'm so not participating. But there's a couple others, but we're going to focus on two of them. One is the Great American Smokeout. The American Cancer Society sponsors a Great American Smokeout on the third Thursday of November annually, challenging smokers to give up cigarettes for 24 hours. If you or a loved one smoke cigarettes, consider joining the movement and take the first step towards quitting cigarettes forever. How? Let's both try to do something tough for a day. I'll give up either coffee, sugar, social media. Brad Crowell 2:10  You're you are allowed to pitch this to them. Lesley Logan 2:13  Oh, this is how you're gonna pitch it. Brad Crowell 2:14  Yeah. This is how you're gonna pitch this to them. Lesley Logan 2:15  This is how you're gonna pitch it. So you're gonna, you, if you're a non-smoker, if you're a smoker, then you can tell another smoker, you guys could do it together. But if you're a non-smoker, asking a smoker, then you're gonna say, I'm gonna give up something they know. You're gonna have a hard time giving up for 24 hours. Brad Crowell 2:30  Like, maybe it's Instagram, maybe it's chocolate, could be sugar.Lesley Logan 2:35  Coffee, you know something like that and you give up smoking, think of it as a reset, not a rule. So.Brad Crowell 2:43  And that's what you can also tell them, It's a reset, not a rule. Lesley Logan 2:45  Well, Brad, can we, like, let's how hard, can we talk about it? Brad Crowell 2:50  We can certainly talk about it. Lesley Logan 2:51  Okay, you quit smoking. Brad Crowell 2:53  I did quit smoking. Lesley Logan 2:54  If he had been a smoker when we met, it would have not we would not be married 10 years. Brad Crowell 2:58  It's true. Lesley Logan 2:59  Because we would not have gone on a date. Brad Crowell 3:00  Yeah. I mean, it's. Lesley Logan 3:02  My grandfather was a smoker. Brad Crowell 3:04  It doesn't smell good. Lesley Logan 3:05  Yeah. So I have had two grandfathers who are massive smokers, one who lost a lung to smoking, and another one who had multiple heart problems, and the heart doctor refused to operate on him unless he quit smoking. So I, like, this is a big like, personal thing, because I lost family members to smoking. But I know it's not easy. So Brad.Brad Crowell 3:26  Yeah, I mean, I've told this story before, so it was the decision to smoke or to quit smoking was, for me, it was made emotionally, which is what made it easy. The decision to stop, to stay with that initial decision was actually quite challenging, you know, because of the addiction, because of nicotine, but because I wanted to sing more than I wanted to smoke, that was the emotional decision. It was like, oh my god, this is a very I just have to stop, like, I can't, I can't be on stage and not be able to sing. So that I think that was hard, because I had to hit a wall in order for that decision to become emotional and then for it to actually happen in my life. But okay, great. That's step one. Then step two is consistently not smoking when I used to smoke. So in the car with the window down, or I don't remember, you know, walking out of my apartment complex, there was a there was, like, part of my routine, you know, and doing those things, like continuing to do life, you're going to run back into those instances where you used to do the habit and would always make me think, this is what I would normally pull out a cigarette. And so that was, that was a constant battle for, honestly, for just a few weeks. Lesley Logan 4:56  Well, it's interesting, because so in a couple of weeks, we have a habit series starting and in one of the episodes, I talked about how to unravel a habit. And for smoking, like all we can be completely honest, there is an addictive element to it, in that they made it addictive. So you have a habit, you smoke when you're in traffic. My old roommate, she would she when she quit smoking was the hardest thing, because she's like, Lesley, I'm in traffic for 45 minutes, and I used to just sit there and smoke, and now I am not. So she had lollipops and teas and coffees because she needed something to do in the car. She actually had, like, the patches like, well, that helps you quit. So she's like, I don't even have the craving to smoke. I have the habit. So I will talk about how to unravel a habit in that series in December, so make sure you're paying attention. Okay, the other day, this is really important to Brad and I that we wanted to bring it up. (inaudible)Brad Crowell 5:47  Second thing we wanted to remember today. Lesley Logan 5:50  Yes. So it's Transgender Day of Remembrance. For generations, the transgender population has suffered various forms of abuse and even death for or murder, so we'll call it that, for challenging the views, notions and stereotypes around male and female identity. Every year, we set aside today as Transgender Day of Remembrance. This holiday is meant to honor, commemorate and memorialize those who face discrimination and stigma on a daily basis across this nation. This holiday is also meant to advocate for transgenders people's rights, as well as focus on the persistent struggles they face in their everyday lives and how others can share their love, support and hope. If you listen to this podcast and you have a fucking problem with transgenders, I am just going to be on, I need you to explore why. These are just people. They're just people, and they've been around forever. And I bring it, I bring it up in one of the FYF is coming up about like, how in the indigenous cultures, they actually have people, they already had words for this. This is something. It's actually a fucking cool thing. Like you have the ability to see the world the way they see it through both lenses. It's a powerful thing. And I fucking clearly I'm pissed about it, but I get so annoyed. We flew on a plane the other day, and no one has a problem using a toilet on a plane, but all of a sudden they have a fucking problem of sharing a bathroom with another person of a different gender, and it's like, what are we talking about here? You just shared a bathroom. So I don't understand when they make neutral bathrooms, how people get pissed about that. I also just listened to this one thing. If I could find the reel I'll send it to the team to link it. If you don't see the link below, it's because I couldn't find it. But this person is is explaining how it's sort of the safety of women to in the bathrooms, of why they want people using the bathrooms of their own, like birth certificate, right? And this one person is a trans man. He goes, so what you're actually saying is that men are a danger to women and you don't want them in their bathrooms. So that's the problem. We should solve that problem. We shouldn't be policing genitals. So I just get really upset because it's just bothersome to me. Why do we why do we care so much we have healthcare issues in this country. We have poverty issue. We have children who don't have enough food. Brad Crowell 8:06  We have food issues, yeah. Lesley Logan 8:07  The higher percentage of people. Brad Crowell 8:09  We have water issues. Did you know, I don't remember what the number is, but like, (inaudible) I think, I think it was Jackson, Mississippi, like, they don't have running water in in, like, many parts of the city. I don't know what the the numbers are, but like, that was a thing in a couple years ago. Lesley Logan 8:24  Yes, no, there's a higher percentage of people who are listening to this show that know someone who's homeless, who is a pover in poverty, who has food. What do you call it? Like a food uncertainty? Then then know of someone who's transgendered and so why? Like, what are we doing? So I'm just pissed about it. I'm just over it. I'm over people being so uptight and like that they're a threat to who you are. You know, it goes to that whole thing where it's like, if you don't like abortions, don't get one. If you don't like gay marriage, if somebody of your same sex asks you to marry them, don't say yes. Like, you don't have to do any of these things. You don't have to be trans like this is I just get annoyed. I'm pissed. Anyways, so today is the day to remember the people who have been fighting to exist as they feel like they should exist, and we should do what we can to honor those people. And if you don't know anyone, maybe consider looking at a community service organization in your area that you could donate to if you are listening from Las Vegas, when you buy food from the Bronze Cafe, their proceeds, part of their proceeds go to the LGBTQ community for mental health. So it's really, really cool. We use their restaurant for all of our retreats here in Las Vegas. We can help support that.Brad Crowell 9:37  And they have a second location at the.Lesley Logan 9:43  Oh Brad's so excited. Brad Crowell 9:45  The conservation preserve, the Springs Preserve here, which has has a massive cactus garden. So go to the cactus garden. Go eat lunch, and you'll be also helping support (inaudible) the transgender community here.Lesley Logan 9:58  Yeah, when you come visit Las Vegas, you should go to Springs Preserves, and then you can go to Bronze Cafe. Okay, cool stuff coming up now. So here we go. Brad Crowell 10:06  All right, so here's what we got coming up on the docket, actually, next week, or Yyeah, literally, in a few days, is the Black Friday Cyber Monday coming up for you've probably already been inundated with everything that's been crazy, but for us, we're going to do it actually, during the old school Black Friday Cyber, Cyber Monday is even new. Black Friday, so it's the 26th to the first of December for OPC only, y'all so check your email for more details, starting yesterday. So just go check your emails if you haven't already, we've got an offer for you with OPC.Lesley Logan 10:37  If you didn't get an email, it's because you have not signed up for our emails, or you unsubscribed from us, and we don't take that personally. You could just resubscribe. But yeah, the dates will be November 26th December 1st. Brad Crowell 10:47  If you're wondering what it is and you didn't get the email, just DM us and we can send you the right place.Lesley Logan 10:52  We're really excited about this sale, and it's the one time of the year we do it, so take advantage. Don't ask us on December 2nd for it. It's not how it works. It's actually a lot of work. Brad Crowell 11:01  Speaking of December, we're gonna be on the road again for our winter tour for OPC, and the actual dates we're gonna get, it's like starting on the seventh or sixth.Lesley Logan 11:11  No, it's like the fifth, I think it's the fifth in Colorado Springs, and it ends on. Brad Crowell 11:15  Oh, yeah, we gotta drive there, though, so we leave.Lesley Logan 11:18  We leave earlier than it starts. We come home the day that it ends so but it's like, it's like, December 5th through the January 6th or January 7th. Brad Crowell 11:28  And we do come home the day that ends. Lesley Logan 11:30  I, yeah, I know that we sound like when it comes to this tour that we're like, not organized. The last time we recorded, we had no idea where we're going. And now we do, and it's huge. The whole tour is listed, 23 cities. Brad Crowell 11:42  Yeah, 23. Lesley Logan 11:43  Colorado Springs. Brad Crowell 11:45  23 public events. Lesley Logan 11:46  St Louis.Brad Crowell 11:47  Yeah, the fifth, the first the first event is on December 5 in Colorado Springs, then we go to Fayetteville.Lesley Logan 11:54  Oh, Fayetteville. Oh, I'm so sorry. How could I skip Arkansas. Brad Crowell 11:57  Then St Louis on the 7th. Lesley Logan 11:58  Then St Louis, then Detroit, then Columbus. Brad Crowell 12:01  No, then Lexington. Lesley Logan 12:03  I'm going to Lexington. Brad Crowell 12:04  You're going to Lexington.Lesley Logan 12:04  Oh, I am going to Lexington, but I'm going in that order.Brad Crowell 12:06  Then you're going to Columbus, then you're going to Detroit.Lesley Logan 12:09  What? How does the map work? Am I going like zigzag?Brad Crowell 12:14  Believe it or not, they're almost in line. Yeah, they're, they are.Brad Crowell 12:18  I don't understand the middle. I'm so sorry. Okay, then we go to Pittsburgh. Lesley Logan 12:22  Okay, Pittsburgh. Then we go to. Brad Crowell 12:25  Rochester Lesley Logan 12:26  RochesterBrad Crowell 12:27  New York Lesley Logan 12:27  Oh, yeah, we're going to, do you say Rochester or you go Rochester. How do you say it? Brad Crowell 12:31  RochesterLesley Logan 12:32  RochesterBrad Crowell 12:33  Rochester, New York. And then we go to Boston, Cape Cod, Hartford, Connecticut. That's a new one for us. Hershey, Pennsylvania. We're coming back Rehoboth Beach. Lesley Logan 12:42  That's a new one for us. Brad Crowell 12:43  That's new, to Delaware, that'll be just after Christmas, and then we have Washington, DC, Virginia Beach, Charlotte, North Carolina. That's new for us. We've got Delray. This is Florida. We're gonna be hoofing it from North Carolina all the way down to Delray, Florida. This is new.Lesley Logan 12:59  Christmas Eve, Del Rey. Brad Crowell 13:01  Nope, New Year's Eve Del Rey. On a roll, here.Lesley Logan 13:07  You guys Del Rey is near Fort Lauderdale, Hollywood, Florida, correct? Brad Crowell 13:11  Yeah. It's just north of Fort Lauderdale, I think. Lesley Logan 13:14  So our Miami stop has moved up a little bit because most of you are driving from that area anyway, so you're welcome. And then we do New Year's Day with our Pilates crew that's in Tampa.Brad Crowell 13:26  Yes. Lesley Logan 13:26  And then we go to Pensacola. Brad Crowell 13:28  Yes. Then New Orleans. Lesley Logan 13:30  New Orleans, and then Houston. Brad Crowell 13:31  Then, Houston. Lesley Logan 13:32  Houston. We haven't been to Houston in years.Brad Crowell 13:34  Yeah, it's been quite a few years for us to be in Houston. That'll be on January 4th and then fifth in Austin, and then Phoenix, we're coming to you on the seventh.Lesley Logan 13:42  Yeah. So get your tickets at opc.me/events, by the way. Brad Crowell 13:46  Nope, opc.me/tour, opc.me/tour. Lesley Logan 13:50  There's two links. Okay, sorry, opc.me/tour is where you get your tickets. And at the time we're recording this, we're over 57% sold out. By the time you're hearing this, it's going to be way closer to sold out, because literally, nine events only have one spot right now in them. So go to opc.me/tour. Bring your friends. Also in December, we didn't do a Profitable Pilates Black Friday, Cyber Monday this year, because we want you to focus on, so save the date, December 26th or the 31st that will be on the Profitable Pilates newsletter list. So you have to be on that one. So for the Pilates instructors studio owners who want business flights, we're gonna have some special deal on Agency. We've never done it before. So make sure you're watching your inbox for that if you don't get those emails, just DM us and the team will help you out. Brad Crowell 14:36  By the way, we're 55% sold out. Lesley Logan 14:39  Oh, I know, but we're. Brad Crowell 14:40  I just checked. Lesley Logan 14:41  I know, but it hasn't been updated in 48 hours, so.Brad Crowell 14:44  Maybe even more, so it might be closer to 60. Good stuff.Lesley Logan 14:48  Yeah, I think so. And then after our tour, we come home for one day, kick off, eLevate, get our roots done, get our nails done by (inaudible), and then we go to Huntington Beach. Teach for the Pilates Journal Expo. This is a really cool two-day event, huge lineup of teachers. I don't I it's like a fucking party. So you should just go to xxll.co/pilatesjournal. So just two Xs guys, xxll.co/pilatesjournal. And then if you aren't already on the waitlist, you'll want to be on the waitlist because also, in January, we're going to open up the early bird registration for our Pilates retreat in Cambodia. This we just came back from. Brad Crowell 15:28  Y'all it is going to be amazing. Lesley Logan 15:30  I'm making so many mistakes, because we just got back and it was the coolest retreat of life. No offense to the people we've been on retreats with before, you were amazing.Brad Crowell 15:37  Incredible retreat. Lesley Logan 15:38  But like, if you have ever thought, oh, my god, they must get bored of this. We don't. We had the best fucking time. It was like we I just loved it. So I can't wait to take you,Brad Crowell 15:48  Yeah, and I think, I think this year is going to be sorry, next year, So 2026, is going to be even better. And I know we've had a lot of interest already, but one of the things we're going to do differently, in January, we're going to have a call for everyone who's curious about this, the retreat, all the questions. We're going to have a couple of our past retreaters join us live, and we're going to have them just answer those questions. You can ask them directly. They can share with you their experience, you know, the process of getting there, like, did they feel safe? What kind of food was it? What kind of activities did they enjoy? All the things that you might be curious about. And I'm telling you, it is gonna next year, is gonna sell quickly. So, get yourself on the waitlist. Go to crowsnestretreats.com and we can't wait to see it all there.Lesley Logan 16:34  Every group is got its own, different vibe. This group, we were like, rapping in the in the bus on the way to like, no one took a nap. Usually people are napping. We were like, half a native. So anyways, crowsnestretreats.com, crowsnestretreats.com/waitlist get you on the waitlist. Okay, in February, that is when our Agency Mini is happening. That is our three day event. I don't know if we're doing a second one next year. We're going to try, but you know, we'll see. So you're going back to Agency Mini, you want to get on the waitlist for that if you want to make sure you don't miss the early bird discount, prfit.biz/mini holy fucking molly, there's a lot of events coming up. So Poland and Brussels, that is in March, you guys. And I mean, a lot of questions about, are you doing anything in Europe? Anything? This is it. We're going, we're like, literally not getting on a plane until March, and I don't have plans to get on a plane after March until Cambodia. So if you want to see me, you need to check out the Poland Controlology Pilates conference. xxll.co/poland and or Brussels, xxll.co/brussels, two events, different workshops to both events, you can you're welcome to come to both. Karen Frischmann is actually collabing on that with me and the host studios, so you get two amazing teachers for the price of a weekend. And it's pretty kind of it's pretty awesome. So different workshops, plus there's a day of privates and semi private classes. So you can also jump in and enjoy some workouts with us. You don't want to miss it, because I don't know when we're coming back. Okay? And then we're gonna leave that. Brad and I are gonna do a vacation. Brad Crowell 18:08  What? Weird. Lesley Logan 18:09  About nine, 10 days vacation in Europe, and then April after our vacation, we wrap up in April at P.O.T. London, and now it's official. Now if you've been hearing me say, I'm not allowed to tell you, I don't know if we're allowed to tell you, we can tell you I signed a contract. I don't I don't I don't know if there's a link out yet, but I'm sure there is. So just look at like, P.O.T. London from Balanced Body, and you'll find it. All right, oh my gosh, okay, should we let's get to this audience question, and we got to get to this amazing recap episode.Brad Crowell 18:34  All right, so the audience question this week was from @audreyphipps1726, on YouTube. She, this is for the Pilates equipment for beginners video. She said, hey, what size is that Try Me Stability Ball. I would love to find one. Lesley Logan 18:50  Yeah, so the triad ball that's.Brad Crowell 18:53  I was wondering. Lesley Logan 18:54  Audrey, it took me a second. I was like, try me. I'd have to Google this, because sometimes people go, hey, what do you think of this item? And I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about, but I realize it's my accent. It's the triad ball, and I don't actually know the dimensions. It's a purple ball that you don't want to fill all the way up. It's smaller than a I guess it'd be like, volleyball size when it's filled up, but you want it to be a little squishy. And where did I get it. I think I went on Balanced Body. Let's see.Brad Crowell 19:24  The OPTP triad ball nine and a half inches. Lesley Logan 19:27  Is it purple? Brad Crowell 19:28  Um, yeah, it's purple. Lesley Logan 19:30  Yeah, the OPTP. Brad Crowell 19:32  Yeah. OPTP triad ball nine and a half inches. Lesley Logan 19:35  You can get it at like, Target. Brad Crowell 19:37  Yeah, even at Walmart. Lesley Logan 19:38  I'm not shopping at Target these days, but you can get on OPTP's website, they have a bunch. They have a huge website, lots of amazing stuff on TP actually, you'll kind of like, it's good products, good stuff. So if you have a question, you can text us at +13109055534, or submit it to beitpod.com/questions. You can also leave a win. And I love getting your wins, because I love helping people see like there's a celebration in everything. You know there's a reason to celebrate the whole every if you just watch the news and open up your phone, it fucking sucks. So you got to have a place where you know it's going to be some good news, and you might hear your win on a day you need to remind yourself that you had a fucking win.Brad Crowell 20:17  Yeah, that's true. Yeah, you are 100% right. Well, stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 20:23  Okay, welcome back. Let's talk about Dr. Jen Fraboni. Dr. Jen Fraboni, also known as Doc Jen Fit, is a physical therapist passionate about helping people move more with less pain and more confidence. She is the founder of Jen.Health, a platform and app designed to make strength, mobility and recovery accessible for everyone. Alongside her husband, she cohosts The Optimal Body Podcast. Her work has also been featured nationally, including on Good Morning America and NBC, where she shared simple strategies to ease back pain during the pandemic. So we well, it was just a great conversation, by the way, nobody knows this, but I get to watch the the full interview call, right? And. Lesley Logan 21:06  You watch it? Brad Crowell 21:07  Yeah, watch every single one of them. That's how I do prep. Oh, I thought you just listened, nope, 100% of the time watching the interview. So the beginning of it was really fun because you were saying that, basically you were like, oh my gosh, this is how my day is gonna go today. I'm so excited to start today with this interview.Lesley Logan 21:26  Well, because, because it was a Zoom call with Jen Fraboni. And I was like, it's Jen Fraboni. And then it was then she showed up, like, Oh my God. Like, I was like, I mean, I guess I could have looked up.Brad Crowell 21:39  Doc Jen Fit. Lesley Logan 21:40  I mean, I knew I was interviewing her at some point, but I just my brain didn't like keep her, keep her last name associated with her Instagram handle, but yeah, how fun is that? I don't know, maybe the team left in the outtakes. Yeah, it was so good. Brad Crowell 21:53  Yeah. So you know what, what the two of you were digging into. I thought it was just really great talking about paying because I I related a lot to that, especially this past year, I've actually had a lot of pain with my my foot. So anyway, you know. Lesley Logan 22:08  But well, that goes into, like, something like, what I liked that she addressed about pain was that, like, most of the time it's just an alarm. Especially if you didn't get an accident, like, and sometimes your pain is like, you're just sitting there, and all of a sudden something hurts in your body, and you're like, ah, this hurts. And I'm like, just sitting there, like, what are you talking about? So in that case, if it wasn't, like, you know, you fell down the stairs, you tripped across the street, you were in a car accident, if you have pain, it is your body going, Hey, hi. You're not taking good care of me, right? It's like, just trying to get your attention. And I just like, if we think of that as what it is, as opposed to, I have to stop doing everything that was associated with that, because this is what happens, right? People come to Pilates once a week. The goal is three to four times. Week four is better. That's the goal, right? But I have someone who'll come once a week, and they go, they'll see me the next week. Oh, last last week. My back hurt, so we need to be conscious of that. And it's like so there are six other days, plus the 23 hours of the day. I didn't see you. What did you do? How are you taking care of yourself? I'm not saying the Pilates doesn't didn't hurt you. What I am saying is more likely than not, it wasn't the Pilates, but the Pilates is the unique thing about your day, right? So it's, it's similar to, I have some stomach digestive issues, and I would go, Oh, I think I got gluten, or I must have had some dairy. When I found out that I'm also allergic to oats. And every fucking day I was having oat milk, right?. And I wasn't associating, like, any of the other boring food I was having all of the time, I was coming up with, like, this unique thing that could have happened, so I really like that.Brad Crowell 23:53  We were just with our friend, and the next day he was like, I think I got glutened yesterday. It must have been that meal that we ate, you know? And I said, you know, I'm I'm also not feeling 100% and then I thought about the restaurant, which is we've eaten at 100 times. And I was like, what did we do differently? And he had the spiciest Margarita I think I've ever tasted, and I was loading on the hot sauce. I was like, You know what, man, I wonder. I mean, look, it's possible that you got glutened but they were, they specifically came out and told us that they made this gluten free. So I'd be surprised. Maybe there was some leftover, something (inadible) but also, like, the two of us ate something that was pretty off the path. I like to eat spicy stuff, but, like, we ate a lot of it.Lesley Logan 24:39  His his his Margarita was almost undrinkable. Lesley Logan 24:42  It was crazy. You diluted it twice.Lesley Logan 24:44  And you know, I like a spicy mar I was like, I I think that was gonna provide a colonic, to be completely honest, anyways. But I just think, like, she gave some really great stuff, like she talked about her own personal experience, like she's got some back pain, and she's like, Oh, I've been sleeping less, I'm breastfeeding, I'm sitting more, and I'm not moving my body. So what can I do to be more conscious about the things that I need to give myself?Brad Crowell 25:06  Yeah, I think, I think, with the, with the the idea that people coming into class and saying, Oh, well, last week, I was in pain afterwards, you know, the what she mentioned, which I thought was really obvious but needed to be heard. She said, you know, if you're in the gym lifting and you like, tweak your back, obviously you're going to say, well, I shouldn't do that again. No, no problem, of course. But that was probably not that was the moment that things were stressed to the point of ouch. But that wasn't the only moment. There are definitely other things leading up to that exact moment of when, when your body is, like, we're done trying to hold it together here, now you're in pain. And she said, so, so there's other movements that you're probably doing in your life that are, it's cumulative, right? It's, it's, it's adding up over time, and then bam, maybe the moment that it happened was in a class when you're probably doing something particular that you wouldn't be normally doing, like doing a headstand, or whatever it might be, you know, being on one leg, you know, the, the, but, that's probably not where it started. Lesley Logan 26:16  I think we could all agree in this moment where we're not in pain, right? I hurt my knee doing a deadlift. When I hired my trainer, I said, Yeah, I've been dead lifting a lot lighter because it doesn't bother my knee. But the actual thing that's bothering my knee is the fact that I had weak inner thighs and hamstrings compared to my quads, and then the way my gait is on that leg, that's why my knee hurt. It just so happened that I felt the pain doing the deadlift. The deadlift is actually not the problem my form and my deadlift is not the problem. It is an in-balance and muscles on that leg. And so what can we be doing to make sure that we're taking, like, consistent care of ourselves, and then when we hear, when we feel pain, really doing some sort of creating, some sort of like, okay, hold on, what's my sleep like, what's my intake like, what's my fuel like, have I been consistent? So if you are someone who, like, doesn't work out for a week, and then goes and works out hard, like, I got to get in it, just so, you know, you're going to be in some pain afterwards because you didn't have consistency going into it. So, you know, just do some reflection before you go, oh, that's a problem.Brad Crowell 27:20  Speak about reflection, which, which is, this is pretty funny for, for if you have people coming in and saying, well, last time I did this, I hurt. Lesley Logan 27:29  Or if you are that person. Brad Crowell 27:30  Yeah or if you are that person, do you wake up and hurt like, should this? Does that mean you shouldn't sleep like? You know what I mean, the logic doesn't apply here. I just heard like. Lesley Logan 27:43  So this has nothing to do with that, but it's just my brain thing. Okay?. So this person goes, like, this, like, thing I saw. This person goes, I need to go on a vacation. And this other person goes, did you just come back from a vacation? And then it's like, you should just say, Did you have lunch yesterday? And they're like, yeah, that does that mean you need lunch today? Right? Like, yeah, like, you're if you're.Brad Crowell 28:06  Like, obviously, you're not gonna say, Well, I guess I shouldn't sleep because, because maybe you just slept on your shoulder, weird, or whatever. And also, too, it doesn't (inaudible) it also doesn't mean that your shoulder is broken or jacked up. It means you stressed it improperly for an extended period of time. Maybe you were sleeping on it weird, right? And how, like, you know, you know how that is, you know how that that feeling is. It could be your ankle or something where it takes a couple of hours for it to work itself out. And what's happening there, which I which I thought was interesting. She talks about how pain. It's a signal from the brain saying something is not 100% correct here. Something is not 100% correct here. Just a reminder. A reminder, a reminder.Lesley Logan 28:50  It's like, when you hit the button and the community goes, er, and you're like, let me hit that again, it goes, er, and you're like, I don't know why I'm expecting something different. Brad Crowell 28:58  Yeah, well, and here's how this, here's how this relates to what I loved. She said. She said, the more we don't use it, we lose it, right? You use it or lose it. You've heard that phrase a million times. But she said the thing that was that frustrates her the most is when she her clients come to her and say, the doctor told me I'm not allowed to do this anymore, right? The thing, whatever the thing is, and this is what related to me because, you know, a couple months, Well, geez, in February of this year, it's now, you know, November, I started to feel pain in my foot, in the top of my foot, it was like this pulling pain. It felt like fascia or nerves. I couldn't decide. I still can't decide. And for a long, long time, I just stopped things. I just stopped doing, you know, like, the pointing of my toe, stopped it. All the stuff that you do in yoga class, stopped it. I was like, I need some time off. Well, I gave up the time off, and it didn't fix it, right? So, then what? Then what it was the next thing we do? Started going to the chiropractor. Chiropractor couldn't figure out what's going on, right there. She's like, Hey, you're you're aligned. What are you talking about, right? So, you know, then I was like, must be these other things. So I'm starting to massage myself. I'm doing all this stuff. And then a couple, like, two months ago, I just decided, You know what, I'm just gonna get warm and I'm gonna keep using my foot. I'm just gonna keep using it. Because, you know, one of the things that she said is especially being pregnant a second time, she leaned into, you know, doing her workouts, when her body was was starting to, like, freak out, but her body was going through a major change, and she said, you know, maybe she modified the exercise, but she always felt better after doing her workout, despite being told, you know, you know, her body, you know, sending a signal. And I think, I think that we have to be careful with this. You know, same for me, I have to actually be careful with this. It's not no pain, no gain, yeah, it's not real. I don't agree with that. It's also, you know, there are, there are moments where your body is is trying to warn you on something, but you need to be able to decide for what that is and and understand, right? Is it like pain to the point of like damage, or are we talking that, that signal of warning, you know, that's like, Oh, you have to be cautious, right? Lesley Logan 31:12  Yeah. Well, it makes it so this morning, I was doing my first Pilates practice on the Reformer in three weeks. And I did not I was like, man, I got my Spine Corrector, and I was like, this not feel awesome. It didn't hurt. It just was like, right? And then I got in the Reformer, and the first overhead kind of was like, but then the second one felt better and the third one felt better. So it's not, it is no no pain, no gain. But is you, if you have a consistent practice of any kind of movement. When you start going, you know, if your body is telling you, this is not a good day or, Oh, hold on, this is opening up. I'm warming up to it. And so when I was doing tendon stretch on the Reformer, normally, I do a single leg tendon stretch. And I did tendon stretch. I did three, and I was like, I in no way feel safe, to lift a leg off. I'm gonna do four more and get off. I got to headstand. I did all the things but the actual headstand, because I have a consistent enough practice in my body, I could tell that I'm going to feel better when it's over, but I'm not pushing myself to do something it shouldn't do. And that just comes with time. It just comes with listening to your body. So, you gotta do that.Brad Crowell 32:20  Yeah, I mean, you know, she said something that I also thought was interesting, that we never, that I never thought about before. She said, clearly, the outside of our bodies change, our faces sag, or we get wrinkles, things, lalala, why would we never, why would we expect that there are no internal changes as well, right? And she was talking about, you know, joint degeneration, and, you know, all those kinds of things which are natural and they happen, you know, discs in your back, compression, all that kind of stuff. But the only way to age gracefully, despite your body deteriorating is strength. Is strong muscles, right? And so we still should be we need to be prioritizing that in our lives now so that we can be moving with ease as we age.Lesley Logan 33:11  Yeah, no, it's so and that's just it, you guys, you will never stop having to sleep enough drink, enough water and strengthen your muscles like that you're, so sorry, guaranteed in life until we no longer get to live on this beautiful planet. So, there you go.Brad Crowell 33:28  Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into those Be It Action Items that we got from Dr. Jen Fit. Brad Crowell 33:35  All right, welcome back. Let's dig into these Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items. Can we take away from your conversation with Dr. Jen Fraboni? She explicitly advised against relying on passive stretching as a primary solution for pain, even though it can feel good and relaxing, she said it's better to create stability, that is the fundamental requirement for the body to feel safe. So you were talking about the off balance muscles that you had, which is why your lifting was feeling pain, because you were unstable. Your one muscles, your one set of muscles, were stronger than the other set of muscles. She said, when you create stability, it creates a sense of safety. And she recommends focusing on active stretching, isometric holds and strengthening exercises. She highlighted Pilates as a modality that is great at creating stability and teaching the body safety, especially in the initial phases of pain recovery. So yay for Pilates. That's fantastic. What about you? Go ahead, go ahead.Lesley Logan 34:37  I was gonna say, like today, we were in yoga, and my left hamstring just would not open up. And the reality is my left hip just feeling unstable. That's why we're headed to the chiropractor after this. And it's like, I cannot open up this hamstring when my pelvis is out. And so I just really like, that was such a that's such a takeaway for me. I love that Be It Action Item. So be mindful of the passive stretching, my loves. Just be mindful. I love, this is great, t only way that we start to know how to move forward is if we tune in first. So it's really, this is this kind of goes back to, like a Brad BizJack's episode, actually, and that and that, maybe he didn't say it in this episode, but he has said it in something that I've heard of him before, which is, but go listen to that episode anyways, he's like, you would never, you would never just like, go get in the car and drive somewhere without having, like, a destination in mind. Unlike most people, don't check in with how they feel before they like move their body. They just start moving their body like they're not tuning in. So before you set a goal, before you do things, you have to kind of go inward first, so that you know where you're putting your compass, where you're putting your directions, where you're moving forward to. So otherwise you're like, oh, maybe I should do if you don't tune in first, you're gonna be the person who's like, oh, the hot new thing is Jiu Jitsu, and I'm doing Jiu Jitsu, and then that new hot thing is this box thing on a trampoline, like you're not going to actually be able to look at a movement modality and go, oh, that's what my body needs. You'll just be like, going hopping from one thing to the next expecting a quick fix. So I did love that one. And then she really, she advised onto every day to take five deep, long, slow breaths, mouth closed, and focus on taking breath into the sides of your rib cage. OPC members know this. Brad Crowell 36:24  Diaphragmatic breathing. Lesley Logan 36:26  And avoid breathing into your shoulders, neck or chest. Otherwise you're gonna feel stressed. But if you take these deep breaths, you often will see that the pain starts to diminish. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 36:35  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 36:36  I really hope this was helpful, especially if pain is part of your daily life, it is really hard to be it till you see it in that kind of state. And so hopefully this gave you some tips, gave you some ideas, gave you some permission and share it with a friend who needs to hear it, especially one who's like this topic is like, what they're needing right now. It's, I don't know, there's just so much permission in this episode. Until next time, Be It Till You see it. Brad Crowell 36:55  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 36:57  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Lesley sits down with Dr. Jen Fraboni, PT, DPT—better known as DocJenFit—to change how you think about pain. Instead of seeing it as a problem, Jen reveals how pain is your body's protective alarm asking for attention, not avoidance. Together, they unpack how stress, sleep, movement, and breath all shape what you feel day to day—and how small shifts can help you feel safer and stronger. Whether you're postpartum, navigating chronic aches, or simply tired of “powering through,” this episode will help you move with confidence and compassion for your body.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How to recognize pain as a helpful body signal, not a threat.How stress, sleep, and nutrition influence your daily pain levels.Why MRI or scan results don't always predict how you feel.How postpartum movement and breath restore stability and confidence.Why building strength creates long-term safety better than stretching alone.Episode References/Links:Dr. Jen Fraboni's Website - https://jen.healthDr. Jen Fraboni's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/docjenfitDr. Jen Fraboni's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCknKMzugCaPXD4AI6rq3wiQDr. Jen Fraboni's TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@docjenfitTiny Habits by BJ Fogg - https://a.co/d/56xwXLNGuest Bio:Dr. Jen Fraboni, PT, DPT, is an internationally-renown physical therapist who specializes in helping people overcome chronic pain and maximize physical performance. As the founder of the new platform and app, “Jen.Health,” she brings a unique, whole body approach to strength, mobility and pain-free living. In 2019, Jen was named one of the top 50 most influential healthcare professionals. Jen's easily accessible approach has garnered her more than half a million followers on social media and millions of views of her health and fitness videos. Jen has been featured in Shape Magazine, Self Magazine, Men's Fitness and Muscle and Fitness and in 2020, graced the cover of Oxygen Magazine. During the pandemic, she helped ease back pain with her feature on Good Morning America and NBC. 