Podcast appearances and mentions of Mark Penn

John McLaughlin and Mark Penn talk about Trump's poll numbers vs the Democrats Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Listen to this week's No Spin News interviews with Victoria Coates, Randy Greenberg and Mark Penn. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mainstream media would have you believe that Trump's first 100 days were a failure—despite securing the border and strong economic gains. Victor Davis Hanson breaks down the polling regarding Donald Trump's early 2025 presidency on today's edition of “Victor Davis Hanson: In His Own Words,” and asks the question: Were pollsters reflecting public opinion, or manipulating it? “There were analyses after each of the 2016, the 2020, and the 2024 elections about the accuracy of polls, post facto, of the election. And we learned that they were way off in 2016. They said they had learned their lessons.  “They were way off in 2020. They said they learned their lesson. And they were way off in 2024. And why are they way off? Because liberal pollsters—and that's the majority of people who do these surveys—believe that if they create artificial leads for their Democratic candidates, it creates greater fundraising and momentum.   “ If you look at the polls that were the most accurate—Mark Penn was very accurate. He's a Democratic pollster. But especially, the Rasmussen poll and the Insider Advantage and the Trafalgar poll. … They have Trump ahead by anywhere from two to three points after 100 days.”

Tonight's rundown: Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Monday, May 5, 2025. Stand Up for Your Country.  Talking Points Memo: Bill explains Donald Trump's 2026 budget proposal, highlighting the planned spending increases and cuts. What Bill said on NewsNation about Trump's plan to revoke Harvard's tax-exempt status. Mark Penn, Chairman and CEO of Stagwell, joins the No Spin News to discuss the latest Harvard/HarrisX Poll and whether certain outfits are trying to deliver bad poll numbers for Trump. Why did Mexico's President reject Trump's offer to target cartels with US troops? Smart Life: The Global Post is offering 50% off for new BillOReilly.com subscribers. Final Thought: Check out Bill's 100 Days of Trump NewsNation Special.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Send us a textCatching up this week with return guest Dr. Michael Cohen, who just released a new edition of his book Modern Political Campaigns this month. He studied under iconic pollster Bill Hamilton as a student, worked in the trenches in Republican campaigns, spent time at Gallup, apprenticed under renowned GOP pollster Tony Fabrizio and worked with famed Dem strategist Mark Penn when Michael was an in-house pollster at Microsoft. Along the way, Michael started his own firm (Cohen Research Group), built the successful Congress in Your Pocket tech app, and wrote Modern Political Campaigns to bring the campaign literature up to speed with the ever-evolving political industry - including a new edition that includes a focus on the role AI is playing in political campaigns. This is a great nuts-and-bolts conversation on the political industry with a smart pollster, tech entrepreneur, and author.IN THIS EPISODE…The new edition of Modern Political Campaigns, including a focus on AI in campaigns...How political campaigns are (and are not) using AI at this point...What Michael knows about Gen Z from teaching courses at NYU and Johns Hopkins...Lessons he learned from a recent heart attack and recovery...Michael's formative years growing up on Long Island…The political switch flips for Michael in college…Michael crosses paths with famed Democratic pollster Bill Hamilton…Michael makes the jump to political polling under Tony Fabrizio…The bizarre story of how one of Michael's candidates was pilloried on the Colbert Report…Michael starts his own polling firm to move beyond partisan politics…Michael's stint as an in-house pollster at Microsoft with Mark Penn…Michael's compares working with legendary Dem pollster Mark Penn and iconic GOP pollster Tony Fabrizio…Michael creates the wildly successful Congress in Your Pocket app…Michael's 101 on how to create an app…The long journey behind Michael's new book Modern Political Campaigns…Michael's advice to those who want to write a book and get it published…Michael's take on what makes a good pollster…Michael weighs in on the question of a “polling crisis”…Michael's advice on the best books to understand how politics works…AND AAPOR, Michael Bender, Sidney Blumenthal, Stephen Colbert, Sean Cook, Bob Dole, enlargement ads, Ezra Cohen Corporation, Arthur Finkelstein, the Gallup Poll, Josh Gottheimer, Sasha Issenberg, Peter Jennings, Steve Jobs, Ed Koch, Celinda Lake, Massapequa mannerisms, mobilization vs. persuasion, Never Trump Republicans, Ronald Reagan, Rowman & Littlefield, Jake Rush, Karen Thurman, Chris Tompkins, Tevi Troy, vampire roleplaying, Ted Yoho, & more!

0:00 - BLM Brandon digs in on sanctuary city: won't negotiate with terrorists 12:30 - CA high school Celeste Diest (Lucia Mar Unified SD, San Luis Obispo) on boy in girl's locker room 30:16 - Mark Penn on Dem Party, prospect of AOC as nominee 51:09 - Thomas Weitzel, retired Chief of Police of Riverside, points to the Safety Act as lawlessness continues to be the norm in Illinois. Follow Chief Weitzel on X @ChiefWeitzel 01:10:26 - Steven Bucci, visiting fellow in The Heritage Foundation’s Allison Center for Foreign Policy Studies, on allegations of leaks out of the DOD "don't speculate... investigate" 01:23:40 - Sports & Politics 01:28:38 - Pro-Life Attorney and Fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, Mary FioRito, on Pope Francis and his "complicated legacy" Follow Mary on X @maryfiorito 01:42:16 - Dad tells teacher he doesn't want his kids instructed on the use of butt plugs 01:46:32 -Sen. Chris Van Hollen explains "Margarita-gate" with Abrego Garcia02:08:09 - Senior Counsel at the Article III Project, Will Chamberlain, on the Abrego Garcia case "he will never be reunited with his family in Maryland again... he never had a legal right to reside in the US to begin with" For more on the Article III Project article3project.orgSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Stagwell CEO and longtime pollster/strategist talks about his latest Harvard CAPS/Harris poll findings plus a discussion about the future of news.

On today's show, Robby explains why he doesn't believe Mike Waltz's explanation for "Signalgate." President Trump is irate with some foreign adversaries Will President Trump really run for a Third Term? The Grayzone's Aaron Mate weighs in on President Trump's order to declassify the Crossfire Hurricane investigation that led to "Russiagate." HarrisX's co-director Mark Penn gives update on Trump's approval rating. Sen. Bernie Sanders agrees with Joe Rogan when it comes to health care. All this, and more. #rising Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tom Bevan, Carl Cannon and Heather Wilhelm (Columnist for National Review) discuss Laura Ingraham's interview last night with Sam Corcos, a DOGE team leader working at the IRS. They also question - why the World Happiness Report is a sham, why Snow White is a train wreck, and why Gavin Newsom lied about LatinX? Then, Tom Bevan interviews Mark Penn, CEO of Stagwell, about the state of the Democratic party. And finally, Unknowns host Charlie Stone interviews author and lawyer - Scott Turow.

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MARK PENN: TRUMP'S APPROVAL NUMBERS ARE SURGING WHILE THE DEMS ARE TANKING Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As new polling data from Mark Penn reveals a historic decline in the Democratic Party's popularity, deeper investigations expose layers of deception, corruption, and government misconduct. From the Biden administration's handling of immigration to allegations of FBI and DOJ politicization, the public is waking up to a troubling reality—one that could reshape the political landscape.

