Podcasts about Catoctin

Almost two months into his new job as Catoctin High School's varsity football coach, former Cougar Brady Ridenour is this week's guest on The Final Score podcast. Ridenour tells host Greg Swatek how he got the job at his alma mater. Why did he want the job? What was the interview process like? Did he think he would get the job? He talks about being a lifelong member of the Thurmont community and what makes that place so special, as well as playing for former Catoctin football coach Doug Williams and the impact he had on his life. Ridenour discusses winning a state title as a player at Catoctin in 2009 and his fondest memories of that experience. And he shares his feelings about the program he would like to build for the school and the style of play he would like to implement. Plus, he discusses what life is like being a new father. Prior to that conversation, FNP sports writer Alexander Dacy joins Greg to discuss his weekend in Boston at the world figure skating championships and all of the star power on the Frederick County softball scene.

After recently stepping down as Catoctin High's baseball coach, stunning many around the Frederick County sports community, Mike Franklin is this week's guest on The Final Score podcast. Franklin reflects on his 28 years as a baseball coach at Catoctin, including 25 spent as a head coach, with host Greg Swatek. He talks about why he made his decision, the difficulty that was involved in making it and what reaction he has gotten from others across the county since making it. He also talks about why he loved coaching at Catoctin so much and stayed with the school for so long, even when he had opportunities to go elsewhere. Franklin discusses the impact his family had on his decision and some of his initial plans for the next phase of his life. Can he see himself getting back into coaching one day? Prior to that conversation, FNP sports writer Alexander Dacy joins Greg to review the Frederick County Public Schools swimming and diving championships from last weekend and the Monocacy Valley Hockey League championship game between Middletown Valley and Oakdale.

Clarke County comes out of the bye week and faces off against Catoctin out of Maryland. Hear from Eagles Head Coach Casey Childs about the bye week and getting set for Catoctin. Stay tuned for more High School Sports coverage to come on The Kirby on Sports Podcast. A huge thanks to our sponsors! PM+ Reserves Shenandoah Primitives Transformative Alignment Group Mark Francis with ICON Real Estate Barrett Pest and Termite Services Mark Lynch with Guild Mortgage Shenandoah Music www.kirbyonsports.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thekirbyonsportspodcast/support

As he settles into his new job and begins preparations for his first season as Catoctin's boys basketball coach later this year, Mike Wagner is this week's guest on The Final Score podcast. Wagner chats with host Greg Swatek and FNP sports writer Alexander Dacy about his interesting life and career, which has taken him to coaching stops in China, Cambodia, Ethiopia, West Hollywood, California and now Thurmont, Maryland and Catoctin. He talks about how and why he became interested in the Catoctin job and explains why he is so optimistic about the future of the program. Wagner also shares some of his interesting life stories, such as eloping with his wife, Ann, the head of The Banner School in Frederick, in Prague and selling their home, cars and most of their possessions in California to pick up and move to China in pursuit of careers in education. Prior to that conversation, Greg and Alexander discuss the summer sports scene in Frederick County, including the Frederick Tennis Series at Baker Park, as well as the major league debut of James Wood, a top prospect for the Washington Nationals.

How does a team with high expectations respond to losing the best pitcher in the state to a serious injury right before the season starts? Find out this week on The Final Score podcast when ace pitcher Taylor Smith and coach Jess Valentine join host Greg Swatek to talk about how the team has held up so well in the face of a lot of adversity. Smith, a University of Virginia bound pitching recruit, talks about how she tore the ACL in her right knee near the end of basketball season and the immediate thoughts that went through her mind, knowing that her softball season could be in jeopardy. She talks about the rehab process, the support she has received from her family, friends and teammates and what she has learned by just watching and not being able to move as freely as normal. Meanwhile, Valentine addresses what went through her mind as she watched Smith go down, as well as why the team has been able to hold it together so well in Smith absence on the field. Catoctin improved to 13-3 overall this week and is hitting the ball as well as any team in the county. What is Valentine the most proud of about her team? Prior to that conversation, FNP sports writer Alexander Dacy joins Greg to talk about spring sports happenings around Frederick County, including impressive wins for Brunswick baseball, Middletown baseball and Urbana boys lacrosse.

As he heads down the final straightaway of his standout track and field career at Catoctin High School, senior Furious Trammel is this week's guest on The Final Score podcast. Trammel chats with host Greg Swatek about the origins of his unique first name and how people generally react to it. He also talks about the unlikely path that led him to track and field and how he became one of the top athletes in his events (the 400-meter dash, the long jump and the triple jump) in the state of Maryland. How did he react to winning his first state title? What is his most memorable race? What would he like to accomplish before the end of the season? What are his ultimate goals in the sport? Trammel answers all of these questions and more during this week's episode. Prior to that conversation, FNP sports writer Alexander Dacy joins Greg to discuss Avery Neuman's incredible stat line for Tuscarora softball, Urbana's powerhouse boys lacrosse team, Trey Lipscomb getting sent back down to Triple-A by the Washington Nationals and other spring sports happenings around Frederick County.

After reaching the program's first state final since 2015, coach Rob Healy, senior guard Skai Bayless and junior guard Emma Carey are this week's guests on The Final Score podcast. The trio chats with host Greg Swatek about the team's resilience, not just in overcoming the major injuries it has had this season, but also brushing aside adverse moments, like the 10-point halftime deficit against Oxon Hill in the Class 3A state semifinals. The group also talks about the team's defensive identity, why it aims to hold opponents under 40 points in games and the expectations for Saturday evening's 3A championship game against Baltimore Poly at the University of Maryland's Xfinity Center in College Park. Prior to that conversation, FNP sports writers Alexander Dacy and John Cannon join Greg to discuss the state basketball semifinals, which also featured the Frederick High and Middletown boys, as well as the Catoctin girls. The guys talk about Frederick High's huge, 61-49 victory over Henry A. Wise on its home court Wednesday in a 4A boys semifinal and look ahead to the two state finals involving the Cadets against Walt Whitman for the 4A championship at 8 p.m. Saturday and the Oakdale girls against Poly for the 3A championship at 6 p.m. Saturday.

With his team battling to win every match that it can, Catoctin High wrestling coach Rick Reeder is this week's guest on The Final Score podcast. Reeder chats with host Greg Swatek about his small and mighty team. The Cougars can't fill every weight class, which forces them to forfeit four to five matches per dual meet. Yet, in the matches they actually do wrestle, they often win, which keeps them competitive against just about any team. A graduate of Frederick High School, Reeder also talks about how he got his start into wrestling and coaching, as well as the rise of girls wrestling and what it means for the sport. He talks about his time spent as a player and head coach with the semi-pro football team, the Frederick Outlaws, and shares how he became the first head coach for the Baltimore Charm in the now defunct Lingerie Football League. Was that job really as great as some people might think? Prior to that conversation, FNP sports writers Alexander Dacy and John Cannon join Greg, as they always do, to discuss the Frederick County sports scene. This week's topics include a buzzer beater for the Catoctin High boys basketball team and a big win for the Frederick High girls.

Catoctin Mountain Park is one of those National Park Service units that doesn't fit into any category, but its importance in American history could not be any greater. It's home to the famed presidential retreat — Camp David — but lesser known is its place in World War 2 as the secret training camp for the OSS, the predecessor to the CIA.  Hosted by Jason Epperson Sponsored by L.L.Bean

With the start of the first varsity girls flag football season in Frederick County two weeks away, Catoctin High coach Lizzie Dougherty is this week's guest on The Final Score podcast. Dougherty chats with host Greg Swatek about the excitement for the upcoming season and the challenge of fielding a team with only 13 players. She talks about how and why she took the coaching job and being at the Baltimore Ravens' facility on Monday for the official uniform unveiling. She also addresses the health issues that she and her brother, Charles, a football player at Catoctin, deal with and have overcome to a large extent, as well as the impact that playing sports at Catoctin has had on her life. Prior to that, FNP sports writer Alexander Dacy joins Greg to discuss the uniform unveiling with the Ravens, which included head coach John Harbaugh and prominent players like quarterback Lamar Jackson and receiver Odell Beckham Jr., and the upcoming flag-football season in the county.

A week away from the first practice of the upcoming season, Catoctin High football coach Mike Rich is this week's guest on The Final Score podcast. Rich chats with host Greg Swatek about why he is so excited about the coming season and why he is so perpetually positive and energetic. He talks about what he has learned about being a head coach heading into his fourth season on the job and the various challenges that come along with it. The guys run through the Cougars' projected lineup and schedule and discuss what reasonable expectations are for this team. They also discuss the new turf field being installed at the school and how that might impact things.

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Fresh off of the Thomas Johnson boys track and field team winning its first state team title in more than a decade, coach Bobby Humphries and team captain and top distance runner James Partlow are this week's guests on The Final Score podcast. Humphries and Partlow chat with host Greg Swatek about how the Patriots were able to claim the Class 3A boys teams championship without winning a single event. They scored 56 points and held off nemesis Frederick High (51.75) to win their first state title since their three-peat in 2009-11. Partlow talks about how the Patriots overcame a poor first day of the meet to achieve a season-long long, and Humphries addresses his transition from coaching football to coaching track and how he has become better at the job in the process. Prior to that conversation, FNP sports writers John Cannon and Alexander Dacy join Greg to talk about the end of the spring sports season in Frederick County, which featured Urbana softball winning a state title, the Catoctin boys and Urbana girls track teams defending their titles, championship-game appearances for Middletown girls lacrosse, Catoctin softball and Urbana baseball and the first tennis state championship in the history of Brunswick High School.

As they prepare to face Manchester Valley in the Class 2A state championship game, senior midfielder Ellery Bowman and coach Tyler White are this week's guests on The Final Score podcast. Bowman and White chat with host Greg Swatek about the significance of the Middletown girls playing in their second lacrosse state final in three seasons and what it would mean to become the first girls lacrosse team from Frederick County to win a state title. Bowman, the leading scorer in Frederick County by a wide margin, talks about how she got started in playing the sport and her future playing it at the U.S. Naval Academy and beyond. White, meanwhile, talks about how is able to maintain such a positive outlook most of the time, why it is so important to his coaching philosophy, the importance of remembering that playing lacrosse should be about having fun above all else, and how he might celebrate a state-championship win for the Knights. Prior to that discussion, FNP sports writer Alexander Dacy joins Greg to discuss the four state championship games this week involving Urbana softball and baseball, Catoctin softball and Middletown girls lacrosse. What are each teams chances of bringing home the title?

Our guest is Becky Harris, Co-Founder and Chief Distiller of Virginia's Catoctin Creek Distilling Co.  We discuss their unique rye whiskey portfolio, including their Roundstone Rye Whiskey lineup.  Stream this episode on your favorite podcast app and be sure to drop us a review while you're there.  We are thankful for everyone who has supported us. A huge shoutout goes to our growing Patreon Community as well! We'd appreciate it if you can take the time to give us feedback on our podcast. If you enjoy our content, consider giving us a 5 star rating on your favorite podcast app, leave us a review, and tell a fellow bourbon lover about our show. Follow us @BourbonLens on Instagram, Facebook, & Twitter.  And please check out our Patreon to learn how you can support our endeavors, earn Bourbon Lens swag, be part of future barrel picks, and more. If you have any comments, questions, or suggestions, please email us at Info@BourbonLens.com. Check out our BourbonLens.com to read our blog posts, whiskey news, podcast archive, and details on our upcoming single barrel picks. Cheers, Scott and Jake Bourbon Lens   About Catoctin Creek®: Catoctin Creek® was founded by Becky and Scott Harris in 2009 as the first legal distillery in Loudoun County since before Prohibition. We are located in Purcellville, Virginia, in the heart of the Loudoun Valley. Virginia is the birthplace of American whiskey, and at Catoctin Creek, we faithfully dedicate ourselves to that tradition, producing Virginia's most awarded whisky: Roundstone Rye! The name "Catoctin" is a regional name. Pronounced Ka-TOCK-tin, the name derives from the Indian tribal name "Kittocton" which, legend has it, meant "place of many deer". Catoctin describes a range of mountains and the eponymous creek which flows picturesquely past the distillery and into the Potomac River and Chesapeake Watershed. At Catoctin Creek, we believe in high quality food and spirits. We source our grain and fruit from local sources, free of pesticides and chemical additives that would come through in the spirits we produce. The results are the finest, cleanest spirits possible, with the greatest attention to detail in every single bottle we produce. Catoctin Creek has received numerous international gold medals and has been featured in many national publications, including the New York Times, Washington Post, Wine Enthusiast, and Whisky Advocate. The Daily Beast, Forbes, and Men's Journal have highlighted the distillery as an example of great American craft distilleries making whisky from scratch. ABOUT BECKY HARRIS, CHIEF DISTILLER Becky graduated with honors from the University of Wisconsin, Madison. As a chemical engineer, she specialized in industrial processes and production systems. Becky brought this knowledge and applied it to something she loved–making the finest distilled spirits in Virginia. All her products begin with the finest local and organic grains and fruit to create the cleanest spirit possible. At the heart of the distillery is a pair of pot stills, where Becky insists on cooking the distillate for a full nine hours, more than twice as long as most other distilleries, to create the unique and award-winning flavors in her distillate. Becky has been featured in Food and Wine as one of “6 Women in Whiskey to Watch,” and serves as President of the American Craft Spirits Association, the trade association for craft distilleries. ABOUT SCOTT HARRIS, GENERAL MANAGER Scott graduated with honors and two degrees from Georgia Tech. He spent the last twenty years building a software career in telecommunication systems and government IT solutions and traded it all in for the chance to own and run his own distillery. As he likes to say, "Twenty years of government contracting taught me a great love of whisky!" In 2011, Scott was named Entrepreneur of the Year by the Loudoun Chamber of Commerce, and in both 2012 and 2020, Catoctin Creek Distillery was awarded Small Business of the Year. Scott currently sits on the Craft Distiller Advisory Board for DISCUS, and is an emeritus member of the board of directors for the Virginia Distillers Association. He was also appointed to the Virginia Spirits Board by the governor of Virginia, overseeing the marketing of Virginia spirits. Scott has been a tireless advocate for craft spirits both in the Commonwealth of Virginia, nationally and internationally. Scott and Becky are happy to be doing something together that they love: Producing the finest spirits in Virginia, completely and truly by hand. At Catoctin Creek, Virginia Rye Whisky is our passion.  

As their team prepares to begin the softball playoffs as the top team in the region, Catoctin star softball pitcher Taylor Smith and catcher Meghan Gray are this week's guests on The Final Score podcast. Smith and Gray chat with host Greg Swatek about what makes them such an effective combination. They discuss their backgrounds in the sport, what makes Catoctin such a strong softball program year after year and what winning a state title would mean to them. How much guts are required to catch a power pitcher like Taylor? What makes Meghan such an effective hitter? Those questions and more are answered. Prior to that conversation, FNP sports writers Alexander Dacy and John Cannon join Greg to discuss the recently played Central Maryland Conference championship games for baseball and softball and the regional playoffs in a variety of spring sports.

This week we're headed to the Catoctin Wildlife Preserve in Thurmont, Maryland - and joining Jason is the Senior Referee of the World Domination Wrestling Alliance: DANIKA MYERS! An area trailblazer, Danika talks about what it's like being a female referee, the importance of representation of women in wrestling, and the societally ingrained misogyny that still permeates our industry. We also cover her experience being a woman with both ADHD and autism, the difference between awareness & acceptance of neurodivergence, and how she's setting an example for her son as both a parent and a referee. Get ready to meet an incredibly interesting collection of animals - including one of the rarest leopards in the world, a psychotic goose, a horny peacock, a big sexy iguana, and so much more.  You'll also learn some important animal safety tips - like why the smell of cucumbers can sometimes mean danger is lurking just around the corner. And in the Existential Question of the Week, we're at WDWA's Holy Grail Tournament asking wrestlers RANCHHAND CARLSON & ZAKAR SHAH to answer one of pop music's great mysteries - "What's Love Got to Do With It?" Is Catoctin Wildlife Preserve something you have to do before you die? Listen and find out! COLLECTED POSSIBILITIES E-Mail: collectedpossibilities@gmail.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/collectedpossibilities/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/collectedpossibilities Episode Recommendations: MARYLAND IRON FESTIVAL w/ MEGAN REICHELT MONTEREY BAY AQUARIUM w/ BRITTANY TRUSKE MUSEUM OF ILLUSIONS w/ MIKE FRESH DANIKA MYERS Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/danika.m.ross Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danithezebra/ CATOCTIN WILDLIFE PRESERVE Website: https://catoctinwildlifepreserve.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/cwpzoo Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/catoctinwildlifepreserve/ "RANCH HAND" SHAWN CARLSON Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mark.carlson.965580 Twitter: https://twitter.com/ranchandcarlson Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/carlson_9245/ ZAKAR SHAH Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zakarshahexile/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/ZakarShahPro YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKI2lkeOe_SN1UKsb-91X6w?app=desktop WORLD DOMINATION WRESTLING ALLIANCE https://www.facebook.com/wdwawrestling BETTER TOGETHER MEDIA GROUP Website: https://www.bettertogethermediagroup.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bettertogethermediagroup/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bettertogethermediagroup EPISODE CREDITS Host: Jason Heat Editor: Mike Valentyne Theme: Zia Hassan Logo: Kitokoart Graphic: Ernie Osiris

Off to a strong start this season, Catoctin pitching ace Joey McMannis and the Cougars' longtime coach Mike Franklin are this week's guests on The Final Score podcast. McMannis, who committed to play at the University of Maryland as a freshman, is receiving lots of attention from Major League Baseball scouts. He and Franklin chat with host Greg Swatek about dealing with that process and handling the pressure and scrutiny that comes along with it. McMannis talks about how he developed and maintains his powerful right arm, which can deliver mid-90's fastballs on the radar gun. He also talks extensively about his friendship with Catoctin track phenom Brody Buffington and how they have helped each other manage both the recruiting process and the small-town celebrity status that each now enjoys. Meanwhile, Franklin discusses what makes McMannis such a dominant pitcher and why is team is off to such a strong start. Plus, we've got power rankings, as FNP sports writer Alexander Dacy joins Greg to discuss the Frederick County teams that have looked the strongest so far in each of the spring sports.

This episode features ⁠Becky Harris⁠ of ⁠Catoctin Creek Distilling Company ⁠. Becky and Scott founded Catoctin Creek in 2009. At the time there were about 200 distilleries in the United Sates and 6 in Virginia. They began with a vision of making rye whiskey which was "the whiskey" up until prohibition in the Mid-Atlantic States. At Cotoctin they use batch pot still distillation. This is the key to deriving the most flavor from the rye grain. In the beginning it was difficult to get farmers to take a chance on this little craft distillery. Today those farmers are glad that they did. Catoctin produces some of the finest rye whiskey's. Combine that with the delicious cocktails in the tasting room and you have a recipe for continued growth and success. We enjoyed our fascinating conversation about history, the spirits industry and Catoctin Creek Distilling.   120 W Main St, Purcellville, VA 20132 - ⁠(540) 751-8404 - www.CatoctinCreekDistilling.com - ⁠Facebook⁠ Highlights from our discussion: Every Home a Distillery American Craft Spirit Association Mt. Defiance Distillery Jack Rose Dining Saloon MGP Sagamore Spirit New Riff Distilling Eight Oaks Farm Distillery Gwar Leopold Brothers Diageo Brands George Dickel Bulleit Bourbon Du Nord Social Spirits Distilled Spirits Council Purcellville, VA

Sales and Marketing Director James Little of Catoctin Hemp details the goals of this family-owned and family-operated facility in the mountains of Maryland.  Catoctin Hemp values quality CBD products at the most affordable cost. Learn more at Catoctinhemp.com   Dr Thomas Rocco is a Medical Director of a medical marijuana evaluation center licensed by the Rhode Island Department of Health and physician at BAK 2 Basics CBD Medical Consultants.  Krystle MacDonald is part of the medical staff at BAK 2 Basics CBD Medical Consultants and has worked in the medical field with chronic pain patients for over six years.  She also worked at a licensed Medical Marijuana Evaluation Center in RI as an educator and consultant.  Krystle has experienced first hand the benefits of CBD, and is passionate about educating and helping others experience a natural alternative for relief.  She has created petition proposals to the State of Rhode Island to improve the RI Medical Marijuana Program. Contacts for BAK 2 Basics CBD Medical Consultants are Dr Thomas Rocco and Krystle MacDonald email- customerservice@bak2basicsllc.com phone- (401) 678-6420 website- https://www.bak2basicsllc.com/ website CBD Health- https://bak2basicsllc.com/about-us/education/blog/ SHOP QUALITY TESTED CBD PRODUCTS- https://www.bak2basicsllc.com/products/ Contact us for any medical CBD questions by email, text or phone call. Proper medical CBD therapy is our passion.  Get CBD from an MD #getCBDfromanMD #CBDphysician #CBDdoc #CBDHealthPodcast #Bak2BasicsCBD #CBD Please subscribe to our podcast. Thank you.

After his sensational state record in the 55-meter dash and a wild last month that earned him some national recognition, Catoctin High sprinting star Brody Buffington and his coach, Dave Lillard, are this week's guests on the Final Score podcast. Buffington chats with host Greg Swatek about how much his life has changed over the last month, starting with the 6.25-second 55 dash he ran in mid-January that vaulted him to the best time in the nation, at the time, to the 6.19-second 55 dash he ran Tuesday at the state indoor meet to set the Maryland Public School record for all classifications. What has it been like handling all of the attention? He also talks at length about the controversial disqualification he suffered in the 300 dash at the 1A regional meet that knocked him out of a race he was the defending champion in and states and prompted nationwide calls of support on social media, including from numerous Olympians. How do Buffington's teammates handle all of his success? Lillard talks about that and about all of the noteworthy athletes and performances that can get lost in the very large shadow cast by Buffington's dynamic performances. And what's on tap for Buffington as he prepares to run at the New Balance Indoor National meet in Boston in two weeks and during the outdoor track season in the spring? Prior to that conversation, FNP sports writers Alexander Dacy and John Cannon join Greg to talk about the Central Maryland Conference championship games for both boys and girls basketball, as well as state and regional playoff happenings for swimming and wrestling.

Following a dramatic and tense come-from-behind win at Linganore this week, Urbana boys basketball coach Dave Crawmer and sophomore forward RJ Roche are this week's guests on The Final Score podcast. Crawmer and Roche chat with host Greg Swatek about the Hawks' season. They are 13-5 with three challenging games remaining in the regular season. They also discuss the qualities of the team that allowed it to rally from an early 13-point deficit to beat Linganore on the road by three, surviving a potential game-tying 3-pointer by the Lancers at the buzzer. Roche talks about how his game has evolved over the course of the season. And Crawmer discusses his day job as the head golfing pro at Lakewood Country Club in Rockville. What his lowest score ever? What is the most famous course he has ever played? The answers may surprise you. Prior to that, FNP sports writers John Cannon and Alexander Dacy join Greg to talk about the the controversial disqualification of Catoctin sprinting star Brody Buffington in the 300 dash over the weekend in the Class 1A West regional indoor track meet in Hagerstown. They also discuss the prominent storylines on the boys and girls basketball scenes in Frederick County, and share the story of Zion Ortiz, a star athlete at Maryland School for the Deaf.

Less than a week after being named the varsity football coach at his alma mater, Frederick High football coach Pat Cadden is this week's guest on The Final Score podcast. Cadden chats with host Greg Swatek about how the opportunity came about for him. He served for the last six seasons as Frederick's defensive coordinator under former coach Kevin Pirri and has helped resurrect the program from one of its lowest points ever into one of the top ones in the state. Cadden also talks candidly about his 20 years of military service in the U.S. Army, which is approaching its end, and how that shaped his life and his coaching career. Prior to that, FNP sports writers Alexander Dacy and John Cannon join Greg to discuss the new high school football coaching hires at both Frederick and Tuscarora, as well as some notable results and upcoming matchups on the Frederick County basketball scene. The guys also touch on Catoctin's Brody Buffington posting the fastest time in the nation in the 55-meter dash last week, as well as Linganore wrestling's big win over Middletown.

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The Final Score podcast continues it look at the upcoming high school football season in Frederick County with Catoctin High School football coach Mike Rich. Coach Rich chats with Greg Swatek about the huge challenges he has faced in his three years on the job, including replacing a legend in Doug Williams and dealing with the coronavirus pandemic. They also talk about the team the Cougars have this season with nine starters returning on each side of the ball and the expectations for the program this season. Plus, FNP sports writer Alexander Dacy stops in to discuss the upcoming season with Greg, including the FNP's preseason top 5 for high school football.

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Lions and Tigers and Bears OH MY!!! Well not exactly but this week's guest on the Steeples and Peoples podcast does offer a variety of animals and experiences for all to enjoy. Laurie Hahn, multi-dimensional general curator, joins us to talk about the Catoctin Wildlife Preserve. We discuss the in and out of season care of all the animals, how you can get involved and support this family fun location and what you need to do to have an event that will leave lasting memories. Don't delay and head to the Catoctin Wildlife Preserve today!!!  Website: https://catoctinwildlifepreserve.com/  Address: 13019 Catoctin Furnace Road Thurmont,Maryland 21788 (301) 271-4922 Hours of Operation: March Daily 10am - 4pm:  April open @ 10am and After Labor Day through December 23rd 9 am- 5pm: Summer hours Memorial Day to Labor Day 9am - 6 pm Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/cwpzoo  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/catoctinwildlifepreserve/  Twitter: https://twitter.com/thezooforyou?lang=en and also on Tic Tok  ____________________________________________________________ Follow and Connect with Us ____________________________________________________________   Check out our websites, apps and much more www.steeplesandpeoples.com Like our Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/Steeples&Peoples Join the conversation on Twitter https://twitter.com/SteeplesPeoples Follow us on Instagram pics https://www.instagram.com/steeplesandpeoples                        Reach out to us on Snapchat at: steeplespeoples Watch our Tik Tok at: steeplesandpeoples ===========================  Feel free to let us know if you have any comments or questions By emailing us at: SteeplesandPeoples@gmail.com Steve Medley: voice intro and outro Don't forget to like, subscribe, and join us weekly to find out what's going on with "All Things Frederick County, Maryland" on the Steeples and Peoples podcast!!!

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On the heels of Catoctin High School winnings its first state team championship for outdoor track and field, Dave Lillard, the boys coach for the Cougars, and Brody Buffington, the team's star sprinter and jumper, are the guests this week on The Final Score podcast. Lillard and Buffington chat with host Greg Swatek about how Catoctin was able to break through and win the Class 1A team championship for the boys. Buffington, who accounted for 30 of the team's 73 points, talks about his jaw dropping times in the 100 - and 200-meter dashes and what it feels like to be able to run that fast. He also talks about giving up playing lacrosse in high school to focus strictly on his blossoming track-and-field career. How is his summer shaping up in terms of training and competing in the outdoor national meet? How shocked is he by the times that he runs? And how much faster might he get next season with more experience and better health? Those topics are addressed as well.

In this episode of the Distillery Nation Podcast, I had the absolute pleasure of talking with Becky and Scott Harris. Becky and Scott are owners and distillers behind Catoctin Creek, a craft Rye whiskey distillery located in Purcellville Virginia, and what an episode. Full of practical advice, from their humble beginning to why they decided to focus on Rye whiskey, work ethic, distribution, scaling, working together and so much more!

Every once and a while, I fire up a retro game that I missed back in its heyday, and it rocks my world so hard that I spend the next week kicking myself for not playing it sooner. Shadow of the Colossus is one of those games.    Its controls leave a little to be desired, but everything else about it is just, beautiful. The story, bosses, music, graphics are all spectacular, and there's no fat to be found. 'Less is more' should be this game's motto. It's a legitimate work of art.    This week's episode was sponsored by RTG community member JohnnyCCDC over on Patreon, and I can't thank him enough for the support, and for showing me the error of my non-Colossi battling ways. We have a nice chat about why this game scratches him where he itches, and then my buddy Miklos manipulated his way back onto the podcast (and by that, I mean I called him), and we broke it down for another hour or so. All kind of Colossus goodness over here this week!   And before we talk about Colossus shadows, I drop another steaming edition of the 'Remember The Game? Infamous Intro' on ya!   This week, we talk about our hopes for Sony's rumoured 'PlayStation Spartacus' service. We talk about the  legendary Bebop and Rocksteady, and which iteration of them is best. And how much longer will physical video games be a thing?   PLUS, we have another round of 'Play One, Remake One, Erase One', featuring three of the PS2's best: GTA: San Andreas, Metal Gear Solid 3, and Silent Hill 2.    Are you on social media? Of course you are. So follow us!    Twitter: @MemberTheGame Instagram: @MemberTheGame Twitch.tv/MemberTheGame   And if you want access to over 200 bonus podcasts, along with multiple new shows EVERY WEEK, consider showing us some love over at Patreon. Subscriptions start at just $2/month!   Patreon.com/RememberTheGame   And check out JohnnyCCDC's deets here:   Instagram: @JohnnyCCDC Twitter: NextRoundsOnMe Instagram & Twitter @CatoctinCreek CatoctinCreekDistilling.com BuyVirginiaRye.com Catoctin Creek Distilling Company 120 W Main St, Purcellville VA 20132 540-751-8404 The Virginia Rye™️ “Catoctin Creek® was founded by Becky and Scott Harris in 2009 as the first legal distillery in Loudoun County since before Prohibition. We are located in Purcellville, Virginia, in the heart of the Loudoun Valley. Virginia is the birthplace of American whiskey, and at Catoctin Creek, we faithfully dedicate ourselves to that tradition, producing Virginia's most awarded whisky—Roundstone Rye!   The name "Catoctin" is a regional name. Pronounced Ka-TOCK-tin, the name derives from the Indian tribal name "Kittocton" which, legend has it, meant "place of many deer". Catoctin describes a range of mountains and the eponymous creek which flows picturesquely past the distillery and into the Potomac River and Chesapeake Watershed.   At Catoctin Creek, we believe in high quality food and spirits. We source our grain and fruit from local sources, free of pesticides and chemical additives that would come through in the spirits we produce. The results are the finest, cleanest spirits possible, with the greatest attention to detail in every single bottle we produce.”

Amy Entwistle has been coaching the girls basketball team at Catoctin for eighteen years. She played for her high school team at Governor Thomas Johnson, and then at Messiah College. In the summer of 2004, she was employed as a P.E. teacher at Thurmont Middle and started coaching girls basketball at Catoctin. She later got a full-time job at Catoctin. Her coach in college used to tell her that "the journey is the goal," and Entwistle certainly carries that idea through her own career as a coach. She believes that the most important thing about playing basketball is learning life lessons that athletes will carry with them forever. She says that "basketball teaches you the importance of consistently doing the little things well, because it is the little things that lead to big things like wins." Entwistle loves that players are forced to make split-second decisions and compete every possession. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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State Champion Catoctin Baseball coach Mike Franklin and players.  For the first time since 2013, the Catoctin high school baseball team has won a state championship. MPSSAA Class 1A No. 6 seed Catoctin defeated No. 4 St. Michaels 10-3 in the state championship game, to bring the state championship trophy back to Thurmont.   Franklin, in his 22nd season as the team's head coach, previously led the Cougars to a state championship victory in 2013. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

WFMD & WFRE are promotional sponsors of the 23rd Annual Catoctin Affair Event, hosted by the Mental Health Association of Frederick County. We are thrilled to be sponsors of this event, and in an effort to encourage listeners to buy tickets to attend the event. Event Website Link: https://fcmha.org/donate/catoctin-affair Facebook Event Page: https://www.facebook.com/TheCatoctinAffair/   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On the next day, Mike and Dusty hike the wilder trails on the West Side of Catoctin Mountain in Maryland. Website: GazeAtTheNationalParks.com Instagram: @GazeAtTheNationalParks ( https://www.instagram.com/gazeatthenationalparks/?hl=en ) Facebook: Gaze at the National Parks ( https://www.facebook.com/GazeAtTheNationalParks/ ) Twitter: @GazeAtTheParks ( https://twitter.com/gazeattheparks ) #gazeatthenationalparks #hikeearlyhikeoften #adventureisoutthere Hosted by Dustin Ballard and Michael Ryan Episode Editing by Dustin Ballard Original Artwork by Michael Ryan Original Music by Dave Seamon Music Producer: Skyler Fortgang Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/gaze-at-the-national-parks/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

The crew talks Virginia Rye whiskey and meatballs with Regional Sales Manager Avalon Oona Haas (aka: Unicorn Whiskey Fairy) of Catoctin Creek Distilling Co. Listen to us laugh, drink, and have a little too much fun. 

While visiting Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, Mike and Dusty hike the East Side Trails of Catoctin Mountain Park in Maryland. Website: GazeAtTheNationalParks.com Instagram: @GazeAtTheNationalParks ( https://www.instagram.com/gazeatthenationalparks/?hl=en ) Facebook: Gaze at the National Parks ( https://www.facebook.com/GazeAtTheNationalParks/ ) Twitter: @GazeAtTheParks ( https://twitter.com/gazeattheparks ) #gazeatthenationalparks #hikeearlyhikeoften #adventureisoutthere Hosted by Dustin Ballard and Michael Ryan Episode Editing by Dustin Ballard Original Artwork by Michael Ryan Original Music by Dave Seamon Music Producer: Skyler Fortgang Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/gaze-at-the-national-parks/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

WFMD's sports play-by-play voice Steve Nibbs joined the Morning News Express to discuss Thursday's game between Catoctin and Tuscarora. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Catoctin football player Colan Droneburg, suffered a serious head injury. He was taken to Shock Trauma in Baltimore where he remains in ICU.  Teammate Ryan Orr talks to Dianah Gibson about Colan and the game.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Graduating Seniors moving on to College Softball. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Look no further.  Listen to this week’s pod, Episode 44: Catoctin Creek featuring Scott Harris, for a whole-ass science class, a lesson in how to get an unadvised loan, the pressures of whiskey drinking as a woman, and the touching story of perfecting the family business of creating craft spirits.    

Paddling along the river in our canoe, we come across a 'yard' full of 220 abandoned historical steamships in Mallows Bay, Maryland on this week's adventure. Then walk through a village that built produced iron during the Industrial Revolution time period. Lastly, visit the original Awakening statue on a beach.

Doug Williams and two seniors who are moving on to the college level

We have Avalon & John two sales reps for Catoctin Creek Distillery in Purceville, Virginia. They discuss topics about how they are getting by, their favorite products by Catoctin. This episode has unicorns and Virginia love all over it! Meet two awesome people who come from a bar tending background! Learn and listen how they got involved into a really great distillery family.

As the Catoctin girls basketball team enjoys one of its finest seasons, the team's coach Amy Entwistle, is the guest this week on the Final Score podcast. Entwistle tells host Greg Swatek why her small (10 players) but talented team has taken off this season. She talks about her players and how their togetherness and willingness to embrace things such as playing defense has translated into a lot of success this season. The coach also talks about how she came into a job she has now held for 16 seasons as a 22-year-old, fresh-out-of-college kid. And she explains how her positive mindset continues to shape her life and influence her coaching to this day. Plus, FNP sports writer Joe Ferraro stops in to discuss the county basketball scene.

Doug Williams and Paul DuMars, two coaches who were together every step of the way during a 29-year tenure as football coaches at Catoctin, are the guests on the Final Score podcast this week in light of Williams' announcement last weekend that he was retiring as the Cougars' varsity head coach. Williams and DuMar share details with host Greg Swatek about the first time they met, an encounter that took place in an off-beat location and ended with DuMars landing an assistants' job with Williams a few weeks prior to the start of the 1991 season. They talk about why they worked so well together for nearly three decades, what they will miss the most now that they are stepping away from the Catoctin football program and what the next chapter of their lives might look like. Lots of great stories and memories, even a few laughs, are shared.

As the season reaches the halfway point, boys basketball coaches Kyle McFadden of the Frederick Force and Brian Burdette of Catoctin High School are the guests this week on The Final Score podcast. First, McFadden shares with host Greg Swatek what his first season has been like as a head basketball coach. What has surprised him? What has he learned? How did it feel to earn his first victory? What type of team do the Force have this season? Then, Burdette joins the show to chat with Greg about his team's recent upset of Middletown, which marked Catoctin's first win over the Knights in at least 18 years. Who are the key players for the Cougars this season? How far can they advance in the playoffs? How has Burdette's experience as a referee influenced his coaching career?