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We're neglecting something. We need to add something in. And yet, when we have pain, we automatically think something is wrong, something is bad, which, sometimes, sure, but most of the time it's just an alarm, especially you didn't get an accident, nothing happened immediately. This is just another signal to the brain that, hey, we're neglecting something in the body.Lesley Logan 0:29  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:12  All right, Be It babe. This is gonna be an epic episode. Really, truly, so excited to have this amazing woman on. I got so excited about all the education information she was giving us. I didn't give her a proper bio, and you'll get one on Thursday, for sure. But just know that Docjenfit is our guest today, and she has been named one of the top 50 healthcare professionals in the US. Like she's amazing, she's wonderful, and she has a really great, amazing outlook on how we can look at pain in our bodies. And when it comes to being it till you see it, there's just so many factors, right? We can give you all the strategies and all the meditations and all the journals in the world, but like, if you feel pain in your body, it could literally be the thing that holds you back. And I can't have that. We can't have that around here. So Docjenfit is going to educate us and give us some inspiration and some options in our life and ways to think about pain that I think you're going to change your life and help you be it till you see it. So here she is. Lesley Logan 1:59  Be It babe. This is this is going to be fun. This is a more like a dream come true. This is a little bit of fan girling, because in the world that I lived in in Los Angeles, I got to see this woman, kind of from afar, sometimes right next to me in work at the same places, and she is just like, just the person who's been so authentically themselves, helping people in the best way, in a different avenue than I do in the fitness world, but just in a way that I so respect and so admire, and watching her grow year after year has been absolutely wonderful and awe inspiring. Jen Fraboni, Docjenfit, holy fucking molly. Thanks for being here. Dr. Jen Fraboni 2:33  Thank you so much for having me.Lesley Logan 2:36  Okay, in case people have no idea who you are. Can't can't believe it, but it could be true. Can you tell everyone what you rock at? Dr. Jen Fraboni 2:42  Yeah, I am a physical therapist. My handle is Docjenfit across the board. So Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, all the places. And I help empower people to move in a different way in their bodies than they might not have known, to hopefully find ways that they could relieve pain and move better, move more efficiently.Lesley Logan 3:05  Yeah, because I think, like, similarly, I'll meet a lot of people, they'll come in and they'll have pain, and there's certain things that they want to do. And as a Pilates instructor, as much as knowledge as I have, there's some things like way outside my scope. But also I think sometimes pain becomes something that really holds us back. And I watch people sometimes, like, hold on to the pain or have a story around it. And it can be hard to watch that, because you're like, you have so much potential, you have so much stuff you could do in this world, but the pain is holding you back. Can you chat about, like, what when people have pain in their body? Like, what have you seen it negatively do and affecting their lives and like what they're capable of?Dr. Jen Fraboni 3:44  Pain is hard, because what should be thought as a good alert system within our body, just like anything else, our stomach grumbles when we're hungry. We yawn when we're tired. You know, our body is constantly giving us signals that something needs to change. We're neglecting something. We need to add something in. And yet, when we have pain, we automatically think something is wrong, something is bad, which sometimes, sure, but most of the time it's just an alarm, especially you didn't get an accident, nothing happened immediately. This is just another signal to the brain that, hey, we're neglecting something in the body, and it's not necessarily bad, but I'm protecting you in case it turns into bad. So if we can start to see it more as that protective mechanism, rather than, oh my gosh, something is damaged. Something is horrible. I have broken like, you know, my spine is popping. Whatever things that we say in our mind about when we feel it, if we could just say, oh, that is a that's a protective mechanism so that it doesn't become bad, and then we start acting upon it and moving into it. I think the number one thing that pops up for people is is that it is horrible. It's bad. I need to stop moving, I need to stop doing whatever I just did. That's going to damage it. I'm creating more damage if I feel the pain. You know, all these stories that we continue to tell ourselves, and sometimes it has nothing to do with the tissue. Yes, the tissue is involved, but there are neuro tags that our brain creates based on little things that pop up within our body, and when we're stressed, when we don't drink enough water, we're not sleeping enough we're not putting good nutrients within our body. And we're constantly kind of in this cycle of either under eating or under fueling, not getting enough nutrients, not I'm constantly going for takeout or processed food because I just don't have time, you know, all these different things that start to happen, and then our lives can create or increase those symptoms and increase those signals to the brain, and we start living in that pain, and we feel it a little bit more amplified. So it's not even always the tissue. But you know, I think the number one thing that happens is that we we fear that we're creating more damage anytime we move and feel pain.Lesley Logan 6:09  Okay, this is, there's so many different things in there, but like that is really enlightening to me. It makes because, okay, so in 2013, 2013, 2014 that's in 2014, 2014 I fractured my tibial plateau running. Yeah, I just retired from being sponsored. I told my sponsor, like, I'm done. Like I actually, I got slower in there. Somehow I got happy. I can't run that hard anymore. Can't do it. And then, of course, I'm like, didn't understand the depth of a curb thing, and I hyper-extended my knee, awful, terrible. And I'm really lucky it was a non surgical situation. And your whole your my brain went through all the fears, like, am I gonna walk again? Am I gonna run again? Is it gonna affect it? Like you're the whole thing goes crazy. And I was just like, having to go this battle of like, you actually are gonna walk again, like you're, this is so, like, you're just off your leg for eight weeks. Like, out of everything that's going on, like this battle with my brain, and I was working with a really amazing trainer, and, you know, I was able to put body weight back in that leg. He was giving me some squats and some things, all fine, all released from the doctor, all able to do and I would go, anytime it was new, I go, oh, that hurts. Oh, that hurts. And he finally said to me, is it hard or does it hurt? And I think it goes to your point with pain, sometimes we also just confuse, like, is my brain actually saying I'm in pain, or am I coming up against a challenge that I feel uncomfortable with? And it turned out that, like, No, it wasn't actually pain. It was just uncomfortable and it was hard, and I hadn't had to deal with hard workouts in a while like I had. Dr. Jen Fraboni 7:45  And it's scary. It's scary coming back in and you're, you don't want to do something where you're like, Well, I don't want this to be my life. So I'm, I'm afraid.Lesley Logan 7:55  Yeah, yeah. And then like, you know, I think about some of the clients I have where they would come back and they would go, Oh, we did after Pilates, this hurt. And I was like, Okay, I'm looking at the exercise we did, and I have to go, Okay, can you tell me what you did before Pilates, what you did after Pilates? Oh, I was organizing my garage. I'm like, do you think perhaps maybe it might have been the garage, but, you know, I think, so then people go to your point, they're like, I can't do that again, versus, like, what is it telling me? What do I need to do? What imbalances do we might have? Okay, so then I guess my question is, like, how do we how do we do that? How do we explore like, in ourselves or with with those of us who, because some people who are listening, have friends or family who are like, constantly in pain or something constantly hurts. Like, when are we indulging it too much, and when are we like not listening to it? I guess it could be on either (inaudible).Dr. Jen Fraboni 8:45  Yes, that's a really great question, because it's so true. Sometimes we have those pain responses and we're like, kick it down the road. Kick it down the road, whatever, both of them. We got to listen to all of it. That's the whole point, right? It's a signal from our body, so we don't want to ignore it, but we don't want to fear it. So that's where we have to say, okay, my body's trying to tell me something. What is it that I'm neglecting? Let's start at just the base of everything, right? If I am not moving much in general, I have been super stressed. I'm I go to work, I sit in a car for an hour. I sit at my desk, I come home, I have so many a million responsibilities to take care of. I have kids that need me. I'm lifting, I'm grocery shopping, so I'm still lifting and moving and picking up kids or doing whatever, but I'm not actively training my body for any of those things, and now I'm doing it in a state of stress. So all of that combined is just a recipe for your body to be overdone, overdoing it. And once our our brains start like those signals can only take so much, and usually they're filtering it out. There's not enough, you know, just like outside noise, like, there's not enough to take in all of the noises all around. So your brain filters a lot of things out, a lot of unnecessary things. When things become when your brain's like, this is getting to a point where something has to change or else this is going to be bad. That's when it can no longer filter it out. And so all of a sudden we start to get that pain response that's like, normally would be resting right down here. We wouldn't really be paying attention to it. It wouldn't really be a big deal. But all of a sudden you bend down, you pick up that pencil, and your back feels like it just broke. It just went out. It wasn't the bending down and picking up the pencil, it was all these little things along the way that we were not paying attention to until your brain was finally like, Nope, you got to listen. This is this is not okay anymore. And maybe it didn't come with a disc herniation. However, we know that a disc herniation can be there prior as well, and there are studies that show all the way to 20s, all the way into your 20s, you can see disc degeneration on an MRI. You can see disc herniations on MRIs, and it increases as we increase with age. So up to 80s, you're going to see like, I mean, gosh, I wish I had the stats with me right now. But I think in your 60s, you could see up to 80% of people have disc degeneration and no pain. Lesley Logan 11:21  Whoa. Dr. Jen Fraboni 11:23  So it's crazy the numbers, but we have to realize, just like the outside of my body is going to change, my face is going to start to sag my I'm going to start to get wrinkles, changes are going to happen externally. Why would we not expect changes to happen internally? Lesley Logan 11:37  Yeah, yeah. Dr. Jen Fraboni 11:39  Like that that's a part of the process. So we're going to have different changes on an MRI. That's fine, and maybe it's part of your story. Maybe it's part of your pain journey, but it might be have been there prior to pain. So we can't just blame an MRI. We can't just blame an image when we don't know if that's new. We don't know if that's always been there, but what we can now start to do is say, Okay, what have I been neglecting? Am I super stressed? Am I not sleeping? Have I not been moving? Am I not am I maybe going to the gym, going hard, but I'm taking zero time for recovery? Am I always pushing to failure? Because that's what I hear I need to do now that I'm getting older, and I need a strength train, and I need to push my body to failure. But am I doing that every single time I go to the gym? Am I hearing, oh, I'm supposed to be doing these HIIT workouts in high intensity, because that's good for my bone health. But have I not progressed and eased my body into it? So all of these things, we have to start to take into account. Where have I what have I been neglecting? What am I not doing enough of that I can just at least start with the baseline level and say, Okay, thank you brain for alerting me that something needs to change. Thank you brain for telling me that enough is enough, and this isn't necessarily a bad thing, but what can I be doing that I'm neglecting and I can put myself on plenty examples as well. So, for example, my my second pregnancy, I felt all the things in my pelvis, lots of different changes with the hormones and different sensations that would pop up. I don't necessarily like to call it pain, but different sensations that my body was telling me about. And each of those experiences, I could then say, oh, I should not work out today. I should not lift that would be bad. And I did the opposite. And every time I moved in, not into the pain, but into opening up my hips more or loading in a different way. I still lifted weight, but I lifted differently. Maybe I'm not doing a barbell deadlift and going as heavy as I can, but I'm doing a controlled, a controlled deadlift with both legs and a wider stance so that I can open up through my hips and my pelvis a little bit more, and really use my breath to drive up and create that stability in my pelvis that I feel like I'm missing and I'm really needing. Maybe I can add some targeted lunges or step downs that really help to build support in my pelvis and my glutes so that I'm really supporting my body. Maybe I could do some different core things to really add in that stability that I know my body is going into more laxity, because I have a lot more relaxing within my body as I'm as I'm pregnant, and every single time I did movement instead of stopping, I felt better afterwards. Lesley Logan 14:35  Yeah, yeah. I mean, I believe I've never had children, but like, I have also, like, been so tight in my upper back because we do tours, and we're driving the van for the last tour was 36 days. And, you know, yes, I have a (inaudible), yes, we do all the things. Yes, I move my body, but you just, there's only so much you can do after 36 days of you know that? And I absolutely was, like, I should not have signed up for that workout. I probably shouldn't have done my Pilates, and I found myself every with every rolling like a ball, and every seal my thoracic spine just opening up, and it's like, oh, now I'm feel so much better. But it's true. It's like you might have to take a different approach, or you might have to and and we should and this is where that all or nothing mindset, I think, is affecting everybody. Like, it affects not just the way we deal with pain, but like, the way we get into workouts, the way we see if a workout is good or not. Like, it's not about doing what you did yesterday when you're pain free, but maybe going in slow or having a longer warm up, or being more intentional with your breath and then seeing how it's going. But I think it's, I mean, this is your life's mission. How do you get people to listen to their body?Dr. Jen Fraboni 15:44  I know it's hard. The first key is, let's not, let's not be afraid of pain. I mean, I think that that goes for everyone. Let's not be afraid of the MRI either, because we're going to have internal changes on on the body, and that's okay. My husband and I even just did a podcast yesterday on the straightening of the cervical spine, because everyone is afraid. Sometimes you'll go into an office and they'll do an x ray, they'll say, Oh, your your neck is straight. That's why you're getting neck pain. But we have so many studies that show people who have straight spines have no pain. So again, could it be a part of your story? Sure, is it the whole thing? No, because if there's someone out there who has a straight neck and no pain, that doesn't mean that you have a straight neck and pain, right, like that we have to be looking at things can be correlated. It doesn't mean it's the cause. Lesley Logan 16:34  Yeah, yeah. Dr. Jen Fraboni 16:36  And that's what I really want people to hear people who have disc herniations will show up on an MRI and not have pain. People who have osteoarthritis, 43% of people can have osteoarthritis on an MRI and have no pain. So again, not saying, not not discounting that that's a part of your body journey, but it's possible to be in that percentage of people who don't have pain. How do you get there? That's what we want to be focusing on. How do I get there? Right?Lesley Logan 17:03  Yeah. Oh, I love this. It's like, it's like, okay, so you, you, you might be someone with osteoporosis and pain, but the two of them might not actually be connected. It could be. But also, what if we take a moment to think about like, I have osteoporosis, but I also can explore other avenues that could reduce the pain? Dr. Jen Fraboni 17:20  Yes, yes, and it takes a mindset, a mind a mind shift. Lesley Logan 17:30  Yeah, mindset shift got it. Yes, no, it's okay. We'll do this together.Dr. Jen Fraboni 17:35  It takes shifting that mindset of what you're telling yourself and what is wrong and what is bad into saying, okay, what can I explore because of this? What can I do because of this? And that's where, okay, we have to say, if I'm rounding down to the floor and getting pain, what can I be doing that's different? Can, am I sitting a lot? Again, I can do myself as another example. Right now, actually, I am experiencing radiating symptoms into my right glute. So that means I'm I am feeling like a line of pain down into my glutes, sometimes a little further. So I know that's likely coming from my back. A nerve is sending some lightning signals into my glute. Now, I am fully exclusively breastfeeding right now, which means that I am sitting in positions a lot throughout the day where I'm rounded and on, like cuddling into my little babe as I'm breastfeeding, not always in the most ideal position, but kind of sitting like a little shrimp. And so majority of the day, I'm like that. And a lot of times for work, I am sitting at the computer and working. I try to get up, I try to take breaks, I do all the things, but I know that I'm neglecting some things. And so even the other the two days ago, when it really started, I would get out of bed and almost like it felt like my leg didn't want to hold me up. So it felt like it wasn't just nerve related, but it was now starting to affect how my muscles were responding as well. And so it can feel really scary, like, oh my gosh, just stepping out of bed, I'm going to collapse onto the floor, or I'm feeling as I'm rounding and picking up my son, I'm getting a lot of pain. That's bad. I should not deadlift, I should not bend my spine. I should not, you know, we could start telling ourselves, because this pattern equals pain, I shouldn't do this. Instead, I'm saying, Okay, what have I been neglecting? Now I'm spending a lot more time in extension. So if I'm on my phone, I'm going to lay on my couch and it prop my elbows and look at my phone that way. So I'm putting my spine in the opposite position that it's typically in throughout the day, and I'm spending time relaxing there and breathing there. I'm spending time opening up my hip flexors, opening up my rib cage, opening up tension relaxing through my front of my body, since I know that I'm spending a lot of time in that shrimp position. But on top of that, I have to create stability in a new way so my body feels safe. So I'm also adding in a lot of core stabilization. I'm adding in a lot of hip stability through my warm ups, and then I'm lifting, and I'm not shying away, because I'm listening and I'm modifying if I need to, but I'm lifting, and, and I still feel it a little bit today, but not as bad. And we also have to know that some things take time. There's no one magic fix. There's no one give me the one exercise for my for my disc herniation. I can't tell you that. It depends on what your body needs. What have you been neglecting? Are you neglecting your hip mobility? Are you neglecting your upper back mobility? Are you breathing from your rib cage? Are you stabilizing through your core? Are you, you know, can we move a little bit different in an exercise so that you can feel a little bit different? Can we change the range of motion? Can we change the load? There's so many aspects that we could be changing for you, it's hard to say what each individual needs. And at the same time, I just don't stop moving. The more that we stop moving, the more that your body's going to feel, because the one thing that helps us to feel better is getting fluids to move. Is getting our lymphatic system moving, is getting, you know, our even our blood going up to our brain, things. We want oxygen. We want things moving in our body so that we start to feel something different. Another thing I'm super neglecting is sleep. I know that's a huge, big thing for me. I'm staying up late so I could pump before I go to bed. Sometimes my son still wakes up. I wake up early. I'm burning at both ends from not sleeping enough. That's a huge contributor to pain. So we have to take into account other stressors in our life, and some things we can change. Some things are harder, but we have to get really honest with ourselves and say, what is it that I'm not doing that I could be doing for my body in general?Lesley Logan 22:13  Yeah, so Jen, I love this because, like, first of all, I appreciate you sharing your stories, because I always what I get a lot, especially since and I think it's because people can say it and I don't. I can't really argue. I don't have children. You have two kids, one of them whom you're nursing. And like, the thing that I always say is, like, if you like, have a newborn, like, you obviously have to take care of the newborn. But also, like, none of us are good to anyone sick or in pain like zero. I truly believe that self-care is an act of self-love. I will die on this hill. And I really don't think you can love others as as generously as you want if you don't love yourself that way. And so, but also, you're in a very different season in your motherhood journey, where you are breastfeeding, and so I guess, like for the moms listening, or the people who are like really trying, who put so many other people's lives before themselves, like, how do you do that? Because I know you have the mom guilt. They gave it to you when you had the kids. So like, how do you how? Like, yes, it's your job, but also, like, you're a human being. How do you keep that all going?Dr. Jen Fraboni 23:17  So I'm very fortunate to have support. We have support. I could be on this podcast, because we have support, right? So my husband and I can work during the day, and we have people watching our children, and so we're very grateful for that. I have to acknowledge that, right? And within that time period, I take 30 minutes out of where I would be working to work out. 30 minutes. It doesn't have to be a lot of time when we do it efficiently and we learn what we need for our individual body. I also, because I talked about the sleep thing, and that's lacking for me, my accountability and motivation not very high right now, to show up for myself, and I know that for myself right now. So the number one thing I I'm doing right now is I met someone actually on a mom app called Peanut and she comes and works out with me before she goes and picks up her after her work day, and before she picks up her son from daycare, and we work out together. And I know she's coming at the same time almost every day, and she is like, if she's showing up, I'm obviously showing up, and we're doing that 30 minute workout together, and I have that accountability to get off my butt and do it, because I can just, Oh, I'll eat a little bit more, I'll work a little bit more, I'll do a little you know, I can make up all the excuses because I'm tired and I get it, I'm in it, like, I don't want to do it either, but I do want to do it because it's going to make me feel so much better after. So I think understanding what is it that you need. We know, I think we know by now that motivation isn't the thing that's going to get us to move, right? We know this, but what is the thing that's going to get you to move? Is that the accountability? I've also told myself I need to be moving a little bit more. So my accountability also is, I am posting every morning that I'm taking a walk. And I asked other people who wants to join me take a walk, I'm going to post every morning that I'm taking a walk. That's my accountability. If I don't post. You know, I didn't walk, and so I'm I'm showing up on stories and just saying, got my morning walk in 10 to 15 minutes. It doesn't have to be long, right? I throw my kids in a stroller and I go for a walk. So what is it that we can be doing that creates that, that deeper accountability? Again, it doesn't have to be a long time, even if you're like, I don't have 30 minutes. Okay, do you have five to 10 minutes. Can you use your your kid and do a couple lunges and squats with them? Trust me, kids love to be used as weights. It's super fun for them. What is the thing that we could be doing? I do my mobility on the floor in the playroom when they're moving around. So there's always a time. Yeah, it's just, how are we creating that space within our life to to commit? Lesley Logan 26:05  Yeah, I You're so right during the pandemic. I studied with BJ Fogg and his team, his the author of Tiny Habits and Stanford science, like behavioral sciences on habits like be the person, right? And he literally said, motivation is the friend you want to go to a party, but you never have them pick you up at the airport. It's unreliable, and then and it's like, just when you think about that, whenever I hear people I don't have enough motivation. I'm like, like, motivation is what you need to, like, push them up a hill real quick, but like, you can't. It's not the thing. And so the other thing that I know from Habits is how we talk to ourselves about something actually, is why where the brain starts to look for opportunities. So I, because I because I know how good I'll feel right and I know what that's gonna do. My brain is like, oh, oh, I could go. I could do this movement here. I have 30 extra minutes I could do. I'm like, seeking out little increments in a busy season, because my brain knows you're gonna get a dopamine hit if you do this here. But if, whenever you think about the things you should be doing in a negative way, oh, I should be moving more. I should be exercising more, and you put all this shit on yourself and this pressure, it stresses your brain. Your brain goes, oh, working out, moving my body, that causes stress, shame, guilt. I don't like to feel that. So you actually don't look for those things. We have to actually trick our brain into seeing opportunities for movement. And so I love that you shared all these different ways, and also what you're using right now, because it's going to be different from for all of us, depending on where our seasons are, depending if you're traveling or not, but it doesn't I am so with you. It does not have to be an hour chunk at one time, like that is a luxury a lot of people don't have, and you might have it one day a week, but not other days a week. And I'm just a big fan of, like, someone always asked me, like, how often should I do Pilates? And I'm like, I'd rather do four 15-minute sessions in a week than one one-hour like, I just would. It's just going to have way more benefits. So I appreciate you talking about the different minutes, and also, like what you're doing right now in your seasons, because it, it does help people start to think, Oh, I could do that, oh I could do 15 minutes. Oh I could pick my kid up, or I could go for a walk with a friend. I have a neighbor who would walk with me every morning, if I would, if I would get up a little later, and I'm like, this is too hot for me right now. So, so. But you know what? If that's if you are someone who needs someone, you're not sure so you can rely on someone, I promise you, get a dog teach him for two weeks to go for a walk in the morning, they will wake you up. They're, my dog knows what time it is. He knows it's time for a walk. So. Dr. Jen Fraboni 26:06  I love that. Lesley Logan 26:41  Okay, so you know this is an incredible journey that you are going on, and what you've been and the gifts that you've been giving people like you've been doing this a really long time. What are you excited about right now? Like, where are you taking this? Where are you taking, like, your education, helping people with their pain?Dr. Jen Fraboni 28:50  You know, my number one thing is to provide ways right now as to okay, if this hurts, how can we do it different? So the number one thing people always tell me when they go through my courses and my plans and everything is that the way UQ lit up, something in my brain that told me I can do it, something different, and I felt completely different, no knee pain, no back pain, because I did, you know, and so doing some of these common things a little bit more uncommon, A little bit different than maybe what you've been told or what you've seen or what you've done in the past can make a huge impact, so that you continue to move forward and you feel better within your body. I think I've grown because people know me as mobility. People know me as but the problem with that is that people believe that stretching and just passive stretching, and it's so not and so sometimes, you know, I even have family members here. Like the other day, my niece is like, going for cheer right now, and she said, Oh, this area within my inner thigh, so, like her groin area was hurting and I was doing a lot of stretching, and I'm like, why are you stretching it? Don't stretch it. Not bad. I don't wanna say it's bad, but it's not gonna be helpful when she needs to be active in her sport in order to get back to what she wants to do. And so a lot of times, we need either active stretching or we need isometric hold. We need strengthening. We need stability within the body. Again, remember that when we have pain, our body wants to feel safe. So a lot of times, stretching though it can feel good, it can feel relaxing, it can help to temporarily reduce pain symptoms. A lot of times, it's not the thing that's going to help the body to feel secure and safe moving forward. And so what we need is great stability. Pilates is great at creating stability. Pilates is great at teaching the body some safety. So a lot of times in those initial phases, especially getting more stability, more isometric holds, more higher reps, lower weight, that kind of thing is going to be better in in the very beginning stages, when we're feeling that pain and creating that safety for the body, before we start loading more, or before we start doing it, or before we start doing really aggressive stretches. I don't even know. I think I went off on a tangent.Lesley Logan 31:15  It's okay, you're clear. I asked what you're excited about right now, and that's it.Dr. Jen Fraboni 31:20  Yes, yes. Continuing to educate people on on a different way to move their body and hopefully get out of pain. I just, I want to stick with pain, and some people tell me that's limiting and and I, I know, but so many people experience pain, and if I could just teach people how to listen to their body a little differently and not fear pain, I that that would be such a gift.Lesley Logan 31:40  I mean, it's really funny what people like to say, like, they like to say, oh, you can't, can't just do that, or that's really limiting, or whatever it is. Like, you know, this particular week that we're recording this, like, I gotta be in my bonnet because somebody, like, said, like, oh, like, someone just commented negatively on one of my Pilates instructors who works for me, and about their their body. Well, I can see that Pilates is really working. Pilate is really working for your for your body, and to something nasty, right? And I got so pissed about it. And then, like, and then I was like, while we're on the topic, there's also no such thing as Pilates arms, right? Like, there's just that's like, if you, like, I don't even want to say, have arms and do Pilates, because there you could do Pilates without arms. Like, you don't even have to have arms. So it's like, not a thing, right? Like, and so and so, it's like, it goes to where this tangent is going from my brain. It's like, people like to put things in boxes and then, and then, that's what it is for. That's what it does. And like, as, if you focusing on pain is so limiting. When pain is like, it is such a, like, I'm like, we could go to so many places, because there's people who like, literally, like, I have a family member in my life every day, something is in pain. I'm like, you are using pain to keep yourself from experiencing life, you know? And then there's also the other spectrum, where it's like, people who won't listen to it at all. You're like, I just want you to like, we don't do, yeah, I can see, like, you shouldn't do that anymore, so, but I so, I think it's really interesting how we people want to put boxes around things. And there, I don't say they're being a boxer, and I do think that, like, we know a lot more about stuff. Like, it used to be like, Oh, if that hurts, don't do anything, as if that's, you know, and I would watch clients whose doctors, like, you can't do anything with that. And I'm like, Okay, so now your foot has changed. Like, now that we haven't used it anymore, it's no longer, like, you have hammer toes now it's doing this thing. It's sickling. Like, can we go back to the doctor and ask for some other things we can do? Because, like, even though that's my scope, like, that foot is not helping. Now your hip's going weaker, and now your back is having problems. So I think we know a lot more now, and I'm really excited for what you're doing, because it does, it does give people a little bit more opportunities to change things before it gets to be something that can't be changed anymore. Am I right like?Dr. Jen Fraboni 33:55  I hope so that's the number one thing that boils my blood is whenever I would have a client come back and said, Oh, my doctor told me not to do that anymore, or not to do this anymore. And it's like, well, the more we don't use it, we lose it. So if, if you want to become fragile, if you want to, you know, age and be in more pain, then that's an option, but I hope that's not what you want, you know. And when it comes to joint health, the if your joints start to go which they are, that's part of aging, right? We're going to start to lose cartilage. They're going to start to wear and tear. That's, I hate that word, but it's true. I mean, we're, we're, they're going to change. It's part of aging. The only thing that is going to support you as those changes are happening, is muscle and being strong and having range of motion and mobility within your body. Yeah, if you don't have the mobility to move into those areas anymore, they're going to get stiffer and tighter. If you don't have the muscle strength to support it, your joints don't have any more room or cushion to support them themselves. So. What's going to happen? You're going to be in more pain, and you're not going to be able to do more things. If we stop moving and to our full ranges of motion, if we stop strengthening throughout our range of motion and and putting that tension across the tendons and the muscles and loading the joints, then we're going to end up in more pain.Lesley Logan 35:23  Yeah, yeah, yeah, you are. And this is not to knock, like, what some of the doctors say, because, like, I also think they're in a practice and they're operating on some interesting information. But I definitely would laugh when someone come and go, I'm not allowed to flex or extend my spine. And I'm like, how did you drive here today? Like, how did we how do we get here? And I just want you to notice that while you take your shoes off right now, you're in flexion. So can I, can I maybe get some permission to move you in a safe way, in those positions so that we can keep them? Yeah, I think that's that's like, thank goodness for you and the work that you're doing, and you do it in a way that actually makes people excited to think about their bodies. And I think that's so beautiful, because it's really hard to do in a world where people want a quick fix, they want the five in five days how do I get out of this? And it's like, Well, you probably didn't get into it. And I just really want to highlight, like, your your focus on like, what are all the other things we could be listening to, you know? And I think that that is something that, as you know, majority of the listeners on this show are women, and there's a few good men, but especially as women, especially as women, like we, tend to it starts with the sleep, and then it starts with the fueling of the food, and then it starts with lack of water. And then, you know, all of us, it's like it's a slow thing, and it's like there are some things we could actually maybe take a look at and be a little bit more priority based on those, even if we don't have time, and see how that affects the rest of our bodies. Dr. Jen Fraboni 36:41  1,000% Lesley Logan 36:43  Yeah, I really want to, like, talk to you for hours, but we're gonna take a brief break, and we're gonna find out how people can find you, follow you and work with you. Lesley Logan 36:49  All right, Docjenfit, where do you hang out? Where is your favorite place for people to connect with you, work with you. Do you have any programs that they can look into if they're interested in this?Dr. Jen Fraboni 37:00  Yeah. I mean the number one place, I check my DMs all the time. It's me, so docjenfit on Instagram is my number one place I hang out. I do upload Tiktok as well, but I don't check Tiktok, so don't try to reach out to me there. YouTube, I do look at comments there, so I get back to everyone there, but I feel like my community is on Instagram, and that's where I started. That's where everything is. So connect with me there if you have any questions, and I have Jen Health. So jen.health, there's no dot com or anything, or also look up the app Jen Health. And if you ever wanted to find something rather than scrolling my Instagram, you can go sign up on Jen Health. It's completely free to sign up. And we have a Discover tab where you can literally type in knee pain or knee and stairs or like low back pain or bending, or whatever it is that you want to and there's going to be something that pops up that can help you. Those are essentially my Instagram searchable. So all my recent posts always get uploaded there, and you can search freely as needed. We also have programs on there so that you're not just looking for a quick fix within those couple exercises that may or may not help, but you're the programs I created, because I'm not individually with you, but my low back plan, (inaudible) plan, is all about like, Okay, let's take a look at the entire system here and how it all can work into helping to improve and reduce low back pain. We're talking mobility stability from the ground up. We're talking strengthening progressively into the body and really building in key areas that are often neglected in five to 15 minutes a day. I'm not trying to take you away from your other workouts or your other life responsibilities, I'm trying to just sprinkle things in little by little, so that you are starting to introduce something different that you might have been neglecting in your body. I love all that that's so helpful. Lesley Logan 37:00  And I think it's really cool, because when people can take some ownership and explore and like also understand, I think the more we understand our body, the easier it is for us to actually like, communicate about what's going on with it, and also advocate for ourselves. If you do need to go see a doctor and they do tell you things, you can go you can advocate for or against or get a second opinion. You can have a lot more authority of yourself when those things do come up. So you're just so wonderful. Thank you for that. Okay, you have given us a lot already, but bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it, what do you have for us?Dr. Jen Fraboni 38:14  Everyday take a breath in to the sides of your rib cage, like not, not into your shoulders, not into your neck, not into your chest. Take a breath and think of closing your mouth, taking your breath, as if your breath is pulling back into your nasal cavity and expanding across your ribs. Sometimes I like to just take my hands on my rib cage, take five deep, long, slow breaths there. You're going to see how pain just starts to diminish. Stress starts to diminish. Things start to feel better within your body. And the only way that we start to know how to move forward is if we tune in first.Lesley Logan 40:00  Oh, my goodness. I love that. I love that so much. That's literally how I like people to breathe when they're in my classes. I just feel like I'm like, Ah, so much validation. I'm obsessed with you. Can you come around the world with me? Anyways, you're just, thank you so much, Jen, just for being you and what you do in this world, and also just being so authentic about how you're on this journey as a human being, so that everyone can also be on that journey with you, but also so that people can be empowered. I'm really, really grateful for you and all these amazing tips. Lesley Logan 40:28  Be It babes, how are going to use these tips in your life? I highly recommend following Docjenfit on Instagram. Make sure you tell her. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it, you know that friend who's always got something going on like just share it with them, because maybe they just need to hear from a different person that it doesn't have to always be what it is, doesn't have to be limiting. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 40:48  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 41:30  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 41:36  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 41:40  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 41:47  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 41:51  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Mother's day just passed and I thought this would be the perfect time to talk about something a lot of women deal with, especially after having kids: pelvic floor dysfunction. I invited Dr. Brianne Grogan, Physical Therapist and Pelvic Care Expert, to talk about the intricate relationship between trauma, stress, and pelvic floor health. I loved this conversation with Dr. Bri because she not only delves into practical techniques for pelvic floor release, sharing insights on effective cues for yoga teachers to enhance awareness and how to reconnect with the pelvic floor, but she also emphasizes the importance of understanding the pelvic area as a site of emotional storage and energetic power. Listen in as we explore how:

