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Heterodorx
Science Fiction with Jon Del Arroz

Heterodorx

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 14, 2024 63:57


Science Fiction author and journalist Jon Del Arroz was canceled before being canceled was cool (2016) and sued WorldCon for banning him in 2018. He discusses author communities, latinx armor, being both marginalized and having white privilege, crowdfunding for comics, Trump Derangement Syndrome, the twist of no twist, small presses, Marion Zimmer Bradley, Neil Gaiman, John Scalzi, the noncompliant majority, the swing of the political pendulum, alien pronouns, Revelation, bringing God's kingdom on earth, Christian nationalism, and abortion vans. Cori reminisces about when science fiction was more libertarian, and Nina asks: what about the weirdos?  Links: Jon's website: https://delarroz.com/ Jon's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/jondelarroz Jon on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B01NBOZVCP Jon on Twitter: https://x.com/jondelarroz Agents of H.A.G.: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/agents-of-h-a-g-comic-book/ Compliance Comix: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/compliance-comix/ Science Fiction & Fantasy Writers Association: https://www.sfwa.org/ Marion Zimmer Bradley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Zimmer_Bradley Wikipedia article on the Sad Puppies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sad_Puppies Hugo Award nominees (best novel) on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Award_for_Best_Novel John Scalzi: https://whatever.scalzi.com/2013/07/16/and-now-here-i-am-in-a-regency-dress/ Nina's outdated bio (2005): https://ninapaley.com/bio.html --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support

Conspiracy Clearinghouse
Swiftboating Redux: Taylor Swift Derangement Syndrome

Conspiracy Clearinghouse

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 10, 2024 59:55


EPISODE 108 | Swiftboating Redux: Taylor Swift Derangement Syndrome She's the most successful pop star today, yet some people seem to suffer brain meltdowns when thinking about Taylor Swift. Call it TDSD, Taylor Swift Derangement Syndrome, and it takes hold especially in MAGAmaniacs, Trumpeteers, Trad Chads and broflakes.  Tracing the conspirasphere's treatment of Swift along with her career and life, including Kanyegate and the Masters Dispute, shows some interesting connections as TDSD spreads far and wide, outpaced only by her own wildly popular musical output. THIS EPISODE MARKS THE BEGINNING OUR 5TH YEAR. THANKS FOR ALL THE SUPPORT!  Like what we do? Then buy us a beer or three via our page on Buy Me a Coffee. #ConspiracyClearinghouse #sharingiscaring #donations #support #buymeacoffee You can also SUBSCRIBE to this podcast. Review us here or on IMDb! SECTIONS 02:53 - Fearless - Beginning successes with Big Machine, first conspiracy theories 07:48 - Kanyegate - The 2009 MTV VMA Awards echoes through the years 11:47 - Speak Now - Swift as Satanic priestess, the reincarnation of Zeena Schreck (Lavay), or a clone; No, it's Becky 15:28 - Red - Kanye West pipes up again, moves to NYC, starts advocating for artists' rights 17:02 - 1989 - The Gaylor Theory and Taylor Swift Is Gay, the Squad, no belly button, goes after Spotify and Apple Music 21:25 - Bad Blood - Kanye West sends flowers, then makes a phone call about "Famous", Swifties and Squaddies respond, Swift supports young women, West freaks out backstage at SNL, Kim Kardashian tells fibs, the video for "Famous" keeps the flames fanned, Kim releases a short video of the phone call and promotes #KimExposedTaylorParty, "I would very much like to be excluded from this narrative", battle lines were drawn, snake memes proliferate, friendships are broken, they're all part of the Illuminati 29:47 - Out of the Woods - Harry Styles and Taylor Swift killed someone in 2012, David Mueller lawsuit, the $1, #MeToo kicks off, Time's "Silence Breakers" 33:08 - Reputation - Swift died, gave birth to a snake baby, is a clone (again), Scooter Braun and Swift's masters dispute, Swift threatens to re-record her first six albums, Big Machine tries to shackle Swift, "Karyn" the inflatable snake, MAGA takes notice of Swift, Qtips think Monte Lipman is Jeffrey Epstein 38:52 - You Need to Calm Down - Lover comes out, Covid-19 lockdown starts, the entire West-Swift call video is leaked, Swift takes the high road, the West flap has flashbacks and echoes, Swift hates the Statue of Liberty, some Squaddies defect, Swift gets down hard and retreats to London, watches movies with Joe Alwyn 42:30 - Folklore Evermore - folklore is the ultimate lockdown album, "cardigan" sells sweaters, Swifties tank Live from Clear Channel Stripped 2008, Scooter Braun stops his feet but then sells to Disney's Shamrock Holdings, evermore comes out in just five months 45:19 - Taylor's Version - Swift re-records and expands earlier work, reminds one of the Prince-Warner dispute, Braun makes a lot more money, the Carlyle Group tells Braun to make nice but he goes the other way, piss off the Swifties and find out, reminds one of Madonna and Brittany Spears, the attention economy is a new thing, Swift is too left wing for the alt-righties 50:48 - In the Midnight Era - Midnights and the Eras Tour, Swift gives back to her truck drivers, more Taylor's Versions, starts seeing Travis Kelce, Swifties register to vote, MAGA is worried Swift will endorse Biden, a slew of conspiracy theories (ice cream, human skin hat, CIA psy-ops agent, mind control master, AI-porn on Twitter, Trump says he's more popular than Swift, Trumpeteers declare a holy war on Swift, Kelce is gay), much nonsense about the Super Bowl, Trump wades in again, she's a golddigger and also super gross 58:14 - Scientific American looks into TSDS, The Tortured Poets Department is nigh Music by Fanette Ronjat Lapsus Linguae - At 10:15, I accidentally call the album Fearless "Fear", forgetting the "less" More Info: Donate to the World Health Organization Feeding America website Taylor Swift website Taylor Swift on Facebook Taylor Swift on Instagram Taylor Swift on YouTube Reasons why I love Taylor Swift by springapple r/TaylorSwift Swifties on Wikipedia Swifties on Taylor Swift fandom wiki Taylor Swift and the Swifties: A Love Story Forged in Song Why Taylor Swift's Fans Love Her So Much in Psychology Today Understanding Swifties' mindsets using the Taylor/Travis love story 14 Outrageous-But-Accurate Taylor Swift Theories That Prove Swifties Are The Best Detectives Taylor Swift's boyfriends: A timeline of all the megastar's famous exes Taylor Swift Is Incredibly Good At Being A Celebrity A Timeline of Taylor Swift's Generosity Let's go down the rabbit hole of Taylor Swift conspiracy theories Style Theory: The Cult of Taylor Swift video The 15 Wildest Conspiracy Theories About Taylor Swift The Taylor Swift iceberg video The wildest Taylor Swift conspiracy theories, from Biden 2024 to a cat spy comedy Snopes articles about Taylor Swift The Taylor Swift Conspiracy Theory Iceberg video Taylor Swift Conspiracy Theories Hold Sway With 1 in 5 Americans I'm losing my friends to Taylor Swift conspiracies :( Decoding Taylor Swift Conspiracies and Outrage on The Center for Inquiry Taylor Swift, Harry Styles and a wild internet theory about a snow mobile Taylor Swift Has A Japanese Doppelganger Who Starred In A McDonald's Ad Does an Image Show Taylor Swift Hawking an Electric Burner? Numbers You Didn't Know You Needed: All the Times Taylor Swift Has Carried an Empty Purse Taylor Swift Had An Incredible Response To A Tumblr Meme About Herself 18 Taylor Swift Memes You'll Only Find In Your 'Wildest Dreams Taylor Swift deepfakes could be the tip of an AI-generated iceberg Tweet uses a ham sandwich as 'evidence' that Taylor Swift is a slut in USA Today Let's call the abuse of Taylor Swift what it really is – a hate crime against women in The Independent The Squad on Swiftpedia A Complete History of Taylor Swift's Squad Is Taylor Swift gay? The Dianna Agron and Karlie Kloss relationship rumors, explained r/Gaylor_Swift I Cracked the Code on Galyor_Swift Taylor Swift is Gay on Tumblr Is Taylor Swift gay? | Deep Dive video Taylor Swift DOESN'T want you to THINK she's GAY video Taylor Swift puts decades-long romance rumour to rest with single missive “Haters Gonna Hate, Hate . . . .” Can Taylor Swift “Shake it Off”? HOW THE EXTREMIST RIGHT HIJACKED ‘STAR WARS,' TAYLOR SWIFT AND THE MIZZOU STUDENT PROTESTS TO PROMOTE RACISM Taylor Swift has angered many people with her 'You Need To Calm Down' release. Here's why The 10 Most Convincing Theories About Taylor Swift's Album Reputation Taylor Swift Has Written an Op-Ed in the Wall Street Journal Taylor Swift Pens Open Letter Explaining Why ‘1989' Won't Be on Apple Music Apple Changes Course After Taylor Swift Open Letter: Will Pay Labels During Free Trial Taylor Swift won her day in court. Here's what you need to know. Top 10 References You Missed in Taylor Swift's "Look What You Made Me Do" video A Complete Timeline of Taylor Swift and Scooter Braun's Feud Taylor Swift Explains Why She's Re-Recording Her Albums on Seth Meyers video How Taylor Swift Outsmarted Her Record Label video Taylor Swift and Kanye West's 'Famous' Phone Call Video Leaks Online — Read the Transcript A Complete Timeline of Taylor Swift and Kanye West's Feud Swift an ‘Aryan goddess' to alt-right This is why you hate Taylor Swift - thoughts on women who have an ego Taylor Swift Admits She Was ‘Lonely' While Writing Her ‘Folklore' Album During the Pandemic All the records Taylor Swift has broken in 2023 MAGA movement targets Taylor Swift with pitiful conspiracy theories From nightmare ticketing to online abuse, being a pop fan is becoming miserable Haters gonna hate: Pentagon pushes back against Fox News conspiracy theory involving Taylor Swift A Timeline of Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce's Relationship The right is coming for Taylor Swift. They don't stand a chance Conservatives have picked the wrong enemy with attacks on Taylor Swift Taylor Swift fans sent me death threats, doxxed my family, and accused me of being a pedophile after I criticized her Eras Tour Taylor Swift's ‘Time' Cover Is Breaking Far-Right Brains Sean Hannity Has Surprising Take On Taylor Swift Criticism Republicans Are Once Again Being Very Weird About Taylor Swift Taylor Swift Has Broken Conservatives' Brains Why Taylor Swift Is Making Conservatives Crazy The meaning of the hysteria over Taylor Swift Secrecy and Taylor Swift: What Conspiracy Theories Reveal About Our Growing Distrust of Institutions GOP invents Taylor Swift conspiracy theory instead of facing reality about unpopular policies on MSNBC video Trump reportedly said he's "more popular" than Taylor Swift, worrying about her endorsing Biden Trump Allies Pledge ‘Holy War' Against Taylor Swift Study: Taylor Swift, social media conspiracy theories suggest record Super Bowl ratings Trump makes a plea for Taylor Swift's loyalty in pre-Super Bowl post to Truth Social GOP extremists whine about Taylor Swift after Chiefs' AFC championship win Untangling 13 Taylor Swift Midnights Theories: Real or Our Wildest Dreams? All the times number 13 was relevant in Super Bowl 58: A Taylor Swift conspiracy theory Taylor Swift has encouraged her fans' numerology habit yet again A Comprehensive Breakdown of Taylor Swift's Easter Eggs video Taylor Swift's music video symbolism video How the internet built a conspiracy theory around a new spy flick, a debut novel, and Taylor Swift When Nerds Attack - Gamergate, Elevatorgate & Sad Puppies (ep. 40) 44 for 44 - The Obama Conspiracies (Thanks, Obama!) (ep. 05) Follow us on social: Facebook Twitter Other Podcasts by Derek DeWitt DIGITAL SIGNAGE DONE RIGHT - Winner of a 2022 Gold Quill Award, 2022 Gold MarCom Award, 2021 AVA Digital Award Gold, 2021 Silver Davey Award, 2020 Communicator Award of Excellence, and on numerous top 10 podcast lists.  PRAGUE TIMES - A city is more than just a location - it's a kaleidoscope of history, places, people and trends. This podcast looks at Prague, in the center of Europe, from a number of perspectives, including what it is now, what is has been and where it's going. It's Prague THEN, Prague NOW, Prague LATER  

