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Please welcome back Grant Newsham, retired marine colonel and author of When China Attacks,  A Warning to America. Grant came on the show to discuss the state of the Japan Defense Forces and the PRC threat.  This is a two-part episode. Grant's biography: https://centerforsecuritypolicy.org/author/grant-newsham/ Book link: https://www.regnery.com/9781684513659/when-china-attacks/ A recent article: https://andmagazine.substack.com/p/the-us-in-the-pacific-getting-the?utm_source=substack&publication_id=746580&post_id=151553726&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&utm_campaign=email-share&triggerShare=true&isFreemail=true&r=ercjf&triedRedirect=true --- One CA is a product of the civil affairs association  and brings in people who are current or former military, diplomats, development officers, and field agents to discuss their experiences on the ground with a partner nation's people and leadership. We aim to inspire anyone interested in working in the "last three feet" of U.S. foreign relations.  To contact the show, email us at CApodcasting@gmail.com  or look us up on the Civil Affairs Association website at www civilaffairsassoc.org --- Special thanks to the site Cool Jazz Hot Bossa for the sample of Cool Jazz Hot Bossa. (59:00). Retrieved from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdWUj2NYDYQ --- Transcript: (Part I) 00:00:05 JACK GAINES Welcome to the 1CA Podcast. This is your host, Jack Gaines. 1CA is a product of the Civil Affairs Association and brings in people who are current or former military, diplomats, development officers, and field agents to discuss their experiences on ground with the partner nation's people and leadership. Our goal is to inspire anyone interested in working the last three feet of foreign relations. To contact the show, email us at capodcasting@gmail.com. Or look us up on the Civil Affairs Association website at www.civilaffairsassoc.org. I'll have those in the show notes. Please welcome Grant Newsham, retired Marine Colonel and author of When China Attacks, A Warning to America. Grant came on the show to discuss the state of the Japan Defense Forces and the PRC threat. This is the first of a two-part episode, so let's get started. 00:00:56 GRANT NEWSHAM I was effectively MarforPak's guy in Asia for a number of years. which worked well in both directions. So I was obviously in Japan, but also did a lot of work for them throughout the region, Southeast Asia as well, Taiwan even, which was a lot of fun. 00:01:13 JACK GAINES Yeah. And you've become a foreign policy advocate in the area. 00:01:16 GRANT NEWSHAM Yeah. At some point, maybe seven or eight years ago, figured I'd actually done enough stuff to maybe have a few ideas. So I started writing and speak a lot as well. So I guess I'm part of the commentariat. But I seem to write about once a week some topic related to often Asian defense, but sometimes economics, politics, sometimes organized crime. And I do get invited to speak here and there and seem to get a number of television or radio interviews as well. That's really cool. I didn't say I get invited to good things, but I do get the occasional invitation. I used to think it was because I had such insight. Someone told me not all that long ago that actually, if you'll say yes to an interview, you're likely to get more of them. Because the people who book them, they just want to get somebody on. And I thought it was because of my particular wisdom. 00:02:07 JACK GAINES of my particular wisdom. 00:02:09 GRANT NEWSHAM I'm joking a little bit. But obviously, you must have something useful to say. But it is funny. There's one place in Singapore that calls me a lot. It's like their CNN. And they've been calling me. Probably eight years at least, or almost every time, I'll tell the presenters that basically they don't know what they're talking about. And I always think, well, this is the last one, but they keep calling me up. They mislike you because you're the contrarian. 00:02:34 JACK GAINES mislike you because you're the contrarian. 00:02:36 GRANT NEWSHAM Oh, I can blame things in a way that sort of suits broadcast and that sort of regular people can understand, you know, 00:02:42 GRANT NEWSHAM that sort of regular people can understand, you know, being a regular person myself. 00:02:47 JACK GAINES Yeah, you learn to disagree without offending. 00:02:49 GRANT NEWSHAM Usually. And it's always sort of a relief, actually, when you can have a different look at things. 00:02:56 JACK GAINES That's good. I always thought you were going to say it is a relief sometimes when you just peel the coat off and then yell at them. 00:03:02 GRANT NEWSHAM The facts speak for themselves. Right. And if it's a presenter, their role is different, and they will generally not have the substantive knowledge that most of the people on the show will have. Right. And so much of what I have to say is often not... in line with accepted wisdom, particularly when it comes to Japan. Sure. So it's often that I'll have to present a different take on things, but they don't seem to be offended. 00:03:27 JACK GAINES Right. You mostly talk about Japan in its current defense fashion or in its foreign policy actions. 00:03:33 GRANT NEWSHAM A lot of that because people have a perception of Japan, for example, as a pacifist country. It cannot fight. It's peace loving. Right. etc. They have a nuclear allergy. You know, just the idea of nuclear weapons in Japan is out of the question. You often hear, well, their constitution won't let them fight. And none of those things are actually true. But it's the received wisdom. It's what people think. And when you simply point out the realities of Japan, that ultimately, at the end of the day, it's a country just like every other. And that the stereotypes about it really aren't correct when it comes to defense security. In fact, they use that the Constitution won't let them have a military. You probably heard it. Yeah. That's the idea. And they don't even call it a military. But the fact is they've got a military, which, according to some ratings, is the fifth most powerful in the world. It depends on how you calculate it, of course. But they call it something else. And what is the actual distinction between offensive and defensive weapons? 00:04:35 JACK GAINES It's usually the strike space. If it's inside your own country defending, then it's a defense space. Once you go out and start taking out other people's cities and moving forces in. 00:04:44 GRANT NEWSHAM Well, for example, they don't have much what you call power projection capability very far off their borders. But they do have a submarine fleet, say over 20 submarines. There's no reason you couldn't send them to the coast of China and start sinking ships. 00:04:59 JACK GAINES True. 00:05:00 GRANT NEWSHAM They've got F -16s. You can put long -range missiles on them and you can fly out of ways and cause people a lot of trouble. But their military really, I would say, is not so good at offense. It's not so good at defense either. And that's something that comes as a surprise to a lot of people. 00:05:15 JACK GAINES Well, do they exercise defense and offense? 00:05:18 GRANT NEWSHAM Oh, they have exercises, training, and they put on a pretty good show, particularly when they have visitors come. But they really, until very recently, and even now, they can't do joint operations, which means the air, sea, and ground forces. can't operate together. In fact, they don't even have a radio with which they can communicate easily. They have to jury -rig some relations, these connections. And that's something most people don't understand, because you look at it on paper. Japan has 250 ,000 people in its military, and it's got ships, aircraft, all of it modern and good stuff. 150 ,000 people in its ground self -defense force, their army. But it's not even the sum of its whole. If you imagine each of your limbs, your arms and your legs, each doing whatever it wants without the coordinating function provided by a brain. 00:06:10 JACK GAINES Sounds like me dancing. 00:06:12 GRANT NEWSHAM It would be, yeah. I think that I can picture that, whereas I'm more of an Arthur Murray kind of guy. But it's like that. And nobody can believe that because they think, well, this is the Japanese. It's this advanced modern country, big military, the rich country. And I mean, they can't even do these simple things. Right. The short answer is no, except in some limited circumstances. After 60 years of the U .S.-Japan defense relationship, 80 years after World War II, they still cannot do some of the basic things that a military needs to do, or do them very well, put it that way. But they do train, they exercise, the personnel quality is excellent. You know, we tend to say, well, we've got Japan as our ally, Japan has a military. But the reality is that the U .S. and Japanese forces cannot work very well together. There's one exception, and that's the two navies. The U .S. Navy and the Japanese Navy, called the Maritime Self -Defense Force, they actually do work well. And they show what's doable. 00:07:15 JACK GAINES They probably do dynamic exercises as well as structured ones, so they have to change, have to practice new orders and maneuvers. 00:07:22 GRANT NEWSHAM Well, the nature of naval operations is you can go out... into the sea, and you have more freedom to actually do stuff. But part of it actually was when Admiral Arleigh Burke, who was later chief of naval operations for many years, he was in charge in Japan. He basically laid down the ground rules, which was that the American Navy was going to treat the Japanese like friends, like allies. And that set the tone for everything. So they had a more relationship of equals, people who wanted to operate together. And that is why they have a good relationship today. in my opinion. So as a result, after all these decades, the two militaries are not really very good at operating together. There's no joint headquarters. There never has been in Japan. At best, they've operated in isolation. Do they recognize they don't have a joint access? Oh, they know. The Japanese military knows this. And US Indo -PACOM has not pushed the issue. And then you had... The State Department side, on the civilian side, people saying, well, if we ask the Japanese to get better at defense matters, well, they'll get angry. And if they do, then the Chinese will be mad. So you have the U .S. on the U .S. side. We're thinking of at least 10 reasons why Japan cannot improve its defenses. That's changed enough in recent years. But you see how many decades we've lost. 00:08:51 JACK GAINES Right. I can see part of what the State Department is saying in that a lot of those countries along the Asian coast were under Japanese rule during World War II. They're concerned that by showing favor and coordinating with them in defense might offend places like the Philippines or Korea. It is a concern to be weighed, but I don't know how much weight you would put to it. 00:09:14 GRANT NEWSHAM I wouldn't give it hardly any. With the Japanese, when you actually think about it, I would say within... 30 years of the end of the war, but certainly today, and for the last at least 20 years ago. The new century. Even before that. The Japanese and World War II is not really an issue in almost all of Asia. The Chinese, of course... Play it up. That's a good way to put it. Of course, they do remember what the Japanese did, and it was barbaric. Although the Chinese Communist Party afterwards killed 50 million Chinese in peacetime and good weather, which the Imperial Japanese Army couldn't have dreamed of doing. But World War II is an issue in China. Korea as well, the relationship is dicey. Up to a point. I mean, little old ladies go and sit in front of the embassy still. 00:10:05 JACK GAINES the embassy still. 00:10:06 GRANT NEWSHAM There are, and then you just had a South Korean amphibious ship come to Yokosuka in Tokyo on a visit. In Korea, there's a fundamental sort of suspicion of the Japanese. Sometimes it is a real dislike. But most people, it's not a big issue. But except for those two countries, you go down the list in Asia, and there is no after effect of World War II. I find the Filipinos get along very well with the Japanese. The Indonesians do. They, in fact, see the Japanese as being the people who freed them from the colonial yoke. Okay. The Malays, they actually didn't have that bad a time during the occupation. The Chinese in Malaysia did. So the Malaysians don't have any really hard feelings against the Japanese. Taiwan, same thing. They've got a very good relationship. And then there's one plus billion Indians who actually have an excellent relationship with Japan and see Japan as real friends and vice versa. So you're starting to get a good chunk of Asia, which, as you can see, actually sees Japan as a good country, useful economically. It's been very generous. And they like to see a Japanese military that's strong enough, allied with the United States, able to deal with China. 00:11:27 JACK GAINES Right. And why would we have such a different balance as we do with Germany and Europe? Because no one's questioning this in Holland or in France. That's just another country. They freely trade, they freely access each other. So maybe mindset just needs to shift to say the reform of Japan is just like Germany, and we need to start treating them and partner nations the same and start advocating for a joint staff. 00:11:52 GRANT NEWSHAM And you could do that in an afternoon, but the Japanese will not speak up for themselves. And an old New York Times reporter, Richard Halloran, I remember him telling me once that all the people he ever dealt with in the world... The Japanese were the worst at explaining themselves. And there's a reticence which slows them down. But also the Americans are afraid to tell them what we need. And that is a huge problem, because if we don't tell them, the Japanese are not blind readers, and they won't do what we think we'd like them to do, but we're afraid to ask. And in fact, one of the Japanese prime ministers in 1970, so 50 -some years ago, He gave some very good advice to the Americans, and it was at the time the Americans were trying to put an aircraft carrier into Yokosuka, the naval base near Tokyo. They wanted to assign it there permanently. And the U .S. side was thinking of excuses why it was too hard for the Japanese. They'll cause political difficulties. The Japanese have an election coming up. The timing just isn't right. And finally, the Japanese side sent a message to the Americans saying, tell us what you need. And don't back down. And they said it out of exasperation, really. And it was the best advice the Americans have ever been given. And we've refused to follow it ever since then. And really, it's almost a cultural trait, sort of a Confucian system. They actually are happy to have experts tell them what they ought to do. Sure. Whereas we are more of the Socratic method. And it doesn't, it just doesn't work. That's why after all these years, the Americans and the Japanese forces, except for the navies, And except for missile defense, we really don't operate together anywhere near where we need to be. We're not even close. And another very interesting fact a lot of people don't know is the Japanese military missed its recruitment targets by about 50 % last year. 5 -0? 00:13:50 JACK GAINES -0? 00:13:50 GRANT NEWSHAM 5 -0. And it routinely misses them by 20 -25%. So this, you can see, is a problem. It's now an older force, doesn't have enough people. In order to fulfill its missions, it would probably have to be twice as big, both personnel -wise and in terms of ships and hardware. Its war stocks are basically non -existent, doesn't know anything really about casualty care, combat casualty replacements, logistics. 00:14:20 JACK GAINES Well, if the media looks down on it and the political class looks down on it, it's not going to get a lot of positivity in the public mindset. So that's got to be part of it. It's not a vote -getter to push for a strong defense. 00:14:31 GRANT NEWSHAM vote -getter to push for a strong defense. I mean, if you're a politician, no one's going to say, he's the defense guy, let's give him our vote. But people vote for other reasons. But you do get used to, after that horrific experience in World War II, that for decades people didn't want to really think about defense, and they were glad to have the Americans around to handle it, and particularly when it seemed like there wasn't any real threat anywhere. People were happy with that, and even the U .S. side. didn't mind it as well. But I'd say it should have started to change at least 20 years ago. And it didn't until maybe four or five years ago. Well, 00:15:10 JACK GAINES when did the risk indicators really start popping up with China? 00:15:14 GRANT NEWSHAM I think by... It can't be back when Nixon went. 00:15:15 JACK GAINES It can't be back when Nixon went. Well, it should have, 00:15:16 GRANT NEWSHAM it should have, you know, I think. But about 2005 is when it was obvious what was coming. 00:15:19 JACK GAINES But about 00:15:21 GRANT NEWSHAM when it was obvious what was coming. And even before that, if you knew what to look for. But as I said, some of us... We knew what needed done and what the problems were. And there were Japanese who did too. And that's why when we put together their amphibious force, it was sort of an effort to address the shortcomings in Japan's self -defense force. Also to improve the overall U .S.-Japan relationship because it was so imbalanced. Right. Where the Japanese weren't doing anything near enough to defend themselves. And that over time creates a lot of friction in a relationship. So we were trying to address that with the amphibious force, and that was 2011, which we were pretty successful at that because we didn't ask permission from anybody. I was going to say, if you were successful, 00:16:10 JACK GAINES did you get fired? 00:16:11 GRANT NEWSHAM Well, it's not that people didn't try. 00:16:11 JACK GAINES Well, it's not that people didn't try. Sorry, that was sarcastic. But I was a reservist, so they couldn't quite get a bead on me. 00:16:15 GRANT NEWSHAM I was a reservist, so they couldn't quite get a bead on me. Yeah. And didn't quite know what we were doing. And also you had people like General Gregson, who was then at... Department of Defense, who had been in Japan many years, and he knew the importance of it all. So he would provide some cover. But the real success there was because the Japanese side took the ideas and ran with it. And the Americans provided some cover and some know -how and some advice. But it was the Japanese who did that. Once the Japanese took on the mission, well, what are the Americans going to say? But I was even told that at Indo -PACOM, that there were people who gotten wind of this and were very much opposed because the idea that Japanese having an amphibious force was provocative. Not just provocative, but it was going to cause the Japanese to go on the rampage again, like in 1941. I'm not making this up. 00:17:11 JACK GAINES So when Germany starts building the Leopard 2, were they expected to go on a rampage too? 00:17:17 GRANT NEWSHAM No, those are Europeans. Oh, okay. You know how the Europeans are okay. 00:17:19 JACK GAINES okay. You know 00:17:21 GRANT NEWSHAM But the fact that Germans have been allowed back into polite society. tells you something, and the Japanese are just as deserving of it as well. 00:17:30 JACK GAINES Did you see the movie Godzilla Minus One? No. It's an interesting portrayal of post -World War II Japan. And Godzilla, which is this giant monster, comes out of the sea, tears up Japan, and has an atomic breath that shoots off nuclear explosions, which sounds a lot like the United States in a mythological way. One thing that... the show did that was interesting is it kind of engaged post -military era and had talked about it. And it seemed like it was trying to reconcile the past with now and build out a notion that the military is okay, that after the war, there were good things that happened and that we should embrace a military in the future. So there might be some societal impulses out there that are promoting and supporting a more built -up military in Japan. 00:18:24 GRANT NEWSHAM Well, you're actually right. The public at large has always been pretty supportive of the military. For example, when they have open base days, when they put on so -called firepower demonstrations, which is like an exercise you can watch where they shoot off stuff, that they're always oversubscribed. And people just pour into these things because they're interested. And the central government, or say the ruling class, are the ones who are gun -shy or... I'm really hesitant, but the public at large, you know, when you ask them, you know, should Japan have a normal military? The replies to that are like 85%. Well, yes, of course. And I think they would be horrified if they knew the actual state of the Japanese military. I mentioned this to a Japanese politician last year, and he was horrified at the idea. And the public as well would have a similar reaction. Regular Japanese people say they have a pretty good understanding of what Japan needs to do to defend itself and of the importance of having a national defense, but the government doesn't explain it very well. When they do, the reaction, there's a Japanese expression, it's called like, it's atarimae. And it means like, well, yeah. It's like, duh. 00:19:42 JACK GAINES Abnautually. And that's what it means. 00:19:42 GRANT NEWSHAM And that's what it means. Should Japan have a good defense? Atarimae. And yeah, what's the question here? But if you ask that question in the political world, then you'll get all sorts of emming and hawing. They wanted nothing of that. By the late 70s, certainly by the 90s, that they sort of outlived that. But it was comfortable to continue with it, particularly if you're the government, because you don't have to spend money on defense. And the Americans are covering that. So it was as if the Americans were giving. I'd say at least $50 billion a year in free defense coverage, at least, probably more. And, you know, if you're a government, you think, well, why should we do anything different? And so they got used to that. We got used to it. And then at some point, the friction builds up where you just can't do that. And the Japanese themselves start to be resentful. 00:20:37 JACK GAINES Right. Keeping them handicapped, probably. 00:20:40 GRANT NEWSHAM Yeah. You know, they're not letting us be self -fulfilled. I think that's sort of the marriage counselor's analysis. And so that imbalance was such that it was creating huge problems in the relationship. But the defense relationship, you know, pointing out, well, you know, you guys really aren't very good, except for the Navy. You know, and we can't work with you very well, except for the Navies. And as a result, that's why we are where we are today. By now, if we had a more sort of capable U .S.-Japan defense relationship, where the two services could... operate together, and we're conducting a joint defense of Japan and the surrounding areas, which includes, say, to Taiwan even, that that would have, I think, deterred a lot of the problems that we're having. But by pretending everything was okay, we've gotten ourselves in a position where we now face a real threat out there. And we're trying to make up for lost time. And I don't know. And I don't know which side I would bet on. I'd bet on ours because I'm an American. But that's how out of whack it has gotten. It used to be maybe till 20 years ago, we were in pretty good shape. But you can see that advantage eroding. And nowadays, depending on how a fight were to take place, if it does take place, it would be less of a sure thing than it once was. And that's, I think, putting it very nicely. 00:22:04 JACK GAINES Well, tell me about the threat. 00:22:05 GRANT NEWSHAM What are you seeing? It's China. led by the Chinese Communist Party. (Part II) 00:00:02 JACK GAINES Welcome to the 1CA Podcast. This is your host, Jack Gaines. 1CA is a product of the Civil Affairs Association and brings in people who are current or former military, diplomats, development officers, and field agents to discuss their experiences on ground with the partner nation's people and leadership. Our goal is to inspire anyone interested in working the last three feet of foreign relations. To contact the show, email us at capodcasting@gmail.com. or look us up on the Civil Affairs Association website at www.civilaffairsassoc.org. I'll have those in the show notes. Please welcome back Grant Newsham, retired Marine colonel and author of When China Attacks, A Warning to America. Grant came on the show to discuss the state of the Japanese defense forces and the PRC threat. This is the second in a two-part episode, so let's get started. 00:00:56 SPEAKER_02 It's China. led by the Chinese Communist Party. They built up a military which is just gradually but steadily expanding its reach and its coverage. And it is compared to, say, 2020, now instead of just being able to operate a little bit off their coast, they can reach Guam, Hawaii, and onwards. The Chinese military doesn't tend to develop into a force able to operate worldwide just like the U .S. can. And their ship numbers. They've got more than we do. Something like 350 versus our 290. 00:00:58 JACK GAINES the Chinese Communist Party. 00:01:06 JACK GAINES its reach 00:01:11 JACK GAINES say, 2020, now instead of just being able to operate a little bit 00:01:15 GRANT NEWSHAM off their coast, they can reach Guam, Hawaii, and onwards. The Chinese military doesn't tend to develop into a force able to operate worldwide just 00:01:25 JACK GAINES like the U .S. can. And their ship numbers. They've got more than we do. Something like 350 versus our 00:01:37 SPEAKER_02 Well, fortunately, in terms of quality, they're pretty good. And they know what they need to do, and they're getting better. For some things like carrier operations, they're not at our level yet. But if you look at the speed at which they have developed, they're in pretty good shape. But let's just say the South China Sea, which is one and a half times the size of the Mediterranean. Whenever U .S. ships go in there, and we do publicize our transits and operations and exercises, for every ship we put in there, For every ship we put in, the Chinese can match it with at least 10. And that doesn't include ground -based and air -launched anti -ship missiles, for example. So if the Chinese pick their spot, 00:01:39 JACK GAINES they're pretty good. And they know what they need to do, and they're getting better. For some things like carrier operations, they're not at our level yet. But if you look at the speed at which they have developed, they're in pretty good shape. But let's just say the South China Sea, which is one and a half times the size of the Mediterranean. 00:02:00 JACK GAINES and we do publicize our transits and operations and exercises, for every ship we put in there, For every ship we put in, the Chinese can match it with at least 10. And that doesn't include ground -based and air -launched anti -ship missiles, for example. 00:02:16 SPEAKER_02 if the Chinese pick their spot, pick their timing, I wouldn't want to be the destroyer skipper who's got 20 anti -ship missiles coming at him. 20 anti -ship missiles coming at him. And he's got eight seconds to figure out what to do. The point is they have had de facto control of the South China Sea since about seven, eight years ago. And yes, we can go in there. But once we're gone, the Chinese close back up and they've pretty much got it. Beyond that, it's harder for them, but they're steadily expanding their capability to conduct operations. It's a military that has its problems, like every military, but they are trying to correct them. They are building a military which they want to be able to defeat a country that has aircraft carriers, which is us. In many respects, they are our equals. Have you ever heard a Korean War veteran who said he wanted to fight the Chinese again? And these were Chinese. These was the Chinese of 1950s. It's a very different place today. And I'm not saying that they can't be defeated, but I'm not saying that they can't be defeated. An adversary that could give us a lot of trouble. When their intentions are to first dominate regionally and locally, and then push that farther afield to all the Pacific and beyond. And they're setting up the infrastructure worldwide with ports and airfields to do that. They're investing in long -range transports, these naval replenishment ships that you need to be able to operate the way we do, and that's their mission. And we have pretended until about 2017 that this wasn't the case. In fact, you couldn't even say China was an adversary. And guys who did, like Captain James Fennell, who was the head of intelligence at Pack Fleet. He was cashier. He was forced to retire. He was cashier. He was forced to retire. The then administration hated him and got rid of him. And that's how bad it was. And I saw this all firsthand. Experience some of it, not as bad as Captain Fennell did. So we've allowed them to build up into a military that we had better take very seriously. And the Chinese do see this as a tool for their... 00:02:16 JACK GAINES if the 00:02:17 SPEAKER_03 Chinese pick their spot, pick their timing, I wouldn't want to be the destroyer skipper who's got 20 anti -ship missiles coming at him. 20 anti -ship missiles coming at him. 00:02:28 JACK GAINES figure out what to do. The point is they have had de facto control of the South China Sea since about seven, eight years ago. 00:02:39 JACK GAINES we're gone, the Chinese close back up and they've pretty much got it. Beyond that, it's 00:02:45 SPEAKER_03 but they're steadily expanding their capability to conduct operations. It's a military that has its problems, like every military, but they are trying to correct them. They are 00:02:55 JACK GAINES a military which they want to be able to defeat a country that has aircraft carriers, which is us. In many respects, 00:03:03 JACK GAINES our equals. Have you ever heard a Korean War veteran who said he wanted to fight the Chinese again? And these were Chinese. These was the Chinese of 1950s. It's a very different place today. And I'm not saying that they can't be defeated, but I'm not saying that they can't 00:03:22 JACK GAINES a lot of trouble. When their intentions are to first dominate regionally and locally, and then push that farther afield to all the Pacific and beyond. And they're setting up the infrastructure worldwide with ports and airfields to do that. They're investing in long -range transports, these naval replenishment ships that you need to be able to operate the way we do, and that's their mission. And we have pretended 00:03:50 SPEAKER_03 until about 2017 00:03:51 GRANT NEWSHAM that this wasn't the case. In fact, you couldn't even say China was an adversary. And guys who did, like Captain James Fennell, 00:04:01 JACK GAINES who was the head of intelligence at Pack Fleet. He was cashier. He was forced to retire. He was cashier. He was forced to retire. The then administration hated him and got rid of him. And that's how bad it was. And I saw this all firsthand. Experience some of it, not as bad as Captain Fennell did. So we've allowed them to build up into a military that we had better take very seriously. And the Chinese do see this as a tool for 00:04:30 SPEAKER_02 The idea is if you have a powerful military, well, that's when you can lean on people. That's when you can intimidate people. You can dominate them. And they're happy with the psychological domination, political domination. It doesn't have to be occupying, but dominating. And they're in every field, from outer space, long -range missiles, undersea warfare, really putting a lot of effort into it. And there is a certain sort of ingenuity that goes into their operations. Well, they can't invent things. They don't develop things on their own. They just steal things. So they reverse engineer things. So they reverse engineer. 00:04:32 SPEAKER_03 well, that's when you can lean on people. That's when 00:04:39 JACK GAINES And they're happy with the psychological domination, political domination. It doesn't have to be occupying, but dominating. And they're in every field, from outer space, long -range missiles, undersea warfare, really putting a lot of effort into it. And there is a certain sort of ingenuity that goes into their operations. Well, they can't invent things. They don't develop things on their own. They just steal things. So they reverse engineer things. 00:05:09 SPEAKER_02 Well, it... You know, it's kind of true up to a point, but look at us. The Yankee ingenuity was taking stolen British technology and making it better. And so the fact they may not be as innovative as us, well, sometimes it just has to be good enough. So they've got now a military to combine with this desire for political domination as well as considering their economic power as just as important as the military. And you see how successful that has been. When you have U .S. business leaders giving Xi Jinping two standing ovations last November in San Francisco, that tells you how successful they've been on the economic front. And the Japanese know they have a huge problem. You would often hear the Japanese military saying, one thing Taiwan's defense is Japan's defense. But I've even seen the calculations they did, like at which point the Japanese Navy would be outmatched by the Chinese Navy. And they had the date almost down to when it was. And our side, we were late recognizing this. We refused to. We refused to. 00:05:11 GRANT NEWSHAM kind of true up to a point, but look at us. The Yankee ingenuity was taking stolen British technology and making it better. And so the fact 00:05:20 SPEAKER_03 be as innovative as us, well, sometimes it just 00:05:23 JACK GAINES has to be good enough. So they've got now a military to combine with this desire for political domination as well as considering their economic power as just as important as the military. And you see how successful that has been. When you have U .S. business leaders giving Xi Jinping two standing 00:05:45 JACK GAINES San Francisco, that tells you how successful they've been on the economic front. And the Japanese know they have a huge problem. You 00:05:53 SPEAKER_03 would often hear the Japanese military saying, one thing Taiwan's defense is Japan's defense. But I've even seen the calculations they did, like at which 00:06:03 JACK GAINES point the 00:06:06 JACK GAINES be outmatched by the Chinese Navy. And they had the date almost down to when it was. And our side, we were late recognizing this. We refused 00:07:18 SPEAKER_02 Yeah, as he described it well. Ultimately, the military part of the fight is extremely important. But it's almost a sideshow. But it's almost a sideshow to the other activities, the other fight that China's been waging for the last 30, 40 years, almost ever since we opened up to them. And that has been generally referred to as political warfare, with components being economic warfare, financial warfare, drug warfare, which is the word the Chinese use. So all this fentanyl that's been pumped into America for the last decade that's killed up towards a million Americans, almost all of it comes from China. And they know exactly what they're doing. And so every year they're taking like the equivalent of two or three divisions off the battlefield. You've destroyed neighborhoods. You've destroyed successful economic warfare. Drive 30 miles up the road to Baltimore. Go to Sparrows, Baltimore. Where there used to be steel mills. And now you have Amazon fulfillment sectors at best. But you've seen just the gutting of American society, the so -called working class, the Rust Belt. And this was done intentionally. And this was done intentionally. In large part, Chinese economic warfare directed at the United States. And then you have cyber warfare as well. You have cyber espionage. Well beyond what countries normally do. But they have used it very effectively. And the Chinese just... Recently put out their new fighter. That's called the J -35. That is a dig at the Americans. Because it is based on stolen blueprints for the F -35. I don't know. 00:07:20 SPEAKER_03 Ultimately, the military part of the 00:07:26 SPEAKER_03 it's almost a sideshow. 00:07:29 JACK GAINES sideshow to the other activities, the other fight that China's been waging for the last 30, 40 years, almost ever since we opened up to them. And that has been generally referred to as political warfare, with components being economic warfare, financial warfare, drug warfare, which is the word the Chinese use. So all this fentanyl that's been pumped into America for the last decade that's killed up towards a million Americans, almost all of it comes from China. And they know exactly what they're doing. And so every year they're taking like the equivalent of two or three divisions off the battlefield. You've destroyed neighborhoods. You've destroyed successful economic warfare. Drive 30 miles up the road to Baltimore. Go to Sparrows, Baltimore. Where there used to be steel mills. And now you have Amazon fulfillment sectors at best. But you've seen just the gutting of American society, the so -called working class, the Rust Belt. And this was done intentionally. 00:08:26 JACK GAINES warfare directed at the United States. And then you have cyber warfare as well. You have cyber espionage. 00:08:34 SPEAKER_03 Well beyond what countries normally do. But they have used it very effectively. And the Chinese just... Recently put out their new fighter. That's called the J -35. That is a dig at 00:08:47 GRANT NEWSHAM it is based on stolen blueprints for the F -35. 00:08:55 GRANT NEWSHAM know. It's been a while. I don't know. It's been a while. 00:09:02 SPEAKER_02 Unfortunately, Copperfish is leapfrogging over stages. Yes, it may take them a little longer, but they will popscotch through it. And so... So I take it pretty seriously. Their Y -20, their long -range transport, is basically the C -17. And they've just been immensely successful at this sort of espionage. And at the same time, we've done nothing to push back on them. Then there's the propaganda angle of this, which really good old Jesuit meaning of the word just means to explain yourself or articulate your position. So people understand that they've been very successful in getting Americans to buy the Chinese line. China's rise is peaceful. China's rise is peaceful. China's never attacked anybody. China's never attacked anybody. It's not true. All great nations do this. So who are we to complain? America has its problems, too. America has its problems, too. Who are we to complain about the Chinese taking live organs out of Uyghurs and prisoners of conscience? And we've been able to convince ourselves that we've been able to convince ourselves that we've not only can we not do anything, we shouldn't do anything. This is changing. But you can see we were very late getting started. And this has all been done without firing a shot. Chinese economic inroads, Chinese economic inroads, which leads to political influence, is in, for example, South America and Africa. Just immense how fast that has come, how solid it is. Pacific Island, something similar is going on, something similar is going on. Look at the difficulties the Germans have had, weaning themselves off of this Chinese addiction. And as a result, 00:09:03 GRANT NEWSHAM is leapfrogging over stages. Yes, it may take them 00:09:07 SPEAKER_03 but they will 00:09:09 GRANT NEWSHAM popscotch through it. And so... So I take it pretty seriously. Their Y -20, 00:09:16 JACK GAINES their long -range transport, is basically the C -17. And they've just been immensely successful at this sort of espionage. And at the same time, we've done nothing to push back on them. Then there's the propaganda angle of this, which really good old Jesuit meaning of the word just means to explain yourself or articulate your position. So people understand that they've been very successful in getting Americans to buy the Chinese line. China's rise is peaceful. China's rise is peaceful. China's never attacked anybody. China's never attacked anybody. It's not true. All great nations do this. So who are we to complain? 00:09:49 SPEAKER_03 America has its problems, too. America has its problems, too. Who are we to complain about the Chinese taking live organs out of Uyghurs and prisoners of conscience? And we've been able to 00:10:00 JACK GAINES that we've been able 00:10:00 SPEAKER_03 to convince ourselves that we've not only can we not do anything, we shouldn't do anything. This is changing. But you can see we were very late getting started. And this has all been done without firing a shot. 00:10:10 JACK GAINES Chinese economic inroads, Chinese economic inroads, which leads to political influence, is in, for example, South America and Africa. Just immense how fast that has come, how solid it is. Pacific Island, something similar is going on, something similar is going on. 00:10:27 SPEAKER_03 Look at the difficulties the Germans have had, weaning themselves off of this Chinese addiction. 00:10:34 SPEAKER_02 as a result, they have been able to improve their position politically, psychologically, economically, and they've been able to do this globally without having to use their military. 00:10:36 SPEAKER_03 their position 00:10:40 GRANT NEWSHAM and they've been able to do this globally without having to use their military. 00:10:51 SPEAKER_02 Yeah, that's the idea. Is you don't want to. So our view of warfare is like a hundred -yard dash. Wherever the two sides come to the line, shake loose, and then someone fires a gun, and then someone fires a gun, and then it's game on. To the Chinese, the war has started long ago. And you're wearing down your opponent. You're weakening his ability to resist. You're creating chaos in his own country. There's a word called entropy. Which is just breaking down. Entropic warfare is a word that sometimes gets used. For you're breaking down his ability to resist. And at the same time, of course, the Chinese are building up a military, which is very serious. Yes, it's not showing up off of San Diego just yet. But places closer to China, it's much more of an issue. Japan knows the problem they have with the People's Liberation Army. Pacific Island, Southeast Asia. You are seeing more of a Chinese presence. And the point is, when the time comes, you may not even be able to resist if the Chinese have done this other sort of warfare. 00:10:53 JACK GAINES want to. So our view of warfare is like a hundred -yard dash. Wherever the two sides come to the line, shake loose, and then someone fires a gun, and then someone fires a gun, and then it's game on. To the Chinese, the war has started long ago. And you're wearing down your opponent. You're weakening his ability to resist. You're creating chaos in his own country. There's a word called entropy. Which is just breaking down. Entropic warfare is a word that 00:11:19 SPEAKER_03 sometimes gets used. For you're breaking down his ability to resist. And at the same time, of course, the Chinese are building up a military, which is very serious. 00:11:28 JACK GAINES Yes, it's not showing 00:11:33 JACK GAINES places closer to China, it's much more of an issue. Japan knows the problem they have with the People's Liberation Army. Pacific Island, Southeast Asia. You are seeing more 00:11:46 JACK GAINES Chinese presence. And the point is, when the time comes, you may not even be able to resist if the Chinese have 00:11:52 SPEAKER_03 this other 00:12:31 SPEAKER_02 That's exactly what it is. It's mental warfare. You're attacking the mind. You're attacking how people think about things. Some people use the word cognitive warfare. You're the popular word. Yeah, you're attacking the mind. And so you can see how well it worked. And the Russians had a much poorer hand to play than the Chinese do. Because we do so much business with China. And you see how hard it is to do things like ban TikTok. We can't even get that done. 00:12:33 JACK GAINES mental warfare. You're attacking the mind. You're attacking how people think about things. Some people use the 00:12:42 JACK GAINES You're the popular word. Yeah, you're attacking the mind. And so you can see how well it worked. And the Russians had a much poorer hand to play than 00:12:50 GRANT NEWSHAM the Chinese do. Because we do so much business with China. And you see how hard it is to do things like ban TikTok. We can't even get that done. 00:12:59 SPEAKER_02 We can't even get that done. 00:13:03 SPEAKER_02 Look, 72 hours, if that for the Indians do, we can do it. And you see how Chinese successfully use what they call lawfare, which is using our own legal system. And the idea is that you get proxies, influential foreigners in your target country to actually do your bidding for you. The Chinese have like five aces to play. The Russians might have won, but you can see how successful the Russians have been just with that. 00:13:04 JACK GAINES for the Indians do, we can do it. And you see how Chinese successfully use what they call lawfare, which 00:13:13 JACK GAINES the idea is that you get proxies, influential foreigners in your target country to actually do your bidding for you. The Chinese have like five aces to play. The Russians might have won, but you can see how successful the Russians have 00:13:41 SPEAKER_02 Uh -huh. Uh -huh. 00:13:46 SPEAKER_02 Well, you're right about the Russians, but the Chinese understand that the term gray zone paralyzes Americans. We have no idea what to do because of our view of warfare being until the shooting starts. That it is we're not really at war. There's still hope of working something out. 00:13:51 GRANT NEWSHAM paralyzes Americans. We have no idea what to do because of our view of warfare being until the shooting starts. That it is we're not really at war. There's still hope of working 00:14:03 SPEAKER_03 something out. 00:14:05 SPEAKER_02 That has been our rote response for all these years, is to not get the Chinese mad, don't provoke them, and we have convinced ourselves that we have to have Chinese help with fill -in -the -blank, North Korea transnational crime, nuclear weapons proliferation, climate change, and therefore we cannot challenge the PRC because we won't get their cooperation. That's what we've effectively handcuffed ourselves, but when it comes to that so -called hybrid warfare, it's not all that It's not all that complicated if you recognize what it is and how it fits into China's behavior, its strategy. But you also would do well to attract from other directions where they're particularly vulnerable. And that is where you take advantage of the fact, for example, the Chinese currency is not freely convertible, which means that outside of China, nobody really wants Chinese money. It's like the script at a... It's like the script where you can use it to buy caramel corn and go on the rides. 00:14:05 SPEAKER_03 has been our rote response for all these years, is to not get the Chinese mad, don't provoke them, and we have convinced ourselves that 00:14:14 JACK GAINES have Chinese help with fill -in -the -blank, North Korea transnational crime, nuclear weapons 00:14:22 JACK GAINES climate change, and therefore we cannot challenge the PRC because we won't get their cooperation. That's what we've effectively handcuffed ourselves, but when it comes to that so -called hybrid warfare, it's not all that It's not all that complicated if you recognize what it is and how it fits into 00:14:42 JACK GAINES its strategy. But you also would do well to attract from other directions where they're particularly vulnerable. And that is where you take advantage of the fact, for example, the Chinese currency is not freely convertible, which means that outside of China, nobody really wants Chinese money. It's like the script at a... It's like the script where you can use it to buy caramel corn and 00:15:06 SPEAKER_02 That's it. Nobody wants it. So choke that off and China's got some real problems. Another is the just thoroughgoing corruption of China's ruling class. And most of them have wealth overseas, foreign bank accounts. foreign bank accounts, relatives with green cards, relatives with green cards, some operate businesses overseas. And this is illegal. And this is illegal. 00:15:08 JACK GAINES it. So choke that off and China's got some real problems. Another is the just thoroughgoing corruption of China's ruling class. And most 00:15:19 GRANT NEWSHAM overseas, foreign bank accounts. foreign bank accounts, relatives with green cards, relatives with green cards, some operate businesses overseas. And this 00:15:31 SPEAKER_02 And this is where that really scares them. Because in 2011 or 2012, New York Times and Bloomberg actually put out some good stories about the overseas wealth of China's top people, including Xi Jinping's family. I've never seen a reaction from the Chinese like that one. This bothered them. 00:15:33 JACK GAINES scares them. Because in 2011 or 2012, New 00:15:37 SPEAKER_03 York Times and Bloomberg actually put out some good stories about the overseas wealth of China's top people, including Xi Jinping's family. 00:15:46 GRANT NEWSHAM I've never seen a reaction from the Chinese like that one. 00:15:53 SPEAKER_02 More than anything else we've ever done. That's... 00:15:53 GRANT NEWSHAM than anything 00:16:14 SPEAKER_02 One way to do it. Another way to do it. That would be a tactical thing. Say you were to release, say, every Friday. Say at 1 a .m. 1 o 'clock or whenever. 1 a .m. 1 o 'clock or whenever. 00:16:16 JACK GAINES way to do it. That would be a tactical thing. Say you were to 00:16:19 SPEAKER_03 release, say, every Friday. Say at 1 a .m. 1 o 'clock or whenever. 1 a .m. 1 o 'clock or whenever. 00:16:25 SPEAKER_02 Which of the top 50 Chinese Communist Party officials? And make sure it reached everywhere in China. The thing that the public really hates is this corruption. And by the top dogs. And that is something that really bothers them. And you note that the Chinese leadership is very willing to have the average Chinese citizen absorb any amount of punishment. And they even talk about it. 00:16:27 SPEAKER_03 Chinese Communist Party officials? And make sure it 00:16:29 GRANT NEWSHAM reached everywhere in China. The thing that the public really hates is this corruption. And by the top dogs. 00:16:38 JACK GAINES is something that really bothers them. And you note that the Chinese leadership is very willing to have the average Chinese citizen 00:16:49 JACK GAINES they even talk about it. 00:16:51 SPEAKER_02 But when it's personal, then they see it very differently. And this is one of the few ways to really make it personal for them is to capitalize on this corruption. So when we talk about... Dealing with Gray's own operations, we're probably not going to be all that successful. Because they have more ships, they can be in more places. 00:16:51 JACK GAINES when it's personal, then they see it very differently. And this is one of the few ways to really make it personal for them is to capitalize on this corruption. So when we talk about... Dealing with Gray's own operations, we're probably not going to be all that successful. Because they have more ships, they can be in more places. 00:17:14 SPEAKER_02 But expose that. They can do that. Have we made a concerted effort to expose Chinese bribery, the illicit payments, the corruption that they put into everywhere they go? Everywhere there's a Chinese presence, you have corruption of the society, the political class as well. And do we ever target that? Do we consider it a priority effort? I don't even think we consider it an effort at all. Exposure is the one thing that has a huge effect. This is why investigative journalists get big. It's why like Irish. gangsters try to murder them in Malta they get blown up because they're effective because they're effective which is the thing that makes it very hard for corruption to work and that's where I think 00:17:15 JACK GAINES can do that. Have we made a concerted effort to expose Chinese bribery, the illicit payments, the corruption that they put into everywhere they go? Everywhere there's a Chinese presence, you have corruption of the society, the political class as well. And do we ever target that? Do we consider it a priority effort? I don't even think we consider it an effort at all. Exposure is the one thing that has a huge effect. This is why investigative journalists 00:17:44 SPEAKER_03 get big. It's why like Irish. gangsters try to murder them in Malta they get blown up because they're effective because they're effective which 00:17:52 SPEAKER_02 is the thing that makes it very hard for corruption to work and that's where I think We have some real opportunities to make it very clear what's being done. And this is something that, if you expose it, you can really capitalize on it. Just make it too hard to do this. And it also gives oxygen to the honest people in a country. It gives them something to work with. It gives them something to work with. To take on these repressive regimes, these corrupt regimes, these corrupt regimes, administrations. And get rid of them and replace them with honest people. I've never met anywhere, anywhere I've been. Over the years. Where people like to be cheaters. Where people like to be cheaters. Where they like their leaders to be corrupt. I just haven't met it. I've been anywhere. I just haven't met it. I've been anywhere. It's just nothing you can do. But it's just nothing you can do. It really has an effect. And that's where I think government for sources could be effectively devoted. And particularly once you get local reporters in on it. Once you get the local. Honest locals in on it. Honest locals in on it. And that's where I think we could be very effective. Corruption, as you've mentioned, that really is the grease to everything the Chinese communists do globally. Take it away and then take away their access to dollars, convertible currency. And they've really got some problems. But they have played their hand very well today. But in some ways it's a house of cards. I don't think it's that hard to take on. But the longer you wait, the harder it gets. 00:17:52 SPEAKER_03 is the thing that makes it 00:17:54 JACK GAINES corruption to work and that's where I think We have some real opportunities to make it very clear what's being done. And this is something that, if you expose it, you can really capitalize on it. Just make it too hard to do this. And it also gives oxygen to the honest people in a country. It 00:18:16 JACK GAINES to work with. To take on these repressive regimes, these corrupt regimes, these corrupt regimes, 00:18:23 JACK GAINES them with honest people. I've never met anywhere, anywhere I've been. Over the years. Where 00:18:32 JACK GAINES I just haven't met it. I've been anywhere. I just haven't met it. I've been anywhere. It's just nothing you can do. But it's just nothing you can do. It really has an effect. And that's where I think government for sources could be effectively devoted. And particularly once you 00:18:46 GRANT NEWSHAM reporters in on it. Once you get the local. Honest locals in on it. Honest locals in on it. And that's where I think we could be very effective. 00:18:56 JACK GAINES Corruption, as you've mentioned, that really is the grease to everything the Chinese communists do globally. Take it away and then take away their access to dollars, convertible currency. And they've really got some 00:19:12 JACK GAINES today. But in some ways it's a house of cards. I don't think it's that hard to take on. But the longer you wait, the harder it 00:19:28 SPEAKER_02 In regards to U .S. policy, in policy, there really is a... a desire that the United States stays around in Asia, that maintains its military might, and is able to effectively safeguard what you call freedom consensual government. Because if you go around the region, nobody wants to be dominated by the PRC. But they do have a huge advantage, particularly economically, that they're seen by leaders and business people in a lot of these countries. That's really the source of... some wealth, some prosperity. And we would do well, for example, to see the fight as just as much an economic one as a military one. Because we could build up our military, rebuild it, and we could have 800 ships in the Navy, and still lose. If we don't fight on these other fronts, we don't want you here because we're doing too much business with China. And that's where the U .S., along with its friends, the Japanese, the Koreans, the Indians, the Australians, we would do well to operate together more and to see the economic front and the political warfare fronts as a priority effort as much, if not more, than the military. 00:19:30 SPEAKER_03 in policy, there 00:19:31 JACK GAINES really is a... a desire that the United States stays around in Asia, that maintains its military might, and is able to 00:19:45 JACK GAINES Because if you go around the region, nobody wants to be dominated by the PRC. But they do have a huge advantage, particularly economically, that they're seen by leaders and business people in a lot of these countries. That's really the source of... some wealth, some prosperity. And we would do well, for example, to see the fight as just as much an economic 00:20:09 GRANT NEWSHAM one as a military one. Because we could build up our military, rebuild it, and we could have 800 ships in the Navy, and still lose. If we don't 00:20:19 JACK GAINES on these other fronts, we don't want you here because we're doing too much business with China. And that's where the U .S., along with its friends, the Japanese, the Koreans, the Indians, the Australians, 00:20:30 GRANT NEWSHAM we would do well to operate together more and to see the economic front and the political warfare fronts as a priority effort as much, if not 00:20:40 JACK GAINES more, than the 00:20:45 SPEAKER_02 They have a role to play if they're properly harnessed. But you do know that these days you don't see the Yankee trader that used to exist. You'd run to Americans everywhere trying to sell something to do business. Not so much these days. And we've almost ceded the far -flung part to the world. Because, well, the return on investment isn't enough. That's not an attractive enough proposition. Well, then let's make it one. Plus, you do have, say, the Japanese, the Indians, who are much better at operating in these places, to put it together into a coherent plan. Understand what it is, political warfare, and not just block the Chinese political warfare effort, but actually have our own campaign. And it really is worth doing some homework, I think, for a lot of people into what political warfare is. One sees the opportunities, but it takes a certain type of person who's good at it. versus a civil affairs guy. Versus a civil affairs guy. He's going to see different... He's going to see parts of the battlefield in a different way. Yes, sometimes you want the tank. But then there's this other part of it all. That is almost like a liberal arts test. Here you have to figure out the motivations for things. You have to figure out how a society works. And then how do you appeal to it using the things that are parts of political warfare? And this is where you can really make some mileage. You've got to have both. Make no mistake. If you're not able to destroy things and kill people, the civil affairs part isn't going to get you very far. But combine the two, and then you've really got something that's very hard to take on if you're the bad guys. We talk about defending Taiwan, and how important it is, and it is, I think, indispensable, that China does not take Taiwan and enslave 23 million people. If they did that... 00:20:47 JACK GAINES they're properly harnessed. But you do know that these days you don't see the Yankee trader that used to exist. You'd run to Americans everywhere trying to sell something to do business. Not 00:20:59 SPEAKER_03 so much these days. And we've almost ceded the far -flung part to the world. Because, well, the return on investment isn't enough. That's not an attractive enough proposition. Well, then let's 00:21:10 GRANT NEWSHAM make it one. Plus, you do have, say, the Japanese, the Indians, who are much better at operating in these places, to put it together into a coherent plan. Understand what it 00:21:20 JACK GAINES is, political warfare, and not just block the Chinese political warfare effort, but actually have our own campaign. And it really is worth doing some homework, I think, for a lot of people into what political warfare is. One sees the opportunities, but it takes a certain type of person who's good at it. versus a civil affairs guy. Versus a civil affairs guy. He's going to see different... He's going to see parts of the battlefield in a different way. 00:21:50 SPEAKER_03 Yes, sometimes you want the tank. But then there's this other part of it all. That is almost like a liberal arts test. Here you have to figure 00:22:00 JACK GAINES for things. You have to figure out how a society works. And then how do you appeal to it using the things that are parts of political warfare? 00:22:10 JACK GAINES make some mileage. You've got to have both. Make no mistake. If you're not able to destroy things and kill people, the civil affairs part isn't going to get you very far. But combine the two, and then you've really got something that's very hard to take on if you're the bad guys. We talk about defending Taiwan, and how important it is, and it is, I think, indispensable, 00:22:32 GRANT NEWSHAM that China does not take Taiwan and enslave 23 million people. If they did that... 00:22:39 SPEAKER_02 Asia would turn red overnight, as every country tried to cut the best deal they could. No country anywhere on Earth would have much confidence in American promises that will protect them. But one of the ways to actually defend Taiwan is, yes, they could maybe use F -35s and long -range missiles and smart pines, etc. You do have to have all of this stuff. Is it enough, 00:22:39 GRANT NEWSHAM would turn red overnight, as every country tried 00:22:42 SPEAKER_03 to cut the best deal they could. No country anywhere 00:22:46 JACK GAINES on Earth would have much confidence in American promises that will protect them. But one of the ways to actually defend 00:22:51 GRANT NEWSHAM Taiwan is, yes, they could maybe use F -35s and long -range missiles and smart pines, etc. You do have to have all of this stuff. Is it enough, even? Particularly if the other side says, okay, we'll absorb whatever you can send at us, but you're finished. But one of the ways that... But one of the ways is to give them a free trade agreement to improve their economy to the point that the government felt like it had money to spend on defense. 00:23:02 SPEAKER_02 Particularly if the other side says, okay, we'll absorb whatever you can send at us, but you're finished. But one of the ways that... But one of the ways is to give them a free trade agreement to improve their economy to the point that the government felt like it had money to spend on defense. You get a certain confidence in the entire society when they're more prosperous. Salaries are very low in Taiwan. Make it so people feel like they've got more money. Can they can buy a house? Can they can buy a condominium? build up the economy and that has a ripple effect throughout the society and on their military itself. And yet we didn't do that. And I think that's where we should apply some effort. 00:23:11 JACK GAINES give them a free trade agreement to 00:23:16 JACK GAINES point that the government felt like it had money to spend on defense. You get a certain confidence in the entire society when they're more prosperous. Salaries are very low in Taiwan. Make it so people feel like they've got more money. Can they can buy a house? Can they can buy a condominium? 00:23:35 JACK GAINES the economy and that has a ripple effect throughout the society and on their military itself. And yet we didn't do that. And I think that's where we should apply some 00:24:25 SPEAKER_02 I think you're right. And it's essential that we start to understand. You look at much of the debate about us in China. What happens when the two forces go at each other? And that's almost like... Going up behind the Waffle House. Going up behind the Waffle House. To see who's the toughest guy in Prince William County. To see who's the toughest guy in Prince William County. Out back. But think of all the things that go into whether or not the two hoodlums. There's all sorts of reasons why. No, the

Please welcome Grant Newsham, retired marine colonel and author of When China Attacks, A Warning to America. Grant came on the show to discuss the state of the Japan Defense Forces and the PRC threat.  This is a two-part episode. Grant's biography: https://centerforsecuritypolicy.org/author/grant-newsham/ Book link: https://www.regnery.com/9781684513659/when-china-attacks/ A recent article: https://andmagazine.substack.com/p/the-us-in-the-pacific-getting-the?utm_source=substack&publication_id=746580&post_id=151553726&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&utm_campaign=email-share&triggerShare=true&isFreemail=true&r=ercjf&triedRedirect=true --- One CA is a product of the civil affairs association  and brings in people who are current or former military, diplomats, development officers, and field agents to discuss their experiences on the ground with a partner nation's people and leadership. 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I'll have those in the show notes. Please welcome Grant Newsham, retired Marine Colonel and author of When China Attacks, A Warning to America. Grant came on the show to discuss the state of the Japan Defense Forces and the PRC threat. This is the first of a two-part episode, so let's get started. 00:00:56 GRANT NEWSHAM I was effectively MarforPak's guy in Asia for a number of years. which worked well in both directions. So I was obviously in Japan, but also did a lot of work for them throughout the region, Southeast Asia as well, Taiwan even, which was a lot of fun. 00:01:13 JACK GAINES Yeah. And you've become a foreign policy advocate in the area. 00:01:16 GRANT NEWSHAM Yeah. At some point, maybe seven or eight years ago, figured I'd actually done enough stuff to maybe have a few ideas. So I started writing and speak a lot as well. So I guess I'm part of the commentariat. But I seem to write about once a week some topic related to often Asian defense, but sometimes economics, politics, sometimes organized crime. And I do get invited to speak here and there and seem to get a number of television or radio interviews as well. That's really cool. I didn't say I get invited to good things, but I do get the occasional invitation. I used to think it was because I had such insight. Someone told me not all that long ago that actually, if you'll say yes to an interview, you're likely to get more of them. Because the people who book them, they just want to get somebody on. And I thought it was because of my particular wisdom. 00:02:07 JACK GAINES of my particular wisdom. 00:02:09 GRANT NEWSHAM I'm joking a little bit. But obviously, you must have something useful to say. But it is funny. There's one place in Singapore that calls me a lot. It's like their CNN. And they've been calling me. Probably eight years at least, or almost every time, I'll tell the presenters that basically they don't know what they're talking about. And I always think, well, this is the last one, but they keep calling me up. They mislike you because you're the contrarian. 00:02:34 JACK GAINES mislike you because you're the contrarian. 00:02:36 GRANT NEWSHAM Oh, I can blame things in a way that sort of suits broadcast and that sort of regular people can understand, you know, 00:02:42 GRANT NEWSHAM that sort of regular people can understand, you know, being a regular person myself. 00:02:47 JACK GAINES Yeah, you learn to disagree without offending. 00:02:49 GRANT NEWSHAM Usually. And it's always sort of a relief, actually, when you can have a different look at things. 00:02:56 JACK GAINES That's good. I always thought you were going to say it is a relief sometimes when you just peel the coat off and then yell at them. 00:03:02 GRANT NEWSHAM The facts speak for themselves. Right. And if it's a presenter, their role is different, and they will generally not have the substantive knowledge that most of the people on the show will have. Right. And so much of what I have to say is often not... in line with accepted wisdom, particularly when it comes to Japan. Sure. So it's often that I'll have to present a different take on things, but they don't seem to be offended. 00:03:27 JACK GAINES Right. You mostly talk about Japan in its current defense fashion or in its foreign policy actions. 00:03:33 GRANT NEWSHAM A lot of that because people have a perception of Japan, for example, as a pacifist country. It cannot fight. It's peace loving. Right. etc. They have a nuclear allergy. You know, just the idea of nuclear weapons in Japan is out of the question. You often hear, well, their constitution won't let them fight. And none of those things are actually true. But it's the received wisdom. It's what people think. And when you simply point out the realities of Japan, that ultimately, at the end of the day, it's a country just like every other. And that the stereotypes about it really aren't correct when it comes to defense security. In fact, they use that the Constitution won't let them have a military. You probably heard it. Yeah. That's the idea. And they don't even call it a military. But the fact is they've got a military, which, according to some ratings, is the fifth most powerful in the world. It depends on how you calculate it, of course. But they call it something else. And what is the actual distinction between offensive and defensive weapons? 00:04:35 JACK GAINES It's usually the strike space. If it's inside your own country defending, then it's a defense space. Once you go out and start taking out other people's cities and moving forces in. 00:04:44 GRANT NEWSHAM Well, for example, they don't have much what you call power projection capability very far off their borders. But they do have a submarine fleet, say over 20 submarines. There's no reason you couldn't send them to the coast of China and start sinking ships. 00:04:59 JACK GAINES True. 00:05:00 GRANT NEWSHAM They've got F -16s. You can put long -range missiles on them and you can fly out of ways and cause people a lot of trouble. But their military really, I would say, is not so good at offense. It's not so good at defense either. And that's something that comes as a surprise to a lot of people. 00:05:15 JACK GAINES Well, do they exercise defense and offense? 00:05:18 GRANT NEWSHAM Oh, they have exercises, training, and they put on a pretty good show, particularly when they have visitors come. But they really, until very recently, and even now, they can't do joint operations, which means the air, sea, and ground forces. can't operate together. In fact, they don't even have a radio with which they can communicate easily. They have to jury -rig some relations, these connections. And that's something most people don't understand, because you look at it on paper. Japan has 250 ,000 people in its military, and it's got ships, aircraft, all of it modern and good stuff. 150 ,000 people in its ground self -defense force, their army. But it's not even the sum of its whole. If you imagine each of your limbs, your arms and your legs, each doing whatever it wants without the coordinating function provided by a brain. 00:06:10 JACK GAINES Sounds like me dancing. 00:06:12 GRANT NEWSHAM It would be, yeah. I think that I can picture that, whereas I'm more of an Arthur Murray kind of guy. But it's like that. And nobody can believe that because they think, well, this is the Japanese. It's this advanced modern country, big military, the rich country. And I mean, they can't even do these simple things. Right. The short answer is no, except in some limited circumstances. After 60 years of the U .S.-Japan defense relationship, 80 years after World War II, they still cannot do some of the basic things that a military needs to do, or do them very well, put it that way. But they do train, they exercise, the personnel quality is excellent. You know, we tend to say, well, we've got Japan as our ally, Japan has a military. But the reality is that the U .S. and Japanese forces cannot work very well together. There's one exception, and that's the two navies. The U .S. Navy and the Japanese Navy, called the Maritime Self -Defense Force, they actually do work well. And they show what's doable. 00:07:15 JACK GAINES They probably do dynamic exercises as well as structured ones, so they have to change, have to practice new orders and maneuvers. 00:07:22 GRANT NEWSHAM Well, the nature of naval operations is you can go out... into the sea, and you have more freedom to actually do stuff. But part of it actually was when Admiral Arleigh Burke, who was later chief of naval operations for many years, he was in charge in Japan. He basically laid down the ground rules, which was that the American Navy was going to treat the Japanese like friends, like allies. And that set the tone for everything. So they had a more relationship of equals, people who wanted to operate together. And that is why they have a good relationship today. in my opinion. So as a result, after all these decades, the two militaries are not really very good at operating together. There's no joint headquarters. There never has been in Japan. At best, they've operated in isolation. Do they recognize they don't have a joint access? Oh, they know. The Japanese military knows this. And US Indo -PACOM has not pushed the issue. And then you had... The State Department side, on the civilian side, people saying, well, if we ask the Japanese to get better at defense matters, well, they'll get angry. And if they do, then the Chinese will be mad. So you have the U .S. on the U .S. side. We're thinking of at least 10 reasons why Japan cannot improve its defenses. That's changed enough in recent years. But you see how many decades we've lost. 00:08:51 JACK GAINES Right. I can see part of what the State Department is saying in that a lot of those countries along the Asian coast were under Japanese rule during World War II. They're concerned that by showing favor and coordinating with them in defense might offend places like the Philippines or Korea. It is a concern to be weighed, but I don't know how much weight you would put to it. 00:09:14 GRANT NEWSHAM I wouldn't give it hardly any. With the Japanese, when you actually think about it, I would say within... 30 years of the end of the war, but certainly today, and for the last at least 20 years ago. The new century. Even before that. The Japanese and World War II is not really an issue in almost all of Asia. The Chinese, of course... Play it up. That's a good way to put it. Of course, they do remember what the Japanese did, and it was barbaric. Although the Chinese Communist Party afterwards killed 50 million Chinese in peacetime and good weather, which the Imperial Japanese Army couldn't have dreamed of doing. But World War II is an issue in China. Korea as well, the relationship is dicey. Up to a point. I mean, little old ladies go and sit in front of the embassy still. 00:10:05 JACK GAINES the embassy still. 00:10:06 GRANT NEWSHAM There are, and then you just had a South Korean amphibious ship come to Yokosuka in Tokyo on a visit. In Korea, there's a fundamental sort of suspicion of the Japanese. Sometimes it is a real dislike. But most people, it's not a big issue. But except for those two countries, you go down the list in Asia, and there is no after effect of World War II. I find the Filipinos get along very well with the Japanese. The Indonesians do. They, in fact, see the Japanese as being the people who freed them from the colonial yoke. Okay. The Malays, they actually didn't have that bad a time during the occupation. The Chinese in Malaysia did. So the Malaysians don't have any really hard feelings against the Japanese. Taiwan, same thing. They've got a very good relationship. And then there's one plus billion Indians who actually have an excellent relationship with Japan and see Japan as real friends and vice versa. So you're starting to get a good chunk of Asia, which, as you can see, actually sees Japan as a good country, useful economically. It's been very generous. And they like to see a Japanese military that's strong enough, allied with the United States, able to deal with China. 00:11:27 JACK GAINES Right. And why would we have such a different balance as we do with Germany and Europe? Because no one's questioning this in Holland or in France. That's just another country. They freely trade, they freely access each other. So maybe mindset just needs to shift to say the reform of Japan is just like Germany, and we need to start treating them and partner nations the same and start advocating for a joint staff. 00:11:52 GRANT NEWSHAM And you could do that in an afternoon, but the Japanese will not speak up for themselves. And an old New York Times reporter, Richard Halloran, I remember him telling me once that all the people he ever dealt with in the world... The Japanese were the worst at explaining themselves. And there's a reticence which slows them down. But also the Americans are afraid to tell them what we need. And that is a huge problem, because if we don't tell them, the Japanese are not blind readers, and they won't do what we think we'd like them to do, but we're afraid to ask. And in fact, one of the Japanese prime ministers in 1970, so 50 -some years ago, He gave some very good advice to the Americans, and it was at the time the Americans were trying to put an aircraft carrier into Yokosuka, the naval base near Tokyo. They wanted to assign it there permanently. And the U .S. side was thinking of excuses why it was too hard for the Japanese. They'll cause political difficulties. The Japanese have an election coming up. The timing just isn't right. And finally, the Japanese side sent a message to the Americans saying, tell us what you need. And don't back down. And they said it out of exasperation, really. And it was the best advice the Americans have ever been given. And we've refused to follow it ever since then. And really, it's almost a cultural trait, sort of a Confucian system. They actually are happy to have experts tell them what they ought to do. Sure. Whereas we are more of the Socratic method. And it doesn't, it just doesn't work. That's why after all these years, the Americans and the Japanese forces, except for the navies, And except for missile defense, we really don't operate together anywhere near where we need to be. We're not even close. And another very interesting fact a lot of people don't know is the Japanese military missed its recruitment targets by about 50 % last year. 5 -0? 00:13:50 JACK GAINES -0? 00:13:50 GRANT NEWSHAM 5 -0. And it routinely misses them by 20 -25%. So this, you can see, is a problem. It's now an older force, doesn't have enough people. In order to fulfill its missions, it would probably have to be twice as big, both personnel -wise and in terms of ships and hardware. Its war stocks are basically non -existent, doesn't know anything really about casualty care, combat casualty replacements, logistics. 00:14:20 JACK GAINES Well, if the media looks down on it and the political class looks down on it, it's not going to get a lot of positivity in the public mindset. So that's got to be part of it. It's not a vote -getter to push for a strong defense. 00:14:31 GRANT NEWSHAM vote -getter to push for a strong defense. I mean, if you're a politician, no one's going to say, he's the defense guy, let's give him our vote. But people vote for other reasons. But you do get used to, after that horrific experience in World War II, that for decades people didn't want to really think about defense, and they were glad to have the Americans around to handle it, and particularly when it seemed like there wasn't any real threat anywhere. People were happy with that, and even the U .S. side. didn't mind it as well. But I'd say it should have started to change at least 20 years ago. And it didn't until maybe four or five years ago. Well, 00:15:10 JACK GAINES when did the risk indicators really start popping up with China? 00:15:14 GRANT NEWSHAM I think by... It can't be back when Nixon went. 00:15:15 JACK GAINES It can't be back when Nixon went. Well, it should have, 00:15:16 GRANT NEWSHAM it should have, you know, I think. But about 2005 is when it was obvious what was coming. 00:15:19 JACK GAINES But about 00:15:21 GRANT NEWSHAM when it was obvious what was coming. And even before that, if you knew what to look for. But as I said, some of us... We knew what needed done and what the problems were. And there were Japanese who did too. And that's why when we put together their amphibious force, it was sort of an effort to address the shortcomings in Japan's self -defense force. Also to improve the overall U .S.-Japan relationship because it was so imbalanced. Right. Where the Japanese weren't doing anything near enough to defend themselves. And that over time creates a lot of friction in a relationship. So we were trying to address that with the amphibious force, and that was 2011, which we were pretty successful at that because we didn't ask permission from anybody. I was going to say, if you were successful, 00:16:10 JACK GAINES did you get fired? 00:16:11 GRANT NEWSHAM Well, it's not that people didn't try. 00:16:11 JACK GAINES Well, it's not that people didn't try. Sorry, that was sarcastic. But I was a reservist, so they couldn't quite get a bead on me. 00:16:15 GRANT NEWSHAM I was a reservist, so they couldn't quite get a bead on me. Yeah. And didn't quite know what we were doing. And also you had people like General Gregson, who was then at... Department of Defense, who had been in Japan many years, and he knew the importance of it all. So he would provide some cover. But the real success there was because the Japanese side took the ideas and ran with it. And the Americans provided some cover and some know -how and some advice. But it was the Japanese who did that. Once the Japanese took on the mission, well, what are the Americans going to say? But I was even told that at Indo -PACOM, that there were people who gotten wind of this and were very much opposed because the idea that Japanese having an amphibious force was provocative. Not just provocative, but it was going to cause the Japanese to go on the rampage again, like in 1941. I'm not making this up. 00:17:11 JACK GAINES So when Germany starts building the Leopard 2, were they expected to go on a rampage too? 00:17:17 GRANT NEWSHAM No, those are Europeans. Oh, okay. You know how the Europeans are okay. 00:17:19 JACK GAINES okay. You know 00:17:21 GRANT NEWSHAM But the fact that Germans have been allowed back into polite society. tells you something, and the Japanese are just as deserving of it as well. 00:17:30 JACK GAINES Did you see the movie Godzilla Minus One? No. It's an interesting portrayal of post -World War II Japan. And Godzilla, which is this giant monster, comes out of the sea, tears up Japan, and has an atomic breath that shoots off nuclear explosions, which sounds a lot like the United States in a mythological way. One thing that... the show did that was interesting is it kind of engaged post -military era and had talked about it. And it seemed like it was trying to reconcile the past with now and build out a notion that the military is okay, that after the war, there were good things that happened and that we should embrace a military in the future. So there might be some societal impulses out there that are promoting and supporting a more built -up military in Japan. 00:18:24 GRANT NEWSHAM Well, you're actually right. The public at large has always been pretty supportive of the military. For example, when they have open base days, when they put on so -called firepower demonstrations, which is like an exercise you can watch where they shoot off stuff, that they're always oversubscribed. And people just pour into these things because they're interested. And the central government, or say the ruling class, are the ones who are gun -shy or... I'm really hesitant, but the public at large, you know, when you ask them, you know, should Japan have a normal military? The replies to that are like 85%. Well, yes, of course. And I think they would be horrified if they knew the actual state of the Japanese military. I mentioned this to a Japanese politician last year, and he was horrified at the idea. And the public as well would have a similar reaction. Regular Japanese people say they have a pretty good understanding of what Japan needs to do to defend itself and of the importance of having a national defense, but the government doesn't explain it very well. When they do, the reaction, there's a Japanese expression, it's called like, it's atarimae. And it means like, well, yeah. It's like, duh. 00:19:42 JACK GAINES Abnautually. And that's what it means. 00:19:42 GRANT NEWSHAM And that's what it means. Should Japan have a good defense? Atarimae. And yeah, what's the question here? But if you ask that question in the political world, then you'll get all sorts of emming and hawing. They wanted nothing of that. By the late 70s, certainly by the 90s, that they sort of outlived that. But it was comfortable to continue with it, particularly if you're the government, because you don't have to spend money on defense. And the Americans are covering that. So it was as if the Americans were giving. I'd say at least $50 billion a year in free defense coverage, at least, probably more. And, you know, if you're a government, you think, well, why should we do anything different? And so they got used to that. We got used to it. And then at some point, the friction builds up where you just can't do that. And the Japanese themselves start to be resentful. 00:20:37 JACK GAINES Right. Keeping them handicapped, probably. 00:20:40 GRANT NEWSHAM Yeah. You know, they're not letting us be self -fulfilled. I think that's sort of the marriage counselor's analysis. And so that imbalance was such that it was creating huge problems in the relationship. But the defense relationship, you know, pointing out, well, you know, you guys really aren't very good, except for the Navy. You know, and we can't work with you very well, except for the Navies. And as a result, that's why we are where we are today. By now, if we had a more sort of capable U .S.-Japan defense relationship, where the two services could... operate together, and we're conducting a joint defense of Japan and the surrounding areas, which includes, say, to Taiwan even, that that would have, I think, deterred a lot of the problems that we're having. But by pretending everything was okay, we've gotten ourselves in a position where we now face a real threat out there. And we're trying to make up for lost time. And I don't know. And I don't know which side I would bet on. I'd bet on ours because I'm an American. But that's how out of whack it has gotten. It used to be maybe till 20 years ago, we were in pretty good shape. But you can see that advantage eroding. And nowadays, depending on how a fight were to take place, if it does take place, it would be less of a sure thing than it once was. And that's, I think, putting it very nicely. 00:22:04 JACK GAINES Well, tell me about the threat. 00:22:05 GRANT NEWSHAM What are you seeing? It's China. led by the Chinese Communist Party. (Part II) 00:00:02 JACK GAINES Welcome to the 1CA Podcast. This is your host, Jack Gaines. 1CA is a product of the Civil Affairs Association and brings in people who are current or former military, diplomats, development officers, and field agents to discuss their experiences on ground with the partner nation's people and leadership. Our goal is to inspire anyone interested in working the last three feet of foreign relations. To contact the show, email us at capodcasting@gmail.com. or look us up on the Civil Affairs Association website at www.civilaffairsassoc.org. I'll have those in the show notes. Please welcome back Grant Newsham, retired Marine colonel and author of When China Attacks, A Warning to America. Grant came on the show to discuss the state of the Japanese defense forces and the PRC threat. This is the second in a two-part episode, so let's get started. 00:00:56 SPEAKER_02 It's China. led by the Chinese Communist Party. They built up a military which is just gradually but steadily expanding its reach and its coverage. And it is compared to, say, 2020, now instead of just being able to operate a little bit off their coast, they can reach Guam, Hawaii, and onwards. The Chinese military doesn't tend to develop into a force able to operate worldwide just like the U .S. can. And their ship numbers. They've got more than we do. Something like 350 versus our 290. 00:00:58 JACK GAINES the Chinese Communist Party. 00:01:06 JACK GAINES its reach 00:01:11 JACK GAINES say, 2020, now instead of just being able to operate a little bit 00:01:15 GRANT NEWSHAM off their coast, they can reach Guam, Hawaii, and onwards. The Chinese military doesn't tend to develop into a force able to operate worldwide just 00:01:25 JACK GAINES like the U .S. can. And their ship numbers. They've got more than we do. Something like 350 versus our 00:01:37 SPEAKER_02 Well, fortunately, in terms of quality, they're pretty good. And they know what they need to do, and they're getting better. For some things like carrier operations, they're not at our level yet. But if you look at the speed at which they have developed, they're in pretty good shape. But let's just say the South China Sea, which is one and a half times the size of the Mediterranean. Whenever U .S. ships go in there, and we do publicize our transits and operations and exercises, for every ship we put in there, For every ship we put in, the Chinese can match it with at least 10. And that doesn't include ground -based and air -launched anti -ship missiles, for example. So if the Chinese pick their spot, 00:01:39 JACK GAINES they're pretty good. And they know what they need to do, and they're getting better. For some things like carrier operations, they're not at our level yet. But if you look at the speed at which they have developed, they're in pretty good shape. But let's just say the South China Sea, which is one and a half times the size of the Mediterranean. 00:02:00 JACK GAINES and we do publicize our transits and operations and exercises, for every ship we put in there, For every ship we put in, the Chinese can match it with at least 10. And that doesn't include ground -based and air -launched anti -ship missiles, for example. 00:02:16 SPEAKER_02 if the Chinese pick their spot, pick their timing, I wouldn't want to be the destroyer skipper who's got 20 anti -ship missiles coming at him. 20 anti -ship missiles coming at him. And he's got eight seconds to figure out what to do. The point is they have had de facto control of the South China Sea since about seven, eight years ago. And yes, we can go in there. But once we're gone, the Chinese close back up and they've pretty much got it. Beyond that, it's harder for them, but they're steadily expanding their capability to conduct operations. It's a military that has its problems, like every military, but they are trying to correct them. They are building a military which they want to be able to defeat a country that has aircraft carriers, which is us. In many respects, they are our equals. Have you ever heard a Korean War veteran who said he wanted to fight the Chinese again? And these were Chinese. These was the Chinese of 1950s. It's a very different place today. And I'm not saying that they can't be defeated, but I'm not saying that they can't be defeated. An adversary that could give us a lot of trouble. When their intentions are to first dominate regionally and locally, and then push that farther afield to all the Pacific and beyond. And they're setting up the infrastructure worldwide with ports and airfields to do that. They're investing in long -range transports, these naval replenishment ships that you need to be able to operate the way we do, and that's their mission. And we have pretended until about 2017 that this wasn't the case. In fact, you couldn't even say China was an adversary. And guys who did, like Captain James Fennell, who was the head of intelligence at Pack Fleet. He was cashier. He was forced to retire. He was cashier. He was forced to retire. The then administration hated him and got rid of him. And that's how bad it was. And I saw this all firsthand. Experience some of it, not as bad as Captain Fennell did. So we've allowed them to build up into a military that we had better take very seriously. And the Chinese do see this as a tool for their... 00:02:16 JACK GAINES if the 00:02:17 SPEAKER_03 Chinese pick their spot, pick their timing, I wouldn't want to be the destroyer skipper who's got 20 anti -ship missiles coming at him. 20 anti -ship missiles coming at him. 00:02:28 JACK GAINES figure out what to do. The point is they have had de facto control of the South China Sea since about seven, eight years ago. 00:02:39 JACK GAINES we're gone, the Chinese close back up and they've pretty much got it. Beyond that, it's 00:02:45 SPEAKER_03 but they're steadily expanding their capability to conduct operations. It's a military that has its problems, like every military, but they are trying to correct them. They are 00:02:55 JACK GAINES a military which they want to be able to defeat a country that has aircraft carriers, which is us. In many respects, 00:03:03 JACK GAINES our equals. Have you ever heard a Korean War veteran who said he wanted to fight the Chinese again? And these were Chinese. These was the Chinese of 1950s. It's a very different place today. And I'm not saying that they can't be defeated, but I'm not saying that they can't 00:03:22 JACK GAINES a lot of trouble. When their intentions are to first dominate regionally and locally, and then push that farther afield to all the Pacific and beyond. And they're setting up the infrastructure worldwide with ports and airfields to do that. They're investing in long -range transports, these naval replenishment ships that you need to be able to operate the way we do, and that's their mission. And we have pretended 00:03:50 SPEAKER_03 until about 2017 00:03:51 GRANT NEWSHAM that this wasn't the case. In fact, you couldn't even say China was an adversary. And guys who did, like Captain James Fennell, 00:04:01 JACK GAINES who was the head of intelligence at Pack Fleet. He was cashier. He was forced to retire. He was cashier. He was forced to retire. The then administration hated him and got rid of him. And that's how bad it was. And I saw this all firsthand. Experience some of it, not as bad as Captain Fennell did. So we've allowed them to build up into a military that we had better take very seriously. And the Chinese do see this as a tool for 00:04:30 SPEAKER_02 The idea is if you have a powerful military, well, that's when you can lean on people. That's when you can intimidate people. You can dominate them. And they're happy with the psychological domination, political domination. It doesn't have to be occupying, but dominating. And they're in every field, from outer space, long -range missiles, undersea warfare, really putting a lot of effort into it. And there is a certain sort of ingenuity that goes into their operations. Well, they can't invent things. They don't develop things on their own. They just steal things. So they reverse engineer things. So they reverse engineer. 00:04:32 SPEAKER_03 well, that's when you can lean on people. That's when 00:04:39 JACK GAINES And they're happy with the psychological domination, political domination. It doesn't have to be occupying, but dominating. And they're in every field, from outer space, long -range missiles, undersea warfare, really putting a lot of effort into it. And there is a certain sort of ingenuity that goes into their operations. Well, they can't invent things. They don't develop things on their own. They just steal things. So they reverse engineer things. 00:05:09 SPEAKER_02 Well, it... You know, it's kind of true up to a point, but look at us. The Yankee ingenuity was taking stolen British technology and making it better. And so the fact they may not be as innovative as us, well, sometimes it just has to be good enough. So they've got now a military to combine with this desire for political domination as well as considering their economic power as just as important as the military. And you see how successful that has been. When you have U .S. business leaders giving Xi Jinping two standing ovations last November in San Francisco, that tells you how successful they've been on the economic front. And the Japanese know they have a huge problem. You would often hear the Japanese military saying, one thing Taiwan's defense is Japan's defense. But I've even seen the calculations they did, like at which point the Japanese Navy would be outmatched by the Chinese Navy. And they had the date almost down to when it was. And our side, we were late recognizing this. We refused to. We refused to. 00:05:11 GRANT NEWSHAM kind of true up to a point, but look at us. The Yankee ingenuity was taking stolen British technology and making it better. And so the fact 00:05:20 SPEAKER_03 be as innovative as us, well, sometimes it just 00:05:23 JACK GAINES has to be good enough. So they've got now a military to combine with this desire for political domination as well as considering their economic power as just as important as the military. And you see how successful that has been. When you have U .S. business leaders giving Xi Jinping two standing 00:05:45 JACK GAINES San Francisco, that tells you how successful they've been on the economic front. And the Japanese know they have a huge problem. You 00:05:53 SPEAKER_03 would often hear the Japanese military saying, one thing Taiwan's defense is Japan's defense. But I've even seen the calculations they did, like at which 00:06:03 JACK GAINES point the 00:06:06 JACK GAINES be outmatched by the Chinese Navy. And they had the date almost down to when it was. And our side, we were late recognizing this. We refused 00:07:18 SPEAKER_02 Yeah, as he described it well. Ultimately, the military part of the fight is extremely important. But it's almost a sideshow. But it's almost a sideshow to the other activities, the other fight that China's been waging for the last 30, 40 years, almost ever since we opened up to them. And that has been generally referred to as political warfare, with components being economic warfare, financial warfare, drug warfare, which is the word the Chinese use. So all this fentanyl that's been pumped into America for the last decade that's killed up towards a million Americans, almost all of it comes from China. And they know exactly what they're doing. And so every year they're taking like the equivalent of two or three divisions off the battlefield. You've destroyed neighborhoods. You've destroyed successful economic warfare. Drive 30 miles up the road to Baltimore. Go to Sparrows, Baltimore. Where there used to be steel mills. And now you have Amazon fulfillment sectors at best. But you've seen just the gutting of American society, the so -called working class, the Rust Belt. And this was done intentionally. And this was done intentionally. In large part, Chinese economic warfare directed at the United States. And then you have cyber warfare as well. You have cyber espionage. Well beyond what countries normally do. But they have used it very effectively. And the Chinese just... Recently put out their new fighter. That's called the J -35. That is a dig at the Americans. Because it is based on stolen blueprints for the F -35. I don't know. 00:07:20 SPEAKER_03 Ultimately, the military part of the 00:07:26 SPEAKER_03 it's almost a sideshow. 00:07:29 JACK GAINES sideshow to the other activities, the other fight that China's been waging for the last 30, 40 years, almost ever since we opened up to them. And that has been generally referred to as political warfare, with components being economic warfare, financial warfare, drug warfare, which is the word the Chinese use. So all this fentanyl that's been pumped into America for the last decade that's killed up towards a million Americans, almost all of it comes from China. And they know exactly what they're doing. And so every year they're taking like the equivalent of two or three divisions off the battlefield. You've destroyed neighborhoods. You've destroyed successful economic warfare. Drive 30 miles up the road to Baltimore. Go to Sparrows, Baltimore. Where there used to be steel mills. And now you have Amazon fulfillment sectors at best. But you've seen just the gutting of American society, the so -called working class, the Rust Belt. And this was done intentionally. 00:08:26 JACK GAINES warfare directed at the United States. And then you have cyber warfare as well. You have cyber espionage. 00:08:34 SPEAKER_03 Well beyond what countries normally do. But they have used it very effectively. And the Chinese just... Recently put out their new fighter. That's called the J -35. That is a dig at 00:08:47 GRANT NEWSHAM it is based on stolen blueprints for the F -35. 00:08:55 GRANT NEWSHAM know. It's been a while. I don't know. It's been a while. 00:09:02 SPEAKER_02 Unfortunately, Copperfish is leapfrogging over stages. Yes, it may take them a little longer, but they will popscotch through it. And so... So I take it pretty seriously. Their Y -20, their long -range transport, is basically the C -17. And they've just been immensely successful at this sort of espionage. And at the same time, we've done nothing to push back on them. Then there's the propaganda angle of this, which really good old Jesuit meaning of the word just means to explain yourself or articulate your position. So people understand that they've been very successful in getting Americans to buy the Chinese line. China's rise is peaceful. China's rise is peaceful. China's never attacked anybody. China's never attacked anybody. It's not true. All great nations do this. So who are we to complain? America has its problems, too. America has its problems, too. Who are we to complain about the Chinese taking live organs out of Uyghurs and prisoners of conscience? And we've been able to convince ourselves that we've been able to convince ourselves that we've not only can we not do anything, we shouldn't do anything. This is changing. But you can see we were very late getting started. And this has all been done without firing a shot. Chinese economic inroads, Chinese economic inroads, which leads to political influence, is in, for example, South America and Africa. Just immense how fast that has come, how solid it is. Pacific Island, something similar is going on, something similar is going on. Look at the difficulties the Germans have had, weaning themselves off of this Chinese addiction. And as a result, 00:09:03 GRANT NEWSHAM is leapfrogging over stages. Yes, it may take them 00:09:07 SPEAKER_03 but they will 00:09:09 GRANT NEWSHAM popscotch through it. And so... So I take it pretty seriously. Their Y -20, 00:09:16 JACK GAINES their long -range transport, is basically the C -17. And they've just been immensely successful at this sort of espionage. And at the same time, we've done nothing to push back on them. Then there's the propaganda angle of this, which really good old Jesuit meaning of the word just means to explain yourself or articulate your position. So people understand that they've been very successful in getting Americans to buy the Chinese line. China's rise is peaceful. China's rise is peaceful. China's never attacked anybody. China's never attacked anybody. It's not true. All great nations do this. So who are we to complain? 00:09:49 SPEAKER_03 America has its problems, too. America has its problems, too. Who are we to complain about the Chinese taking live organs out of Uyghurs and prisoners of conscience? And we've been able to 00:10:00 JACK GAINES that we've been able 00:10:00 SPEAKER_03 to convince ourselves that we've not only can we not do anything, we shouldn't do anything. This is changing. But you can see we were very late getting started. And this has all been done without firing a shot. 00:10:10 JACK GAINES Chinese economic inroads, Chinese economic inroads, which leads to political influence, is in, for example, South America and Africa. Just immense how fast that has come, how solid it is. Pacific Island, something similar is going on, something similar is going on. 00:10:27 SPEAKER_03 Look at the difficulties the Germans have had, weaning themselves off of this Chinese addiction. 00:10:34 SPEAKER_02 as a result, they have been able to improve their position politically, psychologically, economically, and they've been able to do this globally without having to use their military. 00:10:36 SPEAKER_03 their position 00:10:40 GRANT NEWSHAM and they've been able to do this globally without having to use their military. 00:10:51 SPEAKER_02 Yeah, that's the idea. Is you don't want to. So our view of warfare is like a hundred -yard dash. Wherever the two sides come to the line, shake loose, and then someone fires a gun, and then someone fires a gun, and then it's game on. To the Chinese, the war has started long ago. And you're wearing down your opponent. You're weakening his ability to resist. You're creating chaos in his own country. There's a word called entropy. Which is just breaking down. Entropic warfare is a word that sometimes gets used. For you're breaking down his ability to resist. And at the same time, of course, the Chinese are building up a military, which is very serious. Yes, it's not showing up off of San Diego just yet. But places closer to China, it's much more of an issue. Japan knows the problem they have with the People's Liberation Army. Pacific Island, Southeast Asia. You are seeing more of a Chinese presence. And the point is, when the time comes, you may not even be able to resist if the Chinese have done this other sort of warfare. 00:10:53 JACK GAINES want to. So our view of warfare is like a hundred -yard dash. Wherever the two sides come to the line, shake loose, and then someone fires a gun, and then someone fires a gun, and then it's game on. To the Chinese, the war has started long ago. And you're wearing down your opponent. You're weakening his ability to resist. You're creating chaos in his own country. There's a word called entropy. Which is just breaking down. Entropic warfare is a word that 00:11:19 SPEAKER_03 sometimes gets used. For you're breaking down his ability to resist. And at the same time, of course, the Chinese are building up a military, which is very serious. 00:11:28 JACK GAINES Yes, it's not showing 00:11:33 JACK GAINES places closer to China, it's much more of an issue. Japan knows the problem they have with the People's Liberation Army. Pacific Island, Southeast Asia. You are seeing more 00:11:46 JACK GAINES Chinese presence. And the point is, when the time comes, you may not even be able to resist if the Chinese have 00:11:52 SPEAKER_03 this other 00:12:31 SPEAKER_02 That's exactly what it is. It's mental warfare. You're attacking the mind. You're attacking how people think about things. Some people use the word cognitive warfare. You're the popular word. Yeah, you're attacking the mind. And so you can see how well it worked. And the Russians had a much poorer hand to play than the Chinese do. Because we do so much business with China. And you see how hard it is to do things like ban TikTok. We can't even get that done. 00:12:33 JACK GAINES mental warfare. You're attacking the mind. You're attacking how people think about things. Some people use the 00:12:42 JACK GAINES You're the popular word. Yeah, you're attacking the mind. And so you can see how well it worked. And the Russians had a much poorer hand to play than 00:12:50 GRANT NEWSHAM the Chinese do. Because we do so much business with China. And you see how hard it is to do things like ban TikTok. We can't even get that done. 00:12:59 SPEAKER_02 We can't even get that done. 00:13:03 SPEAKER_02 Look, 72 hours, if that for the Indians do, we can do it. And you see how Chinese successfully use what they call lawfare, which is using our own legal system. And the idea is that you get proxies, influential foreigners in your target country to actually do your bidding for you. The Chinese have like five aces to play. The Russians might have won, but you can see how successful the Russians have been just with that. 00:13:04 JACK GAINES for the Indians do, we can do it. And you see how Chinese successfully use what they call lawfare, which 00:13:13 JACK GAINES the idea is that you get proxies, influential foreigners in your target country to actually do your bidding for you. The Chinese have like five aces to play. The Russians might have won, but you can see how successful the Russians have 00:13:41 SPEAKER_02 Uh -huh. Uh -huh. 00:13:46 SPEAKER_02 Well, you're right about the Russians, but the Chinese understand that the term gray zone paralyzes Americans. We have no idea what to do because of our view of warfare being until the shooting starts. That it is we're not really at war. There's still hope of working something out. 00:13:51 GRANT NEWSHAM paralyzes Americans. We have no idea what to do because of our view of warfare being until the shooting starts. That it is we're not really at war. There's still hope of working 00:14:03 SPEAKER_03 something out. 00:14:05 SPEAKER_02 That has been our rote response for all these years, is to not get the Chinese mad, don't provoke them, and we have convinced ourselves that we have to have Chinese help with fill -in -the -blank, North Korea transnational crime, nuclear weapons proliferation, climate change, and therefore we cannot challenge the PRC because we won't get their cooperation. That's what we've effectively handcuffed ourselves, but when it comes to that so -called hybrid warfare, it's not all that It's not all that complicated if you recognize what it is and how it fits into China's behavior, its strategy. But you also would do well to attract from other directions where they're particularly vulnerable. And that is where you take advantage of the fact, for example, the Chinese currency is not freely convertible, which means that outside of China, nobody really wants Chinese money. It's like the script at a... It's like the script where you can use it to buy caramel corn and go on the rides. 00:14:05 SPEAKER_03 has been our rote response for all these years, is to not get the Chinese mad, don't provoke them, and we have convinced ourselves that 00:14:14 JACK GAINES have Chinese help with fill -in -the -blank, North Korea transnational crime, nuclear weapons 00:14:22 JACK GAINES climate change, and therefore we cannot challenge the PRC because we won't get their cooperation. That's what we've effectively handcuffed ourselves, but when it comes to that so -called hybrid warfare, it's not all that It's not all that complicated if you recognize what it is and how it fits into 00:14:42 JACK GAINES its strategy. But you also would do well to attract from other directions where they're particularly vulnerable. And that is where you take advantage of the fact, for example, the Chinese currency is not freely convertible, which means that outside of China, nobody really wants Chinese money. It's like the script at a... It's like the script where you can use it to buy caramel corn and 00:15:06 SPEAKER_02 That's it. Nobody wants it. So choke that off and China's got some real problems. Another is the just thoroughgoing corruption of China's ruling class. And most of them have wealth overseas, foreign bank accounts. foreign bank accounts, relatives with green cards, relatives with green cards, some operate businesses overseas. And this is illegal. And this is illegal. 00:15:08 JACK GAINES it. So choke that off and China's got some real problems. Another is the just thoroughgoing corruption of China's ruling class. And most 00:15:19 GRANT NEWSHAM overseas, foreign bank accounts. foreign bank accounts, relatives with green cards, relatives with green cards, some operate businesses overseas. And this 00:15:31 SPEAKER_02 And this is where that really scares them. Because in 2011 or 2012, New York Times and Bloomberg actually put out some good stories about the overseas wealth of China's top people, including Xi Jinping's family. I've never seen a reaction from the Chinese like that one. This bothered them. 00:15:33 JACK GAINES scares them. Because in 2011 or 2012, New 00:15:37 SPEAKER_03 York Times and Bloomberg actually put out some good stories about the overseas wealth of China's top people, including Xi Jinping's family. 00:15:46 GRANT NEWSHAM I've never seen a reaction from the Chinese like that one. 00:15:53 SPEAKER_02 More than anything else we've ever done. That's... 00:15:53 GRANT NEWSHAM than anything 00:16:14 SPEAKER_02 One way to do it. Another way to do it. That would be a tactical thing. Say you were to release, say, every Friday. Say at 1 a .m. 1 o 'clock or whenever. 1 a .m. 1 o 'clock or whenever. 00:16:16 JACK GAINES way to do it. That would be a tactical thing. Say you were to 00:16:19 SPEAKER_03 release, say, every Friday. Say at 1 a .m. 1 o 'clock or whenever. 1 a .m. 1 o 'clock or whenever. 00:16:25 SPEAKER_02 Which of the top 50 Chinese Communist Party officials? And make sure it reached everywhere in China. The thing that the public really hates is this corruption. And by the top dogs. And that is something that really bothers them. And you note that the Chinese leadership is very willing to have the average Chinese citizen absorb any amount of punishment. And they even talk about it. 00:16:27 SPEAKER_03 Chinese Communist Party officials? And make sure it 00:16:29 GRANT NEWSHAM reached everywhere in China. The thing that the public really hates is this corruption. And by the top dogs. 00:16:38 JACK GAINES is something that really bothers them. And you note that the Chinese leadership is very willing to have the average Chinese citizen 00:16:49 JACK GAINES they even talk about it. 00:16:51 SPEAKER_02 But when it's personal, then they see it very differently. And this is one of the few ways to really make it personal for them is to capitalize on this corruption. So when we talk about... Dealing with Gray's own operations, we're probably not going to be all that successful. Because they have more ships, they can be in more places. 00:16:51 JACK GAINES when it's personal, then they see it very differently. And this is one of the few ways to really make it personal for them is to capitalize on this corruption. So when we talk about... Dealing with Gray's own operations, we're probably not going to be all that successful. Because they have more ships, they can be in more places. 00:17:14 SPEAKER_02 But expose that. They can do that. Have we made a concerted effort to expose Chinese bribery, the illicit payments, the corruption that they put into everywhere they go? Everywhere there's a Chinese presence, you have corruption of the society, the political class as well. And do we ever target that? Do we consider it a priority effort? I don't even think we consider it an effort at all. Exposure is the one thing that has a huge effect. This is why investigative journalists get big. It's why like Irish. gangsters try to murder them in Malta they get blown up because they're effective because they're effective which is the thing that makes it very hard for corruption to work and that's where I think 00:17:15 JACK GAINES can do that. Have we made a concerted effort to expose Chinese bribery, the illicit payments, the corruption that they put into everywhere they go? Everywhere there's a Chinese presence, you have corruption of the society, the political class as well. And do we ever target that? Do we consider it a priority effort? I don't even think we consider it an effort at all. Exposure is the one thing that has a huge effect. This is why investigative journalists 00:17:44 SPEAKER_03 get big. It's why like Irish. gangsters try to murder them in Malta they get blown up because they're effective because they're effective which 00:17:52 SPEAKER_02 is the thing that makes it very hard for corruption to work and that's where I think We have some real opportunities to make it very clear what's being done. And this is something that, if you expose it, you can really capitalize on it. Just make it too hard to do this. And it also gives oxygen to the honest people in a country. It gives them something to work with. It gives them something to work with. To take on these repressive regimes, these corrupt regimes, these corrupt regimes, administrations. And get rid of them and replace them with honest people. I've never met anywhere, anywhere I've been. Over the years. Where people like to be cheaters. Where people like to be cheaters. Where they like their leaders to be corrupt. I just haven't met it. I've been anywhere. I just haven't met it. I've been anywhere. It's just nothing you can do. But it's just nothing you can do. It really has an effect. And that's where I think government for sources could be effectively devoted. And particularly once you get local reporters in on it. Once you get the local. Honest locals in on it. Honest locals in on it. And that's where I think we could be very effective. Corruption, as you've mentioned, that really is the grease to everything the Chinese communists do globally. Take it away and then take away their access to dollars, convertible currency. And they've really got some problems. But they have played their hand very well today. But in some ways it's a house of cards. I don't think it's that hard to take on. But the longer you wait, the harder it gets. 00:17:52 SPEAKER_03 is the thing that makes it 00:17:54 JACK GAINES corruption to work and that's where I think We have some real opportunities to make it very clear what's being done. And this is something that, if you expose it, you can really capitalize on it. Just make it too hard to do this. And it also gives oxygen to the honest people in a country. It 00:18:16 JACK GAINES to work with. To take on these repressive regimes, these corrupt regimes, these corrupt regimes, 00:18:23 JACK GAINES them with honest people. I've never met anywhere, anywhere I've been. Over the years. Where 00:18:32 JACK GAINES I just haven't met it. I've been anywhere. I just haven't met it. I've been anywhere. It's just nothing you can do. But it's just nothing you can do. It really has an effect. And that's where I think government for sources could be effectively devoted. And particularly once you 00:18:46 GRANT NEWSHAM reporters in on it. Once you get the local. Honest locals in on it. Honest locals in on it. And that's where I think we could be very effective. 00:18:56 JACK GAINES Corruption, as you've mentioned, that really is the grease to everything the Chinese communists do globally. Take it away and then take away their access to dollars, convertible currency. And they've really got some 00:19:12 JACK GAINES today. But in some ways it's a house of cards. I don't think it's that hard to take on. But the longer you wait, the harder it 00:19:28 SPEAKER_02 In regards to U .S. policy, in policy, there really is a... a desire that the United States stays around in Asia, that maintains its military might, and is able to effectively safeguard what you call freedom consensual government. Because if you go around the region, nobody wants to be dominated by the PRC. But they do have a huge advantage, particularly economically, that they're seen by leaders and business people in a lot of these countries. That's really the source of... some wealth, some prosperity. And we would do well, for example, to see the fight as just as much an economic one as a military one. Because we could build up our military, rebuild it, and we could have 800 ships in the Navy, and still lose. If we don't fight on these other fronts, we don't want you here because we're doing too much business with China. And that's where the U .S., along with its friends, the Japanese, the Koreans, the Indians, the Australians, we would do well to operate together more and to see the economic front and the political warfare fronts as a priority effort as much, if not more, than the military. 00:19:30 SPEAKER_03 in policy, there 00:19:31 JACK GAINES really is a... a desire that the United States stays around in Asia, that maintains its military might, and is able to 00:19:45 JACK GAINES Because if you go around the region, nobody wants to be dominated by the PRC. But they do have a huge advantage, particularly economically, that they're seen by leaders and business people in a lot of these countries. That's really the source of... some wealth, some prosperity. And we would do well, for example, to see the fight as just as much an economic 00:20:09 GRANT NEWSHAM one as a military one. Because we could build up our military, rebuild it, and we could have 800 ships in the Navy, and still lose. If we don't 00:20:19 JACK GAINES on these other fronts, we don't want you here because we're doing too much business with China. And that's where the U .S., along with its friends, the Japanese, the Koreans, the Indians, the Australians, 00:20:30 GRANT NEWSHAM we would do well to operate together more and to see the economic front and the political warfare fronts as a priority effort as much, if not 00:20:40 JACK GAINES more, than the 00:20:45 SPEAKER_02 They have a role to play if they're properly harnessed. But you do know that these days you don't see the Yankee trader that used to exist. You'd run to Americans everywhere trying to sell something to do business. Not so much these days. And we've almost ceded the far -flung part to the world. Because, well, the return on investment isn't enough. That's not an attractive enough proposition. Well, then let's make it one. Plus, you do have, say, the Japanese, the Indians, who are much better at operating in these places, to put it together into a coherent plan. Understand what it is, political warfare, and not just block the Chinese political warfare effort, but actually have our own campaign. And it really is worth doing some homework, I think, for a lot of people into what political warfare is. One sees the opportunities, but it takes a certain type of person who's good at it. versus a civil affairs guy. Versus a civil affairs guy. He's going to see different... He's going to see parts of the battlefield in a different way. Yes, sometimes you want the tank. But then there's this other part of it all. That is almost like a liberal arts test. Here you have to figure out the motivations for things. You have to figure out how a society works. And then how do you appeal to it using the things that are parts of political warfare? And this is where you can really make some mileage. You've got to have both. Make no mistake. If you're not able to destroy things and kill people, the civil affairs part isn't going to get you very far. But combine the two, and then you've really got something that's very hard to take on if you're the bad guys. We talk about defending Taiwan, and how important it is, and it is, I think, indispensable, that China does not take Taiwan and enslave 23 million people. If they did that... 00:20:47 JACK GAINES they're properly harnessed. But you do know that these days you don't see the Yankee trader that used to exist. You'd run to Americans everywhere trying to sell something to do business. Not 00:20:59 SPEAKER_03 so much these days. And we've almost ceded the far -flung part to the world. Because, well, the return on investment isn't enough. That's not an attractive enough proposition. Well, then let's 00:21:10 GRANT NEWSHAM make it one. Plus, you do have, say, the Japanese, the Indians, who are much better at operating in these places, to put it together into a coherent plan. Understand what it 00:21:20 JACK GAINES is, political warfare, and not just block the Chinese political warfare effort, but actually have our own campaign. And it really is worth doing some homework, I think, for a lot of people into what political warfare is. One sees the opportunities, but it takes a certain type of person who's good at it. versus a civil affairs guy. Versus a civil affairs guy. He's going to see different... He's going to see parts of the battlefield in a different way. 00:21:50 SPEAKER_03 Yes, sometimes you want the tank. But then there's this other part of it all. That is almost like a liberal arts test. Here you have to figure 00:22:00 JACK GAINES for things. You have to figure out how a society works. And then how do you appeal to it using the things that are parts of political warfare? 00:22:10 JACK GAINES make some mileage. You've got to have both. Make no mistake. If you're not able to destroy things and kill people, the civil affairs part isn't going to get you very far. But combine the two, and then you've really got something that's very hard to take on if you're the bad guys. We talk about defending Taiwan, and how important it is, and it is, I think, indispensable, 00:22:32 GRANT NEWSHAM that China does not take Taiwan and enslave 23 million people. If they did that... 00:22:39 SPEAKER_02 Asia would turn red overnight, as every country tried to cut the best deal they could. No country anywhere on Earth would have much confidence in American promises that will protect them. But one of the ways to actually defend Taiwan is, yes, they could maybe use F -35s and long -range missiles and smart pines, etc. You do have to have all of this stuff. Is it enough, 00:22:39 GRANT NEWSHAM would turn red overnight, as every country tried 00:22:42 SPEAKER_03 to cut the best deal they could. No country anywhere 00:22:46 JACK GAINES on Earth would have much confidence in American promises that will protect them. But one of the ways to actually defend 00:22:51 GRANT NEWSHAM Taiwan is, yes, they could maybe use F -35s and long -range missiles and smart pines, etc. You do have to have all of this stuff. Is it enough, even? Particularly if the other side says, okay, we'll absorb whatever you can send at us, but you're finished. But one of the ways that... But one of the ways is to give them a free trade agreement to improve their economy to the point that the government felt like it had money to spend on defense. 00:23:02 SPEAKER_02 Particularly if the other side says, okay, we'll absorb whatever you can send at us, but you're finished. But one of the ways that... But one of the ways is to give them a free trade agreement to improve their economy to the point that the government felt like it had money to spend on defense. You get a certain confidence in the entire society when they're more prosperous. Salaries are very low in Taiwan. Make it so people feel like they've got more money. Can they can buy a house? Can they can buy a condominium? build up the economy and that has a ripple effect throughout the society and on their military itself. And yet we didn't do that. And I think that's where we should apply some effort. 00:23:11 JACK GAINES give them a free trade agreement to 00:23:16 JACK GAINES point that the government felt like it had money to spend on defense. You get a certain confidence in the entire society when they're more prosperous. Salaries are very low in Taiwan. Make it so people feel like they've got more money. Can they can buy a house? Can they can buy a condominium? 00:23:35 JACK GAINES the economy and that has a ripple effect throughout the society and on their military itself. And yet we didn't do that. And I think that's where we should apply some 00:24:25 SPEAKER_02 I think you're right. And it's essential that we start to understand. You look at much of the debate about us in China. What happens when the two forces go at each other? And that's almost like... Going up behind the Waffle House. Going up behind the Waffle House. To see who's the toughest guy in Prince William County. To see who's the toughest guy in Prince William County. Out back. But think of all the things that go into whether or not the two hoodlums. There's all sorts of reasons why. No, there may

On today's episode of Danceology, Edyta is joined by Hunter Lisle who owns the largest Arthur Murray dance studio in the United States. Get the tips to run a successful studio on today's bonus episode. @danceologypodcast   Hosted by: Edyta Sliwinska @edytasliwinska   To find more podcasts from Metacortex Publishing visit:   metacortexpublishing.com @metacortexpublishing   If you're interested in a sponsorship or advertising opportunity on one of our podcasts, or being a guest, please e-mail metacortexpublishing@gmail.com   #podcast #podcasting #spotifypodcast #applepodcast #youtubepodcast #iheartpodcast #pandorapodcast #audiblepodcast #amazonmusicpodcast #xmpodcast

Try breathwork free: https://www.brendawinkle.com/breathe In this episode of the "Yes Filled Life" podcast, Brenda Winkle shares her transformative experience participating in an Arthur Murray dance showcase. She discusses the exhilaration of learning salsa, bachata, and nightclub two-step, and the personal growth that came from stepping out of her comfort zone. Brenda reflects on the importance of joy, self-belief, and the influence of positive energy on others. She also touches on the dynamics of feminine and masculine energies in dance. Here are the takeaways... There's always more if you are willing to get out of your comfort zone to see the bigger picture. Having fun attracts people. It doesn't matter how good you are at something, what matters is how much you enjoy it. Don't worry about being the best. Focus on having fun. Joy fuels. Joy is contagious and fun. Abundance, opportunities and people respond to joy. It's magnetic and charasmitc. No matter how good you get, there is someone better than you. Don't let that stop you. Let that fuel you. People will mirror your belief back to you. When you believe in yourself, people will believe in you. Feminine and masculine energy are both essential. Sometimes we need to practice leaning into one over the other. Learn More about Yes Academy - The Retreat https://www.brendawinkle.com/retreat Learn More about Yes Academy https://www.brendawinkle.com/yesacademy Contact Brenda Website: https://www.brendawinkle.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brendawinkle/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/brenda.winkle111 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@brendawinkle111 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendawinkle/ Keywords: Brenda Winkle, Yes Filled Life podcast, dance showcase, salsa, bachata, nightclub two-step, personal empowerment, dance journey, Arthur Murray dance studio, stepping out of comfort zone, joy, belief in oneself, embracing new experiences, self-belief, feminine and masculine energies in dance, Yes Academy, in-person retreat, inner child healing expert, podcast episodes.

No One Will Save You (2023) ALL MOVIES SPOILED In this Midnight Movie, Matt Landsman, the curator of Matt's Mortuary and film programmer at Be Kind Video, beams Jeremy and Brian to the mothership to save them with Arthur Murray dance steps. If you haven't seen No One Will Save You, go watch it and come back. The movie is spoiled from top to bottom. Follow Matt here: Matt's Mortuary Be Kind Video Washington Post Article on Be Kind Video Where to watch: Be Kind Video (Burbank) Vidéothèque (South Pasadena) Cinefile (Santa Monica) No One Will Save You (Blu-ray) Other films referenced: Home Alone Evil Dead II Chopping Mall The Blob (1988) Alligator Ghoulies The Gate (1987) The Monster Squad Re-Animator Wayne's World Live and Let Die Signs (2002) Straw Dogs (1971) The Fugitive (1993) Silent Night (2023) Chasing Amy Super 8 Jaws Close Encounters of the Third Kind E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial Fire in the Sky (1993) Brain Damage (1988) Basket Case Men in Black Alien (1979) Aliens Beetlejuice Pleasantville Annihilation The Matrix Black Mirror: San Junipero Mars Attacks! Prey (2022) The Killer (2023) The Scorpion King (2002) The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) Avatar: The Way of Water War for the Planet of the Apes Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: The Movie Mortal Kombat: Annihilation Escape from L.A. Sleepaway Camp Surf Ninjas Night of the Creeps

In 1949 the nine women of the Arthur Murray Girls baseball team took the field against the all-male squad from the Patchogue Athletics. By that year, the Murrays had been together as a semi-pro outfit for some time. Formed out of the sandlots and playgrounds of Queens, they grew under the tutelage of New York Times sportswriter Mike Strauss to become the nucleus of a league that by the late 1940s became the American Girls Baseball Conference. On today's episode, historian and Suffolk County Community College librarian Fabio Montella presents his research into the Murrays, their game with Patchogue, and their full, storied history. Although based out of Cedarhurst in Nassau County, the women traveled a loop that saw them taking the field against the likes of the Glen Cove Clovers, the Perth Amboy Cardinalettes, and the Stamford Nutmegs. Fabio also introduces us to Gloria Del Percio, the last living member of the Arthur Murray Girls. The story of 20th century women's baseball has been popularized by the movie A League of Their Own, but women had their own leagues all across the country. The Murray Girls encapsulate that story at the local level, both as a team and as individual women who loved to play the game. Further Research The Arthur Murray Girls circa 1953 (Getty Images) "Girls' Nine Next Opponent for A's." (Patchogue Advance) "Recognizing an Unsung Women's Baseball Hero" (LI Herald) Audio Footnotes The Cuban Giants of Long Island Satchel Paige in Riverhead

Arthur Murray was born with the name Moses Teichman. He's probably related to host Rachel Teichman! Learn all about his life and legacy as read by Rachel Teichman, LMSW and Victor Varnado, KSN.Produced and hosted by Victor Varnado & Rachel TeichmanFull Wikipedia article here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Murray?fbclid=IwAR1ZAxFWQJwQvvH2bz662VakPh_I8HERR-PQyqQ_pkjGmq_6ZhdaJ1FjLHUWE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT ON PATREON!https://www.patreon.com/wikilistenpodcastFind us on social media!https://www.facebook.com/WikiListenInstagram @WikiListenTwitter @Wiki_ListenGet bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

"Too Tall Teichman" was a high school dropout who wanted to make something of himself and become an esteemed architect. But how would the boy from the lesser side of New York pay for his education? One night, his long legs wandered to the local ballroom where he was pushed into a dance competition. That very night, he was offered a new job, one he never expected. Tune in for the rest of the story!https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Murray

PAUL HARVEY's "The rest of the story" topic: Arthur Murray.  Arthur Murray (born Moses Teichman, (April 4, 1895 – March 3, 1991) was an American ballroom dancer and businessman, whose name is most often associated with the dance studio chain that bears his name.

The podcasting world was rocked by scandal last week when it was revealed that guests have been paying up to $50,000 to appear on podcasts. Which means one thing. Our past guests owe us A LOT of money! Tom and Julie welcome past guest Sean Clements (Hollywood Handbook) to discuss a payment plan. Plus Tom and Julie dictate an email for Producer Brett to send to podcast guest marketplace Guestio. An in-depth reinvestigation of the Robert Loggia Minute Maid commercial. Tom and Julie come up with two new hit stage shows - Boomerpalooza and A Totally Effed Up Christmas, featuring Charlie Claus, Gacy the Red Nosed Murderer, Jack Skellington jerking off, raccoons, Jersey Mike's, and more. Also Frank Sinatra, Sonny & Cher, Producer Brett tries to negotiate a repeat, Ed Gains: Fashion Influencer, Arthur Murray's Wild West Dance Studio, Bloomberg's Gonna Win!, Jordan Peterson is The Fly, Skrillex, Mumford and Sons, We Built This City on Rock 'n Roll (But This is Not a Rock Song), Easy Money, James Franco as Fidel Castro, Madonna's Bored Ape, and Patrick Schwarzenegger is rude at restaurants. "Podcast Guests Are Paying Up to $50,000 to Appear on Popular Shows" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-03/podcast-guests-can-pay-big-money-to-be-on-top-shows Robert Loggia Minute Maid Commercial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZIzRqDOSZo BUY TICKETS TO DOUBLE THREAT LIVE! 2ND NEW YORK DATE ADDED! *September 28 2022 - Los Angeles - Lodge Room - https://www.lodgeroomhlp.com/shows/double-threat-podcast *October 21 2022 - Brooklyn - The Bell House - https://www.eventbrite.com/e/double-threat-hosted-by-julie-klausner-tom-scharpling-tickets-330645087357 JOIN FOREVER DOG PLUS FOR VIDEO EPISODES, AD-FREE EPISODES, & BONUS CONTENT: http://foreverdog.plus JOIN THE DOUBLE THREAT FAN GROUPS: *Discord https://discord.com/invite/PrcwsbuaJx *Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/doublethreatfriends *Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/doublethreatfriends DOUBLE THREAT MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/double-threat SEND SUBMISSIONS TO: DoubleThreatPod@gmail.com FOLLOW DOUBLE THREAT: https://twitter.com/doublethreatpod https://www.instagram.com/doublethreatpod DOUBLE THREAT IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST: https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/double-threat Theme song by Mike Krol Artwork by Michael Kupperman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Happy Birthday to Antony Tudor, Arthur Murray, Pierre Lacotte, and Ben Stevenson. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dawn-davis-loring/support

Victoria Regan is a former US Latin Champion, 5X Canadian Ballroom and Latin Champion, N. American 10 Dance Champion and British Latin Finalist. Broadway credits include the Original Cast of "42nd Street"and Broadway and the National Tour of "Grand Hotel." She played"LaFleur"in the musical "Nine" in Naples, Florida. Ms. Regan Appears in the films "A Chorus Line" and "Annie" and has performed in many concerts. Victoria is the Global Ambassador for Arthur Murray, Inc. Victoria is a Guest Artist with the "Broadway Theatre Project" in Tampa originated by Ann Reinking and now Debra McWaters. She has her own series of Ballroom Dance Tapes titled, "You Can Dance". With all the accolades and achievements Victoria has from Dance and Theatre you might think that we will talk about that mostly. For sure that would have made a interesting podcast, but we'll talk more about why it is important to chase your dreams, put your life in service of others and empowering others while you do all this… www.victoriaregan.com info@jeandorffcoaching.com  

Episode 31  and we welcome Arthur Murray and Tadhg O'Keeffe from Cork alt-rock trio Ash RedHot on the heels of their recently released third single Downtown, we chat about the formation of the band, evolution to the current line up and future plans. We also get a deep psychological insight into their minds via our either/or section (this may not be entirely accurate!).If you were wondering where the name Ash Red comes from, the inspiration behind The Stupid Song, how and where they record and who their musical heroes are then this is the podcast for you. Plus you get a sneak preview of a demo of a new track Falling Down (Around Us). Ash Red's The Stupid Song appears on our second Blowtorch Records vinyl compilationAsh Red tracks played:DowntownPhilbyThe Stupid SongFalling Down (Around Us) unreleased demoYou can find Ash Red on:InstagramTwitterSpotify

Arthur Murray Theater Show My guests this week on Jim on the Air are Serge Chmelnitzki and Kristen Salazar. They are co-owners of the Arthur Murray Dance Studio in Santa Barbara. Arthur Murray will be performing at Center Stage Theater in Santa Barbara. After a two-year break, the students and professional dancers of the Arthur Murray Dance Studios in Santa Barbara are excited to invite you back to enjoy a cornucopia of theatrical routines and beautiful dancing. Dancers range from brand new students who show off how much you can accomplish within a few months to accomplished competitive dancers who travel the world and wow audiences with their impressive skills. About the organizer: The Arthur Murray Dance Studios are the biggest private dance organization in the world, teaching the world to dance since 1912. With nearly 300 studios in more than 21 countries, Arthur Murray stays committed to the highest level of instruction through fully certified instructors who are constantly learning and improving their craft. By the way, the Santa Barbara studio has been around since 1948! http://www.arthurmurraysocal.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jim-sirianni/support

[本集節目由 Arthur Murray 亞曼瑞國際舞蹈教學 贊助播出] 台北舞蹈首推亞曼瑞舞蹈教學，國際品牌，美國明星首選，首創系統教學；改變人生，就從跳舞開始吧！（FB:https://bit.ly/3DYM0hp｜IG:https://bit.ly/2Ziyd6x） 歡迎收聽週間電愛特輯！ 今日主題：老少配｜最近追的劇｜想像自己的告別式 *未滿18歲請勿收聽* [歡迎乾爹乾媽來包養] 廠商合作請來信: dirtytalk2020@gmail.com [聊得喉嚨好乾，請我們吃川貝枇杷膏啦！] 讓我們有動力製作更多有趣的內容給大家:)) 捐款連結：https://pay.firstory.me/user/dirtytalk2020  [吼~追蹤一下FB跟IG，或是語音留言給我們喔] https://linkby.tw/dirtytalk2020 Powered by Firstory Hosting

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[本集節目由 Arthur Murray 亞曼瑞國際舞蹈教學 贊助播出] 台北舞蹈首推亞曼瑞舞蹈教學，國際品牌，美國明星首選，首創系統教學；改變人生，就從跳舞開始吧！（FB:https://bit.ly/3DYM0hp｜IG:https://bit.ly/2Ziyd6x） [出櫃就跟考試一樣，永遠沒有準備好的一天]

[本集節目由 Arthur Murray 亞曼瑞國際舞蹈教學 贊助播出] 台北舞蹈首推亞曼瑞舞蹈教學，國際品牌，美國明星首選，首創系統教學；改變人生，就從跳舞開始吧！（FB:https://bit.ly/3DYM0hp｜IG:https://bit.ly/2Ziyd6x） 歡迎收聽週間電愛特輯！ 今日主題：GG太大在軍中被霸凌？老阿姨的女兵回憶錄下集(KKNOW直播精華) *未滿18歲請勿收聽* [歡迎乾爹乾媽來包養] 廠商合作請來信: dirtytalk2020@gmail.com [聊得喉嚨好乾，請我們吃川貝枇杷膏啦！] 讓我們有動力製作更多有趣的內容給大家:)) 捐款連結：https://pay.firstory.me/user/dirtytalk2020  [吼~追蹤一下FB跟IG，或是語音留言給我們喔] https://linkby.tw/dirtytalk2020 Powered by Firstory Hosting

[本集節目由 Arthur Murray 亞曼瑞國際舞蹈教學 贊助播出] 台北舞蹈首推亞曼瑞舞蹈教學，國際品牌，美國明星首選，首創系統教學；改變人生，就從跳舞開始吧！（FB:https://bit.ly/3DYM0hp｜IG:https://bit.ly/2Ziyd6x） 歡迎收聽週間電愛特輯！ 今日主題：軍中吃大便被驗退？老阿姨的女兵回憶錄上集(KKNOW直播精華) *未滿18歲請勿收聽* [歡迎乾爹乾媽來包養] 廠商合作請來信: dirtytalk2020@gmail.com [聊得喉嚨好乾，請我們吃川貝枇杷膏啦！] 讓我們有動力製作更多有趣的內容給大家:)) 捐款連結：https://pay.firstory.me/user/dirtytalk2020  [吼~追蹤一下FB跟IG，或是語音留言給我們喔] https://linkby.tw/dirtytalk2020 Powered by Firstory Hosting

[本集節目由 Arthur Murray 亞曼瑞國際舞蹈教學 贊助播出] 台北舞蹈首推亞曼瑞舞蹈教學，國際品牌，美國明星首選，首創系統教學；改變人生，就從跳舞開始吧！（FB:https://bit.ly/3DYM0hp｜IG:https://bit.ly/2Ziyd6x） [憂鬱症患者也有喜怒哀樂！非長時間相處難察覺]

[本集節目由 Arthur Murray 亞曼瑞國際舞蹈教學 贊助播出] 台北舞蹈首推亞曼瑞舞蹈教學，國際品牌，美國明星首選，首創系統教學；改變人生，就從跳舞開始吧！（FB:https://bit.ly/3DYM0hp｜IG:https://bit.ly/2Ziyd6x） 歡迎收聽週間電愛特輯！ 今日主題：Do Bar活動行前會(阿姨的小叮嚀) *未滿18歲請勿收聽* [歡迎乾爹乾媽來包養] 廠商合作請來信: dirtytalk2020@gmail.com [聊得喉嚨好乾，請我們吃川貝枇杷膏啦！] 讓我們有動力製作更多有趣的內容給大家:)) 捐款連結：https://pay.firstory.me/user/dirtytalk2020  [吼~追蹤一下FB跟IG，或是語音留言給我們喔] https://linkby.tw/dirtytalk2020 Powered by Firstory Hosting

[本集節目由 Arthur Murray 亞曼瑞國際舞蹈教學 贊助播出] 台北舞蹈首推亞曼瑞舞蹈教學，國際品牌，美國明星首選，首創系統教學；改變人生，就從跳舞開始吧！（FB:https://bit.ly/3DYM0hp｜IG:https://bit.ly/2Ziyd6x） 歡迎收聽週間電愛特輯！ 今日主題：偷吃一定會有報應？人在做天在看！老何抓包前男友偷吃的精采故事 *未滿18歲請勿收聽* [聊得喉嚨好乾，請我們吃川貝枇杷膏啦！] 讓我們有動力製作更多有趣的內容給大家:)) 捐款連結：https://pay.firstory.me/user/dirtytalk2020  [吼~追蹤一下FB跟IG，或是語音留言給我們喔] https://linkby.tw/dirtytalk2020 Powered by Firstory Hosting

[本集節目由 Arthur Murray 亞曼瑞國際舞蹈教學 贊助播出] 台北舞蹈首推亞曼瑞舞蹈教學，國際品牌，美國明星首選，首創系統教學；改變人生，就從跳舞開始吧！（FB:https://bit.ly/3DYM0hp｜IG:https://bit.ly/2Ziyd6x） [抓包偷吃留陰影，沒分手只是因為捨不得！硬撐的愛情不會持久]

[本集節目由 Arthur Murray 亞曼瑞國際舞蹈教學 贊助播出] 台北舞蹈首推亞曼瑞舞蹈教學，國際品牌，美國明星首選，首創系統教學；改變人生，就從跳舞開始吧！（FB:https://bit.ly/3DYM0hp｜IG:https://bit.ly/2Ziyd6x） 歡迎收聽週間電愛特輯！ 今日主題：阿姨閒聊｜去亞曼瑞搖一下｜貴智的粉絲男女比 *未滿18歲請勿收聽* [歡迎乾爹乾媽來包養] 廠商合作請來信: dirtytalk2020@gmail.com [聊得喉嚨好乾，請我們吃川貝枇杷膏啦！] 讓我們有動力製作更多有趣的內容給大家:)) 捐款連結：https://pay.firstory.me/user/dirtytalk2020  [吼~追蹤一下FB跟IG，或是語音留言給我們喔] https://linkby.tw/dirtytalk2020 Powered by Firstory Hosting

[本集節目由 Arthur Murray 亞曼瑞國際舞蹈教學 贊助播出] 台北舞蹈首推亞曼瑞舞蹈教學，國際品牌，美國明星首選，首創系統教學；改變人生，就從跳舞開始吧！（FB:https://bit.ly/3DYM0hp｜IG:https://bit.ly/2Ziyd6x） 歡迎收聽週間電愛特輯！ 今日主題：阿姨閒聊｜貴智的理想型 *未滿18歲請勿收聽* [歡迎乾爹乾媽來包養] 廠商合作請來信: dirtytalk2020@gmail.com [聊得喉嚨好乾，請我們吃川貝枇杷膏啦！] 讓我們有動力製作更多有趣的內容給大家:)) 捐款連結：https://pay.firstory.me/user/dirtytalk2020  [吼~追蹤一下FB跟IG，或是語音留言給我們喔] https://linkby.tw/dirtytalk2020 Powered by Firstory Hosting

[本集節目由 Arthur Murray 亞曼瑞國際舞蹈教學 贊助播出] 台北舞蹈首推亞曼瑞舞蹈教學，國際品牌，美國明星首選，首創系統教學；改變人生，就從跳舞開始吧！（FB:https://bit.ly/3DYM0hp｜IG:https://bit.ly/2Ziyd6x） [《一年的告白》感動上萬聽眾，但製作人卻大崩潰？]

Shakera Jones and Arthur Murray, President of Flambeaux Wine, discuss the transition from environmental law to wine, the Sonoma fires, and the theme of family. *Don't miss Shakera's Drink Along with Jill Zimorski MS with the film A Year in Champagne, September 27th on SOMM TV! Get the same two Champagnes they'll be drinking on screen for $100 at vivino.com/sommtv including free shipping (SHIP15)

Karen shares two stories of where her confidence started back when she was 18 years old. It involves Mary Kay cosmetics and Arthur Murray dance studio. Three highlights in this solo episode:You have to trick your brain (tune in for what anxious reappraisal is and how to leverage it for YOUR confidence!)Be kind to yourself. It takes time to change habitsFeel the fear and do it anyway!About me:Karen Laos is a keynote speaker and leadership coach equipping women to stand out with unshakable confidence. She specializes in communication: executive presence and compelling messages. Karen champions female business leaders to own their value and find their voice so they can be seen and heard. She also works with teams to create cultures of trust and function at their best.Karen has coached leaders at Facebook, Google, Netflix, Uber, Sephora, Sony, Microsoft, Fidelity, Charles Schwab, Trip Advisor, Bacardi, Levi, and more. Karen's style is fun, encouraging and results-oriented. She immediately moves past the “fluff” and gets straight to the issue (just ask her clients).Connect with me:Website: https://www.karenlaos.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karenlaosconsultingFacebook: Ignite Your Confidence with Karen Laos: https://www.facebook.com/groups/karenlaosconsultingLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karenlaos/Clubhouse: @karenlaosEpisodes also available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEwQoTGdJX5eME0ccBKiKng/videos:

Cindie Chavez returns to LOA Today, and it’s a grand reunion as she and Monique Scott get to know each other. As Walt predicted, the two of them amplify the “daily dose of happy” to new stratospheric heights! Cindie tells us a bit about some of the things she’s been doing in the intervening months. Then Walt brings in a question from Facebook about what to do when you don’t really know what you desire. Here are the YouTube links Monique supplied to the videos of the Neville Goddard student who manifested the Arthur Murray franchise in that famous Neville story: https://youtu.be/MCYZxeWuO34 https://youtu.be/hKaEpbNjU20 Use the LOA Today app to send in your question for us to discuss. To get the free LOA Today app go to: https://www.loatoday.net/listen #loatoday #lawofattraction #manifesting #vibration #podcast #deliberatecreators #Q&A #moniquescott #cindiechavez #waltthiessen #loatodayapp

Cindie Chavez returns to LOA Today, and it's a grand reunion as she and Monique Scott get to know each other. As Walt predicted, the two of them amplify the "daily dose of happy" to new stratospheric heights! Cindie tells us a bit about some of the things she's been doing in the intervening months. Then Walt brings in a question from Facebook about what to do when you don't really know what you desire. Here are the YouTube links Monique supplied to the videos of the Neville Goddard student who manifested the Arthur Murray franchise in that famous Neville story: https://youtu.be/MCYZxeWuO34 https://youtu.be/hKaEpbNjU20

...In a hurry!

Sexta-feira 361 de dezembro de 2019, parece que foi ontem que o último episódio do Nerdcast RPG: Cthulhu foi lançado não é mesmo? Esta é a hora do capítulo final, então prepare-se para mergulhar no vazio mais uma vez com Jovem Nerd, Azaghal, Tucano, Rex, Carlos Voltor e Leonel Caldela em mais um Nerdcast Especial de RPG!  Neste podcast: O mundo está à beira do apocalipse enquanto os cultistas se preparam para usar o Necronomicon na ilha de Heligoland. Os investigadores sacrificaram tudo na rota para o confronto final. Feridos e desesperados, eles são a última esperança de deter o ritual que irá invocar o Grande Cthulhu! E para ter mais conteúdo sobre o Nerdcast RPG: Cthulhu, participe da campanha em www.nerdcastrpg.com.br. Apoiando, você recebe a Bibliotheca Cthulhiana, composta de quatro publicações — um romance inédito em dois volumes, uma graphic novel e um livro-jogo, todos ambientados no universo do RPG — além de colecionáveis exclusivos! Após escutar, compartilhe suas opiniões (SEM spoilers) usando a hashtag #NerdcastRPG nas redes sociais, ou participe da thread oficial com spoilers em www.twitter.com/realthotep. Não recomendado para menores de 16 anos  “Não está morto o que pode eternamente jazer. E em eras estranhas até a morte pode morrer” ALTAMENTE RECOMENDÁVEL OUVIR COM FONES DE OUVIDO O NERDCAST RPG CTHULHU é baseado na obra de H.P. Lovecraft HISTÓRIA por Leonel Caldela DIREÇÃO E MONTAGEM: Deive Pazos MIXAGEM E SONORIZAÇÃO: Alexandre Ottoni TRILHA SONORA ORIGINAL: Bruno Gouveia (Govis) PERSONAGENS: DON AZAGHAL: Deive Pazos THOMAS FARADAY: Alexandre Ottoni JIMMY O'FLANNAGAN: Fernando Russell (Tucano) STEPHEN VENKMAN: Carlos Voltor GIACOMO “BÚFALO" DI MONTI: Tiago De La'Marca (Rex) NYARLATHOTEP:Leo Castilhos NECRONOMICON: Frederico Carstens (Sr.K) VON BASF: Frederico Carstens (Sr.K) CIGANO IGOR: Afonso Tresdê FRAU EISENKIMMER: Alan Duboc HEINRICH HIMMLER: Guilherme Briggs PARTICIPAÇÃO ESPECIAL: João Paulo Miguel (JP) VOZES DOS ROSTOS DOS FACELESS NO BUNKER Agatha Duboc Ottoni, Alanna Cunha, Anna Luíza Villela, Antonio Braugini, Arthur Murray, Beatriz Tavernaro, Brunna Arrais, Casa Reis, Davi William de Souza Borges, Dause Richter, Erick Guedes Matos, Erik Guedes, Felipe Bilharva da Silva, Guilherme Andreazza de Freitas, Jéssica Dalcin da Silva, Karina Reinhold, Katiucha Barcelos, Leon Branquinho Kurowski, Mario Freitas, Matheus Enrique, Natália Dorlitz, Stephaine Pendl, Rafael Figueiredo, Renata Tubor, Thaís Lima, Jerfferson Araújo, Vanlee Bogdan, Victor Gasulla, Vinicius Mendes VOZES ADICIONAIS: Leo Lopes, Jef Barbosa e Eduardo Sierra LOCUÇÃO: Élcio Romar DIREÇÃO DE LOCUÇÃO: Beatriz Rodrigues SUPERVISÃO DE DECOUPAGEM, SFX E FOLLEY: Leo Lopes DECOUPAGEM: Thiago Miro SELEÇÃO DE SFX E FOLLEY  Jef Barbosa e Eduardo Sierra SUPORTE TÉCNICO: Diego Moreno e Richard Kloppe CONSULTORIA CIENTÍFICA: Caio Gomes ARTE DA VITRINE: André Meister OUÇA TAMBÉM RPG Cthulhu 1: O mistério de William Faraday: http://bit.ly/2muWakC RPG Cthulhu 2: O horror do Necronomicon: https://bit.ly/2rcaVKz RPG Cthulhu 3: O despertar dos profundos: https://bit.ly/3h8tUiO E-MAILS Mande suas críticas, elogios, sugestões e caneladas para nerdcast@jovemnerd.com.br

Sexta-feira 361 de dezembro de 2019, parece que foi ontem que o último episódio do Nerdcast RPG: Cthulhu foi lançado não é mesmo? Esta é a hora do capítulo final, então prepare-se para mergulhar no vazio mais uma vez com Jovem Nerd, Azaghal, Tucano, Rex, Carlos Voltor e Leonel Caldela em mais um Nerdcast Especial de RPG!  Neste podcast: O mundo está à beira do apocalipse enquanto os cultistas se preparam para usar o Necronomicon na ilha de Heligoland. Os investigadores sacrificaram tudo na rota para o confronto final. Feridos e desesperados, eles são a última esperança de deter o ritual que irá invocar o Grande Cthulhu! E para ter mais conteúdo sobre o Nerdcast RPG: Cthulhu, participe da campanha em www.nerdcastrpg.com.br. Apoiando, você recebe a Bibliotheca Cthulhiana, composta de quatro publicações — um romance inédito em dois volumes, uma graphic novel e um livro-jogo, todos ambientados no universo do RPG — além de colecionáveis exclusivos! Após escutar, compartilhe suas opiniões (SEM spoilers) usando a hashtag #NerdcastRPG nas redes sociais, ou participe da thread oficial com spoilers em www.twitter.com/realthotep. Não recomendado para menores de 16 anos  “Não está morto o que pode eternamente jazer. E em eras estranhas até a morte pode morrer” ALTAMENTE RECOMENDÁVEL OUVIR COM FONES DE OUVIDO O NERDCAST RPG CTHULHU é baseado na obra de H.P. Lovecraft HISTÓRIA por Leonel Caldela DIREÇÃO E MONTAGEM: Deive Pazos MIXAGEM E SONORIZAÇÃO: Alexandre Ottoni TRILHA SONORA ORIGINAL: Bruno Gouveia (Govis) PERSONAGENS: DON AZAGHAL: Deive Pazos THOMAS FARADAY: Alexandre Ottoni JIMMY O'FLANNAGAN: Fernando Russell (Tucano) STEPHEN VENKMAN: Carlos Voltor GIACOMO “BÚFALO" DI MONTI: Tiago De La'Marca (Rex) NYARLATHOTEP:Leo Castilhos NECRONOMICON: Frederico Carstens (Sr.K) VON BASF: Frederico Carstens (Sr.K) CIGANO IGOR: Afonso Tresdê FRAU EISENKIMMER: Alan Duboc HEINRICH HIMMLER: Guilherme Briggs PARTICIPAÇÃO ESPECIAL: João Paulo Miguel (JP) VOZES DOS ROSTOS DOS FACELESS NO BUNKER Agatha Duboc Ottoni, Alanna Cunha, Anna Luíza Villela, Antonio Braugini, Arthur Murray, Beatriz Tavernaro, Brunna Arrais, Casa Reis, Davi William de Souza Borges, Dause Richter, Erick Guedes Matos, Erik Guedes, Felipe Bilharva da Silva, Guilherme Andreazza de Freitas, Jéssica Dalcin da Silva, Karina Reinhold, Katiucha Barcelos, Leon Branquinho Kurowski, Mario Freitas, Matheus Enrique, Natália Dorlitz, Stephaine Pendl, Rafael Figueiredo, Renata Tubor, Thaís Lima, Jerfferson Araújo, Vanlee Bogdan, Victor Gasulla, Vinicius Mendes VOZES ADICIONAIS: Leo Lopes, Jef Barbosa e Eduardo Sierra LOCUÇÃO: Élcio Romar DIREÇÃO DE LOCUÇÃO: Beatriz Rodrigues SUPERVISÃO DE DECOUPAGEM, SFX E FOLLEY: Leo Lopes DECOUPAGEM: Thiago Miro SELEÇÃO DE SFX E FOLLEY  Jef Barbosa e Eduardo Sierra SUPORTE TÉCNICO: Diego Moreno e Richard Kloppe CONSULTORIA CIENTÍFICA: Caio Gomes ARTE DA VITRINE: André Meister OUÇA TAMBÉM RPG Cthulhu 1: O mistério de William Faraday: http://bit.ly/2muWakC RPG Cthulhu 2: O horror do Necronomicon: https://bit.ly/2rcaVKz RPG Cthulhu 3: O despertar dos profundos: https://bit.ly/3h8tUiO E-MAILS Mande suas críticas, elogios, sugestões e caneladas para nerdcast@jovemnerd.com.br

Sexta-feira 361 de dezembro de 2019, parece que foi ontem que o último episódio do Nerdcast RPG: Cthulhu foi lançado não é mesmo? Esta é a hora do capítulo final, então prepare-se para mergulhar no vazio mais uma vez com Jovem Nerd, Azaghal, Tucano, Rex, Carlos Voltor e Leonel Caldela em mais um Nerdcast Especial de RPG!  Neste podcast: O mundo está à beira do apocalipse enquanto os cultistas se preparam para usar o Necronomicon na ilha de Heligoland. Os investigadores sacrificaram tudo na rota para o confronto final. Feridos e desesperados, eles são a última esperança de deter o ritual que irá invocar o Grande Cthulhu! E para ter mais conteúdo sobre o Nerdcast RPG: Cthulhu, participe da campanha em www.nerdcastrpg.com.br. Apoiando, você recebe a Bibliotheca Cthulhiana, composta de quatro publicações — um romance inédito em dois volumes, uma graphic novel e um livro-jogo, todos ambientados no universo do RPG — além de colecionáveis exclusivos! Após escutar, compartilhe suas opiniões (SEM spoilers) usando a hashtag #NerdcastRPG nas redes sociais, ou participe da thread oficial com spoilers em www.twitter.com/realthotep. Não recomendado para menores de 16 anos  “Não está morto o que pode eternamente jazer. E em eras estranhas até a morte pode morrer” ALTAMENTE RECOMENDÁVEL OUVIR COM FONES DE OUVIDO O NERDCAST RPG CTHULHU é baseado na obra de H.P. Lovecraft HISTÓRIA por Leonel Caldela DIREÇÃO E MONTAGEM: Deive Pazos MIXAGEM E SONORIZAÇÃO: Alexandre Ottoni TRILHA SONORA ORIGINAL: Bruno Gouveia (Govis) PERSONAGENS: DON AZAGHAL: Deive Pazos THOMAS FARADAY: Alexandre Ottoni JIMMY O'FLANNAGAN: Fernando Russell (Tucano) STEPHEN VENKMAN: Carlos Voltor GIACOMO “BÚFALO" DI MONTI: Tiago De La'Marca (Rex) NYARLATHOTEP:Leo Castilhos NECRONOMICON: Frederico Carstens (Sr.K) VON BASF: Frederico Carstens (Sr.K) CIGANO IGOR: Afonso Tresdê FRAU EISENKIMMER: Alan Duboc HEINRICH HIMMLER: Guilherme Briggs PARTICIPAÇÃO ESPECIAL: João Paulo Miguel (JP) VOZES DOS ROSTOS DOS FACELESS NO BUNKER Agatha Duboc Ottoni, Alanna Cunha, Anna Luíza Villela, Antonio Braugini, Arthur Murray, Beatriz Tavernaro, Brunna Arrais, Casa Reis, Davi William de Souza Borges, Dause Richter, Erick Guedes Matos, Erik Guedes, Felipe Bilharva da Silva, Guilherme Andreazza de Freitas, Jéssica Dalcin da Silva, Karina Reinhold, Katiucha Barcelos, Leon Branquinho Kurowski, Mario Freitas, Matheus Enrique, Natália Dorlitz, Stephaine Pendl, Rafael Figueiredo, Renata Tubor, Thaís Lima, Jerfferson Araújo, Vanlee Bogdan, Victor Gasulla, Vinicius Mendes VOZES ADICIONAIS: Leo Lopes, Jef Barbosa e Eduardo Sierra LOCUÇÃO: Élcio Romar DIREÇÃO DE LOCUÇÃO: Beatriz Rodrigues SUPERVISÃO DE DECOUPAGEM, SFX E FOLLEY: Leo Lopes DECOUPAGEM: Thiago Miro SELEÇÃO DE SFX E FOLLEY  Jef Barbosa e Eduardo Sierra SUPORTE TÉCNICO: Diego Moreno e Richard Kloppe CONSULTORIA CIENTÍFICA: Caio Gomes ARTE DA VITRINE: André Meister OUÇA TAMBÉM RPG Call of Cthulhu 1: O mistério de William Faraday: http://bit.ly/2muWakC RPG Call of Cthulhu 2: O horror do Necronomicon: https://bit.ly/2rcaVKz RPG Call of Cthulhu 3: O despertar dos profundos: https://bit.ly/3h8tUiO E-MAILS Mande suas críticas, elogios, sugestões e caneladas para nerdcast@jovemnerd.com.br

Sexta-feira 361 de dezembro de 2019, parece que foi ontem que o último episódio do Nerdcast RPG: Cthulhu foi lançado não é mesmo? Esta é a hora do capítulo final, então prepare-se para mergulhar no vazio mais uma vez com Jovem Nerd, Azaghal, Tucano, Rex, Carlos Voltor e Leonel Caldela em mais um Nerdcast Especial de RPG!  Neste podcast: O mundo está à beira do apocalipse enquanto os cultistas se preparam para usar o Necronomicon na ilha de Heligoland. Os investigadores sacrificaram tudo na rota para o confronto final. Feridos e desesperados, eles são a última esperança de deter o ritual que irá invocar o Grande Cthulhu! E para ter mais conteúdo sobre o Nerdcast RPG: Cthulhu, participe da campanha em www.nerdcastrpg.com.br. Apoiando, você recebe a Bibliotheca Cthulhiana, composta de quatro publicações — um romance inédito em dois volumes, uma graphic novel e um livro-jogo, todos ambientados no universo do RPG — além de colecionáveis exclusivos! Após escutar, compartilhe suas opiniões (SEM spoilers) usando a hashtag #NerdcastRPG nas redes sociais, ou participe da thread oficial com spoilers em www.twitter.com/realthotep. Não recomendado para menores de 16 anos  “Não está morto o que pode eternamente jazer. E em eras estranhas até a morte pode morrer” ALTAMENTE RECOMENDÁVEL OUVIR COM FONES DE OUVIDO O NERDCAST RPG CTHULHU é baseado na obra de H.P. Lovecraft HISTÓRIA por Leonel Caldela DIREÇÃO E MONTAGEM: Deive Pazos MIXAGEM E SONORIZAÇÃO: Alexandre Ottoni TRILHA SONORA ORIGINAL: Bruno Gouveia (Govis) PERSONAGENS: DON AZAGHAL: Deive Pazos THOMAS FARADAY: Alexandre Ottoni JIMMY O’FLANNAGAN: Fernando Russell (Tucano) STEPHEN VENKMAN: Carlos Voltor GIACOMO “BÚFALO" DI MONTI: Tiago De La’Marca (Rex) NYARLATHOTEP:Leo Castilhos NECRONOMICON: Frederico Carstens (Sr.K) VON BASF: Frederico Carstens (Sr.K) CIGANO IGOR: Afonso Tresdê FRAU EISENKIMMER: Alan Duboc HEINRICH HIMMLER: Guilherme Briggs PARTICIPAÇÃO ESPECIAL: João Paulo Miguel (JP) VOZES DOS ROSTOS DOS FACELESS NO BUNKER Agatha Duboc Ottoni, Alanna Cunha, Anna Luíza Villela, Antonio Braugini, Arthur Murray, Beatriz Tavernaro, Brunna Arrais, Casa Reis, Davi William de Souza Borges, Dause Richter, Erick Guedes Matos, Erik Guedes, Felipe Bilharva da Silva, Guilherme Andreazza de Freitas, Jéssica Dalcin da Silva, Karina Reinhold, Katiucha Barcelos, Leon Branquinho Kurowski, Mario Freitas, Matheus Enrique, Natália Dorlitz, Stephaine Pendl, Rafael Figueiredo, Renata Tubor, Thaís Lima, Jerfferson Araújo, Vanlee Bogdan, Victor Gasulla, Vinicius Mendes VOZES ADICIONAIS: Leo Lopes, Jef Barbosa e Eduardo Sierra LOCUÇÃO: Élcio Romar DIREÇÃO DE LOCUÇÃO: Beatriz Rodrigues SUPERVISÃO DE DECOUPAGEM, SFX E FOLLEY: Leo Lopes DECOUPAGEM: Thiago Miro SELEÇÃO DE SFX E FOLLEY  Jef Barbosa e Eduardo Sierra SUPORTE TÉCNICO: Diego Moreno e Richard Kloppe CONSULTORIA CIENTÍFICA: Caio Gomes ARTE DA VITRINE: André Meister OUÇA TAMBÉM RPG Call of Cthulhu 1: O mistério de William Faraday: http://bit.ly/2muWakC RPG Call of Cthulhu 2: O horror do Necronomicon: https://bit.ly/2rcaVKz RPG Call of Cthulhu 3: O despertar dos profundos: https://bit.ly/3h8tUiO E-MAILS Mande suas críticas, elogios, sugestões e caneladas para nerdcast@jovemnerd.com.br

Sexta-feira 361 de dezembro de 2019, parece que foi ontem que o último episódio do Nerdcast RPG: Cthulhu foi lançado não é mesmo? Esta é a hora do capítulo final, então prepare-se para mergulhar no vazio mais uma vez com Jovem Nerd, Azaghal, Tucano, Rex, Carlos Voltor e Leonel Caldela em mais um Nerdcast Especial de RPG!  Neste podcast: O mundo está à beira do apocalipse enquanto os cultistas se preparam para usar o Necronomicon na ilha de Heligoland. Os investigadores sacrificaram tudo na rota para o confronto final. Feridos e desesperados, eles são a última esperança de deter o ritual que irá invocar o Grande Cthulhu! E para ter mais conteúdo sobre o Nerdcast RPG: Cthulhu, participe da campanha em www.nerdcastrpg.com.br. Apoiando, você recebe a Bibliotheca Cthulhiana, composta de quatro publicações — um romance inédito em dois volumes, uma graphic novel e um livro-jogo, todos ambientados no universo do RPG — além de colecionáveis exclusivos! Após escutar, compartilhe suas opiniões (SEM spoilers) usando a hashtag #NerdcastRPG nas redes sociais, ou participe da thread oficial com spoilers em www.twitter.com/realthotep. Não recomendado para menores de 16 anos  “Não está morto o que pode eternamente jazer. E em eras estranhas até a morte pode morrer” ALTAMENTE RECOMENDÁVEL OUVIR COM FONES DE OUVIDO O NERDCAST RPG CTHULHU é baseado na obra de H.P. Lovecraft HISTÓRIA por Leonel Caldela DIREÇÃO E MONTAGEM: Deive Pazos MIXAGEM E SONORIZAÇÃO: Alexandre Ottoni TRILHA SONORA ORIGINAL: Bruno Gouveia (Govis) PERSONAGENS: DON AZAGHAL: Deive Pazos THOMAS FARADAY: Alexandre Ottoni JIMMY O’FLANNAGAN: Fernando Russell (Tucano) STEPHEN VENKMAN: Carlos Voltor GIACOMO “BÚFALO" DI MONTI: Tiago De La’Marca (Rex) NYARLATHOTEP:Leo Castilhos NECRONOMICON: Frederico Carstens (Sr.K) VON BASF: Frederico Carstens (Sr.K) CIGANO IGOR: Afonso Tresdê FRAU EISENKIMMER: Alan Duboc HEINRICH HIMMLER: Guilherme Briggs PARTICIPAÇÃO ESPECIAL: João Paulo Miguel (JP) VOZES DOS ROSTOS DOS FACELESS NO BUNKER Agatha Duboc Ottoni, Alanna Cunha, Anna Luíza Villela, Antonio Braugini, Arthur Murray, Beatriz Tavernaro, Brunna Arrais, Casa Reis, Davi William de Souza Borges, Dause Richter, Erick Guedes Matos, Erik Guedes, Felipe Bilharva da Silva, Guilherme Andreazza de Freitas, Jéssica Dalcin da Silva, Karina Reinhold, Katiucha Barcelos, Leon Branquinho Kurowski, Mario Freitas, Matheus Enrique, Natália Dorlitz, Stephaine Pendl, Rafael Figueiredo, Renata Tubor, Thaís Lima, Jerfferson Araújo, Vanlee Bogdan, Victor Gasulla, Vinicius Mendes VOZES ADICIONAIS: Leo Lopes, Jef Barbosa e Eduardo Sierra LOCUÇÃO: Élcio Romar DIREÇÃO DE LOCUÇÃO: Beatriz Rodrigues SUPERVISÃO DE DECOUPAGEM, SFX E FOLLEY: Leo Lopes DECOUPAGEM: Thiago Miro SELEÇÃO DE SFX E FOLLEY  Jef Barbosa e Eduardo Sierra SUPORTE TÉCNICO: Diego Moreno e Richard Kloppe CONSULTORIA CIENTÍFICA: Caio Gomes ARTE DA VITRINE: André Meister OUÇA TAMBÉM RPG Call of Cthulhu 1: O mistério de William Faraday: http://bit.ly/2muWakC RPG Call of Cthulhu 2: O horror do Necronomicon: https://bit.ly/2rcaVKz RPG Call of Cthulhu 3: O despertar dos profundos: https://bit.ly/3h8tUiO E-MAILS Mande suas críticas, elogios, sugestões e caneladas para nerdcast@jovemnerd.com.br

Sexta-feira 361 de dezembro de 2019, parece que foi ontem que o último episódio do Nerdcast RPG: Cthulhu foi lançado não é mesmo? Esta é a hora do capítulo final, então prepare-se para mergulhar no vazio mais uma vez com Jovem Nerd, Azaghal, Tucano, Rex, Carlos Voltor e Leonel Caldela em mais um Nerdcast Especial de RPG!  Neste podcast: O mundo está à beira do apocalipse enquanto os cultistas se preparam para usar o Necronomicon na ilha de Heligoland. Os investigadores sacrificaram tudo na rota para o confronto final. Feridos e desesperados, eles são a última esperança de deter o ritual que irá invocar o Grande Cthulhu! E para ter mais conteúdo sobre o Nerdcast RPG: Cthulhu, participe da campanha em www.nerdcastrpg.com.br. Apoiando, você recebe a Bibliotheca Cthulhiana, composta de quatro publicações — um romance inédito em dois volumes, uma graphic novel e um livro-jogo, todos ambientados no universo do RPG — além de colecionáveis exclusivos! Após escutar, compartilhe suas opiniões (SEM spoilers) usando a hashtag #NerdcastRPG nas redes sociais, ou participe da thread oficial com spoilers em www.twitter.com/realthotep. Não recomendado para menores de 16 anos  “Não está morto o que pode eternamente jazer. E em eras estranhas até a morte pode morrer” ALTAMENTE RECOMENDÁVEL OUVIR COM FONES DE OUVIDO O NERDCAST RPG CTHULHU é baseado na obra de H.P. Lovecraft HISTÓRIA por Leonel Caldela DIREÇÃO E MONTAGEM: Deive Pazos MIXAGEM E SONORIZAÇÃO: Alexandre Ottoni TRILHA SONORA ORIGINAL: Bruno Gouveia (Govis) PERSONAGENS: DON AZAGHAL: Deive Pazos THOMAS FARADAY: Alexandre Ottoni JIMMY O’FLANNAGAN: Fernando Russell (Tucano) STEPHEN VENKMAN: Carlos Voltor GIACOMO “BÚFALO" DI MONTI: Tiago De La’Marca (Rex) NYARLATHOTEP:Leo Castilhos NECRONOMICON: Frederico Carstens (Sr.K) VON BASF: Frederico Carstens (Sr.K) CIGANO IGOR: Afonso Tresdê FRAU EISENKIMMER: Alan Duboc HEINRICH HIMMLER: Guilherme Briggs PARTICIPAÇÃO ESPECIAL: João Paulo Miguel (JP) VOZES DOS ROSTOS DOS FACELESS NO BUNKER Agatha Duboc Ottoni, Alanna Cunha, Anna Luíza Villela, Antonio Braugini, Arthur Murray, Beatriz Tavernaro, Brunna Arrais, Casa Reis, Davi William de Souza Borges, Dause Richter, Erick Guedes Matos, Erik Guedes, Felipe Bilharva da Silva, Guilherme Andreazza de Freitas, Jéssica Dalcin da Silva, Karina Reinhold, Katiucha Barcelos, Leon Branquinho Kurowski, Mario Freitas, Matheus Enrique, Natália Dorlitz, Stephaine Pendl, Rafael Figueiredo, Renata Tubor, Thaís Lima, Jerfferson Araújo, Vanlee Bogdan, Victor Gasulla, Vinicius Mendes VOZES ADICIONAIS: Leo Lopes, Jef Barbosa e Eduardo Sierra LOCUÇÃO: Élcio Romar DIREÇÃO DE LOCUÇÃO: Beatriz Rodrigues SUPERVISÃO DE DECOUPAGEM, SFX E FOLLEY: Leo Lopes DECOUPAGEM: Thiago Miro SELEÇÃO DE SFX E FOLLEY  Jef Barbosa e Eduardo Sierra SUPORTE TÉCNICO: Diego Moreno e Richard Kloppe CONSULTORIA CIENTÍFICA: Caio Gomes ARTE DA VITRINE: André Meister OUÇA TAMBÉM RPG Call of Cthulhu 1: O mistério de William Faraday: http://bit.ly/2muWakC RPG Call of Cthulhu 2: O horror do Necronomicon: https://bit.ly/2rcaVKz RPG Call of Cthulhu 3: O despertar dos profundos: https://bit.ly/3h8tUiO E-MAILS Mande suas críticas, elogios, sugestões e caneladas para nerdcast@jovemnerd.com.br

Sam Sodano discusses the origins of the Ohio Star Ball and the adjustments being made to keep it a safe event during the pandemic. Sam and Samantha delve into his own dance journey beginning at Arthur Murray, striving to put a focus on personal education and betterment, and the evolution of his understanding of the teacher-student relationship. He also provides insight on what he wishes more professional instructors would avoid doing with their dancesport students, and how it can't be all about the business in order to be successful. Sam Sodano is a legendary figure in the US Ballroom Dance world. He is a former North American Latin Champion, the organizer of the Ohio Star Ball, an adjudicator, judge, and lecturer. He created the World Pro-Am Dancesport Series, the Fordney Foundation, the Best of the Best Dancesport Challenge, and is the co-organizer of such events as the Arnold Youth Dancesport Classic, Holiday Dance Classic, and the Atlanta Open. Follow Sam Sodano and the Ohio Star Ball: https://ohiostarball.com http://www.samsodano.com https://www.hiplifttechnique.com Ways to Support the Podcast! Use the affiliate code "BallroomChat" on any subscription purchase at https://ballroombox.me to save 10% Use the affiliate code "BallroomChat" on any purchase at https://practiceballroomdance.com/shop/?ref=lovelivedance and save 10% now through the end of November 2020 Ways to see more from Love.Live.Dance and Ballroom Chat: https://www.lovelivedance.com/podcast/ https://www.facebook.com/ballroomchat https://www.instagram.com/ballroomchat

On this episode of the show, I am interviewing Lola Donahue, the owner of the Arthur Murray St. Louis Dance Studio. Lola grew up in Barnhart, MO and went to Columbia College in Chicago for musical theater. She fell into a teaching job at Arthur Murray in downtown Chicago and 6 months later she was promoted to managing the studio. After 11 years, she was given the opportunity to bring the Arthur Murray community with her back home to Missouri. She has personally seen people’s lives transformed through dancing. Lola knows that dancing changes people for the better and getting to witness that every day keeps her going! Lola believes there is always a solution if you are looking for it and every challenge is an opportunity to grow! E-Mail Address: lola@arthurmurraystl.comWebsite: www.arthurmurraystl.comFacebook: Arthurmurraystl

Aaron Pierce and Samantha discuss the culture shock of moving from the East Coast to Utah, the challenges Aaron faced when becoming a member of the UVU Tour Team, and the differences and similarities between Arthur Murray, Fred Astaire, and independent studios. They also chat about how your perspectives on dance and instruction change over time, and Aaron's new goals and focus for his competitive career. Aaron Pierce is a former 2 time US National Amateur Rhythm Champion, former member of the Utah Valley University Tour Team, and current Professional Rhythm Finalist. Follow Aaron Pierce: https://www.instagram.com/aaronirvingpierce https://www.fredastaire.com/redondo-beach/blog/team_member/aaron-pierce-instructor/ http://aaronpierceart.com/ Support the Podcast on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ballroomchat Ways to see more from Love.Live.Dance and Ballroom Chat: https://www.lovelivedance.com/podcast/ https://www.facebook.com/ballroomchat https://www.instagram.com/ballroomchat  

Ron Montez is a former 7-time undefeated US Professional Latin Champion, the recipient of numerous awards and honors, judge, adjudicator, and co-organizer of both the Aloha Ball and Las Vegas Lights Dance Challenge. We discuss his early career with Arthur Murray, turning professional, how costuming and performance has changed over the years, and the pros and cons of one-day events versus multi-day events. Follow Ron Montez: https://www.alohaballdance.com https://www.lasvegaslightsdance.com Support the Podcast on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ballroomchat Ways to see more from Love.Live.Dance and Ballroom Chat: https://www.lovelivedance.com/podcast/ https://www.facebook.com/ballroomchat https://www.instagram.com/ballroomchat  

Episode 24 features some great music by Billy Eckstine, Boyd Raeburn, Betty Hutton, Glen Gray and the Casa Loma Orchestra and more. Men also learn how to achieve the well-groomed look to get ahead both socially and on the job. ...and remember, if you want to listen to more Big Band and Swing Music check out SwingCityRadio.com to hear Your Big Band Favorites from the 1930's, 40's and Today! * All music in this podcast are Creative Commons.  Artists are credited within the podcast.

Toren is a friend from the fabled California years of Justin. Toren talks about his times in California, teaching at an Arthur Murray dance studio, working on a weed farm, and turning an imaginary one night stand into a long-term relationship complete with a relocation. Facebook and Instagram: @FriendRequestPod Twitter: @FriendRequestJL JustinsFriendRequest@gmail.com

During this time of crisis, there are businesses that are considered essential services but many are not. One business that is not considered essential and has been forced to close in the wake of COVID-19 and the provincial Emergency Measures is Arthur Murray dance studios. Joining us on the phone is Lisa MacLaggan. Lisa is the owner of 5 Arthur Murray studios across the GTA. She is a certified dance examiner and a professional dancer herself

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We have "Sethica" the dynamic duo join us at the 2020 outdoor and fishing show in Mohegan sun. They take us behind the scene not only Capt Seths Sportfishing but also Arthur Murray dance studio! Get your ear buds ready as we take you for a Drive through both the business and the outdoor memories of these two!    https://www.captainsethsportfishing.com    

Jim Sharky shows why Lil Nas X and Billy Ray Cyrus have nothing on him where the "collabo" is concerned.  Dancer extraordinaire Henry Skopp sets us straight on why Arthur Murray is NOT Fred Astaire as Jim's autism is on full display.  Shake a tail feather and get to listenin'

The owner of the Arthur Murray Dance Center of Cambridge and a professional ballroom dance competitor, Kia Kenney is reaping the benefits of taking risks with your career path and following your heart. Kia opened her own Arthur Murray franchise in Cambridge in 2013. The studio became a $1M studio within 3 years and is currently the 5th highest grossing Arthur Murray studio in the world. Kia is a sought after trainer within her industry and travels as both a dance and business consultant within the company. She also continues to compete professionally and is a current Arthur Murray Open Professional Smooth Finalist, the 2017 Arthur Murray Rising Star Smooth World Champion.

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From ballet to ballroom, country to swing, Carrie Lucas has an extensive and diverse array of dance experience. In this episode, we sat down with the charming and talented Carrie to discuss her early days in country and with Arthur Murray, her views of the dance, her thoughts on proper technique, and how she approaches judging. And since she's such a successful Masters-level competitor, we asked her what she thinks about the Masters division, including how older dancers can be more successful in competition, how she feels about splitting it into different levels, and how events - and our community at large - can be more welcoming to older dancers.

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Lynda Smith, Owner of Arthur Murray Dance Studios of Minnesota and Organizer of the Dancing with the Twin Cities' Celebrities! A multi-award winner world Dancer, knows the ins and outs of the dance world.http://www.twincitiesarthurmurray.comhttp://www.DanceWithTheTCCelebs.com

Some stories are so good that they seemingly defy reality. Enter Chris Lynam.He dropped out of school. His mom fired him from the family business. Like me, he wasn't going to become a professional basketball player.Fast forward to 2018, and he and his wife Daisy are owners and franchisees of four of the top ten Arthur Murray Dance Studios--a brand that has been dominating dance for over 100 years.How did dancing until 2am set off a chain reaction of success for Chris? What help did he get along the way? What's going on the NBA playoffs this year, and why do neither Chris nor I think the Rockets will win it all?It's all here. Enjoy this episode. Relevant links:https://soundcloud.com/off-the-floor-podcast (Chris's podcast Off the Floor)http://www.arthurmurraylive.com/ (Chris's Bay Area Franchises)https://www.quora.com/profile/Chris-Lynam-2 (Chris's writing)https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/05/briefing/isis-britain-monkeys.html (New York Times' recent celebration of Arthur Murray)

Arthur Murray Party Johnnie Ray 15 Feb 1954 Public Domain http://oldtimeradiodvd.com

To the Club Music world, Marcus Homm is a famous DJ from Germany. To the dancing world, Markus Homm is a Latin Dancer with an incredible history, but to the Arthur Murray world... he's just Rudy's brother. We caught up with Marcus Homm, amid his insane "James-Bond-like" travel schedule, to talk about his perspective on how his dancing influenced his music career. He lives an "On the Floor, Off the Floor" life already, and now he's our featured guest in Episode 003. Follow him on Instagram: MarkusHomm

Amos n Andy, originally broadcast December 26, 1954, 63 years ago. New Years Eve Ball. The Kingfish sends Sapphire a phony invitation to the New Year's ball at the De Puyster's. Andy Brown just happens to have a real invitation, but needs dancing lessons. Arthur Murray just opened an uptown branch!

Montana is known as Big Sky Country and one tends to think of wide open spaces when picturing the state. The state was formerly part of the Louisiana Purchase and the Lewis and Clark Expedition left their mark here, literally, with Clark inscribing his name and the date on a pillar northeast of modern day Billings. Explorers, frontiersmen, miners and businessmen all flocked to Montana. One of those men was Charles Conrad. He was a pioneer, businessman and banker who founded the city of Kalispell in Montana with his own money.  He built his home in Kalispell and today it is known as the Conrad Mansion Museum. The mansion is a great example of a turn of the century home in the Northwest and it is reputedly haunted. The spirits seem friendly as they belong to members of the Conrad family. Join us as we explore the history and hauntings of the Conrad Mansion Museum! Moment in Oddity features mummified bodies discovered in Alps Glaciers and This Month in History features Arthur Murray coming through Ellis Island. Our location was suggested by Tammy McCaroll-Burroughs. Check out the website: http://historygoesbump.com Show notes can be found here: https://historygoesbump.blogspot.com/2017/08/hgb-ep-216-conrad-mansion-museum.html Become an Executive Producer and get lots of great stuff: http://patreon.com/historygoesbump Music: Vanishing from http://purple-planet.com (Moment in Oddity) In Your Arms by Kevin MacLeod http://incompetech.com (This Month in History) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

In the late 1970s, famous copywriter Joe Karbo rocked the direct marketing world with his full-page newspaper ads. The headline was: “The Lazy Man’s Way To Riches.” Many people thought this was revolutionary. But actually, he wasn’t onto a new concept. You see, people had already been appealing to prospects’ laziness for decades. For example, in 1923, the legendary dancer and dance instructor Arthur Murray ran an ad in Popular Science magazine with this headline: “See How Easily You Can Learn To Dance This New Way.” So, it’s a time-tested technique. But can you use laziness headlines yourself? Absolutely! Even If your prospects are the hardest-working people on planet Earth, they’ll be more inclined to order your product when you use a laziness headline in the right way. We’ve got a lot to cover so you’ll really understand this and know how to do it. And we’ll have some fun along the way. First, though, fair warning: Copy is powerful. You’re responsible for how you use what you hear on this podcast. Most of the time, common sense is all you need. But if you make extreme claims… and/or if you’re writing copy for offers in highly regulated industries like health, finance, and business opportunity… you may want to get a legal review after you write and before you start using your copy. My larger clients do this all the time. OK. Now that we have that out of the way and my lawyer can go off and invent other things to do for me, let’s dig into laziness headlines. • How laziness is just part of human nature (even though many people go to great lengths to hide their laziness from you). “Life is hard and then you die” - may be true, but that is not a valid sales proposition :-> - everything has an easy part and a hard part. Start by emphasizing the easy part. - human brain. Frontal cerebral cortex – ego – “hard work.” Brain stem – old mammalian brain – busy enough keeping you alive and running your emotions – they like simple, easy. And they decide what you buy. -Just because someone works hard at one thing doesn’t mean they want to, or even are willing to, work hard at everything. - Look at how many advances have been commercial advances. No-iron shirts. I don’t know much about women’s clothes, but I imagine no-iron blouses, too. Automatic dishwasher. How much easier is it to use an iPad than a vintage 1995 Windows computer? Progress favors laziness. - People are so busy these days. Who wants to add one more difficult, time-consuming activity to their schedule? • People will pay you their hard-earned money for the opportunity to be lazy The 7 reasons people buy: 1. Make money 2. Save money 3. Save time 4. Reduce effort 5. Increase pleasure 6. Reduce or eliminate pain 7. Improve health 4 of these reasons appeal directly or indirectly to laziness ◆ (1) Save time – time is work (in prospect’s mind). Less time = less work ◆ (2) Save effort – very direct appeal to laziness ◆ (3,4)Increase pleasure, reduce pain – Hard work, no fun; pleasure is fun. Hard work – pain. Less pain = less hard work. - Garfinkel’s Law of Work > applies to how easy or hard it is for people to read your copy (not whether or not you talk about laziness in your copy) > “He who works, gets paid.” (“She who works, gets paid.”) > When they work hard trying to understand what you’re saying in your copy – they get paid (by keeping the money that you were supposed to get) > When you do the work necessary to make it easy for them to read and understand, they read easy, and you get paid. When you’re the one looking out for them (and their time, and their energy, and their peace of mind) – and you show it – you are much, much more likely to get the order. • The steps to putting together a great laziness headline 1. Think about what your product or service will do for your prospect – or how it will take the burden of doing something off their shoulders 2. In what way does that make it - easier - faster - less painful - more enjoyable - or in some other way, “less hard?” 3. From that, try one of these templates How Would You Like To ____ The Easy Way To ____ Save Up To ____ With ____ What If You Could ____ What Our Customers Love Most Is How _____Download.

In the late 1970s, famous copywriter Joe Karbo rocked the direct marketing world with his full-page newspaper ads. The headline was: “The Lazy Man’s Way To Riches.” Many people thought this was revolutionary. But actually, he wasn’t onto a new concept. You see, people had already been appealing to prospects’ laziness for decades. For example, in 1923, the legendary dancer and dance instructor Arthur Murray ran an ad in Popular Science magazine with this headline: “See How Easily You Can Learn To Dance This New Way.” So, it’s a time-tested technique. But can you use laziness headlines yourself? Absolutely! Even If your prospects are the hardest-working people on planet Earth, they’ll be more inclined to order your product when you use a laziness headline in the right way. We’ve got a lot to cover so you’ll really understand this and know how to do it. And we’ll have some fun along the way. First, though, fair warning: Copy is powerful. You’re responsible for how you use what you hear on this podcast. Most of the time, common sense is all you need. But if you make extreme claims… and/or if you’re writing copy for offers in highly regulated industries like health, finance, and business opportunity… you may want to get a legal review after you write and before you start using your copy. My larger clients do this all the time. OK. Now that we have that out of the way and my lawyer can go off and invent other things to do for me, let’s dig into laziness headlines. • How laziness is just part of human nature (even though many people go to great lengths to hide their laziness from you). “Life is hard and then you die” - may be true, but that is not a valid sales proposition :-> - everything has an easy part and a hard part. Start by emphasizing the easy part. - human brain. Frontal cerebral cortex – ego – “hard work.” Brain stem – old mammalian brain – busy enough keeping you alive and running your emotions – they like simple, easy. And they decide what you buy. -Just because someone works hard at one thing doesn’t mean they want to, or even are willing to, work hard at everything. - Look at how many advances have been commercial advances. No-iron shirts. I don’t know much about women’s clothes, but I imagine no-iron blouses, too. Automatic dishwasher. How much easier is it to use an iPad than a vintage 1995 Windows computer? Progress favors laziness. - People are so busy these days. Who wants to add one more difficult, time-consuming activity to their schedule? • People will pay you their hard-earned money for the opportunity to be lazy The 7 reasons people buy: 1. Make money 2. Save money 3. Save time 4. Reduce effort 5. Increase pleasure 6. Reduce or eliminate pain 7. Improve health 4 of these reasons appeal directly or indirectly to laziness ◆ (1) Save time – time is work (in prospect’s mind). Less time = less work ◆ (2) Save effort – very direct appeal to laziness ◆ (3,4)Increase pleasure, reduce pain – Hard work, no fun; pleasure is fun. Hard work – pain. Less pain = less hard work. - Garfinkel’s Law of Work > applies to how easy or hard it is for people to read your copy (not whether or not you talk about laziness in your copy) > “He who works, gets paid.” (“She who works, gets paid.”) > When they work hard trying to understand what you’re saying in your copy – they get paid (by keeping the money that you were supposed to get) > When you do the work necessary to make it easy for them to read and understand, they read easy, and you get paid. When you’re the one looking out for them (and their time, and their energy, and their peace of mind) – and you show it – you are much, much more likely to get the order. • The steps to putting together a great laziness headline 1. Think about what your product or service will do for your prospect – or how it will take the burden of doing something off their shoulders 2. In what way does that make it - easier - faster - less painful - more enjoyable - or in some other way, “less hard?” 3. From that, try one of these templates How Would You Like To ____ The Easy Way To ____ Save Up To ____ With ____ What If You Could ____ What Our Customers Love Most Is How _____Download.

Lynda Smith, Owner of Arthur Murray Dance Studios of Minnesota and Organizer of the Dancing with the Twin Cities' Celebrities! A multi-award winner world Dancer, knows the ins and outs of the dance world.http://www.twincitiesarthurmurray.comhttp://www.DanceWithTheTCCelebs.com

On Upcase, Chris releases the Bourbon course, restructures how new courses are highlighted, and discusses juggling the various factors that contribute to MRR. Ben takes on-boarding notes from a century old dance school to improve activation on Formkeep. Upcase Formkeep Hardcore History Bourbon Smash Course on Upcase Ruby Tapas Arthur Murray Dance Centers Bootstrapped CPC Rule of Thumb- Jason Cohen Dark Age of Camelot

This episode we touch upon one of the most discuss topics of the week. That being the South Carolina incident with the cop in the school. In our country we are so desensitized to violence. We did our podcast during the 2nd half of Steelers vs Bengals, so you'll hear some sideline commentary of the game. We get in a debate about what is considered a rivalry, since we have different views on where the Bengals stand against the Steelers. We explain our visit to Arthur Murray's dance studio and the new moves we learned. Enjoy this action packed episode. Have a great November! Ponder on...

This week's show is an awesome interview with Daniel Caicedo. It really just evolved into an awesome conversation about salsa dancing and the community. Denny's at it's best. Daniel is a native Colombian but a world traveler, currently living in Canada, eh. He's a salsero, teacher and salsa enthusiast and he shares his story and his views on the latin dance community on the show. Enjoy! Resources from today's show: Arthur Murray 1950's commercial on cha cha TED talk - The Power of Seduction in our Everyday Lives How do I tell him he smells? Velcro tape for make your own salsa shoes Tanja & Jorge Island Touch bachata performance that I was at! This week’s song is Stairway to Heaven (salsa version) and here is a great social dancing interpretation by Mitchell & Monica. Don’t forget to check out the podcast on iTunes & Stitcher…and if you enjoy it leave us a review too :)   --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thisweekinsalsa/message

Danila and Nuria Kartashov have opened the Arthur Murray Dance Center in Downtown Cranford at 200 South Avenue, East. The studio is located on the second floor of Riverfront at Cranford Station, just above Pastosa. Cranford Radio paid a visit and spoke with Danila to learn a bit more about the center and about he and his wife.

On a street corner just up the block from Colorado Blvd in Pasadena sits an Arthur Murray dance school. I've been in the vicinity plenty of times to drop off dry cleaning or grab some late night Del Taco, but today I step into Arthur Murray to chat about dance. When I was in elementary school I remember that I wanted to be a dancer just like Michael Jackson. Somehow I thought that was a solid career choice...but perhaps I wasn't all that wrong .  This week George Estrada shares his love for dance and how it allows him to help others. He also offers up an interesting suggestion that those who are still wandering in search of direction should contemplate a career in dance. Dance isn't just a career , it's a life. 

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