Gina sits down with Dr. Jen Fraboni, PT, DPT, FRCms, known as DocJenFit on social media. Dr. Jen, a physical therapist and mom of 2, discusses the significance of mobility, the fallacy of the 'perfect posture,' and how varying positions can benefit individuals, especially during pregnancy and postpartum. The conversation extends into addressing myths related to movement and posture, advocating for tailored fitness and mobility programs to ensure overall well-being. Dr. Jen also shares her personal experiences with pregnancy and the nuances of preparing for a vaginal birth after Cesarean (VBAC). The episode strives to empower listeners to relax and adopt a fluid approach to posture and movement for a more comfortable and confident pregnancy, birth, and postpartum journey.Find Dr. Jen on social media: @DocJenFitWebsites: https://www.docjenfit.com/theoptimalbody/https://jen.health/00:00 Introduction to the MamasteFit Podcast01:19 Meet Dr. Jen Fraboni (DocJenFit)02:30 Debunking the Myth of Perfect Posture04:27 The Importance of Movement and Mobility07:47 Posture and Pregnancy: Myths and Realities16:09 Mobility and Stability: A Balanced Approach23:24 Personal Experiences and Insights on Pregnancy36:07 The Role of Mental Preparation in Birth45:40 Conclusion and Resources——————————Get Your Copy of Training for Two on Amazon: https://amzn.to/3VOTdwH

