Podcasts about naval intelligence

Tom Clancy Line of Demarcation (A Jack Ryan Jr. Novel) by M.P. Woodward Amazon.com MPwoodward.com The discovery of an oil field off the coast of Guyana plunges Jack Ryan, Jr into a cauldron of lies in the latest entry in this New York Times bestselling series. It starts with the destruction of a US Coast Guard cutter and the loss of her entire crew. But the USCG Claiborne was on an innocuous mission to open a sea lane between an oil field off the coast of Guyana and the refineries of southern Louisiana. The destruction of the ship, tragic as it is, won't stop that mission from continuing. So who would sacrifice twenty-two men and women just to slow down the plan? That's the question plaguing Jack Ryan Jr. He's in Guyana to work a deal to get his company, Hendley Associates, in on the ground floor of this new discovery, but the destruction of the Claiborne and the kidnapping of the Guyanese Interior Minister make it clear that there's a malignant force working to destroy Guyana's oil industry. It's up to Jack to identify the killers before they draw a bead on him, but how can he do that when the line of demarcation between friend and foe is constantly shifting?About the author M.P. Woodward is the NYT bestselling author of the Tom Clancy Jack Ryan Jr. books SHADOW STATE, LINE OF DEMARCATION and the Handler CIA espionage series (THE HANDLER, DEAD DROP) from Penguin Random House. He served as a U.S. Naval Intelligence officer before going on to a career in tech. For more, please visit his website or find him on social media

Michael Allen talks with retired rear admiral and China expert Mike Studeman about the geopolitical implications of President Trump's trade negotiations with China and US policy to counter Chinese influence and threats. Mike, former Commander of the Office of Naval Intelligence, discusses how China might exploit an "America First" orientation, the critical importance of Taiwan for US economic and national security, and the strategic calculations behind Xi Jinping's timeline for potential military action.

In 2015, Matthew Roberts was a US Naval service member stationed onboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt. The events that transpired during their 2015 workup cycle brought us the first-ever declassified footage of unidentified aerial phenomenon (UAP)and the New York Times article titled: “Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money': The Pentagon's Mysterious U.F.O. Program.” Subsequently, he transferred to the Office of Naval Intelligence in Washington D.C. where he began to have frequent, and often intense, personal experiences with the phenomenon.He discovered through a long, painful, and terrifying journey that the truth of the phenomenon has deep and profound implications for the future of the human race. It may seem like a bold statement but the ultimate universal truth that underlies the phenomenon is captured in the simple yet eloquent words of Mark Twain, “The two most important days in your life are the day you are born, and the day you find out why.”https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08P9MSQYD https://www.pastliveshypnosis.co.uk/https://www.patreon.com/alienufopodcastMy book 'Verified Near Death Exeriences' https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DXKRGDFP

Ireland will today become a member of a European Naval Intelligence Sharing Network known as the Common Information Sharing Environment (CISE). It has 11 other members and will allow the sharing of information of vessels travelling through our waters. Former Member of the Defence Forces Cathal Berry joined Pat to discuss further.

Guest host Richard Syrett (Twitter) welcomed former CIA officer Kevin Shipp to discuss his experiences in counterterrorism and counterespionage, and his CIA investigation and whistleblowing. Shipp described his unexpected recruitment into the CIA, driven by a sense of patriotism during the Reagan administration. Initially doubtful that his past behaviors in college—including drug use, alcohol, and minor crimes—would allow him entry, he was surprised when he successfully advanced through the agency's rigorous background checks. His recruitment process included interviews, polygraph tests, and extensive vetting, ultimately leading to his employment within the CIA's Security Protective Service.Shipp transitioned from security operations to the CIA's Counterterrorism Center, engaging in high-stakes missions, particularly in the Middle East and South America. He recalled extensive combat and survival training, including high-speed counterterrorism driving, firearms qualifications, and counter-surveillance techniques. During one mission in the Philippines, his team was tasked with preventing assassinations by a violent terrorist group. Their success in stopping these attacks earned them a Meritorious Unit Citation. However, Shipp recounted how his experiences in the field led him away from his Christian faith, as he embraced the morally gray and often corrupt world of intelligence work. He described how many CIA operatives operated without moral constraints, engaging in drinking, deception, and other unethical behaviors, a reality he struggled with over time.The defining moment in Shipp's career came when he discovered a severe security vulnerability in the CIA's operations, which allowed foreign intelligence services and terrorists to easily identify undercover agents. After reporting this issue multiple times through official channels, he found that his concerns were being deliberately ignored and even erased from internal records. His persistence led to an external investigation by the State Department, which confirmed that the vulnerability was not accidental but intentionally maintained by the CIA, potentially as a tool for eliminating non-compliant operatives. Following this revelation, Shipp became a whistleblower, exposing corruption within the agency, which he said led to retaliation against him, including alleged poisoning of his family.In the second half of the program, researcher Jon Stewart talked about his investigation into the authenticity of a video showing an alleged interrogation of an alien. He asserted that the video depicts a real alien being questioned in an underground facility south of Area 51. According to Stewart, debunkers have wrongly dismissed the footage as a hoax, primarily due to the darkened visual presentation. He argued that the original footage was altered for theatrical effect and that the unedited version clearly shows more details, including military personnel and the alien's upper body, refuting claims that darkness was used to hide trickery.Stewart further claimed that the footage was part of a classified extraterrestrial program managed by the Department of Naval Intelligence and the Defense Intelligence Agency. He revealed that his investigation, spanning six years and involving multiple whistleblowers, uncovered that this interview took place on April 22, 1991, and was part of Project Aquarius, a secret government initiative for retaining and interrogating extraterrestrial beings. His main whistleblower allegedly provided access to a re-transcribed document detailing the incident. This document, according to Stewart, confirms the existence of a hidden facility near Papoose Lake where ETs were housed and studied. He asserted that this revelation also supports elements of Bob Lazar's claims about Area 51 and secret government programs.

Guest host Richard Syrett (Twitter) welcomed former CIA officer Kevin Shipp to discuss his experiences in counterterrorism and counterespionage, and his CIA investigation and whistleblowing. Shipp described his unexpected recruitment into the CIA, driven by a sense of patriotism during the Reagan administration. Initially doubtful that his past behaviors in college—including drug use, alcohol, and minor crimes—would allow him entry, he was surprised when he successfully advanced through the agency's rigorous background checks. His recruitment process included interviews, polygraph tests, and extensive vetting, ultimately leading to his employment within the CIA's Security Protective Service.Shipp transitioned from security operations to the CIA's Counterterrorism Center, engaging in high-stakes missions, particularly in the Middle East and South America. He recalled extensive combat and survival training, including high-speed counterterrorism driving, firearms qualifications, and counter-surveillance techniques. During one mission in the Philippines, his team was tasked with preventing assassinations by a violent terrorist group. Their success in stopping these attacks earned them a Meritorious Unit Citation. However, Shipp recounted how his experiences in the field led him away from his Christian faith, as he embraced the morally gray and often corrupt world of intelligence work. He described how many CIA operatives operated without moral constraints, engaging in drinking, deception, and other unethical behaviors, a reality he struggled with over time.The defining moment in Shipp's career came when he discovered a severe security vulnerability in the CIA's operations, which allowed foreign intelligence services and terrorists to easily identify undercover agents. After reporting this issue multiple times through official channels, he found that his concerns were being deliberately ignored and even erased from internal records. His persistence led to an external investigation by the State Department, which confirmed that the vulnerability was not accidental but intentionally maintained by the CIA, potentially as a tool for eliminating non-compliant operatives. Following this revelation, Shipp became a whistleblower, exposing corruption within the agency, which he said led to retaliation against him, including alleged poisoning of his family.In the second half of the program, researcher Jon Stewart talked about his investigation into the authenticity of a video showing an alleged interrogation of an alien. He asserted that the video depicts a real alien being questioned in an underground facility south of Area 51. According to Stewart, debunkers have wrongly dismissed the footage as a hoax, primarily due to the darkened visual presentation. He argued that the original footage was altered for theatrical effect and that the unedited version clearly shows more details, including military personnel and the alien's upper body, refuting claims that darkness was used to hide trickery.Stewart further claimed that the footage was part of a classified extraterrestrial program managed by the Department of Naval Intelligence and the Defense Intelligence Agency. He revealed that his investigation, spanning six years and involving multiple whistleblowers, uncovered that this interview took place on April 22, 1991, and was part of Project Aquarius, a secret government initiative for retaining and interrogating extraterrestrial beings. His main whistleblower allegedly provided access to a re-transcribed document detailing the incident. This document, according to Stewart, confirms the existence of a hidden facility near Papoose Lake where ETs were housed and studied. He asserted that this revelation also supports elements of Bob Lazar's claims about Area 51 and secret government programs.

Guest host Richard Syrett (Twitter) welcomed former CIA officer Kevin Shipp to discuss his experiences in counterterrorism and counterespionage, and his CIA investigation and whistleblowing. Shipp described his unexpected recruitment into the CIA, driven by a sense of patriotism during the Reagan administration. Initially doubtful that his past behaviors in college—including drug use, alcohol, and minor crimes—would allow him entry, he was surprised when he successfully advanced through the agency's rigorous background checks. His recruitment process included interviews, polygraph tests, and extensive vetting, ultimately leading to his employment within the CIA's Security Protective Service.Shipp transitioned from security operations to the CIA's Counterterrorism Center, engaging in high-stakes missions, particularly in the Middle East and South America. He recalled extensive combat and survival training, including high-speed counterterrorism driving, firearms qualifications, and counter-surveillance techniques. During one mission in the Philippines, his team was tasked with preventing assassinations by a violent terrorist group. Their success in stopping these attacks earned them a Meritorious Unit Citation. However, Shipp recounted how his experiences in the field led him away from his Christian faith, as he embraced the morally gray and often corrupt world of intelligence work. He described how many CIA operatives operated without moral constraints, engaging in drinking, deception, and other unethical behaviors, a reality he struggled with over time.The defining moment in Shipp's career came when he discovered a severe security vulnerability in the CIA's operations, which allowed foreign intelligence services and terrorists to easily identify undercover agents. After reporting this issue multiple times through official channels, he found that his concerns were being deliberately ignored and even erased from internal records. His persistence led to an external investigation by the State Department, which confirmed that the vulnerability was not accidental but intentionally maintained by the CIA, potentially as a tool for eliminating non-compliant operatives. Following this revelation, Shipp became a whistleblower, exposing corruption within the agency, which he said led to retaliation against him, including alleged poisoning of his family.In the second half of the program, researcher Jon Stewart talked about his investigation into the authenticity of a video showing an alleged interrogation of an alien. He asserted that the video depicts a real alien being questioned in an underground facility south of Area 51. According to Stewart, debunkers have wrongly dismissed the footage as a hoax, primarily due to the darkened visual presentation. He argued that the original footage was altered for theatrical effect and that the unedited version clearly shows more details, including military personnel and the alien's upper body, refuting claims that darkness was used to hide trickery.Stewart further claimed that the footage was part of a classified extraterrestrial program managed by the Department of Naval Intelligence and the Defense Intelligence Agency. He revealed that his investigation, spanning six years and involving multiple whistleblowers, uncovered that this interview took place on April 22, 1991, and was part of Project Aquarius, a secret government initiative for retaining and interrogating extraterrestrial beings. His main whistleblower allegedly provided access to a re-transcribed document detailing the incident. This document, according to Stewart, confirms the existence of a hidden facility near Papoose Lake where ETs were housed and studied. He asserted that this revelation also supports elements of Bob Lazar's claims about Area 51 and secret government programs.

Guest host Richard Syrett (Twitter) welcomed former CIA officer Kevin Shipp to discuss his experiences in counterterrorism and counterespionage, and his CIA investigation and whistleblowing. Shipp described his unexpected recruitment into the CIA, driven by a sense of patriotism during the Reagan administration. Initially doubtful that his past behaviors in college—including drug use, alcohol, and minor crimes—would allow him entry, he was surprised when he successfully advanced through the agency's rigorous background checks. His recruitment process included interviews, polygraph tests, and extensive vetting, ultimately leading to his employment within the CIA's Security Protective Service.Shipp transitioned from security operations to the CIA's Counterterrorism Center, engaging in high-stakes missions, particularly in the Middle East and South America. He recalled extensive combat and survival training, including high-speed counterterrorism driving, firearms qualifications, and counter-surveillance techniques. During one mission in the Philippines, his team was tasked with preventing assassinations by a violent terrorist group. Their success in stopping these attacks earned them a Meritorious Unit Citation. However, Shipp recounted how his experiences in the field led him away from his Christian faith, as he embraced the morally gray and often corrupt world of intelligence work. He described how many CIA operatives operated without moral constraints, engaging in drinking, deception, and other unethical behaviors, a reality he struggled with over time.The defining moment in Shipp's career came when he discovered a severe security vulnerability in the CIA's operations, which allowed foreign intelligence services and terrorists to easily identify undercover agents. After reporting this issue multiple times through official channels, he found that his concerns were being deliberately ignored and even erased from internal records. His persistence led to an external investigation by the State Department, which confirmed that the vulnerability was not accidental but intentionally maintained by the CIA, potentially as a tool for eliminating non-compliant operatives. Following this revelation, Shipp became a whistleblower, exposing corruption within the agency, which he said led to retaliation against him, including alleged poisoning of his family.In the second half of the program, researcher Jon Stewart talked about his investigation into the authenticity of a video showing an alleged interrogation of an alien. He asserted that the video depicts a real alien being questioned in an underground facility south of Area 51. According to Stewart, debunkers have wrongly dismissed the footage as a hoax, primarily due to the darkened visual presentation. He argued that the original footage was altered for theatrical effect and that the unedited version clearly shows more details, including military personnel and the alien's upper body, refuting claims that darkness was used to hide trickery.Stewart further claimed that the footage was part of a classified extraterrestrial program managed by the Department of Naval Intelligence and the Defense Intelligence Agency. He revealed that his investigation, spanning six years and involving multiple whistleblowers, uncovered that this interview took place on April 22, 1991, and was part of Project Aquarius, a secret government initiative for retaining and interrogating extraterrestrial beings. His main whistleblower allegedly provided access to a re-transcribed document detailing the incident. This document, according to Stewart, confirms the existence of a hidden facility near Papoose Lake where ETs were housed and studied. He asserted that this revelation also supports elements of Bob Lazar's claims about Area 51 and secret government programs.

Happy New Year to everyone…and Midrats is back with you.Join us today for a broad-ranging discussion for our 15th Anniversary Show with a regular guest since the start, Claude Berube.The conversation will go who knows where, but we will begin by reflecting on how the defense media and information environment has evolved since 2010—not just from the perspective of the information consumer, but also in terms of where decision-makers turn for opinions and ideas. We'll include some inside baseball as well, starting with how the relationship between the PAO world and the broader number and flavor of media has evolved.Here's to the 16th Season!Claude Berube, PhD, is a retired Navy Commander and retired professor from the Naval Academy. He's worked on Capitol Hill and as a contractor for Naval Sea Systems Command and the Office of Naval Research. He also worked at the Office of Naval Intelligence. He is the author or co-author of eight books including his most recent. He is working on his ninth book, about the Navy and the lead up to World War 2. His new podcast about the United States Senate will begin later this month.ShowlinksPowerline Blog and Dan Rather's MemogateMWI's “Spear” podcastThe Failure of the InstitutionsClaude's “Siren's Song” and other booksWar on the RocksCIMSECBill Roggio & Long War JournalSal Mergcogliano's What's Going on With ShippingJohn Konrad's gCaptainGeopolitics Decanted PodcastInformation Dissemination blog, by Raymond PritchettSummaryIn this episode of the MidRats podcast, hosts Sal and Mark celebrate the 15th anniversary of their show with guest Claude Berube. They discuss the evolution of information in national security, the impact of media on public perception, and the changing landscape of military communication. The conversation highlights the importance of accountability, transparency, and credible voices in media, as well as the collaborative nature of modern information sharing. They also look ahead to future projects and initiatives in the realm of military and national security communication.TakeawaysThe Midrats podcast has been a consistent platform for naval discussions for 15 years.The evolution of information access has transformed national security discourse.Public Affairs Officers have become more cautious in their engagement with the media.The military's communication strategies have shifted significantly over the years.Accountability and transparency are essential for maintaining public trust in the military.A culture of untruth can undermine the credibility of official statements.Independent media sources are increasingly important for accurate information.Collaboration among information producers enhances the quality of discourse.Future initiatives in military communication will focus on transparency and engagement.Sound Bites"It's amazing how fast time flies.""This is the C-SPAN for the Navy.""The future is disaggregated."Chapters00:00: Celebrating 15 Years of Midrats Podcast02:16: The Evolution of Naval Information06:28: Democratization of Media and Its Impacts14:54: The Changing Role of Public Affairs in the Navy27:11: Navigating a Culture of Untruth in Media32:48: Independence in Media: The Value of Non-Sponsorship35:31: The Role of Personalities in Information Dissemination37:59: The Importance of Open Dialogue and Accountability42:01: Self-Correction in New Media44:48: The Credibility of Online Sources47:40: The Future of Media and Influence55:25: Upcoming Projects and Future Endeavors

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In this OODAcast, Bob Gourley interviews retired Admiral Mike Studeman, a leader with over 35 years of experience in operational intelligence and national security. Admiral Studeman shares his journey, from joining the Navy at the close of the Cold War to serving as the Director of Intelligence for Southern Command and Indo-Pacific Command, and ultimately as the Commander of the Office of Naval Intelligence. He offers deep insights into the evolving nature of intelligence, emphasizing the importance of operational intelligence in driving informed decision-making at all levels. Admiral Studeman discusses key lessons from his career, the value of continual learning, and his perspective on leadership—highlighting the importance of proactive action, integrity, and inspiring others. He also explores challenges facing America today, including leadership crises and the strategic implications of global shifts, particularly with respect to China. The discussion delves into his new book, Mind of the Chain: Forging Leaders of Iron Integrity, where he shares stories and reflections from his career, offering valuable advice to leaders at all stages of their journey. Admiral Studeman's message is clear: effective leadership requires constant learning, discernment, and a commitment to shaping a better future. For more see: MikeStudeman.com Might of the Chain: Forging Leaders of Iron Integrity

We're declassifying today's podcast so everyone can learn from Rear Admiral (ret.) Mike Studeman, former commander of the Office of Naval Intelligence. Studeman, who is one of the nation's leading national security professionals, recently authored the thought-provoking book “Might of the Chain: Forging Leaders of Iron Integrity,” focused on critical leadership lessons that are easily applied to the fire service, including how to build buy-in, plus the top traits for leaders to cultivate among their members – and themselves. Plus, we dig into all of this: The myth of the “always-in-command” leadership style The psychological impact of being singularly focused on the job The power of branding – mottos, flags, etc. – to organizational culture Fine-tuning your mode for enacting change You can also find “Might of the Chain: Forging Leaders of Iron Integrity” at JPL Books. This episode of the Better Every Shift Podcast is sponsored by TheFireStore. Learn more about getting the gear you need at prices you can afford by visiting TheFireStore. Enjoying the show? Send an email to bettereveryshift@firerescue1.com to share your feedback!

Adam goes it alone for the first of a two part deep dive into the formation and history of America's first intelligence agency, the Office of Naval Intelligence, and their shockingly rapid transition from spying on foreign naval powers to spying on American citizens and crushing dissent. Reference Links: https://www.abebooks.com/9780870214981/Office-Naval-Intelligence-birth-Americas-0870214985/plp https://www.abebooks.com/9780870216855/Conflict-Duty-U.S-Navys-Intelligence-0870216856/plp

Step into a whirlwind of discovery with Michael Jaco and the brilliant Dr. Scott Perez, an inventor with over 20 groundbreaking patents. This episode dives into the science behind hurricanes, revealing the sun's hydrogen fusion as the driving force behind Earth's weather systems. Explore the mysterious connection between sunspot activity and hurricane intensity, and venture into the uncharted territories of the universe where strange phenomena—like enigmatic craft near the sun—challenge our understanding of reality. Dr. Perez pulls back the curtain on the intricate physics of lightning, the secrets of water molecules, and the astonishing parallels between natural phenomena and ancient biblical texts. Uncover how these age-old scriptures might encode advanced technological insights, including energy transfer and weather manipulation. This episode doesn't stop at natural wonders. Dr. Perez shares insider knowledge from his time in telecommunications and Naval Intelligence, shedding light on revolutionary submarine technologies, alternative fuel systems, and the vulnerabilities of America's critical infrastructure. From hydrogen-powered propulsion to modular nuclear reactors capable of withstanding EMPs, these innovations could redefine the future of energy and defense. In a bold leap, the conversation explores the metaphysical, connecting ancient civilizations, psychedelics, and hidden knowledge with cutting-edge advancements in AI and quantum computing. With stories of classified projects, military intrigue, and conspiracy theories—from the Osama bin Laden raid to the disappearance of MH370—this dialogue challenges everything you thought you knew. Dr. Perez also recounts his personal journey, drawing inspiration from the biblical Book of Job and the limitless mysteries of our planet. From the depths of the oceans to the expanses of space, he urges us to embrace humility, curiosity, and the boundless potential of human ingenuity. Prepare for a mind-expanding journey through science, history, and the metaphysical. This episode will leave you questioning the boundaries of human knowledge and eager to explore the unseen forces shaping our world. Join host Michael Jaco, Ex-Navy Seal, who teaches you how to tap into your Intuition and Unleash the Power within, so you can become the Master of your Reality. Connect with Michael Jaco at his website - michaelkjaco.com

Originally recorded and released in 2022, this episode covers a highly embarrassing scandal involving the US Navy and the Office of Naval Intelligence. Now with updates about the chaos that erupted around the trials of the various defendants and a conclusion that came down just last week involving Fat Leonard himself. Show notes: https://conspirapod.link/fatleonardupdate

In this episode of The PDB Situation Report: We'll begin with the latest from the Middle East, as Israel expands its offensive in southern Lebanon while Iran-backed Hezbollah fires rockets at Haifa for the first time since the war began. Lieutenant General Ben Hodges will join us to share his insights on the growing conflict and its broader implications for the region and the world. Later in the show, we'll turn to the Far East, where the armed forces of the Philippines, the United States, and four other nations have begun joint exercises in a show of naval strength, as tensions with China continue to rise. Retired Rear Admiral Mike Studeman, former commander of the Office of Naval Intelligence, will join us for more on that. To listen to the show ad-free, become a premium member of The President's Daily Brief by visiting PDBPremium.com. Please remember to subscribe if you enjoyed this episode of The President's Daily Brief.  Email: PDB@TheFirstTV.com. ☕ Blackout Coffee: https://www.blackoutcoffee.com/PDB

What do corporate communications leaders know about the businesses they serve? Chances are they know quite a lot. They know the stories, the narratives, and the CEO's various points of view; they know the strategies, the values, and the culture; they know the audiences and stakeholders and (should) how to calm them in times of crisis; sometimes they know where all the bodies are buried and which closets hold the most skeletons. Their job is, fundamentally, to know things. But do they understand The Business? Do they understand balance sheets? Do they speak the language of financial performance? Do they grasp everything in the Annual Report? Some do, but many still don't. How can they become the trusted advisors their companies and clients need, especially in these challenging and changing times? In this episode of The Trending Communicator, host Dan Nestle reconnects with David Albritton, the former Naval Intelligence officer who built a stunning career in Communications before becoming an executive coach and strategic advisor. Currently Managing Director at CRA, David may be the only person to have made the leap from PR flack to global CEO (at least according to Dan), giving him a unique perspective on the need for communicators to develop business acumen and leadership skills to build thriving careers. Even in the age of AI. As the world grapples with the implications of AI, misinformation, and shifting workplace dynamics, David shares his perspective on what it means to be a communicator today. He emphasizes the importance of building authentic relationships, understanding the business beyond the communications function, and the critical role of communicators as strategic advisors. David also discusses his journey to becoming a board member at Embecta and the unique skills communicators can bring to the table in these roles. He highlights the necessity for communicators to be business partners first, leveraging their unique position to influence and drive organizational success. He and Dan spend some time on the impact of AI on personal and professional development, revealing insights into how communicators can use these tools to enhance their understanding of business operations and improve their strategic influence.  Whether you're a seasoned communications professional or just starting your career, this episode offers valuable lessons on leadership, the evolving role of communications, and the skills needed to thrive in today's fast-paced environment. Don't miss this opportunity to learn from one of the leading voices in strategic communications.   Listen in and hear about... The evolving role of communications professionals in the face of AI, misinformation, and declining institutional trust. Insights into the unique challenges and opportunities for communicators seeking board positions. The importance of building authentic relationships in hybrid and remote work environments. Strategies for communicators to become trusted business partners and influence organizational success. How generative AI can enhance personal career growth and understanding of business operations. The enduring qualities of effective leadership amidst technological and societal changes.   Notable Quotes "COVID changed the world in terms of what we accept in terms of how we engage with people. It all really comes down to relationships—who knows you, who do you know, do they trust you, do they have confidence in your abilities?" - David Albritton [10:34] "If we only think about our value proposition through the lens of communications, we are failing the organization and ourselves. We need to become business partners who by the way, do communications." - David Albritton [16:26] "If you aspire for greatness going forward, then how are you sharing your voice in that room when you have the opportunity? That's a critical skill for communicators that we don't develop." - David Albritton [21:05] "I've been that person who comes into the room and is reluctant to offer an opinion or advice because they're talking about finance now, and I don't want to get over my skis." - Dan Nestle [22:01] "The preparation you put in before you get to the meeting is going to make all the difference in the world because now you're educated, now you're confident, now you can raise your hand and ask a smart question." - David Albritton [28:29] "Managing what people are saying about you when you're not in the room is hugely important for career growth." - David Albritton [41:54] "I believe that corporate structure itself is obsolete and doesn't know it yet." - Dan Nestle [47:12]   Resources and Links Dan Nestle The Trending Communicator | Website Daniel Nestle | LinkedIn Dan Nestle | Twitter/X David Albritton David Albritton | LinkedIn CRA | Admired Leadership ALEX, the Virtual Leadership Coach   Timestamped key moments from this episode (as generated by Fireflies.ai)

Jack Posobiec returns for a fascinating conversation about the history of communist revolutions and the role that information warfare plays in the shaping modern political ideologies. Jack gives us case studies in the revolutions of Russia, China, and France - along with the key differences between them and the American Revolution. He explains how Marxist and far-left movements “unhumanize” their political opponents to gain control of nations. And he dives into the tactics of information warfare and his strategy for countering far-left narratives (including a crash course in how to effectively use memes and satire to disarm opponents). Jack Posobiec is the author of the new book “Unhumans: The Secret History of Communist Revolutions (and How to Crush Them)”. He is the host of the podcast series Human Events Daily. He speaks fluent Mandarin, worked for the US Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai, is a former officer in the Navy Reserve, and worked for the Office of Naval Intelligence. Follow him on X at @JackPosobiec.

Rabbi Arnie Resnicoff's life took a fateful turn on October 23, 1983, when he found himself amidst the chaos and devastation of the Beirut barracks bombing, a bombing that took the lives of 241 U.S. servicemembers in one of the largest non-nuclear explosions in history. Rabbi Resnicoff was in Beirut to conduct a memorial service for Staff Sgt. Allen Soifert, a Jewish Marine killed by a sniper. Due to his observance of the Jewish Sabbath, he remained in Beirut following the service. When the bomb exploded, he was in a nearby building and immediately rushed to the site, becoming one of the first rescuers on the scene. Rabbi Resnicoff spent the entire day pulling survivors from the rubble and providing comfort to the dying. During the rescue, he lost his yarmulke, and Father George Pucciarelli crafted him a new one from the camouflage cover of a helmet. His actions that day were later chronicled in a letter to his wife and mother and in a report used by President Reagan. Today, Rabbi Resnicoff shares powerful memories of October 23, 1983, in the last episode of our limited series: Beirut Survivors. Rabbi Arnold E. Resnicoff began his naval career as an enlisted man in the reserves during high school and served as a Navy line officer in Vietnam, where his ship was the first to enter Cambodia in 1970. After Vietnam and a stint with Naval Intelligence in Europe, he left the Navy to study at rabbinical school. Returning to the Navy Chaplain Corps, he served on active duty for nearly 25 years, earning the Defense Superior Service Medal for his work with military and civilian leaders throughout Europe, Africa, and the Middle East. Rabbi Resnicoff also served as the National Director of Interreligious Affairs for the American Jewish Committee and continues to be a consultant on interfaith values and interreligious affairs. His life of service, both in and out of uniform, reflects a deep commitment to faith, humanity, and the enduring bonds forged in moments of profound challenge. SPONSORS TARGETED: BEIRUT – The first in Jack's new non-fiction series https://www.officialjackcarr.com/books/targeted-beirut/ Bravo Company Manufacturing: Visit us on the web at http://jackcarr.co/bcm and on Instagram @BravoCompanyUSA.com SIG: Celebrating the 40th Anniversary of the legendary SIG SAUER P226. Learn more here - Jack Carr Gear: Explore the gear here - https://jackcarr.co/gear

The Cognitive Crucible is a forum that presents different perspectives and emerging thought leadership related to the information environment. The opinions expressed by guests are their own, and do not necessarily reflect the views of or endorsement by the Information Professionals Association. During this episode, Ellen McCarthy discusses how to conceptualize and develop standards and measurements on information quality, how to align AI with accurate and reliable information, and how challenges and potential of leveraging AI can support information quality. Also, be sure to check out and register for the upcoming 28 October symposium co-sponsored by TIM and IPA: Beyond the Noise - Elevating Information Quality in a Generative AI Era. Recording Date: 5 Sept 2024 Research Question: Ellen McCarthy suggests an interested student examine macroeconomic indicators or drivers of information consumption. Resources: Cognitive Crucible Podcast Episodes Mentioned #119 Katherine Carman on Truth Decay Ellen McCarthy Bio October 28, 2024 Symposium Gallup: U.S. Confidence in Institutions Mostly Flat, but Police Up Gallup: Confidence in Institutions DOJ: Two RT Employees Indicted for Covertly Funding and Directing U.S. Company that Published Thousands of Videos in Furtherance of Russian Interests Information Sharing and Analysis Centers Alfred North Whitehead quote: “Civilization advances by extending the number of important operations which we can perform without thinking of them.” Link to full show notes and resources Guest Bio: The Honorable Ellen McCarthy is a national security professional with extensive experience in government and the private sector. She has held several high-level positions in the U.S. intelligence community and has worked on a wide range of national security issues. Ellen served as the Assistant Secretary of State for Intelligence and Research from 2018 to 2020. In this role, she oversaw the State Department's intelligence analysis and provided support to senior policymakers on foreign policy matters. Before that, she was the President of Noblis NSP, a national security-focused science and technology company. She also served as the President of the Intelligence and National Security Alliance (INSA), a non-profit organization focused on addressing intelligence and national security priorities. Prior to her time in the private sector, McCarthy held various leadership positions in the intelligence community, including serving as the Chief Operating Officer of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency and the Director of Intelligence Operations at the U.S. Coast Guard. She was also lead for Human Capital and Security for the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and started her career as an all source intelligence analyst within the Office of Naval Intelligence and the Atlantic Intelligence Command. She is a wife, mother, daughter and friend. About: The Information Professionals Association (IPA) is a non-profit organization dedicated to exploring the role of information activities, such as influence and cognitive security, within the national security sector and helping to bridge the divide between operations and research. Its goal is to increase interdisciplinary collaboration between scholars and practitioners and policymakers with an interest in this domain. For more information, please contact us at communications@information-professionals.org. Or, connect directly with The Cognitive Crucible podcast host, John Bicknell, on LinkedIn. Disclosure: As an Amazon Associate, 1) IPA earns from qualifying purchases, 2) IPA gets commissions for purchases made through links in this post.

➡️ PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/DecodingGeopolitics Sign up to my upcoming geopolitics newsletter: https://station-zero.beehiiv.com/subscribe Might of the Chain: https://a.co/d/633rSOr This is a conversation with Admiral Mike Studeman. Mike spent decades as an intelligence officer in the U.S. Navy, eventually becoming a Director of Intelligence at the Indo-Pacific Command and until very recently, he served as a Commander of the Office of Naval Intelligence, the oldest U.S. intelligence agency. He speaks Mandarin and throughout his career he has focused on studying and analyzing China and its military.  In this conversation, we talk about why the risk of a war with China is much higher than most people think and why Mike thinks that we are on a trajectory towards it. How is the Navy prepared for it, how is it adapting to the changing character of war or why the U.S. is losing to China in information warfare. 

Send us a Text Message.Ever wondered how a childhood love for military history can shape a remarkable career in naval intelligence? Join us as we sit down with MP Woodward to trace his journey from naval intelligence to authoring the newest Tom Clancy novel. Support the Show.Make sure to check out Jason on IG @drjasonpiccolo

In this episode of The Real ResQ, host Jason Quinn is joined once again by Harry Knight, former Navy Rescue Swimmer.   In this part of the conversation, Jason and Harry discuss Harry's passion for CPR and his extensive volunteer work. Harry shares his personal experiences with CPR and how it has made a significant impact on people's lives. He also talks about the Military Outstanding Volunteer Service Medal that he received for his volunteer service.  Despite going through tough times, Harry turned them into a positive by dedicating his time to help others. Harry discusses his experience as a volunteer in the Southern Maryland fire and emergency medical services. He talks about the importance of volunteering and the training opportunities that it provides. He also shares stories of his first EMS call and a memorable call involving a child. Harry emphasizes the need for constant awareness and readiness as a first responder, as well as the importance of communication and coordination with law enforcement. In this part of the conversation, Harry shares two significant incidents that he witnessed. The first incident occurred in 1996, when he responded to a car crash and saved a woman's life.  The second incident happened in 2022, when he witnessed a fatal head-on collision involving a semi-truck. Harry emphasizes the importance of seeking help and support for mental health after experiencing traumatic events. The conversation also touches on Harry's recognition in a Navy magazine for his work in the Office of Naval Intelligence. He also discusses his experience as a disaster preparedness officer and the importance of having a medical response team in the workplace.  Harry shares stories of responding to multiple medical emergencies within a short period of time and highlights the value of having trained personnel on-site. Harry also talks about the unique opportunity to work alongside his son, who is a paramedic, and the memorable calls they ran together. He concludes by offering advice to listeners, encouraging them to pursue their passions and reach out for help when needed. Enjoy!   This episode is powered by Vertical HeliCASTS. Thank you for sponsoring this episode of The Real ResQ: Ready Swimmer and The Real ResQ Store. Follow The Real ResQ on Facebook and Instagram and listen on Vertical Helicasts. Plus, get your podcast gear at therealresqstore.com.

In this, the first episode of PREVAIL in three weeks, Greg Olear opens with his thoughts on the debate, the immunity ruling, the Kamala option, and the politically suicidal push to replace Biden at the top of the ticket.Then, Greg welcomes “Bad” Brad Berkwitt, a veteran who served for more than 20 years in the U.S. Navy, including 16 and a half in Naval Intelligence. After retiring from the military, he served as a government contractor for the Dept of Homeland Security. He also hosted a boxing show, Ringside Reporter. And he's now the host of the Bad Brad Berkwitt Show, where he interviews key figures in the fight for democracy. In this conversation, Greg talks to Brad about his career, intelligence services, the Gulf War, Gitmo, and how to take on MAGA. Plus: a new executive search firm!Follow “Bad” Brad:https://x.com/BadBradRSRWatch his show:https://www.youtube.com/@TheBadBradBerkwittShowThanks AURA. Go to  AURA.com/PROTECTION for a 14 day trial plus a check of your data to see if your personal information has been leaked online, all for FREE. Check out ROUGH BEAST, Greg's new book:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D47CMX17 Subscribe to the PREVAIL newsletter:https://gregolear.substack.com/aboutWould you like to tell us more about you? http://survey.podtrac.com/start-survey.aspx?pubid=BffJOlI7qQcF&ver=short

Welcome to the CavasShips Podcast with Christopher P. Cavas and Chris Servello…a weekly podcast looking at naval and maritime events and issues of the day – in the US, across the seas and around the world. This week…Keeping an eye on the dragon. What is the Chinese Navy up to? What are their capabilities? We'll hear some of the latest views on the People's Liberation Army Navy from Rear Admiral (retired) Mike Studeman, former commander of the US Navy's Office of Naval Intelligence. Please send us feedback by DM'ing @CavasShips or @CSSProvision or you can email chriscavas@gmail.com or cservello@defaeroreport.com.

Summary In this episode of the Harder Not Smarter Podcast, we sit down with Chase Hughes, a former Naval Intelligence veteran and all-around behavior expert. After retiring from the US military in 2019, Chase didn't slow down; he pivoted to teaching interrogation, sales, influence, and persuasion. He's the brain behind the 6MX system, now the gold standard in intelligence tradecraft, and the author of the bestselling book on behavior profiling, persuasion, and influence, *The Ellipsis Manual*. Oh, and he's also the only consultant in the world who offers a 300% money-back guarantee – talk about confidence! Chase shares his fascinating journey from identifying the training gaps in the military to becoming a successful entrepreneur. He dives into the nitty-gritty of mindset and psychology, dropping gems on how these elements are crucial for success. He's big on the value of mentors and accountability partners, and he has some great advice on recognizing your worth and grabbing opportunities when they come your way. Throughout our chat, Chase provides deep insights into building a brand, beating imposter syndrome, and developing empathy and emotional intelligence. We also talk about the importance of building a strong team and knowing when to delegate. Chase stresses hiring business-savvy people – a tip every leader should take to heart. And if you're curious about his future plans, Chase spills the beans on creating more content and rekindling his passion projects. He talks about his upcoming fictional TV series, "Phrase 7", and his exciting collaboration with Dr. Phil on "The Behavior Panel". Enjoy the show! Show Notes Get 1-month of FREE access to the ⁠Vet Collective Community⁠ by using discount code: NLT1UQTI Join us here: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.collective.vet⁠⁠⁠ Sign up for our Weekly Newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.collective.vet⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on LinkedIn: ⁠ ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/harder-not-smarter/⁠ Episodes also available on Spotify, Apple, and Amazon Music. Chase's Links https://www.chasehughes.com https://www.youtube.com/@chasehughesofficial https://www.instagram.com/chasehughesofficial/ https://x.com/thechasehughes Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Chase Hughes 01:03 Building a Brand and Image 03:25 Identifying Training Shortcomings 04:04 Motivation to Improve Training 04:59 Writing The Ellipsis Manual 06:13 Teaching Interrogation and Persuasion 07:08 The Importance of Understanding People 07:57 Changing Outlook on Communication and Relationships 09:40 Developing Empathy and EQ 10:45 Seeing Behind the Mask 11:04 The Success Triangle 12:12 Improving Self-Reflection 13:30 Overcoming Self-Consciousness 14:31 Imposter Syndrome and Self-Worth 15:09 Transitioning from Military to Civilian Life 16:01 Taking Risks and Seizing Opportunities 19:38 Accountability Partners and Mindset 21:53 Recognizing Your Value as an Entrepreneur 23:27 Stumbling Upon Success 25:42 The Value of Mindset and Money Psychology 27:06 Building Relationships and Finding Mentors 28:42 Recognizing Your Worth and Capitalizing on Opportunities 30:22 Realizing Entrepreneurial Success 33:30 The Value of Mindset and Money Psychology 35:51 The Importance of Mindset and Goals 38:34 Accountability Partners and Mindset 39:30 Building a Team and Hiring a CEO 39:59 Building a Strong Team 41:27 Knowing Your Role as a Leader 42:24 Different Phases of a Company 43:18 Recognizing Your Skillset 44:03 Delegating Responsibilities 45:38 Transitioning Back to Passion 47:28 Creating More Content 48:52 Hiring Business People vs. Entrepreneurs 50:35 Identifying Business vs. Entrepreneurial Mindsets 52:08 Focus on Writing and Creating 53:32 Setting Up Systems for Autopilot 54:48 Fictional TV Series - Phrase 7 56:37 The Behavior Panel and Collaboration with Dr. Phil 59:03 The Importance of Nature and Disconnecting from Technology

Mathew Crawford discusses his research into Covid-19 and bacteriological warfare, his discovery how some in the Medical Freedom Movement (MFM) don't seem to be fighting for freedom, and how this led him to discover links between alternative media, fake opposition, the occult, and military-intelligence.  He looks into theosophy, Nazism, Scientology, Falun Gong, 1960s counter-culture, MK-ULTRA, the Office of Naval Intelligence, and the plans for a New World Order. He believes independence movements (e.g. India) were steered. He questions Bitcoin and says that the military-occult-banking-syndicate virtually has all the power. We are in a pickle! Watch on BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble / Substack Geopolitics & Empire · Matthew Crawford: The Military-Occult-Banking-Syndicate Has All the Power #433 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Donate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultationBecome a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comBecome a Sponsor https://geopoliticsandempire.com/sponsors **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! Above Phone https://abovephone.com/?above=geopoliticsBorderless Mexico Expat Health Insurance https://beacons.ai/jamesguzmanLegalShield https://hhrvojemoric.wearelegalshield.comWise Wolf Gold https://www.wolfpack.gold/?ref=geopolitics Websites Substack https://roundingtheearth.substack.com X https://x.com/EduEngineer Mathew Crawford on Courtenay Turner Podcast https://rumble.com/v4x4fj9-ep.407-neo-theosophical-cults-and-intelligence-ops-w-mathew-crawford-courte.html About Mathew Crawford Mathew Crawford is an Educator, Entrepreneur, Statistician, Finance Specialist, and Founder of Rounding the Earth. *Podcast intro music is from the song "The Queens Jig" by "Musicke & Mirth" from their album "Music for Two Lyra Viols": http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

The Journey Podcast 153. Nick Bryant: The Truth About WatergatePublisher Kris Millegan speaks with Nick Bryant about his new book, THE TRUTH ABOUT WATERGATE: A Tale of Extraordinary Lies and Liars, which shatters the myth that Watergate was a triumph of democracy, and that Bob Woodward deserves a place among the pantheon of journalistic immortals.Summary:Watergate was a silent coup. At the heart of Watergate is a CIA honey trap. The CIA came after Nixon because one of the first things he did as president was cut the CIA, the State Department, and the Defense Department out of his foreign policy and because he wanted to make peace with communists, the Soviet Union and China.Nick wanted to make Watergate accessible with immaculate scholarship (with over 2,000 citations of sources).Woodward and Bernstein were ethical eunuchs. Woodward's path to employment at The Washington Post is very sketchy. Nick calls him a crypto-fascist and a spook. Kris: “I have no doubt he was Naval Intelligence.”Also discussed is the history of the drug trade from Asia, known by Washington. And Nick's non-profit, EpsteinJustice.com, dedicated to getting justice for Jeffrey Epstein's victim.Nick, paraphrasing: “The mainstream hasn't reported how vicious some of Epstein's clients were. Some of them world leaders. Some like to beat little girls. Congressional approval is at 17%, which means Americans don't believe that Congress is helping us. A lot of our politicians are sociopaths, willing to make Faustian pacts. But a lot of them are blackmailed.”Congressman Tim Burchett came out in December and said, “A bunch of my colleagues are being blackmailed by honey traps in motels.” Nick has been saying this for years.Nick also wrote THE FRANKLIN SCANDAL: A Story of Powerbrokers, Child Abuse, & Betrayal, and co-wrote CONFESSIONS OF A DC MADAM: The Politics of Sex, Lies, and Blackmail. He can be following at nickbryantnyc.com.THE JOURNEY Podcast is at TrineDay.com and the usual podcast platforms. It comprises a priceless curriculum. “Those who read books will always sound crazy to those who don't.” (Source unknown.)

Today the boys consider Sunak's extremist claims, Labour flying in candidates for Scottish seats, anti-immigration attitudes in Ireland and the latest polls for Trump/Biden in the USA. At the end of the show a question from James Doonan. Recommendations: Stuart Every Move You Make - Book - C. L. Taylor Keep your friends close and your enemies closer… Alexandra, Lucy, Bridget, River and Natalie. Five friends who wish they'd never met. Because the one thing they have in common is the worst thing in their lives: they are all being stalked. When one of their group is murdered, days after their stalker is released from prison, time stands still for them all. They know their lives could end just as brutally at any moment – all it takes is for the people they fear the most to catch up with them. When the group receive a threat that one of them will die in ten days' time, the terror that stalks their daily lives becomes all-consuming. But they know they don't want to be victims anymore – it's time to turn the tables and finally get their revenge. Because the only way to stop a stalker is to become one yourself…  The multimillion bestseller returns with her most propulsive and addictive book yet. A chilling and terrifyingly real thriller that will keep you up all night – and looking over your shoulder for days to come… Eamonn Ian Fleming: The Complete Man - Book - Nicholas Shakespeare A fresh portrait of the man behind James Bond, and his enduring impact, by an award-winning biographer with unprecedented access to the Fleming family papers. Ian Fleming's greatest creation, James Bond, has had an enormous and ongoing impact on our culture. What Bond represents about ideas of masculinity, the British national psyche and global politics has shifted over time, as has the interpretation of the life of his author. But Fleming himself was more mysterious and subtle than anything he wrote. Ian's childhood with his gifted brother Peter and his extraordinary mother set the pattern for his ambition to be 'the complete man', and he would strive for the means to achieve this 'completeness' all his life. Only a thriller writer for his last twelve years, his dramatic personal life and impressive career in Naval Intelligence put him at the heart of critical moments in world history, while also providing rich inspiration for his fiction. Nicholas Shakespeare is one of the most gifted biographers working today. His talent for uncovering new material that casts fresh light on his subjects is fully evident in this masterful, definitive biography.

Our guest on this episode is Dr Helen Fry, the author of more than 25 books on the social history of WW2, not least British intelligence activities, spies and the like.  She is a leading authority on many related topics, including on the ‘secret listeners' who eavesdropped on what enemy Prisoners of War were discussing. This was in order to gain insights into what was going on in the foe's war effort and also the mindset of the German opposition.  In the discussion with podcast host Iain Ballantyne, Dr Fry touches on various naval angles not least the eavesdropping that was used across various sites where German U-boat crews were held. This includes the use of deliberately casual interrogations to lull the PoWs into a false sense of security for when they discussed things later with their comrades in captivity (not knowing they were being listened to). We also learn how one U-boat sailor in 1940 gave away Enigma machine secrets in a most extraordinary fashion. The unsung, backroom work of women and others in British naval intelligence, including for the D-Day invasion of June 6, 1944, is included in the fascinating chat.   Also discussed is the use of female interrogators, and also how German and Austrian refugees from Nazi oppression (due to their Jewish faith) became players in the British intelligence-gathering system and even commandos. The next edition of Warships IFR is published on May 17, in the UK and globally. It includes a special D-Day 80 feature section, commemorating the Allied invasion of Normandy that began the liberation of Northwest Europe from Nazi oppression. For more on the June 2024 edition https://bit.ly/w2406c (live from 17.5.24) or visit the magazine web site http://bit.ly/wifrmag Also, follow us on X @WarshipsIFR Facebook @WarshipsFR and Warships IFR TV on YouTube @warshipsifrtv3668 For more on various editions of the magazine https://bit.ly/wifri Among Dr Fry's books are ‘Women in Intelligence', ‘The Walls Have Ears' and ‘The London Cage'. Her next book is ‘Why I Became an X Troop Commando' (out later this year). All of the aforementioned are published by Yale University Press. Visit Helen's web site https://www.helen-fry.com or follow her on X @DrHelenFry Iain Ballantyne is the founding and current Editor of Warships IFR (first published in 1998) along with its ‘Guide to the Royal Navy' (since 2003) and ‘Guide to the US Navy' (since 2018). Iain is also author of the books ‘Hunter Killers' (Orion) and ‘The Deadly Trade' (Weidenfeld & Nicolson), both about submarine warfare, plus ‘Arnhem: Ten Days in The Cauldron' and ‘Bismarck: 24 Hours to Doom' (published by Canelo). Visit his web site Bismarckbattle.com and follow him on X @IBallantyn

PREVIEW:PRC: USN: Conversation with colleague Jim Fanell, US Navy retired captain of Naval Intelligence, re the sea trial of the new PRC aircraft carrier, Fujian, in the South China Sea region.  Details later. 1942 Lexington

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Robert Morningstar had his first extraterrestrial contact experience at age 3, and similar experiences happened throughout his life. As a result of alien contacts his psychic abilities were enhanced, which led to the Office of Naval Intelligence becoming interested in him. He claims to have been recruited as an asset for various navy intel programs, such as testing reverse-engineered mind-machine interfaces used on modified jet aircraft such as the F-14 and F-15. Morningstar's experiences led to him studying parapsychology and the UFO phenomenon, and he became a writer and editor for UFO Digest from 2004 to 2022, and a radio host. From 2008 to 2010, he was involved in a failed US Navy initiative to disclose the UFO phenomenon through the United Nations.  Today he continues to investigate and write about UFOs, corporate/government corruption, and falsified history for The Morningstar Report and his radio show. His substack site is: https://robertmorningstar.substack.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/exopolitics/support

The Navy center responsible for managing IT supporting intelligence operations has a critical responsibility to keep communications and data-sharing capabilities both reliable and secure. Commanding Officer Capt. Matt Cegelske for the center, called the Hopper Global Communications Center situated in the Office of Naval Intelligence, discusses at the Sea-Air-Space conference some of the unique cybersecurity challenges the center faces in the current threat environment and his plans for collaborating with industry to integrate modern tools to keep sensitive information safe. Follow more of our Sea-Air-Space coverage.

Retired Rear Admiral Mike Studeman is the former Commander of the Office of Naval Intelligence. He has extensive experience in intelligence, foreign policy, defense and China.  So, it wasn't a surprise when Taiwan's Vice President-Elect Hsiao – someone he had briefed along with President Tsai when he was the Navy's Indo-Pacom Director for Intelligence – invited him back to Taiwan, this time for a series of high-level visits. Studeman met with the chief of the general staff in Taiwan as well as the chief of the Navy.  He visited shipbuilding centers and met with leaders of think tanks and when we met up with him, he and his delegation had just returned from the Kinman Islands.  Those are the off-shore islands, just a few miles from the coast of China where there have been a series of confrontations as Chinese Coast Guards have flexed their ability to enter the restricted waters.

Robert Wilkie, Former Secretary of Veterans Affairs, joins Liberty & Justice with Matt Whitaker, Season 3, Episode 6.  Presented by American Cornerstone Institute.  Learn more about ACI at https://americancornerstone.org/. Watch every episode of Liberty & Justice on www.whitaker.tv. President Trump nominated the Honorable Robert Wilkie as the tenth Secretary of Veterans Affairs. He was confirmed by the United States Senate on July 23, 2018, and sworn in on July 30, 2018. Mr. Wilkie served as the acting Secretary of VA from March 28 to May 29, 2018.  Before confirmation as VA Secretary, Mr. Wilkie served Secretary James Mattis as his Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness—the principal advisor to the Secretary and Deputy Secretary of Defense for Total Force Management as it relates to readiness, National Guard and Reserve component affairs, health affairs, training, and personnel requirements and management, including equal opportunity, morale, welfare, recreation, and the quality of life for military families. The son of an Army artillery commander, Mr. Wilkie spent his youth at Fort Bragg. Today, he is a United States Air Force Reserve colonel assigned to the Office of the Chief of Staff. Before joining the Air Force, he served in the United States Navy Reserve with the Joint Forces Intelligence Command, Naval Special Warfare Group Two, and the Office of Naval Intelligence.Mr. Wilkie has more than 20 years of federal service at the national and international levels. During the George W. Bush Administration, Mr. Wilkie served both Donald Rumsfeld and Robert Gates as Assistant Secretary of Defense from 2005–2009, and he was the youngest senior leader in the Department. Mr. Wilkie was Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs and a National Security Council senior director under Dr. Condoleezza Rice. He also has extensive experience in the United States Congress, including recent service as Senior Advisor to Senator Thom Tillis and service as Counsel and Advisor on International Security Affairs to the Majority Leader of the United States Senate, the Honorable Trent Lott. Mr. Wilkie shepherded the Senate confirmation process for James Mattis, Robert Gates, and Admiral Mike Mullen (CJCS), and he was responsible for the preparation of General David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker for their multiple appearances before Congress in defense of the Iraqi Surge. Mr. Wilkie was Vice President for Strategic Programs for CH2M HILL, one of the world's largest engineering and program management firms, where for five years he held program management and advisory assignments as diverse as the London 2012 Summer Olympics and the reform and reorganization of the United Kingdom Ministry of Defense Supply and Logistics System (DE&S). Mr. Wilkie holds an Honors degree from Wake Forest University, a Juris Doctor from Loyola University College of Law in New Orleans, a Master of Laws in International and Comparative Law from Georgetown University, and a Masters in Strategic Studies from the United States Army War College. A graduate of the College of Naval Command and Staff, Air Command and Staff College, the United States Army War College, and the Joint Forces Staff College, Mr. Wilkie has published articles in the Naval War College Review, Parameters, Armed Forces Journal International, Air and Space Power Journal, and Proceedings. He holds personal and unit decorations and the Defense Distinguished Public Service Medal, the highest noncareer civilian award of the Department. Matthew G. Whitaker was acting Attorney General of the United States (2018-2019).  Before becoming acting Attorney General, Mr. Whitaker served as Chief of Staff to the Attorney General. He was appointed as the U.S. Attorney for the Southern Dist

ONI/NIS Special Agent John Dill wanted to travel the world and got his opportunity when he read an advertisement on the Wichita Police Department memo board looking for agents at the Office of Naval Intelligence. He took the job and from Chicago to Vietnam, the Philippines, Okinawa, and many other places he had an outstanding career. Such is the life of and NIS/NCIS Special Agent. I hope you enjoy this snapshot in history of the NCIS on this episode of NCIS: Reports from the Field. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lee-clements33/support

We're always talking about diversity and the importance of having different perspectives in the room where decisions are made in every organization. Asking questions others haven't thought of and offering a new way to look at a problem allows for a more informed decision to be made, no matter the issue. No one knows this better than Kristyn Shapiro, who has spent much of her career at the FBI as a senior executive and now at Guidehouse, helping organizations make tough decisions and guiding them through crises. Kristyn is here this week to talk about how her different perspective helped her have a strong presence in her career and so much more. This week's episode 96 of How Women Inspire Podcast is about thinking differently and providing your unique perspective in every situation!In this episode of How Women Inspire Podcast, Kristyn Shapiro is sharing the importance of recognizing that your perspective is different than those around you and actionable steps you can take right now to reach out and give others a voice. Kristyn Shapiro is an Associate Director of Defense and Security at Guidehouse, a leading global provider of consulting services to the public sector and commercial markets, with broad capabilities in management, technology, and risk consulting. She excels at bringing organizations from chaos to organization after spending 11 years with the FBI and six years with the Office of Naval Intelligence. Kristyn also thrives in environments where she can bring her outsider view to rethink how things have always been done.Some of the talking points Julie and Kristyn go over in this episode include:Are women better leaders during times of crisis?Challenging groupthink with your unique perspective.Advocating for others' voices and leaning into the way you think.Don't be afraid to ask questions, others might have the same questions and not speak up.Thank you for listening! If you enjoyed this episode, take a screenshot of the episode to post in your stories and tag me!  And don't forget to follow, rate, and review the podcast and tell me your key takeaways!Learn more about How Women Inspire at https://www.howwomenlead.com/podcast CONNECT WITH KRISTYN SHAPIRO:LinkedInGuidehouseCONNECT WITH JULIE CASTRO ABRAMS:LinkedIn - JulieHow Women LeadHow Women InvestHow Women GiveInstagram - HWLLinkedIn - HWLFacebook - HWL

Today, I'm joined by Dr. Claude Berube, and we're discussing the Leadership of Admiral Rickover. Claude wrote his doctoral dissertation on the Navy during Andrew Jackson's presidency, which became the book On Wide Seas. He has worked on political campaigns, as an analyst and team leader at the Office of Naval Intelligence, as a national security fellow in the U.S. Senate, and as a defense contractor for Naval Sea Systems Command and the Office of Naval Research. He is concluding nearly 20 years of teaching at the U.S. Naval Academy. He retired as a Commander from the US Navy Reserves, where he was an intelligence officer. His third novel, The Philippine Pact, came out earlier this year, and his fifth non-fiction book, Rickover Uncensored, is now available. I'm excited to have him on the show to talk about the life and leadership of Admiral Rickover, a man who had a tremendous impact on the U.S. submarine force. Show resources: Rickover Uncensored Dr. Claude Berube's author profile Sponsors: The Qualified Leadership Series Ignite Management Services Liberty Strength  ____ Get all of Jon Rennie's bestselling leadership books for 15% off the regular price today! HERE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Andrew For America presents the tenth installment of his supercut show, which is an artfully arranged assortment of clips that illustrate the status quo, the zeitgeist, the "spirit of the times" that we are living in here in the 21st century. This installment includes: the infamous "big club" meeting at Jekyll Island in 1910 involving the Rockefeller, Rothschild, and Morgan banking families, Joe Rogan says the Rothschild's own Antarctica, how Mossad may have been involved in the Kennedy assassination, Ron Paul on Osama Bin Laden, David Icke on the "agenda" and global media propaganda, Zeta Reticuli filmmaker says he was approached by Naval Intelligence with the "secrets of the universe," the FBI has Epstein's black book, Robert Kiyosaki says the American dollar crash is coming soon, Alexa says WW3 will begin on March 1, 2024 and that there will be no 2024 election because of the invoking of the War Powers Act, Biden will invoke War Powers Act in response to an alleged climate emergency, who created the "simulation" that we are allegedly living in, Richard Verner explains how the City of London and the Bank of England are not part of Great Britain, how the Queen of England is just a figurehead, and the true royal bloodlines that believe they have divine right have both Hebrew and Egyptian ancestors, how wokeism and feminism are being used to weaken the American population into accepting the transhumanist agenda, and how the implementation of world communism or "world democratic socialism" has been underway and happening for over a century now: from Woodrow Wilson and 1913 to the Great Depression, to the rise and fall of Hitler and Nazi Germany, to the creation of the United Nations, to the creation of the Soviet Union under FDR, the rise and fall of the Soviet Union, the Cold War, etc...all are part of the alleged "plan for the world." Andrew makes the case that what this "plan" is, is the creation of a world socialist democratic order, aka a "brave new Orwellian surveillance police state totalitarian dictatorship world order." Seek the truth...and the truth shall set you free. And my fellow Americans...you better do it quick. Because it's coming... Visit altmediaunited.com and check out all the awesome podcasts! Visit allegedlyrecords.com and check out all of the amazing punk rock artists! Visit soundcloud.com/andrewforamerica1984 to check out Andrew's music! Like and Follow The Politics & Punk Rock Podcast PLAYLIST on Spotify!!! Check it out here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1Y4rumioeqvHfaUgRnRxsy... politicsandpunkrockpodcast.com https://linktr.ee/andrewforamerica --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/andrew-foramerica/support

Evan Bevins and Mark Radulich present our Comic Stripped 2 Guns Comparison and Review!2 Guns is a 2013 American buddy cop action comedy film directed by Baltasar Kormákur and starring Denzel Washington and Mark Wahlberg. It is based on the comic book series of the same name created by Steven Grant and Mateus Santolouco, published in 2007 by Boom! Studios. The film was released in the United States on August 2, 2013, and was met with mixed reviews from critics.Steven Grant (born October 22, 1953) is an American comic book writer best known for his 1985–1986 Marvel Comics mini-series The Punisher with artist Mike Zeck and for his creator-owned character Whisper.This pulp story about cops and thieves and the men that are something in between will have you scrambling to keep up with the twists and turns. Trench has targeted a local bank to rob, and asked Steadman in on the job. Trench figures it's a great way to score -- considering it's a cover for mob money. They'll be thieves ripping off thieves. But what Steadman doesn't know is that Trench is a DEA agent. And what Trench doesn't know is that Steadman's a Naval Intelligence officer. They're both undercover cops! And neither one knows that they're not robbing the mob -- they've been set up to steal $50 million from the CIA! Collecting the entire series that inspired the feature film, this light-hearted crime romp from comics legend, Steven Grant, is back and better than ever!Disclaimer: The following may contain offensive language, adult humor, and/or content that some viewers may find offensive – The views and opinions expressed by any one speaker does not explicitly or necessarily reflect or represent those of Mark Radulich or W2M Network.Mark Radulich and his wacky podcast on all the things:https://linktr.ee/markkind76alsoFB Messenger: Mark Radulich LCSWTiktok: @markradulichtwitter: @MarkRadulich

Here we are, already discussing the fourth Honorverse anthology entitled The Service of the Sword. This collection of six short stories written by six authors was originally published in April 2003 by Baen. While we'll call them “short” stories, two of them are novella-length (or arguably longer), so if you haven't read this collection yet, be aware that a couple of these stories are lengthy. The book is long, and since we're talking about six stories, this summary is longer than usual too.The first story in this anthology is Promised Land by Jane Lindskold, an author we're already familiar with. This key story within the Honorverse introduces us to the Grayson character trapped on Masada named Judith. Along with several other ladies, she's a part of a separatist group seeking to escape their oppressive culture. As they execute their plan they come into contact with Michael Winton, Crown Prince and Midshipman, on his “Snotty” cruise onboard the HMS Intransigent. The ship is on an official visit to Masada and takes place back when Manticore was weighing the pros and cons to an alliance with either Grayson or Masada. The events in this story helped inform Manticore's decision, especially as Michael, and the crew he's a member of, ultimately come to the aid of Judith and her friends. The story's important because we'll see more of Judith in the future.Your hosts all gave this one a “thumbs-up”.Next came the story With One Stone by Timothy Zahn. We join our favorite heroine Honor Harrington, now a captain in the RMN, and the captain of the Heavy Cruiser HMS Fearless very shortly after the events in On Basilisk Station. The story returns us to her work to address the problem of apparent piracy as ships are being attached in Silesian space. Another old “friend,” Sonja Hemphill is also involved in the effort since it seems some sort of advanced weapon is being used in these attacks. Due to apparent similarities to Hemphill's past project called a “grav lance,” she and the Office of Naval Intelligence are also involved. We watch events unfold that ultimately expose the real power behind the attacks with this new weapon: the People's Republic of Haven. We also get to see a young Rafe Cardones continue his early growth as a Naval officer as he's detailed away from Honor's crew and onto another vessel conducting intelligence operations related to the same problem.This one received three more “thumbs-up” from your hosts!The third story is A Ship Named Francis, written by John Ringo and Victor Mitchell. Our authors took a very different approach to the Honorverse in that it was essentially an outlandish story that brought a bit of comic relief to what has really been what we'll call serious story telling so far. In this short story, we follow the adventures of a medic (Sick Bay Attendant) Sean Tyler and see the adventures onboard the Grayson Space Navy's Heavy Cruiser, Francis Mueller. Nothing is quite right about this crew. Antics and follies occur as we're introduced to a whole host of unbelievable and larger than life characters who do their best to do everything badly. You may or may not be amused, but regardless you'll go on an adventure with this story!Your hosts represented all the possible votes on this one, with a thumbs up, a neutral vote and a thumbs down. (Be sure to let us know what you think after you read it.)The next story was Let's Go to Prague, by John Ringo. This one is a solo effort by Mr. Ringo, who co-authored the previous story. While this one has comedic moments and whit, with some similarities in the writing style and “feel”, this is truly its own story and not just more zany adventures in the spirit of the last one. Here we join two Manticoran...

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Today Pastor Stan shares with us how China is preparing to Attack America and he will also be teaching on Nephilim Giants. China’s fighter jets are carrying out dry runs for a major invasion and satellite images show an increased activity at nuclear test sites in Russia, China and in the U.S. Naval Intelligence also revealed that China is building Naval Ships 232 times faster than the U.S. “to invade North America”. 00:00 - Miss the Mark 02:52 - China’s Fighter Jet Run for Major Invasion 04:55 - Nuclear Test Sites 07:14 - China Prepare for Invasion 09:14 - The Fallen Ones 13:51 - The Seven Thunders 17:04 - The Giants 21:20 - Super Soldiers 25:34 - Joseph’s Kitchen

Today Pastor Stan shares with us how China is preparing to Attack America and he will also be teaching on Nephilim Giants. China’s fighter jets are carrying out dry runs for a major invasion and satellite images show an increased activity at nuclear test sites in Russia, China and in the U.S. Naval Intelligence also revealed that China is building Naval Ships 232 times faster than the U.S. “to invade North America”. 00:00 - Miss the Mark 02:52 - China’s Fighter Jet Run for Major Invasion 04:55 - Nuclear Test Sites 07:14 - China Prepare for Invasion 09:14 - The Fallen Ones 13:51 - The Seven Thunders 17:04 - The Giants 21:20 - Super Soldiers 25:34 - Joseph’s Kitchen

In this episode of "The President's Daily Brief": We start in Delaware, where Hunter Biden faces unprecedented charges, marking the first time a sitting president's child has been indicted by the Justice Department. This explosive development comes after a collapsed plea deal and could severely impact President Biden's 2024 reelection campaign. We take you inside the closed doors of the U.S. Senate, where top tech execs rally behind government regulations on Artificial Intelligence. Plus, a significant attack in occupied Crimea should allay the fears of Space X's Elon Musk. In the Back of the Brief, a leaked U.S. Naval Intelligence report that reveals China's alarming naval expansion rate, now outpacing U.S. production. Please remember to subscribe if you enjoyed this episode of the President's Daily Brief.     Email: PDB@TheFirstTV.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Many people think that because China's Navy is relatively untested that it's nothing to worry about. However, that's not necessarily the case. China's weapons have been getting better, it's experience on the sea is growing each day, and it's training is getting more sophisticated. In this episode of China Unscripted, we discuss China's maritime buildup, it's conflict with the Philippines over a rusty old ship moored on a shoal, and why China might want to go to war sooner rather than later. Joining us in this episode is Captain Jim Fanell, the former director of intelligence and information operations for the U.S. Pacific Fleet and senior intelligence officer for China at the Office of Naval Intelligence.

By Jared Samuelson Longtime friend and supporter of the podcast, Dr. Claude Berube, returns to discuss his latest work of fiction, The Philippine Pact, the latest entry in the Connor Stark novel series. Claude has taught at the United States Naval Academy, worked at the Office of Naval Intelligence and the U.S. Senate, and as … Continue reading Sea Control 451 – The Philippine Pact with Dr. Claude Berube →

Since May 2022, Congress has held three hearings looking into Unidentified Aerial Phenomena and the possibility of non-human intelligent life flying aircraft on Earth. In this episode, hear testimony from three Defense Department officials and three credible whistleblowers, whose testimony is often as contradictory as it is shocking. Please Support Congressional Dish – Quick Links Contribute monthly or a lump sum via Support Congressional Dish via (donations per episode) Send Zelle payments to: Donation@congressionaldish.com Send Venmo payments to: @Jennifer-Briney Send Cash App payments to: $CongressionalDish or Donation@congressionaldish.com Use your bank's online bill pay function to mail contributions to: Please make checks payable to Congressional Dish Thank you for supporting truly independent media! Background Sources Whistleblower Protections Clayton E. Wire. 2020. Ogborn Mihm LLP. Security Classifications Security Classification of Information, Volume 2. Principles for Classification of Information. Arvin S. Quist. Oak Ridge National Laboratory: 1993. UAP Background Brian Entin. June 6, 2023. NewsNation. Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal. June 5, 2023. The Debrief. May 16, 2021. 60 Minutes. Ralph Blumenthal. December 18, 2017. The New York Times. Helene Cooper et al. December 16, 2017. The New York Times. Independent Research and Development National Defense Industrial Association. SCIFs Derek Hawkins et al. April 26, 2023. The Washington Post. Kirkpatrick Response Letter D. Dean Johnson (@ddeanjohnson). Twitter. Audio Sources July 26, 2023 House Committee on Oversight and Accountability, Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs Witnesses: , Former Commanding Officer, United States Navy Ryan Graves, Executive Director, Americans for Safe Aerospace David Grusch, Former National Reconnaissance Office Representative, Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force, Department of Defense Clips timestamps reflect C-SPAN video 4:30 Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI): The National Defense Authorization Act of 2022 established the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office or AARO to conduct or to coordinate efforts across the Department of Defense and other federal agencies to detect, identify and investigate UAPs. However, AARO's budget remains classified, prohibiting meaningful oversight from Congress. 19:50 Rep. Robert Garcia (D-CA): We know the Senate is taking up an amendment to their defense authorization bill which will create a commission with broad declassification authority and we should all agree that that is an important step. 27:40 Ryan Graves: Excessive classification practices keep crucial information hidden. Since 2021, all UAP videos are classified as secret or above. This level of secrecy not only impedes our understanding, but fuels speculation and mistrust. 27:55 Ryan Graves: In 2014, I was an F-18 Foxtrot pilot in the Navy fighter attack Squadron 11, the Red Rippers, and I was stationed at NAS Oceana in Virginia Beach. After upgrades were made to our jet's radar systems, we began detecting unknown objects operating in our airspace. At first, we assumed they were radar errors. But soon we began to correlate the radar tracks with multiple onboard sensors, including infrared systems, and eventually through visual ID. During a training mission in Warning Area W-72, 10 miles off the coast of Virginia Beach. Two F/A-18F Super Hornets were split by a UAP. The object, described as a dark gray or a black cube inside of a clear sphere, came within 50 feet of the lead aircraft and was estimated to be five to 15 feet in diameter. The mission commander terminated the flight immediately and returned to base. Our squadron submitted a safety report, but there was no official acknowledgement of the incident and no further mechanism to report the sightings. Soon these encounters became so frequent that aircrew would discuss the risk of UAP as part of their regular pre-flight briefs. 29:00 Ryan Graves: Recognising the need for action and answers, I founded Americans for Safe Aerospace. The organization has since become a haven for UAP witnesses who were previously unspoken due to the absence of a safe intake process. More than 30 witnesses have come forward and almost 5000 Americans have joined us in the fight for transparency at safeaerospace.org 29:20 Ryan Graves: The majority of witnesses are commercial pilots at major airlines. Often, they are veterans with decades of flying experience. Pilots are reporting UAP at altitudes that appear above them at 40,000 feet potentially in low Earth orbit or in the gray zone below the Karman Line, making unexplainable maneuvers like right hand turns and retrograde orbits or J hooks. Sometimes these reports are reoccurring with numerous recent sightings north of y and in the North Atlantic. Other veterans are also coming forward to us regarding UAP encounters in our airspace and oceans. The most compelling involve observations of UAP by multiple witnesses and sensor systems. I believe these accounts are only scratching the surface and more will share their experiences once it is safe to do so. 31:30 David Grusch: I became a whistleblower through a PPD 19 urgent concern filing in May 2022 with the intelligence community Inspector General following concerning reports from multiple esteemed and credentialed current and former military and intelligence community individuals that the US government is operating with secrecy above congressional oversight with regards to UAPs. My testimony is based on information I've been given by individuals with a long standing track record of legitimacy and service to this country, many of whom also have shared compelling evidence in the form of photography, official documentation, and classified oral testimony to myself and my various colleagues. I have taken every step I can to corroborate this evidence over a period of four years while I was with the UAP Task Force and do my due diligence on the individual sharing it. Because of these steps. I believe strongly in the importance of bringing this information before you. 33:30 David Grusch: In 2019, the UAP Task Force director asked me to identify all Special Access Programs and Controlled Access Programs, also known as SAPS and CAPS. We needed to satisfy our congressionally mandated mission and we were direct report at the time to the [Deputy Secretary of Defense]. At the time, due to my extensive executive level intelligence support duties, I was cleared to literally all relevant compartments and in a position of extreme trust both in my military and civilian capacities. I was informed in the course of my official duties of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program to which I was denied access to those additional read-ons when I requested it. I made the decision based on the data I collected to report this information to my superiors and multiple Inspectors General and, in effect, becoming a whistleblower. 35:20 Cmdr. David Fravor: We were attached to carrier 11, stationed onboard USS Nimitz and began a two month workup cycle off the coast of California. On this day, we were scheduled for a two v two air-to-air training with the USS Princeton as our control. When we launched off Nimitz, my wingman was joining out, we were told that the training was going to be suspended and we're going to proceed with real world tasking. As we proceeded to the West, the air controller was counting down the range to an object that we were going to and we were unaware of what we're going to see when we arrived. There, the controller told us that these objects had been observed for over two weeks coming down from over 80,000 feet, rapidly descending to 20,000 feet, hanging out for hours and then going straight back up. For those who don't realize, above 80,000 feet is space. We arrived at the location at approximately 20,000 feet and the controller called the merge plot, which means that our radar blip was now in the same resolution cell as a contact. As we looked around, we noticed that we saw some whitewater off our right side. It's important to note the weather on this day was as close to perfect as you could ask for off the coast of San Diego: clear skies, light winds, calm seas, no white caps from waves. So the whitewater stood out in a large blue ocean. All four of us, because we were in an F/A-18F F, so we had pilots and WSO in the backseat, looked down and saw a white tic tac object with a longitudinal axis pointing north-south and moving very abruptly over the water, like a ping pong ball. There were no rotors, no rotor wash, or any sign of visible control surfaces like wings. As we started clockwise towards the object, my WSO I decided to go down and take a closer look with the other aircraft staying in high cover to observe both us and the tic tac. We proceeded around the circle about 90 degrees from the start of our descent, and the object suddenly shifted its longitudinal axis, aligned it with my aircraft and began to climb. We continued down another 270 degrees, and we went nose low to where the tic tac would have been. Our altitude at this point is about 15,000 feet and the tic tac was about 12,000. As we pulled nose-on to the object within about a half mile of it, it rapidly accelerated in front of us and disappeared. Our wingmen, roughly 8000 feet above us, lost contact also. We immediately turned back to see where the whitewater was at and it was gone also. So as you started to turn back towards the east the controller came up and said "Sir you're not going to believe this but that thing is that your cat point roughly 60 miles away in less than a minute." You can calculate the speed. We returned to Nimitz. We were taking off our gear, we were talking to one of my crews that was getting ready to launch, we mentioned it to them and they went out and luckily got the video that you see, that 90 second video. What you don't see is the radar tape that was never released, and we don't know where it's at. 37:55 Cmdr. David Fravor: What is shocking to us is that the incident was never investigated. None of my crew ever questioned and tapes were never taken and after a couple days it turned into a great story with friends. It wasn't until 2009 until J. Stratton had contacted me to investigate. Unbeknownst to all, he was part of the AATIP program at the Pentagon led by Lue Elizondo. There was an unofficial official report that came out it's now in the internet. Years later, I was contacted by the other pilot Alex Dietrich and asked if I'd been contacted and I said "No, but I'm willing to talk." I was contacted by Mr. Elizondo, and we talked for a short period of time, he said we'd be in contact. A few weeks after that I was made aware that Lue had left the Pentagon in protest and joined forces with Tom DeLonge and Chris Mellon, Steve Justice, and others to form To the Stars Academy, an organization that pressed the issue with leading industry experts and US government officials. They worked with Leslie Kean, who is present today, Ralph Blumenthal, and Helene Cooper to publish the articles in the New York Times in 2017. It removed the stigma on the topic of UFOs, which is why we're here today. Those articles opened the door for the government and public that cannot be closed. It has led to an interest from our elected officials, who are not focused on Little Green Men, but figuring out where these craft are, where they are from, the technology they possess, how do they operate. It also led to the Whistleblower Protection Act in the NDAA. 39:45 Cmdr. David Fravor: In closing, I would like to say that the tic tac object we engaged in 2004 was far superior to anything that we had on time, have today, or are looking to develop in the next 10 years. If we, in fact, have programs that possess this technology and needs to have oversight from those people, that the citizens of this great country elected in office to represent what is best for the United States and best for the citizens. I thank you for your time. 40:20 Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI): Are your pilots, or pilots that you interact with as part of your organization, do you feel adequately trained and briefed on how to handle encounters with UAPs? Ryan Graves: No. Right now, military witnesses to UAP have limited options for reporting UAP. But more more concerning is that the commercial aviation sector has not adapted to the lessons that the military has implemented. The military and Department of Defense have stated that UAP represent a critical aviation safety risk. We have not seen that same language being used in the commercial markets, they are not acknowledging this. 41:05 Ryan Graves: Right now we need a system where pilots can report without fear of losing their jobs. There's a fear that the stigma associated with this topic is going to lead to professional repercussions either through management or perhaps through their yearly physical check. So having a secure system, reducing the stigma, and making this information available through the public is going to reduce the concerns that aircrew have. 41:30 Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI): Can you just give me a little idea the degree to which reports in the past are not made public right now? Ryan Graves: Well, I don't think there has been a proper reporting system to gather those reports and thus not report them. So to answer your question, I think there is a dearth of data due to the fact that the reporting has been limited up to this time. 41:45 Ryan Graves: There's certainly some national security concerns when we use our advanced sensors and our tactical jets to be able to identify these objects. However, there's no reason that the objects themselves would be classified. I would be curious to see how the security classification guideline actually spells out the different nuances of how this topic is classified from the perspective of UAP, not national security. 43:00 Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI): Mr. Fravor, the tic tac incident that you were engaged [in] occurred in 2004. What kind of reporting took place after that incident? Ryan Graves: None. We had a standard debrief where the back-seaters went down to our carrier intel center and briefed what had happened, and that was it. No one else talked to us. And I was in the top 20 in the battle group, no one came that the Captain was aware, the of Admiral was aware, nothing was done. Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI): Did your commanding officers provide any sort of justification? Ryan Graves: No, because I was the commanding officer of the quadron. So no. Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI): Was this incident the only UAP event that you encountered while you were a pilot? Ryan Graves: Yes, it was. 43:50 Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI): Do you believe UAPs pose a potential threat to our national security? Ryan Graves: Yes, and here's why: the technology that we faced was far superior than anything that we had, and you could put that anywhere. If you had one, you captured one, you reverse engineered it, you got it to work, you're talking something that can go into space, go someplace, dropped down in a matter of seconds, do whatever it wants and leave. And there's nothing we can do about it. Nothing. 44:20 Ryan Graves: I would also like to add from a commercial aviation and military aviation perspective, we deal with uncertainty in our operating space as a matter of our professional actions. Identifying friend from foe is very important to us. And so when we have identified targets and we continue to ignore those due to a stigma or fear of what it could be, that's an opening that our adversaries can take advantage of. 44:55 Ryan Graves: There needs to be a location where this information is centralized for processing and there needs to be a two-way communication loop so the operators on the front end have feedback and can get best practices on how to process information, what to do, and to ensure that their reporting is being listened to. Right now there is not a lot of back and forth. 46:25 Ryan Graves: When we were first experiencing these objects off the eastern seaboard in the 2014 to 2015 time period, anyone that had upgraded their radar systems were seeing these objects. So there was a large number of my colleagues that were detecting these objects off the eastern seaboard. They were further correlating that information with the other onboard sensors. And many of them also had their own eyesightings, as well, of these objects. Now, that was our personal, firsthand experience at the time. Since then, as I've engaged this topic, others have reached out to me to share their experiences both on the military side as well as the commercial aviation side. On the military aviation side, veterans that have recently got out have shared their stories and have expressed how the objects we are seeing in 2014 and 2015 continued all the way to 2019, 2020, and beyond. And so it became a generational issue for naval aviators on the Eastern Seaboard. This was something we were briefing to new students. This is something that was included in the notice to airmen to ensure that there was no accidents. And now with commercial aviators, they are reaching out because they're having somewhat similar experiences as our military brothers and sisters, but they do not have any reporting system that they can send this to. 47:55 Cmdr. David Fravor: It's actually, it's a travesty that we don't have a system to correlate this and actually investigate. You know, so if you took the east coast, there's coastal radars out there that monitor our air defense identification zone. Out to 200 miles, they can track these. So when you see them, they could actually go and pull that data and get maneuvering. And instead of just having the airplanes, there's other data sources out there. And I've talked to other government officials on this. You need a centrally located repository that these reports go to. So if you just stuck it in DOD, you wouldn't get anything out of the Intelligence Committee because they have a tendency not to talk. But if you had a central location where these reports are coming in, not just military, but also commercial aviation, because there's a lot of that going on, especially if you talk to anyone that flies from here to Hawaii, over the Pacific they see odd lights. So I think you need to develop something that allows you a central point to collect the data in order to investigate. 51:20 Rep. Robert Garcia (D-CA): Mr. Grusch, finally, do you believe that our government is in possession of UAPs? David Grusch: Absolutely, based on interviewing over 40 witnesses over four years. Rep. Robert Garcia (D-CA): And where? David Grusch: I know the exact locations and those locations were provided to the Inspector General, and some of which to the intelligence committees, I actually had the people with the firsthand knowledge provide a protected disclosure to the Inspector General 52:15 Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Mr. Graves. Again, I'd like to know, how do you know that these were not our aircraft? Ryan Graves: Some of the behaviors that we saw in a working area. We would see these objects being at 0.0 Mach, that's zero airspeed over certain pieces of the ground. So what that means, just like a river, if you throw a bobber in, it's gonna float downstream. These objects were staying completely stationary in category four hurricane winds. The same objects would then accelerate to supersonic speeds 1.1-1.2 Mach, and they would do so in very erratic and quick behaviors that we don't -- I don't -- have an explanation for. 55:50 Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Mr. Fravor, do you believe that you witnessed an additional object under the water in relation to your encounter? Cmdr. David Fravor: I will say we did not see an object. There was something there to cause the whitewater and when we turned around, it was gone. So there was something there that obviously moved. Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Okay, it was not the same object, though, that you were looking at, correct? Cmdr. David Fravor: No, we actually joked that the tic tac was communicating with something when we came back, because the whitewater disappeared. 56:15 Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): We were, in another instance, told about the capabilities of jamming when there were some people chasing some of these objects. Did you experience any of that jamming, or interrupting your radar or weapon system? Cmdr. David Fravor: My crew that launched, after we landed, experienced significant jamming to the APG 73 radar, which was what we had on board, which is a mechanically scan, very high end system, prior to APG 79. And yes, it did pretty much everything you could do range, velocity, aspect, and then it hit the lock and the targeting pod is passive. That's when we're able to get the video on. Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): I'm about to run out of time, but are you aware of any of our enemies that have that capability? Cmdr. David Fravor: No, no. 57:40 Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD): You've identified these as taking place on the East Coast. Is it just on the East Coast where these encounters have been reported? Ryan Graves: No. Since the events initially occurred, I've learned that the objects have been detected, essentially where all Navy operations are being conducted across the world. And that's from the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office reporting. 58:50 Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD): Are there common characteristics to the UAPs that have been sighted by different pilots? And can you describe what the convergence of descriptions is? Ryan Graves: Certainly. We were primarily seeing dark gray or black cubes inside of a clear sphere. Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD): I'm sorry, dark gray or black cubes? Ryan Graves: Yes, inside of a clear sphere where the apex or tips of the cube were touching the inside of that sphere. And that was primarily what was being reported when we were able to gain a visual tally of these objects. That occurred over almost eight years, and as far as I know, is still occurring. 59:45 Ryan Graves: I think we need both transparency and the reporting. We have the reporting, but we need to make sure that information can be propagated to commercial aviation as well as the rest of the populace. 1:05:00 Ryan Graves: In the 2003 timeframe, a large group of Boeing contractors were operating near one of the launch facilities at Vandenberg Air Force Base when they observed a very large, 100-yard-sided red square approach the base from the ocean and hover at low altitude over one of the launch facilities. This object remained for about 45 seconds or so before darting off over the mountains. There was a similar event within 24 hours later in the evening. This was a morning event, I believe, 8:45 in the morning. Later in the evening, post sunset, there were reports of other sightings on base including some aggressive behaviors. These objects were approaching some of the security guards at rapid speeds before darting off, and this is information that was received through one of the witnesses that have approached me at Americans for Safe Aerospace. 1:06:15 Ryan Graves: I have not seen what they've described. This object was estimated to be almost the size of a football field, and I have not seen anything personally that large. 1:07:05 Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL): With the FAA, to your understanding, pilots that are seeing this, commercial airline pilots, are they receiving cease and desist letters from corporations for coming forward with information in regards to safety for potential air airline passengers? Ryan Graves: I have been made privy to conversations with commercial aviators who have received cease and desist orders. Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL): So the American public should know that corporations are putting their own reputations ahead of the safety of the American people. Would you agree with that statement? Ryan Graves: It appears so. 1:08:15 Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-FL): So what about G forces? Let's talk about G forces in those vehicles. Could a human survive those G forces with known technology today? Cmdr. David Fravor: No, not for the acceleration rates that we observed. 1:08:45 Cmdr. David Fravor: So we got within a half mile of the tic tac, which people say that's pretty far, but in airplanes that's actually relatively close. Now it was perfectly white, smooth, no windows, although when we did take the original FLIR video that is out there, when you put it on a big screen it actually had two little objects that came out of the bottom of it. But other than that, no windows, no seams, no nothing. 1:09:05 Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-FL): Mr. Grusch, as a result of your previous government work have you met with people with direct knowledge or have direct knowledge yourself of non-human origin craft? David Grusch: Yes, I personally interviewed those individuals. 1:09:40 Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-FL): Do you have knowledge or do you have reason to believe that there are programs in the advanced tech space that are unsanctioned? David Grusch: Yes, I do. Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-FL): Okay. And when you say that they're above congressional oversight, what do you mean? David Grusch: Complicated question. So there's some, I would call it abuse here. So congressional oversight of conventional Special Special Access Programs, and I'll use Title X, so DOD, as an example. So 10 US Code section 119 discusses congressional oversight of SAPS, discusses the Deputy Secretary of Defense's ability to waive congressional reporting. However, the Gang of Eight is at least supposed to be notified if a waived or waived bigoted unacknowledged SAP is created. That's Public Law. Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-FL): I don't want to cut you off, but how does a program like that get funded? David Grusch: I will give you generalities. I can get very specific in a closed session, but misappropriation of funds. Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-FL): Does that mean that there is money in the budget that is set to go to a program but it doesn't and it goes to something else? David Grusch: Yes, have specific knowledge of that. Yep. Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-FL): Do you think US corporations are overcharging for certain tech they're selling to the US government and that additional money is going to programs? David Grusch: Correct, through something called IRAD. 1:12:45 Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-VA): Mr. Grusch, in your sworn testimony you state that the United States government has retrieved supposedly extraterrestrial spacecraft and other UAP related artifacts. You go so far as to state that the US is in possession of "non human spacecraft" and that some of these artifacts have circulated with defense contractors. Several other former military and intelligence officials have come forward with similar allegations albeit in non-public setting. However, Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, the Director of AARO, previously testified before Congress that there has been and I quote, "no credible evidence" thus far of extraterrestrial act activity or "off world technology" brought to the attention of the office. To your knowledge, is that statement correct? David Grusch: It's not accurate. I believe Dr. Kirkpatrick mentioned he had about 30 individuals that have come to AARO thus far. A few of those individuals have also come to AARO that I also interviewed and I know what they provided Dr. Kirkpatrick and their team. I was able to evaluate -- Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-VA): Okay, I need to go on. David Grusch: Sure. 1:21:25 Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Has the US government become aware of actual evidence of extraterrestrial or otherwise unexplained forms of intelligence? And if so, when do you think this first occurred? David Grusch: I like to use the term non-human, I don't like to denote origin, it keeps the aperture open scientifically. Certainly, like I've just discussed publicly, previously, the 1930s. 1:21:45 Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Okay, can you give me the names and titles of the people with direct, first-hand knowledge and access to some of these crash retrieval programs and maybe which facilities, military bases that the recovered material would be in? And I know a lot of Congress talked about, we're gonna go to area 51. And, you know, there's nothing there anymore anyway, it's just you know, we move like a glacier. And as soon as we announce it, I'm sure the moving vans would pull up, but please. David Grusch: I can't discuss that publicly. But I did provide that information both to the Intel committees and the Inspector General. Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): And we could get that in the SCIF, if we were allowed to get in a SCIF with you? Would that be probably what you would think? David Grusch: Sure, if you had the appropriate accesses, yeah. 1:22:30 Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): What Special Access Programs cover this information? And how is it possible that they have evaded oversight for so long? David Grusch: I do know the names, once again, I can't discuss that publicly. And how they've evaded oversight in a closed setting I could tell you this specific tradecraft used. Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Alright. 1:22:50 Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): When did you think those programs began and who authorized them? David Grusch: I do know a lot of that information, but that's something I can't discuss publicly because of sensitivities Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Alright. 1:24:05 Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Title 10 and title 50 authorization, they seem to say they're inefficient. So who gets to decide this, in your opinion, in the past? David Grusch: It's a group of career senior executive officials. Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Okay. Are they government officials? David Grusch: Both in and out of government and that's about as far I'll go there. Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Well, that leads to my next question, which private corporations are directly involved in this program? How much taxpayer money has been invested in these programs? David Grusch: Yeah, I don't know the specific metrics towards the end of your question. The specific corporations I did provide to the committees in specific divisions, and I spent 11 and a half hours with both Intel committees. 1:25:30 Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Has there been an active US government disinformation campaign to deny the existence of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena? And if so, why? David Grusch: I can't go beyond what I've already exposed publicly about that. Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Okay, I've been told to ask you what that is and how to get it in the record. Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL): What have you stated publicly in your interviews, for the Congressional Record? David Grusch: If you reference my NewsNation interview, I talk about a multi-decade campaign to disenfranchise public interest basically. 1:28:00 Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY): When it comes to notification that you had mentioned about IRAD programs, we have seen defense contractors abuse their contracts before through this committee. I have seen it personally, and I have also seen the notification requirements to Congress abused. I am wondering, one of the loopholes that we see in the law is that there is, at least from my vantage point, depending on what we're seeing, is that there are no actual definitions or requirements for notification, are there? What methods of notification did you observe? When they say they notified Congress, how did they do that? Do you have insight into that? David Grusch: For certain IRAD activities....I can only think of ones conventional in nature. Sometimes they flow through certain out of say SAP programs that have cognisant authority over the Air Force or something. And those are congressionally reported compartments, but IRAD is literally internal to the contractor. So as long as it's money, either profits, private investment, etc, they can do whatever they want. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY): To put a finer point on it, when there is a requirement for any agency or company to notify Congress, do they contact the chairman of a committee, do they get them on the phone specifically, is this through an email to hypothetically a dead email box? David Grusch: A lot of it comes through what they call the PPR, Periodic Program Review process. If it's a SAP or Controlled Access Program equity, and then those go to the specific committees. 1:30:40 Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY): For the record, if you were me, where would you look? Titles, programs, departments, regions? If you could just name anything. And I put that as an open question to the three of you. David Grusch: I'd be happy to give you that in a closed environment. I can tell you specifically. 1:35:40 Cmdr. David Fravor: Things are over-classified. I know for a fact the video or the pictures that came out in the 2020 report that had the stuff off the east coast, they were taken with an iPhone, off the east coast. A buddy of mine was one of the senior people there and he said they originally classified a TSS CI, and my question to him was what's TSS CI about these? They're an iPhone, right, literally off the vacates, that's not TSS CI. So they're over classified, and as soon as they do that, they go into the vault, and then you all have to look for them. 1:37:20 Rep. Eric Burlison (R-MO): Has any of the activity been aggressive, been hostile in your reports? David Grusch: I know of multiple colleagues of mine that got physically injured. Rep. Eric Burlison (R-MO): By UAPs, or by people within the federal government? So there has been activity by alien or non-human technology and or beings that has caused harm to humans? David Grusch: I can't get into the specifics in an open environment, but at least the activity that I personally witnessed, and I have to be very careful here, because they tell you never to acknowledge tradecraft, right. So what I personally witnessed, myself and my wife, was very disturbing. 1:38:20 Rep. Eric Burlison (R-MO): You've said that the US has intact spacecraft. You said that the government has alien bodies or alien species. Have you seen the spacecraft? David Grusch: I have to be careful to describe what I've seen firsthand and not in this environment. But I could answer that question behind closed doors. Rep. Eric Burlison (R-MO): Have you seen any of the bodies? David Grusch: That's something I've not witnessed myself. 1:40:45 Rep. Eric Burlison (R-MO): These aircraft, have they been identified that they are being produced by domestic military contractors? Is there any evidence that that's what's being recovered? David Grusch: Not to my knowledge. Plus the recoveries predate a lot of our advanced programs. 1:48:05 David Grusch: I've actually never seen anything personal, believe it or not. 1:51:00 Rep. Nancy Mace (R-SC): If you believe we have crashed craft, stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft? David Grusch: As I've stated publicly already in my NewsNation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries. 1:51:15 Rep. Nancy Mace (R-SC): Were they human or non human biologics? David Grusch: Non human and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program I talked to that are currently still on the program. Rep. Nancy Mace (R-SC): And was this documentary evidence video, photos, eyewitness like how would that be determined? David Grusch: The specific documentation, I would have to talk to you in a SCIF about that. 1:53:10 Rep. Nick Langworthy (R-NY): Commander Fravor, we've all seen the floating tic tac video that you engage with on November 14, 2004. Can you briefly talk about why you were off the coast of San Diego that day? Cmdr. David Fravor: Yeah, we were at a work up with all the battle groups. So we integrate the ships with the carrier, the airway with the carrier and we start working. So we were doing an air-to-air defense to hone not only our skills, but those of the USS Princeton, and when they had been tracking him for two weeks. The problem was, there were never manned aircraft airborne when they were tracking them. And this was the first day and unfortunately, we were the ones airborne and went and saw it. Rep. Nick Langworthy (R-NY): Do you remember the weather that day? It was a cloudy or windy or anything out of the ordinary on the Pacific coast. Cmdr. David Fravor: If you're familiar with San Diego, it was a perfect day. Light winds, no whitecaps, clear skies, not a cloud. For flying, it was the best. Rep. Nick Langworthy (R-NY): Now, is it true that you saw, in your words, a 40 foot flying tic tac shaped object? Cmdr. David Fravor: That's correct. Or for some people that can't know what a Tic Tac is, it's a giant flying propane tank. Rep. Nick Langworthy (R-NY): Did this object come up on radar or interfere with your radar or the USS Princeton? Cmdr. David Fravor: The Princeton tracked it, the Nimitz tracked it, the E2 tracked it. We never saw it on our radars, our fire control radars never picked it up. The other airplane that took the video did get it on a radar as soon as it tried to lock in to jam the radar, spit the lock and he's rapidly switched over to the targeting pod which you can do in the F/A 18 Rep. Nick Langworthy (R-NY): From what you saw that day and what you've seen on video. Did you see any source of propulsion from the flying object including on any potential thermal scans from your aircraft? Cmdr. David Fravor: No, there is none. There is no IR plume coming out. And Chad who took the video went through all the EO, which is black and white TV and the IR modes, and there's no visible signs of reflection. It's just sitting in space at 20,000 feet. Rep. Nick Langworthy (R-NY): In your career. Have you ever seen a propulsion system that creates no thermal exhaust? Cmdr. David Fravor: No. Rep. Nick Langworthy (R-NY): Can you describe how the aircraft maneuvered? Cmdr. David Fravor: Abruptly, very determinant. It knew exactly what it was doing. It was aware of our presence. And it had acceleration rates, I mean, it went from zero to matching our speed and no time at all. Rep. Nick Langworthy (R-NY): Now if the fastest plane on Earth was trained to do these maneuvers that you saw, would it be capable of doing that? Cmdr. David Fravor: No, not even close Rep. Nick Langworthy (R-NY): Just to confirm, this object had no wings, correct? Cmdr. David Fravor: No wings. Rep. Nick Langworthy (R-NY): Now the aircraft that you were flying, was it armed? Cmdr. David Fravor: No, never felt threatened at all. Rep. Nick Langworthy (R-NY): If the aircraft was armed, do you believe that your aircraft or any aircraft in possession of the United States could have shot the tic tac down? Cmdr. David Fravor: I'd say no. Just on the performance, it would have just left in a split second. 1:58:10 Rep. Andy Ogles (R-TN): Is there any indication that these UAPs could be essentially collecting reconnaissance information? Mr. Graves? Ryan Graves: Yes. Rep. Andy Ogles (R-TN): Mr. Grusch? David Grusch: Fair assessment. Rep. Andy Ogles (R-TN): Mr. Fravor? Cmdr. David Fravor: Very possible. 1:59:05 Rep. Andy Ogles (R-TN): Mr. Graves and Fravor, in the event that your encounters had become hostile, would you have had the capability to defend yourself, your crew, your aircraft? Ryan Graves: Absolutely not. Cmdr. David Fravor: No. 2:00:55 Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): I might have asked this before, but I want to make sure. Do you have any personal knowledge of someone who's possibly been injured working on legacy UAP reverse engineering? David Grusch: Yes. Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Okay. How were they injured? Was it something like a radioactive type situation or something we didn't understand? I've heard people talk about Havana syndrome type incidences. What what was your recollection of that? David Grusch: I can't get into specifics, but you could imagine assessing an unknown unknown, there's a lot of potentialities you can't fully prepare for. 2:02:10 Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Are you aware of any individuals that are participating in reverse engineering programs for non terrestrial craft? David Grusch: Personally, yes. Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN): Do you know any that would be willing to testify if there were protections for them? David Grusch: Certainly closed door, and assurances that breaking their NDA, they're not going to get administratively punished. 2:03:45 Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL): Referring to your news nation interview, you had referenced specific treaties between governments. Article III of the nuclear arms treaty with Russia identifies UAPs. It specifically mentions them. To your knowledge. Are there safety measures in place with foreign governments or other superpowers to avoid an escalatory situation in the event that a UAP malevolent event occurs? David Grusch: Yeah, you're referring to an actual public treaty in the UN register. It's funny you mentioned that, the agreement on measures to reduce the risk of outbreak of a nuclear war signed in 1971, unclassified treaty publicly available. And if you cite the George Washington University national security archives, you will find the declassified, in 2013, specific provisions in this specific Red Line Flass message traffic with the specific codes pursuant to Article Three and also situation two, which is in the the previously classified NSA archive. What I would recommend and I tried to get access, but I got a wall of silence at the White House, was the specific incidents when those message traffic was used, I think some scholarship on that would open the door to a further investigation using those publicly available information. 2:05:20 David Grusch: I have concerns, based on the interviews I conducted under my official duties, of potential violations of the Federal Acquisition Regulations, the FAR. 2:06:10 Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD): What was your general attitude or perspective on the UFO discussion before that happened? Cmdr. David Fravor: I never felt that we were alone with all the planets out there. But I wasn't a UFO person. I wasn't, I wasn't watching History Channel and MUFON and all that. Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD): And have you had any experiences or encounters since that happened? Cmdr. David Fravor: No. Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD): And so, have you formed any general conclusions about what you think you experienced then? Cmdr. David Fravor: Yes, I think what we experienced was, like I said, well beyond the material science and the capabilities that we had at the time, that we have currently, or that we're going to have in the next 10 to 20 years. 2:06:55 Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD): You've been able to answer in great detail on certain questions, and then other things you say you're not able to respond to. Can you just explain where you're drawing the line? What's the basis for that? David Grusch: Yeah, based on my DOPSR security review and what they've determined that is unclassified. Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD): I see, so you're answering any questions that just call upon your knowledge of unclassified questions, but anything that relates to classified matters you're not commenting on in this context? David Grusch: In an open session, but happy to participate in a closed session at the right level. 2:08:15 Ryan Graves: Certainly I think the most vivid sighting of that would have been near mid air that we had at the entrance to our working area. One of these objects was completely stationary at the exact entrance to our working areas, not only geographically but also at altitude. So it was right where all the jets are going, essentially, on the Eastern Seaboard. The two aircraft flew within about 50 feet of the object and that was a very close visual sighting. Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD): And you were in one of the aircraft. Ryan Graves: I was not. I was there when the pilot landed. He canceled the mission after. I was there. He was in the ready room with all his gear on with his mouth open. And I asked him what the problem was and he said he almost hit one of those darn things. Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD): He said he was 50 feet away from it? Ryan Graves: Yes, sir. Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD): And his description of the object was consistent with the description you gave us before? Ryan Graves: A dark gray or black cube inside of a clear sphere. Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD): Inside of a clear sphere. With no self evident propulsion system. Ryan Graves:: No wings, no IR energy coming off of the vehicle, nothing tethering it to the ground. And that was primarily what we're experiencing out there. April 19, 2023 Senate Committee on Armed Services Witnesses: , Director, All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office Clips 2:00:50 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick: The AARO team of more than three dozen experts is organized around four functional areas: operations, scientific research, integrated analysis, and strategic communications. 2:01:25 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick: Consistent with legislative direction, AARO is also carefully reviewing and researching the US government's UAP-related historical record. 2:02:05 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick: AARO is the culmination of decades of DOD, intelligence community, and congressionally directed efforts to successfully resolve UAP encountered first and foremost by US military personnel, specifically navy and air force pilots. 2:03:15 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick: However, it would be naive to believe that the resolution of all UAP can be solely accomplished by the DOD and IC alone. We will need to prioritize collection and leverage authorities for monitoring all domains within the continental United States. AARO's ultimate success will require partnerships with the inner agency, industry partners, academia and the scientific community, as well as the public. 2:04:15 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick: I want to underscore today that only a very small percentage of UAP reports display signatures that could reasonably be described as anomalous. The majority of unidentified objects reported to AARO demonstrate mundane characteristics of balloons, unmanned aerial systems, clutter, natural phenomena, or other readily explainable sources. While a large number of cases in our holdings remain technically unresolved, this is primarily due to a lack of data associated with those cases. Without sufficient data, we are unable to reach defendable conclusions that meet the high scientific standards we set for resolution, and I will not close a case that I cannot defend the conclusions of. 2:06:00 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick: AARO is a member of the department's support to the administration's Tiger Team effort to deal with stratospheric objects such as the PRC high altitude balloon. When previously unknown objects are successfully identified, it is AARO's role to quickly and efficiently hand off such readily explainable objects to the intelligence, law enforcement, or operational safety communities for further analysis and appropriate action. In other words, AARO's mission is to turn UAP into SEP, Somebody Else's Problem. 2:07:30 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick: I should also state clearly for the record that in our research, AARO has found no credible evidence thus far of extraterrestrial activity, offworld technology, or objects that defy the known laws of physics. In the event sufficient scientific data were ever obtained that a UAP encountered can only be explained by extraterrestrial origin, we are committed to working with our interagency partners at NASA to appropriately inform [the] U.S. government's leadership of its findings. For those few cases that have leaked to the public previously and subsequently commented on by the US government, I encourage those who hold alternative theories or views to submit your research to credible peer reviewed scientific journals. AARO is working very hard to do the same. That is how science works, not by blog or social media. 2:13:20 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick: How are we going to get more data? We are working with the joint staff to issue guidance to all the services and commands that will then establish what are the reporting requirements, the timeliness, and all of the data that is required to be delivered to us and retained from all of the associated sensors. That historically hasn't been the case and it's been happenstance that data has been collected. 2:17:20 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick: As of this week we are tracking over a total of 650 cases. 2:17:45 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick: Let me walk everyone through what our analytic process looks like. We have essentially a five step process. We get our cases in with all the data, we create a case for that event. My team does a preliminary scrub of all of those cases as they come in, just to sort out, do we have any information that says this is in one of those likely categories? It's likely a balloon, it's likely a bird, it's likely some other object, or we don't know. Then we prioritize those based off of where they are. Are they attached to a national security area? Does it show some anomalous phenomenology that is of interest? If it's just a spherical thing that's floating around with the wind and it has no payload on it, that's going to be less important than something that has a payload on it, which will be less important than something that's maneuvering. So there's sort of a hierarchy of just binning the priorities, because we can't do all of them at once. Once we do that and we prioritize them, we take that package of data in that case and I have set up two teams, think of this as a Red Team Blue Team, or competitive analysis. I have an intelligence community team made up of intelligence analysts and I have an S&T team made up of scientists and engineers, and the people that actually build a lot of these sensors are physicists, because you know, if you're a physicist, you can do anything. But they're not associated with the intel community, they're not intel officers. So they they look at this through the lens of the sensor, of what the data says. We give that package to both teams. The intelligence community is going to look at it through the lens of the intelligence record, and what they assess, and their intel tradecraft, which they have very specific rules and regulations on how they do that. The scientific community, the technical community is going to look at it through the lens of "What is the data telling me? What is the sensor doing? What would I expect a sensor response to be?" and back that out. Those two groups give us their answers. We then adjudicate. If they agree, then I am more likely to close that case, if they agree on what it is. If they disagree, we will have an adjudication. We'll bring them together, we'll take a look at the differences, we'll adjudicate. Why do you say one thing and you say another? We will then come to a case recommendation that will get written up by my team. That then goes to a Senior Technical Advisory Group, which is outside of all of those people, made up of senior technical folks and intel analysts and operators retired out of the community. And they essentially peer review what that case recommendation is. They write their recommendations, that comes back to me, I review it, we make a determination, and I'll sign off one way or the other, and then that will go out as the case determination. Once we have an approved web portal to hang the unclassified stuff, we will downgrade and declassify things and put it out there. In the meantime, we're putting a lot of these on our classified web portal where we can then collaborate with the rest of the community so they can see what's going on. In a nutshell, that is the process. 2:27:10 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick: There are emerging capabilities out there that in many instances, Russia and China, China in particular, are on par or ahead of us in some areas. So previously, I used to be the Defense Department's intelligence officer for science and technical intelligence. That was our job to look for, what does all that look like? And then my last several years of course, in Space Command, doing space. The adversary is not waiting. They are advancing and they're advancing quickly. If I were to put on some of my old hats, I would tell you, they are less risk averse at technical advancement than we are. They are just willing to try things and see if it works. Are there capabilities that could be employed against us in both an ISR and a weapons fashion? Absolutely. Do I have evidence that they're doing it in these cases? No, but I have concerning indicators. 2:43:45 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick: So the vision is, at one point, at some point in the future, you should not need an AARO. If I'm successful in what I'm doing, we should be able to normalize everything that we're doing into existing processes, functions, agencies and organizations, and make that part of their mission and their role. Right now the niche that we form is really going after the unknowns. I think you articulated it early on, this is a hunt mission for what might somebody be doing in our backyard that we don't know about? That is what we are doing, but at some point, we should be able to normalize that. That's why it's so important the work we're doing with joint staff to normalize that into DoD policy and guidance. We are bringing in all of our interagency partners. So NASA is providing a liaison for us, I have FBI liaison, I have OSI liaison, I have service liaisons, half of my staff come from the [Intelligence Community], half of my staff come from other scientific and technical backgrounds, I have DOE. So what we're trying to do is ensure, again, as I make UAP into SEP they get handed off to the people that that is their mission to go do, so that we aren't duplicating that. I'm not going to go chase the Chinese high altitude balloon, for example. That's not my job. It's not an unknown, and it's not anomalous anymore. Now it goes over to them. May 17, 2022 House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Subcommittee on Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation Witnesses: , Deputy Director, Office of Naval Intelligence , Under Secretary of Defense Intelligence and Security, Department of Defense Clips 10:00 Ronald Moultrie: The NDAA for fiscal year 2022 has helped us to establish a dedicated office to oversee processes and procedures for the timely collection, processing, analysis, and reporting of UAP related data. 10:15 Ronald Moultrie: What are UAP? Put simply, UAP are airborne objects that, when encountered, cannot be immediately identified. 10:25 Ronald Moultrie: It is the department's contention that by combining appropriately structured, collected data with rigorous scientific analysis, any object that we encounter can likely be isolated, characterized, identified and if necessary, mitigated. 10:40 Ronald Moultrie: We know that our service members have encountered unidentified aerial phenomenon. And because UAPs pose potential flight safety and general security risks, we are committed to a focused effort to determine their origins. Our effort will include the thorough examination of adversarial platforms and potential breakthrough technologies, US government or commercial platforms, Allied or partner systems, and other natural phenomena. 11:15 Ronald Moultrie: We also understand that there has been a cultural stigma surrounding UAP. Our goal is to eliminate the stigma by fully incorporating our operators and mission personnel into a standardized data gathering process. We believe that making UAP reporting a mission imperative will be instrumental to the effort's success. 11:45 Ronald Moultrie: To optimize the department's UAP work, we are establishing an office within the Office of the Secretary of Defense. That office's function is clear: to facilitate the identification of previously unknown or unidentified airborne objects in a methodical, logical, and standardized manner. 13:50 Scott Bray: Since the early 2000s, we have seen an increasing number of unauthorized and or unidentified aircraft or objects in military controlled training areas and training ranges and other designated airspace. Reports of sightings are frequent and continuing. We attribute this increase in reporting to a number of factors, including our work to destigmatize reporting, an increase in the number of new systems such as quad copters and unmanned aerial systems that are in our airspace, identification of what we can classify as clutter (mylar balloons and other types of of air trash), and improvements in the capabilities of our various sensors to detect things in our airspace. 14:50 Scott Bray: The basic issues, then and now, are twofold. First, incursions in our training ranges by unidentified objects represent serious hazards to safety of flight. In every aspect of naval aviation, safety of our air crews is paramount. Second, intrusions by unknown aircraft or objects pose potential threats to the security of our operations. Our aviators train as they would fight, so any intrusions that may compromise the security of our operations by revealing our capabilities, our tactics, techniques or procedures are of great concern to the Navy and Department of Defense. 16:40 Scott Bray: The direct result of those efforts has been increased reporting with increased opportunities to focus a number of sensors on any objects. The message is now clear: if you see something, you need to report it. And the message has been received. 18:55 Scott Bray: As detailed in the ODNI report, if and when individual UAP incidents are resolved, they likely fall into one of five potential explanatory categories: airborne clutter, natural atmospheric phenomena, US government or US industry developmental programs, foreign adversary systems, or another bin that allows for a holding bin of difficult cases, and for the possibility of surprise and potential scientific discovery. 22:20 Scott Bray: If UAP do indeed represent a potential threat to our security then the capabilities, systems, processes and sources we use to observe, record, study, or analyze these phenomena need to be classified at appropriate levels. We do not want, we do not want potential adversaries to know exactly what we're able to see or understand or how we come to the conclusions we make. Therefore, public disclosures must be carefully considered on a case by case basis. 23:35 Rep André Carson (D-IN): This is the third version of this task force and, to be frank, one of Congress's concerns is that the executive branch, in administrations of both parties, has been sweeping concerns about UAPs under the rug by focusing on events that can be explained and avoiding events that cannot be explained. What can you say to give the American people confidence that you aren't just focusing our attention on low hanging fruit with easy explanations? Ronald Moultrie: Congressman, I'll start and then Mr. Bray, please feel free to weigh in. So the way that we're approaching it is with a more thorough, standardized methodology than what we have in the past. First and foremost, the Secretary Defense is chartering this effort, this is not someone lower in the Department of Defense, and he is assigned that task to the Office of Secretary of Defense's Under Secretary for Intelligence Security, that's me, because I'm responsible for looking at intelligence matters, I'm responsible for security matters, and this is potentially both. So we're concerning ourselves with the safety of our personnel, the safety of our installations and bases. There's no other higher power than what we have in actually getting after this. And as you have stated, we have been assigned that task to actually stand up an office, the AOIMSG, which I believe the name server will likely change, but we have moved forward in terms of moving to establish that office. We have, as of this week, picked the director for that effort, a very established and accomplished individual. 42:00 Scott Bray: I would say that we're not aware of any adversary that can move an object without discernible means of propulsion. The question then becomes, in many of these cases where we don't have a discernible means of propulsion in the data that we have, in some cases, there are likely sensor artifacts that that may be hiding some of that, there's certainly some degree of something that looks like signature management that we have seen from some of these UAP. But I would caution, I would simply say that there are a number of other events in which we do not have an explanation. There are a small handful in which there are flight characteristics or signature management that we can't explain with the data that we have. 43:40 Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA): With respect to the second two videos showing the small triangles, the hypothesis is that those are commercial drones that because of the use of night vision goggles appear like triangles, is that the operating assessment? Scott Bray: Some type of drone, some type of unmanned aerial system, and it is simply that that light source resolves itself through the night vision goggles onto the SLR camera as a triangle. 47:55 Scott Bray: Allies have seen these, China has established its own version of the UAP task force. So clearly a number of countries have observations of things in the airspace that they can identify. Rep. Brad Wenstrup (R-OH): And do we share data with some, with all? Are they sharing with us? Scott Bray: We share data with some and some share data with us. Rep. Brad Wenstrup (R-OH): But not necessarily all that have publicly reported something? Scott Bray: That's correct. 52:25 Scott Bray: When I say we can't explain, I mean, exactly as you describe there, that there's a lot of information, like the video that we showed, in which there's simply too little data to create a reasonable explanation. There are a small handful of cases in which we have more data that our analysis simply hasn't been able to fully pull together a picture of what happened. Those are the cases where we talked about where we see some indications of flight characteristics or signature management that are not what we had expected. When it comes to material that we have, we have no material. We have detected no emanations within the UAP task force that would suggest it's anything non-terrestrial in origin. 59:35 Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-IL): There have been no collisions between any US assets and one of these UAPs, correct? Scott Bray: We have not had a collision, we've had at least 11 near misses though. 59:55 Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-IL): And there's been no attempt, there's no communications, or any kind of communication signals that emanate from those objects that we've detected, correct? Scott Bray: That's correct. Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-IL): And have we attempted to communicate with those objects? Scott Bray: No. Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-IL): So we don't we don't even put out an alert saying, you know, "U.S., identify yourself, you are within our flight path," or something like that? Scott Bray: We haven't said anything like that. We've not put anything out like that, generally speaking. For example, in the video that we showed earlier, it appears to be something that is unmanned, appears to be something that may or may not be in controlled flight, and so we've not attempted any communication with that. 1:00:55 Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-IL): And I assume we've never discharged any armaments against a UAP, correct? Scott Bray: That's correct. 1:01:05 Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-IL): How about wreckage? Have we come across any wreckage of any kind of object that has now been examined by you? Scott Bray: The UAP task force doesn't have any wreckage that isn't explainable, that isn't consistent with being of terrestrial origin. 1:01:20 Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-IL): Do we have any sensors underwater to detect on submerged UAPs, anything that is in the ocean or in the seas? Ronald Moultrie: So I think that would be more properly addressed in a closed session. 1:05:30 Ronald Moultrie: So one of the concerns that we have is that there are a lot of individuals and groups that are putting information out there that that could be considered to be somewhat self serving. We're trying to do what's in the best interests of, one, the Department of Defense, and then two, what's in the best interest of the public, to ensure that we can put factually based information back into the mainstream and back into the bloodstream of the reporting media that we have, so people understand what's there. It's important because we are attempting, as this hearing has drawn out to understand, one, what may just be natural phenomenon, two, what may be sensor phenomenology or things that were happening with sensors, three, what may be legitimate counterintelligence threats to places that we have or bases or installations, or security threats to our platforms. And anything that diverts us off of what we have with the resources that have been allocated to us, sends us off in the spurious chases and hunts that are just not helpful. They also contribute to the undermining of the confidence that the Congress and the American people have that we are trying to get to the root cause of what's happening here, report on that, and then feed that back into our national security apparatus so we are able to protect the American people and our allies. So it is harmful, it is hurtful, but hopefully, if we get more information out there, w

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