Podcasts about Brighton High School

The Hercules Federal First Credit Union Salt Lake County Players of the Week for Week 12 of the 2024 Utah High School basketball season were Sophie Nielsen and Bradley Easton from Brighton High School.

The Hercules Federal First Credit Union Salt Lake County Players of the Week for Week 10 of the 2024 Utah High School basketball season were Luke Park from Cottonwood High School and Olivia Stephens from Brighton High School.

Kaz and Tubes are joined live in the studio by Tasmanian Premier Jeremy Rockliff, discussing plans for more housing, the opening of Brighton High School, back to school, and how he's spending the long weekend.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mayor of the Brighton region details the Federal Government's announcement of Ten Million Dollars into the municipality, the upside of the Bridgewater Bridge completion and new Brighton High School students. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Hercules Federal First Credit Union Salt Lake County Co-Players of the Week for Week 13 of the 2024 Utah High School football season was Mason Haertel and Dax Matheson from Brighton High School.

One of Greg's former teammates at Brighton High School happened to call the show

In this episode, we're honored to welcome Matt Jourdan, Engineering Technology Teacher at Brighton High School in Brighton, MI, as our special guest. Join us as we explore Matt's inspiring work in helping students discover their passion for technology, integrating new technologies into education, and preparing students for the modern workforce.    We'll delve into the importance of introducing new technologies in educational settings and the impact it has on student learning and skill development. Matt offers insights into the challenges and opportunities of integrating cutting-edge tools and techniques into the classroom environment.    Whether you're an educator, a parent, or simply passionate about the intersection of technology and education, this episode of Manufacturing Unscripted offers valuable insights and inspiration. Tune in now to join Matthew, Lauren, and Matt as we explore the transformative power of technology in education.  Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/7tsljHHbrhE    Promess    Matt Jourden  Lauren Rall  Matthew Rall    #ManufacturingUnscripted #STEMEducation #TechnologyInEducation #WorkforcePreparation #Engineering #PodcastDiscussion 

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Hosts: Leah Murray and Abby Osborne Wrapping up Utah’s Super Tuesday Caucus night Super Tuesday was one week ago tonight. We all had a different experience: Abby had a good experience - efficient and comfortable. The Republican and Democratic caucuses were put on by the parties and for the first time on Super Tuesday. Hosts Leah Murray and Abby Osborne are joined by a regular guest of the show, Chair of the Utah GOP Robert Axson. Utah officially has a new state flag Several bills have been introduced to the Legislature since 2019 to change the state flag, but all of them failed to pass. Now in 2024, the new flag is official. Utah Senator Dan McCay, who is a supporter of the flag change, joins the show to discuss the meaning behind the new design and what it took to get there. Utah has the lowest energy costs of all states Projections are that Utah will have the lowest electricity rates in the country this year, with the annual costs estimated to be 1.5 times lower than the national average. Hosts Leah Murray and Abby Osborne are joined on the show by Jona Whiteside, Spokesman for Rocky Mountain Power, to break down an analysis of consumer utility cost data. Utah ranks #3 in unaffordable housing in the nation Utah secures a spot near the top of the country’s most expensive real estate markets, ranking third-highest in terms of home price-to-income ratio, trailing only Hawaii and California. Abby Osborne explains what Utah lawmakers have accomplished in the last legislative session to reign in Utah’s inaccessible housing market, and what buyers can hope for in the future.  The Social Harms Campaign One of the biggest issues that Gov. Cox has been trying to address is social media use among children and teens in Utah. In an effort to stop kids from engaging in social media, he launched the Social Harms Campaign last fall. Aimee Winder Newton, Senior Advisor to Gov. Cox and Director of the Utah Office of Families, joins the show to discuss what she hopes to achieve as leader of the campaign. Congress pushes forward with TikTok ban A bipartisan effort is underway by Congress to restrict the social media platform TikTok, and the bill has quickly been gaining traction. However, former President Donald Trump, who has previously vowed to ban the app, made a reversal this week by showing support, claiming the bigger enemy is Meta. Will Trump’s change of opinion affect the bill's momentum? Could Utah teachers benefit from AI feedback? Measuring student engagement has always been a challenge for schools, but a new AI-developed program called TeachFX might be able to provide teachers with authentic, real-time feedback. This new optional program will be available to teachers at Brighton High School in Cottonwood Heights that could record lessons throughout an entire year and compare student and teacher interactions.  Teens say parents have screen time problems, too Trying to maintain healthy screen times amongst teens has perplexed families everywhere, but a new survey from Pew Research Center shows that teens say their parents also struggle with screen distractions. How do parents' and teens' screen problems compare? 

Hosts: Leah Murray and Abby Osborne Measuring student engagement has always been a challenge for schools, but a new AI-developed program called TeachFX might be able to provide teachers with authentic, real-time feedback. This new optional program will be available to teachers at Brighton High School in Cottonwood Heights that could record lessons throughout an entire year and compare student and teacher interactions.

The podcast makes another visit to Salt Lake County. UIAAA Connection #156 – Garrett Wilson, Director of Athletics at Brighton High School is now available. Garrett, who comes from a basketball family, coached basketball at three different high schools since the age of 18.  A newer Athletic Director, his timely advice about getting to know the coaches and helping out with the little things is not to be missed. Please Listen, Learn and Share! You can subscribe to UIAAA TV on YouTube! This podcast is also available on Amazon Music, Apple Podcast,  Breaker, Castbox, Google Podcast, iHeartradio, Overcast, Pocket Casts, RadioPublic, Spotify, Sticher and YouTube.

Students and faculty at Brighton High School are excited to experiment with five new STEM laboratories provided by life sciences company IQHQ.

Bob talked about politics, the speaker of the house, the girl who was kidnapped, Brighton High School, and Monroe County.

Janelle Rigel, student at Brighton High School & future Grand Valley State University student tells her story. She discusses her passion for gymnastics, struggling with identity in High School, growing up in the age of social media & constant comparison, and more in this episode. Janelle was also selected as a participant of the Reaching Higher program at BHS, where she had James as her mentor, and reflects on moments from that program that changed her perspectives & mindset.

The podcast makes another visit to Salt Lake County. UIAAA Connection #115 – Tom Sherwood, Principal at Brighton High School is now available. Tom grew up in Bluffdale and graduated from Bingham High School. A veteran Principal of 15 years, Tom shares his best practices for an Athletic Administrator and a Principal to effectively run a program. He also has a unique perspective from serving on the UHSAA Executive Committee for over a decade. Please Listen, Learn and Share! You can subscribe to UIAAA TV on YouTube! This podcast is also available on Amazon Music, Apple Podcast, Breaker, Castbox, Google Podcast, iHeartradio, Overcast, Pocket Casts, RadioPublic, Spotify, Sticher and YouTube.

On this episode of Inside The Coach's Office we talk with Brighton High School head football coach Brian Lemons. Coach Lemons is also the MHSFCA All-Star Game committee chair. We discuss the upcoming Michigan High School Football All-Star Game.