Dr. Jen Fraboni, PT, DPT, is an internationally-renowned physical therapist who specializes in helping people overcome chronic pain and maximize physical performance. As the founder of the new platform and app, “Jen.Health,” she brings a unique, whole body approach to strength, mobility and pain-free living.  Dr. Jen is the co-host with her husband, who is also a Doctor of Physical Therapy, to a popular podcast called "The Optimal Body Podcast.” They live in Southern California with their two beautiful boys. She shares her own VBAC story with a failure to progress diagnosis with her 7-pound first baby, and an unmedicated VBAC with her 9-pound second baby! Though she had some postpartum complications, Dr. Jen says that her VBAC was absolutely worth it and so empowering. Dr. Jen also teaches us all about the pelvic floor and how pelvic floor PT can help a smoother and more effective pushing phase!Dr. Jen's WebsiteNeeded Website: Code VBAC20 for 20% OffHow to VBAC: The Ultimate Prep Course for ParentsSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-vbac-link/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

When did we get disconnected from the body? Today I want to explore the historical context of body-based spirituality. We'll contrast traditional yoga's focus on enlightenment with somatic yoga's emphasis on healing and grounding. We'll analyze how Catholicism and Tantra might be viewed as more embodied spiritual practices, compared to Protestantism and The 8 Limbs of yoga. Let's nerd out on the significance of engaging the five senses in the healing process, the need for safe spaces in somatic practices, and the future potential of somatic work in personal healing and coaching. Listen and learn:

If you feel older than you actually are, suffer with body aches, or just feel stiff in general... you need mobility. In today's episode with Dr. Jen Fraboni, we discuss why mobility is an absolute must for anyone wanting to live a long and healthy life. Dr. Jen debunks common mobility myths, breaks down WHY it's so important, and shares easy tips for incorporating it in your daily routine. Dr. Jen Fraboni, PT, DPT, is an internationally-renowned physical therapist and host of the The Optimal Body Podcast who specializes in helping people overcome chronic pain and maximize physical performance and brings a unique, whole body approach to strength, mobility and pain-free living.Episode Highlights: Why you need mobility Debunking common mobility myths How breathing can boost mobility + reduce stress Training full range of motion for longevity Exercises to improve joint health How to incorporate mobility into your daily routine Take up space in a powerful fitness community.Try Broads for 7 days free and surprise yourself with what's possible.Are you ready to uplevel your health & fitness with Legion?  Use code TaraTalk for 20% off your first order and double loyalty cash back any order after that when you shop at LegionAthletics.comIf this episode resonated please leave a rate & review and share with friends! Your support means so much! Watch the episode on YouTube HERE. You can learn more about Dr. Jen at @docjenfitFollow along on @taralaferrara for no BS fitness + life advice. Follow along on @thetaratalk for episode updates and extra content. Sign up for the newsletter HERE and never miss an update!

