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A single lifelong career is no longer the norm. UBC Sauder School of Business Organizational Behaviour and Human Resources assistant professor Sima Sajjadiani and ICF-certified career and leadership coach Sophia Koklieff join the program to talk about why the new normal is to seek a new career in midlife.
I'm thrilled to welcome back a previous guest today! Her first appearance was in Episode 232 back in 2020. She helps us get clear on something that confuses many coaches: What does it mean to be “trauma-informed,” and why does it matter for every single one of our clients? We will uncover the neuroscience, practical moves, and the truth about what's happening in the nervous systems of the people we coach. We take a closer look at the difference between coaching and therapy, why there is always an overlap, and where the dividing line lies between big emotions, coaching, and therapy. Join us!Dr. Kemia Sarrah, “Dr. K”, is an internist, educator, physician, and leadership coach. Her subspecialty is a focus on leadership and coaching in and beyond severe burnout, toxic stress, and trauma. She is the founder and CEO of Lodestar, a professional coaching and consulting firm that utilizes a 360-degree trauma-aware container for coaching, coach training, leadership training, and Justice, Equity, Diversity & Inclusion facilitation. Her medical degree and Master of Public Health are from the University of Utah School of Medicine, and she currently serves as an Adjunct Assistant Professor at Southern Illinois University School of Medicine in the Office of Equity, Diversity & Inclusion. Dr. K is a gifted storyteller and sought-after speaker with a deeply intuitive communication style, and her trademarked coaching paradigm has a lens focused on the secondary trauma that is part of daily life for high-achieving, hard-driving, and highly skilled professionals across various industries. Blending extensive experience with balance, humor, and endless empathy, Dr. K has helped countless physicians and professionals rediscover their professional pride, joy, and internal balance. She lives with her physician-husband on a small, working farm in Central Illinois, where they are raising four sons and too many farm critters to count.Show Highlights:The question at the crux of it all: How can coaching and trauma co-exist in the same work?All Lodestar programs are dual-accredited by the ICF and the ACCME, meeting the rigorous standards for both coaching and medical education.Understanding the overlaps and distinctions between coaching and therapyPositioning yourself as a coach who is trauma-informed and trauma-responsive, being a “skilled holder” of what the client brings into the conversationLaying the foundation of the coach/client relationship in the beginningTrauma: more than events in time, but exposure over time (“The dose makes the poison.”)Understanding stress (not always a bad thing!), its effects, like loneliness and uncertainty, and long-term stress exposureThe neuroscience of the “unsafe” brain: It cannot update its predictions, learns the wrong things, and cannot differentiate between predator threats and social threats.Recognizing the path forward with our clients: The stories our nervous system tells follow the state of our nervous system as a whole.“We are all the walking wounded. What you are experiencing is very real.”The key message from Dr. K: “Coaches are uniquely pre-set to do this exceedingly well. The beauty of this skillset is that it's rooted in the similarities of our nervous system; these skills are universally teachable, learnable, and applicable.”Resources:Connect with Dr. Kemia SarrafWebsite, Facebook, and SCS Episode 232Connect with MegExplore the STaR Coach Show Mentor Program. We are enrolling NOW for this fall!Join the STaR Coach Community. Become a member today!Subscribe to the STaR Coach Show YouTube Channel!Explore over 480 past episodes and other helpful resources at www.STaRcoachshow.com.Mentioned in this episode:Join the Star Coach Masterclass!Learn the 6 C's to your Coaching Masterplan.
Everything Life Coaching: The Positive Psychology and Science Behind Coaching
In this episode, Noelle Cordeaux sits down with Tobias Weghorn — co-founder of metaFox and host of the Making of a Coach podcast — to unpack emotional granularity: the skill of moving from "I feel like sh*t" to "I feel lonely, because my need for connection isn't met," and why that shift is where real change begins. Coming from an engineering background and grounded in systemic NLP, mindfulness, and strengths psychology, Tobi shows how metaFox's picture and emotion cards give coaches a low-friction way to help clients go deep, fast. In this episode, you'll learn: Why a bigger emotional vocabulary makes feelings actionable The two levels of EQ: having the words, and feeling it in your body The "third object effect"... why clients reveal more when they talk about an image instead of themselves What to reach for when a client keeps saying "I don't know" Want to try the tools? Use code LUMIA20 for 20% off both physical card sets at metaFox.eu and Pro subscriptions at metaFox.online. Everything Life Coaching is brought to you by Lumia and our ICF-accredited life coach trainin -- at Lumia, we train and certify impact-driven coaches, making sure they've got all they need to build a business they love and transform lives, on their terms. Become a life coach, and make a bigger impact on the world around you! Schedule a call with us today to discuss your future as a coach. Music in this episode is by Cody Martin, used under a creative commons license. The Everything Life Coaching Podcast is Produced and Audio Engineered by Amanda Meyncke.
Jessica talks with Talia Sherman, recent grad & podcast creator and host.Talia Sherman just graduated from Brown University (congrats!), where she studied Linguistics and English with honors. She was an undergraduate fellow at the Cogut Institute for the Humanities. In the spring of her senior year of high school, she founded Tomayto Tomahto, an interview based podcast on language. Streamed in over 90 countries and showcasing the voices of professors from many different universities, Tomayto Tomahto digs into interdisciplinary research, cutting-edge theoretical questions, and sometimes linguistics journalism. Notable guests include Steven Pinker, Emily M. Bender, Jonathan Rosa, and John DeNero. When not podcasting, reading literary theory, or doing economics research, Talia can be found backpacking or training Brown students to lead backpacking trips.Tomayto Tomahto: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/talia-sherman Talia's website: https://www.taliasherman.com/~About The Ampersand Manifesto:What happens when you refuse to choose just one path? On The Ampersand Manifesto, host Jessica Wan sits down with “the most interesting people at the dinner party” – those who have made their mark in two or more seemingly different worlds. Through candid conversations, we explore what it takes to navigate multiple callings, find the connection points between them, and redefine success on our own terms. Together, we're co-creating The Ampersand Manifesto: principles for leading a multi-passionate life.~About your host, Jessica Wan:Executive Coach | Classical Singer | Former Marketing Leader & Tech ExecutiveJessica helps founders and leaders make the invisible visible. With 20+ years of experience scaling brands like Apple, Smule, and the San Francisco Opera, and as an ICF-certified executive coach, she provides the clarity and strategy needed to lead bravely and find fulfillment in a multi-passionate life.Work with Jessica: Book a Free Intro CallJoin The Cohort: An Ampersand Community for Dual-Career ProfessionalsFollow the Journey: @ampersandmanifestoConnect: Jessica's LinkedInListen: Singing Excerpts~CreditsCo-produced and hosted by Jessica WanCo-produced, edited, sound design, and original music by Carlos Schmitt
Hormone therapy after breast cancer is one of the most nuanced and emotionally charged conversations in women's health.For decades, many women have been told the answer is simply: no.No discussion.No nuance.No consideration of quality of life, sexual health, bone health, brain health, or the individual woman sitting in the exam room.But what does the research actually say?In this episode of Pleasure in the Pause, I welcome back Dr. Susan Hardwick-Smith, board-certified gynecologist and certified menopause practitioner, for a grounded, evidence-informed conversation about hormone therapy after breast cancer.This is not a conversation about ignoring risk.It is a conversation about understanding risk clearly, asking better questions, and making informed decisions in partnership with your physician.About our guest: Dr. Susan Hardwick-Smith is a Board-Certified Gynecologist and certified menopause practitioner specializing in women's midlife wellness, hormone optimization and sexual wellness. She is the founder of Complete Midlife Wellness Center in Houston, TX, and the best-selling author of "Sexually Woke- Awaken the Secrets to Your Best Sex Life in Midlife and Beyond." She also hosts the popular podcast "Empowering Midlife Wellness." Dr. Susan is the recipient of the Texas Super Doctor award over a dozen times, as well a multiple time recipient of H-Texas magazine's Top Doctor and Top Doctor for Women awards. She also has been chosen as one of Houston's "3 best rated" gynecologists several consecutive years. Dr. Susan is also an ICF certified life and leadership coach, multiple time marathoner and Ironman triathlete, and mother of 3 teenagers. Highlights from our discussion include:What the Women's Health Initiative actually found — and why the headlines created so much confusionWhy breast cancer type matters when discussing hormonesWhat the research shows about hormone therapy and breast cancer recurrenceWhy some women on aromatase inhibitors may still be able to discuss options like progesterone, testosterone, and vaginal estrogen with their doctorHow to prepare for a more informed conversation with your physicianWhy collaborative decision-making matters in women's healthcareThe importance of considering quality of life, sexual health, bones, heart, and brain health — not just risk My hope is that this episode helps you feel more informed, more empowered, and more confident asking questions about your own body and care. If you're seeking to reclaim your pleasure and vitality, join Gabriella atwww.pleasureinthepause.com for this enlightening journey into the heart of female pleasure and empowerment.Resources:Dr. Susan Hardwick Smith: https://drsusan.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drsusanofficial/ Bluming review article in Cancer journal (2022): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35594465/ Menopause Society consensus paper (January 2026): https://www.imsociety.org/statements/position-papers-and-consensus-statements/ Hormone Replacement Therapy After Breast Cancer: It Is Time Avrum Z. Bluming, MD LINK - https://bit.ly/4st0uji Menopausal Hormone Therapy for Breast Cancer Patients: What Is the Current Evidence? LINK - https://bit.ly/41leKytAmerican Urological Association Guidelines on GSM 2025 https://www.auanet.org/guidelines-and-quality/guidelines/genitourinary-syndrome-of-menopauseCONNECT WITH GABRIELLA ESPINOSA:InstagramLinkedInWork with Gabriella! Full episodes on YouTube.The information shared on Pleasure in the Pause is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Always consult your healthcare provider before making any decisions about your health or treatment. The views expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of the host or Pleasure in the Pause.
Ve stínu událostí poslední doby si mnozí kladou otázku, co přinese budoucnost a zda se blíží konec. Když svět působí nejistě a nestabilně, roste strach i snaha odhadnout, kdy vše skončí. Bible nás však nevede k panice ani k neustálým spekulacím, ale k věrnému životu tady a teď. V sérii Život v posledních dnech se podíváme na to, jak žít v úctě k Bohu, s pokojem uprostřed nejistoty a se zaměřením na to, co má skutečnou hodnotu. ICF Praha (Mezinárodní křesťanské společenství) je moderní křesťanská církev postavená na biblických základech, která je dynamická, současná a je blízko lidem. ICF Praha vedou pastoři Daniel a Kristýna Skokanovi. Buďte s námi v Kontaktu Web: https://www.icf-praha.cz/ Instagram: / icfpraha Facebook: / icfpraha TikTok / icfpraha Každou neděli v 10:00 probíhají veřejné bohoslužby (celebrations) v Kostele na lodi, Praha 7 - Holešovice Nejste z Prahy? Najděte ICF ve vašem okolí: https://icf.church/locations #icf #cirkev #celebration #zivotvposlednichdnech
Some key points:Interrupting or jumping in is a skill that is acknowledged in the ICF Core Competencies and ICF 37 Markers.Use language and principles that work for you and makes you want to jump in.Practice and develop your intuition on when to jump in.Use permission or direct communication to jump in.Keep reflecting on your own experience using your coaching, mentorship or coach supervision to develop this skill.If you want to coach, mentor or do coach supervision with me, reach out to info@holisticcoachtraininginstitute.comAbout Beverly:Beverly Sartain is the President of the Holistic Coach Training Institute, where she trains coaches on coaching skills and a holistic approach. The Holistic Coach Certification Programs are ICF Level 1 and Level 2 accredited that focuses on a holistic approach to coaching. We see clients as whole, complete and resourceful to create creative solutions to their challenges and dreams. During her ten-year career in nonprofits, she managed and developed domestic violence and co-occurring residential programs. Beverly is a Certified Addictions Professional. She has her PCC (Professional Certified Coach) from the ICF and loves developing human beings through coaching.Connect with HCTI:Sign-up for Holistic Coach Newsletter to get coaching skill and coaching business inspiration here.Sign-up for a Discovery Call here so you can join our Holistic Coach Certification Program or receive coaching.Website: https://holisticcoachtraininginstitute.com/Find transcription here.
Jessica talks with Karin K. Jensen, writer, journalist, dancer, & dance instructor.Karin K. Jensen is a local news writer for the Alameda Post, where she covers local government and book reviews, and is the author of The Strength of Water, an Asian American Coming-of-Age Memoir, which received a coveted starred review from Kirkus and appeared on the annual Kirkus List of Top 100 Indie Books. It also won awards from The BookFest, International Book Awards, and the San Francisco Book Festival in 2024. She has written for AsAm News and NewsBreak, winning NewsBreak editorial awards on the topics of #StopAsianHate and #AAPI Voices. For her work, Authority Magazine named her a Social Impact Author.Karin makes her home in sunny Alameda, California, where she also enjoys teaching at the Alameda Ballet Academy and performing historical dances with the Period Events and Entertainments Recreation Society (PEERS).Follow Karin's work at Karinkjensen.blog and on Instagram @karinkjensen~About The Ampersand Manifesto:What happens when you refuse to choose just one path? On The Ampersand Manifesto, host Jessica Wan sits down with “the most interesting people at the dinner party” – those who have made their mark in two or more seemingly different worlds. Through candid conversations, we explore what it takes to navigate multiple callings, find the connection points between them, and redefine success on our own terms. Together, we're co-creating The Ampersand Manifesto: principles for leading a multi-passionate life.~About your host, Jessica Wan:Executive Coach | Classical Singer | Former Marketing Leader & Tech ExecutiveJessica helps founders and leaders make the invisible visible. With 20+ years of experience scaling brands like Apple, Smule, and the San Francisco Opera, and as an ICF-certified executive coach, she provides the clarity and strategy needed to lead bravely and find fulfillment in a multi-passionate life.Work with Jessica: Book a Free Intro CallJoin The Cohort: An Ampersand Community for Dual-Career ProfessionalsFollow the Journey: @ampersandmanifestoConnect: Jessica's LinkedInListen: Singing Excerpts~CreditsCo-produced and hosted by Jessica WanCo-produced, edited, sound design, and original music by Carlos Schmitt
On December 5, 2022, researchers at the National Ignition Facility at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory achieved a landmark breakthrough in Inertial Confinement Fusion (ICF), producing an energy output that exceeded the laser input for the first time. The success of an ICF experiment hinges on multi-stage lapping and polishing of fuel capsule shells to nanometer-scale finish and devoid of major surface defects. This talk presents our work with LLNL on assuring surface quality of the fuel capsule shells. Rare surface defects, such as deep pits, can severely degrade ICF performance. Exhaustive inspection across multiple finishing stages to detect these defects is both cost- and time-prohibitive. Conventional scalar surface quality quantifiers fail to capture the manifestation of rare surface pits. We investigated novel inspection strategies that substantially reduce measurement burden while retaining confidence in defect-risk estimation. Here, we impose a multivariate probabilistic bound on pit distribution estimation error to determine the minimal number of surface scans needed to guarantee a specified confidence level. This enables reliable assessment of deep pit risk using approximately 5 – 6 scans (a 5- to 10-fold reduction), thereby substantially reducing the inspection time per shell at each finishing stage. These challenges also motivate the need to move beyond reactive, post-process inspection toward proactive, process monitoring methods that can detect and mitigate the process anomalies that lead to these defects. In this context, we leverage generative machine learning methods conditioned on polishing process parameters combined with shell tracking to identify deviations from expected motion patterns that may lead to surface defects. We also introduce a deep learning model that can track the evolution of pit populations across the polishing stages, capturing rare-event manifestations that scalar surface quantifiers miss. Predictive insights from these models inform possible triaging of at-risk parts and more informed process planning decisions. Taken together, these contributions illustrate how integrating inspection efficiency, process understanding, and predictive decision support can advance manufacturing quality control in settings where rare anomalies and high-consequence requirements demand more than conventional approaches. PRESENTERS: Satish Bukkapatnam, PhD Regents Professor, Sugar and Mike Barnes Department Head Chair, Industrial & Systems Engineering Texas A&M University Shashank Galla Graduate Research Assistant, Texas A&M Engineering Experiment Station (TEES) Texas A&M University Presented by SME Technical Activities Visit https://advancedmanufacturing.org/webinars for more webinars and an interactive experience with visuals.
