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I'm like "Just the water." There you go "Just the water." But anyhow I say all that to say the blue plate special of the day at McBee's whether you're eating healthy or not they got you covered 'cause you can do the chicken breast but today's Thursday the special is red sauce spaghetti and it is oh so good if you like spaghetti I'm not even a red sauce spaghetti fan I like alfredos- Really Okay and the chicken spaghettis and stuff But I will eat it here and there Like if somebody cooks it I'm not pushing it away But I did I wanted to try everything on the menu Yeah So I could honestly give you my my opinion on it Their red sauce spaghetti's great but if that's not your thing they do have um hamburger steak which is works great for keto They have chicken breast or country fried steak And of course the vegetables okra and stewed tomatoes black-eyed peas turnip greens rice and gravy side salad lima beans green beans mashed potatoes mac and cheese fried okra or fries So you know if you been doing this long enough you know you can create you a carb less plate lunch right there from McBee's And uh I I went a little half and half yesterday I did get the fried okra 'cause they have in my opinion the best fried okra in town It's hard to pass fried okra man It it it really is Let's uh let's take a call real quick before we jump into this conversation on the Mazda Jackson phone line Hey good morning you're on the air Good morning Clay Uh I was headed toward I-220 yesterday going to Industrial Drive take my son some lunch I live in Rankin County of course But on the way up there that going there is nothing but a junk It's trash and I was thinking since the fair was gonna be in town everybody was gonna clean up everything mattresses on the highway Uh it was just it was just unbelievable And where was that at 20 westbound going to I-220- Oh oh to Industrial Drive Oh oh yeah It was terrible Yeah it it's bad C- like of course I come through there every day and I'm just wildly disappointed I will say that at least up through the Ellis Avenue area there they do have the street lights working again Uh so kudos to MDOT for that Okay Okay but everything else it it was just terrible the fair will be here today and they would have everything cleaned up but no Ah it's unfortunate- So but hey what you know if you don't expect anything you won't be disappointed when you don't get it.That is true And I didn't expect nothing else from out of Highlands County But thank you Have a great day Enjoy the show Bye You Thanks I love- Look- I love my callers Ca- can I say this though I actually do think that Mayor John Horn's doing a good job so far I do too Yeah I mean look are are there things that people wish would happen faster Yeah But if you look at sort of the level of activity you know just getting out and filling potholes and paving streets and the stuff that's the basic blocking and tackling I think they're looking for the right police chief obviously right now Um you gotta give them a little credit compared to where we were were you know just- Oh sure a few months ago Well you know it's like I said for the the year leading up to the election whoever wins if they'll just come in and quit doing all the wrong things right they'll they're gonna look really smart Just just letting you know like a like letting a a s- a let- letting a a wound heal on your arm a scab If we just quit picking at it it'll heal Uh the last mayor and the administration in general just kept picking at scabs And for the analogy here it's like uh traditionally you know for 100 years for government to run correctly you just take a right take a right take a right Uh at every opportunity to take a traditional right chalk away to the left And if you would just get back to taking the rights just doing the right thing period You don't have to be the smartest guy in the room but it's gotten so bad if you'll just do that again you're gonna look great And I think John's getting back to just do it just let's just quit trying to reinven- vent the wheel and just let it go round and round and some of this will autocorrect Yeah and look John's smart Um I think he's surrounding himself with some smart people I mean we'll see how it plays out It's earl- it's too early to say that it's going to be a a raving success But comparatively already they're doing things and I think have kind of built the right kind of team Um and then you know you look at the level of cooperation that I think you're going to get from the legislature from the governor um they all like him I mean he had a history of working across the aisle and being easy to talk to and easy to work with And I think people are gonna want to help um you know as we come up into this next session And so I think Jackson's like if if I I know part of of your brand has been like hey Jackson's not where it needs to be and that's true I think Jackson has an opportunity right now to right some wrongs Yeah 100% Look I said it straight up Now there's gonna be some things I talk about 'cause this this is my brand this is my show I mean I'm going to talk about Jackson crime and some of the things I see that are just- Sure out of control But like just the culture rot more so But I did say I'm I'm gonna give it a year bef- unless there's something just egregious I'm gonna give John a year to find the bathrooms so to say before I start really peeling back and you know being nitpicky 'Cause I I think that there's gonna be a lot there's a lot to un- to un-F around here and I'm gonna give him an opportunity to get that get his people in place let them figure out where the bathrooms are at And I'll be honest there the these people I think the expectation is you gotta come in and start working from day one and you're seeing that You mentioned it with the potholes And so these people they're hiring they seem to be hitting the ground running and that's uh wildly impressive uh based on the last 7 or 8 years And look I I would say this too is like uh it's possible to do both things to recognize that progress is being made in a way that is at least somewhat encouraging and simultaneously not to hide from the fact that there's some significant challenges in Jackson that are gonna be hard for anybody to solve for Uh no no doubt No doubt Because I I look I'm exci- I'm optimistic for the first time instead of pessimistic that some things are gonna get done and that we're gonna start enforcing some laws around here And little stuff like code ordinance and whatnot are gonna be big things And not just Quit just going after businesses to go after How about start going after people for the broke down cars in their yard All this little stuff You know get back to the quality of life things Get back to people holding the people accountable for not cutting their grass holding businesses accountable uh illegal signage I mean let's get back to enforcing what's on the books Code ordinances to me is just like the number one thing that the last administration just said "Nah We're we're not gonna bully the citizens." Yeah I mean I think this is true not just in Jackson but everywhere but having pride in where you live is a pretty good indicator of how of of the quality of life that you're gonna have Well you know look Russ one of the things for me that really grinded my gears and I did not intend to get on this but we're here now uh there's a crew of guys and God bless them and I don't talk about them much but it's the guys they're all from like Rankin and Madison County and they've been cleaning the interstates and all that It's Casey Bridges and some other guys and they're doing they're doing great great work Uh but uh there's a part of me that wishes they didn't do it and this is just selfish I get it I should be glad they're doing it and I should I should give them their roses right But they're they're doing it for a bunch of people who really don't appreciate it overwhelmingly They the second they cleaned up the interstate pressure wash it all their stuff these people and some of the comments I've seen online from people is "Y'all supposed to be doing it Y'all should be doing it We shouldn't be having to Y'all all left Jackson The least you can do is come back and clean it." I'm like how about thank you How about that H- how about y'all clean your own city Or how about I don't know the people that we pay taxes to clean and pressure wash the interstates and bridges and everything else how about they do You know Like the citizenry shouldn't have to be uh doing Yeah look and I think there's I think there's a danger a- and I came up in churches I came up doing mission work um and part of the danger that I saw in church mission work is like you would take a group of youth to some city right in the United States presumably with the thought that you were gonna share the gospel of Christ but really it was a work trip And you'd go into a neighborhood and you'd clean up trash or you'd paint houses um and and you were helping to beautify where people lived and at some level it reinforces bad behavior right Because in an ideal world some random person doesn't come and clean Russ's yard- Right 'cause Russ is trashy Russ gets out and cleans his yard because he cares enough about where he lives whether it's an 800 square foot or 8,000 square foot house right He cares enough about where he lives that he's gonna take care of his own property And if everybody does that communities get a lot safer they get a lot closer to each other um and so at some level it's reinforcing um bad behavior if somebody else comes and does it for you when it's something that you're capable of doing yourself and should be motivated to do Yeah How about don't throw trash out your car when you're driving down the interstate That's a good start How about don't litter so people don't have to do this Yeah I mean these are real simple things You know we're we're rewarding bad behavior Well how about y'all come pressure wash my driveway cut my yard I'm doing I'm doing good You know what I'm saying And look there are there are exceptions to this right If you have if you have an 85-year-old live-in widow who can't get out and cut the grass then I think it's awesome that somebody will go and volunteer to cut her grass Amen And that should happen right And so that's that's a different scenario Like I would rather see that energy put in that direction you know find out the little who the little old ladies are that need the help the little old men whatever Let's And I'm not saying people aren't helping them but I'd rather see that than um cleaning up the interstates and all that stuff Again I think they're d- I don't want to diminish what they're doing I think it's great But I feel like you're enabling the people who are littering and doing this I don't know I'm just wildly conflicted I think it enables bad behavior as y- as kind of it rewards bad behavior as you said Well and look I mean you see this internationally and I think even progressives now recognize some of the damage that was done globally in what was a well-intentioned thing like "Hey we're gonna go feed the world," right "There are hungry people we're gonna go feed the world." Or uh "There are places where there's not indoor plumbing or running water" or whatever we're gonna go fix that We did it for people and never taught people th- that skillset in a way that even today there's reliance there And so I think the challenge has always been like how do you be tenderhearted and compassionate the way that I would argue the Bible requires you to be while simultaneously recognizing that sometimes being tenderhearted and compassionate is forcing people to get into uncomfortable situations to figure it out for themselves Yeah Uh what I feel like is kinda done too and this is just from me directly here is it's raised the price of tea in China a bit 'cause now when I get to arguing about people and the things that they've done to Jackson "Well why ain't you out there like them other guys cleaning up the interstate?" 'Cause I'm not gonna clean up your mess I'm not your mama is why God bless them that they feel moved to do that and that's their ministry My ministry is putting my boot up your ass and and telling you that you've screwed up That's my ministry I mean look people were mad at MrBeast was it about a year ago 'Cause he was going into parts of Africa that didn't have wells And was digging wells And I mean I even again even really progressive voices were saying this is counterproductive because really what needs to happen in those settings is like people have the resources and institutional knowledge to do that for themselves 'cause that's sustainable long term Yeah And those wells were already dried up and no good and been robbed and pillaged and everything else from my understanding is It was all just a big waste and look at- Although I I will say that that guy tries to do a lot of good He really does He does He does I'm not hating on him Uh he he does try to do a lot of good but he gets paid very well for the good deeds he does That's true too You know with content monetization But hey I'm not a hater on that at all Thank y'all for the uh money I made the last couple months on uh my content All right Let's take a break When we come back we're actually gonna jump into the TPUSA versus Clinton uh debacle that's going on out there Don't go anywhere here on The Clay Edwards Show 1039 WYAB This is Central Mississippi's stimulating talk 1039 WYAB Pocahontas Jackson.It's time to fall into savings at Mazda of Jackson With ball games road trips and all the busyness don't miss a thing with 2.9% financing for 36 months on a new 2025 Mazda CX-5 Or get 2.9% financing for 63 months on the 2025 CX-90 One-year maintenance is included on your new vehicle purchase And take advantage of the pre-tariff inventory that's almost gone Shop online at mazdaofjackson.com or visit Mazda of Jackson I-55 Frontage Road in Jackson Looking for the ultimate reset for your body and skin At Core Wellness and Recovery you'll find next-level services like cryotherapy red light therapy infrared sauna body sculpting and advanced facials Whether you want to boost performance recover faster or just feel your best Core Wellness and Recovery delivers real results with 0 downtime From muscle relief to radiant skin this is self-care redefined Come experience the future of wellness Core Wellness and Recovery just off Highland Colony in Ridgeland Book now at corewellnessandrecovery.com Hey guys This is KC Ellis with LS Autoplex located on Highway 471N Brandon LS Autoplex known as Little Truck City is your old-school mom-and-pop-style dealership that's family-owned and operated We specialize in 4wheel drive trucks but don't worry we have cars and SUVs too Looking to sell your vehicle Bring it by LS Autoplex where we pay fair market value and we cut you a check on the spot Need your vehicle serviced or repaired We can handle that too Shop us online or set your appointment at lsautoplex.com That's lsautoplex.com Tri-County Tree Service the Jackson Metro's premier company to handle all of your tree service needs Russ Bourland and his team specialize in large tree low-impact removal Tri-County Tree Service has the right equipment to safely handle the most technical trim jobs or tree removals Storm damage can happen year-round so let them clean it up and they'll deal with your insurance claim Tri-County Tree Service By phone at 601-TREE-GUY or online at tricotreeservice.com That's tricotreeservice.com Craving something extraordinary in Jackson Manship Restaurant is where your taste buds hit the jackpot Join us for happy hour every day from 3:00 to 6:00 PM where your wallet will thank you and your stomach will sing Indulge in half-priced woodfire pizzas because why pay full price for half the fun And for just $5 dive into our private barrel bourbon picks That's right luxury on a budget Plus beat the heat with our frozen drink specials a tropical escape without the travel expenses Make your way to the Manship where happy hour isn't just a time it's an experience Are you a wine enthusiast Are you looking for the perfect bottle to elevate your next dinner The ultimate destination for wine lovers is 042 Wine & Spirits on West Government Street in Brandon The locally owned the locally operated 042 Wine offers something for everyone from local favorites to rare vintage wines 042 Wine & Spirits can help you find your next favorite wine The friendly and knowledgeable folks at 042 Wine & Spirits will help you find the perfect bottle for every occasion 042 Wine & Spirits located on West Government Street in Brandon ......... For decades you've known the name Martin's for good times great food and the best live music Now that's happening at 2 locations downtown Jackson and Livingston Check the websites martinslivingtonms.com and martinsdowntownjxn.com for the many special events and live music lineups You can chill with friends on the big patio at the Livingston location and enjoy the blue plate lunches and nightly drink specials Martin's downtown and Livingston Broadcasting live from the Men's Health & Women's Wellness of Mississippi studios this is the Clay Edwards Show Welcome back in to the Clay Edwards Show Uh we got about 5 or 6 minutes left on this hour here 6 minutes so let's just jump straight in I'm not gonna do an ad read right now Russ TPUSA verse Uh first off this is the first time you and I have had a chance to talk since the assassination of Charlie Kirk Let let me ask you this We You're g- you're here for the next hour right Uh I can stay for a while yeah Okay So w- we can peel this onion back a little slower When when that happened man take me back to 'Cause it's it's gonna be That's the moment I'll never forget That's 9/11 like 9/11 I'll never forget who I was with exactly what I was doing the whole thing is just It is f- f- like frozen in time in my brain the way I felt and everything I'm sure you've gotten threats- Yeah uh over the years You know I know I have Uh te- take us back to the the day of the assassination t- as this all this whole thing unfolded What Where were you at What were you doing How did you feel Put us in the timeline please Yeah yeah I was just I was just working Um you know I think I I happened to see on Twitter the the closeup video and I've never seen anything like that in my life Like I've I practiced law for a while and some of my practice uh involved life insurance claims and so I've seen photos that are gruesome I've never seen sort of in real time the amount of blood that was involved in that And I don't say that to be gory or salacious but- No I know what you mean it it that that alone the injury alone impacted me I think it was an odd moment in the sense that like we had seen President Trump obviously get shot in Butler Pennsylvania I didn't have the same emotional reaction to that as I had to the Kirk assassination Part of it is that Trump obviously survived I was gonna say the immediate That would be different if he hadn't of survived or hadn't got up on his own- I I think that's right Yeah I think the other part of it though is uh and and this may come across wrong is like at some level if there's gonna be a political assassination you would expect it to be someone in Congress or a president right Somebody that actually has the ability to impact policy that impacts people Charlie Kirk had none of that He had no political power other than the fact that his ideas impacted people Had influence And so the the thing that I think was disturbing is somebody that clearly doesn't have nearly the audience or scale that he's got but who has um been involved in conversations around policy for a long time is like "Hey somebody could be killed just for what they think." Um in a country that has been built off of the idea that the free exchange of ideas is sort of bedrock to who we are as a people part of what makes us ex- exceptional And so in that moment I think there was a vulnerability You mentioned 9/11 Obviously 9/11 involved 3,000 people dying it involved wars after the fact so a different scale but a similar type of vulnerability where you go "Oh my gosh like things like this can happen." To everyday people To everyday people Yeah Um and there was also this poignant moment in my brain of he's on a college campus and if you think about the whole point of college it really should be a marketplace of ideas where you test what ideas work and what ideas don't Iron sharpens iron kind of thing And so that's the that is the environment that should be most suitable to real exploration and debate of tough issues Um and so I think it was just sort of that juxtaposition of like here's a normal guy who got killed for his ideas and thoughts on a college campus um and it created a sense of real vulnerability I think it also woke up a lot of people who said like "Hey look this is not just a words versus words thing." Like we're at a moment societally where people are so angry at each other and see each other so much as their enemy that stuff like this can happen Yeah yeah That's a great that's a great explanation of it It it was just the the vulnerability and it really made me take a a step back and I I know that my friends and family all and and audience all mean well when they're like "Hey man you really need to keep your head on a swivel." And and so on and so forth you know with all the stuff that you deal with and do and say and everything else Uh and it did it made it real You make people mad Yeah Yeah Apparently So I'm very polarizing they say Uh but it it just ki- it blows my mind I won't say it kills me figuratively that that your words can anger somebody so bad that they want to kill you Like to me I'm just talking about thugs and criminals and people who have actually killed people and But it's never them that I'm really worried about It's people who feel like they had to defend them or that they get offended by the blast radius of me talking about them It's like I we have to kill this guy I w- "Oh so why does Clay keep talking about uh Black violence and Black on Black crime I wish he would shut up Oh you know what I'm gonna commit a crime I'm gonna be violent and threaten him." Like well you're mad You're gonna do the thing that you're mad that I'm talking about Well and look you know- It it blows my mind And it ain't just them I get I get I get death threats from from White people too Sure And and so what I would say is I mean like we we grew up with this adage "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words may will won't ever hurt me." There's some truth to that but uh there's also there there's a degree of falsehood to that because we're emotional people right And things do hurt people's feelings or get people angry or or fearful Um but we bought into for a little while this idea and it really started on the the left side of the spectrum in c- on college campuses that words are violence And if you allow yourself to believe that the things that Clay says and you say some stuff I disagree with Sure Um I say some stuff you disagree with right But like if you allow yourself to buy into this idea that the words that Clay says are violence then you become justified in doing violence But they also tell us that silence is violence So words are violence and silence is violence if you're if you're not You ca- you it's it's not just You can't just be against racism you have to be a outspoken anti-racist as well So if you don't agree with them publicly if you're not a outspoken ally you might as well be an enemy and that is dangerous as well Yeah I look I just think we've gotta we've gotta get to the point again where we recognize that violence is violence Like if I walk up to you and punch you in the face you have the ability to punch me back But if I walk up to you and tell you "You're a colossal dumbass," your response should be "Well I don't like you either," or whatever Yeah But you don't you don't You're not justified in in punching me in the face So I agree And so like just getting to the point where we're emotionally mature enough to recognize there are gonna be people who say things that we absolutely disagree with And we can either debate those people or we can roll our eyes and move on I mean I think that every time I'm on Facebook I'm like "Why are these random people starting fights with people you don't even know?" Right Like you are wasting your time Roll your eyes and move on Yeah I got into a Jeremy England commented something yesterday made a post yesterday about uh people P- people starting off they wanna debate you but they insult you first Like "You effing idiot why don't you debate me?" Or "You're a douchebag why don't you debate me?" Well you've already crossed into the assaults Sure Why would Why would I debate you I dealt with the same thing uh earlier this week with some little 300 followers uh sending me all kind of nasty messages trying to get me to debate him Basically he wants me to platform him Sure You know I'm like I'm just There's no- You're smart enough to know that right Yeah Yeah Like why why would I do that Sure But even if I were to entertain it the way you started the conversation off with the insults I have Why would I want to do that for you Like to introduce you to my quarter million followers uh would be the best thing that ever happened to you if you're if you're so good if your opinions are so strong you could take advantage of that like like I've done in the past But now because you've insulted me to start the conversation I'm not gonna do that We gotta take a break We'll be right back with Russ Lateno here on WYAB Actually we're going to carry the conversation on in the uh live chat during the break Y'all don't go nowhere You gotta take the headphones off for this Okay Yeah during the breaks it it sends the radio signal whatever the commercials through the headphones Okay But uh If we But we're still alive we can talk Uh I like this conversation and I don't wanna just stop it 'cause we're gonna have like a weird run of commercials here but it it is It's like if you wanna debate I'll I will debate you I don't really like the debating thing anyway Let's just talk Like you and I met up and we talked about the school choice stuff Yeah We're on the opposite sides of the same On some of And I came out of that conversation I didn't really change my mind but I appreciated the fact that we had a logical conversation and I was a- and you were interested in why I felt the way I felt And I think that's always the best way to If you're ever gonna get somebody to change their mind is to listen to how they feel about it be respectful about that and then explain why you feel the way you do put your side out there and let the uh marketplace of ideas win the day Yeah no I think that's right I mean I think There's there's this thing called uh sunk cost fallacy in economics which is like once somebody believes something or once they've invested in something It happens in in actual trading like marketplace where it's like "Hey I've invested in this stock and it's lost 50% of its value," and instead of getting out of it you're waiting for it to somehow redeem itself And I think the problem with modern debate is too many people go into it with a thought process that says "Under no circumstances am I ever gonna change my mind." And there's gotta be a willingness 1 to hear To your point hear what somebody else has to say and consider the possibility that they might be right and you might be wrong um if you're gonna have any kind of movement And I think that used to happen at a better in a better way before social media But social media has Like this conversation we're having obviously I guess on YouTube but um social media has made it such that you have an audience now So the stakes for changing your mind have gone up It's become harder to change your mind because that's seen as a pride hit or an ego hit Yeah Um right Versus if you're just having a one-on-one conversation you might go "Hey I hadn't thought of that that way." Yeah Well even If you look like you agree with the other person you lost Yeah Yeah Like you've you've lost some reputation Yeah You've lost part of your brand Um and I would say like even like the school choice conversation that we had Yeah like we disagreed on the idea of public to public um school choice like where a kid gets to leave one public school and go to another Um but we didn't disagree on the idea of like- Mm-hmm universal What's called Universal ESAs right Where like a portion of the money that students already are getting spent on by the state that would allow them to go to a private school Like I think we agreed on that part right We agreed with that So And that and that's what you You weren't aware that I did agree with you on that And we kind of came out of that It's like really it's just like if there's 2 3 thirds here there's just one third of this thing I don't agree with Yeah And so like but being able to have that conversation in a non-combative way it was like oh wait there actually is common ground Mm-hmm We just disagree on this one thing over here Well then there's an opportunity for us to get something done Yeah Well you know at the end of the day I'm a negotiator You know Yeah I'm a dealsman And uh- Well and that's the nature of that's the nature of life It's also the nature of of legislation is like you have to have trade-offs No no a- a- absolutely circling back to the the Jeremy England thing real quick So I just commented and I told the little the little story about this guy trying to argue with me I was like he started off with an insult Why would I you know grant him the ability to come on and you know just platform this guy Why would I make him famous You know what I mean So to say Not that I have not that my platform's that big but long story short And he never fails A coup- a couple people in the comments "Oh well Clay you don't You're scared to debate people You just like to argue with people." And you know what was funny is I've never been rude to a guest on this show ever Even people I've disagreed with Uh frankly it's hard to get people to come on here that disagree with me Uh but I've always been respectful I'm I I can't even think of a time that I've shouted anybody down Yeah Uh at all Maybe argue with some callers here and there that call very aggressively So it's like so it's kind of like this myth of because Clay is