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Send us a textWelcome back to the Feel Lit Alcohol Free Podcast! In this episode, hosts Coach Susan and Coach Ruby are thrilled to sit down with Jolene Park, a sought-after speaker, functional nutritionist, and creator of the revolutionary NOURISH Method ™ for alcohol-free living. Jolene is perhaps best known for her groundbreaking TED Talk, which introduced the concept of “gray area drinking”—the space between occasional drinking and end-stage alcohol dependency. With more than 350,000 views, her talk has become a cornerstone for those who don't identify as having hit “rock bottom,” yet know their relationship with alcohol isn't serving them. Jolene defines clearly what gray area drinking is and isn't and introduces her NOURISH Method ™, a physiology-first approach to healing that replaces guilt and deprivation with real, replenishing tools. From morning sunlight to magnesium, connection to curiosity—this isn't about white-knuckling. It's about resources.Have you ever asked, "Is my drinking really a problem?" Or wondered why quitting feels so hard—even when you want to? This episode is your permission slip to get curious, not judgmental—and finally understand why alcohol might be numbing what actually needs care.Episode Links & Resources:Jolene Park's TED Talk and Website: https://grayareadrinkers.comFollow Jolene on Instagram: @jolene_park Substack: https://substack.com/@jolenepark Find a Gray Area Drinking Coach: https://grayareadrinkers.com/find-a-coach/Listeners have said that our podcast has helped them get alcohol free! So we created Feel Lit 21, a way for you to press your reset button and take a 21 day break from alcohol. Every day you will receive emails with videos, journal prompts, and the inspiration you need to embrace 21 days without alcohol that feels lit! Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, and ask us any questions you have about breaking free from wine or living an alcohol-free lifestyle. Websites:Susan Larkin Coaching https://www.susanlarkincoaching.com/ Ruby Williams at Freedom Renegade Coaching https://www.freedomrenegadecoaching.com/Follow Susan: @drinklesswithsusanFollow Ruby: @rubywilliamscoachingIt is strongly recommended that you seek professional advice regarding your health before attempting to take a break from alcohol. The creators, hosts, and producers of the The Feel Lit Alcohol Free podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, or psychological advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any resource or communication on behalf of the podcast or otherwise to be a substitute for such.
Natalie chats with wellness coach (and former Baggage Reclaim student) Jolene Park about gray area drinking and understanding our relationship with alcohol. How we consume and discuss alcohol has shifted dramatically over the last decade or so and more of us are reflecting on our relationship with alcohol but also sometimes unaware of how much the past - our emotional baggage - influences how and why we drink. Learn about what gray area drinking is, why our relationship with alcohol, including how it affects us, doesn't fit neatly into the two buckets of 'those who can handle alcohol' and 'those who can't', and discover some first steps for reflecting on your own relationship with alcohol. For more links and resources related to this episode, check out the shownotes. 'Reclaimed' membership: https://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/reclaimed/ Work with me: https://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/consultations/ Baggage Reclaim: https://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk Shop courses and books: https://store.baggagereclaim.com Sign up for my newsletter: https://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/newsletter/ Leave a voice note: https://www.speakpipe.com/baggagereclaim Support the podcast and leave a tip: https://baggagereclaim.ck.page/products/podcast
Gray area drinking is a middle ground between casual social drinking and a diagnosable alcohol use disorder, often characterized by a quiet, internal struggle with moderation. Many high-achieving women find themselves here, questioning their relationship with alcohol, yet not experiencing drastic external consequences. This space can be confusing and isolating, as it doesn't fit traditional narratives around drinking problems. My guest, Jolene Park, is a functional nutritionist, TEDx speaker, and creator of the Gray Area Drinking Recovery Hub shares her journey and expertise. Together, we explore what it means to live in the gray zone of drinking and the questions that come with it 4 Ways I Can Support You In Drinking Less + Living More Join The Sobriety Starter Kit, the only sober coaching course designed specifically for busy women. My proven, step-by-step sober coaching program will teach you exactly how to stop drinking — and how to make it the best decision of your life. Save your seat in my FREE MASTERCLASS, 5 Secrets To Successfully Take a Break From Drinking Grab the Free 30-Day Guide To Quitting Drinking, 30 Tips For Your First Month Alcohol-Free. Connect with me for free sober coaching tips, updates + videos on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, Pinterest and TikTok @hellosomedaysober. Connect with Casey McGuire Davidson To find out more about Casey and her coaching programs, head over to www.hellosomedaycoaching.com
Jolene Park is a sought after speaker and leading authority on Gray-Area Drinking. Her pioneering TED talk has been viewed more than 400,000 times! Wowza! She's a functional nutritionist and health coach who provides a new and revolutionary way to rewire, replenish, and repair the nervous system after quitting drinking. Her NOURISH method applies to anyone questioning their drinking, or who has already quit — especially those who don't have a crash-and-burn drinking story.Today, Jolene guides clients through the missing physiological pieces that they need to reduce excessive alcohol consumption, anxiety, and cravings. She also trains healthcare practitioners on the importance of nourishing neurotransmitters and supporting their client's nervous system fully. Her work has been featured on NPR and many other outlets. Jolene is a Colorado native and currently lives in Charleston SC. LinksWebsite: grayareadrinkers.comInstagram: @Jolene__Park30 Day Sober Choice NOURISH Coach TrainingWelcome to the "Healthy Charleston Podcast," your ultimate guide to taking charge of your health and wellness journey. In a world where health information can be overwhelming and confusing, we strive to be your trusted source of accurate, evidence-based knowledge. Our goal is to equip you with the tools and resources you need to lead a healthier lifestyle. Tune in to each episode as we connect with inspirational community leaders in Charleston and Summerville, SC. These individuals are dedicated to creating a healthier community and they share their perspective on what health means to them. Join us as we embark on an exploration into the realms of health, well-being, and community empowerment!@healthycharleston@made2movept DON'T spend another day in pain! Request an appointment at https://www.made2movept.com/contact and get 10% off your Initial Evaluation when you mention the podcast.
Jolene Park is a sought after speaker and leading authority on Gray-Area Drinking. Her pioneering TED talk has been viewed more than 400,000 times! Wowza! She's a functional nutritionist and health coach who provides a new and revolutionary way to rewire, replenish, and repair the nervous system after quitting drinking. Her NOURISH method applies to anyone questioning their drinking, or who has already quit — especially those who don't have a crash-and-burn drinking story.Today, Jolene guides clients through the missing physiological pieces that they need to reduce excessive alcohol consumption, anxiety, and cravings. She also trains healthcare practitioners on the importance of nourishing neurotransmitters and supporting their client's nervous system fully. Her work has been featured on NPR and many other outlets. Jolene is a Colorado native and currently lives in Charleston SC. LinksWebsite: grayareadrinkers.comInstagram: @Jolene__Park30 Day Sober Choice NOURISH Coach TrainingWelcome to the "Healthy Charleston Podcast," your ultimate guide to taking charge of your health and wellness journey. In a world where health information can be overwhelming and confusing, we strive to be your trusted source of accurate, evidence-based knowledge. Our goal is to equip you with the tools and resources you need to lead a healthier lifestyle. Tune in to each episode as we connect with inspirational community leaders in Charleston and Summerville, SC. These individuals are dedicated to creating a healthier community and they share their perspective on what health means to them. Join us as we embark on an exploration into the realms of health, well-being, and community empowerment!@healthycharleston@made2movept DON'T spend another day in pain! Request an appointment at https://www.made2movept.com/contact and get 10% off your Initial Evaluation when you mention the podcast.
Celebrating our 102nd episode, we (that's Meg and Bella!) reflect on our favourite podcast episodes and the conversations that we have had the honour of recording of the last two years. Join us as we share stories from our favourite episodes featuring inspiring guests like William Porter, Professor Selena Bartlett, Annie Grace, Emma Bardwell, Sophie Scott and Jolene Park, who have enriched our understanding of how alcohol impacts our health, including menopause, anxiety, depression, joy and relationships. The transformative power of living without alcohol (or less of it!) has been the centrepiece of our podcast but the underlying issues are what make our interviews thought provoking and inspiring. Navigating life without alcohol as our safety blanket has brought newfound self-trust and stability in our relationships, and we are eager to support others on their journeys by sharing our stories and those of our guests. Our message: you are not alone and you can do this too! Tune in for a conversation that celebrates personal growth, the power of community, and the profound shift that comes with embracing an alcohol-free or alcohol-minimal lifestyle. MEGMegan Webb: https://glassfulfilled.com.auInstagram: @glassfulfilledUnwined Bookclub: https://www.alcoholfreedom.com.au/unwinedbookclubFacebook UpsideAF: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1168716054214678 BELLAIsabella Ferguson: https://isabellaferguson.com.auInstagram: @alcoholandstresswithisabellaNovember 6-Week Small Group Challenge: Learn more: https://resources.isabellaferguson.com.au/alcoholfreedomchallengeFree Healthy Holiday Helper Email Series: https://resources.isabellaferguson.com.au/offers/L4fXEtCb/checkout
Ever wondered how the "mummy wine culture" might be impacting your journey to health and fitness? Join us for an eye-opening conversation with Maggie Clausens, the host of the Sober Summit, as she candidly shares her battle with habitual wine drinking—from her first drink in high school to the sophisticated wine culture she became immersed in as an adult. Maggie's story takes a dramatic turn during the pandemic, a period that amplified her struggle due to easy access to alcohol and the lack of routine. This episode is not just Maggie's personal tale but a testament to the power of community support in overcoming alcohol dependency.Tune in to hear about the gradual increase in alcohol tolerance and the pervasive thoughts that can hijack one's mind. We dissect the insidious "mummy wine culture" and underscore the crucial role of supportive communities and resources like "This Naked Mind" and various sobriety podcasts. The Sober Summit itself is a beacon of inspiration, emerging from Maggie's own journey to help others find liberation from alcohol. The feeling of no longer being preoccupied with drinking is liberating, and Maggie emphasizes the significance of surrounding oneself with like-minded individuals committed to self-improvement.Get ready to be inspired by the upcoming Sober Summit! Maggie gives a sneak peek into what attendees can expect, including insights from renowned speakers like Sober Dave, Laura Cathcart-Robbins, Jolene Park, and Martin Lockett. Whether you're interested in the free ticket or the all-access pass, there are numerous perks such as bonuses, digital goodie bags, and engaging community activities. Maggie's commitment to personal growth and the mutual benefits of sharing stories make this episode a must-listen for anyone on the path to sobriety or those supporting someone who is. MEGMegan Webb: https://glassfulfilled.com.auInstagram: @glassfulfilledUnwined Bookclub: https://www.alcoholfreedom.com.au/unwinedbookclub BELLAIsabella Ferguson: https://isabellaferguson.com.auInstagram: @alcoholandstresswithisabellaFree 5-Day DO I HAVE A DRINKING PROBLEM? Clarify and focus series: https://resources.isabellaferguson.com.au/doIhaveadrinkingproblemwithisabellafergusonAlcohol Freedom Small Group Challenge - Register here: https://resources.isabellaferguson.com.au/alcoholfreedomchallengeThe Alcohol Revolution 6-Week Program (Online or Podcast): https://resources.isabellaferguson.com.au/thealcoholrevolutionhttps://resources.isabellaferguson.com.au/TheAlcoholRevolutionAlcoholFreeOnlineProgramOverview
Hey fam! We're on a summer break, but will be back soon. In the meantime, we hope you enjoy this encore episode!Tawny and Lisa talk to Jolene Park, founder of Healthy Discoveries. Jolene is a functional nutritionist and a pioneer in the area of “gray area drinking,” the kind where there's no rock bottom, but where one drinks to manage anxiety and later regrets how often or how much they drink. They talk about Jolene's recent Substack piece on the online sober community and how it's changed over time, including the problems with over commercialization and misrepresentations. Music Minute features Dolly Parton, Miley Cyrus and Bon Jovi Find all things Jolene: Gray Area Drinking website Gray Area Drinking coach training for coaches Substack 30 day sober choice program Sober AF bundle Private coaching Instagram Check out the Burnout Workbook Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for Tawny's newsletter, "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Order Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Today I have THE BEST guest out there to talk about the link between sugar addiction and stress and how we can understand it better and manage it. Jolene Park, functional nutritionist, Ted X Speaker, coach of coaches and expert on sugar addiction, stress, grey area drinking and a whole lot more.Are you addicted to sugar? Do you crave sugary treats when you are stressed? Are you like me and find yourself scoffing back cherry ripes in the car all by yourself hidden from the kids trying to get some respite from the day? In fact, sugar impacts the same neural pathways as alcohol!For many women, sugar cravings and emotional eating is a hidden shameful struggle that we don't often talk about. Jolene discusses the biological and emotional drive behind these cravings, including the lasting influence of stress and early childhood experiences. Learn about gut microbiome imbalances, nutritional deficiencies like magnesium, and emotional triggers that create these cravings. With an emphasis on self-compassion, we uncover that cravings are messages from the body about underlying imbalances, not signs of personal failure.Achieving holistic wellness goes beyond diet; it encompasses spiritual well-being, relationships, leisure, relaxation, and sleep. Jolene and I discuss the interconnectedness of physical and emotional health, the role of cortisol in weight management, and the benefits of nutrients like protein, magnesium, and healthy fats. Discover practical strategies for balancing your lifestyle, building resilience, and supporting overall well-being without strict deprivation. Visit my website for additional resources and support, and don't forget to subscribe and leave a review to help us reach more listeners.JOLENE PARKCoach Training: https://healthydiscoveries.mykajabi.com/nourishJolene's website: https://grayareadrinkers.com/1:1 Coaching with Jolene: https://grayareadrinkers.com/private-coaching-with-jolene-park/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jolene__parkISABELLA FERGUSONFree resource : "AM I DRINKING TOO MUCH?" FREE 5-DAY VIDEO SERIESMy web: https://isabellaferguson.com.auALCOHOL FREEDOM GROUP CHALLENGES - JOIN THE CHALLENGE!: Learn more and join in 30 MINUTE NO OBLIGATION INTRODUCTORY CALL: Book a introductory callSIGNATURE 6 WEEK ALCOHOL FREE ONLINE SELF-PACED CHALLENGE: Learn more and get started!FOLLOW MEinstagram: @alcoholandstresswithisabellalinkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/isabella-ferguson-52022b242
Tawny and Lisa talk to Jolene Park, founder of Healthy Discoveries. Jolene is a functional nutritionist and a pioneer in the area of “gray area drinking,” the kind where there's no rock bottom, but where one drinks to manage anxiety and later regrets how often or how much they drink. They talk about Jolene's recent Substack piece on the online sober community and how it's changed over time, including the problems with over commercialization and misrepresentations. Music Minute features Dolly Parton, Miley Cyrus and Bon Jovi Find all things Jolene: Gray Area Drinking website Gray Area Drinking coach training for coaches Substack 30 day sober choice program Sober AF bundle Private coaching Instagram Check out the Burnout Workbook Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for Tawny's newsletter, "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Order Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Have you just finished Dry January? Thinking about Feb Fast? Can't face either just yet? Maybe you're a ‘grey area drinker'. This term was coined in 2018 by Jolene Park, who has trained many grey area drinking coaches. Since then, a whole world of alcohol-free, sober-pride people has populated social media, talking openly about their drinking, moderating and quitting, without the stigma attached to labels like ‘alcoholic'. For mums, in particular, it's almost become a new women's lib. Similarly, ‘quit lit' has really become a popular genre of memoir in recent years.In this episode of Spirit Levels, Frank and Jenny talk to coaches Lissie Turner and Faye Lawrence, who have very different styles, as well as two women who are exploring experimentation and sobriety respectively – authors Rochelle Siemienowicz and Seana Smith. We look at how coaching works – as opposed to other methods such as rehab, AA and counselling – and how it can be improved. Host Jenny also talks about why she nearly went down the route of becoming a coach but decided she definitely wasn't the best fit for the job. LINKS Host Jenny Valentish's 2017 memoir Woman of Substances: A Journey into Addiction and Treatment was added to university course reading lists and used as educational material by treatment centres. And hey, 156 Amazon ratings give it a solid 4.4! Lissie Turner's Dissolving Patterns course and podcast, and her music industry book, Off the Record. Faye Lawrence is an alcohol, ADHD and anxiety coach. Seana Smith's Sober Journeys website. Check out her favourite quit-lit books! Rochelle Siemienowicz's memoir Fallen, about pursuing hedonism after leaving the Seventh-day Adventists. The latest quit-lit book out there is A Thousand Wasted Sundays, by Victoria Vanstone. We love the Over the Influence podcast and community. Here's their episode on Sober Code. And here's the Sober Code website.Spirit Levels on Instagram Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Jolene Park joins us this episode to talk about the importance of prioritising the nourishment of your nervous system and neurotransmitters when quitting drinking. Jolene explains why a “bottom up” approach focussing on rewiring, replenishing and repairing the nervous system is vital to the success of drinking less long term. Do you drink to relax, destress, numb anxiety or soothe an activated nervous system (most do!)? Then it is essential to incorporate resources to calm the nervous system into your sober practice. This physiological piece is often overlooked or minimised in favour of cognitive reframing work. It shouldn't be. The good news is, Jolene provides examples of simple and accessible resources that can easily be put into practice by you or your clients. Jolene is a leading authority on Grey-Area Drinking, a TED talk speaker, functional nutritionist and health coach who coaches private clients and also trains healthcare practitioners on the importance of nourishing neurotransmitters and supporting their client's nervous system.Jolene's website: https://grayareadrinkers.comJolene's instagram handle: @jolene__park Megan Webb: https://glassfulfilled.com.auInstagram: @glassfulfilledIsabella Ferguson: https://isabellaferguson.com.auInstagram: @alcoholandstresswithisabellaInstagram: @kidsandalcohol
This episode of Conversations for Health features Gray Area Drinking expert Jolene Park. Jolene stopped drinking in 2014 and has studied the functional impact of food, emotions, environments, and movement in relationship to our physical bodies, which she speaks about in her TED talk about gray area drinking. She founded Healthy Discoveries in 2001 and created Craving Brain private coaching for individuals, the Sober Choice online course for the public, and the NOURISH Method training program for coaches and healthcare practitioners who would like to specialize in Gray Area Drinking Coaching. In our conversation, Jolene addresses the key characteristics of gray area drinking. She offers tactics for practitioners who are supporting patients and clients as they evaluate their alcohol intake, including the questions to ask patients that will quickly and accurately assess their alcohol consumption. She highlights her personal experience with quitting alcohol, the supplements that helped her through the process, and the positive impact that sobriety has had on her health. Jolene offers resources, information, and encouragement for practitioners as they guide patients through gray area drinking toward a healthier lifestyle. I'm your host, Evelyne Lambrecht, thank you for designing a well world with us. Key Takeaways: [2:15] Jolene defines gray area drinking as the space between two extremes of drinking. [4:17] Alcohol use disorder varies from alcoholism in one very specific way. [6:24] Tactics for quickly identifying patients as gray area drinkers. [8:54] Key risk factors that contribute to drinking alcohol include stress in relationships, work, or sleep. [12:05] Inappropriate advice about stress management and alcohol recommendations from therapists. [15:38] Jolene's personal experience with quitting alcohol consumption. [19:00] 80% of Jolene's clients are healthcare experts including therapists, naturopaths and nutritionists, and doctors. [20:40] The physiological response to alcohol intake and comparable substitution options. [25:00] The biggest change that Jolene has seen in her own health since abstaining from alcohol. [27:04] A comprehensive approach to supporting gray area drinkers in their non-drinking journey. [30:09] Supporting healthy neurotransmitters with nutrients and supplements. [33:10] The negative impact of alcohol on perimenopause and menopausal women. [35:00] Nutrient recommendations including inositol and Jolene's favorite herbs for anxiety support. [37:15] Additional tools including Dr. Braverman's personality questionnaire and tactics for living sober in an alcohol prominent environment. [44:33] Making connections between anxiety, overall health, and drinking alcohol. [47:28] Reframing the decision not to drink in a way that makes you feel empowered. [49:20] Jolene's personal favorite supplements, favorite health practices, and her new opinion on beans. [55:00] Jolene's practitioner training program and resources for practitioners who want to guide patients through gray area drinking. Episode Resources: Jolene Park Gray Area Drinkers Gray Area Drinking TED Talk Dr. Braverman's Personality Questionnaire Design for Health Resources: Designs for Health Blog: Alcohol and Nutrient Depletion Blog: Impacts of Stress, Sleep, and Loneliness on Immune and Mental Health Blog: GABA, Tyrosine, and Taurine: Amino Acids to Support a Healthy Mood Blog: Recent Review Explores Potential Link Between Inositol and Mood Health Blog: Lemon Balm and Its Many Uses Blog: April Showers Bring May Flowers Blog: The Calming Properties of L-Theanine Visit the Designs for Health Research and Education Library which houses medical journals, protocols, webinars, and our blog.
You will not want to miss this episode; it is near and dear to my heart! Jolene Park was one of three people who personally changed the trajectory of my life. When someone told me to check out Jolene Park's famous TED Talk, and her resources on Gray Area Drinking, I said, "Huh? Gray Area Drinking? What the heck is that?"....Little did I know in that moment that that phrase, and Jolene's description of what it means to be a Gray Area Drinker, would ultimately lead me to give up alcohol for good. Leaving alcohol behind has changed my life in such profound ways that it's difficult to capture in words. It often brings tears to my eyes just thinking about it. I am so excited to bring this episode to the world because I know that so many people, especially women, are seriously struggling in this area. I see it in my friends, I see it on social media, and I see it in my community, even in my FAITH COMMUNITY, which Jolene and I decided was an important topic to discuss, so we did! I can't wait to hear how this episode blesses you, your family, your loved ones, your sisters in Christ, and beyond. It's a long one, but so worth your time friends. ************************** Jolene Park is a sought after speaker and leading authority on Gray-Area Drinking. Her pioneering TED talk has been viewed 400,000 times! Wowza! She's a functional nutritionist and health coach who provides a new and revolutionary way to rewire, replenish and repair the nervous system after quitting drinking. Her NOURISH method is applicable to anyone questioning their drinking, or who has already quit — especially those who don't have a crash-and-burn drinking story. Today, Jolene guides clients through the missing physiological pieces that they need to reduce excessive alcohol consumption, anxiety and cravings. She also trains healthcare practitioners on the importance of nourishing neurotransmitters and supporting their client's nervous system in a comprehensive way. Her work has been featured on NPR and many other outlets. Jolene is a Colorado native and currently lives in Charleston, SC. To learn more about Jolene and her offerings, you can find her at the following links: Website https://grayareadrinkers.com Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jolene__park/ Coach Training https://healthydiscoveries.mykajabi.com/nourish TED Talk https://www.ted.com/talks/jolene_park_gray_area_drinking?language=en
We love having guests on the pod to share about their quitting drinking journeys and Jolene's gray-area drinking story last week is powerful. Today's story, equally powerful but unlike any other story we've shared before, is the second part of our conversation with our friend, functional nutritionist and gray-area drinking coach, Jolene Park. From growing up a self-described “pew warmer” in her family's traditional Presbyterian church to a “spiritual but not religious” adult life, to then abandoning spirituality altogether and to more recently a pilgrimage to the Holy Land and a return to faith, Jolene's spiritual journey has taken many twists and turns along the way. Listen along to hear how an uninspired early church life and Jolene's lifelong seeker personality made it easy to get behind the “feel-good” New Age thinking that dominates the sober and sober curious spaces. What finally led to Jolene's spiritual awakening igniting her pilgrimage back to her Christian roots? How did a bad yoga experience play a big role in her journey? What do London's cathedrals have to do with this conversation? How does “faith” look different now than it did from Jolene's growing up years? How did a friend's comment about reading the bible put her on a trajectory to not just reading the bible cover to cover for the first time but actually devouring the bible? How did the teachings of C.S. Lewis, Dr. Curt Thompson and Alissa Childers inspire curiosity and help to transform her relationship with Jesus? What are the parallels between the freedom from the “New Age” and freedom from alcohol journeys? We dive head first into this messy and beautiful topic and we hope it leaves you curious and hopeful for wherever you find yourself in your alcohol and/or spiritual transformation journeys! You can learn more about Jolene, here: https://grayareadrinkers.com/ https://healthydiscoveries.mykajabi.com/nourish Connect with Meade and Christy HERE. Learn More about Coaching with Christy Learn More about Coaching with Meade Connect with us on Instagram! @imnotsoberimfree @lovelifesoberwithchristy #getconnected #staycurious #changeyourthinkingchangeyourdrinking #sobriety #alcoholfree #soberliving #alcoholfreelife #thisnakedmind #lovelifesober #imnotsoberimfree #getconnected #grayareadrinking #grayareadrinking #butjesusdrankwine #staycurious #changeyourthinkingchangeyourdrinking #christianandsober #christianity #authenticliving #journeytosobriety #wineandotherstories #vulnerabilityinrecovery The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show. YouTube: https://youtu.be/4iOzB9q_l5Q
In this eye-opening episode, we're thrilled to sit down with Jolene Park, a leading authority on Gray Area Drinking. You may recognize her from her groundbreaking TED talk, which has garnered an astounding 400,000 views. Jolene isn't just a functional nutritionist and health coach; she's also a pioneer in helping people rewire their nervous systems post-drinking using her revolutionary NOURISH method. With nearly a decade of alcohol-free living and features in major outlets like NPR and Forbes, she's the real deal. We dive deep into what it means to be a gray area drinker, exploring the support landscape that's evolved over the past 10 years. Jolene also guides us through the physiological steps necessary to reduce excessive alcohol consumption and curb those pesky cravings. Plus, don't miss her pro tips on nourishing your nervous system to avoid falling back into the drinking trap. Tune in for an enlightening conversation that could change the way you think about drinking and wellness! You can learn more about Jolene, here: https://grayareadrinkers.com/ https://healthydiscoveries.mykajabi.com/nourish Connect with Meade and Christy HERE. Learn More about Coaching with Christy Learn More about Coaching with Meade Connect with us on Instagram! @imnotsoberimfree @lovelifesoberwithchristy #getconnected #staycurious #changeyourthinkingchangeyourdrinking #sobriety #alcoholfree #soberliving #alcoholfreelife #thisnakedmind #lovelifesober #imnotsoberimfree #getconnected #grayareadrinking #grayareadrinking #butjesusdrankwine #staycurious #changeyourthinkingchangeyourdrinking #christianandsober #christianity #authenticliving #journeytosobriety #wineandotherstories #vulnerabilityinrecovery The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show.
In this episode, Justin is joined by functional nutritionist and health coach Jolene Park as they discuss the topic of alcohol from a Christian and physiological perspective. Alcohol is a timely topic and one that Justin and Jolene approach from the Scriptures, science, and history in order to try to offer a balanced view of how to have a healthy relationship with alcohol as Christians.
As always, thanks again for tuning in for another great episode of One For The Road. This week i am joined by Mandy Manners as we discuss her jounrey to soberity. Mandy is an ICF accredited Trauma-Informed Life and Recovery Coach, a Trusted Advisor & Designated Coach for the She Recovers® Foundation and a Certified Gray Area Drinking Coach, trained by Jolene Park. She is also a public speaker, an event organiser, an author of two books and a coach trainer for The Coaching Academy She coaches clients to feel empowered by their choice to change behaviours that do more harm than help. For them to find their voice, cultivate self-compassion and develop strategies to support their wellbeing. Harnessing their decision to go sober to pivot from surviving to thriving in all areas of their lives. If you want to connect with me via Instagram, you can find me on the instahandle @Soberdave https://www.instagram.com/soberdave/ or via my website https://davidwilsoncoaching.com/Provided below are links for services offering additional help and advice for Mandy.Website https://www.mandymanners.com Instagram https://www.instagram.com/mandy_manners_ Sobriety Sisterhood 2024 Bali Retreat Books : Love Yourself Sober & Love Your Sober Year Free Recovery resources for women - She RecoversLatitude Festival events created by The Zen Projectwww.drinkaware.co.uk/advice/alcohol-support-serviceshttps://nacoa.org.uk/Show producer- Daniella Attanasio-Martinez Instagram - @TheDaniellaMartinezhttps://www.instagram.com/thedaniellamartinez/www.instagram.com/grownuphustle/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
I am honored to welcome functional nutritionist and gray area drinking specialist Jolene Park to the podcast! Jolene is one of the foremost voices on gray area drinking. In this episode, Jolene shares so many facts that will help you remove the shame of gray area drinking and instead focus on replenishing what your body actually needs when it's craving alcohol. Check out Jolene's incredible TEDx Talk here: https://www.ted.com/talks/jolene_park_gray_area_drinking?language=en For more about Jolene's coaching opportunities, visit https://grayareadrinkers.com/ Do you want even more sober mom content and episodes? Join The Sober Mom Life Patreon for bonus episodes and a chance to share your story on the podcast! Join The Sober Mom Life on Patreon here We have merch!!!! Check it out here! Click here to follow @mykindofsweet on Instagram to see my full sober life Your sober journey gets to look the way YOU want it to. It doesn't have to follow anyone else's guidelines. If you're looking for a community of wonderful sober moms to support you while you build your own sober life, join us inside The Sober Mom Life Facebook group! https://www.facebook.com/groups/1542852942745657 Love this show? Let me know by rating and reviewing the show on Apple Podcasts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jolene Park joins us this episode to talk about the importance of prioritising the nourishment of your nervous system and neurotransmitters when quitting drinking. Jolene explains why a “bottom up” approach focussing on rewiring, replenishing and repairing the nervous system is vital to the success of drinking less long term. Do you drink to relax, destress, numb anxiety or soothe an activated nervous system (most do!)? Then it is essential to incorporate resources to calm the nervous system into your sober practice. This physiological piece is often overlooked or minimised in favour of cognitive reframing work. It shouldn't be. The good news is, Jolene provides examples of simple and accessible resources that can easily be put into practice by you or your clients. Jolene is a leading authority on Grey-Area Drinking, a TED talk speaker, functional nutritionist and health coach who coaches private clients and also trains healthcare practitioners on the importance of nourishing neurotransmitters and supporting their client's nervous system.Jolene's website: https://grayareadrinkers.comJolene's instagram handle: @jolene__parkMegan Webb: https://glassfulfilled.com.auInstagram: @glassfulfilledIsabella Ferguson: https://isabellaferguson.com.auInstagram: @alcoholandstresswithisabellaInstagram: @kidsandalcohol
In Episode 28, I had the pleasure of chatting with Jolene Park, an expert in Gray Area Drinking. Jolene helps explain what Gray Area Drinking is and what alcohol does to the human body. Pssst. Cancer is just one of the many downstream issues caused by drinking. Jolene Park is a sought after speaker and leading authority on Gray-Area Drinking. Her pioneering TED talk has been viewed more than 300,000 times! She's a functional nutritionist and health coach who provides a new and revolutionary way to rewire, replenish and repair the nervous system after quitting drinking. Her NOURISH method is applicable to anyone questioning their drinking, or who has already quit — especially those who don't have a crash-and-burn drinking story. Today, Jolene guides clients through the missing physiological pieces that they need to reduce excessive alcohol consumption, anxiety and cravings. She also trains healthcare practitioners on the importance of nourishing neurotransmitters and supporting their client's nervous system in a comprehensive way. Her work has been featured on NPR and many other outlets. Jolene is a Colorado native and currently lives in Charleston SC.You can find out more about Jolene Park and her work-https://grayareadrinkers.com/about-jolene-park/Her TEDx talk--https://www.ted.com/talks/jolene_park_gray_area_drinking?language=enBean Curious?You can use my CODE: BEAN20 for a discount on my e-course.Connect with Unique on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/uniquehammond/Find out how to work with Unique - https://www.youregreat.com/Learn more about The Bean Protocol - https://www.youregreat.com/the-bean-protocol
In this episode, Alex sits down with Jolene Park. Jolene Park is a sought after speaker and the leading authority on GrayArea Drinking. Her pioneering TED talk has been viewed more than 350,000 times! Wowza! She's a functional nutritionist and health coach who provides a new and revolutionary way to rewire, replenish and repair the nervous system after quitting drinking. Her NOURISH method is applicable to anyone questioning their drinking, or who has already quit — especially those who don't have a crash-and-burn drinking story. Today, Jolene guides clients through the missing physiological pieces that they need to reduce excessive alcohol consumption, anxiety and cravings. She also trains recovery coaches and healthcare practitioners on the importance of nourishing neurotransmitters and supporting their client's nervous system in a comprehensive way. Her work has been featured on NPR, Forbes and many other media outlets. Jolene is a Colorado native and currently lives in Charleston SC where she's writing her first book on Gray Area Drinking. You can learn more about Jolene at: https://grayareadrinkers.com/about-jolene-park/
#03 - Jolene Parks - Why the Body Matters EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS In this episode of midlife, we meet the Queen, the thought leader, the godmother of grey area drinking and coaching - Jolene Park. Jolene has a TED talk, which has had over 300,000 downloads. We are talking about the importance of nourishing our neurotransmitters, and supporting our nervous systems when we are looking to change our relationship with alcohol. We talk about trying to medicate a dysregulated nervous system - which is why a lot of people drink - when we've been triggered by our reaction to something or when we're feeling either really extremely joyful or we're feeling incredibly anxious. And the things that we can do, instead of drinking to calm our nervous systems in a way that moves us towards our goal of not drinking. Jolene explains exactly what Grey Area Drinking is and takes us through and grounding practice and explain why it is grounding that the body is seeking when it reaches for alcohol. It's fascinating! I think you'll love Jolene, she has had a huge influence over my coaching and alcohol-free journey. Thank you for coming on this journey with me as together we find our groove without booze. If you have any questions or topics that you would like a podcast on please click here. If you are in need of immediate support please use this link to access the resources I know and trust can help you in a crisis RESOURCES MENTIONED Jolene Parks, Grey Area Drinking: https://grayareadrinkers.com/ Sober AF Bundle https://grayareadrinkers.com/ultimate-course-bundles/ Sober Choice https://healthydiscoveries.mykajabi.com/the-sober-choice NOURISH Gray Area Drinking Coach Training https://healthydiscoveries.mykajabi.com/nourish Private 1:1 Coaching with Jolene https://grayareadrinkers.com/private-coaching-with-jolene-park/ The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma by Dr Bessel Van der Kolk This Naked Mind: The Alcohol Experiment, This Naked Life Podcasts & This Naked Mind & Alcohol Experiment Books https://thisnakedmind.com/ DON'T FORGET TO… Join my 3 day virtual retreat ‘Change your relationship with alcohol -in just 3 days- without stopping drinking' 24th-26th October 7:30-8:30 here: https://www.hoperisingcoaching.com/change-your-relationship-with-alcohol Register for my Masterclass on the ‘5 Surprising Ways taking a break from booze can be effortless AND change your life' October 27th at 5pm OR November 2nd at 7pm AEST here: https://www.hoperisingcoaching.com/5-surprising-ways-masterclass-registration-Oct%20Nov Take a 30 day break from booze with my Live Aussie Alcohol Experiment - Doors close on the 2nd November for a 3rd November start date: https://www.hoperisingcoaching.com/the_great_aussie_alcohol_experiment If you aren't ready to stop drinking but want to make some positive steps to a healthier relationship or prepare for taking a break with alcohol download my FREE Awareness Worksheets: https://www.hoperisingcoaching.com/change-your-relationship-with-alcohol If you need a quick reset or you want to get to know me and my methodology a bit more before you take a plunge into a longer program the 5 Day Alcohol Reset Program could be what you are looking for check it out here: https://www.hoperisingcoaching.com/five-day-alcohol-reset-copy-1 Learn more about Emma at: www.hoperisingcoaching.com Follow Emma on insta @hoperisingcoaching
Jolene Park is a sought after speaker and leading authority on Gray-Area Drinking. Her pioneering TED talk has been viewed more than 300,000 times! She's a functional nutritionist and health coach who provides a new and revolutionary way to rewire, replenish and repair the nervous system after quitting drinking. Her NOURISH method is applicable to anyone questioning their drinking, or who has already quit — especially those who don't have a crash-and-burn drinking story.Today, Jolene guides clients through the missing physiological pieces that they need to reduce excessive alcohol consumption, anxiety and cravings. She also trains healthcare practitioners on the importance of nourishing neurotransmitters and supporting their client's nervous system in a comprehensive way. Her work has been featured on NPR and many other outlets. Jolene is a Colorado native and currently lives in Charleston SC. In this episode, we discuss:Jolene's drinking storyHow to know if you're a Gray-Area DrinkerWhy to address our physiology first, then psychologyAnxiety & alcohol-useHow to boost neurotransmittersThe NOURISH methodTo connect with Jolene and learn more about her work, visit her website grayareadrinkers.com and follow her on Instagram @jolene__park__For more resources and training on Holistic Sober Living visit sunandmoonsoberliving.com and follow @sunandmoon.soberliving on Instagram. Our next group coaching program begins June 26th!
In the final episode of Season 1, I have the absolute privilege of interviewing Jolene Park. Jolene is a TED Speaker, a Functional Nutritionist specializing in Gray Area Drinking, and is someone I admire immensely. She stopped drinking in 2014 and has studied the impact of food, emotions, environments, and movements in relationship to our physical bodies, which she speaks about in her TED talk. This was one heck of a way to wrap up my first season of Decidedly Dry and I sure hope you enjoy our chat. Ways to connect with Jolene:IG: @jolene_parkWebsite: https://grayareadrinkers.comJolene's TED Talk: https://youtu.be/wvCMZBA7RiATools:Ultimate Sober AF Course Bundle Sober Choice - 30 day self paced programNOURISH Method coach training programTo donate and/or learn more about the show head to: www.decidedlydry.com If you enjoy the show, please subscribe, leave a 5-star review, and tell your friends about Decidedly Dry. Support the show
Jolene Park is a functional nutritionist specialising in 'gray area drinking' a term she coined that many of our listeners may be familiar with as it speaks to the truth of the spectrum of alcohol use, dependency, and addiction. Jolene's work around the somatic or 'body' piece, is incredibly powerful in setting people free and helping them to understand what feeling good in their bodies actually feels like. If it wasn't for Jolene's amazing work, this podcast simply would not exist as it was on Jolene's coach training just over a year ago that Ellie and I met. Be sure to check out all of Jolene's awesome resources including her viral Ted Talk below. It's a special one, don't miss it!
Jolene Park is a sought-after speaker and leading authority on Gray Area Drinking. Park's pioneering TED talk on Gray Area Drinking has been viewed more than 300,000 times. A functional nutritionist, health coach, and former gray area drinker Park provides a new and revolutionary way to use nutrition, somatic experiencing techniques, and the latest neuroscience to stop drinking and stay stopped. Park has studied the science of addiction for the last 25 years. She has worked in corporate wellness since 2004 and has worked with thousands of private clients. She has also been interviewed on numerous podcasts about her physiological and empowering, non-shame-based approach to quit drinking and stay stopped long term. Today, she coaches high-achieving professionals who are choosing to stop drinking for their health. They self-identify as people who “function well” and don't have a rock bottom but they want to stop drinking nonetheless. She also trains healthcare practitioners on the importance of nourishing neurotransmitters in a revolutionary way to help their gray area drinking clients replenish, rewire and repair their body and brain after drinking. Her work has been featured on NPR, and many other outlets. My Sober Choice Program: https://healthydiscoveries.mykajabi.com/the-sober-choice Website: www.grayareadrinkers.com Instagram: @jolene_park What is your current mindset? Book your FREE 30 Minute Mindset Audit Call Do you feel like you are getting nowhere fast? Do you know if you have a growth or fixed mindset? Do you want to discover what is holding you back and how you can get from where you are to where you want to be? What are you waiting for then?? Book a mindset audit session to discover how you can master your mind, overcome your limiting beliefs and lead a more authentically fulfilled life. Book Here: Mindset Business Audit Call What are you grateful for? Do you want to be featured on The Gratitude Zone? All you have to do is send me a 2 - 3 minute audio clip and include the following! Who you are What you do…(Let us know if you're a coach, podcaster, or speaker!) What you're grateful for Why are you grateful for this! Send your recorded audio clip to tamar@theroadforward.ca Be sure to add the name Gratitude Zone in the Subject of your email! Come join the Zoom Party! Do you want to network and collaborate with like-minded entrepreneurs in recovery? Then make sure you join our next Collaboration Zone Zoom Party. This will give you an opportunity to network with other entrepreneurs who can help you grow or complement your business! Social Media: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/riseinrecovery Twitter: https://twitter.com/riseinrecovery Instagram: @theroadbeyondrecovery LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamarmedford/ Website: www.theroadforward.ca
Meet Lisa Ryan! Lisa is a mutual friend of one of Alex's, Sarah Williamson. Sarah was a previous guest on the podcast. In this episode, Lisa tells her sober journey, and how she got to where she is today. After several "rock bottoms", she found herself at a crossroads in September 2014, and was ready for a different life - ready for a change. Seven years later, she doesn't consider herself "in recovery" but on a journey of discovery, living her life with joy and gratitude. Lisa is a Certified Gray Area Drinking Coach with Jolene Park and also is currently completing Coach Certification at the This Naked Mind Institute. Lisa believes in sharing her journey, which she does through writing and on social media. Lisa can be found on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/keep_looking_upwards/ . To join Alex's sober programs, find her at: https://www.themindfullifepractice.com/ .
Please Subscribe For More Episodes! iTunes: https://apple.co/30g6ALF Spotify: https://odaatchat.libsyn.com/spotify Stitcher: https://bit.ly/3n0taNQ YouTube Channel: https://bit.ly/2UpR5Lo Be sure to follow me on Instagram for daily inspiration: @odaatpodcast and @arlinaallen Connect with Jolene Park Visit Jolene's Website: https://grayareadrinkers.com/ Follow Jolene on Instagram @jolene_park Watch Jolene's TEDx talk: https://www.healthydiscoveries.com/tedx-talk/ The Lightning Round Book recommendations: Drinking, A Love Story, by Caroline Knapp Many Roads, One Journey: Moving Beyond the Twelve Steps, by Charlotte Kasl Favorite Quote: “This too shall pass” Regular Self-Care Practice: Grounding - walking barefoot on the beach, breathwork, somatic work, and healthy eating. Transcript: Arlina Allen 2:56 Jolene, thank you so much for joining me today. Jolene Park 3:03 Thanks for having me I'm I'm really looking forward to chatting with you and getting to know you a little bit more in the studio. Arlina Allen 3:09 Listen, I appreciate somebody who has done their own work and who has a lot of credibility. Can I just say that to you? Unknown Speaker 3:20 Thank you. I received that and appreciate that and feel the exact same way so I'm with you. Yeah, Arlina Allen 3:27 we were just okay, I'm not gonna go into a rant, but maybe just a tiny little soapbox. You know, little cautionary tale. There's, there's a while I love how open people are being with their recovery. I just really appreciate people who have done their own work, right? So and you'll hear it I listen, I can sniff it out in two seconds. If I'm talking to someone who has not done their own work. And I've listened, I've listened to your TED Talk, your other interviews, there's lots of really good quality stuff that you've been putting out that I really appreciate. Because you are rooted in logic, which is nice. You got a lot of science going on. I love me some science. So we'll talk about all the stuff all the things, but just for fun. Do you hear my dog barking? Yeah, one second. I'm so sorry. Unknown Speaker 4:54 Oh, I think you're still muted. Ah, here we go. Arlina Allen 5:02 Okay, I had to go. Let my I have an English bulldog named named Teddy had to let him out. Did you know that Dr. Andrew Huberman has an English bulldog? Unknown Speaker 5:11 I mean, his dog is no castellet. Well, long videos watch. Yeah, yeah. Costello was Costello Arlina Allen 5:18 okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so we were totally Unknown Speaker 5:23 embarrassed that I know that but I might make you vermin fans. Arlina Allen 5:27 Me, too. Oh my God. He's talking about him all the time. I digress. Sorry about that, I will have to edit that little part out. What I where I thought we would start is just kind of a fun little lightning round. It's a fun little icebreaker. When you first started your journey to do you call it do how do you refer to it your alcohol free journey, your sobriety journey? Unknown Speaker 5:53 alcohol free is what I use most. But you know, I'll interchange sobriety here and there, but in general, I, you know, I'll the term alcohol free is what I'm most comfortable with. Arlina Allen 6:05 Okay, cool. Yeah. I mean, it's so interesting, you know, over the years, you know, when people were first talking about getting sober, it was all about alcoholism. Right. And you and I know now that the DSM five doesn't even recognize that term anymore. It's alcohol use disorder. So which I appreciate because that sort of speaks to the spectrum. Right? There's an Oh, you're going to talk about this too. I'm not gonna steal your thunder here. But um, but yes, so when you started your alcohol free journey, were there particular books that you found really helpful? Unknown Speaker 6:42 Oh, what a fun question. Arlina Allen 6:45 I am obsessive when it comes to books. Unknown Speaker 6:48 Yeah. Because you know, when I started my journey, and Anna Grace's book was not out. Oh, okay. Unexpected joy of getting sober. You know, all of these these books, the sober diaries by Claire Pouliot. None of those. They all came after I quit drinking. Yeah, me too. So yeah, this is a really fun question. Kind of, you know, pre this big Instagram boom, about talking about alcohol free. I definitely read Carolyn naps book, the drinking love story. Have you? Have you read her memoir? Arlina Allen 7:20 I haven't. That also came out after I got sober. I heard that people read the books that came out when they got sober, or became alcohol free. Unknown Speaker 7:31 She wrote her book. I think it was in the 90s and the 90s. Yeah, okay. Yeah, she was an early, early one. And her writing is just exquisite. I mean, it's so visceral and it pulls you out. I mean, it almost it's called drinking a love story. And she really romanticizes the drink and she had an absolute 100% you know, drinking problem, but her writing is just mesmerizing. So I read her memoir a couple times. But you know, who I knew about early on to was Charlotte, I think it's castle, k s L, I never know how to say her last name. And she wrote the book moving beyond the 12 steps, many roads one journey, Arlina Allen 8:18 I think wow. And Unknown Speaker 8:21 and so she took a she looks at the physiology, which is you know, is a real core piece of my work and you know, potential things like blood sugar and, and allergies to alcohol and, and she, you know, she knew about that side as a psychologist, but, but were her work really, where she really anchored it was looking at the language of the bill Wilson's 12 steps. And so she wrote the 16 steps and more of a feminine kind of empowered approach, you know, she just turned the language and so I enjoyed her work and kind of her take on things. And I think that you know, her book came out probably in the 90s as well Arlina Allen 9:03 in the 90s that is so interesting. So I grew up in the church where I was accustomed to reading patriarchal language of the Bible and things like that. And and I was accustomed to reading things and then interpreting it like I didn't realize I was I had like this interpretation filter, so that you know, when I got sober in 94, all there was really was the 12 steps. And I was so desperate to be different and I just happened to know some people who were going and so I just kind of got they call it getting Eskimos in the cold, I guess. Um, and so that that worked for me. But it's so fascinating that there were so many women that are just like, I'm not okay with this, like this whole patriarchal thing and, and so it's so interesting to hear that Charlotte was able to sort of translate To the 16 steps I'm totally gonna have to check that out so that was a book that you read early on as well Unknown Speaker 10:06 it was because I I appreciated her comprehensive approach which is very much resonated with me about looking at the biochemistry looking at the emotional components and today's you know language around that is the somatic work the polyvagal work which Charlotte wasn't you know that's newer research but she was aware of that of that bigger comprehensive approach around the codependency is another you know term that was more traditional but that emotional sobriety and then the spiritual piece of it too and there's all different you know, currents to ride with that and and she helped me you know, have an appreciation too I've always been very neutral with with 12 steps I've been in and out of meetings you know, throughout the years and I certainly see from a nervous system standpoint the huge benefit of the community so being in a room with other human beings where you can be heard and seen and witnessed and you know, that your story is held and that's very healing to the nervous system. I understand the criticisms and I have you know, I respect you know, it's everybody has their different preference but speaking strictly from a nervous system standpoint community and the predictability the regular meetings the the support that that you know, there's a lot of dynamics in there that are very supportive to the nervous system now we can find them in you know, in churches or spiritual groups or movement groups like yoga communities or more knitting communities it doesn't have to be a recovery based community but in general community that's part of my acronym nourish uniting with others so Arlina Allen 11:55 I thought we're gonna get to that I wrote Unknown Speaker 11:58 and power code Arlina Allen 12:01 is so good it okay so I don't want to jump ahead but I'm just I'm gonna ask you about all that cuz I was listening to and I was like writing this down I was like, Oh my god, how did I not hear about this before? It's so interesting that we can sort of sort of like package or position information in a way that is so consumable and easy to remember your whole nourish, and that a knack? Is it an acronym my does that sound weird? acronym, acronym? Sorry, dear, I laugh at my own jokes. Bear with me. Um, okay, so the books these are, these are really good books. Okay, so drinking a love story, and then moving beyond the 12 steps, which I totally appreciate. Like, Unknown Speaker 12:45 let me let me throw one other in there that was very emotional. And we can as we get more into kind of the biochemistry of the book, seven weeks to sobriety was also very influential. And I can dig more into that but but the author, she has her PhD in nutrition. And she was inspired to write the book again in the 90s, I believe, is when it came out, because her teenage son, I think it was late teens, early 20s, went into to to traditional treatment, around the you know, mid 90s, and stayed sober, but was miserable. So emotionally, he came out of treatment and was still very depressed and he didn't drink but tragically then took his life because the alcohol had been removed. But the other pieces is like he didn't feel better, even though he was following you know, the program. And so his mother then said, there's something else we're not even talking about the physical side, there's this whole biochemical side and she got very interested in the nutrients and the amino acids and went on for her PhD to really learn that and then opened a treatment center in Minneapolis, called the health Recovery Center wrote a book called seven weeks to sobriety. And so that was an influential part as I was studying and learning functional medicine about that biochemical piece and and Charlotte wrote about that too. She understood some of the biochemical side but she really looked at kind of that psycho emotional spiritual. So those those were influential books to me while I was drinking like the you know, because I'm a I'm a nutritionist I'm a health coach, I have been for 20 years and so that stuff was always interesting to me. And I would read it and kind of chew on it and be like, this is kind of fascinating. It's a little bit off the traditional path. I still drink but it was planting seeds of where ultimately got me to my final stop what I used when I stopped and now what what I use in my work was was those early seeds. Arlina Allen 14:41 Yeah, so good. I mean, listen, there's a period of time like I lived in this barn, the Self Help section at Barnes and Noble trying to like think my way into right living as they say. And just because I had as I want to ask you about this a little bit later, but once having the information wasn't like applying them formation is kind of my current obsession and so we'll talk about how to apply it and but I think that's really important that we'll we'll talk about that Do you have a sort of go to mantra or quote that you live by Unknown Speaker 15:17 this too shall pass Arlina Allen 15:18 whoo that's fine Unknown Speaker 15:20 yeah or another one is you know all as well which comes from a Christian mystic in England Her name is Julian of Norwich. Yeah, I I like the Christian the feminine Christian mystics I draw a lot of wisdom from and that was that was one of her really well known quotes is well as well Arlina Allen 15:43 yeah. I love that Oh, you know what I'm what I like is that just popped into my head was in the end everything will be okay. And if it's not okay, it's not the end. Unknown Speaker 15:54 Yeah. Yeah. I often post that around New Year's, you know, turning up the calendar and kind of New Year's Eve and it feels like the end but it's you know, we're beginning Arlina Allen 16:10 Yes, every and has a beginning. I love that. Let's see, do you have a regular your own personal self care routine? Like do you like a daily practice a weekly practice, Unknown Speaker 16:24 I have a whole menu of nourishment that I have a bag of nourishment that goes Borg and self care. I'm admittedly i'm i'm not great about you know, hitting every single day. But I certainly have really favorite practices that and it changes you know, with different seasons, the time of the year as I grow and evolve and what my needs are, sometimes they're more physical, sometimes they're more emotional, sometimes more spiritual. So it shifts. Right now I'm in Charleston, right outside Charleston, South Carolina on purpose to be very close to the beach because walking barefoot on the beach scene at the beach regularly for me is a huge daily practice and regulator. So that's a biggie. Um, I like breathwork. So that's also very regulating and calming to me to do some kind of some. It's a little bit of Wim Hof. But it's not total Wim Hof. Arlina Allen 17:26 Half every morning like Monday through Friday. We host this little it's like a 25 we do Wim Hof for 10 minutes and then Tara Brock reign meditation for 10 minutes. No chit chat. No messing around, in and out. Love Unknown Speaker 17:39 Yeah, yeah. And so I find a grounding for me like literally feet on the earth and then kind of active breathwork both are very settling and soothing to me. And I like those a lot. So those are kind of my my key things saying, you know, really hydrated, sleep, regular, predictable bedtime and wake time is helpful for me. But yeah, you know, there's when I quit drinking, I was using more herbs. There's all kinds of stuff. I mean, we can all Arlina Allen 18:13 I know that. Yeah. Do you know I am just so glad that you highlighted that there are many tools that you don't do them every single day, like super hard, like you're not militant about it, and that there are different things for different seasons. Because often I talk to people, I even the clients that I coach, they're like, Oh, I didn't do this every single day. And it's like, you don't have to do it every day because our needs actually change and fluctuate. And so it's okay to be flexible, right? And just pay attention. Yeah, pay attention to what your needs are that day. And I have a client who called it her smorgasbord of things. But she you know, she did she put a time limit on it. She's like, Okay, I'm not gonna spend more than an hour, right? She's retired, she's like, I'm not gonna spend because then it becomes this other thing you beat yourself up with, like, all different things. So I like I like the flexibility. And I think consistency can be viewed, let's say over a month period of time, right? If you did, if you did something like 20 days out, that's pretty consistent. Right? You don't have to do something every day to be that's extreme thinking of consistent. We're so funny. Unknown Speaker 19:30 Yeah. And you know, he's a core philosophy of mind for myself and how I work with others, especially with women. I'm very interested in you know, the cycles and the rhythms. So in our own body within this is noticing nature, so noticing the seasons in nature, but we also have that those seasons within our own body. And so it's very linear and masculine, the masculine archetype to kind of a 24 hour cycle where it's like every morning, do a spin class. And there's nothing wrong with that. But more of the feminine Yin cycle is there's different times of the month depending if we're relating bleeding coming into oscillation, you know, out of our bleed time, our energy cycle is different. And even if you know women listening are menopausal had stopped bleeding or not bleeding for whatever reason, our bodies still sync with the moon. And so there's just times with whether the moon is full or dark a new moon, are as women, our bodies really sink in with that, and it's more about peak energy time versus a low energy time. And so it you know, you don't even have to let get militant about the moon or the moon. You know, this is my work of I'm always cueing clients of notice what feels really nourishing right now, not because you should or you have to, or somebody posted about on Instagram, but does it just feel nourishing to like, take a nap. And, and noticing that and giving yourself permission. So that's so much of my work of tracking, instead of beating ourselves with a whip, really noticing what can Arlina Allen 21:11 we Yeah, I love that you are not shame based, I can already hear it, you know, it's more nurturing and supportive. And you It's really cool. You know, a lot of the stuff, I know that you're like in the corporate world, like you're very corporate friendly, like palatable. And when I was listening to a lot of your stuff, I was thinking of my friends, you know, I'm from Silicon Valley, I did, I was corporate for a very long time. And in sales, tech sales, and so very, like male dominated very robotic, I would say, and very, like, absent of feelings. It's like, No, no, we don't talk about failing, they can talk about, they'll talk about stress, like, but that's about it, like tired or stressed. Like, the language is very limited. And so it's so it's so interesting that you have it seems like a very unique capability, capacity for being able to speak the corporate language, right, meet people where they are, but then also introduce very practical ideas, you know, paying attention to, you know, the moon and stuff like that, that that was not I did not expect that. And I think it's so refreshing when you're able to sort of live, you know, straddle the, you know, the corporate world, which is so robotic and so shot like, shallow is that I don't know if that's fair. But you know, people are trying to survive in this very, you know, a, a type driven accomplishment, don't feel anything environment. Right? Yeah. I don't know, where alcohol Unknown Speaker 22:45 comes in. Like, it makes so much sense then, when we drive ourselves at that level. Why alcohol is also so prevalent in Arlina Allen 22:52 the corporate world. Yeah, big time. Unknown Speaker 22:55 Yeah. You know, and that's where I really feel like I learned how to corporate minds love physiology. And they, they're fascinated by how the brain works, and that peak performance and, and how to manage stress, you know, that those are buzzwords. And so bringing that in, in kind of a fun inspiring, like, a little bit of a different angle. It's that's where I learned to, to really speak to this, that that was kind of a universal message. And so, you know, I certainly wouldn't lock in talking about the moon. I have, I have found that weird. You know, I'm interested in those aspects that I've found by building the rapport and laying the groundwork of when there's this gut brain connection and what the bacteria in your gut is doing. And this there's this nerve in the back of the cranium called poly vagal nerve, when it's not toned. And this dysregulation, like, which I mean, I level that too. I'm fascinated by it. I you know, I love kind of that logical, yeah, give me that, you know, what is this? Like? How does it work? Why does it work? And then building that rapport where people can be like, that's so fascinating. And then it's like, oh, and do you also know that it's our bodies are 70% water and the moon regulates the tides that the ocean water? Our body is also you know, there's a thing to that it's responding to it. Yeah. And so when we set it up in the physiology which all of this can can be backed in physiology, there's data for all of it, and then it doesn't sound so Whoo. And like, well, this is just nuts. Arlina Allen 24:43 It's like well, I love how science is explaining why woo is so fascinating, right? It's like there are those of us that less I'm pretty open minded. You know, but I need some science behind it to, but I am I almost missed the whole we should highlight the fact that Do you really like this gray area drinking expert right that's that's really how I came to know you and I thought you know that is meeting people where they are in the corporate world like in the corporate world these people are so driven and there's this perfectionism that happens in the corporate world it's like don't show any of your any of your flaws you know it's like this very robotic it's pushed yourself you know endlessly this 80 Hour Workweek is celebrated and you know they claim work life balance but you know I would be on at sales you know, quarterly business reviews where the VP would be out drinking until like, you know six in the morning and show up for the eight o'clock meeting still a little bit drunk I'm I would imagine and so it's so interesting to sort of gently like we're avoiding words like alcoholism which you know, we don't we understand that that's not really a thing anymore. There's a spectrum but the gray area drinking seems to be seems to be a very nice entry point Can you explain to the listeners like people listening they're like what is this gray area drinking because I think once you explain it everyone goes Oh, yeah, I totally know what that is. Yeah, so Unknown Speaker 26:15 I was teaching I was doing a lot of contract work from 2004 to 2011 in corporate America trip flying and traveling around the whole United States doing on site workshops being contracted to come in for exactly what you're speaking to us Can you come do these training programs for the employees on this work life balance, they're really stressed they're you know, we're watching the biometrics we're doing these health fairs and we want to have blood pressure kind of overall more in range and their cholesterol and their BMI and we realize it's more of a comprehensive approach so when you come teach them so that you know that was that's my foundation and the work I was doing and what we never talked about around blood pressure and weight and sleep issues and stress was alcohol but you know, bringing in then these resources these regulating resources of around food and around sleep and really practical things to do some regulation in the body which which employees loved and because you know, a lot of people would come into the workshop saying I know this stuff, I'm a marathon runner, you know this it's my hobby and and then we do these workshops and they're like, I didn't know this like I didn't know that about you know, grounding and what like the omega three fat actually does in my brain with my neuro chemicals and so again, people I work with, they're very well read, they're very smart they like this information, they're already reading books listening to podcasts, but then when we can apply it to peak performance and the challenges that come up because of the you know, the corporate deadlines and and a lot of people are drinking heavily and we're not talking about it. And so I would come in from the angle of your craving brain whatever your brain is craving. Here's some ways to you know, because you don't hang the hang the poster seven come to the alcohol class in the boardroom at noon, like people are not going to be alone, right? People are not going to you know, trip over themselves to get to that boardroom but when we talk about the craving brain and ways that you can regulate and work with you know, your innate body's rhythms and cycles and systems in the gut in the brain, people were really really fascinated by that. And then to your question about you know, what is gray area drinking it's that space where people are functioning really well my clients tell me this all the time, I saw it all the time in the corporate world, people function and they drink really heavily. And if they didn't fall into that those traditional definitions of like end stage, just kind of rock bottom the wheels fall off our life but they also weren't every now and again drinkers where they had a drink or two a couple times a year, they were in between this and it was this gray area where again slipping through the cracks it was the white elephant in the room that is how everybody was drinking and nobody was talking about it. And it's how I was drinking and teaching wellness you know, it's like I love this stuff I love about functional nutrition and with the body and regulating the body and then on the weekends I'd be out with my friends drinking like everybody else around me It's how we all drank but it was just you know, and then I would stop many many times and I can't keep drinking like this and I was able to stop it wasn't a problem for me to stop what was more of the problem was after a couple months saying why am I being so restrictive I can have a drink so I would go back to drinking this the staying stopped the same stop which is very characteristic of gray area drinkers because people will say you know, I don't drink every day I you know, go weeks and don't drink. I'm like that's really characteristic. But the hard thing is Sticking with that because it's this gray area of like but nothing bad has happened like I don't have this external kind of proof that there's a problem yet it's the 3am wake up the dry mouth that mentally beating ourselves up but nobody hears that conversation except us in our own head and then going through the gymnastics of okay I'm now I'm just going to drink on the weekend I'm not going to I'm not going to drink again I'm it's this whole thing that goes on for months and years that nobody ever talked about Arlina Allen 30:31 this it seems there there's this whole other layer of insanity that goes around trying to manage it right like oh well I'm just gonna drink a glass of water between drinks or I'm gonna have a glass of water by the bedside with electrolytes in it so that when I wake up in the morning in the middle of the night just totally dehydrated or you know having the Advil and the by Xen and the charcoal things and the oh my god I'm exhausted just thinking about it right it's like this whole insanity to make make it okay from for the drinking part and it's the whole back and forth that is was so exhausting I wonder so and we were talking a little bit about like just having the information is not enough it's about applying the information but don't you feel like there had to you had to like make a decision like at some point you got sick of the back and forth and you what what was there like a tipping point for you that you were just like this is that I'm done for good this time? Unknown Speaker 31:29 Well that was December 14 2014 which was the the solid in my bones resolute I'm done. This is it and you know, it wasn't a Cavalier decision It wasn't easy. Alcohol is a problem for me you know, it was very typical for me I'm just gonna have a glass I can just you know, I want to just open a bottle at home pour that glass and then I would drink it and be like, ah, screw it I'll have enough it was very easy to do you know finish the bottle that was that was my kind of typical pattern and knock on wood. Fortunately nothing you know, half bad happened like I didn't have a DUI or anything like that, but there was so much of that. That's how I drank and then I would stop many many times over the years under the wellness umbrella I'm going to do a paleo challenge I'm I'm doing a yoga you know challenge I I'm just not going to drink and people get used to that and and it worked because they knew I was in wellness they knew I was and it's like oh that makes sense like you're doing so I never really it was it I flew under the radar with it. But then I would say oh I can you know be a social drinker. I want to be a social drinker. So it really to your question, it was just so much of that back and forth which is exhausting. It never changes I would go right back to where I left off whether it was one month or seven months it didn't matter and it was just this resolute because I had bad you know back and forth so many times of just I'm tired of this. I don't want to keep doing this. I've been through different seasons with it I've been through different experiences with it. You know what I've been dating not dating really high stress with work or whatever, it just doesn't change and I had that real conversation with myself December 14 2014 going through those scenarios of like you know what if I go on this romantic holiday like what if and I was like no no, I'm just I'm done. And that was seven I'm coming up on my seven year anniversary this December. Arlina Allen 33:40 Oh my gosh, that's so exciting. Congratulations that is not easy. That is not easy. Yeah, so Okay, so you know what I love about what you do is that the science behind it the science behind like the addiction of alcoholism or alcohol the science sort of depersonalized is that right? And so it takes out the shame takes out the gill and it's like well of course you're getting addicted to alcohol Look what it's doing to your brain right and so you talk about three the neurotransmitters and a way that I thought was so good it was like oh, that's why right so you talked about GABA, serotonin and dopamine and you're gonna be able to explain it much better but when I heard you talk about it the first time I was like that as the shit Oh my god, like people need to hear this. So what is your What is your explanation behind those three neuro chemicals and how they make us feel that sort of drive the compulsion to drink Unknown Speaker 34:46 well, so that you know there's there's four major neural chemicals I hit on three of them in my TED talk, but there's four major ones. So two are the gas pedal for our body and then two are the brakes for us. So the gas pedal dopamine and serotonin. So dopamine is the drive that shapes that with the motivation to to move. To get up out of bed and produce we need that we need to be motivated. And then the acetylcholine is the other kind of gas pedal. And that's about focus and memory. And then serotonin and GABA are the brakes. So GABA is that relaxation feeling where the mind shuts off. And there's just that feeling of kind of that downshift. And serotonin is just the feeling of happiness, bliss, life is good, I'm not really needing or craving anything to fill a void right now I'm just I'm content I'm good. And so we need the balance of gas pedal what you know, we need to move and stay motivated and produce and we're, you know, accomplish and have that drive. And we need memory to have that memory bank and our focus and like these are, you know, important things just to biologically function. But then we need to balance that with rest and relaxation, and some happiness and some bliss and just contentment. And so when you know, those get out of balance for all kinds of reasons, sleep, you know, not sleeping, well, eating a lot of processed food and sugar, drugs and alcohol, trauma, stress, so all of those things can open up the valve, where's those neural chemicals just flush through us much quicker, because we're inside that's like who there's stress, there's, you know, all this sugar, all this alcohol. So we need to compensate open the valve and then all of a sudden, it's like, we're really depleted now and gabbeh or something, you know, we're going through that scenario, and the body just can't do the uptake enough to replenish and make it quick enough to fill it up. So we're the dumping it too fast, or not making it fast enough. And so when we come into baseline, the body can do what it knows to do, it can make adequate chemicals through real food, like omega three fish oil, you know, through the amino acids, those are the raw materials that then make these neural chemicals. And we can we can hold on to our neural chemicals and not just flesh them through our system so quickly, by you know, some different practices and movement and rest and good replenishing sleep. And so to me, it's it's where the rubber meets the road with all of the practices, exercises, theories, techniques, because you spoke to it a minute ago about how we can just kind of get into like this militant, like I need to do it, I should do it. I heard it's good. I heard it's bad. I heard it's like, no, it's about noticing, what are you needed to replenish right now what's deficient and depleted. And so the body's just trying to keep us in homeostasis, and that, and then we reach to alcohol. So it's like when we understand the physiology, it's like, Oh, interesting, something's depleted and deficient, physiologically, not psychologically. And so the body's just trying to compensate. So alcohol is a physical substance, our physical body is depleted, we and our physical body, and we get a physical effect very immediately. So the body's like, keep doing it, like i don't i, this, it seems to work immediately. So and that's been where that addictive loop gets in. So where I then work is, let's lift the hood, what's depleted in the first place, biochemically, emotionally, energetically, and let's replenish what's truly needing to be replenished. It's not because you're a bad person, or you did something wrong. It's just like going to be in the body detective, the body whisperer, which I love doing. And, and often, it's just, you know, it doesn't have to be really complicated. It's just going back to the basics. And I'd find this in the corporate world all the time, too. We want the shiny, you know, stuff, the shiny next thing, and nobody's hydrated. Nobody's sleeping regularly. And this is where the application comes down. Because it's, it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I should drink more water should get better slide, Arlina Allen 39:12 isn't it, nobody wants to hear that. Unknown Speaker 39:17 It's not sexy. It's not glamorous, and we're out the other. I'm the same way I get it. But what's really cool about this work is when you have the actual experience. So when you actually have a 10 hour night of deep restorative sleep, it's mind blowing, it's a 180 it's the same way with, you know, sewers, Unknown Speaker 39:36 or certain things. And so I'm always working with clients of like, it's not about getting a gold star from me and checking the box and doing all these things to perform and achieve. That's what makes us want to drink because we're, we're exhausted. So now it's when you put something in when you add it in, what happens because when we drink something happens and so if you're not noticing an effect that's really Positive that you can, you know, like, again, when I do breath work, there's an effect. Like, I feel that I mean, there's this bliss and this calm that moves through my body by by, you know, consciously doing different practices with my breath. So it's like I want to do that again, like that almost feels like I just had a glass of wine, what I did with that breathwork so that's the work and it's it's exciting, it can be really inspiring. And it's very empowering to go back to the physiology because that's where all the secrets and the magic are. And it puts aside the psychological shame that we've kind of gotten tangled in that's really unnecessary. Yeah, Arlina Allen 40:40 you know, you hit on something that kind of sparked a light me which is about adding in, because a lot of recovery is about taking away, right, we're taking away the one thing like listen, when I was still drinking, and I smoked a lot of weed. Taking I was I loved those things, those were the things that receiving me, right and I crashed and burned early, I was done at 25. Because I did not manage, because not managing well. But to let them go was so hard because it was I felt like the thing that was bringing me like that was saving me so to let it so deprivation, I you know is a big thing for people that are you know, going alcohol free, or getting sober or whatever. And I love the idea that you're presenting which is adding in, right, let's add in the things that give you the feeling that we wanted from the drugs or alcohol in the first place. So it's a totally different mindset instead of deprivation. It's about adding I love that idea. Unknown Speaker 41:46 Yeah, I do too. deprivation doesn't work for me. So I'm not going to try to talk with somebody else or coach somebody else through deprivation, like I don't want to be deprived who does. Nobody wants that. It doesn't work. So I would Arlina Allen 41:58 be there we would be broken alone. Unknown Speaker 42:02 And we know from behavior change from behavior, psychology, that deprivation, it never works now, but I can put it back in the physiology. So what we're dealing with is the amygdala and the animal brain, the animal brain only concern it has one concern as to keep us alive, right? And so if there's a sense of deprivation, that signals it's a biological signal, we're gonna die. So who's gonna win? Is that animal, right? Every time. So we've got to give the message then to the amygdala, that alarm center in the body that we're not in this deprivation, like we're not going to die, you're, we want to give that animal something. And, and that animal kind of limbic brain, it doesn't understand language. So this is why you know, saying, Just relax. Arlina Allen 42:51 Don't ever tell an angry woman to relax? Yeah, Unknown Speaker 42:54 well, it's like, it's literally like saying to an animal, just relax. They don't understand words our animal brain does literally doesn't understand words. But what it understands is sensation. And so alcohol gives us sensation in the physical body, walking barefoot on the beach gives a physical sensation. If I take a gamma boosting herb, it gives us sensation. And so that's where it's like the rubber meets the road with these practices of what we're doing is we're working on the physiology to give us sensation, that then travels up the spinal cord from the body into the brain saying, Oh, that feels good. And the animal brain is like, Okay, I'm not deprived, I feel this comfort, I feel soothing, I feel contained, which is what we're ultimately looking for. So it's not you give up alcohol and jump off a cliff and just hold your breath and hope for the best. It's, you make a decision to stop alcohol, and then open up this door and explore all of these really cold processes that give a physiological effect that no one ever taught us. But Arlina Allen 43:59 exactly nobody ever taught us that's why we're using reaching for things that are not good for us because you know, that's what's available. We don't know about all these other things. And this is really speaks to the I want to get to the nurse thing, don't let me forget. But I wanted to also point out something that you highlight, which is it used to be that we would talk about the brain first and then the body and you flip that around, you're talking about addressing the somatic experience and and you hit the nail on the head when you're talking about experience and feelings. Right? And so talk to me a little bit about how we you're we're looking at this differently now we're looking at somatic and then neuro chemistry. Unknown Speaker 44:45 So you know, that's the latest neuroscience, where Bessel Vander kolk, who wrote the bought the book, the body keeps the score. Oh, Peter Levine, who is the grandfather of somatic experiencing. This is the current research and it's not their opinion. It's I mean, the data is there. Arlina Allen 45:02 Yeah, there, we have empirical data, we've got the Unknown Speaker 45:05 data, they're doing the studies, they're you know, they're measuring gabbeh levels, then they have a group of people do 60 minutes of yoga, and then they measure their data levels again, so they're really watching this kind of stuff. But where all of this kind of somatic new neuroscience, what they find from research, not opinion, is that it's bottom up, not top down. So we work with the body, which is kind of all the stuff I've been talking about when we shift the body and the body can start to feel a sensation of calm, and soothing and grounding. That message goes up the spinal cord to the brain. And then the brain can say, the animal brain can say, okay, we're, we're okay with that. Because, again, that animal brain doesn't understand language. So we can't talk to the animal brain. We have to have feel that sensations in the body in really practical ways. This is not esoteric. Whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo. Arlina Allen 46:01 I like blue. But this is science. Unknown Speaker 46:03 Yeah, yeah. So that it's, you know, it's where the neurosciences and so that's where I work I work with with physiology with Arlina Allen 46:11 physiology. Okay. And that makes perfect sense. And that maybe this is a good segue Can we talk about your acronym for nourish because it was all Unknown Speaker 46:21 good, thank you. So as a as a functional nutritionist, my just really kind of, to pick a word that embodies my work over 20 years, it's it's nourish, which is my strength, and also my shadow, because the work for me is continually nourishing myself and not just food. So what I teach is what I also learn and keep practice. Yeah, so I'm always you know, it's not like I just quit drinking and now I've arrived and tell everybody else what they need to do. Constant practice, alright, but but the word that anchors that for me is nourish and then I created an acronym out of that for for my TED Talk. And so and is notice nature. Oh is observe your breath. You is unite with others are replenished with food. I initiate movement. s sit in stillness, and h is harnessed creativity. And I'm working on my book right now all about that, oh, there's numerous, numerous options and resources and things within each of those categories. But it really brings that whole comprehensive approach biochemical, somatic, emotional, energetic routines, that different things work for different people for regulating and nourishing the nervous system. Arlina Allen 47:51 You just said something in my eyes lit up, because everybody is different, right? There's so many different paths to this sort of recovery, sobriety, alcohol free life, right? Not there's no one solution that works for everybody. And I think that's largely what's so confusing, is, there are so many, like everybody is so different. And there are so many different tools, but I like the idea that this nourish actually can be applied no matter what your specific situation it is. Your situation is. So what are some of the you mentioned, different supplements and things to sort of regulate those? You know, the GABA, serotonin, dopamine, acetylcholine? What if someone's curious about like, what they should be using? Do you have a resource on your website? Or maybe you can just rattle off a few things that people might try? Unknown Speaker 48:50 Yeah, yeah, I'm happy to kind of talk through some of those pieces. So I work with clients one on one to really customize this piece. And kind of piggyback on what you just said, I really work with biochemical individuality. So I can rattle off some things, but it surrounds snowflakes, Arlina Allen 49:06 unique snowflakes, right? It doesn't Unknown Speaker 49:09 mean everybody out there then needs to take this particular supplement or eat this particular food. And B, this is my functional medicine background of what is individual for your biochemistry. And there's different ways to test that. And we can do lab testing and things. But But you know, the easiest, most inexpensive way is when you eat something, when you take something when you do something, notice what happens next, and three things happen. And it can be a really profound like, wow, that helps so much. My mind is blown right now. Or it can be kind of a neutral, like didn't really feel anything one way or the other. Or it can be I hated that, and I don't like how I feel now. And so I'm always cueing people back to that and the more kind of regulated and grounded we are in our body when the body is Calm, and there's practices and ways to do that, the easier it is then to kind of notice, like, what just happened here. Whereas if we're always kind of up in our head and just running and you know, in that intellect mental, it's hard to be like, I don't even know if I liked it. I mean, I just did it. So that's the argument of kind of somatic work. But um, but going back to just kind of some things, you know, I recommend, so biochemically whole food is king is golden. eating real food is is a great place to start. So did it grow from the ground? Can you pick it? berries? You know, bananas off the tree? Can you know, can you hunt it? If you eat meat? Can you gather it like gathering fish, or eggs or cream from the cow. So actual real food, that there isn't a list of ingredients, you know, 43 letters long and a whole paragraph. Real Food. And this is what I would teach in corporate all the time is, it's actually really, really fascinating. You know, one of the most fascinating lectures I ever heard in functional medicine, was a medical doctor who lectured about broccoli for an hour, it was fascinating. Because the chemical breakdown in broccoli, and every fruit and every vegetable, some of that we are still discovering. Because it's like, yeah, yeah, eat your vegetables. But when you really break it down, it's mind blowing, like what that, again, it's physical food and our physical body, what that does. So going back to the basics of whole food, if there's anything I can inspire people with is eat real food. That's in season, it's local, it's colorful, if possible, sometimes that's not always possible. But starting there, you know, eating regularly, because then the body breaks down into amino acids that are the raw materials for the brain. When you eat real, healthy fats, those break down into the omega three fats, some of our omega six fats, those are those necessary fats, again, for the brain, you know, good vegetables, even fermented vegetables, like sauerkraut, that's that good bacteria that goes into the gut. So there's just, it's just endless. The benefits of, you know, the exciting, like, mechanisms within food. And so I like to start there and try to you know, inspire people, and you don't have to, like clear your cupboards. It doesn't have to be radical. Yeah, I'm never radical about any of this. But the idea of adding something in instead of trying to take a bunch of stuff out, add in real food, Arlina Allen 52:39 and real food, that isn't it? Yeah. And I think you were, I think I heard you say that the amino acids and the proteins are the building blocks to these neuro chemicals that we need. And like, at the end of the day, when maybe your gamma is low, or serotonin, or whatever it may be, all of them are low at the end, is that true that it's low at the end of the day? Unknown Speaker 53:00 That's a good question. Um, I think it's more kind of over time, you know, like a 30 day period, a snapshot of like, what are we, you know, kind of dumping in that period, although there are urine tests that we do a 24 hour urine collection, and they are seeing like, how much of the neurotransmitter were dumped into our urine in a 24 hour period. So I think it's both you know, just kind of seeing like, the pattern that the body is on but also it's interesting, like what happens over over a longer period too. Arlina Allen 53:32 Yeah, the reason I asked about the end of the day because I feel like that's like the witching hour for a lot of people, you know, but I think it speaks to meeting like we're so jacked up all day trying to get stuff done, that in the evening we're trying to do was deregulate down regulate to regulate, yeah, just just regulate, yeah, emotion management thing. Unknown Speaker 53:56 So biochemistry is a huge part of it, our neuro chemicals, our blood sugar, our you know, our thyroid, our gut bacteria, our adrenal function. So adrenals are closely connected with dopamine. So if we're running on cortisol and adrenaline, then we're also pulling down on dopamine as well. Every neural chemicals connected with a hormone. So progesterone and gabbeh are connected, which I find a lot of women who are in this gray area struggle with wine are low and progesterone and low and Gabba. And you know, a common kind of symptom complaint of those two chemicals being low is anxiety and difficulty sleeping. And so a lot of women that are reaching to wine to help them sleep and to help manage their anxiety and when we lift the physiological hood, it's low gabicce, low progesterone. So there's all of these kind of physiological pieces, we can start with food, there's different nutrients that can i Find a lot of women are low and gabbeh. Dopamine is the sexy neuro chemical that everybody's like, oh, the dopamine hit the dopamine hit but but in reality, if we're really trying to boost dopamine, we tend to be more interested in things like cocaine, ecstasy, espresso, a pot of coffee, where if we're cocaine or coffee is more low gabbeh, which I'm certainly have that predisposition to be low gabbeh that's been more reaching to things like marijuana, Cannabis, alcohol to hit that off switch. So it's interesting what people you know, reach to so that's the biochemical side, there's some herbs or some nutrients to boost GABA boost dopamine, but then there's also what you're talking about kind of the witching hour, at the end of the day, that then goes into some of just the nervous system fight flight freeze response. So it's not always biochemical, but they're all interconnected, they all work together. If we're in a constant flee response, we're going to be dumping a lot more, you know, of our gas, the dopamine they see, so it all connects. But the but the fight flee freeze response. And if we're, if that valve is always on, if we're always kind of in a flee or in a fight, or we've just in that frozen kind of immobilized, protective state, that's exhausting. Any of those states if the, if the on switch is always on. So by the end of the day, it's hard to continue, we're exhausted holding that dysregulated state. So now we want to regulate it with alcohol to kind of let the valve off constantly, you know, we're fleeing, we want to move we want to, and it's like, I want to stop and slow down. So it could be some of that polyvagal kind of stress response, as well. And then there's, you know, the, the energetic side of things. So this is acupuncture, you know, they talk about, like how the energy moves in the body. So, if there's an area that's, that's more stuck, or moving really fast, and that's where body work comes in acupuncture, you know, working with the energy system, so there's no one size fits all, but I work with people to get kind of the full story. And it's like, where do we want to kind of start here with what might be a missing piece? And what might be depleted? And it's so Arlina Allen 57:17 good, how do people connect with you if they want to reach out and work with you. Unknown Speaker 57:23 So gray area drinkers calm is my sites where all my info is, you can email me I work with clients, one on one, I have a coach training where I train other coaches on the nourish method. And my TED Talks, there are lots of interviews I've done. And then I have did a podcast as well called edit, editing, our drinking and our lives. And so all of that on gray area drinkers calm. Arlina Allen 57:48 That is amazing. I leave all leave links, ever. I know people are probably taking notes or driving or whatever. So I'll leave all the links in the show notes. But this has been such a fascinating conversation. I could easily talk to you for the rest of the day. So many questions. And I just think this was so helpful. Thank you so much for joining me today. Thank you so much for having me. It's fun to meet you and chat with you. Thank you. Yeah, definitely. Thanks so much. And I'll leave all the show notes, links in the show notes how people can get a hold of you. Unknown Speaker 58:20 Wonderful. Thank you. Arlina Allen 58:22 Thanks.
Laura & Clayton chat with "Gray Area Drinking" specialist Jolene Park. A functional nutritionist, health coach and TEDx speaker, Jolene shares her personal alcohol and anxiety story and explains the importance of replenishing neurotransmitters and nourishing our nervous systems in a comprehensive and consistent way. On What The Health?!: Are magic mushrooms moving into the mainstream? What The Func?! is produced by the Functional Medicine Coaching Academy. Instagram: @whatthefunc Twitter: @whatthefuncpod Facebook: @whatthefuncpodcast
Jolene didn't call her self an alcoholic but she knew in no uncertain terms that her drinking was problematic. She was in the space she calls grey area drinkers. She took a body first approach using nutrition and somatic expanding to change her relationship with alcohol.
Her incredible TEDx talk has over 180K views and counting. Jolene Park is the expert on great area drinking and she walks us through her recovery journey and how she helps other women recover as well.
What is Gray Area Drinking? It describes the space where most drinkers live: a place between being able to ‘take or leave' alcohol and hitting some kind of a ‘rock bottom' where you are experiencing external consequences associated with being on the alcohol use disorder spectrum or identified as signs of alcoholism. In a world where everything seems to be black and white, where either you have a problem with drinking or you don't, there are so many of us who try to moderate our drinking and struggle to do so. You might not experience outward consequences from drinking, but struggle internally. You have silent conversations with yourself about your own drinking. You intend to have one glass of wine, but then find it easy to finish the whole bottle. You stop drinking for days, weeks or months, but then start drinking again and find yourself back in the same place. It's a really confusing place to live when you realize that the way you drink isn't helping you have the life you want but you live in a world where drinking is all around you. So how do you know if it's time to make an “early exit” from the drinking life? And what does that even look like and feel like? Those are the questions we're digging into today with my guest, Jolene Park. Jolene is a functional nutritionist, a health coach, a TEDx speaker, a former gray area drinker and the creator of the gray area drinking recovery hub. Jolene describes the term “gray area drinking” as the kind of drinking where there's no rock bottom, but you drink as a way to manage anxiety and then regret how much and how often you drink. In this episode, we discuss: What gray area drinking is. How to determine if you're a gray area drinker and what to do about it. Why so many of us use alcohol to downshift and calm down at the end of a busy, stressful day. Jolene's personal alcohol and anxiety story and why she decided to make an early exit from the drinking life. What drinking does to your body. How to eliminate alcohol and sugar cravings and reduce anxiety by using real food, high-quality nutrients and cutting-edge mind/body techniques. The functional impact of food, emotions, environment and movement in relation to our physical bodies. The importance of replenishing our neurotransmitters and nourishing our nervous systems in a comprehensive and consistent way. The missing pieces that have been overlooked in traditional recovery programs such as neurotransmitters (GABA, serotonin, dopamine), blood sugar imbalance, and nutrient deficiencies like B6 and zinc (pyroluria). Specific supplements that boost your GABA Holy basil Lemon balm Passion flower Inositol L-theanine About Jolene Park: Jolene Park coaches high achieving professionals who want to eliminate alcohol and sugar cravings and reduce their anxiety by using real food, high-quality nutrients and cutting-edge mind/body techniques. Shownotes: www.hellosomedaycoaching.com/25 Grab your Free Sober Girls Guide To Quitting Drinking Connect with Jolene Park Visit Jolene's Website: https://www.healthydiscoveries.com/ Follow Jolene on Instagram @jolene_park Watch Jolene's TEDx talk: https://www.healthydiscoveries.com/tedx-talk/ Listen to the Editing Our Drinking and Our Lives Podcast with Jolene Park & Aidan Donnelley Rowley Connect with Casey McGuire Davidson Website: www.hellosomedaycoaching.com Instagram: Casey @ Hello Someday Coaching (@caseymdavidson) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HelloSomeday Listen to more podcast episodes to drink less + live more.
Yey! I'm 1000 days sober, rather than just chat I thought I'd chat with Lee Davy from 1000 Days Sober! Enjoy! The Sober Club will be opening for new members for 48 hours at the end of August, sign up to the waiting list and get a free pdf on meal planning and mood / food Sign up here. (https://thesoberclub.lpages.co/the-sober-club-waiting-list-meal-planner-and-food-mood-tracker/) If you are doing Sober October, stay connected! Don't forget I offer one to one coaching: janey@janeyleegrace.com Are you a therapist or coach? I trained with the amazing Jolene Park, get in touch if you'd like to know more about her training for therapists, coaches, practitioners, its invaluable! Heres the link, (https://healthydiscoveries.mykajabi.com/grey-area-drinkers-recovery-coach?ref=https%3A%2F%2Fhealthydiscoveries.mykajabi.com%2Fa%2F35865%2FwVSZUB3B) You can DM me for the inside info! Follow me on social @janeyleegrace
I recently learned that there is something called “Gray Area Drinking” and it seems to be impacting more women than ever before! In this podcast episode, I interview Tedx Talk speaker Jolene Park to understand what a Gray Area Drinker is, what you can do about it and how it might change your life to address this aspect of your life.
I recently learned that there is something called “Gray Area Drinking” and it seems to be impacting more women than ever before! In this podcast episode, I interview Tedx Talk speaker Jolene Park to understand what a Gray Area Drinker is, what you can do about it and how it might change your life to address this aspect of your life.
This week, I'm talking with Jolene Park about something that's SO IMPORTANT to us over-ambitious, wanna-do-it-all humans: how to calm down, reset, and nourish our nervous systems! It's time to get out of the frantic spin, y'all, and move towards peace, progress, and the lives we really want. We also talk about gray-area drinking, how all kinds of numbing isn't serving us (but why we do it anyways), our animal instincts that drive us into fight, flight, or freeze, and how we can learn to sit still. It's good -- enjoy, enjoy! Show Notes: Submit a q for a future Friday Quickie episode Connect with Tiffany on Insta Get Tiffany's newsletter and stay in the know Did you leave a RYHSY review? Request your sticker here! Connect with Jolene:Site | Instagram | Podcast Jolene's TEDx talk on Gray Area Drinking + her NOURISH system RYHSY On My Quitting Drinking Story Jolene's Sober Choice Program The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk M.D. Eating in the Light of the Moon by Anita Johnson Ph.D. Gabor Mate
This week, I'm talking with Jolene Park about something that's SO IMPORTANT to us over-ambitious, wanna-do-it-all humans: how to calm down, reset, and nourish our nervous systems! It's time to get out of the frantic spin, y'all, and move towards peace, progress, and the lives we really want. We also talk about gray-area drinking, how all kinds of numbing isn't serving us (but why we do it anyways), our animal instincts that drive us into fight, flight, or freeze, and how we can learn to sit still. It's good -- enjoy, enjoy! Show Notes: Submit a q for a future Friday Quickie episode Connect with Tiffany on Insta Get Tiffany's newsletter and stay in the know Did you leave a RYHSY review? Request your sticker here! Connect with Jolene:Site | Instagram | Podcast Jolene's TEDx talk on Gray Area Drinking + her NOURISH system RYHSY On My Quitting Drinking Story Jolene's Sober Choice Program The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk M.D. Eating in the Light of the Moon by Anita Johnson Ph.D. Gabor Mate
Jolene Park and her friends were like the cast of Sex in the City with their nights on the town and affinity for classy wines while complaining about their relationship struggles. The dots where there, but Jolene couldn't connect them. Until she stopped drinking. Now Jolene is a leading voice talking about the benefits of going alcohol free, no matter where you are on the spectrum from casual drinker to falling-down drunk. Learn more about her nutrition and freedom from drinking coaching at grayareadrinkers.com and healthydiscoveries.com. Check out Jolene's interview on the Home Podcast with Laura McKowen and Holly Whitaker that really launched her work in this area. Then, check out her Tedx that went viral and has over 120,000 views. This is a great conversation with a health care professional and sobriety badass doing great work to destroy the stigma and help people become their best selves when they leave drinking behind.
This month, we celebrate Karly's three years sober! Then we interview Jolene Park of Healthy Discoveries. Jolene Park is a functional nutritionist, health coach, TEDx speaker, Former Gray Area Drinker and creator of the Gray Area Drinking Recovery Hub. Almost 5 years ago, she left gray area drinking behind and it has been her mission to guide and support others as they do the same. Founding Healthy Discoveries® in 2001, she has coached 100+ high achieving professionals through their own recovery process. In her TEDx talk about Gray Area Drinking she shares her personal alcohol and anxiety story and explains the importance of replenishing our neurotransmitters and nourishing our nervous systems in a comprehensive and consistent way. After realizing the impact of her TEDx talk she now certifies other coaches and health practitioners in her unique method, and runs the Nourish Your Cravings online community for former gray area drinkers to thrive. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app
Continuing with the summer guest co-host series, Tammi gets to spend some time talking to Jolene Park. You may know Jolene from her previous interview (Ep. 49). She works as a functional nutritionist and health coach through her company, Healthy Discoveries, and also co-hosts the podcast, EDIT: Editing Our Drinking & Our Lives and leads the Nourish Your Cravings Community, an online community where former “gray area drinkers” thrive. They touch on the labels that can often be assigned to us when we remove alcohol from our lives and they also take a deep dive into the four phases of our monthly energy cycles, feminine wisdom and how these are key next steps in alcohol-free living. There is so much here and Jolene really knows her stuff. You'll definitely want to take notes. If you want more of Jolene's work, she can be found at http://www.healthydiscoveries.com or on Instagram @healthy_discoveries. This week Jolene shares three items from her Unruffled Toolbox: (1) Lymphatic Draining w/ Dry Skin Brushing + Rebounding; (2) Walking in Nature; and (3) Energy Clearing Practices.
Its TED talk week and one person I am going to give a shout out to during the talk is Jolene Park, of the TED talk 'Gray Area Drinkers' fame, I love her work and it seemed fitting to have her as our guest on the podcast. Updated Another heads up for our online community The Sober Club www.thesoberclub.com (http://www.thesoberclub.com/) no obligation whatsoever, and you will get our pdf 'Selfcare in Sobriety' If being part of a club / community isn't your thing no worries at all the podcast remains free and I will continue to do it while I have great inspirational guests! UPDATE; The Sober Club is up and running - join us Selfcare I forgot to offer a selfcare tip! But here it is …Treat yourself some lovely PJ’s or lounge-wear or a floppy T shirt – whatever you want to call it, because in early sobriety its just fantastic to get snuggly and go to bed early. Good one right? The next Selfcare for the Sober Curious event is on Monday July 22nd, at The Jago a funky club in London, bit of a party we hope as we did promo our 'stay dry till July' campaign in Jan, go to eventbrite type My Yard (the charity) and get your FREE ticket If you're nervous drop us a DM and we will make sure you are welcome, its very infromal. Here's the link for tickets https://bit.ly/2KZZ9PL
Part 1 - Check out part 2 which will be released now too! The Pod is back! We’re so happy to be having a chat about all things sober again, after a well needed break to down tools and regroup. This Episode we talk about what we have been upto recently and what we have taken away from recent experiences. We talk about Mandy’s trip to Ireland to Croí - Amanda Grace’s creative retreat and we also talk about our first Love Sober workshop and what we took away from that experience and from the incredible Jolene Park. So grab a cuppa and join us for a chat. Resources mentioned: Amanda Grace - https://www.amandagraceart.com/ The Biscuit Factory (Creative Community https://www.facebook.com/groups/bitethebiscuit/?ref=share) Jolene Park https://grayareadrinkers.com/ Brené Brown - Braving the Wilderness https://brenebrown.com/
This week on the Love Sober Podcast Mandy talked with Jolene Park. Jolene Park is a great friend of ours and hugely knowledgeable on holistic health. Her TEDx talk introduced to us the notion of “Grey Area” drinkers and the NOURISH acronym has been hugely helpful in our understanding of our own relationship with alcohol. Jolene is over in Europe facilitating workshops including our first event. Love Yourself Sober: Nuture Yourself on the 13th April in Brighton. https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/love-sober-life-nurture-yourself-sober-with-jolene-park-tickets-55520951661 Jolene is nutritionist, health coach and TEDx speaker. She also co-hosts the Edit Podcast, editing our drinking and our lives with Aiden Donnelly Rowley. Jolene founded www.GrayAreaDrinkers.com. This is an online hub for gray area drinkers to get support, for former gray area drinkers to unite and for coaches to learn Jolene’s exclusive techniques. We chat about what Jolene will focus on in the workshop. Why she stopped drinking, how somatic yoga has helped enormously with anxiety and finding hobbies that we love. So grab a cuppa and let’s chat.
On this weeks pod we talk about social anxiety which for a lot of us is a key factor in using alcohol to change our emotional state, and in the end adding fuel to the fire. We discuss what we do to feel calmer when we’re out being social and some techniques that may help. So grab a cuppa and let’s chat. Love Yourself sober workshops : Speak for Yourself Sober with Wanda Canton @wandacanton - 13th of July & Create Yourself Sober with Sharon Watlers aka @london_artist1 -19th of October. More details and tickets soon... Resources mentioned: Amanda Grace, artists retreat. https://www.amandagraceart.com/ @amandajgrace Insta. Jolene Park http://www.healthydiscoveries.com/ Veronica Valli - Tapping https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4cuFgehqjbM Sarah Bilik Counselling - @abovethepinkcloud
This week we talk about how to get through when life gets tough, we talk motherhood and the stress that that can bring, and how to protect sobriety through those tough times. Trying to be gentle with ourselves, keeping close to our values, to nurture ourselves. Grab a cuppa, wrap yourself in a blanket and join us for a chat x Tara Brach - Rain of self compassion https://www.tarabrach.com/meditation-the-rain-of-self-compassion/ How to talk so kids listen and listen so kids will talk https://www.amazon.com/How-Talk-Kids-Will-Listen-ebook/dp/B005GG0MXI Jenn James https://jennjamescoaching.com/ Lucy Rocca https://therestishistory.co/our-blog/2019/2/8/i-didnt-find-god-i-found-my-gut Tammi Salas https://www.tammisalas.com/ Vagal response - https://blog.bulletproof.com/vagus-nerve-vagal-response/ Jolene Park http://www.healthydiscoveries.com/about/ Our workshop : Love Sober Life - Nurture Yourself Sober with Jolene Park https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/love-sober-life-nurture-yourself-sober-with-jolene-park-tickets-55520951661?fbclid=IwAR29S8x85UQSiPQXLQVGPzQ4XQ99SKz1xDhqq55b7jEejkbgQMvo15297lo https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=ZNkXQYxfIlQ
Jolene Park is a functional nutritionist, health coach and TEDx speaker. Since founding her consulting company, Healthy Discoveries® in 2001 and she has worked as a corporate wellness consultant, speaker and workshop facilitator. Jolene coaches high achieving professionals who want to eliminate alcohol and sugar cravings and reduce their anxiety by using real food, high-quality nutrients and cutting-edge mind/body techniques. In her TEDx talk about “Gray Area Drinking” she shares her personal alcohol and anxiety story and explains the importance of replenishing our neurotransmitters and nourishing our nervous systems in a comprehensive and consistent way. Following the great impact of her TEDx talk and private coaching, Jolene founded GrayAreaDrinkers.com. This online hub is a place for gray area drinkers to get support, for former gray area drinkers to unite and for coaches to learn Jolene’s exclusive techniques. -- Jolene's website: http://www.healthydiscoveries.com/ Join Jolene's community of Gray Area Drinkers: https://healthydiscoveries.mykajabi.com/p/membership https://grayareadrinkers.com/ Become a Gray Area Drinking Recovery Coach: https://healthydiscoveries.mykajabi.com/p/recovery-coach-training Listen to Jolene's podcast, The Edit Podcast: http://www.healthydiscoveries.com/category/podcast/ Follow Jolene on Instagram @healthy_discoveries: https://www.instagram.com/healthy_discoveries/?hl=en Jolene's TEDx Talk: http://www.healthydiscoveries.com/tedx-talk/ -- Timeline: [00:08:36] Jolene joins the podcast [00:09:18] Jolene works 1:1 with high achieving/professional women who are rethinking their relationship with alcohol. How did she get here? [00:17:29] Why Jolene decided to quit alcohol for good [00:22:06] Jolene's thoughts on whether we should cut down or quit alcohol [00:26:06] What happens inside our bodies when we consume sugar and alcohol [00:42:00] Natural remedies to regulate anxiety [00:49:12] Strategies for when you might feel restricted, especially if you come from a background of disordered eating [00:57:32] Tips/thoughts on navigating through an alcohol-free life -- Mentions: The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma by Bessel van der Kolk https://www.amazon.com/Body-Keeps-Score-Healing-Trauma/dp/0143127748 Eating in the Light of the Moon by Anita Johnston https://www.amazon.com/Eating-Light-Moon-Relationship-Storytelling-ebook/dp/B003Z9JMUW/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1546952631&sr=1-1&keywords=eating+in+the+light+of+the+moon+by+anita+a.+johnston Taming Your Outer Child: A Revolutionary Program to Overcome Self-Defeating Patterns by Susan Anderson https://www.amazon.com/Taming-Your-Outer-Child-Self-Sabotage-ebook/dp/B00KC6FDLS/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1546952652&sr=1-1&keywords=taming+your+outer+child -- Apply to Ashley's 6-month mastermind, the Heart Biz Mastermind: ashley638.typeform.com/to/SI3xHS Book a FREE discovery call with Ashley: app.acuityscheduling.com/schedule.php…Type=8022769 Sign up for Ashley’s Newsletter: app.convertkit.com/landing_pages/163213?v=6 Ashley’s website: www.ashleypardo.com Follow Ashley on social @ashleykpardo Subscribe to Ashley’s YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/user/ashleykathrynpardo
Today we talk about different types of drinkers: Trying to find the right language to describe the timeline of a drinker. Did we all start out as Normies? What happens over time, how did we as drinkers change? Are some people in denial? Or is that a negative/unhelpful term? How best can we describe drinkers? Resources mentioned: Soberistas - www.soberistas.com Jack Trimpey, Rational Recovery - https://rational.org/index.php?id=1 Club Soda - https://joinclubsoda.co.uk/ AA - https://www.aa.org/ Addaction - https://www.addaction.org.uk/ Allen Carr - https://www.allencarr.com/ Jolene Park, Healthy Discoveries - http://www.healthydiscoveries.com/ Catherine Gray, The Unexpected Joy of being Sober - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Unexpected-Joy-Being-Sober-alcohol-free/dp/1912023385 The Unruffled Podcast - Holly Whitaker https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/episode-81-holly-whitaker/id1224985403?i=1000422323648&mt=2 Alcohol Concern - https://www.alcoholconcern.org.uk/ (Apologies for all the swears)
Wellness is not just about eating health food and exercising, Jolene Park tells the ABA Journal’s Stephanie Francis Ward in this episode of Asked Answered. It’s also getting enough time to relax, getting enough sleep and not being stressed out about your job or finances–and employers can play a big role in all of those things. Park is the founder of Healthy Discoveries, a corporate wellness company. She says that something to consider when creating employee wellness programs is that people respond more positively when their actions make them feel better, as opposed to when they’re scared into eating better or working out more. A big part of wellness is being kind to yourself, and managers can go a long way in helping the people they supervise recognize that people need to recharge; everything is not always going to be perfect; and making a mistake is not the end of the world.
Wellness is not just about eating health food and exercising, Jolene Park tells the ABA Journal’s Stephanie Francis Ward in this episode of Asked Answered. It’s also getting enough time to relax, getting enough sleep and not being stressed out about your job or finances–and employers can play a big role in all of those things. Park is the founder of Healthy Discoveries, a corporate wellness company. She says that something to consider when creating employee wellness programs is that people respond more positively when their actions make them feel better, as opposed to when they’re scared into eating better or working out more. A big part of wellness is being kind to yourself, and managers can go a long way in helping the people they supervise recognize that people need to recharge; everything is not always going to be perfect; and making a mistake is not the end of the world.
In this episode, Tammi and Sondra talk to Jolene Park. Jolene works as a functional nutritionist and health coach through her company, Healthy Discoveries, and also co-hosts her own podcast, Editing Our Drinking & Our Lives. The ladies dive deep into the physiological reasons behind why we drink and the healthy ways we can generate those same biochemicals when we quit drinking and spoiler alert: creativity is a big one. We say this a lot, but you may want to have a pen and paper handy because this one is full of helpful information (think #midlifesolution). Jolene knows her stuff. If you want to reap even more of the benefits of Jolene's work, she can be found at http://www.healthydiscoveries.com. This week Jolene shares three items from her Unruffled Toolbox: (1) The Five Senses Practice; (2) Knitting; and (3) Baths!
Jolene Park is a functional nutritionist and health coach who works with purpose-driven companies and individuals. She is also one of the Certified This Naked Mind Coaches. Jolene recently did a TED Talk on gray area drinking. Jolene shares her own personal story with Annie and provides some amazing tips on supporting our body’s psychology when we stop drinking. Episode Links: Jolene’s Website Jolene’s TED Talk Certified This Naked Mind Coaches
Welcome to Episode 22! This episode features writer, podcast host and nutritional therapist Jolene Park. Jolene helps individuals overcome anxiety and rebuild their health with real food, high-quality nutrients and cutting-edge mind/body techniques. Jolene is a functional nutritionist, health coach and trauma informed yoga teacher. She is also the co-host of “Edit Podcast: Editing Our Drinking & Our Lives.” In 2001 she founded Healthy Discoveries — a corporate wellness training company. She works with purpose driven companies who strive to create a positive impact on their employees and business. She also coaches business professionals and healthcare providers who are at risk for compassion fatigue, burnout and gray area drinking. Jolene’s interest in a comprehensive approach to recovery began when she stopped using alcohol as a way to self-medicate her own anxiety. Jolene shares empowering tools for living an alcohol-free life. Her specialty is in depleted neurotransmitter and nutrient support, fight-flight-freeze stress responses, neuroplasticity tools, emotional resiliency techniques, habit change and mindfulness. Here are my favorite gems from this weeks episode: You don't need to have create disasters to have a problem with drinking. You can take an "early exit" from the path of alcohol to create a better life Stable blood sugar is a major key in creating a healthy stress response Proteins & Fats feed the brain and are essential for helping eliminate depression, cravings, mood issues, and symptoms of anxiety Somatic therapy gives us the tools to regulate our nervous system Grounding, centering and orienting will help us to release stress and link into the moment What the polyvagal nerve is and how we can stimulate it Check me on Facebook! http://www.facebook.com/dontfreakoutpodcast Follow me on Instagram http://www.instagram.com/dontfreakoutpodcast Get my FREE guide for how to stop freaking out: http://www.dontfreakoutpodcast.com
On the heels of the She Recovers conference in NYC, where 500 women in recovery gathered to commune and listen to speakers Glennon Doyle Melton, Gabby Bernstein, Elizabeth Vargas, Marianne Williamson, Nikki Myers, Elena Brower, Ann Dowsett Johnston, and many bloggers, Tammi and Sondra recap the event (Tammi attended, Sondra watched via livestream). Details of the event become a perfect segue to talking about the significance of writing, journaling or blogging in recovery. The ladies mention several blogs that helped them in early recovery (Aidan Donnelly Rowley's, Laura McKowen's, Jean McCarthy's Unpickled and Ellie's One Crafty Mother) but emphasize using your writing as a way to process, make connections and experience the power of Me Too. The ladies share their top three tools in their recovery-slash-creativity toolboxes for the week: Sondra's 3 fave things: The Law of Divine Compensation: On Work, Money and Miracles by Marianne Williamson, added hula hooping to her movement toolbox and Jolene Park's Healthy Discoveries website. Tammi's 3 fave things: Bach's Rescue Remedy products, essential oils for anxiety relief and her Ray of Light Interview Series featuring women recovering out loud, as well as her 24-month long Sobriety Milestone Series - both of which can be found on her blog at www.tammisalas.com.
Happy Holidaze! Dazed indeed because the holiday season can be one of the toughest for those of us taking the One Year No Beer challenge. Especially if you have birthdays coming up around this time too. Ruari is celebrating his third alcohol-free birthday, and the podcast we have lined up for today is all about prepping yourself and your body for the upcoming holiday party lineup. Our guest is Jolene Park, a nutrition and health coach with Healthy Discoveries, who combines healthy living with nutritional science in order to help people recover from the hangover and replenish their bodies as they wean themselves off alcohol. “Why are we using sugar in alcohol in the first place?” As anyone who drinks knows, sugar and alcohol take a hell of a toll on your body. Hangovers are no fun, and that’s because both sugar and alcohol deplete your body of the nutrients it desperately needs to heal and function. Proteins, carbs, and fats are the three things your body needs to survive, and drinking will tear away these valuable nutrients in one night. Jolene shares how you can eat the right foodstuffs in order to help your body bounce back. “You want to eat within 30 to 60 minutes of waking up in the morning,” she says. And you want to eat good proteins, like eggs or tofu, combined with the healthy carbs found in fresh veggies and a little bit of the good fats you can get from avocados or coconut oil. All of the nutrients found in these good foods rebuild your brain and help calm your intestinal tract so you can speed up your recovery and reduce your cravings for sugar and/or alcohol later on in the day. Rebuilding your body after alcohol. If you’re on the road to quit drinking, Jolene recommends getting back on a whole food diet. Because the gut and the brain are super connected, your goal is to reduce the stress the booze has on your stomach and intestines in order to give your brain and chance to heal. You can’t skip meals, you can’t start your day off with coffee, tea, and sugar, and you want to find healthy supplements that can fill the gaps you might miss. Drinking can exacerbate pre-existing conditions, like lactose intolerance and IBS, and it will be up to you to make sure you are eating right and eating well in order to give you and your body the best chance at quitting drinking and rebuilding your body. LINKS & RESOURCESOYNB Website: https://www.oneyearnobeer.com/ OYNB Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/Oneyearnobeer/ OYNB Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/199505820380513/ OYNB Twitter: https://twitter.com/oynbuk/OYNB Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oneyearnobeer/ JOLENE’S RESOURCESGet coaching with Jolene!Jolene’s Website: Healthy DiscoveriesJolene’s Blog: http://www.healthydiscoveries.com/blog/Jolene’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HealthyDiscoveriesWithJolenePark/
In this episode, the girls talk to Jolene Park, a functional nutritionist, and an expert in the craving brain. They talk about the intricate connections between anxiety, depression, trauma, nutrition, addiction, relationships and more. Jolene is a goldmine of experience and resources, and she's got a compelling personal story to back it up. What's more, Jolene's personal story is common, but not often heard: successful woman approaching middle-age comes to terms with closing the window on her idealized image of a family and marriage, and, in the process, develops an unhealthy but 'high-bottom' relationship with alcohol. In the discussion, she bravely shares her story for the first time in a public way. Jolene is the Founder of Healthy Discoveries, where she coaches companies and individuals develop a more complete view of well-being. More about Jolene and Health Discoveries here: http://www.healthydiscoveries.com
Audio It's time again for a superb show for you in Episode 55 of Low-Carb Conversations with Jimmy Moore & Friends with your co-hosts Jimmy Moore and Mindy Noxon Iannotti who makes a BIG announcement during the show today. Don't miss it because the news impacts the future of this podcast. This listener-supported podcast is so satisfying bringing you some of the most interesting people talking about the most current health headlines of the day. What a pleasure it is to create this cutting-edge show to get the low-carb angle and response to what's out there in the mainstream. If you are enjoying what you hear on this podcast and want to help us stay on the air, then consider of any amount towards doing that. It's been a true privilege to bring you this podcast and we are incredibly grateful for all of your wonderful love and support for us. THANK YOU for keeping the message of the healthy low-carb lifestyle alive! Today we have and talking about several interesting health headlines, including that recent egg yolks is as bad as cigarettes study, fair-inspired Krispy Kreme doughnuts, new obesity rates from the Centers For Disease Control, obesity education for kids, running a marathon eating fat and local advocacy for animal foods. We have some great opinion-makers with us today in Keri, Jolene, Mindy and I talking about these topics and some super low-carb recipes. So pull up a chair, grab a cup of coffee and let's talk about it! "LOW-CARB CONVERSATIONS" PODCAST IS LISTENER-SUPPORTED!: to donate and keep this show going! THANK YOU for your support! LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE 55- We're now LISTENER-SUPPORTED: - - - - - by Bill Barrington- - - - - - Recipe From Keri Rogers: Ingredients: 1 lb. grass-fed beef skirt steak Marinade: Fresh Ginger, grated Braggs Liquid Aminos or Coconut Aminos* Pepper Sea Salt Directions: 1. Sprinkle salt and pepper over the skirt steak. Rub fresh ginger and aminos over both sides of the steak. 2. Place covered in the refrigerator to marinate over night. 3. Preheat oven to 250 degrees Fahrenheit. Heat a medium sized skillet over medium heat. Once pan is hot, sear the meat for 1-2 minutes per side. Place in a baking dish. 4. Bake for 3 hours. Cool in the refrigerator. Recipe by Nutritionist Keri Rogers and Chef Tanner Marino.