Podcast appearances and mentions of ryan calo

Self-driving Waymo robotaxis are now commonplace on the streets of San Francisco. Feelings about these autonomous vehicles vary — from excitement, to amusement, to outright hostility. Some have even gone so far as to vandalize the cars. In this episode from KQED's Close All Tabs podcast, Morgan Sung speaks with Bloomberg journalist Ellen Huet and law professor Ryan Calo to explore the rise of Waymo vandalism, and its roots in our collective anxiety over AI. Links: Waymo's Expansion Provokes Anxieties of AI Takeover – Ellen Huet, Bloomberg The next big robotaxi push is almost here — Harri Weber, Quartz  The Courts Can Handle the Deadly Uber Self-Driving Car Crash. But that doesn't mean the law is ready for autonomous vehicles. — Ryan Calo, Slate Good Robot, Bad Robot: Dark and Creepy Sides of Robotics, Autonomous Vehicles, and AI — Jo Ann Oravec, Professor at the University of Wisconsin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jay Averitt is currently a Senior Privacy Product Manager at Microsoft, where he manages technical privacy reviews involving Microsoft365 products including CoPilot, GPT, and other LLM products. He was previously a Privacy Engineer at Twitter, where he managed technical privacy reviews across the platform. He's been working in privacy for over a decade as both a privacy technologist and a privacy attorney. Before switching to technical privacy, he worked as a technology counsel at SAP, SAS, and Lenovo.   References: Jay Averitt on LinkedIn NIST, Privacy Engineering Program Daniel J. Solove, Against Privacy Essentialism María P. Angel and Ryan Calo, Distinguishing Privacy Law: A Critique of Privacy as Social Taxonomy Sergio Maldonado, Some takeaways from PEPR'24 (USENIX Conference on Privacy Engineering Practice and Respect 2024)

Tony Fish is an investor, author and self-confessed maverick. He has been building digital businesses since 1990, with a first exit in 1995 and many businesses founded, co-founded, sold and listed after that. He thrives in complex, groundbreaking and uncertain environments, being currently focused on rethinking corporate governance models, ethics and AI, data policy and evidence-based decision making in volatile situations. He is a speaker and author of four books, as well as a visiting fellow for entrepreneurship and innovation at Henley Business School, has taught at London Business School in AI and Ethics, the London School of Economics and Sydney Business School. His latest book (“Decision-making in uncertain times”) has been widely available since early June. References:  Tony Fish, Decision-making in uncertain times  Tony Fish, Why is data eating your culture before breakfast My Digital Footprint, a blog by Tony Fish  Open Governance (Tony Fish on Medium) Tony Fish on LinkedIn Distinguishing Privacy Law: A Critique of Privacy as Social Taxonomy (María P. Angel, Ryan Calo).

Ryan Calo, Professor of Law at the University of Washington, joins Kevin Frazier, Assistant Professor at St. Thomas College of Law and a Tarbell Fellow at Lawfare, to discuss how advances in AI are undermining already insufficient privacy protections. The two dive into Calo's recent testimony before the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation. Their conversation also covers the novel privacy issues presented by AI and the merits of different regulatory strategies at both the state and federal level.To receive ad-free podcasts, become a Lawfare Material Supporter at www.patreon.com/lawfare. You can also support Lawfare by making a one-time donation at https://givebutter.com/c/trumptrials.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this exclusive live session, Luiza Jarovsky discusses with Prof. Ryan Calo his article "Socio-Digital Vulnerability" (co-authored with Daniella DiPaola), as well as his scholarship around topics such as:online manipulationrobot lawartificial intelligenceprivacyand online vulnerabilityThis conversation will be extremely valuable to anyone working in tech, privacy, and artificial intelligence.Ryan Calo is the Lane Powell and D. Wayne Gittinger Professor at the University of Washington School of Law, a founding co-director of the interdisciplinary UW Tech Policy Lab, and a co-founder of the UW Center for an Informed Public. He is an internationally recognized and leading expert in his field, and his research on law and emerging technology appears in leading law reviews and technical publications. He has testified three times before the United States Senate and organized events on behalf of the National Science Foundation, the National Academy of Sciences, and the Obama White House. He has been a speaker at President Obama's Frontiers Conference, the Aspen Ideas Festival, and NPR's Weekend in Washington.Luiza Jarovsky is a lawyer, CEO of Implement Privacy, and author of Luiza's Newsletter.Read more about Luiza's work at https://www.luizajarovsky.comSubscribe to Luiza's Newsletter: https://www.luizasnewsletter.comCheck out the courses and training programs Luiza is leading at https://www.implementprivacy.comFollow Luiza on social media:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/luizajarovskyTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/luizaJarovskyYouTube: https://youtube.com/@luizajarovsky

In San Francisco, President Biden convened a meeting of artificial intelligence experts to weigh its risks and opportunities and consider the role of the federal government in regulating the technology. Geoff Bennett discussed the meeting with Ryan Calo, a professor of law and information science at the University of Washington. PBS NewsHour is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders

In San Francisco, President Biden convened a meeting of artificial intelligence experts to weigh its risks and opportunities and consider the role of the federal government in regulating the technology. Geoff Bennett discussed the meeting with Ryan Calo, a professor of law and information science at the University of Washington. PBS NewsHour is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders

Our guest this week is Ryan Calo, a University of Washington law professor who specializes in areas including privacy, artificial intelligence and robots. He's one of the organizers of We Robot, an annual conference where scholars and practitioners discuss legal and policy questions relating to robots and artificial intelligence. It's taking place this year at the University of Washington from Sept. 14-16.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome to the Convivial Society, a newsletter about technology, culture, and the moral life. In this installment you’ll find the audio version of the previous essay, “The Face Stares Back.” And along with the audio version you’ll also find an assortment of links and resources. Some of you will remember that such links used to be a regular feature of the newsletter. I’ve prioritized the essays, in part because of the information I have on click rates, but I know the links and resources are useful to more than a few of you. Moving forward, I think it makes sense to put out an occasional installment that contains just links and resources (with varying amounts of commentary from me). As always, thanks for reading and/or listening. Links and ResourcesLet’s start with a classic paper from 1965 by philosopher Hubert Dreyfus, “Alchemy and Artificial Intelligence.” The paper, prepared for the RAND Corporation, opens with a long epigraph from the 17th-century polymath Blaise Pascal on the difference between the mathematical mind and the perceptive mind. On “The Tyranny of Time”: “The more we synchronize ourselves with the time in clocks, the more we fall out of sync with our own bodies and the world around us.” More: “The Western separation of clock time from the rhythms of nature helped imperialists establish superiority over other cultures.”Relatedly, a well-documented case against Daylight Saving Time: “Farmers, Physiologists, and Daylight Saving Time”: “Fundamentally, their perspective is that we tend to do well when our body clock and social clock—the official time in our time zone—are in synch. That is, when noon on the social clock coincides with solar noon, the moment when the Sun reaches its highest point in the sky where we are. If the two clocks diverge, trouble ensues. Startling evidence for this has come from recent findings in geographical epidemiology—specifically, from mapping health outcomes within time zones.”Jasmine McNealy on “Framing and Language of Ethics: Technology, Persuasion, and Cultural Context.” Interesting forthcoming book by Kevin Driscoll: The Modem World: A Prehistory of Social Media.Great piece on Jacques Ellul by Samuel Matlack at The New Atlantis, “How Tech Despair Can Set You Free”: “But Ellul rejects it. He refuses to offer a prescription for social reform. He meticulously and often tediously presents a problem — but not a solution of the kind we expect. This is because he believed that the usual approach offers a false picture of human agency. It exaggerates our ability to plan and execute change to our fundamental social structures. It is utopian. To arrive at an honest view of human freedom, responsibility, and action, he believed, we must confront the fact that we are constrained in more ways than we like to think. Technique, says Ellul, is society’s tightest constraint on us, and we must feel the totality of its grip in order to find the freedom to act.”Evan Selinger on “The Gospel of the Metaverse.”Ryan Calo on “Modeling Through”: “The prospect that economic, physical, and even social forces could be modeled by machines confronts policymakers with a paradox. Society may expect policymakers to avail themselves of techniques already usefully deployed in other sectors, especially where statutes or executive orders require the agency to anticipate the impact of new rules on particular values. At the same time, “modeling through” holds novel perils that policymakers may be ill equipped to address. Concerns include privacy, brittleness, and automation bias, all of which law and technology scholars are keenly aware. They also include the extension and deepening of the quantifying turn in governance, a process that obscures normative judgments and recognizes only that which the machines can see. The water may be warm, but there are sharks in it.”“Why Christopher Alexander Still Matters”: “The places we love, the places that are most successful and most alive, have a wholeness about them that is lacking in too many contemporary environments, Alexander observed. This problem stems, he thought, from a deep misconception of what design really is, and what planning is.  It is not “creating from nothing”—or from our own mental abstractions—but rather, transforming existing wholes into new ones, and using our mental processes and our abstractions to guide this natural life-supporting process.” An interview with philosopher Shannon Vallor: “Re-envisioning Ethics in the Information Age”: “Instead of using the machines to liberate and enlarge our own lives, we are increasingly being asked to twist, to transform, and to constrain ourselves in order to strengthen the reach and power of the machines that we increasingly use to deliver our public services, to make the large-scale decisions that are needed in the financial realm, in health care, or in transportation. We are building a society where the control surfaces are increasingly automated systems and then we are asking humans to restrict their thinking patterns and to reshape their thinking patterns in ways that are amenable to this system. So what I wanted to do was to really reclaim some of the literature that described that process in the 20th century—from folks like Jacques Ellul, for example, or Herbert Marcuse—and then really talk about how this is happening to us today in the era of artificial intelligence and what we can do about it.”From Lance Strate in 2008: “Studying Media AS Media: McLuhan and the Media Ecology Approach.” Japan’s museum of rocks that look like faces.I recently had the pleasure of speaking with Katherine Dee for her podcast, which you can listen to here.I’ll leave you with an arresting line from Simone Weil’s notebooks: “You could not have wished to be born at a better time than this, when everything is lost.” Get full access to The Convivial Society at theconvivialsociety.substack.com/subscribe

Republishing conversation with Professor Ryan Calo from July 2020.

In this episode, Prof. Ryan Calo speaks to Nicolas Wittstock about interdisciplinary work in the UW Tech Policy Lab and UW Center for an Informed Public. What's more, they discuss Ryan's work on the increasing use of automated tools by administrative agencies.

Today we travel to a future where militaries employ killer robots. Should a robot be allowed to take a human life? Is the speed of war increasing too quickly? What does a tech worker do when they find out their work is being used for war? Guests: Kelsey Atherton, a reporter who covers military technology. Ryan Calo, a professor of law at the University of Washington. Dr. Ryan Jenkins, an associate professor of philosophy at California Polytechnic State University. Liz O'Sullivan, the CEO of Parity. Dr. Lucy Suchman, a professor emerita of sociology at Lancaster University. Dr. Jesse Kirkpatrick, an assistant professor of philosophy at George Mason University. Dr. Carlotta Berry, chair of the electrical and computer engineering department at the Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology. Kate Conger, a technology reporter at the New York Times. Voice Actors: Rachael Deckard: Richelle Claiborne Chad: Brett Tubbs Lina: Ashley Kellem Brad: Brent Rose Halimah: Zahra Noorbakhsh Malik: Henry Alexander Kelly Summer: Shara Kirby Ashoka: Anjali Kunapaneni Eliza: Chelsey B Coombs Dorothy Levitt: Tamara Krinsky John Dee: Keith Houston Seargent William Walter: Jarrett Sleeper → → → Further reading & resources here! ← ← ←  Flash Forward is hosted by, Rose Eveleth and produced by Julia Llinas Goodman. The intro music is by Asura and the outro music is by Hussalonia. The episode art is by Mattie Lubchansky. Get in touch:  Twitter // Facebook // Reddit // info@flashforwardpod.com Support the show: Patreon // Donorbox Subscribe: iTunes // Soundcloud // Spotify  Episode Sponsors:  The Long Time Academy: A new podcast about time, and how we think about time. Bird Note Daily: A short, 2-minute daily dose of bird -- from wacky facts, to hard science, and even poetry. Nature: The leading international journal of science. Get 50% off your yearly subscription when you subscribe at go.nature.com/flashforward. BetterHelp: Making professional therapy accessible, affordable, and convenient. Visit betterhelp.com/flashforward and get 10% off your first month. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1:27 | Ryan explores the reasons for and reactions to the "cabinet shuffle" in the provincial government where the Alberta's health minister Tyler Shandro with labour and immigration minister Jason Copping swapped roles. 36:03 | #MyJasper Memories | Ryan shares Real Talkers' photos and experiences from the national park. Presented by Tourism Jasper  41:32 | Guelph University Professor Emeritus Michael Keefer unpacks his essay “Knowing and Not Knowing: Canada, Indigenous Peoples, Israel and Palestine” being included in the forthcoming book "Advocating for Palestine in Canada". 1:09:33 | The award-winning feature writer and columnist for Maclean's magazine, Jason Markusoff discusses the Alberta government cabinet shuffle, its underpinnings and the ultimate fate of the premier, Jason Kenney. 1:35:20 | Princeton University data researcher Amy Winecoff and legal expert on artificial intelligence Ryan Calo analyze the United Nations' call for an AI moratorium and what concerns are overblown and which are justified.

In this episode, Dr Lauren Sanders talks with Professor Ryan Abbott about the legal standards and challenges of integrating artificial intelligence into current legal regimes.  They discuss his recent book, The Reasonable Robot, which traverses different areas of law and how they treat AI – whether incentivising or disincentivising technological development in AI – and what his theory of legal neutrality for artificial intelligence in law is and how it could work.  They also cover his recent case in the Australian Federal Court dealing with recognition of AI as an inventor in patent applications. Professor Abbott  is a Professor of Law and Health Sciences at the University of Surrey and is highly regarded for his scholarship, teaching, and professional activities. He has published widely on issues associated with law and technology, health law, and intellectual property in leading legal, medical, and scientific books and journals. Professor Abbott has worked as a partner in legal practice, and he has been outside general counsel to life science companies. He has served as a consultant or expert for international organizations, academic institutions and non-profit enterprises including the United Kingdom Parliament, European Commission, World Health Organization and the World Intellectual Property Organization. Professor Abbott is a licensed physician, attorney, and acupuncturist in the United States, as well as a solicitor advocate in England and Wales and has also worked as an expert witness which has included testifying in U.S. federal court.Further reading: Ryan Abbott, The Reasonable Robot: Artificial Intelligence and the Law, (2020: Cambridge University Press) Alexandra Jones, 'Artificial intelligence can now be recognised as an inventor after historic Australian court decision', ABC News Online (1 August 2021) Ryan Calo, A. Michael Froomkin, and Ian Kerr (eds), Robot Law, (2016: Edward Elgar)Jacob Turner, Robot Rules - Regulating Artificial Intelligence, (2019: Palgrave) Simon Chesterman, We, the Robots?: Regulating Artificial Intelligence and the Limits of the Law, (2021: Cambridge University Press).

Artificial intelligence is perhaps the most hyped technology in the world. In today's episode, we're going to hear a discussion that invites the listener to think about how money, power and other troubling forces and ideas that shape our society are built into AI systems and the ways we think about deploying them. In May, the University of Washington's Tech Policy Lab and Center for an Informed Public cohosted a virtual book talk featuring Kate Crawford, a leading scholar of the social implications of artificial intelligence and author of the recently published book, Atlas of AI: Power, Politics, and the Planetary Costs of Artificial Intelligence published this spring by Yale University Press, in conversation with Ryan Calo, co-founder of the Center for an Informed Public co-founder, founding co-director of the interdisciplinary UW Tech Policy Lab and a UW School of Law professor.

The insurance company Lemonade is all about automation. To file claims, customers upload a selfie video and Lemonade’s chatbot, AI Jim, will handle some claims automatically. On Twitter this week, Lemonade got in trouble suggesting that AI handles fraud detection and uses nonverbal cues to assess some claims. Researchers said that capability doesn’t exist and could be discriminatory. Lemonade quickly downplayed how much AI it uses and said it’s not based on physical features. “Marketplace Tech” host Molly Wood speaks with Ryan Calo, a professor of law at the University of Washington who studies emerging tech and policy.

The insurance company Lemonade is all about automation. To file claims, customers upload a selfie video and Lemonade’s chatbot, AI Jim, will handle some claims automatically. On Twitter this week, Lemonade got in trouble suggesting that AI handles fraud detection and uses nonverbal cues to assess some claims. Researchers said that capability doesn’t exist and could be discriminatory. Lemonade quickly downplayed how much AI it uses and said it’s not based on physical features. “Marketplace Tech” host Molly Wood speaks with Ryan Calo, a professor of law at the University of Washington who studies emerging tech and policy.

The insurance company Lemonade is all about automation. To file claims, customers upload a selfie video and Lemonade’s chatbot, AI Jim, will handle some claims automatically. On Twitter this week, Lemonade got in trouble suggesting that AI handles fraud detection and uses nonverbal cues to assess some claims. Researchers said that capability doesn’t exist and could be discriminatory. Lemonade quickly downplayed how much AI it uses and said it’s not based on physical features. “Marketplace Tech” host Molly Wood speaks with Ryan Calo, a professor of law at the University of Washington who studies emerging tech and policy.

The insurance company Lemonade is all about automation. To file claims, customers upload a selfie video and Lemonade’s chatbot, AI Jim, will handle some claims automatically. On Twitter this week, Lemonade got in trouble suggesting that AI handles fraud detection and uses nonverbal cues to assess some claims. Researchers said that capability doesn’t exist and could be discriminatory. Lemonade quickly downplayed how much AI it uses and said it’s not based on physical features. “Marketplace Tech” host Molly Wood speaks with Ryan Calo, a professor of law at the University of Washington who studies emerging tech and policy.

The first interview is with Ryan Calo, professor at the University of Washington School of Law, founding co-director of the interdisciplinary UW Tech Policy Lab and the UW Center for an Informed Public. The interview took place shortly after the European Commission announced new proposed regulations on artificial intelligence.  The second conversation is with Kate Starbird and Renée Diresta. Kate Starbird is an Associate Professor in the Department of Human Centered Design & Engineering (HCDE) and Director of the Emerging Capacities of Mass Participation (emCOMP) Laboratory and a co-founder of the University of Washington's Center for an Informed Public, which formed in 2019 around a shared mission of resisting strategic misinformation, promoting an informed society, and strengthening democratic discourse. Renée DiResta is the Research Manager at the Stanford Internet Observatory. She investigates the spread of malign narratives across social networks, and assists policymakers in understanding and responding to the problem. She has advised Congress, the State Department, and other academic, civic, and business organizations, and has studied disinformation and computational propaganda in the context of pseudoscience conspiracies, terrorism, and state-sponsored information warfare. The two were part of a unique collaboration to address disinformation in the 2020 US election cycle. Ahead of the vote, The Stanford Internet Observatory, the University of Washington's Center for an Informed Public, The Atlantic Council's Digital Forensic Research Lab (DFRLab) and the disinformation detection firm Graphika teamed up to create the Election Integrity Partnership. With the aim of defending the 2020 election against voting-related mis- and disinformation, the partnership sought to bridge the gap between government and civil society, and strengthen platform standards for combating election-related misinformation.

The Federal Trade Commission issued a strongly worded post Monday, warning companies against unfair or deceptive practices in their use of artificial intelligence as well as violations of fair-credit rules. It told companies to hold themselves accountable for their algorithms or “be ready for the FTC to do it for you.” Also, the European Union this week drafted detailed legislation that would regulate AI, including banning some surveillance and social-credit scores. Molly speaks with Ryan Calo, a law professor at the University of Washington, who said the FTC post was a surprise.

The Federal Trade Commission issued a strongly worded post Monday, warning companies against unfair or deceptive practices in their use of artificial intelligence as well as violations of fair-credit rules. It told companies to hold themselves accountable for their algorithms or “be ready for the FTC to do it for you.” Also, the European Union this week drafted detailed legislation that would regulate AI, including banning some surveillance and social-credit scores. Molly speaks with Ryan Calo, a law professor at the University of Washington, who said the FTC post was a surprise.

The Federal Trade Commission issued a strongly worded post Monday, warning companies against unfair or deceptive practices in their use of artificial intelligence as well as violations of fair-credit rules. It told companies to hold themselves accountable for their algorithms or “be ready for the FTC to do it for you.” Also, the European Union this week drafted detailed legislation that would regulate AI, including banning some surveillance and social-credit scores. Molly speaks with Ryan Calo, a law professor at the University of Washington, who said the FTC post was a surprise.

The Federal Trade Commission issued a strongly worded post Monday, warning companies against unfair or deceptive practices in their use of artificial intelligence as well as violations of fair-credit rules. It told companies to hold themselves accountable for their algorithms or “be ready for the FTC to do it for you.” Also, the European Union this week drafted detailed legislation that would regulate AI, including banning some surveillance and social-credit scores. Molly speaks with Ryan Calo, a law professor at the University of Washington, who said the FTC post was a surprise.

Episode Topic: A Guide for Handling Mis- and DisinformationFew contemporary problems can be addressed by reference to a single discipline. Misinformation — a critical issue of our time — is no different. Join us for a conversation between Center for an Informed Public co-founder Ryan Calo, AI for the People founder and CEO Mutale Nkonde, Notre Dame Technology Ethics Center Director Mark McKenna, and Notre Dame-IBM Technology Ethics Lab Director Elizabeth Renieris on the importance of interdisciplinary teams to understanding and resisting misinformation.Read this episode's recap over on the University of Notre Dame's open online learning community platform, ThinkND: go.nd.edu/f79c79.This podcast is a part of the TEC Talks ThinkND Series titled "Misinformation and Disinformation".

A Conversation with a Secular Humanist, Jurist and Law Professor, Ryan Calo, and a Christian, Scientist and Bioengineer Professor, Josh Swamidass, about the philosophical and biological implications of artificial intelligence. Presented by the Veritas Forum at University of Washington. • Please like, share, subscribe to, and review this podcast.

We study the intersection of law and technology, but that begs the question - what do we mean when we say law and technology? Over the next two episodes of Tech Refactored we’ve asked six scholars writing in this area to give us their take. The first episode in this two-part series asks ‘What is Law? What is Technology? ZOMG What is Law and Technology?’ and if that sounds like it’s going to get esoteric, it’s because it is. Note, the acronym STS used frequently in this episode refers to "Science and Technology Studies." Guests include BJ Ard, Rebecca Crootof, Ryan Calo, Joshua Fairfield, Meg Leta Jones, and Woodrow Hartzog. Be sure to check out all the guest's posts on The Record.

Our Center studies the intersection of law and technology, but what does that really mean? Over two episodes of Tech Refactored we asked six scholars writing in this area to give us their take. In the first episode in this two-part series we asked, ‘What is Law?’ and ‘What is Technology?’ This, our second episode on the subject, builds on that discussion to ask what we are doing when we are studying law and technology. Does the field stand alone as its own discipline? Does it have its own methodologies?” Guests include BJ Ard, Rebecca Crootof, Ryan Calo, Joshua Fairfield, Meg Leta Jones, and Woodrow Hartzog. Be sure to check out all the guest's posts on The Record.

Hosts Haley Broughton '23 and Allan Holder '21 talk with Professor Calo and David O'Hair about their article entitled “Is Tricking a Robot Hacking?” from our Journal’s recent Volume 34, Issue 3.

What is robot regulation and why does it matter? To answer this question we welcome to the show Ryan Calo. Ryan is a professor at the University of Washington School of Law. He is a faculty co-director of the University of Washington Tech Policy Lab, a unique, interdisciplinary research unit that spans the School of Law, Information School, and Paul G. Allen School of Computer Science and Engineering. Ryan's research broadly ecompasses law and emerging technology. Full show notes for this episode can be found at Radicalai.org.  If you enjoy this episode please make sure to subscribe, submit a rating and review, and connect with us on twitter at twitter.com/radicalaipod  

Thoughtful discussion with Prof. Ryan Calo, a professor of law at the University of Washington about Anti-racism in Robotics", what are the causes of racism? Is inclusion a cosmetic image, how we can move diversity to intellectual inclusiveness? Does the publish and perish model contribute to racism? What are the real solutions for facing racism? Would automated police robots be fairer than humans? ? I hope you enjoy listening to it.

This week, Professor Ryan Calo, robotics and privacy law expert from the University of Washington, joins the pod. We get to hear about his path to the law and academia. We discuss his childhood in Florence, Italy, as well as our mutual love of science fiction writer Robert Jordan and college campuses. Professor Calo shares some insights into corona virus contact tracing apps touted of late, as well as the role technology can play battling the virus. Technology can play a role in how we come out of this and moving our society forward, but we need to be careful and vigilant about how we use it, how we design it, and who holds the power.His perspectives were not only educational, but left me feeling hopeful.

Host Molly Wood speaks with Ryan Calo, a professor of law at the University of Washington, about the legalities involved in police using drones to monitor social distancing requirements during this pandemic. Calo says that though it can be legal, he is worried about surveillance being combined with AI tools that purport to detect whether people are sick. He raises concerns about companies selling “technical snake oil” and increasing anxieties in an already anxious environment.

Host Molly Wood speaks with Ryan Calo, a professor of law at the University of Washington, about the legalities involved in police using drones to monitor social distancing requirements during this pandemic. Calo says that though it can be legal, he is worried about surveillance being combined with AI tools that purport to detect whether people are sick. He raises concerns about companies selling “technical snake oil” and increasing anxieties in an already anxious environment.

Welcome back to the Robotics Through Science Fiction podcast. This week we are joined by the fantastic Professor Ryan Calo to discuss ethics and liability!

With Zahr Said and Jessica Silbey, we discuss new narrative forms, their setting, and their influence on law and legal education. How do the natures of podcasts, twitter, fake news, and deep fakes affect the way we experience culture together and how do they construct that culture and our legal culture? Zahr Said's faculty profile (https://www.law.uw.edu/directory/faculty/said-zahr-k) and writing (https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1030166) Jessica Silbey's faculty profile (https://www.northeastern.edu/law/faculty/directory/silbey.html) and writing (http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=380489) Zahr Said and Jessica Silbey, Narrative Topoi in the Digital Age (https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3293933) Ryan Calo, Digital Market Manipulation (https://digitalcommons.law.uw.edu/faculty-articles/25/) Daniel Solove, Privacy and Power: Computer Databases and Metaphors for Information Privacy (https://scholarship.law.gwu.edu/faculty_publications/924/) Special Guests: Jessica Silbey and Zahr Said.

After a year of privacy scandals, consumers are beginning to realize that the volume of data tech companies collect on them exceeds what they could have imagined. Marketplace Tech host Molly Wood has been helping listeners untangle the complex web of the data economy on her show. She visited Seattle last week to discuss those issues with Giri Sreenivas, CEO of private email server startup Helm, Ryan Calo, co-director of the University of Washington Tech Policy Lab, and Monica Nickelsburg, GeekWire’s civic editor, during an event hosted by KUOW.

We made a return to the annual Tech Law Institute meeting in Atlanta and recorded a live episode about self-driving cars. We talked optimism, pessimism, political valence, regulatory challenges, federalism, trolley problems, and more. This show’s links: Oral Argument 80: We’ll Do It LIVE! NHTSA, Federal Automated Vehicles Policy RAND, Autonomous Vehicle Technology: A Guide for Policymakers Duncan Black, some posts on self-driving cars: Not Gonna Work, No One Will Listen to Me, Spot the Key Phrase, "the revolutionary transportation technology”…. Chris Martin and Joe Ryan, Super-Cheap Driverless Cabs to Kick Mass Transit to the Curb Tesla, All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware (announcement includes a vide demonstration) About Tesla’s Autopilot feature (also Tesla’s page on Autopilot) Alex Davies, Everyone Wants a Level 5 Self-Driving Car – Here’s What That Means Oral Argument 102: Precautionary Federalism (guest Sarah Light) Michael Dorf, Should Self-Driving Cars Be Mandatory? Oral Argument 41: Sense-Think-Act (guest Ryan Calo) Oral Argument 70: No Drones in the Park (guest Frank Pasquale) About trolley problems Megan Barber, Who Should Driverless Cars Save: Pedestrians or Passengers? Frank Pasquale, Get off the Trolley Problem Jules Coleman and William Holahan, Review of Guido Calabresi and Philip Bobbitt’s Tragic Choices

A special live-to-tape dig through the mailbag. This show’s links: Christian’s Modern American Legal Theory audio downloads (paste this into your podcast app: http://www.hydratext.com/malt2016?format=rss) Episodes relevant to driverless cars: No Drones in the Park (guest Frank Pasquale and Sense-Think-Act (guest Ryan Calo) Jonathan Masur’s episode: All over the Gander SustainAtlanta Oral Argument 74: Minimum Curiosity (guest Amanda Frost) More Perfect (a side project of Radiolab) Oral Argument 77: Jackasses Are People Too (guest Adama Kolber) Oral Argument 44: Serial Sarah Koenig, Judge Orderns New Trial for Adnan Syed (containing a link and embedded version of the opinion and order granting Syed a new trial) Oral Argument 69: Contaminated Evidence (guest Brandon Garrett); Oral Argument 48: Legal Truth (guest Lisa Kern Griffin); Oral Argument 45: Sacrifice Kathryn Rubino, Did Georgia Just Poison Bar Exam Test Takers?; Oral Argument 61: Minimum Competence (guest Derek Muller) Oral Argument 21: Kind of a Hellscape (guest Brigham Daniels); Oral Argument 63: A Struggle with Every Single One (guest Jessica Owley)

Interviews: Ryan Calo – Robot Laws Main Fiction: “Jump Cut” by Lauren C. Teffeau Originally published in Unlikely Story’s Journal of Unlikely Cryptography, Issue 11 Lauren C. Teffeau was born and raised on the East Coast, educated in the South, employed in the Midwest, and now lives and dreams in the Southwest. In the Summer of 2012, she attended Taos Toolbox, a master class in writing science fiction and fantasy. Her short fiction can be found in a number of speculative fiction magazines and anthologies. Once upon a time she wanted to be a film critic. She decided to write this story instead. To learn more, please visit http://laurencteffeau.com. Narrated by Mike Boris Mike is a freelance... See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

It’s our second annual call-out show, and it’s a double-sized episode meant to last two weeks. We’re joined by listeners and previous guests who share with us the bits of culture — books, movies, and television — that have affected them and their experience of law and policy. Many things come up, but here’s the rundown: Listener Cameron, 0:00, Les Misérables Listener Michael, 26:11, JFK, the film Listener Bunny, 44:28, Star Trek: The Next Generation, The Measure of a Man Listener and co-host Sonja West, 1:11:26, The Feminine Mystique Listener and co-host Dave Fagundes, 1:41:25, A Wilderness of Error Mom, 2:10:14, Honor Council, The Insider, Serial This show’s links: Oral Argument 44: Serial (A Double-Sized Episode with Many Special Guests) About Les Misérables (and a list of its various incarnations on film and stage) About the “Ban the Box” movement Hicks v. District of Columbia (in which Justice Douglas cites Les Mis in dissent); Harmelin v. Michigan (approving Michigan’s “three strikes” law); and the dissent from the denial of cert in Riggs v. California (in which the defendant’s third strike under California’s law was for stealing a bottle of vitamins); People v. Taylor (a state court appellate case in which the dissent begins: “In a scenario somewhat reminiscent of a late 20th Century, real life Les Miserables, a hungry, homeless man is sent away for 25 years to life for trying to break into a church so he could eat some food he thought the church would be glad for him to have.”) JFK, the 1991 film About the assassination of JFK Philosophy Bites: Quasi Cassam on Conspiracy Theories Hold Up! About the legislative impact of JFK About Making a Murderer Oral Argument 37: Hammer Blow (guest Michael Dorf) The Measure of a Man, an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation; Picard’s argument for Data’s sentience (youtube) About positronic brains Richard Fisher, Is It OK to Torture or Murder a Robot Oral Argument 41: Sense-Think-Act (guest Ryan Calo) About the technological singularity Her Ray Kurzweil, The Age of Spiritual Machines Betty Friedan, The Feminine Mystique Rostker v. Goldberg (upholding the male-only military draft) Jerome Wakefield, The Concept of Mental Disorder The oral argument in Lawrence v. Texas Amy Argetsinger, Robert Spitzer, Psychiatrist of Transformative Influence, Dies at 83 Oral Argument 55: Cronut Lines (guest Dave Fagundes), discussing Waiting in Line: Norms, Markets, and the Law Lauren Davidson, Google’s New “Popular Times” Feature Could Kill the Queue Errol Morris, A Wilderness of Error (and more about Errol Morris) About Jeffrey MacDonald About the controversies over Fatal Vision The Thin Blue Line Serial, season one Janet Malcolm, The Journalist and the Murderer Daniel Medwed, The Innocent Prisoner’s Dilemma: Consequences of Failing to Admit Guilt at Parole Hearings (see also Rob Harris, The “Innocent Prisoner’s Dilemma”, an excellent NY Times video) Oral Argument 48: Legal Truth (guest Lisa Kern Griffin) The Insider Special Guests: Dave Fagundes and Sonja West.

We start with, among other things, some decidedly negative feedback. But then we’re joined by the endlessly fascinating Al Brophy to discuss the history of slavery, Nat Turner’s rebellion and its aftermath, Thomas Cobb and pro- and anti-slavery intellectuals and judges, whether we should revere our Constitution, and what to do with symbols and monuments to the cause of slavery. This show’s links: Al Brophy’s faculty profile and writing Jack Ewing, Volkswagen Says 11 Million Cars Worldwide Are Affected in Diesel Deception Oral Argument 41: Sense-Think-Act (guest Ryan Calo) The 30th Annual Technology Law Institute, at which we will be recording an episode as part of the program Marco Arment, Just Doesn’t Feel Good, about pulling his top-ranked ad-blocking app from the App Store Oral Argument 74: Minimum Curiosity (guest Amanda Frost) Rick Hasen’s ELB Podcast and UCI Law Talks, a show featuring UC Irvine law professors Robert Cover, Justice Accused State v. Mann Harriet Beecher Stowe, Dred: A Tale of the Great Dismal Swamp Alfred Brophy, Thomas Ruffin: Of Moral Philosophy and Monuments Shawn Regan, DeChristopher Case Begs Question [sic]: What If Enviros Were Allowed to Bid on Oil Leases? About Thomas R.R. Cobb Thomas Cobb, An Inquiry into the Law of Negro Slavery in the United States of America Alfred Brophy, The Nat Turner Trials Blackhead Signpost Road (Google Maps); see also Al’s post with his own pictures and those of Henry Louis Gates Jr. Sean Wilentz, Constitutionally, Slavery Is No National Institution; see also David Waldstreicher, How the Constitution Was Indeed Pro-Slavery NFIB v. Sibelius (the Obamacare I case) Alfred Brophy, Is the Confederate Flag Unconstitutional? Tyler Hill, University to Retire “Racist” Portrait Special Guest: Al Brophy.

Drones and robots are or soon will be watching you, driving you, delivering to you, and maybe even trying to kill you. They’re loud, nosy, deadly, useful, safe, and dangerous. There are many different kinds of them and many different kinds of us. What should we do when, say, a man shoots a camera-bearing drone out of the sky above his property? Or when a creditor remotely shuts down your car when you’re behind on your payments but, unfortunately, while you’re on the highway? For some answers and more questions, we chat with delightfully deep-thinking Frank Pasquale. This show’s links: Frank Pasquale’s faculty profile and writing Frank Pasquale, The Black Box Society Oral Argument 41: Sense-Think-Act (guest Ryan Calo) Robot or Not?, a podcast of one to two-minute episodes Jeff John Roberts, Man Arrested for Shooting $1,800 Drone Won’t Apologize, Cites Privacy DJI, drone purveyor, which company’s name Christian managed to mangle, Joe-style Michael Froomkin and Zak Colangelo, Self-Defense Against Robots and Drones Frank Pasquale, Air Traffic Control for Drones Jacque v. Sternberg Homes, Inc. Desnick v. ABC United States v. Causby Hinman v. Pacific Air Transport See, e.g., Field v. Google (on copyright claims against Google for search results) Margot Kaminsky, Drone Federalism: Civilian Drones and the Things They Carry Thomas Frey, 55 Jobs of the Future Timothy Lee, Amazon Has a Plan for Thousands of Drones to Fill the Sky Yoko Kubota, Google Reshoots Japan Views after Privacy Complaints The FAA’s interpretive rules for recreational drones (line-of-sight and less than 400 feet, among other restrictions) and proposed rules for commercial drones (including weight limitations, line-of-sight, daylight-only, less than 500 feet, and more) Foster v. Svenson (finding no statutory privacy right to prevent artistic show of photographs taken unsuspecting through open windows via telephoto lens) AP, Enrique Iglesias Recovering After Fingers Sliced at Concert, video Patrick Hubbard, 'Sophisticated Robots': Balancing Liability, Regulation, and Innovation 99% Invisible 170: Children of the Magenta (Automation Paradox, pt. 1); see also part 2 Turn Your Key, Sir! Grégoire Chamayou, A Theory of the Drone Frank Pasquale, Do Corporations Enjoy a 2nd Amendment Right to Drones? Jathan Sadowski and Frank Pasquale, The Spectrum of Control: A Social Theory of the Smart City Jathan Sadowski and Frank Pasquale, Creditors Use New Devices to Put Squeeze on Debtors Dale Carrico, We Are the Killer Robots; see also Dale Carrico, Natality, Tech “Disruption,” and Killer Robots Mary Ellen O’Connell, 21st Century Arms Control Challenges: Drones, Cyber Weapons, Killer Robots, and WMDs Samuel Bowles and Arjun Jayadev, One Nation Under Guard; see also Samuel Bowles and Arjun Jayadev, Garrison America Frank Pasquale and Glyn Cashwell, Four Futures of Legal Automation Special Guest: Frank Pasquale.

In a special CitizenFour episode, Brian interviews Laura Poitras and Ben Wizner; also, New Yorker writer Mattathias Schwartz on how to catch a terrorist; and Ryan Calo on privacy vs private drones.

Robots. What are they? Just a new sort of tool, qualitatively different kinds of tools that do things we neither expect nor intend, new kinds of beings? With the incipient explosion of complex robots, we may need to re-examine the way law uses and understands intention, responsibility, causation, and other basic concepts. We’re joined by Ryan Calo, who has achieved the outrageously awesome feat of earning a living thinking about robots. (It’s pronounced Kay-low. So Joe got this one right.) We discuss flying drones, chess computers, driverless cars, antilock brakes, and computer-conceived barbecue sauce. This show’s links: Ryan Calo’s faculty profile and writing Follow-up from listener David on Episode 40: The Split Has Occurred, Shelley v. Kraemer, and Buchanan v. Warley Lego Mindstorms Ryan Calo, Robots and Privacy FIRST Lego League robotics competition for ages nine to fourteen DJI Phantom Vision 2+ flying drone camera thing capable of making like this one and this one Mark Berman, National Park Service Bans Drone Use in All National Parks and Chris Vanderveen, Man Banned from Yellowstone after Drone Crash FAA’s Key Initiatives page on drones Joan Lowy, Drone Sightings Up Dramatically Ryan Calo, Robotics and the Lessons of Cyberlaw (including a discussion of the concepts of embodiment, emergence, and social meaning as the core of the legal challenge posed by robotics) Stephen Johnson, Emergence: The Connected Lives of Ants, Brains, Cities, and Software Radiolab, Emergence Frank Easterbrook, Cyberspace and the Law of the Horse Cory Doctorow, Why It Is Not Possible to Regulate Robots Neil Richards and William Smart, How Should the Law Think About Robotics? Ryan Calo, A Horse of a Different Color: What Robotics Law Can Learn from Cyberlaw About IBM’s Watson and Deep Blue (the chess machine) Daniel Suarez, Daemon Richard Fisher, Is It OK to Torture or Murder a Robot? Radiolab, Furbidden Knowledge Nicholas Bakalar, Robotic Surgery Report Card Studdert, Mello, and Brennan, Medical Malpractice Ryan Calo, The Case for a Federal Robotics Commission Excerpt from In re Polemis, the case we forgot the name of About Amazon’s Kiva Systems, the subsidiary that supplies Amazon with robotic warehouse workers Rochelle Bilow, We Put a Computer in Charge of Our Test Kitchen for a Day, and Here’s What Happened, and Mark Wilson, I Tasted BBQ Sauce Made By IBM’s Watson, And Loved It E.M. Forster, The Machine Stops About the Future Tense event, Can We Imagine Our Way to a Better Future?, including descriptions and video, in which Ryan participated About cognitive radio Daria Roithmayr, Complexity Law and Economics We Robot 2015, meeting April 10-11, 2015 in Seattle Special Guest: Ryan Calo.

Last in the current barrage of shows is Show # 213, May 21, my interview with Ryan Calo of University of Washington School of Law and Woodrow Hartzog of Cumberland School of Law on robotics law. Although robotics and drones have come up occasionally on Hearsay Culture, they have never been the primary topic. It was arguably past the time to end that drought. Ryan and Woody are two scholars leading the discussion of the law and policy that should guide the mass entrance of robotics into everyday life (closely related to the emergent concept of the Internet of Things). We discussed everything from their We Robot conference to whether robotics will be the downfall of society (the latter sounds like typical Internet hysteria, but that is indeed the focus of the linked article). As expected, I greatly enjoyed the discussion, and fully expect that this will be the first of many discussions of robots and the law!! {Hearsay Culture is a talk show on KZSU-FM, Stanford, 90.1 FM, hosted by Center for Internet & Society Resident Fellow David S. Levine. The show includes guests and focuses on the intersection of technology and society. How is our world impacted by the great technological changes taking place? Each week, a different sphere is explored. For more information, please go to http://hearsayculture.com.}

On February 14, 2012, President Obama signed the Federal Aviation Administration Modernization and Reform Act into law. This Act requires the FAA to allow others to fly drones, including law enforcement agencies, private companies and even individual hobbyists, over American neighborhoods. Lawyer2Lawyer co-hosts and attorneys, Craig Williams and Bob Ambrogi, talk to the experts, Ryan Calo, Director for Privacy and Robotics, for the Center for Internet and Society at Stanford Law School and Jennifer Lynch, a staff attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation, about drones, transparency, public safety and the potential impact on privacy law.

A talk show on KZSU-FM, Stanford, 90.1 FM, hosted by Center for Internet & Society Resident Fellow David S. Levine. The show includes guests and focuses on the intersection of technology and society. How is our world impacted by the great technological changes taking place? Each week, a different sphere is explored. This week, David interviews Ryan Calo, Director, Consumer Privacy Project at Stanford CIS. For more information, please go to http://hearsayculture.com.

Ryan Calo runs the Consumer Privacy Project at the Center for Internet & Society. Prior to joining the law school in 2008, Calo was an associate at Covington & Burling, LLP, where he advised companies on issues of data security, privacy, and telecommunications. Calo received his JD cum laude from the University of Michigan Law School, where he was a contributing editor to the Michigan Law Review and symposium editor of the Journal of Law Reform, and his BA in Philosophy from Dartmouth College. In 2005-2006, he served as a law clerk to the Honorable R. Guy Cole Jr. of the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit. Prior to law school, Calo was an investigator of allegations of police misconduct in New York City. Calo researches and presents on the intersection of law and technology. His work has appeared in the New York Times, the San Francisco Chronicle, the Associated Press, the Wall Street Journal Blog, Smart Money, Digg, Slashdot, and other national and local media. Calo serves on several advisory and program committees, including Computers Freedom Privacy 2010, the Future of Privacy Forum, and National Robotics Week. Publications "Visceral Notice," Working Paper "The Boundaries of Privacy Harm," 86 Indiana Law Journal __ (forthcoming 2011) "Robots and Privacy," in Robot Ethics: The Ethical and Social Implications of Robotics (Patrick Lin et al eds.), Cambridge: MIT Press (forthcoming 2011) "People Can Be So Fake: A New Dimension to Privacy and Technology Scholarship," 114 Penn State Law Review 809 (2010) "Scylla or Charybdis: Navigating the Jurisprudence of Visual Clutter," 103 Michigan Law Review 1877 (2005) http://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/profile/ryan-calo

Ryan Calo, Senior Research Fellow at Stanford Law-School, discusses liability & privacy issues when considering robots and the law.