Podcast appearances and mentions of katie sturino

At Totally Booked: Live! at the Whitby Hotel, Zibby interviews debut author and entrepreneur Katie Sturino about her sexy, laugh-out-loud romcom, SUNNY SIDE UP. Katie reveals how the book grew from her own post-divorce journey and her desire to portray a confident, bigger-bodied woman navigating dating, friendship, and self-reinvention, without conforming to “revenge body” tropes. She dives into the novel's bold early scenes, the importance of supportive female friendships, and the real-life inspiration behind Sunny's entrepreneurial storyline. Finally, she talks about building her personal care brand, Megababe, which offers clean, cute products that tackle “taboo” body issues… like the anti-chafing Thigh Rescue stick and the Le Tush butt mask. Share, rate, & review the podcast, and follow Zibby on Instagram @zibbyowens!** Follow @totallybookedwithzibby on Instagram for listening guides and more. **(Music by Morning Moon Music. Sound editing by TexturesSound. To inquire about advertising, please contact allie.gallo@acast.com.) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Indulgence Gospel After Dark!We are Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay, and it's time for your October Extra Butter episode. Today we're talking about plus size fashion influencer and body acceptance advocate Katie Sturino — who teamed up with WeightWatchers last year. What happened there? And where is the line between body liberation activism and capitalism? (Yes, we struggle with that too!) To hear the whole thing, read the full transcript, and join us in the comments, you do need to be an Extra Butter subscriber. Join Extra Butter! Already an Extra Butter subscriber, and having a hard time getting this episode in your podcast player of choice? Step by step instructions are here! Episode 217 TranscriptCorinneWelcome to Indulgence Gospel After Dark! If you're listening to this, you are part of Extra Butter, which means you're our favorite Burnt Toasties. VirginiaYour support makes all our work possible and keeps Burnt Toast an ad- and sponsor free space. Which is relevant to today's conversation! CorinneToday, we're going to talk about influencer and advocate Katie Sturino, who became famous on Instagram for her #SuperSizeTheLook content and for creating the Megababe product line. But more recently, she teamed up with Oprah and Weight Watchers, and has gone public about her use of GLP-1s.VirginiaSo before we get into it, let me do my standard caveat that I give anytime we do one of these episodes where we talk about a particular person's work in deal. Body autonomy is a given at Burnt Toast. Katie has the right to take her GLP-1s. That is her business. We're not interrogating that personal decision. We are also not "women tearing down other women," which is the other go-to critique of this work. We're considering Katie's entire body of work here, and we're asking: Is this true body liberation activism? Or is this an example of capitalism co-opting activism? I think that's a valuable question for anyone in the influencing space to be grappling with. I think Corinne and I both walk that line as well in our work. So we are going to critique Katie and some of the professional choices she's made but this is a lens we all benefit from looking through. CorinneWith that, I feel that I need to disclose that I have received gifted products from Megababe.VirginiaFor example! It's a gray area, guys. I have not, but I would have been happy to receive that gift. CorinneI recommended stuff from Megababe before I ever received free stuff! But I have received free stuff. And I do like some of their products. VirginiaThis episode is also not going to be a critique of specific products. Preventing thigh chafing is a noble endeavor.So how did you first encounter Katie Sturino? Do you remember when you first became aware of her work?CorinneIt's honestly hard for me to remember because I feel like she's been around for so long!VirginiaLike 10 years.CorinneIf not more!VirginiaIt was the mid-2010s when she really came onto the scene.CorinneI definitely encountered her Instagram. I think it was her style content. I remember seeing her going into a store and trying on stuff that didn't fit, or trying their biggest size and it wouldn't work for her. And then I also remember the #SuperSizeTheLook.VirginiaFor folks who don't know: #SuperSizeTheLook is a series where Katie picks a photo of a celebrity wearing a really cute outfit, and then styles herself wearing the same outfit. Usually not in identical pieces, because the sizes are not going to work. But she mimics the outfit, and she mimics the pose really well. If it's a celebrity getting out of a town car with a purse on her arm, Katie will also be getting out of a town car. Or walking a tiny dog. She mimics the whole vibe of the photo. And the goal is to show you that bigger bodies look cute in clothes. Which is a message we're here for! CorinneWhat about you? How did you first encounter her?VirginiaWhat's interesting about Katie and me is that we are the same age, we are both 44. And we both come out of the New York media world. I learned this all researching the episode; I don't know her personally. I never worked with her. But we have sort of similar trajectories into body liberation work.And when she first launched, her blog was originally called The 12ish Style. I was also a size 12-ish. Those were my Midsize Queen years, before moving into full plus sizes. So we've had similar trajectories of being in this space first a mid-sized person, and then a small fat person. I've always been interested in her fashion and the way she styles stuff, because it was often quite directly relevant to my own body, though not necessarily relevant to everybody. She is also, like, a foot taller than me, I think? She seems quite tall in photos and she wears very tall heels, too, which is impressive to me, if not actually something I can pull off. But I've always appreciated the vibe and the energy of Katie's content.  She's very open book. A lot of her posts are shot in her underwear, wearing no makeup, in a swimsuit. She's always showing us, "Here's what my real body looks like." There are critiques to be made of this genre of content making, but I think it's also powerful to see non-airbrushed, not super thin bodies. I think there's a lot of value in that. So I knew Megababe, I knew #SuperSizeTheLook, but I didn't know a ton of her backstory. So I did a little research, and most of what I'm going to share with you comes from a New York Times piece that ran in June with the headline, What Katie Sturino Wants You to Know About Her Body (and Yours, Too). This is by Madison Malone Kircher and it ran June 22, 2025.We're going to get into it later in the episode, but Katie is not thrilled with this piece. And I just want to say I have empathy for being in the New York Times and not being thrilled with the way they cover your work. Can relate! So I am going to quote from the piece, because I think it makes some interesting points, and there's some useful context in there. But I'm not saying this piece does the best job analyzing her work. The New York Times describes Katie as "a dog-obsessed public relations pro turned body positivity influencer slash entrepreneur, who built a social media audience by posting candidly about her life."Katie began her career in fashion PR. I think her first job was at Gucci or Dolce Gabbana. She then started her own PR firm in the 2010s. And then found found Internet fame as a dogager, which is a dog manager, running an Instagram account for her Cavalier King Charles Spaniel named Toast. So this is how she started. Did you know she was a dog influencer before she was a fashion influencer?CorinneI think I do vaguely remember that.VirginiaToast has since passed away. RIP Toast. Great name for a dog, obviously. But I did not know that she started as a dog influencer. That was news to me, and, frankly, rather delightful. But: Coming from a PR background, finding Internet fame through dog influencing...this is a very specific lens to which she's coming to this work. Katie is now a multi-hyphenate. She had a podcast called Boob Sweat. She wrote a non-fiction book Body Talk, which is an illustrated workbook about self love. She has a Substack newsletter. She has the Megababe the product line. And she published her first novel this spring. So Katie is very busy! She is doing a lot. Have you followed her for recs, or you've used Megababe? You like Megababe. CorinneI've used Megababe. I like Megababe. Her particular style has never quite been for me. It's hard to describe exactly what doesn't click for me. It's just very clear, even just reading the this bio—she's very savvy, she's always hustling, she always has kind of a business PR angle, which I both respect and don't relate to.VirginiaThis is her New York media roots. I never worked with Katie, but I worked with lots of Katies. I know this kind of hard-charging woman who's extremely smart and great at marketing and knows how to build a brand and talk to an audience. So she has that whole skill set—and she could be doing it about body positivity, she could be doing it about a dog. She's interested in building a brand. For example, let's consider her first novel Sunny Side Up. Katie tells the New York Times that she worked with a ghost writer: "I don't have the traditional path that a lot of people who write books have had, and I needed help," she said, adding she felt no shame or embarrassment about having a collaborator."I love how upfront she is about that. A lot of books are written by ghostwriters, and I sort of wish people were more aware of that. Mine were not. But I have been a ghost writer! So I don't mind that that's a part of it, but I do think that it's interesting that it wasn't Katie had a novel inside her that she was dying to write. It was that Katie knew that having a novel would be a good brand extension. And the novel is about a plus size fashion influencer who goes on to launch a plus size swimsuit line. And... Katie's plus size swimsuit line came out this summer right after the book launch.CorinneIt's honestly mind boggling. How does anyone handle all that?VirginiaYes, it's so many things. And it does make me take a slightly different look at some of her some of her body positive content. For example, a recurring theme is her in a swimsuit. And the caption is always something like, "figured you could use a size 18 woman in a swimsuit on your feed," just showing her normal body in a swimsuit. But now that I know she's selling the swimsuits that hits differently. So is that just a smart swimsuit marketing strategy or does it feel off to you? CorinneI mean, both? She seems incredibly smart. I'm just impressed that anyone can do as much as she's doing. And: I do think sometimes it feels like you're being sold to, you know?VirginiaAnd because her work is centered around a message that has a social justice component, and a self-help component: Where is the line between "these are her values, and she's built a business on her values, "and "she's co-opting advocacy rhetoric to sell us products?"CorinneIt's definitely a gray area. VirginiaTo further the gray area: I looked at more of her content and I'm also like, these swimsuits are pretty cute. There's also this whole Wirecutter piece I want to talk about, where she goes over her fashion favs. It's good! I clicked through so many links. I was like, "Do I want these $460 jeans? I don't know!"CorinneOh now I want to see them.VirginiaYet I'm also thinking: But you are supposed to be so raw and authentic, and this is your whole vibe, and you're showing us yourself in a swimsuit, because that's supposed to feel brave. First of all, that's problematic in and of itself. Can it stop being brave for fat women to wear swimsuits in public? I would love that to not be a heroic move anymore, but in Katie Sturino's world it is radical to do that, and she's doing it. And... she's selling us the swimsuit.CorinneWell I think there are a lot of ways in which Katie is a very acceptable spokesperson for this messaging. VirginiaSay more about that.CorinneWell, first of all, she has a background in PR. And I think, even at her biggest she's...VirginiaShe's glamorous.CorinneShe's pretty, and she has a certain style. She looks wealthy, I want to say.VirginiaWell, she sure is, because guess who officiated at their wedding? Former mayor of New York City, and friend of her family, Michael Bloomberg.CorinneOh, okay, yeah.VirginiaThis is from the New York Times: "In addition to their apartment in Chelsea, the couple splits their time between homes in Palm Beach, Florida and Maine."CorinneI mean, they are definitely in a different tax bracket than myself.VirginiaSo yes. Wealthy. CorinneBut there are also people who are wealthy and wear Blundstones and barn jackets, you know? She's wearing blazers and heels.VirginiaA lot of pantsuits.Corinne A lot of jewelry. And she's always on vacation somewhere tropical.VirginiaYeah, in an amazing caftan. She's leaning into glam.CorinneShe looks polished. VirginiaShe's very polished. It's very New York City. Like, Sex and the City vibes. She could hang out with Carrie Bradshaw and she would totally fit in with them at one of those fancy lunches. And that's cool. That's her aesthetic. It's also representative of a certain socioeconomic privilege level. This is something that I saw frequently in women's magazines, and something I talked about when Jenn Romolini came on the podcast: So many people who work in New York City media, at the high levels, come from privilege. It is a very nepo-baby-driven industry. Because these are jobs that you have to do tons of unpaid internships to get. And/or work for no money as an assistant. The only way you can do that is if you have family money supporting your ability to access these industries. So it's not surprising to me that she comes from a privileged background, because she comes from PR and fashion, and that's who works in those industries.And I still think it's interesting and somewhat transgressive to be a woman in a larger body in that world. It helps me understand why it felt radical to be a size 12 dressing like a celebrity, because a size 12 in that world is an extremely non-normative body, right? This is the tier of people who have access to all the personal trainers, who are playing tennis all summer. There is no space to be a fat person in that world. So even at a size 12, it feels like, oh my gosh, your body is so other. The scale is just different when you move in these different spaces. So I can critique the space. I can be like, okay, you're friends with billionaires, and that's a hard place to be in a larger body of any kind. Did you take a look at the Wirecutter piece where she was giving a lot of like clothing recs and it's like advice for dressing as a plus size person?CorinneYes, I did take a look at it. She does have some good recs in there. I will say very expensive recs. Her preferred white t-shirt is $100.VirginiaAnd you're going to get spaghetti sauce on it so fast. CorinneIt's a weird vibe. VirginiaOkay, so now let's talk about Oprah and Weight Watchers. In 2024 Katie posted a critique of the first ABC special Oprah did about GLP-1s. And she gave a fairly nuanced critique. There was stuff she liked, there was stuff she didn't like, but she specifically said, "They came so close, and I wish Weight Watchers had fully apologized for the harm they had caused by pushing all of us to diet and want to change our bodies for so long." She was like, oh, they almost got it, but they didn't. And then in response, CEO Sima Sistani got on Instagram and did apologize. She did this speech of, you're right, Katie. I was wrong. Like, we've been wrong. We've done harm, and kind of fully walked into it. So what was your take when that all happened? CorinneTo be honest, I wasn't paying too much attention. But I do think the best apology from Weight Watchers would be them closing down, you know? It's very weird to me to be like, "Yes, we realize we've done harm, and we're just going to keep doing it."VirginiaWell, and what they were really apologizing for was selling a plan that didn't work and now they're selling GLP-1s. So it's, "We have the thing that'll work now!" As opposed to