Send us Fan MailThe fastest way to change a coaching conversation isn't a new tool it's helping someone see they have options. I'm joined by executive coach, educator, and author Jenn Chloupek to talk about the power of choice and the ABC framework she built to make transformation feel clear, human, and repeatable: Awareness, Behaviors, Connections. If you coach leaders, build a coaching culture, or simply want better conversations, this one gives you a practical structure you can use immediately. We dig into what “awareness” really means beyond surface insight: identity, purpose, strengths, blind spots, and the internal driver that quietly runs your day. Jen explains how that driver can be both your superpower and your kryptonite, and why stress often shows up when we act like we don't have a choice. From there, we move into behavior change the small shifts in how we listen, speak, decide, and lead that turn insight into momentum. Jenn shares a powerful real-world story from a global program with women engineers, where participants named internal barriers and then watched those barriers dissolve through structured reflection and empowered choice. We also separate courage from confidence, and explore what it looks like to “do it scared” in leadership and in business. Along the way, you'll hear one of Jenn's favorite coaching questions, why ABC aligns well with ICF core competencies, and how connection becomes the real outcome of the work. If you enjoyed this conversation, subscribe, share it with a coach or leader who needs it, and leave a review so more people can find Beyond the Page.Watch the full interview by clicking here. Find the full article here.Learn more about Jenn here.If you are interested in the ABC Coaching Framework, please email Jenn at jenn@chloupekconsultingservices.com and she will send it to you. Grab your free issue of choice Magazine here - https://choice-online.com/
Divorce is not the only experience that can completely reshape a woman's identity. Career shifts, children leaving home, relocation, loss, and major life changes can all create moments where women stop and ask themselves a difficult question: Who am I now?In this episode of The D Shift, Mardi Winder sits down with Shannon McGorry for a thoughtful conversation about transformation, self-discovery, and what it means to intentionally create a life that reflects who you are in this current chapter.Through her experience navigating divorce while raising two young daughters, Shannon shares how many women unintentionally lose touch with themselves by constantly adapting to the needs and expectations of others. She discusses how easy it becomes to define identity through roles such as wife, mother, caregiver, or professional, while never truly exploring what matters most to her personally.The conversation explores why so many women settle for being “fine” even when they know something beneath the surface feels misaligned. Shannon explains how identifying personal values lays the foundation for making better decisions, creating healthier habits, and building a more intentional life.Shannon breaks down her Activate Your Female Genius framework, which helps women reconnect with their identity, strengthen self-leadership, and uncover the unique strengths and gifts that often get buried during difficult life transitions. Rather than approaching change as something to fear, Shannon encourages women to see these moments as opportunities to redefine themselves with greater clarity and purpose.Shannon shares how:• Many women unconsciously shape-shift into roles and expectations that no longer align with who they are• “Fine” can become a way of settling instead of honestly addressing what feels off• Personal values can change throughout different stages of life and deserve regular reflection• Living out of alignment with core values often creates stress, resentment, and emotional exhaustion• Self-awareness and intentional habits help women create a stronger sense of direction after divorce or transitionAbout the Guest:Shannon McGorry is the creator of Activate Your Female Genius®, a transformative framework that blends clarity-building, habit transformation, and actionable strategy to help women stop settling for “fine” and instead create an updated strategy for their current chapter of life. A PCC-level coach accredited by the ICF, Shannon is the founder and chief strategist of Love, Strength, and Grace, a women's empowerment coaching firm offering 1:1 coaching, keynote speaking, and professional development workshops. Shannon also co-founded Your Strategy Reset™; a brand of in-person, customized, boutique women's leadership experiences. She combines professional expertise with lived experience to empower women as they navigate meaningful change with an updated strategy.For Shannon's gift: https://www.lovestrengthandgrace.com/eventsTo connect with Shannon: Website: www.lovestrengthandgrace.com Website: www.yourstrategyreset.com Instagram:lovestrengthandgrace LinkedIn: Your Strategy Reset | LinkedInAbout the HostMardi Winder is a Strategic Divorce Consultant and High-Conflict Divorce Coach who helps high-achieving individuals navigate divorce with clarity, confidence, and control. Drawing on more than 30 years of experience in mediation, divorce coaching and conflict resolution, she supports clients in making smart decisions while reducing emotional and financial fallout, particularly in high-conflict, high-asset and complex divorces. Mardi is the founder of Positive Communication Systems, LLC, and the Strategic Divorce Directory, LLC.For Mardi's gift: The Resilience Building Blueprint: A 28-Day Journey To A Stronger You https://www.divorcecoach4women.com/rbbConnect with Mardi on Social Media:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/Divorcecoach4womenLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mardiwinderadams/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/divorcecoach4women/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@divorcecoach4womenThanks for Listening!Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page.Do you have feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below!Subscribe to the PodcastIf you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts. You can also subscribe in your favorite podcast app.Leave an Apple Podcast ReviewRatings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts.
Episode 179: Julian Lighton & his book, Navigating Your Next: Discover the Career You Want and the Path to Get ThereABOUT JULIANJulian Lighton is one of Silicon Valley's leading strategy practitioners and business coaches, helping individuals and organisations navigate what's next. He has more than 30 years' experience advising, hiring and developing talent as a senior operating executive, general manager, consultant and coach. Julian was a Chief Strategy Officer at four, billion-dollar revenue, public companies, a board director, and associate partner for McKinsey and a senior global sales and marketing executive at Fortune 100 companies Hitachi and Cisco. He holds a BA and MA in Law from Oxford University, a Masters-level in Negotiation from Harvard University, and is a Chartered Director by the Royal Institute of Directors. Julian is one of only four hundred coaches worldwide to be recognized as a senior professional coach at the individual and team level by both the ICF and EMCC.CONVERSATION HIGHLIGHTS• Julian's diverse career journey from law to tech to private equity• The role of curiosity in innovation and leadership• How resilience and failure have shaped Julian's career• The importance of focus, discipline, and storytelling in achieving goals• Leadership principles: responsibility, relationship, and service• The shift in corporate culture and leadership in the modern era• Practical advice for career navigation and self-actualization• Self-care, self-awareness, and balancing work with healthKey characteristics of effective leaders and collaboratorsThe MAIN QUESTION for you that comes out of my conversation with Julian is, What do you really take into account and consider when it's time to decide what comes next for you? FIND JULIAN• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julianlighton1/• Website: https://www.julianlighton.com• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/julian.lighton/• LinkedIn - Full Podcast Article:CHAPTERS00:00 - The Book Leads Podcast - Julian Lighton00:58 - Introduction & Bio05:15 - Who are you today? Can you provide more information about your work?08:24 - How did your path into your career look like, and what did it look like up until now?56:03 - How does the work you're doing today reconcile to who you were as a child?58:18 - What do you consider your superpower?01:01:06 - What does leadership mean to you?01:19:09 - Can you introduce us to the book we're discussing?01:39:35 - What's changed in you in the process of writing this book?01:42:25 - What book has inspired you?01:45:48 - What are you up to these days? (A way for guests to share and market their projects and work.)This series has become my Masterclass In Humanity. I'd love for you to join me and see what you take away from these conversations.Learn more about The Book Leads and listen to past episodes:Watch on YouTubeListen on SpotifyListen on Apple PodcastsRead About The Book Leads – Blog PostFor more great content, check out the catalog for my newsletter Last Week's Leadership Lessons, if you haven't already!
Leyla Novini is an entrepreneur and founder of The Creativity Quotient, offering one-on-one and group coaching for creative professionals. As a Creative Life Coach, she empowers passionate individuals to reconnect with their creativity, overcome self-doubt, and design a life that reflects their true artistic spirit. With a blend of intuitive guidance and practical strategy, she helps clients break through blocks and bring their creative visions to life, whether they're changing careers, launching a creative business, or simply craving more inspiration and fulfillment in their work. With an extensive career in the tech industry, she has held roles specializing in marketing, photo editing, and user experience design. Creativity drives the inspiration in her work and has enabled her to navigate successfully throughout her career. She received her MFA in Design and Technology from Parsons School of Design and her Bachelor's degree in Music Business from Hofstra University. In her spare time, Leyla loves to play the clarinet in community wind ensembles and orchestras and take improv classes. Follow her journey: https://leylanovini.com/ instagram: The_Creativity_Quotient ***********Susanne Mueller / www.susannemueller.biz TEDX Talk, May 2022: Running and Life: 5KM Formula for YOUR Successhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT_5Er1cLvY Join Substack: https://substack.com/@susannemuellernyc?Enjoy one coaching session for free if you are a yearly subscriber. 800+ weekly blogs / 500+ podcasts / 1 Ironman Triathlon / 5 half ironman races / 26 marathon races / 4 books / 1 Mt. Kilimanjaro / 1 TEDx Talk
En este episodio de Motivarte hablé con Ana Sena, coach en Valencia y miembro de la ICF, sobre esos momentos en los que la vida parece estar “bien” por fuera… pero algo adentro empieza a hacer ruido.Ese ruido incómodo que aparece cuando tenés muchas cosas resueltas, pero no necesariamente una vida que te entusiasme y aparece esta frase: "tengo todo pero no soy feliz". Cuando empezás a preguntarte si lo que construiste todavía te representa. Cuando algo se quiebra, no para destruirte, sino para despertarte.Con Ana hablamos de transformación, de vínculos, de separación, de creencias que se caen, de nuevas formas de mirar la vida y de las herramientas que pueden ayudarnos a atravesar la incomodidad sin salir corriendo.También hablamos de su historia y de la mía. De renacer. De volver a creer. De animarnos a crear una vida más propia, más honesta, más viva.Ana llegó a mi vida de la mano de Santi, mi coach favorito en el mundo, mi tío y una de esas personas puente que te acercan a otras luminosas.Este episodio tiene mucho contenido de valor, pero sobre todo tiene algo que para mí es aún más importante: una invitación a mirarte con más verdad.Ya disponible en todas las plataformas. Para escuchar cuando sientas que algo en vos está pidiendo cambio.Bienvenida/o a #Motivartepodcast!
About this episode: In this episode of the Wellness Pro Show, Cate Stillman sits down with Carey Peters, Co-Founder of Health Coach Institute (HCI), for the most candid conversation about certifications the wellness industry rarely gets to hear. Carey has spent more than two decades training tens of thousands of coaches across more than 50 countries, building and successfully exiting one of the largest coach training organizations in the world, and now mentoring founders and executives at the highest level of their careers. Her perspective on when a certification is the smartest investment you will ever make, and when it is simply a very expensive form of procrastination, is hard-won, deeply practical, and refreshingly direct. This conversation traces Carey's unlikely journey from working actress to accidental entrepreneur, through the creation of Holistic MBA and then Health Coach Institute, all the way to a multi-million dollar exit in 2023. Along the way she shares the inside story of how HCI scaled rapidly by marrying a powerful coaching methodology with sophisticated lead generation, what happens to a founder's vision when private equity enters the picture, and what she now knows about building something that lasts. For wellness professionals weighing their next investment, whether that is enrolling in a program, creating their own certification, or building a membership-based business model, this episode offers the clearest and most honest framework available for making that decision well. Key Takeaways: The Certification Collecting Trap: Why endless training can become a comfortable and costly form of avoidance, and how to recognize when that is what is happening The Green Light for Creating Your Own Certification: Why the signal to build your own program is not a methodology in your mind but proven results with real clients who are already asking you to teach them what you do Accreditation in Context: What bodies like ICF and the National Board of Health and Wellness Coaches actually mean for your business, and how to evaluate their value specifically for your audience at point of sale Confidence Comes From Doing: Why every coaching school produces graduates who struggle with confidence, and why the only real cure is working with more clients, not enrolling in more programs The Business Model is the Differentiator: Why for practitioners who already have a stack of credentials, a sustainable business model moves the needle far more than another certification ever will What Private Equity Does to a Founder: The honest account of what changes when outside investors or buyers enter a coaching business, and what founders need to know before they take that path Resources and Links: Carey Peters Website: https://careypeters.com Health Coach Institute: https://www.healthcoachinstitute.com Wellness Pro Hotline: https://api.leadconnectorhq.com/widget/bookings/wellness-pro-hotline Wellness Pro Academy: https://wellnesspro.academy Yogahealer: https://www.yogahealer.com About the Guest, Carey Peters: Carey Peters is the Co-Founder of Health Coach Institute, one of the world's leading health and life coach training programs, where she helped train tens of thousands of coaches across more than 50 countries. A Master Health and Life Coach, speaker, and trusted business mentor, Carey spent more than two decades teaching coaches how to deliver real transformation and build sustainable, profitable practices. She now works at the executive level with founders and leaders navigating their next chapter. About the Host, Cate Stillman: Cate Stillman is an Ayurvedic practitioner, author, and founder of Yogahealer and Wellness Pro Academy. For more than two decades she has helped wellness professionals build thriving membership communities rooted in ancient wisdom and innovative structure. She is the author of Body Thrive, Master of You, Uninflamed, and Primal Habits. Wellness Pro Academy: https://wellnesspro.academy Yogahealer: https://www.yogahealer.com Primal Habits: https://amzn.to/3OvfPOx Uninflamed: https://amzn.to/3UUBgJ2 Body Thrive: https://amzn.to/3udNFR0 Master of You: https://amzn.to/3OlfoGn What would shift in your practice if you stopped waiting to feel ready, and started treating your next client session as the only certification that actually matters?
Oil is $100, airline losses are starting to show up, and Spirit's collapse is exposing just how hard it is to run an ultra-low-cost model when low cost has disappeared. Any one of those signals could make buyers cautious. Taken together, they should raise a bigger question: why are buyers inside middle-market aerospace and defense still leaning in? Public aerospace companies are still trading at strong multiples. Strategics still have currency. Private equity is still chasing platforms. Founder-owned businesses with real capabilities are still getting serious attention. Middle-market aerospace may be feeling pressure, but it is not behaving like a fragile market. What makes this part of the industry so unusual is that value is not tied to one clean growth story. Commercial airlines may be exposed to fuel prices. Ultra-low-cost carriers may struggle when “low cost” disappears from the system. But the middle market is full of companies supporting business aviation, defense, engine work, MRO, parts, certifications, and long-standing product lines that remain incredibly hard to replace. This is why buyers are not just chasing growth. They are chasing durability. In a world where many sectors are being disrupted quickly, aerospace and defense still reward businesses that can do difficult, regulated, safety-critical work consistently. In this episode, I sit down with Bill Alderman for our 300th episode of the Aerospace Executive podcast and for Bill's 25th year in the business. In this conversation, we unpack what the market is really telling us right now: where the strength is real, where the risks are starting to show, and why the best buyers in this industry still understand something tourists often miss: that aerospace rewards people who think long term. You'll also learn; Why $100 oil is not an immediate market killer, but could become a serious drag if it stays elevated What airline losses may be signaling, and why Spirit's collapse is not necessarily the canary in the coal mine Why rich public market multiples give aerospace buyers more room to pay attractive prices How business aviation flight hours, fractional ownership, and OEM backlogs are strengthening the aftermarket story Why “capacity,” maintenance demand, and physical capability continue to matter in an AI-disrupted economy What makes aerospace and defense more durable than many other sectors Why carve-outs and spin-offs can unlock focus, energy, and operational performance How companies can become too large and lose the focus that made individual divisions valuable Why brands like Bendix, Slick, and other long-standing product names still carry enormous value in the maintenance hangar What private equity “tourists” often misunderstand about aerospace and defense Why industry knowledge matters when owning companies that support safety-critical systems The difference between making money in aerospace and respecting the long-term responsibility that comes with owning aerospace assets About the Guest William H. Alderman (Bill) is the Founding Partner of Alderman & Company. Bill is an M&A specialist in the middle market of the aerospace and defense industry with over $2 billion in mergers and acquisition-related transactions to his name. Before founding Alderman & Company in 2001, Bill worked for 15 years on Wall Street and in the Aerospace & Defense Industry, principally on M&A transactions in the middle market. His employers included BT Securities, Fieldstone, and General Electric. Bill is a Securities Principal registered with the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (“FINRA”) and has four securities industry licenses (Series 7, 24, 63, and 65). Bill is a commercial pilot and owns and operates a Cirrus SR22. URL Link: https://www.aldermanco.com/ LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/williamalderman/ About Your Host Craig Picken is an Executive Recruiter, writer, speaker, and ICF-trained Executive Coach. He is focused on recruiting senior-level executives in sales and operations across the aviation and aerospace industry. His clients include premier OEMs, aircraft operators, leasing/financial organizations, and Maintenance/Repair/Overhaul (MRO) providers. Since 2008, he has personally concluded more than 400 executive-level searches in a variety of disciplines. Craig is the ONLY industry executive recruiter who has professionally flown airplanes, sold airplanes, and successfully run a P&L in the aviation industry. His professional career started with a passion for airplanes. After eight years' experience as a decorated Naval Flight Officer – with more than 100 combat missions, 2,000 hours of flight time, and 325 aircraft carrier landings – Craig sought challenges in business aviation, where he spent more than 7 years in sales with both Gulfstream Aircraft and Bombardier Business Aircraft. Craig is also a sought-after industry speaker who has presented at Corporate Jet Investor, the International Aviation Women's Association, and the SOCAL Aviation Association.
Chris Holman welcomes Tim Klont, Chief Operating Officer, MSHDA, Lansing, MI. Welcome Tim. Remind the Michigan business community about MSHDA? You're the head of the planning committee for a big event MSHDA is hosting soon. Tell us about it? So, the 2026 Building Michigan Communities Conference (BMCC), features networking, educational sessions, and policy discussions. What's a highlight for this year? We've visited this before, and Cinnaire often plays a big role. Speak about their commitment to community housing? » Visit MBN website: www.michiganbusinessnetwork.com/ » Watch MBN's YouTube: www.youtube.com/@MichiganbusinessnetworkMBN » Like MBN: www.facebook.com/mibiznetwork » Follow MBN: twitter.com/MIBizNetwork/ » MBN Instagram: www.instagram.com/mibiznetwork/ A Must-Attend Second Plenary Added BMCC is thrilled to announce a fresh new take on the typical plenary experience: Building SHP 2.0 Together: A Statewide Working Session Get an inside look at the progress of Michigan's Statewide Housing Plan and help shape what comes next. This won't be a typical plenary. After a quick update on what's working (and what we've learned), we'll roll up our sleeves for a hands-on session where your voice matters. Using a mix of interactive techniques that mirror the engagement strategies of the broader SHP 2.0 process, attendees will: Share challenges and regional differences across Michigan's housing landscape Contribute insights drawn from experience See their input reflected in real time and connected to emerging statewide strategies This is your chance to directly influence SHP 2.0 and be part of building an action-focused, responsive, and implementation-ready SHP 2.0 housing blueprint for Michigan. The plenary will be hosted by: Kyle Smith headshot Kyle Smith is a national subject matter expert in housing supply, local housing planning, and zoning reforms. For ICF, he leads teams developing innovative housing solutions for regions, states, and cities, and has provided technical assistance for HUD, FHWA, the Chicago-area Metropolitan Mayors Caucus, and other organizations. For five years, he served as director of the Chicago-area Homes for a Changing Region program, which provided technical assistance to municipalities to produce local housing policy plans, and he provided technical assistance on housing and transportation affordability strategies at the Center for Neighborhood Technology. He serves as Project Manager for Michigan's Statewide Housing Plan 2.0. Courtney Barthle headshot Courtney Barthle is a senior people and project leader, published author, expert facilitator, and recognized speaker and coach. She leads project teams working to develop equitable solutions for dismantling systems that limit economic mobility and self-determination for marginalized families. A research-to-practice expert with decades of experience in human-centered design and multimodal stakeholder engagement, she leads ICF's Poverty Solutions practice and advises across multisector equity-focused program offerings. She is honored to be leading the community engagement elements of Michigan's Statewide Housing Plan 2.0 effort. Explore Tracks BMCC features 80+ sessions across five learning tracks plus two bonus tracks, offering practical tools and new perspectives you can bring back to your community. Asset Management Community & Economic Development Homeownership Finance & Development Preventing & Ending Homelessness Rental Finance & Development CHECK OUT SESSIONS
In this episode, Sarah explores a painful reality for many coaches: investing high five-figure sums into business programs that fail to deliver the promised results. She dismantles the popular industry belief that lack of clients is a "mindset" issue and identifies the true culprit: a professional skills gap in client acquisition.The Five-Figure Investment CycleSarah describes a recurring pattern where intelligent, qualified professionals spend between £5,000 and £22,000 on established, polished coaching brands. Despite their research and commitment, many of these coaches are left with credit card debt and zero new clients. The Mindset Promise: Most programs suggest that if you work on your identity and "energy," clients will naturally follow. The Sufficiency Problem: While mindset work is valuable, it is insufficient on its own because it bypasses the mechanics of finding and converting clients. Sound Decisions, Poor Outcomes: These investments often look like sound professional decisions at the time, leading to a sense of private shame when they don't work.Client Acquisition is a Professional CompetencyA core theme of this episode is that client acquisition - the practical skill of identifying, reaching, and converting clients - is a distinct professional skill entirely separate from coaching ability. What is actually missing?Specific Identification: Learning how to find a specific group of people with a problem they are actively trying to resolve. Resonant Language: Describing that problem in a way that makes the potential client feel genuinely understood. Credible Presence: Building a consistent presence that makes you the obvious solution to their specific challenge.Solving a Skills Gap with a Mindset ProgramSarah argues that coaches who fail to get results often aren't failing because of a lack of confidence or a "blocked" mindset. Instead, they have been sold a mindset solution for what is actually a skills gap. Natural Assumption: Many programs treat client acquisition as something that happens "naturally" once you have a website or a morning routine. Internalised Blame: When clients don't appear, coaches assume something is wrong with them personally rather than realising their professional training never included business-building skills. A Learnable Skill: Acquisition is not a personality trait; it can be taught, practised, and refined just like any other professional competency.Ready for a different approach?The Coaching Revolution was created specifically to fill this gap, teaching client acquisition as a structured professional skill within an ICF-accredited framework. Join the Nail Your Niche Challenge: Head over to thecoachingrevolution.com and wait five seconds for the registration pop-up. Join the waiting list, where when you register for the next iteration of the challenge, you will begin learning the practical work that moves you from invisible to fully booked. Book a strategy call: Visit thecoachingrevolution.com and click on any "Book a Call" link.Have you enjoyed this episode? Find out more and take the FREE quiz at: https://thecoachingrevolution.com/Join the FREE Facebook group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/buildacoachingbusiness
Jessica talks with Tony Martignetti, Leadership Advisor, Artist, & Creative Guide.Tony Martignetti is a leadership advisor who helps leaders navigate complexity without losing themselves. With over 30 years across high-tech and life sciences, he has worked where innovation, pressure, and uncertainty collide. His defining insight: brilliance doesn't disappear in organizations; it goes dormant when people are asked to fragment themselves to perform. Through Inspired Purpose Partners, Tony designs experiences that integrate purpose, presence, creativity, and connection to drive meaningful impact. He is the author of Climbing the Right Mountain and Campfire Lessons for Leaders, host of The Virtual Campfire Podcast, and a keynote speaker known for creating “campfire” spaces for honest, expansive dialogue.Follow Tony and his work at:https://tonymspeaks.com/ https://linktr.ee/inspiredcoach https://www.ipurposepartners.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/tonymartignett1/ ~About The Ampersand Manifesto:What happens when you refuse to choose just one path? On The Ampersand Manifesto, host Jessica Wan sits down with “the most interesting people at the dinner party” – those who have made their mark in two or more seemingly different worlds. Through candid conversations, we explore what it takes to navigate multiple callings, find the connection points between them, and redefine success on our own terms. Together, we're co-creating The Ampersand Manifesto: principles for leading a multi-passionate life.~About your host, Jessica Wan:Executive Coach | Classical Singer | Former Marketing Leader & Tech ExecutiveJessica helps founders and leaders make the invisible visible. With 20+ years of experience scaling brands like Apple, Smule, and the San Francisco Opera, and as an ICF-certified executive coach, she provides the clarity and strategy needed to lead bravely and find fulfillment in a multi-passionate life.Work with Jessica: Book a Free Intro CallJoin The Cohort: An Ampersand Community for Dual-Career ProfessionalsFollow the Journey: @ampersandmanifestoConnect: Jessica's LinkedInListen: Singing Excerpts~CreditsCo-produced and hosted by Jessica WanCo-produced, edited, sound design, and original music by Carlos Schmitt
David Staley has been described as an "avant garde scholar." A professor in the departments of History and Design at The Ohio State University in the USA he is the author of several books including Knowledge Towns: Colleges and Universities as Talent Magnets. In 2022 he was named the "Best Freelance Writer" by the Ohio Society of Professional Journalists for his Next futures column with Columbus Underground. With the ICF Summit being held in Columbus this October and because of Staley's long relationship with ICF, we invited him to chat with Lou about "the knowledge enterprise" and whether it can be built even in places where this is in university. In this edition of The INTELLIGENT Community Interview, ICF Co-Founder Lou Zacharilla speaks with Dr. David Staley, Associate Professor of History, The Ohio State University.
In this thought-provoking episode of the Developing the Leader Within Podcast, we are thrilled to welcome Sharlee Lyons, a best-selling author and ICF certified coach dedicated to equipping young leaders to transition from average to all-star. With her extensive background in higher education and personal development, Sharlee shares invaluable insights on the mindset traps that often hold young professionals back from reaching their full potential.Join us as Sharlee discusses the pervasive issue of comparison among emerging leaders and how it can stifle their growth. She emphasizes the importance of recognizing one's unique superpowers and utilizing them to solve problems and serve others. We also explore the challenges of navigating hard times and the significance of cultivating resilience in the pursuit of success.You will learn the following:1. The impact of comparison on young leaders and strategies to overcome it. 03:18 2. How to embrace challenges and develop resilience in the face of adversity. 09:01 3. The critical role of self-awareness in effective leadership and team dynamics. 12:13 4. Why investing in self-development is essential for long-term success. 14:155. The difference between seeking recognition and building genuine leadership credibility. 21:11To get in contact with Sharlee: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sharleelyonsWebsite: https://sharleelyons.comBook: https://Amazon.comThis episode is sponsored by Triad Leadership Solutions Website: https://triadleadershipsolutions.my.canva.siteOur podcast is sponsored by The Global Trends MagazineWebsite: https://www.gc-bl.org/global-trendsThe Outlier Project Website: https://theoutlierproject.co Ascend MeditationsWebsite: https://www.ascendmeditations.appChop AiWebsite: https://www.chopai.appCastle and Compass AdventuresWebsite: https://castle-and-compass-adventures.comBonefrog Coffee CompanyWebsite: https://bonefrogcoffee.comCoupon code: DTLW BoomcasterWebsite: https://www.boomcaster.comSupaPassWebsite: https://supapass.comMake sure to Catch us streaming on Roku and Amazon Fire TV on the Purpose Place Network.Also catch our Exclusive Members only content “Going Deeper Within” on the Lions Guide Academy.https://www.lionsguide.com/gdw
Trigger Warning: This episode includes discussion of childhood abuse and trauma.Bestselling author Jill Monaco reveals why your biggest business bottleneck isn't strategy, it's what's happening beneath the surface. Most founders blame hiring, systems, or tactics. In reality, deeper currents of fear, control, and outsourced identity are blocking growth.Jill Monaco is an ICF-certified life coach, founder of Freedom Coaching, and bestselling author who works with high-performing founders. She and Alex Sheridan explore burnout warning signs, the superpower/self-destruction paradox, and the Freedom Framework that rewires beliefs for lasting change.Key takeaways:00:00:00 Introduction00:02:13Q: What are the early warning signs of founder burnout?A: Jill Monaco identifies grinding without boundaries, imbalanced life buckets, and relational strain as key signals before burnout hits.00:09:00Q: How can founders stay productive without feeling scattered?A: Jill Monaco advocates creating weekly containers, dedicating specific days to specific work to keep promises to yourself.00:14:00Q: How do you stop comparing yourself to other entrepreneurs?A: Jill Monaco shares how the comparison trap made her feel like she was failing. Alex adds that most ultra-successful entrepreneurs wish they cared about the simple things.00:20:47Q: What is the Freedom Framework for founders?A: Jill Monaco presents her model: event, thought, emotion, belief, action. Every action comes from what you truly believe about yourself.00:26:45Q: Can you actually rewire your brain to break limiting beliefs?A: Jill Monaco uses the cornfield analogy. The old neural pathway is worn smooth, but carving a new path through consistency lets the old one grow over. Neuroplasticity is measurable.00:30:41Q: Why is listening more powerful than giving advice?A: Jill Monaco explains that people remember how you made them feel, not what you said. Alex tested this with clients and found deeper results.Subscribe so you never miss an episode of Founder Talk.
Mom2Mom MENTORING - Work/Life Harmony, Soul-Care, Kingdom Minded Moms
What does it look like to parent a child with a mental illness — and keep your faith intact? Kelly Jackson has lived it. This conversation is for you. There are moms sitting in church pews right now who are exhausted, confused, and quietly wondering if they're the only ones. Their child is struggling — with moods, behaviors, diagnoses they didn't see coming — and no one is talking about it. This episode is for them and for those who know someone who has mental health concerns. Kelly Jackson is the Executive Director of NAMI Johnson County and a mom who has walked one of the harder roads in parenting: a husband who experienced a suicide attempt, a daughter who began hearing voices at eleven, and the long, winding journey of learning to love her family well in the middle of it all. She doesn't speak from theory. She speaks from Tuesday mornings and medication trials and moments of grace. Together, Misty and Kelly talk through ✦ what mental health conditions actually are (and why "one in five" is a number every mom needs to sit with), ✦ how to find the right therapist for your child, ✦ what guilt and grief look like from the inside, and ✦ why Kelly believes the church has more room to grow in this conversation. Kelly also shares the one daily rhythm that has kept her anchored through all of it — and it's simpler than you might think. This isn't a heavy, clinical episode. It's a conversation between two women who love Jesus and love moms, trying to make sure no one has to figure this out alone. Kelly's honesty will meet you wherever you are — whether you're navigating a fresh diagnosis, wondering if what you're seeing warrants concern, or just trying to understand someone you love. NOTE: This podcast is for educational and encouragement purposes only and does not constitute professional counseling, therapy, or medical advice. Misty Hughes is an ICF-certified life coach. For mental health support, please consult a licensed professional. Resources mentioned: NAMI: https://www.nami.org/ Child Mind Institute Symptom Checker: https://childmind.org/symptomchecker/ MISTY'S RESOURCES: Episode #22: There is Such A Thing As Good Grieving with Laurie Goddu https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/there-is-such-a-thing-as-good-grieving-and-busy-moms-can-do-it/id1738069561?i=1000668456618 Rhythms Of Renewal Guide: A FREE tool to help you Discover God's life-giving rhythms of life. https://mistyhughes.com/resources Check out Misty's New Website: https://mistyhughes.com/ Join the BECOMING WAITLIST for the next Group Coaching Cohort
When Mel Sims discovered coaching, she was adamant that nobody could understand her life. Her journey into coaching allowed her to put down the mask, harness her strengths, and re-emerge into the world as a neurodivergent emotional coach.Mel trained as a coach while learning about herself through the lens of an ADHD diagnosis. As well as offering her a pathway of personal growth, these experiences helped Mel find her niche through the realisation that neurodivergent people need a particular coaching approach.In this episode of The Coach's Journey Podcast, Mel speaks to host Joey Owen about different styles of emotional communication, and the many ways in which people can be misunderstood. She talks about how being an “unpolished” coach enables her to offer a space where people can let go of their need hide their feelings and be guided by an authentic intuition.Mel offers several brilliant metaphors and visualisation techniques that illuminate this episode, such as the idea of wearing a colander on your head as a way to filter information, and thinking of neurodivergent minds as stars that have become more visible in our world of modern telescopes and greater understanding.The challenges of time management, rest and staying grounded are explored in this episode as Mel describes how she tailors coaching to people who might need alternative approaches to scheduling, flexibility, communication and depth.Mel and Joey also talk about:The intuitive, bordering-on-magical connection that neurodivergent people share having navigated shared challengesHow to make space for emotional outpourings that can have a transformative impact in coaching sessionsA psychological technique that enables a kinder, more compassionate approach to self-coachingHow to own your weak spots and set healthy expectationsMel also explains why she starts some of her inspirational coaching talks wearing a snorkel, a diving mask and a pair of flippers!For more information about Mel, visit: https://melsimslifecoach.co.uk or @theadhdhummingbird on Facebook and InstagramFor more information about host Joey Owen, visit http://www.joeyowencoaching.com/ Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.comMusic by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgTo support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN:- Robbie Swale's 12-Minute Method books https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12minute-books - Ruth Kudzi https://www.ruthkudzi.com/- ICF https://coachingfederation.org/- John Demartini https://drdemartini.com/- Calendly https://calendly.com/- Meta Business Suite https://www.facebook.com/business/tools/meta-business-suite- Inside Our Minds with Chris Packham https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0bbnh47- Eye movement desensitisation and reprocessing (EMDR) https://emdrassociation.org.uk/- Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria (RSD) https://www.additudemag.com/rejection-sensitive-dysphoria-and-adhd/- Transactional Analysis https://www.simplypsychology.org/transactional-analysis-eric-berne.html- Episode #116 of The Coach's Journey Podcast, on the importance of having your own coach https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/116-why-hiring-a-coach-is-the-most-important-investment-youll-make-in-your-coaching-business- Patience https://www.channel4.com/programmes/patience LINKS FROM MEL:- My favourite ‘emotions in individuals' viewing https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/p0b8kmch/couples-therapy - Shame and ADHD https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002c6bb - Being different and anxious as an Autistic person - https://www.channel4.com/programmes/are-you-autistic Free additional training for coaches with Positive Intelligence (do the test first to see what your Sabateurs are) https://www.positiveintelligence.com/saboteurs/ - Discovering your values quiz (I realised my ad agency days and working with under 5's was all about loving helping people) https://drdemartini.com/pl/play?url=%2Fwhat-are-values%2F - Great book on RSD (hating people being cross with you) https://atlantic-books.co.uk/book/the-courage-to-be-disliked/ - And another one written by a brilliant ADHD podcast host https://www.sheldonpress.co.uk/titles/alex-partridge/why-does-everybody-hate-me/9781399827843/
Jessica talks with Nicole Takesono Flowers, Opera Singer & Higher Ed Administrator.Originally from Hawaii, Nicole has garnered acclaim for her rich, warm mezzo-soprano voice and profound dedication to storytelling. She has graced the stages of esteemed companies such as the San Francisco Opera, Opera San Jose, West Edge Opera, Festival Opera, and West Bay Opera. Recently, she has shifted her focus to recital work, collaborating closely with guitarist Sharon Wayne. For over 20 years, she has served as an administrator at UCSF, where she is currently the Program Manager for the Biophysics Grad program. In 2022 she was awarded the Chancellor's Award for Exceptional University Service at UCSF. Follow Nicole on Instagram to hear about her upcoming recitals.~About The Ampersand Manifesto:What happens when you refuse to choose just one path? On The Ampersand Manifesto, host Jessica Wan sits down with “the most interesting people at the dinner party” – those who have made their mark in two or more seemingly different worlds. Through candid conversations, we explore what it takes to navigate multiple callings, find the connection points between them, and redefine success on our own terms. Together, we're co-creating The Ampersand Manifesto: principles for leading a multi-passionate life.~About your host, Jessica Wan:Executive Coach | Classical Singer | Former Marketing Leader & Tech ExecutiveJessica helps founders and leaders make the invisible visible. With 20+ years of experience scaling brands like Apple, Smule, and the San Francisco Opera, and as an ICF-certified executive coach, she provides the clarity and strategy needed to lead bravely and find fulfillment in a multi-passionate life.Work with Jessica: Book a Free Intro CallJoin The Cohort: An Ampersand Community for Dual-Career ProfessionalsFollow the Journey: @ampersandmanifestoConnect: Jessica's LinkedInListen: Singing Excerpts~CreditsCo-produced and hosted by Jessica WanCo-produced, edited, sound design, and original music by Carlos Schmitt
In this edition of the Intelligence Test podcast, ICF co-founder Robert Bell has a conversation with Bryan Paterson, Mayor, Kingston, ON, Canada and Kelly Rowe, Fellow, Canadian Urban Institute. How can you grow a city's economy if the best and brightest keep leaving town? That was the challenge facing Bryan Paterson when he was elected as mayor of Kingston, Ontario, Canada. Kingston is a government town, a university town and a tourist town – but had stagnated for years. Hear the story of its journey to opportunity and growth.
Stacey Champagne is a cybersecurity executive, an insider risk specialist, and the founder of Women's Cybersecurity Alliance — a private network built for experienced women in cyber who are done being the most qualified person in the room and somehow still getting passed over for the next thing.She joined the Feminist Business Framework in September 2025, became a 1:1 client, and had her first five-figure launch in March 2026. This episode is her telling you exactly what that journey looked like from the inside.Some of what she said that I'm still thinking about:She originally underpriced her offers because of the feedback you may have gotten, too (someone insinuating they were “too high”). The low prices felt safe. What she didn't realize until we worked through it together was that the low prices were building the wrong room — attracting people whose values weren't aligned with hers, who had opinions about what she should be charging, who were never going to be her people. The moment she priced for who she actually wanted to work with, those people showed up. Immediately.She also talked about the days mid-launch where nothing was happening. No sales, just silence, and a completely relatable inner dialogue of “what if nobody buys.” I told her what I tell everyone: people buy on the last day, often in the last hour, but there is no fix for normal feelings. And then the launch closed and she had her first five figures.We got into the coaching industry, specifically the gap between what ICF certification programs teach you — essentially, ask good questions and never share your own experience or expertise — and what people actually need when they hire a coach. Stacey is a coach herself and came into the Feminist Business Framework partly to learn the tactical stuff nobody had given her, and partly, in her words, to watch how I sell so she could understand it from the inside. That part of the conversation is worth the listen if you have ever felt like the business side of your practice is a language you were never taught to speak.She is also a decade deep in cybersecurity and has things to say about using AI tools as an entrepreneur that are not scary and not hype — just: here is what you are actually opting into by default, here is why clicking allow all is the kind of decision that feels fine until it isn't, and here is why the idea that women are behind on AI might be less of a data point and more of a narrative someone is running on purpose.Stacey is brilliant, honest, and very funny. This is a good one.If you want to get into the work that took her from underpricing to a five-figure launch, I'm hosting a free workshop next week. Details here. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit carakovacs.substack.com/subscribe
The very first episode of The Difficulty. A 50-year-old paperweight on my father's desk turned out to be a line from a 1900 Irish play, and the seed of this show. What you're getting on Mondays vs. Thursdays, what's launching this week at crossroadspublishing.group, the founding-and-selling of C&R Press, the Terminus Magazine “just make it real” lesson, and the $4,000 bestseller campaign I almost said yes to two days ago.00:00 Welcome — we're not about perfectionism, we're about idealizing03:00 The motto: the difficulty in life is the choice04:30 Origin of the quote — my father's rock paperweight, George Moore, 190008:00 What this show is NOT (and is)11:30 The free Difficulty Field Guide12:30 What's launching this week: the show, the site, IF/THEN Books, Iris #117:00 Crossroads Publishing services — for writers with a body of work20:00 Who I am — PhD, ICF coach, Enneagram, C&R Press 1996-2015, 50+ books24:00 Making it real imperfectly — the Terminus Magazine origin story30:00 Who this show is for33:00 The $4,000 Brody bestseller campaign and $2,000 Cohen Groundbreakers38:00 The in-between is the hard part — the real difficulty isn't the choice42:00 What's coming Thursday: how to stop believing your stuff is specialThe Difficulty Field Guide (free PDF — eight difficulties every creative life faces)Iris Blackwood and the Curse of Hemlock Island (launching Tuesday May 5, with freeDecision Tree map and educator's reading guide)Crossroads Publishing Group — IF/THEN Books, Crossroads Press services, free resources.Subscribe to The Descent (the show's hub):YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@chadprevostwriterPersonal site: https://chadprevost.comMentioned in this episode:- George Moore, The Bending of the Bough (1900) — the source quote- C&R Press (founded 2006, sold 2015)- Terminus Magazine (Atlanta literary magazine origin story)- Game Time Books — earlier interactive-fiction venture- Dave Chesson / Kindlepreneur — Publisher Rocket- Paul G. Brody / Brody Consulting — bestseller campaign service- Bryan Cohen / Best Page Forward — Groundbreakers community- Robert Frost — “the road less traveled” Get full access to The Descent at chadprevost.substack.com/subscribe
Here's the question this show keeps asking:What does it cost to keep choosing the work?This is The Difficulty — a podcast about the choices that shape a creative life, and the courage it takes to make them.I'm Dr. Chad Prevost — writer, publisher, ICF-certified coach. I've spent years inside the questions creative people actually wrestle with. Not the productivity-hack version. The real one.New episodes weekly. Full episodes, transcripts, and Notes from the cutting-room floor.Subscribe wherever you listen.The Difficulty. Start anywhere. Get full access to The Descent at chadprevost.substack.com/subscribe
Today's guests are #1 high-level ICF-trained (top 2% of coaches) Jamie Slingerland, MCC and Ruthie Perez Slingerland, MCC married coaches, Enneagram mentors, and business partners who, brick by brick, have built a healthy communication pattern across years, even with opposite though both joyful personalities. Listen as we chat with Jamie and Ruthie Slingerland (7-9 pairing), and what happened when and why their previous dynamic finally had to change, and what it took to find a healthy voice for both of them. If you've been living in a similar dynamic, but haven't had words for it yet, or you'd like to learn more about becoming an ICF coach under their academy, this episode is for you! Watch on YouTube! Find Jamie and Ruthie's Coaching Academy for an ICF Credential here: www.CatalystCoachAcademy.com To get coaching with Jamie or Ruthie, visit www.FreedomLifeJourney.com Find more about your type, the pod, freebies, and SO much more at our website right here! www.EnneagramandMarriage.com Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too here! Get Christa's Best-Selling Book, The Enneagram in Marriage, here! https://a.co/d/df8SxVx Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
How I Started a Coaching Business In this episode, Bev and Alecia discuss:Alecia's backstory around coaching and starting a businessHow you got visibleWhat you wish someone had told you about starting a coaching businessKey Take-aways:Permission to build quietlyIf you want to touch base with Alecia about training, business or connection, reach out using contact info belowAbout Alecia:Alecia Harrison is a personal and professional coach who helps people navigate life's transitions with clarity and calm. She creates space to slow down, notice what is shaping your experience, and make purposeful choices even when work and life feel heavy or too full. Through curiosity, compassion, and small intentional shifts, she guides clients toward growth that feels authentic and sustainable.Connect with Alecia:www.AleciaHarrison.comI would be glad to offer:A free conversation for coaches or those exploring coaching to talk through business, training, or what's next.Book a Call: https://calendar.app.google/UUrDuN4sW4tWtMHT7About Beverly:Beverly Sartain is the President of the Holistic Coach Training Institute, where she trains coaches on coaching skills and a holistic approach. The Holistic Coach Certification Programs are ICF Level 1 and Level 2 accredited that focuses on a holistic approach to coaching. We see clients as whole, complete and resourceful to create creative solutions to their challenges and dreams. During her ten-year career in nonprofits, she managed and developed domestic violence and co-occurring residential programs. Beverly is a Certified Addictions Professional. She has her PCC (Professional Certified Coach) from the ICF and loves developing human beings through coaching.Connect with HCTI:Sign-up for Holistic Coach Newsletter to get coaching skill and coaching business inspiration here.Sign-up for a Discovery Call here so you can join our Holistic Coach Certification Program or receive coaching.Website: https://holisticcoachtraininginstitute.com/
Jessica talks with Christof Zürn: Strategy Facilitator, Music Thinker, and Improviser.Christof uses the dynamics of music to help leaders orchestrate innovation and turn complexity into clarity. A joiner by trade with an MA in Musicology, he combines the precision of craftsmanship with the fluidity of strategic thinking to unlock momentum in teams. In the 90s, he pioneered digital music interaction, interviewing legends like Daniel Barenboim and B.B. King. Today, he channels that diverse experience into guiding leadership programs and workshops for global clients. Alongside his consulting practice, he lectures in Creative Business at Utrecht University of Applied Sciences, and he performs with the improvising collective Raum-Musik für Saxophone, as well as with other ensembles. He is the author of the book The Power of Music Thinking and host of the podcast of the same name.Find Christof's work at musicthinking.com.~About The Ampersand Manifesto:What happens when you refuse to choose just one path? On The Ampersand Manifesto, host Jessica Wan sits down with “the most interesting people at the dinner party” – those who have made their mark in two or more seemingly different worlds. Through candid conversations, we explore what it takes to navigate multiple callings, find the connection points between them, and redefine success on our own terms. Together, we're co-creating The Ampersand Manifesto: principles for leading a multi-passionate life.~About your host, Jessica Wan:Executive Coach | Classical Singer | Former Marketing Leader & Tech ExecutiveJessica helps founders and leaders make the invisible visible. With 20+ years of experience scaling brands like Apple, Smule, and the San Francisco Opera, and as an ICF-certified executive coach, she provides the clarity and strategy needed to lead bravely and find fulfillment in a multi-passionate life.Work with Jessica: Book a Free Intro CallJoin The Cohort: An Ampersand Community for Dual-Career ProfessionalsFollow the Journey: @ampersandmanifestoConnect: Jessica's LinkedInListen: Singing Excerpts~CreditsCo-produced and hosted by Jessica WanCo-produced, edited, sound design, and original music by Carlos Schmitt
Dominique is the CEO at Group Coaching HQ. She has built group coaching programs for Fortune 500 companies, and has trained over 300 coaches in the art of group coaching. As a consultant for organizations scaling their group coaching programs, she supports them to amplify their coaching culture. She holds a M.Ed in Educational Leadership and Change, is an ICF PCC, Certified Mentor Coach, Certified Systemic Team Coach, Hogan Assessments Certified Coach and certified LEGO® SERIOUS PLAY® Facilitator and Coach. A surfer and adventurer, and she lives a peaceful life in Brooklyn, NY. Social Mediahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/dominique-mas/Https://groupcoachinghq.com ***********Susanne Mueller / www.susannemueller.biz TEDX Talk, May 2022: Running and Life: 5KM Formula for YOUR Successhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT_5Er1cLvY Join Substack: https://substack.com/@susannemuellernyc?Enjoy one coaching session for free if you are a yearly subscriber. 800+ weekly blogs / 500+ podcasts / 1 Ironman Triathlon / 5 half ironman races / 26 marathon races / 4 books / 1 Mt. Kilimanjaro / 1 TEDx Talk
Lauren LeMunyan is breaking down the myths of goal setting, helping leaders embody their future selves, and building psychological safety from the inside out.This one hit different. I sat down with Lauren LeMunyan — certified master coach, CEO of Spitfire Coach, and creator of Future Self Design — and walked away with a completely new way of thinking about transformation. We talked about burnout, the fear of success, why SMART goals keep us stuck, and what it actually means to become the person you're designing yourself to be. It's a conversation about courage, self-awareness, and the kind of inner work that creates real, lasting change.Lauren's path to coaching began in a meditation during her first coach training weekend — going through a divorce at 31, she heard a voice say 'you are the Spitfire Coach.' What followed was a decade of building a practice that now serves individuals and corporate teams alike. Future Self Design flips the script on traditional goal setting: instead of focusing on what's not working, it asks who you become on the other side — and challenges you to start embodying that person today.The conversation also gets into psychological safety as a spectrum, the ladder of inference, why burnout is really about unmet expectations, and how community is the antidote to the isolation epidemic. Lauren is funny, direct, and deeply real — and this episode is packed with tools you can use immediately.What We CoverHow Lauren went from a messy divorce to building a 10-year coaching practiceWhy SMART goals recreate the same patterns — and what Future Self Design does differentlyThe fear of success: why it's more common than fear of failure, especially for womenWhat psychological safety actually looks like as a spectrum, not a binaryThe ladder of inference and how we make up stories that aren't trueWhy burnout is about unmet expectations — and how to address it at the rootThe micro decisions that stack into sustainable transformationPull Quotes"Designing your future self isn't about getting it right. It's about being curious."— Lauren LeMunyan"Your feelings are valid — but they might be lying to you."— Lauren LeMunyan"Where your focus goes is where your energy grows. Stop circling the problem and start building toward what you want."— Lauren LeMunyanAbout Lauren LeMunyanLauren LeMunyan is a certified master coach, speaker, and CEO of Spitfire Coach. She is the creator of Future Self Design — an ICF-approved framework and live intensive that helps leaders move beyond goal setting and into embodying the person they are becoming. She works with individuals and corporate teams on psychological safety, inner barriers, and sustainable change. She has a podcast, a YouTube channel, and multiple books. She is a military spouse, a mom, and based in Denver.Take Action1) Join the Future Self Design intensive at futureselfdesign.com2) Explore free resources, the podcast, and YouTube at spitfirecoach.com3) If you're a coach or leader, look into ICF-approved training in the Future Self Design framework — 13 CCEs4) Follow Lauren on Instagram and LinkedIn @spitfirecoachConnectWebsite: spitfirecoach.com · futureselfdesign.comPodcast: The Spitfire Coach PodcastYouTube: Spitfire CoachInstagram & LinkedIn: @spitfirecoach#SpitfireCoach #FutureSelfDesign #LaurenLeMunyan #TogetherDigital #PowerLounge #WomenInLeadership #PsychologicalSafety #Burnout #GoalSetting #SelfAwareness #Coaching #TransformationalLeadership #WomenWhoLeadSupport the show
Most leaders think negotiation begins when both sides sit down to talk numbers. By then, trust, incentives, timing, internal alignment, and first impressions have already shaped the outcome. That is why smart founders, executives, investors, and board members can have the right facts and still walk away with the wrong result.In this episode of Beginner's Mind, Stefanie Schubert explains why negotiation is not a last-minute performance at the table. It is a leadership capability that starts much earlier, in the way people prepare, build trust, frame value, listen, manage emotions, and understand what the other side truly needs.Stefanie is a Professor of Economics at SRH University Heidelberg, a Negotiation Advisor, Keynote Speaker, and ICF-certified Executive Coach. Her work combines behavioral economics, game theory, negotiation, executive coaching, and real-world business practice, with experience in complex business environments, alliance management, and biopharma. This conversation moves from the practical to the profound: why intelligent people still make weak decisions, why preparation often matters more than persuasion, why pushing people creates resistance, how ballroom dancing explains negotiation better than many textbooks, and why investors, scientists, founders, and corporate leaders often speak past each other without realizing it.We also explore John Nash, A Beautiful Mind, first offers, anchoring, emotional decision-making, AI-driven profiling, trust in virtual environments, and why rejection in fundraising is not necessarily the end of the negotiation.As Stefanie puts it:(01:50:33) “You bring in something. It's not that you beg for money with the investor.”That may be the core lesson of the episode.Good negotiation is not domination. It is not theatre. It is not a bag of tricks. It is the discipline of understanding value, shaping the game, and entering the room with enough clarity to build something useful with another person.Selected moments(00:00:00) Why smart people lose negotiations early(00:04:24) Negotiation starts before the table(00:07:57) Why smart people still decide poorly(00:13:25) Influence creates value not manipulation(00:18:21) Human shortcuts quietly kill opportunities(00:25:08) Ballroom dancing reveals negotiation resistance(00:28:44) Active listening creates leadership leverage(00:34:06) Authenticity beats dominance in leadership(00:37:05) How to de-escalate emotional negotiations(00:45:05) Game theory without mathematical intimidation(00:52:57) A Beautiful Mind and collaboration traps(01:00:47) First offers and anchoring pressure(01:06:37) Internal alignment before external negotiation(01:12:25) Why emotions can be rational(01:17:20) Fast thinking versus sustainable judgment(01:32:25) AI profiling can poison first impressions(01:40:59) Trust building before formal deals(01:45:04) Why investor rejection is not final(01:47:24) Designing negotiations from first contact(01:48:11) Create value before dividing value(01:50:28) Confidence before asking for Send us Fan Mail Join Christian Soschner for expert coaching. 50% Off - With 35+ years in deep tech, startups/scaleups, and public companies, Christian offers power video sessions. Elevate strategy, execution, and leadership. Book Now.Support the showJoin the Podcast Newsletter: Link
Why does the architecture profession's investment in human capital development still lag so far behind its investment in technology and tools?In this episode of Practice Disrupted, host Evelyn Lee is joined by Laura Weiss, an architect who stepped away from traditional practice thirty years ago to focus on the human systems that make design possible. With a decade-long tenure at IDEO as a practice director and associate partner, where she co-led the original service design practice, and experience as a principal at Korn Ferry, Laura brings a precise, unsentimental perspective to the profession. Now an ICF-certified coach and mediator returning to teach at Yale, she explores why the quality of the conversations we have is the ultimate determinant of a firm's success.The conversation centers on Laura's framework of the "five conversations" essential for the growth of people, firms, and projects. She breaks down the mechanics of why feedback often collapses in creative organizations and why conflict avoidance is a "leadership strategy" that inevitably leads to higher long-term costs. Laura challenges the industry to rethink its approach to leadership, moving away from the "worker bee" mentality toward a more holistic understanding of agency and influence within the "spider web" of organizational systems."Organizations or systems are like spider webs. You touch one part of it and the whole thing can move. So anyone that thinks, 'I'm just a worker bee,' think a little bit more creatively. If you lean into your own personal sense of power and agency, it will come." - Laura WeissThis episode is a masterclass in the "soft" systems that drive "hard" results. Laura provides a roadmap for architects to reclaim their power, navigate the discomfort of difficult feedback, and build a more resilient professional culture. Whether you are a firm leader looking to evolve your leadership style or a young professional seeking to understand your own influence, this discussion offers a framework for navigating the complex human dynamics of practice.Guest:Laura Weiss is an architect, leadership coach, and facilitator. She spent a decade at IDEO as a Practice Director and Associate Partner, where she helped pioneer the service design practice. She has served as a Principal at Korn Ferry and is currently an ICF-certified coach and mediator. Laura is also a member of the faculty at the Yale School of Architecture, where she teaches on leadership and organizational development.This episode is especially for you if:✅ You want to understand why conflict avoidance in leadership is a strategy that always costs more than it saves.✅ You are curious about why feedback systems often fail in creative environments and how to fix them.✅ You are interested in the "five conversations" framework for fostering growth in people, firms, and projects.✅ You want to learn how to view your firm as a "spider web" of influence where every individual has agency.✅ You are looking for ways to elevate the profession's investment in human capital to match its investment in technology.What have you done to take action lately? Share your reflections with us on social and join the conversation.
Send us Fan MailThere's a unique kind of grief that comes when you lose the role that once defined you.In this honest and deeply meaningful conversation, Dawn Marruccino shares her journey of serving over two decades behind the scenes in ministry leadership—and what happened when that role began to shift. What once felt like purpose and belonging slowly turned into burnout, invisibility, and a deep sense of rejection.But what if what feels like rejection… is actually release?Dawn vulnerably opens up about the unraveling of her identity, the spiritual tension that followed, and how she encountered God as El Roi—the God who sees. Through that season, she didn't just rebuild her career—she rebuilt her identity, her voice, and her life.If you've ever felt unseen, overlooked, or unsure of who you are in a season of transition, this episode will meet you right where you are.About DawnDawn Marruccino is an ICF-certified coach, speaker, and retreat host who helps high-capacity women stop performing and start living aligned. After more than 20 years serving behind the scenes in church and nonprofit leadership, she now equips women to rebuild their identity, reconnect with their voice, and step into a more honest and aligned life.Connect with DawnWebsite: https://www.coachdawnnoel.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dawn_marraccino/Mention this episode and get 20% off any of Dawn's coaching services. Loved This Episode?If this conversation encouraged you, share it with a friend, leave a review, and make sure you're subscribed so you never miss an episode.Connect with Leslie: Follow on IG: @yourjoyfulorderstyle Website: https://shopjoyfulorder.com/Email: lmartinez@yourjoyfulorder.com to schedule- Speaking Events, Interviews or Life Coaching SessionsShop my SOAP Journal & Digital Products: https://shopjoyfulorder.com/Watch this Episode on You Tube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsXoAYIM2mfclNtYiaOzIUwShop my Gratitude, Goals & Prayer Journal on Amazon:https://a.co/d/09Djvaw
Jessica talks (and laughs a lot) with Ashley Albert, Founder, Public Speaker & Idea Man.Ashley Albert is grateful that being a Polymath requires no math. As co-founder of The Matzo Project, she's the creative voice behind the artisanal cracker brand, which can be found in the fanciest restaurants, hotels and specialty stores around the world. As the founder of The Royal Palms Shuffleboard Club in Brooklyn and Chicago, she's introduced hundreds of thousands to the majestic, century-old game (and she was ranked 10th best female player in the world). As a 25-year veteran of the New York City voice-over industry, she's starred in countless commercials, video games and cartoons for clients like McDonald's, Nutella, Coca-Cola and Nickelodeon. As the lead singer, songwriter and producer of the kindie rock band, The Jimmies, she's performed for throngs of screaming first graders at festivals like Lollapalooza and Austin City Limits. Known in the Bay Area where friends call her “Bertie”, she spends her free time buying domain names, taking too many pictures of her dog, dreaming up badge ideas for her new Adult Scouting project and threatening to confiscate her teenager's phone on the hour.Find out what Bertie's up to at AshleyAlbert.com.~About The Ampersand Manifesto:What happens when you refuse to choose just one path? On The Ampersand Manifesto, host Jessica Wan sits down with “the most interesting people at the dinner party” – those who have made their mark in two or more seemingly different worlds. Through candid conversations, we explore what it takes to navigate multiple callings, find the connection points between them, and redefine success on our own terms. Together, we're co-creating The Ampersand Manifesto: principles for leading a multi-passionate life.~About your host, Jessica Wan:Executive Coach | Classical Singer | Former Marketing Leader & Tech ExecutiveJessica helps founders and leaders make the invisible visible. With 20+ years of experience scaling brands like Apple, Smule, and the San Francisco Opera, and as an ICF-certified executive coach, she provides the clarity and strategy needed to lead bravely and find fulfillment in a multi-passionate life.Work with Jessica: Book a Free Intro CallJoin The Cohort: An Ampersand Community for Dual-Career ProfessionalsFollow the Journey: @ampersandmanifestoConnect: Jessica's LinkedInListen: Singing Excerpts~CreditsCo-produced and hosted by Jessica WanCo-produced, edited, sound design, and original music by Carlos Schmitt
Self-compassion for Caregivers & CoachesIn this episode, Bev and Shannon discuss:Shannon's backstory around coaching and compassion4 Stages of the Learning Model and compassion3 ingredients for self-compassionKey Take-aways:Get curious about your own self-compassion practiceIf you are feel called to gift a Lil Grace to yourself or someone you know, find more about Lil Grace and self-compassion workshops here : https://www.projectlilgrace.com/About Shannon:Shannon Speaks is an ICF-certified coach, licensed therapist, and Sub-Mentor Coach / Coach Development Support with HCTI. She supports coaches and caregivers in integrating self-compassion into their work ~ not as an add-on, but as a foundational skill that shapes presence, partnership, and sustainable impact. She is the creator of Lil Grace, a self-compassion companion designed to help people shift their inner dialogue and learn to include themselves in the care they so readily offer others.Connect with Shannon:Website: https://nourishcc.com/More about Lil Grace and self-compassion workshops: https://www.projectlilgrace.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shannonspeaks/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/speaks.shannon/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/projectlilgraceContact Shannon through her website to receive a discount code for Holistic Coach Legacy Podcast listeners on special workshops.Resource discussed on the episode: Louise Hay, Power Thought Card Deck About Beverly:Beverly Sartain is the President of the Holistic Coach Training Institute, where she trains coaches on coaching skills and a holistic approach. The Holistic Coach Certification Programs are ICF Level 1 and Level 2 accredited that focuses on a holistic approach to coaching. We see clients as whole, complete and resourceful to create creative solutions to their challenges and dreams. During her ten-year career in nonprofits, she managed and developed domestic violence and co-occurring residential programs. Beverly is a Certified Addictions Professional. She has her PCC (Professional Certified Coach) from the ICF and loves developing human beings through coaching.Connect with HCTI:Sign-up for Holistic Coach Newsletter to get coaching skill and coaching business inspiration here.Sign-up for a Discovery Call here so you can join our Holistic Coach Certification Program or receive coaching.Website: https://holisticcoachtraininginstitute.com/
The fundamental truth is that who you are is how you coach. That's the principle that we are unpacking in today's episode. Today's guest opens up about her personal experience with neurodivergence, chronic illness, and burnout as a model to demonstrate how to show up whole and lead by example as a coach. We dig into the multi-layered responsibilities coaches have to their clients, their profession, and the world. This conversation will stretch you—in the very best way. Join us now!Katerina Kanelidou, MCC, is a leadership and team coach with 30 years of experience coaching, training, mentoring, and providing therapy with teams, groups, and individuals. In 2020, she co-founded the Team Coaching Global Alliance. She works with leaders and business owners worldwide, supporting them in creating healthy, high-value workplaces and fostering positive, sustainable change. Katerina is a recognized coaching authority, a frequent guest speaker at international conferences and events, and has served in various leadership roles within the ICF at both global and regional levels. She is a co-author of Becoming a Team Coach: The Essential ICF Guide, published in 2025. Show Highlights:Katerina's book, “The Encyclopedia of Team Coaching” (You need this book!)The neurodivergent mind is “like a web of thoughts.”Katerina's explanation of the statement, “Who you are is how you coach.”The coach's multi-layered responsibility to lead by example and “show up.”Viewing coaching supervision as a professional responsibilityApplying the diversity iceberg model Learning to say NO springs from values alignment (“Just because I can doesn't mean I should.”)The coach's understanding of neurodivergence, disability, and transparencyCoaching is not therapy.Individual vs. team coachingKnowing the differences in coaching, consulting, and trainingTeam coaching is pure coaching.Katerina's key takeaway from today's conversationResources:Connect with Katerina KanelidouWebsite, LinkedIn, and Becoming a Team Coach: The Essential ICF Guide Connect with MegExplore the STaR Coach Show Mentor Program. We are enrolling NOW for this summer!Subscribe to the STaR Coach Show YouTube Channel!Explore over 480 past episodes and other helpful resources at www.STaRcoachshow.com. Mentioned in this episode:Enroll More Clients: Clarity SprintDo you love coaching, but when it comes to enrolling clients, writing your bio, or posting online, you freeze? Or fall into “coach speak” that doesn't actually connect? That's not a you problem. It's a messaging problem—and it's costing you clients. Join me for my free, live five-day experience: Enroll More Clients: Clarity Sprint. From March 16–20 at 9 a.m. Central, I'll help you get crystal clear on your ideal client, refine your message so it actually resonates, and create a confidence statement that makes booking a call the obvious next step. No fluff, just clarity, you can use immediately. Grab your free spot at: https://starcoachshow.com/5dayEnroll More Clients: Clarity Sprint
Health data should tell a patient's complete story. That's where the ICD-11, ICF and ICHI classification systems combine to move beyond basic diagnosis codes to capture a person's daily functioning and the vital interventions they need to thrive. On this episode, we unpack these systems with global health leader Dr. Patricia Saleeby. She explores how they enhance care and outcomes and shares a moving personal story highlighting the impact of holistic care. Find all of our network podcasts on your favorite podcast platforms and be sure to subscribe and like us. Learn more at www.healthcarenowradio.com/listen/
Jessica talks with Kristina Libby, her collaborator for The Cohort: an Ampersand community.Kristina is a storyteller, artist and technology executive originally from Damariscotta, Maine, and now based in New York City. She founded the Floral Heart Project, a COVID memorial initiative purchased by 1-800-Flowers, for which she was awarded a Hero of 2022 and named one of the leading public artists for Social Change. Last year, she wrote and produced her solo show, I Almost Died for This?!, which won the Best Storytelling Show Award at the prestigious United Solo Festival and is heading to the Edinburgh Fringe Festival in 2026.Kristina writes for film and television. With co-creator Tim Cahill, she developed the award-winning television script Penny Starts A Cult, and the television show and indie pilot, Books. She is also a fiction novelist whose work is represented by Sterling Lord Literary. As a humor and non-fiction writer, she's been published in the New Yorker, McSweeney's, the Boston Globe, Salon, Popular Mechanics, and Entrepreneur Magazine.Kristina has served as a fractional Chief Communications Officer for numerous companies and start-ups and holds a Masters degree in International Security.Follow Kristina's work at kristinalibby.com, lightvlight.com, and on Instagram at @kristinamlibby.Check out Kristina's rom-com podcast, Couldn't Be You (Meet Cute Originals).~About The Ampersand Manifesto:What happens when you refuse to choose just one path? On The Ampersand Manifesto, host Jessica Wan sits down with “the most interesting people at the dinner party” – those who have made their mark in two or more seemingly different worlds. Through candid conversations, we explore what it takes to navigate multiple callings, find the connection points between them, and redefine success on our own terms. Together, we're co-creating The Ampersand Manifesto: principles for leading a multi-passionate life.~About your host, Jessica Wan:Executive Coach | Classical Singer | Former Marketing Leader & Tech ExecutiveJessica helps founders and leaders make the invisible visible. With 20+ years of experience scaling brands like Apple, Smule, and the San Francisco Opera, and as an ICF-certified executive coach, she provides the clarity and strategy needed to lead bravely and find fulfillment in a multi-passionate life.Work with Jessica: Book a Free Intro CallJoin The Cohort: An Ampersand Community for Dual-Career ProfessionalsFollow the Journey: @ampersandmanifestoConnect: Jessica's LinkedInListen: Singing Excerpts~CreditsCo-produced and hosted by Jessica WanCo-produced, edited, mixed, and original music by Carlos Schmitt
In this edition of THE INTELLIGENT COMMUNITY: The Soul of the City, Lou speaks with fellow ICF Co-Founder John Jung. In response to requests from ICF podcast listeners the two dive into a robust conversation about the connection between the world's Intelligent Communities, the history of ICF and the world-famous awards program. The two also discuss ICF's ongoing VIP tours and delegations to Asia and in June, Europe. If you want to get "under the hood" about how seemingly average cities become world award winners, this is the conversation for you.
If you want to improve your leadership and identify your blind spots, take Kristiana's free leadership audit here: https://worthytolead.co/audit In this episode, I sit down with Kristiana Corona to unpack what real leadership actually looks like as you grow your business. We talk about the blind spots that hold leaders back, why your team might not be telling you the truth, and how ego can quietly limit your growth. I share my own experiences in leadership, and we break down simple frameworks you can use immediately to become more self-aware, build trust with your team, and lead at a higher level. If you're serious about scaling your business, this is a conversation you need to hear. Kristiana Corona – Bio Kristiana Corona is an ICF-certified executive coach and the founder of Worthy to Lead, where she helps leaders overcome burnout, self-doubt, and leadership blind spots to build thriving teams and meaningful businesses. With over 20 years of experience leading design and technology teams at Fortune 500 companies like Amazon, Target, and USAA, she brings a powerful blend of corporate leadership and coaching expertise. Through her coaching, podcast, and training programs, Kristiana teaches a human-centered leadership approach focused on self-awareness, psychological safety, and sustainable growth. She is passionate about helping leaders develop confidence, think strategically, and lead in a way that empowers both themselves and their teams to perform at the highest level. Connect with Kristiana Website:https://www.worthytolead.co LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristianacorona YouTube (Worthy to Lead):https://www.youtube.com/@Worthy-to-Lead Podcast:https://www.worthytolead.co/podcast Substack / Newsletter:https://worthytolead.substack.com About Justin: Justin Colby is the host of The Entrepreneur DNA and The Science of Flipping podcasts and a best-selling author. He is a serial entrepreneur with over and a seasoned real estate investor with over 20 years of experience. Driven by a passion to help entrepreneurs thrive, Justin created the Entrepreneur DNA community to support business owners in building wealth, systems, and long-term freedom. Through his podcasts, books, education platforms, and hands-on mentorship, he continues to help entrepreneurs scale with clarity and confidence. Connect with Justin: Instagram: @thejustincolby YouTube: Justin Colby TikTok: @justincolbytsof LinkedIn: Justin Colby Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
In this episode of The Passive House Podcast, Matthew Cutler-Welsh speaks with Andreas Goetz about building the Wunderbar Passive House in Orewa, about 40 minutes north of Auckland. Originally from Germany and motivated by comfort and health, Goetz pursued Passive House despite local challenges, choosing a simple rectangular ICF design with imported European triple-glazed windows and integrated exterior shutters to manage overheating without mechanical cooling. The home uses whole-house ventilation, achieved near 0.6 ACH50 airtightness, has low power bills, and added solar projected to pay back in four years, while also earning Homestar V5.https://wunderbar-passive-house.org/ Thank you for listening to the Passive House Podcast! To learn more about Passive House and to stay abreast of our latest programming, visit passivehouseaccelerator.com. And please join us at one of our Passive House Accelerator LIVE! zoom gatherings on Wednesdays.
In this episode of The D Shift, Mardi Winder speaks with transformation coach Pritha Dindayal about how to rebuild your life after divorce without falling back into old patterns that no longer serve you.Pritha shares her deeply personal journey through multiple life transitions, including the end of a long-term relationship, career disruption, and profound personal loss. She speaks openly about the emotional impact of these experiences and how they shaped her understanding of change, resilience, and self-trust.Mardi and Pritha explore a common challenge many people face after divorce: while life circumstances may shift quickly, internal patterns of thinking and decision-making often take longer to evolve. This gap can lead people to make choices from a place of pain, fear, or habit, causing them to repeat cycles even when they are trying to move forward.In this episode Pritha shares:• Why people often repeat patterns after divorce• How emotional pain can influence decision-making• The importance of self-awareness during life transitions• How to recognize and shift limiting beliefs• Practical ways to move forward with intention and clarityThe conversation also highlights the importance of support, whether through coaching or community, in identifying blind spots and creating meaningful change. Pritha encourages listeners to slow down, ask honest questions, and begin making choices that align with who they are becoming, not who they have been.About the Guest:Pritha Dindayal is a Transformation Coach who helps women navigate the in-between phase after something ends — a breakup, divorce, career shift, or identity change. She works with women who look fine on the outside but feel unsettled, stuck, or unsure on the inside. Pritha helps women recognize the invisible patterns they keep defaulting to and learn how to live from who they are now, not who they used to be.For Pritha's gift: https://breakthrough-with-pritha.kit.com/a2ef29790fTo connect with Pritha: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/breakthroughwithpritha/About the HostMardi Winder is an ICF and BCC Executive and Leadership Coach, Certified Divorce Transition Coach, Certified Divorce Specialist (CDS®) and a Credentialed Distinguished Mediator in Texas. She has worked with women in executive, entrepreneur, and leadership roles, navigating personal, life, and professional transitions. She is the founder of Positive Communication Systems, LLC, and host of Real Divorce Talks, a quarterly series designed to provide education and inspiration to women at all stages of divorce. Connect with Mardi on Social Media:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/Divorcecoach4womenLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mardiwinderadams/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/divorcecoach4women/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@divorcecoach4womenThanks for Listening!Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page.Do you have feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below!Subscribe to the PodcastIf you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts. You can also subscribe in your favorite podcast app.Leave us an Apple Podcast ReviewRatings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts.
When building a business, have you ever felt like working harder should be the answer, but the more you push, the more exhausted, misaligned, or stuck you become? In this episode of the #DoorGrowShow, Jason Hull sits down with Sean Patton, former U.S. Army Special Forces Commander, executive coach, and leadership speaker, to unpack what entrepreneurs can learn from military leadership, self-leadership, and mission-driven culture. They discuss the dangers of hustle without recovery, why so many business owners never learn to lead themselves, and how clarity of mission, roles, and outcomes can transform the way a team operates. Jason and Sean also explore why the military is far more collaborative than most people assume, how strong leaders facilitate input without losing ownership, and why mission dictates culture in both combat and business. Along the way, they dive into personal purpose, team alignment, trust in sales, and the mindset shifts required to build a business that creates both impact and freedom instead of burnout. You'll Learn (00:00) Introduction and Guest Background (01:15) Sean Patton's Military and Entrepreneurial Journey (04:16) Leadership in Difficult Situations: Military vs. Business (08:29) Dispelling Myths About Military Leadership (10:35) Collaborative Decision-Making in Special Forces (12:56) The Role of Extreme Ownership in Leadership (16:08) Culture as a Mission-Driven Concept (19:16) Aligning Mission, Culture, and Outcomes (20:51) The Power of Mission and Vision in Business (25:41) The Why Behind Business Success (29:24) The Entrepreneurial Hierarchy of Needs (35:19) Applying Military Clarity to Business Operations (37:31) The Importance of Clear Roles and Responsibilities (41:37) Closing Remarks and Contact Information Quotables "Leadership isn't a title, it's a person you become." "Sometimes the loudest voice in the room isn't the smartest voice in the room." "Mission dictates culture." Resources DoorGrow and Scale Mastermind DoorGrow Academy DoorGrow on YouTube DoorGrowClub DoorGrowLive Transcript Jason Hull (00:01) Five, four, three, two, one. All right. Welcome everybody to the DoorGro show. I'm Jason Hull, the founder and CEO of DoorGro, the world's leading and most comprehensive coaching and consulting firm for long-term residential property management entrepreneurs. For over a decade and a half, we've brought innovative strategies and optimization to the property management industry. At DoorGrow, we are on a mission to transform property management business owners and their businesses. We want to transform the industry, eliminate the BS, build awareness, change perception, expand the market, and help the best property management entrepreneurs win. Now, let's get into the show. All right, so I have an awesome guest today. I'm hanging out here with Sean Patton. Welcome, Sean. I'm going to brag about you a little bit. Thanks for being here. Sean Patton (00:53) Yeah, alright, you go for it. Thanks for having me, man. Jason Hull (00:54) All right. All right. So Sean is a former U.S. Army Special Forces Commander, Meta Performance Executive Coach at Novus Global and a leadership keynote speaker. Sean helps leaders accomplish seemingly impossible and thrilling visions through transformation. This is your bio. As a former U.S. Army Special Forces Commander, Sean brings a rare combination of battlefield tested leadership, real world business ownership. and success back to human performance principles to every stage and coaching session. His work is grounded in one belief, leadership isn't a title, it's a person you become. As an ICF certified executive coach, host of the No Limit Leadership Podcast and author of A Warrior's Mindset, The Six Keys to Greatness. Awesome. Sean, so glad to have you here. Welcome to the show. Sean Patton (01:48) Thanks, man. I'm excited to be here. Jason Hull (01:50) Cool. So Sean, for those listening, I'd love for them to get a little bit of background on you. I gave a little bio, but tell them a little bit about how did you get into entrepreneurism? When did you wake up and go, hey, you know what? I'm an entrepreneur. Sean Patton (02:04) Well, it took a little bit. was maybe a little late to the game. I originally went from a small town in Kansas. I went to the United States Military Academy at West Point, graduated and then spent 10 years as an active duty officer in the army. So I was an infantry officer and then a special forces officer in the special forces group commanding two different Green Beret attachments. So it was a busy time. I feel like I crammed a lifetime of leadership lessons into those 14 years, right? Like West Point is most intense leadership training that our nation has. And then, you know, was a rifle platoon leader and sniper platoon leader in Iraq. Then I was an Afghanistan with my team. So I was doing really difficult things and complex things with elite performing teams. And, you know, despite all of that and 22 months in combat and 30 months to point overseas, I was never really the gun guy or the gear guy. Uh, it was all, it always about the people and the problems that we were solving. And so in 2015, a little before that, I decided that I was going to get out of the military in transition. And I just had this entrepreneurship itch that I wanted to scratch. Plus, you know, I want to check out with this freedom thing that I had been hearing about all these years was all about. And so I decided to try it and. Jason Hull (03:04) Yeah. Yeah. Sean Patton (03:31) It was a rocky start. I had a lot of, I think I had some strengths coming out of the military and those experiences, but also some real gaps. And one of them was a, I think my risk tolerance was so high from things I had been doing. then also Jason Hull (03:33) Yeah. Yeah. Sean Patton (03:59) The answer in the military so often, at least in the units I was in was when things got hard, right? When the, when the darkness came, when it seemed like the weight was unmanageable, the answer was just go harder. Like, you know, like the mission is going to end, you're going to redeploy, like you, know, the sun's going to come up, just keep going, keep going, keep going. And what I didn't appreciate was when you get into the entrepreneurship space is that in the military, even in those units, there was this like, Jason Hull (04:11) Okay, yeah. Yeah. Sean Patton (04:28) mechanism around us almost protecting us. Like they had honed us into this machine that could push ourselves to these extreme limits. But they told us when it was time to turn it off and when it was time to refit and when it was time to recover. And then I got in entrepreneur space and when things got difficult and you know, I made some really bad financial decisions which we can get into and all of that. I found myself with all of that weight with the only answer I had was just go harder. Jason Hull (04:52) Yeah. Yeah. Sean Patton (04:59) And so three years later, I was in the hospital ⁓ and I had stress hives and my appendix almost burst and all these health issues and going through my first bankruptcy or my only bankruptcy, but bankruptcy after three years. And so it was a rough start to the whole thing. I had to learn a lot of lessons about myself in that. Jason Hull (05:07) Wow. Yeah, yeah. And I think, you know, early stage entrepreneurism, there's some similar patterns I've noticed because, you know, I've talked to thousands of entrepreneurs. I've gone through this sort of journey. in the beginning, yeah, we do a lot of stupid stuff. Like we make mistakes and that's part of learning. You know, we believe weird things like I just like your first hire should be a clone of yourself. If I could just clone myself, I call it the clone myth. Like we believe like You know, we think we can do everything ourselves. it'd be cheaper if I just figure out how to do it myself. If I just read the right book, watch the right YouTube video. And so we do dumb stuff like we don't get support. We don't get help. We don't get mentors. like it. had to things had to get really hard before I started getting mentors, getting help, getting coaches, getting support. And I had to be humble, you know, before I was willing to do that. And. And yeah, and so I see, I see this, you know, a lot of people play out this journey and then early stage as an entrepreneur. Yeah. We're, we're, it's almost like the hustle's glamorized. And so we go through this process of like, I got a hustle. I got to work harder. That's what you do if you own a company, if you're a CEO, if you're a boss. And so you just burn yourself out. I remember I was at end of a sales call trying to wrap it up. I was in so much pain because I like I think I'd slipped some sort of disc or was bulging in my back. And I was like by the end of the call and doing this call, I was laying on the floor and I ended the call and I was like, and I was in so much pain. I wasn't able to work and had to lay down for like two weeks. Yeah. And then I realized because I hadn't been eating, I'd been just working. hadn't been sleeping. Sean Patton (07:04) my gosh. Jason Hull (07:11) very well, I'd been just working. I thought I just need to work harder, work faster. And I didn't realize that probably I was like probably operating at like 10 % of my effectiveness mentally. I was being stupid. And I thought, I just need to work harder, I gotta hustle. And I wasn't taking care of myself. And then that's when I realized, if I don't take care of my body, I don't have a vehicle to achieve stuff or to get results. And I'm not even really present. Sean Patton (07:23) Thank Jason Hull (07:40) when I'm there with people because I'm hungry and I'm tired and I'm I'm everywhere else and I haven't even produced the, or my brain hasn't had a chance to clean itself like it does every night. And I haven't gotten food to fuel my brain. I don't have all the chemicals my brain needs. I'm lacking dopamine and serotonin and GABA and like, I'm just, I'm an absolute mess, right? And I see people do this all the time, all the time. Sean Patton (08:05) It's so true. I, in my lens, how I look through that is through a leadership lens. And I learned in the military so many great things about leading others. And as I look back at it, what I had to learn in entrepreneurship, what you're kind of talking about is like, I never really had to master leading myself. Jason Hull (08:31) Yeah. Sean Patton (08:32) I never had to look at myself as like, how am going to lead myself? Cause the way you mentioned there, like I would never treat one of my soldiers or one of my employees or have an expectation of them the way I was, I was treating myself. And so it's like, how would you. Jason Hull (08:41) Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't do I wouldn't I wouldn't push my spouse to be like this. I'd be like, hey, come on, clean more. Work harder. Do this. Right. Yeah. Then marriage would be over real fast. I wouldn't like I wouldn't do that to my kids. Come on, go. Yeah. But to ourselves, we can sometimes be a cruel leader. Right. Can you dispel a myth? Because, you know, I got I kind of got a sense of this. I've never been in the military. And God bless you. Thank you for your service. I appreciate that. Sean Patton (08:55) Yeah. Jason Hull (09:15) ⁓ but I've realized I've been listening to, ⁓ Chaka Willa, Willick and Leaf, whatever their, their book, ⁓ the dichotomy of leadership. And I had this belief that in the military, I think a lot of people maybe that haven't been involved in it have this perception. Military, just, you either give orders or you take orders. It's rigid. There's no thinking. You just were told what to do. And, ⁓ you know, I've kind of gotten a very different picture of that. that there's a lot of decisions and there's planning and know, this is lives are on the line and it's painted a very different picture. Can you just touch on that? Cause I think some people here, you've got this background in the military and to you, it's just, you know this stuff cause you had lived it. But for those that have never been in the military, what advantage did that give you in business and how is that different that maybe people perceive it? Sean Patton (10:09) It's a great question. I do think that there is this idea from either whether it's like movies about basic training or, you know, the, or, know, about like submarines. Yeah. You just shut up and go. Right. And, know, there is in basic training or when you're, I would say when you're being transformed from a free citizen to a soldier, there is a bit of a breaking down of Jason Hull (10:16) in movies. Yeah. You blindly follow and you're told what to do. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Sean Patton (10:39) some of that, that needs to come back. But then as you build that foundation of like, when it's time to go, I go ⁓ and I have some discipline and I can, can integrate with the unit, let's say. ⁓ Then you start getting more and more responsibility. And especially as you move up in the military, you become, I mean, it's not that long, like two or three years later, even the regular military, regular army, you're going to be a team leader. So you're going to be a leader. And a of those kids are like 20, 19, and they're in charge of three people. And so they're no longer just like, it would make no sense to have someone to stand here and like, what do I need to do? This is what need to do. ⁓ That's not, not, that wouldn't like, that doesn't work in a company and that wouldn't work in a unit. And so there needs to be input on each side. And then especially when you get into like the Navy SEALs, like Jaco was talking about, or in a special forces team. mean, the planning, I was a facilitator of mission plan. Jason Hull (11:11) Yeah. Yeah. Sean Patton (11:38) but I was by no means the smartest person in the room and it was a very collaborative experience. And so my job as the commander of a 12 man special forces ODA was to receive the mission that we had been given. And that mission doesn't come down and tell us this is how you're going to do it. It says, here's the effect we need to have in the area. Here's the questions we have. And then it was up for us to sit down and I had, you know, I have a warrant officer who's Jason Hull (11:43) Hmm. Sean Patton (12:08) trained in human intelligence to a level of a CIA operative. I have an intelligence officer or an intelligence sergeant who does the same work the NSA does. My average age on my team is 30 years old, people with multiple combat experiences. I remember one time I was in Lebanon and one of my younger soldiers, Greenbright, we were talking about why there was this conflict going on and how we were trying to influence it. And I said, well, you know, it's probably because of this rift between this Hezbollah and the Shia sect and the Sunni sect of Muslims in the area. And, you my 26 year old soldier is like, actually, sir, that's incorrect. This conflict in the Becca Valley actually goes back hundreds of years. It's actually over like water rights. mean, like that's the level of conversation we're having in the planning session. And it is very much a collaborative Jason Hull (13:00) Yeah. Sean Patton (13:07) ⁓ discussion and we come up with multiple courses of action, but here's, I will say where it kind of converges to, ⁓ the lesson that comes from the military and maybe an issue, this is where the people maybe have this misconception, but I think it's an important one for when it comes to the, company is that at the end of the day, kind of go back to Jaco's first bunk on book, honestly, extreme ownership, has to be someone in charge as the commander is my dis Jason Hull (13:11) Yeah. Sean Patton (13:35) was my decision. was like, okay, I've heard everyone's input. We're going with, this is how we're going to do that. And immediately, because everyone had given their input, even if we didn't pick what their choice was, it was, okay, Roger that. Now we're going to execute that as if it was our own. And so that level of ownership when it comes to planning and execution is where we turn and say, okay, now we're on the same page. the rich discussion and input that happens before that is an important job. And that's why I think whether it's in the military or in the civilian world, as a leader of an organization like that, you need to be a master facilitator. It's not your ideas. It's how can we be the composer of the group in front of us? And if someone is taking over, how do we calm them down? How do we... Jason Hull (14:20) Yes, yeah. Sean Patton (14:31) recognize when someone's voice is being stomped out and their valuable input isn't being contributed. You know, like how do you handle that and get the idea so that the best concept comes to the top and then get buy-in to execute. Jason Hull (14:37) Bye. I mean, what I'm hearing is like, you know, this picture you're painting is you've got this team of specialists. They each bring some value and some wisdom and some knowledge to the table. They're experts at this one particular craft. They see everything through a different lens and you're getting feedback from all these different lenses. And then as a leader, you have to decide which things are valid, which things do we incorporate? And, know, and it's up to each individual that's a specialist to really put some pressure on the leader to say, this is significant, this is important. And it's up to the leader to make sure that, you know, maybe that quieter voice, but to recognize what is significant if they're not making it present, because sometimes the loudest voice in the room isn't the smartest voice in the room. And so, yeah, so that's fascinating. And, business is a lot like that, but a lot of business owners, they don't even run their teams like that. They think it's a dictatorship. They mistakenly think that's how the military works. They're like, I'm the dictator and I have all the best ideas and I'm smarter than all of you. And they do, they end up as the emperor with no clothes. Cause everybody in the team were like, yes boss, we don't want to get fired. Sean Patton (15:56) Absolutely. And that's why I think that the, main job of, let's say that entrepreneur, that business owner, that even commander, right. Is your job is to craft the vision of what you're trying to create. And yes, the outcome and clarity of outcome, clarity of vision of why does this company, why do we exist and what impact are we trying to have in the world? And once people are bought into that and aligned on that. Jason Hull (16:09) The outcome, clarity of outcome. Okay. Sean Patton (16:26) then we can have a great and rich discussion on the how, the strategy. Jason Hull (16:30) Got it. that, you know, that's, so now we're talking about culture, right? Which is the foundation before we get into tactics, we have to have culture and the military, you have all kind of chosen into a particular culture. There's a set of beliefs and that's a foundation. It's kind of like, you might maybe even take it for granted, but the military has that and a lot of businesses don't. They don't have that set culture where it's defined. Sean Patton (16:57) So can I, what I will say is that this is true in the military and I'll give you some military examples just because they're maybe interesting to your audience and then we can talk business is that mission dictates culture. So, know, for example, you might have, you know, especially a lot of the movies, right? You see like the Marines, That's stereotypical. We'll be super stereotypical right now. Marines mission, their core mission is secure the beach to land ships. Jason Hull (17:04) Yeah, I love this. Yeah. Yeah, OK. Mm-hmm. Okay. Sean Patton (17:27) So if you notice, are a bit like, just go get in line, full frontal assault, you're getting off ships on an uncovered area and you're just massive violence of action. That's how you win that battle, okay? So they need to have a certain kind of mentality and I'm generous. Okay. A special forces team will operate by, with and through an indigenous force. So we're a US sponsored insurgent. we've got, I will go on target with. Jason Hull (17:42) Yes. Sean Patton (17:54) 10 Americans and 300 Afghani commandos. Like that dictates a certain mission, right? And so ⁓ the difference between the Marines and then maybe the Navy SEALs who are operating and their job is to take over a ship underway with 30 SEALs that all live together, work together. They know each other in their ear, like synchronize their precise, you know, cause you've got to be right. You're, you're firing weapons inside of a ship corridor. Like Jason Hull (17:57) Okay. Yeah. Sean Patton (18:23) You have to be so precise. I can't do that on the ground with 300 Afghanis running around. I'm just like guns pointed this way. You know, like we've got to you've to be much more flexible and and how you plan that and how you think about success and all that is a different animal than the Marines who are on you're trying to storm a beach together. A SEAL team is operating with 30 people who've worked closely together and then. where you've got 12 of us trying to work by with and through a different unit to do a different thing. Like the culture inside each one of those units would be completely different. In the Marines, you might have a bit more like go here, do that. Yes, sir. How, how jump high, jump faster. You know, you might need that because that's you need to storm a beach. You made, you need very precise, very black and white, right? And wrong, like precision to take down a ship with 30 people. you need to be very clear about larger intent and what is the big thing we're trying to operate here and how do we control sort of an uncontrollable mass and chaos to operate a Green Break team. If you took the culture of each one of those, if you gave that mission to a bunch of Marines who are just like, where do I go? Where do need to blow up? And you're trying to like do a sensitive political operation with 300 indigenous, it would be a disaster. Jason Hull (19:29) Yeah. Sean Patton (19:46) And if you tried to set the precision of, cause we tried to do this sometimes, like you would work with an indigenous force. If you tried to set the precision and standard of a US special operator, whether it's a SEAL or a Green Beret on this indigenous force, you drive yourself crazy. Like it's not going to happen. All right. And so all of those different units have different missions. And so they all have different cultures. And to your point on your company, if you're not clear on missions, If you're not clear on the vision and like why you exist and what you're trying to do, you will end up chasing your tail on culture because you'll just start grabbing like every other leadership book and culture. just like, what about this works here? This works here. This works here. Instead of saying, what are we trying to accomplish and what is the optimal culture for our mission set? Jason Hull (20:36) I love that. Yeah, one of our guiding documents at DoorGrow is our, we call it our client-centric mission statement. And it talks about who we want to serve in detail, how we will help them, what our goal is, our plan, and then what kind of the long-term sort of vision that maybe we'll never achieve, but it's the goal we're striving for. And this is what we coach our clients on getting defined because it creates culture. Then we have our how we do things. That's the company core values. And then we get into personal why statements for the business owner, business why statements. Creating all of this is, we call this the culture materials. There's like six key elements that I coach them on getting in place that help kind of make the culture visible to everybody on the team. And you're right, mission dictates culture. I love this idea because the mission of the business which most people mistakenly think is just to make money, is actually to provide some sort of value and to solve a real problem in the marketplace. And that mission, whether you're good at it or not, and the team are conscious of it or not, and you're focused on it or not, dictates whether or not you have good culture that actually achieves outcomes. That makes a lot of sense. Sean Patton (21:53) Yeah, absolutely. Cause yeah, I love that you have that structure and I love how you also tied that down to personal why statements because this is another leadership issue that I see with a lot of entrepreneurs. We're big companies, honestly too, is that there is this assumption that you've accepted this job description and here's what matters to the company and therefore what matters to maybe me as your leader or boss or the division or the company is also the most important thing to you as an individual or like the reason you're here is not really explored. So I think one of the most critical conversations you can have, and it sounds like you have a structured format for that, which is fantastic, is just sitting down with each member of your team, like, why are you here? What matters to you? Because often, right, I'm sure you've had this, I've had employees where you assume a salesperson, the most important thing is compensation, right? It's how much money you can make. And that's great. Maybe it is, but then it's actually like, well, yeah, that's important. And also, you know, my, my youngest is a senior in high school and this is the last baseball season we have with, and man, the games start at four and it's so hard for me to get to games at four because you have me work till five. And it's like, if I could just make those baseball games, that would be amazing. And then all of sudden, Once you know like what matters to them and why they're doing this, then you can adjust and say, cool, how do we align what matters to you? What your personal why statement as you mentioned it and the company why statement. And now you've got alignment. And when you align those two things where what matters most to them contributes to what matters most to the company, you just, create transformative effects. Jason Hull (23:36) Thank Yeah, the big challenge I've noticed, the biggest transformation I can get is to help the business owner get clear on their why. Because when the business owner isn't clear on why they do what they do, they end up doing the wrong things in the business. Because you're the business owner, you can do anything in the business. And so some business owners are like, well, I have to do the accounting. I'm the business owner. Do you really? If you hate accounting, you probably shouldn't be doing the accounting. You're not the right personality fit for that, which means you're actually probably not the best person to do that. So some business owners love sales. Some love accounting. Some hate it. Some love operations. Some are really bad at that. And so if we can get clear on their personal why, and then we can look at their role and see if their role is helping align with that, we can then reorganize the entire business. But most business owners, the first team they build is they transition from solopreneur to having a team. I find is a mess. The first team they have is built around the wrong person. And it's kind of like they're like, I'm this shape puzzle piece, but it's not really them. They're like, I'm doing accounting. I'm doing this and a little bit this. And then they're like, now I'm going to get team members. I'm going to puzzle pieces around this misshapen puzzle piece. And they fit that puzzle piece, but that's not even me. So I hate being in it. I'm uncomfortable in my own business. In property management, this is where they get to two to 400 doors. call it the second sand trap or the team sand trap. They've made it through that transition of finally having a team from being a solopreneur and they're the most miserable they've ever been in their business. And adding more doors makes their life personally worse, not better. Because adding more doors just means they're working harder. They're doing more work instead of getting the right support and the right team, because they didn't build the right team around the right person from the beginning. So if I get them clear on their why, They're like, my gosh, I'm a circle. I'm not a square. I need to build this whole different team around me. And then like when I got clarity on this many years ago, I think within a month I had fired like half my team. I changed everything. I changed the type of clients I was willing to work with. I changed my business model. Like I didn't want to tolerate certain things anymore because you know, I woke up one morning and I was like, I would rather stream Netflix and avoid growing my business. even though I need money, then deal with the clients I'm dealing with at that time. I'm like, why is this so, why am I so out of alignment? Then I saw Simon's the next start with why, like presentation on the golden circle, why, how, what? And I was like, what? And I'm like, ⁓ what's my why? And so I went to, I've like, I need to figure this out. And my personal why is to inspire others to love true principles. What that means is I love finding the better way to do things. I love learning what works. and sharing it with other people, I would do that for free for fun. If you're listening to this podcast, I'm doing it for free for fun right now. Like I love this. I love learning what's working for other people. And then I get to turn around and share that with clients and I get paid to do that. That's crazy. And that's the role I get to live in my business. And so my business, it feeds me my why. Sean Patton (26:47) Yeah, it's all true. Jason Hull (26:55) And so our why statement of door goes to transform property management, business owners and their businesses. So we get to create transformation. Everybody on my team buys into this vision. We all celebrate when our clients are winning. And so that's the culture we've created in the business. That's our mission, transformation. And we know if we transform the business owner, we transform the business. We transform the business, we transform the team. We transform the business and the team. We transform hundreds, maybe thousands of tenants and rental property owners lives. There's this ripple effect and that's exciting to me. We're having impact, right? And so the thing I can get on a sales call and confidently say to a property management business owner, here's why you should trust me because if I'm selfish in getting what I want out of life, my why, my business is going to give you what you need and you are going to win. And we can always trust motives. And so I call that the golden bridge. The golden bridge is find out the prospects why. Sean Patton (27:31) Yeah. Jason Hull (27:54) and you build a bridge to it, the bridge is the business. It's what gives you both what you want. That's where the deal happens. And there's my why, there's the prospect's why, the business why is what connects us. And that's the golden bridge. And if I can relate that formula verbally, all the objections drop by the wayside, because the only real objection is, I don't trust you. If they're like, what about these features? And what do you do with my property? And what do you do? How do you handle evictions? All they're saying is blah, blah, blah, I don't trust you yet. And so that's, I just teach my clients the golden bridge formula and that we have, and then they become great at selling because sales is about trust. That's it. Sean Patton (28:35) Yeah, I love that, ⁓ that framework. And also I want to call out an important mindset shift that I know I struggled with. And I think a lot of other owners struggle with it. You mentioned there, which is this belief that if we're not suffering, Jason Hull (28:57) ⁓ yeah. It's like suffering's a badge of honor in entrepreneurism. Sean Patton (29:02) Yeah, like if we had, if we're actually enjoying what we're doing, if we're having time off, if we're like, you mentioned, we're taking care of ourselves and we're like inspired and energetic and it doesn't feel that hard, we must be doing something wrong or being lazy or we're not doing enough. And so then we're like constantly pushing ourselves to this point of, uh, I need to be overwhelmed. I need to be, and when things are going well, we'll crash the plane. Jason Hull (29:11) ⁓ yeah. Yeah, yeah. Sean Patton (29:30) just so we can feel the pain again, so we feel like we're being productive. And so I love the fact that you, sounds like you sort of, we're running into that or identified that. And now the shift that it sounds like you've made around your mindset is like, what if this could be fun? Jason Hull (29:32) Yeah. Yeah. What if you actually love doing what you were doing in your business? I'll tell you what happens because I hope a lot of people do this. You make way more money when you focus on the money instead of the mission and you're not focused on your why you make way less money. But it's money is easy when you are focused on helping people get what they want. You're outward focus and it's you're being selfish enough to focus on your actual purpose. Money is not your purpose. If I say, do you want money? There's a whole level of depth beneath that. Right. And so, yeah, but you're right. Like we're struggling, we're suffering, and it's like a badge of honor. Look at my hustle culture. And I'm like, it's so hard. And then we start succeeding and we get, the world gives us feedback because the world isn't supportive of entrepreneurs. The world cares about safety and certainty more than freedom. Entrepreneurs care about freedom and fulfillment more. Sean Patton (30:24) Yes. Jason Hull (30:48) than safety and security. And that's why we start businesses. That's a risk. But as soon as we start winning, what do we hear from people? ⁓ it must be nice. Sean Patton (31:00) Yeah. Jason Hull (31:01) it must be nice that you have this. Jason got his cyber truck or he's in his million dollar house. It must be nice. ⁓ know, and so you hear things like this and you're like, did I do something wrong? maybe I need to be small because I'm making some people feel uncomfortable because, know, it's to be a struggle. I can't show that I'm having success because it's got to be hard. I didn't I didn't work hard enough to earn this. Maybe it's that feeling or, know, it has to Sean Patton (31:20) Yeah. Or enjoyment, yeah, it's gotta be. Yeah, I think there's a lot of that. I know my relationship as I've reflected back with, with money, um, with success is, know, I grew up with a, with a single mom and she was phenomenal. I mean, raised me, worked full time as a waitress and bar center to put herself through undergrad and grad school to be a school psychologist, to work with special needs kids so that she could impact the world and take care of me. But in that, yeah. Yeah. Jason Hull (31:31) Hard. Yeah. And love was working hard. That's what you saw. Like she was hustling. You knew she loved you. She was serving. Yeah. Sean Patton (32:02) Absolutely. And so I would say there's two sides of that coin. One, what I tell people all the time is like, when you see your mom do that or that's your leader, like mediocrity is no longer acceptable. That's one thing I took away from it. then the, but there was this idea when we say we drove through nice neighborhoods or we saw big houses or we saw people with money. was like, ⁓ those it's like those people. Like it was very much put into, I feel like subconsciously that Jason Hull (32:10) Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Sean Patton (32:31) I think that it was just a matter of like, ⁓ there's this idea of that good people or hardworking, working class folks like us, we're doing sort of this noble thing and these other people either just got lucky or they're just different or they were born into it or, it's this idea of like, we're not those people. Jason Hull (32:49) Or even worse, were unethical or hurt people to get there. Those rich people, those evil billionaires and those evil millionaires, and nobody should have that kind of money. They must have hurt people to get there and yeah, yeah, yeah. Sean Patton (32:54) 100 exactly. And so that was like a story, even a money story and success story that over the last 10 years as an entrepreneur with different businesses, and I was, and I was as a coach of leaders inside companies, ⁓ and, business owners that I've had to overcome. And I have found myself to your point, sort of sabotaging or questioning when I do have certain levels of success or impact and downplaying it almost because I have this. Jason Hull (33:17) Yeah. Sean Patton (33:34) subconscious belief that like, wait a if I make this amount of money or if I get to do these things is like, am I, as you said, am I deserving of that? Or is that even like an ethical thing to be able to do? I need to suffer more and drive myself back to the suffering conversation. Jason Hull (33:40) Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the feedback we get from the world as entrepreneurs. So one of my frameworks is the four, I call it the four reasons for starting a business. The first reason