0:00 - Remembering Joy Reid 12:19 - Trump on Trans 30:37 - Mark Penn on polling he's releasing today: Dems have fallen off a cliff 51:14 - James Fishback and Smerconish argue DOGE dividend 01:04:27 - Steven Bucci, visiting fellow in The Heritage Foundation’s Allison Center for Foreign Policy Studies" we need to let the Trump administration work these unconventional methodologies and see where it goes" 01:21:48 - Latino businesses in Chicago…succession plan in case of deportations 01:36:54 - James Parker Hall Distinguished Service Professor Emeritus of Law, Senior Lecturer at the University of Chicago, Richard A Epstein: Deregulating the University on Sex and Age 01:55:41 - Chris Ferguson, professor of psychology at Stetson University in Florida: A New Study Found that Cellphone Bans in Schools Don’t Work, but Was the Study Any Good? Chris is also the author of Catastrophe! The Psychology of Why Good People Make Bad Situations Worse and his substack grimoiremanor.substack.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

With strong enforcement on immigration, executive orders ending DEI initiatives in the federal government, and confirmations of many members of his cabinet, Donald Trump spent most of his first two weeks in office showing the world he's everything Joe Biden wasn't. But what about the politics of what the administration is doing? On this episode of Free Expression, veteran pollster Mark Penn and Gerry Baker discuss the fallout after the pardons issued to the Jan. 6 defendants, what could happen if Donald Trump drifts too far to the right, the role tech CEOs will have over the next four years, and how the world at large will work alongside Donald Trump on foreign policy and tariffs.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In a historic return to the presidency, Donald J. Trump has taken the oath of office as the 47th President of the United States. The inauguration, held in the Capitol Rotunda, was marked by a speech that combined optimism and a steely determination reminiscent of past leaders like Ronald Reagan and Winston Churchill. Trump's address outlined a vision for a new golden age in America, promising to restore the nation's promise and rebuild its greatness.The speech was not just rhetoric; it was a call to action. Within minutes of taking office, President Trump signed over 30 executive orders addressing key issues such as border security, gender policies in sports, and educational reforms. His swift actions signal a presidency ready to tackle the challenges facing America head-on.Political figures from both sides of the aisle have weighed in on the significance of this day. Congressman Barry Loudermilk, present at the inauguration, described Trump's speech as one of his best, drawing comparisons to the great speeches of past presidents. Meanwhile, political strategist Mark Penn noted the remarkable comeback of Trump, highlighting the shift in public sentiment that has brought him back to the White House.Historian Solomon Schmidt provides a unique perspective, drawing parallels between Trump's policies and those of past presidents like William McKinley. Schmidt emphasized the historical significance of the day's events, noting the enduring legacy of American exceptionalism.As Trump embarks on his second term, the nation stands at a crossroads. The challenges are significant, but so are the opportunities. With a clear agenda and a commitment to action, President Trump aims to lead America into a new era of prosperity and strength.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

00:00: Outline 00:53: P1, P2, P3 03:14: Feasibility study 04:35: DJ Seo comments 06:20: Academic work 07:18: Bad reporting- Rachel Levy 10:15: Canada trial- international expansion 12:02: Elon talk at CNS 13:46: Please follow and subscribe! Jan 8, 2025: CES by Mark Penn, CEO of Stagwell: https://x.com/ElonClipsX/status/1877222791713337623 Jan 7, 2025: Elon Announces More International Expansion: https://x.com/NeuraPod/status/1876708688242589775 Nov 25, 2024: Neuralink's CONVOY Study Announcement: https://x.com/neuralink/status/1861107594645119006 Nov 22, 2024: Romina's Offer: https://x.com/RominaNejad/status/1859996818601652667 Nov 20, 2024: Neuralink's Canadian Trial Announcement: https://x.com/neuralink/status/1859321866944401727 Nov 20, 2024: University Health Network Announcement: https://x.com/UHN/status/1859324169072353488 Sep 29, 2024: Elon Talks at Congress of Neurosurgeons Meeting: https://youtu.be/huxf36QKbI0?si=oQeksONwxG24Iv9G&t=1710 April 2022: Neura Pod Episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qUhEXwrL74&t=1003s&ab_channel=NeuraPod%E2%80%93Neuralink Apply for Neuralink's Patient Registry: https://neuralink.com/patient-registry/

For my 2025 kickoff of Insider Interviews marketing luminaries Lou Paskalis and David Sable joined me for one of the most candid conversations on the media and ad world for an incredibly candid conversation on the media and ad world that cuts through what David famously coined as "digibabble" years ago. We moved from their personal passions (don't get David started on The Doors!) to how advertising evolved in the tech era... to its future, jam packed with opinions based on their decades of award-winning experience. (Lou, who previously ran global marketing at a couple of small brands you may have heard of, like Bank of America, American Express, and where I first met him, E.J. Gallo, is now the strategic mind behind news assessor Ad Fontes Media, The street cred of David - a top voice on LinkedIn, thanks in part to his terrific blog, "Imagine," stems from being former global CEO/Chairman of Y&R (now VMLY&R) and board member for a ton of big companies like American Eagle and Ethan Allen. He is now Vice-Chairman at the forward-thinking mid-size holdco, Stagwell, where Lou is also an advisor, I discovered!) What informs a lot of the conversation is David's explanation of how Stagwell flipped the traditional agency model on its head: Instead of buying up creative agencies, founder Mark Penn premise to build around tech."... We began by buying tech, aggregating tech and creating a tech platform. Then we went out and wrote in the creative pieces of business." But as David emphasized, "Tech leads the way for everything. But our model, which is the model that's working the best, is that tech is an enabler: Our job is to tell stories and to tell them well." Stories - and art itself, even using the most sophisticated tech and AI - is only a result of the information fed to it. David shares a beautiful analogy about what a Monet envisioned using different brushstrokes on, say, Water Lillies. We have to inform our models to consider "impressionism," just as we have to provide data for use. He says, "Data is a picture of what happened before. That's it. Now, I can interpret it, I can use it, I can I can create algorithms or models, but at the end of the day, data is a picture of what was. It can predict, and AI is going to be better at that, but that's all it is. So it's only as good as the data that it has." And don't get him started on OMNICHANNEL as a buzzword, either. The through line of this episode is to appeal to and follow the consumer. Not jam tech terms or "digibabble" down their throats. Unsurprisingly, Lou agrees, comparing ineffective presentations to Charlie Brown hearing his teacher: "Wah wah. Wah wah. Digital." His point when pitching the CFO could also apply to the consumer: "If you don't contextualize everything into the growth agenda, you might as well not go to the meetings. They don't care what we do, they care how what we do achieves growth." Be human, even in an AI world. That applies to retail, to advertising and, as we learn, the news media. The Future of News Perhaps most compelling was our discussion about the critical importance of news. Insider Interviews followers know this is a clarion call for Lou, which he focused on in his first appearance here last year. Now, backed by Stagwell's staggering study of 50,000 people, Lou shared a startling insight: "The ROI, or return on advertising -- ROAS, on news is higher than any other content vertical you can buy." Marketers are missing out on if they are "news-averse," based on some misguided perceptions about "brand suitability." "11% are self-identified as news junkies who only read or watch the news when they're consuming media. That's 11% more business for any marketer in America in 2025 who will achieve the growth agenda and win by reaching these very influential people." (To learn more, all Insider Interviews fans who are publishers are invited to apply to attend Stagwell's Future of News next meeting at 1WTC on January 2...

L'intelligence artificielle aurait atteint un tournant. Selon Ilya Sutskveer, ancien chercheur d'OpenAI et désormais à la tête de sa propre start-up, l'industrie de l'IA est confrontée à un « pic des données ». En clair, les connaissances humaines disponibles pour entraîner ces modèles auraient été entièrement exploitées par les géants du secteur. Un constat partagé par le fondateur de xAI, valorisée à 50 milliards de dollars, qui s'est exprimé le 8 janvier lors d'un entretien sur X.com avec Mark Penn, président de Stagwell. « Nous avons épuisé la somme cumulative des connaissances humaines en 2023 », a-t-il déclaré, soulignant l'urgence pour les entreprises de trouver des alternatives.La solution semble se trouver dans les données synthétiques, générées par les IA elles-mêmes. Ces données, déjà utilisées pour former des modèles comme Claude 3.5 d'Anthropic ou Llama de Meta, permettent de poursuivre l'entraînement à moindre coût. Selon le cabinet Gartner, 60 % des données utilisées pour l'IA en 2024 seront synthétiques. Leur avantage ? Le coût. La start-up Writer affirme que son modèle Palmyra X 004, exclusivement basé sur des données synthétiques, a coûté 700 000 dollars, contre 4,6 millions pour un modèle comparable chez OpenAI.Cependant, le recours à ces données comporte des risques. Les IA entraînées sur des données synthétiques pourraient subir un phénomène d'effondrement, où la qualité des modèles se détériore à mesure que les données générées polluent les ensembles d'entraînement. De plus, ces données manquent parfois de nuances, renforçant les biais algorithmiques existants. Alors que la course à l'innovation s'intensifie, les acteurs du secteur semblent prêts à prendre ces risques pour rester compétitifs, même si l'impact à long terme reste incertain. Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

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[00:00:00] Mark Penn [00:18:26] Josh Kraushaar [00:36:50] Marc Thiessen [00:55:11] Rupa Subramanya [01:13:34] Will Cain [01:41:51] Jimmy Failla Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Stagwell CEO Mark Penn is a veteran of politics. In this discussion, he examines how shifting audience behaviors and trust patterns are reshaping where Americans get their news. The conversation delves into the thorny challenges of advertising on news content and why brand safety concerns are usually overblown. Penn outlines how news organizations can build sustainable businesses by adopting lessons from political campaigns, while warning that chasing ideological audiences risks further eroding media's broader cultural influence.

The 2024 presidential race is over, but experts have just begun analyzing how and why former President Trump was able to gain so much ground in key voter demographics. The now President Elect was able to turn out young men and black men at historic rates, bringing him victories in the "Blue Wall" states as well as North Carolina and Georgia. With the White House secured, the Senate, and potentially the House of Representatives, what does the future hold for the next Trump presidency? Former Special Assistant to President Elect Trump Marc Lotter joins the Rundown to discuss what campaign strategies led to the Election Day win, what he expects over the next four years, and analyzes the shift in Republican voters. This election cycle has been anything but normal, and many pundits expected it to take all week to see results. Yet, as the evening went on, it became clear that former President Donald Trump would return to the White House in January. Former advisor to President Bill Clinton and Chairman of the Harris Poll, Mark Penn, joins the Rundown to react to Trump's "return from oblivion." Plus, commentary from FOX News contributor and host of the Jason In The House podcast, Jason Chaffetz. Photo Credit: AP Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The 2024 presidential race is over, but experts have just begun analyzing how and why former President Trump was able to gain so much ground in key voter demographics. The now President Elect was able to turn out young men and black men at historic rates, bringing him victories in the "Blue Wall" states as well as North Carolina and Georgia. With the White House secured, the Senate, and potentially the House of Representatives, what does the future hold for the next Trump presidency? Former Special Assistant to President Elect Trump Marc Lotter joins the Rundown to discuss what campaign strategies led to the Election Day win, what he expects over the next four years, and analyzes the shift in Republican voters. This election cycle has been anything but normal, and many pundits expected it to take all week to see results. Yet, as the evening went on, it became clear that former President Donald Trump would return to the White House in January. Former advisor to President Bill Clinton and Chairman of the Harris Poll, Mark Penn, joins the Rundown to react to Trump's "return from oblivion." Plus, commentary from FOX News contributor and host of the Jason In The House podcast, Jason Chaffetz. Photo Credit: AP Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The 2024 presidential race is over, but experts have just begun analyzing how and why former President Trump was able to gain so much ground in key voter demographics. The now President Elect was able to turn out young men and black men at historic rates, bringing him victories in the "Blue Wall" states as well as North Carolina and Georgia. With the White House secured, the Senate, and potentially the House of Representatives, what does the future hold for the next Trump presidency? Former Special Assistant to President Elect Trump Marc Lotter joins the Rundown to discuss what campaign strategies led to the Election Day win, what he expects over the next four years, and analyzes the shift in Republican voters. This election cycle has been anything but normal, and many pundits expected it to take all week to see results. Yet, as the evening went on, it became clear that former President Donald Trump would return to the White House in January. Former advisor to President Bill Clinton and Chairman of the Harris Poll, Mark Penn, joins the Rundown to react to Trump's "return from oblivion." Plus, commentary from FOX News contributor and host of the Jason In The House podcast, Jason Chaffetz. Photo Credit: AP Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mark Penn: Race too close to call Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kamala Harris gets lukewarm reviews for her town hall on CNN, as she and her campaign go all-in on calling Donald Trump a fascist and stoking fears about authoritarian rule if he wins. On this episode of Potomac Watch, Paul Gigot speaks with Democratic pollster Mark Penn, who says Democrats have decided that demonizing Trump is the best way to win and describes what to look for between now and Election Day. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

[00:00:00] Bret Baier [00:18:25] Lt. Col. Allen West [00:36:47] Link Lauren [01:05:57] Simulcast with Stuart Varney on FBN [01:13:30] Mark Penn [01:31:52] Josh Kraushaar Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With less than a month until Election Day, both candidates continue to spend ample time in Pennsylvania, one of the most sought-after swing states this cycle. New polls show Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Trump in a 'dead heat' and both candidates will sit down with FOX News later this week. CEO of Stagwell Inc, former Advisor to President Bill Clinton, and Chairman of the Harris Poll, Mark Penn, joins to break down the state of the Harris campaign and why recent news has Democrats are alarmed. It's not just the top of the ticket that's at stake in the 2024 election—the balance of power in the House of Representatives is likely to be decided by less than 50 congressional races. Rep. Elissa Slotkin has left Michigan's 7th District seat open to run for Senate, creating one of the most competitive congressional races in the country. Former State Representative Tom Barret is the Republican candidate in Michigan's 7th Congressional District, and he joins to discuss his strategy to win his fiercely competitive swing district, how he's messaging on the issue of abortion, and the new voting dynamics in play in Michigan. Plus, commentary by founder and Senior Pastor of New Beginnings Church of Chicago and the CEO of Project H.O.O.D., Corey Brooks. Photo Credit: AP Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With less than a month until Election Day, both candidates continue to spend ample time in Pennsylvania, one of the most sought-after swing states this cycle. New polls show Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Trump in a 'dead heat' and both candidates will sit down with FOX News later this week. CEO of Stagwell Inc, former Advisor to President Bill Clinton, and Chairman of the Harris Poll, Mark Penn, joins to break down the state of the Harris campaign and why recent news has Democrats are alarmed. It's not just the top of the ticket that's at stake in the 2024 election—the balance of power in the House of Representatives is likely to be decided by less than 50 congressional races. Rep. Elissa Slotkin has left Michigan's 7th District seat open to run for Senate, creating one of the most competitive congressional races in the country. Former State Representative Tom Barret is the Republican candidate in Michigan's 7th Congressional District, and he joins to discuss his strategy to win his fiercely competitive swing district, how he's messaging on the issue of abortion, and the new voting dynamics in play in Michigan. Plus, commentary by founder and Senior Pastor of New Beginnings Church of Chicago and the CEO of Project H.O.O.D., Corey Brooks. Photo Credit: AP Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With less than a month until Election Day, both candidates continue to spend ample time in Pennsylvania, one of the most sought-after swing states this cycle. New polls show Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Trump in a 'dead heat' and both candidates will sit down with FOX News later this week. CEO of Stagwell Inc, former Advisor to President Bill Clinton, and Chairman of the Harris Poll, Mark Penn, joins to break down the state of the Harris campaign and why recent news has Democrats are alarmed. It's not just the top of the ticket that's at stake in the 2024 election—the balance of power in the House of Representatives is likely to be decided by less than 50 congressional races. Rep. Elissa Slotkin has left Michigan's 7th District seat open to run for Senate, creating one of the most competitive congressional races in the country. Former State Representative Tom Barret is the Republican candidate in Michigan's 7th Congressional District, and he joins to discuss his strategy to win his fiercely competitive swing district, how he's messaging on the issue of abortion, and the new voting dynamics in play in Michigan. Plus, commentary by founder and Senior Pastor of New Beginnings Church of Chicago and the CEO of Project H.O.O.D., Corey Brooks. Photo Credit: AP Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SERIES 3 EPISODE 30: COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN A-Block (1:44) SPECIAL COMMENT: The debate bounce is here. And maybe it's more than that. Kamala Harris may – repeat MAY – caveat MAY – warning even if so keep your foot on the gas…MAY be beginning pulling away from Trump in the polls. She's up by six in Morning Consult, got a six-point swing in Mark Penn's Harris poll.  According to the 538 Average of Polls, yesterday, for the first time since July 2021, her net favorability moved into positive territory: 46-point-6 percent approval to 46-point-5 percent disapproval. It's about as NOT-a-landslide as you can get but it is an almost unprecedented turnaround. Vice President Harris, whose net approval is plus zero-point-one was on July 14th, -17. There's also the 538 poll average where she's up by three and its electoral college model in which Harris wins 61 times out of 100… and the Economist Polling Average… which shows her up by four… and Nate Silver's OK-Maybe-I-Did-Pull-This-Number-Out-Of-My-Ass model which he acknowledges went from last week giving Trump a two-thirds chance of winning to him saying to Axios that Harris is quote “moving up in the polls enough that the model is converging back toward 50/50 in the Electoral College.” JD VANCE IS A BLESSING - TO HARRIS: Insists Haitians are from "Haitia." Claims Robert F. Kennedy Junior was assassinated. Is doubling down on Springfield. May be dumber than Trump. And here's good news: the authorities are still investigating Trump's scandal at Arlington National Cemetery. B-Block (21:35) THE WORST PERSONS IN THE WORLD: Megyn Kelly takes time from her bid to beat Kari Lake in the effort to corner the market in camera filters, to F-bomb Taylor Swift. Turns out at least one of the anti-Ukraine memes Elon Musk tweeted was made by the Kremlin's favorite disinformation creator. And Bill Ackman is so mad about the debate he's referring it to...a top college sports league? C-Block (33:00) THINGS I PROMISED NOT TO TELL: I just re-told this story Monday in real life so I thought I'd bring it up again. 15 years ago this summer Bill O'Reilly sent Jesse Watters to stalk the chairman of GE because I was criticizing Billo and Fox. The chairman's mother called him up and yelled at him, and he of course responded as any true businessman would: he threaten to turn off MSNBC and its $200,000,000 annual profit like a light bulb so Mommy wouldn't be upset.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode of Cloud and Clear Podcast, Tony Safoian, CEO of SADA, interviews Mark Penn, the CEO of Stagwell, about his extraordinary career journey—from starting a business at age 12 to leading one of the top marketing firms today. Mark offers his perspective on how technology and data have reshaped marketing, reflects on his experience as Chief Strategy Officer at Microsoft, and explains the founding vision behind Stagwell. Learn about the evolving role of AI, cloud technology's impact on innovation, and how Stagwell is leveraging Google Cloud to drive global growth. Don't miss this deep dive into cloud security, AI advancements, and the strategic partnerships fueling innovation. Be sure to like, share, and subscribe for more insightful content!

Mark Penn challenges ABC, the 2024 race plus more stories.....  

Andrew Walworth, Carl Cannon, and RCP White House correspondent Phil Wegmann discuss the suggestion by Democratic strategist Mark Penn that ABC News conduct an external review of the network's conduct of this week's presidential debate. They also look forward to the vice presidential debate scheduled for October 1st and they talk about the potential impact of a government shutdown on competitive House races and the risk of escalation in Ukraine War if the US and Britain loosen restrictions to allow deeper strikes within Russian territory. Next, Carl Cannon talks with Adelle M. Banks, Religion News Service reporter, about media coverage of religious issues and the relationship between evangelicals and Donald Trump. Then finally, RCP contributor Charlie Stone talks with former CNN journalist Andrea Koppel about her career choices and life lessons learned in the shadow of a famous father.

Today's Friday episode opens as we usually do, with Tara Bull's Top 10 News items of the week that the Legacy/mainstream media either did not cover or did not cover them well. Unlike most weeks, though, today's Top 10 had a lot of items that just dropped yesterday, so many of them were in my show prep for me to talk about today. We then move to the citizens in Springfield, OH petitioning for the complete removal of the mayor and the city council over the Haitian migrant problem in their community. Senator Richard “Griphook” Blumenthal (D-CT) stepped out of character and intimated that what they are learning about the USSS will Americans “shocked astonished and appalled.” Mark Penn, a former Senior Adviser to the Clinton's, has called for an internal investigation into ABC, accusing them of rigging the debate against Trump. He says he has read the affidavit from a whistleblower and plans to release it sometime over the weekend. Larry Kudlow from Fox Business was startled to see how the independents who were watching the debate were tracking with the Republicans and not the democrats. They then discussed how this is mirroring what happened in 2016 and what did not happen in 2020. That might explain why sources around Harris are leaking that she is furious with her staff because she didn't get a boost from the Convention, didn't get a boost from the interview and, so far, has not gotten any boost from the debate. So, at a stop yesterday in North Carolina, she mocked Trump saying he only had the concept of a plan. She was intentionally distorting his answer about Obamacare, but, in so doing, painted herself into a Catch-22 considering she is all-in on the hoax that his “plan” is to implement Project 2025. Then, in another Catch-22, she said she is the candidate of a “new way forward' and then bragged that all of the old GOP staffers from the previous 25 years are endorsing her. The DOJ National Crime Victimization Survey just dropped and proved Donald Trump correct once again. Violent crime is up over 37% from when Trump left office to where we are today. Add that to the list of the Biden-Harris accomplishments. On the flip side, at a rally in Arizona, Trump release two more initiatives. He wants to use an Executive Order directing the immediate termination of every single unnecessary rule that is impeding housing construction and driving up costs of housing. He also wants to remove all taxes on overtime pay. As we start to close Eric Weinstein weighs-in on the idea that he doesn't believe Donald Trump will be “allowed” to become president. He was on with Piers Morgan and expanded on why he believes that. Finally, Harris's emotional support animal, Gov. Tim Walz (D-MN) accidentally referred to her as a “prostitutor.” It was a slip of the tongue, but a humorous one nonetheless. Take a moment to rate and review the show and then share the episode on social media. You can find me on Facebook, X, Instagram, GETTR and TRUTH Social by searching for The Alan Sanders Show. You can also support the show by visiting my Patreon page!  

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New polling confirms that the race between former President Donald Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris remains incredibly tight, meaning the stakes couldn't be higher at next week's ABC News Presidential Debate. With many undecided voters still weighing their options and Vice President Harris making her presidential debate stage debut, what will it take for either candidate to come out victorious? And could a standout debate performance on September 10th be enough to secure an election win?  Democratic pollster and CEO of Stagwell Inc., Mark Penn, weighs in on which issues the candidates need to spotlight on the debate stage and how meaningful fresh momentum can be this close to the election. Follow Martha on X: @MarthaMacCallum Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mark Penn, the chairman and CEO of Stagwell Inc., reflects on his extraordinary career, driven by his passion for politics and marketing, and offers insights on why this is a good year for marketers.  Episode TranscriptPlease note, this transcript  may contain minor inconsistencies compared to the episode audio.[00:00:00] Damian: I'm Damian Fowler. [00:00:01] Ilyse: And I'm Ilyse Liffreing. [00:00:02] Damian: And welcome to this edition of The Current Podcast. [00:00:05] Ilyse: This week we're delighted to talk with Mark Penn, the Chairman and CEO of Stagwell. [00:00:10] Damian: Well, first, as a political pollster, who's advised names like Bill and Hillary Clinton and Tony Blair. [00:00:20] Later, he became Chief Strategist for Microsoft, before founding Stagwell, a digital first marketing and communications group. [00:00:28] Ilyse: Mark's political background no doubt brings a much needed perspective to marketing. He argues that in today's real time, data driven world, brands must have a constant finger on the pulse of the American consumer. [00:00:42] Damian: We start by asking him how these two worlds, politics and marketing, have always been bound together [00:00:48] mark, it's no secret that you've covered the waterfront from being a political strategist to a poster to businessman and author. You know, can you walk us through a little bit about how you went from polling to politics to media? [00:01:00] That's a big question, right? [00:01:01] Yes, I'm still trying to answer that question  [00:01:03] Mark: myself. How did I get here? Uh, you know, I kind of re strategize myself like every decade or so. And I said, well, okay, what is it that I really want to do? And, and so I, I kind of started actually out as I was going to be a lawyer. Uh, and then I detoured from law, law to polling. [00:01:22] And then I was going to be a pollster working for the president. And I got to do that. So then I kind of detoured from there. And then at a certain point, and I love technology. So I was then kind of went to Microsoft and became chief strategy officer. And then I, I had this idea to say, why can't I take all my experiences in polling and campaigns and running bursts in Marsteller. [00:01:45] And I ran Microsoft's advertising too. And I said, you know what? I could form a better holding company because it could be more digital first. It could be more freed from the legacy assets. It could be more innovative. And so I did exactly that. [00:02:00]  [00:02:00] Damian: Yeah, doing a little research on your background, it seems like your curiosity seems to have served you very well throughout life. [00:02:06] Is that part of the DNA of, of what drives you or what, what keeps, what motivates you to keep going?  [00:02:12] Mark: Well, you have to do what you're interested in. You know, I always think, it's so funny. You know, my partner and I were going to be corporate lawyers. And, and then we decided, you know what? We like this polling thing. [00:02:22] We have impact on campaigns and society. And we thought, oh, we're giving up this cushy life as corporate lawyers. And we, we did a lot better doing polling than we ever would have done as corporate lawyers. So, what I always tell people is, follow your passion. Don't worry so much. If you do something, do it. [00:02:38] Really interesting. Really? Well, you'll, you'll figure out how to, you know, how to manage the, the reward side of things, and that's much better than doing something you don't really like that you somehow think is going to be rewarding.  [00:02:51] Damian: Now, Stagwell, as you mentioned, offices, big marketing network, let's tech driven, you know, as a leader in digital, you know, uh, how have you seen the [00:03:00] two areas move together, you know, the idea of digital marketing performance and creative, how do those two things. [00:03:07] Mark: Well, I think they have to work together. I think that to the extent that you're creating a digital experience, that is a creative activity. That, that everyone remember, those of us who were not born digital, think of how we create a TV spot first. Those who were born digital don't think in that way. They think in how they're going to create a digital experience first. [00:03:35] Right? And, and that takes the same kind of creativity, if not more so. Right? Because TV spots eventually had like a, they had like a, they had rules. Right? And they had a boundary and they were 30 seconds. And, you know, and you can be like, it's actually more of an interesting open canvas when it comes to digital creation. [00:03:54] Ilyse: What would you say is one thing every brand or media buyer should be [00:04:00] thinking about today?  [00:04:01] Mark: Uh, every media buyer, I think, today is just thinking about how they get the, Find the right place for their brand. [00:04:10] I mean, I, I think, I think it's, it's kind of the basic of who's your real target audience and, and how, how are you going to find that audience? And I think they just have to be open minded that it's, that there are so many new ways to reach an audience that they have to spread their wings a little bit. [00:04:28] Right. I mean, I think we went from, it was just TV. to it was just TV and Google and Facebook. So now it's Google Tiktok and retail marketing and so many other things. And I think they just have to be open to experimenting to find where their target audience really is.  [00:04:43] Ilyse: Now it's no secret that the publishing industry is under a lot of pressure today. [00:04:48] And Stagwell recently published a study called the news advertising study with the Findings that showcase that it's safe for brands to advertise next to news, regardless [00:05:00] of the topic, and that adds next to those even like controversial topics performed just as effectively as those within more like positive news environments, maybe like sports or entertainment. [00:05:12] Now in your op ed for the current, you wrote that brands think there is less downside in those positive environments, but the opposite is true too. There is less upside. Can you tell us what you mean and why should advertisers care about these findings?  [00:05:27] Mark: Well, I think that I discovered, and I discovered this when I did the budgeting at Microsoft. [00:05:32] A lot of companies have a huge hole in their media buy. And that hole is news. Uh, that they will be advertising in sports and they will be advertising in entertainment. And they will be blocking out news, or they will be subscribing to a service that in effect blocks them out. And what maybe started out as some good idea, you know, that your, the ad for your, for Boeing shouldn't appear next to a plane crash, really [00:06:00] somehow devolved into something affecting 25 percent of news articles. [00:06:04] Seriously demonetizing journalism. And it's having unintended consequences far beyond that. And brand safety? Seriously? I mean, I've yet to see some brand lying in the curb because their advertisement appeared in the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal. It's a ludicrous notion to be blacking out legitimate journalistic publications for, quote, brand safety. [00:06:30] Damian: In general, the business model for news journalism is sort of evolving and changing. You know, what else is new? What do you think can advertisers and publishers do to work together to make sure that journalism is thriving even as newsrooms shutter?  [00:06:42] Mark: Well, I think that there has to be a little bit of re education here with the CMOs and the media buyers. [00:06:50] I think they're afraid that somehow they're going to trigger some backlash against their company. Yeah, certain, certain things have [00:07:00] triggered a backlash. But to go back to, I've never known that backlash to come from advertising in one of the major publications. And, and so consequently, I think that they can reduce some of their fear levels. [00:07:12] And then also they have to understand that news consumers, right, in about 25 percent of the country, maybe 23 percent of the country, are what I classify as news junkies, right, who, who go in and, and, And kind of get updated on the news five times a day. That is a great engaged audience. They read stuff. [00:07:32] Okay. That means they're more likely actually to kind of absorb your advertisement than someone who doesn't read stuff. Uh, and, and so I think they really have to rethink how some of their media planning and the audiences they're targeting and, and get out there and experiment with news. Cause I, again, I, I think, I think for the social problem here is that it's demonetizing news and putting journalists out, out of work. [00:07:57] But just be greedy. Just, just go, you know, just [00:08:00] think about your brand. I think it will benefit.  [00:08:02] Damian: They shouldn't be on the back foot so much. Speaking of news, of course, this year is a presidential election year in the U. S. and elections all around the world. Um, what do you think are the top channels in today's media landscape for this year's U. [00:08:13] S. presidential election?  [00:08:15] Mark: Well, I, I, I think that's, that's kind of interesting. Look, most campaigns spend most money on TV, right? So, but as I tell commercial advertisers, you know, if you have your customers in Ohio, well, Ohio is a less of a swing state than it was, but let's say Arizona or Nevada, Virginia. [00:08:34] Good luck. Good luck buying media, you know, in the last few months here, because it is going to be jammed because there's more money than ever in politics, right? And so then, then politics is, is, is then going to go over to, to social media. Right? And I think spend a lot of money on on social media, uh, all being right. [00:08:55] And you know, and you're going to find just from an age cohort, you're going to find people on X or [00:09:00] older and people on Tiktok or younger. And kind of, you have to kind of understand your audience and the medium. So it's interesting. You know, I came from a lot of old school TV advertising. Uh, I've yet to see how people as effectively drive a message. [00:09:16] Right on social media. I think they've got to do more work. As I always say, the best digital ads in either politics or commercial have yet to be invented,  [00:09:27] Ilyse: you know, to that. effort, um, especially when connecting with, like, Gen Zers, do you think technology will play more of a role? Is that, do we see candidates still, um, sticking true to, like, social media or are there other channels you think they're playing even more in this year? [00:09:44] Well, it's [00:09:44] Mark: interesting that, you know, what does Trump really do? Trump does events, so his event strategy is then geared to create content that then gets distributed primarily through social media, right? And, and so it's [00:10:00] very interesting because, because it's almost, you know, we look here, you know, I'm, we're, well, we're, we're at something called Sport Beach, and so, so events are back. [00:10:09] And events aren't a substitute for the media. They are, they generate the content that you really need. That's because people, people want content that's fresh, right? And they want to feel that they're in the moment. They don't want something that's old and that's canned. Uh, and so I think that's, that's really, really important. [00:10:28] But we are seeing, look, we know that about 70 percent of budgets now have really gone online. And that is, that is, you know, back, when I was at Microsoft a decade ago, it was probably 2%. So that has gone beyond anybody's expectations. Of course, that was one of the reasons that I founded Stagwell because we saw that and we wanted to be ahead of that curve. [00:10:51] And of course, that's one of the things that we, you know, work together closely with the trade desk on.  [00:10:56] Ilyse: Totally. Um, now personal politics aside, [00:11:00] what advice would you share with Biden's team and Trump's team? Where's the gap in each of their campaigns as, as it stands?  [00:11:07] Mark: Well, but I would really tell both of them the same thing. [00:11:10] Uh, you know, I try to explain to people the math of swing voting, that if an election is 5 5 and it switches, one person switches, it becomes 6 4. Now, it takes two people in turnout to equal one person who switches. So, getting switchers is really the most powerful thing in politics. And getting switchers means appealing to people who don't agree with you, right? [00:11:36] And so what I would say is get out of the politics of the base. Get into the politics of switchers. Reach out to the people who don't agree with you. Try to find compromises, uh, in policy that brings them in. And whoever does that most successfully will not only win, but we'll win in a landslide. And if alternatively they appeal only to their base, they may win. [00:11:57] They may lose, but they will not have changed the 50, [00:12:00] 50 nature of the, of the country.  [00:12:04] Damian: Now, You know, you're known as a sage advisor. What's the best advice you've ever received? Yeah,  [00:12:11] Mark: well the best advice I ever received was at an elevator In which in which In which a guy told me he was a he was he was a stock analyst And he said, buy Amazon. [00:12:33] He said, sell every other stock you have and buy Amazon because they will be the future of retailing. And this was like when Amazon was a peanut, I of course thought the guy was a nutcase. [00:12:48] And so I did not follow that advice. Uh, I would say that, that though, seriously, the, um, You know, I've worked for a lot of incredible people and, and, and [00:13:00] I always try to pick up kind of, kind of what they do best, right. And, and, you know, I worked with president Clinton and president Clinton was just amazing at, at synthesis. [00:13:10] You would, you would throw incredibly complex things at, at him and he would fit them all into, into pieces or, you know, or I worked, you know, with Steve Ballmer, who's a core investor. And I just thought he was like, I didn't understand how he had 110, 000 people and went home. Uh, and how his time management was so radically different than, than mine. [00:13:31] So I always try to pick up things from whomever, whomever I worked with. Uh, and to see like, what's the special thing, some of the special things that, that really work well. Fascinating. Now Stagwell is no stranger to growth or acquisitions. And  [00:13:47] Damian: what does the future hold for Stagwell?  [00:13:50] Mark: Well, you know, I always explain, we started Stagwell eight years ago, you know, at zero. [00:13:55] We're about two and a half billion in revenue now. We [00:14:00] continue to expand out, you know, globally and also globally. You know, building a series of tech, uh, of tech products. Uh, I feel that we're a teenager now, you know, we were a baby two or three years ago and, and, and we've got, we're, we're really now coming on as a challenger network, uh, and we're going to continue to challenge, but we think we have a lot of growth, a lot of growth ahead of us. [00:14:23] Ilyse: Now there's a lot of things affecting the industry. A lot of major topics that are being discussed nonstop. What is your prediction for the end of 2020? 2024 and into 2025.  [00:14:36] Mark: Look, I think this is going to be a good year for marketing. It's going to be 12 billion spent on politics. So that's always helpful, uh, to, to, you know, and, uh, and, you know, I think we have a, we have a good, you know, uh, We have several companies that are in the political space. [00:14:52] Uh, I think that, that advertising is growing, uh, generally. I think 20, I think tech companies [00:15:00] have a lot of work to do in terms of the competition now that's, uh, that's occurring on who's going to really dominate in AI, if anybody, or how are people going to have different flavors of AI. So I think there's a lot of exciting stuff going on. [00:15:14] I think 23 was a year I couldn't wait for it to finish. You know, it was not the year that we were hoping for. But 24, you know, sitting here in mid year, it's looking good. [00:15:23] Damian: And that's it for this edition of The Current Podcast. [00:15:26] We'll be back next week, so stay tuned. [00:15:29] Ilyse: The Current Podcast's theme is by Love Caliber. The current team includes Cat Fessy and Sydney Cairns. [00:15:35] Damian: Cairns. And remember,  [00:15:36] Mark: A lot of companies have a huge hole in their media buy. And that hole is news. [00:15:43] Damian: I'm Damian. [00:15:43] Ilyse: I'm Ilyse. [00:15:44] Damian: And we'll see you next time. 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SERIES 2 EPISODE 194: COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN A-Block (1:44) Trump and Mike Johnson are plotting for House Republicans to somehow "overturn" Trump's convictions in the Stormy Daniels Election Interference trial. That was what they were SUPPOSED to talk about when Trump met with the House GOP yesterday but amid all the threats and terrorism and dictatorship and violence we forget that at his core, Trump is a moron. Whether he and Johnson actually got around to conceive some extra-constitutional scheme to enact ex post facto measure, before or after the election, who knows. All we do know is that Trump wound up insulting and enrages Milwaukee, a month and a day before the Republican Convention is supposed to open there. The blowback was a welcome respite. Three different Wisconsin Congressmen made up four different excuses for Trump calling Milwaukee "horrible." One of them, Bryan Steil, first said Trump said no such thing, then in a local TV interview contradicted himself and said Trump did say it, but was referring to "specific things." The upshot of all of this - and Trump's word salads - and Trump's manic blinking at his news conference where he couldn't handle any questions - is the ever-increasingly obvious reality that Trump is currently losing his mind. And that means for all its bravado and fealty the Republican Party is shackled to a corpse. B-Block (24:30) TRUMPDATE: Late breaking news about Trump's fear of going to prison and the likelihood that if he goes it'll be in a place that is halfway between New York City and ESPN (huh?) (26:14) THE WORST PERSONS IN THE WORLD: Rishi Sunak explains he grew up deprived because he didn't have the British equivalent of HBO. The downward spiral of ex-human being Mark Penn gets worse. And Lauren Boebert is caught vaping in public again and you know WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME! C-Block (34:00) FRIDAYS WITH THURBER: For the first time, a chapter from Thurber's only non-fiction book "The Years With Ross." It includes a quote from a New Yorker Magazine writer that to me is one of the five or ten greatest things uttered by anybody in the history of the world.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Joe and Mark talked about the trouble President Biden and his staff are having trouble connecting with voters in their party. It has become painfully clear that Biden is not mentally fit to lead the country.

SERIES 2 EPISODE 174: COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN A-Block (1:44) SPECIAL COMMENT: We need a Walter Cronkite moment from The New York Times. The New York Times needs, one day – one day soon, one day now – to devote the entirety of the front page – to a headline, and an editorial, signed by the publisher Sulzberger and the editor Kahn and the key columnists and correspondents – headlined “TRUMP IMPERILS DEMOCRACY” and sub-headlined “YOUR LIFE AT STAKE.” We need a Walter Cronkite moment from The New York Times and when Trump went to a Philadelphia area seaside resort called Wildwood, drew maybe 10,000 cultists, lied and had the Republican mayor lie and say it was 80,000, complained that immigrant students don't speak English and immediately afterwards said something like “Borden-in-riv-iv,” said something else like “carry doubt-ite-by-rite,”claimed the president between Ford and Reagan was named Jimmy Connors, said the Chinese were preparing to invade Beijing (their own capital), insisted the entire country was grateful that he killed Roe-V-Wade, thanked – by name - the Supreme Court justices who gutted it, suddenly invoked the fictional cannibal character Hannibal Lecter, seemed to praise him, claimed the character was dead, and got the name of the movie wrong, and then insisted all immigrants are Hannibal Lecter – and all of that was after he was introduced by some immigrant who called him “President CHUMP"... the New York Times story, by a sixth-stringer named Michael Gold, mentioned… none of that. This was what Editor Joe Kahn's writer told consumers of the most influential news organization in America, quote: “After a long and often tense week in his criminal trial in Manhattan… Trump… took part in a time-honored ritual enjoyed by countless New Yorkers in need of a break: He went to the shore.” Oh ho ho, how clever. The Times instead lets Maggie Haberman dismiss as “hearsay” Michael Cohen's first-hand recounting of what Trump told him about ‘not being on the market for long' if Melania dumped him and if Haberman doesn't know the legal definition of “hearsay” get rid of her. And the Times made room for an op-ed bashing Joe Biden by Mark Penn, a dishonest right wing pollster who has been posing as a Democrat for at least 20 years. In Court: “Michael Cohen calmly describes Trump's hush money instructions,” reads the headline in The Washington Post. The SUB-headline quotes Trump: “Just do it.” That's what the prosecution needed out of Cohen. And it needs it again out of him today. AND whenever the cross-examination begins. It needs him making more self-abnegating jokes about ‘angry, even for me.' It needs him testifying as he did yesterday: that he was there in Trump Tower, days before Trump was sworn in as president, with Allan Weisselberg, reviewing a handwritten document plan to repay Cohen for the Stormy Daniels hush money and how they would hide it. And that Trump said “smart individuals” had told him, Trump, to pay the $130,000. And that Trump told him he knew if the Daniels story got out it would be a disaster for the CAMPAIGN. And it needs him producing one outstandingly sleazy quote from Trump per day on the stand, like when Cohen asked Trump about the impact on his wife MELANIA if the story got out and Trump said “don't worry. How long do you think I'll be on the market for? Not long.” B-Block (22:54) EVERY DOG HAS ITS DAY: California Assembly Bill 2265 and what it can do to save dogs - and save shelters the horrible cost of killing them. (24:27) THINGS I PROMISED NOT TO TELL: An update on the back story to the "This Is SportsCenter" commercial I did with soccer's Alexi Lalas, in which I reprised John Belushi's moment in "Animal House" in which he smashes the guitar against the wall. The update? The DVD with the outtakes literally fell off a shelf here yesterday. Enjoy. C-Block (40:35) GOOD NIGHT AND GOOD LUCK.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Rich Zeoli Show- Hour 2: 4:05pm- Rich explains that when it became clear Donald Trump would be the Republican Party's 2024 presidential candidate, President Joe Biden and his administration decided to embrace radical progressive policies—operating under the assumption that election victory would be easily achieved. However, according to new polling from The New York Times, Sienna College, and The Philadelphia Inquirer, Trump now leads President Biden in five of the six key 2024 swing states—Pennsylvania (+3), Arizona (+7), Michigan (+7), Georgia (+10), and Nevada (+12). 4:20pm- Mark Penn—an adviser to former President Bill Clinton and chairman of Harris Poll—says the Biden campaign isn't focused on winning the correct voters. He's attempting to win the radical left, while seemingly forfeiting the moderate/independent vote. Penn explains that the swing voter is worth 2x the value of a progressive voter: “People usually assume that turning out so-called base voters in an election matters most, since swing voters are fewer in number. And it's true that in today's polarized environment, Mr. Biden and Mr. Trump have about 40 percent of voters each and nothing will change those people's minds. But in that remaining 20 percent of the electorate, voters have disproportionate power because of their potential to switch. It's simple math: Take a race tied in the run-up 5 to 5. If one voter swings, the tally becomes 6 to 4. Two voters would then need to be turned out just to tie it up, and a third one would be needed to win.” You can read Penn's full editorial here: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/05/13/nyregion/trump-trial-michael-cohen 4:50pm- Women are paying thousands of dollars to participate in “rage rituals.” Why? Plus, is spray on “hair in a can” a real thing? Yup!

The Rich Zeoli Show- Full Episode (05/14/2024): 3:05pm- Donald Trump's “hush money” trial continued on Tuesday—with the prosecution's key witness Michael Cohen being questioned by Trump's attorneys. According to Jesse McKinley of The New York Times, during cross examination, Cohen was portrayed as someone seeking revenge and looking to earn money via the sale of t-shirts that said: “Convict 45.” You can read more here: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/05/14/nyregion/trump-trial-news-michael-cohen?smid=url-share#95706224-806b-5507-ae9b-e5a422a2b006 3:15pm- In reaction to a stream of negative polling results for President Joe Biden, CNN political commentator Van Jones stated that “the economic prospects for young people are miserable.” 3:35pm- Ben Casselman and Jeanna Smialek of The New York Times write that high interest rates are seriously hurting poorer Americans: “High interest rates haven't crashed the financial system, set off a wave of bankruptcies or caused the recession that many economists feared. But for millions of low and moderate-income families, high rates are taking a toll. More Americans are falling behind on payments on credit card and auto loans, even as many are taking on more debt than ever before.” You can read the full article here: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/14/business/economy/interest-rates-inequality.html 3:40pm- According to a report from Axios, President Joe Biden and his campaign refuse to believe polling which indicates Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is running ahead of Biden in 5 out of 6 key swing states in the 2024 presidential election. 3:55pm- The beloved Disney character Tinker Bell has become the latest victim of cancel culture. 4:05pm- Rich explains that when it became clear Donald Trump would be the Republican Party's 2024 presidential candidate, President Joe Biden and his administration decided to embrace radical progressive policies—operating under the assumption that election victory would be easily achieved. However, according to new polling from The New York Times, Sienna College, and The Philadelphia Inquirer, Trump now leads President Biden in five of the six key 2024 swing states—Pennsylvania (+3), Arizona (+7), Michigan (+7), Georgia (+10), and Nevada (+12). 4:20pm- Mark Penn—an adviser to former President Bill Clinton and chairman of Harris Poll—says the Biden campaign isn't focused on winning the correct voters. He's attempting to win the radical left, while seemingly forfeiting the moderate/independent vote. Penn explains that the swing voter is worth 2x the value of a progressive voter: “People usually assume that turning out so-called base voters in an election matters most, since swing voters are fewer in number. And it's true that in today's polarized environment, Mr. Biden and Mr. Trump have about 40 percent of voters each and nothing will change those people's minds. But in that remaining 20 percent of the electorate, voters have disproportionate power because of their potential to switch. It's simple math: Take a race tied in the run-up 5 to 5. If one voter swings, the tally becomes 6 to 4. Two voters would then need to be turned out just to tie it up, and a third one would be needed to win.” You can read Penn's full editorial here: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/05/13/nyregion/trump-trial-michael-cohen 4:50pm- Women are paying thousands of dollars to participate in “rage rituals.” Why? Plus, is spray on “hair in a can” a real thing? Yup! 5:05pm- In her new article for The Washington Examiner, columnist Salena Zito asks did Trump make a 4D chess move with his speech in Wildwood, New Jersey? Zito writes: “In 2016, Clinton won Mahoning County with 49% of the vote, defeating Trump by a hair. For perspective, just four years earlier, then-President Barack Obama crushed Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney by a whopping 28 points in the Mahoning Valley, earning 63% of the vote of this mostly white working-class voter base. Those same working-class white voters, on whom Democrats relied to carry the state twice for the first Black president, would soon be called racist, uneducated, and angry just four years later for supporting Trump. Fast-forward to last weekend when Trump, plagued by nonstop reports of his trial for allegedly covering up hush money payments, held a rally in Wildwood, New Jersey, and attracted more than 80,000 supporters in a state no Republican presidential candidate has won since then-Vice President George H.W. Bush in 1988.” Will Trump win the 2024 presidential election thanks to his appeal to working class Americans who feel left behind by the Democrat party? You can read her full story here: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/3003815/was-trump-making-4d-chess-move-speech-new-jersey/ 5:30pm- During an Oxford Union debate, Winston Marshall—the former banjoist and lead guitarist for the band Mumford & Sona—argued that “Populism has become a word used synonymously with ‘racist'…with ‘bigot,' with ‘hillbilly'…elites use it to show their contempt for ordinary people.” Throughout the evening, Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) interrupted her debate opponent—claiming that populism is a threat to democracy and that the 2016 election had been “hijacked.” 5:40pm- Rich keeps unbuttoning his shirt as part of an effort to grow our YouTube audience…but nobody wants to see that! 6:05pm- Completely unbiased ABC News journalist George Stephanopoulos told the ladies of The View that if Donald Trump were to win the 2024 election, the White House Situation Room would be “uncontrolled” and pose a threat to American stability. 6:10pm- On HBO's Real Time, host Bill Maher accused The New York Times of being an instrument of the Democrat Party. 6:30pm- Comedian Jerry Seinfeld delivered the commencement address at Duke University's graduation. PLUS, Vice President Kamala Harris drops a hard f-bomb while speaking at the Asian Pacific American Institute's leadership summit. 6:40pm- Erin Perrine—Political Strategist with Axiom Strategies—joins The Rich Zeoli Show to recap Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump's massive rally in Wildwood, New Jersey where an estimated 80,000 to 100,000 people attended. Can President Joe Biden do anything to slow down Trump's momentum?

