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Welcome to another iteration of the Monday Breakfast show, hosted by Rob in the studios of 3CR Community Radio in so-called Fitzroy. On today's show: First up Rob spoke to Madison, a facilitator of the TransCreatives writing support group as well as the managing editor of The TransCreator Zine. The group's aim is to foster, publish and promote TGDNB creativity towards enhancing our community culture. A launch party for the zine is being held on August 2nd at the Affirmation Station on Lygon Street. The interview includes audio promo for the Zine and affiliated writing support group provided by Madison.  TRIGGER WARNING that these next two segments will include mention and discussion about DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, SEXUAL VIOLENCE, AND VIOLENCE IN GENERAL. If you think this content may be distressing, definitely feel free to skip until 1:10:00 into the show. If you need someone to talk to, please call 1800 RESPECT at 1800 737 732, 13YARN at 13 92 76 or QLIFE at 1800 184 527Australia's National Research Organisation for Women's Safety (aka ANROWS) and RMIT's Centre for Innovative Justice are conducting a joint study on intimate partner violence among young people. Shortfalls in knowledge about young people's experiences in this area are, according the Elena Campbell, Associate Director of the Centre for Innovative Justice, hindering responses to it. To find out more about this Rob spoke with Elena. Following that we will be hearing speeches from the Naarm iteration of the National Rally Against Violence organised by What Were You Wearing. The speeches are from: - Bianca and Boyd Unwin, domestic violence advocates who began their advocacy following the brutal murder of Katie Haley in 2018. Katie's sister Biana is using her degrees in Criminology and Psychological Science to call out bad behaviour and poor practice. Katie's father Boyd sees his voice from the male perspective as an important tool to help change men's behaviour and attitudes. Boyd is also a current member on VSAC, the Victim Survivor Advocacy Council. - Madeleine Heather is the creator and host of the victim-centred podcast Reclaim Me, which offers victims and their families space to tell their stories in their own words. Madeleine herself is a victim survivor of child sexual abuse. - Finally we hear Sarah Hayden's speech at the rally. Sarah is a social worker, equine therapist, as well as the mother of Chloe Hayden, who was unable to speak at the rally. Again if you found the above content distressing and need someone to talk to, please call 1800 RESPECT at 1800 737 732, 13YARN at 13 92 76 or QLIFE at 1800 184 527 On two separate occasions, Deakin University has deleted a list of its ties to weapons manufacturers. To explore the university's censorship, Rob interviewed Mimi, an organiser for Students for Palestine Deakin and a student. Songs played: Old Man - Stella Donnelly

Ready to find your sparkle? Chloe Hayden has a tip that'll make you shine brighter than ever. Discover what makes you uniquely awesome and let your inner glow take the spotlight. Time to sparkle up and show the world what you've got! LINKS See more from Chloé Hayden here Follow @novapodcastsofficial on Instagram CREDITS Host: Casey Donovan @caseydonovan88 Writer: Amy Molloy @amymolloy Producer: Adair SheppardEditor: Adrian Walton  Listen to more great podcasts at novapodcasts.com.au   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HortWeek is delighted to present the Cultivate Your Future podcast, in partnership with the Colegrave Seabrook Foundation and sponsors MorePeople.At a time when horticulture needs to encourage a new wave of young people to come into the industry, this podcast is designed to highlight the multiple and varied career opportunities available.Hear from people who have found their way into their chosen career through different paths, what their job involves and what it means to them.In this podcast from the Colegrave Seabrook Foundation, trustee Neville Stein hosts a discussion with Level 2 Horticulture students from Sparsholt College in Hampshire.Sparsholt College teamed up with The Colegrave Seabrook Foundation to create Sparsholt's 2024 RHS Chelsea Flower Show Discovery entry display entitled ‘Plants, Routes & Branches'.We hear from Chloe, Hayden, Jessica and Joshua as they prepare to build and promote their Chelsea Flower Show exhibit. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