Head Coach Amy Entwistle Assistant Coach John Woelfel Assistant Coach Rick Wastler

On this week's special edition of the Final Score podcast, the Catoctin football team discusses its state championship victory. Coach Doug Williams, senior receiver Eli Frei and senior running back and defensive lineman Jake Baker join host Greg Swatek to talk about the Cougars' 31-8 victory over Dunbar in the Class 1A championship game on Dec. 7 in Annapolis. Coach Williams and the players talk about what the victory meant to them and what made the team so special. Coach Williams talked about the ways the team improved over the course of the season. Frei talked about why the offense was so explosive after it average more than 40 points per game over the course of the season, and Baker explained why the defense improved so much over the course of the season and why in was able to make so many impactful plays in the playoff victories over Fort Hill and Dunbar, a pair of perennial state powers in 1A.

With the Catoctin football team set to play in its first state final in roughly a decade, the team's star running back, Carson Sickeri, and his father, Jamie, an assistant coach, are the guests this week on The Final Score Podcast. The Sickeris chat with host Greg Swatek about the Cougars' big shutout win over perennial Class 1A power Fort Hill last week and what makes their offense so dynamic. Catoctin is averaging more than 40 points per game this season. Jamie shares his back story growing up as a high school running back in a small, Western Pennsylvania football town and the family lineage at the position. Carson has reached even greater heights this season with more than 2,000 rushing yards and 40 touchdowns. They also talk about what lies ahead, as Catoctin is set to face another perennial state power in Dunbar in the 1A championship game Saturday afternoon, and what they feel it will be like taking the field at Navy's Marine Corps Memorial Stadium in Annapolis. Up first, though, FNP sports writers John Cannon and Joe Ferraro join Greg to discuss the historical milestone, as Frederick County placed three teams in the state football final in the same year for the first time. They share thoughts and insights about Linganore's game with Damascus in the 3A final, Catoctin's game with Dunbar in the 1A championship game, as well as Middletown's game with Potomac in the 2A final.

With the potential demise of the Frederick Keys generating conversation around the area this week, Adam Pohl, a former Keys broadcaster and currently the Director of Broadcasting for the Bowie Baysox, is the guest this week on The Final Score podcast. Pohl responds to the list that circulated through various media channels over the weekend that named the Keys as one of 42 minor league baseball teams that Major League Baseball was proposing to fold after the 2020 season. He states his beliefs about why MLB wants to chop so many minor league teams, including a financial reason that is not often reported and talked about. He also talks about why he feels the idea is so ill-advised and the likelihood of it ever coming to fruition. Then, FNP sports writer Joe Ferraro stops by to share his thoughts on the matter and discuss this weekend's high school football playoff games, as Catoctin, Middletown and Linganore complete in the state quarterfinals.

With a big showdown against Catoctin looming this week, Walkersville football coach Joe Polce is the guest this week on The Final Score podcast. The Lions are off to a 4-1 start this season with wins over Tuscarora, Liberty, Seneca Valley and Thomas Johnson and a loss to Linganore last week. Coach Polce shares his assessment of the season to date with host Greg Swatek. What is going well? What needs to get better? He also shares his feelings on the resumption of the Catoctin-Walkersville rivalry, which hadn't been played for the last two seasons. What type of game does he expect on Friday? Then, Frederick News-Post sports writer Joe Ferraro drops in to discuss the county football scene just past the midpoint of the season. What teams have made the biggest impressions so far? How deep is the running back position in the county? Is there a clear frontrunner heading into the postseason?

DOUG WILLIAMS IS an easy-going football coach who says he emphasizes relationships over winning. In that case, Catoctin High School is perfect for him. Since the school started playing football, it has had only nine winning seasons. The Cougars did not win a football game in their first three seasons. Except for the late-1970s and early-1980s (they were unbeaten and won 20 straight in 1982 and 1983), the school has struggled. Since coming to Catoctin in 1992, Williams has a 51-69 record with three winning seasons.

With the start of the season less than a week away, The Final Score continues its Frederick County high school football preview with Catoctin head coach Doug Williams. Williams is entering his 42nd year as a high school football coach and 29th as the head coach at Catoctin. He chats with host Greg Swatek about how players have changed since he started coaching and how he's had to modify and adapt his style. The Cougars return seven starters on both sides of the ball from a team that finished 10-2 last season and reached the Class 1A West regional final. Williams shares what he hoped his players took away from the experience and why he is so encouraged about this year's team.

In this episode, we focus on bitters - bitter cocktails, and more importantly, two new bespoke cocktail bitters flavors we developed for our friends over at Catoctin Creek Distilling Co. and Sagamore Spirit Distillery. Some of the things we discuss include: How to make the Trinidad Sour cocktail, which is one of only a few drinks where bitters make up a large portion of the volume What it means to tell a story with flavor and how to use ingredients to build a narrative around a specific product What to do when flavors are too "matchy" or too far off in left field How use cases and cocktail applications impact the characteristics of the end product And much, much more.  

