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In this deeply moving episode, Corey Nathan welcomes Rabbi Sharon Brous, the senior and founding rabbi of IKAR, a groundbreaking Jewish community based in Los Angeles. Rabbi Brous is also the author of The Amen Effect: Ancient Wisdom to Heal Our Hearts and Mend Our Broken World. Together, they explore ancient traditions, mental health, spiritual leadership, and how to foster deeper, more compassionate human connections even across profound divides. What We Discuss: The ancient ritual of turning toward the brokenhearted and its modern relevance. The profound impact of being seen and embraced in moments of vulnerability. How leaders carry and process communal pain—and why that matters. Practical wisdom on staying curious and compassionate across ideological divides. The role of community design in spiritual experiences. Episode Highlights: [00:01:00] Rabbi Brous explains the Mishnah Middot and the ritual of turning toward the brokenhearted. [00:08:00] Corey and Rabbi Brous discuss the concept of sin as a burden like mental illness. [00:15:00] The transformative power of being truly seen and how crying makes space for new realities. [00:20:00] Rabbi Brous reflects on the toll leadership can take and how caregivers must process pain. [00:24:00] The design of IKAR's prayer space and how it fosters visibility and community. [00:34:00] Navigating discomfort with changes in religious leadership and traditions. [00:42:00] How to stay at the table with those who hurt or anger us—and why it's critical. [00:53:00] A powerful story about transformation through simple presence and blessing. Featured Quotes: "Sometimes you don't even want to get out of bed. Yet, sacred tradition compels us to show our brokenness—and trust that we will be held with love." — Rabbi Sharon Brous "If you don't metabolize pain, it will metastasize inside of you." — Rabbi Sharon Brous "We can create new neural and spiritual pathways—by allowing ourselves to be seen and to receive love." — Rabbi Sharon Brous "It takes courage to be curious about someone who hurt you, but that's the only way to heal." — Rabbi Sharon Brous Resources Mentioned: The Amen Effect by Rabbi Sharon Brous: https://ikar.org/the-amen-effect/the-big-idea/ IKAR Jewish Community: https://www.ikar.org/ How to Know a Person by David Brooks: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/652822/how-to-know-a-person-by-david-brooks/ Fierce Love by Rev. Dr. Jacqui Lewis: https://jacquijlewis.com/fierce-love/ I Never Thought of It That Way by Mónica Guzmán: https://www.moniguzman.com/book

In this deeply moving episode, Corey Nathan welcomes Rabbi Sharon Brous, the senior and founding rabbi of IKAR, a groundbreaking Jewish community based in Los Angeles. Rabbi Brous is also the author of The Amen Effect: Ancient Wisdom to Heal Our Hearts and Mend Our Broken World. Together, they explore ancient traditions, mental health, spiritual leadership, and how to foster deeper, more compassionate human connections even across profound divides. What We Discuss: The ancient ritual of turning toward the brokenhearted and its modern relevance. The profound impact of being seen and embraced in moments of vulnerability. How leaders carry and process communal pain—and why that matters. Practical wisdom on staying curious and compassionate across ideological divides. The role of community design in spiritual experiences. Episode Highlights: [00:01:00] Rabbi Brous explains the Mishnah Middot and the ritual of turning toward the brokenhearted. [00:08:00] Corey and Rabbi Brous discuss the concept of sin as a burden like mental illness. [00:15:00] The transformative power of being truly seen and how crying makes space for new realities. [00:20:00] Rabbi Brous reflects on the toll leadership can take and how caregivers must process pain. [00:24:00] The design of IKAR's prayer space and how it fosters visibility and community. [00:34:00] Navigating discomfort with changes in religious leadership and traditions. [00:42:00] How to stay at the table with those who hurt or anger us—and why it's critical. [00:53:00] A powerful story about transformation through simple presence and blessing. Featured Quotes: "Sometimes you don't even want to get out of bed. Yet, sacred tradition compels us to show our brokenness—and trust that we will be held with love." — Rabbi Sharon Brous "If you don't metabolize pain, it will metastasize inside of you." — Rabbi Sharon Brous "We can create new neural and spiritual pathways—by allowing ourselves to be seen and to receive love." — Rabbi Sharon Brous "It takes courage to be curious about someone who hurt you, but that's the only way to heal." — Rabbi Sharon Brous Resources Mentioned: The Amen Effect by Rabbi Sharon Brous: https://ikar.org/the-amen-effect/the-big-idea/ IKAR Jewish Community: https://www.ikar.org/ How to Know a Person by David Brooks: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/652822/how-to-know-a-person-by-david-brooks/ Fierce Love by Rev. Dr. Jacqui Lewis: https://jacquijlewis.com/fierce-love/ I Never Thought of It That Way by Mónica Guzmán: https://www.moniguzman.com/book

In this episode, host Corey Nathan welcomes back Monica Guzmán, Senior Fellow for Public Practice at Braver Angels, host of A Braver Way podcast, CEO of Reclaim Curiosity, and author of I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times. Monica's mission is to help bridge America's political divides through fearless curiosity. With deep reflections on the 2024 election, evolving friendships across ideological lines, and her renewed commitment to bridge building, Monica shares how we can stay grounded and connected—especially when it feels impossible. What We Discuss: How Moni processes political polarization and stays grounded—even when the world feels divided Practical strategies for engaging with people across ideological lines without compromising your values Why shared outrage across political lines can be a gateway to unity The role of empathy, humility, and curiosity in depolarizing conversations How journalists and moderators can better navigate falsehoods without censoring legitimate concerns Episode Highlights: [00:03:00] – Mónica explains how her emotional radar helps her know when to seek out conversations with people who see politics differently. [00:08:00] – Unexpected agreement: conservatives and liberals are both frustrated with Congressional dysfunction and executive overreach. [00:14:00] – Moni shares how talking with people who had different experiences during COVID reshaped her understanding and empathy. [00:21:00] – Corey and Mónica discuss boundaries in bridge building—when is it time to walk away from a relationship? [00:29:00] – Moderating contentious conversations: “police the structure, not the content.” [00:36:00] – The relationship between activism and dialogue—and why one without the other can be reckless or ineffective. [00:46:00] – Tips for recognizing quality journalism and avoiding emotionally manipulative content. [00:56:00] – Mónica's closing advice: engagement is not endorsement. Curiosity and conversation don't mean you're compromising your values. Featured Quotes: “I've been persuaded over and over again that positions against mine are not ludicrous.” – Mónica Guzmán “Engagement is not endorsement. Having a conversation doesn't mean you're capitulating.” – Mónica Guzmán “Find your edge—and push it. That's all you need to do to build a bridge.” – Mónica Guzmán “I don't want a decision or a position to get in the way of our relationship. I want to understand it better.” – Corey Nathan Resources Mentioned: I Never Thought of It That Way by Monica Guzmán - moniguzman.com/book Braver Angels - braverangels.org