Dr. Jen Fraboni, a renowned physical therapist and social media influencer, joins the show to discuss her unconventional journey in healthcare and personal branding. Dr. Jen shares how she shifted from traditional physical therapy to creating a thriving cash-based practice and a significant social media presence. She dives into the challenges of overcoming industry norms and the importance of addressing her audience's needs to build trust and engagement online. Her emphasis on delivering educational content in an accessible way has helped her establish a strong following, turning her passion for physical therapy into a global platform.Throughout the conversation, Dr. Jen highlights key lessons about staying authentic, consistent, and purposeful in content creation. She reflects on overcoming imposter syndrome and simplifying complex concepts to resonate with a broader audience, which has been vital in her success. The episode also touches on how Dr. Jen built a community by meeting people where they are, focusing on their needs rather than industry expectations, and how consistency and genuine passion can create a lasting impact in both business and personal growth.CHAPTER TITLES3:04 - Overcoming Industry Norms: Shifting Perspectives 4:20 - Cultivating Social Media Through Audience Needs 5:35 - Welcome to Living the Red Life: A New Approach 7:53 - Turning Passion Into a Powerful Brand 9:16 - Dr. Jen's Journey: From Physical Therapy to Global Impact 10:22 - Breaking Into Business: From Social Media to Cash-Based Programs 12:25 - The Power of Consistency in Content Creation 14:10 - Overcoming Imposter Syndrome in Social Media 15:07 - Simplifying Complex Concepts for Mass Appeal 17:04 - Building Community: Meeting People Where They AreConnect with Dr Jen Fraboni:IG - DocjenfitWEBSITE - Jen.healthConnect with Rudy Mawer:LinkedInInstagramFacebookTwitter

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, co-hosts Doc Jen and Doctor Dom, both doctors of physical therapy, explore the common issue of shin splints, or medial tibial stress syndrome, prevalent among runners and those engaged in high-impact activities. They emphasize the importance of foot health, the benefits of barefoot shoes like Vivo Barefoot, and the necessity of maintaining strong muscles in the feet, ankles, and lower legs. Key points include understanding shin splints, load management, strengthening exercises, the importance of cross-training, seeking professional guidance, and preventive strategies. They also introduce a barefoot mini-course for improving foot and ankle health. VivoBarefoot Discount: We cannot talk about back issues without talking about restrictions in feet and ankles. Improve your foot and ankle health and therefore everything up the chain by wearing ⁠VivoBareoot shoes⁠ to improve the mobility and strength in your toes, feet, and ankles. There's one for every occasion, including weddings, hiking, a grocery walk and casual wear, or shoes for your active lifestyle. Use code "TOB20" to get 20% off your ⁠VivoBarefoot Shoes⁠! **Vivo offers a 100-Day trial period. If you are not completely satisfied, you can send the shoes back and get a refund. Needed Discount: Although the journey of pregnancy is so personal and individual, Jen's number one question goes back to what she did to help her conceive and maintain the pregnancy. While there were a myriad of factors that contributed, she reliably counted on Needed supplements that supported her journey! Men need support as well via sperm support and men multivitamins. while women are supported by egg quality supplementation, CoQ10, prenatal Omega 3, iron, and choline in tablet or powder form. Used by over 4000 health professionals, Needed is available to support pregnancy, fertility, and postpartum, as well as women's and men's health in general. Check out needed if you know there's a gap in your nutrition via code ⁠⁠OPTIMAL⁠⁠ for 20% off. Barefoot Mini-Course: Tired of foot pain? Join Dr. Jen Fraboni's Barefoot Mini Course for quick 10-minute videos on foot health. Learn exercises to prevent issues like plantar fasciitis and bunions. Sign up today for happier, healthier feet! We think you'll love: Get A Free Week on Jen Health! Barefoot Mini Course Jen's Instagram Dom's Instagram YouTube Channel What will you learn from this PT Pearl: 00:29 - Importance of Foot Health 01:10 - Physical Therapy Pearl on Shin Splints 02:17 - Distinguishing Shin Splints 03:24 - Common Causes of Shin Pain 04:26 - Support During Pregnancy 07:33 - Risk Factors for Shin Splints 09:15 - Additional Risk Factors in Runners 10:25 - Footwear Considerations 11:16 - Theories Behind Shin Pain 12:23 - Symptoms and Assessment 14:04 - Gradual Loading and Exercise 15:05 - Barefoot Mini Course 16:56 - Rebuilding Strength for Shin Splints 17:01 - Calf Raises and Gait Mechanics 18:03 - Awareness of Foot Pronation 19:03 - Strengthening the Bottom of the Foot 19:14 - Hip Strengthening for Runners 21:04 - Comprehensive Lower Leg Training 21:27 - Professional Guidance for Injury Prevention To learn more about this episode⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠and view full show notes, please visit the full website here:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://jen.health/podcast/374 Thank you so much for checking out this episode of The Optimal Body Podcast. If you haven't done so already, please take a minute to⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ subscribe⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and leave a quick rating and review of the show!

Today, let's explore the difference between traditional yoga and somatic yoga. While traditional yoga focuses on alignment, somatic yoga allows you to process and deeply feel your emotions. I will never tell you not to do a traditional yoga class, There is an incredible amount of value there and I have so much love for yogic tradition. But, I would like to encourage you to bring more somatic movement into your practice. Let's discuss:

Somatic practices have become increasingly popular in recent months. You've probably seen something on social media about using somatics to release stored trauma and heal your body. Today we are talking about Somatic Yoga - or what I like to call Embodied Yoga. This amazing practice is all about unlocking your body's natural intelligence and creating a self guided solution to healing habitual bracing patterns. Listen to learn the difference between traditional and somatic/embodied yoga in addition to:

Today we talk with @DocJenFit on all things mobility, breath work, and the importance of fusing that with your strength training for women over 40.

So excited to bring you this conversation with Dr. Jen Fraboni (aka @DocJenFit)!Jen has been a pioneer for physical therapists in the online space and finding new ways to connect and serve our people.  We talk clinical philosophy, her journey from treating patients in the clinic to online mogul, the joys and challenges of motherhood while running a business, how to work with your significant other, and more!Absolutely love Jen's perspective on our field and how she's expanding our vision of what a physical therapist can do.  Don't miss this one!Dr. Jen FraboniMake sure to follow Jen at (@DocJenFit) and check out all of her patient-centered material and content at www.jen.health!Accelerator Cohort #3If you're looking to take your business to the next level by the end of 2024, make sure to get on the wait list for Cohort #3 of our Accelerator Program (www.pelvicptrising.com/accelerator).  It starts in June and is the six-month coaching intensive to transform your business.About UsNicole and Jesse Cozean founded Pelvic PT Rising to provide clinical and business resources to physical therapists to change the way we treat pelvic health.   PelvicSanity Physical Therapy (www.pelvicsanity.com) together in 2016.  It grew quickly into one of the largest cash-based physical therapy practices in the country.Through Pelvic PT Rising, Nicole has created clinical courses (www.pelvicptrising.com/clinical) to help pelvic health providers gain confidence in their skills and provide frameworks to get better patient outcomes.  Together, Jesse and Nicole have helped 500+ pelvic practices start and grow through the Pelvic PT Rising Business Programs (www.pelvicptrising.com/business) to build a practice that works for them!  Get in Touch!Learn more at www.pelvicptrising.com, follow Nicole @nicolecozeandpt (www.instagram.com/nicolecozeandpt) or reach out via email (nicole@pelvicsanity.com).Check out our Clinical Courses, Business Resources and learn more about us at Pelvic PT Rising...Let's Continue to Rise!

Dr. Jen Fraboni, PT, DPT joins me today as we delve into the inner workings of her online education and business, her passion for advocating pelvic health, the challenges and triumphs encountered while navigating pregnancy and postpartum, and her gratitude for feeling strong and how it benefited her life. Find Doc Jen on Instagram at @docjenfitness. Pregnant? My training program for pregnancy is here: briannabattles.com/pregnant-athlete Postpartum? My 8-week postpartum athlete training program is here: https://www.briannabattles.com/8weeks   MORE ABOUT THE SHOW: The Practice Brave podcast brings you the relatable, trustworthy and transparent health & fitness information you're looking for when it comes to coaching, being coached and transitioning through the variables of motherhood and womanhood. You will learn from athletes and experts in the women's health and coaching/performance realm as they share their knowledge and experience on all things Pregnancy & Postpartum Athleticism. Whether you're a newly pregnant athlete or postpartum athlete, knowing how to adjust your workouts, mental approach and coaching can be confusing. Each week we'll be tackling questions around adjusting your workouts and mindset, diastasis recti, pelvic health, mental health, identity, and beyond. Through compelling interviews and solo shows, Brianna speaks directly to where you're at because she's been there too! Tune in every other week and share the show with your athlete friends!

Too many women live with some form of chronic pain, and have just written it off as “normal”. They deal with it, work around it, try to medicate it, and ultimately believe that this is how their body is now. But what if I told you it didn't have to be this way? This week I sit down with Dr. Jen Fraboni, an internationally-renown physical therapist who specializes in helping people overcome chronic pain and maximize physical performance. In 2019, Jen was named one of the top 50 most influential healthcare professionals and she currently co-hosts "The Optimal Body Podcast”, with her husband, who is also a Doctor of Physical Therapy. Listen in as we discuss: The dangers of not dealing with your pain Sciatica and SI joint pain - how are they different and how to deal with them Something everyone should be doing to help reduce overall pain If you or someone you love is dealing with chronic pain - especially sciatica or SI joint pain - then don't miss this important episode. It just might provide the answers and relief you need. More Resources & Links Jen.health Jen's NEW Pelvic Floor Program: jen.health/pelvicfloor Listen to Jen's Optimal Body Podcast Need help getting started with good, functional core training? Grab Megan's FREE 5-Day Core Tune Up here! Follow Jen on Instagram Follow Megan on Instagram

Follow us on Instagram and TikTok! Podcast: @growordiepodcast Justin Mihaly: @jmihaly_ Dr. Domenic Fraboni: @drdompt Dr. Jen Fraboni: @docjenfit Check out GoD's sister podcast BEcoming RELENTLESS by Noa McCabe and Danielle Kusenberger and learn how to become relentless in all of your pursuits!

You love yoga, but every modality has limitations. Does yoga provide everything we need for optimal health and graceful aging? Let's investigate… Today, I interview my friend Dr. Jen Fraboni (who you may know as the infamous @DocJenFit on Instagram) about yoga's potential shortcomings. Not only do we dissect yoga's pitfalls, we tell you exactly how to mitigate them for a pain-free active lifestyle. Learn:

Dom's Bio:Domenic Fraboni is a Doctor of Physical Therapy and COO of The Mobility Method LLC. He earned his Doctorate in Physical Therapy from Mayo Clinic School of Health Sciences in Rochester, MN in 2018. He is a member of the American Physical Therapy Association (APTA) and regularly lobbies on behalf of MN and CA for increased reimbursement for preventative and rehabilitative care. For the past decade, Domenic has been an avid coach, unified partner, and volunteer coordinator for Special Olympics, and has assisted in coordinating events nationally for the NCAA and APTA. Since 2020, Domenic has acted as the Chief Operations Officer for The Mobility Method LLC where he is helping to create access to good, reliable, and affordable health and rehab information to all people through development of the Jen Health Platform. Domenic believes that true human healing happens through empowering individuals to independence in their health and wellness journey. As COO of The Mobility Method LLC and co-host of The Optimal Body Podcast (with his wife Dr Jen Fraboni), he always hopes to continue to get this message of empowerment out to the masses.Dr Domenic Fraboni PT DPT Jen's BioDr. Jen Fraboni, PT, DPT, is an internationally-renowned physical therapist who specializes in helping people overcome chronic pain and maximize physical performance. As the founder of the new platform and app, “Jen.Health,” she brings a unique, whole body approach to strength, mobility and pain-free living. In 2019, Jen was named one of the top 50 most influential healthcare professionals. Jen's easily accessible approach has garnered her more than half a million followers on social media and millions of views of her health and fitness videos. Jen has been featured in Shape Magazine, Self Magazine, Men's Fitness and Muscle and Fitness and in 2020, graced the cover of Oxygen Magazine. During the pandemic, she helped ease back pain with her feature on Good Morning America and NBC. Dr. Jen is the co-host with her husband, who is also a Doctor of Physical Therapy, to a popular podcast called "The Optimal Body Podcast.” 