Intro: teenage hackersLet Me Run This By You: setting limits with KanyeInterview: We talk to Josh Sobel about Cal Arts, Travis Preston, Yale School of Drama, Robert Brustein, Fig and the Wasp, Oberlin College, The O'Neill Theater Center, Michael Cadman, Royal Shakespeare Company, Chicago ensemble theatre, Strawdog Theatre Company, Ianesco's Rhinoceros, Rochester NY, Brighton High School, A Chorus Line, Cabaret, horizontal hierarchies, The Wooster Group, change talk vs. change action, Chris Ackerlind, Light in the Piazza, Paula Vogel's Indecent, Samantha Behr, Haven Chicago, The Den Theater, Rochester Philharmonic, Lorenzo Palomo, Ian Martin, Hal Prince, Dr. Seuss' The Sneetches, John de Lancie, Rochester Academy of Medicine, radiation oncology, The Xylophone West by Alex Lubischer, Isaac Gomez's The Displaced, Center Theatre Group, Jeremy O'Harris' Slave Play, Rashaad Hall, Chris Jones' review of Ms. Blakk for President.FULL TRANSCRIPT (unedited):3 (10s):And I'm Gina Pulice.1 (11s):We went to theater school together. We survived it, but we didn't quite understand it.3 (15s):20 years later, we're digging deep talking to our guests about their experiences and trying to make sense of it all.1 (21s):We survived theater school and you will too. Are we famous yet?2 (32s):I think, I think my son has fig he's gotten into sort of like the hacking side of things and he always wants to get around all of the restrictions we put on him. Like we have content restrictions, we have time limits. And I think he's just made it his mission. I mean, this is like the theme of his life. He has made it his mission to subvert the paradigm as my husband would say. And it's exhausting because all I can do is try to be like 10 steps behind them and learn like what's a VPN. That's what I, I think what he did. I think he installed a VPN to bypass the internet control that I have.2 (1m 20s):Oh1 (1m 20s):My God.2 (1m 22s):And it somehow how that relates to, I can watch, I couldn't tell you. I can tell you that if I turn off the wifi, I can watch it on my cellular data.4 (1m 33s):It's insane.2 (1m 35s):Yeah. It's, it's beyond insane. I, and you know, I like, I'm always on this thing where I'm vacillating between letting it go and just trying harder to, you know, impose the limit. I mean, you, I wouldn't, before I had kids, I would not have imagined it was this hard to impose limits on people, you know, because you don't want them to not have what they want. Right.4 (2m 6s):Right.2 (2m 7s):And, and it's a real battle to like, make myself, give myself and my children limits. It's really hard.4 (2m 17s):My God. Yeah. Yeah. And the other thing I'm stuck on, it's like maybe there was okay. I think I'm like trying to figure out the thing, which is like, I know what I think I know what happened. So you have restrictions on content. Like, and I think a genius, the Kanye trilogy, like completely has all those triggers in it. Like all the things are in it. There's sex, suicide. There's, there's, it's all the things you, I wouldn't want a susceptible teenager to watch. Right. Like just for various reasons, not, not for anything other than triggers. Right. So like my nieces and nephew, the same thing, so, okay.4 (2m 57s):So then you set that right? And you're like, no, no, but then the kid or anyone can get a VPN, which then resets, I think the con, but I think you're still on the, you're still, you're still on the content warning site, which is blocking genius. You from watching genius. That is fucking, I mean, it's kind of genius in a way, but it's also so infuriating. It's like, come on, dude. I'm just trying to watch my fucking Kanye west bullshit.2 (3m 26s):It's literally just this race of like today I'm on top. And then the next day it's like, oh my God, they, they, they run the show. I'll never forget. There was a scene in the first season of the Sopranos where Tony and Carmel are having a problem with Anthony, or maybe it was with the daughter, a meadow and they're in their bedroom. And he goes, if she finds out, we have no power. We're screwed. And I laughed. It was the time I had watched it after I had teenagers. Yeah. Like that's what it is. We actually have no power. And yet the, the, the con that we're forced to do is pretend like we have all the power.2 (4m 12s):It's4 (4m 13s):Like2 (4m 13s):Covering4 (4m 14s):A metaphor also for life about like my mom's friend sent me something that said, you know, I forget it was like her friend had passed away and it's not fair and it's not fair. And I, and it isn't, and that's the thing. Like it, the truth is not fair. Like it sucks. But like, and, and we pretend that things are fair because if we don't, it's absolute chaos. Like if we didn't pretend really that red means stop and green means go, we'd have a real fucking problem. If we all rebelled and said, you know what, fuck you, green means go. And red means stop. And we all sent a mass media thing around.4 (4m 56s):There would be chaos. It would be2 (5m 13s):The bus. And I guess that's just the headline right there. That's like the headline in the story. Like you took the bus from LA to San Fran, Fran, because gas is so expensive.4 (5m 22s):Well, many things. Okay. So driving, it's really a grind on the five coming home, especially it's like, so rough, like, it can be a nine hour instead of five, six hours situation. It's crazy. Cause the five sucks. So, so that was the first like, and then gas. So I wasn't gonna drive cause I did the drive Thanksgiving and it was like, oh God. And then, so I was like, okay, well I'll, I'll just, I I'll fly. But then I'm afraid to fly. Even though the flight is literally 45 minutes. And then I was like, okay, but then because of gas, I said, okay, I'm going to just get my balls into it. I'm going to build up my balls and I'm going to fly. But then because of gas, you know, does jets use gas fuel though?4 (6m 6s):The flights really went up six San Francisco. You shouldn't even get a flight for a hundred bucks on Southwest round trip, like 120. No, no, two 20. So I'm like, oh no. So then I say, okay, well I'll take my Amtrak. Of course, which is actually what I, what I looked at first. But the track of it, it's a beautiful ride. It takes forever, but it goes up the coast and it's gorgeous. And you can like bid to get a fancy room,2 (6m 28s):Right? Yeah.4 (6m 29s):Well, okay. Well the tracks being repaired, so then you'd have to take a Greyhound. I'm not taking a Greyhound. So then I was like, okay, what would it take a fancy bus? And it's a flick2 (6m 38s):Of a fancy4 (6m 39s):Flex bus flicks. And Flix is big in Europe and they're charter buses and they have bathrooms and it's like assigned seating. And I bought two seats because I was like, fuck you. And it's so inexpensive, but still listen. I just, you know, and I worked, my dad was an addict. I have food addict issues. I get addicts. So don't come. People don't come at me for saying this. But the bus is a place where heroin, heroin, addicts thrive. Like that2 (7m 9s):Is the heroin addict doing on the4 (7m 11s):Bus nodding out. So there's two, there was a couple and I was like, oh, these are heroin addicts. They just looked so like, their luggage was all fucked up. They couldn't barely get on the bus. They were fighting young people, LA style tattoos. Fine. I am tattoos. It's not that they, but it was like this very specific look thin bedraggled, but not, not, not a curated look like more like, I'm just fucked up inappropriate clothing for the weather. Like big. Although in San Francisco is cold. Maybe they need something. I didn't know. They had like heavy coats on it's like 90 degree, all their shit. Right? Like they're, you know, I've got one little carrier. They've got like bags, like big things.4 (7m 52s):Okay. And that you can check, but you have to pay more for it. And their suitcases are falling apart. Okay. Fine. But they have cell phones, which is so, but a lot of people have cell phones. I mean, I I'm always shocked when people have cell phones that look like they shouldn't, I'm like, what? How do you maintain that? But anyway, so they get on an immediate, they sit in the, they got the seats in the way back, which is like a little bigger, but also your brother bathroom's gross, but they just not out immediately. They get on and like midfoot, mid fighting. They just like pass out and I'm like, oh my God. Like not out like out. And then don't wake up until we get there. Like literally it's an eight hour ride.4 (8m 32s):They don't get up at all.2 (8m 35s):Wow. They'd probably been awake. Yeah. Or I guess maybe not4 (8m 41s):How2 (8m 42s):It works with the4 (8m 42s):Heroin. Well, it depends like, I mean,2 (8m 44s):Not the heroin.4 (8m 46s):That's my new band name. That's our new band name. The heroin's got mics on two levels.2 (8m 51s):Yeah,4 (8m 53s):That was good. Gina. Okay. So no for me and my, my, my clients were a lot of them on heroin. And what would happen is like, you can't always get heroin. Right. Because it's expensive. And because I mean, it's cheaper than whatever, but it's expensive. And then, so you go without it and you start to detox and then you're up, you can't sleep. You're a mess. And then when you finally score again or whatever, get your heroin, then you just feel great for about half an hour. Then you pass out. It's just so it's such a waste, but okay. It's a process.2 (9m 25s):You know, although I would never want to be a heroin addict. I will say something like what's occurring to me. As you're talking about this couple is like, you know how with addicts, their life is very focused around just scoring or whatever. So to be able to have your life goals in these little chunks is really appealing to me.4 (9m 47s):Yeah. Well, it's a very, very, very specified job2 (9m 52s):World. Right? You make, I think when you're a heroin addict, you must have a really small world and your objectives are like, get score. That's at a place to4 (10m 1s):Sleep and don't get arrested and don't2 (10m 3s):Get, don't get arrested. Like there's something and I, I'm sorry to be cheeky about it. Cause people have really suffered with heroin addiction. I, I'm not suggesting that people, anybody should be an addict. I'm just saying like the idea4 (10m 14s):Yeah. To you. It's like, yeah, me too.2 (10m 17s):Actually even just the other day I was thinking I was watching somebody who had, what I imagined was probably a minimum wage job. And I don't remember what the job was now, but I just, I was looking at the person doing their tasks and I was thinking, yeah, maybe I should get a job like that. You know? And then 30 seconds in, I'm really trying to imagine myself. And I'm like, what am I talking about? Oh, people don't love working at McDonald's. Don't love, you know, whatever the4 (10m 47s):Jobs. And I will in, in adulthood in 30 dumb, in 40 dumb, like the last one I had at that fucking donut shop, I was like, oh, this seemed quaint. The chef was a jerk. I got in like a fight with the chef was so rude. Like here I am 42, right. Or 43 or something. And I was working at this place in Rogers park for like cash only under the table owned by these two young SIRS. They, whatever their business was working. But like the fucking chef was like talking shit about me. Like,2 (11m 23s):Is that a doughnut chef? No,4 (11m 28s):I should have said that. No, they also serve sandwiches. That's brilliant. That's brilliant. I was2 (11m 33s):Just thinking to myself, like, do you have to be a chef?4 (11m 36s):No, that's hilarious. But she was like, or they were, they were talking shit about me. And I was like, oh no, no, no. And I was basically volunteering there. I was so outraged. I was like This person that2 (11m 51s):To read an essay about that, you've got, write an essay about your donut shop stint.4 (11m 55s):Oh, I will. And I want to name names. They were fucking assholes. And also they, like, when I went to confront the PR, like I was like, I like when you walk behind someone you're supposed to stay behind. Right. But if you've never worked in the restaurant industry that does not come naturally. And also I'm really fast moving. So like I just met, she goes, you have to stay behind. And I was like, oh my God, I'm gonna fucking kill you. And then she would under her breath talk shit to me about to the other people. And so, and so I finally, you get them, you get them every time, this way. So I pulled the owner aside and I was really upset, like crying because she was treating me like shit. And I said, listen, what the fuck is this? And then the next, the person wanted to then that the owner was like, look, this lady is doing as a favor by working here basically because we have no one and she's working on under the table.4 (12m 42s):So then the, the, the person wanted to talk to me, the chef and I talked to her, I'm like what? She goes, I'm sorry. If I come off a little, I go, oh no, no, you don't come off. You are. And I said, I don't know what's happening here. I'm like, just try to do my job and go the fuck home and make my money to pay my cell phone bill, bitch. Like I wrote that and then I just quit. I was like, fuck all. Y'all. So, no, it sounds really quaint, which is why I fucking get those jobs. And then you get in there and you're like, oh, this is how on earth.2 (13m 11s):Oh God, I am sure it was, I4 (13m 15s):Don't do2 (13m 15s):It. Yeah, no, no, I won't. I will not do it. It just, it just periodically, it just occurred to me4 (13m 20s):Because there's a set skill set set of tasks that no one eat you ma I imagine that no one is like on their high horse. No, no. People are still on their fucking high horse in minimum wage jobs. There's a hierarchy of fucking assholes anywhere you've.2 (13m 37s):But then I did get to watch the third episode of the Kanye documentary and then, okay, well, I didn't finish it though. I'm only like 20 minutes into it. It's so sad. Right? It's going to go on. It's going to turn4 (13m 50s):It. It does. But in also in an unexpected way, what I will say, I think we should talk about the third episode next time. Okay.2 (13m 58s):But4 (13m 59s):The first two, for me, fucking amazing in the storytelling, whether, regardless of how I feel about Kanye west, which I don't feel any kind of way other than, I mean, I just, I I'm talking about the, since we're about to make a documentary, right? Like I'm looking at, I love the first two. I love cooties filmmaking. And the first two episodes, it then takes a turn on the third, but like the first two are so packed with information and visuals and, and storytelling.4 (14m 39s):Like, I loved it. You and you also get a S he such a great job of like showing a slice of time, you know, and, and, and all the characters in it and real life people we know and get glimpses of. And I just thought, and for me, the most moving part of it, I mean, I have real lot of feelings about Donda and Connie's relationship and Donda herself. I have a lot of diagnoses for both of them, but I'm not, you know, like, I feel like she's got bipolar. Like, I think there's a whole thing going on there, but what I found, I have never, I have never been so moved for, for the hustle and the perseverance of a human being and the just sort of neutral and unwavering.4 (15m 32s):We know it's not really true, but like they're like, but the unwavered, what I saw was an unwavering unshakable, almost naive belief in oneself.2 (15m 42s):This is what I wanted to talk to you about. This is what I wanted to run by you. Cause the, the connection between talking about that, me working on the documentary and, and this a, I agree with you, Cody is an amazing documentarian. And we could totally learn a lot from the way that he weaved his own personal story into that, his relationship with this, you know, mega personality. But yeah, you know, the scene where he's talking to a bunch of kids and he's, he's talking about self-compassion, I mean, he, he has a point, you know, what, what should you, you created an amazing piece of art and somebody compliments you on it and you you're supposed to pretend like you're dumb.2 (16m 29s):You all, you don't agree that it's, that it's amazing. You know, like there's something to be said for that. And there's something to be said for what you're just describing the unshakable confidence, but I want to hear what your thoughts are about their relationship.4 (16m 45s):It was interesting to watch the process of what I would call a simultaneous process of infantilizing him as well as idolizing him as well as parental defying him, as well as believing in him. It's a combo platter. And I believe from watching her and watching what I noticed in her mannerisms and his that I think they both had a mania thing going on, like in her eyeballs. So I have become really good at looking at people's eyeballs.4 (17m 26s):And I notice in the documentary, as it goes along when Kanye is manic, his voice goes up in pitch and his eyeballs looked different and she had this eyeball situation, which is this sort of darty, Desperate eyeballs. And I noticed it in my clients all the time and I'd be like, oh, they're manic, they're manic. It's not an, and it's like, hypomania, it's not for her. But like, I saw that in her. And I was like, oh, like, what's happening? Where am I going? What's happening? Who can I okay. And, and covered with a bit of like, you know, self-help, you can do it this and perseverance, but it's, it's all a combo platter, but that was my take.4 (18m 15s):What was on their relationship was like a, I need you, you need me, what's happening. I'm worried about you, but I'm going to then hope that by, by really pumping you up, that I'm going to pump up the mental illness away.2 (18m 31s):. Yeah. Well, I, I agree with what you say about the, their relationship, their dynamic, and it makes sense that yeah, maybe she had a touch of the bipolar too. What I was thinking about it is, and like I say, I haven't gotten through the third episode, but what I was thinking is it's so evident how meaningful their relationship was to both of them, but in this case for, for him and that he could just maybe spend the rest of his life, chasing that relationship, chasing a woman who will fall over him, the way that she did.2 (19m 14s):I mean, really what it seems like, what he needs is a person who kind of use it as their sole purpose in life to, to, to support his genius, which is why he probably makes a terrible partner, But that the, she gave him like this, like she was mainlining love to.4 (19m 35s):Yeah.2 (19m 37s):And you know, he's unlikely to find that any place else. Right,4 (19m 41s):Right.2 (19m 41s):But he's still looking, I think, Well,4 (19m 46s):And then it's really interesting. So like Cody gave up his whole life to, to follow him and it wasn't enough. Like it, it becomes not enough. And then when the person literally is removed by death, then what do you do is what we're seeing in the documentary. But like the it's, it's a it's, it's so fucked up because I, I feel like from watching from the outside, she must've felt like she was his only hope. Right. Which is which, okay. Which I'm sure is it's2 (20m 18s):Hard to me was her only hope.4 (20m 19s):No, she was, she's like, I'm my son's only advocate. Right? My old, his only hope for love and happiness comes from me ultimately. And whatever went down in his childhood, I have to make up for what other, all of them, with the other, all the mothers stuff happens. Right. I can imagine. And then it's like, yeah, it sets him up to be, like you said, chasing that the rest of his entire life. And she's not going to be around forever. And she did the best she could. And she did so much compared to what a lot of people do. And he's, it's just, it, you throw in mega stardom in there and it is a recipe for absolute meltdown.2 (21m 6s):It actually, it really relates to the thing we were talking about when we started talking today, which is about limits and limit setting. And I think I mentioned to you that I'm also reading this book about Sandy hook conspiracy and the straight line between Sandy hook conspiracy and the January 6th instruction. But in the part of the book where they're talking about Adam Lanza and his mother, I hadn't heard this before that, you know, he, he he'd been flagged in the psychiatric system, you know, going back since he was a young boy and I don't know why she opted out of treatment for him. But what I do know from this book is that what she strove to do was keep meeting his needs wherever they were.2 (21m 53s):But because he was so mentally ill, his needs were things like w w when he had his, the intake at Yale, the clinician noted that he said to his mother, you need to stand with no part of your body touching the wall and that she just did it. And that at home, it had gotten too, there were things he couldn't have cooking odors, curtains, door knobs.4 (22m 23s):Yeah.2 (22m 24s):And she just kept meeting the need. And this was something that I really relate to. Hopefully I have not going off the rails like that, but when your child is suffering and what they're telling you is I want this thing, the decision to say, I know better than you. You think you want this thing, but that is not the right thing for you and for that child to be screaming in your face or not. But, you know, with all of their energy, all of their conviction, they're coming to you saying no, this with my kids, it's the screens.2 (23m 4s):No, I need my screen time. And I'm going. Yeah. But you, you can't know what I know, which is that you, it's not good for you. It's simply not good. And it's just so hard to tolerate when your child is enraged or hurt by you4 (23m 22s):Suffering the suffering.2 (23m 24s):So nobody said any limits for Kanye, and he's now floating like a balloon in the ether, right?4 (23m 32s):Yeah. It's, it's really bad. He's now he's now has restraining orders. And now he's got the Grammy said he can't perform there. So now the limits are being imposed that are huge. And I don't know what's going to, and I also, from working in Hollywood, what I noticed was it is so easy when you have money and power yeah. To, to develop a team that will, will do what you're saying. That, that Adam Lanza's Mrs. Or miss Lanza did. It's so easy to have that bought and built in.2 (24m 15s):And I will tell you this, my, one of my very most successful treatments that I did when I was at private practice therapist is I treated somebody with very, very severe borderline personality disorder. And it was a kind of situation where the client would quit all of the time, you know, quit, quit therapy. And then, and then you would do this dance of like, they, you know, they don't really mean it. So you don't, you don't give up their appointment time because they're going to show up. Sometimes they're going to show up and act like nothing happened. Like they never said they were going to quit. So with this one person that I've been working with for a really long time, and we had a good relationship, which, which is to say yes, she was very, very sick.2 (25m 4s):And she was very, very difficult, but also she had so many great qualities that it kept me. Like, it kept me really invested in her, but the 50th time or whatever it was that she quit after I, she was also in this group that I was running and she like got violent Sharna in the group and left and whatever. Anyway, this time around, when she quit treatment, I said, okay, we're done now. And then she showed up for her next appointment. And I said, no, we're, we're done now. And that precipitated a year long hospitalization for her, but this person is now doing amazing, honestly.2 (25m 49s):And I knew in her family dynamic, her parents were afraid to set limits with that because she was a very, very strong personality, but it was only through the limit setting anything. It had to go all the way to the end, right. For her and, and to, to reject and decry and be victimized and blah, blah, blah, for then her to like follow her dream College. She, she, I can't say what it is obviously, but she has a job that was the job of her dreams and that she learned, she only discovered was the job of her dreams in treatment and that she could have only gotten to do after having really had to contend with actually living with the limit.0 (26m 42s):Well,3 (26m 55s):Today on the podcast, we are talking to Josh . Josh is graduating this year with his MFA in directing from Cal arts. And he formerly had a whole career in Chicago as artistic director of the Haven in Chicago. And he has a lot of interesting insights about his experience of being in school again, after having well launched into his career. So please enjoy our conversation with Josh Sobel.2 (27m 36s):So Josh was just explaining the Cal arts is, I was saying, is it a conservatory? And he was saying, it's an art school in the truest sense. So go ahead and repeat what you're saying.6 (27m 44s):Yeah. So like Travis, who's an alum of like Yale back from the Robert Brustein days of Yale. He he's like, look, Yale school of drama is always considered like, Ooh, Yale school of drama, but he's like, if you think about it within the larger Yale structure, you've also got like the business school and like, you've got the journal, you've got the medical school, you've got all these things. So like within the theater universe, it's huge, but within the structure of the university, it Yale, you know, and so the beauty of Cal arts in a way is that it exists outside of that larger sort of academic structure. It isn't part of a university. It is an art school with a theater department.6 (28m 27s):And there's something that, that is really freeing honestly about that. And the Cal arts in particular sort of leaned into in terms of its sort of generative and, and experimental sort of Ben it's, it's been an interesting experience. Yeah, please.2 (28m 45s):Gina Bridget went there. Yes. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I think she's the another co Cal arts alum we have.6 (28m 51s):Well, and it's funny, cause you mentioned they were an acting alum and the acting program I have to say is in particular fascinating and unique. And I love it because unlike a lot of programs I've encountered and I've like taught in academia a little bit before I went in, before I started as a student in it, it's like very few programs encouraged teach and want their actors to be generative artists in their own. Right. And bring that to the table in the room. And honestly, as a director, I'm like, it's a gift. It is such a goddamn gift in terms of the collaborative process. Like I, I can sometimes when I'm hitting my own moment, like really feel comfortable being like, I need like a physical gesture representing a panic attack in slow motion that moves across the stage this way, take third, take 30 minutes.6 (29m 44s):Here's some music and an object.4 (29m 46s):Oh God, that sounds like the greatest thing I've ever heard.6 (29m 51s):I did something similar with a particular actor in my thesis show thesis show, quote unquote. And like she killed it. Oh my God. Avalon Greenberg call. She's about to graduate from the BFA program and she's, or a couple of years. And she's incredible. But like she ran with it and these actors are sort of prepared to take that and like, just make shit and be like, is this what it is? What does it need? And then I can sit there and like sculpt, we can then like work together to be like, Ooh, let's expand that moment out. Let's tighten that bit. And we're then working collaboratively on this other thing.4 (30m 25s):So amazing Josh, like, like I, I, I do this every time we talked to someone that I really like, and I like their vibe and I like how they're talking about their education. I'm like, oh, I'm going to apply there. And then I remember that I did apply to Cal arts for undergrad and I got a call back, which was like the greatest thing, because I was a terrible actor. And I like in the truest sense, like what you're talking about, I would have been like, so, so I am, so I am so glad to talk to you because I, when you say things like that, about how you direct as well, and I'm not a director, Gina directs, I don't direct, but like I want to work with someone who says shit like that.6 (31m 7s):Well, I, I really, I don't know. It's funny. I, you know, outside of like grad school, when I was in undergrad, I went to undergrad at Oberlin college, which is really sort of a diamond in the rough school for theater. It's like, and it's a lot of OBS do well out there. And it's weird because it's like, it's not known, but it's really good. But while I was there, I also did a semester at the O'Neill and I don't know if you're familiar, the national theater Institute. Yeah. So I, I did fall 2007 and like, I really lucked out my partner and I were a year apart actually, before we ever met weird small world, but we both walked out because we've got there right at the time as this particular artistic director was there, Michael Cadman, who was a, an alum himself of the Royal Shakespeare company.6 (31m 52s):And like he understood ensemble. It's funny. Cause I always like, what am I, I love Chicago and I miss Chicago so much, but one of my like little gripes with Chicago is that the word ensemble gets thrown out a4 (32m 6s):Lot.6 (32m 7s):And I, I have a very particular opinion about that because it's like, I think ensemble sometimes it's just meant to mean or thought to mean like a collection of actors, you know, or the company members, you know, the, the Steppenwolf ensemble or the straw dog or whatever. And I'm like ensemble is a value. I think ensemble is, is some it's about how one sits in the middle of a collaborative process. It's about how the threads are drawn. Not even just in the actors, it's about the threads are drawn outside to stage management, to producing, to designers, to everything. Like, and we're all coming together to sort of generate something together, right?6 (32m 49s):Like that's ensemble and Michael understood more than anyone I've ever met in my life. Like how to nurture, how to build, how to find the ensemble impulse in people. And he would just build semesters of the young students and sort of demonstrate that for for four months. And yeah, that's sort of been a foundational thing from that point forward. So I'm, I'm always ready to like chill for the O'Neil. Like, I love the, I love being,2 (33m 16s):Yeah. I actually live kind of near there. I live in Connecticut. Yeah. Oh, that's6 (33m 21s):Brilliant.2 (33m 21s):So you just made me think about something. Has any group of theater artists ever called the ensemble? Also the, the whole entire staff, like everybody on crew, because it is such a group effort. And we as act, this is one of the big things about, you know, going through an acting program, you just, and maybe it was just me, but you just think like, it's all about this. It's all about the actors and you just think everybody else is there supporting what you're doing.4 (33m 55s):Well,6 (33m 56s):It treats it like a technical term, right? It's like, it's a category. And rather than like, no, it's actually about an energy. It's about a trust. It's about something else. And I will say to answer your question like that w when I was a strong dog ensemble member, that that was one of the things I loved most about being on the straw dog ensemble was you had designers, you had managers, you had people like from every aspect of the creative process, sort of understood as part of the ensemble. It was all framed that way.4 (34m 24s):It's interesting. Like, I feel like what happens maybe is like, so take Steppenwolf because everyone talks about Steppenwolf as the original ensemble, which really you're right. A side note tends to mean in Chicago. And I can say this because I'm from there means that nobody is prettier or more famous than, than other actors. Like, that's what they mean by ensemble. Like that's how people talk about that. They're like, no, this is an ensemble piece. Meaning that even though you're really pretty, you're not going to be the star, like to someone, they never say that to me. You know what I mean? Okay. But anyway, side note, but ensembles. So when it's interesting, because it's like when a theater gets bigger, meaning a broader audience, more money, I feel like there becomes a really strong, clear delineation between technical staff and the actors.4 (35m 15s):And it comes, becomes compartmentalized probably because they have to run a freaking business with a multimillion dollar budget as we're like straw, dog. Like