Historias para ser leídas
Si fueras un dinosaurio, amor mío. Rachel Swirsky

Historias para ser leídas

Play Episode Listen Later May 7, 2023 10:12


El presente relato corto ganó el premio Nébula del año 2014 . En realidad, no estamos ante un cuento estrictamente de ciencia ficción, ni siquiera es fantástico… o tal vez sí, pero al margen de su adscripción genérica se trata de una bellísima historia de amor ❤️ —casi un poema— que merecía ser publicada en español y narrada por una servidora. Apareció en marzo de 2013 en la cada vez más interesante revista Apex y suscitó decenas de elogios aunque también fue una de las historias que centraron los ataques del ala más reaccionaria de la ciencia ficción norteamericana, aquella liderada por los denominados Sad Puppies y Rabid Puppies, cuyas campañas han llegado incluso a amenazar el prestigio de los premios Hugo. Por cierto, el marido de Rachel es un gran aficionado a los dinosaurios. 🦖🦖 RACHEL SWIRSKY (California, 1982) es una escritora de fantasía y ficción especulativa, aunque también es poeta, ensayista, editora e, incluso, fue vicepresidenta de la Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America. Ha sido nominada a los premios Hugo, Sturgeon y Locus, y en 2010 obtuvo el Nébula de mejor novela corta con «The Lady Who Plucked Red Flowers Beneath the Queen’s Window» . Sus historias han aparecido en numerosas publicaciones: Tor.com, Subterranean Magazine, Clarkesworld, Beneath Ceaseless Skies, Fantasy Magazine, Interzone, Realms of Fantasy, Weird Tales, y en recopilaciones tan prestigiosas como The Year’s Best Science Fiction de Gardner Dozois, The Year’s Best Science Fiction & Fantasy de Rich Horton, Year’s Best Science Fiction y Fantasy of the Year de Jonathan Strahan, o Best American Fantasy de Jeff y Ann VanderMeer. 📌 ¡¡Síguenos en Telegram: https://t.me/historiasparaserleidas (estamos preparando un sorteo)🎁 🛑BIO Olga Paraíso: https://instabio.cc/Hleidas 📌Súbete a nuestra nave y disfruta de contenido exclusivo solo para ti, pulsa el botón azul APOYAR y serás un tabernero galáctico desde 1,49€ al mes. Gracias por tu apoyo. ¡¡Hasta el próximo audio!! 🚀 (。◕‿◕。) Escucha el episodio completo en la app de iVoox, o descubre todo el catálogo de iVoox Originals

DEATH // SENTENCE
Jeffrey Ford - The Physiognomy

DEATH // SENTENCE

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 12, 2022 109:15


On this episode of Death // Sentence, Langdon and Eden kick things off by summoning the worst version of Eden possible - Conservative Eden! He rants on and on about the whiplash reaction to Sad Puppies and the inevitable, and awful, rise of identity politics focused SFF. Then, the two discuss Jeffrey Ford's The Physiognomy, a World Fantasy Award winning, weird-ass book about corrupted cities, immortality, heaven, time travel (possibly), neurosis, paranoia, fascism, and a protagonist who really, really sucks. No, really. He sucks. Book's great though! Music played: Reliqa - The Bearer of Bad News https://reliqa.bandcamp.com/track/the-bearer-of-bad-news-2 God Alone - Kung Fu Treachery https://godalone.bandcamp.com/track/kung-fu-treachery-2

The Secular Foxhole
Saving Time by Falling Back. Cockroaches in Politics, Sad Puppies, and Sats Cats.

The Secular Foxhole

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 7, 2022 33:05


We talk about the daylight saving time, Twitter, cockroaches in politics, sad puppies waiting for a happy note, and cats.Call-to-Action: After you have listened to this episode, add your $0.02 (two cents) to the conversation, by joining (for free) The Secular Foxhole Town Hall. Feel free to introduce yourself to the other members, discuss the different episodes, give us constructive feedback, or check out the virtual room, Speakers' Corner, and step up on the digital soapbox. Welcome to our new place in cyberspace!Show notes with links to articles, blog posts, products and services:Live streaming / video / podcasting tool, Boomcaster (Martin's referral link)TanTEAve (IV) black tea blendFuel tablets (Martin's referral link)Amy Peikoff's News SandwichSloppy Joe sandwichDagwood (Dagobert in Swedish) sandwichFountain appSupport the show: PayPal, Patreon, and BuyMeACoffeeSad puppy face...Sat Cats Club (who sent Boostagrams via a Podcasting 2.0 app) - Intergalactic Boombox podcastAnimosity Between AOC And Musk Heats Up Over Billionaire's Twitter Takeover - ForbesErdogan says he could discuss charge for Twitter blue check with Elon Musk - ReutersNew Podcast Apps dot comThe Mark Moss Show - Elon Musk's Bid to Buy TwitterWeb inventor Tim Berners-Lee wants us to ‘ignore' Web3: ‘Web3 is not the web at all' - CNBCDAVID VEKSLER ON CRYPTO - episode 40 of The Secular Foxhole podcastPodcast Index dot socialFree Atlantis dot com

The Happy Warrior Podcast
What Killed Science Fiction? Interview with Larry Correia , author of Monster Hunter International!

The Happy Warrior Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 1, 2022 83:22


Who was responsible for killing the Hugo Awards and mainstream Science Fiction Publishing? Larry Correia is the New York Times best-selling author of the Monster Hunter International book series. He is responsible for dozens of best sellers, the man behind the SAD PUPPIES campaign that exposed the corruption controlling the once-prestigious Hugo awards. In this interview, Larry sits down to speak about his experience writing science fiction and how he broke the Hugo Awards and showed it for the scam it had become. How he got involved in a public rivalry with George R R Martin, and what he hopes or expects will be coming next for nerd culture. Sponsored by Baen Books & Young Voices. CultureScape is the show that interviews the creators and influencers that built nerd culture. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Music by FAAS Sounds, Song: Best Time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFB6-I9b4Ak Art & Editing by Peter Pischke Interviews scheduled with the help of Sean Korsgaard Assistance from Bobster: https://twitter.com/FilmBobster --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/culturescape/message

Teacher Needs A Drink Podcast
Briggs Meyer, Locked Workroom, Taco Bell Savior, R Kelly & Sad Puppies. Ep 159

Teacher Needs A Drink Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 26, 2022 25:50


Howdy Folks! Today Elvis is joined by Bunny O'Hare, Mamma Chicken, &  Count Chocolate!  Listen as we discuss Elvis' Briggs Meyer results, How one admin is micromanaging by locking the workroom, a clever art teacher who is using the taco bell chime to keep kids focused, and if we would have R Kelly Trapped in our closet. You can support Teacher Needs a Drink and hear other bonus exclusive episodes at Patreon!! https://www.patreon.com/TeacherNeedsaDrinkPodcast Teacher Needs A Drink Podcast is proudly sponsored by Ludlam Dramatics. Ludlam Dramatics creates educational theatre posters and other Dramatic resources. Check them out at www.LudlamDramatics.com      

Ok, Let's Hear It
Ryann's Big Move and Sad Puppies

Ok, Let's Hear It

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 21, 2022 55:48


Hear all about Ryann's cross country move and our thoughts on the Bach of course! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/ok-lets-hear-it/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/ok-lets-hear-it/support

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Raging Romantics
#33 Exploring The Final Frontier with Science Fiction and Romance

Raging Romantics

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 7, 2022 59:03


Are you a Trekkie like Jackie? Or do you only read science fiction romance for the spurs, like Jen? This month we're blasting into the stratosphere to look at the evolution of science fiction as a genre, and how aliens and scifi romance started stepping onto the scene. We'll talk about issues of gatekeeping, sexism, lack of diversity, andTerms:Science Fiction - a form of fiction that deals principally with the impact of actual or imagined science upon society or individuals.Hugo awards -first presented in 1953 and presented annually since 1955, are science fiction's most prestigious award.Hugo Gernsback (1884-1967) - American inventor and publisher who was largely responsible for the establishment of science fiction as an independent literary form.Pulp Magazine - Literary magazines printed on cheap pulp paper Science Fiction League of America- founded in 1934 and one of the first official fan groups, devoted solely to science fiction; has since spawned into numerous other such organizationsOther episodes to go listen to:#9 Fifty Shades of Blue with Ruby Dixon#10 Adventures on an Ice Planet#11 The Cult of Snowqueens Ice Dragon and 50 Shades#21 Into the Unknown with Paranormal Romance#25 A (not-so-brief) Brief History of RomanceBooks/authors we mention:Ice Planet Barbarians (series) and Ice Home (series) by Ruby DixonGulliver's Travels by Jonathan SwiftFrankenstein by Mary ShelleyThe Time Machine by HG WellsJules VerneEdgar Rice BorroughsRobert Louis StevensonThe Gods Themselves by Isaac AsimovTime Enough for Love by Robert HeinleinMrs. Caliban by Rachel IngallsThe Rowan by Anne McCaffreyDragonriders of Pern (series) by Anne McCaffreyThe Love Hypothesis by Ali HazelwoodLost Colony series by Jayne Castle (aka Jayne Anne Krentz)Star King by Susan GrantOutlander by Diana GabaldonJohanna LindseySpecifically her Ly-San-Ter Family seriesInterview with a Vampire by Anne RiceThe Claiming of Sleeping Beauty by Anne RiceAnna HackettCalista SkyeIlona AndrewsLinks:Hugo Awards issue Jen was referring to: "Diversity wins at the Sad Puppies lose at the Hugo awards" (Walter, 2015)"Pulp Literature and Science Fiction" (Syracuse University Special Collections Research Center)"Forrest J Ackerman Papers-An inventory of his papers at Syracuse University" (Syracuse University Special Collections Research Center)"Pulp Magazines" (Encyclopedia.com)"Writing the future: A timeline of science fiction literature" (BBC.co.uk)"Origins of Science Fiction" (Scififilmhistory.com)"Science Fiction" (Britannica)"Science Fiction And Utopia In 'Gulliver's Travels'" (UKessays, 2018)"Enlightenment" (History.com, 2020)"Before The Shape of Water, There Was Mrs. Caliban" (Mason, 2019)"Science Fiction and Romance: A Very Uneasy Marriage" (Lawson, 2006)"The fourth wave of feminism" (Britannica)

All Kittysneezes Podcasts

In this episode, we re-examine the saga of the notorious Sad Puppies. What happened? What ripple effects did it have on the sci-fi/fantasy community? The post Puppy Play by Matt Keeley appeared first on Kittysneezes.

