Pursuit of Gold with Laura Wilkinson

Laura delves into the dynamic world of elite gymnastics with the prodigiously talented Dulcy Caylor on the podcast this week. Highlighting the essential blend of physical prowess and mental fortitude, Dulcy's journey from clinching gold medals at a tender young age to aiming for the 2024 Olympic trials encapsulates the essence of determination and resilience. As you will hear, today's episode not only uncovers the universal battle with nerves that athletes face but also emphasizes the crucial role of mental training alongside physical preparation.  Dulcy's candid insights into overcoming competition anxiety, her strategic approach to training, and the invaluable support from figures like Simone Biles exemplify the intricate tapestry of challenges and triumphs defining an athlete's journey to excellence. Her narrative further reveals the profound bond of camaraderie among gymnasts, transcending age and experience, fostering a united front in the pursuit of their Olympic dreams. Through detailed discussions on the Olympic trials process, the significance of a supportive ecosystem, and Dulcy's personal strategies for combating nerves, listeners are offered a unique glimpse into the relentless pursuit of gold. Her insightful dialogue with Laura here today stands as a testament to the power of perseverance, mentorship, and the indomitable spirit of young athletes such as Dulcy, who navigate the complexities of elite sports with grace and steadfast ambition. Episode Highlights: Ambitious beginnings to senior success Overcoming mental hurdles Customized coaching for peak performance Resilience through ups and downs Building a supportive environment Strategic mindset and preparation Aspirations beyond the mat Navigating the path to Olympic Trials Quotes: "Even the most elite athletes battle with fear, nerves, anxiety, impostor syndrome...they are overcomeable." "I am obsessed with gymnastics, but once I started getting into level nine, level eight...I really wanted to go as far as I can with this." "Age doesn't matter in this now. It's 16 and up and you just have to compete with it." "You can't let anything spiral...I care too much that I'm not going to care." "It's those tiny little changes sometimes that are the hardest because you have to focus so differently." "Keep your dream in mind every day. If you really want it, work for it every time, as much as you can." "Work hard and work smart." "Have fun with it every single day. It's still the sport that you loved as a kid." "I would love to do something that helps people." "I'm keeping my options open, but I also have my eyes on ‘28." "If you set your mind to something, it's going to happen." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Coaching with Laura Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Dulcy: Dulcy's Instagram

Joining Laura on the podcast this week is Jamie Mittelman, the visionary founder of Flame Bearers, a groundbreaking platform dedicated to amplifying the voices of women Olympians and Paralympians worldwide. Through immersive podcasts, compelling videos, and dynamic live events, Jamie breathes life into champion stories, illuminating their triumphs, tribulations, and the societal issues that shape their paths. Today, our guest shares profound insights into her mission, underscoring the transformative power of narratives and the indomitable spirit of athletes.  As you will hear, Jamie's unwavering commitment to storytelling and championing women athletes has propelled her to spotlight their remarkable odysseys, from renowned icons to unsung heroines across the globe. Together, she and Laura embark on a deep dive into the realms of women's sports, entrepreneurship, and the transcendent influence of storytelling, unraveling the essence of Flame Bearers' mission and the compelling narratives driving positive change in the athletic sphere. Jamie's journey from athlete to entrepreneur uncovers the vital steps to success, from crafting robust business strategies to fostering resilient communities, all while championing authenticity, resilience, and empowerment in the pursuit of athletic excellence. Join Laura and Jamie here today for this inspiring and instructive examination into the intricate tapestry of women's sports, and the boundless potential of storytelling. Episode Highlights: The story of Flame Bearers Representation in sports media The power of storytelling Authenticity in branding Resilience and adversity Community and support systems Challenges in media representation Future of Flame Bearers Building a successful business Quotes: "Historically, 95% of sports coverage has gone to male athletes, but we're making progress. There's a quantity and a quality issue when it comes to women's sports coverage." "The best way to get people to care is to build an emotional connection, and I think the best way to do that is with stories." "Share who you actually are, not just the highlight reel. Sponsors gravitate towards people who are being vulnerable because fans can relate to them." "Flame Bearers' vision is to become the go-to storytelling platform for elite women athletes, centering their stories through podcasts, videos, and live events." "No one person can do it all... Surround yourself with people who could have your back and who can fill those holes." "I want to make sure that we don't forget how we got there... Acknowledging those first trailblazers and making sure they feel validated and seen." "Literally every piece that I do, it's kind of like a love letter to that athlete... I want to tell their story how they want it told." "One reason I started the podcast was I had just come back to diving after retirement... I started the podcast to bring people on and start asking questions." "You can have the best story in the world, but if nobody hears it, does it make a difference?... Jamie is giving them the opportunity to connect, and that's huge." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Book Laura to Speak at Your Event! Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Jamie: Flame Bearers Website Flame Bearers Podcast Flame Bearers Linktree

This week, Laura introduces us to the remarkable Jon Root, a volleyball luminary whose journey to success defied expectations at every turn. From an unforeseen introduction to volleyball in West Los Angeles to clinching prestigious All-American accolades at Stanford University to achieving Olympic and international glory, Jon's trajectory epitomizes the indomitable spirit of passion and perseverance in the sporting realm. Through Laura's engaging dialogue with Jon, listeners are immersed not only in Jon's many spectacular achievements but also in the intricacies of athletes' transitions beyond the competitive sphere, delving into themes of identity, purpose, and personal growth post-athletics. From his storied collegiate career at Stanford University, where he navigated the rigorous demands of both academics and athletics with aplomb, to his triumphant representation of the United States on the international volleyball stage, Jon's journey is a testament to unwavering determination and dedication. As he candidly shares his experiences, Jon unveils the myriad challenges athletes encounter upon bidding farewell to professional sports, emphasizing the paramount importance of self-discovery, resilience, and adaptability in charting a course through the uncharted waters of post-athletic life. Through their illuminating discourse, Laura and Jon offer invaluable insights and inspiration, urging athletes, coaches, and sports enthusiasts to embrace change, forge supportive networks, and leave an enduring legacy that transcends the boundaries of the sporting arena. This episode stands as yet another poignant reminder of the transformative power of sports, guiding listeners on a journey of empowerment and self-discovery as they endeavor to realize their fullest potential, both on and off the field. Episode Highlights: Jon's unexpected journey from baseball to volleyball The challenges of California's volleyball scene Jon's Stanford University choice His reflections on his Stanford Athletics Hall of Fame induction The intense training leading to the 1988 Seoul Olympics Winning a gold medal and post-competition challenges Jon's personal transformation Coaching impact, personal growth, seeking support, and leaving a lasting legacy Quotes: "Sports kind of saved me from myself." "I was a good mess, but I was kind of a mess." "There's more to this than just the bread and butter." "You're allowed to have your own journey, and that's what makes it beautiful." "I think I was just so lost in the humility and the kind of what just happened." "If you're good at performance but you're not great at change, can you look at change in a different way? In changing, we do perform. In performing, we do change. It's inherently part of the walnut." "You're going to have to get out there and try a couple of things. The first thing may not be the only thing, and it may not be the best thing." "We need to let athletes know that we are more than just athletes. There's so much more involved in our stories and in who we are as people." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Book Laura to Speak at Your Event! Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook

In this special episode, listeners are invited to explore Laura's journey to Olympic triumph, shaped by resilience and determination. Approaching the 24th anniversary of a pivotal moment in her life, personal audio clips, as shared here today, recount significant moments along her journey that profoundly impacted her path. Laura's tale of being a young diver filled with Olympic dreams and facing momentous decisions at times of relative uncertainty inspires many of the episode's themes such as overcoming adversity, embracing gratitude, and finding strength in challenges. Using this momentous event as a springboard, the episode delves into resilience amidst adversity, from life-altering decisions to recovering from injuries. Through this intimate account, listeners gain insights into how resilience shapes Laura's responses to life's trials, and how gratitude emerges as transformative amidst setbacks, shifting her focus towards opportunities and fostering a positive mindset. As you will hear, community support proves vital in overcoming obstacles, brilliantly highlighting the importance of unity, and each setback becomes a chance for growth, paving the way towards Olympic success. As the world looks ahead to the upcoming Paris Olympics, Laura's very personal reflection here today offers timely, hard-earned lessons and insights from her own stellar career that will prove invaluable to all those engaged in their own Pursuit of Gold. Episode Highlights: Facing career-altering decisions and overcoming devastating injuries Embracing gratitude amid setbacks  Transforming obstacles into opportunities, fostering resilience, and maintaining a positive mindset The pivotal role of coaches, teammates, and loved ones How each setback serves as a chance for growth and self-discovery Persevering through setbacks and challenges Reflecting on past challenges The anticipation building for the forthcoming Olympics in Paris Conquering uncertainty and fully committing to Olympic dreams How moments of reflection and gratitude provide solace and fortify determination in the face of adversity Quotes: "Every cloud really does have a silver lining. If you open your eyes, you'll find it." "Recognize that although you may not be happy with the competition, there is more to life than that competition." "Sometimes we will win that amazing gold medal and sometimes we'll miss it. But amazing things still happen because I didn't give up." "Every obstacle that we face, there is an opportunity inside of it, but we have to be willing to find it." "It's easy to say inspiring stuff and work really hard when things are going well and when things like you're healthy and things are just kind of normal and easy in that sense." "Find things to be grateful for. In the middle of the tough, in the middle of the painful, in the middle of the hard, there is something to be thankful for. Fill your mind with that and focus on those things." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Book Laura to Speak at Your Event! Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook

In yet another impactful and empowering episode of The Pursuit of Gold podcast, Laura delves into the all too often-overlooked topic of life after competitive sports. Joining her for this important discussion is Robyn Eckersley, CPC, ELI-MP, a dedicated life expansion coach who specializes in helping high performing women create huge, meaningful change within themselves, their personal lives, and their professional lives. Together, this dynamic duo navigates the emotional rollercoaster of retiring from elite athletics, discussing the challenges of finding purpose and passion beyond sports.  Throughout their candid conversation, Laura and Robyn uncover practical strategies for tackling financial challenges, prioritizing mental health, and embracing gratitude as a pathway to personal fulfillment. Exploring the journey of transitioning from the pinnacle of athletic achievement to a new chapter in life, they emphasize the importance of setting meaningful targets, reframing mindset, and finding strength in community support networks. Through the insights that Robyn and Laura share here today, they redefine success on individual terms, encouraging listeners to approach change with confidence and optimism as they embark on life beyond the sports arena. Episode Highlights: The emotional journey of transitioning from athletic achievement to new beginnings Strategies for discovering passions and purpose beyond sports The importance of mental health awareness and seeking support during transitions Navigating financial challenges and planning for long-term stability post-retirement Finding strength through gratitude and guided journaling practices Overcoming isolation and reconnecting with community and purpose Self-discovery and personal growth after leaving the sports arena Embracing change and finding fulfillment beyond athletics Quotes: "There are too many stories of unsuccessful retirement experiences where athletes suffer immensely with mental, emotional, physical, and financial repercussions once they hang up their jersey." "What is life about? I had no answers. And so, honestly, my mental health did start to take a major toll." "A lot of these athletes, if they had the privilege of generating a good amount of income over the course of their career, are without financial advising and the appropriate kind of financial counseling to help set them up for the long term." "I think it's really healthy to go through those emotional ups and downs afterward. That's a healthy grief process." "A lot of times people think I'm grieving... I grieve the routine I had training every day in the gym." "We're not created to be alone. We need community for sure." "We need to recognize all the value that we have intrinsically as each individual human being on top of what you can do in your sport." "Lean into the fact that you get to experience the Olympic village, the camaraderie, and the opportunity to connect with fellow athletes on a human level." "Struggling after retirement shouldn't be the norm; we're changing those metrics and creating a supportive community for athletes." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website The Confidence Journal Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Robyn: Robyn's Website Robyn's LinkedIn Robyn's Instagram

Welcome to another captivating episode of the Pursuit of Gold podcast, where, this week, Laura engages in an inspiring conversation with Kyle Coon, a paralympian, author, speaker, and a truly  extraordinary individual who has surmounted formidable challenges to chase his aspirations. Kyle's journey commenced at a very early age, when retinoblastoma robbed him of his sight. From experiencing this loss to conquering Mount Kilimanjaro to representing Team USA in the Paralympics, Kyle's narrative epitomizes resilience and unwavering determination in the face of adversity. Throughout the episode, Kyle shares poignant anecdotes from his childhood encounter with cancer, his navigation of the sightless realm, and the pivotal influence of mentor Eric Weihenmayer. He delves into the intricacies of competing as a blind athlete, his collegiate wrestling exploits, his affinity for communal fitness pursuits, and the transformative allure of running and triathlon. As Kyle recounts his extraordinary journey, listeners are given the opportunity to contemplate the significance of resilience, mentorship, and purpose amidst life's challenges, and to partake in a narrative underscored by perseverance and the relentless pursuit of excellence. Kyle's evolution from a visually impaired athlete to a Paralympic contender is explored here today with depth and insight, showcasing the indomitable human spirit's capacity to transcend obstacles and achieve greatness no matter what the odds. Episode Highlights: Kyle's journey from battling retinoblastoma to embracing life without sight The significant role of mentorship, especially from Eric Weinmayer, in shaping Kyle's life Triumphs and challenges faced by Kyle as a blind athlete in rock climbing and wrestling Transition to college life, competitive wrestling at UCF, and the transformative power of group exercise Overcoming unemployment and depression through rediscovering passion in running and triathlon The evolution of Kyle's mindset from endurance challenges to excelling in Paralympic triathlon Experiences of visually impaired triathlon participation, including the role of guides Adapting to Covid-19's impact on Kyle's journey, showcasing resilience in unforeseen circumstances Quotes: "I was diagnosed with a very rare form of eye cancer when I was ten months old. Essentially, I had cancer in both of my retinas, and the doctors immediately wanted to remove my eyes." "I fell in love with running, which morphed into a love and passion for triathlon.” "I strive for excellence. I like to be a high achiever.” "I hated running until I got good at it. It took me about six or seven years to really love it. But I enjoy pushing myself and putting the puzzle of swim, bike, run together." "It's about pushing yourself, finding your breaking point, and then pushing beyond it." "The pursuit of gold, whether in sport or life, drives us to be excellent." "Every time I reached my edge, I was able to push myself a little bit further." "I've had to learn how to cope with not achieving my goals." "The journey to the Paralympics is as much about resilience as it is about performance." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Coaching Sessions with Laura Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Kyle: Kyle's Website Discovering a Life Without Limits Kickin' It With The KTrain Podcast Kyle's Facebook Kyle's Instagram Kyle's LinkedIn

At just 22 years old, Natalia Grossman's incredible track record of success includes winning Gold and Silver at the 2021 International Federation of Sport Climbing (IFSC) Climbing World Championships, 19 podium finishes at World Cup events and, most recently, qualifying for the 2024 Paris Olympics. Today, this rapidly rising superstar sits down with Laura to candidly discuss a number of topics, including her awe-inspiring journey to the pinnacle of her sport, the trials of relocating for climbing, facing online criticism, and the transformative experience of turning pro. Diving into the complexities of competitive athletics, Laura and Natalia illuminate the mental fortitude required to navigate the highs and lows of elite sports. From the weight of expectations to the quest for balance and mental well-being, they dissect the emotional journey with honesty and vulnerability. The episode unfolds with a raw exploration of the toll of external scrutiny and the healing power of open communication within a strong support network while also offering insights on discipline, resilience, and the profound joy of pursuing one's passion. Sharing her experiences here today, Natalia joins Laura in taking listeners on an inspirational journey of self-discovery that embraces the pursuit of excellence with renewed determination and purpose, serving as a beacon of inspiration for all those seeking to conquer their own challenges and achieve greatness in their endeavors. Episode Highlights: Natalia's remarkable journey Balancing training, competitions, and schooling Natalia's shift from gymnastics to climbing Confronting online criticism Finding joy in climbing Natalia's triumphs amid setbacks Looking ahead to the Olympic Games and beyond Managing expectations and public scrutiny Quotes: "I was just training for fun, and I ended up winning. Then I thought, 'Well, now I have to keep doing them!'" "I think one of the biggest things that drew me to the sport was how the community was so close and it's a lot smaller of a sport." "It was just new to me to be going to new countries every month with my team and just getting to compete." "You never forget your first World Cup win. It was just so cool having everyone there." "Don't google your name... I think having people around you that have got your back is a big deal." "Getting it out and talking to people who, you know, love and care about you no matter what, I think that's really important." "I'm a lot more than just a climber.” "You can't control what the other person is doing, especially if it's not like a combat sport. You know what I mean? You're not really like controlling the other person necessarily." "When you go, I guess, pro, and then you have sponsors and you feel like you're supposed to perform to their wants and your income can be based on performance, that can sometimes add another layer of pressure." "What's done is done. We can't go back and change it, right. So now this is a new opportunity." "Just listen to your body and if you feel tired, take that rest day. It's okay to take rest days." "If I'm not having fun, it's not worth it. And if I'm not having fun, I'm not going to perform very well." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Top 10 Mental Skills Guide Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Natalia: Natalia's Instagram Natalia's Website

Laura's guest this week is none other than six-time Olympic Medalist and World Record holder, Ryan Murphy, who details his simply remarkable journey to, and within, the world of elite swimming. From his early days in the pool, following in the footsteps of his competitive siblings, to becoming an internationally revered leader in the realm of swimming, Ryan's steadfast dedication, intense focus, and unmatched work ethic have elevated him to the status of a true champion in the sport. In today's very special episode, he and Laura cover it all, including what's next in his formidable journey, in particular, his preparation for the upcoming 2024 Olympics. Throughout the episode, listeners become privy to valuable insights into the life and mindset of an Olympic champion, as this legendary duo explores such themes as building confidence, managing distractions, handling pressure, and the importance of teamwork. They dive deep into the world of competitive swimming and uncover the invaluable lessons it has to offer, including the significance of perseverance, resilience, and the pursuit of excellence in the face of extraordinary challenges. You definitely do not want to miss this fascinating conversation that provides a rare and invaluable glimpse into the mental and physical preparation that goes into reaching the pinnacle of athletic achievement, achieving Olympic glory, and, above all, pursuing and fulfilling your dreams. Episode Highlights: Ryan Murphy and his road to the highest levels of swimming Race prep and mindset coaching for confidence Managing race day anxiety and Olympic pressure The emotional rollercoaster from selection to Olympic gold The significance of the 100 backstroke for Team USA An in-depth look at the 100 backstroke race strategy The elation of winning Olympic gold Ryan's dedication in the challenging 200 backstroke His thrilling world record relay experience with Michael Phelps Preparing for the 2024 Olympics Quotes: "I just wanted to be the best at everything." "If I perform the way that I'm capable of, I'll make the team." "You can't just show up to the meet and expect to be able to focus. You have to practice that focus leading up to it and know what you're going to focus on." "In the ready room, you might be nervous, but that's just the baseline of the room." "I'm a product of some of the people I've been around and the people that have helped me." "That's the Olympics; when you're five years old, you see that. Being able to achieve something you had very loose dreams of when you're young, that's a really cool thing to fulfill." "I've never gotten out and been like, 'I shouldn't have pushed myself so hard.'" "That was special for everyone. We knew that was Michael's last race. To have the icon of your sport swimming with you in his last race, that's really special." "I think there's just really quality people in the sport. I really do appreciate that." "The goal for me is always very simple: I like to win. At the same time, if I'm second in the world or third in the world, that's something to be really proud of." "You have to do what's best for you." "Maintaining a healthy perspective is crucial." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Top 10 Mental Skills Guide Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Ryan: Ryan's Website Ryan on X Ryan's Instagram

Two-time Olympian, Olympic Silver Medalist, twelve-time National Champion, NCAA Champion, and World Championship Bronze Medalist, Jessica Parratto, is Laura's very special guest on the podcast this week. With deep aquatic roots in her family, Jessica's journey was almost inevitable, as her mother was her coach until age 14, and her father once coached Olympic legend Jenny Thompson. Jessica shares her remarkable story in this episode, from her daring decision to leave home at 14 to train at the National Training Center to her tumultuous Rio Olympics experience, partnership with Delaney Schnell, pursuit of Olympic medals, and specialization in synchronized diving. Jessica's candid conversation with Laura details her unique upbringing, the parental support in choosing her path, and her journey to becoming an elite diver. Showcasing the power of passion, determination, and strong team support, her journey epitomizes determination and resilience, from pivotal synchronized diving partnership decisions to her comeback from retirement. Her collaboration with Delaney Schnell highlights teamwork, trust, and the relentless pursuit of Olympic glory, and beyond the pool, Jessica's story illuminates her life outside diving, emphasizing her supportive family and deep friendships with fellow divers. Tune in here today to share in this truly fascinating tale of all the sacrifices and joys of chasing Olympic dreams from two superstars who have experienced them firsthand. Episode Highlight: Jessica's aquatic family background Her bold choice to leave home at 14 for National Training Jessica's Olympic journey Her discovery of a passion for synchronized diving The role of mental strength in her career The importance of setting boundaries for focus and success Navigating the challenges of Olympic trials, embracing the Olympic experience, and dealing with unexpected situations Insights into Jessica's Rio Olympics experience and post-Rio career plans Adapting to the pandemic's impact on the Tokyo Olympics and making a comeback Demonstrating determination and resilience Synchronized diving intricacies The value of Olympic dreams Quotes: "I did a lot of sports growing up. I did swimming, I did diving, gymnastics, soccer, dance. I mean, I did it all." "My parents made me and my sister feel so comfortable in just wanting to do whatever we wanted to do in life." "I just remember Drew being like, 'Do you think that you can make an Olympic team right now?' And I was just like, 'No.' And he was like, 'Well, I do.'" "I think crazy things can happen in a small amount of time, so don't ever count yourself out.” "It literally changes everything when you think differently, right? And you're like evidence of that right here." "It's so important. It is definitely a difference-maker. And even if you have to preface it like, 'Hey, I don't want to hurt your feelings, I love you guys, but this is just what I need right now. And I just really would love and appreciate that support.'" "It's never just yourself, it's always this army that you have behind you. And so that's what makes it really special." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Top 10 Mental Skills Guide Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Jessica: Jessica's Linktree

Welcome to the latest exciting episode of the Pursuit of Gold podcast, where Laura is joined by the remarkable Katrina Young, a two-time Olympian and five-time world medalist in diving for an inspiring journey through Katrina's life and career. Starting with her outstanding achievements in both gymnastics and diving during her formative years, Katrina's story reflects her steadfast ambition throughout as, despite the fact that her college dreams in sports didn't come to fruition, she persevered, ultimately propelling herself towards Olympic greatness. As she now prepares for the 2024 World Aquatic Championships in Doha and aims for her third Olympic appearance in Paris, Katrina's path is filled with highs, lows, and a focus on authentic competition. Laura and Katrina embark upon this remarkable voyage of ambition, self-discovery, and the relentless pursuit of Olympic gold by delving into Katrina's gymnastics-to-diving transition, her familial inspiration from her Olympian grandmother, her transformative mindset shift, and her candid discussion on handling performance anxiety. This inspiring conversation provides invaluable insights into the trials of Olympic competition, the post-Olympic challenges athletes face, the pursuit of a music career alongside diving, life-altering decisions, and the significance of trust and authenticity in the competitive arena. Katrina Young's captivating journey, balancing both diving and music careers, reminds us that the pursuit of passion and authenticity is the true path to greatness. Don't miss out on this engaging episode, as it resonates with ambition, offers inspiration, and underscores the relentless pursuit of one's dreams. Episode Highlights: Katrina's dual background in gymnastics and diving The profound influence of her grandmother, an Olympian in track and field, on Katrina's ambition and determination The challenges Katrina faced during her college years and the pivotal shift in her mindset The significant transition to coach John Proctor and the crucial moments leading up to the 2016 Olympics The importance of authenticity and staying true to oneself in the competitive world Dealing with the pressures of nerves and performance anxiety as a competitive athlete Katrina's ongoing journey of self-discovery and personal growth in pursuit of Olympic success Exploring post-Olympic challenges, including the phenomenon of "post-Olympic blues," and how music played a healing role Quote: "When you're going after your dreams, you don't feel like you have a choice." "No matter what great things our coach says or our friends say, it's our voice in our head 24/7." "It felt a little bit scary to have that much time to think about the possibilities." "I felt like I had to change who I was to become an Olympian, and that's not the truth." "For me, it's more of a performance than anything." "It's a very ironic mix of emotions for me. Every time going into it, I'm like, “I'm going to throw up.”” "Fear is totally normal. It's a totally human thing. But that is also the only time that you can be courageous." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Top 10 Mental Skills Guide Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Katrina: Katrina's Instagram Katrina's X (Twitter) Katrina's Grandstand Katrina's TikTok

Welcome to a monumental 100th episode of the Pursuit of Gold podcast! In this milestone episode, Laura shares her story, her vision, and the invaluable lessons she has gathered from hosting the podcast.  From the momentous start of this podcast in the challenging year of 2020, Laura's mission has been clear: to bring together the tools, knowledge, and inspiration that athletes need to achieve their greatest goals, both in sports and in life. Through insightful conversations with athletes, coaches, and experts from various disciplines, Laura unveils the mental, emotional, and spiritual aspects that fuel champions' journeys. As Laura reflects on her own experiences, you'll discover the wisdom gained from overcoming setbacks, finding new pathways, and redefining one's identity beyond sports. Her pursuit of gold goes far beyond the physical medals to the pursuit of self-discovery, fulfillment, and resilience.  As you will hear, this 100th episode truly encapsulates the very heart and soul of the Pursuit of Gold podcast, reminding athletes that it's not just about the destination but the incredible journey that transforms them into champions, both on and off the field. Thank you for joining Laura Wilkinson on this epic journey, and here's to the next 100 episodes! Episode Highlights: The birth of the Pursuit of Gold podcast Learning from others Finding fulfillment in sports and life The mental game The pursuit of purpose Embracing change and growth Quotes: "Because as I often say to people, I went to three Olympic games but I only brought home one medal, but it didn't make the other two Olympics failures or regrets or I wish I hadn't gone after it." "Finding fulfillment in your sport carries a lot of weight outside of your sport, too, outside of the pool or the track or the gym or whatever it is. To find that fulfillment in your sport also helps you feel fulfilled outside of your sport." "You don't stand up on the podium and become a champion. You have to become a champion in the dark when nobody is watching in those days, weeks, months, years leading up to that moment that you get to stand on top of the podium." "Gold is a great goal. It is something admirable to work for and to try and achieve. But it's the pursuit that makes you who you are, that makes you incredible." "You don't get to the top of the podium and suddenly everything changes. You have to change in order to stand on top of that podium. You have to change in the pursuit. It's the pursuit of gold that makes you a champion." “I want you to grow into the athlete and the person that you want to be. I am your biggest fan.”  “By listening and sharing this show with your friends, you make it possible to continue on and impact so many people. So a huge, heartfelt thank you for listening and for being here and being a ‘Pursuit Peep.'” Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Top 10 Mental Skills Guide Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook

In the latest episode of the Pursuit of Gold podcast, actress, author, emotional coach, and Hollywood professional dancer turned iconic musician Prince's muse, Robia Scott, takes center stage. Her riveting and candid conversation with Laura here today delves into her storied career, the highs and lows of the entertainment industry, and the sacrifices and life-altering choices made by high achievers in pursuit of their dreams. Beneath all the glitz and glamor, they uncover the emotional and mental struggles that often accompany success, particularly the damaging relationship between body image, food, and self-worth. Throughout the episode, Laura and Robia explore the complex world of emotional eating and its roots in societal pressures and personal insecurities as Robia shares her two-decade-long journey to recognize and address these underlying emotional wounds. Together, they stress the critical significance of seeking help, mentorship, and guidance while underscoring the role of accountability and the power of vulnerability in the healing process. Advocating for self-awareness through journaling and investing in personal growth, this episode is a profound journey into emotional healing and self-discovery, providing valuable guidance for those seeking happiness and fulfillment amid the demands of high achievement and success. Don't miss this opportunity to join Laura and Robia's insightful conversation today so you, too, can continue on your own path to emotional well-being and self-empowerment. Episode Highlights: Robia Scott's remarkable journey from professional dancer to Prince's muse The sacrifices made in the pursuit of dreams The hidden struggles behind the glamour of a successful career Body image, food, and self-esteem Robia's journey of self-discovery and emotional healing The significance of acknowledging and processing emotions Robia's role as a coach The cycle of emotional eating and its roots in societal pressures The importance of recognizing the underlying emotions driving destructive behaviors Quotes: "In many of our sports, there's this elephant in the room that people don't want to talk about because we're high achievers, we're tough, we think we should be impenetrable, like some kind of superhero." "These escapes might offer temporary relief and comfort, but they can easily become addictive, enslaving, and destructive patterns." "The feelings we're not dealing with are dealing with us." "Awareness is the first step of change. You can't change what you don't know." "If I'm overweight, you just, like, go on a diet. You try to white knuckle things. You try to quit the smoking. You try to stop the addiction. You try to stop drinking the alcohol. But if you don't deal with the root, it just parlays into a different addiction." "I call them counterfeit comforts because they're those comforts that we turn to, that they're an imposter, they give us some temporary satisfaction, some temporary relief, but they're really a counterfeit." "You don't have to be controlled by these…counterfeit comforts. You can overcome that and move past it." "It's important because like you said, we all struggle with it in some ways, so we have to talk about it." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Top 10 Mental Skills Guide Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Robia: Robia Scott Robia's Free Guide

This week Laura is excited to present Dr. Matt Bowers, an associate professor and the director of the Sport Management Program at the University of Texas at Austin. As an expert in athlete development and sports management, Matt is here  to unravel the complexities surrounding the Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) regulations that have recently reshaped college athletics.  Throughout the episode, Dr. Bowers unpacks the history and development of NIL regulations, illustrating how they have evolved from initial concepts to the powerful influence they now exert in college athletics. He explores the various advantages NIL offers athletes, such as new avenues for personal branding and financial opportunities. But the discussion isn't limited to the benefits; Dr. Bowers also delves into the challenges and complexities accompanying these regulations. The conversation sheds light on how NIL has transformed the way college athletes engage with and profit from their sports careers. Additionally, the episode delves into the intricate relationship between NIL regulations and the overall infrastructure of college sports. Dr. Bowers discusses how these regulations have prompted a reevaluation of traditional collegiate sports models and spurred inclusivity, opening doors for diverse revenue streams. However, he also highlights the challenges in valuing athlete contributions and the urgent need for consistent, national-level guidelines to ensure fair practices across all college sports Whether you're a current or future college athlete, parent, coach, or just a sports enthusiast, this episode offers a critical perspective on navigating the new landscape of college sports thriving within the NIL era.  Episode Highlights:  Breakdown of NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) and its origins in summer 2021.  The fluctuating dynamics between NIL deals and their influence on college selection.  Trends in NIL partnerships, with an emphasis on social media leverage.  NIL's indirect and direct benefits for colleges and universities. Collective's role in fundraising and balancing resources for athletic departments.  Potential changes in athlete retention and graduation rates with NIL. Comparing NIL environments between different division levels in the NCAA.  Aspects concerning athletes transitioning from college to professional sports.  Ensuring alignment of NIL opportunities with personal values and genuine interests.  Quotes:   "Sports are this incredibly powerful context, not inherently good or bad, but one of the most powerful contexts for human development."  "I think long-term happiness and fulfillment and wellbeing come from really having a clear sense of who you are, and then how you pursue that."   "There are a number of lawsuits in process right now that I could see fundamentally altering the relationship between student athletes and universities here in the not too distant future." “I recognize this could be transformative for some families… for their kid to be able to pursue an NIL deal in high school that could change the trajectory of an entire family.” “We've jumped the shark in terms of what we require of an athlete to even be able to put themselves in a position to get to a school like Texas. And so now we're layering on, on top of that.” Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Top 10 Mental Skills Guide Episode 76: Developing a Competitive Mindset with Sports Psychiatrist Dr. T Episode 83: Growing into a Leader with Swimming Olympic Medalist Elizabeth Beisel Episode 89: Fall in Love with Failing with 3x World Champ Softball Player Haylie McCleney Episode 91: Think Big, Act Small with 2x Olympic Medalist Skier Shannon Bahrke Episode 95: Courage is a Learned Skill with High Diver David Colturi Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Matt: Matt's LinkedIn Matt's Website

Joining Laura on the podcast this week is Naya Tapper, a thoroughly remarkable 2020 Olympian and professional women's rugby player who, after earning All-American track and field honors in high school, began her rugby career at UNC Chapel Hill where she starred from 2012-2016. Having turned professional in 2016, Naya has since become the All-Time leading try scorer for USA Women's Eagles, and some highlights from her illustrious career include the 2017 Sydney Sevens Player of the Final, 2017 Sydney Sevens Dream Team, 2017 Vegas Sevens Dream Team, 2018 Rugby World Cup second leading try scorer, and 2018 HSBC Dream Team. She has also earned a silver medal at the 2017 Dubai Sevens Tournament, a gold medal at the 2019 Biarritz Olympique Pays Basque, a silver medal at the 2019 Pan American Games, and was a member of USA Rugby's 2020 Olympic team that competed in Tokyo. Naya's incredible odyssey from her collegiate discovery of rugby to Olympic glory, as shared here today stands as a resounding testament to her steadfast resilience and dedication. Together, she and Laura discuss navigating the challenges of professional rugby, the mental toughness of elite athletes, appearing on Project Runway, and the journey to the Tokyo Olympics. Naya's passion for supporting youth rugby players through the Naya Tapper Scholarship and her dynamic brand, "Naya on Fiya” shine brightly throughout the episode, and listeners will also gain a glimpse into her aspirations beyond her athletic career, particularly in the realm of sports business. Naya's remarkable story is one that resonates far beyond sports, exemplifying the power of unwavering perseverance and the relentless pursuit of one's dreams. Episode Highlights: Naya's journey from discovering rugby in college The importance of having a backup plan in professional rugby Overcoming adversity and making a comeback in the sport Building a personal brand and preparing for the Olympics Highlighting the beauty of diversity and unity in sports Favorite international rugby destinations, like Dubai and South Africa Insights into the Olympic selection process and the importance of staying healthy The impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on training and team dynamics Naya's future aspirations Quotes: "It was destiny because my college coach had connections with the national rugby team." "I got cut from the team. My immediate reaction was, 'I'll just go back to North Carolina and start applying for PT schools.'" "It's always for me, like, 'Okay, what's the next move? How do I get back on my feet?'" "It was nice to be able to chill and relax and let my body decompress and spend time with family and friends that you miss out on a lot when you're full time in this type of profession." "As long as I can stay healthy and continue performing at the level I am, I have the best shot I can possibly provide myself." "Sports have literally changed my life. So to be able to provide that opportunity for people who also want to have that experience, I think was really important to me." "Nobody really knows how to sell you better than you can sell yourself." "I've officially strayed away from PT school mainly because I really don't want to go back to school." "I think something that I've gained a passion for is just sports business." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Top 10 Mental Skills Guide Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Naya: Naya Tapper

How to Create a Thriving Team Culture with Coach J.P. Nerbun Laura's very special guest this week is J.P. Nerbun, founder and co-host of the highly acclaimed sports leadership podcast, Coaching Culture. With an accomplished career as a professional basketball coach spanning over a decade, J.P. Nerbun has become a world-renowned leadership coach, sports consultant, and visionary founder of TOC, a leading global sports-consulting and coaching business. Throughout his career, he and his team have provided personalized coaching and practical resources to hundreds of leaders across various industries, including sports, education, medicine, and business. He is also the acclaimed author of Calling Up: Discovering Your Journey to Transformational Leadership and The Culture System: A Proven Process for Creating an Extraordinary Team Culture. J.P.'s ‘The Culture System Online Training Platform' launched earlier this year. Drawing from his unique perspective as a former athlete, J.P. provides actionable guidance tailored for coaches, athletes, and parents alike seeking to elevate their leadership and culture-building skills. He goes on to share his personal journey and rich leadership experience, and offers insights into effective coaching practices, parental involvement, strategies for handling challenging situations, and the keys to achieving success. Together with Laura, J.P. also delves into the critical role of team culture, crafting coaching philosophies, nurturing relationships in youth sports, and addressing abuse in sports with a positive approach. Brimming with a wealth of wisdom on fostering exceptional team cultures and honing leadership abilities in the sports world, the insights discussed by J.P. and Laura here today will undoubtedly ignite your passion to create positive and impactful experiences in the realm of sports and beyond.  Episode Highlights: Team culture's crucial role Crafting coaching philosophy Building relationships in youth sports J.P.'s transformative journey and experience in culture and leadership Addressing abuse in sports and coaching with a positive impact Effective coaching and parental involvement Handling challenging situations Keys to success Quotes: "If someone is tearing you down as a human being, they criticize your play, that's one thing. But especially to be critical of you as a human being constantly, that you feel less, you feel like you're not worthy... just walk away." "I wish I could go back so much and just tell that younger self to, hey, just tell him to stop. Just tell him, this doesn't work for me." "I'm passionate, so I can be really high, and I can be really low. That used to be my excuse.” "We want to create an environment that's intrinsically motivated for athletes, where they just want to show up and work hard and have a good attitude because that's who they want to be." "My job as your coach is not to make you an Olympic gold medalist. My job is to create an atmosphere and an environment where you can become the very best that you can be." "Your philosophy is like the outline; you allow the players to come in and color it in." "Share it as an observation, not as a judgment. Be curious, not judgmental." "The best way to invite change in others is to first change yourself." "A great leader creates a future that wasn't possible without them." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Top 10 Mental Skills Guide Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with J.P.: TOC Culture

Courage is a Learned Skill with High Diver David Colturi Laura joins forces with professional cliff diver, coach, and performance expert, David Colturi for this week's installment of the Pursuit of Gold podcast. One of the standout cliff divers over the last decade, David has accumulated 14 podiums in 52 starts, including becoming the youngest ever winner of a World Series event at the age of 24. After returning from the enforced World Series break, he was narrowly edged out of the permanent places in 2021 and will return to the 27m platform as a wildcard this year. David also currently serves as a coach, runs high performance workshops, and is a gifted public speaker. Together with Laura, David embarks on an exhilarating journey that delves into such topics as his awe-inspiring transformation from a budding diver to an experienced professional, the pivotal role of balance in the pursuit of one's dreams, and the fearless approach required to confront and conquer personal fears head-on. From being determined to conquer the heights of high dives to the heart-pounding moments during his debut at the Red Bull Cliff Diving event in Corsica, this episode is a treasure trove of adrenaline-pumping narratives and invaluable life lessons. Our dynamic duo also go on to share intimate anecdotes and profound insights into the psychological and emotional battles they've waged during their illustrious careers, from grappling with fear and self-doubt to contending with the physical toll exacted by high-speed impacts. Today's conversation transcends the realm of diving and touches upon the profound importance of setting well-defined objectives, aligning actions with one's authentic values, and embarking on a purpose-driven journey throughout our lives. If you've been wanting to make some crucial mindset shifts like David, in order to perform better, love your sport again or grow your confidence, start getting excited for my awesome Black Friday bundles that are here now but only for a limited time! Every single amazing bundle also comes with a FREE ticket into a new workshop I'll be hosting in January called Turning Obstacles into Opportunities. Make sure you don't miss this window of opportunity- go check out these special bundles at LauraWilkinson.com/blackfriday! Episode Highlights: David's remarkable journey Dedication and sacrifices How college athletes grapple with pursuing their sport professionally or exploring alternative career paths David's leap into professional cliff diving Red Bull Cliff Diving events David's inaugural experience in Corsica Unforeseen setbacks and the power of resilience and a positive attitude Overcoming fear and early challenges in high diving The journey toward control and focus Peer pressure and accountability in overcoming platform hesitation and building confidence Quotes: "Courage is a learned skill just like anything else." "These tough days, these are the ones that define you. This is the good stuff." "You're just competing against yourself... all you've got to do is be better than you were yesterday." "You've just got to sometimes do what you've got to do. And it can be a scary road, but I think you learn a lot of lessons in that, too." "So it's kind of just learning to take those skills we learn in our sport and applying it into our life." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Top 10 Mental Skills Guide Laura's Black Friday Sale Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with David: David's Website David's Instagram

How to Let Go of Expectations with Olympic Gold Medalist Laura Wilkinson Laura goes solo today to speak directly with listeners regarding the intricate issue of expectations that can plague athletes across all levels. Her wealth of experience shines through as she adeptly guides us all through the nuanced landscape of expectation management, providing not only invaluable insights but also practical strategies to shift focus from the burdensome weight of unrealistic pressures to the exhilarating pursuit of goals and personal growth. Laura also delves into the emotional ramifications of expectations, shedding light on how their emotional nature can lead to disappointment, potentially eroding athletes' self-esteem and confidence. A key theme highlighted in this episode is the essential distinction between goals and expectations, with Laura emphasizing that goals should be concrete, measurable, and underpinned by a well-defined plan, while expectations often manifest as vague desires devoid of concrete strategies. By encouraging athletes to view their goals as destinations and expectations as the vehicles of their journey, Laura inspires a profound mindset shift that enables athletes to sidestep undue pressure and instead immerse themselves in the rewarding process of athletic excellence. A truly essential listen, today's episode is a beacon of guidance in particular for athletes seeking to master the art of expectation management and cultivate a goal-oriented mentality along their path to athletic success.  More outstanding guidance will also be available through Laura's upcoming Black Friday Sale, where she will unveil a trove of valuable resources designed to reshape mindsets and elevate athletic performance. Join the Black Friday Waitlist here to ensure you're among the first to access these transformative offerings. Episode Highlights: Understanding the critical difference between goals and expectations Navigating the emotional challenges and potential pitfalls of expectations Expectations as motivators The power of goal-centric focus Leveraging expectations for daily training and character growth Laura's upcoming Black Friday Sale Quotes: "So many of us are carrying the weight of either our own expectations or the expectations of others, whether it be a coach, a parent, teammates, the media, whoever." "Expectations are desires, but they don't have any precise shape or boundaries.” "I really despise the term ‘realistic goals' because when people say ‘realistic', they're trying to say, “Set a goal you can already do,” and that's not a goal." "Goals are stable, yet they're pliable enough to adapt to changing circumstances." "Your goal is where you are aiming. That is your final destination." “The secret to not confuse expectations with goals is to let your expectations direct the quality and effort of your training, not your end result.” "Let's be goal-oriented and goal-focused and really just expect that we are going to train with quality, that we are going to train with integrity, every single day." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Top 10 Mental Skills Guide Laura's Black Friday Sale Waitlist Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook

Getting Creative with Olympic Diver Brandon Loschiavo This week, Laura shines the Pursuit of Gold spotlight on Brandon Loschiavo, an exceptional athlete whose journey is truly a compelling one, and whose impressive resume includes Big Ten championships, NCAA championships, seven U.S. national titles, a World Cup bronze medal, and a coveted spot as an Olympian. Following a brief retirement period post-Tokyo Olympics, Brandon has resurfaced with a resolute focus on competing in the men's ten-meter platform diving event at the 2024 Paris Olympics. Together with Laura here today, he addresses a number of pivotal themes, including unwavering determination, resilience in the face of adversity, the power of a positive mindset, and the art of adapting to life's challenges. Throughout the episode, Brandon delves into his college years, which were far from a straightforward path to success, and his diving career which was marred by knee injuries that threatened to halt his progress. Rather than succumbing to these setbacks, however, Brandon relates how he embarked on a journey filled with creativity and proactive injury management. He also goes on to share with listeners a wealth of wisdom on such topics as life after competitive sports, strength training, coaching, and the unique challenges faced by elite athletes when transitioning into new roles. Tune in and join these two legendary athletes for this powerful reminder that success often stems from embracing challenges head-on - an invaluable lesson so very pertinent to all aspects of life. Episode Highlights: Overcoming adversity through creativity Chasing Olympic dreams Mindset and Olympic trials Post-Olympic experiences Embracing change and adapting Resilience in the face of adversity Seeking multiple opinions regarding injuries Adaptive training approaches Quotes: "Simple mental skills and mindset shifts can make a huge difference in your confidence." "I had that goal, I had that aspiration to make it to the Olympics, and I just put my head down and grinded for the long haul." "It's not the last dive that matters. It's all 18. And I did 17 out of 18 well enough to just keep me not just in the game, but, like, well above second." "I want to walk into the prelim feeling like it's the final. You don't want to just kind of, like, mosey through the prelim, because then you'll do terribly, and it's a cumulative event, so every list counts." "When you're a hyper-focused athlete on these huge goals, there's life outside of it, but you kind of forget how to live." "It felt good to find a new community, and I did for at least probably, like, the first two, three months. I made it a goal to not be defined as a diver when I was outside of diving." "Coaches need coaches. And so I decided to have the team USA strength coach be my strength coach, write my programs." "Strength training is a slow burn, just like getting an Olympic pursuit. it's a long-term investment that pays off at the end." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Top 10 Mental Skills Guide Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Brandon: Brandon's Instagram Brandon's Linktree

Paving Your Own Path with 2x Olympic Skier Tricia Mangan In this week's captivating episode of The Pursuit of Gold, Laura welcomes the truly remarkable Tricia Mangan, a trailblazing skier who defied conventional norms to ascend to the pinnacle of her sport. As a two time Olympian, the 2023 US. National champion, six time North American Cup title winner, NCAA All American and All Academic Team member, and recent Dartmouth College Mechanical Engineering graduate, Tricia's story is a testament to the power of determination, resilience, and the pursuit of dreams regardless of challenges encountered. Today's episode immerses listeners in the multi-faceted world of athletic excellence, exploring the physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual tools that empower athletes like Tricia to achieve greatness.  As you will hear, Tricia's journey to the Olympics was nothing short of extraordinary. Initially an alternate, she received a last-minute call to join the Olympic team and faced the whirlwind of preparations. The episode highlights her emotions and experiences during this roller-coaster ride, from the excitement of Olympic swag shopping to dealing with self-imposed pressure and doubt. As you dive into this episode, you will gain invaluable insights into Tricia's underdog mindset, her meteoric rise to becoming a two-time Olympian and 2023 US National champion, and her tireless dedication to inspiring the next generation of athletes to relentlessly pursue their dreams. Throughout their conversation, Tricia and Laura also shed light on the inspiring connection between Tricia and her brother (and guest on The Pursuit of Gold Episode 84), para rower Andrew Mangan. Tricia's incredible journey, as shared here today, serves as a shining example of relentless commitment and the drive to succeed, reaffirming that even amidst the most formidable challenges, athletes can evolve, learn, and continue to pave their own path in their pursuit of gold. Episode Highlights: Insights into the tight-knit Mangan family Tricia's passion for skiing and soccer The underdog mindset driving Tricia's journey to success Balancing student-athlete life at Dartmouth College while chasing skiing dreams Tricia's triumphant return to the US Ski Team  Her Olympic journey Valuable lessons on process-oriented goal setting Finding victories in every experience The mental aspects of competition, handling pressure, and embracing challenges Quotes: "I knew that my path made me an underdog, but it was that very mindset that fueled my passion for always improving on and off the hill." "My twin brother and I were six when we started ski racing. I just loved it because all of our friends did it, kind of the cool kids at the club did it." "Growing up, I always knew that there were so many better girls out there, so I truly just focused on myself." "I've learned the most about myself, and I still feel it's just a never-ending challenge." "Everyone has their own lived experiences, and there's nothing wrong with feeling bad about a race. Like, you put a ton of work into that." "I just feel so thankful and grateful for all the support I've received, and the most special moments are definitely for me being able to give back and share my journey." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website The Confidence Journal- FREE SHIPPING with checkout code: STARTNOW Conquer Your Fear Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Tricia: Tricia's Website Tricia's Blog - Updates from the Road

Think Big, Act Small with 2x Olympic Medalist Skier Shannon Bahrke Two-time Olympic medalist and three-time Olympian in skiing, Shannon Bahrke, joins Laura for this week's fascinating episode of The Pursuit of Gold podcast.  In addition to her Silver and Bronze Olympic medals, Shannon's achievements over her astonishing 12-year career include being a member of the U.S. “A' Team, earning 7 World Cup victories and 6 U.S. National titles, and winning the Overall World Cup title in 2003, despite enduring multiple major injuries. Since retiring from her sport, she has gone on to create the Team Empower Hour made up of Olympians who empower corporate leaders and teams around the globe through leadership development, team building, keynote speeches, and fitness workout classes.  Today, Shannon shares details of her extraordinary journey, and, together with Laura, explores such themes such as purpose, resilience, and the power of mental training in sports. The episode delves into Shannon's early introduction to aerial skiing, her childhood in Lake Tahoe, and her love for adventure sports. It highlights her transition to mogul skiing and the pivotal role of community and freedom in her skiing passion. Shannon's journey from the University of Utah to competing at the World Cup level sheds light on the challenges she faced, and her accounts of using journaling and visualization in training and competitions underscore the roller coaster of success that defined her Olympic path. Shannon's story, as told here today, serves as a testament to the importance of mental and emotional resilience, seizing opportunities, and embracing unity and patriotism on a global scale. You owe it to yourself to join in on this remarkable journey, as Shannon's inspiring tale exemplifies the indomitable spirit of athletes who choose resilience and triumph, leaving an enduring legacy in the world of sports and beyond. Episode Highlights: Shannon's journey and her resilience and determination to overcome setbacks Her development of mental toughness, a vital quality for elite athletes The pivotal role of positive self-talk The power of visualization Falling in love with mogul skiing The importance of seizing opportunities even when faced with adversity Shannon's ability to bounce back from injuries and setbacks Choosing resilience and turning failures into stepping stones toward success Quotes: "It was hard, it was difficult, it had so many challenges, but it had all of these super crazy and wild people just like me, so it seemed like a perfect fit." "I'm a natural problem solver, and I like when people tell you can't do it." "That was the moment that I first started to use visualization, closing my eyes and experiencing and seeing what it is that I wanted." "We can be the best at our sport, but the difference is in your mental and emotional resilience." "I could be the person that could change the world as a female to do these things." "When you have a purpose that's greater than yourself, that gives you the ability to do things you wouldn't normally be able to do." "Our destiny isn't given to us; we have the choice to make it." "This is the resilience that I need right now to dig deep and be my best self and show the world what I am truly made of." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website The Confidence Journal- FREE SHIPPING with checkout code: STARTNOW Conquer Your Fear Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Shannon: Shannon's Website Shannon's Instagram Shannon's LinkedIn

Honor Your Goals with 2x World Champion Water Polo Player Jaime Komer Welcome to yet another elite episode of the Pursuit of Gold podcast, as Laura takes the plunge into the remarkable journey of Jaime Komer, two-time World Champion and Olympic Silver Medalist in water polo. Drawing from this storied Olympic career and her own personal journey of self-discovery, Jaime has gone on to guide Olympians, Paralympians, professional athletes, women's groups, business executives, parents and entrepreneurs alike through challenging transitions they've encountered, all with compassion and an open mindset. The Founder of Consciously Connected, a personal growth consultancy, our multifaceted guest has also created a new and unique practice for self-exploration and personal growth known as The Kampfire, and, as if that's not enough, serves as the host of the Consciously Connected Podcast. This girl gets things done! As you will hear, Jaime's narrative is nothing short of inspiring, encompassing a journey of transcending boundaries in Central California by initially joining a boys' water polo team to eventually achieving global acclaim. What truly distinguishes Jaime, though, is her transition from the pinnacle of sports to becoming a facilitator, guiding individuals and groups to embrace authenticity and prioritize emotional well-being. Today's conversation unravels the spectrum of Jaime's insights, including the importance of setting ambitious goals and unleashing the power of creative imagery and visualization techniques. Uncovering the peaks and valleys of Jaime's athletic odyssey - from the heights of Olympic Silver glory to the emotional turbulence of facing rejection - her narrative embodies the indomitable spirit required to chase dreams while imparting invaluable wisdom for all. Join Laura and Jaime here today for this testament to resilience and determination, and immerse yourself in the wealth of knowledge, advice, inspiration and motivation to be found in this riveting installment of the Pursuit of Gold podcast. Episode Highlights: Jaime's remarkable journey Goal setting and perseverance Authenticity and emotional well-being Visualization techniques Navigating life transitions Olympic dreams and training The Olympic experience Navigating career transitions Quotes: "It's really hard because you're like this tight-knit family, and at the same time, there's a very competitive energy in it because you don't know who or what's going to happen." "It felt like such an honor. It felt like such a proud moment in my life, and for our team to be there. And then at an individual level, I'm kind of working with my own emotions, my own mental health." "It is a funny experience because you are feeling so many things, and it's so exciting at the same time." "We went in going big. And I think that's why it was so hard, actually when we did get silver.” "Through coaching, by asking people questions and helping them find their own answers, you're way more motivated to do stuff." "There's so much that can happen when we do share it, even if it's maybe not the most comfortable thing to start." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website The Confidence Journal- FREE SHIPPING with checkout code: STARTNOW Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Jaime: Jaime's Website Jaime's Instagram Consciously Connected Podcast on YouTube

In this week's captivating episode, Laura is joined by the outstanding Olympic Silver medalist and softball legend, Haylie McCleney, for an entertaining and informative conversation chock-full of ‘mic drops and truth bombs'. Haylie's extraordinary journey began early in her life, fueled by an insatiable passion for sports and an unwavering commitment to excellence. Graduating with a degree in Human Performance from the University of Alabama and attaining a Master's in Exercise Physiology at Florida Atlantic University, Haylie's dedication has ultimately led to her becoming a Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist (CSCS) with membership in the National Strength and Conditioning Association. Throughout her discussion with Laura today, Haylie shares invaluable insights touching on her approach to thriving as a leadoff hitter, embracing relentless presence, and the profound significance of playing the long game. Key takeaways from the episode reveal Haylie's emphasis on prioritizing personal growth over mere trophies as well as valuing the role of a supportive teammate in boosting morale. She also illuminates the transformative power of journaling as a means to navigate emotions, set goals, and express intentions, offering an enriching perspective on personal growth and competition. While recounting her journey to the Olympics, which saw the unique challenge of softball's temporary removal from the Games, Haylie's tenacity shines through in her work to realize her dream of representing the USA in Tokyo. The complexities posed by the COVID-19 pandemic are addressed as well, emphasizing the importance of stability during uncertain times. Haylie McCleney's inspiring narrative, as shared here today, stands as a testament to relentless dedication, unwavering commitment, and the unending pursuit of excellence - a truly inspiring tale brimming with invaluable wisdom born out of extensive and elite experience. Episode Highlights: The pursuit of personal growth and competition over mere trophies Being a supportive and uplifting teammate in sports Dedication to playing the long game and maintaining focus The distractions and obligations faced while playing professional softball. Navigating the unique challenges of an Olympic journey Coping with disappointment The importance of resilience and team bonding Positive aspects of unconventional Olympics Journaling for mental health Quotes: "You've got to be really in love with failing and learning from your failure." "I was raised to begin with the end in mind and trust that the effort you put in today, weeks, months, years from now, you're going to see the benefits of it." "Softball can be my year-round, full-time job. I can sign one contract, and that's enough money for me to make an incredible living." "What if we try out again and get cut? What if I was an Olympian? But now I'm not an Olympian. Do I still say I'm an Olympian?" "I might as well just have some fun, like, continue to play softball." "Time heals everything." "Play the long game, try to see the long game as best you can." "Every single second matters." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website The Confidence Journal- FREE SHIPPING with checkout code: STARTNOW Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Haylie: Haylie's Website Haylie's Linktree

In today's very special episode, Laura is honored to welcome Erin Aldridge-Shean, a true multi-sport athlete extraordinaire whose many achievements include being a 2000 US Olympian in track and field as well as a five-time US National Volleyball Team member. In this riveting conversation, Erin recounts her inspiring journey, shares insights into crucial issues within the NCAA system, and offers valuable guidance to athletes and heartwarming tales of transformation along the way. Our guest's remarkable career shines a spotlight on the potency of multidisciplinary athleticism and perseverance in the pursuit of Olympic aspirations. Together, she and Laura uncover the advantages and hurdles of engaging in multiple sports, the significance of setting audacious goals, and the paramount importance of ensuring a safe experience for all involved in sports. Erin's perspectives on the realm of collegiate sports and her dedication to helping individuals unlock their inner Olympian provide invaluable lessons for budding athletes and those in search of inspiration. Join Laura and Erin here today for this thought-provoking discussion on resilience, career transitions, and the importance of addressing misconduct in sports. Episode Highlights Erin's remarkable journey balancing collegiate sports The importance of ambitious goals and pursuit of Olympic excellence in multiple sports Challenges and rewards of participating in various sports during youth and high school Erin's insights into crucial NCAA issues and advice for athletes Heartwarming stories of transformation and resilience Multidisciplinary athleticism's power in Olympic dreams Awakening the inner Olympian The power of resilience, determination, and family support in overcoming challenges and personal growth Quotes: "Participating in multiple sports during my youth allowed me to develop exceptional body awareness skills that translated into success in volleyball and track." "The NCAA system has its challenges, but it's essential to raise awareness about issues like grooming and abuse, and I'm committed to helping athletes navigate these challenges." "I just remember being so relieved that someone from my family was there. I just felt the love." "Seize the moment, seize the day, because you never know if you're going to get another shot." "I was never going to be 6'3”. I was going to be stuck at 6'1”, and that's something that you can't coach." "I think that is actually my calling. I completely quit my career in commercial real estate and I launched Ascension Coaching." "I believe that everyone has an Olympian within them. Whatever that looks like, you just have to find it and tap into it." "Grooming, obviously, because it hits so close to home for me, is such a scary thing because you start to trust these people." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Top 10 Mental Skills Guide Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Erin: Erin's LinkedIn Ascension Coaching

Welcome to yet another captivating episode of The Pursuit of Gold podcast, where, this week, Laura Wilkinson reconnects with Carissa Gordon Gump, USA Weightlifting Hall of Fame inductee, the first 63 Kilogram American woman to qualify and compete at the Olympic Games, multiple American record holder, and five time consecutive American Open Champion. Carissa currently serves as the Executive Director for the National Strength and Conditioning Association Foundation and is part of the United States Anti-Doping Agency Athlete Presenter Team, so you know she has a lot of knowledge and experience to share with everyone. Her journey, as shared here today, serves as a powerful reminder of the potential challenges athletes face during their transition from elite sports to retirement, and emphasizes the importance of having a well-thought-out plan and discovering new passions to lead a fulfilling post-athletic career. She also highlights The National Strength and Conditioning Association Foundation's role and her own dedication to staying active and healthy, even after retiring from competitive weightlifting. Overall, this episode offers valuable insights into the world of Olympic weightlifting, the pursuit of Olympic dreams, the critical importance of clean sport advocacy, and the potential fate of weightlifting in the Olympics. You do not want to miss this one. And you do not want to miss Laura's transformative program, Confident Competitor, which is designed to empower athletes to enhance their mental game, improve performance, and rise to challenges. Be sure to check out this comprehensive online program which offers 19 lessons on mindset, mental game, and performance skills, alongside practical activities, bonuses, and group coaching to equip athletes with the tools for success.  Episode Highlights: Carissa's "Golden Prison" experience Overcoming Impostor Syndrome Pursuing Olympic dreams Balancing education and sport Carissa's transition from athlete to a professional The value of knowledge and intelligence beyond athletic accomplishments Seeing sport as a component of life, not the entirety of one's identity Carissa's Olympic journey and challenges The potential fate of Olympic weightlifting Quotes: "'We can guarantee you a spot in February of 2001, but, like in June when you graduate high school, I don't know if we're going to have anything available for you.' And I said, ‘I'll be there.'" "I need to prepare for life after sport, and so that's what going to school was doing for me." "What I would really encourage athletes to recognize, is: your sport, yes, it is a part of who you are, but it is not you. It doesn't define who you are for the rest of your life. You have other identities as well." "I am still part of sport but just in a very different way." "You still need to have a plan to make sure that you, as a person, are fulfilled and have some sort of direction in your life." "Unfortunately, doping issues have been very common in the sport of weightlifting." "You don't just disappear. You still need to have a little sprinkle of whatever in your life." "Weightlifting is on the chopping block for 2028.” "I like to say we're the science behind strength and conditioning." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Confident Competitor Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Carissa: Carissa's Instagram Carissa's Pinterest National Strength and Conditioning Association

Laura goes solo here today to unravel the intricacies of visualization, an indispensable mental tool that underpins athletic success. With her trademark eloquence and expertise, she dissects the eight common missteps athletes often make when navigating the realm of visualization, emphasizing its paramount role in achieving sports-related aspirations. Laura transcends the conventional wisdom that physical prowess alone suffices, acknowledging the array of challenges athletes face, from injuries to burnout, mental roadblocks, and performance anxiety.  As the episode unfolds, visualization is heralded as a transformative skill that can reshape  athletes' journeys, and with our host's seasoned guidance and personal anecdotes, listeners gain the tools needed to unlock their full potential, not only in sports but also in life beyond the arena. She reminds us all that excellence doesn't solely hinge on physical exertion but also on cultivating a resilient and strategic mindset. Join Laura here today as she unveils the secrets to successful visualization, affirming that the pursuit of gold demands not only physical dedication but also the bolstering of mental fortitude—a journey well worth embarking upon. More key components for this journey can be found in Laura's transformative program, Confident Competitor, which is designed to empower athletes to enhance their mental game, improve performance, and rise to challenges. Be sure to check out this comprehensive online program which offers 19 lessons on mindset, mental game, and performance skills, alongside practical activities, bonuses, and group coaching to equip athletes with the tools for success.  Episode Highlights: Visualization takes practice Start small, grow big Sitting up matters Eyes closed, mind open Modeling vs. visualization Diverse approaches to visualization Consistency is key Quotes: "Just like physical training, mental training like visualization also takes practice and time." "Start small and you can always grow bigger." "It's actually much more functional and effective if you are sitting up and thinking through the process." "When you close your eyes, it helps you see the images in your mind clearer instead of having your eyes open and distracted." "With consistency, with consistent practice, you will get better at visualization also." "This is a mindset skill you are growing. Build that consistency and it will become easier for you." "When you can also take time to just visualize in your head alone without the action, you're actively kind of rewiring your brain in ways you might not be able to yet with the actions attached to it." "You have to have patience with yourself. It takes practice. Mental training, real quality mental training, takes practice." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Confident Competitor Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook

This week, Laura is joined by the remarkable April Hutchinson, reigning North American Deadlift record holder in the domain of powerlifting, who shares her inspiring tale of resilience that has led to her ascending to the global stage in a remarkably short time span. Utilizing powerlifting as a catalyst to conquer addiction and mental health challenges, April has also emerged as a vocal advocate for women's rights in sports. Today, she candidly addresses the complexities of competing against male athletes, the significance of providing a platform for women's voices, and the need to preserve the integrity of women's sports. With Laura, April explores the controversies arising from the inclusion of transgender athletes in women's sports, and highlights the importance of standing up for women's rights and equitable competition, even in the face of opposition.  Their discussion also delves into the impact of transgender athletes on women's sports, the differentiation between competition categories, and the empowerment of athletes to advocate for change.  April goes on to recount her own experiences competing against male athletes, and her aspirations for gold in future competitions. With April's journey as the backdrop, today's episode fosters a compelling dialogue about the healing power of sports, gender equity, and the unwavering spirit of athletes dedicated to preserving the integrity of women's athletics. In more great news, Laura is reintroducing her transformative program, Confident Competitor, which is designed to empower athletes to enhance their mental game, improve performance, and rise to challenges. Be sure to check out this comprehensive online program which offers 19 lessons on mindset, mental game, and performance skills, alongside practical activities, bonuses, and group coaching to equip athletes with the tools for success.  Episode Highlights: April's journey from addiction to triumph and sobriety Powerlifting as a catalyst for personal growth and empowerment Competing against male athletes and advocating for women's rights The story of the biological male going by the name Anne Andres Powerlifting's synergy with mental health and physical empowerment April's training routine and aspirations for future competitions Navigating transgender athletes' impact on women's sports Advocacy for equity and women's rights amidst challenges and opposition Quotes: "A lot of women are silenced and feel silenced... April is leading the charge, hoping to inspire courage in others to speak up as well." "COVID was so horrible for probably 90% of people, but for me, it was actually my blessing because I got sober a couple of months prior." "I want to work on my squat and I want to work on my bench... I want to just keep getting better and better and better." "In 2026, the Commonwealth Games will be in Australia, so I want to go there and sweep up all the records in the Commonwealth Games." "The first step we need to do is obviously just educate people, right? I mean, when I first started this, people would call me a bigot or transphobic, right?” "We need to fight for girls in sports, our future generations." "If you stick up for fairness and truth, you can have a great sleep at night." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Confident Competitor Grab the Top 10 Mental Skills Guide! Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with April: I Stand With April April's Instagram April's Twitter

Laura's truly remarkable guest this week is Andrew Mangan, an exceptional rower whose journey through adversity is nothing short of inspirational. Born into an athletic family, Andrew's passion for rowing bloomed alongside his siblings' quests for sporting excellence. However, when he was just 17 years old, a profound spinal cord injury left him paralyzed from the chest down, altering his trajectory. Through candid narration here today, Andrew walks listeners through the pivotal moments of that transformative night, his arduous route to recovery, the emotional difficulties he has faced, and his quest to qualify for the 2024 Paralympics. As you will hear, with resolute determination, he has seized each incremental victory, masterfully turning challenges into opportunities while pursuing his dreams. Along the way, he has also taken the time to create a spinal cord outreach platform, and author a book about brain computer interfaces - a topic of crucial importance to him. Andrew's odyssey of surmounting daunting challenges to achieve his goals resonates as a testament to indomitable resilience and unwavering determination. His journey from grappling with a life-altering spinal cord injury to scaling the precipice of Paralympic aspirations paints a vivid picture of the human spirit's triumph over adversity. Listen in to this fascinating conversation today and witness how the ripples of life's trials are navigated with skillful grace, morphing aspirations into gleaming realities, beckoning with the allure of gold. Be sure to tune into this captivating Pursuit of Gold dialogue filled with inspiration and insights that once again transcend the arena of sports, empowering us all to face multifaceted challenges in every aspect of our lives with unshakable resolve.  Episode Highlights: Andrew Mangan's story of his triumphant path of recovery and personal growth after a life-altering spinal cord injury Confronting an uncertain recovery journey  Establishing "Connecting the Resilient"  Andrew's pursuit of Paralympic dreams Imparting universal lessons in mental resilience, adaptability, and transforming adversity into purpose Andrew's unwavering determination to transcend challenges and discover purpose His choice to study abroad and explore personal growth in Berlin Andrew's journey to Paralympic qualification Quotes: "You have to have hope, and then you also have to have action that follows that hope." "It's beneficial to control the things you can control." "If you put in the work now, especially the closer I am to my injury, the more likely I'll maximize the amount of recovery that I can get." "Our attitude is something that we always have control over." "If you give a little bit past what you think you can every day, then that will show itself in a couple of months' time." "For me, when I had this injury, I just kept going forward, I guess is the biggest message, and doing it with a positive attitude." "Being able to row is one thing and get on the water and train, but being able to actually compete again and compete against someone is a whole 'nother ballgame." "It's not the adversity itself, but rather how you respond to it that defines you." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Grab the Top 10 Mental Skills Guide! Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Andrew: Andrew's Website Andrew's Blog Connecting the Resilient Plugged In Andrew's GoFundMe

In today's episode, Laura engages in a captivating conversation with none other than Elizabeth Beisel, the 3-time Olympian and 2-time medalist, who was voted by her teammates to be the 2016 Captain of the US Olympic Team. Elizabeth's journey, marked by her Olympic debut at the age of 15 and extensive subsequent success, unfolds as a tapestry of determination, resilience, and triumph over adversity. The episode offers a deep dive into Beisel's formative experiences, her trajectory towards becoming a swimming champion, and the transformative shifts in mindset that propelled her to her remarkable achievements. Throughout the discussion, themes of tenacious determination, the significance of self-belief, and the profound influence of mentorship are interwoven, presenting an inspiring illustration of the pursuit of excellence in both athletic and broader life contexts. Elizabeth's voyage within the realm of swimming serves as a testament to the confluence of ambition and unwavering dedication. Accomplishing feats both in and out of the pool, Beisel adeptly balanced her academic pursuits, emerging with a distinguished 3.9 GPA and clinching the esteemed 2011 NCAA Division One Scholar Athlete All American of the Year award before moving on to her storied Olympic career. Ultimately transcending the competitive sphere, Beisel found a new vocation as a talented and insightful media contributor, commentator and author, adding depth to audiences' engagement with the sport. Noteworthy among her endeavors is her charitable initiative, Block Cancer, wherein Beisel embarked on a remarkable nonstop swim that raised an impressive $600,000 for cancer research and clinical trials. A luminary both within the world of sport and beyond, Elizabeth's tale, as shared here today, is as fascinating as it is inspiring - definitely one you do not want to miss. Episode Highlights: Elizabeth's inspirational journey Her self-confidence and mindset shifts Mentorship and achievement Authenticity and connection Triumph over challenges Transition and charity Olympics: reality vs. perception Michael Phelps' Legacy and Motivation Quotes: "I remember distinctly watching the 2000 Sydney Olympics on TV. I was seven years old, and it was the first time I'd ever seen my sport swimming on television. It was the first time that I also grasped the enormity and weight of the Olympic Games." "If there's one thing that I would love for any athlete or whoever it is to take away from this podcast, is like, you can do all of the reps in whatever it is that you do, but if you are not actively practicing how to be confident and believing in yourself, it's never going to click." "It's cool to trace a lot of things back to one pivotal conversation. Like one person made that difference." "I had this rosy colored view of the Olympics because all I had exposure to was what I saw on TV and all of the teams that I had been on leading up to the Olympics." "I think my brain was like, well, I didn't win. I don't have a gold medal yet, so I do want to keep going." "Self-reflection and a desire for personal growth guide decisions about the future." "My best type of leadership is just serving others." "Your life is a constant roller coaster." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Learn more about the Take Action Workshop Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Elizabeth: Elizabeth's Website Silver Lining

Two-time Olympian and renowned runner, Kim Conley, joins Laura on the podcast this week to share her incredible story of defying all odds to reach the pinnacle of her sport. From facing disappointments in college to becoming an Olympian with her first endorsement deal within just three years, Kim's tale is a testament to the power of perseverance and self-belief. In addition to her prowess on the track, she also operates a successful coaching company which caters to runners of all abilities across the nation. Today, this very special guest details the many powerful lessons she has learned during her unforgettable journey of passion, triumph, and dedication. Throughout this fascinating conversation, Kim recounts her road to the Olympics, her transition to marathon running, the challenges she faced during her athletic career, and how she balanced her personal life with her professional ambitions. She highlights the significance of teamwork in running, where even middle-of-the-pack athletes play crucial roles in team scores, and notes that her love for running and the joy she finds in the sport have been the driving forces behind her success and continued dedication to the marathon. The life-changing grant that allowed her to devote herself wholly to training for the Olympic Trials, and the sheer determination and courage she demonstrated in securing her place in the Olympics by a razor-thin margin are also discussed. Kim goes on to introduce her coaching business, "Next Best Run," and her plans for the future, including her quest for the 2024 Paris Olympics. As you will hear, Kim Conley's story, as shared here today, is a truly remarkable one of grit, passion, and seizing the moment that will undoubtedly leave you inspired to pursue your own dreams, no matter what obstacles you may encounter in your path. Episode Highlights: Overcoming disappointments. The value of teamwork Setting ambitious goals Finding joy in running Pursuing excellence Striving for support and independence Kim's make-or-break moment Tactical Olympic trials Quotes: "Sometimes we just need to give ourselves the opportunity to do great things. All of our paths to get there may look different, but every effort we make matters." "I was really focused on really helping the coaches with the recruiting process and trying to build up the team so that we could be the type of team that would qualify for Nationals." "I felt like, ‘Wow, in three years, if I keep making progress, could I get to the Olympic Trials? Would that make me feel accomplished and make up for this huge, heartbreaking disappointment with college?'" "I just need to stop fixating on the outcome and just try to run as hard as I possibly can to see where that lands me." "A lot of it is about where running is fitting into a person's life and how they're feeling. And so I like to have a lot of communication and interaction with the people that I work with." "With the support of coaches, with the support of my family, I kind of set that goal of ‘I want to be at the Olympic Trials in three years.' And so that's how I decided to keep pursuing it after college." "I want to be a runner for my entire life.” Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Learn more about the Take Action Workshop Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Kim: Kim's Website Kim's Instagram

Cejih Yung, Founder and CEO of CG Sports Company, one of the premier sports marketing firms in the industry, joins Laura for a fascinating conversation on this latest episode of the Pursuit of Gold podcast. Having developed his love for sports at a young age growing up as a competitive swimmer in the greater Seattle area, Cejih has gone on to earn an MBA from the University of Washington and a certificate in Negotiation Mastery from Harvard Business School. He has been leading CG Sports since 2016 and writes a weekly blog called Cejih Explains about all things athlete branding, sponsorship, and sports marketing. Given his unique ability to break all these things down into simple, easy, doable steps, Laura has invited him onto the podcast to show everyone exactly how they can get started building their own brand.  Together, Laura and Cejih explore various themes, including the art of building a personal brand as an athlete and seizing the recent name, image, and likeness (NIL) opportunities for college athletes. Along the way, Cejih details how his team empowers athletes to thrive not only in sports but also as influential figures in their field by strategically telling their story, creating an engaging social media presence, and using email marketing to forge meaningful connections with followers and sponsors Throughout their conversation, they unravel the significance of athlete branding, delve into the benefits of crafting a unique brand identity, and share practical tips to grow a dedicated audience and engage with potential sponsors. Cejih also recounts the journey of his CG Sports Company, the comprehensive services it provides to athletes, and highlights its advice to athletes to maintain consistent effort and authentic connections while avoiding the fleeting allure of viral social media posts. Listen in today as this undisputed leader in his field reveals absolutely all that sports professionals need to know about redefining their sports journey by building a brand that reflects their unique story and purpose. Episode Highlights: Cejih Yung and CG Sports Company The significance and power of athlete branding Leveraging NIL opportunities Strategic storytelling Power of email marketing Growing an audience Success beyond virality Mental strength in sports Quotes: "Your brand is how you are perceived by the market and how you want the market to perceive you and understand you." "It's not about going viral; it's about consistency and building authentic connections." "The value of mental skills in sports can bring confidence during pressure-packed moments." "The more valuable you can make your product, the better it's going to be for potential sponsors or partners or paid deals and things like that." "Think of there's you, the person, and then there's you, the product, in the market. And think about those two things." "Building an audience is important because you are taking people on the journey with you." "The most effective way that we have found to get audience engagement and really make a connection with an audience is through email marketing." "You as a person are the most important thing, more than your brand or your identity or any of this stuff." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Grab the Top 10 Mental Skills Guide! Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Cejih: CG Sports Company CG Sports Brand Camp Cejih Explains CG Sports on Instagram

Laura is back and she is joined by the truly exceptional McKenzie Coan, a Paralympic swimmer whose remarkable journey has resulted in thoroughly stellar achievements. McKenzie's story is a testament to the indomitable human spirit, demonstrating that anything is possible when you put your heart and mind to it. In today's powerful conversation, she reveals the mindset skills that have fueled her success, and emphasizes the significance of resilience, determination, staying present, and embracing challenges as opportunities for growth. From being diagnosed with Osteogenesis Imperfecta at just 19 days old, McKenzie's life has exceeded all expectations as she consistently defied limitations set by others. Through aqua therapy and unwavering support from her parents, McKenzie's love for water became a source of rejuvenation that propelled her to ultimately become a three-time U.S. Paralympian, a six-time Paralympic medalist, and a world record holder. In today's episode, she delves into such topics as the emotional turmoil of team selection, the impact of the Paralympic Games, and the importance of mental strength in facing uncertainties leading up to the Tokyo Paralympics. McKenzie also offers her insights on adaptive sports, strength training, and the emotional rollercoaster of pursuing Paralympic excellence. Noting the profound impact of support from family, coaches, and teammates, she also highlights the power of embracing life's challenges to pursue your dreams with belief and determination. Join Laura and McKenzie here today for this remarkable journey of defying limitations and achieving greatness, as they reveal the fact that the pursuit of gold is not just about winning medals; it's about finding freedom in your passion and pushing yourself to new heights. Episode Highlights: The belief McKenzie's parents instilled in her that anything was possible How swimming became McKenzie's refuge Balancing ambitious goals with living in the present moment How McKenzie's discovery of the Paralympic Games inspired her The power of resilience and determination Overcoming adversity and pursuing dreams The emotional turmoil of team selection McKenzie's journey towards Paris 2024 Growth, resilience, and the power of rewiring the mind for success Quotes: "Through every broken bone, every setback, every obstacle, McKenzie has never lost hope, and neither should you." "I think it is really good to have your mind already set in what your next goal might be or achieving the goal that you're just starting to work towards now." "For the first time in my life, I saw athletes who had a disability, who looked like me, with gold medals around their neck and… I realized that this dream is a possibility for me.” "The things that happen to us either become things that happen to us or things that happen for us. That's up to you to decide in the moment." "Everything I've been through in the last few years has led me to this moment. This is my time to go out and show them how strong I am." "Seeing all the athletes from all the other nations, and we're all so different…but we all are coming together to do one thing, and none of that matters for the next week or two." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Grab the Top 10 Mental Skills Guide! Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with McKenzie: McKenzie Coan's Website McKenzie Coan on Twitter McKenzie Coan on TikTok Breaking Free

Welcome to an electrifying episode of the Pursuit of Gold podcast as Laura sits down with three-time Olympian and esteemed member of the New Zealand Black Sticks hockey team, Hugo Inglis, to discuss his remarkable journey in the pursuit of excellence. One of the world's most revered field hockey players - currently training towards his fourth Olympic Games in Paris 2024 - Hugo is not only a successful, multifaceted athlete, but he has also excelled in the realm of academia, earning an MBA with distinction. Today, he and Laura delve into the depths of the mental game in sports, the arduous journey of a professional athlete, and the power of unwavering dedication.  Together, they peel back the layers of what it takes to excel in the world of elite sports as they review Hugo's humble beginnings on the fields of New Zealand to the grand stage of the Olympic Games to Managing Director of High Impact Athlete. The duo explores the trials and triumphs of a professional athlete, reveal the power of mindfulness in boosting performance and nurturing mental well-being, and share invaluable advice on cultivating mental skills from an early age. As the conversation unfolds, you'll be transported to different corners of the globe, as Hugo shares his experiences of playing field hockey in various countries, the unique challenges and rewards that come with that, and the unyielding determination and unbreakable spirit that propelled him to such greatness. This is an episode you won't want to miss, as Laura and Hugo unearth the keys to pursuing excellence, unveil the secrets of a gold-medal mindset, and take you on a journey that will leave you inspired, motivated, and yearning for more. Episode Highlights: The role of mindfulness in enhancing performance and mental well-being Hugo's journey to becoming a professional athlete Maintaining a love for the game and embracing one's strengths Strategies for overcoming self-doubt and finding joy in the pursuit of excellence Perfection, personal growth, and recognizing one's progress Mental well-being and the significance of identity beyond winning or losing Overcoming challenges The impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on sports Balancing professional team commitments and national team obligations Hugo's motivation in pursuing an MBA  High Impact Athletes Quotes: "I think it's a really beneficial part of my development, was never quite settling." "Remember what your best part is, what you bring to the game, whatever sport you're playing, and recognize that and be proud of it and own that and let that be your just kind of magic sauce." "It's about more than just the medal at the end of the competition... I wanted to find out how great I could be." "Perfection itself is not truly attainable, but the pursuit of perfection is a good thing when we can recognize that we might never get there." "Our self-worth or value is not dependent on achieving perfection." "The surgery and the recovery from the surgery was easy. The hard part was standing still for six months to a year with the recurrent back problems." "When you have purpose, a purpose-based performance, it's going to drive you far more than if you're doing it out of fear or something else." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Grab a free guide here Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Hugo: High Impact Athletes HIA's Athletes Hugo's LinkedIn Page Hugo's Twitter Hugo's Instagram

Prepare yourself to step into a world of inspiration and resilience in this captivating episode of the Pursuit of Gold as Laura welcomes former professional basketball player, esteemed member of the Harlem Globetrotters, and true force of determination and triumph, Melvin Adams to the podcast. You are  about to be treated to a heroic tale that defies the odds, as Melvin's journey unfolds from a humble upbringing in poverty to the heights of athletic achievement. Today, he and Laura delve into the details of that journey and uncover themes of conquering adversity, unearthing purpose beyond the realm of sports, and igniting a beacon of hope to illuminate the lives of others. You will undoubtedly be captivated as Melvin shares his extraordinary narrative of rejecting limitations as, against the backdrop of discouraging whispers doubting his potential due to his height, Melvin chose to defy the odds and carve his own path to success. Rising as a two-time NCAA All American Basketball player, he surpassed others' expectations and emerged as a prominent figure in the basketball world. Yet, his journey did not end there. Melvin discovered an unwavering passion for public speaking, harnessing his experiences to inspire and empower the younger generation. Join Laura and Melvin here today as they explore resilience, purpose, leadership, and the transformative power of sports, inspiring us all to reach our full potential and make a lasting impact on the world around us. Episode Highlights: Melvin's challenging upbringing and his use of basketball as an escape The power of resilience, determination, and overcoming obstacles in Melvin's journey. Melvin's transition to public speaking His inspiring message of hope Discovering identity and purpose beyond sports Lessons learned about leadership and teamwork Mentoring and passing the torch Leading by example, finding personal identity, building relationships, and motivating others Quotes: "It does not matter where you start, but how you finish." "Being a leader is not just being the best athlete. It's about character and setting an example." "Basketball is just what you do, it's not who you are. And I think for so many athletes, we get caught up in our identity or our value even lies in the results at the end." "You can speak to people till you're blue in the face, but when they see what you do, that speaks so much louder." "If you have a gift and you're being pushed up, use your gift to bring other people up and make the world a better place." "If you say you're going to commit to something, commit to it with your heart, your soul, your body, and your mind." "The Globetrotters taught me that there was more to the game than just winning and losing." "Don't just think it's going to be forever a winter blizzard. Even in your winter, you can make snowmen." "It's not your circumstance, it's what you do with that and how you approach it and your attitude toward it." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Grab a free guide here Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Melvin: Melvin's Instagram Melvin's Twitter Melvin's Top Youth Speakers Page

In this latest episode of The Pursuit of Gold podcast, Laura welcomes her most special guest ever - her mom Linda Wilkinson. With Mother's Day approaching, Laura wanted to explore the topic of parents' roles in their children's athletic lives, and, given that Linda raised a successful athlete in guiding Laura on her journey, she definitely has plenty of wisdom and advice for parents raising passionate young athletes. Among the many topics discussed are Linda's reasons for not wanting Laura to join a large gym, her encouragement of Laura's dreams, and the importance of structure and fun while pursuing one's passion. She and Laura also cover a number of themes such as handling difficult situations, rising above negativity, and the importance of being an example for others. They provide personal anecdotes and insights into their own experiences of dealing with negative comments and unfair judgments in sports, and emphasize that the value of an athlete is not determined by their place on the podium. The importance of perseverance, family support, and the power of prayer are also highlighted, and the role of parents in supporting their children's passions, but allowing them to navigate their own journeys is also examined. Filled with sage advice drawn from first hand experience, today's episode offers a unique perspective on the hard work, dedication, and support necessary for achieving one's dreams, rendering it an invaluable resource for parents seeking to raise successful and well-adjusted young athletes. Episode Highlights: The important role parents play in their children's athletic lives Supporting and encouraging children's passions and dreams Valuing perseverance, concentration, and skill set Choosing the right gym for your child's needs Striving for a good home life, structure, and fun Letting children make their own decisions and navigate their own journeys in sports Importance of trying new things to find the sport that "lights you up" Dealing with challenges and negativity, and rising above it Quotes: "Life doesn't come with a manual. It comes with a mom." "I wasn't in it for all the competitions, just for you to learn some skills and to have fun and to make friends." "You may not make it to the Olympics, but you would be good at whatever you did."  "Listen to your child's frustration... respect their opinions." "You let me fall, you let me get back up." "Part of that is when you get knocked down, if you are fighting to get back up, you're learning real quick how important this thing is to you." "Just give it a try for a season." "Your value is not in your place on the podium...your value is because you are you." "Just be there to support them...let your athlete and coach do their thing." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Grab a free guide here Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook

Developing a Competitive Mindset with Sports Psychiatrist Dr. T Dr. Arman Taghizadeh, aka Dr. T, is a Board Certified Psychiatrist who specializes in sports psychiatry, and today he joins Laura on the podcast to discuss the significance of developing a positive mindset for athletes to become confident competitors. Together, they explore how the mindset of an athlete affects their attitude, perspective, and responses, and review The Confidence Journal, a guided journal that helps athletes develop a positive mindset, move closer to achieving their goals, and grow their confidence along the way. Dr. T also shares his journey into psychiatry, beginning as a former athlete himself, and how he found his passion for building meaningful connections with patients, similar to the relationships built in sports.  He notes that the lack of understanding around mental health challenges in sports motivated him to focus on this area, and he highlights the importance of relatability and understanding in the mental health field. He and Laura also discuss the importance of simplifying life to improve mental health, especially for young athletes and those struggling after the pandemic, and emphasize how focusing on three areas of their lives each day can help individuals identify and achieve small goals that add up over time. The significance of coaches in helping athletes with mental health challenges is also discussed, including the need for them  to engage in active listening to create a collaborative approach to problem-solving. Join Laura and Dr. T here today for yet another ‘must listen' episode of the Pursuit of Gold podcast, and gain valuable insights into the significance of mindset, communication, and collaboration in sports and mental health. Episode Highlights: Dr. T's background as an athlete growing up The importance of mindset in sports How your attitude, perspective, and responses come from you and you alone Developing a competitive mindset The Confidence Journal and its benefits The importance of focusing on your own mindset rather than others' The lack of understanding around mental health challenges faced by athletes Dr. T's journey to becoming a psychiatrist Building ongoing relationships with patients in psychiatry Working to revolutionize the mental health field The underserved athletic population in mental health Simplifying life to improve mental health Breaking each day down into three areas of focus Coaches helping athletes with mental health The importance of knowing your athlete and engaging in active listening A collaborative approach to problem-solving Creating a safe and supportive environment for athletes Empowering athletes to take ownership of their performance The importance of communication between parents and children The role family dynamics can play in mental health issues in sports Caring about athletes as people Contextualizing the athlete's environment  The need for coaches and parents to recognize and address mental health issues Quotes: "Becoming a confident competitor begins and ends with your mindset." "Through simple guided journaling, your focus and thought process will begin to shift." "The Confidence Journal will begin to show you the beauty of your journey and just how tangible your goals really are." "It's one thing to sort of understand psychology and the brain. It's another thing to understand the grit and the determination and the work ethic and the discipline and the sacrifice that comes with really trying to be an elite athlete." "The competitions and the challenges are just sort of little benchmarks that are part of it. But when we really look at it, the meaningful experience is all the other stuff." "Simplifying is really important... and even writing it down... starts to build those synapses and those connections, and again, starts to build that confidence." "Small victories, small achievements, they all add up." "The best way to win is to have your athlete perform at their best. And the best way to help them perform at their best is to have them be the most confident and motivated and self driven individual." "I have been so blessed to be under a coach for like 30 years that is one of the best in the world. And he has exemplified all of these things that I've seen in the greatest coaches in the world. And he knows every single one of us on our own level." "Helping coaches understand the appropriate language and when to use it and how that impacts an athlete is so important because they may say something, intending one thing, but the athlete may be hearing it differently and processing it differently." “The reality is today's athlete, in a lot of ways, is probably tougher because they're managing so much more and navigating so much more and have more expectations and more pressures, but their brain development is the same.” "If you give athletes the opportunity, even the younger ones will sort of figure out what works best for them." "Ask them what they think, what they saw, give them an opportunity, because number one, you get a sense of where their head's at and what they were thinking." "I want to get to know you as a person, as an athlete, I'm going to ask a lot of different questions." "I also think you show them that I care about you as a person, not just an athlete." "It takes a lot of courage to say, ‘I'm struggling and I don't know why.'" Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website The Confidence Journal (25% off with  coupon code: TOPDOC) Grab a free guide here Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Dr. T's Links: Mindset Training Institute The Mindset Experience Podcast Instagram TikTok/

It's Never Too Late with Aunty Skates In today's episode, Laura welcomes Oorbee Roy, also known as Aunty Skates, to the podcast to discuss her journey of becoming a skateboarder in her 40's as well as her enormous social media success. Together, they discuss the mental and emotional challenges of learning a new sport, overcoming self-doubt, and the impact of Oorbee's positive message on her TikTok followers. Oorbee shares information regarding her upcoming free clinic, "It's Never Too Late to Skate with Aunty Skates",  this May in Toronto, which is open to anyone who wants to start skateboarding. She and Laura also discuss the toxic Aunty culture prevalent in South Asian communities and how Oorbee created the character of Aunty Skates to offer a safe space for South Asian women to pursue their dreams.  They go on to explore the sense of belonging that skateboarding can provide to adults, and how it allows adults to step outside their comfort zone and experience the liberating feeling of play, without fear of judgment or criticism. The importance of finding connections with children through shared interests, modeling perseverance and kindness, and investing time in activities with them to build strong relationships and promote healthy development are all topics that are discussed as well. Laura and Oorbee both emphasize the value of being invested in their children's interests and activities to create meaningful connections, and being positive role models online to help children deal with negativity. The episode concludes with a reflection on the joys of parenting and the importance of being present in their children's lives. Episode Highlights:     Oorbee Roy, and the origin of  Aunty Skates Documenting her skateboarding journey on TikTok Aunty Skates' message Inspiring others to pursue their dreams and live their best lives Finding joy in the journey and not being too hard on yourself Offering a safe space for South Asian women to pursue their dreams The toxic Aunty culture is a result of generational trauma that Oorbee wants to break. Inspiring others to break down barriers in their own lives. Stepping outside your comfort zone and experiencing the liberating feeling of play. How skateboarding has allowed her to parent in a unique and fun way. Creating special connections with children. The importance of being invested in children's interests and activities Modeling perseverance and kindness The joys of parenting Celebrating the journey, not just the successes Giving children the confidence they need to navigate online negativity Dealing with hate on social media Building resilience Quotes: "It's never too late to live your best life." "It's really about finding joy in the journey." "You have to be your biggest fan." "I think it's really important to inspire people to take that first step." "I want to be a safe space for young South Asian women to come and know that anything is possible." "I have compassion for that Aunty generation now, but I don't want to repeat that." "You hit a spot, a sensitive spot, and something a lot of people needed to hear." "It's a mental health break that we all need." "I want to provide that opportunity for people because it's such a joyful experience." "Watching the surprise on their faces when they land the tricks, and then when they get the high from skating and the endorphins start coming in, I'm like, yeah, I love it, I love it, I love it." "Every time they see me fall, they see me get back up." "I do a lot of parenting at the skatepark, which is great. It's great multitasking." "Finding a connection point with your kids...I think is really invaluable." "I guess we see each other's journey, and that's one thing I find really special about the skating community." "I think a lot of it is about confidence." "I'm out there skating in my sari and I feel like a freaking superhero." "They see how joyful I am, they see how confident I am." "Social media is great, and it can be a virus. Like, it can be awful." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Grab a free guide here Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Oorbee's Links: Aunty Skates Homepage Aunty Skates TikTok Aunty Skates Instagram Aunty Skates Facebook

In the latest episode of Pursuit of Gold, Riley Gaines, a recent graduate from the University of Kentucky and a twelve-time NCAA All American swimmer, joins Laura for an important discussion regarding the controversial inclusion of biological males in women's sports. Riley shares her experience competing against transgender swimmer Lia Thomas at the Women's NCAA Championships in March 2022, and exposes the negative consequences of allowing transgender athletes to compete in women's sports. Their discussion highlights the importance of recognizing the injustice and the need to ensure fairness and opportunities for female athletes. The episode explores the emotional toll that silencing female athletes who speak out against allowing transgender athletes to compete in women's sports has on these athletes, and the lack of fairness in competition. The discussion also touches on the need for better policies to address the issue, given the significant impact it has on the integrity of women's sports, and the disturbing silencing of those who wish to speak out about it. Laura and Riley go on to analyze the recent ruling by Phoenix that addresses the issue of trans athletes competing in female events, which, while a step in the right direction, still has flaws that need to be addressed. Together, they emphasize the need for fairness in sports and Riley recounts her involvement with Independent Women's Forum, highlighting the work they are doing to protect women's sports and uphold Title IX policies. Their message here today is clear: the inclusion of biological males in women's sports has significant negative consequences that affect the integrity of the sport, and it is essential to continue to have open and honest discussions to address this issue in order to ultimately create policies that ensure fairness for female athletes. As is clearly noted, "This episode is not to say whether someone's chosen lifestyle is acceptable, it's to expose how biological males are taking opportunities away from biological females in sport." Episode Highlights: Women's sports and the inclusion of biological males Riley's experience competing against Lia Thomas Negative consequences and impact of allowing biological males to participate in women's sports Unfairness in competition for biological females The importance of addressing this issue openly The role of NCAA in dealing with the issue Protecting and providing fair opportunities for biological females in sports Physical advantages that biological men have over women in sports The need for more nuanced rules governing transgender athletes in sports The importance of having conversations about these issues in order to find solutions The silencing of female athletes who speak out against transgender athletes competing in women's sports Title IX policies FINA's recent ruling The idea of transitioning before the age of twelve Rulings from other sports organizations Trans athletes competing in contact sports Staying up to date on this issue Supporting the organizations fighting for women's rights in sports Following updates on Riley's Twitter and Instagram accounts Quotes: "Many coaches and athletes don't want to discuss this publicly because they fear losing their jobs, scholarships, or their spot on the team." "The whole point of creating women's sports was to have fair competition." "I'm bringing this topic to light because it is absolutely destroying women's sports and the ability for girls and women to train, compete, and live their lives both fairly and safely." "Women are, of course, strong and have done phenomenal things. There's phenoms in so many sports across swimming, but of course, that's in relation to your physical capabilities that your body has." "I think the rules need to be more nuanced, and I think there needs to be more conversation around it... I don't think the current rules are sufficient." "I'm fortunate, my coach never tried to silence me, my athletic department never tried to silence me. But talking with these other girls, the amount of silencing and the amount of emotional blackmail and just threatening and intimidation that these schools and these administrations put on these girls is mind blowing." "This is a massive level of abuse, in my opinion." "It just felt like a massive disregard for the work that we put in and the hours that we spent in the pool and the sacrifices that we made." "I think it's really important to stay up to date on this topic because if not, you'll kind of fall into this believing this lie, that this is a non-issue, this is something the Republicans just want to be hateful about. But that's not true." "I'm not going to sit and complain about something and do nothing about it. And so Independent Women's Forum has just been fantastic in allowing me to do that." "I actually think that's what makes this issue so special is it something that no parent, regardless of where you align politically, wants their daughter to be exposed to." Links: The Pursuit of Gold Choose your free guide here Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Riley's Links: Riley's Website Riley's Facebook Riley's Twitter Riley's Instagram Independent Women's Forum

Falling Forward with Olympic Medalist Jonathan Horton From wild child to Olympic medalist, Jonathan Horton is the kind of athlete who truly inspires, his determination and grit winning him silver and bronze Olympic medals. Jonathan begins the episode by discussing his experience as a hyperactive kid, including the time he climbed a twenty-five-foot support beam in the middle of Target! He then talks about how watching the '96 Olympics women's gymnastics team provided a moment of intense motivation that would help him become a pro gymnast. He also discusses the importance of finding your passion and not giving up, including taking new opportunities and embracing challenges. Next, Jonathan chats about his time in college and how it helped him evolve from a self-centered athlete to a team member who supported and fought for his teammates. He then talks in detail about his Olympic experiences, from the doubts about the 2008 men's team, to bonding through anxiety on the eve of team finals, to winning bronze against the odds. Plus, he shares how going for broke against his coach's advice led him to a silver medal. Jonathan then discusses the injuries that led to the end of his gymnastics career and his one regret from that time before closing the episode with his experiences on Ninja Warrior and how he became a two-time author. Episode Highlights: From hyperactive kid to motivated machine Finding your passion and taking on challenges Learning to be a team member Jonathan's experiences at the Olympics Competing on Ninja Warrior Quotes: “That was inspirational for me and millions, if not billions of people, to see those gold medals go over those women's necks and watch the American flag go up in the air and listen to the national anthem. And I just remember thinking, ‘That's it, that's why I'm doing gymnastics, that's what I want to do one day.” “I think that you owe it to yourself to not quit on looking for that thing that fires you up and clicks in your brain and etches itself into your soul.” “I was such an individual, selfish, self-centered athlete that only wanted to win win win for myself. And then, I got to college, and I quickly learned what it meant to have teammates that were all chasing after the same thing. And my first year of college was a steep learning curve where I had to toss all of my own, not all of my own self desires to the side, but really learn how to compete for the guys standing next to me.” “We suddenly just became a brotherhood. We were more than just an Olympic team. We were a family of guys that were like, ‘Hey, screw it. I know that no one believes that we can win a medal. We barely believe that we can win a medal because we're all panicking right now. But let's just go out there. And we always said, grip it and rip it, just grab the equipment and just go.” “My goal was always to be like Laura Wilkinson and win gold. I wanted that gold medal. And that's what kept driving me. I never got to really call myself an Olympic champion. But I also tell people, I didn't lose gold. I won silver, I won bronze, I didn't lose anything.” Links: The Pursuit of Gold Website Choose your free guide here 5 Ways to Stay Focused in a Competition 5 Smart Strategies to Confidence Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Jonathan's Links: Falling Forward: How An Ordinary Kid Failed His Way to His Olympic Dream on Amazon If I Had Known: Life Lessons From An Olympic Pro Athlete on Amazon Jonathan's Facebook Jonathan's Instagram

On this episode of the Pursuit of Gold, Laura welcomes her diving coach of thirty years, Kenny Armstrong, to the podcast.  Not only is he a two time Olympic diver, but he's also a coach turned father figure who helps aspiring divers get Division One scholarships and even gold medals.  The pair dive into Armstrong's origin story as well as his ‘out of the box' training style, and why it works. As a young boy, Kenny began his diving career rather uniquely: diving into  a pond.  A decade and a half later, he would find himself at the 1972 Olympics, diving in front of a large audience for the first time.  It wasn't until the University of Calgary, however, that he got his start coaching.   Since then, his career earned Kenny a legacy defined by consistency, adaptability, culture, and fun.  Like Laura says at the onset of the episode, “A good coach can change the game.  A great coach can change your life,”  and for so many athletes, Kenny has done just that.  Today, he talks about why he loves it all so much, what it is about the sport that gets him excited,  and why the athletes' success is far more important than his own.  Reminiscing on ‘offbeat' diving retreats during which he lost half of his squad, his team's special comradery, moments of victory with Laura, and practicing sports psychology, he notes that the journey always supersedes the destination to him.  He and Laura strongly hold the belief that the two minutes of victory on the podium are too fleeting to hold onto; it's the moments in between that really matter.  So listen to this special conversation to hear about the legend that is Kenny Armstrong and his unique and highly successful career.   The Finer Details of this Episode:  Armstrong's first dives into a pond The ‘72 Olympic Games Reckoning with his international status Getting his coaching start at the University of Calgary Creating culture Why consistency wins Knowing your people and letting them know you Winning gold together  Why the journey > the destination The freedom of diving Father figure and mentor Quotes:  “A good coach can change the game.  A great coach can change your life. I feel like that describes Kenny in a nutshell.” “These athletes would want us to continue, which was probably true. I mean, if they had a vote… we'd have been probably still going.” “Well, I finally found out that I could be competitive on an international level. I did pretty well in Nationals and in the Olympic trials.  Finally, I think the year of 1980, I beat Greg in his home pool.” “Everybody says we have to separate politics and sports, but it's impossible. You can't do it.” “You have to have a culture. Like it's one thing for me to tell somebody how to win a gold medal. It's another thing if they get to train with somebody that is doing that.” “People seem to say about all the greats from different sports that these coaches knew each one of their athletes so well individually, how to push their buttons, or how to back off– and they had to back off.”  “This whole culmination of your life has to be about more than two minutes standing on the podium.” “So don't lose the fun in sport. That's what brings kids, and when they get too serious about it, that takes the fun away. So you've got to be obviously serious, or you're not going to make it, but you have to also be very careful with that.” Links: The Pursuit of Gold Grab the Black Friday Catalog! Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Woodlands

In this week's episode, Laura welcomes Allistair McCaw, a best-selling author and speaker who is recognized as one of the world's foremost figures in leadership, team culture, and mindset. Throughout his 30-year-long career, Allistair has worked with some of the most successful athletes and organizations in the world, from Olympians and Paralympians to World Champion Athletes and Grand Slam Champions. He's also a 29-time marathon finisher and a former five-time world championship competitor in the sport of triathlon. Today, Allistair is committed to his lifelong purpose of teaching, inspiring, and motivating others to be champion minded and achieve their full potential. In this episode of the Pursuit of Gold podcast, Laura and Allistair dive deep into the growth mindset of professional athletes. Allistair begins by discussing the biggest struggles that athletes face today and explains the key difference between choice and sacrifice. As he nicely puts it, when you're passionate about something, it's not a sacrifice; it's a choice. Then, Allistair goes on to explain the importance of learning to deal with failure and overcoming perfectionism as an athlete. Being a perfectionist won't get you far in sports, but embracing failure will. Next, Laura and Allistair talk about the power of vision, the importance of developing self-leadership, and the differences between excellence and success. If you want to learn more about being champion minded, make sure you tune into this episode to hear what Allistair has to say. Episode Highlights: Allistair's background The biggest struggles that athletes face today Choice vs. sacrifice Embracing failure and overcoming perfectionism The inspiration behind Champion Minded The importance of vision for professional athletes The differences between team sports and individual sports The importance of developing leadership skills Why authenticity is key for coaches Excellence vs. success The power of the growth mindset Quotes:  “We all know that progress is different for every single athlete. Sometimes you'll have spurts of growth, sometimes, you'll have spurts of confidence, which helps, and so on and so forth. But we're all on a different journey. ” “Nobody can make you hungry. No one can give you a passion. No one can tell you to enjoy it more. That really comes from within.” “You're not always going to feel like a million dollars. You're not always going to jump out of bed in the morning and can't wait to go to practice. It's impossible, no matter how dedicated or passionate you are. So for me, it was that vision or that purpose of wanting to be a champion one day, wanting to be the best I could be - that's what got me through those tougher days. ” “It has to come from within. You can't make somebody passionate. You can't make somebody do something that they don't necessarily want to do.” “You can't lead others if you're not leading yourself effectively.” “I believe that great coaches, great leaders are more about excellence than about success.” “Enjoy it; that's the most important thing. And I know that's very hard when you're in the middle of it, and especially when things aren't going well, but the journey is the most important thing about it.” “All the hard work, no matter what level you get to, no matter what your destiny is, it will never go unused; it will always be worthwhile because these are qualities that you learn in sports that will help you afterward in your relationships and in business and corporate, whatever direction you go into.” Links: The Pursuit of Gold The Confidence Journal Life at 10 Meters: Lessons from an Olympic Champion Laura Wilkinson Designs- Shop Buy Laura a Coffee Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Allistair: Allistair McCaw Website Allistair McCaw's Books Allistair McCaw's LinkedIn

Joining Laura today is Dominique Moceanu, the youngest Olympic gold medalist in US gymnastics history and youngest senior US national all-around champion in history. Dominique was a member of the first US women's gymnastics team to win Olympic gold in 1996, commonly referred to as the ‘Magnificent Seven' by the media. A nine-time US national team member as well as back-to-back junior and senior all-around national champion, Dominique has been inducted into the USA Gymnastics Hall of Fame and the U.S. Olympic Hall of Fame with her 1996 teammates. But, as life would have it, all that glitter isn't gold. Even though Dominique made history as a young athlete and achieved astonishing results in her career, that success came with a heavy price. From a toxic sports environment to abusive coaching methods, there were a lot of things happening behind the scenes while Dominique and her teammates were winning medals and making gymnastics history.  In this episode of the Pursuit of Gold podcast, Dominique opens up about her emotional and challenging journey. First, she tells us about the impact of the abusive sports environment on young athletes and the toll that it takes on their mental health. Then, she walks us through all the events that were leading up to the Olympics, as well as the hardships she endured after the competition. When Dominique finally decided to speak up about her experiences, everything changed for her. She was abandoned by the community and had to find another way to make a living. Fast forward a few years, and she's now a New York Times best-selling author and an advocate for athletes' rights and protection. Tune into this episode to hear all about her mission to make sports safer for future generations of athletes. Episode Highlights: Dominique's gymnastics journey The mental toll of a toxic sports environment The emotional and challenging lead-up to the Olympics Discovering your identity as a professional athlete Finding the right path post-Olympics The incredible power of telling your truth The devastating reality of standing up for yourself The importance of trust and support in a community The sacrifice of speaking up and the consequences of not speaking up Teaching young athletes to communicate Creating a safe and positive sports culture Quotes:  “Everything went from bright and encouraging and nurturing to all of a sudden, a huge shift of the gym is cold, its environment is stressful. You're constantly humiliated and berated and trying to do things out of fear rather than out of nurture and love. ” “You can't be in the right mindset to pull the best out of yourself when you're terrified.” “I'm lucky that I made it as far as I did with that kind of intensity. Most teenagers would break. Most teenagers would not be able to handle it.” “You know it's wrong, but you can't articulate why. And you're supposed to have the adults advocate for you. ” “The mindset with everything going on, it wasn't the place I needed to be to probably be even my best, but it was good enough for gold.” “This is not who I am; it's what I do. And I love what I do, and I'm passionate about what I do. But you can't let it become who you are.” “Can you live with yourself if you don't do the right thing?” “That's what I kept saying to the women who came to me; it's wrong. You have to report it.” “It is a personal choice. At the end of the day, you have to be okay with the consequences, and they're not always pretty.” Pursuit of Gold Podcast is brought to you by Kaatsu Global Links: Get Your Freebie: ‘Five Ways to Stay Focused in a Competition' The Pursuit of Gold The Confidence Journal Life at 10 Meters: Lessons from an Olympic Champion Pursuit of Gold Merch Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Dominique: Dominique's Twitter Dominique's Instagram Dominique's YouTube Channel Dominique's LinkedIn

On today's episode, Laura's talking about one of the things she gets asked about most frequently: visualization. Laura credits this technique as a big part of why she was able to make the Olympic team and win gold when no one else expected her to. Having seen other athletes succeed with this approach, she adopted it as a way to continue training after shattering her foot three months before the Olympic Trials, making an opportunity out of that forced sidelining. Visualization has remained part of Laura's personal toolset, and she uses that experience in this episode to explain what the technique is and walk us through how to get started visualizing in a way that will actually make a difference. Visualization is defined as purposely rehearsing a skill, routine, or performance in your mind to program your body physically for success. Practicing it consistently becomes a fortifying competition strategy, rewiring your brain to prepare it to deal with all the different factors that come into play while competing. Laura explains that there are a few different ways to visualize, including first and third-person versions, which contribute different effects and should be used in conjunction with each other. She also points out the importance of engaging all your senses while visualizing to better immerse your brain and make changes more easily. Laura then shares some how-to basics for those wishing to start visualizing, from giving yourself a set amount of time to practice, to making sure you have a quiet place to visualize in, and starting with the approach that comes most naturally to you. And finally, Laura finishes the episode with some tips and tricks for beginners, including practicing frequently and consistently, mixing things up every day, and using video study to enhance your visualization. Episode Highlights: Laura's personal experience with visualization What visualization is Types and elements of visualization How-to visualizing basics Tips and tricks for getting started with visualization Quotes: “When I burst onto the scene winning an unexpected Olympic victory—well, unexpected to everyone else—the story that was being told was centered around me having shattered my foot before the Olympic trials and being unable to physically train. So I visualized, and that not only helped me make the Olympic team, but I consider it a big part of the reason that I was able to stand atop the podium and listen to my national anthem play.” “The more senses that you engage, the more your mind starts to believe that you're really doing the activity. You're actively rewiring your brain on how to fire and react when you're doing specific movements and techniques. So the more real it is to you, the more real it is to your brain, and the more effective changes you can actually make.” “People say practice makes perfect, but really, practice makes permanent. So if you're practicing or thinking about or visualizing the wrong actions, that's what you are making into concrete in your brain. So you really want to make sure, as you're visualizing, that you take the time to think about doing all the things, all the tiny, little details, correct because that's what you are programming in your brain.” “These visualizations of the competition scenarios, it just allows you to put yourself in so many different situations that maybe you don't have the actual time to be going out and doing the thirty different competitions against the same people to see how you would stack up in different scenarios. But you can do that in your mind.” “Make sure that you're keeping this positive. This is not a place to beat yourself up or to get frustrated. This is a place to learn, to experiment, and to see yourself doing all these awesome and amazing things that you've dreamed of doing.” Pursuit of Gold Podcast is brought to you by Kaatsu Global Links: The Pursuit of Gold 1-on-1 Coaching with Laura The Confidence Journal Life at 10 Meters: Lessons from an Olympic Champion Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook

Not many things bond you like the trauma of learning the ten-meter platform together, and that's exactly how Laura and this week's guest, Gretchen Sheirr, became friends. A former US national finalist in diving, Gretchen is President of Business Operations for the Houston Rockets, making her the fourth woman to lead the business operations of an NBA team. Gretchen kicks off the episode with her journey from a childhood dream of being a gymnast at LSU before losing motivation, to joining the diving team (about a week before Laura!), and finally getting to LSU on a diving scholarship. She and Laura also discuss how their friendships helped drive them to do better and the intense pressure now being put on high school athletes. And Gretchen talks about how being an athlete teaches you lessons that set you up for life, including accountability, coping with change, and how to respond to feedback constructively. Next, Gretchen discusses her decision to become a business major and how combining that with her passion for sports led her into the sports marketing industry and a job with the Rockets in the early 2000s. She talks about the changes the franchise was going through at that time and how that allowed her to make quick progress in her career while staying with the team. She also tackles what it takes to get into the sports industry and succeed, including a willingness to take risks, set goals, and make sacrifices. Laura then asks her to talk about what it feels like to be one of only a handful of women at the top of the NBA, and Gretchen admits there's a lot of pressure but also opportunities to raise others up, such as her work with Women in Sport and Events (WISE). The discussion then pivots to how the NBA and the Rockets dealt with the impact of COVID and the loss of live events by creating the NBA Bubble, plus Gretchen shares what she and the team are doing now to bring people back in. And finally, Gretchen shares how she maintains her work/life balance by knowing her glass balls from her rubber ones and gives some advice to upcoming athletes not to worry too much about getting internships and focus on their full-time job of college and competing. Episode Highlights: Gretchen's journey to competitive diving What being an athlete teaches you Succeeding in the sports industry Being a woman at the top of the NBA How the Rockets coped with COVID Quotes: “Some of our friends' kids are older, and they're really good athletes. And they're talking about this stuff at an age that I hadn't even started in the sport that I went to college on a scholarship for, that I was relatively decent at, at a time where parents these days are freaking out if their kids aren't even getting recruited.” “As an athlete, you hear that every single day, all day, every day, multiple times a day, that this wasn't good enough, that was bad, or this was good. So you learn how to take a compliment and recognize what you're doing well and make that even better. And you learn how to take negative feedback in a constructive way and correct yourself.” “You need to be prepared to take risks and to move if growing your career is the most important thing. Which I'm not saying that it is—everybody needs to live their own life and create their own path and not necessarily follow other people. And they're like, but you didn't leave. And I was like, I know, but I went into it knowing that I would likely have to at some point, it just didn't happen.” “In order to go to the next step, you have to sort of master what you're currently doing. And until you've mastered what you're currently doing, or at least shown that you have the commitment to master what you're currently doing, why would anyone want to talk to you about the next thing?” “Monday is high school orientation, that me, as an idiot, thought was Monday night. And today, I found out that it is not Monday night, it is at 8:30 on Monday morning. And so I had to cancel two meetings, and I had to reschedule them because I'm going to high school orientation with my kids. Like, that's a glass ball, not dropping it.” Pursuit of Gold Podcast is brought to you by Kaatsu Global Links: The Pursuit of Gold 1-on-1 Coaching with Laura The Confidence Journal Life at 10 Meters: Lessons from an Olympic Champion Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Gretchen Sheirr: LinkedIn

Joining Laura on today's episode is professional high diver, CEO of the International High Diving Institute—America's first high-diving facility, and founder of the Clean Cliffs project, Ellie Smart. Their conversation begins with Ellie's journey from childhood dreams of diving at the Olympics to the tough realization that she wouldn't reach that standard and her decision to retire from diving during college. She shares the challenges of walking away from the sport that defined her, finding her worth outside of diving, and finally discovering her purpose in cliff diving. Ellie then discusses how she made the move into professional high diving, started competing, and eventually made it onto the Red Bull Cliff Diving World Series as a permanent diver. Next, Ellie talks about her desire to keep challenging herself and working on new dives—including one partly inspired by Laura—so that she can continue unlocking her potential to the highest degree. She also speaks to how she and other cliff divers manage their fear, pointing out that fear can be a good thing physiologically, but only if we learn how to control it and use it in a healthy way. Ellie takes a moment to discuss the impact of social media and how she uses it as a tool while enforcing personal boundaries to ensure she avoids the urge to compare herself with others. Closing out the episode, Ellie reveals some of her pursuits when she's not diving herself, including creating the High Diving Institute at the Utah Olympic Park and co-founding Clean Cliffs, a project with the mission to prevent plastic pollution in the world's bodies of water. Episode Highlights: Walking away from and coming back to diving Learning to cliff dive and starting to compete Unlocking potential and managing fear Creating the International High Diving Institute Giving back with Clean Cliffs Quotes: “I wanted to represent Team USA, I wanted to go to the Olympics, and I would practice my gold medals speech in the shower every single night as a kid and my autograph. In class, I used to get in trouble all the time for practicing my autograph.” “The answer is always ‘no' if you never ask, so I would rather ask and get the answer ‘no' than not ask at all and maybe miss out on a really cool, incredible opportunity. So I definitely get embarrassed or shy or self-conscious sometimes when I have things that I really want to do, like, it's definitely not just easy. But I know that the reward of asking and what could come of it is so much better than not asking.” “It was also very humbling to realize that if I was going to keep diving, I needed to dive for me and not for the results or what it looked like from the outside to other people. Because there's always going to be something bigger and better and different that you can do if you're basing your life on decisions or opinions of other people.” “I really think comparison is just the absolute worst thing that you can do. And so, I try to eliminate that as much as possible from my everyday life. So you know, if any of my friends are listening to this, I love you, but I'm not going to watch your Instagram stories. You can tell me all about it in person.” “I think that that's the most exciting thing about life is we don't know, we get to figure it out as we go. And, you know, I used to have a different approach of, ‘I want to know the answer now. I want to know what I'm supposed to do.' And now I have this whole new mindset of, ‘I'm so excited to see what I can do versus what I'm supposed to do.'” Pursuit of Gold Podcast is brought to you by Kaatsu Global Links: The Pursuit of Gold 1-on-1 Coaching with Laura The Confidence Journal Life at 10 Meters: Lessons from an Olympic Champion Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Ellie's Social Media: Ellie's Instagram

Today, Laura welcomes Rebecca Smith, the Founder and CEO of Complete Performance Coaching and PerformHappy, who has been helping high achievers thrive under pressure for more than 20 years. A former gymnast herself and a fellow recovering perfectionist, Rebecca understands very well the mental health challenges that professional athletes have to go through. Having struggled with mental blocks for years, she eventually quit her gymnastics career and decided to move on. Now, she's committed to helping young athletes nurture their mental health while still winning competitions. Her unique evidence-based approach helps fearful young athletes discover the confidence to stand up for themselves when faced with the notorious toxic culture of youth sport. On this episode of the Pursuit of Gold podcast, Laura and Rebecca discuss mental blocks and how to overcome them. Rebecca shares her own story dealing with perfectionism, how mental blocks destroyed her gymnastics career yet helped her to uncover effective tactics for getting over them. She explains the two main parts of overcoming a mental block: the physical side and the mental side. Once you overcome the physical part, you need to work on maintaining a healthy relationship with yourself, meaning build your self-awareness and inner confidence. These two are fundamental to your self-growth. Rebecca goes on to share a few more useful tactics for overcoming mental blocks, such as turning nervousness into excitement, practicing mindfulness, and front-loading confidence. Finally, Laura and Rebecca wrap up the episode by touching upon the importance of having a supportive coach, emphasizing the fact that a positive environment sets the tone for success. Episode Highlights: Rebecca's gymnastics background and moving past mental blocks Winning the battle against perfectionism The importance of praising effort versus talent The incredible power of imagination and creativity for your competence The two parts to overcoming a mental block Increasing and front-loading confidence to avoid mental blocks Turning nervousness into excitement Practicing the mindful warmup and being present Dealing with injuries as a professional athlete Mental health and motivation during COVID The importance of a supportive and positive environment for athletes Supporting young athletes as a parent Quotes: “Their parents are like, ‘She's the best tumbler anyone's ever seen, why can't she just go do it?' And there's this because there's just such a combination of factors that lead to mental block. One of them is that it's the pressure of being amazing, being perfect.” “Our brain only cares about keeping us safe. That's the only thing. It doesn't care about competitions. It doesn't care about scores, or metals or places, or deadlines, or any of that stuff It only cares about ‘keep the body alive.'” “She was the kid who was a hard worker with heart. She was not the most talented kid on our team. But so, with that being said, if you want to move forward, you can't wait for your magic talent fairy to bless you with the ability to do your skill again, it just isn't going to work.” “There is this huge kind of internal component that's all about connecting with your own joy and your own choice. Because if you don't, if you feel like you're doing it for anybody, but you, you're going to get burned out, it's just the way it goes.” “Excitement and nerves are both high arousal, physical states. So, your heart's beating, you're a little more fidgety, you've got a little more energy, it is a lot easier to go from nervous to excited than it is to go from nervous to calm, especially when you only have moments before you compete.” “Injuries, just like mental blocks, are part of the deal. For a lot of athletes, it's just a setback. And so, the worst thing you can do is compare yourself to where you should be or could be or where your friend is or where you would like to be because all that does is create self-pity.” Pursuit of Gold Podcast is brought to you by Kaatsu Global Links: The Pursuit of Gold 1-on-1 Coaching with Laura The Confidence Journal Life at 10 Meters: Lessons from an Olympic Champion Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Rebecca: Rebecca's LinkedIn Rebecca's Instagram

Today, Laura welcomes John Doolittle, a retired Navy SEAL Captain and currently a certified KAATSU Master Specialist who serves as the Chief Revenue Officer of KAATSU Global. Laura and John open the conversation by talking about John's swimming background and introduction to the Air Force Academy. Supported by his trusted mentor Mike, John decided to join the BUD/S training and become a Navy SEAL. Although the training was one of the most challenging and hardest periods of his life, it served as a great introduction to Navy life. From becoming a team player to developing mental toughness, John says this program taught him some of the most valuable lessons in life. He dives deep into the power of trust and how it can be applied in sports, too, not just in the military. He goes on to explain the importance of adopting the ‘never quit' mindset, highlighting its very powerful and contagious nature. Laura and John also address mental health in sports and the military, pointing out the importance of having strong team support and adequate resources. Finally, John shares an inspiring story about his solo swim across the English Channel to raise money for the Navy SEAL Foundation. He offers an inspiring conclusion to this extraordinary episode by stressing that you can accomplish anything in life if you do it for a reason greater than yourself. Episode Highlights: John's swimming background and introduction to the Air Force Academy Going from the Air Force Academy to the Navy The challenging journey of getting into the BUD/S class The three phases of BUD/S training Mental toughness vs. physical toughness Learning to be a team player Adopt a ‘never give up' mentality The importance of trust in teamwork and relationships The power of little things Protecting the homeland after 9/11 Pushing yourself without hitting the breaking point John's solo swim across the English Channel to raise money for the Navy SEAL Foundation Quotes: “One of my biggest takeaways from my time in the teams was about relationships based on trust. And you know why - that starts with our parents, but it also starts with mentors.” “Everyone fails physically pretty quick. That first night, you go to failure on just about everything you do. But the mental piece is so important. And you learn very quickly, that when you thought your body was done, you actually do have more to give.” “You quickly learn at BUD/S training that if you're trying to do something as an individual, you will fail. There are very few things, even this swimming in BUD/S, you can't do it by yourself. Everybody has a swim buddy. And if the two of you fail, don't make the time, you both failed the swim.” “Part of the goal with that type of training is to identify those that when they get really uncomfortable, when they get really tired, they end up making decisions that maybe are not the best. And whether or not somebody is going to quit, you want to identify that pretty early on.” “'Never quit mindset' is very, very powerful and contagious to others on the team.” “When you're doing something really hard in life, try and find a way to do it for something that's bigger than yourself, it's bigger than you, to do it for a reason greater than yourself and you can do damn near anything.” Pursuit of Gold Podcast is brought to you by Kaatsu Global Links: The Pursuit of Gold 1-on-1 Coaching with Laura Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with John: John's LinkedIn

Laura's guest on today's episode is record-breaker, trailblazer, and history-maker Natalie Coughlin. Natalie has won twelve Olympic medals and twenty World Championship medals; she was the first US woman to win six medals at a single Olympic Games and the first woman to win back-to-back Olympic gold medals in the same event and consecutive Olympics. And as if that wasn't enough, Natalie was also the first woman ever to swim the hundred-meter backstroke in less than a minute. Her achievements also include winning eleven out of a possible twelve individual NCAA titles, being NCAA Swimmer of the Year three years in a row, and winning a total of sixteen medals in major international competitions (twenty-five gold, twenty-two silver, and thirteen bronze) spanning the Olympics, the World Championships, the Pan-Pacific Championships, and the Pan-American Games. As impressive as her achievements are, Natalie's also just a really cool, down-to-earth person who's so much fun to talk to. During the episode, we jump into how her story began, her fierce competitiveness, and an injury that changed her whole perspective on swimming. First up, Natalie shares how she got into swimming at a young age and how her natural competitiveness drove her to break onto the swimming scene at just thirteen. She then relates how she suffered a torn labrum in the run-up to qualifying for the 2000 Olympics team, the effect that had on her mindset and perspective, and her choice to avoid surgery and recover through physical rehab. Next, Natalie discusses how she chose which college to attend (eventually ending up at Cal, Berkeley) and the choices she made in her career post-injury, including ditching the two-hundred-meter backstroke and transitioning to sprint events. She talks about qualifying for the 2004 Olympics and the relief when she did, followed by the experience of winning her first gold medal and the positive impact that had on her confidence and ability to stay calm while competing. She also discusses how becoming a gold medalist led to more media attention and street recognition, how the Michael Phelps phenomenon helped shield her from the worst of that, and how she managed to achieve a happy medium of attention for her record-breaking success. Natalie then shares how it felt when other swimmers started nipping at her heels, firing up her competitiveness, and the mindset she gets into when preparing to compete. She then discusses how she prepared for the 2008 and 2012 Olympics, keeping her cool when the media were pushing retirement, and circling back to that early injury and how it helped her keep swimming in perspective. Laura then asks Natalie to share her most memorable and toughest moments in her career, including winning the hundred-back in Beijing and feeling isolated during the 2012 Games. And finally, Natalie shares what she's been up to since retiring from competition, including writing her cookbook Cook to Thrive and starting the women-owned winery Gaderian Wines in Napa Valley. Episode Highlights: How Natalie got started in swimming Natalie's competitive spirit Breaking onto the swimming scene at age thirteen Dealing with injury while trying to make the 2000 Olympic team Choosing between colleges Ditching the 200 backstroke Qualifying for the 2004 Olympic team The impact of winning gold at the Olympics Dealing with media attention Winning medals and breaking records The mentality of competition The road to Beijing 2008 and London 2012 The most memorable vs. the toughest moment of Natalie's swimming career What Natalie's up to now Natalie's cookbook, Cook to Thrive Quotes: “Like the Water Babies type thing, you know, that every parent really needs to do for the safety of their children. It's very, very important, whether you want them to be a swimmer or not, you have to get your kids in the water early.” “When we did soccer at school, like during PE or during recess and lunch, all the kids in my class, they were in soccer, and they were just, they were so much better than me. So I remember going home and practicing with a soccer ball against the wall in the backyard, just so I could get better. And no one was coaching me, I was doing this by myself.” “I will never forget, like, walking out onto the pool deck in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, and they're like, ‘And in lane one, Natalie Coughlin. Thirteen-year-old Natalie Coughlin.' And then I choked because it was the first time I was on, like, the major stage.” “A doctor, you know, finally told me, ‘Hey, you tore your labrum.' So I had to deal with that, you know, most of '99 and the lead up until 2000. And so my training really suffered. Emotionally, I really suffered. It was a really, really tough thing. And so I got to the 2000 Olympic trials, and by that time, I was just a shell of like, what I was before.” “Honestly, the 200 back is one of the most painful events. And by that stage in my career, I was transitioning much more into sprint. And so that was just kind of the proof that I needed of like, ‘Hey, see? I don't need to do this dumb event.'” “Olympic gold, kind of, you just enter this other stratosphere of athletics where you will forever be an Olympic gold medalist - no one could ever take that away.” “Because I had the confidence to do so, I would go pretty easy that first hundred, I would build the fifth twenty-five, and then that last seventy-five meters, I would just hammer it home and just mow people down. It was so fun to swim that way.” “I remember being in the middle of Manhattan and people stopping me on the streets and, like, being on a train in the middle of nowhere, and people stopping me and being recognized. And, you know, part of that was really cool. But also, you know, I turned twenty-two at that Olympic Games. So it was, it was a lot, you know, like, it was great, but it also was super-overwhelming at the same time.” “I didn't want all that pressure on me. It's that catch-22. You know, if you want all that attention, you have to take all that pressure, and I felt like I had kind of the happy medium of it.” “And then, all of a sudden, I started crying. And then I started crying because I was crying. I was just like this sobbing, like, snotty mess.” “2012, I failed to make the Olympic team in the 100 back. And people were like, ‘Oh my God,' you know, waiting for me to freak out or something. And like, 'It's just swimming, guys. I already have two gold medals. Like it's, I'm fine.'” “One, it's so misogynistic, and two, none of their business. Like, it is so inappropriate for people to tell women that they need to retire and have babies. Some women don't want it. Some people have a hard time getting pregnant. There's like, so many reasons to not.” “What I'm most proud of is just, kind of, my consistency throughout the years. The ability to, you know, be in medal contention for twelve different events over three Olympic Games. Like that's something that no one's done. You know, even you know, Dara and Jenny. They didn't do it in three Olympics. I'm really proud of that.” “I knew definitively after the '16 trials that I was done. Like, I love swimming, and I love training so much, but honestly, I don't feel the need to compete ever again. Like, that was kind of my mentality. And so, you know, I ended on my own terms, and I was really, really happy about it.” “I've always made sure when my teammates have had disappointing races or whatever, to not hide from them, and not hide from the conversation, just to be there for them. Like, it was a learning experience for me too.” “I think it's really telling of us as maybe a culture sometimes. Like, we expect people to have a hissy fit or just have this giant pity party.” “I eat very healthy, but I don't deprive myself. So like, I allow myself to have butter, and I eat chicken with the skin on it. And like, I believe in Whole Foods, and I believe in balance.” “People really wanted to peg me into, like, just clean, just healthy. This, like, boring Spartan, like, oh, this is what athletes eat. And that's not how I've ever eaten. And if I ate that way, I would go crazy. I need to have a glass of wine, I need to have my chocolate and butter and like all those things.” Pursuit of Gold Podcast is brought to you by Kaatsu Global Links: The Pursuit of Gold The Confidence Journal Life at 10 Meters: Lessons from an Olympic Champion Laura Wilkinson Designs- Shop Buy Laura a Coffee Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Natalie's Links: Natalie's Instagram Gaderian Wines Instagram Gaderian Wines Homepage Cook to Thrive

We're changing things up this week with a slightly different episode from usual, in which our host, Laura Wilkinson, answers some questions gathered from our Instagram followers. The questions cover topics including starting sports at an older age, dealing with injuries and mental blocks, epic advice that Laura's received, being an underdog versus a favorite, and having purpose. Laura kicks things off with the story of finding her way into diving at the age of fifteen after quitting gymnastics and how that eventually led to the fulfillment of her Olympics dream. And the final question rounding out the episode asks where Laura finds purpose after having achieved so much and what keeps her going every day. Her response is that she's always been very goal-oriented and focused on pushing the envelope of what she is capable of, so she continues to find purpose and fulfillment in setting huge goals and being determined and consistent in pursuing them. But you might be surprised at what directly follows that answer. Episode Highlights: How Laura got into diving at an older age Is it ever too late to start diving and compete? The best advice Laura's ever received Being the underdog vs. the favorite Moving forward from a loss Laura's favorite and least favorite dives How Laura feels watching her kids play sports Using injury time as an opportunity Dealing with mental blocks Setting goals and having purpose Quotes: “I wanted to continue learning and pushing boundaries and trying things, and I just kind of realized it was time to move on. But that dream of the Olympics was still in the back of my mind. I just recognized at that point I needed to find a new sport.” “I'm not sure if it was ever that I recognized my own potential. I just wanted this thing so badly that I was going to pursue it. Whether it was switching sports or, you know, I was just going to pursue it no matter what. I was going to find a sport that I could go to the Olympics, and I was going to find a way to the Olympic Games.” “If you are interested in diving and competing at any age, give it a whirl. I think, at the very least, you're going to try something new, you're going to learn something, and you're gonna have a blast.” “Soak it in. You're at the Olympics, you're in your dream, you're getting to do all these things, just live it up. But when it's your time to dive, when it's your time to compete, that's when you just let all that go. And at that point, you're just at another diving meet against competitors you've competed against so many times, doing dives you've done a thousand times, you know exactly what you're doing.” “When I was kicked off my high school diving team for being a waste of space, yes, obviously, it still gets under my skin today, but I am so glad I was told that because it lit a fire. And sometimes, we need that kind of fire lit under us.” “We want adversity, we want obstacles because that's when we rise to the occasion. So I don't think being labeled an underdog is a bad thing. I think fighting for something, it gives you that fuel—it's just such a perfect description—that fuel to push forward and to overcome. Because you want this thing, and you're fighting for it.” “It's okay to be sad, it's okay to be angry, it's okay to just lose it, and just kind of want to cry or vent or whatever, like, make sure you are allowing yourself to experience that emotion. If you are stuffing it in and trying to avoid the emotion of what happened, it will come out later in a much uglier way.” “Don't sit in the grief for, like, forever, you know, but give yourself a few days, a few weeks, whatever the timeline is, a little bit of time to process it. Then begin to create a new game plan and analyze and work on what happened and what is going to come next.” “My other kids are still kind of figuring out what it is that they're going to do. One has said she is not an athlete, she is an artist, and I respect that, although she will run sprints with me, and so that's really cool, maybe one day she'll go for track. But you know, I love, I love, absolutely love watching them find the thing that lights them up the way that I feel like diving lights me up.” “Don't be afraid to get more than one opinion on what your injury is. You know, one doctor doesn't always have the answers or may not pick up everything, like, it's okay to get two or three opinions on things to make sure you're making the right choice.” “When you have injuries, this is the number one thing I will tell people to do: take care of your injury and then train mentally. Everybody says sports is 90% mental, but no one trains that way. Not one. I can pretty much guarantee you that.” “When you close your eyes as you start implementing all of your senses, you're not just seeing it with your eyes, you can actually feel what you're doing. You're actually firing muscles, like, from the neurons in your brain, you're starting to react with the right muscles that are going to be doing all of these skills. You'll be blown away by what you can do if you do this consistently in that time.” “A lot of times, the issue is not starting in the pool or in the gym. Sometimes, the issue is starting at home or in your personal life. We have this way of carrying stress and anxiety, and it begins to burden us so badly that it comes out in our sport, looking like mental blocks and things like that, or this ultimate fear that is overwhelming. And it's actually not coming from your sport.” “A lot of times, our sport, even if you're a sprinter, the whole process is a marathon, not a sprint. So have that long-term vision and hang on to that.” “I'm very, very goal-oriented. And so, even when I've done really awesome things, I've always wanted more. I've always strived for more, like, my whole goal wasn't… I mean, I wanted to win the Olympics, but I also wanted to find out what I was capable of, how good can I be, how hard of dives can I do and do them really, really well, for like nines and tens.” “I love training as much as I love competing. Competing is exciting and it's fun. But the hunt to get there is almost better. Like sometimes, when you get to the meet, you're like, man, I kind of wish it wasn't here because I love that process. And that hunt. And that work. There's just something so fulfilling about that to me.” “My purpose doesn't just lie in having goals. And it's not just in what I'm doing. I know that I have worth and value because God created me, and he told me that. And, you know, for me, diving has always been a beautiful way to feel really connected with God. Because that is a gift I know he gave me, and when I do it with everything that I am, it feels like worship. And it feels beautiful and completely fulfilling to me.” “I'm still learning how to not just juggle all these things, but how to, you know, shift my priorities to where diving isn't my number one priority, my family is, and then diving will come after that. And learning that I don't have to be so intense all the time, but I can actually just fully embrace it and enjoy every step of the way.” Pursuit of Gold Podcast is brought to you by Kaatsu Global Links: The Pursuit of Gold The Confidence Journal Life at 10 Meters: Lessons from an Olympic Champion Laura Wilkinson Designs- Shop Buy Laura a Coffee Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook

Today, Laura is joined by Michael Hixon, an American diver and two-time Olympic medalist.  The pair open up the episode to talk about Hixon's abnormally young introduction to sports.  Growing up with two parents that were collegiate coaches, he was practically raised on the basketball court and in the pool, but it wasn't until his eighth grade year that he decided to pursue diving full time.  It would soon be a career full of seemingly unachievable goals, Olympic success, and unusual circumstances.  Michael, however, remains humble and expresses his gratitude for his parents, especially his mother, in that they never pressured him to play the sport for the wrong reasons. He raves about the importance of purpose based performance, and how his parents taught him that true success is hardly ever achieved when you compete for the wrong reasons. These lessons helped guide him on his Olympic journey and during his initial introduction to synchro, which, afterall, was fairly different compared to his experience previously competing alone. It was during this time period that Michael feels he honed his skills the most, perhaps due to the help of his coaches, his teammate, Andrew, or the ‘Pray for Rain' speech from a former Olympian.  Laura and Mike draw this episode to a close as they talk about embracing hiccups and mishaps - if you welcome adversity into your life, you transform your mindset.   Episode Highlights: Hixon's young introduction to sports Growing up with parents who coach for a living Feeling behind during his junior career Why unrealistic goal setting is a strong suit for Hixon The importance of having someone believe in you Proving others wrong Purpose based performance Grounds for transferring universities The redshirt process going into the Olympics Hixon's experience with synchro Olympics in Rio Praying for Rain The Olympics during Covid Quotes:  “I grew up in a gym and a pool. I actually refused to go to kindergarten my first year, because I was having so much fun, and there was no way that anyone was going to ever get me to sit in a classroom when, prior to that, all I had done was play all day.” “Eighth grade was when I wanted to quit playing basketball. I wanted to go fully into diving, but when you stopped growing at five foot eight, your decision's kind of made for you.” “I was diving alone in a pool with my mom and that was very isolated, absolutely. Then the other side of that is I got to go play basketball with my friends, and that was a social outlet as well - it was a ton of fun to be a part of a team.” “I thought you know, ‘If I'm going to chase this guy and have the success that he's had, and get onto that international level the way he has at a young age, I've got a lot of work to do.' To be honest, chasing him was one of the easiest ways to get better. When you have a really high standard and you hold yourself to that, that's going to push you forward quickly.” “There is a difference between fear based performance and purpose based performance, and you are talking about a purpose. You had meaning to this, not pressure, not expectation.  You had a purpose doing it for somebody else– something bigger than yourself.” “I think maybe the wrong reason to transfer is maybe if you think everything's supposed to be just 100% perfect, and exactly what you envision. It's just not, and understanding that going into that is important.” “Whether it was this crazy wind that's blowing over, you know, the backdrop at Rio, the green pool, the food, or all these crazy little wrenches thrown into what would have been a perfect plan, we were excited for that. We weren't just okay with it. We were like, ‘This is great'.” “I got off the airplane from Rio…I was listening to pump up music on the flight back. I was just so excited for what was next, and I ended up really burning myself out that next year a little bit for that reason; not taking time to maybe allow that whole situation to sink in and give respect to what had happened.” “I might wake up tomorrow, and I'm going to find out at the same time as everybody else. I'm going to wake up tomorrow, and the Olympics are going to be canceled, you know. All this work, what was it for?” Pursuit of Gold Podcast is brought to you by Kaatsu Global Links: The Pursuit of Gold The Confidence Journal Life at 10 Meters: Lessons from an Olympic Champion Laura Wilkinson Designs- Shop Buy Laura a Coffee Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Connect with Michael: Michael Hixon's Instagram

Drug scandals are unfortunately notorious in sports, as the Beijing Winter Olympics so recently illustrated with its flashbacks to the vast Russian doping scandal of the 2014 Sochi Games. These doping issues have cheated many clean athletes out of their rightful medals and can take several Olympic cycles to sort out, leaving the true champions in the shadow of the doper and their scandal. Today's guest, Allison Wagner, has very personal experience with this issue and is now in a place to start making effective changes in sport for athletes. Allison is an Olympic silver medalist, a three-time World silver medalist, a thirteen-time national champion, and even held a world record in swimming for over fourteen years. On several occasions, Allison was beaten in major championships by swimmers who are highly suspected or have proven to be users of banned performance-enhancing substances. She now works for the US Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) as their first Director of Athlete and International Relations. On today's podcast, Allison shares her story and gives us a basic understanding of how the drug testing process works and our rights as athletes. We also dig into the Russian doping scandal that started way back in 2014 and what we can do as athletes and coaches to affect change. Allison begins the episode with a rundown of her history as an athlete and her personal experience competing against dopers. She shares the frustration of not being protected by those in positions of power and influence and how that led to her current position working for USADA, where she's committed to driving changes in the global anti-doping system. Allison then gives some advice for current athletes on what to do if they find themselves up against dopers and an overview of how doping controls function, including the requirements enforced by the Whereabouts System. She also explains what rights athletes have to appeal in the event they miss a test or receive a positive result. The conversation then switches gears to discuss the Russian doping scandal at the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, the failure to effectively punish those involved, and the negative impact that has had on trust in governing bodies in sport. Alison points out that there are still major issues regarding trust and transparency in sports governance, as highlighted recently with the Kamila Valieva scandal at the 2022 Beijing Games, and calls out the lack of concern and acknowledgment for the harm done to the clean athletes competing against Valieva. She calls for those in positions of power to speak up and take action and suggests ways that athletes can push for change by speaking to their sponsors and representatives, emphasizing that communication is key to making those in power take notice and change their priorities. Episode Highlights: Allison's history as an athlete Competing against dopers as a clean athlete Allison's advice for current athletes on dealing with dopers How doping controls work Athletes' right to appeal Turnaround times for sample analysis The Russian doping scandal at Sochi and its influence Issues of trust and transparency in sports governance The Kamila Valieva scandal How and where change can happen Speaking truth from positions of power How athletes can push for change Quotes: “Over the years, these doping issues have become front and center in the news to the detriment of the clean athletes. Sometimes, several Olympic cycles will pass before athletes are even found to have cheated, and the clean athletes are finally awarded their rightful medals and place on the podium. But that's long after the world has forgotten about the event and moved on, leaving the true champions forever in the shadows of the doper and their scandal.” “That experience, for me, was gradually and more increasingly frustrating and defeating. You know, realizing that my devotion to respecting the rules and a fair playing field and respecting my competitors, you know, that devotion wasn't being protected by those people in positions of power and influence.” “This is how things change, if people get engaged and involved. While there's a lot of room for improvement in terms of how athletes have or don't have power, decision-making power in sport-governance structures, I think it only helps if athletes can engage.” “I had a DCO once accompany me to a theater show. I had just emptied my bladder, and I had tickets to this show. And so, they just came with me. So I could, like, provide a sample again.” “I think that it's pretty unfair as an athlete to have to compete against a system that wasn't effectively sanctioned. And what we see now is that I don't think anybody's really confident that they've not been coordinating doping amongst their athletes. And that any punishment, or the lack of punishment basically, has led us to where we are today.” “It's unfair to everybody. It's unfair to the Olympic Games and the Olympic system overall. You know, people lost confidence in the Olympic Games being clean, they lost confidence that there would be bold action taken in response to the state-sponsored doping that was proved.” “What was concerning to me as well was that there was no acknowledgment for the irreparable harm to the clean athletes in competition, as well. So it was all focused on the harm to Kamila, but what about the harm to the clean athletes and also the sport and the Olympic Games?” “The Olympics in LA in 2028 are going to be a great opportunity for the US to assert concerns and create a new stage for the Olympics that is more dedicated to protecting athletes—clean athletes and athletes in general—from injustices.” “The Olympic spirit, as we know, and the Olympic values are a cherished part of the Olympic movement, I think by everybody, but they're not being sufficiently protected. And the Olympic Games are not being, and the Paralympic Games are not being sufficiently protected.” “Speaking truth is something that takes, you know, courage and boldness, and it's to be respected and supported. And I think we need more people doing that.” “I'm just trying to find a way to change this, you know, I don't want to just leave it the way it is. I love sports, and I want it to be this awesome thing for my kids coming up, for the next generations coming up. I want it to be this beautiful thing that made us fight for things and want to be these amazing people, you know, in this pure, beautiful way.” “What I'm hearing is the moral of the story is we just can't stop pushing. I guess we just need to be this consistent drumbeat where we just don't let it go.” “I've experienced the downsides of sports. And I am happy to keep any concerns confidential. And there will be no selling out on my behalf. Because I just, you know, I paid too high of a cost personally, for what I experienced in sport, to take anything lightly. Most especially confidence.” “We need to start speaking up. We are courageous athletes, we need to be courageous people as well, you know, outside of our arena, outside of the sport, when it has to do with these things like our sport that we love.” “The conversations I have with people from the IOC, WADA, and other sport-governance people is that they just have no idea. You know, they're living in this bubble of unicorns and rainbows, and that is not in touch with the reality of how athletes fight their way through their careers oftentimes. And athletes need more support in lots of ways, and they need more advocates.” Pursuit of Gold Podcast is brought to you by Kaatsu Global. Links: The Pursuit of Gold The Confidence Journal Life at 10 Meters: Lessons from an Olympic Champion Laura Wilkinson Designs- Shop Buy Laura a Coffee Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Allison's Contact Info: Allison's email: awagner@usada.org Allison's phone number: 802-380-0688

You may know today's guest Cecile Landi as Simone Biles' coach or for coaching multiple gymnasts to Olympic medals, World Championship titles, and numerous full-ride scholarships to D1 schools. What you might not know is that Cecile was an Olympian herself; she claims to have been a late-bloomer, but once she made the French Senior National Gymnastics team at fifteen, there was no stopping her. Cecile competed at three European Championships, three World Championships, and the 1996 Olympic Games. She's always up for a challenge and constantly wants to be pushed to the next level in everything she does, yet manages to maintain her calm throughout it all. Today, she walks us through her journey from gymnast to coach and how she and her husband Laurent make an unstoppable coaching duo. She also discusses the difficult time during the Tokyo Olympics last summer and the beautiful silver lining that came from it. Cecile starts the episode with her story of growing up in gymnastics, telling her parents at age seven that she wanted to be an Olympian, and getting invited to the National Team Training Center at age nine. She discusses her transition from not being the hardest worker to deciding she wanted to be pushed to be better and how that let her break through to the Senior National Gymnastics Team. Cecile then gives an insight into her competitive experience, describing her favorite memories of going to her first World Championships and to the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta, before moving on to describe how she decided to continue with gymnastics at the club level following her Olympics experience. She follows that up with the story of how she got into coaching and moved to the US, how she and Laurent balance their professional partnership and their marriage, and their journey to coaching at the elite level, a journey that brought them an amazing opportunity. Cecile and Laurent were on a break from coaching and in the process of buying their own gym when they got a remarkable offer—to coach record-breaking gymnast Simone Biles at the 2021 Tokyo Olympics. Cecile discusses how the couple couldn't turn down the opportunity, how she coped with the pressure of training a superstar, and the impact of the pandemic on their preparations. She also goes into detail about what happened when Simone began experiencing the twisties, including how they dealt with the fallout and put together a beam routine that would win Simone and Team USA a bronze medal. And finally, Cecile discusses her latest success, winning level ten in Texas, and gives her trademark advice to other coaches—be there for your athletes and remember that it's only gymnastics and the sun will rise tomorrow. Episode Highlights: Cecile's experience growing up in gymnastics Breaking through to the national team Cecile's most memorable experiences at the national level Going to the '96 Olympics Choosing to continue in the club world Becoming a coach Moving to the US with Laurent Coaching at the World Olympic Gymnastics Academy How Cecile and Laurent work together and maintain their marriage Stepping up to coaching elite athletes Taking a break in 2017 Getting the call from Simone Biles Coaching Simone and coping with pressure The impact of the pandemic on training What happened at the Tokyo Games Dealing with the fallout of Simone's decision Figuring out the medal-winning beam routine Winning level ten in Texas Cecile's advice for other coaches Quotes: “I started when I was five. And it was just one club in my city of 40,000 people. And I just started because my sister started. She's three years older than me. And by the age of nine, doing some little competition, I ended up being invited to the national team training center.” “I didn't feel pushed. And I wanted to feel it. So we had a couple of Chinese coaches that were there. And they had the best kids. And I wanted my chance to be there. And most of the people there were like, 'I don't think you're going to survive. I don't think you're strong enough to do it.' And actually, it helps me. When someone tells me I can't do it, I'm going to prove to you that I can.” “When I was younger, I wanted to be a nurse like my mom. And then she told me really early on, 'Don't do it, it's too hard, you don't make money, you work too much.' And I look at her now and say, 'Look what I do. I work way too much. I don't make a lot of money. And I'm not a nurse.'” “I have a lot more respect for my coaches and anyone who coaches because it does not get any easier as the years go on. It's just, it's a hard job. It's a hard job. Sometimes, a lot of people think it's a hobby. It's more than that. It has to be more than that.” “Year by year, we just kept working. Kept working with the girls, and they were just learning so fast. And they followed our leads and the process and trusted that we had the best interest for them. And it just worked out.” “We went back to Dallas, and we looked at each other, we're like, man, we can't pass this opportunity. We can always open a gym later. But working with the most talented athlete I've ever seen in my life, it's not going to happen again.” “The pressure for us was toward her, we didn't want to disappoint her. We wanted to make sure she got the chance that she deserved. And other than that, I didn't really care what anyone else was saying. You're not in my shoes, and I do know that I'm doing the best that I can to help her. And as long as she knows that, then the rest doesn't matter.” “The pandemic had been such a mental struggle for everybody, but nobody wanted to talk about it. And I think she was the one who said, ‘Hey, I'm not okay. And it's okay to not be okay. And I'm struggling.'” “We started training, and something was said by our national team staff that she took wrong. And her demeanor changed. And I saw that pressure on her shoulders even showing up more, and she was not practicing as well. And that's when she started having her first case of the twisties on the floor.” “She looked at me, she looked really good. I was pretty confident that, you know, she was okay. But she said as soon as she stepped into the arena and the lights, something just clicked, and she just lost her confidence in everything, and she started panicking, but didn't want to say anything, so went for the vault.” “She said, ‘Those girls, they need a medal, they deserve a medal, and they will get a medal without me. If I compete, we're done.'” “In a sport like gymnastics where, like you said, you're landing on a hard surface, and if you don't know right side up from upside down, and you land on your head, you break your neck, like this could be it, you know, like, like life-altering, ending.” “Understanding what she couldn't do in that moment, to say she couldn't compete, I feel like was a very impressive thing to do. I'm actually really, really impressed by that choice that she made. I think that was really smart. But it had to be excruciatingly hard.” “When she hit that dismount, that was just, the relief, like, she did it, she's safe, she competed the way she wanted to compete. She proved to herself that she could do it, and it's going to help her on the healing process. For me, that was what was important. It was, I know if she can do this, it's going to help her.” “Time will tell what she decides to do. We told her, if you come back again, it has to be for you. Can't be for us, can't be for anyone else but yourself. And we'll be here if you want us to be.” “Even if it's an individual sport, they've noticed that they only get better if the team is better. And so that's why, really, we want them to understand, the stronger your team is, the stronger you're going to be.” “At the end of the day, you are here for the athletes. They're not here for you. You're here for them. It's your job to figure out how you can help them become their best. And the sun will rise tomorrow. It's only gymnastics. It's going to be okay if today is not perfect.” Pursuit of Gold Podcast is brought to you by Kaatsu Global. Links: The Pursuit of Gold The Confidence Journal Life at 10 Meters: Lessons from an Olympic Champion Laura Wilkinson Designs- Shop Laura's Social Media: Laura's Instagram Laura's Facebook Cecile's Social Media: Cecile's Instagram Cecile's Twitter