Podcasts about spagyrics

Today I am joined by Phoenix from the "Phoenix Aurelius Research Academy (https://www.phoenixaurelius.org/). We discuss Practical Alchemy, Mercury, Spagyrics, the creation of Alchemical Gold and much more!

Israel "Raven" Ruiz was introduced to the ancient art of alchemy in Taos, New Mexico. In this episode he shares stories of animals showing up in front of him dying as if they were asking to be transmuted into spagyrics. He talks about how we can learn powerful life lessons from taking them in, how this differs from homeopathy, the difference between plant, mineral, and animal spagyrics, the lessons that we can learn from the red fox, the cicada, and the tarantula. This is a very esoteric show so if you enjoy that sort of thing you will love this conversation! Raven's spagyrics: https://materiaartium.com Raven's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/materia_artium_labs/ My website: www.matt-blackburn.com Mitolife products: www.mitolife.co Music by George Henner: https://georgehenner.bandcamp.com  

Heidi Wedd is a herbal educator and the author of "Wild Flower Walker: A Pilgrimage to Nature on the Bibbulmun Track." She is passionate about reawakening and deepening our innate connection with Nature, and facilitates circles in nature connection, herbal alchemy & plant spirit communication. Her history is deeply embedded with plants, herbalism, homeopathy and midwifery. In this interview Heidi shares her experiences of studying herbal medicine with Kim Dudley and Homeopathy with Isaac Goulden and her story of going to Findhorn and learn directly from Dorothy Mclean who is one of the founders of Findhorn. She shares her experience of being a midwife for 10 years within the hospital system, which lead her to working with midwives in Alice Springs on indigenous communities where shee met a teacher who immersed her in shamanic practices with plants. Heidi and I discuss the significance of connecting with ancestors and the relevance of ancestral knowledge in herbal medicine. We explore the ancestral lineage of plants and the interplay between plants and human ancestry. We have a great chat about spagirics and alchemy in herbal medicine, highlighting the transformative and evolutionary process involved in creating potent plant medicines. In this conversation, Heidi shares her practical and simple approach to alchemy and shares how the three parts of spagyrical tincture (spirit, soul, and body) are essential in alchemical processes. Heidi emphasizes the importance of experiencing alchemy in person and the healing exchange between humans and plants. We also explore the power of myth and storytelling in herbal education. Heidi shares her beautiful upcoming offerings and courses and shares her visions a future where herbal education is integrated and people feel comfortable and confident working with plants. Heidi's Website:https://wildflowerwalker.com/ Heidi's IG:https://www.instagram.com/wildflowerwalker Heidi's Link Tree:https://linktr.ee/wildflowerwalker Substack:https://substack.com/@mythicliving Purchase Heidi's book as an Ebook:https://www.booktopia.com.au/wild-flower-walker-heidi-wedd/ebook/9780463675861.html To find out more about The Elder Tree visit the website at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.theeldertree.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and donate to the crowdfunding campaign ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. You can join our Patreon ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠and gain a deeper connection to our podcast. Pay only $2 per week to have access to bonus and often exclusive resources and opportunities- plus support The Elder Tree at the same time!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/theeldertree⁠⁠⁠⁠ You can also follow The Elder Tree on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sign up to the newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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Dive into the world of spagyric tinctures and double decoctions in this episode where we unravel the mysteries and intricacies of these unique alchemical processes. Learn about the separation and recombination involved in crafting spagyric tinctures, their benefits beyond physical health, and considerations to keep in mind when using them. We also delve into the world of medicinal mushrooms, explaining how double decoctions and double extractions can unlock their healing potential. Whether you're a herbalist or simply interested in natural remedies, this episode offers practical insights and step-by-step procedures to enhance your understanding. Products Mentioned: Naturasophiaspagyrics.com Sponsored By: Earth Buddy Farms CBD Use Code HERBALBUDDY20 for 20% off today! Check Out Rita: SIGN UP FOR MY NEW BOOK Rita's Instagram Facebook Group My Courses My Website and Store

Sourcing the best medicinal mushrooms for pets can be daunting, how can we make sure the products we're buying are safe and effective? In this episode of Your Natural Dog Podcast with Angela Ardolino, guest Jason Scott joins us to share his expertise about all things mushrooms. Jason is a mycologist, ethnobotanist, and spagyricist who has spent the past decade studying traditional hermetic alchemy. He's also the founder of Feral Fungi and curator of the website AlcheMycology, as well as the mycologist collaborating with Angela on her line of sustainable mushroom tinctures for dogs, MycoDog. In this episode, Angela and Jason break down how the quality and sourcing of these mushrooms directly impact the effectiveness of the supplements we give to our pets. Join Angela and Jason as they discuss how mushrooms should be grown, harvested, and what to look for when sourcing medicinal mushrooms for dogs. Use code RADIO for 15% off your first order at https://cbddoghealth.com/Use code MYCO10 for 10% off your order of https://mycodog.com/Episode Recap: Creating the purest medicinal mushroom products for dogs Sourcing matters when it comes to medicinal mushrooms for dogs Issues in the mushroom supplement industry Why is a wild harvested/wild crafted mushroom best?  What is a whole mushroom extract, and why is it important?  Mycelium vs Myceliated grains Make sure you're buying mushroom extracts, not just ground-up mushrooms The benefits of double extraction  We know some of the benefits of mushrooms, but we don't have the full picture  What is Alchemycology, and what are Spagyrics?  Check back for Part 2: Benefits of Medicinal Mushrooms for Dogs Resources: Follow Feral Fungi on Instagram and Facebook Feral Fungi Website Follow AlcheMycology on Instagram AlcheMycology Website Use code MYCO10 for 10% Off all MycoDog Mushrooms for Dogs Have a question about your pet that you want answered on the podcast? Email us at Carter@yournaturaldog.com  Angie's Website CBD Dog Health Note: Like all discount codes, they don't last furever!Follow Your Natural Dog on Facebook and Instagram and if you want to see what Angie (our founder) is up to, follow her on Facebook 

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This is an encore episode - we're excited to re-share this gem (episode #200) with you again! We have Sajah Popham back on the podcast to talk to us about herbal alchemy & spagyrics! Sajah is author of Evolutionary Herbalism and the founder of the School of Evolutionary Herbalism, where he trains herbalists in a holistic system of plant medicine that encompasses clinical western herbalism, medical astrology, Ayurveda, and spagyric alchemy.  In this episode, we go into what Alchemy is... Sajah breaks down the word, the historical lineage and how it's rooted in the transformational process of nature.  He tells us how the alchemical tradition really looks at the wholeness of plants, people and the cosmos developing an herbal pharmacy focusing on this wholeness of the body, mind, spirit and soul. Then we go into spagyrics... what they are, how did Sajah first come to study them, and he breaks down the process and art of making spagyrics plus the three philosophical principles that are really the foundation of this tradition.  We go into how to start helping people with herbal alchemy and spagyrics - we cover the top tools in Sajah's toolbox to assess people and their herbal needs to match with the most effective remedy and then Sajah walks us through a couple of case studies that are fascinating through the alchemical lens including the best remedies, how he came to them, and the astrological connections.  There's so much more in this interview as we explore the various ways all of us can reconnect back with our own wholeness and our inner healers. ALCHEMICAL HERBALISM X FEED YOUR WILD AKASHIC BONUS! DOORS CLOSE JUNE 8th, 2023! ABOUT ALCHEMICAL HERBALISM: Like Ayurveda or Chinese Medicine, the Western Alchemical tradition is a complete system of medicine that works with plants to cure diseases of the body, spirit and soul. Alchemical Herbalism integrates clinical herbalism, alchemy and spagyrics, medical astrology, Ayurveda, and western herbalism into a powerful system. Get all the details right here: www.wildlyrooted.com/alchemicalherbalism  PLUS, A BONUS!: When you enroll in Alchemical Herbalism this week using my special link, you'll also get access to my Akashic Healer's Office Hours Support & Training ~ intuitive asynchronous support that I only share with my private mentorship program clients! A value of over $2,000 that you get for free if you join us using my special link. Click here to learn more: www.wildlyrooted.com/alchemicalherbalism Resources:  Apply for the Wildly Intuitive Practitioner Pathway Subscribe to Wild Meanderings: On the (he)Art of Healing :: A minicast for email subscribers only - you won't find these audios or info anywhere else! Register for the free Herbal Alchemy Mini-Course: https://www.wildlyrooted.com/herbalalchemy     Where To Find Venessa wildlyrooted.com IG - @wildlyrooted   Submit Submit to Your Questions!  Leave a Rating & Review on Apple podcasts   Support the Podcast Your support means the world... If the show has helped, inspired or spoken to you, it would mean the world to me if you show your support through a small financial contribution.  Each FYW episode is a labor of love that takes me about three days to produce... From as little as $1 a month, your support will help to cover the costs associated with producing and hosting the show. I love you. Thank you from the bottom of my heart! To make a monthly contribution, head to the Patreon page here. If you would like to make a one-time contribution, you may use our personal PayPal Link here and offer any dollar amount you'd like - send to @WildlyRooted: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/wildlyrooted   Thank you as every penny counts toward supporting this work! xo  

Spagyrics is the branch of the alchemical tradition that specifically concerns itself with the preparation and processing of medicinal plants. One of the unique attributes of spagyric preparations is that they are specifically designed to concentrate the physical, energetic and spiritual qualities of the plants in a singular extract. This process separates, purifies, and recombines the Three Principles of a plant, known as Sulfur, Mercury, and Salt, resulting in a uniquely powerful herbal medicine. Spagyric medicine is unique to alchemy and offers a holistic approach to healing by addressing an individual's physical, spiritual, and energetic well-being. This single remedy can be used for a variety of purposes, making it a versatile solution.  In today's episide, you'll learn: What spagyric medicine is and why it is so powerful  The process of gathering plants and planets in alchemy  How spagyric remedies impact your astral and physical body Techniques for extracting the physical, energetic, and spiritual qualities of an herb How this integrated approach  can revolutionize your practice   ———————————— CONNECT WITH SAJAH AND WHITNEY ———————————— To get free in depth mini-courses and videos, visit our blog at:  http://www.evolutionaryherbalism.com   Get daily inspiration and plant wisdom on our Facebook and Instagram channels: http://www.facebook.com/EvolutionaryHerbalism https://www.instagram.com/evolutionary_herbalism/   Be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyP63opAmcpIAQg1M9ShNSQ   Get a free 5-week course when you buy a copy of the book, Evolutionary Herbalism: https://www.evolutionaryherbalism.com/evolutionary-herbalism-book/   ———————————— ABOUT THE PLANT PATH ———————————— The Plant Path is a window into the world of herbal medicine. With perspectives gleaned from traditional Western herbalism, Ayurveda, Chinese Medicine, Alchemy, Medical Astrology, and traditional cultures from around the world, The Plant Path provides unique insights, skills and strategies for the practice of true holistic herbalism. From clinical to spiritual perspectives, we don't just focus on what herbs are "good for," but rather who they are as intelligent beings, and how we can work with them to heal us physically and consciously evolve.   ———————————— ABOUT SAJAH ———————————— Sajah Popham is the author of Evolutionary Herbalism and the founder of the School of Evolutionary Herbalism, where he trains herbalists in a holistic system of plant medicine that encompasses clinical Western herbalism, medical astrology, Ayurveda, and spagyric alchemy. His mission is to develop a comprehensive approach that balances the science and spirituality of plant medicine, focusing on using plants to heal and rejuvenate the body, clarify the mind, open the heart, and support the development of the soul. This is only achieved through understanding and working with the chemical, energetic, and spiritual properties of the plants. His teachings embody a heartfelt respect, honor and reverence for the vast intelligence of plants in a way that empowers us to look deeper into the nature of our medicines and ourselves. He lives on a homestead in the foothills of Mt. Baker Washington with his wife Whitney where he teaches, consults clients, and prepares spagyric herbal medicines.    ———————————— WANT TO FEATURE US ON YOUR PODCAST? ———————————— If you'd like to interview Sajah or Whitney to be on your podcast, click here to fill out an interview request form.

Mushrooms are one of the next big trends in holistic wellness, but how can we make sure the products we're buying are safe and effective? In this episode, Jason Scott joins us to share his expertise about all things mushrooms. He breaks down the difference between terms like mushroom extract, ground up mushroom, wild crafted mushroom, and double extractions to help pet parents figure out which products are best for them and their animals. Jason is a mycologist, ethnobotanist, and spagyricist who has spent the past decade studying traditional hermetic alchemy. He's also the founder of Feral Fungi and curator of the website AlcheMycology, as well as having collaborated with Your Natural Dog host Angela Ardolino on her line of sustainable mushroom tinctures for dogs, MycoDog.Episode Recap:It's difficult to find a trustworthy, U.S. based medicinal mushroom brand (1:20)Are mushrooms from China safe? (6:29)Why is a wild harvested/wild crafted mushroom best? (8:44)What is a whole mushroom extract, and why is it important? (11:36)Make sure you're buying mushroom extracts, not just ground-up mushrooms (17:30)The benefits of double extraction (20:48)We know some of the benefits of mushrooms, but we don't have the full picture (22:40)What is a myco alchemist, and what are Spagyrics? (24:06)Check back for part 2 on our favorite mushrooms and how they help our dogs (32:30)Resources:Follow Feral Fungi on Instagram and FacebookFeral Fungi WebsiteFollow AlcheMycology on InstagramAlcheMycology WebsiteUse code SHROOM15 for 15% Off all MycoDog productsHave a question about your pet that you want answered on the podcast? Email us at support@yournaturaldog.com Sign up for 10% off your first purchase on the Your Natural Dog storeAngie's WebsiteCBD Dog HealthYour Natural DogNote: Like all discount codes, they don't last furever!Follow Your Natural Dog on Facebook and Instagram and if you want to see what Angie (our founder) is up to, follow her here: Facebook and Instagram

In this show, Jason Scott of Feral Fungi joins me for the first time to talk about his process of making mushroom spagyrics.  It's a subject we've explored with both Sajah and Sheri on the show in the past, but never have we talked about fungi.  I really enjoyed my time with Jason, I hope you enjoy your time with us as well. www.feralfungi.com www.Patreon.com/adamsommer ....to support the creation of my writings/podcasts and be showered with gifts as well   www.Holestoheavens.com ...to adventure deeper into kosmos, mythos, and psyche Art by Derek Myers

-Connecting to ancestry through connecting to the land -Sulphur, salt, and mercury, the foundations of creation -spagyrics, the alchemy of plants -alchemy asks why do things happen -alchemy comes from the emerald tablets, ancient Egypt…. -the Dwellings of the Philosophers, Fullcanelli -“if you want to find alchemy, go to the Amazon” Terrence McKenna  -alchemy is the study of nature - If you don't understand magic, alchemy appears to be magical - Why Warren dropped out of college to research alchemy and science on his own - The difference between whole plant spagyric extracts and pharmaceuticals - Lotus flower extracts - Reclaiming sovereignty through connection to nature and re familiarization of the intelligence of plants - Tesla technology - Electrical frequencies and mysteries of the pyramids  Warrens IG: @warren.the.wizard @evolved_alchemy My IG: @_guidedbylove Warrnes website: https://www.evolvedalchemy.com/ link to my offerings: https://calendly.com/yoniverse/home-cumming-single-session?month=2022-05  

Stewart Lundy, along with his partner and wife, Natalie, farms 50 acres of land on a tiny peninsula in rural Virginia. For the past decade he has practiced biodynamics, and for the past eight years he has made and applied the biodynamic preparations. Stewart also works for The Josephine Porter Institute for Applied Bio-Dynamics. In his free time he is an active esoteric researcher, amateur alchemist, and practicing herbalist, experimenting with a wide range of innovations on the farm. He consults with farmers and gardeners across the world.You can find Stewart and his work at PerennialRoots.com

DOWNLOAD FULL SHOWNOTES WITH PHOTOS AND LINKS A spagyric remedy is an alchemical preparation of plants that separates the three elements, or categories, that make up the plant according to plant alchemy verbiage. The sulfur, which is considered the soul of the plant, the mercury considered the spirit, and the salt or the body. In ancient texts, the word spagyric actually means to separate and recombine. And in my work, this translates to plant alchemy. Minerals can be spagyrically crafted as well, and there are herbalists that make animal spagyrics, too. But I think that's kind of rare, and I don't know much about it. Even though I live in the desert I'm not motivated to catch scorpions for the work I do, no matter how good their venom may be. Now, I understand that alchemy has gotten a bad rap in the media in the past century or so but let's take a step back and try to go to the root of the method. What I'm actually doing when I practice plant alchemy is I'm extracting the medicinal elements, purifying them and putting them back together which results in a highly concentrated medicine. But maybe concentrated isn't the right word because all the original ingredients are there, plus the additional alcohol. But they do create a more potent medicine than a conventional tincture. This is because they are almost instantly absorbed into the cells of the body, and this is because the constituents of the herbs are almost identical to the constituents of the cells in chemical composition and electrical charge...

Today on Mushroom Hour we are blessed by the presence of Jason Scott, founder of Feral Fungi.  Jason Scott is a Mycologist, Ethnobotanist and Spagyricist who has studied traditional Hermetic Alchemy, from history and philosophy to practice, for the past 9 years. He has a background in Ethnobotany and Plant Medicine that started on the Big Island of Hawaii and has carried back with him into his home: the Pacific North West. Born and raised in Oregon, Jason has an intrinsic interest in the Fungal Queendom and all of its aspects: from cultivation and mycoremediation, to historical and cultural relationships. Jason has studied various different healing modalities including Ayurveda in Nepal and Western Herbalism all over Oregon and Washington. As Owner of Feral Fungi, he produces Mushroom Spagyric Tinctures, and he curates AlcheMycology.com where he shares some of his teachings and writings alongside other fascinating discoveries in the world of Fungi. Jason is also a co-organizer of the Radical Mycology Convergence and the Fungi Film Fest. He is on an ever-deepening journey of education to understand the practical applications of his interests, and the golden threads that connect them.   TOPICS COVERED:   Growing up Adrift in a Disconnected Culture  Radical Mycology Convergence  Heremetic Sciences – Alchemy, Astrology, Quabbalah  Philosophies & Origins of Alchemy  Embracing Practical Alchemy in Laboratory Work  Doctrines of Signatures, Correspondences & Emanations  Alche-mycology & Transmutation  Astrology & Planetary Correspondences  Astro-mycology - Mushrooms & Their Planets  Understanding Through Powers of Observation   Embracing the Qualitative  Dangers of Reductionism with Herbal Medicines  Spagyric Processing – Metaphor of Sulphur, Salt, Mercury  Frontiers of Mushroom Spagyrics  EPISODE RESOURCES:   Feral Fungi Website: https://feralfungi.com/  Feral Fungi IG: https://www.instagram.com/feralfungi/  Alchemycology Website: http://www.alchemycology.com/  Radical Mycology: https://www.radicalmycology.com/  Robert Bartlett: https://www.spagyricus.com/about-robert-bartlett/  Paracelsus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracelsus  Plant Path Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-plant-path/id1243181579   Manfred M Junius: https://www.simonandschuster.com/authors/Manfred-M-Junius/410051223  

On this episode of the Deep Share, Danunaki Dan joins me in a conversation with Phoenix Aurelius to learn about Spagyrics and their place in the world of Alchemy. This was a fascinating discussion that covered a lot of ground. I learned a lot and I hope to have Phoenix back for a part 2! Dan and I gained a lot from Phoenix's perspective and we hope you will too!Phoenix Aureliushttps://www.phoenixaurelius.org/https://www.instagram.com/phoenixaurelius/?hl=enDanunaki Danhttps://risingfromtheashes.podbean.com/https://www.instagram.com/risingftashes/https://t.me/risingftashesThanks for checking out this episode of The Deep Share PodcastPLEASE FOLLOW AND SUBSCRIBE FOR MORE!Visit The Deep Share Official Site:http://www.thedeepshare.comHelp support The Deep Share:https://app.redcircle.com/shows/df9fe83b-678c-4a21-8aad-ce78e59c75f2/donationshttps://thedeepshare.com/donate/Social Media:http://twitter.com/theDeepSharehttp://instagram.com/thedeepsharepodcasthttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ5PCeJDenZtUlc0pAJuFsAhttps://odysee.com/@Thedeepsharepodcast:aWant to be a guest on The Deep Share?contact@thedeepshare.comSUPPORT ALT MEDIA UNITED!!!http://altmediaunited.com/Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/thedeepsharepodcast/exclusive-contentAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

On this episode of The Vonu Podcast, I welcome Phoenix Aurelius, a spagyricist/medical astrologer, a gentleman I've been excited to speak to for some time. Phoenix runs the Phoenix Aurelius Research Academy, wherein he helps his clients reverse symptoms of so-called dis-ease utilizing spagyric herbal formulations, intrinsic data field readings,… The post TVP #126: Spagyrics, The Skyclock, & Self-Liberation with Phoenix Aurelius appeared first on The Vonu Podcast.

Join Phoenix Aurelius and Dr. True Ott, PhD as they discuss the invisible, yet powerful, frequencies all around us, and how they affect us for good or ill. They delve into fascinating topics covered in Dr. Ott's Doctoral Dissertation entitled "Harmonic Resonance". Dr. Ott further expounds on the very interesting correlations between vital minerals that the body needs, the Pythagorean Skein/The Perfect Fifth, and the true cause of illness, which is widely unknown. He also discusses the common denominator of all the "hotspots" for Covid-19, and debunks popular theories of virology and viral testing. Empower yourself with these vibrational secrets you won't want to miss! A. True Ott, of Ogden Utah received his PhD in Nutrition from prestigious Kneipp Institute of Naturopathy in Dresden, Germany. Dresden became known as the "Hospital City" of Europe following WWI. Dresden was wrongfully targeted by Allied incendiary bombing raids in the concluding weeks of WWII - solely because it was the epicenter of research on the Terrain Theory of Disease. Dr. Ott was mentored by the late Nobel Laureate Linus Pauling, and was taught how to prepare the best individual, negatively-charged and redoxed liquid mineral solutes. Ott's Doctoral Dissertation is entitled "HARMONIC RESONANCE", and exposes the reality that everything happening at the cellular level is based on frequencies. Referenced in this podcast episode: Phoenix Aurelius Research Academy is an affiliate of Mother Earth Minerals, offering the best water-soluble, angstrom size, cellularly available minerals on the market. Dr. Ott's book, Wellness Secrets for Life- An Owner's Manual for the Human Body, details the necessity of minerals and pure water for the body. Sign up here to access Dr. Ott's Doctoral Dissertation "Harmonic Resonance". Dr. Thomas Levy's, MD, JD book: Hidden Epidemic: Silent Oral Infections Cause Most Heart Attacks and Breast Cancers Consider supporting our research at the Phoenix Aurelius Research Academy by purchasing items from our Spagyric Apothecary, and apply coupon code 'listen15' at checkout for 15% off your order! Or become a Spagyrics of the Month Member with us and receive our newest 5 Spagyric Tinctures/Formulas every month, enjoying huge savings and high quality products! www.phoenixaurelius.org

Join Phoenix as he interviews Sherry Swiney who is the creator of "That is a lie" program which has helped her and countless other humans get rid of invading negative thoughts, schizophrenia, and other negative mental patterns. Sherry talks about how she feels negative thought patterns are often attributed to "dark side entities" and how they act very much like a parasite; invading the mind to access your memory in order to create relevant negative thoughts to elicit negative emotional responses from you so they can "feed" off of that energy. This is a fascinating conversation that expands on previous episodes we have had on the show with guests Jerry Marzinsky and Jenny Lynn, where they cover how schizophrenia is actually caused by negative entities. Sherry makes the point that everyone is susceptible to these negative entities and the best way to deal with these thoughts is to send love, laughter, and have no fear. Sherry co-authored “An Amazing Journey into the Psychotic Mind – Breaking the Spell of the Ivory Tower,” with Jerry Marzinsky and her website is http://www.keyholejourney.com/ The blog article Sherry mentioned in the interview: https://keyholejourney.wordpress.com/2021/10/03/when-did-you-wake-up/ To support our work please visit www.phoenixaurelius.org and consider signing up for our Spagyrics of the Month Club membership!

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Join Phoenix Aurelius and Jim Gale for this super uplifting & inspiring episode where they get into all things permaculture, food forests, and ultimately what the solutions to so many of our global problems are. Jim Gale launched his company Food Forest Abundance on Earth Day 2021, and already has expanded into most of the USA as well as 15 other countries. This guy is on fire and his mission to help make the garden of Eden a reality in our world, especially for our children and grandchildren is infectious. This episode covers all sorts of topics ranging from: -How Jim Gale got into Permaculture -What is Permaculture -Aquaponics -Slavery in our modern world and what it takes to be free -How to use Permaculture principles in your business and everyday life -Competitive vs. cooperative business models -How to do Permaculture on a low budget -How you can join Jim & his team as an independent contractor and help build food forests where you live (instant business model!) -Bio-chemical transmutation and the ability to use microbes to convert toxic air, water, and soil into healthy substances again -AND SO MUCH MORE! To learn more about Jim Gale and his Food Forest Abundance company visit: https://foodforestabundance.com Email Jim directly @ jim@foodforestabundance.com To support Alchemi-Culture Podcast: Shop for awesome spices and herbs at Mountain Rose Herbs Co. Become a Spagyrics of the Month Club Member Stock up your home apothecary by visiting ours at www.phoenixaurelius.org/apothecary and use the coupon code: Listen15 to receive 15% off your order.

Most old cultures have fermented foods as staples in their diet. This, of course, can be tied directly to alchemy or natural sciences, from long ago. The Alchemy of the plant kingdom is called Spagyrics, which most directly relates to the fermentation of things that can be ingested. Fermentation is a process used to make (more...) The post 366- Fer-Ment = Carry Mind & Fermented Foods Carry Life too (Free) appeared first on Crrow777 Radio.

We have Sajah Popham back on the podcast to talk to us about herbal alchemy & spagyrics! Sajah is author of Evolutionary Herbalism and the founder of the School of Evolutionary Herbalism, where he trains herbalists in a holistic system of plant medicine that encompasses clinical western herbalism, medical astrology, Ayurveda, and spagyric alchemy.  In this episode, we go into what Alchemy is... Sajah breaks down the word, the historical lineage and how it's rooted in the transformational process of nature.  He tells us how the alchemical tradition really looks at the wholeness of plants, people and the cosmos developing an herbal pharmacy focusing on this wholeness of the body, mind, spirit and soul. Then we go into spagyrics... what they are, how did Sajah first come to study them, and he breaks down the process and art of making spagyrics plus the three philosophical principles that are really the foundation of this tradition.  We go into how to start helping people with herbal alchemy and spagyrics - we cover the top tools in Sajah's toolbox to assess people and their herbal needs to match with the most effective remedy and then Sajah walks us through a couple of case studies that are fascinating through the alchemical lens including the best remedies, how he came to them, and the astrological connections.  There's so much more in this interview as we explore the various ways all of us can reconnect back with our own wholeness and our inner healers.   Click here for full show notes: http://www.wildlyrooted.com/fywpodcast/sajahpophamalchemy    {FREE} HERBAL ALCHEMY TRAINING SESSIONS Sajah and Whitney Popham, founders of The School of Evolutionary Herbalism, just released their annual amazing free Herbal Alchemy mini-course.  You'll get 3 in-depth online workshops and a PDF guidebook, where you'll discover: How alchemy unites the science and spirituality of people and plants The secret to making spagyric herbal extracts that heal the body and transform the soul A map that integrates herbal traditions of the world into a single cohesive system A truly holistic herbal practice to heal yourself, your family and community I'm totally blown away by how much amazing content there is in these training sessions… and they're just giving it away! Click here to register for their totally free Herbal Alchemy Mini-Course: http://www.wildlyrooted.com/herbalalchemy    ALCHEMICAL HERBALISM X FEED YOUR WILD AKASHIC BONUS! ABOUT ALCHEMICAL HERBALISM: Like Ayurveda or Chinese Medicine, the Western Alchemical tradition is a complete system of medicine that works with plants to cure diseases of the body, spirit and soul. While not too many people know much about Alchemy these days, one of the top experts on the subject is my friend Sajah Popham, who's been practicing both herbal alchemy and clinical herbalism for over 10 years.  And he's distilled everything he knows about this powerful practice in his online course, Alchemical Herbalism, which is open for enrollment Wed Oct 27! This is hands down the most comprehensive herbal training I've ever come across, as it integrates clinical herbalism, alchemy and spagyrics, medical astrology, Ayurveda, and western herbalism into a powerful system. Get all the details right here: www.wildlyrooted.com/alchemicalherbalism  PLUS, A BONUS: When you enroll in Alchemical Herbalism in the next week using my special link, you'll also get access to my Akashic Initiation & Expanded Training Programs ~ an intuitive training I only share with my private 90 day mentorship program clients! A value of over $700 that you get for free if you join us using my special link. Click here to learn more: www.wildlyrooted.com/alchemicalherbalism   ***** SUBSCRIBE :: Sign up for newsletter to receive updates on upcoming programs and events   SUPPORT THE PODCAST Your support means the world... If the show has helped, inspired or spoken to you, it would mean the world to me if you show your support through a small financial contribution. Each FYW episode is a labor of love that takes me about three days to produce... From as little as $1 a month, your support will help to cover the costs associated with producing and hosting the show. I love you. Thank you from the bottom of my heart! To make a monthly contribution, head to the Patreon page here. If you would like to make a one-time contribution, you may use our personal PayPal Link here and offer any dollar amount you'd like - send to @WildlyRooted: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/wildlyrooted   Thank you as every penny counts toward supporting this work! xo   *****   Leave a 5 Star Review for a chance to win a free personalized Akashic Soul Record Reading Recording. Then tune into future episodes to hear your review announced! If you win send us a message on Instagram to claim it.

When you're studying alchemical herbalism, the first step towards making spagyric medicine is with making the seven basics. You can complete this process in two ways; by looking outside yourself for quick answers or by developing a relationship that requires time and patience. Although the first may be tempting, taking your time yields an unparalleled potency. In today's blog post, you'll learn: How to integrate your intellectual knowledge into actionable steps  What the “seven basics” are in the alchemical tradition  Why it's worthwhile to skip shortcuts and take the long route when making spagyric medicine The importance of incorporating the mind, body, and spirit into producing spagyric medicine  ———————————— CONNECT WITH SAJAH AND WHITNEY ———————————— To get free in depth mini-courses and videos, visit our blog at:  http://www.evolutionaryherbalism.com   Get daily inspiration and plant wisdom on our Facebook and Instagram channels: http://www.facebook.com/EvolutionaryHerbalism https://www.instagram.com/evolutionary_herbalism/   Be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyP63opAmcpIAQg1M9ShNSQ   Get a free 5-week course when you buy a copy of the book, Evolutionary Herbalism:https://www.evolutionaryherbalism.com/evolutionary-herbalism-book/   ———————————— ABOUT THE PLANT PATH ———————————— The Plant Path is a window into the world of herbal medicine. With perspectives gleaned from traditional Western herbalism, Ayurveda, Chinese Medicine, Alchemy, Medical Astrology, and traditional cultures from around the world, The Plant Path provides unique insights, skills and strategies for the practice of true holistic herbalism. From clinical to spiritual perspectives, we don't just focus on what herbs are "good for," but rather who they are as intelligent beings, and how we can work with them to heal us physically and consciously evolve.   ———————————— ABOUT SAJAH ———————————— Sajah Popham is the author of Evolutionary Herbalism and the founder of the School of Evolutionary Herbalism, where he trains herbalists in a holistic system of plant medicine that encompasses clinical Western herbalism, medical astrology, Ayurveda, and spagyric alchemy. His mission is to develop a comprehensive approach that balances the science and spirituality of plant medicine, focusing on using plants to heal and rejuvenate the body, clarify the mind, open the heart, and support the development of the soul. This is only achieved through understanding and working with the chemical, energetic, and spiritual properties of the plants. His teachings embody a heartfelt respect, honor and reverence for the vast intelligence of plants in a way that empowers us to look deeper into the nature of our medicines and ourselves. He lives on a homestead in the foothills of Mt. Baker Washington with his wife Whitney where he teaches, consults clients, and prepares spagyric herbal medicines.    ———————————— WANT TO FEATURE US ON YOUR PODCAST? ———————————— If you'd like to interview Sajah or Whitney to be on your podcast, click here to fill out an interview request form.

Join Phoenix Aurelius as he talks about the fundamental differences between Alchemy & Spagyria, how Paracelsus created Spagyria as the remedial application of Alchemy, the many kingdoms that Spagyria works with i.e. not just "herbal Alchemy", the four pillars of Spagyria, the importance of fire in Alchemy, and much more. To support our work and this podcast consider becoming a Spagyrics of the Month Club member! Follow us on IG: @Phoenix.Aurelius.Alchemy www.phoenixaurelius.org

Join Canadian herbalist & alchemist, Daniel Wiseman and Phoenix Aurelius as they rap about practical Spagyria. They touch on subjects such as: using a scientific method of alchemical inquiry, evolving modern day Spagyria while still honoring the great teachers that came before, praise for Robert Bartlett, the place that "baser/vulgar/fixed" items of Spagyric Pharmacopoeia hold in a clinical setting, why Spagyria is so important and applicable, chemical esterification during the spagyric process, all about spagyric salts & menstrua, vacuum pumps, & so much more. In Phoenix's own words "If I had access to this information when I was first starting on my Spagyric and Alchemical path, I would have progressed so much more quickly." This episode is a wealth of information for those interested in the practical aspects of Spagyrics and Alchemy and who are eager to learn more, as well as those who are already steeped in the path. Daniel has been dedicated to the Herbal & Alchemical Path for almost 20 years, starting this journey in his late teens. Through direct experience with Nature, self study, travel, formal study from the East West School of Planetary Herbology and world famous alchemist Robert Bartlett, Daniel's eclectic practice weaves both modern and traditional systems of natural medicine within an alchemical framework of medicine-making and holistic assessment of health. Website: www.secret-fire.com Instagram: @alchemia.arcadia Email: info@secret-fire.com To support the Alchemi-Culture podcast you can sign up to become a Spagyrics of the Month Club member today! If you would love to learn how to get started in practical Spagyria check out Phoenix's online course: Spagyria 1010 and be sure to apply your special Alchemi-Culture podcast coupon code: Teachme15 at checkout to save 15% off! www.phoenixaurelius.org

Ahmed (based in Saudi Arabia) and Phoenix take a deep dive into translating an Arabic translation of the Emerald Tablet in order to give listeners perhaps one of the most accurate literal translations of the Emerald Tablet available today. The Emerald Tablet is the foundational literature for all Alchemical work and if you are serious about studying Alchemy or Spagyria, understanding this text is paramount to your progression and understanding of the work. This episode is best watched on our you-tube channel where you will be able to see the Emerald Tablet pulled up on the screen. (More episodes are to follow with a beginner's breakdown of the Emerald Tablet for those that are brand new so keep your eyes peeled for when those release.) To contact Ahmed or learn more about his work please visit: www.sacredjuniper.com To support this podcast visit www.phoenixaurleius.org and sign up for our Spagyrics of the Month Club!

In this power packed episode, Phoenix interviews the increasingly popular Dr. Tom Cowan, a world renowned Doctor and Medical Researcher, as he dives into a few ideas around sickness, health, and various medical theories around nerves and viruses. Some points addressed in this episode include: Dr. Cowan's 5 stage process of "not getting sick" as opposed to the Immune System as we generally think about it, humans as energy, what viruses appear to be and how there hasn't ever been a virus cell found in the fluids of a sick individual, nerve cells and synapses, and the results of our poisoned environment. Thomas S. Cowan, M.D., attended Duke University, graduating in 1977 Summa Cum Laud with a degree in biology. He then served as a Peace Corps volunteer in Swaziland, Africa, from 1977 to 1980, teaching gardening in a secondary school. It was in Swaziland where he encountered the work of Weston Price and Rudolf Steiner, two of the greatest influences on his career. After the Peace Corps he attended medical school in his home state of Michigan at the Michigan State College of Human Medicine. After graduating in 1984, he did an internship in family practice in Johnson City, New York. From 1985 until 2019. Dr. Cowan had a general medical practice, first in upstate New York, then for 17 years in Peterborough, N.H., and for 17 years in San Francisco, until his recent retirement from active practice. He formerly served as vice president of the Physicians Association for Anthroposophical Medicine and was a founding board member of the Weston A. Price Foundation. He continues to serve as its vice president. Dr. Cowan has given countless lectures and workshops throughout the U.S. on a variety of subjects in health and medicine. He is the author of six books. Five of these books spent time on the Amazon and/or Barnes & Noble bestseller lists, and each was ranked No. 1 in their respective categories, often for many months. In the past five years, he launched two businesses along with his wife and two sons. The first, Dr. Cowan's Garden, sells high-quality vegetable powders and kitchen staples; the second, drtomcowan.com, distributes information, hosts his popular webinar series, and sells many of the products he has used personally and in his practice. Dr. Cowan lives with his wife, Lynda, on rural farmland in Upstate New York. He has three children, one step-son and six thriving grandchildren. Check out Dr. Tom Cowan's work at https://drtomcowan.com The Fourfold Path To Healing Book: https://amzn.to/38eCBEy Human Heart Cosmic Heart Book: https://drtomcowan.com/products/human-heart-cosmic-heart/ Cancer and the Biology of Water Book: https://drtomcowan.com/products/cancer-and-the-new-biology-of-water/ The Nourishing Traditions Book of Baby & Child Care: https://amzn.to/3DkOOG4 To Support Phoenix Aurelius and the Alchemi-Culture Podcast sign up to be a Spagyrics of the Month Club Member: https://www.phoenixaurelius.org/membership-options

Phoenix Aurelius has the pleasure of interviewing the great Alchemist and long time practicing Spagyrist, Robert Allen Bartlett in this episode. As a fair warning, the first part of this episode may go over most people's heads, unless you are versed in Alchemical Terminology. Phoenix and Robert chat about: Robert's time working with Frater Albertus for the Paracelsus Research Society in SLC, Utah, his 50 plus years of Antimony research, Alchemical Oil of Gold, polar and non polar solvents, dreams for better research around Spagyria and creating a place for Spagyria in Modern Medicine, how the Spagyric process can create completely new phytochemicals, Fixed Sulfur, Paracelsus, a bit about Robert's books and his school "Spagyricus Institute", and plenty more. Regardless if you are a total newbie or experienced in the Alchemical arts, this episode is still bound to give you some interesting takeaways so keep your notepad and pencil ready. If you are familiar with Spagyria then you most likely have heard of Robert Allen Bartlett, as he has written a handful of some of the best books on the market that break down the elusive Alchemical Arts in a student friendly fashion. Phoenix is always recommending his books (linked below) to his own students, and has long looked up to Robert as the skilled teacher that he is. Robert Allen Bartlett was the chief chemist for famous Alchemist, Frater Albertus during the 1980's in Salt Lake City, for the Paracelsus Research Society (P.R.S.). Working closely with Frater Albertus, Robert researched and developed a wide range of herbal, mineral and metallic preparations following Western and Eastern alchemical traditions for applications in alternative health care. Robert had a long career as a chemist after P.R.S. closed it's doors, working as a research scientist for new ceramic materials and then later was the Chemistry Department Manager for a large materials testing laboratory. Throughout his life, Robert has been able to document and perfect Alchemical experiments in ways ancient alchemists would have dreamed about. Currently Robert is offering in person classes at his school, Spagyricus Institute in Marysville, WA and is working on releasing many more books in the future. Phoenix highly recommends studying with Robert Allen Bartlett first before taking any immersion apprenticeships with him personally at the Phoenix Aurelius Research Academy. Robert's books: Way of the Crucible: https://amzn.to/3A6zlXD Real Alchemy: https://amzn.to/3xiBb5X The Temper of Herbs: https://amzn.to/3xiBkGx Robert's website: https://www.spagyricus.com To support this podcast visit: www.phoenixaurelius.org and shop our apothecary (Listen15 coupon code saves you 15% off!) and/or become a Spagyrics of the Month Club member!

Bryen Lehto and I descuss The Art & Alchemy of Biotemple Hawaii, The wisdom of Nature, Intelligence of Plants, Cymatics, & Biochemical Physics and Functionality among other things in this emerging Aquarian age

DJ Ankenbrandt of Cintamani Tonics is back for another awesome episode to discuss all manner of tonic herbs. This episode covers a wide variety of topics including a bit about TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) and tonic herb history, polypores, decoctions, some of DJ's favorite tonic herbs, wild-harvesting, and more! To support DJ's work please visit his website https://www.cintamanitonics.com To support this podcast and the work Phoenix Aurelius is doing please visit: www.phoenixaurelius.org/apothecary to save 15% off anything in the apothecary with the coupon code: Listen15 Join our Spagyrics of the Month Club: https://www.phoenixaurelius.org/membership-options Check out Phoenix's online courses: https://www.phoenixaurelius.org/onlinecourses and use coupon code: Teachme15

Join Phoenix Aurelius as he chats with author and researcher Michelle DeVrieze about the bizarre phenomena of missing 411 cases (when people go mysteriously missing in the wilderness/national parks) and the Predator archetype. This fascinating discussion covers what Michelle believes to be happening behind the scenes of the missing 411 cases and how humans are not at the top of the food chain. Her goal is to help educate and spread awareness about this Predator so that humans can make smart choices in order to avoid the "hot spots" of missing 411 cases. To contact Michelle visit her IG @ Michelle.Devrieze Buy Michelle's Tarot inspired mugs: www.sortilegedesigns.com To support this podcast: Sign up to become a Spagyrics of the Month Club member Shop our Spagyric Apothecary Buy your ION* Products today

Enter the world of flower shaman Adrian Anteros, where the language is flower, the scent is heavenly, and the rhythm; A symbiotic flow of direct communion with plants and flowers. Anteros is the founder of Pure Heart Alchemy; the most divine range of living flower essence mysts, massage oils, and tonic essences to emerge from Gaia's garden. One myst/inhale of these powerful healing essences, and you instantly feel your energetic state shift, intuitively you come into centre, and in that moment you sense your vibrations elevate.   In this inspiring episode, Mase and Adrian explore shamanic practice, ceremony, the frequency and healing of flowers, the language of plants, and opening up the higher mind and heart through these powerful botanical essences. Adrian takes us on a journey through his intuitive alchemical creation process that entwines magic and integrity on every level; Pure Heart Alchemy creations contain world heritage Blue Mountains wild spring water, 24k gold Ormus, and are hand-tuned with harmonious frequencies found in nature to assist in raising vibrations. Tune in for Magical plant wisdom.   When you wrap your dream field around them, and you welcome them into your heart, there's something about the transference of plants and humans, that nature becomes one piece, and then you become the whole lyrical language in between". - Adrian Anteros   Mason and Adrian discuss: Speaking flower. Plant medicines. Flower Essences. Plant communion. Spagyric alchemy. Integrity and the creation process. How the plants are speaking to us. Essential mysts and how to use them. The immunity shield of Flower Essences. Raising our frequency through the vibration of plants.   Pure Heart Foundation (Pure Heart Alchemy) Pureheart Foundation (Pureheart Alchemy) is a Community Based Non-Government Organisation, which aims to create awareness and healing through humanity's sacred relationship with Plants. Pureheart Foundation offers educational events and healing products, designed to awaken spiritual consciousness, improve wellbeing and create connection within community. Pureheart Foundation is focused on creating awareness around the healing power of Plants, the benefits of Biodynamic Gardening, and to encourage awareness through Sacred Ritual - supporting greater health, wellbeing and consciousness. Pureheart Foundation is also planning to roll out initiatives that direct contributions to the creation of a Pureheart Garden Sanctuary where community can come together to share with each other and learn from other like-minded teachers who raise awareness and inspire vitality. We seek to assist our brothers and sisters by empowering them to create awareness for themselves regarding their sovereign spirituality and greater wellbeing, for the greater good of humankind.   Resources: Pure Heart Alchemy Instagram Pure Heart Alchemy Facebook Pure Heart Alchemy Website Medicina de Flores Sacred Sage  Lyrical Heart Brethren   Q: How Can I Support The SuperFeast Podcast? A: Tell all your friends and family and share online! We'd also love it if you could subscribe and review this podcast on iTunes. Or  check us out on Stitcher :)! Plus  we're on Spotify!   Check Out The Transcript Here:   Mason: (00:00) Hey, bro. Thanks for coming on.   Adrian Anteros: (00:02) Hey. Hey, Mase.   Mason: (00:02) Oh, I just realised I don't have my Myst around. I don't have my dropper around.   Adrian Anteros: (00:10) Yeah. Yeah, I'll have an extra one for you, bro.   Mason: (00:12) Yeah, please. I was just thinking back. I think I had SuperFeast when we met at that workshop. It was where we met. I think it was maybe Teangen's place in Manly, raw food workshop, I remember coming out the back to your car boot sale and you had the boot-.   Adrian Anteros: (00:40) Bootcamp.   Mason: (00:42) The bootcamp, yeah. And you had the Mysts there and you... we just had a great connection just after the workshop and then sat there I think an hour, running through all your Mysts that you'd brought with you. And I was struck by the style of communication when you were talking about the various frequencies that were coming through each of the Mysts, inspired by the various flower essences and plant extracts and mushrooms and intentions and [inaudible 00:01:15] and springwater that was going into them. The language. I know I've got friends who we were just talking about who referred to you as the Flower Shaman. I've referred to you as Speaking Flower. And it's fun. That's fun.   Adrian Anteros: (01:36) [inaudible 00:01:36], thank you.   Mason: (01:40) But that communicating on that level, because the language is flowery, because there's a particular frequency that comes when you are speaking of what they are in reality, rather than what we perceive them as with the human mind, and communicating the surface. Can you take us into that... the Flower Shaman energy. What is this plant shamanism that we're alluding to and where do you go when you find the need to speak in these lyrical, musical ways that we all love about you?   Adrian Anteros: (02:15) Yes. Well, it is artistic and poetry. I've always interpreted it as I feel it. It's having that direct communion with the plants and flowers. When you wrap your dream field around them, like a big hug and you welcome them into your heart, there's something about the transference of plants and human, that nature becomes one piece and then you become the whole lyrical language in between. So you meet there, where you meet at the assemblage point, where I find, over this last 20 years, almost veteran I'm speaking flower, that love, opening the portal, opening the portal of the heart, it's the main place where I go. It's almost like having a romance in the moment and you're so vulnerably in... you fall in love. That's where I find my language. So I fall in love with every flower pretty much that I encounter. Or it encounters me, I see first. The flower shamanism, I think that's been through all indigenous cultures. It's so ancient, between flower baths, blessing people. Flower language used to be in the iron ages and mediaeval ages.   Adrian Anteros: (03:47) Where you'd place a flower in a particular bouquet or bunch, someone at the other end of that, the kings or queens or usually the jester who reads it for the queens and kings, they would know the language of what was sent across the miles from one kingdom to another. So this folklore, that's where the folklore comes from in a sense. I've just compiled all my information over the years and allowed all that merging of... which I call flower language, flower shamanism, yeah.   Mason: (04:27) What is it about flowers in particular, because I know you are out there connecting, having this intersection in this point which I'm curious about rekindling and understanding your process. And I'd assume it's a unique process everyone would have to go through themselves to have that capacity to meet the flowers or hear their calling and meet at that point and hear and feel that language and feel that intention. But I know there's reading Steven Buhner's books. He explains the process. Yeah. I'm interested to know [crosstalk 00:05:04]. Yeah, the [inaudible 00:05:04] man. What a legend. But I'm interested in why flowers in particular, when we'll go deeper into plant shamanism and the whole plant kingdom and this fungal... it's goes on. But why flowers? Why that frequency? Why that medicine? It's like why is that particularly appealing to you?   Adrian Anteros: (05:27) Flowers, yeah man, show their beauty, but they are the pinnacle expression of a plant. It's almost like the seeded memory of the whole bank of knowledge in that plant waits for that moment that it flowers. And that to me is one of the highest vibrational points where it finally gives birth to its pure form. In the Steiner and the Castaneda... he taps on it but Steiner in particular tells you of the forces. The inhalation and the exhalation. The flower's actually the fire force. The fire element. So because it's such a... yeah, you almost fall in love looking at it, it is the fire in the heart, as my studies too and my findings, it's the fire in the heart that connects you to the flower, because it is such connected to the cosmos in that particular way. So you being like you're putting your grounding matches before the humans are grounding almost the grounding for the flower force field, to come back into the earth. And that's where we derive our information about medicine from.   Adrian Anteros: (06:57) But we need that so that "intermediary". And that's the human. That's our position on this, yeah, yeah. We become the seed on the fabric of creation when we can allow ourselves that vulnerable space that just falls so deeply with communication with the plants. This is where I bring my knowledge from and sit with them. It is the dream. It's the dream space. It's a dream collected. It's a bit like... I see it too, as though we can sleep in the same bed as our partner. Simultaneously we can have almost the same dream and we all take part in the same play or cabaret of dream. Plant is the same deal. We go into the same dream as them. And we merge like... so the plant doesn't distinguish between "Oh, I'm a plant and you're a human. Keep your distance." We all become one. And that's how I find my... yeah, that gnostic information that comes through for me. Yeah.   Mason: (08:36) You're talking to someone... Just to say for myself, I've experienced that realm and I've experienced times when I've been enabled through my lifestyle to lose myself in that dreaming, in my own dreaming and that connection. And then at times come and having that balancing out, say in this business world. I've gone in kicking and screaming, to then becoming more structured and being able to refine the way that I'm thinking with my intellect, which is for me the spleen energy. Big grounding energy. And that's what the aspiring spirit they say, in Taoism, is of that spleen. You go and you check your thoughts and go, "Am I heading towards manifesting my vision correctly?" Which is that grounding is something I know we've talked about quite often when you've gone so far into the heart or the visionary, sometimes grounding into reality, for me anyway, can be a challenge. I don't know where you're at with that conversation. But then from there, continuing that cycle, how do you talk and explain that process to people who say, coming to your events.   Mason: (09:41) And what is the process for you, if you are really in your mind right now, I'm going to try and explain and bridge you to the heart in terms of how to connect with this flower or plant and enter into that co-dreaming.   Adrian Anteros: (09:54) Yeah. I would mention, "Allow the plants to polarise the mind spell. Because they dissolve the programme because of their purity." So when we have events here, I will send people out... yeah, they'll go for half an hour, some will get lost in the forest. Fantastic. Even better. But I will say usually, you're talking about the spine, the backbone being the [inaudible 00:10:25] of all the information travelling up to the brain. A lot of approaches like to hug the tree, I like to also approach with my back to the tree. So your backbone is on the information. You're syncing with the plant or the tree in particular. So then you see people meditating and they've got their back to the tree. That's perfect posture. Absolute connection. Because your bones, which are the transistor or the antenna, your backbone in particular carries all the vertebrae, all the information, all the tones, all the music. They call that the music of the spine. Your music of the spine is being connected to the tree's information too.   Adrian Anteros: (11:22) So it comes through the backbone a lot, a lot I find. And that's why I train people here to just let themselves go. Let themselves go and lose the mind, the timelessness. The place where you just totally go damn empty. And yes, stay as long as you need. Dissolve yourself.   Mason: (11:49) I'm just thinking back, must be six years ago, when I first brought you Eucommia Bark in. And remember I sent you some and I was like, "Oh, I'm not going to tell you anything about what this is." You put a big spoon in your mouth and I don't know if you remember that, but you-   Adrian Anteros: (12:11) Yeah, I do. I've got a good memory, bro.   Mason: (12:14) Yeah. I don't know if you remember precisely what you said. There was one standout. And I just want to use that as a clarification for me, because you've gone into a deep feeling. And what is that internal process for you? You felt something in that extract powder, which is, it's an extract powder. It might have been sourced and extracted really well naturally, because you've been able to connect with it, which is always, again, it was one of those great gauges for me that I was still on that right track. I could still feel that wholeness of that plant and you could feel that wholeness of that plant communicating with clarity coming through. How did you get to that real feeling and that essence to then putting it into English. That's always the thing I liked about Steven Buhner. He said, "At some point, plants don't speak English. It needs to go up into the mind to get interpreted." What's that process for you of just doing that so that there's still a union between that feeling heart and the mind verbalising?   Adrian Anteros: (13:16) Yeah. Well I allow, Eucommia Bark yeah. I allow the plant, in whatever form it is, to land. When it lands to me, it lands in its purity. I'm transforming that medicine, whatever it might be, but when it goes in and I gestate it, it's going to be pure because of your own frequency and what you can do with your own magic. But when I receive it, it wraps around me like a skin. Then I unpack it, as I unpack it, it's already transferred its information to me. So it almost becomes part of my auric skin when I receive the plant. It wraps itself around me. It's a present. And that is the presence in the present. And as I unpack it, it's like information that I find and it has to travel through the field and the body, all the causal bodies. Then I can determine what it means in English. But I have to feel the whole goddamn thing at the same time, just in whatever motion it is, in plant speed, I call it.   Mason: (14:54) What's plant speed? I have a bit of an idea, but I'm keen to hear your-   Adrian Anteros: (14:59) Yeah, it's almost like the... plant speed is the pacemaker. Plants give you that pacemaker so you find the perfect rhythm with them, so you can internalise the medicine, the information, so yeah, it's that dance. How quickly you dance before you know that choreographed beautiful, I don't know, that dance that you're trying to learn. So yeah, plant speed will only allow you... it's such a "syncromented" time that you'll get it. You'll get it. It won't go any faster, it won't go any slower. So that's the pacemaker plant speed for sure.   Mason: (15:58) Yeah, with the tonics, you can see it's like people like, "How do I take them?" "Slot them in wherever. Just get them into you." And just they can just be joined some of like covert stuff. But at some point, if you can just pause and see... and I haven't known how to really communicate it without it becoming really ambiguous, and feel the pace that the plants want you to take on theirs. I think it's at that point you're still feeling what was happening already, but you've come into reality and been able to perceive how those plants are interacting with your field, with your chi, with your elements, which is always, it's always a next level. I found that it's almost an initiation. I say it's a difficult one to communicate with people. But it's almost an initiation. It's like this mysterious little treasure that people sometimes find on their own. And they're always going to find it on their own. It's like it's... you can't really teach a process for that.   Adrian Anteros: (17:03) Yeah. It's your personal myth. It is metaphysical too. It's your meta myth, so they say. Yeah. That will find you and the mushrooms. I found this orchid the other day. It's called the Underworld Orchid. It literally flowers under the earth's surface and totally feeds on mushrooms. Mushrooms just feed this plant into life. Nothing else. You did the thing up and there's just all sorts of different mushrooms come from everywhere. And it's stunning. It looks like a [inaudible 00:17:47] in all these colours and geez man, that's a symbiosis going on, which we just don't detect, if you're not open to feel and look at it. That subtle realm. Yeah.   Mason: (18:06) And straight away you go into lessons coming from... then plant shamanism. So much of plant shamanism what I've learned, I've just got clicked from what you were saying there, and we learned symbiosis. And then all of a sudden you've got access to this plethora of information and realities, which is one that humans maybe the mind's not going to perceive of on its own, which is you're in a symbiotic relationship and you can see that deficient in the world. Can you talk, let's go on... like these lessons. Some key lessons. I don't know what. There's too many to go through them all, but any that you are especially feeling right now. The symbiosis you were just talking about. We were just talking about the she-oak before, and about being potentially just in the context of conversation, something, this various trees that are maybe wanting humans to go, "Hey, I've got a bit of medicine right here," and you were like, "Oh, that was probably the one that fell over the border and was just trying to get into our reality."    Mason: (19:15) I'm really interested in going a little of a dive here into what the lessons are that emerge to humanity through say, the plant shamans. Maybe shamanism isn't just serving psychedelic plants after all.   Adrian Anteros: (19:29) No. One of the best... I literally did it yesterday. I've got a beautiful track down at the waterfall here. I walked at night, no stone and no torch. Just walked into the black. It's almost like the void to discover yourself and something more. So I was connecting with the stones around here. Beautiful, different formations. That's part of the emergence as well, with plants, because the stones being the record keepers, are talking about unpacking. They call it medical mineralogy. So the minerals on the planet storing so much information. The way that you connect to all your crystals is actually... take them inside and then allow them to open up. Allow the stone in. Gestate them like a sacred seed. So you're looking and you take that photographic information and you unpack it inside you. So I feel yeah, the plant shamanism, it's more psychology than... it merges. I'm sure there's psychedelics, but there's the psychology of those psychedelics is incredible and vast like the McKennas and all these guys. It's priceless information into really living a vital life.   Adrian Anteros: (21:20) Opening up those senses too. The higher mind, the higher heart. The three dantians, I like to go into that as well. Just boom, boom, boom. Have them all open before I walk into the forest, into the black. I'll open those all up so my senses are full of receivership. So I'm not just taking them at a face level, they're travelling through my being. Through my whole metamorphic field as well.   Mason: (21:51) And now, okay we go to that process, but then we go directly, say with the Mysts pump and those flower essences around our own field. I assume that same process is what we're inviting in when we pump around ourselves and we go into flower essences, the drops, whether that's on a point on the skin or taking that internally. Can you take us a little bit deeper into that process of the intent of the medicine there?   Adrian Anteros: (22:25) Yeah. Yeah. Well the Mysts themselves, I love this one, Enchantment-   Mason: (22:30) Oh my favourite. Absolute favourite as well.   Adrian Anteros: (22:38) [inaudible 00:22:38]. Incredible. But yeah, to me I see them as highly charged molecules interacting with our cellular system as well. We spray our field. It is spiritual information. It's full plant communion. Like the Enchantment in particular, I align this one with the tarot card. So that's related to the Fool. He's like the forest gypsy. He'll take a leap off into faith. And always just that trust in hope, and that one in particular is about the language of nature. What language do we use best to address ourselves and address the plant? The essence drops, Astral Aya, is one of my favourite too. Yeah, like you were saying, I do put them on different accu points. Sometimes I do a little bit of tapping. May the crown, the forehead, the heart, the feet, just depending on whatever meridian points a particular client or myself needs.   Mason: (24:02) Astral Aya. I've run out of Astral Aya, but can you give me a little download on the master plant energy coming in there?   Adrian Anteros: (24:10) Yep. Yeah. Half of this is a Spagyric now, which you're also privy to the information. It does take a long time to create the Spagyrics, but having them grow in my own company on this land, that one in particular about the expansive... it's almost the astro shamanism side, where you're connecting to the inner and outer planets, how wide do we actually allow our consciousness to be in everyday life? How much are we not perceiving? How much are we limiting ourselves? And what are you letting in? How much do you really want to let in? Whether it be for your mind, your body, your heart. That one's all about expansion in the moment. You do feel these instantaneously because of the frequency, the tesla technology, the scalar information, all that, that I run through these as well, so it does allow you to travel. Travel at almost light speed, which flower essence are a light. They are captured light. The photosynthesis, the sun information, it's all there, yeah. It's totally riding on it.   Mason: (25:47) Speaking of travel, just in case I don't get my little travel pack of the Mysts especially, having that Sacred Sage with me when I travel is always an absolute... I say planet sent, not God sent, in that instance it feels more appropriate. It's like that owl energy, eyes wide open, just able to... it's like putting that shield up around me is how I feel it. And just that owl, just that bang, ready to swoop on anything that comes into the field, and I just pump it on the planes, in the new Airbnb's. Don't have to... if I can't get in there and actually do a smoke. And then the Brethrens, it's still Brethren right?   Adrian Anteros: (26:29) Yeah man. Yeah. Yep.   Mason: (26:34) That Cougar. Is it Cougar, Jaguar, Courage?   Adrian Anteros: (26:38) Jaguar, yeah.   Mason: (26:39) Yeah, that Jaguar, the courage. And I always used to use it. I align with that so much with that surface immunity with those particular botanicals. But courage to get on the frontline of the body, where that war between the inner and the outer of the surface immune system in that phagocytic constant battle line is occurring, which is a beautiful part of nature as well as all the warring states that are going on, but living symbiotically as well. I always like, "Just get that in me, to that antiviral, that shield of protection as well."   Adrian Anteros: (27:15) Yeah. It is an immuno shield for sure. It's your own force field. What you call the Darth Vader. You can learn more about that. But yeah. It gives you that confidence as well. The confidence. It has all the antimicrobial, antispasmodic, antiseptic, all of those it has in Brethren in particular. I did place it that way, so it will align with our immunity tonic as well. Yeah, especially in this, I don't know, the currency that we are living in. I think the mushrooms, the tonics, really every artillery that's available to you in the medicinal world, then you need to raise your frequency enough to be walk in any battles and really-   Mason: (28:17) Well, let's dive into the therapies in that way, where you see the real therapeutics of the flower essences. How one can use them within themselves, what's going on when we do that and when you have those. And you've got the immunity to ingest I think. You've taken the Mysts and transformed them all into a dropper as well, like having a [inaudible 00:28:38], is that right?   Adrian Anteros: (28:40) Yeah, there's 11 in particular, I've created for the Mysts and the essence. Yeah. Just really 11 chakra systems. I've got the soul star, earth star, and all the other chakras in between. Yeah, I think it's like with the Akashic too, which is very much related to the tree of knowledge. The earth information, the mushrooms, that one. I have you in mind in particular, around the original origin of creation of this one. But yeah, having the internal essence and the external Myst, it's almost like your internal vibration meets your external frequency and you can find the balance in there. There's a whole emotional psychology in between there as well, in particular, like we just did the higher heart, self love essence with Celestial Myst. That's just opening up so many channels for people to... "How do you really love yourself? What's the best way?" You can open yourself up to loving yourself first before you can love anything, a plant or whatever. So yeah, that's really cracking open the portal of the heart.   Adrian Anteros: (30:19) That's the core of what a Pure Heart does. How do we decant, distil this pure heart that we actually... our origins derive from anyway. Bringing it back to that. The flowers always re-correct, re-centre you, recalibrate you into the... back on destiny's path, really. But yeah, health wise, if we can, with the flower essences... they're perfect marriage with any other medicine, because they'll always be in effect and be affectionate with other medicines, because they're soft, they flow, they move, they morph. They morph with say, I have the Mason's Mushrooms, but then not long after I can my Myst and my drops. It's just like, "Ah," there's some kind of beautiful dance going on there. They're happy to be with each other. There's no clash whatsoever with flower essences. They're always perfect in meeting. Like perfect relations. They carry this.   Mason: (31:39) I see such a symbiosis there. I've been really thinking a lot about this dance, which I also find that it is a beautiful dance. It's the old story between there's the big label, the good and evil, chaos and structure. And it's this light and dark whole basis of this universe, political left and right. All these balancing forces. And what you're talking about is this accessible flower essence, which is you're able to go and... you can procure on your own. Some like me aren't going to be doing that. I'm going to be using the Pure Heart, and then reminding myself that I do have that connection through the products, that I do have that possible connection straight back to the wild and the Source myself and keep that alive. It's the same with the herbs. People go... they can access these incredible mushrooms or tonics, but then, because it's in tradition, because there's an intent and a love behind it, it energetically shows its work back to the Source and reminds you that you've got the capacity to go and harvest your own medicines.   Mason: (32:48) Procure your own teas, and get into the earth the way you are right now. I think that's potentially the mission we've both known has arisen from the embers of intent around our business, and yet had to go on the journey in terms of accepting that that's going to require us building and going into the Dojo and challenging ourselves in order to facilitate that when we perhaps thought we were just going to live in the chaos, and not structure. And I see the accessibility of this and the reminding that you've got... you've got that therapy, that day to day therapy and it works so well. It isn't this intense, complex system that you need to remember and learn, which is the counter of the medical system's institutionalisation around herbalism, institutionalisation and certifications around flower essences. And people becoming the keepers of the knowledge, which is useful of course. Because there is a complexity of knowledge with flower essences or shamanism or herbalism.   Mason: (34:00) It gets to the point where it's like, "Maybe this is beyond the day to day person's capacity, and we can interact with the specialists at times, but remembering on the other side of that is that yeah, there's an actually a decentralisation and a non-institutionalisation, and you can see how your own or naturally rhythmic institution of your life and your family arises. And you can bring these herbs and these essences into it. And so I always like yeah, I always like the positioning and the determination and that stubbornness of pure heart in holding that space. I feel like stubbornness is a really great quality that comes out of the plant kingdom, especially. Like trying and get rid of Japanese knotweed. It's stubborn.   Adrian Anteros: (34:53) Robust. Yeah. It is, yeah. But we have a plant here that's pretty much overrun. It's called the Aeroplane. The Aeroplane plant or Spider plant. Anyway, It's been tested. It's 90% it dissolves pollutants in the air, more than any other plant on the planet. I've had this thing just outside the apothecary. I've been kicking it over, pulling it out, going, "Damn you weed, you just keep coming back." But of course. Of course, man. Let it overrun the place. Now, now I know. So it's... the medicine finds you. It will creep in anyway. Yeah, getting back to that, I feel like we are the blacksmith that walks into the furnace sometimes, like you're holding strong. You know you might get a little bit singed and burned getting in there, but you're going to create something beautiful like bringing in a medicine. Bring it. Bring it if you know it's within you and then be the keeper that holds the wild, like your mushrooms, brother. You bring the wild into your mushrooms.   Adrian Anteros: (36:18) People still taste the wilderness still there. That chalice that you've held them in, in that fiery furnace. That's what's needed. That's what's needed so that people don't... almost don't recognise anything of the pharmaceutical range. Nothing to do with that. So you keep the wild and I keep the wild of all the plants here too. Yeah, just riding on that is like the lone cowboy, man. Or cowgirl. It's yours. It's yours then. So I don't own the medicine. It's yours once it's travelling through you. You make do what you do.   Mason: (37:05) Can I ask a couple of things. I probably... I want to hear about a few... okay, a little bit more nuance of people navigating their way through the range of Pure Heart. I feel, as staples begin to emerge, Sacred Sage is what everyone this year, or probably last two years, everyone gets in for their birthday. Here we're back spraying Sacred Sage in the parcels when they go out.   Adrian Anteros: (37:35) Amazing, yeah.   Mason: (37:37) So that's a staple I feel for everyone. Have a bottle there, just because it's that Sage energy, it's becoming more and more familiar. Then the other staple is the Medicina de flores.   Adrian Anteros: (37:52) Yeah. Love it, man. Wow. Didn't have one this morning. But yeah, thank you.   Mason: (37:57) I want to go into it. Just so you know, where my progression of my thoughts is to lay down the staples. I think it's everyone really beneficial for me, for where I'm at, those are two are especially are those staples. So it's nice having a couple of staple products that are easy. If you're in the hustle and the bustle, you know you just go get your couple, and that's what I definitely recommend. Before we dive into the Medicina de flores, how do you recommend people get in, when they get into your world, how they best connect to what's going to be right for them at a particular time. What systematisation have you seen arise over product usage. Any other questions to be asking that leads you to the answer of the one, two, three, four products you're going to be getting.   Adrian Anteros: (38:45) Yeah. First entry I would say is to use Medicina de flores, because of the vastness of herbs and plants and practically has my whole repertoire of garden information of 88 plants. I have a few more than this, but 88 plants in particular, that... yeah, that gives you pretty much the library of information to begin with. You've got a stack of books without carrying the load. So, I would use that one first.   Mason: (39:34) While you're on it, maybe if you don't mind, can you take me in... and I immediately, you talk about flower blessings and you were at my wedding, where we were blessed to have that flower blessing and I was like, "Oh, you're right." That feeling when I dropped deep in the middle of that ceremony, Brandon and Jen took us into that space. I was like, "Oh yeah, I recognise that," when I doused myself in my Medicina de flores. Can you run us through the energy, the inspiration, and you know I like the inspiration behind the creation. Because I, like everyone, like a lot of people listening in, sat in ceremony, whether it's Ayahuasca, whether it's San Pedro and in Peru and had that Agua De Florida sprayed all over the place, spat all over me and just to hear what... that's a nostalgic smell for a lot of people, but go into that energy and then the inspiration behind you creating yours.   Adrian Anteros: (40:35) Yeah, well likewise. I was introduced to Agua De Florida travelling Peru and yeah, sitting in circles, yeah. It didn't align with me. Even though I was almost engaged and entrapped in the hysteria of the whole storyline, and but still there was something amiss here, because synthetics just don't... they've got a million and one chemicals that are not... there's no compatibility to the human design whatsoever. So yeah. And then when they spit it all over you, you're highly flammable, you pretty much... you walk past a campfire, you'd probably go up. But anyway, this is ridiculous.   Mason: (41:47) Petrochemical ceremony.   Adrian Anteros: (41:48) Oof. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. A running flame. But so yeah, I just knew I had to... there's something more entertaining than this. So yeah. I wanted to take it to higher consciousness. If you're cleansing, cleansing is a sacred rite. It's a passage of usually transforming one state to the next. So with Medicina de flores, what I found is, it will clear the parasitic energy, detox, declutter the whole senses, inhaling as well. I do it in prayer. All the waters we collected, it took us almost five years. Four for sure, to collect every water from sacred sites and springs all across the planet, on every continent we collected. People would bring the back to us. And we collected in the storehouse here. I wanted anyone to connect deeply to wherever they were on this flat plane, globe, whatever you want to call it. Wherever they are on the planet, they're able to connect with it. So that is the web of light that covers the planet we're on.   Adrian Anteros: (43:23) This way we can connect there, we can travel through water has that information, so that's why I just knew that 88 plants, 22 oils, every water from every continent on the planet. You've got a full open source. Open source connected through the fluids, we are fluids just like I was aligning it to us. What would best serve us as a spiritual cleanser and give us the information to transform? That's why I call these transformational medicine, because it's almost like the altered state of consciousness enough... it's almost like the agitation or the irritation in life is just enough to make you change. This will give you the... or help you through the threshold of transforming into the next phase. Or at least the initiation, initialising information like scent in particular. We can have a beautiful conversation. If we share Medicina in between this and yeah, it's like I won't forget a word you've ever said to me, because of that limbic... passing that limbic brain, straight into the storing pool of information of constant.   Adrian Anteros: (44:53) So, that's my love for Medicina. And we use the magpie, because the magpie is always speaking, always warbling, always hanging around you, wanting to communicate. Interesting, I have a couple follow me into the bush every day. They'll walk, walk, walk so far, obviously wanting a feed, but yeah. They're talking to-   Mason: (45:15) I think it's called the swoopy boy attacks.   Adrian Anteros: (45:20) Yeah, yeah. They're titanic masterpieces. They're trying to get your attention. But yeah, that's why I'm always playing between the tarot, the esoteric herbalism, all that ancient information, ancient shamanism, just blending the whole lot, really. Story's.   Mason: (45:49) Yeah, to get on to it, I think everyone listening. It's a really good gift if you've got a friend who sits in ceremony, who sat in ceremony here or in Peru, in the North Americas, wherever. Anyway they've gone and they've sat and you can hear this emerging natural narrative around this flower blessing and this clearing that you can access with the Medicina and just come. We'll take a little clip of this, we'll put that up on YouTube, just the clip talking about this. You send them that, send them a bottle of Medicina de Flores. You'll nail it. It's such a good gift. I've done that a couple of times now and it hits deep. It strikes something deep in those people who were connected to that intention around... every now and then they're shedding that parasitic energy that they've possibly felt or cultivated within themselves. And that and as I say, is just always a no brainer for me to give to myself and to others. You can always send a bottle to mum, it always works a treat. And then where are they heading in the apothecary?   Adrian Anteros: (47:05) Well yeah, I've taken on the Spagyrics just because of the concentration of medicinal value, the therapeutics, I've just... I've become fascinated with this type of alchemy. Yeah, talking about the language, it's a different... I'm alchemizing the different languages so that I can now offer an even more potent form of medicine, where it's non-intrusive but absolutely takes you to the highest point of consciousness, where we want VIP. All access. And then flower essences, they'll always give you that elevated, levitated feeling, because of where the flower sits on the perch of a plant. So yeah, we're opening up probably, I don't know how many, a few more months, but yeah, opening up the space of flower shamanism for interactive educational platforms of using this as a medium in your practitioner work, your own personal work. Actually journeying with them. Like at the moment we do... if someone was to have one of the essences, so we've got the Love Essence, the Grounding Essence, whatever, Astral Aya, I would say, "Do a 21 day [inaudible 00:49:01] on there. Seven drops three times a day for 21 days, you've got this full any habits, emotional stuckness, you'll push through that.   Adrian Anteros: (49:13) Because you've overcome... you've done your 21 day [inaudible 00:49:21] with the flowers. They want to work with you. You'll change it. You'll flip it. You'll flip that information. And then you'll find that, "Wow, it's almost like I took off the old coat." And yeah, that's the ability they have. So that's what I would suggest straight up anyway.   Mason: (49:44) Everyone can always get in touch with you guys as well, get a little bit of guidance, right?   Adrian Anteros: (49:50) Yeah, absolutely man. Yeah, yeah. There's many do. They just say... like a lady this morning says, "You know, someone..." Her friend just gave birth, a little bit traumatic, she was feeling out of her body and she said, "What should I use?" And I said, "Angelica," because that's a salve of comfort during transitioning. So I would use Angelica, it's got Angelica Heart [inaudible 00:50:22]. I think it's got Ashwagandha in there. That four are very strong pillars. So that will step into the room. That Angelica being, I see them as beings themselves. That whole formula being will start coming and then be like a midwife, will actually comfort the whole arena of people, whoever's in that space. Angelica was used by a clinical aromatherapist, [inaudible 00:50:53] that was giving birth, she used Angelica in a hospital.   Adrian Anteros: (51:00) Yeah, so when the baby was being delivered, it's like why not have the information between... imagine the first scent the baby comes into the world it smells of Angelica. It's like, "Wow." The mum continues to use that, the connection is there forever. The umbilical, that love. It stays with them for life. I've recently created a... they use the Love, the Jewells Myst and Love Essence and the husband, the wife have been taking this and spraying this and then when the child comes into the world, in their delivery room, they're going to be using this at the same time too. So it will be the Holy Trinity. It bonds the family together, just through essence and scent, which was pretty. It's quite touching to be able to offer this. That's where Pure Heart has been steered lately. It's really this sensational... it feels profound that where we've gone from in the car boot sale, to you originally, to like, "Wow man. This is used as, this actually more of a serious encoded medicine."   Mason: (52:47) It opens up and there's all these various pathways that are possible. There's a little postpartum pathway and the... there's all these different fairytale and stories and collections and intentions that are able to be easily be taken on. It's been nice and sometimes of a difficult one when there's so much complexity and so much that can't be communicated via a brand story, or just a website. But you build in the background with faith I guess, which is nice to watch it emerge. So it's nice to see it emerging.   Adrian Anteros: (53:24) Yeah, thank you man. Thank you. It is like that. It's... I don't know... you sit still long enough, you'll start to listen to yourself. Yeah, yeah. It's incredible what is possible just through holding the faith. Just through holding the faith, holding the trust. Knowing that yeah, let the medicine speak for themselves. And eventually it will, or step forward and hold your hand. Hold your hand. Wow. Thank you. You're showing me the way. I thought I was showing you. It's... yeah, very present man. And for me it feels like music every day with the plants. That is the music of the plants, going out there, coming in here, it's just like I come in, in the apothecary, all the essences, the tonics, they're just sitting there on the shelves. I come in there and I smoke them and I just play a little bit of light drum to them, connect, say, "Hey, how are you today? Let's go create." And it seems to run quite smooth from this forward.   Adrian Anteros: (54:59) And I've tried it. I've tried it. Other days I haven't, it's a little bit clunky. Only you'd know this. That the little wheels is a little off, but yeah. So that's the practise of checking-in every day. My first and foremost practise is Agnihotra, sacred fire, connecting the rising sun and all that. The first 40 seconds of the day and the last 40 seconds is the most volatile, full of information you'll have in your everyday. So you've really got 80 seconds there. 80 seconds to partake, that is to loaded with the new knowledge coming up, that it's amazing to sit there. That's the beginning of pretty much every day, man.   Mason: (55:57) [inaudible 00:55:57] used to live on an Agnihotra farm. We'd have a little [inaudible 00:56:07]. Yeah, I think what I like, I like chatting to you. I've been just really reminiscing at the moment about business, and became a little bit disillusioned by the people with conscious business, patting themselves on the back for ticking some boxes, but there were just was an incongruence there, and I only recognised it because I recognised it a little bit in myself. And I get that I judge those that I love the most so that I can get clarity in my own life as you maybe... and I've really been trying to nail what happens when a business for me, when the times that I felt a bit disillusioned with the business and when it becomes more of a job, which at times I know is necessary, but excessively and then maybe I lose a little bit of that connection to that essence and that inspiration and it doesn't seem to be evolving.   Mason: (57:05) It seems to be stagnating and I look at it objectively, and I go, "I'm still saying all the same things. The brand is about the same things. People in the business are really believing the mission. Customers are believing the mission, but I can feel something stagnant. And there's those embers that's before you have a business, that's the intention that emerges, and you create the business, and you go, "Right, I need to interpret with language." It's like the same with the communication of... when you're having a communication with a plant. You go and you go, "Ah, this is what I felt." You put some language to it. But if you don't continually go back and connect with say, the flower, with yourself, and then in this instance, the essence of the business. For me it's my muse within this world of creation we call business. Then all of a sudden, it's like what happens in Materia Medica, Botany with a plant. It's like you can read about it and memorise what that plant is, but then you're stuck in an institutional mindset.   Mason: (58:07) And that's the same with the business. You go, "Ah yeah, I'm about this, I'm about delivering this to the world, this is the big mission," and then for me, I've gone along and what I've recognised in you at all times is, you're going, "I'm not moving away from this muse. I'm going to continually be there." And I felt that at times, possibly I've become a bit too precious about protecting my muse and let it go and grow and interpreting it as something new, but yeah, I definitely can recognise that which I've maybe gone, in your business and the way you approach it, which is something which I've recognised in myself is if I don't go and check in and allow it to morph, I start using it as a justification. I start using it as a brand. I start commodifying it and I allow that brand to become a stagnant external thing, rather than constantly checking in. Constantly facing, "What are the quandaries I have?" Okay, hold both the quandaries to the light, the dark of everything, so that something new can emerge and a new interpretation and connection can emerge.   Mason: (59:12) And I've recognised that you've never wavered from staying in, from what I can tell, going that, "I'm staying in direct communion here, I'm to just running off into the entrepreneurial scene. I'm not just running off into the business scene," which can be challenging, when you're-   Adrian Anteros: (59:32) Yeah. 100%, man. Well, yeah. In the blending of perplexing and simplicity and watch your patterns of perfection. And does it steer me too far away from my first love, my first core essence bubbling in there? Yeah, I like to remain in that full self-inquiry. That is always presenting to me, something exciting and new, but it's very close to nature's rhythm. Because it's so close to nature's rhythm, it's actually my rhythm at the same time. So yeah, it's remaining soft, remaining soft, agile. Agile in the newness, but also having this divine drive that I'm guided by this, I'm guided by my... I don't know, my soul self, my God self, whatever you want to call it. But yeah, you've got to let have the mainstay. The main play in this... in my existence, that's the main stage. The main play. I totally hear you bro, it's like doing the entrepreneurship and geez, man.   Adrian Anteros: (01:01:26) Yeah, we have to have this too. Many hats. Pointed hats, long coats, short coats, shirtless, whatever, but have to have all those guards as well. So yeah, it's really finding yourself in that next phase. But it's the right relationship with your next rites of passage. So yeah, narratives, all this type of thing, but just stay in love with yourself along the way. Just stay in the self love. The self love.   Mason: (01:02:16) I think that sums up... sorry. I was just going to say for me, when I think about Pure Heart Alchemy, that sums up if you're going in, you're like, "Oh, where do I start?" If you sit in that self-love space and you enter into the apothecary whether you get going out and you're getting it at the shops, just jump on the website and go and connect. If you're sitting in that self-love space, it's pretty easy just to go like, "Yeah." You're out of problem-solution. You're into cultivation.   Adrian Anteros: (01:02:45) Yeah. Yeah. Coming home to yourself. Coming home to the love, the heart, the body, it's through nature. Through nature and these creations are absolutely funnelled you back into you, whether you're funnelling it from [inaudible 01:03:11] action, and cosmic channel, you're funnelling through your heart, through whatever part of your body. The flower essences, they're seeing you there. Absolutely seeing your hand, bro.    Mason: (01:04:10) Beautiful, man. I encourage everyone to go out and stock up, gifts, all that. It's a great offering. I feel like, you are so familiar with the offerings and feel I still am as well, and it's a nice feeling knowing so many people that still yet to go and stumble into that world and experience... because everyone who gets on there, they're always coming back like, "Yeah, that's right. I knew something was missing. I haven't got my Pure Heart. I've been a month without my Pure Heart." So I'm excited for everyone to go and stumble into that world.   Adrian Anteros: (01:04:46) Maybe we'll get everyone on the [inaudible 01:04:47] soon, bro.   Mason: (01:04:48) Ooh, yeah. I was just... because yesterday was 10 years since I started SuperFeast and I was just-   Adrian Anteros: (01:04:55) Oh, congratulations.   Mason: (01:04:57) Thanks, bro.   Adrian Anteros: (01:04:59) Cheers to that.   Mason: (01:05:05) Yeah, cheers. And I was just posting about the cacao party and I think we'd met maybe a year before that, but you were the Chief Flower Shaman of the cacao party. And I just remember everyone going, "Who's that big Adonis guy going around just pumping..." You were just pumping out of your holster. [crosstalk 01:05:33] out of your holster, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang... and the whole place just felt like a bouquet and smelt like one. And it was really significant... I look back at the, it was such a big party, it was pretty big in numbers, but it felt like a big moment, a lot of people met their tribes there at that party. A lot of people discovered things. Everyone always comes back. Everyone who was there got something special. It wasn't just like another conscious party. And you were such a big part of creating that energy, with just "mystifying" it.   Adrian Anteros: (01:06:08) Yeah, yeah. Wow, I absolutely remember that. I actually remember the scent I was pumping around most of all was... I think it was Tantric Rose. Tantric Rose pumping this chocolate cherry just [inaudible 01:06:27]. Fogging up the place. That was quite good. I remember on the side you had one of those stage fog machines and I got the dude to switch it on while I was pumping the Myst into it and it was just [inaudible 01:06:46], it was this vapour just hitting the walls and the dance floor. Yeah.   Mason: (01:06:56) That would've almost been the opening night for Tantric. I remember you creating it around that time and bringing the cocoa... anyone doing, there's so many people here facilitating ceremony, therapists, people doing cacao ceremonies, having their own tea and cacao ceremonies, you'll match here with the flower essences. You'll be able to find something to completely bring wind underneath the wings of that intention. Don't underestimate it. Get in touch with these guys or follow your heart and just find that Myst or that dropper that spagyric. Bring the Medicina de Flores in there no matter what, to clear yourself before you head into that space of ceremony. It's the same as you go and stand on the earth and [inaudible 01:07:50]. You can release that energy and cleanse and then you bring a little flower blessing in. Dose yourself over the top. You can go in clear. These are real amazing allies. So grateful to you and Isabella is off camera for bringing it forward into the world to your friends.   Adrian Anteros: (01:08:11) Yeah. Thank you for all you do too, brother. That was incredible. Incredible.   Mason: (01:08:16) Absolute pleasure. Thank you. All the links are in the show notes, guys, but if you look up to your Heart Alchemy, bam.   Adrian Anteros: (01:08:24) Boom.   Mason: (01:08:24) There you are. Boom. Get on the newsletter as well. Get on the newsletter. Lots of goodies. Lots of insights. Lots of flower shamaning.   Adrian Anteros: (01:08:34) Yeah. Aho.   Mason: (01:08:37) Aho. Ciao.   For more details go to: https://www.superfeast.com.au/blogs/superblog/adrian-anteros-ep-122

In this rich conversation, Mason sits down with the brilliant herbalist Sajah Popham; Founder of School Of Evolutionary Herbalism and Organic Unity in southern Oregon, for a journey into the otherworldly space of plant alchemy, herbal remedies, spagyric medicine, and the inextricable relationship between man and our magically healing plant friends. Geared with both the Science and esoteric understanding of herbal medicine and trained in real alchemy by the great Robert Bartlett, Sajah brings a holistic understanding of the universal truths and principles that govern plants and healing. Sajah's depth of knowledge and reverence for plants as healers is truly a gift to this world. A guardian of the plant kingdom, he walks his path devoted to healing and teaching people that plants are not something we use mindlessly and forget about once healed. He reminds us they are our allies, guides, and protectors, that we should seek to understand and develop a connection that deepens with time. Make sure you tune in for this one!   "If we can imagine back to the first human beings ever to exist on planet earth and think of who was the first teacher of herbal medicine? Well, it was the plants themselves. And that's something that I really want to come back to in my own work."   -Sajah Popham   Mason and Sajah discuss: Spagyrics and the process of creating medicine. Medical astrology. Medical Alchemy. The three philosophical principles of alchemy (Tria Prima). How do we bring together science and spirituality? Universal themes among ancient medicine systems. Esoteric knowledge and how it relates to plants and healing. The importance of developing a relationship with the plants we utilise as medicines. Looking at people and plants through an energetic lens. The three Doshas of Ayurveda. Integrative medicine; Eastern and Western systems of medicine coming together. Returning to the heart space and sitting in earth energy for healing.    Who is Sajah Popham? Sajah Popham (B.S. Herbal Sciences), founder and core instructor of Organic Unity and School of Evolutionary Herbalism, is a student of the universal truths found within both ancient and modern herbal traditions from around the world. The focus of his work is on integrating ancient teachings for a new paradigm of plant medicine, one that is truly holistic in its honoring of the spirit, energetics, and body of both people and plants. His unique synthesis bridges herbalism not only east and west, but north and south, above and below, into a universal philosophy that encompasses indigenous wisdom, Ayurveda, western Alchemy and Spagyrics, Astrology, clinical herbalism, and modern pharmacology. Sajah’s vitalist approach utilizes plants not only for physiological healing and rejuvenation, but for the evolution of consciousness, for a truly holistic practice of plant medicine. Sajah’s teachings embody a heartfelt respect, honor and reverence for the vast intelligence of plants in a way that empowers us to look deeper into the nature of our medicines and ourselves. He lives in southern Oregon with his wife where he teaches at his school, makes spagyric medicines, and practices his art.   Resources: School Of Evolutionary Herbalism Facebook (School Of Evolutionary Herbalism) Instagram (School Of Evolutionary Herbalism) YouTube (School Of Evolutionary Herbalism) Evolutionary Herbalism Book The Plant Path Podcast with Sajah & Whitney Popham Organic Unity- Alchemical Herbal Extracts   Q: How Can I Support The SuperFeast Podcast? A: Tell all your friends and family and share online! We’d also love it if you could subscribe and review this podcast on iTunes. Or  check us out on Stitcher, CastBox, iHeart RADIO:)! Plus  we're on Spotify!   Check Out The Transcript Here:   Mason: (00:00) Hey Sajah. Welcome, man.   Sajah Popham: (00:01) Thank you.   Mason: (00:02) All right. How are you doing down there in Oregon? Can you tell us a little bit about where you're at, where you've landed in the world and what you're up to there?   Sajah Popham: (00:11) Yeah. I live in the Southern part of Oregon State here in the United States and I live out here on 120 acres with my wife, Whitney, where we host our school called the School of Evolutionary Herbalism, where we teach a lot of workshops to herbalists and people wanting to really reconnect with the wisdom of plants and different traditions from around the world that have used plants as medicines. And we also spend a lot of our time out here preparing spagyric herbal extracts for our business, Organic Unity, which is an aspect of the alchemical tradition from Europe and very specific methods of preparing herbs into medicines that concentrates their physical properties, as well as their spiritual and energetic properties as well.   Mason: (01:02) What made you get into spagyrics?   Sajah Popham: (01:03) [inaudible 00:01:03].   Mason: (01:05) Yeah. Awesome. And I forgot but I think I'd mentioned before we jumped on and coming up to Oregon to go to the American Herbal Guild Symposium in October. Don't know if you're going to be around there, but looking forward to going out to get out there, but I meant the spagyrics. I'm really interested to hear what got you into that aspect of herbalism, because I don't know what it's like in the US whether it's spreading a little bit. I'm sure thanks to yourself, it has, but it hasn't permeated just the everyday herbal community here in Australia.   Sajah Popham: (01:39) Yeah. Well, I would definitely say that's true out here in the States as well. When we're talking about alchemy and spagyrics we're getting on a pretty fringy part of herbal medicine that I feel very committed to opening up more to the verbal world. For me alchemy and spagyrics was really the missing link. It was the missing piece of the puzzle for me in terms of my plant path, my journey into the world of herbal medicine. And I was studying at Bastyr University up there in Seattle and in the herbal sciences programme. And for me, as the programme implies, it's a very scientifically oriented programme. So we're studying the botany and the chemistry and the pharmacology and plant constituents and how to best extract them and anatomy and physiology and biochemistry, and a very scientific model of herbal medicine, which I love. I really loved science.   Sajah Popham: (02:45) I love that whole aspect of it. But during that time as well I was really deepening just in my own direct connection with the plants. And I think a lot of people experienced this where our lives are changed when a plant heals us. It's like sometimes we're going through our life and we're having a hard time with something, maybe something in our body, maybe something in our heart or mind, and then a plant comes to us and we take that plant into our body and it fundamentally changes who we are and heals us. And so for me having this deep spiritual connection to the plants and this very scientific model of understanding plants, created this little rift inside of me, well, maybe a big rift. It was like, how do I bring these two together? How do I bring together the science and the spirit of herbal medicine?   Sajah Popham: (03:41) And I think that's something that's going on on a cultural level as well, just how do we bring together science and spirituality? And that led me to study a lot of different medical traditions, spiritual traditions and eventually that led me to Tuscany, Italy, where I was doing a study abroad trip there. And there was a man that talked about medical alchemy, medical astrology, and he was talking about just all this very esoteric knowledge and how it relates to plants and healing. And I remember it just really clicking something into place for me because in alchemy they utilise chemical terminology to denote a spiritual principle. And that really made a lot of sense to me and how they had methods of preparing plants that would concentrate their chemistry that works in the body, but also methods of concentrating the spiritual properties of the plants and how those influence our minds, our emotions, and ultimately our spiritual growth and evolution.   Sajah Popham: (04:56) And that became a very fundamental model for how I perceived plants and practised herbal medicine. I didn't really want to just approach herbal medicine to "fix what's broken in our bodies" because they did so much more for me in my own plant path. I wanted to assist people in that deeper connection to the true self, deeper connection to nature, deeper connection to the spirit that's in all of life. And I believe that the plants have an incredible capacity to do so. And it was through the spagyric preparations that I found it best to help people in that way.   Mason: (05:37) And just for my sake, can you take me a little bit through that preparation model? I understand it from way back in a heavily alchemical process, it's probably not something that downloads easily down to a couple of sentences or paragraphs, but just to understand what that process is, if you mind.   Sajah Popham: (05:54) Yeah, sure. Well, everything in alchemy, they say everything in nature, or everything in creation has three fundamental principles. What they call Tria Prima or the three philosophical principles, and in alchemy, they see that as they call sulphur, mercury and salt, and this correlates to the soul, the spirit and the body of any particular thing, whether that's a person or a plant or a stone or whatever it is, everything in nature has these three principles and we can see that threefold pattern reflected in a whole lot of different traditions around the world. Ayurveda has its three doshas. Chinese medicine has its three treasures. Astrology has its three modes. There's all manner of Holy trinities, so to speak in different medical, scientific and spiritual traditions. So in spagyrics, which is plant-based alchemy, they say that the sulphur, mercury and salt of a plant corresponds to the essential oils, the alcohol-soluble constituents and the mineral salts.   Sajah Popham: (07:07) And so in the spagyric process, the sulphur, mercury and salt are the oil, the alcohol and the minerals are all separated from the plant through different techniques. The distillation, fermentation, rectification, calcination, disillusion these different spagyric processes whereby these three fundamental principles of a plant are separated purified, and then recombined back together into what is said to be an evolved expression of that plant and the soul, the spirit and the body of the plant is present in the medicine. It acts upon the human soul, spirit and body as well. And so in that way, spagyrics are said to have an evolutionary function or the way the old alchemists put it, it has an initiatic virtue, meaning that it's initiating us into a higher level of consciousness. And the thing that's really cool about the that really was what hooked me was, when I was in college and learning how to make herbal medicines, I always wanted the strongest medicine I could get.   Sajah Popham: (08:22) And so I would tincture it and re-tincture it and cook it down and boil it in water and extract it and vinegar and put it all together and put a flower essence in there. It's just like I was crazy. I just wanted the whole plant there, but what always ended up happening is I had to throw the plant material away and it always really bothered me. I always felt like there was something there that I wasn't getting. And in the spagyric process, we never throw the body of plant have away. I would say that has the salt principle. And so in spagyric works, once a plant is extracted we'll actually burn the plant down to an ash and then take that ash and run it through some further processes that basically yields crystals.   Sajah Popham: (09:14) We extract crystalline mineral salts from the plant that they say, that's the purified body of the plant. And when you have that body of the plant, you're anchoring the intelligence of that plant into its physical body so that then it can influence our physical body in a much deeper way. So we don't throw anything out in the spagyric process. You really get the whole plant. And when you get the whole plant, it's going to work on the whole person. And that to me is one of the foundational elements of what it means to practise holistic herbal medicine.   Mason: (09:52) Thanks for explaining it like that as well. That's landed with me so hard, especially with the throwing out the herb after you're done with a tea or a tincture, or maybe doing a vinegar extraction or anything like that. The best we can do here is just get them back into circulation, composting them. But there's this saying, so [inaudible 00:10:09] especially about we've got like in the West, we can all probably agree that we've got that scientific way and reductionist way of approaching herbalism down-packed and gone for the chemistry. The aspect that you're talking about and connecting with the spirit and the personality of the herb, the patterns of the herb, that part of the herb where you can actually develop a relationship. Generally you can say that's a bit deficient.   Mason: (10:40) Now, for some reason, I've just started thinking about an array of people out there who are in that frame of mind, where it's like a pill for the ill, "I've got a symptom and I need to knock it on the head." Now that's like in health food stores in major cities, et cetera, there seems to be a glass ceiling on actually being able to go and connect with the spirit of the herb or get out of that mentality of just trying to fix yourself, trying to cure these symptoms. Stay with me because I don't have a question. I'm just going through something here. I'm really interested in talking to ways and it seems like we're already talking to it, to continue to bridge that gap, especially for people who are in the trenches of cities.   Mason: (11:37) I know I go off on tangents and some pretty elaborate tangents and recommendations. And I had a lot of moms. Moms come to me and be like, "Mason, cool, your jets now. I got four kids and I need something solid that I can get into now." Let's talk to that a little bit. Let's talk to that in practises that can transfer across whether someone's like in the 9:00 to 5:00 grind in the city or in the country, what are the best ways you find to bridge that gap from the mentality of "fix me" to "let's grow and explore and evolve", especially with getting to know herbal personalities.   Sajah Popham: (12:17) Yeah. Great question. I think there's some layers to that. On the one hand you have people that maybe are experiencing health issues, health concerns, and they'd like to take a more alternative route which it's funny that we call it alternative, but it really should be this normal-   Mason: (12:38) Yeah. And you're right.   Sajah Popham: (12:38) ... to work with nature. And I don't necessarily... It's not everyone's path to have these deep spiritual connections to the plants and to the vegetable realm and I don't think that that would negate the efficacy of someone working with plants in that way. And then on the other end of that spectrum, we have people that are maybe naturopaths or clinical herbalists or the plant people. And those tend to be the people that I'm more communicating with. And so one of the things that I always like to encourage people that are working with the herbs in a deeper way, that we want to have a relationship with those medicines, we want to have a relationship to the plants that we're utilising as medicines.   Sajah Popham: (13:33) And it reminds me of something one of my teachers, Matthew Wood says. He says, "Don't be just an armchair herbalist." And I always really liked that because he says, "There's some herbalists out there that just sit in their arm chair and read the books and do the bookwork and the studies, which is great. But that relationship with the medicines we use takes on this whole other level, when we go out into the forest and we find the herb and we pick it and we eat it and we make medicine out of it. And maybe we sit with it and pray with it and make offerings and go through this deeper process of having a relationship with that plant that we're working with. And then when we get that remedy to someone there's an added something special to it, there's an added power to it because we know that plant and that plant knows us. And so we have a deeper connection and relationship to it."   Sajah Popham: (14:35) And so one of the things that I think also the different element of your question that I was hearing there is, to me, I'm just thinking of folks living in the city and maybe not having very deep relationship to the natural world. To me, this is one the core sicknesses or imbalances that I think is permeating the world right now is this disconnect from the natural ecosystem that is Gaia and it's ironic because the human being is as much a part of nature as everything else.   Sajah Popham: (15:19) It's just that we have created this world. I always say we use the terms world and earth very similarly. But to me they're very different. To me, the world is what is the human mind made manifest. So we think of a city. You're in a city on the concrete and there's the lights and the advertising comes in, the signs and you're literally surrounded by the human mind made into manifest form into something physical, like someone had the idea to make that sign or create this light or this shop and all these things in there. And it's like, mind, mind, mind. It's like, we're surrounded by the human mind and that's the world. But the earth to me is something... The human mind didn't create the earth, something greater than the human mind created the earth.   Sajah Popham: (16:15) And I always say it's like the earth is created by the mind of the creator, but it's not really a mind, it's a heart. And so to me, it's like the earth and the natural world of which we're a part of, is an expression of the divine of the love of creation and that when we surround ourselves by a natural habitat, that it strengthens this connection to the human heart. And it's the split between the world and the earth, and the mind and the heart, and the science and the spirit. It's that division that I think is making people sick on a lot of different levels. And so to me, just by having a deeper connection and relationship to the natural world that is giving us life every day, it's like we're all breathing the same air. We're all drinking the same water. We're all being nourished by this food that's grown from the earth. It's like we're all a part of that.   Sajah Popham: (17:22) And so when we bring that into a greater level of awareness, I think there's a reassembling of the human spirit that happens. And I think there's something, a deep healing that happens in our hearts where we feel connected to something greater than ourselves. And I think it's interesting that in our modern culture, that we see so much depression and so much anxiety and so much heart disease. I think these are physiological expressions of a split in the location of our consciousness, of being up in the mind and being in the world as opposed to being in the heart and being in the earth. So that's what comes to mind just based on what you were mentioning there.   Mason: (18:13) And did you get interested in herbalism especially, and immersing yourself in nature? Were you having the experience of the separation yourself?   Sajah Popham: (18:22) Oh, absolutely. I was not raised by hippie parents or in the woods or anything. I grew up in a little suburb between Tacoma and Seattle, Washington. I grew up in about as a conventional lifestyle, as one could imagine eating fast food and going to public schools, nothing too special about me.   Mason: (18:49) I'm sure there's lots of special values. I feel something similar then in terms of growing up on the fast food. Growing up I can one-up you and say I went to Catholic school. And so what I'm interested in is talking more about... I don't know about you, but in my early days, I felt even my mind, I sensed I wanted to be unified once again within myself and with the world. I could still feel an excess of that mind energy, being attached to arriving at a place where I can now I'm unified. Almost in a melancholic way that was like, not that I'd actually consciously think this and that makes me better and more in the know than other people. And it was a really fun and interesting process to feel as the mind and body unity began to occur that I've started really falling in love more and more with that process rather than the destination of unifying. And actually there is no destination there at all. Are you feeling me on that one?   Sajah Popham: (20:00) Absolutely. Yeah. The way that I think of it especially in the health world, and in the spiritual world as well, I feel like it's so easy for our minds to create some sort of, like you said, a destination, an idealised image of the self, of perfect balance, and we want that so bad. We want that vitality. We want that rejuvenation. We want that perfect health and balance and harmony, and maybe we'll get there for a moment. And then the wind will blow and then create... It's like everything's in constant flux. I love that saying that the only thing that doesn't change is that everything changes. And it makes me think about the Ayurvedic concept of doshas.   Sajah Popham: (21:00) These three doshas Ayurveda is really the basis of their anatomy and their constitutional theory and the way they classify herbs of these three doshas of Kapha, Vata, and Pitta, which are composed of our five elements of nature, ether, air, fire, water, and earth. And I love that definition of dosha is basically that which goes out of balance. And so it's the foundation of the way they understand the human organism is that balance itself is a changing phenomenon and that we can only get to a certain place for so long and then that's going to change. And so I think that's always an interesting thing to consider in regards to our health, that there is no end goal, there is no peak of the mountain. It's like we'll get to the peak of the mountain, but then we're going to see four or five more after that, if that makes any sense.   Mason: (22:05) Yeah, it does. And I'm only in here talking about gaining relationships with herbs, especially before you were talking about that moment, where if you have a relationship with the herb and the fact that you go through a healing journey with it, or if it heals you or if it helps you gain access to something within your body, then all of a sudden that relationship, it's solid, it's spiritual, you're mates with that herb. I've definitely experienced that. And especially in talking about the Western mindset of coming to herbs is just "fix me". And especially with when for me you're approaching herbalism heavily from the tonics, you're getting into Daoist tonic herbalism in the beginning and really enjoying that and still enjoying that where that sits within a holistic lifestyle, but starting to get schooled a little bit on the fact that there is no balance point. The herb's aren't going to get you balanced. Sometimes they might actually take you off balance so that you can further understand how to come back into balance within yourself.   Mason: (23:21) When I began to open up with understanding the varying ways that I can have a relationship with a plant or with a herb and what we were talking about before we jumped on, which I'd like to weave into this is moving away from the textbook. This herb reishi, whatever, is good for the heart, tones the liver, does this to the immune system, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. "Okay, cool. I'm going to use that herb to fix me in this or to get me a balance in this," but then all of a sudden you start actually, with any herb, you start actually introducing it in a way that gives you the opportunity to actually feel what it's doing, and then what your body's doing with that herb. The herb all of a sudden opens up and you go, "Okay, there's no black and white uses when it comes to this herb." And you realise you've opened up a can of worms way bigger than just taking a herb.   Sajah Popham: (24:14) Oh yeah. Really good question. It brings multiple points to mind, the first of which is that no one herb is right for everyone. I think one of the things with... Well, let me backtrack a little. I think one of the things that's important to understand about, I would say all traditional systems and models of herbal medicine, is that there's always a context within which a plant is taken into the human body. And most traditions that utilise plants as herbs are just using herbs. They're also implementing diet and nutrition as a major part of their medical practise. And I think this is a critical facet that I think is overlooked often. And no one likes it when I say that, because everyone just wants the magic bullet. If we want them to take the three drops of the tincture and all of your ails and problems are just going to magically disappear and you don't have to change. And I think that's the big piece here is that we all want a quick fix and we want to have a healthy life, but maybe we don't want to change the way we live our life that has led us to the particular state of health or lack of health that we currently have.   Sajah Popham: (25:42) And so that's one thing that I always encourage my students and people that I talk to about herbs is if the root cause of, say someone has a chronic digestive symptom, for me, I'm not going to give them some peppermint or fennel or some bitters. I'm going to do a really in-depth assessment of like, "What are you eating every day that might be contributing to this problem? Because it doesn't matter how many herbs I give you. If you eat something that's upsetting your digestive system, am I really helping you by giving you herbs? Actually I could be enabling you to continue living an unhealthy lifestyle that could lead to a deeper, more serious issue in the long term." So for me, it's always taking a step back and looking at someone's overall lifestyle and doing that detective work of like, "Okay, what is it that they're doing that might be contributing to this?" Of course we use herbs to help, but the herbs, aren't just the sole focus of it.   Sajah Popham: (26:51) The sole focus is giving people strategies ultimately for how they can optimise living in a very healthy way. So that's the first point that comes to mind. Second point that comes to mind for sure, this is one thing that comes up for me. It's one of my little pet peeves in the herb world and it's the question that I always get, "Oh, what's that herb good for?" To me, I think of plants like people, and that's just the way that I tend to think of them. And I always jokingly say, whenever I talk about this, I say, "You'd never go up to someone when you first meet someone and be like, "Oh, hey. My name's Sajah. What's your name? Oh, Hey Bill. Oh. So what are you good for?" You know, with like, we would never say that to someone but we say it about the plants all the time. And so to me, I'm less concerned about what a plant is good for. I'm more concerned about who that plant is.   Mason: (27:53) Can I just point, Sajah, when you bring that up, I don't know whether this is a bit glum, but I think there was a time when humans would talk about other humans that way. And there are probably times when we want to be moving, like humans want to be learning from or moving on from, and I feel like this really brings into that whole, it's that the herbs are working for us. That slave mentality rather than an actual unity, right?   Sajah Popham: (28:19) Totally. And to me it's like... And I think that's the thing that it's easy to get stuck in the world of herbal medicine, especially in the realm of, you had mentioned the Chinese tonic herbs and there's this whole world of products, basically a product industry, a multi-billion dollar product industry that says, "Hey, take these herbs and you'll have more energy and you'll sleep better and you'll have a better mood and you'll be smarter and run faster. And everything is going to be okay and you don't have to change. And this herb is good for everyone or this herb is good for this or good for that." And what ends up happening is we lack specificity in our practise of herbal medicine.   Sajah Popham: (29:18) So this brings me to talking about traditionally, when a traditional herbalist looks at someone and here I'm really referring to traditional Western herbalism, to Chinese medicine, Ayurvedic medicine, things like that. They always understand the uniqueness of the person in front of them. So they're not saying, "Oh, this person has a urinary tract infection. Okay, let's give them all of these herbs that are good for a urinary tract infection." They're going to say, "Oh, here's a unique person with a unique type of urinary tract infection. And we want to select those herbs that are going to be specifically suitable for this unique person with this unique condition." And this is one of my problems with the use this herb for that symptom mindset, is that it often times lacks this level of specificity. And one of the simple ways that we can get more specific is looking at people and plants through an energetic lens, meaning what is the temperature and the moisture quality of the symptom and of that plant?   Sajah Popham: (30:40) So take a respiratory tract infection. This is usually one of the easiest organ systems for people to really understand the importance of energetics. Say you've got two different people and from a Western perspective, they both have, say, bronchitis or some respiratory tract infection. And one person, when you hear them cough, it sounds really dry and really wheezy and really harsh and intense, and they've got a bright red face and their tongues really red, and they feel really overheated. The other person say when they cough, it sounds really gurgly and wet and cold, and they feel a bit pale and they feel cold and their tongue is white and has a thick coating and pale. And when they do expectorate something, it's got a thick white pasty look to it.   Sajah Popham: (31:39) This is the difference between what we would call basically a hot-dry cough versus a cold damp cough. Now, if we think of the way a lot of herbalists are trained, they say, "Oh, this person has bronchitis. They have a cough. So we want to give them an expectorant." And the expectorant category herbs are just, those that support the cough reflex and are typically used to treat respiratory tract type infections. And in that whole category. So you go to your herb book and you look up expectorants and in that category, and I might list herbs that maybe you all don't use there in Australia, but here in North America, you might see herbs like Lobelia, and Osha, and Lomatia, wild cherry and Coltsfoot and licorice, and marshmallow and pleurisy root and Elecampane. These are all herbs under the expectorant category. And someone might just say, "Okay, we'll just pick some expectorants because these are all herbs that are good for a cough, right?"   Sajah Popham: (32:43) But if you look at that list, you see marshmallow root right next to Lobelia right next to something like Elecampane. These are three very different types of expectorants. If you give the marshmallow root to the person with a cold damp cough, it's going to make it worse because marshmallow is a very moistening demulcent type remedy. If you give it to the person with the hot, dry cough, they're going to love you forever because it's going to soothe and cool, everything down and moisten the dried mucus membrane, and really feel very supportive for them. Conversely, if you give the Elecampane to someone with the hot, dry cough, it's going to be very aggravating because Elecampane has these pungent hot oils and resins that are very stimulating and can be very irritating to someone with too much heat and too much dryness in the respiratory tract. But to give it to them with the cold damp cough, and it's going to help loosen up all that phlegm, it's going to make the cough more productive, it's going to stimulate the bronchial tree and the mucosal membranes to clear all of that damp stagnation out of the tissues.   Sajah Popham: (33:58) I like to mention that because there's deeper layers of specificity with herbal medicines. And I think it's very important to match the herbs to the person. And this is where we start to run into some problems where they say, "Oh, this herb is good for this condition." That's what can lead to herbs, maybe being used haphazardly, herbs, as you said, that might actually lead to further imbalance if it's not suitable for that person's constitution. And that's where, to me, this integration of herbal energetics is super critical if we're going to practise holistic herbal medicine. And really it's like... The energetics was practised in Western herbal medicine all the way up to the early 1900s.   Sajah Popham: (34:56) It's really over the last 100 years or so that we see as this biomedical model has come into place. As we focus more on constituents, as we focus more on the chemistry and such, I think we've lost touch with some of these traditional models of looking at herbs. And I'm all about both. I'm not trying to bash the science in any ways. I think that's all great, super useful, and we know more about some herbal medicines than we have ever before and how they work. It's great stuff, but I don't think we have to throw away thousands of years of accumulated knowledge.   Mason: (35:38) I hear you on that one. And I already am looking at the name of your company, Organic Unity, I mean, having a unity spec there in the middle, I love it because you find an integrated model. I mean, there's a lot of people talking about integration which is amazing. And I like looking at that more and more because it gives me... For me, it gives me something to attune to, and I can really... When I get into my envisioning of my dreaming of where I'm moving towards an integrated model, I just see. As you were saying, because growing up, I know how much looking at constituents and looking at the chemistry of say in this example of a herb, how useful it is.   Mason: (36:17) And in fact rather than... Because what I did for a while there is I kicked back completely against like a modern medical or modern scientific model just because I'm just like, "It's the devil. I don't want to be identified with it in any way." And so I tried to kick back and identify being someone who doesn't identify with the modern science and medical system, which was just a mess, rather than being a nice, calm, centred person who was just like, "I'm just going to contemplate where this has led me in for me." As you were saying, we can understand so much of what herbs are doing within the body chemically. That can be a catalyst for me in considering deeper and more subtle energetic actions that the herb has within different layers of the body. Have you experienced that dance between those two polars?   Sajah Popham: (37:23) In terms of the chemistry and the more subtle properties?   Mason: (37:28) Yeah.   Sajah Popham: (37:30) Yeah, absolutely. For me, because I was predominantly initially trained in the scientific model, the last number of years for me has been becoming more aware of that connection between really learning the herb from the herb itself, even just through tasting it. One thing I like to talk about is we can understand an herb really almost all the way through simply by tasting it and by understanding what happens through the different properties of those tastes. So for example, you taste something that's very pungent and spicy and hot that typically will stimulate digestive secretions, have a carminative action, typically stimulate circulation of the blood. Oftentimes they're very warming, energetically, oftentimes drying energetically versus you taste something very bitter that typically indicates that it's gonna act upon the liver and gallbladder, it's going to have a cooling drying, energetic action, typically draws the vital force down and in oftentimes have antiseptic properties.   Sajah Popham: (38:46) So we can really just through tasting the herbs, understanding the complexity of their tastes through being sensitive to our bodies, being able to be aware of our organ systems and how they're changing, being aware of even our mind and our emotions. For me, it's like when I take a herb, I really do my best to just be very aware of what's going on inside of the wholeness of my being. I really want to feel and understand how that plant is influencing the totality of who I am. And there was another thing that you mentioned there that I really appreciate. I feel like it can be so easy to really go against the modern medical paradigm and be like, "Well, screw those guys. They're poisoning everyone. I don't have any need for it." And I totally resonate with that. That's where I was too in my early 20s. I was just like, "Screw the system. I don't need any doctors or anything like that. I just need my herbs and I'm all good."   Sajah Popham: (39:58) And boy that really came back to me and bit me, because I got very sick in my early 20s with Lyme's disease and got faced with the decision of, "Okay, well, we caught it early. You can take some antibiotics and probably take care of this and clear it and not have Lymes disease." Or I could be very rigid in my paradigm and say, "Well, the hell with that. I'm just going to use my herbs, but potentially have Lyme's disease for the rest of my life."And then that was the moment where I realised that Western medicine does have its place because I took the antibiotics and you know what? They healed me. And that was a really big eye-opening experience for me and realising that do not be too extreme... Just for myself personally, I know this isn't for everyone, but for myself, I realised, I need to be able to see where things have their place and not to be too extreme, which I do have a tendency to be sometimes.   Sajah Popham: (41:03) So that was a really good learning experience for me to actually be healed by those pills that I was so against for so long. And of course for me, I'm predominantly working with the herbs for health maintenance and things like that. But I do feel that in those extreme situations, that Western medicine can be miraculous.   Mason: (41:25) That's so interesting. That's exactly the same thing that happened to me late last year. I had the dregs of my "fuck the system" really hanging on tight. And we were a month away roughly from due date of having our baby. And I went down with this tick, same thing and I went, "That's okay. Get on my herbs. I'll get on everything hard and I'll be fine." And after 10 days I'd had one up period where I was like, "Yeah, I think I'm getting this, I'm getting through this" and then smashed on my back and then had to... I sat there for a whole day meditating on it going, "Do you really want to mess with..." And everyone just saying as well, everyone would just stop the back of a couple of Lyme disease podcasts.   Mason: (42:19) So everyone is right up on that now, which is nice to everyone can be in on that conversation of hearing what these of symptoms are and what you're looking down the barrel of. If you too proud to realise that, "Hey, maybe something like doxycycline or whatever it is does have a place to come in." And it could be really... It's interesting because going into an extreme isn't in any sense, whether it's an extreme naturalist or extremist in terms of herbalism, where for me, I'm losing sight of usefulness of other areas of expertise or other people's passions. It really took me far off balance. So man, I'm with you 100% exact same experience in two days, all symptoms were gone. And then I didn't take my finger off the pulse as I'm sure you've probably gone about quite a solid cleanup mission after that, I'm sure.   Sajah Popham: (43:10) Yeah. So I would say about two years, it took me to get my digestive system back in balance. Because I was on doxycycline for about six weeks straight. And a boy that really rocked me for sure, but, I'm very grateful to it because I haven't been sick with Lyme disease since then.   Mason: (43:34) I found it really interesting because even I was on doxy for three and a bit weeks. Came off that little bit early because I felt that was just for me, I really felt that that was appropriate and it was the time to do that. However, even I was looking into doxy before I took it and saying that it's one of these antibiotics that if there's any there are degrees of severity in which they wipe out the bacteria. But that even it's like a quick uptake in the small intestine. And even then they're like compared to others which get down deep and annihilate the bacterial colonies. Even then I've definitely experienced a setback, but in saying, you've had to spend two years really repollinating. It's amazing appreciation for the use of poison as medicine and that comes up in herbalism as well, right?   Sajah Popham: (44:33) Oh, absolutely. I mean, that's actually a pretty big premise of alchemy. The AHS said that the most powerful poisons in the world are also the most powerful medicines and the difference is in dosage and in preparation. So that's the one thing you see in more of the mineral and metallic works in alchemy that they will work with some of the most powerful poisons: mercury, antimony. And there are certain ways of preparing those poisons to make them into a medicine. And they say, like my teacher in alchemy, a man named Robert Bartlett. He makes a medicine from antimony called the Oil of Antimony. And he's seen that cure everything from cancer to all sorts of very serious sicknesses. And in alchemy they say, "The higher you climb the rungs of the ladder in alchemical works, the less medicines you need." And they say that you get to that point of creating what they call the universal medicines, that one medicine that will cure all things. And that's the way that they talk about the Oil of Antimony, but boy you prepare it wrong it's real toxic.   Mason: (45:53) Just one thing I don't want to leave the interview without talking to you about is this concept... East West medicine is beautifully ensconced, wouldn't you say in the herbal and the herbal scene with a lot of integrated doctors and a lot of allopathic doctors even taking on Eastern principles into their clinic. I don't know if you'd say that same thing, but do you agree that it's like getting some are getting more and more momentum?   Sajah Popham: (46:20) Yeah, absolutely. I think the concept of integrative medicine, bringing in... I think it really started with Chinese medicine really coming to the West and acupuncture becoming much more accepted. I think it's our generation now seeing Ayurvedic medicine becoming much more popularised, much more accepted, much more integrated. I absolutely see the Eastern and Western systems of medicine coming together. And that for me is a really beautiful thing because to me, it's like for me in my plant path, I've always been most interested in the universal principles. So whenever I'm studying I want to see what are the things that pop up all across the world that have withstood the test of time, so to speak? It's like if we see a principle in Ayurvedic medicine, that's also in Chinese medicine system, that's also in Greek medicine, that's also an Arabic medicine, that is also mentioned by Samuel Thompson in North America, that is also mentioned by an herbalist in the Amazon rainforest. It's like, okay, all these people are saying pretty much the same thing, there's got to be something to it. And so for me, that's always been my approach and why I really appreciate integrating these models is because it gives us new perspectives and it gives us a well-rounded understanding and really gives us those universal truths and principles of healing and rejuvenation about plants as well.   Mason: (48:22) And then for you, where did the North South aspect of herbalism and lifestyle come into play?   Sajah Popham: (48:33) Yeah, well, for me yeah. I was first introduced to the concept of what Michael Tierra calls Planetary Herbology, which is integrating Chinese and Ayurvedic principles into basically classifying Western herbal medicines in a similar way to the way they would in Ayurvedic medicine or in Chinese medicine, which is great. That's been a major foundation for how I work with plants. But as I was saying earlier, for me, there was always this spiritual connection to the plants. There was always a relationship to the plant itself that was very important to me. And one of the things that I've noticed in travelling both through North America and South America and have been very blessed with the opportunity to work with first nations people in both North and South America, is that I saw that the foundation of their whole model of herbal medicine for the healers themselves was based on their relationship with the plants.   Sajah Popham: (49:48) And they said, "Anytime you want to use an herbal medicine, you need to have a relationship with that plant. You need to know that plant and that plant needs to know you." And so for me, the integration of East and West is incredible. And I think it gives us an amazing model for clinical practise. I think it gives us an incredible means for understanding people in more depth and how to effectively formulate and administer herbal medicines to people. But the North and South piece for me is really the foundation of all of it because it's that direct relationship, it's that direct knowing with the plants themselves that really is the foundation of herbal medicine. I always say it's like we can think back to the first human beings ever to exist on planet earth and think of who was the first teacher of herbal medicine?   Sajah Popham: (50:54) Well, it was the plants themselves. And that's something that I really want to come back to in my own work. And I really see that in a big way in the herbal medicine world is people don't want to just learn them from a book. People want to touch it and taste it and see it and sit with it. And they want to have a vision with it. They want to have a dream with it. They want to have this deeper connection, this deeper relationship to the plants. And to me, that's what the plant path is all about. It's like as an herbalist, it's like we're moving through our road of life. And as we go through our own challenges, our own sickness, our own difficulties on this road of life, different plants will make themselves known to us. And as we learn those plants, we make a good relation with that plant.   Sajah Popham: (51:48) It's almost like that plant becomes a part of who we are and we carry that plant inside of us. And it is so much more than just a plant. It's like our friend. It's our ally, it's our guide. It's our protector. It's something that we turn to in our time of need. And when someone else comes to us and ask for that help, it's like the plants have authorised us in a way to use them to help these people. So to me, the North and South model is a little bit more of a spiritual... I would say a little bit more of a spiritual perspective on herbal medicine that is really rooted in learning about the plants from the plants themselves and having a very good spiritual connection to them and having good relations with them.   Sajah Popham: (52:39) I remember when I was in the Amazon the last time I was on a plant walk with an herbalist and there's all these plants, we're in the Amazon, right? So it's all these plants and I'm so shocked to finally be seeing them. And I would be asking them a lot of questions like, "Oh, this plant how do you work with it? And what it tastes like? And what's it spirit like?" And I was asking them all these questions and he would always say, "Oh." Basically they would never answer my questions. They would just say, "Oh, you just need to die at that plant." And what they mean when they say you need to die at that plant is basically, you need to take a period of time in isolation and really restrict certain foods from your diet, basically eat a very bland diet and just ingest that plant for a prolonged period of time so that you are building that relationship and that connection and really getting to know that plant from the inside out. And they say that's how you learn in herbal medicine.   Sajah Popham: (53:53) They say, "If I tell you, it's not going to have as much power as compared to the plant telling you itself." And they'd say that the way you work with plants built up that way, there's something different about it. There's more power behind it. And that's where we really see these miraculous healings happen through the plants, so where people use a plant in a way that no one else uses it and it works for them. But if someone else was trying to do it, it may not work for them because they don't have that level of connection. So it's the North and South piece of it is... To me, it's a little bit of a more spiritual take on herbal medicine. That certainly is not for everyone, but I think for anyone that is serious about practising herbalism, I think just getting down to the simple piece of it. It's just important to have that good connection and relationship to the plants that you use. I'd rather know 20 plants really well, and have a very deep, good connection with them than know 200 plants superficially.   Mason: (55:11) Oh, beautiful man. I really heard you on that one, 100%. If people want to tune with you, you've got evolutionary herbalism there in Southern Oregon. Is that website the best way for people to find out about that?   Sajah Popham: (55:26) Yeah. You can go to evolutionaryherbalism.com. I've got my blog on there with lots of free videos and we do some more in-depth, free mini courses that are available there. All of our programmes are available online, so it's all distance learning format. And then we do have live workshops that go alongside with some of those programmes as well. And just started our own podcast this year called The Plant Path.   Mason: (55:53) Oh cool.   Sajah Popham: (55:54) So be sure to check that out to you and then our spagyric herbal extracts you can check that out at organic-unity.com.   Mason: (56:06) Man. I love it. Thanks so much for coming on today. I really enjoyed it and I've really got a lot out of it.   Sajah Popham: (56:12) Thank you very much. I really appreciate you inviting me on and then maybe we can do it again sometime.   Mason: (56:17) Beautiful. Peace man.   Sajah Popham: (56:18) All right. You take care.

The Magic of Mushroom Tinctures and Alchemy For years I've been testing different medicinal mushroom tinctures to see how they impact my health, energy, nerves, and creativity. I even started foraging wild mushrooms myself to make my own double-extract mushroom tinctures. However, my experience with the magic of mushrooms exploded when I discovered Jason Scott and his company Feral Fungi. Jason is a Mycologist, Ethnobotanist and Spagyricist who has also studied deep Alchemy, Ayurveda, and natural medicine philosophy around the world. In this episode, we explore: Jason's journey in combining alchemy and mycology, resulting in the accidental birth of the spagyric mushroom tinctures and his company Feral Fungi. The difference between common single-extract tinctures, double-extract tinctures, and spagyric tinctures. A breakdown of the different parts of a mushroom The benefits of using an alchemical approach, or spagyrics, when creating mushroom extractions The health benefits of medicinal mushroom extractions The importance of acknowledging and paying respect to the life force of mushrooms and natural medicine Kinky Links From the Episode FeralFungi.com - Use Code RAGECREATE to get 10% off Introduction to Spagyrics on Jason's website, Alchemycology.com Radical Mycology by Peter McCoy How to Get High Without Using Drugs 11 Biohacks to Beast Up Your Energy and Creativity

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It's easy when you first get started studying herbal medicine to just focus on the plants- after all, that's usually what gets us into herbalism to begin with- we love plants! But the plants are just one half of the "herbal equation." It's one thing to learn everything there is to know about herbs, to harvest them, grow them, and prepare them into medicines, but we have to pull back and remember the entire purpose of working with herbs to begin with: to heal someone. This necessitates that we balance our herbal studies with learning about people as well- they are the other half of the equation. This episode focuses on why studying people is equally important to studying plants to be a truly effective herbalist.  ———————————— CONNECT WITH SAJAH AND WHITNEY ———————————— To get free in depth mini-courses and videos, visit our blog at: http://www.evolutionaryherbalism.com Get daily inspiration and plant wisdom on our Facebook and Instagram channels: http://www.facebook.com/EvolutionaryHerbalism https://www.instagram.com/evolutionary_herbalism/ Be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyP63opAmcpIAQg1M9ShNSQ ———————————— ABOUT SAJAH ———————————— Sajah Popham, founder of Organic Unity and The School of Evolutionary Herbalism, is committed to creating a new paradigm of plant medicine anchored in herbal, medical, and spiritual traditions from around the world. His work integrates the science and spirit of herbal medicine, creating a system that is equally holistic, healing and transformational. His unique synthesis bridges herbalism not only east and west, but north & south, above & below, into a universal philosophy that encompasses indigenous wisdom, Ayurveda, western Alchemy and Spagyrics, Astrology, clinical herbalism, and modern pharmacology.  Sajah's vitalist approach utilizes plants not only for physical healing and rejuvenation, but for the evolution of consciousness. He never allopathicallyl focuses on just what a plant is “good for” but rather who the plants are as sentient beings. Sajah’s teachings embody a heartfelt respect, honor and reverence for the vast intelligence of plants in a way that empowers us to look deeper into the nature of our medicines and ourselves. He lives in southern Oregon with his wife where he teaches at his school, makes spagyric medicines, and practices his healing art. For more information about his products and programs, visit www.organic-unity.com & www.evolutionaryherbalism.com  ———————————— ABOUT THE PLANT PATH ———————————— The Plant Path provides unique perspectives for the modern practitioner of herbalism that doesn’t just want to “fix what’s broken” in the body, but seeks to serve others with deeper levels of healing and transformation with herbal medicines. A unique synergy of clinical herbalism, alchemy, medical astrology, and herbal traditions from around the world, The Plant Path focuses on giving you a truly “wholistic” perspective on herbal medicine so you never fall into the trap of allopathic herbalism.

In this episode of Never Stop Peaking, I navigate more key biohacks for increasing energy, health, and creativity. The first episode of this bio-hacking series is available here. Listen to the episode and download biohacking guide below to learn: How to rescue and restore your gut health with ION*BIOME. How to boost your immunity and digestive function with home-made fire cider. The power of triple-extract spagyric mushroom tinctures for all-around health. The benefit of replacing coffee with raw cacao. The power of ancient earth shilajit How to support your circadian rhythm. You can access the free biohacking guide and all of the links at: HeathArmstrong.com and HeathArmstrong.com/47 Sweet-Ass Affirmations: Motivation for Your Creative Maniac Mind

For episode #41 we welcome Alchemist Phoenix Aurelius to talk about his research into Paracelsus' and Spagyrics. I really enjoyed this show there was so much interesting territory to explore and we got into Alchemy and its place in the modern world. We discuss the similarities between Holographic and Hermitic models of reality and how that plays out via the Cartesian Split.   We get into Spirit Afflictions and the spiritual impacts of living with and in nature as opposed to living in domination over nature.  All good stuff!   In the Plus show we get into how gardening and a magickal practice lead eventually to kitchen experimentation and talk the practicalities and benefits of fermentation. We also discuss the problems with modern beer. If that sounds appealing head on over to the Patreon and you know the rest. Show notes: https://www.phoenixaurelius.org/ https://www.instagram.com/phoenixaurelius.alchemist/ https://www.facebook.com/PhoenixAurelius/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0qr4D7EGOknEgYNFzY66cA Keep in touch? TWITTER - https://twitter.com/spiritbox3  PLUS SHOW - https://www.patreon.com/spiritbox  YOUTUBE - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe7wDjqjIVyFDS9bxm1esBA Music by Obliqka - https://soundcloud.com/obliqka --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/spirit-box/message

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In this show, Sajah returns to continue our conversations in herbal alchemy.  I love talking with Sajah. Each time we talk, I feel I've recovered a lost part of myself.  I hope you have a similar experience.  He also has just opened enrollment to his Herbal Alchemy program. Link below. SIgn up to his Course: https://EvolutionaryHerbalismLLC.ontraport.com/t?orid=81639&opid=6   Support the Podcast HERE: www.Patreon.com/adamsommer

There's something that I've been thinking a lot about lately. I've been looking at the state of the world and everything that's been going on politically and culturally. With the fires that we've been having out here on the West Coast, it feels like things are heating up—literally—on planet earth right now. I've been thinking about human beings’ relationship to nature, our relationship to the earth, and the healing that is required of all of us right now, and I think the practice of herbal alchemy or spagyrics has great power and potency to bring healing to people. ———————————— CONNECT WITH SAJAH AND WHITNEY ———————————— To get free in depth mini-courses and videos, visit our blog at:  http://www.evolutionaryherbalism.com Get daily inspiration and plant wisdom on our Facebook and Instagram channels: http://www.facebook.com/EvolutionaryHerbalism https://www.instagram.com/evolutionary_herbalism/ Be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyP63opAmcpIAQg1M9ShNSQ ———————————— ABOUT SAJAH ———————————— Sajah Popham is the author of Evolutionary Herbalism and the founder of the School of Evolutionary Herbalism, where he trains herbalists in a holistic system of plant medicine that encompasses clinical western herbalism, medical astrology, Ayurveda, and spagyric alchemy. His mission is to develop a comprehensive approach that balances the science and spirituality of plant medicine, focusing on using plants to heal and rejuvenate the body, clarify the mind, open the heart, and support the development of the soul. Sajah’s approach honors and acknowledges the chemical, energetic, and spiritual properties of plants for a holistic model that uses the whole herb to heal the whole person. He lives on a homestead in the foothills of Mt. Baker Washington with his wife Whitney where he teaches, consults clients, and prepares spagyric herbal medicines.  ———————————— ABOUT THE PLANT PATH ———————————— The Plant Path provides unique perspectives for the modern practitioner of herbalism that doesn’t just want to “fix what’s broken” in the body, but seeks to serve others with deeper levels of healing and transformation with herbal medicines.  A unique synergy of clinical herbalism, alchemy, medical astrology, and herbal traditions from around the world, The Plant Path focuses on giving you a truly “wholistic” perspective on herbal medicine so you never fall into the trap of allopathic herbalism.  ———————————— WANT TO FEATURE US ON YOUR PODCAST? ———————————— If you’d like to interview Sajah or Whitney to be on your podcast, click here to fill out an interview request form.

In this episode, I arrive at the headquarters of Feral Fungi and have an amazing discussion with modern alchemist, mycologist, spagyricist and much more: Jason Scott. We talk about the history and modern application of alchemy, the spagyric process, and the magic of mushrooms! Join Us...Jason Scott is a Mycologist, Ethnobotanist and Spagyricist who has studied traditional Hermetic Alchemy, from history and philosophy to practice, for the past 9 years. He has a background in Ethnobotany and Plant Medicine that started on the Big Island of Hawaii, and has carried back with him into his home: the Pacific Northwest. Born and raised in Oregon, Jason has an intrinsic interest in the Fungal Queendom and all of its aspects: from cultivation and mycoremediation, to historical and cultural relationships. Jason has studied various different healing modalities including Ayurveda in Nepal and Western Herbalism all over Oregon and Washington. He is on an ever-deepening journey of education to understand the practical applications of his interests, and the golden threads that connect them. Jason has been published on the topic of AlcheMycology, exploring fungi through traditional Alchemy in Radical Mycology by Peter McCoy and Verdant Gnosis Volume 3, compiled by Jenn Zahrt, Catamara Rosarium, and Marcus McCoy. He has taught through these topics all over the United States. He is the Founder and Owner of Feral Fungi where he produces Mushroom Spagyric Tinctures, and curator of AlcheMycology.com where he shares some of his teachings and writings along side other fascinating discoveries in the world of Fungi.www.feralfungi.com See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

In this week's blog post, we have a question from a student that I thought would be good to share with the greater Evolutionary Herbalism community. The question is about integrating a spiritual approach to your work with your clients, specifically in regards to praying with and for your clients.  This isn't something that I talk that much about, but it’s actually a critically important part of my own personal work that I do with clients. We can do this with people in a way that is authentic, that doesn't make people feel uncomfortable, and that’s honoring and uplifting and encouraging and supportive for the person that you're working with. ———————————— CONNECT WITH SAJAH AND WHITNEY ———————————— To get free in-depth mini-courses and videos, visit our blog at: http://www.evolutionaryherbalism.com Get daily inspiration and plant wisdom on our Facebook and Instagram channels: http://www.facebook.com/EvolutionaryHerbalism https://www.instagram.com/evolutionary_herbalism/ Be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyP63opAmcpIAQg1M9ShNSQ ———————————— ABOUT SAJAH ———————————— Sajah Popham, founder of Organic Unity and The School of Evolutionary Herbalism, is committed to creating a new paradigm of plant medicine anchored in herbal, medical, and spiritual traditions from around the world. His work integrates the science and spirit of herbal medicine, creating a system that is equally holistic, healing and transformational. His unique synthesis bridges herbalism not only east and west, but north & south, above & below, into a universal philosophy that encompasses indigenous wisdom, Ayurveda, western Alchemy and Spagyrics, Astrology, clinical herbalism, and modern pharmacology.  Sajah's vitalist approach utilizes plants not only for physical healing and rejuvenation, but for the evolution of consciousness. He never allopathicallyl focuses on just what a plant is “good for” but rather who the plants are as sentient beings. Sajah’s teachings embody a heartfelt respect, honor and reverence for the vast intelligence of plants in a way that empowers us to look deeper into the nature of our medicines and ourselves. He lives in southern Oregon with his wife where he teaches at his school, makes spagyric medicines, and practices his healing art. For more information about his products and programs, visit www.organic-unity.com & www.evolutionaryherbalism.com  ———————————— ABOUT THE PLANT PATH ———————————— The Plant Path provides unique perspectives for the modern practitioner of herbalism that doesn’t just want to “fix what’s broken” in the body, but seeks to serve others with deeper levels of healing and transformation with herbal medicines. A unique synergy of clinical herbalism, alchemy, medical astrology, and herbal traditions from around the world, The Plant Path focuses on giving you a truly “wholistic” perspective on herbal medicine so you never fall into the trap of allopathic herbalism.

One of the primary elements of understanding the energetics or constitution of a person is temperature—whether someone runs really hot or runs really cold. Sometimes it can be a little confusing in terms of how you actually assess that. What are the core determining factors that you're looking at in a person to be able to tell whether they're hot or cold, either constitutionally or in their current symptomatic picture? This week we’re going to cover this dynamic that’s important to understand with every person that you work with. ———————————— CONNECT WITH SAJAH AND WHITNEY ———————————— To get free in depth mini-courses and videos, visit our blog at: http://www.evolutionaryherbalism.com Get daily inspiration and plant wisdom on our Facebook and Instagram channels: http://www.facebook.com/EvolutionaryHerbalism https://www.instagram.com/evolutionary_herbalism/ Be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyP63opAmcpIAQg1M9ShNSQ ———————————— ABOUT SAJAH ———————————— Sajah Popham, founder of Organic Unity and The School of Evolutionary Herbalism, is committed to creating a new paradigm of plant medicine anchored in herbal, medical, and spiritual traditions from around the world. His work integrates the science and spirit of herbal medicine, creating a system that is equally holistic, healing and transformational. His unique synthesis bridges herbalism not only east and west, but north & south, above & below, into a universal philosophy that encompasses indigenous wisdom, Ayurveda, western Alchemy and Spagyrics, Astrology, clinical herbalism, and modern pharmacology.  Sajah's vitalist approach utilizes plants not only for physical healing and rejuvenation, but for the evolution of consciousness. He never allopathicallyl focuses on just what a plant is “good for” but rather who the plants are as sentient beings. Sajah’s teachings embody a heartfelt respect, honor and reverence for the vast intelligence of plants in a way that empowers us to look deeper into the nature of our medicines and ourselves. He lives in southern Oregon with his wife where he teaches at his school, makes spagyric medicines, and practices his healing art. For more information about his products and programs, visit www.organic-unity.com & www.evolutionaryherbalism.com  ———————————— ABOUT THE PLANT PATH ———————————— The Plant Path provides unique perspectives for the modern practitioner of herbalism that doesn’t just want to “fix what’s broken” in the body, but seeks to serve others with deeper levels of healing and transformation with herbal medicines. A unique synergy of clinical herbalism, alchemy, medical astrology, and herbal traditions from around the world, The Plant Path focuses on giving you a truly “wholistic” perspective on herbal medicine so you never fall into the trap of allopathic herbalism.

This week, we have a very interesting question that comes up from time to time in regard to whether an herb can actually work like an antibiotic and the possible benefits and risks in terms of using herbs to treat pathogenic infections. This is a pretty relevant topic these days as we are in the midst of the COVID 19 situation. I’m seeing more and more people reaching out to plants as a way of strengthening their immune system and wanting to look at antiviral and antibacterial herbs and how to protect themselves and their family. So we’re going to be talking about antiseptic or antimicrobial plants and weighing their benefits and risks.  We’ll also have a really excellent discussion in terms of the difference between how an herbal medicine works in contrast to how a lot of pharmaceutical medications, and specifically antibiotics, work in the human organism.  This week, we have a very interesting question that comes up from time to time in regard to whether an herb can actually work like an antibiotic and the possible benefits and risks in terms of using herbs to treat pathogenic infections. This is a pretty relevant topic these days as we are in the midst of the COVID 19 situation. I’m seeing more and more people reaching out to plants as a way of strengthening their immune system and wanting to look at antiviral and antibacterial herbs and how to protect themselves and their family. So we’re going to be talking about antiseptic or antimicrobial plants and weighing their benefits and risks.  We’ll also have a really excellent discussion in terms of the difference between how an herbal medicine works in contrast to how a lot of pharmaceutical medications, and specifically antibiotics, work in the human organism.  ———————————— CONNECT WITH SAJAH AND WHITNEY ———————————— To get free in-depth mini-courses and videos, visit our blog at: http://www.evolutionaryherbalism.com Get daily inspiration and plant wisdom on our Facebook and Instagram channels: http://www.facebook.com/EvolutionaryHerbalism https://www.instagram.com/evolutionary_herbalism/ Be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyP63opAmcpIAQg1M9ShNSQ ———————————— ABOUT SAJAH ———————————— Sajah Popham, founder of Organic Unity and The School of Evolutionary Herbalism, is committed to creating a new paradigm of plant medicine anchored in herbal, medical, and spiritual traditions from around the world. His work integrates the science and spirit of herbal medicine, creating a system that is equally holistic, healing and transformational. His unique synthesis bridges herbalism not only east and west, but north & south, above & below, into a universal philosophy that encompasses indigenous wisdom, Ayurveda, western Alchemy and Spagyrics, Astrology, clinical herbalism, and modern pharmacology.  Sajah's vitalist approach utilizes plants not only for physical healing and rejuvenation, but for the evolution of consciousness. He never allopathicallyl focuses on just what a plant is “good for” but rather who the plants are as sentient beings. Sajah’s teachings embody a heartfelt respect, honor and reverence for the vast intelligence of plants in a way that empowers us to look deeper into the nature of our medicines and ourselves. He lives in southern Oregon with his wife where he teaches at his school, makes spagyric medicines, and practices his healing art. For more information about his products and programs, visit www.organic-unity.com & www.evolutionaryherbalism.com  ———————————— ABOUT THE PLANT PATH ———————————— The Plant Path provides unique perspectives for the modern practitioner of herbalism that doesn’t just want to “fix what’s broken” in the body, but seeks to serve others with deeper levels of healing and transformation with herbal medicines. A unique synergy of clinical herbalism, alchemy, medical astrology, and herbal traditions from around the world, The Plant Path focuses on giving you a truly “wholistic” perspective on herbal medicine so you never fall into the trap of allopathic herbalism.

Crrow777 is a regular guy who's spent a lot of time behind a telescope, shooting the moon and other aerial objects. In recent years, he's become a podcast host where he challenges many ideas that most people take for granted, especially the idea of where we are and what this realm might be. In this episode we talk about some of the discoveries he's made and filmed, we point out some of the obvious lies from NASA, internet censorship and free speech, and plenty more.In the Plus+ Extension, we get into Spagyrics and Alchemy, which is healthier living through nature, problems with the western medical model, why scientific materialism is letting us down, and the importance of the great conjunction occurring at the end of this year, according to the Sky Clock (astro-logos). JOIN INNERVERSE PLUS+Support the show & subscribe to hear the 2nd half of this episode and unlock the archive of extended shows!https://www.patreon.com/innerverseVIDEO VERSION OF THIS EPISODEhttps://youtu.be/ikj5NPPX78cLINKSCrrow's Website - https://www.crrow777radio.comThe Lunar Wave - https://youtu.be/_3axPn65MGMShoot The Moon (Documentary) - https://vimeo.com/ondemand/shootthemoon/328720640 Biofield Tuning Episode on Crrow777 Radio - https://www.crrow777radio.com/229-tuning-the-human-bio-field-in-a-world-driven-by-cartunes-free/ MUSIC IN THIS EPISODEIntro: "Foggy Dreams" by Wisdom Traders Outro: "Higher Selves" - by QwillA See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Today's guest, Phoenix Aurelius, is a self-taught Spagyrist who has been practicing and teaching the Alchemical Arts & Sciences since 2005. One of his highest stated goals is reconstructing Spagyric Theory, Philosophy, Practice, & Pharmacopoeia for the 21st Century. He runs the Phoenix Aurelius Research Academy, which offers courses, materials, and his handmade tinctures.  All can be found @ phoenixaurelius.org    

In this special issue of The Plant Path, Whitney interviews Lucy Jones, author of Self-Sufficient Herbalism. This book couldn't be coming out at a more important time, when as herbalists we really need to take a step back and look at how sustainable and self-sufficient we are (or aren't). Do we really take responsibility for the herbs we use to help people and work with them directly? Or are we overly reliant on big supplement and herbal companies to supply all of our remedies? This became really apparent during the first big shut down from Coronavirus... it was almost impossible to get herbs anywhere! The big supplement and herb companies weren't shipping herbs because they shut down, and many others were out of stock of a large majority of their inventory.  I think this can be a little bit of a wake up call for us herbalists to really think about where our herbs come from and how we can be more directly involved in the plants we give to the people we heal by harvesting, growing, and preparing them ourselves.  That's exactly what Lucy Jones covers in her book Self-Sufficient Herbalism, and what she and Whitney dig into in this interview. Grab a copy of the book right here if you're in the US or here if you're in the UK. ———————————— CONNECT WITH SAJAH AND WHITNEY ———————————— To get free in depth mini-courses and videos, visit our blog at: http://www.evolutionaryherbalism.com Get daily inspiration and plant wisdom on our Facebook and Instagram channels: http://www.facebook.com/EvolutionaryHerbalism https://www.instagram.com/evolutionary_herbalism/ Be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyP63opAmcpIAQg1M9ShNSQ ———————————— ABOUT SAJAH ———————————— Sajah Popham, founder of Organic Unity and The School of Evolutionary Herbalism, is committed to creating a new paradigm of plant medicine anchored in herbal, medical, and spiritual traditions from around the world. His work integrates the science and spirit of herbal medicine, creating a system that is equally holistic, healing and transformational. His unique synthesis bridges herbalism not only east and west, but north & south, above & below, into a universal philosophy that encompasses indigenous wisdom, Ayurveda, western Alchemy and Spagyrics, Astrology, clinical herbalism, and modern pharmacology.  Sajah's vitalist approach utilizes plants not only for physical healing and rejuvenation, but for the evolution of consciousness. He never allopathicallyl focuses on just what a plant is “good for” but rather who the plants are as sentient beings. Sajah’s teachings embody a heartfelt respect, honor and reverence for the vast intelligence of plants in a way that empowers us to look deeper into the nature of our medicines and ourselves. He lives in southern Oregon with his wife where he teaches at his school, makes spagyric medicines, and practices his healing art. For more information about his products and programs, visit www.organic-unity.com & www.evolutionaryherbalism.com  ———————————— ABOUT THE PLANT PATH ———————————— The Plant Path provides unique perspectives for the modern practitioner of herbalism that doesn’t just want to “fix what’s broken” in the body, but seeks to serve others with deeper levels of healing and transformation with herbal medicines. A unique synergy of clinical herbalism, alchemy, medical astrology, and herbal traditions from around the world, The Plant Path focuses on giving you a truly “wholistic” perspective on herbal medicine so you never fall into the trap of allopathic herbalism.

In this special episode of The Plant Path, I interviewed naturopath, herbalist, nutritionist, and medical astrologer Kira Sutherland. Kira's been a clinical practitioner for over 20 years and the use of her client's birth chart has been one of her primary tools for holistic assessment and providing insights into how to best navigate her cases.  This conversation was really exciting, as Kira lays out her process for using the astrological chart to help her clients by assessing their constitution, finding the root causes of their health concerns, how to find the right remedy, and even how she talks to them and creates her protocols.  Here's where to find Kira online: https://astrologyofhealth.com/ https://www.facebook.com/astrologyofhealth/ https://www.instagram.com/astrologyofhealth/ ———————————— CONNECT WITH SAJAH AND WHITNEY ———————————— To get free in depth mini-courses and videos, visit our blog at: http://www.evolutionaryherbalism.com Get daily inspiration and plant wisdom on our Facebook and Instagram channels: http://www.facebook.com/EvolutionaryHerbalism https://www.instagram.com/evolutionary_herbalism/ Be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyP63opAmcpIAQg1M9ShNSQ ———————————— ABOUT SAJAH ———————————— Sajah Popham, founder of Organic Unity and The School of Evolutionary Herbalism, is committed to creating a new paradigm of plant medicine anchored in herbal, medical, and spiritual traditions from around the world. His work integrates the science and spirit of herbal medicine, creating a system that is equally holistic, healing and transformational. His unique synthesis bridges herbalism not only east and west, but north & south, above & below, into a universal philosophy that encompasses indigenous wisdom, Ayurveda, western Alchemy and Spagyrics, Astrology, clinical herbalism, and modern pharmacology.  Sajah's vitalist approach utilizes plants not only for physical healing and rejuvenation, but for the evolution of consciousness. He never allopathically focuses on just what a plant is “good for” but rather who the plants are as sentient beings. Sajah’s teachings embody a heartfelt respect, honor and reverence for the vast intelligence of plants in a way that empowers us to look deeper into the nature of our medicines and ourselves. He lives in southern Oregon with his wife where he teaches at his school, makes spagyric medicines, and practices his healing art. For more information about his products and programs, visit www.organic-unity.com & www.evolutionaryherbalism.com  ———————————— ABOUT THE PLANT PATH ———————————— The Plant Path provides unique perspectives for the modern practitioner of herbalism that doesn’t just want to “fix what’s broken” in the body, but seeks to serve others with deeper levels of healing and transformation with herbal medicines. A unique synergy of clinical herbalism, alchemy, medical astrology, and herbal traditions from around the world, The Plant Path focuses on giving you a truly “wholistic” perspective on herbal medicine so you never fall into the trap of allopathic herbalism.