Dr. Jen Fraboni, PT, DPT, is an internationally-renowned physical therapist who specializes in helping people overcome chronic pain and maximize physical performance. She's also a c-section mom herself who understands gaps in c-section recovery. In this episode we cover it all from how to prepare for a c-section (even if you aren't planning on having one), what to expect after having a c-section, best practice for early rehab, mobilizing your scar, and scar massage. Jen shares her personal journey and easy to follow advice for fellow cesarean moms. Check out Jen's free postpartum guide for cesarean births here: https://docjenfit.com/postpartum    Dr. Jen Shares: The biggest gaps in cesarean recovery When to start recovery Jen's own cesarean recovery journey Things you can do to prepare for a cesarean How to find the right amount of movement after a cesarean birth C-section shelf - what to do about it When and how to start mobilizing the scar How to practice scar massages Getting back to movement safely The healing journey and how it looks different for everyone Show Notes:  For more of Jen, please visit Instagram.com/docjenfit on Instagram and https://jen.health on the Web For more of We Go There Podcast, please visit instagram.com/wegotherepodcast on Instagram and wegotherepodcast.com on the Web *Warning- this podcast is completely unfiltered. If you are around young children, we suggest headphones.*

Today I speak with Dr. Jen Fraboni, PT, DPT, and Dr. Dom Fraboni, DPT, CSCS. Together, they co-host The Optimal Body Podcast.  Dr. Jen is an internationally-renown physical therapist who specializes in helping people overcome chronic pain and maximize physical performance. As the founder of the new platform and app, “Jen.Health,” she brings a unique, whole body approach to strength, mobility and pain-free living.  Dr. Dom is an active advocate for the advance of national healthcare quality and access to care in the USA. He was an avid coach, unified partner, and volunteer coordinator for Special Olympics, assisting in coordinating events nationally for NCAA and APTA. Domenic believes that true human healing happens through empowering individuals to independence in their journey.  We talk about: -authenticity on social media -changing birth plans -realities of postpartum -finding yourself postpartum -experiencing postpartum as a physical therapist -sharing information -doing what you can with what you have -actionable and easy workouts  Time Stamps 1:00 introduction 4:45 being open on social media 8:11 expectations of early postpartum 14:20 returning to exercise after baby 17:01 changing standards of practice 24:52 gaps in the available information 29:45 challenges getting in workouts with a newborn 36:30 planning ahead for workouts 40:19 rapid fire questions  CONNECT WITH CARRIE IG: https://www.instagram.com/carriepagliano/ Website: https://carriepagliano.com  CONNECT WITH JEN & DOM IG: https://www.instagram.com/docjenfit/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/drdomdpt/ Website: https://Jen.health https://Jen.health/freetrial Physical therapy in your back pocket with 11 plans, 3 courses and endless quick tips. The Active Mom Postpartum Podcast is A Real Moms' Guide to Postpartum for active moms & the postpartum professionals who help them in their journey. This show has been a long time in the making! You can expect conversation with moms and postpartum professionals from all aspects of the industry. If you're like me, you don't have a lot of free time (heck, you're probably listening at 1.5x speed), so theses interviews will be quick hits to get your the pertinent information FAST! If you love what you hear, share the podcast with a friend and leave us a 5 start rating and review. It helps us become more visible in the search algorithm! (Helps us get seen by more moms that need to hear these stories!!!!)

This week on the LBLB podcast, our guest Carli Jo Hobson is about to take y'all busy mommies and daddies to church! Carli Jo is a biz owner, nutrition coach, wife, and mother of 2 who joins us today to share how she balances all the challenges that come with being a busy parent of 2, while still prioritizing her personal health and fitness.Enjoy Episode #11 Balancing & Prioritizing Health/Fitness As A Busy Parent with Carli HobsonDownload Free Workouts From Paragon Training Methods: HereGet Started w/ A Training Program From Paragon Training Methods: HereApply for 1:1 Nutrition Coaching w/ Alex: HereTimestamps:00:00 Carli´s Background02:59 Carli´s Exposure To Living A Healthy Life07:20 Why Carli Joined Paragon Training Methods08:09 The Cost Of A Child (Yikes!)10:41 Life With Children13:10 Carli´s Pregnancy & The Recovery Process18:13 Game Changing Post-Pregnancy Advice20:48 People Judge Mothers!23:14 Being Mindful & Conscious As A New Parent28:02 Nutrition & Marriage31:22 Nutrition Advice For Parenting Young Kids42:18 How Much Money Spends Carli Shopping For Food45:06 What Do Night Outs Looks Like?48:16 Planning Meals For Busy Work Days50:16 Carli´s Social Life (Time For Friends?)52:15 Carli´s Thyroid Issues01:00:00 Access To Doctors When Living In Small Towns01:06:31 Keeping Nutrition A Priority When Work Gets CRAZY!01:08:41 Best Practices For Family Training01:13:58 Body Changes After Having A Second Child1:25:45 Best Accounts To Follow As A MomAwesome Moms to Follow on IG:Kate Lyman: https://www.instagram.com/klnutrition/Jen Fraboni: https://www.instagram.com/docjenfit/Annie Miller: https://www.instagram.com/anniemiller.co/Joelle Samantha: https://www.instagram.com/joellesamantha/Alessandra Scutnik: https://www.instagram.com/alessandrascutnik/Pregnancy/Postpartum Accounts We Love:The Mint Prjct: https://www.instagram.com/themintprjct/The Girls Gone Strong: https://www.instagram.com/thegirlsgonestrong/Brianna Battles: https://www.instagram.com/pregnant.postpartum.athlete/Instagram:LCK - @lauriechristinekingAlex Maclin - @alexqmaclinParagon Training Methods - @paragontrainingmethodsCarli Hobson - @coach.carlijoWebsite Links:LCK - https://lauriechristineking.com/Alex Maclin - https://www.alexmaclin.com/Paragon Training Methods - https://paragontrainingmethods.com/Carli and Beau Photography (Idaho Photo/Video) www.carliandbeau.com 

Welcome back to another episode of That Gym Girl, today I am joined by Physical Therapist Dr. Jen Fraboni! With over 600K followers on social media, a co-host of her own podcast and creator of her own physical health platform (Jen Health), Jen is the expert when it comes to all things pain, movement and truly building your optimal body!On today's episode, we chat all things from what it even means to have an optimal body, why ice baths are even important and how to live your life pain free! I hope you enjoy the episode!Find Jen's links below:Instagram: @docjenfit - click hereJen's Health Platform - click hereTik Tok: @docjenfitLET'S JUMP ON A 1:1 CALL TO CHAT ABOUT YOUR TRAINING & FITNESS, book in herePURCHASE YOUR TICKET TO OUR LONDON EVENT HEREUse code THATGYMGIRL for some $$ off at Naked Harvest hereJoin That Gym Girl private Facebook group hereIf you love the poddy, you should check out my socials:Instagram: @angelwallacemiles - click hereInstagram: @thatgymgirlpodcast - click hereTik Tok: @angelwallacemilesHave the most fabulous day! And make sure to do something for yourself, you deserve it.With love always,Angel. Xo Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/that-gym-girl. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Chronic pain, stress, and tension is something many people struggle with every day, especially when they work from home. Sometimes the pain can be so intense that it feels almost impossible to get relief. Luckily, there are strategies that you can incorporate into your daily routines to decrease stress and tension within your body. On the podcast today, I chatted with Dr. Jen Fraboni about this topic. Dr. Jen Fraboni, PT, DPT, is an internationally-renowned physical therapist who specializes in helping people overcome chronic pain and maximize physical performance. As the founder of the new platform and app, Jen.Health, she brings a unique, whole body approach to strength, mobility and pain-free living. Dr. Jen is the co-host with her husband, who is also a Doctor of Physical Therapy, to a popular podcast called "The Optimal Body Podcast.” Dr. Fraboni shares how we can release stress and tension with movements in our body, how it relates to the pelvic floor, and much more.  In this episode we discuss: What daily mobility looks like for most people, and what improvements we can make. Breathwork and how it helps with day to day movement. Incorporating different workouts like yoga to improve your mobility. Home workouts and how they are beneficial for work at home moms. How the pelvic floor can play a role in our pain structure. Pelvic floor exercises and the benefits for pain relief. Resources: Jen's App  Jen's Instagram Page Jen's YouTube Channel Jen's Facebook Page  The Optimal Body Podcast Impact of heavy resistance training on pregnancy and postpartum health outcomes Discount code from my sponsors: Bobbie: Use code ‘motherhoodmeetsmedicine10' for 10% off your order. Hello Fresh: Use code ‘lynzy65' for 65% off + free shipping. Connect with Lynzy: Join the Motherhood Meets Medicine community at patreon.com/motherhoodmeetsmedicine Instagram: @motherhoodmeetsmedicine Sign up for the weekly newsletter here lynzyandco.com Disclaimer: This podcast does not provide medical advice. The information on this podcast is for informational purposes only. No material on this site is intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dr. Domenic Fraboni is a Doctor of Physical Therapy and Chief Operations Officer of The Mobility Method LLC. For the past decade, Domenic has been an avid coach, unified partner, and volunteer coordinator for Special Olympics, and has assisted in coordinating events nationally for the NCAA and APTA. Through The Mobility Method LLC, Dom and his wife Dr. Jen Fraboni are helping to create access to good, reliable, and affordable health and rehab information to all people through development of the Jen Health Platform. They believe that true human healing occurs by empowering individuals to independence in their health and wellness journey. We talk about this, along with mindset, movement and meals! We also dig into some of the top myths about how to address pain in the body and misconceptions around exercise and what you really need to do in order to get life changing results. Dom explains how breathwork can become the greatest tool to optimize your health: mentally, emotionally, physically and spiritually. And finally, he shares details about the new Jen Health platform that you won't want to miss!

Physical Therapist, Dr. Jen Fraboni, joins me today to discuss pain in the sacroiliac (SI) joint. She explores what contributes to this low hip and back pain and the steps we can help our clients and patients take to tame the flames that pain them. Dr. Jen also debunks a popular myth about how to […] The post #353: Mapping SI Pain with Dr. Jen Fraboni appeared first on Functional Nutrition Alliance.

Physical Therapist, Dr. Jen Fraboni, joins me today to discuss pain in the sacroiliac (SI) joint. She explores what contributes to this low hip and back pain and the steps we can help our clients and patients take to tame the flames that pain them. Dr. Jen also debunks a popular myth about how to […] The post #353: Mapping SI Pain with Dr. Jen Fraboni appeared first on Functional Nutrition Alliance.

Today we've got another highly requested guest in the house: Dr. Jen Fraboni aka @docjenfit!Jen joins Reasonably Fit to discuss why mobility training is crucial to your overall health, how you can easily sneak mobility training into your daily life, and why proper breathing is often the missing link in improving mobility.  There are so many great takeaways from today's episode and we think you're going to love it!Links:RISE ProgramFree Downloads: jasonandlaurenpak.com/free-resourcesFollow Us:Reasonably Fit Podcast IG: @reasonablyfitpodJason and Lauren IG: @jasonandlaurenpakTikTok: @jasonandlaurenpakFollow Jen:Instagram: @docjenfitWebsite: jen.health

In this episode, Dr. Jen Fraboni and I come together to talk about the body and business. Dr. Jen Fraboni, PT, DPT, is an internationally-renowned physical therapist who specializes in helping people overcome chronic pain and maximize physical performance. As the founder of the new platform and app, “Jen.Health,” she brings a unique, whole body approach to strength, mobility and pain-free living. Jen is also a female entrepreneur with years of experience.  Inside the episode we chat about how to nurture your body as an entrepreneur and listen to pain.  We also talk about developing trust with your audience and how to show up as your whole self.

Today we are talking about physical therapy for our pelvic regions and we are very fortunate to have an expert, Dr. Jen Fraboni, on the topic joining us. This conversation blew my mind and debunked a lot of the things I have been told and thought were true about our bodies, healing and the pelvic floor.     Dr. Jen is a PT, DPT and an internationally renowned physical therapist who specializes in helping people overcome chronic pain and maximizing physical performance. As the founder of the new platform and app, jen.health, she brings a unique whole-body approach to strength, mobility, and pain free living. In 2019, she was named one of the Top 50 Most Influential Healthcare Professionals. Jen's easily accessible approach has garnered her more than a half a million viewers on social media and millions of views of her health and fitness videos.    Jen has been featured in Shape Magazine, Self Magazine, Men's Fitness, Muscle and Fitness and in 2020, she graced the cover of Oxygen Magazine. She helped ease back pain with her feature on Good Morning America and on NBC. Dr. Jen is the co-host, with her husband who is also a doctor of physical therapy, to the popular podcast called The Optimal Body Podcast.     After listening to this episode, you will have some things you can be empowered to do yourself to manage stress and tension for healing the body, optimize your health and fertility by bringing blood flow and energy to pelvic region, and what to do if you have scar tissue or adhesions after surgery or endometriosis.    What You'll Learn  How relaxing tension in body and healing the pelvic region relates to fertility Techniques and simple exercises to free up tension How to use the breath as an awareness tool and to help relieve tension The importance of healthy posture and alignment of your body How to break up internal scar tissue and adhesions  What pelvic floor health really looks like      Resources  Schedule your complimentary Strategy session today: https://www.tashablasi.com/connect  Sign-up to become an FU Insider and get 15 Questions You Must Ask Your Fertility Clinic and Making Decisions With Precision. www.MyBabyIsComingSoon.com  Dr. Jen's new physical therapy platform https://jen.health/  The Optimal Body Podcast with Dr. Jen https://www.docjenfit.com/podcast/    How to connect with Tasha  Tashablasi.com    Connect with the health and fitness experts from the episode at support@tashablasi.com   How to get involved  If you would like more information about The FU Project and my mission to get you pregnant so much faster and smarter than I did, please check out my website.    Enjoyed the Podcast? Be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we'd love for you to help us spread the word. There are so many women suffering in silence that could use this help and support. 

