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On this episode of Samuel’s Thoughts a catchup on what is going on then I go Vlog Brothers style to respond to one of my friend Donovans questions on his podcast about how I handle being informed in the stabby age we find ourselves in. How Minds Change: https://a.co/d/cO9fBAc To find previous episodes go to: … Continue reading Samuel's Thoughts 169: Informed but Sane?! →
In this episode we return to The Dress and the psychological lessons offered by one of the most viral moments in the history of the internet via an episode of Decoder Ring in which David McRaney shares some insights from his book, How Minds Change, with Willa Paskin, the host of Decoder Ring.Decoder RingDecoder Ring's The Dress PageWilla Paskin's TwitterCBC Interview with Willa PaskinKittedHow Minds ChangeDavid McRaney's TwitterYANSS TwitterShow NotesNewsletterPatreon
On this episode I’m joined for another car ride with Jacob as we test out my new Neewer CM28 microphones and have a conversation about positivity in content and why negativity is such a tempting path. How Minds Change: https://a.co/d/7akGesS To find previous episodes go to:tscn.tv/st To subscribe to this podcast putthis link in your … Continue reading Samuel's Thoughts 165: Accentuate The Positive →
What You'll Learn: In this episode, hosts Patrick Adams, and David McRaney discuss the essential approach in guiding individuals through difficult topics without triggering defensive responses. About the Guest: David McRaney is a science journalist with a deep fascination for brains, minds, and culture. He is best known for creating the blog, bestselling book, and podcast *You Are Not So Smart*, which explores self-delusion and motivated reasoning. McRaney's work, which began as a blog in 2009, quickly gained international acclaim, with the book version being translated into 19 languages. The podcast continues to feature interviews with leading scientists in psychology, focusing on reasoning, decision-making, and judgment. His second book, *You Are Now Less Dumb* (2013), and his third book, *How Minds Change* (2022), further expanded his exploration of human behavior and thought processes. McRaney frequently lectures globally on these topics, engaging audiences with his insights on how we think and why we believe what we do. Before his writing career, McRaney worked in various roles, including newspaper reporting, covering Hurricane Katrina and human interest stories across the Deep South. He has also been an editor, photographer, voiceover artist, TV host, and teacher. In addition, he spent several years as the head of digital media for WDAM-TV, where he produced *The Green Couch Sessions*, a music TV show highlighting Southern artists. His diverse experience even extends to commercial work for brands like Heineken and Reebok. Most recently, McRaney produced and recorded a six-hour audio documentary on the history and concept of "genius," further showcasing his wide-ranging interests and expertise. Links: Click Here For David McRaney's LinkedIn Click Here For Patrick Adams' LinkedIn --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/leansolutions/support
On this episode of Mormonish Podcast, Rebecca and Landon are joined by Kendel Christensen to discuss the science behind changing your mind or changing other people's minds.Kendel originally presented this info at one of our The Good Book Club Meetings and we thought it was so important and relevant, we asked him to bring it to Mormonish.Kendel draws from the insights found in Dave McKraney's book, "How Minds Change" to present a window into our thought processes and resistance to change, for good reason.***How to DONATE to Mormonish Podcast: If you would like to help financially support our podcast, you can DONATE to support Mormonish Podcast here:Mormonish Podcast is a 501(c) (3) https://donorbox.org/mormonish-podcast ****WE HAVE MERCH! **** If you'd like to purchase Mormonish Merch, you can visit our Merch store here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/mormonishmerch We appreciate our Mormonish viewers and listeners so much! Don't forget to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE to Mormonish Podcast! Contact Mormonish Podcast: mormonishpodcast@gmail.comFAIR USE DISCLAIMERAll Media in this video (including the thumbnail) is used for the purpose of review and critique. The images in the thumbnail are used as the primary means of visually identifying the subject matter of the video.
James and Holley are joined by best-selling author David McRaney; creator of "You Are Not So Smart," "You Are Now Less Dumb," and "How Minds Change." McRaney also operates the "You Are Not So Smart" podcast. In his work, McRaney explains various psychological phenomena and seeks to answer difficult psychological questions like "why we are the way we are" and "why our choices are psychological." Music for the episode provided by Hattiesburg music legend, Cary Hudson.
James and Holley are joined by best-selling author David McRaney; creator of "You Are Not So Smart," "You Are Now Less Dumb," and "How Minds Change." McRaney also operates the "You Are Not So Smart" podcast. In his work, McRaney explains various psychological phenomena and seeks to answer difficult psychological questions like "why we are the way we are" and "why our choices are psychological." Music for the episode provided by Hattiesburg music legend, Cary Hudson.
Welcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: Effectively Handling Disagreements - Introducing a New Workshop, published by Camille Berger on April 17, 2024 on LessWrong. On May 25th, 2023, someone posted a review of How Minds Change on LessWrong. It talked about Street Epistemology, Deep Canvassing, and Smart Politics, ways of handling disagreements that open the possibility of rational belief progression through amicable discussions. Summarized quickly, they rely on active listening, sharing personal stories and socratic questioning. You can now learn all of those three techniques online, for free, in 4 hours, and in a Deliberate Practice setting. If interested, you can also learn them in an in-person workshop spanning anytime between 2 hours and a full weekend -just shoot me an email with the object EHD (at the time of writing, I'm based in Paris, France). You can enroll on the website (see bottom for subscribing to the mailing list), and join the discord server. About the workshop: What would you learn? When you find yourself in disagreement with someone on a significant issue, and they might not share your perspectives or even show resistance towards them, it's natural to seek a productive dialogue. The goal is to have a conversation that brings both parties closer to understanding the truth. However, jumping directly into counter-arguments often proves counterproductive, leading to further resistance or increasingly complex counterpoints. It's easy to label the other person as "irrational" in these moments. To navigate these conversations more effectively, I'm offering a workshop that introduces a range of techniques based on evidence and mutual agreement. These methods are designed to facilitate discussions about deeply held beliefs in a friendly manner, keeping the focus on the pursuit of truth. Techniques are the following: 4h version: Deep Canvassing Street Epistemology Narrative Transportation Cooling Conversations (Smart Politics) 12h version: All the aforementioned plus Principled Negotiation and bits of Motivational Interviewing Who is this for? I'm mainly targeting people who are not used to such interactions, or feel frustrated by them -as such, you might not learn a lot if you are already used to managing high-stakes interactions. In the specific case of Rationality/EA, this would allow you to : Expand the community's awareness by easing exchanges with outsiders e.g. if you are a professional researcher in AI Safety wanting to discuss with other researchers who are skeptical of your field. Carefully spread awareness about Rat/EA-related ideas and cause areas e.g. you are talking about EA and someone starts being confrontational. Improve the accuracy of LW's / EA's / -themes public perception e.g. if you meet someone in your local university or twitter thread who has beliefs about these themes you disagree with. Help people inside and outside of the community to align their beliefs with truth e.g. if you're leading a discussion about veganism during a fellowship. Please note however that this is not exclusively thought for or dispensed to the aforementioned communities. Why? It's important, as individuals and as a community, that we're able to communicate effectively with people who disagree with us. I'd like to offer an opportunity for people to practice some skills together, such as managing an angry interlocutor, creating contact with someone who might identify us as opponents, and discussing both respectfully and rigorously with people whose beliefs seem very far from ours. Why a workshop? All techniques can be learned online. However, a workshop is often an important factor in kickstarting curiosity for them, as well as a good opportunity to practice in a secure environment. I also wanted to create a way to learn these effectively through deliberate practice, something I hadn't met so far, b...
Link to original articleWelcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: Effectively Handling Disagreements - Introducing a New Workshop, published by Camille Berger on April 17, 2024 on LessWrong. On May 25th, 2023, someone posted a review of How Minds Change on LessWrong. It talked about Street Epistemology, Deep Canvassing, and Smart Politics, ways of handling disagreements that open the possibility of rational belief progression through amicable discussions. Summarized quickly, they rely on active listening, sharing personal stories and socratic questioning. You can now learn all of those three techniques online, for free, in 4 hours, and in a Deliberate Practice setting. If interested, you can also learn them in an in-person workshop spanning anytime between 2 hours and a full weekend -just shoot me an email with the object EHD (at the time of writing, I'm based in Paris, France). You can enroll on the website (see bottom for subscribing to the mailing list), and join the discord server. About the workshop: What would you learn? When you find yourself in disagreement with someone on a significant issue, and they might not share your perspectives or even show resistance towards them, it's natural to seek a productive dialogue. The goal is to have a conversation that brings both parties closer to understanding the truth. However, jumping directly into counter-arguments often proves counterproductive, leading to further resistance or increasingly complex counterpoints. It's easy to label the other person as "irrational" in these moments. To navigate these conversations more effectively, I'm offering a workshop that introduces a range of techniques based on evidence and mutual agreement. These methods are designed to facilitate discussions about deeply held beliefs in a friendly manner, keeping the focus on the pursuit of truth. Techniques are the following: 4h version: Deep Canvassing Street Epistemology Narrative Transportation Cooling Conversations (Smart Politics) 12h version: All the aforementioned plus Principled Negotiation and bits of Motivational Interviewing Who is this for? I'm mainly targeting people who are not used to such interactions, or feel frustrated by them -as such, you might not learn a lot if you are already used to managing high-stakes interactions. In the specific case of Rationality/EA, this would allow you to : Expand the community's awareness by easing exchanges with outsiders e.g. if you are a professional researcher in AI Safety wanting to discuss with other researchers who are skeptical of your field. Carefully spread awareness about Rat/EA-related ideas and cause areas e.g. you are talking about EA and someone starts being confrontational. Improve the accuracy of LW's / EA's / -themes public perception e.g. if you meet someone in your local university or twitter thread who has beliefs about these themes you disagree with. Help people inside and outside of the community to align their beliefs with truth e.g. if you're leading a discussion about veganism during a fellowship. Please note however that this is not exclusively thought for or dispensed to the aforementioned communities. Why? It's important, as individuals and as a community, that we're able to communicate effectively with people who disagree with us. I'd like to offer an opportunity for people to practice some skills together, such as managing an angry interlocutor, creating contact with someone who might identify us as opponents, and discussing both respectfully and rigorously with people whose beliefs seem very far from ours. Why a workshop? All techniques can be learned online. However, a workshop is often an important factor in kickstarting curiosity for them, as well as a good opportunity to practice in a secure environment. I also wanted to create a way to learn these effectively through deliberate practice, something I hadn't met so far, b...
David McRaney is a science journalist with a deep interest in brains, minds, and culture. He is the creator of the blog, book, and podcast "You Are Not So Smart," which was initiated to understand self-delusion and motivated reasoning. His journey, however, began with diverse experiences, including construction work, selling leather coats, and owning two pet stores. In 2009, McRaney started his blog, which quickly evolved into an internationally bestselling book, translated into 17 languages, and later into a popular podcast. This podcast, once a part of Boing Boing, features interviews with scientists exploring the psychology of reasoning, decision-making, and judgment. McRaney has authored two more books: "You Are Now Less Dumb," released in 2013, and "How Minds Change," released in 2022. Additionally, he travels globally to give lectures on these subjects. His early career as a newspaper reporter saw him covering Hurricane Katrina, NASA's rocket testing, and more. Beyond journalism, McRaney's career includes roles as an editor, photographer, voiceover artist, television host, journalism teacher, lecturer, and even a tornado survivor. Following "How Minds Change," McRaney wrote, produced, and recorded a six-hour audio documentary delving into the history of the concept and the term "genius." Today, we learn about David's childhood, and early passion for journalism. We have a deep, broad discussion about our decision-making with a realization that we are not that smart. David has some strong comments about the dance between the emotional and the rational brain. We tie it back to investing, the field where we are supposed to be rational and without emotions, but is it really the best advice? My guest shares some thoughts about changing our minds, and how to go about it. Stay tuned until the end, when we talk about the meaning of the word genius. As much as the word might feel familiar, I've been looking at it differently since my conversation with David. https://www.davidmcraney.com/ NEVER INVESTMENT ADVICE. IMPORTANT: As a reminder, the remarks in this interview represent the views, opinions, and experiences of the participants and are based upon information they believe to be reliable; however, Sicart Associates nor I have independently verified all such remarks. The content of this podcast is for general, informational purposes, and so are the opinions of members of Sicart Associates, a registered investment adviser, and guests of the show. This podcast does not constitute a recommendation to buy or sell any specific security or financial instruments or provide investment advice or service. Past performance is not indicative of future results. More information on Sicart Associates is available via its Form ADV disclosure documents available adviserinfo.sec.gov --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/talking-billions/message
In this episode of Beltway Broadcast, your Metro DC Chapter of ATD hosts David McRaney. David is a science journalist fascinated with brains, minds, and culture. He is a speaker, the podcast host of You Are Not So Smart, and the author of You Are Not So Smart, You Are Now Less Dumb, and How Minds Change. In this episode, David shares the latest research of psychologists and neuroscientists, and discusses why some people never change their minds and others do in an instant. If you'd like to learn more about David, visit his website. Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed by guests on this podcast are solely those of the individual speakers and do not necessarily represent or reflect the views and opinions of the Metro DC Chapter of ATD, hosts, or sponsors. For more info about the Metro DC Chapter of ATD, visit DCATD.org. Episode Credits: Series Announcer: Julie Waters Hosts: Christina Eanes, Stephanie Hubka, and Halyna Hodges
There are times we can answer a question without much thought. If we were to examine the reasons why we gave the answer, would we change our response? Today's guest is David McRaney. David is a journalist, author, and lecturer fascinated with brains, minds, and culture. He has created a blog, book, and ongoing podcast entitled You Are Not So Smart which is about self-delusion. His most recent book, How Minds Change, is all about the science behind how and why people do and do not change their mind and the intricacies and nuances of persuasion. Show Notes: [1:09] - David shares what he does as a science journalist and how he found himself interested in the topics he writes and speaks about. [4:38] - The way people work has always fascinated him. [6:50] - David shares a story about psychology that really excited him. [8:35] - In the height of blogging's popularity, David began his blog You Are Not So Smart. [9:57] - David explains what the Introspection Illusion is. [12:31] - If you want something, you will come up with reasons why. [13:40] - An example of this is when you share what you like about another person. [15:59] - This concept can be looked at as delusion, but it's really just how brains work. [19:30] - What do you have in place to approach your own feelings and beliefs? [23:08] - David and Chris go through an exercise to demonstrate guided metacognition. [27:00] - We can answer some questions quickly, but others need more thought. [30:00] - The technique that David demonstrated is used to allow people more introspection. [32:22] - Start with things that you love and practice this technique. [33:37] - David and Chris talk about conspiracy theories and how to improve critical thinking. [35:27] - ConspiracyTest.org is a site that gives you a score on how susceptible you are to conspiratorial thinking. [37:48] - Conspiracy theories seem much more prevalent now, but conspiratorial thinking is no more rampant than it has been in the past. [39:32] - What should we do if a friend or family member has fallen into conspiratorial thinking? [42:17] - Finding reasons to rationalize conspiracy theories has never been easier with the internet. [44:31] - There are reasons that some people are more attuned to this thinking and some are more skeptical. [48:36] - Think about a scenario and imagine your initial reaction. [49:33] - Build rapport and assure the other person that you are not out to shame them. Get out of the debate frame. [52:01] - You can have conversations that don't end in a dead end. [55:13] - Reactance is when someone takes away your agency. Thanks for joining us on Easy Prey. Be sure to subscribe to our podcast on iTunes and leave a nice review. Links and Resources: Podcast Web Page Facebook Page whatismyipaddress.com Easy Prey on Instagram Easy Prey on Twitter Easy Prey on LinkedIn Easy Prey on YouTube Easy Prey on Pinterest David McRaney's Website The Conspiracy Theory Test You Are Not Smart Podcast
In this episode David McRaney is interviewed by Andrea Chalupa about the psychological research covered in How Minds Change that could help if you expect to spend time with a family member this holiday who can't wait to pull you into an argument about politics, a wedge issue, or something else buzzing in the zeitgeist over which they'd love to start a fight. But, also, this is good stuff to know before ANY contentious conversation you might have in the future with someone who is quick to aggression and ready to get angry over how your opinion isn't their opinion. • Gaslit Nation• Transcript• Andrea Chalupa's Twitter• Sarah Kendzior's Twitter• The Critical Thinking Alliance• The Conspiracy Test• Newsletter• How Minds Change• David McRaney's Twitter• YANSS Twitter
Michael McQueen reveals the keys to persuading even the most stubborn minds. — YOU'LL LEARN — 1) Why data and evidence don't change minds. 2) How to sell change to anyone. 3) A surprising way to make people more agreeable. Subscribe or visit AwesomeAtYourJob.com/ep923 for clickable versions of the links below. — ABOUT MICHAEL — Michael McQueen has spent the past two decades helping organizations and leaders win the battle for relevance. From Fortune 500 brands to government agencies and not-for-profits, Michael specializes in helping clients navigate uncertainty and stay one step ahead of change. He is a bestselling author of ten books and is a familiar face on the international conference circuit, having shared the stage with the likes of Bill Gates, Dr. John C. Maxwell, and Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak. Michael has spoken to hundreds of thousands of people across five continents since 2004 and is known for his high-impact, research-rich, and entertaining conference presentations. Having formerly been named Australia's Keynote Speaker of the Year, Michael has been inducted into the Professional Speakers Hall of Fame. • Book: Mindstuck: Mastering the Art of Changing Minds • Book website: Mindstuck.net • Website: MichaelMcQueen.net — RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THE SHOW — • Book: On Being Certain: Believing You Are Right Even When You're Not by Robert Burton • Past episode: 124: The Science Behind Trust and High-Performance with Paul Zak • Past episode: 746: How to Foster Deep Connection and Influence with Zoe Chance • Past episode: 780: How Minds Change and How to Change Minds with David McRaney • Past episode: 862: How to Create and Choose Better Solutions with Sheena Iyengar — THANK YOU SPONSORS! — • Storyworth. Give a personal gift from the heart this holiday season at StoryWorth.com/awesome See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
We find ourselves in an era where many minds seem to be closed. Why do we believe certain things, why do we keep believing, and why do we stop believing? The answers can be found in a brain-bending investigation exploring the limits of reasoning, the power of groupthink, and the effects of deep canvassing. In this episode, I discuss my notes on ideas and concepts I found interesting from How Minds Change, by David McRaney. For more go to: www.scottmlynch.com This episode is brought to you by: HelloFresh Embrace greatness through these empowering offerings: Discover your true potential with the support of a passionate Discord community. Unlock actionable insights on how to master your mindset and optimize your happiness through my weekly newsletter. Embrace the boundless power of your mind. Enroll alongside 154 motivated students in my academy and unlock your true potential. Maximize your potential and experience life-changing growth by either enrolling in my Private Coaching program or Group Coaching program. Subscribe now to access an exclusive collection of 24 ad-free bonus episodes per year, featuring Q&A-based content. Access my downloadable and printable exercises to equip yourself with the essential tools for success. Follow me on social for more inspiration: Instagram Facebook TikTok Twitter YouTube Want to be featured in a future episode? Leave a review here (even one sentence helps)! Music by: Blaize Trulson Produced by Legacy Divisions. Past guests on The Motivated Mind include Chris Voss, Captain Sandy, Dr. Chris Palmer, Joey Thurman, Jason Harris, Koshin Paley Ellison, Rudy Mawer, Molly Fletcher, Kristen Butler, Hasard Lee, Natasha Graziano, David Hauser and Alan Stein, Jr.
The Brainy Business | Understanding the Psychology of Why People Buy | Behavioral Economics
In this episode of The Brainy Business podcast, you'll dive into a fascinating discussion with host Melina Palmer about books that have the power to change the way you think. As an avid reader herself, Melina shares her personal experiences with impactful books and how they have shaped her understanding of the mind. She presents a diverse list of nine books that have had a profound impact on her thinking, covering topics such as combinatorial thinking, binary thinking, innovation inspired by nature, the influence of metaphors, and more. With each book recommendation, Melina provides key insights and takeaways, highlighting the importance of these books in improving our understanding of behavioral science, decision-making, and communication. Whether you're a book lover or someone looking to expand your thinking, this episode is packed with valuable recommendations that will inspire and transform your mindset. So grab your favorite reading spot, get ready to discover new perspectives, and let these books change the way you think. In this episode, you will: Enhance your thinking and broaden your perspective by exploring impactful books that have the power to change the way you think. Unlock the power of combinatorial thinking and discover how asking great questions can lead to innovative ideas and fresh insights. Expand your options and make better decisions by challenging binary thinking and embracing a both/and mindset that embraces paradoxes. Draw inspiration from nature's ingenious problem-solving solutions and apply them to your own challenges for simple and effective problem-solving and innovation. Understand the influential role of metaphors in communication and decision-making, and learn how to harness their power to effectively convey ideas and align them with business objectives. Show Notes: 00:00:00 - Introduction, Melina introduces the episode and shares her love for reading books. She discusses how books have influenced her thinking and announces that she will be sharing a list of books that have changed the way she thinks. 00:02:04 - The Power of Questions - A More Beautiful Question, Melina discusses the book A More Beautiful Question by Warren Berger. She explains how the concept of combinatorial thinking and asking great questions can lead to innovation and a better understanding of how the mind works. 00:06:37 - Embracing Both And Thinking, Melina introduces the book Both and Thinking by Wendy Smith and Marianne Lewis. She discusses how the book explores the idea of embracing paradoxes and avoiding binary thinking. This can lead to better decision-making and a broader perspective. 00:09:58 - Solving Problems with Nature - Evolutionary Ideas, Melina talks about the book Evolutionary Ideas by Sam Tatum. She explains how the book demonstrates how nature can inspire creative and practical solutions to human problems. She shares examples from the book, including the bullet train inspired by a kingfisher. 00:15:23 - Introduction to Semiotics in Retail and Marketing, Rachel Laws has written two books on semiotics: Using Semiotics in Retail and Using Semiotics in Marketing. These books provide real-world examples of how semiotics can be used to understand and leverage symbols and metaphors in business. The example of the Jam of Death Fruit spread company shows how the wrong symbols can make a store unappealing to customers. 00:18:02 - How Minds Change by David McRaney, How Minds Change by David McRaney is a mind-blowing book that explores how people's minds can change in drastic ways. McRaney shares insights from experts and his own experiences to understand why some people change their minds while others remain stuck. The book offers fundamental insights into how the brain is wired and how we can change our own minds and influence others. 00:20:50 - The Similarities Between How Minds Change and Look, Although How Minds Change and Look are 100% different books, they are inherently similar at their core. Both books offer fascinating insights into how our brains make sense of the world and how we can observe and reflect on our surroundings. Look provides examples for nonprofit fundraising and how observation can lead to solutions. 00:23:35 - The Power of US by Dominic Packer and Jay Van Beavel, The Power of US explores how individuals shift through various identities throughout the day and how this impacts their actions and interactions. 00:30:31 - Finding Happiness in Small Moments, Melina discusses the importance of finding time for oneself and engaging in activities that bring happiness. She highlights the book Happier Hour by Cassie Holmes, which provides tasks and insights to help create a happier life. 00:31:19 - Recap of Books on Changing Thinking, A recap of the books mentioned in the episode, including A More Beautiful Question by Warren Berger, How to Think by Wendy Smith and Marianne Lewis, and Metaphors We Live By by George Lakoff and Mark Johnson. Melina emphasizes the value of these books in changing one's thinking. 00:32:39 - Conclusion, Melina's top insights from the conversation. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn. Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show. I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation. Let's connect: Melina@TheBrainyBusiness.com The Brainy Business® on Facebook The Brainy Business on Twitter The Brainy Business on Instagram The Brainy Business on LinkedIn Melina on LinkedIn The Brainy Business on Youtube Learn and Support The Brainy Business: Check out and get your copies of Melina's Books. Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode: Metaphors We Live By, by George Lakoff and Mark Johnson Evolutionary Ideas, by Sam Tatam Both/And Thinking, by Wendy Smith and Marianne Lewis How Minds Change, by David McRaney Look, by Christian Madsbjerg Top Recommended Next Episode: Melina's go to brainy books (ep 342) Already Heard That One? Try These: A More Beautiful Question, with Warren Berger (ep 340) Evolutionary Ideas, with Sam Tatam (ep 204) Both/And Thinking, with Wendy Smith (ep 261) What is cognitive semiotics? With Sarah Thompson (ep 259) Using Semiotics in Marketing and Retail, with Rachel Lawes (ep 191) How Minds Change, with David McRaney (ep 336) Look, with Christian Madsbjerg (ep 325) The Power of Us, with Dominic Packer (ep 304) Selfless, with Brian Lowery (ep 331) Happier Hour, with Cassie Holmes (ep 257) Time discounting (ep 328) The Power of Metaphor, with Olson Zaltman (ep 181) Other Important Links: Brainy Bites - Melina's LinkedIn Newsletter All The Books – 2022 Edition The Best Books To Have More Influence At Work (via Shepherd) 12 Behavioral Science Books Every Consumer Insights Professional Must Read (via Greenbook)
Outrage 26 – The Science of Changing MindsDavid McRaney discusses the concept of changing minds and the challenges of political polarization.He emphasizes the importance of understanding why we want to change someone else's mind and explores the motivations behind our own beliefs. McRaney explains that changing minds requires more than just presenting facts and information. It involves engaging in meaningful conversations, exploring different perspectives, and understanding the underlying motivations and biases that shape our beliefs. He also discusses the cascade effect and how it can be used to scale up the process of changing minds.Key Takeaways:Changing minds requires understanding our own motivations and biases.Presenting facts and information alone is not enough to change someone's mind.Engaging in meaningful conversations and exploring different perspectives is essential for changing minds.The cascade effect can be used to scale up the process of changing minds.About The Guest:David McRaney is a science journalist, author, podcaster, and lecturer. He is the host of the podcast "You Are Not So Smart" and the author of the book "How Minds Change." McRaney is known for his work in psychology, neuroscience, and social sciences.Support the showShow Notes:https://outrageoverload.net/ Follow me, David Beckemeyer, on Twitter @mrblog. Follow the show on Twitter @OutrageOverload or Instagram @OutrageOverload. We are also on Facebook /OutrageOverload.HOTLINE: 925-552-7885Got a Question, comment or just thoughts you'd like to share? Call the OO hotline and leave a message and you could be featured in an upcoming episodeIf you would like to help the show, you can contribute here. Tell everyone you know about the show. That's the best way to support it.Rate and Review the show on Podchaser: https://www.podchaser.com/OutrageOverloadMany thanks to my co-editor and co-director, Austin Chen.
In this episode Jesse Richardson tells us all about ConspiracyTest.org, a new project designed to be a weird, fun, and cleverly educational way to explore just how skeptical you are (and could be) about a variety of conspiracy theories. The whole thing is designed to be very sharable and very viral, and it's launching right before Thanksgiving 2023 so that you can share it with your conspiracy-theory-entertaining friends and family over the holidays, in person or over social media (but you should definitely try it out on yourself first).• Newsletter• School of Thought• The Conspiracy Test• Metaconspiracy• How Minds Change• David McRaney's Twitter• YANSS Twitter• Jesse Richardson's Website• Jesse Richardson's Twitter• Your Bias Is• Your Fallacy Is• Free Learning List• The Rules of Civil Conversation• Show Notes
The Brainy Business | Understanding the Psychology of Why People Buy | Behavioral Economics
In this episode of The Brainy Business podcast, you'll hear a fascinating conversation between host Melina Palmer and guest David McRaney. They delve into the power of perception and how our minds construct reality. David shares his journey of discovering the topic of perception while researching for his book. The discussion explores how our prior experiences and brain processes influence our perception, and how our perception can vary greatly based on individual differences. By understanding the power of perception, you'll gain valuable insights that can enhance your content creation and improve your understanding of how we construct our reality. So, join Melina and David on this thought-provoking episode to expand your knowledge and gain a new perspective on perception. In this episode: Discover the science behind psychology and behavior change. Explore the power of perception and how our minds construct reality, revealing the impact it has on our thoughts, feelings, and actions. Understand the intricacies of belief change and gain practical strategies for effectively changing minds and transforming perspectives. Bonus: Learn expert tips for conducting interviews and securing interesting guests to keep your podcast episodes compelling and informative. Show Notes: 00:00:00 - Introduction, Melina Palmer introduces this episode, featuring a conversation with David McRaney about his book "How Minds Change." She explains that the book explores the psychology of changing minds and discusses why she chose to feature this episode. 00:02:32 - David McRaney's Background, David shares his background, from owning businesses to working in journalism and local television. He talks about starting his blog, You Are Not So Smart, which led to a book deal and a successful podcast. He mentions his interest in biases, fallacies, and critical thinking. 00:05:00 - Overview of How Minds Change, David introduces his book, How Minds Change, which explores the psychology of changing opinions, persuasion, and social change. He discusses his fascination with understanding conspiratorial thinking, resistance to change, and misinformation. 00:07:59 - Advice for Discerning Pursuits, David advises against jumping into trends and suggests pursuing topics that spark a deep curiosity and obsession. He recommends exploring areas that you want to share with others and that drive you to learn more. 00:10:53 - Importance of Following an Obsession, David emphasizes the importance of following an obsession and delving deep into a topic of interest. He shares his personal experience with his blog, You Are Not So Smart, and how his curiosity led to the success of his book and podcast. 00:14:02 - The Importance of Enthusiasm and Passion in Podcasts, David discusses how he can quickly tell if a podcast is just following an algorithm, and emphasizes the importance of infectious enthusiasm and passion in keeping listeners engaged. 00:14:30 - The Need for Genuine Interest in Writing a Book, David's agent stresses the importance of genuine passion and commitment when pitching book ideas, and he agrees that he prefers to embark on a book project without all the answers, allowing the authoritative voice to emerge naturally. 00:15:17 - McRaney's Approach to Writing a Book, As a journalist, David believes that his books are better when his authoritative voice develops throughout the project, taking readers on a journey of discovery and learning alongside him. 00:18:04 - Behavioral Baking and Connecting with the Audience, David shares his experience with introducing a cookie segment on his podcast, where he would bake cookies and share them with his audience. While some loved it, others were not as enthusiastic, leading David to retire the segment after 100 episodes. Melina discusses his concept of "Behavioral Baking" and how it ties into her podcast. 00:28:08 - The Power of Networking, David shares his experience of reaching out to experts at NYU and how it led to valuable connections and collaborations for his podcast and book projects. 00:29:33 - The Fascination with the Dress, David discusses the viral phenomenon of "the dress," an image that appeared on the internet and sparked intense debate over its colors. He explains how this event became a touchstone for understanding disagreements and perception. 00:31:35 - The Importance of Curiosity, David emphasizes the importance of curiosity and asking questions when networking and conducting interviews. He shares advice from a seasoned journalist on always coming back with multiple story ideas to avoid writer's block. 00:32:45 - The Dress Phenomenon Explained, McRaney delves into the psychology and neuroscience behind the dress illusion. He explains how the brain processes overexposed images and how this can lead to different color perceptions. He references the strawberries illusion as another example. 00:43:09 - Going Beyond Right and Wrong, Engaging in arguments over who is right and who is wrong prevents deeper conversations about why people hold different interpretations. This applies to various disagreements and limits our understanding of ourselves and others. 00:45:25 - The Croc Experiment, The croc experiment demonstrated the surf pad concept by showing that people's prior experiences influenced how they perceived the color of crocs and socks under different lighting conditions. This bizarre experiment highlights the complexity of perception and how it varies among individuals. 00:49:36 - Minds Changing on Same-Sex Marriage, The shift in attitudes towards same-sex marriage challenged the notion that people can't change their minds. Understanding what happens in a person's brain when they no longer agree with their past beliefs became the focus of investigation. 00:51:28 - How to Change Minds, Changing minds requires moving away from a confrontational approach and towards compassionate listening. Brute-forcing facts on others doesn't work; instead, engaging in non-judgmental conversations that allow for understanding can lead to effective persuasion. 00:55:43 - Conclusion, Melina's top insights from the conversation. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn. Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show. I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation. Let's connect: Melina@TheBrainyBusiness.com The Brainy Business® on Facebook The Brainy Business on Twitter The Brainy Business on Instagram The Brainy Business on LinkedIn Melina on LinkedIn The Brainy Business on Youtube Connect with David: DAVID'S WEBSITE DAVID ON TWITTER DAVID ON LINKEDIN Learn and Support The Brainy Business: Check out and get your copies of Melina's Books. Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode: How Minds Change, by David McRaney You Are Not So Smart, by David McRaney You Are Now Less Dumb, by David McRaney What Your Employees Need and Can't Tell You, by Melina Palmer Look, by Christian Madsbjerg Top Recommended Next Episode: Confirmation Bias (ep 260) Already Heard That One? Try These: Robert Cialdini and the (Now!) 7 Principles of Persuasion (ep 312) Influence Is Your Superpower with Yale's Dr. Zoe Chance (ep 189) A More Beautiful Question with Warren Berger (episode 200) Indistractible, with Nir Eyal (ep 290) Survivorship Bias (ep 110) Focusing Illusion (ep 330) Priming (ep 252) What is Behavioral Baking? (episode 155) Partitioning (ep 252) You Have More Influence Than You Think with Vanessa Bohns (ep 318) The Power of Us with Dr. Dominic Packer (ep 304) Reciprocity (ep 238) Sense Of Smell (ep 298) Sense of Sight (ep 24) Look, with Christian Madsbjerg (ep 325) A More Just Future, with Dolly Chugh (ep 247) Negativity Bias (ep 223) The Dunning Kruger Effect (ep 266) Both/And Thinking, with Wendy Smith (ep 261) Other Important Links: Brainy Bites - Melina's LinkedIn Newsletter You Are Not So Smart Website The Dress Strawberry Illusion
With the increasingly polarized rhetoric surrounding the terrorist attacks in Israel on October 7, and the IDF's continuous bombing of the Gaza strip, we felt it was an opportune time to revisit this episode that outlines a better way to discuss uncomfortable subjects with people you may disagree with. We hope you enjoy this episode, and find it helpful in navigating difficult conversations in your own lives. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------ORIGINAL SHOW NOTES: And how to listen to people you disagree with, so they'll listen to you.It feels like we're more stubborn than ever before. More likely to dig in our heels, refuse to listen to facts and in general hold tight to our positions no matter what. But is that true, or is that just a function of the new ways of communication that we're still learning to use?Regardless, if we can't figure out how to find solutions together, we may not have the time to figure it out. So the next time you're inclined to blow up at someone for believing in something dumb, or refusing to listen to reason, ask yourself if there's a better way to convince them.GUEST: David McRaney, author of How Minds Change
In this episode I'm revisiting the topic of being an effective advocate of evidence-based and Rational Policy. To do this properly one must understand the science of how to influence people. I've found in the past that countering anti-science opinion with ridicule, although very cathartic, is not helpful. I've learned that just spouting reams of evidence is not helpful for those who have already made up their minds. Although this might be sufficient for neutral parties it's not going to change minds in a polarized debate. My guest today is an expert on what it takes to change peoples' minds. David McRaney is a journalist and lecturer fascinated with brains, minds, and culture. He created the blog, book, and ongoing podcast You Are Not So Smart, which he calls a "celebration of self delusion." His most recent book is How Minds Change, all about the science behind how and why people do and do not change their minds and the intricacies and nuances of persuasion. After finishing How Minds Change, he wrote, produced, and recorded a six-hour audio documentary exploring the history of the idea and the word – genius – which is the subject of his next book. Support The Rational View at Patron.Podbean.com/TheRationalView Tell me your opinion on Facebook @TheRationalView Twix @AlScottRational #TheRationalView #podcast #influence #changingminds #evidence #science
The Brainy Business | Understanding the Psychology of Why People Buy | Behavioral Economics
Melina Palmer dives deep into the concept of the focusing illusion and its impact on our perceptions and decisions. Melina introduces the concept by explaining that the focusing illusion is a cognitive bias where we give disproportionate weight to one specific aspect of a situation while neglecting other factors that matter and may have a greater impact. This bias can lead us to make decisions based on a distorted view of reality. The discussion moves on to how the focusing illusion affects individuals and businesses alike. Melina shares examples such as people overestimating the impact of winning the lottery on their happiness, or forming negative perceptions of a restaurant based on a single negative review about the cleanliness of the floor. These examples highlight the importance of looking beyond surface-level factors and considering the broader context. By understanding the influence of the focusing illusion, businesses can make more informed decisions that align with reality and effectively tailor their messaging to resonate with their target audience. Whether you're an individual looking to make better personal choices or a business seeking to improve your marketing strategies, this podcast episode offers help so you navigate the pitfalls of this cognitive bias. In this episode: Explore the profound reach of the focusing illusion on your perspective and decision-making. Gain unique insights into how the focusing illusion shapes our happiness projections. Understand the danger of exaggerating the significance of certain variables on your happiness. Dive into how businesses can use the focusing illusion. Appreciate why pinpointing the focusing illusion is a necessary step in decision-making processes. Show Notes: 00:00:00 - Introduction, Melina Palmer introduces episode 330 of The Brainy Business podcast, which focuses on the concept of the focusing illusion and its impact on our perception of happiness. 00:03:08 - The Focusing Illusion, The focusing illusion is a cognitive bias that causes us to place too much weight on certain aspects of our lives or experiences, leading us to overestimate their impact on our overall happiness. 00:07:11 - Impact on Decision Making, The focusing illusion can influence our decision-making by causing us to prioritize certain factors, even if they are not truly as important as we believe them to be. This can lead to biased perceptions and actions. 00:09:27 - The Halo Effect, The halo effect is a related cognitive bias that can be influenced by the focusing illusion. It causes us to form positive or negative impressions of someone based on limited information or initial traits. 00:12:39 - Sequence Matters, The sequence in which we observe characteristics or information about a person can heavily influence our perception and interpretation. The halo effect and the focusing illusion can both be influenced by the order in which information is presented. 00:16:27 - The Impact of Bias on Relationships, Bias can create a self-fulfilling prophecy in relationships, leading to a vicious cycle of negative interactions. It's important to step back and consider if your bias is guiding your interactions and if there may be a different perspective to consider. 00:18:13 - The Focusing Illusion and Facing Mortality, The focusing illusion causes us to focus on the potential last interactions with loved ones when facing serious illnesses or life-changing events. But the truth is, every interaction could be the last, so it's important to let go of grudges and focus on what really matters. 00:21:09 - Applying the Focusing Illusion in Business, The focusing illusion can impact our approach to projects and business decisions. By changing our filter and considering different perspectives, we can uncover hidden problems or opportunities that may have been overlooked. 00:24:57 - Narrowing Your Message for Business Success, In business, it's important to focus on what really matters to your target market. By narrowing your message and aligning it with your customer's mind state, you can create a stronger connection and motivate them to take action. 00:27:31 - Conclusion, Melina's top insights from the conversation. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn. Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show. I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation. Let's connect: Melina@TheBrainyBusiness.com The Brainy Business® on Facebook The Brainy Business on Twitter The Brainy Business on Instagram The Brainy Business on LinkedIn Melina on LinkedIn The Brainy Business on Youtube Learn and Support The Brainy Business: Check out and get your copies of Melina's Books. Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode: Selfless, by Brian Lowery What Your Employees Need and Can't Tell You, by Melina Palmer Thinking, Fast and Slow, by Daniel Kahneman Marketing to Mindstates, by Will Leach Both/And Thinking, by Wendy Smith and Marianne Lewis Top Recommended Next Episode: Confirmation Bias (ep 260) Already Heard That One? Try These: Marketing to Mindstates, with Will Leach (ep 88) Counterfactual Thinking (ep 286) Prefactual Thinking (ep 232) Loss Aversion (ep 316) How to Organize Your Brain with Behavioral Economics (ep 83) Social Proof (ep 87) Brainy Benefits of Gratitude (ep 236) How Minds Change, with David McRaney (ep 210) Both/And Thinking, with Wendy Smith (ep 261) Avoiding Everyday Work Disasters, with Gleb Tsipursky (ep 111) Hate Being On Camera? Behavioral Economics Can Help (ep 95) Other Important Links: Brainy Bites - Melina's LinkedIn Newsletter Mountain Clarity Would You Be Happier If You Were Richer? A Focusing Illusion Does Living in California Make People Happy? A Focusing Illusion in Judgments of Life Satisfaction
Negotiate Anything: Negotiation | Persuasion | Influence | Sales | Leadership | Conflict Management
Buy the book "How Minds Change" https://www.amazon.com/How-Minds-Change-Surprising-Persuasion/dp/0593190297/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1696603728&sr=8-1 In this episode, David McRaney from You Are Not So Smart Podcast, discusses how minds change by exploring the factors that influence our beliefs. He talks about how to avoid unproductive arguments and change minds through listening. Buy the book "How Minds Change" https://www.amazon.com/How-Minds-Change-Surprising-Persuasion/dp/0593190297/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1696603728&sr=8-1 Listen to the "You Are Not So Smart" Podcast https://www.davidmcraney.com/podcast Follow David McRaney on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmcraney/ https://www.davidmcraney.com/ https://www.davidmcraney.com/ Contact ANI Request A Customized Workshop For Your Company: https://www.americannegotiationinstitute.com/services/workshops/ Follow Kwame Christian on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kwamechristian/ The Ultimate Negotiation Guide: https://www.americannegotiationinstitute.com/guides/ultimate-negotiation-guide/ Click here to buy your copy of How To Have Difficult Conversations About Race!: https://www.amazon.com/Have-Difficult-Conversations-About-Race/dp/1637741308/ref=pd_%5B%E2%80%A6%5Df0bc9774-7975-448b-bde1-094cab455adb&pd_rd_i=1637741308&psc=1 Click here to buy your copy of Finding Confidence in Conflict: How to Negotiate Anything and Live Your Best Life!: https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Confidence-Conflict-Negotiate-Anything/dp/0578413736/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2PSW69L6ABTK&keywords=finding+confidence+in+conflict&qid=1667317257&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIwLjQyIiwicXNhIjoiMC4xNCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMjMifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=finding+confidence+in+conflic%2Caps%2C69&sr=8-1
Buy the book "How Minds Change" https://www.amazon.com/How-Minds-Change-Surprising-Persuasion/dp/0593190297/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1696603728&sr=8-1 In this episode, David McRaney from You Are Not So Smart Podcast, discusses how minds change by exploring the factors that influence our beliefs. He talks about how to avoid unproductive arguments and change minds through listening. Buy the book "How Minds Change" https://www.amazon.com/How-Minds-Change-Surprising-Persuasion/dp/0593190297/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1696603728&sr=8-1 Listen to the "You Are Not So Smart" Podcast https://www.davidmcraney.com/podcast Follow David McRaney on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmcraney/ https://www.davidmcraney.com/ https://www.davidmcraney.com/ Contact ANI Request A Customized Workshop For Your Company: https://www.americannegotiationinstitute.com/services/workshops/ Follow Kwame Christian on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kwamechristian/ The Ultimate Negotiation Guide: https://www.americannegotiationinstitute.com/guides/ultimate-negotiation-guide/ Click here to buy your copy of How To Have Difficult Conversations About Race!: https://www.amazon.com/Have-Difficult-Conversations-About-Race/dp/1637741308/ref=pd_%5B%E2%80%A6%5Df0bc9774-7975-448b-bde1-094cab455adb&pd_rd_i=1637741308&psc=1 Click here to buy your copy of Finding Confidence in Conflict: How to Negotiate Anything and Live Your Best Life!: https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Confidence-Conflict-Negotiate-Anything/dp/0578413736/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2PSW69L6ABTK&keywords=finding+confidence+in+conflict&qid=1667317257&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIwLjQyIiwicXNhIjoiMC4xNCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMjMifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=finding+confidence+in+conflic%2Caps%2C69&sr=8-1
The Brainy Business | Understanding the Psychology of Why People Buy | Behavioral Economics
In this episode of The Brainy Business podcast, Melina Palmer speaks with ethnographer Dr. Felicity Heathcote-Marcz about the significance of ethnographic research in understanding customer behavior and organizational culture. Ethnography, a research methodology rooted in anthropology, has found new relevance in the business world. Felicity explains that ethnographic research involves immersing oneself in the studied context, actively interacting with people, and collecting qualitative data to gain deep insights. The episode emphasizes ethnography's value in the transport industry, highlighting various projects that have uncovered valuable insights into future mobility trends and incident management. Felicity also addresses challenges such as time constraints and the Hawthorne Effect. Business professionals looking to make informed decisions and improve organizational culture will find this episode informative and practical, offering a comprehensive introduction to ethnographic research and its applications. In this episode: Uncover the profound effects that ethnographic research has on interpreting customer behavior and shaping organizational culture. Tackle the burdens of integrating ethnographic research into a business context and explore practical solutions. Gain an understanding of the longitudinal character and direct benefits of ethnographic research. Deconstruct the Hawthorne effect and its significant role in any research project you might take on. Discover the emerging role of behavioral science and nudges in revolutionizing transportation research. Show Notes: 00:00:00 - Introduction, Melina Palmer introduces the episode and the guest, Dr. Felicity Heathcote-Marcz. She mentions that ethnography is an important method for understanding customers and lays the groundwork for the upcoming episode on observation skills with Christian Madsbjerg. 00:02:21 - What is Ethnographic Research?, Dr. Felicity Heathcote-Marcz explains that ethnographic research originated in anthropology and involves studying cultures and local contexts to gain a deep understanding of people and their behaviors. She discusses how ethnography has evolved and how it is now used in business to gain insights into customers and organizational culture. 00:08:29 - Role of an Organizational Ethnographer, Dr. Felicity Heathcote-Marcz describes her role as an organizational ethnographer at Atkins, an engineering and transport consultancy. She explains that she studies the culture within organizations, conducts research on future trends in the transport industry, and collects immersive data by observing and interacting with customers in their natural environments. 00:11:05 - Impact of Ethnography on Organizations, Felicity discusses how ethnography can provide organizations with a deeper understanding of their customers and employees. She explains that ethnographers can identify opportunities for improvement, inform decision-making, and facilitate cultural change within organizations. 00:13:26 - Ethical Considerations in Ethnographic Research, Felicity emphasizes the importance of reflexivity and self-awareness in ethnographic research. 00:16:19 - Ethnographic Methodologies in Business Contexts, Felicity discusses the challenges of utilizing ethnographic methodologies in a business context, where time constraints often limit the depth and richness of the data collected. While some purist academic ethnographers may object to condensed time periods, Felicity suggests spending as much continuous time as possible with a specific group to establish rapport and gain valuable insights. 00:18:09 - Accompanied Drives and Ethical Considerations, Felicity explains her approach to conducting accompanied drives, where she sits in the passenger seat with the driver and encourages them to share their thoughts and experiences. She emphasizes the importance of maintaining participant anonymity and establishing trust to overcome suspicion and encourage open communication. 00:21:28 - Nudges and Behavioral Science in Transportation, Felicity discusses her work with local transport authorities in the UK, focusing on designing behavioral nudges to encourage residents to shift from private cars to public transport or active modes of travel. She highlights the importance of considering contextual factors, such as weather and incentives, to effectively change behavior. 00:25:10 - The Effectiveness of Nudges in Shifting Behaviors, Felicity presents findings from a study conducted in Manchester, where text message nudges were used to encourage walking, cycling, or using public transport for commuting. The results revealed that the effectiveness of nudges varied depending on contextual factors, such as weather, and suggested that larger incentives may be needed to change behaviors in unfavorable conditions. 00:31:44 - Social Pressure and Incentives for Mask-Wearing, The discussion focuses on the social pressure that exists regarding mask-wearing in different countries and contexts. In some places, there is a need to set up schemes to incentivize mask-wearing, while in others, people automatically conform and penalize those who don't. 00:33:05 - Importance of Ethnographic Research, Ethnographic research is highlighted as a valuable approach to understanding differing opinions and behaviors. By taking interlocutors seriously and stepping into their worlds, researchers can gain insights into their motivations and beliefs. This approach requires being present and observing without bias or preconceived notions. 00:34:13 - Understanding Beliefs and Motivations, Ethnographic research delves beyond surface-level behaviors and artifacts to uncover the deep-seated beliefs, cultural influences, and personal experiences that shape people's actions. By exploring these underlying factors, researchers can gain a comprehensive understanding of individuals and their perspectives. 00:36:22 - Immersion and Risk in Ethnographic Research, To truly understand certain contexts and realities, ethnographers may need to immerse themselves in potentially risky situations. This could involve not wearing a mask in a non-mask space or accompanying individuals into dangerous environments. Immersion allows for a more accurate and complete depiction of people's experiences and challenges. 00:38:16 - Conclusion Melina's top insights from the conversation. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn. Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show. I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation. Let's connect: Melina@TheBrainyBusiness.com The Brainy Business® on Facebook The Brainy Business on Twitter The Brainy Business on Instagram The Brainy Business on LinkedIn Melina on LinkedIn The Brainy Business on Youtube Learn and Support The Brainy Business: Check out and get your copies of Melina's Books. Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode: Engaged, by Amy Bucher Behavioral Science in the Wild, by Dilip Soman and Nina Mazar What Your Customer Wants and Can't Tell You, by Melina Palmer Designing for Behavior Change, by Stephen Wendel Mixed Signals, by Uri Gneezy Connect with Felicity: Felicity on LinkedIn Felicity on Twitter Top Recommended Next Episode: Hawthorne Effect (ep 117) Already Heard That One? Try These: Questions or Answers? (ep 4) NUDGES & Choice Architecture (ep 35) How to Finally Change Your Behavior (So it Sticks) (ep 81) How To Set Up Your Own Experiments (ep 63) Colu (ep 113) The Littery (ep 75) Incentives - The “N” in Nudges (ep 272) Finding Confidence in Conflict, with Kwame Christian (ep 107) Mixed Signals with Uri Gneezy (273) Introducing the Behavioral Science Club, with Louise Ward (ep 118) Focusing Illusion (ep 89) Anthropology, Market Research and BE, with Priscilla McKinney (ep 196) Using Semiotics in Retail, with Rachel Lawes (ep 191) Influence Is Your Superpower, with Zoe Chance (ep 308) You Have More Influence Than You Think, with Vanessa Bohns (ep 197) How Minds Change, with David McRaney (ep 210) Vulnerability Loops (ep 229) Other Important Links: Brainy Bites - Melina's LinkedIn Newsletter
In celebration of How Minds Change, my new book, turning one-year-old, in this episode Michael Taft interviews David McRaney about how minds do and do not change, the process behind writing a book about it, and what he has learned since writing it and promoting it.Michael is a meditation teacher, bestselling author, and a mindfulness coach – and he specializes in secular, science-based mindfulness training. If you are interested in a science-based, secular book about meditation and and mindfulness, I highly recommend his book,The Mindful Geek, snd I recommend guided meditation with him. He offers that at The Alembic in Berkely. You can join them virtually, over the internet. Links below.I also recommend his podcast, Deconstructing Yourself. It is all about entheogens and neurofeedback and brain hacking. If you are a Carl Sagan loving, science endorsing, evidence based sort of person – a nerd, geek, or skeptic or humanist who wants to know more about meditation and deep dive into what we do and do not know about it – that's what his podcast is about. Sam Harris will be a guest on there soon, and I think many of you will love that episode.Deconstructing YourselfThe AlembicMichael TaftHow Minds ChangeDavid McRaney's TwitterYANSS TwitterShow NotesNewsletterPatreon
The Brainy Business | Understanding the Psychology of Why People Buy | Behavioral Economics
This episode of The Brainy Business podcast features an insightful interview with Stephen M. R. Covey, author of The Speed of Trust. Covey shares his expertise on building trust through transparency and authenticity, drawing from his personal experience within Franklin Covey. He explains how trust serves as the foundation for effective relationships and collaboration within teams. Covey dives into the quantifiable value of trust, showcasing its impact on speed and cost. He shares two compelling examples to illustrate the economic benefits of trust, including the power of referrals and Warren Buffett's surprisingly successful acquisition deal. Throughout the conversation, Covey emphasizes the need for discernment in extending trust and the importance of creating a high trust culture. The episode provides practical insights and actionable strategies for leaders and managers to nurture trust within their organizations. By listening to this episode, business leaders can gain a deeper understanding of the economic and psychological benefits of trust and learn strategies to foster trust within their teams for increased productivity and success. In this episode: Realize the significant role trust plays in enhancing teamwork, productivity, and collaboration. Uncover the transformative power of transparency and authenticity within organizations, through the personal experiences of Stephen M. R. Covey. Appreciate the crucial interplay between trust and successful change management during periods of organizational transitions. Discover the foundational role of trust in boosting both speed and cost efficiency in business operations and its impact on economic outcomes. Identify the balance and discernment imperative in extending trust, a concept encapsulated as 'Smart Trust.' Show Notes: 00:00:00 - Introduction, Melina introduces the episode and welcomes Stephen M.R. Covey, the son of Stephen R. Covey, author of The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People. They discuss Stephen's family legacy and how he has built upon his father's work with a focus on trust. 00:02:18 - The Importance of Trust, Stephen explains the concept of trust and how it impacts relationships and organizations. He shares a personal story about the Franklin Covey merger and the importance of transparency and authenticity in building trust. 00:06:11 - Trust and the Covey Legacy, Stephen discusses how his family legacy and the reputation of his father have influenced the level of trust people have in him. He emphasizes the importance of backing up trust with skills and research. 00:08:37 - The Gift of Transparency, Stephen shares a story about a meeting he had with the Franklin Covey employees after the merger. By being open, transparent, and addressing their concerns, he was able to build trust and create a stronger team. 00:13:13 - Calming the Elephant, Melina relates Stephen's story to the concept of “calming the elephant,” referring to addressing the underlying concerns and fears that people have during times of change. She shares an example of how taking the time to listen to an employee's personal stress helped improve their productivity. 00:14:44 - The Economics of Trust, Stephen discusses the economic impact of trust in organizations, and explains how his formulas for the economics of trust work. 00:15:20 - The Power of Understanding, Understanding others increases influence and builds trust, leading to better teamwork and improved outcomes. 00:17:15 - The Economics of Trust, Trust affects speed and cost in any relationship or environment. When trust decreases, speed decreases and cost increases. Conversely, when trust increases, speed increases and cost decreases. 00:20:33 - Examples of Trust in Action, Trust is a vital factor in word-of-mouth referrals, where trust leads to faster and less costly acquisitions. Stephen shares an example from Warren Buffett's handshake deal, which was completed quickly and without the traditional due diligence process due to high trust. 00:25:44 - The Cost of Distrust, Distrust leads to longer processes and higher costs, as seen in increased airport security measures and compliance rules after corporate scandals. The cost of distrust is real, while the dividends of high trust can be monetized. 00:28:22 - Balancing Trust and Caution, It is possible to be both too trusting and too suspicious. Finding the balance of smart trust involves being aware of potential risks while also recognizing the costs of not trusting enough and stifling creativity and innovation. 00:31:05 - The Importance of Smart Trust, Stephen Covey discusses the concept of smart trust, which involves assessing the likelihood, cost, and consequences of extending trust to someone. He emphasizes the importance of credibility and judgment in determining how much trust to give and acknowledges that blindly trusting someone who has proven to be untrustworthy is not wise. 00:32:33 - Building Trust and Overcoming Fear, Covey explains that extending trust can lead to great outcomes and results, as most people respond well to being trusted. He encourages leaders to focus on the 95% of trustworthy individuals and not let the 5% of untrustworthy people define their approach. Covey suggests using judgment and assessing the risk before trusting someone, but also highlights the importance of not being overly cautious and missing out on possibilities. 00:36:04 - The Power of High Trust Cultures, Covey discusses how high trust cultures can be more effective and accountable than rules-based cultures. He explains that when trust is present, people hold each other accountable and the culture itself becomes a reinforcer of trust. Covey emphasizes the need for organizations to design for the majority of trustworthy individuals rather than focusing on the few untrustworthy individuals. 00:37:29 - One More Behavior: Practicing Accountability, Covey introduces the behavior of practicing accountability, which involves creating agreements and expectations with individuals and allowing them to take responsibility for evaluating their own performance. He believes that involving people in the accountability process can build trust and lead to greater commitment and engagement. 00:46:15 - The Power of Trust, Trust is the most inspiring form of human motivation and brings out the best in people. 00:46:30 - Conclusion Melina's top insights from the conversation. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn. Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show. I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation. Let's connect: Melina@TheBrainyBusiness.com The Brainy Business® on Facebook The Brainy Business on Twitter The Brainy Business on Instagram The Brainy Business on LinkedIn Melina on LinkedIn The Brainy Business on Youtube Learn and Support The Brainy Business: Check out and get your copies of Melina's Books. Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode: The Speed of Trust, by Stephen M.R. Covey Friction, by Roger Dooley What Your Employees Need and Can't Tell You, by Melina Palmer 7 Habits of Highly Effective People, by Stephen R. Covey Indistractable, by Nir Eyal Connect with Stephen: Speed of Trust Website Stephen on Twitter Stephen on LinkedIn Top Recommended Next Episode: Vulnerability Loops (ep 229) Already Heard That One? 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In this episode of The Brainy Business podcast, Melina Palmer interviews Andrea Learned, a climate communications strategist and host of the Living Change Podcast, on the topic of building a leadership platform and personal brand for influence. Melina and Andrea discuss the importance of being authentic and engaging on social media to attract media attention and build trust with others. They emphasize the value of showcasing expertise and being seen doing the things you promote, as it builds credibility and inspires others to take similar actions. The conversation also highlights the power of aligning personal brand with initiatives and causes that align with one's values. Overall, the episode emphasizes the need for leaders to be visible and engaged on social media platforms to have influence and make an impact. In this episode: Unearth how to harness your influence (around climate or anything else) as a tool for personal and professional progression. Construct a powerful leadership platform that amplifies your influence. Explore the narrative magic of storytelling that can pivot climate and consumption behavior. Discover your genuine voice to effectively spur behavior modification. Amplify your climate advocacy through savvy social media engagement. Show Notes: 00:00:00 - Introduction, Melina introduces Andrea Learned, host of the Living Change podcast, and shares how they connected through a post Melina shared on LinkedIn asking for suggestions from fans for potential podcast episode topics. They discuss the importance of influence and how it can be applied to climate change and other causes. 00:03:47 - Building Climate Influence, Andrea shares her expertise in climate influence and how she helps leaders in the clean energy, food systems, transportation, and policy sectors leverage their platforms to drive scalable climate action. She emphasizes the importance of being visible and accessible on social media to gain influence and attract media coverage. 00:08:55 - Leveraging Leader's Influence, Andrea discusses the power of leaders in driving climate influence and how their engagement on platforms like LinkedIn can differentiate them from competitors and amplify their brand's messaging. She emphasizes the need for brands to support and empower their leaders to build their influence. 00:11:49 - Nudging Behavior Change, Melina and Andrea explore the role of influence in behavior change and pitching ideas. They discuss the importance of making it easy for others to follow your influence and how leaders who are visible and engaged can create a path for media and other stakeholders to follow. 00:13:29 - Media Pitching and Visibility, Melina and Andrea highlight the benefits of having a visible leader in media pitching efforts. They discuss how a leader's visibility and engagement on social media can make it easier for the media to identify the right person to pitch and provide a blueprint for their expertise and messaging. 00:15:19 - Importance of Building a Leadership Platform, Building a leadership platform for your sector allows you to have a warmer and more interesting conversation with the media. It also gives you social capital that you can carry with you wherever you go, even beyond your current organization. 00:17:24 - Importance of Media Training and Polished Communication, Media training and being able to communicate in good sound bites are valuable for building influence. It is important to align your personal brand with your organization's initiatives and show that you can be a polished spokesperson. 00:18:35 - Being Seen Doing the Things You Advocate For, It is important to be seen doing the things you are advocating for. Andrea shares real-world examples of leaders and influencers riding bikes, going plant-based, or taking other actions that align with their message. These actions influence others and encourage them to follow suit. 00:24:54 - The Power of Vulnerability and Building Trust, Being willing to be visibly vulnerable helps build trust with others. Taking the first step and showing you are on a journey, even if you are not perfect, encourages others to be braver and join in the cause. 00:26:47 - Examples of Influential Leaders, Examples of influential leaders include Malala who advocated for girls' education and Jane Goodall who used her work with chimpanzees to raise awareness about climate change and poverty. These leaders align their personal brand with their cause and use their influence to make a difference. 00:30:51 - The Impact of Consumer Recommendations on the Planet, Andrea discusses the importance of being aware of the impact our consumer recommendations have on the planet. She emphasizes that if we claim to care about the environment, we should consider the items we recommend or use, as they can influence others to emulate our behavior. 00:31:52 - The Power of Conversion Storytelling, Melina and Andrea explain that conversion stories, where someone makes a significant change in their behavior, can be incredibly powerful in influencing others. Stories of personal transformation, such as transitioning from meat-eating to a plant-based diet or switching from driving a big truck to riding a bike, can have a strong impact on inspiring change. 00:33:34 - Seeing Yourself in the Story, Melina highlights the importance of seeing oneself in a story to overcome resistance to change. By sharing relatable stories of individuals who have made similar changes, it becomes easier for others to envision themselves making similar shifts in their behavior. This can lead to increased motivation and action. 00:34:49 - Making Change Accessible, Consider making change accessible by setting short-term challenges or goals. For example, committing to meatless Mondays for a month or riding a bike for short trips three days a week. By breaking change into manageable steps, it becomes less overwhelming and more likely to be adopted. 00:39:43 - Influencing Others through Personal Expression, Andrea discusses the power of personal expression in influencing others. Sharing stories of personal journeys, like Mark Marin's, for example. 00:44:41 - Leveraging LinkedIn for Influence, Melina discusses the strategy of posing things as questions on LinkedIn to invite engagement and leverage social proof. Asking questions and opening up conversations is a powerful way to pull in more people and increase influence. 00:45:11 - Walking as a Form of Leisure and Errands, Melina shares her recent experience of going on a three-hour walk to the farmers market and running errands along the way. Walking is a preferred activity for her and her husband, and they enjoy the combination of leisure and productivity. 00:46:21 - Tips for Subtle Influence, Be brave enough to contribute and add value, even if it's not broadcasted. Engaging in social media comments and gradually becoming comfortable with sharing ideas and opinions can lead to a bigger platform and influence in the long run. 00:47:26 - Conclusion, Melina's top insights from the conversation. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn. Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show. I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation. Let's connect: Melina@TheBrainyBusiness.com The Brainy Business® on Facebook The Brainy Business on Twitter The Brainy Business on Instagram The Brainy Business on LinkedIn Melina on LinkedIn The Brainy Business on Youtube Learn and Support The Brainy Business: Check out and get your copies of Melina's Books. Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode: Neurobranding, by Peter Steidl Friction, by Roger Dooley Nudge, by Richard Thaler and Cass Sunstein Influence is Your Superpower, by Zoe Chance The Power of Saying No, by Vanessa Patrick Connect with Andrea: Follow Andrea on LinkedIn Andrea on Twitter Living Change podcast website Top Recommended Next Episode: Influence Is Your Superpower, with Zoe Chance (ep 308) Already Heard That One? 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This week, I talk to producer, creative executive, entrepreneur and meditation teacher Tim Duffy, who shares some amazing tools and tips to overcome the anxiety, stress, anger, frustration, worry, and disappointment that comes in the crazy world we live in today. I also dig into the latest efforts to unionize reality TV, which is very complicated, and how streaming costs are going to keep rising and rising. Plus, I address the struggles we are facing in unscripted TV amidst the rising costs of streaming and the slow decline in broadcast viewing. For information on Tim's meditation practices or to reach him, check out his website: https://www.timduffymeditation.com And check out the amazing food biz he and his brother created as well. https://yumcrunch.com Find me on social media here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-berkowitz-5a09ab8/ https://berkreport.com https://twitter.com/steveberkowitz https://www.instagram.com/stevemberkowitz/ And if you're looking for a transcript of the episode, here it is: 00:00:00:09 - 00:00:22:21 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ Welcome to another episode of the No Script No Problem Podcast on Bleav, the number one podcast network for professionals. Do you believe? Now, if you enjoy this show, please remember to subscribe and rate it with five stars. It's available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Amazon music, and anywhere else you listen to podcasts. You also find it on Bleav.com and @bleavpodcasts. 00:00:23:01 - 00:00:48:12 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ Follow me on social media, Twitter and Post News. It's @SteveBerkowitz and on Instagram and Threads @stevemberkowitz and also on Mastodon, Spill, Facebook, Snapchat and LinkedIn. If you're interested in advertising on the show, please contact believe at Leave dot com. All right, let's get started. I've got a terrific guest coming up who is going to calm your nerves and give you some great advice to weather the storm during these stressful times. 00:00:48:12 - 00:01:22:02 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ But before I chat with him, it's time for a little reality check. For the first time ever, linear TV viewership made up less than half of all TV usage in a measurement month. That is according to Nielsen's. The Gauge report for July broadcast TV accounted for only 20% of viewing and cable TV 29.6%. It was a record lows and down 5.4% and 12.5% respectively, versus the same period last year. 00:01:22:05 - 00:02:00:17 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ YouTube and Netflix lead the way in terms of your streamers. Streaming viewing rose 2.9% from June to July 2023 and was up 25.3% over the past year, accounting for 38.7% of total TV usage. That's huge. Now, the thing that's kind of interesting is that one of the shows that has kind of really given Netflix this bump, you know, a 4.2% increase in TV share over the course of June is Suits, which was a cable shows on USA Network right from 2011 to 2019. 00:02:00:17 - 00:02:21:03 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ So it's pretty wild that this show, which picked up 4000000000 minutes of viewing in one week, was on USA and virtually no one was talking about it during its nine season. I mean, a nine season run is incredible, but it wasn't like it was, you know, winning Emmy after Emmy. It wasn't a succession, you know, it wasn't a Breaking Bad. 00:02:21:05 - 00:02:52:08 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ And now it's like you look at comments people are making online and it's like suits. You'd think it's, you know, the greatest show ever. So it shows to me that it's not that people don't like broadcast programing, it's not that people don't like cable programing. They just prefer watching things on Netflix. They prefer watching things on YouTube. Now, the big irony here is that the average cost of subscribing ad free to a major streamer has jumped almost 25% in the last year. 00:02:52:08 - 00:03:20:04 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ That's according to the Wall Street Journal. All right. So after years of cheap monthly fees, right, that we all loved when we first got Netflix or we first got Apple TV Plus right where we first got that wonderful bundle of Hulu and Espn+. Right. And Disney Plus, that's all gone. Everybody wants to make money. Now. All the streamers need to make money, but they are now testing our loyalty, testing customer loyalty. 00:03:20:04 - 00:03:50:14 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ And they are all raising their prices. An average assortment of the top U.S. streaming services will be worth $87 a month come this fall, while an average cable package will be $83. All right. So just like we just talked about how streaming has surpassed broadcast and cable in viewers right now, the whole point of streaming, we didn't want to pay as much as cable. 00:03:50:14 - 00:04:16:05 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ Now it's all shifting back and we're suddenly paying more money for streaming than we are for cable. Disney is raising its prices for Disney Plus and Hulu, and that follows on the heels of Peacock NetFlow, X, Max, Paramount Plus and Apple TV Plus All have raised their prices recently. It's going to keep happening. They're going to keep doing this until Wall Street is happy. 00:04:16:05 - 00:04:48:08 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ The business model hasn't worked unless you're Netflix. This is also why you're seeing a huge increase in free ad supported television. Fast channels. Right to Be is a perfect example to be doing well. Moving on to the wild world of reality television, former Real Housewives of New York star Bethenny Frankel, she's causing quite a stir, talking to dozens of reality TV talent, trying to get them to unionize and get involved in potential litigation as well. 00:04:48:10 - 00:05:22:20 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ She is encouraging reality TV stars to boycott along with SAG, is asking for residuals on her shows. You know, she thinks reality TV stars should get residuals, just like actors and actresses. We have talked about reality TV. You unions for as long as I can remember. But what she's doing is going a step further. Bethenny is throwing accusations around at Bravo about a so-called cover up, you know, during an incident that happened on set. 00:05:22:20 - 00:05:46:05 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ And she's hired two very high powered lawyers. They're accusing NBCUniversal, the parent company of Bravo, of exploitation and abuse. Among other things, they've asked NBC's lawyers to preserve discovery as part of their investigation session. It's getting kind of ugly. I can't speak to anything that has to do with the litigation or any of these things that they're accusing NBC or Bravo or the producers of doing. 00:05:46:05 - 00:06:13:01 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ But I can say that unionization when it comes to reality TV is complicated. That is a very nuanced topic that I've talked to dozens of producers and friends about. And I think Bethenny has some valid points when she talks about working hours and base pay rates. Those are valid points. But there are so many layers that come into play when you're talking about reality TV. 00:06:13:06 - 00:06:37:24 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ You know, she makes a point about, you know, I think she said, you know, she only made seven grand for her first season on The Housewives. Well, Raquel, you know, as it turns out from Vanderpump Rules, made $361,000 this past season. You know, Vanderpump Rules huge hit, their biggest season ever, nominated for an Emmy. But that's a ton of money, I think, when you're talking about reality TV, it's such a diverse genre. 00:06:38:01 - 00:07:05:14 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ You can't pay a contestant on The Bachelor or Survivor the same as you do a housewife in a small ensemble cast or you can't pay the same for a designer on HGTV as much as you do a family member on a TLC show or you do you pay the same for a guy who's on a boat on Deadliest Catch as you do somebody who's competing for love on 90 day fiance. 00:07:05:16 - 00:07:26:22 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ So the genre so diverse that it's really hard to just throw numbers in there. You know, for a first season show. I think there's a lot of things that you need to take into consideration. But I do think rules and regulations are a good thing. And I think it's it's very valid to bring this up that we need to have that discussion. 00:07:26:22 - 00:08:15:07 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ I don't know if a union is the right thing, but I certainly feel like a little bit more firm. Ground rules are good thing. I would be remiss, though, if I didn't mention that producers have no union as well in unscripted television. So no insurance, no overtime and no residuals, and that often goes unmentioned. It would be amazing to get residuals when the networks run reality shows all day long on E, Bravo, MTV, Lifetime, etc. In fact, the writers on Ridiculousness are asking to join the WGA, I believe, as they should, because that show runs night and day on MTV and those folks are literally writing jokes as lead ins to the clips. 00:08:15:07 - 00:08:42:13 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ You know, other clip shows like America's Funniest Home Videos, 2.0, those writers are in the WGA. There's no reason why the folks on ridiculousness should be as well. But as you kind of can tell, it's a complicated issue. All right. Well, stick with reality TV, because why not? An article this past week and deadline had a lot of folks worried and a lot of people in reality TV are freaking out. 00:08:42:13 - 00:09:18:13 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ The headline to the article reads Doom and Gloom in Unscripted TV Producers battled challenging conditions As mid-sized firms face layoffs. It appropriately addresses the, quote, Slow down of green lights and cost cutting and quote, within the platforms and networks and how it has led to a slew of layoffs and a dearth of work in unscripted TV. The article references this drought hitting reputable companies like being a murray half yard hot snakes, high noon and propagate all very good companies. 00:09:18:16 - 00:09:45:08 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ One unscripted producer told DEADLINE, quote, It's the toughest time to be in unscripted that I can remember, unquote. Another said it was a, quote, brutal moment. I would agree. I would agree with both those producers. We all remain hopeful that things will rebound. I'm not going to hold my breath, but I will continue to tread water, keep my head above that water. 00:09:45:10 - 00:10:11:00 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ Nobody should feel alone, though. That is for sure. If you're struggling out there, you're worried, Hang in there, man. And that's why I got Tim Duffy coming up in a minute. Tim Duffy is my guest. Tim Duffy is an extremely talented producer, creative executive. He's an entrepreneur here, he is a founder and he is a seasoned teacher of meditation and mindfulness. 00:10:11:02 - 00:10:46:15 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ And that is why I wanted him to come on the podcast, right? So along with being co-founder of Yum Crunch and Ugly Brother Studios with his brother Mike. Tim is a peak performance and productivity specialist who combines 15 years of teaching meditation with 20 years in the C-suite to help executives, employees and organizations thrive. Now, as you'll hear, his style modernizes the ancient teachings of mindfulness and adapts them for modern professionals. 00:10:46:16 - 00:11:11:08 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ So with all the chaos going on in both the entertainment industry and in the world at large, I think he's the perfect guest. So sit back, find a quiet place, relax. Tim's got some words of wisdom for you. Enjoy. Well, welcome back to the podcast, my friend, Mr. Tim Duffy. A lot has changed since the last time we talked. 00:11:11:11 - 00:11:35:20 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ We talked last time about mindfulness. But you are now big into this world of mindfulness and meditation. You're now, I would call you a guru in this space. And this amidst your your role on world shifts and being, you know, being a founder, being a co-CEO with your brother in that space, in this crazy world that we're in right now with media and entertainment. 00:11:35:20 - 00:12:02:01 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ And I've talked about that on the podcast before, how, you know, everybody's kind of stressed out. I thought it was perfect for you to talk about kind of the way you deal with the stresses of this world with mindfulness meditation. So talk to me a little bit about when when the craziness comes into your world, whether it's as a dad or as an executive, how do you use mindfulness, how to use meditation to handle all the insanity that comes into the world? 00:12:02:03 - 00:12:17:13 GUEST: TIM DUFFY First of all, thank you for calling me a guru, which means teacher, right? Which is true. I am a meditation teacher, but in our Western culture it also means douche bag. So do not call me a guru. 00:12:17:15 - 00:12:21:22 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ Let me rephrase. You are not a guru. What's a better word? It's a better word. 00:12:21:24 - 00:12:28:02 GUEST: TIM DUFFY I'm. I am a mindfulness teacher. I've been teaching mindfulness for the past 15 years. 00:12:28:04 - 00:12:36:07 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ Okay, I agree. I will take back Guru and I will just say mindfulness Teacher. Instructor. Yes. Okay. 00:12:36:09 - 00:13:05:04 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Do the woo woo of the mindfulness community is so funny to me, right? Because like, the thing about mindfulness is it's, it's a practice that we can learn and it doesn't really take any special skills. Every single human being on earth has the ability to be mindful. And the the my particular set of circumstances brought me to mindfulness because of my own friend's anxiety and depression. 00:13:05:06 - 00:13:32:13 GUEST: TIM DUFFY And when I was growing up, I had this kind of pervasive sense that I was not well. I had a fear of death, a constant fear of death when I was growing up, a general kind of like unsatisfactory ness that was like the foundation of my experience and the world outside of my internal world didn't quite know about it, right? 00:13:32:13 - 00:14:01:08 GUEST: TIM DUFFY I wasn't like talking about it because I was, you know, a young man with the bravado of youth and I was seemingly doing pretty well in school and and in my work life. When I went to college, my freshman year, I was a psychology major. I wanted to work with kids. And I took this class called New Directions in Psychotherapy from this old hippie dude named Norman Bradford. 00:14:01:10 - 00:14:12:07 GUEST: TIM DUFFY He had he was like a he was he looked like a guru. He had flowy white hair, a long flowing, like Z.Z top beard. 00:14:12:13 - 00:14:14:05 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. 00:14:14:07 - 00:14:44:18 GUEST: TIM DUFFY And he was just a hippie who was obsessed with creating different avenues towards wellness that weren't solely dependent on the methods of Western psychology and science. Right. Which is, of course, the language of the West is material science. So he kind of he started this class called New Directions in Psychotherapy. And every single week all we did was a new kind of meditation. 00:14:44:20 - 00:15:11:06 GUEST: TIM DUFFY And one week we'd be climbing up a tree outside and just sitting in a tree and listening to the wind. And another week we would be listening to poetry, and another week we would be doing African drumming, you know. So this was the privileged life of, you know, a private college in Baltimore called Gautier, where I discovered these traditions. 00:15:11:06 - 00:15:53:22 GUEST: TIM DUFFY And I never looked back. I'd meditate, meditated every single day. Since then, I've accrued well over 10000 hours of meditation time in my life. I sit every single morning for about an hour in the morning. Meditation for me and mindfulness have become really kind of the backdrop against which absolutely everything that I experience is experienced. So that kind of dual path, right, of like growing up in the world, getting jobs and careers, and also simultaneously having this meditation practice in my life. 00:15:53:24 - 00:16:33:13 GUEST: TIM DUFFY It was the the job and the career and the life and the death and the sickness. All of that was grist for the mill, for the meditation practice, right? We don't recede back into a cave and become a monk for ten years. Although that exists, most of us actually have to pay the bills. Right, And has a great teacher, a guru named Ram Dass, that he said, Remember your true nature, which is awareness itself and your Social Security number. 00:16:33:15 - 00:16:59:13 GUEST: TIM DUFFY And so it's the pairing of these these two things where mindfulness can really help us thrive amidst whatever is happening. And I and there's a lot happening in our lives right now. Steve. You know, not just in a post-pandemic world of how do we we're continuing to figure out how do we exist together, how do we re socialize? 00:16:59:13 - 00:17:10:22 GUEST: TIM DUFFY We're pretty far on the other side of this. Yet a lot of folks are still trying to figure out, you know, how do I get out of the loneliness cycle? How do I socialize? 00:17:10:24 - 00:17:36:20 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ I think that's a great point. The re socialization, at least for me, you know, being on set, being around friends was something that you took for granted in 2019, right up until the pandemic. And then we all became Zoomers In one of your posts that I saw you, you were kind of saying when you were I think your point was that meditation and mindfulness is for everybody. 00:17:36:20 - 00:17:47:04 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ What do you feel like if you're a beginner? What is kind of that that first problem or that the first issue that people have with meditation or mindfulness? 00:17:47:06 - 00:18:36:07 GUEST: TIM DUFFY I think we step back even further and we go, Well, why do we need meditation and mindfulness, right, to develop an adversarial relationship with meditation and mindfulness is just a continuation of the reason why we come to meditate, meditation and mindfulness, right? Which is because we suffer the foundation of mindfulness, which of course is pulled from Buddhism. It's kind of the secular, if you will, set of practices that we're born out of a Buddhist tradition, of course, which was preceded by Hindu tradition and the Buddha, he said, We suffer because we are attached. 00:18:36:09 - 00:19:10:24 GUEST: TIM DUFFY And it begs the question, well, what are we attached to? And the answer to that is we're attached to permanence. We believe that things are going to stick around. They're going to stay that our our lives are going to stay the same when things are going really well. We want things to change when things aren't going well, but when things are going really well, we don't want things to change. 00:19:11:01 - 00:19:50:15 GUEST: TIM DUFFY So we suffer for things to change when things aren't going well. That means that when things are going well, they also have to change. This is the nature of our human life. We are born into this body and we get sick and we age and we die eventually. This is the starting point for why we suffer. We rage against the machine of our own human body and our attachment to being young or being pretty or being thin. 00:19:50:17 - 00:20:31:12 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Right is creating harm in our lives. Being human is a sexually transmitted disease that always ends in death. What did the Buddhist doctor write on the death certificate as the cause of death birth? That makes sense. Yeah, right. So we we somehow think that we're going to evade this reality. Everything changes. Impermanence is a fundamental law of being human. 00:20:31:14 - 00:21:00:22 GUEST: TIM DUFFY And this is why we ask the question, how can I decrease my suffering? What is it that can come into my head that I can bring into my life and provide myself with some sense of relief? And to begin the process of relief is to acknowledge the fundamental truth of our existence, that it changes, that everything is impermanent. 00:21:00:24 - 00:21:33:08 GUEST: TIM DUFFY And I think this is very much on display in the entertainment world for us right now. The old ways of living, of the consistency of getting a job, the consistency of a paycheck, right, the consistency of the big media machine, knowing how to monetize itself and thriving, you know, and yet simultaneously continually pissing all over the people and the companies that are feeding the machine of media. 00:21:33:10 - 00:22:13:19 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Right. We're in two of our deals are in strike mode right now, negotiating with this incredibly ill defined impermanent force called big media, who in and of itself, big media, doesn't know how to make a solvent business? How are we negotiating with a business that doesn't know how to monetize itself? Right. It's essential that we stand up and present ourselves back to big media and say we deserve to be paid, we deserve to be treated in equitable way. 00:22:13:21 - 00:22:48:23 GUEST: TIM DUFFY But at the same time, how are we negotiating with the machine that doesn't know how to run it? So at the core of the mindfulness, teaching is a is a concept that was derived from the US government. The Army College, I believe, created a term called VUCA at the end of the Cold War to kind of define know what is this thing that we're feeling in a term as a as a global community. 00:22:49:00 - 00:23:26:22 GUEST: TIM DUFFY And VUCA was developed and it stands for volatility, uncertainty, complexity and ambiguity, right? So volatility, uncertainty, complexity and ambiguity. Doesn't that sound familiar? In a word, impermanence And two words don't know. We don't know what's going to happen. We don't know what our future holds, right? We hold on to the past and we bring it into the present as concepts in our minds. 00:23:26:24 - 00:23:51:13 GUEST: TIM DUFFY And we we we carry this kind of this weight as we age. And this weight is like a suit of armor, right? The suit of armor somehow going to protect us because don't we know so much? I know who I am. I know what my skills are. I know what my what my future holds because of all these other things that I've done in my past. 00:23:51:15 - 00:24:21:22 GUEST: TIM DUFFY No, you don't. It could all end like that. And in fact, it does over and over and over again. We do not know what the future holds. The past is helpful in some regard in the present, but it cannot predict the future. And in fact, both the past and the future can only be experienced in the present moment. 00:24:21:24 - 00:25:09:04 GUEST: TIM DUFFY The past as a concept in the mind. The future is a concept in the mind, and both exist only in the present moment. So what are we to do in this mind that is constantly future in itself and freaking out? And sometimes we call this anxiety. And what do we do with the present moment in mind that is also regretting things from the past, bringing statements about the solidity of what was into the present moment, which is not solid at all, at least from a mental perspective, which is the only perspective we have. 00:25:09:06 - 00:25:40:06 GUEST: TIM DUFFY So what are we to do? One of the core practices in mindfulness is derived from, again, the Buddhist teachings in mindfulness communities. There's what's called the Three Jewels, the Buddha, which is like the teacher, the idealized kind of like being, so to speak, that knows how to relate to life from the perspective of wide open space, right? That still human, but also resting in awareness from a place of non reactivity. 00:25:40:08 - 00:26:13:23 GUEST: TIM DUFFY The teachings themselves. Dharma right, is the second jewel, which is the kind of wisdom that we as human beings, the great wisdom, traditions of the world, be them, you know, the Christian desert fathers, the second and third century, the Kabbalah teachings from Judaism, Sufi teachings from Islam, right? Native American teachings about the oneness of humanity and the interconnect and the interconnectedness of us as animals with animals and the earth around us. 00:26:13:23 - 00:26:37:07 GUEST: TIM DUFFY These are the great wisdom teachings of humanity, and they are not particular to any religion. So we have the kind of idealized human over here as the first jewel, and then we've got the second joy, which is the great wisdom traditions of the world. And then the third jewel is what you're building. And it's called Sangat, which means community. 00:26:37:09 - 00:27:10:20 GUEST: TIM DUFFY So every time you put out a podcast, you invite your world of people in to the shared experience of being together. And when they bring that shared experience in, they're sharing the 10,000 joys and the 10,000 sorrows. As my teacher, Jack Cornfield says, together, every person that listens to your podcast right now has a set of impermanent characteristics by definition that are rising up in their lives. 00:27:10:20 - 00:27:41:03 GUEST: TIM DUFFY They've got the transition of life, they've got a baby being born or a parent or a family member dying. They've just gotten a new job or a raise or they just got fired and they no longer have income. All right. Their digest ing the food from lunch that will give them the energy to write the emails this afternoon. 00:27:41:05 - 00:28:22:23 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Right. This is all just process. We are interconnected with the world around us and Sangat is representative of community. And Vivek Murthy, the surgeon general, he writes about the epidemic of loneliness. If I don't think we should all jump in to becoming meditators and following a particular religion or or, or a particular way of viewing the world first, I think the first thing we should do is find a friend and have a conversation and then maybe find another friend and have another conversation. 00:28:23:00 - 00:28:42:04 GUEST: TIM DUFFY I think to recognize the suffering that exists in our world and to begin to alleviate that suffering, we should start by actually connecting with other human beings and saying, yes, I'm here for you. And by the way, also, I need help. Can we talk? Can we communicate? 00:28:42:06 - 00:29:02:15 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ I can relate to everything you're saying. And I'm I'm curious. Do you do you kind of utilize your meditation and your mindfulness, like in the morning? Do you do it right away? Or how does it kind of on a practical level, come into play for you personally? How have you found it to be effective in your life? 00:29:02:21 - 00:29:26:05 GUEST: TIM DUFFY There are two methods that I utilize in my life that are available to all of us. One is called formal meditation. We develop a ritual of sitting down in a particular way under particular circumstances that create a bit of a ritual that's signified to the body and to the mind. Now is the time when I'm going to do this, like sitting down for a meal. 00:29:26:07 - 00:29:54:17 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Some people say grace, some people hold hands, some people take a big, deep breath. Some people just dive right in and eat a meal together. It's about ritual to kind of establish that this is the safe container for this particular experience. That's what formal meditation is. And so I'll sit formally every single morning, but then periodically on an as needed basis, I'll also sit and meditate. 00:29:54:19 - 00:30:23:19 GUEST: TIM DUFFY And I begin by saying, okay, now is the time when I'm going to meditate. The second style of practice, which is called informal practice or in your life meditation. And this is like microdosing right throughout the day and all you're doing with informal meditation and is, you know, in in modern neuroscience tells us that we have a top down model of the world. 00:30:23:19 - 00:31:11:19 GUEST: TIM DUFFY What does that mean? It means that the mind is how we experience our lives. That and this is not a an overexaggeration or some kind of spiritual statement. Actually, modern neuroscience tells us that we actually are only capable of processing our experience through the mind, right? So we're not directly experiencing anything. Our mind is interpreting data as it comes through each of the five sense doors telling a story about that data and asking the question, does it match up with previous information If it does not match up with previous information, three things can happen. 00:31:11:21 - 00:31:41:16 GUEST: TIM DUFFY One, it just gets bored and moves on because it's nothing special is happening to it feels some sort of threat and it freaks out and turns into anxiety or depression. Three It gets invigorated because of the novelty of whatever this new story is coming in and that says need more, need more, need more, right? These are the three possibilities that we experience all day long, every day as pleasant, unpleasant or neutral. 00:31:41:18 - 00:32:04:07 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Right? And so mindfulness allows us to kind of experience drop into a sense and set of awareness to a place of awareness of just about our. Does this feel pleasant? Does it feel unpleasant or am I neutral? Right? We can ask that question all day long. Am I feeling pleasant to my feeling unpleasant, or am I feeling neutral? 00:32:04:09 - 00:32:27:13 GUEST: TIM DUFFY And it can be that simple. You can just drop that question in to the zoom that you're having while you're pitching your show. Is this pleasant? Is this unpleasant or is it neutral? You can drop it into the tasting of an orange. You can drop it into the experience of sitting with your partner and having a conversation about their workday. 00:32:27:15 - 00:33:07:24 GUEST: TIM DUFFY You can drop it into the experience of laying down at night to go to bed all day long. These three filters, so to speak, of mind, are categorizing our experience. And when we become mindful of just this simple method, pleasant, unpleasant, neutral, we loosen the grip of of reactivity so that when something is unpleasant, for instance, someone cutting us off in traffic, we're not freaking out, honking on the horn and screaming at them and creating harm in the world. 00:33:08:01 - 00:33:34:04 GUEST: TIM DUFFY We just have that little gap, a tiny little gap where we go unpleasant. Welcome back. Unpleasant, You know, or that person on social media that Facebook person on social media that always spouts crazy political bullshit and you're like typing up your response and you're like, citing reference points from, you know, all of your, you know, your bubble of information. 00:33:34:04 - 00:33:35:04 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Yes. 00:33:35:06 - 00:33:40:18 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ You've got the article ready to post straight into the comment. Yes, I've been there. 00:33:40:20 - 00:34:13:15 GUEST: TIM DUFFY I've been there, too. I went on Facebook for like eight years because of this. And I came back to Facebook from the perspective of pleasant, unpleasant, neutral, right When I read someone's post that spouting some idiot bullshit that I view as idiot bullshit and I'm typing up my response. I know that I've been caught, I've been hooked into reactivity and what am I doing on Facebook if I feed the war right? 00:34:13:17 - 00:34:55:12 GUEST: TIM DUFFY How are we contributing to the benefit of humankind when we feed the war? There's a place for thoughtful opposition, right? But we can't get into the place of action of speaking and acting to the benefit of ourselves and other human beings. Unless we have a firm foundation of I know what's going on in my internal world, what is going on in my internal world, I activated, I am pissed off, I am typing this and my job is to make that person look like an idiot in front of all their friends that never, ever, ever works. 00:34:55:14 - 00:35:34:04 GUEST: TIM DUFFY There's a beautiful book called How Minds Change from an author named David McCranie, who did who explored the massive transition in California's view, both politically and culturally, about gay marriage. In 2008, 70% of the population was opposed to gay marriage. In 2008, 70% of the population was for gay marriage. What happened in ten years time for that shift? 00:35:34:06 - 00:36:06:07 GUEST: TIM DUFFY David McRaney talks about this. And at the core of it, spoiler alert is a method of investigation that political activists use called deep canvasing. And at the core of deep canvasing is deep listening, right? So when we come at a person with whom we disagree from the perspective of war, they will come at us with the perspective of war. 00:36:06:09 - 00:36:27:17 GUEST: TIM DUFFY But when we come at a person with whom we disagree from the perspective of I care about you and your experience in your life matter and I want to listen to you, and that doesn't mean that I have to agree with you, but it does mean that I will respect you and listen to you. That's where real change starts to happen. 00:36:27:21 - 00:36:54:03 GUEST: TIM DUFFY And that is the change that occurred in ten years time. With regard to gay marriage in California. Throughout our experience as human beings, there's that's part of the Dharma, right? That's human wisdom not coming from religion, not coming from tech, but just coming from one individual to another individual and saying, I care about you. I don't want to perpetuate the war. 00:36:54:03 - 00:37:22:13 GUEST: TIM DUFFY I genuinely want to connect with you. I want to build community. Our sangha is all beings on earth, and if we exclude one, we might as well exclude all of us. And it's from this perspective that we can actually take action and advance forward as a species to the benefit of ourselves and others. That's what mindfulness allows us to do. 00:37:22:15 - 00:37:28:14 GUEST: TIM DUFFY And there's tons of practices that we can explore and methods that we can explore. 00:37:28:16 - 00:37:50:00 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ So let's break down. You talk about kind of like the little moments of where you can bring thoughtfulness into your day and you use the example of somebody cut you off or somebody you know on social media. But let's talk about your on set and you have a disagreement with whether it's a colleague or a, let's say, talent. 00:37:50:02 - 00:38:08:02 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ How do you how would you or how have you kind of had that ability to go pleasant, unpleasant, right. And use some mindfulness to get yourself into a better place when you're having a disagreement or a bad moment on set? 00:38:08:04 - 00:38:37:21 GUEST: TIM DUFFY But one method that we can use is to acknowledge I love this maxim. If you can name it, you can work with it, right? And absolutely everything in our internal world is workable, right? Part of the foundation of what I help other peoples discover about themselves is our internal world is is like a dictator. Unless we recognize that the dictator doesn't need to lead the way. 00:38:37:21 - 00:39:12:11 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Right? The dictator is just an aspect of being human. It's called mind. And we all have this mind and it's a bunch of thoughts that proliferate in certain situations, paired with physical experience in the body. And when we push the dictator in a particular direction, the dictator fights back. So but we gently name the internal experience and we call it anger, for instance, and we just gently name it and we develop an attitude. 00:39:12:13 - 00:39:35:12 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Anger is unpleasant in the body, although it can be pleasant, seemingly pleasant for some people. Right. And there's no denying that either. Right? Some of us do feel that sense of anger. But on the other side of anger, when there's action and and it harms other people and ourselves, we have regrets. So we drop in to the space of saying anger is present quickly, just quickly write it. 00:39:35:14 - 00:40:23:08 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Anger, I name it. Anger is present. Take a big deep breath. Thank you. Host of Game Show or actor. I hear what you're saying. And we decide within ourselves in that moment that we are not the constricted accumulation of change yield energy that is that needs to be right. All that congealed, constricted energy is present in our system as anger, and we watch it from the perspective of awareness from the witness, we say welcome back. 00:40:23:08 - 00:40:50:19 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Anger gently in our mind as an attitude. Welcome back. Anger. I know you. I've worked with you before. You will continue to be present on and off for the rest of my life. So let's be friendly here and you're welcome to come and go as you please. Anger right? I'm not going to fight you. Anger. But what I will do is I will receive you in the wide open space of awareness and I will know your character mystics. 00:40:50:21 - 00:41:27:13 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Because when we feel anger in our body, it's never about the other person. It's never about the external situation. Anger is always us meeting ourselves in our internal experience. Always. There's never, ever, ever a situation where anger is caused by someone else. It's caused by the feeling we have when we encounter that extreme external force. It's our relationship to that external force that creates harm in our lives. 00:41:27:15 - 00:41:50:23 GUEST: TIM DUFFY So and it's our relationship really ultimately to the only force that forces that there are in our experiences, which are internal, the only thing we can ever experience in our awareness is the internal. So we say, welcome back, anger is present, take a big ass deep breath, recognize Anger's presence in our lives. Get better at recognizing when anger is present. 00:41:50:23 - 00:42:32:05 GUEST: TIM DUFFY And from that place of recognition and wide open spaces, awareness, we go now I will respond. Right. And if we can respond from the place of helpfulness, then great. We can respond from the place of neutrality and not causing harm. Great. If we respond from the place of harmfulness, that's okay too, because it gives us yet another opportunity to recognize anger's presence in our life and to relate to it in a in a more constructive, helpful way. 00:42:32:07 - 00:42:52:07 GUEST: TIM DUFFY We're not receding into the cave and becoming a monk. We're living our lives and we're growing with the experiences of our lives so that we can act and speak to the benefit of self and other. This is an ideal idealized state, and that's what we're talking about. 00:42:52:09 - 00:43:19:12 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ Another scenario you and I both know you put your heart and soul into developing a project. A lot of people are trusting you. You have talent, you've told them that we're know, we're pushing this forward and they're trusting you, your partners trust you. You've spent a lot of time on this and nobody wants it. 00:43:19:14 - 00:43:22:03 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Yeah. 00:43:22:05 - 00:43:45:11 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ How do you how do you use your skills to kind of not feel tense and to not feel like it? Let me now say empty, but to not feel like all that time energy in a lot of cases as a freelancer, money that was all a waste. 00:43:45:13 - 00:44:13:17 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Thank you for that question. It's a great and important question for those of us that generate from our internal experiences, ideas and concepts that we believe the world should love. My father said to me long ago when I first moved to Los Angeles, he said, If you have just one good idea, you ain't worth shit, right? I love that. 00:44:13:17 - 00:44:44:19 GUEST: TIM DUFFY And what it does is it just creates a sense of humor around it. Okay? Like, yeah, it's just one idea. You know? That being said, when we spend money and time and energy and relationships trying to get someone to finance that idea, the sting persists. So how do we relate to that Sting One way to relate to the sting is to recognize VUCA, the nebulosity of why things don't work, right? 00:44:44:20 - 00:45:27:11 GUEST: TIM DUFFY There is a network of complexity within the entertainment industry right now, and as it's been the case, you know, forever, but it's particularly apparent in today's world. We referenced it earlier as VUCA, but what is NEBULOSITY? Why did someone pass on that idea? Why didn't it work? It's in some ways it's a fool's errand, right? So we acknowledge the nebulosity of why a thing didn't work as a can, as an aspect of the experience of creating something and putting it out into the world, and then the world saying no to it. 00:45:27:13 - 00:45:58:13 GUEST: TIM DUFFY And we try to hold it a little less tight, right? We try to release the fist, the grip, so to speak, around what we believe to be a perfect idea that someone should buy and and give us money for right. And we reset our relationship to the idea and to the process of pitching from the firm Foundation of I don't know. 00:45:58:15 - 00:46:30:09 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Right. We reset. There we go. I don't know. It's nebulous. I done there. I could try to pursue all the different patterns and paths and understand all the different forces of the hundreds and thousands of people that participate in the thing. No process or I could just say nebulous, I don't know. And then I come back to the idea and from the place of a calmer, less attached position to the idea, we can then begin to refine the idea. 00:46:30:15 - 00:47:06:10 GUEST: TIM DUFFY We can start having conversations with other folks about the idea. It might be time to just drop the idea and come up with something completely different. But often isn't it really that there's something very interesting that many people responded to when you pitched the idea? But and that thing was what everybody kept talking about, and it was maybe a particular character that you wrote about or a particular style of hero's journey in the story that, you know, began with the ending first or whatever. 00:47:06:12 - 00:47:31:21 GUEST: TIM DUFFY And we say, All right, what was the world telling me about this process that actually was kind of consistent across some of these communications that I had that I can actually lift up that aspect of the thing that I created and perhaps reform it and add new, fresh elements and perspectives into it. In Silicon Valley, this is called the pivot. 00:47:31:23 - 00:48:00:23 GUEST: TIM DUFFY You know, I've gone through multiple stages of investment for my businesses. I've watched three startups in my time in Silicon Valley, especially in Pre-seed investment. They're not investing as much in the idea as they are investing in the individuals, right? They're seeing people, founders of businesses as folks that can adapt. And here is the great word overused but still relevant. 00:48:01:02 - 00:48:34:14 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Pivot, right? What have we learned from the path we've taken to today and how do we apply those learnings to the benefit of ourselves and others with regard to this particular idea moving forward? We cannot adapt and pivot if we are stuck in the place of no one gets me or that idea was awesome and I should keep pitching that exact idea as the same way I pitched it that everybody passed on 100 times. 00:48:34:16 - 00:49:04:08 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Our life is a process. Ideas are conceptual, just like your belief that Steve is a person who is permanent and independent, when in fact really all you are is a process that's evolving over time because of impermanence concepts we bring out into the world and we try to sell our impermanent By their very nature. Children grow up because of impermanence. 00:49:04:08 - 00:49:15:01 GUEST: TIM DUFFY We don't want babies to stay, babies for babies to stay, babies which sleep in a sea of babies who can't figure it out. And then there's poop everywhere, all over the world. Yeah. 00:49:15:01 - 00:49:17:11 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ You know, I don't think anybody wants that. 00:49:17:13 - 00:49:42:17 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Our ideas are like babies. We want them to grow up and to evolve. We don't want to stop them dead in their tracks. So we hold our ideas the way we hold a newborn baby. We feed it and we love it. And at a certain point, you've got to let the baby go. But also at a certain point, when the baby becomes a 14 or a 15 year old, you got to figure out what the baby's you. 00:49:42:19 - 00:49:56:12 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Right. And what the world is telling you about your 14 year old and how do we support the 14 year old to proliferate forward in the process of itself? It's the same thing with ideas. 00:49:56:14 - 00:50:02:04 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ I think that's a great analogy because you can only take care of so many kids. 00:50:02:06 - 00:50:07:14 GUEST: TIM DUFFY You got to let some of those kids go. Some of your kids are assholes, right? Yeah. 00:50:07:16 - 00:50:17:02 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ You can't take care of all of them. You start to, you know, you get to the Elon Musk stage. I mean, you're not the richest guy in the world. You got like ten kids. You can only take care of so many. 00:50:17:02 - 00:50:19:04 GUEST: TIM DUFFY So yeah, you can't rename all your kids. 00:50:19:04 - 00:50:31:03 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ Ex Exactly So I think that's a great analogy as each, each concept is, is a little baby and then it grows up and you got to let some of them go at some point. I think that's that's a great analogy. 00:50:31:08 - 00:50:35:20 GUEST: TIM DUFFY This is the law of impermanence and it's so helpful in every aspect of our lives. 00:50:35:22 - 00:50:59:01 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ Yeah. How do you, what, what advice would you give for somebody who's kind of nervously waiting to figure out what their role is in this kind of changing media ecosystem? That's kind of a vague question, but, you know, you and I both know if you're under 30, you're watching TikTok and YouTube and Netflix and pretty much that's it. 00:50:59:03 - 00:51:21:21 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ And if you are somebody who gets their work in the more legacy or traditional media, the cable networks or the broadcast, well, you know, life's going to be changing. And I think that's a big part of the problem with, you know, what's happening right now is people are watching content in a different way. We're still making content in a certain way. 00:51:21:21 - 00:51:45:01 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ Not as many people are going to movies with the exception of Barbie and Oppenheimer. So I think we're kind of stuck in this mode of, okay, what do I do now? What do I do now? And you're right, everything you just said is right. How do you pivot? What kind of advice would you give to somebody who's in that kind of anxious mode of, okay, well, where do I fit in? 00:51:45:03 - 00:52:15:18 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Wow, what a beautiful question. I give this advice to people all day long. So, as you know, Steve, I've pivoted. I've been teaching meditation for 15 years to my friends throughout the entertainment community. And about a year and a half ago, the demand got so great and I was saying no, far too many people that I just decided that I needed to open up my my own life to support other people. 00:52:15:18 - 00:52:44:13 GUEST: TIM DUFFY So I, I work with executives and producers and and businesses to answer this question of how do we move forward and success in the face of VUCA, Volatility, uncertainty, complexity, ambiguity. So the first thing we do is we acknowledge VUCA. We don't know what is to come. 00:52:44:15 - 00:53:22:07 GUEST: TIM DUFFY We step back into awareness and we recognize let's talk about an individual, right? So we'll call this individual Bob. Bob is a show runner who's been extremely successful for 15 years. He's worked on many shows and he's not had a job for a year and a half. Bob is an expert in storytelling, but Bob is relying on external forces to validate his expertise. 00:53:22:09 - 00:53:53:20 GUEST: TIM DUFFY He's saying, I'm going to wait for those forces to signal back to me that I'm okay and that my belief in myself as being essential to the success of those external forces, big media production companies, television companies that I am essential to their success, then they will come around to me as a key element that will help them regain their success in their own worlds. 00:53:53:22 - 00:54:32:14 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Bob needs to recognize that VUCA is actually happening for them as well, and so he needs to step back and say, What is it that I'm hanging on to? What we often are hanging on to is a sense of fixed identity. We believe ourselves to be a certain thing. I am a showrunner, I am X, I am what I am a husband. 00:54:32:16 - 00:55:05:00 GUEST: TIM DUFFY I am a father. I am smart, I am, I am. Whatever it is that I've perpetuated throughout my life and felt as if I could rest in that identity. But what is that identity and where is that identity? Upon further review, we begin to understand that that identity is in our minds. It lives in the abstractions of mind. 00:55:05:02 - 00:55:37:24 GUEST: TIM DUFFY It lives in the non tangible abstraction of awareness, its thoughts, its physical feelings in awareness. It's tension, it's contraction. But yet on my LinkedIn page, it says all these things, right? Well, my LinkedIn page should be all you need to know about why you should hire me and why you should use me to solve your problems. Big Media. 00:55:38:01 - 00:56:01:16 GUEST: TIM DUFFY And we look a little deeper at our LinkedIn page and we remove our connection and our attachment to the identity of our LinkedIn page. We can start to see actually a pattern. What is that pattern? When we remove our attachment to us being a particular way, the pattern is actual skills that are useful and viable in the world. 00:56:01:16 - 00:56:41:15 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Storytelling, for instance, for Bob, is not what's going away. Stories will forever be what makes us human. There will always be demand for stories, and arguably there is more of a demand than ever for story. It's just that we are attached to the old delivery systems. So when I step back in my LinkedIn identity and I go, okay, maybe that my stories and my belief that my stories are valuable to Netflix or Amazon or to, you know, CBS or whatever, maybe I step back from that and go, Well, what is living underneath that? 00:56:41:15 - 00:57:06:14 GUEST: TIM DUFFY I'm a fucking Ph.D. in storytelling, right? And then I start thinking, Well, what else is in my resume? Well, I've always wanted to work with kids or I've always wanted to work in the wellness industry, or I've always wanted to work in. I'm obsessed with a guy. What is going on in the world, Right? A growth industry, by the way. 00:57:06:16 - 00:57:33:16 GUEST: TIM DUFFY And then we start to ask the question, what? I have this kind of life earned PhD in storytelling. What if I just disentangled it from the delivery systems with which I've grown attached to which I've grown attached? And I ask the question, are there other delivery systems that will allow me to use these skills in ways that people and businesses will benefit? 00:57:33:18 - 00:58:01:04 GUEST: TIM DUFFY And the answer is hell yes, there are. In fact, there's more opportunity than ever for people like us. We've been telling stories our whole lives. The only obstacle towards our ability to do so is our attachment to our own identity. Our ego. We have to let go, drop back into awareness and reposition ourselves from the perspective of, Oh, I actually have a choice. 00:58:01:06 - 00:58:51:04 GUEST: TIM DUFFY And in fact it's infinite. But I do not have choice if I believe myself to be this label in this world. And I can only exist in that as this label in this particular world dropped the labels dropped the world's reassess, and from the place of wide open space reemerge into the world and take action. Have conversations with folks, put the word out there that you're an expert storyteller to 50 brands that you're interested in working with, all of whom in today's world are likely to need some form of expert storytelling in order for their brands to evolve to meet the needs of their clients and their customers. 00:58:51:06 - 00:59:30:15 GUEST: TIM DUFFY So that is what that's the advice that I give and it's the advice I took my sales man. You know, I haven't launched three startups because because I felt so comfortable that television was going to give me everything that I needed. I disentangled myself from the belief that television was the only way, and I've reconfigured my own relationship to the skills that I have developed over time and redeployed them back out into the world by communicating with my sangha, with my community, which is much larger than it ever was. 00:59:30:17 - 00:59:41:01 GUEST: TIM DUFFY And why? Because I actually engaged and I asked questions and I said hello and hey, I need help, or Hey, can I help you? 00:59:41:03 - 01:00:06:10 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ Dude, that's awesome. I think that's great advice. I think that is advice that a lot of people, myself included, could use. All right. Before I let you go, I have to ask you how you're feeling about your Philadelphia Eagles coming up this season. I mean, look so close last year. Is this a Super Bowl year for the Eagles? 01:00:06:12 - 01:00:27:02 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Around the birth of my second child, I had to let go of the identity as an Eagles fan. So, like so right now I have three kids now, a three and a half year old talk about letting go. So every time I engage somebody that talks about sports, I go sports. Yay! And I don't really know what's going on in the sports world. 01:00:27:04 - 01:00:37:23 GUEST: TIM DUFFY I frankly, I barely watched any Eagles games last year. Super Bowl was great, by the way. Philadelphia had a great year last year's Super Bowl, World Series, MLS Championship. 01:00:37:23 - 01:00:41:10 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ That's true. I forgot to ask. Yeah, I've got to ask about the Phillies. Yeah. 01:00:41:12 - 01:01:10:03 GUEST: TIM DUFFY The only reason I know any of that is because everyone that I used to connect with about sports from Philly was talking about it on social media. My son. Right. My community. Yes. And I couldn't I couldn't I had to pay attention when folks when they got to the to the championship games. But prior to that, frankly, I was like, you know, I've got to change a diaper. 01:01:10:05 - 01:01:32:04 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Okay. I don't know what's going to happen this year, but I can't wait to connect with with more people and maybe watch more games. And but I'm not going to stay attached to it. And now come really doesn't matter to me that much. It's really just about being able to see the joy in other people's faces. I was at Disneyland the week after the Eagles lost the Super Bowl last year. 01:01:32:04 - 01:02:09:13 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Right, with my kids. My kids were on a ride and we were with a bunch of other people. They went over to California Adventure and I hadn't bought the two pass ticket or whatever. So I'm like, You guys go over there, I'm going to hang back at Disneyland and I'm just going to get quiet. So I quite literally like the week after the Eagles lost the Super Bowl and I quite literally picked a bench at the entryway to the park and I put my earbuds in and I sat down and I started to meditate because I knew they would be gone for about an hour. 01:02:09:15 - 01:02:41:22 GUEST: TIM DUFFY So I'm sitting there, the weirdo sitting on the bench with a blank look on his face, just experiencing the presence of what was happening in front of me. And what started to happen in front of me was that bastard Patrick Mahomes and a parade of celebration. Oh, wow. Oh wow. That I had no idea was about that. And down Main Street, Disney starts happening in front of my face meditating. 01:02:41:23 - 01:03:17:03 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Wow, I have an Eagles hat off, right? And you know what? And instead of you know, and I say bastard, like, obviously. But like, what I witnessed was joy everywhere around me, right? A sea of the colors of the opposition, so to speak. And the man that right. It was Patrick Mahomes. I'm talking about it. Yeah. So. And the man that won the game literally walking directly in front of me as I'm meditating and I didn't feel hate and I didn't feel angst and I didn't feel anxiety. 01:03:17:03 - 01:03:34:14 GUEST: TIM DUFFY I felt joy because I was witnessing the joy of all these other human beings. I think that's the way we should live in the sports world, you know, And I think that's the way we should live in our lives. If we can feel joy for others, then we can actually feel joy for ourselves because everything is an internal experience. 01:03:34:14 - 01:03:50:17 GUEST: TIM DUFFY So when we feel joy for ourselves or for others, what are we actually doing? We're encountering ourselves in a joyful state, right? Waking up to that reality is a game changer. And I think mindfulness meditation can help folks in that regard. 01:03:50:19 - 01:03:58:11 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ Yeah, I concur. All right. Last thing, tell me a little about Yum Crunch, your company that you have with your brother Mike. 01:03:58:13 - 01:04:18:24 GUEST: TIM DUFFY So Yum Crunch is a you know, we've won some Emmys for the food content that we've made over the years, nominated for nine Emmy and five James Beard Awards. We won two Emmys a couple of years back. Again, this is about the pivot, right? This is what's available to us. We looked at our skills and we're like, we have all these chef relationships. 01:04:18:24 - 01:04:42:18 GUEST: TIM DUFFY We have the ability to tell extraordinary food stories. Well, one of the frustrations that we experience with our food shows was big media wasn't giving our viewers the opportunity to eat what they see. So we created Young Crunch to solve that problem. So we work with some of the world's best chefs and influencers to create content that you can taste in. 01:04:42:18 - 01:05:23:12 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Go to Yum Crunch dot com. You can follow us on all of our socials at Yum Yum Crunch y you and Drew and see and experience the stories that we tell and have the opportunity to buy what you see. My consultancy is Tim Duffy Meditation Ecom. I specialize in science and mindfulness based peak performance for executives and producers and companies to re approach their lives from a firm foundation of being awake to the assets that they have available to themselves. 01:05:23:14 - 01:05:49:20 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Acknowledging the difficulties but not wallowing in the difficulties. Right. How do we advance forward in our lives if we're stuck in the old habits of mind, we can actually thrive when we let go of the old habits of mind, and we recognize the true potential of what we all bring to this earth to one another. So that's what I'm setting out to do with Tim Duffy, meditation Icon. 01:05:49:22 - 01:05:53:22 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ Tim, thank you for doing the podcast one more time. I appreciate it, brother. 01:05:53:24 - 01:05:57:10 GUEST: TIM DUFFY Thank you so much. Much Love to You have a beautiful day. 01:05:57:12 - 01:06:31:19 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ Before I go, I'll recommend a couple documentaries for you. Feel up sports. Give Johnny Football a watch. That's the Johnny Manziel documentary on Netflix. Remember Big Johnny, Texas A&M, huge superstar, won the Heisman, then a lot problems when he got to the NFL. Very fun, very entertaining. And another one to check out the YouTube effect. It is a comprehensive deep dive doc by Alex Winter really shows you how powerful YouTube is and will continue to be. 01:06:31:21 - 01:07:03:01 HOST: STEVE BERKOWITZ All right. That is going to do it for another episode of No Script, No problem for everybody listening. Please remember to subscribe, download and show it five stars. It's available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, Amazon and tune in. You can also find it at Wycombe and I Believe podcast. 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The Brainy Business | Understanding the Psychology of Why People Buy | Behavioral Economics
In this episode of The Brainy Business podcast, host Melina Palmer is joined by Dr. Tessa West, a renowned expert in social psychology and communication. They dive deep into the topic of workplace jerks, exploring the different types of jerky behaviors that exist and providing valuable insights on how to address and prevent these behaviors. Throughout the conversation, Melina and Tessa discuss the complexities of workplace dynamics, highlighting the structural issues that enable jerky behaviors to flourish. They emphasize the importance of recognizing these underlying systems and structures, rather than only viewing jerky behaviors as isolated incidents caused by individual bad apples. By understanding the systemic factors that contribute to such behaviors, individuals and organizations can take proactive steps to create a healthier work environment. Tessa also shares practical tips for individuals to identify red flags during the job interview process and early on in a new job. By being aware of the organizational structures and systems that may contribute to jerky behaviors, individuals can make informed decisions about their long-term job satisfaction. Overall, this episode offers valuable insights and advice for both managers and employees dealing with workplace jerks. It provides a fresh perspective on the topic, emphasizing the importance of addressing structural issues and fostering a healthy work environment to improve overall workplace dynamics. Recognize markers of negative characters in your workplace and their potential effects. Master techniques to dissolve issues arising from uneasy workplace interactions. Appreciate how our use of language subtly influences our perspective and behavior. Identify the link between empathy and successful communication, charting a path for stronger relationships. Understand how stereotypes maneuver personal and team performance and the ways to buffer their influence. Show Notes: 00:00:00 - Introduction, Host Melina Palmer welcomes Dr. Tessa West. Tessa discusses her background as a social psychology professor and her research on uncomfortable social interactions. 00:03:07 - Uncomfortable Social Interactions, Dr. West explains her research focus on uncomfortable social interactions and how she measures discomfort using physiological responses. She discusses the prevalence of discomfort in the workplace and the lack of effective strategies for handling it. 00:06:07 - Freezing and Rationalizing Discomfort, The tendency to freeze and rationalize discomfort in the workplace is discussed. Tessa emphasizes the need to address small discomforts before they accumulate and cause stress-related health issues. She offers tips on handling discomfort without confrontation. 00:08:24 - Cumulative Discomfort and Health, Dr. West explains how cumulative discomfort in the workplace can lead to stress-related health issues. She highlights the importance of addressing small discomforts and offers strategies for managing them effectively. 00:11:42 - Tell Us About Your Dissertation, Tessa briefly discusses her dissertation on interpersonal accuracy and the motivation to be inaccurate when accuracy threatens relationships. She shares an unpublished study on how threat affects individuals' perception of their partner's attractiveness. 00:14:26 - "Introduction and Funny Dissertation Stories", Melina shares a humorous anecdote from a Friends episode and Tessa jokes she could have just cited that instead of doing her dissertation. They discuss the interesting process of doing a dissertation and how it shapes one's work. 00:15:11 - "Types of Jerks at Work", Tessa breaks down the different types of jerks at work featured in her book, starting with the "kiss up kick downer" who impresses the boss but treats colleagues poorly. She also discusses the "credit stealer," "bulldozer," "free rider," "micromanager," "neglectful boss," and the more manipulative "gaslighter." 00:19:10 - "Micromanagers and Neglectful Bosses", Tessa delves deeper into the micromanager, who tends to have control issues and struggles with balancing their old job and new management role. She also discusses the neglectful boss, who oscillates between micromanagement and neglect, causing stress and instability. 00:20:56 - "Gaslighters at Work", Tessa explains the manipulative tactics of gaslighters, who lie to create a false reality and often have power and status. Gaslighters can make it difficult for their victims to fight back due to their strategic manipulation and the victims' own involvement in potentially unethical actions. 00:28:18 - Understanding the Root of Workplace Problems, Tessa West advises people to look beyond individual "bad apples" and consider the structural issues within their workplace that breed toxic behavior. By examining the systems and incentives that allow these behaviors to occur, individuals can make more informed decisions about their work environment. 00:29:27 - Red Flags to Look for in a New Workplace, Tessa suggests paying attention to red flags during the interview process or when starting a new job. She recommends looking for signs of a workplace that values certain behaviors, such as promotions based on sales rather than training and development. Identifying these red flags can help prevent future toxic behavior. 00:30:47 - Longevity of a Job and Workplace Dynamics, Tessa emphasizes the importance of considering the longevity of a job and how workplace dynamics can change over time. Just because a workplace seems great initially doesn't mean it will remain that way. A few bad hires or a workplace that fosters toxic behavior can quickly turn a positive environment into a negative one. 00:31:43 - Advice for Small Business Owners, Tessa offers advice for small to mid-sized business owners who may feel overworked and stressed, leading to toxic behavior. She suggests that uncertainty is often a trigger for “work jerkery.” By addressing uncertainty and creating a psychologically safe environment, business owners can prevent themselves from micromanaging or neglecting their team. 00:36:12 - Identifying if You're the Jerk at Work, Tessa discusses ways that the listener can determine if they are the “jerk” as well as what to do when you realize you have been a jerk (it happens!) 00:42:10 - Show Notes and Resources, Melina reminds listeners to check the show notes for links to past episodes and books mentioned in the conversation, including Jerks at Work, The Power of Us, How Minds Change, Getting Along, and The Microstress Effect. 00:42:39 - Conclusion, Melina's top insights from the conversation. What stuck with you while listening to the episode? What are you going to try? Come share it with Melina on social media -- you'll find her as @thebrainybiz everywhere and as Melina Palmer on LinkedIn. Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show. I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation. Let's connect: Melina@TheBrainyBusiness.com The Brainy Business® on Facebook The Brainy Business on Twitter The Brainy Business on Instagram The Brainy Business on LinkedIn Melina on LinkedIn The Brainy Business on Youtube Learn and Support The Brainy Business: Check out and get your copies of Melina's Books. Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode: Jerks at Work, by Tessa West The Power of Us, by Dominic Packer and Jay Van Bavel How Minds Change, by David McRaney Getting Along, by Amy Gallo The Microstress Effect, by Rob Cross and Karen Dillon Connect with Tessa: Follow Tessa on LinkedIn Tessa on Twitter Tessa's website Top Recommended Next Episode: Getting Along, with Amy Gallo (ep 269) Already Heard That One? Try These: How To Change, with David McRaney (ep 210) A More Just Future, with Dolly Chugh (ep 247) The Power of Us with Dominic Packer (ep 304) Fundamental Attribution Error (ep 268) Reciprocity (ep 238) Unity (ep 216) Vulnerability Loops (ep 229) Focusing Illusion (ep 89) Priming (ep 252) Framing (ep 296) Mixed Signals, with Uri Gneezy (ep 273) Unlocking Employee Motivation with Kurt Nelson (ep 295) Secrets of Incentives and Motivation, with Tim Houlihan (ep 109) Other Important Links: Brainy Bites - Melina's LinkedIn Newsletter Tessa West's lab
Science journalist and bestselling author David McRaney, author of the books How Minds Change and You Are Now Less Dumb, takes the Gaslit Nation Self-Care Q&A. For our next Gaslit Nation live taping, join Andrea and comedian Kevin Allison of the RISK! Storytelling podcast for a show at Caveat in New York on Saturday August 5th at 4pm to celebrate the launch of the new Gaslit Nation graphic novel Dictatorship: It's Easier Than You Think! To join in person or virtually, reserve your ticket here! Signed copies of the book can be ordered at the event! To submit your own answers and share inspiration for ways to recharge as we together run a marathon to protect our democracy, leave your answers in the comments section or send an email to GaslitNation@gmail.com. We'll read some of the responses on the show! Gaslit Nation Self-Care Questionnaire What's a book you think everyone should read and why? What's a documentary everyone should watch and why? What's a dramatic film everyone should watch and why? Who are some historical mentors who inspire you? What's the best concert you've ever been to? What are some songs on your playlist for battling the dark forces? Who or what inspires you to stay engaged and stay in the fight? What's the best advice you've ever gotten? What's your favorite place you've ever visited? What's your favorite work of art and why?
It's Independence Day! There's no better way to celebrate than standing up to a bully. Whether it's a twice-indicted Russian mafia asset running for president, or his cult of violent white supremacists, there's no shortage of bullies running amok these days. Science journalist and bestselling author David McRaney, author of the books How Minds Change and You Are Now Less Dumb, shares his research on how to handle a situation where the person you're talking to insists on an alternative reality, using that to try to gaslight, intimidate, and, in a word, bully. At Gaslit Nation, one of the questions we often get from our listeners is how to help loved ones lost to a disinformation cult, like QAnon and Trump's Big Lie. From harassing election workers to overwhelming school board meetings to disinformation merchants challenging actual experts to debates (“Debate me, bro!”), the Bannon strategy of flooding the zone with shit has ensnared people, separating families and friends. McRaney shares his surprising insights on how to reach people and provide an empathetic space for them to find their way back. For more on this topic, listen to Gaslit Nation's discussion with cult expert Dr. Janja Lalich, who recommends a slightly approach. Both discussions are essential guides for navigating this time of rampant disinformation and toxic political cults. In our bonus episode, McRaney takes the Gaslit Nation Self-Care Q&A. For our next Gaslit Nation live taping, join Andrea and comedian Kevin Allison of the RISK! Storytelling podcast for a show at Caveat in New York on Saturday August 5th at 4pm to celebrate the launch of the new Gaslit Nation graphic novel Dictatorship: It's Easier Than You Think! To join in person or virtually, reserve your ticket here! Signed copies of the book can be ordered at the event! To submit your own answers and share inspiration for ways to recharge as we together run a marathon to protect our democracy, leave your answers in the comments section or send an email to GaslitNation@gmail.com. We'll read some of the responses on the show! Gaslit Nation Self-Care Questionnaire What's a book you think everyone should read and why? What's a documentary everyone should watch and why? What's a dramatic film everyone should watch and why? Who are some historical mentors who inspire you? What's the best concert you've ever been to? What are some songs on your playlist for battling the dark forces? Who or what inspires you to stay engaged and stay in the fight? What's the best advice you've ever gotten? What's your favorite place you've ever visited? What's your favorite work of art and why?
Read the full transcript here. What is persuasion, and what is it not? How does persuasion differ from coercion? What is the Elaboration Likelihood Model (ELM) of persuasion? How are the concepts of assimilation and accommodation related to persuasion? Motivated reasoning is usually seen as a cognitive bias or error; but what if all reasoning is motivated? Are we motivated more by physical death or social death? How much evidence would Flat-Earthers need in order to be convinced that Earth is round? What are "deep" canvassing and "street" epistemology? In what contexts are they most effective? Under what conditions is persuasion morally acceptable?David McRaney is a science journalist fascinated with brains, minds, and culture. He created the podcast You Are Not So Smart based on his 2009 internationally bestselling book of the same name and its followup, You Are Now Less Dumb. Before that, he cut his teeth as a newspaper reporter covering Hurricane Katrina on the Gulf Coast and in the Pine Belt region of the Deep South. Later, he covered things like who tests rockets for NASA, what it is like to run a halfway home for homeless people who are HIV-positive, and how a family sent their kids to college by making and selling knives. Since then, he has been an editor, photographer, voiceover artist, television host, journalism teacher, lecturer, and tornado survivor. Most recently, after finishing his latest book, How Minds Change, he wrote, produced, and recorded a six-hour audio documentary exploring the history of the idea and the word: genius. Learn more about him at davidmcraney.com, or follow him on Twitter at @davidmcraney. [Read more]
人到底為什麼這麼愛辯? 明明你覺得自己講得頭頭是道、完全站得住腳,但對方就是聽不進去你的話,硬要跟你辯呢? 問題出在哪裡?是對方?又或者,有沒有可能,其實是你自己? 資歷豐富的科學記者 大衛·麥瑞尼(David McRaney),一直對大腦、思想和文化相關議題深深著迷,在推出兩本國際暢銷書《 You Are Not So Smart你沒那麼聰明》和《You Are Now Less Dumb 你沒有你想的那麼聰明》後,他的第三本新作《How Minds Change如何讓人改變想法》,更是直搗人類最困擾的溝通說服議題,透過科學角度和實證研究,來一一抽絲剝繭,人到底是如何改變想法的? 在這集的節目中,我們邀請到譯者 林俊宏先生,一起導讀這本精彩的書,他也是另一暢銷巨作《人類大歷史》等三部曲的譯者,翻譯經驗豐富,也對溝通對話與思想的碰撞等議題有非常獨到的洞察和見解。 所以,「改變一個人的想法」的關鍵到底是什麼呢?一起來聽聽林俊宏與劉軒的導讀! ▬ ▬ ▬ ▬ ▬ ▬
Marina Nitze is a professional fixer of broken systems – a hacker, not of computers and technology, but of the social phenomena that tend to emerge when people get together and form organizations, institutions, services, businesses, and governments. In short, she hacks bureaucracies and wants to teach you how to do the same.- Hack Your Bureaucracy: https://www.hackyourbureaucracy.com- Marina Nitze: https://www.marinanitze.com- How Minds Change: www.davidmcraney.com/howmindschangehome- David McRaney's Twitter: https://twitter.com/davidmcraney- YANSS Twitter: https://twitter.com/notsmartblog- Show Notes: www.youarenotsosmart.com- Newsletter: https://davidmcraney.substack.com
Request A Customized Workshop For Your Company: https://www.americannegotiationinstitute.com/services/workshops/ In this episode, David McRaney from You Are Not So Smart Podcast, discusses how minds change by exploring the factors that influence our beliefs. He talks about how to avoid unproductive arguments and change minds through listening. Buy the book "How Minds Change" https://www.amazon.com/s?k=how+minds+change+david+mcraney&sprefix=How+Minds+cha%2Caps%2C356&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_2_13 Listen to the "You Are Not So Smart" Podcast https://www.davidmcraney.com/podcast Follow David McRaney on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmcraney/ https://www.davidmcraney.com/ https://www.davidmcraney.com/ Follow Kwame Christian on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kwamechristian/ The Ultimate Negotiation Guide: https://www.americannegotiationinstitute.com/guides/ultimate-negotiation-guide/ Click here to buy your copy of How To Have Difficult Conversations About Race!: https://www.amazon.com/Have-Difficult-Conversations-About-Race/dp/1637741308/ref=pd_%5B%E2%80%A6%5Df0bc9774-7975-448b-bde1-094cab455adb&pd_rd_i=1637741308&psc=1 Click here to buy your copy of Finding Confidence in Conflict: How to Negotiate Anything and Live Your Best Life!: https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Confidence-Conflict-Negotiate-Anything/dp/0578413736/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2PSW69L6ABTK&keywords=finding+confidence+in+conflict&qid=1667317257&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIwLjQyIiwicXNhIjoiMC4xNCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMjMifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=finding+confidence+in+conflic%2Caps%2C69&sr=8-1
In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss Chapter 3 of David McRaney's book, How Minds Change and unpack the impact that perception has on our understandings and interpretations of the world. Things that bring us joy this week: Appertivo (https://www.eataly.ca/news/aperitivo/) Great Scoops cookbook (https://www.figure1publishing.com/book/great-scoops/) Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind (https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind)
David McRaney is the author of How Minds Change and that concept is the basis of his conversation with Dr. Doug and Meg. From his upbringing to his journey through writing and how writing about how minds change in turn changes his mind many times. Human resistance to change, specifically change of opinion, is a tale as old as time and the conversation that exists in that space can teach you so much about not only yourself, but the other person. You can find David at davidmcraney.com and on socials @davidmcraney. His podcast is You Are Not So Smart and you can find that at youarenotsosmart.com. His latest book, How Minds Change is available on Amazon
Astronomer Phil Plait joins us to discuss his new book, Under Alien Skies, in which he describes what it would be like (through human eyes and real physical experiences) to actually travel to Saturn, Mars, asteroids, and distant stars. Also, we discuss the recent surge in UFO sighting as well ad his famous talk at The Amazing Meeting more than a decade ago in which he asked all science communicators and critical thinkers to approach those who believe in pseudoscience with empathy and respect instead of scorn and vitriol. And, we run through the history of James Randi's popularization of the big-S Skeptic movement.- Phil Plait's Substack: https://badastronomy.substack.com/- How Minds Change: www.davidmcraney.com/howmindschangehome- David McRaney's Twitter: https://twitter.com/davidmcraney- YANSS Twitter: https://twitter.com/notsmartblog- Show Notes: www.youarenotsosmart.com- Newsletter: https://davidmcraney.substack.com
The world feels more divided than ever. Left versus right. Anti-vaxxer versus doctors. Marvel versus DC. But can you change someone's mind and bring them over to your side? Author and journalist David McRaney joins host Brett Hendrie to talk about why we dig into our beliefs and how, with the right approach, we can actually change people's minds, including our own.
Is a hotdog a sandwich?Well, that depends on your definition of a sandwich (and a hotdog), and according to the most recent research in cognitive science, the odds that your concept of a sandwich is the same as another person's concept are shockingly low.In this episode we explore how understanding why that question became a world-spanning argument in the mid 2010s helps us understand some of the world-spanning arguments vexing us today. Our guest is psychologist Celeste Kidd who studies how we acquire and conceptualize information, form beliefs around those concepts, and, in general, make sense of the torrent of information blasting our brains each and every second. Her most recent paper examines how conceptual misalignment can lead to semantic disagreements, which can lead us to talk past each other (and get into arguments about things like whether hotdogs are sandwiches).• Celeste Kidd's Website: https://www.kiddlab.com• Celeste Kidd's Twitter: https://twitter.com/celestekidd• How Minds Change: www.davidmcraney.com/howmindschangehome• David McRaney's Twitter: https://twitter.com/davidmcraney• YANSS Twitter: https://twitter.com/notsmartblog• Show Notes: www.youarenotsosmart.com• Newsletter: https://davidmcraney.substack.com• Latent Diversity in Human Concepts: https://tinyurl.com/25544m3v
This is the third episode in a three-part series about how to have difficult conversations with people who see the world differently, how to have better debates about contentious issues, and how to ethically and scientifically persuade one another about things that matter – in short, this is a three-part series about How Minds Change (which is also the title of my new book).There seems to be a movement afoot, a new wave of nonfiction about how to reduce all this argumentative madness and epistemic chaos. I want to boost everyone's signal on this issue, so I thought it would be nice to collaborate instead of compete, since that's part of what we are all proselytizing with these books.So this episode's guest is Anand Giridharadas, the author of The Persuaders – a book about activists, politicians, educators, and everyday citizens who are on the ground working to change minds, bridge divisions, and fight for democracy.- How Minds Change- David McRaney's Twitter- YANSS Twitter- Show Notes- NewsletterAnand's TwitterThe Persuaders
This week we talk about minds and how you change them. Specifically, we talk about the introduction to David McRaney's 2022 book How Minds Change (https://www.davidmcraney.com/howmindschangehome). Things that bring us joy this week: Blossom (https://www.merriam-webster.com/games/blossom-word-game) Enchiladas - Recipie from Sauver (https://www.saveur.com/article/Recipes/Tex-Mex-Cheese-Enchiladas/) Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind (https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind)
This is the second episode in a three-part series about how to have difficult conversations with people who see the world differently, how to have better debates about contentious issues, and how to ethically and scientifically persuade one another about things that matter – in short, this is a three-part series about How Minds Change (which is also the title of my new book).There seems to be a movement afoot, a new wave of nonfiction about how to reduce all this argumentative madness and epistemic chaos. I want to boost everyone's signal on this issue, so I thought it would be nice to collaborate instead of compete, since that's part of what we are all proselytizing with these books.So this episode's guest is Bo Seo, the author of Good Arguments – a book about how he became a world debate champion in which he not only teaches us how to apply what he has learned to everyday life but imagines communities built around, not despite, constant arguing and disagreement.Seo says that a political life without constant disagreement would be impoverished. As he puts it, quote, "Nations are, at their best, evolving arguments. As he writes, “In a liberal democracy, good arguments are not what societies should do but also what they should be.” See believes that on well curated, well moderated platforms, ones that value good faith interactions, arguing and disagreement would flip from being catalysts for polarization to the very engine of depolarization and change. In the interview, he not only tells us how to defend ourselves against bad arguments, but explains how in his mind a great democracy isn't a place where everyone agrees and sees eye-to-eye, but one where we work to have better quality disagreements.- Bo Seo's Website: www.helloboseo.com- How Minds Change: www.davidmcraney.com/howmindschangehome- David McRaney's Twitter: https://twitter.com/davidmcraney- YANSS Twitter: https://twitter.com/notsmartblog- Show Notes: www.youarenotsosmart.com- Newsletter: https://davidmcraney.substack.com
This is the first episode in a three-part series about how to have difficult conversations with people who see the world differently, how to have better debates about contentious issues, and how to ethically and scientifically persuade one another about things that matter – in short, this is a three-part series about How Minds Change (which is also the title of my new book).There seems to be a movement afoot, a new wave of nonfiction about how to reduce all this argumentative madness and epistemic chaos. I want to boost everyone's signal on this issue, so I thought it would be nice to collaborate instead of compete, since that's part of what we are all proselytizing with these books.So this episode's guest is Mónica Guzmán, the author of I Never Thought of It That Way – a book with very practical advice on how to have productive conversations in a polarized political environment via authentic curiosity about where people's opinions, attitudes, and values come from. In short, it's about how to reduce polarization and learn from those with whom we disagree by establishing the sort of dynamic in which they will eagerly learn from us as well.- How Minds Change: www.davidmcraney.com/howmindschangehome- Show Notes: www.youarenotsosmart.com- Newsletter: https://davidmcraney.substack.com- David McRaney's Twitter: https://twitter.com/davidmcraney- YANSS Twitter: https://twitter.com/notsmartblog- Mónica Guzmán's Website: https://www.moniguzman.com- Mónica Guzmán's Twitter: https://twitter.com/moniguzman- I Never Thought of it That Way: https://www.moniguzman.com/book- Braver Angels: https://braverangels.org- My Article on Intellectual Humility: https://bigthink.com/the-well/change-your-mind-intellectual-humility/
Another year in the books! I don't think I ever really mastered writing the year as "2022," and now I have to write "2023." I'll figure it out one of these days.But another year meant another year of Opinion Science! This year saw even more new listeners, amazing guests, and an ambitious series of episodes over the summer. Your support has meant a lot.So even though I'm (again) a week or so behind on this, I wanted put together another "best of" episode, featuring notable moments from the podcast in 2022. As I say every year, it's not truly a “best of” per se because I really am attached to every episode. Instead, I've chosen some clips that highlight the kind of show this is, including some of the things that made this year especially special.If you're new to the show, this is a great place to start! And if you've been listening since the beginning, join me on some fun memories from this year.-AndyFeatured 2022 episodes:Episode 54: Influence is Your Superpower with Zoe ChanceEpisode 57: Media, Norms, & Social Change with Sohad MurrarEpisode 58: How Minds Change with David McRaney (ft. Adam Mastroianni)Episode 63: Why We Need Polls with G. Elliott MorrisEpisode 64: Saving Democracy with Robb WillerEpisode 68: Intellectual Humility with Tenelle PorterSciComm Summer #1: Joss Fong – Producing Science VideosSciComm Summer #2: Meryl Horn – Producing “Science Vs”For a transcript of this episode, visit this episode's page at: http://opinionsciencepodcast.com/episodes/Learn more about Opinion Science at http://opinionsciencepodcast.com/ and follow @OpinionSciPod on Twitter.
The Brainy Business | Understanding the Psychology of Why People Buy | Behavioral Economics
In today's conversation, I am joined by Dr. Dolly Chugh. Dolly is a social psychologist and management professor at the New York University Stern School of Business where she teaches MBA courses in leadership and management. Dolly is well-known for her teaching and facilitation skills. She was one of six professors chosen from thousands at New York University to receive the Distinguished Teaching Award in 2020 and one of five to receive the Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Faculty Award in 2013. Dolly's research focuses on “bounded ethicality,” which she describes as the “psychology of good people.” Her work has been published in leading psychology, economics, and management journals, and cited by many books and authors. Prior to becoming an academic, Dolly worked at Morgan Stanley, Merrill Lynch, Sibson and Company, Scholastic, and Time Inc. Dolly attended Cornell University where she majored in psychology and economics for her undergraduate degree and Harvard University for her MBA and Ph.D. As you will hear in the episode, this is a really personal one for me that hits home for a reason that I haven't really talked about much on the show. Hopefully, it is well received and you understand why I brought it up today, and why I intend to talk about it more in the future. Show Notes: [00:43] In today's conversation, I am joined by Dr. Dolly Chug. Dolly is a social psychologist and management professor at the New York University Stern School of Business where she teaches MBA courses in leadership and management. [02:54] This is a really personal one for me that hits home for a reason that I haven't really talked about much on the show. [04:35] Dolly shares about herself, her background, and her work. She is currently a professor. Her research focuses on the psychology of good people. [06:36] People didn't understand how her double majors went together but they were both about human behavior. [09:19] She shares how her book, A More Just Future came about. [12:20] After reading the Little House on the Prairie series with her children, on a family trip to visit the area she had many realizations about the history and time period. She pushed it aside at the time, but it kept coming up down the road. [13:45] She decided she wanted to better understand our relationship with our past as well as our emotional relationship with our country. She wanted to leverage what social psychologists and other social scientists know to offer us tools so we just don't push them aside. [16:09] We see the past as farther away and blurrier than the future. [17:12] Understanding today requires me to understand yesterday. [19:44] When we are in a hot emotional state we are more action-oriented. [21:40] Our minds unconsciously invest in the status quo even when it doesn't benefit us. It protects the default. [23:08] On almost every meaningful outcome that you can think of there is a racial disparity in the United States. [24:22] Our brains will justify the systems around us. That is the system justification theory or what she calls the “Good Guys Win Mindset.” It leads us to accept things as they are. [26:23] The cognitive task of accepting that two contradictory statements can both be true is incredibly important. [28:13] The paradox mindset is a really powerful tool that we can use when we are trying to understand all these contradictions in our past and present. [29:27] What is the one little thing you can do right now that might be the spark of something new and being able to make that change? [30:07] The book was a very deep personal journey for Melina. She shares more about her journey (and that of her family) being Alaska Native (Tlingit and Tsimshian). [32:19] The past isn't that far away. [33:18] There are a lot of ways that the past spills into the present through our word, our beliefs, and our trauma. [35:52] Melina shares how important preserving her native culture is for her and what she is doing with her son to preserve their culture. [37:25] Dolly's book has helped Melina to take steps forward in preserving the culture instead of letting it simmer in her own mind. [39:21] We all have some family history that we either cherish, don't know, or are embarrassed by. Understanding how that lives in the present is very interesting and we absolutely bring that to work with us. [42:02] Check out Dolly's newsletter, Dear Good People. [43:24] Melina's closing thoughts Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. If you like what you heard, please leave a review on iTunes and share what you liked about the show. I hope you love everything recommended via The Brainy Business! Everything was independently reviewed and selected by me, Melina Palmer. So you know, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That means if you decide to shop from the links on this page (via Amazon or others), The Brainy Business may collect a share of sales or other compensation. Let's connect: Melina@TheBrainyBusiness.com The Brainy Business® on Facebook The Brainy Business on Twitter The Brainy Business on Instagram The Brainy Business on LinkedIn Melina on LinkedIn The Brainy Business on Youtube Join the BE Thoughtful Revolution – our free behavioral economics community, and keep the conversation going! Learn and Support The Brainy Business: Check out and get your copies of Melina's Books. Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode: A More Just Future, by Dolly Chugh Both/And Thinking, by Wendy Smith & Marianne Lewis How to Change, by Katy Milkman The Person You Mean To Be, by Dolly Chugh How Minds Change, by David McRaney Connect with Dolly: Dolly's Newsletter Dolly on LinkedIn Dolly on Twitter Top Recommended Next Episode: Past, Present, and Future Biases (ep 246) Already Heard That One? Try These: How To Change, an interview Dr. Katy Milkman (ep 151) Only 1% of People Blow the Whistle at Work—How to Fix That, with Nuala Walsh (ep 153) Time Discounting (ep 51) Status Quo Bias (ep 142) The Power of Us with Dr. Dominic Packer (ep 178) The Power of Story, an Interview with Dr. Michelle Auerbach (ep 145) Confirmation Bias (ep 102) Vulnerability Loops (ep 229) How Minds Change with David McRaney (ep 210) Focusing Illusion (ep 89) Other Important Links: Brainy Bites - Melina's LinkedIn Newsletter Ketchikan: Our Native Legacy
Today we welcome David McRaney. He is a science journalist fascinated with brains, minds, and culture. In 2012, he created the podcast You Are Not So Smart based on his 2009 internationally bestselling book of the same name and its follow-up, You Are Now Less Dumb. David is also an editor, photographer, voiceover artist, television host, journalism teacher, lecturer, and tornado survivor. His most recent book is called How Minds Change.In this episode, I talk to David McRaney about the science of belief and persuasion. In this day and age of online tribes and echo chambers, changing people's opinions seems like an impossible task. Instead of arguing over facts, David encourages us to use empathy to understand why we disagree. He explains Piaget's framework behind knowledge building and shares the use of technique rebuttal for sincere conversations.Website: www.davidmcraney.comTwitter: @davidmcraney Topics02:12 David's interest in how minds change08:41 Piaget's Genetic Epistemology13:49 Focus on motivations, not conclusions16:35 Why do people see the viral 2015 dress differently? 23:44 How we produce and evaluate arguments28:36 We're living in a post trust world32:32 How to change minds in large groups44:33 Cults and conspiratorial communities52:57 Technique rebuttal
In this episode we explore what narcissism is (and what is most-definitely is not). There is a form of narcissism which has been, up until now, confused with psychopathy. But a new paper, the result of years of experiments, suggests narcissists are not psychopaths, and psychopaths are not narcissists.In the psychological literature, narcissism comes in two varieties. Grandiose narcissists tend to really, truly love themselves and heavily manipulate their social environment for personal gain. Vulnerable narcissists don't love themselves, not their true selves. Vulnerable narcissists love their image, and they are highly aware of the fact that it is an image and work very hard to prevent anyone else realizing that. According to the research explored in this episode, there is no such thing as a grandiose narcissist – that's just another way to describe a psychopath.Vulnerable narcissists like Don Draper in Mad Men cope with their insecurity by donning a mask, and then spend most of their lives protecting that mask out of a fear of what will happen if people ever see what it hides.How Minds Change: www.davidmcraney.com/howmindschangehomeShow Notes: www.youarenotsosmart.comNewsletter: https://davidmcraney.substack.comNarcissism through the lens of performative self-elevation
In the history of viral images, #TheDress has got to be in the top 10. This unassuming photo of a party dress kicked off a global debate when people realized they were seeing it completely differently. Is it black and blue, or white and gold? In today's episode, we'll talk to someone who was there when the photo was first taken, and the BuzzFeed writer whose post briefly broke the internet. Then we go down the optical rabbit hole with a neuroscientist who's been studying the The Dress for years. What does it reveal about the nature of truth? This podcast was written by Willa Paskin, who produces Decoder Ring with Katie Shepherd. This episode was edited by Andrew Adam Newman. Derek John is Slate's senior supervising producer of narrative podcasts. Merritt Jacob is senior technical director. We'll hear from Paul Jinks, Cates Holderness, Pascal Wallisch, and David McRaney author of the book How Minds Change. Here's the optical illusion of the strawberries mentioned in the episode and created by Professor Akiyoshi Kitaoka. If you haven't please yet, subscribe and rate our feed in Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. And even better, tell your friends. If you're a fan of the show, I'd love for you to sign up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get to listen to Decoder Ring — and every other Slate podcast — ad-free. Their support is also crucial to our work. So please go to Slate.com/decoderplus to join Slate Plus today. Check out Remote Works here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In the history of viral images, #TheDress has got to be in the top 10. This unassuming photo of a party dress kicked off a global debate when people realized they were seeing it completely differently. Is it black and blue, or white and gold? In today's episode, we'll talk to someone who was there when the photo was first taken, and the BuzzFeed writer whose post briefly broke the internet. Then we go down the optical rabbit hole with a neuroscientist who's been studying the The Dress for years. What does it reveal about the nature of truth? This podcast was written by Willa Paskin, who produces Decoder Ring with Katie Shepherd. This episode was edited by Andrew Adam Newman. Derek John is Slate's senior supervising producer of narrative podcasts. Merritt Jacob is senior technical director. We'll hear from Paul Jinks, Cates Holderness, Pascal Wallisch, and David McRaney author of the book How Minds Change. Here's the optical illusion of the strawberries mentioned in the episode and created by Professor Akiyoshi Kitaoka. If you haven't please yet, subscribe and rate our feed in Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. And even better, tell your friends. If you're a fan of the show, I'd love for you to sign up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get to listen to Decoder Ring — and every other Slate podcast — ad-free. Their support is also crucial to our work. So please go to Slate.com/decoderplus to join Slate Plus today. Check out Remote Works here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In the history of viral images, #TheDress has got to be in the top 10. This unassuming photo of a party dress kicked off a global debate when people realized they were seeing it completely differently. Is it black and blue, or white and gold? In today's episode, we'll talk to someone who was there when the photo was first taken, and the BuzzFeed writer whose post briefly broke the internet. Then we go down the optical rabbit hole with a neuroscientist who's been studying the The Dress for years. What does it reveal about the nature of truth? This podcast was written by Willa Paskin, who produces Decoder Ring with Katie Shepherd. This episode was edited by Andrew Adam Newman. Derek John is Slate's senior supervising producer of narrative podcasts. Merritt Jacob is senior technical director. We'll hear from Paul Jinks, Cates Holderness, Pascal Wallisch, and David McRaney author of the book How Minds Change. Here's the optical illusion of the strawberries mentioned in the episode and created by Professor Akiyoshi Kitaoka. If you haven't please yet, subscribe and rate our feed in Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. And even better, tell your friends. If you're a fan of the show, I'd love for you to sign up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get to listen to Decoder Ring — and every other Slate podcast — ad-free. Their support is also crucial to our work. So please go to Slate.com/decoderplus to join Slate Plus today. Check out Remote Works here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In the history of viral images, #TheDress has got to be in the top 10. This unassuming photo of a party dress kicked off a global debate when people realized they were seeing it completely differently. Is it black and blue, or white and gold? In today's episode, we'll talk to someone who was there when the photo was first taken, and the BuzzFeed writer whose post briefly broke the internet. Then we go down the optical rabbit hole with a neuroscientist who's been studying the The Dress for years. What does it reveal about the nature of truth? This podcast was written by Willa Paskin, who produces Decoder Ring with Katie Shepherd. This episode was edited by Andrew Adam Newman. Derek John is Slate's senior supervising producer of narrative podcasts. Merritt Jacob is senior technical director. We'll hear from Paul Jinks, Cates Holderness, Pascal Wallisch, and David McRaney author of the book How Minds Change. Here's the optical illusion of the strawberries mentioned in the episode and created by Professor Akiyoshi Kitaoka. If you haven't please yet, subscribe and rate our feed in Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. And even better, tell your friends. If you're a fan of the show, I'd love for you to sign up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get to listen to Decoder Ring — and every other Slate podcast — ad-free. Their support is also crucial to our work. So please go to Slate.com/decoderplus to join Slate Plus today. Check out Remote Works here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In the history of viral images, #TheDress has got to be in the top 10. This unassuming photo of a party dress kicked off a global debate when people realized they were seeing it completely differently. Is it black and blue, or white and gold? In today's episode, we'll talk to someone who was there when the photo was first taken, and the BuzzFeed writer whose post briefly broke the internet. Then we go down the optical rabbit hole with a neuroscientist who's been studying the The Dress for years. What does it reveal about the nature of truth? This podcast was written by Willa Paskin, who produces Decoder Ring with Katie Shepherd. This episode was edited by Andrew Adam Newman. Derek John is Slate's senior supervising producer of narrative podcasts. Merritt Jacob is senior technical director. We'll hear from Paul Jinks, Cates Holderness, Pascal Wallisch, and David McRaney author of the book How Minds Change. Here's the optical illusion of the strawberries mentioned in the episode and created by Professor Akiyoshi Kitaoka. If you haven't please yet, subscribe and rate our feed in Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. And even better, tell your friends. If you're a fan of the show, I'd love for you to sign up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get to listen to Decoder Ring — and every other Slate podcast — ad-free. Their support is also crucial to our work. So please go to Slate.com/decoderplus to join Slate Plus today. Check out Remote Works here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Here's a special bonus episode featuring my recent conversation with Tim Harford, author, economic journalist, and host of the Cautionary Tales podcast. We discussed a story from my new book, How Minds Change, about a conspiracy theorist who was certain 9/11 was an inside job until he actually visited Ground Zero to meet architects, engineers and the relatives of the dead. Tim and I reflect on what he can teach us about those who hold strong beliefs even in the face of damning, contrary evidence and why persuasion, especially if attempted poorly, isn't always the right answer. • Hear more from Cautionary Tales at https://podcasts.pushkin.fm/ctsmart• How Minds Change: https://www.davidmcraney.com/howmindschangehome
David McRaney is a science journalist, & psychology nerd. In 2009 he started a blog called “You're not So smart” that went on to become an internationally best-selling book and is also the title of the popular podcast he hosts today. He is the author of several books including the most recent “How Minds Change” a fascinating exploration of the science of beliefs, opinions, and persuasion. In this episode, we speak about what beliefs are and how they are created, objective reality, intellectual humility, what not to do when trying to change someone's mind and why we need to argue.
I recently sat down for a live event and Q&A with the great Annie Duke to discuss her new book, Quit: The power of knowing when to walk away. This episode is the audio from that event. Quit is all about how to develop a very particular skill: how to train your brain to make it easier to know which goals and plans are worth sticking to and which are not. - Toronto Live Event: https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/how-minds-change-a-conversation-lab-with-david-mcraney-misha-glouberman-tickets-410047431907- How Minds Change: www.davidmcraney.com/howmindschangehome- Show Notes: www.youarenotsosmart.com- Newsletter: https://davidmcraney.substack.com- Annie Duke's Twitter: https://twitter.com/AnnieDuke
We humans like to be right about things. As you'll hear in this episode, our self-image and our perception of being trustworthy to others can feel threatened when our thinking is questioned. After all, within our own brains, our thought processes make perfect sense—at least to us—so how could we be wrong? And, outside of our own brains, we've all had the painful experience of failing to sway someone's opinion even when the facts and data are clearly on our side. Why are minds so difficult to change? What are the cognitive biases that may get in the way of us thinking something through? And how can we override these tendencies to make better decisions and live fuller lives? Fortunately, I know just the guy to ask! David McRaney (https://www.davidmcraney.com/) a journalist, a self-described psychology nerd, and a self-delusion expert. He has written many books describing how our brains work (and how they don't) including his bestselling book with a super cheeky title “You Are Not So Smart.” His most recent book, “How Minds Change” is a very important contribution to psychology and I am not alone in my high-regard for David. Publisher's Weekly writes, “McRaney makes a convincing case . . . and backs it up with what science has to say about ‘replac[ing] old ignorance with new wisdom.'” So, listen in has David and I talk about how minds change. Book Link: https://tinyurl.com/2p99retk
To the Founding Fathers it was free libraries. To the 19th century rationalist philosophers it was a system of public schools. Today it's access to the internet. Since its beginnings, Americans have believed that if facts and information were available to all, a democratic utopia would prevail. But missing from these well-intentioned efforts, says author and journalist David McRaney, is the awareness that people's opinions are unrelated to their knowledge and intelligence. In fact, he explains, the better educated we become, the better we are at rationalizing what we already believe. Listen as the author of How Minds Change speaks with EconTalk host Russ Roberts about why it's so hard to change someone's mind, the best way to make it happen (if you absolutely must), and why teens are hard-wired not to take good advice from older people even if they are actually wiser.
The Meaning Movement: Helping You Find Your Calling, Create Your Life's Work, and Make Career Change
David McRaney is a science journalist who is fascinated with brains, minds, and culture. He's the creator of the blog, book, and podcast You Are Not So Smart — which focuses on understanding self-delusion and motivated reasoning. His second book, You Are Now Less Dumb, was released in 2013, and his third book, How Minds Change just came out this year I had so much fun with David. I love his new book and had a great time exploring the depths of his career and his expertise of how and why people change what they believe. In this episode you'll learn: -What David does -How David found purpose -How David transitioned from working as a journalist to a creating a successful blog -How being vulnerable, open and transparent can help your growth -David's process for writing his books -How our brains make sense of the world -The difference between a debate and conversation -Why it's ok to feel different about your previous work and opinions Show notes here: https://themeaningmovement.com/david
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In today's conversation, I am joined by Kwame Christian, who I believe is our first 3-peat guest! (Though Dr. Marco Palma from the Human Behavior Lab at Texas A&M has technically been on the show three times, once was part of a panel when we launched the certificate program so I am going to say that Kwame is in a class all his own (for so many reasons)). Kwame was also my first guest on the first-ever live show of The Brainy Business on Fireside earlier this week. If you haven't heard of Fireside yet or checked out the show there, and if you don't yet have enough Kwame (I know I never will!) check out the replay within these show notes. Fireside is a new platform co-founded by Mark Cuban where I was recently invited to do a show. It lets the audience come up on stage to participate and ask questions. It is really cool and I'm going to be testing it out for a bit to see if this is a good permanent addition to the content you get from The Brainy Business. So if you want to stay around and have a chance to come behind the scenes and be part of the show, please come join us there. And of course, listen in on this episode as Kwame and I talk all about his new book, How to Have Difficult Conversations about Race. Show Notes: [00:40] In today's conversation, I am joined by Kwame Christian, who I believe is the first guest to be here on the show three times AND my first ever guest on the live show on Fireside. [01:42] Fireside is a new platform co-founded by Mark Cuban where I was recently invited to do a show. It lets the audience come up on stage to participate and ask questions. [03:20] Today we are talking all about Kwame's new book, How to Have Difficult Conversations about Race, which officially comes out on September 13th. [05:18] Kwame shares about himself and his background. Kwame is an attorney, does work in negotiation, and has a background in psychology. [07:27] Kwame shares his journey in writing his new book. He wants to be where the toughest conversations are. [08:47] He is not here to teach people how to think about race. He is here to offer guidance on how to talk about race. [11:11] We are all biased in different types of ways and we need to think more broadly about bias. People need to have a more empowered stance when it comes to bias. [12:32] Bias is real and it is going to play a role so why don't we take the time to calibrate and manage the role of bias in our favor? It is a strategic tool we can leverage to our advantage. [14:22] We are biased against bias. [15:18] Let's live with the fact that we have biases and learn to manage them. [17:22] If we are not making any mistakes that might be an indication of us not interacting with people that see the world differently than us. [18:11] We have to be outcome-oriented in our conversations. We need to know our goal and then reverse engineer a strategy for that goal. [20:04] We need to recognize that we need to be aware of the biases but not fear them. Biases make us human. [23:07] Kwame shares a true story from his book about a man named Daryl that tries to convert KKK members. He has converted over 200 members. [25:51] We have more persuasive power than we realize. [28:27] In these conversations we are not going to try to win. [30:02] His new book can be used by anybody that has any goal in a difficult conversation. [31:54] Anything that does not violate a physical law is negotiable. We can negotiate anything, we just need the right mindset. [34:05] Conflict is an opportunity. These difficult conversations provide us with opportunities. We just need to be curious and listen. [36:26] Melina shares her closing thoughts. [37:29] Not every battle is yours to fight. Choose where you can have or want impact and go full force, one strategic decision at a time. Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Android. 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Get the Books Mentioned on (or related to) this Episode: Finding Confidence in Conflict, by Kwame Christian How to Have Difficult Conversations About Race, by Kwame Christian What Your Employees Need and Can't Tell You, by Melina Palmer How Minds Change, by David McRaney What Your Customer Wants and Can't Tell You, by Melina Palmer Connect with Kwame: American Negotiation Institute website Kwame on Twitter Kwame on LinkedIn Top Recommended Next Episode: Introducing Kwame Christian and How to Use the Compassionate Curiosity Framework for Difficult Conversations (episode 107) Already Heard That One? 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211. In How to Change Minds, host Will Moore sits down with David McRaney, to discuss the intricacies of our minds. David McRaney breaks down why we are biologically programmed to disagree with others so strongly when our opinions differ. Then David shares the #1 way to get people to come around to your way of thinking. This is a heady episode with lots of tactical information on the art of disagreement. What's your core score? Take the FREE Life Evaluator Quiz to see where you currently stand in your five cores: www.mooremomentum.com/free-li... Like and Subscribe! Are you ready to fire on all cylinders? If so, let's go! MORE ABOUT GAMIFY YOUR HABITS & WILL MOORE: My #1 mission in life is to help you become the best version of YOURself so you can, in turn, pay it forward to make the world the best version of ITself. WHAT'S YOUR CORE SCORE? Take the FREE Life Evaluator Quiz to see where you currently stand in your five cores: https://www.mooremomentum.com/free-life-evaluation Like and Subscribe! FIND ME ON FACEBOOK, IG or TWITTER: @mooremomentum JOIN MY FACEBOOK GROUP: 5 Core Life: Become an Entrepreneur in the Five Crucial Areas of Your Life ⬇️ https://www.facebook.com/groups/buildamilliondollarbiz/ SIGN UP FOR OUR WEEKLY BLOG AS WELL! www.mooremomentum.com/blog David McRaney Bio: David McRaney is a science journalist fascinated with brains, minds, and culture. He's the author of You Are Not So Smart, You Are Now Less Dumb, and How Minds Change. David also makes the podcast You Are Not So Smart. Learn more at: https://www.davidmcraney.com/howmindschangehome + https://www.youarenotsosmart.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/5corelife/message
David McRaney is a science journalist, host of the "You Are Not So Smart" podcast, and author of several books, including his latest, "How Minds Change."GET THE BOOK! https://amzn.to/3c1KH90VIDEO of this interview: https://youtu.be/I4k34HV-bNs
WWhen we talk about conspiracy theories we tend to focus on what people believe instead of why, and, more importantly, why they believe those things and not other things. In this episode, we sit down with two psychologists working to change that, and in addition, change the term itself from conspiracy theory to conspiracy narrative, which more accurately describes what makes any one conspiracy appealing enough to form a community around it and in rare cases result in collective action. How Minds Change: www.davidmcraney.com/howmindschangehome Show Notes: www.youarenotsosmart.com Newsletter: https://davidmcraney.substack.com Patreon: http://patreon.com/youarenotsosmartSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Have you ever felt frustrated by the fact that people tend to stick to their guns, even when presented with indisputable evidence that their beliefs are completely unfounded or plain wrong? This is the question that intrigued my guest, David McCraney, a science journalist fascinated with brains, minds, and culture. It led him on an investigative journey that resulted in a new book, How Minds Change. In this episode, David and I do a deep dive into the science of practices and methodologies that can lead to significant changes in how people think, feel and act at an individual and a collective level. To join CultureBrained®, go to tiny.one/culturebrained
August 01, 2022 Discussion on the book "How Minds Change," My First Stand-up Comedy Open Mic by Dr. Farid Holakouee
Click for full show notes, exercises, and parenting scripts from this episodeIf you've ever tried to change your teen's mind, you know that it's nearly impossible! No matter how much you try to persuade them to take harder classes, hang out with different friends or pick more lucrative extracurriculars…they tend to stick stubbornly to their own choices. It can start to feel like you're going crazy, spending hours of your life begging teens to change their minds–especially when it's over something serious like drug use or toxic relationships.This disconnect applies not only in our homes, but our society at large. Our world is more divided than ever, and it seems like there's no way to have productive conversations about what really matters. Online forums and social media have contributed immensely to this polarization, by allowing us to find people who agree with us wholeheartedly, never challenging our opinions or encouraging us to think critically. In some cases, this can lead people down rabbit holes into conspiracy theories or even cults–and it's not easy to change their minds and bring them back!So how can we start up productive discourse and change people's minds for the better? We're talking to David McRaney to find out. David is a science journalist and author of the popular blog, You Are Not So Smart, which ran for years before becoming a successful podcast and bestselling book. Today, he's here to talk about his latest book, How Minds Change: The Science of Belief, Opinion and Persuasion, to help us understand the fascinating psychological process of forming and changing opinions.In our interview, we're discussing why it's so incredibly difficult to change our teens' minds about anything! Plus, David explains why we need to consider teens' perspectives before making decisions, and breaks down the importance of peer groups in the persuasion process...Click for full show notes, exercises, and parenting scripts from this episode
And how to listen to people you disagree with, so they'll listen to you.It feels like we're more stubborn than ever before. More likely to dig in our heels, refuse to listen to facts and in general hold tight to our positions no matter what. But is that true, or is that just a function of the new ways of communication that we're still learning to use?Regardless, if we can't figure out how to find solutions together, we may not have the time to figure it out. So the next time you're inclined to blow up at someone for believing in something dumb, or refusing to listen to reason, ask yourself if there's a better way to convince them.GUEST: David McRaney, author of How Minds Change
Meet David McRaney. A best selling author and journalist that spent over six years studying the research of Psychologists and Neuroscientists to understand how minds are made, and how minds are changed. In this podcast, we discuss David's study of conspiracy theorists, cults, political activists and even Westboro Baptist Church picketers. Before publication of David's most recent book 'How Minds Change,' he became very well-known for his blog, podcast, and book titled 'You Are Not So Smart.' ___MORE FROM DAVID MCRANEYhttps://www.davidmcraney.com/Twitter: @DavidMcRaneyHow Minds Change: http://bit.ly/3rwtxFO Podcast: http://YouAreNotSoSmart.com ____MORE FROM DAVID COLAROSSI@Pop Psych@Shrink Wrappedhttps://linktr.ee/DavidColarossiPhD____LEGALThis video is not affiliated in any way with my employer or colleagues/coworkers. The opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not represent the opinions of my employer.
In this episode we sit down with Jennifer Shahade, a two-time U.S. Women's Chess Champion, author, speaker, and professional poker player whose new book, Chess Queens, is the true story of the greatest female players of all time interwoven with her own experiences as a chess champion. How Minds Change: www.davidmcraney.com/howmindschangehome Contest: https://sites.prh.com/hmc-giveaway Show Notes: www.youarenotsosmart.com Newsletter: https://davidmcraney.substack.com Jennifer Shahade's Website: https://jennifershahade.com Patreon: http://patreon.com/youarenotsosmart See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Host Michael Taft speaks with author, science journalist, and psychology nerd David McRaney about what sorts of conversations actually cause human beings to change their minds; the fascinating on-the-ground research of groups like Street Epistemology and Deep Canvassers, the stories of people deciding to leave insular in-groups such as the Westboro Baptist church and 9-11 Truthers, the deep neuroscience behind "The Dress" phenomenon, the role of storytelling in human interactions, and much more. David McRaney currently hosts a bi-weekly, top-100 podcast about human judgment and decision-making, and recently created a documentary about IQ and genius and a television show about how to better predict the impact of technological disruption. His most recent book is How Minds Change, about the science, and the experience, of transformation.https://www.davidmcraney.com/You can support the creation of future episodes of this podcast by contributing through Patreon.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
I often say that the second best thing to happen to me was deciding to become a Christian. And the first best thing was deciding not to be a Christian. I didn’t exactly grow up Christian, but I became a believer around age 12. I went to Christian school. Overall I took my religious beliefs really seriously. And to me, they felt like my own. A core part of my identity as a Christian was that I was explicit about my beliefs. I didn’t inherit them from my parents, nor did they feel like I was required to put them on for public appearances, like some sort of mandatory uniform.Since my school was religious, Christian doctrine was taught in the classroom. These students were all more or less believers as well, even if they were the mandatory uniform kind. We even had a teacher who taught us that evolution was not “just a theory” as one sometimes hears the Creationist argument framed, but a totally ludicrous idea that makes little rational sense when subjected to true unindoctrinated scrutiny.Then in college, I started to modify some beliefs, all of which traditionally are not held by Christians, but all of which I felt were compatible with a biblical world view. The first was evolution. This one was easy. Even if you believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible, if God hasn’t created the sun in the moon yet, then who’s to say that a day is only 24 hours long? These seven days of creation in Genesis could have taken place over billions of years, guided by the hand of God. So evolution was fairly easy to add into my worldview. The second was determinism. This one is also pretty easily squared with Christianity, maybe even a more conservative interpretation of the Bible. In theology, the debate is often presented as Calvinism versus Arminianism. Calvinists believe in predestination. God, being all-knowing, knows ahead of time, who is going to heaven and who isn’t. He’s God. He can’t not know. The Arminianists, by contrast, believe in free will. God, being all loving, can’t create some people just to send them to hell and therefore shields his otherwise all-knowingness from whether or not a person’s heart will turn toward him. Arminianism sounds nice, but… come on. Calvinism is clearly the more defensible theological position. So when I came to believe that free will is an illusion, it didn’t pose any issue to my faith.The third and most difficult to square was physicalism. This is the philosophical position that all physical events have physical causes. In other words, there’s nothing in the physical universe that needs some outside force to explain it. In particular, there is no immaterial soul that explains the essence of human behavior.Whenever I told Christians about this belief, they were usually taken aback. But what about resurrection? How would that work without an immaterial soul — if we were all just atoms, cells, and chemistry? To which I would usually reply that the logistics of resurrection were indeed mysterious under physicalist assumptions, but it was no less mysterious than dualistic assumptions. Just less familiar. For instance, how does an immaterial soul for which there is no evidence of interaction with the human brain and is not necessary for a complete explanation of human behavior, contain the essence of a person in any meaningful way? How for that matter would such a soul migrate from our own physical universe into some alternate universe of heaven, or hell, while still retaining some resemblance to the essence of its original host? It may have been a nonstandard belief, but I didn’t view it as one that created new problems, just reframed old ones.And so for a while, I held onto these three additional beliefs, as well as my belief in the core tenets of biblical Christianity about Jesus being our savior. The change in beliefs themselves was not enough for me to disregard Christianity as a whole. There was another piece that was necessary. I’d always been a part of Christian groups, and throughout high school that association was pretty strong. But in college, the Christian group I joined never quite seemed to click for me. I spent a lot of time with the people in the group. I even lived on an apartment floor where everyone was a member of this group, but I always felt like I was on the outside. In fact, on a one on one level, I felt much more connected to my friends who weren’t believers.The main exception was my girlfriend at the time who was herself close to everyone in that inner circle. Then one day she broke up with me. The reason cited was insufficient Jesus-mindedness, which really offended me at the time, because I considered myself very Jesus-minded. But it was my first major breakup and it hit me really hard. I found it difficult to let go. On two separate occasions I asked her to take me back (and I doubt her version of the story employs the verb ‘ask’ in quite the same manner). But eventually it became clear we were not getting back together. That was January 21st, 2013. I remember that date because it was the day I decided I would no longer be a Christian.I officially disbelieved in the Jesus narrative that I’d held as a defining core belief for so many years. At the time I figured that even if I was going to be a Christian in the long run, I’d be a more effective one knowing what it was truly like to live life as an unbeliever. Either way, it was time to take these new philosophical perspectives I had adopted as my central beliefs, rather than the teachings of the Bible.The thing that stands out to me about that story looking back was that it wasn’t the intellectual change that ultimately flipped my religious belief. It was the social change. Most people I grew up with who remained Christian — their friends are all Christian, their parents and siblings are Christian. There’s a huge social cost to altering that belief. But after my breakup, I found myself no longer having to face that social cost. I had removed the social barriers, and I could make the decision based on my own intellectual conclusions. From this experience, I learned that, in general, people don’t form their beliefs for intellectual reasons. They form them for social reasons. And that is one of the central themes of the latest book from my guest today, David McRaney. It is called How Minds Change. In it, David looks at the cutting scientific edge in the field of psychology as it relates to belief change. He follows some stories of belief change much more dramatic than my own. For example, ex members of the Westboro Baptist church and formerly prominent conspiracy theorists. The book was a ton of fun to read and I highly recommend checking it out. Even as someone who reads quite a bit of non-fiction on cognitive and social psychology, there was a lot in there that I hadn’t encountered before and a handful of reframings which really put old subjects into new light for me. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit codykommers.substack.com/subscribe
In a time when people are more dug in than ever on partisan beliefs about the world, is it ever possible to change anybody's mind? Science journalist David McRaney, author of the new book How Minds Change, says yes. He and Virginia investigate the psychology of how we come by our beliefs — and the tried-and-true methods social scientists recommend using to change peoples' minds — even on hot-button issues.Listen to David's podcast with ex-Westboro Baptist Church member Megan Phelps-Roper here.
S7E31: In this episode, meet kindergarten teacher Vera Ahiyya, Professor at Monroe Carell Jr. Children's Hospital at Vanderbilt and the Vanderbilt University Medical Center Jay Wellons, and journalist David McRaney. Listen in to hear the inspiring stories that led to the creation of their audiobooks. Enjoy! KINDergarten by Vera Ahiyya: https://www.penguinrandomhouseaudio.com/book/700463/kindergarten/ All That Moves Us by Jay Wellons: https://www.penguinrandomhouseaudio.com/book/673884/all-that-moves-us/ How Minds Change by David McRaney: https://www.penguinrandomhouseaudio.com/book/639563/how-minds-change/
New research suggests people on opposite sides of wedge issues want to listen to each other. We are each eager to hear differing opinions and understand opposing views, and when we do it can change our minds (at least a little), but only when we aren't triggered by the psychological phenomenon of reactance - one of several ideas we explore in this episode. How Minds Change: www.davidmcraney.com/howmindschangehome Newsletter: https://davidmcraney.substack.com/subscribe Show Notes: www.youarenotsosmart.com Michèle Belot on Twitter: http://twitter.com/belotmichele Patreon: http://patreon.com/youarenotsosmart See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
David McRaney breaks down why it's so difficult to change people's minds—and shares powerful strategies to get others to open their minds. — YOU'LL LEARN — 1) Why facts alone can't persuade others 2) One simple question to make you more persuasive 3) A step-by-step guide to changing even the most stubborn minds Subscribe or visit AwesomeAtYourJob.com/ep780 for clickable versions of the links below. — ABOUT DAVID — Science journalist, podcaster, and internationally bestselling author David McRaney is an expert in the psychology of reasoning, decision making, and self-delusion. His wildly popular blog became the international bestselling book You Are Not So Smart, revealing and celebrating our irrational and thoroughly human behavior. His second bestseller, You Are Now Less Dumb, gives readers a fighting chance at outsmarting their brains. His most recent book, How Minds Change, is a brain-bending and big-hearted investigation into the science of belief, opinion, and persuasion. David is an in-demand speaker whose work has been featured in The Atlantic and many others.He also created and hosted Exploring Genius: In-Depth Study of Brilliant Minds, an audio documentary for Himalaya, and is working on a TV series about how to better predict the psychological impact of technological disruption. • Book: How Minds Change: The Surprising Science of Belief, Opinion, and Persuasion • Website: YouAreNotSoSmart.com • Personal website: DavidMcRaney.com — RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THE SHOW — • Book: Cool It: The Skeptical Environmentalist's Guide to Global Warming by Bjorn Lomborg • Book: Incognito: The Secret Lives of the Brain by David Eagleman • Book: Joe by Larry Brown • Book: The Enigma of Reason by Hugo Mercier and Dan Sperber • Video: Why We Fight: Prelude to War See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this episode I read an excerpt from my new book How Minds Change, and Chris Clearfield interviews me about that very same book. Link to learn more about How Minds Change: www.davidmcraney.com/howmindschangehome Link to learn more about Deep Canvassing: www.newconvo.org Link to my new newsletter: davidmcraney.substack.com/subscribe Link to Chris Clearfield's handout: www.chrisclearfield.com/change Patreon: http://patreon.com/youarenotsosmart See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Many people believe that the Sandy Hook school shooting was staged by actors; that the Uvalde and Buffalo shooters were CIA assets; that vaccines contain tracking microchips. When a conspiracy theorist clings tightly to a belief that can be easily refuted with evidence, how can their minds be changed? How can someone help a friend or family member who doesn't even realize they are trapped in an echo chamber bubble – if they refuse to trust any evidence that proves them wrong? [Originally broadcast on June 8, 2022. Watch at https://go.drdrew.com/3NjKieI] David McRaney is a science journalist fascinated with brains, minds, and culture. In his new book "How Minds Change" he examines the psychology behind groupthink and how to guide the lost minds of loved ones to the truth. Learn more about David at https://DavidMcRaney.com "How Minds Change" by David McRaney is available for preorder now at https://www.amazon.com/How-Minds-Change-Surprising-Persuasion/dp/0593190297?tag=drdrewtv-20 SPONSORED BY • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Genucel uses clinical levels of botanical extracts in their cruelty-free, natural, made-in-the-USA line of products. Get 10% off with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation ( https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/FirstLadyOfLove). THE SHOW: For over 30 years, Dr. Drew Pinsky has taken calls from all corners of the globe, answering thousands of questions from teens and young adults. To millions, he is a beacon of truth, integrity, fairness, and common sense. Now, after decades of hosting Loveline and multiple hit TV shows – including Celebrity Rehab, Teen Mom OG, Lifechangers, and more – Dr. Drew is opening his phone lines to the world by streaming LIVE from his home studio in California. On Ask Dr. Drew, no question is too extreme or embarrassing because the Dr. has heard it all. Don't hold in your deepest, darkest questions any longer. Ask Dr. Drew and get real answers today. This show is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. All information exchanged during participation in this program, including interactions with DrDrew.com and any affiliated websites, are intended for educational and/or entertainment purposes only.
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Today I am very excited to introduce you to David McRaney, you may have heard of his first book You Are Not So Smart which is an international bestseller that is now available in 17 languages. He went on to create an awesome podcast of the same name and wrote a second book You Are Now Less Dumb. I highly recommend both of those and his podcast…and today we are talking about his new book, which just came out this week, called How Minds Change. As you will hear us talk about in the interview, this book is a fascinating journey we take along with David as he seeks to answer the question, "How do minds change?" The book is filled with interesting stories, lots of science, and fun anecdotes. I really enjoyed it and learned so much along the way, some of which you can hear about in today's episode. Join us to hear all about it! Show Notes: [00:43] Today I am very excited to introduce you to David McRaney. You may have heard of his first book You Are Not So Smart which is an international bestseller that is now available in 17 languages. He has a phenomenal podcast of the same name. [03:35] David shares about himself, his background, and how he found himself in this space. [05:30] When his second book came out, he started a podcast. His podcast has been the centerpiece of his world for the last twelve years. [07:55] David found something that he was interested in and wanted to find the answer to and he started to dig. [09:01] Don't jump into anything because you are trying to get rich quickly or because it is the hot new thing. [10:27] Don't follow the trends. Take the content you are skilled at and marry it to the thing you are obsessed with. Then plug away at it. [13:39] Everything that you do builds a skill set that you can laterally apply to other stuff later. [15:56] He writes his books by taking the reader along with him on the journey so they are able to learn with him. [16:40] David shares about the cookie segment that he had on his podcast for 100 episodes. He and Melina bond over baking and business. [19:41] He started the cookie segment because of several cookie studies he read and he knew there was a way to put it into his show. [22:26] He has gotten access to many different people in interviews for the book, podcast, and other work – how can you do the same? [24:27] You can email anyone and at least they will tell you no, but 75% of the time people say yes. [25:34] He explains in his emails that he is reaching out because he needs them and it would be a better show/book/project if they are part of it. [27:33] When people realize that you genuinely care and are interested they are more likely to say yes. [28:13] One of the biggest parts of How Minds Change is the exploration of “The Dress” and the neuroscience behind it. [30:37] Reaching out to his connections often led to other connections and allowed him to create even more connections. [33:14] He shares about “The Dress.” The dress is an image that appeared on the internet where people could not agree on what they saw. [35:23] With the dress, truly you saw it either one color (black and blue) or the other (white and gold) and you couldn't see it any other way. [37:32] When we see something that is overexposed we have no choice, the brain lowers the overexposure a bit to try to help us see what the image actually is. [39:43] Everything you experience is only happening in your brain. Every color you see is an illusion. Colors are things the brain makes. [42:23] There are two humongous populations of human beings that have had different life experiences, and because of those different life experiences they disambiguate an ambiguous image with a different kind of disambiguation than the other side and this leads to different conclusions. [43:57] When we try to prove that we are right, we miss out on getting to the deeper truth of the matter. [45:04] Pascal's team recreated the dress image using Crocs. They used Crocs and paired them with socks because it was an inanimate object with no default color. [46:49] It seems like older people see white socks version because they have more experience in their lives with socks that weren't colored. [48:28] David shares about his new book, How Minds Change. [51:41] His book is an explanation of how people do and do not change their minds, understanding the nature of the resistance, and discovering what you have to do to overcome that resistance. [54:54] Melina shares her closing thoughts. [55:55] One of my favorite things that David said in our conversation was that you need to "listen your way into changing somebody's mind" -- it isn't about force or proving someone that they are wrong, there is so much interesting work showcased in the book about how people can actually change their own minds when they are asked the right thoughtful questions and someone takes the time to listen. 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David McRaney is a writer and podcaster who has been covering important work in psychology for many years. Although he was a guest on Opinion Science a few months ago (Episode 58: How Minds Change with David McRaney), I also used the opportunity to ask him about his process for communicating psychological research to the public. So, the first 15 minutes of this episode is a repeat of his earlier appearance, but the rest of the interview hasn't been released until now.We talk about the challenges of knowing what your audience already knows, how to situate science reporting within accessible narratives, and the big question of why it's worth engaging with social science in a public setting at all.David's new book, How Minds Change, comes out tomorrow and is definitely worth picking up. You should also throw his podcast You Are Not So Smart on your podcast app now because it's great. This episode is part of a special podcast series on science communication. You can find more info and episodes here: http://opinionsciencepodcast.com/hot-scicomm-summer/Learn more about Opinion Science at http://opinionsciencepodcast.com/ and follow @OpinionSciPod on Twitter.
Terry Crews, actor, athlete, artist, President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho, star of Brooklyn Nine-Nine, host of America's Got Talent - that Terry Crews joins us to discuss his new book, Tough. In the book, Terry shares the raw story of his quest to find the true meaning of toughness and in so doing fundamentally change his concept of himself by uprooting a deeply ingrained toxic masculinity and finally confronting his insecurities, painful memories, and limiting beliefs. Link to preorder How Minds Change: https://www.davidmcraney.com/howmindschangehome Patreon: http://patreon.com/youarenotsosmart See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Link to preorder How Minds Change and get your preorder bonuses: https://www.davidmcraney.com/howmindschangehome Deliberation. Debate. Conversation. Though it can feel like that's what we are doing online as we trade arguments back and forth, most of the places where we currently gather make it much easier to produce arguments in isolation rather than evaluate them together in groups. The latest research suggests we will need much more of the latter if we hope to create a new, modern, functioning marketplace of ideas. In this episode, psychologist Tom Stafford takes us through his research into how to do just that. Show notes at: http://www.youarenotsosmart.com Patreon: http://patreon.com/youarenotsosmart See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Link to preorder How Minds Change: www.davidmcraney.com/howmindschangehome Our guest in this episode is A.J. Jacobs, the the four-time New York Times bestselling author of The Year of Living Biblically, Thanks A Thousand, It's All Relative, and The Know It All. His new book, The Puzzler, is a fun, weird, refreshingly scientific book all about the human brain's fascination with puzzles. Seriously, there's all sorts of explorations in the book about neural pathways, behavioral routines, how we learn, what gets us into loops, and - this is true - a few attempts to solve the puzzle of our very existence. Show Notes at: www.youarenotsosmart.com Patreon: www.patreon.com/youarenotsosmart Twitter: www.twitter.com/notsmartblog Patreon: http://patreon.com/youarenotsosmart See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In this episode, Justin chats with Author and fellow Podcast host David McRaney to discuss his new book "How Minds Change" and other current existential topics.
SUPPORT David McRaney, is a science journalist and creator of the blog, podcast and internationally best selling book, You Are Not So Smart. He cut your teeth as a newspaper reporter in the American South, and since then has been an editor, photographer, voiceover artist, television host, journalism teacher and tornado survivor. His produced The Green Couch Sessions, a TV show about the music of the Deep South. And recently wrote, produced, and recorded a six-hour audio documentary exploring the history of the idea and the word: genius. Before all that, he did a little construction, sold some leather coats, and owned two pet stores. David's recent work focuses on scientists who study the psychology of reasoning, decision-making, and self-delusion, His second book, You Are Now Less Dumb, was released in 2013, and his third book, How Minds Change comes out in 2022. How Minds Change explores why we believe, how to persuade, the limits of reasoning, the power of groupthink, and demonstrates the rare but transformative circumstances under which minds can change. He is known for your quick sense of humor, compassionate heart, keen curiosity and have been described as a self-delusion expert, and psychology nerd who's mind is expansive, surprising, and big-hearted. David believes in rising to the occasion of life with empathy, debunking personal delusions, and challenging your fellow humans to question their motives. CONTACT DAVID McRANEY Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/davidmcraney/?hl=en CONTACT RON CECIL Website: https://www.roncecil.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rcecil/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ron.cecil CONTACT DANIEL PENNER CLINE Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dpennercline/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1498866808 --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/cutting-for-sign/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/cutting-for-sign/support
In this episode we sit down with Megan Phelps-Roper, the author of Unfollow, a memoir of her time in Westboro Baptist Church, and an exploration what it took to convince her to leave. I interviewed Megan for my upcoming book, How Minds Change, and in this interview you will learn all about assimilation and accommodation, cult deprogrammers, and the steps Megan says one must take if they want to change someone's mind. - Vote for You Are Not So Smart at The Webby Awards! Link here: https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2021/podcasts/general-series/science-education - Show notes at www.youarenotsosmart.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.