Rite Gud
Puppy Play

Rite Gud

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 11, 2021 70:33


In this episode, we re-examine the saga of the notorious Sad Puppies. What happened? What ripple effects did it have on the sci-fi/fantasy community? The post Puppy Play by Matt Keeley appeared first on Kittysneezes.

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Conspiracy Clearinghouse
When Nerds Attack - Gamergate, Elevatorgate & Sad Puppies

Conspiracy Clearinghouse

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 1, 2021 59:42


EPISODE 40 | When Nerds Attack - Gamergate, Elevatorgate & Sad Puppies A short late night chat in an elevator becomes a flashpoint in a storm of online misogyny; a woman has to hide because she dares critique the depiction of women; a relationship ends, sparking off a campaign of hate against women that lasts for years, and not even the venerable Hugo Awards are safe from the spreading #onlineslimemold. And then the racists get in on the action. You'd think the realms of atheism, video games and science fiction would be immune to online nonsense, but you'd be very, very wrong. Even there, aggrieved men weaponize the internet to try and "take back" something that was really never theirs in the first place. Along the way the #slimemold will use doxxing, swatting, spite charities and other tools to lay the foundations of the modern alt-right, QAnon and the January 6, 2021 attack on the US Capitol. See a video version of this episode on our YouTube channel. Like what we do? Then buy us a beer or three via our page on Buy Me a Coffee. #ConspiracyClearinghouse #sharingiscaring #donations #support #buymeacoffee https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ConspiracyClear You can also SUBSCRIBE to this podcast. SECTIONS 02:36 - Elevatorgate - Rebecca Watson, Richard Dawkins & flame wars 09:46 - I am Not a Number, I am a Free Chan! - 2channel, 2chan, 4chan, 8chan & 8kun 13:56 - #Gamergate - Anita Sarkeesian, Zoe Quinn, Eron Gjoni, MundaneMatt, Internet Aristocrat, Total Biscuit, #burgersandfries, The Fine Young Capitalists, Phil Fish, Vivian James, Hotwheels, JonTron, Adam Baldwin 29:09 - Mike Cernovich, "Based Lawyer" & professional misogynist, sockpuppets 30:53 - Marc Threadingham, white knight, Operation Disrespectful Nod, the Red Pill Right 32:41 - New techniques are developed, Brianna Wu, swatting, Social Justice Warriors (SJWs), #slimemold, #onlineslimemold 38:45 - Sad Puppies Aren't Much Fun - Larry Correia wants a Hugo Award, Brad R. Torgensen takes over the Sad Puppies, Theodore Beale (Vox Day, total jerk) goes further with the Rabid Puppies, George R.R. Martin, Chuck Tingle gets slammed in the butt, the Puppies get owned (three times), N. K. Jemisin gets the last word (three times) 54:22 - Zoe Quinn also gets a last word 55:17 - The #slimemold thrives, a really nasty game is sold, the foundations of the present Music by Fanette Ronjat LAPSUS LINGUAE: I accidentally call Mike Cernovich "Mark", probably because simply thinking about him makes me want to throw up.  Follow us on social for extra goodies: Facebook (including upcoming conspiracy-themed events) Twitter YouTube (extra videos on the topic, Old Time Radio shows, music playlists and more) Other Podcasts by Derek DeWitt DIGITAL SIGNAGE DONE RIGHT - Winner of 2021 AVA Digital Award Gold & 2020 Communicator Award of Excellence for Podcasts and on numerous top 10 podcast lists.  PRAGUE TIMES - A city is more than just a location - it's a kaleidoscope of history, places, people and trends. This podcast looks at Prague, in the center of Europe, from a number of perspectives, including what it is now, what is has been and where it's going. It's Prague THEN, Prague NOW, Prague LATER.

Podside Picnic
Halt! Hugos There Preview

Podside Picnic

Play Episode Listen Later May 20, 2021 5:33


Sad Puppies! Rabid Puppies! Join Pete and Karlo for the recent history of the Hugo Awards, and what's going on today.

PODCAST: Hexapodia XIII: "Mandated Interoperability": We Can't Make It Work, or Can We?