you can kind of stay it's like that storefront. It kind of, you can really get in there, which is how stepping will start it. So I think what we're talking about is the capitalization of the,6 (35m 33s):Oh, always, I mean, honestly, always all the time,4 (35m 37s):But yeah, but I'm, I'm curious about she and Gina, did you say2 (35m 42s):I did and I'm so sorry. I forgot to say Josh Sobell congratulations. Your surviving theater school. You're almost done4 (35m 49s):Art school theater school, you know, it's all the thing, but yeah. So I wanted to ask, I guess, take it back before I get on the runaway train of like, did you start out as a direct, like where you would act what's what was your path to the school of Cal arts? I guess6 (36m 7s):I've, I've been a director most of the time. I of course did a little bit of actually got rather late. Like I'm not one of those people who was like really involved in a lot of things when I was really, really little, but I had sort of a formative experience in high school as an audience member. My school was really remarkable. I, I unfortunately should catch up with them and see what they're doing in their theater department. But at the time, like we were a high school that was doing like Ian ESCO and Tom Stoppard and shit. Like, it was pretty cool. I assistant directed rhinoceros my senior year of high school, like Steve Rochester, New York, right in high school, shout out to Steve angle, Mr. Angle.6 (36m 47s):He was incredible. He also was the AP lit teacher and ran an incredible AP lit class. Like, oh my God, we, we read and watched just incredible stuff. And so actually his show, but he was one of the other directors there did chorus line and they did like an unedited chorus line in high school, which I also very much admired. And Paul's monologue hit me like eight when I don't know how familiar you are with, with the show. But like, you know, it's a classic Broadway, 1970s. It was sort of groundbreaking at the time because it was all real interviews of people who were all fighting chorus.6 (37m 27s):Of course, Paul Paul's monologue when he sort of finally breaks down and tells the story about his, his parents meeting him at the drag show in the back of, I lost it. Like I was a weeping mess. I don't know. And I had not had that particular experience before. And I walked out, I remember going home nerdy, like misfit fucking high school student hadn't found themselves yet and was like, I feel different. I don't know how I don't, I can't quantify it, but I feel like I am moving through the world differently than I was before I had that experience.6 (38m 8s):Wow. I want to do that. And that was, that was the moment. And so I started auditioning a little bit, but I always got interested in directing because I, it was the idea of like creating that holistic experience for an audience member, the way it was created for me. And so we also had, I think it was like an official partnership, like you could license with the 24 hour plays in New York. So my high did the 24 hour plays every year. And so I would stay overnight at the fucking school and, and do and direct. And that was sort of my first directing configuration. I was terrible. God. And my first few shows like first few shows at Oberlin were terrible.6 (38m 55s):Why, why? Oh my God, too, in my own head, I'm still too in my own head. It's the main thing I'm working on. I'm a very cerebral artist and that's not necessarily a bad thing. I just am seeking balance. That's part of the reason I went to Cal arts and Kellogg's was actually really the right choice for that in a lot of reasons to sort of break down some of my more cerebral and rigid habits. But I just didn't like, I, I was in my own way. It was that classic. Like it, my insecurity, I was second guessing. I was, it was actually Michael Cadman. It was the O'Neil. That was the turning point of that as well. So like I, anyways, I went through high school, got into it, went to Oberlin, was sort of jumping between theater and film got focused in theater because I liked the linearity of the process.6 (39m 40s):It just fit my brain better. You can really build the Dominos in order and watch them fall. And I love that from a process standpoint, joy. And so I went to the O'Neill and I was still like, I was overthinking and I was over like complicating and convoluting and Michael Cadman who I'm the final day of the program. I was like, you asshole, you couldn't have said this to me like weeks ago. I'm the final day of the program was like, you're very, very smart stop trying so hard to prove it.7 (40m 19s):Ah,6 (40m 20s):And that was, that was another game changing moment for me. And I, I started sort of stepping back and letting myself have more fun with it and just found myself sort of like what were my passion projects? What were the things that made me feel the way I did it, chorus line in a way. And my first show back in undergrad was a cabaret. And that was, that was a really huge, huge show for me. And I was very proud of that show and still have, like, I watched the video sometimes I was like, oh God, those transitions fucking suck. But, but yeah, directing, directing has always been sort of my thing because of that idea of like, I get to sort of, I don't know.6 (41m 4s):I, I, it's funny because so many people think about directing in this very hierarchical standpoint, right? Like they like the sort of like top-down, they get to sit at the head of the thing and create their vision. I challenged that constantly. And it's funny because people think by challenging that you give up the sort of directorial authority I call bullshit. I I'm interested in what I like to refer to as horizontal hierarchy. I say, I refer to it. I didn't invent the phrase, but like I've sort of taken it and I really love applying it to collaboration. I like the idea that as the director, I'm sort of sitting in the middle, I'm the same plane as everyone else surrounded by all of these brilliant fucking artists.6 (41m 48s):And I get to be like, Ooh, yes, it's a bit of that. It's not quite that. Can we bring it over there? I, yes, let's bring that in and pulling all of it towards the middle. And I still get to, by virtue of being in the center of a doll, just make decisions I get to make, be the arbiter of the quote, unquote vision or whatever you want to call it. But it's not that it breaks down the hierarchy in a way I'm not above anyone else that doesn't have to be my idea. It has to be the coolest idea. And so by sitting in the middle of it, I just get to sort of help tie the threads together in a way that feels like the audience experience we're going for. Like, that's my job to God.4 (42m 30s):Interesting. So it's so, oh yes. And I'm so curious as to why more directors don't do a horror. Is that, is it just an ego thing? A horizontal.6 (42m 47s):Yeah. Yeah. I think there's a lot of fear. There's a lot of like, I'm not even going to call it insecurity. Cause I actually think that doesn't do it justice and I think it's too easily dismissible. I think it's fear. I think there's a lot of fear. I mean, if I'm really Frank, I'm confronting it in certain areas of my program right now.4 (43m 25s):Okay. Wait, so you're saying that I just want to reiterate for my own brain because this happens all the time in all organizations across the board. So I'm really, and we're like, we were talking about it yesterday sort of. So, so you, you, you, there is an atmosphere of like, we want to make change, right.6 (43m 43s):Faded a stated goal,4 (43m 46s):Right? Not an atmosphere. Okay. So a stated goal, which a lot of theaters that I am familiar with and institutions are making these statements right now that the statement on paper or on the web or wherever it is saying, we want to take your feedback and make change. And it usually revolves around the word change. Like we're open to change. And if we're always, if we're honest, nobody's fucking open to change. We fucking,6 (44m 14s):And that's what we're talking about. It's the same fear to me. It's the same fear that you find in directing. It's a fear of some, some kind of loss of authority. It's a fear of some kind of loss of control. It's the fear of, I don't know. And it's so funny, like all of the ways you encounter it, because then yeah, you go and you actually say, here's the thing. And like I did this recently and I got yelled at, I got, and again, I've been, I've been working in Chicago theater for a decade before this. I don't give a shit. I was an artistic director, right. Like I was artistic director of Haven, Chicago. I don't like, this is, I don't need your ego. So I think it was actually kind of fun.6 (44m 56s):I think whether it's directing, whether it's artistic directors and institutional leadership, whether it's corporate leadership, whether it's, it's all of this, it's, it's, it's a full each year that, that somehow you're going to lose your Control.4 (45m 10s):This is so classic in, in terms of, so Gina and I were both therapists for years and look, and obviously we were children of parents. So I would go to my mom and say, this is the exact same thing. I would go to her and say, Hey mom, you're pretty abusive verbally. And she would say, but I'm the best mom. I know how to be. And at least you're not being beaten. Like I was beaten. And I'm like, okay. Yes, true. That all that is true. I, and you're still abusive to me. You're hurting me and sh and whether or not you want to make changes. That's the thing.4 (45m 50s):So we, we are literally reenacting parent child relationships in every walk of life. Like this sounds like a conversation a kid might have with their father where the father is like, well, I provide, we we're great.6 (46m 8s):And it's not about perfection. Like, it's not about like everyone and just like, we're all human beings. Right? Like I, I never wanted to feel like, and that's sometimes my problem with like, like I'm, I'm as left to center as you can get in a lot of ways, but it's like my one problem with sometimes a lot of left wing stuff is w where it's like, I think there is a purism that sometimes get, gets into it. And it's like, no, like we're all fucking human beings, right? If we believe in the ability to change and restorative justice and all of these things, then we have to actually believe that people can improve and get better. But it's like, there needs to be that honest interest in improving and getting better. There needs to be that genuine interest in it. And it's like, it's one of the things I was really proud of that we built it at Haven in Chicago with4 (46m 47s):Such a great theater. Gina Pavan is amazing. We're going to be there in the summer. So maybe we'll check it.6 (46m 53s):Ian Martin, like it's so funny. Cause it was such a, it was also a gift to really be able to do a transition process with Ian, you know, cause we really tried to be in, I've been part of some really unintentional transition processes. So like there were a lot of reasons where I really felt like Ian was exactly like, not, it wasn't even about sustaining what Haven had been doing. It was about how do we build and evolve on what Haven had been doing. And so Ian was sort of perfect. And we built the structure that you don't see very often where I, he was, yeah, he was my art, my associate artistic director for half the final season. And then we switched and he became artistic director and I was his associate artistic director for the other half of the season.6 (47m 36s):So he could have the responsibility and be in the decision-making position, but have the institutional memory sort of right at hand. And then it's like, and then I step away. So like I bring that up because there was an intentionality that we tried to bring to, like, we're going to be a theater company, let's be a theater company. Like you mentioned the business. Like let's, let's try to be a business, but let's try to be a next generation business.2 (48m 2s):And by the way, statements statements are to change as you know, sex is to relationships. Like it's a good start, but like you have to do more6 (48m 12s):Exact than just exactly.4 (48m 13s):So I guess the question is, what is it for me for me anyway? What is it in you, Josh? That is the kind of person because what is it? And there's a reckoning, obviously that I talk about a lot in, in terms of American theater and theater in general and the movie industry, the reckoning that's coming or in is, is that part of your drive right now to do this? Or it sounds like you've always been this sort of way, but why the fight? What, what, what about the fight?6 (48m 43s):Yeah, I think, I think, I think it's got it. That's such an interesting question because it's making me think in a chicken egg way, like is my ethics and my politics, like in here, like I don't know, the weirdest thing just came to mind and I'm going to follow that impulse.4 (48m 58s):Great.6 (48m 59s):Do it. And forgive me if I get a little bit emotional right now, it's it's my dad. If I'm really being honest, my dad is actually, he's not in the arts, but he's very artistic. He's a cellist. He's a musician. His odd actually, if you go to the Dem theater in Chicago, where Haven is the space that Haven exists in is the Bookspan theater specifically, the Janet Bookspan theater. Janet Bookspan is my aunt, his sister who was a major opera director, vocal coach, teacher, performer, actor assisted how prince back in the day, like holy4 (49m 40s):Shit.6 (49m 41s):Yeah. So like, and I have it on my mom's side as well, but my mom actually is an artist. She's a painter, but my dad, my dad is a radiation oncologist. He's a cancer physician, but music and art has always been a very big part of his life. His family, my life, he actually sidebar. Cause this is just a fun thing. And I hope this gets included. Cause I love bragging about this. My dad talk about politics and, and art colliding and art ed creative ethics. My dad has always been a big fan of Dr. Seuss's the snitches, this exists. You can go online. It's amazing. I'm so inspired by this. He was part of the Rochester academy of medicine and they have this amazing old building that has a roof.6 (50m 23s):That was basically, it's like a mansion that was donated and it's got this that was built for chamber music. And he developed relationships with the Rochester Philharmonic re developed friendships with musicians and created basically a chamber trio to play at the Rochester academy of medicine. And through this met a composer as Spanish composer, living in Berlin, named the Lorenzo. Palomo, who's pretty bright. His music is pretty outstanding and ended up commissioning a piece of music for this trio. And one thing led to another. And we found out that since my dad was young, he had believed that Dr.6 (51m 6s):Seuss is the snitches one. It was one of the most impactful, universal and effective lessons about acceptance and like anti-racism that you could find. And it was always his dream to have a piece of music, Allah, Peter, and the Wolf that was composed to be performed in tandem with a narration of Dr. Seuss's the snitches. So you can license this now on music theater international, because he did it. He commissioned Lorenzo to compose a piece of music for Dr. Seuss's the snitches. And we also by hooker by crooked premiered at my Alma mater at Oberlin and has since played around the country actually.6 (51m 52s):And I believe internationally. And, and it was all because he wanted to spread the message. It was because he wanted to use art to create an anti-racist piece of art. And the other cool thing is through a connection with his niece who ran the department of cultural affairs in Miami Dade county. She had a connection to John Delancey, who you might know as Q from star Trek, the next generation who did the original narration, the premiere. And so actually it's all on YouTube. You can hear John Delancey doing the speeches. And so like that's an aspect of my dad right there.6 (52m 33s):Another aspect was that I'll never forget this story. He actually built, he in Clifton Springs, New York built the cancer center, finger lakes, radiation oncology, because there, you know, there was a large elderly in particular community out there if I recall. And so, you know, as people are getting later in life, you know, biology happens and access to cancer treatment was non-existent except like 45 minutes or more at least minimum drive out of the way, if not hours out of the way. And especially as you're getting older, that becomes less and less sustainable for radiation treatments, for chemo treatments for all of these things.6 (53m 15s):So he found funding and worked his ass off as I, in some of my youngest days and built this cancer center from the ground up. And there was a day that I remember very distinctly hearing this story where as we've all been in any doctor's office, they were just running like, you know, three, four hours behind and sorry, I get emotional tug this story. It's so funny because it's like, that's, that's my true north in a way. You know, he, he sent his technicians out. This was back in the day when like Rent-A-Center was still a thing and blockbuster and shit, and like went out to get like sent them out to get like a television, sent them out to get a bunch of movies, sent them out to get like a sandwich platter and just showed up and basically were like, Hey, we're sorry.6 (54m 11s):We're we know we're running behind. We just want you to know, we haven't forgotten that you're here. You know? And like when does that happen at a doctor's office? Like when has that ever actually happened? Right. That's my,2 (54m 27s):Not for nothing, but my dad sold x-ray equipment. I've met a lot of radiation oncologists, and it's very unusual. Like there tends to be kind of a personality type with people who go into radar and it, it's not that what you're describing. So your dad must be a really remarkable person,6 (54m 45s):But yeah, no. And so I think it was a values thing. If we really want to talk about it, it's a values thing. It's, it's, it's a sense of how can we make this better? Like how can we be people first? How can we like again, we talk about Haven, right? One of the things I used to say, and I, and I would try, I tried to work hard to embody was like, oh, sorry, this does plug into our original conversations to bring it back perfectly on topic. One of my first shows I did in Chicago, I did a production of a play called xylophone west by Alex who's becoming a leg. Yeah. Alex is great. He's he's rising really well.6 (55m 26s):And like, we, he was actually, when I was the associate director of the summer Oneal program, he was a playwriting student when I was associate director. And that was our first. So it's cool. Just like, as we've sort of grown together, it's been amazing. And we did a reading of it and I, we have very strong opinions, especially because of the O'Neil being sort of a hub of new play development about what new play development is. There's a lot of bad, new play development. There's a lot of bad talk-backs, there's, there's a lot. And really it comes down to the difference between responsive feedback versus prescriptive feedback and how to cultivate that and understanding the difference.6 (56m 6s):And these, this artistic director did not understand this. And well, similar to what we're talking about, we were like, Hey, can we structure the talk back this way? Can we, this would really help Alex, Alex would say, this would really help me, like understand my play better. And artistic director's response was, I'll never forget this. Just remember who's the employer and who's the employee.4 (56m 34s):Right, right,6 (56m 35s):Right,4 (56m 35s):Right.6 (56m 36s):Case in point to everything we're talking about. And so like, I, it's sort of, when I think about like the sort of challenge to, sorry, I completely lost my train of thought.4 (56m 49s):No, no. What we're talking about is no, no, it's fine. It's when we're talking about a lot of things.6 (56m 53s):So4 (56m 54s):That's okay. What we're talking about is like this whole idea of like that your mentor wasn't your mentor anymore and why people don't want to change and the message versus what is actually happening in.6 (57m 6s):Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to remember why I specifically brought up xylophone west, but it was like this idea of, I don't know. I think about this, this, I owe my, my dad my values. Yeah. Value system. That's right. Thank you. I just needed to hear about, yeah. Yeah. It's a value system thing. It's like, that tells me what that person's value system is. Right. That tells me sort of the culture that they built. And for me as at Haven, sort of taking a note from my dad, right? Hey guys, that you're here. We see that you're here. The way I would phrase that as an artistic director was like, yes, you are our employees. Let's be like, it's not that, that isn't real. Like we are, you were signing a contract to work for us.6 (57m 49s):We have expectations based on their contract. You are also a guest in our home. And that is our responsibility. Like as leadership as a company, as an institution, as a director, like you are, you are a guest in our home. This is our home. We are responsible. Especially if we want to talk about mentorship in academia, some of us are paying $50,000 a year,4 (58m 14s):Right.6 (58m 15s):Be in your home. Like you have all of the control of this space. You can, you can make this, whatever you want it to be, and we're paying you to exist inside of it. And, and it becomes a question for me of how do you take that responsibility? Like what if, whether it's an academic responsibility of like, we are literally paying for the privilege of this, or in a professional standpoint where it's like, it's, it's a little bit in the reverse either way. It's like you are in the position of power. You are in the position where you can like build culture that I use, that I find that word comes up a lot. When I rant about this, which I rant about4 (58m 53s):Culture, building culture,6 (58m 54s):Building culture, whether it's academic, whether it's professional, like that's the responsibility. And if you don't take that as the responsibility it's so,4 (59m 3s):Okay. The, the, the other thing that I was going to say is you had a moment where, so I have these moments where I say to myself, usually not out loud, but you kind of almost said it out loud, but you didn't either. Which is I say, my mama did not come to this country as an and work her ass off for this shit. And your moment was, my dad did not build a fucking radiology oncology center and then get Rent-A-Center furniture and sandwiches for me to be doing this shit like that is that moment. Well, I think, well, that's what I heard there. Everyone has a line and a true north of like, wait, wait, my legacy is not going to be, this is not going to be not saying anything to you.6 (59m 47s):And legacy is, is something I think about sometimes, but it's like, it's not even about that per se. It's like, I see what it means to people. Right? And like, if, if we believe in our own bullshit, like, especially as artists, you know, because artists are, are at the forefront of talking a lot of shit about like empathy, right. About community, about humanity, about seeing each other about uplifting each other about making the world a better place. And it's like, well, that's all well and good. But like, are you like how? And it's not even just like, again, like there's so many ways to do it, but I think sometimes we take for granted the small ways of doing it.6 (1h 0m 29s):I think sometimes we take for granted the like, what if we just buy everyone dinner? What if we like make a concerted effort to pay people a little bit better? Like, what if we, what if we show our work in that? Like, what if we actually believe in the transparency that we add? Like so much, like we talk about transparency so much in our industry, like, or rather not in our industry, I should say like artists talk about transparency in the world, right? Like we want corporate transparency. We want more governmental transparency. What are some of the least transparent motherfuckers?2 (1h 1m 4s):Yeah. I feel like I know why that happens in theater too. It's because there's no money. So everybody goes into it with all of their, like very theoretical and ideological approaches. And when you get very cerebral, very theoretical, you forget about things like, oh yeah, people don't want to do 10 out of twelves anymore because it's, it's, it's too fatiguing. And it actually works against the thing that they're there to do, which is create a new each performance, like being able to offer something fresh each time. So it, it, that is actually an area in which it's helpful to think about theater as a business.2 (1h 1m 47s):Because if this, if you were running a seven 11 and you had an employee, you'd have to have a bathroom, like it's, you know, you just think about the pragmatic things more when you're thinking about it as a business.6 (1h 1m 57s):Right. And, and it's like, I, and for me, it's like a lot of these things are considered mutually exclusive for some, or they're treated as mutually exclusive, but like, you have to, it's like the business and the sort of like cultural, ethical side, somehow don't mix. And I just don't agree. I don't agree for a lot of reasons. I don't agree in part through the Haven experiment. You know, I it's like, look, we, we're still not making money. And we, we, I want to say we were very privileged to have particular financial support. I don't want to take that for granted that we were not starting in the same place as a lot of other people. And I, and I don't take that for granted. It's not a brag. It's like a, like the bootstrap Smith. Like I want to make sure that it's not like, you know, taken for granted, but it's also like, there's still this idea that people won't show up sometimes like that, like literally I've had other artistic directors talk to me about Haven work in Chicago being like, what are you sure there's an audience here.6 (1h 2m 53s):I'm like motherfuckers. We just sent like 15 people away at the door for Isaac Gomez, horror play. But no one else would produce like, like why, what are we it, and those decisions are made because of business, right? Because, because how are we going to sell it to Chris Jones? Because like, how are we going to, and I, I, we found time and time again, that there is an audience for this work that we were able to at times even make money on, like compared to what we, what our show to show budget work. We were able to make money back, like, and we were paying people, you know, it still stipends, you know, not what they're worth. I don't want to pretend we were ever able to pay people what they worth.6 (1h 3m 35s):But we were able to pay people, usually double the typical storefront stipend it's like, and, and still keep ourselves on a typical like budget that I was used to for other storefronts. So it's like, it's this question of like, why are these things treated as mutually exclusive on a bigger scale? Look at center theater group right now, an article just got written. I got to see slave play out here, which amazing production also Chicago, shout out. I got to see cause he's under studying. And I got to see him perform that night. Rashad hall. Brilliant, brilliant. And his2 (1h 4m 11s):Shot6 (1h 4m 11s):Is brilliant. Oh my God, his Phillip just broke my goddamn heart. Oh my God. He was so good. That's a show that is deeply controversial, deeply challenging queer by PAC sexual BDSM oriented, racist, racist, racist, or in terms of its its topic matter like racism in the United States. And historically, and today it's it's and they gave away like 5,000 or more like free and discounted tickets. And they still made money.2 (1h 4m 48s):Jeremy DOE he recently just put something up on social about this that he made. He made accessibility like the most important feature of his, you know, this play being produced and it worked and it worked better still made money on this scarcity model, which is, I mean, that's a lot of this just comes from the scarcity model, influencing how everybody feels. So constantly afraid of losing the one little sliver of the pie that they have that, you know, all they can think about is how to make that tiny little sliver. How to divvy it up instead of saying no, how can we get more pie people? We want more pie. We want to just keep getting our tiny little slivers we want, we, we want to add.2 (1h 5m 28s):So I'm mindful of the time because I know we're about 50 and we're going to be having to wrap up and I want to hear about it's your last semester and you're working on a project and you're going to have spring break next week. What is your, is it a thesis? Is that, is that,6 (1h 5m 43s):That, that was actually last semester. That last semester. Yeah. That's so that's done. I've I've kept myself a little bit busy. I don't know. I, I found myself strangely in spite of the pandemic lab, maybe because of the pandemic last year and now being back in in person and, and all of that. I just, and also I think because of like big was amazing and like my designers were incredible. The students here are unbelievable, but it was also because of some of the things I shared, like an exhausting process, excuse me. And so I sort of took a break and then got into the semester and for some reason just was like, I want to make shit. I want to be involved in making shit.6 (1h 6m 24s):I want to, I want to be involved in my own shit. I want to get involved in other people's shit. I just want to make shit. And so I'm like, I just finished up working on a collaboration with a doctoral student in the music school where we created a, I worked with a lighting designer and we worked collaboratively to create a light based sort of design journey, like a sort of light experience in conversation with the music called busking style in real time, as part of his doctoral thesis.2 (1h 6m 60s):Wait, you're saying it was busking like that the project was6 (1h 7m 4s):The, the style of, of calling the lighting. Was it wasn't like, it was sort of like, Yeah, it was a, yeah. So it was board op up in the booth watching and listening for particular moments. And the music was also highly improv. The reason is because the composition had moments of high improvisation. So there were moments where it was literally like just listening for certain things to shift the lighting responsibly to the music as it was happening. And it was just something I had never done before. So I'm like, let's try this out. And then I'm, I'm drama turking and assistant directing a play that an acting MFA student who's a dear, dear friend has written in his performing it.6 (1h 7m 48s):So I can be sort of the outside eye while she's on the inside of it. And then I might have another project cooking for right before graduation. I'm I'm figuring that out right now. And then I've also got things outside. I'm thrilled to say my partner is actually going to be going to USC for film school next year. So she and I are actually working collaboratively on a couple of things with another acting alum from, from Cal arts, actually a which I'll be able to share a little bit more, actually there's some stuff online with little like BTS stuff it's called goon and I'm actually really pumped about it. Yeah. I'm really, it's, it's, it's super fun, super quirky.6 (1h 8m 30s):We found a great cinematographer. Right. We shed who's just has an inspired eye. And so, yeah, just, I don't know, just finding myself in that moment of like, I think also out of frustration, maybe with Cal arts at times, like I just want to get with the students here and make some shifts. Let's just make some,2 (1h 8m 47s):I think your thing is you want to helm your own ship, always. You want to kind of be in charge of your own destiny and which is a very good, I mean, I see you're making a face about it, but I just, from my prime saying that's a very good quality to have. And it actually leads me to another question I was going to ask you, which is, are you, age-wise about there with your peers in this MFA6 (1h 9m 9s):And that's been interesting. Yeah. Older, older. Yeah. I'm in my mid thirties. And that has been a, an interesting difference of experience at times. Yeah.2 (1h 9m 19s):Yeah. Well, we've talked to a lot of MFA's who, because they were in their thirties, we're able to see the whole thing about school in a m