apologizing for trying to make us all do this in the first place. CorinneEven Katie going on Instagram and calling out the CEO— something like that, would just never occur to me, because I don't know, I just would never expect someone at Weight Watchers to respond or care. And I also think Weight Watchers is a microcosm, you know? It's like, sure, Weight Watchers has done harm, and they're just part of a bigger system. And you're not acknowledging that there's a bigger system there.VirginiaWell and Katie did get a response. Now, on the one hand, Katie has many more Instagram followers than you, so there's that piece of it. But I think it's an open question how planned this was, and whether they had talked ahead of time that Katie would critique and that Sima Sistani would publish her apology. Because I mean number one, no Weight Watchers CEO can just casually hop on her Instastories and apologize without having run the plan by many lawyers to make sure that she wasn't going to tank the business. So that had to have been planned, to some extent. And then the next piece of this is later last year, Katie had her own interview with Oprah in a different special, this one sponsored by Weight Watchers. And then she went on to host a podcast for Weight Watchers. So at some point, Katie got paid by Weight Watchers. Whether it was not until she hosted the podcast, or whether she was paid to be on the special with Oprah, or whether she was in a sponsorship deal with them when she asked for the apology, we don't know. But at some point, she moved from activist to on the payroll of a diet company.CorinneWasn't her response like, "Well, they were going to pay someone, it might as well be me? Or like it might as well be a plus size person." VirginiaWhat she said in the Oprah interview is, "If we don't have this conversation, if we don't insert our voice into this conversation, someone else will. Someone else will make those decisions for us." That's her argument. She wants to be in the room where it happens. She wants to be representing plus size people to these companies and with these companies. But she's not doing it pro-bono. She's not Tigress Osborne, Executive Director of NAAFA, depending on fundraisers to pay for plane tickets to places. She's doing this as a multi-hyphenate with three homes who's now getting a paycheck from Weight Watchers.CorinneYeah, it's so complicated. Because on the one hand, I can see her point. If Weight Watchers is going to be giving money to someone, it's kind of good that they would be giving some of it to fat people. So on the one hand capitalism, we're all kind of forced to sell out in some way, and on the other hand, you don't love to see it. VirginiaYou don't love to see it.CorinneEspecially when that person has three homes. VirginiaIt's a moment where I think her experiences of marginalization as a fat person erased her ability to see her privilege as a wealthy, white person. If Weight Watchers is going to pay fat people, Katie Sturino is not the person I need them to pay! I am not the person I need them to pay. Those of us in a certain tax bracket, living at a certain privilege level, are not the ones who need cash reparations from Weight Watchers. It's lower income folks who have paid to be in those meetings for years and years, who took their daughters to those meetings, who this company preyed on because it was an "affordable" approach to weight loss. And took their money over and over again every time they regained the weight and came back.CorinneWell, this is all is reminding me of the book Dietland.VirginiaBy Sarai Walker, friend of the show, yes.CorinneWhere the the heiress of the diet company is using profits from the diet company to do a type of reparations, vigilante justice. VirginiaI don't think that that's what's happening here.And I want to look a little bit at what Katie's defense has been around all of this. She's not afraid to talk very directly to haters who criticize her about her body. So in the New York Times piece, she disclosed that she's taking a GLP-1 for her own weight loss, and she then shared in a video that this was a medical decision, that she didn't really care if she lost weight or not that it was doing it to manage her A1C whatever. Again, that's Katie's business. I have no opinion about that. But she's in a smaller body now—not down to a size 12, but a mid-sized body now—and she's still pushing herself as a face of this movement. And that is a little bit complicated. She's talked about how it doesn't matter what size she is, she gets flack all the time. Like, when she was a size 12, she was too small to be representing body positivity. As a 22 people said she was too big. She's always, always, always getting constant comments about her bodies. And you know, that is really hard to deal with. That is not welcome feedback.And it is tricky that she has made her body very much her brand, I don't know, I struggle with this. It sounds like I'm saying she's asking for it, and I'm not. But you're posting content in swimsuits all the time. You're showing us your rolls, and then you're saying we shouldn't talk about people's bodies. Bodies are the least interesting thing about us. But her body is very interesting to her. She's making it a center of her work.CorinneI mean, you're making some points. It's hard to land in one way or another here. I do think the cost to being a public figure in the way that she is, in some ways, is people harassing you. And I think that's horrible and too high a cost. I also think she's made some really strange decisions, like working with Weight Watchers and still wanting to defend body neutrality or whatever.VirginiaYeah, she prefers body neutrality to body positivity, we should say and that's fine. I'm not attached to either term, to be honest. CorinneI feel like I always end up more confused than than I started on these subjects.VirginiaWhere did you start? CorinneI think where I started was Katie Sturino neutrality. Like I just sort of felt like she's not my people or whatever, and then I do feel kind of bad for her getting all this criticism and and then also I just feel, mad that people have so much money. But what do we do? I don't know.VirginiaI think it's complicated by her decision to take the Weight Watchers money. I think if she was just taking GLP-1s, that's her own business. Her body changing is her own business, even though she makes content that really centers her body. I would be backing her, like, yeah, that's not for people to interrogate your body. It's still your body, it's not your business. And I think she's walking a really complicated line by deciding to then also monetize her weight loss, by hooking up with Weight Watchers. That feels different, because she's promoting Weight Watchers, which means she's selling weight loss to other people. She's suggesting that these GLP1s are a good option for other people. Maybe she hasn't directly said those words, but she has done the Oprah special. She's lent them her brand, which has a lot of credibility. Someone said to me, l"I go out of my way to buy Megababe, even though it costs a little more than comparable products, because I want to support Katie. I want to back her work." People invest in her because they believe in her mission. CorinneThat's true.VirginiaAnd now she has attached that mission to Weight Watchers, which is selling GLP1s and obviously selling weight loss. That's where it loses me a little for her to then be like, how dare people talk about my body? You're literally selling this new version of your body. You're showing it to us because you're marketing this thing. That's where it gets really murky. On the other hand, there's a video that I'll link to where she talks quite a lot about how the internal work we need to do on body acceptance has nothing to do with the scale, and she does seem to really want to make the point that she feels very detached from her own weight loss numbers. That's not why she's on it. And she makes the point that if you don't do your own internal work, you can lose tons of weight, and you would still be miserable with your body. The weight loss is not a solution for body image struggles. And I think that's valuable. And I think there are a lot of people who listen to her who need to hear that. So I think that's useful. And it then is confusing that she's like, "But also Weight Watchers is great now."CorinneOne through line in a lot of her content is that it does feel like sometimes the bigger picture is missing, like the intersectionality. I'm not a super close follower, so maybe I'm just missing it. But I feel like I'm not seeing her do a ton of advocacy for other fat people.VirginiaWell, she really stays in her lane, which is fashion. I don't hear her talking about healthcare access, don't hear her talking about workplace discrimination, housing discrimination. Definitely not how anti-fatness intersects with racism and other marginalization. I don't think that's a focus of hers. And in some ways, that's fine, and in some ways that shows, I think, that she's not here for a deep dive into the world of fat liberation. Okay, so our big Burnt Toast question that we ask in all these episodes: Is Katie Sturino a diet?CorinneYes?VirginiaShe is selling a diet...by working with Weight Watchers. CorinneAnd I think just by embodying a very narrow line of fatness.VirginiaShe is selling a specific image of acceptable fatness.CorinneWhat's your take?VirginiaI started this episode wanting to be able to say no, in part just because everybody expects me to say yes.CorinneI know I think I'm usually on the no side. VirginiaYeah, you're usually the no and I'm usually the yes. But I think the more we talk about it, I think I'm landing there as well. But I also think she's the embodiment of this larger issue, which is: So much activism happens through social media now. And social media is a business. It is where people are building brands and making money and that means that activism gets infused with business in these really messy ways. I think plus size fashion influencers as a category have really not done a great job with this, because we have seen this trajectory of using body positivity rhetoric, even fat liberation rhetoric, and centering fat joy, celebrating you look so great in all the clothes... and then forgetting all of the other work that goes along with that, and then if they manage to achieve body changes, very quickly changing their tune about how important all of this is. I don't think she's Rosey Beeme, who's like, "Forget I ever liked fat people." I don't think she's that at all, but I do think she has not done the work of intersectionality here. CorinneYeah. It kind of feels like a like microcosm of everything that's happening in the US right now. VirginiaFor sure, for sure.CorinneIt's hard to not just extrapolate out. VirginiaSo are we saying I should not order the $460 jeans?CorinneI mean, don't ask me on this stuff, because I'm always like I do want to know. I do want to know if they're good jeans. VirginiaI do want to know. I am curious!  CorinneThis would make a good Patreon post. VirginiaI don't know that they would fit me. I have to look at the size chart and figure out if it's like a Gap 35 or if it's like a designer brand 35.CorinneI feel like it depends on if they have stretch or not. I bet they do. Katie seems like someone who would be going for stretch jeans.VirginiaShe does also do all those underwear tests where she checks whether things rolls down. That's valuable content. CorinneShe is brave. She's doing the videos that personally I would not want to do.VirginiaYou don't see me on my in my underwear on the Internet. I mean, I am on WikiFeet, but that was not my choice. That's as scandalous as I get. All right. Well, that was a very interesting conversation. Listeners, we want to hear what you think. Where do you land on this one? Have you followed her work? Have you felt, had mixed feelings about the Weight Watchers of it all? Do you have a totally different take? You can tell us in the comments. ButterVirginiaOkay, my Butter, I gave you a little preview. You can tell because we're on Zoom together, and you can see a different background behind me. But I moved my desk to a different part of my–actually, not even a different part of my office. I moved it from being parallel with the wall to being kitty corner between two walls. And I'm so much more comfortable in my office! And I realized I had my desk too close to the wall and it was not size inclusive. I was always bumping up against the wall behind me, and what a dumb thing to do in one's home office where you have total control. I had just decided the desk needed to face a certain way. I don't know what made me think it was necessary. A lot of it is the pressure on having a good Zoom background? But I've decided unless I'm doing TV or something, I'm going to keep my desk in a more comfortable place. CorinneI think that's really reasonable. VirginiaAnd it just made me think: How many other small ways do we accept our homes or our cars or whatever not being comfortable for our bodies? Like this cost $0. I literally slid the desk over to make more room. Make more room for yourselves!CorinneTotally, it's so funny how hard that stuff is to notice sometimes.VirginiaI hadn't even realized that's why I was uncomfortable. I do also need a new desk chair. If people have desk chair recs, I want those in the comments as well. I really would like to know because I'm in a crappy West Elm ancient desk chair. It's like oddly off balance. It's not good for my lower back. But I want one that's not a million dollars and not ugly.CorinneGood luck with that. I'm also really admiring your Cape Cod collarless sweatshirt.VirginiaOh, my cut collar sweatshirt. It's really cute, right? It was too tight in the neck. It's pretty tight in the waist. I was debating maybe cutting that somehow too I haven't quite figured out. Like, if I cut off the band at the bottom and it's just sort of like, boxy, would that be cute? CorinneI think it would be cute. I think it'd be more cropped. VirginiaCorinne, what's your Butter?CorinneMy Butter is a Butter that has been Buttered before. It's Taskmaster. I know it has been mentioned by other burnt toast guests, but you know what it is, or?Virginia it's an app where people come and do things for you?CorinneNo, nope. That's TaskRabbit.VirginiaI was like, why are you recommending the gig economy? CorinneAnd I've actually had very mixed results with TaskRabbit. Not recommending that one. Someone blew up a light bulb on my ceiling. That's a story for another day. TaskMaster is a British TV show, there's a comedian host, and then there are like five comedian guests, and they get assigned psychotic tasks. Like, I don't know, like, open this paper bag without using your arms or some seemingly impossible task, and then you watch them do it, and they get ranked and get points. The first episode that I watched, I was laughing so hard, I was crying, peeing my pants, like my abs were sore. And it is just very easy to watch, like, you just laugh and it's funny.VirginiaI don't usually do reality TV with my kiddo for our show, yeah, but this does sound like a fun one to watch with her. CorinneYeah, I will say there's like, some mild--they're comedians, so there's some mild innuendo and stuff.VirginiaI mean, I think I'm going to write a whole essay about this, but I love watching inappropriate television with my children. I think it opens up many great conversations.CorinneGreat. Well, you should definitely watch it, though it's on YouTube, and I have been paying for seasons. But someone actually in the Burnt Toast chat today was saying that they watch it for free on YouTube. So now I'm confused. I really am enjoying Taskmaster.VirginiaWell, that's delightful, yeah, all right. Well, this was a great episode. Excited to hear what everyone thinks about. What furniture are you moving, what tasks are you completing, tell us in the comments. The Burnt Toast Podcast is produced and hosted by Virginia Sole-Smith (follow me on Instagram) and Corinne Fay, who runs @SellTradePlus, and Big Undies!The Burnt Toast logo is by Deanna Lowe.Our theme music is by Farideh.Tommy Harron is our audio engineer.Thanks for listening and for supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!

