In Conversation

Embark with us and manga artist and creator Rizky Arrydesta as we explore the fantastical medieval empire of Indonesia through his comic book, Candala! Candala: https://toontube.co/project/candalaCandala is a riveting, vicious, and bloody manga taking place in the 13th century Majapahit Empire, where the Epic Ramayana is a part of real life. Following our protagonist Ayu, a young girl from the caste of Sudra (merchant) and her quest to avenge her sister.  While traveling on a routine journey, Ayu's little sister was eaten and flayed by a Buto, a man-eating demon. Horrors filled her eyes as the demon turned into the shape of her little sister. Saved by the people of the caste of death-dealing warrior monk, “Candala”, she vowed to exact her revenge on the Buto who devoured her little sister. We spoke the Majapahit Empire, the caste system that ordered their society, and the importance of the Indus River Epic Ramayana had on their culture.  After setting the scene, we dove into Candala's story, the world, and the future of the story worldAyu is carving a path of revenge one Buto at a time!  Join us in the blood soaked islands of Indonesia!Support the showAre you an intrepid explorer with your own story world? You should be a guest on Story World Explorers! Connect with us here: https://clovispointcm.com/be-a-guest

Embark with us and transmedia producer Maxwell Allen Duncan as we explore his story world The Time Realm through the first piece of transmedia content, the Knights of Mydista trading card game! Knights of Mydista: https://madaboutthis.media/knights-of-mydista/This isn't your average trading card game; it's a portal to the world of Daer Lurra, where your victories the write history of a country named Mydista, and the characters you champion become the heroes of an ever-unfolding saga. Discover the six powerful factions locked in a dance of dominance and diplomacy, and become part of a story that transcends the table.We spoke about the civil war and the factions & Adventures fighting for supremacy of a once untied Kingdom.  Most uniquely, Max intends on hosting annual tournaments that not only will host the premiere players of each faction, but pt them against each other to decide the fate of Mydista.  That's right, the audience will decide major battle victories, who lives and dies, and ultimately the victor of the civil war!The future transmedia outlets for Knight of Mydista are bright!  Join us!Support the showAre you an intrepid explorer with your own story world? You should be a guest on Story World Explorers! Connect with us here: https://clovispointcm.com/be-a-guest

Join us and Author & Senior Narrative Designer Nick Jones as we discuss his book, The Player & the Pentacle!  Nick Jones is the Senior Narrative Designer at Shark Mob Games and expert infusing folklore in to story to develop vibrant and "lived-in" story worlds.Buy the book here: https://www.amazon.com/Player-Pentacle-Folkloric-Motifs-Narrative-ebook/dp/B09Q8G5CJY/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2X496WSY2ZSA4&keywords=player+and+the+pentacle&qid=1688595733&s=books&sprefix=player+and+the+pentacle%2Cstripbooks%2C88&sr=1-1Watch the episode on YouTube: The Player & the Pentacle is a book about Narrative Design and interactive storytelling, and how allowing greater levels of agency in your stories allows for your audience to get lost through collectivism and empathy. We dove deep into folklore and the concept of "folkloresque", the difference between a folktale, myth, and legend, and the concept of the magic circle.It's an educational, motivating, fantastic conversation!#folkloresque #theplayerandthepentacle #narrativedesign #folklore #storyworld #storytelling #transmedia #collectivejourney #artists #creatives #worldbuilder #producers #indie #newconcepts #storyworldexplorersSupport the show

Join us and photographer Chris Guillen as we explore his story world of Modern Rosie!  Modern Rosie is based on the character of Rosie the Riveter, who was created for a recruitment campaign during WWII to attract women into the workforce.  See the project here: https://chrisguillencreative.com/rosieWatch the episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/_hUYd5vzjpwModern Rosies are female leaders from various backgrounds who are tireless ambassadors for their communities and industries.  The project has a social impact core, looking to elevate women and inspire the next generation of Rosies. From talking about our own Modern Rosie (Mom) to a an inspiring transmedia content idea, we talked through a transmedia plan to get Modern Rosie out to or people,  how the conversation of elevating women needs male support, and a mentorship program that can make a huge difference.  It's a great, enlightening, and encouraging conversation!#modernrosie #rosietheriveter #photography #chrisguillen #storyworld #storytelling #transmedia #collectivejourney #artists #creatives #worldbuilder #producers #indie #newconcepts #storyworldexplorersSupport the show

Join us and transmedia producer Houston Howard as we explore the ever-expanding world of NFTs!  This is the second time we've had Houston on the podcast talking about transmedia and story worlds from an educational standpoint.  As it becomes more and more apparent that NFTs are becoming a new and exciting way to expand story worlds of all sizes, we felt we had to get an expert on to talk about it, and talk we did!Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Os8o7fAgDTgFrom the metaverse to the undeniable value of digital assets and nonfungible tokens, we explored strategies of starting or integrating NFTs into your own story world coupled with real life stories of how people are employing them.  It's a great, enlightening, and encouraging conversation!#houstonhoward #nft #nfts #nonfungibletokens #catalystfestival #CatalystFestival2021 #storyworld #storytelling #transmedia #collectivejourney #artists #creatives #worldbuilder #producers #indie #newconcepts #storyworldexplorersSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/storyworldexplorers)

Join us, writer/creator Justin Burns, and actress Ireon Roach as we explore their story world of The Come Up!  Winner of best dramatic pilot and best dramatic actress at Catalyst Content Festival, The Come Up is a unique limited series following three Chicago high schoolers who use slam poetry to navigate their increasingly complicated lives. Inspired by the creator and cast's time going to high school together in Chicago Public Schools, this inspiring character study offers a glimpse into the mental states of teenagers struggling to find themselves in a city where it's easy to be lost.Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/1DSUHacpMYI The power of this story is in how this group of friends band together through tragedy, finding their strength in their voices through slam poetry.  We often forget the stress there is on a high schooler, especially one who is under constant threat of school closings, teacher walk outs, and other budgetary issues that have nothing to do with them.  As we dove into the world, we were able to identify mental health and communities in Chicago already engaged in slam poetry went hand in hand in building their audience. It was a great, Chicago-focused episode!Follow them:Socials: @thecomeupchi#TheComeUp #CPS #highschool #drama #awardwinning #catalystfestival #CatalystFestival2021 #storyworld #storytelling #transmedia #collectivejourney #artists #creatives #worldbuilder #producers #indie #newconcepts #storyworldexplorersSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/storyworldexplorers)

Join us and transmedia producer, Jeff Gomez as we explore the story world of Ultraman!  An IP that has existed since the 1960's, Ultraman has gone through 3 generations with 16 total Ultraman reincarnations.  Ultraman is the Japanese Superman, hailing from Nebula M78, who defend humanity against a legion of destructive giant monsters and scheming aliens called Kaiju.  Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/akL0hZCHhvcWhile we spoke on some of the lore and current storylines of Ultraman, we primarily focused on the backend of transmedia (Jeff Gomez doesn't need our help with content) and all the great things his company, Starlight Runner, are doing to engage American audiences with an iconic Japanese IP.  They are developing an audience building platform, Iceberg Theory, that creates an interactive live streaming experience, which has grown their audience during the pandemic.  Soon to be available to all creators, the goal of the platform is to help creators build audiences with new IP. In addition to Ultraman and its transmedia workings, we spoke about how any story world needs to find its Apostles and the potential of the metaverse.Take a listen with a notepad, you'll want it!#ultraman #jeffgomez #starlightrunner #icebergtheory #kaiju #storyworld #storytelling #transmedia #collectivejourney #artists #creatives #worldbuilder #producers #indie #newconcepts #storyworldexplorersSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/storyworldexplorers)

Join us and creators Dominique Jenssen, Sara Jumper, and Sarah White as we explore their story world, 1332 and the Lake Effect Collab!  1332 isn't an obscure reference to the medieval times, but of the amazing depth of the largest freshwater lake in the world, Lake Superior as well as the collab's first film project.  The group are all dancers for the Duluth Ballet, and the connection Duluthians have with the lake is deep.Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/3XprxudBIcIA combination of trying to expand dance to new mediums, highlight the lake's importance to Duluth, and to put Duluth's thriving art scene in the limelight, the Lake Effect Collab aims to start their journey with a three-part dance film.  This film will be a collaborative effort with Duluthian artists, and they plan on expanding into an amazing summer festival where they can show the country and world what Duluth has been up to.  We spoke about paganizing the summer festival to honor the lake, dance's uphill battle with availability, and a podcast idea connecting Duluth artists to the lake.Follow the Lake Effect Collab: https://www.instagram.com/lakeeffectmovementcollab/ #lakeeffectcollab #lakesuperior #duluth #film #dance #storyworld #storytelling #transmedia #collectivejourney #artists #creatives #worldbuilder #producers #indie #newconcepts #storyworldexplorersSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

Join us and creator Anthony E. Williams in exploring his story world of F.A.M.!  F.A.M. stands for family always matters.  It's a touching show centered around fatherhood and co-parenting in today's ever-changing times.  Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/TigKK68XE7QClosely based off of Anthony's own life, F.A.M. explores the themes of being a father to a daughter questioning her sexuality, the difficulties of parenting in a blended family, and the toughness of being a stepparent. Another conversation born from networking at Catalyst Content Festival!We discovered three amazing audiences for F.A.M., spoke about new content types to engage those audiences, and even helped Anthony change his pitch to highlight the new discoveries! Watch the Trailer:https://vimeo.com/447998213#fam #family #familtalwaysmatters #pilot #catalyst #catalystcontent #storyworld #storytelling #transmedia #collectivejourney #artists #creatives #worldbuilder #producers #indie #newconcepts #storyworldexplorersSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

Join us and creator Zack Morrison as we explore his story world, Canusa Street! Canusa Street is a 30-minute comedy series written specifically for network tv, much like a Parks and Rec.  The story takes place in an absurd small town cut in half by the Vermont/Quebec border following a jaded US Border Patrol attempts to solve local cases while maintaining a fierce rivalry with her twin sister in the Canadian Mounties.This pilot explores the absurdity of the small town which is split in half by the Canada/US border.  Throughout much of its history the border didn't matter, but after the 9/11 attacks the border began to be enforced.  This forcibly highlighted the differences between being an American and Canadian in a town where your neighbors, even half of your house, may be on the other side of the border.  Cansua Street aims to showcase the small differences between everyone that we take such pride in, but ultimately don't mean anything.We spoke about these strange hills we choose to die on, came up with Zack's TikTok and podcast strategy, and had a bunch of laughs about an underground poutine speakeasy. Follow Zack: Website: https://www.zackmorrison.comPrevious work: Everything's Fine: A Panic Attack in D Major - https://vimeo.com/342875021 Canusa Poster Art designed by Connor Simpson #canusastreet #comedy #border #pilot #catalyst #catalystcontent #storyworld #storytelling #transmedia #collectivejourney #artists #creatives #worldbuilder #producers #indie #newconcepts #storyworldexplorersSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

Join us and creator Kimon Lycos as we dive into his story world, Forever Has Fallen!  Forever Has Fallen is an action-thriller podcast series, that sends you into an immersive story world full of online escape rooms, character interaction, fun challenges and digital rewards.You're a bounty hunter, looking for the truth behind a murder and escalating crimes against humanity. The prime suspect is tech billionaire Karl-Axel Mattiasson, whose global empire The Forever Social, delivered digital immortality to millions of people. Now all those lives are lost, and he is on the run. With humanity grieving and billions of dollars missing, powerful forces converge to wipe him out as he plots his revenge from a secret lair.Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/LCBAUlV4d0YListen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/swe-6-story-and-horse-with-hilary-adams/id1503626990?i=1000533271193Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5K3hWkSOeHqm0NqfRsRQzjThis story world takes place in the not to distant future, exploring themes and situations of a world much like George Orwell did in “1984”.  Should we be immortalized digitally should it become available?  We spoke on this, explored the decentralized storytelling method of the first season, and much more!Login to your Forever Social account and come join the conversation… if it's still there!Follow Forever Has Fallen:https://foreverhasfallen.com/#foreverhasfallen #bountyhunter #mystery #immortality #interactive #storyworld #storytelling #transmedia #collectivejourney #artists #creatives #worldbuilder #producers #indie #newconcepts #storyworldexplorersSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

Join us and founder Hilary Adams as we dive into her business transmedia story world, Story and Horse!  Story and Horse is a life coaching business that supports creative people like you thriving in your life through one-to-one coaching, group experiences, and animal-partnered healing.  They offer the unique option to work with animals as partners in your journey, including horses as co-coaches, virtually or in person. This story world is all about rediscovering your connection to nature as a tool to help you in the hustle and bustle of modern life.  We discussed the core of Hilary's world, how business transmedia story worlds helps drive multiple forms of revenue, and came up with an excellent retreat idea!So, saddle up!  We're going to rediscover what it means to be human!Follow Story and Horse:hello@storyandhorse.comwww.storyandhorse.comhttps://www.facebook.com/storyandhorseNewsletter: https://preview.mailerlite.com/webforms/landing/n1k7f4 #storyandhorse #lifecoach #nature #self-improvement #horsecoaching #storyworld #storytelling #transmedia #collectivejourney #artists #creatives #worldbuilder #producers #indie #newconcepts #storyworldexplorersSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

Welcome to the story world of The Iron Leech!  Join us and Iron Leech creators Neal & Chad as we transport back to the 19th century, where superstations were the foundation of the unexplained and whaling was all the rage.  This stop-motion feature film is coming to a screen near you, and luckily it seems won't stop there!  We discussed the world of The Iron Leech, new transmedia ideas to immerse and grow their audience for years to come, and even sand some sea chanties.Grab your harpoon but DON'T say goodbye to your family, we are setting sail to find us some story!Follow the progress of The Iron Leech:IG: https://www.instagram.com/workshedanimation/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/Workshedanimate #theironleech #stopmotion #featurefilm #animation #storyworld #storytelling #transmedia #collectivejourney #artists #creatives #worldbuilder #producers #indie #newconcepts #storyworldexplorers Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week's guest is our new friend, Houston Howard!  Houston Howard is an entrepreneur, creator, producer, professor, author, speaker and thought-leader in the space of multiplatform, transmediated entertainment — or what he simply calls, Super Story.  Driven by a passion and desire to build generational IP that leverages both narrative velocity and brand scalability, Houston has created Super Story IP and multiplatform strategy for the likes of Fox, CBS, Mattel, Disney Imagineering, Electronic Arts, Ubisoft, Wizards of the Coast, West Coast Customs, Slinky and more. Houston has published three books focused on process of creating transmediated entertainment, including his most recent and most successful, You're Gonna Need a Bigger Story.We spoke about how transmedia storytelling benefits investors, the audience, and the creators.  How transmedia makes business sense to those not in the entertainment business, like private equity investors. We also spoke about the “game” that's being played in Hollywood and how having a transmedia plan to gain audience for your IP helps you win it.It's a must listen for any creative trying to get a series or film created and distributed.Follow Houston:Website: http://superstory.worksBook: http://tinyurl.com/ygnabsWorkbook: http://tinyurl.com/ygnabw Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-super-story-podcast/id1508634493#superstory #houstonhoward #distribution #hollywood #storyworld #storytelling #transmedia #collectivejourney #artists #creatives #worldbuilder #showrunner #screenwriters #producers #indie #newconcepts #storyworldexplorers Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week's guest is our new friend, Ty Hanson, and his story world, Millennium Exile!  Ty describes himself as an average Aussie guy, looking to collaborate with licensing companies and Japanese Anime studios to produce an authentic Anime hit!Millennium Exile is a story world in a fantasy universe steeped in lore and magic. Our main character, Vincent, is a short-tempered orphan, blessed with a super-human strength and living on the streets of the Ryuuga Ghettos. One fateful day, he is confronted by a man more powerful than himself and recruited into the ranks of GRAVE; a secret anti-terrorist organization whose members also possess strange abilities.  Situations become more complicated when an entity known as the Wrath is awakened and enters Vincent's body. Now having to come to terms with his new and deadly powers, Vincent is thrust headfirst into a world he never knew existed.  However, when an ancient, cannibalistic demon surfaces from the shadows of history and leads an army on the world, it falls to the members of GRAVE to stop them and save the world from total annihilation.Armed with a power that had been exiled for a thousand years, can Vincent be the key to the world's salvation or its demise? We spoke about the lore and history of the Millennium Exile story world, dove into character development alongside world development, and how plot armor is the terrible for keeping an audience guessing.It's a fantastical conversation!Learn more about Millennium Exile:https://www.millenniumexile.com/ #MillenniumExile #anime #fantasy #magic #lore #storyworld #storytelling #transmedia #collectivejourney #artists #creatives #worldbuilder #showrunner #screenwriters #producers #indie #newconceptsSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week's guests are our new friends Jake Sorgen & Matt Bowdren!  Jake is a Composer-Poet and Musician based in Chicago. Jake has released 7 albums of lyrical songs and interdisciplinary music/spoken word pieces. Matt is a theatre artist based in Chicago, IL. Matt is a founder and Governing Ensemble member of The Story Theatre, and an Artistic Associate for the Rogue Theatre. Together, they started Small Giants.  Small Giants is a Chicago-based interdisciplinary ensemble that blends language, music, and improvisation. The debut album is set to be released summer 2021 with a live concert/performance piece currently in development.We dove into the idea of Small Giants, micro moments that it creates, and new transmedia methods to get the word out and invite new audiences and artists into the project.It's a great idea filled episode!Follow Jake & Matt:https://mattbowdren.comhttps://jakesorgen.com#smallgiants #poetry #music #band #newdiscipline #theater #interactivestorytelling #storyworld #storytelling #transmedia #collectivejourney #artists #creatives #worldbuilder #showrunner #screenwriters #producers #indie #newconceptsSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our new friend, Christian L. Nommay!  Christian is the founder of the indie RPG publishing company, Knight Errant Media, and the creator of the tabletop RPG and StoryWorld, Titan Effect.Titan Effect is an espionage and Sc-Fi tabletop role-playing game and transmedia project, set in a near-future where spies gifted with psychic powers clash with genetically enhanced soldiers, in a secret war in which the fate of human evolution is at stake. We dove into the lore of the Titan Effect World, the amazing storylines that exist within it, and the transmedia future of the world.It’s an amazing, engrossing world and creator!Titan Effect RPG Tabletop: ·         https://titaneffect.com/·         https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/249701/Titan-Effect-RPGFollow Christian:Twitter: https://twitter.com/ChristianNommayLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christiannommay/ Want to watch instead of listen?  Go here: https://youtu.be/npO4-TJvzz0#Titianeffect #RPGtabletop #tabletopgame #interactivestorytelling #storyworld #storytelling #transmedia #collectivejourney #artists #creatives #worldbuilder #showrunner #screenwriters #producers #indie #newconceptsSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

Welcome to the end of season 2!  It’s been a relatively short season compared to season 1 (a difference of 27 episodes) but we feel like it’s time for a change in the podcast’s focus.In season 1, we spoke to interesting people doing interesting things.  Some focused-on filmmaking, others on marketing & advertising, most were in the category of interesting people.  In season 2 we moved focus to marketing and advertising, speaking with many people who are moving the needle in that world.  After 53 episodes and speaking to many fantastic people and shoring up many partnerships, it’s time for us to get back to what we are trying to do professionally: storytelling.In season 3, we will be speaking to artists of all kinds about the work they are currently doing.  Not about how they got there, but talking characters, influences, and StoryWorlds they inhabit.  A virtual jam session of ideas where we bounce concepts off of each other like in jazz and hopefully come up with new paths for their stories to unfold.If you know anybody creating cool things, send them our way.  Til next time folks!#storyworld #storytelling #transmedia #artists #creatives #filmmakers #series #showrunner #screenwriters #producers #filmindustry #indie #newconceptsSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our good friend, Chet Turnbeaugh!  Chet is a Chicago-based ghostwriter who writes for business thought leaders, influencers, Hollywood personalities, and people in the entertainment industry. He specializes in writing full-length ghostwritten books, as well as blogs, sales copy, whitepapers, and other long-form content.We spoke about who needs ghost writing, transmedia storytelling, and how important finding your audience and including them in your story.It’s a transmedia conversation!Follow Chet:www.ghostedbooks.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/chetturnbeaugh/#Ghostwriter #novelist #writer #transmedia #transmediastorytelling #storytelling #screenwriter #storyteller #marketing #advertising #thinkradical #Clovispoint #podcast #inconversation #attention #earnattentionSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guests are our new friends, Ken Cameron & Russell Stratton!  Ken and Russell have together created the Forum Theatre for Business series to help organizations give their employees the tools they need to co-create a respectful workplace culture and empower individuals to challenge disrespectful behavior.We spoke about the power of Forum Theatre, how there’s nothing wrong with an enjoyable training program, and how they have built an amazing ecosystem around their book “I Need to F***ing Talk to You”.It’s an F***ing amazing conversation!By the Book:https://www.amazon.com/Need-ing-Talk-You-CONVERSATIONS-ebook/dp/B08L27K44L/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=I+need+to+f-ing+talk+to+you&qid=1616370423&sr=8-1Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our new friend, Syya Yasotornrat! Syya doesn't take herself too seriously. But what she does take seriously is building up the community of podcasting. Nevermind the 20+ years in Tech Sales and the wonderful time working for the Disney Company in her 20's. It's the connection of many shared experiences and stories that resonate with audiences. Innovation Media Enterprises helps businesses and personal brands create effective and memorable podcasts. Everyone has a story to tell. Do it with a podcast!We spoke about podcasting, how there’s a podcast for every person and a person for every podcast, and how businesses need to properly leverage their podcasts.Follow Syya:To Learn More: https://www.innovationmediaenterprises.com/Syya can be reached at: Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/syyayasotornrat/Twitter: @IamSYasoEmail: syya@innovationcalling.com#podcasting #businesspodcast #podcastcoach #podcaststradegy #storytelling #screenwriter #storyteller #marketing #advertising #thinkradical #Clovispoint #podcast #inconversation #attention #earnattentionSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our new friend, Garrett Spatz! Garrett is a storyteller, educator, and culture specialist. He teaches courses on music and culture at the College of DuPage and received his Masters in ethnomusicology from BGSU, where he focused on American popular music, identity, and social movements. In addition to his interest in the science of learning and music, he is a screenwriter who enjoys both comedy and drama, having his Yoga(h)ohm sitcom selected by Second City’s first pilot competition. He is also an avid cook and tai chi practitioner.We spoke about how self-imposed limitations blossoms creativity, the idea of character anchors, how to start small with dedication.Follow Garrett:https://www.linkedin.com/in/garrettspatz/#creativity #limits #noma #limitations #sandbox #storytelling #screenwriter #storyteller #marketing #advertising #thinkradical #Clovispoint #podcast #inconversation #attention #earnattentionSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our new friend, Jason Cutter! Jason is the CEO of Cutter Consulting Group, an author, podcaster and sees himself as a sales success architect for companies and individuals. Even though he didn’t have a sales upbringing or background (his bachelor’s degree is in Marine Biology), he knows what it takes to be successful in sales. His first book – Selling With Authentic Persuasion: Transform from Order Taker to Quota Breaker - is focused on helping anyone in a sales professional.We spoke about authentic persuasion in sales, how the customer journey is a baton race, and how everything in sales is h2h (human to human).It’s quite the persuasive conversation!Follow Jason:Main Hub/Link: www.jasoncutter.comCCG Website: https://www.cutterconsultinggroup.com/Authentic Persuasion: https://authenticpersuasion.com/Authentic Persuasion Show/The Sales Experience Podcast: https://wavve.link/tsepLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jascut/Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/authenticpersuasion/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jasonmcutter/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUispT6lFirB6zLADpvQ8HQBuy the Book: https://www.authenticpersuasion.com/buyswap/Online Course: Persuading Like A Professional: https://authenticpersuasion.thinkific.com/courses/persuading-like-a-professional#Sales #persuasion #customerjourney #sales #integration #marketing #advertising #thinkradical #Clovispoint #podcast #inconversation #attention #earnattentionSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our new friend, Horace Flournoy! Horace is an experienced entrepreneurial manager, with a talent for building creative, technology-focused business and revenue models. He’s the founder of SwayBrand that helps brands connect with their target audiences through diverse “Authentikas” to execute authentic campaigns. They often get mistaken for an influencer marketing company, but they help brands and Authentikas find and curate authentic, long term partnerships. We spoke about how most brands are commoditizing influencers, the fallacy of trickle down influence, and the amazing insight you can get from your Authentikas about what your audience is saying about you.It’s an authentic and needle-moving conversation! Seriously, don’t miss this one.Follow Horace:www.swaybrand.com/aboutLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hflournoy/Watch the Conversation here: https://youtu.be/0ykKrn6QGgo #swaybrand #Authentikas #influencer #influencermarketing #influence #branding #brand #socialmedia #marketing #advertising #thinkradical #Clovispoint #podcast #inconversation #attention #earnattentionSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our new friend, Kate DiLeo! Kate is Chief Brand Architect with brand strategy firm, Ennobble. She is a pragmatist who believes that brand is the path of least resistance to revenue and she is passionate about helping organizations create compelling common ground with their customers. Kate’s proprietary process quickly and effectively helps her clients articulate who they are, why they’re different, and how they solve their customer’s problem, all in only 3 – 4 weeks.We spoke about having a brand message that provokes, the importance of consistency of your brand message, and how being able to deliver your brand message swiftly leads to confidence.It’s a thought-provoking conversation!Follow Kate:LinkedIn Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katedileo/Website: https://ennobble.com/#brandmessage #branding #brand #messaging #podcast #creatives #artist #storytelling #socialmedia #brand #employee #passion #marketing #advertising #thinkradical #Clovispoint #podcast #inconversationSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guests are our new friends, Angie Trigilio & Emily Sandberg! Angie is a Creative Director turned Creative Coach based in Chicago. After nearly two decades in the corporate world, she pivoted to focus on the part of her job she loves the most and where she could have the biggest impact – mentoring, developing and coaching creative professionals. Emily is a writer, content person and the Editorial Director at The Zebra. Together, they host the podcast The Artist at Work.We spoke about creatives in corporate positions, the phycological blocks with Social Media, and the power of encouraging employees with their passion projects.It’s an artistic conversation!Follow Angie & Emily:The Artist at Work (TAAW) - Podcast: https://theartistatwork.buzzsprout.com/- Insta: https://www.instagram.com/artistatworkpod/Angie - Business: https://checkpluscoaching.com/- Business Insta: https://www.instagram.com/checkplus_coaching/- Personal Insta: https://www.instagram.com/angilio/Emily- Insta: https://www.instagram.com/emilysandberg/ #TAAW #podcast #creatives #artist #storytelling #socialmedia #brand #employee #passion #marketing #advertising #thinkradical #Clovispoint #podcast #inconversationSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our new friend, Jennifer Palais! Jennifer is a Creative and Cultural Strategist - working with brands, agencies, and production companies. She helps brands exist in big moments in big ways. By creating strategies that communicate brand stories across platforms - online and off and back again - she advocates for value-driven content with the intent to create real and lasting relationships with audiences.We spoke about how commercials are parasites, brands misunderstanding storytelling, and how audiences and consumer bases only invest in a brand when there’s story. It’s a story-filled conversation!Follow Jennifer:http://www.jenniferpalais.com/http://linkedin.com/in/jenniferpalais#Transmedia #storytelling #collectivejourney #strategist #brand #branding #audience #audiencebuilding #marketing #advertising #thinkradical #Clovispoint #podcast #inconversationSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our new friend, Mike Lewis! Mike is a seasoned veteran of the sales and marketing trenches who has spent much of his professional career helping marketers find new and meaningful ways to engage key audiences. His current venture with his partners at Click360 does just that — by helping marketers see exactly which efforts contribute to revenue while optimizing the sales funnel so that marketers know exactly where to allocate budgets that drive the behaviors most valuable to return-on-ad-spend. We spoke about the optimizing the customer journey, the differences between B2C and B2B customer journeys, understanding what where to allocate marketing dollars in your sales funnel. It’s the optimal customer journey conversation! Follow Mike: www.click360.io linkedin.com/company/40733371 https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-louie-lewis/ #customerjouney #salesfunnel #optimization #data #analytics #marketing #consumerdata #sales #pricing #strategies #demand #inconversation #podcast #ROI Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our new friend, JP Dubé! JP is the Sigmund E. Edelstone Professor of Marketing at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business. His research interests include empirical quantitative marketing and empirical industrial organization, with specific interests in pricing, advertising, branding, digital marketing, retailing, and dynamic decision-making. This empirical focus is also reflected in his MBA course on pricing strategies, which is designed to teach students how to apply marketing models and analytics to develop pricing strategies in practice.We spoke about how price setting is a marketing decision, price optimization, and the economic theory of the Creative Destruction.We also spoke at length about the craft beer industry, why city fines need to be scaled, and had some laughs at John Wallace’s expense.It’s the optimal conversation on all things pricing!Follow JP:Personal website: https://jp-dube.com/JP’s Research: http://ssrn.com/author= 105881 #Priceoptimization #data #analytics #marketing #consumerdata #price #branding #advertising #pricing #strategies #demand #economics #creativedestruction #inconversation #podcast #storytellingSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our new friend, JD Gershbein! JD is the CEO of Owlish Communications and has been at the forefront of advancing the ideals of the digital world, inspiring opportunity-oriented individuals and companies to harness the power of the online media to elevate their profiles, engage their communities, and win new business. JD was one of the world’s first independent LinkedIn consultants and is widely regarded as a thought leader in the areas of personal branding, social networking, and social entrepreneurship.We spoke about how LinkedIn isn’t a sales platform, the importance of building your brand, and how to build content creation capacity.It’s an owlish conversation!Follow JD:LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jdgershbein View JD’s TEDx talk at https://youtu.be/b3jsrUI8fHk Company Website: https://www.owlishcommunications.com Speaker Website: https://www.jdgershbein.com Subscribe to JD on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/owlishcommunications Follow JD on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/whoisjd Follow JD on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/jdgershbein Follow JD on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jdgershbein #linkedin #whoisjd #inconversationSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our new friend, Larry Long Jr.! Larry is the Director of Collegiate Sales at Teamworks. He is also the Founder and CEO of Larry Long Jr LLC, which focuses on sales motivation, inspiration, training & coaching and the host of the ‘Midweek Midday Motivational Minute’.We spoke about college athletes learning, building & using their brand to earn endorsements, how important it is for everyone to build their personal brand across social media, and colleges are using their student athletes as brand ambassadors / recruiters.It’s an energetic and fascinating conversation! The perfect episode to kick Season 2 off!Follow Larry:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/longjr7/Twitter: https://twitter.com/larrylongjrYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtHsbn_-WhhtnEtCksm-UhA/videosFollow Teamworks / INFLCR:www.teamworks.comwww.inflcr.com #influencermarketing #influencer #teamworks #brand #university #collegeathletics #athletics #personalbrand #marketing #recruiting #collegerecruitment #inconversation #podcast #marketing #branding #storytelling #advertising #thinkradical Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our new friend, Brian Bogert! Brian is a passionate human behavior and performance coach, speaker, business strategist, top sales professional and philanthropic leader who believes in helping growth-minded individuals achieve the best version of themselves: their most authentic selves. Brian teaches how to leverage radical authenticity and awareness to create the intentional life you’ve been dreaming of, but have struggled to create. His revolutionary strategy—embrace pain to avoid suffering—has helped individuals and companies break beyond their normal to achieve the success in life and business that they’ve always wanted. We spoke about value creation, how you can’t predict viral content, and how important it is to understand other peoples (or your audiences) perspectives.We also had a ton of laughs throughout the conversation and two (2) predictions one by both Frank and Brian. Frank’s prediction was on Ocean Spray’s Super Bowl Ad and Brian’s about the synergy between us and a connection, Kevin Seo, on a future podcast. It’s the perfect conversation to end season 1 of In Conversation! Seriously, amazing.Follow Brian:Giveaway: www.nolimitsprelude.comWebsite: http://www.brianbogert.com/#BrainBogert #value #valuecreation #impact #ROI #perspective #audience #content #transmedia #WWE #oceanspray #predictions #humanbehavior #speaker #greatconversation #inconversation #podcast #entrepreneur Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our new friend, Stephen Klava! Stephen is a social entrepreneur, founder of Klava fund. Klava fund is a fundraising platform that is bringing ease of use, donor first philosophy & true grassroots tools to impact causes. The idea right now for the fund is to assist struggling local restaurants to be able to raise money to see the end of the pandemic.We spoke about the need for helping local restaurants and cities neighborhoods to avoid ghost towns, the future of social media and social fundraising, and how we need to change our priorities to save small businesses.It’s a conversation that pays in information! Follow the Klava Fund:klavalabs.cominstagram.com/klavafundfacebook.com/klavafundfacebook.com/groups/fundraisingwithklavafundtwitter.com/klavafund #klavafund #Fundraising #majorgifts #localrestaurants #savesmallbusiness #covid19 #pandemic #fund #crowdfunding #inconversation #podcast #entrepreneur Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our new friend, Sam Provenzano! Sam has been in the fundraising world for eleven years, specializing in major gifts for the companies he worked for. Currently, he is running a community on LinkedIn called NextGen Fundraisers where Fundraisers come to share insight, strategy and comradery. Under the same name, he also is consulting fundraisers and other individuals under the Development umbrella on how to properly use LinkedIn as a tool. We spoke about the human element in building your personal brand on LinkedIn, trust building through who’s in your network, and going from cultivation to solicitation with big gifts.It’s relationship focused conversation!Follow Sam:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samprovenzano/NextGen Fundraisers LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/nextgenfundraisers/NextGen Fundraisers: https://www.nextgenfundraisers.com/#Fundraising #majorgifts #nonprofit #development #networking #relationships #relationshipbuilding #LinkedIn #fundraiser #inconversation #podcast #entrepreneur Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our good friend, Eric Clarke! Eric is an event photographer stationed here in Chicago, doing work for networking event groups, corporate events, and even doing work for companies like Netflix. We got to know Eric through Tony P’s Networking Events (listen to our conversation with Tony P and Greg DeKalb here) where he was the primary event photographer. With no events happening in person for the foreseeable future, what’s an event photographer to do?We spoke about the impact COVID has had on events and the way forward, Eric’s strategy of not missing anything during events, and doing work for your portfolio v. doing work for free.We had plenty of laughs about tackling hurdles, the world’s largest rooftop bar, and how long a day feels while shooting an event.It’s a photogenic conversation! Follow Eric:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eclarkephoto/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericmichaelclarke/ Special thanks to our on and only Patreon Supporter, Tony Perez :)Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our new friend, Chris Johnson! Chris is one of the founders of SIL (Strategic Introductions League) which is a networking group here in Chicago and expanding. SIL made a pivot during the pandemic to move to online networking, allowing for them to continue to grow the membership while allowing for vetting of each member to get rid of the “takers”. This has made a cohesive group orientated around giving and helping each other. We spoke about networking during the pandemic, making sure you make the “second call”, and how to ask for things after giving.We also had laughs about Chris inability to drink IPA’s, the common euphemism “eat your own dog”, and Frank’s voice cracks.A connecting conversation!Follow Chris:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-johnson-309575b/Want to join SIL? Contact a member or Chris!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our new friend, James McGuinness! James is the founder of PondLeap, which helps entrepreneurs and companies looking to expand into new countries establish a sales strategy, hire freelance salespeople, and coach those freelancers to sell their products all for the average price of one full time salesperson. Having experienced the struggles himself, PondLeap’s aim is to minimize the risk of hiring and managing salespeople.We spoke about how important reputation is in business and sales, how you should do your research before talking to anyone, and how CEO’s need to be fundamentally well versed in all aspects of the business while allowing themselves time to learn stuff they don’t know.We had a bunch of laughs at the expense of Elon Musk, ranting about how awful marketplaces are, and invented anew cocktail named the “English Matthew McConaughey”.Grab a warm beer and join us for a great conversation!Watch Here: https://youtu.be/Ui-UnpQpqV8Follow PondLeap:Website: https://www.pondleap.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pondleap/Follow James:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesmcguinness/Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our good friend, Kyle Jackson! Kyle is the director of operations at a luxury hotel here in Chicago. Kyle has developed a reputation for caring about the well being of the people who work for him. This reputation is due large in part to his belief that people matter more then profit.We spoke about the importance of people over profitability, the value of customer money, and how you shouldn’t make money your life goal.We also had plenty of laughs about the Kyle Half-Smile, his amazing financial skills, and how bad Kyle is at building rollercoasters.It’s a great conversation!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our new friend, Leigh Lahav! Leigh is an animator and a writer, though on the podcast we discovered she’s more or a writer then an animator. She’s worked on several projects as a writer and has channel on YouTube where she posts he own parody animations (super funny, see link below).We spoke about how it’s always good to have multiple projects while pitching, using yourself and family in your writing to make characters more real, and how important good producers can be to a project.We also had lots of laughs about Leigh being a walking product placement for Coke Zero, how little Leigh cares about who write what on any given project, and swapping writers room stories.It’s an animated conversation!Follow Leigh here:Twitter: Twitter.com/leighlahavYouTube: Youtube.com/onlyleigh #animation #adultanimation #writer #writersroom #script #screenwriter #comedy #passion #artist #creator #parody #story #storyteller #inconversation #podcastSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest id our good friend, Clint Barnard-El! Clint is a model (if you didn’t notice). He’s represented By Select here in Chicago and globally, and getting paid to model for about 10 years. We spoke about receiving rejection, how networking catapulted his career, and why models often have to country hop to get new work.We also had a lot of laughs about fixing your face, how we are charging Clint 70% commission on anything he makes via our network, and Jack’s new gravel business.A stunning conversation with Clint!Follow Clint:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/barnardclint/Select Model: https://www.instagram.com/selectmodelchicago/Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our good friend, Jason Weight! Jason is a writer, director and voice actor with his own series named Starship Goldfish as well as several other projects for companies like Crunchy Roll. Starship Goldfish has been a labor of love for the past 10 years, and recently signed with Starburns Industries to produce the show. He is currently still pitching to find a home for the project.We spoke about his 10 year journey with his project Starship Goldfish, how important having a social following is for a project to being picked-up, and how you don’t need to be an animator to create an animation (find animators!).A great conversation with the always witty, Jason Weight!Follow Jason & Starship Goldfish:Starship Goldfish Pilot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRZZ7kpdGvoStarship Goldfish Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/StarshipGoldfish/Jason’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ajasonweight/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-weight-45279417/Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our new friend, Austin McCulloh! Austin is the founder of Austin McCulloh Advising, where he performs as a Sales & Accountability Consultant. He helps financial advisors grow their business by providing psychology revamping and leadership training. Essentially, he helps salespeople understand themselves so they can help other people.We spoke about the abundant v. lack mindset, how sales are about helping other people NOT yourself, and how asking for help from experts isn’t an expense but an investment. We also laughed our asses off at people who hide their ideas & networks, Austin’s Freudian slip about his sex life, and even gave some tips about recording through a web cam.It’s an electric and hilarious conversation! Follow Austin:Website: https://www.austinmcculloh.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/austin-mcculloh/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/austinmcculloh/Want to see the people behind the beautiful voices? This episode is available on YouTube!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our friend, Asher Ahmahd Waldron! Asher is a musician and yoga instructor focusing on bringing physical and mental balance to musicians. We spoke about the importance of artists health, how art is not easy, and how discouraging it is as an artist not to be valued enough to be compensated accurately. We also had laughs about a devious plan to expose people asking musicians to perform with no notice for exposure, a new architect named Frank Lloyd Bright, and musing about how awkward instruments are to play.A Zen and hilarious conversation! Follow Asher:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asher_ahmahd/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/asher-waldron-0bb51279/Listen:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/5WH6IEymV2whxgXCJAIiXW?si=YtjdSyf1SAOyfrAAV9cCAABandcamp : https://wearenoneofyourconcern.bandcamp.comSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our new friend, Caitlin McAllister! Caitlin is the COO (chief operations officer) at Workbox, a tech incubator and accelerator. We are currently members of Workbox’s Faster Smarter Accelerator program for our own tech idea! We spoke about how fundraising for a start-up is a lot like dating, how founders have more to gain by being open about their tech idea rather then being secretive, and how important networking is for everyone. We also had many laughs caused by speaking gaffs, the importance of wearing pants even on Zoom calls, and how the Midwest is better than the west and east coast. It’s an informative and hilarious conversation! Follow Caitlin:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caitlinmcallister/Follow Workbox:Website: https://www.workboxcompany.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/workbox-company/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/workboxcompany/Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our good friend, John Cates! John is the founder and Creative Producer at Cates Collaborative, which offers creative services and video production. He specializes in creating content that genuinely reflects a company’s story through video, and recently added animation to the list of services offered.We spoke about storytelling being a buzz word in the video production industry, the importance of giving your audience a reason to watch your content, and how a businesses promotional material needs to be genuine and authentic to work.We also had many laughs about the tree cutting, new drink ideas, and how bad branded content really sticks out.A hilarious meeting of the minds! Grab yourself a Fish in Your Pants and join us!Follow John:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-cates-8a28469/Follow Cates Collaborative: Website: https://www.catescollaborative.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cates-collaborative-llc/Videos mentioned in episode:Viral Video: https://vimeo.com/454836812Uncertain Times: https://vimeo.com/414542304AIM: https://vimeo.com/440444212Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our good friend, Jacob Krueger! Jake is the founder of Jacob Krueger Studio in New York City which is a studio that offers Screenwriting Workshops, Master Classes, Creative Coaching and Hypnosis for Writers. In addition, Jake is an award winning screenwriter, playwright, producer and director. We’ve known Jacob for 4 years, having met him at Catalyst Stories | Content Festival.We spoke about the dangers of paying for coverage reading and bad feedback for your screenplay, how to look at your dead end job in a positive light, and how every writer should be looking for a mentor to push them throughout their career. An information packed conversation with the always insightful, Jacob Krueger!Follow Jake:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacobkrueger/Follow Jacob Krueger Studio:Website: https://www.writeyourscreenplay.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jacob-krueger-studio/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejkstudio/Twitter: https://twitter.com/thejkstudioQuarantinis Link: https://www.writeyourscreenplay.com/product/quarantinis-online-happy-hour-of-free-writing-exercises-9102020/Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our good friend, James Kinloch! James is Managing Partner & Co-Founder of ART by Capital Digital. The letters of ART stand for; Accurate, Relevant & Tested in their content based on data, strategy, tactics, tools & more. He’s worked in the field of advertising for 15+ years, traveling & working in amazing places within WPP such as Africa, Americas, Europe, & beyond. We spoke about speed as a metric of success, the need for testing in advertising, and the importance of HR in building brands.A great, fast paced conversation!Follow James:https://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbieandluna/Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our very good friend, Sofia Monroe! Sofia is the Founder and Executive Producer at Daymaker Productions, which is an independent company where Art, Marketing, Philanthropy and talented, innovative minds meet to create quality content for social and community impact, commercial and entertainment purposes. We spoke about filmmaking, the power of gratitude and mentoring, and how to be pleasantly persistent.An amazingly positive conversation!Follow Sofia:Instagram: @sofialomoLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sofiamonroe/Follow Daymaker Productions:Website: https://www.daymakerproductions.com/Instagram: @daymakerproLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/daymakerproductions/about/Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our good friend, Steven Adams! Steve is the co-founder and a manager/producer at Alta Global Media. He’s in the film industry working with a multitude of production houses to take projects from script to distribution, attaching talent he manages along the way. We spoke about how everyone working on films are storytellers, how creatives need to get out of the dream world and into the real world, and the magic of cinema.Follow Steve:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenadamsent/Follow Alta Global Media:Website: http://altaglobalmedia.net/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/altaglobalmedia/Instagram: @altaglobal.mediaSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our new friend, Matt Granados! Matt is the founder of Life Pulse, INC and author of the book “Motivate the Unmotivated”. Matt views his work as life-saving, going into companies and helping management motivate their employees with win-win solutions and help individuals find work/life integration. We spoke about how to achieve work/life integration, how to connect with your employees desires past money, and how life is supposed to be enjoyed. Follow Matt:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewgranados/Life Pulse, INC:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/life-pulse-inc/Website: https://www.lifepulseinc.com/Buy “Motivate the Unmotivated”: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CD3CYSXExclusive offer from Matt: https://www.lifepulseinc.com/podgiftSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)

This week’s guest is our new friend, Arthur Wagoner! Arthur is one of the founders of a company named Garden of Beardin, who’s purpose it get men of all ages interested and involved in gardening. Traditionally, gardening is seen as a feminine activity, but Garden of Beardin is aiming to tear down that stereotype. We spoke about what it means to be a man, how community gardens help feed those less fortunate, and gardening tips and tricks.A very fruitful and ever-growing conversation! Follow Garden of Beardin:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gardenofbeardin/Merch: https://www.redbubble.com/people/BeardedGardener/shop Follow Arthur:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aewagon3/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arthur-wagoner-8243a753/Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/inconversation)