is fulfillment in life. That should be primary. We should be getting fulfillment in life, living our why, living our purpose. Number two, it should be more and more freedom. The business should give us more and more freedom. Now, we initially as entrepreneurs, when we start our journey, we make more and more money. And the reason we want more money is we think it will give us more fulfillment and more freedom. But the default is, I've seen this over and over again, I live this, is we make more and more money and we have less fulfillment and freedom in our business initially. Until we get clear on this, because we're aiming for the wrong goal, we're aiming for money, not the four reasons. Once we have fulfillment and freedom though, once we figure that out, we're like, why am I doing this? I need to shift things. And we get alignment there, then we want to benefit others. That's contribution. And that's actually why businesses exist. Businesses exist to contribute to the marketplace something of value, solve real problems. Otherwise, they're just snake oil and they're stealing people's money. And so true entrepreneurs, like they might start with just the motive of money, which maybe isn't the highest motive. But if they're going to be successful, eventually they graduate usually to contribution. because that's the only thing that actually works in the marketplace. The marketplace is brutal to anything else. So it's almost like God tricks us into becoming good people by getting us to start businesses, you know? And so the fourth reason, once we have contribution, we have fulfillment, freedom, we get to, we're living a life where we feel like we're benefiting others, making a difference. And we love, we can't have those first three without the fourth, which is support. There's no, Sean Patton (35:22) Yeah, yeah. Jason Hull (35:41) business owner that I know of that enjoys doing every hat, wearing every hat in their own business. And so we have to have a good team. We have to have a good support. Just like you were talking about in the, in the military, like if you're going on a mission, you need some specialists that have expertise in different areas to make this work. Not everybody has the same personality, the same skills, the same intellectual abilities. And so we need other people if we want to stay in those first three. We can't have fulfillment, freedom and contribution if we're doing stuff we don't enjoy. That's the opposite. And so we have to have team members. And that's why we build the vehicle of a business instead of just be a freelancer and do it all on our own. And that's the, so those are my four reasons. Now there is the fifth reason. The fifth reason is what everybody else wants. And we want this too as entrepreneurs, but the fifth reason is safety and security. This is what makes us different. Everybody else on the planet wants all five of these things. But most people on the planet play safety and security first. They're like, forget your freedom. We saw this during the pandemic. It's like, fuck your freedom. Like, we don't care about your freedom. I want to feel safe. Make everyone feel safe. Force it on everybody. Make everybody feel safe first. And then freedom would be a really nice afterthought. And then entrepreneurial people were like, this what crazy planet am I on? Sean Patton (37:04) Mm-hmm. Jason Hull (37:08) Am I hanging out with aliens? Like, I don't understand. I thought we were in the land of the free home of the brave here in the US and like, what's going on? And we have all these different basic hierarchy of needs, but the hierarchy is different for entrepreneurs versus everybody else. And there's nothing wrong with that. Like I need people on my team that don't want to be the business owner. Sean Patton (37:21) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah Jason Hull (37:32) You know, I need them to be with me and enjoy it, right? And they need somebody that like me, that's crazy, that's willing to take some of the risks. They just don't realize they're working for a crazy person, right? So that values freedom more than safety. So yeah, but look, I love safety and security too. That's why I process documentation. I have systems that makes me feel safe. If I lose somebody, right? So we need all of these things. So I love, I love that you were pointing that out. ⁓ Where should we go from here? Sean Patton (37:42) Hahaha Yeah. Jason Hull (38:01) Like we're almost at the time and I love hearing the ⁓ how the military works because the military works its life or death. It's it's ⁓ and there's clear objectives and I feel like in business things get so fuzzy and there's so much BS. And when we hear it in terms of military, we're like, ⁓ duh, this would translate. I should do my business this way. Sean Patton (38:04) Yeah. Yeah, I think it's a good way to wrap in last couple of minutes is like, what are some key points there? think that what the military does, because not everything in the military is from personal experience translates perfectly over, right? But that there's certain things. Yeah, it's all the same. There are some similarities. I think that if there's an overarching word of why, and it's just true, Jason Hull (38:43) Sure, it's not all exactly the same, yeah. Sean Patton (38:58) military, good military units are able to accomplish the seemingly impossible tasks ⁓ is clarity, like extreme clarity and no nonsense around no clarity. And so whether that's clarity of mission, clarity of roles and responsibilities, who's doing what when and what are they committing to? There's so much... ⁓ Jason Hull (39:05) Yeah. Hmm. Sean Patton (39:26) sort of expectation or unsaid agreements that happen inside business, where we make assumptions about what we think other people understand or what they think success is or roles is. Instead of saying here's our clear mission, here's our outcomes, here's my role and responsibility, here's what I'm gonna own. I mean, the amount of times I work with a company or entrepreneur and we go in and they say, yeah, here are like the 12 things that are important before the next meeting, but there's no one's name next to it with a date. Jason Hull (39:28) Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Like who? Who's responsible? Who's accountable? Yeah. Sean Patton (39:55) It's like, Hey, what'd we talk about last meeting? Who's doing that? Yeah. Who's taking, who's accountable. So I think they're very clear about like what role and responsibility do you have so that you can lean into that. So clarity around roles, responsibilities, clarity around mission, then clarity around, you know, end state. Like what does success look like for this? Those are. Jason Hull (40:14) What's the definition of done on this? How do we know this is accomplished? I love it. Sean Patton (40:19) Mm-hmm. And so I think if companies could really take that approach of clarity in those three areas, it could be transformative. Jason Hull (40:29) Totally agree. One of my mentors that really taught me operational stuff was a mentor named Alex Sharpen. And Alex would talk about outcome transparency and accountability. He was like a three-legged stool. And he said, there has to be a clear outcome. Like, who's responsible ⁓ is also, right? that's like outcome transparency, accountability. Accountability is who? What are we trying to accomplish is the outcome. And then what's the scoreboard? How do we measure success? How do we know if it's done? And he said he would watch billionaires and follow them around and they go into a meeting. They didn't know what was going on, what was being discussed, but there was a problem. He would just walk in and he would ask three questions and the problems were solved. Cool. What are we trying to accomplish? Okay. Who's responsible for this? Awesome. How do we know if it's done or not? And it was that simple. And then you walk out of the room, everyone's like, man, he's magic. So glad we have him. What a great leader. And I love it. Clarity is massive. one of the things, like a lot of businesses don't even have the clear role or job descriptions defined for their existing team members. If I went to, anyone listen to this, I went to your team member, ask yourself this question. And I asked them, what are you responsible to achieve on a weekly, monthly basis? What is your job? Sean Patton (41:27) Yeah. Jason Hull (41:52) What are your roles? What are you supposed to do? And then I went to the business owner. I went to you listening and said, what is their responsibility? What are these? I usually get two very different set of directions. But if you come to my team or hopefully some of my clients that I'm coaching and you ask that question, they would say, cool, let me pull up my document that is super clear that we review regularly. This is it. We've agreed on this. We're literally on the same page. And it's that simple. And so they know what outcomes they're responsible for. And the outcomes are more important than the responsibilities. So on our job descriptions, we have results. What results or expected accomplishments are there? so little things like that. One of the things I love saying lately is, this is one of my little phrases, is any action we take without clarity is a little bit wrong. Sometimes a lot, a lot wrong. Sean Patton (42:21) Yes. Mmm, I love that. I love that. Jason Hull (42:51) Yeah, and so that's dangerous. like the last thing you want to do in on the battlefield is just rush out with a lot of gusto guns a blazing with no plan and a lack of clarity. But in business, sometimes that's how we operate for shooting from the hip. We're like, Woo, yeah. Sean Patton (43:08) Yeah, it is. That's the thing is because of the mission that the military has, the culture demands extreme clarity. And because of the mission of businesses, people can get away with leakage and mistakes because, you know, it's not life or death. But if you treat your business like that, that's how you get to the next level of performance. Jason Hull (43:18) you Love it. Cool. Sean, awesome having you on. Always fun to chat with you. We have some good conversations. ⁓ This is really interesting to me. I love hearing how ⁓ this all works and the contrast with military and whatnot. You brought up some really great points that really made me think. How can people get in touch with you? Tell them what you do real quick and all that. Sean Patton (43:40) Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. So you wanna, my personal site is SeanPatton.me. Super easy to find. I'm very active on LinkedIn. And I am a part of a larger firm called Novus Global, where we focus on creating meta performance leaders. A lot of the transformation we're talking about today. So yeah, LinkedIn and my website, easiest ways to get me. also the host of the No Limit Leadership Podcast. Please check that out and. Jason, you have a scheduled day. I'm excited to have you on that podcast in the future. Jason Hull (44:29) Yeah, I'm excited to be on that. That'll be great. It's been great having you. Cool. Thanks for being here. All right. Yeah, absolutely. 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In this episode of The D Shift, Mardi Winder speaks with Serena Sevits about how to make smart financial decisions during and after divorce, and how financial planning can support both stability and personal growth during major life transitions.Serena shares how her diverse background in business ownership and leadership led her into financial strategy, where she now helps individuals create personalized financial plans that align with their unique circumstances and goals. Her approach focuses not just on numbers, but on understanding the emotional and psychological relationship people have with money.Mardi and Serena explore how divorce and other life changes can create uncertainty around finances, often leading to overwhelm or avoidance. Serena emphasizes that financial planning does not have to be restrictive or intimidating. Instead, it can be a flexible and empowering process that helps individuals regain control and build confidence in their decisions.This episode covers:• How to approach financial planning after divorce• Why financial decisions are often influenced by emotions and mindset• Simple ways to start building a financial plan without feeling overwhelmed• How small changes can lead to meaningful financial progress• Why personalized financial strategies work better than generic adviceThe conversation also addresses the hesitation many people feel when making financial decisions and the importance of seeking guidance early. Serena highlights that financial support is not just for those with significant assets, but for anyone who wants to create clarity and direction in their financial life.About the Guest:Serena Sevits is a passionate financial strategist dedicated to empowering individuals and businesses to achieve their financial goals. Serena specializes in crafting personalized financial strategies that align with her clients' unique needs and aspirations, regardless of their financial status. Her approach is rooted in a deep commitment to education and transparency, ensuring that every client feels confident and informed about their financial journey. Serena's expertise and genuine care make her a trusted partner for those seeking to navigate the complexities of personal and business finance. With a mission to inspire financial literacy and success, Serena is driven by the belief that everyone deserves the opportunity to live a life of financial freedom and fulfillment.For Serena's gift: https://serenadoinglife.com/cheatsheetTo connect with Serena: Website: https://www.serenadoinglife.com LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/serenasevits Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/serenadoinglife YouTube: https://www.facebook.com/share/1JvmWXhGgk/?mibextid=wwXIfrAbout the HostMardi Winder is an ICF and BCC Executive and Leadership Coach, Certified Divorce Transition Coach, Certified Divorce Specialist (CDS®) and a Credentialed Distinguished Mediator in Texas. She has worked with women in executive, entrepreneur, and leadership roles, navigating personal, life, and professional transitions. She is the founder of Positive Communication Systems, LLC, and host of Real Divorce Talks, a quarterly series designed to provide education and inspiration to women at all stages of divorce. Connect with Mardi on Social Media:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/Divorcecoach4womenLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mardiwinderadams/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/divorcecoach4women/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@divorcecoach4womenThanks for Listening!Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page.Do you have feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below!Subscribe to the PodcastIf you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts. You can also subscribe in your favorite podcast app.Leave us an Apple Podcast ReviewRatings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts.
With increasing regularity, I see posts on social media criticising coaching as a pyramid scheme or defending it against such accusations. As people tend to do, they paint a nuanced field with a very broad brush, whichever side they support. In this episode of The Gentle Rebel Podcast, I discuss a recent argument I came across. It illustrates how the term ‘coaching’ is understood and used in two distinct ways. “I’m not sure I’ll ever understand the ‘coaches teaching coaches to coach is a pyramid scheme’ situation. It’s literally not… I want to be coached on my business by a coach. Who else would I want to learn this from?!” https://youtu.be/b86vKrEfSUY A Misunderstanding? The framing of that post somewhat mischaracterises the argument it’s pushing back against. The issue isn’t “coaches teaching coaches to coach.” I mean, who better to become a teacher than the person who knows how to do the thing they are teaching? I’ve not seen anyone seriously complaining about that. Rather, when people refer to coaches coaching coaches to coach more coaches to become coaches, they are describing something different. Having gone through an 18-month ICF-affiliated training programme myself, I often watch parts of the industry with my head in my hands. Not least because it is still unregulated and anyone can call themselves a coach. So, it’s a world I have a love/hate relationship with. This episode hopefully demonstrates why I am sticking around (for now). But also why I have great concern about the way things are heading. And I would suggest it’s incumbent on ethical coaches to take the accusations seriously and help people get a sense of these distinctions. When Coaching is Not a Pyramid Scheme Of course, it’s not a pyramid if a less experienced coach goes to a more experienced one for coaching. Someone builds experience over time. Another coach comes to them to address or develop something specific within their business or practice. Even if that coach specialises in working with coaches, those coaches will have their own ways of working, usually with clients across a range of situations. For example, coaches work with people in sport, business, the arts, career development, etc. This is how knowledge and skills spread within a field. Very normal. Coaching can be really valuable as a structured partnership that helps the client make progress on their terms. Not by telling them what to do, but by helping them identify their desired outcome. And then asking questions to help them get clear on the steps they want to take as well as preparing for potential obstacles they might anticipate along the way. When Coaching DOES Look Like a Pyramid Scheme What, then, is this pyramid of coaches coaching coaches to coach coaches? How is it different? Sixteen years ago, when I started my blog and podcast, I remember many online entrepreneurs giving away e-books and selling courses to teach people to build a dream lifestyle business. They dangled freedom from employment and four-hour workweeks, and shot their videos on beaches and in mountain-side cabins, to attract an audience to their webinars. Like Influencer Culture today, they would promise an easy-to-follow blueprint to guarantee followers the same success. These individuals taught others how to create and sell digital products that taught people how to create and sell digital products that taught…yes, you get the point. There was no meaningful substance anywhere in the chain. The money made came from aspirational marketing that shaped perceptions, sold appealing promises, and used smoke and mirrors to persuade people it was a quick route to material wealth. This is exactly what we have witnessed happen in corners of the online coaching world. It targets individuals, encouraging them to believe that becoming a coach is a quick route to financial prosperity or to escaping material insecurity. They are sold a blueprint for convincing others of the potential wealth of becoming a coach who shares the same process with them, so on and so forth until the supply of potential clients runs dry. Coaching Is Never a One Size Fits All Solution Even for coaches who find their own niche, you can tell when this sort of pyramid model is at work because they coach people to become coaches. Treating every problem with the same solution. A “relationship coach” may end up with many clients becoming coaches themselves. A “career coach” has a disproportionate number of people pivoting to follow in their footsteps in building a coaching business rather than being coached to identify and follow their own path. It concerns me when I see a coach describing how their clients have succeeded in the same ways they did. That is a dereliction of what I see as the purpose of coaching: to support each individual in defining success on their own terms and navigating their unique path towards it. Identifying Pyramid Schemes in the Coaching World How can we assess whether a coaching environment is genuine and meets our needs or those it supports? And how can we identify sources of exploitation and extraction in the coaching industry? Does it Create Dependency? In a healthy structure, the value is evident in the client’s life. They see shifts in the area they worked with a coach to address. For example, development of leadership skills, a clear path for their planned career pivot, or forward momentum with a personal project etc. In a pyramid structure, the value is cyclical. Success is often based on copying and reusing the coach’s business model and tools. Especially if the original coach earns affiliate commissions from their client’s future business, which frequently happens when they’ve been sold a specific model or framework to build their business around. It’s a big red flag if your coaching credentials rely on your continuous connection to the coach (such as paying for rights, licences, etc.), and the certification lacks legitimacy outside the bubble where you trained. Does it Restrict Outcomes and Definitions? Another red flag is a testimonial list where every client looks like a carbon copy of the coach. Solid and ethical coaching acts as a prism, refracting unique objectives into results as diverse as the number of individuals being coached. A pyramid acts as a mould, pressing everyone into the same shape. Does It Only Have One Solution? Ethical coaching draws on a range of experiences and diverse training sources, enabling the coach to exercise initiative and treat every client according to their unique needs. Pyramid structures depend on insularity and a one-size-fits-all approach. If the coach’s sole credential is their success in producing more coaches in their own image, it raises serious concerns. Over to You I’d be interested to hear how this has shown up in your experience. Send me a message or leave a comment.