In today's episode, Braedy sat down with Dr. Jen Fraboni, commonly known online as Doc Jen, a top-40 physical therapy influencer. She is ranked as one of the Best Fitness Trainers on IG by Shape Magazine and has been featured in Self Magazine, Men's Fitness, Muscle and Fitness.They discussed the mind-body connection, how to use movement and the body to heal + restore the mind, as well as how to be authentic and vulnerable in order to receive support and heal, how to prioritize movement (even if you don't feel like it), and how to share your struggle and foster connection.Connect with Dr. Jen Fraboni:https://www.docjenfit.com/Support the show

On today's episode of Transformation Talks, we're joined by Dr. Jen Fraboni, a physical therapist, member of the Women's Health advisory board, the creator of The Mobility Method, founder of the JenHealth platform, and the host of The Optimal Body podcast.Here's what we got into in today's talk:The value of independence and autonomy (02:41)Understanding our own bodies (05:41)How much mobility is actually necessary (11:00)Why complete rest isn't often the answer (14:55)The “secret” to keeping up with your mobility exercises (21:58)Whether it's possible to be “too mobile” (28:42)The differences between flexibility and mobility (32:43)The biggest influences on Jen's career (38:43)Why it's so important to move if you can (43:40)Jen's number one piece of advice if you're feeling discouraged (46:31)Jen's Fast 5 answers (48:44)Here's where you can connect more deeply with Jen:Jen's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/docjenfit/Jen's website: https://www.docjenfit.com/Jen's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/docjenfitThe Mobility Method (Instagram): https://www.instagram.com/themobilitymethod/The Optimal Body (Podcast): https://www.instagram.com/theoptimalbody/JenHealth: https://jen.health/You can listen to Dr. Domenic Fraboni -- Jen's wonderful husband -- on Transformation Talks here: https://samforget.com/e025/You can claim your transformation bundle for FREE here: https://samforget.com/bundle/You can apply for a spot in the VIP Coaching program here: https://samforget.com/coaching/

Miscarriages are traumatic. And there are no words that can make it feel any less painful. Today we have a very special, more intimate episode with my good friend Dr. Jen Fraboni, as she shares her very real and raw miscarriage journey that is still very fresh and new to her. I'm so grateful for her openness to share, as I know her journey is going to help so many of you, whether it's because you are going through this pain yourself, or are close with someone that is. In this episode of Real SOULutions: 05:30 - How did Jen become pregnant and how did the miscarriage happen? 09:30 - When and how did Jen ready herself to tell people about her pregnancy? 11:00 - Bleeding and how Jen handled it 14:00 - Having the miscarriage - Advocating for yourself and asking questions 21:00 - The trauma of losing your child 26:00 - Healing from the miscarriage 31:00 - What are some things that have helped Jen to heal from her experience? 35:00 - Resources that Jen recommends to people who have gone through a miscarriage and setting up boundaries 38:00 - Learning to create boundaries around people who were not helpful 43:00 - Best gifts to give someone going through a miscarriage   You can find Jen Fraboni on: https://instagram.com/docjenfit https://www.youtube.com/c/docjenfit?sub_confirmation=1 https://docjenfit.com/podcast/ https://jen.health

How important is it for you to be able to move around in your environment and do the things you love, and with less pain? I hope the answer is “very much!” The art and science of movement is fascinating and complicated. Physical therapists (PTs) dedicate their lives to optimizing movement and improving quality of life. But there are lots of things that people misunderstand about PTs, and the field itself has evolved so much over the years that we don't blame the world! Today on the show we are very excited to chat with Jen Fraboni, PT, DPT, an internationally-renowned physical therapist who specializes in helping people overcome chronic pain and maximize physical performance. Jen is the founder of two transformative programs, “The Mobility Method” and “The Optimal Body,” she brings a unique, whole body approach to strength, mobility and pain-free living. In 2019, Jen was named one of the top 50 most influential healthcare professionals. Jen's easily accessible approach has garnered her more than half a million followers on social media and millions of views of her health and fitness videos. Jen has been featured in Shape Magazine, Self Magazine, Men's Fitness and Muscle and Fitness and in 2020, graced the cover of Oxygen Magazine. She has recently been featured on Good Morning America and NBC. Dr. Jen is the co-host with her husband, who is also a Doctor of Physical Therapy, to a popular podcast called "The Optimal Body Podcast.”Connect with her at docjenfit.com(Note the podcaster that we discussed in the show is Aaron LeBauer)

Episode 121 is a great conversation with wife and husband team, Doctors Jen and Dom Fraboni, about creating an agile career, as well as a flexible and healthy body in 2022. Jen and Dom both work as physical therapists with both in-person and online clients, while also maintaining a strong presence as social media influencers and podcasters. We discuss basic guidelines around improving mobility and managing chronic pain, as many people are struggling with the stress and anxiety of being stuck at home and are in great need of simple strategies to stay healthy and fit. Dr. Jen Fraboni is a top-40 physical therapy influencer. With a Doctorate in physical therapy, she is ranked as one of the Best Fitness Trainers on IG by Shape Magazine and has been featured in Self Magazine, Men's Fitness, Muscle and Fitness as well as well as a select interview guest on CBS and on the RISE podcast with Mogul CEO Rachel Hollis.Dr. Domenic Fraboni is a Doctor of Physical Therapy and Certified Strength and Conditioning Coach. He earned this after graduating from Mayo Clinic School of Health Sciences in Rochester, MN IN 2018. He is a member of the American Physical Therapy Association (APTA), attending many events nationwide to advocate for the advance of the physical therapy profession as well as accessibility to higher quality of care. You can find out more information on both Dr Jen and Dr Dom via the following links:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/docjenfit/https://www.instagram.com/drdomdpt/Websites: https://www.docjenfit.com/https://www.docjenfit.com/podcast/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/docjenfit/https://www.facebook.com/dfraboniThe D&D Fitness Radio podcast is available at the following locations for downloadable audio, including: iTunes – https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/d-d-fitness-radio-podcast/id1331724217iHeart Radio – https://www.iheart.com/podcast/dd-fitness-radio-28797988/Spreaker.com – https://www.spreaker.com/show/d-and-d-fitness-radios-showSpotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/5Py2SSPA4mntNwYRm0OpriYou can reach both Don and Derek at the following locations: Don Saladino: http://www.DonSaladino.com Twitter and Instagram - @DonSaladino YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/donsaladino Derek M. Hansen: http://www.SprintCoach.comTwitter and Instagram - @DerekMHansen YouTube - http://youtube.com/derekmhansen

On this special edition of Reborn, Ashley looks back at some of her favorite conversations of 2021.  We hear from former Navy SEAL, bestselling author and Can You Survive This Podcast? host, Clint Emerson; author and Whole30 creator and CEO, Melissa Urban; actor and American Glutton podcast host, Ethan Suplee; Crossfit athlete, entrepreneur, and GOAT wine founder, Margaux Alvarez; physical therapy influencer and fitness expert, Dr. Jen Fraboni; health coach and influencer, Marka Sue Rogers, and more. It's a packed episode filled with some of our favorite moments of the year.    If you want to hear any of the full conversations, you can find the links to the full-length episodes below. Featured Episodes: Whole30 Creator Melissa Urban's Reborn Story Actor Ethan Suplee's Incredible Reborn Story  Margaux Alvarez: Crossfit Star, Winemaker and Entrepreneur Dr. Jen Fraboni: Mind, Body, Fitness Marka Sue Rogers: Transforming Your Life(style) Clint Emerson: The Right Kind of Crazy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On today's episode of Transformation Talks, we're joined by Dr. Domenic Fraboni, a Doctor of Physical Therapy, movement specialist, and co-host of The Optimal Body podcast with his wife, Dr. Jen Fraboni.Here's what we got into in today's talk:Finding authentic and high integrity people (01:17)How Dom helps people in an online setting (02:37)Plans that address CAUSES instead of symptoms (08:17)The limitations of traditional healthcare (12:15)How Dom initially gained an interested in physical therapy (17:44)The importance of having a clear “why” before making sacrifices (24:00)Why it's important to experiment and be open to new solutions (24:25)Finding quality coaches and healthcare providers (33:20)The WORST business advice I ever received (34:20)Finding the best plan or program for your needs (36:36)Important questions to ask and BE asked (44:40)The myth of pain-free movement (47:44)Dom's Fast 5 answers (57:14)Here's where you can connect more deeply with Dom and Jen:Dom's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drdomdpt/Jen's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/docjenfit/Website: docjenfit.comEmail: jen@docjenfit.comThe Optimal Body: https://www.instagram.com/theoptimalbody/The New Platform: jen.health———You can apply for a spot in the VIP Coaching program here: https://herculesperformance.com/coaching/

Jen Fraboni is a physical therapist by trade and entrepreneur at heart. She's the creator of the Mobility Method and co-host of the podcast, The Optimal Body, a show that provides the body tips and Physical Therapy (PT) Pearls you need to help you understand your body, relieve your pains and restrictions, and answers to your questions. Today, Sam and Jen talk about Jen's multifaceted career as a physical therapist, content creator, podcaster, brand manager, and entrepreneur. Jen talks about her belief that pain, balance, and pursuing your passion are all an ongoing journey. She opens up about the importance of giving yourself grace and the power of visualization and positive thinking. Finally, Jen debunks common myths about physical therapy and the human body.

Dr. Jen Fraboni is widely recognized as one of the world's top physical therapy influencers, with nearly 700,0000 followers and coverage in major outlets including Shape Magazine, Self Magazine, Men's Fitness, Muscle and Fitness, CBS, the RISE podcast and more.  Today, she offers private sports therapy, as well as online programs and workshops, global speaking events, and more.  She is also the creator of The Mobility Method program, the co-host of The Optimal Body podcast, and a member of the Women's Health magazine advisory board.  You can follow her on Instagram @docjenfit ****** When you visit www.Manscaped.com/ashley, you'll get a special 20% OFF coupon applied directly to your Cart, plus free international shipping and TWO FREE GIFTS!    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we have such a special guest and we're so pleased she could join us - the one and only Dr. Jen Fraboni, PT, DPT aka @DocJenFit.  Physical Therapist, health guru, and social media sensation Doc Jen has some amazing insight into the social media health and fitness world, and how her role as a physical therapist has fit in.  It was such a pleasure chatting with you Jen, we hope you enjoyed the conversation as much as we did (even if DaPrato did just absolutely destroy your previous last name - sorry, he's had too many COVID tests).  Enjoy Episode 24 of What The Cup!? A Podcast, and make sure to follow her @docjenfit and visit her website www.docjenfit.com for more info!

Jen Fraboni (formerly Jen Esquer and more widely known as Doc Jen Fit) built a successful business and found the love of her life by taking leaps of faith into the unknown. Jen has successfully grown her social media to over 675k followers, has a booming online business she loves, and has found a supportive partner in life. Her journey hasn't been easy, but she is living proof that anyone can achieve success doing the things they love. In this episode, Jen share's how she overcame imposter syndrome and personal failures to live a life she truly loves. This podcast is a great listen for anyone seeking permission or guidance to make a massive change in their life.In this episode, you will learn: How Doc Jen's approach to physical therapy is differentThe way our body sends us signals that something isn't right and what this actually meansJen's story to putting herself out there and growing a massive following onlinePushing past imposter syndromeHow Jen navigated one of the hardest moments of her lifeWhat a shroom journey is likeIf you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating  and leave us a comment on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser and Castbox about what you'd like us to talk about that will help you realize that at any moment, any day, you too can decide, it's your turn!Guest Bio:Jen Fraboni, PT, DPT, is an internationally-renowned physical therapist who specializes in helping people overcome chronic pain and maximize physical performance. As the founder of two transformative programs, The Mobility Method and The Optimal Body, she brings a unique, whole body approach to strength, mobility and pain-free living. In 2019, Jen was named one of the top 50 most influential healthcare professionals. Jen's easily accessible approach has garnered her more than half a million followers on social media and millions of views of her health and fitness videos. Jen has been featured in Shape Magazine, Self Magazine, Men's Fitness and Muscle and Fitness and in 2020, graced the cover of Oxygen Magazine. She has recently been featured on Good Morning America and NBC. Dr. Jen is the co-host with her husband, who is also a Doctor of Physical Therapy, to a popular podcast called The Optimal Body Podcast. They live in Los Angeles, California.Follow Doc Jen Fit:Doc Jen Fit websiteInstagramFacebookDoc Jen Fit on YouTubeChristina Lecuyer's Bio:Christina Lecuyer is a former Professional Golfer, a three-time reality television competitor, Confidence + Mindset Coach, Motivational Speaker, and Founder of Women with C.L.A.S.S. Mastermind, as well as Decide It's Your Turn™: Women's Weekend. Christina's mission in life is to empower people to fully live in their purpose, confidently and successfully!Resources and Links:Join Decide It's Your Turn™: The NetworkChristina Lecuyer's WebsiteFollow Christina on InstagramFollow Christina on FacebookLooking for Christina's Tweets?Christina Lecuyer on YouTubeHashtags : #justbe #worthyaf #livealifeyoulove

In this episode, Corissa interviews Thee Mobility Queen & Physical Therapist, Dr. Jen Fraboni. Jen shares her journey from deciding to get into a DPT program to helping thousands around the world reduce and eliminate pain through mobility & movement.From gymnastics to pilates and physical therapy to personal growth, you'll want to tune into this one!SHOW NOTES:2:15 - Jens introduction3:20 - How Corissa and Jen met5:30 - Jen's journey from gymnastics to Pilates, physical therapy and beyond7:00 - Jen's passion for physical therapy and decision to go for her DPT12:30 - Anything is possible13:30 - Opportunities leading Jen with the decision to leave the office and do her own thing17:00 - Leveraging social media & the web for mass impact22:40 - Moving through fears as an introvert on social media24:45 - Feeling crazy within your mind is NORMAL. Keep swimming!26:00 - Jen's personal development journey. From resistance to breaking through.29:00 - Moving through a breakup and trusting your intuition33:30 - Jen's perspective on CrossFit39:50 - There's no “one way to move”40:30 - What Jen is up to these days and how to get value from her programs, podcast, and apps42:30 - Jen's programs, The Mobility Method & The Optimal Body45:00 - One of Jen's favorite books and top tips for mindset & movement growth46:00 - Breathwork. DO. IT.47:00 - Thank you, Jen!Guest: Doctor Jen EsquerInstagram: @docjenfit @themobilitymethod @theoptimalbodyWebsite: https://www.docjenfit.com/Podcast Host: Corissa Alvarez, MS, CPT SUBSCRIBE TO CORISSA'S EMAIL LIST WITH THIS LINK! ...& GET A FREE HABIT TRACKER! https://corissalulu.ck.page/9aad2f69f1Instagram: @corissaluluEmail: connect@corissalulu.com

I've had the honor of receiving the movement medicine of today's guest, Dr. Jen Fraboni, a well-respected physical therapist, who’s now reaching even more people to guide their own body and transition from pain into power with her accessible online program, https://www.docjenfit.com/ (The Mobility Method. ) In the episode, she reveals how she landed into physiotherapy, the critical differences between flexibility and active mobility, and the actionable hacks you can incorporate into your life to gently improve your body's alignment and prevent injury. She also explains the impetus behind her new program and why it's the perfect antidote to our collective alignment pandemic of sitting on chairs, couches, and cars all day. You will learn about... Journey into physiotherapy What the goals are for a physical therapist  Flexibility and active mobility Down-regulation movements for you to try at home  Examining common pain points Strengthening your Pelvic Floor beyond kegel exercises Dispelling myths around alignment Resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/docjenfit/?hl=en (@docjenfit) Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/themobilitymethod/ (@themobilitymethod) Join: https://www.docjenfit.com/mobility (The Mobility Method) Connect with Kelly: https://kellyleveque.com/ (kellyleveque.com) Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bewellbykelly/ (@bewellbykelly) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bewellbykelly/ (facebook.com/bewellbykelly) Be Well By Kelly is a production of http://crate.media (Crate Media)