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The Jones Twins talk about their documentary film project, which blends comedic and surreal elements that reflect their legacy as New York-based writers/performance artists, and uncovers their unique backstory of growing up as bi-racial identical twins adopted by loving Black parents. www.Jonestwinslove.com
There are teams that gain success with championships and superstar players. Yet very few teams become ingrained in the culture and identity of a city. From their debut in 1967 with the backdrop of the city's aerospace industry which gave Seattle its "supersonic" name to the rise of players such as Fred Brown, Dale Ellis, and Nate McMillian. Still others with colorful nicknames such as "Slick" and "The X-Man". This team from the "Emerald City" also had "The Wizard, "The Reign Man" and "The Glove". Throughout their history, the Seattle SuperSonics weren't just a team based in the Pacific northwest, they were a vibe. In this episode of the podcast, Dana Auguster and Charles Combs will take a look back at one of the most beloved franchises in NBA history which in a few years, may be making a triumphant return. The Seattle SuperSonics, the first pro sports team in the city of Seattle, was one of the most successful franchises in the NBA whos history is filled with a myriad of all star players and hall of famers including a star point guard that played in the teams early years that would eventually lead them to their only championship while serving as their head coach. Also we will talk about the team owner who not only threatened the NBA by taking his team to join with the American Basketball Association but also talked openly about leaving Seattle all together to be a direct rival to the Lakers in Los Angeles. Speaking of leaving town, we will also talk about the heartbreaking and controversial move in 2008 as the sonics left the pacific northwest to find literal greener pastures in Oklahoma City. Leaving an empty shell in the coffee Capital of the world and fans still waiting, still hoping and still holding onto the Green and Gold. Rounding out the episode we will send a shout out to the Sonics first bonified superstar. In the fall of 1970, a young player arrived in Seattle from the ABA named Spencer Haywood. He not only he took on the best of the NBA on the court, but he took on the league itself off the court and then -- in court. Paving the way for college underclassmen to be eligible for the NBA draft. To contact the show, please drop us a line at Historically.Speaking.Sports@gmail.com.
Send us Fan MailEpisode 325 The Fly Fishing CommunityLast weekend we hosted our first Trout & Salmon Gathering at the Fox and Hounds down in Devon.The hotel has a special place in my heart as I spent 12 years of my life guiding the hotel's water.I'm always a little nervous ahead of these events but there was no need to worry.We kicked off with a film and went on to have talks, demos, tying, good food and even some music.The big clue I had was when groups of strangers were sat together for dinner and continued talking long after the food had been cleared.We were lucky to have some amazing guests to share their knowledge with attendees including Paul Procter, Simon Kidd, Gareth Lewis, Pete Cockwill, Jay Bartlett, Ed Thomson, Fred Brown, Harry Chance, Ed Noyes and many more.In-between my various duties I got the chance to speak with some of the people there about fishing and to capture a little of what went on.It was amazing fun and I hope you enjoy this episode.
CHRIS BROUSSARD (First Things First, FS1) INTERVIEW ATTACHED Consider this perfect timing as the NBA Board of Governors has just approved the preliminary vote to explore expansion to Las Vegas and Seattle! We get Chris' thoughts on the announcement. How should Seattle fans feel about this? Is it ok to be excited? How close to the end of this are we? Is there enough talent in the NBA to allow for expansion? How difficult will it be for the expansion franchises to have success? :30- IAN FURNESS joins the show with his instant reaction to the Sonics news this morning. How does he personally feel about this first step? :45- We get listener reaction to the Sonics news! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Send us a textEpisode 314 - River Walks and Streamer Talk on the River TawI catch up with friend Fred Brown for bacon sandwiches and a walk along the river.He now lives in Devon and like me, his home water is the Taw.I take him to where I spend most of my time fishing as we walk the river and plan trips for next year.Fred is an extremely talented angler who enjoys both salmon, sea trout and brown trout fishing.He has been fishing streamers for a while now and appears in the excellent River Trout Streamer Fishing Book by Theo Pike.I get some advice on how to fish them on a few of the pools we walk that I hope you'll find useful.A river always looks most beautiful when you can't fish it but it didn't matter. It was just good to be there.
From the classic film "Paris Is Burning", to Madonna's hit video "VOGUE", to the FX tv series "POSE" - everyone seems to have some media exposure to the underground LGBTQ+ world of "ballroom". Now there's a new coffee table book that celebrate the triumphs and beauty of the movement's creators. We walk to the author, about his journey and how the project came to fruition!
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There's an old saying which is now scientifically proven: "One drop of Black blood, means you're Black!." Listen to Andrea J. Fulton, Founder of the Fulton Arts Foundation (ABCfulton.org), as she explores the history and themes of that adage, through her play called "ONE DROP", being co-presented as dinner-theater at the John Wesley United Methodist Church in Brooklyn, NY, April 18-20th! Don't miss it!
In this episode of Sports the NEMO Way we bring the OKC Thunder top 5 to the table for discussion.
Pianist, composer and WQXR Radio Host Terrance McKnight chats with Fred Brown, about growing up Black in the South, the son of a minister playing music for his church, his days learning classical music Morehouse College in Atlanta, and the inspiration behind the creation of "Every Voice" - a new podcast devoted to marginalized perspectives and personalities in opera and classical music.
This week, Fred Brown joins us for being Being John Malkovich. WIll Cameron Diaz ever forgive Kai? Are sweatpants problematic? Has Jim been unlikable this whole time? “Give this man a Nickelodeon Kids Award.” - Fred Brown Go to linktr.ee/rottentreasure listen, like, follow, rate and review. It really helps the show! Captain's Log Shout-out: gofund.me/a0774fd3 or @Kai-Bobbi on Venmo to help out with The Other Host's vet bills for their cat Oliver's surgery.
Fred Brown has been going to the same Dunkin' on Lewis Street every day for the past 40 years and has become close with the manager and employees. WBZ's James Rojas reports:
Kudo CEO Ryan Lewis and NBA legend “Downtown” Fred Brown join Rick to discuss KUDO's protein-powered snacks and nutritional gummies. Kudo products are non-GMO, gluten-free and created to help health-conscious consumers snack (and supplement) without guilt. Kudo, The Good Conscience Snack Co., entered the functional foods market in 2022 with a product line that features … Continue reading Kudo CEO Ryan Lewis and NBA legend “Downtown” Fred Brown on Snacking Products →
We are EXCITED to welcome indy game devolper Fred Brown to talk Crystal Story: Dawn of Dusk with the cage! Please check out Crystal Story and Fred Brown Below: https://bredfrown.itch.io/crystal-story https://store.steampowered.com/app/1746590/Crystal_Story_Dawn_of_Dusk/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCh1aaphqW0foMBizmlbejSA https://www.instagram.com/fredbreezyfosheezy/ https://twitter.com/bredfrown https://www.twitch.tv/bredfrown https://twitter.com/thecrystalstory https://bredfrown.tumblr.com/ NerdCage LIVE is... Jay Saint G Joe of FallenOne Gaming @Pretty Guardian Derek aka IAmTheOneWhoNerds NerdCage LIVE MERCH STORE IS NOW OPEN!! BUY OFFICAL MERCH BELOW: https://www.teepublic.com/user/nerdcage-live-merchstore The greatest hangout spot for all things NERD Culture is over on the Facebook Discussion group known as NERDCAGE NATION! Join over in the link below: https://www.facebook.com/groups/516827829468308 The NerdCage LIVE DISCORD Server is Now Up and Running! Join over in the link below: https://discord.com/channels/830576035698835466/947318441394700331 Every Tuesday we play old school and new school games on TWITCH! https://Twitch.TV/NerdCageLive For updates check out our Twitter: https://Twitter.com/Nerd_Cage and on Instagram: https://Instagram.com/Nerd_Cage Follow Pretty Guardian on her other platforms: https://www.youtube.com/c/PrettyGuardian https://www.twitch.tv/xprettyguardian https://www.facebook.com/prettyguardian2020 https://discord.com/invite/djGGC9t https://www.instagram.com/xprettyguardianx/ https://steamcommunity.com/id/xprettyguardianx/ And Derek's other platforms: https://www.youtube.com/user/Derekofthedead https://www.facebook.com/bonuscommentary https://www.twitch.tv/iamtheonewhonerds Logo and Banner designed by Michael Long. Animated Intro and Outro created by Roy Miles "NerdCage LIVE Intro", "NerdCage LIVE Outro", "'NerdCage LIVE on Twitch" and "NerdCage LIVE & Friends" Voiced and Produced by Matthew Farden. Written and edited by Jay Saint G. "Rage In The Cage" Voiced and Produced by Matthew Farden, Written by Jay Saint G visual intro by Jay Saint G with music provided by White Bat Audio. If you want Matthew Farden to voice YOUR work check out his website at: www.matthewfarden.com Music provided by Bensound at www.bensound.com "Rage In The Cage" and "LIVE on Twitch" Bedmusic by Max Brhon - "Humanity" [NCS Release] you can find it here: https://youtu.be/OJhqsUnKUWw Audio Only Podcasts for NerdCage LIVE Available below: Podbean: nerdcagelive.podbean.com Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5D6nUQE8PwgEolfLVahyYK Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=547026&refid=stpr TuneIn: tunein.com/podcasts/Media--Entertainment-Podcasts/NerdCage-Live-p1337681/?topicId=149341541 Audible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PvjRIkwIl8 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nerdcage-live/id1520077541 iHeartRadio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-nerdcage-live-68316953/ Also now on Pandora! https://www.pandora.com/podcast/nerdcage-live/PC:41155 Write a review of our show here on Podchaser: https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/nerdcage-live-1312112
This week's guest Fred Brown, is a father of three and raising his niece Nia in the wake of the death of both of her parents. While navigating her unique trauma, Fred and his village work to assure his niece that she's not alone. Knowing he would be the one to raise Nia, Fred continues to instill in her the legacy of academic rigor that meant so much to her parents. On the firmer side of things are the whoopings they all endured that are no longer allowed and they trade stories from the trenches. On the softer side is the therapy that they all advocate for. Fred also makes sure to spend individual time with each child, knowing what they like and shares his confusion at their ever-changing interests. As always, FatherShould takes a firm/soft approach, taking us from the most poignant moments of life and loss, and back to the hilarious. Join to hear what Fleming advises parents what to look for in potential godparents and Ms. Von's tireless defense of Geminis everywhere.
This is Stephen Schmidt from the Gazette digital news desk and I'm here with your update for Friday, June 24. Back below 90 we go for the final day of the work week. According to the National Weather Service it will be mostly sunny with a high near 86 degrees on Friday in the Cedar Rapids area. There will be increasing clouds Friday with a low of 69 degrees. There will be a good chance of rain early Saturday morning. Warmer temperatures will return on Saturday and with that will come storms, but the push and pull will result in even cooler temperatures afterward. Iowa Democrats argued Thursday the state offers a path to victory for long-shot candidates and opportunities for meaningful conversations with rural Americans and Iowans from every walk of life as they made their pitch to hold onto their place at the front of the party's presidential nominating calendar. State party officials presented proposed changes for caucuses to the Democratic National Committee's Rules & Bylaws Committee in Washington in an effort to hold onto their first-in-the-nation status. Iowa Democratic Party Chairman Ross Wilburn told committee members Iowa presents a “unique opportunity” for presidential candidates to connect with voters distributed across urban, rural and suburban areas in a “presidential swing state” where a majority of congressional districts are competitive. The DNC rules committee voted in April to reopen the presidential nominating window, forcing all interested states — including the current early-nominating states of Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina — to apply for a spot. Iowa has long drawn criticism for being a first in the nation presidential contest given the state's lack of diversity and confusing caucus setup. The party hopes that the proposed changes to the state's caucus might help the state keep its traditional spot at the front of the line. According to the Associated Press, the United States Senate easily approved a bipartisan https://apnews.com/article/health-violence-gun-politics-mental-ab399a7a1c5eea98bcd12e944679355f (gun violence bill) Thursday, setting up final approval of what will be Congress' most far-reaching response in decades to the nation's run of brutal mass shootings. After years of futile Democratic efforts to curb firearms, https://apnews.com/article/shootings-texas-new-york-violence-buffalo-df9202d5686880aab00559979d180e17 (15 Republicans joined with them as both sides decided inaction was untenable) after last month's rampages in https://apnews.com/article/buffalo-supermarket-shooting-victims-982351652caf7ecf3da304c6c64f62fb (New York) and https://apnews.com/article/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-may-24-584466945120 (Texas). It took weeks of closed-door talks but senators emerged with a compromise embodying incremental change intended to stop more bloodshed. Senators Chuck Grassley and Joni Ernst split votes, with Grassley voting no and Ernst voting yes. The $13 billion measure would toughen background checks for the youngest gun buyers, keep firearms from more domestic violence offenders and help states put in place red flag laws that make it easier for authorities to take weapons from people judged to be dangerous. It would also fund local programs for school safety, mental health and violence prevention. Iowa's Keegan Murray was selected by the Sacramento Kings with the fourth pick in Thursday's NBA draft. Murray, from Cedar Rapids Prairie, became the highest NBA draft pick ever from Iowa. Fred Brown went sixth in 1971. Murray is the Hawkeyes' first Top 10 pick since Ronnie Lester in 1980. Murray joins a team that hasn't reached the NBA playoffs since 2006. They went 30-52 this season. Kings GM Monte McNair said Murray was an easy choice at No. 4. “Ultimately,” he said, “after sitting in the room with my front office staff, our whole staff, our scouting department, our analytics department, (it) became unanimous that Keegan Murray was the best player...
In episode one, part two of Pastor Dale's Foundations of Faith and Ministry, we discuss Heart For The World's culture, salvation and water baptisms with Pastor Thomas Bulger and Fred Brown. There has never been a time where there is a greater need for Christian Leaders to be raised up to lead for Christ in their families, churches, and vocational work. Christian leaders change the atmosphere, add value, and influence others to follow Christ at the very highest level. Pastor Dale is passionate about seeing a new generation of Christian leaders rise up to take their place so God's Kingdom can move forward in the world. For this to happen, people must understand the very special kind of leadership Jesus taught. We call it “servant leadership.” There are key differences between servant leadership and secular leadership that is often taught and modeled today. For the Dale Walker Leadership Podcast homepage, visit https://anchor.fm/dale-walker-leadership For more information on the HFTW School of Missions & Ministry go to https://www.hftw.church/course-descriptions
NAON had the pleasure of speaking with Erica Taylor, MD, MBA, FAAOS, FAOA Founder and CEO of the Orthopaedic Diversity Leadership Consortium and Dr. Fred Brown, DNP, RN, CENP Director of Generalist Education to explore Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion (JEDI) principles from their experiences within the field of orthopaedics. Dr. Taylor is an Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at Duke University School of Medicine, Chief of Surgery at Duke Raleigh Hospital, Associate Chief Medical Officer of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion at Duke PDC and Vice Chair of Diversity, Duke Orthopaedics. Dr. Brown is an Assistant Professor for Adult Health and Gerontological Nursing at Rush University College of Nursing. In this first discussion on JEDI, NAON starts the conversation with an overview into program components through education. Our guests consider the action behind learning and a need to do more listening. Our guests discuss teaching JEDI principles within organizations to promote initiatives. It's their belief a key step to engaging in conversation on JEDI in any organization starts through forming genuine, authentic co-worker relationships. Our guests talk about creating value perception and providing equitable care through diversity in the workforce. We'll dig into quality improvement projects and how social determinants of health play a huge role in patient reported outcomes. We hope you join the NAON JEDI conversation.
On this special edition of "Listen in With KNN '' presented by FOX Sports Radio, host Kelsey Nicole Nelson welcomed special guest former Georgetown Hoyas Basketball Guard Fred Brown to the show! The duo discussed the Final Four and the NCAA March Madness Tournament as well as reflect back on the glory days of the Georgetown University basketball program when they were dominant. Relieve some epic Big East battles and more! #LIWKNN #ListenInWithKNN
Fred Brown left university to pursue his dream job as a fishing guide in Mozambique. He later returned back to the UK where he discovered life in London wasn't for him and spent all of his spare time travelling the UK with a fly rod and fishing the rivers while sleeping in his car.He is a dedicated follower of streamer fishing and I talk with him about the techniques he uses to fish this method.We cover a lot of other ground that I hope you'll find interesting.
Caitlin and Fred seek help in resolving a dinner time dispute that's ruined their relationship. Kate shares her summer plans as mediation season comes to an end.
Fred Brown is back again to discuss COVID-19 vaccines and mutations.
The boys were joined this week by Fred Brown, a true surveyor that has been working in the profession for over 40 years. Fred is proud to be the Director of Operations for Golden Field Services, Inc. (GFSI). GFSI specializes in providing professional services for the pipeline, power and telecommunication industries nationwide and has been doing so for over 25 years. We discussed what makes GFSI unique, the direction these vulnerable industries are heading and the challenges surveyors face when working in these projects. Fred has surveyed in most states of the United States as well as for several years overseas in the Oil & Gas and Mining & Metals Industries. Needless to say, he has some great stories, a few of which he was kind enough to share with us. Music for this episode by Midnight Oil!
As yet another piece of local infrastructure burns before our very eyes, we discuss the latest happenings at home and abroad in Frankfort. This week city council discussed the latest gravel updates and rental assistance among other things. Everyone's least favorite councilor Fred Brown dug himself into a deeper hole with the work session on banning Conversion Therapy in Lexington. Meanwhile in Frankfort, the legislative committees are up to their usual eroding of civil liberties. Follow us on twitter @LamePod Email us at: LexLamePod@gmail.com You can access minutes for city council at: https://lexington.legistar.com/Calendar.aspx Find out more at https://lame-pod.pinecast.co
This one ran suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuper long, and so we had no choice but to break it into two parts. This is part two, which contains the rest of our chat with Fred Brown, our resident infectious disease expert, to dive in on the latest with COVID-19. The vaccines and distribution of them. The variants and mutations that are hitting the public and are even here in Michigan now. As always with these, we strongly recommend watching the video if you want the full effect, which is embedded in this post or available on our IT in the D Facebook page. Fred's full presentation can be found here: It and the d 1.18.21
This one ran suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuper long, and so we had no choice but to break it into two parts. This is part one, which contains our usual opening banter and topics before we dive in with Fred Brown, our resident infectious disease expert, to dive in on the latest with COVID-19. The vaccines and distribution of them. The variants and mutations that are hitting the public and are even here in Michigan now. As always with these, we strongly recommend watching the video if you want the full effect, which is embedded in this post or available on our IT in the D Facebook page. Fred's full presentation can be found here: It and the d 1.18.21
We are once again joined by infectious disease expert Fred Brown for this episode. This time, we dive into the recent news about vaccines - what the real story is with them, when they're going to be available to which groups of people, and when you might be able to expect to get one... and where. Challenges still facing the country, Why things aren't looking too good for the rest of 2020 and into mid-2021. All of this and more this week. As with every episode Fred is on, we recommend catching the video version of this if you can, since the context of his slides are important to understanding the words and conversational flow. His presentation: COVID VACCINE HBS 2020 11 15 FINALv1
Once again we dive in with infectious disease expert Fred Brown, this time to talk through the potential impacts of the Michigan Supreme Court ruling, what the subsequent Department of Health ruling means, what Trump's prognosis may look like in the coming days, and so much more. Then we all freak out when we find out how much Blac Chyna makes on Only Fans per month and a whole host of other topics. Listen in! Fred Brown is at: http://www.fredbrown.com/ Fred's presentation from tonight is here: COVID MI Supreme Court
Episode 364 - Fred Brown Talks Vaccines, Economic Impact, and more COVID-19 news
Episode 361 – Fred Brown and COVID-19 Updates, Schools Opening
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I promise myself the next time we had Fred on, I would have ominous music cued up for the background and I failed If you don’t know who that faces in the bottom left, or if you’re listening to the podcast after we are joined by the illustrious one, um, one of our, the best guests we’ve ever had, and he’s been gracious enough to be on the show for a third time. Mr. Fred Brown, sir. How are you? And now you didn’t need to wear a tie on our behalf. I got, uh, I, I, I was meeting the appropriate standards, so I appreciate, you know, what we thought that everything was kind of making sense. Right? You made, you brought the world to our fingertips. You started to make sense and give a stats. And it seems like since you left us, the planet has completely on that right. Going on. Oh man. Yeah. So yeah, the covert writer is really the tough one. It turns out, uh, we’re we’re finding out the good news is we’re finding out more about it. The Bad news is that we’re not managing very well, especially in the Americas. So if you look at the coven outbreak, You don’t say [inaudible] Okay. 60% of it between kind of a U S and Brazil. And uh, yeah, we, we made, we made some, some tactical areas. We, and it’s just completely unforgiving, you know, this is about nature. So if you, you know, if you make a mistake with nature, it’s just, it’s just merciless and that’s, that’s where we’re at. We’re at right now. Uh, I ran some numbers just so you, if you’re interested in for sure. And, and um, yeah, you know what I, uh, hold on, Honestly, I feel like we’re seeing the, basically the effect of the numbers that you showed us the last or the first time you were on where this is not a one, like even, okay. You hear about, you know, the, uh, the R T value and it’s okay. It’s just over one. That doesn’t mean that for every like one person infects one person we’re seeing that skyrocketing exponential growth rate right now, which is super concerning. Yeah, it is. If you know, the epidemiology is about numbers, eyebrows, and numbers, everyone’s kind of coming in at about 200,000 through, uh, September one. That’s a lot of people in, out of state to die right now, death count. And by end of next year, Wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, hold on. I want to make sure I understood. Okay. So 200 that by September. Yeah. September one, we can do it Only at 130,000 now. Yeah. Wow. Spike and a couple two to three weeks, but if we’re not lucky and it keeps going, then it will be definitely I have a tip. It spikes like you think the, you know, at around about three weeks in terms of new cases, then we have to wait four to five weeks for the death rates and, uh, and the, and the decline. And so September one likely, you know, certain kind of labor day timeframe, it’ll be about a thousand. And, and unfortunately if we run the numbers, you know, for what we’re expecting by the end of next year, by end of 2021, uh, even if we have a partially available vaccine, and even if we do some smart things, uh, we’ll probably be close to a million. So, and I guess that actually feeds into a, like one of the questions here, what he said. Yes, I, yes, I did. Yeah. Um, I’m trying not to drink more right now that, that, uh, that no, but like, so like that, that’s one of the things that cause, and this dovetails with what we were just talking about, which is why I want to talk about that is I’m seeing a lot of, I don’t know if they’re bad math or uninformed arguments that are saying, okay, all these, we’re seeing all this skyrocketing in cases, but everybody says the death rate is declining, so it’s no big deal. Right. So, and I’ve, I’ve Fred, I’ve done my part. I’ve, I’ve tried, but I am only me. So tell people why that, the case, like why are we seeing, you know, 15,000 a day and you know, Florida and Arizona, everybody else, but we’re not seeing that one to one ratio yet. Yeah. Well it turns out that the death rate overall, compared to what we’re seeing out there is to planning, uh, slightly. And that’s because, uh, it’s a younger population. Uh, we’re getting a little bit better treating this. Uh, and, uh, and, uh, and, uh, we are testing a little bit, a little bit more. And so the death rate comparatively, um, uh, is, is it’s about we, we think the don’t work, we’re still not sure what the exact death rate is. Uh, we think it’s around between 0.7 and 1.25, give you a sense of that. Hulu is it’s 0.01. So there’s not, you get the 0.1%. You’re talking about something that’s 10 times more Debby than the flu. The reason that we’re not sure it’s because of the, there’s a, there’s a mutation, that’s a third. So if you look at Chicago, Northwestern just reported, they’re actually three different screens in Chicago. And one of the strains is about four and a half times more, uh, more effective than the other two. Uh, and so what we’re, and unfortunately it also goes into the nose a lot more. Uh, the original Chinese buyers sort of split into one, and I know it’s, but equally this one, but for folks in the nose, and unfortunately the nasal STEM you’ll have faculty STEM. Uh, it allows that that particular virus to get into the brain more effectively. So we’re seeing a lot more central nervous system results, uh, as well as this new virus with, for transmittable, uh, new strain, we call the complaints played three, uh, in this case has moved into the population. The next year is more prevalent than the original Springs were. So we’re having some challenges, just kind of understanding some of the basics about the epidemiology of the, uh, of the virus. And it could be, yes. What was some of the new information coming out that all the autopsies that are getting returned are, uh, an abnormal amount of blood clotting? Is that a newer strain or what’s a, what’s the story with that? So, and that actually dovetails into the question that I was going to ask, which, you know, basically it comes down to, you know, so we’re only, only, we’re only a few months into this relatively speaking, you know? So, I mean, I think that’s the hard part is what don’t we know yet. And like, you know, like when it comes to longterm effects and what are we still learning? So believe it or not, when you look at the number of resolve cases versus the number of the people who are still sick, uh, there are about 53% of our population that still was reporting, being sick. There are unresolved cases, so they’re, they’re out of the hospital, but they’re still having symptoms that are similar to what they’ve had in the past that got them into the hospital in the first place. And a lot of patients are flying back a month, two months afterwards and showing viral load increases again. So it’s sort of pumped down viral, comes out in little peaks, two to three months out. And we’re, I feel that that’s a re-infection with some doc cause they’re saying, or which means that, and unfortunately in the reinfection, but they’re seeing if they, if they are true that the Nunes system, uh, you know, develops antibodies, you have some antibodies for about three months apparently. And if you’ve got a fairly decent medication and then the antibodies just appears, we will, aren’t saying, Hey, I got some antibodies and they’re going out and getting infected. And it turns out the second time you get this thing, it can be extremely dangerous and even worse, worse than the first, then your first bout of it that’s happened three or four times. I don’t have it go. We’re looking at that pretty carefully, Like chickenpox, like, like if you get like a mild case, it might not stick and you might not have the immunity and then you get like, and then the sec, and then if you get it again, it’s Oh my God. So much worse That can happen with chickenpox moving to shingles. That’s exactly right. And that’s a daily fevers, another one where you get at once and that’s what have, you know, you’re out there. If you can get anybody to get again, it just keeps you like a ton of bricks. They need to rename both of those, by the way, because every take me see it, like I got shingles, it’s kind like, Oh boy, I hope everything’s okay. Like Lyme disease or like, Oh, well, you know, what’d you drink too much, like too many Corona, like, you know, anyway. Um, but no, I’ll go back to the blood clotting. Oh, I’m sorry. Yes. The blood. So here here’s what happens. The truth is that our decorate hasn’t really been going down what’s happened is that we’ve had slightly fewer hospitalizations. What happened when 80% of the people get this stuff and about 20%, half, unfortunately have a bad enough, they have to go to the hospital. That segment has not changed very much. Once you get into the hospital, about 30% of those people go on to go on to the ICU and about 10 to 15% of those people die. Uh, so, you know, it’s, it’s kind of, so, and that’s about a 6.8% death rate if you’re out of the hospital and that’s been very consistent in all across countries. And so on that hasn’t really changed. Uh, what has changed is with people with people’s sensibilities. So it turns out that there are two things that really drive, what are they going to die? The first one is, are you more susceptible? Because you’ve got conditioned, preexisting conditions like hypertension, especially in the United States. If you’re obese, if you smoke, if you have asthma and of course, diabetes and some other, other factors, those factors, and it turns out sadly, if you’ve got a lot of, um, testosterone and your, and a lot of androgens, chances are, you’ve got a lot of 30% greater chance of having a very bad case of COVID then they’re not. So balding them, people with prostate conditions, the management in those categories, You’re just throwing punches at all of us right now. Aren’t you like that? Yeah. Are the two things really defined 41. So what about 41% of U S is it real, is it realistic having a bad base of this thing die about what that leaves, you know, 90% of us, we can walk around and say, Hey, I’m in good shape. I don’t have worried about it. And that’s why you see about half people wearing masks and half not. If you go out publicly. So this is, this is a two parter. Um, I didn’t have to request them though. I should have. So what happens is that the virus gets in and you start doing symptoms between two and 14 days after, once you start showing symptoms about, about five to eight days later, it gets into your lungs and start coughing and having headaches and so on right after, and then it moves from there to your blood. So, and that happens about six to 8% of the time. If it gets into your blood, then you’re in big trouble. And that’s what you, that that is causing the clotting. And it’s basically this, uh, this, this, uh, and, and it turns out also if you’re type a or B, if you’re type O you have about a 30% less chance of getting, getting the diseases with gen X and the way it works. Uh, so yeah. Is it similar to like similar, like sepsis? It’s like, it’s okay if it’s contained in a little bit of it gets in your blood, you’re kind of screwed. Cause that’s, that’s what I had to deal with November. Yeah. Acceptance as well is actually worse is more deadly than by acceptance. But yeah. So, uh, once you get into the ICU environment here, it’s only about 30%. So it’s close. Uh, people die of two things. One is too much fluid in the blood. They actually Google them and can’t get enough air and into the, into the, into the lungs, that’s one part of the, but the other cause of death that’s even more traumatic is, uh, it causes permanent organ damage. If you are to survive, it is the spotting back there. And that’s why I love the reason that people give antibiotic vectors and so on. I think Aspen and so on. Once you get past that, those factors. So we are starting to try to treat that early and fat, the trick about treating COVID and other viruses that predict early. Cause once it starts, once it replicates, it replicates extremely rapidly. And then it’s that overwhelmed full system. It does two things. The first thing it does is it, it fools the body and sneaks its way in the cell. So the body generally doesn’t know how bad the infection is and does that with sugar holdings, which are, and it goes into [inaudible] inhibitor, which is very critical for mobile. I’m sorry, like sugar coatings, like I’m like, I’m like seriously, like coronavirus is driving around with a panel van that says free candy on the side. That’s amazing. They don’t actually reveal itself until it’s, that are very similar to the a and B type of blood, uh, glycoproteins on your blood and those sort of fools. Exactly. It’s all these pokings and then it’s Coke, those groupings of sugar and it kind of fools the body and to thinking this isn’t a very big attack and it’s sort of, I’m sort of used to this anyway, as part of my body, I’m not going to really fight much. Once it gets into the cells, then the cells, the body surprise and overreact, especially among people who were over 60 and 70 and it would have what they call a cytokine storm. And that’s exactly what Bob was talking about with receptionist when that cytokine storm occurs and the body just starts to completely attack itself and everything in it. Wow. So it’s a sort of smell and sort of a wild ed allergy and extremely hard to target control because all the asymptomatic, uh, transforms can go. I don’t know if you’ve seen this yet, but it was, it was actually really, I found it very interesting and it was, it was a good watch and it’s only three episodes. Um, it’s, it’s on Netflix and it’s called, um, I believe it’s called coronavirus explained or understanding coronavirus one of the two. Um, and you could tell that it was, it was, I think it got released like maybe a month ago. Um, and you could tell they were working with the best information they had at the time, but as far as like the origin of it and the, and the science behind it, like, like what you were just talking about with how it infects cells, I thought they did a really good job with that. So, I mean, for people that are out there that want to check that out and like, cause they really, they do cutesy little cartoons and to show you like how this stuff actually flows and all that kind of stuff. But I guess the next question I want to get to, cause I know it’s, it’s, it’s really upfront, um, on a lot of people’s minds right now, uh, is so like I know, uh, today, uh, Los Angeles just shut their bars and restaurants down again and also announced that, uh, their schools will not be reopening, um, on schedule. So, and I know, uh, I’ve got a, I’ve got a couple teachers on my friends list that asked the same question, like, what is your take on school’s reopening? And, and, and then doing it safely. Like I know we’ve seen a lot of kind of conflicting information coming from different sources at the top. Um, so from a just science guy perspective, like what, what is your take on this? So the reason you’re seeing conflicting conflicting data is because every school district is a little bit different. You know, if you go to the GP, they don’t have quite a bit kind of density. We need to now have the, they don’t have the amount of virus in the environment. They don’t have many communities, but as we knew, uh, and, um, the, so, so, you know, that’s a different kind of environment they can County or w w uh, Wayne or with home, or, and so there is a little bit of difference between the, the, the, the, the school. So that’s one thing. Um, the second thing is that, um, there is a fairness issue that people are worried about and that about half the U S population actually can’t afford, uh, individual computers, what they’re told them and all the internet. So they’re worried they’re going to be a whole who people, but really gonna get behind. It makes sense for a long period of time. So, so that’s why you’re seeing a lot of little, a lot of these issues, the last big issue, isn’t it, isn’t the economy. And it turns out that 16% officially of people saying, if I don’t have a daycare center, I can’t work. And can probably, it’s a lot higher than that. If people said, well, I can probably work, but I’m distracted half the time because I got kids who have needs. And I’ve a, you know, and I got to make that up after hours and it’s going to be, it’s a, it’s a challenge for them just to just be productive. So we got both kind of three things. Plus the socialization with children. It turns out the kids fall most behind in mathematics, most behind in mathematics. That’s the biggest issue. Clearly we do not need that to happen as a country anymore than we are. You have a choice of what to teach the kids face to face. I choose kind of mathematics. I would say the hard subjects for sure. Yeah. Maybe programming computer, because I could use that all myself. So, um, you know, those are the things that you really want to, if you have to have kids go to school in staggered and focus on one or two things for one at early ages, those are the big ones that really matter. And then as we get older, of course, they start to be able to study themselves and learn things on their own. But certainly, you know, third, fourth, fifth, sixth grade. So those are really critical years. You don’t want to fall too far behind, but there’s a big push on the one side. And that sort of overwhelming a lot of the true data, you know, cause there’s an economic set of data and reality. And then there’s the data we’ve got hail just came through with a big study and they actually modeled this pretty carefully. And basically their, their conclusion was that unless you’re testing college students about, uh, about, uh, two time, every two days, if you’re testing for the coronavirus, you will have an outbreak game four. So that, that was there. Well, and think about your average campus and burning through those tests every two weeks. Wow. And I think that’s true. The biggest issue we’ve got with the young kids is number one, we don’t actually know very much about yet. The reason we don’t really know very directly on kids is cooked meat. It’s a question because the schools were shut down. Yeah. We shouldn’t really go. We don’t as a medical community, we know very, very little about transmission, about death rates, about conflict. Kim’s about how long this thing lasts about France, about a space of Maddix, uh, about, about activities that call spread, all those things. We really don’t have any data really rolling the dice to some extent, but when I find a project, but that’s the best guest from university students and progressing that down then to elementary kids, the biggest issue we’ve got is in mixed household, where there are elderly people involved. So if you’re wanting to go and visit your grandma or grandma’s helping because mom and dad are working and the grandma’s helping out during the grown abide rescue times, there is a huge chance to attract Well. And I think that the two things that I’ve seen that really kind of just nail the problem to a T is one is, you know, kids cough like this, and you want them back in school. And then number two, if, if one kid on the bus has a project with glitter it, how many kids on the bus have glitter on them? Talk to these poor teachers. And they say, you know, I’m going back to school. Our school buses are vectors. We don’t have a double of school and we have to do a double duty, right? Don’t work. When I was in high school, we had no, sometimes we, when we didn’t have enough money, we would have half the students come at the same high school. Second half of the day, second half, second round of students would come through a high school and you can kind of divide that. But if you do the math, I do, I am aware a little bit. It’s only universities. There’s one university I’m working with their biggest lecture hall houses, 475 people. Yes. How many they can get into go back to their hall safely. Socially distance. No, no little bit better. But your host is going to go 10%. Yeah. Yeah. 75 people. That’s it. And that’s a classroom that normally goes 475 people. Okay. Well then let’s extrapolate that out. I mean, your typical, like I know the elementary school that’s right up the street from me, their typical classroom size is 30. So that’s down to seven. Well, yeah, yeah. Now luckily the kids don’t need quite as much space cause they don’t, you know, they don’t expect to quite as far, uh, you know, the, uh, but, but I feel badly for the teacher, but about a third of our teachers over 50 and that really puts you in a risky category, you know? So, um, I think, I think, you know, as I said, you know, in areas like California, it would be very dangerous to open things up where you’ve got a lot of coronavirus in the air and the air we’ve got a fast increase in, in, in case rates, uh, lots of communities spread. And you’ve got a, you know, a lot of, a lot of people living in close quarters, like in Los Angeles, they got 680,000 students going to that school. You know, that’s a hard situation and that’s why I think they closed it down. Uh, I think in Michigan, I think, um, it’s going to be very hard, uh, to open things up in densely populated areas, uh, at a certainly won’t be normal schooling. I think you’re going to have to have a hybrid approach, meaning you’re going to have to do some things at home and some things in the school. And the problem with that is, is that it hurts our economy, right? If you’re a mother or father at home trying to work with the kids and you know, they’re home Monday, Wednesday, Friday, that doesn’t really help me. I work. That’s a really, it’s a really challenging, it’s probably the most challenging thing we have. If you do this, if you do the math, uh, we think, um, depending on the situation between two and 4% of, of a, of a, of a, of a viral spread up to 25% of the level, I mean, elementary schools are Petri dishes. Let’s be honest. I mean, that’s, Well, if it’s two to four, because you’ve got, you know, you’ve got a social distancing and you don’t have that many students going to each school, um, uh, and they’re not staying in school quite as long and they have, uh, they have testing it’s regular. Then you’re talking about two to 4%. If you’re talking about schools that have more than 500 students that where you’re breaking against them and changing classes and brushing against other students, uh, say a hundred times a day. Yeah. Everybody going to their lockers, everybody going. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, then, then you’re talking about probably 55%. Uh, you know, you can, you could really get a spread the gold very, very rapidly. I mean, they’ve done a lot of the Matthew [inaudible] if we could be done with this, Fred, I got a, I got a quick question. Um, I’m like, you’re, you’re, you’re my voice have a voice of reason. The, the, you know, the reason of truth, whatever we want to call you, um, memes are floating around all the time. And the topic of the last three weeks has been masked. It seems like everybody’s yelling at the invisible boogeyman on social media, like to wear your mask. Well, who are you yelling at? Um, well, this one just came out today and I’m just curious if this, how much of this is bullshit. Um, it says mat mask protection efficiency in there, six masks, the two things that were alarming to me, like the surgical, the free mask that you get at, like the, you know, they say that one’s 80 or 90% good for virus, bacteria, dust and pollen. Right? The one that was interesting to me was the cloth mask. The one that they’re selling, like with like fashion tops, 0% effectiveness on the virus, a bacteria, 50% dust, 50%. And then the sponge mask, which kind of is like the formed, like a neoprene almost zeros across the board. So, you know, and then the other ones are mostly good. Um, but I was just curious as what the cloth mats going to sponge, like, cause that’s the one I see everyone wearing for the most part in particular. Yeah. Yeah. But then it says, uh, according to this meme, it says it’s garbage, but I, you know, I’m kind of wanting to come to you to say like, all right, make some sense of that. Yeah. So, uh, the physics is really simple. It’s it’s, if you can hold it basically it’s a physical barrier. So depending on how thick the physical barrier is, um, for the cloth, the regular quality, Well actually hold on. So Bob Lee, I guess clarifying question, is that meme, is that percentage protecting you or protecting others? It says mask protection, efficiency. I feel like that’s one of the things we’ve talked about all along is like, your mask is not about protecting you it’s it’s like, especially the cloth ones, it’s about keeping stuff from getting out, right? Yeah. But it says mass protection deficiency, that’s it. So I don’t know if it’s in our, you know, ingress or egress. I do not know. Yeah. It’s looking at, it’s looking at address a jet generally. That’s easier for them to experiment with. So usually it looks at a little machine that pumps out and stuff and they put stuff over the, uh, over, over base in, uh, uh, with various poles and, and the different fabrics. And basically a mask are quite effective now, but you need to have a couple of layers. If you only have one layer of, for example, of a, of sill, uh, then it’ll, it’s fairly ineffective if you have four layers. And so it is very effective. So it’s actually the physical barrier, uh, on, on those kinds of answers you’re describing. Yeah. So like this one that I run around with, like, it’s, it’s pretty thick. Like it’s, there’s at least a couple of layers in there. Yeah, no, I can’t. There’s no light coming in. Yeah, no, that’s probably about 60% effective. Now the difference between shout out to these guys. Okay. Okay. The difference between that and a surgical mask, or then 95 mask is weak and 95 mass actually eliminate 95% of particles that are less, that are up to a brief, better three microns, a 0.3 microns or less than size that’s, that’s a fairly small particle and it can really be effective. The other thing that those are those, those, those, those, uh, artificial fabrics have was electrostatic charges. And those electrostatic cars is actually a trap, the particles viral particles in them. So if you’re looking at an official surgical mask, but they don’t say it’s a surgical mask that is been manufactured under those kinds of conditions, that States, that means it has an electrostatic charge that actually blocks not just a physical barrier, but it has a chemical kind of like a static area as well. Same thing. [inaudible] certain kinds of fabrics And any fives got a 90, is it 95% on the virus, then a hundred percent on all the other bacteria, Dustin pollen, but others, go ahead, Randy. My other question with masks is that that effect deafness is just virus particles itself. And we’ve heard that COVID virus particles, aren’t transmitting just free form they’re in water drop. Great point. That’s great. That’s a great point. So the surgical masks are actually designed to stop blood splatter. And so that’ll, that’ll prevent liquid to a matter of them and entering as well. The cloth mass, not the reason we’re concerned about them, uh, while the particles, uh, is that, uh, we, we, we think there are three kinds of transmission. One is what they call fomites where the particle gets on a surface. And generally after about a day for most services, with the exception of aluminums plastics, then so, um, the virus will buy or investigate, uh, dry out, uh, the, the other. So the next kind of, of transmission is droplets people coughing at you and unfortunately, droplets coming off of you and getting into your mucous membranes. But the last time is actually the most kind of insidious. And that is, uh, we think that an aerosol, so these are 0.4 micron size droplets, uh, especially in dry weather. Uh, there are more, more of them, uh, and, um, uh, they can stay in the air for up to three hours of the COVID by us for tuberculosis, we can see on the air for six hours. Uh, so that’s a, it gives you a sense of, you know, so if you get into an elevator after four or five people got on it, uh, who’ve had COVID, there’s no one on the elevator. You sit there and handle them and, you know, go up a hundred floors. Okay. Yeah, it wasn’t didn’t that just happen. They had like what, 72, they had 72 cases track back to a woman who had been in an elevator by herself and yet the lingering effects yeah. Attack the disease. You know, if you think I’m pretty safe, as long as I’ve socially distanced and suddenly that, that changes all of a sudden, the rules have to change and all your policies change. It’s a challenge. Yeah. Conditioning stories that are going around right now. If you want to get people really pissed off closing the bar is one thing, but telling them to turn off their ACS and other what’s a, what’s the story with that? Well, I was gonna say, well, and that’s actually one of the questions that we’ve got is, you know, so what, what can, you know, as a, either a, a business owner or a homeowner or whatever, like what, what should we be looking at with our HVAC systems in order to like, you know, improve things or help as much as we can. Yeah. They’re there. So you can look at records to dock options, a friend of mine, uh, uh, as a scientist in the space, looking at ultraviolet light. Uh, so for example, some of the larger Ingersoll Rand, uh, air conditioners, those large manufacturers of central air conditioners, I’ll have two to two different, uh, opportunities to improve the HVAC system. The first is to do have a filter work now that can, that can wreak havoc. This is a balanced system. And if you suddenly block it even more than it was planned to be blocked, you can really destroy your whole compressor and everything else. So you have to make sure that the retrofit will work, but you can architect a much more, uh, uh, start to clean out a lot more of the particles and try to get the circulation of the ear, uh, through the system, uh, much more often frequently, you’ll have a complete circulation of the air in your office once every couple of hours, if you can get that down to 15, 20 minutes, I got a lot of bullying going on, but that, that, that, that really can make a difference. The second big thing is, is UBC line is it’s a frequency of light that, uh, is particularly deadly for the, for the coronavirus. And, uh, it can kill virus particles. The problem is you have to get the light everywhere on it. Uh, you can’t, we can’t have little shaded areas and things like that in, in the, and the, in the, in the duct work. Uh, so some, some, in some instances it’s pretty easy to retrofit and only takes us between two, a Dover, and then put in the UV light source. And other instances that really requires a think of the whole system. Uh, and then you want to look at the amount of, of what they go laminar flow. And that’s what we looked at working with three and four labs. It’s kinda like laminar flow. You’ve got to push the virus around and make sure it’s circulating and pointing to the systems, uh, effectively. But I, the, if you can keep your windows open or work outside, uh, it’s a lot safer than being inside, especially for extended duration. So the things that really drive this is, you know, how big is the crowd, uh, how much virus is in the year? How much circulation do you have and how long do you stay at, at, at a place by, or something here tends to be, uh, people breathing hard and heavily, uh, that, that causes most virus in the air. So if people are coughing or shouting, um, uh, then, then chances are, it’s going to quite a bit of virus in the ear. If they’re close to each other, not able socially distance, and you’re there for more than 15 minutes, you’ve got a chance to catch him Well. So in that kind of feeds in to the, one of the other questions that came in, as, you know, a lot of over the years, a lot of, uh, businesses have shifted to more of an open office concept, you know, instead of people that, you know, send everybody’s in cube farms and that kind of stuff, like, what do you do? So the number one thing is don’t sit across from me though, whatever you do, you don’t want to have people face to face reading. I didn’t go to back and forth with that. That happens a lot. Sadly that’s probably when the more efficient the system we had was to have, you know, call center and so on people facing each other, you know, sort of interested in why people occupied the mines don’t do that. Know the first thing you want to do is break that apart. So you’re not basing with the other and having, you know, people exchange a lot of, uh, a lot of air. Uh, second thing you want to do is look at the intake and the exhaling of the, of the, of the air conditioning system, make sure that you’re not pulling up a lot of, uh, a lot of that aerosols. Third thing you want to do is try to make as much space as you can generally, you know, your executive don’t have to be around anymore. They could be working like we are right now. And that that usually provides we’re a company that I work with about 40% more space, use that 40%. Let them, you sit in the CEO’s office, spread that out for the workers. Now every day, third thing is you want to make sure that you are hand-washing poly 10 times a day, uh, as a worker, uh, especially if you’re experiencing things. Fourth thing is no canteen. Now, no more cafeteria, no more workspaces, no more, no more, no congregating and Buffy breaks. Get them out the door and their cars bring green food in for them. You know, don’t, don’t, don’t, don’t open the cafeteria, cause that does a big cause. You know, try to test everyone coming in and going out and stagger that. So they, the timing, uh, needs, they don’t have to all congregate all at once. Try to get into the building together, whether they’re work basic. The other thing is cohorts try to keep people in groups. So they understand who they’ve been involved with. One of those people come down with something, at least you haven’t been exposed the entire, the entire community. You don’t do it. At least it will be controlled by a private people. Fourth thing is look at all your best seven, seven hours. Look at all your classes where those processes are able to be remote and not work with each other. Meaning you have to build with me, you have to buy an extra piece of equipment, will be blocked, carrying equipment, that kind of thing. Uh, try to make sure all those policies, uh, are able to be done remotely, singularly. Uh, if you have to have teams of people working together on a process, then make sure you have people really make three MPP. And finally you want to wash down everything every hour, uh, and then be cleaning every night. Well, that question came from someone. That question came from someone that, um, the, basically they have a it’s like, I think we talked about this before. There’s like 10 tables to a pod and it’s basically five on one side, five on the other. And then it just rows and rows and rows and rows of people. But they’ve put hockey glass partitions between the desks, but I can still touch my neighbor per se. So is that how much helpful is that versus just saying, Hey, I’m trying to do my part. Like, do you know what I’m saying? Like, I think I’ve checked the box on the form to comply with our liability requirements. Yeah. It’s like changing your profile picture on Facebook. Like I am helping, At least they’re crying, right? I mean, at least at least, you know, I, you know, the worst is if they, if they just said, well, we shut down for a little while was open the doors, but at least fine, we can start all over again. But that’s like, that’s, that’s really negative because things have changed a lot. If at least people have applied to do something, um, then that’s, that’s a positive, right? It means you don’t your carers and trying to make sure we’re staying healthy. But the truth is if you’re not able to maintain a six foot distance, um, uh, with people and you’re sitting across from them and you’re able to physically touch them and you’re sharing environments like that, um, there’s a, there’s a, there’s a good chance that if things go through, especially if people are talking a lot, um, you know, Oh yeah, that’s you’re so the first thing you want to do is understand your own level of security, right? If you’re a young 20 year old person who feels pretty competent, I might think about, I might think about it, but if you’re, if you’re orange and you got a compromising condition, never, never know. I mean, it’ll kill you, but what, what this thing does, is it hibernates in, you know, in people, you know, it goes without reproducing having a great time. Right. And it’s, I mean, that’s, that’s Exactly, but you know, it’s having a great time. We’re using our reproductive system and pushing things through and everything else. And then it eventually finds somebody who’s susceptible and who has a preexisting condition. And it goes, Wasn’t there an article that says, if you have sex, wear a mask with someone, a couple of literally that came out of England. Um, it was, yeah, but so, and so I guess that actually feeds into one of the other questions that I got in, which is okay. So Knowing what we know at least right now, and I always put that caveat on it, cause do this as science shit evolve, shit changes. We’re still learning. Um, what does quote unquote recovered from COVID-19 mean? What, what, like what, what does that mean right now? Yeah. So what it means is that you’ve gone through and so did you catch the disease and you’re diagnosed with it. What you have to have is two positive tests after 24 hour period in both your nasal and your lungs and two negative deaths, right? So there’s new, a positive. We go through the whole system, your body clears, there’s a virus out and setting it. Usually that usually takes 14 to 20 days. And at that point you’ll have tests redone and you’ll do the nasal plate. You won’t see anything you’ll do, you’ll do the long piece. You won’t see anything. You do that twice over 24 hour period, everything all clear, then your, your quote, unquote resolve. Um, I had one that come in and I know exactly who this is and why she’s asking it. Um, so it’s, uh, so how do you feel about, um, indoor sports right now? Uh, you know, things like volleyball, um, you know, things that are, you know, the, like a lot of the, the school sports are still gearing up on, even though we’re still not sure what’s going to happen with schools yet. Um, but I know like I’ve seen kids out on baseball fields and they’re all kind of like, we talked about the MLB opening Bob and don’t, you know, they’re all wearing batting gloves. They’re all wearing masks in the dugout and all that stuff. But like, how do you, like, I think indoor is, is a lot different and it’s probably your answer probably is going to make my skin curl Indoor is about 18 times more dangerous than outdoors general. And the fact that outdoor professional sports who are currently living in bubbles or are having outbreaks, you know, 40, 40 baseball players who are wearing a helmet And I’m, and I’m not going to lie. Like that’s the part that really truly amazed me about seeing kids out on the baseball field. I’m like, dude, if the professional sports teams that are spending millions of dollars on these people, can’t keep their shit safe. What are you doing? Like The NHL went up to Canada to go ahead, to reduce the viral load environment, you know, uh, you know, trying to keep yourself safe in Orlando is really challenging right now. Uh, the main soccer had an outbreak among 12 teams, uh, uh, so far. Uh, and the problem is that no, the vector is the ball, you know? So you expect something like a guy out until go around the horn. Everyone’s comfortable you’re to do, uh, you know, same thing with volleyball. You know, people are, are sweating. They’re they’re, they’re, they’re working hard. They’re uh, they’re, they’re, they’re exhaling The same thing you were saying about Jim’s when, when I, when we asked you that last time You’re facing people, right? I mean, you’re, you’re, you’re, you’re facing people. You’ve got to get close. You gotta, you know, you gotta be what you want to ground spikes. You want to hit spikes. Uh, you have to get, you have to get the sets. Right? All those things mean it will be extremely difficult if even one person on your team. Well, I, one person on the opposing team had the, to have the virus, there was a great cancer. We going to have it after the game. Yeah. Cause like my, uh, my daughter’s playing soccer. They’ve been practicing for good month, but they won’t let what they want, allow them to scrimmage. So it’s really just doing ball, handling drills, running, um, kind of light, you know, activity, but they’re not letting them play. Yeah. That that’s, that’s, that’s comparative to say, you know that that’s, that’s a good practice right now. Do we know more about [inaudible] we’re in fast? Uh, I hope in a good way that it’s maybe not as dangerous as we think right now. Uh, but it doesn’t, it there’s a great cancer. It isn’t. So how about, how about the elephant in the room? Um, the governor comes out and issues in a, um, an emergency. What’s the word emergency alert saying, you know, everybody wear masks and then here a year you have, you know, Oakland County Sheriff’s like kiss my ass, McComb County, sheriff kiss my ass Leelanau County Lake. He’s like, I am enforcing that. I found the response. Interesting. They are not going to respond to individuals that are reporting it. But if a business reports, somebody being obstinate or not wearing a mask and refusing to comply, they will respond to that. Well, that’s basic trespassing, right? If you ask them to leave, the problem is, you know, and I overheard somebody talking today, I’m saying like, Hey, my daughter is 16. She’s working at the grocery store. She’s not going to front some 40 year old house mom and say, you can’t come in. It’s not her job. Right. And it’s just not her inner psyche. So it’s like, you know, again, so now we’re seeing the common citizen, everybody, you know, they, they, they tell you something like take a picture of the person and submit it to the health department. It’s like, are we getting to that point as a society? Um, it’s like, what, what do you make? I mean, we’re all trying to do our part. We really are. And there’s a couple people that are assholes, but like, what are we supposed to do about all this? Yeah. You know, citizens arrest, you know, certainly don’t, don’t get yourself in a scuffle. Just, just avoid the person. Cause you don’t know who knows. The guy may be a black belt, TaeKwonDo expert, find yourself, no I’ll call you don’t you don’t want to have that happen. And you hurt yourself. So just, you know, I think that eventually what’s going to happen is that it’ll be cultural. You know, people will say, if you, if you go to places in California right now, um, and you don’t have your mask on, you know, it because a friend of mine forgot, you know, he said, no, I just ran out. You know, I have permission to get in. I flew in, I forgot. I’ve got my mask, my car. And like within 10 steps, he realized, Oh, there’s something wrong here. Oh, it’s me. I don’t have my basketball because everyone was scowling at him. Everyone else had masked them. And they were like, you know, I had to get my [inaudible]. I think eventually that’s gonna happen and what’s going on. So the interesting question is how long has that I’m asking him to be required. Right. And we asked, we wait, so what we did and university of Michigan, cause they actually asked people, how long do you think it will do for you feeling safe with pulpit and everywhere around the world. With the exception of poor countries, we have 20,000 people everywhere, everywhere around the world. 90% of people thought it would be six months or less. We were all going to be safe all day. Right? Holy cow. I got to get out and talk more Well. So that was actually one of the interesting things, because I’ve been talking to like the whole, one of the things that they talk about and they actually do a really good job in that Netflix show that I was talking about, uh, talking about all the different vaccines, uh, that are, that are going through trials or that are in, you know, in, in production and all that kind of stuff that they’re testing. Um, and like the, like the one that shows the most promise I guess, is coming out of Oxford. Um, because they’re basing it off the SARS vaccine that they already almost had done. And this is a close relative. And then I guess there are two others that are trying to use like technology and production methods that have never been used or tested before, but say they can get done faster. But the weird thing is, is now, especially with like all, you know, everybody’s been talking herd immunity, herd immunity, herd immunity. And so with this possibly like shortened window on antibody lifespans, like, and they’re talking about, I believe like you want to get to at least 60 to 70% of the population to have herd immunity in order to start getting there. Okay. You start doing that math. We have what, 7.8 billion people in the world with a shortened immunity window. And there has never been, that was one of the points they right there is never, ever been been on antivirus or a vaccine that’s ever been produced in such mass quantities to basically try to saturate the entire earth 60 to 70% of the population at one time within about 30 days. Cause that was, that was their, you know, supposition was that in order to really do this right, to get to herd immunity, you’re going to have to hit 60 to 70% of the global population within about a 30 day window, which means so that, you know, 60 to 70% of 7.8 billion, you need four to 5 billion doses of this stuff. And that’s the water Dave, that’ll be fluoride. It’ll be, it’s all about the contrary cells. And they swap out the five G tower modules, right. Vaccines. So, so the Germans are always very direct, right? Uh, and I thought that the most concrete statement was by the CEO of the Pfizer partner. Who’s part of our work speed pro program. Uh, it’s called vom tech. And what the CEO said is we will have a vaccine in December, right? And the Germans are pretty. I mean they’re, and that’s what the Oxford folks are saying to you. You know, they, they leave their cranes run on time. They have a schedule. They, they produce, so chances are, they’re going to have a vaccine in December. He always said in the same sentence, but we won’t control this virus for at least 10 years. So if you talk to the album is about mass squaring. 90% of them say, it’s going to be at least the next few years everyone’s gonna be wearing that. Just tell them we only have eight year term limits. Trump will be out of the office by then and it’s okay, come on. Hey, Hey, Hey, he finally wore a mask. He broke down. This can, this can not be a political issue anymore. And it was probably the neoprene one. It doesn’t fly. I sort of liked his math. That’s what I like the president to see on the side. I thought, I thought, I thought it was whatever happening thing. I, but I, but you know, he can’t, he went to Walter Reed and he wore a mask and you know, good Brent, you know that those guys are, and you don’t compromise for you. No, that’s good to see. And I know, Hey, there could be a great business in Maga mass and, and uh, uh, Yeah. You know, they’re loading up the website with them right now. Yeah. Stupid not to call them the open season line. Right. I see it. So on the vaccine side, people are starting to go to the experts. I deal with it, the viral, all of us, I do. I’ve built a lot of drugs. I deal with all of these companies. There are four big companies that are involved. Um, the rest of them are quite small startups or they’re national companies like in China and so on. And they’re, they’re wrinkly, you’re bidding on five different buyer, a vaccine, the first set of vaccines, other vaccines that we have that. So that’s the worst we’d give vaccines are five of them in process. And one of them has board of a brand because of testing. So that’s, you know, and what we’ve done in that space is we’ve said, Hey, um, we want to have a guaranteed commuter million dollars. We want a guaranteed 300 million dose. You can do whatever you want with the rest of the doses, but we want our experts. So good negotiation on a heart. Right? We said, we want our experts a little bit selfish. We said, wait a minute. You know, you know what I mean, things that people are going to be eligible for the vaccine, they’re going to get it the United States or healthcare workers in Bangladesh to get it. But people are talking about billions of doses. Um, so 300, 300 million, we’ve negotiated that with AstraZeneca was godson and Johnson with Sanofi, uh, and Madonna, right? So those are the big, big, and then there was no normal vaccine goal for those who’ve been now, then that’s the U S plan. Uh, and you came to the same thing. You just bathing on the AstraZenica Oxford, uh, program. It’s now in phase two, three clinical trials. Um, and they, uh, also said, we’ll do this, but we want to have a hundred million doses. So they supported really doses for that awkward vaccine. You’re already off to the side. That’s, that’s, that’s a set. UK only has one bet that we have five. So, you know, plus four more beyond that, then we’ve got China. China has a whole bunch of that stew, and they’re actually a little bit ahead of us. They’re actually, they’re already injecting their military with a vaccine. Um, and so they’re, you know, they’re, they’re figuring out exactly what the response is in humans already. Uh, and so they may be out on the market a little bit ahead of us. I think it will be tight, but it could be, that could be actually ahead of us. It’ll be interesting to see what they do with that kind of extra power. Right. Are we trusting what China says these days? I’m just being funny. I hear you Recording numbers and all that stuff. It’s like, it’s, you know? Yeah. So, so we actually done a survey of that and it turns out that about 60% of, of people of their neighbors do not cross with kindness. So if you ask, you know, Taiwan, they sure as hell don’t Well, you know, They’re quite worried about that, but Thailand, both places about 6% of people saying, ah, you know, I’m not, I questioned about half of Americans question what they say and only 40% of Europeans. So it’s sort of interesting that there’s a, that they’re closer neighbors don’t trust me. Uh, I actually think that on a scientific basis, they’re being pretty honest. They, they were, they were slow because they sorta wanted to contain a politically, especially with the public UConn. But now, you know what, I deal with Chinese experts. They’re, they’re there. I think I’m getting the scrapes scoop on the science side of it, but they had some weeks of very important publication building happening in Monaco, Atlantic. They got some good people, a lot of them right here. Right. Um, and then, then the last bit that is a European bet. Europeans have put aside $31 billion of, they asked him to do $1 billion or whatever it can happen in, in, in, in Europe be produced indexing and what they’ve done instead of negotiating volume, they negotiated price. So they said, we’re going to give this money to you, but the price has to be $2 and 50 cents per vaccine dose. So it’s sort of, you know, there’s sort of an interesting different negotiating strategies. And so on going on, I think we probably will have partial vaccines in the next week months, 21 months, as I said before, I think that it’s likely the problem is going to, as you said, the calendars, um, so you mentioned one area, vaccine DNA and RNA that’s those we have never successfully scaled is that we don’t have one example of a vaccine in December. The reason that the DNA that scene is interesting, just because it requires a lot lower bills. Yep. So what would they, what happens is the DNA of vaccines and RNA vaccine DNA [inaudible] electrophoresis directly really large molecule dictate the electrify by the skin in order to get the vaccine. So it’s a little bit more complicated. You can imagine trying to get that all figured out, uh, around the world, RNA vaccine, sprayed injection, and usually two doses, or, you know, there’s booster steps required, but what happens is the RNA goes in and it does what it’s supposed to do, and it creates its own proteins. And the other instances is what happens is you actually have to create proteins by attenuated the virus or killing the virus. And then even re-injecting that, that dead or attenuated virus back into you are using another viral electorate approved viral poking that caused that, that actually requires a much higher dose blood rain. So when you hear about all these talks about, Oh, we’re going to have a billion doses prepared by X day, that’s a lie. Well, and that’s, and that’s part of what they were saying. Was that like, so the, like one of the big constraints with this is, okay, so now you have competing technologies, which means you’re not going to start building or gearing up or ramping up factories to manufacture these, these vaccines until you know, which one is good or which ones so that, so once that happens, or once you get close enough to that, then they’ll start building out the factories or retrofitting the factories or doing whatever. There’s going to be a time lag there with getting that done and getting that up to code and getting that up to spec before they can even start production mass production on it. So a lot of the extra investment we’ve done, wasn’t done, it’s actually say we will pay for all that manufacturing scale up. The problem that you got is when these guys are only in phase two trial, they don’t know the size of the dose. Yet we go with grading studies, right? That’s what phase two is. It’s kind to looking at safety, looking at dose ranging. So they have no idea what size of the doses are they gonna need, or are they gonna need booster shots? Well, how about helping you? The population’s going to be there to qualify for it. So they’re making a lot of guests with themselves and the trouble is, you know, you’re dealing either with a scientist at a company, and they’re saying one thing, and you’re talking about the business, represent this relations guys on the other side, trying to kind of codify like the politicians, if you will. Exactly what, you know, it’s all been released, but that’s, what’s happening a lot. Right. Hey, Fred. Um, so this is probably gonna be the most morbid question I’m ever going to ask in my life. Um, no, but, uh, at what point does it become, like the cases are going up, deaths are going down right. At what point? I don’t want to say, is it not news? Cause you’re never going to stop death. Right. It’s physically impossible. Is it when it becomes, I’m par with flu? When we know that we have a vaccine, I guess at what point? Um, you know, because right now they’re reporting, Hey, three cases discovered in whatever city and that’s news. So it’s like, well, yeah, like, let’s look at the big picture, I guess, at what point is this like, is it considered normalized? Is it if that, if that’s even a possibility, cause yeah. I mean, you know, your normal winter, you don’t hear about the numbers of people dying from the flu during a normal flu season. Yeah. Uh, I could say one more thing about the vaccine, um, is that number a couple more things about the vaccine that are kind of important to say first coronaviruses are very difficult to vaccinate against. They have a lot, they make a lot of protein. They can pool the vaccine. They they’re wild immune responses that are false immune responses that we’re going to have to deal with. Second big thing is you have to deal with people who are over six weeks over 60, our immune systems all have all shifted quite a bit. I’m one of those people, unfortunately. And so what happens are you over 60 years, your immune system’s out of slightly out of sync vaccines help get the, these have been back instinct problem is that when you’re over 60, you have an awful lot more adverse events, side effects. And if you’re also simultaneously compromised, we would have no bad, bad adverse events, the vaccine that makes it all the more difficult. So we probably have these partial vaccines, partial and partial, um, uh, partial, uh, therapies, all coming together to work together. The answer to your question is when we get, when we start to get a sufficient backstop that the, the, the people who control the news, largely the wealthier, uh, feel that they’re safe and can go return back to normalcy. That means flying around means know doing their work and life out without really a, a big shift in that and the way they, you know, like, like, like you still get the flu today. Uh, and sadly, you know, um, like 40,000 people, 30,030 to 40,000 people die of it this year, but it’s in control and we’ve got backstops for it. And people can take flu shots or not with any what they, what they want to do and taking their own basis of risk. But it’s not, um, something that changes your lifestyle. I think when the death rate is such that, and the chances of this significant longterm health effects are such that if you get the disease it’s going to affect you and, and societal leaders, I think it’ll still be in the news at that point when it stops protecting societal leaders when it stops. Um, even if it, it remains pretty high in most developed countries. And we have a backstop that most people have access to. And now the States, I think at that point, we’ll stop stuff, move, but that’s going to be probably, you know, we’ll get more and more in you and to do it right now. No pun intended. Yeah. I just think My take has been, if you run a ticking timer on the news about car deaths and run all day cycles and every accident gets on the news, then every gets on the news. Right. And accidents too. Like people are going to be F paranoid to get in their car. You know what I mean? So like, that’s why I’m trying to figure out what, what right. Is it, you know, nor is it considered, just normalized where, you know what I mean? Cause right now the, the fear thing is just as, I mean, just as scary as the, the actual disease, you know, the actual a virus. What I, what I found personally was once, you know, um, so what happened in the United States is sort of interesting, right? We went up a curve and then we flattened out and then we, we sort of, we felt like we took off again right in that flat period. And everything was sort of calming down. It looked like ours. We are, our key values were getting down to zero and down below one and look like people were opening up successfully. I don’t know if you’ve felt it, but I don’t know if there was a lot less discussion about that. Right. We heard a lot more about China and the trade agreements. We heard a lot more about, about, about different, about different news. That’s are sort of the, the, the noise level was, it was a lot of other stuff happening that they kind of drowned out. And I saw sort of the month of June, for me, was sort of quiet, you know, with like, with like opening, it was working with like, you know, what president Trump was saying was correct with like our economy is starting back, open up again. I feel like I’m back on track. What happened really? Unfortunately, if you look at the data, was it looked like the incredible cause it went up flat and up again. Now whenever you have a great upgrade again, if you do the math and you know, You’re talking about the curve for cases, right? Exactly. Who cares if you do the math and you took out the decrease that was occurring in New York and New Jersey, you know what the curve looked like instead of like this, it looked like that. Wow. That was the news that we missed. It never