If you struggle with rejection sensitive dysphoria (RSD), navigating social media can be complicated.  Social media is both a place where many neurodivergent individuals are able to find connection and be seen, but it can also be a place where impulsivity and reactiveness can run rampant, both on the giving and receiving end of online conversations and posts. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, delve deep into the complex relationship between social media, rejection sensitive dysphoria (RSD), setting boundaries, and mental well-being. Top 3 reasons to listen to the entire episode: Understand how to address RSD burnout with social media, as well as the important role that boundary-setting plays in helping you show up online with reduced intensity of RSD. Hear about some ways that Autistic individuals may experience social media differently, and even more positively, than allistic people and neurotypicals. Learn some RSD-symptom-reducing strategies to check yourself and check in with others when you are struggling with fear of being misunderstood. As you navigate the complexities of social media, remember to check in with yourself and establish your boundaries for the way you interact with others online and who you allow into your space. Don't be afraid to unfollow someone or snooze posts from a friend. Make it your priority to protect your mental well-being and engage in a healthier way. Resources plus Exclusive Coupon Code Dr. Neff's Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria Workbook Bundle (Clinical Use): https://neurodivergentinsights.com/neurodivergentstore/p/rejection-sensitive-dysphoria-clinical  Dr. Neff's Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria Workbook Bundle (Personal Use): https://neurodivergentinsights.com/neurodivergentstore/p/rejection-sensitive-dysphoria-bundle Use Code: “DivergentConversationsListener” To get 20% off anything in the shop, including the RSD bundle.  Dr. Neff's free blog posts on RSD: https://neurodivergentinsights.com/blog/category/Rejection+Sensitive+Dysphoria  The EFT attachment infinity loop can be downloaded here: https://neurodivergentinsights.com/couples-resources   A Thanks to Our Sponsor, Tula Consulting! ✨ Tula Consulting: We would love to thank Tula Consulting for sponsoring this episode. Workplace communication can be messy. Considering the lens of neurodiversity can be helpful for understanding this. Maybe you found yourself frustratedly typing "per my last email" in an office communication, perplexed about how a colleague or client doesn't seem to understand your very clearly written email. Consider this. Visual information processing isn't everyone's strength. Perhaps a quick call could make a world of difference. Or how about including a video or voice message with your email? And this technology exists! Simple steps like these can make your work environment more accessible and bring out the best in everyone. Tula Consulting is on a mission to help organizations build more neuro-inclusive products and work environments. Tula does this by bringing curious minds to solve curious problems. Find out more by visiting tulaneurodiversity.org.   Transcript PATRICK CASALE: All right. So, last week we talked about RSD from a very basic foundational level, and we asked for questions, and we got a ton. And we want to address the ones that we can today. So, Megan and I are going to sort through these, and we have some that we definitely want to do deeper dives on. We appreciate everyone submitting them. And it's definitely a really important topic. And I think one that we could have a lot of conversation around. MEGAN NEFF: Absolutely. Just side note, like, I'm really liking this Q&A format podcasts. We should do more of them. It gives us structure, which is actually kind of nice for a change. PATRICK CASALE: Yeah, I think when we introduce, like, topics, and then we can always ask for questions for follow-up so that we have episode ideas and keep the audience engaged too. MEGAN NEFF: Yeah, structured chaos. Okay. PATRICK CASALE: Yes [INDISCERNIBLE 00:00:56] when we started this. MEGAN NEFF: Should we start with some of the easier questions or dive into the hard ones? PATRICK CASALE: Oh, Megan. Where's my brain out today? Everywhere. MEGAN NEFF: I need a slow warm-up, my brain is still warming up. Let's start with some of the more concrete or easier-to-answer questions. PATRICK CASALE: So, I'm looking at the questions that we have. Where would you like to start? I think maybe one is how to open social media, again, when scared of RSD hangover days. MEGAN NEFF: Oh, yeah. PATRICK CASALE: I think this is a good question, because we spoke a lot about, like, entrepreneurial RSD. But this is more specifically for anyone who is just experiencing RSD and having to show up on social media. MEGAN NEFF: Absolutely, yeah. I think social media for probably anyone with RSD, if you're at all posting or commenting is going to be a really anxiety inducing experience open. I just watched like a one hour kind of training on this from Lionni Dawson. They are a autistic ADHD entrepreneur in Australia. And, first of all, just if you're an entrepreneur, you should check out their work because it's fantastic. But they had a one hour kind of training explicitly on kind of rejection, social media. And there was some other entrepreneur stuff, but there's a lot of stuff that could be applied. So, like one of thing she said that I love was, I think there's a visual, like, a bird in nature. And she was like, "You know, if I'm walking through nature, like, a bird doesn't just yell at me like, 'You asshole.' But on social media, right? Like…" Or not a bird, okay, I'm totally mixing visuals. She's like a person or bird, I don't know, people in real life don't just yell at you you're an asshole. But that sort of interaction, like, does happen in social media spaces. So, I think, one, just having this lens of the kinds of conversation that tend to happen in digital spaces when, you know, we're more removed from the humanity of the other, it does more easily take on kind of a toxic bend. So, I think just having that framework around our interaction with social media and digital spaces, in general, is really important. And then there's kind of a criteria she walks through of like, who is this coming from? Right? Is this like, an asshole on the internet who's just trolling? Or is this a friend and you're like, you want to consider it? But actually having a system for like this feedback I'm getting is hard. Like, who is this coming from? And considering that. So, I would just say, whatever your system is having some sort of process around how you engage social media, and contextualizing it, contextualizing these interactions that are happening, and then to figuring out like, is this how you want to be interacting socially with people? I encourage people to do like a week break and see what their mental real estate is like. For some of us as neurodivergent people, like we form some of our deepest connections digitally. But I do think we need to pay attention to how we're doing that, what spaces feel generative, what spaces don't. I realize this is way more like bird's eye view than like what to actually do when you're opening the app. This is more kind of meta how to have a relationship with social media in a healthy way. But I think when you have RSD, you just have to be thinking about these things more intentionally. PATRICK CASALE: Yeah, I think that sounds like good advice. And I'm almost thinking about, like, taking a step back and like putting different responses from different people in different buckets. Like, waiting the responses more or less because you're right, if you're walking down the street, someone is probably not going to scream that at you. I mean, most likely. But when you can type whatever you want, and just put it out into the world without really any repercussions a lot of the time. It really does create this social dynamic where it's quite polarizing and society is quite torn in so many directions. So, the likelihood of being trolled or just having people disagree with you, or have to jump in just to say something because they want to say something that can certainly lead to a response, and a shutdown, and more anxiety, and overwhelm. So, I think if you're able to, like you said, step back, contextualize, take a look at who you want to be having conversation and relationship with. And I agree with you wholeheartedly. Like, some of my deepest formed connections are via the internet and social media, some of whom I've never met in person like [CROSSTALK 00:05:49]- MEGAN NEFF: Yeah, like you and I wouldn't exist, this podcast wouldn't exist without social media. Like, I think I literally met you, I saw your podcasts with Joel. And I think it was in a Facebook group, and then we connected on Instagram. Like you and I would not know each other, this would not exist without social media, yeah. PATRICK CASALE: No, and I consider you one of my closest friends that is in my circle of people right now. But I wonder if we could ever get into, like, the existentialism and the layers that come with having to create like more of a callous skin or approach to social media. But I also acknowledge that social media plays a major factor in my business, so I know that I have to like sift through and experience some rejection at times too. And I've learned to deal with that before the common human, who's not a therapist, who's not entrepreneurial, who's not on social media for business, but is just on there for connection, it can feel like there is an inability to create community if it feels like there's just constantly rejection every time you open up Facebook, or Instagram, or whatever platform you like to be on. MEGAN NEFF: Absolutely, absolutely. Okay, I'm going to give a few more anchoring concepts. There's this idea from social psychology called upward comparison. This sounds really twisted. Every time I say it, I can't say it with a straight face. But what the research shows is we tend to do best when we do more downward comparison than upward comparison. This is why like, it sounds so like cringy of like, intentionally compare yourself to people who are doing less well than you. I don't love that as a like intervention strategy or practice. But I do think it's important to be aware of how much of your energy is spent in upward comparison. And social media is built for a lot of upward comparison, right? If people are posting like the highlights of their life, and you're comparing the, like, mundane moments to that, like we could talk about like how many likes, how many comments, but even just the experience, as in other people's highlights, and then filling in… Like your mind fills in the stories, that can also create or trigger RSD of just like, "Look at what all these other people are doing and are able to do." So, I think being aware of social comparison and upward comparison when engaging with social media is really important. The other thing, you know, boundaries, I think, become really important. What are your boundaries? Getting clear around that. When you post things, do you have comments on? Do you not? Do you get into hard conversations in social media spaces? Or do you not? Do you say, "Hey, this would be better in an email or this would be better in a phone call." So figuring out what your boundaries are. And then the third thing, impulsivity, right? A lot of us have impulsivity. Like, there's like a breathalyzer for phones where, like, some people will do… Have you heard of this where like, you have to breathe into your phone to be not drunk to- PATRICK CASALE: Like, there's [INDISCERNIBLE 00:09:02] you know, impulsively send drunk text messages and things that get them into trouble the next day. So, yeah. MEGAN NEFF: I feel like we need like a filter like that for like impulsivity, of like, how am I going to feel about this comment in 30 minutes tomorrow, especially if we're in a heated dialogue or if there's a lot going on socio-politically? Just knowing that we're more likely to have those impulsive comments come out, and then to consider your future self, which again, is going to take, I think, intentional practice for us because it's not something a lot of us do naturally of like, how am I going to feel about this comment tomorrow? How am I going to feel about people's feedback to this if I'm putting something out there that is, you know, one of those like hot ideas. PATRICK CASALE: I'm glad you named that because I actually found myself in that situation within my Facebook group last week, and I'm not going to go into the dynamics because the issues at play are just polarizing on all sides, and there's trauma and damage being done all around worldwide. So, I'm just alluding to something without alluding to it. And I had to step back and pause my Facebook group for two and a half days because I was mentally unwell. And I was struggling to keep up with comments, and like moderate, ensure that everyone was talking to each other respectfully as adults and as therapists, which doesn't seem like something I should have to do. But I also then realized I'm like, "Okay, this group is a purpose for like, how do we help each other through entrepreneurial journeys, and it's turning into something that I don't want it to be. How do we address all things? Right? And also, how do we show up authentically? How do we stand by our values?" So, I decided I will turn comments on limited comments. So, someone can only respond every five minutes, right? Including myself, which means that you have to take [CROSSTALK 00:10:53]- MEGAN NEFF: I love that. Yeah, you have to…Yes, yes. Yeah, because that like posting in a reactive space, that's where a lot of these things kind of pile on. And so I love that, like a forced kind of nervous system break between posts. I didn't know that was possible, yeah. PATRICK CASALE: Yeah. So, I turned on the limited comments, right? So, someone can only comment every five minutes. This allows me as the host, and the moderator, and the human to step back and breathe. This allows whoever is feeling really charged up to step back and breathe. And I think we can implement, like you said, these boundaries that allow for us to take that step back, to take that breath, to not respond impulsively. And also, not to react impulsively because that's what's happening in this world where we have information at the tip of our fingertips, and we can just respond to anything and any everything all the time. MEGAN NEFF: Absolutely. And then when we do that, and we have RSD, like, and we look back, and we're like, because I've definitely had that experience of like I'm in my reaction, and I am being impulsive. And afterwards, I'm like, "Oh, shit." And I replay the dialogue over and over and over. And, like, I don't feel like myself in those moments. And those moments become like kind of raw spots of shame. And so it's not just protecting kind of others from our spewing reactivity, but it's also protecting ourself of like how we're going to hold that memory and that whatever feelings or shame we have about how we acted in that moment. So, it's also protective of our future selves. PATRICK CASALE: Absolutely, 100%. And I think there are other things you can do too to create these boundaries. Like, you can hit the unfollow button on groups or on people that are not creating that feeling of safety, or energy, or connection. You can snooze people for 30 days. One of my favorite things to do is hit the snooze button. I have snoozed so many damn people that I did forget to unsnooze- MEGAN NEFF: I didn't know that was a thing. Okay- PATRICK CASALE: [CROSSTALK 00:13:03] and then also they come back up, I'm like, "Oh shit, I need to snooze them again." MEGAN NEFF: I just came up with an exercise. We should have everyone listen to this do this and you, and I should do it. Like, to log into a social media account very intentionally with a very specific lens, like a emotion nervous system lens, and to scroll but the thing you're paying attention to is what happens to you like when you see that content right? Is there activation? Is there anger? Is there like, "Oh I feel connected, and understood, and known." And yeah, to potentially like unfollow based on, I mean, that might sound harsh, but yeah, just based on like paying attention to what is your body telling you as you look at this content, and then is that someone you want to follow? I know on Facebook it feels a little bit more personal. Like, oh my goodness, this person unfollowed me or we're not friends anymore. So, I know that gets a little… But that's maybe where the snooze button's helpful. PATRICK CASALE: Well, the beauty of unfollow/snooze is not unfriend. There's a differentiation here, right? So, like, hitting unfollow means they'll never see your stuff again. But we're still friends. Like, they don't know that- MEGAN NEFF: I don't know Facebook very well anymore. PATRICK CASALE: Yeah, I spend too much time on Facebook, sadly. And that's where like the bulk of my work and audience comes from. And then there's the snooze button where it's like, I don't want to see these groups, or these messages, or these people for 30 days, and sometimes just simply hitting that button. And that would be the mute button on Instagram where you can mute and hide stories and posts from people too, but you don't unfollow them. And this allows for you to maintain the relationship, but just because you have a social media relationship does not mean that it's healthy for you to see their content, see their messages, see their posts every day. And if it's causing you harm, especially, if you're doing the exercise that Megan just suggested, it's a great opportunity to give yourself that detox experience or that ability to step away cleanly without hurting anyone's feelings, without like disconnecting from someone that you may have to have interaction with. So, I think it's important to always prioritize your energy first, because this stuff can really get on top of you and it can be quite depleting, and honestly, traumatizing. MEGAN NEFF: Absolutely. The other thing, I'm thinking way more basic here, but things like something I see come up a lot is like when you post something, and there's no comments or likes, like there's not feedback. And that's an RSD trigger, also. Like if you say an idea in a meeting, and it just like drops, and no one comes back to it. I would think having some self-affirmations, maybe we can make like self-affirmations for social media, that'd be cool content. But things like having some mantras of like, you know, how many likes I get on this post, like, doesn't represent how many people in my life care about me, or doesn't represent my worth, or my value. And so if those are the things that trigger you, I would actually work on developing or finding some self-affirmations that you could have, and have them on hand so that they can be front and center when the RSD story wants to take over your brain, you can kind of bring those back to mind. The thing with mantras and positive mantras that I always say, especially, for neurodivergent people, we have to believe them. If we don't believe them, they're probably going to make us feel worse. And sometimes it's hard for us to find mantras that we actually believe. PATRICK CASALE: Absolutely. I like that idea. I also love the idea, this may sound basic and simple. But I heart every single one of my posts that I make on Facebook and Instagram, and it just allows me to feel like, okay, I made this post, I made this content, I feel proud about it, so I like it. And like I've had other people start to mention like, "I've started liking my own posts, and it makes me feel significantly better about putting it out to the world." I'm like, "Yeah." I think that there are these little subtle psychological things that you can do to offset that worry, and that concern, that overwhelm. I also wonder like, how much of RSD… I don't know if there's any research about this at all, and I'd be curious, is connected to the RAS, the reticulating activating system, the part of the brain that was developed to kind of like mediate risk-taking behavior, and kind of tells you like, "Hey, there's danger ahead. Don't do that thing. Don't post that thing. Don't pursue that thing. You know, don't experience that thing, because it's risky, or it's scary." And, you know, I think the best way for me when I'm in these moments of like, major rejection sensitive dysphoria, I didn't just say that, right? MEGAN NEFF: You did. [CROSSTALK 00:17:53]. It feels like you should. Yeah, yeah. PATRICK CASALE: I should say, it feels like it should say sensation. I don't know why I feel that way. MEGAN NEFF: Or it feels like it shouldn't be rejection sensitivity dysphoria, I actually used to call it that. But it's technically rejection sensitive dysphoria, which doesn't feel right coming out of my mouth. PATRICK CASALE: I know. MEGAN NEFF: That's the technical term that's been used, I know. PATRICK CASALE: [CROSSTALK 00:18:10] rejection sensitivity dysphoria many times and I'm like, no, that's- MEGAN NEFF: I actually think I have it in print as that and then only in my last round of research was like, "Oops, that's wrong." PATRICK CASALE: Right. I don't even know what I was saying, doesn't matter. MEGAN NEFF: You were talking about fear, and inhibition, and RSD. PATRICK CASALE: Yes, that, and that, and that. Oh, yeah, when I'm in these moments, when I'm experiencing RSD, when I'm noticing being really, like, critical of myself, really taking to heart what other people are saying, or not doing, or how I'm experiencing feedback, I've got to get out and move. Like creativity and just being in movement and grounding myself, whether it be in nature, or going for a walk, or just getting out of this space because I think a lot of the times that RSD space, that energy, that actual physical presence of like feeling stuck and confined in it, if I can just put my phone down or my laptop in my house, leave the technology behind, go for a walk for an hour, like, just go do something else away from it, it really does allow me to center, and ground, and just regulate. MEGAN NEFF: I love that. I love that. Yeah, I often will, like, use the metaphor of like burning excess energy. And that's very much what it feels like when I have a RSD trigger. Like, I just feel like so much energy. And so, absolutely, if I can channel it towards something like a walk or something that's more grounding, that helps me move through that energy more. I'm still going to have the intrusive thoughts, I'm still going to have the rumination, and I have other strategies for that, but getting the kind of stress, anxious energy out is so important, which is why, again, back to social media, right? Like, you could be in class opening your phone and you see something that activates, or like right before a business meeting, then you've got all this energy and you're supposed to be sitting and focused. So, that's probably another, like, thinking through when do I open this? Would be another consideration. I also, yeah- PATRICK CASALE: And that would mean a good way you mentioned boundaries, you can put those restrictions on your phone, right? If you notice, like I am impulsively or compulsively checking my phone at these times, and it's creating distress, let's say it's in class, or at work, or whatever, put the boundary or limitation on the app that says like, I can't open this from this time to this time. At least, that gives you that, like, accountability check when it's like, oh, I click on Instagram and it tells me, "But you have it turned off for the next six hours." And I'm like, "Okay, now I have to make the conscious decision of do I want to continue on to Instagram? Or do I want to realize I need to step away from this for a reason because it's for my own mental health?" MEGAN NEFF: Absolutely, absolutely. Okay, I'm kind of decentering from this conversation to have another conversation, I'm noticing that we're like, let's start with a simple question. And we're like 20 minutes into talking about RSD in social media. And I think there's a reason we're still talking about it. I kind of wonder if we want to make this whole episode about that, and have RSD in three parts. So, it's a huge topic. So, do you want to just keep this conversation and we can get to the more complicated questions in episode three? Cool? PATRICK CASALE: Works for me. Yeah. And, you know, I think it's also, this topic, we're probably gravitating more towards the social media topic because that's where we spend a lot of our time. Not just for our businesses, like we mentioned, but for our communities, for connection. And I think that's really challenging. Like we mentioned, the connection piece, especially, for those of us who are neurodivergent, or introverted who have a hard time going out into the world and being social or our sensory systems are just overloaded constantly, if we're working from home, especially, we're probably spending a lot of time on the internet. MEGAN NEFF: Oh, yeah, absolutely. So much of our life is spent in digital space, which is why like, narratives like social media is good or bad, like, just don't work because it's like, well, no, it is. And then it's like, let's have more nuanced conversations about how we use it, about our relationship to this, about when we have these social interactions through this container of digital space what does that do to the like, relationship, to the interaction? Like, it's so much more complex than is this thing that we have good or bad? It actually reminds me, there's a study that just came out, and I've read the abstract, and I've skimmed it, but I haven't read it in detail yet. But it's a really interesting study. So, it's looking at autistic teens, and depression and anxiety. And so this is well-known in the research, right? Social media, and teen like depression, anxiety, like social media use tends to increase depression, anxiety. So, they did a study and they looked at autistic teens versus non-autistic teens. What they found was that for non-autistic teens, like how much a person was using social media, or maybe it was digital, maybe it was screens. I think it was more broadly with screens, increased depression, anxiety, but for autistic people, it didn't it. In fact, I think it decreased it, and then where the researchers get it is autistic people are using digital space differently. They're using the internet differently. And I thought that was so interesting. And I want to do more of a deep dive into that. But I'm also curious, I mean, we've been talking a lot about the ADHD experience. I'd be curious, like, yeah, how are autistic people using digital space differently in a way that is maybe helpful for mental health or at least less harmful? PATRICK CASALE: Yeah, I'm actually thinking of an example. I had my first major throat surgery two years ago. And I remember, like, laying in the hospital bed, like recovering and obviously, can't speak, because I'm like recovering and just had throat surgery. But I'm also isolated, right? Like, I'm just laying on the hospital bed. And I know that I'm going to be there for the next three days. And I was online, I was in my Facebook group and I was like, talking, and just sharing updates, and whatever. And several people were like, "Hey, you're supposed to be recovering. Like, you should get off of social media." Hence, like the social media is bad phenomenon/reality. And I got really like reactive/defensive in a way where I was like, "But this is how I connect with the world. This is not taking energy from me, this is actually energizing me to feel a part of something that I've created opposed to feeling isolated and alone, laying on this hospital bed for the next three days." Like, yeah. MEGAN NEFF: I love that. And that I feel like really gets at the heart of it, which I would say is belonging, like humans have an innate need to belong. Social psychologists have really picked this up in the last handful of years of, you know, adding into some of like Freudians innate drives, when he would say an innate drive is to belong. And there's actually been some interesting research that what they demonstrated was that a lot of anxiety, and a lot of pathological anxiety, because anxiety is not always pathological is connected to this need to belong. So, this is such an innate, built in need in us. So, that's what I hear you saying in that moment is like, "Wait, no, like I need to tap into belonging as part of my recovery. And that is what I am getting from this space." PATRICK CASALE: Absolutely. And I don't know if I was able to communicate it that succinctly. But what I did notice is like, I got immediately reactive, I started to feel very defensive. And I think this goes back to, maybe this is core as well for a lot of us who are neurodivergent, is not only that we need belonging, humans need belonging, absolutely, we need connection, we need to feel a part of. Like, that is just in our biology, in our genetic makeup. We need to feel seen, too. And I think that so often we do not feel seen, and we do feel overlooked, and we do feel like someone misses the mark of what we're trying to get across, or what we're trying to emphasize. And I know for me, that feeling is really where I shut down, that's really where I experience a lot of shame, that's really where I experience some self-loathing is when I'm trying to get a point across or where I'm trying to express myself. And it's just missing the mark, and the person is just not seeing it the way that I'm trying to communicate it. And I think that for me, that is a lot of, if we're talking about the autistic experience, a lot of what I'm experiencing in these moments when we're talking about RSD. MEGAN NEFF: We are experiencing the absence of being seen, of being missing. PATRICK CASALE: Yeah. MEGAN NEFF: Yeah, yeah, yeah. PATRICK CASALE: [CROSSTALK 00:27:28] situations, this can happen in appointments, this can happen in social experiences. MEGAN NEFF: I almost want to tease that out, but I mean, I think it is part of RSD, but that like experience of being misperceived. Something I've noticed, this is a clinical observation, I haven't necessarily seen research on this, but that I've noticed autistic people, many of them really don't like just the experience of being perceived, of knowing I can be perceived and knowing, you know, if I go on a walk someone can see me, if I am doing a performance, someone can see me, just see experience of being perceived. And I wonder how much of that… I mean, I think there's a lot of reasons for that. But I wonder how much of that goes back to like how frequently we are misperceived and how painful that is? PATRICK CASALE: Yeah, that makes sense to me. MEGAN NEFF: Just your reactivity makes sense too. Like, I was just thinking about like, how sad that is. Like, you went to this group because it was a place you do feel belonging. And then I know they weren't trying to tell you you're doing something bad, but I imagine that's kind of how you took it in to feel so unseen in that moment, when what you were getting out of the group was belonging, but then to be misperceived in your attempt to find connection and belonging. PATRICK CASALE: Yeah, I think it was like the situation, right? Like, I'm the moderator of All Things Private Practice. So, I set the stage, I set the tone, I create all the engagement, all the interaction, and I probably had a lead up to surgery of like, I'm going to be away from this group for a while because I'm having a throat surgery. I'm not going to participate, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then immediately, like, several hours after surgery, I'm like participating in said group. And people are probably coming from a place of like, "Oh, we're trying to look out for you, you said you were going to be recovering." So, I think it was an inability on my part to explain like, this is what I need right now. And I think that created this intense sensation of frustration. And like, I was not able to explicitly communicate my needs in that moment and just was hoping that people would just be like, "Yeah, let's talk about, you know, whatever." MEGAN NEFF: Which that's probably like a really powerful takeaway, right? That part of neurodivergent people finding belonging and feeling seen is the ability to articulate what we need, because what we need in any given moment might not be kind of the status quo. Like right now I need space, or right now I need a hug, or right now I need to engage in this digital conversation and that this is actually helpful for me. So, A, getting clarity about what our needs are and B, finding comfortable ways to communicate that. I think that absolutely wraps into the belonging conversation- PATRICK CASALE: For sure MEGAN NEFF: …of being seen. PATRICK CASALE: I want to model like, healthy communication around RSD as well, if you are okay with me sharing some behind the scenes of our friendship, and dynamic, and relationship. MEGAN NEFF: Sure. Yes. My anxiety just went up- PATRICK CASALE: Oh, no anxiety. MEGAN NEFF: …but like, I love this about [CROSSTALK 00:30:53]- PATRICK CASALE: I want to just like model it for people too. MEGAN NEFF: Okay. PATRICK CASALE: So, Megan, and I obviously share an Instagram account. And then we collaborate on posts for said podcast. MEGAN NEFF: Oh, my gosh. I almost texted you last night. Is this about last night? PATRICK CASALE: Yeah. But I want to frame it from last night's perspective to six months ago perspective. MEGAN NEFF: Okay. PATRICK CASALE: So, Megan's Instagram audience is significantly larger than my Instagram audience. It's a big source of your business and community. So, when we first started this podcast, we'd send collaboration invites, Megan would accept them. Well, half the time accept them, half the time not. MEGAN NEFF: Accept them on Fridays, I have a very specific schedule I stick to. PATRICK CASALE: And then she would remove herself from said collaboration. And I would get the notification like, Neurodivergent Insights has removed collaboration, whatever it says, And I'm like, "What the fuck?" And then I would say, "Okay, I respect Megan, and I appreciate our relationship. I cannot have this resentment/frustration or confusion." So, we talked about it. But I was definitely in RSD moment where I was like, Megan doesn't want to do this anymore together. I said something wrong. The video content isn't up to her standards, whatever the narrative was in my head, and then we talked about it. And you're like, "No, this is just how my brain works. And this is how I need my grid to look. And this is how I need my post to look." And I was like, "Oh, that makes a lot more sense. Like, it's not me, it's not us, we're still having a good podcast relationship and friendship." And that happened again last night. But I did not experience it the way I experienced it six months ago, because we talked about it. So, for those of you who are able to have these types of conversations, I think it's very useful in relationships, whether it be friendships, professional, intimate relationships. I think the struggle is for those of you who feel like you're not able to express this in a way where you're going to feel seen, heard, validated, or understood. And that's the part I would like to tease out too, is for those of you who feel like, I can't do that with people, I don't have access that way, or don't have the ability to communicate it in a way that's going to lead to feeling like we resolve these feelings or emotions. MEGAN NEFF: Absolutely. First, I love that you brought that up part. Like I did. I almost texted you last night to explain because like my profile grid right now, it's like divergent conversations, the middle column, and, you know, I'm autistic, I like… So, I almost texted you that I was like, "Oh, I don't want him to think." Yeah. But I love that that came up. So, a term popped in my head when you were talking that just like came to me, relational reality testing. I think when we have RSD, that when we have those relationships that can sustain that we're going to be like, "Oh, this happened and I want to check in around it." Can be so helpful, not just for that relationship. But it starts creating, I guess, like evidence or a narrative of like, "Oh, right, my mind is not always telling me an accurate story, or a helpful story." And so having those experiences. And then so for those situations where there's not enough trust to do that relational reality testing, if we can and have done those in relationships that are safe enough, where there's enough trust to do that, I think we can draw on those moments of like, you know, this last week this happened and my mind started telling this story and I found out it was actually about them. Maybe something similar is happening here, so we can kind of talk yourself through that perspective, I guess that perspective taking or that reality testing of like, maybe it's not about me. Like, we need a Taylor Swift song that's like opposite of the problem is me to like maybe it's not me. We need some catchy like, maybe it's not me song out there. PATRICK CASALE: I love that. I think I like that term a lot too. And I think that's perfect to describe. And you talked about this last week where we were like, take a step back, be the detective, or the investigator, hear about your brain and what your brain and your thoughts are doing right. So, like, I think it's important to look at it that way. Also that it makes me divergent to another celebrity. I shot my shot for both of us with Chloe Hayden and her Instagram. She's an autistic celebrity, author, podcast host [INDISCERNIBLE 00:35:20]. Nevertheless, they responded, which I thought was really cool. And I was like, "Oh, man, maybe I can get them on his podcast." But sadly, not. Chloe's commitments take her away from- MEGAN NEFF: Did that activate your RSD? PATRICK CASALE: No, I never expected a response. So, it was actually like, "Oh, cool. At least you read this." I also shot my shot with Dr. Devin Price, have not heard back. MEGAN NEFF: Well, speaking of social media boundaries, he's someone who has really good boundaries. And so, like, actually, I think I was inspired by him. Like, I don't know if it's changed. But back when I was more on there, like he rarely had comments on if ever. I don't think he does DM so I'm not surprised we didn't hear back. And I think it's partly because of those rock solid boundaries that he models and has. PATRICK CASALE: Yep, I agree 100% because that's the message I got. DMs are not allowed to this account. So, you know, I will continue to try. MEGAN NEFF: Yes, probably, I would guess email would be [INDISCERNIBLE 00:36:30]. PATRICK CASALE: Yeah, I tried to find it, couldn't find that but- MEGAN NEFF: That's probably also smart. PATRICK CASALE: Boundaries are important. And I think that Megan is someone who really has good boundaries. Like your email, auto response, your social media comments turned off for the most part. Like, you are protecting yourself and your energy. And I think that that's a big part of this, right? So, the ability to take that step back, create the boundaries that work for you, remove the interactions that are causing you harm, or distress, and trying to figure out how to channel that energy, like you said, that excess energy that you can have when you're in this RSD space, because we do need to burn it off in some way. Otherwise, it can destroy you in those moments. And it can lead to impulsivity, it can lead to things that you would like to take back, it can lead to destruction in relationships too that you care about. MEGAN NEFF: Absolutely, it can. Yeah, yeah. That was a beautiful summary, like paragraph, and I kind of just want to end it there. But I feel like I'm going to ruin it, because I had a thought, I had an association. PATRICK CASALE: Go ahead. MEGAN NEFF: I think we often have to work through some of our RSD to be able to create boundaries. I think the reason I waited till I was absolutely burnt out, overwhelmed, and struggling with health before I put up boundaries was partly because of my RSD of like, but people will be upset, but I won't be accessible. But like, that made it hard for me to go into digital spaces with boundaries. Or I have to respond to every email, right? Like, because of the RSD. So, that's a tricky thing here. Boundaries are really helpful for RSD, but we have to work through a level of it to be able to cultivate those boundaries, or just get burnt out enough that like you're like, "Okay, fuck it, boundaries." PATRICK CASALE: That's where I got to. I mean, I learned some from you, you know, and your boundaries. But I got to, and I'm glad you just named that because that's honestly very, very important. It allows for us to not minimize the experience. Like, I think that you have to work through it to create the boundaries for sure, or be working on it. And you may be working on it, because like you said, you get to the place where it's like, "Fuck it, I don't care." And that's the place I got to for a while. And maybe that's the place I'm in is like when I meet with my therapist, she's like, "So, the ADHD part wants to create, create, create, the autistic part looks at the calendar and, you know, is already exhausted and frustrated about the planning." But then I got to this place where both parts had no interest in doing any of it. And I think that was the fuck it moment where it was like, "Yeah, I'm not I'm not responding to every DM, or consult request, or email anymore. I'm just going to respond with blanket statements or referrals outward because I just cannot do it. And it's unfortunate that so many of us have to get to that place, because there's so much connection, we talked about attachment systems last week with feeling useful, feeling responsive, having value based on feeling responsive or useful, working through that internalized sensation of I'm not going to be valuable, I'm not going to be useful, people aren't going to think of me, people aren't going to want to connect with me if I put these boundaries in place. So, it's a lot of unlearning. And it's a lot of healing when you're working through how to navigate this process. MEGAN NEFF: Absolutely, absolutely. If there is one gift to burnout, and I feel weird, calling it a gift, maybe growth edge to burnout, it is, if it propels you to build a life that works for you, right? Like so many of us, the life we're living doesn't work for us, and we get burnt out. And if the pattern is like, live that life, burnout, kind of recover, go back to that life. Like, that's just going to be a perpetual cycle. But if that burnout is the thing, that's fine. Like, okay, I've got to do something different here. And if that becomes the instigator for cultivating a life that works, and like boundaries are a big part of that, that is, yeah, I guess, kind of the gift of burnout. And again, I feel we're using any kind of gift language with burnout, because it's atrocious, but… PATRICK CASALE: I think it's illuminating in a lot of ways, though. I think it kind of is illuminating into what your next steps are, when you get to that level of burnout, where it's like, fuck it, I don't care anymore. I have to set these boundaries, otherwise, the results are XYZ. MEGAN NEFF: It's kind of like grief. Like, I think about those moments in life that break you wide open, which are those moments that invite you into transformation if you can accept that invitation. And like grief absolutely does that. I would say burnout also does that. PATRICK CASALE: Agreed. Well, I think that you just added to my summation perfectly. So, for those of you listening, lots of good takeaways here, and things that you can implement. I hope we answered the one question that we set out to answer- MEGAN NEFF: One of the questions we got to. PATRICK CASALE: DR. MEGAN NEFF: We start with the easy question and talk for an hour. Divergent Conversations is out every Friday on all major platforms and YouTube, and we will do part three, simultaneously. Goodbye.

Sarah's eldest daughter Chloe Hayden (Heartbreak High) was 13 when she was diagnosed with autism, and Sarah felt like she'd let her down.  Sarah pulled her out of school and started homeschooling her - only to watch her blossom!  Chloe is now a successful actor (as is her younger brother Hunter) and Sarah chats to Yvie today about their family. Including Sarah's 5 kids, over 55 children that they fostered, her ADHD diagnosis as an adult and her work as a social worker.  LINKS Yvie Jones @yvie_jones Sarah Hayden @mama_slayden Nova Podcasts Instagram @novapodcastsofficial Don't forget you can ask us a question anytime by emailing twogirls@novaentertainment.com.au CREDITSHost: Yvie Jones Guest: Sarah Hayden  Executive Producer: Rachael Hart Producer: Amy Kimball Editor: Adrian Walton Supervising Producer: Ricardo Bardon Show Artwork By: @ellymalone Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we recorded this podcast, Wurundjeri people of the Kulin Nation, and the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respect to Elders past and present. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Chloe had always felt like a bit of an alien. She just didn't really get most other kids, and they didn't get her either. When she learned she was autistic, she started writing about the world through her eyes, and she found lots of fans who had similar brains. But when she took on a role never seen before on a teen TV show, she helped autistic people feel seen for who they really are. Written and narrated by 14-year-old Eva Tigten-Knott.

The Wheeler Centre's Spring Fling returns for 2023 and this year we're going Above and Beyond. From October 2 to 14 we're celebrating the big ideas and the small moments that make us human, and the creative thinking that drives us to be better versions of ourselves. Across 24 captivating events we're looking further, delving deeper, and asking bigger questions with outstanding thinkers who are reshaping our world and envisioning extraordinary futures. To celebrate the return of Spring Fling, in this episode we revisit 2022's inaugural Opening Night gala event at Melbourne Town Hall, where a star-studded lineup of writers shared a personal ‘lightbulb moment', reflecting on a defining shift that changed their mind, sparked a big idea or helped them blossom. Enjoy this highlight from disability advocate and Heartbreak High star Chloe Hayden. Tickets to Spring Fling 2023 are on sale now. Explore the full program at wheelercentre.com including details of this year's Opening Night: Above and Beyond at Melbourne Town Hall on Wednesday 4th of October featuring Jelena Dokic, Thomas Mayo, Melissa Lucashenko, Hannah Diviney, Rufaro Zimbudzi, musical guest Emma Donovan. Hosted by Patricia Karvelas. ______ This event was recorded at Melbourne Town Hall on Wednesday 2 November 2022 as part of the Wheeler Centre's Spring Fling Opening Night: Lightbulb Moments.Featured music is Kwick Baby by Youth Community. Spring Fling is proudly supported by the Victorian Government through Creative Victoria and is supported through the Melbourne City Revitalisation Fund – a $200 million partnership of the Victorian Government and the City of Melbourne.Support the Wheeler Centre: https://www.wheelercentre.com/support-us/donateSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Joining Chloé for the final episode of season 1 of Boldly Me is the iconic Alright Hey – AKA Matt Hey! Chloé and Matt chat about finding your space and your people, Matt's relationship with fashion and gender, and his new podcast High Scrollers. LINKS Follow Alright Hey on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and YouTube. Listen to High Scrollers – https://link.chtbl.com/AlrightHey. Follow Chloé on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Learn more about Chloé on her website https://www.chloehayden.com.au/. Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content – @novapodcastsofficial. CREDITSHost: Chloe HaydenProducer: Amy KimballEditor: Adrian WaltonExecutive Producer: Anna HenvestManaging Producer: Elle Beattie Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we produced this podcast, the Gadigal People of the Eora Nation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Joining Chloé on this episode is the incomparable Grace Tame. Chloé and Grace chat about Grace's autism diagnosis, finding her support network, and why an autistic person would never have invented the lawnmower. CW: This episode contains discussions of eating disorders, child sexual abuse, and mental ill-health. If you think you need immediate assistance, call 000. If you would like to speak to someone about your situation, you may wish to contact one of the following services.  Lifeline – Call 13 11 14, or visit www.lifeline.org.au. 1800RESPECT – Call 1800 737 732, or visit www.1800respect.org.au. The Butterfly Foundation – Call 1800 334 673 or visit www.butterfly.org.au. LINKS Follow Grace Tame on Instagram. Buy Grace's book – The Ninth Life of a Diamond Miner. Learn more about The Grace Tame Foundation – https://www.thegracetamefoundation.org.au/  Follow Chloé on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Learn more about Chloé on her website https://www.chloehayden.com.au/. Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content – @novapodcastsofficial. CREDITSHost: Chloe HaydenProducer: Amy KimballEditor: Adrian WaltonExecutive Producer: Anna HenvestManaging Producer: Elle Beattie Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we produced this podcast, the Gadigal People of the Eora Nation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Georgie Stone didn't have much choice other than to be bold. At just 11 years old, she was thrust into the spotlight after winning a landmark case to become the youngest person to be granted puberty blockers by the Family Court. Since then, she's been a powerful voice in the Trans rights movement in Australia, as well as an in-demand speaker, and cast member of Neighbours.  Georgie and Chloé talk about the power of representation, learning how to look after herself, and how an email for school turned into the opportunity of a lifetime. LINKS Follow Georgie Stone on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. Learn more about Transcend Australia – https://transcend.org.au/. Watch The Dreamlife of Georgie Stone https://dreamlifefilm.com/. Follow Chloé on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Learn more about Chloé on her website https://www.chloehayden.com.au/. Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content – @novapodcastsofficial. CREDITSHost: Chloe HaydenProducer: Amy KimballEditor: Adrian WaltonExecutive Producer: Anna HenvestManaging Producer: Elle Beattie Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we produced this podcast, the Wurundjeri People of the Kulin Nation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Carly Findlay is an appearance activist, author, and speaker, and one of the truest examples of someone living boldly and authentically as themselves. She chats to Chloe about dealing with ableism from within the disabled community, how she protects her peace, and the motto that helps her in life. CW: This episode contains discussions of ableism. If this episode raises any issues for you, help is available through Lifeline on 13 11 14 or via their website lifeline.org.au LINKS Follow Carly Findlay on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Learn more about Carly on her website https://carlyfindlay.com.au/. Buy Carly's books, Say Hello and Growing Up Disabled in Australia. Follow Chloé on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Learn more about Chloé on her website https://www.chloehayden.com.au/. Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content – @novapodcastsofficial. CREDITSHost: Chloe HaydenProducer: Amy KimballEditor: Adrian WaltonExecutive Producer: Anna HenvestManaging Producer: Elle Beattie Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we produced this podcast, the Gadigal People of the Eora Nation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We live in a society that is only just beginning to recognise neurodivergence in women and non-binary people. So how does it feel to be misdiagnosed for years? Does greater public awareness make socialising a little bit simpler? What are some strategies to cope with ableist systems? And what stereotypes do we really need to put in the bin?In this session at All About Women 2023, host and festival co-curator Dr. Amy Thunig is joined by panellists Chloe Hayden, Grace Tame and Dr. Jac den Houting to share their lived experiences with Autism. Navigating questions about social situations and professional settings, and what terms like masking and mimicry mean. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

At just 17 years-old, Tsehay Hawkins is hitting heights most people couldn't dream of at that age. After joining The Wiggles at just 15, she became the second female to be a member, and the first of African heritage. When it was announced Tsehay would be taking over from the much-loved Yellow Wiggle, Emma, she was catapulted into headlines around the world. Chloé chats to Tsehay about her adoption story and multicultural family, her journey to The Wiggles, and how she makes time to still be a teenager. LINKS Follow Tsehay on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook. Follow The Wiggles on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube. Learn more about The Wiggles on their website https://www.thewiggles.com/. Follow Chloé on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Learn more about Chloé on her website https://www.chloehayden.com.au/. Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content – @novapodcastsofficial. CREDITSHost: Chloe HaydenProducer: Amy KimballEditor: Adrian WaltonExecutive Producer: Anna HenvestManaging Producer: Elle Beattie Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we produced this podcast, the Gadigal People of the Eora Nation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dylan Alcott is one of the best examples of 'bold' that Australia has to offer. Grand Slam winner, 2022 Australian of the Year, Paralympic gold medalist, Logie award winner, the list goes on! But as Dylan tells Chloé, these achievements haven't been without hardship. They chat about the importance of disability education in schools, Dylan's journey with self-love, and why everyone deserves to take up space. LINKS Follow Dylan on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. Learn more about The Dylan Alcott Foundation – https://dylanalcottfoundation.com.au/. Follow Chloé on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Learn more about Chloé on her website https://www.chloehayden.com.au/. Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content – @novapodcastsofficial. CREDITSHost: Chloe HaydenProducer: Amy KimballEditor: Adrian WaltonExecutive Producer: Anna HenvestManaging Producer: Elle Beattie Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we produced this podcast, the Wurundjeri People of the Kulin Nation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We asked for your Fierce Girls stories, and wow, you delivered! You'll hear inspiring stories by Fierce listeners just like you about a polar explorer, a jockey, a marathon runner, and a robotics pioneer just to name a few! You'll hear five of the best stories spun by listeners on July 10, and another five on October 11, for International Day of The Girl.

We asked for your Fierce Girls stories, and wow, you delivered! You'll hear inspiring stories by Fierce listeners just like you about a polar explorer, a jockey, a marathon runner, and a robotics pioneer just to name a few! You'll hear five of the best stories spun by listeners on July 10, and another five on October 11, for International Day of The Girl.

There have already been a lot of special people on Boldly Me, but let's just say this episode is an especially special one. Chloé chats to comedian, writer, actor, and the man behind the music of Matilda the Musical, TIM MINCHIN!! Tim and Chloé chat about dealing with critics, looking after his mental health, being a parent to an autistic child, and if Tim is maybe in the neurospicy club... LINKS Follow Tim on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Learn more about Tim on his website – https://www.timminchin.com/. Follow Chloé on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Learn more about Chloé on her website https://www.chloehayden.com.au/. Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content – @novapodcastsofficial. CREDITSHost: Chloe HaydenProducer: Amy KimballEditor: Adrian WaltonExecutive Producer: Anna HenvestManaging Producer: Elle Beattie Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we produced this podcast, the Gadigal People of the Eora Nation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Chloé Hayden is a speaker, actor, author, and disability rights activist. You might have caught her on the rebooted Heartbreak High where she plays Quinni. Chloe was diagnosed as Autistic at age thirteen and all of her incredible and varied work aims to support, make visible and build understanding about Neurodiversity. Different, Not Less is something of a clarion call to a Neurotypical word that Neurodiversity exists and that it is Different, Not Less. Chloe's story is part biography, part manifesto, part warm hug for neurodiverse folk (who incidentally, make up about 12% of the population according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics). Full disclosure here, In my day job I am a Speech Pathologist and supporting neurodiversity is a big and important part of what I try to do every day. For too long the work of understanding and making decisions for people on the Autism Spectrum has been left to Neurotypical people. I wanted to bring you all this book because it speaks so well to things that many of us don't have in our daily experience, but that we need to understand to better make the world a place that is open for everyone. Chloe's book pulls back the veil on the ways that a neurotypical world too often gets it wrong when it comes to neurodiverse people.  Taking the structure of Autobiography, Chloe explores her experiences from childhood through adolescence and into adulthood. In these stories she talks about her confusion at not understanding why she didn't fit in, her torment at the hands of people who wanted her to conform to a certain way of being and the harms she experienced trying to be someone she's not. Along the way she teaches the reader about what it means to be Autistic and (to come back to the title) why it is different not less. Chloe bares her soul to help the reader understand sensory difference and how sensory processing underpins so much of our daily experiences. The book works to bring a relatable understanding of sensory processing and how extreme sensations can disrupt a person's daily experiences. The story takes in what it means to feel apart, or outside the everyday of peers and family. Chloe explores her own pain to help people understand both what it means to be Autistic, but also what isn't inherent, but is in fact a product of the way society treats people who are different. Mental Health is a big and important conversation in the book. Chloe has a wonderful way of introducing the topic and of preparing readers with signals for topics that may be too much.  And there's a lot in this book that feels too much. We are shown the harm that is done in a one-size-fits-all world, a world that has little tolerance for difference. There's a lot to recommend Different Not Less but I would say it is hard to go past its heart and the generous way Chloe Hayden takes her platform and uses it to support a world that has not done its fair share to understand.  Neurodiversity is about all of us and supporting neurodiverse folks means taking more time to listen to their stories and then changing our world to be a more open place. Loved this review? You can get more books, writing and literary culture every week on the Final Draft Great Conversations podcast. Hear interviews with authors and discover your next favourite read! Book Club is produced and presented by Andrew Pople Want more great conversations with Australian authors? Discover this and many more conversations on Final Draft every week from 2ser. Get in touch with Andrew and Final Draft. We love to hear about what you're reading! Twitter - https://twitter.com/finaldraft2ser  Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/finaldraft2ser/  Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/finaldraft2ser/ 

Dan realises he has an apology to make, which is excellent timing given this weeks topic is about friendships. Bianca and Dan delve into their past to try and make sense of friendships lost and maintained. This is without doubt the most Autistic episode that has been recorded. Friendships are hard!Enjoy regular segments Autistic Moment, Neurodivergent Digest and Text fuckups.You can vote for Chloe Hayden at TV Week Logie Awards 2023 Please come join us on our socials where we are very much present. We very much want you to share your stories and opinions. Join our public and private pages to start the discussion.Public Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/latetothepartypodcastPrivate Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1168470233702726Email us at latetothepartyasd@gmail.comInstagram page - https://www.instagram.com/latetothepartyasd/Website at https://latetotheparty.buzzsprout.com

Rosie Jones is a comedian, writer, presenter, and actor. You may have seen her on panel shows such as QI, Would I Lie To You, or The Last Leg. She's the author of a series of children's books, and wrote an episode of Sex Education. Rosie hosts the travel show Trip Hazard, and this year has been nominated for a BAFTA TV award for Best Entertainment Performance.   Rosie and Chloé talk about the power of disabled representation, Rosie's experience writing for Sex Education, and how she came to terms with her identity as a gay, disabled woman. LINKS Follow Rosie on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. Learn more about Rosie on her website – Rosie Jones - Stand Up Comedian (rosiejonescomedy.com). Follow Chloé on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Learn more about Chloé on her website https://www.chloehayden.com.au/. Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content – @novapodcastsofficial. CREDITSHost: Chloe HaydenProducer: Amy KimballEditor: Adrian WaltonExecutive Producer: Anna HenvestManaging Producer: Elle Beattie Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we produced this podcast, the Wurundjeri People of the Kulin Nation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Disability rights activist Chloe Hayden is joining Clementine for a special neurodivergent episode – she's the star of Netflix's Heartbreak High & now the host of Nova's new podcast, Boldly Me. In each episode, Chloé speaks to people who have taken risks, dared to be bold and have an awesome story.  Today, Chloe & Clem answer: How can I be confident telling professional people in my life and business that I'm newly diagnosed with inattentive ADHD so that they'll take me seriously? My son has recently been diagnosed with autism. I know you were diagnosed with OCD as a child. I am wondering if you could share any advice you may have learnt through your own experience growing up ,about parenting a neurodiverse child? If you have a question for Clementine, get in touch: dearclementine@novapodcasts.com.au CREDITS Audio Production: Adrian Walton Managing Producer: Elle Beattie Executive Producer: Edwina Stott  For more great Nova Podcasts head to novapodcasts.com.au See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Clementine Ford is a podcaster, speaker and feminist activist. She is the bestselling author of the feminist manifestos Fight Like A Girl and Boys Will Be Boys, and her memoir How We Love.  In this wide-ranging conversation, Clem and Chloe talk about their experiences with internalised ableism and receiving their ADHD diagnoses, the quote Clem returns to that motivates her activism, and how she looks after and stays true to herself. LINKS Follow Clem on Instagram and Facebook. Buy Clem's books How We Love, Boys Will Be Boys, and Fight Like A Girl. Follow Chloé on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Learn more about Chloé on her website https://www.chloehayden.com.au/. Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content – @novapodcastsofficial. CREDITSHost: Chloe HaydenProducer: Amy KimballEditor: Adrian WaltonExecutive Producer: Anna HenvestManaging Producer: Elle Beattie Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we produced this podcast, the Wurundjeri People of the Kulin Nation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Elly Desmarchelier is a proud disabled woman, determined to advocate change for the 1 in 5 Australians with disability. She's a speaker, writer, and was the National Spokesperson for the Defend Our NDIS campaign during the 2022 federal election.  In this inspiring conversation, Chloé and Elly speak about the importance of having a seat at the table, advocacy burnout, and how nothing grows inside of a comfort zone. LINKS Follow Elly on Instagram and Twitter. Follow Chloé on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Learn more about Elly on her website https://www.ellydesmarchelier.com/. Learn more about Chloé on her website https://www.chloehayden.com.au/. Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content – @novapodcastsofficial. CREDITSHost: Chloe HaydenProducer: Amy KimballEditor: Adrian WaltonExecutive Producer: Anna HenvestManaging Producer: Elle Beattie Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we produced this podcast, the Gadigal People of the Eora Nation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

At just 14 years old, RJ Mitte was catapulted into the spotlight when he starred in the hit show Breaking Bad as Walter White Jr. Like the character, RJ has cerebral palsy, and has used his platform to become a staunch advocate for disabled representation in film and TV. RJ and Chloé chat about how he got the role on Breaking Bad, overcoming bullying, and what good disabled representation looks like. LINKS Follow RJ on Instagram and Twitter. Follow Chloé on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Learn more about Chloé on her website https://www.chloehayden.com.au/. Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content – @novapodcastsofficial. CREDITSHost: Chloe HaydenProducer: Amy KimballEditor: Adrian WaltonExecutive Producer: Anna HenvestManaging Producer: Elle Beattie Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we produced this podcast, the Wurundjeri People of the Kulin Nation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

TRANSCRIPT HERE   Welcome to Hartley High, where the kids are much much cooler than we ever were but also more relatable than they've ever been. Join disability advocate, journalist and copywriter Zoe Simmons, as she discusses with Steph what she related to in Netflix's 2022 reboot of iconic Australian series, Heartbreak High. Steph and Zoe discuss how the writers really strived to provide appropriate representation, what landed and what didn't, and ok spoiler - how the character of Quinni played by Chloe Hayden is hands down the best autistic representation we have seen to date. Also, learn what an Eshay is! Kids these days, amirite? Follow Zoe on Twitter @ItBeingsWithZ & Instagram @SomethingBeginningWithZ and check out her copywriting website here: Zoe Simmons CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of racism, racial violence, drug & alcohol use, sexual assault, ableism, suicidal ideation Follow Psychocinematic on Instagram, Twitter and Tiktok! or join our Facebook Group! Email us at psychocinematicpodcast@gmail.com. Join our PATREON to support us and get sikkkk benefits and bonus content! And check out our NEW WEBSITE REFERENCES:

Brihony Dawson always knew they'd have a big life, and they certainly weren't wrong! From performing with international superstars like Aerosmith and Guns N' Roses, to becoming the first non-binary presenter to front a major TV show in Australia, they've got some major life achievements under their belt. Brihony chats to Chloé about how they stay true to themself, dealing with imposter syndrome, navigating our binary society, and the importance of allies. LINKS Follow Brihony on Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube. Learn more about Brihony on their website https://brihonydawson.com/. Follow Chloé on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Learn more about Chloé on her website https://www.chloehayden.com.au/. Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content – @novapodcastsofficial. CREDITSHost: Chloe HaydenProducer: Amy KimballEditor: Adrian WaltonExecutive Producer: Anna HenvestManaging Producer: Elle Beattie Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we produced this podcast, the Gadigal people of the Eora NationSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

If you've ever seen Amyl and the Sniffers perform, then you'd know what 'bold' can look like on stage. Lead singer Amy Taylor performs with absolute passion, loves to get in the thick of the crowd, and doesn't try to cover her thick Aussie accent. Amy joins Chloé to chat about self-expression, what people underestimate about her, and fighting sexism in the music industry. CW: This episode contains discussions of sexual assault from 25:32–26:27. If this raises any issues for you, help is available through 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 or their website https://www.1800respect.org.au/, and Lifeline on 13 11 14 or their website https://www.lifeline.org.au/. LINKS Follow Amy Taylor on Instagram @caltexcowgirll. Follow Amyl and the Sniffers on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, Youtube, and Bandcamp. Find out more about Amyl and the Sniffers on their website https://www.amylandthesniffers.com/. Listen to Amyl and the Sniffers on Spotify and Apple Music. Follow Chloé on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Learn more about Chloé on her website https://www.chloehayden.com.au/. Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content – @novapodcastsofficial. CREDITSHost: Chloe HaydenProducer: Amy KimballEditor: Adrian WaltonExecutive Producer: Anna HenvestManaging Producer: Elle Beattie Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we produced this podcast, the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin Nation. We pay our respect to Elders past and present. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

To celebrate Mothers Day, Chloé is joined in this episode by her beautiful Mum, Sarah Hayden. They discuss the evolution of their bond into becoming best friends, what Chloé's childhood and autism diagnosis was like for Sarah, and how she was inspired to become a Social Worker to help others on the same journey.  LINKS Follow Chloé on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Learn more about Chloé on her website https://www.chloehayden.com.au/. Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content – @novapodcastsofficial. CREDITSHost: Chloe HaydenProducer: Amy KimballEditor: Adrian WaltonExecutive Producer: Anna HenvestManaging Producer: Elle Beattie Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we produced this podcast, the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin Nation. We pay our respect to Elders past and present. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mr Luke (aka Luke Springer) has gained a huge following on social media thanks to his hilarious videos about teaching tiny humans, and his infectious positivity. Chloé chats to Luke about his journey to becoming a teacher, supporting difference in education, and how he stays positive. LINKS Follow Luke on Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok. Learn more about Luke on his website https://iammrluke.com/. Follow Chloé on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Learn more about Chloé on her website https://www.chloehayden.com.au/. Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content – @novapodcastsofficial. CREDITSHost: Chloe HaydenProducer: Amy KimballEditor: Adrian WaltonAdditional Editing: Chae RoganExecutive Producer: Anna HenvestManaging Producer: Elle Beattie Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we produced this podcast, the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin Nation, and the Kaurna People. We pay our respect to Elders past and present. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

There has been a longer gap between episodes than usual. And that has a lot to do with our subject this episode. Anxiety and Autism regularly share the same headspace and we discuss our own relationships with it. Be sure to also go on our socials to see our horrendous attempts at making hip videos like Chloe Hayden has for her new podcast.As usual we have our ever-expanding segments including Neurodivergence Digest, Autistic Moments and our big new hit .... Text Fuckups.We very much want you to share your stories and opinions. Join our public and private pages to start the discussion.Public Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/latetothepartypodcastPrivate Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1168470233702726Email us at latetothepartyasd@gmail.comInstagram page - https://www.instagram.com/latetothepartyasd/Website at https://latetotheparty.buzzsprout.com

Samantha Andrew started her TikTok in the 2020 lockdown and gained a loyal (and large!) following with her authentic comedic voice. She's found success not just online, but in the Aussie comedy scene as part of the musical duo 'Mel & Sam', but growing up she never saw people like her in media. In this episode, Sam joins Chloé to talk about their favourite musicals, Sam's journey with her queer identity, and her advice for young queer people and their parents. LINKS Follow Sam on Instagram and TikTok. Listen to Sam's podcast Mel & Sam on Spotify. Follow Chloé on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Learn more about Chloé on her website https://www.chloehayden.com.au/. Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content – @novapodcastsofficial. CREDITSHost: Chloe HaydenProducer: Amy KimballEditor: Adrian WaltonAdditional Editing: Chae RoganExecutive Producer: Anna HenvestManaging Producer: Elle Beattie Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we produced this podcast, the Wurundjeri People of the Kulin Nation. We pay our respect to Elders past and present. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The darling of Netflix smash 'Heartbreak High' Chloe Hayden joins as she launches her new podcast 'Boldly Me' and discusses the impact of ADHD & ASDSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

As CVs go, Taryn Brumfitt's has to be one of the most impressive. She is 2023's Australian of The Year, a body image activist, director, writer and speaker. Taryn is on a mission to teach everyone to embrace their bodies, and has played a pivotal role in Chloé's journey. In this episode, Taryn joins Chloé to talk about her own body-acceptance story, reveals what it's like to be Australian of The Year, and shares some powerful wisdom on how we can all embrace the body we're in.  CW: This episode contains discussions of eating disorders and suicide. If this episode raises any issues for you, help is available through Lifeline on 13 11 14 or via their website lifeline.org.au, as well as The Butterfly Foundation on 1800 334 673 or butterfly.org.au. LINKS Follow Taryn on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and TikTok. Learn more about The Embrace Collective – https://theembracecollective.org/. Follow The Embrace Collective on Facebook and Instagram. Follow Chloé on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Learn more about Chloé on her website https://www.chloehayden.com.au/. Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content – @novapodcastsofficial. CREDITSHost: Chloe HaydenProducer/Editor: Amy KimballAdditional Editing: Chae Rogan and Adrian WaltonExecutive Producer: Anna HenvestManaging Producer: Elle Beattie Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we produced this podcast, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation, and the Kaurna People. We pay our respect to Elders past and present. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome to Boldly Me! If there's one person that is qualified to speak about living boldly and authentically as themselves, it's Lizzie Velasquez. Lizzie is a motivational speaker, anti-bullying activist and author. She has an incredibly rare condition that, among other symptoms, prevents her from accumulating body fat and gaining weight. At just 17 years old, Lizzie discovered a video calling her the 'World's Ugliest Woman' on YouTube.  In the first episode of Boldly Me, she joins Chloé to chat about the moment she realised she was different, the effects of being a victim to cruel cyber-bullying, and her incredible career spent inspiring others. LINKS Follow Lizzie Velasquez on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Watch Lizzie's TedTalk – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzPbY9ufnQY. Follow Chloé on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Learn more about Chloé on her website https://www.chloehayden.com.au/. Follow Nova Podcasts on Instagram for videos from the podcast and behind the scenes content – @novapodcastsofficial. CREDITSHost: Chloe HaydenProducer/Editor: Amy KimballAdditional Editing: Chae Rogan and Adrian WaltonExecutive Producer: Anna HenvestManaging Producer: Elle Beattie Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we produced this podcast, the Wadawurrung people and the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respect to Elders past and present. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Kay Kerr is an autistic author and journalist, and for a long time, she carried a feeling that she was doing love wrong. Her new book, Love and Autism, explores 5 different stories of neurodivergent love from the lives of autistic Australians. Kay chats to Cam and Ali about why she wrote her book, what she discovered looking back at her own teen years, and why we should reexamine our expectations of autistic people. LINKS  Buy Love and Autism Love & Autism - Pan Macmillan AU. Follow Kay on Instagram @kaykerr_. Follow Kay on Twitter @kaymariek. Learn more about Kay – https://www.kaykerr.com/. Listen and subscribe to Boldly Me with Chloé Hayden https://link.chtbl.com/BoldlyMe-SB. Follow Cam on Instagram @camerondaddo.  Follow Ali on Instagram @alidaddo.  Follow Nova Podcasts @novapodcastsofficial.  Got a question for Cam & Ali? You can email them at separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au.  CREDITS  Hosts: Cameron Daddo and Alison Brahe-Daddo. Guest: Kay Kerr.Managing Producer: Elle Beattie. Producer and Editor: Amy Kimball.  Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au.  Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we recorded this podcast, the Gadigal People of the Eora Nation. We pay our respect to Elders past and present. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode I talk about the show "Heartbreak High (2022)" on Netflix and why I find it to be the best authentic autistic representation I have ever seen in TV and film to this day.Autistic actor and advocate Chloe Hayden does a fantastic job with her portrayal of Quinni, a young queer autistic high schooler with lots of personality (not your standard stereotypical autistic person).

This episode is back by popular demand The world is not made for neurodivergent people. It can be particularly challenging for children on the spectrum who are growing up and learning in a world that isn't always kind or understanding. Chloe Hayden grew up feeling like a square peg in a round hole. School in particular was very challenging. In her own words, it sucked. But Chloe is here to help other neurodivergent children and their families. Her book is called Different not Less, a neurodivergent's guide to embracing your true self and finding your happily ever after. Link to book: https://bit.ly/3RwyaKm See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, Jacinta and Lachlan interview Matt Bruyninckx. We discuss Matt's diagnosis journey, his new venture Divergent Studios and what a more accommodating arts industry looks like, as well as Matt's experience with workplace bullying and discrimination.    About our guest Matt Bruyninckx is the director of Divergent Studios, as well as a seasoned actor, writer, and producer, who has worked in both the Screen and Music Industries. Since being diagnosed Autistic in 2019, Matt has directed his passion for the arts and creative expression towards advocacy for and education surrounding neurodiverse people within the workplace. He continues to channel this learning and experience into developing neurodivergent safe spaces in the arts. In 2022 he was accepted into the highly contested Neurodiverse Leadership Program offered by the Sylvia Rodger Academy and continues to show his wealth of knowledge and strong commitment to the ethos of 'we'll find a way'.   Content warning In this episode of Differently Brained we discuss ableism, discrimination and workplace bullying. Please feel free to skip this episode or reach out to medical professionals if it has brought anything up for you.   Representations & resources Divergent Studios  Matt's imdb Matt's instagram Sex Education Heartbreak High, Different, Not Less and Chloe Hayden, Kitty Flanagan and Fisk Hannah Gadsby and Ten Steps to Nanette. You can purchase all of these book titles and more from your local independent bookseller or Booktopia. Please note by purchasing through these Booktopia partner links we are provided a small commission which allows us to continue to provide the podcast at no cost to our audience.    About the podcast Differently Brained shares the opinions of individuals and does not consider your personal circumstances. Differently Brained exists purely for information purposes and should not be relied on as health or medical advice. Because no brain is the same, please consult your healthcare professional for your personal medical needs. The Differently Brained team acknowledge the traditional custodians of the lands on which we record, edit and stream this podcast. We pay our respects to all First Nations peoples and their Elders part, present and emerging. We extend that respect to all First Nations cultures and their ongoing connection to the lands, waterways and communities.

In this series Chloé Hayden (from Netflix's Heartbreak High) will chat to people that, just like her, are living life boldly and are unapologetically themselves. Chloe will be joined by people known for living their lives authentically, and with confidence. From life lessons to advice for overcoming challenges, to learning to embrace your *sparkle*. Boldly Me will show you that the best way to live life is by fully embracing yourself. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

"Ironically by pretending to be someone else I was able to feel more like myself" Chloe Hayden is what happens when talent meets accessibility. The star of the #1 Netflix programme in the world, "Heartbreak High," portraying Quinni, a neurodiverse character, shone both in her representation and support of performers with disabilities portraying those with disabilities. She explains being her own worst enemy, growing up an outcast of a society not willing to accept a young person who didn't fit it's tiny box and being mobbed in the streets. In this episode we talk: Growing up in a small community without disability representation Chloe's world after her diagnosis of Autism and ADHD Being 'Selectively Mute' Acting and Heartbreak High (obvs) Accessibility on TV & Movie sets Finding love online and planning her wedding Why she HATES fancy food Grab her Book 'Different Not Less' on her website here: https://www.chloehayden.com.au/ Chloe's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chloeshayden/ Check out Dylan's new company and our sponsor 'The Field' https://www.thefield.jobs/Register/JobSeekerRegistration?utm_source=Podcast&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=ListenAbleMarch23&utm_id=ListenAblePodcast Check out our YouTube Channel where this episode is captioned: https://youtu.be/eBVAV1YDsxw Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4b9RoU8Um1Tn57t2dL6NNW Join the 10,000+ legends on Instagram: @ListenABLE_ Podcast https://www.instagram.com/listenable_podcast/ Grab our first merch release at our website From Your Pocket https://fromyourpocket.com.au/work/listenable/merch  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On International Women's Day we're bringing together some of our favourite Emsolation visitors to remind us why women should be celebrating each other every day. Inside you'll find Em's chats with a heap of her besties including Masterchef favourite and food writer Melissa Leong, film maker, historian and author, Santilla Chingaipe and gender equality advocate and author Jamila Rizvi. We also have some timely advice from period preacher Lucy Peach and Gynaecologist Dr Kara Thompson. There's also Heartbreak High actor and disability activist Chloe Hayden, Winners and Losers and Cyrano actor, writer and director Virginia Gay and star of Underbelly and 5 Bedrooms actor Kat Stewart all drop in to offer up some brilliant anecdotes and words of wisdom. We've also asked Emsolators to offer up their own ‘Good for Her' nominations for the women they wanna celebrate in their lives. So plug in and enjoy a feast of females celebrating everything that makes them fabulous as we give a delightful pat on the back to all the women we love and admire. Melissa Leong chat: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4IDJQLmYZUqqRAmH69IaKa?si=FPX5yrKATHiKzMAtMhMEZg Santilla Chingaipe chat: https://open.spotify.com/episode/33y210wcp3wrdf9QrjJ7xl?si=JwOjiCGBTFC-HaessNYOVg Jamila Rizvi chat: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6oHuxqPLRP9Q4THe3RuYoP?si=yk-8K0YSQK-TCMu8LhxjZw Lucy Peach chat: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0MOLZsgksuJIklLPRzBvsS?si=1bZIs493T1qDn-qQBROG-A Dr Kara Thompson chat: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0iWS9RogmCHOx1MeYkbjtL?si=R3W5ZdmnQ1aJ5lsmqzx0PQ Chloe Hayden chat: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1ynwXlDXmxPnr4E96KVuHi?si=KENglBJ2QIiaWOTD_NQVVQ Virginia Gay chat: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3t48wh1YH3pnpIXr4EJ1Ca?si=abjUXBL4TI2dA6WJvIZ4YA Kat Stewart chat: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6cOrPUs117J3s7NY3P1kAc?si=IBfInPuVTaORkScdAfmD-g Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Jacinta and Lachlan interview Kay Kerr, author of Please Don't Hug Me, Social Queue and Love & Autism. They discuss Kay's diagnosis journey, how she has made her house an autistic safe space and how she writes informed and sensitive autistic characters.    About our guest Kay Kerr is an autistic author and journalist from the Sunshine Coast, Queensland. Her debut novel Please Don't Hug Me (2020) was shortlisted for Book of the Year for Older Children at the Australian Book Industry Awards in 2021, and listed as a ‘Notable Book' by the Children's Book Council of Australia. Her second novel, Social Queue, was released with Text Publishing in October 2021. Kay's freelance writing has appeared in The Guardian, SBS Voices, Daily Life, Broadsheet, and Peppermint Magazine, amongst others. She writes about autistic representation, disability, parenting, pop culture, gardening, and feelings. Kay's new book Love & Autism is out now.    Representations & resources Kay's website Please Don't Hug Me Social Queue Love & Autism The Overshare the Amaze website Autism Connect the Yellow Ladybugs Helen Hoang (The Kiss Quotient, The Bride Test and The Heart Principle) Anna Whateley (Peta Lyre's Rating Normal) Heartbreak High, Different, Not Less and Chloe Hayden, Hannah Gadsby and Ten Steps to Nanette Everything's Gonna Be Okay and Josh Thomas Clem Bastow's Late Bloomer The Umbrella Academy.  You can purchase all of these book titles and more from your local independent bookseller or Booktopia. Please note by purchasing through these Booktopia partner links we are provided a small commission which allows us to continue to provide the podcast at no cost to our audience.    About the podcast Differently Brained shares the opinions of individuals and does not consider your personal circumstances. Differently Brained exists purely for information purposes and should not be relied on as health or medical advice. Because no brain is the same, please consult your healthcare professional for your personal medical needs. The Differently Brained team acknowledge the traditional custodians of the lands on which we record, edit and stream this podcast. We pay our respects to all First Nations peoples and their Elders part, present and emerging. We extend that respect to all First Nations cultures and their ongoing connection to the lands, waterways and communities.

“Neurodiversity,” says Ruby, is basically a term explaining the unique ways people's brains work. And Ruby knows. In this episode, she's “taking down the mask” to talk about her own unique brain! Although neurodiversity is a much more common topic than in days past, it's still pretty misunderstood. And when you pair it with fertility challenges, well, finding research or even conversations becomes really challenging. But few are as tenacious as these two when it comes to sharing important information. They found a licensed psychologist who works in fertility and who is looking to make fertility clinics more neurodiverse-friendly. In this conversation with Dr. Kristen Chambliss, Ruby, Anne, and Dr. Chambliss tackle many of the misconceptions rooted in our culture when it comes to a diversity of neurotypes.  It's a critical conversation. After all, as Dr. Chambliss says, neurodiversity may be as crucial to the human race as biodiversity. Or, as Anne put it so well: “Variety is not a disability.” Neurodivergence is not the same as intellectual disability or mental illness. And the more we understand, the less we'll have to fear. There are many strengths that come with being neurodivergent, though sadly, most of what we hear about are the struggles. Fertility can be a particular problem for the neurodivergent individual. Fertility treatment can be especially difficult for individuals who find sensory experiences problematic, for example. Recognizing the many challenges humans as a whole struggle with means more folks get the kind of help they need, offered in the way they need it. And that's just plain good.  Dr. Kristen Chambliss is a licensed psychologist specializing in treating individuals coping with infertility, in vitro fertilization, relationship concerns, and anxiety. She currently practices in Friendswood, Texas. Not only is she an infertility specialist but she is also actively working with our professional organization, the American Society for Reproductive Medicine on a proposal to make clinics more neurodiverse friendly.  References:  Website for the Bloom (1998) article from The Atlantic https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1998/09/neurodiversity/305909/ Damian E.M. Milton (2012) On the ontological status of autism: the ‘double empathy problem', Disability & Society, 27:6, 883-887, DOI: 10.1080/09687599.2012.710008  Sasson NJ, Faso DJ, Nugent J, Lovell S, Kennedy DP, Grossman RB. Neurotypical Peers are Less Willing to Interact with Those with Autism based on Thin Slice Judgments. Sci Rep. 2017 Feb 1;7:40700. doi: 10.1038/srep40700. PMID: 28145411; PMCID: PMC5286449.  Saxena P. Assisted reproductive technology and its Association with autism in children. Fertil Sci Res 2021;8:20-4  Singer, J. (1998). Odd People In: The Birth of Community Amongst People on the Autistic Spectrum: A personal exploration of a New Social Movement based on Neurological Diversity. Sydney: Faculty of Humanities and Social Science University of Technology, Sydney.  Youtube clip for Chloe Hayden: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP84_OHOCzM  From Autistic Doctors International: Williams, G. L., Adams, J., Bull, P., Cave, H., Chown, N., Doherty, M., Forrest, K., Foster, R., Fricker, R., Godfree, B., Keaveney-Sheath, K., Knight, J., Marrable, T., Murray, R., Shaw, S. C. K., Ventour-Griffiths, T., Wood, J. (2022) More than words: Supporting effective communication with autistic people in health care settings. Economic and Social Research Council. Available at:https://www.boingboing.org.uk/more_than_words/

You might not have heard of 'eye sparkles' before, but knowing what they are, and how we can use them can be a brilliant tool in our mental health toolkit. Today's tip comes from Chloé Hayden, and reminds us how there's a bit of magic inside all of us. LINKS See more from Chloé Hayden here Follow @thespace_podcast on Instagram    Watch @thespace_podcast on TikTok   Follow @novapodcastsofficial on Instagram    CREDITS Host: Casey Donovan @caseydonovan88 Writer: Amy Molloy @amymolloy Executive Producer: Anna HenvestEditor: Adrian Walton  Listen to more great podcasts at novapodcasts.com.au  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Tongue punch me in the fart box, let's kick off RN Summer on Stop Everything! by going back to school.It's a hat trick of high school nostalgia starting with Vidya Rajan and Stephen Nicolazzo on their stage adaptation of Melina Marchetta's classic novel, Looking for Alibrandi.Then hear from Ayesha Madon, James Majoos and Chloe Hayden, three young stars of Netflix's hit reboot of 90s drama Heartbreak High.Finally, theatre makers Diana Nguyen and Petra Kalive reflect on high school drama and trauma in their main stage adaptation of Alice Pung's award-winning novel, Laurinda.

Tongue punch me in the fart box, let's kick off RN Summer on Stop Everything! by going back to school. It's a hat trick of high school nostalgia starting with Vidya Rajan and Stephen Nicolazzo on their stage adaptation of Melina Marchetta's classic novel, Looking for Alibrandi. Then hear from Ayesha Madon, James Majoos and Chloe Hayden, three young stars of Netflix's hit reboot of 90s drama Heartbreak High. Finally, theatre makers Diana Nguyen and Petra Kalive reflect on high school drama and trauma in their main stage adaptation of Alice Pung's award-winning novel, Laurinda.

Real estate agents will be investigated over driving up rental prices with bidding frenzies, as NSW prepares to bring in new laws. An urgent investigation into Transport NSW's planning day launched following inquiries from The Daily Telegraph. Shane Warne and distance runner Ron Clarke to be officially recognised as Legend status in the Sport Australia Hall of Fame. Breakout tv star Chloe Hayden still can't quite believe she now counts her biggest Aussie idols among her peers.For updates and breaking news throughout the day take out a subscription at dailytelegraph.com.au See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Inverleigh local, CHLOE HAYDEN joined Tim & Jess to chat about her breakout role as 'Quinn' in the remake of Heartbreak High as well as being able to portray an autistic character as someone who has being diagnosed with autism herself! 

Inverleigh local, CHLOE HAYDEN joined Tim & Jess to chat about her breakout role as 'Quinn' in the remake of Heartbreak High as well as being able to portray an autistic character as someone who has being diagnosed with autism herself! 

Feel Good From Within with Yvette Le Blowitz - #SPAITGIRL Podcast EP.193 - Different Not Less with Chloe Hayden, Award-Winning Actor, Disability Advocate, Motivational Speaker, Social Media Influencer, Author Chloe Hayden is an award-winning actor and disability advocate, motivational speaker and social media influencer whose story of being 'different, not less' has attracted a worldwide following. She stars as one of the worlds first autistic characters, Quinni in Heartbreak High, the Netflix remake of the iconic Australian Series. Chloe Hayden moved between 10 schools in 8 years, struggling to become a person she believed society would accept, and was eventually diagnosed with autism (and ADHD) at the age of thirteen and feeling ostracised from society, Chloe started an anonymous blog to share her feelings to find a community, and ended up building something bigger than she ever dreamed. Now, Chloe is a power house in advocacy and a worldwide know name, with platforms of half a million followers and nearly half a billion views. Chloe is fighting for a better future for those who's voices have been silence for too long. Different Not Less is a story of how it feels to be neurodivergent as well as practical guide with advice for living with meltdowns and shutdowns and tips for finding supportive communities and much more. Whether you're neurodivergent or supporting those who are, Different, No Less will inspire you to create a more inclusive world where everyone feels like they belong. Yvette Le Blowitz Podcast Host talks with Chloe Hayden Author of  Different Not Less who shares valuable insights into what it's like living with Autism and ADHD, Sensory Overloads, Meltdowns, Shutdowns and Burnout. In Podcast Episode - EP.193  Chloe Hayden shares: - a little bit about herself - insights into her book Different Not Less - how to cope with Sensory Overload - tips on how to support a Autistic person when Shutdowns, Meltdowns happen - tips on preventing burnout - mental illness, eating disorders, suicide, sexual abuse {some people may find this triggering, please seek support and contact Lifeline Australia on 13 11 44 or in a crisis contact your nearest hospital or emergency services) - how to find your tribe - mental health tips if you or a loved one has been diagnosed with Autism and ADHD - his own self-care rituals Plus we talk about so much more TRIGGER WARNING: Suicide, Eating Disorders, Sexual Abuse is discussed in this podcast episode some people may find this triggering, if this causes any distress please contact Lifeline Australia on 13 11 14 or in a crisis please contact your nearest hospital or emergency services ----- Get Ready to TUNE IN  Episode 193 - #spaitgirl Podcast with Yvette Le Blowitz  available on Apple, Spotify, Google, iHeart Radio, Amazon Music, Audible, iTunes, Libysn, Audiobookstore.com - all podcast apps search for #spaitgirl on any podcast app or on google  -------- Available to watch on Youtube Channel - Spa it Girl or Yvette Le Blowitz Press the Play Button Below and subscribe   ------ JOIN OUR #SPAITGIRL BOOK CLUB Buy a copy of   **Different Not Less by Chloe Hayden **pre-order through the spaitgirl podcast affiliated BookTopia link *any book purchase via this link will result in a small commission paid by BookTopia to spaitgirl **thanks for your support for more books search via Booktopia our affiliated online book store  *click here Hashtag #spaitgirlbookclub + tag @spaitgirl to share what book you are currently reading --- STAY IN TOUCH   Podcast Guest Chloe Hayden Author of Different Not Less Instagram @chloeshayden Website www.chloehayden.com.au ------ Podcast Host  Yvette Le Blowitz  Instagram @yvetteleblowitz Website www.yvetteleblowitz.com Website www.feelgoodfromwithin.com Youtube Channel: Yvette Le Blowitz  TikTok: @yvetteleblowitz Become a Podcast Show Sponsor #SPAITGIRL  www.spaitgirl.com Email: info@spaitgirl.com Email: info@feelgoodfromwithin.com www.feelgoodfromwithin.com -- JOIN OUR #SPAITGIRL Community  Instagram: @spaitgirl TikTok: @spaitgirl Sign Up to my Mailing List: www.spaitgirl.com Sign Up to my Mailing List: www.feelgoodfromwithin.com Search for #spaitgirl on any podcast app, youtube and subscribe  ---- HOW TO SUPPORT Feel Good From Within with Yvette Le Blowitz - #SPAITGIRL Podcast  Little Random Act of Kindness - podcast show - support - ideas below  - subscribe to the #spaitgirl podcast show on any podcast app or youtube channel  - leave a 5* rating and review  - tell someone about the #spaitgirl podcast show - share your favourite episode - tag @spaitgirl in your stories - hashtag #spaitgirl to share the show &  Together "Let's Feel Good From Within" and #makefeelinggoodgoviral Please note - Affiliated Links included in this spaitgirl.com blog post includes affiliated links with Amazon.com and booktopia.com.au- should you order any books from Amazon.com or Booktopia.com.au via the links contained in this blog post spaitgirl.com will receive a small paid commission fee from the online book stores.  Please note - The information in this podcast is a general conversation between the podcast host and podcast guest and is not intended to replace professional medical advice and should not be considered a substitute for medical treatment or advice from a mental health professional or qualified medical doctor or specialist.  Use of any of the material in this podcast show is always at the listeners discretion.   The podcast host and guest accept no liability arising directly or indirectly from use or misuse of any of the information contained in this podcast show and podcast episode conversation, or any trauma triggered or health concerns associated with it. 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The world is not made for neurodivergent people. It can be particularly challenging for children on the spectrum who are growing up and learning in a world that isn't always kind or understanding. Chloe Hayden grew up feeling like a square peg in a round hole. School in particular was very challenging. In her own words, it sucked. But Chloe is here to help other neurodivergent children and their families. Her book is called Different not Less, a neurodivergent's guide to embracing your true self and finding your happily ever after. Link to book: https://bit.ly/3RwyaKm See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Neurodivergent is a term that describes people whose brain develops or works differently for some reason. We're talking Autism, ADHD and the whole spectrum of unique neurodivergent experiences…not just the challenges but also the brilliant possibilities that diverse minds bring! Tim chats with author and actor Chloe Hayden, about her new book and an exciting new role on the Netflix series Heartbreak High! Tim also shares some big news of his own. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, we meet Chloe Hayden - speaker, actor, performer, author, influencer, content creator, and disability rights activist and advocate.Chloe was diagnosed with Autism and ADHD at the age of 13 and has created a platform where she advocates and educates about the conditions. She talks with Pete and Tristram about her experience and what can be done to create a welcoming world for neurodiverse people.

This week, I explain how Hurricane Ida will reflect the show going forward, and I discuss Next For Autism. Resources: https://youtu.be/f-D7zy6vq10 ("Autistic Reaction to Mark Rober" by Chloe Hayden) https://youtu.be/P7rm93KGqGQ ("Corporate Casket: Is Next For Autism Just Autism Speaks Jr.?") https://youtu.be/ybPgmjTRvMo ("The Truth About My Son" by Mark Rober) --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Danielle had the incredible pleasure of sitting down with her 15-year-old daughter, Mia, and Mia's hero, Autism advocate and wildly popular influencer, Chloe Hayden. Chloe and Mia talk about their own journeys with getting evaluated for Autism, what a diagnosis means to them, how the neurodivergent community wants to and deserves to be treated, why Autism is actually beautiful and powerful, and so much more. Not only is this conversation completely empowering, but it's informative and will make so many people feel seen and heard. They discuss terms like stimming, masking special interests, and how much information is lacking concerning how Autism affects girls. Share this episode with anyone whom you think would love to hear these young women (and one mom) discuss this topic in a way that is totally empowering.Follow Chloe Hayden on all platforms under @princessaspien and visit princessaspien.com to learn more about this incredible autism advocate. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week Sia's latest film 'Music' was released in Australian cinemas - but is it REALLY a 'feel-good' film it makes itself out to be? Or does it promote ableism, inspiration porn and the stigmatisation of people on the autism spectrum? TNWC host Demi Lynch spoke with actress, singer and Autism advocate Chloe Hayden about the MANY problems evident in the film.They wondered:Can neurotypical people play autistic characters in film and television?What is Autism Speaks and why is it a problematic organisation?And ultimately should people boycott this film?Make sure you check out Chloe Hayden on YouTube and TikTok .Demi highly recommends you also check out the following videos available on Chloe's platforms.ANSWERING GOOGLES MOST ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT AUTISM10 ADHD TRAITS IN GIRLSAN AUTISTIC REACTION TO 'MUSIC' BY SIA*DON'T FORGET*Next week, on Monday's episode, host Demi Lynch will be talking about DONALD TRUMP and his upcoming inauguration. Join the conversation and have your thoughts, opinions and feelings featured on the episode by sending Demi a voice memo to her email hello@thenastywomanclub.comThe Nasty Woman Podcast is hosted and produced by Demi Lynch.For more stories on sex, relationships, body positivity and social justice issues head to The Nasty Woman Club Instagram page and website thenastywomanclub.comIf you wish to support this podcast and The Nasty Woman Club platform head to paypal.me/thenastywomanclub See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Chloe Hayden grew up feeling that she was somehow different and didn't fit in. She was eventually diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome and has gone on to become an advocate for young people diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder. Chloe continues to share her inspiring story along with her mother, Sarah. Support the show: http://realfaith.org.au/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Chloe Hayden grew up knowing she was different and was beginning to believe the lie that she was somehow of less value than everyone else. But nothing could have been further from the truth! Chloe shares her story of how she was eventually diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome and her mother, Sarah, provides a parent's perspective. Support the show: http://realfaith.org.au/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.