Welcome to Episode 244! In years past, the cooler temps and changing leaves were indicators that the year was winding down. This year, we also have THE PENGUIN BOOK OF GHOST STORIES: From Elizabeth Gaskell to Ambrose Bierce as a gauge. After this episode, we have only three more stories left to read – can you believe it? (We can guess the mixed responses to this question! haha.) We both enjoyed “The Moonlit Road” by Ambrose Bierce, which we discuss in this episode. Other books we've read and talk about include A HOUSE WITH GOOD BONES by T. Kingfisher, 107 DAYS by Kamala Harris, SUNNY SIDE UP by Katie Sturino, MARGARET FULLER: Collected Writings edited by Brigitte Bailey, Leslie Eckel, and Megan Marshall, and DEATH AT THE WHITE HART by Chris Chibnall. In Biblio Adventures, Emily recaps some of the bookish highlights from her vacation on Cape Cod, including BOOKSTORES (Provincetown Bookshop, Tim's Used Books, and Titcomb's Bookshop), LIBRARIES (Provincetown Public Library, the Sturgis Library, Eldridge Public Library and the South Chatham Library), and a bunch of LITTLE FREE LIBRARIES, including a charming mosaic #LFL. Chris spent a day working in the Barnard College Archives and then met a friend for a delicious dinner at Osteria Accademia, a book-lined restaurant on the Upper West Side. Afterwards, she headed to Grand Central to catch a train home to Connecticut and experienced the building's power outage, which made her worry about Dementors and rats. Last but not least, we are thrilled to welcome back OUR MYSTERY MAN, John Valeri for his 14th guest appearance. John joined us to discuss two ghost stories that are on our Ghost Stories Bingo card: “The Mask of the Red Death” by Edgar Allan Poe and “The Canterville Ghost” by Oscar Wilde. He also drops a few reading recommendations because it wouldn't be a proper visit from Our Mystery Man without them. Happy Listening and Happy Reading! https://www.bookcougars.com/blog-1/2025/episode244

In this bonus episode, Weight For It host, Ronald Young Jr. joins the hosts of Text Me Back (Lindy West and Meagan Hatcher-Mays) for a discussion about the Netflix docuseries Fit For TV: The Reality of the Biggest Loser.   It certainly was a docuseries...yikesSupport Text me Back  on Patreon and check out their YouTube channel as wellJoin us in Boston for our live conversation with Katie Sturino of Mega Babe on October 30th.  Tickets available now!Weight For It will return soon...

On today's episode, cohosts Yasmin Gagne and Josh Christensen discuss the latest news in the world of business and innovation. Topics include this past quarter's earnings, the latest on tariffs, and Figma's IPO.   Next, Josh and Yaz speak to Fast Company senior editor Max Ufberg about art heists, what the world of art forgeries looks like, and how technology has helped to accelerate art crime over the years.  Finally, Yaz chats with Evvy cofounder and CEO Priyanka Jain and Megababe founder Katie Sturino. They sat down at our recent MIC Summit in New York City to discuss how they convince stakeholders and investors to buy into their ideas, and how they approach their customers when it comes to crafting the story behind launching a new product.For more of the latest business and innovation news, go to https://www.fastcompany.com/newsFor the latest news in business tech, go tohttps://www.fastcompany.com/technology

Author and body-acceptance advocate Katie Sturino joins Ronald Young Jr., host of the podcast Weight For It, to answer listener questions about body image.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Lindsay Pinchuk is re-launching her newsletter, The FoundHer Files on Substack! No fluff. No gatekeeping. Just what works...because we're better together. Make sure you subscribe for simple business and marketign tips designed for actual growth. SUBSCRIBE HERE.We're rerunning this episode as Katie Sturino's debut novel, "Sunny Side Up". hits bookshelves adn the best-sellers list nationwide. Host, Lindsay Pinchuk shares that this is one of her favorite episodes of the podcast, and as she's currently on vacation, she chose to share this in celebration of Katie's big news. In this episode, Katie opens up about the transition from working in public relations to becoming an entrepreneur, taking Megababe from her parents' garage to major retailers like Walmart. She talks about the importance of authenticity, community, and staying true to her mission of body positivity and empowering people of all shapes and sizes. Katie also shares insights into her strategic marketing efforts and how her viral series, #SupersizeTheLook, has strengthened her influence in the body acceptance movement.As Katie shares practical advice for founders, she also stresses the value of hiring the right team and testing your ideas before going all in. What does it really take to push through when things don't happen overnight? Katie's story reminds us that persistence and finding the right audience are key. Connect with Katie Sturino:https://www.tiktok.com/@katiesturino?lang=enhttp://www.instagram.com/katiesturinohttp://www.instagram.com/megababehttps://lindsaypinchuk.myflodesk.com/foundherfridaysSUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER, The FoundHer Files on Substack and check out today's edition on repurposing your content. Make sure you follow Dear FoundHer... on InstagramPodcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today on the show, we're focusing on the topic of style with author, body-acceptance advocate, and founder of Megababe Katie Sturino. Sturino began her career in fashion and built her own PR agency when she was just 25 years old. While rising to the top in her field behind the scenes, she also began gaining traction as a creator herself, making meaningful change in the fashion industry with her social media series “Make My Size” and “Supersize the Look.” In 2017, Sturino launched her bodycare brand, Megababe, which is now sold worldwide in retailers including Walmart, Target, and Ulta. On top of everything, this June, she released her debut novel, Sunny Side Up. Today on the show, she reflects on how the fashion industry has changed over the years in regard to size inclusivity, shares her favorite brands that make summer staples in plus sizes, and advises on how to battle the noise of SkinnyTok.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week, we're chatting with Katie Sturino—entrepreneur, author, body acceptance queen, and founder of Megababe (aka the brand saving our thighs this summer!). Katie has built a community by speaking up for size inclusivity and empowering women of all sizes to feel confident and celebrate their style. Now, she's bringing her signature honesty and humor to the page with her debut novel Sunny Side Up—a story that helps women improve the relationship they have with their bodies. Sunny Side Up is available now at celadonbooks.com.Want our podcasts sent straight to your phone? Text us the word "Podcast" to +1 (917) 540-8715 and we'll text you the new episodes when they're released!Tune in for new Cat & Nat Unfiltered episodes every Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday!Follow @catandnatunfiltered on Instagram: https://instagram.com/catandnatunfilteredOur new book "Mom Secrets" is now available! Head to www.catandnat.ca/book to grab your autographed copy! Come see us LIVE on tour!! To see a full list of cities and dates, go to https://catandnattour.com.Are you a parent that is struggling understanding the online world, setting healthy screen-time limits, or navigating harmful online content? Purchase screen sense for $49.99 & unlock Cat & Nat's ultimate guide to parenting in the digital age. Go to https://www.thecommonparent.com/guideFollow our parenting platform - The Common Parent - over on Instagram: https://instagram.com/thecommonparentMake sure you subscribe to our YouTube channel: https://bitly.com/catnatyoutubeCheck out our Amazon Lives here: https://bitly.com/catnatamazonliveOrder TAYLIVI here: https://taylivi.comGet personalized videos from us on Cameo: https://cameo.com/catandnatCome hang with us over on https://instagram.com/catandnat all day long.And follow us on https://tiktok.com/@catandnatofficial! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's time for July Three Things! Tune in for a game, fantasy dinner parties, writing process dives, best books of the year (so far), Materialists thoughts, and more!    Becca's Things Materialists Hallmark Movie Game Dream Summer Dinner Party    Olivia's Things Materialists Favorite Reads in 2025 so far (Becca's includes One Golden Summer by Carley Fortune, Broken Country by Clare Leslie Hall, Heart the Lover by Lily King. Olivia's includes Wild Dark Shore by Charlotte McConaghy, Notes on Your Sudden Disappearance by Allison Espach)  Writing Process Evolutions   Obsessions Becca - Old Navy tank tops Olivia - Notes on Your Sudden Disappearance by Allison Espach   What we read this week Becca - These Summer Storms by Sarah MacLean (out 7/8); Fun For the Whole Family by Jennifer E. Smith Olivia - The Bombshell by Darrow Farr, Notes on Your Sudden Disappearance by Allison Espach, It's a Love Story by Annabel Monaghan, Dear Writer by Maggie Smith   This Month's Book Club Pick - Atmosphere by Taylor Jenkins Reid (have thoughts about this book you want to share? Call in at 843-405-3157 or email us a voice memo at badonpaperpodcast@gmail.com)   Sponsors Sunny Side Up - Grab your copy of Sunny Side Up by Katie Sturino wherever books are sold. Caraway - take 10% off your next purchase at Carawayhome.com/BOP or use code BOP at checkout.   Join our Facebook group for amazing book recs & more!  Buy our Merch! Join our Geneva! Order Olivia's Book, Such a Bad Influence! Subscribe to Olivia's Newsletter! Order Becca's Book, The Christmas Orphans Club! Subscribe to Becca's Newsletter!  Follow us on Instagram @badonpaperpodcast. Follow Olivia on Instagram @oliviamuenter and Becca @beccamfreeman.    