"Hexapodia" Is the Key Insight: by Noah Smith & Brad DeLong

Play Episode Listen Later May 4, 2021 51:36


Key Insights:Cory Doctorow is AWESOME!It is depressing. We once, with the creation of the market economy, got interoperability right. But now the political economy blocks us from there being any obvious path to an equivalent lucky historical accident in our future.The problems in our society are not diametrically opposed: Addressing the problems of one thing doesn't necessarily create equal and opposite problems on the other side—but it does change the trade-offs, and so things become very complex and very difficult to solve. Always keep a trash bag in your car.Hexapodia!References:Books:Cory Doctorow: How to Destroy Surveillance Capitalism Cory Doctorow: Attack Surface Cory Doctorow: Walkaway Cory Doctorow: Down & Out in the Magic Kingdom Cory Doctorow: Little Brother William Flesch:Comeuppance: Costly Signaling, Altruistic Punishment, and Other Biological Components of Fiction Daniel L. Rubinfeld: A Retrospective on U.S. v. Microsoft: Why Does It Resonate Today? Louis Galambos & Peter Temin: The Fall of the Bell System: A Study in Prices & Politics Websites:Electronic Frontier Foundation: Adversarial Interop Case Studies: Privacy without Monopoly: Cory Doctorow: Craphound Cory Doctorow: Pluralistic &, of course:Vernor Vinge: A Fire Upon the Deep (Remember: You can subscribe to this… weblog-like newsletter… here: There’s a free email list. There’s a paid-subscription list with (at the moment, only a few) extras too.)Grammatized Transcript:Brad: Noah! What is the key insight? Noah: Hexapodia is the key insight! Six feet!Brad: And what is that supposed to mean? Noah: That there is some nugget of fact that, if you grasp it correctly and place it in the proper context, will transform your view of the situation and allow you to grok it completely.Brad: And in the context of Vernor Vinge’s amazing and mind-Bending science-fiction space-opera novel A Fire Upon the Deep?Noah: The importance of “hexapodia” is that those sapient bushes…Brad: …riding around on six wheeled scooters have been genetically…Noah: …programmed to be a fifth column of spies and agents for the Great Evil.Brad: However, here we seek different key insights than “hexapodia”. Today we seek them from the genius science-fiction author and social commentator Cory Doctorow. I think of him as—it was Patrick Nielsen Hayden, I think, who said around 2004: that he felt like he was living in the future of Scottish science fiction author, Ken MacLeod. And he wished Ken would just stop. At times I feel that way about Cory. But we are very happy to have him here. His latest book is How to Destroy Surveillance Capitalism IIRC, his latest fiction is Attack Surface. My favorite two books of his are Walkaway and—I think it was your first—Down & Out in the Magic Kingdom.Cory: That's right. Yes. Thank you. Thank you for that very effusive introduction. I decry all claims of genius, though.Brad: Well, we know this is a problem. When one is dealing with an author whose work one has read a lot of—by reading your books.by now I've spent forty hours of my life looking at squiggles on a page or on a screen and, through a complicated mental process, downloaded to my wetware and then run on it a program that is my image of a sub-Turing instantiation of your mind, who has then told me many very entertaining and excellent stories. So I feel like I know you very well…Cory: There’s this infamous and very funny old auto reply that Neal Stephenson used to send to people who emailed him. It basically went: “Ah, I get it. You feel like you were next to me when we were with Hero Protagonist in Alaska fighting off the right-wing militias. But while you were there with me, I wasn't there with you. And so I understand why you want to, like, sit around and talk about our old military campaigns. But I wasn't on that campaign with you.Brad: Yes. It was only my own imago, my created sub-Turing instantiation of your mind that was there…Cory: Indeed. We are getting off of interoperability, which is what I think we're mostly going to talk about. But this is my cogpsy theory of why fiction works, and where the fanfic dispute comes from. Writers have this very precious thing they say. It is: “I'm writing and I'm writing and all of a sudden the characters start telling me what they want to do.” I think that what they actually mean by that is that we all have this completely automatic process by which we try and create models of the people we encounter. Sometimes we never encounter those people. We just encounter second-hand evidence of them. Sometimes those people don't live at all. Think about the people who feel great empathy for imaginary people that cruel catfishers have invented on the internet to document their imaginary battles with cancer. They then feel deeply hurt and betrayed and confused, when this person they've come to empathize with turns out to be a figment of someone else's imagination. I think what happens when you write is that you generate this optical link between two parts of your brain that don't normally talk to each other. There are these words that you are explicitly thinking up that show up on your screen. And then those words are being processed by your eyeballs and being turned into fodder for a model in this very naive way. And then the model gets enough flesh on the bones—so it starts telling you what it wants to do. At this point you are basically breathing your own exhaust fumes here. But it really does take what is at first a somewhat embarrassing process of putting on a puppet show for yourself: “Like, everybody, let’s go on a quest!” “That sounds great!” “Here we go!” It just becomes something where you don't feel like you're explicitly telling yourself a story. Now the corollary of this is that it sort of explains the mystery of why we like stories, right? Why we have these completely involuntary, emotional responses to the imaginary experiences of people who never lived and died and have no consequence. The most tragic death in literature of Romeo and Juliet is as nothing next to the death of the yogurt I digested with breakfast this morning, because that yogurt was alive and now it's dead and Romeo and Juliet never lived, never died, nothing that happened to them happened. Yet you hear about the Romeo and Juliet…Noah: …except that a human reads about Romeo and Juliet and cares…Cory: That is where it matters, yes indeed. But the mechanism by which we care is our build this model which is then subjected to the author's torments, and then we feel empathy for the model. What that means is that the readers, when they're done, if the book hit its aesthetic marks, if it did the thing that literature does to make it aesthetically pleasing—then the reader still has a persistent model in the same way that if your granny dies, you still have a model of your granny, right? You are still there. That is why fanfic exists. The characters continue to have imagined lives. If the characters don't go on having imagined lives, then the book never landed for you. And that’s why authors get so pissy about fanfic. They too have this model that they didn't set out to explicitly create, but it's there. And it's important to their writing process. And if someone is putting data in about that modeled person that is not consistent with the author's own perception of them, that creates enormous dissonance. I think that if we understood this, we would stop arguing about fanfic.Noah: We argue about fanfic?Brad: Oh yes, there are people who do. I remember—in some sense, the most precious thing I ever read was Jo Walton saying that she believed that Ursula K. LeGuin did not understand her own dragons at all…Noah: …Yep, correct…Cory: Poppy Bright—back when Poppy Bright was using that name and had that gender identity—was kicked out of a fan group for Poppy Bright fans on LiveJournal for not understanding Poppy Bright’s literature. I think that's completely true. Ray Bradbury to his dying day insisted that Fahrenheit 451 had nothing to do with censorship but was about the dangers of television…Brad: Fanfic is an old and wonderful tradition. It goes back to Virgil, right? What is the Aeneid but Iliad fanfic?Cory: And what is Genesis but Babylonian fanfic? It goes a lot further back than that…Brad: Today, however, we are here to talk not about humans as narrative-loving animals, not about the sheer weirdness of all the things that we run on our wetware, but about “mandated interoperability”, and similar things—how we are actually going to try to get a handle on the information and attention network economy that we are building out in a more bizarre and irrational way than I would have ever thought possible.Cory: Yes. I don't know if the audience will see this, but the title that you've chosen is: “Mandated Interoperability Is Not Going to Work”. I am more interested in how we make mandated interoperability work. I don't think it's a dead letter. I think that to understand what's what's happened you have to understand that the main efficiency that large firms bring to the market is regulatory capture. In an industry with only four or five major companies, all of the executives almost by definition must have worked at one or two of the other ones. Think of Sheryl Sandberg, moving from Google to Facebook. They form an emerging consensus. Sometimes they all sit around the same a boardroom table. Remember that photo of the tech leaders around the table at the top of Trump Tower? They converge on a set of overlapping lobbying priorities. They have a lot of excess rents that they can extract to mobilize lobbying in favor of that. One of the things that these firms have done in the forty years of the tech industry is to move from a posture where they were all upstarts and were foursquare for interoperability with the existing platforms—because they understood that things like network advantages were mostly important in as much as they conferred a penalty for switching, and that if you could switch easily then the network advantage disappeared. If you could read Microsoft Office documents on a Mac, then the fact that there's a huge network effect of Microsoft Office documents out there is irrelevant. Why? Because you can just run switch ads, and say every document ever created with Microsoft Office is now a reason to own a Mac. But as they became dominant, and as their industries have become super-concentrated, they have swung against interoperability. I think that we need a couple of remedies for that. I think that we need some orderly structured remedies in the forms of standards. We need to check whether or not those standards are mandated. And we’ve seen how those standards can be subverted. And so I think we need something that stops dominant firms from subverting standards—a penalty that they pay that is market-based, that impacts their bottom line, and that doesn't rely on a slow-moving or possibly captured regulator but that, instead, can actually just emerge in real time. That is what I call “adversarial interoperability”: reverse engineering and scraping and bots. Steve Jobs paying some engineers to reverse engineer Microsoft Office file formats and make iWork suite, instead of begging Bill Gates to rescue the Mac…Brad: …But he did beg Bill Gates to rescue the Mac…Cory: He did that as well. But that wasn't the whole story. He had a carrot and a stick. He had: let's have a managed, structured market. Right. And then he had: what happens if you don't come up to my standards is that we have alternatives, because we can just reverse-engineer your stuff. Look at, for example, the way that we standardized the formatting of personal finance information. There were standards that no one adopted. Then Mint came along, and they wrote bots, and you would give the bots your login credentials for your bank, and they would go and scrape your account data and put it into a single unified interface. This was adversarial interoperability. This spurred the banks to actually come into compliance with the standard. Rather than having this guerrilla warfare, they wanted a quantifiable business process that they could understand from year to year that wouldn't throw a lot of surprises that would disrupt their other other plans.Brad: Let me back up: In the beginning, the spirit of Charles Babbage moved upon the face of the waters, and Babbage said: “Let there be electromechanical calculating devices”. And there was IBM. And IBM then bred with DARPA in the form of the Sage Air Defense, and begat generation upon generation of programmers. And from them was born FORTRAN and System 360. And FORTRAN and IBM System 360 bestrode the world like the giants of the Nephilim, and Babbage saw it, and it was good. And there was nibbling around the edges from Digital Equipment and Data General. Yea, until one day out of Silicon Valley, there emerged crystallized sand doped with germanium atoms, and everything was upset as out of CERN and there emerged the http protocol. All the companies that had been construct their own walled information gardens, and requiring you to sign up with AOL and CompuServe and Genie and four or five others in order to access databases through gopher and whatever—they found themselves overwhelmed by the interoperability tide of the internet. And for fifteen years there was interoperability and openness and http and rss, and everyone frantically trying to make their things as interoperable as possible so that they could get their share of this absolutely exploding network of human creativity and ideas. And then it all stopped. People turned on a dime. They began building their own walled gardens again. Noah: I feel like we did just get Neal Stephenson on this podcast…Brad: Sub-Turing! It's a sub-Turing instantiation of a Neal Stephenson imago!Cory: I think that your point of view or generational outlook or whatever creates a different lens than mine. I think about it like this: In 1979 we got an Apple II+. In 1980, we got a modem card for it. Right. By 1982, there were a lot of BBS’s and that was great. Even though we were in Canada, the BBS software was coming up from the American market. We had local dial-up BBS's running software that was being mailed around on floppies…Brad: Whish whish whine… Beep beep… Whish… I am trying to make modem noises…Cory: that sounded like V.42bis. And then by 1984 there were the PC clones. Everyone had a computer. This company that no one had ever heard of—Microsoft—suddenly grew very big. They created this dynamism in the industry. You could have a big old giant, like IBM. You could have two guys in a garage, like Microsoft. The one could eclipse the other. IBM couldn't even keep control of its PCs. They were being cloned left and right. And then Microsoft became the thing that had slain. It became a giant. And the DOJ intervened. Even though Microsoft won the suit ultimately—they weren't broken up…Brad: They did back off from destroying Google…Cory: What’s missing from that account is the specific mechanisms. We got modems because we got cheap, long distance. We got that because 1982 we had the ATT breakup. Leading up to the breakup shifted the microeconomics. People ATT were all: don’t do that. It's going to piss off the enforcers. We've got this breakup to deal withBrad: Yes. The enforcers, the enforcers are important. Both the Modification of Final Judgment. And ATT’s anticipatory reaction to it. Plus the periodic attempted antitrust kneecappings of IBM. They meant that when people in IBM turned around and said: “Wait a minute. When we started the PC project, John F. Akers told us we needed to find something for Mary Gates’s boy Bill to do, because he sat next to her at United Way board meetings. But this is turning into a monster. We need to squelch them.” And from the C-suite came down: “No, our antitrust position is sufficiently fraught that we can't move to squash Microsoft.”Cory: Yes. IBM spent 12 years in antitrust litigation. Hell, they called it. Antitrust as Vietnam. They essentially had been tied by the ankles to the back of DOJ’s bumper and dragged up and down a gravel road for 12 years. They were outspending the entire DOJ legal department every single year for that one case. And one of the things that DOJ really didn't like about IBM was tying software to hardware. And so when Phoenix makes the IBM ROM clone, IBM is like: Yeah, whatever. Any costs we pay because of the clone ROM are going to be lower than the costs we will incur if we get back into antitrust hell—and the same goes for Microsoft. They got scared off. What we were seeing, what it felt like, the optimism that I think we felt and of which we were aware was—it looked like we'd have protocols and not products, and we'd have a pluralistic internet, not five giant websites filled with screenshots of text from the other. But our misapprehension was not due to technological factors. It was our failing to understand that like Bork and Reagan had shivved antitrust in the guts in 1980, and it was bleeding out. So by the time Google was big enough to do to everyone else what Microsoft had not been able to do to them, there was no one there to stop Google.Noah: Cory, let me ask a question here. I'm the designated grump of the podcast. Brad is the designated history expounder. I want to know: Why do we care right right now? I've written about interoperability with regards to electric cars and other emerging technologies. What things in the software world are people hurt by not having interoperability for? What are the big harms in software to consumers or to other stakeholders from lack of interoperability?Cory: Let me frame the question before I answer it. We have market concentration in lots of different sectors for similar reasons, mergers. We should have different remedies for them. We heard about Babbage. I would talk about Turing and the universality of the computer. Interoperability represents a pro-competitive remedy to anti-competitive practices that is distinct and specific to computers. I don't know if you folks know about the middle-gauge muddle in Australia. Independent states and would-be rail barons laid their own gauge rail across the country. You can't get a piece of rolling stock from one edge of the country to the other. For 150 years they have been trying to build designs that can drop one set of wheels where the track needs it. And none of them have worked. And now their solution is to tear up rails and put down new rails. If that was a software object, we just write a compatibility layer. Where we have these durable anti-competitive effects in the physical world, that sometimes necessitate these very difficult remedies, we can actually facilitate decentralized remedies where people can seize the means of computation to create digital remedies: self-determination, the right to decide how to talk to their friends and under what circumstances, as opposed to being forced to choose between being a social person and being private…Brad: For me, at least there are lots and lots of frictions that keep me from seeing things that I would like to see, and keep me from cross-referencing things that I would like to cross-references. There are bunches of things I've seen on Twitter and Facebook in the past that, because they are inside the walled gardens. I definitely am not able to get them out quickly and easily and cheaply enough to put them into the wider ideas flow. And I feel stupider as a result. And then there are all the people who have been trapped by their own kind of cognitive functioning, so that they are now a bunch of zombies with eyeballs glued to the screen being fed terror so that they can be sold fake diabetes cures and overpriced gold funds…Noah: That’s a good angle right here. If we look at the real harms that are coming through the internet right now—I worry about Kill Zones, and of course I worry about the next cool thing getting swallowed up by predatory acquisitions. That's our legitimate worry for sure. When I look at the internet and what bad the internet is causing, I do not see the lack of alternative information sources as the biggest problem. I see the people who are the biggest problem as coming precisely from alternative information sources. This is not to say we should get rid of those sources. This is not to say we should have mass censorship and ban all the anti-vax sites. I'm not saying that. But if we look at the issues—there was a mass banning of Trump and many of the Q-Anons from the main social media websites, and yet a vast underground network of alternative right wing media has sprung up.Cory: It seems like they were able to. Let me redirect from the harms that Brad raised. I think those are perfectly good harms. But I want to go to some broader harms. In the purely digital online world, we had some people we advised at EFF who were part of a medical cancer previvor group—people who have a gene that indicates a very high likelihood of cancer, women. They had been aggressively courted by Facebook at a time when they were trying to grow up their medical communities. And one of the members of this group who wasn't a security researcher or anything was just noodling around on Facebook, and found that you could enumerate the membership of every group on Facebook, including hers. She reported that to Facebook. That's obviously a really significant potential harm to people in the medical communities. She reported it to Facebook. Facebook characterized her report as a feature request and won't fix it. She made more of a stink. They said: fine, we're going to do a partial fix because it would have interfered with their ad-tech stack to do a full fix. So you have to be a member of a group to enumerate the group. This was still insufficient. But they had this big problem with inertia—with the collective action problem of getting everyone who's now on Facebook to leave Facebook and go somewhere else. They were all holding each other mutually hostage. Now you could imagine that they could have set up a Diaspora instance, and they could have either had a mandated- or standards-defined interface that allowed those people to talk to their friends on Facebook. And they could have a little footer at the bottom of each message: today 22% of the traffic in this group originated on our diaspora, once that tips to 60% were all leaving, and quitting Facebook. They might do this with a bot, without Facebook's cooperation, in the absence of Facebook's legal right to prevent