The Rich Zeoli Show- Hour 1: 3:05pm- On Saturday, Republican presential candidate Donald Trump held a campaign event in Wildwood, New Jersey—where an estimated 80,000 to 100,000 supporters were in attendance. According to Collin Rugg, the size of the crowd rivaled a 1932 speech Franklin Delano Roosevelt delivered from Sea Grit, NJ.   3:15pm- According to polling from The New York Times, Sienna College, and The Philadelphia Inquirer, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump now leads President Joe Biden in five of the six key 2024 swing states—Pennsylvania (+3), Arizona (+7), Michigan (+7), Georgia (+10), and Nevada (+12). The polling data shows Biden with a 2-point lead in Wisconsin. You can read more here: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/13/us/politics/biden-trump-battleground-poll.html 3:20pm- Nate Cohn of The New York Times writes of recent 2024 Presidential Election polling: “The sense that [President Joe] Biden would do little to improve the nation's fortunes has helped erode his standing among young, Black and Hispanic voters, who usually represent the foundation of any Democratic path to the presidency. The Times/Siena polls found that the three groups wanted fundamental changes to American society, not just a return to normalcy, and few believed that Mr. Biden would make even minor changes that would be good for the country. [Donald] Trump and Mr. Biden are essentially tied among 18-to-29-year-olds and Hispanic voters, even though each group gave Mr. Biden more than 60 percent of their vote in 2020. Mr. Trump also wins more than 20 percent of Black voters—a tally that would be the highest level of Black support for any Republican presidential candidate since the enactment of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.” You can read the full article here: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/13/us/politics/biden-trump-battleground-poll.html 3:40pm- Mark Penn—an adviser to former President Bill Clinton and chairman of Harris Poll—says the Biden campaign isn't focused on winning the correct voters. He's attempting to win the radical left, while seemingly forfeiting the moderate/independent vote. Penn explains that the swing voter is worth 2x the value of a progressive voter: “People usually assume that turning out so-called base voters in an election matters most, since swing voters are fewer in number. And it's true that in today's polarized environment, Mr. Biden and Mr. Trump have about 40 percent of voters each and nothing will change those people's minds. But in that remaining 20 percent of the electorate, voters have disproportionate power because of their potential to switch. It's simple math: Take a race tied in the run-up 5 to 5. If one voter swings, the tally becomes 6 to 4. Two voters would then need to be turned out just to tie it up, and a third one would be needed to win.” You can read Penn's full editorial here: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/05/13/nyregion/trump-trial-michael-cohen

The Rich Zeoli Show- Full Episode (05/13/2024): 3:05pm- On Saturday, Republican presential candidate Donald Trump held a campaign event in Wildwood, New Jersey—where an estimated 80,000 to 100,000 supporters were in attendance. According to Collin Rugg, the size of the crowd rivaled a 1932 speech Franklin Delano Roosevelt delivered from Sea Grit, NJ.   3:15pm- According to polling from The New York Times, Sienna College, and The Philadelphia Inquirer, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump now leads President Joe Biden in five of the six key 2024 swing states—Pennsylvania (+3), Arizona (+7), Michigan (+7), Georgia (+10), and Nevada (+12). The polling data shows Biden with a 2-point lead in Wisconsin. You can read more here: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/13/us/politics/biden-trump-battleground-poll.html 3:20pm- Nate Cohn of The New York Times writes of recent 2024 Presidential Election polling: “The sense that [President Joe] Biden would do little to improve the nation's fortunes has helped erode his standing among young, Black and Hispanic voters, who usually represent the foundation of any Democratic path to the presidency. The Times/Siena polls found that the three groups wanted fundamental changes to American society, not just a return to normalcy, and few believed that Mr. Biden would make even minor changes that would be good for the country. [Donald] Trump and Mr. Biden are essentially tied among 18-to-29-year-olds and Hispanic voters, even though each group gave Mr. Biden more than 60 percent of their vote in 2020. Mr. Trump also wins more than 20 percent of Black voters—a tally that would be the highest level of Black support for any Republican presidential candidate since the enactment of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.” You can read the full article here: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/13/us/politics/biden-trump-battleground-poll.html 3:40pm- Mark Penn—an adviser to former President Bill Clinton and chairman of Harris Poll—says the Biden campaign isn't focused on winning the correct voters. He's attempting to win the radical left, while seemingly forfeiting the moderate/independent vote. Penn explains that the swing voter is worth 2x the value of a progressive voter: “People usually assume that turning out so-called base voters in an election matters most, since swing voters are fewer in number. And it's true that in today's polarized environment, Mr. Biden and Mr. Trump have about 40 percent of voters each and nothing will change those people's minds. But in that remaining 20 percent of the electorate, voters have disproportionate power because of their potential to switch. It's simple math: Take a race tied in the run-up 5 to 5. If one voter swings, the tally becomes 6 to 4. Two voters would then need to be turned out just to tie it up, and a third one would be needed to win.” You can read Penn's full editorial here: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/05/13/nyregion/trump-trial-michael-cohen 4:05pm- On Monday, former Trump attorney Michael Cohen testified in the “hush money” case brought against former President Donald Trump. As a convicted felon, will the jury find Cohen a credible witness? 4:30pm- Alan Dershowitz—The Felix Frankfurter Professor of Law, Emeritus at Harvard University Law School—joins The Rich Zeoli Show to discuss the “hush money” case being brought against former President Donald Trump. Professor Dershowitz reacts to Trump's former attorney Michael Cohen's testimony—emphasizing that when Cohen “moves his lips, he lies.” He explains: “Never in the history of the United States has anyone ever been prosecuted for failure to disclose the payment of ‘hush money'…this is a one off.” You can find Professor Dershowitz's book, “Get Trump: The Threat to Civil Liberties, Due Process, and Our Constitutional Rule of Law,” here: https://a.co/d/g5v1Pau 4:40pm- While leaving court on Monday, Donald Trump said the case being brought against him “is all politics.” 4:50pm- While appearing in Wildwood, NJ, former President Donald Trump joked about having the “world's best hotdog” and said of a rise in prices caused by Bidenomics, “I don't have bacon anymore. It's too expensive!” 5:05pm- Steve Hanke—Professor of Applied Economics at Johns Hopkins University & former Senior Economist for Ronald Reagan's Council of Economic Advisers—joins The Rich Zeoli Show to discuss his latest article for Reason, “Sanctions Are for Losers.” Professor Hanke warns that the Biden Administration is adopting a form of “state capitalism” which he describes as mimicking Xi Jinping's China. Hanke was recently named one of the most influential people in Washington, D.C. by the Washingtonian Magazine. You can read the article here: https://reason.com/2024/05/02/sanctions-are-for-losers/ 5:40pm- Matthew Petti of Reason writes: “Just asking questions? That might become illegal, sort of, in New Jersey. Powerful interest groups there are pushing a bill that would overhaul the state Open Public Records Act (OPRA), making it harder for the public to request government documents—and the legislature might vote on it today. One provision would allow state and local agencies to sue people who request too many documents at once.” You can read the full article here: https://reason.com/2024/05/13/new-jersey-mayors-want-the-power-to-sue-you-for-asking-too-many-questions/ 6:05pm- Wendell Husebo of Breitbart writes: “Some records of phone calls related to the criminal prosecution of former President Donald Trump were deleted from case files, Manhattan District Attorney Office paralegal Jaden Jarmel-Schneider admitted during the trial. The acknowledgment is important because the defense may not have all of the evidence necessary.” You can read the full article here: https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/05/13/braggs-paralegal-admits-call-records-deleted-from-trump-case-files/ 6:30pm- John Yoo—The Emanuel S. Heller Professor of Law at the University of California at Berkeley & a visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University—joins The Rich Zeoli Show to discuss Michael Cohen's testimony on Monday in Donald Trump “hush money” trial. Plus, is Trump right—does Wildwood really have the best hotdogs?

On Friday's Mark Levin Show, Republicans will only have a one-vote majority in the House of Representatives now that Rep Mike Gallagher is stepping down. This is happening at a time when Republicans already do not have the votes to do anything because a third of Republicans are unreliable, not because of who is Speaker of the House. Also, 40 people were killed and over 100 were injured in an attack at a concert hall by ISIS in Moscow, Russia. Our borders are wide open to this horrific type of attack, which is funded by President Biden sending billions to Iran. We are facing a second Muslim crusade around the world and Democrats like Biden, Blinken, Schumer, Sanders, and Tlaib are cheering it on. Later, Mark speaks with Fox News contributor Mark Penn about Chuck Schumer's anti-Netanyahu speech on the Senate floor and the anti-Israel policies of the Biden Administration and the Democrat party. Finally, Mark is joined by Fox News host and author Jesse Watters to discuss his new book Get It Together: Troubling Tales from the Liberal Fringe and his firsthand experience with radical liberal Democrats. https://www.amazon.com/Get-Together-Solve-Problems-Politics/dp/0063252031 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Listen to this week's No Spin News interview with William Doyle, Ph.D. of the Caesar Rodney Election Research Institute and Mark Penn, Co-chair of the Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll. We also visit the No Spin News archives and Bill's conversation with Former Congressman Pete King. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices