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In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, Doctors of Physical Therapy Dr. Jen and Dr. Dom debunk the myth that deep squats are harmful to the knees and discuss their impact on knee health. They trace the misconception to outdated research and review recent studies showing deep squats are generally safe and beneficial for healthy adults, supporting overall knee health. The hosts discuss knee biomechanics, the importance of gradual progression, and individualized modifications. They emphasize that deep squats support functional movement, joint health, and knee health, even for those with knee pain, and encourage listeners to challenge old beliefs and approach squatting with confidence and proper technique.VivoBarefoot Discount:Support your feet and ankles with VivoBarefoot shoes—with perfect styles for any occasion! Boost foot health through mobility and strength from the ground up. Use code OPTIMAL20 for 20% off. 100-day trial included—return if you're not satisfied!LMNT Electrolytes: Free Gift with Purchase!Stay hydrated and energized with LMNT electrolytes—sodium, potassium, and magnesium for brain and body. It's our favorite micro nutrition hack to get those essential minerals in! Get a free gift with every purchase and try new flavors! Get your Free Gift now!We think you'll love:Free Week of the Knee PlanFree Knee MasterclassJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelWhat You'll Learn01:47 Tracing the myth to a 1961 study with questionable methods and its influence on fitness culture.04:25 Summary of review findings: most studies support deep squat safety for healthy adults, with a few raising minor concerns.08:02 Highlighting benefits found in research: improved strength, tendon resilience, and functional capacity.09:54 How knee joint and patellofemoral forces change with squat depth, and why deep squat exercise may not be riskier.12:31 Anecdote about retraining Dr. Jen's mom to perform deep squats safely despite osteoarthritis.13:58 Noting that deep squats are used...For full show notes and resources visit https://jen.health/podcast/438 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, Doc Jen and Dr. Dom, both doctors of physical therapy, sit down with Dr. Mary Alice Mina, a Harvard-trained dermatologist and host of The Skin Real Podcast. Dr. Mina shares her holistic perspective on skincare health, emphasizing how lifestyle factors such as sleep, nutrition, exercise, and mindset play a crucial role. She debunks common skincare myths, underscores the effectiveness of simple routines—cleanser, sunscreen, moisturizer—and explores the connection between mental health and skincare health. Throughout the conversation, Dr. Mina provides practical, evidence-based tips for aging gracefully and building confidence, encouraging listeners to adopt sustainable habits that support long-term skincare health and avoid the pain of skin issues.Needed Discount:Jen trusted Needed Supplements for fertility, pregnancy, and beyond! Support men and women's health with vitamins, Omega-3, and more. Used by 6,000+ pros. Use code OPTIMAL for 20% off at checkout!Free Week of the Jen Health Membership:Get a free week of Jen Health Membership! Access 12 plans with daily exercise crafted by Doc Jen, PT. We'll match you with the best plan for your goals. Check it out today and use code OPTIMAL for a discount on your first month!Dr. Mina's Resources:The Skin Real WebsiteDr Mina's IGThe Skin Real YoutubeThe Skin Real FacebookThe Skin Real PodcastSkincare DiscountWe think you'll love:Free Week of Jen HealthJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelWhat You'll Learn From Dr Mina:02:17 Dr. Mina shares her personal shift to holistic, preventative skincare after turning 40.05:05 Discussion on how internal health...For full; show notes and resources visit https://jen.health/podcast/437 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, Dr. Jen and Dr. Dom, Doctors of Physical Therapy, delve into the complexities of chronic low back pain. They discuss the latest research on both acute and chronic low back pain, emphasizing the need for individualized treatment plans. The hosts highlight the importance of exercise, the powerful role of mindset, patient-provider relationships, and supportive environments in managing chronic low back pain. They stress that recovery is a gradual, personalized process, caution against one-size-fits-all solutions, and encourage listeners to remain consistent, address psychological factors, and seek professional guidance for lasting improvement.Black Friday Sale!Invest in yourself this Holiday Season! Come join our movement community with the most massive sale on the annual membership where you can get in for only $12.50 per month! We have plans for each specific body area that you might have aches and pains in and full videos with expert cuing to get you back to the exercises you love, without the pain. Join us today!Needed Discount:Jen trusted Needed Supplements for fertility, pregnancy, and beyond! Support men and women's health with vitamins, Omega-3, and more. Used by 6,000+ pros. Use code OPTIMAL for 20% off at checkout!We think you'll love:Black Friday DiscountJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelWhat You'll Learn02:47 Discussion on how common and costly low back pain is, and the dangers of one-size-fits-all solutions.04:00 Emphasis on the need for individualized approaches and skepticism toward exclusive treatment claims.07:00 Explanation of the timeframes and definitions for acute, subacute, and chronic low back pain.09:05 Importance of contextual factors—expectations, relationships, environment—in pain reduction and recovery.11:53 How patient-provider relationships and belief in treatment impact outcomes, especially for chronic pain.15:07 Encouragement to remain open to new approaches and persist through setbacks in chronic pain recovery.17:31 Study findings on optimal exercise load (MET minutes) and the benefits of consistent, appropriate exercise.20:19 Research on effective session lengths, program duration, and the benefits of tai chi for chronic pain.26:14 Consistency, adherence, and...For full show notes and resources visit https://jen.health/podcast/436 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Lesley and Brad recap key insights from physical therapist Dr. Jen Fraboni (@docjenfit), co-host of The Optimal Body Podcast. Known for helping people move with less pain and more confidence, Dr. Jen redefines pain as an “alarm,” not a stop sign—your body's way of asking for better care and awareness. Lesley and Brad unpack her practical strategies for building stability before flexibility, tuning in before you train, and aging with strength and ease.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How Lesley's pain-as-alarm concept to daily self-check habits.Brad overcomes foot pain by staying active instead of stopping.How Lesley's yoga experience illustrated “stability before flexibility” The importance of reflection and consistency when pain shows up unexpectedly.How building strength supports graceful aging and confidence in movement.Episode References/Links:OPC Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tour0Pilates Journal Expo - https://xxll.co/pilatesjournalCambodia Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.com/waitlistAgency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniContrology Pilates Conference in Poland - https://xxll.co/polandContrology Pilates Conference in Brussels - https://xxll.co/brusselsSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsDr. Jen Fraboni's Website - https://jen.healthThe Optimal Body Podcast - https://www.docjenfit.com/podcastDr. Jen Fraboni's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/docjenfitEpisode 589: Brad Bizjack - https://beitpod.com/ep589 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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You know, just do some reflection. Lesley Logan 0:12  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:51  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the empowering convo I had with Jen Fraboni in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, you've missed out on an incredible interview with DocJenFit. That's her Instagram handle or her handle everywhere. So many of you love her, know her, and this was a really cool, I thought, very vulnerable convo as well. She shared a lot about going on her life, how she handles things. I love when people are like, just a human and so it's gonna be really good. So I can't wait to recap it, but before we do that, today is November 20th 2025, and we have two days to celebrate. And to be honest, there was like seven, so we could have chosen. There was a few that I was like, well, I don't use less, so we can't use use less day, because I'm so not participating. But there's a couple others, but we're going to focus on two of them. One is the Great American Smokeout. The American Cancer Society sponsors a Great American Smokeout on the third Thursday of November annually, challenging smokers to give up cigarettes for 24 hours. If you or a loved one smoke cigarettes, consider joining the movement and take the first step towards quitting cigarettes forever. How? Let's both try to do something tough for a day. I'll give up either coffee, sugar, social media. Brad Crowell 2:10  You're you are allowed to pitch this to them. Lesley Logan 2:13  Oh, this is how you're gonna pitch it. Brad Crowell 2:14  Yeah. This is how you're gonna pitch this to them. Lesley Logan 2:15  This is how you're gonna pitch it. So you're gonna, you, if you're a non-smoker, if you're a smoker, then you can tell another smoker, you guys could do it together. But if you're a non-smoker, asking a smoker, then you're gonna say, I'm gonna give up something they know. You're gonna have a hard time giving up for 24 hours. Brad Crowell 2:30  Like, maybe it's Instagram, maybe it's chocolate, could be sugar.Lesley Logan 2:35  Coffee, you know something like that and you give up smoking, think of it as a reset, not a rule. So.Brad Crowell 2:43  And that's what you can also tell them, It's a reset, not a rule. Lesley Logan 2:45  Well, Brad, can we, like, let's how hard, can we talk about it? Brad Crowell 2:50  We can certainly talk about it. Lesley Logan 2:51  Okay, you quit smoking. Brad Crowell 2:53  I did quit smoking. Lesley Logan 2:54  If he had been a smoker when we met, it would have not we would not be married 10 years. Brad Crowell 2:58  It's true. Lesley Logan 2:59  Because we would not have gone on a date. Brad Crowell 3:00  Yeah. I mean, it's. Lesley Logan 3:02  My grandfather was a smoker. Brad Crowell 3:04  It doesn't smell good. Lesley Logan 3:05  Yeah. So I have had two grandfathers who are massive smokers, one who lost a lung to smoking, and another one who had multiple heart problems, and the heart doctor refused to operate on him unless he quit smoking. So I, like, this is a big like, personal thing, because I lost family members to smoking. But I know it's not easy. So Brad.Brad Crowell 3:26  Yeah, I mean, I've told this story before, so it was the decision to smoke or to quit smoking was, for me, it was made emotionally, which is what made it easy. The decision to stop, to stay with that initial decision was actually quite challenging, you know, because of the addiction, because of nicotine, but because I wanted to sing more than I wanted to smoke, that was the emotional decision. It was like, oh my god, this is a very I just have to stop, like, I can't, I can't be on stage and not be able to sing. So that I think that was hard, because I had to hit a wall in order for that decision to become emotional and then for it to actually happen in my life. But okay, great. That's step one. Then step two is consistently not smoking when I used to smoke. So in the car with the window down, or I don't remember, you know, walking out of my apartment complex, there was a there was, like, part of my routine, you know, and doing those things, like continuing to do life, you're going to run back into those instances where you used to do the habit and would always make me think, this is what I would normally pull out a cigarette. And so that was, that was a constant battle for, honestly, for just a few weeks. Lesley Logan 4:56  Well, it's interesting, because so in a couple of weeks, we have a habit series starting and in one of the episodes, I talked about how to unravel a habit. And for smoking, like all we can be completely honest, there is an addictive element to it, in that they made it addictive. So you have a habit, you smoke when you're in traffic. My old roommate, she would she when she quit smoking was the hardest thing, because she's like, Lesley, I'm in traffic for 45 minutes, and I used to just sit there and smoke, and now I am not. So she had lollipops and teas and coffees because she needed something to do in the car. She actually had, like, the patches like, well, that helps you quit. So she's like, I don't even have the craving to smoke. I have the habit. So I will talk about how to unravel a habit in that series in December, so make sure you're paying attention. Okay, the other day, this is really important to Brad and I that we wanted to bring it up. (inaudible)Brad Crowell 5:47  Second thing we wanted to remember today. Lesley Logan 5:50  Yes. So it's Transgender Day of Remembrance. For generations, the transgender population has suffered various forms of abuse and even death for or murder, so we'll call it that, for challenging the views, notions and stereotypes around male and female identity. Every year, we set aside today as Transgender Day of Remembrance. This holiday is meant to honor, commemorate and memorialize those who face discrimination and stigma on a daily basis across this nation. This holiday is also meant to advocate for transgenders people's rights, as well as focus on the persistent struggles they face in their everyday lives and how others can share their love, support and hope. If you listen to this podcast and you have a fucking problem with transgenders, I am just going to be on, I need you to explore why. These are just people. They're just people, and they've been around forever. And I bring it, I bring it up in one of the FYF is coming up about like, how in the indigenous cultures, they actually have people, they already had words for this. This is something. It's actually a fucking cool thing. Like you have the ability to see the world the way they see it through both lenses. It's a powerful thing. And I fucking clearly I'm pissed about it, but I get so annoyed. We flew on a plane the other day, and no one has a problem using a toilet on a plane, but all of a sudden they have a fucking problem of sharing a bathroom with another person of a different gender, and it's like, what are we talking about here? You just shared a bathroom. So I don't understand when they make neutral bathrooms, how people get pissed about that. I also just listened to this one thing. If I could find the reel I'll send it to the team to link it. If you don't see the link below, it's because I couldn't find it. But this person is is explaining how it's sort of the safety of women to in the bathrooms, of why they want people using the bathrooms of their own, like birth certificate, right? And this one person is a trans man. He goes, so what you're actually saying is that men are a danger to women and you don't want them in their bathrooms. So that's the problem. We should solve that problem. We shouldn't be policing genitals. So I just get really upset because it's just bothersome to me. Why do we why do we care so much we have healthcare issues in this country. We have poverty issue. We have children who don't have enough food. Brad Crowell 8:06  We have food issues, yeah. Lesley Logan 8:07  The higher percentage of people. Brad Crowell 8:09  We have water issues. Did you know, I don't remember what the number is, but like, (inaudible) I think, I think it was Jackson, Mississippi, like, they don't have running water in in, like, many parts of the city. I don't know what the the numbers are, but like, that was a thing in a couple years ago. Lesley Logan 8:24  Yes, no, there's a higher percentage of people who are listening to this show that know someone who's homeless, who is a pover in poverty, who has food. What do you call it? Like a food uncertainty? Then then know of someone who's transgendered and so why? Like, what are we doing? So I'm just pissed about it. I'm just over it. I'm over people being so uptight and like that they're a threat to who you are. You know, it goes to that whole thing where it's like, if you don't like abortions, don't get one. If you don't like gay marriage, if somebody of your same sex asks you to marry them, don't say yes. Like, you don't have to do any of these things. You don't have to be trans like this is I just get annoyed. I'm pissed. Anyways, so today is the day to remember the people who have been fighting to exist as they feel like they should exist, and we should do what we can to honor those people. And if you don't know anyone, maybe consider looking at a community service organization in your area that you could donate to if you are listening from Las Vegas, when you buy food from the Bronze Cafe, their proceeds, part of their proceeds go to the LGBTQ community for mental health. So it's really, really cool. We use their restaurant for all of our retreats here in Las Vegas. We can help support that.Brad Crowell 9:37  And they have a second location at the.Lesley Logan 9:43  Oh Brad's so excited. Brad Crowell 9:45  The conservation preserve, the Springs Preserve here, which has has a massive cactus garden. So go to the cactus garden. Go eat lunch, and you'll be also helping support (inaudible) the transgender community here.Lesley Logan 9:58  Yeah, when you come visit Las Vegas, you should go to Springs Preserves, and then you can go to Bronze Cafe. Okay, cool stuff coming up now. So here we go. Brad Crowell 10:06  All right, so here's what we got coming up on the docket, actually, next week, or Yyeah, literally, in a few days, is the Black Friday Cyber Monday coming up for you've probably already been inundated with everything that's been crazy, but for us, we're going to do it actually, during the old school Black Friday Cyber, Cyber Monday is even new. Black Friday, so it's the 26th to the first of December for OPC only, y'all so check your email for more details, starting yesterday. So just go check your emails if you haven't already, we've got an offer for you with OPC.Lesley Logan 10:37  If you didn't get an email, it's because you have not signed up for our emails, or you unsubscribed from us, and we don't take that personally. You could just resubscribe. But yeah, the dates will be November 26th December 1st. Brad Crowell 10:47  If you're wondering what it is and you didn't get the email, just DM us and we can send you the right place.Lesley Logan 10:52  We're really excited about this sale, and it's the one time of the year we do it, so take advantage. Don't ask us on December 2nd for it. It's not how it works. It's actually a lot of work. Brad Crowell 11:01  Speaking of December, we're gonna be on the road again for our winter tour for OPC, and the actual dates we're gonna get, it's like starting on the seventh or sixth.Lesley Logan 11:11  No, it's like the fifth, I think it's the fifth in Colorado Springs, and it ends on. Brad Crowell 11:15  Oh, yeah, we gotta drive there, though, so we leave.Lesley Logan 11:18  We leave earlier than it starts. We come home the day that it ends so but it's like, it's like, December 5th through the January 6th or January 7th. Brad Crowell 11:28  And we do come home the day that ends. Lesley Logan 11:30  I, yeah, I know that we sound like when it comes to this tour that we're like, not organized. The last time we recorded, we had no idea where we're going. And now we do, and it's huge. The whole tour is listed, 23 cities. Brad Crowell 11:42  Yeah, 23. Lesley Logan 11:43  Colorado Springs. Brad Crowell 11:45  23 public events. Lesley Logan 11:46  St Louis.Brad Crowell 11:47  Yeah, the fifth, the first the first event is on December 5 in Colorado Springs, then we go to Fayetteville.Lesley Logan 11:54  Oh, Fayetteville. Oh, I'm so sorry. How could I skip Arkansas. Brad Crowell 11:57  Then St Louis on the 7th. Lesley Logan 11:58  Then St Louis, then Detroit, then Columbus. Brad Crowell 12:01  No, then Lexington. Lesley Logan 12:03  I'm going to Lexington. Brad Crowell 12:04  You're going to Lexington.Lesley Logan 12:04  Oh, I am going to Lexington, but I'm going in that order.Brad Crowell 12:06  Then you're going to Columbus, then you're going to Detroit.Lesley Logan 12:09  What? How does the map work? Am I going like zigzag?Brad Crowell 12:14  Believe it or not, they're almost in line. Yeah, they're, they are.Brad Crowell 12:18  I don't understand the middle. I'm so sorry. Okay, then we go to Pittsburgh. Lesley Logan 12:22  Okay, Pittsburgh. Then we go to. Brad Crowell 12:25  Rochester Lesley Logan 12:26  RochesterBrad Crowell 12:27  New York Lesley Logan 12:27  Oh, yeah, we're going to, do you say Rochester or you go Rochester. How do you say it? Brad Crowell 12:31  RochesterLesley Logan 12:32  RochesterBrad Crowell 12:33  Rochester, New York. And then we go to Boston, Cape Cod, Hartford, Connecticut. That's a new one for us. Hershey, Pennsylvania. We're coming back Rehoboth Beach. Lesley Logan 12:42  That's a new one for us. Brad Crowell 12:43  That's new, to Delaware, that'll be just after Christmas, and then we have Washington, DC, Virginia Beach, Charlotte, North Carolina. That's new for us. We've got Delray. This is Florida. We're gonna be hoofing it from North Carolina all the way down to Delray, Florida. This is new.Lesley Logan 12:59  Christmas Eve, Del Rey. Brad Crowell 13:01  Nope, New Year's Eve Del Rey. On a roll, here.Lesley Logan 13:07  You guys Del Rey is near Fort Lauderdale, Hollywood, Florida, correct? Brad Crowell 13:11  Yeah. It's just north of Fort Lauderdale, I think. Lesley Logan 13:14  So our Miami stop has moved up a little bit because most of you are driving from that area anyway, so you're welcome. And then we do New Year's Day with our Pilates crew that's in Tampa.Brad Crowell 13:26  Yes. Lesley Logan 13:26  And then we go to Pensacola. Brad Crowell 13:28  Yes. Then New Orleans. Lesley Logan 13:30  New Orleans, and then Houston. Brad Crowell 13:31  Then, Houston. Lesley Logan 13:32  Houston. We haven't been to Houston in years.Brad Crowell 13:34  Yeah, it's been quite a few years for us to be in Houston. That'll be on January 4th and then fifth in Austin, and then Phoenix, we're coming to you on the seventh.Lesley Logan 13:42  Yeah. So get your tickets at opc.me/events, by the way. Brad Crowell 13:46  Nope, opc.me/tour, opc.me/tour. Lesley Logan 13:50  There's two links. Okay, sorry, opc.me/tour is where you get your tickets. And at the time we're recording this, we're over 57% sold out. By the time you're hearing this, it's going to be way closer to sold out, because literally, nine events only have one spot right now in them. So go to opc.me/tour. Bring your friends. Also in December, we didn't do a Profitable Pilates Black Friday, Cyber Monday this year, because we want you to focus on, so save the date, December 26th or the 31st that will be on the Profitable Pilates newsletter list. So you have to be on that one. So for the Pilates instructors studio owners who want business flights, we're gonna have some special deal on Agency. We've never done it before. So make sure you're watching your inbox for that if you don't get those emails, just DM us and the team will help you out. Brad Crowell 14:36  By the way, we're 55% sold out. Lesley Logan 14:39  Oh, I know, but we're. Brad Crowell 14:40  I just checked. Lesley Logan 14:41  I know, but it hasn't been updated in 48 hours, so.Brad Crowell 14:44  Maybe even more, so it might be closer to 60. Good stuff.Lesley Logan 14:48  Yeah, I think so. And then after our tour, we come home for one day, kick off, eLevate, get our roots done, get our nails done by (inaudible), and then we go to Huntington Beach. Teach for the Pilates Journal Expo. This is a really cool two-day event, huge lineup of teachers. I don't I it's like a fucking party. So you should just go to xxll.co/pilatesjournal. So just two Xs guys, xxll.co/pilatesjournal. And then if you aren't already on the waitlist, you'll want to be on the waitlist because also, in January, we're going to open up the early bird registration for our Pilates retreat in Cambodia. This we just came back from. Brad Crowell 15:28  Y'all it is going to be amazing. Lesley Logan 15:30  I'm making so many mistakes, because we just got back and it was the coolest retreat of life. No offense to the people we've been on retreats with before, you were amazing.Brad Crowell 15:37  Incredible retreat. Lesley Logan 15:38  But like, if you have ever thought, oh, my god, they must get bored of this. We don't. We had the best fucking time. It was like we I just loved it. So I can't wait to take you,Brad Crowell 15:48  Yeah, and I think, I think this year is going to be sorry, next year, So 2026, is going to be even better. And I know we've had a lot of interest already, but one of the things we're going to do differently, in January, we're going to have a call for everyone who's curious about this, the retreat, all the questions. We're going to have a couple of our past retreaters join us live, and we're going to have them just answer those questions. You can ask them directly. They can share with you their experience, you know, the process of getting there, like, did they feel safe? What kind of food was it? What kind of activities did they enjoy? All the things that you might be curious about. And I'm telling you, it is gonna next year, is gonna sell quickly. So, get yourself on the waitlist. Go to crowsnestretreats.com and we can't wait to see it all there.Lesley Logan 16:34  Every group is got its own, different vibe. This group, we were like, rapping in the in the bus on the way to like, no one took a nap. Usually people are napping. We were like, half a native. So anyways, crowsnestretreats.com, crowsnestretreats.com/waitlist get you on the waitlist. Okay, in February, that is when our Agency Mini is happening. That is our three day event. I don't know if we're doing a second one next year. We're going to try, but you know, we'll see. So you're going back to Agency Mini, you want to get on the waitlist for that if you want to make sure you don't miss the early bird discount, prfit.biz/mini holy fucking molly, there's a lot of events coming up. So Poland and Brussels, that is in March, you guys. And I mean, a lot of questions about, are you doing anything in Europe? Anything? This is it. We're going, we're like, literally not getting on a plane until March, and I don't have plans to get on a plane after March until Cambodia. So if you want to see me, you need to check out the Poland Controlology Pilates conference. xxll.co/poland and or Brussels, xxll.co/brussels, two events, different workshops to both events, you can you're welcome to come to both. Karen Frischmann is actually collabing on that with me and the host studios, so you get two amazing teachers for the price of a weekend. And it's pretty kind of it's pretty awesome. So different workshops, plus there's a day of privates and semi private classes. So you can also jump in and enjoy some workouts with us. You don't want to miss it, because I don't know when we're coming back. Okay? And then we're gonna leave that. Brad and I are gonna do a vacation. Brad Crowell 18:08  What? Weird. Lesley Logan 18:09  About nine, 10 days vacation in Europe, and then April after our vacation, we wrap up in April at P.O.T. London, and now it's official. Now if you've been hearing me say, I'm not allowed to tell you, I don't know if we're allowed to tell you, we can tell you I signed a contract. I don't I don't I don't know if there's a link out yet, but I'm sure there is. So just look at like, P.O.T. London from Balanced Body, and you'll find it. All right, oh my gosh, okay, should we let's get to this audience question, and we got to get to this amazing recap episode.Brad Crowell 18:34  All right, so the audience question this week was from @audreyphipps1726, on YouTube. She, this is for the Pilates equipment for beginners video. She said, hey, what size is that Try Me Stability Ball. I would love to find one. Lesley Logan 18:50  Yeah, so the triad ball that's.Brad Crowell 18:53  I was wondering. Lesley Logan 18:54  Audrey, it took me a second. I was like, try me. I'd have to Google this, because sometimes people go, hey, what do you think of this item? And I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about, but I realize it's my accent. It's the triad ball, and I don't actually know the dimensions. It's a purple ball that you don't want to fill all the way up. It's smaller than a I guess it'd be like, volleyball size when it's filled up, but you want it to be a little squishy. And where did I get it. I think I went on Balanced Body. Let's see.Brad Crowell 19:24  The OPTP triad ball nine and a half inches. Lesley Logan 19:27  Is it purple? Brad Crowell 19:28  Um, yeah, it's purple. Lesley Logan 19:30  Yeah, the OPTP. Brad Crowell 19:32  Yeah. OPTP triad ball nine and a half inches. Lesley Logan 19:35  You can get it at like, Target. Brad Crowell 19:37  Yeah, even at Walmart. Lesley Logan 19:38  I'm not shopping at Target these days, but you can get on OPTP's website, they have a bunch. They have a huge website, lots of amazing stuff on TP actually, you'll kind of like, it's good products, good stuff. So if you have a question, you can text us at +13109055534, or submit it to beitpod.com/questions. You can also leave a win. And I love getting your wins, because I love helping people see like there's a celebration in everything. You know there's a reason to celebrate the whole every if you just watch the news and open up your phone, it fucking sucks. So you got to have a place where you know it's going to be some good news, and you might hear your win on a day you need to remind yourself that you had a fucking win.Brad Crowell 20:17  Yeah, that's true. Yeah, you are 100% right. Well, stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 20:23  Okay, welcome back. Let's talk about Dr. Jen Fraboni. Dr. Jen Fraboni, also known as Doc Jen Fit, is a physical therapist passionate about helping people move more with less pain and more confidence. She is the founder of Jen.Health, a platform and app designed to make strength, mobility and recovery accessible for everyone. Alongside her husband, she cohosts The Optimal Body Podcast. Her work has also been featured nationally, including on Good Morning America and NBC, where she shared simple strategies to ease back pain during the pandemic. So we well, it was just a great conversation, by the way, nobody knows this, but I get to watch the the full interview call, right? And. Lesley Logan 21:06  You watch it? Brad Crowell 21:07  Yeah, watch every single one of them. That's how I do prep. Oh, I thought you just listened, nope, 100% of the time watching the interview. So the beginning of it was really fun because you were saying that, basically you were like, oh my gosh, this is how my day is gonna go today. I'm so excited to start today with this interview.Lesley Logan 21:26  Well, because, because it was a Zoom call with Jen Fraboni. And I was like, it's Jen Fraboni. And then it was then she showed up, like, Oh my God. Like, I was like, I mean, I guess I could have looked up.Brad Crowell 21:39  Doc Jen Fit. Lesley Logan 21:40  I mean, I knew I was interviewing her at some point, but I just my brain didn't like keep her, keep her last name associated with her Instagram handle, but yeah, how fun is that? I don't know, maybe the team left in the outtakes. Yeah, it was so good. Brad Crowell 21:53  Yeah. So you know what, what the two of you were digging into. I thought it was just really great talking about paying because I I related a lot to that, especially this past year, I've actually had a lot of pain with my my foot. So anyway, you know. Lesley Logan 22:08  But well, that goes into, like, something like, what I liked that she addressed about pain was that, like, most of the time it's just an alarm. Especially if you didn't get an accident, like, and sometimes your pain is like, you're just sitting there, and all of a sudden something hurts in your body, and you're like, ah, this hurts. And I'm like, just sitting there, like, what are you talking about? So in that case, if it wasn't, like, you know, you fell down the stairs, you tripped across the street, you were in a car accident, if you have pain, it is your body going, Hey, hi. You're not taking good care of me, right? It's like, just trying to get your attention. And I just like, if we think of that as what it is, as opposed to, I have to stop doing everything that was associated with that, because this is what happens, right? People come to Pilates once a week. The goal is three to four times. Week four is better. That's the goal, right? But I have someone who'll come once a week, and they go, they'll see me the next week. Oh, last last week. My back hurt, so we need to be conscious of that. And it's like so there are six other days, plus the 23 hours of the day. I didn't see you. What did you do? How are you taking care of yourself? I'm not saying the Pilates doesn't didn't hurt you. What I am saying is more likely than not, it wasn't the Pilates, but the Pilates is the unique thing about your day, right? So it's, it's similar to, I have some stomach digestive issues, and I would go, Oh, I think I got gluten, or I must have had some dairy. When I found out that I'm also allergic to oats. And every fucking day I was having oat milk, right?. And I wasn't associating, like, any of the other boring food I was having all of the time, I was coming up with, like, this unique thing that could have happened, so I really like that.Brad Crowell 23:53  We were just with our friend, and the next day he was like, I think I got glutened yesterday. It must have been that meal that we ate, you know? And I said, you know, I'm I'm also not feeling 100% and then I thought about the restaurant, which is we've eaten at 100 times. And I was like, what did we do differently? And he had the spiciest Margarita I think I've ever tasted, and I was loading on the hot sauce. I was like, You know what, man, I wonder. I mean, look, it's possible that you got glutened but they were, they specifically came out and told us that they made this gluten free. So I'd be surprised. Maybe there was some leftover, something (inadible) but also, like, the two of us ate something that was pretty off the path. I like to eat spicy stuff, but, like, we ate a lot of it.Lesley Logan 24:39  His his his Margarita was almost undrinkable. Lesley Logan 24:42  It was crazy. You diluted it twice.Lesley Logan 24:44  And you know, I like a spicy mar I was like, I I think that was gonna provide a colonic, to be completely honest, anyways. But I just think, like, she gave some really great stuff, like she talked about her own personal experience, like she's got some back pain, and she's like, Oh, I've been sleeping less, I'm breastfeeding, I'm sitting more, and I'm not moving my body. So what can I do to be more conscious about the things that I need to give myself?Brad Crowell 25:06  Yeah, I think, I think, with the, with the the idea that people coming into class and saying, Oh, well, last week, I was in pain afterwards, you know, the what she mentioned, which I thought was really obvious but needed to be heard. She said, you know, if you're in the gym lifting and you like, tweak your back, obviously you're going to say, well, I shouldn't do that again. No, no problem, of course. But that was probably not that was the moment that things were stressed to the point of ouch. But that wasn't the only moment. There are definitely other things leading up to that exact moment of when, when your body is, like, we're done trying to hold it together here, now you're in pain. And she said, so, so there's other movements that you're probably doing in your life that are, it's cumulative, right? It's, it's, it's adding up over time, and then bam, maybe the moment that it happened was in a class when you're probably doing something particular that you wouldn't be normally doing, like doing a headstand, or whatever it might be, you know, being on one leg, you know, the, the, but, that's probably not where it started. Lesley Logan 26:16  I think we could all agree in this moment where we're not in pain, right? I hurt my knee doing a deadlift. When I hired my trainer, I said, Yeah, I've been dead lifting a lot lighter because it doesn't bother my knee. But the actual thing that's bothering my knee is the fact that I had weak inner thighs and hamstrings compared to my quads, and then the way my gait is on that leg, that's why my knee hurt. It just so happened that I felt the pain doing the deadlift. The deadlift is actually not the problem my form and my deadlift is not the problem. It is an in-balance and muscles on that leg. And so what can we be doing to make sure that we're taking, like, consistent care of ourselves, and then when we hear, when we feel pain, really doing some sort of creating, some sort of like, okay, hold on, what's my sleep like, what's my intake like, what's my fuel like, have I been consistent? So if you are someone who, like, doesn't work out for a week, and then goes and works out hard, like, I got to get in it, just so, you know, you're going to be in some pain afterwards because you didn't have consistency going into it. So, you know, just do some reflection before you go, oh, that's a problem.Brad Crowell 27:20  Speak about reflection, which, which is, this is pretty funny for, for if you have people coming in and saying, well, last time I did this, I hurt. Lesley Logan 27:29  Or if you are that person. Brad Crowell 27:30  Yeah or if you are that person, do you wake up and hurt like, should this? Does that mean you shouldn't sleep like? You know what I mean, the logic doesn't apply here. I just heard like. Lesley Logan 27:43  So this has nothing to do with that, but it's just my brain thing. Okay?. So this person goes, like, this, like, thing I saw. This person goes, I need to go on a vacation. And this other person goes, did you just come back from a vacation? And then it's like, you should just say, Did you have lunch yesterday? And they're like, yeah, that does that mean you need lunch today? Right? Like, yeah, like, you're if you're.Brad Crowell 28:06  Like, obviously, you're not gonna say, Well, I guess I shouldn't sleep because, because maybe you just slept on your shoulder, weird, or whatever. And also, too, it doesn't (inaudible) it also doesn't mean that your shoulder is broken or jacked up. It means you stressed it improperly for an extended period of time. Maybe you were sleeping on it weird, right? And how, like, you know, you know how that is, you know how that that feeling is. It could be your ankle or something where it takes a couple of hours for it to work itself out. And what's happening there, which I which I thought was interesting. She talks about how pain. It's a signal from the brain saying something is not 100% correct here. Something is not 100% correct here. Just a reminder. A reminder, a reminder.Lesley Logan 28:50  It's like, when you hit the button and the community goes, er, and you're like, let me hit that again, it goes, er, and you're like, I don't know why I'm expecting something different. Brad Crowell 28:58  Yeah, well, and here's how this, here's how this relates to what I loved. She said. She said, the more we don't use it, we lose it, right? You use it or lose it. You've heard that phrase a million times. But she said the thing that was that frustrates her the most is when she her clients come to her and say, the doctor told me I'm not allowed to do this anymore, right? The thing, whatever the thing is, and this is what related to me because, you know, a couple months, Well, geez, in February of this year, it's now, you know, November, I started to feel pain in my foot, in the top of my foot, it was like this pulling pain. It felt like fascia or nerves. I couldn't decide. I still can't decide. And for a long, long time, I just stopped things. I just stopped doing, you know, like, the pointing of my toe, stopped it. All the stuff that you do in yoga class, stopped it. I was like, I need some time off. Well, I gave up the time off, and it didn't fix it, right? So, then what? Then what it was the next thing we do? Started going to the chiropractor. Chiropractor couldn't figure out what's going on, right there. She's like, Hey, you're you're aligned. What are you talking about, right? So, you know, then I was like, must be these other things. So I'm starting to massage myself. I'm doing all this stuff. And then a couple, like, two months ago, I just decided, You know what, I'm just gonna get warm and I'm gonna keep using my foot. I'm just gonna keep using it. Because, you know, one of the things that she said is especially being pregnant a second time, she leaned into, you know, doing her workouts, when her body was was starting to, like, freak out, but her body was going through a major change, and she said, you know, maybe she modified the exercise, but she always felt better after doing her workout, despite being told, you know, you know, her body, you know, sending a signal. And I think, I think that we have to be careful with this. You know, same for me, I have to actually be careful with this. It's not no pain, no gain, yeah, it's not real. I don't agree with that. It's also, you know, there are, there are moments where your body is is trying to warn you on something, but you need to be able to decide for what that is and and understand, right? Is it like pain to the point of like damage, or are we talking that, that signal of warning, you know, that's like, Oh, you have to be cautious, right? Lesley Logan 31:12  Yeah. Well, it makes it so this morning, I was doing my first Pilates practice on the Reformer in three weeks. And I did not I was like, man, I got my Spine Corrector, and I was like, this not feel awesome. It didn't hurt. It just was like, right? And then I got in the Reformer, and the first overhead kind of was like, but then the second one felt better and the third one felt better. So it's not, it is no no pain, no gain. But is you, if you have a consistent practice of any kind of movement. When you start going, you know, if your body is telling you, this is not a good day or, Oh, hold on, this is opening up. I'm warming up to it. And so when I was doing tendon stretch on the Reformer, normally, I do a single leg tendon stretch. And I did tendon stretch. I did three, and I was like, I in no way feel safe, to lift a leg off. I'm gonna do four more and get off. I got to headstand. I did all the things but the actual headstand, because I have a consistent enough practice in my body, I could tell that I'm going to feel better when it's over, but I'm not pushing myself to do something it shouldn't do. And that just comes with time. It just comes with listening to your body. So, you gotta do that.Brad Crowell 32:20  Yeah, I mean, you know, she said something that I also thought was interesting, that we never, that I never thought about before. She said, clearly, the outside of our bodies change, our faces sag, or we get wrinkles, things, lalala, why would we never, why would we expect that there are no internal changes as well, right? And she was talking about, you know, joint degeneration, and, you know, all those kinds of things which are natural and they happen, you know, discs in your back, compression, all that kind of stuff. But the only way to age gracefully, despite your body deteriorating is strength. Is strong muscles, right? And so we still should be we need to be prioritizing that in our lives now so that we can be moving with ease as we age.Lesley Logan 33:11  Yeah, no, it's so and that's just it, you guys, you will never stop having to sleep enough drink, enough water and strengthen your muscles like that you're, so sorry, guaranteed in life until we no longer get to live on this beautiful planet. So, there you go.Brad Crowell 33:28  Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into those Be It Action Items that we got from Dr. Jen Fit. Brad Crowell 33:35  All right, welcome back. Let's dig into these Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items. Can we take away from your conversation with Dr. Jen Fraboni? She explicitly advised against relying on passive stretching as a primary solution for pain, even though it can feel good and relaxing, she said it's better to create stability, that is the fundamental requirement for the body to feel safe. So you were talking about the off balance muscles that you had, which is why your lifting was feeling pain, because you were unstable. Your one muscles, your one set of muscles, were stronger than the other set of muscles. She said, when you create stability, it creates a sense of safety. And she recommends focusing on active stretching, isometric holds and strengthening exercises. She highlighted Pilates as a modality that is great at creating stability and teaching the body safety, especially in the initial phases of pain recovery. So yay for Pilates. That's fantastic. What about you? Go ahead, go ahead.Lesley Logan 34:37  I was gonna say, like today, we were in yoga, and my left hamstring just would not open up. And the reality is my left hip just feeling unstable. That's why we're headed to the chiropractor after this. And it's like, I cannot open up this hamstring when my pelvis is out. And so I just really like, that was such a that's such a takeaway for me. I love that Be It Action Item. So be mindful of the passive stretching, my loves. Just be mindful. I love, this is great, t only way that we start to know how to move forward is if we tune in first. So it's really, this is this kind of goes back to, like a Brad BizJack's episode, actually, and that and that, maybe he didn't say it in this episode, but he has said it in something that I've heard of him before, which is, but go listen to that episode anyways, he's like, you would never, you would never just like, go get in the car and drive somewhere without having, like, a destination in mind. Unlike most people, don't check in with how they feel before they like move their body. They just start moving their body like they're not tuning in. So before you set a goal, before you do things, you have to kind of go inward first, so that you know where you're putting your compass, where you're putting your directions, where you're moving forward to. So otherwise you're like, oh, maybe I should do if you don't tune in first, you're gonna be the person who's like, oh, the hot new thing is Jiu Jitsu, and I'm doing Jiu Jitsu, and then that new hot thing is this box thing on a trampoline, like you're not going to actually be able to look at a movement modality and go, oh, that's what my body needs. You'll just be like, going hopping from one thing to the next expecting a quick fix. So I did love that one. And then she really, she advised onto every day to take five deep, long, slow breaths, mouth closed, and focus on taking breath into the sides of your rib cage. OPC members know this. Brad Crowell 36:24  Diaphragmatic breathing. Lesley Logan 36:26  And avoid breathing into your shoulders, neck or chest. Otherwise you're gonna feel stressed. But if you take these deep breaths, you often will see that the pain starts to diminish. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 36:35  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 36:36  I really hope this was helpful, especially if pain is part of your daily life, it is really hard to be it till you see it in that kind of state. And so hopefully this gave you some tips, gave you some ideas, gave you some permission and share it with a friend who needs to hear it, especially one who's like this topic is like, what they're needing right now. It's, I don't know, there's just so much permission in this episode. Until next time, Be It Till You see it. Brad Crowell 36:55  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 36:57  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 37:39  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 37:44  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 37:49  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 37:56  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 37:59  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Lesley Logan 38:11  I don't know if we're doing a second one next year. We're gonna try, but you know, we'll see. Brad Crowell 38:16  You are just making up the URLs here. Lesley Logan 38:19  I'm not. Lesley Logan 38:19  Yeah, crowsnestretreats.com. 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Lesley sits down with Dr. Jen Fraboni, PT, DPT—better known as DocJenFit—to change how you think about pain. Instead of seeing it as a problem, Jen reveals how pain is your body's protective alarm asking for attention, not avoidance. Together, they unpack how stress, sleep, movement, and breath all shape what you feel day to day—and how small shifts can help you feel safer and stronger. Whether you're postpartum, navigating chronic aches, or simply tired of “powering through,” this episode will help you move with confidence and compassion for your body.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How to recognize pain as a helpful body signal, not a threat.How stress, sleep, and nutrition influence your daily pain levels.Why MRI or scan results don't always predict how you feel.How postpartum movement and breath restore stability and confidence.Why building strength creates long-term safety better than stretching alone.Episode References/Links:Dr. Jen Fraboni's Website - https://jen.healthDr. Jen Fraboni's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/docjenfitDr. Jen Fraboni's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCknKMzugCaPXD4AI6rq3wiQDr. Jen Fraboni's TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@docjenfitTiny Habits by BJ Fogg - https://a.co/d/56xwXLNGuest Bio:Dr. Jen Fraboni, PT, DPT, is an internationally-renown physical therapist who specializes in helping people overcome chronic pain and maximize physical performance. As the founder of the new platform and app, “Jen.Health,” she brings a unique, whole body approach to strength, mobility and pain-free living. In 2019, Jen was named one of the top 50 most influential healthcare professionals. Jen's easily accessible approach has garnered her more than half a million followers on social media and millions of views of her health and fitness videos. Jen has been featured in Shape Magazine, Self Magazine, Men's Fitness and Muscle and Fitness and in 2020, graced the cover of Oxygen Magazine. During the pandemic, she helped ease back pain with her feature on Good Morning America and NBC. 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We're neglecting something. We need to add something in. And yet, when we have pain, we automatically think something is wrong, something is bad, which, sometimes, sure, but most of the time it's just an alarm, especially you didn't get an accident, nothing happened immediately. This is just another signal to the brain that, hey, we're neglecting something in the body.Lesley Logan 0:29  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:12  All right, Be It babe. This is gonna be an epic episode. Really, truly, so excited to have this amazing woman on. I got so excited about all the education information she was giving us. I didn't give her a proper bio, and you'll get one on Thursday, for sure. But just know that Docjenfit is our guest today, and she has been named one of the top 50 healthcare professionals in the US. Like she's amazing, she's wonderful, and she has a really great, amazing outlook on how we can look at pain in our bodies. And when it comes to being it till you see it, there's just so many factors, right? We can give you all the strategies and all the meditations and all the journals in the world, but like, if you feel pain in your body, it could literally be the thing that holds you back. And I can't have that. We can't have that around here. So Docjenfit is going to educate us and give us some inspiration and some options in our life and ways to think about pain that I think you're going to change your life and help you be it till you see it. So here she is. Lesley Logan 1:59  Be It babe. This is this is going to be fun. This is a more like a dream come true. This is a little bit of fan girling, because in the world that I lived in in Los Angeles, I got to see this woman, kind of from afar, sometimes right next to me in work at the same places, and she is just like, just the person who's been so authentically themselves, helping people in the best way, in a different avenue than I do in the fitness world, but just in a way that I so respect and so admire, and watching her grow year after year has been absolutely wonderful and awe inspiring. Jen Fraboni, Docjenfit, holy fucking molly. Thanks for being here. Dr. Jen Fraboni 2:33  Thank you so much for having me.Lesley Logan 2:36  Okay, in case people have no idea who you are. Can't can't believe it, but it could be true. Can you tell everyone what you rock at? Dr. Jen Fraboni 2:42  Yeah, I am a physical therapist. My handle is Docjenfit across the board. So Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, all the places. And I help empower people to move in a different way in their bodies than they might not have known, to hopefully find ways that they could relieve pain and move better, move more efficiently.Lesley Logan 3:05  Yeah, because I think, like, similarly, I'll meet a lot of people, they'll come in and they'll have pain, and there's certain things that they want to do. And as a Pilates instructor, as much as knowledge as I have, there's some things like way outside my scope. But also I think sometimes pain becomes something that really holds us back. And I watch people sometimes, like, hold on to the pain or have a story around it. And it can be hard to watch that, because you're like, you have so much potential, you have so much stuff you could do in this world, but the pain is holding you back. Can you chat about, like, what when people have pain in their body? Like, what have you seen it negatively do and affecting their lives and like what they're capable of?Dr. Jen Fraboni 3:44  Pain is hard, because what should be thought as a good alert system within our body, just like anything else, our stomach grumbles when we're hungry. We yawn when we're tired. You know, our body is constantly giving us signals that something needs to change. We're neglecting something. We need to add something in. And yet, when we have pain, we automatically think something is wrong, something is bad, which sometimes, sure, but most of the time it's just an alarm, especially you didn't get an accident, nothing happened immediately. This is just another signal to the brain that, hey, we're neglecting something in the body, and it's not necessarily bad, but I'm protecting you in case it turns into bad. So if we can start to see it more as that protective mechanism, rather than, oh my gosh, something is damaged. Something is horrible. I have broken like, you know, my spine is popping. Whatever things that we say in our mind about when we feel it, if we could just say, oh, that is a that's a protective mechanism so that it doesn't become bad, and then we start acting upon it and moving into it. I think the number one thing that pops up for people is is that it is horrible. It's bad. I need to stop moving, I need to stop doing whatever I just did. That's going to damage it. I'm creating more damage if I feel the pain. You know, all these stories that we continue to tell ourselves, and sometimes it has nothing to do with the tissue. Yes, the tissue is involved, but there are neuro tags that our brain creates based on little things that pop up within our body, and when we're stressed, when we don't drink enough water, we're not sleeping enough we're not putting good nutrients within our body. And we're constantly kind of in this cycle of either under eating or under fueling, not getting enough nutrients, not I'm constantly going for takeout or processed food because I just don't have time, you know, all these different things that start to happen, and then our lives can create or increase those symptoms and increase those signals to the brain, and we start living in that pain, and we feel it a little bit more amplified. So it's not even always the tissue. But you know, I think the number one thing that happens is that we we fear that we're creating more damage anytime we move and feel pain.Lesley Logan 6:09  Okay, this is, there's so many different things in there, but like that is really enlightening to me. It makes because, okay, so in 2013, 2013, 2014 that's in 2014, 2014 I fractured my tibial plateau running. Yeah, I just retired from being sponsored. I told my sponsor, like, I'm done. Like I actually, I got slower in there. Somehow I got happy. I can't run that hard anymore. Can't do it. And then, of course, I'm like, didn't understand the depth of a curb thing, and I hyper-extended my knee, awful, terrible. And I'm really lucky it was a non surgical situation. And your whole your my brain went through all the fears, like, am I gonna walk again? Am I gonna run again? Is it gonna affect it? Like you're the whole thing goes crazy. And I was just like, having to go this battle of like, you actually are gonna walk again, like you're, this is so, like, you're just off your leg for eight weeks. Like, out of everything that's going on, like this battle with my brain, and I was working with a really amazing trainer, and, you know, I was able to put body weight back in that leg. He was giving me some squats and some things, all fine, all released from the doctor, all able to do and I would go, anytime it was new, I go, oh, that hurts. Oh, that hurts. And he finally said to me, is it hard or does it hurt? And I think it goes to your point with pain, sometimes we also just confuse, like, is my brain actually saying I'm in pain, or am I coming up against a challenge that I feel uncomfortable with? And it turned out that, like, No, it wasn't actually pain. It was just uncomfortable and it was hard, and I hadn't had to deal with hard workouts in a while like I had. Dr. Jen Fraboni 7:45  And it's scary. It's scary coming back in and you're, you don't want to do something where you're like, Well, I don't want this to be my life. So I'm, I'm afraid.Lesley Logan 7:55  Yeah, yeah. And then like, you know, I think about some of the clients I have where they would come back and they would go, Oh, we did after Pilates, this hurt. And I was like, Okay, I'm looking at the exercise we did, and I have to go, Okay, can you tell me what you did before Pilates, what you did after Pilates? Oh, I was organizing my garage. I'm like, do you think perhaps maybe it might have been the garage, but, you know, I think, so then people go to your point, they're like, I can't do that again, versus, like, what is it telling me? What do I need to do? What imbalances do we might have? Okay, so then I guess my question is, like, how do we how do we do that? How do we explore like, in ourselves or with with those of us who, because some people who are listening, have friends or family who are like, constantly in pain or something constantly hurts. Like, when are we indulging it too much, and when are we like not listening to it? I guess it could be on either (inaudible).Dr. Jen Fraboni 8:45  Yes, that's a really great question, because it's so true. Sometimes we have those pain responses and we're like, kick it down the road. Kick it down the road, whatever, both of them. We got to listen to all of it. That's the whole point, right? It's a signal from our body, so we don't want to ignore it, but we don't want to fear it. So that's where we have to say, okay, my body's trying to tell me something. What is it that I'm neglecting? Let's start at just the base of everything, right? If I am not moving much in general, I have been super stressed. I'm I go to work, I sit in a car for an hour. I sit at my desk, I come home, I have so many a million responsibilities to take care of. I have kids that need me. I'm lifting, I'm grocery shopping, so I'm still lifting and moving and picking up kids or doing whatever, but I'm not actively training my body for any of those things, and now I'm doing it in a state of stress. So all of that combined is just a recipe for your body to be overdone, overdoing it. And once our our brains start like those signals can only take so much, and usually they're filtering it out. There's not enough, you know, just like outside noise, like, there's not enough to take in all of the noises all around. So your brain filters a lot of things out, a lot of unnecessary things. When things become when your brain's like, this is getting to a point where something has to change or else this is going to be bad. That's when it can no longer filter it out. And so all of a sudden we start to get that pain response that's like, normally would be resting right down here. We wouldn't really be paying attention to it. It wouldn't really be a big deal. But all of a sudden you bend down, you pick up that pencil, and your back feels like it just broke. It just went out. It wasn't the bending down and picking up the pencil, it was all these little things along the way that we were not paying attention to until your brain was finally like, Nope, you got to listen. This is this is not okay anymore. And maybe it didn't come with a disc herniation. However, we know that a disc herniation can be there prior as well, and there are studies that show all the way to 20s, all the way into your 20s, you can see disc degeneration on an MRI. You can see disc herniations on MRIs, and it increases as we increase with age. So up to 80s, you're going to see like, I mean, gosh, I wish I had the stats with me right now. But I think in your 60s, you could see up to 80% of people have disc degeneration and no pain. Lesley Logan 11:21  Whoa. Dr. Jen Fraboni 11:23  So it's crazy the numbers, but we have to realize, just like the outside of my body is going to change, my face is going to start to sag my I'm going to start to get wrinkles, changes are going to happen externally. Why would we not expect changes to happen internally? Lesley Logan 11:37  Yeah, yeah. Dr. Jen Fraboni 11:39  Like that that's a part of the process. So we're going to have different changes on an MRI. That's fine, and maybe it's part of your story. Maybe it's part of your pain journey, but it might be have been there prior to pain. So we can't just blame an MRI. We can't just blame an image when we don't know if that's new. We don't know if that's always been there, but what we can now start to do is say, Okay, what have I been neglecting? Am I super stressed? Am I not sleeping? Have I not been moving? Am I not am I maybe going to the gym, going hard, but I'm taking zero time for recovery? Am I always pushing to failure? Because that's what I hear I need to do now that I'm getting older, and I need a strength train, and I need to push my body to failure. But am I doing that every single time I go to the gym? Am I hearing, oh, I'm supposed to be doing these HIIT workouts in high intensity, because that's good for my bone health. But have I not progressed and eased my body into it? So all of these things, we have to start to take into account. Where have I what have I been neglecting? What am I not doing enough of that I can just at least start with the baseline level and say, Okay, thank you brain for alerting me that something needs to change. Thank you brain for telling me that enough is enough, and this isn't necessarily a bad thing, but what can I be doing that I'm neglecting and I can put myself on plenty examples as well. So, for example, my my second pregnancy, I felt all the things in my pelvis, lots of different changes with the hormones and different sensations that would pop up. I don't necessarily like to call it pain, but different sensations that my body was telling me about. And each of those experiences, I could then say, oh, I should not work out today. I should not lift that would be bad. And I did the opposite. And every time I moved in, not into the pain, but into opening up my hips more or loading in a different way. I still lifted weight, but I lifted differently. Maybe I'm not doing a barbell deadlift and going as heavy as I can, but I'm doing a controlled, a controlled deadlift with both legs and a wider stance so that I can open up through my hips and my pelvis a little bit more, and really use my breath to drive up and create that stability in my pelvis that I feel like I'm missing and I'm really needing. Maybe I can add some targeted lunges or step downs that really help to build support in my pelvis and my glutes so that I'm really supporting my body. Maybe I could do some different core things to really add in that stability that I know my body is going into more laxity, because I have a lot more relaxing within my body as I'm as I'm pregnant, and every single time I did movement instead of stopping, I felt better afterwards. Lesley Logan 14:35  Yeah, yeah. I mean, I believe I've never had children, but like, I have also, like, been so tight in my upper back because we do tours, and we're driving the van for the last tour was 36 days. And, you know, yes, I have a (inaudible), yes, we do all the things. Yes, I move my body, but you just, there's only so much you can do after 36 days of you know that? And I absolutely was, like, I should not have signed up for that workout. I probably shouldn't have done my Pilates, and I found myself every with every rolling like a ball, and every seal my thoracic spine just opening up, and it's like, oh, now I'm feel so much better. But it's true. It's like you might have to take a different approach, or you might have to and and we should and this is where that all or nothing mindset, I think, is affecting everybody. Like, it affects not just the way we deal with pain, but like, the way we get into workouts, the way we see if a workout is good or not. Like, it's not about doing what you did yesterday when you're pain free, but maybe going in slow or having a longer warm up, or being more intentional with your breath and then seeing how it's going. But I think it's, I mean, this is your life's mission. How do you get people to listen to their body?Dr. Jen Fraboni 15:44  I know it's hard. The first key is, let's not, let's not be afraid of pain. I mean, I think that that goes for everyone. Let's not be afraid of the MRI either, because we're going to have internal changes on on the body, and that's okay. My husband and I even just did a podcast yesterday on the straightening of the cervical spine, because everyone is afraid. Sometimes you'll go into an office and they'll do an x ray, they'll say, Oh, your your neck is straight. That's why you're getting neck pain. But we have so many studies that show people who have straight spines have no pain. So again, could it be a part of your story? Sure, is it the whole thing? No, because if there's someone out there who has a straight neck and no pain, that doesn't mean that you have a straight neck and pain, right, like that we have to be looking at things can be correlated. It doesn't mean it's the cause. Lesley Logan 16:34  Yeah, yeah. Dr. Jen Fraboni 16:36  And that's what I really want people to hear people who have disc herniations will show up on an MRI and not have pain. People who have osteoarthritis, 43% of people can have osteoarthritis on an MRI and have no pain. So again, not saying, not not discounting that that's a part of your body journey, but it's possible to be in that percentage of people who don't have pain. How do you get there? That's what we want to be focusing on. How do I get there? Right?Lesley Logan 17:03  Yeah. Oh, I love this. It's like, it's like, okay, so you, you, you might be someone with osteoporosis and pain, but the two of them might not actually be connected. It could be. But also, what if we take a moment to think about like, I have osteoporosis, but I also can explore other avenues that could reduce the pain? Dr. Jen Fraboni 17:20  Yes, yes, and it takes a mindset, a mind a mind shift. Lesley Logan 17:30  Yeah, mindset shift got it. Yes, no, it's okay. We'll do this together.Dr. Jen Fraboni 17:35  It takes shifting that mindset of what you're telling yourself and what is wrong and what is bad into saying, okay, what can I explore because of this? What can I do because of this? And that's where, okay, we have to say, if I'm rounding down to the floor and getting pain, what can I be doing that's different? Can, am I sitting a lot? Again, I can do myself as another example. Right now, actually, I am experiencing radiating symptoms into my right glute. So that means I'm I am feeling like a line of pain down into my glutes, sometimes a little further. So I know that's likely coming from my back. A nerve is sending some lightning signals into my glute. Now, I am fully exclusively breastfeeding right now, which means that I am sitting in positions a lot throughout the day where I'm rounded and on, like cuddling into my little babe as I'm breastfeeding, not always in the most ideal position, but kind of sitting like a little shrimp. And so majority of the day, I'm like that. And a lot of times for work, I am sitting at the computer and working. I try to get up, I try to take breaks, I do all the things, but I know that I'm neglecting some things. And so even the other the two days ago, when it really started, I would get out of bed and almost like it felt like my leg didn't want to hold me up. So it felt like it wasn't just nerve related, but it was now starting to affect how my muscles were responding as well. And so it can feel really scary, like, oh my gosh, just stepping out of bed, I'm going to collapse onto the floor, or I'm feeling as I'm rounding and picking up my son, I'm getting a lot of pain. That's bad. I should not deadlift, I should not bend my spine. I should not, you know, we could start telling ourselves, because this pattern equals pain, I shouldn't do this. Instead, I'm saying, Okay, what have I been neglecting? Now I'm spending a lot more time in extension. So if I'm on my phone, I'm going to lay on my couch and it prop my elbows and look at my phone that way. So I'm putting my spine in the opposite position that it's typically in throughout the day, and I'm spending time relaxing there and breathing there. I'm spending time opening up my hip flexors, opening up my rib cage, opening up tension relaxing through my front of my body, since I know that I'm spending a lot of time in that shrimp position. But on top of that, I have to create stability in a new way so my body feels safe. So I'm also adding in a lot of core stabilization. I'm adding in a lot of hip stability through my warm ups, and then I'm lifting, and I'm not shying away, because I'm listening and I'm modifying if I need to, but I'm lifting, and, and I still feel it a little bit today, but not as bad. And we also have to know that some things take time. There's no one magic fix. There's no one give me the one exercise for my for my disc herniation. I can't tell you that. It depends on what your body needs. What have you been neglecting? Are you neglecting your hip mobility? Are you neglecting your upper back mobility? Are you breathing from your rib cage? Are you stabilizing through your core? Are you, you know, can we move a little bit different in an exercise so that you can feel a little bit different? Can we change the range of motion? Can we change the load? There's so many aspects that we could be changing for you, it's hard to say what each individual needs. And at the same time, I just don't stop moving. The more that we stop moving, the more that your body's going to feel, because the one thing that helps us to feel better is getting fluids to move. Is getting our lymphatic system moving, is getting, you know, our even our blood going up to our brain, things. We want oxygen. We want things moving in our body so that we start to feel something different. Another thing I'm super neglecting is sleep. I know that's a huge, big thing for me. I'm staying up late so I could pump before I go to bed. Sometimes my son still wakes up. I wake up early. I'm burning at both ends from not sleeping enough. That's a huge contributor to pain. So we have to take into account other stressors in our life, and some things we can change. Some things are harder, but we have to get really honest with ourselves and say, what is it that I'm not doing that I could be doing for my body in general?Lesley Logan 22:13  Yeah, so Jen, I love this because, like, first of all, I appreciate you sharing your stories, because I always what I get a lot, especially since and I think it's because people can say it and I don't. I can't really argue. I don't have children. You have two kids, one of them whom you're nursing. And like, the thing that I always say is, like, if you like, have a newborn, like, you obviously have to take care of the newborn. But also, like, none of us are good to anyone sick or in pain like zero. I truly believe that self-care is an act of self-love. I will die on this hill. And I really don't think you can love others as as generously as you want if you don't love yourself that way. And so, but also, you're in a very different season in your motherhood journey, where you are breastfeeding, and so I guess, like for the moms listening, or the people who are like really trying, who put so many other people's lives before themselves, like, how do you do that? Because I know you have the mom guilt. They gave it to you when you had the kids. So like, how do you how? Like, yes, it's your job, but also, like, you're a human being. How do you keep that all going?Dr. Jen Fraboni 23:17  So I'm very fortunate to have support. We have support. I could be on this podcast, because we have support, right? So my husband and I can work during the day, and we have people watching our children, and so we're very grateful for that. I have to acknowledge that, right? And within that time period, I take 30 minutes out of where I would be working to work out. 30 minutes. It doesn't have to be a lot of time when we do it efficiently and we learn what we need for our individual body. I also, because I talked about the sleep thing, and that's lacking for me, my accountability and motivation not very high right now, to show up for myself, and I know that for myself right now. So the number one thing I I'm doing right now is I met someone actually on a mom app called Peanut and she comes and works out with me before she goes and picks up her after her work day, and before she picks up her son from daycare, and we work out together. And I know she's coming at the same time almost every day, and she is like, if she's showing up, I'm obviously showing up, and we're doing that 30 minute workout together, and I have that accountability to get off my butt and do it, because I can just, Oh, I'll eat a little bit more, I'll work a little bit more, I'll do a little you know, I can make up all the excuses because I'm tired and I get it, I'm in it, like, I don't want to do it either, but I do want to do it because it's going to make me feel so much better after. So I think understanding what is it that you need. We know, I think we know by now that motivation isn't the thing that's going to get us to move, right? We know this, but what is the thing that's going to get you to move? Is that the accountability? I've also told myself I need to be moving a little bit more. So my accountability also is, I am posting every morning that I'm taking a walk. And I asked other people who wants to join me take a walk, I'm going to post every morning that I'm taking a walk. That's my accountability. If I don't post. You know, I didn't walk, and so I'm I'm showing up on stories and just saying, got my morning walk in 10 to 15 minutes. It doesn't have to be long, right? I throw my kids in a stroller and I go for a walk. So what is it that we can be doing that creates that, that deeper accountability? Again, it doesn't have to be a long time, even if you're like, I don't have 30 minutes. Okay, do you have five to 10 minutes. Can you use your your kid and do a couple lunges and squats with them? Trust me, kids love to be used as weights. It's super fun for them. What is the thing that we could be doing? I do my mobility on the floor in the playroom when they're moving around. So there's always a time. Yeah, it's just, how are we creating that space within our life to to commit? Lesley Logan 26:05  Yeah, I You're so right during the pandemic. I studied with BJ Fogg and his team, his the author of Tiny Habits and Stanford science, like behavioral sciences on habits like be the person, right? And he literally said, motivation is the friend you want to go to a party, but you never have them pick you up at the airport. It's unreliable, and then and it's like, just when you think about that, whenever I hear people I don't have enough motivation. I'm like, like, motivation is what you need to, like, push them up a hill real quick, but like, you can't. It's not the thing. And so the other thing that I know from Habits is how we talk to ourselves about something actually, is why where the brain starts to look for opportunities. So I, because I because I know how good I'll feel right and I know what that's gonna do. My brain is like, oh, oh, I could go. I could do this movement here. I have 30 extra minutes I could do. I'm like, seeking out little increments in a busy season, because my brain knows you're gonna get a dopamine hit if you do this here. But if, whenever you think about the things you should be doing in a negative way, oh, I should be moving more. I should be exercising more, and you put all this shit on yourself and this pressure, it stresses your brain. Your brain goes, oh, working out, moving my body, that causes stress, shame, guilt. I don't like to feel that. So you actually don't look for those things. We have to actually trick our brain into seeing opportunities for movement. And so I love that you shared all these different ways, and also what you're using right now, because it's going to be different from for all of us, depending on where our seasons are, depending if you're traveling or not, but it doesn't I am so with you. It does not have to be an hour chunk at one time, like that is a luxury a lot of people don't have, and you might have it one day a week, but not other days a week. And I'm just a big fan of, like, someone always asked me, like, how often should I do Pilates? And I'm like, I'd rather do four 15-minute sessions in a week than one one-hour like, I just would. It's just going to have way more benefits. So I appreciate you talking about the different minutes, and also, like what you're doing right now in your seasons, because it, it does help people start to think, Oh, I could do that, oh I could do 15 minutes. Oh I could pick my kid up, or I could go for a walk with a friend. I have a neighbor who would walk with me every morning, if I would, if I would get up a little later, and I'm like, this is too hot for me right now. So, so. But you know what? If that's if you are someone who needs someone, you're not sure so you can rely on someone, I promise you, get a dog teach him for two weeks to go for a walk in the morning, they will wake you up. They're, my dog knows what time it is. He knows it's time for a walk. So. Dr. Jen Fraboni 26:06  I love that. Lesley Logan 26:41  Okay, so you know this is an incredible journey that you are going on, and what you've been and the gifts that you've been giving people like you've been doing this a really long time. What are you excited about right now? Like, where are you taking this? Where are you taking, like, your education, helping people with their pain?Dr. Jen Fraboni 28:50  You know, my number one thing is to provide ways right now as to okay, if this hurts, how can we do it different? So the number one thing people always tell me when they go through my courses and my plans and everything is that the way UQ lit up, something in my brain that told me I can do it, something different, and I felt completely different, no knee pain, no back pain, because I did, you know, and so doing some of these common things a little bit more uncommon, A little bit different than maybe what you've been told or what you've seen or what you've done in the past can make a huge impact, so that you continue to move forward and you feel better within your body. I think I've grown because people know me as mobility. People know me as but the problem with that is that people believe that stretching and just passive stretching, and it's so not and so sometimes, you know, I even have family members here. Like the other day, my niece is like, going for cheer right now, and she said, Oh, this area within my inner thigh, so, like her groin area was hurting and I was doing a lot of stretching, and I'm like, why are you stretching it? Don't stretch it. Not bad. I don't wanna say it's bad, but it's not gonna be helpful when she needs to be active in her sport in order to get back to what she wants to do. And so a lot of times, we need either active stretching or we need isometric hold. We need strengthening. We need stability within the body. Again, remember that when we have pain, our body wants to feel safe. So a lot of times, stretching though it can feel good, it can feel relaxing, it can help to temporarily reduce pain symptoms. A lot of times, it's not the thing that's going to help the body to feel secure and safe moving forward. And so what we need is great stability. Pilates is great at creating stability. Pilates is great at teaching the body some safety. So a lot of times in those initial phases, especially getting more stability, more isometric holds, more higher reps, lower weight, that kind of thing is going to be better in in the very beginning stages, when we're feeling that pain and creating that safety for the body, before we start loading more, or before we start doing it, or before we start doing really aggressive stretches. I don't even know. I think I went off on a tangent.Lesley Logan 31:15  It's okay, you're clear. I asked what you're excited about right now, and that's it.Dr. Jen Fraboni 31:20  Yes, yes. Continuing to educate people on on a different way to move their body and hopefully get out of pain. I just, I want to stick with pain, and some people tell me that's limiting and and I, I know, but so many people experience pain, and if I could just teach people how to listen to their body a little differently and not fear pain, I that that would be such a gift.Lesley Logan 31:40  I mean, it's really funny what people like to say, like, they like to say, oh, you can't, can't just do that, or that's really limiting, or whatever it is. Like, you know, this particular week that we're recording this, like, I gotta be in my bonnet because somebody, like, said, like, oh, like, someone just commented negatively on one of my Pilates instructors who works for me, and about their their body. Well, I can see that Pilates is really working. Pilate is really working for your for your body, and to something nasty, right? And I got so pissed about it. And then, like, and then I was like, while we're on the topic, there's also no such thing as Pilates arms, right? Like, there's just that's like, if you, like, I don't even want to say, have arms and do Pilates, because there you could do Pilates without arms. Like, you don't even have to have arms. So it's like, not a thing, right? Like, and so and so, it's like, it goes to where this tangent is going from my brain. It's like, people like to put things in boxes and then, and then, that's what it is for. That's what it does. And like, as, if you focusing on pain is so limiting. When pain is like, it is such a, like, I'm like, we could go to so many places, because there's people who like, literally, like, I have a family member in my life every day, something is in pain. I'm like, you are using pain to keep yourself from experiencing life, you know? And then there's also the other spectrum, where it's like, people who won't listen to it at all. You're like, I just want you to like, we don't do, yeah, I can see, like, you shouldn't do that anymore, so, but I so, I think it's really interesting how we people want to put boxes around things. And there, I don't say they're being a boxer, and I do think that, like, we know a lot more about stuff. Like, it used to be like, Oh, if that hurts, don't do anything, as if that's, you know, and I would watch clients whose doctors, like, you can't do anything with that. And I'm like, Okay, so now your foot has changed. Like, now that we haven't used it anymore, it's no longer, like, you have hammer toes now it's doing this thing. It's sickling. Like, can we go back to the doctor and ask for some other things we can do? Because, like, even though that's my scope, like, that foot is not helping. Now your hip's going weaker, and now your back is having problems. So I think we know a lot more now, and I'm really excited for what you're doing, because it does, it does give people a little bit more opportunities to change things before it gets to be something that can't be changed anymore. Am I right like?Dr. Jen Fraboni 33:55  I hope so that's the number one thing that boils my blood is whenever I would have a client come back and said, Oh, my doctor told me not to do that anymore, or not to do this anymore. And it's like, well, the more we don't use it, we lose it. So if, if you want to become fragile, if you want to, you know, age and be in more pain, then that's an option, but I hope that's not what you want, you know. And when it comes to joint health, the if your joints start to go which they are, that's part of aging, right? We're going to start to lose cartilage. They're going to start to wear and tear. That's, I hate that word, but it's true. I mean, we're, we're, they're going to change. It's part of aging. The only thing that is going to support you as those changes are happening, is muscle and being strong and having range of motion and mobility within your body. Yeah, if you don't have the mobility to move into those areas anymore, they're going to get stiffer and tighter. If you don't have the muscle strength to support it, your joints don't have any more room or cushion to support them themselves. So. What's going to happen? You're going to be in more pain, and you're not going to be able to do more things. If we stop moving and to our full ranges of motion, if we stop strengthening throughout our range of motion and and putting that tension across the tendons and the muscles and loading the joints, then we're going to end up in more pain.Lesley Logan 35:23  Yeah, yeah, yeah, you are. And this is not to knock, like, what some of the doctors say, because, like, I also think they're in a practice and they're operating on some interesting information. But I definitely would laugh when someone come and go, I'm not allowed to flex or extend my spine. And I'm like, how did you drive here today? Like, how did we how do we get here? And I just want you to notice that while you take your shoes off right now, you're in flexion. So can I, can I maybe get some permission to move you in a safe way, in those positions so that we can keep them? Yeah, I think that's that's like, thank goodness for you and the work that you're doing, and you do it in a way that actually makes people excited to think about their bodies. And I think that's so beautiful, because it's really hard to do in a world where people want a quick fix, they want the five in five days how do I get out of this? And it's like, Well, you probably didn't get into it. And I just really want to highlight, like, your your focus on like, what are all the other things we could be listening to, you know? And I think that that is something that, as you know, majority of the listeners on this show are women, and there's a few good men, but especially as women, especially as women, like we, tend to it starts with the sleep, and then it starts with the fueling of the food, and then it starts with lack of water. And then, you know, all of us, it's like it's a slow thing, and it's like there are some things we could actually maybe take a look at and be a little bit more priority based on those, even if we don't have time, and see how that affects the rest of our bodies. Dr. Jen Fraboni 36:41  1,000% Lesley Logan 36:43  Yeah, I really want to, like, talk to you for hours, but we're gonna take a brief break, and we're gonna find out how people can find you, follow you and work with you. Lesley Logan 36:49  All right, Docjenfit, where do you hang out? Where is your favorite place for people to connect with you, work with you. Do you have any programs that they can look into if they're interested in this?Dr. Jen Fraboni 37:00  Yeah. I mean the number one place, I check my DMs all the time. It's me, so docjenfit on Instagram is my number one place I hang out. I do upload Tiktok as well, but I don't check Tiktok, so don't try to reach out to me there. YouTube, I do look at comments there, so I get back to everyone there, but I feel like my community is on Instagram, and that's where I started. That's where everything is. So connect with me there if you have any questions, and I have Jen Health. So jen.health, there's no dot com or anything, or also look up the app Jen Health. And if you ever wanted to find something rather than scrolling my Instagram, you can go sign up on Jen Health. It's completely free to sign up. And we have a Discover tab where you can literally type in knee pain or knee and stairs or like low back pain or bending, or whatever it is that you want to and there's going to be something that pops up that can help you. Those are essentially my Instagram searchable. So all my recent posts always get uploaded there, and you can search freely as needed. We also have programs on there so that you're not just looking for a quick fix within those couple exercises that may or may not help, but you're the programs I created, because I'm not individually with you, but my low back plan, (inaudible) plan, is all about like, Okay, let's take a look at the entire system here and how it all can work into helping to improve and reduce low back pain. We're talking mobility stability from the ground up. We're talking strengthening progressively into the body and really building in key areas that are often neglected in five to 15 minutes a day. I'm not trying to take you away from your other workouts or your other life responsibilities, I'm trying to just sprinkle things in little by little, so that you are starting to introduce something different that you might have been neglecting in your body. I love all that that's so helpful. Lesley Logan 37:00  And I think it's really cool, because when people can take some ownership and explore and like also understand, I think the more we understand our body, the easier it is for us to actually like, communicate about what's going on with it, and also advocate for ourselves. If you do need to go see a doctor and they do tell you things, you can go you can advocate for or against or get a second opinion. You can have a lot more authority of yourself when those things do come up. So you're just so wonderful. Thank you for that. Okay, you have given us a lot already, but bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it, what do you have for us?Dr. Jen Fraboni 38:14  Everyday take a breath in to the sides of your rib cage, like not, not into your shoulders, not into your neck, not into your chest. Take a breath and think of closing your mouth, taking your breath, as if your breath is pulling back into your nasal cavity and expanding across your ribs. Sometimes I like to just take my hands on my rib cage, take five deep, long, slow breaths there. You're going to see how pain just starts to diminish. Stress starts to diminish. Things start to feel better within your body. And the only way that we start to know how to move forward is if we tune in first.Lesley Logan 40:00  Oh, my goodness. I love that. I love that so much. That's literally how I like people to breathe when they're in my classes. I just feel like I'm like, Ah, so much validation. I'm obsessed with you. Can you come around the world with me? Anyways, you're just, thank you so much, Jen, just for being you and what you do in this world, and also just being so authentic about how you're on this journey as a human being, so that everyone can also be on that journey with you, but also so that people can be empowered. I'm really, really grateful for you and all these amazing tips. Lesley Logan 40:28  Be It babes, how are going to use these tips in your life? I highly recommend following Docjenfit on Instagram. Make sure you tell her. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it, you know that friend who's always got something going on like just share it with them, because maybe they just need to hear from a different person that it doesn't have to always be what it is, doesn't have to be limiting. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 40:48  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, Doctors of Physical Therapy Doc Jen and Doctor Dom welcome wellness expert Liz Plosser to discuss practical strategies for health at every stage of life. They explore topics like nutrition, strength training, hydration, and how to make healthy choices accessible. Liz shares insights on protein intake, building sustainable nutrition habits, and navigating midlife changes, especially for women. The conversation blends science-backed advice with personal stories, emphasizing small, joyful steps toward optimal health, the importance of social connection, body love, and the value of self-compassion in creating lasting, positive health routines. Throughout the episode, nutrition is highlighted as a key component in supporting overall well-being and long-term vitality.VivoBarefoot Discount:Support your feet and ankles with VivoBarefoot shoes—with perfect styles for any occasion! Boost foot health through mobility and strength from the ground up. Use code OPTIMAL20 for 20% off. 100-day trial included—return if you're not satisfied!LMNT Electrolytes: Free Gift with Purchase!Stay hydrated and energized with LMNT electrolytes—sodium, potassium, and magnesium for brain and body. It's our favorite micro nutrition hack to get those essential minerals in! Get a free gift with every purchase and try new flavors! Get your Free Gift now!Liz's Resources:Liz's WebsiteLiz on IGLiz on YoutubeLiz on FacebookLiz's SubstackKion Amino AcidsWe think you'll love:Free Week of Jen HealthJen's InstagramYouTube ChannelFor full show notes and resources visit https://jen.health/podcast/435 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this Optimal Body Podcast episode, Dr. Jen and Dr. Dom, both Doctors of Physical Therapy, explore the science and clinical relevance of myofascial trains—continuous myofascial networks in the body. They discuss fascia's anatomy, its role in movement and pain, and the impact of manual therapies like myofascial release. Emphasizing the nervous system's influence, they caution against oversimplifying myofascial connections and advocate for individualized, evidence-based approaches. The hosts also review research on sling-based training, highlighting its benefits and limitations, and encourage listeners to integrate both manual and exercise therapies for optimal health and pain relief.VivoBarefoot Discount:Support your feet and ankles with VivoBarefoot shoes—with perfect styles for any occasion! Boost foot health through mobility and strength from the ground up. Use code TOB25 for 20% off. 100-day trial included—return if you're not satisfied!LMNT Electrolytes: Free Gift with Purchase!Stay hydrated and energized with LMNT electrolytes—sodium, potassium, and magnesium for brain and body. It's our favorite micro nutrition hack to get those essential minerals in! Get a free gift with every purchase and try new flavors! Get your Free Gift now!We think you'll love:Release and Recover ChallengeJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelWhat You'll Learn:02:04 Introduction to myofascial trains/slings, their popularity, and the concept of fascial connectivity.03:12 Explanation of fascia as a continuous tissue, its anatomical connections, and the theory behind force transmission.04:59 Brief discussion on the importance of hydration and electrolytes for fascia health, with a sponsor mention.06:18 Discussion of anatomical evidence for fascial continuity, cadaver dissections, and the limitations of anatomical studies.09:31 Review of research on force transmission through fascia, differences between cadaver and living subjects, and individual variability.12:41 Exploration of how fascial connections relate to pain...For full show notes and resources visit https://jen.health/podcast/434 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, Doc Jen and Doctor Dom, both Doctors of Physical Therapy, interview Danielle Greenwich, clinical esthetician and CEO of Clear Stem. Danielle shares her personal journey with cystic acne and discusses the root causes of acne beyond traditional treatments, including genetics, diet, hormones, and the ingredients found in skincare products. The conversation debunks common acne myths, highlights the impact of supplements and lifestyle choices like diet and exercise, and explains how to identify pore-clogging ingredients in skincare products. Danielle also offers practical skincare tips and introduces Clear Stem's science-backed, non-comedogenic products, empowering listeners to take a holistic approach to skin health and how it is important for women's health and optimal health overall.Release and Recovery Course Starts!We are starting our fall challenge to release tension and recovery in our bodies coming into the holiday season! It's not too late to come and join us. As a podcast listener, you can grab an extra discount using code OPTIMAL10 at checkout! Time to give your body that love that it needs!Needed Discount:Jen trusted Needed Supplements for fertility, pregnancy, and beyond! Support men and women's health with vitamins, Omega-3, and more. Used by 6,000+ pros. Use code OPTIMAL for 20% off at checkout!Clearstem Discount:Grab 15% off your entire Clearstem order with code DOCJEN at checkout!Clearstem's Resources:Clearstem's WebsiteDanielle on IGClearstem on IGWe think you'll love:Release and Recovery CourseJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelWhat You'll Learn from Danielle:03:22 Discussion of common skincare products ingredients...For full show notes and resources visit https://jen.health/podcast/433 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, Dr. Jen and Dr. Dom, both Doctors of Physical Therapy, discuss the sacroiliac joint (SI Joint), addressing common concerns about clicking, popping, and pain—especially during pregnancy and postpartum. They explain the anatomy, debunk myths about SI joint displacement, and share practical strategies for managing discomfort, including breathwork, progressive exercise, and mobility. The hosts emphasize early intervention, movement over inactivity, and the importance of building stability through tailored exercises to help manage SI joint pain and other discomforts that can arise during pregnancy.Needed Discount:Jen trusted Needed Supplements for fertility, pregnancy, and beyond! Support men and women's health with vitamins, Omega-3, and more. Used by 6,000+ pros. Use code OPTIMAL for 20% off at checkout!Release and Recovery Challenge:Come join us starting November 3rd to Release and Recovery coming into the holiday season! We are aiming at tapping into that body and pain in ways you have likely never tried before! Grab an extra discount using code OPTIMAL10 at checkout.We think you'll love:Release and Recover ChallengeJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelWhat You'll Learn:02:47 Jen shares her postpartum SI joint clunking experience and addresses a listener's question about ongoing symptoms.04:54 Discussion on whether clinicians can actually feel SI joint movement and the limitations of manual assessment.06:44 Explains causes of SI joint noises, including hormonal changes, connective tissue laxity, and hypermobility.10:12 Jen describes her postpartum experience with SI joint noises and how she managed them mentally and physically.12:55 Addresses common fears about movement with SI joint pain and emphasizes the need for progressive loading.14:50 Importance of early exercise intervention during pregnancy for SI joint pain management.16:53 Hands-on treatments provide short-term relief, but long-term improvement requires exercise and progressive overload.18:53 Instructions on using breathwork and ribcage expansion to improve core and pelvic floor coordination.20:18 Phase 1: Recommendation to start with slow, focused breathing to build pelvic and core stability.21:42 Phase 2...For full show notes and resources visit https://jen.health/podcast/432 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, co-hosts Doc Jen and Dr. Dom, both doctors of physical therapy, are joined by Dr. David Clark to explore the origins and treatment of chronic neuroplastic pain. They discuss how stress, early life experiences, and emotional factors can reshape brain pathways, leading to real, persistent symptoms of chronic pain. The conversation highlights the importance of compassionate listening, self-care, the mind-body connection and nervous system regulation techniques. Dr. Clark shares patient stories, practical resources, and hope for recovery, emphasizing that even long-standing chronic pain symptoms can improve through neuroplastic recovery therapy and lifestyle changes.Join the Jen Health VIP List:Come join our VIP list where you will get set exclusive discounts that are above and beyond any public discount we ever offer! Get signed up for free HERE!LMNT Electrolytes: Free Gift with Purchase!Stay hydrated and energized with LMNT electrolytes—sodium, potassium, and magnesium for brain and body. It's our favorite micro nutrition hack to get those essential minerals in! Get a free gift with every purchase and try new flavors! Get your Free Gift now!Dr Clarke's Resources:Symptomatic.Me on IGPPD Association on YoutubeSymptomatic.Me WebsiteSymptomatic.Me FacebookWe think you'll love:Free Week of Jen HealthJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelWhat You'll Learn from Dr Clarke:03:24 Dr. Clark shares his journey into chronic pain specialization and the importance of recognizing brain-generated symptoms.09:27 Dr. Clark explains how honoring patients' experiences and breathwork can regulate the nervous system.11:11 Discussion on how to help patients move beyond structural diagnoses and understand pain from a neuroplastic perspective.12:15 Dr. Clark describes...For full show notes, visit: https://jen.health/podcast/431 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, Dr. Jen and Dr. Dom—both doctors of physical therapy—address widespread myths and misconceptions surrounding neck pain and posture. They delve into the natural variation in cervical spine curvature, explaining that straightened neck curves and age-related degenerative changes are frequently seen on imaging and are often a normal part of the aging process, not necessarily linked to pain or dysfunction. They stress the importance of not letting fear-based interpretations of MRI or X-ray results dictate treatment decisions. Instead, they advocate for proactive approaches to posture and neck pain such as regular movement, targeted exercise, and education to empower individuals in managing their symptoms. Dr. Jen and Dr. Dom provide practical tips and evidence-based strategies to help find relief from neck pain, improve mobility and posture, and support overall neck health.VivoBarefoot Discount:Support your feet and ankles with VivoBarefoot shoes—with perfect styles for any occasion! Boost foot health through mobility and strength from the ground up. Use code OPTIMAL20 for 20% off. 100-day trial included—return if you're not satisfied!LMNT Electrolytes: Free Gift with Purchase!Stay hydrated and energized with LMNT electrolytes—sodium, potassium, and magnesium for brain and body. It's our favorite micro nutrition hack to get those essential minerals in! Get a free gift with every purchase and try new flavors! Get your Free Gift now!Neck and Upper Back PlanDive in on our Neck and Upper Back Plan on Jen Health for FREE to get a plan with exercise that will help you get to the root cause of those neck aches and pains. Use code OPTIMAL to get your first full month for only $20!We think you'll love:Start the Neck Plan!Jen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelWhat You'll Learn:02:26 Intro...For full show notes and resources visit https://jen.health/podcast/430 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, Dr. Jen and Dr. Dom are joined by fertility expert Dr. Natalie Crawford. They dive into a thorough discussion on women's health, focusing on fertility, menstrual health, and preparing for pregnancy. Dr. Crawford explains the menstrual cycle, addresses common misconceptions, and highlights the importance of self-advocacy, stress management, and lifestyle for women's health and reproductive health. She also shares insights from her upcoming book, "The Fertility Formula," empowering listeners with practical advice for optimizing fertility and navigating women's health challenges like infertility and pregnancy loss.VivoBarefoot Discount:Support your feet and ankles with VivoBarefoot shoes—with perfect styles for any occasion! Boost foot health through mobility and strength from the ground up. Use code OPTIMAL20 for 20% off. 100-day trial included—return if you're not satisfied!Needed Discount:Jen trusted Needed Supplements for fertility, pregnancy, and beyond! Support men and women's health with vitamins, Omega-3, and more. Used by 6,000+ pros. Use code OPTIMAL for 20% off at checkout!Dr Crawford's Resources:Dr Crawford on IGDr Crawford's YoutubeDr Crawford's WebsiteDr Crawford's TikTokWe think you'll love:Pelvic Floor FoundationsJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelWhat You'll Learn From Dr Crawford:05:11 Discussion on why fertility is an important indicator of overall health and longevity.09:36 Dr. Crawford explains the phases, hormones, and normal function of the menstrual cycle.14:28 Clarifies normal and abnormal pain, bleeding, and ovulatory symptoms during the menstrual cycle.20:09 Explores how birth control is used to mask symptoms...For full show notes and resources visit https://jen.health/podcast/429 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, Dr. Jen and Dr. Dom, both Doctors of Physical Therapy, discuss patellofemoral pain syndrome, a common cause of pain at the front of the knee. They debunk myths about outdated treatments and explain patellofemoral pain syndrome as an overload condition, highlighting its prevalence among adolescents, women, and runners. The hosts outline a phased, evidence-based rehab approach for patellofemoral pain syndrome, focusing on hip and knee strengthening, mobility, and gradual progression to dynamic activities. They emphasize the importance of load management, pain education, and consistency, and introduce their structured “Knee Plan” to guide listeners through recovery. Neck and Upper Back Plan:Dealing with the pesky neck or upper back pains? Worried about your posture starting to slump forward? This is the time to start addressing those issues! We have a perfectly curated plan that provides targeted exercise to get to the root cause of these restrictions. As a podcast listener, you can even use code OPTIMAL to get your first full month for only $20! Come start your free trial and join our movement community today!We think you'll love:Start the Knee Plan!Free Knee MasterclassJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelWhat You'll Learn:2:31 Introduction to Patellofemoral Pain Syndrome3:32 Outdated Treatments and VMO Myth4:42 Describes PFPS as an overload syndrome, with pain due to repeated stress and joint sensitization.7:06 Cycle of Chronic Pain and Recovery Challenges8:00 Emphasizes the need for progressive loading in rehab, not just basic or passive exercises.9:51 Discusses misconceptions about patellar tracking and pain, and the inability to isolate the VMO.12:18 Highlights research supporting combined hip and knee strengthening for PFPS recovery.13:55 Notes that hip weakness, especially in glutes, is a strong contributor to PFPS.15:11 Explains that some pain during rehab is normal and not a sign of damage.16:12 Covers passive treatments like taping, manual therapy, and footwear changes to help manage pain.17:43 Outlines the three rehab phases: pain reduction/activation, dynamic strength, and ballistic/plyometric training.18:34 Phase 1: Describes initial exercises: isometric holds, straight leg raises, clamshells, bridges, and mobility work.20:37 Phase 2: Covers progression...For full show notes and resources visit https://jen.health/podcast/428 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, Dr. Jen and Dr. Dom interview Dr. Lance Frank, a pelvic floor physical therapist specializing in men's health and LGBTQIA+ care. They discuss the underdiagnosis of pelvic floor dysfunction in men, common symptoms (such as pain, urinary and bowel issues, and sexual dysfunction), and the stigma preventing many from seeking help. Dr. Frank explains his patient-centered approach, the importance of education and early intervention, and practical strategies for improving pelvic floor health. The episode aims to break down taboos and empower listeners to address pelvic floor concerns proactively.LMNT Electrolytes: Free Gift with Purchase!Stay hydrated and energized with LMNT electrolytes—sodium, potassium, and magnesium for brain and body. It's our favorite micro nutrition hack to get those essential minerals in! Get a free gift with every purchase and try new flavors! Get your Free Gift now!Pelvic Floor Foundations:Want a stronger pelvic floor but don't know where to start? Our Pelvic Floor Foundations Course guides you step-by-step with education and exercise. Podcast listeners get a discount with code OPTIMAL10. Learn more and sign up today!Dr Lance's Resources:Lance In Your Pants on IGLance's YoutubeFlex PT WebsiteLance's TikTokWe think you'll love:Pelvic Floor FoundationsJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelWhat You'll Learn from Dr Lance:02:39 Dr. Lance's Journey into Pelvic Health07:29 What is Pelvic Floor Dysfunction?09:15 Why Pelvic Floor Dysfunction is Underdiagnosed in Men14:03 What to Expect at a Pelvic Health Appointment...For full show notes and resources visit https://jen.health/podcast/427 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, physical therapists Doc Jen and Doctor Dom, both Doctors of Physical Therapy, discuss how postpartum women can safely return to strength training while breastfeeding. They explain the hormonal changes after birth and their effects on mood, energy, and physical recovery. The hosts share practical health tips for hydrations, nutrition, and gradual exercise progression, emphasizing core and pelvic floor stability in early postpartum stages. Personal experiences and strategies for accountability are highlighted, along with the importance of patience and individualized approaches. The episode offers encouragement and evidence-based advice to help new moms regain strength and support their health during the postpartum period.VivoBarefoot Discount:Support your feet and ankles with VivoBarefoot shoes—with perfect styles for any occasion! Boost foot health through mobility and strength from the ground up. Use code OPTIMAL20 for 20% off. 100-day trial included—return if you're not satisfied!Needed Discount:Jen trusted Needed Supplements for fertility, pregnancy, postpartum, and beyond! Support men and women's health with vitamins, Omega-3, and more. Used by 6,000+ pros. Use code OPTIMAL for 20% off at checkout!Strong Healthy JointsThis program is a powerhouse in helping build muscle mass and improve your bone density! Come grab our listener bonus discount on Strong Healthy Joints using code OPTIMAL10 at checkout!We think you'll love:Strong Healthy Joints CourseBeWell By Kelly ProteinJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelWhat You Will Learn:02:15 Hormonal Shifts Postpartum03:17 Calorie Deficit & Mindset Shift05:40 Prolactin and Its Effects06:53 Oxytocin and Maternal Bonding07:50 Estrogen Drop and Bone Health09:19 Progesterone...For full show notes and resources visit https://jen.health/podcast/426

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, Doctors of Physical Therapy Doc Jen and Dr Dom, welcome holistic therapist Megan, creator of the Love Alignment Method and author of Choose Yourself. Megan shares her journey from eating disorder recovery to specializing in attachment trauma and relationships. The discussion explores self-discovery, healing attachment wounds, exploring past relationships, and the importance of somatic therapy to heal traumatic pain. Megan offers practical tips for finding the right therapist, cultivating the mind-body connection, and embracing time alone to build self-worth. The episode provides empowering insights and tools for cultivating authentic relationships and prioritizing personal healing and growth.LMNT Electrolytes: Free Gift with Purchase!Stay hydrated and energized with LMNT electrolytes—sodium, potassium, and magnesium for brain and body. It's our favorite micro nutrition hack to get those essential minerals in! Get a free gift with every purchase and try new flavors! Get your Free Gift now!Free Week of the Jen Health Membership:Get a free week of Jen Health Membership! Access 12 plans crafted by Doc Jen, PT. We'll match you with the best plan for your goals. Check it out today and use code OPTIMAL for a discount on your first month!Megan's Resources:"Choose Yourself" by Megan ShererMegan's InstagramMegan's YoutubeMegan's WebsiteWe think you'll love:Free Week of Jen HealthJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelWhat You Will Learn:02:00 Megan shares her journey from eating disorder recovery to attachment trauma, and why she wrote her book.04:26 Discussion on societal pressures, especially for women, to follow specific relationship timelines.07:00 Limitations of Traditional Talk...For full show notes and resources visit https://jen.health/podcast/425

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, Dr. Jen and Dr. Dom explore how to build muscle and strength without lifting heavy weights. They explain that working muscles to fatigue within a moderate rep range—using lighter loads or bodyweight—can be just as effective to build muscle. The hosts share practical exercise modifications, discuss the importance of reaching muscular failure, and emphasize recovery, nutrition, and consistency. They encourage listeners, especially women and older adults, to prioritize strength training for muscle growth for lifelong optimal health and independence, offering accessible strategies and resources for getting started at home.VivoBarefoot Discount:Support your feet and ankles with VivoBarefoot shoes—with perfect styles for any occasion! Boost foot health through mobility and strength from the ground up. Use code OPTIMAL20 for 20% off. 100-day trial included—return if you're not satisfied!Needed Discount:Jen trusted Needed Supplements for fertility, pregnancy, and beyond! Support men and women's health with vitamins, Omega-3, and more. Used by 6,000+ pros. Use code OPTIMAL for 20% off at checkout!We think you'll love:Strong Healthy Joints CourseJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelWhat You Will Learn:03:07 Sarcopenia and Muscle Loss with Age06:51 Strength Training for Longevity09:44 Rep Ranges to Build Muscle11:08 Muscular Failure vs. Muscle Burn13:44 Training Frequency for Muscle Growth15:17 Blood Flow Restriction & Joint Sensitivities17:12 Challenging Mindsets About Lifting Heavy19:59 Designing a Low-Load Hypertrophy Workout20:05 Lower Body Exercise Examples22:46 Upper Body Exercise Examples25:32 Shoulder and Overhead Exercises28:25 Nutrition and Recovery for Muscle GrowthFor Full Show Notes and Resources visit https://jen.health/podcast/424

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, Doc Jen and Doctor Dom welcome pelvic floor Doctor of Physical Therapy Dr. Sarah Reardon to discuss her new book, "Flawed: A Women's Guide to Pelvic Floor Health at Every Age and Stage." They explore the importance of pelvic health education, debunk common myths, address certain pelvic floor pain and conditions, and address the stigma surrounding women's pelvic health. Dr. Reardon shares practical tips and exercise for daily habits, highlights the need for early education, and emphasizes that pelvic health is a lifelong journey. The conversation empowers listeners to make informed, compassionate choices about their bodies. Dr. Sarah Reardon is truly a pioneer in women's health advocacy.Needed Discount:Jen trusted Needed Supplements for fertility, pregnancy, and beyond! Support men and women's health with vitamins, Omega-3, and more. Used by 6,000+ pros. Use code OPTIMAL for 20% off at checkout!Pelvic Floor Foundations:Want a stronger pelvic floor but don't know where to start? Our Pelvic Floor Foundations Course guides you step-by-step. Podcast listeners get a discount with code OPTIMAL10. Learn more and sign up today!Dr Sarah's Resources:Dr Sarah's Book: "Floored"Dr Sarah's InstagramThe V-Hive MembershipWe think you'll love:Pelvic Floor Founations CourseJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelWhat You'll Learn from Sarah:03:33 Making Pelvic Health Approachable07:55 Gaps in Pelvic Health Awareness & Treatment09:54 Pelvic Health Across Life Stages12:49 Hormones, Menstruation, and Pelvic Floor Symptoms15:34 Early Education & Product Choices18:46 Pelvic Health Products: What Works & What Doesn't21:20 Marketing, Quick Fixes, and Long-Term...For full show notes and resources visit https://jen.health/podcast/423

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, Dr. Jen and Dr. Dom, both physical therapists, dive deep into the world of barefoot shoes and the barefoot lifestyle. They explore how making the switch to barefoot footwear can help address common pain issues, including bunion pain and plantar fasciitis. The hosts discuss essential features of minimalist shoes, share their own barefoot journeys, and emphasize why a gradual, personalized approach is important to avoid injury. You'll hear practical tips, targeted exercises, and assessments to strengthen your feet and improve mobility while going barefoot. Dr. Jen and Dr. Dom also introduce their Barefoot Mini Course and recommend supportive tools like toe socks and spacers for anyone dealing with bunions, plantar fasciitis, or general foot pain. Listeners are encouraged to be patient and consistent—embracing barefoot habits and foot exercise for optimal health and lifelong foot function.VivoBarefoot Discount:Support your feet and ankles with VivoBarefoot shoes—with perfect styles for any occasion! Boost foot health through mobility and strength from the ground up. Use code OPTIMAL20 for 20% off. 100-day trial included—return if you're not satisfied!LMNT Electrolytes: Free Gift with Purchase!Stay hydrated and energized with LMNT electrolytes—sodium, potassium, and magnesium for brain and body. It's our favorite micro nutrition hack to get those essential minerals in! Get a free gift with every purchase and try new flavors! Get your Free Gift now!Barefoot Mini Course:Struggling with plantar fasciitis or bunion pain? Our Barefoot Mini Course helps you self-assess and relieve foot issues. Many have found relief! Use code OPTIMAL10 for a discount. Learn more and sign up now!We think you'll love:Barefoot Mini CourseFree Plantar Fasciitis GuideJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelFor full show notes and resources visit: https://jen.health/podcast/422What You'll Learn:2:33 Transitioning to Barefoot Shoes: Listener Questions7:18 Personal Foot Backgrounds8:38 Defining Barefoot Shoes10:35 Research on Barefoot Shoes...

In this Optimal Body Podcast episode, hosts Doc Jen and Doctor Dom, doctors of physical therapy, welcome sleep expert Todd Anderson. Todd shares insights from his athletic and coaching background, emphasizing the foundational role of sleep in performance, pain relief, and optimal health. The conversation covers practical sleep strategies, the impact of mindset, light, temperature, exercise, hormones, and stimulants like caffeine and nicotine. Listeners receive actionable tips for improving sleep quality, with a focus on self-compassion, individualized routines, and addressing underlying life stressors for optimal well-being.VivoBarefoot Discount:Support your foot health with VivoBarefoot shoes—perfect for any occasion! Boost mobility and strength from the ground up. Use code OPTIMAL20 for 20% off. 100-day trial included—return if you're not satisfied!Needed Discount:Jen trusted Needed Supplements for fertility, pregnancy, and beyond! Support men and women's health and nutrition with vitamins, Omega-3, and more. Used by 6,000+ healthcare professionals. Use code OPTIMAL for 20% off at checkout!Free Week of the Jen Health Membership:Get a free week of Jen Health Membership! Access 12 plans crafted by Doc Jen, PT. We'll match you with the best plan for your goals. Check it out today and use code OPTIMAL for a discount on your first month!Todd's Resources:Dream Recovery WebsiteTodd's InstagramDream Recovery InstagramYoutubeFacebookWe think you'll love:Get A Free Week on Jen Health!Jen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelFor full show notes and resources visit: https://jen.health/podcast/421

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, physical therapists Doc Jen and Dr Dom discuss trigger finger (stenosing tenosynovitis), covering its causes, symptoms, and risk factors—especially in people with diabetes or repetitive hand use. They outline conservative treatments like splinting, corticosteroid injections, and targeted exercises to improve tendon gliding and finger mobility. Surgical options for trigger finger are reviewed for persistent cases. The hosts emphasize starting with therapy and activity modification before invasive treatments, and they share practical exercises for hand and wrist health.LMNT Electrolytes: Free Gift with Purchase!Stay hydrated and energized with LMNT electrolytes—sodium, potassium, and magnesium for brain and body. Get a free gift with every purchase and try new flavors! Get your Free Gift now!Movement Rx Course - Last Call!!We have already gotten started with a group of over 1000 in this program focused on Longevity! Come join us and get the early-bird price (even though it is already gone) using code OPTIMAL at checkout! Join Movement Rx today!We think you'll love:Get A Free Week on Jen Health!Jen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelWhat You'll Learn:02:52 Introduction to Trigger Finger04:17 Causes and Contributing Factors06:32 Conservative Treatment: Finger Splinting & Corticosteroid Injection09:18 Surgical Intervention10:55 Role of Physical Therapy & Occupational Therapy12:53 Tendon Gliding Exercises15:07 Finger and Wrist Stretching16:43 Active Wrist and Finger Movements17:44 Finger Taps and Control Exercises19:26 Adding Resistance and Rice Bucket Exercises20:03 Importance of Ongoing Exercise and Prevention For full show notes and resources visit: https://jen.health/podcast/420

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, Dr. Jen and Dr. Dom welcome Dr. Courtney Conley and Dr. Jen Perez, co-founders of Gait Happens, for an insightful discussion on health optimization through foot health. They explore how foot health impacts overall well-being, exercise performance, and movement longevity, with a special focus on plantar fasciitis and other common issues that impact foot health. The conversation dispels myths about orthotics and highlights the importance of functional foot strength. Listeners receive practical health tips and learn how exercise and a holistic approach can optimize health and prevent pain.Movement Rx Program:Looking to make sure you are moving well at all stages of life?! That is why Doc Jen teamed up with Dr Courtney from Gait Happens and created the Movement Rx program with movement longevity in mind. It is never too late, or too early, to start focusing on this! We will all be starting as a community on August 1st! Also, as our special podcast listeners, you can still get the early-bird pricing using code OPTIMAL at checkout!LMNT Electrolytes: Free Gift with Purchase!Stay hydrated and energized with LMNT electrolytes—sodium, potassium, and magnesium for brain and body. Get a free gift with every purchase and try new flavors! Get your Free Gift now!Gait Happens Resources:Gait Happens WebsiteGait Happens InstagramGait Happens YoutubeGait Happens FacebookWe think you'll love:Get A Free Week on Jen Health!Jen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelFor full show notes and resources, visit: https://jen.health/podcast/419

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, Dr. Jen and Dr. Dom, doctors of physical therapy, dive deep into the connection between menopause and women's health, focusing on how estrogen affects muscle health, strength, and recovery. They break down the ways menopause and the surrounding hormonal shifts—peri-menopause, post-menopause, and postpartum—can impact muscle repair, strength loss, and injury risk. You'll get actionable tips on exercise, health optimization for women navigating these hormonal changes. The hosts highlight the importance of self-compassion, rest, and adapting workouts for long-term health and functional strength, empowering women to thrive throughout every stage of life. VivoBarefoot Discount:We cannot talk about back issues without talking about restrictions in feet and ankles. Improve your foot and ankle health and therefore everything up the chain by wearing ⁠VivoBareoot shoes⁠ to improve the mobility and strength in your toes, feet, and ankles. There's one for every occasion, including weddings, hiking, a grocery walk and casual wear, or shoes for your active lifestyle. Use code "OPTIMAL20" to get 20% off your ⁠VivoBarefoot Shoes⁠!**Vivo offers a 100-Day trial period. If you are not completely satisfied, you can send the shoes back and get a refund. Needed Discount:Although the journey of pregnancy is so personal and individual, Jen's number one question goes back to what she did to help her conceive and maintain the pregnancy. While there were a myriad of factors that contributed, she reliably counted on Needed supplements that supported her journey! Men need support as well via sperm support and men's multivitamins. While women are supported by egg quality supplementation, CoQ10, prenatal Omega 3, iron, and choline in tablet or powder form. Used by over 6000 health professionals, Needed is available to support pregnancy, fertility, and postpartum, as well as women's and men's health in general. Check out needed if you know there's a gap in your nutrition via code ⁠⁠OPTIMAL⁠⁠ for 20% off. Strong Healthy Joints Course Discount:Looking to build strength and muscle but need a plan to follow?! That is why we created Strong Healthy Joints! A 30 Day program with strength workouts that will have you in and out of the gym quick while still getting you the strength training you need! Come join now and grab a special discount with code OPTIMAL20at checkout! Movement Rx Course:Want a program focused more on longevity. Movement Rx is a program built in collaboration between Doc Jen and Dr Courtney Conley, DC, focused on improving your mobility, balance, stability, strength, and power with your movement longevity in mind! Wanting to move well at every stage in life, come join and get the early bird pricing while it lasts! We think you'll love:Jen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube Channel Find all the show notes and resources at https://jen.health/podcast/418 What You'll Learn:2:09 Episode Focus & Estrogen Overview5:14 Estrogen's Role in Muscle Health7:57 Menopause, Postpartum, and Muscle Loss10:04 Multifactorial Causes of Muscle Loss Postpartum13:24 Strength Training Recommendations16:01 Rest, Recovery, and Nutrition18:39 Rest as Progress & Social Support19:48 Body Acceptance During Hormonal Changes20:56 Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT)

VivoBarefoot Discount:We cannot talk about back issues without talking about restrictions in feet and ankles. Improve your foot and ankle health and therefore everything up the chain by wearing ⁠VivoBareoot shoes⁠ to improve the mobility and strength in your toes, feet, and ankles. There's one for every occasion, including weddings, hiking, a grocery walk and casual wear, or shoes for your active lifestyle. Use code "OPTIMAL20" to get 20% off your ⁠VivoBarefoot Shoes⁠!**Vivo offers a 100-Day trial period. If you are not completely satisfied, you can send the shoes back and get a refund.Free Week of the Jen Health Membership:Looking for a movement community that gives you the plan specific to your body? Need accountability and a plan that is specific to your restrictions?! Come grab a free week of our Jen Health Membership! You'll have access to 12 plans that were all curated by Doc Jen, Dr of Physical Therapy. We make sure you get set up with the plan that will be best for your goals and the rest is laid out for you to follow! Come check it out today! You can even get a discount on your first month using code OPTIMAL at checkout!Gina's Resources:"Training for Two" BookMamasteFit WebsiteMamasteFit InstagramMamasteFit YoutubeMamasteFit FacebookWe think you'll love:Get A Free Week on Jen Health!Pelvic Floor Foundations CourseJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelFor full show notes and resources, visit: https://jen.health/podcast/415What You Will Learn from Gina:04:28 Gina shares her first pregnancy experience, lack of resources, and how she started MamasteFit.07:24 Gina describes forming a supportive community of new moms and developing her fitness programming.09:54 Discussion of prevalent myths about exercising during pregnancy and why they are untrue.13:24 Clarifies safe exercise practices, including laying on your back, twisting, and avoiding high fall-risk activities.19:21 Advice for both sedentary and active individuals on starting or modifying exercise during pregnancy.24:47 Discussion on how symptoms can change with each pregnancy and the importance of exercise for support.26:05 Gina explains the role of myofascial slings in preventing pelvic pain and supporting the body during pregnancy.32:40 Debunking the usefulness of Kegels and outlining more effective pelvic floor and mobility exercises.40:34 Advice on prioritizing rest, gentle movement, and self-compassion in the early postpartum period.43:17 Suggestions for gentle mobility, supportive garments, and gradual return to activity after birth.47:27 Writing the Book: “Training for Two”

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, co-hosts Doc Jen and Doctor Dom, both doctors of physical therapy, answer listener questions on physical therapy, body mechanics, and pain management. They debunk myths about bunions, joint alignment, and hip pain, emphasizing the importance of strength, mobility, and proper footwear. Doc Jen highlights the benefits of barefoot shoes for foot health, while Doctor Dom clarifies misconceptions about the sacroiliac joint. They also discuss pain sensitization and the complexities of hip issues, advocating for a holistic approach to understanding and treating pain.VivoBarefoot Discount:We cannot talk about back issues without talking about restrictions in feet and ankles. Improve your foot and ankle health and therefore everything up the chain by wearing ⁠VivoBareoot shoes⁠ to improve the mobility and strength in your toes, feet, and ankles. There's one for every occasion, including weddings, hiking, a grocery walk and casual wear, or shoes for your active lifestyle. Use code "OPTIMAL20" to get 20% off your ⁠VivoBarefoot Shoes⁠!There's a bonus promo going on until May 15th! You can get a special 25% off using code TOB25 at checkout. This code works on all shoes that are not discounted and doesn't work on the Senus Slide, Senus Yin, and  Gobi Sneaker.**Vivo offers a 100-Day trial period. If you are not completely satisfied, you can send the shoes back and get a refund.LMNT Electrolytes: Free Gift with Purchase!Fuel every system within the body and the brain with LMNT! Keep yourself hydrated on a cellular level by replenishing the sodium, potassium, and magnesium that our body needs for basic cellular processes like nerve signaling, smooth muscle contractions, unnecessary fatigue, aches and pain, brain fog, and recovery! Get a free gift with every purchase and try some new flavors as you stay hydrated! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Get Your Free Gift!Jen Health Annual Membership Discount:Don't miss out! We are having a massive discount on our Annual Membership on Jen Health! As our podcast listener, you'll get the best discount of all using code OPTIMAL10 at checkout! If you've been considering getting started on one of our 12 Therapy Plans, now is the time! You'll get over a 50% discount when you use OPTIMAL10 to start your free trial of the Annual Membership. Come move with us!We think you'll love:Jen Health Monthly DiscountBarefoot Mini CourseJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelHead to this link for full show notes and resources: https://jen.health/podcast/406What You'll Learn: 3:22 Addressing misconceptions about joint alignment, particularly regarding the acromioclavicular (AC) joint.4:39 Discussing how pain is often due to sensitization rather than actual misalignment of joints.7:36 Explaining how manipulative techniques provide temporary relief through neurological responses, not realignment.9:29 Strategies for reducing pain through improved mobility and understanding core coordination.11:50 Exploring ilio psoas bursitis, its causes, and the importance of assessing mobility versus strength.13:51 Understanding the intricate movements of the hip joint and their connection to core stability.15:53 Discussion on how mobility routines can cause soreness for those who are not used to activity.17:33 Body Guarding and Pain Sensitization20:32 Overview of a foot and ankle plan included in the membership to address restrictions and plantar fasciitis.

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, hosts Doc Jen and Doctor Dom explore the crucial role of doulas in the birthing process with Kelsey and Aurora from Soul Shine Birth. They discuss how doulas provide emotional, physical, and educational support during pregnancy, labor, and postpartum. The conversation highlights the benefits of having a doula, such as improved birth outcomes and a more empowered birthing experience. Kelsey and Aurora emphasize the importance of advocacy in hospital settings and the value of personalized care. They also introduce their comprehensive birth and postpartum courses, offering listeners a discount code for further learning.Jen Health Annual Membership Discount:Don't miss out! We are having a massive discount on our Annual Membership on Jen Health! As our podcast listener, you'll get the best discount of all using code OPTIMAL10 at checkout! If you've been considering getting started on one of our 12 Therapy Plans, now is the time! You'll get over a 50% discount when you use OPTIMAL10 to start your free trial of the Annual Membership. Come move with us!Needed Discount:Although the journey of pregnancy is so personal and individual, Jen's number one question goes back to what she did to help her conceive and maintain the pregnancy. While there were a myriad of factors that contributed, she reliably counted on Needed supplements that supported her journey! Men need support as well via sperm support and men's multivitamins. While women are supported by egg quality supplementation, CoQ10, prenatal Omega 3, iron, and choline in tablet or powder form. Used by over 4000 health professionals, Needed is available to support pregnancy, fertility, and postpartum, as well as women's and men's health in general. Check out needed if you know there's a gap in your nutrition via code ⁠⁠OPTIMAL⁠⁠ for 20% off.Soul Shine's Resources and Links:Soul Shine's WebsiteSoul Shine's InstagramSoul Shine's BlogGet $50 off any of Soul Shine's in person or virtual services with code OPTIMALBODY.We think you'll love:Jen Health Membership DiscountJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelFor full show notes and resources, visit: https://jen.health/podcast/405What You Will Learn From Kelsey and Rori:3:27 Jen shares her positive experience with doulas and their role in birth support.5:01 Discussion on the definition and historical context of doulas.7:53 Kelsey explains the difference between doulas, midwives, and OBs.10:08 Kelsey shares data showing improved birth outcomes with doula support.11:40 Discussion on how doulas support partners during the birthing process.15:15 Discussion on how doulas advocate for mothers in various birth environments.18:22 Discussion on how interventions can lead to cesarean sections and the importance of informed choices.20:59 Selecting a supportive provider is crucial for a positive birth experience and aligning with birth preferences.24:57 Choosing the right provider impacts birth outcomes; midwives often have lower intervention rates than OBs.27:52 Choosing a doula should be about connection and comfort, not just certifications or experience.33:41 Overview of the services provided by Soul Shine doulas, including personalized support options.35:16 Insights into stages of labor, challenges, and how partners can support during birth.37:27 Sharing personal experiences about the challenges and joys of new parenthood.39:35 Exploration of how doulas assist families in developing flexible birth plans.45:31 Discussing options for families concerned about the costs of hiring a doula.

Dr. Jen Fraboni, PT, DPT, is an internationally-renowned physical therapist who specializes in helping people overcome chronic pain and maximize physical performance. As the founder of the new platform and app, “Jen.Health,” she brings a unique, whole body approach to strength, mobility and pain-free living.  Dr. Jen is the co-host with her husband, who is also a Doctor of Physical Therapy, to a popular podcast called "The Optimal Body Podcast.” They live in Southern California with their two beautiful boys. She shares her own VBAC story with a failure to progress diagnosis with her 7-pound first baby, and an unmedicated VBAC with her 9-pound second baby! Though she had some postpartum complications, Dr. Jen says that her VBAC was absolutely worth it and so empowering. Dr. Jen also teaches us all about the pelvic floor and how pelvic floor PT can help a smoother and more effective pushing phase!Dr. Jen's WebsiteNeeded Website: Code VBAC20 for 20% OffHow to VBAC: The Ultimate Prep Course for ParentsSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-vbac-link/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, Doc Jen shares her postpartum journey following her second childbirth, a vaginal birth, contrasting it with her first cesarean experience. Joined by Doctor Dom, they discuss the physical and emotional challenges of postpartum recovery, emphasizing the importance of support, pelvic floor health, and proper nutrition. Doc Jen highlights the use of supportive products and the significance of a strong mindset. They also address managing an older child while caring for a newborn and the societal pressures on postpartum aesthetics. The episode offers valuable insights and encouragement for new mothers navigating their postpartum experiences.VivoBarefoot Discount:We cannot talk about back issues without talking about restrictions in feet and ankles. Improve your foot and ankle health and therefore everything up the chain by wearing ⁠VivoBareoot shoes⁠ to improve the mobility and strength in your toes, feet, and ankles. There's one for every occasion, including weddings, hiking, a grocery walk and casual wear, or shoes for your active lifestyle. Use code "OPTIMAL20" to get 20% off your ⁠VivoBarefoot Shoes⁠!**Vivo offers a 100-Day trial period. If you are not completely satisfied, you can send the shoes back and get a refund.Needed Discount:Although the journey of pregnancy is so personal and individual, Jen's number one question goes back to what she did to help her conceive and maintain the pregnancy. While there were a myriad of factors that contributed, she reliably counted on Needed supplements that supported her journey! Men need support as well via sperm support and men's multivitamins. While women are supported by egg quality supplementation, CoQ10, prenatal Omega 3, iron, and choline in tablet or powder form. Used by over 4000 health professionals, Needed is available to support pregnancy, fertility, and postpartum, as well as women's and men's health in general. Check out needed if you know there's a gap in your nutrition via code ⁠⁠OPTIMAL⁠⁠ for 20% off.Free Week of the Jen Health Membership:Looking for a movement community that gives you the plan specific to your body? Need accountability and a plan that is specific to your restrictions?! Come grab a free week of our Jen Health Membership! You'll have access to 12 plans that were all curated by Doc Jen, Dr of Physical Therapy. We make sure you get set up with the plan that will be best for your goals and the rest is laid out for you to follow! Come check it out today! You can even get a discount on your first month using code OPTIMAL at checkout!We think you'll love:Jen Health Monthly DiscountPelvic Floor Foundations CourseFree Postpartum GuideJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelHead to this link for the full show notes and resources: https://jen.health/podcast/404What You Will Hear in This Episode:1:50 Doc Jen begins sharing her postpartum healing journey, contrasting it with her first childbirth experience.3:11 Doc Jen discusses her recovery experience, including pelvic floor symptoms and healing from a vaginal birth.5:01 Doc Jen highlights the supplements she's taking postpartum to support breastfeeding and overall health.7:09 Doc Jen shares insights on her ability to have a vaginal birth despite previous cesarean concerns.8:03 Doc Jen describes the early challenges of postpartum recovery, including fear of bowel movements.9:51 Doc Jen discusses the mental challenges of postpartum recovery and the importance of mindset.12:28 Doc Jen talks about the need for individualized recovery plans based on birth experiences and symptoms.13:58 Doc Jen offers strategies for managing care of an older child while recovering postpartum.16:25 Doc Jen discusses the advantages of vaginal birth, particularly in terms of mobility and recovery compared to cesarean.17:48 She shares the emotional challenges of postpartum hormo...

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, hosts Doc Jen and Doctor Dom engage in an enlightening conversation with Nikolina Lauc, CEO and co-founder of Glycanage. They explore the groundbreaking methods Glycanage uses to measure biological age through advanced blood biomarkers, focusing on glycans' role in inflammation and aging. Nikolina discusses the balance between genetic and environmental factors in aging, the potential for early disease prediction, and the importance of lifestyle choices. The episode emphasizes a proactive approach to health, offering valuable insights for women looking to understand and improve their biological age.Full Body High Intensity Discount:When we think about longevity, one of the most valuable forms of exercise is high intensity interval training. The research behind this method of exercise shows significant benefits to many different systems of the body that can help to promote longevity and healthy movement function late into life. You can come do the whole first 30 Days of our Full Body High Intensity Plan for only $20. Our whole community is focusing on going through this plan together. Just head to the link HERE and use code OPTIMAL at checkout to get the first month for only $20!LMNT Electrolytes: Free Gift with Purchase!Fuel every system within the body and the brain with LMNT! Keep yourself hydrated on a cellular level by replenishing the sodium, potassium, and magnesium that our body needs for basic cellular processes like nerve signaling, smooth muscle contractions, unnecessary fatigue, aches and pain, brain fog, and recovery! Get a free gift with every purchase and try some new flavors as you stay hydrated! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Get Your Free Gift!Nikolina Lauc's Resources and Links:Glycanage WebsiteGlycanage InstagramGlycange Youtube Glycan Age and Low Back PainGlycan Age and Disease StudyPurchase a Glycanage TestWe think you'll love:Jen Health Membership DiscountJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelFor full show notes and resources: https://jen.health/podcast/403What You Will Learn from Nikolina:3:53 Nikolina discusses how Glycanage differentiates its biological age measurement methods.5:34 Discussion on the role of glycans in inflammation and how they change with age.8:37 Nikolina discusses the balance between genetic and environmental factors in biological aging.12:08 Exploration of how biological age relates to mortality and the development of diseases.14:30 Discussion on how glycans can predict diseases like rheumatoid arthritis years in advance.16:32 Nikolina addresses the current accessibility and future potential of glycan testing in healthcare.17:50 Overview of advanced reports for medical professionals and the selection of diseases linked to inflammation.19:02 Exploration of how utilizing biomarkers can lead to preventive healthcare and cost savings for the system.22:03 Discussion of research linking chronic pain, inflammation, and biological aging, highlighting significant findings.24:09 Examination of how stress and biological factors differ between genders in relation to inflammation and aging.25:50 Insights from studies on PTSD and stress, showing its significant effect on biological age acceleration.27:12 Nikolina shares her personal journey of stress, trauma, and its connection to physical pain.30:21 Discussion on how understanding the psychological roots of pain can lead to effective management and relief.35:41 Exploration of how lifestyle choices contribute to biological age, including a 96-year-old woman with no diseases.38:08 Discussion on the misconception that professional athletes have lower biological ages compared to average individuals.39:20 Findings on how different exercise types affect inflammation and biological aging among various groups.43:41 Recommendations on combining dieting with exercise to effectively lower biological age.46:31 Advice on personalizing exercise routines based on individual...

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, Dr. Jen shares her inspiring journey of having a vaginal birth after cesarean (VBAC) for her second child, Luca. She discusses the emotional and physical challenges she faced, the importance of mindset and preparation, and the invaluable support from her midwives and partner, Dr. Dom. Dr. Jen emphasizes the significance of hydration, nutrition, and mental readiness during pregnancy and postpartum. Her story highlights the empowerment that comes from being informed and advocating for oneself, offering encouragement to women considering a VBAC. Join Dr. Jen and Dr. Dom for an insightful and heartfelt discussion on childbirth and motherhood.LMNT Electrolytes: Free Gift with Purchase!Fuel every system within the body and the brain with LMNT! Keep yourself hydrated on a cellular level by replenishing the sodium, potassium, and magnesium that our body needs for basic cellular processes like nerve signaling, smooth muscle contractions, unnecessary fatigue, aches and pain, brain fog, and recovery! Get a free gift with every purchase and try some new flavors as you stay hydrated! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Get Your Free Gift!Needed Discount:Although the journey of pregnancy is so personal and individual, Jen's number one question goes back to what she did to help her conceive and maintain the pregnancy. While there were a myriad of factors that contributed, she reliably counted on Needed supplements that supported her journey! Men need support as well via sperm support and men's multivitamins. While women are supported by egg quality supplementation, CoQ10, prenatal Omega 3, iron, and choline in tablet or powder form. Used by over 4000 health professionals, Needed is available to support pregnancy, fertility, and postpartum, as well as women's and men's health in general. Check out needed if you know there's a gap in your nutrition via code ⁠⁠OPTIMAL⁠⁠ for 20% off.Jen Health Discount:It is Doc Jen's birthday month! To celebrate, Jen is inviting everyone to join her doing the Full Body High Intensity plan on Jen Health! You can get this full month plan for only $20 using code OPTIMAL at checkout. Just go HERE and sign up for the monthly membership. You get access to this plan and 11 other plans to help you start to move freely and confidently in your body. Come join us today!We think you'll love:Jen Health Monthly DiscountFree Postpartum GuideJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelFor full show notes and resources visit: https://jen.health/podcast/402What you will hear in this episode:2:18 Dr. Jen shares her decision-making process for choosing a vaginal birth after cesarean.3:35 Dr. Jen explains how listening to other VBAC stories fueled her decision.7:12 Importance of having supportive midwives and a positive birth environment.9:06 Dr. Jen expresses her desire to avoid going past 42 weeks for delivery.12:18 Description of Dr. Jen's experience with early labor symptoms and contractions.14:14 Dr. Jen recounts the moment she realized her water broke during early labor.18:01 Details about arriving at the hospital and the disappointment of only being two centimeters dilated.20:22 Discussion on the importance of having a birth plan and necessary items for the hospital.23:28 The role of support partners in advocating for the birthing person's wishes.26:39 Details on the exciting progression of labor from two to six centimeters.29:34 Dr. Jen discusses her mindset and goals for her VBAC journey, emphasizing acceptance and preparation.31:38 Dr. Jen expresses her need for emotional support from Dr. Dom during the transition period in labor.34:19 Jen transitions to pushing after getting out of the tub, focusing on positioning for effective delivery.37:11 Dr. Dom contemplates the best position for Jen to push, considering both her wishes and the baby's needs.39:03 Jen describes the intensity of the final pushes and the support from the medical team during...

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, hosts Dr. Jen and Dr. Dom welcome Dr. Paige, an expert in vestibular therapy. They explore the vestibular system's role in balance and motion detection, and discuss common dysfunctions like vertigo. Dr. Paige shares her journey into vestibular therapy, emphasizing the quick fixes achievable for conditions like BPPV. She highlights the importance of consulting a vestibular physical therapist for accurate diagnosis and treatment. The episode also covers vestibular migraines, stress management, and holistic approaches to therapy, providing listeners with valuable insights into maintaining vestibular health.Jen Health Membership DiscountAre there nagging aches and pains that have been preventing you from reaching your true movement potential? Unable to do some of the activities you would ideally like to because of these aches and pains? Now is the time to join the Jen Health Community where we help teach people to move freely and address the root cause of their aches and pains. This week only we have a huge discount on our Jen Health Annual Membership. As a podcast listener, we will sweeten the deal even more. Grab an extra $10 off using code OPTIMAL10 at checkout and start moving strong, mobile, and free with us today!LMNT Electrolytes: Free Gift with Purchase!Fuel every system within the body and the brain with LMNT! Keep yourself hydrated on a cellular level by replenishing the sodium, potassium, and magnesium that our body needs for basic cellular processes like nerve signaling, smooth muscle contractions, unnecessary fatigue, aches and pain, brain fog, and recovery! Get a free gift with every purchase and try some new flavors as you stay hydrated! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Get Your Free Gift!Dr Paige's Resources and Links:The Dizzy Doctor WebsiteDr Paige's InstagramFree Phone Consult with Dr PaigeFree Vestibular Wellness CommunityWe think you'll love:Jen Health Membership DiscountJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelFor full Show Notes and Resources visit: https://jen.health/podcast/401What You Will Learn from Dr Paige:2:28 Dr. Paige's Interest in Vestibular SystemDr. Paige shares her journey and fascination with vestibular therapy, highlighting quick fixes for vertigo.4:54 Understanding Vestibular DysfunctionDiscussion about when to seek help for vertigo and the importance of seeing a vestibular physical therapist.6:43 Dizziness and Treatment OptionsDr. Paige advises on the importance of seeing a vestibular PT for comprehensive treatment of dizziness.9:30 Common Misdiagnoses in Vestibular DysfunctionDiscussion on the prevalence of vestibular dysfunction and common symptoms experienced by undiagnosed individuals.11:51 Holistic Approach to TreatmentDr. Paige describes her holistic methods, including whole-body movement and tailored programs for patients.14:10 Traditional vs. Holistic TreatmentComparison of traditional medical approaches to vestibular symptoms versus Dr. Paige's personalized treatment strategies.15:44 Vestibular Migraines IntroductionDr. Jen prompts Dr. Paige to explain what vestibular migraines are and their implications.18:30 Causes of Vestibular MigrainesPersonality traits and hormonal components contribute to the development of vestibular migraines; stress is a major trigger.20:06 Frequency of Vestibular Migraine EpisodesEpisodes vary in frequency; some experience multiple episodes weekly while others have them monthly.22:34 Nervous System Regulation TechniquesExamples of techniques like the 54321 method and breathing exercises to help manage symptoms.25:46 Impact of Pregnancy on DizzinessHormonal changes during pregnancy may increase dizziness; symptoms can return postpartum.30:21 Challenges in Diagnosing DizzinessVertigo is a symptom, not a diagnosis; accurate assessment is crucial for proper treatment.32:30 Consequences of Untreated BPPVDelay in treating B....

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, Doc Jen and Doctor Dom, both doctors of physical therapy, focus on the use of inversion tables for back pain relief. They explore the associated risks and short-term benefits of inversion therapy, emphasizing the importance of addressing the root causes of pain through active rehabilitation and lifestyle changes. The discussion encourages a holistic approach to health, combining practical advice with professional insights to promote long-term well-being.VivoBarefoot Discount:We cannot talk about back issues without talking about restrictions in feet and ankles. Improve your foot and ankle health and therefore everything up the chain by wearing ⁠VivoBareoot shoes⁠ to improve the mobility and strength in your toes, feet, and ankles. There's one for every occasion, including weddings, hiking, a grocery walk and casual wear, or shoes for your active lifestyle. Use code "OPTIMAL20" to get 20% off your ⁠VivoBarefoot Shoes⁠!**Vivo offers a 100-Day trial period. If you are not completely satisfied, you can send the shoes back and get a refund.LMNT Electrolytes: Free Gift with Purchase!Fuel every system within the body and the brain with LMNT! Keep yourself hydrated on a cellular level by replenishing the sodium, potassium, and magnesium that our body needs for basic cellular processes like nerve signaling, smooth muscle contractions, unnecessary fatigue, aches and pain, brain fog, and recovery! Get a free gift with every purchase and try some new flavors as you stay hydrated! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Get Your Free Gift!We think you'll love:Strong Healthy JointsJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelFor full show notes and resources go to: https://jen.health/podcast/400What you will learn:2:01 Inversion Tables: Worth the Risk?3:13 Description of inversion table therapy as a passive treatment for back pain and its effects.5:15 Summary of studies comparing lumbar traction's short-term benefits versus long-term effectiveness.6:16 Advice against relying solely on passive treatments like inversion tables for back pain relief.7:31 Emphasis on understanding and addressing the root causes of back pain for effective treatment.9:09 Promotion of a free e-book and course on understanding and addressing low back pain.10:34 Discussion on a study revealing limited effects of traction on back pain relief and functional improvement.11:34 Advice on seeking active treatments and avoiding excessive passive therapy for back pain.12:46 Motivation for listeners to engage in exercise and movement to achieve long-term benefits.

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, Doc Jen and Doctor Dom chat with Lauren Papanos, a registered dietitian nutritionist, about nutrition and hormone health. Lauren shares her journey into the field, driven by personal experiences with hormone issues. They discuss the impact of chronic inflammation on conditions like PCOS and Hashimoto's disease, and the importance of comprehensive testing. Lauren offers practical advice on managing blood sugar levels, especially during pregnancy, and emphasizes the benefits of whole foods. The episode concludes with tips for affordable healthy eating and information on Lauren's resources for further learning.Needed Discount:Although the journey of pregnancy is so personal and individual, Jen's number one question goes back to what she did to help her conceive and maintain the pregnancy. While there were a myriad of factors that contributed, she reliably counted on Needed supplements that supported her journey! Men need support as well via sperm support and men's multivitamins. While women are supported by egg quality supplementation, CoQ10, prenatal Omega 3, iron, and choline in tablet or powder form. Used by over 4000 health professionals, Needed is available to support pregnancy, fertility, and postpartum, as well as women's and men's health in general. Check out needed if you know there's a gap in your nutrition via code ⁠⁠OPTIMAL⁠⁠ for 20% off. LMNT Electrolytes: Free Gift with Purchase!Fuel every system within the body and the brain with LMNT! Keep yourself hydrated on a cellular level by replenishing the sodium, potassium, and magnesium that our body needs for basic cellular processes like nerve signaling, smooth muscle contractions, unnecessary fatigue, aches and pain, brain fog, and recovery! Get a free gift with every purchase and try some new flavors as you stay hydrated! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Get Your Free Gift!Free Week of the Jen Health Membership:Looking for a movement community that gives you the plan specific to your body? Need accountability and a plan that is specific to your restrictions?! Come grab a free week of our Jen Health Membership! You'll have access to 12 plans that were all curated by Doc Jen, Dr of Physical Therapy. We make sure you get set up with the plan that will be best for your goals and the rest is laid out for you to follow! Come check it out today! You can even get a discount on your first month using code OPTIMAL at checkout!Lauren's Resources and Links:Functional Fueling WebsiteLauren's InstagramLauren's YoutubeFunctional Fueling FacebookThe Strength in Hormones PodcastInflammation Harmony ProgramGrab a bonus $50 discount on Inflammation Harmony with code OPTIMALBODY at checkout!We think you'll love:Strong Healthy Joints DiscountJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelGet the full show notes and resources at https://jen.health/podcast/399What You Will Lean from Lauren: 3:20 Lauren's Passion for NutritionLauren discusses her early interest in nutrition and hormone health stemming from personal experiences.6:29 Lauren's Hormonal IssuesLauren shares her diagnoses of PCOS, hypothalamic amenorrhea, and hypothyroidism.9:36 Root Causes of Chronic InflammationLauren explains environmental factors and dietary deficiencies contributing to chronic inflammation.11:47 High-Performing Individuals and Health IssuesThe hosts discuss the confusion faced by high-performing individuals experiencing health issues despite healthy habits.14:22 Testing and Nutrition Guidelines for PCOSLauren emphasizes the need for appropriate testing and nutrition guidelines for individuals with PCOS symptoms.15:39 The Importance of Root Cause TestingDiscusses the need for comprehensive testing beyond conventional healthcare to identify root causes of health issues.18:36 Understanding Hormonal TestingEmphasizes the significance of a complete hormone panel for accurate assessment of hormonal health.21:41 Hormonal Changes During Pregnancy....

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, co-hosts Doc Jen and Doctor Dom explore osteoporosis, emphasizing its impact on women as they age. They advocate for a comprehensive approach to bone health that goes beyond calcium supplements to include exercise, nutrition, and professional guidance. Doctor Dom explains the importance of loading bones through high-intensity training to stimulate bone density. Doc Jen highlights the benefits of combining axial loading with strength training. They also discuss the "Lift More" program, which has shown promising results in improving bone mass density. The episode concludes with an introduction to their "Strong Healthy Joints" program.Stong Healthy Joints:Come join us in a community challenge to build strength, feel confident in your body, and get rid of those pesky joint aches and pains. We will all be starting together on Monday, March 3rd, but now is the time to sign up! For this week only, we have an early-bird discount! This is a 30-Day program that you keep for life that will help you confidently build top end strength in your body! Get the early-bird discount now and come join our huge community building strength together! As a podcast listener, grab a bonus discount using code OPTIMAL10 at checkout!VivoBarefoot Discount:We cannot talk about back issues without talking about restrictions in feet and ankles. Improve your foot and ankle health and therefore everything up the chain by wearing ⁠VivoBareoot shoes⁠ to improve the mobility and strength in your toes, feet, and ankles. There's one for every occasion, including weddings, hiking, a grocery walk and casual wear, or shoes for your active lifestyle. Use code "OPTIMAL20" to get 20% off your ⁠VivoBarefoot Shoes⁠!**Vivo offers a 100-Day trial period. If you are not completely satisfied, you can send the shoes back and get a refund.We think you'll love: Strong Healthy Joints Discount Jen's Instagram Dom's Instagram YouTube ChannelFor full show notes and resources, please visit: https://jen.health/podcast/398What You Will Learn:1:17 Significant statistics on fragility fractures due to low bone density in men and women.2:33 Limitations of Calcium Recommendations4:21 Impact of Hormonal Changes7:09 Discussion on exercise considerations for individuals with low estrogen affecting bone density.9:09 Discussion on how reduced activity contributes to osteoporosis across the lifespan.11:04 Advocacy for higher intensity exercises to improve bone density in osteoporosis patients.12:52 Discussion on the progression of exercises from heel drops to more advanced jumping.14:35 Focus on lifting techniques and the importance of increasing load for bone health.17:30 Lift More Exercise Program18:08 Improvements in bone mass density and muscle strength noted in postmenopausal women participating in the study.19:29 Key Exercises for Bone Health

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, hosts Doc Jen and Doctor Dom, both doctors of physical therapy, delve into the importance of foot health with guest Gourgen, co-founder of My Foot Function. They discuss the benefits of barefoot shoes, emphasizing how traditional footwear can negatively impact foot function and overall movement. Gourgen shares his journey into foot health, highlighting the significance of a wide toe box and the role of toes in stabilizing the foot. The conversation underscores the importance of proper footwear, foot exercises, and the potential to improve foot health at any age.VivoBarefoot Discount:We cannot talk about back issues without talking about restrictions in feet and ankles. Improve your foot and ankle health and therefore everything up the chain by wearing ⁠VivoBareoot shoes⁠ to improve the mobility and strength in your toes, feet, and ankles. There's one for every occasion, including weddings, hiking, a grocery walk and casual wear, or shoes for your active lifestyle. Use code "OPTIMAL20" to get 20% off your ⁠VivoBarefoot Shoes⁠!**Vivo offers a 100-Day trial period. If you are not completely satisfied, you can send the shoes back and get a refund.Stong Healthy Joints:Come join us in a community challenge to build strength, feel confident in your body, and get rid of those pesky joint aches and pains. We will all be starting together on Monday, March 3rd, but now is the time to sign up! For this week only, we have an early-bird discount! This is a 30-Day program that you keep for life that will help you confidently build top end strength in your body! Get the early-bird discount now and come join our huge community building strength together!Gourgen's Resources and Links:Sri Lanks Research StudyMy Foot Function WebsiteMy Foot Function InstagramMy Foot Function YoutubeMy Foot Function FacebookWe think you'll love:Strong Healthy Joints DiscountJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelFor the full Show Notes and Resources visit:https://jen.health/podcast/397What You Will Learn From Gourgen:3:22 Gourgen's Journey into Foot Health00:04:40 Importance of Foot Function00:07:40 Gourgen discusses the growing demand for education on foot health and the limitations of traditional approaches.00:09:10 Benefits of Barefoot Shoes00:13:30 The speakers address concerns about transitioning to barefoot shoes for older individuals or those with pain.00:15:47 Gourgen on Improvements Across Age Groups00:16:37 Discussion on the need for studies on bunion health and the debate between genetic and environmental factors.00:18:17 Overview of studies examining the root causes of bunions, focusing on genetic predispositions and shoe impact.00:19:51 Findings that habitually barefoot populations show fewer bunion occurrences compared to those who wear shoes.00:21:27 Explanation of the choice to study barefoot populations in Sri Lanka due to their unique foot health observations.00:23:49 Results indicating that barefoot individuals have significantly lower rates of bunions compared to shoe-wearers.00:26:08 Insights gained from observing foot health in different ethnic groups and their footwear practices.00:28:07 Discussion on the improvements seen in bunion conditions through changes in footwear and foot care practices.00:31:20 Explanation of how misaligned toes can lead to various foot and body issues, emphasizing the importance of toe health.00:35:30 Clarifying the relationship between arch height and foot pain, emphasizing foot flexibility.00:39:56 Encouragement to adopt barefoot practices for better foot health.00:41:53 Discussing the sensory nerve density in feet and its impact on movement.00:43:15 How barefoot walking can improve movement efficiency and posture.

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, co-hosts Doc Jen and Doctor Dom, both doctors of physical therapy, discuss the best exercises for longevity. They emphasize the importance of maintaining strength and muscle mass as we age, debunking myths about exercise restrictions for older adults. The episode highlights the benefits of strength training and high-intensity interval training (HIIT) in combating age-related declines in muscle mass and bone density. The hosts also provide practical tips for incorporating enjoyable and varied exercises into daily routines, encouraging listeners to stay active for improved health and longevity.Discount for the Strong Healthy Joints Challenge: Become a Jen Health VIP!Are you ready to build strength and get rid of that pesky joint pain?! We are starting a huge strength building challenge in March and NOW is the time to join! The challenge is on Early-Bird discount right now PLUS you can get an extra discount by becoming a Jen Health VIP! There is no cost to become a VIP. It's absolutely free, and all we will do is send you all our special discounts and bonuses before anyone else has access to them. You truly will be on our list of exclusive VIP's that get deals no one else will have access to! Join the Jen Health VIP list HERE and come joint us for the Strong Health Joints Challenge in March! Act quick because the discount will go away soon!Needed Discount:Although the journey of pregnancy is so personal and individual, Jen's number one question goes back to what she did to help her conceive and maintain the pregnancy. While there were a myriad of factors that contributed, she reliably counted on Needed supplements that supported her journey! Men need support as well via sperm support and men's multivitamins. While women are supported by egg quality supplementation, CoQ10, prenatal Omega 3, iron, and choline in tablet or powder form. Used by over 4000 health professionals, Needed is available to support pregnancy, fertility, and postpartum, as well as women's and men's health in general. Check out needed if you know there's a gap in your nutrition via code ⁠⁠OPTIMAL⁠⁠ for 20% off.We think you'll love:Strong Healthy Joints ChallengeJen's InstagramDom's InstagramYouTube ChannelFor full Show Notes and Resources visit:https://jen.health/podcast/396What You Will Learn in this Episode:1:46 Common Misconceptions About Exercise5:26 Overview of sarcopenia and osteoporosis, highlighting muscle and bone density decline with age.7:28 Explanation of the difference between strength and power, and their impact on aging.8:22 Best Exercises for Longevity10:11 Discussion on maintaining mobility and its significance in preventing age-related issues.12:04 Incorporating Strength Training00:14:16 Detailed discussion on how HIIT improves musculoskeletal, skeletal, brain, circulatory, and respiratory health.15:49 Discusses a study showing HIIT can reverse a decade of VO2 max loss in just eight weeks.19:29 Encourages adapting exercises to individual capabilities, including support for jumping activities.20:28 Norwegian 4x4 Protocol23:39 Describes "exercise snacks," short bursts of HIIT that can significantly improve blood glucose levels.

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, hosts Doc Jen and Doctor Dom delve into the critical role of nutrition in women's health with guest Doctor Frederica Amati, a leading nutritionist at Zoe. The discussion highlights how dietary choices impact fertility, pregnancy, and menopause. Doctor Amati emphasizes the importance of a balanced diet rich in whole grains, fermented dairy, oily fish, and plant-based foods. The conversation also addresses the global fertility crisis, the benefits of the Mediterranean diet, and practical tips for maintaining nutritional health through various life stages.  LMNT Electrolytes: Free Gift with Purchase! Fuel every system within the body and the brain with LMNT! Keep yourself hydrated on a cellular level by replenishing the sodium, potassium, and magnesium that our body needs for basic cellular processes like nerve signaling, smooth muscle contractions, unnecessary fatigue, aches and pain, brain fog, and recovery! Get a free gift with every purchase and try some new flavors as you stay hydrated! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Get Your Free Gift! Needed Discount: Although the journey of pregnancy is so personal and individual, Jen's number one question goes back to what she did to help her conceive and maintain the pregnancy. While there were a myriad of factors that contributed, she reliably counted on Needed supplements that supported her journey! Men need support as well via sperm support and men's multivitamins. While women are supported by egg quality supplementation, CoQ10, prenatal Omega 3, iron, and choline in tablet or powder form. Used by over 4000 health professionals, Needed is available to support pregnancy, fertility, and postpartum, as well as women's and men's health in general. Check out needed if you know there's a gap in your nutrition via code ⁠⁠OPTIMAL⁠⁠ for 20% off. Free Week of the Jen Health Membership: Looking for a movement community that gives you the plan specific to your body? Need accountability and a plan that is specific to your restrictions?! Come grab a free week of our Jen Health Membership! You'll have access to 12 plans that were all curated by Doc Jen, Dr of Physical Therapy. We make sure you get set up with the plan that will be best for your goals and the rest is laid out for you to follow! Come check it out today! You can even get a discount on your first month using code OPTIMAL at checkout! Dr Federica's Resources and Links: Dr Federica's Instagram Dr Federica's Website Learn More About ZOE ZOE Science and Nutrition Podcast We think you'll love: Free Week of Jen Health Membership Jen's Instagram Dom's Instagram YouTube Channel For Full Show Notes and Resources visit: https://jen.health/podcast/395 What You Will Learn from Dr Amati: 3:29 Doctor Ahmadi's Educational JourneyShe shares her background in public health and the importance of nutrition in chronic disease. 5:45 The Role of Nutrition in PregnancyDoctor Ahmadi emphasizes the critical impact of nutrition during pregnancy on lifelong health. 8:00 Nutritional Demands in Women's Life StagesDiscussion on the heightened nutritional needs during pregnancy and postpartum phases. 9:39 Fertility Issues in Modern SocietyExploration of the global fertility crisis and factors contributing to delayed parenthood. 12:58 Impact of Lifestyle on FertilityAnalysis of how obesity, nutritional status, and stress affect fertility in both genders. 15:22 Importance of Male FertilityHighlighting the crucial role of male health in fertility and its effects on pregnancy outcomes. 16:31 Dietary Patterns Supporting FertilityIntroduction to the Mediterranean diet as the most effective dietary pattern for enhancing fertility. 19:46 Dietary Pyramid for FertilityRevising dietary choices to prioritize plants, nuts, and seeds for better fertility outcomes. 21:53 Preconception Care ImportanceEncouragement to focus on diet and lifestyle changes before trying to conceive for better outcomes... Visit full show notes for remaining timestamps!

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, Doc Jen and Doctor Dom, both doctors of physical therapy, explore the benefits and drawbacks of whole body vibration plates. They discuss claims about these devices enhancing muscle gain, weight loss, and bone health, while emphasizing the need for critical evaluation of research. The conversation highlights the importance of balance and proprioception, especially as we age, and the sensory benefits of being barefoot. They caution against potential negative side effects of prolonged use and conclude that vibration plates can complement, but not replace, traditional strength training and rehabilitation exercises. VivoBarefoot Discount: We cannot talk about back issues without talking about restrictions in feet and ankles. Improve your foot and ankle health and therefore everything up the chain by wearing ⁠VivoBareoot shoes⁠ to improve the mobility and strength in your toes, feet, and ankles. There's one for every occasion, including weddings, hiking, a grocery walk and casual wear, or shoes for your active lifestyle. Use code "OPTIMAL20" to get 20% off your ⁠VivoBarefoot Shoes⁠! **Vivo offers a 100-Day trial period. If you are not completely satisfied, you can send the shoes back and get a refund. Free Week of the Jen Health Membership: Looking for a movement community that gives you the plan specific to your body? Need accountability and a plan that is specific to your restrictions?! Come grab a free week of our Jen Health Membership! You'll have access to 12 plans that were all curated by Doc Jen, Dr of Physical Therapy. We make sure you get set up with the plan that will be best for your goals and the rest is laid out for you to follow! Come check it out today! You can even get a discount on your first month using code OPTIMAL at checkout! We think you'll love: Get A Free Week on Jen Health! Jen's Instagram Dom's Instagram YouTube Channel Get the Full Show Notes and Resources here: https://jen.health/podcast/394 What You'll Learn: 2:04 Overview of Whole Body Vibration 4:09 Exploration of how vibration affects muscle contractions and potential weight loss. 5:05 Anecdotal insights on how vibration plates may promote relaxation rather than muscle work. 6:22 Concerns about research methodologies comparing vibration plate exercises to control groups. 7:29 Critique of claims that vibration plates can improve bone health and osteoporosis. 10:02 Research findings on how vibration plates can enhance balance, especially in older adults. Importance of Balance Training (00:11:09)Discussion on incorporating balance exercises into fitness routines to prevent falls. 12:00 Examination of studies on vibration exercise's effects on muscle and bone strength. 13:13 Discussion on the lack of long-term, well-designed studies on vibration effects. 16:26 ACL Rehabilitation Study Insights 17:21 Exploration of how vibration may improve sensory awareness after injuries, aiding in recovery.

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, hosts Doc Jen and Doctor Dom engage with Forrest Smith, CEO and co-founder of Kineon, to explore the benefits of red light therapy for chronic pain management and overall health. Forrest shares his personal journey of discovering red light therapy after an MCL tear and chronic inflammation, emphasizing its scientific backing and practical applications. The discussion covers the importance of proper dosing, the differences between light therapy devices, and Kineon's mission to make this therapy accessible and affordable. The episode underscores the potential of red light therapy to complement traditional treatments and improve quality of life. VivoBarefoot Discount: We cannot talk about back issues without talking about restrictions in feet and ankles. Improve your foot and ankle health and therefore everything up the chain by wearing ⁠VivoBareoot shoes⁠ to improve the mobility and strength in your toes, feet, and ankles. There's one for every occasion, including weddings, hiking, a grocery walk and casual wear, or shoes for your active lifestyle. Use code "OPTIMAL20" to get 20% off your ⁠VivoBarefoot Shoes⁠! **Vivo offers a 100-Day trial period. If you are not completely satisfied, you can send the shoes back and get a refund.  LMNT Discount Code: Fuel every system within the body and the brain with LMNT! Keep yourself hydrated on a cellular level by replenishing the sodium, potassium, and magnesium that our body needs for basic cellular processes like nerve signaling, smooth muscle contractions, unnecessary fatigue, aches and pain, brain fog, and recovery! Get a free gift with every purchase and try some new flavors as you stay hydrated! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Get Your Free Gift! Free Week of the Jen Health Membership: Looking for a movement community that gives you the plan specific to your body? Need accountability and a plan that is specific to your restrictions?! Come grab a free week of our Jen Health Membership! You'll have access to 12 plans that were all curated by Doc Jen, Dr of Physical Therapy. We make sure you get set up with the plan that will be best for your goals and the rest is laid out for you to follow! Come check it out today! You can even get a discount on your first month using code OPTIMAL at checkout! Forrest's Resources and Links: Kineon Website Research and Science Behind Kineon Kineon Youtube Channel Kineon Facebook Group Kineon Instagram Forrest Smith Instagram We think you'll love: Free Week of Jen Health Membership Jen's Instagram Dom's Instagram YouTube Channel View Full Show Notes and Resources at: https://jen.health/podcast/393 What You will Learn from Forrest: 3:28 Forrest discusses his personal experiences that led him to discover red light therapy. 6:47 Forrest shares how he learned about red light therapy through his mother's use. 8:09 Discussion on how chronic inflammation affects health and the potential of red light therapy. 10:24 Forrest describes the importance of correct dosing in achieving effective outcomes. 13:05 Forrest shares the importance of real-world testing to validate their models and devices. 14:39 Doc Jen questions the differences between various light therapy devices and their effectiveness. 17:20 Exploration of how chronic inflammation affects cartilage and the potential of laser therapy to restore balance. 24:06 Overview of studies supporting red light therapy's effectiveness in cartilage regeneration and healing. 30:54 Discussion on optimizing red light therapy dosing through immediate biofeedback. 32:25 The role of the lymphatic system in clearing waste from the brain and its relation to cognitive function. 36:08 Highlighting the need for a holistic approach to pain management that includes diet and movement. 39:42 Discussion on how red light therapy may positively impact fertility and related health issues. 44:42 Introduction of a new gut health product and its potential impact on overall health and conditions like MS.

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, hosts Doc Jen and Doctor Dom, both doctors of physical therapy, explore the phenomenon of joint adjustments, often associated with the sounds of "snap, crackle, and pop." They explain the science behind these sounds, emphasizing that they result from pressure changes and gas release in the joints, not bones being realigned. The hosts stress that while these adjustments can provide temporary relief, long-term pain management requires understanding the body's mechanics, incorporating stability and strength training, and adopting self-care strategies. They encourage listeners to seek education and empowerment for lasting health improvements. Needed Discount: Although the journey of pregnancy is so personal and individual, Jen's number one question goes back to what she did to help her conceive and maintain the pregnancy. While there were a myriad of factors that contributed, she reliably counted on Needed supplements that supported her journey! Men need support as well via sperm support and men's multivitamins. While women are supported by egg quality supplementation, CoQ10, prenatal Omega 3, iron, and choline in tablet or powder form. Used by over 4000 health professionals, Needed is available to support pregnancy, fertility, and postpartum, as well as women's and men's health in general. Check out needed if you know there's a gap in your nutrition via code ⁠⁠OPTIMAL⁠⁠ for 20% off. Free Week of the Jen Health Membership + a massive discount!!: Looking for a movement community that gives you the plan specific to your body? Need accountability and a plan that is specific to your restrictions?! Come grab a free week of our Jen Health Membership! You'll have access to 12 plans that were all curated by Doc Jen, Dr of Physical Therapy. We make sure you get set up with the plan that will be best for your goals and the rest is laid out for you to follow! Come check it out today! We are currently running a massive discount on the annual membership! As a podcast listener, you can even get a bonus discount on top of that using code OPTIMAL at checkout! We think you'll love: Free Week of Jen Health Get A Free Week on Jen Health! Jen's Instagram Dom's Instagram YouTube Channel For full Show Notes and Resources visit: https://jen.health/podcast/392 What you will learn in this episode: 2:37 Doctor Dom introduces the topic of joint adjustments and the significance of the sounds associated with them. 7:00 The Science Behind the Crack  9:12 The hosts emphasize the temporary relief provided by adjustments and the need for long-term solutions. 12:45 Exploration of how the body reacts to adjustments and the importance of teaching it stability and strength. 16:09 Many believe the "crack" realigns bones, but studies show this is not true. 18:04 Finding stability and safety in movement can reduce the need for manipulations. 19:39 Hearing a crack can create a false sense of improvement, influencing pain perception. 22:08 Long-Term Effects of Manipulations  24:11 Addressing mindset is essential for understanding and managing pain effectively. 25:15 Pain management should include mental health, nutrition, and lifestyle factors. 26:58 Effective treatment involves guiding individuals to process their own experiences. 28:08 Recognizing the reasons behind joint manipulation can lead to healthier habits.

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, hosts Doc Jen and Doctor Dom, both doctors of physical therapy, are joined by Heather Florio, the second-generation owner of Desert Harvest and a women's health advocate. They discuss their trip to Peru in August 2024, intended to educate women about pelvic and sexual health. Despite facing challenges like lost luggage and cultural barriers, they pivoted to educate local clinicians and had a very successful trip. The conversation highlights global disparities in women's health education and the importance of cultural sensitivity. The episode underscores the need for ongoing advocacy and education to empower women worldwide.  LMNT Discount Code: Fuel every system within the body and the brain with LMNT! Keep yourself hydrated on a cellular level by replenishing the sodium, potassium, and magnesium that our body needs for basic cellular processes like nerve signaling, smooth muscle contractions, unnecessary fatigue, aches and pain, brain fog, and recovery! Get a free gift with every purchase and try some new flavors as you stay hydrated! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Get Your Free Gift! Release and Recovery Program Discount: Looking for a way to start addressing your nervous system and feel something different in the body. Our Release and Recovery Course is a perfect place to start! This course also has a day every week that is dedicated to pelvic floor exercise and optimization. It is a great way to get into movement, connect with your body, and down regulate to start into the new year. You can even grab a special discount using code OPTIMAL10 at checkout! Heather's Resources and Links: Desert Harvest Tools Youth Sexpert Program Desert Harvest Instagram We think you'll love: Release and Recovery Course Jen's Instagram Dom's Instagram YouTube Channel Find the full Show Notes and resources here: https://jen.health/podcast/391 What you will learn in this Episode: 1:12 Trip to Peru Overview  3:21 Mission and Goals for Peru  6:00 Heather recounts educating clinicians in Turkey on pelvic and sexual health, highlighting its impact. 8:16 The original aim was to teach indigenous women in Peru about sexual health, which did not materialize. 10:32 Reflections on the stark contrast between luxury travel and surrounding poverty during their visit to Machu Picchu. 13:14 Heather shares the difficulties faced at the hotel, including a near-arrest situation related to their teaching plans. 14:29 Discussion on the safety concerns arising from the cultural sensitivity surrounding their educational intentions. 17:29 The conversation highlights the cultural barriers and fears surrounding discussions of sexual health in Peru. 18:35 Jen questions why their essential medical supplies were not allowed into Peru. 22:51 Cultural Barriers in Peru  27:26 Discussion on the importance of respecting local culture while educating about women's health. 30:38 Importance of educating women about their bodies to combat high rates of sexual violence in Peru. 36:56 Discussion on the need for gradual improvements in women's health education in the U.S. and Peru. 37:36 The importance of educating individuals to empower them to teach others about pelvic health. 40:27 Initiatives aimed at educating youth about body exploration and reducing shame surrounding sexual health. 44:09 Concerns about the lack of early sexual education and its impact on children's safety and health. 47:09 Strategies for sharing educational resources with communities lacking access to sexual health information. 48:47 Acknowledgment of the varying levels of women's health advancement across different cultures and countries.

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, hosts Doc Jen and Doctor Dom, both doctors of physical therapy, share practical tips for enhancing physical health and wellness as we enter the new year. They emphasize the importance of downregulation for the nervous system, mobility training, and the benefits of barefoot living. Doc Jen highlights the role of prenatal vitamins in postpartum recovery, while Doctor Dom discusses the advantages of barefoot shoes and mobility exercises to prevent injuries. Their goal is to help listeners incorporate these practices into their routines seamlessly, promoting overall well-being without feeling overwhelmed. VivoBarefoot Discount: We cannot talk about back issues without talking about restrictions in feet and ankles. Improve your foot and ankle health and therefore everything up the chain by wearing ⁠VivoBareoot shoes⁠ to improve the mobility and strength in your toes, feet, and ankles. There's one for every occasion, including weddings, hiking, a grocery walk and casual wear, or shoes for your active lifestyle. Use code "OPTIMAL20" to get 20% off your ⁠VivoBarefoot Shoes⁠! **Vivo offers a 100-Day trial period. If you are not completely satisfied, you can send the shoes back and get a refund. Needed Discount: Although the journey of pregnancy is so personal and individual, Jen's number one question goes back to what she did to help her conceive and maintain the pregnancy. While there were a myriad of factors that contributed, she reliably counted on Needed supplements that supported her journey! Men need support as well via sperm support and men's multivitamins. While women are supported by egg quality supplementation, CoQ10, prenatal Omega 3, iron, and choline in tablet or powder form. Used by over 4000 health professionals, Needed is available to support pregnancy, fertility, and postpartum, as well as women's and men's health in general. Check out needed if you know there's a gap in your nutrition via code ⁠⁠OPTIMAL⁠⁠ for 20% off. Release and Recovery Program Discount: Looking for a way to start addressing your nervous system and feel something different in the body. Our Release and Recovery Course is a perfect place to start! It is a great way to get into movement, connect with your body, and down regulate to start into the new year. You can even grab a special discount using code OPTIMAL10 at checkout! We think you'll love: Release and Recovery Course Get A Free Week on Jen Health! Jen's Instagram Dom's Instagram YouTube Channel For Full Show Notes and Resources visit: https://jen.health/podcast/390 What you will learn in this Episode:  2:02 Tips for the New Year  5:41 Realistic Morning Routines 7:06 Breathing Techniques for Stress Relief  10:14 The Importance of Breath Awareness  12:10 Importance of Mobility Training  14:28 Assessing Mobility Restrictions 17:35 Enjoying Your Workouts  19:24 Preventing Injuries  20:18 Weekly Activity Variation 

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, hosts Doc Jen and Doctor Dom welcome Vince Pitstick, a pioneer in functional and holistic nutrition coaching. Vince shares his personal journey of overcoming early health challenges and how it shaped his holistic approach to health. He emphasizes the importance of addressing root causes and the interconnectedness of bodily systems, critiquing the fragmented nature of Western medicine. Vince advocates for a more integrated healthcare approach, offering insights into metabolic health, weight loss, and the significance of personalized, comprehensive care. This episode is a must-listen for women seeking to understand and improve their overall well-being. LMNT Discount Code: Fuel every system within the body and the brain with LMNT! Keep yourself hydrated on a cellular level by replenishing the sodium, potassium, and magnesium that our body needs for basic cellular processes like nerve signaling, smooth muscle contractions, unnecessary fatigue, aches and pain, brain fog, and recovery! Get a free gift with every purchase and try some new flavors as you stay hydrated! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Get Your Free Gift! Free Week + Holiday Discount on the Jen Health Membership: Time to start the New Year out right! We are giving our listeners their first month for only $15!! Come grab a free week of our Jen Health Membership! You'll have access to 12 plans that were all curated by Doc Jen, Dr of Physical Therapy. We make sure you get set up with the plan that will be best for your goals and the rest is laid out for you to follow! Come check it out today! You can even get a discount on your first month using code OPTIMAL10 at checkout! Vince's Resources and Links: Vince's Instagram Free Consultation with Vince's Team Vince's "The Flush" Protocol Metabolic Mentor Youtube We think you'll love: Get A Free Week on Jen Health! Jen's Instagram Dom's Instagram YouTube Channel For full Show Notes and resources, go to: https://jen.health/podcast/389 What you will learn from Vince Pitstick: 1:17 Vince's Journey Begins  4:17 Early Health Struggles  7:09 Vince discusses the importance of addressing multiple bodily systems for effective health solutions. 10:12 Vince emphasizes a holistic approach to health, integrating various modalities for better outcomes. 13:27 Challenges in the Medical System  15:37 Discusses the need for understanding behavior change to improve patient outcomes beyond just specialization in medicine. 19:44 Understanding Metabolism 26:21 Metabolic Adaptation Explained  30:37 Hormonal Imbalance in Chronic Dieters  32:44 Understanding Caloric Deficits  35:39 Severe Cellular Inflammation  39:45 Metabolic Rate and Disease  44:22 Building Psychological Wins  45:16 Dietary Changes for Metabolism 

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, Doc Jen and Doctor Dom, both doctors of physical therapy , explore running injuries and prevention strategies. They highlight the importance of foot strength, especially the use of Vivo Barefoot shoes, and discuss the benefits of structured exercise programs. A key study is reviewed, showing that hip and core strength training significantly reduces running injuries compared to foot and ankle training. The episode underscores the complexity of injury prevention, advocating for a holistic approach that includes cross-training, core awareness, and professional guidance. Ideal for women runners, this episode offers practical tips for a safer, more effective running routine. VivoBarefoot Discount: We cannot talk about back issues without talking about restrictions in feet and ankles. Improve your foot and ankle health and therefore everything up the chain by wearing ⁠VivoBareoot shoes⁠ to improve the mobility and strength in your toes, feet, and ankles. There's one for every occasion, including weddings, hiking, a grocery walk and casual wear, or shoes for your active lifestyle. Use code "TOB20" to get 20% off your ⁠VivoBarefoot Shoes⁠! **Vivo offers a 100-Day trial period. If you are not completely satisfied, you can send the shoes back and get a refund. Free Week + Hoiday Discount on the Jen Health Membership: Time to start the New Year out right! We are giving our listeners their first month for only $15!! Come grab a free week of our Jen Health Membership! You'll have access to 12 plans that were all curated by Doc Jen, Dr of Physical Therapy. We make sure you get set up with the plan that will be best for your goals and the rest is laid out for you to follow! Come check it out today! You can even get a discount on your first month using code OPTIMAL10 at checkout! We think you'll love: Get A Free Week on Jen Health! Jen's Instagram Dom's Instagram YouTube Channel See the full Show Notes and Resources here: https://jen.health/podcast/388 What You'll Learn in This Episode:  2:00 Importance of Injury Prevention  3:00 Running Injury Statistics  4:10 Explanation of the top down (hip and core) versus bottom up (foot and ankle) approaches in injury prevention. 5:40 Study Overview: Hip and Core vs. Foot and Ankle  7:30 Complexity of Injury Prevention  9:20 Results showing the hip and core program significantly reduced injury rates compared to foot/ankle and control groups. 11:40 Need for a Comprehensive Plan  14:00 Cross-Training Benefits  15:30 Plyometrics and Running  16:17 Postpartum Running Considerations 17:34 Supervised Sessions in Injury Prevention Study 

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, hosts Doc Jen and Doctor Dom, both physical therapists, welcome Dr. Jocelyn Wallace, a pelvic health specialist. The discussion centers on pelvic health, particularly following abdominal surgeries like myomectomy and hysterectomy, and issues related to fibroids. Dr. Wallace shares her personal journey of undergoing multiple surgeries due to fibroids, highlighting the lack of support and education in pelvic health. The episode emphasizes the importance of tailored rehabilitation, breathing techniques, gentle movement, and long-term care for scar tissue. It aims to empower women with knowledge and resources for better pelvic health and recovery. Needed Discount: Although the journey of pregnancy is so personal and individual, Jen's number one question goes back to what she did to help her conceive and maintain the pregnancy. While there were a myriad of factors that contributed, she reliably counted on Needed supplements that supported her journey! Men need support as well via sperm support and men's multivitamins. While women are supported by egg quality supplementation, CoQ10, prenatal Omega 3, iron, and choline in tablet or powder form. Used by over 4000 health professionals, Needed is available to support pregnancy, fertility, and postpartum, as well as women's and men's health in general. Check out needed if you know there's a gap in your nutrition via code ⁠⁠OPTIMAL⁠⁠ for 20% off. Pelvic Floor Foundations: If you are someone looking for some more connection with your pelvic floor, but don't know where to start, we have the perfect course for you! Our Pelvic Floor Foundations Course on Jen Health offers a deep dive exploration into your pelvic floor connection. It will help you build and develop dynamic and integrated function when it comes to how your pelvic floor works within your movement patterns. As a podcast listener, you can get a special discount using code OPTIMAL10 at checkout. Learn more and sign up here! Dr Wallace's Resources and Links: Dr Wallace's Website for Virtual Support Dr Jocelyn Wallace on Instagram Dr Jocelyn Wallace on Youtube We think you'll love: Get A Free Week on Jen Health! Grab our Free Postpartum Guide Tune Up Fitness Balls & Coregeous Ball Jen's Instagram Dom's Instagram YouTube Channel Get the Full Show Notes and Resources at: https://jen.health/podcast/387 What you will learn from Dr Wallace:  1:12 Dr. Wallace discusses her experiences with fibroids and the lack of support she encountered. 2:33 Dr Wallace recounts her multiple surgeries for fibroids and how they influenced her career path. 3:06 Dr. Wallace describes her first surgery during physical therapy school and its impact on her education. 4:06 She contrasts her recovery after the second surgery, applying her pelvic health knowledge. 7:27 Discussion on the significance of core strength and pelvic floor awareness post-surgery. 8:46 Exploration of the typical advice given after abdominal surgeries and its shortcomings. 10:26 Discussion on the lack of post-surgery physical therapy prescriptions for abdominal surgeries. 12:51 Discussion on chronic pelvic floor tension and its symptoms, including urinary issues. 15:27 Exploration of techniques to recognize and release pelvic floor tension. 17:58 Discussion on the misconception of Kegels as the sole solution for pelvic health. 19:27 Considerations for intimacy and sexual performance after pelvic surgeries. 20:30 Discussion on hormonal impacts on sexual experiences post-hysterectomy. 25:56 Recommendations for early movement to aid scar tissue healing after surgery. 31:41 Discussion on the importance of long-term recovery rather than rushing back to activities post-surgery.

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, hosts Doc Jen and Doctor Dom, both doctors of physical therapy, explore the topic of psoas release tools and hip flexor health. They express concerns about the safety and effectiveness of hard psoas release tools, highlighting potential risks to vital organs and nerves. Instead, they advocate for a holistic approach to addressing hip flexor tightness, emphasizing proper movement patterns, breathwork, and the use of gentler tools like the Coregeous Ball. The episode underscores the importance of understanding the root causes of tightness for long-term relief and improved body health. VivoBarefoot Discount: We cannot talk about back issues without talking about restrictions in feet and ankles. Improve your foot and ankle health and therefore everything up the chain by wearing ⁠VivoBareoot shoes⁠ to improve the mobility and strength in your toes, feet, and ankles. There's one for every occasion, including weddings, hiking, a grocery walk and casual wear, or shoes for your active lifestyle. Use code "OPTIMAL20" to get 20% off your ⁠VivoBarefoot Shoes⁠! **Vivo offers a 100-Day trial period. If you are not completely satisfied, you can send the shoes back and get a refund.  LMNT Discount Code: Fuel every system within the body and the brain with LMNT! Keep yourself hydrated on a cellular level by replenishing the sodium, potassium, and magnesium that our body needs for basic cellular processes like nerve signaling, smooth muscle contractions, unnecessary fatigue, aches and pain, brain fog, and recovery! Get a free gift with every purchase and try some new flavors as you stay hydrated! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Get Your Free Gift! Free Week of the Jen Health Membership: Looking for a movement community that gives you the plan specific to your body? Need accountability and a plan that is specific to your restrictions?! Come grab a free week of our Jen Health Membership! You'll have access to 12 plans that were all curated by Doc Jen, Dr of Physical Therapy. We make sure you get set up with the plan that will be best for your goals and the rest is laid out for you to follow! Come check it out today! You can even get a discount on your first month using code OPTIMAL at checkout! We think you'll love: Get A Free Week on Jen Health! Free Tight Hip Flexor Guide Get a Coregeous Ball Jen's Instagram Dom's Instagram YouTube Channel Get full show notes and resources here: https://jen.health/podcast/386 What you'll learn in this episode: 2:00 What are Psoas Releas Tools 5:07 Discussion on how pressure from tools affects muscle spindles and perceived muscle length. 7:28 Dom highlights potential harm from sustained pressure on vital organs and nerves. 10:04 Dom suggests safer methods like diaphragmatic breathing for psoas muscle relaxation. 13:22 Addressing Root Causes of Tightness  14:45 Jen introduces the Coregeous ball as a preferred tool for psoas release. 16:24 Discusses how addressing the front of the body can relieve low back tension. 17:21 Emphasizes the need to address the entire abdominal area, not just the psoas muscle.

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, hosts Doc Jen and Doctor Dom, both doctors of physical therapy, engage in an enlightening discussion on gut health with guest Doctor Roshini Raj, a board-certified gastroenterologist. Doctor Raj shares her journey into gastroenterology and her expertise on the gut microbiome. She emphasizes the importance of maintaining a balanced gut for overall health, offering practical advice on diet, hydration, and stress management. The episode also touches on the gut-brain connection, the significance of regular bowel movements, and the rising incidence of colon cancer among younger individuals. Black Friday/Cyber Monday Discount! Now is the time! We are having a massive 50% discount on our Annual Membership for the Jen Health Platform. This is the lowest price we EVER offer throughout the year. This membership gets you access to 12 different therapy plans that have been specially currated by Doc Jen with YOU in mind. There are plans for specific body parts: Low Back, Hip, Knee, Neck... Or plans that work on Full Body Strength, HIIT Workouts, Full Body Mobility, and Core Stability. Our community is going to be heading into the Full Body Strength Plan in December! This 50% discount only lasts a limited time! No code needed. Come and join HERE! Needed Discount: Although the journey of pregnancy is so personal and individual, Jen's number one question goes back to what she did to help her conceive and maintain the pregnancy. While there were a myriad of factors that contributed, she reliably counted on Needed supplements that supported her journey! Men need support as well via sperm support and men's multivitamins. While women are supported by egg quality supplementation, CoQ10, prenatal Omega 3, iron, and choline in tablet or powder form. Used by over 4000 health professionals, Needed is available to support pregnancy, fertility, and postpartum, as well as women's and men's health in general. Check out needed if you know there's a gap in your nutrition via code ⁠⁠OPTIMAL⁠⁠ for 20% off. Dr Raj's Resources and Links: My Yay Day Instagram My Yay Day Facebook My Yay Day Website Work with Dr Raj Gut Renovation Website We think you'll love: Get A Free Week on Jen Health! Jen's Instagram Dom's Instagram YouTube Channel See the full Shownotes and Resources at: https://jen.health/podcast/385 What you'll learn in this episode: 5:03 Doctor Raj's Journey into Gastroenterology  12:37 Doctor Raj explains what gut health and microbiome mean, emphasizing their significance for overall health. 15:34 Discussion on how the gut affects mental health through neurotransmitters and the brain-gut communication. 17:36 Strategies for keeping the gut lining intact and balancing good and bad bacteria. 19:11 Advice on incorporating fiber-rich foods and fermented items to support a healthy microbiome. 22:12 Insight into how sleep deprivation affects the microbiome and vice versa. 25:05 Importance of considering exercise, sleep, and stress management alongside diet for gut health. 27:00 Discussion on balancing indulgence in processed foods with maintaining a healthy routine. 30:35 Introduction of the 80/20 rule in travel planning related to maintaining gut health. 36:06 Preventative Measures Against Colon Cancer 41:01 Insights into the importance of monitoring bowel movements for health indicators. 46:00 Weight Loss Drugs and Colon Cancer

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, Doc Jen and Doctor Dom explore the often-misunderstood quadratus lumborum (QL) muscle, frequently blamed for low back pain. They explain the QL's role in the body, emphasizing its interactions with other muscles and fascia. The hosts discuss the importance of proper breathing techniques, particularly diaphragmatic breathing, to alleviate QL tension. They also share self-care strategies, including using tools like a Coregeous ball and foam roller, and highlight the significance of core stability and hip control. Their holistic approach aims to empower women to manage and prevent low back pain effectively. Needed Discount: Although the journey of pregnancy is so personal and individual, Jen's number one question goes back to what she did to help her conceive and maintain the pregnancy. While there were a myriad of factors that contributed, she reliably counted on Needed supplements that supported her journey! Men need support as well via sperm support and men's multivitamins. While women are supported by egg quality supplementation, CoQ10, prenatal Omega 3, iron, and choline in tablet or powder form. Used by over 4000 health professionals, Needed is available to support pregnancy, fertility, and postpartum, as well as women's and men's health in general. Check out needed if you know there's a gap in your nutrition via code ⁠⁠OPTIMAL⁠⁠ for 20% off.  LMNT Discount Code: Fuel every system within the body and the brain with LMNT! Keep yourself hydrated on a cellular level by replenishing the sodium, potassium, and magnesium that our body needs for basic cellular processes like nerve signaling, smooth muscle contractions, unnecessary fatigue, aches and pain, brain fog, and recovery! Get a free gift with every purchase and try some new flavors as you stay hydrated! ⁠⁠⁠⁠Get Your Free Gift! Free Week of the Jen Health Membership: Looking for a movement community that gives you the plan specific to your body? Need accountability and a plan that is specific to your restrictions?! Come grab a free week of our Jen Health Membership! You'll have access to 12 plans that were all curated by Doc Jen, Dr of Physical Therapy. We make sure you get set up with the plan that will be best for your goals and the rest is laid out for you to follow! Come check it out today! You can even get a discount on your first month using code OPTIMAL at checkout! We think you'll love: Get A Free Week on Jen Health! Free Low Back Pain Guide Jen's Instagram Dom's Instagram YouTube Channel Check out the full show notes and resources here: https://jen.health/podcast/384 What you'll learn in this episode: 1:52 Understanding the Quadratus Lumborum  5:04 Importance of Breathing Techniques  9:16 Fascial Connections of the QL  12:12 Approaches to QL Pain Management  16:43 Breath and Movement Integration  17:41 Core Muscle Coordination  18:45 Hip Control and Glute Activation  19:40 Single Leg Variations for Stability  20:23 Comprehensive Stretching Benefits 

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, hosts Doc Jen and Doctor Dom explore the transformative power of martial arts and meditative practices with guest Jeff Patterson, a martial arts expert with over 36 years of experience. Doc Jen highlights the importance of foot health and barefoot shoes, while Jeff shares his journey into martial arts and the benefits of meditation. The discussion covers how meditative practices can enhance athletic performance, manage stress, and improve overall well-being. Jeff also introduces the concept of "yielding" and provides practical tips for integrating meditation into daily life. VivoBarefoot Discount: Winter has arrived! There is nothing more that I love than keeping my feet warm while still gaining the benefit of barefoot shoes with Vivobarefoot's new boot collection! Improve your foot and ankle health and therefore everything up the chain by wearing ⁠VivoBareoot shoes⁠ to improve the mobility and strength in your toes, feet, and ankles. There's one for every occasion, including weddings, hiking, a grocery walk and casual wear, or shoes for your active lifestyle. Use special code "OPTIMAL25" to get 25% off your ⁠VivoBarefoot Shoes⁠! **Code is only good until December 5th! Then the code will be OPTIMAL20. Free Week of the Jen Health Membership: Looking for a movement community that gives you the plan specific to your body? Need accountability and a plan that is specific to your restrictions?! Come grab a free week of our Jen Health Membership! You'll have access to 12 plans that were all curated by Doc Jen, Dr of Physical Therapy. We make sure you get set up with the plan that will be best for your goals and the rest is laid out for you to follow! Come check it out today! You can even get a discount on your first month using code OPTIMAL at checkout! Jeff's Resources and Links: Free Book Offer: The Yielding Warrior Jeff's Instagram The Yielding Warrior Youtube Channel Yielding Warrior Website We think you'll love: Get A Free Week on Jen Health! Posture Redefined Jen's Instagram Dom's Instagram YouTube Channel Check out the full show notes and resources at: https://jen.health/podcast/383 What you will learn from Jeff Patterson:  4:40 Jeff's Journey into Martial Arts  6:28 How meditative arts enhance athletic performance and mental state for athletes 7:48 Importance of Consistency in Meditation  12:53 Jeff's three categories of meditation: ritual, active, and philosophical practices 14:25 How movement-based practices like tai chi can serve as meditation 16:51 Meditation Misconceptions 19:04 Building Ritualistic Practices  20:37 Concept of Yielding  25:23 Meditative Arts for Pain Management  29:18 Overview of the five regulations in meditative practice  36:38 Lifelong Learning in Martial Arts  37:45 Free Book Offer 

In this episode of the Optimal Body Podcast, Doc Jen and Doctor Dom, both doctors of physical therapy, discuss overcoming the fear of movement, or kinesiophobia, often experienced after injury. They emphasize the psychological barriers to recovery and offer practical strategies for gradually reintroducing movement. Topics include the importance of adaptive exercises, such as virtual reality and aquatic therapy, and the role of patient education and cognitive behavioral therapy. The speakers also highlight the significance of celebrating small wins, creating a supportive environment, and setting realistic goals to help women regain confidence and enjoy physical activity again. VivoBarefoot Discount: Winter has arrived! There is nothing more that I love than keeping my feet warm while still gaining the benefit of barefoot shoes with Vivobarefoot's new boot collection! Improve your foot and ankle health and therefore everything up the chain by wearing ⁠VivoBareoot shoes⁠ to improve the mobility and strength in your toes, feet, and ankles. There's one for every occasion, including weddings, hiking, a grocery walk and casual wear, or shoes for your active lifestyle. Use code "OPTIMAL20" to get 20% off your ⁠VivoBarefoot Shoes⁠! Needed Discount: Although the journey of pregnancy is so personal and individual, Jen's number one question goes back to what she did to help her conceive and maintain the pregnancy. While there were a myriad of factors that contributed, she reliably counted on Needed supplements that supported her journey! Men need support as well via sperm support and men multivitamins. while women are supported by egg quality supplementation, CoQ10, prenatal Omega 3, iron, and choline in tablet or powder form. Used by over 4000 health professionals, Needed is available to support pregnancy, fertility, and postpartum, as well as women's and men's health in general. Check out needed if you know there's a gap in your nutrition via code ⁠⁠OPTIMAL⁠⁠ for 20% off. Posture Redefined: Discover Posture Redefined, the ultimate course designed to help you build strength, alignment, and mobility for a pain-free, confident posture. This comprehensive challenge will guide you through exercises and techniques to transform how you move and feel every day. Don't miss your chance to redefine your posture—sign up now to cone join us and grab the early-bird discount using code OPTIMAL20 at checkout! We think you'll love: Get A Free Week on Jen Health! Posture Redefined Jen's Instagram Dom's Instagram YouTube Channel Get full show notes and resources at: https://jen.health/podcast/382 What you'll lern in this podcast:  3:30 Understanding Kinesiophobia  6:31 Importance of Movement Preparation to prevent injury 7:27 Fear avoidance behaviors can increase the risk of injuries. 9:21 Anxiety caused by negative interpretations of medical imaging. 10:46 Strategies for recognizing and managing fear responses during rehabilitation. 13:08 The need for personalized strategies based on individual fear and injury history. 14:02 Suggestions for low-impact activities to build confidence and resilience in movement. 15:12 The role of breath patterns in facilitating movement and reducing anxiety. 16:02 Additional techniques and exercise strategies to try 18:02 The role of cognitive behavioral therapy in rewiring the nervous system. 20:07 Setting Realistic Goals