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Achieving Success with Olivia Atkin Episode 137 "How To Achieve A Clear Vision For Unstoppable Success with John Marvin"Olivia talks personal and professional achievements with John Marvin. John D. Marvin is the President and CEO of Texas State Optical, a leading network of independent optometrists generating over $110 million in annual revenue. With nearly 25 years of leadership experience, John has transformed TSO into one of the top ten retail optical companies in the United States, setting a benchmark for excellence in eye care and business growth. He is a Certified Member of the John C. Maxwell Team of Professional Speakers, Trainers, and Coaches, sharing his expertise in leadership, customer service, and practice management. John's ability to align mindset with strategy has not only driven TSO's success but also made him a sought-after mentor for professionals in sales, business, and personal growth. His insights into consumer behavior and organizational leadership offer a wealth of knowledge for anyone aiming to elevate their success.Join Olivia every Tuesday as she brings on top notch guests to talk about how they are Achieving Success! Career Development Book and More at Achieving-success.comStay Connected With Us:Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/achieving-success-llcInstagram: @_achievingsuccessTwitter: @_achievesuccessFacebook: @Achieving SuccessYou can find John Marvin:LinkedIn: John MarvinEmail: jdmarvin@tso.comBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/achieving-success-with-olivia-atkin--5743662/support.

In this THINK Business Mini Business Course, Jon Dowskin and John Marvin, President/CEO, TSO, Inc. discuss setting intentions. Get valuable, expert insight you can put into practice today! Watch the full episode Connect with Jon Dwoskin: Twitter: @jdwoskin Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.dwoskin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejondwoskinexperience/ Website: https://jondwoskin.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jondwoskin/ Email: jon@jondwoskin.com Get Jon's Book: The Think Big Movement: Grow your business big. Very Big!   Connect with John Marvin: Website: www.tso.com X: https://www.twitter.com/JohnDMarvinTX Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jdmarvin LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jdmarvin/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jdmarvin                 *E – explicit language may be used in this podcast.

Sometimes the real risk is not taking a leap - it's staying exactly where you are…In this episode, I sit down with John Marvin, a business leader and personal growth advocate who's spent decades transforming companies and challenging people to think bigger. John went from working in healthcare marketing to leading a 90-year-old brand into a new era & along the way, he realised that most people aren't stuck because of lack of opportunity… they're stuck because of fear.We talk about why playing it safe feels comfortable but kills growth, how to break out of mental loops that keep you small, and why you don't need to have it all figured out to start making changes now.TOPICS:The fear of change & how it limits personal growthThe power of mindset & daily discipline in creating long-term successThe impact of your environment & relationships on your ability to evolveMORE FROM NICK:Book a FREE call here to learn about the Move Your Mind Program: https://tinyurl.com/yc3zmu35Find all links here: https://nickbracks.start.page/Sign up to the website: nickbracks.comConnect with Nick on Instagram, Twitter & LinkedInMORE FROM JOHN:https://www.linkedin.com/in/jdmarvin/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