In this episode, host Corey Nathan welcomes back Monica Guzmán, Senior Fellow for Public Practice at Braver Angels, host of A Braver Way podcast, CEO of Reclaim Curiosity, and author of I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times. Monica's mission is to help bridge America's political divides through fearless curiosity. With deep reflections on the 2024 election, evolving friendships across ideological lines, and her renewed commitment to bridge building, Monica shares how we can stay grounded and connected—especially when it feels impossible. What We Discuss: How Moni processes political polarization and stays grounded—even when the world feels divided Practical strategies for engaging with people across ideological lines without compromising your values Why shared outrage across political lines can be a gateway to unity The role of empathy, humility, and curiosity in depolarizing conversations How journalists and moderators can better navigate falsehoods without censoring legitimate concerns Episode Highlights: [00:03:00] – Mónica explains how her emotional radar helps her know when to seek out conversations with people who see politics differently. [00:08:00] – Unexpected agreement: conservatives and liberals are both frustrated with Congressional dysfunction and executive overreach. [00:14:00] – Moni shares how talking with people who had different experiences during COVID reshaped her understanding and empathy. [00:21:00] – Corey and Mónica discuss boundaries in bridge building—when is it time to walk away from a relationship? [00:29:00] – Moderating contentious conversations: “police the structure, not the content.” [00:36:00] – The relationship between activism and dialogue—and why one without the other can be reckless or ineffective. [00:46:00] – Tips for recognizing quality journalism and avoiding emotionally manipulative content. [00:56:00] – Mónica's closing advice: engagement is not endorsement. Curiosity and conversation don't mean you're compromising your values. Featured Quotes: “I've been persuaded over and over again that positions against mine are not ludicrous.” – Mónica Guzmán “Engagement is not endorsement. Having a conversation doesn't mean you're capitulating.” – Mónica Guzmán “Find your edge—and push it. That's all you need to do to build a bridge.” – Mónica Guzmán “I don't want a decision or a position to get in the way of our relationship. I want to understand it better.” – Corey Nathan Resources Mentioned: I Never Thought of It That Way by Monica Guzmán - moniguzman.com/book Braver Angels - braverangels.org

Can we bridge the partisan divide and have constructive dialogue about politics and religion with "them" - people who have different beliefs about democracy, politics and religion? Are we able to simply have civil, civic conversations?  (We're grateful to have a number of new listeners. So we thought it'd be good to revisit this episode that was first aired just after the inauguration.) In this edition, host Corey Nathan explores how we can have meaningful, respectful, and productive conversations with those who think differently from us—politically, religiously, and ideologically. After four years of hosting the show and speaking with a wide array of guests, Corey shares his own insights, offering seven practical tools (plus a bonus tip) for engaging with “one of them” in a way that fosters connection rather than division. What Is Discussed How to give yourself and others grace in difficult conversations The importance of setting proper expectations when discussing sensitive topics Why asking the right questions is more powerful than having the perfect comeback How storytelling can humanize those with whom we disagree The value of being open to the phrase "I never thought of it that way" How to recognize when it's time to step away from a conversation or to love someone "from a safe distance" Resources and organizations that can help you navigate difficult discussions Episode Highlights ⏳ [00:02:00] – Reviews from listeners: the good, the bad, and the constructive ⏳ [00:05:00] – The purpose of this episode: sharing tools for engaging with "one of them" ⏳ [00:06:00] – Tool #1: Grace – Accepting that we will all make mistakes in these conversations ⏳ [00:09:00] – Tool #2: Proper Expectations – Why we shouldn't expect to change someone's mind 180 degrees ⏳ [00:12:00] – Tool #3: Asking Questions – Learning from Jesus' approach of responding with questions ⏳ [00:20:00] – Tool #4: Storytelling – The power of narrative in understanding each other as human beings ⏳ [00:25:00] – Tool #5: Being Open to "I Never Thought of It That Way" Moments ⏳ [00:32:00] – Tool #6: Recognizing Your Line – Knowing when to step away from an unhealthy dynamic ⏳ [00:35:00] – Tool #7: Equipping Yourself – Books, organizations, and resources for learning how to engage better ⏳ [00:38:00] – Bonus Tip: Taking Care of Yourself – Mental, emotional, and physical well-being in this work Featured Quotes

Can we bridge the partisan divide and have constructive dialogue about politics and religion with "them" - people who have different beliefs about democracy, politics and religion? Are we able to simply have civil, civic conversations?  (We're grateful to have a number of new listeners. So we thought it'd be good to revisit this episode that was first aired just after the inauguration.) In this edition, host Corey Nathan explores how we can have meaningful, respectful, and productive conversations with those who think differently from us—politically, religiously, and ideologically. After four years of hosting the show and speaking with a wide array of guests, Corey shares his own insights, offering seven practical tools (plus a bonus tip) for engaging with “one of them” in a way that fosters connection rather than division. What Is Discussed How to give yourself and others grace in difficult conversations The importance of setting proper expectations when discussing sensitive topics Why asking the right questions is more powerful than having the perfect comeback How storytelling can humanize those with whom we disagree The value of being open to the phrase "I never thought of it that way" How to recognize when it's time to step away from a conversation or to love someone "from a safe distance" Resources and organizations that can help you navigate difficult discussions Episode Highlights ⏳ [00:02:00] – Reviews from listeners: the good, the bad, and the constructive ⏳ [00:05:00] – The purpose of this episode: sharing tools for engaging with "one of them" ⏳ [00:06:00] – Tool #1: Grace – Accepting that we will all make mistakes in these conversations ⏳ [00:09:00] – Tool #2: Proper Expectations – Why we shouldn't expect to change someone's mind 180 degrees ⏳ [00:12:00] – Tool #3: Asking Questions – Learning from Jesus' approach of responding with questions ⏳ [00:20:00] – Tool #4: Storytelling – The power of narrative in understanding each other as human beings ⏳ [00:25:00] – Tool #5: Being Open to "I Never Thought of It That Way" Moments ⏳ [00:32:00] – Tool #6: Recognizing Your Line – Knowing when to step away from an unhealthy dynamic ⏳ [00:35:00] – Tool #7: Equipping Yourself – Books, organizations, and resources for learning how to engage better ⏳ [00:38:00] – Bonus Tip: Taking Care of Yourself – Mental, emotional, and physical well-being in this work Featured Quotes

Our first required reading for the leadership development course I'm taking is a doozie-- Leadership and Self-Deception by the Arbinger Institute.I love the stories within the story, and the insight I received, eye-opening and empowering ideas that I can't wait to share with you, mostly to remind ME about keeping an outward mindset.Want more?Check out Leadership and Self-Deception onBookshop and buy local, or downloadLibby and start listening to amazing books.Related Zoo-notablesRadical Candor by Kim ScottMindset by Carol DweckI Never Thought of It That Way by Monica Guzman

