Podcast appearances and mentions of Dean Johnson

Exploring Barbecue Sauces and Seasonings with The Tailgate Foodie In this episode of the Okayest Cook Podcast, host Chris and guest Dean Johnson from The Tailgate Foodie dive into the world of barbecue sauces and seasonings. They discuss the unexpected live YouTube broadcast and share their experiences with various sauces, including Dean's creations like the All American Barbecue Sauce, Low Country Gold, and Alabama White Sauce. Dean explains the intricate process of developing these products, including the importance of balancing flavors and the role of food science. They also share personal stories and recipes, such as the Nashville Hot Chicken Sloppy Joes with Dill Pickle Slaw and cooking tips for enhancing store-bought sauces. The conversation highlights the passion and expertise behind The Tailgate Foodie's unique offerings, making it a must-listen for food enthusiasts. Find Dean - The Tailgate Foodie Web: https://thetailgatefoodie.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thetailgatefoodie/ 10% off Discount Code: okayestfoodie ~  Support Okayest Cook by shopping with our favorite brands ~ Anova: We love their Precision Cooker 3.0 & vac sealers - https://bit.ly/3WT36ZR MEAT!: Powerful meat grinders - https://bit.ly/4ho5a4r Hedley & Bennett: Quality Aprons - https://hedley-and-bennett.sjv.io/EEzBq2 Yeti: The king of coolers - https://yetius.pxf.io/a1NJXq Lodge: Cast Iron cooking - https://lodgecastiron.pxf.io/zxe7dr ~ 00:00 Unexpected YouTube Live Stream 00:44 Summer Vibes and Beard Talk 02:02 Introducing Dean Johnson: The Tailgate Foodie 03:27 The Journey of Tailgate Foodie 06:13 Notable Meals of the Week 09:54 The Magic of Low Country Gold 12:49 Exploring Unique Barbecue Sauces 18:49 Creating the Perfect Barbecue Sauce 24:30 The Certified Flavor Project 33:15 Exploring Sauce Development 33:51 The Quest for the Perfect Ketchup 34:29 Crafting the Ideal Barbecue Sauce 34:58 Balancing Sweetness and Heat 36:13 The Magic of Molasses and Vinegar 38:01 Customizing Sauces for Personal Taste 39:35 The Carolina Gold Sauce Story 43:36 Versatility of Sauces with Game Meat 54:36 Nashville Hot Chicken Sloppy Joes Recipe 01:00:50 Final Thoughts and Social Media Plugs   ~ Support Okayest Cook by shopping with our favorite brands ~ Anova: We love their Precision Cooker 3.0 & vac sealers - https://bit.ly/3WT36ZR MEAT!: Powerful meat grinders - https://bit.ly/4ho5a4r Hedley & Bennett: Quality Aprons - https://hedley-and-bennett.sjv.io/EEzBq2 Yeti: The king of coolers - https://yetius.pxf.io/a1NJXq Lodge: Cast Iron cooking - https://lodgecastiron.pxf.io/zxe7dr ~ More at OkayestCook.com Connect with us on Instagram @Okayest_Cook And facebook.com/AnOkayestCook Video feed on YouTube.com/@OkayestCook Crew:  Chris Whonsetler Email: Chris@OkayestCook.com Web: ChrisWhonsetler.com Instagram: @FromFieldToTable & @WhonPhoto

There is a growing movement that contends that animals themselves may have legal rights.Tonight, our panel of outstanding guests will help us illuminate our relationship with animals, whether our pets, animals raised for food or those wild animals in our environment.YLR Host, Jeff Hayden, is joined by tonight's co-host, Dean Johnson, and Pets In Need Chief Executive Officer Laura Toller Gardner, Veterinary Specialist in Animal Welfare Dr. Barry Kipperman, and Brent Turner, The Real Activist. Questions for Jeff, Dean and their guests? Please call, toll-free, at (866) 798-8255.

There is a growing movement that contends that animals themselves may have legal rights.Tonight, our panel of outstanding guests will help us illuminate our relationship with animals, whether our pets, animals raised for food or those wild animals in our environment.YLR Host, Jeff Hayden, is joined by tonight's co-host, Dean Johnson, and Pets In Need Chief Executive Officer Laura Toller Gardner, Veterinary Specialist in Animal Welfare Dr. Barry Kipperman, and Brent Turner, The Real Activist. Questions for Jeff, Dean and their guests? Please call, toll-free, at (866) 798-8255.

Featuring tracks from a Mount Rushmore of Erik's most influential teachers, friends, bandmates, and mentors including Charlie Hunter, Ron Miles, Art Lande, Theo Bleckmann, Tony Mason, and Dean Johnson.

We are excited to celebrate our 300th episode of the Inspired Nonprofit Leadership with special guest Brandon Dean Johnson, CEO of Create Now, an LA-based nonprofit focused on empowering underserved youth through arts education. Brandon shares his journey from being unhoused to leading a successful nonprofit, drawing from his background in graphic design and fine arts. He discusses the importance of authentic leadership, the role of AI in nonprofit work, programmatic innovations, and the future vision for Create Now. Tune in for valuable insights on nonprofit leadership and sustainable fundraising. Episode Highlights Skills and Leadership Insights Fundraising and Relationship Building Programmatic Innovations at Create Now Future Vision and AI Integration Words of Wisdom Meet the Guest Brandon Dean Johnson is the CEO of Create Now, a Los Angeles-based nonprofit dedicated to empowering underserved youth through arts education. With a background in graphic design and fine arts from Elizabeth City State University, Brandon has leveraged his talents in both the entertainment industry and community outreach.   He has contributed to projects for major companies such as Disney, Warner Bros, and Netflix, including work on notable titles like Marvel Super Heroes: Black Panther.   As the founder of BigFooters LLC and the creative force behind Hoodlin Mania, Brandon continues to innovate in animation and digital media.   Committed to enriching lives, Brandon continues to lead Create Now into being a pivotal resource for young people, offering creative programs that foster their talents and aspirations.   Connect with Brandon: Createnow.org https://www.classy.org/campaign/peer-peer-create-now-a-new-era-of-change/c623336 Sponsored Resource Join the Inspired Nonprofit Leadership Newsletter for weekly tips and inspiration for leading your nonprofit! Access it here >> Be sure to subscribe to Inspired Nonprofit Leadership so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! Let us know the topics or questions you would like to hear about in a future episode. You can do that and follow us on LinkedIn. Connect with Sarah: On LinkedIn:>> On Facebook:>> Subscribe on YouTube:>>

As of day 16, President Trump has already signed 45 executive orders, many of which served to upend protections on which various people – most notably folks in the LGBTQ community -- have justifiably relied.Tonight, we want look to the LGBTQ community, what is being aimed at this community at the federal level, what can be done to resist, and what support might be available.YLR Host Jeff Hayden, and tonight's co-host, Dean Johnson, are joined by Adjunct Professor Jamal Anderson and Activist Brent Turner.Questions for tonight's guests? Please call (415) 841-4134 or (866) 798-8255.

YLR Host, Jeff Hayden, and tonight's Co-Host, Dean Johnson, are joined by guests Lisa Herendeen, LCSW, M.Ed. a private practice psychotherapist in Santa Cruz, who will help to understand where we fit into the relationship between a perceived Narcissist and a large portion of the American population. Questions for Jeff, Dean and their guests? Please call (415) 841-4134 or toll free, at (866) 798-8255.

Join us as we dive into the world of the Lost Soul Ultra, one of Canada's most challenging ultramarathons. In this episode, we revisit our enlightening conversation with Dean Johnson, the race director of the iconic race known for its grueling terrain and rich history. Learn about the unique challenges and stories that revolve around this prairie race, and how it became a qualifier for the prestigious Western States 100. Dean shares insights on what makes the Lost Soul Ultra a captivating adventure for runners and race enthusiasts alike. Whether you're an experienced runner or a curious listener, this episode offers a glimpse into the dedication and passion that fuel this extraordinary race community. Discover the spirit of challenge and camaraderie that defines the Lost Soul Ultra. Here is Dean... You can follow Lost Soul Ultra on Instagram here  https://www.instagram.com/lostsoulultra/ Save 5% on Kinesys Sunscreen by using this link https://www.kinesysactive.ca/?ref=gottarun Save 20% on Caffeine Bullet by using coupon code GOTTARUN https://caffeinebullet.com/GOTTARUN Save 10% on Air Relax by using our coupon code GOTTARUN https://www.airrelax.ca/?ref=GOTTARUN   If you enjoyed our show please leave a rating and review.  We would really appreciate it. Check out the Gotta Run Racing website here and use promo code GRRPODCAST for discounts - gottarunracing.com Check out our YouTube Channel here - https://youtube.com/@GottaRunRacing Check out GRR Facebook here: https://www.facebook.com/gottarunracing/ Check out GRR Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/gottarunracing/ Support us on Patreon here : https://www.patreon.com/gottarunracing  

KGMI's Dianna Hawryluk and Adam Smith talk about Totally Lost at the Upfront Theatre, Bugs in a Bowl at i.e. Gallery in Edison, the Jingle Bell Run in Bellingham, Christmas at Bellewood Farms, and Dean Johnson performing at the Wild Buffalo.

Much as we did four years ago, we've looked at elections viewing from perspecives ranging from allegations of interference from foreign nations or violations of campaign laws, to the effect divisions are having upon our democracy -- all important topics; but, those are discussions for another night.Also, as it was in 2020, all signs were showing that the election could eventually be decided in Pennsylvania. Then they called Pennsylvania, and with it the presidential election.And while all eyes are on who will become the 47th President of the United States. We have myriad federal, state and local races of interest, some clearly decided, others that may soon be determined, voting systems that might, and unnecessarily, delay the counting of the votes.All that may be so; but, there are bigger issues looming, such as: what do we do if a newly elected president trump suspends the constitution? How would we respond to mass deportations? What if there is a national abolition ban?And equally concerning under such a scenario is the absence of checks and balances; with the Republicans taking both houses of Congress, and a politically lopsided Supreme Court, it appears all checks and balances have been relegated to the annals of history. Tonight we make a status check. YLR Host, Jeff Hayden, and tonight's co-host Dean Johnson, are joined by civil rights activist Brent Turner and Daly City Mayor Juslyn Manalo who is currently the Senior Community Engagement Specialist/Impact Policy and…

In this episode we're talking to Dean Johnson, a young serial entrepreneur that went from making $1M off of Fortnite maps to making $7M running over 200+ Snapchat shows. As if that wasn't enough, he's now running Fixated, a talent agency that manages some of the biggest creators like Sketch and the Botez sisters. If you're a young entrepreneur looking to crush your 20's, then this is the episode for you. --

Esta semana, en Islas de Robinson, actualidad en clave de Americana a media luz, Suenan: GILLIAN WELCH & DAVE RAWLINGS - "WHAT WE HAD" ("WOODLAND", 2024) / THE CACTUS BLOSSOMS - "STATUES" ("EVERY TIME I THINK ABOUT YOU", 2024) / DEAN JOHNSON - "TRUE LOVE" ("NOTHING FOR ME, PLEASE", 2023) / BELLA WHITE - "I'LL FIND A WAY (TO CARRY IT ALL)" ("FIVE FOR SILVER", 2024) / SAM BURTON - "I GO TO SLEEP" ("DEAR DEPARTED", 2023) / ANDREW COMBS - "THE SEA IN ME" ("DREAM PICTURES", 2024) / SPENCER CULLUM - "COULD WE, CANVEY" (2023) / ANDY SHAUF - "DAYLIGHT DREAMING" ("NORM", 2023) / KATE BOLLINGER - "SWEET DEVIL" ("SONGS FROM A THOUSAND FRAMES OF MIND", 2024) / SAM EVIAN - "RUNAWAY" ("PLUNGE", 2024) / BONNY DOON (con WAXAHATCHEE) - "YOU CAN'T STAY THE SAME" ("LET THE MUSIC PLAY", 2023) / JENNIFER CASTLE - "LUCKY #8" ("CAMELOT", 2024) / HALEY HEYNDERICKX - "SEED OF A SEED" (2024) /Escuchar audio

Esta semana, en Islas de Robinson, seguimos "agostándonos" a latido lento. Canciones y noches que pesan tanto como las memorias por venir. Carretera sin fin. Suenan: FLECHA - "MAYBE YOU DON'T REMEMBER" ("REASONS TO BELIEVE", 2024) / CARDELINA - "SOMETIMES YOU BREAK INTO MY HEAD" ("WHAT WE HAD", 2021) / DEAN JOHNSON - "ANNABELLE GOODBYE" ("NOTHING FOR ME, PLEASE", 2023) / WALTER MARTIN - "EASTER" ("THE BEAR", 2022) / TINY RUINS - "DIVING & SOARING" ("CEREMONY", 2023) / ANNA TIVEL - "TWO TRUTHS" ("LIVING THING", 2024) / JEFFREY MARTIN - "THERE'S A TREASURE" ("THANK GOD WE LEFT THE GARDEN", 2023) / KASSI VALAZZA - "WELCOME SONG" ("KASSI VALAZZA KNOWS NOTHING", 2023) / MEG BAIRD - "SHIP CAPTAINS" ("FURLING", 2022) / JENNIFER CASTLE - "MOONBEAM OR RAY" ("MONARCH SEASON", 2020) / ITASCA - "UNDER GATES OF COBALT BLUE" ("IMITATION OF WAR", 2024) / MYRIAM GENDRON - "LOOK DOWN THAT LONESOME ROAD" ("MAYDAY", 2024) /Escuchar audio

The presidential election is a contest for the most powerful office on earth. It should be a competition between the best of the best; with the changes we've all gone through the past few weeks, can anyone say “the best of the best” truly describes what each party has nominated?What just happened? What is coming up next? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?Sitting in for YLR Host, Jeff Hayden, tonight's Guest Host, Dean Johnson, is joined by politcal writer Mark Simon, politcal activist Brent Turner, Bob Marks a former political consultant and John Flaherty, once Chief of Staff to Secretary of Transportation Norm Mineta.Questions for Dean and his guests? Please call, toll free, at (866) 798-8255.

STONE ALLIANCE STONE ALLIANCE Kent, N.Y., June 1975 & June 1976Vaya mulatto, King Tut, Duet (gp out)Steve Grossman (ts) Gene Perla (el-b,el-p) Don Alias (d,cga,bgo,perc) GEORGE COLEMAN AMSTERDAM AFTER DARK New York, December 29, 1978Amsterdam after dark, New arrival, Lo JoeGeorge Coleman (ts) Hilton Ruiz (p) Sam Jones (b) Billy Higgins (d) RON HORTON A PRAYER FOR ANDREW Brooklyn, NY, June 2 & July 15, 2016A prayer for Andrew (1), Home, Dusk (1)Ron Horton (tp,flhrn,comp) Marty Ehrlich (as-1,b-cl-1) John O'Gallagher (as) replaces Ehrlich, Marc Mommaas (ts) Frank Kimbrough (p) Dean Johnson (b) Tim Horner (d) Andrew Hill (comp) Continue reading Puro Jazz 21 de junio 2024 at PuroJazz.

STONE ALLIANCE STONE ALLIANCE Kent, N.Y., June 1975 & June 1976Vaya mulatto, King Tut, Duet (gp out)Steve Grossman (ts) Gene Perla (el-b,el-p) Don Alias (d,cga,bgo,perc) GEORGE COLEMAN AMSTERDAM AFTER DARK New York, December 29, 1978Amsterdam after dark, New arrival, Lo JoeGeorge Coleman (ts) Hilton Ruiz (p) Sam Jones (b) Billy Higgins (d) RON HORTON A PRAYER FOR ANDREW Brooklyn, NY, June 2 & July 15, 2016A prayer for Andrew (1), Home, Dusk (1)Ron Horton (tp,flhrn,comp) Marty Ehrlich (as-1,b-cl-1) John O'Gallagher (as) replaces Ehrlich, Marc Mommaas (ts) Frank Kimbrough (p) Dean Johnson (b) Tim Horner (d) Andrew Hill (comp) Continue reading Puro Jazz 21 de junio 2024 at PuroJazz.

Dean Johson joins Greg to outline an opportunity to restore the 10 Commandments to Alabama's Government buildings in light of the overturn of the 50 year old Lemon Test.

KGMI's Dianna Hawryluk and Adam Smith talk about the Bellingham Bells kicking off their season, the Farmers Day Parade in Lynden and the Youth PRIDE Parade in Bellingham, Willand Tech Auto celebrating 87 years in Ferndale, and Dean Johnson performing at the Blue Room.

It's another laughter-filled episode of Talking Catholic, as co-hosts Jen Mauro and Mike Walsh welcome a new guest to the show: Deacon Dean Johnson, who serves in Church of the Holy Family, Sewell.   First, Deacon Dean shares what he learned during his time in the diaconate program – both educationally and spiritually. “The more I got to know about the Church, the more I fell in love with her,” he says.   He goes on to share how the diaconate is a way of life – one full of joy, patience, listening and understanding – whether he's at the altar, teaching in a classroom or jamming on his guitar.   And of course, in-between the vocation talk, Mike and Jen throw some curveballs. Mike asks for some fashion advice, while Jen asks Deacon Dean to read aloud from his recent column in the Catholic Star Herald: https://catholicstarherald.org/a-call-to-diaconate-can-be-a-whisper-or-shout/ If you or someone you know is considering the diaconate, learn more at https://camdendeacon.org/ Listen to Talking Catholic everywhere podcasts can be found, at https://talking.catholicstarherald.org/talking-catholic, or catch us on Domestic Church Media radio (https://domesticchurchmedia.org) Sundays at 11 AM or Mondays at 4 PM.   Follow us on... Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TalkingCatholic Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/talkingcatholic X: https://twitter.com/talkingcatholic

Called Dean owner of Tailgate Foodie, one of our sponsors. They make amazing Rubs and seasonings right here in Wisconsin. Dean is an Iraq Veteran. They've seen huge growth since we had Dean on the show. Wanted to follow up and chat with Dean. Please check out Tailgate Foodie.   

It's all in good fun. Except when it's not. We plan to give you some guidance, so if you are experimenting in this area, you are not at risk for emotional and physical damage or even criminal prosecution.Want to learn some boundaries before the Folsom Street Fair? You've come to the right place.YLR Host Jeff Hayden and tonight's co-host, Emmy-nominated legal and political analyst Dean Johnson, are joined by Dr. Anna Randall, Dr. Richard Sprout and Susan Wright.As this is an encore broadcast, we are not accepting calls into the broadcast tonight. But we welcome your calls to support this station at (800) 525-9917. The only way this station can stay on the air, is listeners. Listeners just like you. To keep this station going, to keep our live stream available for yourself, to keep shows like Your Legal Rights on the air, please make your donation to KALW, today, at KALW.org. Thank you.Next week, we'll be back, live, with our Landlord-Tenant Broadcast.

Featuring a tight re-release of a 1980's Nina Simone joint; Michael Blake's brilliantly orchestrated 2022 album Dance of the Mystic Bliss; Colorado sax phenom Dom Lalli; Shabaka's most recent Impulse record; classic piano trio fare from Dean Johnson, Tony Mason, and Erik aka Decades; and modern balladeers Jefferson Hamerand Eamon O'leary aka The Murphy Beds.

Seattle-based singer-songwriter Dean Johnson talks about his debut album, Nothing For Me, Please.  The sparsely-produced beauty had been a long time coming, released on Dean's 50th birthday by Mama Bird Records. Join us to hear the story! www.deanjohnsongs.com   Craft Brewed Music® The music discovery app that streams music for serious listeners - now included free and forever "in" the Music Discovery App Pint Glass (downloaded via QR printed on glass). http://www.craftbrewedmusic.com   

Tonight we are going to talk about crime. This time, good news, as a local city has had a tremendous turnaround that offers hope for other cities.During the 1990s, the Bay Area City of East Palo Alto was overrun by crime, poverty, and drugs, having the highest per capita murder rate in the known world. Last year, the homicide rate was zero.Should we stop at celebrating; or, are there lessons learned that can benefit other locales?Joining YLR Host, Jeff Hayden, and tonight's co-host, Dean Johnson, is the Mayor of East Palo Alto, Antonio Lopez. Questions for Jeff, Dean and their guest? Please call, toll free, at (866) 798-8255.

A birthday episode kicking off with Steve Bernstein and the late great Henry Butler; a fresh new single from sonic indie darlings Spencer Zahn and Dawn Richards; the debut of Erik's new record: the piano trio Decades feat. Tony Mason and Dean Johnson; John Scofield's latest jam; the closing song from Todd Sickafoose's seminal work Bear Proof; Kwest and Hawkfather bringing us their smooth Colorado mountain sound; Eulipion Corps takes us to outer space on the latest release; and a beautiful Italian-expat sound from songstress Lucia Comnes.

The “Care Act” -- touted as both a new paradigm for mental health treatment and at least part of the solution to the problem of homelessness -- permits family members, first responders and unspecified others to ask the courts to create and enforce treatment plans for people who are thought to be mentally ill.How is care court different from conservatorship?Governor Newsom recently signed SB 43 which changes conservatorship laws – how will that affect conservatorship? and Care Court?Tonight, YLR Host Jeff Hayden, and tonight's co-host Dean Johnson, are joined by Emma, the parent to a reluctant consumer of the mental health system, and Tal Klement representing the Mental Health Unit of the San Francisco Public Defender's Office.Questions for Jeff, Dean and their guests? Please call us, toll free, at (866) 798-8255.On November 8, we revisit our discussion of Bankruptcy Law, and on November 15, we will look at Cryptocurrency after the trial of SBF.

We finally did a UFO episode, and it's our retelling of one of the most confounding and mysterious cases on record: The Socorro Saucer. This case has all the makings of a cognitive conundrum: a credible main witness (Lonnie Zamora), secondary witnesses, physical evidence, the Air Force classifying it as unknown, and a lack of convincing alternate explanations. This UFOlogical tale is told in parallel with the story of the Jacques Cousteau of UFOs (and channeler of ascended masters), the swaggiest researcher of them all, Ray Stanford… who also found dinosaurs in a NASA parking lot. Featuring an interview with journalist skeptic-believer D. Dean Johnson. To listen to the full episode, and gain access to our other mini-series such as Manclan and Trickle Down, you can subscribe for just five bucks a month at: http://www.patreon.com/QAnonAnonymous D. Dean Johnson: http://twitter.com/ddeanjohnson The Spectral Voyager theme composed by Nick Sena. Additional music by Pontus Berghe and Jake Rockatansky. Editing by Corey Klotz. QAA's website: http://qanonanonymous.com

It's all in good fun. Except when it's not. We plan to give you some guidance, so if you are experimenting in this area, you are not at risk for emotional and physical damage or even criminal prosecution.Want to learn some boundaries before the Folsom Street Fair? You've come to the right place.YLR Host Jeff Hayden and tonight's co-host, Emmy-nominated legal and political analyst Dean Johnson, are joined by Dr. Anna Randall, Dr. Richard Sprout and Susan Wright.Questions for Jeff and Dean's guests? Call (866) 798-8255. And please: keep the talk adult, and civil.

When it comes to real estate investing, we all know that time in the market is better than timing the market. No one knows this old adage better than Wesgroup Properties. Dean Johnson, Vice President of Development at Wesgroup, one of Western Canada's largest private developers, sits down with Matt & Adam to detail the company's proven approach to investing in Vancouver. We discuss the start of the Fall market, the ongoing impacts of interest rates and inflation, the top areas for investment in the Lower Mainland and the province, and the type of thinking required to make lasting moves in real estate. This is a master-class in investment strategy and community building, from the ground up. Get your notebook.Here is a SECURE LINK to donate to Jayden Lee's 100 Mile run for BC Children's Hospital. 

Every day, in California, people face criminal charges. At the time the case is initially charged, the prosecution designates the charge as an infraction, a misdemeanor, or a felony.Most offenses are carried out by the young – that is, when no one is looking toward the effects a conviction will have later in life.The law provides various means for clearing your criminal record, something many people pursue. Often years after the conviction was suffered.When do these changes restore someone's ability to resume a normal life, often years after sometimes minor offenses? When is such relief available? When is it effective? When is it less so?And, if you seek help for yourself or a loved one, where can someone turn for help?YLR Host Jeff Hayden and co-host, NBC legal and political commentator Dean Johnson, is Santa Clara County Superior Court Judge Eugene Hyman (retired), Redwood City attorney Cheri Wallace, and Mitri Hanania, Assistant Managing Attorney for the Private Defender Program of the San Mateo County Bar Association, Certified by the California Board of Legal Specialization, State Bar of California as a Specialist in Criminal Law. Questions for Jeff, Dean and their guests? Please call (866) 798-8255. Listeners seeking help for themselves or a loved one are especially encouraged to call.

Former President Trump faces prosecution in Georgia, under an indictment that differs than either the January 6th case pending in Washington D.C. or the documents case pending in a federal court in Florida in important ways. Among the differences are that at least for the present, it is pending in a state court, and there are myriad other indicted co-conspirators including former government officials and at least three attorneys for the then-president. Where is all this heading? What affect will this have on the upcoming presidential election?Joining tonight's host, emmy-nominated legal and political commentator Dean Johnson, is Professor Lawrence Douglas, the James J. Grosfeld Professor of Law, Jurisprudence and Social Thought at Amherst College. Questions for Dean and Professor Douglas? Please call, toll-free, at (866) 798-8255.

Bryce Johnson and his dad, Dean Johnson, unpack Joe Thomas' 10,363 straight snaps during his career...and how it relates to being consistent and committed as we serve others.This Week's Questions:Why is intentionality so important when it comes to being consistent in our dealings with others?What drives us to show up and serve other people in a committed way?How do we continue to be steadfast in the midst of a "losing season"?Visit our website to sign up for our free weekly email devotionals: www.unpackinit.comBecome a monthly donor or give a one-time gift to support UNPACKIN' it by checking out our Donation Page.Be sure to sign up to join an UNPACKIN' it Fantasy Football League.Visit the Fantasy Football Fellowship website for more information and to sign up to participate in this year's season: Fantasy Football FellowshipThe UNPACKIN' it Podcast is brought to you by Sugar Creek Coffee. Check out sugarcreekcoffee.com (use promo code UNPACK to save). Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Since May 2022, Congress has held three hearings looking into Unidentified Aerial Phenomena and the possibility of non-human intelligent life flying aircraft on Earth. In this episode, hear testimony from three Defense Department officials and three credible whistleblowers, whose testimony is often as contradictory as it is shocking. Please Support Congressional Dish – Quick Links Contribute monthly or a lump sum via Support Congressional Dish via (donations per episode) Send Zelle payments to: Donation@congressionaldish.com Send Venmo payments to: @Jennifer-Briney Send Cash App payments to: $CongressionalDish or Donation@congressionaldish.com Use your bank's online bill pay function to mail contributions to: Please make checks payable to Congressional Dish Thank you for supporting truly independent media! Background Sources Whistleblower Protections Clayton E. Wire. 2020. Ogborn Mihm LLP. Security Classifications Security Classification of Information, Volume 2. Principles for Classification of Information. Arvin S. Quist. Oak Ridge National Laboratory: 1993. UAP Background Brian Entin. June 6, 2023. NewsNation. Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal. June 5, 2023. The Debrief. May 16, 2021. 60 Minutes. Ralph Blumenthal. December 18, 2017. The New York Times. Helene Cooper et al. December 16, 2017. The New York Times. Independent Research and Development National Defense Industrial Association. SCIFs Derek Hawkins et al. April 26, 2023. The Washington Post. Kirkpatrick Response Letter D. Dean Johnson (@ddeanjohnson). Twitter. Audio Sources July 26, 2023 House Committee on Oversight and Accountability, Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs Witnesses: , Former Commanding Officer, United States Navy Ryan Graves, Executive Director, Americans for Safe Aerospace David Grusch, Former National Reconnaissance Office Representative, Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force, Department of Defense Clips timestamps reflect C-SPAN video 4:30 Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI): The National Defense Authorization Act of 2022 established the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office or AARO to conduct or to coordinate efforts across the Department of Defense and other federal agencies to detect, identify and investigate UAPs. However, AARO's budget remains classified, prohibiting meaningful oversight from Congress. 19:50 Rep. Robert Garcia (D-CA): We know the Senate is taking up an amendment to their defense authorization bill which will create a commission with broad declassification authority and we should all agree that that is an important step. 27:40 Ryan Graves: Excessive classification practices keep crucial information hidden. Since 2021, all UAP videos are classified as secret or above. This level of secrecy not only impedes our understanding, but fuels speculation and mistrust. 27:55 Ryan Graves: In 2014, I was an F-18 Foxtrot pilot in the Navy fighter attack Squadron 11, the Red Rippers, and I was stationed at NAS Oceana in Virginia Beach. After upgrades were made to our jet's radar systems, we began detecting unknown objects operating in our airspace. At first, we assumed they were radar errors. But soon we began to correlate the radar tracks with multiple onboard sensors, including infrared systems, and eventually through visual ID. During a training mission in Warning Area W-72, 10 miles off the coast of Virginia Beach. Two F/A-18F Super Hornets were split by a UAP. The object, described as a dark gray or a black cube inside of a clear sphere, came within 50 feet of the lead aircraft and was estimated to be five to 15 feet in diameter. The mission commander terminated the flight immediately and returned to base. Our squadron submitted a safety report, but there was no official acknowledgement of the incident and no further mechanism to report the sightings. Soon these encounters became so frequent that aircrew would discuss the risk of UAP as part of their regular pre-flight briefs. 29:00 Ryan Graves: Recognising the need for action and answers, I founded Americans for Safe Aerospace. The organization has since become a haven for UAP witnesses who were previously unspoken due to the absence of a safe intake process. More than 30 witnesses have come forward and almost 5000 Americans have joined us in the fight for transparency at safeaerospace.org 29:20 Ryan Graves: The majority of witnesses are commercial pilots at major airlines. Often, they are veterans with decades of flying experience. Pilots are reporting UAP at altitudes that appear above them at 40,000 feet potentially in low Earth orbit or in the gray zone below the Karman Line, making unexplainable maneuvers like right hand turns and retrograde orbits or J hooks. Sometimes these reports are reoccurring with numerous recent sightings north of y and in the North Atlantic. Other veterans are also coming forward to us regarding UAP encounters in our airspace and oceans. The most compelling involve observations of UAP by multiple witnesses and sensor systems. I believe these accounts are only scratching the surface and more will share their experiences once it is safe to do so. 31:30 David Grusch: I became a whistleblower through a PPD 19 urgent concern filing in May 2022 with the intelligence community Inspector General following concerning reports from multiple esteemed and credentialed current and former military and intelligence community individuals that the US government is operating with secrecy above congressional oversight with regards to UAPs. My testimony is based on information I've been given by individuals with a long standing track record of legitimacy and service to this country, many of whom also have shared compelling evidence in the form of photography, official documentation, and classified oral testimony to myself and my various colleagues. I have taken every step I can to corroborate this evidence over a period of four years while I was with the UAP Task Force and do my due diligence on the individual sharing it. Because of these steps. I believe strongly in the importance of bringing this information before you. 33:30 David Grusch: In 2019, the UAP Task Force director asked me to identify all Special Access Programs and Controlled Access Programs, also known as SAPS and CAPS. We needed to satisfy our congressionally mandated mission and we were direct report at the time to the [Deputy Secretary of Defense]. At the time, due to my extensive executive level intelligence support duties, I was cleared to literally all relevant compartments and in a position of extreme trust both in my military and civilian capacities. I was informed in the course of my official duties of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program to which I was denied access to those additional read-ons when I requested it. I made the decision based on the data I collected to report this information to my superiors and multiple Inspectors General and, in effect, becoming a whistleblower. 35:20 Cmdr. David Fravor: We were attached to carrier 11, stationed onboard USS Nimitz and began a two month workup cycle off the coast of California. On this day, we were scheduled for a two v two air-to-air training with the USS Princeton as our control. When we launched off Nimitz, my wingman was joining out, we were told that the training was going to be suspended and we're going to proceed with real world tasking. As we proceeded to the West, the air controller was counting down the range to an object that we were going to and we were unaware of what we're going to see when we arrived. There, the controller told us that these objects had been observed for over two weeks coming down from over 80,000 feet, rapidly descending to 20,000 feet, hanging out for hours and then going straight back up. For those who don't realize, above 80,000 feet is space. We arrived at the location at approximately 20,000 feet and the controller called the merge plot, which means that our radar blip was now in the same resolution cell as a contact. As we looked around, we noticed that we saw some whitewater off our right side. It's important to note the weather on this day was as close to perfect as you could ask for off the coast of San Diego: clear skies, light winds, calm seas, no white caps from waves. So the whitewater stood out in a large blue ocean. All four of us, because we were in an F/A-18F F, so we had pilots and WSO in the backseat, looked down and saw a white tic tac object with a longitudinal axis pointing north-south and moving very abruptly over the water, like a ping pong ball. There were no rotors, no rotor wash, or any sign of visible control surfaces like wings. As we started clockwise towards the object, my WSO I decided to go down and take a closer look with the other aircraft staying in high cover to observe both us and the tic tac. We proceeded around the circle about 90 degrees from the start of our descent, and the object suddenly shifted its longitudinal axis, aligned it with my aircraft and began to climb. We continued down another 270 degrees, and we went nose low to where the tic tac would have been. Our altitude at this point is about 15,000 feet and the tic tac was about 12,000. As we pulled nose-on to the object within about a half mile of it, it rapidly accelerated in front of us and disappeared. Our wingmen, roughly 8000 feet above us, lost contact also. We immediately turned back to see where the whitewater was at and it was gone also. So as you started to turn back towards the east the controller came up and said "Sir you're not going to believe this but that thing is that your cat point roughly 60 miles away in less than a minute." You can calculate the speed. We returned to Nimitz. We were taking off our gear, we were talking to one of my crews that was getting ready to launch, we mentioned it to them and they went out and luckily got the video that you see, that 90 second video. What you don't see is the radar tape that was never released, and we don't know where it's at. 37:55 Cmdr. David Fravor: What is shocking to us is that the incident was never investigated. None of my crew ever questioned and tapes were never taken and after a couple days it turned into a great story with friends. It wasn't until 2009 until J. Stratton had contacted me to investigate. Unbeknownst to all, he was part of the AATIP program at the Pentagon led by Lue Elizondo. There was an unofficial official report that came out it's now in the internet. Years later, I was contacted by the other pilot Alex Dietrich and asked if I'd been contacted and I said "No, but I'm willing to talk." I was contacted by Mr. Elizondo, and we talked for a short period of time, he said we'd be in contact. A few weeks after that I was made aware that Lue had left the Pentagon in protest and joined forces with Tom DeLonge and Chris Mellon, Steve Justice, and others to form To the Stars Academy, an organization that pressed the issue with leading industry experts and US government officials. They worked with Leslie Kean, who is present today, Ralph Blumenthal, and Helene Cooper to publish the articles in the New York Times in 2017. It removed the stigma on the topic of UFOs, which is why we're here today. Those articles opened the door for the government and public that cannot be closed. It has led to an interest from our elected officials, who are not focused on Little Green Men, but figuring out where these craft are, where they are from, the technology they possess, how do they operate. It also led to the Whistleblower Protection Act in the NDAA. 39:45 Cmdr. David Fravor: In closing, I would like to say that the tic tac object we engaged in 2004 was far superior to anything that we had on time, have today, or are looking to develop in the next 10 years. If we, in fact, have programs that possess this technology and needs to have oversight from those people, that the citizens of this great country elected in office to represent what is best for the United States and best for the citizens. I thank you for your time. 40:20 Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI): Are your pilots, or pilots that you interact with as part of your organization, do you feel adequately trained and briefed on how to handle encounters with UAPs? Ryan Graves: No. Right now, military witnesses to UAP have limited options for reporting UAP. But more more concerning is that the commercial aviation sector has not adapted to the lessons that the military has implemented. The military and Department of Defense have stated that UAP represent a critical aviation safety risk. We have not seen that same language being used in the commercial markets, they are not acknowledging this. 41:05 Ryan Graves: Right now we need a system where pilots can report without fear of losing their jobs. There's a fear that the stigma associated with this topic is going to lead to professional repercussions either through management or perhaps through their yearly physical check. So having a secure system, reducing the stigma, and making this information available through the public is going to reduce the concerns that aircrew have. 41:30 Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI): Can you just give me a little idea the degree to which reports in the past are not made public right now? Ryan Graves: Well, I don't think there has been a proper reporting system to gather those reports and thus not report them. So to answer your question, I think there is a dearth of data due to the fact that the reporting has been limited up to this time. 41:45 Ryan Graves: There's certainly some national security concerns when we use our advanced sensors and our tactical jets to be able to identify these objects. However, there's no reason that the objects themselves would be classified. I would be curious to see how the security classification guideline actually spells out the different nuances of how this topic is classified from the perspective of UAP, not national security. 43:00 Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI): Mr. Fravor, the tic tac incident that you were engaged [in] occurred in 2004. What kind of reporting took place after that incident? Ryan Graves: None. We had a standard debrief where the back-seaters went down to our carrier intel center and briefed what had happened, and that was it. No one else talked to us. And I was in the top 20 in the battle group, no one came that the Captain was aware, the of Admiral was aware, nothing was done. Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI): Did your commanding officers provide any sort of justification? Ryan Graves: No, because I was the commanding officer of the quadron. So no. Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI): Was this incident the only UAP event that you encountered while you were a pilot? Ryan Graves: Yes, it was. 43:50 Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI): Do you believe UAPs pose a potential threat to our national security? Ryan Graves: Yes, and here's why: the technology that we faced was far superior than anything that we had, and you could put that anywhere. If you had one, you captured one, you reverse engineered it, you got it to work, you're talking something that can go into space, go someplace, dropped down in a matter of seconds, do whatever it wants and leave. And there's nothing we can do about it. Nothing. 44:20 Ryan Graves: I would also like to add from a commercial aviation and military aviation perspective, we deal with uncertainty in our operating space as a matter of our professional actions. Identifying friend from foe is very important to us. And so when we have identified targets and we continue to ignore those due to a stigma or fear of what it could be, that's an opening that our adversaries can take advantage of. 44:55 Ryan Graves: There needs to be a location where this information is centralized for processing and there needs to be a two-way communication loop so the operators on the front end have feedback and can get best practices on how to process information, what to do, and to ensure that their reporting is being listened to. Right now there is not a lot of back and forth. 46:25 Ryan Graves: When we were first experiencing these objects off the eastern seaboard in the 2014 to 2015 time period, anyone that had upgraded their radar systems were seeing these objects. So there was a large number of my colleagues that were detecting these objects off the eastern seaboard. They were further correlating that information with the other onboard sensors. And many of them also had their own eyesightings, as well, of these objects. Now, that was our personal, firsthand experience at the time. Since then, as I've engaged this topic, others have reached out to me to share their experiences both on the military side as well as the commercial aviation side. On the military aviation side, veterans that have recently got out have shared their stories and have expressed how the objects we are seeing in 2014 and 2015 continued all the way to 2019, 2020, and beyond. And so it became a generational issue for naval aviators on the Eastern Seaboard. This was something we were briefing to new students. This is something that was included in the notice to airmen to ensure that there was no accidents. And now with commercial aviators, they are reaching out because they're having somewhat similar experiences as our military brothers and sisters, but they do not have any reporting system that they can send this to. 47:55 Cmdr. David Fravor: It's actually, it's a travesty that we don't have a system to correlate this and actually investigate. You know, so if you took the east coast, there's coastal radars out there that monitor our air defense identification zone. Out to 200 miles, they can track these. So when you see them, they could actually go and pull that data and get maneuvering. And instead of just having the airplanes, there's other data sources out there. And I've talked to other government officials on this. You need a centrally located repository that these reports go to. So if you just stuck it in DOD, you wouldn't get anything out of the Intelligence Committee because they have a tendency not to talk. But if you had a central location where these reports are coming in, not just military, but also commercial aviation, because there's a lot of that going on, especially if you talk to anyone that flies from here to Hawaii, over the Pacific they see odd lights. So I think you need to develop something that allows you a central point to collect the data in order to investigate. 51:20 Rep. Robert Garcia (D-CA): Mr. Grusch, finally, do you believe that our government is in possession of UAPs? David Grusch: Absolutely, based on interviewing over 40 witnesses over four years. Rep. Robert Garcia (D-CA): And where? David Grusch: I know the exact locations and those locations were provided to the Inspector General, and some of which to the intelligence committees, I actually had the people with the firsthand knowledge provide a protected disclosure to the Inspector General 52:15 Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Mr. Graves. Again, I'd like to know, how do you know that these were not our aircraft? Ryan Graves: Some of the behaviors that we saw in a working area. We would see these objects being at 0.0 Mach, that's zero airspeed over certain pieces of the ground. So what that means, just like a river, if you throw a bobber in, it's gonna float downstream. These objects were staying completely stationary in category four hurricane winds. The same objects would then accelerate to supersonic speeds 1.1-1.2 Mach, and they would do so in very erratic and quick behaviors that we don't -- I don't -- have an explanation for. 55:50 Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Mr. Fravor, do you believe that you witnessed an additional object under the water in relation to your encounter? Cmdr. David Fravor: I will say we did not see an object. There was something there to cause the whitewater and when we turned around, it was gone. So there was something there that obviously moved. Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Okay, it was not the same object, though, that you were looking at, correct? Cmdr. David Fravor: No, we actually joked that the tic tac was communicating with something when we came back, because the whitewater disappeared. 56:15 Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): We were, in another instance, told about the capabilities of jamming when there were some people chasing some of these objects. Did you experience any of that jamming, or interrupting your radar or weapon system? Cmdr. David Fravor: My crew that launched, after we landed, experienced significant jamming to the APG 73 radar, which was what we had on board, which is a mechanically scan, very high end system, prior to APG 79. And yes, it did pretty much everything you could do range, velocity, aspect, and then it hit the lock and the targeting pod is passive. That's when we're able to get the video on. Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): I'm about to run out of time, but are you aware of any of our enemies that have that capability? Cmdr. David Fravor: No, no. 57:40 Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD): You've identified these as taking place on the East Coast. Is it just on the East Coast where these encounters have been reported? Ryan Graves: No. Since the events initially occurred, I've learned that the objects have been detected, essentially where all Navy operations are being conducted across the world. And that's from the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office reporting. 58:50 Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD): Are there common characteristics to the UAPs that have been sighted by different pilots? And can you describe what the convergence of descriptions is? Ryan Graves: Certainly. We were primarily seeing dark gray or black cubes inside of a clear sphere. Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD): I'm sorry, dark gray or black cubes? Ryan Graves: Yes, inside of a clear sphere where the apex or tips of the cube were touching the inside of that sphere. And that was primarily what was being reported when we were able to gain a visual tally of these objects. That occurred over almost eight years, and as far as I know, is still occurring. 59:45 Ryan Graves: I think we need both transparency and the reporting. We have the reporting, but we need to make sure that information can be propagated to commercial aviation as well as the rest of the populace. 1:05:00 Ryan Graves: In the 2003 timeframe, a large group of Boeing contractors were operating near one of the launch facilities at Vandenberg Air Force Base when they observed a very large, 100-yard-sided red square approach the base from the ocean and hover at low altitude over one of the launch facilities. This object remained for about 45 seconds or so before darting off over the mountains. There was a similar event within 24 hours later in the evening. This was a morning event, I believe, 8:45 in the morning. Later in the evening, post sunset, there were reports of other sightings on base including some aggressive behaviors. These objects were approaching some of the security guards at rapid speeds before darting off, and this is information that was received through one of the witnesses that have approached me at Americans for Safe Aerospace. 1:06:15 Ryan Graves: I have not seen what they've described. This object was estimated to be almost the size of a football field, and I have not seen anything personally that large. 1:07:05 Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL): With the FAA, to your understanding, pilots that are seeing this, commercial airline pilots, are they receiving cease and desist letters from corporations for coming forward with information in regards to safety for potential air airline passengers? Ryan Graves: I have been made privy to conversations with commercial aviators who have received cease and desist orders. Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL): So the American public should know that corporations are putting their own reputations ahead of the safety of the American people. Would you agree with that statement? Ryan Graves: It appears so. 1:08:15 Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-FL): So what about G forces? Let's talk about G forces in those vehicles. Could a human survive those G forces with known technology today? Cmdr. David Fravor: No, not for the acceleration rates that we observed. 1:08:45 Cmdr. David Fravor: So we got within a half mile of the tic tac, which people say that's pretty far, but in airplanes that's actually relatively close. Now it was perfectly white, smooth, no windows, although when we did take the original FLIR video that is out there, when you put it on a big screen it actually had two little objects that came out of the bottom of it. But other than that, no windows, no seams, no nothing. 1:09:05 Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-FL): Mr. Grusch, as a result of your previous government work have you met with people with direct knowledge or have direct knowledge yourself of non-human origin craft? David Grusch: Yes, I personally interviewed those individuals. 1:09:40 Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-FL): Do you have knowledge or do you have reason to believe that there are programs in the advanced tech space that are unsanctioned? David Grusch: Yes, I do. Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-FL): Okay. And when you say that they're above congressional oversight, what do you mean? David Grusch: Complicated question. So there's some, I would call it abuse here. So congressional oversight of conventional Special Special Access Programs, and I'll use Title X, so DOD, as an example. So 10 US Code section 119 discusses congressional oversight of SAPS, discusses the Deputy Secretary of Defense's ability to waive congressional reporting. However, the Gang of Eight is at least supposed to be notified if a waived or waived bigoted unacknowledged SAP is created. That's Public Law. Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-FL): I don't want to cut you off, but how does a program like that get funded? David Grusch: I will give you generalities. I can get very specific in a closed session, but misappropriation of funds. Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-FL): Does that mean that there is money in the budget that is set to go to a program but it doesn't and it goes to something else? David Grusch: Yes, have specific knowledge of that. Yep. Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-FL): Do you think US corporations are overcharging for certain tech they're selling to the US government and that additional money is going to programs? David Grusch: Correct, through something called IRAD. 1:12:45 Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-VA): Mr. Grusch, in your sworn testimony you state that the United States government has retrieved supposedly extraterrestrial spacecraft and other UAP related artifacts. You go so far as to state that the US is in possession of "non human spacecraft" and that some of these artifacts have circulated with defense contractors. Several other former military and intelligence officials have come forward with similar allegations albeit in non-public setting. However, Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, the Director of AARO, previously testified before Congress that there has been and I quote, "no credible evidence" thus far of extraterrestrial act activity or "off world technology" brought to the attention of the office. To your knowledge, is that statement correct? David Grusch: It's not accurate. I believe Dr. Kirkpatrick mentioned he had about 30 individuals that have come to AARO thus far. A few of those individuals have also come to AARO that I also interviewed and I know what they provided Dr. Kirkpatrick and their team. I was able to evaluate -- Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-VA): Okay, I need to go on. David Grusch: Sure. 1:21:25 Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Has the US government become aware of actual evidence of extraterrestrial or otherwise unexplained forms of intelligence? And if so, when do you think this first occurred? David Grusch: I like to use the term non-human, I don't like to denote origin, it keeps the aperture open scientifically. Certainly, like I've just discussed publicly, previously, the 1930s. 1:21:45 Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Okay, can you give me the names and titles of the people with direct, first-hand knowledge and access to some of these crash retrieval programs and maybe which facilities, military bases that the recovered material would be in? And I know a lot of Congress talked about, we're gonna go to area 51. And, you know, there's nothing there anymore anyway, it's just you know, we move like a glacier. And as soon as we announce it, I'm sure the moving vans would pull up, but please. David Grusch: I can't discuss that publicly. But I did provide that information both to the Intel committees and the Inspector General. Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): And we could get that in the SCIF, if we were allowed to get in a SCIF with you? Would that be probably what you would think? David Grusch: Sure, if you had the appropriate accesses, yeah. 1:22:30 Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): What Special Access Programs cover this information? And how is it possible that they have evaded oversight for so long? David Grusch: I do know the names, once again, I can't discuss that publicly. And how they've evaded oversight in a closed setting I could tell you this specific tradecraft used. Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Alright. 1:22:50 Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): When did you think those programs began and who authorized them? David Grusch: I do know a lot of that information, but that's something I can't discuss publicly because of sensitivities Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Alright. 1:24:05 Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Title 10 and title 50 authorization, they seem to say they're inefficient. So who gets to decide this, in your opinion, in the past? David Grusch: It's a group of career senior executive officials. Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Okay. Are they government officials? David Grusch: Both in and out of government and that's about as far I'll go there. Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Well, that leads to my next question, which private corporations are directly involved in this program? How much taxpayer money has been invested in these programs? David Grusch: Yeah, I don't know the specific metrics towards the end of your question. The specific corporations I did provide to the committees in specific divisions, and I spent 11 and a half hours with both Intel committees. 1:25:30 Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Has there been an active US government disinformation campaign to deny the existence of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena? And if so, why? David Grusch: I can't go beyond what I've already exposed publicly about that. Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Okay, I've been told to ask you what that is and how to get it in the record. Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL): What have you stated publicly in your interviews, for the Congressional Record? David Grusch: If you reference my NewsNation interview, I talk about a multi-decade campaign to disenfranchise public interest basically. 1:28:00 Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY): When it comes to notification that you had mentioned about IRAD programs, we have seen defense contractors abuse their contracts before through this committee. I have seen it personally, and I have also seen the notification requirements to Congress abused. I am wondering, one of the loopholes that we see in the law is that there is, at least from my vantage point, depending on what we're seeing, is that there are no actual definitions or requirements for notification, are there? What methods of notification did you observe? When they say they notified Congress, how did they do that? Do you have insight into that? David Grusch: For certain IRAD activities....I can only think of ones conventional in nature. Sometimes they flow through certain out of say SAP programs that have cognisant authority over the Air Force or something. And those are congressionally reported compartments, but IRAD is literally internal to the contractor. So as long as it's money, either profits, private investment, etc, they can do whatever they want. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY): To put a finer point on it, when there is a requirement for any agency or company to notify Congress, do they contact the chairman of a committee, do they get them on the phone specifically, is this through an email to hypothetically a dead email box? David Grusch: A lot of it comes through what they call the PPR, Periodic Program Review process. If it's a SAP or Controlled Access Program equity, and then those go to the specific committees. 1:30:40 Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY): For the record, if you were me, where would you look? Titles, programs, departments, regions? If you could just name anything. And I put that as an open question to the three of you. David Grusch: I'd be happy to give you that in a closed environment. I can tell you specifically. 1:35:40 Cmdr. David Fravor: Things are over-classified. I know for a fact the video or the pictures that came out in the 2020 report that had the stuff off the east coast, they were taken with an iPhone, off the east coast. A buddy of mine was one of the senior people there and he said they originally classified a TSS CI, and my question to him was what's TSS CI about these? They're an iPhone, right, literally off the vacates, that's not TSS CI. So they're over classified, and as soon as they do that, they go into the vault, and then you all have to look for them. 1:37:20 Rep. Eric Burlison (R-MO): Has any of the activity been aggressive, been hostile in your reports? David Grusch: I know of multiple colleagues of mine that got physically injured. Rep. Eric Burlison (R-MO): By UAPs, or by people within the federal government? So there has been activity by alien or non-human technology and or beings that has caused harm to humans? David Grusch: I can't get into the specifics in an open environment, but at least the activity that I personally witnessed, and I have to be very careful here, because they tell you never to acknowledge tradecraft, right. So what I personally witnessed, myself and my wife, was very disturbing. 1:38:20 Rep. Eric Burlison (R-MO): You've said that the US has intact spacecraft. You said that the government has alien bodies or alien species. Have you seen the spacecraft? David Grusch: I have to be careful to describe what I've seen firsthand and not in this environment. But I could answer that question behind closed doors. Rep. Eric Burlison (R-MO): Have you seen any of the bodies? David Grusch: That's something I've not witnessed myself. 1:40:45 Rep. Eric Burlison (R-MO): These aircraft, have they been identified that they are being produced by domestic military contractors? Is there any evidence that that's what's being recovered? David Grusch: Not to my knowledge. Plus the recoveries predate a lot of our advanced programs. 1:48:05 David Grusch: I've actually never seen anything personal, believe it or not. 1:51:00 Rep. Nancy Mace (R-SC): If you believe we have crashed craft, stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft? David Grusch: As I've stated publicly already in my NewsNation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries. 1:51:15 Rep. Nancy Mace (R-SC): Were they human or non human biologics? David Grusch: Non human and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program I talked to that are currently still on the program. Rep. Nancy Mace (R-SC): And was this documentary evidence video, photos, eyewitness like how would that be determined? David Grusch: The specific documentation, I would have to talk to you in a SCIF about that. 1:53:10 Rep. Nick Langworthy (R-NY): Commander Fravor, we've all seen the floating tic tac video that you engage with on November 14, 2004. Can you briefly talk about why you were off the coast of San Diego that day? Cmdr. David Fravor: Yeah, we were at a work up with all the battle groups. So we integrate the ships with the carrier, the airway with the carrier and we start working. So we were doing an air-to-air defense to hone not only our skills, but those of the USS Princeton, and when they had been tracking him for two weeks. The problem was, there were never manned aircraft airborne when they were tracking them. And this was the first day and unfortunately, we were the ones airborne and went and saw it. Rep. Nick Langworthy (R-NY): Do you remember the weather that day? It was a cloudy or windy or anything out of the ordinary on the Pacific coast. Cmdr. David Fravor: If you're familiar with San Diego, it was a perfect day. Light winds, no whitecaps, clear skies, not a cloud. For flying, it was the best. Rep. Nick Langworthy (R-NY): Now, is it true that you saw, in your words, a 40 foot flying tic tac shaped object? Cmdr. David Fravor: That's correct. Or for some people that can't know what a Tic Tac is, it's a giant flying propane tank. Rep. Nick Langworthy (R-NY): Did this object come up on radar or interfere with your radar or the USS Princeton? Cmdr. David Fravor: The Princeton tracked it, the Nimitz tracked it, the E2 tracked it. We never saw it on our radars, our fire control radars never picked it up. The other airplane that took the video did get it on a radar as soon as it tried to lock in to jam the radar, spit the lock and he's rapidly switched over to the targeting pod which you can do in the F/A 18 Rep. Nick Langworthy (R-NY): From what you saw that day and what you've seen on video. Did you see any source of propulsion from the flying object including on any potential thermal scans from your aircraft? Cmdr. David Fravor: No, there is none. There is no IR plume coming out. And Chad who took the video went through all the EO, which is black and white TV and the IR modes, and there's no visible signs of reflection. It's just sitting in space at 20,000 feet. Rep. Nick Langworthy (R-NY): In your career. Have you ever seen a propulsion system that creates no thermal exhaust? Cmdr. David Fravor: No. Rep. Nick Langworthy (R-NY): Can you describe how the aircraft maneuvered? Cmdr. David Fravor: Abruptly, very determinant. It knew exactly what it was doing. It was aware of our presence. And it had acceleration rates, I mean, it went from zero to matching our speed and no time at all. Rep. Nick Langworthy (R-NY): Now if the fastest plane on Earth was trained to do these maneuvers that you saw, would it be capable of doing that? Cmdr. David Fravor: No, not even close Rep. Nick Langworthy (R-NY): Just to confirm, this object had no wings, correct? Cmdr. David Fravor: No wings. Rep. Nick Langworthy (R-NY): Now the aircraft that you were flying, was it armed? Cmdr. David Fravor: No, never felt threatened at all. Rep. Nick Langworthy (R-NY): If the aircraft was armed, do you believe that your aircraft or any aircraft in possession of the United States could have shot the tic tac down? Cmdr. David Fravor: I'd say no. Just on the performance, it would have just left in a split second. 1:58:10 Rep. Andy Ogles (R-TN): Is there any indication that these UAPs could be essentially collecting reconnaissance information? Mr. Graves? Ryan Graves: Yes. Rep. Andy Ogles (R-TN): Mr. Grusch? David Grusch: Fair assessment. Rep. Andy Ogles (R-TN): Mr. Fravor? Cmdr. David Fravor: Very possible. 1:59:05 Rep. Andy Ogles (R-TN): Mr. Graves and Fravor, in the event that your encounters had become hostile, would you have had the capability to defend yourself, your crew, your aircraft? Ryan Graves: Absolutely not. Cmdr. David Fravor: No. 2:00:55 Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): I might have asked this before, but I want to make sure. Do you have any personal knowledge of someone who's possibly been injured working on legacy UAP reverse engineering? David Grusch: Yes. Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Okay. How were they injured? Was it something like a radioactive type situation or something we didn't understand? I've heard people talk about Havana syndrome type incidences. What what was your recollection of that? David Grusch: I can't get into specifics, but you could imagine assessing an unknown unknown, there's a lot of potentialities you can't fully prepare for. 2:02:10 Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Are you aware of any individuals that are participating in reverse engineering programs for non terrestrial craft? David Grusch: Personally, yes. Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Do you know any that would be willing to testify if there were protections for them? David Grusch: Certainly closed door, and assurances that breaking their NDA, they're not going to get administratively punished. 2:03:45 Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL): Referring to your news nation interview, you had referenced specific treaties between governments. Article III of the nuclear arms treaty with Russia identifies UAPs. It specifically mentions them. To your knowledge. Are there safety measures in place with foreign governments or other superpowers to avoid an escalatory situation in the event that a UAP malevolent event occurs? David Grusch: Yeah, you're referring to an actual public treaty in the UN register. It's funny you mentioned that, the agreement on measures to reduce the risk of outbreak of a nuclear war signed in 1971, unclassified treaty publicly available. And if you cite the George Washington University national security archives, you will find the declassified, in 2013, specific provisions in this specific Red Line Flass message traffic with the specific codes pursuant to Article Three and also situation two, which is in the the previously classified NSA archive. What I would recommend and I tried to get access, but I got a wall of silence at the White House, was the specific incidents when those message traffic was used, I think some scholarship on that would open the door to a further investigation using those publicly available information. 2:05:20 David Grusch: I have concerns, based on the interviews I conducted under my official duties, of potential violations of the Federal Acquisition Regulations, the FAR. 2:06:10 Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD): What was your general attitude or perspective on the UFO discussion before that happened? Cmdr. David Fravor: I never felt that we were alone with all the planets out there. But I wasn't a UFO person. I wasn't, I wasn't watching History Channel and MUFON and all that. Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD): And have you had any experiences or encounters since that happened? Cmdr. David Fravor: No. Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD): And so, have you formed any general conclusions about what you think you experienced then? Cmdr. David Fravor: Yes, I think what we experienced was, like I said, well beyond the material science and the capabilities that we had at the time, that we have currently, or that we're going to have in the next 10 to 20 years. 2:06:55 Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD): You've been able to answer in great detail on certain questions, and then other things you say you're not able to respond to. Can you just explain where you're drawing the line? What's the basis for that? David Grusch: Yeah, based on my DOPSR security review and what they've determined that is unclassified. Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD): I see, so you're answering any questions that just call upon your knowledge of unclassified questions, but anything that relates to classified matters you're not commenting on in this context? David Grusch: In an open session, but happy to participate in a closed session at the right level. 2:08:15 Ryan Graves: Certainly I think the most vivid sighting of that would have been near mid air that we had at the entrance to our working area. One of these objects was completely stationary at the exact entrance to our working areas, not only geographically but also at altitude. So it was right where all the jets are going, essentially, on the Eastern Seaboard. The two aircraft flew within about 50 feet of the object and that was a very close visual sighting. Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD): And you were in one of the aircraft. Ryan Graves: I was not. I was there when the pilot landed. He canceled the mission after. I was there. He was in the ready room with all his gear on with his mouth open. And I asked him what the problem was and he said he almost hit one of those darn things. Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD): He said he was 50 feet away from it? Ryan Graves: Yes, sir. Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD): And his description of the object was consistent with the description you gave us before? Ryan Graves: A dark gray or black cube inside of a clear sphere. Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD): Inside of a clear sphere. With no self evident propulsion system. Ryan Graves:: No wings, no IR energy coming off of the vehicle, nothing tethering it to the ground. And that was primarily what we're experiencing out there. April 19, 2023 Senate Committee on Armed Services Witnesses: , Director, All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office Clips 2:00:50 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick: The AARO team of more than three dozen experts is organized around four functional areas: operations, scientific research, integrated analysis, and strategic communications. 2:01:25 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick: Consistent with legislative direction, AARO is also carefully reviewing and researching the US government's UAP-related historical record. 2:02:05 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick: AARO is the culmination of decades of DOD, intelligence community, and congressionally directed efforts to successfully resolve UAP encountered first and foremost by US military personnel, specifically navy and air force pilots. 2:03:15 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick: However, it would be naive to believe that the resolution of all UAP can be solely accomplished by the DOD and IC alone. We will need to prioritize collection and leverage authorities for monitoring all domains within the continental United States. AARO's ultimate success will require partnerships with the inner agency, industry partners, academia and the scientific community, as well as the public. 2:04:15 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick: I want to underscore today that only a very small percentage of UAP reports display signatures that could reasonably be described as anomalous. The majority of unidentified objects reported to AARO demonstrate mundane characteristics of balloons, unmanned aerial systems, clutter, natural phenomena, or other readily explainable sources. While a large number of cases in our holdings remain technically unresolved, this is primarily due to a lack of data associated with those cases. Without sufficient data, we are unable to reach defendable conclusions that meet the high scientific standards we set for resolution, and I will not close a case that I cannot defend the conclusions of. 2:06:00 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick: AARO is a member of the department's support to the administration's Tiger Team effort to deal with stratospheric objects such as the PRC high altitude balloon. When previously unknown objects are successfully identified, it is AARO's role to quickly and efficiently hand off such readily explainable objects to the intelligence, law enforcement, or operational safety communities for further analysis and appropriate action. In other words, AARO's mission is to turn UAP into SEP, Somebody Else's Problem. 2:07:30 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick: I should also state clearly for the record that in our research, AARO has found no credible evidence thus far of extraterrestrial activity, offworld technology, or objects that defy the known laws of physics. In the event sufficient scientific data were ever obtained that a UAP encountered can only be explained by extraterrestrial origin, we are committed to working with our interagency partners at NASA to appropriately inform [the] U.S. government's leadership of its findings. For those few cases that have leaked to the public previously and subsequently commented on by the US government, I encourage those who hold alternative theories or views to submit your research to credible peer reviewed scientific journals. AARO is working very hard to do the same. That is how science works, not by blog or social media. 2:13:20 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick: How are we going to get more data? We are working with the joint staff to issue guidance to all the services and commands that will then establish what are the reporting requirements, the timeliness, and all of the data that is required to be delivered to us and retained from all of the associated sensors. That historically hasn't been the case and it's been happenstance that data has been collected. 2:17:20 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick: As of this week we are tracking over a total of 650 cases. 2:17:45 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick: Let me walk everyone through what our analytic process looks like. We have essentially a five step process. We get our cases in with all the data, we create a case for that event. My team does a preliminary scrub of all of those cases as they come in, just to sort out, do we have any information that says this is in one of those likely categories? It's likely a balloon, it's likely a bird, it's likely some other object, or we don't know. Then we prioritize those based off of where they are. Are they attached to a national security area? Does it show some anomalous phenomenology that is of interest? If it's just a spherical thing that's floating around with the wind and it has no payload on it, that's going to be less important than something that has a payload on it, which will be less important than something that's maneuvering. So there's sort of a hierarchy of just binning the priorities, because we can't do all of them at once. Once we do that and we prioritize them, we take that package of data in that case and I have set up two teams, think of this as a Red Team Blue Team, or competitive analysis. I have an intelligence community team made up of intelligence analysts and I have an S&T team made up of scientists and engineers, and the people that actually build a lot of these sensors are physicists, because you know, if you're a physicist, you can do anything. But they're not associated with the intel community, they're not intel officers. So they they look at this through the lens of the sensor, of what the data says. We give that package to both teams. The intelligence community is going to look at it through the lens of the intelligence record, and what they assess, and their intel tradecraft, which they have very specific rules and regulations on how they do that. The scientific community, the technical community is going to look at it through the lens of "What is the data telling me? What is the sensor doing? What would I expect a sensor response to be?" and back that out. Those two groups give us their answers. We then adjudicate. If they agree, then I am more likely to close that case, if they agree on what it is. If they disagree, we will have an adjudication. We'll bring them together, we'll take a look at the differences, we'll adjudicate. Why do you say one thing and you say another? We will then come to a case recommendation that will get written up by my team. That then goes to a Senior Technical Advisory Group, which is outside of all of those people, made up of senior technical folks and intel analysts and operators retired out of the community. And they essentially peer review what that case recommendation is. They write their recommendations, that comes back to me, I review it, we make a determination, and I'll sign off one way or the other, and then that will go out as the case determination. Once we have an approved web portal to hang the unclassified stuff, we will downgrade and declassify things and put it out there. In the meantime, we're putting a lot of these on our classified web portal where we can then collaborate with the rest of the community so they can see what's going on. In a nutshell, that is the process. 2:27:10 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick: There are emerging capabilities out there that in many instances, Russia and China, China in particular, are on par or ahead of us in some areas. So previously, I used to be the Defense Department's intelligence officer for science and technical intelligence. That was our job to look for, what does all that look like? And then my last several years of course, in Space Command, doing space. The adversary is not waiting. They are advancing and they're advancing quickly. If I were to put on some of my old hats, I would tell you, they are less risk averse at technical advancement than we are. They are just willing to try things and see if it works. Are there capabilities that could be employed against us in both an ISR and a weapons fashion? Absolutely. Do I have evidence that they're doing it in these cases? No, but I have concerning indicators. 2:43:45 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick: So the vision is, at one point, at some point in the future, you should not need an AARO. If I'm successful in what I'm doing, we should be able to normalize everything that we're doing into existing processes, functions, agencies and organizations, and make that part of their mission and their role. Right now the niche that we form is really going after the unknowns. I think you articulated it early on, this is a hunt mission for what might somebody be doing in our backyard that we don't know about? That is what we are doing, but at some point, we should be able to normalize that. That's why it's so important the work we're doing with joint staff to normalize that into DoD policy and guidance. We are bringing in all of our interagency partners. So NASA is providing a liaison for us, I have FBI liaison, I have OSI liaison, I have service liaisons, half of my staff come from the [Intelligence Community], half of my staff come from other scientific and technical backgrounds, I have DOE. So what we're trying to do is ensure, again, as I make UAP into SEP they get handed off to the people that that is their mission to go do, so that we aren't duplicating that. I'm not going to go chase the Chinese high altitude balloon, for example. That's not my job. It's not an unknown, and it's not anomalous anymore. Now it goes over to them. May 17, 2022 House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Subcommittee on Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation Witnesses: , Deputy Director, Office of Naval Intelligence , Under Secretary of Defense Intelligence and Security, Department of Defense Clips 10:00 Ronald Moultrie: The NDAA for fiscal year 2022 has helped us to establish a dedicated office to oversee processes and procedures for the timely collection, processing, analysis, and reporting of UAP related data. 10:15 Ronald Moultrie: What are UAP? Put simply, UAP are airborne objects that, when encountered, cannot be immediately identified. 10:25 Ronald Moultrie: It is the department's contention that by combining appropriately structured, collected data with rigorous scientific analysis, any object that we encounter can likely be isolated, characterized, identified and if necessary, mitigated. 10:40 Ronald Moultrie: We know that our service members have encountered unidentified aerial phenomenon. And because UAPs pose potential flight safety and general security risks, we are committed to a focused effort to determine their origins. Our effort will include the thorough examination of adversarial platforms and potential breakthrough technologies, US government or commercial platforms, Allied or partner systems, and other natural phenomena. 11:15 Ronald Moultrie: We also understand that there has been a cultural stigma surrounding UAP. Our goal is to eliminate the stigma by fully incorporating our operators and mission personnel into a standardized data gathering process. We believe that making UAP reporting a mission imperative will be instrumental to the effort's success. 11:45 Ronald Moultrie: To optimize the department's UAP work, we are establishing an office within the Office of the Secretary of Defense. That office's function is clear: to facilitate the identification of previously unknown or unidentified airborne objects in a methodical, logical, and standardized manner. 13:50 Scott Bray: Since the early 2000s, we have seen an increasing number of unauthorized and or unidentified aircraft or objects in military controlled training areas and training ranges and other designated airspace. Reports of sightings are frequent and continuing. We attribute this increase in reporting to a number of factors, including our work to destigmatize reporting, an increase in the number of new systems such as quad copters and unmanned aerial systems that are in our airspace, identification of what we can classify as clutter (mylar balloons and other types of of air trash), and improvements in the capabilities of our various sensors to detect things in our airspace. 14:50 Scott Bray: The basic issues, then and now, are twofold. First, incursions in our training ranges by unidentified objects represent serious hazards to safety of flight. In every aspect of naval aviation, safety of our air crews is paramount. Second, intrusions by unknown aircraft or objects pose potential threats to the security of our operations. Our aviators train as they would fight, so any intrusions that may compromise the security of our operations by revealing our capabilities, our tactics, techniques or procedures are of great concern to the Navy and Department of Defense. 16:40 Scott Bray: The direct result of those efforts has been increased reporting with increased opportunities to focus a number of sensors on any objects. The message is now clear: if you see something, you need to report it. And the message has been received. 18:55 Scott Bray: As detailed in the ODNI report, if and when individual UAP incidents are resolved, they likely fall into one of five potential explanatory categories: airborne clutter, natural atmospheric phenomena, US government or US industry developmental programs, foreign adversary systems, or another bin that allows for a holding bin of difficult cases, and for the possibility of surprise and potential scientific discovery. 22:20 Scott Bray: If UAP do indeed represent a potential threat to our security then the capabilities, systems, processes and sources we use to observe, record, study, or analyze these phenomena need to be classified at appropriate levels. We do not want, we do not want potential adversaries to know exactly what we're able to see or understand or how we come to the conclusions we make. Therefore, public disclosures must be carefully considered on a case by case basis. 23:35 Rep André Carson (D-IN): This is the third version of this task force and, to be frank, one of Congress's concerns is that the executive branch, in administrations of both parties, has been sweeping concerns about UAPs under the rug by focusing on events that can be explained and avoiding events that cannot be explained. What can you say to give the American people confidence that you aren't just focusing our attention on low hanging fruit with easy explanations? Ronald Moultrie: Congressman, I'll start and then Mr. Bray, please feel free to weigh in. So the way that we're approaching it is with a more thorough, standardized methodology than what we have in the past. First and foremost, the Secretary Defense is chartering this effort, this is not someone lower in the Department of Defense, and he is assigned that task to the Office of Secretary of Defense's Under Secretary for Intelligence Security, that's me, because I'm responsible for looking at intelligence matters, I'm responsible for security matters, and this is potentially both. So we're concerning ourselves with the safety of our personnel, the safety of our installations and bases. There's no other higher power than what we have in actually getting after this. And as you have stated, we have been assigned that task to actually stand up an office, the AOIMSG, which I believe the name server will likely change, but we have moved forward in terms of moving to establish that office. We have, as of this week, picked the director for that effort, a very established and accomplished individual. 42:00 Scott Bray: I would say that we're not aware of any adversary that can move an object without discernible means of propulsion. The question then becomes, in many of these cases where we don't have a discernible means of propulsion in the data that we have, in some cases, there are likely sensor artifacts that that may be hiding some of that, there's certainly some degree of something that looks like signature management that we have seen from some of these UAP. But I would caution, I would simply say that there are a number of other events in which we do not have an explanation. There are a small handful in which there are flight characteristics or signature management that we can't explain with the data that we have. 43:40 Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA): With respect to the second two videos showing the small triangles, the hypothesis is that those are commercial drones that because of the use of night vision goggles appear like triangles, is that the operating assessment? Scott Bray: Some type of drone, some type of unmanned aerial system, and it is simply that that light source resolves itself through the night vision goggles onto the SLR camera as a triangle. 47:55 Scott Bray: Allies have seen these, China has established its own version of the UAP task force. So clearly a number of countries have observations of things in the airspace that they can identify. Rep. Brad Wenstrup (R-OH): And do we share data with some, with all? Are they sharing with us? Scott Bray: We share data with some and some share data with us. Rep. Brad Wenstrup (R-OH): But not necessarily all that have publicly reported something? Scott Bray: That's correct. 52:25 Scott Bray: When I say we can't explain, I mean, exactly as you describe there, that there's a lot of information, like the video that we showed, in which there's simply too little data to create a reasonable explanation. There are a small handful of cases in which we have more data that our analysis simply hasn't been able to fully pull together a picture of what happened. Those are the cases where we talked about where we see some indications of flight characteristics or signature management that are not what we had expected. When it comes to material that we have, we have no material. We have detected no emanations within the UAP task force that would suggest it's anything non-terrestrial in origin. 59:35 Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-IL): There have been no collisions between any US assets and one of these UAPs, correct? Scott Bray: We have not had a collision, we've had at least 11 near misses though. 59:55 Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-IL): And there's been no attempt, there's no communications, or any kind of communication signals that emanate from those objects that we've detected, correct? Scott Bray: That's correct. Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-IL): And have we attempted to communicate with those objects? Scott Bray: No. Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-IL): So we don't we don't even put out an alert saying, you know, "U.S., identify yourself, you are within our flight path," or something like that? Scott Bray: We haven't said anything like that. We've not put anything out like that, generally speaking. For example, in the video that we showed earlier, it appears to be something that is unmanned, appears to be something that may or may not be in controlled flight, and so we've not attempted any communication with that. 1:00:55 Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-IL): And I assume we've never discharged any armaments against a UAP, correct? Scott Bray: That's correct. 1:01:05 Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-IL): How about wreckage? Have we come across any wreckage of any kind of object that has now been examined by you? Scott Bray: The UAP task force doesn't have any wreckage that isn't explainable, that isn't consistent with being of terrestrial origin. 1:01:20 Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-IL): Do we have any sensors underwater to detect on submerged UAPs, anything that is in the ocean or in the seas? Ronald Moultrie: So I think that would be more properly addressed in a closed session. 1:05:30 Ronald Moultrie: So one of the concerns that we have is that there are a lot of individuals and groups that are putting information out there that that could be considered to be somewhat self serving. We're trying to do what's in the best interests of, one, the Department of Defense, and then two, what's in the best interest of the public, to ensure that we can put factually based information back into the mainstream and back into the bloodstream of the reporting media that we have, so people understand what's there. It's important because we are attempting, as this hearing has drawn out to understand, one, what may just be natural phenomenon, two, what may be sensor phenomenology or things that were happening with sensors, three, what may be legitimate counterintelligence threats to places that we have or bases or installations, or security threats to our platforms. And anything that diverts us off of what we have with the resources that have been allocated to us, sends us off in the spurious chases and hunts that are just not helpful. They also contribute to the undermining of the confidence that the Congress and the American people have that we are trying to get to the root cause of what's happening here, report on that, and then feed that back into our national security apparatus so we are able to protect the American people and our allies. So it is harmful, it is hurtful, but hopefully, if we get more information out there, w

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Frank Morano interviews Douglas Dean Johnson, researcher and writer on UAP-related activity in Congress and the Executive Branch about changes in UAP reporting in recently passed NDAA. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Your investments have gone up and down like a yo-yo; what are the tax implications? What do we know about possible changes brought on by the pandemic relief? What tax law changes do we yet know of, whether now in effect or coming down the road such as increasing the SALT (State an local tax) limit? What should we be doing in the final weeks of the year? Should we all go out and buy bigger houses? Cash in on what we got?Tonight, on your legal rights: as the year comes to a close, we give you tax tips. YLR Hosts Jeff Hayden and Dean Johnson are joined by CPA/Attorney Frank Adam and Tax Attorney Cindy Ho.Questions for Jeff's & Deans Guests? Please call, toll free, at (866) 798-8255.

Last time we ran this program, we were looking at a massive budget surplus, the governor and legislators found money to help more folks in the offing; we are now looking at a deficit. Even as we enter the holidays, some face loss of habitability, or worse yet eviction. In other cases, small landlords depending on the income from a rental face a tenant who is not paying.In short, where do landlords and tenants stand right now? Joining YLR Host Jeff Hayden, and co-host Dean Johnson, are three of the best: Jessica Chylik, David Finkelstein and Sal Timpano.Questions for Jeff's and Dean's guests? Call us, toll free, at (866) 798-8255.

The red lights came on – now what happens? Can what I do now make a difference?I got a red-light ticket. Is there anything I can do?Are all traffic matters still considered criminal?Tonight, on Your Legal Rights: we're taking on the inner workings of Traffic Court and the Department Of Motor Vehicles. YLR Host, Dean Johnson, is joined by David Uthman, Law Offices of David Uthman and The San Francisco Traffic Law Clinic, and San Francisco Attorney Michael Silviera.Questions for Dean and his guests? Please call, toll free, at (866) 798-8255.

Dean Johnson- Iraq war veteran and owner of The Tailgate Foodie. They make incredible spices designed for tailgating and outdoor lifestyle. Dean was a combat medic for about 8 years. He was was an ICU nurse for 5 years. His robust experience within the military, college, healthcare was incredible to listen to. We also share a huge passion for fine dinning and talked about our love for nice meals.

Dean Johnson is a Runner, Coach, and one of the Race Director's of the Lost Soul Ultra -  Canada's only 100K Western States 100 qualifying race. LSU is known as the toughest race on the Prairies (and voted “best aid stations in the universe”). We chat to Dean about the 20+ year history of Lost Soul and how it became a WS100 qualifier.  We also chat about his running career, his recent experience at Black Canyons 100k and his coaching platform. All that and more. Here is Dean Johnson...   You can follow Dean on Instagram here : rundean RunDeanRun coaching website here : RunDeanRun Lost Soul Ultra website here : Lost Soul Ultra   Check out GottaRunRacing website here: gottarunracing.com Check out our YouTube Channel at GottaRunRacing Check out GRR Facebook here: GRRFacebook Check out GRR Instagram here: GRRInstagram Check out GRR Twitter here: GRRTwitter Check out GRR Pinterest here: GRRPinterest Support us on Patreon here : GRRPatreon  

In Episode 77, we are joined by Brandon Dean Johnson, who has accepted the passing of the torch to be the new CEO of Create Now, founded by our late friend, Jill Gurr. An organization that has used arts to impact the lives of tens of thousands of at-risk youth, Aalia and Johnson discuss the challenges and joyous moments of being their first African American CEO. Discussing Create Now's focus on educating underprivileged youth, they emphasize the importance of art as we attempt to mitigate the effect of a global pandemic on our most vulnerable children. While talking to Aalia, Johnson drops some real gems that everyone needs to hear! Press PLAY!Like, comment, and subscribe! Stay connected with your host on IG: @aalia_unsugarcoated Stay connected to our guest on IG: @CreatenowartsUNSUGARCOATED Media is a 501c3 media enterprise, using podcasts, print publications, short documentaries, and more to tell stories of empowerment in the face of adversity and trauma. For more information on our goals, content, and sponsorship opportunities, please visit our website.

As you should know, we love firsts here at Kick It Forward and this one pleases us quite a bit. We are proud to provide the exclusive, first podcast interview of our new friend, Dean Johnson, head coach of the Des Moines Menace. Dean comes to us as a Watford, England native and journeyman player and coach. There is no question that he brings a winning mentality and a work ethic to the former Kings of the Heartland (apparently there's a new conference name, the Deep North Division of the Central Conference (facepalm)) and the 2021 USL 2 Champions. Currently the head coach at NCAA Division II powerhouse, Davis & Elkins, Dean has some big shoes to fill, but our impression is that he might put more pressure on himself to win than the Des Moines Society and Red Army combined. Please enjoy this conversation and also, have a little chuckle that we made Deano walk for about 12 minutes in the freezing cold to find a place to record and when we actually landed, it was at a frozen daiquiri bar. He was a great sport and we are excited to have him at the helm!