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Church groups that trace their origins to a Christian primitivist movement founded by Joseph Smith in the late 1820s

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Profiling Evil Podcast with Mike King
Polygamist Tour of Short Creek & Life Without Warren Jeffs | Profiling Evil

Profiling Evil Podcast with Mike King

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 30, 2026 33:18


In this Feedback Friday field trip, I take you directly into the heart of Short Creek, known today as Hildale, Utah, and Colorado City, Arizona. It once was the historic stronghold of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, the FLDS. This is the community built around plural marriage, prophetic control, and absolute obedience, led for decades by self-proclaimed prophet Warren Jeffs, now serving life in a Texas prison for sexually assaulting young girls. As we drive through the streets of this once-sealed polygamist enclave, we stop at key locations that defined FLDS power: the massive compound built by Warren Jeffs' father Rulon Jeffs to house eighty-seven wives, the offices where obedience was enforced, and the meeting house where men were stripped of their families from the pulpit. You'll see where Jeffs escaped federal arrest, how the United Effort Plan centralized wealth and control, and how law enforcement was sidelined by church authority. We'll revisit the scars of history, including the infamous 1953 Short Creek Raid, the infant cemetery that still haunts investigators, and the burial grounds reserved only for the faithful. Along the way, we talk about secret police, hidden caves, the collapse of the FLDS corporate structure, and the uneasy reality that Warren Jeffs still exerts influence from behind prison walls. #Polygamy #PluralMarriage #FLDS #WarrenJeffs #RulonJeffs #ShortCreek #Hildale #ColoradoCity #ShortCreekRaid #1953Raid #FLDSCrimes #CultCrime #ReligiousAbuse #CoerciveControl #CriminalCults #TrueCrime #TrueCrimeCommunity #CultSurvivors #PolygamyAbuse #ChildAbuseAwareness #FLDSHistory #CrimeDocumentary #ProfilingEvil #JusticeForVictims #HumanTrafficking #ReligiousExtremism #CultAccountability ========================================https://gamutpodcasts.com/show/gardensofevilinsidethezionsocietycult/========================================20% OFF Newspapers.comhttps://www.newspapers.com/go/podcast/?ref=profilingevil?xid=8877&utm_source=ProfilingEvilPodcast&utm_medium=podcst&utm_campaign=ProfilingEvil26========================================FLDS StoryMap: https://arcg.is/0Gm4r1 ========================================Email your questions to: ProfilingEvil@gmail.com========================================

Unstoppable Mindset
Episode 409 – Unstoppable Innovation: How Entrepreneurs Can Defend Their IP with Devin Miller

Unstoppable Mindset

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2026 73:17


Protecting your ideas can be the difference between building momentum and watching someone else run with your work. In this episode of Unstoppable Mindset, I sit down with patent attorney and entrepreneur Devin Miller to explore what founders and business owners really need to know about patents, trademarks, and intellectual property. Devin shares how his background in engineering, startups, and law shaped his approach to innovation, and he breaks down the real differences between provisional and non-provisional patents in clear, practical terms. We talk about common mistakes entrepreneurs make, how legal protection supports growth instead of slowing it down, and why understanding intellectual property early can help you compete with confidence. I believe this conversation will give you clarity, direction, and a stronger foundation for protecting what you work so hard to create. Highlights: 00:01:18 – Hear how growing up in a small town shaped Devin's approach to problem-solving and business.00:12:53 – Learn why Devin combined engineering, business, and law instead of choosing a single career path.00:19:32 – Discover how a student competition turned into a real wearable technology startup.00:30:57 – Understand the clear difference between patents, trademarks, and copyrights.00:33:05 – Learn when a provisional patent makes sense and when it does not.00:53:52 – Discover what practical options exist when competitors copy or knock off your product. About the Guest: Devin Miller is the founder of Miller IP, a firm launched in 2018 that helps startups and small businesses protect their inventions and brands without breaking the bank. He's overseen over a thousand patent and trademark filings with a 95 percent success rate on patents and an 85 percent success rate on trademarks, making sure garage inventors and side hustlers get the same high-quality service as big tech. Before starting his firm, Devin spent years at large law firms working with clients like Intel and Amazon, but he found his true passion in helping scrappy entrepreneurs turn ideas into assets. He blends legal know how with an entrepreneur's mindset, offering flat fee packages, DIY legal tools, and hosting webinars and a podcast series to demystify IP. A lifelong runner who knocks out 10+ miles a day and 30-40 miles daily biking (except Sunday), Devin listens to audiobooks and podcasts while training for marathons. When he's not drafting office action responses or co-hosting Inventive Journey, you might catch him brainstorming the next Inventive Youth program or sipping coffee while sketching partnership agreements. Ways to connect with Devin**:** If you'd like to talk strategy or swap running playlist recs, feel free to schedule a chat at http://strategymeeting.com LinkedIn profile  https://www.linkedin.com/in/lawwithmiller/ Firm website [https://www.lawwithmiller.com](https://www.lawwithmiller.com "https://www.lawwithmiller.com") About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog. Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards. https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/ accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/ Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below! Subscribe to the podcast If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can subscribe in your favorite podcast app. You can also support our podcast through our tip jar https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/unstoppable-mindset . Leave us an Apple Podcasts review Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts. Transcription Notes: Michael Hingson  00:00 Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us. Well, hello to all of you, wherever you happen to be today, you are listening to or watching or both unstoppable mindset and I am your host. Mike hingson, our guest today is Devin Miller, who founded the company, Miller IP, and he'll tell us all about that and what that means and so on as we go through this. But I will tell you that he is a lawyer. He deals with patents and other things and a lot of stuff relating to startups. I think that's going to be a lot of fun to talk about. So without any further ado, as it were, Devin, welcome to unstoppable mindset. We're really glad you're here. Thanks for having me on. Excited to be here. Well, we're glad. We're glad you're here. Can you hear me? Okay, now I hear you. Devin Miller  02:06 Well, we're sorry for the delay, but I said I'm excited to be here and looking forward to chatting. Michael Hingson  02:11 Well, perfect. Well, let's start. I love to always do this. Let's start kind of at the beginning. Why don't you tell us about the early Devon, growing up and all that? Devin Miller  02:21 You know, I I'm happy to do. I don't know there's anything that probably stands out. I was probably fairly typical. So I was raised in a religious family, so we're attended church regularly every week. And I had a couple sisters, an older and a younger one, and was went through, went through schooling and or studied, probably the typical course. So I don't know there's anything stands out. I was in a small town, so grew up as, probably not as small as I'd like it to be anymore, but a small farming town, and it was, it was kind of always enjoyed the small town fill, and actually am back to being in that same hometown where I live now with my family. But yeah, so I did that, and I did probably the at the time, the typical thing with the it's growing up with kids and sports and doing things, and went through high school and and after that, jumped or went off to college. But I don't know if there's anything in particular that stands out in my mind, other than probably, at least in my mind, a pretty typical childhood and upbringing, but enjoyed it nonetheless. But happy to provide any details or I can jump into a bit about college. Michael Hingson  03:38 Well, where did you go to college? Devin Miller  03:40 Yeah, so I went to Brigham, young university, just or BYU, just out here in Utah. So I went off to so, or I graduated high school and I went off to a year of college. So I went off to BYU, kind of intending to go into electrical engineering, which is what I or one of the degrees I ended up studying with, and then I did that for a year, and after which I went off and did a served a religious mission for my church, so Church of Jesus Christ, or Latter Day Saints, otherwise nicknamed Mormon. So I went off and went to Taiwan for about two years. So didn't have any idea, even at that point where Taiwan was and certainly didn't know the language, but when studied that, or they have a training center where you get an opportunity to study it for about three months. So I studied it and then went off to Taiwan and served that religious mission for my church for a couple years before coming back to the high school, or good, not the high school to college to continue my studies. Michael Hingson  04:43 I several, several comments. One, I know what you mean about small hometowns. We moved from Chicago, where I was born, to California when I was five, we moved to a town called Palmdale, and it was a very small rural town about 60. Five miles north of Los Angeles. I don't know what the population was when we first moved there, but it couldn't have been more than 1000 or 1500 people spread out over a little bit of a distance. For me, it was great, because without there being a lot of traffic, I was able to do things I might not have done nearly as well in Chicago things like riding a bike, learning to ride a bike and walking to school and and not ever fearing about walking to school for any reasons, including being blind. But oftentimes I once I learned how to do it, I rode my own bike to school and locked it in the bike rack and then rode home and all that. But then Palmdale started to grow and I'm not quite sure what the population is today, but I live in a town about 55 miles east of Palmdale called Victorville, and as I described Victorville growing up, it was not even a speck on a radar scope compared to the small town of Palmdale, but we we moved down to Southern California from the Bay Area my wife and I to be closer to family and so on. In 2014 we wanted to build a house for Karen, because she was in a wheelchair her whole life. So we wanted to get a a house that would be accessible. And my gosh, the only place we could find any property was Victorville. And at that time, in 2014 it had 115,000 people in it. It has grown. Now it Devin Miller  06:31 has grown. And it tends to be that, you know, it feels like everybody's always kind of chasing the small town then, or people find out about it. Everybody moves in. It's no longer a small town, and then you're off to chasing the the next small town, wherever that might be. So it's kind of a perpetual cycle of of chasing that small or at least for the people to like it. Not everybody loves it, but I'm certainly a proponent of chasing that small town feel from from place to places, as you're trying to or trying to find or recreate what you probably grew up with. So it is a it is a cycle that everybody I think is chasing, Michael Hingson  07:09 yeah, well, for me now, my wife passed away in 2022 we were married 40 years. And so the thing about it is that there are probably advantages for me living alone, being in a place that has a few more people and a few more of the kind of amenities that at least somewhat larger towns have, like a Costco and some some restaurants. We actually live in a homeowner's development, a homeowner's association called Spring Valley Lake, and I live within walking distance of the Country Club, which has a nice restaurant, so I'm able to go to the to the restaurant whenever I choose, and that's kind of nice. So there's value for me and being here and people say, Well, do you ever want to move from Victorville now that your wife died? And why do I want to do that? Especially since I have a 3.95% mortgage? You know, I'm not going to do that, and I'm in a new house that. Well, relatively new. It was built in 2016 so it's pretty much built to code. And insulation is great. Solar is great on the house. Air conditioning works, so I can't complain. Devin Miller  08:20 No, sounds like a good setup, and it's kind of one where, why, if you enjoy where you're at, why would you move to go somewhere else that you wouldn't necessarily enjoy? So it just sounds like it works out. Michael Hingson  08:29 Well, it does, and I can always, as I need to being a keynote speaker and traveling, there's a shuttle that'll take me down to the nearest airports. So that works out. Well, that's awesome. So you went to, I'm a little bit familiar with the the whole LDS missionary program, Mission program, we we were not part of the church, but we lived, when my wife and I got married, we lived in Mission Viejo and we had neighbors right next door to us, who were members of the church, and they came over one day and they said, we have an issue. And I said, Okay. And my wife said, Okay, what's the issue? Well, we have a couple of missionaries coming in, and the only homes that are available to these two boys are homes that already have young female girls in them. So they really can't be in those homes. Would you be willing to rent your one of your rooms to missionaries? And so we said, and well, Karen said, because she was a member of the Methodist church, we said, as long as they don't try to mormonize us, we won't try to methodize them. And we would love to do it. And it worked out really well. We had a couple of missionaries for a while, and then they switched out. And eventually we had a gentleman from Tonga for a while, and we actually had a couple girls for for a while. So it worked out really well, and we we got to know them all, and it was a great relationship. And they did their work, and at Christmas time, they certainly were invited to our Christmas parties. We. Had every year a party. What we actually had was what we call a Christmas tree upping. We got the tree, we brought it into the house, and we invited all of our friends and neighbors to come and decorate the tree in the house. Because, needless to say, we weren't going to do that very well. Karen especially wasn't going to be able to stand up and decorate the tree. So we got them to do all the tree decorations and all that, and we fed them. So it worked out. Devin Miller  10:26 Well, it's awesome. Sounds like, great. And you hit on. I said, that's probably my, my favorite part of the Christmas is a Christmas tree. So growing up, we always had a real live tree, but it was always, you know, it was downstairs in the basement, and had lower ceilings. And so I was always kind of the opinion, hey, when I grow up, I want to have the a huge, you know, kind of like in the newbies at 20 plus or 20 or 20 plus foot tree, yeah. And lo and behold, we, or at least the couple houses that we build have always had, at least in the living space, have had the pretty high ceilings. And so that's always what we do. We'll go out and we'll cut down a live tree. So we'll go out to kind of in nature, to the forest, where they let you cut them down, and we'll, we'll cut down, usually it's around a 20 plus foot tree, and then have it strung up in the house. And I always tell my wife, I said, I'd rather that one could be my Christmas present. I'd be just as happy, because as long as I have my tree, it's a good Christmas for me. Michael Hingson  11:23 Yeah, oh, I hear you. Well, one of the boys who lived next door to us went off on a mission to, I think it was Argentina, and was gone for, I guess, two years. What was really funny is when he came back, it took him a while to re acclimatize his speaking English and getting back his American accent. He was he definitely had much more of a Spanish accent, and was much more used to speaking Spanish for a while. So the the three month exposure period certainly got him started at the at the center there in Utah. And then he went off and did his missionary work and then came home. But, you know, it's, it's got to be a wonderful and a very valuable experience. How do you think it affected you? Devin Miller  12:10 Yeah, I think I said, I think it would be, you said it probably well, is it like one where to say, Hey, this is the most fun time in your life, and you'll never have a more fun time. I don't know that. It's kind of like, you know, I liken it to I so I like to do a lot of running, so or in older years. I don't know that I was as much in younger years, but kind of discovered not that I love running, per se, but love to get out and decompress and otherwise, kind of have a time where I don't have a lot of intrusions or other things that are pressing in on life. And so with that, you know, I've done a number of marathons and marathons, you know, everybody again, says, Well, did you have fun? Or was it a good or was it good marathon? So I don't know that it's ever fun. I don't and do it, but it's a good accomplishment. You it's, you go out, you set your mind to something, and then otherwise, at the end of the day, you reach your goal. And, you know, kind of has the that sense of accomplishment and learning and become improving yourself. That's probably a lot of how I like in a mission is, you know, you have a lot of stresses of learning a new language, being in a different culture, doing something that you're unfamiliar with or not accustomed to, and at the end, you know, you learn a lot of things, you are gain a lot of skills. You hopefully impact a lot of people's lives for the better. And so it is definitely one of those where it's a great accomplishment, but it's not, you know, it's not one way to say, hey, this was a fun vacation where I got to go play for two years. So it it works out well, and I would absolutely do it again. Michael Hingson  13:31 Yeah, I'm sure you learned a lot, and you probably learned a whole lot more in a lot of ways, than most of the people that you you visited with because you treated it as an adventure and an adventure to learn. So that's pretty cool, absolutely. So you came back from that and you went back to college, and did you continue in electrical engineering? Or what Devin Miller  13:56 did you do? Yes and no. So I did continue in electrical engineering. Or so I came back and, you know, the intent was, and what I continue to do is to study electrical engineering. I did add on a second degree, which I was a Mandarin Chinese and so I can't remember, I mentioned I I served in Taiwan for those couple years and had an opportunity to kind of, you know, learn and study the language. So as I was doing that, I kind of came back and said, Well, if I've already put in the effort to learn the language and to study it, I might as well, you know, utilize it, or add it to the degree. And so I I really started, or I added that as a second degree to the first degree. So I came out with both the degree in Chinese or man or Chinese, as well as electrical engineering. So yes, continue to study that. And then from that, you know, kind of just as a part of that story. So I was coming out, kind of getting, you know, the senior year, kind of getting towards the end of that degree, and looked at and said, you know, what do I want to do when I grow up? And I still know if I know the full answer, but I did look at it and say, Hey, I, you know, I don't know exactly what I want to do when I grow up, but I don't, I like engineering. Engineering, but I don't want to be an engineer in the sense that, you know, not that I didn't like engineering, but it was one where a typical electrical engineers, you come out of graduate school, you go work for a big company. You're a very small cog and a very big Will you work for. You know, 1015, years, you gain enough experience to have any say your direction and what projects you work on or really have any impact. Not saying that's not really what I want to do when I grow up, or when I start into the working world. And so kind of with that, I, you know, I had a couple interests I enjoyed, you know, kind of the startup, small business, kind of that type of world. And I also found it interesting to on the legal aspect of intellectual property, so patents, trademarks, and really more. At the idea of, hey, you're going to work with a lot of cooling or cool inventions, cool people are working on a lot of unique things, and you get a lot more variety. And you get, you know, kind of be more impactful. And so that was kind of the the Crossroads I found myself at saying which, you know, kind of which direction I want to go. And, you know, kind of, rather than take one or the other, I kind of, I split the road and decided I was going to do both. So I went off to graduate school and did both an MBA or a master's in business administration as well as a law degree, kind of focused more on intellectual property. So went off and studied both of those kind of with the intent of, you know, I don't want to just be fit into one box or do just one thing, but I'd like to keep a foot in the business world, startup world, and have an opportunity to pursue my own business as well as doing the law degree. So I did that in a Case Western Reserve out in Cleveland, Ohio, studying both of those degrees Michael Hingson  16:34 when you were getting your degree in manner, in Chinese. Was that all about speaking the language, or was it also involved in history and civilization and understanding more about China? What was it like? Devin Miller  16:47 It was really more, certainly, there was a or, I guess, are you saying within college or within the mission itself? 16:54 In college? Okay, yeah. I mean, it was, Devin Miller  16:57 it was still primarily focused on the language. You know, the nice thing is, you can test out of a number of the, you know, entry level or their beginning classes, as long as you can show a proficiency. So there may have been some of that, and you still got, you know, some of the classes, would you still study a little bit of poetry, or, you know, within the language context, they've used poetry as a way to kind of learn different aspects of the language. You'd get a little bit of history, but pretty, or vast majority of focus was kind of both speaking as well as the the written and, you know, those are really as opposed to, like English speaking, where it's phonetics and you can or sound out and kind of understand what a you know, what something means by sounding it out, you don't have to know the word in order To, you know, to pronounce it. Chinese is not that way. So you have characters that are just every character you have to memorize. There is no phonetics. There's no way that you can look at a character and sound it out. And so there's a large amount of just memorizing, memorizing, you know, 20,000 characters to read a newspaper type of a thing. And then on the flip side is you have to learn the language, which is, you know, which are already focused on that, more on the mission, but you have to do pronunciation, so you can say the same word with different tones and it has entirely different meaning. So really, there was enough there on the language side, they tended to primarily focus on that, just because there was quite a bit there to Michael Hingson  18:19 dive into. It's a complicated language. Devin Miller  18:23 It it is certainly or uniquely different from English. I would say probably English to Chinese speakers is the hardest language because it's the most different from their language. And vice versa for English speaking Chinese is at least one of the this or harder languages because it is entirely different. So it is one that has a lot of intricacies that you get to learn. Michael Hingson  18:45 I took German in high school for three years, and then in college, I did a lot of shortwave listening and encountered radio Japan a bunch. So I actually took a year of Japanese, and I think from a written language, it's a lot more complicated than spoken language. I think it's a lot more straightforward than Chinese and a lot of ways easier to learn. But even so, it is different than than Latin languages by any standard. Devin Miller  19:16 But it is. It's an animal in and of itself, but it makes it fun. Michael Hingson  19:21 Yeah, that's right, it does make it fun. Incident. And then, as I said, it was an adventure. And all of that was, was an adventure. My master's is in physics. That was an adventure. And until you spend a lot of time dealing with physics and hopefully getting beyond just doing the math, you learn how much of a philosophical bent and how much about society and the way things work really is wrapped up in physics. So again, it's it's kind of fun, and unlike a lot of physicists or engineers. I've never thought that one is better or worse than the other. I think they both have purposes. And so as a physics person, I never pick on engineers. Devin Miller  20:11 I am, I wouldn't pick up. I wouldn't pick on any physics or physicists or physics majors, either, because that's equally, if not more difficult. And so there's a lot of learning that goes on and involved with all of them. But they're all of them are fun areas to Michael Hingson  20:26 study with. They are. So once you you got your master's degrees, and you you got your law degree, what did you go off and do? Devin Miller  20:36 Yeah, so I mean, I would probably back it up just a little bit. So kind of during that period where I was getting the degrees, couple things happened. Had a couple kids. So started out first kid while I was doing the, I guess the second year where I was in under or doing the law and MBA degree, doing it as a joint degree. And so had the had a kid. And then during that same period, the next year, about a year about a year and a half later, had another kid. And so that puts me as a it's a four year program, if you combine both of them together. And so I was in the kind of the third year, the four year program. And while I was doing those studies, you know, I had a I was doing a couple things. One is, I was doing the both, or studying both majors, raising the family. I was working about 20 hours as a law clerk or for a law firm, and then during that, I can't remember or if it was a flyer, or if it was, you know, an email or whatnot, but came across a business competition, or it's kind of a, it was kind of a, a multi disciplinary competition wherever, you know, people of different degrees and different fields of study would get together, you form a group of four or five, and you work on developing an idea, and then you would enter it into the competition and see how it goes. And so we did that the first year, and we did something, an idea to make Gym Bags less smelly, and then enter that in and took second place. And during that period, next year comes along, we're all in our final year of our degree. And as we're doing that, we are studying the degree and or entering the competition again. And we decided to do something different. It was for wearables. You know, this is before Apple Watch, or, you know, the Fitbit, or anything else. It was well before I knew that, but we just said, Hey, when I was there, thinking, hey, wouldn't it be cool I'd ran my or, I think, my second marathon that time. Wouldn't it be awesome if you could monitor your hydration level so that you can make sure you're staying well hydrated throughout and it helps with the air, not being a sore and being, you know, quicker recovery and performing better. And so out of that, took the genesis of that idea, entered it back into the business comp, or that is a new idea, into the business competition, and did that with the partners, and took second place again, still a little bitter, or bitter that about that, because the people that took first place has entered the same thing that they entered the previous year, but polished, or took the money they've earned previously and polished it made it look a little nicer, and won again because it looked the most polished. But that aside, was a great, or great competition. Enjoyed it. And from that, you know, said, Hey, I think this is a good idea. I think it can be a, you know, something that you could actually build a business around. And so said, Hey, or kind of told the the people that were in the the group with me, you know, we're all graduating. We're going different directions. Would be pretty hard to do a startup altogether. So why don't we do this? Or why don't you guys take all the money that I got, you know that we you're in some reward money, or, you know, prize money. If you take my portion, split it amongst yourselves, and I'll just take ownership of the idea, whatever it is, where, you know, wherever I take it, and simply own it outright, you know, basically buying them out. And so that's what I did. So coming out of, you know, getting the MBA in the law degree, that was kind of always the intent. So, or coming out of school, I went and joined a law firm here in Utah. Was a full time patent attorney, and then alongside, you know, had the side hustle, what I'd really say is kind of a second full time job to where I was, you know, pursuing that startup or small business alongside of doing the law firm. So that was kind of the the genesis for, as I graduated full time attorney working, you know, with a lot of our cool clients and other things, and then also incorporating the desire to do a startup or small business. And that's kind of been, really, the trajectory that I've taken throughout my career is really, you know, finding ways to combine or to pursue both interests together. Michael Hingson  24:26 What happened to the business? Devin Miller  24:28 Yeah, so it so it's still alive today. I've been, I exited. Now it's been a couple year and a half, two years somewhere in there. Have to think back. So it started out. So with the business I started out, it was actually one where, rewinding just a little bit when we when I got started, my dad was also an electrical engineer. He'd actually, you know, he's well or farther into his career, and he done a number of different things across their medical devices through his career. And so he kind of, or he joined on as kind of doing it with us. Hustle with me, and we took that, started to build it. We brought on some additional team members. We brought on an investor, and actually built out and grew the business. It also evolved. So we were starting to test or test out the technology have it with some colleges and some other, you know, athletes, which was a natural place to start it at and about that time, and we were getting kind of to that next hurdle where we either needed to get a further investment or cash infusion, you know, to kind of take it to a more of a marketable, you know, a except a Polish full or ready to go to market type of product. And at that time, as we're exploring that we had or came or got connected with somebody that was more in the diabetes monitoring, they were doing it more from a service base. But you know, the overlay as to kind of how the technologies are overlapped with what they're doing tended to work out pretty well. And so we ended up combining the business to be one, where it was redirected a lot of the technology we developed underlining to be more of a wearables for the diabetes monitor. So that was a number of years ago. I stayed on doing a lot of, some of the engineering and development, primarily more in the intellectual property realm, of doing a lot of patents and whatnot. And then about a year and a half, two years ago, got bought out, was exited from that company and and that continues on today. It's still alive and growing, and I kind of watch it from, you know, from a distance, so to speak, or kind of continue to maintain interest, but don't are not necessarily active within the business anymore. So that was kind of a long answer to a shorter question, but that's kind of where the business eventually evolved to. Michael Hingson  26:36 So now I'm sure that the company is doing things like developing or working with products like continuous glucose monitors and so on. Devin Miller  26:46 Yep, yeah, that's kind of the direction as to what they're headed you Michael Hingson  26:49 well, and what's what's been interesting about several of the CGM type devices is that for people who are blind, there's been a real push to try to get some of them to be accessible. And what finally occurred about a year ago, maybe two years ago, is that one of the devices that's out there was approved to actually incorporate an app on a smartphone, and when the app came out, then it was really easy, although it took an effort to convince people to pay attention to it and do it, but it became technically a lot easier to deal with access, because all you had to do was to make the app accessible. And so there now is a continuous glucose monitor that that is accessible, whereas you wherein you get all the information from the app through voiceover, for example, on the iPhone or through talkback on a android phone that you get when you're just looking at the screen, which is the way it really should be anyway, because If you're going to do it, you should be inclusive and make it work for everyone. Devin Miller  28:06 No, that's cool. Yeah, there's a number of I think, between, you know, being a prevalent, you know, issue that people are dealing with, to, you know, different trying to address things earlier on, and also to motivate people do healthier lifestyle. And kind of the direction I think, is headed where a lot of the the company that's continues on today, from our original technology, is on the non invasive side. So a lot of them have, you have to have a patch, or you have to have periodically prick, or put an arm, you know, arm, right? Something where has a needle in the arm. And this one is kind of trying hair working to take it to that next level, to where it's no longer having to be invasive, and it's really all without having air with sensors that don't require you to have any sort of pain or prick in order to be able to utilize it. So kind of fun to fun to see how the industry continues to evolve. Michael Hingson  28:55 Well, today, we're working on that, and tomorrow, of course, the tricorder. So you know, we'll, we'll get to Star Trek 29:03 absolutely one step at a time. Michael Hingson  29:05 Yeah, but I've kind of figured that people were certainly working on non invasive technology so that you didn't have to have the sensor stuck in your arm. And I'm not surprised that that that's coming, and we'll be around before too long, just because we're learning so much about other ways of making the measurements that it makes sense to be able to do that. Devin Miller  29:31 Yep, no, absolutely. You know, it is a hard nut to crack. The body is very complex. A lot of things going on, and to measure it, not invasively, is certainly a lot that goes into it, but I think there's a lot of good, good technologies coming out. A lot of progress is being made, and certainly fun to continue to see how the health devices continue to hit the market. So certainly a cool area. Michael Hingson  29:53 So why did you decide, or maybe it was a natural progression, but why did you decide to go into patent law? Yeah. Devin Miller  30:01 I mean, I think it was probably a natural progression, and in the sense that, you know, it is one where overall desire was, Hey, I like engineering from the sense I like to think or how things work and kind of break things down and to have a better understanding. So really, intellectual property law and patents and trademarks and others allowed me to work with a lot of startups and small businesses, see a lot of cool things that they're developing still play a hand in it, and yet, also not, you know, be mired down to a long project over multiple years where you, you know, you're a small cog in a big wheel. And so, yeah, that was kind of one where it fit well within kind of the overall business, you know, business desire and business aspect of what I wanted to accomplish, and also just overall, you know, enjoying it or enjoying it. So that's kind of where it might, you know, it married well with the the desire to do startups and small businesses, as well as to work with a lot of other startups and small businesses. Michael Hingson  30:55 That's a lot of fun, to be able to deal with startups and see a lot of new and innovative kinds of things. And being in patent law, you probably see more than a lot of people, which does get to be exciting in an adventure, especially when you see something that looks like it has so much potential. Yep. Devin Miller  31:14 No, it is. It is fun. I get to see everything from I've worked on everything from boat anchors to credit card thing or devices that help elderly people to remove them more easily, from their wallet to AI to drones to software other or software platforms to medical devices. So it gives a ability to have a pretty good wide exposure to a lot of cool, different, you know, very different types of innovations, and that makes her just, you know, a fun, fun time, and be able to work or work with the air businesses as they develop. Are all those different technologies? Michael Hingson  31:50 Well, on the the law side of things, what's the difference between a provisional patent and a non provisional filing? Devin Miller  31:57 Yeah, so, so I don't back it up, and I'll get to your question. But maybe I'd set the stages to when you're looking at what is the difference between a patent and trademark and copyright, because a lot of times when people look at that, that's probably a good question too. Provisional trademark, or I want a, you know, or a non provisional copyright, or whatever it might be, and kind of get the terminology mixed up. So if you're to take it one step back, a provisional patent app or a patent is something that goes towards protecting an invention. So something that has the functionality that does something, that accomplishes something, a trademark is going to be something that is protecting of a brand. So name of a company, name of a product, a cash, phrase, a logo, and those type of things all really fall under trademarks and copyrights are going to be something that's more creative in nature. So a painting, a sculpture, a picture, a book, you know, all those type of things are going to fall under copyrights. And so really, when you're looking at it, you know, kind of breaking it down initially, you look at it as you know, which one is it. And so now to your question, Michael Hingson  32:58 well, before you go there, before you go ahead, before you go there. So if I'm writing software, does that fall under patent or copyright? I would assume if the software is to do something, it would be a patent. Devin Miller  33:12 So software primarily is under a patent. So there's, technically, you can copyright software. Now there's, it's pretty limited in its scope of protection. So if you're to do or software and do it under a copyright, really, all it protects is the exact way that you wrote the code. So you know, got it using this exact coding language. If somebody come along, copy and paste my code, you'll be protected. But it doesn't protect the functionality of how this code works or what it does. It is purely just how you wrote the code. So most of the time, when you're looking at software, it's really going to be more under a patent, because you're not going to want to just simply protect the identical way that you wrote the code, but rather what it does and what it does, yeah. So yep. So yeah, you for if you're to do as as your example, software, primarily, you're going to it's going to fall under patents. Michael Hingson  34:01 Okay, so anyway, back to provisional and non provisional. Devin Miller  34:05 Yeah, so, and when you're looking at doing a patent, you can do there's a couple different types of patents. One is a design patent. It really just goes to something the esthetic nature, the look and feel of a of an invention. So if you're thinking of the iPhone, you know, used to have the curved edges. I had the circle or a button at the bottom. It had, you know, the speaker placement and all those things. And it was just that outward appearance, not the functionality, could go under a design patent, but what the primary patent, which is what most people pursue, is what's called the utility patent application. And the utility patent application is really going towards the functionality of how something works. So the utility, how it works, what it does, and then kind of the purpose of it. And so with that, when you're looking at pursuing a utility patent application, there are a couple different types of patents that you can or types of utility patent patent applications. So. As you mentioned, one is called a provisional patent application. The other one is called a non provisional patent application. So a provisional patent application is kind of set up primarily, a lot of times for startups or small businesses where they're going to have a some product or an innovation that they're working on. They're in earlier stages. They're wanting to kind of protect what they have while they continue to develop it, and kind of flush it out. So provisional patent application is set up to be a one year placeholder application. So it will get, you know, you file it, you'll get patent pending, you'll get a date of invention, and it'll give you a year to decide if you want to pursue a full patent application or not. So you can file that gives you that one year time frame as a placeholder. The non provisional patent application would be the full patent application. So that would be what has, all the functionality, all the features, all the air, formalities and air, and it will go through the examination process. We'll go look at it for patentability. So those are kind of the difference provisional, one year, placeholder, less expensive, get your patent pending, versus the non provisional, that's the full patent application and gives you kind of that, or we'll go through examination. Michael Hingson  36:12 Do most people go through the provisional process just because it not only is less expensive, but at least it puts a hold and gives you a place. Devin Miller  36:22 It really just depends on where people are at. So kind of, you know, a lot of times people ask, Hey, well, what would you recommend? And I'll usually say, hey, there are typically two reasons why I would do a provisional patent application. And if you don't fall into either of those camps, then I would probably do a non provisional patent. Got it. So generally, the two reasons I get one is certainly budgetary. Give you an example. So our flat fee, you know, we do our primarily everything, flat fee in my firm, and a provisional patent application to prepare and file it, our flat fee is 2500 versus a non provisional patent application is 6950 so one is, Hey, your startup, small business, to have a limited funds, you're wanting to get a level of protection in place while you continue to pursue or develop things, then you would oftentimes do that as a provisional patent application. And the other reason, a lot of times where I would recommend it is, if you're saying, Hey, we've got a initial innovation, we think it's going to be great. We're still figuring things out, so we'd like to get something in place while we continue to do that research and develop it and kind of further figure it out. So that would be kind of, if you fall into one of those camps where it's either budgetary overlay, or it's one where you're wanting to get something in place and then take the next year to further develop it, then a provisional patent application is oftentimes a good route. There are also a lot of clients say, Hey, I'm, you know, we are pretty well. Did the Research Development getting ready to release it in the marketplace. While we don't have unlimited funds, we still have the ability to just simply go or go straight to a non provisional so we can get the examination process started, and then they'll go that route. So both of them are viable route. It's not kind of necessarily. One is inherently better or worse than the other is kind of more where you're at along the process and what, what kind of fits your needs the best. Michael Hingson  38:09 But at least there is a process that gives you options, and that's always good. Absolutely, patent laws, I well, I won't say it's straightforward, but given you know, in in our country today, we've got so many different kinds of things going on in the courts and all that, and sometimes one can only shake one's head at some of the decisions that are made regarding politics and all that, but that just seems to be a whole lot more complicated and a lot less straightforward than what you do With patent law? Is that really true? Or are there lots of curves that people bend things to go all sorts of different ways that make life difficult for you? Devin Miller  38:50 Um, probably a little bit of both. I think that it so. The law, legal system in general, is a much more slower moving enemy, so it does have a bit more of a kind of a basis to anticipate where things are headed in general. Now, the exception is, there always is an exception to the rule. Is that anytime the Supreme Court gets involved with patent law cases, I'd say 95% of the time, they make it worse rather than better. So, you know, you get judges that none of them are really have an experience or background in patent law. They've never done it. They really don't have too much familiarity with it, and now they're getting posed questions that are fairly involved in intricate and most of the time when they make decisions, they make it worse. It's less clear. You know, it's not as great of understanding, and it otherwise complicates things more. And so when you get the Supreme Court involved, then they can kind of make it more difficult or kind of shake things up. But by and large, it is a not that there isn't a lot of or involved in going through the process to convince the patent and examiner the patent office of patentability and make sure it's well drafted and has the it's good of coverage and scope, but at least there is, to a degree, that ability to anticipate. Hate, you know what it what's going to be required, or what you may likely to be looking at. You know? The other exception is, is, you know, the, ironically, I think the patent office is the only budget or producing or budget positive entity within all of the government. So every other part of the government spends much more money than they ever make. The Patent Office is, I think the, I think the postal office at one point was the other one, and they have, now are always in the in the red, and never make any money. But, you know, they are the patent office. Now, the problem with that is, you think, great, well now they can reinvest. They can approve, they should have the best technology, they should be the most up to date. They should have, you know, all the resources because they're self funding, and yet, there's always a piggy bank that the government goes to raid and redirects all those funds to other pet projects. And so, or the patent office is always, perpetually underfunded, as ironic as that is, because they're getting, always getting the piggy bank rated, and so with that, you know, they are, if you're to go into a lot of the patent office, their interfaces, their websites or databases, their systems, it feels like you're the onset of the or late 90s, early 2000s as far as everything goes. And so that always is not necessarily your question, but it's always a bit aggravating that you know you can't, as an example, can't submit color drawings. People ask, can you submit videos? Nope, you can't submit any videos of your invention, you know, can you provide, you know, other types of information? Nope, it's really just a written document, and it is line drawings that are black and white, and you can't submit anything beyond that. So there's one where I think eventually it will sometime, maybe shift or change, but it's going to be not anytime soon. I don't think there's any time on the horizon, because they're kind of stuck it once they move, moved over to the lit or initially onto the computer system, that's about where that evolution stopped. Michael Hingson  41:51 Well, the other thing though, with with videos, especially when you get AI involved and so on, are you really seeing a video of the invention. Or are you seeing something that somebody created that looks great, but the invention may not really do it. So I can understand their arguments, but there have to be ways to deal with that stuff. Devin Miller  42:13 Yeah, and I think that even be prior to AI, even we just had, you know, videos been around for 20 or 30 years, even, you know, digital format or longer. That probably, and the problem is, I think it's more of the search ability. So if you have a drawing, you can more easily search drawings and compare them side by side, and they'll do it. If you have a video, you know what? What format is the video? And is it a, you know, dot movie, or dot MOV, or is it.mp for is it color? Is it black and white? How do you capture it? Is it zoomed in as a kind of show all the details? Or is it zoomed out? And I think that there's enough difficulty in comparing video side by side and having a rigid enough or standardized format, the patent office said, man, we're not going to worry about it. Yes, so we could probably figure something out, but that's more work than anybody, any administration or any of the directors of the patent office ever want to tackle so it's just always kind of kicked down the road. Michael Hingson  43:06 Do they ever actually want to see the invention itself? Devin Miller  43:12 Not really, I mean, you so the short answer is no. I mean, they want to see the invention as it's captured within the the patent application. So the problem Michael Hingson  43:21 is, the drawing, they don't want to see the actual device, or whatever it is, well, and a lot Devin Miller  43:24 of times, you know as a inventors, they you know as a patent applicants, as the inventors and the owners, you're saying, hey, but I want to show them the invention. Problem is, the invention doesn't always mirror exactly what's showing in the patent application. Because you're on generation three of your product patent application is still in generation one, yeah, and so it doesn't mirror, and so the examiners are supposed to, they don't always, or aren't always good, and sometimes pull things and they shouldn't, but they're supposed to just consider whatever is conveyed in the patent application. Yeah, it's a closed world. And so bringing those additional things in now you can, so technically, you can request a live in office interview with the examiner, where you sit down live. You can bring in your invention or other or details and information, and when you do it live, face to face with an interview, you can walk them through it. Most very few people attorneys ever do that because one clients aren't going to want to pay for you to one of the offices, put you up in a hotel, you know, sit there, spend a day or two to or with the examiner to walk them through it. It just adds a significant amount of expense. Examiners don't particularly like it, because they have to dedicate significantly more time to doing that. Yeah, they're allotted, so they lose they basically are doing a lot of free work, and then you're pulling in a lot of information that they really can't consider. So you technically can. But I would say that you know, the likelihood of the majority of attorneys, 99 point whatever, percent don't do that, including myself. I've never been to do a live or live one, just because it just doesn't, it doesn't have enough advantage to make it worthwhile. Michael Hingson  44:58 Well, in talking about. About the law and all the things that go on with it. One of the things that comes to mind is, let's say you have somebody in the United States who's patenting, or has made a patent. What happens when it all goes to it gets so popular, or whatever, that now it becomes an international type of thing. You've got, I'm sure, all sorts of laws regarding intellectual property and patents and so on internationally. And how do you get protection internationally for a product? Devin Miller  45:32 File it in each country separately. So, you know, there are people, and I understand the inclinations, hey, I want to get a worldwide or global patent that covers everything in every country. The short answer is, you can't. I mean, technically, you could, if you file a patent into every country separately, nobody, including when I used to work or do work for companies including Intel and Amazon and Red Hat and Ford. They don't have patents in every single country throughout the world because they just don't have enough marketplace. You know, you go to a very small, let's say, South African country that you know, where they just don't sell their product enough in it, it just doesn't make the sense, or the courts or the systems or the patent office isn't well enough to find, or it's not enforceable enough that it just doesn't capture that value. And so there isn't a ability to have a global, worldwide patent, and it really is one where you have to file into each country separately. They each have their own somewhat similar criteria, still a different, somewhat similar process, but they each have their own criteria in their process that has to go through examination. So when you're looking at you know when you want to go for whether it's in the US or any other country, when you're deciding where you want to file it, it's really a matter of what marketplaces you're going to be selling the product into. So if you look at it and you know, I have as an example, some clients that 95% of their marketplace is all in the US, that's where they anticipate, that's probably where they're going to sell it. Well, yes, you could go and find, if you have 2% of your marketplace in Japan, you could go file a patent and get it into Japan, but you have such a small amount of your marketplace that's probably there that it doesn't make sense. And vice versa will have as an example. And a lot of times in the medical devices, they'll a lot of times file both in the EU as well as in the US, because those are two of the predominant medical device and are places where a lot of innovation is going on, where there's a lot of focus on utilization, development, medical devices, and there's just a lot of that demand. And so you're really going to look at it is which, where's your marketplace. The other times are the people, a lot of times, they'll get tripped up on so they'll say, Well, I probably need to file into China, right? And I said, Well, maybe because the inclination is, well, everybody just goes to China. They'll knock off the product. And so I want to have a patent in China so that I can, you know, fight against the knockoffs. And that isn't while I again, understand why they would ask that question. It wouldn't be the right way to convey it. Because if you if all it is is they you have no real, you know, no desire, no plan, to go into China. You're not going to sell it. You're not going to build a business there. If they're knocking it off and just just doing it in China, so to speak, then they're not. There isn't going to be a need to file a patent in China, because you don't have any marketplace in there. There's nothing really to protect. And if somebody makes it in China as a just picking on China, making as an example, and imports it into the US, you can still enforce your patent or otherwise do or utilize it to stop people from importing knock off because it's in the US, because they're, yeah, exactly, they're selling it, importing it, or otherwise doing activities in the US. So it's really a matter of where your marketplace is, not where you think that somebody might knock it off. Or, Hey, I'm gonna get a try and get a global patent, even though my marketplace is really in one or two spots. Michael Hingson  48:38 What about products like, say, the iPhone, which are commonly used all over. Devin Miller  48:44 Yeah, they're going to do, they'll do a lot of countries. They still Michael Hingson  48:47 won't do. They'll still do kind of country by country. Devin Miller  48:50 Yeah, they'll now, they'll do a lot of countries. Don't get me wrong, a lot of right. Phones are sold throughout the world, but they'll still look at it as to where it is, and they still have, you know, issues with them. So one of the interesting tidbits as an example, so going back and rewinding your time, taking apple as an example. You know, they came out with, originally, the iPod, then they had iPhone, and then they had the iPad. Now the question is, when they originally came out with their watch, what did they call it? 49:17 Apple Watch? Apple Watch. Now, why Devin Miller  49:20 didn't they call the I wash, which is what it made sense. It goes right along with the iPhone, the iPad, the iPhone, you know, the all of those iPod on that. And it was because somebody had already got a trademark in China that was for a different company, unrelated to the apple that had it for the iWatch. And so when Apple tried to go into the country, they tried to negotiate. They tried to bully. They weren't able to successfully get the rights or to be able to use I wash within China. China was a big enough market, and so they had and rather than try and split it and call it the I wash everywhere but China and trying to have the Apple Watch in China, they opted to call it the Apple Watch. Now I think they might. Of eventually resolve that, and I think it's now can be referred to as the I watch, I'm not sure, but for, at least for a long period of time, they couldn't. They called it the Apple Watch when they released it, for that reason. So even if you have, you know, a big company and one of the biggest ones in the world, you still have to play by the same rules. And why, you can try and leverage your your size and your wealth and that to get your way, there's still those, there's still those hindrances. So that's kind of maybe a side, a side note, but it's kind of one that's interesting. Michael Hingson  50:30 So that's the trademark of how you name it. But how about the technology itself? When the Apple Watch was created, I'm assuming that they were able to patent that. Devin Miller  50:39 Yeah, they will have, I'm sure they probably have anywhere from 30 to 100 to 200 I mean, they'll have a significant amount of patents, even it's just within the Apple Watch, everything from the screen, the display, how it's waterproof, how it does communications, how does the battery management, how does the touch, how does the interface, all of those are going to be different aspects that they continue to, you know, did it originally in the original Apple Watch, and are always iterating and changing as they continue to improve the technology. So generally, you know that, I'm sure that you will start out with as a business of protecting you're getting a foundational patent where you kind of protect the initial invention, but if it's successful and you're building it out, you're going to continue to file a number of patents to capture those ongoing innovations, and then you're going to file it into all of the countries where you have a reasonable market size that makes it worthwhile to make the investment. Michael Hingson  51:32 So if you have a new company and they've got a name and all that, what should new businesses do in terms of looking and performing a comprehensive search for of trademarks and so on to make sure they are doing the right thing. Devin Miller  51:49 Yeah, a couple of things. I mean, it wanted, if you're it depends on the size of company, your budget, there's always the overlay of, you know, you can want to do everything in the world, and if you don't have the budget, then you have to figure out what goes in your budget. But if I'll take it from kind of a startup or a small business perspective, you know, you first thing you should do is just as stupid and as easy as it sounds, you should go do a Google search. Or, now that you have chat GPT, go do a chat BT search and a Google search. But, you know, because it's interesting as it sounds, or, you know, is you think that, oh, that's, you know, kind of give me or an automatic I'll have still even till today, people come into my office. They'll say, Hey, I've got this great idea, this great invention, and a Lacher getting a patent on it, and they'll start to walk me through it. I'm like, you know, I could have sworn I've seen that before. I've seen something very similar. We'll sit down at my desk, take two minutes, do a Google search, and say, so is this a product that you're thinking of? Oh, yeah, that's exactly it. Okay. Well, you can't really get a patent on something that's already been invented and out there, and so, you know, do a little bit of research yourself. Now there is a double edged sword, because you can do research and sometimes you'll have one or two things happen. You'll not having the experience and background, not entirely knowing what you're doing. You'll do research, and you'll either one say, Hey, I've done a whole bunch of research. I can't really find anything that's similar. When, in fact, there's a lot of similar things out there. There's a patent, and people will say, yeah, it's the same, it's the same invention, but my purpose is a little bit different. Well, you can't if it's the exact same or invention. Whether or not you say your purpose is different, doesn't get around their patent and same thing on a trademark. Yeah, their brand's pretty much 53:20 identical, but they're Devin Miller  53:21 doing legal services and I'm doing legal tools, and so it's different, and it's, again, it's one where there's there they have a false sense of security because they rationalize in their head why it's different, or vice versa. You also get people that will say, Hey, this is even though it's significantly different, it's the same purpose. And so while, while they really could go do the product, while they could get a patent or a trademark, because they think that it's just overall kind of the same concept, then they talk themselves out of it when they don't need to. So I would say, start out doing some of that initial research. I would do it if I was in their shoes, but temper it with, you know, do it as an initial review. If there's something that's identical or the same that's out there, then it gives you an idea. Probably, you know, you're not going to be able to add a minimum, get or patent their intellectual property protection, and you may infringe on someone else's but if you you know, if there's, there's some differences, or have to do that initial research, that's probably the time, if you're serious about, you know, investing or getting business up and going, you've probably engaged an attorney to do a more formal search, where they have the experience in the background and ability to better give a better understanding or determination as to whether or not something presents an issue. Michael Hingson  54:32 Yeah, well, that's understandable. If I've developed something and I have a patent for it, then I suddenly discovered that people are selling knockoffs or other similar devices on places like Amazon and so on. What do you do about that? Because I'm sure there must be a bunch of that that that does go on today. Devin Miller  54:53 Yeah, yes, it does. I mean, I wouldn't say it's not as probably as prevalent as some people think. In other words, not every single. Product, right, being knocked off. Not everything is copied. Sometimes it's because, you know, either I don't have the ability, I don't have the investment, I don't have the, you know, it's not as big enough marketplace, I don't have the manufacturing, I don't have the connections, or it is simply, am respectful, and I'm not going to go do a discord because I'm not going to try and rip off, you know, what I think is someone else's idea. So it doesn't happen that as frequently as I think sometimes people think it does, but it certainly does occur. You know, there's a competitive marketplace, there's a profit incentive, and if there's a good product that's out there that people think they can do something with, and there's a motivation to do it, either because people are unaware that it's an issue, or that they they're unaware that they can't copy it or is protected. And so if you get into that, you know, there's a few potentially different recourses. One is, you know, a lot of times you'll start out with the cease and desist.

Thoughtful Faith
My Interview With A Famous Christian YouTuber | Ft. ‪@RuslanKD‬

Thoughtful Faith

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2026 26:54


Are Mormons Christians? ‪@RuslanKD‬ presses hard on this question during this interview and announces that Jacob Hansen will be debating ‪@GodLogicApologetics‬ in March at this years Bless God Summit. Details in the link below. Bless God Summit: https://www.blessgodsummit.com/Our LinksWebsite: http://thoughtfulfaith.orgInstagram:   / thoughtful.faith  TikTok:   / thoughtful.faith  Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1478749DISCLAIMER: The views expressed in this video are entirely the opinion of the creator and do not necessarily reflect any officially endorsed positions of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints or channel sponsors.

Anything But Quiet Time with Rachelle & Carder
343 A Christian and Mormons

Anything But Quiet Time with Rachelle & Carder

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 26, 2026 10:44


How does one go about talking to someone with another viewpoint on faith? Carder talks about his experience talking with missionaries from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints that led to his new podcast.

Come Follow Me Kids
Genesis 5⁠; Moses 6 - Enoch and The City of Zion

Come Follow Me Kids

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 26, 2026 15:05


From the Come Follow Me Manual:Most of Genesis 5 is a list of the generations between Adam and Eve and Noah. We read a lot of names, but we don't learn much about them. Then we read this intriguing but unexplained line: “And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him” (⁠Genesis 5:24⁠). Surely there's a story behind that verse! But without further explanation, the list of generations resumes.Thankfully, Moses 6 reveals the details of Enoch's story—and it's quite a story. We learn of Enoch's humility, his insecurities, the potential God saw in him, and the great work he performed as God's prophet. We also get a clearer picture of the family of Adam and Eve as it progressed through the generations. We read of Satan's “great dominion” but also of parents who taught children “the ways of God” (⁠Moses 6:15, 21⁠). Especially precious is what we learn about the doctrine these parents taught: faith in Jesus Christ, repentance, baptism, and receiving the Holy Ghost (see Moses 6:50–52⁠). That doctrine, like the priesthood that accompanies it, “was in the beginning [and] shall be in the end of the world also” (⁠Moses 6:7⁠).Song from this episode: I am Divine by listener Amanda and her son Tate. This podcast is an Old Testament Bible study podcast for primary children of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. It follows the come follow me manual. You're listening to Come Follow Me Kids!A Come Follow Me Podcast for Primary Kids of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.We are an interactive game play podcast for kids. Children will learn shout the scriptures while playing games that go with the Come Follow Me Lessons from the church.This year we are studying the Old Testament . If you are looking for a scripture study Podcast for Primary Kids, look no further! Our podcast is called Come Follow Me Kids. Come Follow Me for kids that are primary aged 2-12 in the Church or Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. We follow the come follow me manual from the church but are not officially affiliated in any way. Some audio segments come from the friend magazine and other church sources. On this podcast we play interactive games while learning about the gospel and atonement of Jesus Christ.If your children would like to be guests on this podcast or to receive a baptism shout out, please email us at their info at comefollowmekidspodcast@gmail.com 

For All The Saints
The Surprising History Of LDS Chapels In The UK - James Perry | 126

For All The Saints

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 26, 2026 48:26


James Perry is a historian and author of 'Brick by Brick: Early Latter-day Saint Meeting Places in the British Isles.' I wanted to speak to James about the lesser known stories of British 'Church-building missionaries' who built the Latter-day Saint chapels that we still worship in today.Some highlights from this episode include James's favourite journal entry from a Church-building missionary, what the safety conditions were like, and why the Church donated £6 million to this chapel-building effort.--You can find more of James's work at the following link:- https://www.deseretbook.com/product/6091205.htmlFollow For All The Saints on social media for updates and inspiring content:www.instagram.com/forallthesaintspodhttps://www.facebook.com/forallthesaintspod/For All The Saints episodes are released every Monday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts and more:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVDUQg_qZIU&list=UULFFf7vzrJ2LNWmp1Kl-c6K9Qhttps://open.spotify.com/show/3j64txm9qbGVVZOM48P4HS?si=bb31d048e05141f2https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/for-all-the-saints/id1703815271If you have feedback or any suggestions for topics or guests, connect with Ben & Sean via hello@forallthesaints.org or DM on InstagramConversations to Refresh Your Faith.For All The Saints podcast was established in 2023 by Ben Hancock to express his passion and desire for more dialogue around faith, religious belief, and believers' perspectives on the topics of our day. Tune into For All The Saints every Monday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more.Follow For All The Saints on social media for daily inspiration.

Like a Watered Garden
Your Potential & Purpose (Moses 1, Abraham 3)

Like a Watered Garden

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 25, 2026 45:09


In this episode, we explore what it means to truly talk to God—and listen—as we reflect on Moses 1 and Abraham 3. We examine the tension between feeling small and being created for greatness, consider our divine and personal purpose, and what it means to say, “Here am I. Send me.” This episode invites you to remember who you are, whose you are, and how eternal life begins now as we come unto Christ and allow Him to shape who we are becoming.Find the Study Guide for this & other episodes & SUBSCRIBE to our email list here:  http://www.likeawateredgarden.comAbout this podcast:Welcome to Like a Watered Garden, a Come Follow Me-inspired mental health & personal growth podcast that shows you how to personalize the scriptures to help you “overcome, become, and flourish” in physical, mental, emotional, social, and spiritual health & wellness, so you may feel, as Isaiah writes, “...like a watered garden and a spring whose waters fail not.”Join host Dr. Christina Hibbert -- clinical psychologist, author, speaker, wife & mom, & member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints -- for our 1st season, as we follow the Come Follow Me manual and learn in The Old Testament. Our goal is to draw closer to Christ as we study and find Him everywhere in this holy and anciet text.To learn more about Dr. Christina Hibbert, please visit http://www.drchristinahibbert.com  or http://www.instagram.com/drchristinahibbert or http://www.facebook.com/DrCHibbert To learn more about this podcast & find bonus materials visit http://www.likeawateredgarden.com and/or Instagram, http://www.instagram.com/likeawatered.garden Join our "Like a Watered Garden Podcast FB Discussion Group," by visiting  http://www.facebook.com/groups/likeawateredgardenOriginal music written & performed by Braxton HibbertPlease rate/review this podcast! Let's connect: http://www.likeawateredgarden.com http://www.instagram.com/likeawatered.garden http://www.instagram.com/drchristinahibbert http://www.facebook.com/groups/likeawateredgarden

Thoughtful Faith
The New Testament: A Summary. And Why Some People Just Don't Get It

Thoughtful Faith

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 20, 2026 18:54


What is the New Testament? What were its authors trying to convey? What is its central ideas and themes?  Why does it matter? Our LinksWebsite: http://thoughtfulfaith.orgInstagram:   / thoughtful.faithTikTok:   / thoughtful.faithPodcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1478749DISCLAIMER: The views expressed in this video are entirely the opinion of the creator and do not necessarily reflect any officially endorsed positions of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints or channel sponsors.

Come Follow Me Kids
The Fall of Adam and Eve - Genesis 3-4

Come Follow Me Kids

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 19, 2026 16:49


Old Testament Bible Study Podcast For KidsCome Follow Me Podcast Produced by a mom who attends the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. This is a primary podcast for Latter Day Saint kids. We are studying the Old Testament this year and following the come follow me manual. This week we are studying the fall of Adam and Eve. The garden of Eden You're listening to Come Follow Me Kids!A Come Follow Me Podcast for Primary Kids of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.We are an interactive game play podcast for kids. Children will learn shout the scriptures while playing games that go with the Come Follow Me Lessons from the church.This year we are studying the Old Testament. Our podcast is called Come Follow Me Kids. Come Follow Me for kids that are primary aged 2-12 in the Church or Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. We follow the come follow me manual from the church but are not officially affiliated in any way. Some audio segments come from the friend magazine and other church sources. On this podcast we play interactive games while learning about the gospel and atonement of Jesus Christ.If your children would like to be guests on this podcast or to receive a baptism shout out, please email us at their info at comefollowmekidspodcast@gmail.com 

Inside Sources with Boyd Matheson
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints partners with the NAACP

Inside Sources with Boyd Matheson

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 19, 2026 10:42


  Sarah Jane Weaver, Editor of the Deseret News, joins Greg and Holly to discuss the unlikely alliance between the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the NAACP.  

For All The Saints
Behind The Scenes: Life As A Latter-day Saint Military Chaplain - Brandt Peacock | 125

For All The Saints

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 19, 2026 75:38


Brandt Peacock is a chaplain in the US military. I wanted to speak to Brandt to understand how someone qualifies for that role and what it entails, especially the specifics about being a military chaplain when his faith is as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.Some highlights from this episode include Brandt's journey to becoming a military chaplain, his most touching experience in his ministry, and what a standard day is like.Follow For All The Saints on social media for updates and inspiring content:www.instagram.com/forallthesaintspodhttps://www.facebook.com/forallthesaintspod/For All The Saints episodes are released every Monday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts and more:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVDUQg_qZIU&list=UULFFf7vzrJ2LNWmp1Kl-c6K9Qhttps://open.spotify.com/show/3j64txm9qbGVVZOM48P4HS?si=bb31d048e05141f2https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/for-all-the-saints/id1703815271If you have feedback or any suggestions for topics or guests, connect with Ben & Sean via hello@forallthesaints.org or DM on InstagramConversations to Refresh Your Faith.For All The Saints podcast was established in 2023 by Ben Hancock to express his passion and desire for more dialogue around faith, religious belief, and believers' perspectives on the topics of our day. Tune into For All The Saints every Monday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more.Follow For All The Saints on social media for daily inspiration.

Scholars & Saints
Belief and Belonging in the 21st Century | Panel Discussion (feat. Laurie Maffly-Kipp, Matthew Hedstrom, Rosemary Avance, and Jana Riess)

Scholars & Saints

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 16, 2026 63:20 Transcription Available


Religious identities have shifted dramatically in the last quarter century. But how, and it what ways? Is religion as we once knew it dying in the U.S.? Or are people finding other ways of expressing the same kinds of needs for affiliation and meaning in different forms? What do people really mean when they say they are spiritual but not religious? Or religious but not affiliated with any traditional communities or institutions?This panel discussion, held on October 25, 2025, centered around what recent trends might tell us about the future of faith and belonging in American life. Our panel of experts, moderated by Bushman Chair Laurie Maffly-Kipp, explored one of the most communitarian traditions, the Mormon faith, as well as other American religious affiliations and spiritual identities.Visit our website to learn more.PanelistsRosemary Avance is Assistant Professor of Media and Strategic Communications at Oklahoma State University. Her research focuses on the interplay between social dynamics, communication technologies, and identity formation across diverse domains. Avance's recent book, Mediated Mormons: Shifting Religious Identities in the Digital Age, examines case studies of practicing and former Latter-day Saints to understand how these individuals relate to the church, the internet, and modernity during our media-saturated age.Matthew Hedstrom is Associate Professor of Religious Studies at the University of Virginia. He specializes in religion and culture in the late nineteenth and twentieth centuries, particularly examining the intersections of American modernity and Protestant and post-Protestant religious modernity in the United States. Within this field, Professor Hedstrom studies the rise in spirituality among Americans who aren't tied to particular religious institutions, as explored in his 2012 book The Rise of Liberal Religion: Book Culture and American Spirituality in the Twentieth Century, and his popular undergraduate course: “'Spiritual But Not Religious': Spirituality in America”.Jana Riess is an author, editor, and senior columnist for Religion News Service. Her written works have primarily focused on the intersections of American religion with popular culture, ethics, and society. Riess's most recent book, The Next Mormons: How Millennials Are Changing the LDS Church (Oxford University Press, 2019) discusses the faith practices and institutional distrust of Millennial Mormons. She is currently writing a follow-up book, based on her research with Benjamin Knoll, about the Mormon faith crisis and changing understandings of belonging among Latter-day Saints.ModeratorLaurie Maffly-Kipp is the Richad Lyman Bushman Chair of Mormon Studies at the University of Virginia. She is a distinguished scholar of American religious history and has authored numerous influential works on Mormonism, religion in the American West, and African American religious history. Over the past few decades, Professor Maffly-Kipp has become an influential interpreter of Latter-day Saint history and participated in shaping the field of Mormon Studies. She is also a former president of the American Society of Church History and the Mormon History Association.

DJ & PK
Tom Holmoe: Eager to Step into New Role as Mission President for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

DJ & PK

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 15, 2026 18:23


Former BYU athletic director Tom Holmoe joined DJ & PK to talk about his new calling as a mission president for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Oakland and San Francisco, California.

Cwic Media
Did President Oaks Lower The Marriage Age For Latter-day Saints?

Cwic Media

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2026 20:13


In an interview over the weekend, President Oaks stated that by lowering the mission age for women, we should start to see marriage ages dropping. What do you think of that? I fully agree that this would be a good thing. Are we planning on invading Iran? What did President Trump's post mean when he said, "Help Is On The Way." Cwic Media Website: http://www.cwicmedia.com 

Raised with Jesus
MWUTT 18: How do Christians view Latter-day Saints?

Raised with Jesus

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2026 69:49


Thoughtful Faith
The Fascinating Reasons Why Politics Divide The Church

Thoughtful Faith

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2026 115:20


Join a Liberal, Conservative and Independent Latter-day Saints as they explore their different ways they justify their political opinions.  Are our politics separate from our religion? How can people of the same religion have such wildly different political perspectives? Our LinksWebsite: http://thoughtfulfaith.orgInstagram:   / thoughtful.faithTikTok:   / thoughtful.faithPodcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1478749DISCLAIMER: The views expressed in this video are entirely the opinion of the creator and do not necessarily reflect any officially endorsed positions of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints or channel sponsors.

Come Follow Me Kids
In the Beginning God Created the Heaven and the Earth - Creation Podcast For Kids

Come Follow Me Kids

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 12, 2026 18:44


In the Beginning God Created the Heaven and the EarthCreation Podcast For Kids January 12–18: “In the Beginning God Created the Heaven and the Earth”Genesis 1–2⁠; Moses 2–3⁠; Abraham 4–5Because the world around us is so beautiful and majestic, it's hard to imagine the earth when it was “without form, and void” and “empty and desolate” (⁠Genesis 1:2⁠; Abraham 4:2⁠). One thing the Creation story teaches us is that God can, over time, make something magnificent out of something unorganized. That's helpful to remember when life seems chaotic. Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ are Creators, and Their creative work with us is not finished. They can make light shine in dark moments in our lives. They can fill our emptiness with life. They can transform us into the divine beings we were meant to be. That's what it means to be created in God's image, after His likeness (see Genesis 1:26⁠). We have the potential to become like Him: exalted, glorified, heavenly.This week kids will learn: “By mine Only Begotten I created these things.” Jesus Christ created the earth under Heavenly Fathers direction. Jesus created the earth.I am created in the image of God. “We were made to look like our heavenly parents and should treat our bodies with respect.” I was created in God's image.Your children can develop a sense of reverence and respect for their own and others' bodies as they learn that we were all created in God's imageI am responsible for caring for God's creations.God blessed and sanctified the Sabbath day.Practical tips and role playing for kids to practice explaining why they keep the sabbath day holy to their peers. The Sabbath day is holy.Audio about the creation taken from see “⁠The Creation of the Earth⁠” in Old Testament Stories⁠, 8–12). The 7 days of creation for kids! If you are new here - welcome! We are Come Follow Me Kids a primary podcast for kids who attend the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. This year we are a Bible study podcast for kids, specifically an Old Testament study podcast for kids. We play games, sing songs, and listen to stories about the Old Testament. We also enhance our biblical knowledge through the Old Testament. If your children would like a baptism shout out or to be guests on the podcast, please email us at come followmekidspodcast@gmail.com We are not officially affiliated with the church of Jesus Christ in any way. Just believers. Enjoy!

For All The Saints
What Does 'Redeeming The Dead' Actually Mean & Where Did It Come From? - Amy Harris | 124

For All The Saints

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 12, 2026 58:42


Latter-day Saints are familiar with the mission of redeeming the dead, but are we looking at the whole picture?Amy Harris is an associate professor of history and family/history genealogy and the author of 'Redeeming The Dead,' which is part of the Doctrine & Covenants Themes series.I wanted to speak to Amy to get a greater understanding of her expansive and empowering view of redeeming the dead, and practical tips on how to engage in the work of it.Some highlights from this episode include the history of redeeming the dead, why it isn't just Temple work, and how anyone can start getting involved today.--You can find more of Amy's work at the following links:- https://mi.byu.edu/publications-section/themes-in-the-doctrine-and-covenants-redeeming-the-deadFollow For All The Saints on social media for updates and inspiring content:www.instagram.com/forallthesaintspodhttps://www.facebook.com/forallthesaintspod/For All The Saints episodes are released every Monday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts and more:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVDUQg_qZIU&list=UULFFf7vzrJ2LNWmp1Kl-c6K9Qhttps://open.spotify.com/show/3j64txm9qbGVVZOM48P4HS?si=bb31d048e05141f2https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/for-all-the-saints/id1703815271If you have feedback or any suggestions for topics or guests, connect with Ben & Sean via hello@forallthesaints.org or DM on InstagramConversations to Refresh Your Faith.For All The Saints podcast was established in 2023 by Ben Hancock to express his passion and desire for more dialogue around faith, religious belief, and believers' perspectives on the topics of our day. Tune into For All The Saints every Monday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more.Follow For All The Saints on social media for daily inspiration.

Latter-Day Lights: Inspirational LDS Stories
Modern Miracles from the Medical World: Dr. Mark Saunders' Story - Latter-Day Lights

Latter-Day Lights: Inspirational LDS Stories

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 11, 2026 47:36 Transcription Available


When life feels uncertain and stakes are high on the operating table, how do we learn to trust in the Lord's plan?On this week's episode of Latter-Day Lights, Scott and Emily sit down with Dr. Mark T. Saunders, a semi-retired OB/GYN whose quiet, faithful listening opened the door to dozens of sacred and miraculous stories. While conducting his routinely in-home medical visits, Mark found that his patients—often without prompting—felt compelled to share their deeply personal experiences of divine intervention, healing, and guidance from the Holy Ghost.From a young student almost facing the loss of his leg, to near-death experiences, and unmistakable moments of revelation, Mark reflects on how these encounters strengthened his testimony that God will always a God of miracles no matter the circumstances. This conversation explores the difference between trusting in the wisdom of the world, and learning to rely fully on personal revelation, spiritual sensitivity, and the intentional direction of the Spirit.Rooted in scripture, lived experience, and divine inspiration, this episode is an invitation to slow down, listen more closely, and rediscover what it means to place unwavering trust in the Lord—even when the path forward feels like it's coming to an end.*** Please SHARE Dr. Saunders' story and help us spread hope and light to others. ***To WATCH this episode on YouTube, visit: https://youtu.be/bihxYdh6GzM-----To READ Dr. Saunders' book, "Learning to Trust in The Lord," visit: https://a.co/d/0OLMSuKTo READ Scott's new book “Faith to Stay” for free, visit: https://www.faithtostay.com/-----Keep updated with us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/latter.day.lights/Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/latterdaylightsAlso, if you have a faith-promoting or inspiring story, or know someone who does, please let us know by going to https://www.latterdaylights.com and reaching out to us.

My 99 Cousins
64: Cousin 105 - Adam A G Part 2

My 99 Cousins

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 8, 2026 49:10 Transcription Available


**Listener Discretion is Advised** - This episode contains very sensitive and mature topics including conversion therapy, suicidal ideation, abuse, alcoholism, and potentially other sensitive topics.Part 2 of Devin's interview of Cousin Adam, the recently adopted son of Glen Lee and Phyllis Andersen. Adam continues telling his story of how he came to be adopted, his current relationship with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, stories of how he started going back to church. He shares advice that he has for his family, and even advice that he has for others who have same sex attraction in their teen years as well as their parents.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/my-99-cousins/donations

Latter Day Struggles
397: What Happens When Only One Kind of Latter-day Saint is Allowed to Exist in the Church

Latter Day Struggles

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 5, 2026 58:53


Send us a Positive Review!Series title: Mormon Faith Crisis—Progression, Not Pathology [Part III of III]In this episode Valerie welcomes back friend and researcher Jeff Strong for the third installment of their series exploring Jeff's research learning about the actual experiences of thousands of Latter-day Saints.  The theme that came through?  Massive amounts of TENSION.  Today they go deeper into six distinct kinds of Latter-day Saints and highlight that one type, "the protector" is disproportionately rewarded while other types are often silenced and squeezed to the margins and sometimes out of the church altogether.  They unpack how an ignorance of the true diversity of 21st Century LDS membership is causing crippling harm to families and the church itself and emphasize the power that could come if we all understood and supported one another as a truly open and welcoming 'body of Christ'.  Timestamps:01:04 – Understanding Cultural Differences01:57 – Stages of Faith and Identity Segments03:38 – Framework for Understanding Differences08:00 – Setting Up the Segment Discussion09:36 – Overview of the Six Segments14:30 – Personal Examples of Segment Fluidity16:19 – Avoiders and Their Journey18:30 – The Spectrum of Development21:15 – Disaffiliation and Its Complexities22:50 – The Public Narrative vs. Reality24:43 – Conformity and Control in Religious Communities26:33 – Fear vs. Love Orientation28:13 – Focus on Protectors33:40 – The Need for Balance and Integration35:02 – Balancing Different Attributes in Church Culture39:30 – The Dangers of Fear-Driven Leadership41:40 – The Role of Fear and Love in Leadership44:00 – The Impact of Historical Persecution50:00 – Everyday Conflicts and Growth Opportunities53:14 – Final Thoughts on Growth and DevelopmentSupport the showSupport the show Listen, Share, Rate & Review EPISODES Friday Episodes Annual Access $89 Friday Episodes Monthly Access $10 Valerie's Support & Processing Groups Gift a Scholarship Download Free Resources Visit our Website

Come Follow Me Kids
This Is My Work and My Glory - Moses 1 , Abraham 3 - Come Follow Me Podcast For Kids

Come Follow Me Kids

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 5, 2026 19:24


This is a Come Follow Me Podcast for Kids LDS Primary PodcastOld Testament Podcast For Kids This week we are studying Moses 1 and Abraham 3 The song about the plan of salvation comes from the CD My Turn On Earth. We are A Come Follow Me Podcast for Primary Kids of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. We are not officially affiliated with the church in any way, and direct you to their website for official doctrine and information. We are an interactive game play podcast for kids. Children will learn shout the scriptures while playing games that go with the Come Follow Me Lessons from the church. We follow the weekly lessons and teachings in the Old Testament Come Follow Me Manual. This week children will learn:I lived as a spirit before I was born on earth.I am a child of GodHeavenly Father wants me to return to live with Him.With His help I can resist temptation.This week we also listen to Jeffrey R Holland recount the vision Moses had of the earth, and how Satan tempted him. We also hear about son of man vs Son of God. If your children would like to be guests on this podcast or to receive a baptism shout out, please email us at their info at comefollowmekidspodcast@gmail.com 

Thoughtful Faith
Mormons Vs Evangelicals : A New UNCOMPROMISING Path Forward

Thoughtful Faith

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 5, 2026 87:58


Join Hello Saints Pastor Jeff and I as we discuss how to interact across faith differences in productive ways that don't compromise your values. Our LinksWebsite: http://thoughtfulfaith.orgInstagram:   / thoughtful.faithTikTok:   / thoughtful.faithPodcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1478749DISCLAIMER: The views expressed in this video are entirely the opinion of the creator and do not necessarily reflect any officially endorsed positions of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints or channel sponsors.

Latter-Day Lights: Inspirational LDS Stories
The Eternal Perspective of Loving Through Depression: Amanda Harms' Story - Latter-Day Lights

Latter-Day Lights: Inspirational LDS Stories

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 4, 2026 49:31 Transcription Available


When depression shapes the life of the person you love the most, will your faith hold—or begin to break under the pressure?In this week's episode of Latter-Day Lights, Scott and Emily sit down with Amanda Harms — a counselor, mother of six, and newly minted PhD in social psychology — to share her personal journey through supporting a spouse living with chronic depression.With mental illness and frayed communication leading to years of financial hardship, cross-country moves, spiritual denial, and seasons of uncertainty in her marriage, Amanda reflects on how compassion, understanding, and Christlike love slowly transformed the way she perceived her husband and herself.Through stories of resilience, motherhood, and the concept of “eternal perspective,” Amanda's journey invites listeners to consider what long-term endurance really looks like — not as a single turning point, but as years of small choices to remain faithful, present, and compassionate. It's a reminder that while answers don't always come quickly, the Lord walks with us through the slow, sacred process of becoming.*** Please SHARE Amanda's story and help us spread hope and light to others. ***To WATCH this episode on YouTube, visit: https://youtu.be/GukEY_jB1-k -----To READ Amanda's book, "Breaking Free from the Shame of Addiction," visit: https://a.co/d/jawXlJTTo READ Scott's new book “Faith to Stay” for free, visit: https://www.faithtostay.com/-----Keep updated with us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/latter.day.lights/Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/latterdaylightsAlso, if you have a faith-promoting or inspiring story, or know someone who does, please let us know by going to https://www.latterdaylights.com and reaching out to us.

Thoughtful Faith
How Much Does Historicity Matter?

Thoughtful Faith

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 2, 2026 83:48


Is faith a matter of propositions? Is it a matter of history? How much does our faith depend on historical facts being literally true? Join Jacob and Travis Overley as they discuss this and more.Our LinksWebsite: http://thoughtfulfaith.orgInstagram:   / thoughtful.faith TikTok:   / thoughtful.faith Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1478749DISCLAIMER: The views expressed in this video are entirely the opinion of the creator and do not necessarily reflect any officially endorsed positions of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints or channel sponsors.

Saints In the South
Why was Jeffrey R. Holland a "favorite" apostle for Latter-Day Saints

Saints In the South

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 1, 2026 21:34


Send us a textTravis of The Holy Rebellion joins us in remembering Jeffrey R. Holland and the impact he had in so many lives.  Elder Jeffrey R. Holland was a beloved apostle and senior leader of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, known for his powerful testimony of Jesus Christ, his teaching ability, and his lifelong commitment to strengthening the faith of Latter-day Saints. He was born December 3, 1940, in St. George, Utah, and early in life served a full-time mission in Great Britain, an experience that shaped his devotion to missionary work and discipleship. Before full-time Church service, Elder Holland was deeply involved in Church education. He earned degrees in English and religious education from Brigham Young University and a master's and Ph.D. from Yale University. He served as Dean of Religious Education, Church Commissioner of Education, and as the ninth president of BYU, where he emphasized gospel learning and helped expand educational opportunities. In April 1989, he was called as a General Authority Seventy. A few years later, on June 23, 1994, he was ordained a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, one of the highest governing bodies of the Church, charged with being a special witness of Jesus Christ to the world. As an apostle, Elder Holland's ministry touched many globally. He frequently spoke at General Conference, sharing heartfelt sermons on Christ's love, the power of the Atonement, and the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon. In 2025, he spoke about the evidence of God's works and testified of the Book of Mormon's impact as a spiritual guide. newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.orgElder Holland was set apart as President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles on October 14, 2025, a role in LDS Church governance that places him next in line to lead the Church under its established order of succession when the Church president passes. Throughout his service, members remembered him for his steadfast testimony of the Savior, his ability to lift the weary with compassionate words, and his unwavering devotion to gospel principles. His life and teachings have been a source of encouragement and dedication for countless Latter-day Saints around the world. Support the Show!www.patreon.com/SaintsintheSouth(The thoughts, ideas, and beliefs we express on this channel do not officially represent The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.  For additional information or official statements, please visit the website below.  The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/?lang=eng)#biblestudy #oldtestament #religion #churchofJesusChrist #ldspodcast #christianpodcast #missionary #lds #biblestories #christ #faith #faithinchrist #scriptures #bookofmormon #doctrineandcovenants #pearlofgreatprice #temples #houseofthelord #mormon #mormonbeliefs #christiansandmormons #god #endure #ironrod #faithineveryfootstep #generalconference #prophets #followtheprophet #commandments #love #service #charity #keepstriving #keeponstriving #gospelgrowthandgoodtimes #become #newtestamentSupport the showThanks for listening! Keep on Strivin'! Support the Show & become a "Patron Saint"!

Come Follow Me Kids
The First Testament of Jesus Christ - An Introduction To The Old Testament For Kids!

Come Follow Me Kids

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 29, 2025 11:35


This podcast introduces the Old Testament to kids. We use this text from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints Old Testament Stories for Children: About the Old TestamentHeavenly Father's promises to His children long ago illustration of pre-earth lifeThe first part of the Holy Bible is the Old Testament. These scriptures were written a long time ago, even before Jesus Christ was born. It has stories that help us have faith in Him. It teaches us that each person on earth is part of Heavenly Father's family and that He loves His children.Deuteronomy 7:7–9⁠; Isaiah 45:10–12 Adam and Eve in the GardenIn the Old Testament, Jesus Christ is called Jehovah and the Lord. He follows Heavenly Father's instructions. Since the time of Adam and Eve, Heavenly Father has sent the Lord Jesus Christ to speak to His prophets. Heavenly Father sends the Holy Ghost to help us know a prophet's words are true.Exodus 6:2–3⁠; 2 Chronicles 20:20⁠; Amos 3:7⁠; 2 Peter 1:21⁠; Moses 2:1 Adam's posterityThe Lord promised the prophet Abraham and his wife Sarah that their family would grow and bless the whole world. Their grandson Jacob had a large family that became a nation. They were called the house of Israel, or Israelites. Prophets taught them to look forward to when Jesus Christ would come.Genesis 15:5–6⁠; 17:1–8⁠; Deuteronomy 18:15⁠; Isaiah 7:14 people looking at rainbowMany stories in the Old Testament show how the Lord kept His promises to the Israelites.Genesis 9:13–17⁠; Jeremiah 11:4–5⁠; Hebrews 11:1–35 Moses showing staff to peopleWhen the Israelites listened to the prophets and kept the commandments, the Lord helped them. When they disobeyed, He could not help them.Deuteronomy 11:26–28⁠; Job 36:11–12 children reading scripturesYou are part of Heavenly Father's family. Heavenly Father is kind, and He loves you. He has a plan for you. Because of the Lord Jesus Christ, you can return to live with Heavenly Father again. Just like the Israelites were taught, you can choose to have faith in the Lord and keep His commandments.Exodus 15:2⁠; Deuteronomy 4:31⁠; 5:10⁠; Moses 1:39The song scripture power used in this episode is linked here. https://youtu.be/wxCntCIB-YA?feature=sharedThis podcast is a Bible Podcast for Kids. This year we are specifically studying the Old Testament. Our podcast is called Come Follow Me Kids. Come Follow Me for kids that are primary aged 2-12 in the Church or Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. We follow the come follow me manual from the church but are not officially affiliated in any way. Some audio segments come from the friend magazine and other church sources. On this podcast we play interactive games while learning about the gospel and atonement of Jesus Christ.If your children would like to be guests on this podcast or to receive a baptism shout out, please email us at their info at comefollowmekidspodcast@gmail.com 

Latter-Day Lights: Inspirational LDS Stories
Guided Back to God with the Gift of Interpreting Dreams: Tyler Christen's Story - Latter-Day Lights

Latter-Day Lights: Inspirational LDS Stories

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 28, 2025 94:49 Transcription Available


How does Jesus reach for us when we're convinced we can never return back to Him?In this week's episode of Latter-Day Lights, Tyler Christen—a returned soldier and lifelong Latter-Day Saint who spent years in and out of the Church—shares his raw, unfiltered journey through addiction, isolation, spiritual darkness, and repeated attempts to walk away from the Gospel.From battling the temptations of pornography and party culture in the military, surviving serious car accidents, grieving a miscarriage, and experiencing terrifying demonic encounters and sleep paralysis, Tyler describes what it felt like to believe he was beyond forgiveness... Until the night he finally gave in and cried out the name of Jesus Christ.From then on, doors began to open as Tyler found himself guided through dreams, spiritual impressions, and moments of unmistakable divine intervention that led him back to the scriptures, the temple, and a renewed sense of purpose in the Gospel. In this episode, Tyler talks about learning to recognize the Savior's voice and his realization of being a dream interpreter—all while discovering that the gifts of the Spirit are real.If you've ever questioned whether Jesus can still use you, Tyler's story is a bold reminder that Christ's grace can reach into the darkest places and turn a "lost cause" into a disciple on fire.*** Please SHARE Tyler's story and help us spread hope and light to others. ***To WATCH this episode on YouTube, visit: https://youtu.be/P9csAvu5PFw -----To READ Scott's new book “Faith to Stay” for free, visit: https://www.faithtostay.com/-----Keep updated with us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/latter.day.lights/Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/latterdaylightsAlso, if you have a faith-promoting or inspiring story, or know someone who does, please let us know by going to https://www.latterdaylights.com and reaching out to us.

Apologetics Profile
Episode 322: Apologetics Profile 2025 Year In Review

Apologetics Profile

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 27, 2025


What does it mean to be human?We thoughtfully tackle this ancient question on our annual Year-in-Review episode, featuring segments from Profile interviews of 2025. Guests include Michael Ward, Nadya Williams, Gary Habermas, Robert Bowman, Paul Nelson, Michael Behe, Casey Luskin, Robert Minich, John Oswalt, Sandra Tanner, and Michael Ray Lewis.Free Watchman Profile Articles AtheismDeconstructionismCharles DarwinScientism Carl SaganNaturalismBart Ehrman FREE: We are also offering a subscription to our 4-page bimonthly Profiles here: www.watchman.org/Free.PROFILE NOTEBOOK: Order the complete collection of Watchman Fellowship Profiles (over 600 pages -- from Astrology to Zen Buddhism) in either printed or PDF formats here: www.watchman.org/notebook. SUPPORT: Help us create more content like this. Make a tax-deductible donation here: www.watchman.org/give.Apologetics Profile is a ministry of Watchman Fellowship For more information, visit www.watchman.org © 2025 Watchman Fellowship, Inc.

AP Audio Stories
Jeffrey R. Holland, next in line to lead Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, dies at 85

AP Audio Stories

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 27, 2025 0:48


AP correspondent Julie Walker reports Jeffrey R. Holland, next in line to lead Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, has died.

Breaking Down Patriarchy
Deconstructing Patriarchy in Polygamous Fundamentalism and Beyond - with advocate Shirlee Draper

Breaking Down Patriarchy

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 26, 2025 85:58


Amy is joined by Shirlee Draper of Cherish Families to hear her courageous account of leaving the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and a polygamous marriage, sharing personal stories, exploring the alarming similarities between the explicit patriarchy of the FLDS Church and the allegedly more egalitarian world beyond it, plus discussing the practical work we can all be doing to help while avoiding condescension. Shirlee Draper is a former member of the Fundamentalist Latter-Day Saints community. She holds an MA in Public Administration and is the Director of Operations for Cherish Families, a non-profit organization providing compassionate support to individuals and families from polygamous backgrounds

It's Been a Minute with Sam Sanders
The not-so-secret lives of Mormon Women

It's Been a Minute with Sam Sanders

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 22, 2025 19:35


Why are Mormons so popular, you ask? Because it's part of their faith.From Hulu's The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives to your favorite homemaking TikTok influencers, the women of the Church of Latter Day Saints have been gaining massive audiences for over a decade. Brittany is joined by Jana Riess, senior columnist at Religious News Service and author of The Next Mormons: How Millennials are Changing the LDS Church to discuss how Mormon culture provides some of TikTok's most powerful influencers with heavenly tools for viral success.This episode originally aired on November 12, 2024.Support Public Media. Join NPR Plus.Follow Brittany Luse on Instagram: @bmluseFor handpicked podcast recommendations every week, subscribe to NPR's Pod Club newsletter at npr.org/podclub.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Come Follow Me Kids
Christ Centered Christ Podcast For Kids

Come Follow Me Kids

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 22, 2025 15:03


This is a Christ Centered Christmas Podcast For Kids! This week we study December 22–28: The Matchless Gift of God's Divine Son - ChristmasWe will play some games like guess the Christmas carol, guess the Christmas song, fill in the blank nativity story, and more. You're listening to Come Follow Me Kids!A Come Follow Me Podcast for Primary Kids of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.We are an interactive game play podcast for kids. Children will learn shout the scriptures while playing games that go with the Come Follow Me Lessons from the church.This year we are studying the Doctrine and Covenants. If you are looking for a Doctrine and Covenants Podcast for Primary Kids, look no further! Our podcast is called Come Follow Me Kids. Come Follow Me for kids that are primary aged 2-12 in the Church or Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. We follow the come follow me manual from the church but are not officially affiliated in any way. Some audio segments come from the friend magazine and other church sources. On this podcast we play interactive games while learning about the gospel and atonement of Jesus Christ.If your children would like to be guests on this podcast or to receive a baptism shout out, please email us at their info at comefollowmekidspodcast@gmail.com 

My 99 Cousins
64: Cousin 105 - Adam A G Part 1

My 99 Cousins

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 22, 2025 55:25 Transcription Available


**Listener Discretion is Advised** - This episode contains very sensitive and mature topics including conversion therapy, suicidal ideation, abuse, alcoholism, and potentially other sensitive topics.This episode is divided into two parts. This episode is Part 1 of 2.Adam, the newest cousin to join the family, joins Devin for the Podcast when he comes to visit the Glen Lee and Phyllis Andersen family in Utah. Adam was a big inspiration for Devin to start this podcast, and Devin quickly starts the episode by telling Adam why that was.Adam begins telling his story by explaining his difficult family situation growing up, how biological family moved around a lot when he was young, that there was abuse at home accompanied with alcohol, and how his family, while they were members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, had many problems at home that made Adam feel unsafe.Adam shares how he met the Glen Lee and Phyllis Andersen family in Elko, Nevada, how they grew very close, and witnessed what a family could be when it followed the teachings of the restored gospel of Jesus Christ. After only a few years, Adam moved to Florida with his family, and away from the Andersen family.Adam shares his experience of coming out as gay to his bishop, wanting to serve a mission, and starting the terrible process of conversion therapy that the church still condoned at the time.Adam talks about the difficulty of his mission in the midst of that, and what happened after returning home from his mission. He talks about confronting his bishop about the plan that was laid out for him that he didn't agree with, and his plan to take his own life, but how deciding to keep the sabbath day holy by not purchasing anything on that day helped preserve his life.Adam continues his story with how he decided to start his life over by moving away to Atlanta, how he met his husband, Allen, and how they were eventually able to be married many years later when it became legal in the United States.Part 1 ends with explaining how he re-united with the Andersen family and how he began attending church again.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/my-99-cousins/donations

Necronomipod
Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints Part 5

Necronomipod

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 21, 2025 77:48


Grab a beer and join us tonight as we wrap up our series on Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints! In part five we'll go through Warren's arrest, as well as his trials in Utah and Texas. We'll also dig into the other co-conspirators of Warren's, and where things stand today. https://www.necronomipod.com https://www.patreon.com/necronomipod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Leading Saints Podcast
What Leaders Should Know About Black Latter-day Saints | An Interview with Brothaz in the Foyer

Leading Saints Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2025 61:51


Will Kennedy and Isiah Gray are members of Brothaz in the Foyer, a group that produces content to represent and share the experiences of Black members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They are part of a larger group of hosts for the Brothaz in the Foyer Podcast, and their goal is to bring people “from the foyer into the chapel.” This conversation explores their personal journeys, the dynamics of race within the Church, and the importance of fostering understanding and inclusivity. Links YouTube: @brothazinthefoyer Instagram: @brothazinthefoyer TikTok: @brothazinthefoyer Paul Reeve books Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community Key Insights Experiences in the Temple: Will and Isiah share how their experiences as Black men in the temple often draw attention, highlighting the need for normalization of diverse representation within sacred spaces. Cultural Differences: The hosts discuss how their backgrounds influence their experiences in the Church, noting that cultural differences can lead to misunderstandings and the need for open dialogue. Reconciliation with Church History: Both emphasize the importance of understanding the Church’s history regarding race, including the priesthood ban, and how this knowledge can strengthen faith rather than diminish it. Empathy and Genuine Interaction: They stress the importance of treating all individuals as children of God and engaging in genuine conversations to bridge cultural gaps, rather than making interactions feel forced or awkward. Political Climate and Faith: The discussion touches on the politicization of race and the need for members to prioritize their faith and love for others over political affiliations, promoting unity within the Church. Leadership Applications Foster Open Dialogue: Leaders should create environments where members feel comfortable discussing sensitive topics related to race and culture, encouraging transparency and understanding. Educate on Church History: Leaders can benefit from familiarizing themselves with resources like Paul Reeve’s book on race in the priesthood to better address historical issues and foster inclusivity. Encourage Representation: Leaders should seek diverse voices in leadership roles and callings, recognizing that representation can enhance the community’s strength and unity, while also being mindful not to tokenize individuals based on race. Highlights 00:03:09 – Origin of Brothaz in the Foyer Podcast 00:04:34 – Cultural Differences in Latter-day Saint Experiences 00:06:08 – Broader Christian Dialogue and Inclusivity 00:06:58 – Personal Background: Will’s Journey to the Church 00:08:35 – Personal Background: Isiah’s Journey to the Church 00:10:58 – Navigating Church Culture and History 00:14:03 – Discussing Race in Church Settings 00:17:04 – Parenting and Discussing Race with Children 00:19:46 – Encouragement for Friends Struggling with Church History 00:20:15 – Seeking the Savior in Difficult Conversations 00:22:34 – Addressing Race in Church Leadership 00:23:38 – Importance of Validation and Transparency 00:25:27 – Practical Approaches for Church Leaders 00:26:26 – Genuine Interactions vs. Awkwardness 00:29:06 – Experiences in the Temple 00:31:17 – Building Relationships through Meaningful Conversations 00:33:41 – Representation and Diversity in Leadership 00:35:02 – Navigating Race in Utah and the Wasatch Front 00:37:57 – The Impact of Politics on Race Conversations 00:42:36 – Mixing Christianity with Politics 00:45:59 – Addressing Racism in the Church Context 00:47:02 – Empathy and Understanding in Racial Discussions The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes. Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings such as the bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young adults, ministering, and teaching.

Breaking Down Patriarchy
Diaries of a Mormon Feminist - with author Carol Lynn Pearson

Breaking Down Patriarchy

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 16, 2025 55:09


Amy joins the renowned writer Carol Lynn Pearson in her home for an illuminating and tender conversation about the life and struggles of a major figure in LDS feminism, her insights into queer people in the Church, the lingering ghost of polygamy, and what it takes to be an independent thinker inside a patriarchal institution.Donate to Breaking Down PatriarchyRenowned Mormon feminist, Carol Lynn Pearson, is an American poet, author, screenwriter, and playwright. She frequently addresses the topics of LGBT acceptance and the role of Latter-Day Saint women. She has written many important works, including Goodbye, I Love You, The Ghost of Eternal Polygamy, and most recently, The Diaries of Carol Lynn Pearson – Mormon Author, Feminist, and Activist.

Latter Day Struggles
391: Why Mental Health Workers Became the Black Sheep of the 21st Century Church

Latter Day Struggles

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 15, 2025 50:49


Send us a Positive Review!In this episode of Latter Day Struggles, Valerie and guest Maxine Hanks dive into the complexities of reform and personal wellness within the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.This fascinating conversation explores the first-hand experience of two women whose influential work spans a half-century in the LDS spotlight. With this time-span as a reference point, they discuss how the focus of institutional reprimand and control has shifted from scholars to mental health professionals, especially mental health workers who publicly address complex issues at the intersection of identity development, mental health, and its connection to LDS theology and practice. Further, they explore the phenomenon of "diffuse policing," where in some wards and stakes, fellow members, rather than just church leaders, report and judge one another, leading to a sense of danger and exclusion within spiritual communities. Ultimately, they call for continued efforts to embody love, create safe spaces, and support the health and healing of all members, at every stage of the faith journey. Books Referenced in this episode:"The Ghost of Eternal Polygamy" by Carol Lynn Pearson"Women and Authority: Re-Emerging Mormon Feminism" by Maxine HanksTimestamps:00:00 Introduction and Welcome00:49 Reflecting on Sacred Work01:49 Comparing Different Eras03:01 The Impact of the Internet06:02 Public vs. Private Scholarship09:09 Mental Health Workers Under Fire14:07 Balancing Individual and Institutional Needs18:38 The Role of Mental Health in Faith Journeys24:18 The New Taboo: Mental Health and LGBTQ Issues25:40 Identity and Wellbeing: A Personal Journey27:31 The Role of Mental Health Workers in the Church30:32 Institutional Insecurity and Individual Growth33:09 Policing and Persecution Within the Church37:35 The Erosion of Safe Spaces in the Church45:20 The Greatest Danger to the Church Today49:51 Concluding Thoughts: Embodying Love and CompassionAdditional Episodes Referenced:Ep. 179 - 182: Maxine Hanks Life StoryEp. 222, 272: Maxine Hanks and Jody England Hansen on the recent garment changesSupport the showSupport the show Listen, Share, Rate & Review EPISODES Friday Episodes Annual Access $89 Friday Episodes Monthly Access $10 Valerie's Support & Processing Groups Gift a Scholarship Download Free Resources Visit our Website

Come Follow Me Kids
The Family : A Proclamation to the World (For Kids!)

Come Follow Me Kids

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 15, 2025 15:28


December 15–21: “The Family Is Central to the Creator's Plan”The Family: A Proclamation to the World (Explained to Kids)Even before we were born, we were part of a family—the family of our heavenly parents. That pattern continues on earth. Families here, at their best, are meant to echo the perfect pattern in heaven.“The family is central to the Creator's plan.”“⁠The Family: A Proclamation to the World⁠” is clearly about families. But it is equally about God's plan of salvation.“Happiness in family life is most likely to be achieved when founded upon the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ.”Think of paragraphs 6 and 7 of the family proclamation as a pattern for “happiness in family life.” Families are important in Heavenly Father's plan.I am a “beloved spirit son or daughter of heavenly parents.”You're listening to Come Follow Me Kids!A Come Follow Me Podcast for Primary Kids of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.We are an interactive game play podcast for kids. Children will learn shout the scriptures while playing games that go with the Come Follow Me Lessons from the church.This year we are studying the Doctrine and Covenants. If you are looking for a Doctrine and Covenants Podcast for Primary Kids, look no further! Our podcast is called Come Follow Me Kids. Come Follow Me for kids that are primary aged 2-12 in the Church or Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. We follow the come follow me manual from the church but are not officially affiliated in any way. Some audio segments come from the friend magazine and other church sources. On this podcast we play interactive games while learning about the gospel and atonement of Jesus Christ.If your children would like to be guests on this podcast or to receive a baptism shout out, please email us at their info at comefollowmekidspodcast@gmail.com 

For All The Saints
What You Can Learn From Seeing Jesus As You've Never Seen Him Before - Rose Datoc Dall | 120

For All The Saints

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 15, 2025 46:33


Rose Datoc Dall is an artist and curator of 'Expressions of Jesus: Cultural Representations of the Savior of the World.' This one-of-a-kind curated collection of artwork showcases images of Jesus Christ from more than 100 diverse artists throughout history and from around the world. I wanted to speak to Rose about what she learned while curating this project and why it's important for us to see Jesus portrayed in such varying ways that may not be historically accurate.--You can find more of Rose's work at the following links:- https://www.rosedatocdall.com/- https://www.deseretbook.com/product/6080309.htmlFollow For All The Saints on social media for updates and inspiring content:www.instagram.com/forallthesaintspodhttps://www.facebook.com/forallthesaintspod/For All The Saints episodes are released every Monday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts and more:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVDUQg_qZIU&list=UULFFf7vzrJ2LNWmp1Kl-c6K9Qhttps://open.spotify.com/show/3j64txm9qbGVVZOM48P4HS?si=bb31d048e05141f2https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/for-all-the-saints/id1703815271If you have feedback or any suggestions for topics or guests, connect with Ben & Sean via hello@forallthesaints.org or DM on InstagramConversations to Refresh Your Faith.For All The Saints podcast was established in 2023 by Ben Hancock to express his passion and desire for more dialogue around faith, religious belief, and believers' perspectives on the topics of our day. Tune into For All The Saints every Monday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more.Follow For All The Saints on social media for daily inspiration.

Necronomipod
Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints Part 4

Necronomipod

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 14, 2025 58:38


Grab a beer and join us tonight as we continue our series on the FLDS! We'll follow Warren Jeffs as he tightens his grip on Short Creek, kicks kids out of public school, tears down community landmarks, and starts excommunicating longtime leaders while dumping so-called “lost boys” on the side of the highway. We'll talk about his push to build new “lands of refuge” like the YFZ Ranch, how the forced marriages of underage girls escalated, and how law enforcement, former members, and the courts finally started to push back with raids, lawsuits, and criminal charges, all while Warren slips into hiding on the run from the FBI. https://www.necronomipod.com https://www.patreon.com/necronomipod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Cwic Media
Latter-Day Saint Folklore: The Stories We Tell When the Manual Closes

Cwic Media

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 11, 2025 58:30


Folklorist Christopher Blythe of Brigham Young University joins me to unpack the unofficial stories that quietly shape Latter-day Saint belief. We talk three Nephites, seer stones, missionary legends, evil spirits, and why some 'false' stories still tell real truth. Blythe defines folklore as informal ideas we pass along—what parents tell kids, what missionaries swap in apartments, what members share at campfires or in the celestial room, not the correlated manual. Folklore includes what we do, make, and especially what we say: stories, interpretations, and "off-the-record" teachings. "Official" doctrine is correlated and written; folklore is what happens the second we interpret and repeat it. We often misuse the term "folklore" to mean "false doctrine" or "wives' tales," but in academia, it refers to how ideas are transmitted, not to their truth or falsity. Folklore can be deeply sacred—sometimes things we won't share over the pulpit precisely because they mean so much. Angels & Seerstones Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Christopher Blythe's Facebook -   / christopher.blythe.3   Cwic Media Website: http://www.cwicmedia.com  

Come Follow Me Kids
Articles of Faith Podcast For Kids

Come Follow Me Kids

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 8, 2025 16:48


What are the Articles Of Faith for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? Who Wrote them? What do they say? What do members of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints believe? In this podcast kids will find out. You're listening to Come Follow Me Kids!A Come Follow Me Podcast for Primary Kids of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.We are an interactive game play podcast for kids. Children will learn shout the scriptures while playing games that go with the Come Follow Me Lessons from the church.This year we are studying the Doctrine and Covenants. If you are looking for a Doctrine and Covenants Podcast for Primary Kids, look no further! Our podcast is called Come Follow Me Kids. Come Follow Me for kids that are primary aged 2-12 in the Church or Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. We follow the come follow me manual from the church but are not officially affiliated in any way. Some audio segments come from the friend magazine and other church sources. On this podcast we play interactive games while learning about the gospel and atonement of Jesus Christ.If your children would like to be guests on this podcast or to receive a baptism shout out, please email us at their info at comefollowmekidspodcast@gmail.com

Necronomipod
Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints Part 3

Necronomipod

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 7, 2025 110:51


Grab a beer and join us tonight as we continue our series on Mormonism and the FLDS! We'll get into how plural marriage went from a secret in Nauvoo to a public doctrine in Utah that put the church on a collision course with the U.S. government. We'll go through the anti-polygamy crackdowns and the 1890 Manifesto, then follow the believers who refused to give it up into the remote Short Creek community, where they built the FLDS. https://www.necronomipod.com https://www.patreon.com/necronomipod Sponsored by BetterHelp: https://www.betterhelp.com/necro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Cultural Hall Podcast
Holiness to the Lord: Latter-day Saint Temple Worship – Jonathan Stapley – 993

The Cultural Hall Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 7, 2025 60:00


Temple worship has always been difficult for Latter-day Saints to discuss. A culture of privacy governs how they talk about it. Holiness to the Lord is a path breaking study of what church members have experienced in their temples, from the 1830s to the present. Now available for preorder, Holiness to the Lord: Elucidates the religious work of LDS temples. Documents the generational shift in temple practices over time. Incorporates a never-before-seen body of archival records. Provides new insight into the relationships between Latter-day Saint conceptions of priesthood, gender, and race. Offers pioneering information about LDS temple practices outside of devotional and generalized material. PURCHASE THE BOOK The post Holiness to the Lord: Latter-day Saint Temple Worship – Jonathan Stapley – 993 appeared first on The Cultural Hall Podcast.

Church History Matters
182 - The Articles of Faith CFM - Intro to Latter-day Saint Beliefs - E50C December 8-14

Church History Matters

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 4, 2025 96:54


Welcome to Church History Matters Come Follow Me Edition where we are systematically diving into every section of the Doctrine and Covenants throughout the year 2025! In this episode Scott and Casey cover the Articles of Faith, while covering the context, content, controversies and consequences of this important history. 

Cwic Media
"F the Mormons": Why Latter-day Saints Have No Political Home

Cwic Media

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 3, 2025 67:31


Jake and Barrett's YT Channel -    / @polysophical   Jacob Taylor and filmmaker Barrett Burgin return to Cwic Show to discuss "Where do Latter-day Saints fit in? Into politics and into culture. How strong are our allies? Do we go it alone? Cwic Media Website: http://www.cwicmedia.com 

Data Over Dogma
Polygamy!

Data Over Dogma

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 1, 2025 62:28


Look out! 'Cause this week we're looking at a controversial issue, and perhaps strangely for us, the impetus for this has nothing to do with Mormonism. No, recently a Missouri pastor named Rich Tidwell made waves in Christian circles by claiming that the Bible--yes, even the New Testament--is pro polygamy. And, really putting his matrimony where his mouth is, he has the wives to prove it. So is the Bible as positive about plural marriage as Tidwell claims? And if so, does that mean that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints should reclaim their highly decried practice? Then we'll move on to one of the Bible's most prolific polygamists: Solomon. Or rather, his son Rehoboam. If Solomon was wise (and really... was he?), Rehoboam was rash, impetuous and authoritarian. The apple fell far from Solomon's tiny little tree. But what is this story really about? ---- For early access to an ad-free version of every episode of Data Over Dogma, exclusive content, and the opportunity to support our work, please consider becoming a monthly patron at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/DataOverDogma⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠      Follow us on the various social media places: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/DataOverDogmaPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.twitter.com/data_over_dogma⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Have you ordered Dan McClellan's New York Times bestselling book ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Bible Says So⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ yet??? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Necronomipod
Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints Part 2

Necronomipod

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 30, 2025 93:35


Grab a beer and join us tonight as we continue our FLDS series with the birth of Mormon polygamy! We'll get into Joseph's claimed angel with a drawn sword, the secret plural “marriages” starting with Fanny Alger in the Smiths' own home, and how that double life eventually blew up in Nauvoo with teen brides, polyandrous sealings, and Emma getting gaslit while being told to accept “all those” wives or be destroyed. From John C. Bennett's “spiritual wife” scam, to the Nauvoo Expositor calling Joseph out, to the city council literally destroying a printing press and Joseph declaring martial law, we'll follow the chaos straight into Carthage Jail and the gunfire that left Joseph and Hyrum dead. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Necronomipod
Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints Part 1

Necronomipod

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 23, 2025 106:24


Grab a beer and join us tonight as we kick off our FLDS series by going all the way back to the birth of Joseph Smith Jr. We'll talk about his family's mix of homegrown religion and folk magic, the revivals that swept through upstate New York, and how Joseph said he started seeing visions and eventually dug up gold plates that became the Book of Mormon. Then we'll follow him as he organizes the early church, gathers converts in Ohio and Missouri, survives violence and failed banking schemes, and builds Nauvoo into a powerful Mormon city with its own courts, militia, and serious political clout. Finally, we'll get into the early temple rituals and quiet talk of plural marriage starting to go around Nauvoo. https://www.necronomipod.com https://www.patreon.com/necronomipod Sponsored by BetterHelp: https://www.betterhelp.com/necro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices