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Watership Down is an adventure novel by English author Richard Adams, published by Rex Collings Ltd of London in 1972. Set in Hampshire in southern England, the story features a small group of rabbits. Although they live in their natural wild environment, with burrows, they are anthropomorphised, possessing their own culture, language, proverbs, poetry, and mythology. Evoking epic themes, the novel follows the rabbits as they escape the destruction of their warren and seek a place to establish a new home (the hill of Watership Down), encountering perils and temptations along the way.   Watership Down was Richard Adams' debut novel. It was rejected by several publishers before Collings accepted the manuscript; the published book then won the annual Carnegie Medal (UK), annual Guardian Prize (UK), and other book awards. The novel was adapted into an animated feature film in 1978 and, from 1999 to 2001, an animated children's television series. In 2018, a drama of the story was made, which both aired in the UK and was made available on Netflix.   Adams completed a sequel almost 25 years later, in 1996, Tales from Watership Down, constructed as a collection of 19 short stories about El-ahrairah and the rabbits of the Watership Down warren.     Watership Down is a 1978 British animated adventure-drama film, written, produced and directed by Martin Rosen and based on the 1972 novel by Richard Adams.  It was financed by a consortium of British financial institutions and was distributed by Cinema International Corporation in the United Kingdom. Released on 19 October 1978, the film was an immediate success and it became the sixth-most popular film of 1979 at the UK box office.   It features the voices of John Hurt, Richard Briers, Harry Andrews, Simon Cadell, Nigel Hawthorne and Roy Kinnear, among others, and was the last film work of Zero Mostel, as the voice of Kehaar the gull. The musical score was by Angela Morley and Malcolm Williamson. Art Garfunkel's hit song "Bright Eyes" was written by songwriter Mike Batt. It has garnered a cult following.     Opening Credits; Introduction (1.21); Background History (20.15); Watership Down Plot Synopsis (21.57); Book Thoughts (29.16); Let's Rate (50.29); Introducing a Film (52.51); Watership Down Film Trailer (1978) (56.13); Lights, Camera, Action (59.36); How Many Stars (1:40.44); End Credits (1:44.27); Closing Credits (1:45.25)   Opening Credits– Epidemic Sound – Copyright . All rights reserved   Closing Credits:  Bright Eyes from Watership Down by Art Garfunkel.  Taken from the album Fate for Breakfast.  Copyright 1978 Columbia Records.    Incidental Music:  Music from Watership Down by Angela Morley.  Available on the Watership Down 1978 Original Motion Picture Soundtrack.  Copyright 1978 Vocation Records. ​ Original Music copyrighted 2020 Dan Hughes Music and the Literary License Podcast.    All rights reserved.  Used by Kind Permission.   All songs available through Amazon Music.

Special guest Emma Youndtsmith joins Trylove for the first time to discuss a classic of ‘70s animated adaptations! WATERSHIP DOWN has a reputation for ruining childhoods, with gruesome imagery and dark implications about the systems of power in the natural world. You could read it as a post-WWII allegory, as a broader indictment of fascist hegemony, or just as a journey of self-discovery. But with Emma, we tried to go further than the striking violence for which it's remembered to pull out some new insights: Why the book might be sadder than the movie, what it's saying about the nature of nature, and what makes Kehaar an all-time G. Find Emma: On Twitter at https://twitter.com/Etuni On Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/quiltedquads/ Volunteering at the Trylon every other Friday “The Rabbits of Tomorrow: Watership Down and the Evolution of Animation” by Daniel McCabe on Perisphere, the Trylon blog: https://www.perisphere.org/2023/03/17/the-rabbits-of-tomorrow-watership-down-and-the-evolution-of-animation/ Follow us on Twitter at https://twitter.com/trylovepodcast and email us at trylovepodcast@gmail.com to get in touch! Buy tickets and support the Trylon at https://www.trylon.org/. Theme: "Raindrops" by Huma-Huma/"No Smoking" PSA by John Waters. Outro music: "Kehaar's Theme" composed by Angela Morley and performed by the City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra from the WATERSHIP DOWN soundtrack. Timestamps 0:00 - Episode 220: WATERSHIP DOWN (1978) with Emma Youndtsmith 4:00 - The Patented Aaron Grossman Summary 5:54 - Comparisons to the book 12:37 - WATERSHIP DOWN in context of personified animal animation 18:09 - The traumatizing provenance of WATERSHIP DOWN 24:46 - The Black Rabbit 31:54 - Cowslip's warren 36:14 - Woundwort's warren and hegemony 39:39 - The worldbuilding 43:03 - Ya boi Kehaar 55:37 - The Junk Drawer 1:00:35 - Good Grief, Give Me a GIF! 1:07:50 - Cody's Noteys: Animal Kingdom

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54: The one after they finished the book Scripted by John Ruths and Newell Fisher Well...we did it. We went through the entire 1972 novel in detail, taking just short of a year. About half way through that year, having started out never having podcasted ever before, I hit one of the largest crises of my adult-life, and this podcast was only able to remain weekly as a result of John Ruth's extensive assistance with the script. And when I say "extensive", I mean that he has written most of the words you have heard me say on the podcast since episode 33: The Great River. I really cannot express my gratitude to John enough and hope to become more active in scripting from this point forward. He probably needs a rest!   This, effectively, is the first episode of Season 2 of this podcast.  So...what happens now? I plan to pause for 4 episodes now we  have finished the book. Then the 1978 film version: approximately 20 episodes. After that the sequel 'Tales from WD', published in 1996: about 20 episodes. After that an analysis of the 1999 TV series: about 40 episodes. After that I plan to look at the 2018 Netflix version. And then there is the graphic novel that comes out later this year. It may well be that this podcast, ultimately, has a limited shelf-life as an ongoing current podcast, rather than an archive. If so...so  be it. Is WD an allegory? (John Ruths)   "The simple answer is, no, it is not. In an allegory, the characters, places, and even events represent hidden meaning with moral or political significance.  Animal Farm is a great example of a political allegory--specifically, the Russian Revolution.     However, in WD the characters are more archetypal and many of them are personifications.  We get characters that represent basic character types: Hazel:  I'd say that Hazel is leadership personified.  Now, our Hazel does not necessarily have all of the typical leader tropes.  He's not the biggest or the strongest.  He's not even the smartest!  Hazel is smart, and he starts off as a rabbit who would have likely ended up in the Sandleford Warren Owsla.  Fiver:  The seer and visionary.  Without his initial vision, there would not have been a reason for our small band to leave Sandleford in the first place.  Most likely, most of them would have stopped running. They continue and they continue to pay off for our group of rabbits that eventually grow into a successful warren.  Fiver is also highly intuitive but Richard Adams makes it a point to make another rabbit that we'll discuss even smarter.   Bigwig:  Strength personified.  He represents brute strength and I'd also say tenacity.  Bigwig is not only the best fighter in Watership Down, he's really the best fighter in the entire novel.  He demonstrates his strength on many occasions in the book and he has a never-give-up attitude.  Dandelion:  Dandelion is two things and I've always found charm in this.  Of course, we know that Dandelion is the fastest rabbit so represents speed personified.  But he's also the bard of our band of rabbits.  Without a written language, rabbits pass their history and beliefs onto future generations via stories.  Bluebell:  Well, Bluebell is the other rabbit who can spin a good story.  But we also know that Bluebell is also the jokester of our rabbits.  In this way, he also represents a fairly archetypal character type and that is the jester. Blackberry:  Intelligence personified.  He's clearly the smartest and can conceptualize things that no other rabbit can.   Kehaar:  Not so much archetypal but maybe more of a character trope, Kehaar represents the exotic and knowledgeable foreigner.   Once again, just some thoughts on if the novel could be considered an allegory.  No, but it does have some ingredients that real allegories often have.  It is easy to see how someone can incorrectly classify it in this way." --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/watershipdown/message

53: Epilogue Scripted by John Ruths and Newell Fisher. Adams speaks to us directly as readers in the opening sentence.  It has a similar effect as when an actor breaks the 'fourth wall' and speaks directly to the camera.  "The wise Mr. Lockley" is referenced and we learn that wild rabbits don't live very long.  Hazel did as it turns out.  We don't even get to know how long he lived and the narrative is better for it. Might we venture a guess that the meaning of a "tidy few" here could be around five years? The ambiguity certainly implies 'hrair', or any number above 4.   WD prospered and so did the warren that he envisioned that Groundsel started out leading.  He was the "first Chief Rabbit" and this implies that he is no more.  We then hear about Woundwort.  He's never seen again and even high (and low) flying Kehaar never sees him, and doesn't want to anyway! This is where we hear the last quote from Kehaar in the book . It is good to know he came back.  It is overwhelmingly likely that the farm dog killed Woundwort.  However, because of his legendary status in Efrafa, why should a former Efrafan such as Groundsel NOT think that he's still out there?  In WD, he becomes a bogeyman of sorts.   We know that, as a warren, Watership Down did quite well. We don't know how long Fiver lived, or Bigwig, or really anyone else.  If Hazel had a mate at this point, she was not in the burrow so I'd guess this probably means that he lived alone.  That probably means that Hyzenthlay has also left the world of the living some time before this. We're now with Hazel during a cool and windy March morning when a rabbit comes to see him.  Hazel had been dreaming about the smell of rain and elder bloom.  Well, it is springtime after all but rain does represent cleansing and renewal.  Elder bloom can be medicinal but that may be a stretch here.   Hazel wakes to find a rabbit lying quietly beside him, who seems to have shown himself in.  The on-duty sentry should really have notified Hazel, however, he does not really mind.  Adams is telling us some things here.  The Chief Rabbit of WD has a sentry just like the Threarah did at Sandleford and Hazel still acts with the kind of humility that endeared all of us to him many chapters ago.   Hazel does another humble thing by initiating the conversation.  In the limited light of Hazel's burrow, we learn that there is a slight silver light coming from this rabbit's ears. Hazel, realising instantly the significance,  wisely addresses this rabbit as "lord" and knows that it is El-ahrairah. El-ahrairah coming to get you in person must be a rare honour. They pass by the sentry who does not see Hazel's visitor. As they get above ground, other members of the warren are out at morning silflay.  In one of the most moving moments in the book, Hazel realises that he'll no longer be needing his body so he simply leaves it behind.  Hazel was clearly dying but death comes to him in an easy way. If this is the Black Rabbit, it is his gentler face. Departing his body, Hazel's soul feels powerful and an energy flows from him that even passes into the rabbits that are out feeding.  El-ahrairah tell him not to worry about the others and that they'll be fine, like thousands like them.  He invites Hazel to come with him, so he can show him what he means. The chapter, and book, closes with Hazel and El-ahrairah running away from the warren on WD through the woods.  Primroses are beginning to bloom and this contrasts with the primroses that were ending at the very beginning of the book.  Adams neatly used primroses as bookends.  "The primroses were over" at the beginning marks the season at that point, but the fact that they were "over" is not an encouraging mataphor, as the Sandleford warren soon will be as well. This ending, where primroses are blooming, is a positive and upbeat contrast to Hazel's death.  And so the 1972 Novel, Watership Down, ends. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/watershipdown/message

52: Chapter 50. And Last Scripted by John Ruths and Newell Fisher. Dedicated to the people of Ukraine and of Russia. The Lost Paragraph resolved Before going through this week's chapter, I need to apologise for completely missing a crucial moment in Chapter 49 last week, especially given all the time I spent on the Lost Paragraph in episodes 7 to 10, 15 and 23. The last words of Chapter 49, spoken by Bigwig, are: "And if he'll believe you, Hazel-rah, then I will.” In editions of the book that include the Lost Paragraph, this is the moment Bigwig fulfills his statement at the end of Chapter 11. Chapter 50. And Last We are told it is now six weeks later. The Efrafans who were trapped when they were defeated stayed and joined WD.  This happened largely due to Hazel's civility and determination.  Fiver seems to have a sense of detachment that seems permanent.  This seems sad in a way but it is possibly how Fiver was eventually meant to be. Bigwig mentions the price that Fiver has also paid for the warren's victory over Efrafa. We know that he has a doe, Vilthuril, who he is devoted to. Hyzenthlay has a litter who are out silflaying but who Hyzenthlay's buck is is not mentioned.  We know by reading ‘Tales From Watership Down' that her buck is Hazel, however, we're not told this here.  The conversation turns to General Woundwort. Groundsel, the former Efrafan, now a member of WD, says that Woundwort is not dead and has likely founded a new warren someplace else. Silver, whom we know is a very tough fighter but also speaks with wisdom, is about to strongly debate Groundsel's assertions.  However, Hazel prevents this, as an argument, even an amicable one, will really do no good at this point. We next learn that Campion is now the 'rah' of the Woundwort-free Efrafa and this makes sense.  Hazel has the idea of Groundsel taking some rabbits out of the soon-to-be slightly overcrowded WD, combining them with some rabbits from Efrafa, and starting a new warren geographically between the two warrens. Kehaar will be able to help. The mere mention of our favorite gull has Silver mention that someone at the warren will be happy to see him.  We of course know that this is Bigwig and now the story turns to him as he is training members of Clover's litter.  These young rabbits are more interested in hearing about his experiences and we can understand that. We now hear a bit about changes to the warren in the form of a "winter burrow" and how the roof of the Honeycomb will eventually be healed by the combination of nature and the passage of time.  An idea forms for the rabbits to go over to the evening side of the wood. They soon come upon Vilthuril and her (and Fiver's) litter of four rabbits.  They are listening to their mother tell a story.  This story sounds like it is about El-ahrairah and Rabscuttle but we readers recognise it as being strongly interlaced with WD's own story. In particular the encounter with the Warren of the Snares. The young litter see Hazel-rah and more or less mob him in a good-natured way.  After all, he's also their uncle!  And then one of these young rabbits, young Threar, has a vision of a man approaching the Down on a horse.  This of course proves to be true.  Vilthuril announces that this is because of "Fiver's blood" and this makes sense.  The chapter concludes with Hazel proposing that it's time for all to get back underground again.  Fiver is seen not far away towards one of the holes and soon all the rabbits are underground for the evening. And, all too soon, the main interactive narrative of the characters of the novel ‘Watership Down' is suddenly over.  Adams describes dusk and the coming of the autumn night sky, with the constellations seen in Britain at that time of year. We have now heard all but three of our lapine, and avine, friends, speak for the last time in the novel. The chapter ends with the hopeful words "Underground, the story continued”. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/watershipdown/message

51: Chapter 49. Hazel Comes Home The Watership Down Podcast Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/468458781496287/?ref=share This episode is scripted by John Ruths and Newell Fisher. The pre-chapter quote is military in nature and is surely about the First World War.  But it can really apply to any armed conflict. It's clear that the two folks that the poem is about have survived their war.  To have been "lucky devils" not everyone made it.  It's clearly a reference to Hazel and Bigwig.  They 'made it' and no one in the warren had come as close to death as they each had.       A "fusil" is an old flintlock rifle.  So, typically, a fusilier is a rifleman and riflemen are infantrymen, even to this day.  The chapter opens with some general comments about Woundwort...pun intended.  We'll never know if Wouldwort 'made it' or not.  The dog certainly got more resistance than he'd likely bargained for.  Reading this passage closely, I have also realised that I missed another death in Episode 29, on death in WD, as the dog kills another Efrafan, beside the sentry it killed straight away and, presumably, Woundwort.  Before it leaves the Down it finds an Efrafan who was injured by glass on the way to WD and kills him.  You could surmise that Woundwort either made it or was wounded (almost a pun!) badly enough to have died somewhere a distance away.  When Woundwort is no longer there to lead, the Efrafans basically fall apart. Most of the Efrafans manage to get away.  This effort is led by Campion who seems to be the 'Holly of Efrafa.'  He's the only reason why any of the Efrafans made it back and the going was not easy.  Rabbits basically disappear unaccounted for on the way back to Efrafa.  Unsurprisingly, this includes the dreaded Vervain.  All in all, only seven or eight rabbits make it back; a bit under one-third of the number that left Efrafa. Some stay at WD and they immediately, and smartly, surrender.  Having successfully made it back to the warren after leading the farm dog there, Blackberry and Dandelion tell their version of events and let everyone else know what happened at Nuthanger Farm.  Being very loyal to Hazel, Pipkin wants to immediately head towards the farm and Fiver goes with him.  They soon see Hazel.  Naturally, Fiver stays with him while Pipkin goes back to WD to spread the happy news.   Hazel makes it back and immediately starts to gather information in order to size things up.  Once again, we see that Hazel possesses a kind of prudence that is a part of the way he leads.  He goes to see a very wounded Bigwig.  While Bigwig is hurt very badly, he does show enough humor to imitate Kehaar while asking if Woundwort "is finish".  Richard Adams is letting us know that he'll be okay. Bigwig gets up and moves into the now "devastated Honeycomb" and aren't those words hard to bear?  The warren succeeded brilliantly and has not only survived but defeated Efrafa.  But even winning has its price.  It serves as a kind of 'great hall' for this warren.  So, it naturally stings a bit to hear about it being effectively destroyed as a sheltered large underground space. The image used for this episode is supposed to reflect that devastation.    Hazel and Bigwig continue to talk and the latter gets caught up on the result of the second and final 'raid' on Nuthanger Farm.  He also learns how Hazel got back.  Hyzenthlay is nearby, hears this, and is suddenly reminded that she saw this in a very Fiver-like vision while she was still an Efrafan. At the time a rabbit in a hrududu made no sense to her. Now it does.   We're very near the end of this book now.  Just a chapter and the epilogue away from the end.  Any closure that takes place can simply be enjoyed by the reader. It's also somewhat bittersweet as the end of the story is just around the next bend in the run. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/watershipdown/message

44: Chapter 42. News at Sunset Scripted by John Ruths and Newell Fisher The pre-chapter quote is from Plato, referring to Socrates, in 'Euthyphro'.  Plato's statement that "the act is unjust and hateful to the gods" would seem to refer to how things develop in this chapter.  So, like some other pre-chapter quotes, this one is definitely foreshadowing. But it also refers to how things turn out with the Efrafans finding the warren.  Their discovery of WD is also 'unjust and hateful.'  But also 'to the gods?', given an upcoming remark about Frith by Hazel? Having just told the story about El-ahrairah besting Rowsby Woof, awesome storyteller and fastest rabbit Dandelion remembers that he's got sentry duty.  Hazel soon sees the same mouse that he saved many chapters ago.  It's not the same mouse by random accident. This is a reminder from Adams because it was the saving of this mouse that led to the warren's relationship with Kehaar and where would our heroes be now without meeting and saving him?   Bigwig and Blackavar are nearby and the former's patience with mice has not changed.  The mouse overhears and 'sounds Bigwig out'. Bigwig is ready to change the subject but the mouse has said something that has Hazel's hackles up a bit.  A comment about "another warren." Hazel presses the point with the mouse again. He adds detail about exactly where the other rabbits were seen. Hazel acts decisively, another Hazel trait.  The reader can immediately see what he's putting together. Having sent Holly and Blackavar, the two resident reconnaissance rabbits, Hazel and Bigwig talk about the warren. Bigwig has an idea for him, Hazel, and Fiver to leave the down and check out the recently cut fields.  We know that Hazel will not go for this as he wants to hear from Holly and Blackavar first.  They're coming back already and there is immediately a sense of foreboding. Not only are Holly and Blackavar back but Holly is also stamping an alarm and looks to be in a panic.  His news is chilling.  The Efrafans are here and in large numbers.  Blackavar recommends a quick departure.  Hazel won't agree to this and neither will Bigwig.     Hazel gives the order to "Fill in the holes."  To make a defense of the warren work, the Honeycomb is used to block runs from the inside.  Kehaar's somewhat malodorous run is left open and it occurs to Hazel that the Efrafans have no idea that he has left. He takes a little time to scatter some of his guano to make it look as if he is still around. Hazel then does one of the bravest things he does in the entire book.  He departs with the intention of meeting up with Woundwort, making Bigwig the Chief until he comes back.  This is a highly suspenseful chapter. The chapter is not particularly long.  Things move quickly, going from the ending of Dandelion's well-told story to what seems like the worst situation that our rabbit heroes have found themselves in yet. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/watershipdown/message

42: Chapter 40. The Way Back Scripted by John Ruths and Newell Fisher A late promotion to the podcast's Owsla. Welcome to the Owsla Nati Plavin. Please consider yourself very much a part of the inaugural membership. Chapter 40. The Way Back The pre-chapter quote is from English poet Walter de la Mare. Most of Adams' selected quotes have an element of foreshadowing and this one certainly has.  It's all about a grinning wolf being outside of the door of Dame Hickory. This Chapter open with the sad news that the Efrafan doe Thrayonlosa, has died in the night. She's the rabbit who, beside Speedwell, was wounded when the boat hit the first of the two bridges in Chapter 39.  As is the case with many animals, Thrayonlosa went to be by herself as she died. In his notes on this chapter, John Ruths told me about a cat he once lived with who did this, having first been very affectionate. It is such a poignant behaviour among animals. Hazel consults with Blackberry and determines that it is time to continue to head towards WD, as the other does are getting preoccupied with the body of Thrayonlossa.  This is also the moment when Kehaar announces that he will soon depart for the "Peeg Vater." When Kehaar flies away, it's very nice that he makes it a point to swoop down over the rabbits. Then Hazel and Bigwig see a man in his garden looking at them.  Knowing that it'll be tough keeping their rabbits away from it, they decide to leave. Adams uses this chapter to tell us more about Blackavar. who is proving himself to Hazel and the group.  He's a Wide Patrol veteran and seems quite comfortable out in the wilderness.  They are now close to a copse near Caesar's Belt, west of where they crosses it on the way to Efrafa. Blackavar and our trusty Dandelion come back from a sort of mini patrol.  Blackavar argues against the idea of stopping here, stating that this area is fox country. Bigwig and Blackavar argue but Blackavar is on the defensive.  Bigwig is being a bit petty towards him.   And then, just as Hazel and Bigwig are talking about how well things are going, a fox appears out of nowhere and quickly swoops off with a doe.  When I recorded Episode 29, on death in WD, I completely missed the death of this doe, even though the place where it happens is the last location marked on the map at the front of the book. So the revised book death-toll, including Woundwort, is 12, with 2 being killed by a fox rather than one. So Blackavar's warning was not heeded and a doe paid with her life.  Hazel suggests that the matter of the loss of the doe is closed and accepts equal responsibility as Bigwig. However, this is soon interrupted by other visitors: Four large rabbits and we already know that they're Efrafans. Campion, probably General Woundwort's most capable and trusted subordinate, has managed to catch up with and intercept the group.  Hazel points out that Campion really has no chance of success and is badly outnumbered. Campion himself seems to realize that he's acted rashly. Campion's common sense wins out and the small Efrafan group departs.  The movement of the group continues and soon they know they're close to WD.  Buckthorn is the first WD rabbit to see members of the group and happily greets Hazel-rah and Dandelion.  We also learn that Clover will "kindle" meaning that she's pregnant.  It is Strawberry who delivers this news so this may mean that he is the father.  We learn that a total of 20 rabbits have returned from this expedition, those being all 11 WD bucks who set off, the 8 surviving Efrafan does and the Efrafan buck Blackavar. The chapter closes with an account of Campion and his wide-patrol.  Yes, they departed when Hazel told them to, but they also shadowed the large group heading toward WD.  So, they learned the location of where Thlayli came from. They'll return to Efrafa with this knowledge and the pre-chapter quote now takes on a dee --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/watershipdown/message

41: Part Four: Hazel-rah Chapter 39. The Bridges Scripted by John Ruths and Newell Fisher An additional thought from John Ruths, following last weeks episode: "Do you think that maybe rabbits could 'feel' the moon?  As in could they possibly feel the electromagnetic effects?... If so, an Adams' rabbit could seemingly speak about the moon with more knowledge. Although, the real purpose of having a visible moon in the sky would be light to see by at least in my opinion." An interesting thought...  I have also had a follow up from Andrew Stevens, who got in touch at the end of September, about classical references in WD. Andrew makes many interesting points that will feature in future episodes. Just one more thing to add: I am officially announcing the founding of the WD Podcast Owsla, membership of which will be awarded to anyone who materially assists in the making of the podcast. The inaugural membership is as follows: Will Fuller Ric Morris Maxine Tubb Sergal Ahad Jeremy Downing Amber Rizzi Rebecca Porter Andrew Stevens An anonymous listener who got in touch about their relationship with the book after an abusive childhood. And finally, obviously, John Ruths, who is hereby appointed Captain of Owsla. Introduction to Part 4 The opening events of Part 4 of WD are entirely skirted over in the 1978 film, after the punt breaks free on the River Test. So, if that is your main experience of the story, what follows will be new to you as these events do not appear in any film portrayal of the story. Once our heroes are back on the Down, we will come on to the very familiar climax of the book. We have reached the final act of WD.  Chapter 41. The Bridges The opening quotation, from an american folk-song, is simply about a boatman celebrating while going home "with the girls" It kind of speaks for itself. We learn right away that The Test is a pretty fast-moving small river.  Most of the rabbits don't really know what is going on but Woundwort and the host of Efrafans are gone so it doesn't really matter very much.  Rather than just waiting for the little punt to beach itself, or whatever else, Hazel and Blackberry are talking about what will come next.  It also shows that the getaway is as far as their plan took them.  This indicates that they had not considered what would come afterward.   Kehaar's warning about the upcoming "pridge" is important as we shall soon sadly see.  This is a low bridge, in fact it is the same one they crossed when they first arrived at the Test, and the punt may not be able to pass underneath. The boat bumps and skids its way under the bridge.  Acorn is knocked into the lower part of the boat by the bridge, but is okay.  However, one of the newly arrived Efrafan does, Thrayonlosa,  seems to have been hurt and Hyzenthlay is with her.  Kehaar warns of another 'pridge' and it seems this one will stop the little punt.  It does and Adams gives us a time-and-distance check.  The boat has traveled just under a half mile in a bit more than 15 minutes, which also backs up the timings around the inappropriate use of the phrase Fu inlé from last weeks episode.  With the boat stopped, Hazel, Blackberry, Silver, and Kehaar discuss what to do. Kehaar thinks the rabbits need to simply get out of the boat and swim under the bridge.       Just as he quietly offers to go first things change and some men pass over the bridge.  This frightening, indeed for Hazel almost unbearable,  moment passes and Hazel comes to himself, telling everyone to disembark and swim under the bridge. They will just have to trust Kehaar. Moving back upstream, to the other side of the bridge, Hazel reassures those still in the boat that it is okay and says the does must swim through first, with the injured doe Thrayonlosa being escorted by Blackberry and Thethuthinnang. The group makes its way into the trough, or space, beneath a fallen tree. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/watershipdown/message

38: Chapter 38. The Thunder Breaks Scripted by John Ruths and Newell Fisher This is one of the most military chapters in character in WD. The pre-chapter quote is spoken by Cassius in Julius Caesar by William Shakespeare. The chapter opens along the riverbank of the Test.  Hazel is nervous.  Kehaar is letting him know what we just heard in Chapter 37, namely the part about tonight being the night.   The weather is continuing to build.  We now cut to Efrafa. Hyzenthlay says that Nelthilta has been arrested.  Bigwig keeps his cool, telling Hyzenthlay to gather all the escaping does to his burrow and to stay quiet.   He soon encounters Captain Chervil. Bigwig's orders are to keep the mark underground. The paranoia of Efrafa is actually working in his favour and he's in a unique position!  Chervil's off to see the dreaded Council.  Anything Bigwig decides to do will seem legitimate.  Bigwig engages with Marjoram. At this point Bigwig commits to the escape happening there and then, as he issues orders that go directly against what he was ordered to do. He says that silflay is early, rather than cancelled. He immediately goes to link up with Hyzelthlay, who has wasted no time in gathering the does. He issues instructions to the hrair does to get moving and then does so himself. Bigwig then closes on Blackavar, slips in between him and the unsuspecting Bartsia, and then viciously attacks Bartsia. Bigwig takes his ragtag group and heads above ground. He feels that the weather is his and that it will aid him and go against Efrafa.   As he races away and leads the others, he can feel the first alert stampings but he sees no adversaries just yet.  We are now back in Efrafa at the interrogation of Nelthilta. Avens crashes in and tells everyone the news about Bigwig.  The chase is on as Avens leads the group out. We're now back with the escapees and doubt is growing in Bigwig.  One of the worst things possible happens with the appearance of Campion and a small patrol.  Soon after this Woundwort arrives along with others. Blackavar speaks up in a conciliatory way and addresses Bigwig as sir. Bigwig acknowledges Blackavar and simply waits for Woundwort's arrival.  No more running for Bigwig and, psychologically, this seems like a smart move.   Bigwig and Woundwort exchange words.  We get some of Bigwig's best dialogue here and Woundwort calls him a "dirty little beast."  Bigwig says one of the very best lines of the book:  " “Frith sees you!  You're not fit to be called a rabbit!  May Frith blast you and your foul Owsla full of bullies!”  Seemingly, the storm reacts with a great "dazzling claw" of lightning.   It is then that Bigwig hears a voice.  "Your storm, Thlayli-rah.  Use it."  Things move quickly again. Kehaar attacks the Efrafans, seemingly out of nowhere. Soon we see more of our heroes.  Silver smartly has rabbits set up that will operate much like military checkpoints. Slowly the WD rabbits get the does moving while the Efrafans are readying themselves for an attack. Terrifyingly, it becomes obvious that Woundwort has improvised a plan to continue the pursuit under cover. Bigwig is needed closer to the boat.  The does are asking for him, as you might expect. He is the only leader from WD anyone in Efrafa has known. Hazel has the rope bitten, probably more than in half.  In the end, the appearance of Woundwort gets all the does into the boat more quickly than anything else could have!   And now Dandelion is separated from his comrades on the riverbank. As Woundwort is about to signal his attack, Bigwig cries "There it is!" referring to Kehaar.  This works, Dandelion dashes out with Dandelion speed, gets on the boat, the rope breaks, and this amphibious operation is underway!   Our heroes, now with a host of does, get away.  Bigwig sees the face of a defeated Woundwort as the little punt floats away and so closes Part III of WD. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/watershipdown/message

37: Chapter 37. The Thunder Builds Up Scripted by John Ruths and Newell Fisher This is the second of the thunder chapters and has a lot of back and forth setting changes, which keep the reader well informed and stimulate the building tension. The pre-chapter quote is from Uncle Remus.  It is spoken in Joel Chandler Harris's portrayal of African-American Vernacular English. The proverb, in standard American and British English, says "You can hide the fire, but what are you going to do with the smoke?" The quote is a clear reference to the secretive activities of Bigwig, the does, and eventually Blackavar who are also in the know.  Chapter 36 ends with Woundwort interrupting Bigwig just as the escape is about to begin.  Bigwig controls his emotions as he is asked many questions. The nature of these tell us that information is being brought to Woundwort.  Woundwort is starting to add things up. Bigwig was the rabbit who, albeit accidentally, got Mallow killed by a fox. He was recognised by Groundsel. The fact that Bigwig didn't mention this is clearly suspicious to Woundwort. Woundwort shares that he is aware of a band of rabbits on the far side of the Iron Road. He directly asks if Bigwig was with this group, forcing Bigwig to deny it. Then he is quizzed about the 'white bird' he was seen near, who was Kehaar, and simply says he's never been harmed by one of them before. As a parting shot, Woundwort asks about his meeting with Hyzenthlay ask him to keep an eye on her. It is intriguing to wonder if there is any chance that Woundwort might have put them all these pieces together eventually to guess their plan. Given the way he is fooled in the next chapter, it is easy to think not. This, for Bigwig, is a very dangerous moment but, overall, Bigwig gets through yet another social encounter in Efrafa.  At this point, he must feel somewhat emboldened. But the escape is over for now. He checks on Blackavar and deliberately knocks into one of the guards and even verbally dresses him down. The scene now moves to the little patrol-base like location where the rest of our heroes are, near the  river, and opens with Hazel.  Kehaar flies in and Hazel questions him about some important details that he's apparently repeated before.  Hazel is nervous.  What is certain is that the escape attempt is off for now and that their escape plan location at the railway arch, which is far nearer Efrafa, needs to change back to the river right away. We now cut back to Bigwig who is with Hyzenthlay. The signs of the stress he's been carrying is really starting to show and he's shaking. Hyzenthlay makes Bigwig even more nervous when she asks if it's possible to get away that evening.  She then relates that it's even possible that there could be a doe spy amongst the group she's spoken to.  If he lost his nerve and made a quick escape with just the ringleaders he would be seen as having failed, no matter what he had been through.  It is now the next morning and Bigwig's own common sense keeps him from panicking when he finds that Hyzenthlay is not there. It's quiet right now due to the building weather system overhead.  He hears Blackavar being brought up the run, who looks more pitiful than before if that's possible.  Chervil arrives and even he, as the mark's captain, seems subdued.  Nelthilta makes an unwise comment to him about a possible "surprise" coming up and that rabbits might be able to fly away.  Soon after they're outside, Bigwig plays a trick that El-ahrairah would really approve of.  Bigwig cleverly fools Chervil with a fake charm, consisting of a dance and a poem, while simultaneously giving Kehaar vital information about returning that night.     Some time later, Bigwig chances upon Blackavar. He uses this private moment to tell Blackavar the plan. This chapter reminds us just how intelligent and brave Bigwig can be under pressure. He goes to his burrow and sleeps. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/watershipdown/message

36: Chapter 36. Approaching Thunder Scripted by John Ruths and Newell Fisher The quotation at the start of the chapter is from a british music hall song, probably 19th Century in origin. This is a fairly short chapter but one in which a lot happens. This is the first of the three "thunder" chapters, in which the weather and the escape from Efrafa parallel one another.    Right in the beginning, Bigwig is woken up for duty by Avens.  A reminder of the structure in Efrafa and that the rabbits in the Owsla tend to follow this structure.  We learn, at least in moments of stress, that Bigwig talks in his sleep and mentioned Fiver by name. It is a tense moment but no more comes of it and the conversation between him and Avens quickly takes another tone.  The weather seems a more up to the moment topic. Unless the weather has actually turned bad, there's no sense in trying to deviate from Efrafan ways. Thundery weather is approaching but Chervil thinks it'll be some time before it breaks.  When Bigwig is together with both Avens and Chervil, Avens makes a somewhat backhanded comment about Bigwig having to be woken up.   Bigwig is then questioned about Hyzenthlay being in his burrow during the previous evening. During this conversation we also learn the Lapine word for a doe: Marli, as Hyzenthlay is described as the "Marli tharn", a term Adams translates, in this context, as meaning "forlorn maiden". Once he's outside, Bigwig immediately takes to looking at the terrain, routes to take, how to get Blackavar out, and he wonders if he is in a place where Kehaar can observe him.  Bigwig certainly has a presence of mind!  As it turns out, Kehaar is already on station and was ready to see Bigwig at the earliest possibility. Thick as thieves, they work their way towards one another.  This is like two Soldiers that know what to do and just immediately go about it as if it were rehearsed.   Bigwig and Kehaar have an effective exchange.  Bigwig can now relay instructions of their still developing plan and all of these modifications are Bigwig's. He tells Kehaar that they will escape at silflay that evening. Bigwig will lead the does to the archway on the Iron Road, where he wants to meet up with the WD rabbits. He also gives Kehaar clear instructions about attacking the sentries as soon as he sees Bigwig go back underground. This, we know, will be to rescue Blackavar. Soon, Chervil heads their way and Kehaar flies away.  Bigwig must once again play his espionage role.  He tells Chervil that, no, he's not afraid of birds like this and then cuffs Chervil as a part of his answer why.  An amazing thing for a rabbit to do to his Owsla Captain but this is Bigwig that we are talking about.   Chervil makes it clear that this little incident with the white bird will be reported and he leaves Bigwig and Avens to handle the Mark.  Bigwig is able to get over to Hyzenthlay and Thethuthinnang and provides updates, following up his instruction to Kehaar about attacking the sentries with one to them to run as soon as they see him bring Blackavar out, as the sentries will be running for cover.   He shows them the distant railway arch and reassures them of his ability to deal with Captain Campion, should they meet him.  The Mark go back inside and Blackavar is also taken underground.  Bigwig gets around the warren and once again shows his presence of mind by asking Chervil if it's okay to visit another Mark. He listens to officers of the Left Flank Mark and sees that, in this area, this group shares a larger single burrow.  He departs after hearing some stories, goes back to his burrow, and rests until it's time to silflay again.   Bigwig sees Hyzenthlay and Thethuthinnang go above ground, sees Blackavar, and also observes Kehaar flying. Everything is in place. And then, just as he's ready to start the escape, he hears a voice behind him. It is General Woundwort, who wants a word with him. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/watershipdown/message

35: Chapter 35. Groping Scripted by John Ruths and Newell Fisher. The pre-chapter quote is interesting and taken from a much longer Samuel Johnson quote that is really a prayer. Later on, Bigwig does hear from a supernatural voice that is either El-ahrairah or, possibly, Frith. This chapter opens with Bigwig and some on-the-job training being administered by Chervil and Avens. Even burying hraka is mandatory. Hraka is typically buried by rabbits being punished. You can always find those and this comment by Chervil gives you an idea of just what this place is like. From Avens he also hears an account, from an Efrafan point of view, of the escape of a group of "hlessil". We know these rabbits to have been Holly and his fellow emissaries. Avens also lets Bigwig know that the General is likely to want to take him out on Wide Patrol in person before too long. And good luck to him. He soon encounters Blackavar for the first time and we also see the word "Owslafa", a word meaning an elite section of an Owsla. Bigwig's logic tells him that this must be some scarred veteran which has earned him an escort. How wrong he is. The escort is simply because poor Blackavar is basically just a prisoner and no more. Blackberry had advised Bigwig to be on the lookout for any signs of disaffection and soon he encounters some of the insurgency, or discontented does, in this mark. We learn that Owsla members can have does whenever they like. It seems that issues of consent do not matter when it comes to the Owsla. Bigwig decides that if he escapes, Blackavar will come along. He notices that among a group of does, one of them has the attention of the others. She is reciting a very depressing poem about never being to be go outside, choosing a mate, or feeling the wind blow again. We are introduced to Hyzenthlay at last. The doe who explained Efrafa to Holly before he escaped. We learn, from Marjoram, what happened with Blackavar that got his ears all torn up as they are. Marjoram doesn't even seem to realise that Bigwig is a newcomer. This could work to his advantage. He also learns, from Captain Campion, that the Efrafans, indeed, do not like to go beyond the Iron Road and that he will be going on Wide Patrol as soon as his Mark are off Dawn and Evening silflay. Bigwig feigns enthusiasm. Soon Bigwig thinks about sharing some information with Hyzelthlay. He has her summoned to his burrow, on a pretext of wanting to mate with her. She's naturally hesitant to trust Bigwig. We soon learn that she has visions like Fiver's. It is because of this ability that she soon knows to trust Bigwig. Soon we learn that the violent escape attempt that earned Blackavar his punishment ties right in with Hyzenthlay and their recent attempts to leave Efrafa. The does who asked to leave Efrafa were split up between marks. But Hyzenthlay and Thethutinnang, the two main ringleaders, were kept together, which made little sense. But in Efrafa that doesn't matter, as long as the order was fulfilled. Bigwig and Hyzenthlay begin to plan their future escape. Hyzenthlay and Thethuthinnang will select the does who will escape, while Bigwig will focus on the actual mechanics of that escape. Bigwig explains that the best time for the escape to happen would be at sunset and that this should happen as soon as possible. He also tells Hyzenthlay about Kehaar. Their Mark is due to lose evening silflay in a couple of days time. This gives the plan far more urgency. Bigwig decides that they must therefore escape on the following evening. And that Blackavar will be coming with them. It's clear that Bigwig has serendipitously happened upon someone he can work with. Once Hyzenthlay departs, Bigwig manages to doze and has some menacing dreams before drifting off into a deep sleep. Vocab: Owslafa: An elite section of an Owsla, as opposed to simply the Captain, or captains. A term we only encounter in Efrafa. Thethuthinnang: Movement-of-leaves. A name for a doe. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/watershipdown/message

33: Chapter 33. The Great River This episode is scripted by John Ruths and Newell Fisher. The pre-chapter quote, from 'The Wind in the Willows', is all about a river as a living, moving thing, almost talking about it as if it's a living animal. Pipkin sees Hazel and states that his leg is dragging. We now see that what Hazel said earlier about his permanently wounded leg is holding true. It will never be what it once was. The WD rabbits find the river in a few paragraphs every bit as descriptive as something written by JRR Tolkien. References are made to arriving in an alien place, where you, the stranger, are of no importance. If Hazel earlier paid for not listening to Fiver, we see that this will never happen again. He confers with Fiver who gets him to settle down a bit. At this point, Hazel truly needs Fiver. They all also need Kehaar who is trying to get them to recognise a bridge. However, neither Hazel nor Fiver knows what a "pridge" is. Fiver has a great idea to get the rabbits moving along the bridge by acting in a way that will make them curious. A fish is seen and Fiver's description of this as a "water hawk" is fascinating. It's tough for the rabbits to move. They are very unfamiliar with these surroundings and even Bigwig moves hesitantly. Kehaar is putting a bit of pressure on Hazel to get this operation going. Hazel seems to agree with Kehaar's point though. The river becomes a major topic as Hazel discusses how they can all get away. Reconnaissance saves the day at Blackberry's suggestion. They find a wooden footbridge and then, the real discovery, a boat! Hazel is completely out of this. While the solution to their getaway is being solved in front of him, he's asking Kehaar if he can delay going by another day. Hazel is the leader but he's not the smartest or toughest etc. One of his talents is recognising the skills he does not have in others, and putting those to best use. In any case, Blackberry reacts to Bluebell's "water rabbit" comment with the phrases "Great golden Frith on a hill!" and "Great jumping Rabscuttle!" and gives Fiver a friendly cuff. This is his eureka moment. Blackberry is truly excited! Intelligence-wise, Blackberry and Fiver are in their own category. Once explained, the idea comes to light in the minds of the other rabbits. Hazel quickly identifies that their plan will now fulfill all three of the criteria that he spelled out to Blackberry back in Chapter 28. His words to the small group are really inspiring. There's no reason to wait and he verbally identifies Bigwig as "the leader now." Bigwig's reaction is him at his very best and bravest. In this chapter, Adams' has again shown us readers that Blackberry and Fiver are the smartest. He also shows us that Hazel and Bigwig are the bravest and possess the most leadership qualities. Hazel gives instructions to Bigwig and he accepts them. The tension of the Lost Paragraph is gone for now. The touching of Hazel's and Bigwig's noses reads like it has special significance. This is two leaders, one in charge and the other a subordinate, sharing their last moment together for the time being. Bigwig touching Hazel's nose is military in nature and is the equivalent of a salute, something certainly not lost on Richard Adams and his war service. Bigwig, without further delay, heads towards Efrafa... Next Episode: Many thanks, again, to John Ruths for basically saving this episode, as well as the next few. Next time, we meet General Woundwort in person...and a stranger arrives at Efrafa. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/watershipdown/message

32: Chapter 32. Across the Iron Road The opening quote is another one in French. John Ruths has helped me out here. He says the translation is: "Spirit of rivalry and misunderstanding which more than once preserved the English army from defeat." The person quoted is General Jean-Baptiste Jourdan, a French officer in the revolution and Napoleonic Wars. The backhanded compliment towards their historical enemy, the English, is both funny and interesting. Basically implying that an army where there is a little chaos and dissent can have an advantage. During the last chapter, Pipkin excused himself because he found the story of the Black Rabbit too frightening. Because he excused himself he was able to spot the Fox approaching them at the end of the Chapter. This chapter opens with an explanation of how rare encounters between rabbits and foxes are. The only hope a fox has is to sneak up on them downwind. So Pipkins spotting this fox is very lucky. Hazel also realises that Fiver probably used Pipkin's fear as an excuse to act as a sentry. Yet again his instincts preserve the group. Hazel sensibly observes the Fox, while planning what to do next. Suddenly a rabbit pushes past him out into the open. Fiver says it was Bigwig, who they then watch deliberately draw the fox away from the group by pretending to limp away from them. This was completely unnecessary and Hazel feels very angry. As Bigwig and the Fox disappear into undergrowth, they hear the squeal of a rabbit and immediately conclude that Bigwig has been killed by it. Suddenly he reappears and runs towards them fast. He is unharmed. A very angry Hazel begins to round on Bigwig before Fiver points out that the group are very stressed and need to get away. Hazel takes his advice. They cross the road into more open farmland beyond, where they make good progress. As soon as they stop, Hazel has a conversation with Bigwig. Hazel tells Bigwig how angry he is and asks him to explain himself. Bigwig says that he was feeling tense, though the source of his tension is kept from the reader for now, and felt he had to do something such as run a risk. And it worked. He explains the rabbit that cried out by saying that, as he made away from the fox, he bumped into a group of large rabbits, who tried to stop him going any further. As he broke free he heard squealing and concluded that the Fox must have got one of them. This is the death of Mallow, member of the Efrafan Owsla, that we learn about in chapter 37. For Bigwig had bumped into a wide Patrol. How much more luck are the rabbits of Watership Down going to have to rely on? First they narrowly avoid an encounter with a fox, then that same Fox saves them from an Efrafan Wide-Patrol that was tracking them. And that only happens because one of the group does something stupid. Maybe they ARE under the protection of Frith? Silver comes up to Bigwig and Hazel to say that he's realised are closer to Efrafa than he thought. They need to go. Hazel says he wants to skirt around Efrafa and cross the Iron Road. This next part of the journey takes place during a moonlit night, and Adams embellishes it's description with the sounds downland Birds that they Encounter during it. Eventually, as morning approaches, Silver thinks they are near the Iron Road. Here, rather than being at the top of a bank it is in a cutting. They cross it and rest in the field beyond where they are met by Kehaar. They are exhausted but he warns them that another Wide-Patrol is tracking them and they need to go immediately. Again, having aerial reconnaissance proves crucial for the group. They take cover among some trees. Kehaar says that they moved just in time, as the Wide Patrol turned back as it reached the Iron Road. He keeps watch as the rabbits sleep and the day grows hot. 32.3 Next Episode Next time the rabbits reach the River Test, where they have an idea...and Bigwig goes to Efrafa --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/watershipdown/message

21: Chapter 23. Kehaar  21.1 Burrowkeeping   A couple of mistakes from last week.  I got the Chapter number wrong. It was Chapter 22 not 21. I have corrected the episode title and notes. I also referred to Hazel as Holly a couple of times.  21.2 Chroicocephalus ridibundus or the Black-headed Gull  The back-headed gull is a small gull. They have red beaks, as opposed to the yellow/orange beaks of larger white-headed seagull species. The black head is actually dark brown and moults in winter, leaving a patch behind each eye.  Although Kehaar has been portrayed on film as keeping his black head throughout the story, there is actually a clear reference to his head moulting during the course of this chapter, leaving just a brown patch behind each eye.   Can these gulls moult prematurely if they don't get to mate? Or did Adam's make a mistake by having Kehaar moult prematurely?  21.3 The Doe-problem  the overriding challenge facing this Warren is about to rear its head: the absence of does.  The efforts of the rabbits of WD to get some does to join them has also been criticised as reducing female characters in the book to nothing more than breeders.  Solving the doe problem will drive the remaining plot of the book. The means by which the problem will largely be solved is about to enter the story.  21.4 Chapter 23. Kehaar  Bigwig and Silver are outside feeding when they come across a creature nearly as big as themselves. The creature, a bird, is obviously injured and is striking out at them with its bill in fear and anger.  Hazel tries to talk to it in the simple lingua franca used by all animals.  Its speech is very exotic and it obviously comes from a long way away. It is clearly starving.  Eventually they manage to find some rotten wood that will contain insects and take it to the bird.  Once the bird has finished eating they start to talk again. The bird denies it is hurt and swears at Hazel, who decides to leave it alone for a while. He returns to the bird early in the evening. It agrees to follow Hazel to the warren.   Bigwig learns that the gull was injured by a cat in a nearby farmyard but was able to stand up to it, before struggling up onto the Down. it lives with countless other birds of its kind in a place where...the earth stops.   On a more practical note, the gull is male (obviously) and is called 'Kehaar'  Hazel is keen to know if Kehaar will just leave once he is better. He explains why.  At this point the doe-problem is introduced for the first time. Hazel says he plans to "get hold of some does" and bring them to WD. He plans to have Kehaar look further afield for them.   Some days later, Kehaar has something to say to Hazel. He owes them his life. It's is too late for him to breed now that year. He offers to look for "mudders" for the warren, as he puts it.  The next day Kehaar makes some practice flights, then, three days later, he sets out on a "perfect June morning".   'One afternoon' Kehaar returns. It is now July at the earliest. Kehaar has seen rabbits being kept in a "box" in a farm at the foot of the Down. He also flew south. There he saw a large "town of rabbits" with "Plenty mudders".  He estimates it would take about two days for a rabbit to get there.  The obvious answer is to go to the Warren and "get some does". Hazel suggests an expedition to the Warren.  Holly is an obvious choice. They also choose Silver, Buckthorn and Strawberry.  They set out early the following morning, with Kehaar flying ahead, to navigate for them and bring back news.  21.5 Next Episode   A big thank you to John Ruths, whose notes have really helped in the preparation of this complex episode.   In the next episode, while waiting for news, Hazel has an idea. I would argue that it is the low-point of his leadership.  --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/watershipdown/message

This week Patrick is joined by guest host Kehaar, of the now concluded podcast Dissecting Worlds, to discuss the history of Capes and Tights by crafting a Mad Men style television series that spans four, maybe five seasons of comic book history.

Matt and Kehaar take another turn off from the Legendary Creators series to speak to James Desborough, Game Designer of Dark and Controversial Games, to speak on his current project; bringing to life John Norman’s “Gor”. This series of novels inspires a number of  reactions across fandom, many of them unfavorable, but it also has its own cult (and as we discuss, Actual Cult) following. We also get into: Adapting properties with devoted followings Gor as a living, gameable world for its inhabitants Dark Fantasy vs The Real World “Butting heads” (James words!) over Gamergate James website can be found at  https://postmortemstudios.wordpress.com/ and he can be seen and heard at https://www.youtube.com/user/PostmortemVideo All feedback as ever is welcome to @DissectingWrlds on twitter, dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk on email, the Facebook Group www.facebook.com/dissectingworlds or below !      

Matt and Kehaar are joined by a very professional podcaster Roifeld Brown to discuss imaginary maps although it’s fair to say we wander off the beaten track a fair bit. We cover a lot of ground, including * childhood imaginary worlds * the joy of maps * Sim City and its successors * the mysteries of Marvel geography * the greater mysteries of marvel comic marketing * warning may contain cricket (and subbuteo) * the thrills and despair of town planning   It was very interesting to have a chat with someone outside the nerd sphere - we hope you enjoy it too. Check out Roifield's pod at work here: http://www.roifield.com/podcast-2/ All feedback as ever is welcome to @DissectingWrlds on twitter, dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk on email, the Facebook Group www.facebook.com/dissectingworlds or below !  

Its Killer Space Robots (technically cyborgs) and Fascist Analogies as two 70s genre stalwarts go head to head. From the UK we have Terry Nation, of Daleks, Blakes 7 and the Survivors, and from across the Atlantic we have Glen A Larson, bringing Battlestar Galactica, Buck Rogers, Knight Rider and more! Joined by Alasdair Stuart (@alasdairstuart) we discuss: Creative Conflicts with Nations work on the Survivors Blakes 7 and it’s apparent lack of Legacy The Heirs to Larson’s “episode of the week” format Terry Nation’s Knight Rider and Glen A Larson’s The Survivors And more! Alasdair can be heard on Escape Pod , Pseudopod and Podcastle. Help sick children & sponsor Kehaar for the 10k & half marathons here https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/Andrew-Clark49 Apologies for the moment about half-way through when Kehaar is attacked by cracker-seeking Ninjas. All feedback as ever is welcome to @DissectingWrlds on twitter, dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk on email, the Facebook Group www.facebook.com/dissectingworlds or below !  

Drawing their demon swords and gruntingly grappling the inadvertently homoerotic couple of Kehaar & Matt Burrough into Moorcock.   Now that's out our system we compare two pulp titans - Edgar Rice Burroughs & Michael Moorcock   Topics include * John carpenter of mars (no that wasn't a typo!) * Philip Jose Farmer & William S Burroughs * adaptations from Netflix to Hawkwind * dodging the horror * who is the more modern writer and who is the more Stan Lee * legacy and tributes   Help sick children & sponsor Kehaar for the 10k & half marathons here https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/Andrew-Clark49   Apologies about the sound quality but Kehaar is currently recording in his kitchen and the dishwasher wanted the occasional say.   All feedback as ever is welcome to @DissectingWrlds on twitter, dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk on email, the Facebook Group www.facebook.com/dissectingworlds or below !  

This time Kehaar the Paladin and Matt the Mage are joined by Dirk the Dice of the esteemed Grognodfiles (https://armchairadventurerblog.com/about/) to tackle two umber hulk creators of roleplaying In the red corner - the quarrelling cobbler, the titan of tables, the insurer of experience Mr GARY GYGAAAAAX!! In the blue corner - the Shazam shaman, the two fisted terror of mythography, the Glory of Glorantha Mr GREG STAAAAAAFORD!! Who will win ? In the course of the Battle Royale:   Fifth Beatles, Brontes and Tony baths debates, queries and quandaries on how this hobby grew and survived. puzzles, rumours and random sidetracks   So, in other words business as usual. Show notes should not be prepared under influence of wine. Listen at your own risk. DING! DING! Let battle commence All feedback as ever is welcome to @DissectingWrlds on twitter, dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk on email, the Facebook Group www.facebook.com/dissectingworlds or below !

Yeee-haaaa! - Saddle Up partners & join Patrick from the Almost Educate podcast (the good) Matt (the bad) and Kehaar (the ugly) for rough riding through the badlands where the Western and Geek genres meet - including : * our favourite westerns * Aliens as a western? * the browncoated  elephant in the room * Modern Day Detroit and post-apocalyptic westerns * The many western homages of 2000ad * Star Wars and Star Trek * Battle Beyond the Stars and much much more    Patrick can be found on the Almost Educational Podcast and can be found here: http://www.podcastgarden.com/podcast/almosteducational  Kehaar is running a 1920s heist gave at grogmeet get tickets here if any are left https://armchairadventurerblog.com/2016/04/13/grogmeet-2016/ THere is still time to send us suggestions for Series 11! Check out our post here: https://dissectingworlds.wordpress.com/2016/04/22/suggestion-box-legendary-creators/ Symposium  dates coming soon.... Feedback as ever is welcome to @DissectingWrlds on twitter, dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk on email, the Facebook Group www.facebook.com/dissectingworlds or below !

Pull up your most comfy chair to the fireside and listen in as Kehaar and Matt take your questions on the past, present and future of Dissecting Worlds! In this episode we take on listener queries, and cover: ● Our Secret Origin! ● Marxism (and other ­isms) ! ● Reboots we’d love to control! ● Fictional Universes to Emigrate to! ● Our Next Series (and a couple of specials) announced! Thank you to everyone who sent in questions and apologies if we didn’t get to yours! Follow us on Twitter @dissectingwrlds and/or join our FACEBOOK group for more!

Luke and Col. Kehaar begin 2016 with the beginning of their look at season three. And what better way to start a new year off right than with a review of Did You See the Sun Rise? parts 1 and 2, said by many people to not only be the best episodes of Magnum, PI, but some of the best TV ever. The guys agree. Do you? Listen along, then tell them what you think! Luke Foster Cartoonist The Center of Somewhere http://centerofsomewhere.com Drawn Away: A Cartoonist Tours America http://drawnaway.centerofsomewhere.com Moon Freight 3 http://moonfreight3.centerofsomewhere.com The Gang From the Store: True Tales From the Comic Book Shop http://gangfromthestore.centerofsomewhere.com

In this episode our Northern Hobgoblins debate Orcs and their place in geek fiction including: ●     Are Orcs racist or snobbish or both? ●     The Noble Savage ●     Other narratives of the Lord of the Rings ●     Glorantha's Trolls and hateful Broo ●     Walking bags of experience points and the morally acceptable FPS cannon fodder ●     More French philosophers than ever before! ●     Sci-Fi Orcs ●     and of course numerous digressions..... The wikipedia page for The Last Ringbearer is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Ringbearer and the actual text can be found online (but may be inlicensed use of IP)   Kehaar's bookshelf is the 10 American Presidents podcast from Roifield Brown http://www.10usp.com/     Comments to dissectingworlds@yahoo.com , tweet @dissectingwrlds or the facebook group.

Welcome to Dissecting World's Lecture on the Communism - or is it an Anarchy? -  of Iain M Banks titanic sweeping space opera culture; The Culture, with focus on their spies 'Special Circumstances'. The Northern duo of Kehaar & Matt are joined by an incredibly knowledgeable David Haddock of the Banksoniain (http://efanzines.com/Banksoniain/index.htm) fanzine and discuss:   * the blurred lines between Contact & Special Circumstances  * the post-scarcity nature of The Culture & how Star Trek avoids the questions * Playing the long game and underestimating The Culture at your peril   * All that tech! Shiny!  * Plus Wiki-edit wars! Please check out the Banksonian for more insights  Remember to send us feedback on our Spies Series and DW live episode! Email us, tweet us or join our Facebook page.  The Multiversal Comics shared silver age supers is here https://clarkythecruel.wordpress.com/2015/04/11/ssas-shared-silver-age-supers/ get in touch if you want to join the FACEBOOK group for it.      Finally, Adrian Tchaikovsky, who has been a guest this season, is up for a Gemmell Award: If you've read any of his Shadows of the Apt series and want to show your appreciation, you can vote here; http://www.gemmellawards.com/award-voting/. Or vote for anyone else, for that matter. 

This month Matt and Kehaar head off into Deep Space, to chart the destiny of our very own world. Yes, it's the Dissecting Worlds Live Episode, where we run through our first live event, how it went, and what we made of it. This includes: A run down of the factions we had, and what it meant for the starting world All the crisis, and how they played out A look at the world we created, and what sort of stories you'd tell there. Some thoughts on systems, group dynamics and running another one. The Factions Speak! soundbites from all the leaders! Again, a huge thank you to everyone who contributed ideas big and small, those who attended on the day and anyone who just happened to be in the neighbourhood when we needed someone to talk to about it! Our discussion on Series 10 can be found here, and we welcome your opinions! . https://dissectingworlds.wordpress.com/2015/03/18/series-10-have-your-say/ Feedback as ever is welcome too @DissectingWrld on twitter, dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk, the Facebook Group or below!    

This month Matt and Kehaar head off into Deep Space, to chart the destiny of our very own world. Yes, it’s the Dissecting Worlds Live Episode, where we run through our first live event, how it went, and what we made of it. This includes: A run down of the factions we had, and what it meant for the starting world All the crisis, and how they played out A look at the world we created, and what sort of stories you’d tell there. Some thoughts on systems, group dynamics and running another one. The Factions Speak! soundbites from all the leaders! Again, a huge thank you to everyone who contributed ideas big and small, those who attended on the day and anyone who just happened to be in the neighbourhood when we needed someone to talk to about it! Our discussion on Series 10 can be found here, and we welcome your opinions! . https://dissectingworlds.wordpress.com/2015/03/18/series-10-have-your-say/ Feedback as ever is welcome too @DissectingWrld on twitter, dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk, the Facebook Group or below!    

This month the U.S.S. Dissecting Worlds boldly goes back to the Star Trek Universe, where amongst the idealism and starships lie all sorts of secret shenanigans. Kehaar and Matt dive in too all the series and movies to pull out valuable intel on:    What happened to the Klingons between the sly operators of TOS to the honour-bound warriors of TNG?  How the Romulan Masters of Subterfuge ended up done over by the Dominion Why are all the Spy Agencies basically the KGB?  Are Section 31 behind the plot of Star Trek VI and how would you tell?  Missed covert opportunities with Enterprise and Voyager.    Dissecting Worlds Live 2015 happened and was great fun! Thank you to everyone who attended, contributed ideas, or just wished us luck. A summary, thoughts, and an episode on it will follow as soon as we’ve recovered!    Feedback as ever is welcome to @DissectingWrlds on twitter, dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk on email, the Facebook Group or below !    

This month the U.S.S. Dissecting Worlds boldly goes back to the Star Trek Universe, where amongst the idealism and starships lie all sorts of secret shenanigans. Kehaar and Matt dive in too all the series and movies to pull out valuable intel on:    What happened to the Klingons between the sly operators of TOS to the honour-bound warriors of TNG?  How the Romulan Masters of Subterfuge ended up done over by the Dominion Why are all the Spy Agencies basically the KGB?  Are Section 31 behind the plot of Star Trek VI and how would you tell?  Missed covert opportunities with Enterprise and Voyager.    Dissecting Worlds Live 2015 happened and was great fun! Thank you to everyone who attended, contributed ideas, or just wished us luck. A summary, thoughts, and an episode on it will follow as soon as we've recovered!    Feedback as ever is welcome to @DissectingWrlds on twitter, dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk on email, the Facebook Group or below !    

The time our Unspeakable Oafs Matt and Kehaar are joined by the Legendary game designer,writer and podcaster Mr Kenneth Hite to discuss the strange intersection of the shadowy worlds of Horror and Espionage. Given the opportunity, we also delve into Roleplaying games, pretty much because we can. Also covered: ● The Delta Green setting for Call of Cthulhu and related texts. ● Nazis and Communists and the Occult, oh my! ● Double Agents, Intelligence Disasters, and trust issues ● Tim Powers' Declare ● Charles Stross' Laundry Files ● Historical Agents and Seekers of Mystery ­ Dee, Newton and more. Ken's Kickstarter, the Dracula Dossier, can be found here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1721105501/the­dracula­dossier He is also on livejournal (http://princeofcairo.livejournal.com/) and has his own podcast Ken and Robin Talk about Stuff (http://www.kenandrobintalkaboutstuff.com/) Feedback as ever is welcome to @DissectingWrlds on twitter, dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk on email, the Facebook Group www.facebook.com/dissectingworlds or below!

The time our Unspeakable Oafs Matt and Kehaar are joined by the Legendary game designer,writer and podcaster Mr Kenneth Hite to discuss the strange intersection of the shadowy worlds of Horror and Espionage. Given the opportunity, we also delve into Roleplaying games, pretty much because we can. Also covered: ● The Delta Green setting for Call of Cthulhu and related texts. ● Nazis and Communists and the Occult, oh my! ● Double Agents, Intelligence Disasters, and trust issues ● Tim Powers’ Declare ● Charles Stross’ Laundry Files ● Historical Agents and Seekers of Mystery ­ Dee, Newton and more. Ken’s Kickstarter, the Dracula Dossier, can be found here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1721105501/the­dracula­dossier He is also on livejournal (http://princeofcairo.livejournal.com/) and has his own podcast Ken and Robin Talk about Stuff (http://www.kenandrobintalkaboutstuff.com/) Feedback as ever is welcome to @DissectingWrlds on twitter, dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk on email, the Facebook Group www.facebook.com/dissectingworlds or below!

Luke and Col. Kehaar continue their reviews of Magnum, PI season one, as they cover "The Curse of the King Kamehameha Club" and "Thicker Than Blood." Drop the guys a line and tell them what YOU think of the episodes! The Center of Somewhere http://centerofsomewhere.com Drawn Away: A Cartoonist Tours America http://drawnaway.centerofsomewhere.com Moon Freight 3 http://moonfreight3.centerofsomewhere.com The Gang From the Store: True Tales From the Comic Book Shop http://gangfromthestore.centerofsomewhere.com

Nick and James cover a lot of disparate ground in this episode – from Metallica to the X-Men, from the Pope to Dr Who, from Nuclear Armageddon to Adventure Time. Special guest spot by Matt Farr and Kehaar of Dissecting Worlds. Shownotes Other podcasts: Dissecting Worlds – link Rachel And Miles Xplain The X-Men: #22 […]

A very tired Luke and a not-quite-as-tired Col. Kehaar discuss season 1 episodes "Missing in Action" and "Lest We Forget." Spoiler alert: they like them both. Now listen and find out why!

This time a Unholy Trinity of Matt, Kehaar and Kehaar’s nemesis Dion from Scrolls look at eastern and other non-European religion in fantasy, SF and Horror including: Monkey! In it’s many forms Avatar the Last AirBender and it’s sequel Studio Gibli Enemy Mine American Gods Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance Orthopratic nature of Hinduism and horror Lone Wolf and Cub’s insights into another culture. We apologise for the sounds of Dion being waxed in the first portion of this episode. Feedback as ever appreciated by email to dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk, on twitter @dissectingwrlds, and our facebook page Don’t forget the competition currently on, details can be found here. Ends 31st May 2015!

The MagnumCast episode 0 - Meet Luke and Kehaar, two guys who love Magnum, P.I. and plan to review every episode from beginning to end. In this episode the guys talk about their love of the show, their history with it, their plans for this podcast, and some background information for newbies. Luke Foster Cartoonist The Center of Somewhere http://centerofsomewhere.com Drawn Away: A Cartoonist Tours America http://drawnaway.centerofsomewhere.com Moon Freight 3 http://moonfreight3.centerofsomewhere.com The Gang From the Store: True Tales From the Comic Book Shop http://gangfromthestore.centerofsomewhere.com

The MagnumCast officially kicks off as Luke and Kehaar review the two-part pilot "Don't Eat the Snow in Hawaii," and the epic eight years of awesomeness begins. Luke Foster Cartoonist The Center of Somewhere http://centerofsomewhere.com Drawn Away: A Cartoonist Tours America http://drawnaway.centerofsomewhere.com Moon Freight 3 http://moonfreight3.centerofsomewhere.com The Gang From the Store: True Tales From the Comic Book Shop http://gangfromthestore.centerofsomewhere.com

BLURB:  In this episode a scouse-less Matt, a scone-less Kehaar & a well researched guest host Ciaran discuss Religion in RPGs featuring: * definitely real gods, faith & forgotten realms  * levelling up to god hood & the Malazan books * Glorantha & the Hero Quest * the Awkwardness of Alignment * Clerics & Paladins * Massacring Orc children in the name of good  * Roger Zelazny's god-like heroes of Amber & Lord of Light * GMing & the act of sub creation  Check our Ciaran's blog here: http://dailyscribbling.com Kehaar's writing on religion here: http://clarkythecruel.wordpress.com/tag/fantasy-religion/Feedback very welcome to: Dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk, on twitter @dissectingwrlds Or FACEBOOK group https://www.facebook.com/DissectingWorlds

The month the Sinister Cabal of Kehaar and Matt awaken the slumbering giant that is our series on Religion. This time we look at Satanism, in both it's real and fictious forms, covering:  - Dennis Wheatley, Communist Satanism, and what a tease he is.  - Worshing the Devil as Evil or Freedom?  - Real world satanic cults from Anton le Vay to Norwegian Death Metal - The Exorcist and the continuing popularity of "the cult" in fiction.  - Apocomon has to be seen to be believed!: http://www.electricsheepcomix.com/apocamon/ - Is this a book cover you would take on the bus? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Dennis-Wheatley/dp/185375790X/ref=la_B001HCYTPW_1_2? - Bedazzled is well worth a watch (not the remake!) http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bedazzled-DVD-Peter-Cook/dp/B0009KKW9U/ Stay tuned at the end for the first recommendations of the Dissecting Worlds Bookshelf.  Feedback is always welcome by emails to dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk , tweets to @dissectingwrlds & on our Facebook page.

Joined by uber-feedbacker Peter Hammerson regulars Matt and Kehaar review the series on Alternative History including: * Victorious Nazis in DC comics and Others * Kim Stanley Robinson & the Human Condition. * Red Son and other Superhero Alternatives * African Americans in the American War of Independence * Mary Seacroft, the Crimea, the teaching of history and lost alternatives  * %@#! Sliders * Steampunk - it's a design aesthetic stupid! * American Civil War vs Quentin Tarantino * Elizabethan Alternates coming out of the fall of Rome * Technothrillers, Clive Cussler and The Scorpion. Links mentioned:  * Jordon Harbour's "Twilight Histories" Podcast http://www.twilighthistories.com/about/ *The Ayn Rand filibuster: http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php/timelines/the_fountainhead_fillibuster_-_tales_from_objectivist_katanga * The Alternative History Weekly Update Blog http://alternatehistoryweeklyupdate.blogspot.co.uk/ Feedback welcome at dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk  or @dissectingwrlds

This time Mr K. Seagull Esquire & Lord Grampus take to their skies in their tea-powered ornithopter to explore the lost continents of the steampunk genre.  Grab your bowler hat, carpet bag & umbrella and brave the onslaught: * where's the science in steampunk? * Chappisim, situationism & subculture * Victoriana's Heart of Darkness * the green vegetables in pulp fiction * Retrotechnology and Tourism * Space 1889, Castle Falkenstein, the Difference Engine, Professor Elemental, Jules Verne, HG Wells, Shadows of the Apt & Bas Lang amongst others  Tally Ho! Feedback to Kehaar @clarkythecruel or Matt @thegrampus or dictate a missive to your electronic secretary & send it to dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk  Kehaar's roleplaying campaign podcast is here:  http://clarkythecruel.wordpress.com/category/drakesdoom/feed/ and Matt's Movember page is here: http://mobro.co/mattfarr2 

Welcome, boys and girls, to a very spooky episode of Stacey's Pop Culture Parlour! Joining Stacey this month is the other half of Dissecting Worlds and tip-top gent; Kehaar and somehow, without any forward planning, they both managed to read & watch several creepy and scary Halloween type things! From Army of Darkness to American Vampire, Baltimore: The Plague Ships to Clark Ashton Smith, this episode is jam-packed with spooky goodies to scare the bejeezus out of you. Don't listen to this alone in the dark! Enjoy! MWAHAHAHAHAA! Episode Theme - 'Breaking News' by Half Man Half Biscuit End Theme - 'Ghostbusters' by Ray Parker Jr

Taking a break from Alternative Histories, The Dissecting Duo participate in the spirit of the Olympic summer with the first of four episodes looking at sports and games and all that healthy outdoors nonsense we both try and avoid We start by looking at team sports and could hear such highlights as: The fine line between games and sports Star Trek Space Badmington Thingy and other made up sports Why can’t the Flash run in the Olympics? The challenges of technology, distance, and interplanetary environments. The changing faces of Cricket, Football and Rugby and the problems of prediction And much more…. So sit back, enjoy & disagree! Feedback and discussion always welcome @Dissectingwrlds for the show and @clarkythecruel for Kehaar and @thegrampus for Matt

Dissecting Worlds attempts to digest 30-odd years of global anarchy & its alternate history in the form of two world wars (but no world cup!) A bumper episode including such tit-bits as: Germany's strong right hook Reds, Whites & anarchist also rans The Czech Legion & Belgian Armoured Cars Siberian tours Other Versailles A Very British Civil War  German Mediterranean holidays Halifax for PM! Submarines are alive with sound of music  Losing Moscow (yes they do eventually get to the Russian front!) America's separate wars The heavyweight issue of alternative holocausts  When Matt says 1929 Committee he means 1922! A Very British Civil War 1938 forum  here: http://gwargamesp.18.forumer.com/index.php?showforum=4 (& Kehaar's VBCW 38 efforts war gaming  http://clarkythecruel.wordpress.com/category/vbcw-1938/ & roleplaying www.alfiesantics.wordpress.com So sit back, enjoy & disagree! Feedback and discussion always welcome @Dissectingwrlds for the show, and @clarkythecruel for Kehaar and @thegrampus for Matt. 

This month Kehaar and Matt are still companioned by Luke Foster as we continue our look at the Doctor. This time we are turn our attention to the sad end of "Classic" Who and the into the modern relaunch, covering:  - The Sad Tale of Internal Politics and Terrible Coats - The player on a Thousand Chess Boards and a rare brush with consequence - The War Veteran and running away from your responsibilities - Skipping through time with the special companion (?) and Christ Complex - The Importance of being just a Mad Man with a Box All that and the usual sidetracking through Time and Space!  The link to Moon Freight 3 is http://moonfreight3.com The Incredible Hulkcast is at http://www.comicbooknoise.com/hulk/ The Trip is at http://www.thetrippodcast.com/ And ECBT2000AD is at http://2000ad.wordpress.com/ And more Doctor Who goodness can be found on the excellent Geek Syndicates very own ‘Time Lore’, reviewing the whole Doctor TV canon (and associated audios on the Geek Syndicate Network.’

This month Kehaar and Matt step inside an incourgrous blue box with a friendly stranger in the form of Luke from the Hulk Cast, ECBT2000AD, The Trip and Moon Freight 3. In so doing they pour over the long and varied history of the Doctor - in fact so long and varied that they decide to take 2 episodes to take a look at it.   In this first episode so doing they look at: The Grumpy Grandad and whose TARDIS is it anyway? The trickster clown, the beauty/brains (and the brawn.)  The Dashing Dandy, The Master and the UNIT/Republican Security Force family. Mad, bad and dangerous to know Tom and the unused Harry Sullivan  The Wet Vet and the TARDIS kindergarden     Saving the joys of Colin Baker and subsequent Doctors for the second installment.    So fob your granddaughter off on a passing resistance fighter, put down your recorder, stop working on that experiment and with a jelly baby in one hand and a stick of celery in the other enjoy our romp through leadership in the world of Doctor Who.   Check out all Lukes goodness here: The link to Moon Freight 3 is http://moonfreight3.com The Incredible Hulkcast is at http://www.comicbooknoise.com/hulk/ The Trip is at http://www.thetrippodcast.com/ And ECBT2000AD is at http://2000ad.wordpress.com/    And remember the excellent Geek Syndicates very own 'Time Lore' is reviewing the whole Doctor TV canon (and associated audios on the Geek Syndicate Network.'

This week, standing against the Vampires, Demons and forces and Darkness, the Dissecting Duo Delve into the Buffyverse, looking at the leadership (and otherwise) of the forces of Light and Darkness as they struggle over the Hellmouth.  Subjects Covered: - Who is in charge of the Scoobies? and who should be?  - Why does Giles keep getting bashed on the head, and why doesn't buy a tin hat?  - Is the Master a proponent of Scientific Management?  - Is the Mayor the best leader in the Buffyverse?  - Middle Management at Wolfram and Hart - What are the Watchers Council actually for?  and much more! Comments to dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.ukor harass us at @theGrampus for Matt or @clarkythecruel for Kehaar or for plain unadulterated pod news @DissectingWrlds

This month we wander through the Wardrobe of Geek Analysis to the magical land of Narnia. Joined by Timothy Swann of the Psycomedia (and others!) podcast, we plunge into the frozen wastes of fantasy godhood in the shape of everyone’s favourite Divine Lion. Subjects Covered: - Lewis vs Tolkien, the Inklings, and parallel development - His Dark Materials, Phillip Pullman and unintended messages - Creation and Management of your own universe - The Merits of Biting your enemy on the face over turning the cheek - Leaders as Servants - The Space Trilogy and Middle Earth Time Travel! - And Much More! Arthur C Clarke was of course a member of the British Interplanetary Society, a group of writers and engineers who were closely involved in the early British Space Program and Blue Streak Program in the 1950s/1960s. He never helped out the Doctor or battled alien ghosts at Hobb's end.(To our knowledge...) The Charity EP Tim mentions is here: http://www.musicglue.net/purereasonrevolution/ and he has been kind enough to post his intimidating 13 pages of notes here:  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UrXvqMlrIA_N6fUy-BwlM_lUpNeuHUo99tDP-qyXNPw/editHe is also on twitter @tetrachangel and Psycomedia is a quick google away. Comments to dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk or harass us at @theGrampus for Matt or @clarkythecruel for Kehaar or for plain unadulterated pod news @DissectingWrlds

This month the Cap and Falcon of Social Science in Geek podcasting get to grips with one of the most famous Team Leaders in Superherodom; Captain America:   In a Marvel-ous (and occasionally DC-ous) journey they look at: - Attractiveness and Charisma - Wearing the Flag - Ugly Patriotisim - Comedian and Ultimates Cap - Super Teams as Rock bands  - Super Teams as Sports Teams  - Captain America's Leadership Skill Set- The Ego Management problems of playing with the big boysAs well as the usual sidetracking into some strange and bizarre areas.  And much more! Comments to dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk or harass us at @theGrampus for Matt or @clarkythecruel for Kehaar or for plain unadulterated pod news @DissectingWrlds

This month a hen-pecked trio of Matt, Kehaar and Special Guest Barry of Geek Syndicate and Unseen Shadows fame tackle the leaders of the Star Trek universe - starship captains.   -Marvel at the brains of Kirk -Wonder at the diplomacy of Picard -Exclaim at the fully rounded nature of Sisco - (And we also discuss Janeway and Archer)   There are side ambles into  Babylon 5, Galactica, Stargate Universe, Burn Notice and Magnum PI. As spod discussions do they don't get more old school than this one served with that Dissecting Worlds blend of herbs & spices on a stottie and a side dish of half 'n' half.   Comments to dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk or harass us at @theGrampus for Matt or @clarkythecruel for Kehaar or for plain unadulterated pod news @DissectingWrlds   Barry's Unseen Shadows universe can be found here: www.unseenshadows.com and is well worth a visit. His mild mannered opinions can also be enjoyed in the extensive Geek Syndicate podcast back catalogue. 

This month the DW duo of Kehaar and Matt try to get to grips with leadership in the slippery form of King Arthur.  In a wide ranging discussion they look at such versions of Arthur as:   TV’s Merlin (BBC series) and Camelot (Starz series.) Film’s Excalibur and First Knight The History of the Kings of Britain by Geoffrey of Monmouth Marion Zimmer Bradley’s Mists of Avalon TH White’s entire Once and Future King series Bernard Cornwell’s Warlord series Lord Alfred Tennyson’s poetry D’Morte D’Arthur by Sir Thomas Mallory   & in the process they invoke:   SunTsu’s The Art of War John Adair’s Action Centred Leadership model Former English Cricket Captain & Psychoanalyst Mike Brearley’s ‘The Art of Captaincy.’   And fall out over Vikings !   For podcast specific news follow @DissectingWrlds on twitter. Kehaar can be followed @Clarkythecruel by suckers for punishment and @theGrampus is Matt.

Kehaar recently attended a Twisted Tales panel event on the works of Clive Barker and - going above and beyond the call of duty - managed to snag a few minutes with all of the authors involved for Scrolls and all you listeners out there.Authors/editors interviewed are Marie O'Reagan, Paul Kane (who's own interview with Clive Barker can be found by clicking here), Mark Morris and the legendary Ramsey Campbell For more information about this and future Twisted Tales events please visit their website at http://twistedtalesevents.blogspot.com/To hear Kehaar whittering on about the social sciences in science fiction, horror and fantasy across the full spectrum of media, check out Dissecting Worlds here on the Geek Syndicate Network.  He can also be found on Twitter @Clarkythecruel (if you are a real glutton for punishment.)

A huge welcome to all of our lovely listeners old and new from the now TWO year old Small Press Big Mouth Podcast. Episode 32 is our birthday Bonanza and we have fabulous audio contributions from the sexy, gorgeous: Geek Syndicate, Comic Book Outsiders and Sidekick Cast, David Wynne, Matthew Craig, Luke Foster, Kehaar, Daniel Clifford, Rich "ear sex" McAuliffe, and more. We have the outro of gods provided by podcasting legend Jimmy Aquino and all manner of News, Reviews and listener emails. We really hope you enjoy it.  

This time it's an all Northern trio as the pest from the west Kehaar is joined by old sparing partner Grampus and Empress of the Earphones Stacey Whittle.   Fangs for downloading because we're getting into the sweaty and saline world of the social science in Vampire Fiction.   On the way there: Boffin' with Buffy Homo-Erotica with Anne Rice and the Lost Boys Feral antics in True Blood and others Frustration with Laura K Hamilton Deviance with Dresden Debonair Dracula and dirty fingernailed peasant vampires. Off kilter takes like 'I am Legend' and 'Let the right one in.' And many more sundry genre Vampires are looked at in a frank and jovial look at the subject.   Stacey Whittle 's podcast small press, big mouth is available on the Geeksyndicate network, the megacast avilable on the Everythign Comes back to 2000ad itunes feed and the supporting blogs are http://smallpressbigmouth.blogspot.com/ and http://2000ad.wordpress.com/    The Geeksyndicate discussion boards are here http://www.facebook.com/#!/board.php?uid=133321786702708 and details of the Dissecting Worlds Synposium on 6 August, Manchester, UK here http://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=122188391190426   Read Kehaar and other collaorators stories here http://cutthroatcreeks.wordpress.com/ and Matt's book reviews here http://geeksyndicate.wordpress.com/category/features/tolkien-gestures/

Joined by the insightful Brenda from the Geektress podcast to take the middle class married men shine of a discussion of gender and sex the Nort nasties of Matt and the pseudo-scouse seagull Kehaar look at sex and gender in the miserable futures presented in the apocalypse, disaster and dystopia genres.   On the way there's learning & laughter as such important matters are considered as: Sean Connery in a orange nappy in a future with only 2 bits of soft porn. The role of homosexuality, the ancient greeks and Battlestar Galactica. Does the ending of watchmen make any sense ? Is Children of Men the perfect companion piece to Bend it like Beckham. Dystopia prositution in the Handmaids Tale, Go-Go Girls of the apocalypse (http://www.amazon.com/Go-Go-Girls-Apocalypse-Victor-Gischler/dp/1416552251) and others. The bonky-bonky futures of Logan's Run and Brave New World compared with the control of 1984 or Farenheit 451. James Cameron's perfect woman. Why do the survival situations of jericho and Survivors feature such traditional female roles in contrast to some versions of Day of the Triffids. Soylent Green, I am Legend, Mad Max and Hunger Games (http://www.thehungergames.co.uk/)  also get a  look in alongside Duke Nuke'emism and the 'Two Ronnies 'classic' "The Worm that Turned" (readily available on youtube.)     All this and we never discussed Y the Last Man & Paranoia (the game)  - DOH! So let us have your thoughts - contact us atdissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk or tweet @theGrampus (Matt), @Geektress (Brenda) or @Clarkythecruel (Kehaar) and we'll have a thread at the Geeksyndicate facebook group.

A new series and a new format - wary of two middle class middle aged men discussing gender issues and sexuality the morose pairing of Matt and Kehaar have got in reinforcments in the form of 'little witch' Amy from 'Birds of Geek.'   With no blows barred they take a good hard look at sexuality and espically gender issues in Super hero fiction - principally comics. On the way there is considerations of such things as - is Black Canary/Green Arrow's relationship the only real one in comics? The Oracle character arc, is The Joker a rapist? Gail Simone's Women in Refrigerators article, Sue Storm's decisions in Civil War, Mary Wollenstonecraft's Vindication of the Rights of Women, Sucker Punch get's a kicking and Matt admits a deep dark desire.   There's some strong language and some strong opinions in this episode. (So let's hear yours.)   Link's Amy mentions http://www.superdickery.com/ http://www.unheardtaunts.com/wir  And you can hear more of her hear http://birdsofgeek.libsyn.com/    Come on the forums with your opinions or email dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk or twitter Matt @theGrampus or Kehaar @Clarkythecruel   Kehaar's game related musings can be found here http://clarkythecruel.wordpress.com/ and his current RPLG campaign here http://alfiesantics.wordpress.com/ Matt's literary reviews are here http://www.geeksyndicate.co.uk/ under the Tolkien Gestures thread.

The terrible twosome wrap up their miltiary series with a general chin wag about what've learned over the last 6 weeks.   Not a lot, but in the course of this they consider does SF ever really tell miltiary stories? Where there is space to tell such stories?. How do Computer games fit in to genre military fiction?. Is there a miltiary fiction genre of it's own? Why is Outcasts so poo?    They also consider  modern British casualty sensitivity and consider the allogorical power of science fiction and how it's sometimes wasted in miltary SF. Matt is unkind to Footfall while discussing asymetrical warfare and Kehaar is as always the steady voice of wise counsel (not.)    Needless to say they bounce around such  historical matters as comedy Nazis, Northern Ireland and the British Indian Army.   The low tech colony book mentioned is actually Seeds of Earth by Michael Cobleyhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/Seeds-Earth-Humanitys-Michael-Cobley/dp/1841496316/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1297596904&sr=1-1   Details of 'Conspiracy' here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0266425/   Feedback is as ever welcome on the forums, or by emailing dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk. Same ports of call if you fancy guest hosting in our gender and sexuality series.

With a flash of light and a cloud of smoke the Scrolls Book Group reappears on stage to entertain and amaze you.  (Or at the very least distract you from the smelly tramp in the corner, the squalling kid in the back and that really creepy looking guy on the seat opposite - No, don't look!)Ably assisted by Kehaar from Dissecting Worlds and guest contributer Gazbox in their skin-tight golden bikinis, we take a focussed look at Chistopher Priest's most celebrated work,The Prestige.  You may have watched Christopher Nolan's film adaptation and think you've seen this trick before but trust us, there's a whole lot more going on in the wings.There are spoilers throughout - we couldn't really avoid them - but have we really revealed the authors secrets... or has he left us bamboozled and looking in the wrong direction?Read the book, listen in to our thoughts, then let us know what you think.  E-mail scrolls@hotmail.co.uk or tweet @scrollscast Iphone app Extra: The first two chapters of The Sentinel Mage, the beginning of Emily Gee's new fantasy book trilogy, released in shops on the 25th of January in the US and Canada, and on the 3rd of February in the UK.

This week the bi-polar pair of good and EVIL tackle a big beast in the form of Middle Earth and it's greatest war.   In the course of their discussions they'll discuss the Fellowship as a commando strike force, logistics, Romans, how many Orcs is a lot and where are the Rangers hiding in history.   This leads to rants on Longbow fetishish, pondering Saruman as a power gaming wargamer, what do the Harad get out of all this and of course Romans.   On the way they discuss The First Law Trilogy and Legend as alternative views of fantasy warfare and a bit of Swords and Scorcery too.   Of and there is also a  discussion of kinds of Magic.   Please talk about it on the forums, talk to us about it on twitter (@DissectingWrlds, @Clarkythecruel for Kehaar and @theGrampus for Matt or email Dissectignworlds@yahoo.co.uk   We also welcome suggestions for new series and epsiode topics are next series being on gender and sexuality.   If anyone knows any Tolkien or fantasy fan groups please let them know about the epsiode. That'd be lovely.  

The wait is over.  The time is now.The Teen-Titans of the Geek Syndicate Network have come together in a bumper sized two-part special of podcasty goodness.  Celebrating the Christmas holiday in traditional fashion the Troublesome Twosome from Dissecting Worlds and the Questionable Quartet from Scrolls cast off all pretense of being rational people, get drunk and play stupid party games.  A little too much is revealed about some, more questions are raised about others and at least one fabulous song is brutally murdered before your horrified ears.Skits, Christmas messages, insults from a famous guest-host and limericks from an actual fan round off the VERY BESTChristmas Crossover special on the GSN that we have ever made, EVER (or your money back).Apologies in advance to the makers of Just A Minute, Never Mind the Buzzcocks and Mornington Crescent for the outrages we have committed in Part 1 - I'll let Kehaar do the grovelling for Part 2.Here are some made up quotes from some real people -'All my christmas wishes just came true.  I particularly liked Saruman's letter to Santa.'  (C. Lee)'Imagine taking something you really like and, and adding something else you really like to it, and mixing them up all together and then WHOP! dollopping them out onto two plates.  Well that's like this innit.  But in your ears.'  (J. Oliver)'It's like, the best idea ever dude.'  (K. Reeves)'Laugh?  I nearly shat!'  (W. Shatner)'It's the worst idea in history.'  (S. Schama)

This time the Dissecting Worlds General staff take a close look at 2000ADs premier war story Rogue Trooper and through it armies in science fiction.   On the way they look at (deep breath) Jannissaires  & The Drakan books (& apologies to SM Stirling I don't mean his views are the same as his characters.) Time dilation, post traumatic stress & morally difficult Hawkwind songs. Charley's War & Poppies, Millicom and champgane sipping chateau Generals Robots & the ABC Warriors (including Savage/Invasion) Why fight on a planet's surface when you can blast it from orbit just to be sure? 'Good' Germans, Klingons and Romulons Rogue trooper's tone and British War Comic tradition Retirement plans from Elephantmen to Blade Runner   With more call backs than a Richard herring GigI hope folks enjoy it,   Regard Plugs Mosasic novel project Kehaar mentions there are more details here: http://clarkythecruel.wordpress.com/2010/10/26/a-mosaic-novel-ideas/ And a first chapter here: http://clarkythecruel.wordpress.com/2010/11/12/mosaic-novelthe-golden-egg/   Email dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk  or twitter away at @theGrampus for Matt or @Clarkythecruel for the seagull. The specific Dissecting Worlds twitter feed is @Dissectingwrlds.'

This time Master Kehaar and First Mate Grampus set sail for the Napoleonic Wars: the Napoleonic War with Dragons.   In the process they admire the writing, society and military technology of the Tremeraire books. While at it they keel hawl the reputation of Napoleon, amputate Marshall Bulcher and pull out the guns on the nature of the HMS Allegiance.   Hammers Slammers make a surprise appearance and Kehaar gets all gushy eyed on the heroism of the period, Sharpe and Hornblower mainly stay in reserve but their presence is felt. They also admire the other developments of the time (though manage not to mention the Romantic movement - silly boys.) Jane Austin, Tom Mix and Tom Crabbe even get a mention.   So take a tot of rum, sound general quarters, scramble, stand to your guns, mount up or form square depending on your service me lads & lasses -   Do you want to see Napoleon in Windsor Castle? NO!   Do you want to see a Guillotine in Piccadilly? NO!   Do you want to see your children grow up speaking French* NO!   Then listen to this exciting epsiode of Dissecting Worlds   (* apologies to French, Swiss, Belgian, Quecois and other Franophone listeners.)'

This week a new series of Dissecting Worlds is looking at the miltiary in genre universes. This premier episode we're looking at defending the Earth and UNIT in particular...at least to begin with.   We also muster on parade SHADO from UFO, The Initiative from Buff, Spectrum and the Lovecraftian antics of Delta Green. there are also honourable mentions for the BPRD, Ultraviolet, the Intrusion Counter Measures Group (not force as stated,) & Torchwood.   In the process we consider the nature and loyalities of Earth Defence organisations, project vs goal orientated organisations, 'Bingo cards', Von Clauswitz, Military v Intelligence responses, Out of context incidents, cargo cults, the confused nature of the Buffyverse and because Kehaar is here uniforms! Lovely, lovely uniforms.   Chap with the hot air, 5 arguments rapid!   Gratutious plug check out David Wynnes comic Particle Friction at http://particlefiction.posterous.com/ and the lovely art work he did for me here http://clarkythecruel.wordpress.com/2010/10/07/the-crew-of-the-bette-davis-also-known-as-the-moby-dick/   More of Matt's opinions avialable on Tolkien Gestures on the Geeksyndicate.co.uk site. '

Finally the Dissecting Worlds pair get back on the beat and bring together the conclusions from series 2 on Law & Order and Crime & Punishment in this bumper episode.   In so doing they look at the subject in Vampire fiction. They consider the seperation of the Judicary in genre fiction. Ask why does Jonah.J.Jameson hate spiderman? They also ponder the relationship between Babylon 5 security and the Chief Constable of South Wales. Sigmund Freud and TV's Sherlock help with enquiries, and Starfleet Security's job spec is considered.   On the way they also consider the shady godlen dagger wielding almost respectable genre cousin of Sci-Fi, Fantasy and Horror - Crime Fiction & telly - CSI ends up walking into a  door taking the jury system with it and Morse may fall down some stairs.   Harry Potter, Capes and Tights and Dredd also guest star, With some parochial Marvel movie news. Ed McBain & She Hulk are mentioned in dispatches.   Kehhar gets confused bettween honor/guilt culture (refering to honour and face which are the same thing - the dolt!) &  gets told off by his wife.   It's just like an early epsiode of the Sweeney really but without the smoking. They might even mention The Wire in an epsiode with more conclusions than the Return of the King movie.   Email:dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk or twit Grampus @theGrampus or Kehaar @Clarkythecruel for feedback.   Further opinionated nonsense available at Matt's Tolkien Gestures column on the geek syndicate site and roleplaying/wargaming rubbish from Kehaar at http://clarkythecruel.wordpress.com/    The excellent Harker mentioned is available from here: http://www.arielpress.com/about.html

This series Dissecting Worlds (formerly know as Two Geeks With No name) is looking at Law & Order, Crime and Punishment of genre universes.   In this episode Matt and Kehaar shoulder their stub guns and let rip on the Justice System of the Dreddverse.   On the way they manage to drive their Lawmasters over Dirty Harry, Gene Hunt, 1970s War comics, Samurai and the Playing Fields of Eton amongst others. On the spedway they tumble past such Dredd stroies Origins, the Apocalypse War, The Pit and the current Tour of Duty.   A new name means a new email: dissectingworlds@yahoo.co.uk   With our new name we're in the market for a banner/logo if you've got any ideas get out your crayons and get in touch. Thee will be prizes. Exciting prizes. We haven't thought of them yet but they will be exciting."

Wrapping up their premier series on Empires the disagreeing duo of Kehaar and Grampus sit back relax and muse over Empires in genre fiction in general. Why do evil Empires get reeled out so often?  What alternatives are there? What about ravenous space locusts? Skipping as they do into Star Trek,  Battlestar Galactica, Firefly, The Wire, 2300 and much much more.   Don't forget details here of the Comic Forum Project here:http://www.thecomicforums.com/forum2//inde...howtopic=166930   Feedback at w.gsforums.co.uk or twogeekswithnonamepodcast@yahoo.co.uk

'This time the Trans-Penine Duo of Kehaar and Grampus look at Corporate Empires in geek fiction - mainly focusing on Weyland-Yutani from the Aliens Franchaise but also looking at such things as RDA (Avatar), Lunar Industries (Moon) as well as Pirates of the Carribbean, Jennifer Government, Lexcorp and others. We also look at such real world examples of self governing corporate colonies as the East India Company, Cecil Rhodes and International Africa Association. We then look at the narrative role these Empires perform and what treatment the Corprorate Empire could undergo in the future. There may be some spoilers. Enjoy

"After a brief schizo moment from Kehaar the Geeksyndicate networks Professors of Poncy-Poncy get to grips with the Superpower of Oceanina from George Orwell's 1984. All the likely suspects are tackled but somehow Babylon 5, TNG, Original Star Trek, Idiotcracy and The Dark Knight Returns all feature in the ID parade.   Guests stars via e Power of Note by Intro-Girl and massive Tekker Girl.   Comments and feedback as always welcome.   Kehaar completed the Liverpool Half rathon in a not bad for a fat lad time of 2 hours and 7 minutes if you wish to sponsor http://www.justgiving.com/Andrew-Clark1 and remember if you give a man a fish it will feed him for a day, but if you give him a net he can start on a Sea Devil cosplay.   The Comic Forum project details are here http://www.thecomicforums.com/forum2//index.php?showtopic=166930"  

'This week Kehaar and Grampus wrestle with the slow kid in the Babylon 5 class - the Earth Alliance. With particular attention to the Earth-Minbar War and the Clark Civil War they buffet between topics including space colonisation, first contact and relative scales of unpleasantness in war.   We apologise for delays in recording due to 'When Babies Attack' events.   No damn shirt collars disappeared or went to Zah'um in the making of this episode.     Now get the hell listenng our podcast!   An ISN special report confirms Kehaar is doing the Liverpool Half Marathon if you want you can sponsor him hear http://www.justgiving.com/Andrew-Clark1   TWGNN is also willing to sponsor a  Comic Forum project - details on the Geeksyndicate forum an executivue summary below from Bluemeanie:   "Ok, short version - if we get enough teams to warrant doing it, we were after short comic stories of up to 10 pages max. The theme at the moment is just nerd-life, but this might change if the forum gets fixed and people can actually give feedback.Deadline wise, were talking end of September which should be enough for even the laziest to get 3 or 4 pages together. Then it all gets put in a book, thrown up in Indyplanet and any and all proceeds go to the Hero Initiative.In the past these have just been a bit of fun and only shift copies to people who have something in there, but its still a bit of fun and good practice."   Interested wrIters or artists get in touch with Blue Meanie at ecbt2000AD@yahoo.co.uk or on the forums   Comments on the episode n the forms or twogeekswithnonamepodcast@yahoo.co.uk"