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Lindsey Weishar reads her poem "Variations on Mercy," and Daniel Thomas reads his poem "The Other Life."Lindsey Weishar holds an MFA in Creative Writing from the University of Missouri-Kansas City. She has contributed to a variety of outlets including Verily Magazine, Dappled Things, and the Word on Fire blog. Her chapbook, Matchbook Night, was published by Leaf Press (Canada) in 2018.Daniel Thomas's third poetry collection, River of Light, was published by Shanti Arts Publishing in 2025. His previous books are Leaving the Base Camp at Dawn and Deep Pockets. He has published poems in many journals, including Southern Poetry Review, Nimrod, Poetry Ireland Review, Amethyst Review, Radix, Atlanta Review, and others. More info at danielthomaspoetry.com

Kiera and Dana dive into the hygienist's mindset (which tends toward patient care over business numbers) and how a doctor can get a full hygiene team on board with metrics and measurables. They touch on the hygienist drought, growing your practice without stepping on your hygienists' toes, setting expectations everyone can agree on, and more. Dana also touches on a hygiene team she worked with for a couple years that went from struggling to hit its goals to hitting even their daily goals 95% of the time. Episode resources: Subscribe to The Dental A-Team podcast Schedule a Practice Assessment Leave us a review Transcript: The Dental A Team (00:00) Hello, Dental A Team listeners. This is Kiera and today is a great freaking day over there. I get the one and only Dana, Dynamite Dana over there. I did not say the other nickname. If you've been on the podcast for a while, you might know, but Dana, welcome to the show today. How are you?   DAT-Dana (00:16) doing pretty good. Thanks so much for having me. It's not always that I get dedicated, you know, Kiera time. So I'm excited to be here.   The Dental A Team (00:22) I know when Dana and I get a podcast, like it's not always common, but I mean, you guys might start seeing Dana a bit more. I've got a few plans and tricks up my sleeves for Dana. We've been together for a long time. Dana, like donuts with Dana tip. don't remember what that was like dentistry tips or something. You were on a roll. You used to, I think you still do them actually every single week. Um, but Dana, you were just a diehard dedicated and always without, will not share it.   DAT-Dana (00:39) Yeah.   The Dental A Team (00:49) but Dana always has the best story. So if you don't know Dana and you want like a good giggle in your life, you name it. And also Dana is the best with trivia. We do a company end of year party every year and it's always like trivia based. Dana whoops everybody. Like this woman knows facts and stats like nobody's business. So Dana, today's gonna be a fun day because not only is Dana dynamite this way, but we're gonna do a little bit of an office autopsy about a hygiene department. So if you don't know in Dana's Other Life,   Dana used to work at a prison as a hygienist and Dana that still is a trip to me. Like, did you ever get nervous that they were going to take their shackled hands and like stab you with an instrument? I'm truly curious because that's my fear. Let's just talk about that for one second.   DAT-Dana (01:27) Yeah, I mean, there were   a lot of like protocols in place for protection and for safety. But at the end of the day, you knew where you were. you know, yes, there was always I think just a niggling element of I just need to be careful, pay attention beyond my toes. Yeah.   The Dental A Team (01:44) Like you're working with sharp instruments.   I mean, it's not like you doled them out to take them in there. Like we're not going to have a sharp scaler. You get a doled one. Like you got to be in there. But yeah, cause I remember I worked in an office and they would bring in inmates and they would be like handcuffed top to bottom. And the girl would always be like, so what were you in prison for? And I'm like, why are we, why are we poking the bear? Like, why don't we just keep them calm? And like, I don't even want to know. Like, but she did it every time. I was only up there a couple of times consulting them, but.   DAT-Dana (02:04) Thanks.   The Dental A Team (02:13) Anyway, beyond prison, also is an incredible hygienist. So today we wanted to kind of office autopsy because Dana had a practice that she worked with for several years on hygiene and their number one motive and their number one objective was hygiene. And I think that this is such a, it's very delicate because I think dentists want hygienists to produce and as a practice, we want hygienists to produce. And Dana, as a hygienist, you feel, I'm not gonna put words in your mouth, but the assumption I get from a lot of hygienists is   We want to just do great work and we don't want to always have to be looking at numbers. Maybe that's true or not, but like Dana, I want to hear what's kind of like the mindset of hygienist and then how do doctors approach this? And then we'll dig into the practice that you worked with that like really freaking crushed it. But I think like, this is such a, I don't know. I feel like it's a sliver in a practice. Like no one wants to talk about it. Like let's just not touch it so it doesn't hurt. But then it like blows up and people are like, my freaking hygienist aren't producing and they don't want to like tick them off because no one's there.   So let's talk about it, because is that how hygienists feel and how do you win over hygiene?   DAT-Dana (03:12) Yeah,   I think it's a mindset. I think it's a difference in mindset, right? I think dentists are always looking at the business side of it because oftentimes the dentists are the business owners and hygiene, their mindset is patient care. And so the easiest way I think to get alignment on that is you actually are caring about the same thing. You just don't realize it. And so it is getting alignment in like numbers tell us   how we are doing in patient care truly. So getting a hygiene team to understand that, getting them aligned that.   No numbers aren't everything, but actually numbers tell you exactly the thing that you care about most. ⁓ And so I feel like they look at it from different angles. And if you can get them aligned and actually it is the same thing and numbers tell you hygienist, the thing that you care about most, which is patient care and making sure that every patient leaves your chair happy, healthier than when they walked in. Understanding that the numbers will tell you how well you're doing at that. ⁓   It's definitely a mindset shift, but I think once you can get them aligned with that and then understand that you're truly talking the same thing, it's a game changer.   The Dental A Team (04:25) I love that Dana and as you were saying that it made me think of like when we do a practice assessment with a practice when they're reaching out to work with us or just wanting clarity the first question one of our first questions is like do you have a 10-year vision that you and your team are rallied around and as you were saying that Dana I thought about okay well if our hygiene department has a vision that we're all rallied around so let's say it's patient care well then the next question always that follows is how do we know if we're having excellent patient care and it's something that can't be a feeling   because we've got to be able to track and measure just like I can't say that I'm the best basketball player, but I have no way to prove that and measure it. My husband's in pharmacy and he's always like, if you're the best, then just freaking prove it, like stats and number it. Like, why do you have to it on feelings? Like, ⁓ it's such a hard thing because then we really never as a hygiene department know, like, are we really doing the best patient care? So then we make actual stats of, okay, great, we have this many perio patients. Like, this is our perio percentage. This is our fluoride percentage.   This is how many reviews that we get, this is how many patients are leaving on time. And then like, this is how we know that we're like hitting our daily goal to make sure we're not missing like our FMXs or different things that need to be done on a regular basis. So as you said that, I thought like even a way to get hygiene teams on board is like, what is our vision? Like you said, and then how do we truly measure that? We got to have actual stats with that. It can't just be the warm fuzzies of I think I'm doing well because what's crazy is I can think I'm doing well and then I have to go run a mile.   And I'm like, no, I've been doing my cardio. Like I'm really a great runner. And then it's like, I ran a mile in 15 minutes and people are like, are you even running? Like until I track and measure, there's no way to improve. And so I think it's when people realize like, that's the only reason we're doing it is to see like, hey, if we've got the best patient care, then like, let's prove it, let's document it. So that way we're confident in that as well. So Dana, I'm curious, I'm a dentist. How do I get my hygiene team on board that there's gonna be a consultant that's gonna like make them?   track number, like what do people even say to make a hygienist, which is you like get on board with this idea. And then Dana, we're going to dig into like how you help turn around a hygiene team. So A though, how does this dentist get his hygienist on board or hers?   DAT-Dana (06:29) Yeah,   I think it's an open and honest conversation of just like you said, like, give me give me descriptors of what an amazing hygiene department looks like to you. If you worked in an office and you said you walked in and this was the best hygiene team you've ever worked with you've ever been a part of what does that look like? And oftentimes that will lead to conversations about patient care about those things. And then it is okay, guys, how do we know, right? I   I want you guys to be the best hygiene team. probably sit here and think you are the best hygiene team. How do I know that though? And then you start to attach those metrics and those measurables to say, hey, like, we want to be this. We, we feel like maybe we even are but how do we know for sure? And I think that it's an opening that conversation and as well as like the   Best part of, yes, I worked very solo for many years in the prison, but when I went into private practice or when I got to temp in offices, the best thing that I loved was getting to learn from my other hygienists. And so we're going to get alignment. We're going to learn a lot from each other. Everybody's got their strengths and weaknesses. And so over the next couple of months, I want you to share your tips and tricks. We're going to talk about verbiage. We're going to talk about how to have conversations. But at the end of the day, our goal should be that   when patients walk in no matter which hygienist they see the same thing is done each and every time.   The Dental A Team (07:54) And I love that you say that because it's like, this is how we get them on in. And I think like, doctors, don't know, Dana, a doctor giving you their, I don't know, expectation or sharing with you as a hygienist, does that like turn you off to where you just want to go like look for another job? Because I think dentists are so scared of their hygiene team leaving that they don't even want to like tell them what they're expecting from them. Cause they're just like, it's okay. Like it's better to just.   hang on to them rather than wanting to elevate. Like how do you navigate this like hygiene drought plus the need to grow your practice? Like how do you navigate that? And what does that feel like as a hygienist?   DAT-Dana (08:31) Mm-hmm. I do feel like it can be a scary conversation. It can be an uncomfortable conversation or a conversation where a dentist kind of dread, but ultimately I think hygienists are   usually typically goal oriented, growth oriented, like they want to know what the expectations are, because at the end of the day, they want to hit it. And so they can sit here and say, Hey, I think I'm doing a great job. I feel like I'm working hard, right. But what actually tells them that? And it does come down to the expectations, the goals, the numbers, those pieces, I think   The Dental A Team (08:53) Mm-hmm.   DAT-Dana (09:06) It can be a difficult conversation, but I honestly think that hygiene departments, hygienists themselves, like they want to know what the expectations are because I'll tell you they are typically ⁓ goal driven achievement people. Like they want to hit the things that you want. And so I think again, it's like clarity is the best thing that you can do for them. And if you are frustrated that they're not meeting expectations, they're probably frustrated that they don't even know what the expectations are.   The Dental A Team (09:17) Air quotes typically.   I mean, that's fair. And I love that you say that because you're right, most hygienists do want to know what the goals are. And even if you just casually like put it on the table, they're going to casually look at that and just start to casually think about it. And I think like, Dana, I really want to dig into because I know you had a practice and you had an entire hygiene department and you worked heavily with them and they like all loved you, which I think is not common. Like I think you usually have like   three of the four that are super excited about and you got one that's just kind of off on their own planet, ⁓ which happens a lot. But I think it's like, it's okay to give expectations. I think the piece that I've gathered, and I'm not a hygienist, so please, please chime in. I think hygienists just want to make sure that like, of all the things you want them to do, that you're not hurting patient care. So it's like, I'm okay to scan, I'm okay to probe, I'm okay to take x-rays. Like I really get the vibe that hygienists truly are not upset by that. But it's like, if you want me to scan,   probe, x-ray, plus scale, polish, do a great exam. Can we just be realistic and fair of not making me be the Olympic level athlete hygienist and maybe it's we probe and then we scan on the next visit so we could break it up so it's not having to happen every time. And I think when hygienists and doctors or hygienists and consultants come together and where it's like, OK, what are we ultimately all going for? Let's be realistic with our timing. I don't want them to have to be   A star players because not every hygienist is that. So I'm like, how can we make this tour like my B players can still thrive where my A's can like crush more and my C's feel like they it's not so far away. I think like when if you can build it that way, I feel like hygienists are way more apt and I also feel like don't don't try to get them to do every single thing right at once. Like let's do baby steps to where they like if we're not even doing fluoride, if we're not even tracking our numbers, like we're not going to scan every time. And I know doctors, you want to do that. Gap leap.   but you got to baby scale them up. So Dana, I'm just going to like hand this over to you. Like, what did you do with an office? How did you win them over? How do you scale up hygiene departments? Because I think it's delicate, but I think you're the expert on our team that does this very successfully with a lot of hygiene teams.   DAT-Dana (11:43) Yeah, and I think when it comes to, Dennis, we've got to remove a lot of barriers first, right? That's the first thing. is, barriers are always going to be time. It's always going to be, well, my schedule's not full. It's always going to be, so we really talked about those barriers and yes, we want to make sure that your schedule's full, but when it isn't full, how do you maximize, right, what is in your chair? So we started with fluoride, honestly, which was an easy way, and I think that...   When we talk about goals, it helps to know like, why is this goal the way that it is? Right? Why is a fluoride acceptance goal 90 %? So let's talk about that, right? Think about the patients that sit in your chair. It's very rare that a patient sits in your chair that does that there's not something going on that fluoride would benefit.   Right? So even if they have immaculate teeth and they have very little dentistry done, let's keep it that way. Right? If they've got a lot of dentistry done, let's make sure it lasts as long as it possibly can. If they've got sensitivity, right? So just talking about what are the benefits, who can benefit from it? And honestly and truly statistically, that many patients that sit in your chair can actually benefit from it. So we did start with full ride and we worked on that.   The Dental A Team (12:31) Mm-hmm.   Right.   DAT-Dana (12:58) And then after fluoride, our next layer then was perio. And again, it came down to, well, the goal is 30 % of your patients, right, should be perio patients. Well, why? Right? Why is that the goal? Well, the goal is, right, science and statistics tell us that unless you have a very unique population within your practice, so unless you are in a college town and you pretty much see only patients in their 20s, right, or you're a pediatric practice, 30 % of the population   has that, right? And so that's just like science-based, that's just database. But having those conversations, I think, opens up windows to say, okay, this isn't arbitrary goals. We're not just picking numbers out of the sky. There's reasons that these goals exist. And unless you are truly unique in that situation, that goal applies to you.   The Dental A Team (13:29) Hmm.   ⁓ yeah, go ahead. think that that's like, was just going to chime in real quick on like, I love that you broke down the why. And as you were saying it, I was thinking some team members don't need the why. Most dental assistants don't actually need a why. Most treatment coordinators don't really need a why. They're more like, let's just drive and go. Hygienists on the other hand, like, let's just look at their natural behavior. Very detailed. I mean, they sit there and they scrape that calculus. mean, Dana, the fact that you sit there and like, you want to get every little last piece of it.   If I've got a personality that's that obsessive of that small of details, they're going to want to understand the why. So as you were saying that Dana, I was like, even explaining to dentists, like why do they need to know why the goal is and why it's based with science? And because that's who they are. They're bred with like, we want to know the science. We want to know the background behind it. And I think, I think you even just taking that step with hygienist Dana, like kudos to you for calling that out. They're going to be way more inclined to buy in because like you said, it's feeding their brain and how they're naturally wired.   to be able to like, that makes sense. I can get on board with this and I can make sure I'm following rather than you're just making me look at every patient for fluoride because you want numbers. It's like, no, 90%. I tell everybody with fluoride, like my go-to for hygienists is I'm like, look at my teeth. They're really clean. You can clean me in 30 minutes. And yet how many hygienists in my entire life has offered me fluoride? And the answer is none. And I'm like, the fact that not even one offered it to me, like how dare you hygienists assume that I don't want to be proactive and preventative with my teeth?   Gizzles offer it to me because if I would have known I can't ever go back in time retroactively and do that and I wish that hygienists when I was you know 15 16 17 would have offered this to me to proactively take care of my teeth I did not learn about fluoride until I worked in a dental practice and I'm like rude you just assumed I was like clean and healthy and wouldn't want it versus like why not offer it because even your clean immaculate patients if you tell them this is the most proactive preventative thing you can do for your teeth   for 30 bucks or 45, whatever it is, like, do know how much a filling is? I'm going to say yes to you. So I think Dana, like kudos to you on that. But what else were you gonna say? Cause I know I cut you off on your thought process too.   DAT-Dana (15:55) no, and my next thought process was then we tackled just alignment on all of those things. And so we spent a lot of time building Perio protocol ⁓ and talking about the conversations that go along with it. And even on people who don't qualify right for Perio but are heavy builders because we just kept hearing time, time, we're running behind, we're running behind. And it is just...   navigating conversations with patients because you can have heavy builders and yes is that hygienist we want to remove every last speck of calculus but if a patient presents with too much to get done in an hour we have to have those conversations. Hey since I saw you last there is quite a bit of build up here. I'm gonna do the best that I can to get to get all of it off today but moving forward I think it would be super beneficial if you came more often and I could see you more frequently to ensure that I can get   The Dental A Team (16:36) Mm-hmm.   DAT-Dana (16:51) I can remove all of this every single time. And so it is, then it came down to conversations. And so we built up period of protocol. We talked about what if a patient refuses? We talk about, we still do restorative treatment if a patient refuses period? What are we doing in those instances? Because I wanted them to feel super confident. No matter who sat in their chair, they could navigate whatever they presented.   ⁓ And that they had something to fall back on and I think it was They had a very seasoned hygienist in their practice and I can't tell you how proud of her I was she made massive moves and had Conversations that I think she kind of knew needed to happen But because she had the framework to make them happen because she had a protocol to lean back on That she had something to give her confidence to say like yeah. No, this does   The Dental A Team (17:27) you   DAT-Dana (17:45) need to move in that direction. I mean she just made leaps and bounds. I mean she went from I think about 10 % perio to about 28 % when I was done with the hygiene department.   The Dental A Team (17:56) my gosh,   that's incredible. And Dana, just to give like our listeners a little like glimpse of you worked with this team for about two years, not hitting goal. mean, not hitting perio, not hitting fluoride, not being a producing hygiene team to two years later. Fast forward, just kind of give a glimpse of what this hygiene team looked like when you were wrapping up with that office.   DAT-Dana (18:14) Yeah, we went from pretty much not hitting goal routinely ever to hitting their daily goal about 90, 95 % of the time. So they made leaps and bounds and they had a lot of hard conversations because part of it was, you know, there is doctors play a part in this. And I think doctors oftentimes like will kind of be hands off. These doctors really wanted to be hands on totally fine. And so it was even getting alignment between the hygiene team and the doctors on perio.   on those pieces and so they had a lot of hard conversations they did a lot of calibration they even were calibrating probing depths and probe readings and like they've just put in a ton of work but that work gave them so much movement. ⁓   And I think just so much confidence as a hygiene department that like, we really can learn from each other. We really can teach each other. We really can have these conversations. And I think it also empowered the doctors to understand that like, again, it was a miss of expectations. Their team wanted to do a good job. Their team wanted to meet the protocol. Their team wanted to do what they wanted them to do or the standards that they had for their practice. They just needed to have the conversations, have the alignment and create those   boundaries amongst each other and it was truly amazing to see what they could do once they once they dug in.   The Dental A Team (19:37) ⁓ Dana, this, think is just a, there were so many pieces I heard that I hope office has got the number one I heard was the hygiene team wanted to make their doctors proud. And I think so many doctors think like they don't want to produce or they don't want to do this. And 95 % of all team players, I think you and I would agree to this, coaching as many as we have, there's like a very, very, very small percentage that actually is like not wanting to take care of their doctor. I'm like 98 % of them all want to take care of their doctors. So I think you guys just realizing and hearing that.   The second thing is like Dana, it was two years that she worked with this hygiene team. And what I gathered from all of it was alignment and why, and then giving them the confidence. Because what I found with hygienists is a lot of times the reason that they do bloody profis is not because they don't like they don't want to charge out a bloody profi. Like I feel like the hygienists are like my hands hurt and I just got paid for a profi when I did a full mouth of bribement or whatever it was that they did.   but they're uncomfortable with the conversation. And I don't blame hygienists. You sit there for an hour with this patient and you gotta chat along with them. And it's very uncomfortable to then have to say like, you've been seeing me for 10 years and now I've got to tell you you have perio. Like that's just such a, like I would rather not because I have to see this patient so closely. Or dentists, like not to say you don't have intimate relationships with your patients, but you usually come in for like five minutes for an exam. And then when you are doing treatment with a patient,   Usually their mouths open and they're numb and you can't like, they're not talking to you. And where this is a hygienist, is like therapy session in there, like a hairdresser almost where it's like such an intimate relationship that these hygienists build. And so Dana, think kudos to you to give this hygiene team confidence. And that's what I gathered was like alignment, confidence, and then also getting the doctors to align on expectations. So that way everybody is there. And like also to hear you say that a seasoned hygienist was able to make transformation, I think   I also think kudos to these doctors that saw the need of the hygiene department. They were like, let's laser focus in on this for two years, like two years they worked in. Yes, they expanded a little bit to other departments, but like Dana, mean, I just think about it. If you get your hygiene team from hitting goal, like none to hitting goal 90, 98 % of the time, the amount of revenue, the amount of patients, the amount of diagnosing and co-diagnosing with your doctors that these high Gens are able to do the amount of perio uptick.   Like we're going from $90 pro fees to 250 to $400 scalings. And not to say we're doing it to uptick for revenue. It's just, what the patients need. And we're starting to diagnose it correctly. well, Dana, you like paid for yourself a hundred times over. it's, that is the type of stuff. And now that hygiene team is confident, they're equipped, they're able to care for patients. And I guarantee you, Dana, I'm not a hygienist. So I'm just curious, like.   My hunch is a hygienist who's able to have the confidence, have these conversations actually leaves with more confidence as a hygienist rather than the hygienist who feels like they're taking care of a patient, but deep down knowing that they let the patient down, they just didn't know how to get out of that conversation.   DAT-Dana (22:38) Yeah, I think that that's that's one of the things that was like the beauty of being the person looking at from the outside in and I think it honestly truly I think allow them to like love being hygienist. I don't want to say again, right but even more ⁓ because I do think that as   hygienist and I think they even admitted like, hey, we've known some of these conversations needed to happen or are on the horizon of happening and we just didn't have the tools we didn't have that and we didn't want to say something and then have a doctor come in and disagree, right? Or we didn't want to do the wrong thing unintentionally. so having those guidelines, having the set protocols, the set   The Dental A Team (23:12) Mm-hmm.   DAT-Dana (23:20) pieces in place, I think really gave them confidence and also really truly then they could see what amazing patient care they were giving. And I honestly think it brought them just like closer as a department, a better culture for the practice and truly love being hygiene.   The Dental A Team (23:40) And I think Dana like I just see it even in you I hope you guys were able to see that clip of Dana like the the glowing radiance of excitement of being able to help hygienists love their profession even more to be confident in this I think that that is just magic for all of us to be able to watch that and see and I think for you guys listening one if you need help with your hygiene department I think Dana just showed like We really do very much give confidence to your department and I think doctors it's hard for you because you want to tell the hygienist what you want   But hygienists sometimes need to feel like heard, seen, and understood by someone who's more of a colleague and comrade to them. Like Dana is, she's a hygienist. She understands what those feelings feel like. And so to have a coach and a guide guide your hygiene department, bring the doctors and the hygienists together. But I love that it was like, let's explain why, let's align, let's give verbiage, let's get doctors and hygienists alignment. And then like really have somebody who's holding them accountable, driving these results with them. And the end result is a hygiene department that's flourishing, hitting goals and loving their profession.   And to me, that's gonna retain your hygiene department way more than not having the conversations. That's going to attract hygienists to your practice way more because you've now got raving fan hygienists who are confident that when someone new comes in, they give them the tools and the resources to be these great clinicians. I think Dana just like insane kudos and I hope people also hear that. And if you're interested, reach Hello@TheDentalATeam.com. This is what we do and Dana, like I said, Dynamite Dana over there, she just like, I think it's a subtle love.   of growing them of where they need to go and the results are just incredible.   DAT-Dana (25:13) Yeah, they were, they were a great group. They really dug in. And you're right, it does, it does help when they know, you've been there, you face the things you've had to have the conversations. ⁓ It just starts out with trust. And I mean, at the end of the two years, I just remember sitting down and saying, like, thank you so much for trusting me. Thank you so much for putting in the work. Because it's, it, it allowed me right, I'm not clinical really anymore, but it allowed me just the experience of   knowing and being super confident that like amazing patient care was walking out of there ⁓ truly was a highlight for me.   The Dental A Team (25:50) That's amazing. And I think Dana hearing that and the doctors win is that they also can leave at the end of the day, knowing that their hygiene department is delivering the patient care that they wanted, that they were hoping that like the doctor just could not get, I mean, and these are seasoned doctors. It's not like we were starting with a brand new practice. Like they had been working with this hygiene department for years. The hygiene department had gone through other hygiene coaching. And I think Dana just like to be able to give that to the patients, to the hygiene team and the practice, like   Such a gift and I'm really proud of you and I hope people listening realize this is a reality that has happened. Yes, we gave a one off office autopsy, but it happens for multiple other practices the same way. So if you're interested or you're thinking about it or other departments reach out and Dana, thanks for being on the podcast with me. Thank all of you for listening and as always, thanks for listening. I'll catch you next time on the Dental A Team Podcast.  

Kendra originally joined me to tell us about the depths of a drug addiction that no one in her current life knows about. It was really bad. She got into a lot of shady situations and she and her partner narrowly escaped death and avoided prison.  It's a riveting story for sure. But during the course of the interview, another, perhaps bigger secret emerged, and that's what I want you to listen for today.  It's a profound secret about her daughter which tested the love of her partner. Which secret will you think had the greater chance of upending Kendra's entire world? HOME CHEF Get 18 Free Meals, plus Free Shipping on your first box, and Free Dessert for Life, at HomeChef.com/SECRET.  Must be an active subscriber to receive free dessert. HERS Visit forhers.com/SECRET for your personalized weight loss treatment options. Not available everywhere. Hers Weight Loss includes compounded products which are not approved nor verified for safety or effectiveness by FDA. Prescription products require a provider consultation. Restrictions apply. Actual price to customer will depend on product and subscription plan purchase. LUMEN Head to lumen.me/SecretRoom for 20% off your purchase. PICTURES See pictures of Kendra, Eric and her daughter. They are waiting for you on Threads, Facebook, Instagram and X.  Handle: @secretroompod. THE SECRET ROOM | UNLOCKED In one week Unlocked brings you an original secret inspired by our recent episode “Dad's Other Life.” Host: Susie Lark. The Secret Room | Unlocked is yours when you support your favorite indie podcast that could with a membership at patreon.com/secretroom, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. There's a free trial! ALL OUR SPONSORS See all our sponsors past and present, and their offers, many of which are still valid: secretroompodcast.com/codes  FACEBOOK DISCUSSION GROUPThere's even more fun at The Secret Room Podcast Facebook Discussion Page!  Just ask to join, all are welcome. :) YOUR SECRET  Click "Share a Secret" at secretroompod.com! PODCAST TEAM Producer: Susie Lark. Story Development: Luna Patel. Music and Theme: Breakmaster Cylinder. LISTENER SURVEY Take our Listener Survey at SecretRoomPod.com!  

This week DPR gets back to our Patreon Selection Series with Jason Kiehn's selection, “Duma Key”. Join in as we discuss how to draw a picture, the concept of an ‘Other Life', the brutal recovery process Edgar endures, King's use of language as he writes Wireman, dog trauma, Big Pink, the possessed quality of the paintings, the pace of life on the Key, superpowered best friends, theories about Elizabeth's behavior, a crash course in art, and skin-diving. Scratch that phantom itch with Episode 164, ”Would You Turn Around?” Join our Discord community: https://discord.gg/ZNJvTgShkk For more Derry Public Radio, head over to www.patreon.com/derrypublicradio for exclusive episodes, early releases, and more bonus content! For everything else: https://linktr.ee/derrypublicradio

Hey Midnighters,This Saturday, thanks to the incredible Hans J, we're stepping into a realm of pure techno bliss with a guest mix that's nothing short of a sonic odyssey. His masterful selection for The Midnight Project isn't just a playlist; it's a manifesto of what techno can be when curated by a visionary.Hans J kicks off our journey with a bang, weaving the Charles D Epic mix of "Your Mind" by techno titans Adam Beyer and Bart Skils into the fabric of the night. This track is a beacon, guiding us into a world where each beat is a heartbeat, and every melody tells a story.Diving deeper, Hans J introduces us to his creations with "Other Life," a track that embodies the spirit of exploration and introspection. This track marks the beginning of an exclusive preview of his upcoming releases on Redesign Records this year. "Seriously" and "Energize Me" follow suit, each a testament to Hans J's unique ability to blend deep, emotional landscapes with the unrelenting energy of techno. These tracks are not just music; they're experiences, promising to captivate audiences worldwide upon release.The mix continues to unfold with selections like "The Incident" by Matt Sassari and BLR and "Like This" by William Kiss, showcasing the diverse spectrum of techno—from the depths of introspection to the peaks of exhilaration. Each track is a chapter in this night's story, meticulously chosen by Hans J to challenge our perceptions and elevate our spirits.As we move through the mix, tracks like "Be Careful" by Lampe and Frank Spector and "Simulator" by Adam Beyer and Green Velvet remind us of techno's power to convey messages, evoke emotions, and, most importantly, unite us on the dance floor.With each transition, Hans J guides us through a carefully crafted narrative, culminating in a crescendo of sound that leaves us longing for more. His selections highlight his prowess as a DJ and hint at the exciting future that awaits with his upcoming releases on Redesign Records.This guest mix by Hans J reminds us of why we gather under the techno banner. It's a call to arms for those who live and breathe this music and an invitation to join the ranks of the Midnighters. As we look forward to the release of "Other Life," "Seriously," and "Energize Me" on Redesign Records, let's embrace the energy, the emotion, and the essence of techno together.Remember, the full tracklist awaits at 1001 Tracklists, a treasure trove for any true techno enthusiast. And as always, keep the vibe alive by subscribing to the show and sharing this electrifying journey with fellow techno lovers. Let's hear which track moved you the most or suggest an artist you think should grace our decks next. Together, we are The Midnight Project.Stay tuned, stay inspired, and let the beats guide you through the night.Until next time,Sebastiaan

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A personal reflection and update on my 5-year journey to design a new kind of scholarly life for the internet era. In a previous podcast, I shared how the Other Life company hit some hard times. Here I explain what I learned from that, and how I've turned it around. I share some meditations on the pursuit of weird goals, finding one's own path, and some new things I've come to learn about entrepreneurship. The ultimate meaning and purpose of the "other life" concept has really come home to me in the past few months.Other Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world https://OtherLife.coIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent creative work, join the next cohort of https://IndieThinkers.org(00:00) - A Late Night Message (01:19) - On authenticity (04:12) - Creativity vs. Business (10:51) - The Creator Economy and Power (11:50) - Network Power (14:46) - The Fear of Failure (16:19) - What is the Other Life? (18:53) - On Truth (19:17) - The Future of Other Life

Andrea Hollander⁠, author of ⁠six poetry books⁠, moved to Portland, Oregon, in 2011, after living for more than three decades in the Arkansas Ozarks, where she was innkeeper of a bed & breakfast for fifteen years and Writer-in-Residence at Lyon College for twenty-two. Hollander's newly released sixth full-length collection is ⁠And Now, Nowhere But Here (Terrapin Books, 2023)⁠. Her fifth, Blue Mistaken for Sky, was a finalist for the Best Book Award in Poetry from the American Book Fest; her fourth, Landscape with Female Figure: New & Selected Poems, 1982- 2012, was a finalist for the Oregon Book Award; her first, House Without a Dreamer, won the Nicholas Roerich Poetry Prize and was recently reissued, along with The Other Life, Hollander's second full-length collection, by Red Hen Press in its Story Line Legacy series. Her poems and essays appear widely in anthologies, college textbooks, and literary journals, including a recent feature in The New York Times Magazine. Other honors include two Pushcart Prizes (in poetry and literary nonfiction), two fellowships in poetry from the National Endowment for the Arts, and the 2021 49th Parallel Award in Poetry. After teaching for two literary centers in Portland for six years, in 2017 she initiated the Ambassador Writing Seminars, which she conducted in her home until the pandemic, and now via Zoom. ⁠Emily Ransdell⁠'s debut collection, ⁠One Finch Singing⁠, was awarded the 2022 Lewis Award and was published in 2023 by Concrete Wolf Press. She holds an MFA in Poetry from Pacific University. Emily divides her time between Camas Washington and Manazaita Oregon, where she teaches poetry workshops through the Hoffman Center for the Arts.  

On muddling through, faith, and the absurdity of pursuing a singular creative vision on the open market...A story about the past few months of Other Life (and the next few).✦ If you're in the Los Angeles area, come to our meetup tomorrow Friday Dec. 1 at 3pm in Santa Monica. RSVP here.Other Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world https://otherlife.co✦ Become a member https://otherlife.co/upgrade

Can artificial intelligence ever truly replace the human mind? In this thought-provoking episode, we explore the delicate balance between embracing AI's power for mechanical tasks, such as summarizing and translating, while preserving the uniquely human elements that make great works truly great.Join us as we navigate the rapidly evolving landscape of AI, breaking down categorical humanism and unreconstructed Faustianism, two alternative viewpoints on the topic. We discuss why neither position is fully consistent or defensible, and the importance of understanding the different aspects of human cognition in order to determine which elements can be outsourced to machines and which must remain uniquely human. Don't miss this fascinating conversation about where we draw the line between human intelligence and machine intelligence.Chapters:(00:00:22) - Two Futures for AI(00:05:11) - What Should Writers Outsource To AI?Other Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest free newsletter in the world and I'll send you all of my private book highlights. https://otherlife.co✦ Join the Other Life community (free) https://otherlife.co/joinIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent projects, join the next cohort of https://IndieThinkers.org

Why do some incredibly talented individuals never reach their full potential? In today's episode, we dive into the fascinating life of Ezra Pound, a true genius in the realm of language and literature, yet somehow failing to make the lasting impact of his contemporaries like TS Eliot or WB Yeats. We'll explore the idea I call "the curse of genius" and how Pound's obsession with power and acknowledgment may have held him back from greatness.Join me in this thought-provoking exploration of Ezra Pound's life and career, from his influential role as an editor and promoter of other poets, to his controversial leanings toward fascism later in life. We'll seek to understand the man behind the poetry, the impact he had on the world of arts and letters, and the lessons we can learn from his story for our own personal endeavors and for recognizing the pitfalls that can accompany great talent and ambition.Chapters:(00:01:21) - Pound's Curse(00:05:28) - What Happens When You Aim for Influence?(00:08:58) - Let the Chips Fall Where They MayOther Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest free newsletter in the world and I'll send you all of my private book highlights. https://otherlife.co✦ Join the Other Life community (free) https://otherlife.co/joinIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent projects, join the next cohort of https://IndieThinkers.org

In this episode, we explore the principle of writing for oneself and how many of history's greatest writers have operated on this principle. We discuss the importance of writing in a way that pleases only oneself and how sacrificing even a hair of one's vision in order to please someone else is the most abject of treacheries. Listen in as we examine the stakes of writing and how it truly matters whether you're writing for yourself out of a conviction in truth and beauty, or for others in order to please them.We also discuss the challenges of writing for oneself in the era of social media, where the nearness of the audience can make one lose the self. We consider the difficulty of recultivating the self in today's world and how it requires a certain degree of anti-social discipline and effortful recultivation of the self.Chapters:(0:00:00) - Writing for Yourself(0:05:56) - Cultivating A Self Other Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest free newsletter in the world and I'll send you all of my private book highlights. https://otherlife.co✦ Join the Other Life community (free) https://otherlife.co/joinIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent projects, join the next cohort of https://IndieThinkers.org

Why do 22-year-olds today have the testosterone levels of 67-year-old men from the year 2000? Could it be because high testosterone activities and behaviors are increasingly being criminalized? I dive into the theory that the modern world is contributing to the decline in testosterone levels by stigmatizing and punishing testosterone-loaded activities, leading to a downward spiral in overall testosterone levels.Join me as look at the evolution of law enforcement, the rise of a culture that labels aggressive behaviors as "toxic," and how movies from the 70s and 80s highlight a higher testosterone society. Discover how this decline in testosterone affects men today and how our society has slowly evolved to prevent these once-commonplace behaviors from happening. 0:00:39 - Testosterone and Prison0:02:04 - Testosterone in the 70's and 80's0:06:16 - Toxic Masculinity and Testosterone0:08:26 - Testosterone's Catch 22(Sorry for some clicking in the audio, there were some issues with my set up that I didn't notice until after I was done recording. We'll get that sorted!)Other Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest free newsletter in the world and I'll send you all of my private book highlights. https://otherlife.co✦ Join the Other Life community (free) https://otherlife.co/joinIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent projects, join the next cohort of https://IndieThinkers.org

Today we're looking at the life of Dr. Samuel Johnson, an eighteenth-century English critic who embodied the true spirit of self-reliance and perseverance. Despite facing various hardships in his life, Dr. Johnson managed to defy the odds and become one of the most influential figures in the history of English letters. Join us as we uncover the fascinating journey of this unconventional thinker, and learn how his life can serve as a powerful reminder that success is indeed possible, even for those who may not fit into traditional molds.We delve into his unique approach to life and work, highlighting how his unorthodox methods eventually played a significant role in his success, and how his unwavering belief in his own abilities and his refusal to rely on external support allowed him to carve out a path to success. Success is inevitable for those who put in the work.0:00:00 - Intro and Early Life0:04:50 - Samuel Johnson's Writing Career0:12:36 - The Patronage Model0:18:55 - Success By Perseverance and Self-Reliance(Sorry for some clicking in the audio, there were some issues with my set up that I didn't notice until after I was done recording. We'll get that sorted!)Other Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest free newsletter in the world and I'll send you all of my private book highlights. https://otherlife.co✦ Join the Other Life community (free) https://otherlife.co/joinIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent projects, join the next cohort of https://IndieThinkers.org

What can the ancient philosopher Plato teach us about building a network and thriving in today's intellectual economy? I talk with Alex Petkas, a Princeton PhD in classics, who shares insights on Plato's rise and his brand-building strategies within the decentralized world of Athens in the late fifth and fourth centuries BC, where widespread literacy and the new media technology of writing created an intellectual landscape strikingly similar to the one we inhabit today.(0:00:00) - Introduction(0:04:51) - Plato and Ancient Greek Writing(0:20:04) - Plato's Models and Brand Building(0:33:55) - Plato's Rise and Influence(0:43:45) - Plato and the Power of Mystery(0:52:44) - Plato's Network and Philosophical Training(1:02:44) - The Economic Machinery of Philosophy(1:07:56) - Plato's Power Machinery and Business Model(1:20:29) - Plato's Lessons on Building a Network(1:25:59) - Plato's Lessons for Decentralized Thinking(1:35:31) - Alex's Rome RetreatAlex Petkas | https://ancientlifecoach.com/Learn more about Alex's upcoming Men's Retreat in Rome: https://ancientlifecoach.com/retreat/Other Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest free newsletter in the world and I'll send you all of my private book highlights. https://otherlife.co✦ Join the Other Life community (free) https://otherlife.co/joinIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent projects, join the next cohort of https://IndieThinkers.org

Oscar Wilde and J.R.R. Tolkien used consumer culture to create works of art. In this podcast, we try to draw some lessons from their lives. I'm joined by Paul Fortunato, an English professor at the University of Houston Downtown. Paul is also a member of Opus Dei, and the author of a book about Oscar Wilde's "consumer modernism." We discuss how Wilde and Tolkien successfully navigated the "creator economy," as well as Oscar Wilde's little-known Catholicism.✦ Subscribe to Paul on Youtube✦ Paul's book on Oscar WildeOther Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world https://OtherLife.co✦ Get a free Urbit ship at https://imperceptible.computer✦ We're building a new country at https://imperceptible.countryIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent intellectual work, join the next cohort of https://IndieThinkers.org

It's widely believed the YouTube algorithm radicalizes viewers but Mark's research puts this theory to rest. Researcher and longtime member of the Other Life community, Mark Ledwich, has been studying the YouTube algorithm independently for several years. His research has been published in academic journals and now on a public website called transparency.tube. He joins the podcast to discuss how the YouTube algorithm really works, what everyone is getting wrong, and why it matters. He also comes to pick a bone with my position on shoplifting from self-checkout kiosks.Check out Mark's research at transparency.tube.Follow Mark on Twitter at https://twitter.com/mark_ledwichOther Life ✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world https://OtherLife.co ✦ Get a free Urbit ship at https://imperceptible.computer ✦ We're building a new country at https://imperceptible.countryIndieThinkers.org ✦ If you're working on independent intellectual work, join the next cohort of https://IndieThinkers.org

Colin Redemer is a professor at Saint Mary's College of California and VP of the Davenant Institute. This podcast is all about Virtue Ethics and the Aristotelian ethical tradition. Is Virtue Ethics superior to utilitarianism and effective altruism? What is human excellence? What is eudaimonia? How should one live? We also discuss later developments in Aristotelian ethics, from Aquinas to Anscombe to MacIntyre.✦ Order Colin's new book, The Shining Human Creature✦ Follow Colin on Twitter✦ Learn more about the Davenant InstituteOther Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world OtherLife.co✦ Get a free Urbit ship at imperceptible.computer✦ Become a member at imperceptible.countryIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on an independent project, join the next cohort of IndieThinkers.org

Thank you so much for being here. In episode 2, Falen chats for a bit, so emails begin at 8:58.Falen is sharing emails from you. Untagging photos, taking her car to smoke weed after her grandma's funeral, breaking up over frozen yogurt...this and more in today's episode!Also, don't miss the teaser at the end of the episode for next week's episode with a guest!Email your stories to falen@kdwb.com

Some lessons from the life of painter Francis Bacon. I think the unique force and violence of Bacon's paintings derive partially from the ascetic Lebenswelt he cultivated. Into his small but chaotic atelier, Bacon allowed almost nothing other than painting supplies and his varied source materials: Photographs, books, magazines, etc. He locked himself into an otherwise closed circuit of his own reflections. He would even write handwritten notes to himself about what he should be thinking about.✦ Read more (with images) at otherlife.co/francisbaconOther Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world https://OtherLife.co✦ Join the community at https://imperceptible.countryIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on an independent project, join the next cohort of https://IndieThinkers.org

This episode was jam-packed with a triple feature! It kicked off with Sergito and his Meebit/6529 Meme card drop. Then Keith Grossman, Moonpay and nightlife.xyz all came up to talk about their latest joint effort called other life. Finally we had roor.io, who share their new artist collective dropping hangtags, along with digital and physical sneaker products!Get the full notes here: Gldn's notesGM Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I spent a lot of time reading and thinking about AI this week. I'm especially interested in the implications it will have for writers and the so-called creator economy. Obviously things will change if it becomes nearly free to generate decently intelligent content with machines. But how will things change exactly, and how should writers spend their time now to position themselves for these changes? I think the implications are not obvious. Specifically, AI will increase the economic power of deep classical education, and truly unique artistic personality. In this podcast, I explain why.I wrote more about this at otherlife.co/writing-machinesOther Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world https://OtherLife.co✦ Get a free Urbit ship at https://imperceptible.computer✦ Join the community https://imperceptible.countryIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent projects, join the next cohort of https://IndieThinkers.org

I'd like to share with you some biographies of great writers, artists, maybe some inventors—people who represent the other life ethos—people who have produced great work from the fringes, or in weird niches they carved out for themselves in life.Here is a passage from a biography of the French novelist Balzac, Prométhée: ou, La vie de Balzac (1965) by André Maurois. I've translated it to English, of course.This is a story about reading books, childhood, the productive benefits of disordered knowledge, unjustified presumption, an obsession with printed paper, ecstasy as a motivator and a product, and a kind of hunger that nothing can ever satisfy.It paints a fascinating picture of education in France in the early 19th century. But it's also an inspiring vignette about something we see in the early lives of many great writers, which is... Here we have a strange, disaffected, aloof child who just seems a bit absurd or confused or even dumb—his teachers and classmates literally thought he was just stupid—but his appetite for wonder and knowledge drives him, from an early age, to just totally withdraw from society, into a life of the mind. That's the other life.If you'd rather read than listen, see otherlife.co/balzac.Other Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world https://OtherLife.co✦ Get a free Urbit ship at https://imperceptible.computer✦ Join our network state at https://imperceptible.countryIndieThinkers.org✦ The next cohort of IndieThinkers.org starts Jan 16. If you're working on independent projects, request an invitation.

Luke Smith was a PhD student in linguistics before he grew his Youtube channel to 168,000 subscribers—with his unique perspectives on digital, financial, and mental sovereignty. This is the first time he's told his story at length.I invited Luke to be the special guest at this year's mansion because I think he exemplifies the Other Life mentality. Luke has totally exited the institutional grid, he maintains a very independent perspective and lifestyle, and he publishes his ideas to a growing audience without compromising his principles. Luke only uses Free and Open Source Software, does not watch any TV or streaming services, and recently became an Orthodox Christian.I think you'll find this talk interesting, unique, funny, and inspiring.A special shoutout goes to Marissa Cade—a longstanding and most valued member of the community—for running the mansion meetup this year. It wouldn't have happened if she didn't volunteer to run it. And she did a great job, so huge thanks Marissa.Other Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world https://OtherLife.co✦ Get a free Urbit ship at https://imperceptible.computerIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent creative work, join the next cohort of https://IndieThinkers.org

Tropical & Topical! Monica Survives Katie's Interrogation! Tell Ya Later literally welcomes Monica Padilla (or should we say Jillian Marshall?)! What's next for Jillian and Jason on Adventures in Odyssey? Monica's not so secret "Other Life" at DisneyWorld and elsewhere! Pocahontas Sings "I"m a Survivor?!" Misappropriation? Discrimination? Better Call Monica! Big thanks to our Patrons! Join our Patreon Family and enjoy all new episodes of our other shows including "Welcome to Later," "Adventures in Popcorn," and more Fun Stuff! https://www.patreon.com/TellYaLater Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tellyalater... Get the Updated edition of our book, "ADVENTURES IN ODDITY" with 58 all-new pages - new cartoons by Will too! Learn more about Iggledip and other oddities! Order your autographed paperback copy.......https://www.katieleigh.com/books-audio OR the audiobook: https://www.katieleigh.com/books-audio OR Watch us "perform" the BONUS CHAPTERS via our VIDEOBOOK available on Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/ondemand/adventures... --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/tell-ya-later/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/tell-ya-later/support

Asher Penn is the founder and editor of Sex Magazine, now in its 10th year. We talk about the magazine business, how to persist on countercultural projects for the long haul, what's cool and what's not, how to spot underground talent, the enduring value of print, what Asher learned from interviewing William Gibson, and much more. This was recorded at Urbit Assembly 2022. Asher PennBuy Sex Magazine at https://sexmag.bigcartel.com/Other Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world https://OtherLife.co✦ Get a free Urbit ship at https://imperceptible.computerIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent work, join the next cohort of https://IndieThinkers.org

Subscribe to The Network Age podcast wherever you get your podcasts https://rss.com/podcasts/thenetworkage~timluc-miptev: https://twitter.com/basileSportif~nilrun-mardux: https://twitter.com/alephdao~bichul-ritsen: https://twitter.com/bichulrRecommended reading mentionedhttps://bichulritsen.substack.com/p/how-to-explain-ftx-to-your-motherhttps://www.thediff.co/p/money-credit-trust-ftxOther Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world https://OtherLife.co✦ Get a free Urbit ship at https://imperceptible.computer

Alex Lee Moyer is the director of TFW NO GF and most recently Alex's War. We discuss Alex's perspective on filmmaking, Hollywood, independent vs. institutional pathways, and why it's worthwhile to produce politically difficult work. This was recorded at Urbit Assembly 2022.Alex Lee Moyer✦ Watch Moyer's new documentary on Alex JonesOther Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world https://OtherLife.co✦ Get a free Urbit ship at https://imperceptible.computerIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent intellectual work, join the next cohort of https://IndieThinkers.org

Don't Obey the Algorithms; Ye is the GOAT; my review of Sam Kriss on "The Internet is Already Over", and Nick Land Dead or Alive.Other Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world https://OtherLife.co✦ Get a free Urbit ship at https://imperceptible.computerIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent intellectual work, join the next cohort of https://IndieThinkers.org

Every sentence from Nick Land's Meltdown, one at a time. https://nicklandcourse.comOther Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world OtherLife.co✦ Get a free Urbit ship at imperceptible.computer✦ We're building a new country at imperceptible.countryIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent intellectual work, join the next cohort of IndieThinkers.org

Now that we're past Peak Wokeness, has "heterodoxy" exhausted itself? That's the argument of David Fuller, co-founder of Rebel Wisdom, a popular but now retired media brand. We discuss the problem of audience capture, whether Eric Weinstein and Jordan Peterson lost the plot, why David and Alexander decided to shut down Rebel Wisdom, and the deep-reaching effects that Covid has had on public intellectual life.David Fuller✦ David Fuller on Twitter✦ David's website Other Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world https://OtherLife.co✦ Get a free Urbit ship at https://imperceptible.computerIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent intellectual work, join the next cohort of https://IndieThinkers.org

TM News 115 - Pandemic Over, Matter from Nothing, DARPA Drone, Russian Execs, Deep Fake Jobs http://www.troubledminds.org Support The Show! https://rokfin.com/creator/troubledminds https://troubledfans.com/ https://patreon.com/troubledminds https://www.buymeacoffee.com/troubledminds https://www.twitch.tv/troubledmindsradio #aliens #conspiracy #paranormal--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------New Boosters Test Covid-Weary Nation.Do Americans Care? - The New York Timeshttps://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/18/us/covid-vaccine.htmlBiden told '60 Minutes' COVID pandemic 'is over,' sparking liberal backlashhttps://nypost.com/2022/09/19/biden-told-60-minutes-covid-pandemic-is-over-sparking-liberal-backlash/Tardigrades survive being dried out thanks to proteins found in no other animals on Earth | Live Sciencehttps://www.livescience.com/tardigrades-survive-drying-out-proteinsScientists create matter from nothing in groundbreaking experiment - BGRhttps://bgr.com/science/scientists-create-matter-from-nothing-in-groundbreaking-experiment/55 Years on from the Patterson-Gimlin Sasquatch Film, Bigfoot Halloween Costumes are Still Booming… | by Michael Strange | Sep, 2022 | Mediumhttps://medium.com/@troubledmindsradio/55-years-on-from-the-patterson-gimlin-sasquatch-film-bigfoot-halloween-costumes-are-still-booming-3e802f7f9e8fScientists Created 'Living' Synthetic Cells by Harvesting Bacteria For Parts : ScienceAlerthttps://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-created-living-synthetic-cells-by-harvesting-bacteria-for-partsHere Comes DARPA's Electric-Powered Spy Dronehttps://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a41109701/darpa-ancillary-spy-drone/Pentagon reviews psychological operations amid Facebook, Twitter complaints - The Washington Posthttps://archive.ph/qFnlsArtists begin selling AI-generated artwork on stock photography websites | Ars Technicahttps://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/09/artists-begin-selling-ai-generated-artwork-on-stock-photography-websites/You Can Now Check if Your Photos Were Used to Train AI Image Generators | PetaPixelhttps://petapixel.com/2022/09/19/you-can-now-check-if-your-photos-were-used-to-train-ai-image-generators/HP targets construction sites with autonomous floorplan-printing robotshttps://newatlas.com/robotics/hp-siteprint-building-blueprint/Talking to whales: can AI bridge the chasm between our consciousness and other animals? | Whales | The Guardianhttps://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/sep/18/talking-to-whales-with-artificial-enterprise-it-may-soon-be-possibleMore Pain for Facebook and Nvidia - TheStreethttps://www.thestreet.com/technology/more-pain-for-facebook-and-nvidiaChina unveils scientific research results of Mars mission - CGTNhttps://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-09-18/China-releases-first-batch-of-research-from-Mars-exploration-1dqlz05cRsQ/index.htmlWhat Really Killed Dinosaurs and Other Life on Earth? Maybe NOT an Asteroid Strikehttps://scitechdaily.com/what-really-killed-dinosaurs-and-other-life-on-earth-maybe-not-an-asteroid-strike/Behold! Webb Telescope's first Mars image reveals a troubled planethttps://www.inverse.com/science/heres-what-we-can-see-in-webbs-first-images-of-marsRussian executives, some from Gazprom, keep dying in strange wayshttps://www.grid.news/story/global/2022/09/16/why-do-russian-executives-including-4-connected-with-gazprom-keep-dying-in-strange-ways/The Search for Intelligent Life Is About to Get a Lot More Interesting - The New York Timeshttps://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/15/magazine/extraterrestrials-technosignatures.htmlThe FBI Says People Are Using Deepfakes to Apply to Remote Jobs » TwistedSifterhttps://twistedsifter.com/2022/09/the-fbi-says-people-are-using-deepfakes-to-apply-to-remote-jobs/Scientists Say Refreezing Earth's Poles Is Feasible and Remarkably Cheaphttps://scitechdaily.com/scientists-say-refreezing-earths-poles-is-feasible-and-remarkably-cheap/Disney World fans say theme park 'has lost its magic'https://nypost.com/2022/09/19/disney-world-fans-say-theme-park-has-lost-its-magic/Scientists Quantum Entangled Atomic Clocks 6 Feet Apart to Probe Fabric of Realityhttps://www.vice.com/en/article/93adwd/scientists-quantum-entangle-atomic-clocks-studyFacebook directly linked to decline in mental health, new study says | The Times of Israelhttps://www.timesofisrael.com/facebook-directly-linked-to-decline-in-mental-health-new-study-says/

Joey Krug is Co-Chief Investment Officer at Pantera Capital, the biggest crypto hedge fund in the world. Joey's AngelList syndicate is also one of the most successful ever. We talk about Urbit as an investment and how to identify underpriced value more generally.Joey Krug✦ Joey on Twitter✦ Pantera CapitalOther Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world https://OtherLife.co✦ Get a free Urbit ship at https://imperceptible.computerIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent intellectual work, join the next cohort of https://IndieThinkers.org

It's not all about the asteroid. Some scientists are still debating what caused the dinosaurs to go extinct and a new study provides some interesting evidence for the role of volcanoes in the mass extinction event. Plus, we know concrete isn't great for keeping buildings cool, but just how bad is it? And what other greener methods did its adoption stamp out that could be revived?Sponsors:Indeed, Get a free $75 credit PLUS earn up to $500 extra in sponsored job credits with Indeed's Virtual Interviews at Indeed.com/goodnewsShopify, Get a 14-day free trial at shopify.com/coolLinks:What Killed Dinosaurs and Other Life on Earth? (Dartmouth)Did Volcanic Eruptions Drive Dinosaurs to Extinction? (Discover)Examining what killed the dinosaurs in depth (Phys.org)Keep buildings cool as it gets hotter by resurrecting traditional architectural techniques (The Conversation)When in Need, What to Read: Introducing our new advice column for book lovers. (Literary Hub)Jackson Bird on TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Justin Murphy, Ph.D., is a political scientist whose research has been published in peer-reviewed journals. He received his Ph.D. from Temple University in 2014 before teaching political science at the University of Southampton, where he was a permanent Lecturer. In 2019, he left academia to focus on research and teaching. He now works full-time independently on the internet - OtherLife.co. (0:00) Creator Economy (10:22) Negatives of Posting (13:41) Free Thinker (17:45) Tech Overlords (22:56) Urbit (32:11) Leaving Academia (33:48) Bitcoin (38:28) Technological Innovation (41:40) Apocalypse (50:23) Seeking Truth - Justin's Links Justin's Website – OtherLife.co Justin's Twitter – https://twitter.com/jmrphy My Links

Timluc is a top Urbit engineer and founder of Uqbar, a zero-knowledge ETH Layer 2 built on Urbit.Timluc is one of the highest-conviction Urbit bulls in the world. We talked about why he has so much confidence in Urbit, what people misunderstand about Urbit, why he went from BTC Maxi to ETH Maxi, and what he learned about crypto living in Ukraine when the war broke out.~timluc-miptev✦ Follow Timluc on Twitter✦ Subscribe to timluc's new podcast The Network Age✦ The Uqbar crew is eager to talk with you in their Urbit group: ~hocwyn-tipwex/uqbar-event-horizon-foreverOther Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world OtherLife.co✦ Get a free Urbit ship at imperceptible.computerIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent intellectual work, join the next cohort of IndieThinkers.org

Marty Bent is the founder of TFTC.io, a media company focused on Bitcoin and freedom in the digital age. We discuss the "ESG" movement, how Marty built his media company, and how he's now building a natural gas company with Bitcoin mining.Marty Bent✦ Marty's newsletter✦ Marty's podcasts✦ Marty on TwitterOther Life✦ Subscribe to the Other Life newsletter✦ Get a free Urbit ship at imperceptible.computer✦ Join the community at imperceptible.countryIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent intellectual work, join the next cohort of IndieThinkers.org

~Nilrun-mardux is co-host of The Network Age podcast and founder of AlephDAO, an early network state project on Urbit via El Salvador.~Nilrun-mardux✦ Nilrun is on Twitter at @alephdao✦ Subscribe to The Network Age podcast (formerly Web0) on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or Google PodcastsOther Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world OtherLife.co✦ Get a free Urbit planet at imperceptible.computer✦ We're building a new country at imperceptible.countryIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent intellectual work, join the next cohort of IndieThinkers.org

Ellie Hain and Joe Edelman are itinerant thinkers designing a new kind of social movement. We discuss what they've learned from Charles Taylor and Amartya Sen, why Effective Altruism can be so cringe, Joe's role building Couchsurfing.com, and much more.Ellie HainJoe EdelmanOther Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world OtherLife.co✦ Get a free Urbit ship at imperceptible.computer✦ We're building a new country at imperceptible.country

Logistical acceleration refers to the logistic function, otherwise known as an S-shaped growth curve. Techno-economic interactivity is a key postulate of Land's ideas. Elsewhere, he will frequently use the adjective techonomic.Other Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world https://OtherLife.co✦ Get a free Urbit ship at https://imperceptible.computer✦ We're building a new country at https://imperceptible.countryIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent intellectual work, join the next cohort of https://IndieThinkers.org

In the most underrated work of social theory from the 1990s, Nick Land presents a sweeping theory of modernity.With about 3,500 words and only 4 citations, Meltdown seems to comprehend—and arguably foretell—a range of momentous historical developments that will only arrive decades later. From cryptocurrency to the Covid pandemic, Meltdown sees it all coming.And yet, few social scientists have ever deigned to take this work seriously.The time is nigh. otherlife.co/renaissance-rationalizationOther Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world https://OtherLife.co✦ We're building a network state https://imperceptible.countryIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on creative or intellectual work, join the next cohort of https://IndieThinkers.org

Geoffrey Shullenberger (@daily_barbarian) is a lecturer at NYU and runs the newsletter and podcast. Geoffrey teaches the Other Life course on René Girard.The Girard Course✦ Download our free 18-page syllabus to get started reading GirardOther Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world OtherLife.co✦ Get a free Urbit ship at imperceptible.computer✦ We're building a new country at imperceptible.countryIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent intellectual work, join the next cohort of IndieThinkers.org

Rachel-Rose O'Leary was an artist before getting into crypto through Nick Land and Julian Assange. She's now a programmer working with Amir Taaki to build a crypto-anarchist DeFi ecosystem called DarkFi.✦ DarkFi✦ Rachel-Rose on TwitterOther Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world OtherLife.co✦ Get a free Urbit planet at imperceptible.computer✦ We're building a new country at imperceptible.countryIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent intellectual work, join the next cohort of IndieThinkers.org

James Ellis hosts the podcast Hermitix. His latest book is Be Not Afraid, a fictionalized account of his recent conversion to Christianity. We discuss James' actual conversion story, Saint Teresa Benedicta and CS Lewis among others, and James' journey as a writer and podcaster.✦ Be Not Afraid✦ James' current writing✦ The Hermitix podcast✦ James on TwitterOther Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world OtherLife.co✦ Get a free Urbit planet at imperceptible.computer✦ We're building a new country at imperceptible.countryIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent intellectual work, join the next cohort of IndieThinkers.org

Neal Davis is a professor of computer science and the director of Urbit's Hoon School. We discuss why solving nuclear fusion might be a disaster, why Urbit computers have souls, Shinto philosophy, why you should read old books, how to select books, and much more. This was really good!Neal Davis✦ Neal on Twitter✦ Neal on Urbit: ~lagrev-nocfep✦ Learn Hoon with NealOther Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world OtherLife.co✦ Get a free Urbit planet at imperceptible.computer✦ We're building a new country at imperceptible.countryIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent intellectual work, join the next cohort of IndieThinkers.org

Vers la Lune is an NFT degen who hosts the podcast Version 4, which published the first interview with Miya the BPD God in 2020. As Crypto Twitter influencers try to cancel the Milady NFTs for association with Miya, this podcast provides a totally different narrative in the context of Vers' first-hand knowledge of the Miya/Milady nexus and his larger perspective on NFT valuation.Vers la Lune✦ Vers on Twitter✦ The Version 4 podcast with Charlotte Fang representing MiyaOther Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world OtherLife.co✦ Get a free Urbit planet at imperceptible.computer✦ We're building a new country at imperceptible.countryIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent intellectual work, join the next cohort of IndieThinkers.org

Noah Kumin is the founder and editor of the Mars Review of Books, a new magazine published from Urbit (in print and digital). Check out the Mars Review of Books at https://marsreview.org.Mars Review of Books✦ Order Vol. 1 in print✦ Noah on Urbit: ~librex-dozryc✦ Noah on TwitterOther Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world OtherLife.co✦ Get a free Urbit ship at imperceptible.computer✦ We're building a new country at imperceptible.countryIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent intellectual work, join the next cohort of IndieThinkers.org

Johnathan Bi is a founder and independent scholar working on René Girard. Johnathan just published a professionally-produced YouTube series on Girard, in collaboration with David Perell. We discuss the concept of metaphysical desire, how to engineer social environments for productive mimesis, whether Girard can be separated from Christianity (Johnathan thinks he can), and the strategy behind Johnathan's new lecture series on YouTube.To learn more about and watch/listen to the first episode, check out: https://twitter.com/JohnathanBi/status/1530297358432407553Johnathan Bi✦ Johnathan's website✦ Johnathan on TwitterOther Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world OtherLife.co✦ We're building a new country at imperceptible.countryIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent intellectual work, join the next cohort of IndieThinkers.org

I'm joined by @lb_dobis, @yung_calibri, @SCHIZO_FREQ, @addytheyoung.Other Life✦ Subscribe to the coolest newsletter in the world https://OtherLife.co✦ Get a free Urbit planet at https://imperceptible.computer✦ We're building a new country at https://imperceptible.countryIndieThinkers.org✦ If you're working on independent intellectual work, join the next cohort of https://IndieThinkers.org