John Marvin grew up in Kansas as a member of a family with significant medical experience. John's father, for example, was a family physician in a small Western Kansas town. John describes some about his life and how his thoughts and attitudes were greatly influenced by his father. Late in his high school career John told his dad that he did not want to grow up to be a doctor because, as he put it, he didn't want to work as hard as his father worked. John will explain that to us. As he also put it, his comment came from a young naïve boy.   In college John settled on securing a marketing degree. After college he ended up going deeply into marketing and eventually he entered the optical industry specializing in optometry.   John and I have some wonderful discussions about self growth, leadership and how to help people and companies grow. I got, and I think you will get, many great ideas from John's experiences and that we all will be the better for what John has to say and teach us.       About the Guest:   John D. Marvin is an entrepreneur and dynamic leader with a proven track record of success in healthcare, wellness, and the eyecare industry. As President and CEO of Texas State Optical (TSO), he has transformed the organization into one of the largest and most respected networks of independent optometrists in the United States, generating upwards of $110 million in annual revenue. With over two decades of experience at TSO, John has cultivated a member-owned cooperative that empowers optometrists to operate independently while benefiting from robust centralized support. His leadership has been pivotal in fostering a culture of innovation, professional growth, and exceptional patient care. John's career spans over 40 years, during which he has held executive roles across various industries, including marketing, consulting, and healthcare. His entrepreneurial spirit is evident in his strategic leadership during TSO's transition from a retail chain to a cooperative network in 2001. Under his guidance, TSO shifted its focus from product-driven services to comprehensive medical eyecare, reinforcing its reputation as a patient-centered organization. Beyond TSO, John serves as President of Texas Eyecare Partners and Health and Wellness Consulting. As a lifelong advocate of personal growth, John has studied the transformative power of mindset and the “inner game” of success. His insights into leadership, achievement, and business management have made him a sought-after speaker and certified John Maxwell Professional Coach. John passionately shares his experiences to inspire others to unlock their potential, offering actionable strategies to overcome challenges and drive meaningful change. John's dedication to education and collaboration is evident in his efforts to support emerging professionals in the field of optometry. He has fostered strong relationships with the University of Houston's College of Optometry and the Texas Optometric Association, contributing to scholarships, professional development programs, and initiatives that promote medical optometry. Through his vision and unwavering commitment to excellence, John D. Marvin exemplifies the principles of leadership, empowerment, and innovation, making a lasting impact on the eyecare industry and beyond. Ways to connect John:   https://www.facebook.com/jdmarvin  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jdmarvin/  https://www.instagram.com/jdmarvin/ https://tso.com/   About the Host:   Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog.   Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards.   https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/   accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/   https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/       Thanks for listening!   Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? 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Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson ** 01:21 Well, hello, everyone. Once again, wherever you happen to be, I'm your host on unstoppable mindset, Mike Hingson, or you can call me Mike, whichever you prefer. And our guest today is John D Marvin. John is an entrepreneur. Has been an entrepreneur for quite a while, and he has been involved in a number of different kind of endeavors over his life. And he's worked, worked in the eye care industry a bunch, and is now in charge of Texas State Optical. We're going to learn more about that and and all the other things I don't know whether I care, does me a whole lot of good directly, but it's fun to talk about anyway. No, no doubt. So John, I want to really welcome you. I'm glad we finally made this work. I'm glad we got a chance to connect. So welcome to unstoppable mindset.   John D Marvin ** 02:13 Well, thank you, Mike. It's a real pleasure to be here.   Michael Hingson ** 02:15 Well, I'm glad that we we get a chance to really talk. We haven't really done too many podcasts on eye care and optical stuff, so I'm glad to be able to do it. But I'd like to start, as I'd love to do so often, tell us about kind of the early John growing up, and go from there.   John D Marvin ** 02:33 Okay, I was born and raised in Kansas. I that that's northern Texas, right? That's northern Texas. That's right, yeah, I actually grew up in western Kansas. I was born in Kansas City, but I grew up in western Kansas, and my father is a family physician, and had the kind of stereotypical country doctor practice small town, 2000 people, and my mother was his office manager for a number of years. And so it was a kind of a family business. And I have three siblings, sisters, and so we grew up in a small Mayberry type town, and it was great riding bicycles till the street lights came on at night, and catching fireflies and all that kind of good stuff. And then I decided to go to school. I chose to go to school in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and graduated, it's an emphasis in marketing and marketing and business administration, and ended up in the ad agency business for a little bit of a time, and just kind of really decided that wasn't for me, and ended up from there going into pharmaceutical sales. And really enjoyed that, and enjoyed the the outside sales aspects of it and calling on doctors. And my territory was western Kansas, so I used to say, and still refer to it as my territory looked like my high school football schedule. So we would go to these small towns. And of course, most everyone out there knew my father, and so the typical problem of trying to get past the front desk was made a little easier because people knew my family, and from that, I ended up taking an administrative, marketing administrators position with a group of surgeons in in Wichita, and that led to introduction and eating some ophthalmologists in Houston. Them and followed a job opportunity I had with them and came to Houston in 1989 I've been here ever since, but it was after four years of working with them, I ended up going out on my own and started my own business, which was Marketing Management Group, which did consumer research, and then we would develop marketing strategies based on that. And one of my clients, early clients, was Texas State Optical. And because of my background in eye care, both in Wichita, Kansas and in Houston, I had a better I got some insight into the consumer. And so the work I did with Texas State Optical was a lot we did a lot of work, and did several studies with them, and that kind of introduced me to the whole group of franchisees that made up the Texas State Optical organization. Subsequently, I helped them organize, the franchisees organize, and in the late 90s, 1999 I was hired by the franchisees to put together a Franchise Association, and through that, ultimately help them acquire the company, purchase it, and from that during that process, was asked if I would be willing to come on board as the new president of the company once they purchased it. And that was in 2001 and I've been president ever since. So here you go. It kind of takes you from Small Town Living to big city operations and a network of about 100 optometry offices.   Michael Hingson ** 06:47 So what exactly is Texas State Optical? Or maybe first, what was it and how is it morphed over time?   John D Marvin ** 06:56 Well, originally it was founded by four brothers in 1936 in Southeast Texas, little town called Beaumont, and famous for a lot of things in that part of the state. One of them is Janis Joplin, the others, Big Bopper and George Jones and but it also was the birthplace of Texas State Optical. And they grew a network of privately owned they owned them all over 300 locations throughout Texas, Mexico, Oklahoma and Arkansas, Louisiana and and then in the early 70s, they sold it to a pharmaceutical company, ironically, the same one that I had worked for when I was calling on western Kansas. But when they sold it, it got converted to a traditional franchise model, and it stayed that way until the franchisees purchased it in 2001 when we I was involved, and we turned it into a brand license business, taking that iconic license that had been around Texas optical since the 30s, 1930s and and then turning around and licensing the use of that brand to young optometrist who wanted to own their own practice, but saw the use of that brand as kind of instant credibility, because a lot of people were familiar with that brand.   Michael Hingson ** 08:40 So what does it provide? What did one of the organization provide under the brand? Well,   John D Marvin ** 08:46 we use the use of the brand, and so you got immediate notoriety in terms of just people's awareness of it, but also we put together kind of a la carte menu of optional services and support and resources that licensees could either take advantage of or not, and it was a really hands off model. We didn't have any, and still don't have any operational control over the way business was done. We We influenced that through best practices and sharing of information, but certainly we didn't require have any requirements of the way that they would operate. Reality is most private practice optometrists operate pretty well, and so we were there to kind of coach and help, but mainly it was them using our brand name, which had a really strong consumer value to it.   Michael Hingson ** 09:44 And so what kind of changes when the franchisees all joined together and bought the company and so on? How have you and they changed it over the years.   John D Marvin ** 09:59 I. I think the biggest change from 1999 to 2001 when they bought it, and to this day, has been the culture of the company. And that is, you know, it's something of a franchise opportunity, yeah, and a lot of your listeners probably either own franchises. Thought about franchises, and you know, it might you and I spent the next year trying to decide we were going to own a franchise. And we'd go out and do all sorts of research, and we'd look into this one and that one, and what kind of industry we want, and we'd finally select one that we were really impressed with. Thought about for great opportunity. We'd pay our $50,000 franchise fee, and about the second or third day of owning that franchise, we would decide that these people don't know anything about this business that we're in, and there's just this inherent adversarial relationship that exists between a franchisee and a franchisor. Some for good reason, some just because of the independent, entrepreneurial nature of a franchisee. Well, when the franchisees owned the company, they owned the franchise, or that adversarial dynamic kind of left. And so now there's nobody to kind of blame except yourself, and people are inclined not to do that as much. And so there was a greater tendency to kind of work together, work through things, come up with solutions to problems or resources that were needed. And it just created a much more homogeneous type of culture, and to the point where our annual meeting we host every year is referred to as our family reunion. And so we gather everyone together. It's really an atmosphere of all of us being as one family, sharing the same kind of core values, and all out to do the same thing, and that is just provide great quality eye care for our communities. And so that, that is a big change. Of course, there's always the things like collective purchasing, education and training. The main difference in those areas are engagement. When you are asked by a franchisor to engage in certain activities, there's that inherent reluctance to do that in our organization. There's an inherent acceptance of it because it comes from a colleague, it comes from others and doctors are more leading doctors than they are being led by some set of suits someplace in the Northeast.   Michael Hingson ** 12:50 Yeah, and that is such an extremely important thing to be able to really make it a family, a disciplined family, but still a family nevertheless, which is kind of cool. I'm curious about something being blind, and having been blind my whole life, and involved with blindness consumer organizations, one of the things that we have found often is that most people in the eye care industry, primarily in the ophthalmological industry, which is kind of a little bit more relevant to us, but tend not to really have a lot of knowledge about blindness and blind people. And so, for example, there are so many stories of a person going into the office of an ophthalmologist, for example, maybe they're losing their eyesight, but the ophthalmologist examines them and for whatever reason, will say things like, you're going blind. I'm sorry, there's nothing I can do, and walk out and never provide any other kinds of resources or knowledge to help the person who's losing eyesight. I don't know whether you see that, given where you are or what your thoughts are on that, but I'd be interested to get your thoughts because it seems to me that there's a lot of opportunity to do significant education about blindness and low vision to recognize that the reality is, blindness isn't the problem. It's people's attitudes traditionally that are the problem.   John D Marvin ** 14:28 That's an excellent point. Mike, I you know my first thoughts are the profession of optometry is really involved in preventing right blindness, and so it's kind of one of the few areas of healthcare that is more prevention oriented than other areas. Most areas are treatment oriented. In other words, you become sick. And then we treat you right, and the profession of optometry is all about we talk to people all the time about protecting your vision and preventing problems from happening. Now, as we see patients that end up either through glaucoma or some form of pathology, retinal issues, start to lose their vision. There comes a point early in that process where they are, frankly, they are outside of the scope of care that an optometrist can provide. So they end up being referred to an ophthalmologist. That being said, there are several optometrists across the country that have decided to devote themselves to low vision, and that's kind of a form of blind and what I would call blindness care, and where it's not complete, there is some level of vision there, but it needs a lot of enhancement, either through equipment or through other types of therapeutics practices. And there are optometrists who say, I'm not going to sell glasses. I'm not going to focus on contacts. I'm going to just provide a low vision clinic. And they're not not there's not a large number of them, but there are some, and what I've experienced in that is it does take a particular type of practitioner to be successful with that. And when I say successful, I mean, to be able to establish the type of patient doctor relationship that actually produces some really positive outcomes and helps people better manage their loss of vision, either whether that's progressive and eventually will become complete, or whether It's stalled at a point where they just cannot function without special aid, like I said, equipment, or some type of therapeutics. And there's just not a lot of people go into Optometry for the refractive side of things, and and so there's, there's not that motivation, really, to learn much about it. We do as an organization. We're very involved with prevent blindness as a national organization, and we'd also have some involvement with low vision clinics that are in the Houston Medical Center. But outside of that, you're right. There's not a whole lot of folks that understand it, probably, or maybe it's just they don't have the patience for it, because it does require a different kind of patient care approach, even   Michael Hingson ** 17:55 so what I wonder is, if there is an opportunity, maybe to provide additional education, so that if your your franchisees, for example, encounter a person who's losing eyesight and they and they realize that that they can help refer them to sources or resources that can assist because part of the problem is that, typically in society, blindness is viewed as such a horrible, devastating thing. And I understand that eyesight is a very wonderful thing, and people want to have it, but the reality is for a variety of reasons that doesn't work for everyone. The problem is that we have so much fear of blindness that we don't tend to deal with and I just wonder if there might be a way to provide some sort of a system or program that would help teach your people that blindness isn't really the end of the world, which is not to say, don't try to prevent it if you can, but when you can't, you can also be an additional source. To say, here are places where you can go, or here are some things that you can learn.   John D Marvin ** 19:16 Well, I do think that it's important, and I'm aware of many, keeping in mind that our members who own locations that use our brand are independent, we have provided them local organizations, clinics, things like that, which help them in referring people that need that kind of help and in education, I think also an important factor is that it's not just the patient that can use that it's the patient's family, because it, while it's perceived as something that you know you. I know that people value their sight, and the thought of losing it and becoming blind is is frightening the individual, but it also is frightening and disruptive to family, who father, mother, wife, husband, son or daughter, to deal with the changes in lifestyle that are required to accommodate that. Loss of vision is significant. You mentioned you've been blind since birth, and that's certainly one group of people, but there's an awful lot of people that end up experiencing blindness when they're in their 30s or 40s, after they've had a large portion of their life with vision. And it's, I don't want to say it's easier by any means. I first of all, I have no right in even suggesting that, but it's a different experience, for sure, not ever having had vision, versus having had it for a number of years and then losing it. And sometimes it might be as scary and frightening for the family around that person as it is the patient themselves. And so we do place a high value on getting people the kind of help and resources they need to better adjust to those changes.   Michael Hingson ** 21:28 Well, when I was born, I actually became blind because of what we now call retinopathy or prematurity, which originally was retro enterofibroplasia, which is harder to spell, but I love the term anyway. At about four months of age, it was discovered that I was blind, and the doctors told my parents they ought to just send me off to a home, because no blind child could ever grow up to be a contributor to society, and all I would do would be a drain on the family and then later on society. And my parents were very unusual in taking the stand that, no, you're wrong. He can grow up to do whatever he wants, and we're going to give him that opportunity. And that was, and really to a very large degree today, still is, a very unusual attitude to take, because we fear blindness so much, and while I appreciate the reality of eyesight is very important for most people, what I would love to see are ways to create more of an understanding so that People understand that blindness isn't the end of the world, and that's what what we see all too often in society in general, which is unfortunate, and you're right. I don't know whether it's easier if you're blind from the outset or become blind later in life. I know any number of people who became blind later in life, who went to programs where philosophically, they were taught blindness was not a problem, and they learned that they could continue to be contributors to society, and they tend to intend to Do that, as opposed to many others from both camps and from birth or not who never understand. Blindness isn't going to be the end of the road if people let it be. So it's it's just one of those conundrums that we end up having to deal with on a regular basis.   John D Marvin ** 23:38 The name of your podcast dealing with mindset, right? A lot of it is exactly that. And if you're find yourself in a you know, the child who's born blind can either have a support system and family and parents that impact his his or her mindset in a way that creates the expectation and understanding that it it doesn't have to be limiting. And same goes with someone who's blind later in life, right? It's a matter of how you look at and decide for yourself. I mean, we all know people that, whether it's a loss of a one of the most five senses, the important senses, sight or hearing, so forth, there is a natural mind. There's one set of mind people that have a mindset that, oh, poor you. Now you've got insurmountable challenges in your life, and this is going to be difficult the rest of your life. And then the other mindset that many parents have recognizing their opportunity they have with their child is to say, yes, that's you. But that doesn't have to define you, that doesn't limit you. You can overcome those things and and I think that that is even in our business, where you have someone who comes into the office and through some type of diagnostic testing, it's determined that they are losing their sight, and that the natural outcome of this progression of pathology will be the total loss of sight. We have the opportunity there, at that point, to affect their mindset, yeah, and to either tell them this is a circumstance that will not limit you or define you, and here are some resources and education materials and opportunities in that area that can help you better understand what you're living with and how that you can overcome that, just from the census standpoint, because It doesn't have to be something you have to overcome in life, per se. It just has to be an accommodation you make, because you can't see when other people can right. And it is all about mindset.   Michael Hingson ** 26:13 It is all about mindset. No doubt about it, you're absolutely correct in that regard. And it is, it is something that we'll all be dealing with for a while, but hopefully over time, the mindset of people will change to recognize that there are always alternatives. Being a Star Trek fan, I love Spock and Kirk who are always talking about there are always options, and there are always ways to get around doing things or to accomplish things that you might not think about, but you have to be multi dimensional in your thought process.   John D Marvin ** 26:52 Well, the other exciting aspect of all of this is the the fact that those with growth mindsets are working diligently on technologies that can actually supplant the deficiency and come up with ways to correct blindness. And so there we may even, in our lifetime, live to a point where the pathological condition that you were born with doesn't have to be permanent. It can be reversed using technology that provides you with as good, if not better, vision than people who weren't born in that same situation.   Michael Hingson ** 27:33 Yeah, the only people who never will come out of it are politicians, because they take dumb pills when they become politicians. So we can pick up them.   John D Marvin ** 27:40 Well, listen, just you could be blind and still be able to see, right? Yeah, that   Michael Hingson ** 27:47 leaves them out. Yeah. No, I understand. I understand they're fun to pick on. But you what? What really made you decide to go into the eye care industry, into that, that whole environment, what, what attracted you to it, or was it just sort of so natural? Well, obviously, that's a mindset. Yeah,   John D Marvin ** 28:10 there's a couple of things. Think the thing that attracted me to kind of eye care in general, and put ophthalmology and Optometry in the same bucket for this. What attracted me to was this whole area of health care that I kind of grew up in with my father and family practice in a small town. Because, you know, my family practice in the 60s and 70s was a whole different discipline than it is today. Oh, I know, you know, especially in a small town where the closest specialist, if you would, is 90 miles away. And so my father had to be what we call today, functionally, you know, a functional medicine, meaning that he had to be able to kind of treat the whole person. I mean, he used to be very proud of the fact that a large percentage of the kids that were in the school that I grew up in, he delivered and so, you know, there was no obstetrician in this small town. So if a woman became pregnant, then he provided her prenatal care. He gave, he delivered the child, and then he gave the provided the pediatric care afterwards. And so having that sense of kind of the global care of of someone kind of gave me a real appreciation for the kind of the system, the the systemic aspects of health. And when I was given an opportunity to get into the eye care business. Because I saw it more as getting into the healthcare business, and even though it was very narrow, defined in eye care, it gave me a connection. And I I'm a big believer that you start down a path and you follow it. And what maybe forest and trees and gardens, they may turn into desert or mountains or valleys or otherwise. So when I started, I really didn't know necessarily where it would go. And I guess you could even back it up and say that my whole entry into the pharmaceutical industry kind of started me down that path and and then that led to being in the practitioner side, which ultimately led to going from ophthalmology into Optometry. I frankly think that all of that background best prepared me to do what I'm doing today, and understanding the whole system of eye care, not just refractions and glasses and contacts, right?   Michael Hingson ** 31:11 Well, you know, and you started out in in the whole marketing world, as opposed to going off and becoming a doctor directly, which which gave you a different perspective. So it really makes sense as to what you're saying and it but you've had exposure to both sides, and that has to really help you in terms of doing the job that you've chosen to do.   John D Marvin ** 31:38 Yeah, I think you're right. I remember having the discussion with my father because as I was like a junior in high school and, and as most juniors you know, you start thinking about what you're going to do when you graduate high school and, and I was graduating high school at a time that I had a draft number given to me, there was a war over in Vietnam that was still going on, and so I, you know, there for a period of time, I didn't know whether I would even have a choice. Yeah, it turns out by the time I actually that last year between junior and senior, the war had really started to wind down. And while I got a draft number, it was very high, and the likelihood of me actually being drafted into service was very low. And so I made some decisions about what I was going to do post high school, and I remember having the discussion with my father about would he be disappointed if I decided I didn't want to be a physician? And he assured me that he wouldn't be disappointed, but he was curious as to why I was not interested in doing that, and I told him, I said, just to be candid, I don't know if I want to work as hard as you do, because at that time, I had spent many Christmases with him, not at home, even though, our town, I mean, you could almost walk to the hospital. Our Town was small enough that, but he was taking care of people in the hospital on Christmas Day or delivering a baby on Christmas Day, and he just, you know, it was clear that in that profession, the way he practiced it in those days was that the patients came first, and the family understood that. And we were all in the doctor business to in that respect, and this whole concept of work life balance was, you know, no one looked at things like that. I mean, everyone understood that this was a commitment that had been made, and it involved the entire family. So I told him, I said, I don't know if I'm willing to do that or not. And so I thought at that time, I decided that I was going to pursue a career in theology, and so that determined where I went to school. And about after my first year in school, I the university I had chosen, their whole theological department was more pastoral, and I wasn't interested in that. I was more evangelical. I was more interested in being an evangelist and and so I not having that in front of me. I decided that it switched to a marketing degree. And it turns out that to be a pretty good evangelist, you got to be a little bit of a marketing person yourself. Anyway, true. So, so I ended up going down that path.   Michael Hingson ** 34:53 Well, I would say if you had chosen the pastoral approach, you would have been working just. Just hard as a doctor. Oh, very much. So, yeah, but I guess I would also ask this whole issue of not working as hard given what you do today, how's that working out for you? Well,   John D Marvin ** 35:14 those were words of a very naive young guy. Yeah, because I didn't take I didn't understand the fact that if you're going to accomplish anything, it's going to require hard work, and you need a family that understands what your what your passion is, and what you've decided to do, and because it is, I mean, no one builds a career by themselves. They they build a career with the involvement and support of other people, and if, if they, if those beliefs aren't aligned, then you're going to end up in conflict and be constantly be torn between what it is you believe you're wanting to do with your life, versus your obligations, your other obligations. And put it   Michael Hingson ** 36:04 that way, well, you've been involved in the whole mindset and activity of being a business leader for a long time. What kind of key lessons have you learned along the way about personal growth?   John D Marvin ** 36:21 I think the thank you for that question. I think the one thing that I have learned, that I've tried to pass on to people is start, begin we I think that we naturally have this reluctance to take risk, because we don't want to fail at anything and and so we kind of take the approach that, well, if I want to pursue something, whether it be personal development or growth or even some profession, I need to know everything there is to know about it before I start it. And that is just not true. The only way you learn is by starting I have a friend and acquaintance who his career and his profession is leading people on climbs of Mount Everest. So that's his job. If you want to climb Mount Everest, I can hook you up with a guy that will help you do it. And it's a fascinating profession that he's in. And I asked him one time, how do you learn how to climb mountains. You know, how do you learn this? He said the only way to learn how to climb mountains is by climbing   Michael Hingson ** 37:46 mountains. I was gonna say, to do it, yes. And   John D Marvin ** 37:49 so I think the number one thing is to start. And if you're committed to it and you start, you'll figure it out. The rest of it, because there are no failures, there's maybe a setback or two, but as long as you keep focused on where you want to be and moving forward and getting better and learning, you'll figure things out. And I think so personal growth is really a decision and a commitment to continual learning, continual improvement and and you're never too late to get started. It's never too late, even if you're at 80 some years of age and maybe limited health wise, you can still start because there's so much, there's so many different resources today that are available to people. I mean, I got an iPad Mike, that's, I bet you I've got three 400 books on it. And, you know, used to be you couldn't have three or 400 books without a library in your house. Now you can have one iPad on a memory card. And I was just, I had a doctor's appointment earlier today, and while I was waiting in the reception, I pulled out my phone and I started reading a book that I'm reading, you know, and I had, didn't have to carry the book The lot of people do, lot of people have, but I was able to do that. And then there's what's available in terms of resources, of books to read are just unlimited. So I think that there's, there's all sorts of opportunities, just a matter of getting started and doing it. Second is consistency. Everybody can start. Few people can be consistent, or few people are consistent. We all know the classic, never if you're if you're someone who goes to a gym and works out, you know. Avoid that gem the first month of the year in January, because it is overrun with people who are starting their new year, and then by February, you also know that you're back to normal, because most people don't stay consistent. So starting and then becoming consistent are the two things that are probably most important, that I've learned   Michael Hingson ** 40:25 well, and that kind of leads to something I was thinking about, and that is the connection between mindset and long term achievement. Because it would seem to me that, as you point out with the gym, the people who create the mindset that I'm going to do this and really decide that that's what they're going to do, are more likely to have analyzed it and made that decision intelligently and then we'll stick with it, than people who just go off and say, I'm going to do it, but really haven't established A mindset, right?   John D Marvin ** 40:59 That's exactly true. And you know, people tend to focus on volume as opposed to continuity. And what I mean by that is people go to the gym and they they put all this intensity into the first day they haven't worked out in weeks or months, or even maybe a few years, and then the next day they're so sore they can't get out of bed and they can't so they decide they're going to take the next day off rest, and then that turns into a week off. And I'm a student of John Maxwell, the author, and he talks about what he calls the rule of five, and he illustrates it by saying that if you have a tree in your backyard that you're wanting to take out, you can take an ax and you can go out there and you can swing that Ax five times, and put down the ax and come back tomorrow morning, hit it five times. Come back tomorrow morning, hit it five times. And over a period of time, that tree will come down, or you can go out there and just try to chop and chop and chop, and that tree will defeat you, because you will run out of energy and you'll be too tired to finish it, but if you'll just be consistent over a time with the rule of five, and he talks about it in any profession, if you want to get good at it, figure out what are the five things you need to do every single day to grow in that direction and to accomplish what you need to accomplish. And so I think that you're right that over a period of time, long term success is not done through intensity. It's done through consistency. And he also says, you know, you're never going to change anything in your life until you change what you do daily? And that is very, very true.   Michael Hingson ** 43:09 I know I haven't really been the greatest at doing a lot of exercising and so on, and a lot of walking, and especially here in the winter, it gets really cold, and so I tend not to do it. But what I figured out, actually, a couple of years ago was we have a wonderful, great room with an island in the middle of it, and I will just put on a book and listen to it and do laps around the bar, and I'll get up to 10 and 15,000 steps a day just walking around the bar. Now it's not going uphill and downhill, but still a lot of good exercise. And I find that not only does that work, but I enjoy it, because I get to read at the same time or do other things. Of course, my dog probably thinks I'm nuts, and my cat, my cat avoids me. But by the same token, you know, it is exercise, and I found that I have no problem really doing that every day, absolutely.   John D Marvin ** 44:12 And you know, we we live in a gym, yeah, and whether it's your room, your great room with an island, or whether it's a backyard or your neighborhood, we lived in a gym. I think that was illustrated in one of the Rocky movies really well when he was held up in northern Russia and just worked out using the materials that were with him. And so there really is no excuse to doing something, and doing something is better than doing nothing at all, and doing something every day will deliver unbelievable results over time.   Michael Hingson ** 44:59 It's a. All about establishing the mindset. Yes, it is. Well, you know, you've done this work for a long time. What kind of advice would you give to people starting out to help them get the mindset and achieve what they want to do with their goals?   John D Marvin ** 45:19 Well, first of all, I think developing and writing a personal growth plan, and I mean writing, setting down and starting, for instance, I made a decision several years ago that I wanted to get better at communication. So that was a decision. And the side of all the things that I wanted to try to commit to developing or growing in or learning, I picked communication. Why did you want as one of it? Because I felt like it was extremely important that you never accomplish, or I didn't believe that I was going to accomplish what I wanted to in life without the ability to communicate well with others, whether that be my spouse or whether it be the people I work with the customers I serve. I wanted to be good at communicating. I wanted to become good at that. I also had a friend tell me one time said, you know, if you will read five books on any subject, you'll know more about that subject than 99% of the people. And so I decided, Okay, I'm going to find five books on communication, and I'm going to commit myself to reading those over the course of the next year. And I just, you know, went out and started trying to determine what are really good books about communication. Some of them I kind of knew, like How to Win Friends and Influence People. That was one that I knew. Okay, I'm going to put that one on the list. Now I need four more, and one of them I knew that John Maxwell had written. So I you know, everybody communicates, but few people connect, and I said, Okay, I'm going to be another one. So I just kind of put together my little library of five books, and I started so I had developed very narrow and limited, but I had developed my own personal growth plan as relates to communication. So as I would tell my grandson, or I would tell a friend, if you want to start on developing a mindset and developing personal growth, sit down and make a plan for what you're going to do. And it's interesting, because if you'll ask people, tell me about your and I do this with people who work for me, and when I'm hiring, tell me about your personal growth plan. What is your personal growth plan? And you know, most people don't even know what I'm talking about, so they start making stuff up, and it becomes real obvious that they don't have one. From my employees, I require that as a part of their job and their annual performance review, we go over their personal growth plan. I want them to become more valuable over the course of this next year, because to themselves, because if they do, then they become more valuable to the company, right? And so I would instruct somebody to sit down and start and make a plan and identify something you want to be better at and and start growing in those areas that that described as starting with communication, has grown now to seven different areas in my life, and I've got at least five, in some cases, more books in each of those areas. And so I've got a very busy personal growth plan that I I work on each year.   Michael Hingson ** 49:12 Do you find that, as you read books on these subjects, as you're dealing with your personal growth, that in reality, you know a lot of the stuff already, at least to a degree. But by the same token, reading what others have written tends to drive the point home a whole lot more. And I ask that from the standpoint of common sense.   John D Marvin ** 49:40 Well, I think so. I mean how to win, which   Michael Hingson ** 49:42 doesn't mean that you don't learn things from the books, but, but a lot of it is, is stuff that you Intuit   John D Marvin ** 49:50 Yeah, I think that you know, a great example that comes to mind is How to Win Friends And yes, people that book, if you read it, it's like, well, yeah, naturally. Of course, but if you read it and you focus, you know, if you read it with the attitude, I want to learn something from this, then you begin to internalize what you're reading. And as you internalize it, you develop more cognitive, a cognitive awareness of it. And what I find super interesting is that book is on my list every year, so I commit myself to read that book every year. So now you know, this year will be probably my 15th, 16th time reading it. What I find fascinating is, I'll read the same chapter I've read, and I'll learn something new, something new, yeah, each time. Because, much like the saying about you can't step in the same stream twice, because it's not the same stream and you're not the same person. Same goes with reading material. You can read that book a second time, and you'll get something out of it, because you're not the same person that you were the first time you read it. And as you mature in your understanding, you get more knowledge out of the reading. Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 51:17 Which? Which makes perfect sense, which also says a lot about the quality of the author. But you're right. You will always, if you look for new things to learn, you'll find new things to learn absolutely, which is what makes it so cool. And I I tell people all the time, and I'm not sure they always understand it. If I'm not learning at least as much as anybody else by being involved in this podcast, then I'm not doing my job. Because I believe every episode gives me as much, if not more, of an opportunity to learn as guests or all the people who listen, which is why I think it's so much fun, because I think that learning is as fun as it gets.   John D Marvin ** 52:05 It is, I mean, you're absolutely right, you know, they also, there's a you never learn anything quite as well as when you have to teach it, yeah, you know. And in a way, by hosting a podcast, your your preparation for it, you're setting down, your concentration on it forces you to absorb from every interview that you do, and you can't help but walk away with being different than it was when you sat down to start it. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 52:42 one of my favorite books is a science fiction book written by Robert Heinlein. It's called the Moon is a Harsh Mistress. And I don't know whether you read my science fiction. I   John D Marvin ** 52:52 don't, but that sounds interesting. So   Michael Hingson ** 52:54 the basic premise is, it takes place in 2075 there's a hint, and it's all about the moon, which is being controlled by the lunar authority on earth. And it really parallels the American Revolution. The difference is that a computer on the moon, as they put it, wakes up and helps in doing the revolution that eventually gets Moon free from the earth, but one of the major characters is Professor Bernardo dela Paz, who is a teacher. And one of the things that the that the storyteller describes on a regular basis is how Professor dela Paz can teach on basically any subject, as long as he stays at least one lesson ahead of the people who he's teaching, which often does. So he teaches so many different things, but all he does is works to stay just a little bit ahead of the people that he's teaching, so that he can go back and teach it, and of course, as as you and I would say when he's teaching it, he also learns a whole lot more. But I think it's such a clever book.   John D Marvin ** 54:11 It sounds like it science fiction, but if I if that, when that strikes me that'll be one I put down to read.   Michael Hingson ** 54:23 I think it's the I believe it's high lines better. His best book. A lot of people talk about another one called Stranger in a Strange Land, which is about Mars and the earth. But I think that the Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Was his best book, most imaginative book, which is kind of fun, yeah, but you know, it's, it's, it's just one of those things that I've just it's always stuck with me that dela Paz did that well. So over the time, being the president and CEO of Texas State Optical, i. Uhm, how has that shaped or changed your your views on leadership? Because I'm sure you've, you've had lots to do and lots to think about. I'm sure it's had an effect on you.   John D Marvin ** 55:12 Yeah, I, I think the biggest impact has been it's, it's of what it's required of me in in developing my leadership abilities and deep and making those abilities effective towards an outcome. And let me try to shed on that I mentioned earlier. I'm a student of Maxwell, and Maxwell has a definition of leadership is influence, and and he said leadership is is influence. It's nothing more than that. And, and so at first I didn't know what that meant. And then, as he goes on to explain, and it makes sense, oftentimes, you will, the leadership is not a matter of title. It's not a matter of position. Leadership is influence and the ability to influence. And you can walk into a room and you will observe the group, and in one corner, maybe somebody that is obviously the focus of the attention of the others, and that person is exerting leadership influence. They may not be the may not have title, and they may not be in any position of authority over the others, but the others will follow that person, because that person has influence on them. And so I've in my understanding of that, and then trying to live that I've seen that develop in my own ability. And then I have to sit down and say, okay, if I'm going to be a leader of my team, my executives that will report to me, how am I going to provide that influence. And so you begin to break that down and try to figure out because everyone's different. I mean, I I have four people that report to me, each one of them, I will have to affect and influence those people differently. And it starts with understanding them. And so what it's done is it's helped me to really understand that principle that offered by Maxwell, and then how to incorporate that into my life, so that I feel now confident in my ability to be a leader of any group or situation I find myself in, and I've just agreed to accept a new responsibility in a trade association, and I have confidence that I can provide a strong level of leadership, not because I'm the smartest person in the room, but because I have the ability of providing influence over that organization or in that group through better understanding of others that I Have a position over, so to speak. But you know, it's like the best arenas to develop leadership is a volunteer organization, because that's the only way you're going to get anything done, is to have influence, because these people don't have to do anything that you say. And so oftentimes, if you have the authority, you misuse it, and you provide nothing in the way of leadership to a group. That happens all the time.   Michael Hingson ** 59:13 I think that too many, and I use the term in quotes, leaders, think that the whole idea is that they're the boss. Well, bosses are not necessarily leaders, and you're right. Leaders are not necessarily bosses. Directly. It is all about influence. And unfortunately, all too often, the people who have influence may not be the designated leader, but then the leaders or bosses get jealous of those people, which is also extremely unfortunate they don't get it.   John D Marvin ** 59:45 It's a it can be threatening if you're a boss and you've got people that are supposed to report to you and they're listening or being influenced by someone else who may not be. Intentionally trying to subvert the boss. It's just they, they're more effective in that and so that's threatening. And so oftentimes, given that authority, they misuse it. And   Michael Hingson ** 1:00:15 the good leaders, however, when they see that happening, will try to go and understand from in part, the person who's the real influencer, what it is that they need to improve on to be able to be more effective. But that happens so rarely, by comparison to the number of people who are out there.   John D Marvin ** 1:00:38 Yeah, it's too often politics, and I don't mean that in the government sense, but corporate politics determines positions of authority, and you end up with a bunch of very ill equipped people with an awful lot of leadership responsibilities, but lacking in any kind of real leadership skill,   Michael Hingson ** 1:01:02 yeah, which is something that we need to devote more time to teaching, but people also need to be willing to learn it, and that gets to be a challenge. Well, I have to tell you, this has been fun, and I know you have other things to do in the course of the day and enjoying the weather down there, so I want to let you go, but I really have enjoyed having you on and I've enjoyed all the different insights that you've brought. So I really appreciate you being here to do all of that. So maybe we'll have it again. That would be kind of fun.   John D Marvin ** 1:01:41 Well, my I've thoroughly enjoyed this as I mean, you make it so easy to visit. You're You're a tremendous host and good interviewer, good questions. You threw a couple at me there that I had to really stop and think about. And so anytime you'd be willing to have me back. I'd love to join you again sometime.   Michael Hingson ** 1:02:02 Well, I want to thank you, and I want to thank all of you for listening and watching us today. We really appreciate you being here. I'd love to hear your thoughts on today and what we've talked about. You're welcome to email me. It's easy. It's Michael, M, I, C, H, A, E, L, H, I, at accessibe, A, C, C, E, S, S, I V, e.com, or go to our podcast page, which is at www dot Michael hingson.com/podcast, and Michael hingson is spelled M, I, C, H, A, E, L, H, I N, G, S O, n.com/podcast, if you know anyone else who you think ought to be a guest on our podcast, love to hear from you. We're always looking for more people to chat with. And in part, my motivation is I want to learn too. But the more people who come on, the more people we get to learn about who themselves are unstoppable. So please don't hesitate to refer people to it. And you know, John, you as well. We really value that wherever you listening, give us a five star rating. We value that. We appreciate your ratings and and love them. But once again, John, I want to thank you. This has been absolutely fun, and I'm glad you came   John D Marvin ** 1:03:13 well. Thank you. 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Today, I sat down with John D. Marvin, the president and CEO of Texas State Optical.We discuss the optometry business, the unique business model of Texas State Optical, and the importance of brand management and marketing strategies.John shares insights on the optometry industry, the challenges faced by new practitioners, and the strategic focus on Texas for growth.We touch on personal experiences and reflections on entrepreneurship, and the evolving landscape of corporate employment, particularly in the context of healthcare and optometry.John and I explore the balance between growth and value in business, the challenges posed by healthcare consolidation, and the importance of leadership as influence.John emphasizes the need for personal growth and a positive mindset, encouraging listeners to start their journey toward improvement and success.00:00 Introduction and Personal Background02:07 Overview of Texas State Optical05:01 Understanding the Optometry Business Model11:11 Marketing Strategies and Brand Management18:53 Strategic Focus on Texas25:02 Reflections on Industry Dynamics and Personal Insights26:32 The Shift in Corporate Employment and Loyalty30:15 Balancing Growth and Value in Business34:44 Navigating Healthcare Consolidation Challenges39:10 Leadership as Influence and Personal Growth45:51 The Importance of Starting and Continuous LearningGuest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jdmarvin/#12WeeksToPeak #PersonalDevelopment #SelfImprovement #GrowthMindset #LifeLessons Not for the mediocre majority: Learn how I get more done in a quarter than most achieve in a decade in 12 Weeks To Peak™ https://wesschaeffer.com/12wConnect with me:X -- https://X.com/saleswhispererInstagram -- https://instagram.com/saleswhispererLinkedIn -- http://www.linkedin.com/in/thesaleswhisperer/#12WeeksToPeak #SalesTraining #GoalSetting #PersonalDevelopment #LifeAdvice #GrowthMindset

How does a pharmaceutical sales job in Western Kansas lead to industry leadership in optical marketing? In this episode of Invest in Sqft, John Marvin shares his fascinating career journey—from breaking into ophthalmology to founding his own marketing management and consumer research firm. Discover timeless marketing fundamentals, customer engagement strategies, and key lessons for small business growth. Whether you're in the optical industry, an entrepreneur, or looking for actionable marketing insights, this episode is packed with real-world advice and success strategies you won't want to miss!

Today, I'm joined by John Marvin, and we're discussing Leading with Influence. John is a visionary entrepreneur, acclaimed columnist, and influential leader dedicated to empowering others to unlock their full potential. He is President and CEO of Texas State Optical, where he has cultivated a thriving business network while spearheading initiatives in health and wellness consulting and eye care partnerships. John has spent years studying the transformative power of mindset and the “inner game” in achieving success. I'm excited to have him on the show to talk about leading with influence. Show resources: TSO.com Sponsors: Cadre of Men Farrow Skin Care Salty Sailor Coffee Company Leader Connect The Qualified Leadership Series ____ Get all of Jon Rennie's bestselling leadership books for 15% off the regular price today! HERE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John Marvin is a visionary entrepreneur, acclaimed columnist, and influential leader dedicated to empowering others to unlock their full potential.   As President and CEO of Texas State Optical, John has cultivated a thriving business network while spearheading initiatives in health and wellness consulting and eye care partnerships.   He played a key role in helping young optometrists start their businesses, providing a "turnkey system" for setting up new practices, including real estate, construction, and operational guidance.   John emphasizes the importance of understanding the human element of leadership, including the lives of team members, to foster meaningful connections.   He engages in continual learning, setting goals for his reading and reflecting on what he learns each day.   John highlights that mistakes are a natural part of the learning process and should not stop someone from starting their journey.   Website: Texas State Optical LinkedIn: John Marvin   Check out our CEO Hack Buzz Newsletter–our premium newsletter with hacks and nuggets to level up your organization. Sign up HERE.  I AM CEO Handbook Volume 3 is HERE and it's FREE. Get your copy here: http://cbnation.co/iamceo3. Get the 100+ things that you can learn from 1600 business podcasts we recorded. Hear Gresh's story, learn the 16 business pillars from the podcast, find out about CBNation Architects and why you might be one and so much more. Did we mention it was FREE? Download it today!

Join us for a discussion about building systems in your business that develop trust with employees and customers. John D. Marvin is the President of TSO (Texas State Optical). One of my favorite parts of this interview was when he talked about the value of giving his time to his staff so he can learn about them and their needs. You can get the Magnetic Systems Method (and other systems guides) to find issues before they become expensive problems. 1. Perspective on Leadership John Marvin discusses his view of leadership, emphasizing that leadership is about influence rather than just authority or title. He believes leaders must be able to connect with and serve their team, building relationships based on trust and vulnerability. Marvin highlights the importance of active listening, empathy, and creating an environment where people feel comfortable being open and honest. 2. Building Relationships Through Intentional Presence He explains his approach to building strong relationships with his team, including regularly scheduled one-on-one meetings where he makes a point to be fully present and engaged. He discusses the importance of controlling one's own mindset and discipline to avoid distractions and truly listen. Marvin also shares how he follows up on commitments using digital tools to ensure he doesn't drop the ball. 3. Reflection and Personal Growth He describes his daily morning routine of reflection, where he reviews his personal and professional goals, affirmations, and contemplates ways to improve himself and the company. He also discusses his end-of-year review process, where he looks back on the past year's accomplishments and challenges to identify areas for growth. Marvin believes personal development is key to professional development, and he aims to instill this mindset in his team. 4. Gratitude and Celebrating Milestones He shares how he makes an effort to recognize important milestones, such as birthdays, for his team members. He believes these small gestures help people feel valued and special, strengthening the relationships. Marvin also expresses gratitude for the time and attention his team members give him, seeing it as a privilege rather than an obligation. 5. Closing Thoughts on Leadership and Personal Growth In closing, Marvin reflects on the leaders and authors who have most influenced his own personal and professional development, including Napoleon Hill, James Allen, and John Maxwell. He emphasizes the importance of intentional, consistent effort towards self-improvement, and how this ultimately benefits both the individual and the organization they serve. Learn more about John Marvin over at the TSO (Texas State Optical). You can also connect with him on Linked. As always, if you have any questions or want to submit an amazing guest for the podcast, just reach out to me on the Systematic Leader website, and I'll do my best to get them on. If you enjoy the interview, please take 30 seconds to rate the Systematic Leader podcast on your favorite platform. Thanks!

John Marvin is an expert in marketing, strategy, education, and eye care. He is a well-known speaker and educator who frequently shares his thoughts on these subjects on his blog and podcast, Practice Principles.

Did you like the episode? Send me a text and let me know!!Ep. 92: The Power of Pivoting with John MarvinIn episode 92 of The Undiscovered Entrepreneur, host SC He speaks with seasoned entrepreneur John Marvin. John's journey spans across various industries, from marketing and advertising to pharmaceuticals, and finally to the eye care business. As the current president of Texas State Optical, John has transitioned the company from a franchise model to a brand licensing model, helping young optometrists establish independent practices. John shares insights on navigating personal and professional setbacks, emphasizing the importance of self-reflection, adaptability, and maintaining a positive mindset. He also discusses common hurdles new entrepreneurs face and underlines the significance of starting early and embracing growth opportunities.00:00 Introduction and Gratitude00:34 Meet John: A Seasoned Entrepreneur01:42 John's Entrepreneurial Journey07:02 The Power of Pivoting09:26 Overcoming Fear in Entrepreneurship12:08 Franchising vs. Brand Licensing15:09 Advice for Aspiring Entrepreneurs21:22 John's Personal Reflections24:44 Making a Difference in Optometry26:23 Impacting Lives Beyond Optometry28:57 The Entrepreneurial Mindset31:10 Overcoming Personal and Professional Challenges38:01 Adapting to Industry Changes41:29 Final Thoughts and Contact Information43:05 Key Takeaways and Conclusion Leslie Fiorenzo helps with your FEARLeslie helps you get over the fear of public speaking and enhances your message through speaking!The Great DiscoveryA fantastic place for housing you course and have a team of affiliates working for you.Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you. Thank you for being a Skoobeliever!! If you have questions about the show or you want to be a guest please contact me at one of these social mediasTwitter......... ..@djskoob2021 Facebook.........Facebook.com/skoobamiInstagram..... instagram.com/uepodcast2021tiktok....... @djskoob2021Email............... Uepodcast2021@gmail.comIf you would like to be coached on your entrepreneurial adventure please email me at for a 2 hour free discovery call! This is a $700 free gift to my Skoobelievers!! Contact me Now!! On Twitter @doittodaycoachdoingittodaycoaching@gmailcom

Growing up in Western Kansas, John Marvin initially pursued a career in marketing and advertising and shares his journey from being fired to adopting a new mindset, then transitioning to pharmaceutical sales at the suggestion of his father, a family physician. This path eventually led him to Texas State Optical, where he became President in 2001. Under his leadership, the organization transitioned from a traditional franchise to a member-owned cooperative, focusing on younger optometrists and leveraging technology such as AI to enhance patient care. John's innovative approach and dedication to mindset have helped Texas State Optical navigate industry challenges, including the impact of private equity and the shortage of optometrists, positioning the company for continued growth and success. KEY TAKEAWAYS: Mindset is Key: John Marvin emphasizes the transformative power of mindset in achieving success. He believes that having a positive outlook and a growth mindset can significantly influence one's career trajectory and personal development. Adapt or Die: The evolution of Texas State Optical is a classic example of adapting to market changes. By transitioning from a franchise to a brand license company and focusing on younger optometrists, TSO has managed to stay relevant in a competitive industry. AI in Healthcare: Artificial intelligence is revolutionizing healthcare, including optometry. AI enhances diagnostic capabilities and customer service, offering opportunities for improved patient care and operational efficiency. Customer Experience Matters: In healthcare, the patient experience extends beyond clinical care. John Marvin highlights the importance of service quality, suggesting that practitioners should focus on the overall experience to build credibility and attract patients. Sales Credibility: Effective sales strategies require understanding customer needs before offering solutions. John Marvin advises salespeople to engage in active listening and inquiry to build credibility and better align their offerings with client needs. "Mindset rules everything. Like everything is secondary to mindset and the inner game you play to achieve success. Business doesn't stay static. So you gotta be able to adapt or die." - John Marvin Connect with John Marvin www.tso.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/jdmarvin/ Connect with Manage Smarter Hosts   ·         Website: ManageSmarter.com  ·         LinkedIn: Audrey Strong                                                                    ·         LinkedIn: C. Lee Smith     Connect with SalesFuel ·         Website: http://salesfuel.com/  ·         Twitter: @SalesFuel  ·         Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/salesfuel/  #mindset #business #leadership #AI #optical #opticians #career #careertips #careerclimb Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Building Texas Business, I discuss John Marvin's transformative leadership journey as CEO and President of Texas State Optical (TSO). Founded in 1936 by the Rogers brothers, TSO evolved into a franchise operation spearheaded by John starting in the 1990s. Hear John's compelling account of reviving the brand, establishing the franchise association, and guiding the innovative physician-owned business model that has empowered young optometrists for decades. With the evolving eyewear landscape, our conversation analyzes consumer behavior shifts and their implications for strategic competition amid growing online retailers. We also explore the importance of supporting TSO's physician member network through mentorship and partnerships, especially given industry consolidation challenges. SHOW HIGHLIGHTS John D Marvin shares the history of Texas State Optical (TSO), founded by the Rogers brothers in 1936, and its growth into a franchise operation. We discuss how John Marvin revitalized TSO in the 1990s and his journey to becoming the president of the company in 2001. The episode explores the challenges and strategies involved in competing with online retailers in the eyewear industry, emphasizing the importance of convenience and well-stocked dispensaries. John describes the shift in optometry ownership trends, with fewer young optometrists interested in private practice, paralleling broader healthcare industry trends. We examine the strategic importance of building a physician member network to support optometrists and the criteria for network inclusion. The episode delves into leadership principles inspired by John C. Maxwell, highlighting the role of influence, trust, and accountability in effective leadership. John reflects on the transformative impact of setbacks, such as being fired, and how these experiences shape one's leadership journey. We explore the importance of forming strategic vendor partnerships and the role of mutual accountability in maintaining long-lasting business relationships. John emphasizes the need to adapt to industry shifts, including the rise of artificial intelligence, while fostering an innovative mindset among optometrists. The episode concludes with a discussion on the significance of understanding and meeting customer needs through effective consumer research, as a universal business strategy. LINKSShow Notes Previous Episodes About BoyarMiller About Texas State Optical GUESTS John D MarvinAbout John TRANSCRIPT (AI transcript provided as supporting material and may contain errors) Chris: In this episode you will meet John Marvin, ceo and President of Texas State Optical. John shares his views on how the fundamentals of leadership boil down to influencing and how having mutual accountability in your business relationships create win situations. John, I want to thank you for taking the time to join me today. It's really been a pleasure to get to know you before we got started here. John: Well, Chris, I appreciate the opportunity to sit down. I always love talking about business. Chris: Well, that's good, that's what we're going to do. So you're the CEO and president of Texas State Optical, or most people know it as TSO. That's right. Tell us a little more detail about what is the company, what does it do and what is it really known for in the market. John: Okay Well, texas State Optical was founded in 1936 by four brothers the Rogers brothers, in Beaumont, texas, and anybody who's been to Beaumont or familiar with Beaumont knows of the impact those four brothers had on that community and then in turn throughout Texas. Two of the brothers were optometrists and they opened pretty traditional optometry practice. And if you'll think about what else was going on in 1936 in Beaumont, it was the oil boom that was just blowing up, and so the one that originally came to Texas from Chicago all four of them were from Chicago called back home and said boys, you need to move down here. We got a big opportunity and they did, and consequently, over the next several years they built a large retail optical chain they called Texas State Optical, and one time in the early 60s it had reached over 300 locations. And one time in the early 60s it had reached over 300 locations and those were in New Mexico, oklahoma, arkansas, louisiana and Texas, and so that went on until, due to some legal issues with the state optometric group, who decided that they didn't want someone in the state running 300 locations, they passed some legislation that limited optometrists to only three locations and so they could subsequently, after a long legal battle had to sell off most of their property, but they kept the core of the business of the optical lab. They kept that and kind of a condition of buying. The practice was that you obligated yourself to continue to purchase items from them. But then in the late 60s the Rogers, having gone through this process of dissolving their ownership in it, decided to turn their attention towards real estate development and at one point they owned 25% of Caesars Palace in Vegas. They just got involved in other things and then consequently in the early 70s they sold the company to a large pharmaceutical company, gd Searle, who then subsequently sold the company in the early 80s to Pearl Vision. Most people are familiar with Pearl Vision, most people are familiar with ProVision and ran that until the late 80s when they sold it to a group of kind of investors who wanted to own it. They didn't really know how to run it than investors. So in I got involved in 1993 doing consumer research for the corporate office. My background at the time I had a company marketing management group and based here in Houston and it was a small marketing management and consumer research group and was doing work in other areas. But picked them up as a client and began to do a lot of consumer study for them and learned about the business. At that time it was somewhat distressed because of the leadership that had taken over from the Pearl Vision taken over from Pearl, and so there was a lot of unrest among the franchisees because at that time TSO was a franchise operation and so I helped them form a franchise association and then kind of on a part-time arrangement took on an executive director position within that while maintaining my consumer study and research stuff. And so that happened until the late nineties, when everyone was planning for the great millennium you know, the 2000 and Y2, right, right. And so we gathered everybody in my conference room over here and how, booty building, and down here in the galleria and they started you know, flip chart sheets, what do we want to accomplish? And blah, blah, blah, and and that the result of that was really, guys, you're not going to get any of this done unless you own it. And so we began to have some discussions about them buying the company, the, the franchisor, and that took about a year to negotiate, and during that process I was asked to come on as the new president and since and then we closed in June of 2001, and since that time I've been the acting and operational by president and CEO of the company, and one of the reasons that it appealed to me was it was the ultimate fixer-upper, because the company had really was kind of loosely held together but had an iconic brand, and so we started opening new locations with Young Optometrist and we're a brand license company. So we knew that the only way we could pick up a new customer, if you would be, if a young OD wanted to open their own practice and then we could help them do that. People that were established at the time and successful weren't interested in converting to a retail trade name, so we did. We opened up about 80 new locations and helped a lot of young ODs live a dream and had put together a whole turnkey system commercial realty contractors the whole nine yards. Chris: That's a fascinating history, you know, to kind of just see it grow so big in the beginning, get broken down and then almost come back together. Yeah with, I guess in 2001 you said, with these individual practice owners or franchisees becoming owners. John: That's, you know, kind of unique, especially for doctors yeah, it was a different approach to it, one of the reasons we can set it as a now. We never incorporated it as a cooperative, we incorporated it as for-profit. We simply chose to run it as a cooperative, which, by its nature of co-op, isn't intended to make money, right? So we could keep the services and the value of what we offer members very high because we priced it at a break-even point, and so it was very appealing to a lot of young ODs who needed that help without any experience knowing what to do. And, of course, we then had a retail trade name that had market appeal. So a lot of them benefited greatly by, as opposed, to, opening up under their own name and unknown in a community. Chris: Yeah, it gives it instant credibility with the brand name right. That's right. What are some of the things I guess that you know since that time in 2001, that you do and your team around you, to kind of help preserve that brand value, to make it marketable and enticing to these doctors. John: Well, part of it is the importance. An optometry practice as a small business has a very defined marketplace of about three radium miles Okay, so one. That's part of that is because there are so many options and the profession is a licensed profession and so there's a little bit of perception by consumers that it's a commodity. In other words, anybody who's got a license will be able to give you a good exam. Consumers at one time back in the 60s and 70s, thought mostly of wherever they got their exams. That's where they purchased their eyewear. Chris: Out of convenience, right Out of convenience. John: That's right. And in the 80s you had a much more proliferation of retail optical chains like LensCrafters and EyeMasters at the time and Pearl Vision, which were creating an awareness among consumers that you know what, I can get my exam in one location and I can buy my eyewear in another location, and so that added to that sense of commodity. And so what we've done is focus on a three mile marketplace. So instead of running one advertising campaign in Houston, we run 50 around each of our locations, and those are largely driven through community involvement, pay-per-click, you know, today pay-per-click In the beginning though, a lot of it was just getting to know your school nurse, getting to know the coaches in the league ball game, and so from a marketing strategy it was always hyper-local standpoint. And so if you go into some neighborhoods, everyone knows the TSO. If you go into an neighborhood where we have no location, maybe not so much, and that was done probably more just from a practical standpoint of cost than it was anything else, because you know Houston and Dallas. Where we're at in San Antonio, they're very expensive media markets and so if you've only got, you know, 20 locations in the DFW market to go in and try to buy television, advertising or something more traditional is prohibited, and so it makes a lot more sense because that's where people live and work. People ask me sometimes how do you go about picking your locations, your real estate stuff? And I said we tend to let Kroger and HEB do that for us. So, wherever they're at, we want to be close because that's a neighborhood. Chris: That's right. You figured they thought there were enough households to support a grocery store. So I like that, you know, uh, you know. There's a lesson there, though, for a business owner, an entrepreneur, in that you don't necessarily have to do all your own organic research if you don't know, aware what's going on, you can, you know, let someone else do some of that and just make sure that their end users look like yours, and that's right. John: They do a tremendous job, both of those companies, at understanding the market before they ever buy land or pour concrete. I'd hate to insult them by not taking advantage of all that good work they do. Chris: They're genius right, they're genius, that's right. You just mentioned, you said 30 different or 50 different marketing campaigns in Houston alone. I mean, how do you go about figuring out you know the right message for the right place? That must take a lot of work. John: Well, not so much I mean because the message in Sugar Land is the same as the message in the Woodlands. I mean people. While we, as as in our profession, try to complicate this, it's pretty simple from a consumer standpoint. They're looking for a place where they can get their eyes checked and buy a pair of glasses. But probably two-thirds of all of our revenue today come from a third-party payer. So that changes kind of the basic consumer behavior dynamic. But by putting out a message that really is focused on that group of people in terms of maximizing the value of those coverage benefits, that becomes real consistent and then it's a matter of just being louder than anybody else. Chris: Sure, while we're on the subject of that consumer and consumer behavior, what are some of the things that you have done over the last 10, 15 years to either combat the online competition, as you mentioned, because people get their eyes examined and they either go online or do something. How are you managing that and what are some of the strategies you found to be successful? John: Well, first of all, consumers are driven, and I think this may be generally true, but certainly our consumers are driven with the priority on convenience, and one of the reasons the online marketing purchase of eyewear is so appealing is its convenience, and oftentimes it's not a price issue as much as it is a convenience issue and assortment and selection. So one of the things that we focus on is to make sure that our retail dispensary that's what we call the retail store aspect of a practice is well inventoried with product and assortment price points, and then the ultimate differentiation is customer service and knowledgeable people, and so if you have selection pricing and knowledgeable people, it's a home run and you don't have to worry about it, because if you can make it convenient for them, then they're not tempted to go online. And because there's a lot of I don't know if you've ever bought a pair of shoes online, but all you need to do is have one bad experience with that and have to turn around, send them back and so forth and so on that people would really prefer to get it locally, where I got my, where they received their exam, and it's kind of hours to lose. So we try to make sure we don't give them a reason to leave. Chris: Yeah Well, it's an interesting analogy with the shoes, because I can relate to that and see that people like to try on shoes but also glasses right. John: What are these going to look? Chris: like, and if you're at a store with a good selection, it's all right there as opposed to ordering one or two online and knowing you're going to be returning something. Advert Hello friends, this is Chris Hanslick, your Building Texas business host. Did you know that Boyer Miller, the producer of this podcast, is a business law firm that works with entrepreneurs, corporations and business leaders? Our team of attorneys serve as strategic partners to businesses by providing legal guidance to organizations of all sizes. Get to know the firm at BoyerMillercom, and thanks for listening to the show. That's right, yes, well, that's it. So let's shift now kind of to this physician member network. What do you look for, if anything, as far as qualifying people to come into the brand, and then how do you help, kind of manage and support once they're in the network, if you will, to make sure that you're doing all you can to help them be successful? John: It's an interesting change we're seeing right now, especially in the last five to 10 years, and that is, the number of young optometrists who have an interest in owning their own practice is going away. Chris: It's really an interesting thing. John: One. It's very similar to what's going on in healthcare in general. You know, I was just talking to some people last week and I said you know when was the last time I asked them? I said do you have children? Yes, do you have a pediatrician? Yes, is that pediatrician private practice? Chris: No. John: It's owned by some big organization like Texas Children's, and what you're seeing in healthcare delivery at the provider level is a consolidation of these organizations and the disappearing of private practice, and we're seeing that now in optometry. And another big dynamic is 85% of all optometry graduates today are female, and in the 80s that number was just the opposite. It was very unusual in the 80s and early 90s to see women in optometry school. I mean they certainly didn't represent the majority. And so with that comes different priorities of practice. You know you don't have the hard-charging young guy who wants to go into small-town Texas and really build up a big practice or even a metro area. You have people that are much more interested in part-time, that I want to be able to step aside, raise my family, then maybe come back later, and so there's a whole different culture among the providers now coming in. So our organization as a business model relies on young optometrists wanting to own their own practice, and if that category is declining we've got to come up with some other plan here to maintain Sure. So one the opportunities we have are less. The vetting process is largely a discussion with very successful people. Our board of directors consists of nine doctors and three outside directors, but the nine doctors are all very successful. And so a young person does approach me and we talk, I want them to speak to one of our successful guys, and then their job is to kind of assess and come back to me and say, John, I don't know if she's ready, I don't know if he can do this, or I think this is a home run, let's go. And with their input and my discussion I've been doing it now long enough that I kind of get a feel for it Then we'll say let's go. And really it's a matter of they own everything. It's a matter of us guiding them through the process and then supporting them with just the knowledge they don't have about building a practice afterwards, and then lots of follow-up and hand-holding. Chris: And it's done. I think you said just as, basically a license agreement where they're licensing the name and brand and they get some support as a result of that as well. John: I mean contractually, I'm not obligated to support anything. Contractually I'm not obligated to support anything. All I'm obligated to do is to keep the value of the brand consistent with what they're paying for it. But I realized that if they're not successful, my brand value suffers. So we do all that we can to support them and help them be successful. Chris: So let's talk a little bit about your internal team. I mean, you've got a team I think you said 12, that's kind of help support you, that support these members. What have you found to be successful as you've gone through maybe trials and tribulations of hiring the right people, making sure you've got the right people in the right seat to kind of support the business and the brand? John: You know, that's a great question, because I, up until about 2015, I took a whole different approach to personnel than I did 2015 and on, and it was like I learned something, and that is I put together a group of really knowledgeable people in terms of their expertise in certain areas, but the quality that I had not paid attention to prior to that was they also had to be connectors. They had to be the kind of people that could say hey, chris, I know somebody you ought to talk to. And so because when a non-doctor walks into a doctor's office, even with the responsibility of helping, they carry a different level of credibility with that doctor than if a doctor told them something. If we go in and say, hey, listen, you need to be open Saturdays, because there's a lot of business on Saturdays, I don't want to do it. But if a doctor tells them, oh man, you got to be open Saturday, they'll listen to it. But if a doctor tells them, oh man, you've got to be open Saturday, they'll listen to it. And so our guys who are in the field, they do tactical training and support for staff, but when a doctor is facing an issue that they know the answer to, they in turn, seek out other leadership in the doctor community to say would you mind giving so-and-so a call Because I think you could help them get through whatever issue they're dealing with. And so that quality and frankly it's, you know it requires someone who doesn't have much of an ego. Sure, because you know I say this all the time like my old friend Ronald Reagan used to say, there's no limit to what you can accomplish if you don't care who gets the credit. Chris: Yeah. John: And so we take that approach, and ours isn't about trying to get a bunch of credit. Ours is about trying to lift up this organization and get these guys successful, and if we're simply a facilitator in information to how to do that, we don't have to be the initial provider of that information. Even if we know it, it comes much better from a colleague, and so that's one of the things that we put a lot of emphasis on is helping the network, help each other. Chris: So you know you were very quick to say 2015. Have you seen a dramatic improvement in the performance of the overall business since making that change and kind of focusing on the connector quality as being an additional important quality in the people you bring on? John: Very much so, because what Texas State Optical was in the beginning was a doctor-owned organization and doctors working with other doctors to help them grow a network and large business. We're trying to replicate that from the standpoint of, especially as the business, the structure we use I mentioned earlier as a cooperative. It requires doctor leadership to be active and engaged in running their own company, their owners of the company, and so, while I have certainly an important role in that, the more doctors that engage in the leadership of the organization, the better it is overall. And since we took that intentional effort in 2015, a couple of things too. We had a kind of an evolution of membership. I mean, we had a lot of our older doctors retire and sell practices, and then we had a whole influx of young doctors, and so we ended up in 2015 with an organization that was significantly different demographically, both age and gender. That was significantly different demographically, both age and gender. But we thought they need mentorship among the leadership in the organization, and so we worked at creating that for them, and it impacts not just clinical I mean, there's also that aspect of it they're learning clinically from friends but operationally, and so it made a big difference Very good. Chris: I know that you have supply agreements with certain labs and other things. Let's talk about some of the things that you found to be successful in maintaining, I guess, forming those kind of key strategic relationships for the business, and maybe some of the things you do to make sure that you foster and keep them strong of the things you do to make sure that you foster and keep them strong. John: Well, in the vendor-doctor community there is a kind of an assumption made by both sides, and one is the doctor assumes that the vendor's got more money than they know how to spend or what they've got all this money to spend, and the vendor assumes the doctor's not going to follow through on all the promises they make. So that's kind of where we start at the table, and so I think it's important and what we've worked at bringing to our relationships is mutual accountability, and we have found our vendor partners to be extremely invested in our success, but at the same time they've got a business to run as well, and so our success with them and that dynamic of that exchange or relationship cannot be at the vendor's expense. It's gotta be the classic cliche win type of thing, but you only get win if you have mutual accountability. And so in every agreement we have, here's what the vendor commits to and here's what the doctor community commits to. And then we have business reviews where we sit down and say here's where we're dropping the ball or here's where you're dropping the ball, and we hold that accountability does a long goes a long way to not only making the relationship productive but also building trust and longevity into those partnerships, because if you're making money with a partner, you don't want it to stop, right, you know? And that goes both ways If you're a doctor making money with a partner, you don't want it to stop, and if money with a partner, you don't want it to stop, and if you're a partner, you don't want to stop. So I found that type of mutual accountability and the willingness to be held accountable is critical to those relationships Very good. Chris: So you know. Talk a little bit about leadership. You've been running this organization for a long time now. How would you describe your leadership style and how do you think that's evolved over time? John: well, I would. I don't know if I've ever been asked to describe it, but I would say it's Maxwellian. Okay, and that means John C Maxwell, who is an author, has written a number of books on leadership and, in my opinion, probably is the most the best leadership author. I'm biased, of course, but I think he is. Forbes Magazine said that a few years ago, but basically his definition of leadership is influence. Nothing more, nothing less. It's just influence. And an example of that is if you walk into a room of people, you're naturally going to notice someone who's exercising influence on others, and it isn't an authoritarian way, it's in a trust and credibility way. And so if you're influencing, you're leading. If you're not, it doesn no matter what title you have. So an example is my when I explained how we use doctors to help influence other doctors. So that's a level of influence that doesn't come because I require somebody to do something. It it occurs because you're able to influence others to to make a difference. So I would. I'm a big believer in that. I'll plug his book. There are 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership. It's a classic, and so that's like a Bible. It's my business Bible in terms of leadership style. Chris: I was going to use that word because others and it's fair to plug books, because sometimes I ask people what's a book you would recommend. We hear a lot of good to great from people Sure, jim Collins. But what I love what you said if you're influencing, you're leading, because I say a lot of times a true leader leads without a title. John: Right, you're actually doing things without the title to demonstrate leadership, which is what you're talking about Exactly, and if you do have the title and can influence, it's a home run. It's a home run, yeah. Chris: So you've learned that through lots of trials and tribulations. I think we all learn through mistakes or setbacks Anything you could share with the listeners about a decision made that didn't go the way you thought but you learned from it and that learning kind of catapulted you made you better because of it. Setback, failure whatever word you want to describe Anything you could you care to share in that realm. John: Sure the. So I came to Houston. I was born and raised in Western Kansas and I was in Wichita born and raised in western Kansas, and I was in Wichita, kansas, in 1989, excuse me, in the late 80s, 84, 89 era and I was working for a large ophthalmology practice up there as a marketing administrator and in that role I attended a lot of national meetings in ophthalmology and during that meeting I met an owner of a large Houston ophthalmology and during that meeting I met an owner of a large Houston ophthalmology group who ended up offering me a job and I came to Texas. Due to some marketing challenges we were facing at that practice, I was introduced to Texas State Optical while I was at that practice and then left after about four years, left that practice and went to a consumer research firm here in Stafford and quickly turned around and went to Texas State Optical to see if they would like to buy some insurance I'm not insurance, buy some research and they did so. I ended up doing this large project for them but also ended up doing a ton of work for HLMP. During the time they were prepared to try to go to battle with Enron and this was like early nineties, right, and so everything was going well. And then I get fired from the research thing. Now I moved my family down from Kansas. I've been in the state about five and a half years and I get fired. I've been in the state about five and a half years and I get fired. And that was a big you know. Anytime you've been fired, that kind of devastates you Right, it shakes you up. Chris: Yeah, it does. John: But had that not happened, I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing Right, and so I have learned, and what pulled me through that is faith, Faith in God and faith in myself is faith, faith in God and faith in myself, and I felt like I can do, kind of what. There was a part of it, chris, that was liberating, because that was like, instead of thinking now what am I going to do, I was thinking now what am I going to do. I mean, it was a whole different frame of attitude and that subsequently ended up leading to the position I have today, through working with franchisees at Texas State Optical and so forth. Chris: That's a great story. Thank you for sharing. You bet A lot of people don't want to talk about, especially if they've been fired for something. But to your point on that, these other opportunities would have never presented themselves right, because you likely stayed in the comfort of the job and seeing where that takes you. You know there's so much that can come. John: Actually, I'd gone to that research firm. The owner of it had brought me there with the promise implied I mean not implied, but it wasn't in writing but the idea was that I would take over that firm at some point and it turned out that didn't work out Well you know a lot of what you, I think, describe. Chris: The undertone to that is the mindset you had in the wake of that setback. You know you didn't let it take you down. You're like like you said what am I going to go? Do I got all these opportunities and go? Explore and figure it out. John: So I had about 30 days before the next house payment came, so that you were acting quick, got to be decisive man. Chris: You can't be stewing on decisions forever, for sure, well, that and so you know that leadership, you know is forged and helped you get to where you are today. You know, when you, when you think about applying that mindset and that leadership kind of style, how does it help you kind of navigate the ups and downs of the economic cycles that we've experienced over the last 20 plus years? John: Well, you know, first of all is to understand which of these cycles are cyclical. That's a little redundant, but I mean, what is it we're going through that's cyclical. That you can. You know, business loves a stable and predictable environment. Right Now, the reality is it's ups and downs. But if it's ups and downs within a certain range of up and down, it's stable right, and you can prepare for it Certain tolerances right, yeah certain tolerances. What we've seen, not only in the economy and that's a whole different issue but what we've seen in the profession itself and the consolidation of private practice by private equity that's come into the marketplace, is we're seeing disruption like we haven't seen before. And I was talking to one of our board members doctor board members about it and we were just, you know, he was pointing out all of the things that are kind of out without from under excuse me, out of our control, and as we were talking about it, I had this thought and I told him. I said it's a great time to be alive and that because we're the ones that get to go through this, and in many ways I believe that our profession is going through a transformation that will take probably a 20 year period of time. But 40 years from now, optometry, I don't think, will look anything like it does today, and it's always bumpy to be in the middle of that turbulent transformation. The 80s were very steady, the 90s were pretty steady. It was in starting about 2010, 2000, that things started rapidly changing and then the acceleration with just technology and everything else is just gone, and then you've got now the whole world of artificial intelligence coming into play and it's. I consider it exciting, invigorating, challenging, but I mean what's? The alternative is to be bored right. Chris: Well, if you don't adopt and if you're not using it, you die use it you die, that's right. So I mean, you know, kind of it's a great segue to what are some of the things you do to kind of foster that maybe innovative mindset of how you're going to embrace the technological changes and use them in the business model to further the brand and the business. John: So I there's very little I can do without the support of the doctor, owner, community right. And sometimes there's a lot of indecision, because when you're not sure what to do, you're scared of doing the wrong thing. Chris: Sure, Well, it seems like you got a lot of opinions that out there too, right? John: You got a lot of them, and so what I have to do is to influence them through other people and through information, to get them to a point of being open enough to consider ideas that they might consider kind of sacrilege in some case. For instance, what is real common in most optometry practices today is what's called an autorefractor. It's a machine that people go through and it gives you a prescription, and the prescription is used by the doctor to zero in on where your visual acuity is right. Well, when that first came out, optometrists thought that was the end of the profession. Here's a machine that'll do what I'm doing. Optometrists thought that was the end of the profession. Here's a machine that'll do what I'm doing. And so there's a fear oftentimes of innovation. Right, that you have to assure people that there's a way to use this to our benefit, and that's what we're going through with artificial intelligence right now. One group is scared to death. It's going to replace them. The other group is glad they're old enough, they're probably not going to have to go through with it. And then you're looking for those people who say, hey, how can we utilize this to really to our benefit? Yeah, and once people feel that's safe enough to kind of try. Then the people realize that the fear is misplaced. Chris: So true, right, but it takes education, information and influence, as you said, to get people to get there so that they can adopt it One of the things that I teach my team to say. John: I mean to believe, and I say it all the time is we believe in everybody's right to make a bad decision. So if someone listens to us and they choose not to do what we're recommending and we know it's a good decision what we're recommending and they choose not to, it's their right. You know, I mean everybody's right to waste their own money. So that kind of patience is necessary with a group like ours. In many ways it's like working with a volunteer organization. Chris: Yeah, well, lots of challenges there, I'm sure. Well, john, this has been a great conversation. I really appreciate you sharing everything I want to ask you, I guess, going back to your days, you know, I guess growing up in Kansas what was your first job? John: A drugstore Rexall drugstore and I grew up in a town of 2000 people and my dad was the family physician of the community and so of course in a town like that in western Kansas the doctor and the pharmacist are close relationship. And so I got my first job at a drugstore, working a soda fountain, delivering prescriptions, restocking things. Like that had a blast and that really I learned a lot in that, not just like everybody learns a lot from their first job, but understanding. I was intrigued by Rexall. I don't know how familiar you are with Rexall, but Rexall was a national organization that gave private ownership of drugstores the purchasing power of a large corporate chain, and so my employer was the pharmacist. He owned the drug store and he stood up in the stand in the dais every day counting pills and chatting with people. So that was my first job. Chris: Very good. Well, you've been in Texas now since what the late? John: 80s. Chris: So do you prefer Tex-Mex or barbecue Barbecue? Okay. John: Barbecue Very good. My waistline prefers barbecue. Chris: And last thing if you could take a 30-day sabbatical, where would you go and what would you do? I don't know, Probably nuts. John: I just I've got to be engaged and I mean I don't have to be. I'm not select. I love business and I love the challenge it has. So I'm not I don't. You said earlier in our discussion about you were describing about the law firm. When I was doing consumer research, I did some healthcare work 12 Oaks Hospital was a client and so but I would tell people, is I specialize in a process, not an industry, because the process is the same and I would say that's what I really love about business, because when you boil it down to what I do and what you do and others that run businesses, it's the same process. It's understanding your customer and then directing how your services or products benefit that customer and communicating and the whole marketing scheme of promotion, price, product and place applies to every industry. And so I'd probably do something if I had 30 days. Like I said, I'd go nuts. Chris: Well, but I think what you just said there in the end is you have great insight and learning for business owners and entrepreneurs out there. You're trying to find their way. It's it is figure out what the consumer that you're catering to really wants and then deliver that as efficient as best you can that's why you know my, when I first got into consumer research, I thought this is like cheating. John: I mean you're actually going out and saying what do you want? They tell you, and then you give it to them. I mean it's like, it's amazing. Chris: Yeah, right, so well, this has been great, John. Thanks again for taking the time. You bet I really appreciate your invitation. Special Guest: John D Marvin.

Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today's show is John Marvin President of Texas State Optical. As one of the country's oldest optometry business models, TSO has seen many different headwinds and tailwinds that have impacted optometry. As President of TSO over the past 20 years, John has seen TSO grow into one of the top 10 retail optical organizations in the country, doing over $110 million in annual sales across nearly 100 locations. Our conversation is wide reaching, including the pivots that TSO has made in the wake of the pandemic and influx of private equity funds into the profession, how the unique value proposition of TSO has evolved over the years (and why pratices, regardless of brand affiliation or business model, need to continue to focus their energy and efforts on the patient), the talent shortage that their doctors have been experiencing and why it's been happening, and a variety of other topics.   As a reminder, you can get all the information discussed in today's conversation by visiting our website at integratedpwm.com and clicking on the Learning Center. While there, be sure to subscribe to our monthly “planning life on purpose” newsletter that's filled with tips and ideas to help you plan your best life, on purpose. You can also set up a Triage conversation to learn a little bit more about how we serve in the capacity of a personal and professional CFO: helping OD practice owners around the country reduce their tax bill, proactively manage cash flow, and make prudent investment decisions both in and out of their practice to ultimately help them live their best life on purpose. You can also check out any number of additional free resources like our eBooks, blog posts, and on-demand webinars. Lastly, if you're interested in learning more about the upcoming launch of the 20/20 Money Membership, please check out the link in the Resources to learn more about what we have in store for you!   And with that introduction, I hope you enjoy my conversation with John Marvin.     Resources: 20/20 Money Community Information Texas State Optical   ———————————————————————————— Please rate and subscribe to 20/20 Money on these platforms Apple Podcasts Spotify For past episodes of 20/20 Money with full companion show notes, please check out our episode archive here!

Are you struggling to connect with your customers and keep up with industry changes? As an optometrist, have you been overwhelmed by the business side of running your practice? Many businesses tend to focus on pleasing suppliers and third-party payers while neglecting the end consumer. However, it's crucial to remember that everything starts and ends with the consumer. This shortsightedness leaves industries vulnerable to outsiders willing to listen and respond to customer frustrations. In an age where consumer preferences and technologies are constantly shifting, can your business afford to remain static?  Meet John D. Marvin, president and CEO of Texas State Optical, who shares invaluable insights on staying relevant in an industry ripe for disruption. He discusses strategies for truly understanding customers, disrupting outdated norms, and positioning your brand for long-term success by catering to consumer preferences. Tune in to discover how planning and a laser focus on customer needs can lead to a bright future for your company in an increasingly competitive marketplace. Resources Texas State Optical's Website John Marvin on LinkedIn

Welcome to the "Week in Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.       This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.       Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.  Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Welcome to the "Week in Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.       This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.       Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.  Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Welcome to the "Week in Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.       This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.       Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.  Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In the aftermath of the tragic event where Alex Murdaugh was accused of murdering his wife and son, the investigation took a crucial turn three days later. During this phase, the focus shifted to Alex Murdaugh's brother, John Marvin. In an effort to delve deeper into the case, SLED investigators conducted a comprehensive interview with John Marvin. This significant interview took place at the family's Moselle property in South Carolina, a location central to the ongoing investigation. The interview, which occurred in June 2021, was not just a procedural step but a vital component in understanding the broader context and family dynamics surrounding the incident. The full details of this interview with John Marvin were made available for public viewing, offering insights into the complex and unfolding narrative of the Murdaugh family tragedy. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In the aftermath of the tragic event where Alex Murdaugh was accused of murdering his wife and son, the investigation took a crucial turn three days later. During this phase, the focus shifted to Alex Murdaugh's brother, John Marvin. In an effort to delve deeper into the case, SLED investigators conducted a comprehensive interview with John Marvin. This significant interview took place at the family's Moselle property in South Carolina, a location central to the ongoing investigation. The interview, which occurred in June 2021, was not just a procedural step but a vital component in understanding the broader context and family dynamics surrounding the incident. The full details of this interview with John Marvin were made available for public viewing, offering insights into the complex and unfolding narrative of the Murdaugh family tragedy. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In the aftermath of the tragic event where Alex Murdaugh was accused of murdering his wife and son, the investigation took a crucial turn three days later. During this phase, the focus shifted to Alex Murdaugh's brother, John Marvin. In an effort to delve deeper into the case, SLED investigators conducted a comprehensive interview with John Marvin. This significant interview took place at the family's Moselle property in South Carolina, a location central to the ongoing investigation. The interview, which occurred in June 2021, was not just a procedural step but a vital component in understanding the broader context and family dynamics surrounding the incident. The full details of this interview with John Marvin were made available for public viewing, offering insights into the complex and unfolding narrative of the Murdaugh family tragedy. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

John Marvin Murdaugh, the younger brother of Alex Murdaugh gave an often times emotional testimony in court yesterday where he described his close relationship with his nephew Paul and the horrendous scene he encountered the next morning when he went to clean up the scene where the murders occurred.John Marvin Murdaugh also called into question several of the prosecutions main allegations and when asked about the pivotal blue rain coat, he said that he has never seen it before.(commercial at 15:24)to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comsource:Alex Murdaugh's brother John Marvin breaks down telling trial how he ‘cleaned up' what was left of nephew Paul | The IndependentThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5080327/advertisement

Michael Dewitt grew up in the hometown of the Murdaugh's, Hampton, SC.He is the long time editor of the Hampton County Guardian. He has been covering the Murdaugh family for decades. His coverage of the murders of Maggie and Paul and Alex's trial though Ganett's nationwide network put him on the national radar. He has a very unique perspective on covering the Murdaugh drama and tragedies. The Netflix Murdaugh documentary shows drone footage of John Marvin and Buster removing guns from the Moselle property. Aubrey Dempsey was present when that drone footage was shot. He puts the video into context.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-murdaugh-family-murders-impact-of-influence/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

As the week comes to a close, it's time to reflect on some of the most captivating moments from the cases that have been making headlines. From gripping court testimonies to shocking new developments, this has been a week filled with twists and turns that have kept us on the edge of our seats. Whether you are a seasoned legal expert or simply a curious observer, there is no denying that the cases we have been following have been nothing short of enthralling. With every new piece of information that comes to light, it becomes clearer that the truth is never as straightforward as it seems. The stories we have been covering this week are a testament to the complexity and unpredictability of the legal system and the people who navigate it every day. So, let's take a moment to look back at some of the most compelling moments of the week, and see what they can teach us about the power of human nature, the flaws in our justice system, and the importance of a fair trial. Want to listen to ALL of our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases:   Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski (All Cases) -https://availableon.com/universityofidahomurderspodcast4killedforwhat Chad & Lori Daybell - https://availableon.com/demiseofthedaybellsthelorichaddaybellstory   The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://availableon.com/findinganathisdisappearanceofanawalshe Alex Murdaugh - https://availableon.com/thetrialofalexmurdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://availableon.com/theidahomurdersthecaseagainstbryankohberger True Crime Today (All Cases & EXTRA Commentary) - https://availableon.com/truecrimetodayatruecrimepodcast  Follow Tony Brueski On Twitter https://twitter.com/tonybpod Join our Facebook Discussion Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/834636321133

As the week comes to a close, it's time to reflect on some of the most captivating moments from the cases that have been making headlines. From gripping court testimonies to shocking new developments, this has been a week filled with twists and turns that have kept us on the edge of our seats. Whether you are a seasoned legal expert or simply a curious observer, there is no denying that the cases we have been following have been nothing short of enthralling. With every new piece of information that comes to light, it becomes clearer that the truth is never as straightforward as it seems. The stories we have been covering this week are a testament to the complexity and unpredictability of the legal system and the people who navigate it every day. So, let's take a moment to look back at some of the most compelling moments of the week, and see what they can teach us about the power of human nature, the flaws in our justice system, and the importance of a fair trial. Want to listen to ALL of our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases:   Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski (All Cases) -https://availableon.com/universityofidahomurderspodcast4killedforwhat Chad & Lori Daybell - https://availableon.com/demiseofthedaybellsthelorichaddaybellstory   The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://availableon.com/findinganathisdisappearanceofanawalshe Alex Murdaugh - https://availableon.com/thetrialofalexmurdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://availableon.com/theidahomurdersthecaseagainstbryankohberger True Crime Today (All Cases & EXTRA Commentary) - https://availableon.com/truecrimetodayatruecrimepodcast  Follow Tony Brueski On Twitter https://twitter.com/tonybpod Join our Facebook Discussion Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/834636321133

In a jailhouse phone call, Alex Murdaugh spoke with his brother John Marvin about his co-defendants, PMPED, and more. The call raised new questions about Alex's involvement in the crimes and his relationships with those involved. The nature of the call was disturbing, and some of Alex's words were described as chilling. The call has sparked speculation about what secrets Alex might have revealed, and whether his words could be considered a confession or a threat. The truth about his involvement in PMPED and the extent of his relationships with co-defendants are still unknown, but the jailhouse call has provided new insights into the case. #JailhouseCall #PMPED #CoDefendants #Revelations #Involvement #SecretsRevealed #ShockingAdmission #PhoneCall Want to listen to ALL of our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases:     Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski (All Cases) - https://availableon.com/universityofidahomurderspodcast4killedforwhat Chad & Lori Daybell -   https://availableon.com/demiseofthedaybellsthelorichaddaybellstory   The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://availableon.com/findinganathisdisappearanceofanawalshe Alex Murdaugh - https://availableon.com/thetrialofalexmurdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://availableon.com/theidahomurdersthecaseagainstbryankohberger True Crime Today (All Cases & EXTRA Commentary) - https://availableon.com/truecrimetodayatruecrimepodcast  Follow Tony Brueski On Twitter https://twitter.com/tonybpod Join our Facebook Discussion Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/834636321133

In a jailhouse phone call, Alex Murdaugh spoke with his brother John Marvin about his co-defendants, PMPED, and more. The call raised new questions about Alex's involvement in the crimes and his relationships with those involved. The nature of the call was disturbing, and some of Alex's words were described as chilling. The call has sparked speculation about what secrets Alex might have revealed, and whether his words could be considered a confession or a threat. The truth about his involvement in PMPED and the extent of his relationships with co-defendants are still unknown, but the jailhouse call has provided new insights into the case. #JailhouseCall #PMPED #CoDefendants #Revelations #Involvement #SecretsRevealed #ShockingAdmission #PhoneCall Want to listen to ALL of our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases:     Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski (All Cases) - https://availableon.com/universityofidahomurderspodcast4killedforwhat Chad & Lori Daybell -   https://availableon.com/demiseofthedaybellsthelorichaddaybellstory   The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://availableon.com/findinganathisdisappearanceofanawalshe Alex Murdaugh - https://availableon.com/thetrialofalexmurdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://availableon.com/theidahomurdersthecaseagainstbryankohberger True Crime Today (All Cases & EXTRA Commentary) - https://availableon.com/truecrimetodayatruecrimepodcast  Follow Tony Brueski On Twitter https://twitter.com/tonybpod Join our Facebook Discussion Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/834636321133

Sara Armour & Desi Handal from the STP: Department of Criminal Astrology are back to review John Marvin Murdaugh's testimony and investigate his natal chart. 00:02 Lesson: It's Alex Murdaugh's Mars Return!02:25 Brother, John Marvin testimony highlights (courtesy of Law & Crime on YouTube in 2x) : Alex was freshly showered when John arrived at the scene of the crimeJohn Marvin cleaned Pauls brain off the floorSloppy police work. JM aided law enforcement in locating Maggie's missing phone.Alex obstructed justice by lying about being at the Kennels minutes before his wife and sun were murdered.Detailed how Alex had "uncontrollable diarrhea" in the car on the way to detox.14:23 The anaretic astrological timing of the trial. 29-day trial while both Pluto and Saturn are sitting at the 29th degrees of Capricorn & Aquarius. 18:57 The bystander effect experiment. Are lawyers inherently liars? At what point would your rat out your family vs clean up on their behalf? 23:00 The suspicious death of dynasty patriarch, Randolph Murdaugh Sr. Like the pisces / virgo axis, the human mind is highly malleable.33:24 Rock bottom living and leadership training36:22 Family "fixer" John Marvin Murdaugh is OF COURSE a Scorpio Sun / Virgo MoonWant more criminal astrology deep dives? A celebrity book club? To hear more about the remarkably synchronistic charts of Maggie, Paul, Buster, and Judge Clifton Newman? To support your fave podcast? Leave a 5-star review & Join the Patreon!!! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In today's episode, Tony talks with Anne Bremner, one of the nation's leading legal analysts, about the testimony of Alex Murdaugh's brother John Marvin. Anne provides expert analysis on the unusual involvement of a family member in a murder trial and how his testimony could impact the case. They discuss the unprecedented access that John had to the crime scene and whether or not it raises red flags in the trial. #MurdaughTrial #LegalExpert #CrimeScene Want to listen to ALL of our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases:     Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski (All Cases) - https://availableon.com/universityofidahomurderspodcast4killedforwhat Chad & Lori Daybell -   https://availableon.com/demiseofthedaybellsthelorichaddaybellstory   The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://availableon.com/findinganathisdisappearanceofanawalshe Alex Murdaugh - https://availableon.com/thetrialofalexmurdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://availableon.com/theidahomurdersthecaseagainstbryankohberger True Crime Today (All Cases & EXTRA Commentary) - https://availableon.com/truecrimetodayatruecrimepodcast  Follow Tony Brueski On Twitter https://twitter.com/tonybpod Join our Facebook Discussion Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/834636321133

In today's episode, Tony talks with Anne Bremner, one of the nation's leading legal analysts, about the testimony of Alex Murdaugh's brother John Marvin. Anne provides expert analysis on the unusual involvement of a family member in a murder trial and how his testimony could impact the case. They discuss the unprecedented access that John had to the crime scene and whether or not it raises red flags in the trial. #MurdaughTrial #LegalExpert #CrimeScene Want to listen to ALL of our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases:     Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski (All Cases) - https://availableon.com/universityofidahomurderspodcast4killedforwhat Chad & Lori Daybell -   https://availableon.com/demiseofthedaybellsthelorichaddaybellstory   The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://availableon.com/findinganathisdisappearanceofanawalshe Alex Murdaugh - https://availableon.com/thetrialofalexmurdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://availableon.com/theidahomurdersthecaseagainstbryankohberger True Crime Today (All Cases & EXTRA Commentary) - https://availableon.com/truecrimetodayatruecrimepodcast  Follow Tony Brueski On Twitter https://twitter.com/tonybpod Join our Facebook Discussion Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/834636321133

On Monday, John Marvin, the brother of Alex Murdaugh, took the stand in the family murder trial in South Carolina. During his testimony, the prosecutor questioned him about his involvement in the investigation and his understanding of his brother's actions and statements. The testimony provided new information and perspective in the high-profile case. #JohnMarvin #AlexMurdaugh #FamilyMurderTrial #SouthCarolina #Testimony Want to listen to ALL of our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases:     Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski (All Cases) - https://availableon.com/universityofidahomurderspodcast4killedforwhat Chad & Lori Daybell -   https://availableon.com/demiseofthedaybellsthelorichaddaybellstory   The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://availableon.com/findinganathisdisappearanceofanawalshe Alex Murdaugh - https://availableon.com/thetrialofalexmurdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://availableon.com/theidahomurdersthecaseagainstbryankohberger True Crime Today (All Cases & EXTRA Commentary) - https://availableon.com/truecrimetodayatruecrimepodcast  Follow Tony Brueski On Twitter https://twitter.com/tonybpod Join our Facebook Discussion Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/834636321133

John Marvin, the brother of Alex Murdaugh, testified in the trial of his sibling, who is accused of killing his wife and son. John Marvin claimed that he tracked down Maggie's missing phone using the "Find My iPhone" app and showed investigators the location of the phone before going to search for it himself. The prosecution and defense both questioned John Marvin about his actions, with the prosecution suggesting that his actions may have contaminated the evidence, and the defense suggesting that his actions showed his dedication to finding the truth. The testimony of John Marvin adds another layer to the already complex case against Alex Murdaugh, and highlights the desperation and determination of those seeking justice for Maggie and Paul. #MurdaughTrial #JusticeForMaggie Want to listen to ALL of our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases:     Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski (All Cases) - https://availableon.com/universityofidahomurderspodcast4killedforwhat Chad & Lori Daybell -   https://availableon.com/demiseofthedaybellsthelorichaddaybellstory   The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://availableon.com/findinganathisdisappearanceofanawalshe Alex Murdaugh - https://availableon.com/thetrialofalexmurdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://availableon.com/theidahomurdersthecaseagainstbryankohberger True Crime Today (All Cases & EXTRA Commentary) - https://availableon.com/truecrimetodayatruecrimepodcast  Follow Tony Brueski On Twitter https://twitter.com/tonybpod Join our Facebook Discussion Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/834636321133

John Marvin, the brother of Alex Murdaugh, testified in the trial of his sibling, who is accused of killing his wife and son. John Marvin claimed that he tracked down Maggie's missing phone using the "Find My iPhone" app and showed investigators the location of the phone before going to search for it himself. The prosecution and defense both questioned John Marvin about his actions, with the prosecution suggesting that his actions may have contaminated the evidence, and the defense suggesting that his actions showed his dedication to finding the truth. The testimony of John Marvin adds another layer to the already complex case against Alex Murdaugh, and highlights the desperation and determination of those seeking justice for Maggie and Paul. #MurdaughTrial #JusticeForMaggie Want to listen to ALL of our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases:     Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski (All Cases) - https://availableon.com/universityofidahomurderspodcast4killedforwhat Chad & Lori Daybell -   https://availableon.com/demiseofthedaybellsthelorichaddaybellstory   The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://availableon.com/findinganathisdisappearanceofanawalshe Alex Murdaugh - https://availableon.com/thetrialofalexmurdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://availableon.com/theidahomurdersthecaseagainstbryankohberger True Crime Today (All Cases & EXTRA Commentary) - https://availableon.com/truecrimetodayatruecrimepodcast  Follow Tony Brueski On Twitter https://twitter.com/tonybpod Join our Facebook Discussion Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/834636321133

On Monday, John Marvin, the brother of Alex Murdaugh, took the stand in the family murder trial in South Carolina. During his testimony, the prosecutor questioned him about his involvement in the investigation and his understanding of his brother's actions and statements. The testimony provided new information and perspective in the high-profile case. #JohnMarvin #AlexMurdaugh #FamilyMurderTrial #SouthCarolina #Testimony Want to listen to ALL of our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases:     Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski (All Cases) - https://availableon.com/universityofidahomurderspodcast4killedforwhat Chad & Lori Daybell -   https://availableon.com/demiseofthedaybellsthelorichaddaybellstory   The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://availableon.com/findinganathisdisappearanceofanawalshe Alex Murdaugh - https://availableon.com/thetrialofalexmurdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://availableon.com/theidahomurdersthecaseagainstbryankohberger True Crime Today (All Cases & EXTRA Commentary) - https://availableon.com/truecrimetodayatruecrimepodcast  Follow Tony Brueski On Twitter https://twitter.com/tonybpod Join our Facebook Discussion Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/834636321133

John Marvin Murdaugh, the younger brother of Alex Murdaugh gave an often times emotional testimony in court yesterday where he described his close relationship with his nephew Paul and the horrendous scene he encountered the next morning when he went to clean up the scene where the murders occurred. John Marvin Murdaugh also called into question several of the prosecutions main allegations and when asked about the pivotal blue rain coat, he said that he has never seen it before. (commercial at 15:24)to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comsource:Alex Murdaugh's brother John Marvin breaks down telling trial how he ‘cleaned up' what was left of nephew Paul | The Independent

John Marvin Murdaugh, the younger brother of Alex Murdaugh gave an often times emotional testimony in court yesterday where he described his close relationship with his nephew Paul and the horrendous scene he encountered the next morning when he went to clean up the scene where the murders occurred. John Marvin Murdaugh also called into question several of the prosecutions main allegations and when asked about the pivotal blue rain coat, he said that he has never seen it before. (commercial at 15:24)to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comsource:Alex Murdaugh's brother John Marvin breaks down telling trial how he ‘cleaned up' what was left of nephew Paul | The Independent

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Alex Murdaugh's brother took the stand and testified in the family murders trial that's shaking up South Carolina on Monday. During an emotional day on the stand, John Marvin Murdaugh gave his version of events, detailing his knowledge of the investigation and his brother's actions after Maggie and Paul were shot to death.John Marvin Murdaugh gave his version of events, detailing his knowledge of the investigation and his brother's actions after Maggie and Paul were shot to death. The Law&Crime Network's Jesse Weber breaks down six crucial moments from John Marvin's testimony.LAW&CRIME SIDEBAR PRODUCTION:YouTube Management - Bobby SzokePodcasting - Sam GoldbergWriting & Video Editing - Michael DeiningerGuest Booking - Alyssa FisherSocial Media Management - Vanessa Bein & Kiera BronsonSUBSCRIBE TO OUR OTHER PODCASTS:Court JunkieObjectionsThey Walk Among AmericaCoptales and CocktailsThe Disturbing TruthSpeaking FreelyLAW&CRIME NETWORK SOCIAL MEDIA:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lawandcrime/Twitter: https://twitter.com/LawCrimeNetworkFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/lawandcrimeTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/lawandcrimenetworkTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lawandcrimeSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In a shocking act of boldness, Buster Murdaugh brazenly defied the court during his father's double murder trial in South Carolina. With stunning audacity, the freshly-minted law graduate reportedly launched into a fit of rage, knocking over a water bottle, after security asked him to move from the front row. The tension reached a boiling point as Lynn, Buster's sister, was caught passing a secret note to his lawyer, resulting in both siblings receiving a warning of a potential ban from the trial. Meanwhile, Buster's brothers, Randy and John Marvin, escaped unscathed. Rumors ran rampant that Buster's obscene gesture, captured on camera, showed him gnawing on his middle finger as Mark Tinsley, the lawyer for Mallory Beach's family, gave his testimony. Tinsley accused Buster of attempting to intimidate and bully him, as Tinsley pursued legal action against him for the boat crash that claimed the life of 19-year-old Mallory in February 2019. Throughout the trial, Buster has been a constant presence, often accompanied by his girlfriend, Brooklynn White. Meanwhile, Lynn, Randy, and John Marvin have also attended most of the proceedings, adding to the drama in the courtroom. Unlock a world of mystery and intrigue with our Ad-Free Podcasts. Subscribe now through Apple Podcasts and experience three days of unlimited, uninterrupted listening. https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Embark on a journey of discovery with our captivating cases: Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski (All Cases) - https://availableon.com/universityofidahomurderspodcast4changedforwhat The shocking true story of Chad & Lori Daybell - https://availableon.com/demiseofthedaybellsthelorichaddaybellstory The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://availableon.com/findinganathisdisappearanceofanawalshe The Trial of Alex Murdaugh - https://availableon.com/thetrialofalexmurdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://availableon.com/theidahomurdersthecaseagainstbryankohberger True Crime Today (All Cases & EXTRA Commentary) - https://availableon.com/truecrimetodayatruecrimepodcast Join the conversation on Twitter with Tony Brueski - https://twitter.com/tonybpod And be a part of our Facebook Discussion Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/834636321133 Don't miss a beat in the world of true crime. Subscribe now!

In a shocking act of boldness, Buster Murdaugh brazenly defied the court during his father's double murder trial in South Carolina. With stunning audacity, the freshly-minted law graduate reportedly launched into a fit of rage, knocking over a water bottle, after security asked him to move from the front row. The tension reached a boiling point as Lynn, Buster's sister, was caught passing a secret note to his lawyer, resulting in both siblings receiving a warning of a potential ban from the trial. Meanwhile, Buster's brothers, Randy and John Marvin, escaped unscathed. Rumors ran rampant that Buster's obscene gesture, captured on camera, showed him gnawing on his middle finger as Mark Tinsley, the lawyer for Mallory Beach's family, gave his testimony. Tinsley accused Buster of attempting to intimidate and bully him, as Tinsley pursued legal action against him for the boat crash that claimed the life of 19-year-old Mallory in February 2019. Throughout the trial, Buster has been a constant presence, often accompanied by his girlfriend, Brooklynn White. Meanwhile, Lynn, Randy, and John Marvin have also attended most of the proceedings, adding to the drama in the courtroom. Unlock a world of mystery and intrigue with our Ad-Free Podcasts. Subscribe now through Apple Podcasts and experience three days of unlimited, uninterrupted listening. https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Embark on a journey of discovery with our captivating cases: Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski (All Cases) - https://availableon.com/universityofidahomurderspodcast4changedforwhat The shocking true story of Chad & Lori Daybell - https://availableon.com/demiseofthedaybellsthelorichaddaybellstory The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://availableon.com/findinganathisdisappearanceofanawalshe The Trial of Alex Murdaugh - https://availableon.com/thetrialofalexmurdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://availableon.com/theidahomurdersthecaseagainstbryankohberger True Crime Today (All Cases & EXTRA Commentary) - https://availableon.com/truecrimetodayatruecrimepodcast Join the conversation on Twitter with Tony Brueski - https://twitter.com/tonybpod And be a part of our Facebook Discussion Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/834636321133 Don't miss a beat in the world of true crime. Subscribe now!

Mandy, Liz, and the team dive deeper into the jailhouse phone calls with shocking revelations. After listening – and relistening – to hours upon hours of of tapes, we have a better understanding of how Alex's family sees this tangled web playing out in the media.  You'll hear what Alex says, and doesn't say about Maggie and Paul in heart wrenching, but very telling conversations with Buster, John Marvin and Liz Murdaugh. Plus an update on Eddie Smith's arrest, and the money laundering, drug and other charges he faces with alleged co-conspirator Alex Murdaugh. The Murdaugh Murders Podcast is created by Mandy Matney and Luna Shark Productions. Our Executive Editor is Liz Farrell. Advertising is curated by the talented team at AdLarge Media. To learn more about Life After Loss: Adjusting To A New Reality, By Luge Hardman visit: https://amzn.to/3n8X8SD Find us on social media: https://www.facebook.com/MurdaughPod/ https://www.instagram.com/murdaughmurderspod/ ** Click to ADVERTISE WITH OUR MEDIA PARTNERS AT FITSNEWS.COM ** For current and accurate updates: FITSNews.com or Twitter.com/mandymatney Support Our Podcast at: https://murdaughmurderspodcast.com/support-the-show Please consider sharing your support by leaving a review on Apple at the following link: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/murdaugh-murders-podcast/id1573560247 Support the Reporting: https://www.fitsnews.com/fitsnews-subscription-options Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mandy, Liz, and the team dive deeper into the jailhouse phone calls with shocking revelations. After listening – and relistening – to hours upon hours of of tapes, we have a better understanding of how Alex's family sees this tangled web playing out in the media.  You'll hear what Alex says, and doesn't say about Maggie and Paul in heart wrenching, but very telling conversations with Buster, John Marvin and Liz Murdaugh. Plus an update on Eddie Smith's arrest, and the money laundering, drug and other charges he faces with alleged co-conspirator Alex Murdaugh. The Murdaugh Murders Podcast is created by Mandy Matney and Luna Shark Productions. Our Executive Editor is Liz Farrell. Advertising is curated by the talented team at AdLarge Media. To learn more about Life After Loss: Adjusting To A New Reality, By Luge Hardman visit: https://amzn.to/3n8X8SD Find us on social media: https://www.facebook.com/MurdaughPod/ https://www.instagram.com/murdaughmurderspod/ For current and accurate updates: Twitter.com/mandymatney Support Our Podcast at: https://murdaughmurderspodcast.com/support-the-show Please consider sharing your support by leaving a review on Apple at the following link: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/murdaugh-murders-podcast/id1573560247 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Seton talked with John Marvin, Alex's brother, about what he remembers about the day of the Maggie & Paul's murder. Was Paul under house arrest? Did Paul drive to Moselle with his mother? Plus, we talk to a weapons expert about the weapons reported to have been used in the homicides.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-murdaugh-family-murders-impact-of-influence/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Seton talked to Alex's brother, John Marvin, about the night of the murders. Plus, John Marvin discussed the role he played in helping find Maggie's phone the day after the double homicide. Also; the private investigator who followed Paul Murdaugh clears up when she was watching him.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-murdaugh-family-murders-impact-of-influence/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Are the Murdaugh's in the middle of PR push? And what happened to all of the money? In episode 38, Mandy Matney, and Liz Farrell unpack a ton of information that came out about the Murdaugh family in the last week.   We talk about possible tampering with evidence at the double homicide scene. And a mysterious check from Alex to a local police chief.  And a special thank you to our sponsors: Cerebral, Hunt-A-Killer, Priceline, Embark Vet, VOURI, Hello Fresh, Babbel, Article, and others. The Murdaugh Murders Podcast is created by Mandy Matney and produced by Luna Shark Productions. Our Executive Editor is Liz Farrell. Advertising is curated by the talented team at AdLarge Media. Find us on social media: https://www.facebook.com/MurdaughPod/ https://www.instagram.com/murdaughmurderspod/ ** Click to ADVERTISE WITH OUR MEDIA PARTNERS AT FITSNEWS.COM ** For current and accurate updates: Fitsnews.com or Twitter.com/mandymatney Support Our Podcast at: https://murdaughmurderspodcast.com/support-the-show Please consider sharing your support by leaving a review on Apple at the following link: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/murdaugh-murders-podcast/id1573560247 Support the Reporting: https://www.fitsnews.com/fitsnews-subscription-options Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Are the Murdaugh's in the middle of PR push? And what happened to all of the money? In episode 38, Mandy Matney, and Liz Farrell unpack a ton of information that came out about the Murdaugh family in the last week.   We talk about possible tampering with evidence at the double homicide scene. And a mysterious check from Alex to a local police chief.  To view Gregory Alexander's full campaign video click here. And a special thank you to our sponsors: Cerebral, Hunt-A-Killer, Priceline, Embark Vet, VOURI, Hello Fresh, Babbel, Article, and others. The Murdaugh Murders Podcast is created by Mandy Matney and produced by Luna Shark Productions. Our Executive Editor is Liz Farrell. Advertising is curated by the talented team at AdLarge Media. Find us on social media: https://www.facebook.com/MurdaughPod/ https://www.instagram.com/murdaughmurderspod/ For current and accurate updates: Twitter.com/mandymatney Support Our Podcast at: https://murdaughmurderspodcast.com/support-the-show Please consider sharing your support by leaving a review on Apple at the following link: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/murdaugh-murders-podcast/id1573560247 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Get a rare inside look into the Murdaugh family dynamic and Alex Murdaugh's manipulations from behind bars. In this episode, Mandy Matney and Liz Farrell share recordings of Alex Murdaugh's jailhouse phone calls to his son Buster, brothers John Marvin and Randy, sister Lynn and sister-in-law Liz. These gripping calls reveal a supportive family that seems to be held captive by an utter narcissist who is really good at getting people to do what he wants. Listen in as John Marvin informs Alex about the fallout from Alex's alleged crimes. Hear Buster's take on getting recognized while gambling in Las Vegas and his warning to Alex, “I'm not saying you are, but I really hope you're not doing anything you shouldn't be doing in there.”  And witness Alex's desperate attempts to get his sister-in-law to put money on another inmate's account. See more videos on the Murdaugh Murders here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPC7aLBzSFHqIz_jDachzQA And a special thank you to our sponsors: Cerebral, Hunt-A-Killer, Bannon Law Group, Nature's Highway CBD, Embark Vet, VOURI, Hello Fresh and others. The Murdaugh Murders Podcast is created by Mandy Matney and produced by Luna Shark Productions. Our Executive Writer is Liz Farrell. Advertising is curated by the talented team at AdLarge Media. Find us on social media: https://www.facebook.com/MurdaughPod/ https://www.instagram.com/murdaughmurderspod/ For current and accurate updates: Twitter.com/mandymatney Support Our Podcast at: https://murdaughmurderspodcast.com/support-the-show Please consider sharing your support by leaving a review on Apple at the following link: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/murdaugh-murders-podcast/id1573560247 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Get a rare inside look into the Murdaugh family dynamic and Alex Murdaugh's manipulations from behind bars. In this episode, Mandy Matney and Liz Farrell share recordings of Alex Murdaugh's jailhouse phone calls to his son Buster, brothers John Marvin and Randy, sister Lynn and sister-in-law Liz. These gripping calls reveal a supportive family that seems to be held captive by an utter narcissist who is really good at getting people to do what he wants. Listen in as John Marvin informs Alex about the fallout from Alex's alleged crimes. Hear Buster's take on getting recognized while gambling in Las Vegas and his warning to Alex, “I'm not saying you are, but I really hope you're not doing anything you shouldn't be doing in there.”  And witness Alex's desperate attempts to get his sister-in-law to put money on another inmate's account. See more videos on the Murdaugh Murders here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPC7aLBzSFHqIz_jDachzQA And a special thank you to our sponsors: Cerebral, Hunt-A-Killer, Bannon Law Group, Nature's Highway CBD, Embark Vet, VOURI, Hello Fresh and others. The Murdaugh Murders Podcast is created by Mandy Matney and produced by Luna Shark Productions. Our Executive Writer is Liz Farrell. Advertising is curated by the talented team at AdLarge Media. Find us on social media: https://www.facebook.com/MurdaughPod/ https://www.instagram.com/murdaughmurderspod/ For current and accurate updates: Fitsnews.com or Twitter.com/mandymatney Support Our Podcast at: https://murdaughmurderspodcast.com/support-the-show Please consider sharing your support by leaving a review on Apple at the following link: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/murdaugh-murders-podcast/id1573560247 Support the Reporting: https://www.fitsnews.com/fitsnews-subscription-options Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Quatre concerts regroupés sous l’appellation "The Virtual Road" seront proposés pour la première fois en streaming sur le channel Youtube de U2. Wolfgang Van Halen est revenu sur l’hommage rendu à son père lors de la cérémonie des Grammy Awards. Rock Werchter n’aura pas lieu cette année. Jon Bon Jovi est revenu sur ses débuts dans la musique, lorsqu’il croisait David Bowie, Freddie Mercury et les Stones en studio. Elton John a donné son avis sur le refus du Vatican d’autoriser les mariages homosexuels. Pour les 50 ans de "What’s Going On ?" de Marvin Gaye, quelques artistes ont rendu un très bel hommage au chanteur défunt lors de la soirée des Grammy à découvrir sur notre site classic21.be. --- Classic 21 vous informe des dernières actualités du rock, en Belgique et partout ailleurs. Le Journal du Rock, chaque jour à 7h30 et 18h30.

In this episode of the INVISION Podcast with Dee Carroll, Dee speaks with TSO’s John Marvin, her go-to man on industry happenings, about managing eyecare businesses into the future. Marvin is president and CEO of Texas State Optical. In addition to heading up TSO, he is also INVISION’s regular management columnist and Dee’s go-to advisor whenever she has a question on industry happenings and trends. Get comfy and click play, this is a good one folks!

This week we welcome back to the show John Marvin of Dread Unicorn Games! He joined us to talk about some of the things he’s been working on and give an update on the “Gods and Icons” and “The Overworld … Continue reading →

“The enemy always puts up the biggest fight before your biggest victory.”

A Biblical basis of encountering a supernatural God.

“If you are saved, the Holy Spirit is already inside of you.”

We sit down with John Marvin and Ash Law from Dread Unicorn Games to talk about their current Kickstarter project, The Overworld and Beyond. It includes two planar adventures, adventure hooks, a bestiary and more for 13th Age.  You can find The Overworld and Beyond on Kickstarter until May 31, 2018. You can find more information on the Dread Unicorn Games website or on twitter! Outro Music: Port_City_Music_-_29_-_Night_Terrors from ‘Silber Sounds of Halloween' Freemusicarchive.org

This week we talk with John Marvin (of Dread Unicorn Games) and ASH LAW about their new kickstarter, The Overworld and Beyond (13th Age RPG Planar Adventures). They helped us understand what sort of product they’re hoping to publish, what some … Continue reading →

John Marvin, AC0ZG, the author of NetLogger will be on Ham Talk Live! to talk about how NetLogger can help your net and how to make it happen!Be sure to CALL in with your questions and comments by calling 812-NET-HAM-1 live during the show, or by Skype. Our username is hamtalklive. You can also tweet your questions before or during the show to @HamTalkLive.

Sermon: Spiritual Warfare: Kingdom Authority by John Marvin on June 4, 2017 at Won by One Church in Oregon City, OR. Ephesians 6:10-12 Philippians 2:7  

John Marvin of Dread Unicorn Games joins me again on the show to discuss ideas, techniques and mechanics you can steal from 13th Age to use in your RPG game of choice. Not only does he give great guidance on using these aspects in your game, this is also an excellent proof of concept for how you can use aspects of any RPG in the game you're currently playing.

John Marvin of Dread Unicorn Games joins me on the show today to discuss the art of game mastering. We discuss his recent series of blog post articles in which he unpacks the instant adventure format for designing and running adventures. We also talk about third party publishing in RPGs and John’s upcoming 13th Age supplement, Gods and Icons.

John Marvin of Dread Unicorn Games joins me on the show today to discuss the art of game mastering. We discuss his new adventure for Numenera, what he’s learned about running adventures from 13th Age organized play, and how to use montages and fronts to enhance your game.

John Marvin joins me on the show today to discuss his Numenera adventure The Sun Below - City on the Edge. We also discuss using fiction as inspiration for your game, getting the most out of GM Intrusions and much more.