an outspoken conservative he must also be scared of debate uh because he doesn't interview Democrats Well f- bro where are these Democrats at that want to come on and actually debate You know so to say Well and at at some level it's like and you mentioned that you don't even like the word- Like straw man arguments that are put- Well you don't even like the word debate right And it's like well if the point of the conversation is a good faith exchange of ideas where people are open to having their minds changed those are conversations worth having If the point of the conversation is to get famous by making you look stupid- Yeah I mean no- nobody's ever had their mind changed by being made to feel stupid No Never Never Um they might give up They might well but they're at the end of the day they're angry about it Um and they're they're even more dug in to than where they started right And so yeah I mean again there's some there's some biblical truth here which is like you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar And if you want to have constructive conversations the best way to do that is not by assuming the other person is stupid but by trying to understand why they believe what they believe That's why Shawn and I have had such a good friendship that was supposed to kind of start off as a bit of a debate show We realized that we agreed on so much stuff for the most part And we also agreed that even when we get our angriest that we're gonna be adults Yeah And not get into a shouting match And in involving Shawn you know for those couple years on the show uh before they went off and did their own thing uh was really really good for me learning you know actually finally having somebody sitting across from me that we did disagree on some stuff And learning that for the most part we agreed on like real core principle things It's just kinda like these ancillary things that we disagree on Uh that was a very healthy uh growing point for me to be able to say okay maybe I'm not as bedrock about some of these things as I thought I was And then there are some things that it made me realize that I'm even more adamant about Well and there's something different when you're sitting down across from somebody versus preaching at them on the internet and you don't have to see them or meet them or whatnot right Like and you see that in other areas of life So like as an example the conversation around immigration and that's a complex conversation and I know your audience probably leans one direction pretty heavily But I would look at it and say okay a lot of people talk about mass deportation as an example of Mexican and South American immigrants But then you say well what about the fellow that serves your lunch when you go to this restaurant Or what about the the people that come and cut your grass or the- You start personalizing it And then you're like oh well I know so-and-so Yeah Right And then it becomes a lot harder to paint with such a broad brush I think that's true in the context of like republicans democrats liberals and conservatives too is like at some level if you just sit down with somebody who's like hardcore on the other side of you and you start talking about the things that they want out of life they want their kids to have better jobs than what they had right They want a house they want a car they want a safe community Like there are all these things that everybody wants like that everybody kind of views as like this is a measure of a good life And the real the real debate or the real sort of difference is how do we get there Yeah Um and like if you start from that vantage point where you don't assume that the other person is evil but they just have a different view on the way to get somewhere I think there's opportunity No I I agree and I talk about this a lot I'll come on here and I kind of paint with a broad brush but I do tell people "Look there's obviously you know nuance here." There's there's special exception I come in here and talk about democrats are evil but one of my best friends is a democrat You know Sure And Shawn and and and a buddy of mine Marvell I mean I could 2 off the top of my head 2 of my closest friends are are are democrats and think I'm wrong about a lot of stuff And that's fine Well you know we either talk about those things or we don't We talk about normal stuff Like we don't I don't ride in a car with my democrat friends and talk about politics the whole time you know We actually both like football Yeah Like there's real life stuff too that sometimes you kind of get lost in the arguing about policy and politics and culture war stuff that you forget that there's actually real life stuff that we enjoy as well And if you- Well I mean- find that common ground it makes life a lot easier A- and I don't mean to be overreligious on on your program but at some level it's like hey the Bible says that we were all created in the image of God That means democrats were created in the image of God too right The Bible says that we've all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God That means that republicans have sinned too right And so like at some level recognizing that if you have that sort of scriptural worldview it means no matter whether you disagree on a question of like immigration or whatever it is that like that other person was created in the image of God and like you they suffer with sin.Um and if you have that kind of humility going into it I think it's a lot easier to to relate to people Yeah you know I use this analogy a lot um Christians are very hardcore about the the they love to say "Gay being gay is against the Bible it's that's against the Lord's words." I'm like "Well so is having sex before you get married." Y- uh absolutely And it was like so I that's why I'm never like I don't get on the the the gay religious thing I don't that's that's their sin let them worry about that I have my own sin and I'd be a hypocrite if I sat there and talked about uh who they have sex with It's no different than who I have sex with when I'm doing it outside of marriage My sin is just as equal as as that Uh my only problem with the gay stuff is like it's the LGBTQ agenda as I you know as I refer to it as You know the the the pride parades with all the near pornographic stuff in front of children and d- drag queen story time No that's that's a whole separate thing from just your everyday run of the mill gay people And like I don't think they're separate Unfortunately they get all dropped under this big umbrella and if you have a problem with this well you must also have a problem with the 2 gay guys No I don't at all 'cause again their sin is no different than my sin Yeah I mean look I I would look at it and say at some level what happens is that the the natural human tendency is to focus on sins that you don't struggle with right So if you're heterosexual it's easy enough to talk about the sin of homosexuality because it's not something that you ever struggle with but if you wanna get uncomfortable you know talk about uh whether or not Russ is overweight right Yeah Because then that's the sin of gluttony Mm-hmm Um or the 400 pound Baptist pastor pastor who clearly is living an unrepentant life when it comes to their their dietary habits Um again the sin of gluttony and so like there's a very natural tendency to to isolate those sins that we don't personally struggle with and to ignore the things that we personally struggle with Heterosexual lust is a great example of that too Yeah And so I I don't think as as a Christian I don't think you should uh ignore what the Bible says is sinful behavior but I do think that you should operate in a way where you don't ignore your own sin um certainly 'cause that it it is hypocritical It it is and that is the one thing when you do this for 2 hours a day you will find yourself contradicting yourself a lot and and so I've learned to avoid contradicting myself I just try to be an open book and say "Look I'm k- a complicated individual as we all are There's gonna be things that I I find abhorrent but then there's gonna be things that I do that you find abhorrent." You know I try to find the common ground and just admit yes I we can all be a bit hypocritical at times But if there's some obvious stuff I try to just b- be like "Look that's" I I try I people think I'm very judgey I'm really not I gotta let let people live but the the Overton window has moved over so much that if you just wanna be left alone or just let people live that makes you far one way or the other now because the Overton window has moved so far I don't l- yeah there the problem is that there are not a ton of people who still believe in sort of what I would call American pluralism which I think is actually one of our founding values is that people get to believe different stuff All right we're coming back from break Chicken spaghetti on Mondays beef tip Tuesday pork chop Wednesday spaghetti Thursday and catfish Fridays And McBee's blue plate lunch comes with 2 classic southern sides and cornbread or a roll McBee's specials are served every weekday from 11:00 to 2:00 McBee's buzzing the Rez since 1982 Welcome to the Clay Edwards Show More adrenaline You know it's a pretty interesting time to to be alive What's the saying M- may the times you live in be interesting We've accomplished that more test top throne for your morning drive When you know you've got a problem how about tell people and be honest What's going on Going to war on cancel culture and bringing the spotlight on issues and topics from around the city of Jackson I feel like Jackson is slapping and no one else wants to talk about it The whole system is corrupt and evil It's unreal And they don't care and and everybody knows it It's just sad And fights for the soul of America I'm gonna need y'all to explain to me what a positive solution is 'cause you positive solutions only people have been in charge for a while now and I'm too many positive solutions You never Strap in Turn up the volume and get ready Jackson for unfiltered no sugar added talk radio It's award-winning podcaster Clay Boom shakalaka boom It's hour 2 of the most incendiary show on the R-A-D-I-O This is the Clay at Birth show here live on 103.9 FM W-Y-A-B We are streaming in stunning HD worldwide @SaveJXN on Facebook YouTube and X and we're on Rumble at SaveJXN If you're watching on any of those platforms hit the Like button hit the Share button if you're on Facebook If you're watching on YouTube drop a comment hit the Like It truly truly does help us with the algorithm If you like it they assume more people who watch the things that you like will like it too and they'll recommend these videos to people on YouTube which helps us grow And it doesn't cost you a penny to hit the Like button So please please please smash the Like button as the YouTubers- Like and subscribe Like and subscribe Like and subscribe Like and subscribe And uh we did We we gained over 500 subscribers on YouTube last month which I know in the big picture that may not sound like a lot but that's 500 new people that subscribed to a little old show out of Jackson Mississippi We're almost at 10,000 YouTube subs here 5 years into this and it is a it's taken a while There's not been no big one viral moment that's got us anywhere It's been just chipping away and chipping away and chipping away And I do think we'll eventually get that We'll we'll have that moment when we get you know X amount of followers and enough people see something that resonates with them But uh guys please uh do hit that Like button This segment is going to be brought to you by our friends over at You know I've been talking about it all week I want to drive it home It starts today round one the PGA Champion- Not the PGA Championship the Sanderson Farms Championship which is the only PGA event in Mississippi But not only is it the only PGA event it's the only major sporting professional sporting event in the state of Mississippi I know we can argue that college football is now a pro sport but And it always has been It has been for quite some time Yeah it always has been But uh it's the only legitimate pro-sport uh event in the state of Mississippi and it's right here in Jackson For all the negative things about Jackson this is one of the shining uh house on the hill you know beautiful moments that we have here in this city It's something we really should all wrap our arms around and get out and support if you want to keep it whether it's Jackson central Mississippi whatever there at the Country Club of Jackson And uh the first round starts today I'm going to be out there Saturday My buddy Fred Shanks my buddy Sutton my buddy Michael we're all going We got some Michelob Ultra Pavilion passes which you can get those as well at PGA I'm sorry at sandersonfarmschampionship.com And you can buy tickets You can buy the uh the Mick Ultra Pavilion It's kind of like their VIP thing There's going to be a bunch of TVs there You can miss You can catch all the college football action the golf action It's a great socializing event Just gonna be a grand time The weather's gonna be beautiful Come join us If you can't do Saturday get you some tickets for Sunday I think you just buy the ticket and go whatever day you want They're just Whatever ticket's good for any day but it's only one You You got to If you're going 2 days you got to buy 2 tickets So just FYI It's not a weekend pass Uh I do believe they do offer those But uh it's not too expensive Uh but you know it is a nice event and it does it does cost a few bucks But I think if you buy a ticket and a VIP pavilion pass it's about 130 bucks for both Which if you bought a concert ticket lately and you try to do a VIP upgrade you're probably talking about at least 500 bucks So for the money it's a really really good deal And uh parking's off site there at North Park You park there They they they bring a shuttle bus back and forth They'll keep them running all day You're not going to have to wait long to get to or from your vehicle The weather's going to be beautiful Come out there Hang out with me Come say hey And uh Saturday wear your favorite college colors It's University Day So going to be fun Russ you going to get by Uh we're going to an event tonight uh tied to it Um kind of their opening event and uh- A sponsorship party Yeah So we'll we'll do a little bit of that tonight and we'll see I I might Uh it's a good event And they- I'm trying to angle some tickets for the sponsorship party I I've been I've been working some angles that have not worked out so far But I would love to go to the sponsorship party Well we we can talk about it off air maybe Maybe so All right Well uh look so we got Russ Latino here Magnolia Tribune one of my favorite journalists in the state if not my personal favorite And Magnolia Tribune does just phenomenal work And Russ grabbed a hold of something like a dog on a bone the other day And I'm really glad he did because he brings a level of credibility and a level of scrutiny to to this topic that I think needs to be And he shines a light on it uh as one of the most influential journalists and policymakers in the state And it's the In the wake of Charlie death Charlie Kirk's death and that's why I wanted to really get Russ's opinion on that and kind of his thoughts on the whole thing before we dove into this These TPUSA chapters which is Turning Point USA for those that don't know Charlie Kirk's foundation that he founded And they Man they The growth has been stupendous since his death Thousands and thousands of new charters popping up And in these high schools where we really need to be trying to win the culture war uh just like colleges man We if we can get ahold of them at high schools they go to colleges you know kind of ready to fight the fight or knowing how to fight it And Clinton for some reason has decided that uh it's a no-go there So I've kind of laid the groundwork for you here man Tell us kind of what happened So let let me start by saying that um obviously what happened to Charlie Kirk was a tragedy a horrible tragedy I didn't always agree with him Um and I didn't always agree with TPUSA I did agree fundamentally with the idea that we should be having open debate on these issues um and that open debate is good And so-What happened was after his death to your point thousands and thousands of new chapters high school and college of TPUSA um started to form Um a couple of Saturdays ago so uh 2plus Saturdays ago um a teacher at Clinton High School sent out an email to a handful of students um and that email essentially said "Hey I know you're interested in this sort of stuff because you've talked to me in the past about wanting to start some kinda club that focuses on patriotism and sort of the exchange of ideas and debate Um what do you think about potentially doing a TPUSA chapter?" That email said explicitly this would have to be student-led Um you would have to come up with the names of other students who are interested in spearheading the effort to start this thing And there was a plan of sorts put together Some of these kids started sharing it with their friends they came back with names of people who wanted to be involved And essentially they planned to get together the following Tuesday September 16th to have a planning meeting with the teacher Well our sources say that that email got around to a wide group of people Um and one of the- the sets of hands that it ended up in was a set of parents who were very much opposed to the idea of there being a TPUSA chapter on Clinton's campus Um and that was communicated to school officials So what happens then is that on Monday September 15th the teacher that afternoon sends out an email to these students who are ready to meet the next day just saying "There will be no meeting tomorrow." Um the following day one of the students follows up and says "Well when are we gonna reschedule it?" 'Cause they're excited about doing this Um and she emails back and says "There won't be a rescheduling you need to go talk to the principal about this." Well the backstory of those few days and the way that we got ahold of this was that we got contacted by 2 sources that said "Hey look some students wanted to start this TPUSA chapter and they got shut down by the school administration." Um and we were told that there were 3 reasons given by the administration The first was that this was too political and "We don't do political clubs it's gonna be divisive." Um the second explanation which came later was "Well this was teacher-led and because it's teacher-led it violates a district policy." And then once students voiced "Hey no actually we want this," the third explanation that was given was "Hey it's too late in the year to start a new club." And so all of this unfolds- We're a month into school we're a month into school So all of this unfolds and you start to see And the only way we know this is 'cause we did public record requests on Clinton High School Um you start to see emails directly from students to the principal of Clinton High School Dr Brian Fordinberry saying "We want this." To the point that some of them are literally pressing him and saying "Tell me why we can't have this In writing please tell me why we are unable to have a Turning Point USA club." Um we get ahold of the story break it on uh social media And the response that we got from folks who live in Clinton was "Hey we called and talked to the principal and he said the reason they can't have it is 'cause they started it too late in the year." Well that night I start doing some research All right let's figure out is that true Is there a policy in place for this Read the entire Clinton Han- School handbook Nothing in there about when clubs can start Um read the entirety of the school district's policies Couldn't find anything So I wrote the principal and the- the school board attorney and just said "Hey look I've looked at all this stuff I can't find any policies that- that says that this can't be done this time of year." Um and we had posed a bunch of different questions public record requests whatnot Well they come back um the following day and release a statement that basically says "We didn't actually shut it down We just told them that it couldn't be teacher-led and that it couldn't be this year." Which is shutting it down Yeah Um and so anyway we- we've been able to get together all these public records It really looks from my vantage point like the 2 reasons they gave are pretense first of all students individually went to the principal and said "We want this club." ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... all of the documents ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... since 2019 The Tigers are playing well against Alabama this season but they aren't winning their first game of the season The Tigers were able to win their first game against ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... Alabama on September 19th 2020 They had a 31-0 victory at home against Alabama The Tigers won their first game of the season against Alabama on September 19th 2020 The Tigers have been playing well since then but they haven't been able to win their first game of the season The Tigers were able to win their first game against Alabama on September 19th 2020 They had a 31-0 victory at home against Alabama The Tigers have been playing well since then but they haven't been able the season The Tigers were able to win their first game against Alabama on September 19th 2020 They So they make good homemade ranch at Burgers Blues Barbecue is my point Get by check them out today Madison by the way the Madison location is open right now serving breakfast Dogwood in Flowood or downtown Brandon BurgersBlues.com to book a food truck check out the catering menu or to order and have your food delivered You can do it all in one great location BurgersBlues.com Website looks phenomenal too by the way Pictures of almost every item if you wanna know what it looks like That goes a long way Yeah You know Yeah no it does Um good websites good pictures all that stuff uh is how you market stuff right Gets people salivating We eat with our eyes Uh uh yep I think that's true Our eyes and our nose Yeah Right And my my eyes are often bigger than my appetite- Well as they say Yeah no I think that's part of the problem right Yeah absolutely So Russ wha- uh your your opinion do you just think this is political with TPUSA So let me say this for uh uh to start is I think whenever Clinton put out its statement in response to our original reporting they basically said it's incorrect that we tried to shut it down but then they explained why they had shut it down so it was an odd statement The other thing that I saw that bothered me almost more than the statement was the way that the media reacted which was just to just accept at face value with no critical thinking the explanation that was given Right So they're saying "Hey the reason we didn't do this is because it was teacher-led," while simultaneously admitting in the same statement that students independently came to us and asked for Right Mm-hmm Um so one that doesn't hold water And then they said "Yeah but we explained to those students that our 'practice' was to a- approve things this year and then h- allow them to go into effect next year." I asked the question point blank "Well what does that mean that next year there'll be a Turning Point USA chapter?" And they didn't answer that question But more importantly that policy does not exist in writing Right It doesn't exist anywhere um based on our investigation And so neither one of those things hold water And if neither one of those things hold water there must be something else And our sources said that the something else was the fact that you had parents that were angry about the idea of it coming on campus and a principal who just said "Hey this is gonna be too political which is unconstitutional." So w- what I would say Russ's opinion reading between the lines looking at all the facts I know the sources that we've talked to I think the principal panicked um and was trying to find a way to keep the peace which I can respect at some level which is "Hey we don't wanna rock the boat here We don't wanna create tension We want a unified campus This is gonna create some tension so I'm gonna find a way to say no." The problem with that is yes it violates the Constitution yes it violates federal laws yes it violates state law but there's a bigger sort of fundamental problem which is the way to deal with the fact that we can't have constructive debate in this country is not to have no debate at all It's to get better at having constructive debate Yes And that starts at an early age And so if we can create a system where yes there can be a Turning Point USA chapter and simultaneously yes there can be some sort of progressive chapter on campus and students get to decide who they wanna associate with and we create an atmosphere where hopefully those groups are talking to each other engaging with each other civilly we're setting ourselves up for much better conversations in the future than what we're seeing in our country amongst adults right now And so to me instead of saying "I don't wanna rock the boat," the answer should be "How do we create an environment where people get to associate with who they want they get to say what they want and we encourage students to do so in a way that is civil?" Uh I would love to see a list of the current of the current groups on the campus And w- we've asked for that right Um I I know that there are uh at least social organizations on campus that like you know some conservatives would find uh objectionable Um you know there's a gay straight alliance club as an example I I was gonna say like it would bet but bet the farm that there's an LGBTQ alliance of some sort on there uh there's gonna be some type of civil social justice Black pro-Black group and all those are fine as long as you have the ying to the yang And and and I would say great I would say great right Yeah Um it's it what you don't wanna do is a situation where you're having viewpoint discrimination And even like the other 2 uh you know arguments which is like "Hey this is teacher-led." Well 1 I don't think that's true based on the documents that we've gotten and I don't think it's true based on their own statement at some level But the Constitution doesn't say you can't be inspired by an adult if you wanna create a club on campus right Yeah Um people can get ideas from other people And and candidly every club on campus is required to have a sponsor So one man's sponsor is another person's teacher-led group right Yeah Um and then on this this timing thing is even if that policy did exist you would have to show that it had been consistently applied and it would still have to be tailored in a way legally that it didn't deprive people of their rights So you could say like a senior uh is on campus and they're saying "Hey you're making me wait until next year I won't be here next year I'm gonna graduate." Uh that was gonna be what I was gonna say We got a great comment here on X from uh Bourbon Diplomacy which may be the best name on X by the way That's a great name It says uh "Clinton School District attends school almost year round now so when is the correct time?" Yeah I mean again what they put out through surrogates after we did our initial reporting was "Hey we've got this policy and they're in violation," but can't even point to to something in writing I mean Yeah It it seems pretextual when you can't show something in writing And when you ignore a a public record request that explicitly asked for who are the other clubs When were they formed When were they allowed to be on campus They should be able to tell us all of that unless they're just not keeping records of what clubs are on campus which would suggest that they don't actually have a policy Right So what is the next step Is uh is Magnolia Tribune uh to the point of a lawsuit Well we wouldn't be the ones to file a lawsuit right A lawsuit would have to be filed uh either by some of the students who want the club which would be the the most likely scenario if they wanted to push that far or uh you know if there were adults on campus faculty that that thought that their rights had been infringed upon at some level Um my suspicion is that neither one of those things will happen because people don't like the idea of suing their own school Um it takes a rare person Like you'll occasionally see lawsuits percolate That's like one out of a thousand people has the courage to say "Hey I'm gonna do something like this." Is is Clinton in ISD or is it part of Hinds County I should know that I don't off the top of my head Uh- Yeah yeah no I do know that 'cause they they've got their own superintendent Yeah yeah it's independent Okay I I wasn't sure I I knew I know Pearl is and I and I grew up going to Byron which is part of uh Hinds County so I just wasn't sure if Clinton was part of that or not Never actually Yeah Never needed to know that So I mean a lawsuit is poten- is possible I I don't necessarily see that You know I I think the the most likely scenario if if the high school does the right thing they're not gonna come out and admit that they violated the Constitution No government official's ever gonna be like "Hey I violated the Constitution federal law and state law." What you hear instead is the kinda stuff that you heard here which is "Oh we wanted to help you but you didn't follow this unwritten process that we expected you to follow." So they're not gonna do that But if I were the district if I was on that board of of the school uh or if I was the principal I'd be trying to figure out a way to get it started Yeah there's gotta be a way to put the paste back in the tube a little bit here before it spirals outta control I mean you're sitting here like- Well it got it got mentioned on CNN That's where I was going yeah Um so so you know Abby Phillips' program Newsline on CNN it got mentioned there Uh I expect that there will be other national outlets that will be covering this Um there's an opportunity for Clinton to do the right thing and recognize that kids deserve the right to have this kinda club on campus if they want it Um for Magnolia Tribune's part we're not giving up right We still have several public record requests that we don't feel like have been answered uh and that weren

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Bang bang. Oh, I think the back's a lot cooler in the front and the front's pretty cool. I like the front more I'm not even joking. She's just Contradict Well, you know, I see the world very differently because I'm an impressive thinker you are like I like this arm That's me. I don't think I can possibly rank these cups in any sort of universal way though. No, no I think based on the garment that makes sense the garmento then we're if it's like a really high quality one But it has a little hole but I'm gonna fix it with I'm gonna sew it and then better make it double It's what do they call it distressed this is a distressed garment hand-stitched hand-stitched Let's see, what's it called when it's from like a did you ever make a Build-A-Bear? Yeah, you know how you like get to put a little heart in them. Oh, yeah, that's kind of like, um if you were to If you were to stitch one of them you put like a little something in there Imagine if you had your hand in your pocket and you could feel like a little heart Hands down the worst one of these pants that actually made oh my god. I love those. I'm just kidding. Yeah, these are mid Yeah, let's not look like someone had a little period mistake Poppin they turned out sick. Yeah, that's turned out great. Did you is this the same one that you were wearing the Pop one or we oh, no, we're getting to a nevermind. Nevermind. Look at this. I answered my own question Like so these those are cool. These three pants. These two pants are all those. Those are all really good So like two out of three. Yeah, really. I mean and Someone will love the third look at that for like like I kind of crushed most let me see that one I Ain't nothing special Yeah, but like it's cute. It's fun. It's funny. I was actually wearing I'm like I feel like if it had like the spongebob flowers on it, it'd really bring it all together. Yeah, and yeah, it's I'm kind of using Just whatever whatever called stamps stamps. No, but uh Shroom prints the other one iron on patches. Oh as a way of Just covering that and also being like special. Yeah special like you Just you know, it's average but someone put a bow on it It's never fun when people like we're both we're both special. Yeah So it was Kenzie and are breaking our boundaries I'm just developing a method of like okay. How are you talking to show with your partner where it's like We need to develop the fully built characters of like, okay Yeah, we have a few ideas ideas cooking. Yeah, you take you take the lead because I'm like physically. I'm I'm popping it I'm giving it. Yeah, you are popping it. I'm I'm eating candy. Um Well, there's there's talks of maybe a documentary there's talks of maybe some Sketches skits. I don't know which comedy comedy. This comedy both the shorts turned out horribly Like not even really worth showing. I mean show Pop it and this third pair of shorts off it for me BAM BAM BAM I call it that side that side that side. Yeah, the funny if this is okay. I just didn't really have any blue shorts Me up. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and then I just blew you I don't really mind those Yeah, they're just mid they just need like I mean they're they're like basic bitch. Yeah, but like then they can let the top shine, you know That's a good point. I know like having the bomb. Oh, look at the back though. I like that that corner Yeah, this kind of matches a lot of the ones I was making later, which guys does either reinforce that like the temperature has a roll Or oh, so yeah, this beauty's nice this beauty is a beauty Yeah, so this is the vision pants No sneak peeks at what's next That's cool. Mm-hmm. That's cool over there. These pants rock. Yeah, we did a great job Whispers yeah bulbs and whispers. I know like a Framing or like a Like a way of talking like that almost looks 3d in a way. Mm-hmm coming over the way of like describing different places Kind of like clouds. Yeah, they have like six straddle cumulus. No, yeah Because like this one has a whole system has similar bulbs. Mm-hmm Is this just kind of the same as this just bulbs and splashes? No Yes, this has so much more personality. This looks so good on Though like that's where these pants like they look really cool as is. Yeah, but they look exquisite on Exquisite I can't wear cheap pants through the whole show. Mm-hmm Tiger doesn't like to be like, oh I'm getting a show from here Everyone can totally see him now. Oh, I like it with this shirt. Yes. Yeah Yeah, what can I say? Slay? I'm an intense. What else could you say gang gang? I mean gang gang Those ones looks really cool on as well. Yes, these ones will let the the tops pop top pop I mean, yeah, cuz a lot of I mean this top pops top pop Definitely. Yeah. No, it does and like that's what you want from your top. Yeah, it's to pop. Yeah, really anything you want it to pop But you don't want top and top and bottom can pop like this is a top that pops. It is a top that pops That's a cool top. The whole thing is like this is just a statement piece of this anyone looks so good They look so good on the bleach. Yeah, I like sometimes that they can't really see him. Mm-hmm There's a subtle like see ya. I can't even see ya Yeah, but then it's like if you got retroflectively splash Did you catch that you catch that leak leak leak reference? So, yeah The inside this has like some right here Mm-hmm. And so if I press right there, this doesn't have like it's like it seems like this would have been thin enough that My guess would be that the front and back would have been like much closer match. It's like that's really cool The specific thing that you just showed me Because it looked like something Nope, it's not what I thought. I thought it looked like maybe like a skeleton dancing, but it did not Oh nice back Cohesive, yeah, very cool. Very nebulous. The whole thing is I'm gonna register like when I was making this because you're filming We're talking. I have no idea how I tie this together Yeah, I'm just actually kind of standing In memoriam to story. Oh, I guess that means he's dead. That's not what I meant Thank you very much. I made the punch of myself didn't God, I mean, it's sick. I know it's really hard because I did I did get a lot of these easy gap ones to sell But now I'm like, whoa now that I got official easy Easy gap ones because I'm like a lot of minor just samples Scamples, so it's fun to have a couple there. I like the way they do this if you feel it It doesn't feel you felt it. No, but I can see oh, yeah. Yeah, it's like that's what it's that's what it should be That's what you need. I Need a easy a easy quality tag. Yeah. Yeah I believe in you. I think you can do it. I think a screen printing is the way. Yeah, I do too My black velour. I did put double X on triple X off God like that is just really divine divine. Yeah, I like that. I've got some really good phrasing for D Vine So if there's one This one's okay. I think it's kind of neat and special Yeah, nothing really special, but they're pretty cool here, but that's pretty cool. Like it looks almost like a solar flare Yes Interesting one right here. That one's kind of neat Yeah, and say I'm like if I didn't have any of these beaches and I just saw this I'd be that'd be I'd be so Stoked isn't it if this is like how one of my places turned out. I'd be like, holy shit. I'm doing this full-time I'm gonna be a millionaire. Oh my god. I'm gonna be a thousand or Yeah No, um, I mean this is this is kind of like the they play bagpipes like this is like The end of a bleach session for me. Oh like a funeral. Yeah. Yeah kind of it's more of like A celebration. It's like more of a new chapter really. Yeah selling Okay, got a little cocky and thought you could see how you could scale. Can you sell I don't want to sell I don't want to scale either though. You got to go out and work. I'm curious. So this is a really I Like this a lot more than the ones that were like I removed all of the red and is all pink. Really? Yeah, but this is just you know, it's a little underwhelming But like one or two screen prints. Oh, yeah, I know divine But I kind of like it kind of being simple. Mm-hmm. Jimple. I think I think one or two screen prints It's hard to beat that I mean like but like how much so how much more would it could it probably go for with a screen print? I don't know. This is about money for you. Yeah, it's what it's ever been about man I'm just trying to find the quickest way to make a buck. Totally. That's apparent The quicker I can get there Regardless of who I fucking hurt That's nice I Like this line, yeah, I've started just like folding clothes like like this Like I make these like folds this this sleeve. This is money. I Love the dark I like this one more. That's wild. Oh my god. I think I could do poles on these I think I'm curious house completely split. You should do poles. I mean that would be good. Yeah I was like, which ones you like more watch it be like Completely split completely split. Okay, just to get this side. You're trying to split the vote. I am Trying to do some splits and vote I'd love to see you do the splits I think you could you know Dexterity, you really put your mind to it And you're ass into it My mind it's about like my hamstrings are tight. No, it's your mind. It's your mind That's me. It's literally just your mind. You're gonna wrap your head around your feet to walk on the call like Well, I mean like, you know, oh like over time. Yeah, okay, obviously. Yeah, I'm not like you're down in the juice No, no that's my legs No, that's definitely in your legs. Would you describe this? This is basic basic trash. I mean trash it yeah Straight garb like some poor sucker will get it. Okay, I kind of like that looks like a little heart though Cute I do I do like hearts and that's kind of neat. I like the lines Mm-hmm. I started going way more line centric Yeah, like those like those really kind of solid lines like Cunning and create perfect like like symmetry which is like that's what makes the hearts. I like I like symmetry Feels right does feels good in my brain Yeah, like this one's chaos, but I'm like, I like there's still symmetry. Yeah, this one's really cool money That's a good shirt, too, I was one of my favorites, yeah Boom symmetry Yeah, this one's cool. Oh Backs a freak though. That's a cool Oh the backs a freak. Oh Looking looking That's a neat little shirt, I'm curious to see what it looks like on Fashion show fashion show fashion show at work Mm-hmm We'll treat for the audience. Oh my god, I mean it was a little cotton candy for me Google just bands make Cute It kind of reminds me of like Like someone in high school who listens to like angsty yes angsty as angsty of music as possible. Yeah, unfortunately Cute I like yeah this one I like I like Because those whites just pop out so much more just pop. Where's like this is the whites don't pop Oh, this is cute though. He's a cutie. He's a cutie. Oh, look at this This is a girl shirt this one's for the girls Yeah, it's pretty cool. It's kind of big Yeah, but it would be like an oversized. Yeah These make the best this one easy shirt that you have the it's the same cut it needs screen prints though for it to be maximum Amazing like new screen prints. I don't have yet. Yeah, I already have new screen It needs stars It needs girl shit I do like that Kind of not like I don't like his little eyes. I don't like that. I Hate that shirt. No, it's so funny That's what's dead to me You watched Wednesday. It's like you kind of like some level of that like ghoulish which I wanted to like it Yeah, I know I know I Art stylish, but you just didn't like the I didn't like I didn't like any of it. It was fucking It was horrible. It was a horrible show that everyone was like jerking off so hard And so I was like, maybe I just don't see it. Maybe it comes together and it didn't it fucking sucks Yeah, it was it was really bad. There's a couple shows in a row that you kind of like I was on a bad streak. I was in a bad place Bad place. I just like I Like the edges It's got its edges back framed. It's like a little frame. Yeah. Yeah, exactly Just look like you're out like yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah, that was cool Well, why did this like bleach so much more? See this is all these were both gray Cut to you I've done the testing John all the testing I know exactly what I'm doing This one almost looks like okay Like someone's sitting cross-legged and then there's like fire Yeah, it's like his head's like right there yes, yeah, it's down to heat right there I'm seeing it upside down. So who knows? Can you see the face when I flip it? Stupid pimple No That is just a reflection of myself. I am the stupid. So yeah, where's the face? Well, now I see it differently. Oh, I totally see it right there right and then oh my god There's a deer head right there. Oh, there is that one. I totally saw. Oh My god, are you kidding? And then it has like two butterflies. I love it. Yeah actual George This is a Russia. This one's Russia White Russia. Oh It's okay. It would pass. It's okay. The back is not so bad that it ruins the front, correct I look like someone spilled a little drink on it or something And this interesting part is like sometimes if the bleach just barely hits a place It still doesn't it has the undercut like the color under it and it just looks like dirty Hmm, but it's not and that's what that's why I used to think that if I'd set the bleachers on opposite colors That it would stain through. Hmm when really it was just happened to be Because it was so odd. I'm like, why does this happen randomly? No Where do that term come from making headway Yeah, right This one's cool Yeah, this one's great. Yeah, this one's really cool and it kind of different way than any of my other ones have been. Mm-hmm Yeah, that one's neat Great back. Neat. Neat. Neat got a nice back to run Got a good backside This one is a little spooky vibes that's pretty like interesting like the popping Since I was going through photos, I'm trying to get those organized I saw the photo that you took for when we were watching the solar eclipse. Mm-hmm like way back, you know Mm-hmm, and it's interesting because your camera caught Like this little glimpse of light and it looks like an upside-down cross above my head. Yeah I remember that I kind of like it Kind of neat Christian Australian Christians, no this one I've reached a ton of I've made this one so cute. Look at the little stars If you look at all these pretty much all of these ones are like this same is they're so there's like army green Really? Yeah, and was army green this color? Yeah Weird. Yeah, but they all bleached into like three or four different colors really cool That's great. I wonder if they ever bleach it one color and they're like, yeah, and so then they died a darker color Yeah, I'd be curious to you. I know like maybe this was just leftover dye was my But they I mean it's high quality like I mean just the feeling of it. Yeah, it's a nice shirt soft I like to be nude for the least amount of shows possible, you know, I Try I don't I try and fail. Oh cute. I like the shoulders I really like the sides. Mm-hmm. I'm all for the side and then boom just a big This one has very much galaxy like and look you have you have little stars on your shoulders. So cute. Yeah, that's pretty cool I love me a good star. Yeah, I like a strong shoulder. I Didn't love this one first This looks like a tie-dye Sure busting out into tears way to deflate me tie-dye cross Another cutie for Kenzie cuties These keys have sold out tigers coliseum cotton of cotton has not sold a single piece. He seemed very Argumentative during the arbitration process every piece randomly go triples in price Kenzie on the other hand, she could not get rid of them fast enough. Yeah, do you want to see it? Yeah I'm gonna try it on that's high fidelity. I'm gonna give it a try. Yeah So you can get some data Kind of some shoulder. I love all of it actually. Yeah, it's really cool Honestly, I feel like it's such a specialty thing cuz it's like Small. Mm-hmm. You have you have one you're like the opposite of Deep up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they're all real sizes for real big People we're like tiny chicks tiny chicks with big tits Do they don't even their bras are like painting. Oh, really? I don't know tiny chicks with times Really women to be small small this one's like this is you of oh like Colors kind of there's no yellow in this. This is green and orange. That's yellow That's yellow Yeah, it could be more yellow. I stopped it at orange because I like orange more. I didn't stop it. I know I I did this I Immaculately picked the perfect time to flip. I said, hey, this is perfect freeze Yeah Hmm a little bit of a long time. I really like this V.A.I. about the road. Yeah. I love this little round thing. I'm gonna be in there and it's happy. It's having me., so a big picture. a big picture. a big picture. a big picture. a big picture. a big picture. I don't see this one make pahops though. I don't see this one make pahops though. I don't see this one make pahops though. I don't see this one make pahops though. Kind of like the um Kind of like the um I think you look good. I think you look good. I think you look good. Yeah, yeah. I think you look good. Yeah, yeah. You don't want to be on camera. That's okay. I mean you don't want to be. You don't want to be. You don't want to be. You put this one over it. I don't do green and orange. You don't do green and orange. I like green and orange a lot more than like You don't do green and orange. I like green and orange a lot more than like You don't do green and orange. I like green and orange a lot more than like Trash. I love this. Feel how soft it is. Dummy. Dummy soft. You know it's dummy soft. It is dummy soft. Thank you. It'd be a good pillowcase. Or like, you know what's the thing you put in a Trash can where the garbage goes? I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. This is why. Bandwagon jumper This is why. Bandwagon jumper Kenzie, you're mean. You just pick and pick and pick. The podcast is the only time I get Meenataker. Yeah. The rest of the time I'm like why ya ya? Except they do it. That one's Sick. Nice one. Try it. Flip it off, bitch. Flip it on, flip it on. Flip it on, flip it on. Hmm. Hmm. Which is a lot more messy in person. Like on a person. Really, really go like this To it. It's just very Off the lopsided. It's kind of just big. It's a double XL. I like it though. It covers my butt. Okay, now it looks pretty cool. Like that arm looks cool. To quote you. Right above your left hip looks great. Yeah. Stage left. Stage left. I feel like the shoulders are really like Like, yeah, they have very pointy shoulders. Yeah. This is one of the green Ones. This is black. It's funny. It has more of a green hue than the other green shirt did. Within that triangle? No. Oh, you mean other than the army green. Yeah. Yeah, the army greens are pretty much brown. You can see them right The bottom, the bottoms Of that messy, of that big star. Down, yep, those. Yeah. So those, those all turn into those. This one's great, but I don't It's not perfect for me because of the feel. It's a little, I kind of like some rougher. I feel like that would really soften up. Probably would. Honestly, so I liked it When it was flat. But this has really Surprised me. It's interesting this. It kind of looks like I like No, it's funny. It kind of looks like it's like going up that way though. I just want to see if like Does this look the same on me as it does on you? It's going to look way better on you. It really does look different on different people. Yeah. This one's great. Grip. Personal. Jersonal. That's my Jersonal file. I don't think I, I think Bang. Um, I think It looks pretty cool on you actually. Oh yeah, well it's crazy. Like, that's weird. Yeah. Not many of them do that. Yeah. So yeah, it doesn't mean to be like Like the shoulder's weird. I think it's meant for a really wide guy. Wide guy. Wide guy. Well that's you. You're a big guy. I'm a big man. This one, this one turned out great Just because of right here. This saved it. That's pretty cool. Yeah, put the vultures on. Put it on. She puts on. I just, I don't love the neck holes of them. My neck hole. My neck hole. I kinda like it. I like the feel of the sleeves. This is a nice shirt. It's a good shirt. I like the feel. Yeah. The real feel. The real feel. She's a balancing goddess. I'm trying to be wide. You are wide. I'm like a fucking line batter. You're not too wide though. That's this one. This one. Boom. Nice. And like boom. Just with that, we're pretty much done. I like when you put them away like a forklift. Me too, but these ones each gotta go to a very specific spot. This one's going up behind you. Oh. Beep beep. That's the rest of the show for like the next 20 minutes. Tiger and Kenzie pretending to be forklifts. Completely sober. Just forklifting. Forklifting. Just forking. Trying to make a living. Forklifting. This is gonna go in the cell pile. This guy. Is this the cell pile? Yeah, I saw it. If you know. If it all falls down. And it all falls down. She's looking a little wob. That's what it does. Wobbed? You have to beat the wob. Wob. Wob. Wob. It's the wob. Wob. Wob. That's a easy shirt, but I think I'll sell it. Bye. This is a easy shirt, but I think I'll sell it. Bye. This is the double layer Kenzie. I think I'll sell it. To the pile. Sergeant Pile. Is this the cell? Yeah, every single thing over there. Oh, really now? You can even put it on that really cool ass red shirt. Or hoodie. Getting a little tired here? Yeah, I'm sorry. Oh, this is the shirt that has the double. It's just a lumper. It's not a lover. It's a lumper. And then that you can park right back up there. I'm not sleepy, you're sleepy. I've always wanted to be a boss, you're sleepy. Looks like an eyeball. On the desk. I've never noticed it. You see how there's three holes? The majority of the time it's been covered up. I know how to do damage control. Wow, the back of this one looks great. That's who I talked to? He looks perfect. I do it with the back out, but it's okay. Again. Kenzie does it perfectly. Kenzie forgets the back and the front thing though. I'm so used to doing the front forward. I like hiding it. Because the back usually looks about the same. This is crazy looking. I think I do the front because I had graphic tees for a long time. And that's how I would distinguish. What shirt is this? Oh shit. Who is this, I say. I do have relationships with men. Is it my golden boy? No. Who is your golden boy? That's a good question. See, doesn't that look blue? Something could have been staining it. Who stained it? Not one of us. Who is the damager? The damager. Who? I'm folding here. You cut the clear right away. Look at that. God, you're good at what you do. That looks really nice. I don't know why that's so fucking funny. Yeah, so that one and this one are my favorites. And the one I'm wearing is okay. How is it? Okay. I'm going to take this tangy shirt off. Do the rest of the shawl. In the braless. Oh my god, I'm so sleepy. I'm so sleepy! So sleepy that I ate like two bites of that cotton candy. I'm like, okay. Donezo. Bye. But I'm really happy I documented these because I've done so many. I mean, god damn it. The amount of fucking footage that I didn't want to just be like, okay, that last one, yeah, I just skimped out on it. Because I'm going to be like, prove that you made them, man. Because you probably didn't. Where's the street cred in that? Where's the street cred? You probably just bought them. Boney. Okay, so we're living out my nightmare right now. Everyone's like, you didn't. You just, I bet you took it from someone else. From a smaller, if you loved it. Smaller, if someone was tiny. I stole it from a bitchy. Nice shirt. Thanks. It's a cool sweater, sweater, sweater, sweater, sweater. I like the green. Green boy. Alright, thanks everyone for tuning in. I don't know what I'm going to do with three different camera angles of all this. Please, god help me. Bye. Bye. Bye. Last word, bye. Can't keep doing this to me. I'm gonna freak. I'm gonna go bananas. Hidden. Didn't know the show was kept going. He freaked out. Not very well. He doesn't really do it that much. He doesn't have a lot of practice. Doesn't really know how to. He kind of just goes. I'm not happy. Fixed it. And then he goes. I'm not bleaching another god damn shirt until I'm happy. But I'm not happy until I bleach another shirt. That is the problem with life. Yup, yup. Alright, let's go watch some tv and pass out. Alright, cool. You'll stop the camera. Don't bang that thing. Don't clap that thing. Oh, wait. I'll clap it. I'll clap it, baby.

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You can read more about Joey's story on our website.   "Although we're a group supporting families and patients, actually a big part of what we're doing is around translating those complicated genetics terms, and trying to explain them to families, so they can understand the testing they've been offered, the results of testing, and really what the benefits and limitations of testing are...just knowing why it's happened, being able to connect with others, being able to meet others, but actually often it doesn't necessarily change treatment."   You can read the transcript below or download it here: https://files.genomicsengland.co.uk/documents/Podcast-transcripts/Shining-a-light-on-rare-conditions.docx   Naimah: Welcome to the G Word. [Music] Sarah Crawford: But I would also say it's okay to grieve the child that you didn't have that you thought you were going to have. I just think that's so important. And I think for me, the most difficult thing in the early couple of years was feeling like I couldn't do that because nobody appreciated that I'd actually lost anything. [Music] Naimah: My name is Naimah Callachand and I'm head of product engagement and growth at Genomics England. On today's episode, I'm joined by Shaun Pye and Sarah Crawford, who are parents of Joey, who was diagnosed with DYRK1A syndrome at the age of 13, and Sarah Wynn, CEO of Unique, a charity which provides support, information and networking to families affected by rare chromosome and gene disorders. Today, Shaun and Sarah are going to share Joey's story, and discuss how their role in writing the BBC comedy drama There She Goes has helped to raise awareness of people with rare conditions in mainstream culture. If you enjoy today's episode, we'd love your support. Please like, share and rate us on wherever you listen to your podcasts. So first of all, Shaun and Sarah, I wonder if you could tell us a bit about Joey and what she's like. Shaun Pye: Yes. So, the medical stuff is that she's got DYRK1A syndrome, which was diagnosed a few years ago, which means that she's extremely learning disabled, nonverbal. Sarah Crawford: Yeah, autistic traits. Shaun Pye: Eating disorder, very challenging behaviour. She can be quite violent. She can be quite unpredictable. Doubly incontinent, let's throw that in. She's 17 but she obviously has a sort of childlike persona, I would say, you know. She sort of likes things that toddlers like, like toys and that sort of thing. But that's the medical thing. What's she like, she's a vast mixture of different things. She can be infuriating, she can be obsessive, but she can be adorable. Occasionally, she can be very loving, especially to her mum. Sarah Crawford: She's very strong willed, you know. Once she knows she wants something, it's impossible to shift her, isn't it? So, she's got a lot of self-determination [laughter]. Shaun Pye: So, her obsession at the minute, or it's fading slightly, which is quite funny, is that she's become obsessed by – there's a toy called a Whoozit that she loves, but she became obsessed by the idea of – she was typing buggy baby Whoozit into her iPad, so that's how she communicates. She's got quite good literacy skills. Sarah Crawford: Yeah. Shaun Pye: And we figured out eventually that what she wanted was she wanted her mum to take her to the park to find a buggy with a baby in it that also had a Whoozit in it that she could steal, and when Sarah explained to her at some length that it was not yours, she would say, “It's not yours,” that drove her insane with excitement, at the idea that she could steal another child's toy. So, it's a good example of her because it's funny, and, you know, it is funny, and she's so cheeky about it and she flaps her hands, she's very hand flappy, and she sort of giggles and she gets really excited, but, you know, the 2,000 time she asked to do that, and we have to walk to Mortlake Green near our house, and to the point where – again, it's funny when it happens, but you get to the green and she doesn't even look for the buggies anymore. So, that's an example. But she's a lot of different things, you know, and I suppose the thing that is dawning on us at the minute is that she's 17, she's going to be 18 very soon, and, you know, the list of presents that she gets on her birthday is always the same, ‘cos she's autistic. So, at Christmas, she always gets the same presents. But the idea that, for her 18th birthday, we're going to have to buy her children's toys and – you know – Sarah Crawford: Toddlers' toys. Shaun Pye: Toddlers' toys and everything, it's sort of hitting home, but that's something – a bridge we're going to cross on July 27th [laughter]. Naimah: Yeah, I can imagine that's quite a difficult bridge to cross, but it sounds like, you know, Joey's got lots of personality and you have lots of, you know, lovely times with her as well. I wanted to go back a bit before the diagnosis. So, you mentioned Joey's been diagnosed with DYRK1A syndrome, but can you tell me what it was like before you both – and a bit about your journey, and when you suspected maybe something might be wrong and what you did first of all. Sarah Crawford: I mean, there were hints that things might be wrong before she was born. The measurements were such that they thought there might be intrauterine growth restriction, because basically my belly wasn't as big as it should be for dates, and that was obviously the working hypothesis. And they actually did a scan, an ultrasound quite late on in the pregnancy, which I picked up when I looked at the report was showing a small head measurement. And I remember querying it with the consultant, who said it was probably measurement artefact and nothing to worry about. But after she was born, she wouldn't latch on, you know. We had to switch to bottle feeding straight away. She was small, and the head measurement actually was small. You know, you could see on the very early one, they must have taken it kind of three times to try and get it bigger, probably angling the tape measure, and it had been crossed out and rewritten. That was the pattern. So, her head simply did not grow in those early days in the way that you would expect. So, I was wildly anxious about this right from the get-go, and very adamant very early on that I thought that, you know, she was learning disabled. And to be fair, you know, the GP took that seriously. You know, at the six-week check-up, things weren't quite how they should be. We got in the system very early on, saw a paediatrician really quite early. So, I was, you know, fairly convinced very early. I mean, I'm a clinical psychologist, I've got training in learning disability, a bit more clued into these sorts of things I guess than the general public on the whole, and I think the bigger challenge for us wasn't so much the attitude of, you know, the healthcare system. It was more trying to debate this with family, who were very much of the, “There's nothing wrong with her,” kind of mantra. Shaun Pye: She wasn't our first child, so we had experience – and all children are different, but because we had that comparison – all children are different. Obviously, there's not a set thing. But we had a benchmark in our own minds and hearts sort of, to know that she was missing things that he'd hit, and something wasn't right. And the parental thing – basically, we're talking about grandparents – it was sort of – there were two approaches that they took, one of which was to tell us nothing was wrong, because they couldn't bear the idea that me and Sarah were in pain or unhappy. It was just out of pure love. It's just a natural human reaction to say, “I'm sure everything's going to be alright.” They were just trying to be supportive because that's, you know, what they thought they should say. And then the other approach from other members of the family was again from just a supportive, loving aspect, but it was a sort of, “They just need a bit of tough love, pull your socks up. Lots of children are different and you just need to learn ways of dealing with it.” And the way I describe it nowadays is that they'd mistaken Joey for someone on the far end of a spectrum of abilities or behaviours, whereas she wasn't really on that spectrum at all. She was on a different spectrum [laughter]. She wasn't a difficult child. She wasn't a naughty child, was she? Sarah Crawford: No, no, she was a child whose brain hadn't developed. Shaun Pye: She was a very, very different child. So, all of that has gone on over the years. And genetics wise, we had early genetics testing. Kingston Hospital took quite a lot of interest early on, and then they sort of didn't take any interest [laughter]. Sarah Crawford: No, it's more that they ran out of technology, so they couldn't pinpoint the diagnosis with the technology they had. I mean, the geneticist was excellent, wasn't he? We really loved him. Shaun Pye: Yeah, Sarah's going to like this, ‘cos I'm about to say I love geneticists ‘cos they're – on the spectrum of doctors, I love them, ‘cos one of the guys we saw just looked at it like a puzzle and he was sort of excited to solve it, and he really wanted to work out – and in a way, you could have walked away from that thinking, “We wanted the bedside manner and we wanted the, “Oh, that's terrible,”” whereas he really was just a sort of – he was terribly excited about the whole thing, and he wanted to solve a Sudoku, basically, yeah. But me and Sarah walked away from that just thrilled, ‘cos we're the same [laughter]. There's not a Sudoku or a crossword that we don't love finishing. So, we walked away thinking, “These are exactly the people we want involved.” And so when I say they gave up, that's not fair. They just ran out of – you know, they can't spend increasing amounts of NHS money. So, they tried – you know, different genes were mentioned. Sarah Crawford: Yeah, they tested for a whole load. I mean, his attitude was right from the get-go, you know, based on the history, everything else that had been ruled out, dysmorphic features, those kinds of things – I don't know if that's the terminology they would use now – but that this was going to be a chromosomal disorder, and that they would do the tests that were available, but that it was possible that those wouldn't pinpoint in, but that the technology was changing all the time, and that if they didn't find it now, they would in the future. And that was how it played out. Shaun Pye: There was one meeting that I did get a little bit – having said that, I got slightly – but you didn't – about one of the geneticists, who sat there and said, “We'll do this test and this test, and if they come back with any interesting things then we can get really excited.” And he used the word excited, and I was sort of a bit, “I'm not that excited by all of this.” But actually I calmed down quite quickly, and in hindsight I really wanted someone to get excited by the idea of working out – but then a long time went past. I wouldn't say that we lost interest in finding out what her genetic condition was, we didn't. It's just it's something that became less and less – it wasn't like a holy grail for us. But then the opportunity came along with 100,000 Genomes, and we signed up immediately, and then they did that and it was a few years before that went through the system. And then out of the blue really, we were asked to go and see a geneticist, and we had no idea that this is what it was. I honestly thought it was just a routine sort of, “We've got a few more theories,” or something, and she just said, “We've found out what it is.” And that moment is – well, we tried to describe it in the TV programme, but it's quite hard to describe what goes through your mind when, after 13 and a half years, somebody suddenly says, “Oh, by the way, that thing that happened with your daughter, we've worked out what it is.” [Music] Naimah: I wonder if you could talk a bit about what the diagnosis meant for you both. Shaun Pye: It was sort of different for both of us, wasn't it? I was a bit more excited, Sarah was a bit more… Sarah Crawford: My attitude early on was that, while the label would be nice to have, it wouldn't make any material difference to anything to do – I mean, it was never going to be precise enough that it would give a map out of what we'd expect for her as an individual, and it wasn't going to change the fact that there was a severe learning disability. It wasn't going to change the challenges that we would have over things like schooling, therapies, you know, what the future holds for her. It is useful to have it, but it doesn't really change the day to day. Shaun Pye: But what it did change, and this is where Unique is so brilliant and important, is that it puts you in touch with people who have children with a similar condition. That's the main takeaway from getting the diagnosis. ‘Cos Unique is great, and obviously in a broad sense it's great, but to actually meet people and be in touch with people whose children have DRYK1A – so, I've met quite a lot of them now and I've met quite a few of the children. There was a meetup last year, and you just walk in and you just go, “Oh my god, oh my god” [laughter]. Literally girls running around, just the same as Joey, just the same, and the different ages as well. So, there were some in their twenties and there were some just starting out on their – who'd only, you know, very young, been diagnosed. But just to see your life just in front of you [laughter] is very useful. So, that's the basic takeaway, I would say, from the diagnosis. Naimah: Yeah. It must have been really nice to be connected with those other parents and to kind of share experiences as well. Shaun Pye: It was, it was. And this applies to most – well, every family from Unique that I've ever encountered actually. Nearly all of the DYRK1A – ‘cos it's spread around the world as well, so, you know, there's slight cultural differences, but just to see that they are all of a very similar mindset is comforting, ‘cos it sort of makes you think, “Actually, we haven't been doing this wrong.” It's a sense of humour thing. It's an attitude to the world. It's the way they see their children. It's the way they see the outside world. I'm not saying we're all uniform, of course we're not, but you can see it. When you talk to them, you can just see that they have the same sensibilities as you about the whole thing, and it's sort of quite reassuring really that, you know, we're not outliers. Naimah: I just wanted to go back to, you know, when you were talking about the bit before the diagnosis, and I wanted to come to you, Sarah, to ask, you know, Shaun and Sarah both described their journey with a lot of uncertainty, but I wondered, could you tell me a bit more about the role Unique plays in this part of the journey for parents? Sarah Wynn: Yes. Well, actually I think Shaun's done such a good job of summing up why Unique exists already, thank you, Shaun. But I think really what we're aiming to do is to try to alleviate that sense of helplessness and being overwhelmed, and isolation that often families feel when they have a child that's got additional needs. I think our experience with our Unique community is very similar to that that Shaun and Sarah have described. So, many parents know that there is something – that their child isn't developing as they would expect. And we hear lots and lots of stories of families going to healthcare professionals and actually not being taken seriously, or like Shaun and Sarah were saying, you know, everybody saying, “No, they're just a bit delayed, it will all be fine.” And so I think that's a common experience of many families, that the parents inherently understand and know their child better than everyone else, and it's very common that families have to wait quite a long time to get to that point where they get to a diagnosis. And often I think the uncertainty continues after you get that diagnosis, because as Shaun and Sarah said, you get a diagnosis of a rare condition and actually there just isn't that much information available. So at Unique, we try to help in various ways. One is by connecting families with other families, and that might be other families who've got the same condition, but it might also be families who are just going through the same experiences as you are, so you've got someone to share your journey with. And the other thing we try to do is to help families understand the kinds of genetic testing they've been offered, and a bit about the results of genetic testing. Because of course genetics is something that lots of people haven't thought about since school, and actually quite often hoped they never had to think about again. Although we're a group supporting families and patients, actually a big part of what we're doing is around translating those complicated genetics terms, and trying to explain them to families, so they can understand the testing they've been offered, the results of testing, and really what the benefits and limitations of testing are. Sarah said, often you get a result and a diagnosis from genetic testing, but that doesn't give you a magic treatment that's going to cure your child. It's really important, for all the reasons Shaun and Sarah have already said, just knowing why it's happened, being able to connect with others, being able to meet others, but actually often it doesn't necessarily change treatment. Shaun Pye: I guess one thing I would say, just ‘cos it was important to us, and it's de novo in our case, but that's comforting to know. We always suspected it was and we were always told it was, but to have that confirmed means – I mean, we're not going to have anymore children, but it's more to do with our son and whether there's something inherent that could be passed on. Sarah Wynn: Yeah, it gives you information that you can use for either your own family planning or other family members. Naimah: You mentioned that Joey received her diagnosis via the 100,000 Genomes Project. How did that come about? Sarah Crawford: I think it was offered, as in the 100,000 Genomes Project was the only way that that was potentially available at the time, that this was effectively a project that was going on to try to answer those unanswerable questions with the technology they had at the time. I mean, it was years between us enrolling in it and getting the answer. Shaun Pye: It's so important to me in hindsight the diagnosis, just for all the reasons that we've been discussing, but without doing down the role of genetics, there was a period of Joey's life when we thought we'd run out of road with the testing, and it wasn't something that really I was obsessed with or occupied my mind massively. It wasn't like me and Sarah were saying, “We must get back to Kingston Hospital. We must get back to the geneticists. We must write to the NHS. We must insist that they do this.” We'd sort of resigned ourselves to the fact that they'd done all that they could and they hadn't found it, and that's what it was going to be. Having said that, when 100,000 came along, we obviously jumped at the chance. We had no misgivings about it whatsoever, ‘cos I think we'd resigned ourselves to the fact that we might never know. Sarah Crawford: I think I thought that at some point we would, because the technology, the methodology that they're using obviously was changing all the time, but it didn't preoccupy me because I didn't think it would make a massive amount of difference. It probably made a bit more difference than I thought it would, for the reasons that Shaun and Sarah have said, about, you know, particularly the sort of connecting with others, you know, just realising how useful it is to be able to hear about the similarities and differences that other families experience. Shaun Pye: I think a key point for us, and I'm sure this is true for the vast majority of Unique families, that we never thought that there was a cure. We never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever thought there was. And nobody in our family did. It's not like anyone was saying, “Oh, with this treatment or that treatment…” Once you know that it's DYRK1A, there's obviously things that you can tailor towards her in terms of therapy, you know, there are things that you can do, but we were never under the illusion that if we found out what it was, she could go on and some sort of drug would suddenly make it better. Sarah Crawford: Yeah, we're not queuing up for experimental stem cell treatment [laughter] in weird and wonderful parts of the world, you know. What's happened has happened. Her brain didn't develop properly in utero and beyond. There is no changing that. Naimah: But I guess with diagnosis, and like you said, if you can get some relief from some of those other symptoms that are caused by it, then, you know, that's some sort of relief for Joey and a bit of help. Shaun Pye: Yeah, there are absolutely concrete things that you can learn that will – Joey will never be better, but talking to the other families – eating disorder, that's one of them. Constipation, that's another thing. But hearing their experiences, hearing the roads they've gone down, finding out that there's, you know, a unit somewhere in the country that specialises in this, that or the other, these are concrete things. It's not just about emotional support. It's absolutely about practical support. But there's no magic wand, but there are things that, you know, we've learnt that can help. Naimah: And then Sarah, to come to you then, do you find that families find it difficult to seek out help from Unique once they've received a diagnosis, or are they likely to come quite quickly to you? What's your experience? Sarah Wynn: It's a really good question, and of course we don't know the ones that never find their way to us. But what we try to do at Unique is to be sort of warm and friendly and welcoming, so that it's not too daunting. ‘Cos I think all of these things are an extra thing for parents who are already busy and dealing with lots of medical appointments and therapies, so we try to make it as easy as possible to join us. Many, many families do join us at that point of diagnosis, because that's when they're looking for more information. Actually, you can get in touch with Unique and if you decided you didn't want to join us, that's also fine. So, we have a helpline that you can call. And for some people, joining a support group just isn't their cup of tea, and that's really fine. Other people find us a little bit later on, you know, perhaps when their child starts school or, you know, there's sorts of crunch points where people are looking for extra information or support that they tend to find their way to us. But one of the things we try really hard to do is to get the word out that organisations like ours exist, so that we can be contacted if people want to. And lots of our families come, like Shaun and Sarah, after the geneticist has told them that we're there. So, that's a really important thing for us is that everybody knows we're there. You can join us and involve yourself as much or as little as you want. So, as we've already talked about, one of the things we do is put families in touch with each other, but not all families want that. So, you know, you can join and remain no contact, and stay quietly under the radar if you'd like to. But those people often want their child to be sort of counted in the system, you know. When you say how x number of people have DYRK1A, they want their child to be in that number even if they don't want to go to the meetups, or they're not quite ready to do that. And of course people change. So, some people join us and think, “We're just going to quietly sit here for a bit,” and then change their mind a bit further down the line. I think, although There She Goes, and what Sarah and Shaun have said about their journey is really similar to many people's journeys, of course everyone is a bit different, and so people want different things at different times. And what we try to do at Unique is to be those things for whenever families need us. Naimah: Yeah, that must be really reassuring for families, knowing that they can come to you whenever they feel ready to more than anything. Shaun Pye: Just to jump in quickly as a sort of user of Unique, from the sort of different perspective from Sarah, that is literally how the service presents. That's not an ideal that they aspire to. That's what it's like. So, I can confirm that – I mean, people think different things, and within our DYRK1A group, for example, you know, there's a broad range of people who think various things, but the one thing about it and Unique is it's very well self-policed, so people know how to behave. You won't be subjected to ill informed sort of medical nonsense. It's very well self-policed, but it's also very, very occasionally – I'm speaking for the DYRK1A group – the example they gave me was around covid and vaccinations, and, you know, people have very strong views about it, and these forums aren't the places to be having that sort of discussion. Sarah Wynn: I think that's exactly it. One of the ways families can connect with each other is via an online forum, and generally we take quite a light touch in moderating it, because the forum is for the families, and we want them to feel ownership and that it's their safe space. But yeah, ever so occasionally, it needs just a tiny little bit of input. But yeah, I think Shaun's right, everybody's there for the same reason, and that's to kind of share experiences, sometimes vent about the world, ask questions, and actually celebrate things that other people might not see as such a celebration. You know, lots of our families, their children might be late to walk, and it's a place where you can celebrate all of those sorts of things as well. [Music] Naimah: So, next I want to move on to talk about 'There She Goes'. So, you mentioned it briefly there, Sarah. So, this is the BBC Two comedy drama, for which Shaun and Sarah were both writers on, and it really draws upon your real-life experiences of caring for Joey. And although the series is posed as a gentle comedy, it also displays really frank and honest emotions experienced by Emily and Simon, who are the parents of Rosie in the programme. Let's listen to the poignant clip from the series by Jessica Hynes, who plays the mother, Emily. Emily: You know, when you're younger and daydream about what family you might have – so, I was the girl who thought Claire always got away with murder. Or when we found out Ben was going to be a boy, if it would be like you and Soph, you know, dorky older brother, biffy outdoor sister who everyone liked, you know. But in none of my dreams was there a girl who… Yeah, who was like Rosie. Yeah… No one ever dreams of a child like Rosie… You know, and I… I love Rosie, but why do I have to be defined by her? You know, for a long time, I felt cheated by her, because she wasn't the girl that I dreamt about, you know. She'd taken her place. And then as she got older and I accepted her more, you know, what if it wasn't that she'd taken her place, what if she just pushed in the queue and then if we started again, then if I had, you know, a normal girl, and then I wouldn't have to… I wouldn't have to resent Rosie anymore because I'd have the family that I'd always wanted, and I'd have – I'd have Rosie as well, yeah. [Sobbing] Just after all these years, haven't I earnt that? [Music] Naimah: Off the back of that, I wondered if you could both tell me a bit more about what it meant for you being able to write for the programme and, you know, what it's meant in the aftermath as well. Shaun Pye: So, it came about - I basically am a TV writer and Sarah's a psychologist, but it came about primarily because I was trying to think of something to write about and we realised that Joey's just an incredible character. Those sort of children aren't featured on mainstream television really at all, I would say. And so we thought it would be an interesting thing to do. But from that sort of slightly selfish motive, I wrote an episode, and Sarah read it and said, “You're not doing that, it's not honest enough” [laughter]. So, Sarah came on board as a writer with me and we cowrote it. The whole thing's cowritten. And it's the most important piece of work I've ever done, I ever will do, and it became far more than just a TV programme. The first series went out and we had a screening, and Unique came to the screening, along with some of the other charities, and we were so terrified of what the response would be. And the fact that the response was what it was, which was overwhelmingly, “It's like looking at our own lives on television,” it was recognition. It was nothing to do with whether the stupid jokes were funny or anything [laughter]. It was purely whether – if anyone had turned round and said, “This has got nothing to do with what it's like bringing up our child,” or our brother or sister or whatever, that would have been quite bad for us, but it wasn't, and that's been the overwhelming response since. It's, “Thank you for putting our life on television, ‘cos it's not normally on television.” So, it became that, and so the second series was even more about that, and then the special that we did was almost totally aimed at, we need to tell these stories because there are so many people in this country who this story isn't being told for them. And it so happened that Joey hit puberty and had some very, very, very problematic behaviours, sort of self-harming behaviours, it happened quite close to her being diagnosed, so we thought this story is just written for us. Joey's written it for us. So, we just sort of wrote down what happened. That was sort of what it was. And then obviously the response to that was very good. So yeah, and we wanted to feature Unique ‘cos that was such an important part of what we'd been through. So yeah, it went from me wanting to further my career to that having nothing to do with it, and me wanting to [laughter] tell the story of children with rare chromosomal disorders and learning disability, and that's what it became. Naimah: I'm sure it must have been almost quite cathartic, I imagine, in a way, to share your story that way, and also, you know, give you a real sense of accomplishment to be able to kind of share your story on that platform. Like you said, like it's never been done before in such a way, and to get that kind of response from other families, it must have really just helped you both in your journey as well, I can imagine. Shaun Pye: For me, because it's what I do for a living, it still retained a certain sense of my job. And, you know, emotionally, obviously, entirely committed to it. All the bits that make you sort of cry, or all the bits that are like, oh my god, Sarah wrote – I wrote all the stupid bits that David Tennant says [laughter]. So, I think it was more cathartic for you. You really had to dig deep into some quite unpleasant memories [laughter]. Sarah Crawford: Yeah, it wasn't always the most comfortable process, you know. We'd sort of agree – I mean, particularly in the earlier process, we'd sort of have a little think about what we wanted to talk about, and then I'd go off and like kind of delve deep into memory, and just type a stream of consciousness, and I'd be sitting there sobbing [laughter], you know, with tears rolling down my face, you know, just reliving these really awful experiences. But yeah, I think the end process ended up being cathartic, and a lot of that was stuff that I would never have imagined sharing with anybody [laughter], let alone, you know, this huge audience of people, which – yeah, strange how things evolve. Shaun Pye: Yeah, I think possibly if we hadn't done this then we might have just tried to not think about these things and not bring them back, and I think we probably wouldn't have spoken to each other – we may have, I don't know. I don't know what would have happened. But I don't think these things would have come out into the open. And very interestingly, another side aspect of it in the catharsis way is the effect the programme had on the wider family. There were certain members of the family who were really shaken by that programme, really shaken, because they had a set view. Even as Joey got older, they had a set view of the history and what had happened, and they were really shaken by the idea that their – out of love again, there's nothing bad here, but they were really shaken by the idea that their actions had a detrimental effect on us when Joey was born. You know, there were people saying, “Well, I didn't say that there was nothing wrong with her,” and, “I didn't say this or that,” but actually when you see it presented in the programme then there was a lot of re-evaluation that went on, in a good way, in a positive way and it's all good. Sarah Crawford: I think there's something about seeing it, you know, and especially given, you know, we were so fortunate with the cast because they're so good at portraying it. And I think there's a power in seeing things played out rather than just hearing about them in the abstract. Naimah: Yeah, definitely. I definitely had moments of crying and laughing, and a range of emotions while I was watching it, so yeah, definitely very powerful. And I guess it's really great for other families going through similar circumstances, for their families to see what's happening and, you know, there's a lot that can be learned from the programme as well. So, you know, it's, yeah, really a powerful piece that you put together. Sarah Wynn: I would really like to echo that. I think Shaun and Sarah have said before that they didn't do it to represent everybody's experience, but actually that is exactly what it has provided. I would say that huge numbers of people are really grateful that that portrayal is there, so that they can be seen and heard and understood so brilliantly. But it has provided other families with the opportunity to show it to their friends and family, so that they understand their life as well. And so I think it's had a hugely positive reaction from our Unique community. And I think it's not always an easy watch, I think lots of families would say it's challenging to see it up close in front of you, but I think it's really cathartic and has been just incredibly powerful at showing these sorts of stories, which, as you said, just don't get shown very often. And I think particularly when we think that rare conditions, although they're individually rare, if you put all of the rare chromosome conditions together, they're not actually that rare, so these are stories that are going on up and down the country and all over the world. Shaun Pye: Just to follow up on something Sarah said earlier on about, you can take as much or little as you like from Unique, it's the same with the show. I've had lots of people get in touch with me or talk to me in person and say, “I'm really sorry, I tried to watch ‘There She Goes' and I can't watch it,” and I have to say, “Don't apologise, you have nothing to apologise for. You take what you need from it. If you can't watch it then don't watch it. If you can watch it then do. There is literally no right or wrong way of doing this. There really isn't.” But having said that, the nicest comment – well, one of the nicest comments I've seen was on the DYRK1A forum. It was someone who casually referred to it as “our show,” as in the DYRK1A community, it belongs to them, and that – yeah, a little tear, a little tear went down my face [laughter]. Naimah: Yeah, that must have been a lovely thing for you to read. That's really nice. Sarah Wynn: Also from the Unique and general people who have rare conditions community, it's been so fantastic for raising awareness about genetic testing and rare conditions in general, and, you know, there just isn't – because these stories don't get talked about or shown about very often, it's been really great from that point of view as well. Naimah: And hopefully this will be the catalyst for similar programmes and, you know, more things in the mainstream media as well. And you did touch on it briefly there, Sarah, about, you know, what the programme's meant for Unique, you know, and the Unique community being very supportive, but have more people reached out to Unique since the programme? Sarah Wynn: I think the main takeaway is that being heard, “Our family's being heard and represented,” which I think is really important. But yes, we've got lots and lots of new families that have come to us through watching There She Goes. And it was really fortuitous that when the special aired last spring/summer, it was the evening before our awareness day, which I think was a complete coincidence but actually turned out to be really great timing. So, we got lots and lots of new families get in touch with us, many of whom then went on to join us. But actually what it also did was get lots of members who'd been members for a long time but perhaps had been a bit quiet, or hadn't been in touch, so it sort of also reinvigorated that engagement from other members who we might not have heard about for ages, and who might have got older children and had been in touch at the point when they were diagnosed, and then hadn't been. So, it has just been such a brilliant, brilliant experience to have Unique as part of it. And I think that's really important. At Unique, we have members from 120 different countries, and the reason is that when you have these rare conditions, you're really unlikely to find someone in the same town as you, possibly not even the same country with some rare conditions, and so the idea that you can connect with people all over the world I think is really important, particularly in rare conditions. Naimah: Yeah, that's great, and hopefully, you know, it just continues to increase support with Unique and, you know, families know they can still come to you as a resource and as that continues. So, I just wanted to kind of wrap up here and come to the final question. So, you know, your story highlights a lot of challenges, a lot of difficulties, a lot of ups and downs, but I just wondered, Shaun and Sarah, if you had any advice for other parents going through similar circumstances. Shaun Pye: Yeah, I think one of the things is what I just said, which is I would tell people there's no right or wrong way of doing this. I would say, from my experience, don't be hard on yourself, and you're going to think that you wish it never happened to you and that's fine. That is absolutely fine. That's normal. We've all thought that. It doesn't make you a bad parent. It makes you a normal human being. I would say to get in touch with Unique. I shied away a little bit from help and charities, ‘cos I think it was a sort of pride. I think I had a preconception that it would be glass half full, put on a happy smile, best foot forward, blitz spirit sort of. We have encountered it a little bit over the years, not very much, but we've encountered a little bit of, you know, “As long as you love them, that's the most important thing,” and, you know, which is fine and that is an okay perspective to have, but there are times when it's just not what you want to hear. I want to be allowed to feel the feelings that I'm having without feeling guilty. So, I would encourage people to seek support from Unique or from wherever. But, you know, generally, the thing I've learnt about people is that the vast, vast majority of people are nice and kind and understanding about this. Not everyone, but most people are good people and, you know, people should remember that, I think. Sarah Crawford: Yeah. I mean, the first thing I was going to say in terms of advice to other people was something Shaun said already, which is the don't be harsh on yourself, because, you know, you're allowed to find it difficult. But I would also say it's okay to grieve the child that you didn't have that you thought you were going to have. I just think that's so important. And I think for me, the most difficult thing in the early couple of years was feeling like I couldn't do that because nobody appreciated that I'd actually lost anything. The world seems to use the word difference a lot at the minute, you know, “These children are different, they're differently abled,” but actually it is disability [laughter], and it is more difficult, you know. There are rewards, there are positives, but, you know, she's 17 and a half now, our daughter. When our son was 17 and a half, you know, the challenges were different, but they were also nowhere near as big [laughter], and I don't think that should get lost. Because I think parents need to feel it's okay to get the help they need and to push for the help they need, and not feel like they've just got to kind of put on a brave face and, you know, as Shaun was saying, the attitude sometimes of, “Well, you've just got to get on with it.” Because while you do, actually, you know, you do need help to do that. It is difficult. Shaun Pye: The only other thing I'd say is, just ‘cos Sarah just mentioned it and it gets forgotten, is the siblings thing. The families with Unique will have all manner of different configurations. I can only speak from our own experience, but Joey has an elder brother, Frank, who is, well, in my opinion, the best human being in the world [laughter], and I'm sure in his mother's opinion as well, but my experience, never forget about the toll it takes on siblings. ‘Cos Frank is a very, very loving brother. Only last night, Joey was typing, “Frank book.” ‘Cos he's gone to university, she likes looking at pictures of him in the photo albums. She likes looking at pictures of old toys mainly. Sarah Crawford: Yeah, yeah, she likes looking at her as a baby and the toys they had. Shaun Pye: Yeah, but it's not really advice, it's just, you know, there's a danger that Joey could have taken over our entire family life, and especially Sarah made sure that didn't happen and that, you know, we were a unit and he was – but, you know, it is possible that it can swallow up your entire life. [Music] Naimah: Okay, so we'll wrap the interview up there. Thank you so much to our guests, Shaun Pye, Sarah Crawford and Sarah Wynn for joining us today as we discussed Shaun and Sarah's journey to Joey's diagnosis, and how charities like Unique can support families of those living with rare conditions. If you'd like to hear more like this, please subscribe to the G Word on your favourite podcast app. Thank you for listening. I've been your host and producer, Naimah Callachand, and this podcast was edited by Bill Griffin at Ventoux Digital.

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Welcome back to White Dress Optional! This week, Mel & Malea get real about the "yeah...no's" of being a bridesmaid and the significant responsibilities that come with this role. As a bridesmaid, you have been honored with the task of protecting the bride from unnecessary drama or stress during this special season of life; not be the source of it. In this episode, we're sharing insights for brides to consider when choosing the ideal bride squad, as well as tips on how to be the best bridesmaid!Thank you for tuning into ‘White Dress Optional', a wedding podcast by Brilliant Bridal! Join us every Wednesday for candid conversations, expert insights, and heartwarming stories that celebrate love in all its forms. Connect with us on Instagram at @whitedressoptional or email us at podcast@brilliantbridal.com. If you are in one of our markets and searching for your dream dress, we'd be absolutely thrilled to accompany you on your bridal journey. Visit https://www.brilliantbridal.com/appointments to schedule an appointment to shop at one of our boutiques today!

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Happy Wednesday, and welcome back to White Dress Optional! With the air growing cooler, the sun setting a little earlier, and the aroma of pumpkin spice filling the air – it's a surefire sign that the holidays are near. Join us this week as Mel + Malea get real about the 'Yeah...No's' of the holiday season – we're talking boundaries, plans, and how to advocate for your ideal festive celebration. So, if you are newlyweds or soon-to-be married, make sure to tune into this merry discussion on conquering the holiday season together!Thank you for tuning into ‘White Dress Optional', a wedding podcast by Brilliant Bridal! Join us every Wednesday for candid conversations, expert insights, and heartwarming stories that celebrate love in all its forms. Connect with us on Instagram at @whitedressoptional or email us at podcast@brilliantbridal.com. If you are in one of our markets and searching for your dream dress, we'd be absolutely thrilled to accompany you on your bridal journey. Visit https://www.brilliantbridal.com/appointments to schedule an appointment to shop at one of our boutiques today!

@TheHeartlandPOD on Twitter and ThreadsCo-HostsAdam Sommer @Adam_Sommer85  (Twitter) @adam_sommer85 (Post)Rachel Parker @msraitchetp   (Post) Sean Diller @SeanDillerCO   (Twitter and Post)https://heartlandpod.com/JOIN PATREON FOR MORE - AND JOIN OUR SOCIAL NETWORK!“Change The Conversation”Outro Song: “The World Is On Fire” by American Aquarium http://www.americanaquarium.com/ TALKIN' POLITICST/F - Missouri Governor's race - Jay Aschcroft Is As Craven As He SeemsCurrent Missouri secretary of state and all time legacy admission Jay Ashcroft was asked about resisting Trump's criminal efforts to overturn the 2020 election by the KC Star and what he appears to have said was “Pass”https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article278265328.html?ac_cid=DM834815&ac_bid=-587293482Seems like a really dumb answer Is this not an issue that could be used - by primary or general opponents - to simply say they will protect the integrity of Missourians votes? Yeah No… larger heartland issue, but the pinpoint in MO, Missouri's Appointed AG Andrew Bailey joins national lawsuit on abortion that is really a back door on HIPAA protections, your federal health information protection act rights to privacyhttps://www.riverfronttimes.com/news/missouri-joins-18-states-in-challenging-abortion-patients-privacy-40486923Yeah, Yeah! Wisconsin's labor market is booming… just one of many ihttps://wisconsinexaminer.com/brief/tight-labor-market-continues-in-wisconsin-in-july-workforce-agency-reports/Buy or Sell…Biden showing international leadership matters for the politics of 2024Biden having trilateral meeting at Camp David with Japanese and South Korean leadershttps://www.cnn.com/2023/08/17/politics/joe-biden-camp-david-japan-south-korea/index.htmlThe Big One…Trump's Georgia Indictment, And His Negative Trending Numbershttps://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumps-indictments-favorability-primary-polls/Donald Trump canceled a press conference on the 2020 election based on legal advicehttps://www.npr.org/2023/08/18/1194559233/trump-cancels-press-conference-on-election-fraud-claims-citing-attorneys-adviceTrump doing a tucker interview and not the debatehttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2023/aug/18/trump-trial-january-6-biden-summit-us-elections-live-updatesTrump looking for delay, just a TAD after the election, to 2026https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/18/trump-jan-6-trial-start-date-delay

@TheHeartlandPOD on Twitter and ThreadsOpening (0m-8:15m)Crystal Quade (8:15m)SPECIAL GUEST - MO DEM. HOUSE LEADER AND NEWLY DECLARED CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR OF MISSOURI - CRYSTAL QUADE Co-HostsAdam Sommer @Adam_Sommer85  (Twitter) @adam_sommer85 (Post)Rachel Parker @msraitchetp   (Post) Sean Diller @SeanDillerCO   (Twitter and Post)https://heartlandpod.com/JOIN PATREON FOR MORE - AND JOIN OUR SOCIAL NETWORK!“Change The Conversation”Talkin' Politics - The Mo Gov EditionCrystal Quade running for Missouri Gov. — 2024@crystal_quade (Twitter and Threads)https://crystalquade.com/Yeah, NOKansas AG Sues Kansas Governor About Words On Drivers Licensehttps://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article277067983.html?ac_cid=DM819836&ac_bid=-924317662Veto by MO Governor  (and noted gold fish) Mike Parson Added Fuel To Mo Dems Fire With His Only Veto of 2023Only bill vetoed by Gov. Mike Parson would have also enacted ‘Blair's Law,' raise age for trying youth as adults, expanded conviction review processhttps://missouriindependent.com/2023/07/06/effort-to-boost-payment-for-wrongly-convicted-vetoed-by-missouri-governor/Yeah YeahBiden Admin Health Care ReformNothing huge but anyone who has had a “Wait, I thought this was covered” moment should be appreciating this onehttps://missouriindependent.com/2023/07/07/biden-administration-to-crack-down-on-junk-health-insurance-plans-surprise-billing/Buy or SellThe GOP Split Is Deeper Than The Surfacehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/07/07/maga-john-eastman-lin-wood-trump-impeachment-mayorkas/Big one Growing push by right wing extreme to rewrite American history in favor of a modern dominionist (Christo-Facist) narrative Josh Hawley enters the chathttps://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/josh-hawley-falls-hole-finds-shovel-keeps-digging-rcna92822

@TheHeartlandPOD on Twitter and ThreadsOpening (0m-8:15m)Crystal Quade (8:15m)SPECIAL GUEST - MO DEM. HOUSE LEADER AND NEWLY DECLARED CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR OF MISSOURI - CRYSTAL QUADE Co-HostsAdam Sommer @Adam_Sommer85  (Twitter) @adam_sommer85 (Post)Rachel Parker @msraitchetp   (Post) Sean Diller @SeanDillerCO   (Twitter and Post)https://heartlandpod.com/JOIN PATREON FOR MORE - AND JOIN OUR SOCIAL NETWORK!“Change The Conversation”Talkin' Politics - The Mo Gov EditionCrystal Quade running for Missouri Gov. — 2024@crystal_quade (Twitter and Threads)https://crystalquade.com/Yeah, NOKansas AG Sues Kansas Governor About Words On Drivers Licensehttps://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article277067983.html?ac_cid=DM819836&ac_bid=-924317662Veto by MO Governor  (and noted gold fish) Mike Parson Added Fuel To Mo Dems Fire With His Only Veto of 2023Only bill vetoed by Gov. Mike Parson would have also enacted ‘Blair's Law,' raise age for trying youth as adults, expanded conviction review processhttps://missouriindependent.com/2023/07/06/effort-to-boost-payment-for-wrongly-convicted-vetoed-by-missouri-governor/Yeah YeahBiden Admin Health Care ReformNothing huge but anyone who has had a “Wait, I thought this was covered” moment should be appreciating this onehttps://missouriindependent.com/2023/07/07/biden-administration-to-crack-down-on-junk-health-insurance-plans-surprise-billing/Buy or SellThe GOP Split Is Deeper Than The Surfacehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/07/07/maga-john-eastman-lin-wood-trump-impeachment-mayorkas/Big one Growing push by right wing extreme to rewrite American history in favor of a modern dominionist (Christo-Facist) narrative Josh Hawley enters the chathttps://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/josh-hawley-falls-hole-finds-shovel-keeps-digging-rcna92822

Thank you for listening to Yeah No, I'm Not OK. The team at LAist Studios would like to share our latest podcast, California Love: K-Pop Dreaming. It's a story about the rise and history of K-pop in the United States, as told from the point-of-view of the Korean diaspora in Los Angeles by host Vivian Yoon. In a special live event in partnership between LAist Studios and GYOPO, Vivian delves into the origins of K-Pop with Michello Cho, a professor at University of Toronto, and Jheanelle Brown, a California Institute of the Arts faculty member. The conversation goes deep on the influence of hip hop on K-Pop's sound and dance, the impact of American imperialism on the music, and more.(originally published April 27, 2023)This episode features clips from these videos:Korean Kittens - What'd I Say: The Korean Kittens What'd I SayGirls' Generation - Genie: Girls' Generation 소녀시대 '소원을 말해봐 (Genie)' MV (Start at 00:35)BTS - Intro Performance Trailer: BTS (방탄소년단) 가요대제전 Intro performance TrailerSeo Taiji & Boys - Anyhow Song: 서태지와 아이들(Seotaiji and Boys) - 하여가(Anyhow Song) M/VYoon Mirae - Black Happiness: [MV] Yoonmirae(윤미래) _ Black Happiness(검은 행복) -  Support K-pop Dreaming and other LAist Studios podcasts by donating now at LAist.com/join This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Save 10% off your first month at BetterHelp.com/Dreaming This episode is brought to you by your local Kia dealers. Visit kia.com to discover movement that inspires. This program is made possible in part by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, a private corporation funded by the American people.

Thank you for listening to Yeah No, I'm Not OK. The team at LAist Studios would like to share our latest podcast, California Love: K-Pop Dreaming. It's a story about the rise and history of K-pop in the United States, as told from the point-of-view of the Korean diaspora in Los Angeles by host Vivian Yoon. "Psycho" was an instant K-Pop hit when it came out in 2019. The Red Velvet song debuted at No. 1 on Billboard's World Digital Song Sales chart, and the music video now has over 300 million views on Youtube.In this bonus episode, we look at the creation of "Psycho". Vivian speaks to two of the songwriters behind the song -- and learns about a little-known incident that erupted just days before the song's release. (Originally published April 20, 2023) Support K-pop Dreaming and other LAist Studios podcasts by donating now at LAist.com/join This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Save 10% off your first month at BetterHelp.com/Dreaming This episode is brought to you by your local Kia dealers. Visit kia.com to discover movement that inspires. This program is made possible in part by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, a private corporation funded by the American people.

Thank you for listening to Yeah No, I'm Not OK. The team at LAist Studios would like to share our latest podcast, California Love: K-Pop Dreaming. It's a story about the rise and history of K-pop in the United States, as told from the point-of-view of the Korean diaspora in Los Angeles by host Vivian Yoon. 1TYM is one of the most iconic first-generation K-pop groups from the 90's. The group is also one of Vivian's all-time favorites.This special bonus episode features an extended interview with Danny Im, the lead vocalist of 1TYM. Danny talks to Vivian about meeting legendary K-pop producer YG in Koreatown for an impromptu audition, 1TYM's rise to fame during K-pop's infancy in the ‘90s and early 2000s, and Danny's first impressions of Jennie and Lisa -- when the two auditioned for YG Entertainment before becoming members of BLACKPINK.(originally published April 13, 2023) Support K-pop Dreaming and other LAist Studios podcasts by donating now at LAist.com/join This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Save 10% off your first month at BetterHelp.com/Dreaming This episode is brought to you by your local Kia dealers. Visit kia.com to discover movement that inspires. This program is made possible in part by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, a private corporation funded by the American people.

TUESDAY 6/6/23: A CEO is under fire after one of his store's fired an employee who yelled at a thief. A TikTok user pays a huge vet bill for their hamster. A fully-costumed furry gives a cringe interview on Fox News. Shawn is shocked at how seldom everyone else got bloody noses growing up.

Thank you for listening to Yeah No, I'm Not OK. The team at LAist Studios would like to share our latest podcast, California Love: K-Pop Dreaming. It's a story about the rise and history of K-pop in the United States, as told from the point-of-view of the Korean diaspora in Los Angeles by host Vivian Yoon. K-Pop has put Koreatown on the map for a lot of people who might not have known about the neighborhood otherwise. Fans from around the country visit the area for concerts, special K-Pop events, and to find rare or one-of-a-kind merch. Vivian hits up some of these establishments in K-town to see what they reveal about the history of the neighborhood and the music, and how those connections have shaped Korean Americans who have grown up in Los Angeles. Features Ryan Lee Wong, author of the novel, “Which Side Are You On”.(originally published April 6, 2023) Support K-pop Dreaming and other LAist Studios podcasts by donating now at LAist.com/join This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Save 10% off your first month at BetterHelp.com/Dreaming This episode is brought to you by your local Kia dealers. Visit kia.com to discover movement that inspires. This program is made possible in part by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, a private corporation funded by the American people.

Thank you for listening to Yeah No, I'm Not OK. The team at LAist Studios would like to share our latest podcast, California Love: K-Pop Dreaming. It's a story about the rise and history of K-pop in the United States, as told from the point-of-view of the Korean diaspora in Los Angeles by host Vivian Yoon. 1TYM is one of the most iconic first-generation K-pop groups from the 90's. The group is also one of Vivian's all-time favorites.This special bonus episode features an extended interview with Danny Im, the lead vocalist of 1TYM. Danny talks to Vivian about meeting legendary K-pop producer YG in Koreatown for an impromptu audition, 1TYM's rise to fame during K-pop's infancy in the ‘90s and early 2000s, and Danny's first impressions of Jennie and Lisa -- when the two auditioned for YG Entertainment before becoming members of BLACKPINK.(originally published April 13, 2023) Support K-pop Dreaming and other LAist Studios podcasts by donating now at LAist.com/join This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Save 10% off your first month at BetterHelp.com/Dreaming This episode is brought to you by your local Kia dealers. Visit kia.com to discover movement that inspires. This program is made possible in part by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, a private corporation funded by the American people.Support LAist Today: https://LAist.com/donate

Thank you for listening to Yeah No, I'm Not OK. The team at LAist Studios would like to share our latest podcast, California Love: K-Pop Dreaming. It's a story about the rise and history of K-pop in the United States, as told from the point-of-view of the Korean diaspora in Los Angeles by host Vivian Yoon. There's no better place to experience K-Pop fandom in all of its passion and glory than KCON. In the span of a decade, the annual fan convention has grown to a nationwide event drawing hundreds of thousands of fans. And just like many things K-Pop-related in the US – the extravaganza started right here in Southern California. Vivian and her childhood friends visit KCON held in downtown Los Angeles to witness the impact of the music firsthand.(Originally published March 30, 2023) Support K-pop Dreaming and other LAist Studios podcasts by donating now at LAist.com/join This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Save 10% off your first month at BetterHelp.com/DreamingThis episode is brought to you by your local Kia dealers. Visit kia.com to discover movement that inspires.This program is made possible in part by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, a private corporation funded by the American people.

Thank you for listening to Yeah No, I'm Not OK. The team at LAist Studios would like to share our latest podcast, California Love: K-Pop Dreaming. It's a story about the rise and history of K-pop in the United States, as told from the point-of-view of the Korean diaspora in Los Angeles by host Vivian Yoon. The LA Uprising exploded racial and economic injustices simmering under the surface of Los Angeles into the open. Vivian looks at the events leading up to the Uprising, and the efforts following the protests to promote racial harmony in Los Angeles, including the staging of an African music festival in South Los Angeles that featured a performance by an up-and-coming Korean American rapper named Tiger JK. Years after the festival, he would go on to make a name for himself in South Korea as the “Godfather of Korean Hip-Hop”.(Originally published March 23, 2023) Support K-pop Dreaming and other LAist Studios podcasts by donating now at LAist.com/join This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Save 10% off your first month at BetterHelp.com/Dreaming This episode is brought to you by your local Kia dealers. Visit kia.com to discover movement that inspires. This program is made possible in part by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, a private corporation funded by the American people.

Thank you for listening to Yeah No, I'm Not OK. The team at LAist Studios would like to share our latest podcast, California Love: K-Pop Dreaming. It's a story about the rise and history of K-pop in the United States, as told from the point-of-view of the Korean diaspora in Los Angeles by host Vivian Yoon. The underground hip-hop scene in Los Angeles was thriving in the late 1980s. And there, soaking in the vibe, was a Korean American college student by the name of Jae Chong. He was also making music on the side, but didn't think much was going to come of it. That is, until an out-of-the-blue invitation brought him and his friends to Korea when K-pop was taking off. Their group, Solid, would become the Kings of R&B and the first Korean American act to make a splash in the Korean music industry. Vivian reflects on the importance of Solid and sees the group's Korean-Americanness as the cornerstone of their success.(Originally published March 16, 2023) Support K-pop Dreaming by donating now at LAist.com/join This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Save 10% off your first month at BetterHelp.com/Dreaming This episode is brought to you by your local Kia dealers. Visit kia.com to discover movement that inspires. This program is made possible in part by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, a private corporation funded by the American people.

Heartland POD on Twitter - @TheHeartlandPOD Guest Host: Ray Reed @RayReedMO (Twitter)Co-HostsAdam Sommer @Adam_Sommer85  (Twitter) @adam_sommer85 (Post)Rachel Parker @msraitchetp   (Post) Sean Diller @SeanDillerCO   (Twitter and Post)https://heartlandpod.com/JOIN PATREON FOR MORE - AND JOIN OUR SOCIAL NETWORK!“Change The Conversation”Yeah…Yeah…Yeah… STL Progressives did well in spring elections - RachelWisc. Supreme Court Race positive outcome - RAY -         —— GenZ said: We're done with the bullshit https://twitter.com/victorshi2020/status/1644055065618182144?s=46&t=mukZUfs5M_R3E9tAHIu-GATrue or FalseJay Ashcroft is correct that Missouri Republicans have failed in their leadership https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/politics/2023/04/06/republican-ashcroft-joins-kehoe-in-2024-race-for-missouri-governor/70088658007/"Red states like Florida, Texas, Tennessee, even Indiana and Arkansas, have become examples of conservative leadership while Missouri Republicans, who control every statewide office and have supermajorities in both chambers of the legislature, have failed to deliver," Ashcroft said in a statement. "I'm running to change that."Gotta love a direct attack on your own party as an OPENING moveCyrstal Quade also eyeing a run for governor - here response Yeah…No, Yeah Mini one: Justice Clarence Thomas living the good life, just not on his own dimehttps://www.propublica.org/article/clarence-thomas-scotus-undisclosed-luxury-travel-gifts-crowReal one: Tennessee GOP expels the Tennessee 3 https://twitter.com/thetnholler/status/1643600604827115520?s=46&t=mukZUfs5M_R3E9tAHIu-GATennessee Lookout (states newsroom project):https://tennesseelookout.com/2023/04/07/an-abomination-tn-house-expels-two-dems-over-gun-protest-despite-removal-looking-temporary/DONATE TO TENNESSEE DEMOCRATS: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/tndemocraticpartyBuy or SellPush by Iowa Dems is a good example for other similar heartland states on where to take the narrative along side the larger issue of abortionhttps://iowacapitaldispatch.com/briefs/iowa-house-democrats-release-proposals-to-lower-living-costs/Iowa Dems last week: House Minority Leader Jennifer Konfrst and House Democrats said they plan to introduce a slate of five bills Wednesday on issues from combating wage theft, lowering utility and prescription drug costs, expanding access to affordable housing and child care and freezing tuition. (From article by Robin Opsahl with Iowa Capital Dispatch - States News room outlet for Iowa)The Big OneFederal judge ruling in Texas case that would possibly end medication known commonly as the abortion pill https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/07/texas-judge-halts-fda-approval-of-abortion-pill-00091096Opportunity for legal showdown for Biden admin on the issue Another angle on the issue for 2024 - how does this impact the clear majority of American who think abortion should be legal Strategy of using Texas as a stepping stone for these court fights, especially against liberal programs: https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/supreme-court-upholds-affordable-care-4157822/BUT WAIT THERES MOREWashington State case comes out later that day and we've got dueling injunctions!!!!!  https://twitter.com/mjs_dc/status/1644474146716352512?s=46&t=mukZUfs5M_R3E9tAHIu-GAYou go straight to SCOTUS DO NOT PASS GO DO NOT COLLECT $200 dollarsGood NPR story on it https://www.npr.org/2023/04/07/1159220452/abortion-pill-drug-mifepristone-judge-texas-amarillo

Heartland POD on Twitter - @TheHeartlandPOD Guest Host: Ray Reed @RayReedMO (Twitter)Co-HostsAdam Sommer @Adam_Sommer85  (Twitter) @adam_sommer85 (Post)Rachel Parker @msraitchetp   (Post) Sean Diller @SeanDillerCO   (Twitter and Post)https://heartlandpod.com/JOIN PATREON FOR MORE - AND JOIN OUR SOCIAL NETWORK!“Change The Conversation”Yeah…Yeah…Yeah… STL Progressives did well in spring elections - RachelWisc. Supreme Court Race positive outcome - RAY -         —— GenZ said: We're done with the bullshit https://twitter.com/victorshi2020/status/1644055065618182144?s=46&t=mukZUfs5M_R3E9tAHIu-GATrue or FalseJay Ashcroft is correct that Missouri Republicans have failed in their leadership https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/politics/2023/04/06/republican-ashcroft-joins-kehoe-in-2024-race-for-missouri-governor/70088658007/"Red states like Florida, Texas, Tennessee, even Indiana and Arkansas, have become examples of conservative leadership while Missouri Republicans, who control every statewide office and have supermajorities in both chambers of the legislature, have failed to deliver," Ashcroft said in a statement. "I'm running to change that."Gotta love a direct attack on your own party as an OPENING moveCyrstal Quade also eyeing a run for governor - here response Yeah…No, Yeah Mini one: Justice Clarence Thomas living the good life, just not on his own dimehttps://www.propublica.org/article/clarence-thomas-scotus-undisclosed-luxury-travel-gifts-crowReal one: Tennessee GOP expels the Tennessee 3 https://twitter.com/thetnholler/status/1643600604827115520?s=46&t=mukZUfs5M_R3E9tAHIu-GATennessee Lookout (states newsroom project):https://tennesseelookout.com/2023/04/07/an-abomination-tn-house-expels-two-dems-over-gun-protest-despite-removal-looking-temporary/DONATE TO TENNESSEE DEMOCRATS: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/tndemocraticpartyBuy or SellPush by Iowa Dems is a good example for other similar heartland states on where to take the narrative along side the larger issue of abortionhttps://iowacapitaldispatch.com/briefs/iowa-house-democrats-release-proposals-to-lower-living-costs/Iowa Dems last week: House Minority Leader Jennifer Konfrst and House Democrats said they plan to introduce a slate of five bills Wednesday on issues from combating wage theft, lowering utility and prescription drug costs, expanding access to affordable housing and child care and freezing tuition. (From article by Robin Opsahl with Iowa Capital Dispatch - States News room outlet for Iowa)The Big OneFederal judge ruling in Texas case that would possibly end medication known commonly as the abortion pill https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/07/texas-judge-halts-fda-approval-of-abortion-pill-00091096Opportunity for legal showdown for Biden admin on the issue Another angle on the issue for 2024 - how does this impact the clear majority of American who think abortion should be legal Strategy of using Texas as a stepping stone for these court fights, especially against liberal programs: https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/supreme-court-upholds-affordable-care-4157822/BUT WAIT THERES MOREWashington State case comes out later that day and we've got dueling injunctions!!!!!  https://twitter.com/mjs_dc/status/1644474146716352512?s=46&t=mukZUfs5M_R3E9tAHIu-GAYou go straight to SCOTUS DO NOT PASS GO DO NOT COLLECT $200 dollarsGood NPR story on it https://www.npr.org/2023/04/07/1159220452/abortion-pill-drug-mifepristone-judge-texas-amarillo

This week's guest is living legend Kathleen Madigan! With over 30 years in the game and countlesss hours on the road, Kathleen is one of the hardest working stand ups in the industry. In this episode she talks to Jesse about how her life changed (improved) during the pandemic, how much she doesn't like being in TV/film, and what she feels her generation can learn from millennials and gen z in the workplace. Watch Kathleen's latest special Hunting Bigfoot on Prime Video. Listen to her podcast, Madigan's Pubcast, wherever you get your podcasts. Pre order Jesse's book, Comedy Book: How Comedy Conquered Culture–and the Magic That Makes It Work here: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374604714/comedybook Follow Kathleen Madigan on Twitter and Instagram. Follow Jesse David Fox on Twitter and Instagram. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Heartland POD on Twitter - @TheHeartlandPOD Co-HostsAdam Sommer @Adam_Sommer85  (Twitter) @adam_sommer85 (Post)Rachel Parker @msraitchetp   (Post)Sean Diller @SeanDillerCO   (Twitter and Post)https://heartlandpod.com/JOIN PATREON FOR MORE - AND JOIN OUR SOCIAL NETWORK!“Change The Conversation”Yeah…Yeah…Yeah… MO dems do the damn thing again: https://missouriindependent.com/2023/03/29/democratic-filibuster-blocks-vote-on-bill-making-it-harder-to-amend-missouri-constitution/The Fet Man ReturnsTrue or FalseTerm limits and super majority legislatures are run by lobby groups through pre drafted legislationAttempt to pass legislation for Central Bank Digital Currency in MissouriRelevant background from Unsicker sho is smarthttps://twitter.com/sarahunsicker/status/1642333801299734528?s=46&t=mukZUfs5M_R3E9tAHIu-GA Or… in Missouri. And South Dakota, and Texas…Tennese tried tooWhat is a CBDC https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/mckinsey-explainers/what-is-central-bank-digital-currency-cbdcFolks can debate the CBDC and why it is or isn't good, but this is about the way legislation is happening across the country in GOP super majority controlled state houseshttps://twitter.com/LauraAnnSTL/status/1641862577226407940?s=20Video thanks to Laura Burkhardt, one of our OG supportersBill info: https://fastdemocracy.com/bill-search/mo/2023/bills/MOB00020243/#billtextsRep. Doug Richey trying to pretend like it's just a coincidence https://twitter.com/DougRicheyMO/status/1641612634343583744?s=20 Yeah…No, Yeah Mo Rep Doug Richey gave a speech that belongs in the 1860shttps://twitter.com/dougricheymo/status/1641817537624297472?s=46&t=mukZUfs5M_R3E9tAHIu-GA Buy or SellAbortion will be more important in 2024 than the Democrats messaging seems to indicate so farPropublica article: https://www.propublica.org/article/legal-medical-impact-abortion-legislation-qaMSNBC polling https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/abortion-legal-polls-rcna72217Hill article: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3890564-democrats-see-abortion-as-electrifying-issue-in-2024/GOP will all have to sign some kind of extreme pledge: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/03/19/abortion-foes-seek-vows-2024-gop-hopefuls/ Irony in Wyoming https://twitter.com/RachelBitecofer/status/1639761626084806656?s=20Florida 6 week ban going into place https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/27/florida-abortion-refuge-six-week-abortion-banState level ballot initiatives, missouri will almost certainly have one which is why they are trying to change it The Big OneLet's Play a Game!Adam has quotes from GOP members about Trump's indictment, let's see if you can guess who it is! I'll read the quote and provide clues until someone gets it. Last CallTrump Indictment in context of 2024 - Does it change anything?https://twitter.com/RachelBitecofer/status/1641873645210570755?s=20Interesting polling just came out from Quinnipiac  - trump indictment is bad for him across the board https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/us/us03292023_ufuy73.pdf 

Heartland POD on Twitter - @TheHeartlandPOD Co-HostsAdam Sommer @Adam_Sommer85  (Twitter) @adam_sommer85 (Post)Rachel Parker @msraitchetp   (Post)Sean Diller @SeanDillerCO   (Twitter and Post)https://heartlandpod.com/JOIN PATREON FOR MORE - AND JOIN OUR SOCIAL NETWORK!“Change The Conversation”Yeah…Yeah…Yeah… MO dems do the damn thing again: https://missouriindependent.com/2023/03/29/democratic-filibuster-blocks-vote-on-bill-making-it-harder-to-amend-missouri-constitution/The Fet Man ReturnsTrue or FalseTerm limits and super majority legislatures are run by lobby groups through pre drafted legislationAttempt to pass legislation for Central Bank Digital Currency in MissouriRelevant background from Unsicker sho is smarthttps://twitter.com/sarahunsicker/status/1642333801299734528?s=46&t=mukZUfs5M_R3E9tAHIu-GA Or… in Missouri. And South Dakota, and Texas…Tennese tried tooWhat is a CBDC https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/mckinsey-explainers/what-is-central-bank-digital-currency-cbdcFolks can debate the CBDC and why it is or isn't good, but this is about the way legislation is happening across the country in GOP super majority controlled state houseshttps://twitter.com/LauraAnnSTL/status/1641862577226407940?s=20Video thanks to Laura Burkhardt, one of our OG supportersBill info: https://fastdemocracy.com/bill-search/mo/2023/bills/MOB00020243/#billtextsRep. Doug Richey trying to pretend like it's just a coincidence https://twitter.com/DougRicheyMO/status/1641612634343583744?s=20 Yeah…No, Yeah Mo Rep Doug Richey gave a speech that belongs in the 1860shttps://twitter.com/dougricheymo/status/1641817537624297472?s=46&t=mukZUfs5M_R3E9tAHIu-GA Buy or SellAbortion will be more important in 2024 than the Democrats messaging seems to indicate so farPropublica article: https://www.propublica.org/article/legal-medical-impact-abortion-legislation-qaMSNBC polling https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/abortion-legal-polls-rcna72217Hill article: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3890564-democrats-see-abortion-as-electrifying-issue-in-2024/GOP will all have to sign some kind of extreme pledge: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/03/19/abortion-foes-seek-vows-2024-gop-hopefuls/ Irony in Wyoming https://twitter.com/RachelBitecofer/status/1639761626084806656?s=20Florida 6 week ban going into place https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/27/florida-abortion-refuge-six-week-abortion-banState level ballot initiatives, missouri will almost certainly have one which is why they are trying to change it The Big OneLet's Play a Game!Adam has quotes from GOP members about Trump's indictment, let's see if you can guess who it is! I'll read the quote and provide clues until someone gets it. Last CallTrump Indictment in context of 2024 - Does it change anything?https://twitter.com/RachelBitecofer/status/1641873645210570755?s=20Interesting polling just came out from Quinnipiac  - trump indictment is bad for him across the board https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/us/us03292023_ufuy73.pdf 

Heartland POD on Twitter - @TheHeartlandPOD Co-HostsAdam Sommer @Adam_Sommer85  (Twitter) @adam_sommer85 (Post)Rachel Parker @msraitchetp   (Post)Sean Diller @SeanDillerCO   (Twitter and Post)https://heartlandpod.com/JOIN PATREON FOR MORE - AND JOIN OUR SOCIAL NETWORK!“Change The Conversation”Yeah…Yeah…Yeah… Stacey Abrams new job: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/25/stacey-abrams-interview-electric-power-green-energyTrue or FalseWith abortion effectively outlawed the failure of the pro-life party's agenda is now a political cudgel for 2024Missouri can't care for disabled adultshttps://missouriindependent.com/2023/03/22/missourians-with-developmental-disabilities-languish-in-hospitals-jails-shelters/These are the MOST vulnerable among us, when we talk about LIFE, many of these folks are not getting a shot at living one in an appropriate setting“Least restrictive environment” is the legal language for guardianship Nursing Homes can't staff enough: https://missouriindependent.com/briefs/missouri-nursing-home-workers-say-staffing-shortages-have-created-unsafe-conditions/Interesting story about abortion pill law suit for contexthttps://missouriindependent.com/2023/03/21/what-plaintiffs-targeting-abortion-pill-want-might-not-even-be-possible/Yeah…No, Yeah Kansas Leg pushing a “Born alive” pill and Missouri Attorney General using emergency rules aimed at restricting how doctors provide gender-affirming care to minors.Kansas: https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article273375025.html?ac_cid=DM777154&ac_bid=-1855424907Missouri: https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article273382475.html?ac_cid=DM777154&ac_bid=-1855424907Missouri legislature is advancing similar legislation already since this announcement Bailey getting what he really wanted out of this which is large media coverage, NBC picked it uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFwDt_7k5hkGreat summary writeup in The Hill: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/3909342-missouri-ag-says-state-law-already-prohibits-gender-affirming-health-care-for-youth/Legal Attack on pills - seems dubious https://missouriindependent.com/2023/03/21/what-plaintiffs-targeting-abortion-pill-want-might-not-even-be-possible/Buy or SellFox News has already lost the Dominion Case, even if they win in CourtIntereting opinion piece that asserts Dominion has already won - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/23/dominion-fox-news-defamation-lawsuit-winner  The Big OneProud Boys Trial https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/23/proud-boys-witness-government-informant-trial?CMP=Share_iOSApp_OtherGovernment informantBTW - this is not a “attack” on conservatives - FBI using undercover folks on left and right: https://theintercept.com/2023/03/21/fbi-colorado-springs-surveillance/History of this trialhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/22/proud-boys-sedition-jan-6-trial-trumphttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/25/january-6-proud-boys-trial-begins-enrique-tarrio

Heartland POD on Twitter - @TheHeartlandPOD Co-HostsAdam Sommer @Adam_Sommer85  (Twitter) @adam_sommer85 (Post)Rachel Parker @msraitchetp   (Post)Sean Diller @SeanDillerCO   (Twitter and Post)https://heartlandpod.com/JOIN PATREON FOR MORE - AND JOIN OUR SOCIAL NETWORK!“Change The Conversation”Yeah…Yeah…Yeah… Stacey Abrams new job: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/25/stacey-abrams-interview-electric-power-green-energyTrue or FalseWith abortion effectively outlawed the failure of the pro-life party's agenda is now a political cudgel for 2024Missouri can't care for disabled adultshttps://missouriindependent.com/2023/03/22/missourians-with-developmental-disabilities-languish-in-hospitals-jails-shelters/These are the MOST vulnerable among us, when we talk about LIFE, many of these folks are not getting a shot at living one in an appropriate setting“Least restrictive environment” is the legal language for guardianship Nursing Homes can't staff enough: https://missouriindependent.com/briefs/missouri-nursing-home-workers-say-staffing-shortages-have-created-unsafe-conditions/Interesting story about abortion pill law suit for contexthttps://missouriindependent.com/2023/03/21/what-plaintiffs-targeting-abortion-pill-want-might-not-even-be-possible/Yeah…No, Yeah Kansas Leg pushing a “Born alive” pill and Missouri Attorney General using emergency rules aimed at restricting how doctors provide gender-affirming care to minors.Kansas: https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article273375025.html?ac_cid=DM777154&ac_bid=-1855424907Missouri: https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article273382475.html?ac_cid=DM777154&ac_bid=-1855424907Missouri legislature is advancing similar legislation already since this announcement Bailey getting what he really wanted out of this which is large media coverage, NBC picked it uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFwDt_7k5hkGreat summary writeup in The Hill: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/3909342-missouri-ag-says-state-law-already-prohibits-gender-affirming-health-care-for-youth/Legal Attack on pills - seems dubious https://missouriindependent.com/2023/03/21/what-plaintiffs-targeting-abortion-pill-want-might-not-even-be-possible/Buy or SellFox News has already lost the Dominion Case, even if they win in CourtIntereting opinion piece that asserts Dominion has already won - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/23/dominion-fox-news-defamation-lawsuit-winner  The Big OneProud Boys Trial https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/23/proud-boys-witness-government-informant-trial?CMP=Share_iOSApp_OtherGovernment informantBTW - this is not a “attack” on conservatives - FBI using undercover folks on left and right: https://theintercept.com/2023/03/21/fbi-colorado-springs-surveillance/History of this trialhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/22/proud-boys-sedition-jan-6-trial-trumphttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/25/january-6-proud-boys-trial-begins-enrique-tarrio

Heartland POD on Twitter - @TheHeartlandPOD Co-HostsAdam Sommer @Adam_Sommer85  (Twitter) @adam_sommer85 (Post)Rachel Parker @msraitchetp   (Post)Sean Diller @SeanDillerCO   (Twitter and Post)https://heartlandpod.com/JOIN PATREON FOR MORE - AND JOIN OUR SOCIAL NETWORK!“Change The Conversation”Yeah yeah… Mo dem party has leadership again, Russ Carnahan elected chair, Yvonne Reeves  probably not the favorite for progressives generally but hard to say not a legit name at a time when a brand name could be a very useful thing. True or FalseThe FTC is finally weighing in on what social media ads can and can't say and it isn't too late.https://www.reuters.com/technology/us-ftc-asks-social-media-video-streaming-firms-info-misleading-ads-2023-03-16/Yeah…No, Yeah The Odd Case of Marianne Williamson https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/16/marianne-williamson-abusive-treatment-2020-campaign-staff-00087268Buy or SellThe Failure of Silicon Valley Bank could be a way to revisit FDIC protections https://www.semafor.com/article/03/16/2023/after-silicon-valley-banks-failure-one-policy-response-is-gaining-bipartisan-momentumSenator Liz told us this would happen…when Trump rolled back Dodd-Frank IN 2018, y'all: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/svb-collapse-warren-porter-unveil-bill-repeal-trump-bank-law-rcna74785Liz: “In 2018, I rang the alarm bell about what would happen if Congress rolled back critical Dodd-Frank protections: Banks would load up on risk to boost their profits and collapse, threatening our entire economy — and that is precisely what happened,” Warren said. “President Biden called on Congress to strengthen the rules for banks, and I'm proposing legislation to do just that by repealing the core of Trump's bank law.”ProPublica nails it: https://www.propublica.org/article/silicon-valley-bank-failure-fdic-fed-failureThe Big One: Trump's Pending Arrest, 2024 Impact, and Adam's 2024 Mt. Rushmore Where Rachel Gets to go first Trump appears to be facing charges with a pending arrest in NY related to Stormy Daniel's and business record fraud, Trump says Tuesday arrestTrump calls for protests, personally attacking Allan Brag the prosecutorTrump Jr is whipping up the troopshttps://twitter.com/donaldjtrumpjr/status/1637088291248918532?s=46&t=mukZUfs5M_R3E9tAHIu-GATruth Social money laundering investigation (I am SHOCKED I tell you, SHOCKED)https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/15/trump-media-investigated-possible-money-launderingImpact on 2024 primaryTrumps deregulation collar adds weight?https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/17/donald-trump-railways-banks-deregulation-blames-bidenWacky In WACOhttps://www.texastribune.org/2023/03/17/donald-trump-2024-presidential-race-waco/Trump is shookEach pick your top 4 2024 names Dem or GOP Last Call:  Iraq War Invasion…20 Years On From Rachel: Bush broke the fucking world and is still an idiot. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bush-didnt-know-there-wer_n_26528Once again, Democracy Now just crushes it with the coverage of the conflict. Excellent.  https://www.democracynow.org/2023/3/17/neta_crawford_iraqFox News was the war's most important mouthpiece; war on terror came at a time when the nascent network needed to galvanize Bush's narrow support. 

Heartland POD on Twitter - @TheHeartlandPOD Co-HostsAdam Sommer @Adam_Sommer85  (Twitter) @adam_sommer85 (Post)Rachel Parker @msraitchetp   (Post)Sean Diller @SeanDillerCO   (Twitter and Post)https://heartlandpod.com/JOIN PATREON FOR MORE - AND JOIN OUR SOCIAL NETWORK!“Change The Conversation”Yeah yeah… Mo dem party has leadership again, Russ Carnahan elected chair, Yvonne Reeves  probably not the favorite for progressives generally but hard to say not a legit name at a time when a brand name could be a very useful thing. True or FalseThe FTC is finally weighing in on what social media ads can and can't say and it isn't too late.https://www.reuters.com/technology/us-ftc-asks-social-media-video-streaming-firms-info-misleading-ads-2023-03-16/Yeah…No, Yeah The Odd Case of Marianne Williamson https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/16/marianne-williamson-abusive-treatment-2020-campaign-staff-00087268Buy or SellThe Failure of Silicon Valley Bank could be a way to revisit FDIC protections https://www.semafor.com/article/03/16/2023/after-silicon-valley-banks-failure-one-policy-response-is-gaining-bipartisan-momentumSenator Liz told us this would happen…when Trump rolled back Dodd-Frank IN 2018, y'all: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/svb-collapse-warren-porter-unveil-bill-repeal-trump-bank-law-rcna74785Liz: “In 2018, I rang the alarm bell about what would happen if Congress rolled back critical Dodd-Frank protections: Banks would load up on risk to boost their profits and collapse, threatening our entire economy — and that is precisely what happened,” Warren said. “President Biden called on Congress to strengthen the rules for banks, and I'm proposing legislation to do just that by repealing the core of Trump's bank law.”ProPublica nails it: https://www.propublica.org/article/silicon-valley-bank-failure-fdic-fed-failureThe Big One: Trump's Pending Arrest, 2024 Impact, and Adam's 2024 Mt. Rushmore Where Rachel Gets to go first Trump appears to be facing charges with a pending arrest in NY related to Stormy Daniel's and business record fraud, Trump says Tuesday arrestTrump calls for protests, personally attacking Allan Brag the prosecutorTrump Jr is whipping up the troopshttps://twitter.com/donaldjtrumpjr/status/1637088291248918532?s=46&t=mukZUfs5M_R3E9tAHIu-GATruth Social money laundering investigation (I am SHOCKED I tell you, SHOCKED)https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/15/trump-media-investigated-possible-money-launderingImpact on 2024 primaryTrumps deregulation collar adds weight?https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/17/donald-trump-railways-banks-deregulation-blames-bidenWacky In WACOhttps://www.texastribune.org/2023/03/17/donald-trump-2024-presidential-race-waco/Trump is shookEach pick your top 4 2024 names Dem or GOP Last Call:  Iraq War Invasion…20 Years On From Rachel: Bush broke the fucking world and is still an idiot. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bush-didnt-know-there-wer_n_26528Once again, Democracy Now just crushes it with the coverage of the conflict. Excellent.  https://www.democracynow.org/2023/3/17/neta_crawford_iraqFox News was the war's most important mouthpiece; war on terror came at a time when the nascent network needed to galvanize Bush's narrow support. 

Heartland POD on Twitter - @TheHeartlandPOD Co-HostsAdam Sommer @Adam_Sommer85  (Twitter) @adam_sommer85 (Post)Rachel Parker @msraitchetp   (Post)Sean Diller @SeanDillerCO   (Twitter and Post)https://heartlandpod.com/JOIN PATREON FOR MORE - AND JOIN OUR SOCIAL NETWORK!“Change The Conversation”Yeah…Yeah…Yeah… Adam: I'm nominating the Missouri Senate Dems for using an extreme minority of seats to bully the fractured GOP to leave for spring break earlyRachel: Rep. Cori Bush: https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/cori-bush-transportation/Sean: True or FalseTucker's Lies Are Too Big To Swallow (Especially the ones about Josh Hawley) - sneaky Missouri 2024 senate talkRiver Front Times: https://www.riverfronttimes.com/news/hawleys-infamous-chicken-run-was-really-a-chicken-jog-tucker-carlson-argues-39611312Saying Hawley was brave by being in the back of the pack, like he was waiting to protect people(For Sean if you want it):  UUuuhhhhmmmm… hey Tucker… protect them from what? Wasn't it a peaceful group of tourists? What was he protecting them from? And what was he running from? This stuff is why I think this 2024 race with Kunce is a real race. Hawley is weak, feckless, and a fraud. And the hard core Right, the ones whos trucks are big but also very clean… the don't watch Fox any more anyway, its fake news now. So who are they even spinning this too? Missouri abortion petition too: https://missouriindependent.com/2023/03/09/group-files-ballot-measures-adding-abortion-protections-to-missouri-constitution/Yeah…No, Yeah Idaho Artwork Removed https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/07/idaho-college-abortion-artwork-banned?CMP=Share_iOSApp_OtherMeanwhile, not to be outdone because everything is bigger in Texas, a group of women are suing over the texas abortion ban: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/5-women-sue-texas-abortion-bans-lives-put/story?id=97614294Buy or Sell“Florida For All” Is A Winning Message?Adam said this week on Twitter: If Florida wasn't surrounded by beaches and filled with theme parks, it would be Idaho. DeSanits big plan was to make Florida a utopia of some kind and then try and sell that as a national planhttps://www.ocregister.com/2023/03/07/desantis-to-argue-us-should-be-like-fla-ahead-of-2024-bid/?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_content=tw-ocregisterWhat if they realize this gun law if from Florida? https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1633899301075075084?s=46&t=mukZUfs5M_R3E9tAHIu-GARon is too short? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/03/09/presidential-candidates-height-desantis-trump/The Big One2024 Presidential Race! What's the Mt. Rushmore of issues for 2024, and why?  (Deeper dive in last call this is just a brush over)Abortion? Healthcare? Education? Economy? Environment?Pew Research 2022 issues polling from February: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/02/25/state-of-the-union-2022-how-americans-view-major-national-issues/Comparisons of last 30 years - leaving out the 1996 and 2008 elections which are good examples of what a real mismatch can do to the map2020 - Single term loss - https://www.270towin.com/2020_Election/2016 - Trump's map - https://www.270towin.com/2016_Election/2012 - Reelection won - https://www.270towin.com/2012_Election/2004 - Reelection won - https://www.270towin.com/2004_Election/1992 - Single term loss - https://www.270towin.com/1992_Election/2024 – Blowout or Close? 

Heartland POD on Twitter - @TheHeartlandPOD Co-HostsAdam Sommer @Adam_Sommer85  (Twitter) @adam_sommer85 (Post)Rachel Parker @msraitchetp   (Post)Sean Diller @SeanDillerCO   (Twitter and Post)https://heartlandpod.com/JOIN PATREON FOR MORE - AND JOIN OUR SOCIAL NETWORK!“Change The Conversation”Yeah…Yeah…Yeah… Adam: I'm nominating the Missouri Senate Dems for using an extreme minority of seats to bully the fractured GOP to leave for spring break earlyRachel: Rep. Cori Bush: https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/cori-bush-transportation/Sean: True or FalseTucker's Lies Are Too Big To Swallow (Especially the ones about Josh Hawley) - sneaky Missouri 2024 senate talkRiver Front Times: https://www.riverfronttimes.com/news/hawleys-infamous-chicken-run-was-really-a-chicken-jog-tucker-carlson-argues-39611312Saying Hawley was brave by being in the back of the pack, like he was waiting to protect people(For Sean if you want it):  UUuuhhhhmmmm… hey Tucker… protect them from what? Wasn't it a peaceful group of tourists? What was he protecting them from? And what was he running from? This stuff is why I think this 2024 race with Kunce is a real race. Hawley is weak, feckless, and a fraud. And the hard core Right, the ones whos trucks are big but also very clean… the don't watch Fox any more anyway, its fake news now. So who are they even spinning this too? Missouri abortion petition too: https://missouriindependent.com/2023/03/09/group-files-ballot-measures-adding-abortion-protections-to-missouri-constitution/Yeah…No, Yeah Idaho Artwork Removed https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/07/idaho-college-abortion-artwork-banned?CMP=Share_iOSApp_OtherMeanwhile, not to be outdone because everything is bigger in Texas, a group of women are suing over the texas abortion ban: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/5-women-sue-texas-abortion-bans-lives-put/story?id=97614294Buy or Sell“Florida For All” Is A Winning Message?Adam said this week on Twitter: If Florida wasn't surrounded by beaches and filled with theme parks, it would be Idaho. DeSanits big plan was to make Florida a utopia of some kind and then try and sell that as a national planhttps://www.ocregister.com/2023/03/07/desantis-to-argue-us-should-be-like-fla-ahead-of-2024-bid/?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_content=tw-ocregisterWhat if they realize this gun law if from Florida? https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1633899301075075084?s=46&t=mukZUfs5M_R3E9tAHIu-GARon is too short? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/03/09/presidential-candidates-height-desantis-trump/The Big One2024 Presidential Race! What's the Mt. Rushmore of issues for 2024, and why?  (Deeper dive in last call this is just a brush over)Abortion? Healthcare? Education? Economy? Environment?Pew Research 2022 issues polling from February: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/02/25/state-of-the-union-2022-how-americans-view-major-national-issues/Comparisons of last 30 years - leaving out the 1996 and 2008 elections which are good examples of what a real mismatch can do to the map2020 - Single term loss - https://www.270towin.com/2020_Election/2016 - Trump's map - https://www.270towin.com/2016_Election/2012 - Reelection won - https://www.270towin.com/2012_Election/2004 - Reelection won - https://www.270towin.com/2004_Election/1992 - Single term loss - https://www.270towin.com/1992_Election/2024 – Blowout or Close? 

Co-HostsAdam Sommer @Adam_Sommer85  (Twitter) @adam_sommer85 (Post)Rachel Parker @msraitchetp   (Post)Sean Diller @SeanDillerCO   (Twitter and Post)https://heartlandpod.com/JOIN PATREON FOR MORE - AND JOIN OUR SOCIAL NETWORK!“Change The Conversation”Start With Some Good News From Wisconsin: Democrat Janet Protasiewicz nearly won the seat outright in the first-round, with 44.6 percent of the vote. She is now the favorite to win the runoff. The leading Republican, Daniel Kelly, made the runoff with only 24.2 percent. All told, in the multi-candidate primary election, Democrats won about 54 percent of the votes.https://americanprospect.bluelena.io/index.php?action=social&chash=3c947bc2f7ff007b86a9428b74654de5.1928True or FalseOverreaching By Extreme State Legislatures Will BackfireComing out of Missouri https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/missouri-house-panel-approves-plan-to-place-st-louis-police-under-state-control/article_04bc084a-a539-5e9a-bd70-023355aede1a.ht Yeah…No, Yeah Chicago Mayoral Candidate Paul Vallas Playing The “I got hacked” Cardhttps://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/paul-vallas-controversy-twitter-likes/Times celebs claim “hacked” Link To the "i got hacked" BS Buy or SellColorado's Republican Party Is In Worse Shape Than MO Dem Party.Colorado GOP state chair race now down to three hard core MAGA folkshttps://www.coloradopolitics.com/elections/state-board-of-ed-member-stephen-varela-quits-colorado-gops-state-chair-race/article_d944f2fc-b23c-11ed-ad83-5378912580b1.htmlMichael Butler steps down from MO Dems after a contested reelect to chairThe Big OneSen. Joe Manchin Struggles To Raise Money and Make Up Mindhttps://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/senate/manchin-changed-mind-multiple-times-about-running-fundraising-stallsI just imagine him doing donor calls from his yacht and while standing on a boat that cost more than all of our houses combined saying it's just so hard to raise moneyManchin on Fox News running as hard as he can from the Democratic party - just a nice reminder that the “only in it for the money and power” crew is bipartisanLast Call - Preview (Full Eps. Available On Patreon)National GOP Cracks In The Foundation Are Growinghttps://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/24/judge-rejected-scott-perrys-bid-to-shield-2-000-emails-from-jan-6-investigators-unsealed-filings-show-00084442Rep Perry trying to use the “speech and debate” privilege - it didnt' workPence not going to C-Pac, DeSantis also not going https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mike-pence-declines-invitation-cpac-events-leader-fire/story?id=97451851

Co-HostsAdam Sommer @Adam_Sommer85  (Twitter) @adam_sommer85 (Post)Rachel Parker @msraitchetp   (Post)Sean Diller @SeanDillerCO   (Twitter and Post)https://heartlandpod.com/JOIN PATREON FOR MORE - AND JOIN OUR SOCIAL NETWORK!“Change The Conversation”Start With Some Good News From Wisconsin: Democrat Janet Protasiewicz nearly won the seat outright in the first-round, with 44.6 percent of the vote. She is now the favorite to win the runoff. The leading Republican, Daniel Kelly, made the runoff with only 24.2 percent. All told, in the multi-candidate primary election, Democrats won about 54 percent of the votes.https://americanprospect.bluelena.io/index.php?action=social&chash=3c947bc2f7ff007b86a9428b74654de5.1928True or FalseOverreaching By Extreme State Legislatures Will BackfireComing out of Missouri https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/missouri-house-panel-approves-plan-to-place-st-louis-police-under-state-control/article_04bc084a-a539-5e9a-bd70-023355aede1a.ht Yeah…No, Yeah Chicago Mayoral Candidate Paul Vallas Playing The “I got hacked” Cardhttps://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/paul-vallas-controversy-twitter-likes/Times celebs claim “hacked” Link To the "i got hacked" BS Buy or SellColorado's Republican Party Is In Worse Shape Than MO Dem Party.Colorado GOP state chair race now down to three hard core MAGA folkshttps://www.coloradopolitics.com/elections/state-board-of-ed-member-stephen-varela-quits-colorado-gops-state-chair-race/article_d944f2fc-b23c-11ed-ad83-5378912580b1.htmlMichael Butler steps down from MO Dems after a contested reelect to chairThe Big OneSen. Joe Manchin Struggles To Raise Money and Make Up Mindhttps://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/senate/manchin-changed-mind-multiple-times-about-running-fundraising-stallsI just imagine him doing donor calls from his yacht and while standing on a boat that cost more than all of our houses combined saying it's just so hard to raise moneyManchin on Fox News running as hard as he can from the Democratic party - just a nice reminder that the “only in it for the money and power” crew is bipartisanLast Call - Preview (Full Eps. Available On Patreon)National GOP Cracks In The Foundation Are Growinghttps://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/24/judge-rejected-scott-perrys-bid-to-shield-2-000-emails-from-jan-6-investigators-unsealed-filings-show-00084442Rep Perry trying to use the “speech and debate” privilege - it didnt' workPence not going to C-Pac, DeSantis also not going https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mike-pence-declines-invitation-cpac-events-leader-fire/story?id=97451851

Heartland POD on Twitter - @TheHeartlandPOD Co-HostsAdam Sommer @Adam_Sommer85  (Twitter) @adam_sommer85 (Post)Rachel Parker @msraitchetp   (Post)Sean Diller @SeanDillerCO   (Post)https://heartlandpod.com/JOIN PATREON FOR MORE!“Change The Conversation”Not a segment but… George Santos. The fun never stops! https://www.semafor.com/article/02/02/2023/george-santos-weve-been-secretly-recordedTrue or False Every Democrat needs to study Gov. Laura Kellyhttps://www.kake.com/story/48300173/laura-kelly-announces-integra-technologies-expansion-will-bring-nearly-2000-jobs-to-wichitaState of the state https://kansasreflector.com/2023/01/24/full-transcript-of-kansas-gov-laura-kellys-2023-state-of-the-state-speech/Yeah…No, Yeah Chinese Surveillance Balloon brings out the dumbest & dullestShot down on Sat off coasts of Carolinas Biden clip https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1621966810366050311?s=46&t=SjL8DWkTYeHskbvcl8d6GA JD Vance in his finance bro country weekender gear https://twitter.com/theheartlandpod/status/1621890403392708610?s=46&t=SjL8DWkTYeHskbvcl8d6GAForbes: Trump had a balloon too https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattnovak/2023/02/04/yes-chinese-spy-balloons-flew-over-the-us-when-president-trump-was-in-office-too/China respondshttps://apnews.com/article/ap-news-alert-taipei-china-86027afce2ad5d0536487c360350fa74Trump claims it never happens during HIS adminhttps://www.newsweek.com/trump-never-informed-chinese-balloons-pentagon-congressman-1779069Buy or Sell Missouri Republicans will finally squash the voice of the votershttps://missouriindependent.com/2023/02/01/missouri-house-gives-initial-approval-to-raising-bar-for-voters-to-amend-the-constitution/https://www.kcur.org/politics-elections-and-government/2023-02-03/missouri-gop-cloaks-a-measure-limiting-ballot-initiatives-with-language-about-citizen-only-votingGreat suggestion by gunby https://twitter.com/trishformo/status/1621889852416335872?s=46&t=SjL8DWkTYeHskbvcl8d6GAThe Big One The Big Tobacco treatment of Big Oilhttps://www.semafor.com/article/02/01/2023/the-coming-wave-of-climate-legal-actionEmissions are UP https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-global-co2-emissions-from-fossil-fuels-hit-record-high-in-2022/CASE: https://www.shearman.com/perspectives/2021/06/milieudefensie-v-shell--landmark-court-decision-for-energy-companies

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