those bots. Facebook has weaponized the computer fraud and abuse act and other laws to prevent people from making these bots to allow them to inter-operate with Facebook—even though, when Facebook started, the way that it dealt with its issues with MySpace was creating MySpace spots, where you could input your login and password, and it would get your waiting MySpace messages and put them in your Facebook inbox and let you reply to them. Facebook has since sued Power Ventures for doing the same thing. They’re engaged in legal activity against other bot producers that are doing beneficial pro-user things. That's one harm. Another harm that I think is really important here is repair. Independent repairs are about 5% of US GDP. The lack of access to repair is of particular harm to people who are already harmed the most: it raises the cost of being poor. The ability to control repair is a source of windfall profits. Tim Cook advised his investors in 2019, the year after he killed twenty right-to-repair bills at these state level, that the biggest threat to Apple's profits was that people were fixing their devices instead of throwing them away. It’s an environmental problem, and so on. The biggest problem with right-to-repair is not that the companies don't provide their data or the diagnostic codes or encrypt diagnostic codes. The problem is that you face felony prosecution under the CFAA and DMCA, as well as ancillary stuff like non-compete and non-disclosure, and so on through federal trade secrecy law, if you create tools to repairs without the cooperation of the vendors. This is a real harm that arises out of the rules that have been exploited to block interoperability.Brad: This goes deep, right? This affects not just tech but the world, or, rather, because tech has eaten the world, hard-right unsympathetic state representatives from rural Missouri are incredibly exercised about right-to-repair, and the fact that John Deere does not have enough internal capacity to repair all the tractors that need to be repaired in the three weeks before the most critical-need part of the year.Cory: This is an important fracture line. There are people who have a purely instrumental view: me my constituents need tractor repair, so I will do whatever it takes to get them tractor repair. In California we got a terrible compromise on this brokered with John Deere—it was basically a conduct remedy instead of a structural change. Right. Something I questioned a lot about Klobuchar’s antitrust story is that she keeps saying: I believe that we need to jettison the 40-year consumer-welfare standard and return to a more muscular antitrust that is predicated on social harms that include other stakeholders besides consumers paying higher prices, and I have a bipartisan consensus on this because Josh Hawley agrees with me, but Josh Hawley does not agree with her. Josh Hawley just wants to get Alex Jones back on Twitter, right. And that's like, it begins and ends there.She might be able to get the inertia going where Josh Hawley is put in the bind where he either has to brief for a more broad antitrust cause of action that includes social harms, or he has to abandon Alex Jones to not being on Twitter. And maybe he'll take Alex Jones if that's the price. But I do think that that's a huge fracture line, that there are honest brokers who don't care about the underlying principle and the long run effects of bad policy. And there are people who just want to fix something for a political point or immediate benefit.Brad: Fixing it to the extent that fixing something scores a political point—that does mean actually doing good things for your constituents, who include not just Alex Jones, but the guys in rural Missouri who want their John Deere tractors repaired cheaply.Cory: This is how I feel about de platforming. I was angry about deplatforming for 10 years, when it was pipeline activists and sex workers and drag queens who were being forced to use their real name, and trans people were forced to use their dead names, and political dissidents in countries where they could be rounded up and tortured and murdered if they adhere to Facebook’s real names policy, and all of that stuff. First they came for the drag queens, and I said nothing because I wasn't a drag queen. Then they came for the far right conspiratorialists. But they're fair-weather friends. It's like the split between open source and free software where, you know, the benefits of technological self-determination were subsumed into the instrumental benefits of having access to the source so you could improve it. What we have is free software for the tech monopolists,  for they can see the source and modify the source of everything on their backend. And we have open source for the rest of us. We can inspect the source, we can improve their software for them, but we don't get to choose how their backends run. And since everything loops through their backends, we no longer have software freedom. That's the risk if you decouple instrumental from ethical propositions. You can end up with a purely instrumental fix that leaves the ethical things that worry you untouched, and in fact in a declining spiral.Noah: I want to argue. I don’t think we don't get enough argument on this podcast. I want to inject a little here. A turning point for my generation in terms of our use of the internet was Gamergate. That happened in 2014. Gamergate largely morphed after that into the the Trump movement and the alt-right. Gamergate destroyed what I knew as online nerd culture. It was an extinction-level event for the idea that nerd culture existed apart from the rest of society. It was a terrible thing. Maybe nerd culture couldn't have lasted, but a giant subculture that I enjoyed and partially defined myself by as a young person was gone. And not only that, not only me—I’m centering myself and making all about me here, but a lot of people got harassed. Some good friends of mine got harassed. It was really terrible as an event in and of itself, irrespective of the long-term effects. Even Moot, a big, huge defender of anonymity and free speech, eventually banned Gamergate topics from 4chan. That was the moment when I realized that the idea of free speech as free speech guarded by individual forums or platforms separately from the government—that that idea was dead. When Moot banned banned Gamergate from 4chan, I said: okay, we're in a different era. That was the Edward R Murrow moment. That was the moment we started going back toward Dan Rather and Edward R Murrow and the big three television companies in the 1950s—when Moot banned Gamergate. Maybe this just has to happen. Maybe bad actors are able to always co-opt a fragmented internet. There’s no amount of individual Nazi punching that can get the Nazis out. If you have people whose speech is entirely focused on destroying other people's right to speak, as Gamergate was, then then free speech means nothing because no one feels free to speak. I wonder whether fragmentation of platforms makes it harder to police things like Gamergate and thus causes Nazis to fractally permeate each little space on the internet and every little pool of the internet. Wherever we have one big pool, we have economies of scale in guarding that pool. Brad: That is: what you are saying is that an information world of just four monopolistic, highly oligopolistic, walled gardens is bad, but an internet in which you cannot build any wall around your garden is bad as well. Then what we really need is a hundred walled gardens blooming, perhaps. But I want to hear what Cory has to say about this and interoperability.Cory: I found that so interesting. I had to get out some, no paper and take notes. First of all, I would trace back before the Gamergate issue. Before it was the Sad Puppies, the disruption of the Hugo awards by far-right authors was before Gamergate. It was the same ringleaders. Gamergate was the second act of sad puppies. So I'm there with you. I was raised by Trotskyists. I want to say that, listening to you describe how you feel about nerd culture after you discovered that half of your colleagues and friends were violent misogynists—it sounds a lot like how Trotskyists talk about Stalinists, right. You have just recounted the the internet nerd version of Homage to Catalonia. Orwell goes to Spain to fight the fascist and a Stalinist shoots him through the throat.We in outsider or insurgent or subcultural movements often have within our conception of a group people who share some characteristics and diverge on others. We paper over those divergences until they fracture. Think about the punk Nazi-punk split.  This anti-authoritarian movement is united around a common aesthetic and music and a shared cultural identity. And there's this political authoritarian anti-authoritarian things sitting in the middle. And they just don't talk about it until they start talking about it—Dead Kennedys record: Nazi punks f-—- off. And here we are, still in the midst of that reckoning. That's where Stormfront comes from and all the rest of it. This is not distinct to the internet. It is probably unrealistic, it's definitely unrealistic for there to be a regime in which conduct that is lawful can find no home. Not that not that it won't happen in your home, but that it won't happen in anyone's home. The normative remedy where we just make some conduct that is lawful so far beyond the pale that everyone ceases to engage in it—that has never really existed. Right. You can see that with conduct that we might welcome today, as you know, socially fine and conduct that we dislike—whether that's, you know, polyamory. You go back to the future house, where Judy Merrill and, and Fred Pohl and C.M. Kornbluth lived in the thirties, and they had this big, weird polyamorous household of leftist science fiction writers write at a time when it was unmentionably weird to do it. And today it's pretty mainstream—at least in some parts of California. In the absence of an actual law against it, it's probably going to happen. The first question is: is our response to people who have odious ideas that we want there to be nowhere where they can talk about it? If that's the case, we'll probably have to make a law against them. Noah: Right. But hold on. Is it ideas, or is it actions? If you harass someone you're not expressing an idea, you're stopping them from expressing theirs. Cory: Absolutely. So, so the issue is: that there are Nazis talking to other Nazis is okay. It's just that when Nazis talked to other Nazis and figured out how to go harass someone. Let me give you an example of someone I know who is in the midst of one of these harassment campaigns. Now there's a brilliant writer, a librettist, novelist, and comics author named Cecile Castellucci. She also used to be like a pioneering Riot Girl and toured with Sloan. So she's just this great polymath person. And because she's a woman who writes comics, men on the internet hate her. And there's a small and dedicated cadre of these men who figured out a way to mess with women on Twitter. They send you a DM that is really violent and disgusting. They wait until they see the read receipt, and then they delete it. Twitter, to its credit, will not accept screenshotted DMs as evidence of harassment, because it would be very easy for those same men to forge DMs from their targets and get those people kicked off Twitter. Then what they do is they revictimize their targets by making public timeline mentions that comport with Twitter's rules unless you've seen the private message. And they make references to the private message that trigger the emotions from the private message over and over again. It is a really effective harassment technique. The women they use it against are stuck on Twitter, because their professional lives require them to be on Twitter, right. Their careers would end to some important degree if they weren't part of this conversation on Twitter. Now, imagine if you had Gotham Clock Tower, Barbara Gordon's secret home, which was a Mastodon instance that was federated with Twitter, either through a standard or through a mandate or through adversarial interoperability. There could be a dozen women there who could agree that among themselves that they're willing to treat screenshotted DMs as evidence of harassment, so that they could block and silence and erase the all presence of these horrible men. We'd still want Twitter to do something about them, but if some of those men slipped through Twitter’s defenses as they will, not just because they can't catch everyone when they're at the scale, but because the range of normal activities at scale is so broad: a hundred million people have a hundred and one million use cases every day. Then those people are that, that those people could still be on Twitter, but not subject to the harassment of Twitter. It's a way for them. Maybe, in the way that we talk about states being democracy's laboratories, maybe these satellite communities could pioneer moderation techniques that range beyond takedowns or account terminations or warning labels. There are so many different ways we could deal with this. You could render some comments automatically in Comic Sans. They could try them and see if they work. And they could be adopted back into main Twitter. That's what self-determination gets you: it gets you the right to set the rules of your discourse, and it gets you the right to decide who you trust to be within the group of people who make those rules.Brad: So if we had the real interoperable world, we would have lots that would screen things according to someone's preferences. And you could sign up to have that bot included in your particular bot list to pre-process and filter, so that you don't have to wade through the garbage.Cory: Sure. And there might be some conduct that we consider so far beyond the pale that we actually criminalize it. Then we can take the platforms where that conduct routinely takes place and things like reforms to 230 would cease to be nearly so important. We would be saying that if you are abetting unlawful conduct, when we see a remedy for preventing this unlawful conduct, and you refusing to implement that remedy, we might defenestrate you. We might do something worse. Think of how the phone network works.It is standardized. There are these standard interchanges. There's lots of ways it can be abused. Every now and and then, from some Caribbean Island, we get a call that fakes a number from a Caribbean Island, and if you call it back, you're billed at $20 a minute for a long distance to have someone go: no, it was a wrong number. When that happens, the telco either cleans up its act or all the other telcos break their connection to it. There's certain conduct that's unlawful on the phone network, not unlawful because it cheats the phone company—not toll fraud—but unlawful because it's bad for the rest of the world, like calling bomb threats in. Either the customer gets terminated or the operator is disciplined by law. All of those things can work without having to be in this in this regime where you have paternalistic control, where you vest all of your hope in a God-King who faces no penalty if he makes a bad call. They say: we’ll defend your privacy when the FBI wants to break the iPhone. But when they threaten to shut down our manufacturing, we'll let them spy on you even as they're opening up concentration camps and putting a million people in them.Brad: Was that the real serpent in all of these walled gardens? Was the advertising-supported model the thing that turns your eyeballs into the commodity to be enserfed. If we had the heaven of micropayments, would we manage to avoid all of this?Cory: We've had advertising for a long time. The toxicity of advertising is pretty new. Mostly what's toxic about advertising is surveillance, and not because I think the surveillance allows them to do feats of mind control. I think everyone who's ever claimed to have mind control turned out to be lying to themselves or everyone else. Certainly there is not a lot of evidence for it. You have these Facebook large-scale experiments: 60 million people subjected to a nonconsensual, psychological intervention to see if they can be convinced to vote. And you get 0.38% effect size. Facebook should be disqualified from running a lemonade stand if we catch them performing nonconsensual experiments on 60 million people. But, at the same time, 0.38% effect sizes are not mind control. They do engage in a lot of surveillance. It’s super-harmful because it leaks, because it allows them to do digital redlining, because it allows them to reliably target fascists with messages that if they were uttered in public, where everyone could see them, might cause the advertiser to be in bad odor. They can take these dog whistles and they can whisper them to the people who won’t spread them around. Those are real harms. You have to ask yourself: why don't we have a privacy law that prohibits the nonconsensual gathering of data and imposes meaningful penalties on people who breach data? I was working in the EU. GDPR was passed. The commissioners I spoke to there said: no one has ever lobbied me as hard as I've been lobbied now. Right now we have more concentration in ad tech than in any other industry, I think, except for maybe eyeglasses, glass bottles, and professional wrestling.Brad: Are we then reduced to: “Help us, Tim Cook! You are our only hope!”?Cory: I think that that's wrong, because Tim Cook doesn't want to give you self-determination. Tim wants you to be subject to his determinations. Among those determinations are some good ones. He doesn't want Facebook to own your eyeballs. You go, Tim. But he also wants you to drop your iPhone in a shredder every 18 months, rather than getting it fixed.Brad: Although I must say, looking at the M1 chip, I'm very tempted to take my laptop and throw it in the shredder today to force me to buy a new one.Noah: It's interesting how iPhone conquered. And yet very few people still use Macs. Steve Jobs’s dream was never actualized.Cory: Firms that are highly concentrated distort policy outcomes, and ad tech is highly concentrated. And we have some obviously distorted policy outcomes. We don't have a federal privacy law with a private right of action. There are no meaningful penalties for breaches. We understand that breaches have compounding effects. A breach that doesn't contain any data that is harmful to the user can be merged with another breach and together they can be harmful—and that's cumulative. And data has a long half-life. Just this week, Ed Felton's old lab published a paper on how old phone numbers can be used to defeat two-factor authentication. You go through a breach, find all the phone numbers that are associated with the two-factor authentication. Then you can go to Verizon and ask: which of these phone numbers is available? Which of these people has changed their phone number? Then you can request that phone number on a new signup—and then you can break into their bank account and steal all their money. Old breaches are cumulative. Yet we still have this actual-damages regime for breaches instead of statutory damages that take account of the downstream effects and these unquantifiable risks that are imposed on the general public through the nonconsensual collection and retention of data under conditions that inevitably lead to breaches.Brad: Okay. Well, I'm very down. So are we ready to end? I think we should end on this downer note.Noah: My favorite Cory Doctorow books also end on a downer note.Brad: Yes. Basically that the political economy does not allow us to move out of this particular fresh semi-hell in which we're embedded. But you had something to say?Cory: Everybody hates monopolies now. So we'll just team up with the people angry about professional wrestling monopolies and eyeglass monopolies and beer monopolies, and we'll form a Prairie Fire United Front of people who will break the monopoly because we're all on the same side—even though we're fighting our different corners of it—the same way that ecology took people who cared about owls and put them on the side of people who care about ozone layers, even though charismatic, nocturnal birds are not the gaseous composition of the upper atmosphere.Brad: Hey, if you have the charismatic megafauna on your side, you’re golden.Noah: How did the original Prairie Fire work out? Let's let's wrap it up there. This is really great episode. Cory, you're awesome. Thanks so much for coming on and feel free to come back in time. Cory: I’d love to. I've just turned in a book about money laundering and cryptocurrency—a noir cyberthreat thriller. Maybe when that comes out, I can come on and we can talk about that. That feels like it's up your guys' alley.Brad: That would be great. Okay. So, as we end this: Noah, what is the key insight?Noah: Hexapodia is the key insight. And what are the other key insights that we got from this day?Brad: DeLong: I'm just depressed. I had a riff about how we got interoperability right with the creation of the market economy and the end of feudalism—and how that was a very lucky historical accident. But I don't see possibilities for an equivalent lucky historical accident in our future.Noah: I have a key insight. It is a little vague, but hopefully it will be good fodder for future episodes. The problems in our society are not diametrically opposed. We have to find optimal interior-solution trade-offs between things that have a non-zero dot product. Sometimes solving the problem with one thing doesn't necessarily create exactly equal and opposite problems on the other side. Instead, it changes the trade-offs that you face with regard to other problems. These things become very complex. You have things like the antitrust problem and things like the Nazi problem. In your society addressing one doesn't necessarily worsen the other. More action against Nazis doesn't necessarily mean less action in antitrust. It's simply means you have to think about antitrust in a slightly different way, and vice versa. That does make these institutional problems very difficult to solve.Brad: Cory, do you wish to add a key insight,Cory: A key insight is: always keep a trash bag in your car.Brad: This has been Brad DeLong and Noah Smith's podcast this week with the amazing Cory Doctorow. Thank you all very much for listening. Get full access to Brad DeLong's Grasping Reality at braddelong.substack.com/subscribe

Quina do Mundo
EP 19 - FICÇÃO CIENTÍFICA

Quina do Mundo

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 27, 2020 73:47


Qual é o Valor da Ficção Científica? Qual é seu diferencial frente à outras formas literárias? Hoje discutimos assuntos especulativos, como: Mad Max, Frankenstein, Super Heróis, John Campbell, Star Wars, Science Fantasy, Luciano de Samósata, Johannes Kepler, De Volta Para o Futuro, Júlio Verne, Perdido em Marte, SciFi x Alta Literatura, Hard Sci-fi, Pulp, Rede Manchete, Duna, Arthur C. Clarke, Isaac Asimov, A Mosca, Matt Damon Pé Frio, Mick Jagger, Steampunk, The Big Bang Theory (série lixo), Senhor dos Anéis, Interstellar x Super Xuxa Contra o Baixo Astral, Os Trapalhões na Guerra dos Planetas, "Woke", The Last Jedi, Rádio Novela, Sad Puppies, Duna de David Lynch e Alejandro Jodorowsky. Quina do Mundo é André Gomes, Paulo Jabardo e Tiago Januzzi. Nosso site: www.quinadomundo.live Música tema por Rafa Almeida (@rafalemosalmeida) e Tiago Januzzi (@tjanuzzi). Edição de Tiago Januzzi. Cloud Nine by Hayden Folker | https://soundcloud.com/hayden-folker Music promoted by https://www.free-stock-music.com Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.en_US

Galactic Driftwood
E03 - The Sci-fi of the People

Galactic Driftwood

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 21, 2018 62:11


Season 1, Episode 3 of the Galactic Driftwood Podcast featuring a discussion on the new Captain Kirk Status in Riverside, Iowa,  the new "In Search Of" series, Altered Carbon season 2 News, Disney & Fox Merger, Sad Puppies and more, and may include some spoilers for people that haven't watched the latest episodes of those shows.

Galactic Driftwood
E03 - The Sci-fi of the People

Galactic Driftwood

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 20, 2018 62:11


Season 1, Episode 3 of the Galactic Driftwood Podcast featuring a discussion on the new Captain Kirk Status in Riverside, Iowa,  the new "In Search Of" series, Altered Carbon season 2 News, Disney & Fox Merger, Sad Puppies and more, and may include some spoilers for people that haven't watched the latest episodes of those shows.

Earp Fiction Addiction Podcast
People Let Me Tell Ya 'Bout My Best Friend

Earp Fiction Addiction Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 23, 2018 62:38


This week BFF's DarkWiccan and Delayne spend the episode discussing their four favorite 'WynHaught' BrOTP fics! Then they chat with author isawET to talk about her fic - 'Lucky Dutch'! Read the Fics! rough beginnings by Timballisto  Because we're just kids, really by LambSauced  The Hard Way Home by flyingfanatic  lucky dutch by isawet   This Week's Reverse Sponsor is: GalPalStitches    isawET's Desert Island Fic: ‘Let My Demons Lie’ by TheGaySmurf, aka ‘Sad Puppies’ 

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Supercontext: an autopsy of media

The 2015 Hugo Awards showed us what happens when science fiction/fantasy fandom turns on itself. A year later we look back at the arguments and manipulations of all the parties involved: Sad Puppies, Rabid Puppies and everyone else. Given how similar this controversy’s rhetoric is to the 2016 presidential election, should we look at cultural moments like this as predictors of larger issues in society? If you’re interested in how the Hugos went this year, here’s Verge’s summary of the event.  iTunes direct link Google Play direct link Additional Resources: Who Won Science Fiction’s Hugo Awards, and Why It Matters  Oh No, the Puppies Are Back for the 2016 Hugo Awards—and As Angry As Ever Hugo awards shortlist dominated by rightwing campaign The Puppy Wars Resume by George R.R. Martin Hugo Award nominations spark criticism over diversity in sci-fi Hugo Award Withdrawls Are the Hugo nominees really the best sci-fi books of the year? This year’s Hugo Award nominees are a messy political controversy The Final Lessons From This Year’s Hugo Awards Clusterfrak  

Book Club for Masochists: a Readers’ Advisory Podcast

In this episode we discuss Space Opera and all the endless tangents. This is a LONG conversation (we almost split it in two, but we’re trying to catch up episodes to our current reading topic). We talk about losing our solid footing on genre definitions, defining the term “worldbuilding”, when re-reading books from your youth goes horribly wrong, wondering just what is up with those TV and movie tie-ins, misogyny infecting Sci-Fi classics (Oh, hello there Sad Puppies), the delight of scientists reading Sci-Fi, and so much more. Your Hosts This Episode Anna Ferri | Meghan Whyte | Matthew Murray | Amanda Wanner Space Opera We Read (or kinda): Recommended Retribution Falls by Chris Wooding (lukewarm recommendation by a reader who is deeply ambivalent about anything speculative, Sci-Fi, or Fantasy in nature) Rendezvous with Rama by Arthur C. Clarke (not spectacular but a slow-burn, exploratory read) Diving into the Wreck by Kristine Kathryn Rusch (difficult to like narrator warning) Ancillary Mercy (and the entire Ancillary Justice series) (HIGHLY recommended series) Accessing the Future: A Disability-Themed Anthology of Speculative Fiction edited by Kathryn Allan Lightless by C.A. Higgins Read Sassinak by Anne McCaffrey and Elizabeth Moon Knights of Sidonia, Vol. 1 by Tsutomu Nihei, translated by Kumar Sivasubramanian Space Opera edited by Brian W. Aldiss (Features stories from 1900 (!) - 1972. Most are from the 1950s) More Adventures on Other Planets edited by Donald A. Wollheim Stitching Snow by R. C. Lewis (Not so much Space Opera and not enough girl mechanic) The Year’s Best Military SF & Space Opera 2015 edited by David Afsharirad Did Not Finish Armada by Ernest Cline (read this Wikipedia article about a video game urban legend instead) Red Rising by Pierce Brown Use of Weapons by Iain M. Banks (would try another one by this author) The Star Dancers by Spider Robinson and Jeanne Robinson The Sheriff of Yrnameer by Michael Rubens  A Deepness in the Sky by Vernor Vinge (so long - for 900+ pages, would prefer to try the better known A Fire Upon the Deep, which was recommended by another group member) The Warrior’s Apprentice by Lois McMaster Bujold (recommended to us - ran out of time this month; try it as an audiobook?) Koko the Mighty by Kieran Shea (really enjoyed Koko Takes a Holiday) Other titles and media mentioned Mass Effect video games are totally Space Opera, especially if you read all the internal game encyclopedia entries like Matthew. The Mote in God’s Eye by Larry Niven, and Jerry Pournelle The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin (not exactly Space Opera but totally recommended) Ender’s Game by Orson Scott Card Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein - Military Sci-Fi or Space Opera?? Space Opera by Jack Vance - An opera troupe in Space Red Spider White Web by Misha Nogha The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams (Have you not read this yet? It’s short - go read it!) District 9 movie Firefly TV series & Serenity movie & the Firefly comics (pretty much all recommended highly) Please skip Sassinak and read Elizabeth Moon’s excellent connected series set in the world of Paksenarrion (Fantasy not Sci-Fi), or at least read the three books of The Deed of Paksenarrion. All those zillion Pern books (Science Fantasy series) by Anne McCaffrey Dune by Frank Herbert (hefty but worth a read - recommended) The Martian by Andy Weir (about space but not Space Opera and definitely recommended) Transformers: More than Meets the Eye, Vol. 1 (comic book series) (recommended even if you don't care about Transformers. Really! ) Ascension (Tangled Axon, #1) by Jacqueline Koyanagi (Meghan mis-spoke and called this book “Ascendent”) After Man by Dougal Dixon (so cool!) Octavia’s Brood edited by Walidah Imarisha, and Adrienne Maree Brown Samuel Delaney  - We discuss Dhalgren which is not space focused, but Delaney has a few space books to try. Illuminae by Amie Kaufman, and Jay Kristoff (YA Space Opera - read before the month, recommended) A Confusion of Princes by Garth Nix (read after the episode, recommended) Links etc. OK Go Upside Down & Inside Out (music video shot in zero gravity) The review of Ancillary Justice Anna tried to read without being spoiled for the book The Wikipedia article on Space Opera bring up many aspects of the definition we discussed and is worth a skim, at least. Scientists read sci-fi and have opinions about it Read some stuff (here, here, and here are a few to start with) about Sad Puppies if you care about issues of diversity in publishing, book awards, and media more generally. Check it out: Afro futurism Book Riot sympathises with Sci-Fi fans Xenoanthropology Questions What (the heck) is space opera? (We thought we knew! We were so naive.) What is Worldbuilding? Any suggestions of your favourite instances of worldbuilding? Is bug punk real? Who else wants a “Ten Rules to Break When Dating a Space Pirate” from Sarah MacLean? Are Star Trek tie-in novels Space Opera? What’s the relationship between Space Opera/space-based Sci-Fi and the history of Colonialism? Check out our Pinterest board and Tumblr posts for all the Space Opera people in our club read (or tried to read), and follow us on Twitter!

Krypton Radio - Docking Bay 94

Podcast of Docking Bay 94's live show from April 28, 2016.

VerdHugos Podcast
VerdHugos S04E07, con la colaboración de Alexander Páez y Armando Saldaña

VerdHugos Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 26, 2016


Volvemos al ataque. En este episodio nos acompañan Alexander Páez (de Donde Acaba el Infinito, The Spoiler Club, Neo Nostromo y El Peso del Aire) y Armando Saldaña (de Postcards from the Edge).Ilustración de The Builders, de Daniel PolanskyNos ha salido un capítulo extenso. El resumen de contenidos lo podéis encontrar a continuación:Hemos hablado de las nominaciones a los premios Hugo, a los Locus, a los Arthur C. Clarke y a los Ignotus.Desde el otro lado del charco se ha expresado alguna queja por la progresiva pérdida de importancia de la ciencia ficción frente a la fantasía en los premios Hugo.Hemos valorado el impacto de la campaña de los Sad Puppies (el nuevo Gran Hermano) en las diferentes categorías del Hugo.Leticia Lara ha defendido Binti, de Nnedi Okorafor, porque alguien tenía que hacerlo y ella tiene buen corazón.Miquel dice que no hay para tanto con The Builders, de Daniel Polansky, pero mola un montón.Por primera vez, Alexander dice que no se le haga caso a Miquel. Elías dice lo mismo, pero no es la primera vez.Los VerdHugos descubren un complot anglofóbico en los Hugo y lo relacionan con la falta de nominación (en los Hugo y en otros premios) del Luna: New Moon de Iain McDonald.Se ha producido una discusión sobre My Little Pony y otras series del mismo calibre.Alexánder Páez da una sorpresa (eso cree él) sobre sus gustos literarios (o falta de ellos).Se produce cierto debate en torno al potencial aburrimiento o no de Ex Machina, al margen de su interés. Miquel tiene razón.Nos enteramos de que en Chez Combarro la nueva generación está a la espera del Episodio VIII de Star Wars, como debe ser.Se produce un panegírico nostálgico sobre Supernatural y sus buenas temporadas.Descubrimos que olvidarse una temporada de la fantasía épica es como pasarse al vegeterianismo o a la leche sin lactosa: de golpe te sientes feliz y te sobra la energía.Hay una discusión interesante sobre las diferencias de espíritu en las nominaciones de los Hugo y las los de los Arthur C. Clarke.¡Felicitamos a Aliette de Bodard por su segundo tiento a la maternidad!Se plantean dudas sobre si la buena de las trilogías, en general, es la primera, la segunda o la tercera.A raíz de la nominación de Ken Liu en la categoría de Primera Novela de los Locus con su “The Grace of Kings” discutimos la necesidad (o lo contrario) de que exista ese premio.Tambien se plantea si es correcto que en categorías como “mejor antología” o “mejor colección de relatos” deberían entrar libros estilo “The best of” o solo libros con relatos originales.Descubrimos que los turcos son aficionados a la ciencia ficción.Resulta que a pesar de cierta controversia, la selección de finalistas a mejor novela del Ignotus, y a varias otras categorías, es bastante interesante y representativa.Los VerdHugos defienden la importancia de que sea “El Ministerio del Tiempo” quien se lleve el Ignotus a mejor producción audiovisual y no sniffnuestro podcastsniff.Recomendaciones literariasMiquel CodonyThe Fifth Season, de NK JemisinLa polilla en la casa del humo, de Guillem LópezAlexander PaezSharp Ends, de Joe AbercrombieLas visiones, de Edmundo Paz SoldánLeticia LaraRelojes de hueso, de David MitchellHouse of Suns, de Alastair ReynoldsJM OriolLovecraft Country, de Matt RuffThe People in the Trees, de Hanya YanagiharaArmando Saldaña(Cómic) The New Frontier, de Darwin CookeDark Orbit, de Carolyn Ives GilmanElías CombarroProyecto Marte, de LJ Salart(1/2 recomendación) Too Like the Lightning, de Ada PalmerPodéis descargar el episodio desde archive.org y, en cuanto se propaguen los feeds, también desde iTunes e iVoox. 

SciFi4Me: The H2O Podcast
108: In Which We Discuss Heroes, Rogues, Hugos, Puppies, and Dragons

SciFi4Me: The H2O Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 8, 2016 74:02


Quite a few things to sift through this week, not the least of which is that new trailer for Rogue One that fell upon the masses. How excited are you for the next installment in the Star Wars franchise? Because that's what it is now, in full force. Plus we discuss the changes in the release date for Wonder Woman, along with the rest of the lineup for the DC Movie Universe. And then there's this thing what Dragon*Con did. What does it mean for the Hugos? How will the Hugo Award process shake out this year with a new group running the Sad Puppies? Is it time for a brand new award? Is it time to burn everything down and start over?

From the Front Porch
Episode 60 || Book Clubs + Guys

From the Front Porch

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 17, 2016 28:32


Ever wondered why guys aren't in book clubs? Listen as Annie and Grassroots Coffee roaster Peyton Hodges chat about co-ed book clubs, plus Peyton schools Annie on her knowledge of sci-fi literature. Peyton mentions:  + Sad Puppies and the 2015 Hugo Awards + Ready Player One by Ernest Cline + Dune by Frank Herbert + Author David Wong + Author Neal Stephenson + Saga + Hark! A Vagrant --- How to rate/review From the Front Porch Full show notes from today's episode and past episodes here.  Website | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter

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The Future And You
The Future And You--Dec 2, 2015

The Future And You

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2015 40:53


The biggest and most impossible to ignore of all the topics we discuss is the faction war raging within SF&F writing and publishing which is centered on the Hugo Awards. You can learn more about it on its Wikipedia page entitled "Sad Puppies." Each of my two guests were nominated for a Hugo award, and each agonized over what exactly they should do about it. Should they accept? should they decline? In this episode, they describe their thoughts and their decisions. Edmund R. Schubert is editor-in-chief of Intergalactic Medicine Show (the popular online magazine of science fiction and fantasy which was created by Orson Scott Card, author of Ender's Game). A fiction author himself, Edmund has written over 35 short stories and one novel: Dreaming Creek. Gray Rinehart writes short stories as well as songs. And he is the only person to have commanded an Air Force satellite tracking station, written speeches for Presidential appointees, been nominated for a major literary award, and had music on "The Dr. Demento Show." Hosted by Stephen Euin Cobb, this is the December 2, 2015 episode of The Future And You. [Running time: 41 minutes] These interviews were recorded at the science fiction and fantasy convention ConCarolinas in Charlotte NC, on May 29, 2015. Stephen Euin Cobb has interviewed over 350 people for his work as an author, futurist, magazine writer, ghostwriter, and award-winning podcaster. A contributing editor for Space and Time Magazine; he has also been a regular contributor for Robot, H+, Grim Couture and Port Iris magazines; and he spent three years as a columnist and contributing editor for Jim Baen's Universe Magazine. For the last nine years he has produced a weekly podcast, The Future And You, which explores (through interviews, panel discussions and commentary) all the ways the future will be different from today. He is an artist, essayist, game designer, transhumanist, and is on the Advisory Board of The Lifeboat Foundation. Stephen is the author of an ebook about the future entitled: Indistinguishable from Magic: Predictions of Revolutionary Future Science.

SweconPoddar
Sweconpoddar 07 – Hugopanel, with Puppygate

SweconPoddar

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 9, 2015 47:26


Panel discussion on the Hugo-nominated novels. Quality? Which one deserves to win and why? The nominations this year have been intensely discussed since two groups calling themselves the Sad Puppies and the Rabid Puppies have succeeded in obtaining many nominations by telling people to nominate from a prepared list. The panel will discuss all the … Fortsätt läsa Sweconpoddar 07 – Hugopanel, with Puppygate →

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Three Guys with Beards
Special Guest Stephen Susco | Three Guys with Beards

Three Guys with Beards

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 29, 2015 76:10


​ In which we discuss Sad Puppies, political correctness on the Internet, Ghosts, Ghost Hunters and movies, plus of course, we interview Stephen Susco.

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Tiny Table 3 - Nerd Culture Podcast
Tiny Table 3 EP19: Nerds Cry, Walking Dead Dies, and Sad Puppies Whine

Tiny Table 3 - Nerd Culture Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 28, 2015 70:32


This week on TT3: Nerd Wrestling is talking about crying moments in nerd movies. Weekly Wrap-up talks Rhonda Rousey being Capt. Marvel and Fear the Walking Dead. The Write Game talks the Hugo Award controversy. Nerd Mixtape talks the Slash and Axl make up. Mediocre Advice gives nerds self-confidence and inner beauty! Join Cloud, Stack, and Milo at the table!

Shaun's Rambles
Shaun’s Rambles 009: On the #HugoAwards and #SadPuppies

Shaun's Rambles

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 23, 2015


The Hugos are over, but the controversy isn’t over.  In this episode, I talk about the results of the 2015 Hugo Awards and how the Sad Puppies have irreparably harmed whatever good message they had.  It’s not an exhaustive discussion, but it’s one I wanted to start while I had time. If you want to learn […]

Shaun's Rambles
Shaun’s Rambles 008: On Lou Antonelli and Sasquan

Shaun's Rambles

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 12, 2015


In this episode, I talk about Lou Antonelli, his efforts to report David Gerrold to the police, and Sasquan’s response. If you want to learn more about what is going on, here are few useful links: Pattern Matching: Lou Antonelli and the Sad Puppies by Natalie Luhrs Some Members are More Equal than Others by […]

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Fangirl Happy Hour
Fangirl Happy Hour, Episode #13: “Pop Culture Shame Points”

Fangirl Happy Hour

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 16, 2015 82:50


This week on Fangirl Happy Hour, Renay and Ana discuss the recent TOR Books PR disaster, answer listener questions, and discuss our experiences of sexism and feminism as teenagers. (TW: discussion of rape and sexual harassment) Discussion References America’s Largest Sci-Fi Publisher Gives in to Reactionary “Sad Puppies” Tor Condemns Creative Director Irene Gallo for […] The post Fangirl Happy Hour, Episode #13: “Pop Culture Shame Points” appeared first on Fangirl Happy Hour.

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AntiCast
AntiCast 178 – A Polêmica do Hugo Awards

AntiCast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 16, 2015 113:07


Olá, antidesigners e brainstormers!Neste programa, Ivan Mizanzuk, Zamiliano, Fábio Fernandes e a convidada Fabiane Lima conversam sobre toda a polêmica gerada em torno das nomeações do Prêmio Hugo de literatura – um dos eventos mais importantes e celebrados pelos fãs e escritores de Ficção Científica e Fantasia no mundo. Saiba como o grupo conservador “Sad Puppies” realizou um lobby nunca antes visto para colocar à frente da premiação os indicados dos quais tinha mais interesse, demonstrando a fragilidade das regras de indicação do Hugo, além de escancarar as vertentes políticas que permeiam suas indicações há anos. O que podemos aprender sobre a política americana neste ponto, especialmente o que diz respeito aos debates entre conservadores e liberais? E será que isso representa algo para o Brasil futuramente? Se você é fã de ficção científica e fantasia, é mais do que recomendável que ouça sobre o que está ocorrendo nos bastidores. >> 0h14min31seg Pauta principalPATREON DO ANTICAST https://www.patreon.com/anticastdesignLINKSCatarse Revista Clichê https://www.catarse.me/pt/revistacliche-n4?ref=home_recommendedConto “Arcano XV”, prólogo de “Até o Fim da Queda”, do Ivan http://www.amazon.com.br/Arcano-XV-Ivan-Mizanzuk-ebook/dp/B00VTSG04C/Oficinas literárias do IvanSão Paulo 10 de Maio https://eventioz.com.br/e/sp-oficina-de-escrita-criativa-tecnicas-e-exerciciWorkshops “Pensar Infográfico”, do Ancara e Fabiano Pensar Infográfico http://pensarinfografico.com.br» São Paulo | 23 de MaioSOBRE O HUGO AWARDSThe Hugo Awards Were Always Political. But Now They're Only Political [io9] http://io9.com/the-hugo-awards-were-always-political-now-theyre-only-1695721604Justin Landon on “The Hugo Awards: an Entity at War with Itself” [Pornokitsch] http://www.pornokitsch.com/2015/04/justin-landon-on-the-hugo-awards-an-entity-at-war-with-itself-.htmlHugos 2015: Delenda Est Hugo [Sibilant Fricative] http://sibilantfricative.blogspot.com.au/2015/04/hugos-2015-delenda-est-hugago.html?m=1What Now? [Blog do George R. R. Martin] http://grrm.livejournal.com/418643.html

AntiCast
AntiCast 178 – A Polêmica do Hugo Awards

AntiCast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 15, 2015 113:07


Olá, antidesigners e brainstormers!Neste programa, Ivan Mizanzuk, Zamiliano, Fábio Fernandes e a convidada Fabiane Lima conversam sobre toda a polêmica gerada em torno das nomeações do Prêmio Hugo de literatura – um dos eventos mais importantes e celebrados pelos fãs e escritores de Ficção Científica e Fantasia no mundo. Saiba como o grupo conservador “Sad Puppies” realizou um lobby nunca antes visto para colocar à frente da premiação os indicados dos quais tinha mais interesse, demonstrando a fragilidade das regras de indicação do Hugo, além de escancarar as vertentes políticas que permeiam suas indicações há anos. O que podemos aprender sobre a política americana neste ponto, especialmente o que diz respeito aos debates entre conservadores e liberais? E será que isso representa algo para o Brasil futuramente? Se você é fã de ficção científica e fantasia, é mais do que recomendável que ouça sobre o que está ocorrendo nos bastidores. >> 0h14min31seg Pauta principalPATREON DO ANTICAST https://www.patreon.com/anticastdesignLINKSCatarse Revista Clichê https://www.catarse.me/pt/revistacliche-n4?ref=home_recommendedConto “Arcano XV”, prólogo de “Até o Fim da Queda”, do Ivan http://www.amazon.com.br/Arcano-XV-Ivan-Mizanzuk-ebook/dp/B00VTSG04C/Oficinas literárias do IvanSão Paulo 10 de Maio https://eventioz.com.br/e/sp-oficina-de-escrita-criativa-tecnicas-e-exerciciWorkshops “Pensar Infográfico”, do Ancara e Fabiano Pensar Infográfico http://pensarinfografico.com.br» São Paulo | 23 de MaioSOBRE O HUGO AWARDSThe Hugo Awards Were Always Political. But Now They're Only Political [io9] http://io9.com/the-hugo-awards-were-always-political-now-theyre-only-1695721604Justin Landon on “The Hugo Awards: an Entity at War with Itself” [Pornokitsch] http://www.pornokitsch.com/2015/04/justin-landon-on-the-hugo-awards-an-entity-at-war-with-itself-.htmlHugos 2015: Delenda Est Hugo [Sibilant Fricative] http://sibilantfricative.blogspot.com.au/2015/04/hugos-2015-delenda-est-hugago.html?m=1What Now? [Blog do George R. R. Martin] http://grrm.livejournal.com/418643.html

Human Echoes Podcast
Mercenaries Review - HEP 135 - "Vaginas, Violence, and Vacation"

Human Echoes Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 10, 2015 69:14


In this episode the guys continue B-movie month by talking about Mercenaries, a female led action film from the Asylum. Albert talks about the trials and tribulations of vacationing with tiny humans, and the guys discuss the upheaval orchestrated at this years Hugos by Sad Puppies. Then Tony reveals he has not yet seen any of the good Fast and Furious movies. (due to technical issues there is no video for the podcast this week.) Download the audio version now! Links: Coral Castle Sad Puppies Furious 7 [Maybe there were more links. I do not know. Technically, I am still on vacation.]

Dead Robots' Society
DRS Episode 353 - Selling Out and Not

Dead Robots' Society

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 9, 2015 88:47


Justin, Terry, Paul, and Scott discuss prioritizing your works between the commercial and the niche. Also, we talk about the Hugo Awards and Sad Puppies, Justin's inability to sing, the sweetness of the mute button, and Harper Collins threatening to leave Amazon. It's a monster of an episode. Enjoy. ps: due to a failed attempt to mute my mic, there is some crackling of paper. My apologies.

Dead Robots' Society
DRS Episode 353 - Selling Out and Not

Dead Robots' Society

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 8, 2015


Justin, Terry, Paul, and Scott discuss prioritizing your works between the commercial and the niche. Also, we talk about the Hugo Awards and Sad Puppies, Justin's inability to sing, the sweetness of the mute button, and Harper Collins threatening to leave Amazon. It's a monster of an episode. Enjoy. ps: due to a failed attempt to mute my mic, there is some crackling of paper. My apologies.

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The Bookworm Podcast
Season 3 Episode 3: Jedi, Zombie, James Lovegrove and Sad Puppies

The Bookworm Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 30, 2015 55:01


Ed gets all excited by Heir To The Jedi by Kevin Hearne, Ninfa gets lost with Alice in Zombieland. We interview James Lovegrove and we also talk about The Hugo Awards and Sad Puppies. All recordings are issued under official license from Fab Radio International. The Bookworm is a Truly Outrageous Production.