A jam packed episode. The first half is focused on the the largest Facebook group known for buying, selling, and trading bourbon and it’s encounter with Facebook staff about rule changes. We cover the news and share the information as it’s presented. In the second half of the show, we are joined by Marianne Eaves as she discusses her departure from Castle & Key and what’s on the horizon for her next adventure. This episode has a little bit of everything. Oh yeah, and a teaser about marijuana with bourbon which you can look forward to hearing more next week. Show Partners: At Barrell Craft Spirits, every batch they produce has a distinct flavor profile. They take pride in blending and preserving spirits for the people who enjoy them the most, you. Find out more at BarrellBourbon.com. Receive $25 off your first order with code "Pursuit" at RackhouseWhiskeyClub.com. Use code "BOB2019" for discounted tickets to Bourbon on the Banks in Frankfort, KY on August 24th. Visit BourbonontheBanks.org. (Offer good through 6/30.) Show Notes: This week’s Above the Char with Fred Minnick talks about Bottled-In-Bond and Bernie Lubbers. The Next Phase of the Bourbon Secondary Market. Facebook is cracking down. What will be the next iteration of the secondary market? When did you get the news and how did you feel about it? Will this start more segmented smaller groups? Are there any other platforms where the secondary market could exist? How does one have bourbon as a hobby and ensure that he or she is not becoming an alcoholic in the process? Are Sober Bars going to become a thing? What's new with Marianne Eaves? What was the response from other companies to you leaving Castle and Key? Are you interested in other spirits? Have you been trained in other spirits? What's your favorite style of gin? What's next for you? What do you all think about marijuana infused bourbon?   0:00 If by some chance you think that there's some background noise or you think it's being noisy, I'm going to put it on you to hit your mute button. I know last time everybody was talking over top of each other and 0:09 you saying Don't 0:11 talk to me. I don't know what to do. 0:14 The same time. 0:15 Yeah. All right. All at once. 0:20 You're doing now? 0:21 Yeah. Alright, so that didn't work. Well, we'll move on. 0:36 This is Episode 205. of bourbon pursuit. And we only have a little bit of news to go through today because it's the bourbon Community Roundtable, which is all about the news. Of course, the birthday bourbon is out of the gate. It's typically one of the first ones we see and hear about during the fall release season. Well, I guess it's that time because the 2019 edition, the specs have come out and it's going to feature and an 11 year old hundred and five proof expression which is the highest proof to date, a total of 120 barrels, which is still on May 15, 2008, and aged on the second floor of warehouse I master distiller Chris Morris and master taster Jackie's I can who have both been featured on the show previously talking about birthday bourbon selected and proved this year's limited edition, the 2019 old forced to birthday bourbon is going to be offered at an MSRP of 9999. And roughly 13,200 bottles will be available for purchase nationwide. Well, this episode, it's a doozy. The first half of this episode is focused on the largest Facebook site known for buying, selling and trading bourbon. And really, it's kind of a necessary evil because that's how valuations are really how they're created. But this is also a little pretty controversial in the underground sort of bourbon community because people thought there were ulterior motives involved. just want you to know, we try to be respectful and come at this from a very gentle stick approach. We cover the news. And the big news of this week was the letters of the admins that received them from bourbon secondary market, and they got these from Facebook officials. So don't get me wrong. There's still plenty of places on Facebook where you can get your hands on these goods. But this was a very high profile page. So we'll have to wait and see what happens. In the second half of the show. We're joined by Marianne Eaves, as she discusses her departure from castle and key and what's on the horizon for in her next adventure. Like I said, this show has a little bit of everything. Oh yeah. And there's a teaser about marijuana with bourbon at the end, which you can look forward to hearing more about next week. With that, let's hear from our good friend Joe over a barrel bourbon. And then you've got Fred Minnick with the above the char. 2:44 Hi, this is Joe from barrell craft spirits. 2:47 every batch we produce has a distinct flavor profile. We take pride in blending and preserving spirits for the people who enjoy them the most. 2:53 You lift your spirits with barrel bourbon. 2:57 I'm Fred Minnick, and this is above the char. The box came into my office like any other box, the FedEx man dropped it off. I cut it open. I ripped it out and I pulled a bottle out. But the excitement that I felt when I saw the bottle was far different than when I usually get a 90 proof bottle or some new product from one of the big distilleries. This one had etched in the label, bottled in bond. It was Catoctin Creek, a rye whiskey out of Virginia. I said it next to other bottle on the bond whiskeys on my shelf. George decal bite on the bond Tennessee whiskey, dad's hat, bottle and bond Pennsylvania whiskey, tomfoolery bottle and bond Cleveland bourbon. It's made in the Cleveland area. And as I looked at these on my shelf, I couldn't help but feel the pride just overwhelming in my soul. You had bottle and bond from Virginia, Tennessee, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. It was absolutely phenomenal. Especially when you consider that 10 years ago, the bottle and Bond was almost extinct. You really only saw about 15 bottles on the shelf and those were mostly from heaven Hill. But as Bourbons started becoming more popular and as ride became more popular, you had one particular brand ambassador who was going around the world telling people about bottle of Bach. He's covered in tattoos plays bluegrass music wears belt buckles, it can tell you anything you want to know about bourbon history. His name is Bernie Lubbers. He's one of these guys that has the passion of 1000 bourbon reps. And that's because he knows his stuff. But more importantly, he believes it. And it's my opinion, that if it was not for Bernie out there discussing the heritage and importance of bottle and bond whiskey, that we would not be seeing George decal on the shelf or Catoctin creek or dad's hat touting being bottled and bought. If you want to learn about that history, check out his website. He's the whiskey professor. He's got a book, I've written about the history of the bottle and Bond Act of 1897. But really, in today's sense, I give all the credit to bottle and bonds return to one man, and his name is Bernie lovers. So if you happen to like buy all the bond whiskey, find Bernie on Facebook, Twitter or Instagram and tell him Thank you. Because if it wasn't for him, and his big giant tattoo on his arm, I don't know if we'd have bottled in bond right now. And that's this week's above the char. Hey, if you have somebody you would like to highlight and above the char hit me up on Instagram or Twitter at Fred Minnick. That's at Fred Minnick. Until next week. Cheers 5:46 Welcome back to episode of bourbon pursuit the official podcast of bourbon. This is the 33rd meeting and podcast recording of the bourbon Community Roundtable. It's this one, it's odd because we usually spend about a a day or two ahead of time kind of thinking of random topics. I always maybe sit there and look at some tweets Fred put out the week before and and see if like that's a makes good for a conversation or a topic. However, today this one sort of came all together like within the span of an hour and a half. It was the bombshell that kind of got dropped in one of the largest Facebook groups and we're going to talk about that here in a little bit. But Kenny's here, Fred and Ryan, join me here as well. How's it going tonight? fellows going? 6:30 Great. Oh, just Yeah. Do you know says that? It's okay to talk. 6:38 Go ahead. 6:40 No, it's funny. You're in your intro. I was thinking I was like, people may or may not know I delete social media during the week. So I normally have no tables are till about 30 minutes for I logged in today on Twitter. And I was like, Oh shit. I'm really behind. What what are we going to talk about? This is insane. So super excited about today's show. 7:01 It's a it's a riddle. Like, how do you piss off at the thousand bourbon enthusiasts in one one post? 7:07 Yep, exactly. Yeah. I mean, it's 7:11 it's interesting. And the thing is, is is like I think I think what's happening can play into a kind of like a larger kind of national conversation as well. So this is you know, and this is important for all of us right now to talk about 7:27 a good I people always like discussions on the secondary market. We don't like to think it exists. But of course it does. That's That's how that's how names get kind of brand names can get spread around. That's how valuations happen. So it's almost like a necessary evil but before we kind of start talking about that, I want to go around the horn as usual. Let the folks introduce themselves and we're going to go with on my left starting with Blake of bourbon 7:53 and he's on mute direction. 8:00 Me You know, I did too good of a job under no, I'm Blake from bourbon are always fun to be here. It's a you know, let's see the 34th bourbon roundtable in a row and the 34th time you've seen my face because that is the Cal Ripken of bourbon roundtable so thanks for having me. It's a 33rd but who's counting 33rd 8:22 that I'm going to be on next next month as well 8:24 yeah, let's see what that magic eight ball says 8:28 all right Brian sip and corn How you doing? 8:31 All right I'm doing great thanks for having me again night guys. Brian with sip and corn you can find me on social all the social media is sipping porn and online you can find all those things and more at bourbon justice calm and in sipping corn calm brings you to the same place. And looking forward to to tonight's conversation guys. 8:52 Alright, and the one of the highest ranking whiskey blogs out there today. Jordan from breaking bourbon, how are you? Good. Thanks for have us. This is Jordan, one of the three guys from breaking bourbon. com, find us on all the social medias at breaking bourbon along with Patreon and make sure to check out our updated Release Calendar update near daily. Awesome. 9:13 So with that, let's go ahead and kind of kick off the show, you know, we hinted at a little bit it was going to be talking about the secondary market. There's a large Facebook group in there, they don't really try to make it sound like it's hard to find it's actually called bourbon secondary market. So there's, there's no mystery whatsoever. But it's typically one of those places that it's a kind of underground, you have to be invited into it. And it's a buy sell trade form. I know that everybody on the call is a member of it. We've all been there before. So and before we kind of get into the meat of the subject I want to introduce Craig. So Craig, I'm going to hopefully don't screw it up again. rubric. Right? has joined us today. So Craig is one of the admins of bourbon secondary mark or bsm. So Craig, welcome the show. Hey, thanks. So Craig, before we kind of get into it a little bit, kind of talk about like how you came to be an admin inside of DSM. 10:11 Sure. Um, so I think everyone knows, the group's founder Oh, and, and through another group that Owen runs, I came to know him, which is the global bourbon hounds. And when you're running a group that size, you know, you tend to when it gets to a certain point, you tend to reach out to people that you trust to help you run it. And so that's that's basically how that happened. I mean, the group existed for I don't know a good year and a half two years before I came on board with the admin team and so that's basically what it was was just someone that would be somewhat level headed I don't know that we get bullheaded I 10:58 hope so. That is the secondary market 11:01 right so 11:05 but yeah, someone although I probably get accused of being one of the more I think with my emotions first type of admin in there, you know, we we try to be fair, it can be a challenge you know, we used to admin under our names in there and then we used to add many and under the bsm page just because guys get they get ridiculous. Their their bourbon feelings get out of control. They they can't contain it in their feelings journal. And so they have 11:46 I didn't create that, that that graphic. Well, I didn't create the actual feelings journal journal, but that was someone else that made that picture. But I do take credit for for putting that into the the bourbon secondary Mark vernacular as the word. So, but yeah, so that's, I mean, that's how it came to be was just, yeah, I'm happy to help out. I think now, whenever we are looking for admin, I think our first rule is, if someone is reaching out if they're actively pursuing being an admin, like, Hey, I love to help out. No, you're not nobody, it's not a good fit. Nobody wants an admin in there. But we're, you know, a close knit bunch of guys and but yeah, we admin from the page just because, you know, guys get crazy, they threaten your family. They threaten your livelihood, it gets ridiculous all over a silly bottle of bourbon. So. So that's, you know, that's that's why that changed, initiated. So today, you know, we have this email come out, that basically says Facebook's changing their community standards are tightening them. And so therefore, or any groups that buy sell trade alcohol, they want to have that activity cease. And so we, of course, had discussions about how that would affect us how we would operate. And so I think that what you're going to find is that the mega balls group, which we also run, for auctions, that's going to get I won't, I won't call it mothball. But we're just not, we're just kind of not going to be adding any map. So I don't have the logistics of that yet. Which Owen could probably speak better to that myself. And then regards to bsm. 13:41 Yeah, as like, let's let's focus on the bsm kind of, kind of what was because I know that's what a lot of people are here, really waiting for is, is what is what is going to be the next iteration. And by the way, for anybody that is just like, totally, like, not have any idea. they're new to bourbon, yes, there's this huge secondary market that exists. There's like 55,000 people in there and people post bottles for sale, people say they'll buy it, and then ends up and shows up your front doorstep. That's what he's kind of talking about this whole buy sell trade thing and this kind of open market that happens inside of Facebook. But Greg kind of talk about what is the, like the new ruling or kinda like the the next iteration of what is to come here, bsm? What's the, what's the go. So I think what 14:26 we're thinking now is that it may go to a straight deal by messenger sort of situation, I don't know that we've fully worked out the logistics of that. And I for myself, I just think, you know, admitting something like that will just be a nightmare. You know, in some ways, it's like a second job already. But I think that will kind of have to see how that plays out. I there hasn't been any, you know, doesn't make sense to go backup Facebook group, because you're under the same restrictions, right, your, your, your backup groups going to get tagged and, and knock down if you're engaging that activity. So right now, you know, what we've read into it is just change your group name. don't have anything in your group description about buy, sell trade, don't do any activity in your group. And of course, it only takes one upset person to direct that. So I think we're leaning towards a PM, a Facebook Messenger sort of based setup similar to us some other groups that are a little smaller than us, and our maybe secret and you got to know somebody to get in there. But used to be ran by a guy named Phil. You know, I think that, you know, certain groups that allow pm dealing and we never did, we are always about just having it done out in the open. So it it may very well likely be a one at from that. When we make a final decision. I know, Owen or you'll see a post via the bsm page will come up and say as such, but I think that's sort of the prevailing thought right now is that we would go to something one fat. 16:22 So Craig, you guys get this news today, what time today, like in the afternoon, 16:27 brown about I think I was just wrapping up with work when I checked my email. And I saw that, and then we started sharing that I think it was a little bit even earlier than that, when I hopped into the the admin chat and saw that there was already some discussion about that. 16:48 So you all you all have, you know, built something that is very much a part of the bourbon culture, especially kind of like the geek culture. And, you know, we A lot of us, you know, kind of look up to, you know, appreciate what you all have, you know, done. And now it's kind of be being taken away, you know, in some ways, I mean, you know, on the personal level, I know, you guys have been through a lot like in managing this, but you know, what were you all feeling when this came through what was going through your mind when, when you guys got this notice? 17:22 I think it's like, well, here it is, right? Like, there's always been, you know, guys have speculated about this sort of thing happening to, to our sorts of groups for for a while now have, you know, Facebook's done similar things with, with other groups that were of a sensitive subject matter that they felt like, we're not in line with their community standards. And so we've always felt like, you know, the hammer was going to fall at some point. And you know, if you remember quite quite a while back, we had that little kind of dust up when when bourbon groups just sort of vanished. And there, you know, Chicken Little came out and the sky was falling then right? And then does it feel different this time? It definitely like before, you didn't know what was going on. And again, you thought the same thing if you thought, well, this is it, you know, the hammer is finally falling. And Facebook has done away with us. And we were scrambling to figure out, you know, other social media avenues to form to do the same thing that we were doing now, this time around, it seems to be it seems a little more more serious, right? Like, there's a plan they're actively searching for, for the sorts of groups that are, you know, not by virtue of being a bourbon group, are you necessarily doing wrong, but whenever you cross that threshold to buy sell trade, then Facebook's not liking that. So? Yeah, it just feels like it may have more weight this time. We're we're treating it more. I think there's some within our ranks that that, you know, feel like maybe wait and see. There's also a little bit of disbelief, right? Like, was this just some, you know, nonsense email that someone has sent trying to troll us? Or, you know, something like that? several folks, even folks that manage large Facebook groups that are not bourbon related, been received an email. So yeah, I think just more serious is is a way to kind of sum it up so enough, that that, Owen and the rest of us feel like we want to react to it, to kind of just, you know, allow this sort of thing to carry on. And regardless of whether it's by Facebook, or not, like a quote, jurassic park here, like life will find a way, right. Like, if it's not hold on to your butts. Exactly. Like if it's not, if it's not via Facebook, you know, you can't keep a good flipper down right there. Right there, they're going to try to talk to their, their bottles of it, eh, Taylor small batch and, and well, or special reserve and, you know, whatever, no matter where they are, whether it's on in a smaller Facebook group, or Craigslist, or, you know, e Bay, God forbid, or what, you know, whatever, like, folks will find a way. So what we haven't talked about is any sort of moving to any other social media format. I think once upon a time we we mess around with a and I'll probably butcher the name may way. Page me we may way, there's actually people in chat that are 20:37 talking about that right now. I I'm unfamiliar with the platform 20:40 myself. Yeah. So we had we had messed around with that, you know, there, the issue you always run into with something like this is a group this size, when you switch over to something like that, like we had kind of sort of work the kinks out of admitting via Facebook. So then you switch to another platform and then admitting via that way, and trying to just figure out all the ins and outs of that is, is a bit of a headache. So 21:10 let's I feel like everyone's already on Facebook. So that's not 21:12 tough thing to 21:15 do just automatic because everyone's on their phone every single day. And so then they just see it 21:19 constantly. And it's just one more channel you got to keep up with when you have so many already. And it's like who wants another channel to mess with? But 21:28 you already have the older generation who's not on Facebook getting on there just for bourbon. Now, I don't even know what me we is. So 21:37 if any don't even know. 21:40 My barometer but migrate everyone over there's trouble. 21:44 No, no, you're totally right. I mean, Facebook is the logical platform for a lot of these kind of things, because that is where people spend their time already. And so Oh, and it sent us a message at least Blake and I a little bit earlier. And so I'll kind of talk about what he had had posted as the potential new rules. This is not official until it becomes official on the forum. But he had said that the kind of the new stuff is that you do not talk about buying selling or trading alcohol, because this is now against Facebook community standards. So that's no longer to be allowed inside the group. You're only here to see pictures, if you want to talk about to the person that posted a picture, then send them a pm. So kind of thinks of the old days of put something up there expected pm to come in as well. discussion posts are still not allowed go over to bourbon or for that, of course, thrown out the plug for you there Blake. But another way around this is that if you want to you just throw a link in to something that you had posted off of Facebook. So if you are posting it on bottle spot or Craigslist, you just drop the link in there, and then people can pm you that way. And that's how they can kind of get get in contact with you with that particular bottle. So it sounds like if there's a will there's a way because it's hard to lose a large majority of people like that, you know, with one fell swoop and then I'll take it another direction to and see what you guys think. You know, of course, will there's a way something's going to happen. And is this just going to start more segmented smaller groups and it's going to be hard to kind of find that that one big big group that was bsm. 23:26 I think as a community like and you know, I've grown tired of Facebook just in general you know, I've been I've been finding other avenues to do you know to buy and definitely definitely just from on a personal level. I mean I I don't enjoy Facebook I enjoy instagram and twitter but you know Facebook to me just It feels like it's it's become kind of like it went from somehow from being fun to like some mandatory you had you had to do you woke up you brush your teeth see check and see who posted a picture about their kid or something it just like in general, Facebook's losing a lot of steam and society is you know, as other platforms are growing, and I think the inevitability here, and I certainly I have an app and development, but I think the the inevitability here is that somebody creates something specifically for bourbon consumers. And frankly, it should be someone on this on this podcast right now. Because, you know, the fact is, is that this shits going to keep happening. I don't know if someone saw Mark Zuckerberg fake Pappy or what but the whole? It just it has. 24:42 What's that? It was me, sir. I always took you as a fake Pappy. Yeah. 24:49 lawyer? Absolutely. 24:51 Well, he knows how to get itself out of it. That's right law saying I can't refill this and sell it. But, you know, it's just this just just going to keep happening. And then they're going to say like, they're going to start regulating your, your private messaging and just, that's what what the fuck ever, you know. I mean, I actually, the last time this happened, I actually spent a lot of time reaching out to Facebook, getting comments from I spoke to people at Facebook. About the last time you know, the last time we had some sites go down and it just, you know, I mean, they played, they played me a fool. They played every wonderful like they fit, you know, they played our government a fool. Facebook just does whatever the fuck it wants to do. I mean, it's it's stills are information. They're just, they're turds. And I hate all of this. And, you know i, that the secondary group, there comes the feeling channel, you know, right. 25:51 Give me Give me my own mean. 25:54 Or, or as my friend Steve Sabin would say, fuck that guy. 26:00 But that's how I feel about Facebook, fuck. 26:03 I think at the end of the day, right, so we're all and he notices with the whole delete Facebook move and see a ton of different long reads on tech blogs or other areas, like people are still going to use Facebook man or walk right, you can't kick it, as Fred mentioned, you wake up, brush your teeth, check Facebook, but like, that's what people realize. You know, you might leave Facebook, but there are society stays on. But that being said, bourbon might leave Facebook, and people will go with it. Because at the end of the day, people want to make money, they're going to go where the money is. So it may be more of an inconvenience, and people might complain about it. But they're still going to go do it because they're going to want to sell bourbon and they're going to I want to buy bourbon and you know, free economy will find a way. So I think it's just gonna be a super convenience. And people complain about it a lot. That being said, about a lot of people just go wherever the money is going to take them, which is the end of the day is what it's all about anyways, right? We're not like talking about a community or like, Hey, you know, checking on each other, it's, I'm going there to make money, I'm going there to spend money, that's all it is. Right? 27:00 Drop, dropping the hammer, 27:02 I kind of the tough part is figuring out Facebook's logic in this. And to me, it's just they don't want the liability. You know, we've talked about this before on multiple different whether it's shipping or just online sales, whatever it is, Facebook doesn't want the liability. So they gotta at least put that out there. What I'm interested to see is, you know, kind of going back to asking, Craig, does this feel different than the times before? Is, is Facebook really going to follow through with this? You know, it kind of does sound like they are and it is a little bit different. But we've been down this road before and then maybe kind of a See See ya a move from them of who knows, I don't know what kind of legal ramifications they'd have. You know, Brian could probably speak a little more to that seems like in the past, there's been a whole lot of other shady or deals happen on like Craigslist, and that kind of stuff. And I don't know if those guys have ever gotten in trouble or prosecuted for for, you know, actual illegal behavior, or at least more illicit behavior. But it will see, you know, it definitely is a big platform. I've kicked around ideas of having having a solution on my site with seal box. But it's just like, there's a lot of issues you have to solve before you jump into that. And Facebook was always just the easiest route, because everyone was there. So that'll be interesting. Next, next couple of weeks, for sure. 28:30 Yeah, it sort of struck me is is and maybe this is just wishful thinking something that all pass that they'll crack down for a little bit. And you have to be doing things through links to bottle spot or direct messages or whatever. And then it sort of flows back into the way it was. I mean, that's, that's my guess, anyhow, I don't I think you're right, Blake, that it's probably a lot of See ya from Facebook. But other than that, it's, yeah, there's the underlying fact that in most jurisdictions, you can't sell person to person on the secondary market. So once they get their lawyers involved in telling them that I mean, that's, that's the road, they're going to go down every single time. You know, your rules, 29:16 rules, 29:18 rules, we make exceptions to the rules, we enforce the rules, and we get paid on at each step of the way. I'm 29:26 honest about it. 29:26 It's the greatest cycle there is in business. 29:29 Exactly right. Yeah. To get paid at every step 29:34 to I've wondered, too, is this going to push it more? Is there a lobbying effort? Maybe is this going to push it more toward like Kentucky's vintage spirits law and is there a push to get it into those retailer hands so that you have some assurances against fakes if you're buying it from a reputable vintage, you know, retailer, 29:57 that's a great point, I actually had this conversation with a friend of mine who's in the, is a really big seller. And I said, it's going to be great for for us because no one knows where to go to get bottles. And you know, and then if you have if yours, if you're a key person, and this in this chain, everybody's going to remember you from those groups, or whatever. And you're just going to call them and so you're going to have, you're going to have more, you know, more buyers from from that perspective. And I'll also say like, I get probably five, five emails a day, and I'm not even kidding, five emails a day of just someone from someone finding something in their basement. And I try to always push them into the legal ways to to sell that. And nobody wants to do that. So that's right. No One No one wants a record of the transaction. Everybody wants cash. 30:53 So just just low ball but keep the bottles here so 30:58 maybe that's what you 31:01 all those emails to me, Fred put an automatic 31:05 inquiring about said ever you get him to? Great Basin him to all of us. 31:10 One of us, right? 31:12 Of course. Yeah. 100%. And then it's like double what the secondary market is, like, was thinking maybe around $4,000 for Pappy 15? 31:21 Because it was their grandpa's and their grandpa? 31:25 So it has additional meaning to them. It sounds about right game of Go 31:29 Fish. 31:30 Yeah. Like the Nigerian prince all over again. So, you know, 31:36 while we're talking about sort of what the next phase of this is, I mean, do you think if there's any other platforms where something like this could live? Or is Facebook, the only one because if we roll back a few years, read it went through the same exact thing. And so Reddit kind of shut down their, their whole entire sales motion. And so when you look at the difference of what you see on Reddit versus what you see on Facebook, it's too opposite worlds, right? It is definitely more conversation focused, review focused, everything like that, versus Facebook, which is buy sell trade, and then you've got a few groups that are kind of like news. You don't really have a whole lot of people putting their tasting notes out there. But do you think if there's anything else have, 32:17 I mean, at the end of the day, right? So both Reddit Facebook, at its core, at least for like the bsm and the Reddit, it's just a V, it's an old school, the Bolton board, that's all it is. It's just an old school forum, if someone just creates a forum, and yeah, it's one more link, you have to go to a new moderator. That's all it is. Right? Anyone I mean, literally anyone watching right now or listening later on, not and do this, you just got to get the masses to go there. But that's literally That's hard. That's all we're talking about Facebook, and not at all was just an only thing. 32:48 The winning ticket here is that there is a there's a paywall to get into, you know, some kind of forum, you know, so you pay 50 bucks to be a member. And, you know, somebody takes on the liability of having the having the forum. And, and the it happens there, you know, and then it's not public, you know, you have to you have to get there, you have high level privacy. things in there, you know, and, you know, I used to belong to a few of those in like author circles, and, you know, I'd be I'd be communicating with, you know, high level authors. And, and there was no, I wouldn't be able to share that information. Of course, it's the internet. So you always could do it, but I would be penalized strictly by the the agreement I signed to be a part of it. So I think there is a way to do this, and we can protect the people who want to enjoy this hobby. But I'll go to the lawyer here in the ass. Is that possible? Could could we create some kind of 33:53 private forum where we get out 40,000 33:55 people in 33:56 there? What can you do? What can you do something like sports, but or gambling? Like, you know, but when I did used to gamble, I had a private website that I went to and yeah, back in the day 34:08 where you would going on? You 34:10 would, you know, you bet your and you'd have your bookie and you would meet him, you know, once a week to settle up. I mean, and it goes on, like all I mean, it still goes on. And so it seems like that could happen for some of these secondary markets also 34:22 means you have an intermediate intermediary 34:25 act like a I mean, it wouldn't be legal obvious, right. But I mean, sports bookies and gamblers are getting away with it. Nobody's cutting them down to shut it down. 34:32 Right. I think that's a bigger market. Much bigger market. 34:36 Yeah. aliens. There. So here, yes. And then that's why I'm not exactly sure. I haven't figured out why there's the focus on the whiskey market here. I mean, it's sure we've got 50,000, or whatever it is members of these groups, but what's that it's a drop in the bucket. It shouldn't really bother anyone. But when it comes down to it, it's in most jurisdictions, you're not supposed to do it. Fuck Facebook. 35:07 So it's Facebook now in the same genre as vodka in the lounge, red manic, a lot of hatred. We need a sign behind you, Fred. 35:20 like Facebook right now, you know, 35:22 Facebook has its purpose, you know? I mean, I don't know, I don't know what that purpose is anymore. But whatever. So vodka, vodka has no purpose. Let's just put it that way. 35:35 So to kind of wrap this up, one last question for Craig, what are you going to do with all your free time now? You know, 35:43 honestly, I was probably over the past few months have been one of the lesser active admins, but you know, it makes for you gotta do something while you're sitting on the toilet. Right. So now I guess I have to go back to reading or 35:56 something like that. 35:58 Wait, wait, wait, did you 36:02 You did all that admitting while you were on the toilet? 36:05 I mean, what else? What else? You gonna do it? Right? 36:12 Well, they weren't accepting donations. So you know, they weren't getting paid for the job. So it's, it's out of the graciousness of their hearts that they were doing. So absolutely. So Craig, thank you so much for coming on tonight and kind of giving us a breakdown of sort of the the history of what it is and sort of the future of what we can expect from the the new bsm going forward. So, again, as of today, everything is still provisional. So wait until you hear from an admin on a forum to kind of see what the, the actual future will hold. But if own or anybody else wants to that on the admin team, they will post the email that Craig was talking about at the very beginning that we were alluded to as well, so they can see that this wasn't just all smoke and mirrors. That was a real thrill threats happening. Alright. 37:02 Thanks, Greg. Appreciate it. Thanks, guys. 37:03 Yep, man. 37:06 So while we wait for Mariana to come on, you know, let's let's kind of switch it in a different direction. But let's go ahead and kind of take it as I mentioned, we had a we had a listener sort of reached out to us and talked about it was actually Patrick Nall. 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So it is a really a kind of a sad reality of it is you don't want that to ever be a problem for someone who you're enjoying a hobby with. And then all of a sudden, that's an issue. So for me, it's just like taking, you know, whether it's a week, few days, you know, some even go month off of drinking, I think that's really if you figure out if that and that dependence is there, and it's no longer fun, and you're just drinking to drink. So I think that's important to take time off every now and then. 40:46 So I think I'm know, I'm the only one here that does it full time. Right? Jordan Are you full time yet? 40:54 drinker? 40:57 This is like I know, Kenny, you'd said, this is the hobby, this is actually what I do for my living and have done so for more than a decade. And, you know, when I came, I, you know, I'll share something very personal, you know, I, I have PTSD for my time. And in Iraq. And I have been, I've been fighting that for, you know, since I've been home. And in that process, I went through a lot, you know, in my recovery, I went through a lot of therapy. And one of the things that I picked up was was mindfulness. And that and that is one of one of the reasons why bourbon really, why I think I really focused on on tasting was because mindfulness was basically a way for me to ground myself of something else. And you would have to think entirely about whatever it is you were doing, whether you were like you were in a year and a moment you're trying to visualize and feel everything in that moment. For me, I would visualize and feel everything on my palate. And, and when I am not able to taste something, I put the I put it down like in in oftentimes, you know, I won't, I won't be mindful of what day it is. And I'll be like, on a, on a anniversary date of something that happened, it could be you know, it could be, you know, the day that, you know, I saw someone get killed, it could be the day I almost got killed, it can be something like that. But there there are, there are things that in us that we don't always know. But we we automatically get into, you know, bad moods, and so everybody will have something that can give them a sign for when they get themselves in a problem drinking situation. And for me, it's tasting, and it's in particular of like, where on my palate, I taste something. So I would challenge anyone who wants to, you know, explore this for themselves, I would say analyze the moments that you've had, you know, you may have had too much and you did something that you shouldn't have, or you just went too far, I would say analyze, you know what you felt like going into that situation, and see if you can stop yourself from going in that situation again. And so that's just one thing that I do, I also try to like not have, you know, there's tasting, and then there's drinking, my tasting is like analytical, I keep it very, you know, smell it, analyze it, taste it, spit, you know, drinking. And this is, you know, where I can get myself into a little bit of like, you know, having more than two is if I'm watching justified if I'm watching something that I'm really into. And I'm just into that moment, or if I'm reading a book that I'm really into, and I just keep like, you know, pouring, you know, and then I'm suddenly I've got four, you know, so like, it's being mindful of that as well. It's like knowing when you want knowing when you need to stop. And always, always, always have a plan to get home. That's the most one of the most important parts do not get in the car if you've been drinking. And most importantly, the distilled spirits Council has a has a sheet for what is moderating moderation and drinking. And I really try to follow that. And you know, men can drink more than women. But there is there is a an amount and I think turns out to be something like 15 drinks a week for four men. Those are 44:37 fantastic. points. Fred, thanks for sharing. And I think I think to add on to that, right? You touched on a little bit in there. I think everyone's different. Right? So if you feel, you know, to some people to drinks, they'll be they'll be drunk, right? Everyone's body is different. So if you feel that you're drinking all the time, or getting drunk all the time, just because you're only having two, three drinks the night right? When you see other people having 910, 15, whatever, right? That doesn't mean you know, it's okay to justify it. So you'll know your own limits. And don't compare yourself against anyone else. Right? That's the best way of doing it. You know what's right for you? Right? And you know, what's going to be too much. And you're going to know, it's just right. And everyone finds that point sometime in life and just kind of be as friends and mindful of it. But don't don't compare yourself and say, Well, you know, I see everyone else on Facebook drinking. I don't know, eight doubles tonight, right? I only drink four. I'm okay force too much for you. It's too much for you if that that's what you got to keep in mind. Right? Everyone has their own personal limit. And you do have to, as Fred said, just being mindful of that. And that's one of the keys things to do too. 45:43 Did you find that limit when you're selecting a bottle or a barrel a pin hook this past week? Well, we will thankfully 45:50 told people about this first. So me. Yeah, so really quick. So me and Nick went down along with Ryan to select a bottle for break room and single barrel club from Pinnacle. They're looking to Castle on key. So they propose a crazy cool, but kind of crazy, this experience where we worked with their, you know, their master taster that they work with the castle on key to narrow down. They pulled a lot of 40 little over 40 barrels for us. And these are the barrels designated for the single barrel program. And so I'm just going through like three or four, we went through all of them, we drank all the Bourbons. So they did prove them down to 5060 proof, right? And it was a lot of smelling a lot of sensory stuff. Tons of sensory stuff, lots of spitting. So the amount of actual bourbon we drink at the end of the day, what would you say, right? We drink even like two ounces of bourbon. 46:33 If that if that. And yes, I was spitting, I was falling. It was only like two or three ounces in that plastic cup by the new day. And it was a 40% or 52. But yeah, that was like Fred said it was very analytical. Very, you know, we were thoughtful, we were very focused on what we're doing. Like we weren't there just to like, sloshing back. And our motive wasn't to go get slammer or whatever. But mean, I think you just have to know, like Fred talked about, I'm big in mindfulness awareness, like I have ADHD. And I know like, when my mind can kind of take over and send me places. And then when I've had too much, I just my body can tell me like, all right, you need to settle down for a few days, and you gotta listen to your body when you start to, like, ignore that. And you start to like, drink to fight off the the night before, you know, chasing the hair of the dog, you know, that's when I think you're like really going down a slippery slope. And I've had, I've had those days, you know, you go on a bachelor party, or you're a lake weekend or a golf weekend, and you're you're there to party for two or three days. And then like, All right, I'm done for like three or four days, you know, just to clear it up. And then when you can't recognize that I think that's when you definitely need to, to seek some help and find some because there's definitely some issues there. 47:51 Yeah, I don't know the answer. Certainly. But Fred, thank you for your your openness on that. I think that's, that will help a lot of people. Listen, running today and in the other comments about just knowing yourself and knowing when it's time to take a break. So I think that's I really appreciate those 48:10 personally. Alright, so that kind of sparked a topic and kind of went down a crazy little hope we hope we can come back out of this and raise spirits, I guess if you can a little bit. But this is really coming because there was an article on CNN this past week and talked about how investors are looking at alternatives to bars. And there's a maybe it's like a Brooklyn thing like I don't know, where there's these sober bars that are kind of coming up, right, the people are making these craft mock tales, and they still cost you 1012 bucks apiece. But do you see this is like a like a catching on thing? Or do you see this is a 48:55 just a fad 48:56 for so last year, last year, it tells you the cocktail the world, you know, most important largest, you know bar conference, they had a party, lamb grant through a party where there was no alcohol, like the opening party had no alcohol. So this is like a really a really real trend. And they're they're trying to chase 23 year olds don't drink. 49:22 So let's just go ahead, and we'll let Mary Ann's joined us. So we'll, we'll kind of wrap up this topic really quick. So Mary, and we're talking about sober bars if they are actually going to become a thing. So Fred, I'll let you finish up your thought and then will will lead on over to Mary and then 49:39 yeah, the the growth of of like the silver bars and this trend of like, just eliminate drinking. It falls in line with all these efforts to legalize alcohol advertising. And these fraudulent studies that are coming out from a publication called Lancet that is extrapolating minute to minute amounts of data and basically saying, you know, all alcohol causes all kinds of cancers. And so we're having, we're having this basically this frantic health scare. That is it, in my opinion, is fraudulent. And the industry cannot fight it. Like they're losing everywhere they turn. Because you know, there's a new study every week that tells you you're going to get cancer, if you drink alcohol. And the sad part is is every one of those damn studies almost they almost always get recanted. But the fact is that it gets on USA Today wants its air forever. 50:35 Sounds round up. And what I deal with on a day to day basis 50:40 doesn't cause cancer. 50:44 It causes it in California, but not exactly. 50:46 If you think about it, though, there's there's other studies that come out that says, oh, a glass of wine a day or glass of whiskey a day, whatever it is, and then you're going to live to 90, you know, these are and anybody that I Google's it, I think there was a TED talk or something like that, where somebody actually made a fake scientific research study and it got published in like PR news and like all or Newswire and all this kind of crazy stuff. So it was basically a study this be actually show like how false the sort of scientific studies are that that get really blown out of proportion. So it sounds like there's a there's a lobbyist group that's really pushing towards this for to make something like this a reality. 51:29 Yeah, for sure. 51:31 Anybody else have any other comments or thoughts on that before we change directions? 51:34 My only thought is that article that you sent us Kenny the the description of one of those drinks was so god awful that that should kill it in its crack. So I wrote it down and acidic beverage made from vinegar, fruit sugar, and club soda. I mean, that should kill the lemon right there. 51:53 probably use that. You could probably use that for round up. What 51:58 was it? Mix it up, right? 52:00 What's the cocktail mix made out of apple cider vinegar? It's um, where they do the fruit and the apple cider vinegar shrub. Yeah, I mean, it's basically a non alcoholic syrup, isn't it? I could be wrong. 52:10 Sure. 52:14 I'm not a bartender. 52:17 was the worst thing I've ever done in the kitchen. I can buy these from now on. 52:22 Definitely taste better than they smell. 52:25 Yes. Yes. Yeah. 52:28 I was like, I'll use vinegar on like, you know, reheating like pork butts and stuff like that. We don't we do. We smoked smoked barbecue, stuff like that, but haven't really done a whole lot in the cocktails. that's a that's a whole new that for me. That's a hard pass. So with that, let's go ahead and bring on our next guest. So you heard her already. She's been on the podcast before. I think it was like Episode 16. Like way, way back in the day. 52:52 When we we were not very good. We we still suck but I think we're 52:57 less sucky now. Marianne, welcome back to the show. 53:00 Thank you so much candy as a pleasure. 53:03 Yeah. So you know, we love to have you on I know, Fred. Fred kind of thinks of you like, like a little sister sometimes. You know, he feels like, 53:11 like you all went shopping together? 53:18 Yeah. You know, Sir Paul. 53:22 But we kind of want to have you on and kind of talk about, you know, what's new with you? You know, it's not I mean, I think you you made national headlines, right? I mean, it was everywhere the of the separation between you and castle and key. So So kind of talk a little bit about it, and sort of what's on the horizon for you, too. 53:41 Yeah, I, I am really proud of of everything that I've built. And we achieved it at Castle and key. But what I've learned about myself is that I really love making things and building things. And you know, kind of all my startup energy was used in in castle and key to get them where they are. And I'm ready to try some new things. I've been wanting to get into some different spirit categories. Not that I'm going to leave bourbon, and not not permanently anyway. But I want to get some experience in mezcal and rum and we'll see where where life goes from there. 54:20 Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think for a lot of us, you know, we were we were all kind of shocked to see the news because we were you had been really the face of the brand for so long. I don't think there was a day that we didn't see on Instagram with you at the distillery or seeing the the gardens or something like that. So you know, definitely we wish them the best of luck and everything that they're doing, and you as well, but kind of kind of talk I know you kind of took a little bit of a break to I you went out west for a few days to kind of regroup. 54:49 Yeah, I knew it was going to be big news when when that press release went out. So I just went ahead and made the executive decision that being in a remote island in the Pacific Northwest. And my my aunt's treehouse, my dad's cousin would would be a good idea. So yeah, I took a few days off and spend some time in winter and getting ready to take a little bit more time off down in Florida right now. And I'll be heading back out west next month. So yeah, some some exploration and travels coming up just to regroup a little bit before I figure out what's next. 55:26 It's kind of talk, you know, I've been in a situation to where we're looking for for new gigs right away, and you kind of need that time away. But what was the response like from other companies or anything like that, where they was like, Oh, crap, she's on the market. We gotta grab it real quick. I mean, did you have any of those conversations pop up? 55:49 Yeah, I had lots of people reaching out to me through the website, you know, some folks just looking to pick my brain for consulting type work. others that were like our Yeah, we've got a brand or we're starting something. And we wanted to know if you were interested in being our master distiller, but I'm not really interested in just getting another job. The consulting part is really interesting to me, I think, you know, my, my expertise in developing products and helping to design processes is something that a lot of folks more so maybe outside of Kentucky could benefit from, you know, learning the authentic Kentucky way of making spirits. But yeah, I really just want to get back into the gears and challenge myself and maybe, you know, learn learn some new things. 56:43 Your opportunity like in other spirits, like as, I wouldn't say, bourbon stagnant for your like, you know, because it's kind of the same thing. Like, there's not much variance or variation you can kind of do with that like, like with mezcal or other spirits. Does that kind of get more creative with? 56:58 I am. I'm just totally convinced that we're not done innovating and bourbon yet, but it just seems like every new thing is kind of a thing, an iteration of something that's already been done. Yep. So I think there's, there's a whole new genre of innovation out there that nobody's tapped into yet. And what it is is inspiration from other spirits, you know, and I have yet to learn everything I need to actually execute that but I think there's there's lots of interesting spirits and lots of unique ways that they create flavor that we can bring back and even though you know, it's this certain set of regulations that make bourbon what it is there's there's there's more to play with. 57:47 Right? And it's not like the bourbon consumers are so open to new ideas, you know, 57:53 with a product offer friendly, so welcoming. 57:58 Sure, our I was like, that's been the bread and butter for a while. So it's, I mean, if you've been trained in that area, or is that something that you're just you're looking to explore 58:09 in what area Miss cows and 58:12 other things? 58:13 Yeah, not Not really. I mean, I worked for brown Forman, which is a global spirits company. It's not just whiskey. Although I did focus a lot on whiskey. I I spent a lot of time in Mexico and out in California making wine they sent me to Belgium to do a few local projects. I I made vodka for them. 58:41 Along with Fred just lost Fred 58:46 he didn't spit it out. 58:51 He was just being kind. 58:54 did say I did right after I did taste it. I did ask you straight I was like, What are you doing? Why do you Why do you drinking vodka? 59:02 Dude, 59:03 yeah, it's a shame that that was the first thing that you tasted that I've made from scratch. Yeah. 59:11 Music is there anything to drink up here? Like we're gonna go to the warehouse next but you got this clear stuff that but 59:21 now you seem to have a real passion for gin. And like, you know, we hung out you know the other day and you know, we were you know, having some a lot of different a lot of different gin cocktails. What's your What's your favorite style? adyen there's a lot out there. Geez, it like gin is a almost infinite world of ways that you can change the flavor. I think that's the thing that's so interesting about it is you can do almost anything. 59:50 my palate, you know, as a bourbon distiller kind of leans towards something that's more balanced. So a London dry. That's like super Juniper forward is not where I tend to gravitate. So like a botanical, more modern botanical style, but doing really unique things. Like I think that the castle in Cajun, well, nothing is super crazier off the wall. It's unique in the way that it's crafted. And that's not my favorite word ever, but just the thoughtfulness of the ingredients and how they're integrated together. 1:00:31 Yeah, absolutely. Since you were talking about consulting earlier, David Jennings of Robert when no one wanted to ask, because you had missed the earlier half of this conversation, if you wanted to start consulting on helping direct the the new urban secondary markets and it's now going under. 1:00:49 I don't know how I can help. 1:00:56 Secondary. Did you ever did you ever buy anything? You ever buy any old bottles on a secondary market? 1:01:03 No. I tried to barter for a couple but never actually got any bites on that. Give me a great VIP tour. 1:01:12 I remember I 1:01:14 remember like, like, this was a long time ago. You were was when you were with Woodford maybe 2013 2014 1:01:24 It was a long time ago. But you were you did bring up like some kind of you know interaction with you and with you and Chris for a bottle. Is that what you're talking about when you were trying to like have a An Evening with with Chris Morris for a bottle that ring a bell? or using one of those bourbon secondary markets? And and you were trying to get people to come to a Chris Morris event? 1:01:55 Is it was it the the old president's choice? 1:02:06 She's the one she she brought up. 1:02:10 Yeah, here remember that? No, this was actually a castle. You know, a lot of folks would have those old castle decanters. Like, like, I'd never seen one before. You know, 1:02:21 for however many hundreds of dollars. 1:02:26 I don't really want to give you money. But if you like to come out and take a tour, Hillary, we can probably work something out. 1:02:34 And everybody always wants money. Mary. 1:02:38 I understand. 1:02:40 So last question. Miriam. Before we we ask one more question, then we'll kind of round this out. So for you, I know you talked about wanting to do consulting but kind of picture dream job. So here, would you like to start at something smaller and help build that up? Kind of like a you know, Catholic? He was kind of big? Let's be honest. That's a pretty massive place. 1:03:01 Looking at perfect size, perfect size? Yeah, we definitely need 1:03:06 it or would you rather go to a large corporation? You know, if it would be the heaven hills, it would be the Maker's Mark of the world, whatever it is? Or would you just like to just keep doing the consulting and bouncing around and, you know, Mark night, he please put me putting you in some tough shoes to fill here and said, Marian, could be the next day pickrell with a question mark. 1:03:28 I what, I definitely think that his passing lifted a gap in the market. So as much opportunity is this comes from that I would be grateful for I've had lots of various brands reach out. I think, you know, I'm just gonna leave myself open to the universe and see what what happens. And I don't want to say for sure, you know, and I 1:03:56 will or won't, you know, build my own someday, I think then 1:04:03 I would love to be involved with with people who are passionate and want to make good stuff. And if they turn into large brands, that's cool. If they want to keep them small and boutique, that that's fine, too. 1:04:16 Sorry. And just to have it on the record, this means you're open to pursuit spirits 1:04:23 whatever you were saying earlier will make it happen. 1:04:30 Marianne, I'll say like, you know, 1:04:33 I I've talked about you know, many times often in defense of abuse, sadly, you know, when people bring up you know, the master distiller role and everything, and, and I just don't tell you, you know, you can do anything, you know, you're, you have, you have incredible you have incredible, you know, smarts for this business, you haven't you have an ability to market, you know, for marketing and everything as well. And that's rare. And, you know, when you came out and chose to take the title of master distiller, you became a hero for a lot of young women. And there were there were women in their 50s who looked up to you after that, and, and I know that you had a lot of, I'm sorry, there's there's a chat going on in our in our group. Our, our, we've been, we've been banned, you've been named, but you you can marry and you could do anything. So whatever. Whatever it is. You want to put your mind to you know, I hope it's I hope it's bourbon. I hope you do stay on bourbon. I think you have a talent here. 1:05:55 For God's sake, stay away from vodka don't 1:05:57 don't take your talents 1:05:58 to god yeah. 1:06:02 Word of word in your in your opening statement was flavor. Yeah, just remember that let that be the driver dreams. 1:06:10 And always that cordial Fred 1:06:18 should go with a flavored vodka is 1:06:22 you guys are horrible. 1:06:27 So that was a good way to sort of wrap this up. But I do have because we always end up having way more comp topics to talk about. And I kind of want to do this one real quickly. Also, to kind of trail on what Fred said. There was somebody that spammed our chat going on it was sexy, triple x asking to people to click on links for cheeseburgers and booze. 1:06:49 And it's like is Jordan Jordan Jordan put in here like maybe we should have her on next time? 1:06:55 seem cool. cheese burgers, like the link unfortunately. 1:07:03 I was so confused when that pop up because I wasn't following the chat. And I'm like what? Who's sexy? 1:07:11 Why am I not in the chat right now? 1:07:16 I was doing my best not to lose it. 1:07:19 So speaking of cheeseburgers and booze here this was a question that Fred had put out on Twitter this past week and would you drink a marijuana infused bourbon? Go ahead. What do you think 1:07:32 only if it had real weed in it? 1:07:34 Yeah cuz let's let's before there was a lot of back and forth before like 1:07:37 of like it just 1:07:38 they put THC in know, like, we're 1:07:41 putting like the real deal in here. Like we're not doing this whole like you know, hemp bullcrap. Whatever it is, like let's go let's go all in here. And also people are going there they're kind of pissed because they're like it's not bourbon then if it's infused like we get it Okay, like like we know it's new category people just want to they really got a harp on it. But I guess the question is, is reefer bourbon Are you in or out? 1:08:05 So if anyone's had sharp Bay Have you already had it? 1:08:10 is using hops the 1:08:16 man I don't know, man. Margot. He's dropped a little ganja up. 1:08:21 There might be a little bit more than hot. Yeah. 1:08:24 Yeah. If it gives the same effect. Yes. I'm all in. Thank you. 1:08:28 Please. Somebody said yes. Because I say yes. Yeah. You know, 1:08:34 I'll go the hybrid route. Okay, 1:08:36 since I haven't added there's a there's a bar in New York you asked for a dragon and he get

When you think of industrial furnaces you may think of the late 19th or early 20th centuries and places like Baltimore, Buffalo, and Pittsburgh. But, the history of American industry goes back much further – and one of the earliest industrial sites in Maryland is located in the foothills of Frederick County at the Catoctin Furnace. Today’s guest, Elizabeth Comer, a professional archaeologist, is a member of the Board of the Catoctin Furnace Historical Society – an organization dedicated to preserving and interpreting this unique story. Elizabeth is instrumental in coordinating the Historical Society's Historic Building Trades Program in partnership with Silver Oak Academy, a residential boarding school for at-risk teens overseen by the State of Maryland Department of Juvenile Services. Participating students learn valuable construction skills while working alongside preservation experts gaining marketable real-world job skills that attract potential employers in preservation, conservation, museums, and the trades – or may even inspire students to start their own company. The partnership between the Catoctin Furnace Historical Society and Silver Oak Academy embodies the mythology of the phoenix rising from the ashes as the symbol of renewed life for both the historic buildings and the young people who take part in their preservation.  Make sure you have your blast shields down...we’re headed into the furnace on this week’s PreserveCast.

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Nick Diaz was an educator in the Frederick County Public schools as a math teacher for 30 years. he currently is retired but acts as the Academic Tournament Coordinator. The tournament is in its 38th year and is open free to the public and promises to bring its usual excitement as students from all highschools in Frederick County go head to head, putting their knowledge and recall to the test. Since 1982, Linganore teams have won the tournament nine times, Frederick High has won six, teams from Gov. Thomas Johnson, Middletown, and Walkersville have each won five, Urbana has won three, Brunswick has won twice, and teams from Catoctin and Tuscarora have each won once. The web site for more information is, https://fcacademictournament.webs.com/

In this episode, we follow a group of mixologists from Northern Virginia through a harrowing, three-round cocktail competition hosted by Catoctin Creek Distilling Co. in Purcellville, VA. They must create three original cocktails using the Catoctin Creek spirits as a base, while also featuring a secret ingredient that is reavealed at the beginning of each round. The contestants are: Phil Duong - AhSo (Brambleton) Samet Yuksekgonul - The Conche (Village at Leesburg) Andrew Jennens - Sense of Thai St. (One Loudoun) Jeff Berry - The Wine Kitchen (Leesburg) Sam Scarlett - Kinship (Washington, D.C.) The contest was adjudicated by Catoctin Creek International Portfolio Manager Chad Robinson, Brian Jenkins owner of local restaurant Monk’s BBQ, and Trevor Baratko, editor in chief of the Loudon Times-Mirror.

Camp David is nestled in the bounds of Catoctin Mountain Park, but you wouldn't know it if you visited. The private presidential getaway turned 75 last year, and it's been a retreat for presidents from Franklin Roosevelt to Donald Trump, who's controversially preferred Mar-a-Lago or Bedminster. The closest the public will ever get is from well beyond its maximum security fences, but on Tuesday, we get a peek inside Camp David and its home, Catoctin Mountain Park, with Rick Slade, ranger and park superintendent.

Kevin McMullen, the outgoing athletic director at Catoctin High School, looks back on a long career of coaching and teaching in Maryland. After 26 years in Frederick County Public Schools and 14 in Anne Arundel County before that, McMullen discusses the role athletics plays in the educational career of many students he's worked with.

Adam Fizyta of Catoctin Breeze Vineyard, just north of Thurmont, Maryland, opens up about effective, low-cost ways to engage guests and consumers. We’ll spend some time learning about his favorite approaches to using social media...plus, how a video combined with a contest went a long way in promoting brand-awareness for the vineyard. And we’ll also talk about the power of polls. Resources: Catoctin Breeze Vineyard website Want more? Find the companion articles and other helpful tidbits on video production and promotion from Digital Bard. Suggest a guest on Facebook. Rate or review this podcast on iTunes.

Did you know an iron forge in Frederick, Maryland was a stop on Harriet Tubman’s Underground Railroad? Predating the American Revolution, Catoctin Furnace ran for over a century. The Catoctin Furnace Historical Society – a recent Maryland Humanities grantee – formed in 1973. Archaeologist Elizabeth Anderson Comer, Secretary of Catoctin Furnace Historical Society, discusses melding the area’s well-known history with the lesser-known stories of some of the site’s enslaved workers.

Did you know an iron forge in Frederick, Maryland was a stop on Harriet Tubman’s Underground Railroad?   Predating the American Revolution, Catoctin Furnace ran for over a century.  The Catoctin Furnace Historical Society – a recent Maryland Humanities grantee – formed in 1973. Archaeologist Elizabeth Anderson Comer, Secretary of Catoctin Furnace Historical Society, discusses melding the area’s well-known history with the lesser-known stories of some of the site’s enslaved workers.

[cherry_row] [cherry_col size_md="12"] Take a run with Kevin Sayers. Kevin has been the race director of the Catoctin 50k for nearly 20 years, Massanutten Mountain Trails 100 for 8, and has just created his own series in the Northern Virginia area. He is also a long time member of the Virginia Happy Trails Run Club. Kevin is perhaps most known for his how-to of ultrarunning website, www.ultrunr.com. In this eposide we touch on a wide rang of topics beyond how Kevin got into ultra. We discuss how we define "old school," the challenges of coming online NOW as a new race series director, and so much more! SHOW NOTES: http://www.ultrunr.com Kevin's old school site on everything Ultra Cotoctin 50k Kevin's race for nearly 20 years Massanutten Mountain Trails 100 Kevin's been the RD here for 8 VHTRC One of the largest ultra clubs in the country Sherpa's Article on The Growth of Ultra Has Flattened Out [/cherry_col] [/cherry_row]

This week Michael visits Adam Fizyta (Co-owner), and Mike Lentini (winemaker) of Catoctin Breeze Vineyard

I sit down to chat with none other than Chad Robinson, who spearheads sales and distribution at Catoctin Creek Distillery, which means he gets to travel around the country talking to people about great spirits. He has also been known to enjoy a cocktail or two. Some of the other things we cover include: Chad’s book of spirit-inspired poetry, entitled Gadabouts Abound How to break the ice and build relationships in the world of craft spirits. The art and science of blending whiskey, rum, brandy, and even amari (with generous tasting notes) What to drink when you run into H.L. Menkin in Baltimore And much, much more Running into Chad at an event is always a treat, and it was a real blast to spend a few hours with him to record this episode. So please enjoy my spirited conversation with Chad Robinson.

We'll start off the New Year with a rare interview with Tim Morrison, managing director of A. Dewar Rattray and the son of Morrison Bowmore founder Stanley Morrison. Tim's career in the whisky business spans the acquisition of Bowmore by his family to today's independent bottlings he selects for A. Dewar Rattray. In the news, an update on Ralph Erenzo's condition and Whisky Magazine's U.S. Icons of Whisky winners.