This episode's guest is Mónica Guzmán, the author of I Never Thought of It That Way – a book with very practical advice on how to have productive conversations in a polarized political environment via authentic curiosity about where people's beliefs, opinions, attitudes, and values come from. It's also about how to learn from those with whom we disagree by establishing the sort of dynamic in which they will eagerly learn from us as well.- How Minds Change- Show Notes- Newsletter- David McRaney's BlueSky- David McRaney's Twitter- YANSS Twitter- Mónica Guzmán's Website- Mónica Guzmán's Twitter - I Never Thought of it That Way- Braver Angels- My Article on Intellectual Humility

Is it possible to have decent conversations across political differences. Short answer: Yeah! In this episode, host Corey Nathan explores how we can have meaningful, respectful, and productive conversations with those who think differently from us—politically, religiously, and ideologically. After four years of hosting the show and speaking with a wide array of guests, Corey shares his own insights, offering seven practical tools (plus a bonus tip) for engaging with “one of them” in a way that fosters connection rather than division. What Is Discussed How to give yourself and others grace in difficult conversations The importance of setting proper expectations when discussing sensitive topics Why asking the right questions is more powerful than having the perfect comeback How storytelling can humanize those with whom we disagree The value of being open to the phrase "I never thought of it that way" How to recognize when it's time to step away from a conversation or to love someone "from a safe distance" Resources and organizations that can help you navigate difficult discussions Episode Highlights ⏳ [00:02:00] – Reviews from listeners: the good, the bad, and the constructive ⏳ [00:05:00] – The purpose of this episode: sharing tools for engaging with "one of them" ⏳ [00:06:00] – Tool #1: Grace – Accepting that we will all make mistakes in these conversations ⏳ [00:09:00] – Tool #2: Proper Expectations – Why we shouldn't expect to change someone's mind 180 degrees ⏳ [00:12:00] – Tool #3: Asking Questions – Learning from Jesus' approach of responding with questions ⏳ [00:20:00] – Tool #4: Storytelling – The power of narrative in understanding each other as human beings ⏳ [00:25:00] – Tool #5: Being Open to "I Never Thought of It That Way" Moments ⏳ [00:32:00] – Tool #6: Recognizing Your Line – Knowing when to step away from an unhealthy dynamic ⏳ [00:35:00] – Tool #7: Equipping Yourself – Books, organizations, and resources for learning how to engage better ⏳ [00:38:00] – Bonus Tip: Taking Care of Yourself – Mental, emotional, and physical well-being in this work Featured Quotes

Is it possible to have decent conversations across political differences. Short answer: Yeah! In this episode, host Corey Nathan explores how we can have meaningful, respectful, and productive conversations with those who think differently from us—politically, religiously, and ideologically. After four years of hosting the show and speaking with a wide array of guests, Corey shares his own insights, offering seven practical tools (plus a bonus tip) for engaging with “one of them” in a way that fosters connection rather than division. What Is Discussed How to give yourself and others grace in difficult conversations The importance of setting proper expectations when discussing sensitive topics Why asking the right questions is more powerful than having the perfect comeback How storytelling can humanize those with whom we disagree The value of being open to the phrase "I never thought of it that way" How to recognize when it's time to step away from a conversation or to love someone "from a safe distance" Resources and organizations that can help you navigate difficult discussions Episode Highlights ⏳ [00:02:00] – Reviews from listeners: the good, the bad, and the constructive ⏳ [00:05:00] – The purpose of this episode: sharing tools for engaging with "one of them" ⏳ [00:06:00] – Tool #1: Grace – Accepting that we will all make mistakes in these conversations ⏳ [00:09:00] – Tool #2: Proper Expectations – Why we shouldn't expect to change someone's mind 180 degrees ⏳ [00:12:00] – Tool #3: Asking Questions – Learning from Jesus' approach of responding with questions ⏳ [00:20:00] – Tool #4: Storytelling – The power of narrative in understanding each other as human beings ⏳ [00:25:00] – Tool #5: Being Open to "I Never Thought of It That Way" Moments ⏳ [00:32:00] – Tool #6: Recognizing Your Line – Knowing when to step away from an unhealthy dynamic ⏳ [00:35:00] – Tool #7: Equipping Yourself – Books, organizations, and resources for learning how to engage better ⏳ [00:38:00] – Bonus Tip: Taking Care of Yourself – Mental, emotional, and physical well-being in this work Featured Quotes

Brian grew up in a small Georgia town where religion wasn't part of his upbringing, though he was surrounded by churches. Angry at the concept of God, he viewed religious beliefs as a way to escape the fear of death. In high school, he became an atheist but befriended a popular group of Christians. Although he criticized their beliefs to fit in and feel superior, he couldn't shake the sense that their faith had something genuine and authentic. Guest Bio: Brian Smith is a Student Pastor at Dunwoody Baptist Church in the Metro of Atlanta. He has been in student ministry for 16 years, and is a loving husband and father of four. Resources Mentioned: I Never Thought of It That Way by Mónica Guzmán Blue Like Jazz by Donald Miller Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis Podcast: Within Reason Alex J O'Conner God in the Dock by C.S. Lewis The Great Divorce by C.S. Lewis The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis Connect with eX-skeptic: Website: https://exskeptic.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/exskeptic Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/exskeptic Twitter: http://x.com/exskeptic YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@exskeptic Email info: info@exskeptic.org

Matt Drinkhahn sits down with Ellen Petry Leanse for a thoughtful and impactful conversation about the power of curiosity, slowing down, and embracing life's natural seasons. Ellen shares insights from her deep experience in neuroscience, coaching, and personal reflection, offering practical tools like the ABC method (Aware, Breathe, Curiosity) and the power of open-ended questions to navigate challenges and foster connection. Together, Matt and Ellen explore the idea of the “midlife chrysalis” and how obstacles—especially those within ourselves—can become gifts if we choose to see them that way. This conversation is a guide to approaching life with presence, purpose, and a brain-aware mindset.Chapters00:00:00 – A Door Opens: Welcome to a Transformative Conversation00:00:24 – Meet Ellen: The Curious Brain Enthusiast00:01:23 – Behind the Brain: Where Science Meets Everyday Life00:03:39 – Curiosity: The Brain's Hidden Superpower00:06:23 – From Theory to Practice: Curiosity in Action00:09:35 – Life's Seasons: Navigating Growth and Change00:18:49 – The Chrysalis Moment: Midlife Reimagined00:22:23 – The Zipline Story: A Lesson from the Brink00:24:28 – Pain or Information? Redefining How We Process Suffering00:27:45 – Brain Balance: Finding the Equilibrium We Crave00:29:35 – The Journaling Effect: Magic in Daily Reflection00:32:18 – Core Values: The Blueprint for Inner Peace00:36:05 – The Obstacle Within: Confronting the Self00:37:51 – Dreams and Impact: A Future Worth Building00:39:53 – Final Threads: Wisdom to Carry ForwardBook RecommendationsI Never Thought of It That Way by Mónica GuzmánThe Source by Dr. Tara SwartLinks and ResourcesEllen Petry LeanseEllen on LinkedInEllen on InstagramThe Brain and BeyondThanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Eternal Optimist? Have some feedback you'd like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!