Hey, welcome. Thanks for hanging out with us. This is the it and the D show. We are broadcasting live from our homes and from the bar. Um, this is Bob, the sales guy, Dave, the geek, uh, Randy, I do the Twitters is doing the Twitters, uh, guests this week include, we got the Mikey from the old shillelagh downtown, and we got August in the house, old friend from whiskey in the jar and Hamtramck. We’re going to be talking about life behind the bar, and now that things are slowly opening up. And then also we’ve got a ton of stories going on. We’ve got his big boys gone forever. We’re running out of pennies and Dave, you may fire when ready? Wait, wait. I don’t think we can get started until I get some shredded cheese for my fajitas. Oh, good Lord. Alright, go ahead, Bob. Hey, welcome. What is going on? This is the it and the d show. Can we still call it the it in the d show, we got to rename it. And at some point, Judy, Bob did, I’ve been, I’ve been lobbying for two and a half geeks for four years now. Can you still be Dave? I don’t know. We’ll figure that out later. This is episode three 54. We are broadcasting live from either our quarantine homes or the bars in one of them in Hamtramck. This is Bob, the sales guy that is Dave. The geek Randy. I do the Twitters is doing the Twitter. You can find us online at [inaudible] dot com. Give us a like on the socials and subscribe to us everywhere. Fine podcasts are sold. We, uh, and again, we’ve talked about this before. Uh, we are, uh, Lee, we’re leaving events out, uh, until August, no pun intended. Uh, and we’ll, we’ll be bringing them back then. We’ll do something outside and yeah. So that’s, that’s the update there. So yeah. Hey, just like we just introduced earlier, we have two illustrious guests, friends of ours for very, very long time. Both of them bartenders, we kind of want to do, uh, discuss, um, what life was like a behind the bar. We, we, you know, a few of us have been to the bar, but, uh, joining us is, uh, Mikey from the old Shalala downtown Detroit, sir. How have you been, haven’t seen you in awhile? Uh, I’ve been well, man, uh, just getting used to this non quarantine stuff and living the life and working, uh, dealing with all of the wonderful public. And then now this is a, it’s actually a first for the show. We’ve been doing this for what? Seven years. We haven’t had anyone ever calling live from the bar. August gets legs in the house. I mean, we’ve, we’ve done live broadcasts from bars, but we got August in the house. He is actually tending bar right now at whiskey and a jar down in Hamtramck, sir. How you doing? You’re on mute bud August. I’m actually not working tonight, but I figured it’d be fun to come here and show you just exactly what we’re looking at These days at afar in Hamtramck. Uh, ms. Katie is pretty much by herself with a few people outside, a couple of regulars. And that’s about the state of the world down here. Yeah. So odd. I’ll start things off with you like life behind the bar. Like, so I started trickling into a few bars. I live out everyone, you know, I live on Rochester Hills, Auburn Hills, um, the bars out here pretty much business as usual. Um, a couple of them took out a couple of tables. Most of them like the open air ones in Rochester Hills are still the same. Dave was telling stories about going to, uh, with down a Cass corridor. They haven’t set up like a, like a seven mile gas station with a plastic barricades and little, little windows. So some people are taking it to huge extreme, some people aren’t, I guess what’s your take on, I guess, the new normal behind the bar? Well, it really depends on where you are. Like I went up to a bar in McComb County last week. I walked in and right walked right the hell out. Any place where you can buy beer by the bucket seems to not be following any protocols. There was no hand sanitizer around the same amount of bar stools. They might have tables. They don’t mind everyday. You come down here. Everyone’s pretty much following the rules. I walked into a place downtown, half the bar, stools, half the tables. It’s all about your local enforcement. And I understand that different areas, the city feel different political views about what’s going on, but behind the bar, it’s very bartender driven. We take the bar stools away and then by, you know, one 30 in the morning, there’s a few of them have found their way back up to the bar and just kind of deal with your friends and try to keep them, you know, the wear their masks when they’re ordering. So Katie Palona Sera is working, does not tolerate that. She’s only tolerating it because it’s me. I guess that was the, this reminds me a lot of when smoking got banned originally, there was, there was a hard line. There was not any, Oh, I’ll just lay it up. No one on mine. No, it was, it was, there was no middle. It was, it was off. Right. You’re you’re going to go outside and you’re going to smoke with this. It seems like there’s this weird yet? Depends on the bar. I was like, well, yeah. I mean, well, and let’s be real with the smoking thing. It really kind of dependent on where you were. Um, you know, a lot of the bars on the East side, you know, put the tip jar out and just said, Hey, throw some cash in. So if they come in and find us, we got it covered. Oh Jesus. Yeah. I kind of remember those days. It’s still a bar down here. It still exists. So I guess Mikey bringing you in old [inaudible] it’s one of the, uh, you know, I would say top 10 oldest bars in Detroit, at least from, from my standpoint, it’s one of the, one of the mainstays, um, I guess what’s life like behind the bar by you are obviously things are different, but like, Well, and keep in mind, Shalala closed literally right before st. Patrick’s day, which, you know what, you know, that, that kind of like bank rolls your year. Yeah. St. Patrick’s day and opening day. Yeah. That’s huge chunk for us. Um, bartenders are basically, uh, turned into cocktail servers right now. Uh, we’re taking care of all of the tables and stuff. Uh, we, it wasn’t until this weekend we allowed people to come to the bar, but there’s like, we set up four tables, uh, going long ways. So not out to the bar, just like connect to the bar. So people still can’t pass those tables to order. Um, they have to stand at one of those tables and you can congregate four or five people tops there and you have to stay at that table. And or when you’re at any other table, you have to be at those tables. We actually have a really good friends in the park, right guys, the guys that own the parking lot behind us, we’ve been dealing with the Aubrey’s for years. Like ever since, you know, my dad was working downtown and stuff. And so they are, uh, being very nice and generous and letting us finagle and see how, what works for us as far as extending our outside patio into a, the parking lot to therefore put more tables and get better business in. But it’s the same, it’s the same thing, man. People are going to do what people are going to do. And the fact that people have to be told four or five times to put their mask on when they’re walking around, uh, people have to be told that, look, I get it. There’s a DJ here, but the PJ’s here so it can provide different sounds. So we’re not just listening to Pandora, a full song. That could be a good, a good vibe going on. But So we’re not listening to Bob and Dave take over the jukebox. Yeah. But there’s still no dance. Right, right. Worse than both of us combined. True. That’s true. I get very there’s you guys look, man, I’m pretty sure the T and it stands for touched. That’s what it is. It’s it’s a MIT in the D that’s. Yeah. It’s the AMI Am. I Just wrote, Mike wrote our Alma mater Kudos to you, sir. That’s what I do. Um, but yeah, so people are like, you know, doing the dance floor thing and it’s like, the DJ literally stopped and said, Hey, move. There’s like eight feet here. And for some reason, 10 of you want to crowd into it to start dancing. When we don’t have a dance floor, he has stopped it. He put, he has put on Miley Cyrus, uh, to cause that no one dances to Miley Cyrus. Right. Um, Randy does, Randy doesn’t even do. Randy’s like, okay, wrecking ball. Got it. Got go In. The USA is not terrible. Is here. Welcome to episode three 54 beat on Randy. That’s going to be the title of visit. That’s nothing bad for him. I didn’t, I didn’t say off. I said on, I was thinking, but yeah. So people were still coming up to the bar. We had to say, get back six feet. We’re not going to serve you. We’re apparently the problem because we’re enforcing rules. Uh, you know, we have to be like, we’re not the governor. We didn’t set these rules up. We just have to follow them. Uh, you know, I, I commend what, uh, the Shalala has done. You know, even the health departments come in and said, didn’t have to tell us to move anything. They just were like, just put a couple more signs up. You know what I’m saying? So add a little bit more six feet, add a little bit more of this. Um, but it doesn’t matter what we do because the customers are just doing whatever they want to do. And it’s impacting us, which is a problem. Like not the business, but like the staff, like we stay away from. Right. Like I, yes, I’ve had COVID-19 but nobody knows specifically what happens anymore. Right. I could still get it again. There’s reports now saying that the immunities, the antibodies don’t last very long. It lasts a couple months. Well, guess what I had at st. Patrick’s day that’s two or three months, these antibodies aren’t protecting, I’m not guaranteeing, they’re protecting me from anything. I just, just help people out, man. But they don’t care. And because they don’t care, you’ve seen things like in the temple bar, in Detroit, which, I mean, they shouldn’t have been doing that anyway. A Mexican Fiesta out in Dearborn just went back down to, uh, only carry out orders because they’re like, you guys are acting like assholes to our staff. And while we’re the cleanliness of everything is a priority. Now the safety of our staff has to be a top priority. So we’re going to have to say, get away. And Mexican Fiesta is amazing. August, August. I wanted to bring in on that too. Like that’s the one thing I keep hearing is people being bundles and it’s like, yeah, I get it. You’ve been cropped up. Yeah. I get it. You’re excited about being out what it’s like, you should be so excited about coming out, like, okay, what do you need me to do to be out cool. I got it. I’m done. Like when I’ve gone out, I’ve made sure I’ve followed the, you don’t follow whatever the guidelines are, the place you’re going to. It’s not that hard friend Michelle’s still is not comfortable eating indoors or being indoors at a bar at all. We had reservations for eight o’clock on Friday, down at the Monarch to sit outside and she canceled them because it was supposed to rain and she wasn’t gonna eat it inside. I get it. Everyone has their different comfort levels. But then look at what happened in East Lansing. One clown shows up at Harper’s 62 people get sick and now 30 people and girls point all tied to the same spot. The number was 85. Yeah. Cause they all went back to a bonfire afterwards and hung out yet. Yeah. And now it just hit the news that, uh, fifth Avenue and we’re alone, three people that tested positive were in there, you know, on the 19th of June. So any surprised, So, yeah, so here’s my question. And this is actually one of the stories that I shot across for us to yak about, but I haven’t you guys here. Uh, so Imperial, uh, in Ferndale, uh, said they shut down, uh, because they got an anonymous phone call from someone, uh, that said they were in the restaurant a couple of days earlier and they were COVID positive. So like, is that the new, like one star Yelp review slash swatting where like, even if that’s not true, you call a place and say that, and you know, you’re basically shutting them down. Like you are shutting them down and forcing them to go through a deep, clean, and being a major inconvenient pain in the ass That, that joke has already run through all the sports talk radio about how these different teams are going to suddenly try to open up and play sports again. And the anonymous calls it. So and so really tested positive and they’re baking. It is going to shut down basketball or baseball or football, shut down a bar As bartenders. Are you both kicking out people who aren’t complying with rules or, Um, I have not had a problem where someone completely refused or didn’t have a mask with them. Uh, there’s always, someone will walk in off the patio without it. That guy will be like, dude. Oh, okay. And they’ll throw it back on. Uh, and I’ve not had that confrontation that I am dreading. Cause I know what’s coming next. I mean, I’m not gonna lie. I went to that’s by my house and it’s the middle of suburbia, not one person who had one on. Yeah. That’s what I noticed in McComb County, the servers and the staff had them, the customers gave them. No, no. Yeah. We’re the same way. Uh we’ve actually, we have boxes of masks. So if you don’t have a mask, when you come to the bar to come in, we’ll provide you with mat. I mean, if it’s like a group of like 10 people were eventually just be like, no, because obviously you haven’t had a mask this entire time, but we’re not, you know, if one or two people or like a dude’s mask broke while he was walking through the entrance and we gave him another mask, but it’s not so much that people are refusing to comply. It’s it’s like, again, it’s like you’re telling a five-year-old four or five times to do the exact same thing, you know? And, and that’s, and that’s the problem is I sh I’m not telling a four year, five year olds do the same thing, four or five times, I’m telling a 35 year old the same thing to do four or five times innovation. You gotta realize that it’s not just about you and your, this business could be, could take a, hit. The staff could take a hit. I mean, and look, the first weekend I was back, people were assholes and I’m talking about money-wise like, which is crazy to me. But the second and third week that I was back, people were amazing. Right. They shouldn’t have been loaded when they came back, man. Like you would think so. Right. But again, let’s not pretend like everyone’s gotten their unemployment check. So, you know, it’s, it’s, it’s a weird dynamic. I appreciate I’m the same way I was his girlfriend, same thing, same way. I don’t feel comfortable going out that much. Uh, I’ve gone, uh, eaten in downtown Royal Oak and I sat on a patio. Uh, I’ve walked around a couple places, you know, and that’s, that’s about it, man. Like I haven’t even, I went out the first night the bars were, uh, the Shalala was open and I really only went out to look and see what I was walking into on a scouting run. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I was like, then a friend was like, Hey, I’m down, down at pappies we’re sitting on the patio, come on out. And I was like, well, if you’re on the petty, you know, and, and, and that’s what it is. There’s a comfort level to everyone. And just because you, uh, your source of information tells you that whatever you’re doing is not necessary, that’s fine. And I’m not saying that you’re wrong for that. What I’m saying is you’re wrong for selling someone or making someone else feel like their source of information is wrong. So they have to follow your way. And I w what’s the worst that can happen. That you, when you wear a mask, do you find out you were right anyway, but you wore masking, made someone else feel comfortable. What’s the best that can happen. You find out you’re wrong and you help protect people. Correct? You were, you were mildly inconvenienced for a review, Right, man. And I’ve said it from the beginning to the end of this thing, when it was announced that in stores, private businesses have a no shirt, no shoes, no service, all of them. Now they’re saying no, no mass, no service. That’s not taken away. Your rights, man, that business has all the right in the world to tell you, you can’t be a Patriot. If you don’t wear a mask, get over it. So many people don’t realize that these are private businesses. They are not mandated to serve you under any circumstances. Like, I don’t know how that slipped by a lot of people. Um, I guess I’ll open up the floor to both of you guys, but I got a curious thing, like, let’s say this whole thing, poops the bed and it shuts down again. Um, how many of these bars can survive this thing? Because I know a lot of them run shoe strings right now. A lot of them are hanging on by the, you know, think other landlords aren’t being dicks type of scenarios. But I mean, if this thing shuts down again for like three months, how many of these restaurants and bars are, or actually going to be able to come back and whether this There’s plenty of ours, I’m going to jump real quick. And they just said, we’re not going to deal with here. Couple of the customers coming from the patio. So they’re ordering right now behind me, but Susie’s bar. They don’t have any staff that’ll work and they just take it off their loans and a ride it out. And I expect to see, I think we’re going to shut down again. I think we’re going to take one more hit for like two weeks. Yes. Yeah. I’m going to say I’m in the same boat. I honestly think that, uh, our governor without playing politics, I think our governor has done well. Perfect. Hell no. Has she done things to play politics and maybe get a VP? Not sure, but that’s her job. My job as a bartender is to work you, to get the best tip out of you, right? Anyone who does their job correctly knows ways to make it so they can make better money for anything else. That’s what you have to do in your job. I know I have to do, I have to tell Karen, she’s a great book, great person, right? Because I know Karen will finally give me 15% finally. Right. But Karen’s a piece of crap, but I can make her feel like she’s amazing. So the bottom line is I feel that they are, the government has, the governor has done well, not perfect. Well, and There was no way, Mikey. There’s no way you were going to ever make everyone happy. Okay? Exactly. This is in Madison. Which way you went. This is the unknown, right? I am not, I can’t be mad at you for doing, taking extremes when you didn’t know what was coming. So my thought process on this is just like August. I think every, I think it’s going to shut down for two weeks, but I’m hoping she does slap on the wrist style. We’re going to pull back bars, any place. That’s just mainly alcohol. We’re going to shut them down for two weeks and keep restaurants at 50% capacity. We’ll see what it looks like. Because I feel if she goes hard as tries to do extreme again, then she might start losing some of her base supporters. So I think she’s gonna take the EAs way. So the season we’re in it’s summertime, this was a little bit easier to pull off when it was still cold out, you know, February, March. I mean, that was doable. If she was a half to try to start to shut it down now in a place like Michigan, like Texas people are hiding inside. Anyways, there’s 110 degrees outside, Florida. This is our outside season. It’s gonna be really tough, especially if she does it statewide and not by zones again. Cause you know, a whole bunch of people are going to be flooding saga top and plugging Trevor city and flooding Mackinaw city and Marquette drink. If she does it, there’s no easy right way to do it. Right. It has to be, you know, state the state region, the region, there are flooding up North. They flood up North as it is. I mean, I’m not even sure about regions Right on 75, try to come a Sunday, six, o’clock go look at 75 coming back home. Yeah. It’s people who live there. They have their houses. They’re not the renters and the hotel people. Cause I know folks that are, they can get a room at saga talk with 24 hours notice right now that’s insane for July and Jimmy Vegas pricing. They’re pretty much given rooms away for a dollar just to get your ass down here. Yeah. But what’s it going to go on to Saugatuck if you’re not on the beach and the bar isn’t open. Yeah, no doubt. Exactly. Well, and that’s, you know, I, I was talking with Fred earlier today, Fred Brown. He shot me like his latest PowerPoint deck and all that stuff. And, and he, he kind of lines up with what you were just saying that, I mean, the reality is like this Harper story is pretty much the tip of the iceberg. We’re going to see a lot of bad news hit over the next two weeks. Um, now here’s, let me, let me ask you a question. I don’t know if you know Dave or if the guys know like how do they know that? Cause it takes like what two weeks to get tested, right. Or to test positive for it. How do they know that, uh, that all emanated from a single bar? Like to me, I read that. How did that, you set a protocol questions, you have to answer For people who test positive, they trace you and everywhere you’ve been and everything you’ve been doing, it’s it’s a thing. Yeah. So like, so, so it was that it was basically one guy who already was sick and wasn’t feeling well. And the day after all this nonsense went and got himself checked out into it. Oh yep. COVID where were you? Um, and then contact Tracy Chino trace back, started taking a look at those people. Yup. And it, you know, and it’s funny, the, the w the one, like really kind of concerning stat that, that Fred throughout, when we react, when we were chatting earlier was of, they did, they just did some like anonymous statistics and 75% of people that went to a hospital or an ER, or an urgent care for non COVID things. Like they went because they fell and broke their arm, or they had a gunshot wound and went to the ER, that kind of stuff, 75% of the people that were checked in tested positive for COVID. Um, and so like, so that’s that hidden asymptomatic population yet again, the reason why you should be wearing your damn mask, even if you, you know, even if you think you feel fine, Right? Yeah. That’s it just put your mask on me, whether everything was right or not. Sorry, just again, same thing I was gonna say earlier, like what you believe or not give a shit about other people, that’s all it is. Who cares? Just be nice. Yeah. I was one of the lucky ones that got to go through the secretary of state. Um, and that was a, yeah, I know. There’s like somewhat outside. They don’t really ask you if you have symptoms, they just ask you what your name is. Like. I was kind of shocked that they would not have like the, the temperature gun. Cause that is not very hard to do. Um, they just really go, what’s your name? Cool. Like you had a mask on, they let you in, and then you left. It was like, it was, it was kind of bizarre. Actually. They didn’t have more precautions in place The problem with the temperature gun. And this is because I think I talked about this on one of their shows either last week or the week before is they’re not very accurate. Um, you know, it’s, it’s, it’s almost kind of like the facial recognition system software, where if you’re white, uh, you, you tend to like, it, it tends to be pretty accurate. Um, but anybody, any people of color, it, it tends to be a lot further. Yeah. I never heard that before. That’s crazy. Well, I mean, it it’s just a thing. Um, and so it’s, you know, it, it, it, it can be, and you know, and the thing, you know, you may be asymptomatic and not have a fever. You might have a fever because you have a cold, you might have a fever, you know, for a number of reasons, not related to COVID. So, I mean, it’s, you know, but it’s a, it’s a PR move more than anything else to at least take that step. All I know is there’s somebody at Amazon right now, wondering why there’s a run on a, do not enter pool. If you have diarrhea signs. Cause we put one at our community pool and it’s caused an absolute uproar. No one realizes that like every water park in America has a don’t enter the water park if you have diarrhea signs. So she put them up at the bar, the questionnaire at city hall every day. And I always checked off, but I had just for fun, you know, the, the thermometers, you shoot the infrared guns. Good to know, you know what the, you know, what the difference is. Right. You know what the differences August the taste, the taste. Yeah. Nice. And that like, like the ones I picked up for the studios, they actually have different settings. Like you can, you can tell it, you’re taking a, um, a skin temp, a zone temp or room temp. Uh, you know, like, so I mean, it’s, they’re decent, but I mean, you know, the, like the more I looked into them, like I said, I mean, it’s, they’re only so accurate and only for so many different scenarios. So You guys know if you guys noticed an uptick, I don’t know if you guys monitor your Yelp pages or whatever. Have you noticed any people leaving like shit reviews? Cause they made us, we’re a mess bar. Like what have you guys noticed an uptick in those? I haven’t even looked. I mean, I’ve, I’ve seen them. I’ve seen people calling them out on Facebook. Like a lot of Facebook, like people like, and people are calling out people that are leaving those reviews. That’s what I’ve seen is, you know, screw you for leaving the, you know, for leaving them a negative review because they said you had to wear a mask and that kind of stuff. Here’s the thing. I’m like, I’m as you know, like, I don’t wanna say noncompliant, but I’m about as is like leave me alone type of person who is government wise. But when I go to the, if you go to the grocery store, I couldn’t imagine if someone told me in their business, like put a mask on and I’ll be like, Oh my God, I’m so sorry. Like that would be my first inclination not be like, screw you. I hate videos. And this just blowing my mind. How people can think like that what’s that August give us a decent human being. Believe it or not. Yeah. No, but like, would you, I couldn’t imagine like, yeah, like getting yelling at anyone in like in, if it’s their house, like, which is, I consider any businesses that are house, you got house rules. Take my shoes off at the door. Sure. Okay. I’ll take my shoes off at the door. Yeah, No, don’t worry about it. You know, like, Oh, through your house, I’m going to have barbecue down the street. FYC. I’ll go out and find, I’ll go have diarrhea in somebody else’s pool. Just don’t have it at whiskey in the jar, man. I had to grow up either. Once it was a worst day of my life. They’re really, really clean and sterile now though. Oh, I bet we’re spending that time at the bar in Monroe you’re ever going to do in Hamtramck is whiskey right now. I was like, yeah, it can’t be any worse than that. Dive bar in Monroe, Bob. It can’t, it can’t Now what’s the percentage. The percentage like, w I know you guys always kept a clean bar, both of you, but like, what’s the percentage now that you have to clean versus what is it? Double, triple what you had to do in the past, as far as wiping things down, it’s a lot more, as far as picking up garbage, significantly less because less crowded. Well, yeah, Most people aren’t throwing their stuff around. Yeah. And it’s the exact same way. Just being cognizant of their surroundings type of things. Right. Instead of wiping down the shelving under the pier bottle, under the liquor bottles and everything a couple of times a week now you’re doing it every shift. But granted, the way they’re working for us is we’re only open Friday and Saturday and they have a, they have a Sasha Friday and a staff for Saturday. So even though that we’re dealing with all of this, we can still get the underemployment because we’re not working. The hours are making the money that we did. So we can still claim the underemployment to get that extra 600 a week. That’s how they’re working it out for us, which I think is amazing. That’s great for you guys. Now, what about a draft beer? You guys just doing plastic cups? Are people shying away from it? Plastic cups. That’s all we offer all plastic plastic. We basically, every day is st. Patrick safer everything plastic. Right? Well, it’s, I mean, and that’s the thing. I mean, like, I guess how is, how is the general tone of the businesses now without the big parties, without the big events, without that kind of stuff going on? Like, is, is it, you know, Hey, we’re all we’re going to just see how this goes and roll with it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there’s nothing else to do. We know we didn’t have our big fundraiser in March. We don’t see the August date for the bag of guy party as viable. We just don’t see one that’s going to work. And you miss you guys, ms. Pouncy day, you guys missed Punchy day was the last big event that I, yeah, that was the last one. Yeah. With your wife, Bob. Yeah, that was, yeah. That was really like the only big thing of 2020 that actually went well. Yeah. Cause you figured out, cause I remember the tigers opening day. I remember tigers opening day paying off people’s bars. I bought places downtown, like back in the day, like talking about that. Yeah. And like, I remember Shalala, I think Mike, you were telling me, well, that one day is kind of the year. Yeah. St Pat’s and opening day, man. They take care of us. I’m wondering what their, if it actually happens, uh, in less than a month, what it’s going to be like, cause obviously they can’t have fans, but that’s not going to stop people from coming down and tailgating like they do. But again, if everything’s still in the restrictive state, what’s, you know what I’m saying? It changes a lot of things. So other than, uh, I mean, other than the obvious where I’m asking you to come in, um, tip, well, um, you know, don’t, uh, don’t, you know, group dance. What, uh, any other recommendations, things that no one’s thought about, you know, tips, tricks. We keep hand sanitizer all over the place, but we do appreciate what people have their own. It’s a visual for kind of everybody to feel a little bit better. I carried some with me everywhere. I’m going. I get it. Um, other than that, I mean, people have been over tipping on my shifts. I’ve been fortunate. Uh, thank you, Dave. Um, I try to make sure I have all my own stuff specifically. So my girlfriend and let me come back over because it shows that I’m being responsible and I need to, and I want to support the bars right here in my neighborhood that are three blocks from my house and only have six people in them, which is easy to feel safe in and easy to control your surroundings. But that’s not what everybody else is doing. You never know. So take care of yourself and just assume the bar isn’t, even though we are Well, that’s the thing like with my neighborhood bar. Yeah. It was all neighbors, but I haven’t, I don’t know what they’ve been doing all spring right at their plate. You know what I mean? Cause like, yeah, it was like a reunion. I, Hey, you know, and then the hardest part was I had to go to a funeral this weekend where everybody’s, everybody’s hugging everyone And that was, it was, you know, I kind of threw all the rules out and we’re kind of holding our breath now going, Oh, you know, I’m sure we all will be okay. You know what I’m saying? Yeah. We’re the same way, man. Uh, just, you know where your mask, when you come in, if you have your own stuff, that’s fine. And that’s great. You know, we really appreciate it. Cause obviously we’re, we’re spending all the money to make sure that we can be open under the guidelines for what we have to deal with, you know? And that’s like, I don’t under, I just wish that people would just come in with a better attitude. Like thank you for being open rather than finally you’re open. I can do what I want here. No that’s going to happen where you’re at. And you’ve got a much more transient non-regular crowd than I do. And it’s a different world and you know what, let me be very honest. It’s 10 30 beyond PM. As soon as 10:30 PM hits until 2:00 AM. You know, that’s when the majority of the crap starts everyone in the earlier Wait, cause everybody’s had a few drinks. They’re a little more, a little loosened up a little more forgetful. A little more. Yeah. Yeah. So that’s, and it sucks, but you know, just don’t make it seem like I’m the bad guy for having to ask you to do what I have to ask you to do, you know, it’s like, everyone’s the drunk girl who wants to take her shoe, their shoes off right now. You dirty bastard. Stop anyone Shoes off anywhere. How about that? I’m not going to stop them. Yeah. I’m sure you wouldn’t. Yeah. Alright. Well, so yeah, there you go. Yeah. Take your shirt. I’ve used it as a mask. Perfect. Um, alright, so, Hey, I guess we’ll let you guys get back to it. So where do we find you when you’re not at whiskey in the, we’ll get a jar. I’m the Hamtramck city clerk underwater buried in absentee ballots right now. Um, but I’m not actually back behind the bar for two weeks. Mike and I are split it up Mikey Smith, who I work with and take the July off. And uh, but I’m here at Hampton whiskey Hamtramck and at city hall. And you need me? Yeah. For what it’s worth. Uh, Michelle just joined the watch party. If you wanted to refer to her as your girlfriend again, to get some brownie points and then Mikey, where do we, where do we find you, Man, if you don’t find me on Saturdays right now, the old shalala.com and you’re a fan of professional wrestling, you can check me on a breaking down the ring podcast, breaking down the ring.com at BDR cast for all of our social media. As you can check us, check me out there every Sunday at 11:00 AM. I haven’t been in a guest in a long time. Like you what’s going on. Hey man, we haven’t had a single person in studio in a long time, either. Good point. I can, I can shoot you the zoom link. If you, anytime you want to join. I mean, I’m not going to play that game. Do you know where to find me? I do. All right. Well cool. Thanks guys. Enjoy the rest of your night. We’re going to hang and bullshit about some other stuff. Hey, thanks for having us guys. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Appreciate it guys. Do you guys be good? Um, I need to start off with it with the thing that’s that’s ruined my entire day. Oh, good Lord. That I’ve been I’ve literally had to, um, share it with everyone I’ve ever known. It’s um, this video. Oh the, the, the golfer, This was, that was live on PGA TV guy rips a huge three or three wood and then cuts a sheet ripper for about 10 seconds. And then they comment about it. The one guy, and then, then this is the best part. The guy gets on TMZ and all this stuff. He starts making fart jokes, talking about that’s the way to social distance. If you’re going to fart on national TV, like that’s how you own it. Like this guy, like literally everyone today at every meeting I ever like, did you hear about the golf guy that farted? And they’re like, what are you like, literally you gotta be the dumbest person. So like literally I’ve been playing this thing. Then the one guy he’s like, aren’t they supposed to be more silent than that. It’s just a beautiful, and then the guy goes, did you get that? He’s like the other guy go stay over there. And he goes, aren’t those supposed to be more silent? So like the guys are walking down the fairway anyway, commenting on. Anyway. Um, I had to, I had to share that cause that’s been my entire day today. Um, I guess my like the stunning news and information for the day, there’s a coin shortage. I don’t know what’s going on. Like apparently everyone’s been saying, um, the, the self checkout lines at Myra have gone cashless. Um there’s yeah. There’s there’s basically, um, I don’t know. How do you get a coin shortage? Did I, that I saw a couple of posts from like, you know, stores on Facebook that really, I saw one from a seven 11. That was like, Hey, you bring us rolled coins and we’ll give you not only the cash back, but you can get a free Slurpee. Like apparently like they’re like, they’re that desperate to get coins, like, which is weird. The announcement never came out. The banks never came out. Usually like there’s something like that you would think would be prefaced over the next course of the next three months, by the way we are bubble, blah. Um, you know, and they’re calling it a national coin shortage. So it was like, you know, the conspiracy peoples, the tinfoil hats are lightning. Oh goodness. I can’t even imagine. Yeah. Although they want to make us cashless, you know, however, you know, I don’t think like, hang on whatever, right, Dude, I’ve been in favor. At least I have been in favor of abolish the penny since the nineties. Like I just like, I’m all in favor of that. Like that they make no sense to me. Yeah. Um, who carries them? No one cares. Here’s the thing. No one carries them around. No one uses them as tender. They are just, they’re basically little kids banks that sit there for 30 years. Then they cash them out for $14 when they turn 20 Or 21 when they’re looking for beer money. Yeah. Right. But yeah. No, I didn’t, I didn’t realize that was such a thing, but yeah, there were stories about Meyer. I’m going completely cashless. They were, you know, cause he had, they had to, um, they couldn’t dispense coins or like some places were saying like even cashiers are just rounding stuff up or rounding stuff down to make it to the nearest dollar. You see? I always like, you know, when you learned about like cash and coin circulation, it’s like, they always, um, when they go to the bank, they think the old money they shred it, then they put a new money where there’s always like this constant flow. And, but no one ever said like the, like during all this COBIT stuff where the mince closed, like where they still lose production. Well, I guess a, it wouldn’t surprise me if they had to shut the mins down. Uh, just because, I mean like everything else, they had their own issues. Um, but I mean, I guess it might be just a matter of it disrupted the natural supply chain. I mean, just like, you know, grocery stores have a hard time getting ahold of things. If people aren’t coming into the stores and using change and then using, you know, they’re, they’re not, you know, and banks were shut down and not, I mean it, I can see why it’s an issue. It’s just, I guess it’s just something, it’s one of those things I never thought about. Yeah. People aren’t using them. So there aren’t them having them at stores to give back. I mean, you think about it. I mean, you know, like, you know, they weren’t taking returnables for the longest time I wear all those, like Coinstar machine shut down. I, you know, cause I would assume that would be one of the places where they were getting their change in coinage and all that kind of stuff. Oh, I just know they’re in the stores. I can’t tell you the last time I went to one Last time I used one, I got an Amazon gift card. So that was yeah. Cause it’s so charged. Yeah. Oh it’s only change only a charge if you get cash back out of it. So what have you guys been watching this week? I, uh, I caught a pretty sweet movie last night. I was, uh, I never heard of it and I was like shocked. It was, you never heard, you never heard of this one? Well, no, no, no. The movie though, I’m talking about dr. Sleep. Like you, you never saw the ads for it or anything. I never saw a thing. I didn’t know what existed. So I’m watching this movie and the little boys got this, like seventies bolt cut. I’m paying no mind. And he’s talking to this, the black guy that looks like the guy from the shining Hong Kong phooey guy. And then he’s talking to his mom, Shelly Duvall. And I’m like, what? In the blue health shining movie is this like Google it it’s the SQL Bob. Yeah. The book’s been out for awhile. That was the movie. Yeah. I honestly had no idea. This thing existed. I just like, Oh, I read the preview and it didn’t say anything. It said the shine, but it didn’t say anything about the shining site. I thought it was something different. What did you watch it on HBO last night? Oh, you know, um, I thought it was great by the way, they did a great job with it. The shining is, um, one of the weirdest movies in the history of humanity, uh, mr. Kubrick, um, this thing like didn’t explain it kind of explained what all the, what the kids’ premonitions were in the first one. And then I gave a good background to it. I dunno. Um, again, the OB one thing is kind of a said, what did he say? The same line is star Wars. And it threw me off for a half an hour. He’s like something like, Oh, that’s these, aren’t the droids you’re looking for say that it can only mean one thing invasion. He did like a Obi wan Kenobi line in this movie that completely threw me off. Like, I don’t know if they snuck that in there or, or what, but yeah, no great flick. I would highly recommend it. I watched a Padma Lakshmi’s taste the nation. It’s a series on Hulu. I saw it. Yeah. I saw that was there. I added it to my watch list. I haven’t, I haven’t started watching it. Episode is like a different immigrant group and their, um, their impact on food in America. Uh, or they did one with, uh, native American cultures because you know, they’re also cultures, but they’re here and not an immigrant group. So, and that actually, that’s, that’s a funny tie in. So I’ll also on Hulu. I’ve been obsessed with hate die neighbor, um, which is, uh, it’s a stent, there’s two seasons of it. So far, it’s a standup comic from London, uh, who basically goes mostly all around the United States, but he also goes to like London, um, and the Ukraine and a couple other places and hangs out with hate groups, uh, for a week or two and he’s biracial, he’s half white, half black. Uh, and, and, and so like, but it’s funny because as he’s arguing with these white supremacists or, you know, whoever else he’s like, you know, if it weren’t for immigrants, the food here Would really suck. Just so you know, like at some point in time during each episode that comes up. But it’s interesting because like he, like, so he goes to like, he hangs out with like honest to God Nazis. Uh, he hangs out with white supremacists. He hangs out with, uh, the EDL in London, which is trying to kick all of the Muslims out of England. Um, he hangs out with, uh, as the Azov folks in Ukraine, um, he hangs out with, uh, the black Israelites, uh, that are like way, way, way black supremacists. Um, it’s I mean, and it’s, it’s just a, it’s fascinating that there are that many different hate groups out there that he, and he goes all over. And so like, like in one episode he starts hanging out with this one, um, uh, what do they call a national socialist it’s it’s not Nazi their, their national socialism. Um, and he hangs out with this one guy in Pennsylvania, um, who then says, Hey, but I can arrange an invite for you to this thing down in, uh, Kentucky or Mississippi. And so he goes down and so like the guy in Pennsylvania, and it sounds stupid. Like he, like, he just hates Jews. Like he Only hates Jewish people and he’s not really overt about it. Um, he, he, he just hates Jewish people, but then he refers him down to these guys down in Mississippi and they’re straight up Nazis. Like it’s, it’s a swastika burning thing that they call the lightning. Uh it’s, you know, they’re all wearing armbands with sweat, like, and it’s like, it, it’s just, it’s insane and intense and you don’t do it. It’s very real. It’s, it’s very, very, um, it is. And like I said, it’s, it’s interesting because there are some people that he makes some headway with and there are some people cause like, and, and so the last, like couple minutes of every episode is him sitting down with them after and going, okay, look, this is why I think you’re full of shit. Um, or, you know, here’s where, you know, here’s why I think, you know, whatever. Uh, and it’s, it’s interesting, like, cause I guess, you know, he, you know, the guys in Mississippi, he was just like, you guys are just straight up assholes. Like it is what it is. And they’re like, and he’s sitting in the car and he’s talking with this guy and that the original guy back in Pennsylvania and, and they, and they had actually gotten to be like kind of friends. And the guy had told him that he like that like the, the lady he was with that had all of his little like socialists spawn with, um, was his second wife and his first wife was Indian and they had two kids. And so he starts like, and so the, the comics starts making, you know, starts questioning him on well, don’t you realize that you’re basically espousing a group that hates your children because they’re, and he was and like, and that like really, like, it’s almost like the first time the guy ever heard that before or thought of that before. Um, and so, I mean, it’s, like I said, it’s, it’s Testing to see It’s American history, X the series, basically. But like, but like I said, you know, but some of the international flavor is really interesting. Like the, I just watched one where he to, um, he went to pride in Israel, uh, but hung out with, uh, the guy who is the most like, like basically leads a little terrorist group against gay people, um, in Israel. Uh, and, and, and it’s funny because like he bounces back and forth, like, so we would hang out with that guy for awhile. And like at one point he’s hanging with them at the end, cause like, he goes with them, like when they go to do their demonstrations and that kind of stuff. Um, and then like, like he does like the cutaway to the camera and he’s like, look, I know I’m doing this for like the show and everything. Um, and he’s like, Hey, thanks Mike. Cause it’s a, it’s a vice series. He’s like, Hey, thanks, vice we’re paying for the trip and everything. Um, but I’m going to go hang with the pride crew cause they’re having a lot more fun and then like the camera crew would follow with them for awhile and he would, and so that’s the thing, like he gets there, he it’s like the, you know, the victims or the targets view on things as well. And it’s just, it’s, it’s fascinating. Like it really is just an interesting show to get, to see that mindset and see that there are so many different people out there with so many different kinds of hatred in their heart, The old, uh, the old standup comedy thing, because those people, but you should have sit in their basements until the internet was created and they found the others and then they made groups, you know, they used to just sit in their basements and just rocking back and forth. Yep. I hate whatever. Now They found others now they found each other and, and they’ve, they’ve they? Yeah. They’ve borked. Um, and they procreate. Yeah. So yeah. So that’s, that’s, that’s, that’s been my, my newest obsession. Um, yeah. I’ve been watching the hell out of that just because it is, it is. I mean, it’s, to me that, like, that kind of stuff is just utterly fascinating to see the, the rationalizations and like, especially like the guys in England, the EDL, like, like th the one guy he followed around just calls everyone patties. Cause it like, it’s like, I guess that’s the derogatory term, like, cause, cause they’re not all from Pakistan, but if you like, it’s just, you know, Paki, like that’s, that’s, that’s the word for them. Um, and you know, making this guy and like at the end of the episode, when he does his little like, okay, here’s what I really think. Like the guy tried to fight him. Like it’s like so apparent, like the vast majority of the EDL are like their soccer hooligans. Um, and, and so like this guy was like taking a shirt off, trying to get through the producers, Adam, the cops were like, so, I mean, it’s, it’s just it’s I mean, it is, but it is. I, like I said, I highly recommend it. It’s called a hate, my neighbor. Um, it’s it’s just an it’s it’s an educational watch if nothing else, By the way, have you seen that? Well, how the internet is going crazy today? Um, from it’s it’s apolitical, but the, with the protest in st. Louis that went through the rich neighborhood. Oh, Karen and Ken. Yeah. Karen and Ken. Yeah. The funny thing is it doesn’t matter. Like I follow pretty much every political group, libertarian, Republican Democrat, and everyone is like, just literally destroying, like, this is like the, one of the, one of the funniest, absolute things. It’s like, there’s, there’s an old expression that says the internet has one star every day. Your goal is to not be that person Was all the concern, all this stuff that I was watching, like from the rights or like the libertarian point, it was like, yeah, you kind of have a right to defend your property, but your brandishing and you have no trigger discipline. You’re an asshole. So it’s like, and then the left is like yours, Stupid. Like, yeah. You’re, you’re, you’re you you’re brandishing weapons that people that are just walking by your house, they’re not even, they wasn’t no favors with anyone like, Oh, in the end, the best part is apparently they’re both lawyers, um, and have their own firm. And so their Facebook page just got destroyed to the point where they turned off reviews and recommendations. And so people just dove in on whatever and started commenting on whatever posts that they had. And it’s just, it is, did I, like I had tears streaming down my face while I was reading some of this crap. Cause did like the internet, the internet takes no prisoners. It’s it’s just, it’s amazing. The means came out immediately. Like I’m talking like good meme. Oh yeah. Like dude, like full Full-blown movie posters with those two. And it was, it was just, it’s outstanding. The Halloween costumes steal this look, it’s like Brooks brothers, cotton performance polo, $89, 50 cents Soho fit, chinos, oatmeal color, $128. I do. 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They were there on the evening of June 19th. Is Remy still bartending there? No, no. He’s been gone from there for a while. So that’s what? 10 days ago. Yeah. Yeah. So what do you guys think about the, um, do you guys think the dream cruise is actually going to be canceled? Well, I think so all of that, none of the public events will happen. Like that’s that’s for damn sure. Um, and, and my like, dude, you can’t stop people from getting in their car and going and driving like you can’t. Um, but you can, you can stop all of the crowds and you can stop. You can stop, you can stop all of the parking lot hangout, stuff like that, you know, but as far as the cruise itself will likely still happen, but none of the other stuff will. Yeah. What I would have read, not saying I’d rather have that announcement. I’m saying like biker is like, Hey, listen, if you’re going to do the cruise, stay in your car, do not park, do not congregate. You know what I mean? At least set up. Maybe we’re past all that with setting up guidelines cause people aren’t gonna effing follow them. Anyway. You know, I would have that saying, instead of just saying it’s outright canceled, just saying, Hey, the official event, isn’t going to be what it is. Um, if you guys want to take your, you know, if you want to take a lap and show up your cars, please, you know, I dunno, Here’s the issue with that? Like isn’t like there, like I would assume there is a, an organization or several organizations that are behind that. And so if it moved forward, officially there would be liability. And Does it not own it? The North American auto, I don’t, I don’t care who owns it, who, whoever owns it, there would be an enormous liability issue if that were to go forward. And it came out that that was a hot spot. And you know, there was, you know, a super spreader event. Um, I’m, I’m sure, you know, there’ll be lawsuits out the wazoo, uh, cause this is America. It’s what we do. Yeah. By the way, speaking of America, America’s all about dumb arguments. I want you guys to settle something for me, we’ve all had the argument is hotdog. A sandwich is tofu food. Um, but this one, this one happened this week. Tofu is not food. Right? Exactly. Um, this one happened this weekend, so we’re at the, you know, they open up the neighborhood pool and one of the neighbors, No, Bob, no, you should not go in the pool with diarrhea. Was that, was that okay? Was that okay? I got diarrhea. So when I go swimming now, that was not very well. The argument was, um, so I ordered a pizza places delivered to the pool that been there long enough where they kind of know us address and say the pool. Um, basically, so then I order a deep dish around or deep dish with me around with veggies and cheese bread. Right. Okay. And the one kid doesn’t want to eat. He’s like, I just want a pizza with no sauce. And I go cheese bread. I go to that’s the first thing I said, I go, I got cheese bread. He goes, no, it’s good. It doesn’t, it’s not the same. And I go bread. Jeez, no sauce. And he goes, well, they got spices on it. And I go open it up. I go, I don’t see any spices Skippy. And he goes, there’s Parmesan on it. I’m like, bro, what do you think they put on pizza? It’s like, I’m sitting here and he goes, Hey. And then everyone starts piling on me going. He likes what he likes. Let them be. I’m like, no, no, somebody, somebody needs to teach This kid. Cause obviously his parents are failing him. Somebody has to step in. I was in my house. It would be like, fine donate. I give a shit like, go get this, go get the salami out of there, out of the drawer, if you want to eat tonight. Um, but then someone else brought it up. They go, Hey, he has a meeting. I go, no, he wants pizza without the sauce. And they go, yeah, cheeseburger, cheeseburger, all this time. I go, what am I? What have I been missing? Um, but anyway, that was the, uh, the dumb argument. And uh, you know, then the other dumb argument is okay, like last week we talked about, um, you know, anti-Obama and uncle Ben and they’re kind of, you know, at what point, like, is it stop becoming admirable and stop and start being ridiculous because right now we’re hearing, they’re starting. It’s starting to, I don’t, maybe you, you tell me if, uh, see, I didn’t know who voiced Cleveland on family guy, but apparently he’s white and he stepped down. I’m saying he didn’t want to voice. You know? So then all of a sudden the internet goes, The girl that the girl that voices, uh, Missy on, uh, on big mouth has stepped down now. Oh my really? But then like, you know, then all of a sudden, now everyone starts piling on being okay, the Simpsons are yellow and Seth McFarland voices, a dog is going to come out to make him step down. Right. Yeah. Is, is Joe on family guy only going to be able to be voiced by a paraplegic now? Well, no. And here, and here’s my thing like, and this is why, like, I kind of understood the blow back against Scarlet Johansson, um, over ghost in the machine. Cause that was, you know, an Asian character. She is not an Asian actress. Like, okay, fine. You know, but like we’re not talking about like Scarlet Johanson playing like Harriet Tubman in the movie. Like we’re talking about voice actors here. And to me, especially like, so an actor’s job at the end of the day is to make you not remember who they are because they were supposed to be playing a character that is even more true in my head when it comes to voice actors, because you don’t see them, you don’t know who they are. And to me, like when, cause, and I started having this conversation yesterday with a few people, then I just had to stop. Um, but like, so to me, if you’re saying that a person of color must be voiced by that person of color, that is almost taking a step that says, okay, well, black people only like black people sound a certain way. Asian people sound a certain way, you know? And, and so is isn’t that right? So like, I, I don’t, I really don’t know that I agree with this one at all. And, and, and, and while the blow back about that was happening, there was the other flare up, uh, that I started getting into with people about, uh, with last night, there was an incident with protesters down in DC, down in Detroit, um, where they were leaving a protest and a cop car with its lights and sirens on, uh, people basically swarmed around the cop car. Uh, apparently their back window was broken and the cop just drove the SUV through the people. Um, and, and people were jumping up on, they were not, they did not get hit and thrown up on the hood. They jumped up on the hood of the car. Uh, and so like, and I was like, okay, look like unpopular opinion. But here’s where I started having a problem with protests and protesters. Because at that point you are not peacefully protesting. You are not, you know, you’re not, you’re not doing anything. You are, you are a interfering with traffic, be interfering with a police vehicle with its lights and sirens on that for all, you know, is trying to get to a gunshot victim or a far more serious set of circumstances, um, than dealing with you walking down the street, trying to get back to your cars. Cause I believe that’s all it was at that point. Um, and, and that’s like, that’s how you get a black eye on, on your entire movement is by trying to pull shit like that. And so, you know, kind of like this, like I do. So kind of the same thing. I, I think that, I think the voice acting thing is going a little bit too far. And I think like that is like, cause we were like, Oh, this is outrageous that this happened. I’m like, no, you, they, they were trying to start shit. And they got shit that like, that they were Then the media didn’t do any favors by seeing the cop car plowed through them. Cause I watched it from eight different angles. Yeah. And that car stopped three times then all of a sudden then when they piled on the hood back window goes out, then the gas hit like plowing through is plowing through like you’ve seen truck drivers that yeah. Yeah. That’s, that’s legit. It happened to people. Right. And so, yeah, like I, Here’s the thing, like not to jump around a little bit, but it’s the same token, like Bart Simpson has been voiced by a woman for what? 30 years. Yeah. However long that show’s been on. Yeah. Since I’ve been 13, so yeah, probably close to 30 years. Um, but I don’t think anyone’s ever complained. Like, you know, like, I don’t know, there’s Darth Vader. Yeah. Darth Vader, white guy, white guy inside it voiced by a black guy. Well, and it’s, you know, and it’s one of those things where like, and like, and I understand like one of the sentiments that’s out there is, well, Hey, they’re trying to basically step away from this role to free up a spot for a person of color that, that might then get that job. Okay. But who’s to say that that person of color is the best person for that job. Like what, like, so like now I look at, so now the family now family guy is going to change and, and Cleveland’s voice is going to be different. Now they did that a while ago. Um, now, you know, big mouth, which is just starting to really gain traction. One of the main characters is going to change. Um, and yeah, I just, I, I mean, recasting, isn’t an issue though. Like they replaced, you know, Lacy Shabbir well, yeah. I mean, so like Lacey Shavera was the voice of Meg, the first season of family guy. Um, and then, y
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We’re also a couple of days late, uh, due to technical difficulties, go figure Highland for everything. Um, we’re broadcasting live from our homes. If only we had, if only we knew technology, people that could help with our technology issues who knew it would apparently none of them could fix zoom. You’re having it problems that I’m like, did you, is it plugged in? Is it turned on to have you rebooted, but Hey, you can find us online at [inaudible] dot com to his favorite. Give us a like on the socials and subscribe to us everywhere. Fine podcasts are sold. So, and as per usual, uh, we, uh, in case you missed the announcement last week, uh, we have decided to kind of hold off doing our in person events until August. Uh, so we will be setting those up shortly. Um, of course that’s assuming everything is still open by the time August rolls around. Cause if you’re paying attention, uh, places that opened up are starting to close back down again. So we’ll see how that goes. I’m going to be a weather regardless of what it is. It’s going to be an outdoor venue. I think we’re going to pick Nancy whiskeys down in Corktown. Uh, we’re going to see how this all plays out. We should just, we should just have it at like the DCF C soccer field, just we’ll we’ll all be outside. I think like I saw a thing from rhino. They’re doing a wrestling event in the middle of like an eight acre farm. Well, no, it’s behind the, uh, the SOC, uh, and it’s, they’ve actually been th they were actually talking about doing it cause you know, we’ve been running their show for them. Um, they were talking about doing it, uh, at the, at the Marina at, uh, at rhinos Marina. We talked about that when I was hanging out. Cause it’s, he’s got a huge grab a lot. Yup. Oh, by the way, I, um, I got gotta, it’s been a little bit of a bittersweet couple of days. Um, we had a couple of celebrations and a couple losses. I just, you know, I just want to throw it out. Um, me and my wife celebrated our 18th on Monday. That was kind of a, you know, half of it was a tech support for this show, but that’s all right. What we’re here for. My daughter just turned 16 and Hey, excellent job keeping that, ah, keeping that surprise a surprise by the way. Oh yeah, we, um, she still didn’t believe it was hers. Um, we get, we give, we, uh, I didn’t do the big red bow, but we didn’t look very excited. I gotta tell you the picture she did. She was, she was shocked. She was like, is this mine? But it was, it was well worth it. And then, uh, had a couple of losses, uh, um, Merissa Morocco, one of them, one of my closest friends, uh, his older sister died of cancer. And, you know, without whom we would not have the flavor flave stories to be telling. I mean, that was, that was all her arranging and yeah. And her, uh, every party asking for diamond girl from nationwide, whatever. Um, but yeah, we’re, uh, super sad that families are super sad, but, uh, she’s been fighting for a long time and she’s, uh, hopefully not in any pain. Absolutely. And then, uh, and your cat dude. So yeah, I mean, well, I mean, she was 17 and you know, she was just 17 now. Uh, I mean 17 years old and you know, hadn’t really been eating right lately and apparently it was going into kidney failure and lost a shit ton of weight lately. Um, and so it’s, it is, I mean, that’s that hardest decision when you have pets is listening to them when it’s, when they tell you it’s time to go. And then so yeah, that was today. So that was, uh, that was a bitch, but seven 17 is a good life for, for any pet. Oh, for sure. Absolutely. Um, but Hey, uh, brighter, brighter topics. Jesus, let’s get off that. So I don’t get all weepy and blow my cover as a Dick. Uh, um, so no, so we did mention, you know, Hey, as long as places are open, um, I know I got out and about a bit. How about you? Yeah, I, um, got to the barber on Saturday. That was, uh, that was amazing for what to shave my head. Oh, Oh. Like when you’re like, I’m like half bald, like, right. So like get only like, so like when it grows out, it looks awful. Like it looks horrible. And I tried to do the beard trimmer thing and it looked, it was even worse. Um, and my beard was getting sanely long, so yeah, I’d get a little, uh, trim on the side and, you know, it took longer to trim the beer than it did to cut my hair before. So, uh, but it was a, you know, felt like a million bucks when you left. And I, you know, I left the curly stash still nice for me. Um, yeah, I mean it to a, Duffy’s low the local corner bar here. Um, kind of funny, uh, some of the places around town, like I think you, uh, were talking to you that they really took precautions. Duffy’s took out a couple of tables, um, to Ralph Lou in Rochester Hills. Like the windows were open outside every table had a somewhat on it. Yeah. I mean, it was, it was interesting. So Friday, um, I went down to Detroit shipping company, uh, and we’ve kind of talked about, you know, their plans. They removed the migrating, everything outside. Um, it’s cause I went down there cause you know, we’ve got our studio, there were, you know, reopening the studios now. And uh, so I had to put the TV in there, uh, that I had never installed in there before. So that’s up and running. So now we can have zoom guests for there and keep the in the studio down like We’re trying to do. And what they’ve done is, so for those of you who are familiar with it, you know, the layout, but if you aren’t, so there’s an indoor courtyard, which is where like all the tables were like in the center of the room with ringed, by all the restaurants. And then there’s an outdoor courtyard that had a big tent over it. And then there was the back parking lot. Well, the big tent that was in the outdoor courtyard is now in the back parking lot. All of the tables that were in the indoor courtyard are now gone. They have been converted to booths that they built in the back parking lot. So there’s like, there’s literally no parking, um, in the back parking lot anymore. Cause it’s either, uh, the cupboard tables with the tent or the booths. And they built, you know, these booths with little canopies over them. Cause we all know, I mean, other than today, of course it’s been pretty hot and sunny lately. Uh, and they’re making a run into that way and there’s no, uh, there’s no walk up to the bar to get drinks. Everything is you have to be seated. Uh it’s tableside service. And so that’s kind of one of the challenges that they’re having there right now is like their staff, like the only people they’ve ever had on staff have been bartenders and bar backs. And, and so now they’re trying to convert them to waiters slash waitresses. Um, well that’s the one thing we were always concerned about was who, you know, who, if anyone’s coming back to work, are they just sitting on their hands, waiting for the call or they’re like, no way I’m not coming back or they’re like, you know, it was kind of a mixed bag. Um, so I know it was like I said, I was there Friday. Um, and, and had a, it was nice to see, you know, some of the bartenders that I knew and that kind of stuff and some of the staff and, and it’s still only brew hoe and coop, uh, that are open from a restaurant perspective. Uh, look amazing by the way from a dude he always does. Yeah. I mean he he’s. Yeah. Dude, chef max is just, is freaking amazing with what he puts together down there. Um, so, Oh, and I guess that’s the other, the other reason you can be inside, uh, basically, so going inside is literally only if you’re walking in to go to the bathroom or if you’re there for a pickup takeout order. Um, those are the only two reasons why you should be like on the indoor, on the indoor side of things. Uh, but they have refreshed the art. They’ve done a, a really great job. They’ve made a whole commitment to, uh, basically feature black artists for the next year. Um, and do the stuff that they have up right now is just amazing and outstanding. So, I mean, if you get a chance just to like be able to, cause you can walk around the art gallery obviously, um, which is on the second floor of the indoor courtyard. Uh, but you know, just take a look at stuff and see what’s there. It’s a really, really great, uh, it’s a great pop in. Um, but yeah, so I mean, so that was nice. And then I walked around the corner to temple bar, which laughably kinda looks like a seven mile liquor store, uh, now, cause it’s the a C know it’s, it’s, the bar is still the bar, but now they’ve got plexiglass shielding from the bar top to the ceiling, uh, with little holes cut out every now and then that they can slip your drinks through and like take cards or cash through that kind of thing. I was so surprised to hear that like honest to God, like usually it’s the dive bars that are like, whatever, You know what though? I mean, so I, you know, I give like, you know, so I mean, you know, I spent a lot of time talking with Larry George, actually there was so there’s only me, uh, Larry and one other person in the bar. Um, George was apparently hanging out upstairs the owner and he came down and like said, Hey, and thanks for coming back. And, you know, thanks for coming in and all that stuff, um, you know, and had a good talk with him about, you know, how they’re looking at it and how they’re doing things. And it was really interesting. I mean, like they’re like, so like the, the plexiglass around the bar honestly, is really to protect the bartenders. Um, you know, kinda like the whole, you know, masks are there to protect, not you, but other people, you know, that plexiglass is there to keep the bartenders safe. Well that’s, and that’s the weird thing about the masks too. It’s like, okay. They say you don’t wear them walking in. Then when you sit down, you take it off. But like, you know, maybe 25% of the people wore them walking in the rest of the people, kind of everyone I saw just didn’t have them on at all. Um, I know, true. And then no, go ahead. No, no, no. It was just, uh, I was just being cognizant of it. I wasn’t, I don’t think I, I don’t even think I’ve worn mine walking in. Cause I’m like, if I’m taking it off in three steps, you know what I mean? Like, Hey, am I even putting it on now? Well, but so I mean, but so that goes, that gums down for the guidelines from the state is, you know, when you are seated, you are only supposed to be seated basically with people that you walked in with. So that it’s, it’s kind of a, like a closed group kind of thing. And so the masks are supposed to be when you’re walking in, or if you get up from the seat to like walk to the bathroom or whatever else when you’re inside, because that’s when you’re going to be mingling or around other people and increasing your level of contact and exposure. And so you should be wearing one, then it is what it is. Uh, you know, so, like I said, you know, that I left temple bar and wow, I gotta tell ya, it took so long. It took the longest, it has ever taken for me to get a lift, um, from temple bar to get up to whiskey in the jar. Um, there just aren’t a lot out and running right now. Um, which I guess I can’t blame them. Uh, you know, um, but so, you know, finally, you know, got one made my way up to whiskey, um, where, you know, no plexiglass Florida ceiling, they’ve actually taken some of the high top tables and push them, uh, up against the bar. So there’s at least a more, an increased barrier, um, between, you know, the bartenders and, and the people coming in. Um, but again, only, you know, three or four other people in the bar, uh, kind of a good time. And I gotta tell you, it felt really good to actually be in a bar and, uh, and take over the jukebox again, I’m not gonna lie. That’s a, that’s something I’ve really missed. It’s so funny when I was at second base and I’m like, Oh my God, the jukebox is on. Oh my God. And I couldn’t think of the damn Chuck man got the name. I go, what’s the name of the instrumental? I’m like, Oh my God, like, literally, like I lost my, what is, what is that 10 minute remix that I always play and piss everyone off? Yeah, yeah. What’s my playlist. And I went to a, then when I went to Duffy’s, the same thing happened and Ben was like, man, I miss you. Cause he’s always played punk rock for him Because he’s a big, The first thing I do is I put in, you know, dead Kennedys or whatever. He’s like, Oh my God. You know? So, um, but yeah, it’s uh, and Oh yeah. And then we went to great lakes crossing from my, uh, for my daughter’s. Uh, we went to a range. She wanted to go to rainforest cafe for sweet sixteens. Interesting. So I’m curious, how was it like in a, like, how was it in an indoor mall area environment? I’m curious, Walked out of there at seven 20 and it was closed. Like there was no one left. Um, we probably parked in the second parking spot and we got, there was like a five o’clock dinner. Um, there wasn’t really anyone around the, the place was half-full. Um, they only had like four people working, um, to be honest, it was relatively quiet. Um, by the time we left, it was pretty much about three quarters full. We walked out and there was no one in the mall. All those, all the Gates were pulled down and, you know, we didn’t go for a lap. We parked right outside in and out. I was, uh, yeah, I was just kind of weird. It was just weird vibe. Well, I mean, and it kinda is like, no matter where you go, like I said, I mean, I didn’t, I didn’t go a ton of places when I was out Friday, but, you know, it was, it was interesting seeing, like by and large, not a ton of people wearing masks. Um, and although I like everywhere I went, staff was, um, and, and so I give them all the credit in the world. I mean, that’s, you know, it’s not easy to burn a shift, you know, sitting there wearing a mask the entire time and it’s, you know, it has its own challenges, but good for them. I mean, they’re, they’re at least trying to, you know, at least walk The walk. Yeah. I mean, if you’re, you know, and again, if you’re not tipping, you know, I think I tipped a hundred percent of my Barbara tip 50% on a dinner, 16 people. I got, I got yelled at quick. Yeah. I got yelled at both by Larry and Augie, uh, for how much I tipped them. Uh, I was out on Friday, but I’m like, guys, well, not only that, but I mean, I mean, I’ve got a three month backlog where I haven’t, you know, been out drinking and tipping. So I mean, it’s, my bank account is, is still like, like, wait, wait, what? What’s going on? Wait, why is there so much in here? Wait, Oh, you haven’t been out. That’s why. Yeah. Right. All the bartenders haven’t made their car payments in three months because of a you, right. Exactly. It’s been a rough. Um, but Hey, so good story. And this was kind of a late breaking one, um, that I just shot across beforehand. We’ve, we’ve talked in talking about walking around downtown Detroit. Um, so we’re all familiar with project Greenlight. Uh, there was a story that just came across about a man, um, who like, so he’s sitting in a black gentlemen, um, and he said, he’s at work one day. And he gets a phone call from the DPD, uh, that says he should come down to the station and turn himself in to be arrested. Like, and he thought it was a prank, so he ignored it. Uh, and he gets to his house and he pulls into his driveway and two cop cars, uh, basically blocked them in. Uh, they, you know, they, they pull, you know, get him out of the car. They tell him he’s being arrested, uh, arrest him in front of his wife and kids. Uh, and this is a quiet Southern Farmington Hills. This is not, um, you know, this is like literally like a nice sub. Yeah. And so, you know, they arrest them, they take them downtown, they book them, they process them, they do everything. Uh, they get him, uh, you know, they sit him down and start, you know, an interrogation room. And he, they were like, Oh, well, you know, when’s the last time you were in Shinola. Uh, and he was like, well, I, I think I checked it out in 2014 when they opened that’s about it. And they were like, Oh, so you know, this isn’t you. And they, they slap a photo down. Um, and it’s, you know, someone who had, uh, apparently walked away with five Shinola watches, um, and it clearly was not him, but the facial recognition software, uh, said it was. And, and so that’s, you know, this is the issue that we’ve talked about a number of times, and I know what a lot of people have as well, where basically facial recognition technology works great. If you’re white, if, if you are not, there are significant issues. And so this guy got arrested, got his fingerprints taken, got his DNA taken, um, got all this stuff, happened to him because of a bad hit from facial recognition technology. Yeah. I’m looking at it like the company’s, uh, data works, um, and they don’t measure their measure for accuracy or bias. So it’s just basically, it’s just there. It’s just there and Hey, hope for the best. And if you get caught up in it, sorry. Yeah. Uh, 10 times basically they falsely identified African American and Asian faces 10 times to 100 times more than Caucasian faces. Jeez. Yeah. And, uh, stop it, stop using it. Um, yeah, please, for the love of God. And here’s the thing, I mean, and it’s not that, cause I think we had talked about this last week as well. Like I don’t agree with the project. Greenlight needs to go away because at its core, the video surveillance helps business owners, the facial recognition component of it that needs to go the hell away. That that’s the issue. And that’s where all of these problems start coming into being, I mean, here’s the thing. You can use it as a guide, but you can’t use it to grab someone out of their house and cuff them and take them to the state out of their frigging driveway in front of their wife and kids for the love of God. I mean, that’s, I could see if he can question and going, Hey, I’d like to talk to you for a minute and be like, or you have the, or you have the detective show up at the house with the photograph that didn’t look like him and go Ash at our bad, sorry, stupid software. It have a nice day, sir. That’s the thing like you get, you get pulled out of your house and arrested and taken. Even if they said he falsely identified, dude, that’s 10 years. You’re telling that story to friends and family or anyone that’s going to listen. I will absolutely how EFT up that situation is. Like I said, if They were just calmly use it, like that would be one thing, but yeah, taking it to that part. Um, couple of other things like going on some big things, baseball’s back 60 games season. Um, I don’t know. Uh, I know you, uh, I think we’ll will opening day be a big thing this year. I don’t know. Um, and I don’t even know if they’re gonna allow people in the stadium or how they’re going to put people in the park. Wait, wait, what put people in the park now? How, how they’re not going to allow people in the stadium? I don’t know. That’s what I’m saying. I don’t know if they’re gonna allow, uh, if it’s going to be like soccer, where they’re playing in front of a crowd and piped in and piped in now, crowd noises. I mean, I wouldn’t mind going and sitting in the bleachers as long as I’m kind of like in a little Island, but you know who the hell is going to work there. Who’s going to do, you know, hashtag still better attendance than the Trump rally just saying, ah, you guys loved it piling on shit. You know what else is dumb? Um, I guess apparently I swear to God it’s from the Detroit news. I had to read it four times. Cause I thought it was the onion or Babylon and B, um, that the owner of Eskimo pie has got to change the name. Now dude, I get, you know, so think about it. Like we’ve had this con, like we had this conversation when beaners changed our name. Uh, and when we kind of joked that we’re offended about crack. Exactly. Why, why hasn’t Cracker barrel. But before know, we’ve been telling them, we’ve been telling that story for what seven years now, guys, more than that. And I just, Oh, for the love of God, like I don’t, I mean like on some level I get it, but yeah. I mean, that’s that, you know, I’m sorry, that’s, that’s not, you know, that doesn’t have the historical kind of in my mind and, and please feel free to tell me where I’m wrong in my mind that does not have the negative connotations that an aunt Jemima does that, you know, though all the brands that are looking at changing their names and that kind of stuff now, I mean it’s, well, I mean the answer, my main thing, like you knew not that it was cringy, but you knew it came from that gone with the wind wind era dude. A nice, so I’ve always, I’ve said here’s what I would love. I would love to do an interview with like one board member per decade from Quaker oats and just be okay. Like, okay. So, so not, not a problem in 1950, not, not a problem in it because it’s not. Okay. So explain to me why you looked at that in 1960 and said no big deal in 1970s and nobody deal eighties, nineties, two thousands. Now, now you finally realize this is like what finally, what finally happened in that board room that made you go, Yeah, we have a problem on our hands. Yeah, we should. We should probably do something about this. My two favorite ideas or memes is that each have a Shaquille oatmeal and flapjack Karen that’s. I like flat carrot. Yeah. And then there was the under Quaker instead of undertake the undertaker with the side. I do think that would be amazing. Um, oatmeal. I’m like whoever thought of that, I got to buy him a beer. Exactly. That’s that’s just genius in and of itself. Uh, so you know, what, what makes me laugh is, you know, there was a story that came across and I don’t even think I shot it in the links. Um, there was a guy who basically tried to fleece the, uh, the government with the paycheck protection program with, for a company that had been out of business for two years, um, and managed to get a couple million dollars, uh, in the paycheck protection program. Um, and bought himself, a couple of cars, bought his girlfriend a car, but you know, like, like really, really high end cars. And you want to see good fellows. Yeah. He got busted by the FBI and yeah, so now he’s screwed. Um, but I’m just saying, you know, if he would have been smart, he could’ve taken $74,500 of that. Um, and gone to Boston dynamic and bought one of those creepy spot robot, dog, things that we’ve been talking about forever that scare the ever living shit out of us price tag. Yes. $74,500. You too could have the little creature from the bullet head app or metal head episode of black mirror, a low end Tesla gun or a robot dog. I can put a shot gun on fee. That’s the dilemma, totally dilemma, $74,500. Like I like, I’d kinda like to figure out how to make that work, but that seems like a really dumb thing to be buying. Yeah. 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And the deed to get started protecting yourself online today, that’s www private internet access.com/it, and the day 76% off. Appreciate it. Very cool. Um, so I, I’m making my, daughter’s going with her friend to Starbucks and they have a venti and I keep joking that it’s not even a large it’s it’s it means 20 and yeah. And the girl barks back at me and she goes, Oh, it’s a 20 ounce or mr. Bob. And I’m like, God bless. Like I was today years old when I learned that I’ve been making fun of Starbucks for 15 years. And now I get, was that the same friend that barked back at me about the whole watching sports on TV? No, no. That one was one of them, one of my funnier moments as a human being. Um, so this is a, it’s been an interesting, uh, I got to catch Ford versus Ferrari, uh, this weekend. Um, Oh yeah. It’s on a, it’s on HBO, right? Yeah. Oh yeah. Um, my wife knows nothing about racing. Uh, absolutely loved the movie. Um, phenomenal story if you haven’t seen it. Um, it’s basically the Carroll Shelby. They wanted to beat Ferrari in the, in a 24 hour Lamont. Is this crazy race that goes for a day? I don’t even know if they still do it or not. Yeah. It’s a, it’s a 24 hour race. It’s it’s pretty it’s it’s draining. Yeah. But the crazy, the weirdest part was like Batman was the grace car driver who lost a hundred pounds for the role. And Lee Lee Iacocca was the Punisher. So like the whole time I’m watching it and then we’re waiting for a fight to break out the Punisher. He’s got Lee Iacocca has this shit, Matt Damon, who I’m not a really huge fan of, um, killed it as Carroll Shelby. He was awesome. Yeah. He was a, I don’t know. It was great. Flick is so worth. Even if you hate racing, it’s a great story. Um, so I mean like really the only things I got caught up on, uh, I watched history, So I’ve been like kind of Netflix been doing stuff. I watched history one Oh one, um, which if you’re not familiar with it, it is, uh, it’s only an eight episode series. Um, and just like little quick hits about like the history of fast food in America. And you know, it’s just, it’s, it’s really, really good. It’s, it’s a good series overall. And now I’m, uh, I think I’m six episodes into conspiracy, uh, which, you know, me, I love a good conspiracy theory just to pick it apart. And like, that’s the thing I really love about this show is they let all the conspiracy theorists like talk their talk. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I love them poke it. Um, no, so, and it’s like they, so they let the conspiracy theorist do their thing and then they have like relevant experts mixed in that are like, okay, well, here’s why this theory is not true. Here’s why this theory is not true. And here’s how this really plays out all that kind of stuff. I’m just getting a text and breaking news. We didn’t land on the moon. Go ahead. We absolutely did. Um, but yeah, no. So I watched those two things and there’s that? Um, yeah, other than that, uh, you know, and you know what, I gotta give a shout out cause you know, so the, uh, the news broke. Um, so Lucifer, uh, season five, uh, the first eight episodes are dropping August 21st. Um, and then the next eight are still TBD. They haven’t announced a release date yet, but they did announce that he signed for season six. I just recently went back and burned through those again. And in season four, I didn’t give Lucifer enough credit at the time for tackling some social issues. Like there’s a really good, um, the black lives matter episode without being a black lives matter episode. Cause it, it it’s, Amenadiel, um, you know, with a, with a young black teenager, um, and they’re run into a situation with the police and that kind of stuff and overzealous white cops pulling guns on them and that kind of stuff. Um, so yeah, I just gotta, I gotta give the show props and I’m just happy. Uh, number one, that there’s going to be a season five and the number two, there’s going to be a season six, My new hotness. And this is a, I got to get you down. This wormhole is apparently hot. I’ve never, I don’t know how I’ve never seen these, but it’s the comedy central presents. This is not happening. So it’s basically set up in a strip club in Hollywood. I think it’s called cheetahs, um, where the, the, the there’s standup comics that tell like 10 minute quick stories and there’s like 50 people in the audience. So I was intrigued by like the big name, small crowd thing. I liked. I kind of do that. And you’ve got everyone from like Joe Rogan, Tom green, Tom Arnold already Lang Jim brewer, respectable lineup. There’s a bunch of small time comics, but they’re basically, they’re not telling standup, they’re telling funny stories. Um, I just watched one today of a comedian. His last name is park. He’s an Asian guy. I’m talking about how he was bullied at his middle school. And he ended up having to go back there for a talent show for like his niece. And then it ended up getting like the worst case of diarrhea of all time and like ruin the bathroom and they crapped all. And he had to like right as he rode his bike there for nostalgia, but it’s like this drawn out 10 minute poop story. We’ll meet. It’ll make you cry. Um, the best one, uh, Jim brewer talked about, uh, how we worked at Sears when he was like 16. And there was like, uh, he was in the paint section and, uh, the guy that worked in hardware, it was like a funny duddy 40 year old, you know, I wouldn’t take this job real serious. Okay. So he called in a, he called it a missile threat from this is, you know, basically saying, you know, this is mole Mark Kadafi I, I I’m when I was shooting missiles at your store. And then he says long live paint. And he basically the guy called the cops and the cops showed up and like helicopters, the FBI shows they did. So like, he’s got to tell this story to like the cops, then the FBI. And every time we would finish, they would go like, Oh my God, like, that’s hilarious that guy’s definitely a suspect. He should be a comedian. And like the way Jim brewer tells a story, man, it’s glow. It’s gold. I’ll have to give it a look like I said, go ahead. No, no, go ahead. If you like a good, uh, like kind of like, uh, Dave, uh, got me to rope me into telling, uh, uh, I shit, my pants story. I go comedy improv and it’s kind of like that kind of format. And if you’re missing, if you haven’t seen that yet, uh, just look up, uh, Bob Walton, spiel. Uh, I forgot. What was that? Um, God, I can’t remember what, what the name of the show was. Uh, damn. Can’t remember. I don’t know. Just Bobcat have too many videos on YouTube. Bob Walton, spiel, Google. It you’ll find it. It’s yeah. They Googled me at work and found the video, like the gold cup that show whoever put it on. I thought it was going to be buried in like three hours of people telling stories. No, no, they put my name up and at this point I’m like, you know what, leave the damn story. I’m not even mad, dude. You’ve told that story. I can’t tell you how many times. Yeah. Yeah. Google me. You’re going to get a Ted talk on YouTube. You’re gonna get a Ted talk and like me pooping my pants on a date and clips from wrestling events. That’s yeah. Right, right. I don’t even think they’re tagged with my name unless that’s just shit. I liked, um, the couple of things in, um, movies that we didn’t talk about stuff that’s coming out. Um, I’m kind of mad. Um, did you see the changes that they’re trying to make to justice league? Well, on this four hour reboot, so I don’t think it’s the changes they’re trying to make. It’s the stuff they’re putting back in. So, I mean, it’s, it’s not like the reshooting stuff it’s, you know, so the movie was going one way and then, you know, the guy, you know, the guy had personal issues and dropped out of the film, uh, you know, and they got replaced as the director. Um, and, and it went kind of a different direction. Uh, and so they’re basically getting it back to where it was supposed to be a much darker movie. Um, no pun intended, given that you’re leading up to the fact that dark side, um, is supposed to be playing a much bigger role in this film. So they, they, so they’re not adding. So I got from that, that they’re like adding it, like, because like they’re taking out step and Wolf, who’s off a horse shit villain anyway. And we talked about that, like of, of all of all the villains you have in, in the DC universe. Really, you went, you went with Steppenwolf without dark side, stupid decision. Like what were you thinking? And that’s, I think that’s what I’ve been watching the shit load of super friends lately, like with the Legion of doom. It’s like, how did you not have that collection of fillings going against the Jew? Like it just, it’s sitting there staring at you in the face, like my bestow, or is it that I say that. Right. Um, and like, uh, Mitchell Plex and bizarro, Superman and Solomon Grundy. And I’m like, ah, it’s could have been so good. Um, Oh, uh, Hey Pat, Pat, the weirdo says, Bob, don’t worry about it. Nobody can spell your last name. They won’t find you on YouTube, but apparently this is Snyder. Cut is a, is clocking in it four hours and they’re going to, they might make it a mini series dude. Like, and I mean, you remember the dude I bitched about the last two Avengers movies. Like why I’m sorry. There’s no movie needs to be three hours plus long none, bro. And then there, and then there, it’s going to be 20 to $30 million to do it. Just make a God damn new movie on a, on a shoestring budget. You don’t need Henry Cavill make frickin Michael Sarah or some bullshit actor that hasn’t worked in a while. And you know, Zach Morris or either if you’re going to spend that much money, just redo it or make a new, make it the next film, make it yeah. Do a part two. Yeah. Right. Like meanwhile yeah. Meanwhile, the Legion of doom. Yeah. They missed it. They missed the boat. By the way, if you’re going to have Ben Affleck as Batman and not have Matt Damon has Robin and put them in the gray tights, that’s absolutely like that would be the Kevin Smith cut. I feel like that would, if I ran Hollywood, I wouldn’t even let them make a Batman without Matt. Damon is the other one, the other great story, by the way, um, karate kid. Uh, that’s exactly where I was going. Yup. Yeah. Talking about Netflix Cobra, Kai, the series that had one and two was on YouTube. So Hey kids, if you’re keeping score at home, it’s time to cancel those YouTube reds subscriptions. I went to Cannes. I thought it was like nine bucks a month. I went to cancel it. And I remember adding, I got the family thing. So like everyone could, you know, dude, it was 18 bucks a month for YouTube premium. I’m like, that’s a bill. I’m glad to get rid of. I’m like, dude, you know, and I gotta watch a commercial now every, every five videos. Okay. Yeah. I know. I thought it would be all spoiled and go like, you know, um, but yeah, Cobra Kai’s coming on Netflix. They did. It’s a huge win. So yeah. Yeah. So it’s it season three, that’s coming to Netflix. Um, which apparently like they already have done. Uh, and you know, YouTube basically said, Hey, we’re getting out of the original content and programming space. And so they started shopping around and we’ve talked about this on the show before that it was basically down to Netflix and Hulu as far as who was going to get it. And so I guess Netflix is going to get non-exclusive rights to seasons one and two. Uh, cause obviously it’ll probably still be out there on YouTube, uh, or, you know, they, I think they had it on Amazon prime for awhile. Uh, and then season three will be going exclusively to Netflix. And I think part of the deal, um, if I recall correctly was they had to agree to at least a season four. So that’s good news as well. Yeah. I mean it’s, it’s good, dude. It’s such a great Serious, like that’s I remember what, like when this was the one that talk about this first came out of her, both of us going, please don’t screw this up, please. Don’t screw this up, please. Don’t screw this up. Oh my God, they didn’t screw this up. This is fricking amazing. Well, and the best thing is that they gave the fans what they wanted. They, they, they made LaRusso to be the bad guy and then they flipped it and then they turned it back and then, you know, they, they gave us exactly what, you know, go figure. You could give us what we want. We’ll we’ll pay for it. We’ll drool while we’re throwing our money at you. Like, yeah, that’s what we do. Thank you for it. Like, it’s basically like if any of us ever got, could have the patience to write a script and then the focus and the mental yeah. The mental wherewithal to go ahead and do it. Yeah. Yeah. Um, Oh, by the way, there’s got we’re so scattered on stories this week. Um, when I laugh by myself, I know it’s stupid. Um, it’s a, it’s a study from Fox to, um, but there’s a new word that I haven’t used in awhile basically to study finds that flushing, your toilet could release virus, Laden, toilet clues, toilet flumes. I, yes. I have not heard the plume. I can’t tell you in how long, like it wasn’t, it wasn’t that like the, like when you put a feather in your hat, that was the plume. If I recall correctly, I don’t know. But the here’s the best part. My, uh, now 16 year old, I’m telling her this story because I’m trying to, you know, cause I’m a dad and I want to tell poop jokes to my kids to make them roll their eyes. And she goes close the goddamn lid and flush that. And I’m like, see, that’s why you are going to be the president one day. I think that no, that’s why she will be too smart to be president one day. Um, but Hey, uh, so speaking of, you know, flushing money away and that kind of stuff, I felt bad. Um, the story that came across the kid, uh, that opened a Robin hood account, um, which, and, uh, you know, they’ve, they’ve been a sponsor Of the show before, so sorry. Uh, but you know, so they’ve, uh, apparently he managed to rack up, I believe it was $730,000. Um, and, and it’s weird how the spin on this came out. So he, he was basically $730,000 in the negative. Still couldn’t do the math. I tried to do the math on how he was running investments. So it comes down to like margin calls and that kind of stuff. And, and yeah. Yeah. And, and so, but what they said was that the problem is, is that if he had waited like six hours, the rest of the transactions would have gone through, and it wouldn’t have been anything close to that. Um, but you know, like his parents were like, okay, how in the hell does a 20 year old kid even get enough leverage slash whatever, to be able to incur a $730,000 debt, even for six or eight hours. I think you missed the big part of the story. He committed suicide when he saw the negative balance. Oh, no, that’s what I said. Yeah. Oh, sorry. I missed that. Yeah. Um, but yeah, that was the, uh, you know, what did he have? He had $16,000 in the beginning, I guess he won a little bit, not one, but you know, he was ahead. And then, uh, you know, basically you thought for what it’s worth, uh, bill, just put a link in the watch party chat, uh, to go to your YouTube video in case anybody. Um, thanks. 1159. Bill. Love you, man. No, but he, he thought he basically just destroyed his entire future. And why bother living upon what you have is $700,000 debt for the rest of my life. Crazy. Yes. Oh God. Let’s see. I can’t even imagine. But yeah, they give, I mean, they give credit cards to college kids these days. So I mean, they, they kind of know what they’re doing. Um, Oh eight, but at speaking of that for we dive in, uh, so Hey, capital one knows life. Doesn’t alert you about your credit card. That’s why they created Eno. The capital one assistant that looks out for surprise credit card charges, like over tipping, duplicate charges or potential fraud, and then sends an alert to your phone. Then it helps you to fix them. If you need to. It’s another way capital one is watching out for your money when you’re not capital one, what’s in your wallet, see capital one.com for details. So I got another like, do you remember how you, why do we hate slow roll and all those things, because it’s an excuse to stop for traffic. That’s it? Oh, okay. So yeah. Excuse for selfies. And then for the love of God just stopped for traffic lights. That was always our biggest bitch. Chick-fil-A opens up in no bites. And there’s like this line, like they had to do a helicopter run for like five minutes to show this line. And here I am thinking as a rational human being, it’s a chicken sandwich. Not at all, not just, it’s a good chicken sandwich, chicken sandwich. You have another Chick-fil-A at Somerset mall. About 20 minutes away, 30 minutes. Maybe if you had to put some tracks that doesn’t have a mile long line doesn’t have. Yeah. So now you can basically go to Somerset park, go upstairs, go to the, Chick-fil-A, get the chicken sandwich drive back to Novi. And you still wouldn’t be through that line. But, but then you wouldn’t have been able to get the selfie, but you wouldn’t have been able to sell it there. That’s, that’s how that works. Check in there and said, I’m here. And you’re not just like everything else on social media these days is look where I’m at. Look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me and look at me. Look at me, look at me. Yeah. But like at what point does, like the cities of America is like, just like Chick-fil-A is opening up in Shelby township. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. How about no, um, you’re going to need the, the parking lot of a Walmart or you’re not moving in, like, is it dude, how much police duty did Novi need to, to, to run this damn right. I’m saying like, and chick plays like, I don’t know. I don’t care. We just opened the doors. Dude. We don’t care about her community impacts and he didn’t pick up a deal though. Like I don’t get it. It’s not that good of a Sam Popeye’s it’s better, but it’s is better when all blasphemy Wendy’s spicy chicken sandwich. I w crushes Popeye’s crushes. I will fight you on this. You’re stupid. You know, I’m sorry. I’m sorry that you prefer a sandwich with basically a chicken finger, uh, as opposed to yeah. Kate, get outta here with that nonsense pickle and Ooh, and a pickle. Ooh. Yeah. Um, so our gyms, our gyms opening up or no, dude, I don’t know. So that was too much. So they’re supposed to be opening up tomorrow. Um, but then, uh, cause you know, basically there’s a federal, I think it was a federal judge that came in and said, you know, yeah, you have to allow Jim’s opening and laughably. We talked about this with Fred the last time, uh, Fred Brown, the last time he was on the show about, okay, well if health and fitness is a part of this, then why aren’t gyms open? And he saying the exact same thing that Whitmer and her staff are saying, which is okay, but in gyms, people are heavily exhaling a lot at an increased rate. And so you have more shit floating around. And so that creates problems. Uh, and so who knows, like, I, I genuinely don’t know if, if they’re opening up now or not. Cause I think it’s, it’s tied up in the court. So we probably won’t, I haven’t seen an update yet. She appealed in like, um, I guess, you know, I’m, I’m in this whole physical therapy thing. So I need, I, to be honest, I want to go to the gym cause I need to strengthen on my left leg. And so I’m looking at burn fitness going, I just was going to go in there and I got to do two machines. I know exactly which ones they are and I’m looking at I’m going, they have classes going, I’m like, wait a minute. Cause I was gonna like sign up real quick, Pat, Pat, the weirdo just turned and he said, well, you know, strip clubs are open and they cause heavy breathing. So that’s yeah. Thanks Pat. Which ones do you go to? Um, no, but they, they, they were showing classes already at the burn fitness by my, and then they will let you call them. They’re like, yeah, no, we don’t know yet. So and so, so we lightly touched on, uh, you know, the answer of my, my thing as a, as a tangent and I guess one of the unintended side effects that kind of made me laugh is the day they announced that change, um, due to eBay and Facebook marketplace were flooded by people like who apparently ran out to stores or ran to their pantries, um, and started listing, let started listing aunt Jemima bottles as collector’s item. Uh, it discontinued at like 10 to 50 times the face value. Like what, what, Where are we as a society? That that’s a thing now I’m going to, I’m going to come to your house in like 10 years and you’re, I’m going to go on like, and it’s going to be like your trophy case. Like bro, where’d you get that man? That’s that, that, that won’t be at my house. I’m just, let’s be crazy. I remember I bought a like Simpson cereal when like the first came out, I just kept it and I put it in my baseball card, a bookcase and I still have it. I looked at an eBay and I could sell it for like $6. And I’m like, you know, at this point, like throw in the garbage, what the hell is the point? You know what, I forgot to talk to you about it. I wanted to see if this was bullshit or not. I spent about three minutes on it. So I don’t know if it’s right or not. Um, I kept getting this meme going Google any three digit number, as long as it doesn’t start with a zero. Right. As long as it doesn’t start 101 Oh one didn’t work either. But if you Google any three digit number and the word cases or new Q cases. Yep. It came up eight 23. Here’s the story? Nine, nine, nine. Here’s the, here’s a news story about where, what location had that number of new cases from somewhere? It was always from a different location. It was always I’m like w X, Y, Z, and Toledo or whatever. Um, and basically, uh, I don’t know if it’s, like I said, a hundred, 100 didn’t work and one-on-one didn’t work one or two did. And then I like stopped five, five, five work, nine, nine, nine, six, six, six. Um, it was completely and utterly bizarre to me. Um, Well, I mean, it just goes to show you, I mean, if nothing else, I mean, Google is very heavily weighting news, um, about coronavirus at this point for obvious reasons. Um, and yeah, I mean, it’s, it’s kinda crazy that no matter what number you throw in, there’s somebody that has that number or had that number, um, you know, in recent news and recent history, that’s, that’s making that pop. See, and I also get like, from the other side of the conspiracy theorists that say it’s bullshit and they’re just trying to flood the, you know, build scaring with her. I’m like, dude, like, you know, here’s the thing. When you sit at home long, you start thinking of crazy shit. Um, the w the one though, um, I guess the FDA came out and they said there’s nine hand sanitizers. Um, that could kill you. And we’ll tell you after sports and weather, wait, what the FDA came out, said, there’s nine different hands. Talk for a sec. I’m refilling my drink and listening. Yeah. Yeah. There’s nine hand sanitizers that contain methanol, which is absorbed through the skin or ingested. Um, it’s, it’s, it can basically kill you. It’s it’s, uh, a toxic alcohol that’s used as a solvent, a pesticide, um, alternative fuel source, but apparently most of the, um, methanol based, uh, are made in China or made in Mexico or they’re made cheaply. Um, I guess if you have you used too much of it, um, basically nausea, vomiting, headache, blurred vision, permanent blindness seizures, coma, uh, damages, the nervous system and death. Um, it’s lethal, only used in doses of 30 to 240 million. I mean, so how is that different from a night out drinking with us? Like, I guess I’m confused. Um, but then there’s, then there’s nine of them that they, that they list, um, all clean, ask biochem, clean care, no germ, um, LaVar, um, Hey, he’s alive Santa derm. Whoops. He was sleeping. Um, but apparently, yeah. Uh, uh, if you have something that contains methanol, um, throw it in the trash. Yeah. Methanol bad. That’s that’s a, that’s a pretty easy one. If you buy antibacterial thing, you don’t look at the, Oh, is this organic? Like, you’re just trying to think. Nobody looks at the ingredients list on frigging anything. I love know, I love the meme that’s floating around. Uh, somebody had posted, Hey, you know, here’s the ingredients list from a vaccine. Um, which one do you object being put into your body? There’s like all these chemical compounds and that kind of stuff. And people are like, Oh my God, that’s terrible. All of them like really? Um, so that’s actually the chemical composition of an Apple. So that was the, uh, do you support banning dihydrogen nitrogen oxide. It’s the most corrosive chemical known to mankind. It eats through rocket. Yeah. Thousands of people die from it every year. It’s drought. We’re not going to tell you that. Good old Penn and teller. I missed that. Totally forgot about when we’re talking about justice league. Um, what do you think about Michael Keaton returning his Batman? I mean, better than, uh, Ben Aflac, uh, and certainly better than George Clooney and better than Skippy. Mick vampire kid, Val Kilmer spaghetti at walls to see what sticks at this point. Oh, no, not about killer. Who was a Steven Pattinson? Roger Pattinson. What’s the kid’s name from? I never watched a single Twilight thing thinking I’m happy about it, Robert Penn vampires. But apparently it’s going to be like, here’s the thing. Is it going to be like a princess Leia rogue one where it’s like Michael Keaton, but they like smooth as skin out and don’t make them look like such an old bag. Um, cause it’s like, it’s going to be like play a cameo on flash. So obviously he’s going to go back in some time. Maybe like maybe they’re getting to the episode where I, cause I mean, that was always, you know, the passing of the torch was when bane breaks Batman’s back and he can no longer be Batman anymore. Um, and kind of a mentor role. Yeah. So maybe they’re finally getting rid of that story who knows, Or they get bored and it’s just like Batman in the later years when he’s 70 and he can barely walk up the stairs. See, now that’s a good movie. Make that or like, you know, or, or a prequel when they’re all like eight years old. I was, I do that already. They did that with, um, Gotham you off them or, you know, it’s, it’s like, yeah, the retired Batman kids. Let me tell you a story. When I took on the joker, when I, when he was Jack Nicholson was the best joke. Let me tell you why. And then the big chase is he’s on like a Walmart squirter whipping around Gotham on Rascals that have like, that have rocket launchers of course. Cause it’s bad when they’re going to call time out, you just gotta hit his inhaler. Yeah. Got it. Ivy bag on a roller cart next to this. That’s again, why are we not writing this crap? What’s wrong with us? Like four people, five Oh mother of God. So, Hey, you had a, you shot, you shot a note across without any really story, backing it up. Um, about barbecue joints being the only recession proof business. I mean, not that I disagree cause I’ve ordered from them several times, but Holy shit. Um, father’s day, um, we’re not going out anywhere cause there’s nothing really kind of open from, you know, and I don’t want my dad out because he’s, you know, like 78. Um, so I’m like, Hey, pop out. I’m just going to go pick up some barbecue and we’ll see at your house, you know, cause usually, uh, usually we go to the Carpathia club and, you know, get a Hungarian sausage and, and watch soccer and have a beer. That’s kinda been like the last 20 years of father’s day with my dad. So, you know, I look forward to it, but you know, there’s no soccer this year. There’s no father’s day picnic at Carpathia. So I said, I’ll bring over some barbecue. Well, I’ll be goddamned. It costs in woodpile. There’s a line out into the street. Um, woodpile opened up a new location in Madison Heights. We get in there. Um, they’re out of everything at like one 30. Wow. There’s no ribs. There’s no, uh, uh, Chile, I think they’re out of two other things. So I’m like, what do you have? Give me a pound of whatever you have left. So I got like burnt ends and brisket. The brisket was not even, you couldn’t make it cut pieces anymore. It was all, it was gone. Um, the jalapeno sausage, I mean, it was phenomenal. It’s amazing. But like there was a line out the door on both of those places. I mean, I guess if you’re putting out good food. Yeah. I find you, like, I think I kind of did it smart. I was like, I stopped Saturday. I went over to shots market. There were like 14 in Garfield blossom. Um, and they always, Oh yeah, I do it. And they’ve, uh, they, and they apparently they sold it and now the original owners are back. Um, and they’re going through a whole remodel and everything. So I mean, it’s, it’s, it’s phenomenal. It’s a great, like that’s, that’s my go to like meat market. Cause it’s close to the house and that kind of stuff, um, you know, picked up, uh, you know, some T-bones and that kind of stuff. I just figured I’d do it myself and grill on Sunday. Yeah, that was, um, I was, uh, shots was the place that my dad used to take the deer too, that they used to shoot and he was basically, you bring up a deer and then you come back later and it’s a couple of steaks, a couple bowls of chili, couple this couple that you know. Um, but yeah, I’m surprised. That’s great that they’re still around. I like hearing those stories from folks. So dude, what’s going on with zoom? Like one week they say they’re going to provide encryption next week. They say, they’re not. Then they say they are apparently now they are providing end to end encryption for free users. Yes. Because like, you know, when the CEO came out and said, we’re only gonna do it for the cops, um, your were not because of the cops and now they’re saying they’re going to do it. So like do people just not give a shit anymore? They’re going to use what they’re going to use and do whatever you want with it. Is that what it’s boiled down to? Um, I mean, hopefully they understood the blow back that happened. Um, I mean, let’s be real. Their whole thing is, you know, they they’ve taken, they’ve gotten a lot of boosts over this past few months. Um, and I don’t think they want to lose that. And, and that was causing a lot of negative PR for them. And so they realized, yeah, let’s go ahead and back down off that position. Well, I’m glad they like it. You know, basically they said since, uh, or they went and uh, went, if they’ve engaged with, uh, civil liberties organizations, a CSO council, child safety advocates, and encryption experts, government reps, their own users, they got feedback and they asked what they want and what they need. So like, I guess good on them for like, I guess getting eliciting. Uh, here’s the thing they’re writing a huge way right now. They could easily. Cause right now, um, teams is offering a personal version, Microsoft teams, um, Google’s, they’re, they’re all racing to catch up again. Screw you Google it like hard because like every time I set up a new calendar invite and say, make it a zoom meeting, they sneak a little join via Google meets button into there. Even when you say don’t do that, Hey Dave, geez, sorry that the free email service you don’t know Or inconveniences he’s slightly, but it’s not, it’s not a slight inconvenience dude. Like I’ve had show hosts and guests that have clicked the wrong link because it says it’s there and that’s what you should be clicking. And of course they put theirs above the zoom link. That’s actually the real thing Right now. Zoom is above on this one, this one right now zoom is above. Okay. But it’s not, you know, can you have you dicked with it to see if that’s a, that’s an opt out? Yeah. You can’t. I haven’t spent enough. Yeah. Then I, yeah, I will never be using Google meats. Thank you. No, there’s No, there Google makes me now. Yes. Oh, they’ll have impossible meat in, in not too long. That’s I’m sure that I’m so pissed that I don’t own meet up.com. We’ve talked about that for so long angry and we’d do it all in. Like we could do it all at barbecue places. I know. But so speaking of going virtual, um, I know Detroit startup week, uh, is going on currently and they went to an all virtual format this year, um, as did the Apple developers conference, which is kinda cool. Well, indeed, uh, Detroit startup week apparently had technical difficulties yesterday, like we did on Monday. Yep. That is one of the issues of, uh, doing these things virtually. But I think, you know, I think at this point, everybody is, uh, accepting of the fact that this shit is a perfect science unless, uh, you know, a must we’re, uh, you know, doing this over some sort of other platform or some streaming device, that’s not, uh, you work with the best you got. Yeah. I mean, hell we did. We’ve had technical difficulties in studio before. It’s not like, you know, I complete elimination of things. It just, this is one more thing that can possibly go wrong. It is what it is. No, I’m super happy to see the Detroit startup week is still a kind of doing what they do saw a nice little piece on a, it was a channel 62 or CBS or whatever with, uh, with Monica wheat. Yup. She looks great on TV as a she doesn’t person. But yeah, that was, uh, uh, that’s always a really, it’s amazing how many people, like she said, I think was it 10,000 or 30,000? They got through last year, uh, through the whole entire event. So that was a bill just chimed in the Lake breaking comment that said now he’s, we’re after the, uh, the Eskimo pie. Now he’s worried they’re coming for a Swedish fish and Spanish rice. That’s what, uh, I was going to say why it was Swedish bill, write a letter about Swedish fish. I’ll write one for, uh, I’ll write one for juice crackers in general, like saltines. Um, I don’t even know who owns them because they’re all like 70 different companies make them well, exactly. It’s like Xerox, it’s ubiquitous name now, but uh, yeah. Uh, what else needs to go like, yeah, I’m a, you know, here’s the thing, I don’t know. There’s, there’s a lot of people, like, I don’t want to keep harping on the angioma thing, but if you talk to like their family going, like, this was a kind of an amazing thing for our family and you know, like she worked 30 years for a, um, kind of what was the parent company at the time? Um, that eventually became Quaker oats. Yeah. Yeah. But like made a great living and, and, you know, came from, you know, obviously being a slave to like having this, having a living kind of a great life, uh, being the spokesperson for this brand and making a lot of money. It’s kind of a, I don’t want to say it’s a great story because it started off horrible. Um, but like, you know, you’re, you’re, you’re removing that. Um, so I don’t, you know, again, I don’t know where they’re going to go with it, what they’re going to call it. Um, well, and that’s, that’s, I think it will be interesting to see how that actually evolves. Um, Oh, and speaking of actually evolving, cause we’ve talked about these, did you see the story? And I forgot to shoot it across that apparently they are, uh, that are breaking down Chaz. Uh, finally apparently the, uh, the police department out in, uh, in Washington state has said, okay, we’re done this. This was a cute little experiment, but it’s time for it all to come down
And we are good to go. What is going on? Welcome to episode 352 of the IT in the D show. We are broadcasting live. Bob, can we let’s do one real quick guys. We’re not doing anything scary. This week. Fred Brown is not allowed near this broadcast. I am not staying up until one in the morning. Having conversations with freaked out people. Again, we are broadcasting live from the podcast. He trade autonomous zone here in beautiful betray, Michigan, probably sales guy that the Twitter is doing. The Twitter is find us online@itinthed.com. I don’t know why, because we are it in the D and you still are not even with a pandemic going on. You’re still planting a garden by putting top soil over a grass with styrofoam Cox. It’s a Turrell what’s going on. This is world. This is the world we live in. Are they just doing things to humor me right now? I say, dude, we are in season four of whatever show that we’re all on. And the writers are all trying to get fired so they can move on to better projects. And they’re just making shit up. As they go along. The park is sitting on their hands, trying to release this Chaz episode. They have to, Oh, they are dying. Hey, before we do that, let me go ahead and fire. When ready are you firing? When ready? Now you can carry on. I can’t dude, just watching what’s going on in Seattle. I can’t stop laughing. It’s like, this is a human South park episode. Come to life. This is the onion and Babylon be in the cell park. All had a baby. And do that now, like bikers, like, did anything happen with the bikers that were going out there today? I didn’t know if it was, I don’t like talking about this stuff. I don’t know if it’s real or not. Cause you’re like blinkers are on route and I’m like, Oh, I want to see this. This is like a put paper view on man. This is solved the nationals who doesn’t want to see that? Oh, that would be amazing. I’m not going to lie. You haven’t figured out what’s going on. It’s like there, they be like occupied as six block territory of Seattle and they, and to go against the injustices of the world, they’ve done the same thing. The U S does by building. The very first thing they did was built a wall with checkpoints and our guards fight the power. Apparently there’s some rogue, independent rapper with his entourage. It’s like beating the shit out of why isn’t this a movie like you wouldn’t pay 20 bucks a day to watch the cameras in there. We are living that’s that’s the dude, whoever created black mirror, season six, the fully immersive experience is just a goddamn genius. Like that’s, that’s the only thing I that’s the only way I describe what the hell is going on right now. Mark Burnett. You cancel cops. You don’t give me chance. Come on. Like Howard, do there’s gotta be life. I actually, now that you said that there’s gotta be live feed somewhere. Like there has to be, no, they don’t like there. I was watching something from Steven Crowder and it’s like some guy who was like, Oh, he’s on the scene. Um, and they, like, they took him and beat the shit out of him in and interrogation tent and wanted to see his film. Cause they thought he was a conservative pundit. Um, so there’s like actually 10 and I don’t know if they’re full of shit or not, or making stuff up. You know what I mean? Like, that’d be a 10 ton homo Bay. That’s the thing with these tweets. Like you don’t know if they’re like, like when, when the tweak you wanted to date to, they ran out of food. Cause the homeless people storm the tent. Well, and then you’ve got Fox news using, um, conflated images where they’re like they’re Photoshopping multiple images together to try to paint the situation is worse than it really is. So that’s not helping. So I don’t know what’s going on. I mean basically what the guy said was, uh, well, yeah. Then you also have MSNBC saying, well it’s a street fair. And like, basically it’s not a street fair. I mean they took over sitting on the police station. Well, they didn’t take over city hall. They did. They did take over the police station that the cops pulled out of. Um, yeah, I do that. That’s literally one of those stories that I like, I don’t know what to make of it. Like I, like, I want a movie I will. And you know, dude, Netflix and Hulu are probably both offering just giant bags of money right now to whoever to get film crews in there, you know, to, to get the inside scoop and get a documentary rolling like they did with fire festival. Um, it’s I it’s, it does. I mean like, like if you look at like some posts, it seems like it’s like, I haven’t seen anything like that since a grateful dead concert. And then you look at some posts and it’s like mad max. Like I don’t, I don’t know which to buy into. My favorite line I saw was it was like, it was like a Lollapalooza 92. Those kids finally had kids and they’re there and they grew up hearing all the stories and decided to go ahead and do it. Nice. It’s so stupid. Like, it really was like, like after like day four and they’re like, what are we doing now? I dunno, got any pot what’s going on? And then it’s like burning man. Like all the burning man, people at night. And what are you going to do when you run out of stuff? Because now you’ve got no, cause now you’ve got all the truckers that are saying, I ain’t going in. There are those gardens real. They can’t be real. It’s like, did you see it? And it’s like an eight foot by eight foot. It’s like, they just dumped like six bags on the grass, like playing in it. Like it’s going to be my garden, man. The Brando plant’s grave. Anyway, straps cameras on people like, seriously, you want to, you want to make money? It’s like the George Carlin bit like the mass murders, the square States. Yeah. You fence off all the square States and yeah, Seattle colon Chaz would be the number one show on all of us law and order Chaz rapper ever. I see Wiz Khalifa or whatever. They’ll think Rapper’s name. And it took over the town. All, I don’t see do it. I got nothing. He’s like the judge and they bring everybody in front of him and he’s taking him to Detroit or whatever. I don’t even know where the, you know, I can’t say I don’t mean, I honestly don’t mean to laugh because the, this whole thing was, was built on good intention. I think, I think I want to think not to bring it back to reality, but like there was like, things are starting to happen. Change is starting to happen. And like, but now the ban hammer has gotten a little crazy. I think, um, now you want to cancel cops, which did get canceled and then you cancel live PD and then, and then like, is, did pop patrol get canceled or no, they were, people were lobbying for it, but there’s no. All right. It’s one of those. No, no, no, that people weren’t. It was like two persons were two people on Twitter and it became a Buzzfeed article. Yeah. And then everyone, now everyone talks about, they wanted to ban puppet show, but like, do you like cops was the wa like, I guess I’m wrong. Cops was the one show that I sent will be on until the end of time, because you’ll never have a shortage of dumb people. And apparently I get, I don’t get my fix. No. And like, I understand. So like live PD apparently had an issue where they did film a really, really bad situation. Um, and you know, but like, and, and it is, I mean, I, I understand some of the sentiment, but like now they’re coming after like law and order and they’re coming after, you know, those franchises and that kind of stuff, because they say they, they glorify the police and okay. Anybody who’s ever watched law and order knows that’s not true. I mean, you’ve had cops with drug issues. You’ve had cops, you know, that have been raped. You’ve had cops that have been kicked off the force. You’ve had, you know, DA’s that have been, you know, killed. You’ve had, I mean, it’s, it, it, no, that’s, that’s not what that show is. Like. I think that’s gone with the wind and they have to dump Andy Griffith show. Now, like how far back we go on with this? Well, and so, you know, and we’ve kinda, you know, somewhat joked about this before, but I mean, it’s, it is kind of a real thing. So, you know, Amazon’s talking about pulling the Dukes of hazard, but yet the Jefferson’s is still on the air with George calling everybody honky, you know, so, I mean, is it, you, it it’s, you know, it’s, again, it’s looking for balance. That was the goddamn state flag and, uh, up until, well, how many years ago? Oh, Georgia. Yeah. Yes. Remember that one car that they got all pissy about or like, um, that was the state flag down in those years. Uh, so what do you, what do you, how far are you going to go with this? You know, well, and it’s, you know, and I get it and, and I think a lot of people, you know, like I was talking about it with like, you know, the Christopher Columbus statue getting pulled down and a lot of the, and a lot of the Confederate statues coming down and that kind of stuff. And he’s like, Oh, it’s a racing history. No, it’s not like the history is still there. It’s erasing a monument to dumb shit. Like, like why do you have a statue of a Confederate general in your town center? Here’s a good years ago. It’s on part of obviously lots of the German community. And all of them are talking about how the differences are between keeping Auschwitz up as a Memorial versus bringing, like having generally on a statue. Right. One is to remind people of the atrocities that occurred. They are not, shearing are heralding. There’s nothing to that. Right. Where I think the difference is a lot of these Confederate statues is, um, that they’re, that people view them as heroes. Correct. They’re there, you’re not, you know, the, the, the things that Amish fits in well, and there’s a difference between like an Auschwitz or like the Gettysburg cemetery or, you know, something like that. I don’t see any German statues of Heinrich Himmler. Exactly. Yeah. There’s yeah. Like there’s, yeah. There’s no statues to Himmler or Hitler or anything like that floating around. Um, you know, it’s, it is, I mean, it’s, you know, you look back and you, and especially when you realize that, I mean, the quote, unquote Confederacy only lasted just barely five years. Like it wasn’t like a long period of time in history when that succession happened and it got shut down, you know, like how did it be like, like anyway and not to get to, to go, no. How did they, like from it became state flags. And then all of a sudden it became like the cry of the rednecks. And it became certainly the reality is, I mean, you know, a lot of things are NASCAR and do it in the South. Like, so like I grew up in Virginia and, and, and things are taught like the civil war is not the civil war in the South. It’s the war of Northern aggression in schools. Um, and there are different names for battlefields that are, you know, that are taught, uh, and that kind of stuff. I mean, it, it really is a huge thing. And cause even though the Confederacy itself only lasted five years, what people tend to, I think romanticize is the, I guess for lack of a, for the first word that comes to mind is the antebellum, you know, lifestyle, you know, the, the gentlemen and like the good parts have gone with the wind minus, you know, the slavery and beatings and lynchings and killings and all that stuff. That was like my favorite book. What about all the good things Hitler, right? Yeah. You had the trains. It was great. Uh, but I mean, but no, I mean it’s the, the sad reality is, is people, you know, people romanticized certain facets of that era and, and it became a Confederate pride thing. Uh, and, and so that’s why, you know, the dude that like the South will rise again. You’ll still see that, you know, if, if you drive around, you know, we’re like, I don’t understand people in say Michigan flying them. Cause Michigan, wasn’t a Confederate state and you’ve lived here your whole life and you’ve got a Confederate flag. Nah, you’re just a redneck racist. That’s all. That is a, I mean, you got a lot of people that like their families, like their dads or their grandpas came from the South. Like I remember, um, I remember when Bubba passed and that was like part of his Memorial and that was what four or five years ago. And I joked back then and I go, everyone take a picture and I would go, Oh, no, you were like, no, no, no, no, no. I’m not having my picture taken in front of them. Nobody. I mean, it’s, it’s real. And I mean, it’s, you know, and, and so the, it it’s weird. I mean, I can’t say that I fully understand it. I mean, I grew up around that a little bit. Um, and I have friends that, you know, that were deeply entrenched in it. Um, but it, it never made sense to me. I mean, that’s why I love the, you know, everybody’s worried about, you know, the, you know, they’re not, you know, they’re not doing this and NASCAR, they’re not doing that. And NASCAR. Yeah. Don’t worry. The, uh, the real Confederate flag will still fly in that final lap when they’re waving the white flag for the final lap notification. I mean, that was the funny thing. It’s like, I don’t even watch NASCAR enough to know that that was a thing. So like they’re banning and I’m like, I didn’t know. They were even there so well, so, and it dude, and honestly, so there’s, there’s like something to keep in mind and it’s, and it’s a real powerful message that’s going to right. And we’re going around right now is that of all of the sports NASCAR has come out, banned the Confederate flag, fired a driver for using the N word when yelling at somebody and has, and has, and again has taken all these steps. No, do that. Yes. We had to Google who you were. Oh, that one guy. Yes. No, that was absolutely real. I don’t think so. I looked for it and couldn’t find it. It was so, I mean, that was a guy here that he had been yeah. Had never won a race and yet it was a total idiot. Yeah. But well, but he wasn’t the one, he wasn’t the one that got he, wasn’t the one that got fired. He’s the one that just quit and nobody cared because, well, you’ve never done anything. Um, but no, it’s like, they’ve, they’ve gone out of their way. That’s NASCAR, like the most redneck easiest, like Southern entrenched sport in the nation. What are you doing? NFL NBA, NHL, you know, like it’s, you know, if they can take such a hard line stance on this, where the hell are you during all This ever seen? I don’t, I don’t know. I’ve never been to a game down at NFL game down South. I couldn’t imagine maybe tailgating, but it’s not part of the, see the problem with NASCAR is the fans are in the S in the middle. I’ve heard of the game, like when you’re tailgating or not part of the game in the NFL. Right. So I think maybe that’s, you know, gotcha. Then the tailgating is all done in private property. So it’s, you can’t really mandate anything, you know, you can’t, you’re not going to let flags in the arena and there’s none in the arena. So, I mean, that’s kinda, um, but kind of on a, on an it front, a lot of people are already complaining about it. Not knowing what’s going on. If you haven’t read, uh, it’s on digital attack, map.com, but the U S is under a huge DDLs attack right now. And like 15 major cell carriers, um, are all kind of went poopy. Um, the problem is when you went to that, um, when I sent you that map, David starts at like 2014. So you get a fast forward, Like when you click play. Yeah. So like U S is getting slammed right now. Um, pretty much every major Carrier now is reporting huge outages, sell, sell, even with Verizon’s little press release. I thought that was cute. No, no, no. Everybody other carriers are reporting outages, but not us, but no. I’ve seen people with Verizon that are reporting issues. So I had a friend that called the T-Mobile store and what they told him was that they tried to fire up their five G network and things went haywire and that it would take like two weeks to straighten out. Which one would you want your store telling people that I would obviously turn it back off, turn it back off. That’s where I learned from it. You roll that back from production. I learned that from, I learned what was going on from brick. 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So of course, one of the guys, he’s our, he’s our peer storage engineer. He’s like, what the hell? He’s like 34. He’s like, what the hell is that? Like, it’s flash Gordon. He goes, I don’t know what that means. So I started dropping YouTube clips and they’re like, this is the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen it. I’ve got this huge semantic argument about how flash Gordon is one of the greatest movies ever. And he tried to tell me no. And he think he, I think he knows he’s getting me fired up. Right. It’s easy to do. But, um, I think, uh, I think I got one of my hands. Will you, uh, you, you hated joker. I didn’t hate it. I just said it sucked. And so, okay. So here’s my issues with it. So if you haven’t seen joker tune out for a minute or two, cause we’re going to get a little deep, um, here’s my problem. It was essentially the series finale of st. Elsewhere, uh, as directed by M night Shyamalan. Uh, and it wasn’t complete. It was completely predictable. As soon as the scene happened with the girl down the hall, not knowing who the hell he was. I knew exactly how that movie was ending. And I’ve had, I even said to myself, please, God, let this not be how they’re going to end this movie and sure as shit, that’s how they ended the movie like that. Like that entire movie, essentially being a dream sequence, um, kiss my ass like that. And this is what this, yeah, it was, and this is why DC sucks. And this is why DC, To me, it was American psycho ending where you didn’t know if, you know, he was in prison, then got moved over to Arkham and he did all that shit. Or if he dreamed it all up, like while he was going, like, you know what I mean? To me, that’s how it that’s the ending. It wasn’t necessarily, the whole entire thing was a dream sequence. It was interpreted like it could be, or it couldn’t have been, it could have been real, or it could have, could have been in his head or all, you know, to me it was American psycho. I knew that’s why I loved it. No, sorry. I know that ending can only lead in my opinion to the conclusion that the entire thing was in his head. Um, you know, just whether it’s the, the interactions with the girl that weren’t there, or, you know, like the other stuff that didn’t have. I mean, it’s, it’s, there’s just, no, that is not what that movie should have been. And, and especially after like I did, I liked dude, I thought Aquaman was a great flick. Um, I thought, you know, when Roman was a little long, but it was a good flick. Um, I have high hopes for wonder woman, 84 kind of redeeming it mostly cause I’m looking forward to the soundtrack. Um, but you know, and, and Shizam was good. And, you know, dude, you can’t take a character that has had such buildup like the joker, you know, whether it, you know, from, you know, Nicholson to, you know, Heath ledger and all that stuff and do that to that character. No, like, I, I, that was such a waste of a movie that was a bigger waste of a movie than suicide squad. I, that was, that was terrible. I’m not going to watch it because they just introduced a major renovation of the joker and then completely ignored it. This new joker isn’t related to any other DC movie they have out, there you go. What’s the point. Like I just watched Aqua man this weekend and I thought it was too cliche. Well, how do you think this? How was this joke or not related to any joke or they showed it was Batman origin, Which Batman? I don’t know the, was it the Well, so there’s the no, so Robert Pattinson, Batman. Yeah. Well, and that’s the thing, you know, cause he had, did show, you know, the well, but again, Is it because that was all in his head? Well, I mean, does it or see here’s that’s me. I thought he got thrown into prison when he was, you know, during that whole riot, after the right things, he got thrown into prison and then, you know, so some of it was in his, like, as he was progressing, some of it was in his head. Some of it was, but so how can The riot thing have happened if none of the predicate things were real? Because if not, It wasn’t, I dunno, it was hopping in and out. Yeah. Sorry. I thought it was pretty awesome. It was an awesome watch. And again, if you watch it, like I do with wrestling now, like watch it, like you’re a 12 year old, like granted his, a deeper twelve-year-old, but you know what I mean? I just did. I, did I enjoy it? I enjoyed it for being a different story. Like it wasn’t what I expected at all, which was another reason why I liked it. Um, I don’t know. Well, that’s a totally, like I had heard, like I heard it was dark and I heard it, you know, a lot, you know, in, in, you know, it was a lot of mental stuff and, and that kind of thing, but I still didn’t do it. I didn’t have any expectations walking into it other than God. I hope this is a good movie. Um, And I’m sorry. I think here’s the thing. Like we watched, you know, me and you are entertained by two different things, like right. You watch law and order and pay attention. Um, I watch wrestling and go and burp, like, you know what I mean? Like we, we watched TV and movies for two different reasons. I enjoy, you know, dumb and dumber 73 times, Dude, I’m a dude. I love brain candy. Like I, you know, I’m, I, you know, dude, I’m all about you. My, my taste in TV and movies is not that different than my taste in music. I, I love bubblegum pop, like give me, you know, did I, I can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched looser for, or, you know, or I’ve watched, you know, any of the other, you know, dumb shows that are out there. Cause I’m going back and watching those instead of watching anything new. Cause I don’t have faith in anything new. Um, but it’s, I, yeah, like I said, I mean just for me, Like from, if you look at it as if you look at it as America, like I looked at it as a parallel for American psycho, like literally you did like what Patrick Bateman, did he really think he was this assassin? Or was he killing people? And no one believed him because he was as wall street, hot shot. Like, you know what I mean? Like, like it, but like in his head he’s killing people while he’s going about his job as a hedge fund manager. Right. That’s kind of what I, that’s kind of what joker was to meet in parallel almost, almost like they ripped off the same story. See, and to me it was a two hour plus version of the five, second vignettes inside of true lies when Arnold Schwarzenegger would have those very vivid dreams of like punching Chet in the face and that kind of stuff. Like it was basically that for two plus hours and, and no shit forever and he’ll, he will always be chat. Um, but no, so I mean, yeah, so like I said, I’m, I hard, hard, hard pass. Um, and, and okay. So, and speaking, cause I did, I watched it cause it was on HBO. I just, when I thought I had the whole HBO go HBO now, HBO, max, HBO, Osho, HBO, like I thought I had that all figured out, you know, they changed everything again. And I want, I do, I want whoever is in charge of this shit. I want them on this show and I want them on this show when we are back in the studio so I can break distancing guidelines and slap them. No, I, I, I want a Jeff Haas slap. They, um, my, of course you get my kid hooked on loony tunes and then I can’t log into max anymore. Why not? They were pretty funny now it’s $15 a month, but I thought, okay, so again, so here’s free for infinity subscribers. Right. And I have HBO and it’s not now and now it’s not. Okay. So it was, it was supposed to be so like maybe I did something wrong because was so yeah. Cause so HBO go is now going and, and, and being replaced with HBO. Max HBO now is staying as like the add on for like Hulu users and people that are Amazon prime members that just want to get it that way. But I thought the whole point was HBO go basically was transitioning into HBO max, where if you had the subscription, it was just going to go ahead and carry forward. You know what the people, uh, I think the same salespeople that are working on COVID with the news or working on HBO. Oh shit. They can’t explain shit. Master good master bad master. Good master, bad master. Good master, bad master. Good. Okay. Speaking of which, we talked about, my one concert got canceled entirely, which I’m sad about my other one got moved to April next year. Um, did you see what the flaming lips are doing? I thought that was hilarious. That was, that was amazing. I thought it was the onion again and it’s not, um, they’re basically they’re performing. I mean, wasn’t it, the daily show that showed it Cole bear area. Um, there there’s basically four. Like it’s all I swear to God boy in the bubble with John, Travolta’s becoming modern, modern art. You can buy it. So I’ve, I’ve actually thought about buying those giant hamster balls. Like you can buy them off Amazon and I’ve legit thought about buying them just to have a couple in the pool. Um, and see what hilarious, when they’re sitting in these things, don’t you fall on your ass? Like they’re not stable. Like no. And you have to be very careful when you walk, because that’s the thing is like, once you start stepping forward, then your back foot starts getting lifted up. And it’s, it’s a whole, like I’m looking at the picture and the crowd there’s like, they allowed like 12 people in a crowd that can fit a thousand. Cause they got these goddamned bubbles in on. And like you can’t move. Where do you pee? Like nice shout, shout out to Ian who just said, forget it. Just rename everything HB know. And again, like what happens if the guy’s on stage and he’s singing, then he wants a bottle of sip of water and he’s got a key. Like he can’t do nothing. You’re stuck in his goddamn John Travolta dude. I don’t even, yeah. I don’t even know, although horrible, although where you’re probably gonna want. One of those is if you’re planning on going to Jami Neuner, cause apparently they’ve said to hell with everything we’re having Javi Nooner anyway, shabby, Nooner, if you’ve never, that’s the biggest cesspool of, I remember the good old days when the worst thing you were worried about catching a job, Nooner was, you know, crabs. There’s nothing worse than going out into the, into like four foot of water. And there’s like 15 dudes with their arms crossed, just staring at you and you all know and you know, they’re all paying every, not a minimum. Cause like no one goes out like to waste deeper water for no reason. And they all come out there, like The kind of conversation you continue to shop. So yeah. So, uh, so not, not that it’s been real high on my social calendar, uh, for the past, you know, I don’t know decade anyway. Uh, but yeah, hard, hard pass on, on Javi Nooner for me again. Yeah. So in some, uh, in some Detroit news, um, what’s going on with project Greenlight, that was kind of a, I thought that was a successful project. It is. Uh, so, and we’ve talked about it on the show before where the, one of the issues with any facial recognition system in general, and this is why you’ve seen, uh, like Microsoft and IBM have both announced, they’re getting out of facial recognition technology. Um, one of the issues is the enormously high rate of false positives, uh, when it comes to people of color. Like, so basically if you’re white, you’re going to be all right when it comes to facial recognition software, um, if you are not, it is as high as I believe, a 70% false positive rate, uh, using facial recognition. Oh, absolutely. So the entire point of it is so it’s, it’s all, you know, and we’ve all seen him if you’ve been downtown, you know, if there’s a green light out front, they’ve got security cameras and stuff that are hooked into the central police department. And so, and this was, and again, we’ve talked about this on the show before the big complaint about it was the use of facial recognition technology. Um, and when are they using it and how are they using it? And, and, and that kind of stuff, because, you know, essentially if it’s on 24 seven, then you’re constantly under surveillance and, you know, the, the DPD came out and said, no, we only turn it on. You know, we only turn it on when it, you know, we get an alert from, um, you know, one of the participating business owners that there’s been a crime and then we activate it and everybody kind of went yeah, right on. So, but this, to your point, this, this whole conversation comes this whole conversation Project Greenlight is that it’s paid a play. Like Sure, you can have security if the police will respond to you, you know, if you pay. Right. So, but so to your point, uh, the reason why he brought this up and the reason why it was on our story list this week is, uh, so the, uh, you know, the protesters, uh, the organizers of the protests and stuff downtown, you know, sat down and met, uh, and had a meeting with, you know, the powers that be, uh, and I believe number two, uh, on their list of demands was get rid of project Greenlight. And a lot of business owners have come out and said, uh, no, uh, because you know, it has helped them increase safety. It has helped them, you know, make their customers feel more safe and help their customers feel more secure and help their employees feel more safe and secure. Um, and so they want it to continue. Uh, so I mean, it’s, it’s going to be an interesting situation to see how that shakes out. Well, you know, my feelings on this crap when it first started, right. I’m like new. Um, and then it gets implemented and then the business owners are like, okay, Hey, you know, what’s the number 23%. Um, crime is down at their establishments. And some of, some of those places go through absolute health, um, trying to serve the public. So, I mean, um, so part of me is like, you know, you know, how do you know it’s not one of those things, how does democracy diet with thunderous applause, right? We’re not, I don’t think we’re there yet having private cameras, private group, private it’s private businesses, far as I’m concerned, it’s surveillance at private business. So I’m, I’m completely fine with that. What are, you know, um, I mean, if you think about it, it is a Very small step beyond us having nest cams in our studios and calling nine one one, if something happens and turning over the footage, it is, it is simply one step further where you have that connection with the police department to be able to instantly transmit them stuff and give them access to your, you know, to that feed and that kind of stuff, because it’s, you know, cameras under their control. Um, so I mean, I, I get it and, but I do, I mean, I, like I said, with the enormously high, false positive rate, I understand the concerns about it. I absolutely do, you know, in a city, you know, depending on which stat you want to listen to 80 to 83% African American, um, you know, it’s, that’s a problem like that. You know, that that’s a huge, I mean, that puts a lot of people at risk, especially in this day and age, That was always the problem. Like, uh, when they had the, uh, the blinking, uh, w with cameras, with like Asians, there was always, there was an issue. It always seems like some of the, so always something with these technologies is always an issue with some someone’s ethnicity. Right. Whether it was that, you know, do you remember that? Or no. Yes. Uh, and then, you know, like, yeah, the facial recognition thing, like, you know, that, yeah. I think that’s the crux, that’s the crux of this whole entire thing is, you know, he matches the description to the use so loosely. Right. Um, which, which, you know, And just for what it’s worth, uh, shout out to, uh, Greg Walters, he’s watching, um, and he had commented that there were plenty of live streams. And I said, Hey, we’d love to see a few links. And so he’s actually throwing links in, into the chat on this video, if you want to catch him later. Yeah, I totally will. Um, so you know what, uh, my favorite, you know, I think this is, uh, if this was Chinese new year, I think 2020 should be the year of the glory hole. I think we should promote that. I think we should make t-shirts. Um, I think this should be a no. So here’s the, this is the, this is how weird this year has gotten, um, the New York city department of health. Um, that’s the best tweet by the way, uh, the New York city department of health encouraging Gloria hosels, not on my 2020 bingo apocalypse bingo card. Nope, absolutely. Was not. Um, and I want to read this for beta, because I think this is hysterical. Um, this is from the department of health. This is not from like Metro to, this is not the onion. This is not even, it’s not even like the Metro times or like New York post or some rag, right. This is a big New York city department of health. Um, make it a little kinky, be creative with sexual positions and physical barriers, like walls that allow sexual contact while preventing close face to face contact. So in essence, a glory hole and a that’s supposed to kill COVID Randy. Um, your thoughts, it’s not going to kill COVID, it’s going to prevent the spread of prevent. Is it though? Did you hear what you hear? What they’re saying? What I’m saying, it’s not going to prevent it. How is it going to prevent it? So I can’t, I can do this in your mouth, but I can’t coffin it. See you’re safe. Hooray. I mean, it is trans, uh, transmitted by respiratory fluids. So if you’re not breathing in breathing out this whole thing this whole year is it’s a throwaway year. It’s so Stupid. Well, and, uh, and keep in mind if you pay attention to the latest conspiracy theorists, the world’s might be the world might be ending on Thursday. Uh, cause apparently they read the, the, the Mayan calendar interpretation. Uh, apparently there’s a thing with the changeover from, uh, to the Gregorian calendar and you add it last AIDS law basically lost eight days a year. And so you add up that number of years and basically the mine, the December 12th, 20, or December 12th, 2012 is now Thursday. Awesome. I’ll see you on the other side. Um, speaking of New York, this is actually newer post and this is a problem going on right now without bars and restaurants and public places being open. Um, there’s no place to take a piss in New York. And so now people are just whipping it out other than the streets and then peeing everywhere. Um, you know, the basically there’s drink windows selling to go cocktails all over the city. Right. Which is fine. But now where do I make PP? And there’s, there’s nowhere to go. Um, basically those as the story says, coworker saw some guy just coming down the street and pulling his pants down to pee. And she was like, nah, not here, man. They actually quoted that as an actual quote, brilliant journalism these days at the New York post. Um, but that’s been an uptake on the street. Most people, um, like go in a corner or I’ve like friends opened their jacket to cover them up. Um, like basically there’s, uh, you know, I mean, back in the day there was to say, you know, bathrooms are for public or customers only right now. They don’t even have them anyway. Well, yeah, cause they’ve got them locked, but well, cause, and that’s the thing, like, I don’t know if you’ve been paying attention to like all the regulations are coming that are coming out, you know, or that came out for like, you know, bars and restaurants opening. Um, I’ve got two friends that own tattoo shops, a tattoo and piercing shops. And dude like the regulations that came out for them are just absolutely overbearingly, insane. Like I understand what they’re trying to do, but you know, I understand why a lot of places are going, nah, we’re not opening yet new. I could See, I could see for a tattoo parlor. Right. But I like a bar has got almost be as clean as like a fricking surgical Florida hospital. Like it’s this stuff that they’re making them is So over and above Well, or let’s be real, the stuff that they’re supposed to be doing. Like, you know, I was talking to a mutual friend of ours cause I don’t wanna put him on blast, but a mutual friend of ours worked a shift on Saturday. Um, you know, and he, you know, basically said, you know, it was a slow, uh, B even when it got busy, um, you know, people weren’t tipping at well at all. Um, he had at least one walkout on a tab, uh, and he said at one point the door guy looked at him and said, Hey, I’m just going to start letting people in without mass. Cause I just turned away seven people and he was like, Oh hell no, you’re not like, no, no don’t do that. Like, that’s the point of see the thing I don’t get as you walk in with a mask and then you instantly take it off. Well, no, you can take it off. No. So that’s, that’s again, you’re allowed to take it off while you are seated. If you like get up to go to the bathroom, you’re supposed to put it back on. If you’re it it’s exactly. And we, and they wonder, and they wonder why, why, why, why we getting like really like, I can have it off here, but not there. Yeah. And you know, if you’re up and walking around, you are more likely to come in contact with other people outside of your party. Um, and that’s what they’re trying to do is, is, you know, basically limit contact, you know, and it’s, it’s like I said, you know, one of the reasons why, you know, the studio openings got delayed, um, was cause I’ve got, uh, those no touch, uh, you know, infrared thermometers on order and they got delayed. Um, and now they’re going to be here on a Wednesday and I mean, cards on table. I’m not going to lie. That is, I truly believe that that is far more of a touchy feely PR move than it is anything else. Because I mean, you don’t have to have a temperature. I mean, you can be completely asymptomatic and still have it. You can have a temperature, like you can just naturally burn hot and it’s not an issue you could have just like a normal cold and have a fever and it’s not Corona. Um, so I mean, there’s, there’s a lot of, but you know, but heaven forbid we don’t have that in the studios and somebody hops on, you know, Facebook or Twitter or Instagram poke is truly, isn’t doing anything to protect people. Cause you know, that’ll happen. That that’ll be the next thing that happens. That was, that was the thing I was making fun of people at work today. They started installing hockey glass between tables. Like, you know how we sit at like six foot tables, right? Like Ikea tables. And there’s just hockey glass between the tables, what the chairs are. There’s no separation between the people in the chair. So that was like us going to a hockey game. Are you banging on the glass and like chanting at the other people like imagine like glasses on the table, but you can, you can literally put your arm out and touch the person next to you. Right. So of course the guys that are like, they should have their own podcasts. They’re hysterical. I listened to them all day and I’m like, Oh nice hockey glass. I’m helping because they know, right. They’re like, Oh yeah, look, I can just touch Them. You know? Um, well, and that’s the thing. I mean, it’s, I, you know, it’s kinda like the whole Chaz thing. Like I want to believe that all of these rules and regulations are coming from a good place, but it’s just not entirely logical. It, it, to me, it’s just screams of, I don’t want to be public. I don’t want to be on a public freakout video on YouTube and you know, because I am helping, you know, I got my crocheted mascot and Alyssa Milano look, look at me, I’m doing my part. Like it’s, it’s, it’s, I’m doing my part. Are you, we get to become Starship troopers. Like literally this is, this whole year has been like one dystopian movie gone to hell. Oh for sure. Well and contributing to it. I mean, here’s the other downside, you know, especially, you know, with, with so many issues and everything else that people are dealing with over the last three months. Um, you know, so you’ve got the Michigan unemployment agency that’s dealing with, you know, originally they had flagged, I believe they said 340,000 accounts, uh, that is now up to 400,000, uh, that they flagged for being fraudulent and issued stop payments on. And I’ve seen like a lot of friends that are saying that their accounts are one of those ones that are flagged and there’s no, like there’s no way to get in contact with them. Like you’re still on hold forever. You’re still, you know, you can’t get through to somebody to actually like make this go away. And you know, and some people have had it like there for like weeks now. And I mean, and that’s, that’s a huge issue if like, if that’s your only, like, if that’s your lifeline right now, you’re screwed. Yeah, no, it’s good. You know, you’re exactly right. Again. Uh, I, I can’t, you know, I can’t imagine like, here’s the thing, you, you, you have a complete spectrum of people, half of them going, I don’t give a shit and the other half going protect me, save me, public shame, everyone things. Right. And there’s, there’s really, there’s not much, I don’t know. I don’t want to say I’m in between. I’m kind of in between about it. When I go out, I’m safe. I don’t go out that much, but when I do I’m safe. And then for the most part, I’m keeping myself and, you know, um, you know, but I’m not shaming anyone. If I see someone at the store, I’m not going to be like Nicky chill, I’m pulling out my phone and I’m going to post it Well. So, and actually, so there’s a good question. And I was hanging out with the, uh, the tales from the bar side curlier, um, and Remi had gone out, uh, he went out to a bar, uh, this weekend, um, and Lauren is kind of in the same boat I am or like, no, I’m cool. I’m going to wait. So like, you know, yeah. I mean, like I’ve noticed, you know, you’ve been out and checked in at a couple places on Facebook. Like, so what was like, what was the trigger for you that said, Hey, and, and you said you were, you know, you were traveling with, you know, bow and mags. Like, what was the, what was the trigger for you that said, okay, I’m feeling comfortable and safe enough that I’m going to go hit a couple of places That wasn’t a restaurant. That was a takeout window. Oh, okay. I eat my car. Oh, okay. Yeah. There’s picnic tables. It was Doug’s di it was duck delight. And that, uh, that Italian beef stand. Oh, didn’t you didn’t you hit second Base. I did. Okay. Um, yeah, just, you know, And how, like, I’m just curious, like, how did I, I have yet to be in a bar? Like, what was it like? Uh, there was the same two guys that are always there on the right. And there was like four people on the left besides us. Um, and that was, and it was dead quiet. So everybody’s sitting at, like, everybody’s sitting at the bar, is it no bar seating and the table. Okay. Just curious Three tables set up. Um, yeah. You know, I was in there for, you know, piece of pizza and a couple of pops got out. Well, no, I’m just curious. Cause like I know like Detroit shipping company, like they’re getting ready to reopen and they’re basically converting everything to outdoor seating, like, and they basically said, Hey, you know, you’re not going to be able to walk up to the bar and grab a drink. Um, there’s, you know, it’s, it’s basically the inside is going to be open to go to the bathrooms. Uh, everything else is going to be like tableside service. Like, you know, somebody will come take your order for food, somebody who could take your order for drinks and that kind of stuff. Um, at one of the outdoor tables sent me, I’m just, I’m, I’m curious, like, as I’ve, as I’ve heard of people going out, I’m just trying to, you know, me, I’m collecting data points and just trying to figure it out. No, I think, I think it’s a sliding scale as well. Like I just told you, like other people are treating it versus the restaurant. Like some of them are being super precautious about the dive bars, the dive bars don’t give a shit. I’m like, I don’t, you know, I haven’t been to, I don’t know what profession, you will never find a group of people who do not give a shit about the coronavirus more so than walking into a smoke shop. I’m just saying like that. Right. That’s what I’m saying. Like know, And you know, like, you know, again, people kind of, you know, there’s a, there’s a couple of people at work that are like single guys that usually everyday go to the gym and they like, and have a drink once in a while. Right? Like they’ve run out of shit to watch. They’re starting to go stir crazy. They’re working. I mean, I had one guy work a hundred hours last week, rebuilding DFS, because cause, cause that does, what else, what else? Right. I got nothing, you know, he goes out for a run like six in the morning and that’s about, that’s all he has besides being on teams with us. And then, you know, so he’s like F it I’m just rebuilding, you know, rebuild. It took me to SUNY on with a couple of other projects and rebuild a on prem DFS and then like, Okay, cool. It’s done. Like, wait, what’s done. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I got nothing else to do. What am I supposed to do? Um, I wanted to talk about a couple of things that I was kind of mad about too, that I totally forgot about. Apparently now Legos. Um, you can’t by the police station Legos. Do they, did they actually pull that or was that again, I’m one of those bullshit. I believe they pulled all of them, The advertising for them. I, and I think they requested, um, stores to pull them off their shelves, but did not mandate if I recall correctly. Oh, all right. Uh, um, Favorite stories, which just turn those into collector’s items. Just so we’re all clear. You don’t think I look up To go buy one that I’m going to sell it anytime, but you know what I mean? Yeah. One of my favorite stories this weekend, we have like 42 stories, like the liquidity, cause we didn’t get any last week. Yeah. I always like when hackers do do for the good of the public and apparently hackers jammed all those Chicago police scanners with chocolate rain dude, Which was amazing. Well, and we talked about this, I think two weeks ago where, um, one of the protests locations, somebody got ahold of one of the police radios and started playing NWA, uh, over, you know, over it. And so it doesn’t surprise me that this stuff goes on and more power to them. But so on, on the Corona vibe, did this story blew my freaking mind. I’m the guy that got coronavirus, um, was in the hospital and thankfully like he’s got insurance and like, you know, the government has all these programs out to help waive deductibles and that kind of stuff right now because of COVID. Um, yeah, his bill getting out of the hospital was a hundred and some odd pages long, one point $1 million Million. Um, I was, uh, I was showing that to my wife cause she’s in the medical field and I was going through the line by lines and I like the eyes. Well, the guy was seventies. So I mean, he was in and he was in ICU. So like, well, cause He was in an isolation unit as almost every COVID patient is like, I don’t, I don’t think that was like their do their, Oh, everybody that’s a COVID patient is essentially put into ICU. Cause they’re put into isolation rooms, ventilators and all that crap. By the time you’re getting admitted, you’re going into intensive care. I can’t find this story, but I want to say like every day it was like $9,600 For the room. Yeah. Another like another 1100 or $1,200 for the ventilator. Yeah. Oh, but yeah, one point $1 million. And I mean his out of pocket was zero, correct? Yes. I mean, the story got shared from everywhere thinking, Oh my God, Millie knows. But like, um, and you wonder why healthcare costs are going the way they are. Right. Just to be honest. Well, and so, I mean, that’s, you know, the other, I mean, that’s, you know, it’s been interesting, you know, in that same vein, you know, with all of the, you know, off premise, uh, like all the remote learning and all that stuff that’s been going on. Uh, so, you know, Frazier, uh, which is the school district I’m in, um, got approval to basically stay virtual, um, for all of next year for all grades. Um, which is going to be interesting to see how many people choose, um, an opt in to taking that route. The weird thing that went on this year was you, kids could opt for a greater credit that doesn’t affect their GPA. So interesting that most of the kids like had a couple of classes, which their GPA was based on that they were getting A’s in the rest of the classes. They just got credit. So if you have two classes, the 4.0, your grade point is a 4.0 and a, and literally like, this was, this is my, this has been me and my wife’s life for the last Month is every day. Um, your daughter has done 5% of her cover classes. She’s going to fail, blah, blah, blah. And then you go to your kid, it’s due the 12th dad, the up bucket. I’ve had those same conversations. Yeah. You have, you have 12% done. How are you going to get this shit done? Do the 12 dad quit like literally up til four in the morning, the night before and suddenly it’s all done and they did it and they need to ask you 30,000 questions while they’re doing it. Well, the, the, the weird thing was like, they had us doing Khan Academy, shit. It wasn’t even like schoolwork. It was just like stuff they found to make you do. Yeah. It wasn’t like, you know, but like literally they, like, I like, thank God those texts are gone. Cause like literally every day I would get a text. This is your so, and so’s teacher for this class and her kid’s failing, like, how are you failing? She’s failing. Like, and then it’s this whole back and forth like is a teacher full of Shinar? Are you right? Yeah. Who am I supposed to believe here? That’s the thing that’s going to happen. If they decide to go virtual all year at Frazier it’s the kids are going to not do shit until the stuff’s due. And then they’re going to cram it all in, in two days. And then, you know, learning like, you know what I mean? There’s gotta be some sort of mix or some sort of a, you gotta attend to the zoom class, like, Oh, Oh, that’s totally what, yeah. There’s, there’s still gonna be some of that. Um, Oh God, I can’t believe when we were talking about like pop patrol and that kind of stuff. So apparently they’re going to go back, uh, or actually they’re not going to go back, but they’re moving forward. Um, Elmer Fudd will no longer be carrying a gun on HBO, max. I don’t think there were many of him having a gun. And there was a, he was a pool runner. Yeah. It was scrubbed down. Really? One of the greatest, one of the greatest bugs bunny episodes of all time, the Leopold episode where the guy was Leopold. Yeah. The guy was coughing in the front row and he pulls out a six shooter, blows the guy away. Here’s the thing we grew up on that shit. We didn’t, we all knew the difference. We knew it was a cartoon and not real. We didn’t realize the racist undertones till we were like in her late. So those were some of the older ones let’s be clear. I mean, those were some of the, like the old Injun Joe and like, you know, the, the Jack and the Japanese guy. Yeah. Those, some of those. Yeah. But Hey dude, we were exposed to cross recipe. Dude. Bugs bunny was like the first cross-dresser I was ever exposed to. Right. There was nothing like it. Like, here’s the thing, like when you’re kids, you don’t care. Like that’s the one who like learn behavior and all that. I’m like, I didn’t go, I didn’t bomb anyone. Like, like that was the thing that sucked. I didn’t run upstairs and put on one of my mom’s dresses. Try to be bugs bunny. No. Yeah. The Wiley coyote road runner, there was like no dynamite. Oh yeah. They stopped showing the poof when he hits the bottom, you had a bunch of dynamite though. Was there? Yeah, like he was, uh, at the pool episode, uh, bugs, pretending he was a lifeguard and said no swimming without a buddy. So he, uh, gives a dynamite dummy to Elmer Fudd, Elmer floods grabs him and then he explodes. But what’s, I mean, Hey Randy, for the record, um, Greg chimed in and he’s having a flashback to the whole glory hole discussion, uh, he said, Hey, uh, it’s, it’s been found in semen as well. There’s something I never thought I would have to type screenshot that great, great moments with our members. We, we do what we can, you know, in, in these struggling times. No, that’s what I put, uh, the best response I sought of Elmer Fudd thing was obviously some tweet from somebody who said, I’m sure that Molotov cocktails and milkshakes and pellets of brick would be acceptable to placements being a Molotov cocktails. Did you see that? Uh, closed captioning transcription error where they put a mazel Tov cocktails? Oh my God. That was an amazing picture of the Orthodox Jewish guy. When I was reading the article about, uh, the U S military might be losing the trademark to a space force, Netflix series. Have you watched it? No. I still have not broken down into watched it yet. We, the Orville office is I like to call, um, it’s um, I don’t want to say it’s not good. It’s not what I expected. I’ve heard good things. I’ve heard some good things about like, you know, the problem is with these, with some of these actors is when they be, when they get a little bit too old, they become characters of themselves. Yes. Like, well, and some of them become caricatures of themselves. Yeah. That’s what I just said. Um, Oh, you said, you said characters. I didn’t know if you meant, like they were like here at characatures themselves. You know, like John Malcovich is in this any he’s like, he’s like, um, God, what’s the guy’s name that just got busted for all the porn in Hollywood. It’s like him doing Epstein. John. Malcovich not Epstein all of the actor that was in Kevin Spacey, Spacey thing. It’s like Spacey. It’s like Spacey doing Malcovich like, everything’s not [inaudible]. And it just it’s really it’s Eric doing? Walking. Eric does a good walking notes. It’s like a bad, it’s like a bad person. But like, um, corral is like always going to be corral from the office. Like, yeah. It’s just before the 40 year old Virgin. One of the two. Yeah. Right, right. And it’s not, I went into it wanting to like it. I still might like it again, but it’s like, it was just, it was a tough watch. It really is. Like you had to wait a half an hour for like a good one line. You expect it to be like yuck, yuck, like the office that you would think so. And it wasn’t, it was not the Orville office. All right. Hey, before we, before we roll, Hey, capital one knows life. Doesn’t alert you about your credit card. That’s why they created, you know, the capital one assistant that looks out for surprise credit card charges like over tipping, duplicate charges or potential fraud, then sends an alert to your phone and helps if you need to fix them another way, capital one is watching out for your money. When you’re not capital one, what’s in your wallet. See capital one.com for details. I always want to read the end, like really fast. Like the old micro machines guy have a little one, a little like another thing that went on, like we always talk about TV and crap. I was, I was, dorked like, nothing’s better than formula. If you’re a formula one fan at all. No. Like one out of a hundred races are in the rain. So like Sunday morning, soccer’s over. I flipped ESPN formula one and it’s in the rain and I’m gigged and I’m like sweet. And I’m texting Tulio. I’m guessing there’s a lot more crashes when that happens. Uh, no, it’s just, it just like with the mist and everything, it’s just really cool to watch. It was F in video game. They were televising it and they’re using it in like the cinematic view. So it looked cool. Like I got, literally I got angry. Like I want, you know, not that I want, I’m dying for sports to come back. You know, premier league guy, apparently it’s starting back this week. So I want to see how England is tackling it versus, uh, Germany with this, with the chance in the crowd. I’m hoping that they, uh, learn some tips, um, who does, Oh, Hey. Before I forget, uh, you were, we were talking about the whole space force thing. Um, the reason why the U S government will probably lose, um, any rights to it is that Netflix is smart. Um, and as soon as that project got greenlit, they filed all the trademarks, uh, everywhere for the words, space force. Um, and so, yeah, because why wouldn’t they, uh, and, and yeah, so we’ll, we’ll see how that plays out. That should be, that should be fun to watch. Can you declare eminent domain on a trademark? Well, who’s done space for us since Reagan anyway, or what did he call it? What did Reagan that was star Wars. That was star Wars. That was actually called star Wars. Did you see, what did the article I sent the movie called? Was it star scream? God bless it. Oh, no. You a star crash 1978. You through that. And I, I saw it like I it’s on Amazon prime if I recall correctly. Yes. So the reason I watched those under my recommended on YouTube, and some guys said that this movies, star Wars stole off this movie, but in actually in actuality, it’s reverse. I was like, yeah, well, cause he have it’s 78. That would be after star Wars. So, yeah. Right. So like, imagine like the it’s so bad. The count is like, from like a, a Mexican spectation station film, like Dracula, like that’s what he looks like. He was almost, um, like, it just it’s. So over the top then there’s David Hasselhoff is the, is the hand solo. Um, the guy that the guy that’s playing Luke is like the greatest American hero, but if he was a meth head, um, and then the princess Leia is like Barbarella, like Playboy playmate and Barbara Allah clothes. And like, it’s so bad. Like the opening, the opening scene is like a crawl. What was that battle beyond the stars? Do you remember that one? No. It had John boy in it. Um, and it had the Valkyrie, which was basically the blonde Elvira in the super revealing dress. Um, yeah, so same. And it was like right out. So yeah, same kind of thing. Doesn’t surprise me. But like the, the, the, the, they tried or they thought that this was like pre star Wars and Lucas stole it. You know what I mean? But like now, like, you know, then they found out it’s done a year after
What is going on, everybody? How are we doing? This is the it and the D show episode 351. We are still in quarantine, even though we’re slowly getting back into business, cheers to all the bars and restaurants that got to open up today. A guest this week of the illustrious one, mr. Fred Brown. He was on about a month ago, actually. What about a month and a half ago? Right? When everything started breaking kind of educating us on COVID and what a better time to bring them back then, uh, cause all the madness going on right now with the doubts and misinformation and all this other stuff. Oh. And let’s not forget all the bars and restaurants reopening and everybody believing it’s bar crawl day. Yeah. Let’s not forget. Yeah. Hockey glass will save us all here to clear up all the madness and Dave, you know what you may fire when ready. All right. Yeah. And Fred, since the last time, uh, we’ve decided we’re not playing the intro, uh, during these video sessions. So we’re not going to make you suffer through that again. Okay. It was very inspiring. Welcome. And thank you for hanging out with us. This is the it, and the D show we are hanging out, uh, in our respective houses for the time being, this is episode three 51. This is Bob, the sales guy that is Dave, the geek, Randy. I do the Twitters is doing the Twitter, find it online it and the d.com and do us a favor, give us a like on the socials and subscribe to us everywhere. Fine podcasts are sold. And uh, yeah. So this is usually where we talk about the events and we have not put any back on the calendar just yet. Uh, but now that things are starting to open up, we will be looking at doing so. Um, I know our buddy Neil was at, uh, where we were supposed to be having our first event that got canceled Del Ray cozy lounge. Uh, so we’ll be reaching out to them and seeing how things are going and maybe go back there. Uh, and then we’ll work on the Anarbor events as well. But yeah, so it’s a, they’re they’re, they’re coming soon and, uh, and, and, and look, and look and listen to, I listened to Bob with his, uh, with his new microphone. Sounded all good and stuff. Yeah. I’m not all that. It doesn’t sound like I’m in the toilet. If you’re not watching the show. I think I got an idea for our next event that we should all wear, like those kitty life preservers and like all handout, like, uh, so, so we have this, see the distance like around our waists. Oh, you mean like the hip waders? Yes. Yeah, exactly. Like this, just like you slide them over your head, like life preservers. And I was like, what’s that going to hit? Not like a hospital, a we’ll we’ll do the whole thing. We’ll where the, uh, the face shields with the windshield wiper, the big Brown thing around our waist life preservers. I think we, uh, we need the giant burger King hats, the giant burger King crowns from Germany. We need to find our way to get our hands on those, but Hey, a Fred’s already getting a patient where we are. If you didn’t hear the pre-roll, we’re very, very lucky to have mr. Fred Brown back with us. Uh, I would consider how do we introduce you politely without a, uh, I guess you are all things, um, I guess why don’t you go ahead and introduce yourself before I stick my foot in my mouth any further? Oh, well, I, I work a little bit in epidemiology and infectious disease. I’ve done. Gosh, I, I started doing the work back in 1985. We, uh, I was on the team that discovered the first and then developed the first AIDS test, uh, for HIV, uh, detecting HIV. And unfortunately at the time we, uh, had a test, but we didn’t have any cure as a little bit similar to what we have with Qubit right now. But, uh, you know, HIV is at that point was really a deadly, you know, much more deadly than, than, than it is. And so most people after we developed the test didn’t want one. And so what we did is we actually developed it for the blood serum and we can’t, we tested all the blood. So people wouldn’t be getting diseased from the blood. And then I went, uh, and started, uh, a little company called Alkermes. And we did quite a bit of work in delivering, uh, new drugs across the blood brain barrier, which was a challenge. And then I basically helped develop a 27 major drugs and 13 diagnostic products and seven or eight vaccines in my career. So you have kids in a, you know, in, uh, who, uh, who, uh, were born in the 1990s ’em up, they probably were, were vaccinated and they have had vaccines. Then they would probably vaccinated with some of the work that I did. And most people who have been to an emergency room, public took, had drugs that I take. And most people who have cancer have taken some of the drugs that I developed as well. So that’s some of the back on it. I speak on behalf of all of us. We’re very lucky to have you with us and thank you for your time. Yeah, it’s a pleasure. I mean, he’s, he’s got a lot more credit than most of our, you know, our, our common guest in eighties, D-list celebrities. I mean, that’s so I don’t know, Dave, I got a hundred questions. Dave, you have a hundred questions, Randy, you have a hundred questions, I guess we all flip a coin, Dave, I guess start off you a fired a few off an email. Why don’t you, uh, I guess fire off one we’ll we’ll play round Robin. Well, yeah, so, I mean, I guess let’s, let’s start with obviously the, the big one. So, you know, Michigan’s bars and restaurants are reopening today, um, or reopened today, uh, you know, a lot of them, uh, I know quite a few places that, uh, that, that were opened at midnight, uh, to get that two hour Russian. Uh, so I mean, from your perspective, you know, what should people be paying attention to? And, and, and by people, I mean, both patrons and staff, you know, owners, you know, that kind of thing, like what, what should we be keeping in mind as these rules are relaxing? Because I mean, I, no joke, my Facebook feed was just littered with people, checking in at bars today and, and everything else. And, and so I, yeah, I’m, I’m curious as to what your thoughts are there. So they’re basically four, four things you want to think about. We can go into the tail if you like as well. The first thing is your own personal health. So you, are you feeling good? And as you know, we started off with about four major, uh, diagnostics for the disease. The first one was, if you had a fever 88 of the time, you had a fever that was indicative of, of COVID. Unfortunately that’s a very, uh, you know, it’s a sensitive test, but it’s not very specific. You can have pretty broad yeah. Were for a lot of different reasons. I mean, we had a, you know, shortness of breath was a big one and a dry cough. Wasn’t another big one. And there’s also some cognitive issues that we felt were issue issues. Now we’ve actually got about 12 different ways of diagnosing and I’ve got a list of them. I can, I can show you if you’re interested. I’ll just show it to you quickly. Uh, I have it here. Mmm. This isn’t the right deck, but we can get there one second and right here. Yeah. You got a dialog box up. You’re not doing anything until you kill that off. Oh, sorry. [inaudible], we’ll save this. Thank you. That’s the benefit of being in the room with three it guys. Beautiful. Let’s see. Here, there, we are open that up and see where we are. So the major, major, uh, diagnostic factors, uh, now we’ve got loss of smell and taste. That was a new one. We weren’t expecting that at all. That’s a very rare for a coronavirus, uh, of any kind to kind of create a loss of smell. The dry cough continued at 68%. We were just thought it was 66%, but it was 68%. Fatigue is a big one. If you’re really feeling very tired out. Uh, and, uh, despite getting a lot of sleep, that was a big one. It turns out there was some student production, the shortness of breath continued at about 20%. And then there was a whole mass of smaller things that we found out that it was a little bit broader indication levels than we thought. So the first question you want to ask yourself before, before you go is what sputum protection production slam. Bob. You want to go by an expectorant, let’s just say that you want, you want to be feeling good when you go out. And if you have any of those things, dumps that, then see it, you know, cause again, we’ll get a test and check it out and make sure you’re doing good. Uh, so that’s the first big question. That’s the next big question you have to ask is what your own personal level of, of risk is. And, um, you know, for guys like me, I I’m older. And so I actually have a higher level of risk and I like to admit, I can show you that quickly as well. Here are the different factors and you can see it really, it really hype so quick. Um, uh, with, uh, with these, I have a feeling we’re not going to like this chart, Bob [inaudible]. So let me see, there was a slideshow slide. So if you’re, if you’re basically under 40, um, you’re, you know, you’re, you’re in pretty good shape. Um, unless you’re saying smoking have had, and I’ve had a major disease like cancer or haven’t, haven’t had bad ass, um, then, then I think it’s, it’s relatively safe, uh, to be out and about much more. So say than when, when you get into, you know, my, my area, which I’m, you know, on the 4% side, uh, of a mortality rate. And by the time you get to my mom’s age, I gotta really be careful. Cause she’s, you know, she’s talking about, uh, uh, know one, one in five chance of dying. If she, if she comes up with it, if you’ve got a slide up, go ahead and share it. Oh, I’m sorry. I’m I’m making all sorts of mistakes tonight. I apologize. No problem. Here we are. I will hear that up. How does that look? There you go. Yeah. So, you know, basically you can see if you’re, if you’re under 40, um, the chances of, of being killed by, by, by COBIT, aren’t, aren’t zero, but they’re a lot better than if you’re say in your sixties, seventies or eighties, by the time you’re 60, you gotta really think pretty closely about whether you want to get into a high, high risk situation. Especially if you’ve got these underlying conditions like cardiovascular disease, which a lot of us have and diabetes, you can get a sense of, you know, with no underlying condition. And you know, when you’re younger, you know, you’re talking about a 0.7 0.5% mortality rate kind of thing. Uh, once you get, you know, over, over, over 50, you’re talking about two to 3%. Um, uh, and by the time we get to my mom’s age, as I said, you know, you’re talking about a one in five chance of dying. It turns out once you get over over 60, the males die a lot faster than females. And unfortunately, as we, as we, as we know, if the city does play a role, there is no genetic role that we’ve found so far, but it’s the socioeconomic conditions that are causing, especially black people to be dying at about three times the rate of the rest of us and getting the disease about two times the rate as the rest of us. So, so do these factors stack. So if you’re 80 plus and have CLPD, are you yeah, 28%. That’s right. And they don’t stack exactly. You’ve got to multiply two by the 0.7 underlying condition number, uh, through, but you know, say that you’re a 60 year old man with diabetes. You gotta, you got a 4.1, 3% chance. So you start with a 0.7 and start to add on the factors for the, of the additional factors. So yeah, it’s, uh, it gets so, you know, so that’s the second big thing. First week thing is already feeling good before you go out. Second big thing is what is my personal risk factor? Um, cause if you get it, no, I think driving a car, you gotta want a one and 700 chance of, of, of, of crashing and dying here. You’re talking about something that’s worse if you catch it. So you got, so that’s, uh, uh, that’s the next big factor personally, and you want to kind of assess your, your, your, your, your level and the, and there’s there, there are a little, you can use the mobile phone. Uh, I created a little app that says, you know, here’s my situation. I’ve got diabetes and I’ve got, you know, heart disease. I’ve got hypertension and I’m 70, you know, what are my chances? And it’ll, it’ll give you a number, stay home. That’s what it’ll say. Just be really, really, I make sure it’s worth it. Do you have, do you have one of those giant hamster bubbles? That would be great. Hey, Fred, I really walk it into this. When, when Dave told me you’re going to be on, I got all excited because literally my, my head’s been spinning from information slash slash misinformation, and I’m going to run some scenarios of everything that I’ve been hearing. And I want you to tell me what’s real. Cause it’s driving me nuts. So, you know, hold on, hold on. Just say you’ve got two more, right? I have two more. Sorry. We’ll just quickly. I’ll go through. I’m sorry. The third thing is what is the general level of COVID in your environment? And now we’ve got all sorts of little weather forecasts and COBIT announcements that says here’s what it looks like. It looks like. So in Michigan, our worst environments are Kent County, McComb County, Oakland County, and Wayne County. Those have the highest incidences of Kobe generally in the environment. If you’re up in the UPP, not bad, if you’re down below, say Gaylord, you’ve got to start getting a little bit more nervous. And as you get more toward, uh, grand Rapids or Detroit, you gotta be more careful than you would in the more rural environments. And then the last factor is the activity itself. And, uh, I’ve got a funny survey. I’ll I’ll, I’ll share with you guys. The epidemiologists all got together, the research epidemiologists, the United States, and we did a survey among ourselves saying, you know, what, what, what, what, what are, what, what were we willing to do? And you’ll find it sort of amusing. I think that the I’ll show it, share it with you later with just so it’s the, it’s how you feeling yourself. What’s your personal risk factor? What’s the general level of COVID in your environment and how dangerous is the activity that I’m planning to do? How is it relative to the other stuff? So if you go out for a walk in the park, uh, with low, low levels population, probably not too bad, if you’re planning to see in a closed up bar, we know for a lengthy period of time and you have a high risk, you want to think that through pretty carefully, right? All right. Now, Bob go, yay. No, so everything, I mean, I try to read as much as I can from as many different sources I can. And you know, basically my, my, the week over the last couple of weeks has gone like this, like who says this this week. And then who says that this week CDC says this this week, then they say something else. Then there’s health experts on this news channel that says, you can do this, but you can’t do that. And then on the other channel, they say, you can do that, but you can’t do this. And then, you know, everyone on social media is I call it the Corena virus, the Karen of virus, shaming of activities. They don’t apply. They don’t deem appropriate. Right. Um, and so basically I’m caught in this, like, and then Fowchee says this, and then the president says that, and then the press, the president secretary says this, like, literally I’m caught in the middle of what the hell? Like, what do I do? I just sit. I just I’ll just keep sitting in my chair. Like, I don’t know what to do anymore. Like who do I guess, who do you listen to her? What’s what’s right. And what’s wrong these days. So I usually go back to the scientific literature myself, you know? So I’ll take a look and see what’s been quoted and what the evidence is. So we ha we, and, and the, and the challenge has been lately that some of the scientific literature that normally you can’t really trust, uh, has, you know, 60 different coauthors. Everyone is partnering with each other. They don’t really know each other that well anymore. And the pure review tends to happen after the publication. Now, before you guys all get together and say, wait a minute, but now you sort of have to make that assessment for yourself every time. And these stuff get this good stuff gets published fast. And then of course, it’s, it’s a prominent group and you want to get it out there. And wow. You know, so it’s, it’s a, it’s a, it’s sort of a wild West, right? I believe in the it world, that’s what we call testing and production. See, I was going to say, every engineer puts in their own change control. That’s how I was going to, you know, [inaudible] whichever way. But like, so, I mean, that was the whole point of science. I always thought was science always evolve. Science always changes. There’s always people with different theories, but like, you know, like you all were trying to look for the Bible, the gospel what’s the truth. And it seems to change depending on the wind. Um, and that’s why, you know, like we, we all want to be safe. We want to all keep our families safe. But like at the same token, we’re like, wait a minute. Like, you know what I mean? Like, Oh, I know, I know. So there, there’s a couple of things that are, are also influencing it. For example, there’s, there are a couple of big programs that we have recently that everyone was talking about, uh, the Madrona vaccine, you know, and it’s hurt you. The way you create these clinical trials is you can do it in a couple different ways. One is to have a large enough sample size where you can actually do, uh, an open up the dataset, look at it, and that affect the power of the ultimate answer. And so what Madrona did in order to help, I think their, you know, their, their stock price, obviously they’re a publicly held company. They decided to, you know, open up parts of their datasets early, be able to announce that, and then, you know, force us to wait for the rest of the data later. So, uh, what happened was everyone looked at it and said, wait a minute, we’re only, you know, you guys tested 45 patients. You only opened up the data set on eight. And so it’s very hard nor normally we’d see the whole dataset. Everything would have been peer reviewed. We would have, you know, and instead it was sort of controlled by a business group, you know, business communications person out of scientist. And it was controlled their business publication, not, you know, science or Lancet or, uh, you know, uh, necessarily a journal that you did that you’d expect. Right? So that’s another additional complicating piece because people are competing for, um, trying to say their drug is good enough that we’re going to do something special with it. And especially in the vaccine space, they’re trying to bet that the vaccine will work before they’ve proven it. There’s gonna be enough data that says that’s suggestive, that we’re going to put in two, three, $4 billion into a manufacturing plant, uh, before we even know for sure that the thing is safe and efficacious. So gonna be some big bets laid down, and we have to know that early enough to make those bets work. So we don’t have to wait for the vaccine if it’s successful. I mean, is there some big factors out there? So, I mean, is, is science suffering from the same issue that like media and journalism in general are where it’s more about first than, right. Well, in, in, in this case, there’s enough, there’s enough shots on goal that if you’re first and wrong, uh, it’ll be pretty clear, pretty fast. And, and the guy coming in behind that, on the net with the next shot, I go, we’ll still have a good chance in some instances where there’s too big of a gap, uh, then, uh, sometimes, you know, first, first makes right. It gets you, it gives us the most market here, typically in pharmaceuticals. You know, there’s a big race. Usually the first person to market gets 40 to 60% market share and, and retains that market share even when the next sets of, of, of, of, of solutions come on stream. So it, you know, 46%, it’s a big, and then the next, you know, number two gets 30% market share and number three gets maybe 10 or 15% and then number four or five. So you, you know, you’re done, you’re fighting over scraps. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that’s, that’s a usual market situation in pharmaceuticals. And so there is a lot of pressure to be fast, but in this case, there’s 10 vaccines that are supposed to be ready to at least be looked at in phase three clinical testing by, you know, November, December, January of this year. So Bob, just to like, I guess a good specific example of what you were just talking about. So, you know, early on it was, uh, okay, even if you’re asymptomatic, you can absolutely pass this on to people. Um, it’s, you know, that’s a big deal. So even if you’re asymptomatic still be careful today, the who comes out and says, well, as it turns out, asymptomatic carriers, you know, isn’t, you, you’re probably, that’s probably not a distribution mechanism. That’s interesting that who did that, who come out today? I, I wasn’t aware of that. Um, because I literally just came out a bit ago. I’ll have to take a look at that. I look at the data, uh, because we know one of the challenges of the drug is that a lot of the scientists think that there is a lot of asymptomatic transmission, uh, not because, um, well, and then the two reasons for that. Uh, so I, I just, I I’m surprised by that conclusion, uh, act Josh, I’ll show you another slide if you want to take a look. Okay. Um, and that slide is about diagnostics themselves, and it’s sort of interesting how imprecise we are right now, still, unfortunately. So if you look at the different tests that are available, yeah. It’s an important for people to realize this. Um, so did I share it? Can you see it? Yep. Got it. All right. So, well, that’s the fatality rates again, here’s diagnosing COVID. So it turns out that if you think you got exposed from COVID. So my daughter was, uh, she was protesting in Chicago this week, uh, much to my unhappiness for a whole number of reasons out there. Um, and, uh, and she wants now to get tested to make sure she didn’t get a COBIT. And I said, well, that’s great, but you’re going to have to wait about five and a half days. Um, in order to really know what she get to give your best chance of knowing whether you’ve got COVID or not. So it turns out that if you think you might’ve gotten exposed, like you got on a plane and you want to go visit your elderly grandmother, and you’re concerned that on the plane, you might’ve been exposed, even though you’ve been good at home, uh, you know, uh, for, for two weeks, uh, then believe it or not, you probably shouldn’t see your grandmother for 14 days, uh, uh, because of the asymptomatic issues that we’ve dealt with it. Well, it’s, I mean, that’s what, uh, that’s the law or the rule that Hawaii passed. Um, they got, they got tired of everyone flying there because the flights were so cheap. And so they mandated a 14 day quarantine, um, and actually had a, they started and ran a fund where, you know, if, if you weren’t, if you really planning on being there for a week, they would basically pay to, you know, change your ticket and send you back home. Same thing with UK. If you go to the United Kingdom out of it, unless you get an air corridor, this isn’t an air corridor exemption. You’re going to have to wait for 14 days to enter the country. Um, and if you’re from coming in, so here on this, on this chart shows two different kinds of basic tests. The first test is in the solid line, the solid lines are the molecular and editing testing that actually tests whether you’ve got an active virus. And basically if you test three days after you’ve been exposed and you have a fuller nasal pharyngeal swab, and you go to Harvard and you get tested, they’re only saying it 40% of the time, they can detect it after that’s, after three days, if you wait for four days, there’s a 70% chance that you can detect it. And if you wait for five and a half days, that’s sort of the [inaudible] detection period of time at that point, uh, you, um, uh, we have about an 80, 84% chance of detecting it. And that’s about as good as it gets. You are in the hospital, you know, on an operating table and something inserted into your lungs to get what they call a Brocky, uh, bronchitis, uh, uh, alveolar Luvata or sputum directly from your lungs. And then you get a 92% chance, but there’s a big difference between what they publish, which is the, the, the analytical capability of a test, or just like 99.9, 5%. And the actual clinical experience that you have, because that once you take that swab, the first question is, did you get, get the right part of the nose, a little part of the, uh, to be at the right part of the lung? Did you tickle the STEM of the brain properly? Yeah. Make sure he got all, you got it all mixed up with the right in the right reagents and you gotta send it off and then you got to do the test, but that’s just to be done just right. And by the time we go through all that, it’s about 80 or 85%, you know, true positive breaks. Dave, didn’t you say your favorite was the stool sample one. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Hey, you know, that, that stool sample is turning out to be somewhat helpful. If you want to look at community spread, it’s about 55% accurate, uh, you know, uh, sensitive, um, uh, and specific overall. Um, and, and what’s interesting is if you have every day you’re taking, so the effluent charges of a building or of a particular area, you can tell whether or not there there’s, there’s antibody building up in a particular population, and then you can go back and you can test that particular population with the more specific tests, more sensitive tests, uh, and actually, you know, find the people and the reasons it’s so important is that this, um, that is, is that we do think at least, uh, I have to look at that who article that’s an interesting new, uh, new, well, so here’s, let me, let me read you the quote. So it’s a, from dr. Maria van Krakow, um, who said, uh, head of who’s emerging disease and zoonosis unit, uh, from the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmit onward to a second individual and then follows up with it’s very rare. Now she had, does immediately follow that. And of course they don’t really highlight this quote as much, um, where she says absolutely more research and data are needed to truly answer the question of whether or not asymptomatic carriers can spread it. Um, yeah, so that that’s important. She didn’t say presymptomatic, if she had, has she said presymptomatic and asymptomatic, then I would have questioned it because it turns out with your, your, your, the biggest amount of virus you’ve got that it’s shedding happens about two and a half days after being, after being, um, uh, after being exposed. So if he had said, and we think of asymptomatic rate about 25%, it ranges between 20 and 50%, depending on who you’re talking about. So eventually, you know, 80% of the time you’ll come down with symptoms, uh, 80 say 75, 80% of the time will come down with some symptoms that you are at least we’re right here. Well, I was gonna say, even if they’re, you know, that that first chart you threw up there, I mean, a lot of those symptoms are, Hey, I’ve got a, or, Hey, I’ve got the flu or it’s allergy season in Michigan. So as, as we get as become more, as we’ve become more aware, more educated, he, he could be right that, you know, the asymptomatic rate of transmission is going to be lower because we’re going to recognize that Quebec, I could have colon COVID and isolate appropriately. So can you, she may be right about that. I’d like to look at the dataset that she was looking at, because most of my colleagues are saying, we still think there’s some asymptomatic spread to, uh, to this. And so if you can imagine a stool sample, the, the, the issue we’ve got, I just, I just want to, God bless you. And it just bless you for having an actual scientific answer for Bob’s dumb ass comment. I just, I, I respect you so much for this are critical. Well, it turns out they’re more important than we thought they would be, uh, because this particular virus has a very, what they call low key value. And K value is about a lot of clustering that occurs that in order to transmit the disease, cause it’s an R value. Everyone talks about it says one person gets it two and a half people Morgan. And so on. It turns out that isn’t exactly the way that virus, this particular virus works. This particular virus really works a lot more with super spreading, so super spreading by location, who we’re spending by activity super spreading by individual. So it turns out that, um, you know, one guy in Italy actually gave the disease in two days to 761 people. And he was, he was a super spreader. It turns out there’s some, I think I had an X like that. Yeah. We don’t know enough about literacy to figure this out. So what’s nice about the stool sample is if you get starting to get community spread, you can try to isolate, um, more with, uh, and try to find that that super spreading location activity or person, uh, faster than we can normally. Cause unfortunately we don’t have very good contact rates and a lot of countries have really invested a lot contact tracing. We don’t have have that as well established yet. We’re going to get there, but it’ll take some time, but no, we’re not quite as good as say Taiwan where they’re really good. So, I mean, I guess that leads to it. So our waste treatment plants, like kind of on the front lines of this, and I know, and is, is this maybe one of the issues with, I’m just thinking like, you know, you’ve seen like lower, like the lower earlier numbers or lower numbers in rural areas where you may have a lot of homes on septic systems. Um, so you’re not getting, you know, community data you’re, you know, it’s still one offs. Like, so I mean, yeah, I mean our, our waste and water treatment plants kind of on the frontline to this now it’s a waste of, uh, yes, but even more so maintenance, uh, operations. So you can imagine, you know, collection areas of, uh, around buildings and that actually are isolated back all the way to a building. You can get to that point and in some situations, but yes, your answer is, yeah, they’re, they’re becoming more important than, than I originally thought they were going to be sort of interesting. Uh, we have a couple of comments from our, uh, Facebook who are watching the video live. Um, if you have tested positive for antibodies, what is, what does that mean? How are you immune or not? How long are you moving if you are? Yes, that is a great, that is a very valuable answer question. Um, so this that’s the second test it’s up here. I’ll just show you, you should absolutely continue to stay at home for as long as possible. So here’s, here’s that here’s the same, here’s that same slide again. And the dotted line, the dotted line tests, um, are the antibody tests and this one shows two of them. Uh, it shows the, uh, the IgG, which is the important one that, that actually is a longterm antibody that converse some immunity we think. And then the IgM that signals the body, Hey, there’s something going on here. So antibodies are, as you know, they, they, they, they arise because you’ve got a foreign object that attacking your body. And what’s interesting is if you’re one year old and if something attacks you and then, you know, 90 years later, you’re, you’re sort of, you know, wheeling and yourself around the retirement home and they test, they can find that antibody back when you’re one year old. So that, that has a permanent sort of tattoo in your system that, that, that, that go away now that the effectiveness of that antibody won’t be as strong when your ideas is when it just a couple of weeks after you’ve been infected. But, uh, but it’ll still be there. So you can still detect whether you’ve ever been infected by the disease. As you can see this, this line goes up to about 70%. So right now our best antibody detection systems detect about 70% of the time, a false, uh, we’ll we’ll, we’ll, we’ll, we’ll be accurate 70% time, but it also means that 30% of the time you may think that you’ve got antibodies and you really don’t. So you want to make sure, uh, my recommendation is, is take this test a few times before you go out and try to be Superman. Uh, I would say three times right now, uh, and there are different tests for the antibody Roche’s is the most accurate, or if those is also highly accurate, Abbott’s a little bit less accurate, but faster. So depending on how, you know, how fast you want to go and so on, uh, and, and the accuracy level and the kind of test is being done. But basically there are a couple of things you can do once you’ve had a positive, uh, antibody response. The first is you just want to find out whether you have any immune response. Now we’re looking at that pretty carefully, uh, because we’re ruling for plastic proteins that will actually, or they call neutralize, uh, these, uh, the, the virus. And those are rare to find. We think we found a couple that complex was a virus and make it, make it an ex sort of, uh, inhibit its path to the cells and then reduces infection rate. We haven’t found that many that actually, no, come on and just kill a thing. Uh, we’re looking at something called DARPA, which is sort of interesting. It comes from a malaria, but we haven’t found that much. I I’m working with some of the guys who were at Rockefeller and some of the guys who are at Stanford, and we’re, we’re a little bit disappointed in the number of we take. And so if you, if you’ve been infected and you want to contribute, um, let me know when I can sit, certainly set you up, uh, to, to donate your blood and they’ll take a big bag of it and then decide, tell you what kind of antibodies it’s again, it’s Mike, you can absolutely drain him. We’re, we’re totally good with that. He will, uh, on his behalf, we will, we will donate him to science. That’s absolutely fine. [inaudible] are, these are, these are done at very at, are they called P three labs? So they’re, you know, super infection disease. And then as far as infectious disease goes, you know, P three before that’s, you know, you’re, you’re talking about outer space type of, of sterility, uh, environments, you know, uh, I, you know, it looks like, it looks like the neck, uh, you know, the, the, the alien Malians are attacking. When you go to those labs, they, what they do is they take, they take the blood and they actually take live virus and they check and they check out whether or not the virus was being affected by any of the antibodies they found in the book. And then what they do is if they find some good, if you find that your blood is good, they’ll give these what they call plasma therapy options. Convalescent therapy is another word for it. And they’ll inject injected. The healthcare workers will inject with people who are very ill and these antibodies will help them give them a boost, temporary boost. Do you want to do it more often? You have to what they call monoclonal antibodies. They actually take the antibody that it’s working instead of giving you a, was all the antibodies. They’ll, they’ll highlight one or two. And that’s what we’re looking for. One or two that really are strong and actually synthesize it in, in, in cell culture and create monoclone. And then they’ll, you know, they’ll actually inoculate it with an oxygen. And so it produces these antibodies all the time. And, um, and, and, uh, that’s, that’s a, uh, they call it, it’s a cell line. That’s an Nicola, an immortal cell line. And this immortal cell lines produce just nothing but produce to anybody or at least take them out. And we’re able to very precisely target the people with the antibody. So that’s the next level of therapy we’re not there yet. We right now, we’re still working with cocktails and spun down plasma, but we’ll get there and it’ll, it should be helpful. So there’s our, yeah, there was a story that came out today also, or yesterday there was a scientist in Norway basically came out and said there were convinced, wrote a report that, uh, that it was lab made in China. Um, I know we had, uh, origin story. We didn’t really, you know, we were all over the board again. Um, what is, uh, I guess what’s your take on that? See, now it’s funny. It was on Forbes and I went to go click on it and it said, the pages look no longer active. I wonder if I know, right. That’s why I can’t figure anything out. What’s what’s right. What’s wrong. I swear to God, that’s what it said. That’s what happened. I drastic Laura flora couldn’t that there were a couple of big announcements that Hydrox made plugin wasn’t working. And then they found out the scientist had used a lab that really wasn’t didn’t do the work with the chiropractor I should have. And now that now it’s back being tested again, so that that’s going to happen a bunch of all, but basically most scientists, so nothing is impossible, right? It could have been done in the, uh, in, in, in a lab. Uh, and there are some Nobel laureates that are absolutely convinced that they’ve found, you know, pieces of HIV basis of this space, of that, uh, virus that they think is highly suspicious. Um, that would indicate that maybe they were looking for an HIV vaccine. Cause a lot of us are working on HIV vaccines, right? Wouldn’t it be great to have a vaccine for that stupid thing finally. Um, and, but then we still roll out 10 years out. So they’re, you know, people are working with, with different kinds of vectors and then putting in HIV, uh, HIV, uh, proteins into the vector to see if that’ll work, they create a vaccine. So that’s most plausible explanation of how it could possibly be that they were working with a virus like this that could be released. It’s highly, highly unlikely. What’s much more probable is that, um, that we had a, a shift in a drift. So what happens with these, uh, what’s happened to these DNA sequences that are in the viruses. They is, they, uh, as they, as they shifted drift, that means basically that they can, they can, uh, go into a bat. And we think what happened was it went into a bat. It started in a bat. It was then got to go ahead and do a pinion community. Hanging community shifted the DNA slightly. Uh, it was a normal grown virus into that. And the thing we community chipped with DNA slightly. And then we had some drift occurring in the, in the, in the DNA sequences would cause this funny virus to occur. That’s a far more, it turns out biologically it’s a far, far more likely scenario than, than, than a P for lab, which, which, which, which this wasn’t a mistake in the releasing something. Now it’s a brand new before lab. They were still training their people. There were some, you know, there were some safety reports that said, these guys aren’t doing exactly the right thing, but even then we tend to use, uh, you know, deactivated viruses and just as highly, highly unlikely. And then the people who run that lab, you know, I I’ve met with them a few times. They’re very, they’re, they’re some of the best, best immunologists and invest just at best people in the world and in the space. Right. So I’ll just, I’m just scanning that article, Fred. And I was like, uh, it was dismissed by experts. So it’s like, well, I’m not the person that wrote it was the expert. Cause it was proven. And now it’s, they’re proving. It’s not proven. So again, that’s where I get. I’m sitting here at home, just shaking my head because I’m reading this then it’s then it’s, it’s like watching the, a, the Pluto’s a planet episode of Rick and Morty that’s yet to come guys, one Nobel prize in the HIV field who believe we’re absolutely convinced that it was, uh, it was, uh, one of the guys in France. You don’t want that States who are convinced. And they’re very, they’re very, very prominent people in the field, you know, Nobel prize winners who are convinced that this was a something that happened by the chains, but it’s just, if you talk to most epidemiologists, most to be analogous, most neurologists who are, you know, serious about the field, it’s like, no one really believes it. And if it is, it’s such a small chance that it’s it’s to be at a disbelief. So I give it a small percent chance. There’s always a chance, but probably highly, highly, highly unlikely. All right. So I promised Frank, I would get this one in. And I, I told him I would even quote him. He said, Hey, are the memes that are floating around that say the mask you’re wearing does virtually nothing to protect you, but it protects the other guy accurate. So if I’m wearing a mask, but others aren’t, I’m protecting these dipshits and they’re infecting me. We know that that’s an excellent summary of the three different kinds of masks that you should be aware of. The first mask is the mask that we all have access to. And that’s a mask that is, is, is basically, uh, it’s basically layers of, uh, ripped up t-shirt that’s been folded. Yeah. Yeah. And it turns out this is material’s important. So, so the material that you use is important. If you use like one ply of sill, it’s only about 20% effective, but if you use like five Plaza, so it gets about 80% effect. If you use it one or two plies of cotton, a flannel, it’ll be, you know, 60, 70%. If you use three or four plots, it’ll get about knitting, knitted, crochet with holes in it like Alyssa Milano. That’s not going to work. No, you do the hand, the hand to God do to hand to God. I went to Lowe’s the other day. And literally everybody in the store was wearing a mask, which I was really happy to see. Um, however, the guy that was running back and forth with carts, uh, that was one of the story. Employees just basically had like a big like cable knit with big, giant holes in it. Wool scarf wrapped around his head. And I was like, Oh, Oh, that’s not how this works. That’s not how any of this works, but Hey, good for trying good. So this, this is a typical man. I just, I just happened to have one here. And, and what you want to do is you want to put it over your ears and you want to, you want to talk it in. You want to pull it down this way underneath and make sure see how it, how it’s going to be in and out like that. And the reason it’s doing it is because you want to make a nice don’t, don’t do it like that. It could break the metal, but it’s like this. And that’s, that’s a pretty tight seal. You have a little bit coming out this way, but the idea is that you’re stopping your breath and the person who is wearing the mask on the other side is stopping their breath. And collectively you can reduce the amount of transition by up to six fold. Well, and then for, for people like me, that wear glasses, then you put your glasses on over that. And that’s what keeps it from fogging up. That’s right. No, that’s a, that’s a big issue. There, there, there are a couple of things you don’t want to do with the math, right? The first thing you don’t want to do with a mask is touch it particularly cause it’s blocking stuff. So you’d want it when you take it on long, you want to use your, you want to use it up here. I will just show you this, this, and I see a lot of people doing it. Cause it’s is not, is useless. I’ll just tell you all this stuff comes right through your nose and through your mucus membrane. So this is not very effective. I think the a, the best analogy I’ve seen is that’s the equivalent of wearing your pants, buckled around your thighs like that. Yeah. And when you take it off, you just come behind and I take it off and then you fold it down and you throw it out right away. I don’t, don’t put it down. And you were like, I’ve just done, but it doesn’t, you know, just throw it out. And you’re all set the same thing with gloves. I don’t know if I got any gloves, but you know how to put on an off gloves, right? I mean, what you do is you put them on very carefully when you take them off, um, you, you, you, you grab it from down. Uh, ah, I do have a glove hold everything. I’ll show you. So the walls can be useful if you don’t want to wash your hands all the time. So don’t, don’t lick your fingers and you’re pulling apart the fruit bags, right? If the grocery store do not be that guy in the produce aisle, Bob, no, you avoid it, but do not touch your face, right. Or cut the mask in the middle, like that lady at the gas station. Yeah. I see. I see people with like their, their mouth exposed and they’re no, no, they’re not from Victoria’s secret. They are not crotchless panties. It’s a mask you’re supposed to be taking this seriously. Yeah. And you know what? You’re having trouble with. The mask. Women are having trouble with the vests. They’re getting like, they’re getting, so I got my gloves on, right? The way, the way. So the way you pull them on, you put them on, hold on, all of your fingers, take them off. You just grab the bottom. Right. And you try to avoid touching anything else. And you just pull them up over your fingers. Right. Then you put that one in this hand, right over your fingers, right? Everything is, everything is one bundle and you throw it out. You’re done. But taking out and off this protective gear is really important. The doctors, you know, practice it. Sometimes we watch each other, make sure they haven’t touched and exposed themselves inadvertently. So that’s one type of mask. That’s the, that’s the first type of mask. The second type of mask is a surgical mask. The surgical mask is much more comfortable and it’s better. It’s about 75% effective and reducing, you know, uh, your, uh, your breath. Um, and it’s, uh, it’s more breathable. It works not by the density of this, of the, of the material. It works actually by electrostatic, uh, uh, uh, attraction. So it actually takes the molecules and, and, and pulls them into the fabric. Uh, and it also is in fact, more effective because it blocks liquid cause it’s made for blood. You know, if you’re a surgeon, if a surgeon gets splattered, uh, it blocks the liquid, uh, contamination, which is, which is also can be very helpful if you’re around a real sick person, the last kind of mass actually PR uh, and this is answering your question. This actually protects both you and the person across from you. It’s the [inaudible] baths. And the reason that it’s, that it’s, um, protects both of you is because it actually completely filters out. It’s got a filtration system and most, as long as there’s no available on it, but the ones with valves on it are much more comfortable for the user to wear, but that just push it, all the stuff that you’re exhaling right out into the environment. And that’s extremely dangerous, right. So, I mean, at the end of the day, like the cloth mask and that kind of stuff, that you’re, that you typically see everybody walking around in. Cause that’s what we have access to. And that’s what we can get our hands on it. That’s, I mean, his question is accurate. You’re you’re, you’re not wearing it for yourself. You’re wearing it for other people. That’s right. And so everyone’s wearing it, then everyone’s being fair and you know, you’re, you’re cool. If you’re, if you’re the only guy not wearing the mask, then you’re the guy being protected everywhere else. It’s not protected. Well, I mean, and it’s, and it’s turned into, I mean, there were, there were stories coming out of a, there, I know there was one that came out of Brooklyn. There were, then there were a couple others where somebody walked into a store with a mask and they were with, or without a mask and they were just drummed out of the store. Like, you know, people, you know, just basically just yelled at and ashamed of them until they left the store. Yeah. You know, in the, in the hospital, um, you know what, you don’t want to be that guy. Right? You don’t want to be the guy who was known as a super spreader because you forgot your mask or you’re not, you didn’t wear a wet mass is properly sealed. Uh, so initially, you know, the big, you know, we would, a lot of times you think, well, you know, I’ll be the tough guy and I’ll let the mask go. And I won’t have to, you know, I won’t, I won’t be the guy who uses too much. Right. He, cause I want to save it from the teams who are older or weak or not, but it doesn’t work that way. You gotta, you know, if everyone does it, you’re, you’re pretty safe. And if, if you’re exposed, unfortunately with someone who out, without a mask, you’re going to get exposed. It’s amazing how, uh, it’s amazing how society changes. Um, I forwarded David a video of a comedian, uh, Sebastian Maniscalco. And he’s talking about going to a neighbor’s house. Yeah. Back in 2014. Yeah. Yeah. And they answered those like four years ago and how they answered the door in a surgical mask. And he goes, usually if you got one of those meds done, you pull it down and say, I’m painting downstairs. And he goes, this guy nothing. And he goes complete freak of nature. And he goes, now you look at four years later and it’s like, you’re the freak of you don’t have one on, you know, it’s just amazing how fast society changes. Yeah. And you know, it’s all about your own personal risk, you know, the, the younger people, um, uh, you know, they’re not, they’re not as high risk as we are. And so a lot of them are, are not wearing masks and it doesn’t really, it’s not, they’re not really a big risk, but hopefully they’ll, if they’re kind to us, they care about us a little bit. They’ll, they’ll ask God for our basket. Well, and I guess that’s a, that’s a good followup to that. I mean, you know, let’s, I don’t, we’ve already, we went into everything last week, but I mean, so let’s, let’s about just the simple nature of all the protests that have been going on over the past couple of weeks. And, you know, we’ve, we’ve seen, uh, you know, there’s been an awful lot of video and an awful lot of footage. Um, somewhere you’ve seen a lot of people wearing mass. A lot of people are not wearing masks. You had, um, you know, a lot of people were, you know, blasting governor Whitmer, uh, because she was at a, you know, she went to a March, um, wasn’t standing six feet apart from each other, you know, did have a mask on, but wasn’t social distancing, all that kind of stuff. Um, so I mean, I guess what’s your, like, so like what should we be expecting from what we’ve seen over the last couple of weeks? And like, what, what should we be looking out for in the next couple of weeks and, and that sort of thing. Yeah. So it usually takes about two weeks of incubation and then you’ll find out whether there’s been a seat seeding effect with, with more infection, but usually it takes about two to three months to start the seed. And then the way the exponential growth works that we talked about last time you get enough of a base and all of a sudden it just starts to take off. Um, and, uh, and so, you know, it’ll take two or three weeks and we have a slight hump then watch out because we could be getting, uh, you know, into a spiral that is going to cause a rapid growth rate. And hopefully we’ll have enough testing out there that it’ll, you know, alert us to the fact that, Hey, we got a lot of communities spread and, uh, it turned out that we, uh, got into some super spreading situations with, uh, with, with the protest on the protest side. You know, I, sir, I certainly understand that if people want to go out and have their say, my recommendation would be, if you’re in category like me, uh, and you wrote anyone like go out, um, a couple of things, sort of drive yourself there, don’t tell you to take public transportation. Right. That right there now it’s, uh, actually, uh, is, is part of the issue. If you’re in an enclosed car for a long time, finally get to the event that’s sitting in, you know, uh, sitting in with lots of other people who are breathing, uh, in a bus. That’s not, that’s not a good thing. So I wouldn’t take a bus, you know, who would do the event, even though there are a lot of people doing that, uh, at my age, I also, uh, would definitely wear a mask, definitely wear gloves. I would probably carry a sign. Wouldn’t take part in the chanting, uh, because, uh, there’s a lot when, when you’re chanting talking, you know, in order to get exposed, you have to know about, about a thousand to 3000 particles of, of, of, of the virus getting inside of you. Um, normal breathing is about 58, 50, 50, uh, particles, uh, for expert ex exploration. So after about five or six minutes, you know, you can be exposed talking to somebody. And if you’re shouting, uh, then you’re talking about, you know, maybe five to 10,000, especially if you’re using a lot of ages and stages and bees and you know, all the, all the things that everybody had, a microphone hates, all the plosives. Yeah. Whatever, whatever you’re saying, Oh boy, those kinds of words. Uh, and then certainly the, the, the big issue is if they start using, you know, tear gas that about to be my followup. Yep. Yeah. Then you really gotta be careful cause it can aggravate your lungs to begin with. You gotta take off your mask. You got a lot of people coughing and you got a lot. And when you cough, you’re talking about expirations of 50 miles an hour, that’ll go with, you know, 20, 30 feet. So, you know, uh, it’s a, it’s a, you know, it’s a big difference between shouting which goes 10 feet, uh, versus versus coughing, which goes a lot further. Uh, and, and the other thing I’d say is, uh, you sure don’t want to be arrested and put into Patty wagon with 30 other guys and then put, put into jail, avoid that at all. I feel like that’s good life advice, Fred. I feel like I forgot his name. My wife loves that show. The guy who runs the tigers. Oh, a Joe Maldonado, Joe exotic. Yeah. Yeah. Well exotic. Yeah. I mean, it’s it, you know, if you’re in prison, it’s, it’s a dangerous situation in there cause it’s just, you’re sitting there in a germ box. So those are most of my thoughts about, about protesting, you know, take a sign, don’t get into shouting, take, take, take your six feet. If you can, if you get started being crowded down, you can’t, and you can’t avoid getting crowded down. I’d probably avoid that situation. I probably wouldn’t, you know, I’d probably say, okay, you know, I’ve had my say, I’m on, I’m off where I, I I’d move around into a different area where I had more space. I could still, you know, do you might say, say my thing and do my, do my thing. Uh, bring hand sanitizers. Cause you’re going to want to shake hands. You’re going to want to touch your face. You’re going to be hot. Uh, bring, bring, uh, if you’re going to wear a mask to make sure you, uh, use, uh, use, uh, a good SPF, uh, on your, on your skin, because you don’t want to get skin cancer, but also you don’t also don’t want to get what they call a mask. You don’t look like you’ve gone 10 line. Yeah. The mask rings. You don’t want that. And if you’re having, if you’re having trouble with your math, you know, you’re getting a lot of people are getting what they call Mac Mackney, you know, we got a little bit acne coming up from there. Uh, uh, if you’re a woman don’t use, uh, oily, oily cosmetics, if you can avoid it. And if you’re man or women, uh, try to use, uh, try to avoid synthetic fabrics, a lot of these fancy synthetic fabrics, aren’t, aren’t nearly as breathable. And then they cause a lot of, uh, irritation to your skin. More, more so than you’d think. And unfortunately, I think we’re going to be with a mass situation for over a year really well. So, and I guess so there’s, I guess there’s a good question. We touched on this a little bit last time, but it was still pretty early in the game and the weather hadn’t changed as much has anything further come out. I mean, cause you know, so it was nice and cool yesterday and today we’re going to be climbing up into the nineties for the next three days. Has there been any more data that you’re aware of? That’s come out about how, you know, Hey, the flu goes away when it gets warm. So I mean, you know, has there been anything more discovered about that in relation to the weather or with this in relation to the weather? So they are doing really fancy studies now to look at all sorts of modeling, uh, around the weather. And um, so, uh, originally we thought over 77 degrees Fahrenheit was going to be a better period of time than under 77. We thought 77 was a special number. That was the, who was the original number with the temperature humidity makes a big difference. Cause the virus doesn’t travel as far and human weather as it does. You know, if you cough cause the is have, yeah, it makes sense trapped in the moisture of the air. So it actually reduces the amount of distance almost to a foot instead of 16. Yeah. But I’m, I’m not a fan of humidity, but I guess it serves a purpose when you actually do the, the numbers. Um, it turns out that the biggest factor is how many susceptible people you’ve got out there. You’ve got a lot of people who are susceptible and this is a novel layer. So most of us are still susceptible. Then that’s going to overwhelm almost any other factor in the models that we’re creating. Gotcha. Once you start to get, you know, close to her immunity and you start to get a weather impact, then you’re starting to get there. Then you’d have some opportunity. But right now we think it’s about 0.05 are. So it was just a little bit, the amount of transmission that’s our best guess. Right. So like, you know, the, I guess, you know, the, the parties you saw, like in the Ozarks, you know, in that kind of stuff where you had hundreds, I mean, yeah, granted it was nice and hot outside, but you had hundreds of people gathering around the pools and that kind of stuff and just going crazy. Yeah. Granted, most of them were young, but still, probably not the best idea. No, no, that, that, that’s a real superstar of it. He goes, the problem is then you go and visit grandma. Right, right. Or the neighborhood let’s go. And then, then you, then you go to the nursing home and then you, then you have a big belt. Yeah. Those are super spreader events. Uh, and we’ll, we’ll probably, usually you can see what’s interesting is our, our testing technology is pretty sensitive now and you can see that the effect of our, of those little events. So I, uh, we, we had our, uh, you know, when people were getting Nancy and they, they, they went and they demonstrated it at the, uh, uh, at the blood chasers. Let’s, we’re going to open up now, but believe it or not, a day later, we actually could see, uh, you know, it took about two or three days for that, that, that, that to sort of push back down again. Uh, so those, those events do, do make a slight difference. Uh, now there were lots of other people out there. So that was, it was, it was the first nice day of the spring. So there were a lot of people that do out and about, I just remember it cause of that day that, uh, there are some events that can really make a difference. For example, they shut down Korea. Now Korea has a different philosophy about, about the three different philosophies that government can have basically about what they want to do with coronavirus. Right? The first is they want to, um, they, they want to contain the virus. And so Korea, Taiwan, China, those guys are actually trying to contain virus, which means if you get, if you get exposed, you know, you’re supposed to quarantine immediately supposed to announce all the contacts you’ve had. They’ve got electronic medical, they got electronic records in Israel looking actually you go find where you’ve been, who you’ve been with and announced to everybody, you know, this person is ill. So be careful. Well, um, and then there’s suppression, which we’re doing in most of the States. And there’s some who just like Sweden, who were saying, you know, we’re just going to let it go, let it rip, see what happens. Uh, so those are the three different processes when Korea who was trying to actually contain the virus, had that one guy. Remember that one guy who found out two days later after they opened up, you went to three big nightclubs. They shut down the whole country for a few days. So, so the cause they’re trying to avoid those super spreader events. Uh, so that, that’s a, that’s a sort of a different philosophy, but that’s what happens in those safe hunters yet. I was going to say, so kind of, so like, you know, the like New Zealand, you know, kind of did the same thing and they just made the big announcement today. Hey, life is back to normal as of today. No more social distancing rules, no more, any of that stuff, I guess like what, what did they do that was so different from us other than they’re way, way smaller, but we can’t get there so easily. They’re way down there. I mean, that didn’t really help Manhattan. We got bridges, New Zealand. So yes. So what New Zealand did is they made a couple mistakes early on, but they very quickly decided we’re going to go with containment. We’re going to not allow anyone on the Island or off the Island period. And they’re still not letting anyone off or off the Island. You have to come in from Australia being in Australia and even come on in New Zealand. So,
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