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As you know, I love a good comeback story as well as people who have conjured up a unique, daunting challenge to tackle.  In this episode I chat with an old coaching friend, Karen Smidt, who is the long-time head cross country and track coach at Brighton High School, in a growing suburban, formerly rural, community northeast of Denver.  Karen is a Navy veteran, and has been the head librarian at the school for many years.  She is very welcoming as a coach and her teams routinely attract large numbers of kids to come out, and more importantly stay out, and her Bulldogs regularly finish at the top in their league championships.  Karen has always enjoyed running herself, especially on trails, but she hit a major bump in the road several years back when she required neck surgery, and then that procedure led to what are likely nerve issues that have left her with almost no feeling in her hands and feet.  That's obviously not very ideal for a runner, much less a trail runner.  So she did what any self-respecting WASP guest would do, she created a challenge, and hers is to run fifty 50-mile races, one in each state, while she is in her 50s.  And she didn't get started until arriving in her mid-50s, plus several states don't have 50-mile races, so that's added to her quest to complete this challenge before she hits 60 years old.  As Karen's husband Dan said to her after we recorded this, the only thing she likes more than running is to talk about running, so hopefully you'll also enjoy our lively chat about her inspiring quest.Please consider donating to help Boulder County fire victims relief:https://www.commfound.org/grants/get-grant/Boulder-County-Wildfire-FundCoach Karen SmidtFacebook Karen Stanley SmidtInstagram @karensmidtBill Stahlsilly_billy@msn.comFacebook Bill StahlInstagram @stahlor

The secrets of transforming your identity into an actual obsession. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Series Podcast. Today, we're going to be going even a little bit deeper, talking about identity. All right, I know I talked about this stuff a lot, but it's in my head on my mind a lot. I think sometimes we talk about a topic and then we're like, oh yeah, I know what that is. So the topic we're talking about is identity shifting again. And I've talked about it in so many different ways. Like we talked at it from a marketing standpoint, like with your audience, you've got to create an identity shift if you truly want them to move and follow. In goal setting, we talked about you have to have an identity shift if you want to actually move and change. But I had a weird realization over the last probably 48 hours or so. So those who don't know, my life right now, and we're in the middle of wrestling season. I help coach the kids high school team. So every day at 2:30, I leave the office, race over to the school, and I coach. And it's kind of weird, because I'm not the head coach. I'm there just kind of wrestle my kids, and help people, and whatever. But it brings back all the memories of when you were doing it, right? When you were wrestling, and when you were competing. And for me, it was like, man, wrestling was my life. Like it was the only thing that mattered. There was nothing else. There wasn't like a number two or number three. It was like wrestling and then nothing else. And it's interesting because I watched the kids now, we've got some really good wrestlers on our team, but I think it was two days ago, maybe three days ago, I had this realization. I said there's a difference between people who are wrestling and someone who is a wrestler. And I was looking, because most of the people on the team are here and they're wrestling. They come to practice every day, they wrestle. Then they go to the matches, they go to the tournaments. They do stuff and they wrestle. They're wrestling. But there's a difference between just wrestling and then those who are wrestlers. Right? And it was interesting, because last night my high school I grew up in, it's Hillcrest High School in Sandy, Utah. Every year there's this rivalry against Brighton High School. We hate Brighton. And Brighton's the big... It's Hillcrest versus Brighton. And I think it was like 40 or 50 years ago, they started this thing called the Battle of the Ax. And so they had this huge Ax. And each year, whoever wins the dome gets to keep the Ax. And so when I was a senior in high school, we had lost the ax like 13 or 14 years in a row. And our senior year, we were a really, really good team. And my senior year we actually won the Battle of the Ax. And what's crazy cool is last night, Hillcrest won the Battle of the Ax again, for the first time in 24 years. First time since I was a senior in high school. And so I saw that on Facebook, someone posted it. So I got all excited. And so I started going back through all my old video files. And I found videos of me wrestling in the Battle of the Ax. And then us winning the ax, and us going crazy, and videos of the ax and like all these things. And so it's kind of fun, I went and took some little screenshots and some clips of me wrestling. And I posted it on Facebook and tagged all my old wrestling buddies and coaches. And anyway, the last 12 hours have been a lot nostalgia for me, just seeing my coaches comment, my friends and my teammates. And ah, just thinking about it. But I started thinking this morning again, as I was looking at that, this is the identity shift, right? There's a lot of people who do wrestling. There's a lot of people who, again, they go through the motions, they do the thing. But there's a difference. When I was competing, I was a wrestler. And what does that mean? Like what does it look like? Because from the outside, it probably looks similar. But the difference was, when I would wake up in the morning, all I was thinking about was how to become a better wrestler. I was at school, in classes, that's all I was thinking about. When wrestling practice started, I was there. I showed up early. As soon as I got in the room, we started wrestling, started rolling around. As soon as practice ended, my dad would show up and I would do a second practice every single day. And then on the weekends, like when we traveled, we brought wrestling mats. We literally have wrestling mats that we'd hook to the top of my dad's truck. When we'd drive on family vacations, we'd get the wrestling mats out and we'd wrestle in the morning before we would go do our, go on the lake or whatever. I wasn't someone who was wrestling, I was a wrestler. It was different, right? It's an identity shift. Like it was my life. There was nothing else. It is who I was. And I look at the kids who are the most successful, if not the ones who wrestle, that it's the ones who are wrestlers, where it is who they are. It's who they become. And I keep trying to think, how do I instill that in kids? In wrestling, how do I get you to go from being like, oh yeah, I'm wrestling. I go to wrestling practice. Like, no, no, no. You don't understand. If you really want to be the best, if you want to be a State Champ, or a National Champ, or an All American, or whatever, the thing is, you have to... It's more than this. It's not just doing the motions that everybody's doing. It's like, you have to have this identity shift where you become a wrestler, where that's all you do. That's your full-time am job, income, livelihood, thought process. Like everything is wrapped into that thing. So why do I share this with you guys? I share it with you guys because as I've been now, 20 something years, teaching entrepreneurship, and online marketing, and doing this thing, I see that same division. There are people who start businesses. There are who try to make money. There's people who, whatever, right? But the people are successful, the ones who actually had the identity shift, where they have become an entrepreneur, they become a publisher, they become an author. They become something different. And you can tell that shift because it goes from like, "Okay, I got to work on my business today for an hour." Or, "I got to block out three hours," to "This is my obsession." I was talking about it with... Recently, I let go some people who had been in our company a long time. And I remember for me, it was like... It's tough because I'm like, man, if I got fired from this, from what I do, it's my life. There's not like I go to work and then go home at night. It's like, this is my life. And this is my life and I'm thinking about it all the time, like when I'm the shower I'm thinking about it. At my home, my family... Maybe that's wrong. I don't know, it's an obsession, but if you look at my identity, what am I like? I am an entrepreneur. I am a curator. I am a... Like, I could give you different identities that I resonate with. But it's deep. It's not a dabble. In fact, I remember, this is a couple years ago, somebody asked for my email address. I gave it to them. They're like, "That's your work email. What's your real email?" And I was like, "What are you talking about?" And they're like, "Well, don't you have a personal email and a work email?" I'm like, "There's no division." I don't have a personal life and work life. This is my life. You know what I mean? And I was confused, because I remember someone on my team, assuming now I think I've learned since then that almost everyone has a work email and a personal email. But for me, again, there's not a line between those two things. This is my mission. When I was wrestling, I was a wrestler. My mission was singular focused. There was one thing. Since I've gotten out of wrestling and I've become who I am now at today, there's no work Russell and home Russel. There's Russell, and this is who I am. This is my personality. This is my identity. That's how deep your identity shift has to become. And not that you can't have success without it. People have success, they make money, blah, blah, like those things. But if you really want to, in my mind, to change the world, to do something amazing, it's deeper. It's this thing where it becomes you. That's what an identity shift is. It's not saying, "Oh yeah, I wrestle." No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm a wrestler. Like you cut me, I bleed that color. I remember Stephen Larson one time, in fact, we made a whole t-shirt, a theme, out of funnel hacking live when you're calling people diehard funnel hackers. And his joke was, if you cut me open and you see my heart beating inside, you'll notice there's a blue gear and a red gear. That's how deep I am in this community. And so we made these t-shirts that said Diehard Funnel Hacker, and it had a beating heart, click funnel's heart. But again, that's the kind of identity shift you have to have. And I don't know exactly how to do that, or how to have it, other than it's got to become an obsession. I think in our society, in our world, people talk down about obsessions sometimes. Because there's definitely a negative stigma sometimes. And it's tough. As a producer who likes to produce, I struggle with people I love around me, including my wife and other family members, other people who are just like, "You got to turn it off. You got to stop." And I'm like, I don't understand what this means, turning it off. It's not like I'm going to work and I'm leaving work. It's who I am. It's my identity. There's no on off switch. It's just, it is.And that's the level of identity shift you've got to have you really want to change the world. I remember, I think I shared this on the last episode of the podcast. But I remember there was a wrestling film I used to watch all the time, with Tom and Terry Brands. And it started with, "My name's Tom Brands. My goal's simple, I want to be the greatest wrestler in the whole world." And then the second guy is, "My name's Terry Brands. My goal is simple. I want to be the greatest wrestler in the whole world." That was not somebody who was going to work and then going home at night. That was someone who, they were trying to change the world. They were trying to be the best. And I feel like, man, if you really want to do something great, you got to do that. And it's tough for most people. Because most people don't have that. It's interesting, I had my time when I got to be an athlete, which for me was from... I didn't start wrestling until eighth grade. So from eighth grade till college. So there's what, four years high school, 8, 9, 10. So I had a decade. Wow, I had a decade. I had a decade where my sole focus was being an athlete, and everything was there and focused. And I look at most people, it's interesting, because now that I'm coaching high school wrestling, most people, their only chance to be athletes is two or three years. If they start as a sophomore, maybe freshman, they make it four years. That's the window of the life they're an athlete. And if they're not great or whatever, like again, if they haven't had that identity shift, they do the thing, but they're not... Like they miss that. I think for me, I was lucky where I had a decade of my life where I was singular focused. I had a chance to have that. And so for me to go deep on something, to be obsessed with something, I had done it before. That pattern was in my brain. It was easy for me to, as I switched to business, to become like, okay, I'm going to tackle this with the same like fervent energy that I did with wrestling. And so I was able to go deep on it, where a lot of people have never had that chance in their life. They've never gone deep. They never sacrificed everything they had for something that they wanted to get. And if you haven't in life, it's going to be kind of hard. It's going to be hard to even understand. You've seen somebody who's crazy like me, and you've seen somebody. You get people around you, but you never experienced that. And it's like, how do you trick your mind? How do you train your mind? How do you go deep on it? And I don't know the exact answer, other than I think we got to stop thinking about it from a, go to work and back, and more of like, this is who I am, this is who I've become, this is who I serve. This is all the things related to that. So anyway, I'm sure some of you guys think I'm crazy, and you're rolling your eyes. And you're like, Russel, I didn't get in here to try to change the world, just trying to make some extra money. And I get that. But you will find out very quickly that the money is short lived. And the thing that, at least for me, and I don't think I'm unique in this. I've talked to a lot of successful people at the highest levels. I've talked to the Tony Robbins of the world, people like that. And it's the same thing, I don't do this for money. I have plenty of money. I do this because this is who I am. Like Tony Robbins is Tony Robbins. He's not like, I go to work and I motivate people. No, no, no, no, no. You don't understand. Tony is... I don't know how to explain it other than he is Tony. This is his mission, his life. And he'll be on his deathbed, running a UPW, like streaming it in. Like, I don't want to stop. Like, I'm going to go til the heart stops beating. Just keep going and keep going. And I think that's me. It definitely is me. Unless I find something different to shift my identity to, but as right now, I love this. I love who I serve. I'm obsessed with it. The art is so rewarding and fulfilling to me, where, again, like Russell you got to turn it off. Like why would you want to turn it off? I can't understand that. It does not compute in my brain. And that's the level of obsession I think you really got to have, if you want to be successful in anything at the highest levels. So anyway, again, just thoughts in Russell's head that I want to share with you guys. Yeah, so I hope that helps. I hope you guys... And for those of you guys who are like me, and hopefully it gives you permission to be like, it's okay. It's okay that I'm obsessed. I got to be careful, because there's a line of obsession where you can lose everything. You can lose your family, you can lose your friends. And I don't believe in that. I believe in trying to incorporate the people you love most into your mission. Like my dad was at wrestling practice every day with me. My mom came to my tournaments. I was able to incorporate the people I loved in the mission that I was on at the time. And I feel like the same thing's true here. I had the chance to bring my kids to Funnel Acting Live. We created a whole family event, unlocked the secrets for our families, because I wanted to bring my kids to an event. So it's like, you don't have to do it and lose everything, unless you isolate from the people you love. It's like, how do you incorporate and bring those people on the trip and the ride with you? So anyway, I hope that helps somebody. I appreciate you guys for listening. It means the world to me. We're working on a new Funnel Hub inside of ClickFunnels 2.0, the very first one is marketingsecrets.com. So it's not quite live yet. By the time you guys hear this, it might be live. Hopefully in the next day or two, we'll have it up there. But it is the first ever Funnel Hub built on ClickFunnels 2.0, which is exciting. Actually, it's not true. We launched magneticmarketing.com on ClickFunnels, 2.0. So that was the first one. And it is live so you can go see it. You can test page speeds. The page speeds are insane on it, which is really cool. Even though we haven't actually turned on all the cashing and optimization stuff yet, it's still way faster than every other page builder. So it's exciting. Good things are happening. And do you want to know why? It's because we're obsessed. All right, thanks, guys, for listening. Appreciate you. And we'll talk soon.

This week, Kevin and Les meet with Gavin Johnson, the principal of Brighton High School. Throughout the show, they discuss leadership, connections, and the culture present within the Brighton Public school system. One intentional conversation that they talk about is the concept of taking the blame and giving praise. Show Links For more information about UTEC follow the links below. Website: www.utecit.com Facebook: @universityofficetech Linkedin: UTEC Twitter: @UTECIT

Dani Drews, a senior outside hitter from Brighton High School, is from a family full of accomplished Utes athletes. Her parents were two-sport standouts and two of her bothers played football for the Utes. But Dani might be the best of all of them. Drews is the first two-time First Team All-American in Utah volleyball history, the reigning Pac-12 Conference Player of the Year, and Utah's all-time leader in kills. She joins host Mike Lageschulte to talk about the highlights from her college career and her future plans.

Local youth climate leaders are gearing up for the Green Games. It's an initiative where they'll challenge their peers across the Rochester/Finger Lakes region to take action when it comes to combating climate change. They join us to talk about Meatless Mondays, fossil fuel divestment, an art challenge and more. Our guests: Bridget Mousaw, junior at Brighton High School, leader of the Brighton High School Climate Club, and Rochester field organizer for the New York Youth Climate Leaders Poppy Burack, 8th grader at School of the Arts, who is trying to bring back SOTA's Climate Club Lola DeAscentiis, senior at Mercy High School, member of the New York Youth Climate Leaders, and participant in the ROC City Compost Pilot program Harrison Jurenko, senior at School of the Arts, and member of the Seneca Park Zoo Urban Ecologist program

When Peyton Manning went into the Pro Football Hall of Fame earlier this month, he issued a call for the revitalization of youth football. Manning warned that the game is losing players at every level, and he said that the safety improvements should be enough to convince parents to send their kids out on the field again. Is he right? We discuss the state of football, and we address Manning's plea for more kids of all ages to be playing the game. Our guests: Katie Rizzone, M.D. , primary care sports medicine physician at UR Medicine Stephen Lian , head football coach at Brighton High School

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Aarika Capra is a science Teacher and Career and Technical Educator at Brighton High School, northeast of Denver.  Aarika currently teaches Introduction to Biomedical Science, Biology, and Honors Anatomy and Physiology. Aarika earned her Bachelors in Biology from University of Wisconsin Eau Claire and her Masters in Curriculum and Instruction from the University of Colorado Denver.  Aarika, who grew up in Wisconsin, is a National Board Certified Teacher.  Relationships and relevant material are key in Aarika's classroom.  She want students to be engaged in problem noticing and problem-solving so that they are motivated and interested in the course work. Intro and Outro music "Vicious Pen" courtesy of Moby Gratis:

Welcome to the TEaCH Fest Podcast, episode 5. In this episode, I am joined by Sean Metz – Science Coordinator, EdTech Integrator Extraordinaire, and Tech Mentor at Brighton High School. Sean has some great ideas to share about how he keeps his high school students engaged by incorporating gamified learning into the learning environment.  If you would like to learn more about how to use Kahoot.com to engage your students with this fast-paced and competitive EdTech tool, let Sean or me know and we can arrange a coaching session!

Welcome to the TEaCH Fest podcast, where we explore student-centered learning pedagogy and EdTech and in the classroom. In this inaugural episode, we hear from several students in Dr. Rachel Lauber's Orchestra Program at Brighton High School as they discuss the challenges they have overcome and the lessons they have learned while participating in the performing arts during the COVID pandemic. Listening to these young musicians, I am inspired by their resilience, creativity, and sense of community. Their comments are excerpts from a longer interview that was part of a day-long content drop at the end of the first semester. This special event was a culmination of a semester's work exploring a variety of elements associated with the work of musicians. Student work products include an impressive collection of solo and collaborative musical performances, visual art projects, student photography, and other creative pursuits. If you would like to hear the full interview and see other amazing content including the artwork and virtual performances by these students, check out their project page at bhsorchestras.mystrikingly.com

Simon is back with more requests as he breaks down Colorado defensive linemen Lukas Moran, and Joey Beckner. He also breaks down the film of linebacker James Thomas from Brighton High School. Last but not least he also talks about one out of state player from Georgia in Xzavier Green. Make sure to show us some love on social media! Lukas Moran 1:10- 9:08 Joey Beckner 9:13- 17:13 James Thomas 17:17- 26:56 Xzavier Green 27:00- 34:51 Social Media: Twitter: https://twitter.com/PlaymakerCorner Tik Tok: Playmakers Corner Instagram: https:https://www.instagram.com/playmakerscorner/?hl=en Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PlaymakerCorner Listen to us on: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4rkM8hKtf8eqDPy2xqOPqr Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cycle-365/id1484493484?uo=4 Breaker: https://www.breaker.audio/the-cycle-365 Google Podcasts: https://www.google.com/podcasts?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9hbmNob3IuZm0vcy9mODg4MWYwL3BvZGNhc3QvcnNz

We listen to 2015 Oscar winning Film Editor (“Whiplash”) and fellow Brighton High School grad, Episode 111: Tom Cross. Tom's other films include “La La Land,” “First Man” and “Hostiles”. He also had an award winning run on the tv series “Deadwood.” It's a fascinating/inspirational story about how to build on your loves and ambitions in the face of uncertainty. This is a must for those in the entertainment world. By the way, his next film is No Time To Die...The eagerly awaited BOND 25!

We hear the stories of young people who have come to Rochester as immigrants or refugees. A new book called "Green Card Youth Voices: Immigration Stories from Upstate New York High Schools" chronicles their journeys through a series of essays written by the students themselves. They represent 15 countries and Puerto Rico. Some of their families fled violence, natural disasters, and economic insecurity. Others sought better health care, education, and job opportunities. While the students' paths to America were different, they share a common goal: to adjust to and find acceptance in their new homeland. In their essays, they share the challenges they've faced and the hope they have for their new lives. They will read their essays during an upcoming virtual event , but first, they join us on Connections. Our guests: Tea Rozman , executive director of Green Card Voices Esma Okutan , Brighton High School student originally from Turkey Kate Liavanava , Brighton High School student originally

Jim Carl is the president of the  Michigan High School Lacrosse Coaches Association, a member of the MHSAA lacrosse committee and the head coach of Brighton High School.  We sat down to put out the flames from the rumors that Michigan was going to eliminate the faceoff from boys lacrosse in 2021.  We covered him role on the committee, the other members of the committee and that the committee DOES NOT want a game without faceoffs, but is starting the conversation on how we can make sure we have a 2021 season if COVID is still a concern.  #lacrosse #MichiganJoin now: www.uslacrosse.orghttps://twitter.com/usl_michiganhttps://twitter.com/LaxLocyhttps://twitter.com/Chriskolon

The death of Daniel Prude following his suffocation while in the custody of Rochester police last March has made headlines across the country. A 1998 graduate of Brighton High School who is now living in Atlanta said the news hit her like a gut punch. Jen Willsea wrote an online letter titled, " How a white girl learned white supremacy in a liberal suburb of Rochester, New York. " "I wrote my letter as a love letter to white Rochesterians," Willsea said. "That was very purposeful because ending white supremacy is not black people's work to do, it's white people's work to do." Willsea believes the Urban-Suburban Interdistrict Transfer Program, which aims to deconcentrate poverty and expand opportunities for students, influenced her thinking about race. "The message I took in as a child was that as a white kid, I deserved to go to highly rated schools with more kids who looked like me," she wrote in her letter. "And conversely, that the city schools where most of the Black kids went were

Summer jobs are not what they used to be . Statistics show that far fewer teenagers are working summer jobs. There's a ripple effect on the economy and future employment prospects, and it's also a change in the culture. Our guests examine the impact of this change: Rainesford Stauffer , freelance writer, and author of the forthcoming book, "An Ordinary Age" Chloe Maloy, rising junior at World of Inquiry School, and lifeguard for the City of Rochester Ari Fybush, rising senior at Brighton High School Z Marvin, rising senior at Brighton High School and part-time employee at Dunkin' Donuts

Interviewed J-Black coach from Brighton High School. We talked on Sports & Politics & Marginalized Athletes. J-Black message is to Impower our youth for tomorrow. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/6seventeenpodcast/support

Brighton High School head football coach Justin Hemm joined the show to discuss continuing to prepare for the football season with so much uncertainty surrounding the season with COVID.

Segment 10 - Brighton High School head football coach Justin Hemm joined the show to discuss continuing to prepare for the football season with so much uncertainty surrounding the season with COVID. Segment 11 - University of Utah AD Mark Harlan, head coach Kyle Whittingham & DC Morgan Scalley press conference Segment 12 - Final thoughts on Morgan Scalley news

We asked and you answered: kids from across the state submitted their questions about the coronavirus. Dr. Nahid Bhadelia with Boston University’s Special Pathogens Unit and Brighton High School junior Phebean Ogunsanwo join host Arun Rath to go over the questions and their answers.

We asked and you answered: kids from across the state submitted their questions about the coronavirus. Dr. Nahid Bhadelia with Boston University’s Special Pathogens Unit and Brighton High School junior Phebean Ogunsanwo join host Arun Rath to go over the questions and their answers.

In the last two days, we've heard from local students, parents, teachers, and administrators about how they are coping with distance learning since schools closed nine weeks ago to contain the spread of the coronavirus. Today, in the third part of the WXXI News series, "Pandemic Academics: Education During the Coronavirus Crisis," we look at the effect that all this time away from the classroom could have on students' academic progress. Maya Seltzer-Clinton is watching a video recording of her ninth-grade biology teacher Christopher Law's lesson on how certain animals evolved to have darker fur or feathers to protect them from predators. "And he has, like, the worksheet on the screen and then he explains to us how to do it," said Maya, who attends Brighton High School. "That's been very helpful to me, and I wish all my teachers were doing that." She said it's easier for her to learn this way than to navigate new material by herself. "Some of the geometry stuff," she said, "it's just

Schools were abruptly closed in mid-March as the coronavirus crisis reached local communities. In the second part of a WXXI News series on the impacts of the pandemic on education, we look at how academic performance is being evaluated, with so many variables at play. If the sudden shift to remote learning was an adjustment for students, then it was jarring for educators. "It was like putting teachers on a very steep slide and just pushing them off," said Jennifer Pacatte, a social studies teacher at Brighton High School. She said the first few weeks were spent just making sure students had their basic needs met such as access to food and Wi-Fi. Then, teachers came up with common practices and expectations they are striving to meet. The first goal was to "do no harm." "Ultimately, we can't penalize students for not being able to access and learn if they don't have the equal capacity to do that," Pacatte explained. "But, we also were really kind of careful to acknowledge that we have

KSL Newsradio is HONORING THE CLASS OF 2020 with speeches from high school graduates. This speech... is from Jacob Simmons... the valedictorian for Brighton High School in Sandy.  Seniors will offer their graduation speeches on KSL Newsradio 4 times a day... through the end of May. More speeches are at KSL Newsradio.com KSL’S "HONORING THE CLASS OF 20-20" IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY CHIC-FIL-A-UTAH... PROUDLY SUPPORTING THE GRADUATING CLASS OF 2020. Our sister station KSL T-V is honoring graduates, too. Tonight at 10... Dan Rascon is talking to a pole vaulter -- who was banking on her senior season to get a scholarship. Well, without the spring competitions... she's now staring down walking-on in college. That's tonight at 10... on KSL 5 T-V. 

Wow, Jill Kesler is amazing! Jill is a powerful person who lights up this world and all those who come in contact with her.  Jill has overcome some very difficult challenges, divorce and then cancer.  You will be blown away from her perspective.  Jill is a very proud mother of 3 exceptional children Sarah, Noah, and Gavin- who are the light of her life.  Jill grew up in Cottonwood Heights attending Brighton High School. She attended the University of Utah where she received a Bachelor of Fine Arts in painting and drawing. She then went to Pepperdine where I got my Masters of Arts in Education. Jill is fortunate to be able to pursue her true passion as a business owner of a private art school called Create Bliss Art School.  Tune in and listen to her amazing life! #jillpower #connection #energy #love #light #life #gratitude #cancersurvivor #overcome #powerful #creator #believe #beliefcast #tsinspires 

AAC Championship preview with: Former Memphis Tigers player and defensive coordinator for Brighton High School, Chris Jordan joined the show to preview the Memphis side of the game. For the Cincinnati side: Jason Stamm- Bearcatreport.com

Nate Huckle makes his way down the Thruway to chat about such things as racing, Muddy Sneaker, Oil Creek, Twisted Branch, coaching, mentoring, pacing, volunteering and anything that might come up... Nate has been a great friend, coach (at both Brighton High School in Rochester and Canisius College in Buffalo), and mentor to many people in the running community and constantly finds opportunities to give back and provide a positive influence wherever he may find himself, so I’m really happy to have him on the podcast to share some of his stories. Special Guest: Nate Huckle.

Reflecting back on the darkest day of my life, and how necessary it was for me to become who I am today. On Today’s episode Russell talks about his darkest time and how that lead him to all the good things in his life. Here are some of the inspirational things you will here in this episode: Why losing in the state wrestling championship senior year of high school made it possible for Russell to become everything he is today. How he was able to pull himself up and work harder than ever before to try and become the best. And why we should try to look at our hard times as good learning experiences and how they could be just what we need to become everything we want to be. So listen here to find out why not being state champ senior year of high school led Russell to where he is now. ---Transcript--- Hey everybody, this is Russell Brunson. I want to welcome you to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I just want to share with you a story that happened back when I was wrestling in high school. Hey everyone, so I am, wrestling season is done with my kids, as you know. It’s fun because I’ve finally had a chance to get back to work. I bought three hours a day back into my work, and it’s been interesting as I’ve got back to work, I’ve been missing wrestling like crazy and I’ve been missing that extra time with my kids. I had about a whole week where I was just at work, the full day, catching up on stuff and it was nice. And then my kids and one of their close friends started saying, “Hey coach Brunson….” And “Hey dad, can we start wrestling again? We want to start practicing again.” And we kind of talked about it earlier in the season and I was like, “Hey you guys, if you really want to get good…” And I told them, it’s kind of funny I told them this, because at first my kids did not like wrestling. And I kept telling them, “As you as you guys like wrestling, I can make you really, really good. But you have to like it first, If you don’t like it, I’m never going to be able to make you good at it because you’re going to fight me and you’re not going to enjoy it. You’re going to have a bad attitude. But as soon as you like it, I can make you really good.” And about halfway through the season, I was out, I can’t remember, I was on a trip or something where I was gone, and Bowen, one of my twins called me, he was the one that hated wrestling the most. He called me one night and said, “Dad, guess what?” I’m like, “What?” and he’s like, “I like wrestling now.” And I’m like, “What? Dude, that means I can help you become a good wrestler now.” He’s like, “I know.” So it’s been fun. Anyway, so we started the practices this week with them, where basically, oh and I put in my two boys, the weight lifting coach that lifts weights with me, I have them lifting weights with him as well, after school. So I’m trying to get them some muscle on their little frames. And then after they get some lifting, I come and we do a practice for, it’s supposed to be an hour but so far they’re going like an hour and a half to two hours long. But they’ve been really, really fun. It’s just us three, it’s Bowen and Dallin, my two kids and then Tyler, who is one of their buddies, and me. So that’s four. Anyway we did a practice yesterday and did a practice today, it’s fun. And then this Saturday I’m actually having them all come over and watching Rocky part one together, because I think that’s essential. For you to be good at anything, you gotta watch Rocky part one because then it gets you pumped for training hard and beating the odds and all that fun stuff. So we’re watching Rocky this weekend, I’m so excited. But I’m telling you this because tonight after practice they were looking over my medals and things like that, and I was telling them about it. And I showed them, of all the awards I got in wrestling, the one I’m most proud of was, there’s this plaque on the wall, and it’s second place in the country All American. And basically when I was in high school I went to the high school national tournament, and I took second place in the country, which is kind of cool. And the way it works is you have to be a state champion to qualify for that tournament, and you have to be a senior. So all the senior state champions were able to come to this national tournament and they find out who’s the best in the country. And what’s interesting though, if you look at each state, so Utah, Idaho, whatever, each state, they use a different class. So in Utah there’s 1A, 2A, 3A, 4A, and 5A. So I was in 5A which is the toughest division. I was a state champ there, and then there’s the other divisions. So there might be 5 or 6 state champs in each weight class and each state, so there’s, probably potentially, 150-200 state champs in each weight class in the country every single year. So from that, you have to be a senior, and you have to be a state champ to qualify for this tournament. And I took second place at it. So I think there were like 60 state champs in weight class during that tournament and I ended up beating the two time California state champ, and a three time somewhere else state champ, and two timers, all these people I had to beat to get into the finals. And I ended up losing in the finals in a really close match. But anyway, I’m like, that’s my most proud one. Then they started looking at my other medals and they were like, well looks like, basically what happened, they’re asking questions about the medals and I showed them, I said, “This is my next favorite one, this is my junior year, I won the state tournament and I was a state champ.” And they’re like, “Oh cool.” And then I said, “But check this out, this is the one that was probably the most important to me.” And it was my senior year and it’s a third place medal. And they’re like, “Wait Dad, you didn’t win state champ, you weren’t a state champ your senior year?” and I said, “No, I was a state champ my junior year, and then my senior year I came in and I was ranked number one, I beat everybody all year round. And then in the state semifinals there was this kid that I demolished him early in the year, I think I beat him ten to one earlier in the year. I had him second or third match and we go out there in this match and I just, my head wasn’t all in, I don’t know what happened but I got thrown to my back twice. You get 5 points, taken down to your back you get 5 points twice, so he got 10 points from there, and I ended up losing by like 2. So I caught up, you know, but I ran out of time at the end. And he ended up winning which dropped me down to the consolation brackets, and I came back through and I ended up taking third place in state my senior year.” And for me it was probably the most devastating moment of my entire life, prior or since. The worst. The most pain, the most embarrassment, the most humiliation, because I had worked so hard for this thing that I was sure I was going to win and I lost it. And again, it was someone I’d beaten before and it didn’t seem fair, didn’t seem right, didn’t seem all these things and I was just mad at myself, I was mad at just everything. And I remember it was the darkest moment of my life. And it’s interesting though, because I told the kids, I said, “This is the thing, I lost that match, but because I lost that match, I knew that two months later was the national tournament and because I won State my junior year, I still qualified to go to the Senior nationals. So I signed up for senior nationals and I said, I have two months to go there, based on how I did this weekend, I’m not ready. I’m not going to win.” I said, “My goal was to be an All American, which means you are in the top 8 and I’m like, I’m going to go and I want to be an All American.” But what was different was because I had lost I remember in my head thinking, I have to prove to everybody that I’m not just someone who won state and got lucky and then lost it later. I had to prove that I was something special. So because of that, it put my mind into overdrive where I was like, I have to prove that I’m special. I have to prove it to myself and to everybody. So because of that I was like, I’m going to train harder than anybody else. So for the next two months, I have a two month window, I’m going to go crazy. So during that two months I lifted every single day. I would have wrestling practice at my school. Sometimes I’d go in the morning, sometimes I’d go after school. And then after that I found out who were the other state champions in Utah that were also going to this tournament. I called up a bunch of them and found out where they’re at and we started driving to each other’s high school. So I would drive to Taylorsville High School, I would drive to Brighton High School. I would drive to these different high schools and I would go for another two or three or four hours and wrestling with these other guys who are also going, training for that tournament. And on average, I was averaging about seven hours a day of training between lifting, running and wrestling. Every single day for that two month period of time. And I had, in my mind, I had something to prove to myself, I had something to prove to the world, but I killed myself every single day for those two months to prepare myself for the tournament. Now, when I got to the tournament, I saw the brackets. I’m like, there’s 68 state champs, most of them won two, some of them won three, three times they’d won the state tournament in their states, and because I hadn’t won it my senior year, I was the lowest seed. Nobody thought I was going to win, I think I had, of the 68 people, I was probably seeded 60 or something like that. I did not get a good seed. No one thought I was going to win. And looking back on it, if I would have won my state tournament my senior year, I probably wouldn’t have done as good at this tournament, because I wouldn’t have trained the way I trained. I wouldn’t have had the, I wouldn’t have had to work as hard as I did, had I won that match. So because I lost I put in all this extra effort and time and energy to prove that I was good enough. And I went there, one of the worst seeds in the tournament, and I ended up beating the number one seeded, a two time California state champ, which if you know anything about California, it’s one of the toughest states in the country typically. And I beat him. I beat a three time state champ from North Dakota, then I beat a two time state champ from the next place, and the next place, and I went through this tournament. And it’s interesting, I always heard athletes, I’ve heard people like in baseball and stuff say, “you know, when I’m in the zone, someone pitches a ball, even if it’s 105 miles an hour, it still looks like it’s coming slow at me.” And I remember that tournament feeling that way. I was like, when I stepped on the mat I felt like everything was happening in slow motion. My moves were just crisp. Like sloppy things I had done during the high school season, I didn’t do anymore because I had trained so hard over that two month period of time to not do those things. To have my hips in the right position and have all the things correct. And the matches, just everything seemed easier. And the people who you know, two months earlier would have destroyed me, I was just playing with them. And of all the matches, all the tournaments, everything I’ve done, that was my tournament. That was the best tournament I’d ever wrestled. Went all the way through, pinned my guy in the semi finals, qualified for the finals, and in the finals I ended up losing by two points, in a controversial match that I still think I won. But that’s a story for another day. But I took second place in the nation, became an All American, and because of that it opened up all these different doors. Because of that, my, prior to that I wasn’t recruited by any division one school. I was recruited by some junior colleges and NAI schools and D2 and D3 schools and I was like, “I don’t want to go, I want to go division one or I don’t even want to wrestle.” And after I qualified for the finals, all the coaches from all of the colleges were there, so I’m getting calls from basically everyone. The Boise State coach, the Arizona State Coach, the Iowa State Coach, the BYU coach, all these different coaches, they all wanted me to come wrestle for them, and I was like, oh my gosh this is a huge change from what it was earlier. In fact, it’s kind of funny because my parents wanted me to go to BYU, I always wanted to go to BYU, but prior to me going to this tournament I had actually applied to go to BYU, and BYU you have to have like a, you have to be really, really smart and I was not very good in school. So you know, I got my rejection letter back like, “Sorry, we looked at your resume, but you are dumb so you’re not allowed into this school.” They said it a little bit nicer than that, but not much. So I remember I was walking to the national finals and I saw the BYU assistant coach and he came over and he’s like, “Hey, I wanted to introduce myself to you.” He said, “We’d love to have you come and wrestle at BYU.” And I’m like, “I’m sorry, I applied and I got rejected.” And he kind of started laughing and he’s like, “Don’t worry, we’ll take care of that.” And a week later when I got home there was a new letter that showed up and said, “Hey, we re-evaluated your application and congratulations, you’ve been accepted to BYU.” It’s so funny. So I ended up going to BYU and I wrestled there and then I went on a mission for my church for two years, and then I came home and BYU had dropped their program while I was gone. So I transferred to Boise State, and at Boise State I met my beautiful wife, Collette. Here’s where I started my business, found my business partners, my friends, and everything good in my life happened because I ended up here in Boise. In the spot on earth that I needed to be to find the people that I needed to become who I’ve become today. And I was telling this story to the kids tonight I said, “You know what, had I not lost that match, the match that meant everything to me, the match that I thought for sure I was going to win, it put me, it literally gave me the worst day of my life. Had I not lost that match I wouldn’t have trained the way I had to train for the national tournament. I wouldn’t have been an All American, I wouldn’t have taken second place in the country, I wouldn’t have gotten a college scholarship, I wouldn’t have ended up at Boise State, I wouldn’t have met my wife, I wouldn’t have had you as kids, I wouldn’t have met my business partners, I wouldn’t have been in the situation with the fertile ground I needed to be in to get the ideas, everything I needed to become who I’ve become today. To be able to be in a spot where all the sudden marketing can be interesting to me, so much so that I become obsessed with it.I had to have different friend groups, different people, different experiences. All those things happened because I lost that match.  And I remember sitting there after I lost the match and thinking this was the end of my life. I’m depressed, I’m miserable, I just want to die, I want to disappear off the face of the earth. Everything I’d worked for my entire life just got ripped out of my hands. I was mad at myself, I was mad at God, I was mad at everything, and what I didn’t realize was had he have answered my prayers, and had I have won that match, everything good in my life would not be here today. And I just started thinking about that, I was like, man, it’s always hard in the moment to understand the lesson and the trial that God has given us. But then, fast forward twenty years, looking back it becomes so clear and you’re like, oh my gosh. That was the chain reaction that I needed to get me to be here today. And looking back now, I’m so grateful that I lost that match. So grateful that it forced me to become better, it forced me to do different things, it forced me to become who I am today. So for any of you guys who are listening to this, I wanted to share this because I remember hearing Tony Robbins say one time, he said, “You know, a lot of times when people are passing away and they’re on their death bed and they’re being interviewed and they’re asked about tough times in their life, most of them reflect back on the hardest moment, or the worst time, the worst situation to happen in their life, and they realize that because of that everything great happened. And I’m saying this because some of you guys right now are probably in that moment, you’re in the darkest hour and you’re just like, “Why am I here? Why am I even doing this? Why was that taken away from me? It doesn’t make any sense. Why was that piece? Why was that person? Why was that experience? Why was whatever it is you’re going through, why was that taken from me?” and justifiably so, you can be angry, but what you don’t understand, what I didn’t understand, is that that was such a key component, a key thing. Had I not shifted, had I not lost that match, had I not gone through that dark moment of my life, it wouldn’t have put me on the path that I needed to be on to be where I am today. So if you do believe in a God, and if you do believe in prayers, and you do believe in destiny, and you do believe in whatever you want to believe in, understand that a lot of times you’re going to lose some of these battles, but you’re going to win the war as long as you keep moving forward and you keep doing it. So I’m hoping this helps someone, someone who’s going through depression or going through loss, or going through something that doesn’t make sense and you’re angry and you’re upset, from someone now who’s able to look backwards in time and see that as a blessing. I just hope that gives you hope that whatever you’re going through now could be a blessing for you as well. When you’re in the middle of it, it’s hard to see. It’s so hard to see, I remember. I didn’t want….And I’m sure there’s going to be more times in life that happens. The big time my business crashed and went from 100 employees and had to fire 80 people over night and lost everything. Had that not have happened, Clickfunnels wouldn’t have happened. And in the future who knows what happens. Clickfunnels might crash, or something else might happen. Who knows what I’m supposed to learn from that? Where am I supposed to go? Who am I supposed to become? How am I supposed to serve? What’s the next thing? We don’t know the answers to those things, but we have to have faith that there is a process and a purpose in what we’re doing, otherwise it can get really dark and scary. But if you realize, man I don’t understand it, I don’t know why, but I trust that there’s a purpose, it can give you the hope you need to keep moving on. But the last thing I want to say is just, the other moral of the story is when I lost it wasn’t like I stopped. It was like, okay, I need to readjust my goals and then I need to double down. I think sometimes we get depressed or dark states and we just kind of walk away. It’s like, no, no, no. Listen to the whole story, the whole story was lost, went through a phase of depression and then said, this is the new goal, this is how I’m going to redeem myself, go. And then I went and I ran as fast as I could, until my fingers bled, until my feet were sore, everything I needed to do and gave it 100% because that’s what was required for me to become the person I needed to be to win that tournament, to become an All American. I couldn’t have done it two months earlier, I would have lost. But because I went through that, I was good enough. I became who I needed to be to get that part of the, that piece of the goal. To get that next achievement. When my old company crashed and everything fell to the wayside, probably my second darkest moment of my life, it was also the necessary things I had to learn, I had to go through, to be able to become who I was, to be able to handle the mantle of what Clickfunnels is. If anyone thinks Clickfunnels is easy to run and be part of, it is not. It is insane amounts of work. Had Russell from ten years ago, if he had been handed this mantle it would have crushed him. But because of these experiences and all the things that I had to figure out and learn and grow through, it’s what’s given me the ability to be able to handle this right now, at least as well as, I’m doing my best. Some of you guys may think, “Russell, you’re not doing that good of a job.” I’m doing the best I can, so back off. Anyway, so I hope that helps. I hope that helps somebody. I don’t know. I just felt inspired tonight to share that and I hope that helps one of you guys out there in the moment of darkness you may be in. So just keep moving forward, don’t give up. If I could go back twenty years to Russell on that night that I lost, I’d come to him and be like, “Hey man, I know right now this sucks and it’s painful and you just want to disappear, and I understand that. But in twenty years from now you’re going to look back at this moment as the turning point of your life. Because you lost tonight, everything good that happens to you will happen. Someday you will be so grateful that this experience happened.” And hopefully you guys can remember that. Alright, with that said, I’m going to go get my kids into bed, appreciate you all. Thanks for listening and I’ll talk to you guys all soon.

Mahe, a Cougar alum, returns to BYU after an NFL career with the Philadelphia Eagles. He played running back and served as a return specialist for the Eagles, amassing 1,600 return yards in his five seasons. Mahe led the NFL in punt return average in 2005 and played in Super Bowl XXXIX as a member of the 2004 NFC Championship team.“It is very humbling to have this opportunity,” Mahe said. “I'm excited to return to this unique and great university, and I'm grateful for the chance to contribute to the BYU football program coaching running backs.”Tongan born and a Brighton High School product, Mahe played running back and receiver for the Cougars in 1998 and in the 2001-02 seasons after a stint at Dixie College where he led the nation in receiving with 57 receptions, 1,387 yards, and 19 touchdowns. He was named a Junior College Gridwire Second Team All-American.Mahe was one of the best all-purpose players in Cougar history, totaling 166 receptions for eighth all-time, 2,163 receiving yards for 13th and is 11th in all-purpose yards with 3,417. His best season was as a junior in 2001 when he led the Mountain West Conference with 91 receptions, 1,211 yards, ​and nine touchdowns, earning all-conference honors.He has coached at various football camps across the country since 2007, including the Ty Detmer Camp. Mahe serves on the Polynesian Football Hall of Fame Board of Directors and has served on the Boys and Girls Club Board of Directors.Mahe, who has eight children, is married to former BYU volleyball freshman All-American Sunny Tonga. He graduated from BYU with a bachelor's in sociology.

On the Gameday Podcast we discuss the history of Coach Ray Garza who is currently the head baseball coach at Brighton High School, and is also the new head softball coach at Riverdale Ridge High School. We talk about coaching philosophies and how to properly execute them as a coach, and we talk about the relationship that parents and players should have with their head coach. We also get to talk about Coach Garza's new role at a new high school here in the state of Colorado.

The quickest way to get your team to help you win. On this episode Russell talks about how to get over the initial pain when you start something new and create desire. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for on today’s episode: Find out why starting a new business is similar to starting a new sport, because it doesn’t get fun until you have a win. Hear the fun story of Russell’s first win in wrestling, and how that is what made him decide that he was a wrestler. And find out why you need to start will small wins in order to work your way up to the big ones. So listen here to find out why you need to be able to have a win, in order to create desire, in whatever it is you are doing. ---Transcript--- What’s up everybody? This is Russell Brunson, welcome to the Marketing Secrets podcast. On today’s episode I’m going to talk to you guys about how to get yourself and others past the initial pain, so you can get to desire, fast. Okay so today I want to talk to you guys about something that I was actually having a conversation with John here in my office a few minutes ago, and it came up. He was talking about, and John is the guy on our team that runs all our traffic, he’s amazing, and he was a ballroom dancer growing up, in high school and then college, and right now his kids just started learning how to dance and we were talking about that a little bit. And he said, “It’s probably kind of like you, you’re teaching your kids how to wrestle right now, and how excited you get watching them.” And then we started talking about just how hard it is at first though. When my kids and also me, first started wrestling, at the very first it’s not fun, because you’re bad and you go out there and get beat up by a lot of other kids. In wrestling it’s not nice, they beat on you and it’s really bad. And John was talking about in dance, it’s the same thing. You go out there and you’re really bad at first. So looking at ourselves as coaches, if you listen to my recent podcast, as you grow in your company you go from being an entrepreneur to being a coach of coaching your team. That’s how your progression grows as you try to scale companies. So I’ve been looking a lot at how do I coach? How do I my team better, and how do I coach my kids in wrestling? It’s interesting because when somebody first starts a process, it’s not fun. In fact, it usually sucks at first. And it doesn’t matter if it’s wrestling or dance or if it’s Facebook ads, or building a funnel. Whatever, there’s this part at the beginning that sucks, where you have to get through the initial pain. You have to get through the pain of learning and trial and error and the frustration. And it’s tough. So how do I get people past that initial pain to the point where you actually have success and you like it and you desire it? I was thinking back on my wrestling, and I think I might’ve told this story before, but when I was wrestling growing up, I started in 8th grade. Actually, I started when I was really young, and I guess I hated it. So I did a year when I was 5 and then my parents said I quit because I hated it. So I started again in 8th grade and I was like, it’s kind of fun but I didn’t really like it. I was just kind of there because my dad was making me and I was getting beat up a lot and I was like, this just kind of sucks. Then I started learning and then 9th grade started and I still kind of like, I was going to practice and my dad would come after practice and try to train me so I wouldn’t get beat up as bad. I wasn’t good but I was kind of figuring it out a little bit. I still remember I had my first wrestle off and I wrestled this kid who’d been wrestling for 2 or 3 years and I beat him, which meant I was going to be JV. I was so scared because that meant I was going to be in a match, it was going to be in the middle of the gym and everything. So that week the tournament, or the wrestling match happened. I still remember wrestling Brighton High School, and I go to weigh ins, and in weigh ins I go and step on the scale and then the guy steps on the scale after me and he’s this guy and he has a mustache. To this day I still can’t grow a mustache. And he’s on there in a mustache and I’m like, what in the world? I remember going out and going up to the gym and they had the wrestling mats out and getting warmed up, and the only people in the stands were my mom and dad and like 3 other parents and that was it. Everyone’s going out, everyone in the first match is going out, and the second, and I’m getting so nervous. Finally it’s my turn and I go out there and I’m in my singlet, super nervous and awkward and there’s this guy across from me who’s got a mustache. I was like, this guy, this is real, this is a big dude. So I shake his hand we started wrestling and at the end of the match I won. I remember getting my hand raised and looking up into the audience and seeing my mom and dad, seeing my dad jumping around. From that moment forward I was a wrestler. That’s when I got the desire I needed. When you have desire it becomes easier. When you have desire, you’ll do anything. I wouldn’t eat for four or five days out of the week to cut weight, to make weight, because I loved it so much. When desire happens it becomes easy. So a lot of you guys, it’s the same thing. In business you kind of want to do it and there’s kind of that phase in there where you’re like, “Do I do it, do I not do it?” And a lot of people get stuck in that before they ever get the desire. When you get the desire it all becomes easy, because now you’re obsessed with it, you’re going to read and study and do it whether you’re successful or not. You don’t even care, you’re just going to go, go, go because you got that desire. So for me, it’s like as a coach of you guys and also a coach of my team, and now my kids, it’s like how do you create that initial desire fast? You have to get past that initial pain and learning curve so you can get to the desire as quick as you can. So that’s my question for you, for yourself, for your team, for everyone. How do I get past the pain and get to the desire? Because when the desire hits, it’s fun. I always tell people I’d rather have kids with desire than kids with talent. Because talent doesn’t mean you’re going to be successful, desire does. In fact, I never thought I was a very good athlete growing up, but I had insane desire. Same thing in business, I don’t think I was the most charismatic, I was nervous, I talked too fast, still kind of do a little bit. But I had desire and I loved it and became obsessed with it. So that’s the key, getting past the pain until you have desire. So for yourself initially, look at yourself. Are you in this pain point? If so, it’s like how do I create desire? How do I make it so I’m obsessed with this thing, where it’s fun and I love it and I can’t stop thinking about it? That’s what you gotta get to because that’s when it becomes easy. It’s not work anymore, it’s just fun. With my kids I’ve been thinking about that. How do I get them to have desire? Wrestling, the best way to get desire is to get a win. Right now, and especially when my kids first started, they wanted to quit every single day. They’d come up to me literally on the water breaks, “Hey dad, can we quit now?” I’m like, “Dude, we’re in the middle of practice.” They’re like, “Well, can we quit now?” “ No, you cannot quit.” And then they go to matches and just get beat on. And it’s like, I have to get them good enough that they can win, because when you win, then you’ll get desire. So I think for you guys, it’s like how do I create that initial win in your business, in your life, in whatever it might be? Because you get that first win, you taste it. I got my hand raised and I’m looking at this guy with a mustache and I beat him, boom, that’s when I had the desire. That’s when I became a wrestler. That’s when, for you, when you became an entrepreneur. That’s when you became whatever it is for you. So how do you get those quick wins fast, so you can create desire? How do you get past that initial pain? A lot of entrepreneurs come to me initially, come to me like, “I have this idea a for a project, Russell.” And they give me these projects that are insanely big. I’m like, “That sounds amazing. If you had ten million dollars in funding you should run after that. But you don’t. So let’s pick a smaller thing. Let’s get a win. Let’s practice.” My first win was a little product called Zipbrander. And then how to make potato gun. And then a form fortune. These little stupid things that were little wins, but then that little win creates the desire, and then that desire is what drives you to the big wins. So think about that for yourself. How do you create those little wins? How do you get past the initial pain so you can have a win and get desire? When you’re training new people on your team, how do you give them the initial win so they have desire? So I’m putting it out there as a thought. I don’t know the answer, it’s different every situation. But just know that’s your goal, to get past the initial pain of a new thing, so they can create desire, then from there, they’ll go on their own, and it’ll run and be easy. So I hope that helps you guys, appreciate you all. Have an amazing day, and if you are on iTunes right now, please go like an comment. We just opened up a new channel, which is where you guys are on right now. So if you go comment on the new channel, that’d be awesome. If you are on the old channel still getting these, you are not able to leave a comment. But if you go to iTunes and search for Marketing Secrets, you can subscribe to the new channel and you can leave a comment, which would be awesome. And if you are here on YouTube watching this, please subscribe to our channel, like it, leave a comment and I’d really appreciate that. That’d be awesome. Thanks again you guys and we’ll talk to you soon. Bye.

In this episode we talk with Robin Jacobs, Head Football Coach at Brighton High School. Also, Jeff Ireland, and sports news.

Sports talk for the Mid-South. Tigers, Grizzlies, College Football Playoffs. Brighton High School basketball coach Stan Gatlin.

Grizz up 2-1! Lots of praise for Brighton High School lately. What would the playoffs be like in the NBA without divisions? Tennessee has a new basketball coach.