In this episode, Dale talks with Stefan McNinch, founder of UnboxEd, a nonprofit revolutionizing education through game-based learning. Explore how Stefan's work teaches financial literacy, persistence, and teamwork while addressing educational gaps in underserved communities. Discover why tabletop roleplaying games (TTRPGs) can be a better educational tool than traditional methods and how they transform students' attitudes toward failure into stepping stones for success.Listen to Stefan share insights into adapting games for learning objectives, the value of reframing failure, and the challenges of integrating TTRPGs into the classroom. Whether you're an educator, parent, or gamer, this conversation highlights how gaming can prepare students for the real world while sparking joy and creativity.UnboxEd website: https://unboxedclassroom.comWyrmworks Publishing Patreon: https://patreon.com/wyrmworkspublishingSign up for The Horde: Join the email list for updates!I Never Thought of It That Way by Mónica Guzmán00:00 Introduction: Can fantasy characters teach real-world skills better than traditional methods? 03:59 Guest intro: Stefan McNinch claims UnboxEd is solving what schools have ignored. 05:51 Entrepreneurship RPG: Teaching financial literacy – or is it gamifying survival skills? 10:44 Measuring success: Are engagement and persistence better metrics than grades? 13:06 Surprises: Is curiosity dead in today's kids – or are we failing to teach it? 17:26 Empathy through RPGs: Are we raising a generation of roleplayers, not real thinkers?

Toxic polarization is "the problem that eats all other problems... It's the sludge at the base of everything else," says our guest Mónica Guzmán. Think how much progress could be made on the great problems of today if politics were much more about discovering nuance than shouting slogans.This show is our second episode on the work, people, and ideas of the volunteer-led cross-partisan campaign, Braver Angels. In the coming months, we'll report on their initiatives and projects. Americans who are pissed off with politics are sometimes called "the exhausted majority." Many are tuning out toxic, divisive rhetoric that aims to settle scores instead of solving what's broken. Our guest, Braver Angels senior fellow Mónica Guzmán, has suggestions about how to be truly curious and have better conversations with those who see things differently.This loving liberal daughter of conservative immigrant parents who came to the US from Mexico, is a bridge builder, journalist and author. Her podcast is "A Braver Way". Modi's recent book is “I Never Thought of It That Way." Our "How Do We Fix It?" interview was recorded a couple years ago. This show includes highlights and also an extract from Móni's podcast. "When you want to ask why people believe what they believe, instead ask how they came to believe what they believe," she tells us. When you ask how instead of why, you're asking for their story and then what people do is take you on a tour instead of being put on trial."Additional InformationThe Democracy Group listener surveyHow Do We Fix It? PodcastMore shows from The Democracy Group

Móni Guzmán came to the US from Mexico with her family many decades ago. In the past two presidential elections, her parents voted for Trump while she voted for Clinton and Biden. This created the kind of tension that must be managed very carefully. Fortunately, and relatedly, Móni has professional experience with difficult conversations in her capacity as a senior fellow at Braver Angels. We lean heavily on the ideas in Móni's book, I Never Thought of It That Way, in this episode and throughout our 5-part series on getting along: Rupture + Repair. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Toxic polarization is "the problem that eats all other problems... It's the sludge at the base of everything else," says our guest Mónica Guzmán. Think how much progress could be made on the great problems of today if politics were much more about discovering nuance than shouting slogans.This show is our second episode on the work, people, and ideas of the volunteer-led cross-partisan campaign, Braver Angels. In the coming months, we'll report on their initiatives and projects. Americans who are pissed off with politics are sometimes called "the exhausted majority." Many are tuning out toxic, divisive rhetoric that aims to settle scores instead of solving what's broken. Our guest, Braver Angels senior fellow Mónica Guzmán, has suggestions about how to be truly curious and have better conversations with those who see things differently.This loving liberal daughter of conservative immigrant parents who came to the US from Mexico, is a bridge builder, journalist and author. Her podcast is "A Braver Way". Modi's recent book is “I Never Thought of It That Way." Our "How Do We Fix It?" interview was recorded a couple years ago. This show includes highlights and also an extract from Móni's podcast. "When you want to ask why people believe what they believe, instead ask how they came to believe what they believe," she tells us. When you ask how instead of why, you're asking for their story and then what people do is take you on a tour instead of being put on trial." Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

For years, Yale undergraduate students have lined up to take a wildly popular course called Life Worth Living. Bucking the highly competitive tone you might expect at an Ivy League school, the class teaches students to look beyond traditional markers of success for deeper meaning. Theology professor Miroslav Volf is one of the co-teachers, and also one of the co-authors of a book version of the course that came out last year called “Life Worth Living: A Guide to What Matters Most.” Podcast and TV host Kelly Corrigan invited Volf to introduce the book and start an extended and lively conversation with a wide variety of writers and thinkers at the 2023 Aspen Ideas Festival. After setting the stage with Volf, Corrigan poses probing questions to Mónica Guzmán, the author of “I Never Thought of It That Way” and a senior fellow at Braver Angels, James Ijames, a playwright who won a 2022 Pulitzer for his play “Fat Ham,” Alexandra Reeve Givens, a lawyer and CEO of the Center for Democracy and Technology, and Rainn Wilson, the actor who played Dwight Schrute on the TV show “The Office” and recently wrote a book about spirituality called “Soul Boom.” aspenideas.org

Atlas of the Heart by Brené Brown is such an incredible book, I couldn't contain it to one single episode. So, here's part 2 of ways we can connect better through understanding our emotions. There are a ton of resources, but mainly, if you want more from Brené Brown, visit her website at brenebrown.com. There is also a self-compassion test you can take and more resources at self-compassion.org. Related Zoo-notables include Part One of Atlas of the Heart as well as Braving the Wilderness by Brené Brown, I Never Thought of It That Way by Monica Guzman, and Love 2.0 by Barbara Fredrickson. Zoo-notable is a passion project of ZooFit, where we learn to take better care of ourselves so we can take better care of the animals and the world. When we feel better, we can do better. If you like what we are doing, consider joining the ZooFit Pride on Patreon. Get more insights with bonus Big Ideas, sneak peaks at future projects, and connect with me and other like-minded ZooFitters.

Moni Guzman came to the US from Mexico with her family many decades ago. In the past two presidential elections, her parents voted for Trump while she voted for Clinton and Biden. This created the kind of tension that must be managed very carefully. Fortunately, and relatedly, Moni has professional experience with difficult conversations in her capacity as a senior fellow at Braver Angels. We lean heavily on the ideas in Moni's book, I Never Thought of It That Way, in this episode and throughout our 5-part series on getting along: Rupture + Repair. Special thanks to the Arthur Vining Davis Foundations for their generous support of this series. Every Wednesday we send out our top takeaways of the week to listeners. If you'd like to receive that email, sign up here.

This week Tayla is joined by Pam Steager from Courageous RI, a Department of Homeland Security project to increase media literacy and prevent domestic terrorism. They talk about the projects that Courageous RI has implemented in order to increase media literacy among Rhode Islanders. They also discuss reading or work and pleasure, sci-fi as a reflection of our society, how much “the algorithm” knows about us.  During The Last Chapter they discuss: What are some titles you would recommend to people who want to learn more about media literacy? Podcast disclaimer Like what you hear? Rate and review Down Time on Apple Podcasts or your podcast player of choice! If you'd like to submit a topic for The Last Chapter you can send your suggestions to downtime@cranstonlibrary.org. Our theme music is Day Trips by Ketsa and our ad music is Happy Ukulele by Scott Holmes. Thanks for listening! Books Learning to Depolarize by Kent Lenci Necessary Trouble by Drew Gilpin Faust Saga by Brian K. Vaughan and Fiona Staples Born a Crime by Trevor Noah High Conflict by Amanda Ripley Mind Over Media by Renee Hobbs I Never Thought of It That Way by Mónica Guzmán AV Only Murders In the Building (2021- ) Roald Dahl's The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar (2023) Other Courageous RI

Julian Adorney is fighting our toxic political culture, both by striving to understand polarizing issues intellectually and with nuance, and also by confronting the deep and challenging emotions that are at the root of some of our most hostile rifts.  We explore the role of community, mentorship, and faith (or at least some kind of "north star"), the process of sorting out what we value and why, and follow a tangent toward mental health.@Julian_Liberty on TwitterJulian's articles at the Foundation for Economic EducationBraver Angels, the depolarization org at whose conference Jessie and Julian metMonica Guzman's book, I Never Though of It That Way (sponsored link)Theme music from TELL YOUR STORY music by ikson™Header by Pete Lindforth from Pixabay

Mónica Guzmán, the author of "I Never Thought of It That Way" helps us better understand how we can talk about the climate crisis with those who think differently about the dilemma; "Emails reveal Melbourne Water ignored conflict advice before flood inquiry scandal"; "Loss and damage finance: where the rubber hits the road for climate justice"; "‘Significant rain': Flood warning for northern NSW, SE Qld"; "Fifth Annual Climate Restoration Forum"; "The impacts of climate change on regional Australia" "Braver Angels"; "Eco-Anxiety and Hope for the Future"; "Girl Up"; "The Foundation for Climate Restoration"; "Water rights and energy top Indigenous talks agenda"; "New York City buildings turn to carbon capture"; "Gas 'open for business' during global energy transition"; "North West NSW Drivers Can Save $71M, Report Finds"; "Plibersek's pledge for no new extinctions under threat as researchers issue dire warning on Tasmanian maugean skate"; "Labor wants to help gas giants ‘scale up' carbon capture potential"; "Santos strikes deals to bury carbon dioxide under the Timor Sea"; "Gas chiefs plead for investment certainty as energy talks loom"; "Three things I've learnt on the road to help us break the climate logjam"; "A new source of fire records, hidden in the sands, gives us a bigger picture of the risks"; "Program to plant 20 million trees prioritised cost-saving over gains for nature, research finds"; "IMD issues 4th heatwave alert in Konkan region, other Maharashtra districts"; "Met Office verdict on 35C 'African plume' heatwave heading to the UK"; "Exhaustion sets in as cost of record flood reaches 'millions' for Eugowra residents"; "What is hydrogen and how is it key to Australia's green future?"; "National Renewables in Conference and Expo 2023"; "Meteorologists are the new targets in global social media misinformation"; "Four charts on the unstoppable growth of solar – our best hope against climate change"; "Can Australia reach its climate targets?"; "US climate agency declares chance of El Niño now above 90 per cent in 2023". --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/robert-mclean/message

Mónica Guzmán is Senior Fellow for Public Practice at Braver Angels, a nonprofit working to depolarize America. She's also founder and CEO of Reclaim Curiosity, an organization working to build a more curious world, and author of "I Never Thought Of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times."moniguzman.comI Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times, by Mónica Guzmán38: Curiosity Is a Skill We Can Learn, with Mónica Guzmán - Where We Go Next66: Embracing Commitment in an Age of Infinite Browsing, with Pete Davis - Where We Go NextBraver AngelsMónica Guzmán - I Never Thought of It That Way - with Jonathan Rauch - YouTubeHeineken: Worlds Apart Campaign - YouTubeWhy Would a Lefty Talk to Glenn Beck? | Monica Guzman | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 138 - YouTubeSelf-Reliance, by Ralph Waldo Emerson1: How to Bridge Political Divides, with John Wood, Jr. - Where We Go NextMónica's Twitter: @moniguzmanMónica's Instagram: @moniguzman----------Are you a fan of Where We Go Next? I'd love to hear from you. Listen to the very end of this episode for details.Email: wherewegopod@gmail.comInstagram: @wwgnpodcast

Are you ready to build bridges and create safe spaces where difficult conversations can happen, and REALLY understand one another? I Never Thought of It That Way can open your eyes and show us how curiosity and experiences make us better people, creating a better world. There is SO MUCH I loved about this book. Enjoy this Zoo-notable and reach out to meet others where they are. It's powerful and empowering! Ideas discussed that you can take action on: Virtues in Action Survey Individual Differences Research- Human Values Test Grab a copy of the book yourself: I Never Thought of It That Way Connect with ZooFit (as I explore this topic further on my blog)

Mónica Guzmán is a bridge-builder, journalist, entrepreneur, and author of I Never Thought of It That Way. She shares with us her concept of conversation dials and how that dynamic can play out in both in-person conversations and online communication. Her desire to help people understand one another is what drives her in her work as well as her daily life. Mónica shares how valuable trust is in conversation and why and how persuasion has become a lost art. Find out more about Mónica Guzmán's work with Braver Angels at braverangels.org and find more about her personal endeavors at moniguzman.com  Moni's book I Never Thought of It That Way is also available on Amazon.

This is the first episode in a three-part series about how to have difficult conversations with people who see the world differently, how to have better debates about contentious issues, and how to ethically and scientifically persuade one another about things that matter – in short, this is a three-part series about How Minds Change (which is also the title of my new book).There seems to be a movement afoot, a new wave of nonfiction about how to reduce all this argumentative madness and epistemic chaos. I want to boost everyone's signal on this issue, so I thought it would be nice to collaborate instead of compete, since that's part of what we are all proselytizing with these books.So this episode's guest is Mónica Guzmán, the author of I Never Thought of It That Way – a book with very practical advice on how to have productive conversations in a polarized political environment via authentic curiosity about where people's opinions, attitudes, and values come from. In short, it's about how to reduce polarization and learn from those with whom we disagree by establishing the sort of dynamic in which they will eagerly learn from us as well.- How Minds Change: www.davidmcraney.com/howmindschangehome- Show Notes: www.youarenotsosmart.com- Newsletter: https://davidmcraney.substack.com- David McRaney's Twitter: https://twitter.com/davidmcraney- YANSS Twitter: https://twitter.com/notsmartblog- Mónica Guzmán's Website: https://www.moniguzman.com- Mónica Guzmán's Twitter: https://twitter.com/moniguzman- I Never Thought of it That Way: https://www.moniguzman.com/book- Braver Angels: https://braverangels.org- My Article on Intellectual Humility: https://bigthink.com/the-well/change-your-mind-intellectual-humility/

One of the central themes of this show is the importance of the stories we tell about ourselves. But in focusing on the egocentric stakes of storytelling, one of the things we overlook—I certainly do—is the importance of the stories we tell about others.We make sense of life in the terms of our own experience. We conceptualize the world in a way that corresponds to what we've seen and what we understand. This allows us to tell our own story in a pretty nuanced way. But it limits us in the kind of stories we can tell about others—particularly others who, for political or cultural or social reasons, might be very different from us. We put other people into a box: and not the box that would best fit them, but rather one of the ones we have lying around which we've previously used to make sense of our own world.This is a topic I've thought about a lot in my writing, my previous choice of podcast guests, and in my academic research—but what I love about my guest today is that she, more than anyone else I know, has actually lived it. Mónica Guzmán is a journalist and Director of Storytelling at Braver Angels, America's largest grassroots organization dedicated to political depolarization. Her new book is I Never Thought of It That Way, in which she explores her own experience trying to connect people across political and social divides.In this conversation, Mónica and I cover so much: from the importance of stories in movies and TV, to our relationships with our families, to Mónica's specific tactics for understanding others. But one of the things that stood out to me is this great line she gives later in the conversation about modern life being “tired, scared, and busy.” It reminded me of the famous characterization of pre-modern life by Thomas Hobbes: nasty, brutish, and short.I think it speaks to something, it's so easy to forget: Each of us is living out our own complicated human experience. There is no one who has everything figured out, no one who has reached the point of quiescence. It's easy to see other people—particularly those with different beliefs from our own—as emblematic of some nefarious other way of life. But, when it comes down to it, there's no simple way through existence. Everyone is dealing with their own struggle. We're better off as human beings the more we can come to appreciate the process of that struggle, rather than judge its results.Mónica's book is I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times. It's out now.Monica's choices for three books that have most influenced her:* The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho* Self-Reliance by Ralph Waldo Emerson* Midnight in Paris (the movie) This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit codykommers.substack.com/subscribe

In our highly polarized times, everyone seems obsessed with the truth: what is it, who has it, and which side's got it all wrong. What we don't seem to care about, says journalist Monica Guzman, is the truth behind perspectives other than our own. Listen as Guzman and host Russ Roberts discuss Guzman's book I Never Thought of It That Way, a call to get interested in the people behind the positions, and the experiences, hopes, and fears that lead to their beliefs. Guzman and Roberts also discuss the role of great questions in sparking meaningful conversations, and how we can not only get along with, but even learn from, those with whom we ardently disagree.

0:00 Mónica's book I Never Thought of It That Way, about how to have “bridge-building” conversations 1:41 Why Mónica's immigrant parents support(ed) Trump 7:02 Barriers to getting bridge-building buy-in 15:37 Understanding vs. the need to be understood 21:58 Bridge-building 101 27:39 Is understanding a slippery slope to excusing? 33:35 The underrated bridge-building power of curiosity 43:44 Does the media fuel or just reflect our divisions? 43:40 The limits of bridge-buildingRobert Wright (Bloggingheads.tv, The Evolution of God, Nonzero, Why Buddhism Is True) and Mónica Guzmán (Braver Angels). Recorded December 01, 2022. Comments on BhTV: http://bloggingheads.tv/videos/65345 Twitter: https://twitter.com/bloggingheads Facebook: https://facebook.com/bloggingheads/ Podcasts: https://bloggingheads.tv/subscribe This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nonzero.substack.com/subscribe

Mónica's book I Never Thought of It That Way, about how to have “bridge-building” conversations ... Why Mónica's immigrant parents support(ed) Trump ... Barriers to getting bridge-building buy-in ... Understanding vs. the need to be understood ... Bridge-building 101 ... Is understanding a slippery slope to excusing? ... The underrated bridge-building power of curiosity ... Does the media fuel or just reflect our divisions? ... The limits of bridge-building ...

In this week's episode, Mónica Guzmán visits with Jerri and Jamie to talk about her new book “I Never Thought of It That Way,” which provides readers with a roadmap for difficult conversations between people on opposing ends of the political spectrum. During her visit, Mónica shares valuable insights into the sources of political polarization and practices for people who seek to build bridges and connections in these difficult times. Ultimately, Mónica's suggestions show listeners that we can change the world through listening, building empathy, and searching for deeper human connections. --- ABOUT OUR GUEST Mónica Guzmán is a bridge builder, journalist, and entrepreneur who lives for great conversations sparked by curious questions. She's director of digital and storytelling at Braver Angels, the nation's largest cross-partisan grassroots organization working to depolarize America; host of live interview series at Crosscut; and co-founder of the award-winning Seattle newsletter The Evergrey. --- SUBSCRIBE TO THE SERIES: YouTube | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | Overcast | RadioPublic | Stitcher FOLLOW US: Website | Facebook | Twitter | LinkedIn POWERED BY CLASSLINK: ClassLink provides one-click single sign-on into web and Windows applications, and instant access to files at school and in the cloud. Accessible from any computer, tablet, or smartphone, ClassLink is ideal for 1to1 and Bring Your Own Device (BYOD) initiatives. Learn more at classlink.com.