Maria Shriver says ‘Yes' to life as she closes out a stellar week of co-hosting. The duo is joined by actress and playwright Liza Colón-Zayas who dishes on her Emmy Award winning role in Hulu's ‘The Bear.' Also, author and body acceptance advocate Katie Sturino puts together summer looks inspired by her latest beach read ‘Sunny Side Up.' Plus, Dr. Annie Fenn shares the best bites for bolstering brain health and fending off cognitive decline from her new cookbook ‘The Brain Health Kitchen.” 

Description: Katie Sturino is one of those people who makes you feel instantly braver just by being in the room. With her bold fashion choices, unfiltered honesty, and joyful presence online, the powerhouse founder of Megababe, style influencer, and unapologetic voice for body confidence has inspired so many of us to rethink how we see our bodies and ourselves. Her first book Body Talk, part memoir, part manifesto, focused on the all too important topic of learning to love the skin you're in. Now, she's back—and this time, she's putting her hand to fiction! Of course, we wanted to talk to this multi-hyphenate about what it's like flexing yet another new muscle. Katie and Jen talk about the inspiration behind Sunny Side Up, a book Jennifer Weiner has called a modern-day Bridget Jones' Diary (without the toxic self-loathing) and Katie shares what the writing process was like, an experience Katie  equated to being put through a pasta machine. She and Jen also reminisce about when they first met almost a year ago—backstage at an Oprah special and the grueling decisions they grabbed with (as so many women do for such an event)—what to wear.  Thought-provoking Quotes: “I lead with solution. That is the thing that's consistent for me because I love business. I love talking to people about the businesses they wanna start, the businesses that they're running. I like solving problems.” – Katie Sturino “We love turning on a woman online. We love it—everything from Meghan Markle dancing in birthing room and Blake Lively. We just love turning on women. It's like sport.” Katie Sturino “I don't have the MBA. I feel like most businesses that are dreamed up are done in a Harvard think tank, and I don't have that. So that's another thing that I feel insecure about, because whenever I'm up on panels or in a room full of similar founders, their stories have a really specific ladder and I'm like in my parents' garage, you know, it's different.” – Katie Sturino “Writing this book was the hardest thing I have ever done. This was awful. I'm gonna say that out loud so that if anyone out there is like, I'm gonna write a book one day—pop that bubble! Pop that bubble! It's not you in a cozy room with a typewriter and a mug. It's like open eyeball surgery while you're awake. It's really hard.” – Katie Sturino Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Making the Shift: A new way to think about weight - https://www.weightwatchers.com/makingtheshift/ Megababe - https://megababebeauty.com/ The Deodorant Jen swears by - https://megababebeauty.com/collections/pits Sunny Side Up: A Novel by Katie Sturino - https://amzn.to/3SLK1qd Tressie McMillan Cottom - https://tressiemc.com/ Using Storytelling to Address Complex Social Issues: Dr. Tressie McMillan Cottom - https://jenhatmaker.com/podcasts/series-64/using-storytelling-to-address-complex-social-issues-dr-tressie-mcmillan-cottom/ #SupersizeTheLook - https://www.instagram.com/explore/search/keyword/?q=%23supersizethelook Kitty & Vibe: Katie Sturino Swimsuit Collection - https://www.kittyandvibe.com/collections/sunny-side-up Guest's Links: Website - https://megababebeauty.com/pages/about Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/katiesturino/ Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmlgRDiOCywtaamAc5q-7VQ TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@katiesturino Substack - https://katiesturino.substack.com/p/katie-sturino-writer Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/boob-sweat-with-katie-sturino/id1483683205 Connect with Jen!Jen's Website - https://jenhatmaker.com/ Jen's Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmakerJen's Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/ Jen's Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmakerJen's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmaker The For the Love Podcast is presented by Audacy.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We're excited to dive into our June Book Club Pick: June Book Club Pick - All the Other Mothers Hate Me by Sarah Harman. We had a great time reading this hilarious and Scaredy Cat approved mystery, and can't wait to hear what you think!    Watch the full interview with Sarah Harman Olivia mentioned here.   Obsessions Becca - Milk Duds Olivia - Vitality Leggings/Shorts (Bonus: Olivia's High is Yoga With Adrienne's Yoga for Writers Video)   This Month's Book Club Pick - Atmosphere by Taylor Jenkins Reid (have thoughts about this book you want to share? Call in at 843-405-3157 or email us a voice memo at badonpaperpodcast@gmail.com)   Sponsors Wayfair - Head to wayfair.com right now to shop a huge outdoor selection. Sunny Side Up - Grab your copy of Sunny Side Up by Katie Sturino wherever books are sold. Quince - Go to Quince.com/bop for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.   Join our Facebook group for amazing book recs & more!  Buy our Merch! Join our Geneva! Order Olivia's Book, Such a Bad Influence! Subscribe to Olivia's Newsletter! Order Becca's Book, The Christmas Orphans Club! Subscribe to Becca's Newsletter!  Follow us on Instagram @badonpaperpodcast. Follow Olivia on Instagram @oliviamuenter and Becca @beccamfreeman.  

About 128 million Americans from Louisiana to Maine are still under heat advisories after dozens of record high temperatures were set Tuesday in parts of the U.S. CBS News' Rob Marciano reports. Over the last three years, retail electricity prices have gone up faster than the rate of inflation, and new research from Texas A&M shows climate change is making it more expensive to cool homes. CBS News' David Schechter reports on the impact. A report from the National Transportation Safety Board found issues with Boeing's production process, training, documentation and safety culture, as well as the FAA's oversight in a review following a midair door panel blow out of an Alaska Airlines plane. Everyone on the packed plane survived. Now, the NTSB is making nearly a dozen recommendations to Boeing and the FAA. The defense in Sean "Diddy" Combs' federal sex trafficking trial rested its case in less than 30 minutes as the music mogul did not testify nor did the defense call any witnesses. Over the course of six weeks, the prosecution called 34 witnesses to the stand. Combs has pleaded not guilty. Katie Sturino, known for her viral body positivity posts and celebrity fashion recreations, joins "CBS Mornings" to discuss her debut novel "Sunny Side Up" and how it reflects her mission to empower women of all sizes. Writer and comedian Josh Gondelman joins "CBS Mornings" to talk about his new stand-up special "Positive Reinforcement," where he jokes about aging, obscure desserts, and why kindness is still funny. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Katie Sturino is the founder of Megababe, the innovative beauty brand known for nontoxic, cult-favorite products like Thigh Rescue and Bust Dust. She's also a body-acceptance advocate with a highly engaged community of close to one million supporters across platforms. Sturino joined Hillary Kerr on Second Life back in 2020 to talk about her winding career path from PR to social media to beauty (listen to her first episode here), but we had to have her back on to discuss her most recent pivot to fiction writing. In this episode, Sturino shares why she decided to write her debut novel, Sunny Side Up, and gets refreshingly candid about the challenges of continuing to transform your career when everyone has feedback. She opens up about what it's like to work with a ghostwriter and where she hopes to take this creative endeavor moving forward. Of course, she also catches us up on the last five years of bootstrapped growth for Megababe and shares what's on the horizon for the business.Buy Sturino's new book, Sunny Side Up, here! (It's Hillary Kerr approved.)See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Description: Jen first met Tressie McMillan Cottom the way most normal people meet – under the bright lights on the set of an Oprah special, invited by Ms. Winfrey to speak on a panel, along with other influential voices including Rebel Wilson, Amber Riley, Katie Sturino, Jamie Kern Lima, Busy Philipps and others to talk about diet culture, the harmful narratives we have surrounding our weight and our bodies, and how we can begin reframing the conversation away from one centered in shame to one focused on body acceptance. The entire studio was gobsmacked by Tressie which is fitting given that she is a prominent cultural commentator and Professor at UNC Chapel Hill. Her work explores the loaded and nuanced ideas like racial capitalism, beauty standards, the exploitation of higher education systems, but in a way that we ordinary Joe's can understand. We knew immediately that she was destined to be a guest on our show and today is the day. Segments: Bless & Release: The News Cycle *** Thought-provoking Quotes: I think every life has a trauma so there's nothing really special about mine. But whatever your trauma is, you are usually faced with a decision, which is, do I want to be who I was before this or am I going to be something different? – Tressie McMillan Cottom I love really hard questions. I am my happiest, most connected, most joyful, when I am trying to disentangle a really hard social problem that I think everybody has got wrong. I'm really attracted to those things where our beliefs are totally counter-intuitive, where our gut is telling us something is there but the picture is fuzzy, and I think I'm attracted to that because my path was so abnormal and so unique and I know that I wouldn't have existed if people had just gone along with what was supposed to be. – Tressie McMillan Cottom I thought my grandmothers sounded as intelligent as my professors and so I really struggled with the idea that there was something counterfeit or illegitimate about them and their stories and the things that I had learned from them. - Tressie McMillan Cottom History is weirdly comforting when we can look at our worst impulses and know this isn't the first time we've faced this level of chaos and inequality and systemic injustice. It's just our generation's turn. – Jen Hatmaker Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Leave us a voicemail- https://jenhatmaker.com/podcast/ Click the “Send Voicemail” tab on the right side of the page Pantsuit Politics - https://www.pantsuitpoliticsshow.com/ Allison Gill - https://allisongill.com/ The Daily Beans | News with Swearing - https://www.dailybeanspod.com/ Lower Ed: The Troubling Rise of For-Profit Colleges in the New Economy by Tressie McMillan Cottom - https://amzn.to/4hv6dPF Thick: And Other Essays by Tressie McMillan Cottom - https://amzn.to/3Co8gWX Dr. Tressie McMillan Cottom's New York Times newsletter - https://www.nytimes.com/by/tressie-mcmillan-cottom Tressie's MacArthur Fellowship - https://www.macfound.org/fellows/class-of-2020/tressie-mcmillan-cottom Oprah + Weight Watchers: Making the Shift special - https://www.weightwatchers.com/makingtheshift/?srsltid=AfmBOortVultNvf8Oy7KWezSW1X6uVsvMm9ziScOvAzxUg3XsWQ_2H44 Guest's Links: Dr. Cottom's website - https://tressiemc.com/ Dr. Cottom's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/tressiemcphd/ Dr. Cottom's Twitter - https://x.com/tressiemcphd Dr. Cottom's Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/tressiemcmillancottom/ Dr. Cottom's podcast - https://tressiemc.com/podcast/  Connect with Jen! Jen's website - https://jenhatmaker.com/ Jen's Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmaker Jen's Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/ Jen's Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmaker Jen's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmaker The For the Love Podcast is presented by Audacy.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It's been a while since our last Three Things episode! We can't wait to discuss what's been on our minds lately, from pop culture to books to productivity.    Olivia's Things Best of 2024 Fave TV Shows - The Diplomat, Nobody Wants This Best Song - The Bolter by Taylor Swift, Right Back to It by Waxahatchee Best Trip - Maine, Portland and Chicago Best Days - Maine and SABI release day Best Purchase - OnCloud Sneakers, Beaded Necklaces, Kindle, and Cozy Earth Bath Towels. Jenna Bush Hager's new imprint Microhabits   Becca's Things 2025 Pop Culture Predictions Reading tracker in notion (get it here) The ‘Let Them' Theory   Obsessions Becca - Day of the Jackal on Peacock   What we read this week Olivia - The Most by Jessica Anthony, Godshot by Chelsea Bieker, Sea Wife by Amity Gaige, City of Night Birds by Juhea Kim, Rainbow Black by Maggie Thrash, Nightbitch by Rachel Yoder Becca - Early Thirties by Josh Duboff, Sunny Side Up by Katie Sturino   January's Book Club Pick - Stolen Focus by Johann Hari (have thoughts about this book you want to share? Call in at 843-405-3157 or email us a voice memo at badonpaperpodcast@gmail.com)   Sponsors Quince - Go to Quince.com/bop for 365-day returns and free shipping on your order! Wayfair - Give your home the refresh it needs at Wayfair.com   Join our Facebook group for amazing book recs & more!  Buy our Merch! Join our Geneva! Order Olivia's Book, Such a Bad Influence! Subscribe to Olivia's Newsletter! Order Becca's Book, The Christmas Orphans Club! Subscribe to Becca's Newsletter!  Follow us on Instagram @badonpaperpodcast. Follow Olivia on Instagram @oliviamuenter and Becca @beccamfreeman.  

Katie Sturino is a body positivity advocate, founder of Megababe, and the author of “Body Talk”. You love her holy grail anti-chafing products, listen to hear more about how she was almost a fashion buyer and a publicist!Produced by Dear MediaThis episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week we have something special for our listeners- we're introducing you to a new show called The Body Collective, a new podcast by Weight Watchers and Lemonada Media. The Body Collective is here to change the conversation about weight — to take everything we've learned about shame, unlearn it, and transform it into a source of power. Join hosts Katie Sturino, Hunter McGrady, Ashley Longshore, and Tracy Moore for a series of hilarious and informative conversations about everything from weight-loss medications to dating while plus-sized.  Here's a sneak peek of episode one of The Body Collective, where they're tackling shame head on! The hosts bring us back to their childhoods and discuss some of their earliest body memories. Plus, we hear what they've had to unlearn to come into their own as women today. The Body Collective – listen to the full episode wherever you get your podcasts or head to https://lemonada.lnk.to/TheBodyCollectivefd.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week we have something special for our listeners- we're introducing you to a new show called The Body Collective, a new podcast by Weight Watchers and Lemonada Media. The Body Collective is here to change the conversation about weight — to take everything we've learned about shame, unlearn it, and transform it into a source of power. Join hosts Katie Sturino, Hunter McGrady, Ashley Longshore, and Tracy Moore for a series of hilarious and informative conversations about everything from weight-loss medications to dating while plus-sized. Here's a sneak peek of episode one of The Body Collective, where they're tackling shame head on! The hosts bring us back to their childhoods and discuss some of their earliest body memories. Plus, we hear what they've had to unlearn to come into their own as women today. The Body Collective – listen to the full episode wherever you get your podcasts or head to https://lemonada.lnk.to/TheBodyCollectivefd.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week we have something special for our listeners- we're introducing you to a new show called The Body Collective, a new podcast by Weight Watchers and Lemonada Media. The Body Collective is here to change the conversation about weight — to take everything we've learned about shame, unlearn it, and transform it into a source of power. Join hosts Katie Sturino, Hunter McGrady, Ashley Longshore, and Tracy Moore for a series of hilarious and informative conversations about everything from weight-loss medications to dating while plus-sized. Here's a sneak peek of episode one of The Body Collective, where they're tackling shame head on! The hosts bring us back to their childhoods and discuss some of their earliest body memories. Plus, we hear what they've had to unlearn to come into their own as women today. The Body Collective – listen to the full episode wherever you get your podcasts or head to https://lemonada.lnk.to/TheBodyCollectivefd.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week we have something special for our listeners- we're introducing you to a new show called The Body Collective, a new podcast by Weight Watchers and Lemonada Media. The Body Collective is here to change the conversation about weight — to take everything we've learned about shame, unlearn it, and transform it into a source of power. Join hosts Katie Sturino, Hunter McGrady, Ashley Longshore, and Tracy Moore for a series of hilarious and informative conversations about everything from weight-loss medications to dating while plus-sized.  Here's a sneak peek of episode one of The Body Collective, where they're tackling shame head on! The hosts bring us back to their childhoods and discuss some of their earliest body memories. Plus, we hear what they've had to unlearn to come into their own as women today. The Body Collective – listen to the full episode wherever you get your podcasts or head to https://lemonada.lnk.to/TheBodyCollectivefd.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week we have something special for our listeners- we're introducing you to a new show called The Body Collective, a new podcast by Weight Watchers and Lemonada Media. The Body Collective is here to change the conversation about weight — to take everything we've learned about shame, unlearn it, and transform it into a source of power. Join hosts Katie Sturino, Hunter McGrady, Ashley Longshore, and Tracy Moore for a series of hilarious and informative conversations about everything from weight-loss medications to dating while plus-sized. Here's a sneak peek of episode one of The Body Collective, where they're tackling shame head on! The hosts bring us back to their childhoods and discuss some of their earliest body memories. Plus, we hear what they've had to unlearn to come into their own as women today. The Body Collective – listen to the full episode wherever you get your podcasts or head to https://lemonada.lnk.to/TheBodyCollectivefd.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week we have something special for our listeners- we're introducing you to a new show called The Body Collective, a new podcast by Weight Watchers and Lemonada Media. The Body Collective is here to change the conversation about weight — to take everything we've learned about shame, unlearn it, and transform it into a source of power. Join hosts Katie Sturino, Hunter McGrady, Ashley Longshore, and Tracy Moore for a series of hilarious and informative conversations about everything from weight-loss medications to dating while plus-sized.  Here's a sneak peek of episode one of The Body Collective, where they're tackling shame head on! The hosts bring us back to their childhoods and discuss some of their earliest body memories. Plus, we hear what they've had to unlearn to come into their own as women today. The Body Collective – listen to the full episode wherever you get your podcasts or head to https://lemonada.lnk.to/TheBodyCollectivefd.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week we have something special for our listeners- we're introducing you to a new show called The Body Collective, a new podcast by Weight Watchers and Lemonada Media. The Body Collective is here to change the conversation about weight — to take everything we've learned about shame, unlearn it, and transform it into a source of power. Join hosts Katie Sturino, Hunter McGrady, Ashley Longshore, and Tracy Moore for a series of hilarious and informative conversations about everything from weight-loss medications to dating while plus-sized.  Here's a sneak peek of episode one of The Body Collective, where they're tackling shame head on! The hosts bring us back to their childhoods and discuss some of their earliest body memories. Plus, we hear what they've had to unlearn to come into their own as women today. The Body Collective – listen to the full episode wherever you get your podcasts or head to https://lemonada.lnk.to/TheBodyCollectivefd.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week we have something special for our listeners- we're introducing you to a new show called The Body Collective, a new podcast by Weight Watchers and Lemonada Media. The Body Collective is here to change the conversation about weight — to take everything we've learned about shame, unlearn it, and transform it into a source of power. Join hosts Katie Sturino, Hunter McGrady, Ashley Longshore, and Tracy Moore for a series of hilarious and informative conversations about everything from weight-loss medications to dating while plus-sized. Here's a sneak peek of episode one of The Body Collective, where they're tackling shame head on! The hosts bring us back to their childhoods and discuss some of their earliest body memories. Plus, we hear what they've had to unlearn to come into their own as women today. The Body Collective – listen to the full episode wherever you get your podcasts or head to https://lemonada.lnk.to/TheBodyCollectivefd.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

“It's cute to come in and bring a new brand, and that's great—finding newness and all. But the reality is you're competing with billion-dollar corporations, out of your parents' garage, you know?” Katie Sturino recalls as she reflects on the early days of launching Megababe. As a body-positive influencer and CEO, Katie's passion to solve everyday body concerns like chafing and sweat led her to make products that have truly resonated with a wide audience.In this episode, Katie opens up about the transition from working in public relations to becoming an entrepreneur, taking Megababe from her parents' garage to major retailers like Walmart. She talks about the importance of authenticity, community, and staying true to her mission of body positivity and empowering people of all shapes and sizes. Katie also shares insights into her strategic marketing efforts and how her viral series, #SupersizeTheLook, has strengthened her influence in the body acceptance movement.As Katie shares practical advice for founders, she also stresses the value of hiring the right team and testing your ideas before going all in. What does it really take to push through when things don't happen overnight? Katie's story reminds us that persistence and finding the right audience are key. Quotes“I knew this was something people needed. I knew this product was going to do well, but no one else really did. I had to stick to my guns and follow my gut, even when people, including family members, were saying, ‘I don't really see this as something people need.'” (11:17 | Katie Sturino) “It's cute to come in and bring a new brand, and that's great—finding newness and all. But the reality is you're competing with billion-dollar corporations, out of your parents' garage, you know?” (15:28 | Katie Sturino) “Our brand loyalists understand that we truly care, that we're real people behind the brand, and that we listen to customer feedback.” (21:14 | Katie Sturino)“It's hard to engage in some of those really straightforward ways of marketing because I'm not going to win against a big brand like that. So we have to get creative.” (27:25 | Katie Sturino)“Don't quit your day job until you have proof of concept. I think oftentimes people think they've got to blow up their life, sit at their computer alone, and be like, ‘Logo: step one.' Launching without a really differentiated point of view in today's market is undoable.” (40:30 | Katie Sturino)Connect with Katie Sturino:https://www.tiktok.com/@katiesturino?lang=enhttp://www.instagram.com/katiesturinohttp://www.instagram.com/megababehttps://lindsaypinchuk.myflodesk.com/foundherfridaysSubscribe to the Dear FoundHer... newsletter: https://lindsaypinchuk.myflodesk.com/foundherfridaysDon't forget to follow Lindsay on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lindsaypinchukPodcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

For our second episode of our "Summer of Self Love" series, the girls welcome their second guest: Katie Sturino! A listener favorite, and co creator of Megababe (AKA their favorite products!) Katie discusses where she believes the body positivity movement has faltered, the girls explore when and why these shifts occured, and they delve into ways to reclaim its original spirit. Katie also offers advice on ways to embrace your true self, from dressing how you want to setting boundaries and pursuing the things that make you truly happy. 

My guest this week is the perfect woman to listen to if you're already getting stressed at the thought of wearing a bikini this summer.Katie Sturino is a body acceptance advocate, founder of the amazing brand Megababe (they do the best anti-chafe stick in the business) and author of the brilliant book "Body Talk".During the episode we talk about the moment that Katie realised that it wasn't just her who was unhappy about her body but also a lot of the women who had the bodies that she dreamt. In short, women had been taught to feel unfulfilled with their bodies and THAT was the problem. Cue a shift in mentality and the beginning of Katie's journey as a body acceptance ambassador who has been so influential that Oprah invited her on her show to relay her message to the nation.Katie also talks about how to stop people commenting on your weight, how to feel good about yourself and we also talk about how she has made the most amazing business (and the ups and downs of that).Katie is funny, outspoken, irreverent and will make you feel good about yourself. I adore her and am so excited about this episode.

Along with being the founder of 7-year-old Megababe, Katie Sturino is an influencer (803,000 followers on Instagram, 25,000 on TikTok), a body positivity advocate and the author of the book "Body Talk," published in 2021. Megababe is best known for its first product: Thigh Rescue, an anti-chafe stick of which over 1 million units have sold. In addition to being sold at Target, Ulta, Goop, Anthropologie and Nordstrom, among other retailers, the brand launched at Walmart in early March. "Megababe is still self-funded; we have never taken $1 of fundraising," Sturino said on this week's episode of the Glossy Beauty Podcast. "It's a different type of approach than other brands that launched at the same time. Most people will take funding and grow really big." Also on the podcast, Sturino discusses her start in content creation, Megababe's expansion to Walmart and new categories, the brand's first big marketing investments, and her response to the current heightened fixation on weight. Get more from Glossy with the daily newsletter, sent out each weekday morning. Visit glossy.co/newsletters to sign up.

Welcome to this special edition of Disruptive CEO Nation, where we celebrate International Women's Day by honoring the trailblazing female founders and executives shaking up the business world. In today's episode, we are spotlighting the achievements and challenges facing women in entrepreneurship and leadership. Here's a brief overview of what we discussed: - Highlighting Female Founders: We pay homage to Katie Sturino, founder of Megababe, whose innovative products tackle everyday issues for women, provide a shout-out to other female founders who are leading the way, and encourage listeners to nominate outstanding female founders for future podcast features. - Understanding International Women's Day: Delving into the history and significance of International Women's Day and tracing its origins from the women's rights movements of the 19th century to its current theme of "Invest in women: Accelerate progress." - Women in Government and Business: Exploring the importance of representation in government and business, noting milestones in women's political participation and the ongoing challenges they face in achieving gender parity. - Gender Disparities in Business Leadership: Discussing the gender gap in corporate leadership, including statistics on women in the workforce versus women in senior leadership positions, and highlighting the importance of gender diversity for business performance. As we celebrate the achievements of women in business, let's also recognize the work that still needs to be done to achieve true gender equality in the entrepreneurial landscape. Connect with Allison: Feedspot has named Disruptive CEO Nation as one of the Top 25 CEO Podcasts on the web and it is ranked the number 10 CEO podcast to listen to in 2024! https://podcasts.feedspot.com/ceo_podcasts/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/allisonsummerschicago/ Website: https://www.disruptiveceonation.com/ Twitter: @DisruptiveCEO #digitalmarketing #branding #socialgood #Bcorp #CEO #startup #startupstory #founder #business #businesspodcast #podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After a long journey of trying to figure out why the plus-size fashion industry has so many challenges and what goes wrong with plus-size launches, Katie Sturino is ready to discover the future of plus-size fashion.  Katie speaks with Gianluca Russo, The author of The Power of Plus: Inside Fashion's Size-Inclusivity Revolution, and Lucy Aylen, founder of Never Fully Dressed.  Special thanks to Gianluca and Lucy for speaking with us, and thanks to our listeners for all of your amazing feedback on this series.  — Use code KATIE20 for 20% off both online and in store with Never Fully Dressed at neverfullydressed.com or at 243 Elizabeth St. in NYC You can follow Katie on Instagram at @katiesturino and @megabababe Have any questions or comments? Email us at boobsweatproductions@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 201-701-1575. — This podcast was produced by Wonder Wheel Media and Madison Higley

This week we got to chat with multi-talented Katie Sturino, author of Body Talk and founder of MegaBabe Beauty, about finding freedom from body shame and moving into body acceptance to empower herself and millions of women. We have a joyful conversation about 7-11 in Japan, weight loss advertising, finding the freedom to love yourself regardless of size, working on the inner narrative to reduce the shame monster and so much more. It was a delight to cover all the topics with Katie; we know you will too. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Discover how honesty and imperfection can make your brand more relatable, how fostering a two-way conversation can deeply engage your clients, donors, and fans, and an inspiring vision can elevate the know-like-trust factor. Whether you're a brand, an entrepreneur, or an organization, this episode will guide you in crafting messages that resonate and forge meaningful connections. This episode promises to transform your understanding of relatability, providing insights drawn from successful thought leaders like Sara Blakely, the founder of Spanx, and Katie Sturino, founder of Mega Babe. Marketing messages and fundraising efforts should create meaningful relationships with your audience, not merely ask for donations or support. We delve into the power of honesty, vulnerability, and the importance of two-way conversations. We discuss how these elements build stronger relationships with your followers and help keep your mission at the forefront. Learn how to go micro in your mission messaging, breaking down bigger aspirations into manageable tasks and connecting with your audience on a more personal level.A critical part of this connection is your email welcome series: Get instant access to the Email Welcome Series workshop here and 5 DONE FOR YOU TEMPLATES here. Free Live Training on 11/1: Unlock Funds with Every Email! Think you've reached out to “everyone” in your network? Out of ideas to get noticed and get funded? Generate leads for your nonprofit or social impact business: https://www.splendidcourses.com/prospectResources: Email Goldmine [Free Class] How to Get Noticed & Funded Online [Free Class] Private coaching: Schedule a discovery call here. - Instagram, LinkedIn, website - Join the Purpose and Profit Club weekly newsletter here. Music by The Selmanaires, featuring "Selmanaire Rock." May contain affiliate links

Katie Sturino is still looking for an answer to why plus size in-store expansions fail. In the first episode of this series, ‘Why is plus size fashion failing?' Katie discovered the disconnect between data showing demand for plus sizes IRL and in-store sales numbers that don't meet those projections.  Katie speaks with two anonymous guests who worked at national clothing retailers that oversaw the ultimately failed launch of plus sizes nationwide, breaking down the time and effort and care that goes into an extended size launch. Even with the best of plans, these retailers still couldn't figure out how to successfully launch plus size nationwide. In this episode we find out what went wrong.  Special thanks to our anonymous guests for speaking with us, you know who you are!    You can follow Katie on Instagram at @katiesturino and @megabababe Have any questions or comments? Email us at boobsweatproductions@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 201-701-1575. — For a limited time, Boob Sweat listeners can use code BOOBSWEAT15 at checkout for 15% off your order at megababebeauty.com! — This podcast was produced by Wonder Wheel Media and Madison Higley

It's been 9 years since Katie Sturino began talking about fashion for women of all sizes. In many ways, a lot has changed since then. The conversation has made its way to mainstream media, advertising campaigns, and brands focused on creating a full size range have been born.  But have we seen the peak of fashion's acceptance for larger bodies? Big retailers like Old Navy and Loft have swung and missed. Contemporary brands like Staud and ALC have quietly launched extended sizes that disappeared before getting any traction. And now Katie wants to know what's going wrong. This is the first episode of a THREE PART SERIES exploring the past, present, and future of the plus size fashion industry.  Special thanks to Our guests Helen Nightingale and Hitha Herzog for speaking with us. You can find Hitha Herzog at @hithaherzog on instagram and @hithaherzog on twitter, www.hithaherzog.com, and check out her book Black Market Billions on audible.  You can follow Katie on Instagram at @katiesturino and @megabababe Have any questions or comments? Email us at boobsweatproductions@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 201-701-1575. — For a limited time, Boob Sweat listeners can use code BOOBSWEAT15 at checkout for 15% off your order at megababebeauty.com! — This podcast was produced by Wonder Wheel Media and Madison Higley

TED Talk speaker, former D1 athlete, podcast host, creator, & entrepreneur Victoria Browne shares her own self-love journey + tips for healing your relationship with food.  Victoria's personal journey, from her eating disorder to being a D1 athlete to sharing her body on social media the subtle ways our childhood can impact our relationship with our body the impact of being an athlete on the way you view your body  the best way to communicate with your partner about body image issues how to feel sexier in your body  how to walk into every room with more confidence  tips for starting an intuitive eating journey  a first step for starting to heal your relationship with food TODAY  and so much more!  For more from Victoria, follow her @victoriabrowne on Instagram and TikTok and check out RealPod wherever you listen to podcasts.   Check our previous How I Learned To Love My Body episodes: with Raeann Langas, Katie Sturino, Achieng Agutu, Britney Vest, and Hunter McGrady.  To join the Healthier Together Podcast Club Facebook group, go to https://www.facebook.com/groups/healthiertogetherpodcast. This episode is sponsored by:  AG1 by Athletic Greens: visit athleticgreens.com/healthiertogether and get your FREE year supply of Vitamin D and 5 free travel packs today.  Pique: go to piquelife.com/LIZMOODY and use code LIZMOODY for 15% off plus free shipping FOR LIFE on Pique's Radiant Skin Duo. Paleovalley: head over to paleovalley.com and use the code LIZM for 15% off. Cymbiotika: get 15% off using code LIZ at cymbiotika.com.  Healthier Together cover art by Zack. Healthier Together music by Alex Ruimy.

Do you feel so out of touch with your body that you're not sure what "healthy body image" really feels like? Are you sick of yo-yo dieting and weight loss goals, always hoping to change how you look? This episode is for the high school girl in all of us who never felt good enough, and the adult women who are still struggling to feel lovable as we are. Josie is joined by Katie Sturino, an entrepreneur, influencer, author, and body acceptance advocate. Katie is the author of Body Talk, host of the Boob Sweat Podcast, founder of successful wellness and beauty brand MEGABABE, and a personality, recently interviewed on The Drew Barrymore Show. Josie and Katie discuss how to achieve true body acceptance, what healthy body image really means, and the source of body insecurities. Josie also grills Katie for her productivity tips and secrets behind her success (because she is doing a lot). This conversation is going to transform the way you think about your body, guaranteed. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Back by popular demand, entrepreneur, author, body acceptance advocate, and DST regular, Katie Sturino joins Remy and Emily on the podcast *audibly says yay*. For those who aren't familiar with Katie's wide array of projects, she shares how she got started with her viral #SuperSizeTheLook series along with starting her body care company, Megababe. Re: products for problems that every body has, from thigh chafing to boob sweat. This transitions into a convo about the lack of accessibility in fashion and they unpack the struggles of shopping for size-inclusive clothes. Katie then gets into her personal journey with body acceptance and shares some tips on how to stop punishing ourselves with negative thoughts. They wrap up by answering a few listener questions, and yes, that includes a list of Katie's favorite brands. Check out our latest promo codes here: https://betches.com/promos Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A 'multi-hyphenate' is a word that gets thrown around a lot—but Katie Sturino defines the very meaning. An entrepreneur, author, body acceptance advocate, and so much more, she's a true trail blazer in this crazy world we live in. Her forward-thinking disposition has set her apart, so has the fact that she's completely herself—it's infectious and proves the power of authenticity and conviction within oneself to make a difference. We had such an interesting conversation about topics our society has ridden taboo from body positivity and accepting women of all sizes (and accepting ourselves) to chafing thighs and boob sweat. In creating the mega brand, Megababe, Katie is gracefully breaking down barriers one stigma at a time.     Head to printfresh.com/lipstick or use code LIPSTICK for 15% off your first order.   Start a new healthy habit today. Visit seed.com/LIPSTICK and use code LIPSTICK to redeem 20% off your first month of Seed's DS-01™ Daily Synbiotic.   Want to empower yourself and spread kindness to others with the original word bracelet? Go to littlewordsproject.com/LIPSTICK or enter LIPSTICK at checkout for 30% off your first order for a limited time only.   From now until Friday, November 26, Macy's online Black Friday event is saving you big on the essentials and gifts you've been waiting to snatch up all year. Check out macys.com before November 26.   Bring your hair into the future with K18 molecular repair and shop K18's leave-in molecular repair hair mask, available now at Sephora and sephora.com.     Produced by Dear Media. 

Hoda Kotb has one-on-one with Jamie Lee Curtis to talk about the new film “Halloween Ends.” Also, Steal that Celeb Style-- Katie Sturino shares some styles that will help you obtain that celebrity look. Plus, James Denton in studio with Hoda Kotb and Jenna Hager to talk about the new Hallmark movie “Perfect Harmony.” And, it's National Savings Day—Stephanie Rhule has some tips on how to save and manage your money. 

Not many people know this, but I have multiple personalities… Just kidding! What I have is a propensity to name the different sides of myself. For instance, when I'm super productive, Productive Polly comes out. For the longest time, my default mode of being has been mired in anxiety and a lack of confidence.  But it's all changing! That fact, the fact that it's all changing, was one of the reasons why I was so excited to get to chat with Cristin Goss. Cristin is the owner and founder of Goss Boss and she's made it her mission to help women find their confidence and feel more comfortable in their skin.  Even when she hasn't always been able to do the same.  For Cristin, the struggle to find confidence and self-acceptance all started when she was a child. She never looked like the other girls and she never felt as if she belonged. Just as she was finding herself and her place in the world, her entire life changed.  Those deeply profound life changes, along with the stress and uncertainty of the pandemic, started Cristin on the path of not only finding herself, but also loving herself.  Listen as Cristin shares her story and how her personal journey has so irrevocably impacted her business and growth. Cristin is so much fun to talk to and we're both baring it all for this one, so get ready to have a lot of laughs and many moments of personal introspection.    In This Episode: [01:42] Welcome to the show, Cristin! [04:55] We chat about how much our businesses have grown and changed since we met. [06:51] Learning how to create confidence as a business owner has been a key in my business. [08:17] Cristin shares her journey of becoming a confident person in her business and personal life. [16:31] What happened when she made the decision to stop leaning into the negative thoughts in her head? [20:56] I share what I did to change the dialogue in my head. [24:30] Cristin discusses Katie Sturino and the practices she implemented. [27:11] Three key areas where her clients struggle in life and relationships, business and career and body image. [33:07] Things to get you back on track when you have a bad head day. [39:39] Connecting with others on a same or similar journey is extremely important. [43:24] Cristin shares some affirmations that are very meaningful to her. [45:12] She talks about where we would go in Pittsburgh for a drink.   Links and Resources: Katie Sturino Find Cristin: Cristin Goss Instagram Find Jenn: Success Beyond The Lens @successbeyondthelens Instagram @successbeyondthelenspodcast Facebook | Picbabun Grab your Boundaries Resources Editable Welcome Packet Template Pinterest Freebies Consultation Connection Call

We're continuing the off season for just a few more weeks! Join us as we talk about Yue's layoff and the parallels of feeling disposable in both work and dating. We're also reairing the episode we did on Katie Sturino's podcast 'Boob Sweat' answering all your dating q's. We discuss dating app burnout, the art of meeting people IRL, and how to get back out there after a long-term relationship.Follow Katie @katiesturnio and check out her podcast 'Boob Sweat', book body talk and beauty line Megababe. Dateable listeners only! Get15% off, use the code BOOBSWEAT15 at https://megababebeauty.com/Follow us @dateablepodcast. Check out our website for more content, virtual live show dates, and merch. Join the Sounding Board at https://www.dateablepodcast.com/soundingboardThank you to our partners for this episode:Ettitude: Get 20% off your order of bamboo sheets, plus free shipping for a limited time when you visit https://www.ettitude.com/dateableCover art Photography Credit: Larry Wong #lwongphotoDateable is part of the Frolic Podcast Network. You can find more outstanding podcasts to subscribe to at frolic.media/podcastsSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/dateable-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Katie Sturino is as rebellious as they come. She's the founder of Megababe, a company near and dear to our hearts (and armpits and inner thighs), and she's also the author of Body Talk, the body-positivity bible. If you've been following her as long as we have, you know that she first gained Internet fame as the mom of Toast the dog. In this episode, she talks about size inclusivity in furniture, her favorite place to find custom curtains, and why she doesn't care if you don't like her candy-colored Palm Beach condo. #SorryNotSorry

Erica shakes things up by making I/O stand for Inner and Outer communication for the purpose of this episode. She talks about the ripple effect that inner communication can have on outer communication and shares real-life examples of this. Erica urges listeners to simply notice their thoughts and to find power in the word ‘nope'. Resources Referenced Recharge EBook: https://claxon-communication.com/recharge/Body Talk by Katie Sturino https://amzn.to/3QHK6c0Therapist Uncensored Podcast ep 169 with Sue Marriot and Dr. Ann Kelley https://bit.ly/3NhLRcZSelf Compassion Resources from Dr. Kristin Neff https://self-compassion.org/ Connect with Erica:Website: https://claxon-communication.com/Twitter: https://twitter.com/EricaMillsBarnLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericamillsbarnhart/Email: info@claxon-communication.com  

Today we're answering a listener question that we've been asking ourselves our whole lives: How TF does one get dressed (and, you know, feel good about what they're wearing)? Also: We grapple with the big challenges we're having with small talk.   For those looking for a tailor in NYC, Mend Tailoring and Alteration Specialists do house calls, and Silhouettes & Profiles on the UWS is great. In L.A., it's all about Elias in Santa Monica.   Check out Amy Smilovic, Katie Sturino, and Jenna Lyons-era J.Crew for styling tips. Another stellar rec from our editor Maddie: Allison Bornstein's TikTok.    If you have any small-talk tips (and advice for what to wear with Issey Miyake Pleats Please pants) we want them at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, or @athingortwohq. For more recommendations, try out a Secret Menu membership.   Support a business with Shopify. Dig in with a free 14-day trial with our link. Amp up your immune system with Athletic Greens and get a one-year supply of Vitamin D and five free travel packs with your first purchase when you use our link. Get better sleep with Beam Dream and get up to 35% with the code ATHINGORTWO. Try Thinx and get $10 off your first order when you visit rethinkyourcycyle.com and use the code ATHINGORTWO. Upgrade your piercing and earring experience with Studs and take 20% off your first order when you use our link. YAY.   Produced by Dear Media

Because this is what we do to ourselves every day. We put in so much effort to just exist as basic people in the world. Like, we’re not like knockout celebrities. We’re not like stunning anybody. Like, we put in all of this work for a reward that doesn’t actually ever come.You’re listening to Burnt Toast! This is the podcast where we talk about diet culture, fatphobia, parenting, and health. Today I’m chatting with Jessica Defino. Jessica is a pro-skin, anti-product beauty reporter who is dismantling beauty standards, debunking marketing myths, and exploring how beauty culture impacts people. Her work has appeared in the New York Times, Vogue, Allure, and more. She also writes the beauty-critical newsletter, The Unpublishable. If you enjoy this episode, please subscribe, rate and review us in your podcast player! It’s free and a great way to help more folks find the show.For next month’s bonus ep, I’m trying out a new format: Virginia’s Office Hours. If you have a question about navigating diet culture and anti-fat bias that you’d like to talk through with me, or if you just want to rant about a shitty diet with me, you can submit your question/topic here. I’ll pick one person to join me on the bonus episode so we can hash it out together. Bonus episodes are for paid subscribers only, so join us here so you don’t miss out! Episode 47 TranscriptVirginiaI feel a weird compulsion to tell you that as I contemplated this conversation, my skin broke out very dramatically. And I was like, do I need to disclose this to her? And then I was like, No, it’s fine. It’s fine.JessicaIt’s totally fine. You’re just a normal human being with skin.VirginiaYes, exactly. But it was very funny timing. Why don’t we start by having you tell listeners a little bit about yourself and your work?JessicaI describe myself as a pro-skin, anti-product beauty reporter. I report on beauty and skincare, mostly through the lens of skin first, and then what we put on the skin and the consumerism of it all second, which is pretty rare in the beauty space. It’s also really hard in the beauty space. I was finding all this information about skin and skincare culture and beauty culture and really wanting to report on it, and found that I had a hard time placing these more controversial pitches. My bread and butter is still freelancing. I write for places like the New York Times and Vogue and Allure, but mostly these days, I’m working on my own newsletter The Unpublishable where I can dive a little deeper and explore some of these not industry-friendly topics.VirginiaYou’re speaking to my soul. As my readers know, I started Burnt Toast so that I could write diet culture stories that I can’t write in the outlets that run diet ads next to my work. I spent a long time at women’s magazines and the ethical conundrum of the beauty department is fascinating. And I don’t think people understand the extent to which advertising and beauty content are interwoven. Sketch that out a little bit for us.JessicaIt’s intense. I had no idea until I started reporting on the beauty industry, too. Beauty media is pretty much funded by beauty advertisers, which means it’s not within a publication’s best interest to publish anything that goes against advertisers’ interest—which means a lot of beauty content is very product focused. It’s very sort of light and airy, and not diving deep to question, like, how are these products affecting our skin, our health, our endocrine systems. Beauty media makes money in one of two ways: Through advertising or through affiliate sales. So there’s a big internal incentive to push a lot of products on people, because the publication will get a cut of all those products that are sold online. It’s very interwoven. I have had so many stories killed or completely edited to remove brand names, softened, just really toned down in order to appease advertisers. VirginiaI want to tell you my story of this, which is taking us all the way back to 2007, pre- social media. I did my first big investigative feature piece, which was a deep dive into working conditions in nail salons. I wrote it for Jane magazine, when Jane was the coolest women’s magazine, and also the sort of counterculture women’s magazine. I spent all this time with these nail salon workers, exploring every aspect of this, and they killed it right before we went to press because of nail polish advertisers. And because a big portion of subscribers were nail salons, and they thought they would lose subscribers. That was such a transformative moment for me as a journalist. I was like, Oh, I have to figure out different ways to do this. Because that was a media outlet that I don’t think you would have expected to be as beholden to their advertisers as they were. I can talk about this all now because they folded a million years ago and the piece did end up finally running in The Nation, which obviously has no beauty advertisers. But it also was read by a much smaller audience, not all of whom understood what nail salons were. I mean, the overlap between nail salon customers and The Nation readers is probably not that big.JessicaThat’s the thing! It is a little bit easier to get some harder hitting pieces published in more news-driven outlets, but that’s not where the majority of people who are interested in beauty are getting their beauty information. And so I try really hard to infiltrate those spaces. But it is hard and your story doesn’t surprise me at all. Still, every time I hear something like that, it hurts.VirginiaAnd when you’re trying to publish in the other outlets, you have to convince them that these issues matter. Because now it’s a women’s issue. It’s fluffy. It’s beauty. There’s that whole piece of it. Well, we could rant about that forever, but I feel like we also need to talk about Kim Kardashian. And I probably need to apologize for making you do this, because it’s maybe bringing up some trauma. But we are recording this, it’s a week after the Met Gala when Kim wore Marilyn Monroe’s dress and went on this crazy diet losing a stupid amount of weight in three weeks. You wrote an incredible piece for Vice about your experience working for the Kardashians’ app company. You draw so many smart parallels in that piece between underpaid media work and beauty work. So what is your take on the whole Met Gala thing?JessicaSo Kim was boasting about spending three weeks basically starving herself working out twice a day in a sauna suit. She did an article for Vogue where she said she spent 14 hours the day before getting her hair bleached. Like, that’s so much effort. And my thought was: She looked fine. It was a pretty boring look. It wasn’t a standout moment at the Met Gala. And that makes it such a perfect parallel for mass beauty culture because this is what we do to ourselves every day. We put in so much effort to just exist as basic people in the world. We’re not knockout celebrities. We’re not stunning anybody. We put in all of this work for a reward that doesn’t actually ever come and I thought it was a pretty interesting parallel there.VirginiaYes, it’s an amazing metaphor of what we’re all doing. She just compressed it all into three weeks. My other thought was, this is a woman for whom beauty work is so non-negotiable. If she wants to leave the house without makeup, this is something that’s going to be covered and talked about. So for me, it just kind of felt like why are we even surprised? She’s saying out loud what a lot of other people were also doing to get into their dresses, they just weren’t making a media stunt out of it. It’s not uncommon for a celebrity to spend three weeks before a big event doing insane things to fit into a dress.JessicaIt’s not uncommon for anyone. I had tweeted something to that effect and someone was like, “Please, this is what women do before their wedding day all the time. It’s not that big of a deal.” And I was like, “Just because it happens all the time doesn’t mean it’s not that big of a deal.” That’s a huge deal. That’s a huge deal that so many people are doing it constantly. It’s not just celebrities.VirginiaA line I loved from the Vice piece is: “Beauty standards have always been physical manifestations of systems of oppression.” This, of course, applies to the diet industry just as much as it does to beauty and skincare. So I really want to explore the intersections of these two cultures. How are skincare culture and diet culture really one and the same? “Beauty standards have always been physical manifestations of systems of oppression.” JessicaI always say that skincare culture is dewy diet culture. There are so many parallels. In both instances people have been made to believe that a certain aesthetic signifies health, when that’s not the case. We’re sold products to help us achieve that aesthetic at the expense of our health. We’re sent to doctors who reinforce beauty standards and call it medical care. There are all sorts of doctors who subscribe to BMI as a marker of health, and will tell a patient “just lose weight” when they actually have cancer—and dermatologists are really not that different. I don’t mean this as a slight against dermatologists. This as an indictment of the entire western medical system where beauty standards have been subsumed into medical care. When you’re going to a dermatologist, very often, aside from skin cancer screenings, you are getting treatments to help you look a certain way without ever exploring the root cause of why your skin is reacting the way it’s reacting. The entire thing is “how do we get rid of this as quickly as possible?” And very often achieving that goal goes against your actual skin health.VirginiaAnd they’re often treating things that aren’t even health problems, right? Wrinkles are not a health problem. Even breaking out is normal.JessicaYes. I hate skin types. I hate this idea of “normal” skin because normal skin reacts to the world around it. That is actually the the job your skin is supposed to play. It’s supposed to alert you to any potential imbalances, any internal health issues, any issues in your external environment. So when your skin is reacting in that way, that’s health. That is exactly what it’s supposed to be doing. It’s our job to figure out if is this actually a cue about my health, and if so, what’s going on? Or to say, this isn’t actually about my health. This is just a normal thing that happens to people as they age or as they go through pregnancy or as they go through menopause, whatever. So much of it has nothing to do with health. I think the other parallel is that we’re told that subscribing to this certain standard of beauty, whether it’s your body size or your skin, will increase your confidence and make you feel good. But the data bears out a very different story. Feeling held to this impossible standard of beauty to have like skin like a doll or a model who has been through Photoshop and filters and FaceTune and plastic surgery, increases appearance anxiety, depression, body dysmorphia, facial dysmorphia, eating disorder, self harm and even suicide. We’re told that it’s going to be good for us and make us feel better and really makes us feel like s**t.VirginiaThe thing about dermatologists gets me so fired up. We have a history of melanoma in my family so I do go in for my skin checks and one year, I couldn’t get my annual skin check appointment for 18 months. She was booked out that far for the annual cancer screenings, but they could get me in the next week to talk about acne. I just remember thinking, Isn’t making sure I don’t have cancerous moles like more pressing? It said a lot to me. There’s no product she can sell me related to cancerous moles, but there are many products to sell me related to breakouts. JessicaThat’s horrible. And it’s also not surprising. I’ve had so many women tell me specifically that they have gone in for their annual skin cancer screenings and their dermatologist will start talking about Botox or filler and selling them during this health appointment. That messes with your mind because it’s coming from a medical doctor. They’re suggesting alongside a cancer screening, “Hey, maybe you should get your crow’s feet done. Maybe you should get your frown lines done. Maybe you should get your lips filled.” It starts to feel like these things are part of being a healthy human being when they’re not.VirginiaI’m thinking about the intersections, too, with anti-fat bias. I think for a lot of us in bigger bodies, there’s often some added pressure around skincare. Like, if I’m not meeting the size beauty standard, I have to have good skin. There’s a tension between these two things. And we can also talk about the vulnerability of going into these appointments, to any medical appointment when you’re braced for medical weight stigma. Similarly, I think going to the dermatologist is often really anxiety provoking about appearance because you’re expecting to be dissected and told everything about your skin is wrong.JessicaI have a long history of being obsessed with dermatology and taking any pill or prescription that they would give me, starting from probably age 14. I started antibiotics for acne. I was put on birth control pills at 15 for acne. I was on retinoids, tretinoin, Accutane for too long. Then a topical steroid prescription that actually ended up causing something called skin atrophy. This is what kick-started my whole interest in beauty and skincare to begin with, because my skin just stopped working. It was peeling off of my face in chunks. It was a terrible experience at the hands of my dermatologist. I remember after I had pretty much healed my skin myself by learning about how the skin actually works and how unnecessary most products actually are and really paring back, I went to a dermatologist again for my skin cancer screening, and he was like, “Your skin is really dry,” in this very judgmental tone. I was like, “Yeah, it’s dry, because you and your colleagues put me on Accutane for years, which killed my sebaceous gland function and now my skin can’t moisturize itself. That’s not my fault. It’s actually your fault.” It is really frustrating. Especially as somebody who has been through the wringer with dermatology to still get that judgment. Because I’ve actually tried everything you’ve suggested, and it doesn’t work.VirginiaOh, my gosh, that’s so infuriating. I loved the piece you wrote in the newsletter where you talked about Katie Sturino, who is a really great body positive fashion influencer. But she did this whole thing about Botox. It felt like a very weird left turn.JessicaYeah, for sure. I actually see this a lot in the body positive community, especially on Instagram. When it gets to your face, when it gets above the neck, all of that rhetoric goes out the window. In Katie Sturino’s post, she celebrated Botox’s anniversary with a huge cake. So it was like, “eat the cake!” but “freeze your frown lines.” These things really are the same and I see them put together so often, as if they don’t stem from the same exact tenants of oppression. It’s harmful to position yourself as taking a stand against beauty standards, and then use that same platform to feed people another set of beauty standards. People trust you, so it’s really easy for them to internalize that as something that is good and healthy. So what I like to tell people is: Take the beauty content that you consume and swap out certain phrases. For instance, if instead of “frown lines” this Instagram caption had said “fat rolls,” would it feel good to you? If they were like, “get rid of your fat rolls in five minutes?” No, that would obviously be problematic. But for some reason, when we put frown lines in there, it’s like, oh, yeah, no, I have to get rid of this. Or wrinkles and stretch marks, or acne and cellulite, or dull skin and that extra five pounds. It’s a good exercise to insert one for the other and see how empowering it feels to you. I think in the large majority of instances, you’ll see, oh, this is really harmful messaging coming from these these beauty influencers.VirginiaI am so glad you are connecting these dots. I think that ageism hasn’t been touched by the body positive movement, at least not online. I don’t think it’s a conversation we’re having yet. Shout out to my mom, who will be listening to this and saying, “Yes, that’s why I text you every week and say write about ageism.” I’m on it! But she’s right. Even among friends of mine, or folks in this community who would no longer say “I feel fat” in a pejorative way, it’s still very normal and acceptable to say, “I’m so old” or to express remorse about your birthday and about any physical signs of aging. Why do you think we’re still so locked into anti-aging as the goal? Especially since, as you put it in the newsletter piece, it is literally the most unattainable of all beauty standards.JessicaIt’s physically impossible. Never gonna happen. Which is great for the beauty industry. The reason they can push this so hard is because it’s a never-ending goal. There is no point at which you will have bought the right product or gotten the right Botox shot, and think, “I’m done. I’ve anti-aged.” They get you forever once they sell you on anti aging. I also think that this attraction to anti-aging has very spiritual roots. I think that it’s an extension of our fear of death, and our fear of facing our mortality. That’s a very human thing to fear, but we don’t live in a culture where we actually explore those feelings. And then, because we live in a society that also rvalues external appearance, it’s like, okay, well, if I can just look young forever, I won’t actually have to face any of these issues. A big thing I hear from women who are telling me that they need to get Botox, they need to get filler, they need to get the facelift, is: “I look in the mirror, and I don’t look like myself anymore.” And that’s a really scary thing for a lot of people to face. And I get that. But also the point of life is not to look like yourself forever. The point of life is to grow and evolve and change and find a way to be comfortable with that change. If we keep reverting back to former versions of ourselves and calling that progress, that causes a lot of problems.VirginiaPeople say the same thing about weight gain, and particularly postpartum weight gain: “I just don’t feel like myself anymore.” But why is your 16-year-old self or your 26-year-old self the only you that you’re allowed to be? Why did you have to freeze in time with that body? Why can you not change and grow in terms of your physical appearance?JessicaThat’s such a beautiful way to put it. I think with anti-aging, too, there’s a lot of it tied up in productivity culture and also in the way that we treat our elderly community. If we really wanted to address our fear of aging, we would need to start investing in community care and advocating for human rights and health equity and economic security for the elderly and age diversity in the workplace. This idea that once you stop being able to produce output for the economy, that your value as a person diminishes—I think all of that is tied up in what we’re doing to our faces as well. VirginiaI’m thinking this also intersects so heavily with misogyny, right? Because women are held to very different aging standards than men. In the workplace, that plays out in terms of whether you can get a job and whether you can literally financially support yourself. I’ve talked to women who’ve said, “I don’t care about gray hair, but I can’t show up to work with gray hair.” How do you navigate that piece of it?JessicaIt’s really tough. When I get the same question, I do tend to draw a line here between beauty culture and diet culture. Because we’ve gotten to the point in diet culture where we can all agree that life is easier for you in terms of how people treat you, when you’re thin. Is that a good justification to starve yourself and put yourself through these unhealthy practices in order to be thin? I think most people would agree that’s not a good justification. But when it comes to beauty, when it comes to wrinkles, when it comes to gray hair, we allow that. We say okay, yes, this is a good justification. I would like to see us get to the point as a culture where we can agree that giving into these beauty demands is similarly not a sustainable way to exist in the world. Sometimes we feel like we do have to alter our appearance in order to deal with these external judgments. And coping mechanisms aren’t always bad. But you have to understand what is a coping mechanism in your beauty routine and what is truly something you’re doing for your health. What is for “feeling good,” what is a self-expression lipstick and what is actually giving into a really harmful, ageist, sexist standard in order to exist in the world. And then: Where can we divest? Where can we invest in changing those standards instead?VirginiaMaybe a first step is just being honest with yourself. If job security is on the line, you’re not going to stop dying your hair, and I don’t think either one of us is saying you should. You can only challenge what makes sense to challenge. But there’s probably some clarity that comes with being clear and honest with yourself about why you’re choosing these different standards. It can be so interrelated and hard to sort out for yourself why these different things matter.JessicaRight? There’s a great quote that I love to reference from Tressie McMillan Cottom’s book Thick: “‘I like what I like’ is always a capitalist lie.” Oh my gosh, when I first read that it hit me so hard. I repeat it constantly to people because just saying, “Oh, I like doing this,” or “I do this for me,” isn’t really a good enough answer, because there’s always something deeper that informs why you like it and why it makes you feel good. And it normally stems from something in the external culture making you feel really bad first, and that is the thing that we have to address.VirginiaA reader question I answered recently that I think made people the most uncomfortable was someone saying but, what if I just don’t want to be fat? Like, what if that’s just my preference? It’s so hard for us to recognize we didn’t get there in a vacuum. Butter For Your Burnt ToastJessicaI’m working on a post for my newsletter now and I’m trying to create a list of songs, movies, poems, art that reference ugly women—not necessarily ugly, but things you wouldn’t necessarily find attractive. Just to romanticize these features that are often neglected by mainstream beauty media. I was listening to “Thunder Road” by Bruce Springsteen the other day, and I love that line where he’s like, “You ain’t a beauty, but hey, you’re alright.” And then it’s just this like bleeding heart love song to this woman who’s like, fine, I guess. I just love that and I want more. I want more art about plain, ugly people.VirginiaYes! That’s a great recommendation. Mine is also music, we’re in sync there. This is actually a double recommendation. So novelist Emma Straub, who I recommend just as a human, as a fashion icon, as a writer, everything. I recommend her, and I recommend her new book This Time Tomorrow, which is the best novel I’ve read all year. So that’s your first recommendation. But, a very cool thing Emma does, that she talked about in her newsletter, is she makes playlists for each of her novels, which you can find on Spotify. And they are so good. Particularly for my peers who were teenagers in the 90’s. The one for This Time Tomorrow was really great. It starts with the Kinks song, which is not a 90s song, but it’s a beautiful song. And the one for her novel Modern Lovers, I’m really obsessed with. It starts with Melissa Etheridge. This is the soundtrack that I’ve been putting on—I talked in a recent podcast about how I’m into puzzles now. So that’s my puzzle soundtrack when I’m working on a puzzle. And my eight-year-old really loves it, too. I was like, “do we need a different soundtrack because we’re starting a new puzzle?” And she was like, “No, we need Modern Lovers again.” So we’re really into it.JessicaI’m gonna go listen to it now. VirginiaIt’s so good. Jessica, thank you for being here! Tell us where we can find more of you and support your work.JessicaThank you so much for having me! Pretty much all my work now is through my newsletter The Unpublishable.Thanks so much for listening to Burnt Toast. If you’d like to support the show, please subscribe for free in your podcast player and tell a friend about this episode. And consider a paid subscription to the Burnt Toast newsletter! You’ll help keep this an ad- and sponsor-free space, and as you know from me and Jessica, that is hard to find. 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