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Janet Varney is an Emmy-Nominated actor, comedian, writer and producer. She can be heard as the voice of Korra on "The Legend of Korra” on Netflix, where she can also be seen as Summer in the comedy series “Country Comfort." On HULU, she fights dark forces starring opposite John C. McGinley on "Stan Against Evil" and appears as Becca on FXX's "You're the Worst.” She also created, wrote, produced and starred in the critically-acclaimed IFC online series "Fortune Rookie.” And as of this summer, you can also catch her recurring on Apple TV+'s “Platonic” opposite Seth Rogen and Rose Byrne. Onstage, Janet performs with Rachel Dratch, John Michael Higgins, Michael Hitchcock, Oscar Nunez and more in their improv supergroup Theme Park, and alongside Paul F. Tompkins, Busy Philipps, Paget Brewster and more for the Thrilling Adventure Hour. Janet co-created/wrote/produced “Neil's Puppet Dreams” starring Neil Patrick Harris. You can also find Janet on YouTube for Geek & Sundry's “Escape!" which she co-wrote, produced and hosted. She also hosts three hit podcasts: The JV Club with Janet Varney; Avatar: Braving The Elements; and Truth and Justice with Bob Ruff. She is Co-Founder/Creative Director of one of the largest and most acclaimed comedy festivals in North America, SF Sketchfest: the San Francisco Comedy Festival, now in its 20th year.

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At the box office this weekend, get ready to go back into the “Transformers” universe. “Transformers: Rise of the Beasts” is the 7th film in the franchise, this one a sequel set in the 90s. And it's expected to narrowly defeat “Spider-Man: Across The Spider-Verse” for box office supremacy. Jason has thoughts. On the small screen, the star of the live-action Spider-Man movies, Tom Holland, stars in “The Crowded Room,” a series about a guy with a mental disorder that Holland says “broke him.” On Hulu, it's the story of how Flamin' Hot Cheetos became one of the world's most popular snacks, in Eva Longoria's directorial debut “Flamin' Hot.” And on Peacock, Kaley Cuoco and Chris Messina star in the true crime dramedy “Based on a True Story.”

At the box office this weekend, get ready to go back into the “Transformers” universe. “Transformers: Rise of the Beasts” is the 7th film in the franchise, this one a sequel set in the 90s. And it's expected to narrowly defeat “Spider-Man: Across The Spider-Verse” for box office supremacy. Jason has thoughts. On the small screen, the star of the live-action Spider-Man movies, Tom Holland, stars in “The Crowded Room,” a series about a guy with a mental disorder that Holland says “broke him.” On Hulu, it's the story of how Flamin' Hot Cheetos became one of the world's most popular snacks, in Eva Longoria's directorial debut “Flamin' Hot.” And on Peacock, Kaley Cuoco and Chris Messina star in the true crime dramedy “Based on a True Story.”

Kevin Heffernan is 1/5 of the comedy group Broken Lizard and has made cult classics like Super Troopers, Beerfest, Club Dread, and the upcoming Quasi out on Hulu on 4/20. Kevin is also the Showrunner of the hit sitcom Tacoma FD on TruTV and streaming on HBOMax.Show NotesKevin Heffernan on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/heffernanrules/Kevin Heffernan on IMDB - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0373571/Michael's Online Screenwriting Course - https://michaeljamin.com/courseFree Screenwriting Lesson - https://michaeljamin.com/freeJoin My Watchlist - https://michaeljamin.com/watchlistAuto-Generated TranscriptKevin Heffernan:That meeting that we first had with you guys. Yeah. And we, we were at Dave, we were at we were at the three Arts offices. Yep. AndAnd I remember this cuz I was like, you know, let me and I, and you know, maybe you've come to realize this, but let, and I were, were a little bit more insecure about our knowledge about how to make a TV show cuz we hadn't done it before. Right. And and I remember I kept in the meeting, we would have conversations like, he would keep saying things like well I don't know. Cause we only make movies, you know, I don't know. Cause he's gonna make movies. Right. I kept saying that. And what I was trying to say was, I don't know anything about tv. Right. But your partner Sivert, he, he threw that back in my face at one point. He does. He said, but I don't know. Cause I only make TV, you know. Oh my God. Thought was the funniest fucking thing. I thought it was so fucking funny. Michael Jamin:Oh, thank God he didn't take the meeting.You're listening to Screenwriters Need to Hear This with Michael Jamin.Hey everyone, it's Michael Jamin. Welcome back to Screenwriters Need to Hear This, the podcast. I got another great guest for you everyone. Hope everyone's sitting down. It's Kevin Heffernan. He's also my boss, so I'm gonna be extra nice for this. But IKevin Heffernan:Like to think we're coworkers, Mike. Well,Michael Jamin:He likes to say that, but meanwhile he makes him, makes me bring him lunch. I like to and rub his feet while he eats it. I like toKevin Heffernan:But then you get somebody, you get somebody younger to bring you lunch to bring Correct. Isn't that the way it works?Michael Jamin:And rub my feet. Yes. Right. Just kickKevin Heffernan:It down.Michael Jamin:Fine. Kevin, let me give you a proper introduction for those. Okay. Who never, ever heard of you. First of all, he's the star and showrunner of Tacoma fd. We're in season four. We just finished season four right now. But also you may know him from from a million million movies. Supert Trooper. Supert Trooper Two Club, dread Slam and Salmon Beer Fest. Quai he's one of the founding members of, and I'm of Broken Lizard, which is a comedy troop. And he's also an actor. Everyone, please welcome to the show, Kevin Heffernan. Ron, can I applaud? You should definitely applaud, dude. Thank you so much. I, I have to say, and I've said this to you many times publicly, but I gotta say it, that everyone is listening. I always give you and Lemi a lot, so much credit for what you guys have done because like, the way I see my career, I feel like, I guess I'm like a Hollywood insider in the sense that I got hired by someone to be on a show and then I rose up the ranks. And then about halfway through my career, I noticed I was no longer working for Hollywood Insiders. I was working for basically Hollywood outsiders. People who made their own career and made themselves so desirable that Hollywood came to them and said, Hey, will you do stuff for us? And that's what I feel like you guys have done.Kevin Heffernan:Well, it's a little bit like I guess that's part of the, in front of the camera thing that gives you a little extra allure, I guess. I don't know. Or so, or a way to it does made,Michael Jamin:I think so. But when you started broken, you know, when you guys did your first broken lizard movie, you were just, you know, you guys did it on your own. Yes.Kevin Heffernan:Yeah.Michael Jamin:I mean, talk about that. How did you make that happen? You guys were just nobody's.Kevin Heffernan:Yeah, I mean, well we, we were a, you know, a group that was, I guess we were kind of self-contained. You know, a lot of people, they get out of school, whatever it is, and they, they kind of join some other entity whether it's, you know, some performance thing like the Groundlings or they go to a film school or whatever it is. And we just did it. Our, you know, we had five, well we had more, at the time it was like eight or nine folks. And then after we graduated from Colgate University, we went to New York and we started doing live shows and, and just doing everything soup to nuts. You know, we would, did did the acting and then directing, they're producing the editing and the writing and that, that's how kind of we cut our teeth in order to, you know, and then it was just kinda like, you know, Hey, let's make some short films. Let's, you knowMichael Jamin:Where were you showing these films?Kevin Heffernan:Yeah. And then we would show the films during our live shows. So we would do, you know, sketch shows, you know, in New York City and the Village or whatever. And we'd haul this like 800 pound you know, 32 inch tv into the room. And, and then we would just shoot these short videos. And they're essentially designed to show while we were able, you know, gives us a chance to change costumes and stuff, you know what I mean? It was, oh, it was a chance for us to have a, have a costume change and then we would start showing these videos. And then those were the things that always seemed to be really popular.Michael Jamin:And these were in like, small venues, like how big, how many seats?Kevin Heffernan:Yeah, I don't know. 80, you know, would,Michael Jamin:And how would you get people to show up?Kevin Heffernan:Well, we, you know, we went to Colgate, which is kind of a, kind of a big drinking school. And so and a lot of people migrate, you know, when they, it's in upstate New York, so they'll graduate and they'll, they'll move down to New York City. So there was this network of people from our school who were kind of big drinkers and, and young and, and we just kind of put out the word and all the friends would come, you'd get, you know, 50 people in the room. And I remember after the first weekend, the, the place, we were doing a place called the Duplex, which I think is still there. It's in like Christopher or Sheridan Square or something like that. Christopher Street. And the show would end and the bar, the guy who owned the club would walk in and the table would be full of empty beer bottles just full . And and he'd be so happy. And he kept offering us more, you know, gigs more nights or whatever. And it was basically cuz our friends came and they drank beer and they had laughs and, and were youMichael Jamin:Hitting the door? Or how, how were you charging?Kevin Heffernan:Yeah, yeah. We, well probably, we probably got some real shitty deal. You know, we probably had some horrible deal. I mean, it was like we were begging for stage time around town, you know? And and these guys, you know, let you start on a Monday night, you know, or whatever, whatever shitty time is, or, you know, Monday at 10 o'clock or whatever, you know, Uhhuh and do the show. And, and we'd get our friends to come and then it was Wednesday night, and then it was Friday night, and then it's, you know, Hey, you're doing the whole weekend. You know, and it kind of, kind of grew that way, but, and that was, and we learned to write sketches mm-hmm. when we were doing that, you know? And then did youMichael Jamin:Kind of, did you kind of learn in college though, when you were, you were writing sketches in college though?Kevin Heffernan:Yeah, we, we kind of self-taught. We, we, it was kind of later towards the end of our college careers where we started this comedy group. And my buddy Jay Chen Sekar, who's, you know, still in the,Michael Jamin:There he is. Oh, we're gonna plug that Quasi is the movie plugKevin Heffernan:That, but that's him. That's Jay ChenMichael Jamin:Important. That's the most important one. I've left that one out.Kevin Heffernan:Yeah. But that's him. And then he had had some background in Chicago at the IO in Second City and things like that, doing improv. And always wanted to do a show at Colgate. And so he had gotten the opportunity through some student theater group. There was a guy who was like, Hey, why don't you put up a show? And he was like, ah, I don't wanna do it. I don't wanna do it. And then ultimately, I think they gave him like 500 bucks, Uhhuh . And he decided to put together a group of people, and he and I were very close friends. And he knew that I was interested in something like that. And so we put together this group of folks, and it was probably like 15 people at that point in time and, and just started this comedy group. And we didn't know, like we didn't know how to do improv. We didn't know how to write sketches, we know any of that stuff. And it was just, JayMichael Jamin:Took one class, basically, and he's like, I'll, I'll teach you guys how to doKevin Heffernan:It. Well, he, he didn't, he wasn't even the teacher, you know, like he did. Yeah. Like, he did a, a summer, like likeGuys. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, I'll try this. And we were miserable. I mean, we were horrible. But the, the thing in, in colleges and, and you probably have the same thing, it's like, you know, I think a lot of comedy is, is is the, you have to laugh out of shared experience, right? So the audience says, Hey, I know that happened to me. You know, that's why they laugh, right? So at college, it's a very insular world that you can do that. So you can make fun of that professor and that security guard and that, you know, fraternity, sorority, whatever it is. And, and that's the thing that you learn to write and that everyone laughs at. And so that's how we started where you would just, you'd make fun of people on campus and people love it. And then you, in that way, you learn how to write and, and do characters and whatever, and Right.You know, whatever. We were all fans of Saturday Night Live and Monty Python and whatever. And I think, you know, the idea was let's just try to do that. And it was very simple because it was a, it's like given a wedding toast, you know? It's like, you know, everyone's on your side, right? Everyone wants to laugh together, the same thing. And, you know, we started doing these shows there, and they were just super popular because there was nothing like it there. And people were, were happy to see us make fun of, you know, that professor or that, butMichael Jamin:Then at some point though, you had to branch out to a larger audience, though.Kevin Heffernan:Well, that's the, that's the, the terrifying thing is we got to, we moved to New York City afterwards and realized you couldn't make fun of the dean or the professor or whatever. You had to figure out what the things are that more people would laugh at. And I think, you know, that's the little of a learning curve. But we did that, and then you just start writing sketches and, and we started making these videos. ButMichael Jamin:Then how did you still, how do you make this jump from, you know, selling tickets to friends, to selling tickets to strangers, basically?Kevin Heffernan:Yeah. I, it's just, I guess it's just word of mouth is, is the way, is the way it happens. Where it's like, I, I, I remember, you know, people would bring their friends, you know, from high school and their other friends and whatever it is, and then all of a sudden you have a group of people who are into it, you know? And and then you'd have, you know, agents start to come and industry people start to show up. And really, theyMichael Jamin:Were trying to show up. You, they weren't, this is fascinating to me. So you didn't even invite them, they would just show up.Kevin Heffernan:Yeah, well, you know, I mean it was kind of a fun time in New York at the time where there was kind of these two, there are different movements that were kind of happening. And one of 'em was the independent film movement, which was, you know, big. It was the Kevin Smith and, and you know, that kind of stuff where you, everyone was making, you know, low budget films. And then it was also, you know, kind of the growth of the comedy group. Again, I guess, you know, where U C B was just, just starting up in New York. And there was another group called The State that was doing stuff in they were outta nyu and they were doing shows. And so there were different kind of like, there was kind of a lot of burgeoning kind of comedy groups that were kind of in that same era. And, you know, people catch on. There was a, you know, M T V wanted to make a sketch comedy show, and they started scouting all these comedy groups, and they picked this group, the state, and they made the, they made their comedy show. So there was a, you know, there were a lot of people out there that had an appetite for, for this kind of thing. And, and you know, we were trying to capitalize on him.Michael Jamin:And the whole time you str all you guys were struggling, but you, you were also attending law school at the sameKevin Heffernan:Time? I did. I went to law school. I, I I I was working at a law firm for, for a couple years out of school. And then, yeah, I went, I ended up gonna law school during the day. Right. And then we would do these comedy shows at night. And they never, they're very different worlds, you know, like, but I remember one time we were taking a tour of the courthouse with my law school class, Uhhuh . And somebody walked up to me who had seen the live show, Uhhuh , who was like, Hey, you are the comedian Kevin hen, da da da da. Not that I was famous anyway, but this guy just happened to be in, and everyone in my law school class has looked at me and like, who the fuck are you ? Like, they had no idea that I was, had that other thing going on. So. AndMichael Jamin:Did that change the way they looked at you after? Like, they,Kevin Heffernan:I think a little bit. I mean, I was, you know, I, I was not a, a great participant in the law school world. I was kind of a back bencher. I'd sit in the back row and I didn't really, I might crack a joke here and there. And so, but then, yeah, I think, I think they probably got a feeling of like, oh, maybe this is not his his highest priority, this law school thing. DidMichael Jamin:You, well, did you pa take the bar?Kevin Heffernan:I did, yeah. I took the bar. Yeah, I did. I we took the bar. Well, I graduated from law school, and then we made our, I graduated from May, and we were preparing to shoot the first feature film we ever made. We were preparing to shoot it in June. And so I started studying for the bar and I realized, oh, I can't do this. I can't do this stuff. And so I went to my dad and I was like, I'm not gonna take the bar exam. And he's like, what? Are you crazy? And I was like, you know, he goes, you get all, you're gonna get all through law school and you're not gonna take the party time. I was like, well, I'm gonna take it, but I'll take it, you know, six months from now or a year from now. Right. You're not gonna do that. And I said, I will, I will. And he said, you know, he said, that's insane. You don't take the ball down to the goal line and not cross into the goal. You know, youMichael Jamin:Do it, you figure you're in the New York Jets. That's how they,Kevin Heffernan:That's, that's right. You know, there's some people who just don't get in the end zone . And so I, and so we did it. So, but so we made the movie and then six months later I went back and I took the bar exam and I passed it. So,Michael Jamin:See, you're a good boy now, but how did you raise the money for the movie?Kevin Heffernan:Well, that, like I was saying before, that was that era of like, people were bankrolling movies on credit cards, you know, and it was like you know, Kevin Smith or whoever it was, they, you know, made clerks for $30,000 or whatever it was, you know what I mean? So we at the time, j Chan Sacar had taken a couple N Y U film classes, and he was very much into it. He also had got started working with this guy as a, as an intern at this office of this lawyer. His name was John Slots, who had went on to become this huge, you know, independent film, you know, movie producer, icon type of a guy. And he represented all those guys, the link laters and, you know, the Kevin Smiths and Rodriguez, all these guys are making these kind of, you know, el mariachi, you know, they're making these movies, you know. And so he got into his head like, let's try to do this. And so basically we went around and we charged, I think the movie we made was called Puddle Cruiser, which was about 250,000 bucks. And most of it was charged on credit cardsMichael Jamin:Between the five of you.Kevin Heffernan:Well, well, Jay did most of it. And then some of us did some stuff in, and then some, and people got like, some of their families kicking, you know, five grand here or whatever. But the thing with Jay was that, his name is Jay Chanter Sekar. And his parents were doctors. And for some reason, the credit card companies started to thought that maybe he was a doctor and they started sending him, they would send him these credit cards and, you know, he was a day, right? You'd get a credit card in the mail, you know what I mean? And you'd be like, ah, whatever. And you use it. And so he u you know, he just charged him up and but he,Michael Jamin:And he wasn't worried about like ever paying it back. I mean,Kevin Heffernan:You know, I, I think ultimately he probably was, but that's just what everybody was doing. Like, they were just putting the stuff on credit cards and that's what we did. And we, you know, charged the camera package on credit cards and we did all that stuff. HeMichael Jamin:Needed that much. That's a lot of money. I'm surprised you couldn't do for less.Kevin Heffernan:Well there are a couple things to it. Like, number one, we shot on 35 millimeter, right? Which was unusual. Cause that's a very expensive film format. And at the time, people were shooting 16 millimeter and other things, something called Super 16. They're shooting all these things. And but we wanted shoot on 35 just cuz we thought we could ha make the movie have more commercial appeal. Right. And so we did that. And and then also it's just, you know, a lot of those movies were kind of like the adventure of one man or whatever. And we had like, you know, we al it's always been our problem. We have five storylines with five guys and whatever. So the movie's always kind of expanded a little bit. But yeah, so we went up to Colgate University we had written a, a, a, a romantic comedy like set in a college.And we went up to Colgate University and we said, Hey, can we shoot this film? And we went, we made a big pitch to the dean, you know, former students, you know, doing this thing. And he said, Nope. And then he said, you're, you're not, you're, we're not gonna let you do it. And we said that, but that's crazy. He said, look I'm the guy who puts my name on this thing, and you know, you're gonna come here up here and make an animal house and then we're gonna look like assholes. And then, and so we're like, but we would never do that. You can read the script, blah, blah, blah. And so essentially what we did we went back and, and we told our friends, it's like, like I said earlier with the people we're all drinking, it's a very networky school.And we just reached out to everyone and we said, please reach out to this dean and tell 'em you support alumni's you know in the arts. You, you support alumni in the arts and that kind of thing. And it was the, it was the age of the fax machine. Mm-Hmm. . And they just, we gave out this guy's fax number and he just started getting, he got probably like a thousand fax from faxes from you know, alumni and wow. And finally he caved. He's like, okay, all right. You can do it. Just don't have the school's name anywhere in, in in the movie. Like, okay, what about insurance? You have to worry about that. Who, who is you? Yeah. Yeah. That's part, I mean, that's part of film. You know, you, you buy insurance. Okay. You paid for that wasn't, wasn't called.Okay. No, well, they wouldn't let us. They were very adamant about us, you know, using as little of their facility as possible. They, you know, we were hoping we, they would give us a dorm for us to stay in. They wouldn't do that. And we couldn't house anybody on the campus or any of that kind of stuff. So, but it's so what I, it's just so scrappy of you guys. It really is. It's just, yeah. Yeah. No, I I, it's totally scrappy and I, I give chance se a lot of credit for that. He, you know, he was very much in that camp of like you know, let's go make a movie however we can. And and we did. And, and you know, we didn't no idea what we were doing. And, and we didn't know where to put the camera.We didn't know any of that stuff. And we had, you know, we had some professional crew folks that came that we hired, you know, from New York City, and they came up there and, you know, the DP and the Grip and the gaffer were guys who were a little bit more experienced than we were. And and, and we just shot this thing. And then we didn't even know how to edit it. We've never, you know, edited a movie before and you just learned as you did it, man. And we did. So what we did, then we came back, we were and our buddy was a NYU film student. We would, he would sneak us in at night to the NYU film department, and we would use the edit machines. And at the time, at the beginning it was Steam Back. So it was like literally the film, you would put the film and cut the film. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, don't do that anymore. But that, that, that was the end of that era. But we started cutting our films that way. And then, and then we turned, you know, on this particular movie called Puddle Cruiser, we moved over to computer editing, which was just starting then.Michael Jamin:So, wow. See what I, well, and I wanna talk about Quasi, which by the way, so Quasi Drops, this is your latest movie. It drops on four 20 on Marijuana Day Yeah. On Hulu. And everyone should go sit your, you know, whatever. It's, make sure you watch this movieKevin Heffernan:Marijuana Day,Michael Jamin:But, well, I saw, I don't even know how much you changed cuz I went to a, a screening of it, what was it, a year ago? How long was that?Kevin Heffernan:It was yeah, it was March. It was March. Wow. Of of 20 21, 2 20 22.Michael Jamin:And maybe there was, was there maybe a couple hundred people who went to that? Who Yeah,Kevin Heffernan:We, we you know, we like to do that, to do the test screens to see where the laughs are or whatever. And we got about 200 folks. We did a screening room, screening Room, Warner Brothers, and then and itMichael Jamin:Went great. Every, I mean, everyone was laughing, everyone. So I'm, yeah. I don't even know howKevin Heffernan:Much, which is terrifying because you know, that the movie, and you saw that version is, that's the, like, that was like the two hour plus cut. Right. You know, and that's when you just, you know, you throw it out there and just see what hits what sticks, you know, andMichael Jamin:And aKevin Heffernan:Lot did it with that one. And then since that version you saw mm-hmm. , you know, we've been through doing test screenings. We get notes from everybody at the studio, all that kind of business, and we've whittled away another half an hour.Michael Jamin:Do you, do you find the Oh, really took a half hour? You finding you have more notes the more, the bigger the budget or No?Kevin Heffernan:No, I don't think so. I mean, there's more fear, there's no question about that. You know, we, we, we, but we've never kind of like really kind of moved in that world a little bit. You know, we, we, we were very, we made, we remade the Dukes of Hazard, we did the Dukes of Hazard movies for Warner Brothers. That was like the biggest thing that we did budget wise, where that's like, you're spending 60, 70, 80 million and then all the decisions become very precious and, and very much my committee. But for us, I think the beauty is we've always functioned at a budget level where people kind of leave you alone. Right. You know, like, they might get adamant about something or whatever. You know, we, we had a few things on this movie that they were, they felt very strongly about. And we, you know, we'll go back and forth, but for the most part, you know, we've never been in that horrible situation of, youMichael Jamin:Know, t Sibert and I, we, we prefer the world of low budget for that reason. Yeah. Do you guys feel the same way?Kevin Heffernan:Yeah. I mean, you, you just kind of fly under the radar screen. You know, it's like you know, when, when we made the movie Beer Fest, you know, we made it at Warner Brothers and at the same time they were making like the first like, huge Superman reboot and, you know, the budget of our movie was like a week of catering, you know? Yeah. On that Superman movie. And they were so worried about that stuff that they don't, they don't care. Not they don't care, but they just, you're not a high priority. So like, they do yourMichael Jamin:Thing. Bigger problems. Yeah. One of the fun things that I love, I I by watch 'em all your movies and it's, I, I don't know if you know, if you think about this, but to me it's like fun to see the same guys playing different roles, often two different parts in the same movie. And it's just, I don't know, do you, are you aware of how much like joy that gives Keep people?Kevin Heffernan:Yeah, no, I mean, we love it cuz like, we'll do that too. Like when we would go from movie to movie and intentionally try to put guys into different kinds of characters, Uhhuh, , you know, and, and, and that was the reason why. Cause we thought it was so fun to see guys do different things. I mean, this movie's a great example because we do play multiple parts and guys play different kind of characters. But after we shot Supert Troopers, like for example like Jay Chanter Sekar who directed it, you know, and it was a hard thing. It's a hard thing to direct a movie, you know, it was just kind of for a million bucks and whatever, and you're always, you know, fighting the clock and you're always fighting whatever. And so he would always kind of get dower at times, you know, and, and we'd have to remind him in his performance, Hey man, pick it up.You know, we're doing a comedy, don't worry about that. Put that shit behind you. Whatever. Uhhuh . And so after Supert Troopers, you know, his character is a very straight kind of guy. We made a movie called Club Dread, and it was like, let's go in the opposite direction. And we intentionally wrote Jay as like a Ponzi, British raaf, Farian tennis player, Uhhuh . And so with the intention of like, let's give him a character that's completely opposite of what he was. Right. And it ends up having the effect of being very cool, I think for people who like the movies cuz they see people play different kinds of characters, you know,Michael Jamin:But how do you guys even do that with five, because you have five equal partners writing. Like how do you decide who comes, is one person pitching an idea? How do you get five people on board to do anything?Kevin Heffernan:It's, it's pretty hard. I think it's, I think we're lucky that we started doing it together in college. Probably like, if, if we had been assembled like in, you know, at age 35 or whatever, never fucking made, it was like, you know, it's like putting a like a, like a like the monkeys together or something, or whatever, you know what I mean? I, I don't know that we would ever have been able to do that. Cuz yeah, there's fights and whatever, but I I I think it's really always come out of making each other laugh. And if, and if the rest of the guys laugh, then you're like, oh, okay. I I think that's, and you know, and, and the cra fights, you know, from casting point of view, we started getting into this practice and we did it from Super Troopers on where, for the most part, we don't cast the movie when we're writing it. And we don't cast the movie till way later in the game because you, you find out that, you know, if you know what the part you're playing, then you kind of start writing for yourself and your own part. But if you don't know, then you write for everybody. Right?Michael Jamin:Oh, is that right? So, yeah.Kevin Heffernan:And so we made a very conscious effort early on that we would push, like, there, there are sometimes now like movie quasi, you know Lemi, we knew Lemi was gonna be the title character, but I think most of our movies, it's like we wait till later in the game after the script has gone through multiple drafts, and then we cast it. AndMichael Jamin:Then how do you decide who, I mean, how do you, what if I wanna be theKevin Heffernan:Whatever that happens too. I mean, we, we I remember Super Troopers, you know, we wrote it, we wrote Mel multiple drafts. It was with many different companies and there are many different places, and we never really cast it. And then we decided we would sit down and we, the five of us, we sat down at a table and everyone read the different parts. And then it was a conversation. It's like, you know, I think, I think you're that guy, you know? And and luckily there was never a, a big fight. And then now it's like, you know, like in the movie quasi, there's a couple characters and it was like, Hey, I thought, you know, soda, you should be that guy and Jay should be this guy. And they were like, nah, no, you know, I think he'd be much better at that guy. You know, and they were right. You know, so it was like, it kind of, it's the mindset of what's doing best for the movie, which is nice. Right. right. And so we've never really gotten into those big fights because we just cast it later, you know? Is thereMichael Jamin:A procedure though, when you guys do? Is there like a vote? Or like, how do you, how do you agree to settle shit?Kevin Heffernan:Yeah, I mean, I think like, usually it's, I guess it's the director who's kind of settles it, but it, it, no, it's just, it's just by side who's the director by democracy , becauseMichael Jamin:You guys have also also, you know, swapped sometimes, you know, you direct sometimes, you know, sometimes Jay directs andKevin Heffernan:Yeah. I mean, I guess we've done like seven seven kind of proper broken legend movies and he's directed five of them. Yeah. And I've done two of themMichael Jamin:Now. Since you've done two, I don't know why you do two. Isn't it exhausting? I mean it's, it's exhaust, it's a full-time job being a director, but then to also act Yeah. It's, it's twice as exhausting.Kevin Heffernan:Yeah. It's, it's, it is kind of exhausting. And you know, the funny thing on this movie I played two characters. We all played two characters, right? Mm-Hmm. . And there's, there was some days where my two characters were having scenes with each other. Yeah. And like, you're standing there and you're like, you're acting against yourself and you're directing the thing. Yeah. And it was just like, you're like, what the fuck? Like, your head's gonna fucking explode. You're like, what am I doing here? ? And like, the beauty of it is we have these five guys, we have the support thing. And so Lemi will be there, Chan Sa I'll be there and they'll be like, Hey, you know, you should look, look out for this or whatever. You know, there's a good support group where Right. Luckily you're not, you're not hanging out there alone.Michael Jamin:And you've directed many episodes of Tacoma FD Do, how much do you, you know, what do you, what do you think, do you, what is your, what do you prefer writing, directing, acting? Do you have a preference?Kevin Heffernan:I don't know. I, I always think of it as like as like the seasons, you know, it's like whenever it's winter you want it to be summer, or whenever it's summer you wanna be winter. Yeah. Like, I always feel that way. Like whenever I'm doing one of the jobs, I'm like, God, I wish I was writing right now. Yeah. . But I mean, I think that's the beauty of the, the hyphen thing. It's like, you know, it's like you know, I just got through the editing process, right? And then which is a whole thing. And, and, and then by the, we've been doing six months and then by the end of that you're like, Ugh. And now you know, we're working on a project with you mm-hmm. , and we're working on a project with the Republican lizard guys. And you start moving back into the writing mode and you're like, oh, thank God this is fucking great. Right? Yeah. Yeah. And then whatever, three months from now they're like, God, I wish I was shooting. You know, ,Michael Jamin:It's a shooting is ex especially being directory is exhausting. You gotta be the first one there and the last one out.Kevin Heffernan:Yeah. And then you gotta prepare for the next day. You gotta prepare. You should, at least you should, you know.Michael Jamin:Yeah.Kevin Heffernan:You know, but a again, like, you know, part of it that's nice is the all-encompassing kind of thing of it where it's like I don't necessarily have to expend all the director energy directing an actor mm-hmm. , because I'm doing it. And I don't have to spend, I don't spend a lot of energy translating between a writer and a director and an actor. Which also is a, I think a lot of a director's job is these kind of like interpersonal mm-hmm. , you know, figuring out how to do that because we kind of do it all, you know, so there's something kind of nice to that, you know.Michael Jamin:Yeah. Well, I guess, I mean, and I, again, I give you a lot of credit. It's cuz it'sKevin Heffernan:Well, but like, when you, when you're having a problem on the set, for example, right? Mm-Hmm. and then you know, some scenes not working or whatever it is, and you're in the middle of it as the actor writer and the director, you just kind of cart blanche to, to try to fix it. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's not like you have to bring a committee together to try to fix something, you know? Right. There's something nice to that there's something nice to that.Michael Jamin:Do you, now, this Tacoma was pretty much your first was your, was it was your first TV venture, but now, you know, I know, I, I knowKevin Heffernan:How it was. Yeah. I mean, it was the first one that went, you know, like Yeah. The thing is that Lemy and I, you know, for many years, and you know, this, I mean, for many years we, we had been making TV or developing TV shows and selling scripts and Yeah. And you can go there. I mean, I think we sold a different script, like something like eight years in a row mm-hmm. Into, into TV season, you know what I mean? Right. And they just don't go, they don't go, they don't go for whatever reason. You know, like I remember one year we sold one to I think it was B, c and we were so excited about it, and then we found out that they bought 80 scripts. Oh, . Yes. And they're, and they're gonna shoot three of them. Right. Right. And what we found out was that these networks a lot of times will just kind of preemtively buy scripts Yeah. In order to be able to control the market. And, and it doesn't cost them a lot just to have a bunch of things you know, options. Yeah. And then, you know, you're, oh fuck. So I, I think as time went on, we were trying to figure out like, what's, how do you get to the next step? Like how do you write the TV script that they're gonna shoot?Michael Jamin:Yeah.Kevin Heffernan:You know? Mm-Hmm.Michael Jamin:, what did you figure out? I mean,Kevin Heffernan:Well, it, it's partly who you do business with. So like when we pitched com, we pitched everybody, we pitched the big networks and the little networks and you know, the one that they were the most excited about and the most that you got the vibe that this, they're gonna shoot, this thing was true tv.Michael Jamin:Right.Kevin Heffernan:And, you know, we could have sold it to Fox or whoever it is, but we knew that those people were gonna shoot it. And that's the battle.Michael Jamin:They told you that. I mean, some orKevin Heffernan:Essentially, I mean, it's like we, you can also know, like, you can say, you can find out how many they buy. Right. And out of those, how many they shoot, and out of those, how many get on the air and, and somebody like True who's a smaller network, they can't go out and buy 80 scripts. You know what I mean? Right. So what they do is they'll, they'll buy three scripts and you know that you have a damn good chance if it's three scripts, you know,Michael Jamin:We would, when we sold shows back on network, you'd be optimistic at first, and then you'd read in the trades what someone else sold the show, maybe with some actor attach or director. And you'd go, all right, that's one less slot. You, you just knew it, you just knew that's one less thought to buy. Yeah.Kevin Heffernan:Yeah. And then you get to things like, let me and I were talk about this morning, we were like trying to remember, there was a a, we sold a script one year about stay-at-home dads. Right. I think it was called Kept Men and the Stay-Home Dads. And our wives had great jobs and we, we would just stay at home, take care of the kids, whatever. And it's an idea that everyone has had. And I remember we, we sold it somewhere, I can't remember, it was N B C or B ABC or whatever it was. And then we found out, I think it was B nbc, we found out that there were three other stay-at-home dads scripts that had sold Uhhuh to nbc. And then we found out that like, you know, one of the producers was Jimmy Fallon, one of the producers was Ellen, you know, one of the, it was, you know, whoever. And you knew then that your fortunes are getting, you know, less favorable. Yeah. And then ultimately they pick one of those, you know, they're an nbc they're gonna pick the Jimmy Fallon project mm-hmm. . Cause Jimmy Fon is one of their superstars. And, and, and, and you know, so your, your discouragement kind of goes down as he gone. But that was always the thing was like, how do you get from the point where you sell that script to you make that script, which is really why we're in this business.Michael Jamin:Yeah. Right. And and your eyes are higher. Well, it's, it's, so, it's, I was, I would, I was gonna say your eyes are higher up getting a TV show made than a movie, but you've gotten a movies made. So what am I doing? Yeah.Kevin Heffernan:I mean, I, I guess it depends on what the market has been. I mean, they're just, sometimes, I, I only say that because I feel like it's shifting a little bit again now, but there's certainly, you know, when the streamers came in on top of the broadcast people, there were more opportunities, I feel like mm-hmm. . And at that point the films were shrinking for a number of reasons, just that it's so expensive to put a movie out. Yeah. you know, that, that as the movie companies get bigger they will not take chances on certain comedies. You know, like we, when we made Beer Fest at Warner Brothers, we were like, why don't you guys just make a shitload of, you know, 15 million comedies and try to make a lot of money outta 'em? And then cuz they said, cuz we'll make one Harry Potter and it'll make more money than 115 million comedies. Right. Everyone'sMichael Jamin:Swinging for theKevin Heffernan:Home run. Yeah. And, and that's why, and that's what we'll do. And so there was a lot of that vibe. So I think that's part of why, you know, we were like, you know, let's take a shot at tv. There's a, there's a better home for comedy. You know, at that point, I think. Yeah. and it, and it was, you know, and, and when we sent up for True tv, you know, their, their motto has kind of changed. But at the time they were trying to build a comedy network and they had Andrea Savage and Amy Sedaris and, you know, Bobcat Golf Weight and all these guys had shows. Yeah. And they were, that they were trying to make these comedy shows. So it seemed like a good, a good fit for us.Michael Jamin:And I had a question, I just now now I just lost it, but, oh, I was gonna say. So, but you also have acted on other, you've guest art on plenty other, on other shows, Goldberg, but Yeah. Do you, but do you prefer, like, do you have a preference even, I don't know, doing other people's material, your material? Do you care at all?Kevin Heffernan:I, I, I don't mind people's material, but I love writing our material and doing our material. You know, it's like, it's like the, it's like the standup thing. It's like, you know, the beauty of doing standup is that you can write a joke and then perform the joke and get the reaction from the crowd. I, I kind of feel the same way about performing our own material, you know?Michael Jamin:But I know you and you guys used to do a lot of performing standup, but you don't, you haven't done that in quite a while and you don't, what's the plan? Do you miss that at all or what?Kevin Heffernan:Sometimes I do. Sometimes I do. You know, I think it was something that we I mean some of the guys in our group have a background like, you know, chance Sakar has, you know, stand background or whatever. But I had never had it really. And then it was that last, it was the last writer strike whatever, 2008, 2009, whatever was that, when was that? Like,Michael Jamin:It was 2008. What? Yeah. What did you guys do during that?Kevin Heffernan:Well, we were, you know, we had made our movie of Slam and Salmon and we had to make it independently cuz no studios were buying. And then, you know, nobody's making a TV shows. We couldn't sell anything. We couldn't write anything. And so we had one of these kind of live standup agents who was like, look, you guys have notoriety now. You can go around and do a show, you know? Yeah. And, and make money. You know. And so it was like, oh, okay. And so we put together this show in, I think it was 2008 or 2009, you know, come in, in the strike. And we went on tour and we did whatever, I, I can't remember, we did like 20 or 30 show cities or whatever it was. And and it was like it, it, it, it kind of morphed over time.But it was like, you know, we would put our Supert Troopers uniforms on and go do a supert trooper sketch mm-hmm. . And then a guy would do, you know, 10 minutes of standup and then we'd do a beer fest sketch and then guys would do 10 minutes of standup and then whatever. And so I think that was when the vibe for live comedy for us kind of really grew. We were like, oh, this is great. This is cool. And there's an audience. Like there's a, there are fans of ours. It's not like we have to go Yeah. TheyMichael Jamin:Come see you. Yeah.Kevin Heffernan:Yeah. Like we used to go and, you know, walk around Washington Square Park and hand out fucking postcards. Come see our show, come see our show come now. We don't have to do that. You know? So Isn't that amazing? That was nice. And so then that's why we got into standup cuz cuz we started doing that. And then I, I had never really done standup and I had a blast. And then it got to be the end of that tour. And then it was, the agent was like, does any of you guys, you guys still wanna go do some standup? I'll book you. And then lemme like, yeah, we'd love to. Let's do it. And so we went probably for eight or nine years we traveled.Michael Jamin:Now when you were doing this, were you literally on the road? Were you on the road the whole time? Were, were you fly back and forth to California?Kevin Heffernan:No, no. We were like you know, 40 year old guy standups, you know, it's like if we were the 20 year old standups, we would be like in a car driving around, but we would No, you'd go out, you'd do two weekends a month or whatever, you know, and you'd go out and you'd do, you know, a Thursday, Friday, Saturday showsMichael Jamin:And then flyKevin Heffernan:Back. And then fly back. Yeah. Yeah. And so but you know, probably eight or nine years we did it, you know, we would do, you know, I don't know, maybe 20 weekends in a year.Michael Jamin:Hey, it's Michael Jamin, if you like my videos and you want me to email them to you for free, join my watch list. Every Friday I send out my top three videos. These are for writers, actors, creative types. You can unsubscribe whenever you want. I'm not gonna spam you and it's absolutely free. Just go to michaeljamin.com/watchlist.It's, it's so interesting. I again, cuz you guys are just like, when I hear so many times, you're like, people are like, well, how do I sell my screenplay? And my voice is always, you don't and just do what you're, build it yourself, do it. Stop asking for permission, and that's exactly what you guys did. You just did it.Kevin Heffernan:Yeah.Michael Jamin:You know?Kevin Heffernan:Yeah. I mean, that's the same advice that we give people too. It's like, you know, and whatever the, the, the kind of the world changes a little and you know you know, there are different ways to do your own thing. You know, I mean, when we started, people didn't have camera phones or Right. , you could haveMichael Jamin:Made that movieKevin Heffernan:Equipment or you know,Michael Jamin:You instead of 250,000 you could have made that movie Yeah. For a fraction of that. Right?Kevin Heffernan:Yeah. Yeah. And, and so people, I think people do have that opportunity and, and, you know, they can go shoot a movie on their phone or whatever it is. And I mean, in that way, you, you at least learn how to write and act and where to put a camera and how maybe how to light something or whatever. Its Right. Right. but that, that's what we always say to people is, is do that. You know, write your own stuff and go do it.Michael Jamin:Do you find, because I mean, I'm jumping around here, but you ob you collaborate a lot either with five or four other guys, or sometimes you work with Lemy or with the writing set. Is it, you know, do you find that you don't, that you know, you don't really get to use your voice that you're always, it's, it's more collaborative? Do you miss or do you crave doing something just with your own voice or anything?Kevin Heffernan:I don't know. I never thought about that. No, I don't think so. No. I like, I like the collaboration thing. Right. I, I don't, I mean, whatever we've worked together for, what, four years now? I don't, I'm not super precious. I, I, and I, I I'm not like a dig my heels in guy I don't think. Maybe I am, maybe you'll tell me differently. But I think, you know, I think I, I, I like, I love getting, you know, seeing other people write some good jokes and whatever. Right, right. It's a, and I think it's probably born out of the fact that I've always been in a group, you know, and I've always been with these five, you know, I was with these five guys and, you know, you learn the value of having other people's perspectives and whatever. So I, I don't know. I, you know, I like standup. I, I, I really enjoyed it and it was fun and it was fun to go and tell stories and whatever, but I, you know, I don't know if there's something I I like more about, probably about the TV or movie worldMichael Jamin:Because even directing, like as a showrunner, you could, you still have ultimate the final say on anything. So if you had someone else direct, you do, I know you have other people direct episodes, but I wonder like, you know, why, I guess why, you know, what's the, what's the appeal of doing it yourself when you still have ultimate control anyway?Kevin Heffernan:Right. Right. You mean like, why not have more people?Michael Jamin:Yeah, I mean I, no, I, IKevin Heffernan:Just think, well that's, that's, youMichael Jamin:Know, exhausting. It is. That's,Kevin Heffernan:That's O C D and control and control issues, Michael.Michael Jamin:Oh, so that's why you, cuz you really want, you just want to get it done. YouKevin Heffernan:Well, no, that's what my kids will say. They'll say that I have control issues. That's right. May, that may be the case that I, I like to do things myself, but,Michael Jamin:Oh, well. But, but, but that's what that kind of speaks to what I'm talking about is like, okay, well you're do you are getting your voice across cuz you ultimately making, well, you know, so many decisions. But yeah. And so I don't know what, what advice do you have for, for young people breaking in? Do you, you know, are you getting swarm by this? You know?Kevin Heffernan:Yeah. It, I mean, you know, it happens. I mean, you get it right? You get people and they wanna send you. IMichael Jamin:Get it. But you, I'm, I think you might get different questions from me. You're, you're, well, IKevin Heffernan:Guess, I guess other, you know, I mean, yeah, I get other questions.Michael Jamin:You get recognize you walk on the street and people know who you are andKevin Heffernan:So Yeah. How do I become an actor, you know, and get that. Yeah. And, you know and it's hard. Like I, you know, I try to help people out, but I, you know, you know, there's not, there's like a, some sort magic bullet. Like, you know, guys in this industry, I mean, no matter how long you've been there, you me, every day we try to figure out how to keep our careers going. Mm-Hmm. You know what I mean? , it's like, yeah. It's like I got enough trouble, you know, trying to get what I, you know, I don't know what my next project is, you know? Right. And, and it's and every, it's a fight. I don't care if you're Martin Scorsese or whatever, it's always a fucking fight. Yeah. And so, you know, you try to impress it on people, but you don't wanna be, you know, the doom and gloom guy.You know, I, I, I did a, our buddy who's a producer, rich Perlo, who produced these our movies, he teaches a class at Columbia and, you know, LUMY and I zoomed into the class the other day and there's a lot of those questions, you know, and, and I, we got off and I was trying, I said to him, God, I'm to Rich who teaches the class. I said, I'm really sorry. I hope we didn't come across as these doom and gloom guys. Cuz we, you know, our point was it's very hard and you gotta work hard and nobody's gonna give it to you. Mm-Hmm. , you know, there's like all these kind of like, you know, myths of you know, being discovered this, that, the other thing. But it's like, you know, we've been pushing the rock up the hill for, for many, many years. Yeah. And it's just accumulation of relationships and experiences and whatever that kind of get you going that way. You know,Michael Jamin:It's, it's, yeah. Sometimes people say to me though, they wanna send me scripts. I, I'm not the guy, I I'm not the gatekeeper. I'm not the guy. I'm, I'm the same guy as you are. Try Kevin Heffernan:Trying to Yeah. You want me to do, you know, I mean, and, and you know, like you can't read their script cuz then you do violate various kind of legal things, you know?Michael Jamin:Yeah. I'm not doing that. Yeah.Kevin Heffernan:Yeah. And I remember the first time we ran into that, I think we we had just gone to college and Jay and I wrote like all these spec jokes and sent 'em to the Letterman show. Mm-Hmm. . And they just, and you, like four days later you get the envelope back unopened. Yeah. with a return to sender thing on it. And there's a, a form letter, it says, we do not read unsolicited material, you know? Yep. Oh,Michael Jamin:That's, that's the end ofKevin Heffernan:That. And so that's, you can't even, you can't do it that way. So you just have to work. And I, I tell these guys also, you know, you think about some of the people who work with us, like in our writer's room, right? It's like we have this great woman Hannah who she, you know, wants to be a writer and she wants, or at least wants to work in the industry. And, and you know, we said, well, you know, you can start, you know, at the bottom. That's how, that's how you do it. You know. And so she came and she was, you know, an intern unpaid for a while, and then she was a pa and she worked right up and da blah da. And then, you know, she got to do some stuff in our writer's room, you know, essentially the secretarial elements of it, you know, which she did last year. And and that's the way you do it. You know, you start at the grunt level and then you make relationships and you keep going, , you work yourMichael Jamin:Way, right? People wanna start at the top, Mike, you don't get to start at the top. You gotta start. No.Kevin Heffernan:And you meet all the people on the way up. You know, the guy who is my, now my, my PR guy, my PR agent, who's a pre reputable guy in the business now. He's like, I don't know if you remember, I met you, you know, many years ago. And I was like, is that right? And he goes, yeah, I was an assistant on the desk of this producer mm-hmm. that you guys are doing a project with. And you would come to the office and you'd like, oh. And he said, you're very nice to me. And I, I was like, oh, glad, I'm glad to hear that. Yes. and . Now here's that guy. He's, you know, this big PR guy who, you know is very successful in the business, you know? So it, it's just, you know, there's no way that people are gonna put their script in there and become this, you know, the next Oscar winner until they work theirMichael Jamin:Right pe people are gonna think that you have listened to me talk on social media. And I know for a fact you haven't because you're saying that I've already said, which is Oh, okay. You know, I told a story as well where I was, I can't, we were going to pitch a show and the person we're meeting with is young executive. He goes, you know, we, we've met before. And I'm like, oh no. I'm like, cause I don't remember the guy. And I'm like, already, I just tanked the meeting. And he goes, yeah, I was a, I worked on a desk and you were nice to me. And I was like, oh, thank God. You know, you gotta be nice to people cuz they, you've gotta be nice to people cuz they're not gonna stay in that deskKevin Heffernan:Correctly. That's why I tell everyone, you wanna know the key to Hollywood, be nice to the assistance. Yes. Because they're, they are the gatekeepers and then ultimately they will move on to other jobs. Yeah. So they benefit you in many different ways, but if you're just a nice personMichael Jamin:Yeah, I say that as well. Don't kiss my ass, kiss the ass of the assistant. They're the ones I'm gettingKevin Heffernan:The door.Michael Jamin:Yeah. I'm not gonna help you. But they might help you.Kevin Heffernan:But then it's all, you know, whatever. It's all relationships. We, you know, I, like you said, I didn't do a, we'd never made a TV show before, you know? And we relied on certain people like you to help us do that. SoMichael Jamin:Now, and now you don't need us anymore. But don't, don't.Kevin Heffernan:Well I, I like to, I like to have you though.Michael Jamin:You like to have my little nap, littleKevin Heffernan:Laptop. No. You know, it's funny, I, I vividly remember that meeting that we first had with you guys. Yeah. And we, we were at day, we were at we were at the three arts offices. Yep. And and I remember this cuz I was like, you know, let me and I, and you know, maybe you've come to realize it, but lemme and I were, were a little bit more insecure about our knowledge about how to make a TV show cuz we hadn't done it before. Right. And and I remember I kept in the meeting, we would have conversations like, he would keep saying things like well I don't know cause we only make movies, you know, I don't know. Cause we gonna make movies. I kept saying that. And what I was trying to say was, I don't know anything about tv. Right. But then your partner Sievert, he, he threw that back in my face. . At one point he said something he said, but I don't know cause I only make tv, you know. Oh my God. That's the funniest fucking thing. I thought it was so fucking funny. Michael Jamin:Oh, thank God he didn't tank the meeting.Kevin Heffernan:No, no. I mean, I, I thought it was hysterical because that's exactly how it sounded. Uhhuh . But but we all knew what we were really saying to each other. You know what I mean? Right, right. But good cause you know, he, he made a joke of it and I thought that was very funny. I I always remember that. I alwaysMichael Jamin:Think about that. Oh, that's so funny. Cause he, he'd be embarrassed. I think if you, if you mentioned that we had a meeting once, I don't wanna say what it was, but it was not a, it was on a Disney show and you know, and he didn't want the job, but it was a job. And and he tanked. Siver tanked. He didn't mean to, he just kept on putting his foot what wasn'tKevin Heffernan:Intentional tanking.Michael Jamin:Right. He was not intentional tanking . And, and actually thank God he did. Because after that we got What did he do?Kevin Heffernan:Like what did you do to tank it? Like what was it, was he just saying bad shit?Michael Jamin:He was trying to, he was trying to be not, he was basically saying, how do you know if this is funny? Like, he's basically saying, none of this is funny to me. How do you know if it's funny?Kevin Heffernan:Okay.Michael Jamin:That's coming out. And it was just the funniest thing. And he was trying to cover up and, and I was trying to help him dig outta this hole. And it was just getting worse . And afterwards he felt terrible. He felt, cuz it's not what he was trying to do, he just felt terrible about it. But it worked out for the best.Kevin Heffernan:And you clearly did not get the job.Michael Jamin:We did not get the job. No one, only an idiot would hire after that job. But and I, I didn't make him feel bad. He felt terrible. But I was like, don't, don't worry about it. This is not the job for us.Kevin Heffernan:. . See, you don't want it. Like, if they don't get, you know, you don't wantMichael Jamin:Yeah, it was, it was a, it was very awkward. But we doKevin Heffernan:That in a lot in our careers though. Like, I feel like there was certainly, and certainly in that time period I talked about where we were just selling, you know, TV scripts. You re you think about like, I I just want to, I just need to make some money. I need to do this. I need you going to get this door and whatever. And then, I don't know, there, I think that point in time where we started doing standup and whatever, I was just like, ah, fuck, fuck it man. I can't, we had been hired so many times to write scripts for people and, and you know, it didn't go anywhere that they, you're like, what the fuck, who the fuck is this person giving me comedy notes? Mm-Hmm. . And finally you're like, Ugh, I don't wanna do that anymore. Yeah, yeah. I just wanna make a TV show.Michael Jamin:Yeah. And, and, and, and you get, you know, it's actually, I I think it's, it's more gra I don't know, I say this never having made a movie, but I don't know. It's like you get to shoot it, you write it and then you shoot it and then it's up in the air in a matter of months. And they get Yeah. You could do work in film, not you guys, but most people work in film and they never get a, you know, anything shot. They can have aKevin Heffernan:. Yeah. I mean that's the Yeah. But that, that's, that's also the weird thing about movies too. And, well, it's a little different when these movies now this, this streaming stuff is just a little bit different. It's, it is a little bit more in the TV world, but movies are kind of like gotta, I don't wanna sound like a, I'm shitting on it or whatever, but I, it's, I love it. But there is like this thing with this, this buildup and you've worked on this thing for years and then it gets to that first weekend and then that's it. Whether it's, you know, successful or not successful, you're done.Michael Jamin:It's all about opening weekend.Kevin Heffernan:Yeah. It's over. Like, you know, like, there's not like a, and I'm not saying that in a bad way, I'm just saying it's like, it's like, it's like kinda stepping off a cliff, you know what I mean? And then you're done. Like tv, the beauty of like Tacoma 13 weeks in a row, you got in something new story that's coming out.Michael Jamin:Right. And it can buildKevin Heffernan:And it can build and it's a new thing. ButMichael Jamin:Never whatKevin Heffernan:Understood that finite thing, you know?Michael Jamin:But I never understood that with a box office. If you tank on your opening weekend, like, well why can't it build, grow? Like why can't it grow in the second weekend? Why can't, the word of mouthKevin Heffernan:Why can, and it does at times, but it doesn't ma like the, the metric the bar is, is how you do in that first weekend. So like,Michael Jamin:That's what you're measured up. But why don't they consider the overall gross? I mean, I don't, you know.Kevin Heffernan:Yeah. I, it just, it doesn't know. I don't know. Cause it, it just, it's all pushed by that opening weekend. You know, like our, like our movie like Super Troopers. It did, you know, it did okay. It did nothing. Nobody who we were. But you know, it was at the height of the kind of DVD era, which is they were, you know, printing money in that era. This movie studios were. Yeah. And we would see, you know, quarterly reports for, you know, Fox or whatever and Super Troopers would be listed in them cuz it would be making so much money for them. Yeah. Not in theatrical, but on the DVD market. Right. And you're like, well, why aren't we though? You know, the guys that you sing about. And it's, it's cuz it's still the industry still driven by opening weekend.Michael Jamin:It's so Still is. Yeah. Because it became a cult hit. I mean, you guys are, you know, you really have a, a cult following. I mean, and then loyal, you know, they, they show up you're fans.Kevin Heffernan:Yeah. And so that, that was the great thing. So this trailer came out and in the first 24 hours at 8 million views.Michael Jamin:Is that right? Yeah. How did, how did that now where did they drop where? Okay. How does that work when they drop a trailer on the, we&#

Pod Crashing Episode 196 With Janet Varney And Dante Basco From Nickelodeon's Avatar The Last Airbender Janet Varney is an Emmy-Nominated actor, comedian, writer and producer. In the animation world, she's the award-winning voice of Korra on Nickelodeon's (now on Netflix) The Legend of Korra. On Hulu, she can be seen fighting dark forces opposite John C. McGinley in Stan Against Evil and as the entitled Becca on FXX's You're the Worst. She also created, wrote, produced and starred in the critically-acclaimed IFC online series Fortune Rookie. For the past 8 years, JV has hosted her podcast The JV Club with Janet Varney, where she interviews celebrities about their awkward teenage years. JV can also be heard as the AI "Sorry" on the improvised sci-fi comedy podcast Voyage to the Stars. Dante Basco was first introduced in Steve Spielberg's fairytale movie Hook, as "Rufio", the leader of the Lost Boys. Recently, Dante starred in Newline's Take the Lead, opposite Antonio Banderas, and starred in a pilot for Touchstone/ABC, The Chang Family Saves the World, written and produced by John Ridley and directed by Paris Barclay. He is also the new voice of Disney's animated series American Dragon: Jake Long, as well as the voice of villain Prince Zuko in Nickelodeon's Avatar: The Last Airbender. Dante has also starred in his share of feature films: Biker Boyz (with Laurence Fishburne, Kid Rock and Derek Luke), Naked Brown Men

Pod Crashing Episode 196 With Janet Varney And Dante Basco From Nickelodeon's Avatar The Last Airbender Janet Varney is an Emmy-Nominated actor, comedian, writer and producer. In the animation world, she's the award-winning voice of Korra on Nickelodeon's (now on Netflix) The Legend of Korra. On Hulu, she can be seen fighting dark forces opposite John C. McGinley in Stan Against Evil and as the entitled Becca on FXX's You're the Worst. She also created, wrote, produced and starred in the critically-acclaimed IFC online series Fortune Rookie. For the past 8 years, JV has hosted her podcast The JV Club with Janet Varney, where she interviews celebrities about their awkward teenage years. JV can also be heard as the AI "Sorry" on the improvised sci-fi comedy podcast Voyage to the Stars. Dante Basco was first introduced in Steve Spielberg's fairytale movie Hook, as "Rufio", the leader of the Lost Boys. Recently, Dante starred in Newline's Take the Lead, opposite Antonio Banderas, and starred in a pilot for Touchstone/ABC, The Chang Family Saves the World, written and produced by John Ridley and directed by Paris Barclay. He is also the new voice of Disney's animated series American Dragon: Jake Long, as well as the voice of villain Prince Zuko in Nickelodeon's Avatar: The Last Airbender. Dante has also starred in his share of feature films: Biker Boyz (with Laurence Fishburne, Kid Rock and Derek Luke), Naked Brown Men

The Two Cents Plus Tax podcast's Krystal Farmer is back, and we picked her a good one this time -- to everyone's surprise! ABC's new Soderberghian con-fam rom-com isn't perfect, but it's cast really well, has good romantic andfamilial chemistry, and seems to think it's on premium cable, and for whatever reason, it works for us. (And so, for a change, does Sarah Callies!) After a list of mostly favorable comparisons to other heist shows, we went Around The Dial with Canadian hotel TV, Hunters, The 12th Victim, and Picard before Mlle. Caroline checked the Canon's motion sensors with the pilot episode of Leverage. Poker Face won, FX and On Hulu lost, and Pottsy is fine -- at writing games around actresses' IMDb entries. Finish RSVPing for the Aldis Hodge Appreciation Society banquet later; it's time for an all-new Extra Hot Great. GUESTS

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Bernardo's No Fool We have a great time getting to know Bernardo Badillo this week on the FSF PopCast. Bernardo sits down with us, not just to talk about his two most recent projects - This Fool, On Hulu - and a film called Emily the Criminal - but also to talk about his career, and how he got into acting some years ago. We talk about specific roles he's had, like portraying a NYPD Scuba Diver in the Movie Sully, with Tom Hanks, for example. We talk about how participating in numerous school plays and pageants, singing and dancing helped him reach out for his career and ultimately being willing to try out for different roles and not allowing himself to being boxed into any one role. For more on Bernardo Badillo, please visit the following - Instagram - @actorbernardobadillo Facebook - Bernardo Badillo For RSWOF Merch - https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/31938193-rswof?store_id=1397534 100% of all proceeds Benefit Wish Upon a Teen For direct contributions - www.wishuponateen.org Join our Discord! https://discord.gg/cpry4fCDTq FSF PopCast on Twitter and Instagram - @fsfpopcast Buy us Coffee - https://ko-fi.com/fsfpopcast For more on our show partners - Bridgework Studios - https://www.teepublic.com/user/bridgework-studios Level Up Sabers - https://shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=2018189&u=3289465&m=124959&urllink=&afftrack= Support The FSF PopCast by contributing to their tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/funny-science-fiction

Bernardo's No Fool We have a great time getting to know Bernardo Badillo this week on the FSF PopCast. Bernardo sits down with us, not just to talk about his two most recent projects - This Fool, On Hulu - and a film called Emily the Criminal - but also to talk about his career, and how he got into acting some years ago. We talk about specific roles he's had, like portraying a NYPD Scuba Diver in the Movie Sully, with Tom Hanks, for example. We talk about how participating in numerous school plays and pageants, singing and dancing helped him reach out for his career and ultimately being willing to try out for different roles and not allowing himself to being boxed into any one role. For more on Bernardo Badillo, please visit the following - Instagram - @actorbernardobadillo Facebook - Bernardo Badillo For RSWOF Merch - https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/31938193-rswof?store_id=1397534 100% of all proceeds Benefit Wish Upon a Teen For direct contributions - www.wishuponateen.org Join our Discord! https://discord.gg/cpry4fCDTq FSF PopCast on Twitter and Instagram - @fsfpopcast Buy us Coffee - https://ko-fi.com/fsfpopcast For more on our show partners - Bridgework Studios - https://www.teepublic.com/user/bridgework-studios Level Up Sabers - https://shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=2018189&u=3289465&m=124959&urllink=&afftrack= Support The FSF PopCast by contributing to their tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/funny-science-fiction

In this week's episode the gang links up to cover: - | Pop Culture & Music | - Bad Bunny kissing his male backup dancer at the VMA's (4:30), MSNBC anchor Ari Melber breaking down Jay Z's new verse on Khaleds ‘God Did'(13:30), Leo breaking up with his 25 year old girlfriend(s) (27:00), The Vince Staples Show coming to Netflix (33:15), Dan Schneider Nickelodeon show runner being accused of abuse (37:00), wild Tiffany Haddish allegations (43:10), Adam22 on Joe Budden and creating murder content (45:30) - | News | - Bed bath and beyond CFO leaps to his death after scamming allegations (59:00), Ravil Maganov the Russian oil giant thrown out of 6 story hospital window (1:03:00), Mississippi underwater (1:09:00), permanent chemicals in human bodies (1:15:31), Equifax miss-reporting people's credit scores (1:18:00) - | Content | - Megan thee Stallion on She hulk (1:20:55), the Netflix And 1 basketball documentary series (1:28:00), the new Lord of the Rings on Amazon (1:32:45), House of Dragons on HBO (1:42:40), Mike Tyson's stolen story 'Mike!' On Hulu (1:53:50), The Elvis movie (1:56:50), and share final thoughts (2:00:00) linktr.ee/dippedinnonsense

JANET VARNEY BIOJanet Varney is an Emmy-Nominated actor, comedian, writer and producer. In the animation world, she's the award-winning voice of Korra on Nickelodeon's (now on Netflix) The Legend of Korra. On Hulu, she can be seen fighting dark forces opposite John C. McGinley in Stan Against Evil and as the entitled Becca on FXX's You're the Worst. She also created, wrote, produced and starred in the critically-acclaimed IFC online series Fortune Rookie. For the past 8 years, JV has hosted her podcast The JV Club with Janet Varney, where she interviews celebrities about their awkward teenage years. JV can also be heard as the AI "Sorry" on the improvised sci-fi comedy podcast Voyage to the Stars. On the development and production side, Janet co-created, co-wrote and co-produced Neil's Puppet Dreams, a series featuring Neil Patrick Harris and his puppet-filled dreams. She is co-founder/creative director/producer of one of the largest and most acclaimed comedy festivals in North America, SF Sketchfest: the San Francisco Comedy Festival, now in its 20th year.DANTE BASCO BIODante Basco was first introduced in Steve Spielberg's fairytale movie Hook, as "Rufio", the leader of the Lost Boys. Recently, Dante starred in Newline's Take the Lead, opposite Antonio Banderas, and starred in a pilot for Touchstone/ABC, The Chang Family Saves the World, written and produced by John Ridley and directed by Paris Barclay. He is also the new voice of Disney's animated series American Dragon: Jake Long, as well as the voice of villain Prince Zuko in Nickelodeon'sAvatar: The Last Airbender. Dante has also starred in his share of feature films: Biker Boyz (with Laurence Fishburne, Kid Rock and Derek Luke), Naked Brown Men (which he co-produced and stars in with his brothers), Extreme Days, But I'm a Cheerleader (with Natasha Lyonne, Cathy Moriarty and Clea Duvall), The Debut, Fakin' Da Funk (with Pam Greer and Tatiana Ali), Rave, and Showtime's critically acclaimed Riot - just to name a few. Dante has also appeared on Entourage, The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, Nash Bridges, Touched by an Angel, Providence, Hanging with Mr. Cooper, Moesha, and The Proud Family Dante recently made his directorial debut at SXSW with Fabulous Filipino Brothers.Avatar: Braving the Elementshttps://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-avatar-braving-the-elemen-83488502/

This is a review of Season 3 Episode 7 : Tina-rannosaurus Wreck. On Hulu the description reads: After Tina accidentally wrecks the car, and gets the whole family involved with a slimy insurance agent, she worries that she's a "jinx." Sources: https://bobs-burgers.fandom.com/wiki/Tinarannosaurus_Wrecks/Trivia https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2524708/trivia/?ref_=tt_trv_trv Social Links: Instagram: @orderingbobsburgers Linktr.ee: Linktr.ee/Orderingbb --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/orderingbb/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/orderingbb/support

This is a review of Season 3 Episode 6 : The Deepening. On Hulu the description reads: In an homage to Jaws, Bob's landlord and pier proprietor Mr. Fischoeder buys a mechanical shark as a pier attraction, but when it turns wild and starts terrorizing the town, it's up to Bob and the family to stop it. Sources: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2511944/trivia/?ref_=tt_trv_trv https://bobs-burgers.fandom.com/wiki/The_Deepening/Trivia Social Links: Instagram: @orderingbobsburgers Linktr.ee: Linktr.ee/Orderingbb --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/orderingbb/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/orderingbb/support

On this bonus episode we discuss what podcast we are listening to the most. Some of the sports podcast we listen to are: “Jalen & Jacoby”, “Unbothered”, “You Pod to Win the Game” some of the general podcast we listen to; “Drink Champs”, “Million Dollaz Worth of Game”, “Midnight Miracle”, “The People's Party”, “Club Shay Shay” “Netlife”, “The Bridge”, “Swagu and Perk”, “Renaissance Man”, “The Brilliant Idiots”, “All the Smoke”  We talk about what we are streaming. [11:35] We start off with, “We Own this Town” and “Winning Time” on HBO Max.  On Apple TV + “They Call Me Magic.” On Hulu, “Woke”, “Only Murders in the Building”, “Dave” and “Atlanta”. On Amazon Plus, “Reacher”, “Bosch” We discuss the impact of “Abbott Elementary” and “The Wonder Years.” Are Black stories told enough or correctly in the media? [19:20]

On this episode we are joined by paranormal investigators Fiddle and Erick. Fiddle has been on the show before we catch up with him and our new friend Erick shares some pretty creepy encounters he's had through out his career as a paranormal investigator. Follow there instagram pages to keep up with them or if you need some ghost hunters. Fiddle @paranormal.connections and Erick @golden_state_haunts. Also check out there show, Creepy AF. On Hulu, also check them out on the Vice show “In my own world” episode is called Demon hunter. If you guys have some stories to share and want to call in or just email it. Do so @thestrangefilespodcast@gmail.com and follow us on instagram @thestrangefilespodcast --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thestrangefilespodcast/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thestrangefilespodcast/support

What happens when a real-estate company is valued like a technology company–and is led by a larger-than-life CEO who has aspirations to be the “president of the world”? That's the story of WeWork, a rise and fall–and rise again–story that's even turning into an Apple TV series starring Jared Leto and Anne Hathaway. In this episode of Just Checking In, we're speaking with Eliot Brown, the WSJ journalist who covered this whole story and has co-authored a riveting business book called The Cult of We, which recounts all the testimonies, anecdotes, and events that changed the course of the company. Join us while we discuss WeWork's recent SPAC, the eccentric behavior of its former CEO, and Eliot's writing journey. Join technology comms pros Becky Buckman and Keyana Corliss as they cut to the heart of today's tech-news cycle and the general craziness that is high-tech corporate communications right now. With a short, not-too-serious take on the industry - with plenty of humor and irony thrown in - they'll bring you the best in the biz, across comms and media together, for one-of-a-kind insights and perspectives you won't hear anywhere else! Jump straight into: (00:00) - Introducing Eliot Brown and his latest book “The Cult of We”. (06:35) - Discussing WeWork going public through a SPAC merger - “WeWork always has this magical way of finding the easy money out there or the most overflowing chunk of the finance system. So that's what SPACs are today.”   (8:01) - The moment things started to fall for WeWork - “What they were doing was portraying themselves to the market as something like a tech company when, in reality, they were a real estate company and the reason they were doing that was to get a bigger value.” (10:00) - Implications on tech reporting since WeWork's big boom - “I actually think it was really problematic that you had this organ of the press taking the stories that companies were telling about what they wanted to see in the future.” (13:51) - The making of the book and Eliot's turbulent relationship with Adam and WeWork - “It was right before Adam was pushed out of CEO that we started talking too seriously to a publisher. And then the day he resigned, an offer came in from the editor.” (18:39) - On Hulu documentary and an upcoming Apple TV show with Eliot as a character - “Now anytime there's a big story, it seems that a zillion documentarians try to do a documentary. You also have this rush of people trying to do a Hollywood streaming series based on a true-life story.” (21:50) - What's next for Eliot Brown? His interest in covering how SPACs work - “In an IPO traditionally, you're talking about what you've done. You weren't allowed to talk about the future or else you'll get sued, but the rules are different for a SPAC.” (23:40) - Eliot's read on SoftBank funding WeWork's vision - “Some people think it was all SoftBank's fault, but WeWork was buying a wave pool company and rented private jets before SoftBank came in.” Episode resources: Eliot Brown's https://twitter.com/eliotwb?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor (Twitter) and https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliot-brown-784383b9/ (Linkedin) Eliot's book https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/645810/the-cult-of-we-by-eliot-brown-and-maureen-farrell/ (The Cult of We) Thank you for listening to Just Checking In by Battery Ventures. Go follow https://twitter.com/rebeccabuckman (Becky) and https://twitter.com/keyanacorliss (Keyana) on social media to know more about them. If you enjoyed this show leave a review and help us find new audiences!  This show is produced by https://www.studiopodsf.com/ (StudioPod Media) in SanFrancisco. Editing and music provided by https://www.linkedin.com/in/teresa-buchanan-4879a2194/ (Teresa Buchanan). Nicole Genova is the Show Coordinator.

Recorded in front of a live virtual audience, Kate and Leisha are recapping the 12th episode of the first season of The L Word. (On Hulu it's listed as episode 13) and answer some fan questions. *edited for podcast audio Follow us on Twitter @ThePantsPod Follow us on Instagram @ThePantsPod Email us: pantspodcast@yahoo.com Music: Carol Parra @csssuxxx Artwork: Lovefoxxx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Recorded in front of a live virtual audience, Kate and Leisha are recapping the 12th episode of the first season of The L Word. (On Hulu it's listed as episode 13) and answer some fan questions. *edited for podcast audioFollow us on Twitter @ThePantsPodFollow us on Instagram @ThePantsPodEmail us: pantspodcast@yahoo.comMusic: Carol Parra @csssuxxxArtwork: Lovefoxxx See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Pam and Brooke's night with wedding planner Amanda Walker continues!  They dive into confessionals about a family photo shoot gone wrong, a pushy dad trying to bulldoze his way down the aisle, and a honeymoon gift that may not exist anymore. If you like confusing vacation planning or overwhelming fathers, this episode is for you! -- GUEST INFO: You can learn more about Amanda's wedding and event planning at the Salt & Sparrow website. Follow Salt & Sparrow on Instagram: @salt_and_sparrow And follow Amanda's lifestyle brand: @rootedfarmandgardens   -- BRIDAL BREAK: Sunburn Cocktail: A fruity drink to help you hold on to the tiny bit of summer that's left. Created by the Hey Wanderer Blog. The Big Leap: Scripted drama about a dance competition reality tv show. On Hulu and Fox. Big Flower Fight: Amateur floral arrangement competition show. Available on Netflix.  Full Bloom: Professional florist competition show. Available on HBO Max.   -- WEDDING CONFESSIONALS LINKS: www.weddingconfessionals.com Instagram Facebook Twitter Pinterest   -- Have a story to tell us? Need some advice about your own wedding drama?  Email us: weddingconfessionals@gmail.com Call us: 434-933-2663 Click here to send us a message with no personal information needed! We promise to never reveal the names in order to protect the innocent...and the annoyed. Your secret's safe with us!   -- Logo by David Kantrowitz Theme song by Andy Schrier  

This week Kate and Leisha are recapping the eleventh episode of the first season of The L Word. (On Hulu it's listed as episode 12) Follow us on Twitter @ThePantsPod Follow us on Instagram @ThePantsPod Email us: pantspodcast@yahoo.com Music: Carol Parra @csssuxxx Artwork: Lovefoxxx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week Kate and Leisha are recapping the eleventh episode of the first season of The L Word. (On Hulu it's listed as episode 12)Follow us on Twitter @ThePantsPodFollow us on Instagram @ThePantsPodEmail us: pantspodcast@yahoo.comMusic: Carol Parra @csssuxxxArtwork: Lovefoxxx See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week Kate and Leisha are recapping the tenth episode of the first season of The L Word. (On Hulu it's listed as episode 11) Follow us on Twitter @ThePantsPod Follow us on Instagram @ThePantsPod Email us: pantspodcast@yahoo.com Music: Carol Parra @csssuxxx Artwork: Lovefoxxx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This week Kate and Leisha are recapping the tenth episode of the first season of The L Word. (On Hulu it's listed as episode 11)Follow us on Twitter @ThePantsPodFollow us on Instagram @ThePantsPodEmail us: pantspodcast@yahoo.comMusic: Carol Parra @csssuxxxArtwork: Lovefoxxx See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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This week Kate and Leisha are recapping the ninth episode of the first season of The L Word. (On Hulu it's listed as episode 10) Follow us on Twitter @ThePantsPod Follow us on Instagram @ThePantsPod Email us: pantspodcast@yahoo.com Music: Carol Parra @csssuxxx Artwork: Lovefoxxx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week Kate and Leisha are recapping the ninth episode of the first season of The L Word. (On Hulu it's listed as episode 10)Follow us on Twitter @ThePantsPodFollow us on Instagram @ThePantsPodEmail us: pantspodcast@yahoo.comMusic: Carol Parra @csssuxxxArtwork: Lovefoxxx See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

There's no better time to share the second part of Beth Grant's podcast episode than a few days before her birthday (9/18). From being fired to checking her ego to working with Patrick Swayze & Stockard Channing, Beth talks about lessons learned! Beth Grant is a character actress who has been featured in many iconic films & TV shows: Donnie Darko, King of the Hill, Little Miss Sunshine, A Time To Kill, Speed, No Country For Old Men + over 200 more. Beth will next be seen in Season 4 of Goliath on Amazon Prime, starring Billy Bob Thornton, which drops 9/24. Beth will also be seen in Kit Williamson's new series Unconventional, playing Beau Bridges' girlfriend. This show is currently in production. Release date TBD. Connect with Beth: Facebook Twitter Instagram IMDB Like What You Hear? Join my Patreon Family to get backstage perks including advanced notice of interviews, the ability to submit a question to my guests, behind-the-scene videos, and so much more! Follow me on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram Visit: https://callmeadam.com for more my print/video interviews Special Thanks: My Patreon Family for their continued support: Angelo, Reva and Alan, Marianne, Danielle, Tara, Alex, and The Golden Gays NYC. Join the fun at https://patreon.com/callmeadamnyc. Theme Song by Bobby Cronin (https://bit.ly/2MaADvQ) Podcast Logo by Liam O'Donnell (https://bit.ly/2YNI9CY) Edited by Drew Kaufman (https://bit.ly/2OXqOnw) Outro Music Underscore by CueTique (Website: https://bit.ly/31luGmT, Facebook: @CueTique) More on Beth: Known as a Hollywood lucky charm, Beth Grant has co-starred in three Academy Award winning Best Pictures: THE ARTIST, NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN & RAIN MAN. She has twice received the Screen Actors Guild Ensemble Award for LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE & NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN & voiced Academy Award winning Best Animated Feature, RANGO. Now on Amazon Prime, Beth co-stars with Charlie Plummer, Andy Garcia, Molly Parker & Walton Goggins in WORDS ON BATHROOM WALLS. Beth also has a five episode arc on Amazon's GOLIATH, starring Billy Bob Thornton, J.K. Simmon s & Bruce Dern. Beth co-stars with Josh Leonard & Jess Weixler in FULLY REALIZED HUMANS, which premiered at Tribeca in April. Picked as a DGA film & director to watch, Beth co-stars with Sienna Miller & Diego Luna in Sundance favorite, Tara Miele's WANDER DARKLY, now in theaters & VOD. Beth can also be seen in WILLY'S WONDERLAND, starring Nicolas Cage. On Hulu, Beth is the “Cat Lady,” guardian angel to Kat Dennings; & regular “Beverly” on Mindy Kaling's THE MINDY PROJECT. Beth plays opposite Neil Patrick Harris & Richard E. Grant, in A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS on Netflix; “Jack” on AMERICAN GODS by Bryan Fuller & Michael Green for STARZ.  Beth received the Los Angeles Drama Critics Circle Award, L.A. Stage Alliance Ovation, LA Weekly Award, Backstage West Garland Award for Lead Actress in THE TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS OF A TRAILER TRASH HOUSEWIFE. In 2011 Beth starred Off-Broadway in Tony George's TRICKS THE DEVIL TAUGHT ME at The Minetta Lane Theater in NYC. Beth has won three L.A. Stage Alliance Ovation Awards, including Lead Actress for GRACE AND GLORIE at The Colony Theatre. Other theatre credits include world premieres by Maya Angelou, Romulus Linney, Horton Foote, & Mark V. Olsen. Beth produced & starred in 2012's BLUES FOR WILLADEAN, with Academy Award winner Octavia Spencer; written/directed by Del Shores – now on iTunes, Amazon & Walmart.com. Beth co-produced & starred in the ComiCon 2010 Best Comedy Award winner, HERPES BOY – on Netflix, iTunes, Amazon, X-Box & most VOD. Beth produced, After The Ball, a documentary about the cultural life of the elderly, With over 200 credits to her name, Beth's movie & TV credits can be found on her IMDB page. Beth has been married to fellow actor, Michael Chieffo, for almost 35 years. Their daughter, Mary Chieffo stars as Klingon Commander, "L'Rell" on the new STAR TREK: DISCOVERY. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Kate and Leisha are recapping the eith episode of the first season of The L Word. (On Hulu it's listed as episode 9)   Follow us on Twitter @ThePantsPod Follow us on Instagram @ThePantsPod Email us: pantspodcast@yahoo.com Music: Carol Parra @csssuxxx Artwork: Lovefoxxx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week Kate and Leisha are recapping the eith episode of the first season of The L Word. (On Hulu it's listed as episode 9) Follow us on Twitter @ThePantsPodFollow us on Instagram @ThePantsPodEmail us: pantspodcast@yahoo.comMusic: Carol Parra @csssuxxxArtwork: Lovefoxxx See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Beth Grant is a character actress whose career spans 40 years between Film, TV & Theatre. With over 200 credits to her name, Beth's talent has been seen everywhere including The Mindy Project, The Golden Girls, Speed, A Time To Kill, Donnie Darko, Netflix's A Series of Unfortunate Events, Little Miss Sunshine, To Wong Foo, Thanks For Everything! Julie Newmar & Del Shores' Sordid Lives. Today I talk with Beth about her illustrious career as well as some Tricks The Devil Taught Me. Catch Beth in Season 4 of Goliath on Amazon Prime, starring Billy Bob Thornton, which drops 9/24. Beth will also be seen in Kit Williamson's new series Unconventional, playing Beau Bridges' girlfriend. This show is currently in production. Release date TBD. Connect with Beth: Facebook Twitter Instagram IMDB Like What You Hear? Join my Patreon Family to get backstage perks including advanced notice of interviews, the ability to submit a question to my guests, behind-the-scene videos, and so much more! Follow me on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram Visit: https://callmeadam.com for more my print/video interviews Special Thanks: My Patreon Family for their continued support: Angelo, Reva and Alan, Marianne, Danielle, Tara, Alex, and The Golden Gays NYC. Join the fun at https://patreon.com/callmeadamnyc. Theme Song by Bobby Cronin (https://bit.ly/2MaADvQ) Podcast Logo by Liam O'Donnell (https://bit.ly/2YNI9CY) Edited by Drew Kaufman (https://bit.ly/2OXqOnw) Outro Music Underscore by CueTique (Website: https://bit.ly/31luGmT, Facebook: @CueTique) More on Beth: Known as a Hollywood lucky charm, Beth Grant has co-starred in three Academy Award winning Best Pictures: THE ARTIST, NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN & RAIN MAN. She has twice received the Screen Actors Guild Ensemble Award for LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE & NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN & voiced Academy Award winning Best Animated Feature, RANGO. Now on Amazon Prime, Beth co-stars with Charlie Plummer, Andy Garcia, Molly Parker & Walton Goggins in WORDS ON BATHROOM WALLS. Beth also has a five episode arc on Amazon's GOLIATH, starring Billy Bob Thornton, J.K. Simmon s & Bruce Dern. Beth co-stars with Josh Leonard & Jess Weixler in FULLY REALIZED HUMANS, which premiered at Tribeca in April. Picked as a DGA film & director to watch, Beth co-stars with Sienna Miller & Diego Luna in Sundance favorite, Tara Miele's WANDER DARKLY, now in theaters & VOD. Beth can also be seen in WILLY'S WONDERLAND, starring Nicolas Cage. On Hulu, Beth is the “Cat Lady,” guardian angel to Kat Dennings; & regular “Beverly” on Mindy Kaling's THE MINDY PROJECT. Beth plays opposite Neil Patrick Harris & Richard E. Grant, in A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS on Netflix; “Jack” on AMERICAN GODS by Bryan Fuller & Michael Green for STARZ.  Beth received the Los Angeles Drama Critics Circle Award, L.A. Stage Alliance Ovation, LA Weekly Award, Backstage West Garland Award for Lead Actress in THE TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS OF A TRAILER TRASH HOUSEWIFE. In 2011 Beth starred Off-Broadway in Tony George's TRICKS THE DEVIL TAUGHT ME at The Minetta Lane Theater in NYC. Beth has won three L.A. Stage Alliance Ovation Awards, including Lead Actress for GRACE AND GLORIE at The Colony Theatre. Other theatre credits include world premieres by Maya Angelou, Romulus Linney, Horton Foote, & Mark V. Olsen. Beth produced & starred in 2012's BLUES FOR WILLADEAN, with Academy Award winner Octavia Spencer; written/directed by Del Shores – now on iTunes, Amazon & Walmart.com. Beth co-produced & starred in the ComiCon 2010 Best Comedy Award winner, HERPES BOY – on Netflix, iTunes, Amazon, X-Box & most VOD. Beth produced, After The Ball, a documentary about the cultural life of the elderly, With over 200 credits to her name, Beth's movie & TV credits can be found on her IMDB page. Beth has been married to fellow actor, Michael Chieffo, for almost 35 years. Their daughter, Mary Chieffo stars as Klingon Commander, "L'Rell" on the new STAR TREK: DISCOVERY. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Kate and Leisha are recapping the seventh episode of the first season of The L Word. (On Hulu it's listed as episode 8)   Follow us on Twitter @ThePantsPod Follow us on Instagram @ThePantsPod Email us: pantspodcast@yahoo.com Music: Carol Parra @csssuxxx Artwork: Lovefoxxx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week Kate and Leisha are recapping the seventh episode of the first season of The L Word. (On Hulu it's listed as episode 8) Follow us on Twitter @ThePantsPodFollow us on Instagram @ThePantsPodEmail us: pantspodcast@yahoo.comMusic: Carol Parra @csssuxxxArtwork: Lovefoxxx See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week Kate and Leisha are recapping the sixth episode of the first season of The L Word. (On Hulu it's listed as episode 7)   Follow us on Twitter @ThePantsPod Follow us on Instagram @ThePantsPod Email us: pantspodcast@yahoo.com Music: Carol Parra @csssuxxx Artwork: Lovefoxxx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week Kate and Leisha are recapping the sixth episode of the first season of The L Word. (On Hulu it's listed as episode 7) Follow us on Twitter @ThePantsPodFollow us on Instagram @ThePantsPodEmail us: pantspodcast@yahoo.comMusic: Carol Parra @csssuxxxArtwork: Lovefoxxx See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week Kate and Leisha are recapping the fifth episode of the first season of The L Word. (On Hulu it's listed as episode 6)   Follow us on Twitter @ThePantsPod Follow us on Instagram @ThePantsPod Email us: pantspodcast@yahoo.com Music: Carol Parra @csssuxxx Artwork: Lovefoxxx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week Kate and Leisha are recapping the fifth episode of the first season of The L Word. (On Hulu it's listed as episode 6) Follow us on Twitter @ThePantsPodFollow us on Instagram @ThePantsPodEmail us: pantspodcast@yahoo.comMusic: Carol Parra @csssuxxxArtwork: Lovefoxxx See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

PANTS with Kate Moennig and Leisha Hailey Produced by Melisa D. Monts and Diamond MPrint Productions   This week Kate and Leisha are recapping the fourth episode of the first season of The L Word. (On Hulu it's listed as episode 5)   Follow us on Twitter @ThePantsPod Follow us on Instagram @ThePantsPod Email us: pantspodcast@yahoo.com Music: Carol Parra @csssuxxx Artwork: Lovefoxxx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

PANTS with Kate Moennig and Leisha HaileyProduced by Melisa D. Monts and Diamond MPrint Productions This week Kate and Leisha are recapping the fourth episode of the first season of The L Word. (On Hulu it's listed as episode 5) Follow us on Twitter @ThePantsPodFollow us on Instagram @ThePantsPodEmail us: pantspodcast@yahoo.comMusic: Carol Parra @csssuxxxArtwork: Lovefoxxx See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

PANTS with Kate Moennig and Leisha Hailey Produced by Melisa D. Monts and Diamond MPrint Productions   This week Kate and Leisha are recapping the third episode of the first season of The L Word. (On Hulu it's listed as episode 4)   Follow us on Twitter @ThePantsPod Follow us on Instagram @ThePantsPod Email us: pantspodcast@yahoo.com Music: Carol Parra @csssuxxx Artwork: Lovefoxxx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

PANTS with Kate Moennig and Leisha HaileyProduced by Melisa D. Monts and Diamond MPrint Productions This week Kate and Leisha are recapping the third episode of the first season of The L Word. (On Hulu it's listed as episode 4) Follow us on Twitter @ThePantsPodFollow us on Instagram @ThePantsPodEmail us: pantspodcast@yahoo.comMusic: Carol Parra @csssuxxxArtwork: Lovefoxxx See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

PANTS with Kate Moennig and Leisha Hailey Produced by Melisa D. Monts and Diamond MPrint Productions   This week Kate and Leisha are recapping the second episode of the first season of The L Word. (On Hulu it's listed as episode 3)   Follow us on Twitter @ThePantsPod Follow us on Instagram @ThePantsPod Email us: pantspodcast@yahoo.com Music: Carol Parra @csssuxxx Artwork: Lovefoxxx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

PANTS with Kate Moennig and Leisha HaileyProduced by Melisa D. Monts and Diamond MPrint Productions This week Kate and Leisha are recapping the second episode of the first season of The L Word. (On Hulu it's listed as episode 3) Follow us on Twitter @ThePantsPodFollow us on Instagram @ThePantsPodEmail us: pantspodcast@yahoo.comMusic: Carol Parra @csssuxxxArtwork: Lovefoxxx See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

ABOUT AVATAR: BRAVING THE ELEMENTSNickelodeon, the number-one network for kids, and iHeartRadio, the No. 1 podcast publisher globally, are extending the worlds of Avatar: The Last Airbender and SpongeBob SquarePants with two original podcasts for loyal fans who grew up on the beloved franchises. Hosted by original series voice actors Janet Varney (the voice of Korra) and Dante Basco (the voice of Prince Zuko), Avatar: Braving the Elements will explore the Avatarverse, while super-fans Frankie Grande and Hector Navarro will take fans down to Bikini Bottom with SpongeBob BingePants. Co-produced by Nickelodeon and iHeartRadio, these companion podcasts will be available on iHeartRadio and wherever else podcasts are found starting this summer."The family podcast market is still nascent, and we're thrilled to be working closely with our good friends at iHeartRadio producing exciting new content for all audio platforms," said Douglas Rosen, Senior Vice President, Strategy, Business Development and Digital Products, Nickelodeon. "Not only are we extending our beloved franchises and IP to the audio landscape, but we're also working with creative talent to produce new ideas and concepts for all audiences.""We're thrilled to be partnering with the team at Nickelodeon to bring such incredibly fun shows to audiences everywhere," said Will Pearson, Chief Operating Officer of the iHeartPodcast Network. "I'm not sure you could pick two better franchises to kick things off, and there's much more to come. We can't wait for fans to hear these shows."Additional podcasts featuring beloved Nickelodeon titles from its library are currently in development and will be announced in the coming months.Avatar: Braving the Elements (40 episodes, premieres Tuesday, June 22, 2021) - Enter the amazing world of Avatar through the official companion podcast from Nickelodeon. Join hosts Janet Varney (the voice of Korra) and Dante Basco (the voice of Prince Zuko) each week as they re-watch every episode of Avatar: The Last Airbender and break down key themes, notable battles, and behind-the-scenes trivia. Special guests from cast members to producers join them to explore elements of the Avatarverse, including the origins of the story and how Avatar was brought to life.Avatar: Braving the Elements and SpongeBob BingePants are distributed by the iHeartPodcast Network.ABOUT AVATAR: THE LAST AIRBENDERNickelodeon's Avatar: The Last Airbender emerged from its three-season run (61 episodes), from February 2005 to July 2008, as one of the most beloved animated properties in history. Honored with a Peabody Award and Primetime Emmy, along with multiple Annie Awards and Genesis Awards, the series follows the adventures of the main protagonist Aang and his friends, who must save the world by defeating Fire Lord Ozai and ending the destructive war with the Fire Nation.In addition to the series' success, the property has spawned into several bestselling book series, which continue to roll out new original stories. The graphic novel series most recently spent two months on the New York Times Graphic Books Bestseller list in 2020, and the young adult novels have spent 22 cumulative weeks on the New York Times Young Adult Bestseller list and have shipped over a quarter million copies. The DVD and Blu-rays are also incredibly successful, with the "Avatar: The Last Airbender: The Complete Series" generating nearly $38MM in retail sales since its 2015 release.Check out the trailer PLUS this Entertainment Weekly interview with Janet and Dante:https://ew.com/tv/avatar-the-last-airbender-braving-the-elements-trailer/JANET VARNEY BIOJanet Varney is an Emmy-Nominated actor, comedian, writer and producer. In the animation world, she's the award-winning voice of Korra on Nickelodeon's (now on Netflix) The Legend of Korra. On Hulu, she can be seen fighting dark forces opposite John C. McGinley in Stan Against Evil and as the entitled Becca on FXX's You're the Worst. She also created, wrote, produced and starred in the critically-acclaimed IFC online series Fortune Rookie. For the past 8 years, JV has hosted her podcast The JV Club with Janet Varney, where she interviews celebrities about their awkward teenage years. JV can also be heard as the AI "Sorry" on the improvised sci-fi comedy podcast Voyage to the Stars. On the development and production side, Janet co-created, co-wrote and co-produced Neil's Puppet Dreams, a series featuring Neil Patrick Harris and his puppet-filled dreams. She is co-founder/creative director/producer of one of the largest and most acclaimed comedy festivals in North America, SF Sketchfest: the San Francisco Comedy Festival, now in its 20th year.https://twitter.com/janetvarneyDANTE BASCO BIO Dante Basco was first introduced in Steve Spielberg's fairytale movie Hook, as "Rufio", the leader of the Lost Boys. Recently, Dante starred in Newline's Take the Lead, opposite Antonio Banderas, and starred in a pilot for Touchstone/ABC, The Chang Family Saves the World, written and produced by John Ridley and directed by Paris Barclay. He is also the new voice Disney's animated series American Dragon: Jake Long, as well as the voice of villain Prince Zuko in Nickelodeon's Avatar: The Last Airbender. Dante has also starred in his share of feature films: Biker Boyz (with Laurence Fishburne, Kid Rock and Derek Luke), Naked Brown Men (which he co-produced and stars in with his brothers), Extreme Days, But I'm a Cheerleader (with Natasha Lyonne, Cathy Moriarty and Clea Duvall), The Debut, Fakin' Da Funk (with Pam Greer and Tatiana Ali), Rave, and Showtime's critically acclaimed Riot - just to name a few. Dante has also appeared on Entourage, The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, Nash Bridges, Touched by an Angel, Providence, Hanging with Mr. Cooper, Moesha, and The Proud Family Dante recently made his directorial debut at SXSW with Fabulous Filipino Brothers. https://twitter.com/dantebascoAvatar: Braving the Elements:https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-avatar-braving-the-elemen-83488502/

On this issue of The Comic Section, Jason & Xio talk Andy Serkis and Colin Farrell potential casting as Alfred and The Penguin in "The Batman". Stranger Things reveals the name of the first episode for Season 4. "Joker” has become the top R-rated movie of all time! Production for The Falcon And The Winter Soldier TV series is now underway! R-Rated Deadpool Movies and Family Guy confirmed to remain On Hulu and not go to Disney+. Kevin Feige says Marvel fans will need to watch Disney+ Series to understand future MCU movies. We preview new trailers for Bad Boys 4 Life, Disney/Pixar's Soul, & The Invisible Man. Xio reviews Zombieland "Double Tap" & Jason reviews Apple TV+'s SEE. Xio gives us the new comics for the week. And the upcoming new events! Tune in now!

iTunes subscribers! Be sure to go to the blog to read the description easier & check out links for this episode! A year ago, I did my second-ever podcast episode, and it was all about the legacy that is Sailor Moon. Now I'm back with another hefty episode with returning guests NewtypeLady and Nitro to discuss the current revival of all things Sailor Moon: How we consumed it then vs. now, thoughts on Viz's current re-release of the original Sailor Moon anime, and yes...even thoughts on the new Sailor Moon Crystal. Stream the episode above or [Direct Download] You can also now subscribe on itunes! Links mentioned in the episode: Catch up on Sailor Moon's re-released, newly translated manga!  ☆ Buy Sailor Moon Manga Box Set #1 - Amazon / TRSI  ☆ Buy Sailor Moon Manga Box Set # 2 - Amazon / TRSI Pre-order vol 1 of Viz's original Sailor Moon anime! ☆ Limited Edition Blu-ray/DVD set ☆ Standard DVD set Watch original Sailor Moon episodes legally for free! On Hulu ☆ On Neon Alley Watch Sailor Moon Crystal legally for free! On Hulu ☆ On Neon Alley ☆ On Crunchyroll ☆ On Nico-Nico Let's Play 20+ Years of Sailor Moon games! Youtube ☆ Twitch Guest's Tumblrs: nitroslogbook ☆ ghost-hype As always, feel free to leave me your thoughts and ideas for future episodes here, or email directly at AnimeNostalgiaPodcast@gmail.com. Thanks for listening!

  Just in time for Halloween, this episode is all about Ghost in the Shell!...ok, so Ghost in the Shell has little to do with Ghosts (or Shells!) But in this episode, returning guest NewtypeLady (who you might remember from my Gundam episode not too long ago) & I talk about the legacy of Masamune Shirow's 80s cyberpunk classic, and the many incarnations of it and The Major. Listen as we talk about philosophy, Mamoru Oshii's dog, and what a surprisingly great role-model Major Motoko Kusanagi is for women & cyborgs everywhere. Stream the episode above or [Direct Download] Some links we mentioned in the podcast: ☆ Buy Masamune Shirow's original manga: The 1995 Edited version / The 2004 Unedited version ☆ Buy the Mamoru Oshii films: The original DVD / The Special Edition DVD / The "2.0" re-release blu-ray / "Innocence" DVD ☆ Read the entire "A Cyborg Manifesto" by Donna Haraway ☆ Read the article "Hollywood is Haunted by Ghost in the Shell" by Steve Rose, 2009 ☆ Watch Ghost in the Shell (the 2.0 re-release) free & legally! On Hulu here As always, feel free to give me your thoughts and comments on this and for future episodes! Thanks for listening!