Journalist Mónica Guzmán is the loving liberal daughter of Mexican immigrants who voted twice for Donald Trump. Mónica is also the chief storyteller for the national cross-partisan depolarization organization Braver Angels, which brings her to the real front lines of a crisis that threatens to grind America to a halt—broken conversations among confounded people. In this episode, CIIS Director of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Damali Robertson talks with Mónica about her life, work, and her recent book, I Never Thought of It That Way, in which she shares ways for us all to have fearlessly curious conversations. This episode was recorded during a live online event on March 24th, 2022. A transcript is available at ciispod.com. To find out more about CIIS and public programs like this one, visit our website ciis.edu and connect with us on social media @ciispubprograms. We hope that each episode of our podcast provides opportunities for growth, and that our listeners will use them as a starting point for further introspection. Many of the topics discussed on our podcast have the potential to bring up feelings and emotional responses. If you or someone you know is in need of mental health care and support, here are some resources to find immediate help and future healing: -Visit 988lifeline.org or text, call, or chat with The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline by dialing 988 from anywhere in the U.S. to be connected immediately with a trained counselor. Please note that 988 staff are required to take all action necessary to secure the safety of a caller and initiate emergency response with or without the caller's consent if they are unwilling or unable to take action on their own behalf. -Visit thrivelifeline.org or text “THRIVE” to begin a conversation with a THRIVE Lifeline crisis responder 24/7/365, from anywhere: +1.313.662.8209. This confidential text line is available for individuals 18+ and is staffed by people in STEMM with marginalized identities. -Visit translifeline.org or call (877) 565-8860 in the U.S. or (877) 330-6366 in Canada to learn more and contact Trans Lifeline, who provides trans peer support divested from police. -Visit ciis.edu/counseling-and-acupuncture-clinics to learn more and schedule counseling sessions at one of our centers. -Find information about additional global helplines at https://www.befrienders.org/.

How do you talk to those people—you know, the people on the other side? What if they're your in-laws? What if they're not idiots after all? Or what if you are too? We talk about ideas versus ideologies (a big part of Bruce's next book), and handle a listener question. The book we refer to is I Never Thought of It That Way by Monica Guzman, and the website we mention is braverangels.org. Dr. Chalmer's book Reigniting the Spark: Why Stable Relationships Lose Intimacy, and How to Get It Back is available here, or wherever you get your books. Like this podcast? Review us, like us, follow us, and do all those other kinds of wonderful things to us! It helps people find the show. Visit us at ctin7.com! Music: Besamim (Spices) by Bruce Chalmer, performed by Fyre and Lightning Consort

Her realization that if she'd led the life her parents have, then she would have voted for Trump too, was an insight that contributed to her decision to write her new book, I Never Thought of It That Way. The book is both a diagnosis of, and a prescription for, the ugly polarization that is gripping today's America.

Monica Guzmán and Daniel Acosta-Rivas share intimate stories about growing up in their respective Hispanic contexts and the diversity of the Hispanic world. They offer riveting insights on why the Hispanic community is underrepresented in organizations like Braver Angels and why Venezuela's population may, shockingly, be less divided than America's, illustrating the unique power of its approach to bridge-building.  Daniel, originally from Venezuela, currently lives in Washington, D.C. and works for Stand Together. He is a recent graduate of American University, where he founded the Students for Free Expression chapter. Mónica Guzmán is the director of digital & storytelling at Braver Angels and the author of the bestseller I Never Thought of It That Way. Twitter: @braverangels, @moniguzman, @AprilALawson  

Mónica Guzmán is a professional bridge-builder who joins Andrew for a conversation on having difficult conversations in divided times. Monica talks about the importance of curiosity, what it means to "contain" a conversation, and how to discuss politics with family. Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/1zoKY6yCmmc I Never Thought of It That Way: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/691561/i-never-thought-of-it-that-way-by-monica-guzman/ Follow Mónica Guzmán: https://twitter.com/moniguzman | https://moniguzman.com Follow Andrew Yang: https://twitter.com/andrewyang | https://forwardparty.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Bridging the Partisan Divide | What does it mean to engage with someone on the other side of the political aisle? Mónica Guzmán has made it her mission to answer this question and facilitate thoughtful, constructive dialogue between the political left and right in the United States. In her latest book, I Never Thought of It That Way, she explores the ways in which American citizens can move beyond political barriers and work together to create a less divided political system. In this episode of How to Fix Democracy, she joins host Andrew Keen to discuss the dire state of the political landscape in the United States today, as well as steps that we can take to fix it. She explores the ways in which she is able to engage with people who believe differently than her, and the events in her life which have led her to this place.

There's no way around it — it's a challenging time in America. Societies have lived through pandemics and political strife before, but never with powerful tools like social media and the Internet. It makes for a special brand of division that most of us have experienced in some way, from dinner table arguments with relatives to heated interactions at the grocery store. Have we forgotten how to interact and connect, despite our differences? Journalist Mónica Guzmán knows the struggle all too well. She's the liberal daughter of Mexican immigrants who voted — twice — for Donald Trump. She's also the chief storyteller for the national cross-partisan depolarization organization Braver Angels, which works to bring Americans together and strengthen our democratic republic. When the country could no longer see straight across the political divide, Guzmán set out to cut through the fog and discovered the most eye-opening tool we're not using: our own curiosity. In her new book, I Never Thought of It That Way, Guzmán drew from conversations she's had, organized, or witnessed everywhere, from the echo chambers on social media to the raw, unfiltered fights with her family on election night. Guzmán shared how to put a natural sense of wonder to work by talking with people — rather than about them — and asking tough, meaningful questions across divides while maintaining openness and curiosity. Together with political cartoonist David Horsey, Guzmán discussed how to overcome fear, labels, and assumptions and have human conversations with people whose identities and values are different from, or even opposed to, our own. Mónica Guzmán is a journalist and entrepreneur who lives for good conversation sparked by challenging questions. She's the cofounder of The Evergrey, an award-winning newsletter and community in Seattle, and serves as an adviser to Braver Angels, a national organization out to depolarize America, and Together Washington, an organization building collaborative local relationships among leaders in Washington state. Mónica is a former columnist at The Seattle Times, GeekWire, and the Columbia Journalism Review. She studied social and political division as a 2019 Henry M. Jackson leadership fellow, and spent the 2015-2016 academic year studying how journalists can evolve to better meet the needs of a participatory public as a Nieman Fellow at Harvard. She is an immigrant, a Latina, a dual U.S.-Mexico citizen, and the mom of two bilingual kids. David Horsey is a two-time recipient of the Pulitzer Prize for political cartooning. Syndicated by Tribune Content Agency, David's work has appeared in hundreds of media outlets, including The New York Times, The Washington Post, USA Today, Politico, and MSNBC.com. After a long career at Seattle Post-Intelligencer and six years as a political commentator for The Los Angeles Times, Horsey is now based at The Seattle Times. Buy the Book: I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times (Hardcover) from Elliott Bay Books Presented by Town Hall Seattle, the Henry M. Jackson Foundation, and the Western Washington Braver Angels Alliance.

How'd you hear about The Purple Principle? Click here to answer our one question survey: https://fluentknowledge.com/tpp-survey Our TPP guest this episode, Mónica Guzmán of Braver Angels, is a fascinating conversationalist who knows how to stop a conversation, particularly among blue-leaning Seattle friends discussing politics. Guzmán merely mentions that her Mexican immigrant parents avidly supported Donald Trump and the room goes silent. We kick off Episode 8 of Season 3, “Like Family, Like Nation,” with Guzmán's retelling of that conversation stopper also featured in her new book, I Never Thought of It That Way. Part personal memoir, part communication guide, the book is informed by her work at Braver Angels, one of the nation's most successful facilitators of cross-partisan dialogue.  “The opinion…. is just above the surface,” observes Guzmán. “Underneath is everything that backs it up, all their experiences.” As a result, she cautions that, “you're not going to change someone's mind in the course of conversation unless they were already at the cusp of changing it on their own.”  Important points from a uniquely qualified voice. Tune in for an entertaining and informative episode on the challenges and rewards of communication across the great American divides.  Original music by Ryan Adair Rooney SHOW NOTES Our Guests Mónica Guzmán: Director of Digital & Storytelling at Braver Angels, Host of Civic Cocktail, and Author of I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times. Mónica Guzmán's website, Twitter  Visit our website for a list of additional resources related to today's episode: fluentknowledge.com/shows/the-purple-principle/monica-guzman Join Us for Premium Content: Apple: https://link.chtbl.com/PurpleApple Patreon: patreon.com/purpleprinciplepodcast Find us online! Twitter: @purpleprincipl Facebook: @thepurpleprinciplepodcast Instagram: @thepurpleprinciplepodcast Our website: https://bit.ly/2ZCpFaQ Sign up for our newsletter: https://bit.ly/2UfFSja 

After the 2016 election, journalist Monica Guzman heard nonstop from her fellow liberals that Trump voters were awful. But her parents — Mexican immigrants like her — were Trump voters, and they were nothing like what she was hearing. So, that piqued her curiosity: Instead of separating herself from people she disagreed with, she devoted herself to asking WHY they believed what they did. Now, it's the focus of her new book, “I Never Thought of It That Way.” Monica, the director of digital and storytelling at Braver Angels, a grassroots organization dedicated to bridging the partisan divide, joins Glenn to discuss where the divide came from, where the media went wrong, and what every American must do to overcome it. And they find they agree on much more than any polarized stereotypes would have predicted. Sponsors: Formulated by Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, the world-renowned doctor that President Trump credited with his successful early treatment protocol, Z-Stack is Kosher and GMP certified, and is produced right here in the USA. Go to https://ZSTACKLIFE.COM/BECK and enter the promo code BECK to get 5% off your first order. The ministry of Pre-Born and Blaze Media are partnering to help rescue babies from abortion in 2022. To donate, dial pound 250 and say keyword “BABY”, or go to https://preborn.com/glenn Cooking and grilling at home used to be the way to save money, but with prices up nearly 20%, even that seems like a thing of the past. If you're looking to save money without sacrificing quality, then you need to check out Good Ranchers. Get your $30 discount on prime steaks and better than organic chicken today. Go to goodranchers.com/GLENN to save on the quality you've been looking for.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's no surprise to anyone that Americans today are deeply divided. How do we have conversations with the people we vehemently disagree with on, well — everything? Journalist Mónica Guzmán is the liberal daughter of Mexican immigrants who voted — twice — for Donald Trump. She joins KIRO Radio's Colleen O'Brien and Dave Ross to discuss an organization that's been putting people from all across the political spectrum in the same room to talk about everything from stolen elections to the Black Lives Matter movement. Her book is I Never Thought of It That Way, available for purchase here. Mónica Guzmán will be in conversation with political cartoonist David Horsey at Seattle's Town Hall on March 22nd, 2022. Tickets available here. And you can find a Braver Angels event to attend here. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How can we find common ground with others who are different than us without throwing away our values? Journalist and Braver Angels director Monica Guzman's new book, "I Never Thought of It That Way" describes how to stay curious, engage with others, and have those difficult conversations. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Drew Perkins talks with Mónica Guzmán about her new book, I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times, and her work with Braver Angels and the applications to great teaching and learning. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode: Order I Never Thought of It That Way moniguzman.com Mónica's LinkTree @moniguzman Braver Angels The TeachThought Podcast Ep. 210 Polarization, Racism, And Education The TeachThought Podcast Ep. 154 Depolarizing America Through Inquiry And Critical Thinking Visit wegrowteachers.com for info on our workshops and services.

Host Ruben Navarrette interviews Monica Guzman, journalist, storyteller and author of the forthcoming book, "I Never Thought of It That Way" about the power of curiosity and the value of being able to see even the most divisive issues from the point of view of someone else. Guest: Monica Guzman, journalist, storyteller, and author of the forthcoming book, "I Never Thought of It That Way"

Estuvimos junto a Andrés del Real comentando la situación del Lollapalooza y el reciente anuncio que hizo la productora Lotus sobre no llevar a cabo el próximo festival en el Parque O'Higgins. Las víctimas de la tragedia ocurrida en Astroworld presentaron una demanda $ 750 millones en contra de Travis Scott y Drake. Con formato híbrido vuelve después de dos años la Feria Pulsar a Estación Mapocho. Meghan Markle aparece en otra inesperada entrevista: Esta vez en el programa de Ellen DeGeneres: "The Ellen Show".  "I want It That Way" de los Backstreet Boys superó el billón de reproducciones en YouTube.

Today I want to talk about 2 really awesome things that happened this past week!  The first is a new discipline technique that was a little crazy.  I am thinking that the stay at home order has gotten to me and I have lost my mind.  The second is a mindfulness activity that my husband and I did that took our minds off the negativity for a while. ---------------------------------- Helpful Resources in this Episode: ---------------------------------- * 15 Minute Zumba Workouts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNQUdcRKYOQ ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNQUdcRKYOQ ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQcH0d9h8XU ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQcH0d9h8XU ) * My clucking version of "I want It That Way" ( https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YSGkegvkoHrfBYb1I5eE-EODMyFr40xe/view?usp=sharing ) by the Backstreet Boys. * Lizzie Larock's Blog ( https://www.larockstarcreative.com/ ) where you can get a copy of the Photo Walk Guide * Our photo walk photos on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/CATmuBGJBoS/ ( https://www.instagram.com/p/CATmuBGJBoS/ ) https://www.instagram.com/p/CATmjPzJnOR/ ( https://www.instagram.com/p/CATmjPzJnOR/ ) * Join my Facebook Group: facebook.com/groups/yddoa ( http://facebook.com/groups/yddoa ) Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy