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Hi Jazzmenteers.....Ok this show will be posted 1 week early for July But I felt we lagged behind a few months we should HUP 2 IT so here is the NEW jazz show.Today we have songs from: Lester Young / Wes Montgomery / Howard Roberts and The PlayersWell OK let's Go Jazzin'Intro: Jingle Jangle-Ron Frangipane1. Guitar Blues-Oliver Nelson2. Con Alma-Wes Montgomery3. Alvin Show-Nelson Riddle4. By By Blues-Bert Kemfert 5. Keep The Ball Rolling-Al Hirt6. Blusette-Howard Roberts7. Some Of These Days-Seymore & The Golden Trumpet8. Cookin' Up-Casiopea9. Just Cooling-Lester Young10. Foggy Day-Oscar Peterson11. Time & Love-Tom Scott12. Four And One More-Gerry Mulligan13. 20,000 Prayers-The Players14. Now I Lay Me Down To Dream Of You-Frank Rosolino Quintet15. Palladium-Weather ReportOutro: Looking At The World-Chic Corea

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I ventured out today despite my initial reluctance to get out in the rain, and am now feeling smug :-) Well OK not smug, but definitely happier for pulling on my boots and jacket and heading out to the woods under my over sized umbrella. How do you connect with nature when the weather in not enticing? Do you head out anyway, watch the world go by through your window or do something else to connect? I would love it if you would share your stories and it would be really great if you would leave a voicemail on anchor.fm/naturespot that I could add to a future episode! If you would like to share your stories of your favourite nature spots, memories, strategies for keeping connected, or to be a guest on a future episode - please get in touch via anchor, or on the @naturespotpodcast Instagram account. As always - thanks very much for listening! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/naturespot/message

They probably mean well. They are telling you something that is easy to understand and that seems like it's true at first, but it's still a lie. I received an overwhelming response to my recent episode on success via public humiliation, and more than a few people tried to set me straight about how Japanese keigo is supposed to be used, so today I'm going to return the favor. Don't worry, this is not a Japanese lesson, at least not in the pedantic sense, but it might clear up a few of the lies you've been told, and perhaps even repeated about how honorifics are used in Japan and in Japanese business in particular. Please leave a comment because I would love to hear your thoughts on this. Show Notes Feedback on Failure How you are being lied to Why keigo is not about social status or individual respect How to insult by being polite Actually showing respect Leave a comment Transcript Welcome to Disrupting Japan, straight talk from Japan's most successful entrepreneurs. I'm Tim Romero and thanks for joining me. While the coronavirus lockdown continues to disrupt Disrupting Japan’s production schedule, whatever stage of lockdown or reopening you might be in right now, I hope you're doing well. Today I’m going to point out something that every Japanese language textbook I have ever seen gets completely wrong.   Feedback on Failure But before that, I want to thank you for all the emails and messages you sent in response to last month’s episode on how public humiliation has been my secret to success in Japan. It was a hard one to make, but it seems like it really resonated with a lot of listeners, and the feedback was really overwhelming. So, thank you for that. There was also, however, some comments about my difficulties speaking keigo and my description of it as a “mind-boggling complex protocol of honorific and humble forms whose use depends on a non-linear, three-dimensional matrix of formality, in-group out-group status, and the role you are playing in that particular interaction.“ OK. I admit I was a bit overdramatic there, but quite a few people emailed to tell me that keigo was actually quite logical and very straightforward as long as you keep in mind a few simple rules. It is something, they asserted, that can be mastered in a few years of serious study. OK. Yeah, maybe. But it’s interesting to note that all the emails telling me how easy keigo is, came from non-Japanese. Among the emails I got from my Japanese fans, only two mentioned my keigo comments at all, and they both sympathized, saying that they also make mistakes sometimes. In fact, one of them even mentioned that she can’t understand why anyone thinks rakugo is funny either. So hey, maybe it’s my sense of humor, and not my language ability that’s the problem here. But to those non-native speakers claiming keigo is simple and straightforward. Well OK, perhaps you have a gift for it. Perhaps its really clicked for you. You almost certainly have a better command of it that I do, but maybe you should consider, that just perhaps, you don’t understand it as well as you think you do.   How you are being lied to In fact, I will go further than that. Every Japanese language textbook I have ever seen completely misrepresents both what keigo is and how it is used. It’s almost always defined as a “means fo showing respect to individuals with higher social status”. And that’s just wrong! It is not about showing respect to individuals and it has nothing to do with social status. Sure, that definition might be useful for people with short attention spans or who know little about Japanese society. But fortunately, Disrupting Japan listeners have proven themselves as having long attention spans and they know a thing or two about Japanese society. So let’s dig into this. If you are a non-native speaker, by the end of this short episode, I promise you’ll have a new way of looking at keigo. OK.

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This summer I was at a speaking event, and heard the story of a woman, who shared how she overcame depression and wanting to kill herself. A very brave thing to do, especially on stage; and so needed, too, because the stigma on these topics is literally killing people, who otherwise would speak up and ask for help. So when she sat back, right next to me, I turned to her and thank her for her courage, expressing that I know how difficult it can be to talk about suicide. She looked at me with surprise, and answered that she never thought about her story as "suicide". Now I was surprised. You would think that "killing yourself" and "suicide" mean the same thing, isn't it? Well apparently it is not that obvious! This is quite a dramatic example, but we do this in a lot in our life: We use words to make the situation sounds more acceptable. There is a sentence I hear many variations of in my coaching practice: "I'm fine, I'm just very very busy." Well OK then, it sounds like you don't need much help; everything is under control... Or the illusion of control? A word I used a lot was "tired". And I came to realise that sometimes, I was tired and I needed some rest. And sometimes, something was wrong; and my tiredness was a sign that I needed to change something. Basically it meant that I was bored and uninspired by what I was doing, and needed to reconnect to, you know... What makes me feel alive! My passion and joy, things like doing this podcast for example. I had this elephant in the room, and it was hiding behind "tired" The thing is, until I called it by its real name, nothing I would do would change the situation. Of course! Because nothing I could do to resolve "being tired", would solve "being uninspired". Quite the opposite, even, as resting is not super inspiring for me. I learned to recognise it. Now I know that when I feel that kind of "tired", I need to look at the elephant behind. And I can do it before it has grown so big I can't ignore it, the sooner the better! Does it ring a bell to you? What I'm really talking about here is awareness. Awareness is THE key & first step to any transformation Unless you say hello to the elephant in the room, it's not going anywhere. It wants love and attention, like everyone. I will talk more about elephants, and how to hug them, in later episodes. But for now, tell me: Can you recognise this in your life? And maybe it is not you, but it was before, or you know someone... Can you see a word any elephant is hiding behind? Your weekly dose of fierce love A mix of love and brutal honesty! Boom, life just got easier! You like this, and you want more? subscribe, so you get your weekly dose. You want even more? Hop on my socials, and share your thoughts and comments. I love to read them, and reply... with fierce love. Stay tuned for the next episode, à bientôt. ;-)

Hello Basementeers all over... Well I realize that the Totally 80's series is really is a BIG HIT!! with everybody. I guess there is more fans of music from Decade '80 then I thought out there. Well OK here is another one for you. I'll eventually get to a 10th show. So: for this show, I will feature songs from: Tom Petty / Pink Floyd / U2 / The Cult / The Outfield and David Bowie as the Beaver..... So here you all go more music from the 80's....... Intro: Pipeline-Alan Parsons Project 1. Gonna Have A Good Time tonight-Inxs 2. Variety Tonight-R.E.O. Speedwagon 3. Nobody But You-Steve Miller Band 4. I Just Died In Your Arm's Tonight-The Cutting Crew 5. Say Isn't So-The Outfield 6. Like No Other Night-38 Special 7. Jammin' Me-Tom Petty 8. Little Devil-The Cult 9. Dreams-Van Halen 10. Johnny B.-The Hooters 11. Should I See-Frozen Ghosts 12. Money Talks-Alan Parsons Project 13. Spanish Eye-U2 14. Lost In Loveland-Frirenhight 15. Never Let Me Down-David Bowie 16. Ghost On The Beach-The Insiders 17. Long Slide-The Del Fuegos 18. Hard Times In The Land Of Plenty-Ormar & The Howlers 19. Force 10-Rush 20. The damage you Done-Tom Petty 21. Give Me Life-Steppenwolf 22. Rhythm Of Love-Yes 23. Learning To Fly-Pink Floyd 24. Battleship Chains-The Georgia Satellites 25. Walk On Fire-Little America 26. Ship Of Fools-World Party 27. Hourglass-The Squeeze 28. No Time-Robin Trower 29. I Don't Mind At All-Bushua Tagg 30. Name Names-The Del Fuegos 31. In The Still Of The Night-Whitesnake 32. I Think I Like It-Boston 33. One Simple Thing-The Stabilizers 34. Look Away-Big Country 35. Tough Enough-The Fab T-Birds 36. Crazy Nights-KISS 37. Heads Are Gonna Roll-Judas Priest 38. Got My Mind Set On You-George Harrison Outro: Shangrila-The Steve Miller Band

This week on the After Dark, Dan aka Ace McWicked from At The Drive Thru joins the Doc to review new stuff from the Drums and Dandy Warhols, offer some pre-review reckons on the Chemical Brothers' new album and nominate his favourite albums of the last year and a bit. Also: Production power moves, waveform jealousy, NZ's next top podcast, AOTYTD, previously on After Dark With Ace, grimy sharehouses, the Beeso School of Picking Albums, drums solo, forgotten years, lost Britpop, BIO101, white men finally get a break, judging by covers, Ye nah, Wellington Beds, Westside for life, Doc hates television, 70s sitcom catchphrases, classic Tales, leaning into Cletusry, playing that one song from that one ad, live bands with terrible albums, everyone has their knockers, explaining TISM, two Melbournes, Press Club slander, everyone's a bogan, definitive opinions, this collaboration demeans us both, Peep Show tributes, Guardian angles, the right noises in the right order and counting blackbirds. Next week: Beeso returns to argue more about the new Chemical Brothers album, plus a new recording from Clowns. The Melbourne punk band, not us. Well OK us too. All our 2019 review albums are in our album review playlist on Spotify, along with our 2019 After Dark Mixtape of our favourite tracks from albums reviewed this year. Our 2018 AD Mixtape and full list of review albums are available elsewhere on the internet. You can get BALLS and After Dark in your ears via Omny Studio,Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and hurl reckons at us via Twitter, Facebook and email.

What to do if you sprain your ankle while hiking in the wild   The Adventure Travel Show Podcast is a companion podcast to the Active Travel Adventures podcast (ATA).  On ATA, you learn the who, what, where and when of the world’s best adventure travel vacations. However on this podcast, the Adventure Travel Show Podcast, you’ll learn the HOW!   Today we learn what to do if you sprain your ankle while in the wild, how to prevent injury, how to test the strength of your ankles, and what small item should be packed in both your day pack and backpack.  Sprained ankles are one of the most common injuries we have while out in the wild.   Dr. Christopher Segler aka Doc on the Run Say you're out hiking in the middle of nowhere and BAAM!  You turn your ankle! Dr. Segler gives us an amazing interview on what to do if you twist your ankle and think you've sprained it, how to prevent such injuries in the first place, why buying too big of hiking shoes or boots may not be the best idea, he gives us an ankle strengthening exercise, plus offers us a helpful self-test to see if we are at risk of a sprained ankle (see my video below).  Who knew ankles could be so interesting?!!!  In our interview, we never got to the other parts of the body that hikers often injure, so Dr. Segler has agreed to make this a multi-part series!  Subscribe so you don't miss it!   A little about Dr. Segler… Here's a doctor who walks the walk – or I should say runs the run, as he is an athlete himself!  Dr. Segler dedicates his practice to helping athletes prevent and also treat their injuries without losing the conditioning they've worked so hard for making him the perfect doctor to talk to about figuring out what to do when you are out in the wild and you hurt yourself and need to keep going.  See below for a more detailed bio on this amazing doctor.   Links mentioned in this podcast: The original Active Travel Adventures podcast of this interview You can download the worksheet Dr. Segler mentions and see the demonstration videos here as well! Your Backpack Emergency Kit podcast episode: http://adventuretravelpodcastshow.com/emergency/   Here's what we cover: True story about Adam and a sprained ankle while climbing in Yosemite What they should have done How to assess a twisted ankle Why you should keep a compression sock in your day pack or back pack How to assess whether it's ok to use it after you've twisted it The difference between a sprain and a fracture When you should use Vitamin I (ibuprophen) and how much to take.  What are the counter indicators. How to prevent a sprain How you can ‘ice' down your sprained ankle in a creek to reduce and minimize swelling Can your ankle get too swollen for your boot? If you've ever had a sprain, you are at higher risk of future sprains even if it's been years. How to do a stork-like self-test to check the stability and strength of your ankles How to do a quick exercise to build up your ankle strength and stability.   Benefits of a wobble board We talk about the pros and cons of hiking shoes versus boots.  Do we HAVE to buy leather? Compare synthetic to leather.  How to test if a boot is strong enough by trying to twist the sole. Why it's NOT a good idea to buy boots a size too big. If you want to use different inserts, bring them with you when you shop for your new pair.  Make sure your toe bends where the boot bends. Connect with Kit and the Adventure Travel Show Podcast and be sure to also subscribe to the companion Active Travel Adventures podcast where you’ll learn about some of the coolest adventures on the planet!  https://activetraveladventures.com   Twitter @Kit_Parks  https://twitter.com/Kit_Parks Facebook Group: Active Travel Adventures   https://www.facebook.com/groups/ActiveTravelAdventures/ Instagram: https://instagram.com/parks.kit/                           Dr. Segler goes deep in each episode to help athletes heal (Hey! We're Adventurers, doesn't that make us somewhat of an ‘athlete'???) without losing conditioning and without giving up the sport they love!  Check out his podcast episodes by clicking on the box to the left! 3 Minutes to Stronger Ankles When Running on Trails from Dr Christopher Segler on Vimeo. Author of: Runner's Heel Pain: Self-Diagnosis and Self-Treatment, House Calls Startup Manual: How to Run a Low-overhead, High-profit Practice and Get Your Life Back Connect with Dr. Segler on: Facebook https://www.facebook.com/DocOnTheRunSanFranciscoPodiatryHouseCalls/ Twitter https://twitter.com/myrunningdoc Instagram https://www.instagram.com/docontherun Pinterest https://www.pinterest.com/DrChristopherSegler/ Here's Dr. Segler's Book:     Here's the transcript for this episode:Note that the times correspond to the original broadcast on the Active Travel Adventures podcast Kit: 00:00 Picture this you've been climbing all morning. And finally you get the reward. You're at the summit and you have a 360 degree view: panoramic. Absolutely gorgeous. You step back to take a selfie and BOOM you twist your ankle. Oh brother! You are eight miles from town. What on earth do you do? That my friends, is the subject of today's bonus episode on how to treat and prevent sprained ankles. I have got such a treat for you! Who would have thought sprained ankles could be so interesting. This interview had started to be a general first aid wilderness episode but we got so engrossed and it was so interesting that we've decided to make this a series instead. In today's interview the doctor's going to teach us what do we do if we should sprained ankle while we're out in the wild. Kit: 00:44 This is one of the most common mishaps that can happen to us. We'll also learn how to treat it how to tell whether or not we are at risk for a weak or a sprained ankle. He has talked me into adding something to my backpack which is something I very rarely do: I try to be as minimalist as possible. But I learned about a new product today that is new to me in the backpacking world, and it is now going to be part of my day and backpacks in the future. And I also found out that I was fitting my boots improperly. So there's lots of great information here. Like I said, who would have thought sprained ankles could be so interesting? Let's get right to it. Kit: 01:24 Welcome to the Active Travel Adventure's podcast. I'm your host Kit Parks. Our guest today is a foot and ankle specialist who focuses his entire business on athletes and keeping those athletes active even after injury. I thought it would be cool to bring him on because unfortunately, sometimes when you're out in the wilderness and you're miles from the nearest town to medical care, you're going to need to fend for yourself. Not only is our guest a much in demand speaker at medical conferences on running injuries and treatment, he's the author of Runner's Heal Painhas written a chapter in a medical textbook, and has written and presented countless papers. He's not a doctor just in the academic sense that you sometimes find… he's a doctor who actually walks the walk, or I should say runs, because he's an athlete himself. He's completed 15 Ironman tournaments as an Iron Man. Kit: 02:07 If you're not familiar with that term, is it insane endurance event. You start by swimming almost two and a half miles then you bike over a hundred miles. And just for giggles you follow that up with a marathon race of over 26 miles — all without a break. He actually did this once in less than 11 hours. And in 2015 he earned the distinction of Ironman All World Athlete. He's also a rock climber, having climbed multiple multiday big wall climbs, such as Lurking Fear on El Capitan– and that was during a storm. He's an avid adventurer who, with a partner in 1995, had a plane drop the two of them in a remote corner of the Alaskan range where they spent a month trying out a new route on Mt.. Debra and Mt Hess. Yes, I realize he's far more hardcore than we are, or at least most of us. But the important thing is he's a doctor who knows what it's like to be out in the wilderness and left to your own devices. Kit: 02:55 So today I had the honor of introducing you to Dr. Christopher Segler also known as Doc on the Run. Kit: 03:11 Dr. Segler, to begin with what exactly is a sprained ankle? Dr. Segler: 03:14 Sure. So a sprained ankle is is basically where you have a ligament that supports the ankle. In most cases, it's one of the ankles on the outside of your ankle. Sort of away from the midline of the body where you feel this lump of bone on the outside of your ankle. There are three little ligaments over there, and a sprain technically is where you have stretched or a very minor strains where you basically overstretched and have developed tiny little perforations in the collagen and that forms the ligament. The worst kind of sprain is where you completely rupture the ligament and that's a grade three sprain. A grade two sprains where there's a partial little rip that you could actually see at the edge of it. But none of that really matters that much as you can't see it. So you know grading ankle sprains doesn't really help you very much, but it's basically where you are walking along and you step on something, sort of on the arch side of your foot or under your big toe that pushes your foot over so that your foot kind of rolls to the outside and you then stretch and strain those ligaments in a way that they actually rip or tear Dr. Segler: 04:25 And you know that in itself is not such a problem, but when you're on a trip and that happens then it can sort of evolve over a period of hours or days to where it actually gets considerably worse. And once that happens it actually really can disrupt your trip because you can have a very difficult time walking. And it can get progressively worse. A lot of time these things catch people off guard. Kit: 04:48 So if we twister sprained ankle What do we do? Is there anything we can do? Dr. Segler: 04:53 There's always something you can do. So the first thing is to be aware that it can happen right? And and then, I mean, I can share a story about how that can happen and this was a there was a trip where I was actually rock climbing with a friend of mine, and obviously I know to about ankle sprains, right? So I treat them, I lecture to physicians about how to not miss subtle ankle fractures that appear to be ankle sprains but are actually teeny tiny little fractures that are really easily missed. You know I've researched those and when I was in residency I won an award for that, so I go to conferences, and they say I'm an expert on this. So I should know of all people. But a friend of mine, his name is Adam, and we were both rock climbing in Yosemite and we're on a very long route. Dr. Segler: 05:37 It's fairly easy as far as a rock climb goes but it's very very long. So it's definitely an all day rock climb. And we were just sort of starting the day it was super early in the morning and we were a few hundred feet up and Adam was leading. So he was going first and there's this one place where it's pretty easy but it's sort of sloped and he was stepping up from one position to another and he fell and he didn't fall very far… just a couple of feet, but he landed on a sloped surface. And when he did, it rolled his ankle over– sort of classic ankle sprain problem where he just sort of slipped on a sloping surface. And he said he sprained his ankle. Dr. Segler: 06:22 And so he came back down to where I was and I said, “Well how is it?” And he said, “Well I think it's OK. Just give me a second. I think it's fine, let's just continue on.” So we did. Now Adam has, I guess he's kind of a tough guy. So he has a fairly high pain threshold. He wanted to continue. He probably on some level didn't want to wreck our trip because we had driven all the way to Yosemite to go do this climb that day. Dr. Segler: 06:48 And so I think you know half of it was Adam just wanted to continue and not really call any attention to himself, and the other part was that he just thought he could ignore it. So the thing is, when you sprain your ankle… when you roll your ankle like that, the first thing that happens is you get natural endorphins that suddenly, like within a few minutes, dull the pain considerably. So part of it may be that Adam just didn't really recognize how bad it was because he had these natural endorphins that protect us from that discomfort. So if you do that, and you're on the way to the car and you're going home it's no big deal. Dr. Segler: 07:21 But if you're heading up a long climb or you're heading in an isolated area where there's no cell phone reception and you have a long way to go to your next stop, that can be a problem. So I asked him, he said it was OK, I didn't even really check it because he said it was ok, so I thought, “Well OK, this must be fine.” And we continued on. The problem is, there is a point on that rock climb where you're way up and really high up a few hours in and once you sort of make this one traverse you cannot get back down unless you get to the top. It's very very difficult to get off the climb at that point. So we got there, and Adam said he thought it was OK but it was getting kind of sore. Dr. Segler: 08:03 But we continued anyway. Within a couple of hours after that, he was having a lot of difficulty. The ankle really started to swell and it got progressively worse pretty quickly at that point. And that was a real problem because it's a very hot day. We were not really prepared to be there for the entire day. We thought we were going to move quickly and we didn't have enough water. So when it's very very hot, you need water. And it was very very hot. And so we both got severely dehydrated and then the last few sections climb, I remember Adam was moving really slowly and he would stop. I would hear him grunt in pain and he would just sort of stand there on the side of the wall just stopping to like kind of recover before you continue on. Dr. Segler: 08:51 So it got more and more painful as the day went on. That turned into a really serious adventure. So it ended up what was supposed to take us six hours ended up taking us more than 12. And we got down that night were both severely dehydrated and it was not really what we had planned for. And that's the thing, is that this could have been all preventable by a couple of things. First of all, if if we had had any way to do something about the swelling as was starting to happen, it wouldn't have become a problem. If Adam had done some stuff to strengthen his ankles before that, it would not have been a problem. But we didn't do either of those things so he had some ankle instability that put him at risk of this injury. Dr. Segler: 09:31 And then when it actually happened, we didn't really stop to assess it and do something about it right away. And if we had done something as simple as taping his ankle or even having him put a compression sock on, then it would not have swelled and become as painful as it was, and really put us at risk of a more serious problem. We really did have the risk of getting stranded on the wall and it was way after dark when we finally got down. So repelling off a huge rock climb where we're a quarter mile off the ground, in the dark, is not really ideal but that's what we had to do. And so really, just knowing what to do when this happens really can make a big difference at getting you to your next stopping point without your adventure turning into a misadventure. Kit: 10:18 So how do we assess it? We're not a doctor. We don't have you there on the trail with us. What do we do? How do we see if this is just something we can blow off, or do we need to stop and address it right then? Dr. Segler: 10:27 That's a good question. So the first thing is soreness. So if you roll your ankle and it hurts, ten you did something, right? And I have a lot of sort of inherent instability because I had damaged my ankles in a number of ways many years ago. I fully rehabilitated them and I still do lots of active stuff around on trails. I do lots of adventure travel sort things… rock climbing, all kinds of stuff lots of hiking. And I'm not at risk now. But the thing is when you sprain your ankle, first of all it hurts. And so it's really simple: if you feel that lump of bone on the outside of your ankle and you push around and it hurts anywhere around there those are where the ligaments are so the specific location of the ligaments doesn't really matter. Dr. Segler: 11:12 So if you push around there there's a joint capsule that holds all the fluid in your ankle and any portion of that joint capsule will probably be sore if you sprained your ankle. Now the problem is that it starts to swell within a short period of time. And if you can do anything to decrease the swelling, that will make the biggest difference. The problem with Adam was early in the morning he had sprained his ankle. He was trying to ignore it. He wanted to ignore it, and then it just got worse because he didn't do anything about it. Now at that time, realistically, when we were on the wall, I actually had a pair of compression socks — they were in my backpack. Dr. Segler: 11:55 Interestingly, on the way home I had Adam put the compression socks on and he improved considerably, just while we were driving home in the middle of the night. But, if we had just stopped long enough to really consider that, and I said , “Well OK, you sprained your ankle. It's probably going to swell. That's predictable. So why don't you just put on this compression sock?” We probably would not have had much of a problem. So it probably would have gotten a little bit worse but not nearly as bad as it did. Dr. Segler: 12:19 So now yesterday I saw a guy at home who sprained his ankle. And it was two weeks ago: he still has swelling. And so that's all residual swelling from where they had that initial blow up where it was really, really swollen. And you have to prevent that. That's just too much inflammation. And that's what really disrupts people. They get so swollen that it's really painful. It's hard to hike, it's hard to walk, and then it really disrupts your trip. Dr. Segler: 12:42 So initially if you can just tape it or even use compression socks… like a lot of people they go on adventure travel, they are going to some faraway destination, they're taking a plane to get there. And many people will wear compression socks just on the plane as a preventative thing. And if you have those compression socks, they don't weigh very much. They may not be the most comfortable things but if you put it on as soon as your sprain an ankle,your chances of it is not swelling as much are way better. So that's probably the simplest thing. Lots of doctors would argue that you should tape the ankle to support and protect it, but the truth is, is that even if we talk about it right now about how to exactly do that, it's a sort of technique thing, and it's not easy to remember. Most people are not going to carry a roll of athletic tape with them when they go on a hike. Dr. Segler: 13:31 And and it's not realistic, but the compression sock… it's so easy to bring a pair compression socks, and and if you do sprain your ankle and you just put the compression socks, on it will make a huge difference. Kit: 13:44 if you're not familiar with compression socks, I put a link in the show notes at the ActiveTravelAdventurist.com Web site. I know is at least one of these socks going in each of my packs from now on. What a great suggestion! Kit: 13:55 Is there any risk of doing permanent damage by walking, like if Adam had kept going going going, could he have done something permanent? Or as long as you eventually make it back you're OK? Dr. Segler: 14:07 That's a good question. So the short answer is yes, there's always a risk you could do more damage. But, that's only if you really have a fracture. And now fractures do happen. So I will tell you like one of the research studies I did when I was in residency was on this subtle fracture pattern called a lateral process fracture. The specifics of it aren't important, it's just that when I was in med school we were taught that the occurrence of lateral process fractures or how often they actually happen was actually really, really, really rare. And so we were taught that it was 0.86 percent of all ankle injuries involved. One of these little subtle ankle fractures on the outside of your ankle right where it hurts when you have an ankle sprain. Dr. Segler: 14:55 So what I did was, I got it approved through the University Institutional Review Board. We reviewed three years worth of patients that came through the university hospitals and clinics and looked at a huge number of patient. So it was in the end, after we eliminated all the people who didn't qualify, it was 1480 patients. And all we were trying to do is figure out whether or not these things were really that rare because it didn't seem like they were that rare. And sure enough that it occurs and almost 10 percent of all ankle sprains. So basically, you have a one in 10 chance of actually having one of these subtle fractures. Dr. Segler: 15:28 So the thing is if you have a standard ankle sprain it doesn't really hurt that much when you start walking on it. It may hurt a little bit. It gets way worse if you keep walking on it just because it keeps swelling and it gets more and more swollen. The tissue on the inside of the joints sort of swells inward and then that swollen tissue is getting pinched between the bones when you move your foot up and down as you walk. So that's what really happens with an ankle sprain. But if you have one of these subtle fractures or if it's a bad one then it's certainly going to hurt a whole lot more. And if you have that, yes, there is a risk that you could do more damage. So if you're concerned that you have one of those because it is really really painful initially, then there is a risk that you can make it worse by walking on it. Dr. Segler: 16:12 So you don't want to just ignore it. And the biggest mistake we made was that we basically, Adam and I both just more or less ignored it thinking well it will be OK. It's just a minor thing, but it got worse. And so if you have that kind of pain that really is super sensitive and it's really tender when you press on it then you're better off if you if you take it easy. Kit: 16:35 So if I'm understanding you, if right after we twist it if we have immediate hard pain then we may have done that, that 10 percent fracturing. If it's OK and then progressively it gets worse, it's more likely just a sprain? Dr. Segler: 16:48 That's true. That's true. So yes, the subtle ankle fractures, the're first of all that's one out of 10 so it's not really common. But it's also associated with a more severe injury like, (for example) you're wearing a heavy pack. You slip on the side of some loose terrain… some scree or something like that. Dr. Segler: 17:08 And and you have a significant fall. Whereas ankle sprain is, like Adam didn't even fall dow. His foot just kind of flipped over because he was landing on a sloping surface. And and it sort of startled him, but it didn't really hurt that much. But you can imagine that if you, as opposed to just stretching the soft tissue which is basically what an ankle sprain is, if you actually cracked the bone, that's definitely going to hurt more. And then every time you move it it you're moving this fracture… this broken piece of bone. You have jagged bone kind of bumping up against each other where the two pieces are. And that causes a lot of pain. Whereas if you just have an ankle sprain, many times when you're moving it around, it actually starts to feel better just because, I don't know, it kind of pushes some of the fluid out of that area. And it may not hurt that much when you're first moving it. So the more tenderness you have generally the worse it is. Kit: 17:58 In both cases, or one on the other, is it a good time to take vitamin I or ibuprofen? Dr. Segler: 18:06 Well yes. So this is, well, good idea. It depends on your goal. So the thing is, is that if you just have a sprain and you, let's say you are somewhere in a remote area, you're on one of these adventure trips, right? And you're not exactly in a convenient area: you don't have cell reception. You're in Glacier, right? If you're, like on your podcast on glacier, if you're in the middle of nowhere on a trail, you have no cell reception, you have miles to go before you get to the next camp, the next stopping point, or a ranger station, and you really need to get there… almost like a self-rescue kind of thing. I think it's better to take ibuprofen because it will significantly reduce the discomfort. Now, although it is a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory, and just because the name we always think it stops inflammation, they really won't stop inflammation that way. Dr. Segler: 18:52 Like if Adam had taken a bunch of ibuprofen right when he sprained his ankle, it was still going to swell. It doesn't really work as an anti-inflammatory until you've taken it for a number of days. But it will certainly decrease the discomfort. So if the goal is to get somewhere, to get to safety, to get to your next stopping point, I think it's worth doing. However if the goal is to get it to heal as quickly as possible, taking ibuprofen or any non-steroidal anti-inflammatory like, Aleve, Nuproxen, any of those things, it's actually counterproductive because studies have shown that non-steroidal anti-inflammatories can actually decrease the healing time for tendon to bone interfaces. And all a ligament is, is basically collagen that connects two bones. So when you have an ankle sprain, you actually have damaged that interface where the bone touches to the collagen ligament. Dr. Segler: 19:45 And if you take anti-inflammatories it can slow down the healing process. So if you think you just have a standard ankle sprain and you need to take it for pain control to get somewhere I think that's fine but if you're trying to get it to heal as quickly as possible I think that can be counterproductive. Kit: 20:01 And Doctor, what kind of dose of ibuprofen would we take if we're just trying to get to the next place? Dr. Segler: 20:05 Well that's a good question. So the thing is, is that without an assessment you should never take more than the over-the-counter doses. What that means for Ibuprofen is basically 400 milligrams or two of the over-the-counter pills. Anything more than that is a prescription dose. But you know many patients do that. They will frequently just on their own take full strength prescription strength doses which would be three or four of them but that's not a good idea unless you talk to your doctor. Because if you have any kidney problems or any that sort of stuff, G.I. gastrointestinal problems, if you have stomach ulcers, anything like that, that can be a terrible idea to take high doses or prescription doses of ibuprofen. Kit: 20:42 Are there any techniques you can give us that will help us prevent the injury in the first place? Dr. Segler: 20:47 Before we talk about how to prevent it, one other thing that actually can really work extremely well if you sprain your ankle, to shut off the inflammation, that's even better than ibuprofen… which doesn't happen everywhere for sure, you know in the Grand Canyon, you kind of only have one choice for water and that's at the bottom of the canyon. But if you're in Glacier, if you're in a number of national parks, if you're in Yosemite, there are rivers, most of which are formed by glacial melt, right? Or are snow melt and they're very very cold, right? And so if you ice the ankle that's one of the best things to stop inflammation. So if you happen to have a mountain stream, that's cold running water, that just sitting with your ankle in the river or stream you know for 10 minutes can make an enormous difference because it constricts all the blood flow and really prevents that inflammation from starting very very effectively. So if you happen to roll your ankle and there is some sort of mountain stream nearby that's cold running water, particularly anywhere like glacier or those types you know in the Himalayas, any of those areas, that can make a huge difference is stopping the inflammation Kit: 21:56 Is there any risk when you take your feet out of your shoes/your boots and it swells up that you can't get them back in? I guess with the rivers they would stay constrained but if you're resting your feet, is there… is that a possibility when you say it swells? Dr. Segler: 22:10 There is a possibility that could happen but that's going to happen either way. The boots aren't really tight enough to stop the swelling. Compression socks would prevent that from happening. But if you are going to take your… and a lot of people want to do that. It feels better to take their boots off. But the truth is, is that the best thing you can do, if you don't have access to a glacial stream or you didn't bring your compression socks or whatever, if you can basically just lie on your back with your feet straight up, leaning against a tree or against a rock, or whatever, and you have your feet way up above your heart. That makes a huge difference is stopping the inflammation because the blood flow has to fight gravity and go uphill at that point. And so keeping your boots and your socks on I think is better because any external compression will help also reduce that inflammation that happens after an ankle sprain. Kit: 22:59 So what kinds of things can we do to prevent problems in the future. Dr. Segler: 23:02 Right. So the first thing is to figure out whether or not you're really at risk. Not everybody has ankle instability but the first thing is, if you've ever sprained your ankle, you're at enormous risk for developing another ankle sprain in the future. So if you roll your ankles when you're a kid, if you sprain your ankles in college playing basketball, if you roll your ankle one time on the beach walking in the sand, you're at risk. And most patients who have had those sort of remote history of an ankle sprain, some time long ago, many years ago, they always think, “Well that was 20 years ago. Can't be a problem.” And so I see these patients all the time and even when I do Skype consult for somebody, for example, they'll tell me that they sprained their ankle a long time ago but it doesn't matter anymore. Dr. Segler: 23:46 And I'll say ok and I have them do a very, very simple test. And all I do is I tell them OK: stand in the middle of the room and hold your arms out straight. So it looks kind of like the the the drunk test on the side of the road. And I just stand there with feet together hold your arms out straight now close your eyes and they kind of roll their eyes more or less and say OK. And then I say OK , now great. Now pick up your right foot. So if their previously injured foot is their right foot, the bad one, pick up their bad foot. So that is just suspended in the air. Kind of like looks like a stork, the way they pick up their leg. Dr. Segler: 24:21 And basically standing there with their arms outstretched bouncing on the right foot with their eyes closed and they may kind of wobble a little bit but they can more or less just balance. And I'll wait until it's been about 10 seconds just to confirm that they can actually balance OK in that position, balancing on one foot. Then I say, OK great. Now put your right foot on the ground, you know, your bad foot. Pick up your good foot, your left foot, hold your left foot up in the air with your eyes closed, your arms outstretched, to see if you can balance. And though usually they keep putting their foot down, losing their balance repeatedly and because their arms are outstretched, they can see how far their arms are swinging before they catch their balance. And at that point what's happening is they actually tore the nerve fibers in the joint capsule when they rolled the ankle so they can't really tell the position of the ankle anymore. Dr. Segler: 25:08 And so the ankle to them feels weaker but it's really just that they've lost what we call proprioception or the ability to determine the position in space based on the ankle moving. And that happens every time you roll your ankle. So if you roll your ankle, you don't have the ability to feel that anymore. And so you know somebody like Adam that has maybe sprained his ankle before and he falls, he lands on the surface, and it starts to roll his ankle, he doesn't notice it's rolling until he feels that he's falling because his vestibular system, or the balance center in his middle ear, actually picks up the motion of him sort of moving sideways to start to fall. Dr. Segler: 25:48 And then it's too late. Your the muscles around the ankle, the peroneus brevis tendon, those things actually stabilize your ankle, they can't pull your foot back under you at that point, and you roll your ankle. So if you do that test where you balance on one foot with your arms outstretched and your eyes closed and you can tell that one foot is considerably weaker than the other, or you have a lot of trouble trying to balance on one foot, then you can do some simple exercises to really strengthen that ankle and actually get that sort of proprioception, or the ability to tell a position without thinking about it, you can get that back by using the stretch receptors in the muscles and it's really just a simple routine. Dr. Segler: 26:31 So there's there's basically a couple of really simple exercises. One of those is where you cross your feet. So like if you're sitting in a chair with your legs outstretched and you cross your legs and you put your little toe joints together and then you push it will stabilize the the the ankles the muscle that supports the ankle the peroneus brevis tendon primarily. And I could actually send you a video that you can put on the Web site if you'd like, or link to it but it's just a short video there may that shows you exactly how to do that. And that's something you can do while you're sitting on a plane while you're sitting at your desk. If you do that that I think is the one exercise that can cause the most increase in strength for anybody with ankle instability. Then for people that have really sprained their ankles, I give them a very specific rehabilitation thing that's like phase one, phase two, and phase three. Dr. Segler: 27:16 Phase three is where you use a wobble board to deliberately train your ankle to become stronger. And I can send you that as well if you want to supply it for people who listen to the podcast The phase three part is what really strengthens your ankle and makes you more or less immune to those kind of sprains that otherwise you'd be so susceptible to. Dr. Segler: 27:38 And literally like spending three minutes a day you could strengthen the ankles in just a couple of weeks. So you'd be at dramatically lower risk for having these kind of problems. Kit: 27:50 If you go to the ActiveTravelAdventures.com Web site, I'll post the video that Dr. Segler talked about for the exercise. I've also posted a video of me doing the self test like the stork to see what my ankles look like. And also have a link to the wobble board. You can find it on the site by either looking up Bonus Episode number two, Dr. Segler, ankles or any of the key search terms should be able to pull it up for you. Just type any of those terms in the magnifying glass search bar. Kit: 28:21 What's the deal on having the shoes having the ankle support? I've always worn like the Merrell trail shoes so they're like a sneaker on the top but then have the trek on the bottom. How important is it to have ankle support? Dr. Segler: 28:33 Well that's a good question. You know so here's the thing. So I actually really wondered about that. And when I was a student in med school, I actually did a research study and because I wondered about this. It was supposed to be about climbing injuries. But the truth is, this study was really about hiking to rock climbs. And so what I did was, I did a study on frequency and mechanisms of injury among rock climbers. And it was the largest type of that sort of study ever done. I actually got a grant from the American Alpine Club to do that investigation. Dr. Segler: 29:09 And that's the thing is, that it's really about the hiking to the climb because I had the suspicion that climbers don't necessarily get injured that much from falling. Dr. Segler: 29:17 It's really from tripping and slipping and spraining ankles and stuff like that while they're riding a heavy pack, wearing relatively lightweight hiking shoes, on their way to the climbs. And many times there's no trail. It's usually some kind of unstable surface. But what I did was I basically sent out surveys to 3500 members of the American Alpine Club and then it got back 603 completed questionnaires. Now the thing is is that the really interesting thing for everybody listening to this is that 80 percent of climbers who reported spraining an ankle while hiking to the base of a climb were wearing those sort of lightweight hiking boots or hiking shoes that you're talking about. And the overwhelming majority of people who fractured an ankle while hiking also were wearing lightweight hiking boots. So lightweight hiking boots are very popular because they breathe. They usually have uppers that are sort of mesh or some lightweight material so that they are comfortable when they're hot and they're light weight. Right? Dr. Segler: 30:16 So they're they're not heavy, and they're more comfortable, but they don't protect you very well. So heavyweight backpacking boots are way more protective. They're also a lot stiffer. They're hard to get used to. You are more risk of getting blisters if you have those and haven't really broken them in. But after that study, I started really put in a lot of effort into encouraging people hiking and rock climbing to wear more sturdy boots. And I think that they actually do really decrease your risk of having an injury if you have more stable heavyweight backpacking boots. So if you pick up the shoe and you hold it in your hands, you try to twist the sole out of shape. It's virtually impossible to twist it out of shape. Dr. Segler: 30:59 It's also very very difficult to bend the sole out of shape as if you're pushing the toes up. But with lightweight hiking shoes and hiking boots is very easy to do that. So I believe they will protect you because they do provide a lot more support provided they're laced up and they're laced appropriately. If you have them loosely laced or you don't lace the top laces they actually really won't help you as much. So then at that point you have a more stable platform underneath you but it doesn't really protect you from ankle sprains So I think that it's important to really think about your footwear, and if you're doing a lot of hiking on the trip, if you can wear the heavyweight boots it actually will protect you some. Kit: 31:41 I'm actually just shopping for some. I'm getting ready to prepare for a trip out to the Himalayas where they are recommending that I wear boots, and at the stores I'm seeing more of the synthetic material instead the leather. Does make a difference? I mean does leather provide a benefit that the synthetics don't? Dr. Segler: 31:55 That's a good question. So in the past I would have said 20 years ago for sure leather was better. But lots of companies now, like La Sportiva and some others, they have really made big strides in terms of increasing the stiffness of heavy weight backpacking boots that are made of synthetic materials. So there's a benefit to everything right? So the synthetics are usually lined with Gore-Tex or something. They're basically waterproof if they do get wet, they dry out faster. If leather boots get wet, they stay wet. If they're wet and they're Gore-Tex leather boots, it doesn't matter your feet don't get cold or wet but the boots are way heavier if they're soaking wet. And you may not think that's a big deal but if you're hiking in the Himalayas and you're hiking 10 miles you have to pick your foot up and put it down a lot of times. Dr. Segler: 32:41 And you know that increased weight does make a difference over time. So the synthetic materials are generally lighter. And you can tell because if you try to twist the boot out of shape — you find like the biggest strongest guy in the store and ask him, see if he can bend this thing… so bend the sole and it won't bend, and you squeeze the heel counter the part of the back of the boot that goes around your heel and it's rock hard and very very stiff, then it's going to be just as supportive as a really heavy weight backpacking boot that's made of leather. Kit: 33:12 What advice can you give us about choosing the right pair of boots? Dr. Segler: 33:23 That's a great question. So the thing is, as many people are concerned that they're going to get blisters or black and blue toenails. And so one common error is that they'll get shoes that are too big. Many times they'll say well maybe I'll get them that are big because I'm going to wear two or three pairs of socks with them. We don't need to wear two or three pairs of socks unless you're going someplace where it's 40 below zero. So if you have boots that fit you appropriately you're at a lower risk of getting problems. So if you get boots that are too big, first of all you have to remember that the shoe break or the curvature that's under the ball the foot is in the wrong position. So when you walk when your heel comes up off the ground your toes are still on the ground and your foot's bending at the ball the foot that's where you want the curvature of the shoe. Dr. Segler: 34:01 If you get a shoe that's one size too big for you the curvature is out in front of you. And those patients then that have boots that are too big they're basically kind of like vaulting off the end of the shoe and it makes things awkward and it can put you at risk of all kinds of different overuse injuries. So it's really important to make sure they fit appropriately. Now most stores, if you go into some store that specializes in hiking boots and that sort of stuff, they'll have people that are knowledgeable about how to fit you correctly and they'll check you and make sure you get the right size shoes. Obviously you don't want your toes banging up against the inside of the boots, but you also don't want them too big. So I would just caution people to make sure that they're getting the right sized boots by getting an appropriate fitting. Kit: 34:42 Should we get rid of the inserts that come with them and put something else in? Dr. Segler: 34:45 I don't think it matters unless you have foot problems. So that's a very popular thing to do. There's a whole range of over-the-counter inserts that are really good. There's lots of different ones available and they can provide more support. Dr. Segler: 35:00 It just depends upon whether or not you need them. And the other thing is, that if you're going to do that, you should definitely do it when you buy the boots. Because the inserts that come in most hiking boots are thinner than the over-the-counter orthotics or over-the-counter inserts that go in the shoes because they're designed to have more support. So because they have more support they have more material underneath you. And if you get boots that fit you perfectly and then you buy some inserts that are thicker by three or four millimeters and you put them in your shoes and suddenly it lifts you up and you may be hitting your toes against inside of the toe box and you have less room in the shoes. So then you've just sort of by buying the inserts may have made your shoes effectively like a half a size too small. Kit: 35:42 Before we sign off is there anything else important that we should know about the treatment and prevention of sprained ankles? Dr. Segler: 35:49 I think that's the main thing. I mean the reality is, is you know you don't need to go prepared with splinting materials and planning for every disaster, right? You have to carry everything you take when you go on an adventure trip and you want to make sure you're prepared, but taking some compression socks is really the simplest thing you can do. Knowing that you can basically ice it by soaking your foot and ankle in a in a stream or elevating it if you do actually sprain it. That's really all you need. But then it's really just doing that self-test at home to see, “Am I or am I not really at risk for problems?” And if I am, then really just trying to do some quick exercises. Just really like, truly like, a couple of minutes a day to get some more ankle stability can go a long way to preventing the kind of problems that could otherwise wreck your trip. Kit: 36:35 Doctor, you also have a podcast can you tell us about that, please? Dr. Segler: 36:41 I do. So, I have a podcast called the Doc on the Run podcast, and mostly I treat injured runners and triathletes. So I see all kinds of patients. I mean, one of the people yesterday was a rock climber. I see lots of different patients. People get injured hiking and everything else. But basically what I do is, I I just realized a long time ago that a lot of times when you go to the doctor they tell you something that just doesn't sit right. Dr. Segler: 37:07 In fact, my my first episode of that I was racing motorcycles professionally and I had damaged my knee and the doctor actually said, “Well if it only hurts when you're riding motorcycles you just quit riding motorcycles.” And then what I learned was that doctors would also tell people, “Well if it hurts when you're running you should just swim. Or if it hurts when you hike you should just do something else.” And the reality is, it's not the doctor's job to tell you what to do. It's the doctor's job to get you back to your activity whatever that is. If you want to hike and you have problems hiking you need somebody that's going to help you get there. And if you want to hike 10 miles a day, then your doctor should help you get to hiking 10 miles a day. So basically I created a podcast to help people understand how to deal with those injuries and how to continue maintaining activity while they're injured so they don't lose all of their fitness. I mean because, let's face it if you're going to go on a long trip you spend a lot of time training, them when you get injured, you lose all of that fitness. And that can be very very frustrating. Dr. Segler: 38:04 I created a podcast to try to help people understand all these different kinds of injuries and help them figure out how to maintain their activity so that they can get back to those those activities as quickly as possible. Kit: 38:15 I noticed on your DocOnTheRun.com Web site you have lots of resources. How about telling us a little bit about those please? Dr. Segler: 38:23 Yes, there are lots of resources. There are lots of different videos, lots of sort of self-diagnosis tools, lots of worksheets to help people figure out what to do and and even some worksheets like one I think came out, well it's coming out tomorrow actually. Basically the idea of when you go to a doctor and they tell you that you need a fractural walking boot, for example. It's basically a worksheet where all you do is printed out, and it tells you what questions to ask your doctor. And that can be useful for anybody with any kind of injury when they want to get back to activity. Because you have to sometimes, when you go to the doctor, you have to get them to slow down and to actually pay attention to what your desired activity is. Dr. Segler: 39:07 So if you say, well I sprained my ankle and the doctor says just take six weeks off, but you're leaving for a trip to go to Glacier National Park in four weeks. That's not really going to work. And so you need to sort of get the doctor to slow down and say, “OK wel,l if I want to go to Glacier do this hike in four weeks, how do I get there?” And it's really just a lot of resources like that where you, a way to help you manage your doctor's visits and get the information you need from the doctor. Because the truth is, it's the doctor's job to go to school, get all the training, learn all this stuff that it takes to help you get better. It's your job as a patient to go to the doctor ready to extract all that information from the doctor. And that's what you really have to do when you go see a doctor, when you have all these injuries and you want to stay active. Kit: 39:46 I'll be sure to put a link to that in the show as well. And I'm also going to put all of your social media contacts but is there a best way for people to reach out to you? Dr. Segler: 39:54 Well the best way is just to, you can go to the Web site to DocOnTheRun.com and send an e-mail through there. You can also e-mail me directly it's just Dr. Segler D-R-S-E-G-L-E-R@DocOnTheRun.com [drsegler@docontherun.com]. Kit: 40:08 Dr. Segler We really appreciate your time. You've given us some great information and I hope we can get you back on another episode. Dr. Segler: 40:13 Allright that sounds great. Thanks. Kit: 40:15 I hope you got as much information out of this program as I did. And please visit DocOnTheRun.com and also check out his podcast. I'll have links to both on the Web site and at ActiveTravelAdventures.com. If you know a hiker or a runner, be sure to share this episode either on Facebook or via email. I'm going to be covering more what to do when something goes wrong on the trail as future bottoms episodes. So if you have questions don't hesitate to e-mail me at Kit@ActiveTravelAdventures.com on that or any ideas for future episodes. I love hearing from you and love your feedback questions and ideas. I'll see you next Thursday. Until next time Adventure on!

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She also specializes in energy based somatic therapies. She is an explorer and a traveler. She's a free spirited individual who encourages people to find their flow and life by allowing their present life to unfold. Nancy works out of Chicago. Glen Allen in Naperville Illinois and she kindly allows me to rent her Naperville office for sessions on the weekends and summer when my husband and daughter are home from school and that has been the hugest blessing for me Nancy because then I don't have to kick my family out of their house. Friends I have worked with hundreds and hundreds of people and I can honestly say that no one has energy like Nancy's. She is one of the most beautiful souls inside and out that I have ever met. Nancy and I met over a year ago in fall 2017 and we work with one another twice a month. I will go to see Nancy once a month for sessions. And Nancy comes to see me once a month for sessions and what I love about Nancy's work is that when she works on me our sessions always include a few different components.   [00:02:55] First we talk a little bit about my life and how things have changed since the last time I saw her and then Nancy will give me some feedback and advice. And then next I lay fully clothed on her massage table and Nancy uses a combination of massage and energy work to clear the energy from my body and I should say for those of you who don't understand what energy work is. It's when someone connects with God energy which is the highest vibration that is and brings through that energy to the person that they're working on for that person's highest good and highest health. Now you may be thinking, well why do two people who work with energy as a profession need energy healing treatments for themselves. Well think of it like this. Think of it like a massage therapist who likes getting massages too. You could massage yourself. And I definitely work to clear my own energy out daily but it also feels so relaxing and so rejuvenating to receive energy healing treatments as well. So when Nancy is working on me I can feel this high vibration flowing through her every time. Now when I say this I mean I feel this vibration so intensely it feels so real.   [00:04:08] It feels like I can reach out grab it and pick it up. That's how much I feel this high vibration flowing out of Nancy and after the massage and the energy work is complete. Nancy always brings through intuitive information that she receives while working on me. And Nancy always keeps it very positive. But she tells me you're focusing too much on this. You really need to be focusing on that. And she's always totally right. For example when I first met Nancy I was really focused on reiki Reiki reiki and Nancy. I'll never forget it. You said Julie I work with some big time people people who are mediums on TV and everything you tell me is spot on. You are as good as them. And you said you're prophetic and at the time I had to ask you a prophetic means because I didn't even know. But you told me that people want to connect with their angels more than anything. And it was really you who encouraged me to share my gift of connecting with angels most with my clients. That was probably some of the most validating human feedback that I received. And I just wanted to thank you for that so much because that right there just shifted everything so much for me.   [00:05:17] Julie you're too kind. Thank you so much. It's always interesting to hear how my work affects people.   [00:05:28] And it's even more interesting whenever someone says to me Oh well you said and I always am like cause I'm like oh what did I say. But because the fact of the matter is I never I never   [00:05:45] With a lot of stuff totally remember exactly what I've said to someone because truly it's coming from Spirit and not from my own ego space. So if it's accurate that's why because it's not from my you know human judgmental ego space.   [00:06:08] So that's kind of key.   [00:06:11] But yes exactly.   [00:06:13] I like to thank you for having me on and saying you know what a wonderful intro.   [00:06:22] I'm very honored and very glad you came into my life. It's been really helpful and healing so.   [00:06:30] Oh good. Isn't that amazing too. It was just kind of by coincidence we both on this Web site at the same time.   [00:06:37] I forget what that website is tumblr which Tumblr I found on tumblr.   [00:06:45] Yeah. And I was only on there for like a brief period of time and then we connected and the rest is history right.   [00:06:53] Totally intuited it. So nice.   [00:06:57] So Nancy why don't you tell the listeners more about you and the work that you do.   [00:07:01] Wow. I am a licensed massage therapist for about over 15 years now and I do a little bit of massage. But that's totally like not my focus at all anymore.   [00:07:18] That's work that's not deep enough for me so even though people think it's deep it's not. So I'm more interested in working with the energetic body more than the physical body starting out as a massage therapist. I found that I was picking up a lot of information about people and I also found that I was getting some strange physical manifestations that I'd never had before. So it was a long process but it kind of was a path to figuring out why this was happening. So I started doing studies in both energetic type of healing and intuitive studies. So studying with some. Really good psychics going up to infinity Foundation in Highland Park and taking a lot of their classes with Mel Dore who is an amazing teacher and intuitive in Chicagoland and just started working with that more and found that that's that whole path of feeling into people's energy and working with the energetic body was really more in alignment and felt more and flow with me with my work. So little by little I started studying a type of therapy called visionary cranial sacral.   [00:08:49] What is that.   [00:08:50] Yeah. That is some people have heard of cranial sacral work and there's kind of two different forms of it. The main probably the one people are more familiar with is a form of cranial psychotherapy by a pleasure which is a more clinical form of cranial sacral work. And they really focus a lot and it's more like the actual feeling into like the sutures of the head and like feeling into the movement and just they look at it more just from a clinical base it's no matter how you put it like cranial sacral is definitely kind of way out there type of work besides massage therapists there are plenty of chiropractors who have learned it and how. Who else. Dentists. And if a doctor's doing it he's probably a d o versus an M.D. so that is not the area I'm trained and I'm trained in the visionary so that's more about intuiting more what you're feeling and understanding the energetic piece which gives a ton of information about the person what they're experiencing what their flow is and what not.   [00:10:19] So that's what it is. I mean there's books written on cranial sacral it's actually very complex. So yes I'm trained in cranial psychotherapy and sometimes that's a lot of it. It's an easier way for me to explain to people what I do. But I would say I take a big piece of it. My work from cranial sacral therapy because I do focus on both the sacrum and the the cranium the head.   [00:10:49] But I would say my work is kind of evolved into my own thing because what I do is I study with a lot of different teachers and masters and then I kind of take what they teach me and some of it works for me. A lot of times a lot of it doesn't work for me which is OK. And I just kind of have developed my own type of work with people so. So yes I'm basically I am a licensed therapist massage therapist but I kind of resonate more with. Like it an energy healing practitioner.   [00:11:34] Yeah. Perfect. Well and you know I know the difference but poor people listening out there. I always like to hear what you have to say. What what do you think are the differences the benefits that people receive when they're getting like a strict massage only verses when they walk away from an energy healing treatment or what would you call it.   [00:11:57] What would I call it well Mossad is wonderful. No one. But that is very much focused on our muscular body which of course is important an energy healing work is more focused on the energetic body which is actually deeper work.   [00:12:21] So the energy of your of your body your soul self whatever it is, is something that we are surrounded by and are deeply affected by. But a lot of people aren't very aware of their energetic body and this is how a lot of times we get. I like to say zapped by other people or places situations. It's kind of again like it is a tangible concept but for a lot of people it's not but energy is just in everything especially us.   [00:13:10] And if we can learn to work with it and feel into it both ours and other people and situations even objects it'll go a long way to help us. So the whole point of energy healing session which I think this is a bigger piece of it than the massage piece is I want to help people learn to heal themselves. OK. It's like what you said in the beginning. It's hard you know you can massage yourself but it doesn't really feel as good. But with energy work if you consistently receive it you do learn to feel into your own energy and that of others and to work with it.   [00:13:59] And ultimately it helps you to learn like what areas or what people or what situations you're more in flow with the whole idea is to help you be going you know downstream instead of upstream and removing blocks. That's another part of the work is to get a lot of times pain and dysfunction whether it's physical pain or emotional pain which I believe are connected when you have that you have something stuck energetically in your body. So another piece of the work is trying to help people move that out and release it basically releasing what doesn't serve you.   [00:14:37] And that is the art of it all right. Because we don't go around as human beings saying oh I really feel like I've got this stuck in my throat shocker I really feel like I've got this stuck out in my Auric field but as you learn an energy healing modality and you come into it you know when I teach people Reiki the most fun part is the first day when I'm having people for the very first time feel into the different chakras feel into the crowd and feel into the third I feel and to the throat chakra and they look at me with this shocked stunned face because I've had people say they feel so different.   [00:15:22] How did I never know that you could go into these different areas of the body and they feel so different but they do well yeah I mean one thing with our society in particular is we're very focused on everything outside of ourselves to make us feel better or fix us. And the whole point of energy work is to go inside and work with that energy which is really quite a bit more powerful than anything outside of ourselves because you have everything you need and you know what's best for yourself more than anybody else. And if you can tap into that to that inner wisdom and guidance it's a very powerful thing.   [00:16:07] Yeah. You know that's why we're friends Nancy because everything you say I'm like yes yes yes yes. Out of all the teachers that I met I think I align most with your ideals your philosophy your way of working. It's the tribe well and like you said before because I really feel like this is how I've built my practice is I have worked with a lot of different spiritual teachers along the way. And you're right. So many of them you get to a point like now not so much just like then just doesn't work. But there are other parts that they taught me which I do like which I do incorporate but with you there's just so much that's just dead on with the way that I see it as well.   [00:16:56] I'm glad. Well again that's probably an energetic process to be honest with you because if you listen to the energy this is a thing when you really learn how to work with your energy. You learn as you go through life that some people just you're not going to really flow with an you know it's not really it's never really a smart thing or it's going to be a waste of your time to try and get somebody to be something that they're not. Right. Right now they are who they are. So you'll start pulling in more people who are. More aligned with who you are if you're more in tune with energetically who you are. Yeah. Yeah but definitely the ones who aren't like you have a lot to teach you.   [00:17:46] That's better. That's a fact. That's true. And nobody knows where everybody you know right.   [00:17:51] That's true because a lot of the teachers who work for me I learned I I learned what I didn't want and the way that I didn't want to do things which was important info.   [00:18:05] Yes.   [00:18:06] So on this podcast and in my work I relate the vibration that I feel that I try to live most of my day and I call it high vibration because I watch Spirit shows me as everything is energy. Well energy vibrates vibrates at different levels or different frequencies. And when I tell people is God is the highest energy vibration that is and what you're doing is connecting with that energy. And when I live in it it feels like you're living in a different dimension. It feels like heaven on earth. How do you describe that vibration or what do you believe this high vibration is wow.   [00:18:49] I agree I think the highest vibration is you know the divine god. I also think though it's love.   [00:18:58] So love being the highest vibration and emotions like I think fear being one of the lower vibrations but it's really about feeling into when you're in those type of emotional states. How do you feel you know what's going on in your body right. Right. Both physically mentally and emotionally it's all tied together.   [00:19:31] Right. So how do you live your life in that high vibration. How do you maintain it   [00:19:42] For sure.   [00:19:43] My best most important tool is a very solid meditation slash stillness practice. This is something that I do every day. This is how I start my day. Sometimes I will meditate. I don't know four or five times in a day. And it and you know it's I try to do it for at least 20 minutes in the morning. If I'm really rushed I can only do five. Fine. It's better than nothing. But what that stillness practice helps you to learn is that you're more than your thoughts and your thoughts are always the truth. So I'm a believer of a lot of suffering.   [00:20:37] One may experience is because you are having beliefs in thoughts and information that aren't even true. So with a stone this practice the idea is to get past that ego mind and more again into your your soul self or your heart space where that is. That is the truth the body does not lie. Your energetic body does not lie. And it helps you learn that all of your chaos and drama and we all have it does not define you at all.   [00:21:20] And it helps you to separate from that and not let it take you over so that's probably the main without a doubt the main tool that in prayer. You know I always say meditation is like listening to what God has to say to us. And prayer is asking   [00:21:51] Yeah. I would say the meditation practice probably was a game changer for me. Yeah.   [00:21:57] Completely. So I want to go a little bit deeper into this and some real life examples. And a lot of people who are listening right now like myself. We have young children and I challenge myself to hold that meditative high vibrational state as much as I can throughout my day. But one area where I lose that vibration easily is being a parent. And I just find that being a parent brings so much emotion out of me. I mean there's that aspect of joy and love but there's also that aspect of fear and stress and frustration and over the last six months my daughter's been going through this very whiny complaining phase we don't spank or we don't believe in that we. And we don't normally take things away because she's just always been a pretty well behaved kid but lately we've been giving her a choice you can either change your behavior or we're going to take away your iPad for an hour and that works but the out the behavior starts to come back like an hour later or the next day. In fact we were just at Great Wolf Lodge which is an indoor water park like slash hotel complained non-stop the entire first day. We we ended up getting to the point where we said you have one last chance. And if this behavior doesn't stop we're not going to stay a second night we're just going to go home. And the hardest thing was sticking to that because behavior didn't stop. So we packed up we went home early and then the waterworks came. Oh my goodness. That year. And since we've been going on about six months now with this I find that now I even have anxiety about going places with her because my ego and mind is getting in and saying it's not going to be fun. She's going to come plain going with her. You know it's just not fun anymore. So my question Nancy is this. You have three children. Your youngest is in high school. How did you hold this high vibration in your life when your kids were young   [00:24:10] Wow OK. First of all like parenting is one of the greatest challenges but probably the greatest experience of my life. So holding the vibe high is just realizing that at least personally speaking for me my kids have been my greatest teachers. So for the most part any areas where they've really challenged me if I'm really honest with myself I'm looking at their behavior and they're basically throwing my behavior back in my face I things I need to work on. So first just being aware of that. OK. Second I have found that again if you go back to the energy of it. One really important thing to remember is another thing that is energy is our thoughts.   [00:25:11] Right. It's. Yeah yeah. I'm. I'm a huge believer in change your thoughts change your life. OK. Absolutely. So your kids can definitely pick up on what you're thinking. So if you think they're going to act up and be a pain in the Guess what.   [00:25:32] They probably are so again this is all easier said than done. Because again we're human and we're really really powerfully most regulated by our ego space. So a lot of times the best thing to do is when your kid is really challenging you is to go into more of holding a space versus holding the space for them but not giving their you know obnoxious behavior much energy at it. So allow mimes. Kids are acting up because they want your attention. You know they or they just they can't get enough attention. That type of thing. You know all of us have to learn that we have to take care of ourselves. Right.   [00:26:28] You know there's there's going to never be a space in life for somebody who takes care of you nonstop. It's really up to you. So even you know supermom cannot take care of their kid you know especially attention wise 24/7.   [00:26:46] No we need to eat and sleep too and have downtime. So I think a good thing to do oftentimes is this flight   [00:26:54] Kind of hold their space but not like Don't fan the fire like energetically you have so break down for people like I know what you mean but for people who don't understand it tell them what you mean about hold the space.   [00:27:10] And that last piece that you just said like give example something holding the space and this is something that as an energy healer. This is a big piece of the work holding a space means that this person knows that you are there like you're there as a source of support but unconditional like you're just going to let them be and you're going to be there and and help them work through this but it's their stuff and we're not going to have judgment on it and we're going to try and keep them as safe as possible but we're just going to kind of hold their space and let them work through this themselves because ultimately again like you have the answers you know what's right.   [00:28:02] Right. So that's what holding a space is OK. It's very important to be unconditional though that's super important.   [00:28:11] So going back to my example of being at great well how much you know there's a lot of offer I love that place. I mean it's fantastic it's so much cool. You can get overstimulated very quickly because there's just so much to do especially for the young ones.   [00:28:28] So right only back to that example maybe sitting down with her because I feel like I was overstimulated as well maybe sitting down with her and taking a couple of deep breaths saying Ok out there's a lot to do here we're going to pick two which is new do you want to do and and go with that instead of just allowing it to be kind of this chaotic situation holding the space coming in and just taking that time out together collectively as a family probably could have helped it.   [00:29:13] Well yeah because that would be giving providing some like boundaries for her which boundaries are very important to. In regards to energy you know it's when we don't have enough boundaries that's when you know we're just letting too much whether it's a person or a situation get into our space and it's too much. Yeah. So yes she probably was overwhelmed. I mean those type of places for me are really hard to you know you won't see me at Lollapalooza.   [00:29:47] There are certain things if you're really energy sensitive that you have to answer in yourself and you can't be bombarded by that.   [00:29:54] Yes I want to go into a couple of things. You know as you're speaking that what the other side was showing me is I do sit down with her and we do kind of hold that space every once in a while. But what it could be doing longer and what they're saying to tell everybody here is that the other thing that holding the space means that I don't do is bringing silence into it. So I work with her every once in a while and we take a couple of deep breaths but I notice that when you have those periods of silence you really center your energy what they're showing me I need to teach her is taking those periods of silence isn't a punishment. I mean let's take away the iPad for a second. Let's put everything down for a second and let's just sit and be for a minute and let's all reconnect with our energy and then let's come up with a grand plan.   [00:30:52] And I think that probably would have worked better than anything while it shifts the process out of reactionary to action because again like a lot of times when we're upset and really in our minds space like will react we'll say things we don't mean or well you know some people even strike out and do something that they don't really want to do. So if you give yourself that pause   [00:31:22] And you can go more into a space of like OK stop. What's the best action here so that you're not fanning the fire. It's like in an argument. Think of it this way. We've all been in arguments. Of which I avoid this like the plague but it is you most likely in a big argument or a fight. If someone's attacking you if you attack them back they're probably going to that's probably going to take you back and it's back and forth.   [00:31:56] Ok how about like what happens if if somebody is yelling and screaming at you and you just pretty much like shut it down by holding the space but not giving them any like of their own similar energy back for them to use an attack more with.   [00:32:17] Right. It uses everything.   [00:32:19] It's a diffuser. Yeah. And if if they won't stop then you just leave. I mean I always say like silence or no answer is an answer. Yeah. You know it's a powerful one.   [00:32:34] So that is another way of working with difficult energy.   [00:32:41] So I want to mention one thing because I heard this a while back while we're on the topic of motherhood and I want to go into it it's a little bit negative and then we'll pass it will jump into all the positive stuff. But while we're on the subject of this you know I heard a male spiritual teacher laugh at women one day and I heard this man say any somebody that I really admire. He said I was on the phone with a female spiritual teacher once and her child was really loud in the background. And when I stepped away from the conversation I could hear the frustration in her voice when she was talking to our child.   [00:33:18] Now I know the big time for female spiritual teacher he was referring to and I know she's dedicated her entire life to this work. I know personally that she holds a strong high vibration. I know that she's helped millions of people but this male leader in the spiritual community just really cut her down and made it out to be like she really wasn't as enlightened as she says she was because of the way that she had handled that situation with their child. And I just want to talk about this for a moment because have you noticed how some people in the spiritual community put on this front of perfectionism themselves. It's almost like a holier than thou persona. And I just don't believe it's real. What the angels show me is that every person here on Earth from the Queen of England to celebrities and Hollywood and CEOs you know everyone has down times and it just frustrates me I guess when these spiritual teachers continue to put on this holier than thou personas because aren't they going through frustrations and problems in their own lives. That doesn't stop for anybody.   [00:34:27] That's right yeah. Yes.   [00:34:31] I've experienced this phenomena quite a bit myself and again it's an ego thing not any one. I'll tell you what anyone who starts telling or judging people on the Enlightenment factor that they're not enlightened.   [00:34:47] Guess what.   [00:34:50] They're not very enlightened themselves. That's the thing. Who are they to judge that that is your own personal deal. And one person's enlightenment is not going to be the same as somebody else's. It's the whole point is we are all very very different unique perfectly imperfect souls. And the idea is that we need to honor and respect the differences. That's it. I mean there's no one way that is going to work for every single person. Yeah. The closest thing is would be would be the concept of love. Right. That's right. But that's that's a very you know not an easy thing to to attain all the time you know. So when all that happens a lot.   [00:35:37] Yeah. There's a great book out there for anybody who is experiencing this as well and wants more answers to this. I believe it's called something like after the Enlightenment do the laundry or something to that effect. And it's it's so true. Do you get into this state of being. You have to integrate it into your daily life and what does that look like. So I thought that that was interesting.   [00:36:05] Well here's another thing with enlightenment to in my opinion some of the times I feel most enlightened is when I'm just in the muckety muck of my muck and I accept it and don't hate myself. OK. A lot of people think   [00:36:27] That I'm somebody that has no problems and I have and I have a very uncomplicated life and all of that because I do come off as quite chill and I am chill. But the fact of the matter is that's not true at all.   [00:36:46] And I've had a ton of really complex I'm a very complex person I've had a ton of complex situations in my life both in the past and now and those kind of conflicts though and difficult issues are though what keeps me humble and helps me to work with other people because realistically if you're truly enlightened you know that everyone's got their right.   [00:37:17] Yeah. That's it I'll make sure everybody has this. Everyone.   [00:37:22] You just have to use the whole point is to help. What are you learning from it. That's the whole point.   [00:37:28] So let's jump into a fun topic. All right. We both got dogs this year and unintentionally we both basically named them the same thing.   [00:37:38] You've got Lou and I've known Lulu.   [00:37:43] I have found I haven't.   [00:37:45] I want to pet in a long time but we got Sir Fluff kittens of Oxford our little boy shit zoo we got them three years ago and he shifted the energy in our entire house.   [00:38:00] Oh yes.   [00:38:01] Tell me about animals the energy that they hold and the benefit they bring to our well-being.   [00:38:08] Oh gosh. Well our family has basically always had at least one or two dogs and we went through a period where. Earlier this year   [00:38:22] A really special dog we had had Harry who had a lot of problems.   [00:38:28] He was really funny looking and he was to be quite honest with you kind of a gross stuff that a lot of problems but he was the nicest guy ever. So just that energy alone just showed light despite all his problems. He was the nice guy. So he he absolutely was never complaining always loving you know. So he had a difficult demise and it was just really messy. I'll leave it at that.   [00:39:02] And when he finally transitioned I was like I'm we're not getting a dog for a long time because just the messes we had to clean up and the emotion and you know he did not. We had to like put him down which is usually you do have to do that but you know we were just hoping he would die on his own. But no. So it was very difficult and I thought No we're not doing that again.   [00:39:31] Within I would say a couple days. Like the whole energy of our house just shifted. It just it was such a void in the house and it didn't feel right. So sure enough I think within the speech a lie either within a couple months we had moved show up in our life. So yeah and an animal definitely brings a powerful energy into your home because they are so loving and they do you know these dogs sometimes or not. We don't give them as much attention or. You know as they want or or but it doesn't matter. They still love you anyway. Right. So now they add a ton to your to your life and you're in your household energy without a doubt without a doubt. Yeah Lou has brought a tremendous amount of joy and and healing into our home. He's just he's just so loving and no matter what's happened during the day you can come home and he will absolutely come and sit with you or he always meditates with me it's so it just yeah they're very energy sensitive a lot of animals. So again though like you got to look at your energy and see what you're drawing into and what you need. So right. No because pets aren't for everybody. Nothing is for everybody but if you're real energy sensitive person it might be a great thing for you. That's a good tap.   [00:41:11] I like that. It's a next question.   [00:41:15] What are the most common struggles you see your clients facing besides the ones that we've already talked about and what's the advice or tips or tricks that you find most help them the foundation whether you know how whether you hate your job whether you have a difficult relationship with your partner or whatever. OK the bottom line is people don't totally know who they are and what goes along with that is not honoring their self capital S so the whole path to a big piece of the path to feeling more whole and happier is first figuring out who am I you know and then honoring that. And again a lot of that can happen in a space of stillness and getting out of. That mind and which is so influenced by outside forces. So pretty much people are looking outside of themselves you know like those that pair of shoes is gonna make me feel happier. Yeah. Two seconds. Well right. Or this eating that hamburger or you know all the stuff or being with this person or having this car or if I make X amount of money or all of that. OK. Yeah. Yeah. I mean to lie and say it does give you some happiness but it's it's a surface type of thing.   [00:43:03] It doesn't Larry it's temporary or fully.   [00:43:05] Yeah right. The true happiness is found like within an if this is simple it's simple. It's honoring your true self and being ok with that and really knowing your true self.   [00:43:20] It sounds so simple but it's a very difficult thing to do because we have so many outside influence and distractions that set us off course. So that's like that is the foundation of everybody I talk to. There's not one person that can't relate to that advice.   [00:43:40] Yeah. And with Spirit showing me when you were talking about that when I see a lot with my clients says this is work. A lot of this is working with a spiritual teacher but when you leave you have to do the work on your own on yourself and nobody else can do that work for you in your day to day life. And what spirit was showing me is so much about finding yourself and knowing who you are is about then following and staying in alignment with who you are. So if that jobs not serving you if that person's not serving you following that because there's so much fear or so much of our self identity wrapped up in these things that we're afraid to actually follow the path of who we are. By releasing these things right exactly right.   [00:44:38] Yeah. Mm hmm. And a lot of our beliefs and fast beliefs about ourselves and what not have been conditioned into us is really small. Small Young people. So again it's not an easy process to really figure out who you truly are.   [00:44:56] But it's a worthwhile process.   [00:45:01] So what is like the step by step one two three process of what you do when you start to feel anxiety or sadness rise up in your body.   [00:45:15] Ok.   [00:45:17] The first thing I do is just lean into it. I accept it and I don't try to push it away because I'm a great believer in going if you try and go around something it's going to take a lot longer to really resolve it and process it and just going right into it. OK. So I. I accept. OK. I don't feel very happy right yet. That's it. OK. Second thing I would do is I would probably just take some time out for me and I would probably just depending on what's going on that day if I have the time to sit down in and just be still for a while that's great.   [00:46:11] If I'm in the middle of a workday it may be a situation where I just have to take a breath and maybe pull up something positive to read or something that makes me happy or picture whatever and just remind myself that the situation does not define me. Another tool I use quite a bit which is super helpful for me is journaling.   [00:46:36] I will. I will write a lot of it out. And here's a thing though. Try to write from your heart space your soul space not your headspace. Don't really think about what you're writing. Just start right then don't think about.   [00:46:50] I find. Yeah exactly. I tell my clients the same thing I tell them to get into a meditative state first so that either really coming from their souls to voice their intuition instead of dread right they keep breathing and breathe. Yes. Breath work. Love it. Yep. So here's another question. You've worked with these big time celebrity mediums some who've been on TV and people the biggest skepticism that I hear from people is. Well they told me something I went to see this person and they told me something and it didn't come true. What do you say to those people.   [00:47:32] Well OK here's here's the thing and Intuit is and I I feel I totally relate to being an intuitive. First of all. You know you've had a great like intuitive reading.   [00:47:54] If you walk away from that session and you think or feel. That's what I thought that's what I thought. OK. So again it's a lot about you already know the answers. It's just like getting through. Like your your ego space of fear and mindset and whatnot.   [00:48:17] But OK no with intuitive.   [00:48:23] First of all nobody can tell you like. The hardest thing with intuiting for people is the timing piece because there's so many things that can change and so many variables and aspects going on in a person's life that can shift the timing and you know linear timing too is just that's such a human contact spirit world you know all to them like 300 years in our IT TO THEM IS LIKE NOTHING.   [00:48:55] It's IT'S A those two concepts don't connect. So things can totally change. So especially with timing. So perhaps perhaps it never comes true. Or perhaps it comes true in a in a long time from now any. What a good intuitive is doing is basically reading the energy of the present situation. OK. So it's like saying this is how I feel it's going.   [00:49:27] Like they can kind of feel into you and the situation and feel like yeah. This feels correct and this is the direction it's going in. Or oh no that doesn't feel right or it feels like that's gonna be an uphill battle or that's pretty much what they're talking about. Yeah I mean I will say sometimes just really odd information well or random information will pop into your head and you know yo you'll give a person that information and yeah it could be true I mean I remember one time I ran into a client I saw a once in a grocery store and she was wanting.   [00:50:09] She came to a session cause she was upset that she was having a lot of problems getting pregnant you know and these are these are tricky issues to work with Reno because that's you know that's up to God.   [00:50:26] So but I don't know.   [00:50:29] Apparently I told her that I felt like that she was actually had had a little baby spirit around her and that she would be having a baby here or getting pregnant and the next I gave her a specific time and everything and I guess it was right and I was like oh my gosh I believe I said that to her even with this type of work like sometimes I will say stuff that really is not of my mindset or ego and that's the great mystery of it.   [00:51:01] Yeah that's true.   [00:51:03] There is a great mystery to how we get information you know. Right. You know we all have hunches on stuff that really you can't totally explain there's no tangible reason for it. There's absolutely. The more I do this work the more I know that I don't know more right.   [00:51:22] That's one thing I know for sure but when we're dealing with them. Exactly.   [00:51:30] Well remove both.   [00:51:32] Oh good. It is that's so hard though because I've had clients like that too. And you do get information from spirit when they want to know something. But we also live in such a legal society that it's scary sometimes from my perspective to actually give that information because for example I had somebody come to me. I think it was last spring and she said you know I'm.   [00:52:02] I think it was seven eight months pregnant. I've been told by three doctors three nurses to actually abort the baby because they believe something's wrong. They believe that there's gonna be major problems. And the this and this woman spiritual team came through and they said there's nothing wrong with the baby. They were showing me her grandfather holding the baby the baby was absolutely fine. And I think that was one of the the times my ego came in the most and said Yeah how do you tell people how do you tell somebody that it's gonna be OK. And the crazy thing is that she came back and she said the baby is completely fine. She had the baby and I the way that it occurred within the session I said you have free will. You really have to make this decision for yourself. But this is what I see. And she came back and she said the baby's completely fine. There's nothing wrong.   [00:53:06] That's what I would have done to like honestly. Again you you know the answers and you have to honor what you feel like there's no body that knows better than yourself but you have to get to that space and really honor it. So but the other type of stuff is very difficult.   [00:53:27] Yeah. So I know for me in my work that spirit has because my ego would come through so much in the beginning. Oh my God Julie you're going crazy. This can't be true. You gotta stop this. Don't tell people this and spirit basically had to knock me over the head time after time after time was just this intense validation because I have always said I just want to be a tool that God can work through. And they've constantly come back and said well this is how we're working through you wake up and how his spirit shown you that validation that what you're hearing the thoughts that are coming to you is not you it is them for me it's not really so much like I thought.   [00:54:21] It's like feeling. It's very subtle. I don't know because this is something I struggle with all the time. For me it's always easier to work with other people than myself.   [00:54:37] Although many things in my life that I've really had a strong feeling about have manifested even though I think a lot of people would have said you're crazy.   [00:54:49] So yeah that's a real hard one. It's an ongoing thing. I just have to really trust what I feel and make sure that my intentions are in China. Right. And just   [00:55:07] It's really subtle and it's it's just really knowing what I'm like trying to to help with with the person and what what serving their greatest good. But honestly what serves people the best is to help them figure it out themselves.   [00:55:31] And of course some kind of get that go away of them.   [00:55:35] I don't really like Yeah I don't really like to do the bulk of my sessions are in silence right. I do not want to give them a ton of my verbiage you know.   [00:55:47] Yeah. Because no matter what you can't get away from some of me is going to come in there. I mean you know again this is for human beings. But you know the whole idea is to help them learn to know what that feeling is and when it's right and when it's not right.   [00:56:05] Right. And when you say that that's kind of where our sessions differ a little bit because you tell me sometimes that I just don't shut up.   [00:56:18] I never thought I'd die. I don't like the are. Yeah.   [00:56:26] So let me ask you this too because I have a lot of clients who come in and when I get into their energy they have had a parent pass or somebody very close pass and they're worried about passing the same way. You know Dad passed of a heart attack. Worrying about passing from a heart attack two of these conditions being passed out. You know there's a lot of moms out there we worry about something happening to our kids. And well my question to you Nancy is have you ever had these deep seeded fears within yourself that don't come true.   [00:57:07] So not all of the fears that we have are gonna manifest a lot of our fears don't manifest especially if we don't focus.   [00:57:14] Yes. So though the work that I give them is overcoming those subconscious thoughts by seeing them self in the future by really living in the daydream of being in the future and what they didn't want to happen not having happened at all laying tools.   [00:57:34] Do you give people to stop manifesting that stuff in their own lives.   [00:57:43] The main thing would be to just live now.   [00:57:47] Like be present because that's really all we have.   [00:57:53] There's no guarantees of even an hour from now. OK so what I'm really about is just acknowledging that the fact of the matter is is that we really don't have much if any control over anything so it's more about managing what is happening in our lives right now.   [00:58:22] And another truth is that nothing stays the same. So everything's going to change.   [00:58:31] You're not united the same person even secularly an hour from now. So there's no being really focused on the future which many people are. That's one of my demons that I fight that creates so much anxiety right. Like just learn to be happy with like what you're happy with right now in this present moment if you can learn to do that then that is going to help you release a lot of fears and the same goes for the past you know. Some of our past is great and some of it's not so great. That's for everybody.   [00:59:14] Yes learn from it but enjoy now.   [00:59:18] That's the main thing that you know one of the things that we've been working on this year together is I've been having sciatic pain and plantar fasciitis that just popped up this summer. I know it's all connected from my hip to my foot. And I know that it's connected to some emotional junk that I'm carrying. I want to talk about how what we experience in our life. We hold in our bodies. How do you see that working. How do you get to the root of the issue and work it out of the body. I know you've had some great tips for me and I just want to share those with our listeners Wow. I mean that's more   [01:00:03] I am of the belief that whatever physically is going on with you there is some there is an emotional energetic base to it. OK. That's my belief Absolutely. A very Eastern type of philosophy. OK so you know pain can manifest in a lot of different ways. And the way I work with it is just I am more   [01:00:33] Work with the overall energetic body vs. I sometimes I will specifically like lay hands on a specific spot that might be hurting somebody.   [01:00:47] But I don't know if that's necessarily better than just doing my thing where I'm at the head and just like sending the energy on through you know it's all about getting the energy moving. I like to compare it to like compare like the ocean to a stagnant stinky pond. You know those are two completely different energy. Presence of energy.   [01:01:17] So that's great. Yeah. I love that one.   [01:01:20] Well you got to keep things moving movements super important in all forms whether it's energetic physical or mental. When we stop moving usually great things don't happen. So just try to keep people moving and as an energy practitioner it's just kind of tapping in and giving them a nudge so that they can heal themselves. I'm just the conduit.   [01:01:49] So one of the things that I've learned that's been I'm going to say a little bit shocking to me is I've never put emphasis in my entire life on flexibility and I know that's the premise of yoga but coming into this over the last four years I've realized that that tightness creates so much pent up energy within our body. It is a you know they have edge and the power of flexibility it's just you can't deny it. And I have I have conversations and I'll be out at parties or out at dinners and people be like oh I don't stretch you know I go work out but I don't stretch and they don't put there like me how I used to be zero emphasis on flexibility but it really helps work so much energy out of our bodies.   [01:02:55] It does but maybe not for everybody. Like there's different things you know. The key is you have to find out what works for you energetic. So like for me I finally embrace that. I hate working out and I hate the gym and you know what. When I finally embrace that guess what I've lost. You know like 28 pounds you know yeah I mean I need to move but my form of it is more either walking or. I love to do movement somatic movement things like that. I mean but obviously the main thing is that eating is right. So but again it's different for everybody everybody. So so just finding out what works.   [01:03:54] I have some rapid fire questions and I want you to give me your intuitive answer some are big big spiritual questions but I want to hear you're short quick. Just what you have to say about them. This one or two words. Oh no. Let's. Yeah. Like a sentence or paragraph couple of sentences or paragraph you know. OK. OK. So here we go. Some rapid fire questions. What is the point of life.   [01:04:26] Why do we come here when there's so much pain the point of life is to to learn to love one another and yourself.   [01:04:37] Perfect. What is the soul the soul is your energetic heart being   [01:04:48] Who you are what you are here to do. It's the core of love.   [01:04:56] I love that if you could only leave your kids with one piece of advice what would it be.   [01:05:03] Oh my gosh it would be be yourself and love yourself.   [01:05:07] Love it.   [01:05:10] Okay. This is just for me. But. Who do you know that I definitely need to interview on this podcast.   [01:05:18] Yeah Mel Doerre. Do you think he would do it.   [01:05:21] Yeah I some I mean go have a session with them. Yeah see if you are in alignment with him. Yeah he's a great guy.   [01:05:30] Well thank you so much Nancy for being on the show. Being on the podcast if anyone wants to get in touch with you. How do they find you.   [01:05:40] Well thank you Julie. It's this it's always fun to talk about this stuff and it makes me think. And then I have to not think so I have to speak from the heart. 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Ready to Positioning Your Business to Profit? Go to-->>> http://positioningtoprofit.com/Patty: Well Madeleine Taylor thank you so much for being on her legacy podcast so appreciate of connecting and I know the first time we had a baby your baby was going to be in guest with that let baby had the baby times. So I'm so happy to have you back.Madeleine: Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it and thanks for being flexible and rescheduling.Patty: Absolutely. As a mom I get it. We were talking about how life would so be there and I don't know how many kids you have by the way.Madeleine: He's my first.Patty: OK. All right. I have two boys and they're teenagers so just looking back at those days I mean I remember really relying on people's understanding and flexibility because it's like every stage is a new situation.Madeleine: And a new challenge.Patty: Oh my God. Well, I don't have baby burp being in the background or me feeding. My kids are like Mom I need you to drop off food at so-and-so is just a whole host of the other issues. Naughtier.OK so were you, Madeleine. We always start with the show with like let's get braggy I'd love to know what do you believe is your superpower.Madeleine: Oh are we talking like business wise or personal.Patty: Whatever you'd like your superpower like that thing that you know that you are just really good at.Madeleine: Oh let's get braggy. OK. Can I list two things?Patty: Absolutely. Have at it.Madeleine: OK. Well, I think something that I have realized that I am very good at is creating children. I have the most wonderful baby in the entire world. I'm with them and I'm so proud of him and I'm proud of myself and my partner for making him. And. Yeah, I think that that is that's a gift.Patty: Awesome.Madeleine: Yeah yeah. So there's that. But I think that I'm also very good at building businesses. Yeah, I've created a business over the last couple of years called content refined.And I think we've had our ups and our downs but I think that it's a pretty solid business and I've put a lot of hard work into you know procedural lies in it and creating systems and a strong foundation for my business. And I think that that is something that I'm pretty good at.Patty: Which is fantastic and I was checking you're your website out content refined or comment. Leave that contentrefined.com and just the success that you had and the fact that they. Whoever they may be invited you to do a talk at a marketing conference in Bangkok Thailand in October 2017 Jean because of the entrepreneurial success.So tell us about how did content refined come to be and why do you believe because at this point how long have you been in business. And I feel like it was a rocket ship to success.Madeleine: Yeah it was pretty quick so at that point it had been; at that point in 2017 hadn't even been a year yet. It had been like ten months yeah. 10 Months.Patty: So what do you think? I mean how did content refined come to be let start there.Madeleine: Right. So content refined came to be because I decided to move from Toronto to a smaller town outside of Toronto called Collinwood.And there wasn't like a whole ton of like job opportunity up here. It's very it's a very small town and unless you really know people and have connections up here you're probably not going to get like a mainstream job up here. They're women.So I sort of had to put my entrepreneur's hat on and make some different connections and I ended up partnering up with a local guy here. And actually working for him originally to sort of create a marketing plan for his own portfolio of websites. So he was really into at the time he was really into you knowing the Amazon affiliate Web site world.Patty: Right.Madeleine: Yeah. So he just wanted to you know procedural lies the content creation for his for his portfolio but sites that he didn't have to really take care of it.So he hired me to do that. And then once we got that system running we kind of wrapped those procedures in a little bow and called at Content refined and. And here we are today.Patty: Interesting. Okay, so I've heard you say procedures and systems now a few times I feel like I'm hearing that that's yours. You're another one of your superpowers right. You just have this ability to make order out of an idea am I caption that correctly.Madeleine: Yeah definitely.Patty: And how did you what other experience or you're bringing is from I guess the prior work that you read into this situation that there just really was opportunistically perfect so that you created this connection with you your business partner and started this amazing business.Madeleine: Yeah great question. So I originally had been working in Toronto at a small startup company so I started there from like the ground up. And I worked my way up to a pretty senior role there within a few years.And so I was exposed to technology for the first time really and Business and Entrepreneurship for the first time because I was working right right in and I was like one of eight. In a new startup business so I was like definitely like an employee of that business.But I was able to see how it worked. And the thing that really stood out to me was like the importance of creating processes and procedures in order to build the business and in order to scale properly.Patty: Right.Madeleine: And so I guess that's why I extracted that tidbit was was you know the importance of an org chart the importance of you know standard operating procedures so that you can really outsource that piece or hire somebody else to do that job so that you can focus on you know business growth initiatives which is what the CEO of my last company was really doing and he was really good at it.So I think that that's where I sort of understood the importance of those things when it comes to business. And so when I came here and started my own thing with with my business partner John that's what was that's what really stood out to me and that's what enabled me to to build this business up to where it is now.Patty: It's fantastic. You've. Have you heard of the book Rocket Fuel?Madeleine: No I haven't.Patty: OK. So you're still reminding me of this book because in rocket fuel he talks about the two critical elements for success and in business as a visionary and an integrator and the integrator as the one that's the genius you know keeps the wheels greased systems processes to make sure that visionary is a distinctly different role in which they're driving the bus to just to say okay here's where we want to take the business strategically.So I feel like hearing what you have in your business plan to refine it off that you know both of those elements were probably the reason that you're so successful. And can we go to the success part of it the fact that you spoke at a conference within one year of being in business? We know the statistics that most small businesses fail certainly within the first year if not the first five years. So what do you think is the reason that you had this exponential success so soon?Madeleine: Well I will give some credit to John my business partner had a really really big like. Following and like a list of contacts. So that was that was strategic. And. And we were really able to launch the service quickly to demographics that I, that we knew was going to be into the service offering.Patty: And how did you know they were being in the service offering because it was a pain point that you had identified in these small business owners.Madeleine: Yeah it was. It was a pain point but it was also like John ran this blog basically called How to Make Money Online. And so all of these people were or wanted to make money online and Content Marketing is like the key to that.Patty: Well that's great. So with content creation being so important can you just speak to people maybe more solopreneurs that they have their small business there? Do you think it applies to everybody even brick and mortar businesses? Occupation strategy.Madeleine: Yeah I definitely think that it's something that everybody who has a Web site or everybody who has a business that relies on you know Google traffic to get business should be doing some sort of online marketing and I might be a little biased because I run a content marketing agencyGrey but I do think content is king and I think that Google changes their algorithms all the time and over and over again we're seeing that they're looking for good quality content and that's what's going to basically rank your site or sink your site if you have crappy shitty content on your site. Google's got to figure that out pretty quickly and you're not going to be rewarded for it.Patty: And what is deemed like crappy like what's crappy as opposed to something that is working really well that so few I mean the difference would be like oh I write my own blog post right. Right. What you guys bring to the table is their expertise's in knowing how the algorithm is changing like can you give some notes of why it's important to potentially outsource this to somebody else.Madeleine: Definitely. So I can speak to it from my own experience actually. So I have my own like affiliate websites as well as like a bit of a side hobby. And at first, what I used to do is I would sort of do it the lazy way and I would essentially just think up of topics off the top of my head but I thought would be good for the website.I would hire a bunch of like really really cheap freelancers not necessarily like native English speakers just like the cheapest I could I could get an article written for I would outsource those articles. I'd get them back. And I'd throw them on onto my website. Wouldn't necessarily really even edit just I and within my instructions I just like wanted them to sort of keyword stuff to the articles and I was just looking for a quick easy cheap solution.And I I sort of sat back and waited and waited and waited and waited for my content to get like to get indexed and stuff and then I got I got a message from Google ads sometimes because I had applied for for Google ads to get put on my site and they said sorry we're like we're not going to grant you access to Google app sense because we don't think that the content on your website is strong. So I was like. OK. So. People are looking and people are definitely monitoring content and it's not about just an abundance of content with a.A ton of keywords stuffed into the text. It's not about that anymore it's about quality. So later down the line when we did like a ton of research on content marketing and and really understood the algorithms and understood what-what Google wanted. We started building content around that. And so when I started applying that to my sites you know it really works required me to actually think about the content actually do a roadmap for like for your website.Strategically do keyword research to see like how many search queries are being searched per month over certain topics. What what are related topics to that key term that you're trying to rank for all of those? Elements that are extremely important. Content marketing before before the content is even written. So there was that piece but then actually getting really strong writers who actually sit down and think about the content that they're writing and obviously these are going to be slightly higher paid writers and people that might even be experts in the field.And then really focusing on like best practices for publishing your content because it's not just about sticking it into the back in the word like Word press and clicking clicking the publish button anymore you know it's about really optimizing content to make sure that that you're really incorporating all of the elements that are important to SEO and important. The Google algorithms into each piece of content.Patty: My gosh it is so involved that I can see how it is. It's not as easy as oh let me just be inspired and write.Madeleine: TotallyPatty: If you're doing it. If you're doing it as a hobby and I think that's a distinction that you're talking about are you doing it for a hobby or are you doing it to get the right eyeballs so that you can continue the conversation.And before we started well before I hit the record button you were talking about a new exciting thing that you're offering in content refined which is a content upgrade which is a reason for what I call a pull strategy for people to engage with you even further.Madeleine: Yes.Patty: We would Love to hear about maybe a case study in a small business owner that was kind of questioning the value and then what you get back to the table what happened as a result to that person jumping.Madeleine: Yeah absolutely. Well, we have we have a ton of case studies So in terms of the content creation case study so we had somebody approached us within the first few months that we actually launched the business and they said hey you know like I have this really awesome domain. There's not a whole a whole lot of traffic but I just bought the site and I want to make a return and then I want to sell the site.So we took a look at it we think and at the time there was like zero traffic. They had like a few articles published they had a really great domain domain name had it it was great and like they really put a great theme on the on the Wordpress site and it looks nice but it just didn't wasn't getting a lot of traffic. So what we did is we came up with a really robust plan.I think he was doing 24000 more words of content a month. So about 24 articles a month. So that's like a pretty aggressive strategy like a very aggressive strategy.And so we are prepared it and then we executed it and within eight months he was able he got. That he was at seventy-two thousand viewers per month on a site and he was able to turn around and sell his site for 150 grand in eight months. Yeah. So that was like crazy inspiring made us feel really good because were like Yes. It just helped to make a boatload of money.So that was that was really great. And then in terms of the content upgrade stuff we had a client come to us and say hey is like hey I have a handful of articles that are on my site that just like aren't performing well anymore but they they really represent like 80 percent of my business and like I can't afford to have these articles slip. So we took them and we gave them like a content upgrade is what we call it.So basically a facelift we like. Added a ton of content to it. So between like 500 and a thousand words of like content gap filling is what I call it. And then we added new links we made it a little little bit more relevant in terms of. Making it like a 2019 article rather than a 2016 article added new elements to them. And then we sort of hit re publish we saw like a 40 percent increase within a week. On his on his traffic, so that was really cool.Patty: So that is something I've never thought about is refreshing or putting a facelift on maybe blog post that might have gotten some traffic. Once upon a time that it can be done again with a service like I have never even heard of that that is so smart.Madeleine: It's honestly so effective because we don't think that you need to sort of rewrite articles on on keywords that you've already targeted like if you've already targeted that just yet upgrade it refresh it.Make it relevant to today because Google's always looking for relevancy. If it's a 2016 article it's not going to get the same kind an attraction as the 2019 article it needs to stay current.It just needs to make like you just need to make sure that your content is still like energized and you're still getting energy sort of around that piece of content and if it's gone slot and if it hasn't been touched in years then circle back and see and pull some data and see like how-how you're ranking where you were ranking a year ago. If those rankings have slept then time to time to refresh.Patty: That is super smart. So then how long have you how long has content refined going around.Madeleine: We've been around for like two and half years now.Patty: That's amazing and where do you see the next three years how big you want to build that site. What's your vision?Madeleine: I would love to. My vision is to. Oh, that's a great question. I would love. To be at a point where we have liked an established presence in our community that we're not only doing stuff online but we're also doing things in in our community for local clients.I would love to see our revenue increase. I'd like to be at around 150 K in like monthly recurring revenue which would be sort of a goal within the next five years. And I would just like content refined to be like unknown content marketing company and for people to have faith in our services. And I want us. To be known as like a quality content service provider.Patty: Now there's some.Madeleine: Yeah there are lots of people who produce content like there are lots of lots of companies out there that produce content. We. Like to differentiate ourselves or ourselves from those other like businesses by really putting an effort into understanding the changes in an online marketing.We pull so many are we yeah we pull together so many data analysis studies on like what are the ranking factors when you're creating content like what do you have to incorporate in your content. Make sure that you're going to rank with certainty.And so we're refreshing those those data analysis says study studies all the time just to make sure that we're incorporating the best practices that are like current best practices.Patty: So out of curiosity if somebody said OK I want to implement a content strategy on my blog site just to keep things currents. The best practice adhering to the best practices what any what is the recommendation like.One blog post a week or is it a month like what would be the minimum that someone will have to do so even be seen as relevant in Google's sizes. And I know that's a loaded question. But you said you know best practices.Madeleine: Yes certainly a lot of question. It totally depends on like what kind of site you're you have if it's like an if it's a personal blog. I would say you know maybe one a week if it's like an affiliate like marketing website I would say like between 12 and 20 articles a month.So it depends on the purpose. I guess if you're looking to you know rank for a huge variety of different keywords in a specific niche then I would hit it with aggression and and really pump that content out. If you're a little bit more specific in terms of in terms of brand and in terms of in terms of what your goals are then I would I would do it. Yeah probably once a week so for tickles a month.Patty: All right. Well OK. And that is obviously something that carbs or refined come up with. Definitely, it could do that because it is you thinking like wow I know that I want to focus on what I'm doing and my business and the writing side of it it's not necessarily something that I love. I would do it but it would just be a labor of loveOh my god, I have to write you know images becomes really cumbersome for me personally it's not natural. And so knowing that that could be altered in a way that represents and is brand with my personality and that whole thing I think that's phenomenal.Madeleine: Yeah.Patty: Gives you the. Ok cool. I'm doing what has it done in order for me to remain consistent irrelevant online. So it just makes so much sense.Madeleine: Definitely. And I think that the way I see it is that yeah for sure you could sit down and write your own content if you wanted. But like how much and like no disrespect to writers writers have like the the one of the hardest jobs for sure.No disrespect to writers but like as an entrepreneur and as like a business owner like how much is your timer's. And you know is it better spent working on other things that are going to grow the business. And yeah just other things that that are more worth your time.Patty: Very well stated. All right. So you've had tremendous success with what you're doing. What do you believe is the reason that you are successful?Madeleine: Honestly and I hope that like other millennials are listening to this. But like hard work and work ethic, there's a man that has been drilled into me since I was a kid and I think that unfortunately. I have come I'm a millennial and I've come across many others and work ethic just isn't something that's like emphasized and I don't think in our upbringing.And it has been a huge source of frustration in terms of hiring in terms of in terms of running a business where you rely on. Millennials to sort of run things smoothly. But yes work ethic work hard. If you work hard you can play hard. And and I think that yeah work ethic. MAN.Patty: Yeah and paint a picture of your dad and your mom. Yeah. Own a business. How do you? Because I don't believe that there's real balance but how do you maneuver it all.Madeleine: Yeah so I have taken the last well from June to January. I took a lot of time off my business and dedicated at that time to my new little human. And I thought that was really important. And I really wanted to be able to do that. And I'm very happy that I did.But now he's a little bit older. He goes to daycare three days a week. And so I'm in the office three days a week. But then on the other four days, I find time to make it work. Without it, it's really hard to to. It's really hard to be in a position where you know that if you're focusing too much on your business then you're maybe neglecting your baby a little bit.But if you're neglecting. But then yeah it's like you don't want. You don't want to be in a position where you have to sacrifice one or the other. So finding the balance is really challenging. But we make it work you know like if if I have to work six hours after he goes to bedtime or after bedtime then that's what I'll do. You know if I if I have to squeeze in work while he's napping in them that's what I'll do. You know and I think just setting your priorities straight. You know I think you can probably really sympathize with this.But like when you have a small baby at home and other things start to pile up like dishes and laundry and all that stuff and that to do list for me either get outsourced. So like I hired a cleaning lady. That's what I need to do. You know and. And. Yeah. So that's how I sort of prioritize things I really outsource what I can and and focus on the really important things which are first my baby and second my business.Patty: I love that I love it and it's so true. It's a prioritization and then really looking at the tasks and the things that you're doing and outsourcing them which I think I don't know some women I was completely AFAM.I'm like I'm sure you would be superwoman and then what happens is adrenal fatigue happens you know totally like you're trying to do it all and it just doesn't make sense.So keeping an inventory of the things that you do and saying can be outsourced probably for 15 or 20 bucks an hour. And then that way I am more focused on spending the time with my family or going to love my husband. The fact is we have the luxury to make and create our own schedules which is such a luxury.Madeleine: Such a luxury.Patty: In the corporate world. You know it was like working on you know on the clock and asking for permission to go on vacation is so crazy now thinking about it. And so with that luxury, you still have to have a schedule like you have to.It's really interesting because some people and I'm going back to your hard work ethic comment. Yeah. Some people think I'm out of work for myself and then they're going to yoga and they're hanging out with friends that going to lunch and it's like OK.Madeleine: I wish.Patty: You're now working right. You really have to keep inventory and had this discipline.Madeleine: Yeah.Patty: Working really consistent and honoring that Company because it's your own business you know if you're slacking you're not slacking at the job your slackingYou know in your own business it's just hurting you definitely it doesn't really understand where you're coming from with that comment.Madeleine: And you know what. I'm not going to I'm not going to lie. I struggled with it hard when we were first like launching the business because I got into this like vicious vicious cycle where I put like dollar signs on every single thing I did because my time represented my income.And so that drove me honestly within the first year to be probably a workaholic and it wasn't healthy and I needed to sort of find some find a better balance and I worked hard on doing that. But it got to a point where like going to the gym for me is something I've always loved doing and then it's just like part of my life.And during that year it would stress me out when I was at the gym because I was like oh my god this is like two hours of my time. How much money is that worth? You know it's always been like really analytical about it. And it wasn't probably healthy and it was definitely like an obsessive-compulsive thing for sure you get for my mental health.But I think recognizing that taking a step back and and being able to to realize that that was happening was important. And then you know work to sort of rebalancing that was important.Patty: I think that's a really healthy assessment. I went through the same day where I just branched off on my own after being a business partnership and like I have to work twice as hard. Not necessarily. I really let go of the self-care aspect and that's so crazy because you have to focus on self-care first in order to bring the right kind of energy and focus into your day.I'm not a millennial I'm a Gen X ers so it even more so because it's like the focus goes by the wayside if I don't take care of the self-care anyway. It's a whole balancing act and the thing is is that one of the things I see is the habits and the discipline and consistency versus thinking you have to like grind grind grind really hard to get really fastening of that.It's a nuanced shift at least for me where I'm starting now I'm starting I really made a commitment to just kind of re-engineer my day reengineer like compartmentalizing my calls compartmentalizing my free time really honoring that I'm not going to take calls on on Saturday and Sunday right. Send me a Baxter it'll be ok like this. Yeah. I am not calling If I don't answer the Baxter ten minutes after it's somebody send a box like its.Madeleine: Totally.Patty: But you have to literally be about like what am I doing is just burning me out. And what is a return on your energy? That's the way I see it now where it's been really really helpful.Madeleine: One hundred percent 100 percent. And I think that like all of these apps that are meant to be like really helpful and useful in breaking down like can be communication barriers like like Slack and all those things likeI had just delete slack off my phone because I was like my clients cannot have access to me at 2:00 in the morning. Like that's just not OK anymore. And so so yeah establishing barriers and boundaries and stuff is really important or else you're going to work yourself.Patty: Exactly what. True that.Madeleine: Yeah.Patty: All right. So a couple more questions. What is a personal development or growth habit that you have?Madeleine: Ooh personal development or growth habit that I have. That's a great question. Let me think about this one. Oh. Research. I do a ton of research all the time and it's something that I enjoy doing because I like learning. But it also allows me to apply my new knowledge to my business. And so I I really like doing research.So right now I'm doing research on like paid traffic for like paid paid advertising online. That's something that we haven't really dipped our toes much into because we haven't really needed to but now we are getting to a point in the business where we should probably start doing that because most businesses do. And so, of course, I'm going to hire somebody to do it for us. But I want to understand it a little bit first. And I want to understand it enough to hire the right person so that I think is is my my business or my development personal development habit. I guess it's more of a professional.Patty: It's a growth habit.Madeleine: Yeah.Patty: Like you're thinking ahead in terms of OK what do we need or what other talents you need to bring in. And so you're learning and deep diving so nobody can tell you oh you should look for that because I know I'm going to learn enough to be dangerous and how to make the right decision for my business.Madeleine: Exactly exactly.Patty: Totally.Madeleine: So I don't need to know exactly how to do it myself. Like if I buy played with it long enough I'm sure I'd figure it out. But I want to know enough exactly to equip myself to make the best decisions for the business.Patty: Fantastic. All right Madeleine, after all, is said and done what do you want your legacy to be.Madeleine: Oh my legacy. That's a great question. So basically if when I die what do I want people to remember me.Patty: It's an interesting question because when I ask a Gen Xer a baby boomer they're like my legacy could it when I've asked somebody who was in their 30's or late 20's. It's a very different answer. So I'm really curious. Yeah like coming from a millennial lens what were you thinking about legacy?Madeleine: I would love. For my children to remember me. As. a badass fun mom who did everything with them. Who is there, there are soccer games. Who is there? You know they're like dance recitals. Who is the present? I want them to remember that I want to be so present in their lives. And I also want them to remember me as a badass businesswoman and I want them to. Inherit greatness from this business.Patty: Beautiful. And so it will be Madeleine. Taylor thank you so much. How did people find out more about content refined how to connect with your business if they are looking for content.Madeleine: Yes.Patty: For their own business.Madeleine: Yeah for sure. So people can either email me directly at Maddie MADDIE maddie@contentrefined.com or they can go to www.contentrefined.com. To check out more about our services. And what we do or. If you are not at the point where you want to outsource content and but you just want like know how to write really great content.I actually have a page it's a podcast special page where you can go in and put in the code the code is PODCAST all in caps and you can actually download our article write in SOP's. So those are a gift to you guys. If that's the direction you want to go or if you want to check out any of our or try out any of our packages. You can get 20 percent off month one in put in a podcast as your coupon code on upon check out.Patty: Oh fantastic. OK, so this will be shown up so you're not going to miss any day and how to connect with Madeleine or maddie@contentrefined.com and then the generous 20 percent off which just fantastic.So thank you so much for being on her legacy her it's truly been an honor. I love what you're doing and I think it's absolutely super. It's just awesome.Madeleine: Thank you so much. Thanks for having me. It's been a pleasure.Madeleine Taylor (madeleine.taylor.009@gmail.com),Website: www.contentrefined.com,We can offer your listeners 20% off of their first month when they sign up for a monthly content creation package.We can also offer them our downloadable SOPs for how to systematize content creation.,Social Media Handles: Facebook.com/contentrefinedInstagram.com/contentrefined,Email - maddie@contentrefined.comThey can book a call with me - https://contentrefinedmt.youcanbook.me/,

Well OK here is the last part of songs from 70-71 music from primarily the spring & summer of 71. So if you lived or remember that period of 1971 you will really N'Joy this show. Intro: Boys & Girls-The Archies 1. Another Day Like heaven-The Flame 2. Toast and Marmalade For Tea-Tin Tin 3. I Don't Blame You At All-The Miracles 4. Temptation Eyes-The Grassroots 5. The Drum-Bobby Sherman 6. Apeman-The Kinks 7. Love, Angles, Circles & Lines-The 5th Dimension 8. Lowdown-Chicago 9. Sweet & Innocent-Donny Osmond 10. Sooner Or Later-The Grassroots 11. Lire-3 Dog Night 12. Gypsy Woman-Bryan Hyland 13. Want Adds-The Honeycone 14. Mighty Clouds Of Joy-B.J. Thomas 15. Rings-Cymaron 16. Chicago-Graham Nash 17. Can't Find The Time-Rose Colored Glasses 18. Here Comes That Rainy Day Feeling Again-The Fortunes 19. Double Barrel-Dave & Ansel Collins 20. She Didn't Do Magic-Lobo 21. Go Down Gamblin'-Blood, Sweat & Tears 22. Spanish Harlem-Aretha Franklin 23. Give Up Your Guns-The Bouys 24. Melody-Bobby Darin 25. Slowdown-Crow 26. Maybe Tomorrow-Jackson 5

A wise man once said laughter is the shortest distance between two people. Well, there's no shortage of laughter in this episode with Jacob Weiss, who's the director of High-Wired communities and entertainment that gives back. Listen to the podcast and find out why laughter is the best medicine on Get Social Health.     Janet:                                00:00                   A wise man once said laughter is the shortest distance between two people. Well, there's no shortage of laughter in this episode with Jacob Weiss, who's the director of High-Wired communities and entertainment that gives back. Listen to the podcast and find out why laughter is the best medicine on Get Social Health. Announcer:                      00:21                   Welcome to Get Social Health, a conversation about social media and how it's being used to help hospitals, social practices, health care practitioners, and patients connect and engage via social media. Get Social Health brings you conversations with professionals actively working in the field and provides real-life examples of healthcare social media in action. Here is your host, Janet Kennedy. Janet:                                00:47                   Welcome to the Get Social Health podcast. Today I have somebody who is going to help me solve some personal problems and that is Dr. Jacob Weiss. Janet:                                00:56                   He is a researcher and a social entrepreneur and he's going to be speaking at the annual conference of the Mayo Clinic social media network that's coming up November 14th and 15th in Jacksonville Florida. His topic is how juggling taught me to engage my community for health and well-being. Well I have to tell you I'm having a lot of trouble juggling and also juggling and engaging my community. So this is going to be a very valuable session for me. Welcome to Get Social Health Jacob! Jacob:                                01:28                   Thanks thanks for having me. Janet:                                01:30                   I was flabbergasted when I saw that we were going to have a person with expertise in juggling at the annual conference of the Mayo Clinic social media network and I'm thrilled because I actually have a cousin who is a professional mime, clown, and she has awesome juggling skills. So that is amazing. Jacob:                                01:52                   Yeah it is. It's going to be a lot of fun for a lot of people don't realize the connections you can make and the AHA moments you get when you bring in something that's a different industry. But where there is a really positive connection that you can make, and building bridges across. Janet:                                02:08                   Absolutely. And I think some of this has to do with when you send people particularly to a conference or an event where they're expecting the same old same old. And you throw them for a loop. They've got to kind of think differently. Jacob:                                02:24                   One of the things I love about juggling is it's that physical getting up and moving it's visual it's it's not another PowerPoint slide for example and it and so if you're trying to convey a message or teach or share knowledge you can't just share the content you have to do in a way that keeps them awake. That makes them engage in a way that it's really sticky that they can remember back to it when they want to use it. So that's one of the powerful ways that we use juggling as part of sharing content and real knowledge as well. Janet:                                02:57                   All right wait a minute I'm very easily distracted as you'll probably discover in this podcast interview. However, I'm envisioning you being up there and juggling three to five balls and all this awesome stuff is going and your and you're imparting words of wisdom. Janet:                                03:11                   I gotta tell you I'm going to be totally focused on your juggling skills and I'm not going to be listening. Jacob:                                03:16                   Fair enough. And I will give you a preview that most of the time that there's talking. It's not at the same time as the juggling so that the juggling will make you can enjoy it and have fun with it and then we use the other parts following before and after to connect when there's a metaphor or sharing a story of what I've done with juggling and community and building healthy communities using both juggling and social media. So it's it's not the distracting part it's the get you focus then you can listen. Janet:                                03:51                   Well now folks know me as a social media early adopter and somebody who uses it probably to the point where they like Janet you need to take the day off. But I'm trying to put together my idea of social media and juggling. Well, the first thing of course is that's all social media is I am I am bouncing from one thing to another trying to keep all my content up in the air respond to things like there's a perfect metaphor for there. But what you're actually saying this is a physical metaphor as well. Jacob:                                04:22                   There's the metaphor of keeping the balls in the air. And one of the things I talk a lot about is you know it's a marathon not a sprint when you're learning to juggle. You don't drop a ball and give up in two minutes and say I can't do it. Same thing with social media. You're getting started on that whether it's a new career path or a new project with social media. You don't just try something and say Oh did it work. I'm quitting it. It's really that long-term goal and process which is the same as learning to juggle. So you've got those metaphors. But there's also a real physical mindset shift that you can make a connection to while you're actually physically learning to juggle. And so it's not just a conceptual metaphor but it's a physical experience that you can go through that that you can make connections to when you're working on those other areas of your life or work. Janet:                                05:19                   All right let me ask you something and maybe this is why I'm not very good at juggling and I can't get past five passes the ball is because I'm always thinking about the ball's going to land here the ball's going to land here and the ball's going to land here as often we do and work of I'm going to do this again to do this again this which means everything just becomes a blur. Am I doing juggling wrong? Jacob:                                05:41                   I would say you're doing juggling wrong a lot of ways if you can. One of the ways we teach for example when we're really teaching getting past the first couple of throws is to stand over a table or a desk and let those next. Those that you're trying to get to hit the ground right it lands on the table. Then you have infinite time to make the next throws after that's already landed on the ground. And it also helps you get past worrying about the drops and really focusing on that. So it's it's like with work when you're working on social media or any really any work or or project it's its focus on what you can be getting done now not worrying about the next drop that could happen and end. And then you get to that as it comes. And so it's juggling it really is almost like a yoga or meditation is that sense of flow. You have a feeling of when it clicks in. Janet:                                06:39                   I will say the other part of the metaphor that I really like that a lot of clients or big companies or even healthcare organizations have to grasp is that you're going to drop a ball and in social media, you're going to spell something wrong. You're going to have a link that didn't work that you've got to repost because when you think about the volume of what you're putting out and the speed at which you're putting it putting out if your social media is all 100 percent planned vetted reviewed edited and signed off on it's boring. You know that's like picking the ball up and then picking the ball up and then picking the ball up as opposed to ball hand, ball, hand, ball. Jacob:                                07:16                   Exactly along the lines of what you said in terms of that's boring people connect on social media. It's not a press release. Right. It's that you're connecting you're having real conversations with real people. And same thing when you watch juggling. I often when I teach other performers they're not watching the balls in the air they're watching you having fun with the juggling onstage and it's the same with social media. It's not just the announcement here announcement their content they're engaging with you and your personality and that has to shine through in a genuine way. Again it's the same thing if you're performing on stage five hundred people as if you're have five hundred dollars on social media that you're engaging with. It really just has to come from a genuine place from you not just what is the content that you're share. Janet:                                08:07                   You know I can talk about juggling forever but at some point people are going to wonder why are we bringing a juggler to this conference and actually you get some letters after your name and you have some established academic credibility to this work you're doing so tell us a little bit about your background and how you managed to bring this childhood love of something all the way through your academic career. Jacob:                                08:30                   Sure. Apart from being a juggler since I was about 10 years old I went to Princeton University for my undergraduate and I was focused on computer science engineering where in addition to developing computer-controlled juggling musical instruments that I've played while juggling with sensors I also developed in the pre-Facebook days Facebook-type friends list connecting sharing kind of building between aim AOL Instant Messenger and Facebook world and of bridging the gap and working on projects and developing concepts from that from the computer science and I then went from there to Vanderbilt University. I did my Ph.D. in biomedical informatics where I was taking a lot of that approach to social networking and the healthcare focus. And when I got there it was there was a really strong emphasis not just on the medical record as in information repository but the medical record as a communication medium between the doctors and the patients and the nurses and everyone involved and so that really was a powerful connection to what I was excited about and that was a time when a lot of things were you know how do we email doctors not even considering anything social media. Jacob:                                09:53                   And so a lot of my research was you know in the first iPhone came out. We were developing projects around medication management for kids using the early iPhone before you could even make official apps for it. And so all of my research has really been about how do you connect people online but offline as well. Jacob:                                10:16                   So a big part of my focus and from that world is not just thinking about social media as something in it by itself it's something that can also enhance and complement real-world relationships. Right. So if you can have patients all around the world talking. And that's an important part of social media. But you can also use social media to coordinate emphasis with conversations that also happen in the real world. Whether it's between the patient and the care team whether it's in a local support group or which a lot of my work was looking at all of the different nonprofits working in health care in the local community who are very siloed and disconnected. Jacob:                                11:02                   How do you find ways to create more connection between them and so did you immediately go into founding your own company or did you work in that traditional bioinformatics program somewhere. Jacob:                                11:16                   Yeah it was it was pretty much right from my Ph.D. starting my own thing in part because I had continued while I was at Princeton I started up the student juggling shows on campus while doing my research. And when I got to Vanderbyl I started up the juggling group and shows on campus there. So I'd always been doing a combination of starting up juggling programs and creating social networking for community building and health care. And so there was no one job that equally considered both of them. There might have been one or the other and they said oh yeah you can do that little stuff you do on the side with you can't do this while doing that. And so. So it really wasn't it wasn't something that I really purposely went into. It's just continuing what I've always been doing really organically growing and so just kept going and applying a lot of my research work more on consulting or project-based work and then starting up a touring juggling performing company. Jacob:                                12:23                   At the same time that's a social enterprise. So we use that juggling and just like my research to create connections between nonprofits between companies and local nonprofits. And so it I sometimes describe even from the juggling side and doing more in line with my research than if I stayed in the field in academia doing what most informatics is focused on. Because my research really was combining the informatics work with community based participatory research models ethnography. How do you bring together a local community for collaborative design of an online space so it wasn't just how do we use the online space to us? How do you bring people together to collaboratively design an online space people who aren't social media experts or designers? And how do you make it something that from participating they learn at the same time and can go back to their organizations and enhance the work they're doing online themselves. Have you actually published your dissertation part, not the full dissertation? However many of these are papers but papers out of it. For sure. Janet:                                13:38                   Okay. And is the word gentling used in near doctoral dissertation? Jacob:                                13:42                   Well I don't think I have to think I don't think the word juggling ever specifically appears but I will say several of the conferences where I presented that for informatics there was juggling involved in those presentations and in my dissertation defense I believe there was juggling involved. Janet:                                14:02                   Oh wow okay. So my the really big question is does your mother say my son the juggler or my son the doctor? Jacob:                                14:11                   I would say sure. It depends on the context. I think mostly she'll say my son the juggling doctor but she actually works in medical informatics as well. That's what got me introduced I'm interested in that field. And so she gets that part of it. But she also has been around since I was a kid so she knows the other half from the juggling side. And again it's from the outside it seems very different. But if you think about it what I'm doing with everything I do is bringing people together and finding ways to connect with people and connect people to one another. And there's a quote I like that came from Victor Borge - Janet:                                14:58                   I love Victor Borge! Jacob:                                15:00                   And it's "laughter is the shortest distance between two people." And that applies to what we do with our juggling performances and the outreach we do when we go to children's hospitals and in the community. And it also applies to social media and making real genuine connections on social media. It applies to what we're doing in the community and building real relationships when you facilitate conversations in a community. And so I don't think it's anything that's completely different. They're both two parts of that same mission of bringing people together. Janet:                                15:39                   When I look at your LinkedIn profile I see that you actually have five concurrent jobs a year there from X to present. So. Oh my gosh, what exactly do you do for a living? Jacob:                                15:52                   So again the concurrent it's all part of all of the pieces that you see on LinkedIn where they're all the different pieces and programs that we're doing with the companies that I started. So technically there's two company the informatics social media community building consulting and the other is the juggling performance side. But a lot of it weaves together in different ways. And so for example one of the programs that we're doing that we just launched this past year it builds on what we've been doing with our touring performances and outreach and just really quick with that the model as a social enterprise it's kind of like that Toms Shoes model if you know where every pair of shoes you buy they donate a pair of shoes to a child in need with our live performing. Every time our show is brought in to a corporate event we donate a visit to a non-profit in the community and we just launched a program that not just it's not just our visit out in the community that's really and we see the impact it makes but we're able to donate excess of juggling balls as well to the different programs because again the juggling it's the fun as the play. Jacob:                                17:06                   But it also helps people connect with the mindset going from an I can't do this mindset to oh I can do this. We have a path to success. A message that says try drop, try drop, try drop, over and over down the page. Pause. Breathe. Try. It will succeed. And when people learn to juggle they can connect to that mindset and apply it to other things that they're doing. So that's the that's what do good and juggle is. But all of them are part of the kind of core companies that I've started. Janet:                                17:48                   So what kind of companies are bringing you in, and do they know what they're getting ahead of time? Jacob:                                17:54                   Oh yeah, well some companies will bring us in for the entertainment and then as a talking and they realize that I have my Ph.D. in healthcare and technology and also are giving back elements. Then we start talking even more about that piece and then some people are looking more for the community building consulting or corporate training or leadership. I teach a course on community engagement and leadership and end up bringing the juggling and improv comedy techniques and storytelling into that process of the class there and so sometimes people come from one direction and get the other and then it can be flipped depending on who the client is. But we did we do kickoff for a large healthcare companies technology companies conferences and we've been to the White House Madison Square Garden. So from the performing end we do that side and then from the training side we've worked with a lot of some of the major marketing companies, for example, brought us to work with their teams as well as incorporate giving back elements so sometimes companies will bring us in when they're trying to do something that gives back. But there's also a team building or fund program for their employees as well. Janet:                                19:12                   Oh that sounds like a lot of fun when you were telling me before we started the interview what your schedule is like over the period where the conference is going on. I was sort of mind boggled. You have to have somebody who says Not today if it's Tuesday it must be Belgium. Jacob:                                19:30                   Right. So yeah we've got at least three possibly four. If I do something locally in Nashville that just came in that week. So basically from Sunday Sunday three different cities which is not always that crazy but it definitely can get a little hectic with that. Janet:                                19:47                   Now what exactly is an entertainment? What is your show like? I mean no lions no tigers no trapeze. So what exactly are you doing? Is it a circus event? Jacob:                                19:59                   So at the conference, I'll be I'll be doing some incorporating some of the performance acts from our touring show and more so doing a lot of talking and making that connection to social media and healthcare and community building with our touring show. We also do that by itself where it's an hour to 75 minutes no speaking. It's a three-person show sometimes. And people have compared it almost to Blue Man Group without the crazy makeup. If that makes sense. It's no speaking it's got a lot of musical elements juggling physical comedy but really it's just the three of us having fun onstage together and sharing that with the audience Dave juggles fire. We don't juggle fire in the show. I can and have but are are most of what I do with the performing it's more about the creativity and the teamwork than it is about the danger elements. Janet:                                20:56                   All right. This is going to be so exciting and it's really going to catch people by surprise. I think this is going to be a great event. Janet:                                21:04                   And I know that it sounds like you're doing some really amazing things when you go to say do a corporate event you've got this pay it forward model where you're doing something is it hospital visits are you doing fundraising shows? Jacob:                                21:20                   Some of it's been more into the fundraising style. Most of it is more going out into the community like to the hospital and visiting with the patients doing a show in the lobby for the patients and the families and the staff even which I think that's an important part of wellness for the caregivers and the staff and ignoring that element. And so we'll do that we'll go out into a local school for example. And and so just giving you an example sometimes that if the client really wants to plan a big event that ties into a charity that they're trying to support then we end up doing that if that's what their interest is. But sometimes it might be just visiting, for example, local Ronald McDonald House and there is an example of an event we did. And we went. We went to the local Ronald McDonald House and it was pouring outside. Jacob:                                22:18                   And so most of the families were stuck in the hospital and couldn't get back to the house. But there was one family. It was the husband and wife whose child was in the hospital but they couldn't get there because of the rain. And so we ended up just doing a short show in the living room for that couple and taught them to juggle. And it wasn't what we planned in terms of how many people were going to be there. But on the way out and we were leaving and the house manager told us that was exactly what they needed at that time. And so we've had other people with our outreach describe how they haven't left together as a family and over a year and that this was a way that they were able to do that and connect us especially if they were in the hospital or dealing with a challenge like that. Jacob:                                23:10                   So so that's our outreach. It really can be tied into the client wants to focus on health care education and we'll work with them. But we just see the power and impact that it makes. And that's something that came from my work. The first outreach we did was working with a lot of the Cancer Support Programs Gilda's Club here in Nashville is an amazing program and we've worked with them. And I got to know them from when I was doing my research and working with the cancer center at Vanderbilt. And so we've found ways to do programs for them. And so most of it's less about the fundraiser elements and more about really making that personal impact with the families who need it. Janet:                                23:57                   I love all of this and I love the fact that you're maybe the first person I've ever spoken to that had a passion as a child that they have been able to carry through their whole adult life and into their career. That's awesome and cool. Jacob:                                24:12                   And I will say it was not planned. If you asked me when I was doing my Ph.D. and doing this student shows at the same time if I plan to be a professional juggler in any way and I wouldn't have said so. Actually, when I first got to Princeton I had no interest in performing I was just juggling I didn't think I had time for it. And then it just gradually evolved. And so it's it's been very organic and not scripted in and how I want to incorporate it and that I've always dreamed of being a professional juggler since I was a kid. But it's been something that's been a solid foundation and core to everything I'm doing. Janet:                                24:53                   All right so where do you go for professional development? Jacob:                                24:56                   You know some of the people that I work with for example who do storytelling and storytelling as a way to see different ways to think about things whether it's strategy or opening up connections. And so those kinds of those partners that I work with but also learn from at the same time there's a lot of people that I look up to both from that and then there are people whether it's in the fitness industry and they share advice and messaging around for example. You know trust the process which is a message around their fitness but it's also a message for careers my career for what we're doing with how we teach the juggling. Jacob:                                25:41                   There's a lot because it's the typical industry where you go and take a professional development community building and juggling and healthcare technology all woven together. I kind of get it piece by piece. I do a lot of reading and listening to podcasts and following people look up to from that an awesome. Janet:                                26:01                   Well OK. Is there a great circus podcast you'd recommend? Jacob:                                26:05                   I don't follow too much circus podcasts. I would say more from I would say the marketing. There's a lot of videos that you know keep up with people posting videos from the circus and juggling side through Facebook and you know that network and I follow more of the marketing podcasts and healthcare and those side of things as well. Janet:                                26:29                   Now you've got to have a guilty pleasure podcast. So is it serial killers or True Crime or history? Jacob:                                26:37                   No I don't. I haven't really gotten into that side of podcasts listening although I would say that part of everything in terms of what I do free-time wise my wife and I have our 21-month-old at home. So everything's been a blur for the past few years now. Janet:                                26:57                   I can't imagine. All right so just so you know this is a parent tip here when your child is 22 months old. Measure them double their height and that's how tall they'll be as an adult. Jacob:                                27:08                   Interesting. Janet:                                27:09                   Not 24 months. Jacob:                                27:10                   I will look at that. I will look at that. Janet:                                27:13                   I did that for my son and lo and behold he did grow up to be 6 feet 4 inches tall. So. Jacob:                                27:19                   Well my wife's mother is six feet tall and so maybe our daughter will get that side of the family but who knows. Janet:                                27:26                   There you go. Well I am so looking forward to meeting you in Jacksonville and a hearing watching and sounds like actively participating in your program. It's going to be a great event. Jacob:                                27:40                   And I'm going to have a lot of fun. And look forward to seeing everyone there and always feel free whether you see me at the conference to come up and say hi and mine. Always happy to connect and look forward to meeting everyone. Janet:                                27:54                   That's going to be a blast. All right I'll bring my own juggling balls and I will see you in a few months at the Mayo Clinic annual conference of the social media network. It's taking place November 14th and 15th on the Mayo campus in Jacksonville Florida. If you happen to be new to social media and or health care there's also an all day program on the 13th which is called the social media residency. So you can really get up to speed no matter whether you came from the journalism marketing side of the house and need to learn healthcare or you come from the healthcare side of the house and you're not that experienced with marketing and social media. That is a great intensive daylong session that you will walk away from with practical and tactical ways to manage your own social media. So I encourage you to look into that as well. Social media dot Mayo Clinic dot org is the place to find this information. Again Jacob thank you so much for joining me and I look forward to seeing you soon. Jacob:                                28:52                   Thank you. Announcer:                      28:52                   And now here's a social media success tip. Lee Aase:                          28:57                   Hi this is Lee Aase. I'm the director of the Mayo Clinic social media network and happy to share one of my favorite tips and that is to don't overcomplicate things. I know that in some of the early days with the flip camera many of the complaints that people had was an audio quality. And so they would often look for a camera that could have an external microphone and that would sometimes complicate things to the point where they didn't shoot the video that they could otherwise abused. So one of the rules that I live by is that you can't edit what you don't shoot. Wow, I agree it's great to get external microphones. I'd be focusing on some of the shotgun ones the ones that can attach to a bracket with the iPhone or Android phone but not to get overly complicated. Look at what you can do in terms of natural light as well as finding a good quiet place to do the interview so that you don't get hindered from actually shooting the video. That could be really helpful for your communications purposes. Announcer:                      30:07                   You've been listening to the Get Social Health podcast. The show notes are located at getsocialhealth.com. To join our healthcare social media journey, follow @getsocialhealth on Twitter and start a conversation. Janet:                                30:22                   Thanks for listening to the Get Social Health podcast, a production of the Healthcare Marketing Network. And a proud member of the Healthcare Podcasters Community. I'd like to take a moment and tell you a bit about the Healthcare Marketing Network. We're a community of freelance healthcare writers. Our organization can match your company or healthcare practice with clinically accurate, specialized, or general health care and medical content, from blogs to white papers to CME, the Healthcare Marketing Network has the writers you need to reach your business audience or patients. To find out more visit healthcaremarketingnetwork.com or contact me via social media or email at janet@healthcaremarketingnetwork.com. Thanks for listening to the Get Social Health podcast.

Your Spider Sense isn't failing you, it's another web-slinging edition of The GameCola Podcast! Well OK, we don't usually sling any webs, but we're an internet podcast which you could call a web podcast, and we swing it into your ears? Look man, I'm doing my best here. Let's hope that John Rizzi, Joseph Martin, and newcomer Dan Conlin can provide even better witty banter as they discuss such topics as... - N1RV Ann-A—a sequel to VA-11 Hall-A—was recently announced - Luigi's Mansion 3 and Animal Crossing are highlighted in the latest Nintendo Direct - John has a lot to say about Marvel's Spider-Man - I mean a lot - What defines the new "Arkham" trend of games? - Nintendo's physical shortages and its popularization of traditionally non-western franchises - The Mega Man 11 demo is pretty dang sweet my dude - Videogames have been played recently by us, which? [Podcast Intro/Outro “5 is Average” by Meteo Xavier]

Well OK. I know it's bigger than I promised and way too big to wrap and I know it won't fit under the tree but, HERE. This is for YOU. With my Love...and Respect. DOWNHOME XMAS CORNER 2.0 It's Downhome Corner's second Xmas podcast Great Xmas songs chosen by Fred Durette and me. And we've taken time to pick some really cool, fun and toe tappin' tunes! Fred and I will share Xmas stories from back home and Downhomers will tell theirs from around the world! Brenda Best in Nashville shares a warm Xmas memory from her days growing up in Campbellton (and I will share one about her). Marc Lavoie joins us from Hillside, Holly Wright from Dartmouth, and Melody Bryant Krantz a Downhomer living in Sweden! (no donairs there). Plus since I couldn't choose between 2 of Brenda Best's songs-I'll play both of them. There's a tribute to the late, great John Dunsworth. He's even on one of the songs we play. You can listen to it anytime you like (and over and over) at downhomecorner.com or on our Facebook Page. (please like us if you haven't yet because we like you) I'm excited for you to hear it. So please, please share it so we connect with more Downhomers for Xmas. Thanks and Merry Xmas, Steve Bujold PS: Listen all the way to the end for a surprise visit from the mayor of Campbellton Stephanie Anglehart Paulin!!! (Damn, I spoiled the surprise)

Scott Hansen Shares with us today about reigniting your passion. Some great tactics and strategies. To move us from the ho hum of our lives back to the passion of why we started our journey. Scott really wants to help the entrepreneur the business owner move to what he calls turn the lights back on in their business to help them get to the next level of success because we only get this thing called life once there are no redo’s in life. Why not become the best version of yourself in order to do that and have the kind of business or have the kind of life that you truly, truly want. Being passionate with your passion, lot of guys you know they get into the normal everyday stuff and they forget I think you'd probably say they forgot about that why they just do the things they do. They forget about the why. How do you get re inspired, how do you get re motivated if you're going through life and it feels like Groundhog Day sometimes. I would suggest to anybody that feels like their challenged they're stuck or they have plateaued. Getting reinvigorated this is going to be an interesting answer but let’s go with just two answers. Find something outside of work find something outside of work that inspires you. Why, a lot of times Groundhog Day does kick in you get up the same time you have the same breakfast you see the same people you do the same type of business you leave work at the same time you take the same way home you eat the same dares the same three to five dinners and then you watch the same T.V programs. And then you do it all over again kind of sort of all the time. Change it up, go join something, go do something else outside of your norm I don't care what it is if it's going to join a book club if it's going to you know go to a different gym if it's going to take a different path during your running whatever it is do something anything that's different that's outside of your comfort zone. Set bigger goals. Now that sounds obvious Well OK if I want to have a million dollars revenue let's go for ten million dollars. If you really want to get reinvigorated again is not only set a goal but goal set a maybe even a materialistic goal So for example let's say you're driving a Camry, maybe a stretch for you is a Lexus. Set some huge massive goal that at the end of that carrot stick is something that you can actually tangibly touch maybe it's a trip with your family maybe it's a new car for yourself. The reason why we're not inspired by our goals is because we set goal three and a half percent more than what we did last year, and we hope and pray we hit it. That it's not even fun and it doesn't get you out of bed jumping right. You say how many people can I inspire and help today, that can open you up to a lot of different things in your business. The short answer is well if you're obviously a contractor and you do you typically deal with a set of clients every day if you ask yourself Who can I serve today, how many people can I help today, that's automatically going to have your brain think wait a second I'm currently doing business with five or ten clients but if the question is how many people can I help today that opens the parameters to more than ten clients. That means I have got to go out and talk to more people that's going to excite me more about my business and that means I'm going to help them. Potentially with our products or services. In the short of it reigniting your passion is going  to move you to new heights in your life and your business. Scott Hansen has a special gift for our listeners A sixty-minute break through session Free to our listeners A 12-month growth plan he is waving the $2000. 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In this episode of DXP we spend time considering the age-old question, “If you freeze a baby and then thaw it out, where did its soul go?” Well OK, it may have been a bit more sophisticated than that (as in, in cases of frozen embryos or near-death experiences, does the absence of heart- and brain activity prove that souls don’t exist? And if so, is abortion moral?). Then turn our attention to Hillary’s defeat of Bernie for the Democratic nomination (cough***rigged!***cough) and debate just how democratic this Democratic Republic of ours really is. After our break we weigh in on the Brock Turner rape case, covering such topics as consent, sexual ethics, and involuntary castration. Also, did we mention he should be castrated? Because he totally should be castrated. For real.

BEHOLD! The logo Basil was making for the Chainsaw guys that they didn't know about and never finished. AT LONG LAST. THE LONG LOST EPISODE THE WAYWARD PODCAST. IT HAS RETURNED! WITH A CAST OF THOUSANDS. WELL OK. A CAST OF FIVE. THOUSANDS! DIVIDED BY A THOUSAND. SO FIVE. OSMnotes Yes we are back and in 2 weeks we may even have another new episode! Exciting times my friends. ANYWAYS special shout-outs to  the  OSMfriends that made  this episode possible. John, Dylan, Pat, Niko. They are all amazing and wonderful people. And not out to get me like Charlie is. I’m on to you and your double spaces after periods!

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This week we get back into the Pragmatic CSO methodology, and jump into Section 2: Building Your Pragmatic Security Environment. The first step in S2 is Step 4 or Building Your Security Business Plan. Why do we need a business plan anyway? What's the point?All is revealed in podcast #12. Well OK, not all - but I lay the groundwork on why the business plan is probably the most important of the 12 steps and what goes into building it. Over the next 2 months or so, we'll be delving deeply into the business plan and the associated efforts to "sell" the strategy to the senior team.So, buckle up as we take off for the next leg of the P-CSO journey. Running time: 5:52Intro music is Jungle and I sign off with Acquiesce from Oasis' Masterplan album. Since the security business plan is YOUR Masterplan, I thought that was appropriate.

You say you want to hear more from coaches and athletes about what's going on in Texas and beyond? Well OK then.In this interview-heavy pod we speak with Austin College Head Coach Mark Lawrence about the varsity men's most recent five-game trip to California. Then Pegasus WP Academy's Spencer Dornin fills us in on his team's (and Thunder's) notable performance at the Evan Cousineau Tournament in the OC. Plus, we finally get Zach Lowery, two-time Texas player of the year and 2018 WWPA assists leader, to chat with us about adapting to collegiate water polo at CBU, and what it's like to play against all those Texans from Austin College. That and more stuff coming up this weekend with James and Joe.Music by:Alejandro EscovedoScott HolmesThe New ValleysMail the HorseCarsie BlantonGirls on Grass***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!***Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-txwaterpolo-podcast/donations